Luscious Massacre joins Fear & to dismantle stereotypes, arguing straight men are boring due to a fear of femininity and lack of gay community humor. She critiques cisgender white "tops" for holding "dick privilege" within LGBTQIA+ spaces while sharing her journey from Texas pageants to radical self-love. The discussion exposes internalized homophobia, analyzes straight male pornography consumption, and suggests conservative commentators like Steven Crowder secretly identify as gay. Ultimately, Massacre asserts that true confidence overrides societal rigidity, challenging listeners to embrace fluidity over binary constraints. [Automatically generated summary]
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Drag Queens and Cross-Dressers00:13:04
Damn, I need to see this picture.
We can pull them up.
So you can, oh, you can look at all of our different drags.
Oh, my God.
I think I have photos of this.
Look at these cross-dressers.
You didn't tell me there was a bunch of cross-dressers here.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome for those of you joining us from around the globe to the Fear and Podcast, where we are joined by an extraordinarily special guest, Emmy award-winning Luscious Massacre, everybody.
Oh, my God.
Hi.
I'm so excited to be here.
You know what?
We locked and loaded all the gay stuff that we were going to do for after Pride.
Yeah, homosexuality has arrived.
Yes, exactly.
Like we he took me to drag brunch like after Pride was over.
So I was like, I'm not doing it during Pride.
You know what I mean?
I don't want to come across as too much of an ally.
It was too much.
Yeah, it's too much.
It's too much progress.
Yeah.
This is why they're coming.
This is why they're coming for us.
It's too much.
Yeah, no.
We need the gays so that they can achieve more.
100%.
Honey, listen, the gays.
Yeah, no, 100%.
So we are...
Peak art cruising days.
People are out.
You can't just go to a gay bar.
You have to go to the park and whatever.
Some of the greatest artists of all time come from that era.
Yeah.
Well, also, straight people are boring.
That's true.
Oh, my God.
We were at a party last night, and I was like, oh, my God.
Straight people are incredibly boring.
Tell us about the party.
They don't have anything interesting to say.
The whole time I was like, what are we even doing?
We're the coolest people there.
What do straight people talk about?
JoJo Seewa.
We don't know really what they were talking about.
You know what it felt like?
You know that scene in Get Out where like everyone's like chit-chatting and then the person goes upstairs and then everybody cuts.
They're like, oh my God.
That's what it felt like after this part.
I was in like Get Out where they were like trying to say we're scared of us, but they were pretending to be having a good time.
I got bullied last night.
Really?
Yeah.
And I almost got in a fight because I was like, I'm not going to take this.
What did they do to you?
Well, I was waiting in line for their struggle.
And some guy comes up to me and he's like, hey, man, hey, bro.
Like, you know, the super nice guy faking it.
He's like, hey, man, hey, bro.
Hey, we were waiting.
We were actually here.
Okay.
And I'm like, I'm like, and I'm first I'm like all jolly.
I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, sure.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to.
And then I go and I'm like, wait a second.
I turn around to my people and I'm like, hey, wait, was he here?
He got you.
He got you.
You realize he's a line cutter.
He got me.
He's a line cutter.
And this girl walked up and she's like, excuse me.
And I was my disaster.
My blood was boiling and I almost got into it.
I just identified it.
Straight people, straight people are liars.
They lie to your face.
Yes.
And gay people are very honest.
Like, we tell you from this when we meet you, I say something.
I'm like, you know what?
Not really.
No, I.
The majority of homosexuals.
Straight in your face.
That's what I've been trying to say.
But he is a little bit more.
In the last series.
He lied about our co-host out of it.
No, protect me, Leslie.
No, no.
Maybe the gays a bad rap.
Tell me.
He's dressed like Aquaman went to Soul Cycle.
What are his horrible qualities?
Oh, oh, oh, oh, let me tell you.
Please.
Aside from being a liar.
Okay, illiterate.
And not only is he illiterate, but then he will also be like, no, gays just don't know words.
No, that is not true.
Like, what was it?
Let's ask her.
Luscious.
I think that straight people have words that we don't know.
Like besmirch.
I know besmirch.
I know besmirch.
Let me tell you, the girls are besmirched.
Well, she's a straight woman.
Also, besmirch.
Besmirg is also a very girls at home are besmirched.
It's a good gay word.
It's a cool game.
You besmirched me.
Yeah, it's very fantastical.
Yeah.
It's like, you know, it's like ethereum.
Well, I had this theory that on the podcast that nobody knew besmirged, and I ran that theory and I called all my gay friends and none of them knew.
Oh, well, yeah, there is a lot of homosexuals out there who are just very uneducated.
I mean, but let me tell you something.
He has a BA.
I have a bachelor's degree.
Yeah, he's a graduate degree.
I know, but it's in baby's.
Open the school.
Yeah.
Open the school.
But it's business administration.
Like, who's your, like, really?
You know what I mean?
I think Austin's show last episode.
I don't know if this is a bad quality.
I kind of like people's little piccadillos.
But last episode was maybe the funniest episode of all time to me because Austin's show refused to let anybody else do an ad read and he's horrible.
And so all three ad reads were just a descent into madness.
See how straight people, he lost me.
Oh, with all that.
That's straight.
I cut right off.
See why, and tell me why.
It was a little, you know, it just took me to the land of boring.
I want to go to clean.
Okay, well, he came in.
He came in hot.
He came in hot.
And he was like, I got this.
And he had all this like confidence.
He had the confidence of a man.
I knew Hassan would break it down like a homo.
Yeah.
He had the confidence of a man who knows what's up.
Okay.
It's drag race.
He thinks he's got it.
Okay.
He thinks he's serving.
And then he did not.
He served nothing.
I'm going to show you, Luscious, how he served nothing.
He knows the gay lingo.
He knows how to speak to the homos.
Because that's all his audience had to.
What do you think it is if you really zero in?
What is it about homosexuals that like you?
Because I feel like the homos like him.
They do.
The girl.
They do.
The girls do like him, but he's more of a homosexual than Hassan.
We have to zoom in as to why.
Will he tapped in more to the femininity because Hassan is wearing so much jewelry?
He's giving drag.
Yeah.
And this is a giving a straight man, girl.
He's just got a t-shirt.
But William has probably never been washed.
You caught Will in it.
No, this is Luscious.
You haven't met Will enough to know that this man.
Remember how he came to the drag brunch?
This is usually five hours before.
Okay, wake up.
That's a good one.
Will would show up one time and he wore high heels, a one-of-one YSL jacket, and what were the pants?
Oh, I can't remember.
Anyway, regardless, you're walking through San Diego and people kept calling him the F-Slur.
And I was holding hands with him.
How does that make you feel?
Well, I felt proud that I could catch those F-Slurs before they hit my head.
You felt the struggle.
I did.
I think he was jealous.
He's like, why aren't they saying that to me?
That was interesting.
I did notice he wanted to receive this.
I don't want to be called an F-Slur because it's terrible.
But sometimes I wonder.
Someone else is getting all that.
No.
No, no.
Sometimes I wonder, like, these guys get called it more than I do.
And I don't understand.
Like, I, I mean, look, what am I doing?
One guy to be called the F-Slur.
What am I doing here?
Am I not?
I mean, I don't know what's wrong.
