Flagrant - Andrew Schulz & Akaash Singh - Pregnant and Paid
Aired: 2020-01-17
Duration: 10:44


=== Maternity Leave in the WNBA (10:19) ===

[00:00:04]  What's up, everybody?
[00:00:05]  Patreon.
[00:00:06]  Let's get right into it.
[00:00:08]  So these WNBA chicks get paternity leave.
[00:00:11]  I mean, maternity leave.
[00:00:12]  Well, some of them.
[00:00:12]  Debatable.
[00:00:16]  So, so the new collective bargaining agreement came out.
[00:00:19]  Akash hasn't heard this, so I'm excited.
[00:00:22]  I'm excited to hear it.
[00:00:23]  They raised the price for them, which is great.
[00:00:24]  If you're making the money, you deserve the money.
[00:00:26]  That's awesome.
[00:00:27]  And one of the things that they put in the new CBA was that they get maternity leave, paid maternity leave.
[00:00:35]  And I don't know why this shit kind of struck me because my first reaction was, it's not like an injury.
[00:00:45]  Like, you don't choose to rupture your Achilles.
[00:00:47]  You choose to have a baby.
[00:00:49]  Why is the team on the hook for that?
[00:00:51]  Right.
[00:00:51]  And I was like, that's absurd.
[00:00:52]  You shouldn't get that.
[00:00:53]  And then I started thinking, wait a minute.
[00:00:55]  Why not?
[00:00:56]  How is this not like any other job?
[00:00:59]  And then I started thinking, how the fuck these women get paid to have babies?
[00:01:05]  That's insane.
[00:01:06]  So now you got a problem with maternity leave in general.
[00:01:08]  Yeah, you went the other way with it?
[00:01:10]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:01:10]  Yeah.
[00:01:11]  Like, it's an absurd.
[00:01:12]  You think the first woman that came to work was like, yo, I'm going to have a baby, but like, I'm going to still need that check every week.
[00:01:19]  Yeah.
[00:01:20]  That's mafia shit.
[00:01:21]  Yeah, they should get that.
[00:01:23]  All right.
[00:01:24]  Let's argue.
[00:01:25]  I know that's that is the right thing to say.
[00:01:27]  Can I also bring a logical thing into this?
[00:01:29]  Because I know I'm talking to men.
[00:01:32]  There's a place for logic if we're talking to men.
[00:01:34]  Right.
[00:01:35]  If a girl gets paternity leave or maternity leave, I'm still getting benefit most of the time because then that's our money.
[00:01:42]  So like, go ahead, bitch, get us some money and not work.
[00:01:45]  You know what I mean?
[00:01:46]  Like, or be a stay-at-home wife and make money.
[00:01:49]  Yeah.
[00:01:50]  I'm not knocking that.
[00:01:51]  I'm thinking as the employer.
[00:01:53]  Oh, yeah.
[00:01:54]  That's why these hoes ain't getting hired.
[00:01:56]  That's the thing.
[00:01:57]  You've been saying that for years.
[00:01:59]  But here's a problem with the WNBA in that situation.
[00:02:03]  You don't got a choice.
[00:02:05]  So now you're just going to hire the dude lesbians and not going to carry the kid?
[00:02:09]  Yo, you know what's going to be interesting?
[00:02:11]  The lesbians that carried a strap.
[00:02:13]  Now, you know what's going to be interesting?
[00:02:16]  Strap lesbians only.
[00:02:17]  Where's my young MA?
[00:02:18]  She ain't carrying kids.
[00:02:20]  But I've seen them, though.
[00:02:22]  What do you mean?
[00:02:22]  I've seen like the butch lesbians like carrying like kids.
[00:02:25]  Now that look crazy.
[00:02:26]  It looks crazy, but I've seen it.
[00:02:28]  Like I've seen like the fucking, you know what I mean?
[00:02:30]  Like you know what I mean?
[00:02:33]  Brad and Bride picture where like one of them's pregnant.
[00:02:36]  And usually you would think, oh, this is clearly the pregnant one and it wasn't.
[00:02:41]  Hey, Sam, they failed.
[00:02:42]  Your whole mission is to be a dude.
[00:02:44]  You failed in the most fucking possible, the most way possible.
[00:02:48]  You know, it's crazy.
[00:02:49]  Before technology, what'd you say?
[00:02:51]  I said the most way possible.
[00:02:52]  What the fuck is that?
[00:02:54]  Before this technology shit, if I was an owner of a WNBA team and I was like, hold up, one of these girls get pregnant.
[00:03:02]  I mean, that's why I'm taking that then.
[00:03:05]  Right?
[00:03:05]  Like, of course.
[00:03:06]  But now the fact that you could do it with in vitro or whatever like that, they could get pregnant.
[00:03:10]  I just, I am.
[00:03:13]  It's, why does it seem odd?
[00:03:14]  Somebody, all right, make the argument for me why if a woman wants to get pregnant, she should still be getting paid.
[00:03:19]  I didn't say lose her job.
