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	This is what happens, Donnie.
	This is what happens when you piss off the Wignats.
	Kind of kidding there, fam, but regardless, we'll dig into that and much more here.
	Welcome, everyone, to episode 68, the full house, D-Live episode 2, I guess.
	We are the world's most politically cynical show for white fathers, aspiring ones, and the whole bio fam, and all of our friends tuning in on D-Live.
	I am your Vince McMahon, meme level two, maybe meme level three looking host, Coach Finstock, back with another hour or two of election pre-mortem analysis.
	It ain't over yet, but the body's starting to get cold.
	Before we meet tonight's birth panel, though, big thanks to the audience following us on D Live and to all of those who joined us for a marathon, four and a half hour extravaganza on election night just two nights ago.
	This is crazy.
	This has turning into like real work.
	You know, we've been doing a show once a week for a year, year and a half now, and now we're doing two in two days.
	And it feels good, to be honest, not to hear our own voices, but to add value for you guys in a timely way instead of just doing these set pieces once per week.
	So thanks to everybody who donated to us on Tuesday night.
	And if you feel like throwing us some lemons or some ice creams, JO will slowly but surely come to figure out what all of the D Live currencies are worth.
	Yeah, it was a little hectic, but tonight we have fewer guests on, and we are just going to focus on the election in the first hour.
	And we'll see if we can cover everything that we need to before we possibly move on to our comfier, more fatherhood and paternal focused second half.
	Also, we're going to try to give a little more love to the Peanut Gallery, the Lemon Gallery this show, this stream.
	So if you have comments or questions, I'm going to be looking at that more than in our chat thing to see what you guys are saying.
	Top of the show.
	For about the past year, we've been giving thanks to our supporters right up at the top.
	And this is going to be no different.
	I'm also giving people a little bit of time to tune in here.
	But Big John, people listened to our show a week ago.
	Big John gave us kind of a nasty gram as I characterized it on YouTube, on our YouTube comments, and said that we did the audience a big disservice by not calling out the issue of older women being a problem for all the fertility problems that a lot of our guys report and that everybody should go get young wives.
	And I called him out on it, but we parsed it regardless.
	And Big John, I guess it wasn't quite such a nasty gram.
	He gave us a generous donation.
	So thank you, buddy.
	Appreciate it.
	And that goes to show you engage with your audience respectfully, even if they seem hostile.
	Sometimes it pays out.
	Big John, don't stop giving now.
	Also, big thanks to Durandle, sort of Roland, continues to support the show.
	Durandle, if you're hearing us, I think you're busy right now, but we'd love to have you back on or on for the first time.
	Sunshine sent us some shekels.
	And I also wanted to thank our fan Polydoros, who is setting up a Telegram channel that is just going to have every full house from episode one to episode 68 all there.
	Quick, easy download for those of you who don't like going to LibSyn or anything like that.
	So that's enough of me.
	Let's get on to the birth panel.
	First up, Sam might cry, but Mr. Producer, because of all the hard work, he's coming back on the mic and he's moving up on the intro slots.
	MP, welcome back.
	Welcome back on Mike.
	And how the hell are you?
	I'm great.
	I'm getting a little bit hungover with this election, but I'm also loving all the chaos.
	So I'm good.
	I'm raring to go, dude.
	Yeah, Christmas morning every morning this week, or I don't know, Halloween or something.
	Yeah.
	I actually did go back and listen to most of the live stream out of curiosity, not naple gazing.
	It sounded great, great production.
	And yeah, the one thing I realized I didn't say sometimes you listen to shows, you're like, oh, I missed my chance.
	Or you listen to somebody else's podcast and you're like, oh, I got the perfect take that would fit right there.
	And yeah, 2016 Trump election, especially election night, was like coming downstairs on Christmas morning when you're a faithful lieutenant truster in Santa Claus.
	And this year, it's like being a 16-year-old.
	You don't want to be in your parents' house anymore and you're opening presents on Christmas morning.
	It sucks and they don't know you.
	Anyway, maybe a stretched metaphor or analogy, but you got your chaos.
	The chaos is not really like riots in the streets yet and it's petering out, but we'll see how it shakes out.
	Yeah, but next up.
	Oh, sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, I was just going to say, like, the chaos I'm looking for isn't just the rioting in the streets.
	It's, it's, I want to see this system and this and the government in this country completely delegitimized.
	And we're, we are definitely seeing that.
	So it's happening on both sides.
	And we will get into that.
	I'm going to introduce everybody, give just a top line or two to kick things off, and then give you guys a lot of airtime.
	Next up, Sam, I was just about to ask you, hey, Sam, what did you do for election night?
	Did you watch that dinner?
	You were hanging out with us the whole election night.
	That's right.
	Good.
	Good.
	You know, the aftermath of this is when I went into work the next day, all of the MAGA people were long faces and consternation and all that.
	So honestly, I was really enjoying that in a way.
	I don't know how it goes for you guys, but the political arguments that I have in my life is always with conservatives.
	Sure.
	Anymore.
	And I'm talking, I don't know if I'm referring to five years ago or seven, eight years ago, but it's hard to find a liberal to argue with.
	They either don't want to argue or they're just hard to find.
	Honestly, I don't know if it's my area or the particular people that I deal with, but I deal with conservatives and those are the ones that I end up arguing with.
	And, you know, if Trump ends up going on to lose this, there are real opportunities there because now there's some teeth in this thing to argue with them, to gloat, to make fun of them, to say, I told you so, and all that.
	So I don't know if you broke that egg on your head yet, Coach.
	I hope not.
	No, no, of course not.
	Okay, good.
	No, that egg was only going to be if Trump really pulled off a victory by midnight, which would have made it a landslide.
	And it's looking good on the map for me.
	Yeah, right now.
	Yeah.
	I mean, he was making a believer out of me.
	You know, when I was listening to TDS and Mike was talking about how he was having that reaction in the last few days before the election that the other side is so bad, it kind of makes you sympathize with the Trump side a little bit.
	And that's exactly what they want.
	That's what they call the Finkel thing.
	Exactly.
	Oh, yeah.
	The temp.
	Yeah, the temptation.
	I pulled in because I was with everybody else.
	I'm not going to vote in a snap.
	But then those so many days before the election, and I wanted to vote for the district attorney candidate.
	And then I was like, well, you know, I am going to vote for Trump, you know?
	And it is a hell of a thing.
	That one guy that you mentioned in that area on the live stream who was supposedly cool, at least in the olden days, he, of course, lost to Tim Fox.
	Yeah.
	So I was sad to see that for you, but I mean, you know, Pat O'Brien.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's just nice that he got his name out there and he says a lot of good things too.
	Like I've seen him, even, I don't know, five years ago, he was running for something and he puts a lot of good, like, even though a lot of times he's run as a Democrat, he'll put out good information about like, I stand with families and traditional neighborhoods.
	And, you know, he does a little light dog whistling.
	And the guy's really good.
	He's been around for a while.
	Okay, we'll talk about that.
	Pat O'Brien.
	We'll talk about what the system either wanted to happen here, whether this was slightly engineered.
	I mean, it was really a psychological op to have white middle American Trump voters go to sleep.
	Most of them probably had a reasonable hour because they had to get up for work the next day.
	Right.
	And thinking that they were in control and cruising to victory and then literally wake up a few hours later and the rug had been pulled out from under them.
	Right.
	Whether that makes a difference in the long run with our short memories and our return to, oh, you know, Democrats bad, then therefore Republicans good.
	We'll see.
	But yeah, we'll get into that more tonight.
	I'm going to stop calling him Potato Smasher and I'm going to start calling him face fagger.
	What's up, showboat?
	Not much.
	I just figured I would have to show my face before you showed yours because you're way prettier.
	Yeah, we got to work it into the audience.
	No, my wife was like, what are you, you're not that good looking.
	Why do you want a face fag?
	I was like, all right, whatever.
	Seriously.
	Face reveal at 100,000 subs.
	Oh, yeah.
	All right.
	There we're going to dangle it.
	Very good.
	Yeah.
	When we're YouTube live streaming or whatever.
	All right.
	We'll teach you.
	Like six.
	Shut up.
	Yeah, we're at like 450 or 475 on YouTube.
	It shoots slower, but the podcast downloads are far more solid than that every week.
	But anyway, it's easy show for you, Smasher, because you can just say it's all fake and gain.
	It don't matter.
	But in all seriousness, what are your top lines?
	I'm not really surprised it's going this way.
	The only reason I pulled for Trump was because of the bet for a bottle of liquor.
	I still wouldn't be surprised if Trump somehow wins in a roundabout way.
	One of the things I thought about today is that this could very easily be a fake op to try to get people pulled back into the cult of Trump and make him look like Chad and whatever.
	And somehow he contests it and wins in some gay way.
	And that would get a lot of people back on board that he has lost.
	Yeah.
	Trump is annoying and doesn't deliver enough in power.
	Imagine the promises and the rhetoric and the red meat he's going to throw out on Trump TV.
	Maybe he'll run again in 2024.
	Seriously.
	Yeah.
	If he loses, as it looks like he's going to, Georgia's like 3,000 votes apart right now.
	He's eligible to run again in 2024, which makes me want to gouge my eyes out right now and run to the bathroom so I don't see myself in the mirror hanging from the light bulb.
	America won't exist in 2024.
	I promise.
	Personally.
	No, no, no.
	Don't do that.
	We're live streams.
	All right.
	Thanks, buddy.
	Good to see you.
	Family, okay?
	Yeah, they're good.
	We went to Ponderosa tonight, actually.
	There's butter with that steak, though.
	It was, uh, I, I've probably been there before, uh, but I can't remember it.
	Not at all what we were expecting because it was like, yeah, Ponderosa Steakhouse.
	And we walked in and you walk directly to the counter, order your food, and then go sit down.
	I was like, this is like fast food.
	Like, this is like Applebee's, but shit.
	That's really ghetto.
	It's all buffet still, right?
	Or can you order stuff?
	You can order your steak and whatever.
	But then the rest is, yeah.
	The last time I was at a buffet was at the beach with Johnny Monoxide and a couple other families.
	And oh, I mean, it was kind of gross.
	Like, you had a lot of just copious amounts of overeating and greasy stuff and second-rate food.
	Yeah, I don't think I'm going to do this again anytime.
	There's a Chinese buffet nearby that isn't so bad.
	And actually, they're owned by the same people that own a different Chinese buffet that I used to go to in this really obscure spot that I would have to fly out to every once in a while.
	And it was like the only place you could get food.
	So we're like, well, I guess we're going to this Chinese buffet.
	And it's owned by the same people, which is the only reason that I even was like, oh, yeah, we can go there and try it.
	And it's pretty decent.
	I mean, it's still like Chinese buffet, but we had a Ponderosa in my neighborhood when I was a little and it burned down.
	Prank Rome says he was at a sausage buffet at the last mania.
	See, I told you, we bet you were.
	All right.
	Yeah, you make me laugh in the chat, and I'm going to read it on the thing.
	There you go.
	It's like instant through the pipes and stuff.
	But the problem is that I am grug-ground and I get distracted and I stop listening to who's talking.
	But that's all right.
	Smasher was talking about Ponderosa anyway.
	Chinese buffets.
	You got the steak on the bone at Ponderosa?
	I don't know that I've ever been there.
	Yeah, they got a T-bone in there.
	Yeah, I got a Porterhouse.
	The fate of the nation is hanging in the wings, and you're talking about buffet.
	No, but it's important to gnaw on the bone.
	You get the collagen off the bone.
	They say that's like a good, healthful thing is to eat meat off the bone.
	Aphrodisiac, I bet, too.
