Hasan Piker and Will Neff return to Fear & Arms Trafficking, interviewing Eva Elfie and Nadia to dissect the economics of sex work, contrasting Elfie's $3,000 debut earnings with European standards and OnlyFans' wartime restrictions for Russians. The hosts debate circumcision aesthetics, critique Andrew Tate's revenue models, and analyze parasocial dynamics while sharing personal anecdotes ranging from psilocybin-induced ego death to Siberian winters versus Los Angeles life. Ultimately, the episode exposes the blurred lines between amateur intimacy, gaming culture, and geopolitical satire, highlighting how digital platforms reshape both sexual expression and political discourse. [Automatically generated summary]
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Switching To Amsterdam00:14:33
We're back.
Yeah, that's right, dude.
We're freaking back.
And not only are we back, but we're back in a big way.
That's right.
Perhaps the biggest way.
If you're hungry for more Minecrafter content, you are not going to get it today.
No, we like to, never let them know your next movie.
No, we're switching.
We go to Amsterdam.
We hang out with the Minecrafters.
We come back to Los Angeles, baby, and we got sex workers, extraordinaire, female entrepreneur legends, you know, dissidents of the Russian government.
All sorts of crazy things are happening.
And then we have me and Will Neff.
Do either of you play Minecraft?
That's going to hurt our memory.
God damn it.
Okay.
Cut it.
Okay.
They don't play Minecraft.
They both play Minecraft.
I thought they played Minecraft.
I'm so sorry, everybody.
I know you were juiced for this next wave of content creators that we're going to have on here on Fear And we're back, dude.
We're back.
We're in a big way.
And for the second episode, I thought, you know, we should have one of Will and I's favorite adult actresses on up and coming.
Can I say up and coming?
Is that appropriate?
I'm going to look at Nadia a lot for this.
Is it appropriate?
I mean, it's a double on.
The reason why I'm looking at you as well is because we have Eva Elfie here with us, okay, alongside Nadia from Pussy Riot.
I want you guys to introduce yourselves as well because I did a horrible job.
I'm a bad person at this.
I'm not good at my job.
I too loved how you introduced us.
Okay.
Sounded like you have a whole crowd in your studio.
Yeah.
Well, you've been here before.
You know how it is.
We just have our tech guy, Billy Rave Brains, over there, fresh off hard summer.
Yeah, he's a little, he's a little.
He showed up today to set up the podcast with glitter still on his face.
True.
Good thing we don't pay him.
So I have him enslaved and trapped in my basement.
That's right.
So that's fine.
But yeah, Eva might have a little bit of a language block every now and then because she is fresh off the boat, if you will, right out of Russia, I guess, right?
Did you come here from Russia or you were traveling the world?
I'm traveling a lot and I was in Thailand, Bali, Singapore.
God damn.
Dubai.
You're on a journey.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Were you doing a Fortnite event with Ms. Kif in Dubai?
No.
Okay.
No.
Okay.
Well, regardless, this is Eva's first ever English interview that she's ever done.
Today's my first podcast in English and fucking nervous.
Don't be nervous.
We're terrible at this.
Yeah, yeah, no, we're bad.
We're bad at this.
So do not worry about that.
But I do have a lot of questions for both of you guys.
So I think it'll be fun.
But, you know, anytime there is any sort of like anything that's lost in translation, you know, you can ask Nadia as well.
I hope Nadia will help me today.
I think, yeah.
And Nadia is a wonderful second time comer into the Hasanabi broadcast, but also we're not doing that right now.
We're going to be doing that in a little bit.
Sure.
And might recognize her from that or from being arrested for many different things that she has done in Russia.
For her art.
For her art as well.
I think I've been arrested 100 times or something.
There you go.
She just loves it.
She loves getting arrested.
It's just.
Corny Joe is my favorite.
Yeah.
So this is kind of like that.
This is kind of like a Russian prison, but in a content form, I would say.
So that's what we're doing.
I have an important question.
Can Americans order a horny jail?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're looking at it.
Is that your merchandise?
Yes.
Horny jail?
Yes.
Let's take a look.
Let's take a look at the horny jail merch.
Yeah.
That's cool.
So you have merchandise.
All right.
That's fire.
When did you start doing porn?
And how?
Four years ago.
Four years ago.
Yep.
And that when we found out about her?
Oh, for sure.
It was so strange.
I'm like looking for some job, like actress and a model.
And I found a porn.
Yeah.
Elfyshop.com.
But we didn't realize yet.
It will be at August soon.
Oh my God.
We looked up elfyshop.com and the first thing that comes up is definitely not your children's clothes.
I don't think that's really.
Dude, that would be such a flex, though.
Yeah.
Daddy's jail.
Baby onesies.
Yeah, no, definitely not.
That's not.
Yeah, no.
Okay.
All right.
That's.
Never mind.
All right.
We're not pulling up the merch.
So four years ago, you're looking to become an actress.
What happened?
Is it like a backroom casting couch type situation?
You go in and they're like...
I found one.
What?
Oh, you'll learn a few things about your best friend.
Now I need a translator.
What the hell do you just say?
What's up?
What's going on?
How are you doing?
Really?
Yeah.
That sounded way dirtier than that.
No, it was not.
Okay.
I don't know more.
I don't know dirty Russian words.
Like I know like the void.
Yeah, yeah, it's good.
Yes, yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Faster.
Right, isn't it?
Davoy?
Devi, the voice.
Why do I know that?
Find out later in the episode.
We're going to talk about that.
I don't feel like you had a video that went super viral.
Am I remembering that correctly?
You had one specific.
Which video was that again?
Weren't you in like a chairlift or something?
Am I crazy?
There was one where she was like cucking her boyfriend while her boyfriend is like Googling something, but that's not the one.
I think the one.
That's the one Hassan liked.
No, no, that was like that.
That one popped off too.
But like...
Hassan had me eat a breakfast burrito in front of him today.
Yeah, that's my new fetish.
We're going to talk about that in a second as well.
That's my new fetish is like making people eat things that I can't eat because I'm like losing weight.
But I think it was just like the basic like and girlfriend stuff that she did, I think.
You had shorter hair back then.
And that one blew up a little bit, but that wasn't like...
You've had a gradual success.
You've had like, you know, you've been, you've been on the up and up.
Yeah, but it was a little bit strange.
And we make studio porns in Europe.
And my boyfriend said me that, why are we doing that?
Let's do it shoot together on camera.
And we make very Russian video, like this interviewer in Russia, very old.
I don't know how to say in India.
Yep, yep, yep.
And I'm just for him and that's the video.
And this video was really popular in Pornhub.
It was our first video, like 10 millions.
And yep.
Did you make a lot of money off that?
The first video ever?
Because from what I understand, Pornhub actually monetizes pretty well.
Yep, it's good.
Like YouTube.
How much money did you make, if you don't mind me asking, from your first ever porn video?
Like $3,000.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
For one video, yes.
So first video is good.
Yeah.
Because if you porn actress in Europe and you're working, you can...
You can get only $500 for one video.
Jesus.
Yeah.
It's not fun.
That's crazy.
That's not a lot of...
Yeah, that's...
And so you sell your rates to...
And you sell your rates to the production company for $500.
Jeez.
And you don't even pay for it.
It's only $300.
So it's like $100.
Okay, those rates are bad.
Those are not good rates, I don't think.
But you took matters into your own hands and you started doing it on your own and you blew up.
And that's great.
You've traveled the world.
I want to ask, well, I mean, Nadia, you've done some sex work stuff.
What was your journey like into sex work?
I have OnlyFans.
Well, it was started from Durian Electron.
We were hanging with Durian Electra and we were chatting about word consists of three letters, starts on N, finishes on T that I'm not allowed to say in the studio.
Oh, you can say it.
Wait, what?
Nut?
NFT.
NFTs.
Oh, NFT.
Nut.
That was wrong.
That was not what I was thinking of at all.
I was not even thinking of NFTs.
I'm sorry.
I was talking about myself.
I'll hold DL for that one.
I was in NFT sales and I was like, I just need half a mill in this video that I sold.
And Durian was like, yeah, but, you know, I made so-and-so on just, you know, like not even full nudes.
It's just, you know, some slightly erotic content.
And I was like, oh, that's interesting.
Why didn't I do both?
And then I started OnlyFans and my experience was great because I've heard about people not having not the fantastic experience, but I think it depends on your audience.
And because I built my audience for, I mean, for ages, for years.
Can't find the best way for adult.
Yeah.
