Full Haus - 20201027_Calm_Before_the_Storm

Oct. 27, 2020 - Full Haus

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	It's the calm before the storm.
	Just over one week to go until the national bacchanal of perceived self-importance, the election.
	Mr. Producer and I think Biden's got it in the bag.
	Smasher thinks Trump pulls another rabbit out of his hat.
	Sam is on the fence, maybe wearing one of his thongs.
	And Joe is checked out.
	And what a difference four years makes.
	This time in 2016, our side was in a veritable frenzy of propagandizing and IRL activism to pull off the political heists of the century.
	But after the litany of disappointments and outright betrayals of this administration, most of us are sitting on our hands this go-round, resigned to maybe drinking bittersweet liberal tears, but either way, continuing to steal ourselves and our families for new depths of anti-white censorship, violence, and outright oppression.
	All right, the gang is assembled.
	We have the dynamic dog himself, Borzoi, back for his second full house appearance, and we're rearing to go.
	Mr. Producer, put up the bat signal.
	Welcome, everyone, to episode 66 of Full House, the world's most encouraging show for white fathers, aspiring ones, and the whole biofam.
	I am your heartwarmed host, Coach Finstock.
	That's right, it's my lovely daughter's birthday today, and we had a delightful family dinner just a few hours ago.
	I looked around the table and smiled and was grateful for everything that we have.
	And we are back with another two hours of authoritative commentary on the passing scene.
	Before we meet the birth panel, though, massive gratitude to our donors this week.
	First, to our Mandolin Maestro from last week, thank you so much.
	He gave us a generous donation.
	It was not a pay-for-play instrument scheme, we promise you.
	He's listened to the show for a long time and said that was on his to-do list.
	So thanks again, buddy.
	To our pal D, thank you so much for keeping us in mind.
	And to Jeff.
	And to Jeff from Kentucky, we salute you too.
	He wrote, keep up the great work, guys.
	Your show really helps get through the hard times.
	Jeff, the hard times have not yet even begun, but we know exactly what you mean, and we thank you for that.
	And with that, let's get on to the birth panel.
	First up, when he's not sitting on fences and thongs and getting gay letters from our fans, he's working hard, playing hard, and loving hard.
	That's right.
	Sam, thanks for always making time for us.
	Thanks, Coach.
	Excellent intro, as always.
	It's great to be here.
	Yeah, the fan mail is very touching and interesting.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, it's, you know, we keep tabs on the metrics, which continue to go up.
	Big line goes up.
	But the true metric that really warms my heart is the volume of correspondence.
	Yeah.
	Thanks.
	And people, you know, I really bless them for being willing to open up about problems in their lives, depression, fertility, all the rest of it.
	So, it means the world to us that they're willing to reach out and we'll keep working.
	We got a bunch of good audience questions that I think we'll do in the second half after we milk Borzoi appropriately, of course.
	Excellent.
	Next up, he may be handicapped in more ways than one, but he's still always down for fun.
	Back into the Finstock salt mines, you go next week, buddy.
	I hear.
	How the hell are you holding up?
	Potato Smasher.
	What up, Family Lamb?
	That's all I got.
	All right.
	Is that how do you milk a Borzoi?
	Come here and I'll show you.
	All right.
	You got to catch it first.
	Very good.
	Is that one of yours, Stern in the background there, Smasher?
	Oh, yeah.
	That's why I've been muted.
	Yeah.
	How's the hand?
	Seriously?
	It's coming along.
	It's still in a cast, as you know.
	And it's just kind of doing its thing, and I can't see it.
	So I do have a doctor's appointment tomorrow.
	So I will hopefully get an update then.
	I'm hoping they cut off the cast and take the stitches out and then they're going to recast it again.
	I'm going to be in a cast for another five weeks from tomorrow.
	Have you ever had a cast removed before?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I broke up.
	It's the worst smell ever.
	Oh, yeah, it is.
	This has only been on for like two weeks, though.
	So it shouldn't be that bad.
	But I had a cast on for a few months.
	I broke my ankle in junior high, and I had a leg cast on for a long time, and that stunk bad.
	Yeah, take it easy there, pal.
	You know, don't you're a headstrong guy, so we want you healed back up and in fighting shape as soon as possible.
	Well, next up, there is only one human alive who farts harder and louder and with more pride than he does, and that's his son.
	Joe, we love your occasional homegrown tales from Fatherhood.
	No, I thought he, like, I don't know, knocked something off a table or like I don't know, knocked the table over or something.
	I had no idea what that sound was until he followed it up with another one.
	It sounded like it sounded like someone hit a piece of wood with another piece of wood.
	Did he know that he did it?
	Did he have a little pride or surprise?
	No, no.
	He's like, no, that was light work.
	Good stuff.
	Welcome back, J.O. Thank you.
	And finally, our special guest this evening.
	He only does two things: create content and make love.
	And one of those things is about to pay him a dividend.
	He is the paladin of podcasts, the connoisseur of Kino, and also a proud, expectant father.
	Borzoi, welcome back.
	Hey, as I recall, the last time I was on the show was earlier this year, and I said I was very optimistic about this year.
	Well, that even that was underselling what I thought was going to happen.
	I did not think, did I expect it to happen this quickly?
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	It's great to see you.
	You look good.
	We did get a glimpse of your lovely wife a few moments ago.
	She looks wonderful too.
	And we're in the Tradboy Vocab dress now.
	Yeah, I know.
	It was perfect.
	You got a cozy house there.
	I see the address written right over there.
	It's one Noah.
	But yeah, buddies.
	So you were not married and you weren't even expecting one the last time you came on, but you had a feeling it was coming.
	So a little backstory for the audience.
	I guess, how did you, how did you snag this lovely lady?
	And yeah, the conception.
	And I think the reason I'm trying to remember the timeline on all this.
	I think the reason why I told you earlier this year that I was optimistic was because I was already talking to her at that point.
	I forget the exact timing on when she first contacted.
	I remember exactly when we started meeting up, but when she first contacted me, I can't remember the exact timeline on all that compared to when I was doing the on the show.
	But basically, the long and short of it is that she kind of stumbled upon my blog and just had managed to find some contact information.
	That was the Race Boars website.
	She managed to find some, after doing a little bit of detective work, managed to find some contact information that she could contact me at.
	She didn't really know anything else.
	She knew my American Son articles.
	And she didn't really, the other stuff she wasn't interested in.
	She's just not really a political person, but she is very interested in history and literature and culture and all of that.
	So she reaches out to me and we just start talking.
	I vet her to make sure she, she was very, very kind in her emails.
	But I had to make sure this sounds like a honeypot.
	Later, I had to explain to her what a honeypot was because she didn't really understand why I was so hesitant and weird about her emails at first as well.
	There are people who would probably like to honeypot me.
	That's right.
	That's happened to guys before.
	Yep.
	The attempts have been made.
	I could tell some stories, but I don't want to give the game away, but just stay vigilant out there, friends.
	Careful out there, lads.
	Yeah, in Borzoi's case, his wife showed up outside of his door in a trench coat with the boombox plague Peter Gabriel.
	So that's a pretty good sign that she was sincere about it.
	And also for the audience, too, I mean, if a small Asian man can get a beautiful wife, get married and have a kid on the way very quickly like that, then you can too, dear listener.
	No.
	All suicidal depressives can contribute to that part.
	Well, what tipped me off that?
	Yeah, no, that's a pretty funny inside story there.
	But what tipped me off that she wasn't a honeypot was the amount she wrote and how sincere she was.
	I thought, I don't, this could just be me like really wanting this to be true, but I don't think, I don't think my enemies would put this much effort into it.
	This is, this is something that somebody took a lot of care and a lot of, a lot of emotion to put into.
	So we ended up setting up.
	I wanted to go, I was doing a road trip anyway.
	So I said, hey, you told me where you live.
	You mind if I swing by?
	And how it all, well, I crashed on the way to go see her.
	Hands wet on the wheel, quivering with excitement and enterprise.
	Two hours outside of where she lived.
	Can you come pick me up?
	Well, yeah, and she didn't know my actual name at the time either.
	So it's like, hey, I'm in this accident.
	I don't know if I'm okay or not.
	I should at least tell you what my name is just in case some questions arise.
	This is like when JO said about how, like, if even if you're a great musician, like it's one in a million that you get discovered, right?
	So I don't want the audience to think, oh, I'll just create like a thousand podcasts and then women will throw themselves at me, right?
	This is this is a unique story.
	Remember back when Borzoi was the intern on the fatherland and the only times they would let him talk was to tell a disastrous dating story.
	We've been following this kid's mess of a love life for years.
	So it's just so cool to hear that, you know, things have worked out for you, man.
	That's true.
	But I mean, that's people who think, who might think, well, Borzoi is a suicidal depressive.
	Why does he?
	I worked hard to get to, like, I, I had to, I had to keep swinging, you know, taking every taking every swing I could to find somebody and do put the work in.
	I had to meet, and to be honest, and she fell in love with me because of the passion I had for the work that I do in terms of literature and history and all that.
	She's a very educated woman, a very cultured woman, and that's what she wanted in a man.
	Hey, abuse.
	Sorry, Chad, but in real life, the suicidal depressive gets the girl.
	Unironically, the suicidal depressive intellectual gets the girl.
	Hey, I've always, art hoes have always liked me, but I got myself an art housewife instead.
	And she listens to Full House you shared too.
	So, yeah, that's great.
	Rosa was like, well, no, I don't really want to come on the show, but my wife wants me to come on the show.
	Like I said, she doesn't understand all this stuff.
	And she saw like, this shows about like the show's about fatherhood.
	You should go on that.
	All right.
	There you go.
	She's great.
	Congratulations, buddy.
	Over the moon for you.
	And you look, yeah, you look as happy as you sound.
	So a victory for our side.
	Don't screw it up now.
	And yeah, let us know, were you trying?
	Was it an accident?
	I know the chats like, it's never an accident.
	You're always trying to conceive.
	Well, no, this is why I want to tell the whole story because it's an interesting.
	I mean, maybe I'm just more just enamored with the life I live, but I think it's an interesting story.
	So she ends up coming up when I was living.
	We don't live in Michigan anymore, but she ended up staying with me in Michigan for a while when the lockdown stuff was going on because her job allowed her to basically work wherever she wanted to.
	So it worked out that way where she had a lot of flexibility to move around.
	So we did that to see, well, I mean, we had just met this thing had become like a whirlwind.
	We wanted to make sure, like, well, I'm, you know, I want to settle down, have kids.
	What do you want?
	I'm not here to play around or anything like that.
	So we want to make sure we were on the same page.
	So then we stayed together a little bit.
	And then when we decided, okay, we're going to move in together and get our own place and all that.
	Let's do this.
	Let's build a life together.
	She had, she has medical issues that precluded her from, she wouldn't have been able to get pregnant if she wanted to, unless she wouldn't took care, like had to get something, get something removed that would basically allow her to get pregnant.
	It was basically like a hormone regulation type thing that she needed to get removed.
	And her doctor told her, well, her doctor had told her years ago, when you're ready to have kids, I'll remove this, but there's some stuff you need to understand.
	So she gets it removed and her doctor told her, it's going to probably take about a year before you can get pregnant because your body needs to adjust now to not having this device, this thing inside.
	And she was pregnant within two weeks.
	So it was totally different.
	So the plan was always to get pregnant.
	We just thought we had more time.
	Sure.
	Because the plan was we were going to get married and then the baby would come.
	But yeah, that the sweet failed there.
	We just got married right away.
	And just because we were going to do it anyways, we literally saw no reason not to.
	And because of all the COVID lockdown stuff, that just throws, like, makes anything impossible to plan ahead of time.
	We just decided to.
	What are you going to do?
	Have a big wedding and like wait out COVID, wait until your kid's already here.
	And I don't want my, I don't want my child to be born out of wedlock.
	So a good excuse, yeah, to keep things simple and de minimis right these days, make, make lemonade out of lemons.
	What was your, what were your emotions like when you found out?
	Obviously surprised, but what I was shocked more than answered because I had not at least a year before.
	But I was overjoyed.
	I was very happy.
	I always knew I'd once I had spent enough time with her, I knew I was going to be having kids with this woman.
	So I was just, I was just very happy, but it was more, especially when, because I was at work during a meeting when she called me to tell me because, and she kept blowing up my phone.