	Yeah.
	Well, maybe so.
	If you will, it.
	And the Chinese people, Chinese people don't like black, so that's good.
	They're not people.
	They don't like hygiene in their kitchens either.
	No, no, they don't like that for sure.
	They spit a lot.
	Yeah, I spit a lot these days too in the street when I think about the state of the world.
	Moving on, Jo.
	You and Smasher are like the tag team, the bushwhackers.
	You know, it doesn't matter.
	Don't care.
	Screw politics.
	But, you know, you've been with us with us for most of the stream.
	And I know you're secretly paying attention just a little bit.
	Honestly, so like I wanted to be able to participate meaningfully in the stream.
	But, you know, I've been paying a little bit of attention, but I keep seeing conflicting information.
	I don't know what's true because I have been studying so hard for like the past week or two on my tech stuff that, and I really don't care.
	Like, I had a dude who I like hit me up in earnest and say, no, really, what is your take?
	And I ghouled him.
	Just pee-pee, poo-poo, doo-doo, weaning.
	Like, I don't care.
	Like, these people are all Jewish frauds.
	And yes, I'm too good for this.
	Yes, I'm too smart and too cool and too woke to pay attention in earnest to what any of these people are doing, and I hate them all.
	Well, this is Jesse said this on the show yesterday's show up, is that if you, you know, if you are invested in this, like it's a work, you are getting worked.
	Yeah, for sure.
	So being invested literally just means that like, no, you, you aren't woke.
	You're a work.
	Yeah, don't let yourself be manipulated.
	Exactly.
	You're a normie.
	Yep.
	But what does that make us doing streams about the election?
	Entertainers having a good time.
	Just being booze, meaning poo-poo-doo-doo.
	Just making sure servers understanding what's happening.
	Arc builders, maybe.
	I'm going to go with Arc Builders.
	I like that.
	I like colonizers, but Arc Builders is good too.
	I don't like colonizer because I'm anti-imperialist.
	Are you going to raid the Lord Star?
	You got to go somewhere, right?
	And wherever you go, you got to colonize that place.
	You got to exterminate.
	You don't have to be an imperialist.
	No, but it's good.
	You want to know what the puppeteers are doing and why.
	And you sympathize with your fellow white people.
	No meme there, of course.
	As to them getting sucked in and emotionally invested.
	And you understand why they are because whether it's because they're not sophisticated or they're not finding their way to the right media or whatever, they are getting played.
	They are getting used.
	And if this were 2016, I think we would be more high on our horse about our ability to steer them our way.
	And after having been at this for four or five years now, it's sort of like, guys, if you're still waving the Israeli flag and big trucks and thinking that Trump is God Emperor, like there's maybe not a whole lot of hope for you.
	But that doesn't mean we're not going to try anyway.
	I'm thinking about buying a big truck.
	Me too, actually.
	I have to get a replacement truck for the one that I got rear-ended and almost squashed.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	It took them.
	We've had a sweet 2020 rental truck for two months now because it just took them.
	The insurance paying for it?
	The insurance paid for this rental truck.
	I know I should have driven to California and hung out with the beach boys, but dad life that doesn't play too well on the kitchen table.
	So yeah, I'm probably looking for a used, I need to have a pickup truck, need to have four-wheel drive, and it needs to have space for three kids in the back.
	So crew cab and, you know, the ridge line, it has a great interior, the taco, Tacoma, not so good for the kids in the back.
	And I'm thinking I might have to go to the next one.
	Can you put the kids in the bay of the truck?
	When we're driving around practicing for you-know-what with our plastic machine guns for sure.
	But yeah, I think we might just go with a Ford F-150.
	It'd be the first time I ever got a Ford.
	So, yeah.
	I think tomorrow I'm going to go look at a Chevy Dump truck.
	Sweet.
	What's her name?
	A real big truck.
	Back it up.
	All right.
	Let's keep going and get onto the meat here.
	All right.
	We're over 101 in D Live.
	Bless you all.
	We're going to keep you entertained and informed.
	Next up, we have Moto coming back.
	Moto is our financial guru.
	And say hello, Moto.
	Or not.
	We're not, right?
	I don't know.
	Hey, guys, how are you doing?
	Doing great, buddy.
	How about yourself?
	Last couple of days have been okay.
	And so far, I'm actually somehow profiting from all that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, while we're on it, for the rich boys in the audience, and I forget that our entire audience is going to be listening to this.
	This is not just for the D-Live lemon throwers, but Moto, the market, it's like what, the best market response to any election in a long time, something like that.
	But what's going on?
	And it seems like they like the prospect of divided government, right?
	Yes, very, very, very much so.
	And we're pricing in divided government, so nobody gets to do anything.
	Even if Biden wins, he's not going to be able to push through his plan because everything's split.
	And the Fed flat out came out and said, yeah, we're not going to do anything because we're not up to pre-COVID level.
	So we're just going to keep pumping the market full of money.
	Right.
	And the big feared Biden tax cuts, I guess they think if the Republicans have the Senate, even with Susan Collins and a bunch of other lick spittles, that they're going to hold the line on stuff like that.
	Oh, yeah.
	At this point, like despite all the fraud and whatever we've seen, and I'm straight up calling fraud, even if Biden does somehow pull this out, and I don't think he does because the fraud is just too dang obvious this time.
	All right, you're going to be in the minority on this call on that take, but I know you're in the minority on this call.
	You're still hoping because you're in love with Laura.
	You think Lauren Whitzke from Delaware is going to win in a recount?
	That's all I care about.
	I'm telling you, that is my waifu from my internet waifu now.
	You got to get up on your mic.
	I want her to lose and start an OnlyFans.
	Oh, be nice.
	No, don't be.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, Moto, project.
	You're like the loudest guy I know.
	I know, quite like my lit being high.
	Come with yourself.
	It sounds like you're talking through a pillow.
	Yeah.
	It sounds like I'm talking through a pillow.
	Yeah, maybe doing this.
	Like, I'm holding my hand over my mic, and now I sound like you.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, thank you, Moto.
	But you're basically, all right.
	So you think even if Trump wins or if Biden wins, the market's going higher for our boys who are investors and all the rest, they can feel reasonably confident as of right now.
	At this point, yes, because either Trump wins and we go a lot higher, or Biden does pull off this fraudulent win and the government's divided and he can't implement his plan.
	That's my stance.
	All right, we'll see.
	And yeah, when the market was crashing during COVID, if you listen to your analysis, it was pretty good in terms of calling what was going to happen and if you know for age rages, rages and ranges, excuse me, and stuff like that.
	So good on you.
	And yeah, keep making money and give it to the cause.
	But you know that already.
	I had someone ask me, what's this going to mean for taxes?
	And I just said, shut up.
	All right. All right.
	Thanks.
	Thanks, Moto.
	And seriously, though, don't donate to any more hot blondes running in blue states, you damn fool.
	Don't tell me what to do.
	Next up, he is making possibly his first podcast appearance of all time.
	Probably should have asked him that before the show, but we'll leave that a mystery for the audience.
	We have on the general manager, GM.
	Welcome on the show.
	Try not to gloat too hard as your takes have been proven right over the past couple days.
	Hey, thanks for having me on the show.
	I have a pleasure.
	I haven't felt this good since 2016.
	You pure opportunist.
	You don't give a damn about the system.
	You just want to be right.
	Hey, it's your first time on Full House.
	We didn't do this during the live stream because it was too crazy, but lay it on us real quick: ethnicity, religion, and fatherhood status, buddy.
	Sure.
	Mostly German, a little bit of Irish in there.
	I'm a Christian, and I am a father.
	Congratulations.
	And yep, beautiful, beautiful family.
	And you guys started young.
	And bless you for that.
	Wishing many more.
	Thanks.
	But seriously, you have been, you were confident.
	And even when everybody was getting over their skis with Trump and stuff like that, you were like, you guys are crazy.
	He's going to lose.
	Biden's going to win.
	Go ahead, share why you were so confident about that.
	Yeah, so I have some takes that are, they're so blue-pilled that they're actually red-pilled.
	So I can tell you why I think he lost, and then also how I kind of knew early on that he wasn't going to win.
	Because it seemed like around 10:30, 11 o'clock on election night, everybody was saying, you know, I was hearing some takes like, oh, Trump's winning Pennsylvania by 15 points.
	He's going to win in a landslide.
	And I was just reing so hard.
	I was trying to get on the live stream.
	But yeah, what I was seeing first off was I was looking at the House races.
	And if you remember back in 2016, when Trump won by such a razor-thin margin, Republicans actually won the House.
	They picked up like 240 seats.
	So when I saw that, that's not 240.
	Yeah, maybe they reached 240.
	Yeah, they reached 240 seats.
	Yeah.
	But when I was seeing that there weren't a lot of House seats that were flipping, that was my first sign that, you know, that Florida was kind of just going to be a fluke.
	Right.
	I mean, well, hey, Trump did come out in his morose, Kwalud laden, just up from his nap in his Jammies press conference that he said that the GOP didn't lose.
	There was no dem flips in this election for the first time or whatever.
	I didn't do enough homework to see whether that was fact-checked Snopes as true.
	But I mean, it looks like the GOP was supposed to lose seats in the midterms or in this election.
	And instead, they gained at least six the last time I checked and probably a lot more once it's all said and done.
	So I don't know about the House.
	Yeah, but they were wiped out.
	They got wiped out so bad in 2018 that they were bound to just pick up a few.
	But, you know, Democrats are going to keep the House.
	The other thing you have to keep in mind is the Green Party got taken off the ballot in some of those Rust Belt states.
	So what's that?
	Why?
	And what's the significant thing?
	Shenanigans?
	So, I mean, I do believe there was massive fraud in this election.
	I think that the Democrats committed a billion acts of fraud, but I think that the Republicans deserved it, and I don't care.
	I'm glad it happened.
	Screw you.
	Yeah, I mean, I actually don't think there was massive voter fraud.
	I'd say there are faking gay shenanigans every election, kind of on the margins, especially in big cities.
	But if you look at some of the other states that Trump lost, it kind of makes sense that he would lose the Rust Belt by a couple points.
	For one, keep in mind, he won all three of those states last time around by less than one point.
	So, if there was even a slight shift back towards Biden, he was going to lose those states.
	And if you look at some other states, like New Hampshire, for example, Trump in 2016 lost New Hampshire by less than a point.
	This time around, he lost it by like seven or eight.
	I don't think they were doing gay ops in New Hampshire.
	I don't think they were doing gay ops in Colorado, where he lost by double digits.
	Like that, those for me were kind of warning signs that, you know, the country is going to move back a little bit towards the Democrats, and that's going to cost them the entire Rust Belt.
	Well, and you could say, why not both?
	They can keep the fraud ace up their sleeve while also watching Trump's 2016 miracle wither away due to his own lack of promises and not running against Hillary Clinton.
	Before we move on to it, I mean, there's almost always voter fraud, and it's almost always the Democrats not to be a boomer, but like, that's just what they do.
	And he had, what was it, the Cobok Commission or whatever, and he just like was like, oh, yeah, thanks.
	I know you're not done.
	Get out of here.
	It's like, so he could have been purging voter rolls and like following up on like Project Veritas shit and all, you know, all of the things that we know are actually happening and whether that would have been enough to like stop over, but he didn't do it.
	Yeah.
	It's like, regardless of voter fraud, he lost because he did nothing.
	Yeah.
	Well, he did worse than nothing.
	Yeah, I don't remember that boomer.
	There are five times as many white people as black people in this country.
	I'm going to just choose to extrapolate from that that there are five times as many white men as black men in this country.
	13% to 60%.
	We're going to call that five times.