[00:03:20]  I 100% believe that she should keep her job, but single moms.
[00:03:26]  Say again?
[00:03:26]  Single moms.
[00:03:27]  What about her?
[00:03:28]  They have to pay bills.
[00:03:29]  Yeah.
[00:03:29]  Well, how are you a single mom if it and get pregnant?
[00:03:32]  You don't like irresponsibility.
[00:03:35]  Have you ever seen a black household?
[00:03:36]  Yeah, I'm like, I was raised by a single mom, bro.
[00:03:40]  Like, it happens a lot, though.
[00:03:41]  Like, you're going to need that money.
[00:03:42]  Like, you're going to.
[00:03:43]  Raised by a single mom, though, to be fair, raised by a single mom is not while she was pregnant.
[00:03:48]  Was she pregnant single with you?
[00:03:49]  Doesn't matter.
[00:03:50]  No, no, no, but maternity leave only matters when you're pregnant.
[00:03:53]  She's not getting extra pay because she's a single mom raising you.
[00:03:55]  And the whole purpose of the maternity leave wouldn't apply here is all I'm saying.
[00:03:58]  Now, I actually find this all hilarious because all these fucking stupid feminists are like championing it.
[00:04:05]  But imagine your favorite WNBA player gets pregnant and now has to sit out the season and your team is fucked.
[00:04:10]  Now, I don't think this will be a problem because there are no WNBA fans.
[00:04:15]  Imagine if there was one, how fucking livid you would be at this.
[00:04:19]  Candace Parker, fantasy players would be losing their shit.
[00:04:22]  Candace Parker had an amazing season.
[00:04:25]  She's a fairly popular player.
[00:04:27]  She had to sit out the season because she had to have a baby.
[00:04:29]  She's pregnant.
[00:04:30]  That's how you take out your rival team.
[00:04:32]  You just send them a hot dude.
[00:04:34]  All right?
[00:04:35]  None of that bitch.
[00:04:38]  But seriously, break down the argument for me.
[00:04:41]  I think it's just a nice thing to do because what the fuck is she going to do otherwise?
[00:04:44]  She cannot work.
[00:04:45]  But she's choosing to have the kid.
[00:04:47]  It's her choice.
[00:04:47]  It's a good thing.
[00:04:48]  But if you want a society where people have kids, but let me, it's not as.
[00:04:53]  Concern a career.
[00:04:54]  Sports are four, five, six years.
[00:04:57]  You're not playing sports.
[00:04:57]  Soul scores not a career.
[00:04:58]  This guy is wild.
[00:05:00]  That's what's not a career.
[00:05:01]  I don't think that argument.
[00:05:02]  I don't think that argument applies, though.
[00:05:05]  What is the average here?
[00:05:06]  You can look this up.
[00:05:07]  What is the average length of a WNBA person's career, the average length of a football career, or average length of a basketball career?
[00:05:13]  There's still careers.
[00:05:14]  It doesn't matter how long you do them.
[00:05:15]  By career, I mean lifelong.
[00:05:16]  And if it's during the time, like the pre, the peak women get pregnant years, like you got to have it.
[00:05:23]  Now, I can't wait till I retire and then have a fucking down baby.
[00:05:26]  Come on, yo.
[00:05:27]  But you're going to be retired by 30.
[00:05:29]  You're not going to be hooping at 30.
[00:05:30]  No, a lot of these women.
[00:05:31]  I'm sure these hoes is hoping at 30.
[00:05:33]  WNBA, like, they have like a lot of...
[00:05:34]  What are they going to lose their athleticism?
[00:05:37]  I mean, honestly, yeah, like they only play three-month seasons.
[00:05:40]  A lot of these people don't want to go overseas anymore.
[00:05:42]  Like, they probably chill and do, you know, stateside shit.
[00:05:45]  Like, yeah, you can play well into your business.
[00:05:47]  If you want to have a kid, you should just keep getting paid.
[00:05:51]  Yes, why not?
[00:05:52]  Because it's usually two people want to have a kid.
[00:05:53]  A man usually wants to have a kid, too.
[00:05:55]  Yeah, like it's not.
[00:05:56]  I mean, it's an interesting discussion and people just get so triggered by it usually, but it does make an interesting situation.
[00:06:03]  Got to be carrying the baby, yo.
[00:06:05]  You can't just be a woman in a lesbian relationship.
[00:06:07]  Your girl carrying a baby and you off.
[00:06:10]  Son, I'm not going to lie.
[00:06:11]  If Alex told me that he needed nine months off.
[00:06:15]  Nigga, I'm taking paternity leave, son.
[00:06:17]  You're going to leave?
[00:06:19]  No, it's not.
[00:06:20]  You don't get nine months.
[00:06:22]  Oh, you can get a long.
[00:06:24]  Son, do you not know how it is in Europe?
[00:06:27]  You got to pay the motherfucker for a year in somebody's company.
[00:06:29]  Oh, that's Europe.
[00:06:30]  I'm talking about America.
[00:06:31]  America, they get like two months.
