BBno$ joins Hasan Piker and Will Neff to dissect his mental health strategies, including biometric tracking and ketamine therapy, while analyzing the viral mechanics behind "La La La" and TikTok's algorithmic dominance. The trio debates Kanye West's cultural relevance amidst recent controversies and reflects on gaming history from Diablo 2 to modern streaming dynamics. Ultimately, the conversation highlights how digital platforms now dictate music distribution and celebrity survival, reshaping traditional industry power structures. [Automatically generated summary]
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Vancouver Island Mention00:07:04
I mean, that's one way to go with a bang.
I like definitely.
Dude.
Welcome, everybody.
Yeah.
We're live and we're live.
This is basically, this is like old school timeframe.
We have an incredible, talented guest here today.
You probably might recognize it from my broadcast or from TikTok or.
That's right.
It's Will Neff.
That's me.
Yeah.
Will Neff is here, everybody.
Oh, fuck.
We got.
Oh, no.
We got so glad that you're here, man.
Thank you.
Yeah, we got my co-host, BB No Money, you know, Turkey, Armania Connection repaired.
Yeah.
Welcome to the conflict zone.
That's what we're calling it now.
Conflict?
That's actually a good name for the podcast.
Conflict zone.
Conflict zone.
What's your most inflammatory political take?
Yeah.
You're up so early because you're flying back to Canada, yeah?
No, I just have like two sessions today.
I got to make music.
Oh, okay.
My mental health is drifting and I make music to keep it at bay.
I respect the shit out of that.
I'm the same way with the gym.
Yeah.
It is really, it's like super therapeutic for me.
I think it's completely saved my life for sure.
Yeah.
Your music is giving me a problem.
I was talking about this earlier, but it's like, I wouldn't say it's like a mental health issue, but like I can't stop thinking about lyrics from it.
Do it.
I'm a big bad hunter with the bow.
Every time I think about you, I'm like, oh, like BB No Money is coming over.
Like, what should we talk about?
Or like, you know, he's going to be here at 9 o'clock or 9.30 immediately.
Like, I can't think of anything else.
It's just like, it just keeps repeating it over and over again in my mind until I'm going crazy.
I want to like claw my eyes out.
I mean, it's not even...
So, you know how you were making fun of me for saying bag yesterday?
Yeah.
It's bag.
I'm a big bag hunter with the bow.
And it sounds like bad because I mumble everything, but it sounds like bad because you guys say bad.
How do you guys say bag?
What you've done to the English language is disgusting.
Well, you're welcome, everybody.
That's not how words are supposed to sound.
Okay.
He says bae.
Big.
Bag.
And he says it so proudly.
He's Canadian.
He's from Vancouver.
Vancouverite.
Well, Vancouver is the closest thing.
Vancouver is the warmest place in Canada.
It's the closest pretty much to America.
Doesn't like 75% of Canadian population live like two hours away from the border.
You know that?
Yes, I have heard this.
Yeah, it's like ridiculous.
Because it also happens to be the only habitable place.
Yeah.
It's literally just like not.
Yeah, it's not frozen tundra.
So that's why they live on the border of the United States of America where it's like more livable.
We like to think about those places as like, you know, travel destinations for the winter for your, to go there for like a little bit.
Yeah.
Not livable parts of America.
Because there's some real hardy ass people in Canada.
Like the more north you go, they get tough.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Why are they radically self-reliant?
You know what I mean?
They're living off the grid.
Yeah, they get like your fucking show that you were watching.
Alone?
Yeah.
Wait, isn't that what they do?
They do it in Canada.
They do it.
Yes, they do it.
They literally do it in Canada.
They're on the coast, on the west coast.
I think it is.
What area is that?
Is that Vancouver?
So we go like, whoa.
It's Vancouver Island.
Oh, in Vancouver Island.
Dude, that's not like...
That's not alone, bro.
Vancouver Island's like beautiful.
Like a destiny.
There's a show called Alone.
Have you heard this show?
I haven't heard of it.
There's a show.
It's called Alone.
I think it's on Discover Network.
I think it's pound for pound, the best network TV show.
Yeah, really.
They just drop.
Dude, it is so disrespectful.
First of all, let me explain.
It's insane.
So this show started as like, are you an outdoorsman?
Show us what an outdoorsman you are.
We're going to take you to the middle of ass fuck nowhere.
You get to choose, I think it's like seven things on a list of 20 things that you get to take to survive, nothing else.
And just show us how long you can survive for.
And at first, the idea was you just, it's like it was an opportunity for nature like lovers to get into nature, but there was a cash prize, right?
And then that cash prize.
It's not a lot.
The cash prize kept ramping.
Oh, and then they changed it to you got to make it a hundred days.
What?
But we don't tell you how many other people are in the show still.
So you don't even know if you're winning or not.
And it's just toxic.
It's mental.
These people go crazy.
It's basically like they looked at the concept of like Tom Hanks castaway and they were like, let's not put him on a tropical island.
Let's make this shit cold instead.
Let's make this Canada.
They were like survivor.
Yeah.
They were like, let's do Castaway Canada edition.
Okay.
And one of the most I can do.
They go crazy.
They go crazy.
They go like they want to talk to them.
I only have a camera.
One of the winners of all time is this guy named Sam.
And Sam was on multiple seasons, did not win, but one season he won.
He literally just planted himself and was like, I'm not going to move.
I'm not going to burn any calories.
And he would just eat like a rat every fifth day.
He made it for so long.
How is this long?
No, more popular.
It's incredible TV.
It's on Netflix too.
I think they picked up one of the seasons and then they DMCA'd Will, which is pretty funny.
Retroactively DMCA.
Yeah.
Because history.
Will was watching it non-stop.
Yeah.
Will was watching it non-stop.
And then Netflix was like, yo, this show is sick.
We're going to pick this shit up.
And then they DMCA'd him after they picked it up.
Wow.
Feels so bad.
But so where was this in Victoria Island, which doesn't sound like Billy Ravebrains?
I think it's Vancouver Island, but I think it's like this ultra remote part.
That's like the thing about it.
Like the Wanda Fukia era.
I don't know about that, but the thing about it that makes it so brutal is it's like all rocks.
So like it makes it really hard for anything to grow.
And it's like, it's like all inhospitable.
They do it.
Yeah.
Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Nahuatl, Hawpi, National Park in Argentine, Patagonia, Northern Mongolia.
Bro, I love that Vancouver Island is getting a mention in Northern Mongolia, Mongolia, in the same conversation.
Yeah, Vancouver Island.
It's rugged.
But it's not like that bad.
It's like...
No, because you're from Canada.
No, but you have no understanding to us.
We live.
Look, look, these are houses.
I live in California.
We live in houses, right?
We have shelter.
Pink Panthers Garage00:03:13
It's always 70 degrees.
And we have shelter.
You don't understand this.
You think like, oh, Forest, like, that's where we go to get our bag.