	Five percent of white men.
	Oh, look, you got 12% of the black vote, guys.
	You got 12% of the black vote.
	Yeah, we're going to dig into that too.
	The racial implications here, the fraud, whether it matters or not.
	15% of white men is five times, six times as many.
	Of course.
	Oh, there was the CNN exit poll that said it was actually more like 13.
	I don't know.
	The 5% meme is powerful, more plausible.
	That's what everybody's running with.
	But there was one that clearly showed it was he lost 13% compared to last year.
	And whether that's defections to Biden, you know, I spit on those whites who swapped from 2016.
	And then, of course, just the abstentions or the write-ins, people get their ballots canceled.
	Before we get too more into the weeds, guys, and all this stuff we want to chew on, Keggs for Kavanaugh.
	Welcome on, buddy.
	Short notice.
	Apologies for that, but glad to have you.
	No worries.
	Speaking of hangovers, I can't swear on this very family-friendly broadcast.
	So as someone who has participated in the legal defense of men who were made political prisoners of the Trump administration, I can't adequately express my feelings regarding the departure of Trump.
	The best I can do is Sam Hyde.
	Bye.
	Bye-bye.
	Bye-bye.
	Yeah, that's my gut feeling too.
	Like, you know, starting it off, like, this is what happens, Donnie.
	We were saying it for a long time.
	We've always said you have to build on whites.
	You got in on razor-thin margins.
	White people are dying.
	Geezers who voted for you, as well as 20 and 30-somethings from overdoses.
	And he had to build on his coalition.
	Kegs, also your first time, second time, really, but I didn't really toward the end of the live stream.
	How about yourself?
	It's up to you what you want to share, but are you a dad?
	But at least what's your ethnicity and religion?
	Sure.
	I'm a German-American.
	I'm a Catholic.
	I'm not a father, but I have found the one.
	Hey, what's his name?
	No, it was good.
	Literally the girl who was in the pew in front of me in church.
	So good job.
	So my attitude is I go with the certainty of a sleepwalker along the path laid out by Providence.
	And I feel I've done pretty good in life so far.
	And I'm looking forward.
	I'm optimistic.
	I'm very optimistic.
	Are you trapped?
	No.
	He's trapped.
	I'm a heterosexual.
	Very good.
	You have plenty of bands.
	And I even mean to ask you, Keggs, are you one of those unfortunate souls who went with a meme at a certain time in history and then got stuck with it?
	Or are you a true Kavanaugh fan?
	No, Kavanaugh's a cuck, man.
	So you chose a cuck as your avatar.
	Sorry, pal.
	Just so hard to rebrand.
	Yeah.
	No, I'm the brand of platonic ideal.
	Tombs for Coney Barrett.
	Tombs for Coney Barrett.
	Oh, yeah.
	The Photoshop's slowly but surely expanding her Derrier.
	Awesome stuff.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Amy Coney Barrett.
	Props to Trump for having the balls to nominate three Goyem.
	But again, we don't have to go into the Supreme Court on this one.
	But do you really think that Amy Coney Barrett's not going to morph into a grizzled old Sandra Day O'Connor as a swing vote on everything?
	I think she's going to be the least liberal of the three of them.
	Ooh, all right.
	There's Jayo, our official woman respecter and white knight for women.
	Yeah.
	Not for nothing.
	I actually agree with him on this one.
	Like she gets the leeway, you know, like Kavanaugh had to go in there and appoint nothing but women.
	And one of them, I forget which was which, but one of them voted with the trannies.
	The other voted with the baby killers.
	I think because she's a woman, she's not expected to cuck as much.
	And I really just think that she cares less what people think about her.
	That was my line of thought exactly.
	So appreciate your brother.
	She worked for Uncle Clarence.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, she clerked for Scalia, I believe.
	Oh, yeah, maybe I have it wrong.
	But yeah, Clarence Thomas or yeah, somebody when Gorsuch was nominated, somebody wrote a pretty prescient warning thing about how liberal and wacky his church was out in Colorado.
	Kavanaugh, of course, between the tears and a couple decisions already.
	I forget if it was Kavanaugh or Gorsuch who ruled positively in terms of sexual orientation not being a discriminatory available.
	Hire the tranny bigot.
	It was Gorsuch and it was Roberts.
	And then Kavanaugh did the little, you know, it's so great.
	It's so great that we can make trannies a protected class, but that just wasn't the legislative intent behind.
	So if Kavanaugh had had to be the swing vote, he would have.
	But the tranny, the tranny Supreme Court decision was actually a 6-3 decision.
	So my prediction is, and the next big culture wars issue is going to be in Philadelphia of all cities, the city is requiring that the Catholic charities open up adoption to homosexuals.
	And I disagree that Amy Cohn-Barrett is not going to cuck because I predict that she's going to bring in, as an adoptive parent, as a parent who knows the love of adoptive children, traffic from hate.
	I can't deny our based homosexuals the right to children, the right to adopt.
	So my prediction is by one set of justices or the other, the Supreme Court's going to force the Catholic charities to hand over kids to homosexuals.
	I'm not saying she won't cuck.
	I'm saying that if we look at the next 100 decisions, she will cuck fewer times than Kavanaugh and Gorsuch.
	Well, she's a woman.
	She doesn't actually have to cuck.
	Those are actually just like her default positions to be a far-left retard.
	No, but I think she will be to the right of them.
	To the right of Georgia, I think.
	I just should talk to women.
	We had the question on, I think what every first order question here is, of course, what's going on and what's going to happen, which we don't know exactly, but it's a lot easier to talk about what are the implications.
	And somebody asked in the chat, how is Trump losing?
	Good for us.
	And we can chew on that for hours.
	But before we do that, just the state of the race right now.
	Harry Flashman, who's our political analyst and stayed on for the entire stream Tuesday night and did a great job, wasn't able to come on tonight.
	I asked him, I was like, all right, so what are you saying?
	And he thinks Trump is toast.
	He thinks the numbers that they're racking up will require Trump to go to the courts to beg for mercy, and he's not going to find it, irrespective of whether it's fraud or whether it's the take that, well, what do you expect when you just send ballots out to everybody, which Trump himself warned about impotently, as is his mojo.
	He said there was going to be fraud back in June, and now he's complaining about fraud.
	It's the most impotent emperor has no clothes moment possibly in American political history.
	And he looked like he knew it today.
	It's so many copes out there.
	He gave a press conference about 6:30 p.m. today, and he came out looking like a wet dog, low voice, not looking at the camera, reading his notes, sounding sad, which is not Trumpian.
	And all these people on Twitter and going to rally at courthouses and ballot counting stations saying, oh, you know, we're going to protect the fraud, whatever.
	Like, all right, well, yeah, the guy that you're supposedly going to, you know, put your lives at risk for bringing pizza boxes to bang on the windows and risk getting murdered by somebody there who shouldn't be on the streets in the first place.
	And your grand leader is just out there sort of mumbling into the microphone.
	Everybody's like, oh, just people are still doing four-dimensional chess analysis on this guy.
	And like, well, he's just keeping it.
	He's keeping it calm for right now.
	It's not the right time to call for a fair.
	I said earlier, like him doing anything at that press conference other than declaring himself the winner and demanding the arrest of Joe Biden, anything other than that was gay.
	Yeah.
	But Georgia right now is 3,000 votes separated.
	Yeah, Trump leads by 2,000 votes, essentially, just under 2,000 votes.
	Conservatives are hanging their hats on Arizona, flipping back to Trump.
	But Even if he pulls a miracle in Arizona, and go ahead, who said that's not going to happen if you got more information than I do?
	Yeah, so especially on election night when Arizona got called early, that was kind of another sign for me because really two reasons he's losing Arizona.
	One, just because his demographics are, you know, there aren't any Cuban Hispanics in Arizona, so that's not going to fail out Trump.
	It's that border congressional district right on the border with Mexico that's blue, and then just the good mountain people up there in the north.
	Yeah, Phoenix excerpts.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah.
	I mean, this is where Barry Goldwater came from.
	So, and the second reason is Martha McSally really dragged down all Republicans in that state.
	She was just such a shitty candidate running against a fairly popular guy.
	And pretty much everyone predicted that she was going to lose that race.
	She was never even close in the polls there.
	And I think that's part of what did him in.
	And they elected a lesbian, a moderately attractive lesbian, I might add, or excuse me, she's by.
	I can't remember her name at the moment, but Arizona, Arizona.
	Cinema.
	There you go.
	Cinema.
	Cinema.
	Everybody Google her real quick.
	Yeah.
	She's no Lauren Whitzky, but a little upgrade on Joni Ernst and Deb Fisher.
	Okay, Cinema might like to take a run at me and Whitzky at the same time.
	And who am I to tell her how?
	All right.
	But let's assume, and I heard from Mikey.
	Yeah, Mike Enoch thinks that there's no chance that he's going to be able to pull off Arizona and hold everything else or flip anything else.
	But anybody on this call think Trump is going to win this through true ballot counting?
	Modo, I know, said he did before.
	Modo, are you really just putting your nuts out there to get banged by Spike?
	I think he legit makes an attempt at it.
	I don't know if he wins it.
	Okay, well, he's one of those that, like, per his own ego, like, if there's one guy you want to, like, have in there to, like, tell everybody, like, you know, you're you, I won, and I'm going to challenge, like, take every avenue that I possibly could.
	This is the guy you want in there.
	Yeah, well, he's not going to take a loss.
	Well, of course, he's going to try, or at least give the appearance of trying, because if he does lose, which it looked like he knew it in his heart today, he's got to do something else to make money.
	Remember, it was the apprentice that saved his bacon from all of his failed deals before, him and Mark Burnett teaming up.
	I never watched that show.
	I was like, who the hell want anyway?
	That's not important.
	But of course, he's got to make moves if he's going to be out of office to stay relevant for years of Trump talking on his own TV network or something like that, maybe bringing Tucker over from Fox News and staging a revolt from there.
	So a lot of churn.
	But yeah, I mean, I will go on a record right now that even if he loses per the courts, he won't accept the result.
	I don't know that he has those big cajones, but we'll see.
	I disagree.
	One of your guests, your great guest on election night, Ahab, has drawn the comparison of Donald Trump to the Kaiser.
	And if you know about World War I and the Kaiser, what happened to the Kaiser was it was November 1918.
	German morale was collapsing.
	And what does the Kaiser do?
	He runs off to Holland.
	He, while the socialists are overthrowing his government in Munich, in Berlin, he says, Carl Raddick, it's a total steal.
	The Russian Communist Party heard Eisner.
	Guys, Pindenberg, where are you?
	Yeah, there's somebody said after millions of German men had given their lives in the battlefield, this cuck runs off to the Netherlands, runs off to live with his family on some estate.
	And Trump has the same temperament.
	He talks a big game, and he's going to fade away.
	And he'll still talk tough.
	He'll still be out there in some Dutch estate talking tough.
	Like you had the Kaiser.
	The difference between the Kaiser and Hitler was the Kaiser actually said you should gas the Jews.
	He was a total impotent cuck coward, and he was a very powerful symbol for the German people.
	But in the hour Germany needed him, he cut and ran.
	And the hour America might need Donald Trump, he's going to, you know, run back to Mar-a-Lago.
	We know the realities of this viscerally, especially we Charlottesville veterans.
	But I mean, his supporters were getting beat up in the streets in 2016.
	He himself, remember the Chicago rally he was going to have that they had to cancel?
	You remember the one where he had to be through a back alley to escape or to enter, whichever it was?
	This guy, he's not that dumb.
	He's not that oblivious.
	He knows exactly what was going on out in the streets there.
	And he just pretend he used it.
