Hassan and Austin join Mike and Patrick to dissect race, sexuality, and media narratives, recounting Hassan's show-jumping career end and Austin's soccer rejection. They analyze DNC exclusion tactics, the reclamation of slurs by gay communities, and Sinclair Broadcasting's amplification of crime over data. The dialogue explores how right-wing figures like Alex Jones fuel racial tension while callers debate white privilege and oppressive experiences. Ultimately, the episode challenges listeners to confront uncomfortable truths about identity, media bias, and the complex intersections of race and sexuality in modern society. [Automatically generated summary]
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Giving Heads Up00:10:46
Am I supposed to like be like do whatever you want?
Just be yourself, man.
Yeah.
Unrestricted, unshackled.
You tell relationships.
You tell those black people.
You tell those black people what's what?
No, no, no.
We don't have like an intro.
Actually, I guess we do have an intro.
Go ahead, Austin.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another exciting episode of the Fear Ann podcast where we are joined by two fabulous guests from Crash Dummies.
Crash Dummies podcast.
Podcast.
What are their names?
I'm Mike.
Mike and Patrick.
Hassan got his burritos, so we're going to eat these right now.
He doesn't think I did my research.
That's crazy.
It's not much of research.
We're not famous for that.
Hassan's like really good at not being racist.
I've never met anybody who's like on top of, like, he doesn't even indulge.
You can't even get him like one layer of.
Oh, yeah.
What are you talking about?
Are you trying to catch him?
No, he has been.
He's been.
No, one time I purposely did.
He shut it down right now.
Nope.
This is the second day, two days in a row with a burrito.
I'm Turkish.
He's been on the left for so long.
He's just very well trained.
That's good.
The hospitalities from just being Turkish.
Like, I love having people over and opening up my home to people.
When you look at him, did you expect him to be a little racist?
No, you don't.
He doesn't look racist.
Fucked apart.
He looks like the Quakers.
The one whose slaves used to go to their house.
This would be like the most heart-wrenching moment.
Are you a Quaker?
Get your black ass out.
Wrong house.
Yeah.
We play basketball earlier.
Yeah.
Which is why they're late.
Yeah.
Hassan was complaining about it, too, but he made you guys play basketball together.
We didn't want to play that last game, Hassan.
Bro, you didn't want to play because you were getting cooked.
We were getting cooked.
I tried to split it up between Milwaukee and LA.
LA took it this way, but the thing I hate about it is that those courts, it's like y'all know how to play on those courts.
Y'all just throw anything off the backboard that's going in.
That's home court advantage.
We gave it to y'all, though.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm down.
If I ever find myself in Milwaukee, I'll ball over with you guys.
Is he any good?
Yeah, yeah.
He asked his unknowns.
Okay.
Oh, Uncle for sure.
Wait, hold on.
You guys are around the same age and you call him.
He's older, though.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Even you call him Unk.
Yeah, we come from a black household where your uncle could be two years older.
I think Unk is like a mindset.
Okay.
Yeah.
And on the court is a move set.
Yes, definitely a move set.
Like my game winner three-point off the backboard, that's an Unkh move.
Like if you're dropping it off the backboard from range, that's your uncle's status for sure.
And Hassan has like a very stolid face, so it's like, even the bad shots, it's so believable that he thinks it's going to go in.
You play any sports, Austin?
I used to play soccer.
Play soccer?
Yeah, I was a competitive soccer player for a long time.
Not competitive, what do you mean?
Like, I was, you know, I had to make the team.
Okay.
Okay.
And then we traveled.
We traveled a little bit.
I got it.
And I don't tell anybody.
It was the B team, but I still have that messed up.
I didn't play in high school because, well, I tell people I didn't play in high school because I got injured.
Truthfully, I got cut my freshman year.
Oh, man.
And then I just gave up for the rest of the time.
I always wondered about that.
Like, what would it like to be cut?
I don't think I would try again.
Damn, he just flexed on you so nice.
No, no, no.
I didn't look a big enough fill for anybody to get cooked.
It was devastating.
No, no, he was flexing on you.
No, it was devastating.
What's that like to be a fucking person?
Well, I had a loser.
I did have an injury and I couldn't try out.
And I was hoping that they would be like, oh, you played for teams or you had to, you know, get selected.
So I thought that they would just know that I would be good enough.
And they didn't care.
And so they cut me.
And it sucked.
It was devastating.
Changed the trajectory of my life.
What are their names?
Meaning him gay.
I like bashing people.
I don't remember their names.
I blacked out.
I got a fifth grade teacher, Mr. Krieger.
He was a dick.
I'm not going to lie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He changed the trajectory of my life.
Yeah.
Show me racism can come from in many forms.
Really?
What do you do?
He used to like, we used to have like a talent show and he would pick the talent that you had to do.
And mine was like, always to freestyle.
And I'd be like, what the fuck?
You were the like, you were one of the few black kids.
Yeah, it was like, it was like, this is like a two-year span.
I was in like Omaha, Nebraska at the school called Holy Name.
He'll always like try to give me the freestyle or be like, oh, Pat, let's see one of those dance moves.
What the fuck?
What are you talking about?
That's crazy.
I feel like Omaha, Nebraska is so white that it's like they almost exhibit like Chinese style racism.
You know what I'm talking about?
Like being a black guy in China, they're like, oh, you're like an athlete.
It's kind of similar to Turkey.
Like if there's, there's not a lot of black people in Turkey because, you know, the Ottoman Empire didn't participate in chattel slavery.
They only enslaved white people, which was pretty cool, I think.
Anyway.
He hates white people.
Bro, we did the pod.
I did their pod last night, and we're actually going to do a really fun segment that they do on their podcast where they ask a question to their audience.
And the one dude was like, the question was, what's one thing that's wrong with your country?
Wrong or right with your country?
And the one dude said, white people.
So we called him.
And that was the only dude who knew who I was.
Hazan.
The son pioneer.
The other guy was just like, bro, who are you?
Yeah.
Yeah, that dude.
He had 55 followers asking him who you are.
He was like, bro, who are you?
That was a lot of fun.
The segment that we're talking about is on a Crash Dummy's podcast.
If you guys have seen their TikToks, they're massive.
They're blowing up everywhere.
But they ask a question on Instagram live or like on Instagram to their audience and their stories.
And then they just call them in real time, which is what we are going to be doing.
And I wanted to not pollute the queries by pumping it up with my audience.
I didn't want my audience to answer any of your questions.
But do you ever talk to your audience?
Yeah.
Like face to face?
Or even like?
Yeah, I do.
I do it when I'm out and about, when I'm like live streaming.
I do meetups and stuff.
But then beyond that, I do a segment called Chad Vice where I just like give them advice.
We pick them ahead of time.
Yeah.
Also, I will be way too paranoid to be in your position.
I saw you get stream sniped just recently.
Yeah.
Like sitting down and some dude came behind you and said something.
Yeah.
I would just be like, I mean, it was funny, though, because it's like, it's, that rarely ever happens.
I think it's because I'm a big dude.
Like, no one, no one ever.
No, no, no.
It was just some random dude who's like a fan of like some other fucking loser, content creator who like stalks my shit.
Dude, like he said.
And he came up and he was, he just was like, oh, this person made you.
And then walked away, right?
And I didn't even like hear him.
And I was in the middle of like talking about eating my fries.
So I just kept talking about it.
But then Twitter was like, yo, he got owned.
Right.
Someone was like, he got cyberbullied IRL.
And I was like, bro, if you write that, you're a fucking loser.
Like, what do you mean cyberbullied IRL?
It just means bullying.
What's funny is then they found his discord, like where he was like writing in the discord server.
He was like, oh my God, I saw Hassan.
I'm shaking.
Like, what should I say to him?
I'm going to go up to him.
Oh, my God.
And he was like riding that high for like, for like a couple days, apparently.
And we didn't even know.
And then, of course, lo and behold, we look back.
Like, they found his fucking Twitter account.
And he's like calling black dudes monkeys and shit.
Oh, my God.
Classic.
Like, classic immediately.
Old school.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Which is like, expect it.
What if like racists just like, stop saying, like, I'm not racist?
I'm old school.
That's what Tucker Carlson calls that.
He calls it legacy Americans.
Yeah.
Like, cause he can't say Native Americans.
You know what I mean?
So he'll be like, yeah, legacy American.
Wait, that's what he calls Native Legacy American.
No, no, no.
He calls like white people legacy.
Like he had to gentrify that term.
What do you guys?
So obviously, Hassan talks about politics a lot on his stream.
What do you guys usually talk about on the podcast?
Well, we talk about, we have like a dynamic between like the four of us.
And it like, I always tell people it plays out like a dysfunctional family sort of thing.
So we go out through our weeks and then we sit down on Sundays or whatever day we decide to film.
We just talk about it.
And a lot of it is berating me for being gay usually.
