Fear& hosts Ididathing and Boyboy detail their Australian transition, recounting border interrogations and encounters with venomous wildlife. They dissect a chaotic China trip involving dog meat consumption, specifically biting a baculum bone, while analyzing the industry's hypocrisy against South Korea's upcoming January 9, 2024 ban. Ultimately, the episode contrasts Western documentary exploitation with shifting global cultural norms regarding animal welfare and dietary traditions. [Automatically generated summary]
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Customs Border Patrol Encounter00:13:01
How's it going?
How's it going?
Hello.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to the Fear In podcast.
A podcast by three guys from Australia.
Three regular.
That's right.
We've changed.
We've changed.
I've improved.
I've improved quite a lot.
I've improved myself.
And I've improved my co-host.
Who am I replacing?
Am I Will.
No, you're Austin.
You're Austin.
He's the eye candy.
And you're Will.
Cutie Cinderella couldn't make it.
She's actually still a part of the podcast.
But Will and Austin are not.
I've cut them out.
It's over.
It's you guys now.
What's up, everybody?
We're back.
We're back.
We're doing Fear Ann Podcast, and we're doing it in Australia.
Unfortunately, Will couldn't come and Austin was not interested in coming ever.
And Cutie, of course, doesn't travel.
So it's just me with my two Aussie boyfriends.
And we're popping off out here in Sydney.
I don't know if you guys watch the live streams.
I am also going to Melbourne after this as well.
So we're going to be doing some other podcasts with some other Australian content creators as well.
And we'll bring you along for the journey.
You're already, both of you guys are, you got the piggies out.
You got the dogs out.
You got the dogs out.
I just want to help you guys get some views, you know?
Why is it?
Why are they so dirty under?
It's because I walk barefoot everywhere.
It's also because the house is...
I'm barefoot in the garage and then I walk through the house.
So then the floor is filthy and covered in like metal spice.
As best it's filthy, but usually there's like shavings of metal that you end up stepping on.
Dude, that's the same exact nonsense with my brother.
Murat also has a lot of metal shavings everywhere and he brings it into the fucking house and it's the worst thing ever because you step on it.
You're like, this is not supposed to be here.
I bring them into my bed.
Are you saying that as if someone's done this to you?
You're like shocked?
I mean, I am shocked because I'm shocked at myself, but I don't change my behavior.
And then I'm like, this hurts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's weird.
Why do you not, you know, clean yourself a little bit more?
I don't know.
I can't.
Anyway, okay.
Well, listen.
Listen.
I think that I have a lot of opinions on Australia.
And I want to get started with the number one thing that I've been saying already.
Australia is baby America.
It is very similar to America in many ways, I think.
And you guys have gotten very mad at me for this.
I just feel culture shocked whenever I go to America.
Maybe I'm just in denial.
I don't know.
But maybe it's because it's mini America, so you don't.
Yeah.
It's just more America plus.
America is America Plus.
Australia is America minded.
It's like when you get angry at other people for exhibiting behaviors that you have.
Yes.
I go there and I'm angry because I'm like, I see it.
I see it in myself.
You're like, indigenous genocide.
Who could have done this?
What is wrong with you?
Who could have done that?
Why are you a settler colony?
Not me.
No, thank you.
I would never do such a thing in Australia.
What are some of the things that you say that you're like?
So car-cooked.
Yeah.
I think Australia is very car-cooked.
It kind of has to be in some ways, I guess, because there are areas that you just can't go to without having a car.
But I suspect that many people are not traveling to random parts of the fucking Outback where no one lives.
What's that about?
There's just whole spaces of land where it's just no one lives.
We're working on colonizing that.
That's a project.
It's a settler client.
What happened there?
No one fucks with that?
I don't know if you're talking from like a ecosystem kind of like it's not profitable to go to these.
We go there for mining.
For mining.
It just doesn't rain.
I think.
Maybe that's a big part of it.
It's just a what?
It doesn't rain.
It's like the east coast of Australia and then every like people only live on the coast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just because of water.
It's there's so much land though.
Yeah.
People used to know how to live in the middle of Australia.
Yeah.
Killed all those guys.
So like you should have asked them like, how do you do this before killing them?
You say that, but Pine Gap.
That's true.
Americans know how to live in there.
Very useful spaces in the middle of Australia.
That's, oh my, so is Pine Gap in the middle of Australia?
Yeah, like pretty much.
It's like dead center.
Oh, there's got to be some utility out of that.
I think the idea is that like, because it never rains, they get like perfect satellite communications.
And then also it's in the middle of the Outback.
So it's very hard to get to.
Yeah.
Unless you're YouTubers with a mission.
Yeah.
It wasn't that hard to use.
Did anybody, did anybody like, since the police detained you, has anyone reached out again?
No.
No.
So that was it?
We did have a weird thing happening for a while since we came back.
We had police visiting a lot because we've got security cameras in this house that point at the street.
And they always come by and be like, there was a murder.
We have to plug this USB into your security cameras and find out.
We're like, okay.
And it happened, like, it happened probably six or seven times in two to three weeks.
Do you think a lot of murders are happening in your neighborhood or there's the cops are just like working?
I haven't heard of a single murder in this neighborhood.
No.
I mean, it's not like I know.
They were like, it's gang related.
So we're like, oh, maybe we won't know about it.
After a while, we said, like, no, no, thanks.
Let them let the gangs do what they want to do.
Yeah.
Leave me out of it.
Yeah.
I'm not snitching.
I've taken, I don't want to take a position on the gangs.
Wait, that's nuts.
So you think, like, maybe the intelligence community is like, let's see what these guys are doing.
I think we're just actually paranoid and we want to feel like we've done something really cool.
So we're like, they're actually after us.
I definitely like to think that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It makes me feel important.
Yeah.
I think it's more we live in a dodgy era.
I did consider not putting your name down when I was getting my Australian visa because like I thought maybe because of the Pine Gap video, there would be like, no, like you're already dinged up on our list.
Like you can't get TSA pre-check for some weird reason.
I don't know what it is.
I'm not speculating.
Maybe it's just government incompetence and they're just like bad at giving me TSA pre-check, only me.
Everyone else seems to have an easy time with it.
I don't know.
And then he's like, well, what are they doing?
Are they linking up?
Like, this guy, Pine Gap, CIA here, you have a file.
What's the fuck is this about?
And I thought that I might not get like a visa to Australia, which is like the most cuck thing because like.
It is America.
It is.
It's not even America.
It's a base.
It's an American base.
I own this country and I'm not allowed into it.
It's insulting.
Yeah.
We had the same issue coming to your place.
We wrote Hassan down as a contact.
And then the customs people are like, you're meeting this Hassan.
And where did you meet him before?
Like, oh, on the internet.
Like, you met Hassan on the internet.
On the Islam forums.
Yeah.
And they're like, now you're staying at his house.
Do you know his address?
I'm like, not really.
Like, how long have you known this man?
I was like, oh, I've spoken to him like once or twice online.
Like, you're living with him.
Yeah, which is normal.
This is how it works.
Which I had that exact same exchange with the Customs and Border Patrol guy in Australia.
