Will and Carl recount their chaotic TwitchCon Amsterdam experience, detailing George's arrest by security amid allegations of assault and financial struggles involving shoe payments. They contrast the event with VidCon exclusions, discuss Dutch linguistic efficiency, and share personal anecdotes like Carl's tarantula death. The "Rose and Thorn" segment highlights meeting creators like Rubius versus grievances over visa denials for Turkish streamers and awkward lounge interactions, ultimately reflecting on the difficulties of maintaining friendships amidst rising fame. [Automatically generated summary]
That's more than I made for the entirety of our last podcast.
I'm going to kill you.
Okay, listen.
You guys know I got paid in shoes for a year of podcasting.
Okay, that's true.
We did add for boner pills.
We did.
I got paid in shoes.
Yeah, we never got paid.
We never, we got paid like no.
That's not true.
We got paid a minuscule amount.
And my son signed what's called a bad contract.
Okay, shut the fuck up.
All right.
We have a production story.
I don't believe it.
After...
What?
Are you for real right now?
Yeah, I'm ordering food.
I'm starving.
Wait, are we still?
I keep trying to.
This is the rocket.
This is part of our shit.
I've just been watching in awe.
Is this mic in my podcast?
This is what our podcast is.
His arm is in your face.
Is my mic throwing?
I'm going to try that intro again.
Jesus Christ.
Hey, dude, thanks so much for building podcasting.
Jesus.
Listen, after what seems like forever, a podcast that everyone thought was gone is back and we are in the water.
We're on the water right now.
On the water in Amsterdam.
It's not rocking, but we are on the canal.
That's right.
We have so many guests today.
So many guests.
You have so many guests that you can't even tell how many guests we have in here right now.
You want to pan over and show everybody?
Oh, I'm getting everything on this.
Yeah.
But we came out to Amsterdam with a hope and a dream.
And a dream.
Originally, I was like, we're going to go to the UK first, and we're going to film promo for the podcast.
Oh, yeah.
And Will was like, no, that's not going to happen.
If that is honestly the way that you perceive those events unfolding, you might be smoking crack.
I thought that we would be able to shoot promos in the UK and then shoot a podcast either in the UK or in Amsterdam.
Respectfully, he did give you a both of you.
The way that you framed it was like, I was ready to go.
Will was the holdup there.
No, no, no.
We didn't prepare well enough for this for sure.
No, no, no.
But we're here.
But ultimately, it worked out.
Somehow we ended up on a beautiful boat with beautiful people, two gentlemen that have helped us tremendously.
Immense pirates gentlemen.
Scholars.
Birthday week.
It's my birth week if you're watching.
And if you're watching Not Live.
It was a fucking month.
Birth month.
Birth month.
How about it?
So the name of this first episode is Fear and TwitchCom.
Let me take that again.
Nice try.
I'm Rusty.
He nailed it.
Fear and TwitchCon Amsterdam.
And we all have just finished our experience and our time here in Amsterdam at TwitchCon.
How did you guys enjoy it?
It was my first TwitchCon at all.
Also, not even.
I'm sorry to hear that, man.
Yeah, well, no, it was good.
It's probably your last.
Yeah, it definitely was.
That's what they told me.
If Twitch had anything to do with that, they told me they're not allowing you ever again.
Carl almost got ejected from Twitch Rivals multiple times.
Yeah.
No, like more times than I could put on my shit.
You almost got ejected for life multiple times throughout the process.
You kept jumping around.
I'm a jumper.
On the IRL streams that we did.
Have you always been a jumper?
Yeah.
No, I started out.
I was actually born on a tree and then I had to climb down it to be kind of part of life.
Carl is this way.
Even outside when the cameras are off, Carl is looking to risk his life at any point.
Well, yeah, it's mostly what I'm trying to do.
It's never for cool shit.
It's like always just.
You know what it is for?
It's to feel something again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You've just burnt out all your endorphins and you're looking down.
It's all gone.
Yeah, I feel you.
Well, I have to say, I came in with, I mean, I would say low expectations just because I was so burnt out from going to the UK.
And I like the UK, but Amsterdam is.
He does not like the UK.
UK is a bit draining.