Yeah.
You're the gay one.
I'm the gay one.
Oh, you couldn't tell, right?
No, no, I really couldn't tell.
No, he didn't mention it because I thought it was a gay Mormon, but he said it was just a gay man.
No, no, I said a gay guy and a former Mormon.
You had to brief them?
Yeah, because I wanted them to be like, now we have a gay man on the podcast and a Mormon.
Yes, this is why they, this is why they said he's not racist.
Like, I had to give them a briefing ahead of time.
Like, if you hear something, like, if you hear something that's like a little off color, like, they're well-intentioned.
I mean, that would kind of be whiplash if I just started like talking about sucking dick like right in front of you and you had no idea.
No, no, no.
I was assuming that you're like doing like some type of like dark humor bit.
Oh, no, no.
You're not like, I know friends that like joke like that.
And I just like.
No, it wasn't.
I wasn't giving them a heads up because you're gay.
I was giving them a heads up that you're not rating.
Very uncomfortable.
No, I was giving them a heads up to be like, he's not racist, but like he might say some shit that you might find like.
See, I'm just glad we like finally ran into you because it was like, it's hard.
Everybody like walking through.
I'm like, he's gay.
He's gay.
He's gay.
I don't know who's gay.
And then like, you don't know who's gay.
No, I didn't even know.
No, I couldn't tell.
No, you didn't know.
Wow, I'm straight.
He's trying to figure out who to hate crime.
Yeah.
He's like, I can't, I can't tell.
Well, if you want to, you're in a safe space because he hates me.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
I'm a foe.
He's a public enemy number one.
He's an LGBTQ foe.
Manscaped Misunderstanding00:02:32
Yeah.
So he doesn't like it.
No, he doesn't.
I don't like him.
He doesn't fuck with gay.
I don't like him, though.
Oh, damn.
Yeah.
No, this is also a meme in our community.
What's the word that people can't write in your stream?
Emo?
K-E-W, something like that.
K-W.
It's an emote.
It's an Evo.
It's like a laugh.
So you don't have the extension that shows the emotion.
Got it.
So it's like a guy.
It's the guy laughing.
Like the came from.
I was like, what?
He's like a famous Spanish guy.
He recently passed away.
He's like a Spanish comedian and he has like this wonderful laugh.
And it's just a snapshot of that laugh that we use as a substitute for LOL.
Hey, Asan, do you shave your balls?
Absolutely, Austin.
I'm a hairy man, and I don't like to have nothing down there.
That is also how I feel and the way that I prefer you to be.
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Oh, what's that?
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Isn't that gorgeous, Hassan?
It looks amazing.
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It's happened to me a lot.
Oh, yeah.
Before you started using that.
That's right.
I used to use scissors.
Yeah.
Well, what?
Yeah.
I did.
It was dangerous.
That's insane.
It was a bloody mess.
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Do you guys watch Twitch?
Yeah, yeah.
Chicago Squeak Out00:02:31
How did you meet Hassan?
How did you figure out about him?
I hit him up.
Oh, you hit him up.
Yeah, cool.
I really like their podcast.
I saw the golden one on it and I hit him up and I was like, yo, are you guys ever in LA?
Like, what's I thought you guys were in LA?
Actually, I would have never thought you were in fucking Milwaukee.
Everybody thinks that.
Nobody ever thinks that.
That's why it's so weird.
Walking into a Target there and being followed by 17-year-old kids and they finally muster up the energy to be like, you're that guy from a podcast.
I'm just like, bro.
Or you get those looks like I know him from somewhere.
Because obviously, even when you see our clips, it's not really like, hey, I'm Mike.
I'm Pop.
So it's just like, oh, this guy's looking familiar type of stuff.
I've seen you guys somewhere.
I get why people do like the blonde hair thing or like the like try to make their own look because if they want to be no more, I would never do that.
Do you like the attention that you guys get?
You don't like it?
What do you say when people come up to you?
You go, tell them that it's not me.
It's not me.
And I go, what the fuck?
Somebody came up to me.
I was at a gay bar in Chicago.
And I came up.
Yeah, Boys Town.
Yeah.
I was in Boys Town.
Oh.
They got good food there.
I'm not going to lie.
They got good food there.
I'm not going to lie.
It was a breakfast place.
Actually, what would another guy?
He had the whole buffet, dude.
I was in, so I was in Boys Town, and this guy comes up to me and he grabs me.
He goes, oh my God.
Hassan.
Yeah.
He's like, he thought you were me?
Yes.
He's like, oh, my God.
He didn't.
Oh, my God.
Hassan.
He did not think that you were me.
I swear to God.
That's fucking ridiculous.
I swear to God, he looked at me dead in the eye.
How drunk was he?
He even said your middle name.
He was like Hassan Dogen Piker.
He said your full name.
Dogen?
Bro, your name's out there.
Yeah, we told you that.
Dogen.
It's supposed to be his first name.
Yeah.
They know.
I told them about my grandfather last night.
We did a podcast.
We did their podcast.
It's going to come out on Wednesday, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
So I didn't correct him, of course, because you didn't correct him?
No, no, no, no.
I was like, yes, it is me.
This is like one random squeak out there in Chicago thinks I'm like fucking 5'10.
Tell me about his height.
I don't even mean like that.
Are you kidding me?
You know how tall he is because he uses 5'10 as like an insult.
That's bad, right?
How old are you guys?
6'1?
I think 5'9.
No, 5'9.
I was like 5'5, like legit.
Middle Name Mixup00:15:45
That's it, oh, okay.
No, they're big as fuck.
Actually, you there was one, there was one play when we were playing basketball when you drove in, or I think you know, I think I tried to bump you up in a post move and you knocked the wind out of me a little bit.
I was like, damn.
Football stuff, yeah, yeah.
That's like, I mean, you're my, you're my weight, you're 230, you said.
Yeah, yeah, we played at college and like he played like receiver and I played DB like corner at the same exact weight.
What, D1 or D3?
D3.
D3.
Okay.
Low-level guy.
Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
I mean, that pressure is still there.
Yeah.
They didn't play competitive on the B team or whatever the fuck you're talking about.
That's how I met Pat, though.
I know.
I know for one thing is for sure.
Don't let him.
I am definitely more athletic than him by a long shot.
I don't know.
It's not even close.
He's actually sneaky athletic.
No, no, it's we haven't seen him do it.
In one instance, I love saying that about white guys.
Sneaky athletes.
That's the reverse racism everyone's talking about.
Nah, he can play one sport, and that's basketball.
Everything else, he'll blow a hip or a knee or something like that.
I mean, he has been injured at every athletic event that I can throw a baseball better.
Oh, probably for sure.
Actually, can you even throw?
I can't.
I have no mechanics.
We had a football game where we had like a with a bunch of streamers.
I put up like 600 yards.
Oh, you were a quarterback?
Oh, you might have it.
That's right.
Yeah, yeah.
I played no football, no baseball whatsoever.
Bro, I grew up horseback riding.
I was a professional.
We got turkey.
What's the most popular sport there?
It's soccer.
Soccer.
And I hated soccer.
Soccer and hair transplants.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Soccer's the most popular.
Basketball is the second most popular.
And I played basketball, but like my parents made me, they made me do horseback riding.
So I was a show jumper, like a professional equestrian, show jumper.
That's what I did until high school.
And then my horse died.
And I was like, thank God.
Like, it was sad.
But it was also like, thank God I can finally get out of this.
Story went downhill quick.
Yeah.
Damn.
I didn't mean to bum you guys out.
Did you kill your horse?
No.
She didn't die.
She had kidney failure.
That's you have like a backup horse?
No.
I mean, there were, I, the only time I ever competed with someone else's horse was a stallion.
And I think there was like a mare in heat during competition.
So he was like trying to buck me.
Like he, like, he literally, I mean, it was, it was crazy.
He was trying to kick me off.
So he would like.
Oh, that's cool.
But the horse was your pet, right?
Also, well, I guess technically, but it's not like a dog.
You know what I mean?
Because I was saying Mike's comment is like insensitive.
Like, what happened?
He was like, why do you have a backup one?
Like, imagine, hey, bro, my cat died.
What's your backup cat?
Yeah, but I feel like you don't use your cat for a sport.
Yeah.
If you had your cat, if you were like the puppy bowler stuff.
No, you don't, you don't.
You don't have to have a dog, a backup dog.
No, that's their main dog.
No, no, you don't.
You don't normally compete with like other horses unless you have like multiple horses.
I mean, your career.
So when the horse dies, your career dies as a horseback?
No, most people, most people don't have one horse, and they also will get another horse if they want to continue competing.
Yeah.
So I didn't want to watch you.
Why did you have to wait for the horse to die?
Why couldn't you just back right?
Well, because the Dorsets didn't just die instantly.
It looked like it was sick for a little bit, right?
No, but like tarsum.