I mean, because you have more control.
Why you don't have OnlyFans?
Why don't I have OnlyFans?
That's a great question.
There's a question on everybody's mind.
I'm not even kidding.
This is my first question I asked you when you were hanging in Ray.
Yeah, you're so big and so handsome.
I am.
Thank you.
But you're actually NUT, Hassan.
Where's the NUTs?
So the reason why I don't have it is because I grow up very fat.
I have a lot of body dysmorphia and I just, I would not be able to consistently post content on there.
Like it would just break my brain.
So I do, I respect people who are able to do it.
Like I think it's wild that people are able to do it.
I can't do it.
But I think the fact that OnlyFans gives you freedom to do pretty much everything you want.
So you can film yourself, you can tune yourself.
No, they've tried to get me to do it before.
Like I think there's the OnlyFans itself, I think, like had like the owners of OnlyFans, I think, like they had another project potentially.
Like they've reached out to my management before to try to be like, OnlyFans is not just about porn.
And I'm like, okay, but that's the cool stuff.
I just have like one thing, like a really good thing to say about OnlyFans.
So when we're collecting money for Ukraine in the beginning of the war, OnlyFans donated 500 ETH, which is like was almost $2 million at the time.
What is it now?
Probably not that.
Well, 100.
I mean, like, I'm freaking terrible.
Quickness.
700 is the cost of Ethereum right now.
And it's 500.
But maybe you know the situation.
Only fans blocked all pages for Russian girls.
And it was a big problem for Russian adults performers.
Many girls lost pages.
Yeah, that sucks.
That's not great.
I mean, they should.
Like, I'm an advocate for the Russian people.
I mean, you guys are both Russian.
Yep.
I'm an advocate.
Siberia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait, what?
Siberian.
Okay.
From the frozen north.
That's crazy.
How does that work?
Did you know that?
Vizriel B, you know?
What?
Vizriel B or R. They're like Russian Canadians.
You want to do a photo shoot with a bear?
Deck yeah, porn photo shoot or something of that nature.
I think that would be next step.
Somebody'd be interested in that.
That's going to be next step after Carpet in the Wall.
Like a...
Yeah, like, I mean, you could do like a bear outfit.
You know what I mean?
Like, wear a bear outfit, but naked.
I don't know.
I was actually going to.
I didn't think he was a good person for that.
Yeah.
This was a good idea.
Yeah, you can kick off your OnlyFans career as a bear.
As a bear, yeah.
No one would know.
They could only identify you by your nips.
Yeah, that's what that's what my thing would be.
I'd be like a in a verse, but a bear versus.
I think that's very famous political competition.
I think you will be very popular for men on the font scene.
For sure.
I mean, yes, but maybe, probably not.
I'm too self-conscious.
I would never be able to do it.
I've seen you archer back before.
We were going to actually, I was going to suggest that we suggest porn director style concepts later as well.
So we'll get to that.
Dude, I am.
I didn't know.
I knew you were going to be so into that.
This is a Stanley Kubrick of porn.
Yeah.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
Oh, very tasteful.
Very tasteful stuff.
We got a lot of, we have artistic.
Ready?
Here's my idea for a porn.
You're so humble.
Listen, I know what I'm good at.
I can't read.
I can do this.
Here's my idea for porn.
Have you guys seen Marriage Story with Danielle Driver?
I've heard you talk about this before.
Go on.
So we have a couple at a table and they're arguing.
They're fighting.
They're reaching the end of their marriage, right?
It's painful.
It's emotional.
In the background, totally apropos of nothing.
Slightly out of focus.
Two people fucking.
That's all.
We watched the entirety of the argument.
Tears.
Joy, love.
But then, but then in the back, there's something for everybody.
Yes.
Like, it's like, it's like a treat for you.
Maybe your girlfriend wanted to watch a marriage story and you didn't want to watch it.
Exactly.
Now you can watch Eva Elfie have sex with her boyfriend in the window in the other.
As two Juilliard-trained actors go through the end of a relationship.
Juilliard trained of dick.
So, you know, just same.
I like that.
I like that a lot.
Hey, I have a good story for you guys.
The Antichrist Scene Rumor00:15:45
Do you know who William Defoe is, the actor?
He was, okay, apparently the legend is he was supposed to do a full penetration scene in a movie called Antichrist.
Yeah.
And the legend is he was like, of course I'll do it.
And he pulled his penis out and it was so obnoxiously huge that the director was like, we can't use that.
Okay, I have a correction on this.
It's not actually a full penetration scene.
It was a scene where the dick is gushing blood.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, sorry, but go on.
Yes.
But what was the problem?
The problem was his penis was too huge.
Gargantuan.
And it was going to be distracting.
He had to penetrate or had to just...
No, He pulls it out for a scene.
And in that scene, I believe his dick is supposed to be like spraying blood or gushing blood.
And director Lars Van Schreer looked at Willem Defoe's penis and said, this is distracting for my art house picture.
So he had to use a stunt penis.
A cock double.
I was thinking he's radical.
Yeah.
He's a coward.
He's a coward for not giving us the real, the real Willem the Fuck.
I didn't mind the pick penis.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's actually a question.
We have a bunch of questions that I'm sure you get all the time as women across the board, regardless, right?
And also, especially as sex workers as well.
And I wanted to rattle a couple off, but this is a good segue into that.
Does size matter?
On the way here, I watched your video on that topic.
Video was great.
Yeah.
I don't think so.
I think that's better when you use some toys and you talk with your partner and you know what she likes, he likes, and it's.
You're a size queen.
I like how dicks look.
So when they're super tiny, it's just not super interesting to me.
You're never like, that's a fascinatingly small penis.
Visually compelling.
Yeah.
I never saw it.
I mean, it never happened with me in real life.
So I'm just trying to focus on when they have like super small penis.
I don't think it's that happens that often.
I had a sexy small penis.
How small are we talking?
Like micro or like this?
That's a small penis.
That's a small penis.
Okay.
She's like, that's how wide it was.
Yeah.
She's like, yeah, dickness, the girl.
It's so tiny.
What sizes do you have, guys?
I have a very pretty seven-inch penis.
He has a very nice one.
Seven inches what?
How many kilometers is it?
I don't know that.
I can't do the conversion.
I have.
I have a similar size penis.
I'm very fond of it.
I'm very, I'm very fond of it.
I'm lucky, though, because I'm not.
That's a great size.
I'm like a normal size human.
So my seven-inch penis on my frame looks huge.
He's built like Shaquille O'Neal.
And on him, his seven-inch penis doesn't look as great.
I think it's still.
It's a great penis.
It's still.
It's a great penis.
I've had no complaints.
Right.
That's all I'm going to say.
But I'm like monster truck tires on a Prius.
Have we seen each other's penis?
Yes, we've seen each other's penis.
He has a penis tip like Darth Vader.
I pull my penis out a lot.
He has a penis like a Darth Vader helmet.
Erection penis, like in the shower.
Erect penises?
I don't think I've...
I don't think we've ever seen each other.
No, you don't.
No, you don't see each other's erect penis.
No, that's gay.
I have a single single penny, though.
That's gay.
When you have a best friend, you don't know them and you can't trust them.
Once you see their cock.
You have to see their cock.
It's like one of these.
It's like a.
It's a handshake, but with our cock.
Hey, nice dick.
How do I become friends with you guys?
Listen.
It's not just the penis showing.
There's a lot of phases that lead up.
Yes, but the penis showing is like the stance.
It's the comp of approval.
It's like the culmination of it.
What are you doing later after the stream?
We are going to be live streaming, which is not how we will not be able to show our penises to you guys if that's what you want to see on the live stream.
I want to be friends with you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Maybe.
This is my second idea for a pornography.
Okay.
So yeah.
We're doing.
Okay.
So we're doing our best friendship active ritual.
And then you guys walk in and you're like, oh my God.
Two straight guys are showing each other their penis.
Attractive girl makes them feel very nervous.
They both blush.
And then Walrus Van Treya walks in.
There's another.
Okay.
There's another fun penis story for you guys.
So in Euphoria, are you guys familiar with Euphoria?
It's HBO show about teenagers played by like fucking 35-year-old people.
Even though we live in the forest.
What?
We are familiar, even though we live in the forest.
Yeah.
So she looked at me like, do you know what euphoria is?
Have you seen it?
Okay, perfect.
I haven't.
So that's why I expect people not to know either.
But apparently, on the show, Marsh is on euphoria.
Yeah.
You do look like you're on euphoria.