	He used it as a little antifa designating as a terrorist organization.
	He just uses all these things for sound bites and tweets and to get these little temporary political sugar rushes and not to build an actual policy changing, structurally reforming movement.
	And these people are getting used who are still sticking with them.
	I was thinking more about what Moto said.
	I think he might actually be right that Trump has a pool legitimately.
	I heard there were some mail-in ballots in the West Bank that haven't been counted yet.
	There's a non-zero chance that Trump ends up living in his retirement on the Mediterranean in a tiny sliver of an ethno-state, in all seriousness.
	You know, Bibi would save his bacon if somehow he was going bankrupt or whatever and just said a little beach cabana.
	No, he wouldn't.
	Maybe he wouldn't do a damn thing for him.
	Too much credit to BB.
	Yeah, and Trump's going to barely fight this thing.
	Like, it's been, he's going to monitor the situation.
	Like, cowardice, failure, and not lifting a finger have been the MO of this administration through every step.
	And if he could put up a fight and win, he wouldn't do it because it's too much like work.
	Yeah.
	He's going to be on the run from the Deutsche Bank guys with baseball bats, too, if he doesn't off.
	Okay.
	Not far off.
	Yeah.
	I put this in the chat.
	Great article from a great writer, Greg Hood.
	And let's just get into, let's assume that he loses for argument's sake.
	I think you have to say there's like an 80% chance that that's the most likely outcome here.
	Greg wrote nine different points about why this is great for us.
	We don't have to fisk all of them.
	But I want to say, so, all right, the first one is that it wasn't a blowout, right?
	The Democrats just didn't roll over everything, crush the white slash red resistance, The people who were disgusted by the riots didn't just stay home.
	They came out, and of course, there's millions of people who voted for Trump, and that was their way of protesting what's going on in this country, as misguided as it is.
	And by it not being a landslide, of course, we have more chaos.
	Everybody wants chaos, uncertainty, discrediting the system.
	For the left, it was Russia and all that stuff.
	They never accepted the 2016 results.
	You're going to have tens of millions.
	How many people voted for Trump?
	67 million, you know, approaching 70 million votes for Trump right now.
	69,598,000.
	Yeah.
	I mean, all those people are going to be pissed off.
	The hazard, so you want people pissed off and hating Democrats and what they want to do to this country and feeling like they stole it.
	But of course, the million-dollar question is: are they going to do anything about it or are they going to just get brought back into the same cycle of kosher sandwich, Finkelthink, whatever you want to call it, where power changes back to blue, And then the Republicans are the saviors and they have to support the Republicans in the midterms, which we had to do in 2018.
	All right.
	Sorry about that.
	A little glitch.
	But regardless, Trump losing and white people angry about it and feeling like the system cheated them and they got robbed by the Democrat machine, whether or not there was actually fraud.
	That's got to be good for us, right, guys?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Anything that makes the system look illegitimate is good for us.
	Okay.
	So the simplest framing on this that came to me, of course, was Trump lost because he shilled for black unemployment.
	The platinum plan, the American Dream, cucked for every group other than the people who put him in office in the first place.
	Number one.
	And I think most normies or Mogatards would either recoil or be like, what's wrong with that?
	What are you talking about?
	But just point them to the numbers of the whites who defected or stayed home out of disgust for him not delivering for us.
	Now, there's a little bit, it's a little bit disingenuous, I think, right?
	Because it's not like the whites that Trump lost didn't just bail on him because they have our views, because he gave everything for Israel and cucked for every other race.
	A lot of them were turned off by his demeanor or started to dislike him, or maybe even those ones who came back to Biden thinking he's a middle-class guy and just not as noxious as Trump.
	But it's still true at its core.
	Whether we were 5%, 1%, 2%, the WhigNats did stay home or right in.
	And a lot of other whites defected too across all those states.
	Northeast, New England, he did worse.
	Upper Midwest, he did worse.
	And all that Hispanic improvement in Florida.
	Sure, you kept Florida, but you lost Wisconsin and Michigan.
	Well, it's foolish to think about.
	Go ahead.
	Keggs was in there first, and then GM, go ahead.
	Well, I was going to say it's one thing to think about how many of his supporters have died or had family members die of opioid overdoses in the past four years that he did jack shit about, at least in terms from a justice perspective.
	Because two weeks ago, what the Trump administration's legal priorities were, it was not securing the vote, securing proper election observing from the courts, getting favorable rulings.
	Was settling the Sackler family lawsuit to ensure that the Sacklers only had to give up something like 225 million of the 12 billion in assets they stripped from the company.
	So, yeah, I'm not surprised Donald Trump lost New Hampshire by seven percentage points.
	If he wanted to win New Hampshire, if he wanted to win areas like New Hampshire, and I heard he was actually down pretty heavily in West Virginia as well.
	If he wanted to keep those 2016 margins at least, he should have put the Sackler family's heads on spikes.
	He should have hung after, of course, trial and due process.
	The Sackler family, but he never went after the opioid pushers because, of course, they're Israelis and Donald Trump's an Israeli shill.
	And I think that explains a whole lot of his decline in performance among whites.
	Even those without a racial sense have seen very little justice in this opioid plague that consumed the lives of over 400,000 Americans, predominantly and disproportionately white.
	And I want to know how many people looked at the riots because my big gripe with Normie's Normie conservatives the whole time was the argument of we got to vote for Trump or to stop these riots.
	Okay, you know, he's president right now, right?
	What's he going to do after November or January that he couldn't have done in June?
	I want to know how many other people had that same sentiment because it almost landed.
	This is Joe Biden's America.
	This is what America is going to look like under Joe Biden.
	Yeah.
	No, it's the same garbage.
	Yeah, same bill of goods we got sold in 2018 for the midterms.
	You have to vote for the Republicans to give him the majority to finally have the power to implement his objectives.
	And yeah, no, he uh I'll go back to Greg Hood.
	He said Trump gives the appearance of being a dangerous nationalistic strongman when in reality he's provoking the enemy without delivering any of those real structural changes that would be worth the risk and the ire that he's raising, which we saw.
	I mean my question, where was the fascism?
	I was promised fascism for four years.
	What did he do that is so fascistic or nationalistic or everything that everyone was afraid he was going to do during his rule, it didn't happen.
	Yeah, fascism is when you shut down an entire country.
	And on the left, they're like so checked out that like they think he literally is a fascist.
	Like we're like, we look at Trump as a freaking cuck because he didn't go far enough.
	But like everybody else sees him as like this freaking dictator.
	Well, they've bought into the kosher sandwich, right?
	Like they're we talk about the kosher sandwich in the left-right dialectic.
	But, you know, so we see the kosher narratives here on the right and we know better, but we forget about the people on the left that are imbibing the kosher narratives on the left side.
	They're eating the left half of the bread.
	And we don't think about them because that's not us.
	The only people who can legitimately call Trump a fascist are Palestinians.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Yeah, dozens of new settlements bulldozed just in the past few days alone.
	And that's something that was so obvious in the last, in the month of October, when Adelson was saying, oh, Donnie, I don't know.
	I don't know if I'm going to spend any more money on you.
	And then all of a sudden he dumped 75 million bucks into that hole.
	And for him, he got, what did he get?
	He got two peace deals for Israel and he got expanded settlements.
	Yeah, he got bulldozers.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You know, I knew my vote wasn't going to count this year, so I decided to just vote for the Green Party because they're the only party that supports boycott divest sanctions.
	So I was like, hey, obviously, I don't agree with the Green Party on all their gay social stuff, but it's like, yeah, they support BS.
	I mean, the left was always going to run with whatever narrative they wanted to, right?
	Like, you know, if Trump won, then it's racist America.
	If Trump loses, then it's like victory over racist America.
	We have no power over that.
	Keith Olberman can call for Trump to be arrested right now, even though he's still the president of the United States and hasn't technically done anything wrong in terms of like tweeting about the election.
	But the only power, in a sense, that we have is to explain to people what happened, why it happened, of course, with echoes around it, and why they can't go.
	They can't fall back into the same trap onto the same damn hamster wheel of the Tea Party and all the rest of it, which that's my biggest fear, right?
	So I'll admit that my heart wants Trump to pull off this miracle for the good feels of the tears and far worse that will come.
	I mean, the outrage if he somehow holds onto this into a second term.
	MP likes to say, like, or maybe it was Nam who's like, you know, I'm congenitally inclined to think that nothing ever happens, or it's the other way around, that, oh, yeah, the Syria strikes are going to kick off World War III or this or that.
	And we get worked up in these news cycles.
	And then lo and behold, everything settles down.
	But if Trump does hold on to this into the second term, I think that there has to be massive civil unrest domestically.
	And that'll really put him to the test.
	Well, that was my hope.
	Whether or not I thought it was going to happen, that was my hope is that Trump got it under seemingly shady circumstances or if not shady, just like skin of his teeth.
	Or like at some point Biden people really thought they were going to win, then Trump wins.
	Just because I want the chimp outs in the streets.
	And the reason I wanted it in that direction, as opposed to the direction it went where it looked like Trump had it and then it was Biden is conservatives are cowards.
	They're not going to do anything.
	What are they going to do?
	Drive around in a big truck?
	They're going to honk there will be no blood in the streets.
	There will be no arson.
	And that's just what the left is going to do.
	Yeah.
	Now, now to counter that point or just to present the other point, I saw old Mitch Hube was trying to rally the troops to go support these recount assemblies, whatever you want to call them, Patriot Assemblies.
	Of course, little Nikki is really banging the drums.
	So you have right-wingers who are at least pretending to be getting radical here and system hostile if they steal it from Trump, whether you believe that or not.
	Until the cops tell them to go home because conservatives do whatever cops tell them to.
	Right.
	Yep.
	Would you guys, would any of you guys go to like a pro-Trump assembly if this thing drags on?
	No.
	End up in freaking prison, sitting there.
	Ben Daly and the rest of the good old boys down there that just tried to stick up for themselves when they were attacked at Trump events and ended up in freaking prison and Trump had nothing for them.
	Get out of here.
	CBS News has learned that President Trump does not plan to concede, even if Joe Biden declares victory in the coming days.
	Okay.
	A little gossip there.
	Yeah.
	Some staff are leaking to him.
	It's some gook lady on CBS.
	So that's true.
	Yeah.
	But I don't know.
	I'm looking at the map right now, and I'm really excited by this.
	I hope Biden wins Nevada and is at 270, and that leaves Trump at 268.
	And that will be like premium shit show, I think.
	Especially if it's legit that Trump is not going to concede.
	If he's at 268 and says, I'm not going to concede, that's going to be a good time.
	Yeah.
	But back to the messaging to the white people, which is one of the few things that we can do.
	We have the power to.
	Of course, if Trump loses, it's close and it was robbed from him.
	And the Republicans start.
	You can see many of the Republicans are sitting on their hands.
	They're cucking.
	Tucker tonight had on some black sports journalists, like arguably one of the most important political times in recent political history.
	And he's interviewing some black guy who's a sports journalist.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, yeah, we have to prevent them from getting back on the hamster wheel and explaining that, yes, there could have been fraud.
	And the reason why that happened is because Trump was impotent and didn't seize the opportunity that he had.
	And the left will play hardball where the Republicans never will, even though they'll pretend.
	Like Mitch McConnell is just licking his chops.
	Article about Turtle Mitch with his new six-year sinecure secured.
	He's going to be the kingmaker on Capitol Hill, right?
	In terms of judges, he said, oh, yeah, we'll work with the Democrats on Supreme Court appointments.
	Just no radical leftists, right?
	So you get conservatives who come into the Supreme Court and then turn left.
