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April 1, 2025 - Fear&
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We have beef with Wine About it | Fear&

Austin and Will recount their awkward GLAAD Awards experience, where Austin blanked on a red carpet question, before debating Elon Musk's "fraud" label regarding his Path of Exile power-leveling. They analyze performative outrage over Kingdom Come: Deliverance's gay sex options compared to 1990s classics and discuss 23andMe's genetic data sale victory. The hosts plan a May Day trip to Cuba, noting its medical revenue model under sanctions, while reflecting on Austin's stunt work in A Working Man where he improvised hitting an actor, proving presence is key to both acting and interviewing. [Automatically generated summary]

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Reclaiming Men's Position 00:12:01
I'm trying to not be offensive.
What I'm really trying to do is you're doing good.
Yeah, you're too good.
Am I being offensive?
Hey.
Hassan, why were you letting me drown like this?
Help me!
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of the Fear and Podcast, where the men are reclaiming their position in the world at the end of women's month.
That's right.
No more women.
Let's go.
We did too much.
Over.
We did too much.
We had Phineas on, and I realized, like, there is a better way out there.
Yeah.
Like, no more women.
That's right.
You know?
Austin, I don't know if you saw this, but Hassan and I saw it.
We have to open up a beef with wine about it.
Oh, what's going on?
They not only talked shit about the episode with Phineas, they did so having not watched the episode.
Wait, raise?
Yeah, they have like a, they have like a 10-minute bit on their podcast going over and speculating about a podcast episode they hadn't watched yet.
Yes.
And I wasn't going to say anything.
However, Cutie Cinderella crossed the line.
What'd she say?
She said Farley needs braces.
That is the part of his identity.
Yeah.
Like, I feel like he would, when he does his like gay little park stuff.
Yeah.
Like if he didn't have, if he didn't have the underbite, like they wouldn't even recognize him.
Also, just for the record, I asked the dentist when he was a puppy if he should have corrective surgery and he said it would be extremely painful and uncomfortable.
I was going to say he doesn't need braces.
He would need to, they need to break his jaw.
I'm just saying like the surge.
I'm not saying you need this guy.
I'm not saying that we want to break his jaw.
Dr. Mengele for dogs over here.
No, no, but that's that's what you do.
You would have to.
That's what you do to your twings.
No, I don't break well.
Elective surgery.
Wait, I'm stuck here because you're saying what you're saying is like, if I'd say no, are you trying to say I have a big penis?
Because that's what.
What?
No, think about that.
Wait.
Wait.
What are you?
Where did that come from?
I need you to do the math.
Show your work on that.
Okay, let me show you.
How the fuck did you get there?
You said, do I break the jaws of the men that I sleep with?
And that would be by encouraging them to get electric surgery.
Oh, no.
I thought.
That's what we were talking about.
Why did this become a penis thing?
Why else would you talk about break?
I just don't.
I think the jump is a little bit more reasonable.
Bro, the gunpowder.
I'm sorry.
You mouth in chat.
Sound off in the chat.
There was a time period where Austin used to be significantly hornier.
And then he started taking Propecia.
And now the horny level had diminished until this very moment.
Wait, this is old Austin.
No, no, I'm just as, I haven't taken my Propecia in a few days.
Oh, he's horned up already.
Oh, my God.
Take the Propetia, dog.
No, no.
No, no.
Get back on it.
I'll be honest, I didn't notice any drop in my sex drive when I started.
You called your penis the jawbreaker just now.
You really did.
We're not even three minutes in.
The girth mask.
Yeah, I just have so much girth.
Is that what you're saying?
Because I do.
I have girls.
Anyway, we're probably going to whine about a clip, and they're probably both snarking right now with the, look, they're talking about penises.
So we're not going to do that, but I just want to say, Maya, cutie, I was hurt.
Yeah.
I was hurt.
I'm angry.
I'm not even hurt.
I'm angry.
I just expect from them.
Oh, yeah.
I watched the whole thing.
I watched it on stream.
It was very funny because, like, one, they didn't even.
They were going through the topics and they were like, Mr. Spud.
And they didn't even know that those were Phineas's time.
Yeah, they were inadvertently dunking on Phineas, being like, what a bunch of stupid topics they talked to him about.
Why didn't they pick apart his brilliant mind and his like musical ability?
And it's like, yeah, he was the one who wanted to talk about these topics.
And also, it was awesome.
It was an amazing episode.
And also, everybody's picked apart his mind already.
We want to, nobody's talked to him about potatoes.
Yeah, the real stuff.
Yeah, the real stuff, the sustenance.
Mr. Spud.
That's right.
That's right.
You know what?
I'm going to hit him up.
I want to go to Spud Bros tomorrow.
Yeah.
I'm ready.
Would you stay back for that?
I'm going to be here anyway.
But are we why?
I have to go to Vegas tomorrow.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I've got sponsors, okay?
I got things to do.
I know.
That's why we're late right now.
I've been working again.
I've been working.
I know.
Yeah, this week.
Freaking annoying.
Speaking of which.
Yep.
Glad Awards.
Will and I went to the Glad Awards and had a spec hosted the road.
Austin, what does GLAD stand for?
Gay and Lesbians Alliance.
Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation.
Wow.
Yeah.
It took you, it took you months.
Definitely get to the point.
Promote inclusivity, LGBTQIA plus in representation in the media.
Also, there was something that was being represented on the red carpet, and that was a whole bunch of petty.
Oh, yeah.
So it seems like there was a recurring bit.
Yeah.
So there was a reoccurring bit where I thought it would be funny to ask queer people if they knew who Hassan Piker was.
For the record.
Yeah.
I want to say, I did not betray you.
Every time he brought it up, I would say, why aren't you doing this?
I saw.
I saw it.
You were there for me.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So I would ask these people, I'd be like, last question.
Oh, no.
I see you know who Hassan Piker is.
Oh, I saw.
I watched.
I watched.
And you know what?
Were you watching?
No, I didn't watch it live.
They were sending me clips.
But I watched your face of disappointment when some people did know who I was, which was crazy.
The bit double down.
He'd be like, yeah, you don't know.
The bit stopped when one of the drag queens grabbed the mic and went, Hassan Piker, if you're watching this, I'm a huge fan.
And also was like, this is backfiring spectacular fire.
Well, it turns out there's a lot of people in the queer community know who you are.
Yeah.
Which is why I couldn't take you to the event.
Yeah, no, I'm an enemy.
So that's probably why they knew.
They knew that I was like a, you know, a big homophobe, queer phobe kind of guy.
But I want to dial back for a second.
Yeah.
I was really overcome by how beautiful the Glad Awards were.
Yeah.
Cynthia Rivo, I was, I got to say, like Shaquille O'Neal, I was unfamiliar with your game.
And she gave a lovely speech that almost brought me to tears.
And the whole event was so cool.
All right.
Did you meet Sidney Sweeney or not?
She wasn't there.
Oh, no.
She wasn't there.
That's crazy.
It was, it was a phenomenal event.
It was really cool.
I had such a good time.
It was, it surpassed all of my expectations.
Yeah.
We got to meet and interview so many influential queer people.
Did you ask Joe Joseva to come on the podcast?
No.
No.
What the hell are you doing?
What am I supposed to do?
I feel like it would have been very self-stop.
What the hell are you doing?
What was I supposed to do?
Whatever.
Dude, I followed her on Instagram.