Marsh does look like he's on euphoria right now.
But in the show, there's a lot of like dick shots, right?
There's a lot of shots where dicks are out.
And apparently, on the show, for all those dick shots, they used doubles.
One of the actors had like a nice one, right?
Like a dick, like a fake penis.
And from what I've heard, and this is some tea for you guys, his real penis is much smaller than the dick double that they use on the show.
So now the entire world thinks this man has a whopper.
Yeah.
But he actually doesn't have a whopper.
So it's disappointing, apparently.
I'm not going to name Nana.
I think that's one of the worst things that can happen.
That is so bad.
If you get a reputation as a fat dick dude, and then you go back to your life and it's just a constant disappointment.
Yeah.
You're just, you're, it's a sequence of L's that you're delivering.
I would rather have the word on the street be that I have a small penis and then like exceed those expectations.
I don't know.
I don't know if that's at that point.
I feel like just having it out is the best thing that can happen.
No, because like conference was like, ladies and gentlemen, this is the real meat and then put it on the table.
Or maybe, well, in the circumstance that we were talking about, it's more like a anyway.
I have another question.
Are you circumcised?
Yes.
Yes.
I'm Muslim.
Oh, I'm no.
I love it.
I hate it.
My dick is built for speed.
I hate it.
Oh, yeah.
How do you say it?
I mean, I think it's mutilation.
It's not, it's not ideal.
I hate it.
I hate it.
Oh, you think it's mutilation?
I do think it's ideal.
I agree.
I'm an intactivist.
Really?
I go to the rallies.
We have clubs.
I'm going to be real.
I have a very attractive penis.
I like the way my penis looks.
I love the way my penis looks as well.
It's very proportionate.
It's built for speed.
I love the way my dick looks as well.
However, I mean, I just think it's not humane practice to cut penises.
So, I mean, I don't mind when they're already cut because like what people can do about it.
I think the grass is always greener.
What about him?
But then again, I've never heard.
Why?
You prefer circumcised or not circumcised?
I prefer cut penis.
It's like it's very nature.
We're back.
We're back.
We're in score one for us.
Hey, what's up?
You guys.
See, dude, there's something about a nice circumcised penis.
It just looks fast.
He's built for speed.
He's ready.
Here's my argument.
I've seen botched circumcisions.
Okay, well, I don't know.
I went to a boarding school, so I saw a lot of penises.
I don't, I've never seen a botched circumcision.
I saw like half on him.
But Manuel Ferreira, for example, he has like a, he's, he's not circumcised.
Friend of the show, Emmanuel Ferreira.
Are you guys familiar?
Have you ever had sex with him?
Okay.
People say he's great.
He's a good dude.
Yeah.
Love the guy.
So he has a fat one.
Yeah, he does.
But also, he's not circumcised, but also his like foreskin is like gripping his shit.
So that one is like a situation where like it might even be better if he got circumcised.
No, that's the thing.
Like apparently you can have like a foreskin that's too small for your for your hog.
However, the counter I was going to because I am a famous that's too big for your hogs.
I am the other side of that.
I am a famous intactivist.
Like a little brother wearing his big sister's tube top.
It's just like his entire body.
It does look like that.
But I am a famous intactivist.
Sure.
And one thing I will always argue is that one, we did not consent.
No.
That's important.
Two, two, I am of the mindset that if you're not circumcised, I have this idea in my head.
I don't know if it's true or not, but this is what goes on in interactivist circles.
This is what they claim is that like we have lost sensitivity because our shit's just rubbing up against fabric from day one.
Whereas the foreskin, on the other hand, protects.
Listen, my penis has got a job to do.
Well, in my experience, it is absolutely true.
It's the head of penis so much more sensitive if they're not sensitive.
That's what I'm saying.
Can you imagine the pleasures that we are missing out on?
And so when I suck, I don't worry about it.
They get so much more.
Listen, I get where I'm going.
I'm a hedonist.
You know what I mean?
They're moaning and stuff, and I love that.
And when you suck circumcised penises.
Okay, wait, hold on.
Wait, what do you mean?
I'm still moaning.
Don't misunderstand this.
I still very much completely straight face.
Yeah.
Very good.
I think I enjoy what's happening.
Never.
I'm not even thinking about how pleasurable this would be if I had my foreskin.
I like how my penis is a little battle harder.
He's going in there.
You got punished penis.
Punish.
It's got like a lot.
There is another question.
Should we talk about vaginas and cliss?
Because we talk a lot about penises.
Sure, of course.
Do you have any questions?
Do you have a question for us about this?
If we ask you about the penises, we can tell you about the vaginas.
I'm entering an era where I appreciate fat pussies more.
Interesting.
Yeah.
What do you mean by that?
It's a whole category where they're just like a big pussy.
Are you talking about the lips?
I don't even touch it like these.
Yes, I allow it.
Well, not the lips.
It's a whole...
Marsh, pull that up for us.
Well, it's like you're talking about the cheeks of the pussy, not the lips.
I get it.
Like this, this thing.
Yes.
Yeah.
What do you think about Arby's We On the Meats?
Not as big.
Not as big into that.
No.
Okay.
I have no...
I'm just, I'm of the mindset that I'm excited when I see a pussy.
So I'm like, great.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Every time I see it, I'm like, that's keep doing you.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
I can't wait to be all up in that.
Great.
Okay, guys, I have one more question for you.
Sure.
Teeth or S?
Tids are ass.
Yeah.
He's going to answer for me.
I mean, he's a titan.
I'm Daywood.
He's a big titman.
Listen, like uncomfortable.
No.
Okay.
Well, some of the girls who some of the girls that he shares with me where he's like, look at this.
I think the breasts are.
I think the breasts are fascinating.
I like large breasts, but I also like the anatomy of a shapely breast.
There's so much that goes into a great, yeah, a retroside tit, prim looking stargazer.
The teardrops.
Yeah.
Like turkey looking upwards, you know, pointing up at the sky.
Yeah.
Present party included.
I am a, I, it's just so whack to say this, but like I always have been a faceman, I guess.
But as far as like, if we're going to, I know, it's whack.
I know.
I like it.
I always spend minute when I deal with those kind of people.
What do you mean?
I mean, I have some shapes, but I think my face always wins.
So I always attract people who are facemen.
Yeah, I'm a faceman.
Everyone's a face person, though.
No, but like.
No, no, I'm saying like, I'm talking like if someone has a nice face, but like no titties, no ass, like nice face, I'm in it.
I'm there.
I like it.
I'm fine with it.
But as far as like, if we're going to reduce it down to tits versus ass, I would say, I would have to say probably tits.
Yeah.
You know what I'm becoming in my old age, though?
An abs, man.
I love boobs.
Okay.
Oh, now you're opening.
Now you're expanding.
You can't just do that.
I can't hand me out the jungle.
Abs are huge right now.
Abs are big.
Muscle girl summer.
We are, we're big advocates for muscle girl summer.
You guys have seen any of these muscle girls?
Pull up lean beef patty on here.
Let's let's let's show them.
Pull up Jenal and Meowry for me, please.
Okay, that's a friend.
That's our friend.
I like more natural tips and not to beacon that I touch.
Oh, yeah.
So cool.
Yeah.
No, we're, we're fans of, we're fans of the Eau Naturel ourselves here.
I'm an advocate.
Like, I, I don't.
I, I, look, if it makes you feel confident, do you, obviously.
But, like, if you ask me, and some people have in the past.
Um, yeah.
If you ask me, I'm always going to tell you, like, don't get a job.
Don't get a tit job.
Don't get a boop job.
It literally is just like, I, A-cups are better than I think in my personal experience, but you know, unless it makes you happy.
This is what we're talking about.
I'm having the screen.
I'm in.
Yeah, this is a muscle girl.
I'm big on this.
I called this a shield maiden.
Yeah.
Someone, there was a, there was a meme going around on the internet that said that, like, if you like lean beef patty, like, you're gay.
And I was like, I'm gay as fuck, I guess.
I just, I want her to beat me up a little bit.
Yeah, no, she's jacked.
Muscle girl summer is what we're advocating for.
Cassandra, you want to share how do you lose weight?
How do I lose weight?
Um, by not eating.
Yeah, controlling my calories.
I'm the opposite.
I'm, I'm what's called.
Call keto for months.
Keto.
Doesn't that just rock your stomach, though?
No, I feel good.
Really?
Yeah.
And definitely the only way to that shape.
I have a different, so I practice something called exercise bulimia, basically, where I do like a thousand plus calories on an elliptical every day.
