The Gang Tackles Problematic Age Gaps | Fear& dissect the controversy surrounding Bill Belichick and 24-year-old Jordan Hudson, analyzing whether their relationship reflects misogyny or a concerning power dynamic between a 73-year-old man and a woman from a vastly different technological era. While joking about Cutie's "Mormon plague" and recounting a chaotic Coachella incident involving James Marco St. Marco, the hosts debate social discomfort regarding age gaps, contrasting it with their own burnout from 12-hour workdays and reflections on free speech after a year-long deplatforming campaign. Ultimately, the episode suggests that navigating modern relationships requires scrutinizing generational divides without dismissing individual agency. [Automatically generated summary]
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Night Shouts and Kink Territory00:04:24
20 69 year old Bill Belichick meets 20 year old.
Don't do math.
Stop doing the math.
Late.
Oh, Jesus.
Wow, what a good start.
He sucks.
Ladies and gentlemen.
No, no, no.
Welcome back to the Fear and podcast.
When we have a wonderful show here today, we got full stack, full cast on deck.
I cursed Austin.
That's the craziest intro.
God, man.
You're out of here.
We're going to swap over for a new guy.
I got a 6'5 Turkish kid been begging to do the intro.
Cutie and I have the Mormon plague and we still have it.
It's just like I mean, we're just still dealing with symptoms.
I think we developed the new coronavirus.
When I wake up every morning, I have like a sore throat if I'm tired.
Yeah, you haven't gotten it in however long.
You wake up, you have a sore throat.
Still, you have acid reflux, cutie.
No, no, no, it's like in your nose.
It's like sinus.
Yeah, we know we know what acid reflux is.
Yeah.
Because, you know.
Yeah, I've had an endoscopy.
Yeah, and so have I. Cutie.
What?
It's like, it's super early today, but you, you.
I was here on time.
What's up with that?
Number one.
Good job.
You're flirting with me, which is inappropriate.
Number two.
You got like a weird, like, you got a weird look to you right now, like, like a sick hot.
Yeah, I'm going for like one night.
You got Britney Murphy.
One night sand hot.
That's what I do.
Yeah, that's my new thing.
I got my cowgirl boots on.
Oh, yeah.
She's showing, she's got a high skirt on, too.
A short skirt.
Like, this is like a Fleetwood Mac shirt.
What happened?
Like, this is like what you wore last night to the bar, had a one-night stand, and now you're doing the podcast.
Yeah.
No, I, uh, I, I, um, actually.
What's your favorite song off rumors?
Oh, um, Silver Springs.
Okay.
Yeah, I like that.
That's a deep cut, Fleetwood Mac.
I have no idea.
Yeah.
You never have run the voice of a woman that loves you.
Yeah.
So you're trying a new look here.
You're little Paris Hilton.
I just, I have, I'm just, this is the thing.
I've learned you do baggy, top, skirt, bottom, or you do baggy on baggy.
Those are your choices.
You can't do, can't do tight on tight.
That's what I've been told.
Yeah.
And honestly.
You arrived at this today.
Like this year, 2025 is when it took.
Yeah, because usually I do leggings and a shirt.
It's funny because like, I mean, that's even worse than Austin's track record for the most part.
It's bad.
But what I like to do is...
My track record is very bad.
Bullying needs, does work.
Yeah.
What I will say is that it's been so out of trend, what you're describing, that it's, I think, almost about to be in trend again.
Like, it's been almost a decade since that was considered.
I used to dress so poorly that you should have killed me.
No, no, no.
No, like, you should have killed me.
You can't.
You can't just die from that.
No, you should have killed me.
You should have not allowed me ever to be seen ever.
I'm letting you.
Even if we just merced him.
Yeah, we beat him with hammers.
You should have put a bag over my head and suffocated me until I changed my mind.
Okay, now it's coming.
Now it's going kink territory, I think.
He's getting too excited about it.
Bro, speaking of, dude, speaking of drib, I got to say, fallen soldiers out there.
Shouts out to the Essence Boys.
Shouts out to the Farfetch boys.
Shouts out to the boys out there throwing fits.
The who boys?
I'm just giving shout outs to podcasts and also applications that I use to purchase clothing because Donald Trump's tariffs regime has come for us.
He doesn't want you to put something nice on.
Donald Trump doesn't want you to throw fits.
Donald Trump doesn't want you to get bitches.
Donald Trump does not want you to have issemiaki.
Donald Trump doesn't want you to have he doesn't.
He wants your clothes to be made in America.
No, he wants your.
Yeah.
Well, the material's not even in fucking America.
Acai Bowls and Tariff Chaos00:05:05
Pause.
That's your guys' coffee.
My coffee.
We will wait.
He didn't get me coffee.
I'm pissed.
I did.
No, you didn't.
All right.
You know me and Austin are latte girls.
Yeah.
Can we talk about this?
He goes, he goes, oh, don't worry, I got you guys coffee.
I got four cold brews and one latte for Austin.
Which was honestly, I feel so good right now.
I know you don't feel good.
I know.
He got you a cold brew, but he did remember my very specific order.
Yeah.
I don't know if he got it iced.
Sometimes I don't even know if he knows my name.
Did you get it iced?
I hope so.
I thought so, but maybe I didn't.
And if you didn't, that's okay because it's a free coffee and I'll take it.
But I do like it iced.
It's good to know.
Cutie, what would be your order in a hypothetical scenario?
Well, I'm off normal milk.
I'm on soy for the hormones.
Oh.
Yeah, because I got hormone problems.
I was told to do soy.
And I have high cholesterol.
You do?
135.
No.
Oh, I have high cholesterol too.
Really?
Yeah, high cholesterol, girlies.
Wait, does your mom or dad?
Is that a genetic thing?
Well, my mom died from like a stroke-ish.
So, okay.
Well, let's get you on some blood thinners.
No, no, no.
I'm just on, I'm taking more fiber, but I do keep shitting myself because of it.
Wait, wait, fiber is supposed to help you like increase the not me.
You just keep shitting yourself.
Dude, I think fiber is so fake.
Yeah.
I actually shit myself after one of our last episodes.
Wait.
Because I couldn't get into my nose.
No, yeah.
I got you ice, by the way.
Because Yingo changed the password and I didn't know it.
Can I say something about fiber?
Fuck fiber.
Fuck fiber.
Well, I love fiber.
I use it all the time, but I think it's such a phony thing.
What are you talking about?