But mine wasn't like, mine was a random search.
And like, what I mean by that is there was a customs and border patrol guy, which, by the way, they suspiciously wear outfits that don't look like they're professional.
Awesome.
Probably because they're not carrying like fucking AR-15.
But maybe you got a special one because we've been pulled over a lot by the random people, but they obviously look like they're in a uniform.
He was in a uniform, but it didn't give off like cop vibes.
Yeah, they kind of looked.
Yeah, they look cheery.
He looked like he could be wearing like a delivery driver uniform.
Yeah, yeah.
So I was like, I was looking at him.
I grabbed my bag.
15-hour flight, by the way.
We'll talk about that in a second.
Grab my bag.
And this like bogan-looking dude is like looking at me.
And I'm looking back at him and I'm like, how do I get out of here?
Because I couldn't figure out where the exit was.
He's like, well, you're not getting in here.
Let me tell you, I'll show you how to get out of here, man.
Fucking hell.
No, he was just like, all right, come over here.
And I was like, oh, a helpful guy.
Nope.
He just starts being real inquisitive with me.
And then I realized, like, is this motherfucker Customs and Border Patrol?
What's happening?
And then he just like, he starts asking me questions like, what do you do?
And he's like, can I see your car?
Because we do the smart.
You guys have the smart thing?
Yeah.
Where you like have to put your passport in.
And it's like, oh, God.
I don't know if this is just me, but I get so fucking annoyed because like on the plane, they give you a card and you have to write all the stuff.
And they're like, did you bring in any meat?
Did you bring in any dairy?
Like, did you bring in tobacco products?
We're all lactose intolerant here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The government has to keep an eye on it.
And I get it.
Like, because it's an island, delicate ecosystem.
You don't want to fuck it up.
Like, you can't even bring shoes with like soil on them.
Right.
So in my mind, I'm thinking, like, you know, okay, I fill this out and then it's fine.
And then I get out of the plane and I have to do it again on the fucking smart machine.
Also, have you seen what they do with your card?
Literally, you give it to a person, you walked in, they just throw it in a bit.
Why did I fill that out if you're going to ask me the questions anyway?
So I fucking fill it out.
I do the smart machine.
After the smart machine, this fucking bogan is asking me the same exact fucking questions.
I'm like, bro, this is the eighth time I'm answering these.
No, I don't have any soil on my fucking shoes, man.
Like, no.
They're like, oh, have you been to Indonesia or South America?
And I'm like, that's weird.
Why are you asking me specifically those two places?
I don't know.
Do they got beef with Indonesia?
What's happening?
I don't know because it's like the same fucking thing.
I don't like Indonesia.
Maybe they're just racist.
Yeah, yeah.
We just don't like Indonesia.
Have you been there?
They should be honest, though.
Like when they approach you, they should just be like, are you Muslim?
This should be that question.
That also did happen with the Customs and Border Patrol guy.
Literally, he's like, it's like, oh, so he looks through my paperwork and he's like, all right, well, you got to come with me.
And in the time frame, like, I always try to avoid telling people that I'm like a political commentator, especially not a customs and border patrol agent.
And I don't want to tell him like what I do exactly either because I don't want him to be like, wait a minute, you're not here for a fucking tourism operation.
It seems like you're doing commerce, mate.
Fucking now I'm British.
I don't know why I'm British now.
Fuck.
Anyway, like, so I don't want him to like ding me on that, right?
So I'm just like, I'm a Twitch streamer.
This guy's like 50 fucking years old.
He doesn't know what Twitch is.
So I thought that would end the conversation dead in its fucking tracks.
No, inquisitive motherfucker.
It's like, oh, Twitch streamer, my son watches Twitch.
What kind of games?
What do you do on Twitch?
And I'm like, I'm not telling him I do politics.
So I'm like, I play video games.
And I'm thinking, this will stop the conversation.
And we'll move on to the next question.
No, my son loves video games.
What do you play?
Do you play FIFA?
Do you play 2K?
And I was like, no.
And in my mind, I was thinking, like, what's the fucking lamest, like, nerdiest thing I can pull out of my ass?
I was like, Final Fantasy VII.
I play role-playing games.
So then he's like, that did stop him.
He was not, he did not inquire further about that at all.
He was like, oh, fuck this guy.
He's, you know, okay, fuck this dude.
But then he starts talking to me about the TikTok ban because he's like, well, you're an influencer.
You know.
Do you think TikTok and you're American?
Do you think TikTok's going to get banned?
And, you know, I just immediately, I flipped the switch and immediately I was, you know, being a fucking political commentator.
And I started explaining to him how unfair it is because like America just simply wants to like take this very profitable corporation and and like sell it to an American by force not really a TikTok ban blah blah blah and I think that worked as well because I bored him So then so then that was good.
Maybe just stick to the political commentator.
Yeah, I just feel like I'm a political commentator.
I will fucking bore you.
I promise.
So what ended up happening is we go to the x-ray machine.
He looks through it.
There's nothing going on.
He, you know, he's like, but in the process, there was the funny moment.
He looks at my name.
He's like, so Hassan.
He's like, where are you from?
And I'm like, Los Angeles, California.
And he goes, but your name is Hassan.
Where are you really from?
And I like, I was shocked because like they don't do that in America, like, which is surprising because like America's pretty fucking racist.
But I've never had someone be like, but where are you really from?
That's not even a border control thing.
Like people on the street, even to me, white guy, will just be like, where are you from?
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Yeah.
You know, I noticed your eyebrows are a bit darker than mine.
Come on.
Tell me where you're from.
What are we working with?
Well, the where are you from happened twice?
It happened in the fucking Uber ride.
Not Uber.
It was like a driver that my manager had hired.
And the guy immediately said the exact same thing.
He's like, well, your name is Hassan.
You're not from America.
Like, where are you actually from?
And that was a whole different can of worms.
But I don't even want to get into that right now.
Yeah.
So far, so good.
What the fuck's going on in Australia?
There's just spiders everywhere.
They're so venomous.
You've survived, though.
It's terrifying.
You had a spider thrown on you.
I did.
This is going to come up.
It was great, though, that we took you snorkeling, and fish were way more of a problem for you than spiders.
Way more.
It was the most terrifying experience.
I can't wait to see the GoPro of me shitting my pants as these like big ass, like puppy-sized fish are just like swimming at me.
I've never seen someone scream like that in the water.
No, ever.
It was actually really embarrassing.
I can't go back to that, but it was.
I think it was a very manly scream, to be fair.
I think it was more like, oh, like, like, it was like you were fucking shadowboxing and then I was fighting the blue gropers.
Blue Groper.
Yeah, it's a that's a weird name.
Maybe that's why they're called Gropers.
Do you understand?
Yeah.
Because I want to bit my nipple.
Yeah, that was weird.
I've never, ever heard of that happening before.
Neither.
I thought they were going to be more scared of me.
I think I much prefer fish being afraid of me than not being afraid of me.
Wanting to kiss you.
It fucks you up when they just swim at you.
You're like, this is not supposed to be.
No arms.
It's like a paraplegic running at you.
Like you can't do it.
That's scary.