She didn't follow me back.
You're gay.
I'm gay.
Podcast.
What is this?
What is this?
Every time there is anything happening in the world, QD and everyone else is always telling me.
You just realize?
What?
Austin, are you the only member of Fear N not to book a guest?
No, I booked Poke the other week.
That doesn't count.
What are you talking about?
No, no, no.
Hold on.
You can't claim ownership of booking Pokemon.
I have a guest that I'm going to book for Pride.
What's your guest?
You want to know?
I haven't asked them yet.
So, this is they're going to find out about this, I think, on the podcast.
Troy Sivan.
Um, no, not Troy Sivan.
Damn it.
I, they, we're mutuals on Instagram.
I'm going to ask them.
Um, they're one of the triplets.
And you know, the triplets on TikTok, one of them's gay.
No, you think you've talked about them before.
You don't know?
I don't know.
Come on, you gotta know.
No, I don't.
I don't know.
I don't know anything.
I feel like you don't know the name either.
You're frantically looking.
What's the name?
No, I do know.
Why are my followers around the Glad Awards moment?
This is a real this is no, this is Glad Awards again.
Why are my followers out of the border?
What the hell is going on?
No, no, I do know their name.
Can I tell while he's frantically looking before Glad Awards?
We're getting suited and booted.
Yeah, you and I'm looking over the spectacular.
Thank you so much.
You had the Gucci, like red velvet cupcakes.
And a representative from Gucci found me and was like, Head to toe Gucci.
We'll remember that.
And I, it was fantastic.
Thank you.
It was very tasty.
But we were getting ready.
Austin, you looked good.
You look great.
You looked great.
You looked fabulous.
Yeah.
He's being cunty.
Are you kidding me right now?
What?
I'm not being cunty.
I was wearing a Dolce and Gabbana couture, Italian couture shirt with a blouse of some sort.
I don't know what.
A bow.
Austin.
Okay.
Austin.
A bow.
Austin, you also looked fantastic.
Thank you.
Great.
So we're getting suited and booted, and I'm going over the Facebook.
And I go to Austin.
I'm like, hey, I just want to let you know, there's a lot of names on here and a lot of people.
Oh, yeah.
And I only know about like 50% of them.
And Austin goes, well, I don't really know any of them.
And I go, Austin, you're kidding.
And he's like, no, I really don't.
I was like, well, you know, like the headliners, like Lil Nas X.
He goes, I know Lil Nas X.
I know.
Jojo C.
I know, yeah.
Cynthia Rivo.
And he goes, who's that?
And the two gays that were with.
Did you know Cynthia Review?
No, I didn't.
The two gays that were with went Austin.
And he was like, I don't know.
No, I knew Cynthia Regal.
Once we told Austin, Austin was like, just took a second.
Is Frank San Andre here?
Come on, what about Frank?
Frankie Valley in the fourth season.
No, I don't know.
Like, for some reason, I just really struggle to know very like common sense.
You knew a lot of faces without the names.
Yes.
You're like, I am where you're.
I feel that way too, though.
I'm very bad at that.
Also, during one of the interviews, I had like a stroke.
I've never seen Austin.
Like in the middle of the interview, I was like, he went.
Yeah, like I, I was in, we were interviewing a guy, and I was, Will asked him a question.
I had a question.
I was ready to ask the question.
I'll be Austin.
Show you be the guy.
So I was like, who are you wearing tonight?
Oh, I'm wearing Dolce and Gabbana.
Great, great.
I have a question.
Okay.
Will help me out.
And I was like, you have a question?
How happened?
Will help me out.
And he goes, he goes, ask him anything.
I don't even have a mic.
I don't even have a mic.
I grab his mic.
I go, all right.
So who are you most excited to bump into tonight?
And he's like, you're talking?
Austin grabs my mic and goes, I remember it now.
What are you working on?
And the guy goes, I have some projects coming up.
And it was so awkward because he was in the middle of answering this other question.
And Austin, in an effort to save himself from stroking out, grabs the mic and asked a question.
That's like one of our stuff in the middle of his response.
And you could see his face be like, I'm working on some music.
I don't know.
What would happen?
He did.
He better.
Okay, so what happened is, I had a question loaded, and then I completely blanked.
Wild Gay Social Events 00:06:05
And then my brain, instead of thinking of another question, I went to fuck.
I'm on the red carpet right now, and I forgot this question.
We're live.
I just didn't know what to say.
You've done way bigger events.
I know.
I just panicked.
I don't know what happened.
I've never had a lot of time.
I completely blanked out and I was like, oh my God.
You know what?
I don't even know who we are.
You know what it felt like?
That's like bombing in front of the parents' teacher conference for you.
What do you mean?
I know.
You've done it.
You know what it felt like, though?
I understand why he bombed because Austin is kind of like our panda bear raised in captivity, right?
We've raised him in gay captivity, and now we're reintroducing him to the gay wild.
And it's like watching him on a night vision camel when he's like first interacting with the girls.
Learning how to walk a baby deer with the other gays.
And they're like, oh, they're like smelling him, dude.
There's non-gay gay scent on this.
It really, because I'm a baby gay still, and I still have a lot to learn about gay culture.
And I'm learning, but whenever I get into like gay spaces, it is abundantly clear that I'm not very well rehearsed in gay culture.
And so I get very nervous.
Just like, for example, last night, I went out to drinks with some folks at the Abbey.
Can I just pause for a second?
Pause you for a second.
It's because your only experience in gay spaces is like the Abbey.
Oh, keep going.
Well, where else?
Where do you want to take me?
I don't know.
It's like there's sex parties.
No, what?
No, it's not.
That's not it.
Like, you don't.
You need like, you need like.
How about a gay wedding?
Yeah.
Okay.
You're right.
You need this party.
You're right.
No, it's also sex.
Also, this is like, this is wild for me to say to a gay man.
This is wild for me to say to a gay man, but like gay people are just people.
Just do like normal events with gay.
I'm gay.
I know I'm gay.
It's not just supposed to be like, stop gaslighting.
It's not about gay exclusive events.
I know.
I've had romantic dates with somebody who's telling our son how to be gay.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's not.
No, I'm not.
No, it's not even a romantic day.
It's gay social events.
Yes.
That's what I meant.
Yes.
I've only, I need to go fashion.
I don't know how you would end up hard.
You'd end up at more gay social events.
Move to Los Angeles.
Yes, exactly.
Yes.
Okay.
Well, it's not good that your mind immediately went to a gay sex orgy.
No, I mean, look, I think, look, being gay is so much more about than sex.
Yeah.
Right.
Obviously, I've had many, uh, many of our romantic relationships with men.
Right.
And it has not always to do with sex.
Okay.
Yep.
Right.
Um, anyways, I am planning to move to Los Angeles.
Hello?
Um, wait, I'm proud of you.
Thank you so much.
You're on this phone again.
Thank you so much.
This is why you're this is why you end up at all these gay sex parties because you're one of your gay dads is unplugged.
He can't leave work at work.
Yes.
You bring it home.
I'm sorry.
And our son is begging.
I'm starting to open the door right now.
Oh, I think that's my coffee.
No, that's my coffee.
Oh, shut up.
Jesus Christ.
Christ have mercy.
Do we really need to order two fucking separate coffees?
Yeah.
Well, he didn't ask me for my coffee.
So yeah.