Because if you eat too much fiber, it makes you go diarrhea.
But also, if you eat too much fiber, sometimes it stops your poop from actually coming out.
Yeah, or just being high.
So what is it?
What are the rules?
Yeah, what are the rules?
Who determines, like, is some type of fiber like, I'm the poopy fiber, and the other type of fiber is like, I'm going to stop you from pooping.
I tell you what.
I don't know.
You know what's really good?
That pisses me off.
I got the solution.
All right.
An acai bowl before bed.
Yeah, you're on a big acai bowl.
I am.
You've been talking about that for the last two weeks.
Yes.
Yeah.
Why?
Why?
It's got tons of fiber in the morning.
Everything comes out smooth.
Okay, I don't understand that either.
I don't understand that either because acai bowls, they have fiber, sure, but they also have a lot of sweet stuff in them.
Like, I feel like that's how do you go to bed?
He's fat-shaming you insta.
Yeah.
No, I feel like if I had an acai bowl before bed, I would stay up.
I put your content on my target.
We do ad reads for beam dream powder.
And one day I was like, I want to take this stuff.
Yeah.
Shit knocks you out.
Wait, really?
That's not an ad, by the way.
This is not an ad.
Really?
Fuck, bro.
You just gave it to him for a while.
But you haven't tried it.
Of course I've tried it.
I haven't had the whole bag, right?
Cutie.
It's a good mix.
It's a good mix.
Popping one of those, and I just like when I had my really bad insomnia, that's a, it worked.
And it worked?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Fuck yeah.
I've got some at home.
So maybe I'll try it.
You look great today, Will.
I feel like I look like shit.
I'm in the concussion protocol.
Yeah, what the hell happened?
I slept for three hours.
Oh, what happened?
You watched a debate yesterday.
I'm in the I do like basically over five rounds of live sparring now every time I train with Ali Myth.
And he just put one in my ear hole the other day that I swear I like spun around.
I was like, whoa, I think I farted a little bit.
He hit me so hard.
I felt my neck crunch.
Need more fiber.
And yeah, it's like the first time that I've noticed, I bet I've been like really concussed.
Like it just was like a sweet shot behind the ear and like everything was like not cool.
Like bright colors, all that.
So I mean, it happens when you're getting, shit happens when you're partying naked.
But yeah, this is the first time I was like, yeah, I ate one.
So I don't think that's the only time.
I don't think I could take one hit.
No, I've had a concussion and the whole time I'm just paranoid that I'm dying.
You've been hitting the guts?
I've never been hit, period.
You could do what that on the Patreon.
Yeah.
One straight.
You won't like it.
Maybe it's what I need to just snap.
Yeah.
Just attack me.
Well, no.
When you think like you're going to magically become like a warrior?
Yeah, like a fighter.
Like, I'm just going to see.
I think it works like that.
I mean, I do think I got something in me.
You definitely, like, when you get hit, can like go into a fight or flight.
Rough Periods and Party Nights00:14:26
Yeah.
Sometimes it's flight.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sometimes like he just starts running away, crying.
I mean, that is my default is run.
Yeah.
No, I mean at the sign of danger.
It's the default.
It's the default.
Yeah, bro.
Protect.
It's rough.
Yeah.
Just letting you know if we're out together in danger.
Yeah.
I'm running.
That's true.
You could be like one of those guys that goes up to people and then pisses them off.
And then as soon as these start trying to fight you, you're like, I'm just a little guy.
Yeah.
I'm just a little guy.
I just want a kiss.
Pull your pants down.
Yeah.
You could be that.
By the way, I haven't seen you guys in a while.
Yeah.
You went to New York, New York.
Dude, I went back to my homeland.
Yeah.
I went back to Princeton, New Jersey.
I saw you eating subs, dude.
Oh, dude, I had a lot of people.
Shout out to Princeton.
I also got to rent out part of this pizza place that's like kind of famous in Princeton for my youth.
And I just put a message out to anybody I knew still living in Princeton.
That's sweet.
And I was like, pull up.
We had like 13 people pull through and we were all just eating pizza, talking about the good old times.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah.
And the funniest part was I was with one of my boys who one of our most formative memories was like he and one of our mutual friends when we were 16 years old getting a DUI.
And the guy that they were driving home randomly sat at the table next to us.
What?
When we were like 16 and we were like, what are you doing here, Christian?
This is so crazy.
But it was like such a, it was a very healing moment.
Yeah, that's nice.
That's cool.
Good.
Yeah, but it was nice to go home.
I haven't been back to New York in forever.
I saw Glenn Gary Glenn Ross with Bill Burr.
I saw that.
I saw that.
Was he good?
So good.
God, I love him.
I want him to come on my stream or this podcast so bad.
Yeah, we'll suck.
I feel like we got a connection with his comedy company somewhere.
I did a podcast, which is like, it's like the lost podcast, but I did a podcast with George Lopez.
What?
Do you ever, it's a lost podcast.
Nobody knows about this.
I remember that.
But on a random day in 2021, I pulled up to the George Lopez podcast.
It was me and like Greg Corrilla, which is the guy that busted like a big murder in Los Angeles.
A copy awesome.
That's awesome.
Awesome.
An ex-cop.
And nobody watched it, but it was me and George Lopez.
Bro, you're like for like two hours.
You're like Shaq doing side missions, but you haven't completed the main mission.
Like, it makes no sense.
What?
You just randomly complete the main mission.
You just keep popping up doing side quests.
You're like, oh, I just smoked weed with Wiz Khalifa.
I did do that.
I know.
I have a story.
Oh, they found this.
Oh, my God.
I think they found it.
This is George Lopez.
Oh, my God.
This is George Lopez.
The lighting is horrible.
Oh, my God.
Oh, what is this fucking podcast, bro?
It's, oh, my God, hi with George Lopez.
Dog, this literally looks like this looks like a snippet from.
But look at me.
I was fitting right in.
God, I look like shit.
No, okay.
It's just the lighting makes you a vampire.
Yeah, no, but I just look like the filter.
The filter feels like it's a snippet from Sicario of a fake podcast, like not a real one.
And then, you know, the fucking narcos are going to come in any moment now.
But my, look at my nail.
God, I was going through a rough period.
Yeah.
I was going, you hadn't seen that.
And you're going to watch yourself eat.
This is going to be.
Oh, God.
I was fat.
Look at me.
Oh, look at you, Go.
Oh, God.
Look at my hair.