He's lying.
He does not like the UK.
The UK is perfect.
It was too hot.
But listen, Amsterdam has exceeded all my expectations in every possible way.
And I don't think I'm the only one saying that.
I don't even have expectations from Amsterdam, to be honest.
I didn't know what the heck I was getting into.
Didn't know I was in the Netherlands until I got here.
Okay, yeah, sure.
Full transparency.
And that's not a bad thing.
That's just because I don't know anything.
You were just sending it to Narnia.
You said I'm going there.
I don't care where it is.
It was the same way because I just went to VidCon.
I just went to like three different away Mr. Beast shoots.
Got it.
Like, I was all over the place.
I've been home for three days out of the past three weeks.
So I was not even looking forward to this.
Where's home?
Just Doctor.
North Carolina.
But like, exactly.
Exactly.
What address would your home be?
Send him Hassan address.
Oh, okay.
That's different.
Awesome.
How did you enjoy this?
Your time.
Thank you for asking, Will.
My time was fantastic from top to bottom.
You sound like Donald Trump again.
You're just an Uber the other day, and then he's like, Excuse me, sir.
He was French.
He was French and he was living here.
Don't be offended, but you sound exactly like Donald Trump.
No, I think he's stuck.
You know, like when you do an accent for a while and then you become a part of you.
No, but it's been a great event.
I've met a lot of people.
Mr. Not Found, how'd you enjoy your time?
This is my first event ever.
Yeah.
Like literally ever.
First time I left his house.
True.
And to be clear, he slept through almost all of it.
Yeah.
I woke up at 4 p.m. pretty much both days.
I got detained by security.
Yeah, that was kind of traumatic.
Yeah, that was a problem.
By the way, it was him and Twitch staff.
Yeah, Twitch.
Staff got detained for some reason.
They thought we were fans or something.
It was George and our partner manager.
Yeah.
Or my partner.
It's not even his partner.
It's not mine.
But Papa, that was great.
Aside from being detained.
Yes.
I actually found out that the guy that detained him got fired.
Really?
So that would be awesome.
I don't know if this is possible.
We should cut that.
Okay.
Cut that out, but he definitely got that for the podcast.
Yeah, he got escorted out of the building.
Let's keep it ironically.
They beat his ass, apparently.
Let's cut that.
And his name?
Wait, did he actually?
Yeah, he did.
He literally got it.
Say his name.
Okay, so basically, TLDR, the security that ran for TwitchCon, they worked for them, and they weren't happy with how they treated it.
They were really rude to you.
Let's just get cut.
That's actually funny because actually I want to say it now.
Is it going to get cut or not?
Because I feel like it's going to get cut.
Let's move on then.
I'm kidding.
We're not cutting that.
Everything is staying.
I'm getting in trouble with Twitch.
Okay, well, too late.
So, what are you going to do?
Miss out on a stream deal?
Oh, God.
I already did that.
Being on Twitch.
How's it going?
He's not wrong.
He's very.
Prove me wrong.
Go ahead.
Let's do it.
Let's get it going.
Twitch, if you're watching and you're like, oh man, that's such a terrible thing Carl did.
Yeah, prove him wrong.
Prove me wrong for real.
Prove him wrong by giving me the fattest contract anyone.
Prove me wrong by giving it to me.
No, no, no.
Facebook is already begging for Hassan.
He was telling me.
Yeah, they are.
Like millions.
They're like, we'll give you 50 million.
YouTube is like, no, 100.
Twitch, Twitch is like 25 grand.
100 million.
Twitch, Twitch is like, here, we'll give you a bag of Cheetos.
We'll let you participate in Twitch rivals.
No, we'll force you to do that in your contract.
You know, it's funny.
We're not supposed to talk about our contracts and whatnot.
And I'll just say this one part.
You're going to do it.
I'll just say this one part, but like, actually, I won't say it.
Never mind.
I decided I should have done it.
Do it.
Do it.
No.
You can't be that guy.
You got to.
Okay, Twitch contracts, like literally, everything has to be negotiated, including down to like your travel arrangements.
Like that needs to be in your contract.
That was my favorite part of my contract.
Wait, what is it?