But anyway, that was the Glad Awards.
And last thing I just want to say: some of the organizers of the Glad Awards and Vlad, we spoke to them and they were so amazing.
And we are excited to go back.
Yes, it was a privilege to be.
I'm not.
I'm not excited.
Because I wasn't invited.
What the fuck is this?
Can I be honest?
What?
We should tell him now.
What?
I had a plus one.
Yeah.
What do you mean?
You could have come.
You could have come.
Wait, why didn't you invite me?
He wanted to do the thing where he was asking if people knew.
Are you mad at me?
No.
Would you have gone?
I'm thinking slurs right now.
If you are.
I'm inventing new homo slurs in my head.
Can I be honest?
You know why I didn't invite you?
Thank you.
I was afraid of rejection.
Wait, what?
Like, no, you weren't.
Shut up.
I don't think you would have said yes.
I mean, you won't even listen to his stories.
You're on your phone.
Yeah.
I do listen to your stories.
I had to open.
No, no, I don't want to.
I don't want to.
So, what I was going to say is I got interviewed by the Abbey last night on the street.
Like, they were doing like social.
And the guy's like, you look familiar.
And I was like, oh.
Twink guy.
No.
No.
I don't know.
Can I be honest?
I have not made a Twink-related clip in months.
Yeah, but you fought for that moniker.
Yeah.
No, I didn't fight for it.
Yes, you did.
I don't want it.
And it seemed like you wanted to find more.
I didn't get a cold brew.
I got a black coffee.
I got a vanilla one.
What is that?
What?
What happened to our vanilla latte?
Hold on just a second.
Let me look at my Uber Eats.
Can I get one of the strawberries?
I got a bagel.
I just want this.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Wait, where the fuck is our coffee?
Will, do you want a cold brew?
Wait, hold on.
I ordered you.
I got a vanilla latte.
Hold on.
Just give me a second.
That's just iced coffee.
It's yours now.
Orders, past orders.
Wait, I, wait, hold on.
It shows two vanilla.
Now I got to get a refund.
Oh, my God.
Are there any more coffees there?
Are you kidding me?
Maybe it's outside the gate.
Yeah, it's outside the gate.
It's outside the gate.
They took a photo of it.
No, no, no outside the gate, not the front door, the front gate.
Yeah.
Sorry.
So I get interviewed by the Abbey, and immediately when this listening, I'm listening.
When this interview, I'm doing something.
When this interview begins, it is abundantly clear that I do not know enough about queer culture to answer these questions.
So hit me with some of the questions.
Are you a espresso martini gay or a margarita gay?
Elon Musk Path of Exile 00:15:34
Okay.
And so I said.
I think I could parse together what that is.
I think you're a third thing, first of all.
I think you're a fireball shot gay.
Wait, what do you mean?
What do you think it meant?
Okay, I think an espresso martini is like, wake up, keep it together, chic.
Yeah, and sophisticated.
Margarita is like sloppy.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I figured that out after the fucking.
Yeah.
Thank you.
But I couldn't ask.
Anyway, I flopped in the interview because I realized like, oh my God, like they're asking me very, very queer-centric questions.
Give us another one.
Let's see if we can handle this.
Who's your favorite?
Well, they asked, who's your favorite drag queen that you've seen perform at the Abbey?
Willem Belly.
But I haven't seen Willem Belli at the, that was what I, that's my favorite drag queen, Willem Belli and Detox, but I couldn't say that because I haven't seen him perform at the Abbey.
Why don't you just lie?
Well, I don't know.
It's also a very gay trait to lie.
Just lie.
Yeah, you're right.
That's right.
That's great.
It is.
He's right.
He's right.
But anyway, I need to study up more.
And the Glad Awards is a good first step in the right direction.
I was really proud of you.
You did a really good job.
And I met the entire cast at RuPaul's Drag Race.
Yeah.
I mean, it was great.
Speaking of elevating queer voices.
Sure.
I've had quite the busy week, and I think it's good to talk about it because it's not necessarily all political.
I interviewed a bunch of people this week.
But the conversation that I had yesterday was particularly interesting.
I interviewed Elon Musk's estranged daughter.
But how that conversation started is also interesting.
In the beginning of the week, the Assassin's Creed Shadows, the latest game from Ubisoft, is out.
All the gamers are very upset about it.
We've talked about it a little bit.
These guys are super sweaty.
Main character is black.
They think it's unacceptable.
And they've just been pummeling this, right?
And they've been going after people that have been doing ads for it, myself included.
Ironically enough, they didn't go after Asmund Gold, who liked the game.
And I believe he also might have done an ad for it as well, but they didn't go after him because he's their hero.
But they came after me, this 60-year-old Blizzard employee by the name of Grums, former Blizzard employee, who's a bit of a scammer and kind of like trying to do a Gamergate 2.0.
Look who's on his phone now while I'm telling you.
I'm listening, though.
There's a difference.
So this entire story starts with Grums, who is a 60-year-old former Blizzard employee who's a bit of a scammer trying to do like, he's basically an outrage merchant.
He like yells about every video game being woke or gay or black or whatever, right?
And, you know, a lot of people take their nose from the 60-year-old man and also blow up certain issues, issues within the gaming space.
He's been coming after Assassin's Creed Shadows.
I did an ad for them.
I did a sponsorship with them.
Shouts out to Ubisoft for that one.
He posted like, oh, I guess Ubisoft is in support of terrorism now.
Something along those lines.
And of course, he's a huge fucking loser.
And who else is the biggest fucking loser on that platform?
That's right.
The owner of the platform, Elon Musk.
Elon Musk has hated me since I interviewed Grimes, his baby mama, many, many years ago.
I've known about this for quite some time.
I've talked about it a little bit.
He has made subtle jabs in my direction in the past, but never directly.
Gabe, do you mind pulling that up?
You can pull it up off of my Twitter profile if you would like.
Elon's going to be watching this podcast.
Probably not this podcast, but he definitely watched.
That's crazy.
I mean, he definitely watches.
We know he's a Twitch head.
Yeah, if you go to my profile and scroll down a bunch, you'll be able to find the initial.
I am an electric Audi.
I mean, I'm an EV guy as well.
That'll really get him.
I mean, you're really going for the jugular there, Austin.
It's a screenshot.
Yeah, I think that's the first one.
Or no, that's not the first one.
Go back to my profile a little bit further down.
There it is.
Is that the one?
No, one more.
We're going to get to that in a second.
One more, It's like the original.
Oh, there it is.
So the conversation is, you can tell, Grums goes, you can tell a lot about Ubisoft with how much money they're throwing at terrorist platform extremers.
And this is a screenshot of me doing an ad to which Elon Musk responded with, Hassan is a fraud.
Sellout would be more accurate.
Objectively, he's promoting a terrible game just for the money.
Elon probably doesn't know that I'm a huge weeb and I've actually been enjoying Assassin's Creed Shadows.
But regardless, I took that screenshot and I said, this bitch literally pays someone to power level his character in Path of Exile 2.
What do you mean I'm a fraud?
Elon, I challenge you to a duel in Eldering.
I will cook your fat rolling ass.
So for you don't know any of the terms that I just mentioned here.
No, no.
Will is completely locked in.
Elon Musk has a really bad build famously.
He's a bad gamer.
Gamers.
Generously, we'll call it off meta.
Yeah.
Off meta is not.
This is too generous.
