Hasan Piker, Andrea Botez, and Will Neff navigate strained friendships and streaming burnout in a mock couples counseling session. They debate living arrangements amidst Japan travel plans while discussing gaming rivalries and hypothetical boxing matches involving figures like Dave Grohl and Ludwig. The group reflects on Hasan's panic attacks over chaotic Twitch shows and contrasts Ludwig's perceived calm with his actual ferocity, ultimately highlighting the emotional toll of digital content creation on personal relationships. [Automatically generated summary]
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Making Cookies and Allen Wrenches00:14:27
And yet.
And yet.
I'd like to make it clear that's not my recipe, and I've already made like four of them.
I like them.
Oh.
That was nice.
Can I have an Allen wrench?
How do I stop this from rising?
Oh, no, no, no.
Sit down.
Sit down.
I'll handle it.
It's fine.
We're good.
I just got it.
No problem.
This man here's a podcasting professional.
That's right.
Hello.
Hello, hello.
While we're talking as well, so that you can hear her over us as well.
Is that better?
I'm fucking steezy.
I feel like they're only mid because they're crunchy.
They also could use like half a teaspoon more molasses and like one teaspoon of nutmeg.
They also use chocolate chips and regular cookie dough.
Yeah.
I think gingerbread is a cookie dough.
I think gingerbread is a cookie.
Oh, back on my podcast.
He lays claim and ownership.
Yeah, I am so tired of people coming into my inner personal space and going, hey, Will.
We go on the pony.
You stream 12 hours a day, bro.
Anyway, I'd like to introduce our guest of the week.
Will Neff is here.
This is ridiculous.
Can we unpack something really quick?
I think this is important.
We were talking about this in the kitchen, and I think that, Asan, you don't tell Will that you love him enough.
That's true.
Oh, no.
I agree.
And I think he's valid.
And I want you to look at him.
And I want you to tell him how you really feel about him as a friend.
Now, San's the relationship counseling.
On the yard, do you guys have someone who needs to be babied and like told all the time that you love them?
I think it's actually it's me.
I was gonna say, I think it's slime.
Slime will sit there and he'll be like, guys, listen up.
This week, I'm precious still, right?
Yeah, I do.
I need reassurance because Ludwig, as cutie can attest, sometimes is a little closed off.
He is.
And you need to draw out that from him.
The number one conversation Ludwig and I have to have is I say, hey, Lud, just so you know, you do, I need you to ask me every day how I am.
And he's like, oh, okay.
How are you, Will?
There we go.
Fine.
No, Will.
We don't do that here.
We don't try that.
Yeah, yeah.
Good job.
You tell him what you really think now.
I'm fine.
Oh.
How do you really think?
How do you really feel?
I don't know.
There's some really great movies in theaters right now.
Maybe we can go to one someday.
I'm going to go watch Avatar on Sunday.
Avatar!
Spit in my face.
What about the menu or the whale?
I want to see both of them.
And then Frasier is back.
I want to watch Avatar.
You want to see it?
I do.
I definitely want to watch Avatar.
Wow, a squeaky experience.
My dad took me to Jimmy Kimmel and we had to listen to the producer.
The more you talk about it, the worse I'm feeling about my support.
The sad thing about Andrea is she wasn't even born when the first one came out.
That's us.
I was actually 12.
I had a very vivid memory of watching Avatar in theaters when it came out, but I'm guessing it was the second.
Dude, Andre, could you choke a bar?
See, I told you it's going to be hard.
I told you!
Why are we trade?
I'm always the one.
I'm an expert.
No, don't let me shit on Avatar.
Avatar will be fine.
Avatar is going to be great.
It'll be good.
And the first movie was a banger, too.
James Cameron's awesome.
Andrea, as my co-marriage counselor, who do you think is in the wrong here?
What do you think they can do to fix their relationship?
Well, so Hassan did invite Will to Valorant, but he raids Will.
So I think it's even.
Wow.
Yeah, just buy me off.
Okay, I'm interested.
First of all, I did not invite my life.
I have invited.
I'm not repeating what wasn't said in the kitchen.
Okay, I've invited Will to Valorant, but I know that he doesn't like playing Valorant that much.
And the last time I invited you, the last time I invited you, you literally gave like a, I don't know about that man type of fucking answer.
So it led me to believe, okay, Will doesn't want to play Valorant.
He's only doing it for me.
So I'm just not going to invite him.
Oh, I think I was probably midstream.
Yeah, well, that's when I'm playing Valorant, which is why I don't, when I don't ask, that's the reason because you're doing like React content.
Yeah.
When you communication solved the issue, but that's beautiful.
They just had to talk about it.
Okay, but that, but like, we're literally admitting that like I knew what I was doing though.
I would also like more oral sex.
There we go.
Wow.
Gatekeeping it?
Jeez.
What else is lacking in your relationship?
Yeah, you need to work for that one.
Hey, I don't mean to turn this into a real moment, but I'm not ready for that.
Oral sex wasn't the real moment.
Now, here's what I'll say.
Uh-oh.
This life has given me so much.
I cannot believe by fortune to be a streamer.
I make a ton of money.
I get to do very fun things.
But one thing I have lost is my best friend.
My access to Hassan is extremely limited.
The reason I do this podcast is to get a chance to hang out with him.
And in the last 10 or in the last three years of our 10-year friendship, we have now hung out more on stream than we have in person.
That's fair.
That's valid.
That slime has the same problem.
That's just, that's like, oh, you know?
I know exactly what you're going through.
Yeah.
I lost my best friend to streaming too.
Ludwig.
I miss her so much.
Honestly, doing the podcast with Ludwig is the one time I get to actually sit down and talk with him.
And I understand what you're saying, Will.
And that's how it goes sometimes.
And I don't fault you or anyone for that.
It's just some days I'm like, man, I remember the days when we would bribe our way into a nightclub with a pie of pizza.
Yeah, I mean, I just feel like.
I also don't really go out that much anymore.
That's another reason.
That's all true.
Lost his streaming and age.
Is this what's going to happen to my sister and I?
We separate.
It's only going to be for content.
Yeah, you will be the Will in that relationship and you will keep going out and she will not.
Yep.
Are you more of a Will or a Hassan when she's a little bit more?
She's a Will.
Okay, what are you going to deny?
I mean, yeah, I know easily.
Well, Will's a funny thing.
I was definitely more like her when I was her age.
You act like you're 50 years old.
You're like 31.
This body.
How old is Will?
I'll put a lot of minds.
29.
He's older than me.
Oh, he's older than me.
See how surprised she is?