And, you know, this dirty woman in my building last night told me, she's like, it's cold out.
And I said, when I was about to walk my dog and I was like, how cold is it?
She's like, it's like 70 degrees.
I was like, that's California.
That's my woman right there.
She's right.
When it dips below 70, I'm fucking free.
I got sleeves on.
You are wearing a lot of clothing.
I got sleeves on.
I'm cold.
Like, I straight up, I call it beanie season.
It's beanie season all year for you.
Yeah, it is.
But I call it beanie season when it starts getting like 65 degrees in the morning.
Baby No Money, I want to plow forward.
I want to know about Baby No Money.
I want to know about what's going on in your head.
One of the things I want to know, you're an artist.
What's on your deep playlist that people don't know you're listening to?
For me, that's Melissa Etheridge.
Because I'm the only one who'd walk along.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Give me something from there.
Deep rotation.
What are you listening to?
Paramore.
I don't listen to Paramore's Fire, but I don't listen to it.
I only listened to the one song that was popping on TikTok.
That's my deep playlist song.
Recently, I've been really diving into liquid drum and bass.
Yes.
I'm actually going to make a drum and bass album next year.
Yes.
I want to do like jungle and like drum up, jump up.
And like, oh my God.
A bunch of like Belgium producers made a bunch of remixes to my shit.
You just flipped my nips.
Dude, I heard me right now.
So I saw I met this guy called Bruce C and he's from UK, like Nottingham.
And he makes like, you know, it's like liquid and like jump up and shit.
And I saw his live set and it was insane.
I've never seen more energy.
So I was like, all right, bro, like it's happening.
Let me do vocals on it.
Yeah.
I want to do fake vocals.
Dude, why don't I get auto?
You know, Grand Theft Auto Drum and Bass Radio.
I'll get like an interlude from you.
What?
Yeah.
Or something like that.
Like, well, I don't know.
I'll include you guys on it.
But yeah, drum and bass.
Yeah, I've been listening to a lot of drum and bass recently.
It's just so much like, so much flow to it.
You know, it's so relaxing.
And like, it has every type of genre where it's like, it could be really hype or really chill.
And it's also incredibly intricate.
But yeah, I've been listening to a lot of Bruce C and like there's this singer from the UK.
She goes by Piri.
P-I-R-I.
She's kind of like Pink Panthers.
I like Pink Panthers a lot too.
She's dope.
I have absolutely zero under.
I just, I know what drum and bass is as a concept.
I've never heard these people.
Pink Panthers doesn't really make drum and bass, does she?
Well, it's like, it's like Garage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So like what?
Inside, outside.
Garage?
Garage.
Garage.
Did you watch the documentary that Amazon did at like the tail end of lockdown about UK's rave scene?
No, I haven't, but that's probably a lot of ketamine in it.
So much, but it's incredible because they talk about like every DJ who is in the acid house scene and like the original house scene where like kids were going and like mass migrating to warehouses.
Their first inclination was like, how long is this going to last?
Physical Therapist Moves00:15:31
Like a month?
And then like years later?
Yeah, dude, that's incredible.
I love drum and bass.
I love live drum and bass.
One of my favorite performances of all time is I got to see Pendulum, if you've ever heard of that, which is like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's incredible, man.
Yeah.
You just flip my nips.
All right.
Next question.
Moving on.
Ready?
Here you go.
I'm going to blow your mind.
What?
The door handle.
All right, guys.
The door handle broke.
So we're taking a two-second ad break.
And this is sponsored by... Batman.
Batman.
Please give Hassan a million dollars because he needs it.
Yeah.
Desperately.
He called me this morning.
He was like, damn, bro, I'm broke as hell.
I need a million dollars from Batman.
This is my next question.
You have amazing Armenian hair.
Why do you always wear a beanie?
I don't have.
I don't have amazing hair.
You have amazing hair.
I have amazing hair because I don't wash it.
Pop that top off.
Let's talk.
It's also super wet and greasy right now.
We talked about this.
Oh, dude, your whites are coming in on the left side.
It's crazy.
It's the same way that it's coming in for me.
It's crazy, right?
Yeah.
It's kind of sick.
That's not from like the therapy gecko or something.
This is from stress.
How old are you?
27.
27.
You got whites coming in?
I mean, do you sleep well, like genuinely not.
When I was 27.
I think I sleep better now than I uh is.
I got this biometrics tracker shit.
Like is it?
Is it sick?
I don't.
I don't recommend it for anyone, unless you're like an obsessive psycho like I am.
He's laughing, but like um I literally, I literally, I track my sleep, I track my uh like daily.
You know caloric output.
Do you think that's weird at all though, that like I can wake up and I go hmm, I feel good, I got some good sleep, or I feel like shit, I got some bad sleep.
You need to look at your phone.
No no no, even if you feel like you're like you got two, can I take one?
What I don't have two, unfortunately.
I'll buy one.
Send it, send this to me, because I actually this one is.
This one is like not super expensive.
Oh, this one is not super expensive, but the problem is we gotta fight it out.
Thunderdome, baby um, you want this right?
Yeah, unless you want it, you can take it.
I can have like a.
I'll have a sip or two and then, are you not a coffee guy?
I am a coffee guy.
I just like can't when I have too much coffee.
It really real creative juice.
I know that's that's when I started having it nervous.
We'll have the food and break down the paywalled side.
Are you a type a person, type a as in like, very organized, meticulously kept?
I like to think I am relatively organized.
I keep a lot.
I like I don't.
So, let's say, I have a to-do list, or every single day I wake up I write exactly what I'm gonna do that day.
I always get done.
Okay, that's type A wait.
We were, we were talking, we were talking about uh, sleep cycles.
Yeah yeah, I know.
Okay listen listen no, I know when I'm tired, I know when I'm, I know when I'm not tired obviously like, I'm not like crazy yeah um, but what this ends up helping me with is mostly it ends up helping me recognize when I'm being super sedentary and what kind of impact it has on my like.
You stream my calories 10 hours a day, of course yeah, so when I do that no, so when I do that oh, my god, I mean dude, it is helpful uh, it is helpful in like, I have a tracker.
It helps me with calories, absolutely.
That's what I'm fucking with, that with the heart rate.
I mean there's, there's.
There's a few fundamental things of quote being healthy and like, if you can just track half of them it, why not?
Yeah like, like it's.
You are a healthy individual.
I try to be.
Yeah, I definitely was way less healthy back in the day than I am now.
But because the older you get, the more your body starts breaking down.
Like when I was like 22, I didn't give a fuck.
You know what I mean.
I would drink, like I would drink a 30 rack and then have a pizza and then go do like go lift weights in the gym at 6 a.m after.
After doing all of that, like I would have, I'd be running on two hours of sleep, and I did that for many, many years.
And now I feel like if I work out the day prior, like if I have a very strong workout, I usually still work out and wake up at 7 a.m.
Every morning.
I can't.