How many music does I have?
It was.
Will.
Will.
That's awesome.
Things have changed.
Things have changed.
You look so much better.
Last call.
Does anyone want food?
No.
Why did George Lopez and the cop look so intense?
Because George Lopez and the cop.
Like, the cop was angry at you, I think.
I don't think I ever told him I was gay.
Do you think they knew?
Bro, come on.
Bro, that's when I showed up with my tight, skin-tight, painted nails, skin-tight pants with black painted nails.
And they thought you were the basis in Green Day.
By the way.
And fucking Chelsea boots.
Okay, I'm going to say something right now.
I'm not on any mean girl shit.
Oh.
Uh-oh.
The way you looked at your hair right now on that show and said, ooh, ooh, one day when you finally listen to me and buzz your fucking hair and go blonde, you are going to look back at your hair right now and go, what was this man doing?
No, this guy wants me to look like George Michaels.
I want you to look like Zayn Malik.
I want you to be my father.
Also, George Michael is still icon.
Give me a second.
Let me get to 35 and then I'll do it.
Just do it now.
I need to get him a hair trend.
You have beautiful hair.
Don't shoot that dude.
You have beautiful hair.
Wait, hold on.
Just a second.
Your hair, his hair is like mine.
It's frizzy.
It's like, it's, we have you don't like my we have levant hair.
I walked to the hair doctor and they said I had gorgeous hair.
No, we have their hands through it.
You have the hair of a you have the hair of a Levantine.
Okay, I'm sorry.
It's not, it's not Irish hair.
What do you mean?
You have Lebanese hair.
Yes, thank you.
That's the nice.
Honestly, that's the nice thing.
You have Lebanese hair and you have Lebanese beard.
Fuck any growth.
I do it.
Beautiful hair.
Everybody talks about my hair and how beautiful it is.
I don't think they do.
Okay.
No, it's like either either.
Okay, chat.
I need to hear a lot of people disagree with your take here, Hassan.
A lot of people disagree with it.
I just know the vision.
I have it in my head.
I know you're beautiful.
I've been cooking a story for you guys that I think is going to change you forever.
Oh, God.
So I also went to Coachella.
Uh-huh.
And I went to see my favorite band in history, The Prodigy.
Oh, it was so cool.
And let's just say I got out of my right mind, right?
I went places.
I went on a spiritual voyage.
Then after that voyage, I ended up at our Airbnb in a hot tub with some friends that I was meeting for the first time.
Wow.
One of those friends was a very German swinger.
Oh, Isaiah.
Wait, was this after?
This is after.
No, no, this is after I left the hot tub.
You were there?
Yes.
This was a separate day.
Oh, this is a second.
Okay, because this is a separate day.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is after I left Coachella.
No, we weren't invited.
So we've gone.
Will get so mad if you say that.
Sorry, we're cutting off a little story, but I do want to interject and say, Will and I hot tubbed after Coachella and we had gay sex and we slept in the same bed.
Yes, we were going.
We actually did sleep in the same bed, but no gay sex.
This is a different day.
Don't be jealous.
It's a different day.
I'm in the hot tub with my new German friend, and I've heard legends that he's a swinger.
Okay.
We're all sitting.
These are all German.
It's our group.
It's day three of the festival.
Marsha's right.
I misplaced it.
We're all cooked, cooked, mentally, physically.
All of a sudden, I kid you not, a trail of 10 people just walk into our backyard.
10 people I've never seen before in my life.
And I'm like, what is happening?
And one of them looks like if I was 6'5 and pumped full of steroids, mustache, white guy, chisel jaw, and he walks over to our friend and is like, I'm going to use the name James Marco St. Marco to protect his animal.
God, his name is so good.
I can't say that.
I know, but his name is so good.
Because it would instantly identify him.
He comes over and he goes, James, we need you.
And I'm like, what is happening?
What does he need him for?
And one of the girls that's with them goes, Do you mind if I swim in your pool naked?
I don't want to get my clothes wet.
And the 10 people in the hot tub are like, what is huh?
Like, yeah, sure.
What the fuck?
Like, what is happening?
And dude, this guy with the mustache looks at one of the girls in the hot tub and goes, Do you want to come with us?
You, you can come with us.
And she's like, Where are we going?
And she's like, Ask your friend, Do you want to come with us?
Come with us.
And they go in the house and they immediately start fucking.
And we're like, What is happening?
And we ask our German friend, James.
We're like, What is happening?
He's like, Oh, shit.
I didn't even tell them where I was.
They just showed up.
And I'm like, What do you mean you didn't tell them where you were?
So this guy's just like a fuck machine.
He just walks around and just says, Yes, yes, yes.
So they're asked to leave the house.
They all leave the house.
And I asked James, I'm like, James, how could you even fuck right now?
You're Friday.
He's like, Oh, you've never heard of the Trimix.
And Marsha's Trimix.
There is an injectable Viagra that they take in a syringe and shoot directly in the penis.
Oh my God.
Directly!
Dude, Germans are so advanced at being gross, dude.
They're so advanced at weird sex shit.
I don't think a German is ever fuck normal.
My mind, dude, here's the diagram: my mind was absolutely fragile rock.
Oh, oh, there's a very specific place where you have to inject a serum.
Oh, kitty, is Ludwig shooting Trimix into his dick?
Are you guys having sex for real?
Crazy.
So, what does Trimex do exactly?
He's doing mental math.
No way.
He's doing mental math.
How many, how many tweaks he can go through with a Trimax?
I am.
That is awesome.
That is when your one friend in your group is like, that's crazy.
Where does he get it?
No, I mean, what is about?
Does it hurt when you're doing it?
I mean, I can get a natural erection, but I'm just curious what the medication does.
What's the point of that over?
James Direct quote was, because I asked him the same question, and James was like, well, dude, you do the Trimix.
We can be wrestling, fighting, and I still have rock hard erection for hours.
And I went, James, you promise?
And he went, oh, yeah.
So how did you stop that?
What'd you go on with a spray bottle and just like tell him, get out?
Yeah, get out of their living.
Like, because they're just in your house.
James, to his credit, was like a really cool human.
And he knew what they were doing was inappropriate.
So he asked them to leave.
And he was like, no, my weekend has been full and fun.
I'm not looking for Devonda Sex, right?
Yeah.
And just sent them away.
So you sent him in because he knew how to handle it.
This penis game is so crazy that this group of people, men and women, came and they were like, we need you.