He is very bad at video games, but because he's just like thin-skinned, narcissistic, like weirdo, he wants gamers to really love him and think that he's like this fantastic gamer.
So he famously, and was exposed by Quinn69 and Crip on doing this.
Path of Exile is a very difficult game.
He hired someone from, I don't know which Asian country he hired them from, but he was working on an Asian server to power level his character all the way to the tippy top of the ladder where like he was top 10 ranked in the entire on the entire planet, which of course drew a lot of speculation initially that like they're like, How the fuck did this guy do this?
You would have to play basically every single day, every single moment since the game had come out.
Um, and and when he uh actually live streamed himself playing with this character, everybody figured out, oh my god, this guy's a fraud.
Like, he made someone else, um, he paid someone else to play this character in power level.
So that's what I was referencing.
And I was also referencing the fact that he's a fraudulent gamer.
Um, but it didn't end there.
Yeah, scroll up a little bit, go back and scroll up a little bit.
So Elon uh is at this point not responding to me, but instead responding to uh to Grums.
You go back to the yeah, underneath the grums one.
Yeah, yeah, I blocked you.
So you pull that tweet up.
Yeah, so Grums then turns around and posts about how I had blocked, uh, I had blocked Elon Musk, right?
And that was a moment of cowardice from their perspective.
They wanted to win this battle as best to the best of their ability.
We're getting ratioed pretty heavily here.
And he called me a 60-year-old man, by the way, wealthiest person on the planet.
He said, Hassan is such a chicken shit R-word that he blocked me.
Crying emoji, crying emoji, laughing, crying emoji, to which I responded with, yeah, I blocked you at Elon Musk, which I then unblocked.
When I first saw that tweet, I literally thought that like Anti Piker or one of your Twitter people had like Photoshopped a tweet and I had to do like a wee wee.
Oh my god, richest man on the planet, one of the most powerful individuals on the planet, and this is how he spends his days calling uh Twitch streamers chicken shit R words.
60 year old man, by the way, 14 children.
So I said, Yeah, I blocked you out, Elon Musk, because you bought this website and forced everyone to see your dumbass tweets 7,000 times a day.
Why do you think I'm afraid of you?
Come on the stream if you're such a big man.
After all of this happened, Ubisoft came in and death blow and delivered the finishing blow, the perfect assassination, if you will.
Right there.
And let's see what you did there.
Yeah.
Oh, is it?
Is that what the guy paying?
Is that what the guy playing your Path of Exile 2 account told you?
This is a biblical ratio.
And you know, Elon, you know, Elon boosted his shit because initially his stuff had like 300 likes or something.
And then when Assassin's Creed came in and daggered him, okay, like NCO.
I'm pretty sure this tweet sold more copies of Assassin's Creed than their entire advertising game combined.
And then, and then they also had another one for Grums as well.
Grums was like, oh, you guys are still like failing.
And they were like, well, you know, our game is, at least our game is out because Grums famously is a Kickstarter.
Yeah.
He had a Kickstarter fiasco.
He wanted to make a game.
The game is not out and it's dog shit and it's never going to come out.
That's why he's a big outreach team.
Holy shit.
So Assassin's Creed basically assassinated these guys.
And I think it was a really interesting moment of catharsis for a lot of people because these dudes are so fucking whiny and annoying and lame.
And the things that they're mad about that they get a lot of hype from other fucking whiny, annoying little losers is like things that you should be embarrassed to think, let alone say out loud.
It's like, why are like Grums' claim to fame is a video game called Stellar Blade, a Korean video game, where one of the characters has like 52 different outfits.
They're skimpy, they're scantily clad, they're sexy, it's fantastic, whatever.
They're pretty good.
One of the bunny outfits had like additional pixelation that covered titties in the first day patch.
And he thought this was a major blow to freedom of speech.
And they unironically made like a change.org petition with like tens of thousands of signatures, with people filming themselves saying, and you're saying that he was right in that instance, but he's not always right.
Well, my point is like you shouldn't that's what you're saying right, you shouldn't be that much of a gooner.
I think, like you should be embarrassed.
I think we should bring back yeah, I was saying the same thing.
We should bring back shape is what I think.
Um, we're all exp on that one yeah yeah well Will, also doesn't agree with grabs on that one for the record.
But um, after this call out I, you know, I told Elon because I know that the reason why he's so annoyed with my existence is because I had interviewed Grumes prior and uh, and he's hated me ever since.
So I said look, if you keep stuff, if you don't want to come on the stream, i'm gonna interview.
I'm gonna interview your estranged daughter that you have uh, that you have been a horrible father to, that you've been an awful monster to.
And then she saw it and she was like oh, I would love to come on the stream.
And that is how we arrived at yesterday's interview.
Uh-huh, she was cool, she was dope, all things considered, I think, like you know, having Elon as as uh, your parental figure I think is is probably fairly damaging to to anyone uh, and and she's come out of that uh, as a spectacular human being.
How do they, how do conservatives do the mental gymnastics of talking about family values and everything like that?
Yet they've got this guy who has a daughter that he's completely shut out of his life and and says is like dead, yeah and yeah.
And how how do they?
How do they reconcile those differences?
Gay oh yeah right yeah, no.
Conservative's okay no, the Family, THE Family Values Party, loves making their queer teenager children homeless, like we gotta protect our immortal soul often.
Yeah, what do you want to burn in hellfire forever and ever for a little butt?
Sexery yeah no sure, I did the interview yesterday and, as you can here, you can play this video sexery yeah um, where she talks specifically about Elon's uh uh, loser bullshit uh, and how much of a fake gamer he is here.
This is one part of it.
A sponsor for uh, I can't expose something that I think is really funny, which is the fact that I suspect when I was like 12, he was bronze and overwatch and me and my twin weren't, and he would try to constantly get us to play rings with him and i'm like 90 sure it was just because we could carry him and I was like a 12 12-year-old, Hans O'Maine, who was like barely in silver.
He was a bronze Torbiorn main.
He was fucking dog shit.
Like god-awful.
So, no, I don't believe the fucking.
He's like, I, it's like, I am a pro path of exile, whatever the fuck.
Like, no, the fuck you are not.
This is so cringe.
Why would you even pretend to be like, it's fine not to be a gamer?
I know.
Right?
A sponsor for yeah.
Yeah, that one, that one did numbers on Twitter.
Ironically now, what is it at now?
What the fuck?
I think the most offensive part is Torbjorn Main.
Yes.
Yeah, for people that don't know, I mean, that is like, for people that do know, for gamers, that's like the most offensive part because it's a, it's an auto aim character.
It was.
It was.
They changed that a little bit.
But back in the day, yeah.
Yeah.
It was free, though.
So it's like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Yeah, but the difference between you and Elon Musk is that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and you're not going to like fake that you're like, it's also much funnier to be a shitty gamer.
It's much more entertaining to be a shitty gamer and lean into the fact that you're a shitty gamer.
Right.
You know, like, it's okay, Elon.
You could be a shitty gamer, just like you're a shitty father.
While we were doing the interview, Elon Musk reposted this, like, literally while we were talking about his gaming prowess.
Yeah, dude, that monitor is so huge.
That is actually crazy to sit that close to that.
Wait, so he submitted this after people.
This was his rebuttal.
Yeah.
He reposted this from like a fan account while we were having this interview.
So he reposted it and it still only has 2,700 likes.
That's so embarrassing.