You contractually had to be here.
No, well, yes, of course.
I contractually had to be here, but I do love the TwitchCons.
Like, I do enjoy going to them, so I would go to them regardless.
I loved it.
I loved meeting people.
That was kind of the highlight of it is just shaking hands.
I'll do you one better.
Yeah.
I went to VidCon last week or something.
I don't remember.
It's all blur.
Yep.
TwitchCon is far away better than VidCon.
Not even close.
Way better.
And the difference is that VidCon, I wasn't allowed to go into VidCon.
Oh, yeah.
Because I was a featured creator.
Yeah.
You're too famous for them.
They literally was like, oh, you're too like.
So they're like, you dumb up the worst.
To be fair, I understand that we might like creating a lot of people.
I understand.
When we pulled up on your meet and greet, they were basically like, please don't be here.
Please get out of here.
Wait, then I ran in and I started yelling.
Were you pissed, Carl?
Were you mad at me?
I wasn't pissed, but I felt bad because the girl that I was doing a meet and greet.
By the way, for the context, I was doing a meet and greet at TwitchCon.
Yeah.
And me and George are talking to this girl.
She's actually telling me how much I impacted her life.
Like she's going deep into how much I impacted her life.
And then I just hear obstacles.
Carl!
And I'm like, oh, what's up, Dan?
Hey, Carl, everyone.
Because I'm like, oh, thank you so much.
Carl, look at her.
Hey!
Hey, Carl.
I'm like, that impression is getting better and better, dude.
No, we're slowly but surely nailing the awesome.
My voice is slowly starting to be like a voice that people impersonate.
Once they figured out the MIX!
It was all downhill for Mary.
Mix!
I'm pretty good at the MIX.
You are pretty good at the Mix.
Dude, here's the trick, though.
If someone nails the impression, it magically unlocks something in everyone's brains, I feel like.
And I think Myth opened that door.
Yeah, he did, because I've never been an impersonatable person.
Yeah.
He did that one time and immediately something clicked in my brain.
Now I can kind of do it.
Yeah.
Do it.
Yeah.
Well, I was doing it.
Minx.
Yeah, that's good.
Guys, he's like this.
Manx.
Minx.
Wow, he's really good at it.
You know what that guy?
I gotta like being a person.
I've never been impersonated before.
Austin, Austin, you were in Hog Heaven.
Let's talk about you for a second.
Hog Heaven, which is also your favorite.
Well, I'm about to be tonight, hopefully.
Yeah.
Fingers crossed.
Okay, we're gonna get it.
It's a good downtown.
You know what's weird?
Hog Heaven was my nickname in high school.
It's when there's cough in your face, George.
Yeah.
Well, no, that's not what I meant, actually.
What that was.
I was just saying that you were having a fantastic time.
Yes.
And what I mean by that is that what Hog Heaven means?
Would you shut up, Carl?
Just let it ride, bro.
Oh, my God.
I feel like that's a bit of a fucking grunt.
That's the one that ends the momentum, in my opinion.
Yeah, it really is a nickname in high school, and now he's realizing his nickname might have been Dick and Face, which is.
I'm sorry.
It's going to be all right.
Anyway, no, this is like, you love it.
I mean, I love meeting fans, obviously.
I talk about all the time about how, like, you know, we wouldn't be able to do any of this shit without you guys watching, you know, subscribing.
Sure.
Hopefully to the Patreon when we release the Patreon.
Please.
When we do our best, Hassan, here's the deal.
You leaked it.
I didn't leak anything.
We're going to cut that.
We're going to beep that part.
When we release our pleasure, like you said, I'm going to act like you said a slur.
Why did you say that, Will?
Okay.
Continue.
I love meeting people because I just, it's so incredible to me that I grew up and I nobody cared about me.
I mean, people care about me, of course.
That sounds morbid than you, but nobody, nobody like cared about me.
You know what I mean?
Like, strangers didn't care about me.
And then I meet all the and I put faces to like, you know, take chatters and put faces to chatters.
It's incredible.
And they come up.
Nobody likes attention more than Austin.
I'll tell you this.
When we're walking, when we're not walking in the convention, I swear to God, if he sees somebody that might be his demographic, he can tell.