	And I thought, oh my God, something horrible must have happened because she knows that she knows that I'll usually call her back if she if she calls me, but she was calling me over and over again.
	So I was worried.
	So I walked away.
	She's like, she supports are impregnant.
	That's awesome, man.
	All right.
	And roughly, how far along or when are you expecting the bundle of joy?
	I believe sometime in spring.
	Okay.
	Sometime around, I don't want to just for obstacle reasons.
	Would you say March, April, May.
	We'll say that spring is fine.
	Yeah.
	And so you don't know what it is yet.
	And are you going to find out the sex in advance?
	She wants to when the baby's born.
	All right.
	Very good for you.
	We've seen the ultrasound though, the baby.
	He's, well, we keep saying he, we don't actually know, but he's, he's swimming around.
	He's got a big brain.
	He likes to wave, jump around.
	He's having a good, he's having a good old time in there, about the size of the size of now.
	Last time it was two strawberries.
	She's got this tracker that gives a food comparison sizes.
	I have one of those and I even change my Facebook profile picture every week to whatever size he updated to.
	I remember that.
	Yeah, so he's advanced beyond two strawberries, but I'm not sure what it is.
	And one thing I haven't mentioned yet is that we were already starting to get this menagerie of animals up in our place before she got pregnant.
	So now currently she's pregnant.
	We've got cats, a hedgehog, and a dog now.
	It's a bit of a madhouse in here.
	The start of the happy house.
	Yeah.
	Awesome.
	All right.
	And so obviously this is your first child that you know of.
	What is what's going through your head?
	Are you worried about the diapers, the material concerns?
	No, because it's funny watching her because she's like trying to plan out the baby the next 10 years of the baby's life.
	And I'm the one that's just like, it's the first couple of months, the baby's just going to kind of exist.
	I come from a large family.
	I have siblings, but siblings.
	I have cousins.
	I have second cousins.
	I have third cousins I've known.
	So I'm used to being around babies.
	And I used to help out with cousins and siblings in terms of the changing and all that.
	None of that is.
	It's been a while.
	One thing I try and tell everybody is all of this like warning and panic crap.
	It's all crap.
	It's all crap.
	I think a lot of it is just people like thinking it's funny to try and get up under your skin, but I also think it makes them feel like they are accomplished to make it sound like, I don't know, changing diapers is a nightmare.
	You know, like, oh, I've been through it.
	You know, I'm, I'm a real vet out here because I had to get up in the middle of the night to make a bottle here and there.
	And I had to change stinky poopy diapers.
	None of it's that bad.
	Don't let anyone.
	No, and I know for a fact it's not that bad because I'm the oldest in a in a extremely expansive family and I've been around all I've seen the little ones all across the family and all and that actually also puts me because even though we moved out of Michigan, I'm still not far from my family.
	It's they're an hour drive basically.
	It's not a big deal.
	I have my family spread out pretty far around the kind of the general Midwest region.
	So it's really easy to.
	How'd they all respond?
	Oh, they're happy.
	I mean, mom gets to be grandma.
	She's very excited about that.
	It's like, he's really not a queer.
	Wow.
	How long have you been sitting on that one, Joe?
	I've used it three or four times.
	He's got a whole arsenal there.
	Yeah.
	No, but the Russian grandma is very excited to finally be a great grandma.
	She's been pestering me about that for about 15 years, I think now.
	No, 10 years, 10 years.
	Yeah, in terms of the anxieties, I mean, you're absolutely right.
	Yeah, there's going to be a little bit of sleep depression or sleep deprivation, no sleep depression, and a little bit of stress added, but especially just with one when you just have that one bundle of joy to focus your energies and love on.
	I'm more worried about mom, to be honest, my wife, just because I don't want her to overextend herself or have anything happen, make sure she's healthy and that there's not going to be any issues.
	She takes extremely good care of herself.
	So I'm not really worried about that, but I don't want her to stress out.
	So for me, it's more important that I'm kind of the rock and that when she's stressed out, I'm calm and can respond to the situation.
	Well, the thing there is when you when you have a baby, no one is supposed to just do this on their own.
	No new mother is supposed to be recovering from childbirth and then having to worry about the diapers and the taking care of this and that and cooking and cleaning and all that.
	You should have family.
	Like you say, you have family nearby and I hope that they will pitch in.
	You know, there should be sisters or nieces or aunts or the mother and things like that.
	Like these guys and their wives.
	I know for a fact, my mother and some of my other, some of the other female relatives, my family are probably going to, there's enough people that they can kind of, anyways, they'll be staying closer to us.
	I know that for a fact.
	Yeah, sometimes that's the biggest stress when you have all your family visiting and you're like, can I just get some alone time with my wife and my new baby?
	My wife, when she was pregnant, she said, and this is to your wife's possible anxieties, having her first, she said, if I had not got, now, this is not medical advice, don't skip your OBGYN appointments, ladies.
	But she said, if I hadn't gone to any of those pre-checks and sonograms and, oh, this data looks a little bit off or that, she said, I would have been fine.
	Just let me be pregnant.
	Go deliver the baby with no stress because a lot of times those checkups will add anxieties to her.
	Yeah, they will.
	Sure.
	Well, one of the best things that's happened so far has been, so we have a midwife that is because we're going to do a home birth.
	And my family was a little bit skeptical when they heard about it, but they went and looked into it and actually met the midwife themselves.
	And they're, okay, you know what?
	This seems like really, especially after I have, I have some relatives that are also having babies as well.
	And they're just having all kinds of issues with the hospitals right now.
	And after encountering the midwife and how they're going about it, they're pretty okay with what we're doing.
	I think I might have already told this story on the show, but there was one guy that had a baby recently.
	And him and his wife are in there and she takes her mask off and they were like, we need you to put your masks back on.
	And she says, no, what are you going to do about it?
	You're going to throw me out?
	Like, I'm in labor.
	I don't need to wear a mask while I'm in labor.
	And they just kind of let it go.
	Imagine that.
	Yeah.
	Especially with breathing being so important during that.
	Yeah.
	I got a COVID test while I was in the hospital.
	I didn't know that because I was passed out when they did it.
	And I got the results in the mail.
	I'm COVID free.
	For now.
	For now?
	Yeah, not with that idea.
	I'm trying.
	You weren't able to inject you at the gay yet.
	Yeah.
	He's already got that.
	But why the home birth, Borzoi?
	Because we're basically a synthesis of trad calfs and hippies, and it just makes a lot of sense.
	Well, that's my beef with the whole midwife thing or doula thing.
	It's not the concept of it, it's the hippie-dippy people that choose that profession.
	Like, I feel like you might have a hard time finding a midwife who isn't going to start trying to like tell you about crystals and essential oils.
	No, no, we're we managed to avoid that.
	In fact, actually, the circumcision came up during it, and they the midwife is against it and was very happy to hear that I was not gonna, that I was that we're not circumcising the child.
	Cool if it's a boy, do it the traditional way and just have a rabbi bite it off, Borzoi.
	Before we move on, I see you have a couple, you have a very cozy uh studio there.
	Kudos to you for that.
	I see, uh, I see Yaqui on the wall behind you.
	Oh, yeah, the wall of Chad's.
	Who else do you have on the wall?
	All right.
	Um, let me pull up the so that I can see what we're looking at here.
	So I can well, yeah, it's up to you.
	No, that's fine.
	I just he's got he's got Pee Wee Hermit on there.
	We don't have to talk about it.
	Quebec flag up there.
	Quebec flag.
	Nice.
	So, okay.
	That from, I guess, right, would be Dominic Venner.
	Yeah.
	And then next to him is Michelle Welbeck.
	And then there's Jonathan Bowden next to him.
	D.H. Lawrence, Penti Lincoln, Ernst Junger, and G.K. Chesterton at the end there.
	And going down to the next row, we have Francis Parker Yaqui, H.L. Mencken, Shelby Foote.
	And below Yaqui is J.R.R. Tolkien.
	There's on the other side of the bookcase, we have a Roger Spruden, and then there's a niche right here up here.
	Oh, man.
	That's awesome.
	I always started doing something similar, man.
	Yeah, I thought about doing that back in the day, but I never did it low agency.
	But when I started thinking about it, I was still on the reservation essentially.
	And I was like, yeah, I'm going to put up Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher and like Ronald Reagan.
	Oh, man.
	Thank God you didn't.
	You wouldn't have a house.
	Cringe.
	You've invited me over here.
	Cringe, coach.
	Yeah, I know.
	Smash that wall.
	All right, Borzoi.
	I think we did service to your expectant status.
	And congratulations again.
	Good luck.
	You make a great dad.
	And it's wonderful, too, that you have the family that's close enough to help you.
	Yeah, I think she's very optimistic as well because of the way that I've been dealing with the dog as well.
	Because we got a puppy.
	So it's not a, we didn't get an only dog.
	We got an actual puppy.
	So there's a lot of rearing and training involved.
	And she's got me into trouble, dude, because my wife wants to duck.
	Borzoi got his wife a puppy.
	No, no, no, no.
	Borzoi's wife got herself a puppy.
	Yeah.
	Well, you're about to welcome new life into the world.
	And a lot of maybe our guys out there are just people in general.
	Like, well, the world is so screwed up.
	You know, like it seems a little cruel to welcome to willingly add new life to the world, which, of course, we are the antithesis of that sentiment here, which is that we.
	Yeah.
	Have you considered not being a nihilistic faggot?
	Yeah.
	This is exactly new white life is exactly why we hold our beliefs and fight for them and refuse to bend the knee.
	But I was privileged to be on a call that was sort of a debate, sort of a chat the other day.
	And it was fascinating.
	It was about what does it mean to be an American?
	And it was a little bit of Civnet versus Wignet doesn't do it justice, but a little bit of classic Americana embracing the flag and the founders and what they mean, at least in our minds, versus doing something new and doing away with this American project that has pretty clearly failed or is at least a zombie status right now.
	And you have talked about in the past American futurism.
	I know it's a big idea and body of work, but especially with, you know, you're first on the way, what is it?
	What do you mean by American futurism?
	And what, if you could, it's a tough task to distill your thinking on either what we should be doing or what kind of system society we're aiming for.
	Just a software for American futurism is kind of a synthesis of a number of different things, most of the stuff I've been talking about.
	The origin of the phraseology on that is actually Nick Mason, because I talk to Nick a lot.
	And he's, of all the people who's probably in this thing that's probably had the most impact on my thinking in terms of the people I've talked to, it's probably been Nick.
	And he called himself one day an American futurist.
	And he didn't really have much of an explanation for it other than it's to him, it's synonymous with Aryan futurism.
	But the way he explained to me is that there's nothing about the past he wouldn't burn down in order to secure a better future.
	He's not, even stuff we like, like whether it's national socialism, fascism, whatever, like he's, he obviously will always praise the stuff that he enjoys, but there's nothing he's willing to be attached to if it means having to be mired in the past and preventing us from making any steps forward.
	Nick, despite not being a religious person, has a very, I think, spiritual view of this stuff.
	And so that got me thinking, though, on this idea of American futurism, because we've been doing these deep dives on American history.
	And I get frustrated when people do a have a dichotomy that I think I don't think that manages work where we have to praise the founding fathers or say Falcon America.
	Sorry, I forgot to say, screw America.
	This is, you know, it's poisoned from the start.
	Well, you have to look at these things in terms of, and when you understand the history of it, that yes, look at, read Charles Beard's The Economic Interpretation of the Constitution, and you see like this country wasn't really built for us.
	And when I say us, it's the yeomanry of the country.
	We were locked into this thing that for the most part, you know, if you have yeomanry ancestors, they were probably against the Constitution.
	They were probably anti-federalists.
	They were probably against a lot of this stuff.
	And then you add in all what immigration has done to this country, even the white immigration, where it's gone from this Protestant construct and to this weird amalgamation now where you have like the common, the common white people are still rather, if they're religious, they're Protestants, but then you have this more upwardly mobile intellectual class of white people who tend to be more Catholic.
	And so America is this country that's, what does it mean to even be an American patriot?
	What does it mean to be an American nationalist?
	It's full of all these confusing contradictions that effectively don't make sense, which is why I understand like why a lot of white nationalists just went to, well, you have to go to the lowest common denominator.
	You have to go to white.
	And that's something I'm actually very sympathetic to.
	But I also understand when people say like, well, white's not enough.
	I agree with that as well.