I slept through my alarm this morning.
My body was like, nah nope, we're going back to sleep.
You're gonna wait until you go to bed, though.
1244 is exactly when I fell asleep.
Really oh, that it tells you.
Yeah, that's the good stuff.
It's kind of sick, Yeah.
That's the good stuff.
So then you slept like eight hours.
Do you sleep full all the way through or do you wake up?
I'm fucking, I am like.
You knock.
I'm like an anime character when I sleep.
Like, you know how like there's some characters that just fucking go, yeah.
Like, and you can't do anything.
You can't wake them up.
That's me.
That's probably because you exercise, though.
Maybe, yeah.
I found like I have way deeper sleeps when I'm like properly exercising on like a regimented regime.
Yeah, I can't wait.
He has a degree in kinesiology.
What's kinesiology?
It's pretty much like intro level medicine where you become like a health practitioner.
Yeah, movement.
Yeah.
A lot of biodynamics.
Yeah, PTs in like Cairo.
Nice.
I was working at a chiropractic clinic like before I went on my first tour.
I was like...
My God, behind the paywall, can you crack something in his body?
I don't want to do that.
Did you crack something in my body?
Also, I...
Cairos are bullshit.
Exactly.
I think, so my belief when I was working at a chiropractic clinic is my belief is, you know how you associate pops with like, oh, wow, that feels good.
Yeah.
Imagine just walking into a room, getting all of your shit popped where you can't do it yourself.
And you're just like, well, shit, I just got, I'm just high on, I'm high on life right now.
So then you want to go back.
So it's literally just an addiction.
But there are like a few of those.
Those poppings are not necessarily relief either.
Yeah, didn't chiropract.
It's not.
It doesn't start with the maintain and massage of beef.
Beef?
Like, like cows, like cattle.
I think that's where chiropractory started.
I think it is a traditional Chinese practice.
I don't know specifically, actually, but it's fake, though.
There are like a few anatomical movements that will help.
If you have a slip, things that you're things that your physical therapist will help.
Things that your physical therapist will tell you to do, stretches or exercises that you need to, the exercises that you need to engage in if you have like pain.
Because I'm a big, I'm a major advocate for not pain avoidance, but pain relief.
And I feel like in America, especially, given the way that Big Pharma works, given the way that like our lobbying structure works, like Americans love pain avoidance and they don't work on pain relief, partially because pain relief is expensive and it takes time out of your day if you're working.
You can't go to the PT all the time.
And a lot of the PT stuff is not covered by insurance.
So it's a really fucked up system.
But I, so I place a lot of emphasis on physical therapy and personal training in general because, you know, that's the only way to fucking fix shit.
Chiropractors can engage in some of that, but a lot of that is just like, you know, bullshit.
Well, I mean, like, my one, when I was working at these places, like everyone, it's interesting because like all the information is online, like legit.
Like if you, if you could like self-diagnose pretty relatively well for the majority of the time, and then you can look at a YouTube video of like five stretches and five like movements that will help you regain quote mobility or strength in that general area in your body.
You can do it.
But the thing is, no one fucking does it.
Yeah.
They expect, they expect their practitioner to like do it for them and fix them.
And it never fucking does anything.
I saw someone.
You have to do it at home.
Yeah, you have to do it.
I mean, I used to be an athlete.
So like I had my swimmer.
So my shoulders are fucked.
And I would always do my exercises.
And the only thing my physical therapist, who was like the main coach at University of British Columbia, is like the main PT there.
He would always be like, don't come in if you haven't done it.
I don't want to see you because I'm going to know if you haven't done it.
You just won't be able, you won't be strong enough.
And, you know, there was like a few, a few movements that like, that's all you had to do.
It was just like fix everything.
So it's cool because I know a little bit about it and I know like the you know the need.
You gotta you gotta do your stretches.
And sometimes when my homies are like down cupping, what have you ever done cupping?
I don't really believe in it that much.
Have you done IMS?
What have you done intramuscular stimulation?
Like the zapping?
No, no, needling, like dry needling.
Oh, I haven't done the dry needling.
I've done cupping.
I've done like chiropractor shit, obviously, which I most of it was against my will for the most part.
Like where you're like, I don't want to offend these people.
Like I'm on camera.
Sure, I'll do it.
You know what I mean?
And the guy's like, I'm a chiropractor.
I'm like, fuck.
I thought you were a person.
Like, I thought you were a fucking physical therapist and shit.
But I've done cupping.
I have done when I was doing PT for my knee.
I did a lot of electro.
Is it called the Tems machine?
Yeah, the TEMS.
The TEMS machine?
That shit works.
That is actually fucking work.
Yeah.
It just increases the blood flow in the region.
Yeah.
Like, which is key.
So that I've done.
I've obviously done all the fucking PT work and stuff.
Dude, trust me, I am a firm believer that IMS is like the most effective way to fix it.
They just doodle shit.
So think of it this way.
You know what?
You said you like picking scabs, right?
Yeah.
You're going to love this shit, dude.
Think about picking a scab that has been building up for 15 years deep inside your body that you cannot touch.
Dude, you are selling me on this.
It is, dude.
It is the best.
I've never done anything that is more effective.
So it's like acupuncture?
So they take the needle, the acupuncture needle, and they thread it through the muscle and the scar tissue.
It hurts like a bitch.
But it's like, dude, it's so good.
Like, I cry.
I remember the first time I cried like horrendously.
To be fair, I almost cry when I got a full body sports massage for the first time in my life.
Oh, you're going to love dude.
That sounds unspeakably.
That sounds like something out of hellraiser.
It's amazing.
We have such science to show you.
It sounds like...
We're going to rehab your muscles.
And then what they do is when they thread it, they thread it, they thread it.
So they like break the scar tissue.
So obviously what happens is your brain is like, oh, I'm going to send a ton of blood and a ton of nutrients to this place because I got to.
And then they grab like an electrode and they put it on the needle and they just reset the nerve.
So what is that re reset?
I'm not a fucking Game Boy cartridge.
So neurons in the general vicinity of like where you might have pain might be blocked because of the scar tissue.
So and if it's sending more signals to that area, they're going to be like, oh shit, we got to really repair this area.
What the fuck?
Dude, is this new?
What the fuck?
No, man.
It's like a, I think it's an ancient German practice.
No, it's not new.
No one wants to get a fucking lightning rod stuck in their mouth.
Everyone wants it.
There's different types of pain.
Everyone wants it?
Dog, you have been blessed to not have like genuinely fucking life-altering injuries.
I could totally see it.
I have no ACL or MCL on my right side.
Okay, but.
Wait, what?
That's crazy.
Wait, how do you fucking do cups?
How do you walk?
How do you just different?
There's no shot.
We play basketball.
Did you have full reconstruction or was it like nothing?
You know, you know, you're like, when you don't have those two or like when you tear them, like you, you're actually like open.
You can go get reconstruction surgery on that.
I'm good.