I didn't eat sugar around six months.
You haven't had sugar in six months.
That's crazy.
Yes, it was difficult.
Like, not sugar, like cakes, but anywhere, sugars.
Yes, and there's a bread and so.
It's got to be solo energy.
And fruits?
Sometimes.
Do you just bang coffee?
No.
You don't drink coffee?
That's crazy.
I didn't consume any sugar for a long time ago.
Y'all are wild.
Well, actually, I do not consume sugar right now.
So if I happen to eat a lot of berries, I feel like I'm on cocaine.
I'm so energized.
I'm like, what the fuck is happening?
My heart beats.
It's great.
Or you could just like eat sugar and then do cocaine.
But that's just, I don't know.
That's just a separate suggestion.
I mean, that's wild.
It's more expensive.
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Billy Rave could tell us about that.
Yeah.
Well, no.
We're not slandering.
Can you pull that up for us?
Yeah.
Can you pull up berries and cocaine?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, but yeah, workout-wise, like, or staying in shape.
I gained a lot of weight over the pandemic.
Yeah.
And we both, so in LA, during the pandemic, they shut down gyms.
They discouraged like running in public.
And so I started doing this thing where I lived in West Hollywood, which is the gayest area in the world.
And there would be like a Taj to Mecca at night where the gays and I would go to a public park and work out on like a jungle gym.
So they was rollerblading everywhere.
Yeah, I would rollerblade there.
Yeah.
I love rollerblades.
Rollerblade got my ass popping, but they barricaded the jungle gyms.
So we couldn't even use the jungle gyms.
That's just homophobic.
Yeah, it was, it was.
Have you ever been arrested by trying to work out?
No.
That'd be awesome.
But it is.
It is outright homophobia to bar the gays in We Ho from working out.
Like, what the fuck?
Yeah, yeah.
It's like a religious practice.
Let them have this.
Let the gays work out.
Yeah.
I was almost arrested for just trying to hike.
Really, where in America?
Yeah, it was in Los Angeles.
In the United States, yeah, well, you know, I didn't hiking through a hospital.
Communist Communist America, folks, you heard it here first.
Where were you hiking?
I was Cherry Kenyon.
La Canada.
You were not allowed to be on a fucking out and about forest hike.
That's during the pandemic.
It was wild.
I hate hiking.
So I just, I've never even.
I've almost been arrested for having my dog out and off a leash for a bench warrant one time for it.
Like it was fucking insane.
I, I, my dog is, he was, he passed away uh two years ago, but he used to be very uh not the most athletic guy.
He's big pit bull.
And he was athletic, he just wasn't coordinated.
Yeah, no, he's like an offensive line.
Yeah, no, he would he would just gas himself out basically.
He would wear himself out.
So uh do this thing with his dog.
It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
He'd throw the ball one time and fish would bring back the ball.
And then the next 30 times he would just do the fake throw and fish would, yeah, he would just go back.
I mean, he was exercising.
You know what I mean?
See what dog was named Fish?
Yeah.
I would exercise him a lot.
Who's name is Wolf?
Little Wolf, actually.
Volchuck.
Yeah.
Volchuck.
Is that how you say it?
Yeah.
Wolf.
Wolf.
But yeah.
So what happened is I went, I took him off leash and I put him on my back because I was carrying him.
He's a big dog.
And a forest ranger like rolled up in a pickup truck and was like, you're getting a sautation for that.
I was like, what the fuck?
What do you mean?
I'm like, you can't have your dog off leash.
I'm like, I'm carrying the fucking dog.
Like, calm down.
So, you know, America, not so different than communist China, is it?
That's fish.
Oh, yeah.
That's what he looks like.
So, yeah, that's my dog story.
But getting back.
Well, you got a dog story.
Oh, you do have a dog story.
Go ahead.
Tell your dog story.
Yeah, I'm back to the penises.
This happened yesterday.
This happened yesterday.
Oh, I just unplugged my mic.
Marsh, am I good?
Okay.
Yeah.
Am I good?
So, so I'm a big advocate for psilocybin mushrooms.
I think psilocybin mushrooms are like a life changer.
And I dealt with manic depressive, you know, all sorts of stuff.
ADHD and mushrooms have always helped me.
So I always have mushrooms on hand.
And yesterday I went to breakfast and my dog broke out of the room that we had him in and then broke into a bag, like ripped a bag open and ate two grams of psilocybin mushrooms.
And I came back and I saw the packaging on the floor and I was like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
I called Poison Control.
They're like, this happens all the time.
There's not much chocolate in it.
So he's going to be fine, but he's going to trip balls.
And I was like, okay.
So for the whole day, I was like trip sitting my multi-poo as he like experienced ego death.
He was crazy.
He wasn't crazy, but he made some faces where he was like, what the fuck is going on?
Like you'd play for like 30 seconds and then just be like, oh my god, apparently he's really chill now.
Yeah, cheese.
Listen to music.
The one thing he did that I've never listened to Bob Marley.
Every little thing.
The one thing that he did that I've never seen a dog do.
We were like hanging out and he was laying down and he made eye contact with me and he just shit, while he was, oh no, yeah.
So after like six hours of trip sitting, he was, he was fine, he was in his mind.
He was like yeah, isn't that kind of up, you gotta clean this bitch man.
Checking right at it, looking right at you, like yeah, there's one point where I swear like I, you know, when you're so high and you swear that you can understand other languages.
I think for the first time he understood what I was saying to him in his mushroom addled mind and I just saw his hit himself.
Holy fuck, I get what this idiot is saying.
Oh, no, he was like, Yeah, I'm owned by an asshole.
Yeah, he looked at you and went, Who's the real master?
You or me in this situation.
You're picking up my shit, bitch.
But that was that was so stressful.
That's pretty funny.
Charlie is like tiny little fucking menace.
He is a menace.
Pax big punch.
He's just constantly jumping up and down shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Too many times this whole time.
You do treat your dog like a white woman.
Like you are, you are the white woman dog.
I wake up and I like make him eggs.
Yeah.
Is the dog is big or small?
He's like this big.
Like he goes on hikes all the time.
And yet he still has a lot of energy because he's constantly fucking walking this thing.
So like he's just like, what's up?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's like, what's up?
Are we not going on a hike?
Like sometimes we'll leave him here and he's just like pissed off.
He's like, what do you mean?
I'm not coming.
He gets an edge.
Yeah, he will.
He will.
He gets edgy with it.
Maybe he's mellowed out now with the mushrooms, but I love him.
Yeah, he's definitely a different man.
Yeah.
He's a vegan now.
He's really cool.
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It's weird.
He's like listening to the Joe Rogan podcast.
It's like, yeah, DMT.
You got any of those in your bag?
Might break into that next time, you know?
Come back instead of him breaking into the trash.
It's him just pulling up YouTube.
Yeah.
So, no, sorry.
I was just like looking up things that I wanted to ask.
So you guys get obviously comic questions.
We talked about does size matter?
You said no.
You said yes, kind of.
Mostly for just visual pleasure, because I don't really think it matters that much.
Well, I think men are into the visual pleasure of big penises too.
Straight men.
You can't watch a porn with the tiny penis.
You can't.
You can't do that.
Once you experience a Danny D video.
Yeah, you gotta see, you gotta see a big one.
It's a ripe hog.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just like it's not, it's not cutting it.
Something visual about it.
Everyone's a little gay.
Everyone's a little, just a little bit.
You know what I mean?
Nothing wrong with that.
The aesthetics of a nice girl.
You just can't like, you watch a porn, you're not gonna, you know.
What's he gonna do with that?
Yeah, what are you doing?
What are you doing with that one?
And I mean, well, porn actually does create unrealistic standards for men for sure because like a lot of the penises that I'm sure you've worked with, like, they're not monsters, right?
They're like, I mean, we're gonna do an inch centimeter conversion here a little bit.
Kilometers.
From what I understand, kilometers.
I'm on it.
From what I understand, like with seven inches is like a larger, on the larger end.
What is it?
What would it be?
Centimeter wise?
18?
18.
18, yeah.
When it makes my dick sound huge.
I'm going centimeters for the rest of my life.
No, I wonder.
People ask you how big is your penis?
18.
Yeah.
Don't even elaborate.
Don't say inches or anything.
18.
But like everyone assumes that it's like massive.
Everyone assumes that every penis in porn is like 10 inches, which would be like what, like 25 centimeters or something like that.
When that's not the case, right?