Elon is beating the fake gamer allegation.
It says Keemstar is Drama Alert.
God, there's so.
So the thing that's funny, and I think even Quinn would say this, is like games like Diablo and games like Path of Exile, because I am a Diablo gamer.
It's not the actual mechanics of the game that are really like the hardest part.
It's building and understanding a build and optimizing and becoming as optimistic.
And the grind of it too.
Yeah.
And the punishing grind of it.
So him playing Path of Exile after someone else has built his character is really not that impressive.
Like those mechanics you can get pretty quick.
Yeah.
Well, especially because in his POE2 build, like he had insane gear, which you could only get through trade.
And the speculation was that they were using real currency to make some of these trades because you can see the trade logs because the API is like out in the open.
Dude, funny.
I went to a baby no money concert and then there was a Blizzard employee there.
Yeah.
And they were like, we were following you when you were doing the first to level 100.
Oh, really?
Baldur's Gate Controversy 00:06:20
Yeah.
And he's like, I went and took a picture of your name on Lilith.
Oh, that's sick.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was one of the first 100 people in the world to do that.
Yeah, that was, you were on one while.
I cried afterward.
It was really hard.
It was so hard.
Yeah.
God, when is there going to be a game that I'm good at?
That's popular.
You have to play them.
Yeah.
No, I know, but no one is just good at a game.
No, no, I used to be good at.
What's the last time you put hours into a game?
Call of Duty.
Okay.
I was good at it.
Yeah, you got to put hours in.
I used to go like 36 and 4.
Dude, by the way, speaking of putting hours into a game, you were so right when you were like, you have to play Kingdom Com.
It's so good.
I have invested more than 100 hours into it.
It is so, so good.
Freaking good.
Oh my God.
Not to cut you out of this conversation.
No, it's okay.
There's a gay.
I literally started it because I wanted to have gay sex.
Whoa, hold on.
In the game?
Yeah, hold on.
This is the controversy.
Hold on.
He's in.
Hold on.
Now we're getting somewhere.
So you wanted to experience gay sex vicariously through well, it's hot gay sex.
Yeah, yeah.
No, the point is it's it's kingdom come deliverance is actually like a like a work of passion is the way I would describe it.
It's like a relatively small team, I think, initially that made it.
What is War Horse?
Is the name of the developer?
And like the guy who's like the face of the brand, the phrase of the face of the franchise is like... a bit of a gamer gate guy.
He's like a bit of a right-wing guy, right?
And for that reason, like all these gamers have like hailed this video game up as like a fantastic addition to the franchise because they don't fucking care about the actual games ever.
They care about the controversy surrounding them.
But this one was controversial because there was an opportunity to have gay sex with one of the main characters.
Yeah.
Wait, so, okay, keep going.
So all these right-wing gamers turned on him and they were like, what, what do you, what do you mean?
You put a black character in there and you put a gay sex option in there?
How dare you do that?
You're woke now.
You got you're woke now.
Because that's all it takes.
Optional gay sex.
I was going to say, even tempting somebody with gay sex.
So they were angry that they would be tempted by the sight of gay sex.
Austin, you are beginning to learn what most of these controversies are.
I was going to say.
So like you have gay sex in the game.
You don't even have to do the gay sex.
Yeah, yeah.
No, you have to.
And it's like all the way at the end and it's optional and you don't like it's even hard to pursue.
Yeah, you got to be really honest.
So to even be angry about this, you have to select doing the gay sex.
A lot of stuff throughout the entire game.
By the way, I just want to point out optional gay sex in video games is not new.
Yeah, it's not.
Like, have you ever heard of Final Fantasy VII?
There is famously optional gay sex with Barret.
And that game is from the fucking 90s.
Yeah.
And also, I mean, that game in and of itself is like the most woke game you can make.
By the way, you're a climate change terrorist.
Such a better name for our podcast is optional gay.
Optional gay sex.
Yeah, I like that.
That's a great name.
Yeah.
So, yeah, you're absolutely right.
You nailed it.
A lot of this outrage stuff is just like new and it's very directional where no one will get mad at Baldur's Gate, even though you can be as trans as you want to be in Baldur's Gay, but because that was so popular that gamers couldn't like, you know, create controversy around it.
And these guys, I think, just hate it.
Like, they just hate video games.
But going back to Kingdom Come Deliverance, you started gay sex.
I started it specifically because like, oh, I thought maybe you can let it happen like early on.
I won't have to like invest a lot of time into it.
And I can do it as like a bit of a meme to see if it's woke or not.
Right.
And then I got really dialed in on the game.
It's so much fun.
So do you have to be gay like during the game to get to the end?
And there's some gay conversation options.
Yeah.
So like, but do you have to like make sure you select those from the beginning?
Yeah.
Okay.
Cause if you didn't, it's not like, hey, strange guy.
No.
You want to fuck a guy?
Yeah, it is.
He's not ready.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's a long line.
So you tried to chose the gayest options as possible.
Hans Capon and Henry of Skellitz.
So do they show these?
And I did not have the gay sex because I did not find Hans attractive or fun.
Yeah.
He offended my sensibility.
Well, Hans Capon is a douche.
Have you gotten to the gay sex part yet?
Not yet.
I'm almost at the end, I think.
So you're going to stream the gay.
Yeah.
I just played the cutscene.
What is it?
I just played the part where I do.
I do.
I want to see it.
Let's see how they portray it.
It is very cool, I think, because you can tell the dudes that made the game are insanely invested in history.
Like they are like as someone who has a very different as someone who learned a lot about that time period, but from the perspective of the Ottoman Empire, which is like kind of in the backdrop at every moment in the game, I truly, I love it.
I appreciate it as a history nerd a little bit.
And they very clearly care a lot about like historical accuracy in the game, which is why it was really funny when they were like the fans who are now haters of the game were like, there's no gay people in Bohemia in the 1400s.
It's like, yes, there were, dude.
Like, the fucking thing.
History, what people don't understand is history was much like we've, it's always been gay.
Very gay.
It wasn't until Christianity is what like kind of shut the whole gay stuff down or at least like pushed it to the pushed it to the dark corners.
Whereas like people were gay as fuck before that.
And even during the period of Christianity, people in the Ottoman Empire was were gay as hell.
Like they didn't, they did not give a fuck about that at all.
Turkish baths are just really gay.
So what else is going on, guys?
I mean, look, there's a lot going on in the world, but it's all dark.
And this is my moment of Zen, an escape from all of the minutiae.
So this is where you guys tell me.
I have had the busiest week of my entire year this week.
Okay, I got a topic because you guys both fucking struck out.
Calling Me a Bad Muslim 00:04:53
Well, wait, what do you mean?
I just gave you guys.
I've been freezing.
Okay.
23andMe just won a court case to sell your genetic information to advertisers.
Oh, yeah.
One other.
Yes.
Look it up.
Wait, really?
Yep.
Yep.
So, well, why don't we just stop giving them our DNA?
Well, because people did it over there.
Yeah, people who have already done 23andMe to find out where they are from or what their heritage is.
They already have that data.
So now they have the right to sell that data.
So.
So what was the, what was the, what was the anchoring?
Lebanese, you should tell us now because we're going to find out.
Well, I haven't taken a 23andMe.
That's what she thinks.
You think I'm lying?
I've sent your DNA off.
I'm so Lebanese that we had a makeup artist do my makeup.