No, the thing is, like, it's also a fucking investment.
You know what I mean?
It's expensive as shit.
And it's like, there's a stable you have to pay for.
Is a stable hand that like works like, you know, sold it every day.
When's the last time you rode a horse?
I can't anymore.
They won't let me.
Oh, yeah, he'd kill the horse.
He'd let me see.
No, not because of that, bro.
What the fuck?
I didn't kill my horse.
I thought you killed another horse as well.
No, no, they won't let me anymore.
Because back then, yeah, I'm too big now.
Yeah, I hadn't gone.
Yeah, I hadn't gone through my growth spurt.
Like, I think it was like sophomore year of high school, my horse died.
Like, that's right as I was growing a lot.
And then I got a second puberty when I got into college.
I went into college six foot one, got out of college six, four, which is crazy.
You grew in college?
Yeah, I grew college in height.
Yeah, it was awesome.
But basically, or I was like 6'2 by the time I got to college.
But the thing is, once I got over 200 pounds, they were like, You can't ride horse on it.
I didn't know that was a thing.
Yeah.
I guess those guys are always smaller, though.
That's a different sport.
That's true.
You can be like a little bit taller if you're doing like other kinds of horseback riding.
There's like Western, there's Dressage, and then what I was doing is show jumping.
It's obviously better if you're smaller when you're show jumping, but you still have to have like a lot of leg strength because like you're you know, you're manipulated a horse with your legs when you're went we went horseback riding not too long ago.
Not for me.
Yeah, yeah.
So like I love horses though.
Yeah.
I love they're like big dogs.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the scary part though.
Cause we went, it was like eight horses around us.
We actually were horses too in a play too.
Like even dogs.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yes.
I didn't know why.
Why are we dropping that?
Because this is this is sidetracked button.
Nobody, I just want embarrassing people are supposed to bring it out of you.
You're not supposed to volunteer.
Hey, there's an embarrassing moment.
I needed one credit, a theater credit in college, random.
I was like, oh, Pat, Pat was in a play.
Pat was like, hey, Mike, come do this play.
It's going to be good.
It's going to be easy, right?
We get there.
There's five horses.
I'm a horse.
Pat's a horse.
And we're wearing.
Wait, you're the stop, bro.
I thought you were riding the horse for no way.
One of our co-hosts, we co-stars got robed.
He got rode.
Like a dude, it was called Equus.
A dude.
A dude.
Well, that's got to be racist.
Man, we're all minorities, too.
That's got to be racist.
Or black guys.
We had zero lines, and we had to stay there the longest for the play.
That's insane.
So we had like five-hour days.
And we were in gray, leotard, like just tights with a big helmet that looks like a horse and then hooves, like front heels.
Damn.
Yeah.
I've got to show you the picture.
Oh, you have the photo?
Yeah, yeah.
Send it to me and then I'll send it to March or you can airdrop it to him directly.
I was Toto in Wizard of Oz.
You're the dog.
I was the dog.
Yeah.
They had like a week.
Hey, bro, that was like literally like a couple months ago.
That's you just did a play?
I did.
I got cast.
Yeah, unfortunately.
Well, it was he was Dorothy.
I was Dorothy.
In the same play?
Yeah.
I was his dog.
Yeah, we do shit for streaming all the time.
It was like Cutie Cinderella.
Cutie Cinderella.
Our friend who just ditched the Mormon who just ditched this podcast.
She's racist.
She didn't want to be honest with us.
Yeah.
That is so crazy.
Does she not want to?
Oh, man.
That sucks.
She's an ex-Mormon, but sometimes it comes out.
Ex-Mormon.
Is she an ex-Mormon?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that just by like, and that's not like the Quakers?
Like, not at all.
I feel like sometimes when they aren't Mormon anymore, it's because it's like one big thing that they don't agree with, but they still kind of like follow that lifestyle.
No, no, she's not like that.
She's just all the way out.
She bakes still.
I guess, yeah, that's right.
Mormon's baked.
Yeah.
No, she's like, she's like, she has like trad wife qualities for sure, but like, she's not like that at all.
No, she's funny.
She's very Mormon at all.
Oh my gosh.
That is.
Where am I at?
On the right, right there.
That's you.
Oh, was this in high school?
That's crazy.
I was college.
That's crazy.
That's bad.
We did.
Is that guy white?
What was that?
I forgot.
He might have got two white guys.
Who is that?
The other guy is like, is some type of thing?
Adam Salina is the guy all the way on the left.
Oh, I don't know who the other white guy was.
Shout out to him.
I did this for one credit.
One credit.
Was it worth it?
No, it was not worth it.
Five hours a day?
I had to do it.
It was so bad.
It was like, it was the worst.
That's why I was like, I can't trust Pat with anything.
The rule at the school was: if you were a major, if you had a major role in one play, you have to play a minor role in the next play.
And he invited me for the minor role to be a horse.
And I fell during the last days.
Last night, we do like this.
I don't know.
The guy's going crazy.
And he's having like fever dreams.
And it's a dream where all the horses are stumping around.
We were needed.
Nay.
But on the last night.
Wait, so you did.
Okay, that is literally.
Yo, that's got to be racist.
No, no, we definitely were named.
Looking back, it was crazy.
The guy gave us a shit cake, a shit of looking to celebrate.
To celebrate horseshit.
They look like horse shit.
White director.
Shout out to Charlie Krabs.
Charlie Krabs is not racist.
Sometimes unracest people do racist things.
Yeah.
We got white horses.
So the last night he came to us right before the play and he went to all of us.
He was just like, I just feel like you guys could name more and go a little harder.
And like at this point, people have seen us, like our peers have seen us in these costumes.
And you're lucky we're walking out on the stage.
So we're pissed.
Like, bro, we're just talking like, oh, I got something for him.
And like, I don't let stuff go.
So on the last one, we're surrounding him.
We're supposed to nay, nay, go hard.
This is what he's waiting for.
I just start fucking barking at the dog.
He was barking.
He started barking.
Yeah.
I was dying laughing.
So he was dying of laughing.
And he ended up falling because he was laughing so hard.
So we all had, and then he, you know, Mike's like 6'1.
So he stretched.
And our ex is only this big.
Those heels that are on there, you can't stand straight up.
Somebody has to grab you up.
Like, you can't get up on your own.
And we can't help him because we're on still suit.
So I like step over him and I like go and we all just leave the stage.
Yeah, and I like had to like roll like swigging my way off stage.
Don't be conceited.
Was there an audience at this time?
Yeah, this is like the Sunday audience, the community.
Shout out to Sheboygan community.
But our director was definitely in tears.
He's just like, I don't know what happened.
People in the audience said that he was like, you ruined his art project.
This was big.
He was going to make it big.
He might have.
He was actually in the play, too.
He was in the play.
That's what, yeah.
All right.
So speaking of embarrassing moments, can you pull that Harry Daniels TikTok up, March?
Okay, so there's some lore behind this that I haven't told you yet.
Okay, well, let me explain what's going on here.
So I'm at the DNC in Chicago, okay, at the United Center where the Democratic National Convention is happening.
This is the last day of the Democratic National Convention.
And, you know, I said some things.
I said some things non-stop throughout the four-day process.
And they were kind enough to give me a lot of access, a lot more than I thought I was going to get.
And on the fourth day, somehow a piece of that access was revoked unceremoniously out of nowhere.
Right.
And I think it's, well, now I know it's because I was, you know, talking to the uncommitted delegates movement and also demanding that the Democratic National Convention have a Palestinian speaker.
Pretty reasonable demand overall.
But of course, they were, it was a big no-no for them.
So that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
And they just like in the middle of me getting interviewed in front of 60,000 people by a New York Times journalist.
55,000 people.
Okay.
55,000 people.
That's a real plan.
Thank you for keeping me humble.
Thank you for keeping me humble.
So, in the midst of this interview, with a New York Times journalist, they just come up and they're like, You have to clear out right now.
You have to leave this area right now.
And I was like, What the fuck?
Like, what is going on?
So, we pack our stuff up, we pack our remote desktop set up, and I'm like, Can I put it anywhere else?
And they're like, No, they were like, No, sorry, we don't have any space.
Wow, which is crazy because they had like told me that I had that space, and it's like it's not a studio, it's the balcony area of a studio, you know what I mean?
Like, it's not, I'm not like taking up a crazy amount of space there.
Um, so they were like, No, you have to leave, someone else is coming, someone big is coming, which was bullshit.
They didn't clear out anybody else, they just cleared me out with the New York Times journalist in tow, and then told me there was nowhere else I could go.
So, it's a panic setup, and I'm like, Oh, fuck, we just got kicked out.
Like, I just felt like a kid that's done something wrong, you know what I mean?
But you don't know what you did wrong, and the adults are angry at you, and it was really awkward.