He moves towards the face.
He thinks they might notice him.
He'll walk towards him and then he'll make eye contact.
Because once you make eye contact, that's when you know you recognize somebody.
So you'll be like.
It's true.
It's looking for Austin Joe.
You know what?
That was the biggest letdown for this convention is the fact that I didn't walk out of the fan entrance today as we left.
We snuck out the back door and there was a front part where everybody was going.
We had a boat to catch and Austin just wanted to shut it all down.
It was actually kind of cool though.
That was the first time in my life.
Well, VidCon is kind of similar to that experience where they have like they escort you everywhere, right?
Like when you go.
No, no, no.
It's I, you were like, the genuine truth is, VidCon for me was literally getting escorted through tunnels, going into the back of a room that also still didn't have fans, and then leaving that one to go back through the tunnels to go back to your hotel.
Carl and I had our meet and greet there.
Oh, except, yeah, I did a meeting.
When I'm overheated, I don't function as a human being.
That's like when I shut down.
Yeah, yeah.
Austin is in his prime when he's overheated.
He's always trying to get overheated.
Wait, me?
What do you mean?
You would, dude.
I swear to God, like, you would swan dive into a crowd and let them eat you alive.
If it, if it, dude, we were doing a meet and greeting.
That's just fantasy death.
I swear to God.
Just like when he's like, you know, 98 years old, he wants to like dive into a crowd of fans and have them just kill him.
Tramp him to death.
Yeah.
Look, look, here's how Austin Austin gets.
I was doing the meet and greet at VidCon, and he crashed it.
And it was me and Austin doing a meet and greet together.
And then at the end of it, after two hours of meeting people, wasn't enough for him.
He then ran through the crowd.
I think of Nikki's meet and greet.
Of Nikki's meet and greet and just kept going.
He's like, I love it, Carl.
Nick isn't even here.
Why are you screaming your name?
I love it, man.
It's my favorite thing.
It's my favorite part of the job.
I'm telling you, it's my favorite part.
I love going to conventions and running through crowds.
The other thing about you that I absolutely love now that I felt for one second.
Sure.
Remember from the other thing I love about you?
Here you go.
You know the code, right?
Well, I mean, it's.
Just do your face ID.
Dude.
Okay, keep this.
Keep this.
This is the funniest thing I was saying.
The long-distance face ID.
Dude, hey, dude, can you unlock this for me, please?
Yeah.
Hey, Will, can you unlock this for me?
I'm trying to do it.
Haunted Boiler Room Face ID00:05:49
It's not focused.
Okay, you want to know something funny?
You want to know something about face ID, actually?
We're going to get back to you.
Don't forget what you were going to say.
Is there another switch?
My face has changed so dramatically because of my beard and my hair and stuff.
Sometimes it doesn't recognize my face when I do the iPhone.
Is this iPhone getting Nikki's beard cuts grows out?
Yeah.
It's bad.
It's really hard to detect.
I keep just making direct eye contact with you.
He looks great with a beard, though.
I don't know why you cut it.
He sat directly across from him.
It's very soulless to look at a camera.
You feel like a one-man audience.
Yeah, every time something's going to be like, yeah.
All right, take it at the top where you're going to say something that you like about it.
We can do the audience.
Let's go back to Austin.
Let's go back to what really matters.
Yeah, what Will likes about it.
Yeah, what I like about Austin.
Having worked with Austin, my favorite thing about him is no matter how perturbed or like out of shape his mind gets when he's like being stressed by something, you know, he'll be like, God damn it, son of a bitch.
As soon as like someone shows up or the camera goes on, he's like, ha!
Hello!
How are we doing?
Oh, dude, when he sees his reflection, when he sees anything, he immediately, he cannot look at himself like a normal human.
No, you, you know, he fixed his hair in my life.
He's a born showman.
Like, he just immediately turns.
No, I'm kidding.
He's kidding right now.
He's like a Pavlovian response.
He spent like half an hour setting up the lighting for his love of host and money.
Excuse me, George.
Is this a shit on Austin?
But I did it.
That is true, though.
That is literally true.
Yeah, but George, we were streaming from like a horse stable.