[00:06:32]  White girls from Europe.
[00:06:34]  My girl took months off.
[00:06:36]  Months off.
[00:06:38]  And they're legally supposed to give her that.
[00:06:41]  I think she could take up to like eight to maybe even 12 months off as long as she needs to be with that kid.
[00:06:46]  Taking months off is different than getting paid and having months off.
[00:06:49]  There are places in Europe.
[00:06:50]  Son, that is wild.
[00:06:52]  Yeah, that's a little wild.
[00:06:53]  That's a little wild.
[00:06:54]  No, I mean, like, that's a long time.
[00:06:56]  Lawyer, you're going to see it different.
[00:06:58]  I mean, I'm not an employer, but at the same time, once you have a kid or like see somebody attempt to have a kid, you're going to see it different.
[00:07:04]  Cause it's like, there's shit that.
[00:07:06]  I don't think his point is morality.
[00:07:08]  I think his point is if you're hiring somebody knowing at some point they need a year off and I'm just going to have to figure that shit out and pay them.
[00:07:14]  Physically it's an awful lot of people.
[00:07:15]  The point is put morality aside.
[00:07:18]  Put whether or not they deserve it aside.
[00:07:20]  The point is if you are making a hiring decision as a boss, take ethics out of it.
[00:07:24]  You are just looking at me being productive and how much money this is going to cost me as a business.
[00:07:28]  If I hire a woman and I know at some point she's going to get pregnant.
[00:07:31]  If I hire a woman who just got married.
[00:07:33]  Ring on her finger.
[00:07:34]  Fresh.
[00:07:35]  And I had, yo, she's going to take maternity leave.
[00:07:38]  So I'm going to lose all her production.
[00:07:39]  I still got to pay her.
[00:07:40]  Then I got to find, hire, and retrain and pay a new person to fill that position.
[00:07:45]  If I have a female applicant and a male applicant and I don't have to give him leave, who am I more likely to hire?
[00:07:51]  No, I'm not saying that.
[00:07:53]  I'm not saying you're wrong.
[00:07:54]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:07:55]  The WNA has been around for 20 years.
[00:07:57]  They just got this.
[00:07:58]  No, no, no, no.
[00:07:59]  I'm sure they've been fighting for it.
[00:08:00]  I don't think you're listening.
[00:08:01]  I hear what you're saying.
[00:08:02]  I really don't think you're listening.
[00:08:03]  I hear what you're saying.
[00:08:04]  If I'm an employer, I'm pretty sure the WNBA hire offers back for a while.
[00:08:10]  Hold on first of all, we can't call the WNBA business.
[00:08:13]  That's a charitable organization.
[00:08:15]  I'm tired of calling you an owner of a fucking WNBA team.
[00:08:19]  You don't own a business.
[00:08:20]  You own a goddamn tax write-off.
[00:08:22]  That's what you own.
[00:08:23]  So the March of Dimes.
[00:08:24]  Yo, but not dimes.
[00:08:26]  They're nickels.
[00:08:28]  Oh, Lincoln penny ass bitches.
[00:08:32]  The point is essentially that maternity leave in a lot of ways hurts women.
[00:08:38]  I have a friend of mine, I won't say her name because I got to obviously protect her, but she's an HR.
[00:08:43]  Hired this woman, got pregnant, had to keep paying her as she left.
[00:08:48]  Had to hire someone else.
[00:08:50]  She's going in that hiring process going, if I hire another girl, this exact same thing could happen.
[00:08:58]  I'm going to hire the dude.
[00:09:00]  So now you see a situation where something that was supposed to benefit women and help women actually hurts women.
[00:09:08]  I have another friend, sweetheart.
[00:09:10]  She's going to come by the studio, I think, next week.
[00:09:12]  Love her.
[00:09:13]  Got a job, got pregnant a month in from the job or something absurd.
[00:09:20]  Took the full maternity during the job, gives birth, quits the job.
[00:09:29]  Yo, G shit, though.
[00:09:31]  Now, it's G shit because we look in at bosses like the oppressors and us as the oppressor.
[00:09:35]  My sister did the same thing.
[00:09:36]  Your sister did the same shit.
[00:09:38]  They do this.
[00:09:39]  Like, while she was out on maternity leave, she was just like interviewing for new jobs.
[00:09:45]  And it makes it easy because you're off, so you can go to all these interviews and shit like that.
[00:09:49]  So it's like, my bad sister.
[00:09:51]  Yo, but it's one of those things where you look at it and you're like, you look at the situation and you're like, how do I take, how do I protect women in the workforce?
[00:10:00]  This actually hurts women in the workforce.
[00:10:02]  People want to talk about how there's no female CEOs.
[00:10:04]  You think I'm going to hire someone who's going to run my company who could at any point in time take a year off?
[00:10:12]  That's an almost crazy situation.
[00:10:15]  The only way you do that, if that girl was way more qualified than a man, right?
[00:10:21]  For example, think about it.

=== Social Justice Warriors Ruin Fun (00:20) ===

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