I mean, Hassan just acts like he's like a grandfather.
I mean, that's how I feel.
You know, we're surrounded by children.
Come on, you can back me up on this.
I can back you up, but I don't want to.
But because we're old boomers and balding, we have to stick together.
Excuse me.
Sorry.
We talked about this earlier as well.
Yeah, I was getting roasted.
They're like, yeah, Slim, you look really good, bald.
No, he said that.
I would never say that to a ball.
I would never say that to a bald.
Say a bald like that.
Okay, Hassan, genuine question.
Do you think the reason you feel so aged inside is just because out of everyone, you're streaming the most hours?
Maybe.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
You just worked so hard.
The way I see it, the way I love doing this.
I talked about this recently with a journalist who was interviewing me for something.
Where I basically told him, like, I can shut off everything because streaming requires 120% of my attention.
So like the moment I hit that start streaming button, everything else is quiet and I'm fucking in the zone.
I'm tapped in.
I'm in the zone.
I don't have to worry about anything.
I don't have to worry about like things that are wrong.
You're like me at Disneyland.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mind streaming is yours.
You didn't get your Disneyland.
Yeah, I love it.
I'm built for it.
I love doing it.
I genuinely enjoy it.
I have that like specific kind of mental illness that has made it so much more, so much fun for me.
That's so lucky.
You're lucky.
But because of that, yeah, I do it for eight hours a day, six hours a day.
And then on top of that, I'm doing the podcast and scheduling all that stuff too.
And then, you know, there's other obligations as well.
So I just, I don't have time.
Like, I, it's terrible.
And then I sleep.
And the other thing that makes me feel guilty is when I do get him out, he's miserable.
That's not true.
We're going to go out tonight.
I'm going to be, I'm not going to be.
You're going to be miserable.
No, I'm not.
No, I'm drinking.
When I'm sitting there, that's all the problem.
I'll drink.
I'll drink.
Don't worry.
I promise.
See, slime, fall off the wagon.
Yes.
You know what it is?
No, you drink too.
I don't drink.
What are you talking about?
I don't drink.
Oh, you do.
You do.
What are you talking about?
No, you do.
I've been sober for eight years.
You were not drinking at the chess boxing event?
No.
Dude, I had a drug problem.
Okay, I was going to ask you.
That's completely different.
I've told you this before.
He's just like Ludwig.
This is fun, though.
I'm taking that sweater off.
Even though it looks incredible, it's so hot in your house.
I thought you were just going to shit that you had lunch with me at the chess boxing event.
No, Brother Bear, it was not.
I was walking through some dark shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, it sucks.
Have you ever opened it?
I'm hanging there, bro.
I've never really got into it, but it was Benzo's.
They're fun.
Like Jordan Peterson.
Yeah, I'm the Jordan Peterson.
Like age-appropriate for you.
I only ate meat and I just loved Xanax and Valium.
So it was great.
Oh, I'm glad you're doing it.
I've been for eight years strong.
Yeah.
Again, yes.
You look good, bald.
Good on you for not being fun anymore.
No, I look slime.
I think you carry the yard.
That clipping.
How many episodes of The Yard have you watched?
I've watched a couple.
I like to do my homework.
Right.
You know, we're thinking of a podcast.
I like to see what it's like.
Oh, so you want to see what the goats are doing?
Oh, yeah.
That's why she was watching us.
I'm only saying that.
I'm not going to lie.
I only watched this one because I had like mentally prepared for it, but the yard I watched.
We learned something interesting about the yard.
We learned something very interesting about the yard.
What's up, bro?
Keith and Rill, you've never been a guest.
Oh, yeah.
How does this make you feel?
I hate winning.
Here we go.
Marriage Schoulster, round two.
You know what?
I think they have a lot of options for good guests.
I think they just don't see that I'm a diamond in the rough.
They don't see that.
Is that the only reason you want to join?
Oh, God.
He's shaking his head.
What?
What?
I don't get it.
No.
Wait, I actually don't get it.
I actually don't get it.
Wait.
What are you alluding to?
You, your only reason for wanting to join fear, change the name, change everything.
We will for you because we love you.
Is to beat them?
Yes.
Oh, I don't think we can.
If I've been blatantly.
Okay, okay.
Okay.
I love you too so fucking much.
I really do.
That's fucked up.
I love you so much.
I actually think there's potential.
Tell them, cutie.
Tell them why.
Because we've had some talks about you guys.
No, Listen, we could.
We could do it, boys, together.
We could.
It would just take some time.
And I just don't know.
I don't know if the heart is there.
My heart has always been here.
Bro, you haven't been here.
I'm has been here more than you have.
And like on accident.
But actually, genuine question, like, where do you go?
Bitch!
I just hear your.
Let me give you an example of our scheduling process.
It's bad.
Last podcast we were supposed to do was around the fights.
And Hassan's like, yeah, dude, we'll just do it before the fights.
We don't hear shit from him.
And he's like, yeah, dude, we'll just go to the fight and do it after.
And then he just leaves.
No, because, no, we couldn't do it after that.
How am I supposed to schedule around that?
No, no, no.
You know what?
We're coming back to the relationship issue.
No, look, here's the thing.
Here's the thing, okay?
I've told him I'll live in the house.
That's not true.
I'm moving in.
I will move this.
He's moving faster than I thought.
This is exciting.
What is happening?
Yeah, you see the fear in his eyes?
No, I mean, I'm fine.
Oh, my God.
I'm not ready.
I mean, I'm fine with that.
All right, we're on TV.
I don't think that's it.
Best friends again.
I don't think you need to move into my house and do the podcast.
Farley's coming in, baby.
I think this is the best solution we could come to.
You do not have a say on this.
You can't even control a microphone.
Okay.
What do you mean?
She's got soft skills.
Don't do that.
She knows what she's doing.
She's a marriage counselor.
That's true.
Without me, you would have to be aware of that.
I think the thing, the unique thing about the yard that this podcast could instinctively work on.
Misogyny.
Is they hate women.
No, no.
That's why the yard does better.
Yeah, true.
They attracted it.
They know where our bread is buttered, guys.
Well, it's the continuity.
Watch this.
One month, commit to it.
February.
You move in.
I move in.
One month within the movie.
Why don't we do January?
Why are we waiting until February?
Also, why is it?
Because I need to get my shit in order.
Why is it easy?
Because then it's going to be March.
And you're like, actually, April.
No, guys, I also cover every fucking January, and I'm not going to miss that.
That's fine.
But the issue is, is Hassan and Ludwig are going to Japan in February.
That's true.
And that's going to be an issue.