No, it's not.
My house is nice.
He has a nice house.
I don't know why Austin is saying that.
Wait, wait, wait a minute.
It's good.
It's nice.
It is nice.
It's not.
It's like...
Hassan likes it.
I like it.
It's like a quaint little apartment if he didn't leave his shit everywhere.
Like, that's...
I don't know how to do it.
Yeah, I do agree with that.
George, you are very mad.
I'm not sure if I can do it.
No, that's cool.
That's the light.
Oh, that's cool.
Oh, beers?
No, my toilet wouldn't flush.
Yeah, I love a beard.
I don't know.
You've done it without a service.
What the fuck is going on?
Austin just sitting in the dark.
The flush is just messing up the electricity.
Yeah.
No, I'm this wiring.
I thought it was cool.
Like, I thought it was cool that it's like old school.
You like click on.
I haven't had that in a while.
It's really British.
Yeah, some cool lay with a ton of lights on it.
It humbles you.
Yeah, because houses are from like 1400s.
That's why.
My house is fucking old.
Thank you so much.
I just realized I never want to do that.
It's just address, location, just, you know, go ahead, say it directly to the camera.
I live at...
Yeah.
But it's like fucking 600 years old, I think.
Yeah.
And it's haunted.
I'm convinced it's haunted.
Because downstairs, they have this room, which they never go into, and it never will.
And I have to turn on the boiler.
The room.
It's very scary.
There's like old gym equipment in it.
No, no, that's not.
That's not haunted gym equipment.
That's just the landlord's.
That's just his.
It's like old.
And there's a boiler room in there.
And I went in there.
And do you know how boiler rooms normally are really warm?
Yeah.
That one was freezing.
Okay.
That's really unusual.
It is strange.
But no, like...
You should film from there.
Hey, film some crazy.
It is pretty creepy.
And it's like a, there's a, no, it's the kids' playroom that creeps me out.
What?
Wait, so why do you have a kid in the boiler room?
The playroom in the boiler room?
And there's only a window to lead into the house.
It's like it's very British to put the kids' toy room in the boiler room.
It's such a British thing.
1400s.
Yeah.
Like the main house.
And then it's kind of like elevated, so the garden is like lower down.
So beneath the conservatory and the living room, there's like two basement type.
Do you live in a clue board, sir?
Oh my god, I was gonna.
I'm feeling Professor Plum right now.
Honestly, you're dressed like him.
Come on.
Come on, huh?
That's my go-to.
It's like a genuinely really old house.
I don't know what a boiler room is.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
So the boiler room.
It's where they boil the children's heat.
It provides heat.
Why don't you just use a gas heater?
I think it is.
5 head.
Yeah, the kids play and then they boil them in the boiler room.
No, but there's like this.
You heat their house.
There's this room that we don't use because you can't actually get to it without going outside onto the garden down with a key.
But it's like an old children's playroom.
Like there's like one of the walls is just a blackboard that they can just write onto it.
No, no, that's haunted.
The children's playroom is next to the boiler room and you can't even access it from the house.
No, you have to go down.
That's haunted.
That is haunted.
That's haunted.
And the thing is, I was.
At one time, I was like, I was just like sat watching TV on the sofa and like I fell asleep.
We need to do a Ghostbusters episode in your house.
It's fucking weird.
It is a little bit weird.
And I heard like two like young sort of like girls like giggling.
And I like shh.
I was like, I wasn't asleep, but I was like, you know, like, I'm at that point where like maybe I was dreaming, but like I didn't think I'd fallen asleep.
And I like, shut up.
I like shut up.
I like, and I've not even attempted to sleep down there since.
Like it fucked me up.
Like it's a little bit like weird.
That's just that's just how England is traumatized.
It made me feel like.
Like I didn't feel like I was in danger, but I was just like, oh, I don't want to be here.
So I don't like, I always, like, if I feel like I'm about to fall asleep, I go upset.
That's the one advantage of America is that like all the houses are built in like at least in the 70s, you know what I mean?
So it doesn't have the seven generation curse associated with it.
Like every house in England.
It's the home street to the building.
Traumatizing British Slang Words00:08:15
Yeah, exactly.