	So Mitch is going to take like middle of the road, guys, or whatever.
	And the idea.
	So the article that I posted in the chat from the week was by a middle-of-the-road writer who had good points regardless.
	And he was basically saying, don't freak out.
	Like the left isn't going to be able to implement this radical agenda because we still have the Senate and Biden and Kamala aren't that popular.
	And the left might revolt because they're not getting everything that they want.
	There will be all these fissures and stuff like that.
	But you really think with, you know, the filibuster has been destroyed for Supreme Court justices.
	Republicans are always bad on amnesty.
	You really think the Senate is going to be this firewall?
	Amnesty's coming, baby.
	Amnesty is coming.
	Yep.
	Smasher.
	All right.
	Go ahead.
	Smasher.
	All right.
	Go ahead.
	Was that right?
	There's an audience request.
	Okay, very good.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Now, and I'll tell you why we're going to.
	I'm going to talk some real big on the screen so everybody can see the rest.
	Oh, yeah.
	Go ahead, Keggs.
	Okay.
	I'll tell you why we can't have Trump win now, especially now.
	And I was tempted to have some good feelings when I had a little taste of Libtar tears last night or election night.
	But now I know we cannot have Trump win because if Trump wins now, the next four years is going to be the biggest giveaway, the biggest pandering, the biggest slavish.
	That's what I said the other day.
	The worst case scenario is that cucking worked.
	If he gets all of these blacks and Latinos to vote for him and he wins on that, then we're five generations away from anything productive.
	JO, I'm throwing a yellow flag.
	That was an egregious interruption.
	It's okay.
	You were right.
	It was good content, but Kegs, go ahead.
	No, J-O's like, what?
	This is the podcast.
	This is what we did.
	That's my point.
	I guess maybe he'll win with a big truck pooch, but I just don't see Donald Trump sticking up for himself, sticking up for his voters, sticking up for anyone who believed in him.
	The fact if Donald Trump says he actually conceded, and this is not, I don't know, lip-hard fever dreams, the fact that he says, I will not concede, that means he's going to concede.
	Take it.
	Yeah.
	No, you can already see that the Republicans right on schedule have learned all the wrong lessons from this.
	And as their candidate has his tiny lead whittling away in these diversifying states, they're crowing about his goddamn improvements among Hispanics and among blacks, which is the black improvement was infinitesimal, and the Hispanic improvement was largely in Florida, which they probably did need to keep Florida.
	So they're going to, it's, it's the writing on the wall every single time for the GOP.
	They just refuse to accept in their hearts or let alone say anything about it that whites are the majority of their party, the people who march out for them and need help in this country.
	And instead, it's like Tom Wolf in that thing where he was always looking for the great white defendant.
	They're just looking for like the great blacks and the great Hispanic Republicans.
	They're going to double down on cucking.
	And it will discuss the white pillow of that.
	It will disgust millions of Americans who are going to continue to keep coming in our direction.
	I think that's why it's so important to stop.
	It goes back to the guy we had the other night on Ahab.
	Like they're just, they just keep chasing non-white and hoping that something different is going to happen.
	And it's just, it's just not.
	And even when it does work, it's not like that you just gain them at no expense, right?
	And how hard would it have been?
	We would have, even after we were so jaded with Trump after two, three, almost four years, if he finally at the last minute, right?
	He would, he would give us the dog whistles, the German Shepherd whistles, but he actually said, oh, and by the way, white unemployment is whatever.
	Nobody knows what that number is, whether it's better or worse, because they effing refused to talk about it.
	But if he just threw a little bit of racial red meat, the left would have exploded and he would have gained what, maybe another 1% support from some of our diehards.
	And he just, he refused to do it because you know he'd get yelled at by Jared Novanka back in the Oval after he did it.
	You know he got mauled.
	It would have worked out to several million votes if he actually bothered to do it.
	And he still did.
	Yeah.
	ALZ in the chat said I was jaded when the first thing he did was pardon Rubishkin, who is employing illegal aliens and is the archetype of the skeevy Orthodox Jew.
	Yes, so true.
	I mean, think back.
	He threw a great American hero, arguably Flynn, under the bus in like the first week.
	Talk about putting blood in the water for your enemies.
	Didn't he basically just like show his secretary his secret calendar or something?
	Who, Flynn?
	Yeah.
	He was having phone calls after Trump won and before they took office, like normal operating procedure to start lining things up and talk about potential policies.
	And yeah, Trump just threw him to the wolves.
	He had to deal with legal battles for the past four years.
	And yeah, the level of using that Trump will stoop to is yeah, what about ALZ just said, what about Sessions?
	That's what I was going to say.
	He just totally boned Jeff Sessions.
	This is why it's so important that we not push the Trump lost because of voter fraud meme and instead make sure people understand that lost because of policy.
	But why not both?
	I mean, I believe there, of course, there's fraudulent.
	It's a more useful narrative because, I mean, just take, for example, and this is kind of normy, but it's something that our people haven't really talked about much in this election is the Republicans didn't even bother to put out a health care plan.
	That's like consistently one of the most important issues to people.
	You know, middle-class white people are barely getting by because they can't afford health care.
	And every time he'd get asked about it, it was like, oh, we're going to have a great plan.
	It's going to be great.
	He had nothing, and it was just embarrassing.
	Like you're running in a presidential election and you have nothing to say about health care.
	Oh, exactly.
	Yeah.
	Immigration put him in the office.
	He never, yeah.
	We could fill a whole show with the Trump promises not delivered.
	There's my dryer just finished.
	A little background music.
	We should play it for break music.
	Yeah, I'll just put that on a loop.
	For me, it was the serious strikes, though.
	Like, that was just a flashing red sign, red signal on the console, like the exact opposite that you did.
	And that night after those missiles flew, I went out and I got a razor blade and I didn't cut my wrists, but I did scrape the Trump bumper sticker off of the back of my truck that night.
	I was so disgusted.
	Just I can't believe you ever put one on.
	Oh, man, I put one on in 2015, baby.
	I was an early adopter and an early fleer.
	I have one.
	It's still on my toolbox.
	I won't scrape it off because I don't want scrape marks on my toolbox.
	I thought you had one on your guitar, too.
	I covered that one over with a white power sticker.
	Hey, Smasher, the flag behind you, I know it's the white power flag, but what is the origins of that?
	Is that a Celtic cross?
	Celtic Cross.
	It's a Celtic Cross.
	And just when it's white on black, then we just make it the white power cross.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I guess so.
	I mean, they'll call any Celtic Cross racist.
	You just ask the guy who can't read what the fuck shit means around him.
	Come on now.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's there was a fascist group in Ireland that used a version of the Celtic Cross.
	And that's actually the oldest version that I can find of it that was used explicitly by guys that were based.
	But the Celtic Cross is also Odin's Cross, and I think like the Sun Cross or something like that.
	And oh, Norwegian Nazis used a version in the 30s and 40s.
	And then, of course, like a bunch of bands and everything have used it.
	Stormfront Stormfront has, it's still the logo for Stormfront, I think.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Moto, go ahead.
	I guess that's it.
	No, that's your history lesson.
	No, thank you.
	I knew some of that.
	I didn't know all that.
	Moto, Biden wins, Republicans hold the Senate.
	What sectors do you like?
	I mean, are they going to be able to push through some anti-fossil fuel renewable energy program or whatever?
	Any renewable energy, any rail, anything that basically is a shift from the current life most of us live.
	Solar, renewable, rail.
	If you can invest in black owned infrastructure, good stock.
	Yeah.
	Can you invest?
	This might sound counterintuitive, but I think if Biden does win, you should actually pick up some travel stocks because at that point, I think the media is going to start to downplay the virus.
	That's working.
	We were live, I would see something, but I'm not going to.
	Gotcha.
	All right.
	Let's see here.
	In terms of the white losses, what do you guys think?
	Did the WhigNats actually make a difference, or is this more normies defecting the Biden?
	I think the Wignats actually made a difference, but it's not just WigNats.
	It is white people that he let down.
	It is the working class that does not have a job right now.
	The people that are worried about losing their houses here in a few months.
	And all of those people, you know, just white people, just normal white people that they voted for Trump because they understood on some level that he was the white candidate pushing for their interests.
	And he got their vote, and then he did nothing for them.
	And so they said, see you later, guy.
	Yeah.
	Smasher, you were also looking at Biden's platform earlier.
	And, you know, obviously don't read the PDF, but the gun section in particular was way over the top in terms of taxing magazines.
	Was it magazine registration?
	If you get caught with an unregistered magazine over 10 rounds, like you're a felon.
	Yeah.
	I won't say anything about that.
	RIP Bob Matthews.
	Yeah.
	Hail the order.
	But yeah, if Biden planned for the Muslim American community, our diversity is our strength.
	The Biden plan for the Latino community.
	The Biden plan for the Arab American community.
	The Biden agenda for the African diaspora.
	The Biden plan for the AAPI community.
	I don't know what that is.
	Probably Pacific Islanders.
	The Biden plan for the Indian American community.
	The Biden plan for the Jewish community.
	On and on and on.
	But you know who doesn't have a Biden plan?
	What community does not have a Biden plan?
	White people.
	White people.
	A dwindling majority of this country.
	AAIP, Asian American Pacific Islander.
	Yep.
	Stryker.
	I'll give Stryker a hat tip.
	He's got two articles up on the main page.
	Of course, he's got them up on National Hyphen Justice, but he's got them up at unz.com as well.
	UNS with his 80s Macaroos propagandizing striker.
	But he made the very good point that on populist issues, even in deep blue states this year, anti-affirmative action won overwhelmingly in California.
	Minimum wage, growing minimum wage in Florida passed, which is, of course, considered a democratic issue.
	So it's the stuff that we've been saying for years: that a little bit of white identity and a little bit of we care about you economic policy is like the magic potion.
	And that's why it doesn't happen because they don't want us to have magic potion to sell to the Goyam and to get them off the farm.
	I have a little bit of a black pill on the ballot initiatives.
	Sure.
	You don't like well, no.
	In two states, I think it was Nebraska, Nebraska, and Utah, there was a ballot initiative saying, should we get rid of slavery as a punishment for crime?
	And people voted to get rid of it.
	Yeah.
	I'm thinking it makes me think of.
	People voted to what?
	To abolish slavery?
	Or was it?
	What was it, GM?
	Oh, it was basically they voted to get rid of using slavery as a punishment for crimes.
	Oh, yes.
	Important one to get off the books, but possibly resurrected for us if they come after us.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I'm, you know, when it comes to self-defense items, gun stocks are very interesting.
	You figure they're going to surge.
	Gun stocks are very interesting.
	Extremely important to make sure that you have the right stock on your gun.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	But you figure they're going to surge and then eventually the bottom is going to drop out of that.
	Oil, energy stocks, et cetera.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	My, you know, I'm looking at this and it's so easy to say, oh, yes, chaos will come.
	This will be good, et cetera.
	But my gut also tells me that we just revert back to, you know, the left versus right, the blue versus the red.
	And there we are on the sidelines, yelling and screaming and shaking the fence and trying to wake people up.
	And they look at us like we're crazy and like we're the counterproductive ones.
	Like you have to get back on the Republican reservation to stop this leftist agenda of socialism.
	My dad can kick your dad's ass.
	They really did.
	That brings up the, you know, supposedly Pelosi in the House Democratic Conference had a conference call today and the Hoi Poloy in the House, the lower ranking members were pissed and blamed the Democrats and blame the leadership for letting things get so out of control with the Black Lives Matter, with the overt socialism, et cetera, radical leftism, anti-whitism, and saying, if you do this again, you know, we're all dead.