That is scary.
That's like some Exodus shit.
Yeah.
Like someone in their arms are like flailing around and they're just running at you headfirst.
You'd be like, what the fuck?
That's scarier than that's what you feel when you see a fish running at you.
You know what I feel?
Because I understand your feet now.
Like if I felt that I feel like everything in my mind is telling me that this is an alien organism and I shouldn't be here right now.
I shouldn't be in the water.
And also, like, what does he know that I don't know?
Yeah.
Think about it.
I spent a lot of time in there.
A lot of time to think.
Yeah.
He's been down there.
He knows a lot.
He knows all the secrets of the ocean that I don't know.
But that's not even it.
I'm just saying, like, because most of the time, fish are like, oh, that's a big thing.
Not, you know, that's alien foreign object here.
I'm going to run away.
That other fish doesn't give a fuck.
So he knows something.
He's confident.
It might just be horny.
Yeah, true.
Just a horny fish.
She had a big blue shirt on.
I'm the funny person.
And you love to grope.
You're a blue groper.
I'm just saying, like, I don't know what he knows.
He obviously has some set of skills that allow him to be that confident.
I don't want to find out.
There's a boring but cute answer to that.
That, like, we're swimming in a protected zone.
So, like, everywhere outside of that, you can fish for them.
And in there, you can't.
So, like, they know this somehow.
And, like, when you're in the protected zone, they'll come up to you.
And once you're out there, they're like, they don't want anything to do with you.
That also doesn't make a lot of sense.
Because, in my mind, in my head, Cannon, fish are way stupider than that.
Yeah, I thought so as well, but this doesn't.
It's weird.
You learn that they're actually pretty creepy and then it makes you feel like you don't want to kill them.
But then I keep killing them anyway.
Because Finding Nemo is a documentary, as we established.
This is the Australia, this is the peak of my Australian content: finding out that, you know, fish are actually smart.
Well, some of them are dumb.
There's the one with the amnesia.
Yeah, the turtle, though.
That doesn't count.
Turtle?
In Finding Nemo?
In Finding Nemo?
Was it the turtle that had amnesia?
I thought it was like the other little girlfish that was like Dory.
Dory, doesn't Dory forget that?
That is not the turtle.
Yeah, that's like.
A turtle's just a stoner.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Just a high guy.
Yeah.
Also forgets.
We did find out that turtles are horny.
So horny today that one of them fucked a rock so hard that it broke their shell.
Yeah.
Which is impossible to break.
We've had some good fun so far, I think.
We've done a lot in a very, very short period of time.
I know.
I would like to sleep.
Okay.
So let's go around.
Let's try this thing that we were doing before we started the camp.
Before we started the stream, do your American accent.
I can't.
It's so hard.
Where am I looking?
What's my guy?
I can try my best.
It's really hard to speak in an American accent.
My name's Alexa.
I'm here on a podcast with Hassan, Hassan.
Why do you put that on?
That is the only one I can do.
Everything else is a good thing.
Because he sings Johnny Cash.
So that's his just.
He's singing that.
Yeah, that's the only American accent I know.
Oh, my God.
That's why you do that.
Well, that makes so much sense, bro.
Bro, that makes so much sense, bro.
Bro, fuck.
I only, apparently, he was saying that I only have a couple phrases that I like nail perfectly.
It's like certain words are like indistinguishable.
And then the direct next one will be absolutely nothing like the Australian accent.
It's just like a hard one to, hard one to like judge.
What if it's like, what if it's more like I'm Australian, but I lived in America for too long?
So now that happens here a lot because like people think America's cool.
So I remember I had this kid in high school.
He went to like America for a week with his family.
He came back.
He had an American accent for the rest of high school.
It was super light.
I mean, I was like, putting it on, but it's just like, it's like, oh, it's my thing now.
I'm an American guy.
Well, we get that as well.
They're international schools where it's like, they're Australians, but they don't live in America.
They interact with a lot of them.
And then they just have American accents for some reason.
Some reason our autistic people as well have American accents.
What?
I'm not.
I'm not joking.
Autistic Australians have American accents.
Where do you think autism comes from?
Every single autistic kid at our school had an American accent.
I mean, I know a lot of autism people with Australian accents.
How come you don't have an American accent?
Yeah.
Yeah, kind of odd that you're saying this right now.
Sounding real Australian, big dog.
Perfect American accent.
No, is it like a nerdy American accent?
It's like, actually.
It's like an anime.
It's like an anime American accent.
Oh, like a dramatic, I don't know, dramatic accent.
Yeah, do it.
Do your autistic American accent.
Go ahead.
Fuck it.
I can't.
I only do one American accent.
It's the only one I know.
Okay.
Okay.
You're doing this.
Is it turning into Cometown real fast, by the way?
This literally has become Come Town immediately.
Yeah, no, this is Johnny Cash, but he's on his case.
Here's the trainer coming, and that's all he cares about.
Yeah.
You got to know when to hold him and know when to fold him.
Is that Johnny Cash?
That's Waylon Jennings, I think.
I think Johnny Cash sang that too, though.
Oh, yeah.
Everyone's, it's pretty incestuous in country music.
He's done covers.
Like, his hurt cover is, I think, like the best version of the song in general.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't listen to any music except for that one song.
That's very sad.
I don't know.
It's fucked up.
You guys are coming to America soon.
Yeah, in June.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're excited.
How long are you planning on staying there?
Um, until you kick us out, I think is the plan.
Like last time.
Yeah.
Okay, so you're not as right.
What are we?
What are we going to do when we're out there?
I really want to go to a prison rodeo.
Yeah.
I heard you guys have like real-life gladiators in America.
And like, I saw the movie with Russell Crowe and I thought that was just like ancient Rome, but it's apparently it's.
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I mean, football's kind of like that too, honestly.
Yeah, but they're not, they're not like slaves.
True.
What do you mean?
Like some of them have been to prison.
No, no, I meant like oh, they just kill each other.
Football.
Yeah, they all get CET.
They're just straight up pummeling on one another and then their lifespan is like greatly shortened.
And then the NFL hides the fact that like it was actually killing them like a lot.
Like until they commit suicide killed.
Yeah.
We have very similar sports here.
But it's like, it's not just that it like kills them, but it makes them like really angry.
Like if you look up, I think AFL and rugby here, like they have the highest domestic abuse out of any sports, but that makes sense.
First, because of the culture and they hit their heads for it.
Yeah, he's just like, there's if you're really good at doing that one thing, you think that's how you solve the problem?
I'm not even, yeah, I'm not even falling.
It's like cops.
You know what I mean?
Cops are just like so good at beating the shit out of people that they just think like, oh, my soup is cold.
So it's time to do the thing that I did to the 14-year-old black kid earlier.
It should be a rule then that like rugby players, AFL players, they are only allowed to date people as big as them.
Yeah, so when they have a problem, it's like, well, this is like we're playing that game again.
Yeah, we're having a scrum.
I don't know if you celibate like monks.
Dude, I love that.
Dude, come retention.
That would make them more powerful.
Oh, it's too scary.
They would be too good.
They'd run through the gates of the stadium and then just do like airbending or something.