And have you, have you ever hooked up with someone with like particularly large penis or you're like, that's too big?
No, because usually I make porn only with my husband.
Oh, and it's all, yes.
And with other girls.
Never mind.
You know, it's a, I saw a little bit secret.
When you see porn, it's not real huge because cameramen use special lines.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And S so weak and your teeth so weak and your industry secrets.
Wide lens.
You know, you're taking a nice penis photo.
You're taking a nice penis shot.
You got to use that wide angle.
Dude, I do the same thing when I take dick pics.
You want to know what my secret is?
Have you ever heard of a coronita?
No.
You know what a corona is?
Like the alcoholic beverage, a bottle.
Yeah, yeah.
So they make something called a coronita, which is the same bottle.
Tiny size.
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And I have that in the background with like a dollhouse.
And that way my penis looks like...
Yeah, but I mean, same, but with a mini diet.
Mini diet coke can.
I put it next to it.
Like it's like towering over.
It's like a Godzilla film.
But all of a sudden, they're like, what the fuck?
This dude's got like multiple Coke cans.
It's great.
Wonderful.
A few people cowering in fear.
Yeah.
In the background.
Oh, no.
One man from Mexico has one of the big coke like this.
No.
Yeah.
48 centimeters.
Who is that?
From Mexico.
But I love what he said.
Tell me about him.
You can Google.
It's more like, he doesn't fuck.
Yeah, but that's like...
It's not direct.
It's not usable.
48 centimeters.
At that point, it becomes like a disability.
Like a medical disease.
It's like a physigial appendage at that point.
Yeah.
That's like...
Like, I feel like after you hit a certain point in size and girth, like, it's just, you know, diminishing returns.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You would still take it, though.
You would take it.
I would not take it.
You wouldn't take it?
Where would I take it?
Yeah, I'm just so shocked.
I, like, I, I can't, there's nothing going in there.
You know what I mean?
Like, I've, uh, sometimes you wipe your butt and you're like, yeah, that was, that was a good wipe.
But that's it.
You know what I mean?
I've had my ass eaten.
Maximum, that's it.
Sure.
I don't, I'm terrified of sticking things in there.
In your butt?
Yeah.
Have you done, have you stuck things in your butt?
I've done butt stuff, but I don't, stuff in the butt feels a little on.
I get like a kind of shock.
First of all, you're not prepared.
You can't do butt stuff unless you prepare for it.
You have to prepare for it.
You know what I mean?
You should be horny.
This is first.
What's up?
You should be horny.
This is first.
But I feel like a lot of men, they do underestimate their butt.
And it's not necessary that you're constantly underestimating my butt.
But I've experienced men who love me sticking my fingers up their butt.
There is a G-spot.
There is a G-spot.
What we both suffer from.
We have man-butt.
What is that?
You and I are both burly guys.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No, I don't want anybody.
We don't have nice butts to go digging around.
No, that's what I'm saying.
It's like hairy.
Even though I shave it.
It's burly.
I shave it.
Because the wiping.
It's a working man's.
So doctors stick fingers up your buttons good for your sexual performance.
Wow.
Yeah.
They check your prostate.
Yeah.
So regardless, though, I just, I am not like, I'm not prepared for it.
I don't want to put anyone through that.
You know what I mean?
I'm not ready for it.
I don't think anyone should be ready for it with me in particular.
You know what I mean?
I mean, so with one person, it took around six months of gentle preparation for him to be.
Six months?
You prepped his head.
You were devoted.
You were like, I'm going to be all up in that.
I'm committed to getting it up in your guts.
I love that.
Did you peg him at the end of the six months?
I love fucking man.
I love fucking man, yeah.
What about you?
Have you ever fucked a man?
Have you?
No, you've never done it.
Would you do it?
I'm not sure.
Not sure.
Okay.
Carpets on the walls.
So, okay, big, big secret about me.
I have one of the biggest penis envies in the whole entire world.
I really wish I had a penis.
I dream about it.
Sometimes I wake up and I check.
It's still not there.
So that's why for me, penetrating men is nice.
We are not getting this video monetized.
I just realized.
That's sad, though, because we haven't talked about anything.
We're not being lewd.
This is all You described in detail like what kind of pornographic scene you would have behind Adam Driver's, you know, because that's art.
That's true.
Avant-garde, for sure.
I think that's that is interesting, though, that we still have this, like, sex is still just considered like baseline lewd, even though everyone does it, right?
Like, we came around the corner on weed.
Everybody's okay with weed.
You can talk about weed and not get fucking, oh, that's so dangerous.
But sex is still like, oh, my God.
Yeah, there's still a stigma associated with it because of how puritanical people are.
Unfortunately, I think a lot of people in positions of power, like, you know, they didn't necessarily have like sexual, healthy sexual experiences.
So you just got to keep taking that L. You know, they just keep bringing that with them to the next generation.
That stigma continues.
And also, in a lot of instances, it's a, you know, we, we do kind of get off on like what we can tell women to do and not to do.
So it does, it does have like a patriarchal, misogynistic approach to like to sexuality.
And you see it, like men who have sex with a lot of women are still considered to be, you know, hustlers.
And Andrew Tate.
Do you guys know who Andrew Tate is?
Should be?
No, we're not even going to open it.
Yeah, we can pull up like what he looks like.
You might have seen him on TikTok if you have a TikTok.
Yeah, but he's just like a British dude.
He operates, he operates like a webcam business, but like it's very...
It's like he fucks a lot.
Why don't you talk about him?
No, he actually says he doesn't even like having sex with women.
He's just a massive misogynist.
He's popping off on TikTok a lot recently.
I debated him on.
There's kind of like an epidemic of young men who are like falling into the thought pattern of like misogyny.
Like old school misogyny.
Yeah.
How old is Kyle?
He's like 35 or 36 or something.
He lives in Romania and he has like a bunch of casinos.
He operates like a webcam business, which he like openly states he started by like grooming young women into like dating him.
And then he's like, yeah, do the webcam thing.
Very, very sus shit.
Not great at all.
And also he just like, he has a legion of young men who follow every word he says because it's just repeating the pattern of like old school misogynistic shit.
Like you own women.
My girlfriend is my pro if she were to do OnlyFans, I'd take 100% of her revenue because like that's mine.
Oh fuck, that's cute.
Yeah.
It seems like he watched Borat too many times and yeah.
Yeah.
He got kicked out.
And took it seriously.
Yeah.
I mean, he was a kickbox guy, so he might have been just hit a little too much.
No, but I've met, I'm not really, I'm really famous and how to say, like, seemingly liberated people.
Sure.
But they would try, like really surprised me with their concept about OnlyFans and their girlfriends.
They would be just like, this is not really appropriate.
And also you're scamming them because, you know, you have, you know, you also have a manager.
So you're basically just lying to them.
And I was like, I don't know.
I mean, like, I think mostly people who engage in on-defense, they know what's up.
So I don't think that there is a deceit here.
And also, I don't really understand why it makes guys uncomfortable if their partners engage in on-defense activity.
Yeah.
Well, I think OnlyFans is fascinating to me, right?
Because I think the disconnect for a lot of people on like why OnlyFans has exploded is I think there is a parasocial element to OnlyFans that is not like present in traditional porn, right?
Yes.
In traditional porn, it's very voyeuristic.
I fire it up.
I find a video that appeals to me visually and I watch that.
Maybe there's a plot line.
Maybe there's something I can immerse myself in.
Whereas OnlyFans, like there is a cultivated relationship between you and the performer.
And I think that is like a different element of human sexuality that has to be fulfilled, right?
Especially in an age where communication technology is so ubiquitous, but human interaction is so limited.
I think this is like a new kind of step in sex work where like it is that kind of like old school, almost like you were about to come to that conclusion.
It's like a, it's like a full circle.
It's like that old school, like interpersonal, like almost like human touch.
You're offering companionship over the internet to people.
I see you, even though like 50% of the people I know on OnlyFans outsource that interaction to Bangladesh.
Yeah, oh, for sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But also, like, I've seen the shit that people write on friends of mine and they're like OnlyFans.
Like, I feel like you would not be able to, like, no human being is equipped to be able to deal with that, like that level of horny.
So it does make sense to outsource it to someone.
Yeah.
Even if it's a, even if it's a woman somewhere else, you know what I mean?
Or a man, you kind of have to mediate that relationship.
Otherwise, like, you'll go fucking insane.
Yeah.
You're the one who exposed me to Turkish horny.
Oh, well, yes.