That's insane.
I mean, I'm insane as well.
Like, I, when I, when I destroyed my kneecap, when I, um, um, what do you, what the fuck?
What do you say?
What's the word?
Pursitis?
No, my patella, like, dislocated.
Okay.
Uh, when I did that, um, the uh fuck, I'm literally forgetting words right now.
I don't know what's happening.
It's way too early.
Anyway, I basically had a ping pong sized piece, like the cartilage ripped off a piece of the bone.
So I had a ping pong sized bone inside of my knee for like many, many years, for like three, four years.
And I worked out with it.
I hit all my PRs with it.
I was in my best shape of my life with it.
And then one day when I was playing basketball, that shit got stuck under my knee and it locked my knee.
Like it couldn't, I couldn't move my knee.
I was like, what the fuck is going on?
And then I like, I would have to wiggle it.
I literally, do you remember?
Wiggler.
I don't know if you remember this.
Like, I would literally take the bone from inside of my knee and move it around and like shift it back into position so it didn't get in the way.
So I did that for many, many years.
I'm a freak.
But having said that, I totally understand how someone would do that level of therapy to be able to like, you know, finally get rid of something that's been haunting them for the rest of their lives.
At this point, like whenever I get off a long tour, I go get this treatment.
What hurts?
Where do you have pain?
Dude, my whole body is just mangled.
Like I have constant neck pain, constant like trap pain.
That's interesting.
Like QL.
My QL is just ruined on my right side all the fucking time.
Okay.
Really bad knees.
But then you know what it is.
If your QL is ruined on your right side every single time, that means it's either your hip flexors or it's your legs.
Yeah.
Well, so I'm always stretching my quads.
And it's a puller, like a lever system, right?
The whole body.
Yeah.
But dude, trust me, if you've, I'm surprised you've never had this shit.
Every single person that I've ever played like rugby with or like high-end like some Canadian shit.
You played rugby?
Yeah.
So I played rugby and I broke my back.
Oh, dude.
That was like, I used to be a competitive swimmer and my dad was like, don't play rugby.
And I wanted to be the boy with the boys.
And I was lifting a ton of weights.
And then I played rugby and I broke my back.
I was like, playing rugby more than anything else in my life.
Rugby is brutal.
Amazing sport.
What do you do that's strenuous during tour though?
Like muscle-wise?
Oh, dude, I'm like, I'm jumping like a ton.
You're jumping a ton.
It's wear and tear for sure.
I try to be like...
You know, the more energized you are on stage, the more energized the crowd will be.
They're like, it's a direct reciprocation of how much energy you have.
So I try to go as crazy as I can.
And, you know, I got like flat feet.
So I have art supports.
That's not good.
I have to wear like runners or else my knees blow out because I used to be like a fixed gear cyclist.
And yeah, I used to be like the hippiest of stirs.
Dude, you are such a fucking hipster.
When you said drum and bass, I immediately, I pictured you like with dreads.
I can see you.
Okay, okay.
It's not that far.
I can see you.
This is more like the ketamine, the ketamine and like bro drum and bass rather than the yeah.
Addison Ray Drama00:08:41
Yeah, no cultural appropriation.
Are you big on ketamine?
I did it recently.
Okay.
Did you like it?
It was interesting because usually.
Holy shit.
Okay, well, that segues.
I got to check my phone because I got like 90 vibrations.
Something must be happening here.
Just explode.
It's so weird because it's only Will that this happens to.
I mean, it's so crazy.
Do be like that.
And the wild part is like, he'll be sitting there and that one explodes.
He'll be sitting here and this one explodes.
It's so strange.
It must be.
I don't know what it's for, though.
Well, job, man.
Hey, I gave us a break.
But yeah, kidding me, it's interesting, man.
It's not something I would do all the time, but the one thing I actually liked about it is there was like no negative side effect.
Usually like you do a drug and you're born, but like I was, I like didn't even sleep that night and I got on a plane the next morning.
I was like in a giddy mood.
I was like feeling good.
And I know that there's like tons and tons and tons of research going into ketamine therapy right now.
Oh yeah.
I actually have a friend that did it and said that like her life completely changed.
Ketamine and psilocybin are the big ones right now that everybody's.
I'm glad that people are moving more towards like a you know more utilizing drugs in just hold it.
Just hold it.
It's hard.
Man, the mosquitoes here this year in LA have been insane.
Have you guys noticed that?
Mosquitoes.
What else do you call them?
No, I'm just saying I haven't had much, if any, I have been bitten alive since I've been here.
Really?
Yeah, like brutally.
You're from Vancouver.
I feel like you have big time mosquitoes on.
No, no, they're not that bad in Vancouver.
Because we're right on the coast, so it gets kind of blown away.
But damn.
I just won't touch it.
That's a lie.
You're definitely going to be.
You're not going to touch it.
You're going to yank it like you always do.
Coming out real hard and real strongly.
Yeah, it's kind of dope.
Okay.
All right.
Be good.
This looks dangerous.
Anyway.
But it's cousin Dangeroo.
Okay.
Should be fine for now.
Yeah.
Just don't like move this base.
Fuck, what were we talking about?
Oh, ketamine.
Therapy.
Ketamine therapy.
Yeah.
That's what I heard from.
I mean, well, I had an ex who was doing ketamine therapy.
Don't know if it worked, but other than that, I remember like I was hooking up with this like aesthetician, like beautician or whatever.
And she said, like, all the doctors love doing ket because like, I guess it's hard to overdose on it or something.
I feel like we're talking about some really dangerous concepts right now without doing enough research.
Marsh, you tell us.
Marsh.
No, you do ketamine, right?
No, I mean, I'm going to be honest.
I feel like you don't have to be an expert to talk about something.
You can, you know, I mean, like, do ketamine.
Yeah, it's not Rogan to do ketamine.
I just said like my experience was not negative, and I don't feel all we can say is eyeball test ketamine stock on the rise.
Definitely, definitely on the rise.
Ketamine?
It's been on the rise for a minute.
I just, I've never been a downer guy.
I'm always an upper guy.
I totally, I totally agree.
I like, I way prefer uppers, but I except for alcohol, which operates like an upper for me.
Can we demyth this?
Is tequila an actual upper?
Yeah, we can look on the internet, but I think because it's a gawe.
Yeah, because it's cactus.
Yeah, it's a stimulant.
Yeah.
It's a narcotic.
It stems you up.
Here we go.
Myth seven.
It would be surprising if it was actually like unique.
Well, it definitely makes you feel unique.
Yeah.
Dude, like what I used to do back when I was in like the rugby era before I broke my back, I would do like pre-workout chase with tequila and that shit ends.
All my clothing is off.
It's called being 20 years old.
Pre-workout and booze was a movie.
It was a magical combination.
I used to buy something called Carlo Rossi, which was like a jug of very cheap Italian wine.
And I was slinking.
But I would drink like half of it.