So, I'm walking around with my big ass fucking remote desktop set up in tow, my Pelican case, and you know, I'm carrying March's bag.
March is like live streaming this entire process, and all of a sudden, some twink shows up and does this to me.
I got a woman in my mind.
Wait till that looks fired for that time.
Wait, wait, play the fool, yeah.
Okay, so do you guys know who Harry Daniels is?
Was that him?
Yeah, Harry Daniels was the guy singing.
So, his whole thing is he goes up and he does this to celebrities, like politicians.
He'll go up and just start singing to people, and it's like his whole thing, and he's like famous for it.
Yeah, I mean, it's funny, and I kind of knew that it was going to happen at some point, but I thought it was going to be like uh, they were going to schedule it ahead of time.
They they had told me, no, no, no, they told me, like, oh, there's a TikToker named Harry Daniels, like he sings to people, and I seen it.
He like sung to Obama, right?
Like, like that, yeah, I don't believe that.
Yeah, no, he's showing it.
Is he being for real, though?
Yeah, no, he's serious, yeah.
I mean, he's funny, it's like it's funny, it's supposed to be awkward.
Like, I'm supposed to be awkward, right?
No, no, it's supposed to be awkward, like you're supposed to play the straight man in that situation and be like, What the fuck is going on?
Like, that's the whole point.
And I like kind of knew that it was gonna happen, and when it was happening, I was like aware of it, and I was like, kind of leaning into it, but I was also genuinely perplexed at the same time because, like, I had that real like, oh, fuck, what is happening right now?
Like, cause I'm like getting kicked out.
There's a New York Times journalist next to me, and so I'm like, it's like half real, but it's not even about him, you know what I mean?
My face.
So, I met Harry Daniels in the creator lounge beforehand, and I introduced myself.
We chatted, connected, and I told him, I said, You got to get, I mean, he was already going to get Hassan, but I encouraged him to do it.
I said, At any moment you see him, make sure you sing to him.
Yeah, yeah, he just come up as a guy that like might not.
He looked like you know, you might not react, right?
Even make even look at how much swag he had.
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Hold up, bro.
We talked about this last night, even the president, even a moment.
He just made it look like, like, he just made your version look like shit.
That's what I'm saying.
You stood there.
I was like, damn, this is the best way to handle this situation.
Obama, straight smile, lot eyes with the dude.
Starting at group clap.
I have started a group clap.
I have never seen Hassan look more uncomfortable in that position.
What were you thinking in that moment?
In my mind, it doesn't end there.
Look at this.
Oh, Sizza saw me like that.
She said, Lamau, he's so concerned, please.
And it's over.
It's done.
It's so done.
This is like.
People were saying, like, you were going to hate crime.
You look like you were about to use the gay panic defense.
It's just like, I was.
Oh, is he openly gay?
Yes.
That Harry Daniels?
Yes.
Yeah.
Man, you know what?
You cannot.
You know, hold on, hold on.
You know what?
You not identifying me as gay.
Like, I'm no longer thinking I'm in straight passing anymore.
Maybe you just have a terrible gate up.
Our gay guy was definitely down today.
Like, is that you also don't, yo, if you get him started on the Vikings, like, you will.
Oh, no, no, no.
No one blocks him as gay.
I code switch, though.
You do.
So if there was a girl, if there was a girl in the room or another gay guy in the room, you would probably be like, oh, you know what I mean?
We got to bleep that.
What?
Demonetized.
I got the pass.
He can say it.
Do you have that?
Yeah.
I feel like it's the same thing because sometimes I used to when I was saying the F-slur?
No, no, no, no.
That was never really in my vocabulary, though.
But I didn't see it as that bad back then.
I won't claim nor deny what I'm saying.
Somebody finds like a game chat from when I was 10 years old.
No, no, before I was gay, I was saying it.
But it was like before you were gay.
Did you always know you were gay?
Like, I didn't.
Was it third grade?
No.
No, I was.
I was, no, it's like one of those things you look back and you're like, oh, shit, that was weird that I had such a, like, I was like, I didn't, you know, I had like crushes that I look back on.
And I was like, oh, shit, I didn't know how to associate those feelings at the time.
But I thought it was weird.
You know, I look back and I was like, damn, I like made out with somebody when I was 10 years old.
Like, you know, and it was another guy.
And I just moved past it somehow.
And anyway, but.
And you didn't even know, like, I'm not gay in that moment.
I was, I was sleeping with men and telling them that I wasn't gay.
Oh, wow.
That's no denial.
Really in denial.
Yeah.
What year was that?
Like last year?
I was in college.
Oh, okay.
I remember talking to a guy.
He'd be like, Do you ever want to, do you, you know, we could be together?
And I said, I'm not gay.
You ever see that law?
Anybody had that law and order clip of like where Ice T like announces to that guy that he's gay?
Dude, I'm not gay.
I just like sleeping with men.
I was just like, you're gay.
I love that.
That's like one of the best scenes in Law and Order.
I interrupted you about the F-slur.
What were you saying?
Something about that.
No, it's like that pass will be like the same way if I use the N-word with the ER.
I feel like people still look at me crazy, even though, like, oh, I'm the best person to say it.
It's like a word you still shouldn't say.
Oh, yeah, but we don't have a lighter version.
You know what I mean?
Like of the F-slur.
I don't agree.
Like, is better?
No, I feel like that's one of the, I feel like that's one.
I feel like that's the worst one.
But I feel like there's a lot of like other words in between that I've heard from other people.
I also think like when people use that word, I think they're using it to cause drama in a sense.
It's not even like just part.
You know, there's some white people that when they say the n-word, it's like, oh, they're just racist like that.
And that's just like them.
It came out very naturally.
Yeah.
Old school.
But there's something like, I think I've heard like Sneeko or somebody say on his stream or something like that.
Like Sneeko is black.
It sounds forced though, is that what I'm saying?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Even his tweets are his recent tweets.
Yeah, yeah.
But I mean, he's racist as fuck.
But if you look at the statistics of who's saying the F-slur, gay people say it far more than homophobic people.
I would say the N-word too, right?
Yeah, that's true.
But see, it's taking the power back.
Yeah.
Gay people say the hard F like a lot.
Like they'll say it a lot.
There was a moment recently that's ironic homophobia.
I mean, I do it too.
He says you say the F-slur.
No, ironically.
Oh, okay.
There was a moment.
He said the F-slur only to him.
Yeah.
He loves doing that.
I let it happen because it turns me on.
I'm just kidding.
He's not my type.
He knows that.
He knows that.
That's such a lie, right?
He knows that.
I am.
Your spiritual top.
Yeah, so that I don't know what that's for.
Yeah, he's not.
To say he knows that is so crazy.
He knows I've got to have that conversation.
It's not even me.
He said the internet wants us to be together really badly.
The internet said it because he posted a TikTok from one of our latest episodes where he's drinking a latte.
Here, just show him the show him the TikTok.
It was a banger.
Before we show the TikTok, there was a moment recently where tell him how I'm not your spiritual homophobes and gay people united when the Pope kept saying the F-slur.
Like, you know, the Pope.
Yeah, the Pope.
The Pope, but he didn't even just say the F-slur.
He said it in a way that, like, I think only gay people or like people who are within proximity of gay people would say it.
Yeah.
Did he say it in English?
Or in his Italian version of it?
That's what he said.
Just like a proper.
Which is like, I'm so sorry, Marsh.
We're going to have to bleep a lot.
Like a homophobic person would not say that.
Yeah, exactly.
So homophobes are like, yeah, he needs to keep saying it.
And gay people were like, yeah, he needs to keep saying it.
And it was like a moment that we all came together.
Wow.
I don't know.
Like, man.
I'll wait to talk about this.
This is why.
This is why I'm spiritual top.
This was last week.
And I was always terrible at it.
And in this recurring dream, I'm back in high school and I have missed an entire semester of a class that I didn't write down.
And I go into the last day and I failed that class.
I have the same recurring dream.
What?
Really?
That was so crazy.
Yeah.
And then I like almost don't graduate and it's like really stressful.
Doing packets like the day before to try to graduate.
Okay, I'm shipping y'all.
Bro, he's like a baby.
He was drinking the creamer and he's like, it tastes like teasworms.
Yeah, he was drinking straight cream.
I mean, look, here's the deal.
The thing is, is if we were together, which would never happen because I'd never be into that.
But.
Oh, yeah.
It's not because I'm not gay.
It's because you wouldn't be.
I didn't even think about that part.
Yeah, I do.
I'll say it.
You don't want to like, you know, mix work with.
That's why.
I would certainly be the top.
I mean, there's no.
Okay.
I don't want to ask this question.
Yeah, no.
But like, is there a discussion?
Like, yo.
Oh, like, like, before you.
I mean, okay, so there are stereotypes within the gay community.
Like, this person looks like a top.
This person looks like a bottom.
I may get grilled for this, but a lot of times it is true.