He's coming to Japan in January.
I'm coming to Japan.
We could do an episode in Japan.
Wow.
I'll be in the middle of the day.
And when we get back, we all move in together.
That's exciting.
Why is everyone moving in together?
You're an asshole.
Shut the fuck up.
Everyone moves in his house.
He's building a set.
I would love that.
We can stream you learning to love my dog.
I love your dog already.
Him.
She has.
She has multiple animals.
He talks about it.
You don't love my dog?
No, I love.
What do you mean?
What?
He looks like a dog hater.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
I love dogs.
What are you talking about?
I don't love dogs.
I just, okay.
So, yeah, we'll get there.
Sure.
I'm a friend to all animals.
I'll do this.
For all you listeners at home, look at me.
Ready to commit.
Okay, I'll put a ring on.
You are talking to me.
I don't wine.
Move in weak.
No, no.
Wait, now Maya is involved.
What's happening?
Continuity?
That's what I mean.
They're doing regular episodes.
I know.
They're doing regular episodes.
I know.
Listen.
Sit your freaking ass down.
Open those big ass ears and listen.
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Jesus Christ.
The truth needs to come out right now.
Body shaming?
What?
I'm sorry.
Your ears are normal size.
What they do is...
I just developed a new insecurity.
I didn't even know I had them.
You could use a couple.
You're all right.
You'd be all right.
Since they're all friends and they all live separate lives and they come together each week, it's the powwow.
They're listening.
You're listening, and you know, two weeks ago, they were looking forward to checks boxing.
They talk about it coming up.
And then it's the day before.
Oh my gosh, they're nervous in that episode.
And then it's the next day it's happened.
So there's continuity with their stories because they're living their lives and they're bringing it together.
A big issue that happens on this podcast is you get derailed by the guest.
You don't treat them like, hey, my new member, Andrea.
You treat her like, hello, Andrea, let's make this about you and let's be a little awkward now.
You're saying we're too giving and we care about our guests too much, whereas the yard doesn't.
Correct.
The yard says to their guests, you are one of us now.
Take your pants off.
You guys are like, all right, fine.
Take your pants off.
I'm wearing the skirt, so dumb.
It's a loophole.
She's beat the game.
Beauty told me to do it.
That's a benefit that they have.
And I think we could get there.
I do.
I think there's hope for us still.
That's saying move-in week.
Move-in week.
One week.
Okay, that sounds insane.
That'd be fun.
We all live together for one week.
You sound like you're not down.
Son of all of you under his roof.
We're making cookies.
Cookies.
We're helping out off.
We're doing fat.
We do politics in the morning.
We watch horror movies at nighttime.
Horror movies.
I hate that.
One week together.
Oh, my God.
It might work if we tell him we can stream 24-7 on your channel.
No, no, no.
We don't have to do all that.
Okay.
We don't have to stream 24-7.
24-7.
I am like.
Will thinks I have autism.
I don't think I have autism.
I have never said that on the record.
But listen, I'll just say this, okay?
I am very particular about like my regimen.
Oh, you're habitual.
I feel like if it breaks, I'll fall apart.
So you don't want to.
And what you're telling me is like terrifying me a little bit.
Like the moment that he said, the moment that he said horror films and you said 24-hour stream, I'm thinking like, okay, but when do I have my unwind time like after streaming?
Because I need to watch like episodes.
That's the horror movie.
Now the whole exercise has come full circle.
Notice who the barrier in the road is.
I think it's going to be a tough sell to tell people of this podcast that I'm the one preventing us from making more content because I've been on every episode.
In your house.
That's true.
I mean, we can do it at a different studio if you want.
Oh, we're going to figure it out.
You know what, guys?
But then we're going to run into limitations with like when we can make scheduling decisions on guests.
We're live at 7.07 right now.
What typically happens at 7?
I stream.
Oh, so anytime that I want to do fear, I have to give up my shit.
It's true.
But sometimes I also, wait, first of all, I also shave off hours from my streaming to do it before or after my stream.
Why don't you have a, do you have an office day?
You need one office day, and that's when you do a podcast.
What the fuck is an office?
Like a day off.
An offline.
Or if you have an offline office.
We're moving in together.
I've made the decision.
Yeah, Will seems to be dead set on this, and I think that's beautiful.
Look, I think that you guys are figuring it out and you're coming together.
And I think you need to have a powwow and you need to put in effort because these things don't work without effort.
And Hassan and I will sleep in a bunk bed.
You see?
In a bunk bed.
And it's got little logs on it.
It's like cam.
Okay.
Shit camp.
That sounds awful.
I'm going to be honest with you.
That'd be a really small thing.
I'm a 31-year-old man.
It's been so many habits that I've developed over the years that it would make me go crazy.
See, okay, I can't tell if you guys are joking or serious because you all have roommates, Caroline Ludwig, and, you know.
Yeah, she's my roommate.
Yeah.
Yeah, Ludwig is her room.
I feel like we're just about time.
I feel like you guys would genuinely be down to Ol Lyft.
But I mean, Hassan.
Yeah, I don't see it.
I would do it for a week.
I would do it for a week.
I do it for a week.
I couldn't do it for more than a week.
We can do it for a week.
No, he's in for a little bit of time.
No, I'm down if it's just going to be a week now.
That's cool.
Except for we're going to change the name.
The real takeaway is that everyone's wanting to try a little harder.
And I think that's beautiful.
Well, I'm also sad because honestly, my goal of this year was to have a very successful female Ran podcast.
And now I'm with boys.
Yeah, but you're running the podcast.
Yeah, you're the female running the podcast.
Oh, boys.
You're hurting the boys into the pen.
Can I still, hypothetically, you know, I just.
We can have the Taylor Swift Power Hour.
But question, would it be an issue if, perchance, I join Fear An full-time?
I'm here every week, no matter what, rain or shine.
Probably late sometimes.
But can I still do whine about it?
I can have two podcasts.
I don't give a fuck.
You want to be Polly?
I have two podcasts.
I think it's bad for the brand to do two.
I think so.
I'm kind of with you too, but I'm just.
It's not as strong.
We're not too.
I don't care about that because obviously I have another podcast with H3H3, but it doesn't care.
You're not special.
You're just another one of his many podcasts.
No, I mean, but this is the best.
This is like my podcast.
You know what I mean?
Like, I see this as like, I see this as like the podcast that I care about.
You know what I mean?
The other one is like.
The other one is just business.
No, the other one is H3H3.
I love them, their family.
But like, they do all the legwork.
You know what I mean?
They do all the hard stuff, like the production, the studio.
It's all up to them.