And then my friends would put raspberry champagne, EverClear, and fucking pre-workout in it.
And we would yank that around.
And yes, there you go.
That's a girl Ross.
Bro, there's no way.
We are so we are so nasty with the shit that we do our body.
Dude, we would get absolutely mangled.
Livid.
You ever tried Jack 3D?
Greatest pre-workout.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Greatest pre-workout of all time.
They discontinued.
May or may not have had steroids in it.
That's fine.
Dude, I was so brawlic on Jack 3D.
I was like, my face would get like, my face would have like pins and pricks when I took it.
That's beta-alanine.
Yeah.
I used to take beta-alanine when I would like cycle and do a lot of cardio because it like a triathlete.
Dude, I was like really, really into just exercising.
What happened?
I fell off, bro.
That's what happened.
I'm just messing with it.
The thing that's sick is like, you know, hypothetically in a world, if Creator Clash is like, yo, fight Gravy, dude.
And if I'm daddy, you think you could rock Gravy's shit?
He's so much taller.
It doesn't matter, bro.
The thing is, is I'm an athlete.
Matt, not an athlete.
Cut this promo right now.
Cut this.
We can make it right now.
I mean, we can make it, but like, he fights people.
He takes pride.
He's always like, you know, I'm going to fight this guy.
Wait, really?
Yeah, like, he's beating people up.
You want to fight Addison Ray's dad, though?
Yeah, but okay, he would probably get his ass beat by Addison Ray's dad.
That guy was doing tons.
Seems like he coked out.
Yeah.
When did Gravy fight Addison?
What the fuck, bro?
You missed the whole month.
You were unaware of the TikTok shit that's popping off.
Hell yeah.
Young Gravy.
Here, I'll give you the short and sweet of it, okay?
I'll give you the skinny.
Young Gravy, okay?
Young Gravy, known as a designated MILF hunter, all of a sudden doesn't look as Amish as he once did because he starts growing a mustache.
Ladies love that shit.
He's the big MILF hunter on TikTok.
Boom.
Young Gravy has this girl in Hoboken or something that he's hooking up with.
Addison Ray's father is like a TikToker now.
So is Addison Ray's mother.
Addison Ray's father hangs out with the girl that Young Gravy was supposed to be hanging out with.
There's a little bit of drama, I think.
You can fix that part if I'm saying something wrong about it.
Then Young Gravy hooks up with Addison Ray's mom, takes Addison Ray's mom to the fucking red carpet for one of these award shows that TikTokers go to.
Type.
Okay.
Addison Ray's dad is like, hey, what are you doing?
I'm from fucking New Jersey.
How you doing over here?
What fuck you up, motherfucker?
He's the most like, I think he's, he's Hispanic, but like, he's the most Italian Mexican person you've ever met in your entire life.
Anyway, so he's like, he's like, you know, being Uncle Paulie Guido trying to fuck Young Gravy up.
Young Gravy says, nah, dog, I'm fucking your wife instead.
Boom.
That's it.
That's the end of the story.
That's pretty good.
I mean, it was interesting because I was just like, you know, Matt always has a lot of things that just like happen to him.
And I was like, dude, you can't make this shit up.
Like, you just can't.
Did I do a good...
I don't know how necessarily they reached to the epicenter of let's get together type thing.
I don't know where that came from, really.
Young Gravy's, not young gravy, sorry, Addison Ray's mom was like straight up throwing daggers at young gravy.
She was like, she did the Martha Stewart, like where she had like nothing underneath her fucking, I mean, she's hot.
Like Addison Ray's mom, sexy.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, absolutely.
I find it, I just find it interesting that like, dude, I was just watching all this unfold and I was like, bro, you can't make this shit up.
And then like the, yeah, the Monty video, I was like, bro, this is.
How is someone of like past 50 years of age behaving this way?
Behaving.
I was like, surely.
It breaks people's body.
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Surely.
But like, dude, I was like, this is bad.
It got to his head.
This is bad for society.
This should not be happening.
Got to his head in a really bad way where he started behaving.
That goes 12-year-old.
Yeah.
It's not good.
Not good at all.
Okay.
On the paywall portion of this broadcast, we're going to give something.
We're going to put something in your mouth that you're going to like.
Don't worry.
You got to trust me on this.
Sure.
I've put things in your mouth that you've enjoyed so far.
There's been a lot.
He's a big foodie guy.
I want to introduce you to one of my favorite.
I got a question.
Do you think that right now there's going to be a rush on Yeezys?
And in 10 years, Yeezys are going to be like unopened Pokemon booster packs.
Like, if you can get a pair of those mint Yeezys, it's almost like Nazi gold.
You know what I mean?
It's like was there a rush on Nazi?
I hope not.
Nazi commemorables?
People go crazy for that shit on the internet.
You know this.
You know, people are collecting all that shit.
Not me.
I feel like people.
I feel like, didn't, didn't Kanye get kind of like dropped by Yeezy a little bit?
Dude, it's done.
$250 million.
Blipped out of the damn daddy.
Adidas just dropped him as a few years.
Well, I mean, and then in that case, then I don't know.
Maybe it'll be like, this is the era of when he completely lost his mind.
So it's like, let's buy the lost mind shoe.
We already had to be the last shoe.
We already have something to point to with respect to this.
It's the Red Octobers.
Nike Red October is the only time that Kanye has ever collaborated with Nike, and those shoes are like fucking 13 grand.
That's literally like the red super boosts, right?
Yeah, that is like, yeah.
So they're 13 grand.
It's more than crazy.
They're crazy.
Are you guys shoeies?
In college, I was.
And then all of a sudden.
They're not really that dope.
Would you wear those as on?
No.
No, but in 2008.
Yeah, that shit is the glasses with the slash.
Yeah, with the hater shades, the stunner shades.
Yeah.
It says 230,000?
Yeah.
So do you guys think he's going to be able to make shoes somewhere else?
I'm a firm believer that no matter how anti-Semitic you get, if you're fucking pumping out that good shit, people are going to always work with you.
But is he popular?
You can kill people and still get away with it if you're fucking if you can run a, you know, if you can run the 40 or whatever.
I do think the fundamental of Kanye is kind of no longer as prominent because his music, like, but Dondo was not that good.
Thank you.
That is exactly my point.
Dondo, you never get canceled.
You just, your output is.
I think like the last three albums were kind of.
Oof.
The one from fucking.
But the thing is, is like, we are also, like, if you look at Donda and you're like, if Baby No Money made Dondo, he dropped that shit, he would be ginormous.
You know what I mean?
Like, so you're looking with like the precursor, the thought of like, oh, this guy might be like one of the best musicians.
Because right now you're like, right now you're like uny are unrecognized Ricky Rubio in the Spanish league.
Okay.
And like, of course, we're not expecting LeBron output from you.
Yeah.
But like, yeah, we're, we're weighing Kanye on the LeBron level of music.
Yeah.