Okay.
And I asked her, I said, look.
Is this how you're going to frame this?
Well, no.
Let me finish.
Sure.
Tell the accurate events of what she said.
We had a makeup artist, and I stopped her in the middle of the makeup and I said, look, I know I'm white.
Right?
Yeah.
But what else am I?
And she goes, what was the first thing she said, Austin?
She goes, are you sure?
That was the first thing she said.
You're on your phone.
I'm looking up.
No, I'm listening to what he's saying, but I'm looking up a news story.
So she says, are you sure?
And I said, of course I'm sure.
Yeah.
Other than white, what am I?
She looks at me.
She goes, Lebanese.
And we all celebrated.
And we all celebrated the room erupted.
I'm proud of you.
Because Lebanese.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Try to erase his identity.
Please don't stop.
First of all, there's hella white people that are Lebanese.
Yourself included.
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
Are you trying to erase my culture?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
He's trying to erase my culture.
Go back on your phone.
Go back on your phone, you fucking Philistine.
You're just jealous that I can speak Arabic.
Thank you.
Oh, go ahead.
Give me that sweet, sweet Arabic.
Prove us right.
Assalamu alaikum.
Malaykum Salam.
Malaykum Salam.
I say that both of them.
Oh, I know, but I was saying it.
Salam al-Alaykum.
Alaykum As-salam.
Alaikum Salam.
I can't even understand him.
He's putting off so many people.
He's got such a thick Turkish accent.
Okay.
You're right.
Inshallah.
He's being cruel.
And one of my favorite words.
Fuck your sister.
I know.
Your mother's one of my favorite words is mashallah.
Mashallah.
Like to describe something of beauty that only God could.
Yeah.
Like, oh my God, mashallah.
I was only a Lebanese.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of what you're your family is not even Muslim Lebanese.
Yeah, I know they're Christian.
They're Christian.
What are you saying right now?
Allah just means God.
Okay, but like you're you're pointing you're pointing to a lot of you know I respect all religions.
Okay.
Speaking of which, happy Ramadan at the end of Ramadan.
Yeah.
To you.
Hassan.
Yeah, that's right.
I didn't do anything.
I did not participate.
People were very angry.
I posted the clip of the Ramadan and how I was confused that Allah wasn't, you know, I mixed up Allah and God and everything.
It was a clip about Ramadan and we were talking about, remember, I said like Allah sacrificed his whole life for you.
And you're like, oh, you think what do you think is Jesus Christ?
He's sacrificing.
And everybody saw Hassan in the clip and they were like, this isn't funny.
Hassan isn't fasting.
They were basically calling you a bad Muslim.
They were very upset by it.
Oh, no, I know.
I'm Kiafi.
Yeah.
Or I guess it's not.
It's not a Kiafi.
I forget what the term for it is.
Oh, this is making you a worse Muslim by the sex.
Well, let's read some of the comments here.
We got the video right now.
I don't give a shit.
One of the top comments, well, it's the fact that it's abundantly clear that the only figure Austin knows in Islam is Allah.
That's not true.
Muhammad.
As a Muslim, it's funny.
Y'all need to chill.
La Mau.
Maybe Allah won't guide Hassan to be a practicing Muslim.
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
This is a fake.
The ship is sailed off.
The ship is sailed on that one, chatter.
I love that in this room, I'm probably the best Muslim.
Okay, that's a bit ridiculous.
You think so?
Yeah.
Have you ever...
I don't eat pork.
I don't eat pork.
I don't drink for the boxing training.
Going to Cuba Trip 00:15:22
I haven't had a drink since Japan.
I don't drink either.
You drink all the time.
You drunk?
Wait, what?
No, I don't.
Also, the I don't eat pork one is really funny because that is like that's you're like a Turkish Muslim.
Thank you.
You can drink alcohol.
You can do whatever you want.
Just don't eat pork.
You're good.
I eat pork, only bacon.
I don't like a pork chop.
That's still that's pork.
Yeah.
Also, even if you eat like dummy bears and stuff, like there's pork gelatin in it.
Technically, there's a lot of stuff that's not.
Oh, get you.
Well, like I said, I just gave up on, I gave up on religion once I came out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It can't be really accepted.
I'm not a particularly religious person either.
It's funny that people are like, wow, this guy non-practicing.
He's messed up.
Yeah.
True.
I don't know if I'll, but yeah, 23andMe.
Yeah, we moved on.
Oh, we're not talking about that anymore.
We're so far from that.
We were talking about Islam, Austin.
Oh, I know.
I was just circling back to the original talk about.
That's not cripplingly depressive.
I want to go to Cuba.
Would you be down?
I fucking love Cuba.
Oh, yeah, you'd be down?
Yeah, I feel good.
I think I gotta be there.
The Cuban government actually hit my contact from the embassy and told him that if the only thing stopping us on coming to Cuba was the consistent internet access, we can make it happen.
Yeah, Cuba is sick.
Wait, the government reached out to you.
So, yeah, yeah, of course.
It's, well, not reach out to me.
There's like, there's a middleman there.
Because I had a doctor from Cuba.
Cuba does this thing called medical missions, and they've been doing it since, I believe, like the 70s.
And it's incredibly successful.
They have a massive, very robust, like medical program because kind of they have to.
because they're under an incredible sanctions regime by the United States of America that the rest of the world thinks is abhorrent, except for America and Israel that keep consistently vetoing it over and over again.
But this has created a, this has created a major issue, obviously, where Cuba has basically had to like educate their own doctors.
And because they have an abundance almost of doctors now, that they have been sending their doctors out as like medical missions and also generating revenue for the country this way as well.
Like they send the doctors out to like Jamaica, for example, or other countries where they need additional help.
And a piece of their salary goes back to the Cuban government because like, you know, they've been...
It's like it's like military.
You know how like soldiers are paid by the government?
It's like doctors.
Instead of sending soldiers overseas, they send doctors.
And I was talking to a doctor from Cuba yesterday about this and he told me that there is a couple different things that are happening in Cuba right now that I can go and visit.
Cuba's just sick to be.
I went to Cuba before any other Americans were really allowed to go.
I went on a student visa to film a documentary and I had a fucking blast.
I had so much fun.
I played street baseball.
I lived at an Oregony Ponico, an urban like farm and it was so sick.
It was so awesome.
We can do it fairly soon as well.
Dude, Cuba.
We can either go for May Day.
May Day is a huge deal because Cuba is a socialist country and May Day is like the International Day of Solidarity for Workers.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
We'll go to Cuba and then we'll go to Miami.
No.
No.
Why not?
Because we're talking about an awesome place to go to and you want to turn it into like the pedophile crypto paradise trip.
What?
I'm not.
I hate Florida so much.
You know, I just wanted to go to Miami.
We can go to the beach.
So anyway, he can go to Miami.
Yeah, you stay in Miami.
You can stay in the Ritz-Carlton or wherever.
Cuba doesn't have beaches?
No, we can go to Cuba, go to the beach, but then we can also go to Miami.
We could do it all.
No, I don't want to go.
I know Cuba has beach.
It's an island.
Cuba has beach.
Beach.
Many beach in Cuba.
Oh, Jesus.
Right?
They've got a lot of beaches.
Isn't that like an AI video?
Cuba is known for its beautiful beach.
It's right next to water.
It's surrounded by water.
Of course it has to be.
Yeah.