And I don't want to be called it, but you know what I mean?
Sometimes I'm like, wait a second.
Well, we eat it.
We eat it.
Those words that hate, we eat it.
It makes us.
Luscious, you've only seen.
Austin's a major code switcher.
Okay.
And you've only seen him like gaying it up like super hard, right?
Right.
The Austin that we see is so different.
Do you ever trip when you see him fully in method acting?
It freaks me out.
Actress playing a straight man because I've seen it too a little bit.
Oh, no.
He is always method straight man around us.
Like, he always is.
Because I think he was in the closet for so long that that's just who he is more than like when he gazes.
He built it as a survival mechanism to survive in the world.
He created a character that is straight.
Yes.
Thank you, Luscious, for finally telling him the trauma versus the trauma.
For sure.
And then the character became him.
Like, he wore the mask too much.
Right.
And then he ate the pill.
That's right.
And he says when I'm cleaning it up, I'm code switching.
Ever, when you're when you're like, when you're having gay sex, do you ever feel like that straight man is the one who's having the gay sex?
Or is it wait?
Are you saying that, like, I feel a sense of shame?
No, no, no.
Like, no, I'm saying that straight man.
He would get so turned on if he had that.
Is that the straight man that has gay sex?
Interesting.
So, like, in what I'm trying to figure out what you mean.
Listen, come on, baby.
The homosexuals are like, you know, they love a very, like, a masculine man.
Oh.
So sometimes you also perform in the bedroom too.
Yes.
Oh, 100%.
I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm masking.
I'm mask in the bedroom for sure.
You see the gay struggle?
I gotta learn that.
Do you see the gay struggle with this man?
This man has to go.
I'm gonna tell you right now, you're seeing, like, you're saying the gay struggle.
Watch this man watch a Minnesota Vikings game.
It's a hate crime.
It's like a hate crime factory.
No, I'm serious.
He will scream at the, it scares me.
I'll be in the, I'll be in the corner like, oh my God, I'm so sorry.
Yeah.
Please don't, please don't hurt me.
I'm a football fan.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
I like him.
I didn't believe it.
That was the actor.
No.
No, I swear to God.
It's real.
Yeah.
It's real.
That's why I'm saying the mask is like who he has become.
I have a weird, I'm a weird blend.
He went into the straight world and he believed it.
He bought it.
So I kind of blend of person because like I'll watch the Vikings game, but then I'll pick.
I picked you up.
What were we listening to?
Oh, listen.
Some very homosexual music tastes.
Oh, very homosexual.
He listened like Mariah Carey.
And then every once in a while, he'll throw like shaka con or like something very old school.
And I'm like, only a homo.
Only a homo.
Thank you for validating my homosexuality.
But let me tell you, I see it in them too.
A little homosexual.
I feel like y'all also play a little character sometimes.
That's a little more fruity than natural.
We hope Queenie.
Does the fruitiness ever feel a natural, or is it just you always is a natural place?
I'm more naturally fruity than he is.
100%.
Yeah.
You're more tapped into the femininity.
Well, I grew up with straight gays, which are professional wrestlers.
They're also southern dandies.
Oh, yeah.
I think professional women.
Showgirls.
Yes.
Entertainers.
I think that they unlocked some of the best elements of being a flamboyant homosexual and a straight man.
Is there anything extremely feminine that you do that you hide it?
Because you feel like I would.
I would never let anybody see that.
But see, the cool thing about Will and my friends.
Like douching.
Like a bidet.
Do you just double?
We got bidets.
Okay.
How loud?
How strong do you turn on the wire?
I have one that is for cleaning.
Okay.
And then I have one that's like civil rights struggle power.
That is in there.
In there.
Clean cow.
Okay.
So you fully do that.
Okay.
So you do get douche in the bidet.
Yeah, yes.
I love that you, you know, a lot of straight men would never admit that.
No, but see, here's the thing, Lushes.
These straight men are very.
I try to make them uncomfortable.
I try to make them uncomfortable, but they like in their sexuality, but they're very comfortable.
No, remember when we went to Pride Last year, and the Ukrainian twink when the speedo was trying to get me to be uncomfortable, and I smacked the fuck out of his head.
Yes, he tried to say, He's like, Well, you spank me.
That's what he sounds like.
And you went to my friend Arch and you making spanks for me.
He's like, Hassan, will you spank me?
And Hassan, do you douche with your bidet?
I have a bidet in every bathroom, but that's because I'm Turkish.
So, I know, so Turks to line.
Yeah, the all of the Islamic world has bidets.
Oh, you have an obsession with a clean booty hole.
Yeah, yeah.
We have like, uh, that's like a very normal part of existence because it's almost like a religious thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, the booty hole has to be clean to feel pure.
Yeah, five times a day when Muslims pray, they clean themselves totally.
No, no, it's not.
No, I know, it's like a thing.
No, it's for no, seriously.
No, and I, I know, and I live for that because you know, it's it's cleanliness because you never know, you never know when you're gonna need the booty hole.
You never know five times a day we clean our asshole twice, that's he's cleaning his asshole five times a day.
We are not facing that's crazy, that's for prayer.
The Bidet Revolution for Men00:03:06
You heard it here first, girl.
Listen, the pit might be a lit, just a little fragrant, but the booty hole is clean, buddy.
It's just shocking that like Americans haven't gotten up with the bidet tech.
Well, that's why I'm telling y'all are different because the majority of straight men in America have a phobia of anything with their booty hole, they won't clean it.
Yeah, they even have their wipes dedicated to it.
Yeah, but they straight men will not clean their assholes.
Dude, what?
This is so silly.
It's like, dude, whatever.
The shame on femininity.
No, the fear of femininity.
I feel like the cold brew.
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Just a second, Luscious.
Excuse me.
Let me tell me.
I ordered you two cold brew.
Oh, he ordered it from Kofax.
Oh, shit.
Did he order it?
Wasteful.
We need to consolidate our orders.
Did he order coffee too?
Did you order a coffee for him too?
Oh, okay.
Just want to make sure.
This podcast is usually chaotic and messy.
Yeah, we're all over the place.
Austin, you're always going to the doctor.
Are you kidding me, Will?
I'm always going to the doctor because I'm quite the hypochondriac and I'm concerned for my health.
But you know, it really ticks me off.
What's that?
It's when I go to the doctor and it's like, oh, surprise, you're out of network.
Had no idea.
I get stuck with a big fat bill.
Can't believe it.
You know what I've been starting to use recently?
What's that?
Sol for that.
Zock Doc.
Oh, that sounds fun.
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He did it!
Now, your research with straight men cleaning booty holes, I feel like you have deflowered a lot of straight men, and this is where the research is going.
But actually, no, I'm not a fan.
I'm not a fan.
I enjoy a man deflowering me.
I'm the flower that's been through the ringer.
But you have destroyed.
You have been with many a straight man.
Oh my God, absolutely.
The majority of men that I sleep with, I sleep with in the feminine form.
So the majority of them are men who are straight and who are attracted to.
I have a theory.
You know, the human race, we don't, we really don't have answers to anything.
That's true.
I think it's not about male and female.
I think humans are attracted to either masculinity or femininity.