	So they, you know, they are aware that their stuff is unpopular with vast swaths of the country, which aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
	So they're going to counsel a little bit of caution.
	You know, it's how much of an acceleration?
	Do you really want it to get a lot worse or do you want this little Democratic incoming administration to just spin its wheels for another four or eight years while the immigrants keep coming in and changing the demographic so we have no hope?
	Texas, is this the last time Texas votes Republican?
	Maybe they can eke out another one in 2024.
	Jeb makes his triumphant comeback.
	God, I can't wait to vote for Jeb.
	Kegs, do you buy into the whole like the Democrats are going to own everything as the demographics change?
	Or do you think the Republicans will still be able to just pull more rabbits out of their hats and get people to keep lining up for them?
	Well, no, because we're going to take all the whites from the Republican Party.
	That's the attitude.
	So our agenda over the next four years is get whites off the GOP plantation and just break conservatives and whites in general of this cancerous lesser of two evils ideology and heuristic that I just saw too many, saw too many good white men who knew better being sucked in.
	Lesser of two evils, lesser of two evils.
	No, break yourself of the habit now.
	If that's your strategy, if that's your heuristic, like someone like Greg Johnson, you're going to be voting for the anti-white candidate.
	You'll be voting for Lindsey Graham over Corey Robert because at least Lindsey Graham will be interject, but like at this point, this is our fork.
	Either we take control or we don't take control, and I'm not going to go down that road right now.
	I mean, they're just planning for non-white America, and so they're not pandering to us anymore.
	He needed to pander us to us to get elected in 2016.
	He thought that it was still that it was late enough in the game that we could just ignore white people, which he did.
	And it turns out there's still enough of us to matter.
	Yeah, no, there's no way out of this absent the destruction of the GOP because, yeah, with their financiers and their commitment to big business will not allow them to structurally across the board turn into a populist party.
	They'll let the Whitskies run in races or sneak through a little bit in states where they have no chances of winning.
	Allow the Goyam to vent a little venture.
	I'm talking about my future wife like that.
	Yeah, the Sailor strategy is over now.
	Yeah, with every passing year, the Sailor strategy becomes less salient as you've got a smaller pond, smaller stock of fish to fish from.
	Wild Rich had a good take today.
	He said, if they will be this blatant, I'm paraphrasing in the face of half of America to basically spit in their face.
	And now, you know, whether or not they're stealing votes, at least the appearance that they are stealing it through all this last-minute counting and laziness, imagine what they would do to us when they have complete power.
	Us, meaning pro-whites, white nationalists, national socialists, whatever you want to call it.
	Very true.
	And I'll also give props to Greg Hood, who talks about the two S's that white people need to start thinking about.
	And of course, those are separation or secession.
	And we've talked about this a lot on the show: that if the hardy stock of Americans were witnessing everything that's gone on, not just in the past four or five years, but over the past couple decades, and how we've taken it on the chin and continued to line up and be good boys at the ballot box, they'd be spitting mad at minimum.
	All right.
	Anything else on the election, guys, before we move on?
	MP, should we take a break and move on to the dad stuff?
	Or you got anything else in your pile in your stack?
	Nope.
	Whatever my parting thought is: don't blame me.
	I voted Hitler.
	Yeah.
	Same here.
	Don't blame me.
	I voted Wignet.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	Well, Smasher NJP, this is going to be a real window of opportunity for the party.
	Yeah.
	Soon.
	Yeah.
	And I'll admit to in a separate chat saying NJP needs to get the let out and get and get chopping because the time is short.
	And I know you know that and it's not easygoing, but for people to see something that they can really get behind and support and yeah, line up for.
	We're all going to make it.
	We're all going to make it.
	All right.
	Let us take a break real quick.
	We've been going for an hour and a half.
	MP, if you have the break stuff ready, go for it.
	We'll see if we can get a couple more guests in and we will refill our drinks.
	Thank you, fam.
	We will be right back.
	We'll talk more about the NJP and also some bad stuff.
	The second half, second hour of Full House episode 68.
	Also live streamed.
	Thank you to our live audience tuning in with us.
	We were rapping during the break and saying, oh, we really dragged on there toward the end.
	We believe in truth and candor here.
	And this is literally our second live stream.
	We went four and a half hours on election night and just kept it flowing the whole time.
	And this time, we're sort of pouring over the rubble of the election and trying to make sense of it all.
	And it ain't decided yet.
	We're still working it out.
	And we're going back to our regular format of the second half of the show.
	Just happened to do it live.
	So, with that, we're getting on to our favorite part of the show, or the most important part, as we say, which is congratulations on New White Life.
	We were made aware that this week, Rabbi Rubble, I think he would say Rabbi Rubble instead of Rabbi Rubble, welcomed his first son into the world.
	So, Rabbi, congratulations.
	Hope that's a meme name for sure.
	Seriously.
	I'll just say, Son and Steele fan of the show are expecting new life.
	And we got the kind congratulations, Son and Steele.
	Sorry, I don't want to just run right over that.
	And Rufus Arius sent us a wonderful note.
	He's a great guy, and he says, Hey, coach and gang.
	Good idea, Rufus.
	We should rename Full House to Coaching.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Yeah, Cool and the Gang, Coach and the Gang.
	Good memes for Smasher on the Artwork.
	Pleased to announce a wonderful new addition to our household.
	It's okay for you guys to say my name on the show, but more importantly, to recognize my amazing wife.
	This is our third child, second daughter, and we did it at home.
	My wife was amazing and astounded the midwife with both her mental and physical strength.
	And we are already talking about number four.
	I can't say enough about her and how proud I am of her.
	Home birth is definitely a bonding experience for all involved.
	And thank you guys for all you do.
	No, you, Rufus.
	Congratulations.
	Yeah.
	What a guy.
	Good guy, right there.
	Yeah, I don't have the stones to go for home births personally.
	It makes me too nervous.
	And when Potato came along, we were very glad that we were not at home without advanced machinery and without doctors on hand.
	So, man, I give a lot of credit to the people that are that confident they can go for it.
	But, Sam, I forget, were yours all born in hospitals or you did the homebirth?
	They were all born by midwives, but they were all born in hospitals.
	But a lot of hospitals, at least in the time that I was having kids, there was the advent of this thing called the alternative birthing chamber, which would be sort of just like something that looks like a hotel room or a bedroom and no medical equipment, but you're in a hospital.
	So it was kind of like the best of both worlds.
	I would say if the wife is in good health and there's no issues or areas of concern, then you can try it.
	And certainly if you get that first baby or two and you're not having any problems, then I would say that maybe home births are good for you.
	But like you say, if there's some kind of emergency or something, you'd do well to be close to a hospital or in the hospital.
	Yep.
	Amen.
	So especially, it could work.
	I know we have some friends.
	The lady, she has six children.
	They're all born at home and no problems or anything, but she's in good health and she had a lot of experience with it and so forth.
	So that's all I got to say on that.
	Amen.
	And yeah, just for the audience's benefit, right now in the stable, we have Smasher Sam and the general manager along with Mr. Producer as we beat the dead horse of the election to death again in the first half.
	We'll see how things shake out.
	Sticking with the dad content, though, I was hanging out with the Smashers two weeks ago, three weeks ago, whatever it was, and we were having a couple drinks and sitting around the table and just talking about our experiences as kids growing up and the amount of support, either moral or material, as we got older and especially as we were out of the house and as we became parents.
	Now, this is a real thicket of weeds in terms of our responsibilities to our children after they're 18 or after they're out of the house or after they're having kids.
	I want to simplify this and say that the boomer mindset is, you know, well, it's my job to keep you healthy and safe up until you're 18, and then you're out on your own and it's your life and bootstraps and all the rest of it.
	I get that to a certain extent.
	And I know personally of parents who have stayed invested in their children, vested in their children, whatever words you want to characterize it with, throughout their lives, both in terms of material support, not spoiling, but just continuing to invest in them and education, investing in their kids themselves, so investing in their own grandkids.
	And of course, it depends on your material ability to do that.
	And it depends on your threshold for what constitutes spoiling and coddling and what constitutes hard ass, unfair checking out boomer self-indulgence, you know, getting the getting the boat, getting the big truck or whatever else to go fritter your money away instead of saving it up for your kids and their futures.
	I don't want to get too personal on this one in terms of who was who, et cetera.
	But I am going to do the sort of standard coach radical centrist take, not because it's safe, but because I think it's probably right.
	And I'll just, I'll, I'll keep it a little bit brief and let you guys chew on it.
	But I think you have to have a happy medium of not instilling an expectation among your children that they're always going to have mom and dad shekels or investing or a place to fall back on because it becomes a crutch for a lot of them or could lead to laziness or lack of ambition.
	But at the same time, the parents who say, you know, you're out on your own, we can have phone calls and here's a little bit of here, a little bit here, a little bit there, when and if they can, is probably also the wrong approach.
	I know people who are, and it also depends on the kids themselves, too, right?
	If you've got a kid who's a self-starter and can get out and make a life on his own, then I could understand a parent who's saying, well, the temptation is, you know, he's fine, let him go.
	And then if you have a real black sheep in the family that is a mooch for one reason or the other, then they become, they sort of become a sponge on mom and dad for a lot longer, and that might breed a little bit of contempt and the other kids who aren't getting the support.
	Do they have to divide up everything, even Stephen?
	You know, five kids, everything's into 20% quartiles.
	But yes, Sam, as always, with the most and with older kids.
	Yeah.
	How about it?
	Well, I can remember stories from like hearing from my grandparents or even great-grandparents.
	You know, it was not uncommon in a different day and age where the son grew up and he got married and maybe him and his wife live with the family for a time, you know, until they were really ready to go off on their own.
	So I think that as long as the kids are doing things that are productive and progressive, maybe somebody's going to college or somebody's just out of college and they're trying to line up that first good job or whatever the situation.
	I think there's, I don't, I don't necessarily believe in this tough love of pushing people really hard or pushing them out on their own.
	But then there's the other situation you described.
	You have a slacker, somebody who's taking advantage of and things like that.
	So I get that too.
	In my situation, I'm not going to go into excruciating detail, but I'll just say approximately half of the kids are living at home under different circumstances of either they are in college or someone is just out of college, but they have a job and they're helping with bills too.
	And, you know, there's those types of situations.
	On the other hand, a couple of my children are living in a piece of property that is owned by the family and they are essentially renting rooms in a multi-unit building.
	Sure.
	And so they're kind of on their own.
	But, you know, one of the things that exacerbates the whole situation is now you have this thing like with the insurance, right?
	So people can be on your insurance up until age 26, which makes it sound good in a way.
	Let's make sure everybody's got coverage and stuff like that.
	But at the same time, it's like you never have to really get a good job and push yourself to get that good job because you still got that umbilical cord attached.
	That's right.
	And somebody's still taking care of me and all that type of thing.
	So, you know, it's like a complicated situation.
	Like I said, you know, it was not uncommon in olden times that families lived more together.
	And even maybe when you were ready to go off on your own with your wife or something, maybe you'd move next door to your parents.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Things like that.
	And that kept families together.
	And so I see that as a good thing.
	Yeah, there's some European health cases that are still like that.
	Smash your habit without getting too personal.
	Well, You know, I think it's your duty as a parent to make sure that your children have what they need to succeed, and it's your duty as a parent to try to set them up on a successful path.
	Uh, so you know, I don't think it's realistic to distribute everything evenly amongst your children.
	Uh, you also shouldn't necessarily be just like giving things away to your children for no reason.
	Um, if they don't need it, you should be there to help catch them when they fall.
	Um, but then you know, maybe help pay for college if that's what they want to do, or maybe pay for trade school if you have the money to buy them a house.