	So if white's not enough, then you start from that building block and we start fresh from there and we rebuild what it means to be an American, which means maybe there's stuff from the past we do want to tear down.
	Maybe there's stuff we want to rebuild, but that's for us to decide and determine what we shouldn't lock ourselves into, trying to either beholden to what we think the founding fathers would have wanted or to what this conceptualized idea of the past was.
	We have to start from square one as pioneers, as yeomanry, and build it towards the future.
	I guess that would be the best encapsulation of what American futurism is.
	Nice job.
	Yeah, whatever the founders truly had in their minds, whether they were proto-white nationalist, of which I think is a little bit of a reading too much into the early immigration act.
	You know, whatever it was, the project has been warped beyond all recognition while still under the stars and stripes.
	And yeah, and the enemy has so, I believe, co-opted the imagery and the history and demonized so much of it and gotten so much changed that, yeah, my gut says moving forward, you know, the standard line, whatever works is what we should do, even if that, even if we have to swallow our pride a little bit or be a little bit opportunistic, I agree with that.
	But at the same time, it's like, why do you want to take on a historical reclamation project that is probably a bridge too far to go back and claim it all and reform it.
	But you can't unbake a cake.
	And let's say America was a cake, and this is the sort of a second step to the metaphor.
	If you mix a half a pound of crap with a half a pound of cake, you have one pound of crap.
	You can't unmix that.
	And that's what has happened to our country.
	There's a lot about this country and the people in it that I think should be preserved.
	But yeah, I'm not so married to anything that I would sacrifice the future to try and hang on to some kind of piece of the past.
	I also think there's a lot of merit to the idea that a government is like a form of technology.
	And as much as I think the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were excellent technology for the late 1700s, it was from the late 1700s.
	We know a lot more now than we did then, and it should be reflected in how we organize our society.
	And that's where some of the futurist aspect comes in as well, because I'm making an obvious allusion to the futurist movements of the early 20th century.
	In fact, actually, when I talked about when I mentioned it, Mulbug was actually on the Mulbug episode.
	He was actually very confused by what I was talking about in terms, because he was familiar with futurism and he didn't understand what I really meant by American futurism, which, by the way, there was actually small futurist movements within the United States and on the artistic side with artists like Joseph Bella.
	But futurism being this praise of technology and speed and violence and breaking into new past barriers and the like.
	And I think that's, I mean, America being a pioneer land, that's, I would say, within our souls.
	It was, and that's something that has to be recaptured.
	And, but, but because we're seeing the problem of technology, that's where the yeomanry aspect of it comes in.
	Because we might have to go through this salvage society aspect for us for a while because we are locked out of the institutions.
	And if America even, if America undergoes a collapse, it's not going to collapse, is not suddenly you look out your window one day and now all society has just been ruined.
	No, it's going to be bits and pieces and patches.
	Like we're going to, we might find ourselves like recolonizing and doing homesteading in our own ruined urban cities because all the diversity went into the suburbs where people are now congregating and are leaving the cities behind to rot and wither.
	There's a chance for homesteading right there and living in the ruins of these civilizations and patchworking a new type of society and its technique and technology together.
	I mean, these are the aspects of it that go into it.
	There may come a day where we can truly capture what maybe that the best of that 1950s pioneer spirit of going to the stars and the like.
	But for now, we're in the rebuilding period and that involves having to have a future, a forward-looking vision when people got on the ships from Europe to go explore the world.
	They didn't have this mindset that one day, well, there's going to be skyscrapers there.
	No, they went to go and explore and to settle.
	And that's where it begins.
	Sam Smasher, you want to hack on that, or I got questions for Borzo.
	The only way you can get me on board with any type of Americana tied into our ideology is if we take the hit classic real American by British Ferringer.
	And that becomes the new national anthem.
	Oh, yeah.
	And Hulk is driving for us.
	Yeah.
	HH Borger.
	Well, that's actually a great point because, as well, I think one aspect I add into American futurism is we have to appreciate we have to understand and appreciate and pass down what Americana is.
	Because this is where a lot of my frustration actually came from with American nationalists because I focus so heavily on the culture and history aspect.
	I'm not a political wonk.
	I did some dabbling in that, but I've always been more on the culture and history side.
	And you talk to an American nationalist, they don't know anything about the history of this country.
	They don't know anything about the folk songs or the folk tales or anything like that.
	It hasn't been transmitted to them through media, then they don't know what it is.
	I took my name for American sunwriting from Johnny Appleseed.
	His real name was John Chapman.
	He was a real person.
	Most people don't know that, that Johnny Appleseed was an actual person.
	And there's a lot in America's past that is worth preserving, but that's not what American nationalists focus on.
	And if you look at the history of nationalism, the romance of the nation is integral to that.
	And they have no romance for their own nation.
	Yeah, like you say, the Americana.
	I remember when I was little and in school, we were taught to sing all these Americana-type songs, songs from the 1700s, 1800s, maybe early 1900s.
	And yeah, that's all lost now.
	You know, it's sad that we don't have literally like any connection to this country.
	Yeah.
	And so we can't just one day, there's no book we can just pick up that'll make that'll teach it to us because everything's so poison.
	That's why it's kind of that's what's incumbent upon us to refill.
	Because all of this stuff that's like sort of basic and little bits and pieces of Americana and the ways that they were passed down to us, it's all being called racist and toxic and all other stuff now.
	That like I remember picking up stuff like if you're little in the 80s and you're watching a bunch of like children's TV shows, you're learning like Stephen Foster songs from those TV shows.
	So it's this piece of Americana passing down this other piece of Americana in a chain.
	Well, now that chain's been broken.
	You don't have like a root and tootin Yosemite Sam cowboy on a cartoon anymore.
	No, everything cool about America is racist and bad and you don't get to learn about it.
	And everything gay about America is good and you have to love it.
	And it's like the opposite is true.
	We should be gun-toting cowboys singing folk songs.
	Yeah.
	And like redacting, redacted.
	But instead, we're like a bunch of queers in LA redacting booty holes.
	Well, there's also something to be said for like the American spirit.
	Like some people say that American nationalists focus too much on economics or something.
	Chasing paper has always been an American thing.
	That's why all those people left Europe to come over here.
	Yeah.
	A lot of them leave their families behind because like, you know, they were doing okay over there and thought they could do better over here.
	Like most of Europe was terribly poor.
	And by coming over here, instead of two out of your four children surviving to adulthood, six out of eight would, you know, because you could even make more attempts just because the nutrition was better because you were wealthier over here.
	And I will also push back a little bit on that like the yeoman was left out of the formation of America.
	Even if it wasn't made for them, your average man on the street had more rights and more economic opportunity than anyone else on earth.
	That's the problem, though, JO.
	By the time the Constitution was passed, two-thirds of the country could be rightly said to be yeomanry, whether they were artisans or actual yeomen in terms of the landowning small farmer.
	Two-thirds by the time the Constitution passed, what happened?
	What changed?
	That's not the case anymore.
	And it's not that change didn't just suddenly happen after World War II.
	That was a process they were working through, especially during the Industrial Revolution, where they removed all those aspects bit by bit from it.
	And they used the tools that were set up under the Constitution to be able to do that.
	The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
	Beat Bozoi to the Kaczynski reference.
	Theodora Kaczynski.
	Yeah.
	No, this is an important discussion because we've gotten a lot of notes in the past couple of weeks, actually, from regular listeners who say that they do share the show with quote-unquote normies or guys they know who are on the fence.
	And we often forget there are people who are still coming over to our ideas years after we went through these processes earlier last decade.
	And when I first started to become aware of the sins, you could call them that were being committed against this country.
	Of course, they've been going on for a really long time, but they're only now becoming radically manifest.
	At first, I was angry about the 1965 Immigration Act, the stages of acceptance.
	And then when I saw how worse things were getting, I got sad about it and depressed for the state of this country.
	And then at a certain point, when you can only consume so much bad news and be made intentionally to feel powerless and have no influence over this thing, especially after we got helped get Trump into office and he manifestly failed to deliver on his most core promises, then at a certain point, you feel liberation almost as if, you know what, I can, it's sad.
	I was angry about it, but I kind of wash my hands of this ongoing train wreck that is largely dedicated to having my kids be fat, gay, and stupid.
	That is the truest definition of a WigNet.
	I'm always careful.
	I've been using WigNat.
	I've been using WigNet since like early 2017, well before it had this weird meaning on Twitter.
	Well, on Twitter, it means WigNet's just an anti-heterosexual slur on Twitter.
	Yeah.
	Like it's be I mean, we just we do uh we destroy a lot of language, even our own language that we've come up with for the internet.
	Uh, you know, and so somebody on Twitter was talking about the destruction of language today and whatever.
	It doesn't matter, but we do that and we're very guilty of it.
	But it's like words have meaning and we should try to stick to those meanings.
	And that right there is basically like how I have always defined WigNat.
	It's just somebody that kind of realizes this system isn't for me.
	I wash my hands of it.
	I will help destroy the system that wants to destroy me with due process.
	And I will support my people in any way possible as long as it's also anti-system.
	I have just a little bit of put, not pushback on what you're believing.
	I just would wish that everyone be very careful in how they use how they talk about these things, especially in the Black Lives Matter, George Floyd era.
	If you're talking to a new person, if you're talking to someone just coming over, because if they see Antifa and Black Lives Matter in the street screaming, screw America, I hate America.
	And they say, man, those people are nuts.
	Maybe I should go see what these white nationalists have to say.
	And they look over at us and they just see, screw America, I hate America.
	The dreaded horseshoe.
	Yeah.
	Well, they're going to see a horseshoe.
	And from where they're standing, they won't be wrong.
	Right.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	I understand your point, but I'm a Vanguardist.
	So it's, well, if they can't get over it, then that's their problem.
	Speaking of Vanguardist, Borzoya, put you on the spot.
	How do you see things shaking out in this country?
	There's tens of millions of people who are antithetical to what we would consider the good parts of Americana, hate us, want us dead.
	And they're not going anywhere anytime soon.
	Collapse, civil war, secession.
	We all get ground in the dust.
	Glorious National Socialist victory.
	What are you thinking?
	Okay, you're talking about a little bit long term here.
	Well, in the United States proper.
	Here's the key part because this goes to the collapse talk.
	The system, I always say this, if we're talking about the stuff, they're talking about the stuff.
	If we're aware of things, they're aware of things.
	In fact, actually, more often than not, they're more aware than we are because they're the ones that are controlling things.
	So this is a problem I often see with white nationalists as well.
	And this, I think it's from lack of experience and understanding the power structure.
	And this is where some of them get the idea of like, well, I'm going to sneak up on, I could sneak up on the system.
	It's like, no, you can't sneak up on the system.
	But one thing that the big test is like there is going to be, there's been stress tests on the system.
	And they're trying, and I think they're doing some of that intentionally in order to be able to know when they, when it's out of control, that they can keep it under control.
	Because the last thing they need is to have these various collapses that occur throughout the country that they can't control.
	And if they get adept at it, they might be able to have some localized control over it for other purposes in order to shepherd populations around and the like.
	But that's not driving to this.
	What's going to happen?
	The key thing to know is there's going to be a point where enough pressure is going to be put on the system where it can break.
	And then that's where the key question is, is will they be able to respond to that?
	And how well are they going to be able to respond to that?
	Because I think if there's going to be any kind of collapse, it's going to be very localized ones where you're going to see bits and parts of the country that are just fallen into a general anarchy or anarcho-tyranny.
	Or it's been, you have things like illegal immigrants that are being put into the emergency services and they'll have a cartel control over that.
	You're going to see a greater rise of cartels in this country.
	And I think that's for where the strength of white nationals are going to be.
	Or anyone who shares this general view and who shares our general views and understands what's going on.
	It's going to be about building these communities because the communities that can protect each other and get stronger are going to survive.
	Whereas there's going to be this shock, I think, to a lot of white Americans where they realize that they're kind of trapped.
	And what you're going to see with a lot of them is you're going to see many of them cleave much more to the system and do whatever it takes, stay in the system's good graces in order to be able to live a good life.
	They'll be doing all kinds of betrayal and awful stuff to one another.
	And then others will just be cast out and left to die from poor services or left around diversity.
	And like it's just going to be last minute frenzied vetting requests.
	Please.
	Yeah.
	There's going to be aspects of it that will probably resemble Turner Diaries.