And if LeBron is not getting triple doubles and all of a sudden he has a game where like they're getting fucking owned and he's dropping, you know, 10 points max.
You're like, that's crazy.
You listen to Dark Twisted Fantasy and you're like, damn.
Yeah.
I just re-listened to that shit like a month ago.
And I was like, damn, man.
My music sucks ball.
But Donda is still great.
It's good.
Great album.
If he just cut some of the mid-tracks, it would have been, it would have been a classic, in my opinion.
So, does Kanye ever come back from this?
Can Kanye rectify his situation or is he forever a maniac?
100%.
I do.
Well, it's interesting because he is like a type of guy that like, dude, he's culture.
Like, it's, it's fucked.
Like, anything he does immediately becomes like what is popular.
And now we're moving on to like a very dark era of culture that was kind of culture in 1938.
Yeah.
Anti-Semitism.
Yeah.
And it's like, I don't know.
I mean, like, did you see the people on the over?
Oh, I saw that.
The sign that just said, Kanye is right about the Jews.
Yeah.
Like, aside from, you know, anti-Semitism aside, obviously, and like what that means, these are some of the biggest like dweeb lords that he's like hyping up.
You know what I mean?
He's like, yeah, these guys are so sick.
And it's like a dude with a fucking Kekistan flag who's like, I'm a Groyper.
It's like, bro, you're a 35-year-old who's still living with her parents and you don't have a job.
Shut the fuck up.
You are not the superior race.
You are not the master race.
You're hanging on by a threat.
I'm going to take a, I'm going to take a counterpoint.
I think Kanye is done.
And not just on Twitch.
No, I actually think I think Kanye is done.
Oh, wait.
I forgot to say that.
I don't forget this music.
I think his stands will forever, whatever he does, they'll still be like, yeah, he made graduation away everything.
Right.
And I think even some of his hardline stands, though, have had to reevaluate their relationship with him as a creator.
And I don't know, man.
I think listening to the one portion of his incoherent rantings that really made me realize the dude is just like a paranoid.
Schizophrenic is when he was talking about like a femur to a dinosaur, where he was like he was talking about like the George Floyd situation and basically was like trying to insinuate that George Floyd was like a plant or yeah, something.
He said that multiple times, which is like deeply, just at its core, the most anti-black you can.
I just don't know how anyone can still justify what do you think his reasoning is behind this.
Is it just because he's just like i've known?
I've known, I I talked about this a little bit.
I've known about this since 2018 where, like he was having significant episodes and attacks.
Uh I, I had a friend who was on a trip, who was on a trip with him in Uganda, where that's the first time I ever heard about him talking about Black Israelite stuff and like being openly and deeply Anti-semitic.
I think he fired like his entire security detail.
There too, he was.
He had a massive attack there.
Um, I think that it's a combination of his insane narcissism, his massive ego and his you know, manic episodes where he has no one to check him, like he has no one to check him.
He has a god complex.
He has no one to check him.
He's pushed everyone aside.
That has like ever been in his life for a very long time.
That that could be like yo yeah, you got to chill, you're going crazy right to like Level, to reason with them, to like anchor him, to bring him, uh, you know, down to reality.
So, in those manic episodes, I think he has like found black Israelite theories and has genuinely believed it.
And Candace Owens also is another person he linked up with that like gave him the anti-black proportion of everything that's going on because Candace Owens has like a really unique take.
Uh, but I mean, Kanye West is basically like advocating for a weird anti-black black supremacist attitude, which is strange.
You know what I mean?
He's got pieces of Candace Owens, and then he's got pieces of like Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas in there.
No, seriously, like Clarence Thomas, I think, is probably the closest to Kanye West with respect to current Kanye West ideology.
Not that Clarence Thomas is a is a black Hebrew Israelite.
Um, he's not, but he is like a very anti-black, black separationist kind of baby no money.
I have a hypothetical question for you: you are locked in a padded room, and you have to smoke crack with either Kanye West or Ezra Miller and survive the next 24 hours.
Who do you choose?
I mean, definitely Kanye West.
Yeah, like Ezra's at you before the crack, right?
Ezra's probably gonna bite you.
He's the Flash, right?
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Yeah, yeah, they.
Dude, they though.
Yeah, my apologies.
So, yeah, my fucking there was like a weird GoFundMe for me to replace Ezra Miller as the Flash.
Bro, you better not even mention that.
They're coming for you, motherfucker.
They're going to be like, oh, yeah, you want to be the Flash?
Before you know it, you wake up one night.
They're literally with the talons.
They're standing.
They're perched up on your fucking bed like slowly becoming the Baba duck.
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely Kanye.
Also, like, if we're on crack, like he's all like, he's already saying crazy shit.
Like, we can just say crazy shit together.
We should power up.
I like you as the flash.
I like you as Barry Allen.
I'd be down.
That sounds like a bag.
Sounds like a bag.
Big.
Bag, huh?
You got to fix that before you become the flash.
Ain't nobody letting you fucking be the flash if you're going to say that.
What's up with the big?
Where's the big?
I'm the flash.
I don't know.
How did that come to?
Yeah, how did you get associated with being Barry Allen?
I have no idea.
I saw some tweet and there were people actually voting and trying to go fund this project hypothetical.
And I was like, it was me.
You know, I was like, you know, in reality, it sounds like, it sounds like a lot of money.
So I would love to do it.
Yeah.
Respect.
Respect.
What hero would you play if you could play a hero?
If I could play a hero, what hero would I play?
I mean, dude, I am the exact opposite of this person, but like I grew up with a major affinity for Wolver Xavier.
No.
Charles Xavier.
Yeah, that's hilarious.
You can't be saying that.
You've been taking Pro Peace as his eighth grade, Mother Mark.
You said the exact opposite.
I was trying to do the exact opposite.
No, Wolverine, because like, I'm just as hairy, but like, he's supposed to be like a little guy, right?
Yeah, he's supposed to kind of be.
Well, he's a Canadian.
He is.
Is he?
Yeah.
Hugh Jackman.
No.
No, no, no.
Hugh Jackman is Australian.
Wolverine, the character, is.
Oh, it's just like, it's a Canadian.
There's like a Canadian Avengers called X-Force, I think, that he basically fronts.
Oh, interesting.
I did not know that.
It's him, a guy named Puck.
I've read, I've read, yeah, and his enemy Sabertooth, I think, also might be Canadian.
Gotta be, gotta be a northerner.
Yeah.
But Wolverine is like, I read the OG Wolverine comics where he goes to like Japan.
He like travels the world and he's like... Lady Death Strike.
Yeah, he's just like fucking he's just like fucking dudes up.
He's like killing Yakuza members and shit like as a as a kid I was like dude that'd be so sick if I had like super natural healing.
Yeah, are you a nerd at all?
Do you oh dude, yeah, I mean I I'm less like Marvel DC world.
I'm more just like I played a shit ton of Blizzard games.