Like, I don't even know where they would take it.
They start levitating randomly.
They just, they did too much semen retention.
Okay.
Well, I want to hear what you guys think about this, but I think that there should be like legalized steroids in sports.
I feel like it would genuinely improve it.
I mean, Icefield's a separate category.
He still had like all natural sports.
Why?
I think everything you should, if you're an athlete and we have a better way to be an athlete, then you're not an athlete if you're not taking steroids.
Like, that's just the best way to be the best at it.
Yeah.
So you're on board with it as well.
I'm completely on board with it.
I'd like to watch it, but I'd also like to watch a different version.
No, I want to, if someone can watch a faster man, I'm going to watch the faster man.
Yeah, but let's say you have like a cyborg Olympics.
You know, would you want them competing with the steroid guys?
Yes.
So that you can watch them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Body modification all the way.
Like some guys are cyborgs.
Some guys have like really pushed it to the max with steroids.
There would be no natural, just like no steroid guy at all.
But I mean, who cares?
I don't give a shit.
I want everybody to look like fucking Baki characters.
But if you're already fucking getting CTE and like dying earlier, this isn't a big jump.
It's not like...
Probably be healthy.
You'd probably have to work out less to achieve the same results.
You think working out is at least I mean a work-life balance.
You get more of a work-life balance.
I don't think that's why they get fucked up, dude.
I think it is.
I think it is.
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They're just stressed out.
Nobody's going, oh, thank God I have to work out less.
Like, this is the worst part of my job.
Maybe that's true.
I just had it all wrong.
So silly.
Oh, my God.
Let's see what do I have here.
I realized that this podcast is basically always about me yelling at Austin about all of the things that he did to me over the week.
And then like, you know, Will coming in with like one pet peeve that he has.
And then QT's just kind of also doing that a little bit.
So like normally, normal podcasts, the way they work, like we have topics to talk about.
Well, we don't really fucking have any topics.
We've been doing the same thing.
Except for the fact that, yeah, except for the fact that when I first came down here, I, of course, didn't plan well ahead of time.
I just basically hit you guys up and I was like, I'm coming.
And which was great because you guys were like, okay, cool.
Also, you don't have a space.
You're like, where are you staying?
That sounds sick.
Yeah, well, because I had the realization.
I was like, fuck.
Like, I haven't told Hassan that we don't.
Because the last time I spoke to you, we had a spare room.
And I was like, my brother's living here now.
So I was like, we'll do it.
We'll tell him.
And then Alexa was like, no, no, it's cool.
We'll just bunk up and Hassan can stay here.
He was very excited about it.
I don't want to sleep in the same bed with Alex.
Like, it's not appealing to me.
But sometimes you got to do things.
Yeah.
Sacrifice it.
Yeah.
It seems like a big sacrifice.
But yeah, no, I just totally, I was like, no, I'm staying.
I'm staying at your house.
No, I was going to get a hotel, but then I felt bad that you were like going to bunk up.
We're bugg up all the time.
Sometimes it's like spooky here, some scary nights.
It's pretty scary.
What do you think of my room?
Is it nice?
Dude, this house is so sick.
It's actually, it's covered in trash right now because I ruined it.
Like, I came in and immediately, the first thing I did after getting on the fucking, getting off the 15-hour flight was I basically put all of the things that I had in my bags.
I opened them up in the middle of the fucking space.
And there's just stuff everywhere.
Like, I sprawled out here.
It's disgusting.
And I'm really sorry for you.
I don't, you shouldn't feel bad because we did tidy before you came.
It was bad.
What I do when I come home, but my bag is filled with sand.
It's full of fish.
It's the same thing that you do.
Or like dead fish.
It's so much worse.
It was so sick when I first walked in.
It's like, it's very tastefully decorated, like even down to your grandmother's dead boyfriend's furniture.
Yeah.
It's sick.
Like it fits very well.
Your room is awesome.
There's so much commie shit everywhere, by the way.
Like, an unimaginable amount.
Like, it's way worse than my house.
I feel like I have way less commie shit than you do.
Yeah, and ours is very aggressive, North Korean propaganda as well.
Yeah, you have like agit prop everywhere.
Your room is insane.
I try to do it.
You read too much.
Like, you read, those aren't for reading.
They just, they're just there.
So you would comment on it on the project.
Probably for the baby over and be like, wow.
You have a projector in your room.
Yeah, true.
Do you use it?
Yeah, all the time.
I feel like that's not a very good way to watch stuff.
What do you mean?
Is it too bright?
It's great.
It's great.
You don't have to do anything.
You just kind of like lie down.
Yes, you do.
You have to press a button and then you have to wait for it to go.
You have to focus it.
You don't have to focus a TV.
You definitely have to move your fucking art piece that you have.
No, no.
It cuts out just underneath that.
Oh, really?
Just on top of that.
Yeah.
Everything's worked out perfectly.
I want to bring it out here to show it.
Okay.
I'm very, very happy about that.
The art piece that you have in your room.
I made it last week in preparation for Hassan coming.
Wait, really?
Did you make it last week?
No, I was making it.
Are you bringing it?
I did make it last week, but.
Do you want me to bring it?
You're getting up.
I'm very excited.
I was going to get up and get it.
He literally is okay.
It was great when he was making this, though, because this was his first time using the tools in the garage.
Oh.
So everything was, he was just like, how do I use a circular saw?
And then he would just keep using tools that are incredibly loud without headphones, without earmuffs.
Oh, that's not.
And have you noticed he's completely deaf?
Oh, that's why he's deaf?
He's completely deaf.
He's not completely deaf, but he just can't.
Some would say it's a waste of a harp.
Yeah.
So there's a bit there in between the two caches.
Yeah.
So I don't understand.
You have to explain this art piece to everybody.
So I first explain what it is to those at home who are listening.
It's just something to like put flowers on, put plants on.
But it's like, it's an old harp.
It's such a soft boy thing to make.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
It's a harp with flowers in it.
You're ran through.
You're ran through, dog.
This is some ran through ass shit.
March loves it.
Like, immediately, red flag right there.
This is some ran through ass shit.
It's a fucking harp that he like gutted.
So it was already fucked.
I got it for like 40 bucks because the whole soundboard was like lifted off.
Everything was destroyed.
So I was just like, I was going to just turn it back into a harp, but I thought, like, I'll do something much harder and like less fun, which is like, make this fucking thing and like cut it all out and put it.
Yeah, you put like a he put like a wooden board in the middle of it, and then he just placed a fake plant.
No, it's a real plant.
That's a real plant?
In Australia, we've got some nice things.
Not everything is artificial grass in Australia.
It looks so fake.
I just didn't even think twice.
I was like, that's a fake plant.
No, it's all right.
You have to take care of it.
Yeah, yeah.
This is a fresh guy.
His son's learning that plants are real.
Like, what do you have to do to take care of it?
You're so not ran through.
You never spoke to a girl before.
Well, you have to water plants.
Wait a minute.
Can we compare it, though, to the music instrument that I have that's art?
And then we can see which one's better.
Oh, yours is better.
Sawed off guitar.
Yeah.