You know what I mean?
They put in the fucking hours behind the scenes.
And I love that podcast.
But this is, I feel like I'm doing legwork here.
It's different.
Yeah.
It's ultimately a question of who's tricking out who.
Who's in whose stable, if you will?
I don't even know what you're saying.
Are you in H3's stable?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
Ludwig's in your stable.
Yeah.
Well, no, I mean, H3 and I.
No, no, no, no.
H3 and I have a podcast together, though.
Doing the Legwork on Production00:11:46
Like, Ludwig, I'm tricking him out.
Yeah.
It's just business.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If I am nasty little stable, I am the Crixies.
No, he's not in my stable.
We have a podcast together.
Like, it's not the same.
If I'm in the stable, I want to be a pony.
No, that's.
That's not how this works.
There is no, there is no stable if you're like a lot of people.
No, the podcast, we're all partners.
All right.
For an episode of our podcast, I think we are all in agreement that we need to get you back on a horse.
I mean, I'm down.
I don't know what brand she's going to listen.
Professionally.
We're going to put him on a Clyde stable.
Yeah, I think a Clydesdale is our only option.
You see it?
What do you mean?
Who's that one dude with long, luscious hair in the world?
Fabio.
Yeah.
He's like a Turkish Fabio.
You like that?
No.
That episode would absolutely get with Emran.
My haters used to call me Brown Fabio, though, which I always thought was weird because I was like, that's you're complimenting me.
Yeah, that is funny.
But like, they were racist.
So they thought like saying brown Fabio, who ironically is more brown than I am, just by skin complexion.
What did you do with horses?
I used to be a professional show jumper.
What?
Am I saying fucked with right now?
No, no.
Can you imagine that?
No, there's photos of it.
Look up Hassan Piker question and he'll come up on how did you get into jumping for show?
Just, I had my family was much wealthier when I was growing up.
And then, you know, poof, all that went away.
Put him on a horse.
And yeah, they literally were just like, look at that little guy.
I should get him.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Wait, you did this in high school as like the little as a younger one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Was this in Turkey or in Turkey?
That was that was Slime's idea was horse girls.
Yeah, I thought horse girl girls remember what that idea was.
Horse girls are really fast.
That's why Ludwig loves it so much.
Yeah, he loves anything slime though.
He didn't know.
No, he didn't know I thought of that.
Yeah, you were in the Discord group.
Do you two like you guys need to, or do you compete for Ludwig's attention?
No, Slime has the tattoo, so he wins.
Yeah, I have a tattoo of Ludwig's name on my ass.
Like, I've won.
I don't need it.
He's one.
We've already talked about Ludwig's tattoo of yours.
Have you guys ever experimented together sexually?
No, I've seen his wiener a lot and his open butthole.
But who hasn't at this point?
Yeah, I was going to say.
And that just speaks to who.
Does that make you upset that he shared it with so many?
No, because I don't.
I'm not in ownership.
Notice how I'm not asking cutie these questions.
Yeah.
I rank higher.
Yeah, I want to know.
I want to know what your perspective is.
Look, Ludwig, I've told this story before, but the first night I literally ever hung out with him, we were playing Mafia at a house because we all stayed together for his master tournament.
And it was like seven of us, like AZ guys, SoCal guys.
We played Mafia, and he did this thing where if he was a detective, he would show you his balls, basically.
So it's like you wake up in the morning and he knows you're mafia.
Actually, sorry, he was moderating.
And he would show you his balls because he knows you have to open your eyes and look at him.
So I saw his balls before, like, I talked to him pretty much.
Wow.
That's.
Cutie, did you see his balls?
No, I didn't.
No, actually, we know.
We know that he was markedly reserved about showing his balls to cutie at first.
He was otherworld.
Well, it's kind of not his fault because I did friend zone him for quite some time.
I was like, I'm not dating a streamer.
That sounds like an awful idea.
Yeah.
It'll probably lead to people.
You also used to be more intimidating.
What?
I think it was the dark hair.
Yeah, yeah, black hair.
No, your whole personality.
No, I think you were your entire like, I'm a crazy bitch and I'll kill you ex-girlfriend personality on shows that you were appearing on.
Personality, right?
I mean, yeah.
Well, that's all we knew you as, though.
Yeah, I played a bit of a Circe Lannister.
People don't realize how talented I am, actually.
I didn't.
I just thought you were really mean to me.
No, I'm sorry.
I think I was filling a niche on the internet that no one else was brave enough to do.
Right.
What made you transition from that cutie to this cutie, if that makes sense?
Well, so I would only do that on shows.
And the problem was, is I've seen people fail where they would act like a certain way on a show and then they'd go to their own stream and try to maintain it.
But there's no way to maintain that.
So instead, I'd use Austin's platform to drive people to my channel.
And then they just fell in love with me.
That's true.
The Riz was just unbeatable.
Because they would first come in and they'd be like, oh, Bronze Gameplay, they were like, this is my shit.
She's a girl.
Girl of my dreams.
Because they like, they would first come in and be like, wait, you're not mean.
And I'd be like, it's actually very interesting.
I mean, okay, there's not that many strong personas that I remember, but like Minx is an example.
And I feel like on stream, she's pretty similar to persona she played on Lover Host.
So I think that was very smart how you did that.
Thank you.
What was your first impression of cutie?
What was the first time we met, actually?
I mean, it was, how to be on Lover.
I mean, I was probably scared.
Were you on Lover Host?
No way.
I mean, that would have been dating Ludwig at that time.
And she's mean and scary.
I don't feel like, I feel like it was better, actually.
What about your first impression of cutie?
Mine was actually great.
It was her and Ludwig had just started talking.
And I remember at the time I had broken up with somebody.
And it was like, it was fine.
It was just like neutral breakup.
But Ludwig told her that because they were just talking.
And then she got me in edible arrangements like fruit basket.
Just as like a nice, she barely knew me.
I just remember the first time we met.
Fruit baskets are perfect.
Like edible arrangements are perfect because they're like kind of funny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But they're also like, I'll eat a pineapple.
Yeah, I did.
And I was like, this is so nice.
She doesn't even know me.
That was great.
I can be nice.
What about your first impression of Will and myself?
I think it was when we just moved to LA or maybe before that, but that's kind of my first memory.
I think like Will took us out.
We had a great time.
Hassan went to bed at like 10 p.m.
Oh, wow.
That's crazy.
No, no, no.
You guys were very friendly.
And especially like, you know, Hassani's easy to shit on and stuff, but you're actually very nice in person, which is just not what you expect because you're always getting shit on.