However, like, if somebody's like, you can tell usually who is who and what is what.
But I'll stay right there on that.
But like, but, but there are, there's always exceptions to the rule.
Like, if you were to look at Hassan, right, you would probably think if he was a gay man, he would be a top.
I would, but okay.
You wouldn't.
Oh, okay.
I wouldn't.
I would not.
Oh, you wouldn't think he is.
No, would you think he is?
No, because he's actually talking to mind.
He wouldn't assume that he's not.
Oh, bro.
He's doing the, I don't see color, but for gay men.
Yeah.
He is.
I've known he's gay for like the last like hour now, right?
And I haven't really thought about what positions he.
Yeah, he's woke.
He's so woke.
That's so dude.
That's so powerful.
I don't see color, man.
You don't see that.
Normal people.
Sorry, normal people are not going to look at a dude and be like, how are they having sex?
Like, that'd be weird.
Hassan is not, it doesn't look like a top.
No, he doesn't look like a top, but he very, I mean, he looks like a top.
Oh, he doesn't look like a top.
He looks like that.
That's what people would assume.
So he would look like Hassan.
I mean, it could, yeah, most likely.
But there's exceptions to the rule.
Like, he could be a bottom too.
You know?
Anyway.
He's getting uncomfortable.
But I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is this?
Yo, chill, bro.
Chill.
It's so funny because, like, when you're the gay guy in this scenario, you're just like.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't give a fuck about all of that at all.
No, he does.
He does.
It's funny, though, because like the Andrew Tate style, like, there's a lot of like red pill guys out there in the podcast sphere and shit.
You got like the Sneekos, you got like Fresh and Fit, you know, and they're still going.
I don't think so.
I don't fucking know.
Yeah.
But they're like, yeah, Mike's like, oh, yeah, they are.
I'm a tier three subscriber.
Say swear you didn't watch Fresh and Fit.
I've seen their stuff.
Yes, you watched it for a little bit.
I never watched a full podcast.
I used to see it.
Oh, my God.
And you would watch it all the way through.
Maybe you hit a watch.
I watch a lot of stuff that I disagree with sometimes because I like to see the irony in a lot of the stuff they talk about, especially who's the fresh guy, right?
There's a lot of stuff that they talk about that they still do.
So it's always funny.
So you watch stuff that you're really not into.
So do you watch gay porn?
No, I've never seen it.
You've never seen it?
You've never seen gay porn?
You've never been there, like, what does it look like?
No, no, no, I haven't.
No, I would say I would never, I wouldn't.
But now you asked the question.
I remember the first time I saw like dude on dude action.
It was True Blood.
What?
Yeah, it was True Blood.
Oh, okay.
Where Alexander Skarsgaard just fucking just piping a dude straight butt fucking.
And I was like, whoa, that's like, this is like, I'm not supposed to see this.
Like, what the fuck's going on?
How did you feel?
You're not supposed to see it.
You know what?
It's like kind of awkward, but I mean, I was like a teenager.
Ah, not the right.
And at that moment, I was like, no, no, it wasn't.
Yeah, I wasn't in third grade.
I don't remember exactly how old I was, but like, I was, I was past PBDP.
I was like, I was like, in my mind, I was like, damn, this didn't do anything for me.
And then I did have a little bit of like relief where I was like, oh, I guess I'm not gay.
People don't even talk about that.
I think people are too afraid to talk about it.
Like the moment they found out 100% sure that they're not into men, if they like claim to be like this macho heterosexual.
Because if you're this macho heterosexual person and you're comfortable in your sexuality, you had to have that moment where you're like, I saw this and I'm not into that.
So you don't think.
So you may, if you haven't seen it, then maybe you're not so sure.
I honestly believe that.
Okay, but you believe that.
So if you haven't, you need there needs to be like a mass like gay porn, like spread of gay porn to masculine straight men to test.
Every once in a while, when you scroll and you're looking for it, everyone has to.
Yeah, everyone has to see.
I feel like that's why like Pornhub is just like, hey, yeah.
I know you never clicked on this, but look.
Related videos.
Yes.
They need to develop a TikTok style algorithm.
Yeah.
Like, you know, because sometimes in TikTok, I want to show up a porn hub with like TikTok.
Could you know?
Wouldn't that be good though?
That's revolutionary.
We need to develop that category you want to avoid.
TikTok is like really good at seeing when you go back to videos because if you scroll past a video and go back to that video, TikTok remembers that it knows it.
And just like that.
So it's like, that's how people, hey, I know you didn't watch it for a long time, but you went back to the video.
I tell you what is the gateway to gay.
Okay.
For me, gay porn was the threesomes with two men.
I feel like I feel like I might have seen a gay because I think it was a threesome.
Yeah, listen, listen.
Oh, listen, Yeah.
This is what happened.
This is what happens.
Let's go.
Let's get into the threesome.
Exactly how this happened.
This is a threesome.
Two dudes.
Yes.
One girl, right?
Yes.
I don't know how I got here.
No, this is how it happened for me.
But then, then I started seeing the dudes were getting really close to each other.
I was like, whoa, this is not a gang.
Yeah, this is like a, so I thought it was a gang bang is what I thought.
No, no, that was a threesome.
That was like an all-participation.
No, that's what happened to me.
My introduction, I was younger was the scene started as like a guy having a girl and doggy.
And I was just like, oh, that's nice.
And then like the girl got up and she had like a seven-inch cock.
I was like, fuck.
That's the other gateway.
A lot of people, a lot of people like that.
And then they get like scared about the fact that they like it.
And then they become like really transphobic where they're like, oh, I fucking hate trans people.
Like they all, most transphobes are also what is known as chasers, where they just like seek that out.
And it's like, who cares?
If you like that, you like that.
Just don't be fucking weird about it.
So that's what I mean.
Like, don't be worried about it.
Don't be weird about trans people.
Like Alex Jones, like there was a moment where Alex Jones hates trans people, obviously.
And there was a moment where he was like, there's this like top-down image.
And he like opens up his phone and you can see in the tabs where he's like looking up trans porn on the side.
My friend Zach is up.
Oh, all right.
That's that's another way that we know Hassan's not racist.
Yeah.
I told him that our friend told him he's like the uh they call him the Steph Curry, Sudanese stuff.
And he like would not repeat it.
He's like, he's like, so Steph Curry?
I was like, no, I said the first blocker show.
He didn't say that until they like complained that he was how do you differentiate between media trained and not racist?
You could just tell by you could just tell by like someone's demeanor of like when they're in like a racist position how like calm they are just like nah I'm good.
Oh so if they, if they get uncomfortable yeah, when they like you gotta watch those people that like don't want any racism, racist jokes around them and just like no, that's wrong okay no no, that's the other thing.
Like obviously, look one of my, one of my really close friends, Nigerian like we, of course we do get, we do get racist with one another regularly, but like that's different.
I just met you guys.
You know what I mean.
I don't you don't know, but just my, so you just told them more time.
But you know what it is like when you're, when you're like really close friends with someone, like of course You make jokes about everything, right?
But like, uh, when you're when you're just meeting someone, I'm like, I'm not gonna fucking, I'm not gonna be like crazy, you know?
But there's like, I feel like there's also a comfort, you're right.
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Like, there you go.
I'm not like, I try to explain this to people because, like, I have a very woke community, right?
But it's like predominantly like white guys who are younger.
And there is this like liberal side to it as well that I've noticed where like there's still an otherization of black people.
Um, when liberals try to like talk to black people, there was like a really good Michael Che bit about it where he gets on an elevator and someone goes, and uh, someone goes, I'm really sorry.
And he's like, What?
It's like, you know, all the police brutality.
Like, that's like, that's weird.
Like, you don't just treat everybody like you would treat everybody else.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's my principle.
I don't like differentiate.
Like, I'm not going to be different to you because you're black.
Whether it be like being forwardly woke, you know what I mean?
Like, that's odd.
You're walking by your co-worker's cubicle.
He has like Zimmerman on the screen.
He just said, man, fuck that guy, right?
Fuck Zimmerman, right?
What is Zimmerman doing these days?
Bro, he went on a he, I don't know what he's doing now, but there was a while where he would straight up, like, I mean, really gross shit, but like, he would, like, he'd be doing like signings of the Confederate flag.
He would sign like Skittles bags and shit.
Damn.
And he, like, tried to sell his gun, I think, too.
Like, it was really fucked up.
And then people try to say, like, racism is not real.
It's like, come on, bro.
Like, fuck.
Yeah, why do you like George Zimmerman then?
You know, those dudes are like, didn't he, like, he made, like, he made Belle, Kyle Rittenhouse made Bell off like donations.
Oh, yeah.
Immediately.
Like, immediately.
Like, immediately.
They broke records.
Yeah.
He tried to recently tried to endorse a different candidate or like say he wasn't voting for Trump.