We need that date.
God damn, this man was gorgeous.
Like Grecian God.
Did you see his penis?
No, how did I see his penis?
Come on, you gotta know.
I feel like in that environment, you could have been like, come on.
Show me how to do it.
Let me see.
He's a Trimix.
Yeah.
James Marco, show me what to hear from you.
Let me see your penis.
I want to see the marvels of medicine.
If there was ever a moment.
Can I tell you on a full head of drugs, me trying to understand what was happening?
I was shocked.
I'll be honest.
I just don't think I could do drugs like that.
I think I. Are you talking about Trimix?
I wasn't on Trimix.
Oh, you weren't on Trimex?
Okay.
No.
I'm getting all confused.
He was on different drugs.
Yeah.
Well, I just couldn't do those either.
Cutie and I couldn't do those.
Cutie, you have similar stories.
Yeah.
Let's hear from you.
I've never once been like...
I want to listen to women.
You've never been pulled into an orgy?
No.
I don't know what I would do in an orgy.
I've been to an orgy.
I've talked about it before.
I feel like you could grab a plate of food and watch.
I would.
I would.
In the beginning.
That's what you did.
The food.
No, no.
I didn't.
I didn't like.
I didn't like dine on the I didn't feast on the food.
There was like, that was my first time being in like a super wealthy person's house, which is kind of funny because like my house somewhat resembles that now in terms of what I'm about to talk about.
That's where I got the idea of like stocking everything all the time.
Yeah.
Because there was a crazy thing.
There was a beverage.
There was a beverage refrigerator.
Right.
And it was freshly stocked and I couldn't comprehend it.
There were so many different types of, there was just so many different types of beverages.
So you're on that being in the middle of the orgy, this is your special hyper focus.
And also cans on top of each other.
It was so accommodating.
Like, it's not their first orgy.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, there was fucking, there were hampers with bathing suits in them.
Oh, interesting.
So that people have to go into the people into the pool.
This is what I would do at an orgy.
I wouldn't like get into the mosh pit.
I'd probably start on the outskirts and then I'd make my way to the, I'd probably find a little side thing.
So what, like, so you're just going to go and then walk away?
No, no, no, no, boom.
No, no, no.
No, not like, no.
Nothing else touches just my penis.
No, no, no.
I imagine, I imagine, I imagine in an orgy, there's like a mosh pit.
And then there's like, there's like a mosh pit.
I imagine there's just like sucking and fucking open up the penis.
I just feel that's what I feel.
Suffocating underneath.
Like there's someone dying.
I feel like the human pile of humans tend to, when they get close together like that, I feel like everybody creates like a little just like a just compact area.
And then everything around it, there's just like probably little side quests happening.
I went to the Patreon.
I brought some Trimix.
Oh, yeah.
We can try it.
Perfect.
Yeah, we'll do it.
I'm ready for it.
Imagine being the person that has to kick off the orgy.
Everybody's standing in the group, and they're like, okay.
Well, I had a there we go.
That is my social anxiety nightmare on me.
Mosh Pits and Suffocating Feelings00:15:43
I asked about this.
I asked a friend about this because he's like, Well, I got invited to a jockstrap party, orgy.
And I was like, How do you know it's an orgy?
And he's like, Well, we're all wearing jockstraps, and that's usually what happens.
And I said, Well, how does it start?
And he's like, Well, so it's actually a ceremony.
Yeah, it's just like, well, because I'm exactly like eyes wide shut.
Yeah, you all play with it.
And he said you just start drinking, and then eventually everybody takes their pants off, and then somebody starts kissing, and then it's and then it's the mosh.
Yeah, then it's okay.
What's happening?
Yeah, sorry.
So sorry.
Your Oklahoma congressperson's there, also in a jockstrap.
He's getting real freaky with it.
Yeah, no, that's this is what I expected on a Saturday morning.
I have lots of orgy experience.
I'm so sorry, I don't.
I know.
I just had people show up.
Crazy.
I don't either.
Obviously, you know, when you're in one of those places where you can't really articulate yourself well either, so I was just sitting there and I was like, what the fuck am I happening right now?
That's crazy.
That's insane.
What's happening in Girly Poppy?
We've got, you'll like this one.
We've got Bill Belichick.
Oh, we're not talking about that.
Wait, wait, we're not?
No, that was her lineup.
I've sent this to like three of my friends and they don't pick it up.
We're not talking about that.
Okay, I've got it.
Let me, because there's a lot of different answers.
This is a good interview.
This is a good interview.
There's so much in that interview is slammed.
It's jam-packed.
I knew you'd like it.
Oh, I love it.
Yeah.
Okay, one second.
Stall for me.
You know what, Will and Cutie?
What's that?
I used to have a wallet that was falling apart.
Really?
Yeah.
So what do you have now?
Oh, my God.
Kitty, I thought you'd never ask.
I've got a Ridge wallet.
All right.
Because I noticed how slim and unique and modern the design is that could hold up to 20.
And the crust wipes on off.
That's right.
Right on.
Also, they're indestructible.
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Okay, so let me give some context.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you don't immediately know the name Bill Belichick, he's one of the greatest football coaches, if not the greatest, of all time, of all time.
Yeah.
And now he has moved on from coaching professional football to coaching college football and to doing commentary.
And in that transition, he left his wife and he got a very young girlfriend.
I believe she's 24 years old.
Yeah.
And let's just say people have mixed opinions on this pairing.
And he recently was on a Sunday morning interview where they decided to ask him about the nature of his relationship.
And I have him fucking load.
I'm stalling.
I'm going to stay.
Okay.
Okay.
Listen, listen.
There's a lot.
There's a lot that was not mentioned and also is truly interesting about this interview in general because there's some drama that we can talk about while she pulls up the girly pop side of the story in terms of like not mentioning Robert Kraft at all, right?
Like there was some there was some back and forth there.
Well, the back and forth there was Sunday morning asked him, Bill, how was it being fired?
And Bill Belichick was like, it was mutual, Bob Kraft and I had a conversation.
He's like, well, you know, they say that they fired you.
And he's like, also, why?
Let's see if that link works, Marsh.
Can you explain to me why he was wearing that navy shirt that was like distressed?
So this is Bill Belichick's.
It's really interesting for a man of his age, he definitely has an aesthetic.
And that aesthetic is he wears distressed old sweatshirts with holes in them.
Yeah.
He kind of carved that niche out for himself, you know?