	I think Turner Diaries is a little bit over the top in how they portray some of the stuff.
	But some of the stuff is going to come true in the way that it was told.
	What is the American inner city if not collapse?
	It is.
	I mean, you and I know Detroit quite well.
	And you and I have talked about like just this part.
	There's go to the Del Rey.
	Go to the Del Rey.
	There's nobody there anymore.
	There are parts of that city that were just so beautiful and wealthy and they were the nicest, most sought after neighborhoods to live in in the entire country, maybe outside of some parts on the coast or something.
	But when you go into the executive neighborhoods of Detroit past, and it's literally just full of burnt out houses and crackheads, that is collapse.
	Collapse happened.
	Yeah.
	And that's where I said where there's an opportunity as more and more white people are chased out.
	Well, I mean, for the most part, the city, the white people have been chased out of the cities, but what's happening now is diversity is going into the suburbs now as well with the Section 8 and all that.
	And so now it's not just black people or Mexicans or whatever groups living in the cities.
	They're just getting straight up depopulated.
	And Detroit's the most prominent example of this, but you're going to see it happen to more and more cities.
	There was this, I just saw this map that showed how many states that were being depopulated because of people moving around due to the COVID lockdown stuff and looking for job opportunities and all that.
	The Midwest has swelled a bit, especially I know Michigan was a big net, had a big net gain of residents that moved in.
	But other states, you're seeing this big population exchange and transfer that's going on.
	And there's places that are just going to be thoroughly depopulated.
	And there's an opportunity there, I think, for very clever dissidents who basically want to do a little bit of ad hoc homesteading in these cities.
	If they feel confident that they can protect themselves and their families, there's a chance to start recolonizing some of these areas and creating our own communities there.
	LA is a ghost town.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	A horrifying one at that.
	Like you can go on and watch videos of, like, I have sang the praises on air several times of when I finally got to visit California and going to Venice and Malibu and Santa Monica.
	And now Venice for five miles is a tent city for miles.
	Yeah.
	If you're listening to this, dear listener, and you are not already tribed up, if you're not already owning or looking for property in rural America, I can't advise anyone to try the Borzoi very brave urban recolonization project just yet, although it is a fascinating thing for down the road.
	I wouldn't recommend it for everybody, but I mean, for people who we're going to need to have people, we can't just be localized into one area, especially because we need to have as many places that we can create, especially when they're close to city infrastructure.
	And we're going to need those aspects.
	So there's going to be need to be some brave souls that are willing to do that.
	But I'm not going to say be one of those people that's like, you have to do this.
	No, you don't have to do it, but it's something to consider.
	Yeah, I suspect that the collapse that we do see in the debt and the demographics and the upheaval and the division in the country is going to continue.
	It will get worse.
	They will keep throwing money at the problem.
	And eventually the music will stop.
	And I don't know whether that devolves into chaos or total tyranny that ultimately fails.
	But all these projects eventually end one day and ours will too.
	That's a law of history, if you want to be grandiose about it.
	And maybe it'll be in our lifetimes.
	Maybe it'll be in our kids' lifetimes.
	But every single day that the energy is still on, the electricity, that your money in your pocket is still worth something to buy of utility is a little bit of a gift.
	Don't squander it.
	And that's why it's important on the American theatre side to be able to have that yeomanry mindset because it's going, we're going to, if things get worse, then you have to be within the community and around people that you have somebody, you have a guy that can do X, you have a guy that can do Y.
	A lot of people misunderstood the learn to cobble bit that I was doing.
	That had started as a joke because Storm King was listing off a couple of different skills that people could learn.
	And he mentioned how important cobbl thing would be and people kept laughing about it.
	So that's where learn to cobble came from.
	You don't have to necessarily, you don't have to, you don't have to learn.
	We don't need 10,000 cobblers marching on Washington.
	That's not the goal of it.
	But it's no part of it because that's exactly what I want.
	Yeah, unfortunately, a large percentage of his audience heard learn to gobble and they showed up.
	I couldn't resist that one.
	Maybe Junior will like that one.
	All right.
	Borzoi, thanks so much.
	Real quick, before we go to the break, predictions for election night.
	What's going to happen?
	I thought about this because you asked me to come up with a prediction.
	I've been generally checked out.
	And for the longest time, I was saying I don't think Trump can win.
	Now, I've been putting it up as a toss-up for the last month.
	So I decided to come up with the stupidest, most, the stupidest possible outcome I could think of, the one that would cause the most amount of butthurt and the most amount of just chaos and anger.
	And as much as I would love to go for a prediction of 269 to 269 tie between them, I'm going to go Trump squeaks by Tusset with 270 electoral votes because of Maine's second district going for him.
	I'm going with a squeaker.
	All right.
	Good.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for putting your opinion out there.
	It's fun and it also holds us a little bit accountable.
	I'm still, well, I've made my opinion clear on that one.
	And real quick, I wanted to devote a little bit more time to movies than we have.
	But what are some of your favorite either Halloween or horror movies from not necessarily the pause button archives, but just your personal faves?
	Well, I always watch the movie Halloween every year.
	Yes, Jamie Lee Curtis, the original.
	Yeah, and wonderful aesthetic.
	My wife and I are going to watch it together on Halloween Day.
	I know.
	Big fan of Alien.
	It's a bit of an unusual choice, but Alien, I think, is a perfect Halloween movie.
	What have we been watching?
	Oh, we watched a video.
	I showed the wife Video Drum.
	She loved it.
	Has she seen It Follows?
	Yes, she has.
	We like It Follows.
	That's a good one as well.
	We just watched, actually, tonight before the show, we watched Nightmare on Elm Street.
	Neither her or I had actually ever seen the full movie.
	What?
	I don't watch movies, man.
	All right.
	I'm going to add wife and I watched 30 Days of Night with Josh Hartnett the other night.
	Really good vampire movie, underrated, I think.
	28 Days Later, I haven't watched in a long time, but that was a wonderful zombie movie based in London.
	And then I also had down here Sean of the Dead.
	Of course, great can't be fun if you haven't seen it.
	I would also add The Witch to the very, very good movie.
	It's not for everybody.
	But I would recommend if you didn't like it, go listen to my pause button that I did with Potato Smasher on it.
	I think because I had a actually one of my buddy, the Kassad did not like The Witch.
	And then he listened to my pause button.
	He's like, wow, you made me see it in a different way.
	I need to go back and re-watch it now because he went into, I think he went to the movie with different expectations for it.
	And like I said to him, it's not so much a horror movie as it is, well, as they bill it, a New England folktale, but because 17th century New England is very spooky and it's a very American movie.
	I highly recommend it.
	I do think it's a great movie, and I think people should, if they didn't like it the first time, give it a try.
	You might need to just make sure your mindset's the right place for it.
	Yeah, sometimes just when a movie creates an aura or a feeling or an aesthetic, even if it's not a perfect film or it's clunky in parts, if it leaves imagery and feelings and sentiments with you, it's a keeper.
	And yeah, I think The Witch was definitely one of those.
	A Swedish movie called Let the Right One In.
	Awesome horror movie, and it's one of the rare instances of a movie that's better than the book.
	And the book's not bad.
	I just think that the movie's brilliant.
	All right.
	Well, we lost Smashers internet on this first half.
	And we have a substitute hitter who just popped in.
	I don't know if he's got his mic ready yet, but Nat Scott is going to join us in the second half.
	There he is.
	What's up, buddy?
	Hey, how's it going?
	Thanks for pinch hitting.
	No problem.
	Right on time.
	And before you guys go to break, by the way, that music I picked for you, that's the song.
	My wife, we haven't had an official first dance, wedding reception or first dance of all that, but that is our wedding song is 45 years by Stan Rogers.
	There you go.
	Stan Rogers, great guy.
	I was going to tee it up.
	All right, Borzoi, thank you for joining us and sharing your wisdom with us.
	You look great.
	You sound great.
	And we're really happy for you.
	And we can tell the listeners, be like Borzoi.
	Answer your emails from adoring fans carefully.
	And I'm happy.
	Even I told you I'd come on before, you know, before the baby and also after the baby.
	But I don't mind coming on again just to do a full episode because I felt a little bit bad about only doing the one hour, but I'm dusted.
	I need to get some sleep.
	That's fine.
	We got plenty of material for the second half.
	We'll be better off without you anyway.
	I'm kidding.
	All right, everybody.
	Thank you, Borzoi.
	Send your prayers and good thoughts and shekels to him as well.
	And we will be right back.
	is stan rogers and 45 years where the earth shows its bones of wind broken stone in the sea and the sky are warm I'm caught out of time, my blood sings with wine, and I'm running naked in the sun.
	There's God in the trees, I'm weak in the knees, and the skies are painful blue.
	I'd like to look around, but honey, all I see is you.
	Now the summer city lights will soften the night till you think that the year is clear.
	And I'm sitting with friends where 45 cents will buy another glass of beer.
	He's got something to say, but I'm so far away that I don't know who I'm talking to.
	Cause you just walked in the door, and honey, all I see is you.
	And I just wanna hold you closer than I've ever held anyone before.
	You say you've been twice a wife, and you're through with life.
	Oh, but honey, what the hell's it for?
	After 23 years, you'd think I could find a way to let you know somehow that I want to see your smiling face 45 years from now.
	We'll see you next time.
	Maybe after the show, she'll ask me to go home with her for a drink or two.
	Now her smile lights her eyes, but honey, all I see is you.
	And I just wanna hold you closer than I've ever held anyone before.
	You say you've been twice a wife and you're through with life.
	Oh, but honey, what the hell's it for?
	After 23 years, you'd think I could find a way to let you know somehow that I wanna see your smiling face 45 years from now.
	I just wanna hold you closer than I've ever held anyone before.
	You say you've been twice a wife and you're through with life.
	Oh, but honey, what the hell's it for?
	After 23 years, you'd think I could find a way to let you know somehow that I want to see your smiling face 45 years from now.
	Yes, I want to see your smiling face 45 years from now.
	And welcome back to Full House episode 66.
	Second half.
	Lots of fun in store for you, ladies and gentlemen.
	Here Borzoi has gone off into the arms of Morpheus.
	That means he went to sleep.
	His wife is not named Morpheus.
	Maybe she is.
	I don't know.
	I was just thinking, yeah, we got to get a sock name so we don't have to just call her Mrs. Borzoi.
	Lawrence Fishburne.
	But is she white?
	She was cute and pretty.
	And yeah, you guys can probably hear that I'm smiling through my voice.
	But yeah, pure, genuine happiness.
	What a lovely story for him.
	And I hope they have.
	I told her a couple of my worst jokes.
	She liked them.
	So she's good.
	There you go.
	Total, total keeper.
	All right.
	Let's get right to our congratulations.
	Best part of the show, arguably.
	To our pal Ludwig and his wife, he reached out to let us know that they welcomed their fifth child.
	Wow.
	Nice.
	Healthy baby boy.
	Great.
	Guys, yeah.
	And don't forget, dear listener, Ludwig was the artist who created our logo and a lot of the show artwork that you may see on Telegram and BitChute and other outlets where fine podcasts are found.
	So great guy.
	And he actually had a loved one pass also this year as well.
	So condolences, Ludwig, as well.
	But yeah, bless you guys and your new baby boy.
	You're the man.
	Listener Sox wrote in and he said, I've been a listener for about six months.
	I have a 13-month-old little boy, and I just found out this morning that my wife is pregnant.
	We had two miscarriages before my son was born.
	So any prayers or good thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
	I've show to Red Pill a couple Normie friends and have a couple more that I'm working on currently.
	Have a great day and thank you for all that you do.
	Thank you, Sox.
	Awesome.
	Bless you and your wife.
	I am almost as happy for you and your new white life on the way as I am that you're sharing Full House with your friends.
	You could do more by sharing the show than by making new podcasts.
	No, of course.
	God bless you guys.
	And also, we do have to extend sincere condolences to our good friend Vaughan, listener every week.
	He lost a treasured and very important member of his household.
	His septic tank died.
	Everyone can please go to full-house.com and leave an F in the comments.
	Do we have a GoFundMe yet?
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Vaughn, every week, he's like, oh, coach, how do I download the show?
	I'm like, use the RSS, Knucklehead.
	We ourselves actually, in a bit of coincidence, had some septic drama this week.
	We were out and about on the property doing stuff, and we come back.