I grew up my first video guy I played Diablo 1 when I was like four and then I played Diablo 2 and I was goaded at Diablo 2.
Like I played I played hours and then are you ready for four?
Dude, I am definitely I.
So I usually tell my agent I'm like yo, like I need time off, like I can't, I need to be at home, like it's like, it's like it's in my blood like, have you seen my website?
Yo, pull my website up real quick.
His website Billy, can you pull that website up?
Just type in BBNO.
And while he's pulling up the website, I'll give you his nerd creds.
Like, first of all, he's a soda pop and viewer, like he was a Twitch viewer for a very long time.
Oh, you got the Diablo Fun.
Yeah yeah okay, we're raiding together, you and I. Dude, when it comes out, let's hit it hard.
Did you play Diablo 2 Remake?
Yeah, obviously I played it because I had so my girlfriend that time.
We were, we were.
This was my last day before tour.
I was about to go on tour and I was like look, I'm not talking to you this day, I have to play Diablo.
Like that's why, that's why she's your ex now.
Sorry, she was like this is the final draw uh, but but yeah, it was like it was super fun.
I, on tour, I leveled up every single class to like 80 single player by myself.
So I Diablo One was like the game that got me into gaming.
Yeah 100, I will never forget, like I never played a game like that.
You ever dupe, dupe in it, picking up one item while juggling.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah um, but just walking into that room and having the butcher come out and be like fresh me dude, I was like it was so terrifying.
Back then I was legitimately like four years old when I was playing and uh yeah, it's.
You know gaming, gaming I don't think is as like good as it used to be.
No, in my opinion, Diablo 2 is actually dude.
It won best year or best game, best game of the year two years in a row it's.
So that's how good that game was back then.
Like it was so ahead of me.
Lord Of Destruction, no, it won for the Original.
It won like in two 29.
Uh 1999, it won Diablo and then Lord Of Destruction came out in like two 2001.
He's such a nerd that the people that he reached out when he came out with La La La La, which you've heard yes um well, one of the people he reached out was s fan.
Wow yeah, he dm'd s fan on instagram.
I'm a wild frog, so i've known that like years of time.
Another person that he reached out which we found out was Pokeman.
Wow and uh, when I heard this I was like well, Iman is a good friend of mine, i'm gonna put you on blast.
So he showed us the dm.
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Um, we can, I can, I mean show it to you here.
I thought the riz was a little bit rizzier.
Yeah, where I, I guess I did.
I guess I did delete it.
So I sent out a message to a bunch of like twitch streamers and content creators being like, Did you give her the nectar?
Did you try and like slide?
And then no, no, no.
Lightly.
A little bit.
Oh, he slid.
He slid.
But sometimes you slide and you go a little bit.
She DMed me yesterday.
She DMed me yesterday.
I sent the selfie with.
I was like, you know, yeah, a little bit.
No, he did that.
He went, hey, gamer.
Check out this loot.
But I mean, trying to do some rates?
Yeah.
Look, I mean...
I'll make deal with what I got, I guess.
But yeah.
Maximum nectar.
Yeah, the maximum nectar.
She's not your friend.
That's why we're not like ripping on you.
No, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
But he said, hey, gamer.
And then he sent the same thing that he had sent to everyone, which was like, hey, you know, I have a song coming out called La La La.
I think it's going to pop off.
You can play it without no copyright.
You know what I mean?
That sort of thing.
He took the, he unsent that, but I told, I sent it to her.
I was like, this is what he said.
You fucking left him on red, but now you guys are friends.
Yeah.
Oh, nice.
There you go.
Yeah, it's cool.
Yeah.
It's just weird that you didn't send it to either of us.
Yeah.
And I, and I know, and I know your co-producer.
He didn't even send it.
It's my stomach.
Well, well, look, guys, next time.
Yeah.
You could try and riz me out next time.
Yeah.
Give us the glitch.
Yeah.
I mean, next time I think I got a hit, I'll send it to you guys.
See what happens now.
Fuck yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, good thing you didn't hit us up because that shit popped off.
If you hit us up, maybe it wouldn't have okay.
Dude, yeah, I remember I was just like, I have to do literally everything.
I would spend like 12 hours a day like coming up with ideas of how to get this song more popping.
Did you feel like you had a hit on your hands when la la la came out?
So the moment we made the hook, like when I popped off into the Ayashama, basically it goes like, I remember Ari, we were sitting there and be like, this is really good.
Like, like, this is really good.
So you felt it.
There was like a different feeling that you had.
Yeah, I've never that you didn't feel when I went to perform that song live before it was released.
Every single person by the second hook knew the hook.
Every single person.
And I was like, that doesn't happen.
So when we made the song, we were like, yeah, this song is really fucking good.
You're in the pocket.
That's what, like, it's a real, I really hit that pocket.
You peered it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, there, there is something that like an unspoken, it's like unspoken riz.
Yeah.
When you hit a song, you know, it's like, it's impossible to like exactly identify it in a, in a, you know, mathematic calculation.
But when you're there, you know it.
And I think this works for every art, like every, every facet of the arts.
Like you can even have it in streaming when you're like really fucking, you have good back and forth banter with your chat or you have like you're making content and you're feeling like, god damn, this is really good.
Obviously, it's like a more smaller scale than what you're like when you just like when you yeah, when you just black out and you're performing in the perfect way possible.
And I think it happens.
Where does the sample come from?
It's not a sample.
Ari played it.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I remember I was like, yo, just riff on like a Spanish guitar and then he was riffing on his keyboard and then he found a melody.
I was like, yo, that's fire.
And then I went, wanna pop off.
And then he was like, that's fire.
And then I was like, yo, we should just say something super dumb.
Like I shine my wrist.
They go like shah shah sha, which makes no fucking sense.
And I was like, albums like that are, well, it's kind of like, I think I always say this, and I'll explain this.
It's like, you know, Kumboy Amy Lord.
Everyone knows that song.
Yeah.
What does mean?
Don't know.
Exactly.
So what does that mean?
I think it means like family.
It's like family, I think.
I think.
I don't know.
Can you Google that?
I really need to check my phone.
I have never gotten this many texts in my life.
This is ridiculous.
It's literally just my dad.
What does Kumbayam?
He's like, do not hang out with that Turkish motherfucker.
He's a butcher.
Like, you went to that Turk's house twice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Harmony and Unity.
Got it.
Okay, there it is.
Harmony and you.
So like, if the whole world can say the same shit through different, you know, it can like transgress through different cultures because it's, I'm not saying anything.
And it's just like, it's like a sound, then that's how, that's how hits are made.
Yeah.
Have you felt that since?
This is kind of a tough question to answer.
Uh-oh.
What do you mean?
Have you felt like that you were in the pocket since?
I mean, Edamame was definitely a pocket.
I remember when I made that song, I was like, okay, this sounds, this song, like, it flows super well.
And, you know, you can listen to some of my music and like some of it, some of it's good.