Okay, this is fun crossover because we are doing sports this week as the girls.
Yeah, not a bit, not a.
I'm so curious at the end of this who, like, what side Girly Pop Nation is on.
I can't wait.
That's the fun thing about girls is we are lovers, but we're also haters.
Yeah.
So sometimes we're like sleigh bitch, 24-year-olds go after that 73-year-old slay, slay slay.
And then other times we're like, what a, what a gold-digging bitch.
We have two sides to it.
Marge is shocked at how young Bill Belichick looks at the age of 73.
Right, March?
I bet he's using that tribe.
You mean to jump the shark?
Tell me you have their tandem Yoda, a yoga photo in here.
I believe I do.
Yeah.
All right.
Because that's what kind of kicked this off.
All right.
You can push next.
Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson.
Okay.
So that is left in on accident.
You can skip that.
Our team.
Is that from another?
Editor cut that out.
Canva.
What the fuck?
Canva gives us.
Was that from another?
No, no, no.
Canva gives you temp slides, and then usually you switch about.
I think we should leave that.
That was left in.
So that's our team.
They worked hard on this.
That's so funny.
Oh, did it crash?
Fudge cakes.
There you go.
Bill Belichick's got shooters.
He doesn't want you seeing this.
Our team.
Okay.
That's them.
So she's Gorgina.
I mean, yeah, she's 24.
He's 73.
Okay.
Can I add a little context to this phone?
Yeah.
This photo initially sparked outrage, and Marsh correctly pointed to something.
You notice that they are both wearing rings.
No, she's wearing one of the rings.
Now, one thing you should know about one of those Super Bowl rings was that it was one the year before she was born.
Yeah.
So she is wearing a Super Bowl ring that he won within 365 days of when she was born.
It's her birth year.
Super Bowl.
What's he saying?
Like, you think he's saying, like, I want this for you, honey?
So they basically were saying he just didn't have room on his hand for all of his, which is dope.
But then she went on Instagram and she was like, it's actually my national cheerleading championship ring.
Oh, but no one.
Wait, why does she lie about that?
Can't we just see what the ring is?
I mean, it might be, but that looks like a crazy ring for his cheerleading championship.
They're not his.
They look like his.
Like, they look like crazy ass rings.
But anyway, one of those rings, I don't know which one is the year she was born, which is that is that is like a crazy idea.
Oh, click on the link.
This is just a fun Snoop Dogg made fun of them, and I like that.
Oh, yeah.
Because I've been a football fan for a long, long time.
I mean, I remember back when the Cowboys was good.
I remember back when the Chiefs was bad.
And I remember, what was it?
Bill Belichick's girlfriend wasn't even born yet.
Oh!
Oh, she likes it.
They like it.
Oh, everybody.
Wait, so he likes it.
So it's not even like, he's not like ashamed of it.
Like, he's just like, yeah, yeah, she's a hot young sexy thing I got on my side.
I'm going to be honest.
I don't think they initially knew how many people would receive the ick from their situation because Bill is not really known for his social acumen.
No, this is his famous quote.
If you know anybody who knows football is on to the next week.
In any presser, like where he was asked a difficult question, he would go, on to the next week.
Yeah, we don't really care about Will's social personal life usually.
The only thing we know about it is that he also is a daughter kisser, right?
He's a mouth kisser.
I don't know.
I don't know about that.
No, no, Bill definitely look up Bill Belichick.
Let's down.
Let's download that.
That's a white people thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Him and Tom Brady both kissed their children in your soul.
Directly on the list.
It's a white person thing, okay?
Marsh, why don't you Google that real quick?
I've kissed my dad before.
It's funny.
No, that's what I'm saying.
That's where white people draw their power from.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's why they were so good.
So, Bill, you can go next slide.
Bill Belichick has a new book.
That's where we learn to cheat taxes.
That's coming out.
And allegedly, he stormed offset.
Yeah, I mean, the other change for Belichick is 24-year-old Jordan Hudson, his creative muse, as he writes in his book.
Okay, pause.
Pause.
I didn't mean to ruin anything.
That quote in particular stuck in a lot of people's craw because he's not a musician.
He's not painting.
How the fuck is a 24-year-old who weighs 110 pounds the muse for him to create an I write 22 wiggle?
You know what I mean?
Like, what about that is helping him create defensive stunts?
It's just such a strange thing to say.
Continue.
Jordan was a constant presence during our interview.
You have Jordan right over there.
Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship.
It's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it.
How do you deal with that?
Never been too worried about what everybody else thinks.
True.
Just try to do what I feel like.
Look what I'm wearing.
On to the next week.
Not talking about this.
No.
No.
It's a topic neither one of them is comfortable commenting on.
Though Hudson has recently posted about it on Instagram.
You join InstaFace, as you put it.
I love that.
There's some great pictures of you and Jordan where you're a fisherman and she's a mermaid.
Charming.
It's a different side of you.
What's the reaction been like?
What's it been like?
To have these different sort of photos.
There's another one where you're doing, I know you're not into meditation or yoga or Pilates, but you're balancing more comfortable on your feet.
And she's doing kind of the Titanic pose.
Yeah, so I'm on some of those social media platforms, but I honestly don't follow them.
What he does follow isn't clicks or views, but touchdowns and above all, good statements.
Yeah, so can I say the funny thing about this, and I like as the resident sports guy, I want to give you guys a little context.
Bill Belichick now has stepped out from being a coach and is now a public figure, right?
He's doing like NFL broadcast stuff.
He's in the booth and he's trying to build himself out as that person as he returns to coaching.
But he wants to do more hosting, right?
So the funny thing is, he's been famous for giving no information during his NFL pressers.
And he's handling this interview with Sunday morning like it's an interview press, like it's a presser where he's giving no information.
And the interviewer is like, yeah, you can't just, there's no one else here.
You can't just move on.
He's going to pull the clipboard in front of his mouth.
Do you think to some degree?
I mean, he has no idea.
He's 73 years old.
He's known to not really give any answers.
He's probably not on social media.
I think he's also kind of autistic.
Like, I don't think he knows.
Like, I bet she's just like, let's take these photos together.
And they're cringe, but he's also 73.
I think that gets into the next part.
Yeah.
So, I mean, that was the other thing is apparently they like met on an airplane ride.
Oh, yeah.
So they like, yeah, they don't want to talk.
I don't know why she doesn't want to talk about it.
Okay, next.