	If they want to buy a house instead of going to college and they're going to trade school and they don't have to pay for trade school or whatever the case may be, okay, well, here's you know the 10 grand I was going to give you for college, and now you have a down payment on a house or to buy a truck to do your big truck so you can go clean windows or whatever it is you're going to do.
	Um, but you know, I think that's most often not what happens.
	Kids don't get uh what they need or necessarily what they deserve.
	I think a lot of kids either get way too much from their parents or not nearly enough.
	Uh, and that's not universal across even the children.
	You know, you might have one child that gets everything while another kid gets nothing, even though one deserves it and one doesn't, or whatever the case may be.
	Uh, maybe nobody gets nothing, even though parents could do it.
	You know, maybe they're hardcore boomers that buy yachts and timeshares and give nothing to their kids.
	Yep, yeah.
	How many uh spoiled, rich, indulgent, trust fun kids uh did I know or have I met who I know for a fact you know coasted through college because they knew they had some family hookup after the fact or they knew that they'd be okay even if they didn't get good grades.
	I can picture them sitting on the couch right now, many of them uh who echoed too, which is interesting.
	I hated those people.
	Yeah, what's that?
	I hated those people in college.
	They were the worst people, so jealous at the time, though, right?
	Like, look at this guy, like, he ain't even worried about nothing.
	So, when I was in shit, when I was in college, I knew this girl who had a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and I remember getting in her Grand Cherokee thinking, like, wow, look at this car.
	I'm like, I'm like, uh, and you know, as a poor person, because I grew up pretty poor, I was like, Well, how much are the payments on this?
	And what's the insurance like on this?
	She's like, Sure, I have no idea.
	I'm like, What do you mean you have no idea?
	My parents take care of it.
	My parents bought this.
	I'm like, Do you even know if you have a payment on this?
	And she's like, I don't know.
	I was like, What credit cards that went right to mom and dad?
	Yeah, yeah, it's crazy to me.
	The first, the first car I ever owned was a 1992 Opal Omega B.
	I bought it for 2,000 Euro in Germany.
	I didn't have a car in high school because my parents wouldn't buy me one.
	Yeah, I feel like America has the worst of both worlds set up as the two most likely things.
	Either like you're 18, you're out on your ass, go build your own life, bootstraps, man, or the alternative where they just become basement-dwelling video game players, and mom's like too scared to say, Hey, go get a job.
	And that's, of course, an oversimplification, maybe an unfair dichotomy.
	No, it's not.
	I think I would say the thing that you got to do is your children have to see that you are working hard and that you are not living a lavish lifestyle or doing wasteful things or opulent things or luxurious things.
	They have to see you working hard and being virtuous and things like that.
	And then as they grow up, they will take life more seriously too, realizing that you have to really work at things.
	And it's just very natural as a parent, you want to give your children anything that'll put a smile on their face.
	But that's not always good for them either.
	But the whole thing has to be somehow rooted in reality.
	And that's where I think by having a larger family, you're kind of imposing a certain amount of regimen and discipline on yourself because you can't do everything you want to do.
	And you can't give your kids everything that you would like to give them.
	And so it's imposing kind of a realistic thing, even if you are a successful person and you have a good income and things like that.
	But when you accept a larger family, then there is that kind of a hardship that comes along with it.
	Yeah.
	The different expenses and things.
	And it doesn't even have to be said, right?
	Like those kids basically understand that that's the way it is.
	You don't have to say, well, I can't give you this or I can't afford to give you this.
	It's like, wow, we got to conceive that you can't afford it.
	Yeah, we got all these kids and they all want the same things I want and need the same things I need.
	So you can't just assume it's going to be.
	I think a big problem is when you've got a family and you see like a clear, clear favoritism.
	And I don't even necessarily mean within just the mom, dad, and children, but across the entire family.
	You know, you might have a grandfather that has money.
	And so, you know, he maybe doesn't spoil his kids, but then he spoils the grandkids.
	And, but then only certain grandkids, because maybe one of maybe one of his children asks about stuff, right?
	And then, so then it's like, okay, one, one small subset of grandfather's family gets everything while the rest get nothing.
	And then it creates this like awkward, horrible dynamic.
	That actually happened in my family.
	Yeah, same.
	I have a little experience with that.
	Yeah.
	And the thing is, my grandfather spoiled, you know, among all of us cousins, he spoiled one particular cousin and literally bought him a car.
	Didn't do anything for the other cousins.
	And yeah, that's the one cousin who's kind of like a mess right now.
	Yeah, I've got a few cousins, all sisters.
	And I don't know if they're aware of it, but I know about it.
	And my grandfather basically paid for their colleges, their college educations, including master's degrees and two of their weddings because two of them aren't married yet.
	And nobody else in the family got anything.
	And he didn't do it to show favoritism.
	It's my aunt just asked and he did it.
	Well, she probably didn't ask directly.
	She probably went and cried and was good, daddy.
	I don't know how I'm going to do this.
	And then he just wrote a check, not thinking about it.
	But he kept a journal of everything that he ever, every dollar that he ever gave to everyone in the family.
	And not a single thing written on my dad's page.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's a little salty.
	Little salty.
	Yeah.
	There's, I, uh, I forget if it was a friend or a listener who sent this in, but regardless, well, if you're a listener, you're a friend.
	Uh, the weird choice to hoard your treasures and then have it transfer after you're dead to your kids.
	So they get this big gift after you're gone, sort of like grandeur from beyond the grave.
	That's what life works.
	Well, and the unfortunate thing about that is a lot of times you yourself might already be at advanced age and maybe you've already gotten past some of the times in your life where you could have used that help, you know?
	Exactly.
	And that's the whole idea.
	Yeah.
	Like parents supporting kids when they need it, which is usually during family formation, right?
	When they need to get a house.
	Yeah.
	Shout out to Evo in the chat who was talking about, yeah, parents like putting down money for a down payment for a new house, ideally in the same zip code or same county, right?
	Well, that's also something from olden times you hear about where the, let's say, I, as the father, it would be literally my responsibility to make sure each one of my children had a home.
	Yeah.
	So, and maybe that was in a time when you could build your own home or, you know, maybe things were not as complicated as they are now.
	But, you know, you should maybe try to look at it that way a little bit.
	I will build a homes.
	Are you financing seven mortgages?
	No, no.
	Well, kind of going back to what Coach was saying earlier about striking a balance, I think the most important thing is to be tougher early on.
	And then once your kid has proven that they can support themselves, then I think it's okay to kind of help them out a little bit here and there.
	But when they're still in those teenage years, it needs to be you're paying for your own car.
	You're paying for your own school.
	You're getting a part-time job.
	Right, exactly.
	You need to get a job as soon as you're legally allowed to, which in most states is, I think, 14.
	And I'm grateful that my parents did that for me because it gave me a strong work ethic.
	And now, you know, it's not a big deal if they want to help me out here or there.
	Mostly they want to help out the grandkids or whatever.
	And, you know, I appreciate that.
	Did they help you out, though?
	Like my big worry with my kids is turning them into new debt slaves.
	I want to do everything I can to make sure our enemies don't get new debt slaves out of my progeny.
	So did your parents help you out when the time came to avoid debt slavery or to minimize it, let's say?
	No, I mean, here's what we told me.
	They told me if you're talking about college, for example, that's the main debt slavery.
	They told me very early on as I was going into high school, like, we're not paying for you to go to college.
	So if you want to get a free ride through college, you better get amazing grades.
	Did you?
	I don't want to get too personal, but.
	Not to brag.
	Okay.
	So they were never put in a position where that was going to be tested, I guess.
	Because I feel the same way.
	I want my kids to do everything they can to help themselves.
	But at the same time, I'm not going to let my, like, if my child doesn't get the best grades and doesn't get a full ride to go to school, if that's what they want to do.
	By the way, my kids will either go to some kind of professional school or they won't go to college at all.
	I won't have a child that will go get a liberal arts degree or some degree in psychology or English or anything like that.
	They have to go to like a school that when you get out, you may have to take an exam and then you become like whatever that is, a pharmacist.
	Yeah, you know how to actually do something.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Engineer, pharmacist, I don't know what they're doing.
	I'd rather have him in the basement than at Columbia for English.
	So my kids are only if you teach them early on to be good with money and to be into work hard and to be smart, then they're going to know to not make that dumb decision to take out a hundred grand for an English degree or whatever.
	Absolutely.
	But I'm just making it clear up front to them right now.
	I have a teenager, right?
	It's clear to my teenager that that's just never going to happen.
	But my teenager has recently showed interest in a program that they would need to go to college, like in a career that they would need to go to college to actually do.
	And if my teenager does not, you know, get a full ride to school, I'm still going to pay for as much as I can.
	Of course, I expect them to make as much money as possible so they can support their own endeavor towards college.
	But I'm not like the last thing I want to do is have my teenager pay off loans for as long as I did or as long as their mother did.
	We're still paying off her loans.
	So I totally agree.
	I'm just saying it's actually, it's probably better for them.
	I think you're helping them more if you just teach them to be smart with money versus just giving them money.
	Yeah, of course.
	Of course.
	I think something, and this is going to bring up our favorite uncle, an observation he makes about the like wage.
	Uncle Clarence.
	Yeah.
	Uncle Clarence Thomas, get on to Gibbs.
	She no, but he talks about like the debt wage cycle or like the poor workman cycle, right?
	Where you get paid and because you don't have anything, you spend most of your time poor, wanting good things.
	So as soon as you have money, you go out.
	You blow it all.
	Dude, you blow it all.
	That part of Mein Konf hit me big time.
	So like growing up, you know, we I wasn't, we weren't like super poor.
	I mean, money was tight, but I wasn't wearing clothes from like Goodwill.
	I at least had clothing that was mine.
	But like I didn't have a lot of things, you know, we weren't going on nice vacations every year and like doing some of the stuff or I didn't have all the things that other kids had.
	So I was wanting for a lot.
	And that really like messed me up growing up because then I got a job at 15 and I made good money.
	I was working at Best Buy actually making like $14 an hour as a teenager.
	Damn.
	Yeah.
	And I wasted all of it because as soon as I had access to money, even though my mom is really good with money, because I'd grown up like wanting for things so much, I had access to the internet and I made a lot of money or a relatively large amount of money.
	And so I just wasted all of it because I was wanting for things.
	And like that, it was a hard lesson for me to learn of like control yourself.
	And like I'm good with money now, at least, but it took a lot of dicking around and like going through the poor get paid cycle.
	It always drove me nuts growing up.
	And I grew up middle class, upper middle class, somewhere in the middle class, not wealthy, not poor.
	And there were kids who I knew came from families that their houses were pretty rough around the edges, but they were always regaling us with, I believe, honest tales about, you know, all the stuff that they got from their parents and kids from crappy houses driving new cars to high school that their parents bought them.
	And I'm looking over at my parents, like, why am I driving this 88 Plymouth Reliant here, mom and dad?
	And yeah, looking back on that, I think I respect them for their limited, you know, spoiling growing up and being like, oh, yeah, you want to have a car here?
	Have this like, you know, real junker that's a used one.
	And no, we're not getting you the boombox that you want, et cetera.
	So, yeah, again, the fine line.
	How about it breaks my heart?
	I'm just thinking about our young brood and them growing up and moving far away to pursue their dreams or whatever.
	Like, do you encourage your kids to stay close to home or is that just something that's so impossible to do based on their desires?
	I mean, I would love to be within, you know, no more than an hour from them, and especially when they have kids, these grandparents who never see their kids except for like Christmas or maybe a birthday here or there.
	It's sad stuff, but you have to let them flee the flee the floor.