Turkish horn.
You know, on fans, like real sex, you can see real girls, real boys, and the result makeup and the normal position for sex and not like studio porn because studio porn, it's not an I agree with that.
That's why we like check pickup.
I'd like check pickup porn because I or more amateur stuff in general because like I feel like people are more into it.
And that's, I think that's part of the reason why like boyfriend, girlfriend stuff pops off a lot as well, because it seems more real.
It's like it's like someone actually coming, which is usually, you know, something that you can pick up on rather than people who are just like...
Do you have favorite couples on pornhop?
Do I have favorite couples?
Not really.
No.
I mean, I don't.
I love Lealolu.
Oh, Leolulu.
Yeah, they're great.
I've met them at, I think it was like the Pornhub Awards.
Yeah, Pornhub Awards.
Something interesting that happened to me.
We were in the UK.
I had like a subconscious effect where every time I got in one of their taxis, I got horny because of fake taxi.
Because of fake taxi.
And I didn't know that all their cabs looked like that.
And I would get in one and I'd be like, that's nice.
Sure or not.
Yeah.
What are you fucking giving it?
He wants a free ride then.
You go shut my knob, love.
I know.
My fucking apple pie is not working.
If you don't have the quids, you're going to need to suck me off, bro.
The worst part is my card wasn't working and I thought I was going to have to fuck my way out of that.
Yeah.
Sometimes you got to fuck your way out of a corner.
I know how this works.
Get that knob out.
You get ready.
You're like, all right.
All right.
I mean, both ways.
Exactly.
Your dick's going to evaporate by the end of this, sir.
I have a question.
So when you open Pornhub, what do you type there?
Oh.
I am such a bad browser.
I literally just go for whatever is popping.
Oh, that's bullshit.
No, mainstream, mainstream, open up like eight tabs.
Sometimes I'll go for.
Yes.
Sometimes I'll go for specific porn stars.
Like if I'm in the mood.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like our old friend, Raylo Black, before like I was a big, big fan of Raylo Black.
I would look her stuff up.
I've looked your stuff up before.
But other than that, it's just like whatever is on the spicy.
Or check pickup porn, like I've said.
Milking table, glory hole, gang bag.
You like glory hole?
I like that.
Glory hole is popular.
Yeah.
Gloria Hole is amazing.
Glory.
Last time I prefer pictures, you know, like hentai.
Yeah.
Hentai?
Yeah, hentai.
You like hentai.
Note video, like you see picture and you can read text and yeah, it's good.
That's interesting.
This is you're the second.
Well, we, I had Jenalyn Meowry and Peach Jars on, and they were talking about how they like tentacle shit too.
They like to get all their whole stuff.
I'm not a big monster fucker, but I like hentai.
I like hentai because the plot lines are insane.
No, I just like, I can't get into it.
I need more vanilla stuff in hentai.
Like, I feel like, first of all, I hate.
Dude, there's a hentai I read.
It was the most...
It was a woman who was trying to pay the rent for her husband.
They were about to get married.
She was ashamed of it.
She did a gangbang.
They're all wearing masks.
Mask comes off.
One of them is her husband.
No.
Oh, dude.
I was like, this is.
Okay, that's great, but that's good hentai.
Like, I would like that.
All the hentai I see is like pretty, it's just, it's not tame.
It's like insane usually.
It's always like weird shit.
Like when I, but I don't know like the specific website to go to to get the hentai, like the good shit, I guess.
Yeah.
Because that's what people keep telling me.
Like there is good hentai out there.
But everything I see, like the thing that frustrates me about hentai is that, first of all, if the artistic style I'm not into, if the drawings I'm not into, I'm not going to be able to come to that.
That's true.
Yeah.
And in a lot of circumstances, I feel like, first of all, the women, like they're just like, these are titties that will suffocate you.
They break the limit of science.
Yeah, you got like another thing.
You got like women that are walking into the room with their titties first.
Like tid is in for like 30 seconds before the woman enters.
I like the visual aesthetic of come.
And no one comes harder than hentai's.
That's true.
I don't like it.
It's like a wave.
What do you like in porn?
I know one popular opinion is that men's like porn because woman in porn very horny and she ready to fuck everyone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yes.
I like that.
Yeah.
I also like the indifference of fucking in some porns.
There's something about like the one with like a girl's playing like a video game and like horny like fiend comes in and he's like, she's cute.
Oh, go ahead.
I'm just going to finish my fucking game.
Like there's something about that level of indifference to sex that's very erotic to me.
Interesting.
I feel like that horny little gremlin.
No, I like when someone is horny, like a nympho.
You know what I mean?
That's definitely something maybe super basic.
I guess my porn taste is like very vanilla and very amazing, but you know, that's just, it is what it is.
Speaking of vanilla.
I mean, that's not necessarily getting horny, but it inspires me a lot in my sexual life.
Damn.
Speaking of vanilla, let's talk about sexual positions real quick.
Because so I used to date a sex worker, Janice Griffith, like way back in the day.
And one thing that I always had thought before that experience was that like, you know, oh, porn stars are like really into crazy stuff.
And this is like, I have limited experience, obviously, with this, but like I've met a lot of sex workers.
And one thing that I have seen that stood out to me specifically is like a lot of people don't do all like super kinky, super freaky shit in their personal life.
And I was wondering if that's something that is consistent with you guys as well.
Dating A Sex Worker00:06:18
Like, do you like really crazy?
I've never been half a year getting a man's ass ready.
Yeah, we know now that you're, but like when you're like, what's your, what's your favorite position?
For example.
Position and sex, you mean?
Yes.
I love doggy style.
It's my one is my favorite cow girl.
And I'm one is the one happiness girl because I can get orgasm in every position.
Happiness girl?
Yeah.
What is happiness, girl?
We don't know what happiness girl is.
I mean, what is going on?
Yes, I can come and every possible.
Oh, got it.
I thought Having his girl was a position.
I thought it was a position that I was lacking.
I was in my brother's car.
Marsh, look this shit up right now.
Billy Ray Brands, are you on this?
Are you writing this down?
Yeah.
Okay.
So you just like all positions.
What about you?
Do you have a specific favorite one or anything like that?
No, just I mean like all usual suspects, like I know five usual ones.
But well, I do not normally come with through sex.
I mean like through penetrative sex.
So then I always grab my vibrator and finish with that with help of someone where it's by myself.
I love making blowjob.
It makes me horny.
I fucking love making blowjobs.
Award hand jobs are fucking amazing.
That's great.
No, I agree.
I love receiving blowjob.
No, seriously, it's just me.
It can make me actually more horny to do a hand job.
I'm just angry.
Is that that level of control?
A lot of women say it's like the control where you have direct ownership of that guy's.
Yes.
I will literally write down my social security number.
You can make me do anything in that moment.
If my dick is in your mouth, I will do anything.
CIA mind control tag.
Yeah, exactly.
It's just like, okay, yeah.
You know what position I was big on?
I grew up watching wrestling.
So I always thought that you need to have a signature sex position.
So I was big on putting a girl on my shoulders and eating pussy like this.
I like that.
That's it.
That's a good idea.
The electric chair drop.
For me, my signature would 100% be bajok omza in Turkish.
Eating bone marrow?
It's like missionary, but like just like legs on legs on your shoulders.
How do you say that again?
I love that one.
Bajak Omza.
That's what I.
It just means literally legs on shoulder.
Speaking of Turkish, okay.
Baby, you ready for some legs on shoulder?
This is a good segue into what I was going to describe.
What I was going to talk about.
You guys are both Russian.
Yeah.
Siberian.
So you have, I'm sure.
Siberia is not entirely Russian.
So Siberians have a really weird sense of belonging inside of a bigger picture Russia.
And by the way, we could end up under criminal case for talking shit like that in Russia because there is a criminal article for separatism.
So if you say that Siberia is not really part of Russia, but I don't care.
I have so many criminal cases.
This is fine.
I feel weird segueing back into what do you think about Turkish man?
Oh, hey.
So do you know that?
Have you seen Siberia on the map?
Yes.
Do you know what shape it has?
What is the shape?
Look it up.
Look it up.
Siberia dick.
No.
Don't write dick.
I don't think we can show that.
Just write Siberia.
That's Sibera is what you wrote.
Siberia shape.
Oh!
Yeah, yeah.
You see?
That's a dick.
Wait, hold on.
On the right, the green one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Click that.
And it has come.
Wait, what?
So I'm from the head of the dick.
Oh!
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
That's crazy.
So, what's up?