Like think about it.
Think about it.
When your houses were built in like the 16th century, that means there's been murders in there.
Okay?
Multiple.
So many murders, curses, family lineages, like destroyed.
Ouija boards.
Think about the Ouija boards in the bloodlines of everybody.
Dude, that shit would look like...
Oh, Ouija board stream in the playroom.
No, no, no, no.
Let's open up the cage.
I refuse to touch that.
Bro, that shit, you know what that would be like?
It would be like the fucking Chernobyl, like, runtime meter.
It would be like.
It would be going crazy.
It wouldn't know which.
Yeah, yeah.
It wouldn't know which fucking spirit to talk to.
It'd be like, I don't know, mate.
It's going crazy.
It'd be overstimulated.
The British ghosts have a British accent, obviously.
Yeah, for sure.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I had a question for the Brits that I want the Brits to answer.
I'm the Brits.
There's two Brits.
I use the word slag a lot.
Yeah.
And I'm not clear on its definition.
That's usually a good thing when you're handling.
I think the definition is.
Like a whore.
Oh, it is.
No, that's exactly right.
Like, we were worried it's a slur.
Yeah, whore's not a nice word.
I don't like the word horror.
But no, not when they say it on Love Island.
It's not that bad.
Is it kind of like slut?
Yeah.
Yes.
Or when you say that.
On Love Island.
I don't like saying whore slut.
But slag just has a good mouthfeel.
Especially when asking.
Especially when you're tagged with you fucking slag.
Isn't Love Island?
Does anybody watch Love Island now?
Oh my God.
Love Island is a dating show, but it's like the most British thing I've seen in my life.
That's because British people.
But it's the most British thing.
Way more British than you.
Oh, yeah, fascinating.
But it's a bunch of shit.
It's a bunch of Chads.
And the guy will be like, that bud's a bit of a slag and shit.
I'm like, holy shit.
Holy shit.
Are you British?
A bird.
Yeah, birds.
Yeah, they call it birds.
Yeah, penguin.
That bird's a bit of a slag.
In like British English is just weird.
I'm sorry.
This is the misogyny podcast.
What do you?
I'm sorry.
This is the misogyny podcast.
She's kind of right, though.
Like, the British words for women-related things are just fucking vile.
I don't even understand.
Well, where's Power?
Oh, yeah.
Minge is horrible.
Minge, clunge, the words thing.
You just made us.
You just made those two.
No, even words that they have for pussy is crazy.
The gash.
I'm not going to lie.
That's what I'm talking about.
Like, gash, minge, clunge, the awful.
They all sound like names for orcs.
Yeah.
Yeah, you lash ice inside your D ⁇ D name.
Fancy me shanking on your gash, yeah.
Yeah, that's nasty.
That's what fucking horny, though.
That's what makes them cry.
That's true, though.
Yeah, British people, when they're horny, that's what they say.
This is a good topic.
What is a word that you cannot stand?
I will go first.
I cannot stand the word meal.
I hate when people are like, oh, I had such a nice meal.
I hate that.
I hate that.
I can't explain why.
I'm such a normal human being.
For some reason, it makes me feel like they're like Hagrid or Santa Claus when they're like, oh, I had such a nice meal.
I just don't like it.
I don't say it.
Come down to me.
Tasty dinner.
Wait, tasty dinner.
Like when you see like a meal deal, you're like, oh, I hate that.
Oh, I hate it.
I hate it.
I like supper less than meals.
Okay, so you hate supper guys?
Are there any other words?
Supper wasn't English.
Supper is a lot of words.
A word you hate.
Oh, pubic.
That's a good one.
I hate the word pubic or any derivative of pubic or pubes.
It's just pube.
It's like, because there's hair down there that can be attractive, and that word is so ugly.
Really?
You find people here attractive?
Yeah, yeah, you need to.
It needs to be trimmed.
No, hold on.
Let's not.
Hold on.
What the fuck?
Listen.
Listen here.
Am I...
See, it makes this sound so gross.
Austin, it's okay to be a pube guy.
Listen, listen, guys.
Joyce is a pube guy.
No.
Can I just point us on the...