That's sick.
I'm glad that you're down for it.
Austin.
I can stay behind, I think.
I'll go.
I think I'd be able to do that.
My dad, Cuba.
Actually, you guys spent part of his life growing up in Cuba.
Also, yeah, he lived in Cuba.
They did not.
Also, of the three of us, I speak the best Spanish.
It's not even close.
We would be going with March.
Shit.
But he's operating the camera.
Absolutely.
He's operating the camera.
What about that, Austin?
We would need you to run cameras for the Cuba trips.
No, I can't.
No, he's not going to be able to.
I'm not going to be able to handle that responsibility.
No, March can do both.
He's got it all.
I'll go to Cuba.
We've been talking about a couple trips, chat.
Cuba and also China.
It's just, there's limited amount of space.
Yeah.
So he's already been.
There's no way you guys can navigate an airport without me.
He's already been.
He's been to Cuba.
He's already been there.
Mark speaks Spanish.
You.
Yeah, but Marsh doesn't speak Cuban Spanish like I do.
Yeah.
What's the difference between Cuban Spanish and regular Spanish?
Well, Cuban Spanish is Cuban Spanish.
What's the difference?
There's no regular Spanish.
Come on.
There's lots of different types of Mexican Spanish.
He speaks Mexican Spanish.
There's just what notably there's just a few different words.
They dropped the S Well Now Austin would have known that if he knew anything about Cuba.
And they speak a little quicker.
Also, in the wrong direction.
But yeah, no, you can come too.
Cuba's gay as fuck, by the way.
I know.
I've been to Miami.
Please stop comparing Cuba to Miami.
Wait, I'm not trying.
Wait, is that a it's?
Imagine if we're going to send you back on a raft.
Imagine if some imagine if there was a socialist revolution in a country and then, like a lot of people that were not so fond of said socialist revolution of the country, went directly to the nearest area that they could go to in the side of the country that is not fond at all of the socialist revolution.
I have been around a lot of Cuban people because there's a huge Cuban population in Miami, Florida.
No i'm, i'm very familiar.
These are very different.
I'm not saying that the Cuba that we're saying is the same as the Cuba that we're, that that the Cuban people that i've surrounded myself with.
What i'm trying to say is i'm trying to not be offensive.
Is what i'm really trying to say?
Yeah, you're definitely offensive.
Now hey, why were you letting me drown like this?
Help me, because it's funny.
Yeah, but is it?
Are people gonna be mad at me?
Austin did stunt work recently.
I don't know if you know this.
Yeah we're, we're gonna get to that.
Uh, I want to watch that video.
But last thing I will say is, can you help me?
They're not gonna get mad at you.
They're gonna get mad at me.
Why?
And possibly Will, because he's been to Cuba already.
What did I do?
Not the Cubans in Cuba but uh, the Cubans in Miami will get mad at me for saying I like Cuba and want to go to Cuba.
Oh, but well no, Cubans in Miami are not going to be mad about you.
First of all, i'm saying this, I love Cuban people.
I just want to be very clear, yeah yes, me too, but my, my point is, you there's, they're very there's some very flamboyantly dressed people in Miami, and I love them all and I support both places equally.
Very cool, even the serial killers in Miami.
No, not those, except those.
Yeah, everyone bought the serial, but I dislike them equally.
Such a politician um yeah Will, and I did some stunt work.
Yeah, can we pull that up?
Yeah, it's on Will's youtube channel.
Yeah Will was, Will was showing it to me and I was like I don't want to see this because I want to watch it in real time.
So uh yeah, just go to my.
I need to.
Uh, there it is.
Skip forward, skip forward, skip forward, skip forward.
So what is this for?
Oh, you skipped too much.
There's a movie called A Working Man In Uh which is coming out in theaters, march, it's yesterday, it was yesterday.
Um, just safe luck.
Yeah, we filmed.
Well, we did.
We did a trailer that was themed after the movie.
Yeah yeah, I love that you've been doing.
What's up guys?
We're gonna go save Caroline right now.
Go back a little bit further as well.
Yeah, because Caroline keeps getting kidnapped.
From what I understand, this is the part I did see.
Yes, go ahead, play from here which makes sense.
I'll get this.
Let me see.
It's good.
Okay, all right natural natural, we're about to save a woman.
Okay, we're about to save a woman.
Yeah yeah, what's up guys?
Hey, you're here in this abandoned warehouse because my girlfriend Caroline, has been kidnapped for a third time this world.
Anyway, i'm here with Austin Show and Conried's pants.
That's right Connor, where the god damn it?
We lost him.
I think we lost him.
I thought he was back there, Could still be back there.
Why are you yelling?
I don't know.
Maybe he can't.
Can you hear us, Carter?
Wait, pause.
That's natural.
You're riffing.
This is all improv.
Yeah, it's all improv.
Yeah.
Fantastic, Austin.
Wait, really?
Will obviously is a legend, but you did very well here.
Really?
You played off very well.
Good yes.
One of the top comments of this clip was Austin can act.
Yeah, it's shocking because I've seen you before try to act.
Because it was improv, I didn't have to deliver a line.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which famously is terrible.
And then we'll have him make a cameo later.
Okay.
Okay.
That's good.
What's up, guys?
We're going to go save Caroline right now.
Douchebag YouTuber is perfect.
Thank you.
I've been working on it.
Yeah.
We've done many of those in our IRO trips.
So, hey, see this bit?
Improvised.
Austin.
Let's go.
Austin.
I love this because you are being apologized for Dave.
This is Dave, right?
No, there's no Dave.
I want to wind it back real quick.
Austin hit this poor stuntman in the face no less than 12 times.
And they actually kept one of the takes where Austin pops the guy in the head, go back and just frame through this.
You can see Austin drill him.
Watch this.
Frame by frame.
Go back.
Yeah, just do a frame by frame as you go through this.
Right?
No, there's no.
If you use the arrow key, no, not arrow key.
Period.
Yeah.
Period or the other one.
Yes.
So you can see Austin actually makes contact there and then keep going.
You can see Austin's face afterward in a little bit of terror because he realizes he connected.
Like right there.
All right, play.
I mean, I popped him pretty good.
Yeah.
There's a moment of joy there.
Is that joy your experience?
No, that's terror.
It felt good, though.
Look at his.
No, he's like, oh shit, I hit him.
Yeah.
Feels good.
Can I be honest?
After we did this, I've been like, when I'm craving, when I'm out in public, I picture myself like somebody throwing a punch at me, blocking it, and all of a sudden, me like kicking somebody's ass like that.
Like the movies.
Snapping into action.
You're a fucking animal.
What's crazy?
You're an animal.
What's crazy to me is like, you know, you can understand if you, if somebody watches a movie and they're like trying to be like, do all these actions, and then you leave the movie and you're like, oh, that's just a movie.
It's just a movie.
Like, you can't do that in real life.
I did the movie.
Like, I was acting in the movie, clearly doing stunts.
Yeah.
And I still think I can do that in real life.
In real life.
Yeah.
Anyway, roll it.
You're saying you're delusional.
Yeah.
Let's keep going.
Come here.
Incredible.
His beat work is insane.
Let's go.
This beat right here.
That so good.
So, yeah, pause.
I'm not going to lie.
The action directors on the scene when we got done with the first take pause and they were like, Yeah.
Will, the beats you were serving were really good.
They were like, You're so good at that.