	And dear daughter was the first one to get to the house.
	And she's like, it smells like poop.
	This is not good.
	This is not good.
	I run up and I see that there is water coming out of the top of one of our septic caps.
	I'm like, Jesus.
	Oh, Snasher ran in for the double decker.
	So I go into the house.
	Fortunately, there's not brown liquid coming out of the pipes, but the toilet was running.
	Long story short, I won't bore the audience, but I had the tank dutifully pumped out earlier this year and it was operating properly.
	So why the hell is it full?
	Either the pump has to be dead or worst case scenario, there's a clog somewhere in the system and it's not getting down to the drain field.
	So I had to make an emergency call to the septic guy.
	He came out all smiles, probably because he had a little surcharge.
	I know.
	I didn't even ask him how much is it going to be.
	I was like, yes, please come take garbage away.
	And so he's pumping it out.
	And as the water level is going down, the pump is running, which is a good sign, but there's water squirting out of the PVC pipe above the pump.
	So there's a hole in the pipe back.
	So it was trying to shoot that stuff down the drain, but instead it was just back to the septic.
	So all things considered, not bad.
	We got that puppy emptied out and I poured shale all over the wet, stinky ground in front of our house, which didn't get into the basement or anything like that.
	So anyway, all right, enough about septic tanks.
	I had to share, right?
	That's good.
	That's dead material.
	Yeah, seriously.
	We fixed it and we'll get that leak fixed.
	All right.
	So let us move on.
	We've got really a bounty of topics to talk about tonight, but we'll start with one that is a little bit outside of our usual mission statement, talking about new life and being better fathers.
	And that is end of life experiences that we increasingly, guys on this show, will be dealing with with our parents.
	God bless them.
	Heaven forbid our children.
	But a person who's very close to the show lost a family member within the past month.
	And I was privileged and honored enough to have gone for at least a week, dignified at a funeral home with this person resting in peace with symbolic items from his life.
	It was nice.
	It was sad.
	It was somber.
	Pretty much what you, dear listener, have expected from this experience in your life.
	But regardless, that got me thinking about what we would want.
	What is not just what we want, but what is the right way to handle this after you're gone?
	Some people have elaborate wishes for their funerals or for their resting places or how they want the body treated.
	And other people just punt to the family.
	My wife, for example, said, I don't care.
	You do whatever makes the most sense, whatever makes you happy, whatever you think honors me, and whatever is not expensive, essentially.
	She told me that she demands November Rain be played and everyone stand in absolute silence for the duration.
	That is true.
	And we will play November Rain at your memorial, honey.
	It's coming sooner than you think.
	But all right, I'll kick things off.
	And here's my thinking on this as an irreligious person.
	We'll leave it at that.
	And I know people who deal with death, and the embalming process is a chemical and not at all aesthetic or pleasing process.
	So here's what I'm thinking.
	I'm thinking a pine box, homemade, is fine.
	Just give me a little rectangle for my body to go in.
	Don't embalm me.
	If you want to have an open casket with no embalming, that's up to you, fam, for the hardy souls who might want to come to my funeral.
	But seriously, don't embalm me.
	I do want to be buried.
	I do not want to be cremated and have ashes scattered or saved on an urn somewhere.
	I'd like a simple, cheap resting place, ideally where I live or, you know, in a nice, pretty cemetery would be okay too, with a simple headstone.
	It can be upright or just in the ground so that after I'm gone, I'm vain enough that, yes, I would like a place where my kids or grandkids or maybe even full house fans could go and leave a can of Miller Light or USS Liberty cap on my head.
	But Sam, we haven't heard too much from you this week.
	So we'll let you start.
	You're also closest to death of everyone on the ground.
	I didn't have that one plan.
	What are you thinking, buddy?
	Or what have you been through that has worked for me?
	Yeah, well, you know, there's a lot of times people will do this humble, what they think is some sort of humble thing, but it's really like Kind of selfish or at least not thoughtful of their relatives.
	And that's this thing of, I don't care what you do.
	I don't want anything special.
	Just cremate me and be done with it and all that type of thing.
	The funeral is for the survivors.
	Yes.
	And the mourning and the cemetery plot is to say you were here.
	And the people who are doing away with this, it's just one more thing that they're erasing us, that we were not somewhere and we were not who we were.
	So I think that it's important to have a proper funeral.
	The embalming thing and all that, I don't know what to say about all that because not too long ago, nobody was embalmed.
	They would just have a, you know, maybe even almost the same day or the next day, the people would have a quick funeral and then they would be buried.
	But whether embalmed or not, I think it's important to have a proper funeral so that the loved ones can come together and mourn and remember the person.
	And then they bury that person and they have that memorial that they could go visit.
	Absolutely.
	On their birthday or whatever it is.
	And were you saying, Sam, that you think it's important for you to give instructions for what you want rather than putting the onus on the family members?
	Like even if.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, and, you know, in another day and age, not too long ago, there'd be no question about this.
	So as far as having to leave instructions, yeah, unfortunately, you do have to leave instructions because people might not do the right thing.
	But if everybody's on the same page, you don't need to leave instructions because we all know then we're going to have a funeral.
	We're going to mourn.
	We're going to have a little luncheon.
	We're going to bury the body.
	We're going to visit the grave and things like that.
	Yeah.
	So you want the traditional wake funeral and a lovely burial spot.
	Yes.
	And it's not because I want it, but it's because for the family.
	Sure.
	For the survivors.
	There is definitely a sort of somber catharsis about a funeral where you go there and you celebrate the person's life.
	You, and again, if you're Christian or religious, you celebrate their afterlife and what they did and family, what they meant to everyone.
	And for people who, you know, there's some people who have said, you know, I don't want any funeral.
	And, you know, I've known people like that.
	And mostly not about to say, that's what I'm saying.
	It's like this false humility.
	Right.
	Yep.
	Good point.
	Yeah.
	I mean, yeah, there's a fine line between being selfish ex post facto, you know, from the, from beyond, you know, you will do my wishes.
	But I think it's also reasonable for someone to, it's comforting to think like, if I die, at least my friends will come together and have a good time and celebrate me.
	I don't think that's.
	Well, and unfortunately, a lot of family members, the only time they see each other is at a funeral or a wedding or something like that.
	So this is when families, unfortunately, it's the occasion of death, but it's when families come together and that's important time.
	Weddings and funerals.
	Yep.
	Absolutely.
	We are going to take a quick verse from Ecclesiastes as well that always comes to my mind in funerals and stuff like this.
	It's Ecclesiastes 7, 2.
	It is better to go to the house of mourning than to the house of feasting, for this is the end of all mankind, and the living will lay it to heart.
	So.
	Yeah, I like that.
	It puts your, it's a necessary part of your life, and it puts you in the mindset of eventually this is going to be me.
	Eventually, this is going to be all my loved ones.
	What do I think about that?
	How can I process that?
	And it's necessary, honestly.
	Well, another scripture comes to mind.
	It says, blessed in the eyes of the Lord are the death of his saints.
	So death is not only a normal part, but it's something that the Lord desires.
	He desires his loved ones.
	I've heard a lot of people refer to death as, you know, they were called home.
	Right.
	There you go.
	For my part.
	Yeah, Jayo, we know that you want to get set in a Viking longboat and have a shoot arrow settled on Lake Erie.
	Sorry, I had to.
	No, for me, it really is about the living.
	And like, there's a, there's a funny comedian.
	His name's Theo Vaughn.
	He has a podcast and he will have sort of everyday people on there.
	And he had a mortician on this last week.
	So I've actually given this some thought pretty recently.
	It's something I need to talk over with my wife, but I don't think she would be interested in an open casket sort of ordeal.
	I'm not interested in being embalmed.
	I think it would be super cool for, you know, people who knew me to make a nice box to put me in, do a closed casket get together and go bury me somewhere or cremate me, you know, depending what's important to my wife.
	But I had a lot of friends die untimely deaths when I was in my 20s.
	One of them in particular was a very Irish guy.
	St. Patrick's Day was his thing.
	And, you know, his family got him this real nice plot.
	So any year that I'm in Michigan for St. Patrick's Day, I go to his headstone.
	And it's been a long time now, but I'm still in touch with friends who do it.
	And I just go talk to him, you know, split a Guinness, you know, take a Jameson out there or something.
	And there was a catharsis in it.
	And part of it, too, feels like I'm doing something for him.
	You know, they say you die twice when you actually die and when the last person says your name.
	And I think there's some poetry to that.
	I think it's nice to be able to reflect on the dead.
	And like, we're so divorced from death that something sounds, I think to a lot of people, that sounds like horrible and morbid or something.
	But no, this is this is a part of life.
	And you don't need to be so afraid of it.
	And it's not, you know, not everything's a Halloween movie.
	But yeah, I'd like to keep it simple.
	You know, I don't want people laying out a bunch of money for one.
	But, yeah, I don't get on with that whole, no, don't do a memorial, blah, blah, blah.
	Just, you know, throw me off a bridge and that's it.
	I think I'd like to be boxed up and buried by people who knew me.
	I think that'd be neat.
	But get smasher to dig the hole with his right hand.
	No, I mean, I mean, literally, like, if you've ever had to bury a pet, even, there's a spiritual component there.
	And I would suggest that any of you who have land or plan to obtain land, you still have to get your permission in, I think, all 50 states.
	But it's very easy to get permission to have a family cemetery as long as you will not be selling plots.
	Once you decide to go commercial, there's a lot of hoops to jump through.
	And I just learned this from having listened to this mortician this past week on a podcast.
	But yeah, maybe see about being buried where you live, man.
	You know, they put you under the tree and your family can go out and say hi whenever they want to.
	Yep.
	First family plot was Thomas Jefferson's family plot at Monticello.
	And I thought, what a beautiful place for your body to be in for the rest of eternity.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead, man.
	Yeah.
	A couple of years back, I traced back my family history as far as I could and got back good ways here in America.
	And after I did all that as part of a Christmas gift for my family, what I did is I mapped out as many grave sites as I could of our family in the area where they were very awesome.
	And then I took my parents on a trip and drove to, I want to say, maybe 15, 20 of these graves up to very early in American history and showed them each one and said, here's one of your ancestors.
	And this is what he did.
	And this is how he died.
	That story.
	And this was kind of coming into this mindset and our ideals and philosophies.
	And it made everything in history and everything in our family so much more visceral and physical because you could go and you can touch the grave of your ancestor who was buried there two, three hundred years ago.
	And it was amazing.
	And I, for one, was very thankful that those graves were there for me as a descendant hundreds of years later.
	And I was grateful for all the people who had kept up those graveyards.
	I was talking to boars who their families had lived contiguously on this plot of land for, I don't know, 300 years or something.
	And they plant trees when people die.
	And it's a trip to be like, I remember my great grandpa because he died when I was 10.
	He was born in 1890.
	And he remembers his great grandpa who lived on this very same land who was born in 1790.
	You know, it's such a weird thing to be able to shake hands with the past that goes way back because you think about your oldest family member.
	You know, maybe you have a grandma who's 90 or a great grandma who is 90.
	Well, do they remember someone?
	Because now you're like one degree of separation from like the 1700s or something.
	You know, it's incredible.
	Yeah, it's the opposite.
	Reconnecting with distant ancestors is the opposite of the pop culture and the sugar and the empty-headedness that so many people are filled with.
	Base Mr. Producer reminds us that leftists do dig up slaveholders and move their bodies or mess with them.
	And of course, during the Spanish Civil War, the Marxists, which they were euphemistically known as the Republicans, did dig up nuns and priests to desecrate their bodies.
	And you see that happening today.
	So yeah, a little caution for those getting buried.
	You may not have eternal peace there.
	My paternal grandfather, German Nord, he was a fisherman.
	He loved the sea.
	And his choice was to get cremated and have his ashes scattered at sea, which, as a boy, I remember being out on the boat that day.
	I may not have been on the boat.
	I may have, you know, remember my parents talking about it and feeling like I was there, but I thought that was very weird at the time to scatter grandpa into the ocean.
	However, today, anytime I go in the ocean, I think, well, there are some molecules of old grandpa in there, which is kind of cool.
	Yeah.
	Sitting for a failure.
	Yep.
	You know, the idea of having some sort of place that's a memorial to the person's life is as desirable as that is.
	It is not always possible.
	And I recall the stories of the pioneers when they were heading west in this country.