Hold on, we can't end and move on on that note.
Austin's a pube guy.
He loves pupes.
I think, I think.
Yeah, so I like Twitch Conno.
Men in particular.
It's going to go away.
That's why I want to show it.
Look, look at the look at the trash guy right there.
Zoom in on the fucking thing that he's using.
I am not kidding.
Guys, look at that.
What?
In the Netherlands, they have multiple different forms of cleaning the streets.
One of them, which I find to be incredibly fascinating, is that they use these fucking witch-ass broomsticks with twigs on it since the fucking 16th century, and it's not a joke.
Look, it's Harry Potter.
Yeah.
Like, what's he gonna do?
He's gonna fucking ride that home after a long day.
I'm gonna fly back home.
He's mostly pawpas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How crazy?
Do you say you've done this?
I should have never given people this weapon against me.
Wait, what?
My shadow is going to be all meals forever.
Back to pubes.
Which does look like pubes, kind of.
Real quick.
I make you horny.
No, hold on.
I don't think, like, because I'm gay, I like men.
I don't know if the shock they're going to fit me.
Wait, what, actually?
So, I don't, I, I don't, I don't.
Hold on.
I think that men should, like, they should have some hair down there, but it should be well kept.
Very well kept.
Very, very trim.
It's about to lead into a sponsor.
Right?
Yeah.
And that is my first podcast.
I do like, but I, I, it's, like, bald.
I don't like that.
I think it's, I think it's, I think it's, I think it's slammed.
Okay.
Yeah, you're a pube guy.
Like that.
Like the broom.
Oh.
We'll talk about something.
You keep pointing towards the broom, but from my perspective, you keep pointing at Nikki and Pokemon.
I think Margaret Gruyin is not what I'm at.
You keep like shocking me.
Like I keep getting shot to my core.
Not what I'm pointing at, I promise.
Sorry.
I'm a believer in shaving your balls.
Yeah, me too.
Me too.
Me too.
George.
Are you kidding me?
You want to know what the perfect man for me is?
Ready?
He's right here.
Trimmed, trimmed downstairs.
Yeah.
No butt hair.
No whole hair.
Excuse me.
You're describing me right now.
Right?
You're describing me.
No, like, very, like, maybe if there's chest hair, very little.
Hair under the arms, definitely.
Never mind.
But trimmed.
And then, like, no hair from like the, like, the, right above the pubic bone to the under the chest bone.
And no hair on your shoulders and back, of course.
Yeah.
Of course, of course.
So that's where I'm at.
I think that's reasonable, don't you think?
Anyway, yeah, we hate that word.
I just described every West Hollywood tweet.
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right, cool.
That's going to be a hard one to say.
What kind of men do you like, Carl?
Wait, can we go back to words people hate?
Yeah.
I don't know if I have a word.
That's bad.
I can't think of one.
I really can't think of one.
Jack said earlier.
Everyone says the whole list.
Minge, gash.
They're awful.
They're all.
Yeah, they are.
Those are nasty, but I kind of like them.
What a ninja?
What does that mean?
Pussy.
Really?
Is that actually a thing?
Ganache is like, oh.
What about ganache?
Ganache is...
What is it?
Ganache?
Isn't that food?
Ganache?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that chocolate?
Ganache is the Hindu god.
You said we could swap out?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
What a terrible thing.
You want to come up with a word?
You wait.
It was on, Elizabeth.
Go ahead.
I don't.
I don't have one in one either.
I was thinking about it.
I was trying to come up with one.
People always say moist is like an ugly word or whatever.
I don't really care.
I say women hate moist.
Do you guys hate moist?
I've heard that before.
I actually, I don't like the word Prius.
Prius.
It doesn't work because he's a fucking republic.
You know what another word that women hate is?
Cunt.
I love cunt.
It's such a good word.
Tweet that.
Tweet that.
Twitter.
There we go.
You got the clip of the podcast.
We did it.
That's the teaser clip.
It's Hassan saying, I love cunt.
It's such a good word.
It's used so aggressively and in an insulting manner.
I think it's very American, though, to not like it.
Yeah.
Like, I think British, Australian, like, it's so casual.