And I feel like the genitals really don't matter because you, I feel like you, if you are attracted enough to femininity, you will sleep with me and you will have a fabulous time.
And you will not mind that I don't have a little cookie for you.
Attracting Masculinity Over Gender00:13:13
You know, I can't give you a cookie.
Yeah.
I can give you like a pound cake, but, you know, I don't have a cookie to give you.
And I'm so sorry for that.
Let me tell you.
They love the pound cake.
They do.
They really do.
They do.
And they pound.
They really do.
Listen, I want to get more into you because I think you are a fascinating person to me.
I have this image of you at the Abbey pounding speakers, just chaos all around.
And my table full of lifelong performers are kind of all lost in twain.
And I just see this image of you speaking into your mic in an inaudible volume, fan on you, completely unfazed by anything going on.
Where did you develop such presence?
Did you perform for your family as a kid?
No, I think I developed it out of like a desperation to be seen.
Because where I come from, like I come from Brownsville, Texas.
Shout out to the RGV down in the south of Texas.
Like if you go five minutes more south, I'm in Mexico.
Right.
Where I come from, we don't get these opportunities.
Right.
Like people like me, you don't see like even me being here in this podcast is like for me, I'm like, bitch, I need to go in there and have fun and just be myself because people don't see people like me every day, especially in, you know, in mainstream America.
So it's for me, it's like, I'm here.
I'm taking the shots.
I'm taking the opportunity.
I'm here to entertain.
I'm here to people.
Listen to me.
Listen to what this drag queen has to say.
That's one thing I love about our community is they're going to be so warm to you in the comments.
And then the comments about us are going to be a little bit more complicated.
Press the number one in the comments if you're cold.
Press the number one of your comments.
No, they're going to love you.
They're going to be attacking all of us.
Especially me.
Yes.
No.
I think we get it more than you do.
Really?
You think you get more hate than me?
We found out recently that almost 50% of our audience is female, which is like really much higher.
The females consume and females are the smartest people on the planet.
So that says something about y'all that y'all are stimulating.
I didn't know that women watched me.
Oh, sweetie.
Well, I have a, like, for what I do, like, I have a fairly higher period.
Women are watching male movies.
I have a fairly higher female percentage on my YouTube than my counterparts in the space that I'm in.
Okay.
But this is much, much higher.
This is like my early days Instagram numbers like with a 50-50 split.
It's crazy.
So look at us.
What's your audience?
My audience is women, homosexuals, and a lot of bricks.
Oh, bricks.
Which is a brick.
By the way, I love that y'all have bricks here.
Y'all have cinder blocks and bricks.
Yeah.
The bricks are seen and represented.
Okay, so what is a brick?
Oh, no.
I feel like a brick is just someone in the world who the majority of society, they don't see them.
You know, maybe they're not conventionally beautiful.
Maybe people don't see their value because maybe they're plus size or they look different or they're a minority or whatever it is.
Like to me, I always say it in a shady way, but we talked about this last night.
I am really good with mixing empathy and shame.
Yeah, because this, my favorite video of yours, it was when she did a video to call out the non-passable dolls, you said.
Oh.
Yeah, I feel like those girls don't get love.
You see a lot of love for girls who are like very beautiful, very conventional.
The Hunter Schaefer.
Yeah, you're conventionally very beautiful.
Sweetie, congratulations.
You win an award.
What about the real people out there who cannot pass and who maybe look a little rough?
Maybe life is a little harder for them.
They probably get bullied more.
People see them and they're like, oh, that bitch has no value.
If you only knew the value that person has.
But people read, like, they're so obsessed with the exterior.
And I'm like, no, bitch, I want to know what's in the interior.
Are you a kind?
Are you generous?
Are you fun?
Are you entertaining?
Or are you just beautiful, but you have nothing to offer?
I'm not coming for the pretty people, but honey, no, I live for a brick.
No, I have a good brick.
We're not coming for Hunter.
Hunter, you're good to come on the pod whenever.
We live for Miss Hunter.
She's great.
Well, they got, she got arrested for protesting Palestine, you know?
I love someone who, especially in these times, a lot of people are tuning out.
And I love people that are like, no, I'm tuned in.
Yeah.
And I am going to go protest because, bitch, we're going to have to protest.
Yeah.
Like, we are going to have to protest what's happening in this country.
Yeah.
There's no option, sweetheart.
We're going to have to go to the streets and grab a brick and throw it if you have a.
Yeah.
She was so, she was so casual about it too.
Like she was there alongside the Jewish voice for peace people.
Like she was, she didn't make a big deal about it at all.
She was just there.
She got arrested.
And, you know, I feel like, especially like trans women, they're at the, that they're at the intersection of hate.
So like it always revolves around like all of the different avenues of hatred almost always come back to trans people, specifically trans women.
So for her to just like show up for another group of people that are also experiencing tremendous harm at a time when trans people are experiencing unprecedented harm was, I thought that was really awesome.
Well, you know, trans people are the, like you just said, they're the most picked apart because they're the most different.
You know, everything about them can be dissected and people can hate it and talk about it.
But they're also in the front lines because we're the ones who are going to get the most hate.
We're going to get, they're going to come for us the most.
Yeah.
So we're going to have to be in the front at the front lines being like, bitch, you're just distracting people by making trans people the enemy and blaming trans people and queer people for everything.
Honey, we're not doing anything.
We're just trying to live our life.
We're not hurting anyone.
We're just out here having fun and they can't take the fun.
Yeah.
I think it's, I mean, I've talked about this quite a bit.
This is like a big part of what I do is because I had transphobic opinions early on when I was growing up and I evolved from that.
And I use that as a way to like explain to people that they also, they too can, you know, grow out, grow out of these like outdated opinions.
And I've spent a lot of time like analyzing it.
And I think one of the things that I found that's very successful in like converting people away from transphobia is that we hold on to gender as this like incredibly rigid concept when it very clearly is incredibly fluid.
Oh my God, yes.
And one of the examples I always use is like Ben Shapiro.
Do you know who Ben Shapiro is?
I've heard.
I think I've heard.
He's like five foot four, can't grow facial hair.
He's like deeply transphobic, right?
He has like a kind of like a like a little like a baby voice, right?
And it's like, if we are both cisgender heterosexual men and there is that big of a range between me and Ben Shapiro, then you should be a lot more understanding about like how gender is not this rigid binary.
But because we are, because that's all we see from birth and it's like one of the things that we associate with and we hold on to so desperately, like, I'm a man.
That's a woman.
Girls can't play with, girls can't play with G.I. Joe and like boys can't play with dolls.
Yeah.
That it's like constantly beamed into our consciousness that it breaks people's brains when they see like someone rip that entire dynamic apart.
And that's why they get incredibly frustrated because it's like the one last thing that they think they can hold on to about like normalcy and how they understand the world.
And that's why they get so outwardly angry.
But it's obsessive.
I always say like transphobia in and of itself is like the real mental illness because they say like trans people are mental illnesses.
No, it's like transphobia is a mental illness because they refuse to they refuse to recognize this is a real thing.
And eventually.
And this is what I wanted to get to.
And I don't know if you know this.
Have you ever seen Transvestigators?
Do you know what that is?
I was telling her about it.
You don't know about Transvestigators?
No, it's funny because my show on YouTube is called Track Vestigation.