	And when somebody would die, they would have to, they could not mark the grave because the Indians would come and they would dig up the bodies and desecrate them and things like that.
	So they would have to just be unmarked graves.
	And thinking of all the wartime soldiers who, despite being starving or freezing, would still take the time to dig out of the icy earth a couple feet to bury their comrades, or if things were so terrible, had to leave them behind.
	Really serious stuff.
	There's some really cool reclamation projects where they, you know, there's some battlefield in France where all these American soldiers died or something.
	And to this day, they're still working on like identifying people, contacting their families.
	The bodies get brought back and buried in their hometown or wherever they would have been intended.
	Because a lot of war dead, a lot of soldiers will tell you, like, yeah, if you bury me on the battlefield, leave me there.
	You know, especially in a more civilized war like World War I or World War II, where you're not worried about, you know, some kind of mukmuk people digging up the grave or whatever.
	But some people wanted to go home.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, Jayo, the audience deserves to know whether you want to be buried in your optics man outfit, your Seaville gear, or a brown shirt costume that we get for you at the Halloween store.
	Honestly, I would be, that's a great idea.
	I'd be perfectly content to be buried in my Charlottesville gear.
	Yeah.
	White polos and khakis.
	Yeah, that's dignified enough.
	Yeah.
	Whatever.
	But you're a natty dresser, too.
	So if you want to get suited up, I'll put the, that's too morbid to think about putting a suit on you before you're funeral.
	I like the optics man idea.
	Extra batteries in there and just have him glowing for all appearance.
	All right.
	Good stuff, guys.
	Yeah.
	Dear audience members, we love you.
	We hope you don't have any family members who pass.
	And when and if that does happen, stay strong.
	Let us know if you have any good ideas, heartwarming things that you've done.
	Obviously, we all want to have, we want our loved ones and our friends to get together, have a good time, and remember the positives and not just be sad sex because we happen to have shuffled off this mortal coil.
	One of my buddies who died an untimely death in his 20s had always said that, and he wasn't like a drugs and drinking partier, but he always said, like, I want my funeral, if I were to die, to be a party.
	I want people to have fun.
	I want people to laugh.
	And he would talk about this with some regularity.
	And we honored that.
	And we were getting so many dirty looks from like distant relatives who barely knew him or whatever.
	Um, because we just sat around essentially telling stories about funny times that we had all had together.
	So we're cracking up in this funeral home.
	And his parents knew his parents and his like siblings all knew what the score was.
	And, you know, they kept being put in this position.
	You know, some rando walks over and it's like, oh my God, who are those people over there being so disrespectful?
	And his mom's telling them, like, no, this is exactly what he wanted and what we expected.
	It's actually something of a good time.
	Eat it.
	Yeah.
	You know, I'm thinking about the Irish wake, of course, which is traditionally a little more raucous, heavy alcohol consumption.
	And thinking about that, I always, it reminds me of a little bit of my intra-European internal conflict because I'm more dramatic and Nordic in my outlook.
	And I always thought that was maybe a little bit inappropriate.
	But hey, you know, it certainly beats everybody sitting around and being sad.
	Now, at this funeral home, they did not, it didn't seem like they had a cap on attendees, which was nice.
	They weren't trying to limit it to 10 in the room at a time.
	Everybody, of course, had to wear masks and complied.
	Yours truly included.
	So that was another just quick thing that I found odd that they were totally fine with gatherings in this somewhat COVID-restrictive state at a funeral.
	But yeah, people with babies on the way have to worry about whether they can even bring their youngest kids in to welcome their new life into the world.
	Crazy out there.
	Have you seen the funeral or the it wouldn't be a funeral whatever you want to call it?
	Went viral.
	A bunch of Irish people, and the one dude jumps up on the bar and takes his shirt off and they like dedicate it to their dead buddy and they're all singing Mr. Brightside.
	That thing's got like 100 million views on YouTube.
	Like at the end, the dude like stage dives in this tiny little shack bar in Ireland somewhere.
	But I certainly wouldn't be opposed to that.
	Like if you guys want to turn my funeral into a party, whatever you got to do to make it easier on yourself.
	Sure.
	All right.
	Look up.
	Yeah.
	Mr. Brightside funeral.
	And of course, I am also in support of the African-American community's new tradition of dressing up their 20-something and 30-something sons in their basketball American gear with the X-Box controller and a mountain.
	I'm telling you, we have to make this a meme where at least those guys who are doxxed dress like, how do you want to go out for your wake and just get up anyway?
	That's not how they dressed him up.
	That's just how they found him.
	Just kept them all.
	Yeah, just stick them in the corner, drink some 40s, and get fried chicken.
	That's a plan.
	All right.
	Well, I teased up that we had a lot of audience feedback, and I wasn't BSing you, dear listener.
	And it's tough to pick from these.
	If we're not getting to you this week, don't be offended.
	We'll do our best.
	We have a cue here, and always feel free to re-up them to the Full House ProtonMail inbox, full house show at protonmail.com.
	But this one is a little bit heartbreaking.
	So we're going to do it just this year.
	He says, Hey, friends, my name's El.
	I'm a 24-year-old single father, and I have a question for you all.
	Over the past four years, I've had to spend thousands in order to see my son.
	I know this is very common, but I can't shake the feeling of shame.
	I feel like I've let my boy and my family down.
	I try to stay positive, but some nights seem impossible.
	Is there any advice you all would have for dealing with these feelings?
	So I presume what we have here is a divorce and mom and his precious baby boy is far away.
	So got no one to turn to on this one first, but Sam.
	Yeah, well, first of all, you got to stop feeling sorry for yourself because this is happening like a million times a day to people in this world.
	So what you're going through is not unique.
	I know when you're feeling bad about that, you feel like you're the only one this is happening to, and this is some unique tragedy, but it isn't.
	So first of all, that, you know, you have to carry on and do the right thing because you're not the only one going through this.
	And this is happening a lot.
	And it's not your fault or not.
	I don't know your dynamics of your situation, but this is a much bigger problem than just you, whatever went on between you and the mother there.
	So keep doing the right thing and have faith.
	Don't give up and things are going to come out okay, you know, and you have to carry on with your life.
	And you got to be there for your son, but you also got to be there for yourself.
	And you got to keep going.
	And life is going to go on.
	I know when you undergo a tragedy, you don't want life just to go on.
	You don't, you know, that's the perversity of life or the perversity of these tragedies is that you don't want things to go on, but they do go on.
	So you have to go on and you have to, you have to keep doing the right thing and things are going to work out for you.
	And just a testament to the listener himself, the fact that he's willing to spend that much money to spend time with his beloved son speaks to his character too.
	So I think don't sell yourself short there, buddy.
	Yeah, you're doing the right thing.
	Yeah.
	Don't give up is the biggest thing I can say to you.
	If you ever feel like the money you're spending isn't worth it, keep in mind that the actions you take with your children will reverberate throughout the next thousand years.
	And that might sound a little melodramatic, but it's true.
	Yeah.
	Each one of us had fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers that contributed to creating what we are right now.
	And we wouldn't be here in whatever fashion if it wasn't for them and their actions.
	So every time you spend more money to try and go see your son to try to get custody, if that's what's going on here, or whatever it is, you are molding him to being the man that he's going to be and the father that he's going to be and the grandfather that he's going to be.
	And that reverberates again thousands and thousands of years, just as it did with you.
	And your son is going to realize that one day, the trouble or expense or whatever it is that you went through to be with him, he's going to see that.
	And that will be important.
	Stryker once told me that time is far more important than money.
	I had never heard that little nugget wisdom.
	So, yeah, we know it's not easy and we know that money is tight for so many of us.
	But man, time with your kids, especially when they're young, is one of the most priceless things on sale.
	Your children.
	Finite resources time, you know?
	Yeah.
	I'd like to have a little bit more information about the situation.
	Like, why haven't you just moved closer?
	I don't know if there's something preventing that, you know, but that would be my first idea is just go move closer.
	But I would say it's also important to keep contact other than just Sam.
	You know, I don't know, again, I don't know what your situation is exactly, but talking on the phone a lot, texting, you know, that kind of stuff, constant contact, I think, is important.
	But yeah, I'm sorry for your situation.
	And, you know, I'm married to the mother of my child, and he's just one little dude.
	You know, so I don't have a lot of experience in this.
	And this isn't my wheelhouse.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Well, and but you raise a good point, too.
	I mean, you don't know how old the boy is, but there's no harm in him having an email address that maybe just is your direct line in.
	I've been doing this with Junior, just dropping him a line here and there.
	Before when he was too young, I would make little notes and email him to an account that I set up before, way before he was willing.
	So there's a little bit of a record of my interactions with him, my prides, my joys when he was too young to read, of course.
	And now I can just send him a little note here and there throughout the day that maybe, you know, he doesn't check it all the time, but hey, I was really proud of you during this moment, or that was really cool when you did this thing.
	It makes, of course, the father feel good.
	But I need to ask him actually if he enjoys those or if he finds them awkward because kids can get so self-aware so early these days or you know, that sort of stuff.
	But to hell with that, I'm still sending an email.
	Like it or not, yeah.
	Go ahead, delete the account if you want to listen.
	All right.
	If he doesn't appreciate him now, he will later.
	That's right.
	Yep.
	Even if the account goes idle, he'll still know that I did it.
	All right.
	We're going to move on to one a little bit more practical in terms of fatherhood.
	This is fun and keep them coming, fam.
	This is not to fill airtime, but because it's as fun as it is rewarding and hopefully adding value for other listeners out there in the silence, maybe a little too scared to send a message to the ProtonMail account.
	But anyway, this comes from Venom, cool sock mate.
	And he said, My son is almost three and is more rambunctious than is expected for that age.
	We put him to bed around eight every night, but every morning he wakes up before anyone else in the house between 5:30 and 6.
	My condolences to you, Venom.
	That's pretty early.
	Not content in being the only one awake, he then starts yelling for the attention of either parent or his sister to come get him to play or occasionally a snack.
	I'm proud he's an early riser and not some layabout, but I do work second shift.
	None of us gets up that early.
	We've tried keeping him up later, but it only made his behavior worse during the day.
	What should I try next?
	Please help.
	Thanks for all you do.
	All right, Venom.
	Sam, go ahead.
	Yeah.
	Well, I had a couple of guys that were like that.
	They got up extremely early.
	And really, if you think about it, that's the natural thing.
	That's the sleeping really late and all that.
	That's not healthy and that's not good.
	People should get up early, get up early and do things.
	So, you know, in a way, that's a good trait and it's a natural trait.
	However, I get where you're coming from with the that it disturbs the house and he probably gets himself in trouble and all that type of thing.
	The thing that I will say first of all is this time with your son being young like that, and if whatever other children you have or will have, this time is very short.
	Maybe that's not a satisfying answer, but they are going to be out of this phase very soon.
	And you will be looking back wishing to have those days back.
	So try to think of it like that.
	And so you have to manage the situation.
	And it's going to mean maybe less sleep for you or some inconvenience for you, or you got to come up with some creative solutions.
	But, you know, just having the right perspective yourself on this, I think will help you the most.
	Yep.
	And come to think of it, I am in a not entirely dissimilar situation with Potato because he gets up with the sun, just like Thomas Jefferson.
	Yeah, bringing up Jefferson again.
	He said, there was something like for 50 years, the sun never beat me out of bed, which I thought was a little cool.
	Before alarm clocks, too.
	Yeah, way to go, TJ.
	But I do a little bit of a hybrid model.
	Most mornings, I think that's fair.
	My wife may correct me.
	I will just suck it up and get with him, get up with him and put on a pot of coffee.
	And just the day begins now.
	Thanks, Potato.
	I will cop to occasionally, like maybe if I'm recording Full House and he's up at the break of dawn and because a little inside baseball for the audience, Mr. Producer knows this, but after we record, I like to listen to the music that we played a couple times and have a night cap.
	So sometimes this show goes late and I stay up a little bit later to not wallow, but to bask in the after show glow by myself when everybody has a little bit of me time, a little bit of pride.
	So mornings after we record Full House, sometimes I'm a little bleary-eyed.
	So I will occasionally come out with Potato and put on Tumble Leaf and then take a snooze on the couch or sometimes go back into the bedroom to sleep.
	And that is not good.
	You don't want the digital Jew to be entertaining your kids while you're dozing.
	But, you know, for those really rough.