So you'd think that you'd be more intense.
Can't hashtag cancel Hassan shit on sex screens.
I just, I don't know.
I mean, it's kind of.
One of my first memories of you was your sister and you invited me to be on a chess dating show.
Do you remember this?
I do.
You were great.
You killed it.
You were too good.
They asked me to be on a chess dating show.
They never mentioned that we would play chess.
You were like, we want you to be on a dating show.
Yes.
You said we want you to be on the table.
I don't want to imagine when it's chess.
It's not implied.
You have to say the word chess.
Yeah, no, I think we just, that's kind of our brand.
We trick people into playing chess, thinking they're doing something more fun.
Sounds awful.
So I get to the dating show, and they're like, okay, you're going to be playing chess now.
And I was like, I've never played chess in my life.
I swear we told you.
So they assure me they're like, don't worry, you'll lose in the first round.
Somehow, I win.
That's exciting.
Because I'm up against someone who's equally as shitty at chess.
Real quick, what's the format?
You didn't put them against IMs or whatever.
He was on a team with another person.
It was like Chasso.
Yes.
That's pretty good.
One person who's actually cracked.
And then I don't remember who the other one was.
But three games of chess later where I'm literally just blindly moving pieces.
I have never felt so naked.
Did you win the game?
He had a team member shouting moves at him and he would make the moves.
Yeah.
And like, yeah, and then I think they threw in like one move, but he did very well considering he had absolutely no idea how to play.
That's so funny.
I really, I thought we included the chess and I was surprised you even said yes.
I can't remember when we met.
I do.
I was very new to streaming and we were just, it was when Pog Champs was starting and like chess was right when the pandemic began and chess was getting viral and we did a hand in brain match with you and Ludwig.
Oh, my sister.
I remember now.
Yeah.
I remember now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I was like, damn, the right women do suck at chess.
Just kidding.
Damn.
I'm pretty good, though.
From the jump, I was like, no, no, remembering that correctly.
You did grind for Pog Champs.
I do remember that.
I was grinding.
She was crushed when she lost.
I cried a little bit.
Damn.
So I remember seeing that and I'm like, she's a fucking gamer.
Because I was like, she's tried really, she's trying really hard.
She's taking your loss card.
That sounds a lot like her gameplay.
Yeah, I literally have a coach in league and everyone.
You have a coach?
I have a coach.
What?
He doesn't shut up.
I know.
Oh, my God.
That's crazy.
Fire the coach.
It's not his fault.
I'll be honest.
But it's not.
Are you just not cool?
You're uncoachable.
Is that what you're saying?
So bad.
Grinding offline.
No, this is my issue is when I play league, I zone out.
I treat it as my zone out, but I would like to be better.
But so the coach will literally be like, you're not listening.
And I'll be like, huh?
Just play support.
And I'm not.
No.
Here's the problem with support.
Is when I first got into league scene, I would go to events and people would be like, oh, do you play support?
Because I'm a girl.
And I was like, fuck that.
It's like playing Peach and Smash.
If you're a girl, everyone assumes you play Peach.
And you're like, fuck you.
I do play Peach and Smash.
It's sad, though, because you kind of fulfilled the meme now, though.
Well, no.
Are you a pick-me league girl?
What does that mean?
You don't know what that means?
No.
It's like when you're like, I'm good.
It's a pejorative thing.
It's not a nice thing.
I was making a joke, but it's like, I'm not like other girls.
I play mid.
I play ADC.
I like playing ADC for the record to my detriment.
If you play Jinx?
Yeah, but if I was a Pick-me girl, I'd play Jungle.
Okay.
Because that's rough and tough.
What's wrong with that?
That's my territory.
That's my shit.
I'm not like the other girls.
I play Jungle.
I am.
Because it's not very big at league than people think I am.
You are good.
That's true.
You guys all play league?
I do not.
I think it's disgusting.
I think it should be banished.
League is, I think.
Not banned.
Banished.
Pound for pound, dollar for dollar, still the best competitive game.
I agree.
That's the dumbest shit anyone's ever said in their life.
Okay.
Okay, you played.
Coming from a smash.
Yeah, I was going to say, you like Smash, though.
I played Melee.
She's great.
Pussies.
Oh, I'm sorry.
What series franchise is that from?
Dude, Smash.
Dude, it's most notable for the smells.
Okay.
Dude, dude, dude, dude, it has nothing.
Shit it all out.
Skin it all out.
I will say, I think Melee is a very good competitive game.
I do.
I really do.
I think it's a very fun game.
But at the highest level, you're essentially breaking the game to be good at it, right?
No.
You just think that.
What's a wave dash?
What's a wave dash?
You literally just slide into the ground.
How?
How do you?
You air dodge into the ground?
You air dodge into the ground.
Yeah.
Is this hard to understand?
Will Neth?
No, it's very easy to understand.
I just think a lot of the mechanics that now are commonplace in Melee were not mechanics that they intended at the inception of the game.
Yeah, and that's because the competition has gotten so high level.
So it's not even like approachable anymore.
No, it's like crack.
You don't get it.
Even bad players can like experience the delicious crack that is in.
I love melee.
I do.
I'm just saying, in terms of balance, being able to go in every time on my computer and just find a decently ranked match, league is infinitely better than me having to bring my fucking GameCube to a tournament.
Some of us sweat socks.
Some of us work for our crack.
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I get it.
There's layer friction and you make a lot of sense.
But man.
And then when I get there, me, who's decent at melee, will get his shit pushed for like two years.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, so that's not a.
Sorry, I'm hardcore.
I'm sorry about it.
Yeah, I mean, yours is mass-produced crack for sure, which is why I think it should be banned and banished.
I also think it's funny.
We're talking about being the best gamer when like you're right here and you're like a high-ranking like fucking chess.
Well, can I ask you, what is your, what are you the best at that isn't chess?
Yeah, no, I'm not good at other games.
No, but like, there's got to be beat that ass, though.
Which is a good segue into what we were supposed to talk about today.
It's okay.
I don't know.
I like hearing your guys' little chat.
You are little gamer chats.
You beat some ass.
We did.
I did beat some ass.
But she's my good friend now.
So we've made amends.
I mean, it was great.
I had six weeks to train for it.
Took it very seriously.
Yeah, we could tell.
Yeah, I knew that.
You had insane cardio.
It was actually shocking.
You, I've never seen this.
You literally did the Street Fighter like warming up stance.
Yeah.
Where you were literally bouncing.
That was my, that's what I had prepared.
But that's insane.
You're not supposed to do that.
You're like literally exhausting yourself for no reason, but you still never got gassed.