So you.
Oh, shit.
And look, you can place it anywhere.
So why did you do that?
Well, I didn't need to see.
Why is he flexing on you right now?
Well, because I just remember that I've got an art piece as well.
That's my favorite.
Let him have his moment.
He's not good at a lot of stuff.
He needs to.
Yeah.
When it comes to fish facts.
Oh, man.
He's fucking.
Yeah.
I'm great.
Yeah.
When it comes to fish fags, he's like, he's alright.
But this is the only thing I've made out of the four years of making dumb shit that I was like, this is actually kind of nice looking.
It does look very cool.
I thought it was actually an art piece.
Yeah.
When I saw the harp, I was like, that's actually an art piece.
That's what I want as well.
No, it's not done.
I got a lack of this stuff.
It'll be the same color as the rest of the harp.
And then we're done.
I don't want bigger.
What do you have to do to take care of these fucking plants?
Just water them.
But there's some.
Is that a question?
There's some sunlight in there, but I got ones that are like good in the dark.
Yeah.
See, that's a good question because some plants you can keep in the dark and other plants you have to like not water that much.
Some plants you water too much.
But I'll say, when you buy a plant, like I buy this plant, there's a little tag.
It says, water me this.
Put me in the sun for this long.
Yeah, you have a lot of, you have a lot of shrubbery in here.
Yeah.
He loves nature.
He's one of those nature pedophiles.
Yeah, it's weird, dude.
How much you love nature is odd.
No, it's not.
It's the coolest thing there is.
The nature is the coolest thing there is.
And you get to shoot it.
We're like fucking hadron colliders.
You think nature is the coolest thing?
I fuck that.
I'm so on not on the nature.
You're not a hard-on collider guy.
That's your brother.
Hard-on collider.
You got a hard-on for a hard-on collider?
Yeah.
But I do, I still, I appreciate it.
Yeah, so do I. I'm not saying I don't like that.
I just love, I love conquering nature.
I legitimately, like when I go up into the fucking mountains, like my brother would be like, let's go off-roading.
I'm like, ugh, so fucking lame.
Whatever.
It makes no sense.
There's no goal.
The goal is to get stuck so you can get unstuck.
That makes no sense.
I also hate that.
You drove like a hundred miles into like dirt so you can undirk yourself.
That makes no fucking sense to me.
But the thing that I always look at is like when we're on the mountaintops, I'm like, fuck, man.
Look at these big ass beams bringing power into the fucking city.
And I'm like, yeah, fuck you, nature.
See, I like that as well.
I like both.
Yeah.
You have to choose.
No?
No, you have to choose.
Okay, brutalist, like gray blocks for public housing or fucking in nature.
I want brutalist, but like a plant has grown all over it.
Okay, that does sound like Last of Us.
That's what I want.
That sounds kind of cool, actually.
Fuck.
Okay, yeah, go.
I'm going to win that one.
I'll take it.
I'll take that.
I like that you guys did your art, like your show.
No, he just put his in front of mine.
He just couldn't handle.
Just show and tell, though.
Also, I heard you talking shit over there that I never used tools.
I made a whole ass guitar.
He could hear you?
Yeah.
Turns out he's not that deaf.
Yeah, so I take it back, Alexa.
Thank you.
Wait, you made a whole ass guitar?
Yeah.
Factory Pig Rabies Euphemism00:15:41
It's not here, though.
I definitely made it.
Where is it?
It's at a friend's house.
It's a sad thing.
It sounds so fake.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it's because you started telling the story and you're like, this does it.
It sounds so belief.
It's not here.
It's at a friend's house.
That's the.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like just like your girlfriend.
Yeah, exactly.
She goes to another school.
Sure, definitely.
She likes me.
She thinks I'm really cool.
She loves my art piece.
You did say that.
No, she inspired it.
I'm like, I'm going to make a harp.
She's like, well, why don't you make a plant thing?
And I'm like, because I wanted to have a big plant in the middle of my room.
It's like, why not do both?
Well, win-win.
Win-win for everybody.
Yeah, but you have like, what are the other things you have on the wall?
You have like a no human sign.
Oh, yeah.
You can read Mandarin.
Oh, no.
Sorry, the picture says no humans.
I was so confused.
I can't read Mandarin.
It was a big metal sign.
We were in Beijing and we were doing like urban exploring.
So we're trying to break into like these abandoned factories.
Like the largest steelworks in China and they closed them because of the Beijing Olympic Games, because they were producing too much poison pollution, and there it's like the size of I don't know three times this suburb.
What's in American?
How many football fields?
Or like oh, just for the factory, just for the factory, the biggest building I've ever seen in my life, and it was overrun with stray dogs.
It was actually pretty terrifying.
It was.
There were times when we like entered a room and pitched black, stepped on broken glass, and then we just heard like we would just start sprinting away and had tested rabies and shit yeah well, I got a rabies injection because I got fucking scratched by a dog.
Oh, you did get.
Yeah, not on that trip.
But later we cheated the system as well, because before we had any money at all and um, we were traveling to China and like you're, meant to get you don't really, you don't really, we don't have money now either.
But like no, that's not what I was saying.
No, you mean his spending habits, I don't spend money either.
But uh, but you are so fucking frugal now, we'll, we'll get to that in a second.
But then it was worse and like we um, I think it's like 120 bucks to get like a rabies injection.
And we're gonna go to China and go to all these dodgy places and we're just like we don't need to get the injections.
There's a scheme you can do where, if you get exposed and you come back and you say call like the government hotline.
You're like fuck, I have rabies.
Because it like doesn't exist in Australia.
They take it so seriously and they rush you out and they give you the injection for free.
It's like literally, because it happened to me, I came back.
I was like I told them within two hours they had this really incredibly expensive medication sent to me, sent to my local.
It was incredibly expensive.
We just didn't want to spend like 100.
No, the vials are once.
They did once they actually have to give you the uh, the injections.
And then the funny thing is my doctor it up.
He didn't shake up the bottle and he just gave me the saline on top of the actual thing.
Then I like it hurt more than usual.
I was walking home and he gives me a call.
He's like, Alex, you're gonna have to come back.
I um, I only gave you salt water in the needle and i'd been scratched by a dog.
So I was like that's risk.
Oh my god, I heard about, I heard you didn't cheat the system.
You definitely just needed a ring.
I should have just done that before, though.
Yeah, but I I cheated the system because I didn't get scratched by a dog.
But i'm like this shit's free.
Like yeah, I called them.
Like I got scratched, you got one too.
That's why I told you yeah, I was like I was just like oh, I got scratched by a dog um, but like I didn't have any like marks anywhere.
So I was like how do I, how do I make this believable?
I'm like oh, maybe I was petting and it like bit my finger.
And i'm like yeah, I got, I got bitten my finger.
Like oh, that's bad.
I'm like what do you mean?
It's just like oh, because you know, like we, we have to flood the zone with, like the rabies vaccine um, and because the finger's so small they can't fit enough into it.
So they were just like we're just gonna have to pump as much of this stuff into your finger as we can.
And you're like yes, it was so painful that my finger was like twice the size, just swelling with it with liquid.