	Every once in a while.
	Exactly.
	Being a parent can be rough and we don't have to be perfect all the time.
	But it's tough medicine from Sam, but I like the idea of saying, ah, you know what?
	I got a young, rambunctious toddler.
	Let's get up even if I'm drowsy and let's have some fun.
	Go out for a walk.
	One of my fondest memories of our difficult toddler, and they're still ongoing, of course, is him waking up and crying at the door because he wants to go outside.
	He wants to get his shoes on and go cause trouble out there.
	Count your blessings, Venom, that you got a rambunctious little hell raiser and raiser.
	Yeah, think of all the people who are trying so hard to have a child and can't, you know, and the difficulty to bring the child into the world and all that.
	And then we're going to complain about that they're getting up early and stuff like that.
	I would just keep it in perspective.
	Exactly.
	I change with the hamburgler all the time.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Maybe I was just raised by a little bit different sort of person.
	But have you considered the words STFU?
	Corporate punishment.
	Yeah, it's time to shut up.
	I work all day.
	Like, you don't run the show.
	Yeah, that's true, too.
	Tell them they have to be quiet.
	You have to instill discipline in the child.
	Yeah.
	Two words, bed cage.
	Smash got three cages at home, one for his wife and the other two for his joking.
	Yes, Smasher.
	We miss you, buddy.
	Sorry about the internet.
	He sent a screenshot of the outage just so we knew he wasn't shirking.
	I'm going to peace out from the show if I get bored someday and send you that same screenshot that he did.
	Yeah, man, I don't know what to tell you.
	Keep that in the opera.
	Matt, you sound like you had something there.
	I didn't want to cut you off.
	Well, it's kind of the opposite of JO's take.
	So it's probably good.
	I was going to say, if, and this is kind of my philosophy, or my kind of mindset, I guess, with my work, is if I have a job that is interfering with my family life to the point where it becomes a problem, then it's time to find a different job.
	And I know that's not always possible.
	That might be, especially right now in this post-COVID world.
	But if you're working late shift, I think, like what he said, it's maybe see if you can transfer to an earlier shift, maybe see if there's some other position you can look for.
	And of course, it's not perfect.
	It's not the be-all end-all.
	And I know that there's going to be people who that's not possible for, but what comes first, essentially.
	Yeah.
	Also, if your wife doesn't work and you work second shift and it's an inconvenience to you that your kid wakes up early, like she needs to get the show on the road.
	Right.
	That's right.
	And also for the audience, a reminder that our dear Nat Scott is not technically a father, so you can throw all of his parenting advice.
	It's all up with that.
	We'll see how it can actually.
	Exactly.
	But important notice there, so far as I know, he is still single and available.
	So if you're in the business of honeypot crafts, we're really waving the red flag there, buddy.
	We're going to get you taken down.
	I will say that I have had seven people try to hook me up this past year.
	All right.
	So who might be on this show right now?
	Maybe more than one.
	There are, yes, there are prospects.
	There is machinations afoot.
	So get, yeah, get him, get him before he's taken, lady.
	We're going to have a competition here.
	Well, I'm hot and still have my hair.
	Yeah.
	I vouch.
	I vouch.
	All right.
	I'll say this.
	I'll say this because I know a ton of single guys, but when a dude came to me, essentially, with the short bio of a girl that he wanted to set up, and he said, you got to, if you know, he knows I know a lot of people, and that's what he said.
	He said, but if you're going to try and set this girl up, it's got to be a top-notch guy.
	Like, you can't, I'm not working with any fixer-uppers out here, like this girl.
	And fat cheese.
	Matt's one of the first people that came to mind.
	So, yeah.
	Good stuff.
	And in all seriousness, a tragedy or a shame of the events of the past five or so years is a lot of our reluctance to interact with single women, either online or socially, or trying to hook them up with people because there have been a couple bad actors who maybe weren't bad actors from the get-go, but then they turned or were turned or whatever happened.
	So there's a lot of wariness out there, you know, especially when it comes to meetups.
	It's like only women with rings on their fingers or women with rings on their fingers who have given birth.
	Well, there is a way to vet women.
	And if you are vetted, you will have access to that vetting process.
	You know, I'll just say a lot of guys in this thing have had to have someone else go meet a girl before they were willing to meet her.
	And there's a whole process to it, but you yourself have to be vetted to have access to these services.
	JO personally verifies that they are, in fact, women love.
	All right, ladies.
	Sorry.
	No, I.
	It's like a rabbi looking at the underwear.
	Exactly.
	I don't know what women vetting involves.
	And frankly, I've always been just like, that's another world.
	Keep away.
	Anyway, no girls allowed in the treehouse.
	No, yeah, if you are a single woman, there are single women listening to this show.
	We know for sure.
	We love you.
	And please stay a good one.
	Stay a keeper.
	Don't turn on us.
	And let's make, I do want to make love connections because we got so many good single guys and girls out there.
	And there's just wariness on both sides, understandably.
	And we can make it happen possibly through this show.
	We'll be careful.
	I don't know how exactly, but you come up with the objective and then the plan comes later.
	Speaking of women, we got a little bit of a nasty gram from a listener, but I don't mind mentioning it on the show because I think it was sincere.
	It was a little, well, I won't characterize it too much.
	But Big John wrote in to say that our segment on fertility and couples having difficulties was way too easy on the old crows or the old crones in our retinue, the women who are older.
	And long story short, I don't have the comment at my fingertips because it was long, but he basically said we were given too much of the pass to older women in their 30s or maybe even 40s for whom fertility problems likely rest at their uterine doorstep.
	What was this writer's name?
	Big John.
	Big John did nothing wrong.
	Yeah, I wrote back.
	I said, thanks for the comment.
	Also, yeah, quick PSA.
	Comments on the website are not showing up.
	You can show that it shows that people have commented two, three, four, whatever comments, but they're not coming up.
	I've cracking the whip on Mr. Producer.
	He's totally shirking on.
	No, it's an issue with these things.
	But regardless, we see your comments.
	They come in.
	They're just not showing up on the website.
	So don't think that we are shit.
	You are trying to suppress criticism of Big John.
	No, Big John was really cool.
	I wrote him and I said, hey, thanks very much for the comment.
	I'm sorry I'm not showing up on the site.
	Don't think we're censoring you.
	But he was very firm on this issue.
	And he said, guys need younger mates.
	Youth is the font of fertility.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah.
	I'm right there with you, buddy.
	My wife is basically half my age.
	But if a dude's already with a woman, obviously that goes out the window, especially if it's like a couple that gets red-pilled a little bit later on.
	Then you just kind of got to jump through the hoops and fight with fertility issues.
	But if you're a single guy who's mate shopping.
	Yeah, I don't care how old you are.
	I mean, keep it legal, of course, but like, you know, I was talking to a dude the other day who he's 23 and he said that he will not date women who are old enough to get into bars.
	Brilliant.
	Like, you know, you're, you know, 18 to 19 and 20.
	That's all very available to him, being that he's 23, but he doesn't want girls that have been involved in like the club slut lifestyle or whatever.
	And that makes perfect sense to me.
	And if you're 30 and you only want to date 20-year-olds, good for you.
	So on, so on down the line, man.
	Like, I think there comes a certain point at which it's creepy.
	Like, if you're an old gray 60-year-old guy, like hollering at 20-year-olds, yeah, I don't know, man.
	Maybe, maybe, but uh, hey, if it works out for the people involved and all that, I'll be the last person to go against it, you know, especially if you're having a bunch of white babies.
	Yeah, I mean, you just do you.
	That's right, that's right.
	And I, I, I think what we're aiming at here is maybe there's a guy, I don't know what, what age the guy is, 35 or 38 or 40 or something.
	Just say my name, and the guy is maybe thinking like, okay, I'm going to date women.
	And he's maybe he's not even thinking it through, but that he's thinking, well, the woman has got to be with plus or minus so many years of his age.
	I would say, don't think that way.
	You got to think like maybe a much younger woman could really be the best thing.
	What's the formula supposed to be?
	You can't date anyone younger than half your age, plus seven years.
	Seven, yeah.
	Yeah, you know, I don't, I don't agree with that.
	You know, I think that if you're a man of a certain age and you're thinking about women, definitely think younger.
	That's not to say a woman of whatever age can't be.
	That's not to say a woman of any age can't be a great wife and stuff like that.
	There's not a hard and fast rule about this, but I agree with Big John's sentiment there that going younger is definitely something to consider.
	That's a strong factor you got to consider.
	And in the case of JO, he went young.
	My wife is eight years younger than me.
	And, you know, when I was 36, 37 years old, and I was starting to date women again, and I dated women that were my age at plus or minus work.
	They were, they were a basket case.
	They were very messed up.
	You know, it was only when I dated younger women that it, you know, that things worked out good.
	So there's, it's just something to think about.
	There's not a hard and fast rule about it.
	But definitely.
	Marry the best woman you can.
	There you go.
	I agree with that.
	I agree with that.
	Just look at J.O.
	He looks like half his age from when we first met him because he's been revitalized by sure.
	He doesn't look his age at all.
	Yes.
	On the other hand, Ronnie McDowell did have that wonderful song about older women, which if you take Big John's advice, that was Jewish trickery afoot for sure.
	Older women make beautiful lovers.
	Well, marry them young and you get the whole shebang.
	Right.
	That's right.
	They'll be older one day.
	Exactly.
	I walked by the other day and my wife works out a lot, but I never see it because when she's off doing her workout stuff, I have baby boy and him and I will, you know, be doing something.
	But the other day, just where we all happen to be, I walked by and I'm like exhausted after studying all day.
	And like I did my own little workout.
	It's like 5:30, 6 o'clock in the afternoon.
	And like, I already want to take a nap.
	And she's out there doing like one-handed push-ups.
	Thinking, like, man, what would it be like to be, you know, 21, 22 years old again?
	The energy, I just, I don't know.
	Yep.
	I don't have it like that anymore, man.
	Start early.
	If you're going to have kids, somebody has to have that motor.
	Right.
	And I want to give Mr. Producer credit too.
	He did righteously white knight for the elder ladies in the audience and stuck up for them and made the good point that you can make it work.
	And I agree with that too.
	Well, I mean, how many women do we know over the age of 30, over the age of 35 in this thing, who have had kids, who are presently pregnant, who have had more than one kid after the age of 35?
	Don't let the memes get under your skin too much.
	Of course, it's an improved situation for a woman to have children when she's younger.
	But this whole thing about, like, oh, if you're over 30, your kid is necessarily going to be all messed up if you can get pregnant at all.
	That's Jewish traits, buddy.
	Yeah.
	Don't throw future babies out with your old wife's bathwater, perhaps.
	A couple more, a couple more romps.
	All right.
	Man, thanks to Mr. Producer, Speak of the Devil.
	We are, we're already coming up on two hours.
	So we cannot go any further without getting to navigating the collapse with our pal Nat Scott here with us.
	Tee it up, buddy.
	What are we in store for?
	I have no idea.
	You just send these to Mr. Producer now.
	So that's actually really nice.
	So I can't pre-listen.
	Yeah, well, I don't want to spoil it too much.
	I will say that since last week, I gave away the meme of the music choice.
	I'm free of it now.
	So I didn't use music from a Chinese cartoon for this speech, which is called theme speech.
	Yeah, no.
	It's actually a Laotian cave painting this time.
	No, so it used a little bit more traditional music.
	It is as, well, now it's October 26th, but when we started recording, it was October 25th, which is St. Crispin's Day.
	So that is going to be relevant to the later half of the bit.
	All right, good stuff.
	Lay it on us, MP.
	Welcome to Navigating the Collapse with your host, Nathaniel Scott.
	A lot of people say, don't judge a book by its cover, and don't judge a man by his clothes.
	They say this because most people do it anyway.
	And no matter how many times someone hears it, they'll still form an instant impression of you based on how you look.
	Look good now, and eventually that Hugo Boss uniform will come naturally.
	Here's a few tips for men's fashion.
	First, how clothing fits is probably the most important aspect of your outfit.
	Therefore, the great majority of your clothing should be purchased in person where you can try it on.
	You don't have to spend a fortune.
	Go to thrift stores and look for quality, not quantity.
	This is where most of my clothing comes from.
	A collared dress shirt should be snug to your body, which ideally you want to show off.
	If you can't find a shirt that's snug to your body, get one tailored.