I know, and I always think of Transvestigations.
She's taking it back.
She's taking it back.
Oh, my God.
I mean, she's already readopted Brick.
It's like a pleasant term.
But yeah, I didn't.
Was that a, was, oh, okay.
It's a little bit of both.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm telling you.
Empathy with a little bit of shade.
Always.
If you didn't know, yeah, Brick is like, you don't want to be called it.
The negative.
It's a.
Am I a brick?
Oh, what does brick rep?
What does it mean in the straight world?
No, no, no.
I'm saying in the trans world, brick means like no.
Well, I feel like, yes, sure.
A brick is someone who is maybe a little hard or rough, you know, like that.
But at the same time, I lift her and we explore it and we push it to the future.
And I want to show love to the bricks.
Yeah.
You know, the bricks need love too.
Can you imagine being a brick?
How hard that is?
Yeah.
He could never imagine.
I mean, his life has been when I do drag.
Oh, I know.
Ugly.
That's what I am.
That's an ugly woman.
He's fucking odd.
His shoulders don't self-defense.
It's really funny.
It's really funny because people will post photos of me in drag to be like, fuck you, you did this.
And I'm like, bro, I still look more masculine than you ever were.
Damn.
I need to see this picture.
We can pull them up.
Oh, you can look at all of our different drags.
Oh, my God.
I think I have photos.
Look at these cross-dressers.
You didn't tell me there was a bunch of cross-stresses here.
You need to explain.
I think we need to encourage straight men.
Okay, what's your feminine name, your female name, deep inside your heart?
Deep inside.
I go with Cherries Jubilee.
Cherries.
Okay.
Cherries likes to get popped.
What's your feminine female name?
Donna?
Yeah.
Which is a real like.
Hello, everybody.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Oh, you have to do that.
Oh, my God.
I did a whole season of a show.
Oh, my God.
That is rough.
That is offensive.
That is offensive.
Please hire a makeup artist and a hairstyle.
You got the money.
This is a network.
Whoever got shoot needs to be stopped.
They stopped shooting camera, girl.
You can't salvage.
You can't salvage anything.
But let me tell you something.
That woman, she would still get pounded by a tray.
Yes.
She would pull a train.
No cookie.
What would you do if a man comes up to you and starts hitting on you?
In drag?
Yeah.
I think I'd kind of go from, oh, hi.
Hey, how you doing?
No, I think you lived in Hollywood for as an experience.
You only live once on planet Earth.
Don't you want to experience that?
Before you don't.
Tell her your dress.
Tell her.
Here's your story.
I have had straight sex and drag and I loved it.
Oh.
No, go deep.
Dig deep.
Tell her the real truth.
Wait, I don't know.
Tell her what you told me.
Listen, we grew up.
Okay.
We grew up not the prettiest.
Listen.
Okay.
Okay, you were bricks.
We were bricks.
He and I also come from very, like, I would say, traditionally masculine homes.
Yes.
And we were kind of like, we're both kind of built like ogres in our own homes.
Yeah.
Okay.
And I see us.
So when I first got pretty, I made love to a very attractive woman and I felt very pretty.
You felt fragile.
Yes.
And delicate.
Yes.
Because also up until that point, I was like 21 years old.
When I was fucking, I was trying to put someone's head through drywall.
You know what I mean?
Like there was a lot of built-up testosterone.
So that was the first time.
I saw you and you like a butterfly.
Yeah.
Do you remember what when was that?
How old are you?
21 years old, 22.
Yeah.
Before that, brick.
Brick.
So that's the, so you were in, what led up to that?
Were you just.
Was it a haircut?
No, there was a fundraiser.
We were doing a fundraiser and it was for, I think it was for Trevor Project.
Yeah.
And they came to me and they're like, Will, you know, you're, you're always working out and you, they'd be really cool if as like the ultra straight guy, you did this.
Oh, yeah.
And I was like, all right.
Yeah, the straightest guy that we have.
And then I got a little drunk and then I started talking to this girl and then we hooked up and I was still in my garb.
Uh-huh.
Wig and everything and lashes.
Yes.
I had a bando and the tits kept falling out.
Oh my God.
So you're literally titties on her back.
Titties on her back.
Oh my God.
And I loved it.
Yeah.
Wow.
The way he described it to me was like, I felt so pretty.
I felt very pretty.
Oh my God.
It was like you were a lesbian for the night.
Yes.
Scissor me timbers.
Will.
Hot Sauce and Lesbian Vibes00:15:20
If there's one thing I know about you, it's that you like to push some product.
I do.
Yes, you do, specifically your hot sauce.
My sauce that's hot.
Oh, yeah.
And it's absolutely delicious.
When you were searching for a place to put it, where were you going to sell?
Oh, like a mortar store.
I looked everywhere, but Shopify was where I ended up landing.
Oh, really?
Tell me about it.
Well, Shopify is a must for anyone that's engaging in internet commerce.
Myself, Judy Cinderella, and Hassan Piker all use it.
And what they do is they use a lot of smart methods like promoting a cart that's been built.
How many times have you put items in a cart and not checked out?
Oh, every time.
Every time.
And Shopify will send push notifications to remind you.
That's right.
To make me feel guilty, I should have bought that.
That's right.
So that's why you need to sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com slash fear.
That's right.
Go to shopify.com slash fear.
Cha-ching.
Girls, the things these people do.
That's what I'm saying.
Will has had some.
I think Ben Shapiro, maybe that's what Ben Shapiro needs.
He needs to have some dragons.
To make him change the channel.
If he did drag once, and he would like it so much.
He's like an art kid.
He grew up playing the violin from an LA family.
He's just, you know what it is?
He's a bitter bitch.
It's what it is.
It's definitely at home.
There's something about his life.
He's not taking care of.
So he's not well.
Yeah.
And that unhappiness, he projects it.
And his phobia is these queers.
I have to come for the queer.
Bitch, the queers at home, why are you so allergic?
Why are you so obsessed with the girls at the house?
I think it's the opposite.
I think they treat homosexuality like it's fentanyl, where it's like, if I try it one time, I'm going to be hooked.
You know what I mean?
Like, stay away from the gay.
Any little bit of gay, and they're going to kill you.
So maybe he's afraid that he might be a little gay.
So there is that for sure.
You know what?
To some extent, they're onto something because I tried.
Come on out, Cleanie.
Come on out, Ben Shapiro.
Come on out.
I tried it.
We're going to welcome you and receive you.
We're going to shade you.
I tried it.
So they're onto something.
Will's onto something.
You're exposing your trouble.
Ben Shapiro.
I tried homosexuality.
And then here.
And then here I am.
Ben Shapiro, this is your future.
This is your future can look like Aquaman.
Yeah, let me tell you this man.
He gets laid.
I do.
I do.
You know what they say?
Because you know Ben Shapiro, he don't get laid.
No.
You know what they say about the Republican National Convention every time they're in town for something.
Oh, grinder.
Go.
This actually is something that I wanted to do with Lushes.
Go to the Republican National Convention.
Who tells you I haven't been?
Let me tell you.
I've been out there servicing the community for years.
No, honestly, listen.
I'm going to talk about this.
Dolls, we do a service to the community because a lot of these men, they're so pent up, they're so frustrated.