I mean, okay, because real, because it's 90 seconds, three rounds.
I knew even by the end of the third round, like I'm not, like, I was sparring with like pro fighters and we do 10 rounds.
Yeah, you're the first time we did like two minutes.
I'm way more than 98 pounds.
But no, I had like, yeah, that honestly, I had prepared to be moving the weight of my feet so I could go in with strong punches.
But since she didn't fight back, that was ineffective.
It was really sick.
But in a professional fight, that's you want to, I mean, you know, I don't look professional, but I'm trying to get that found.
No, you did.
I thought you were.
You were slowly learning.
For six weeks, who are you calling out next?
Who I'm fighting.
Well, I actually have one in the works, but it's really difficult.
So my goal with that chess boxing fight was to like make an impression on people in like the other boxing world.
And like, sorry talking like Misfit's boxing.
It's actually relevant boxing.
No, no, no.
No, chess boxing.
I used to use a leg out.
I want him.
Let me say, chess boxing, especially to the chess community, was like really meaningful to a lot of people.
And I think it was a great event and obviously really entertaining.
But I mean, I wanted a fitness challenge and I didn't have the time to commit to something full-on.
So it was a really good segue.
But 100%, like, obviously the event was a hit.
But I would like to do like a real, just full-on fight.
If you could fight anyone, historical figure, celebrity.
Jesus Christ.
Who would it be?
Who are you taking in the ring?
If I felt nothing, I would fight my sister because I think it'd be the most entertaining.
But I love her too much and I can't.
But I think that would be something.
She's also way too tall.
Do you think you can beat her ass, though, regardless?
I mean, if we weren't related, but of course, she's taller than me.
Yeah, I think the height is an issue.
Yeah, I think Alex walks.
Well, actually, that's not true.
If I think about that, I don't know how much she weighs.
I see that.
But I'm pretty sure the weight difference is the same as me and my next boxing opponent.
We could get with her.
That's like everybody wants me to fight Hassan, and I figured out that he would have to lose 30 pounds and I would have to gain for 50.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that would be...
You'd be looking like Squidward when he found out he likes to be a bad person.
What's the height difference between you guys?
I'm 6'4.
So it's...
You're 6'4.
I guess it's a 6-inch difference, 5-inch difference.
Okay, because my next opponent's like 4 inches, and she has to put on a lot.
But yeah, that's 4 inches taller or shorter?
She's shorter.
Four inches shorter.
Four inches shorter.
Where did he find her?
What the fuck?
What is she?
5'1?
What are you?
I'm 5'6.
She's 5'2.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
And she'd have to put on like 7 pounds.
I'd have to lose like 7.
But it's doable.
But she's like a very...
Oh, I guess it's not formal, so I can talk about it.
But Michelle Curray.
You guys know Michelle Curay?
Oh!
Michelle Carr.
My old BuzzFeed.
Oh, you guys worked at BuzzFeed together.
Michelle Carr.
She's dangerous.
She's dangerous.
Dude, she used to be a professional cyclist.
Oh, yeah, that would be a good one.
She is in insane shape.
She's like a solo try-guy.
I'm not going to lie.
How do you spell her like that?
She might kill me, but I didn't grow out of life.
K-H-A-R-E.
Yeah.
No, she's cool.
She doesn't have to be aware of that.
We've been talking about it.
We haven't put anything in the works, so I'm not leaking anything yet.
Sure.
But she's the girl we're doing.
Yeah, that's my dude.
No, she shouts out.
I mean, her living, she makes YouTube videos where she picks up hobbies at 60%.
Yeah, and she used to do stunt work.
Yeah.
She used to be.
So she's honestly...
Yeah, no, she's really stunt work.
And she's a professional cyclist.
Oh, dude.
Hey, I believe in you, Andrea.
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Yeah, somebody please back me up.
I mean, look, I have the weight advantage.
That's really about it.
I think you're also hungry, and that matters a lot.
I mean, I think we're in similar shape.
Like, funny enough, we went on a hike together.
Which I need to stop befriending all of my boxing opponents because it's counterproductive.
But, like, we went on a hike together, and like, I honestly think we're in pretty similar fitness levels, except I'd have to cut some more pounds.
Who do you hate that you'd want to fight?
Well, they're not anyone.
Got them.
I have.
Hey, welcome to Horse Girls, everyone.
Let's hear Martin Scratch.
I don't hate anybody.
I don't hate anyone.
Just think the controversy.
Not the controversy.
Actually.
Say it.
I don't think she's.
Names.
I don't think she's.
No, no, no.
I'm definitely not going to say anyone I hate.
Say names.
I'll say, I think if women could fight men, I think you'd be really good if I just fought like another one.
It's not illegal.
Chess, you take a look at that.
I like that.
Hikaru or Gotham chess.
You versus Hikaru would be a fight of the century.
Fight of the century.
Maybe I could take him.
I'm front row with a mink on.
But yeah, unfortunately, that can never happen.
That's a good thing.
I feel like Hikaru washes you, though.
I don't know.
I think I have the stamina and then you fight.
Would I fight?
Yes.
In general?
Because you're going to fight.
Dave Grohl.
Dave Grohl.
Why did you come up?
You had that in the chamber.
Why?
Dave Grohl.
That's a new thing.
Who is that?
He's trying to be cool.
He's ubiquitously the best-liked man on the planet.
No, he's not.
The Foo Fighters fucking suck.
No, I know.
I don't disagree with you.
Listen to me.
We got to inform the people at the table who don't know who Dave Grohl is.
I don't even disagree with what you're saying.
I'm shocked that it's.
Former drummer of Nirvana with Kurt Cobain.
And then eventual lead singer.
I was going to say, what's Nirvana?
No, I was going to say that, Hassan.
What do you have against Dave?
Great question, Andre.
Let me start by this.
He has an amazing drumming career.
I play the drums.
You said that sarcastically.
No, I mean it.
He's like, he's been in bands, live shows.
He's been on recordings that are insane.
He's like a very accomplished drummer.
And then he went and made the worst fucking band of all time.
For that, he must go down.
I didn't say this out loud.
He was on Dem Christian Vultures.
If there was a worse answer to who do you want to fight, that is the worst thing.
That is so weird.
Put me in the fucking ring.
That is the most.
There goes my hero.
Watch him as he goes.
He's too white for he's no, no.
Foo fighters ubiquitously suck.
Well, it's it's literally American nickelback, dude.
Thank you.
What's on?
It's American Nickelback, and I agree with everything you're saying.
And I'm still.
I cannot wait to read the comments because you're going to be eating alive.