So she posted up, she posted on her Instagram a response to this because TMZ was like, oh, yeah, she delayed the interview for 30 minutes.
She was the only person with him.
There was no one from his team.
Like, everyone is kind of saying it was like pretty like unprofessional.
Kind of like unprofessional, but also like, you know, the typical controlling, like predatory, like no agents there, like just this girl, this 24-year-old.
So people are like getting mad or whatever.
But essentially, Jordan posted a screenshot to her Instagram of the email from Bill dated April 10th, which was two and a half weeks before the interview.
The post included a screenshot of a video on her camera roll with the time stamp showing.
The video is 35 minutes and 59 seconds long.
She tagged CBS Sunday morning and Tony and captioned the full statement to release later today, but no statements have come out.
She attached, look what you made me do to the post, implying that these screenshots should vindicate her from people spreading false rumors.
We don't really understand what she's doing.
She's like, she's like, she's saying that she didn't delay the interview because it's only 30, like she posted the time and whatever.
She's just trying to like, she's trying to pretend that like she has nothing to do with anything, but also hasn't like actually posted any proof or anything.
It's just bizarro.
But then she went on a crazy rete tweet spree.
So she was just having a moment.
So she was like, yeah, I see a woman who cares about her man, doesn't want him to be screwed around by the media.
Nothing awkward about it.
Imagine a private person wanting to keep their private life shocking.
Like, so like she's retweeting pretty much anyone defending her.
I know, but all of these tweets are getting horribly ratioed in every single one of them.
Yeah, that's not looking too good.
16 likes.
She retweeted one that said that Bill should have strangled Tony, the guy asking questions, which is kind of cool.
Yeah, Bill wants to reach across and strange the life out of the interviewer.
I kind of wish he did.
She retweeted that, which that's kind of cool.
Okay, next.
Then she went out and got a picture wearing what everyone thinks is an engagement ring on Monday and Tuesday.
So now everyone thinks they're engaged.
So essentially, she's kind of just like, okay, let's talk about something else.
Next.
Can I say something?
Uh-huh.
And I want this to be a reasonable discussion.
Okay.
Okay.
Inappropriate age gap relationships.
Age Gaps and Misogyny Concerns00:10:38
I have one rule on it where I think like the moment that the other party also has like some semblance of autonomy, I think is like, especially the woman in these scenarios, because like that's the most common meta is like you have a younger lady with a much older man.
I say 25.
Like once a woman is 25 years old, like frontal, prefrontal lobe or whatever it's called is like developed.
Like she's an adult making decisions on her own.
And it's still weird, but it's not barring other circumstances is not, I don't think is as problematic.
And in this situation, I feel like she's not, she's 24 years old.
But from what she has done so far, it kind of feels like she's the one who is in control of the relationship.
Yeah, she wears pants, it seems Bill Belichick.
So initially, my initial response was like, this guy is like, what's he doing?
This is like a young 24-year-old girl that he's hanging out with.
But it kind of feels like she's living Levita Loca.
Do the girly pops agree with me on this?
Like, is this like a get your money up queen situation?
She's identified herself as the chief operating officer of Belichick Productions, which is interesting.
I didn't know he had a production company.
Yeah.
So I think this is like a like a Jeff Bezos' new girlfriend/slash fiance situation.
So Hard Knox, which is a show on HBO, was going to do a show featuring like the team that Belichick coaches right now.
Yeah, they were going to do a college version of Hard Knox.
In case you don't know what Hard Knox is, Hard Knox is a show that works in correlation with the NFL, where they're actually required as NFL teams, part of the collective bargaining agreement, to embed hard knocks with your preseason preparation once every eight years.
If the NFL team or if the NFL deems your team is the most interesting team.
So once every eight years, if the NFL is like, you're the most interesting team, you have to take HBO's crew in.
And it's led to some of the most amazing football moments ever.
Hard Knox wanted to do a college version.
And because Bill Belichick has now gone back to coaching college football, they wanted to do it UNC and they shut that process.
Yeah, essentially, essentially, Jordan, she wanted to be really heavily involved in the production and it just led to them shutting it down because she was just so controlling.
So controlling after it was like just about to go.
So there's like more than 200 emails of them working on it that Jordan's not in any of them.
But then all of a sudden, all of a sudden, she's like, so all of a sudden, she is the operating officer, the chief operating officer.
And it's like, what is going on?
So, so people are really confused.
Hudson has had an unofficial role at UNC since Belichick's hiring in December, including being copied on some of the emails.
And she's constantly requesting communications with UNC's media staff.
It's just, it's getting messy and it's giving messy.
I think she is rocking Bill Belichick's world.
I just, is that fucked up for me to say?
Let's scroll through some more information.
Okay.
Am I messed up?
I think everybody's thinking it.
Is that like, am I pulling awesome right now?
Am I?
No.
Listen, listen.
No, you're not.
No, no, you're agreeing.
You're there with me.
Uh-oh.
Of course she's fucking rocking his world.
I think he's 73.
It doesn't take much.
He may need some try max.
That trimax.
No, we've come full circle.
I think the problem, and I think the issue is this, everybody is kind of of two minds about this, where everybody's like, hey, they're two consenting adults, do what you want to do.
But it is hard to get past the coloring of it that this is a lecherous old man and a woman who is a tenacious gold digger.
And it kind of like colors it where you're like, that's why it's like, no, that's why I'm saying it's best of both worlds.
Like, because usually, so usually in these situations, like, there is a wronged party, right?
There's a party saying that because they're both collectively kind of scummy, we're okay.
No, that's why it's a perfect story to watch on the outside.
Because, like, normally when you look at this, it's like a 60-40 situation, right?
Like, where there is a party that is definitely being wronged, like, overwhelmingly being wrong, which is why my initial reaction was, uh, gross.
Did he like this is a symbiotic relationship?
Yes.
I was like, I was like, ew, Bill Bilichek, like, did he go on a private ship?
Exactly.
Yes, okay.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Where that's the reason why I was like, like I said, at first, it looks like any other story: scummy, lecherous, old, pervert guy on a private jet meets someone.
It's like, very young.
And then all of a sudden, they're, you know, she's in the background.
She's in the sidelines, but like, not really a prominent fixture in the relationship, right?
Yeah.
And you're like, are you okay?
Like, can you blink twice if you're okay?
I hope you got a prenup.
Like that type of situation, right?
Well, in this circumstance, it feels like she is a fucking go-getter.