Fucking, deserve it.
You're like that guy in America that got vaccinated 120 times for some reason.
That's you.
Well, i'm immune to rabies.
Now it's pretty good, and I didn't have to get bitten by a dog.
That's insane.
You guys have done a whole lot of like crazy.
Uh, you literally went to China to to the dog eating thing as well, which you guys never, really you never leave my bad.
I'm just like too, too lazy.
It's still potentially going to be.
Really, i'd like, I'd like to put it out.
It's just like this, it's such a big project, and there's so many quicker things that we can get out.
Yeah, you do work a lot.
There's so much going on.
You know how long it took to make this thing?
It takes a lot of time.
I don't know how much time.
You can't tell that story after John Dunn.
That's crazy.
I know.
You're held up with all of the fuel efficiency that you engage in.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm producing fuel for Australia by driving my car so well.
Yeah.
Before we talk about your frugal habits, let's talk about the other.
Yeah, when you went to China to the dog eating festival, is that what?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, because when you guys first told me, so before we continue here, all three of us are big cine-boos in which it's the opposite of, I guess, a cinephobe or cinephiles.
We like China.
We think China is chill.
It's cool.
It's developing.
It's great.
It's developed.
It's awesome.
So when you guys told me about that, I always thought that it was fake.
Yeah, no.
Like the dog eating thing, I always like, oh, here we go again.
This is like another fucking fake bullshit.
Like, yeah.
No, they just straight up do it.
It is, but it's like, I don't know how real it is now.
Like the Chinese government was over time been like putting pressure on it.
Like they think they were like, yo, this shit's like looking, this is a bad look.
It looks bad.
It literally was.
It was like, yo, white women love dogs, bro.
We got to cut this shit out right now.
It was interesting, though, because it was never completely legal.
Like it's always in a gray zone.
So like you, you're not allowed to eat meat that doesn't have like certain certifications and you can't breed dogs for eating.
So they're exclusively street dogs.
And it's kind of like authorities in the regions that like dogs, like down south, they kind of just look away because it's a the festival brings a lot of money in, like a lot of tourists.
So like people do straight up travel to be like, oh, I can't wait to eat the dog.
And it was interesting interviewing the people there because there were some people that were like, dog is the best fucking meat you've ever had.
And they were also like, yeah, we had so much.
It was like kilograms of dog that day.
Was it good?
It was kind of like lamb.
It was a bit like lamb, but you know how like lamb is thick meat?
This was like, you know, when you get like Chinese chicken where they like, they get it, it's hanging up and they chop it up so it's cut not in fillets.
So you've got a lot of bones.
Every piece we had like a little very bony.
So you had to kind of pull it off.
I fucking almost chip my tooth on a dog's dick when I was there.
They gave me, they gave me.
You presented that like you suck the dog's dick, bro.
Well, you did feel like kind of.
It wasn't alive.
I don't know if that makes it better, but like.
We have this on video as well.
Yeah, yeah.
So one of the dudes there gives it to me and like we don't we don't speak any not even mandarins.
Why do you present it like that?
Okay, come on.
Sorry.
So you talk about the dead dogs.
Suck the dead dog's dick.
This is going to get demonetized.
You had, so I don't speak, it was Cantonese down there.
And the guy was kind of explaining to me, like, if you eat it, you're like, fucking, you'll have a really strong erection.
That was a big thing for everyone.
They kept saying for the beat.
The kind of food, though, wasn't just dogs.
Everything you fucking eat gives you an erection.
They're just like, oh, there's salad.
Were you just like super hard the whole time?
No, he was super soft.
That's all.
All the Chinese dudes around us are really hard.
Maybe you get the whole life.
Like, yeah, I don't get that.
Yeah, there's like a lot of exotic meats that you consume to get your dick heart.
I don't know what's up with that.
Like, why is everybody always so stressed about this shit?
Yeah, but what if you're a woman as well?
You're just like, this meat's not for me.
It makes your pussy hard.
It makes your clit super hard.
It's fucking crazy.
Yeah, this guy, this guy gave me the dick of like the dog, and I was like, oh, sick, I can't try this.
And I thought it was like my dick.
I just kind of assumed it was just like a meaty kind of thing.
And I went just bite into it.
But they have this thing called like a baculum.
So that dogs have like a bone in their owner.
So it's like the bone comes out when they want to have sex, like surrounded by meat.
Yeah, it's not, it's not like a soft thing and it fucking hurts to buy.
Okay.
And they knew he was going to do that as well because I think they just started laughing at you immediately.
I think they laughed me because I ate it like an idiot.
Yeah.
Yeah, but also I don't think you're meant to eat it.
I think that's them being like the funniest.
Dumb white guys.
No, they definitely the funniest way to like dunk on someone is like, oh, this idiot doesn't know how to eat dog dish.
You've never done that before.
How embarrassing.
I eat dogged dick for breakfast.
Like, what the fuck?
Yeah, I don't understand that.
I don't understand it.
Like, I guess it's because I mean, it kind of does make sense because it's like, it's an animal.
Well, that's what they were justifying.
They were saying, like, when we had a translator there, we're talking to a lot of people, and they were like, look, people in India don't eat cows.
That's their sacred animal, but Americans eat so much cats.
But that's the difference.
But they're eating more meat rather than less meat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I guess.
But they also say.
Like, I don't think Indians are like looking at Americans and being like, I can't believe they're eating cows.
Like, I think some of them might be like that.
I don't think it's gross.
Yeah.
Maybe you're right.
Maybe a lot.
Big part of it was that, but then it, in a way, wasn't that as well.
Because a lot, I think the majority of Chinese people don't like that, don't eat dog.
And then they were just not even for Westerners hiding it from Chinese people.
They didn't say dog anywhere.
It was called like crispy best meat or something.
Crispy best meat.
What was it called?
Succulent.
Yeah.
There was a name, like a euphemism for it.
They would say you can't advertise it.
Yeah.
The reason why I asked if it was like actually good is like, because what if it is just fire?
It's all you have and you're like, this is the greatest meat I've ever had in my entire life.
That's why they're like, the government can't stop us.
Like, they're just like, dude, no, fuck this.
That's what I found so funny.
This is like the new Falun Gong movement.
Like, but instead of weird meditation shit and like not allowing race mixing or whatever the fuck the Falun Gong guys believe in, they're like, no, we have to have dog meat.
When the CIA starts working with the dog meat people, it's overthrown.
They're doing Shen Yun, but like in America, where they're like, you have to eat the dog meat.
It's so good.
That's what I found really weird about some of the interviews because a lot of it felt pretty American.
Like the way these people were talking about it, the government can't stop us.
I can eat whatever I want.
You can't tell people what to do.
It was just, I don't know.
It felt like freedom in consumption is such a funny thing.
If we just start getting suspicious articles placed in the New York Times about how these brave warriors fighting against their oppressive regime in China and it's just the dog guys, I'm going to know that they were watching the podcast and they're like, that's the thing.
That's the new thing.
That's how we do it.
That's how we hit these guys hard.
It's funny though, because I don't know what it's like now, but at the time they're making the documentary in Korea, they have like a dog meat industry.