You guys are from the balls or the cops?
You're from the shaft or the tip.
And it's coming, too.
I am from the top.
So you're from the frozen motherfucking part.
So I was like, at some point in my life, I was saying nobody can inspire me or surprise me with their dick because I'm from the dick.
Yeah.
That you have to spend four hours on a plane to get from one side to another.
Do you have super short days?
Yeah, this is super.
I mean in not every.
I'm born in Omsk.
It's a very sunny city, sunny every day, like because it's in the balls.
Yeah yeah, that would make me go.
Yeah, I would.
We, when we went to Europe uh recently um, as you can see, on the last episode, when we were in Amsterdam um, the sun would go down at 10 p.m and it freaked me the out, because here in Los Angeles the sun sets at like a normal hour, at eight in the summer, and that's what i'm used to.
So I can't even comprehend a world in which like, there's like three hours of of night time.
I would go insane.
Yeah yeah, but it's even worse when you don't have, don't see sun for three months in a row.
That would be even worse.
You're right.
And like, negative 30 degree temperatures um, minus 45 Celsius yeah, very cold, that's crazy.
45 below freezing, that's just.
That's not.
That's why they have the carpets on the wall.
Car is not working usually, you know.
Yeah yeah it's, it's so.
What do you do in?
What do you?
What do you do for fun in that situation.
You're just like we're stuck here.
Stay at home yeah, exactly.
Well um yeah, was when I was growing up.
There were just basically two paths um like, one path was to just get drunk constantly or just start taking hard drugs.
You remember, when it's very cold outside, you can go to the school.
Yeah sometimes, for like a few months in a row, you don't go to school because it's too cold.
We got snow days, they got snow year.
Oh, it's snow year.
No school this year.
It's so much World Of Warcraft holy yeah oh, my god.
So the first, first path was to take drugs or drink a lot of vodka and, like a lot of my classmates did that.
Um, so we had a current epidemic because of that.
And second path was to just become bookworm, and I did that.
Snow Days And Vodka00:02:34
Or twitch, watching twitch, which is a good segue.
Marsh, you won't pull that up.
You had a video where you congratulated Simple and Navi, I believe, for their yeah um, for their victory.
Simple is my friend yeah, yeah.
So uh, simple for those of you who don't know, is is absolutely cracked at.
Uh, Cs Go, which is like uh, I think it's just like epigenetic uh, Eastern European yeah uh, Slav thing.
I don't know what it is, but it's just straight up.
Everyone from that region, also Turkey, is just so good.
Discord oh, it's in the tele.
Quick, there it is.
So you had this to say.
Let's take a look.
Adult film star Eva Elfie congratulated, yeah in Russian.
And you're giving free feet too.
Let the piggies breathe.
You know, so are you.
So you're friends with Simple.
Are you a fan in general of Twitch at all or no?
Nope.
I'm only watching Kesco and Daughter 2.
And yeah, we chose on Instagram and I know him girlfriend.
She's from Russia.
He's from Ukraine.
I think we will see in Singapore in October in international.
Oh, nice.
Okay.
That's cool.
So you're not a fan.
What about you, Nadi?
You don't watch any Twitch?
A little bit of Hannah.
Except for my stream, of course.
She watches.
Your stream, Hannah, this is pretty much it.
Who's Hannah?
Hannah.
She's a singer.
Yeah.
She's great.
I love her.
Yeah.
Billy Ray Brains.
Of course.
He's dancing to her stream right now.
She's dope.
I really recommend you.
They've done a song, We Appreciate Power with Grams, so you might not hear by the show.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Her music is really dope.
Okay.
I like Twitch.
I never have time to watch it to be honest.
Yeah, but I don't have time to.
Yeah.
But I want to make a Twitch and play video games and talking with my fans.
It will be nice.
Yeah, there's a lot of...
Twitch Streams And Music00:06:18
You're a gamer, right?
Yep, I love it.
But you know what?
How did you play?
Godafar, Last of Us, 2 and The First.
And you know, I like playing on the Switch because I'm traveling a lot and I missed my PlayStation.
Yeah.
And the last game, it was like a girl in the hat and going on the boat and taking people and animals on the boat.
Animal Crossing?
No, no, no.
I have no idea what that is.
Girl on a boat.
Is it a PlayStation game or a Switch game?
Taking animals on a boat.
Spirit Fire.
Spit Fire.
Spirit Fire.
Spirit Fire?
I don't know.
I have no idea what that is.
God damn.
It's indie game.
Do you play Dota?
You mentioned Dota.
No.
No, you just watch it.
No.
Yep.
All right.
I want to try to play.
That's the game?
No, that is brand from League of Legends.
Spirit Fires.
Or Spitfire?
Or Spirit Fire?
Spirit Fire Switch?
Can you type in that?
Or indie game.
Oh, Spirit Farer.
Oh.
I've never heard of this game before.
Looks cute.
Yeah.
I'm about to play Digimon Survive.
I'm a Digimon guy.
I hate Digimon.
Why?
I fucking hate it.
When I was a kid, for some weird reason, I don't know why I had so much brand loyalty to Pokemon.
But like when Digimon came around, I was like, what the fuck is this janky shit?
Wanna be?
I'm gonna be like a Pepsi guy.
You gotta be like a country.
Fuck that.
I hate Pepsi too.
It's delicious.
Pepsi is better than Coke.
It's sweeter.
It's delusional.
It's a sweeter beverage.
You literally have delusions, right?
You drink Coke Zero.
Don't even act like a fucking bro.
No, a DC baby.
I'm a DC boy all day.
Diet Coke.
Oh, wow.
Diet Coke all day, every day.
Like when people say, like, oh, we have Pepsi, especially like Diet Pepsi is so gross.
I'm like, ugh.
Just fucking give me water, dude.
Do you drink that shit?
That shit?
That shit.
Diet Coke.
Coke or Pepsi.
This is our true go on the diet.
Yes.
It's our true Coke.
Oh, you're fascinating.
Yeah, I just drink much.
I prefer water.
But what do I do?
I prefer red wine.
Cool.
Smart.
Did you play a best trending?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
What do you think?
It was a disappointment.
It was good.
It was not.
Unfortunately, it's not, you know, Hideo's best work.
I won't be political.
That game sucked.
I played it right after I got a surgery, so I had like a week to just sit and play.
And I was so ready for it.
I was the biggest Metal Gear Solid.
Yeah.
We're both huge.
I was sick coronavirus 20 years ago and I can't stop to play.
I'm playing all the night, all the day.
Like I'm going to walk and I'm playing nine hours, ten hours.
Yep.
I just, I kept waiting for it to be more than it was.
Yeah.
I kept waiting for it to like the boss fights are one of the most disappointing, just bobbing grenades, not gonna be awesome.
Yeah, yeah, mechanically, it was, it was underwhelming for sure.
And there was a lot of filler, which was surprising because I think Kojima is like known for jam-packing and having Easter eggs in like every facet of a video game.
Have you ever played Metal Gear Solid 3?
Snake Eater?
Nope, but they want to try it.
Greatest.
One of the greatest games of all time.
Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, 3 are probably the greatest 3P, greatest video game series of all time.
Another one.
Yeah.
He just did it.
Four and five or even four and five like rides on the wave.
You like Diablo.
You like Diablo.
Yeah, by the way.
I'm the biggest Diablo fan in the world.
He loves Diablo.
Yeah.
I love Diablo.
I had my own Siberian experience because my parents didn't like when I was playing video games.
So they put my computer above the garage in like northern New Jersey.
So in the winter, I would have like a blanket on and I would have like the heater and I'd have my feet in the heater and I'd be playing Diablo.
Very dedicated.
Oh, I was dedicated.
One game, kill me.
It's Caprot.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, yeah.
Fuck.
Yeah.
Very difficult.
I don't, I'm not like super big into very mechanical games like that, I would say.
Because like, I just don't have enough time to sweat it, like to get really good at it.
You like from soft games.
I do.
That's the only time I allow myself to like really indulge and really get good at a game that's a single player game, especially.
Because I love from software games.
Have you ever played like Dark Souls or I know?
Nope.
Don't get started.
That's so good.
That's like going down the drug path.
It's so fucking good.
But yeah, my story for Dota, I used to play Dota in Turkey and we'd go to like, you know, internet cafes and like do land parties and whatnot.
And my parents in Turkey did not allow me to play video games on the internet because they thought like pedophiles will kidnap me or something.
Like, you know how parents are.
They like see one news article and they're like, oh, this is going to happen.