And then they come and they sleep with us and then they leave and they're calm and they're like, oh, you know what?
The world is right again.
And so it's we do, we do a community service by giving pleasure and entertaining.
Lushes.
We need to send you into a swing state.
Let me tell you.
We are so giving.
We are so giving and we are so important for society because without us, what would all these men do?
Who would they sleep with?
Lushes, I'm telling you, you could the margins of these elections are so close.
You could flip away.
Bring the dolls in on buses.
Yes, they're not buses.
Bus the dolls.
During the Republican convention, bring us in and we will heal fascism.
The dolls bake sale.
I want to do a quick segment with you, right?
Yes.
Since you are the expert.
So there's two different types of queer phobes and homophobes.
I think there is the type that we just identify, which is like maybe a little in the closet and like a little afraid of their hidden underlying sexual desires that they're like actively suppressing.
And then there are people who are just like straight, hateful.
Like they're straight and they're hateful and they just like despise evil.
Yeah, they're just like purely extra evil, right?
Because the repressed ones are sometimes even more evil than the straight ones.
So the question I had for you, if we could, if we could look through this, is like, Ben Shapiro, do you think Ben Shapiro is straight and hateful, or do you think he's a little, you know, maybe he's a little like interested and in the closet?
No, I think it's what Will just said.
I think it's a little combination of sure, he doesn't like the girls, he doesn't like the gays, but he's also part of this machine where he has to be fake about it and say he really hates them.
You know what I mean?
Like it's fake.
These people are fake.
March, pull up.
Ben Shapiro reviews wicked.
They're all just following the leader, honey.
I need you to just quickly glance through this man's review of the new wicked documentation.
And I want you to tell me if you think this is potentially a, yeah, just going like the one of the high notes.
Oh, no, they're all just fans of the dolls.
Let me see.
Those are like right after.
Most replayed is probably right after the ad.
That's probably why he's like skipping it.
But sure, this could be one of the parts.
Now I want to go through the numbers one by one because this musical, as all music is.
Oh, he's in full beat.
He lives or dies on the numbers.
I know Jamaica.
I'm a big fan of the theater.
I grew up on musical theater.
My father's shit.
His eyebrows are done, honey.
In Israel, which we will be doing.
He's got that honest town type every hill.
A musical is only as good as the numbers and the production of the numbers.
The numbers are looking at it as a libretto.
That'd be a problem.
But every time people sing, it's Steven Schwartz music and Steven Schwartz's lyrics, which are good.
So we're going to go through these one by one.
They're not all equivalently good.
I do have particular issues with the last number, but let's go back to some of this.
Some of the numbers.
A lot of people.
No.
These people are at home are not.
Wow.
That's so boring.
I'm telling you, these straight people already, I was already tuning out.
My eyes were glazing over.
That was the happiest I've ever seen him when talking about wicked.
And I think that, like, I love he said the lyrics are good.
Yeah, no, bitch, you must be gay because the lyrics are gay as hell.
He loves musical theater.
Oh, Lord.
Because he comes from that background.
He's like, he's that guy.
Do you know who Steven Crowder is?
No, I don't.
What is he another hateful straight man?
So, no, this one is not a straightforward hate.
Oh.
Look up like Steven Crowder playing it full.
That sounds like a hateful straight man.
Oh my God.
That is, we're living in the hateful straight man movie right now.
Yeah, this is a guy that'll dress up as a woman.
He loves he, yeah, that one's fine.
Yeah.
But he loves doing drag.
Oh, he's a troll.
He's one of those trolls.
I've seen that.
Oh, my God.
The break if I've ever seen it.
But here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
Yeah, but this is offensive.
He's like, literally.
He is.
But also.
Let me tell you something.
This man may or may not be having sex with men in a wig at home.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Absolutely.
He's a professional bottom and he knows how to douche very well.
Actually, he might be just shitting all over them.
He gets that energy.
He's painting trade.
He's painting the trade down.
Let me tell you.
This woman doesn't fool me, honey.
I've seen her life story.
That is a very dirty, dirty girl.
A very dirty girl.
There's like a level of attention to detail here in his drag that, I mean, in her drag.
You know what's so sad is he is actually alive when he is wearing that wing.
Yes.
He's living his life.
He feels so like, oh my God, I'm giving, I'm letting them have it.
He is lighting up when he's in that wig.
And that's so sad because society and his world that he comes from will not let him just live.
Yeah.
He is feeling so much.
If I just do whatever I want to do and enjoy my life, they're going to hate me.
They're not going to accept me.
And so he's got all that internalized hate.
But you can see he's playing.
Sweetie, come on out.
Another one.
Come on out.
Come on out.
Another hateful.
We're going to show you love over here.
Hassan Piker because he thought he could get away without showing you respect.
He showed mine.
You are in chains.
No, I told him the other day when I met him.
Let's do it.
Very handsome man.
Look up a Hassan Piker.
A rough woman.
Well, it was at, it was at.
Yes, it did.
I told you.
I looked it up before.
Oh, no, just for reference.
He's the one on the left.
He looks like a carbia.
He's got pretty eyes.
He looks like an auntie.
Did you just say he has pretty eyes?
His eyes look pretty crush on Hassan.
No, no, no.
I do not.
Get off my drag and big Bertha.
You're like, bring eyes.
Focus on the irony.
That is my drag name.
Pull his ass back up.
Brick.
Brick.
Oh, wow.
Hold on.
You know what it is?
You know what it is?
It's because Hassan is trying.
He's trying to give like sexy, like, he's trying to give Kardashian.
You know what?
Hold on.
He's trying to give the Kardashian experience.
I think he...
You look good as an auntie.
Like, I think there's a place in the world for you both are frogs.
Okay, do the main motherfuckers.
Yeah, a rough buzz.
A rough, motherly fan.
It's attractive.
Now see Austin.
I'm trying to show you.
Also, yeah, the worst of all of us is him.
And it's crazy that he like tries to.
Are you kidding me?
He tries to move away.
No, no, no.
This one is fine, but that same in the negligent.
Not in the lingerie.
You're already ready for trade.
You have no idea how many straight men will sleep with you just with that little dress on.
Really?
Yes.
Ben Shapiro, they're right there.
The girls are right there.
That same night, if you can find Austin and Dragon that same night that I was in drag, that's a good idea.
I'm going to ask you then.
I'm going to ask a very, very serious question.
If we could Achieve world peace, but all you had to do was go and sleep with Ben Shapiro in that little dress.
Would you do it?
Yeah, 100%.
You would let him rail you.
Yeah, I don't give a shit for world peace.
I've talked about this before.
It's not even a question.
Ben Shapiro, you can't people would please take the offer.
World peace.
It's at stake.
People will be like, oh, would you like suck a dick for health care for all?
I'm like, yeah, yeah, give me the dick.
I'll suck it.
I don't give a shit.
Okay, have you thought about the dick?
Not really.
Like the size of it, what it would look like.
I don't really care.
Whatever comes.
Does it have veins on it?
I'm telling you, for Medicare for all, I would suck whatever kind of dude they throw in my house.
I'm going to put something out there.
If I'm going to suck a dick, it's going to be a big, beautiful dick.
Okay.
I'm not going to.
With skin.