Yeah.
I'm not going to be eating alive.
You're going to be eating alive.
Real ones, no.
Real ones are no.
No one's ever.
Damn, the guy that toured with Queens and Sonias in 2002 has the shittiest band ever known.
Okay, well, that's crazy.
What about his appearances in Tenacious D as the devil?
Fine, that's great.
He likes to Foo Fighter.
The problem is that the Foo Fighter sucks so bad that he shits all over it.
Delusionally.
I kind of understand why you want to fight Dave Grohl now.
Thank you so much.
I feel valid.
I was surprised.
Even though I was surprised originally.
Who would you guys fight?
Let him cool down.
Who would you fight?
Ben Shapiro.
Oh, you and Ben Shapiro?
That's easy.
That would be a good idea.
The man with Samuel acts like a rabbit.
But that's a good one.
That's a good one.
Be funny.
It's a good one.
I would love to see that.
I'd pay literal, actual, a lot of money to see that great fight.
Even more than like Destiny, I'm trying to think who else would be like your.
Oh, I would never even be around that man.
I guess there's, yeah.
What about you, Cutie?
I'm trying to think.
I really am excited for cuties.
I don't know.
Give us some tea, please.
Claire from Bonapete.
Oh, fuck Claire.
I told you.
I got her for Christmas.
I got her a Claire's dessert person book.
Fucking Claire.
And she was like, this is really nice, but I fucking hate Claire.
I'm like, my fault, OG.
I didn't know OG.
I didn't mean it.
Claire's a bitch.
Why?
John Mayer.
You would fight John Mayer.
I would fight John Mayer.
I think, well, the issue is my brain goes logically.
And I'm like, oh, like, so that was my biggest thing is watching Minks fight in Creator Crash.
Minks and I are very close to the same height, like same height, almost same, like we're within 10 pounds of each other already.
And I was like, I would die.
Which is crazy because I can be very competitive.
Yeah, so I don't.
Alex and I are close in height and size, probably.
Oh, I don't think I could fight Alex.
You are ferocious.
I know.
That's the thing.
I think a lot of people don't realize it's like I would kill someone if I had to.
Like without hesitation.
Don't people realize that.
They say that a lot.
That's pretty much what Andrea said about meeting me for the first time.
I know.
So I think I'm like, oh, maybe I wouldn't be able to do that.
Where did you get the idea?
I wouldn't.
Where did you get the idea that people don't say that about you?
Well, you know.
I think in unison, we're more shocked that you said that you're not ferocious.
I think people think, like, I'm just chill, you know?
No one thinks that.
Where did you get that idea?
What?
Really?
Okay.
Chill is like seven zip shows away from me grips her socks.
That's weird.
People think I'm fucking chill.
For sure.
You know, the only thing that genuinely bought, the only time like a lady, so I can't even say whomst because it would cause drama.
But like ladies that slide on Ludwig, I'll take you in that ring.
That's an easy answer.
I'll take you in two seconds.
That's an easy answer.
Yeah.
Name one.
So anyway.
Hear that bitch out.
I surprised anyone has the balls to slide on Ludwig's knowing you, you are chill.
I'm surprised anyone would slide on Ludwig.
That is me.
I'm kidding.
He's very handsome.
That was a good fucking idea.
I would have to go to the back of Street Fighter.
But yeah, I think he looks like Guile from Street Fighter.
Big ass hair.
Me?
No, no, no.
No, Ludwig.
Oh, I forgot.
Dude, I loved it.
I love that.
Ludwig is so outside of the scope of an athletic person in our minds that he thought you were talking about him.
That's really funny.
He's buff.
No, he's been lifting for a long time.
He's really strong.
We give Ludd too much shit.
Love him.
He gets very upset.
I think Lud is handsome.
He also has the most insane ass of a man.
And a chest hole.
It's in a chest hole.
But everybody's got it.
Who would you fight?
You're the last person.
I mean, good fight, not someone I dislike.
Just someone I'd like to fight.
Shit.
I think Battle of the Internet Good Guys, Markiplier and I.
Oh, wow.
Markiplier would kill you because he has access to like baby blood and like.
But that's the thing is, like, I need to lose that fight for the sake of the nation.
You can't beat Markiplier.
No, bro.
You took him up.
You can cuss Markiplier.
Yeah, that ruins you.
No, that ruins you.
I'd play the people would hate him after that.
This is me and Caroline are close to the same size.
That'd be a good fight.
We could fight.
Someone I dislike that I would fight.
Yeah.
Who could I fight that I dislike?
That would be good.
Amaranth, you hate her.
No.
He just takes her down.
While you're thinking, secret lore was that Will and Myth were supposed to be the big fight.
Yeah, I've talked about this.
Okay, yeah.
Because I remember that way back.
It was like...
I'll talk about this in full.
First of all, that was presented to me by both fighting organizations.
You guys and Creator Clash both both wanted me to fight Ali.
And I sat on it a while and I really didn't want to fight Ali because I love the kid.
And then I talked to Ali and his reflex was like, I'd rather fight someone else.
Oh, interesting.
So we both kind of agreed that we wouldn't want to fight.
Now, I lucked out because little did anybody know Ali was going to fucking turn into Mohammed Einhard Bruce Lee and fucking hit the Ali shuffle having never watched an Ali fight.
Did you hear he's never watched an Ali fight?
Yeah.
That was just him on reflex.
Boom.
Is that the actual boxing shuffle?
I thought he was just a little bit more.
Muhammad Ali used to do a lot of waiting.
I was surprised.
I didn't think it actually helps the box.
It's not.
It's showboating.
Yeah.
It's like taunting.
He did it.
He taunted a lot.
He taunted when he did the swing too.
Also, his opponent was like a last-minute fill.
Like, no offense.
Who had a chin?
She was incredibly dude.
He outperformed.
So that's what I loved.
That's the first part of that.
Now, the second part is Lud came back to me and was like, we'll find you a different opponent.
And I was like, oh, great.
And the day that Lud came back and was like, you have to basically sign your intent was the day I had a panic attack.
And it was the first and only time I've had a panic attack.
And it was because I went into a show that I was supposed to do with Twitch.
And we were a week to air and they didn't have a set and they didn't have costuming and they didn't have any idea and they didn't have any segments.
The only thing that they had done was Twitch.
No way.
So he had an hour of ads against a two-hour show.
Oh, no.
Almost all of them were American Eagle.
And the motto was, I think it was young and fit.
I feel like I looked at them and I was like, what about me?
Says American Eagles.
So I literally, week to air, left this meeting and I had a full-blown like, I can't do this.