Like, she didn't just, she's just like, yeah, no, I'm, I am the person that's wearing the pants of the relationship.
So, so he, so, Bill Belichick released this statement.
Yeah, I see this.
Where essentially he's saying, like, I was doing this interview to talk about my book, and Tony was being cringe and was asking about, yeah, he was like, Tony was being cringe and asking about my relationship.
And she's not being a bad person by shutting that down because it's supposed to be about my book.
And she's just looking out for me.
And we had a 35-minute convo, but they only posted eight minutes of it.
And like, they included the relationship part.
And, like, why is it even part of it when we're talking about my book?
Wait, wait, hold on.
But, but then he admits that they met on a flight to Palm Beach in 2021.
She's 24 now.
So she was even younger then.
Wait, hold on.
So she's 20.
He met her when she was 20.
I spoke too soon.
I spoke too soon.
69-year-old Bill Belichick meets 20-year-old.
Don't do math.
Stop doing the math.
Stop doing the math.
What are you doing?
Maybe she was 21.
We don't know what month of she had a nice apple juice.
Oh my God.
She couldn't even order a drink.
And also, a flight to Palm Beach.
What were they flying?
Delta?
Was this like a, was this a private jet?
Why was she on the plane?
What's going on?
Okay.
A comedian friend of mine, when referring to the Shannon Sharp situation, said, Because the girl was 19 and Shannon's like, Unc is like 50, outside of all of the other details, was like, even if everything was good, all things considered, you're like 50, she's 19.
That's like blowing a 0.7 on a breathalyzer for pedophilia.
You're like, what are you doing?
Okay, you cleared, but like, that's crazy.
Way too close.
Is that savvy?
What?
Is that stabbing?
No.
So that's pretty much, that's where we're at.
So we're deciding, we're confused because at first it was, go girly pop, get your bag.
But now we're kind of like, oh, yeah.
The moment that you brought the math in, I feel gross.
I feel gross about it.
I feel close to the sun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Misogy or warranted concern.
Wow.
Yeah.
So we have to be a deep question.
Oh my God.
Misogyny or warranted concern.
I do think, as girly pops, I think we're leaning towards warranted.
A little strange.
Well, for, yeah, I was, I definitely was like, get your, get your money up, queen.
But then I'm like, ooh, she's like 20.
I mean, look, I think that just being around them, if I don't know, if they were to be over for dinner, for example, I would just be uncomfortable.
Can I because, like, you know, if they did anything coupley, like held hands or said honey, or it just makes it would just make me feel uncomfortable.
Can I tell you what's going to decide?
Huh?
If he wins at UNC.
That's funny.
If Bill Belichick goes and gets a natty, everyone will be like, get it, Bill.
Yeah, they'll be celebrating her.
North Carolina will make her the queen.
Yeah, that's true.
She will be an honorary Tar Heel to the end of the universe.
Yeah, that's true.
You know what I find strange?
The dinner party example is perfect.
What I find strange about stuff like that is that it's so obviously a thing that's weird, but your social expectation to be polite is to not look at it and not say something about it.
So you just have to fucking sit there and be like, yeah, no, it's Bill, known you for 50 years, love that your new wife is younger than your daughter.
That's normal, I think.
Nothing wrong with that.
That's pretty, you guys probably get to a lot of stuff.
You guys have a lot of fun together, right?
Like, what are you supposed to do in that situation?
I think, no disrespect, maybe I'll be a lecherous old pervert one day as well.
Okay, so who knows?
We will make fun of you.
Yeah, but like, but that's the thing.
Like, what are you guys talking about?
What are you guys talking about?
I can't even talk to a fucking 20-year-old right now.
I'm 33.
I don't know what the hell's going on in a 20-year-old's mind.
Yeah.
For me, it's very interesting because my parents have an age gap.
They're 22 years apart.
And even that, like, my dad feels so old compared to my mom now.
Yeah, but they're both old.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But I'm just saying, like, if they do start a family, that gap is so crazy.
Well, yeah, he'll be dead before the child even has a memory.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I mean, that's crazy.
Like, the technological differences in the childhood development of Bill Belichick and this woman is so severe.
He was born in 1951.
Like, bro, black people were not going to school with white people when you were alive.
We were like, we were 12 years from the Civil Rights Act.
Generational Gaps and Old Families00:05:56
She watched Yo Gabba Gabba.
He watched Groucho Mars.
Yeah.
His TV wasn't even in color.
They only had three stations.
Wait, he like avoided the Vietnam War.
You know what I mean?
Like, what the fuck?
Oh, yeah.
So it's a little crazy.
It's a little crazy.
That was a good one.
That was a really good one.
Girly pop nation.
What did I bring?
I didn't bring shit.
Okay.
He brought his fine ass.
I brought my fine ass.
Thank you very much, Kitty.
I had a long work at week.
Long work at week.
Yeah, long week at work.
Do we talk about my work week?
Yeah.
Yes.
I have an all-new appreciation for those that get up early and go to work for 10 hours a day because that's what I did this week.
From Sunday, Monday, well, Saturday, I got here.
Monday, Monday, Monday.
Saturday, I got here filmed the podcast.
Sunday, I had a day off.
Monday, 12 hours.
Tuesday, 12 hours.
Wednesday, 12 hours.
Damn.
Thursday, six to eight hours on set.
I saw you hosting that Annihilator Cup.
I was hosting the Annihilator Cup.
Yeah, I was.
You're working.
I was working.
I've been a working.
I've been a working man, which a lot of people have said is a recession indicator.
Yeah.
Austin's bad.
You're like the groundhog of the recession.
If Austin show works a real job, things are bad.
Yeah.
But yeah, you know what?
W's of the week, L's of the week, W of the week.
I'm very proud of myself.
I'm giving myself flowers.
I worked a lot and I also stayed on my meal plan.
And I went to the gym every day and did cardio every single day.
And that's all I did.
I went to the gym and worked the entire week.
And I feel good.
L of the week is I still have there's fruit.
Will you just give me a shot?
I still have the plague that cutie gave me the Mormon plague.
And it's still causing me trauma every day.
So W's and L's of the week.
What do you think?
My W. Deco Deco, we booked our first birthday party.
Yeah.
So first birthday party, it's coming up.
But it's Bill Belichick.
Thank you.
And so that's exciting.
We're excited about that.
My L of the week is that I worked too much.
Oh, it was pretty, it was bad.