And they bullied him into voting Zimmerman.
No, no, no, not Renhaus.
Rinhouse came out and was like, Donald Trump is not like pro-Second Amendment enough for me.
So I'm not going to vote for him.
And in a span of like 12 hours, everybody on the Republican side was like, you know, he's actually secretly trans.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They immediately were like, that's a woman, actually.
Yeah, there's this pipeline on the Republican Party that if they like don't like you, eventually you like morph into being trans.
Yeah, they were doing that to Andrew Tate too.
Yeah, they've transvestigated him.
Yeah.
They thought he was trade.
But how do they do that?
When did they start digging though?
How do you investigate?
That's it.
That's the point.
Yeah, that's what it's called.
That's the word.
So when you, when you investigate whether somebody's trans, it's called transvestitive.
I feel like someone.
So what's the who was the big case that got this started?
I feel like there has to be someone that's been transvestigated and like they be like people found that out.
No, no, no.
The OG one is obviously super racist.
Black women get it a lot, but like Michelle Obama.
Yeah, that's yeah, that's like the OG.
Yeah.
This is before like this became even more mainstream, even though that was the most mainstream version of it where people would just be like, she's a man.
But lately, because like transphobia has become super commonplace, especially in like right-wing circles, they just kind of do it to everybody now.
And when you get to that stage of like, when you get to that stage of brain rot where you're like constantly thinking about trans people and you're like, what are they doing?
Like they're in the shadows.
They're, they're, they're always scheming.
And you just start assuming that like everyone might be trans secretly.
And it's just like there's some trans agenda.
Yeah.
You watch something like the Game of Thrones and just like, they've been, people have been gay from the beginning.
Yeah, I mean, that's true.
They've been gay.
People have been gay as fuck for a long time.
It'd be like people that ruled over like the Romans, the Greeks, and all they like is men.
And the only reason they had babies is because they had to.
Yeah.
There's been, yeah, there's been trans people throughout history, gay people throughout history.
It's whatever.
People make a big deal out of it.
I don't really give a shit.
It's our news cycle.
Yeah.
Like everything.
Like, I did the worst thing ever.
First of all, do not watch your local news.
Oh, yeah.
Because you'll see like a crime in a spot that you thought a crime could never happen.
And it'll just make you like, oh, this guy got robbed at the ATM that you use every single day.
Yeah.
Like, bro.
It's terrifying.
That guy also had his credit card out and he's just drunk as hell.
So they like don't tell you about like some of these crimes and just be like, oh, these guys, like, oh, this guy randomly got shot.
No, it was a roll rage.
Yeah, yeah.
Taught him a bunch of slurs.
Yeah, they don't give context.
It's just like the all the plane shit that was happening.
All the plane crashes and stuff.
Or the Boeing.
Remember the Boeings?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
They were trying to avoid like, wasn't that 737?
Yeah, they were every the news was reporting every fucking thing.
If it had B in front of it, they would report it.
And it was just, yeah, I'm a plane nerd, so I'm not going to get it.
So that's the thing, though.
Like, obviously, crime is a constant thing, especially if you live in like a big city, right?
But when you hyper-focus on it, people tend to think like it's happening a lot more frequently than it actually is.
So you got to go back to the data to look at it and be like, what is the crime rate looking like right now?
So for the past couple of years, like Republicans really beefed up that narrative up.
Local news really participated in this process because Sinclair Broadcasting bought out all the local news channels.
So they're all owned and operated by like a right-wing guy for the like a right-wing company for the most part.
So they would always be like, anytime there was like any kind of theft, they'd be like, organized retail theft is happening.
And I'm sure you've seen like the videos of like, you know, 50 dudes like running into a Gucci store and just like grabbing everything.
I always want to be a part of that.
Yeah.
I feel like somewhere in the middle, like let 13 people go ahead, you know, 14th, 15th.
You act like you're a scared customer at first just to get their eyes clean off.
Oh no.
I thought everyone was doing it.
I was checking out.
But it's like, but they greatly hyper-focused on it and they were acting like, you know, if you've ever worked in retail, you know, there's a concept called shrink and it's baked into their profit margins.
Like they know that theft is going to happen.
And outside theft is like a minor part of it.
But the overall shrink is it comes from like multiple different sources.
It comes from people stealing shit.
It comes from employees and staff stealing shit.
And it comes from, and this is the largest chunk usually, like logistic problems, like food going bad and things like that and just not being sold.
And they were like, oh, it's, you know, billions of dollars of shrink, which is literally the case.
Like that's always happening, right?
And the real, the real areas where shrink actually is happening a lot is actually self-checkout because these guys don't want to pay for cashiers, right?
Because I used to do that too, though.
I'm like, I've stolen a few things for you.
I definitely put organic apples.
I've definitely put regular apples for organic apples.
Yeah, me too.
I've just covered over here.
But no, but like everybody does that.
And companies know that everybody does that, but that's a substitute that they're willing to make because it's still much cheaper for them in the long run to not hire another person, pay their medical bills, all this shit.
He's always been pro-theft.
Yeah, I recently.
You, Robin Hood.
Yeah, no.
So, but so I've, I've, I've, I've stolen a few things right now.
We don't steal from like small businesses or whatever.
Like, I only steal from like corporations.
Um, like, I, I, I, I, I've, I've, I've on accident stolen like a bottle of water because I'm on the phone.
I'm like, oh, fuck.
And I just end up walking out with it.
I never stole anything.
I actually don't steal myself.
Like, I stopped when I was younger.
Pro-Theft Philosophy00:15:43
I did.
And then, you know, I've talked about this before, so I'm not going to dive back into it.
But, like, it was so like it was so nerve-wracking when I faced my father who knew I had stolen something that I was like, I'm never doing this again.
I never want to feel like this again.
So, I stopped.
I haven't stolen anything ever.
Every time I do it, though, I text him.
Like, he like, like, I'm like, I text him, like, Hassan, you'll never guess what I did.
And he never responds the way I want him to.
Like, I want to be like, I'm so proud of you.
This would be like the biggest, like, easiest open closed case ever.
Hey, did you steal it?
Let me see your phone.
Yeah, yeah.
Text message to your best friend.
No, but I got it.
Like, if they came up to me and they're like, hey, did you, you didn't pay for this?
I'd be like, oh, my gosh.
I'm so sorry.
You always have to act surprised.
What?
Really?
That's crazy.
I don't know if I get away with that.
You wouldn't.
You wouldn't get away with it.
Get your black ass.
Oh, my God.
Just a four-pack of dirt.
All right.
So now I think we should get to the yeah, we should get to the questions.
Okay.
And then we'll do some of them here and then we'll do some of them behind the paywall.
Yeah.
Okay, perfect.
So we call people.
That's awesome.
No, no, it's fine.
We can go a little bit over.
We'll do two.
And this will be a good teaser.
So here's what we're doing, guys.
This is a segment that they do on the Crash Dummies podcast where they ask a question to their audience on the Crash Dummies Instagram and they both control it.
And today's question is: Did you guys do mine?
So we have the question today: what's something you want to teach white people?
Yeah.
And another one is, what's a guilty pleasure you have?
Okay.
I know it may not look like it to you guys, but I'm a Lebanese American.
Oh my God.
You're Lebanese for real?
Yeah.
Lebanese gay.
Yeah, you wouldn't even know.
Yeah.
You wouldn't even know.
I'm making a lesbian joke.
He's making a lesbian joke.
He had that in a chamber.
No, I don't think he did that on purpose.
No.
What happened?
No, I thought you were saying like lesbian and gay.
No, no, I just met Lebanese and gay.
No, he meant lesbian.
He's like, Lebanese excitement.
Lebanese anger.
I'm like a struggle.
That woke.
I was very normal.
To say you're woke.
You're like, Mike's a little bit on the right.
I got that vibe for sure.
When we like, when we weren't.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So shut the fuck up.
Get to these callers.
But like, we go to establishments that like aren't up to par.
Like, he gets like, if it's a small black business, oh my god.
And we know he doesn't tip.
And Philadelphia.
He does not tip well.
He does not.
He does not.
I will say he tips better than your average person, but for the money he makes, he does not tip.
Does he tip less at black establishments?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Messed up.
Sometimes he balls up the money and it'll like unfold it yourself.
This is the other thing that I wanted to talk about.
We didn't even get into like ADOS drama because he's Nigerian, but this is not the right medium to get into that.
I don't even know what ADOS is.
Neither do I. What is that?
Adobe?
African descendant of slaves.
Oh, shit.
Tariq Nasheed.
Oh, I know Tariq Nasheed.
Yeah.
There was like, I mean, it's not, it's not as prominent anymore.
I don't know what Lady Gaga looks like.
So tell me about this segment.
So you guys actually call people.
Yes, this is what I'm doing.
Straight up.
So the prompt is what you want white people to know.
Yes.