	Unfortunately, that's just kind of the way of things.
	You might have one of the children or maybe more than one that is thoughtful and always thinks to every few days or once or twice a week, call, give dear old mom and dad a call, you know, and see how they're doing or stop by and things like that.
	But it's just sort of, you know, it's just life.
	I mean, I live 10 blocks from my mother and I'm not really good with that either myself.
	And not all of my kids are very good about keeping in touch and things like that.
	I don't know what to say about that.
	It's just kind of the way it goes.
	And you would hope that people kind of, as life goes on, you start to think about it.
	And I've done it more myself.
	Like, well, I should give my mother a call or go visit her, you know.
	And, you know, it's just about being conscientious and things like that.
	Moving away is dumb.
	Yeah.
	As somebody that lived in Europe for three years and then 10 hours away from my parents' house for another three years, moving is stupid.
	It was for me in particular, it was good, you know, because I was in the military and I knew that ultimately I was always going to return home.
	So I'd say a temporary departure is not a bad thing.
	You can learn a lot.
	I just want to be young and travel and get murdered in a foreign country because I'm a stupid white girl.
	But no, seriously, traveling is good and I think you can learn a lot and people need to live on their own to make it on their own.
	But ultimately, you're going to want help, especially when it comes time for family building, house buying, and things like that.
	Yeah, that's an important point there.
	You know, when you're having even just, I shouldn't say like that, just a few kids, you know, it's hard.
	It's hard on the wife and the husband a lot of times is away and all that.
	And the wife can feel overwhelmed and say to herself, oh, how could I have yet another child after this?
	And the thing is, it's not supposed to be like that.
	There's supposed to be sisters and aunts and mother and mother-in-law.
	And there's supposed to be a whole bunch of people coming around to help you.
	And that's like what you're talking about.
	Moving away is not necessarily good.
	In fact, you could probably say it's bad.
	But this is the community destroying dynamic we have in this society is that we're all supposed to act like we're by ourselves and that's just not how mankind is supposed to be.
	Yep.
	And if you need to leave your crappy manufactured cookie cutter suburb and go live in a crappy cookie cutter suburb eight hours away where you don't know anybody and you have to live in this crappy housing development working or an apartment working at a job that pays you shit so that you can get replaced by an Indian in six months.
	Yep.
	And then be destitute.
	And then you go back home to mama.
	You see, and a lot of people.
	Then you get hooked on opiates and die.
	Small rural white towns, you look around and you recognize everywhere from the gravestones to the small stores to everything else.
	And you see a lot of the same last names pop up.
	It's a beautiful thing when you recognize it.
	I never noticed it until I started paying attention.
	I was like, huh, you know, like all these people know each other.
	They're related, either distantly or close.
	And that is a, it's, it's not just a healthy, happy thing, but it's a powerful thing too.
	Very valuable.
	As we talk, yeah, talk about the system collapsing or oppressing us.
	Yeah, you want as many blood relations as possible on good terms as possible.
	The meme in America of like the family feuds and nobody gets along and this or that person has beef with the other.
	Unfortunately, there's a lot of truth to it.
	And that's just our like self-indulgent and our ability to run away from arguments and quarrels that we have.
	And just, okay, yeah, talk to them.
	People stop talking to each other over the dumbest things.
	Right.
	So they don't need to do it.
	Yeah.
	It's easy to do.
	It's like Coach is saying, it's easy to run away from that stuff.
	And the culture in our society really pushes it on people.
	Like, you know, I don't know about you guys, but I know a lot of people probably listening, a lot of people out there live in towns that they consider to be either small or lame or not exciting.
	And I was one of those people.
	And as soon as I could, I left my town.
	I left the state I lived in.
	I left the region I grew up in.
	And I chased, you know, a glamorous life in glamorous places trying to do really cool jobs.
	And I guess the best way to sum it up is empty careerism is really what my philosophy in life was, if I was being honest with myself.
	And I've had all kinds of ways to justify it to myself.
	And of course, everything in the culture tells you, get out of your little small town, run away, go be atomized, go be a selfish brat and leave your family.
	And I regret that very, very much.
	Well, don't you dare have kids.
	People tend to move away just to get established in their career.
	And then once they start to have the kids, that's when they want to move back home.
	And I don't think there's a problem with that.
	You know, if you just need to get out for a couple years and get established.
	But yeah, no, I definitely think people should be moving back towards family.
	And even in the case of if you had to move back in with your parents, I feel like there's much less of a stigma if you're married or you have kids and you move back with your parents, because then it's more like, oh, they're helping us, but we're helping them.
	Versus if you're just a single guy still living at home with mom, then people think you're a loser.
	Yeah.
	Well, a big part of all this is just even recognizing it, right?
	Think of in your own lives where you came to the realization of the bigger importance of things.
	So that's the first importance.
	Yeah.
	And if you're if you're living a life where you're lying to yourself constantly, you're not going to recognize anything.
	You're going, you can, you, like, and that's, and that's why, you know, you said that, uh, Jim, you said that, you know, moving away is not a, there's not a problem with that.
	The problem with it is that it's, it is, it allows you to continue to do that.
	Like if you can get, if you're disciplined, which a lot of people just aren't, and I wasn't, you could get away with, you know, I'll do this for a couple of years, then I know I'm going to move home to have my kids and all that stuff.
	But then once you're out, you can make a million excuses in the world to stay in your job or not move or move to someplace else, chase a better job in a better city and really start all over there.
	Because again, you wipe the slate clean every time you do that.
	I moved around a ton.
	It's expensive.
	I can't tell you how many times I bought all new furniture.
	I had friends, you know, a couple of times were like, you know, I would treat my furniture like shit.
	I'm like, man.
	And they were like, what are you doing?
	You got a nice couch.
	I'm like, brother, all this shit is replaceable because it always was.
	And it always got replaced.
	You know, people look at me.
	I had a moment of pure bliss today because, but the three kids, different ages, eight, five, two, whatever it is, doesn't matter, but that's the rough breakdown.
	Of course, I know what their ages are.
	And they were playing perfectly, all three of them in unison with junior sort of taking the lead and daughter doing the girl thing and then potato sort of toddling around and pretending to be a big kid with them.
	And it was so wonderful that it's sort of what spurred this question, even though we had it in the hopper for a couple of weeks.
	And I just thought my ideal scenario would be for them to be able to pursue their dreams as gay as that is.
	Now we're already like, you know, having conversations about what makes sense and their expectations, but to have them at least live in the same state, ideally the same county, even if it's the same town.
	I don't know if I want to live next door to my kids their entire lives and they probably won't feel the same way.
	But just have them close enough so that we can have regular interaction and that you can pay them with time and babysitting and continued advice as opposed to just a phone call on the weekend or a visit here and there.
	Now, that's not, of course, going to be my call entirely.
	And if they have true dreams that they want to pursue that do require being somewhere, then that's the way it's going to fall and it's going to make me sad.
	But I'm going to try to steer the ship toward keeping my brood close to me and the mother hen.
	Well, the ideal scenario is to just be like Warren Jeff's and have other kids in your control.
	Or yeah, just be a Jewish fertility doctor.
	And that way you're distributing your own seed to like every woman who comes in.
	Then anywhere you go in the world, you can be like, oh, I am near my children.
	I said it in the con pillow.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I said it in the chat, but I'm about 45 minutes away from my parents.
	And I love my parents, but 45 minutes seems to be the perfect distance because it's like, hey, I need you right now.
	And I can be there or they can be here.
	Or, hey, what are you doing?
	We want to come up for dinner.
	So we get to see them.
	And we're available either way when somebody needs something, but we don't see them too often.
	45 minutes is great.
	Yep.
	And it's an easy 45 minutes.
	It's not like 45 minutes sitting in traffic going through a city.
	They don't live in the city.
	I don't live in the city.
	It's highway and country road to each other's houses.
	It's perfect.
	Yep.
	Amen.
	Happy, happy medium there.
	All right, gentlemen.
	I'm looking at the ticker and we got to go to work tomorrow.
	We've been going for two hours, 15.
	And I think we did justice to that question at least in the second half.
	Got a great one from a longtime listener about the hazards of being dissident parents and the some uh-oh oh no, did we just lose coach engagement?
	Oh no, opinions.
	There he is.
	Oh, did I did I dropped out start over?
	Sorry, start over from the beginning of the question.
	That's a good, that's a good sign for me to inch toward the door here.
	All right, get to sleep.
	But what I was teasing was that we got an awesome, difficult question that I'm going to tease up for the next show.
	But it's basically, you know, as dissident parents, I'm saying one group of people at another, and what that impact is on your kids, your kids seeing you being somewhat dishonest about politics or anything else out in the wild versus at home with the more candidates.
	Yeah.
	Well, don't, yeah, don't if we want to do a quick one here.
	Don't lie.
	I mean, you don't have to get crazy, but don't lie.
	Just don't say shit, you know?
	Yeah.
	But anyway, they can see me when somebody calls me on the phone and it's like, did you get your ballot?
	And then they can hear me go, I don't vote for Jew lovers.
	Well, I'm sure there's a lot of parents out there listening who maybe have a sock name and their kids may see it and they're like, is that, you know, it's the Meadow Soprano.
	Dad, do you have a sock on Twitter?
	Yeah, Dad, I found your Twitter account.
	Dad, I found your D Live.
	Dad, do you have a racist podcast?
	Psyche EJ.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Anyway, big shout out to the D Live audience.
	Thank you for sticking with us for as long as you have.
	I know that we droned a little bit on the election, pre-mortem, post-mortem, but we're learning and growing as dad's podcasters and newbie live streamers.
	So we salute you.
	Thank you, Grifters.
	Yes, exactly.
	I've literally never been on a podcast.
	It did all right, pal.
	We'll have you back.
	Good job.
	Yeah, best to your family.
	Thank you for the lemons, ice creams, Lamborghinis, and everything else.
	We humble lemon farmers here at Full House.
	All right.
	Mr. Producer, thank you, buddy, for joining us.
	You got it.
	The one thing I want to leave everybody with is Mitch Hoobe had probably the funniest thing I've seen all day today.
	It was the capture of Richard Spencer getting punched in the head, and it said both of these men voted for the same candidate.
	I thought that was great.
	Powerful.
	Thanks for having me on, guys.
	It's always a pleasure to work with you guys and yeah.
	All right.
	Everything's falling apart.
	Yeah, I'm glitching.
	All right.
	Sam, thank you.
	Thank you, coach.
	Great show.
	Bless you and the family.
	Smasher, thank you too.
	Of course.
	Thanks for having me.
	Despite continuous disappointments.
	Not at all.
	Yeah, we're even going to blame you for the glitching, you face fag.
	All right.
	And general manager, GM.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Great job.
	First time podcast.
	Honored to be on the show.
	Thanks.
	You bet.
	All right.
	To the audience, we thank you.
	And if you are a parent, an expectant parent, or looking to get in the game and you are anxious as hell about what's going on out there, we salute you.
	Full House episode 68 was taped on a pretty warm, beautiful November 5th, now November 6th, 2020.
	You know where to find us.
	Add D Live to our expanding list of URLs and stuff and Twitter and all the rest of it.
	We'll put it in the show notes.
	We'll get this puppy up quickly to keep it fresh.
	And stay tuned for next week.
	We'll probably go back to our regular one-week thing.
	And then I think we'll do the live stream thing if there's something urgent that we need to talk about and add value to the conversation.
	So we love you, fam, and we will talk to you next week.
	No closing music because we're live streaming and we want to get this puppy up.
	Go ahead, Smasher.
	Do the bus.
	See ya.
	Thanks, everybody.

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