Like drug.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pedophiles are going to kidnap this person.
Remember when they thought Pokemon destroys your brain?
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There was another news story in Turkey.
I don't know if you guys have anything similar in Russia, but there was, what was it?
Oh, because of Pokemon, a kid jumped out of an apartment building.
Oh, God.
That was the meme.
They said that like kids are going to start jumping out of apartment buildings because they think they're ball bazaar, which is not even a character that fucking.
That Pokemon can't even fly.
He doesn't fly, right?
Yeah, I know.
But that was, but that doesn't matter.
But like what, what else?
Like, I just, I'm just dying.
So you first, you're a bad parent, and then you accuse video games or Pokemon for your kid jumping out of the building.
I mean, like, did you try to talk to your kid?
But suicide prevention?
No, of course not.
In the United States, absolutely not.
No, yeah, in Turkey either.
No, no, that was not happening.
Video Games And Suicide00:09:02
Are you playing on Overwatch or Fortnite?
Yeah, I played a lot of Overwatch when it first came out.
I haven't played the new Overwatch at all.
No, I have not.
Overwatch 2 is just Overwatch, though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
One last question before we end the podcast.
Sure.
This has been a wonderful experience.
And thank you guys so much for coming.
Who is the and you can totally say no to this if you don't want to answer?
Who's the most famous but like weirdest person who's slid into your DMs?
What you get a lot of that?
You don't have to say it if you don't want to.
Kim Jong-il.
Big fan.
Tiger.
Taiga.
What was his move?
He wrote me when I was in Siberia in Omsk, and he wrote me, You're in LA.
Nope, I'm in Russia.
It was so sad.
Okay.
It was so sad.
Yeah.
So you would have hung out with him.
Yep.
Lana Rhodes.
Maybe we make together a stream on Pornhub with Lana Rhodes, Angela White, Lena Plock.
Yep.
That's an all-star.
That is a big star started.
That's like the dream team.
Adam22 is in the background.
Like, hey, what's up?
My dick's involved, maybe.
You know, hey, look at that.
Hey, what's up?
Hey, what's going on?
I'm Adam 22.
That shocked me when I saw Adam 22 doing porn.
I didn't know he did porn, and I saw a porn with him, and I was like, that guy looks like Adam 22.
And I was like, yeah, there's a vision of the visible tattoo.
Lisa Simpson on his head.
I was like, that is Adam 22.
Yeah, he was.
Which one was it?
Was he getting double sucked by Lena and Riley Reid?
Listen.
That's the one I saw.
Listen, probably.
Yeah, because that's the one I saw.
And I was like, it makes the most sense.
I saw that and immediately was like, of course, he's doing porn.
That makes the most sense.
And Jew, you know, Ju, it's electronic music, and he's from his, I don't know, he lives in LA right now.
And I love his music.
And he writes me on Instagram, like, let's make a movie together.
Like, oh, not porn movie, you know.
Like marriage story with Adam Driver.
Yeah, but in the background.
I have a new song and I want to invite you to my movie.
Oh, oh my gosh, I don't believe I love him.
And he write me.
Cool.
Yeah, it was nice.
Cool.
What about you?
It's not specifically about DMs on the fence, right?
Yeah.
It's not.
No, it's just anywhere.
Who's like the yeah, who's like the most famous slash like weirdest interaction you've had on social media?
Any of them?
Well, I'm going to be really contextual, but I think the fact that that moment when I realized that both Bernie Sanders and AOC follow me, that was probably the biggest for me.
But Bernie.
Yeah, you think Bernie was trying to slide?
Yeah.
Nadia.
Listen, I am once again asking you to prepare my ass for six months.
I loved what you said on the Fear End podcast about anal preparation.
I mean, he'd die.
He would die.
Gotta be GG's for Bernie.
But what a way to go.
Yeah.
Please peg me.
I'm Bernie Sanders.
What a final chapter to a great man's.
No, I meant like, I meant like someone sliding into your DMs.
Like, Daniel, like, I mean, like, sliding in terms of like, people don't normally know when someone comes in like this.
Talk about nothing.
Oh, hey, Nadia, what's on?
Yeah, it doesn't really happen with me.
Like, people are just scared of me.
That's crazy.
No way.
Really?
I have a feeling then that you don't realize people are trying to hit on you.
Yeah, no show.
I do.
Oh, do you think people are intimidated then?
For the most part, yeah.
Has anybody ever been arrested with you when they were trying to hook up with you?
Oh, it did happen.
Yeah.
Of course.
My man just trying to get pegged straight to jail.
He's getting pegged for real.
No, listen, listen, brother.
We've all been there.
Okay.
Sometimes you do things that are unspoken, unspeakable.
Thank God he warmed his ass up for getting a crumb.
But my favorite thing that the person did to later have sex with me was to, well, you're not going to be happy about it, but we provided arms to Ukraine.
So we raised $7 million.
Wow.
Oh, last time we talked about it, you were just not happy with the American government sending arms to Ukraine.
No, no, no.
This is more nuanced.
$7 million to send very much.
He did that for a couple of years.
You think he did that just to get late?
That's what he admitted later.
That's so funny.
My God.
It's funny for him to be like, I'm going to come clean.
I don't even know where Ukraine fucking is.
I couldn't find it on a microphone.
I do not care about this at all.
I was just trying to get some.
$7 million of AK-47s later?
Worth it.
Yeah, I mean, respect.
Well, that's a beautiful note to end it on.
That's the greatest.
That's the greatest thing I've ever heard.
Yeah.
Fear and arms trafficking.
Yeah.
That's the name of this episode.
No, we can't do that.
This is not being monetized.
No shot.
Susan.
I'm sorry, Susan.
Susan, we're sorry.
Susan, we're sorry.
Yeah.
But what a wonderful, what a wonderful episode, too.
We got some more bangers coming, you know?
I would probably supply arms to Ukraine for some.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Well, good to know.
But thanks again, guys.
Where can people find you?
What are your social media?
Is there anything you want to promote?
It's about TikTok and Instagram.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
Pop up.
Say that.
And I have YouTube, but only on Russian, it's like sex education for Russia.
Oh, really?
Very cool.
And I have English subs, but if you want to try it.
What's the name of it?
You are Elfie?
It's easy.
Nadia?
My Instagram, Nadia Red.
That is deeply shadow banned right now because of me actually supporting Ukraine for posting Ukrainian flag and being just like, I hate what Russian army does in Ukraine and for posting some bombings of buildings.
I'm super, super deeply shadow banned.
I've gotten hit with that too for saying that Lauren Bobert, you know who that is?
American congressperson doing a photo shoot with her children all holding up weapons.
Comparing that to ISIS child soldiers apparently was too far for Instagram.
Yeah.
Al-Qaeda.
Yeah.
But anyway, I mean, like, one day I'm not going to be shadow banned and you still can go follow me, Nadia Red.
And Twitter would be nice as well.
It's pussy right, but I have three R in the name.
Well, you cannot promote it here, but I do have OnlyFans.
And I'm prepared to make it.
You can promote it here.
Yeah.
On the podcast, you can.
You can't do it on Twitch, but you can promote the hell out of here.
Great.
So it's in my link tree.
You can find my link three everywhere.
We'll figure out if she can.
And if you see a man in a bear costume, just know.
That's the sound.
Not me.
Not someone else.
Definitely not.
It might look like me.
I'm prepared to merge with a logo like make love's not war, but it was like one years ago.
And we planned to open our sales on merch around February, like when I started war.
And it is bullshit because it's Russian.
You can say war, you know, on social media.
It was a big problem.
And I had a t-shirt with make love, not war.
Oh my gosh.
Yes.
I felt that.
Yeah.
You go to jail after 15 years for saying war.
It's, yeah.
Jesus, yeah.
Right now, time for realizes.
Yeah, good.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you for coming on.
And we'll see you next time, folks.
Will you have any closing words, parting words for us?
What an episode.
Yeah.
What an episode.
What a wild journey we went on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is, I mean, the difference between the Minecraft episode and this episode is amazing.
Alarming.
We're giving you variety, but listen, if you enjoy this variety, if you enjoy what we do, please go follow all those links that these young women mentioned.
Go support them.
They were fantastic guests.
Make sure you hit the bell, the subscribe, all that fucking accoutrement that goes with streaming and social media and bullshit like that.
And RSS feeds, right?
We're going to, we're, we're all over.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're on audio platforms as well.
What would you say if you heard that we were making a nearly nude calendar?