It's to the point that I was like, uh-oh, I just got back from Utah and now I'm burnt out again.
So, but I'm learning balance.
And so I'm not working this weekend.
I'm sitting and I've been asked to collab and I said, no.
Hey, QD, is the week that I just described your every week?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I mean, I was on set.
Right?
Anyway, you work harder than me.
Yeah, I do.
But it's okay.
It's okay.
Some people were born to just, I'm just a girl.
But I be, yeah, yeah.
I built a beautiful set by hands.
Me.
I painted and I hammered.
Oh my God.
Oh, God.
I can't do it.
I did all that.
It took me three days, unfortunately.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
And then we bulk recorded from like 10 a.m. to midnight on Sunday.
That was Sunday.
Yeah.
And then it was just, it's been a lot.
And then, but I've started a new YouTube series and I filmed that with Valkyrie on Thursday.
So I'm excited.
Whoa.
Yeah.
I'm going to do a new, I know, I'm tired.
I'm really tired.
I'm starting a new thing too.
What?
Oh, no, let's talk about our new things.
Every weekend, I'm going to do a random workout challenge with John Choi.
Oh, fun.
And this week we're doing the Rich Pina eight-hour bicep.
No.
What is that?
Dude, you're going to die.
Or it's an eight-hour long bicep workout.
What the fuck?
Just biceps?
No triceps.
Yeah, Rich Piana.
That's his name.
Classic.
Like an insane bodybuilder.
Oh.
Any triceps?
Rest in power to my go.
He's dead?
Oh, I mean, pull up a photo.
Pull up a photo of him.
I know, but you're doing his eight-hour workout.
He's dead.
Well, that workout didn't kill him.
Pull up a photo.
There it is.
It shows it right there.
Eight-hour arm workout.
Wow, he's good.
I mean, look at those.
That's what I'm saying.
He has the drugs in his system to be able to repair his muscles quicker and more efficiently.
Oh, wow.
Maybe the drugs in his system weren't too helpful.
Damn, that's crazy.
So he was doing steroids and filler and Botox.
Look at his face.
He was the man.
Oh, he was doing everything.
God.
Oh, God.
Look at those arms.
What'd he die of?
Does his heart stop?
Yeah, it just quit.
I think it's one of those situations where there's too many to tell.
Did he drop it?
The forensics, the autopsy team is like, I don't know.
Yeah.
Everything.
I check all the boxes.
I'm doing, I'm recording it for YouTube only, but it's like a lot of filming, but it's okay.
But I'm doing Day in the Life's where it's like I spent a day with Valkyrie and I spend the whole day with her.
What?
You need to do a Day in the Life with me.
We'll just go to the coffee store.
Yes, no, I think, I think it would actually be a banger because nobody knows what I do.
Yeah, no one does.
So I think it would be so.
He's going to try to load his calendar up.
No, I think it'd be funny.
You'll come to Oregon and we'll do a day in the life.
I mean, I'll be here probably by then, but yeah.
He just, he just, Elton John, what are you doing here?
My normal stuff.
I'm inspired by like Vogue's 73 questions or whatever, and then Paulo's like day in life in Tokyo.
And so I'm making a baby of those two.
And then I'll do it with YouTubers.
And then someday I'll do it with Benny Blanco.
Wow.
I love that.
I love Benny Blanco.
Yeah, so we'll see.
So Benny Blanco is the dream guest on my podcast, which I do have if we want.
I don't know how crazy you want to be today.
I do have JoJo Seewa drama.
But like, oh, dude, the Jojo Siwa stuff is kind of crazy.
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And I kind of got into it.
Wait, I was at it.
I was at a.
I'm not for the record.
Like, fear and listeners, I'm not trying to make this a pop culture podcast.
But you're succeeding.
But I am succeeding.
I'm not trying to.
Like, you know, when we have it, unfortunately, we just had a very long week, all of us.
We're almost at an hour, though.
Oh, we are.
And I think I had too much fiber.
So we also have another thing that we're going to do behind the paywall, and that is review the Kanye West album.
Oh, we obviously could not do it in front of the paywall because we would get copy struck.
Yeah.
No, just kidding.
We would not get copyright strike, but I think we would get banned off the platform if we showed you anything from that.
I do not agree with Kanye West.
Yeah, but the reason why we're going to do that is because he is falling apart.
Yeah.
And it's been spectacular.
W and L of the week for me.
Dude, have you guys played Ark Raiders?
Dude, I keep seeing TikTok clips of it.
It looks so good.
Dude, I am literally in my mind thinking about how excited I am that I woke up early so I can go home and play Ark Raiders because it's only available for another 48 hours before it's removed for like a year or whatever.
Oh my God.
That's a beta test.
It's the best game of the year.
Really?
Dude, wait, what are you doing it?
It's an extraction shooter.
Do you know what that is?
Like you go in and collect.
But bro, every round is like a.
I thought one of you just grabbed my dick.
Oh my God.
That was Kaya's paw slapped my inner thigh and slid down.
And I literally thought one of you just like hogged me.
And I like, look at what she's doing.
Why was your first instinct one of us?
Because I didn't even know she was.
She's crazy.
I started petting her belly with my foot.
Come on, Will.
Don't react.
Don't react.
That's my W, my L. What's my L?
No, no L's.
Well, you got punched in the head.
I got punched in the head.
Go ahead.
W and L of the week, I would say, is both one and the same.
W and L is after a year-long culmination of a deplatforming attempt and harassment campaign, I finally had a five-hour long conversation with my former podcast co-host in which it's a W because like pretty brief.
There was a lot.
Yeah, there was a lot of catharsis, I would say.
And it's both a W and L in that regard because I also feel like the entire experience, I wanted to draw back to serious issues, but it kept devolving into petty disagreements and Mostly one-sided petty disagreements, I think, as opposed to like differences in opinion on issues that matter.
So that was a bit of an L at the end.
It left a bad taste in my mouth because I, you know, I definitely was able to slam a lot of information in front of a lot of eyeballs and get a lot of attention to things that I wanted to get attention to on the serious matters.
But also simultaneously, it's still like most of the impact of that, most of the things that people will remember from that will be the silly moments.
And I feel like that is, you know, that in that regard, I guess I was unproductive.
So this is both a W and an L. There you go.
There you go.
You're getting your fiber in, cutie.
You're going to have to poop after this.
Maybe.
Good segue.
Yeah.
Ladies and gentlemen, that's it for this episode of Fear.
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