	It's not that expensive.
	If the bottom hem of the shirt is straight, it can be worn tucked or untucked.
	But if the hem is wavy or uneven, it must be tucked in.
	The button line of the shirt should be even with the zipper line of your pants.
	Unless you're doing a physical activity or going to the beach, you should be wearing a collared shirt.
	Just that alone will put you a step above the rest of the guys around you.
	Your pants should fit a little looser than your shirt, but still snug.
	You're going to have to move your legs around a bit more than your arms.
	If you're wearing jeans, they should be dark, not like those pale, baggy jeans suburban grillers wear.
	Your pants should break at your shoes so that your socks aren't showing, but not so far that it billows down at your ankles.
	Have a few pairs of nice shoes.
	You shouldn't be wearing raggedy new balance everywhere, no matter how comfortable they are.
	Get a nice pair of casual shoes, nice boots, and nice dress shoes.
	You can keep the ragged shoes, but just for mowing the lawn.
	But what does a nice shoe look like?
	What does a well-fitted shirt look like?
	Well, dear listener, this is a podcast.
	I can't show you.
	You're going to have to Google it for yourself.
	I'd recommend searching Classic Men's Fashion, Casual Men's Fashion, or Erwin Rommel.
	Find a few pictures you want to emulate and go from there.
	You can find dozens of guides online, but don't treat them as gospel truth.
	Do a little work, it will pay off in the long run.
	Trust me.
	Since I announced the music meme last week, I am now free from it.
	This is good, because I couldn't quite find a matching piece for this next quote.
	From William Shakespeare's Henry V, the Saint Crispin's Day Speech If we are marked to die, we are enough.
	To do our country loss, and if to live, the fewer men, the greater share of honor.
	God's will, I pray thee, wish not one man more.
	By Jove, I am not covetous for gold, nor do I care who doth feed upon my cost.
	It yearns me not if men my garments were.
	Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
	But if it be a sin to covet honor, I am the most offending soul alive.
	No, faith, my cous, wish not a man from England.
	God's peace, I would not lose so great an honor as one man more methinks would share from me for the best hope I have.
	Oh, do not wish one more.
	Rather, proclaim it, Westmilland, through my host, that he which hath no stomach to this fight, let him depart.
	His passport shall be made, and crowns for convoy put into his purse.
	We would not die in that man's company that fears his fellowship to die with us.
	This day is called the Feast of Crispian.
	He that outlives this day and comes safe home will stand a tiptoe when this day is named and rouse him at the name of Crispian.
	He that shall live this day and see old age will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbors and say, Tomorrow is Saint Crispian.
	Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars and say, These wounds I had on Crispin's Day.
	Old men forget, yet all shall be forgot.
	But he'll remember with advantages what feats he did that day.
	Then shall our names, familiar in his mouth as household words, Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter, Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester, be in their flowing cups freshly remembered.
	This story shall the good man teach his son, and Crispin Crispane shall ne'er go by from this day to the ending of the world, but we in it shall be remembered.
	We few, we happy few, we band of brothers, for he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother.
	Be he ne'er so vile, this day shall gentle his condition.
	And gentlemen in England now abed shall think themselves accursed.
	They were not here, and hold their manhood's sheep while Zeni speaks that fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
	Yeah, buddy, nice job.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Brilliant.
	I would more if I wasn't holding my phone.
	It's a serious thing that changes the performance.
	It does.
	I've done it a couple of times where I put it on a desk or something like that and have kind of shouted and emoted and done all that stuff, especially with like the Hitler one.
	And I think my neighbors might have seen me through the window, but that's okay.
	All right.
	Well, there's good points there, especially about the dress.
	You know, Adolf Hitler wrote about this that, you know, we Aryans, our beautiful bodies are a gift that we have.
	And, you know, the Jew can afford to buy the expensive clothing and he could wear a designer label and he gets attention that way.
	But our Aryan natural beauty of our physiques is something that we should allow to shine forth.
	And so wearing fitted clothes, like you were saying there, is very important because even Hitler was writing about in that day, but you think of in this day with people wearing the baggy clothes and all that type of stuff, it's a very unhealthy view of the body and an unhealthy way to view how you should dress, you know, because the non-whites,
	they don't have the same beautiful physiques as Aryans.
	And also dressing in a way that reveals the physique allows the young Aryans to select their mates better because you can see the quality of the genes and the quality of the health of their body and things like that.
	That's right.
	If you got it, flaw on it.
	And if you don't got it, work to get it.
	Yes.
	How many hours have I done in the last five years on telling people how to dress?
	I know, right?
	Yeah.
	It cannot be overstated.
	It's not overstate.
	Rule number one is wear clothes that fit.
	Yes.
	We can do another hour on it next week or half an hour.
	We could bring it up.
	I could do a quick bullet point.
	Yeah.
	I got invited onto non-white nationalist platforms to talk about it because the people that are going to talk about it on our stuff.
	There you go.
	You can make a career out of that, Jay.
	And this goes for men and women, too, because, and it's not to say that the women should show their bodies in a lewd way, but they, you know, there's nothing wrong about showing the shape of the body and the health of the body.
	Especially if you're young and single.
	And, you know, I'm not talking about dress like a slut or go over with it, but there's a way to show what you're doing.
	And like, honestly, there's a there is a more room for creativity or individuality in the way that you dress if you are not letting yourself dress like a slut.
	That's right.
	There was a really cool conversation that I had with a Mormon girl.
	And she was talking about how, and she, she was just absolutely knockout gorgeous.
	And she was talking about how she knows how men look at her and how frequently they look at her and what they're thinking when they look at her.
	And that she never had to underdress.
	Now, this girl also just had the jeans for it.
	But, you know, she never wore anything low cut.
	And this is Arizona, so it's hot, you know, but she was talking the big Mormon motto, I guess, is modest is hottest.
	But it forces you to get a little bit more creative with how you're going to dress or present yourself or whatever when you're not acting like a hoe.
	Right.
	So, Nat Scott, do I have this right?
	You're still recording these things on your cell phone.
	Yes, I actually recently ordered a mic.
	So hopefully the audio quality will be a little bit higher coming up.
	Oh, well, I was going to say, like, we need to have a fundraiser for you to get a mic.
	And I estimate it to cost no more than $2,000, $3,000.
	What did you spend on your mic?
	It wasn't that much.
	I think it was less than $50.
	Ooh, we need a listener to send in $50 for Nat Scott's mic.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, that's fine.
	Well, yeah, I was joking, but less than 50.
	Well, we'll talk about it offline.
	We'll see if it works, but it'll be better than your sale foam.
	We'll do the fundraiser for the insulated sound recording booth.
	Yeah, I know.
	Fun fact, I am still on the old Audio Technica that I got when I was on the Fatherland that our palmoto donated to the Fatherland.
	And, you know, I sort of talked about it.
	Actually, I need a new mic.
	The Rode podcaster that Jesse got me finally ate it.
	All right.
	So there we go.
	I solemnly affirm, dear potential donors out there, if you want to dedicate, you could have the Coach Finstock or Joe De La Ray or Nat Scott microphone.
	If you want to pony up an ear market for it, I will.
	I'll send you the old one if you want it as like a museum piece with a piece of his optics man costume.
	It's going to be worth a lot one day.
	Yeah.
	I want to keep on going, guys, but we a bunch of us have to get up in the morning.
	Yeah.
	It was fun.
	Special thanks to Borzoy for joining us in the first half.
	Special thanks to our audience for sending in such awesome content that feeds us and lets us do our thing.
	And I'm all smiles, love all around, despite the impending doom and gloom or potential chaos of the election, especially if it's contested.
	If Trump wins, we're looking at chimp outs.
	If it's contested, we're looking at serious civil unrest.
	Probably, not definitely.
	So buckle up, fam.
	It's October 26th, 2020, the current year.
	And tomorrow is a new day to strengthen yourselves and your family.
	So real quick, Sam, thank you, buddy.
	Thank you, coach.
	Wow, what a great amount of topics we covered this evening.
	And definitely to everybody on the show and all listeners, have no fear.
	Whatever is coming, we'll get through this.
	Yeah.
	Worst case scenario, we die and go on to greater things than.
	Sorry.
	F for Smasher, not in this life, but just on this episode.
	We love you, buddy.
	Best to you, the wife, and your lovely kids, and new ones down the road for you guys.
	And JO, thank you.
	Shout out to Neil and Water.
	Water, I love that guy.
	Study gang.
	Study gang.
	Water is a hilarious guy.
	He is.
	Big fan as well.
	Cracks me up every time I hear from him.
	He looks like a cartoon character.
	I won't say what he.
	I'll just say it was a, it was a character in Futurama.
	Dude, I never, I know exactly.
	That never occurred to me.
	Oh, you know, here I am trying to give the guy props or whatever.
	Oh, I know.
	Good looking for a cartoon character.
	No homo.
	All right.
	And Matt, thank you, buddy.
	Happy to have you on.
	Thanks for pinching.
	Thanks.
	Great to be here again.
	I am uploading my bit onto BitChute slowly.
	Yes.
	So keep an eye out for those.
	What's the BitChute?
	I think it's just Nathaniel Scott.
	And there's all navigating the clouds.
	Good deal.
	Check it out on BitChute, despite their dalliance with just came across my screen before we went to tape that they were dallying with hope, not hate, I think.
	So possible new front against all of our available avenues to express ourselves lawfully, righteously, and justly.
	And Mr. Producer, you're okay too.
	I don't care what they say about you.
	He said thumbs up in the chat.
	He's a good support.
	Full house episode 66 was taped on a cold and rainy October 25th, now October 26th, 2020.
	You know where to find us.
	Telegram at ProWhiteFam, YouTube.
	We're getting toward a thousand there for streaming.
	But regardless, yes, that's right.
	We saved the best for last.
	We are going to do an election night live stream.
	The poll we put out was conclusive enough that it makes sense for us to do it.
	And we will do serious political analysis along with bad dad jokes and possibly posting too.
	We got some people.
	We've got old guests of the show want to come on.
	We got guys that think gay who will come on and mock us mercilessly for caring about so did I say the other day everyone else was watching the debate.
	I said, I'm going to do something far more dignified with my time.
	And I'm not going to complete what I said, but I'll go with what someone else said.
	Oh, slam your junk in the door for an hour.
	I assure you what I said was far more vulgar and less dignified.
	Oh, yeah, I saw that.
	And we're going to have a politico come on too, who is more knowledgeable about this stuff and keeps his finger on the pulse better than we do.
	And in terms of the important races, the Senate races and other stuff down ballot.
	So to all white fathers with delightful daughters, sugar and spice, and all that's nice, we salute you.
	And if you don't have a daughter yet, or if you might even have anxiety about having them because of sons and I know boys better, et cetera, give it up.
	They're wonderful.
	That's right.
	This week, I heard this song on Pandora.
	Pandora is a great resource for new music.
	Just put it on shuffle and it throws some gems your way.
	I heard this a couple hours before the show.
	I was going to dedicate this one to Borzoi and his lovely wife and their new white life on the way, but he picked his own song, which was great.
	But this is by a one-man band called Phosphorescent down in Georgia, and it's song for Zula.
	And I think you'll like it.
	We love you, fam.
	We'll talk to you next week, I think, and then we'll do the live stream.
	So with that, no smasher.
	All at the same time, guys, here we go.
	One, two, three.
	See ya!
	Just as fickle as a feather in the stream.
	See, honey, I saw.
	You see, it came to me.
	It put its face up to my face so I could see.
	to something I don't recognize.
	I said, Come on in.
	I will not open myself up this way.
	Now lay my face to the salt and all my teeth to the sand.
	I will not lay lights now on you.
	You will not see me fall.
	You'll see me struggle to stand to be acknowledged by some touch from his garden.
	You see the caged call.
	I said, Come on in.
	I will not open myself up this way.
	I see the shadows that we cast in the cold, clean light.
	My feet are gold, and my heart is wide.
	And we race out on the desert plains all night.
	See, honey, I am not some broken thing.
	I do not lay here in the dark waiting for thee.
	Oh, my heart is cold and my feet are light.
	And I'm ready.
	Let it make the fire ring.
	All that I know love has a caging name.
	Just a killer coming call from some awful dream.
	All my you thoughts you come to see.
	You're just standing in the glass looking at me.
	But my heart is wild and my bones are steep.

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