For this first one.
Do you think there's anything called that one?
So I'll say, call it the next one.
Gotcha.
Are there like white people?
Are these white people?
No, but white, black.
Okay.
We have like super diverse.
Yeah.
I just think it'd be weird for like a white person to you call a white person to say what you think white people should.
We have bisexual correspondence, gay correspondence.
We do have bisexual correspondence.
We call him and then we like when someone's like on the borderline of like, I did this thing.
And then we're just like, oh, we think you're gay.
He's like, but we can't call it.
We call him.
Yeah.
He'd be like, yeah, that guy's gay.
That's all.
Hey, if you ever need somebody, you can always call me.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You can always call me.
If you need, if you, if somebody's on the fence and they're in denial, I will.
The other guy's unreliable.
Yeah.
Because sometimes we call him.
He's not gay anymore.
He's just like, oh, I'm done.
That's why he does.
He did say that, though.
He's a formal bisexual.
No, I'm committed.
I've made a lifelong commitment.
No, he's homosexual as fuck.
Oh, I, there's like, you could tell me.
The only time you can get away with it.
You can't tell.
You could ban me from sleeping with women for the rest of my life, which I've done for myself.
Yeah.
I'd be a happy man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Lady Gaga.
Yeah, that's loud as hell.
Hello.
Welcome to Crash Hummies Podcast.
Well, it's not Crash Only's.
Well, yeah, Crash Emmy's Fear and Collab.
Fear and collaboration.
Yes.
Hi.
If I said the first thing first, she was like, What the fuck?
That's true.
That's true.
Welcome.
Thank you.
Sorry.
I don't know.
All right.
No, you're good.
You're good.
We have a question for you.
We have some white people in the room.
So just.
Well, white passing people.
White passing people.
No, no, we're white.
We got some white people.
We're white.
We're white.
All right.
What's something you want to teach white people to say excuse me?
They it's like whenever you're in the grocery store or something or someplace with like crowds.
I guess that's not fair, but they just don't know how to say excuse me.
For example, like I was at a store one time and I was waiting for something and this lady came and moved my basket because she's trying to reach something.
I didn't see her.
I was like, bitch, say excuse me.
We don't like it.
No.
That's, I agree with you, bitch.
Say excuse me.
I have, I also hate those white people.
Like those white people, I would call her a bitch too.
Did you call her a bitch to her face?
No, I just give her a weird look.
Okay.
So she could have said, excuse me.
She deserves it.
Yeah, no.
How old is she?
She had to be like, well, you know, some white people be looking like 50, but they're really 16.
I don't know.
I don't think that's a fair question.
Well, she was rude to you.
You can unload.
What part of the country was this in?
In Oklahoma.
Oh, I'd be quiet if I was you.
I've been to Oklahoma.
It's hostile territory.
I'd be quiet if I was you.
Just be safe.
Yeah.
All right.
Appreciate you coming on.
Thank you so much.
We got your back.
They might cook her.
Why did I know why I got offended in the beginning?
I was like, wait, I say excuse me all the time.
I'm overly polite.
I think too.
I say sorry.
Yeah.
When they're like, yeah, that's for me, too.
Yo.
Yo.
What's going on, bro?
You know, chilling, chilling.
Vibes?
How you doing, man?
Yo, how y'all doing, man?
Yo.
What's going on?
Yo, yo, y'all don't know how long I've been trying to get on here, bro.
Oh, my God.
Stop glazing.
Just answer the question.
We got a question for you.
What's something you want to teach white people, bro?
Don't you know?
Don't you know how when y'all be walking past walking past white people, it could be it could be any age.
I didn't seen the youngest, the youngest white kids do it to the old people.
They just do that weird-ass, creepy ass smile, and it didn't bug you.
Okay, so uh, my name is Austin.
We got a we got a white correspondent here.
Yeah, representing the white community.
Um, that almost that doesn't maybe I should bro.
Just let him let him cook.
Go ahead, let him cook.
He was cooking.
Go ahead.
He was also like an intro to like a clam meeting.
Horse up.
So they, so white people, white people look at you and then they give you like a creepy smile.
Right.
Does it does it feel hostile?
No, it don't feel hostile.
It's just like y'all faking it.
Like, I'm not even smiling back.
Yeah.
Wait, do you see that?
It's like this smile.
That wait, that's fucking all the time.
I get it all the time.
It's that thing.
But it's like we don't see y'all do it to each other.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not at all.
It's like stop getting defensive.
No, I'm like, let him say, let him talk.
I am.
Stop white splining it to me.
I did not realize this was going to come out of him.
But it's messed up because then he gets a bat rap for someone who actually doesn't fuck with the black person.
It's just like, and then you're trying to be polite and go.
And then he just seen two back-to-back white people do it to him.
And he's just like, fuck both of y'all.
That's the real racism.
Yeah.
So, so, what's your final message to people like that?
Stop.
All right, bro.
All right, yeah.
I love y'all, man.
Y'all my biggest.
He loves us, man.
You want to do another one?
Yeah, we're doing multiple.
We got so many people queued up.
No, no, I know.
I'm saying, like, but we'll, we'll, because we're at like an hour, so we're going to cut it into the transition into the paywall person.
Oh, yeah, yeah, whenever y'all want, but let's do another one.
Let's go.
Do one more, folks.
What do you think?
These are, these are good enough.
Yeah, yeah, this is good.
Am I supposed to be like, be like, do whatever you want?
Just be yourself, man.
Yeah, unrestricted, unshackled.
You tell those black people.
You tell those black people what's what?
No, no, no.
That shit is hilarious.
You tell them.
You defend the white race.
Okay.
Please don't.
Please, please do.
You should just keep making this case.
He didn't even mean to be like that.
He just.
Maybe the song was out of him.
Hold on.
I'm Lebanese.
Didn't feel like it when you were answering some of those questions.
Arnett.
Yeah.
Arnett.
What a name.
Arnett is crazy.
I call myself AR or something.
Yo, hello.
Yo, yo.
Yo, Pat and Mike.
How y'all doing?
And the son in Austin.
Hello.
Oh, hey, how you doing, bro?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
The cold switching is crazy.
Let's ask this face question already.
What's something you want to teach white people?
All right, oppression.
That is the biggest thing ever.
Um, even teaching black people, black people have like a very mild representation of oppression, and white people have no idea what the it is.
And I've been on a swim team.
I'm gonna be real, I've been on the swim team.
Um, so I've been around like white people all my life, like even the cold switch.
I just did.
Uh, I've had to do it.
Are you too proud of yourself?
You like the colours a little bit too?
Nah, you gotta master that shit.
That's real.
You have to master that shit.
Like, I had a white coach, dude.
There's some cool white people out, but cool white people out there, but what is your point right now?
It's not oppression.
That's why I talk about swim team.
Hey, the whole, the whole point, the whole point is basically like oppression, right?
So if you tell a white person, right?
Um, like they don't understand like how black people are to sit on the way they are.
Like at college, right?
Oh, they're like, dude, why are black people so mad that people use the n-word?
What the fuck do you mean?
Like, he's sitting there asking me why.
Hold on.
Someone asked you this.
Someone personally asked you this.
Oh, yeah.
They used your soft as fuck.
There was no way.
You made coaches too hard, bro.
Oh, no.
It was an Indian dude.
It was an Indian dude.
We caught the dude.
We caught his ass saying the N-word in a music video.
Or he, no, it was crazy as fuck.
They were in the dorms.
He was up there.
They got this nigga on video in 4K.
He's saying, yeah, yeah, nigga.
In the rap.
Then they tried to extort this.
I'm like, I didn't even realize.
I didn't even realize that they caught that nigga in 4K until they pulled him out to the side.
He pulled out his wallet trying to take out some money.
I'm like, yo, what's happening?
I'm like, what y'all doing?
They sold me the video.
He said, take money.
They started this.
They said, hey, if you don't want us to post this, give us the money.
I'm like, you on your own, bucko.
Fuck that.
I don't think you explained anything at all.
You feel great, though.
You said the word oppression and then said how you hate the white people in your life.
And then he swapped it to Indian people.
I don't hate them.
I don't hate them.
You just have to like, it's very hard to find people who understand just being black, bro.
That's that's really it.
Like just being black.
You can't teach being black.
And the part of that is oppression.
So I appreciate you, bro.
I really appreciate you.
I appreciate y'all too.
It made me feel very, very smart.
Whatever brain cells going on, she won't.
I know I ain't teach y'all shit, bro.
I don't think you can articulate yourself what you like talking about.
One more time.
What do you really mean?
All right.
All right.
So you want me to be like straight up, just go from like, go there.
Yes.
All right.
Wait, this is like when someone's hooping in their office, you're like, okay, I'm about to turn up.
It's my turn now, bro.
I'm just there.
All right.
So, okay.
So baseline is oppression, right?