It's completely legalized.
You have dogs that are bred specifically for meat.
Did they eat dog meat in Korea too?
Yeah.
Like factory farm.
It's not illegal.
How come we don't fucking hear about Koreans eating dog all the time?
You know, they eat dog in Switzerland as well.
Yeah.
Not at the same scale, but it's like there's a holiday where you can eat it.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's like all these mountain villages.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
It's just, but it's one, that's why we did it because it's always framed as, you know, China.
It's a Chinese thing.
Chinese people are barbarian.
Like, they don't even fucking like they don't do it as freely as other countries.
Yeah.
There's a shame to it.
Like, so when they're eating it in Switzerland, there's like they're doing it like secretly.
But in Korea, they just have farms.
Yeah.
There's country farms.
You can look it up.
There's like a specific kind of dog breed that's just for me.
It's like a mastiff.
It's like a big, big guy.
It's just cute.
Yeah.
I mean, all animals are cute.
Like, pigs are cute.
That's true.
But, like, I don't give a fuck.
You know what I mean?
Like, I've pet a pig.
You know, they're like, well, pigs are, like, kind of gnarly.
Like, have you guys ever, have you guys ever, like, been in contact with a pig?
Yeah, we got in contact with a big fucking.
This is when we're filming this.
Oh, fucked your ass.
Yeah, I got bitten on the ass by a giant pig.
It was so fucking painful.
This was a big, like, I don't know.
They get real big.
Two, three hundred kilos, man.
It was like impossible.
Like, when it walks past you, just like, it's like a truck.
Like, the air that comes with it, like, pushes you back.
It was so that's too big.
It was so heavy.
It's not true, but it felt very similar.
No, I, I, I mean, I only pet like little teacup pigs that are not like actually small pigs.
There's no such thing as like a miniature pig.
That's a lie that they just don't.
And then you're just stuck with this like behemoth in your house.
But like when they're little babies in Japan, I went and like pet them.
And like their hair is kind of coarse.
Yeah, and it's like sparse.
Yeah, yeah.
And like you can see their skin.
It was the little like liver spots on their back.
Yeah, they're very cute, but like, but like also kind of gross.
They look like a fat Englishman.
Yeah.
But the best thing about this pig interaction was we were looking for cute pigs to film.
So we contacted a guy on Facebook Marketplace that said he had these miniature pigs.
And he's like, yeah, my pigs, my pigs, you can come film them.
They're really cute.
We're like, sure.
We rock up at this both guy's house and it was like, I don't know, looked a bit like a pig style mate.
Like a pig style.
Very good.
And then this pig just came up.
First thing it did was massive was just like take a chunk out of Alexa's arm.
It was so bad.
Like beat you so hard.
You fucking bleeding?
Yeah.
That just scared me for the rest of the day.
I'm like, how the fuck are we going to film this?
Like these are terrified.
These are like, I don't know what this guy was doing.
It's food.
You're like, pigs are not friends.
Yeah, there are nice pigs out there.
I mean, they're also super smart, too.
Yeah.
But that's what I was saying.
Like, I love Winnie the Moo is the cow in Maya's sanctuary, Alveis.
And like, I love that fucking thing.
It's like a big, stupid dog.
You know, they've got big eyelashes.
Yeah, they're very cute.
There's like a spot.
I feel like when you connect with an animal, like when you, when you find their spot, when you're scratching it, they go, oh, this is so good.
That's when you're like, oh, fuck.
I don't feel that way about cows at all.
I still want to eat that shit.
Like, I don't give a fuck.
But dogs is just, it's, you know, I know it's like hypocritical, technically.
Actually, it's hypocritical, but like, it does feel weird.
Yeah, no, I can understand it.
It did feel weird being there because the point of the docker was to talk about that point.
It felt weird when you ate a kilo of dog meat.
Well, I mean, it's like, this feels so weird.
They're white people at like a dog meat festival.
Like, chances are we're activists.
We need to really, every time we start at a table to interview people, we needed to kind of like prove that we're like on there.
We literally had the cops come up and then they saw us eating the dog meat and they were literally like, oh, these guys are kind of cool.
They took some photos with us.
They watched us eat them.
Like literally, our plan of eating as much two kilos of dog each worked so well.
Everyone was like, these white guys love dog.
Yeah, that's crazy.
But it was like, it was like a wider kind of anti-capitalist point in the docker that doesn't exist.
But like, it's, we're following these like anti-cause you're too busy.
Dog Meat Festival Activists00:11:01
To be fair.
Yeah, exactly.
We're following these anti-dog meat activists who like can I even reveal this?
Like I won't say the person, but like, should I reveal the kind of twist?
Maybe no, don't reveal the twist.
Save it for the save it for.
Dude.
Okay, never mind.
Leave it as a cliffhanger.
But we, stumbled upon a sweatshop, which is very important in the story.
Um, yeah.
Anyway, the activist, never mind.
I don't know what the I don't even want to speculate.
I don't even want to speculate.
It's good.
But yeah, when the documentary does come out, you guys will watch it if it does come out.
We should be spruking a docker that's never coming out.
It's coming out.
I hope so.
It's coming.
It's just weird.
Oh, you don't even know if they still do it.
That's so long.
I think we were obviously like seven years ago.
So we look young.
I think they don't do it anymore.
Someone told us after COVID, they shut all the wet markets.
Yeah.
We filmed this just.
I think they stopped wet markets.
I think they got rid of the dog shelters.
Yeah.
They thought dogs were vectors for spreading COVID.
And like.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know what happened after that.
Dude, there's so many dogs that you could have eaten that they just like killed and buried somewhere, including the fucking steel mill that you guys went to.
That's why I thought about the dog.
When you talked about the stray dogs in the steel mill, I was like, damn, there's a lot of dogs you can fucking just round up.
You know, what are they going to do?
It's better to just eat them than fucking kill them and not use their meat.
You know what I mean?
I didn't know that there's like a successful Korean dog meat industry.
I don't know if it still exists.
They had pressure, I think, during the Seoul Olympics ages ago to close it, but it did nothing.
Why is it always the Olympics?
Why does the Olympics make people be like, yeah, we got to change our country?
Because we're playing a sport.
I think that's just an advertising thing.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, they banned it.
Dude, your documentary is never coming out.
Fuck, when they were coming.
When it's never coming out, because even the flip side of it is gone.
Well, what is it?
The consumption of dog meat is heavily restricted and soon to be illegal in South Korea on January 9th, 2024.
Oh, I'm fucked.
The South Korean parliament unanimously passed a law banning the distribution and sale of dog meat to take effect in three years.
Oh my God.
How do you know they fucking still eat that shit?
This is so widespread.
We can't just shut it down tomorrow.
It's going to take at least three years.
It's like a whole industry.
How do you even replace those jobs and those factories?
Well, I guess you just put pigs in there instead of dogs and then you're fine.
Yeah, exactly.
It's so funny because I'm rooting for people to keep eating dogs just so we can release his dock right now.
Yeah.
I got three years.
I got a deadline.
It's been like seven years.
I need another three.
I got a good decade to get.