You know, it's funny.
It's like, this is like the fourth stunt thing.
Yeah, we've done one together for the thieves introduction.
I've done a lot of stunt work in the last years, and I kind of like it.
I'm good at it.
Yeah, you are.
Yeah, you're incredible.
It also reminds me of the samurai sword fight that we did.
Yeah.
You're very good at like selling it.
Yeah, you are very good at selling it.
I'm ready to be a professional wrestler.
I'm keeping what I got.
Oh, Will.
Look.
I know.
You really set the precedent.
I just started beating the shit out of that guy.
Really?
Is he still alive?
No, I broke his neck.
Really?
I did.
Oh, my God.
Austin left the camera.
I saw four bad guys.
Okay.
Right.
And I'm thinking maybe we go in and they're going to try and hit you or something.
Yeah, like that.
Okay.
And then maybe you throw something.
Okay.
I fly over the table.
I like that.
Why didn't you guys wait on?
Oh, Connor.
Hey.
These are really tight.
I promise I'm not going to go anywhere.
Can you just loosen them a little bit?
They're hurting my wrists.
I promise you I'm not going to go anywhere.
Oh, you have the camera on.
Okay, perfect.
Let's roll.
You go first?
Yeah, I got it.
Okay.
Dude, this is so good.
Thank you.
Oh, yeah.
Night, nine.
Here we go.
The big catch.
The only thing I'm disappointed in in this whole thing was I had an epic fight scene right after I throw the cinder block.
Yeah.
All right.
And then I go over and fight.
And they gave me the stuntman who was awesome, by the way.
But he had a torn rotator cuff.
Yeah.
And I kept, I had to twist his shoulder.
But like, I did a thing where he comes in, I block it, right?
Go around his arm, like pull him up, punch him in the gut, and like throw him onto the ground.
It was my best fight scene, and it didn't even make the fuck.
It's the only thing they cut out of the whole thing.
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I mean, you still look good, though.
It's probably because of the camera.
I thought it was.
They got to have the fight.
They got to have it in the camera.
I heard the footage is corrupted.
It's just unusable.
Yeah.
Crazy.
It's not because of you.
You did great.
That's what I heard.
They didn't.
They didn't.
They almost had to send in my stump man.
Usually you have to send in a stump man to like almost get hurt.
They did.
They did do that when he kept hitting the guy in the face.
They did.
They did.
They did think that they had to bring in my stump man to deliver the hits.
Yes.
Austin was a bit more.
But the other stuntman who was being hit in the head was like, no, he's fine.
Yeah.
And that was probably because he was badly concussed.
He was committed to getting the shot.
Yeah, they go to the hospital later.
We're almost done with it.
30.
The brain bleeds.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not a big deal.
Really hot.
That guy's.
I think that guy's dead.
Oh, yeah, he looks dead.
Hold on.
Yeah, he's dead.
But you good.
You look good.
Thank you.
You look good.
Man, we should do this more often.
Yeah, we should.
Where's Caroline?
Hey.
Oh.
Yeah, you took so long, so I just freed myself.
Don't worry about it.
She's okay.
You look great, Carol.
Oh, thanks, dude.
Sorry, dude.
This is check out our workout.
Okay, this is so always sunny in Philadelphia.
That's what you're going for.
So good.
It's so fucking good.
You did great.
How was my acting?
You did your best acting.
You said that.
Amazing.
See, you're shockingly good.
You can't catch when I don't need to deliver a line and I can just improvise.
You play when you act.
Yeah, that's a big part.
I know, but like, if I could star in a movie in which I could improvise every scene where I didn't need to read any lines, then I think I would be fantastic as an actor.
Right?
So just not a movie.
Just give me like a scene.
Like, hey, you're doing this in the scene.
Just do it.
I'd be like, okay, got it.
Done.
Okay.
No, it was a step up and it was a lot of fun.
I mean, I understand where you're coming from, by the way, because I'm also very bad.
You get a little wooden.
Yeah, I get so stiff when I have to say something that someone else has written for me.
It is very difficult for me to deliver it.
I start reading like this all of a sudden.
I just, you know, I enunciate weirdly.
I get very stiff to read lines.
And also, one of the things that make me the most nervous on camera is asking other people questions in an interview.
I hate interviewing people.
It's one of the, I don't hate it.
I get so nervous to do it, which is what made the red carpet at the Glad Awards so nerve-wracking is because asking people questions, actively listening, and then coming up with a question to ask them.
If you're thinking about it in your head, you just got to be present.
I know.
Exactly.
I'm the same way on that as well, where there's so many moving parts that I have to pay attention to, especially when I'm live streaming, where like I can't hyper-focus on just like moving the conversation in a direction where I can get some workable material out of the person that I'm interviewing.
And I also hate that as well.
I'm very bad at that.
I think I try my best, but it's difficult.
Can't relate.
No, yeah, you're very good at all of the things that we just talked about.
I think, what would you, what would be a tip that you would give people?
For which line reads?
Interviewing.
Line reads too, but interviewing.
I think both issues stem from the same place, which is just not being present.
I think a lot of people, when they are acting, they're focusing on get the line right, get the line right, get the line right.
And I think ultimately, unless you are with a director that is like really stringent about his lines, which some are, as long as you get out the idea, which is like what you're talking about, it'll be okay.
So if you're not focused about delivering the lines and just trying to deliver it as you would and put yourself in, you'll always deliver better.
I think people put too much shit in their head when they're trying to act.
They're like, oh, I got to do my Meisner and I got to blah, blah, blah.
Just exist in the moment.
And the same thing with interviewing.
I think like, just have a conversation.
Like, what is interviewing other than just being present with a person and teeing them up?
Yeah, what if you're bad to deliver their personality?
What if you're bad at being a person?
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Yeah.
Well, we're going to learn more about Will Neff's interviewing and also acting techniques behind the paywall at patreon.com slash fear and because that'll be the end of this part of the free episode.
Thank you so much, everybody, for joining us.
Yeah, I'm not a guest.
I'm on the pod with you.
You were thanking me like I was a guy.
No, I'm that's what you were saying.
Thank you, Will, for joining us.
Thank you, Will.
Thank you, Will, for joining us so much.
What's happening?
Thank you for joining us.
This will be Will's last episode.
This is Will Shit.
Cuba has beach.
Yeah, yeah.
Cuba has beach, and we support all Cuban people.
See you on the other side, even the bad ones.
See you on the other side at patreon.com slash fear and peace.
All right, folks.
In the tub with Hassan, May 1st.
Oh, come on.
Thank you, Dave.
Good job.
What?
Your armpits.
It's bad.
The piss are gone.
Don't worry, Will.
You'll get cut out of it anyway.
Pits are so gross.
You think armpits?
I just, I don't.
So, I agree.
That's why I shave it normally.
Don't shave your armpits.
People get mad when I shave my piss.
Don't weird.
Do not shave your armpits.
I don't know what it was.
When I was younger, I thought armpits were the grossest, most disgusting thing on the planet.
And now nothing is worse.
I still think that.
No.
I used to think that, and I still do.
I think armpits are sexy.
I think they're...
I think they're just, I don't know.
Will is reminding me.
It's a reminder of like smell.
We're totally smell.
Will has lost complete hope and faith in us.
Give it a whip.
I smell good.
I just took a shower.
Come on.
You know you want to.
Give it a whip.
I'm gonna stab
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