A lot of skin hanging over and big balls.
Hey, big cat.
I'm going to say something great.
I would eat pussy for universal honey.
Wow.
Wow.
What?
Hold on.
It's brave.
Hold on.
Don't let us.
Don't let us have the spotlight, man.
Cookie, honey, cookie.
I just had to say it.
Yeah.
Because they were having their moment.
We weren't even in the middle of the day.
We were talking a little bit too much about penis.
Yeah, but you have to bring in the vagina.
It's so brave of them to suck dick, but I can't eat pussy and I can't get it.
This is why he has to like, he has to be.
I've been so fucking quiet this episode.
I had to say something.
Okay.
His contribution to the episode was vagina.
Yeah.
Honey, we're having a conversation about dicks.
Okay.
We're having a conversation about world peace.
Before we get to the Patreon, I do want to do something.
I want to show the clip of you that I saw where I fell in love with you.
He showed me.
That's what he said.
I found this creator influencer I fell in love with.
Please pull up.
You're the first guest that I brought to the podcast.
Yes.
Really?
What an honor.
What is the name of the Walmart one?
Just look up Luscious Master.
Scoring.
Luscious Master TikTok, and then we can scroll.
I just want people to, because you have, what I love about you is I used to do stand-up.
I used to do improv, and you remind me of like some great stand-ups where the funniest part about you is your delivery.
You just have this cadence rhythm that absolutely kills me.
And I don't know where you developed it, but you also have a few catchphrases.
Yes.
That absolutely send me a lot of people.
Which I also, I'm very, like, it's very surreal living in a world where I have catchphrases because that's generally how I speak.
Yes.
Like it's not, I'm not like thinking like, okay, what's my catchphrase?
I genuinely just talk like that.
Yes.
And so now when I go out, people are like, creature screaming at my face.
And I'm like, oh my God.
I have stolen creature.
I use it all the time where I go, creature.
And the other one, bitter.
Oh, the girls are bitter.
This is the one.
This is a little preview.
What is this?
Yeah, what do I do of Luscious Music?
When I do something, I'm going to do the Pride Collection at Walmart, which is atrocious.
I love that.
I have said, okay, I don't know if you're a seen this yet, but I have so much smoke for like the rainbow merch.
I feel like you can't.
You can't be liberated.
And then after the moment of liberation, when you want to turn it into like a consumable commodity, make it so fucking ass.
Yeah.
Well, you're gay.
What is this?
She clocks.
She clocks it.
It's also a collection.
Okay, let's see.
We need some of this.
This better not be ants.
This better not be it.
You better not have reduced us to a little bin.
Where's the security?
Where's the Walmart employee?
I'm here to make a complaint.
Don't do this.
Don't do it.
This little gondola.
That's it.
This little squirrel.
Girl, this is busted.
This is atrocious.
Look at this.
A little rainbow hat, honey.
How much is this?
I knew the shade and the disrespect was going to be subtle, honey, but it was going to be swift and hard.
Honey, that's coming for the girl.
Look at that.
You can barely even see the pants.
The horrible tutor fits most, baby.
It don't fit me.
I don't want to do this.
How much is the $7.48?
Absolutely not.
The footwear time.
We got the pride flag for $7.48.
This is what we have introduced to under the Trump regime.
That's all you have right here.
No, don't tell me that.
Why did they do that to us?
It's so small, girl.
The level of smile is just sound.
Okay, pause.
What effect are you putting on your voice?
Because it sounds like you are an organizer and a protest.
You have to just sad boy.
I started putting them in my videos because it just made it easier for me to edit like the little because I edit my show.
You do everything.
I do.
I'm a woman.
I'm a pony show.
And so I edit everything and I started just adding these little voiceovers that I had done for like a drag mix a while back.
So I had the audios already on my computer of just me randomly being like, bitter, creature.
Editing with Sad Boy Voiceovers00:14:53
And I add, and now it's become this thing where people are like, we love, they love the little sound effects.
Oh, it's the best.
And people, and what's what's awesome about Lush is when we go out in public.
Oh my God.
It's like I'm talking about the power.
You could be the mayor of We Ho.
No, like you, you get out when I first met you and I didn't know what was going on.
We got out of a car and somebody went creature.
And I went, oh my God, Luscious.
In a random place too, like in a corner in an alley.
I didn't know when to add.
I thought it was like a, like, I thought it was somebody being a creature.
Yeah.
They might have been reading me.
Can I ask you when Luscious first started to take form?
Like, do you think she was always there?
Or do you remember a moment in which you kind of started creating this forward-facing persona for yourself?
It definitely was from the world of drag.
You know, like the in Texas, we're so obsessed with pageants.
It's like we build a community, a safe space where we go and it's almost like we create our own celebrities.
So like in Texas, you want to become the queen with the crown.
That's like becoming the star.
And so I started in that world.
And then, you know, RuPaul Straggrace came out and it inspired me even further.
I was like, oh my God, I can see more.
Right.
I can see more than just having a crown and, you know, being a local known person.
I'm like, I can, I can go into the world and spread my gospel all over, you know, and just tell people it doesn't really matter what anybody thinks about you or anyone's opinion.
The only opinion that matters is mine.
How do I feel when I walk in the room?
In any room, it doesn't matter what you look like, where you're from.
If you walk in with that confidence, bitch, you could, these people in this room, I can't be bothered.
My opinion.
And that's how we need to navigate the world.
Your opinion is the only one that matters.
How do you feel about yourself?
Yeah.
I don't give a fuck what Ben Shapiro thinks about me.
So Ms. Shapiro can eat my ass and he'll probably enjoy it too.
When's the first time you showed up as Luscious?
I've been doing drag for about 11 years or 12 years.
But what, yeah, it's has she transformed from the first time she took the stage to now?
Oh my God.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And for me, it's just more the confidence is luscious.
Yes.
That complete insane person who is so in love with themselves.
I am 100% in love with myself.
I've come to a place where I can genuinely say that, but it took me a long time because for so much of my life, I did not love myself.
I didn't feel like anybody loved me.
I didn't feel seen, but I had to see me.
I had to discover me.
You know, like, I don't, you know, like people, you go through life, and you know, you want to be an entertainer, you want to be a star, you want to be a actress, and you're waiting for someone to discover you.
Bitch, I discovered myself, right?
And I realized, oh my God, I'm so sickening.
And I have to go out there and let these people and that's the that's stretch vestigations.
It's me walking in a room and being like, I'm sickening.
Who are you?
Come over here, little girl.
Show me this shoe from the rat.
This $2 shoe.
I want this.
You know, like this, you have to believe in yourself.
Yeah.
And this is just me radically accepting myself and believing in myself.
And I can't be bothered what all of these conservative fascists think about people like me because I will never see it and I will never believe what they're telling me they see for me.
Can I ask you a question?
As someone who works in humor, this is a genuine question.
Why do you think the gay community right now has a better sense of humor than straights?
Because it's just true.
Well, it's because we have to, for survival, we just don't take it too seriously.
You can't sit there and stay in that shit.
Right.
A lot of people go to that darkness and they stay there and they can't jump.
You can't change the channel.
We were just talking about this the other day.
I'm like, you have to be able to change the channel because you got to keep moving.
It's life.
You only get to live once.