It does sometimes take you guys a long time to finally complete projects.
You told me about torturing meat the first time a year ago when you came and stayed at my house.
It took me to come out to Australia to complete the project, which is still not complete.
No, no.
I mean, we've done as much on this as I have on the dog meat thing.
So it can be another 10 years.
America is going to, by the time you take this out, America's going to apologize for torturing.
We're going to find out they never even torture it.
We'll just change the country then.
It'll be like, I can't believe Australia does this.
Russia does this.
It is true.
There's plenty of countries that still torture.
So you can just massage it a little bit.
And the techniques are always the same.
Yeah, true.
They do rely on old school methods.
I'm just looking at dog meat for sale in the Gyeong-dong market in 2007.
Is that in Korea?
Geigogi.
Yeah.
Geigogi.
Even you just reading that out makes it sound delicious.
It does sound too much like Bulgogi.
Yeah.
It was so nice in China because they'd like fry it up with like ginger and soy sauce.
He's actually getting nostalgic about eating.
No, like the smell.
I mean, it has nothing to do with dog.
It's like the sauces they put in it, but like just really good Chinese food.
Consumption of dog meat has experienced a precipitous decline over the past three decades in South Korea.
This has been attributed to changes in legislation.
A couple white boys with swag coming to China and also to Korea to find out the consumption of dog meat.
You did that really well.
You fucking killed me.
Even when you said white boys with swag, I was like, this could still be real.
It could still be us.
But we don't have swag, so probably not about that.
The demographic decline of the minority that consumes dog meat and the increasing number of dogs owned as pets.
Estimates of the number of animals consumed vary widely and are subject to a significant debate.
Forum media often quotes estimates of one or two million dogs consumed per year.
I guess that's like kind of small when you think about it.
Yeah, we were doing the numbers and it's like there's insane things for me.
Like I think like slang like 5 million, 50 million?
I forgot to wanna, how many pigs just get thrown out.
There are in 2020, the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs reported 200 registered dog farms and there were still unregistered farms in the country on top of that.
So you're right.
It was like out in the open.
I never even knew about it.
I only knew about like them doing the festival in China.
It was funny.
I traveled to Vietnam when I was like 19 and there was a bit of dog meat down south and it's a funny kind of cultural thing because like Vietnam is like Buddhist.
We've also got lots of Catholics from like the French colonization.
And it's like only the Catholics that eat dogs.
The Buddhists are like, oh yuck.
It's like Catholic things.
So it's like dog markets get really big around Christmas.
But a Buddhist vegetarian?
Why the fuck do the Catholics eat the dog meat?
I don't know.
That's so strange.
You should investigate.
Maybe they were poorer.
I don't even know.
I don't know what the.
Yeah, they converted the broke boys.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They didn't have that Buddhist mindset.
Broke as a mindset.
That's wild.
You guys have done a lot of crazy shit.
Many people here probably don't even know.
They're like, oh yeah, you do engineering videos and you broke into the CIA base.
But like, you have...
I knew about these guys many, many years ago before I ever met them and had totally forgotten about them basically because of the haircut documentary.
Do you know how you found?
Because that wasn't really big on YouTube.
That was like, it would have had like 15,000 people.
Maybe it was like a socialist Reddit or something.
I think that's probably what it was because, especially in the early days of my Twitch stream, I definitely had a lot of hardline, like, you know, 10, 20-year communist, like people that were like, oh, finally, we found a space for ourselves that they wanted to fuck up.
Because that's like the number one thing that socialists love doing is like going in infiltrating spaces and fucking the vibes up.
And they probably loved it because they're like, there's a phenomenon left book way back in the day that I observed that I thought was very strange.
Like people that would say, not that like North Korea was like in a shitty situation because of sanctions, which is understandable and normal and true to say, but they would also, they would literally go so far as to say that like they eat hamburgers every day in North Korea.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's no homelessness.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
People that would like hype up North Korea from like Iowa, like an Iowa Maoist.
It was like, dude, you don't understand.
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea, it's sweet.
And it's like, no, it's not because you would live there if it was fucking sweet.
We had a lot of those people get in contact with us after the Korean video.
But then also, strangely, a lot of like almost conservative right-wing people that almost liked it from like a anti-government point of view.
I remember we even went on like a right-wing, like he was just wanting to chat to us about like, oh, anti-media stuff.
It was interesting that there was a crossover there.
For those of you who didn't watch, it's a great documentary.
I highly recommend it.
They go to North Korea to like dispel a lot of the rumors about like the dispel a lot of the like false stuff that always circulates in not just social media, but like mainstream media about North Korea.
Like, oh, Kim Jong-un like, you know, ate his enemies or whatever.
Yeah, he killed his uncle by feeding him to 150 starving dogs.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a lot of dogs.
Which is funny because they could have eaten the dogs.
It's so crazy.
How do they eating the dogs?
Exactly.
There's too many dogs to just waste.
Which is really funny to think about because like Yonmi Park still does that shit like very successfully.
And people love eating it up because like, I think it's just copium.
Like we need something to be like.
There must be a worse place.
So much worse than Arsenal.
God, we don't have healthcare because, like, we could be like Korea.
Um, but yeah, but I was fascinated by it because, like, I obviously thought that there's a lot of what's going on.
Oh, it's Lucas.
Oh, okay.
They're just talking.
Oh, I got scared.
I thought there was like a crowd of people out there coming into your house.
It's this, they're finally the CIA's like they're like, all three of them are here.
Drone strike them now.
But yeah, no, I thought it was really good.
And you go and you get the haircut, which you suspiciously have never changed since you got this.
It's the best haircut I ever had.
No, it's weird because he had long hair before the fucking haircut documentary.
And ever since then, you've only had this hair.
I always show them the exact same photo from the documentary.
Just like I want to look like I was fade, though, right?
Yeah, it's just that like I only get a haircut like once a year.
Okay.
What's up?
No, he's just giving us the we're in an hour so we can move on to the paywall stuff to get into like the real, the real stuff.
Yeah.
We'll we'll we'll hide eating the dog dick wasn't the bad one.
I can't get anything.
That's like half the fucking story.
There's so much more that you can hear behind the paywall at patreon.com slash fear and where we'll talk about more of their travel stories in a little bit.
So go to patreon.com slash fearan.
But yes, before we do that, where can people find you?
What do you want to shout out?
YouTube.
Boy Boy on YouTube.
It's a great channel.
I did a thing.
YouTube.
And Boy Boy as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's double dipping.
That's true.
I did a things a channel is.
I mean, you also do a little bit of political comedy.
I'll try to mix it in when I'm kind of like a little bit bored with just making something stupid.
I'm like, oh, I'll talk about something.
Like you did the man catchers.
A little bit real.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, pro-police.
Oh, you did the Black Lives Matter one where you show protesters how to survive different.
I mean, it's not very good advice.
I don't think you should make your own bulletproof vest and think you can get shot with an American gun.
Yeah.
Or when you did the school shooting one.
Oh, yeah, great.
That was a good video.
But yeah, anyway, we're going to talk more about some of you guys' adventures.
And also, I'm going to tease an adventure that we're going to go on.