Like, some of it's good, but there's imperfections on it.
And like, la la, perfect song.
Perfect song.
There's nothing wrong with that song.
Edamame, nothing wrong with that song.
And you can tell.
Like, how did you, how did you feel?
Like, what was the first moment that you recognized like, oh, shit, this is going fucking viral?
With what, which song?
With la la la.
So we, what we did was, this is the first song I ever, like, I actually marketed before the song came out.
Oh, okay.
This was, this was, so, like, all my fan base was like, oh, he's, like, posting about this shit.
So clearly, it, like, tapped my fan base enough.
But at the time, your fan base was marginal, I assume.
I had like 100,000 followers on Instagram.
Okay.
This was right off, like, nursery was kind of going on TikTok to this weird, like, dance.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, you're right.
So this is like...
Can you play that for a second?
This is like the first little...
I dropped a project called Recess.
Yeah, Nursery, I remember.
You tied that perfectly, actually.
It was like, and then I dropped.
So Graby dropped his album that was like notable as his best album.
No.
No, he's independent, bro.
Yeah, this is independent.
You good?
His entire, all, all, la, la, la, will you, bro.
We're going to clap us for this?
That would be, that'd be a rude song.
Yo, that'd be fire.
Let's go.
It'd be a rigged business decision.
Yeah, so this song, so right around like one minute and 37 seconds, this song had like this weird little audio that it goes to like double time.
This music video is great.
I think it's like one minute 38 or some shit.
So this was like the one song I didn't want to include on the album.
That's how it works.
Because I was like, it's just me spitting too much.
So right here, it went, I remember this.
And this was like the first time that I like implemented like a house element.
It goes.
It goes.
This song is incredibly hard to perform live.
I run out of breath the whole song.
It's crazy.
I'm just wrapping my ass off.
So when this was going on TikTok, another song called Who That Boy was kind of going on TikTok.
And I was just like, oh, shit, like, I actually have a career.
I remember my distribution would send me checks and stuff.
And they would, like, it took a massive leap after I dropped this album.
And then, you know, it's still to this day, like, people, people look at that album as my best album.
And it's pretty fucking annoying.
But, but that's just.
It'll never be as good as your old shit.
Exactly, exactly.
But that's the goal is like, try to be to, for everyone with like a wider spread audience type of, you know, appeal.
Yeah.
So that happened.
And then I dropped this other song called Sriracha.
And I dropped this other song called Bad Boy.
And I dropped Whipitesla.
So all within like a six-month period, I dropped like some of my biggest music.
And they all did well.
They all did well.
I mean, Whipa Tesla didn't hit on TikTok, like same as Sriracha, but they just like, quote, good songs.
So I dropped all this good music and then la la la.
I remember typically I dropped a song, it would do like 25k first day.
This song did 84,000.
So I was like, okay, crazy.
And then the next day I did like 120.
And I was like, whoa, And at that time, at that time, that's $450, $400, $600 a day.
And like, I'm looking at this shit and I'm like, oh, I'm going to be rich.
And then it just went from like $250 to like $350,000.
And then I had tons of TikTokers DMing me, being like, bro, your song is going ape shit on TikTok.
Like, ape shit.
And I'm like, all right, cool.
And no, you were not like, all right, cool.
You were like, yeah.
No, but like, I didn't, I didn't know.
I didn't know really what it meant because at that time, TikTok was super, super fresh.
Yeah.
And, you know, it ended up doing like, it was doing like 1.6 a day.
What happened to you on TikTok happened to a lot of other happened to Gravy this year as well?
Happened to Gravy this year.
But what happened to you on TikTok pretty much is now a business model for the record labels.
Like they will go to TikTokers.
We've had Bryce Hall on here before.
And he straight up told us on another episode of Fear And where he was like, yeah, record labels come to us and they say like, you know, 20 grand to just dance, to make a dance for this fucking TikTok or to just have our song have this song that's coming out.
And these are songs that like, you know, multiple platinum-owning like artists are putting out there.
It's not like some random up-and-comer.
Record labels are using TikTok's algorithm to juice their top performers.
I mean, yeah, it's just kind of like any format, any medium, right?
It's just like, it's just another way of marketing.
But there's something on TikTok that is a little bit different, and that is that that algorithm is crack.
When it hits, dude, it's it's it's Fuego.
It hits the bank real nice.
Hour and 20 long interpretive dance for Taylor Swift's new album for my TikTok.
And I'm getting dude, you should you should listen.
You should sit in front of the camera and listen to Taylor Swift's album on repeat until you pass out.
That shit will go viral on live.
That shit.
I will get it.
And do the gritty the whole time.
Or do the whole doing the doing the gritty until Taylor Swift notices me.
Yeah, yeah.
Taylor Swift immediately notices three minutes in.
Stop.
Stop right now.
Yeah.
That is actually cool.
Okay.
Well, let's move on to the paywall portion of this bar.
Absolutely.
Right now.
Where we eat burritos.
Where we eat burritos and we have sexy conversations.
We get a little naked.
Can you do the gritty?
I can do the gritty.
I can't do the ludding.
Can you teach Hassan to do the gritty?
We'll do that in the paywall portion.
What do you want to tell the cameras?
The people that are watching the free episode.
Where can people find you?
What do you want?
What's coming up right now for you?
I just dropped an album going on tour with Young Gravy in North America.
I would say buy tickets, but most of it sold out, which is dope.
Damn.
It's amazing the audience.
Dude, it's funny.
We announced Terra Reed and Freddy Dredd on a bunch of shows, and they're super sick, but we announced them late.
And like, none of their fans can buy tickets because this shit's just sold out.
And I was like, we kind of did them dirty, but like, they'll still have a good time.
I fucking love Freddy Dredd.
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Dude, yeah, he's fired.
I fucking know.
He's hilarious.
He's hilarious.
I can vouch for this.
Yeah, Freddy's sick.
Come to the show.
You guys are all invited.
Well, it's sold out.
Well, no, not when it's not, not when you're famous.
Not when you got it.
Not when you get a million dollars worth of Batman, bro.
I did not get that from Batman.
Oh, man.
All right.
Well, we're going to talk more about that on the paywalled side.
If you want to check that out, please go to patreon.com/slash fear and.
And yeah, that's it.
Peace out.
If someone had wrote a song like Layla about me and I'm in my Prius and you go, hey, put it on?
The song's about me.
You don't think that makes the seat a little bit slip in Slan?
That Prius is officially now like a Ventador.
It's the fuck zone.
Show me your Bugatti.
That's that shit.
Bugatti.
Bugatti.
Bugai.
Yeah.
Nice.
I drove a Bugai.
Topji.
That shit is so dumb.
What happened to him now?
I haven't seen it.
He converted to Islam, actually.
He found the light of Allah and he said the Shahada.
And now...
That's not a good look for Islam.
Wrong.
Islam took an L right there.
Islam is going to cleanse him of his mischievous and devious ways.