Can you imagine something happened, right?
And you stayed there and you stayed in that corner in that room in that dark cave.
And you just never came out because you couldn't just not take it so seriously.
Just change the channel, bitch.
I'm going to switch gears a little bit and I'm going to throw some controversial statements your way.
Okay.
And I want to see what your take is on this.
Okay.
It was getting too real for him.
No, He's trying to feel like this man.
I think you're going to like it.
It was coming up.
Never mind.
Okay.
Cis white tops are the straight men of the LGBTQIA plus.
See, I do feel like that question was a little targeted.
Wait, hold on.
Repeat that one more time.
I got to say that.
No, there's gender.
White tops.
I'm Lebanese.
Cisgender white tops are the straight men of the gay community.
They're entitled.
I can see that.
The male privilege.
Yeah.
The dick privilege, too.
It's very real.
Look, I think they deserve it.
He's defending himself.
Do you feel like you have dick privilege?
100%.
Yeah.
100%.
Because you're the one who's 100%.
You're the one who provides the dick.
So life.
I know as a straight-passing gay man.
I mean, I don't know how straight-passing I am.
You are straight passing.
He is.
But as a straight-passing gay man, my queer experience is completely different than some of the people.
The door opens.
Boom.
Yeah.
Some of my door opens.
Yes.
Yes.
The girls are ready.
Oh, you're talking about my experience getting your experience navigating the gay world as a cisgender white top.
The girls just lean over and I get rejected sometimes.
People don't always.
It's rare.
Oh, somebody.
It's rare.
No, people don't.
Not everybody wants to sleep with me.
I mean, but I have tremendous privilege and I can be like, that's what I, you know, I like it.
Penis privilege is very real.
Let me tell you.
So, but, but sometimes I wish if I had a humongous penis.
Yeah.
I don't have a humongous penis.
Well, if I did, okay, I feel like I would already rule the world.
Really?
Yeah, the penis privilege would let me move ahead so much better.
These men have big penis.
Can I be honest?
Big penis is a straight man doesn't really get you that far.
No, but maybe you need to advertise it.
It does.
What do you mean it's advanced?
It doesn't.
No, the confidence that comes from it.
It's not very confident.
They haven't even, they don't really advertise it.
I advertise it for you.
And I haven't even talked about it.
It's sort of an energy.
You should go to a gay club and just whip your penis out.
I guarantee you.
I guarantee you.
You will feel powerful.
Yeah, yeah.
You will feel powerful.
I will tell them.
Drop to their knees in front of you.
I lived in West Hollywood for like 10 years.
I worked out at a gay gym and I remember at first I was kind of like, oh, what's it?
And then like a year in, I would feel bad if I wasn't getting checked out.
Has anybody noticed that?
Explain that to crazy attention.
And straight men, when gay men give you compliments, what does that feel like?
Well, I think when I was unenlightened.
Yeah, they do.
I think when I was unenlightened, you get worried, kind of, because you're told that, you know, this is taboo or whatever.
And then you realize you're like, you're a fucking adult with agency.
If you don't want to have sex with this person, you don't have sex with this person.
Take the nice compliment, be an adult, and live your fucking life.
Yeah, I'll take it.
I don't give a shit.
You also get to, you know, is it better coming from a gay man?
Women don't compliment men often because I think they're afraid to you.
No, they're afraid that you're going to try and fuck them.
See, you know what's interesting is I was at the...
They don't want to give you the power.
We were at that party last night, and I don't really care about women's attention at all.
That's a lie.
No, no, no.
You don't.
I swear to God.
No, no, no.
I mean, it's like a cool, it'd be a cool bonus if a woman came up to me and she's like, oh, you were attractive.
Fold.
This is why we think homosexuals.
This is he's the reason.
You know what?
I'm clear enough that I'm going to set a trap.
I'm going to wait like two weeks and then I'm going to grab one of our friends who's a girl and I'm going to be like, go up and start showering all sorts of compliments right now.
And you're going to fold like a fucking launcher.
You're going to do this.
We're going to do this.
Oh, he's going to laugh.
Well, who does it?
What else am I supposed to do?
He's already folded.
You're already folding.
What else am I supposed to do to accomplish?
We are talking about a man.
I'm held captive by somebody giving me compliments.
What am I supposed to do?
We are talking about a man who will present as straight sometimes just to see if he can hold the attention of shredding.
Yes, come on.
No, no, no, no, they cannot have it both ways because they say when I meet girls, I code switch, which isn't.
No, you do both.
You do both.
What about the woman on the plane?
The one who was like, okay, okay.
Okay, this is a real story.
He's on a plane with a woman.
Yes.
And he goes, he goes, she goes, I wasn't holding her.
No, she does grab me.
I get very nervous of flying.
Can I hold you?
And Austin didn't say anything.
He thought of telling her he was gay, but instead he went, this is an app where you can track people.
Okay, here's awesome.
When a woman hits on me, it's rare.
But when a woman hits on me, because I try to give signs.
Right.
There were signs.
But I try to give signs.
When a woman hits on me, I get uncomfortable and I don't know what to say.
I feel bad.
Oh.
I feel bad because she's hitting on me and like she's enjoying this.
And so I hit on her back sometimes because I don't know what to do.
Okay.
So they are right in that.
I get nervous and I don't know what to do.
And I'm a piece of money.
I'm a piece of cheese.
I'm a bull.
And the conversation got very heterosexual.
I checked out.
Let me tell you, the heterosexuals.
We need to bring it up.
We've heard enough about the heterosexuals.
We've heard enough.
I got more controversial gay, queer statements.
Give me another one.
Let's see if you agree or disagree.
Okay.
This is something that you kind of briefly mentioned when we first met.
None of these are my opinions for the record before people get mad at me.
Guys into dolls, even though they're straight, are a little zesty.
What's with this new term zest?
The hasty word.
The zesty.
It's illustrative.
It's illustrative.
rather just be called a f ⁇ ing right just as an FAG the behavior is a little bit in the wonderful unproblematic way of looking at it the unproblematic woke approach is your pan right or your your questioning things like that but do you have a pan man disagree or are they just straight across the board you know i think they're attracted to the femininity i'm telling you it's not even like humans try to break it down to It's a man,
it's a woman, all these things with gender.
I think it just comes down to femininity.
Men, the majority of men, are attracted to femininity.
So I think this is just natural.
Now, when you say femininity, is that an image or is that an attitude?
Is that what it is?
Yeah, it's like an aura.
It's a way of carrying yourself.
Like I've had a conversation.
I was dating this guy and he would be like, we would have sex and I would be a woman.
And then after we would like, I would take everything off and just present as a man.
And we would go down and have lunch.
And he would tell me, I would tell him, I'm like, I feel like I'm two people.
Yeah.
Because sometimes I present as a woman for you.
And then at other moments, I present as a man for you.
Was he not attracted to you in your male form?
He was not as enthusiastic about my masculine form as he was about the feminine form.
But he would tell me, to me, what I see is a feminine creed, like a feminine person.
It's your whole entire aura is just feminine, regardless of my presentation.
So that still attracted him and allured him in.
And, you know, the dollar.
Was it a mandatory that every time you slept with them, you had to be no, I enjoy it.
Oh, you enjoy it.