I don't have time to do this.
I can't do this.
And I called.
You had a lot going on on the internet.
This is when I had G4.
This is when I was 100 Thieves stuff too.
I was doing a ton of shit.
So I called, I was like, I got to pull out of this.
So 20 minutes after I had that conversation, I got a call from Ludd and he's like, hey, bud, we need you to commit today.
And I'm like, Ludd, I got to be honest with you.
I had a panic attack 20 minutes ago.
I can't commit to this.
Now, he was like, you're dead to me.
No, he was so gracious.
He was so nice.
And, you know, I would be happy to do chess boxing in the future.
You can tell Luddy.
Would you do like Creator Clash if you had an opponent?
If it wasn't Ali.
Dude, you're just afraid and that's cowardly.
I am afraid of Ali, but beyond that, I don't know.
I've always had a very, he knows.
I had like a very weird, almost like, I would call it parasocial attachment to him where like he really does feel like a younger action.
Ali is our child.
No, he's not just our friend.
He's our child.
That's what I'm saying.
He feels like my little brother in so many ways.
It's funny.
I feel the same way about him.
Yeah.
Like, and for me to go in there and just beat the fuck out of him.
That'd be epic.
I see.
Well, I think that makes sense.
He, I mean, the first time he did anything like literally physical was with us during COVID.
Yeah.
And I was like, bro, you have an insane frame.
Like, what the fuck are you doing?
You're just like wasting it playing.
And then he went home and he was like, Cassan just kept talking about my frame and how beautiful it was.
No.
No, at the time, no, at the time, people were like saying, like, oh, that's like weird, dude.
You're saying like a black dude is like genetically gifted.
Like, I was like, no, dude, I know what a fucking athlete looks like.
He's built like Sauce Gardner.
Yeah.
He's like tall and his wingspan.
Lanky.
He has a wingspan of a six foot four person.
Yeah.
Like he is an incredible wingspan.
And also he was like relatively coordinated too, which he demonstrated, I think, on that ring.
Yeah, but that's the full sauce behind the boxing.
I really, I'm going to be honest, it is something that I felt for probably two weeks afterward.
I felt tremendous guilt about having to say no to Ludwig.
Everyone.
Because I ex out.
No, but I've never felt guilty about that.
No, that's exactly that.
Very fair.
That's not me.
I never back out of things.
And I have so much respect for what Ludd does and his product that I was just like, damn, man.
I let him down.
Boo.
No, don't worry.
He's incapable of feeling let down.
No, that's not.
That is not true.
That's not true.
It is hard to get his emotional core, though.
It's getting harder and harder.
Even though he has a chest hole.
What's up?
So the more he moguls up, the harder it is.
Yeah, he's wondering that a lot.
What's up?
I've thought about that a lot.
In general?
About Ludwig, yes.
This is actually, this is literally something I've thought about.
I'm like, he's way too fucking nice.
Like, he is way too.
There's got to be a dark side.
I think, no, I think he's a very nice person.
I love him.
I love him to death.
Beautiful human.
But I'm always like, he can't be this confident.
No, he is.
So way back in the day when he was like, he's like aloof.
It's not aloofness.
He just has like a brain that was kind of built for like, I remember I asked him once, I was like, doesn't it piss you off when like YouTube comments are fucking mean to you?
Like, doesn't that get to you?
He's like, no.
I'm like, how?
He's like, I don't know.
They probably just like want to be my friend.
Like, they're probably really nice in person.
And I'm like, you should have been.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
His mind is literally a fortress built for being big.
It's really interesting.
I've thought about it a lot as someone close to him.
I think I'm on the opposite.
I was built for it in the opposite way because I love seeing the nasty shit.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
I look at it, but I don't like looking at it, but I do look at it.
I look at it so much more.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
No, literally.
I'm like, scab.
Exactly.
Reading TikTok comments is like my new self-harm.
No.
I do it average.
I do it so much.
I do it so much.
Dude, it is like misogynistic, racist, transphobic.
I'm like, what?
Like, they're inventing new phobias over there for me.
I'm like, fucking shit.
I didn't know I had all these things in me, but I love it.
Yeah, I think I'm the same.
I feel like that's just human nature.
Yeah, that's the weird thing about Ludwig is that he's weird because he's like, it's like he's had years of therapy, but he hasn't because it's like something like, oh, I learned about projecting now.
And it's like, well, Slime probably hates Dave Gruhl because he never wrote You Are My Hero.
And Dave Gruhl.
Dave Gruhl is really funny.
Hey, I want to be a good person.
That was a good deflection.
That was cutting.
I have a question I want to ask you.
I think it's a shit song.
It doesn't hurt me.
It's a shit song.
But no, That was a joke.
That was a joke.
But like Ludwig sees the way people are mean or whatever.
And he's just like, yeah, they're just not happy with themselves.
And it literally, like, literally obviously, but yeah, that's what it is.
But it still hurts.
Yeah, but it's just, it's just weird that he's so good at talking himself out of going down any sort of rabbit hole.
Yeah.
I have a question I want to ask about this, but I want to put it behind the paywall because it's a little spicy.
Well, guess what?
It's actually time for that.
Anyway, regardless, thank you guys so much to our wonderful guests.
Thank you for watching, everybody.
Where can people find all of you, please?
You can find me on Botez Live.
I play chess a lot.
I've recently just boxed, had a great fight with her name was Dina.
So you'll see me.
You see me around.
Yeah, she hit you a lot harder than I thought.
Yeah, well, I don't.
She knocked the she knocked the weave right off my head.
Yeah, it's crazy.
What a good one.
Thank you.
Thank you.
No, yeah, the guests today were really great.
I think Will Neff was the guest.
Just gonna load that up.
Okay, all right.
Boxing Dina on Botez Live00:01:05
No, she's got daggers.
I'm Kitisonarla, and I'm not a host of this yet.
She's lying.
Hey, I'm Will Neff.
I've been fucking usurped as a host.
Go follow my YouTube.
And I'm Hassan Piker.
And if you want to check out the more juicy stuff behind the paywall, that is going to be at patreon.com slash fear and so juicy.
Ooh, we are going to get nice with it.
It's like a steak and it's a juicy steak.
Juicy steak.
Are we behind the wall?
See you next time.
Bye.
Bye.
You've got to show you.
You're like, wow, Mike Colin.
That's great.
Like, if it's like one big long log, you've got to share.
I still have to ask, after you refuse to mush the poo, were you dropped from the frat?
No.
He made it in.
Blood swing.
When it pokes out of the water, you've got to shoot.