You can't teach somebody who has not lived.
Okay, let's say, all right.
You go to a school, right?
A predominantly black school.
They don't teach y'all shit.
They don't underfund y'all niggas.
And that's where you come from.
That is your neighborhood.
That's where you lived your whole life.
You can't tell a white person that's lived in a nice neighborhood who's always been provided that there's different oppression level and there's different racial issues.
That's that's baseline that they're not gonna understand unless you've been through it.
You're not gonna understand it.
So when they talk to you differently, when they like look at you differently, when they address you differently, even the way they talk, they don't even understand that shit sometimes.
Oppression Baseline00:05:26
And that's the worst part.
When you're ignorant, I feel like being ignorant is worse than being racist.
That's real.
No, I get where he's coming from.
It's a very dumb place, but I get it.
No, I get like some of your, I just don't think you're articulating it right, but I do get some of your ideas.
Because sometimes you have those people, like, there's always going to be racist people.
He just nodded like he understood because I didn't understand shit.
I get what he's saying.
I think it's clear as that.
But I'm sitting my white ass down and I'm listening.
I feel like there's always going to be racist people.
The people that suck are the people that try to say, oh, I don't see it.
I don't think it exists.
Yeah, that's like that wall.
Oh, no.
That's like defending the people that's racist.
Racism is crazy.
Huh?
Oh, I thought he was going to say racism.
Racism is crazy as fuck.
Yeah.
No, I agreed.
All right, bro.
Thank you.
I see no color either.
Thank you, sir.
I'm purple.
That's great.
This is this.
I want this to be on your.
I want to save this one for you.
Okay.
Hey, ladies and gentlemen.
Oh, oh, okay.
We got one.
I think this is going to be the best one.
Yo.
Yo, yo, you're just going to get right till we got a question because we got to go.
All right.
All right.
What's the guilty pleasure you have?
The guilty pleasure I have, bruh.
I love giving.
I say my booty hole, my booty hole hands, but it really be my balls.
Like, I love giving my balls, like twisting them up and giving them braids and like some like locks and stuff like that.
Like, yeah, I just wanted that to be on your balls.
You did not hang up on him after.
I want to know how to do it.
He started talking about his asshole and then he went to his balls.
What happened?
He likes his boots.
He likes his balls get squashed.
So sorry, we lost.
We dropped the call.
Go ahead.
I said, I said, I like whenever I twist up.
Like, you know how your balls got like hair on them, like pupa ears.
I normally like twist them up like I got some locks.
And like, I ain't gonna lie, but by like five months now, I done had some wicks on, you know what I'm saying, on the back ass, bro.
Hey, I keep the, I keep it, I keep the top part bald.
You know what I'm saying?
That's how I'm saying, like, look, you remember Lil Bill?
I know y'all some old niggas.
I know y'all remember Lil Bill, bro.
I keep the top part bald.
I got a bald face, like, to the ground, bro.
Like a straight one.
Like a straight one all around.
But then when I get to the bottom, Abraham Lincoln.
No, he got.
Genitalia looks like Stevie Wonder's head, right?
Bald at the top and drained that's at the bottom.
Hey, you know how on like BMF?
Like they, like, uh, what's her name?
She got the little rat tail.
Yeah.
That's what it looked like, bro.
It looked like, I'm about to think you could just combine them all and just have one consecutive rat tail, bro.
I'm going to call it the music.
Do you do this yourself?
Yeah.
My girlfriend, we talked about something.
I feel like it has to be.
Wait longer.
You're going to need to.
Are you in a relationship at all?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
And what does your girl guy think about this?
Oh, she love it, bro.
She be like twirling around her fingers and stuff like that.
So tall, it just depends, you know what I'm saying?
That is.
Is this on what occasion would you do this?
Is this just like a casual evening activity?
How does it, how do you get into it?
Hello?
I mean, it just, it just happened one day.
And I mean, you know, occasionally sometimes she'd be like, you need to cut it.
But then after a while, you know, after it started getting longer and longer, she was like, oh, that's snooze.
All right.
I just want to do some like minor investigation here because I'm not just going to let you slide.
Okay.
From the looks of it, like.
Wait, he sent you a photo of it?
No, no, no.
From his IG.
Like, let me see.
Let me see.
He's like a bigger dude.
Like a football player, so what I'm saying is like he can't do this standing up.
So at some point, he has to like lay on the bed on his back with his legs propped up and like kind of like braided that way.
I need to see him.
He said, No, give me, give me the phone.
It's not even like that, bro.
You just put your leg up on the toilet and you just get busy.
You do a standing up?
There's no way he does.
I mean, he's a, he's, he's athletic, though.
He's not like, you can, he's not like fat.
But even, even standing up, he'd have to bend over.
Bro, he's bare, by the way.
Is that that's him?
The Shirla's one, yeah.
He's bro, you don't even have any body hair.
What the fuck?
Are you?
Are you are you jealous that I don't have no like no hairy chest or something like that?
Like, you need to look.
I'm a hair.
Oh, that sounds like a personal problem.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
You're contradicting yourself.
Honestly, bro, what you might need to do is you might need to just copy me and go one all the way around and then and then do something else.
I don't know what you're gonna, I'm not gonna tell you what to do with Joe pubic hair.
No, I don't think I'm gonna do this.
I think he's jealous, to be honest.
Pressure and Jealousy00:04:27
You know what's gonna happen?
He says that.
He says he's not gonna do it, but watch.
When he gets home, he's gonna hike.
I'm on your side.
No, I'm on your side.
Now, you know what's gonna happen?
We better hope you don't get no ops.
They're gonna jump you and somebody gonna yell, yeah, rip his rat tail off.
No, another rat tail.
Open his leg.
Hey, hey, but look, Hey, not to switch the subject, but the other day I was at work.
I just started a new job.
I'm gonna keep it disclosed.
But we were sitting around and we were talking at lunchtime.
Hey, you remember, um, you remember the story of the lady that she like overdosed on like fentanyl or something like that while she was driving and she crashed.
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about?
Y'all went by rob that shit.
Yeah, right.
So he was telling me, he was like, he was like, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, that's my, that's my sister.
And I was sitting there and I was thinking, like, bro, these calls are anonymous unless you disclose your information.
You're like, you know how y'all be getting people like in cases and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Right?
So I know this nigga's listening to this.
So I just want you to know that whenever you listen to this on Wednesday or Thursday, whichever day they, you know what I'm saying?
You come and it comes out, you listen to it.
I just want you to know you a whole life lying ass nigga.
And I count your ass and I'm going to see you on Monday morning.
And I already told you I was going to do this.
And I'm going to look you dead in your face and I'm going to say, we going viral, nigga.
I feel bad because he's not, he doesn't know, but he's on the fear at all.
Yeah.
No, I promise you.
I promise you.
I promise you.
He gonna know.
All right.
But yeah, that's it, bro.
I appreciate y'all.
Take care, man.
Man.
All right, that was incredible.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for watching.
You guys are fucking amazing.
Yeah, thank you for having us.
Crash Dummies podcast with Mike and Pat.
Phenomenal work.
I'm on their episode.
It's going to be coming out in two days after this one comes out.
So you'll get a lot of the references that we were talking about here as well.
I just wanted you guys to get a little bit cultured.
Okay.
That's what I wanted you all to see.
Woody put some seasoning.
Yeah.
We're came to like season.
Like, you got some like nice rotisserie chicken.
Yeah.
But we added, you know, a couple more spices.
Yeah.
Um, Aries.
Like cumin.
What do you guys want?
I mean, this is a human household, but uh, what do you guys want to plug?
Oh, just follow Scratch Don't be his podcast everywhere, follow us on our personal Instagrams.
Um, that's really it, yeah, yeah.
We're simple, simple guys.
I like don't, yeah, just stay Instagram.
I got to sell.
I'm not going to course one, they never know.
And we are going to be continuing these calls in the other behind the paywall at the Patreon at fear and patreon.com/slash fear.
And we'll see you next time.
Peace.
Peace.
Oh, and how to dap up properly too, bro, because I'll be going in for dap ups and niggas be shaking my hand and shit.
Like, why am I giving you a hand club for, bro?
We can try this out.
All right.
Ready?
We got white people in here.
All right.
Oh, no.
Wait, you can't go from right here.
No, no, no.
Hold on.
Now, okay.
That's the thing about that.
Yes, you can.
Okay, hold on.
Okay, okay.
See that?
Okay, hold on.
It's your thumb.
It's your thumb.
Okay, now hold on.
In my defense, there's a lot of pressure.
Okay, I don't usually do it.
There you go.
Lee that thumb.
The thumb is your problem right there.
It's like you want to cuff it.
Yeah, see, that's that scene.
That was your brother.
Yeah, it was.
There's definitely different layers to it.
But see, normally I would get it right.
But see, there's normally I don't have like there's a lot of cameras around.