I feel the most attractive and sexual when I'm a woman.
Okay.
Personally, it makes me feel the most powerful.
Do you ever get trayed and then they say, take it off?
Oh, of course.
They've tried to take my wig off.
And the whole time I'm like, no, you're going to be, I feel like a man.
If I take my wig off, I feel like a man.
Yeah.
You don't want to feel like a man.
They're trying to undress.
How dare you?
Yeah, no.
And you tell them.
I can't do it.
I always have to wear like neckliches, fish snips, some panties, like the whole experience.
This skin has to be smooth and supple, smelling good, you know.
And I'm sure that, you know, that's, those are feminine things that y'all are attracted to.
No, that's mine.
So, okay.
Speaking of which, this is actually a great segue into my other question.
What I have in my hand is an iced coffee, which is also known as the gayest beverage.
Okay.
Right?
Right.
So the question I have for you is, what are some gay traits that everyone that everyone partakes in?
That everyone partakes in?
I don't know.
Regularized gay traits.
Oh, popularized.
Like something that, something that a straight man does where you're like, oh, that's gay as hell that you did that just now.
Masturbating to gay porn.
Okay, that's pretty gay.
That's gay.
But they partake in it sometimes, don't they?
I honestly have no idea what's straight.
I'm so interested is that a lot of straight men.
The straight zeitgeist, I don't know what they're doing.
What are y'all doing?
Let me tell you something interesting that I find about straight men is a lot of straight men when they watch porn, they need another man in there.
Oh, yeah.
You need a penis.
Yeah, they need a penis in a single thing.
That's very interesting.
That's a nice one, too.
You can't have a bad, you can't have a bad one.
What's so interesting to me is when I started watching porn and I watched straight porn, I also needed a penis, but I wouldn't look at anything else.
Okay.
You would just look at the penis.
Yeah.
The penis with distinction.
The man.
I couldn't understand.
But the other thing is, is that a lot of straight men need the man to be attractive looking as well.
Oh, no.
I want the man to.
I want the man to be.
No, some of them like an ugly man.
I don't feel like a brain girl.
I don't want the man to look ugly.
Okay.
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I can't.
No, for sure.
I need the man to be attractive.
Do you need him to have a big penis?
What?
Do you need him to have a big penis?
Well, penis size isn't as important as like if they have like a tiny one, then it's like, no, I can't get into it.
Okay, so he is a little bit of a size queen.
But okay.
Yeah, I'm a little bit of a size queen, but I think what if it's bigger than yours?
Does that kind of turn you off a little bit?
No, I think he likes it.
But for me, the major, the thing that matters the most is that she's actually into it.
Or at least it's convincing enough.
You need to hear her moan.
And I feel like, I feel like if it's like a schlubby dude who's unattractive, I feel like she's not actually into it, so I can't get into it.
Okay.
That's my big thing.
The psychology of it.
The mental change.
Because I've thought about it.
Because I have no, like, I have no fear to be like, oh, like a dude is hot or something.
Like, I don't give a shit.
I've said it before.
Like, if there was a dude that did it for me, I'd fuck a dude.
I don't know.
Right.
You know, you'd be telling me.
I just have yet to encounter the man.
You can find the man who does it for you.
Would he have to be feminine, you think?
Like a feminine man?
Yes.
He probably.
Probably.
Yeah.
With like a wig on, maybe.
I don't know.
I just, if it's never companies.
So we'll see.
I'll tell you.
It might have been.
I'll let you know.
I think you might have a future moment, like a future experience with a doll.
I feel like one of the girls can give you the experience.
Maybe.
Yeah.
But my point is, my point is, like, for me, it has to be like, it has to be as close to real as possible.
Like, the enjoyment.
The real.
Oh, the enjoyment of the woman.
Yeah, it's all about the enjoyment of the woman for the moment.
Otherwise, I can't get into it.
Okay.
And I feel like, I guess, in my fucked up head, I feel like they're only enjoying it if the dude is attractive.
Okay.
I like sport fucking.
Oh, what is that?
Like super aggro athletic.
That's Olympic.
Give me a fucking.
Oh, so, but the man needs to be like, yeah.
Give me like a back arch.
Put someone in the stratosphere.
Put me in the middle.
Like you see how they are also attracted to the masculinity.
Yes.
There has to be a certain level of masculinity that they need in their corn.
Yeah.
See, this is what I'm saying.
This is this speaks to the fluidity of sexuality.
It goes to show you how the human race functions and how stupid it is that people upset over the this and that.
And to be honest, I am also attracted to the femininity.
In a man.
Yes.
You need a touch.
A little bit.
Just a little bit.
In the man.
I like because if it's too overwhelming, like, for example, these two men.
You can't be with another alpha in the room.
You will need to be the alpha.
That's right.
Did you say a little bit?
You like twinks.
Hold on.
No.
But Christian's like, they always say I like twinks, but you've met Christian.
He's like a twonk.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's a twonk.
And he's also, he exhibits a lot of alpha qualities.
One thing I want to say is, I do think one thing Hassan and I have noticed and one thing we try and maintain is by us, by us being kind of broy and unashamed and unafraid to hang out with our more gay counterparts and friends.
Yeah.
We want to kind of subconsciously send a message to a lot of young men that maybe identify with us less than being gay, less than being pan, and show them it's like you can have way more fun.
You can be way more comfortable if you accept everybody and you don't have to shut yourself off from this way of life.
I truly think everyone should try drag.
I think straight the straightest of straight guys should try drag and give it an authentic try and see how you feel.
In the same way you were talking about what's this fuck Canadian guy.
Steven Crowder.
Steven Crowder.
Did look alive, turned on, he's living his life.
There is a couple, there are a couple conservative commentators that I know.
When they do that to like as as a form of mockery in their mind, you can see a light shining in their eyes where they're all they're living, where they're like, oh my god, this is who I actually am.
And then they actively suppress that side of themselves.
Like i'm not making the argument that, like all homophobes are secretly gay or whatever, like there's plenty of straight assholes out there that are super, super violent and vicious and evil.
Matt Walsh is one of them.
I mean, he's a freak.
Do you know who that is?
I have no idea who that woman is.
Don't worry, don't worry about that, don't worry about um, but like, but like.
There are definitely some where you can tell like you're, you got it, there's something not.
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Yes, and even who's in the closet as well.
Uh, in the paywalled portion of the broadcast.
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That man is just not.
Well no, I know it's crazy, though.
Do you, do you see that?
Do you see, like the stage presence and the queening of Donald Trump?
A little bit a character, and he knows he's at the top of this thing, that he has to portray that yeah, which it just proves more that he's such a sellout, because you know, deep down, he doesn't have a problem with queer people, because he does want to.
He's so narcissistic like he's just worried about his hotels getting beat on his face by just random women, Like, he doesn't care about the queers, but you know, he is playing that character.
He loves Andrew Lloyd Weber too much to not be a little bit.
He's a showgirl.
Yeah.
He's an entertainer.
But he's an entertainer who's run wild and has become a crazy, crazy, raging narcissist.
Yeah, which happens to a lot of people.
And, you know, he understands that I'm in a position where I have to be this, you know, the face of this movement.
And the movement is horrible.
And the movement is absolutely atrocious and it's Move