American Confusion with Cunt00:03:10
Yeah.
You tried to use the highest.
Did you hear him try to round himself into the Australians?
It's very Australian.
To be clear, it's not British.
The first time I had an Australian friend and he called me a sick dog cunt, I was like, what does that mean?
He's like, he's like, oh, you're crazy.
I was like...
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, no.
It's like America, like, it's like, it's like the worst.
Yeah, I feel like you can't do the worst.
That's like one of our, you know, like DEF CON one swear words.
Southern English, Australian, endearing.
He's like, oh, how you doing, Kant?
You know, it's like sick.
I think it's how we pronounce it, too.
They're like a cunt, and we're like a cunt.
You know what I mean?
Do people even be like, oh, I hate that cunt?
Like, I've never heard.
Like, it's not even used that much.
That's actually non-white.
Oh, what a cunt.
It's like, what are you, what are you trying to be fucking Australian?
Chill, bro.
While we're on the topic of language, one thing I will say about Amsterdam that is fascinating to me is the Dutch are some of the best linguists I've ever met.
Matt, they all speak like six languages.
You would never be able to guess that they were from another country if you met them in the United States.
Their English is all perfect.
They jump from German to French to, it is incredible.
We went to a bar.
It was a friend's, you know, a friend owned a bar.
Yeah.
And we went there.
There was a story attached to it that I'm not going to get into.
I was stranded for a little bit.
Like, you guys kind of left.
That's what we were stranded.
He fucked off.
No.
Hassan.
Okay, just into it.
We're getting into it.
Hassan jumped into a tram and left us all.
No, that's not true.
We all were trying to get into a tram.
They were taking videos.
Me and George were making TikToks with him.
You weren't just wasting time.
Yeah, you were wasting time making TikTok.
Oh, wasting time.
Yeah.
Oh, TikToks are saving the world.
Okay, well, they were saving the world with their TikToks, right?
And I was like, oh, shit, it's the wrong tram.
Like, we're actually supposed to be on the other side.
And the tram showed up.
Turns out the conductor had just fucked off.
He didn't.
Because the trams are automatic.
And he was just like, I don't want to do this job anymore.
Right?
So he left.
You also did pile in.
I just thought I ran in.
You also did pile in through one of the exit doors.
Yeah, I didn't realize it was an exit door.
Just a door.
A door's a door.
I didn't realize it was like, exit.
This is an exit only.
That is so inefficient to have an exit door and an entrance door.
Exactly.
I mean, they all open both ways.
Exactly.
So I, you know, being American, I was like, oh, it's a tram.
Oh, let's get in, boys.
And then literally the doors closed and I tried to open it.
Like, I put my leg through it and it didn't fucking open.
And I just saw my life flash before my eyes.
I was like, oh, the windows.
I put my hands on the window.
It's the window.
And he was like, and he just sped off.
I want to point out too.
You know when like an elevator's closing and you put your arm and then it opens back up?
That's what he was going for.
And things just crunched.
Yeah, no, it was like.
Dude, I like destroyed my hand the first day of the EU.
In the Netherlands, they don't fuck around.
They're like, doors are closing, Billy.
This guy's, I was at lunch with Will the first day we got here, a nice little light dinner.
And we're enjoying this beautiful Amsterdam sunset.
Stuck in the Tram Doors00:03:12
Yeah.
And Will, I like...
Fist bump Will and he's like, oh fuck, that's the hand I just broke.
I'm like, what do you mean you just broke?
I like couldn't close my hand for three days because I was in an elevator as soon as we got there and there was a lady with a stroller like getting on the elevator and she was like hopscotching whether she would get on or not and the doors started shutting like on the stroller.
So I just threw my hand through because usually in the United States elevators stop.
No, wrong.
It just like flattened my hand.
Very efficient.
And it was so swollen and fucked up for like a while.
You know what's funny about that?
Is it actually wasn't an old lady?
It was awesome.
He was collecting cans.
Hey, Carl, your birthday's coming up and I just want to let you know you'll be my age before you know.
Hey, guess what?
I'm never going to catch up to you though.
Oh, you will.
When I met you, you will when I die.
When I met you, Carl, you were 21, and now we are only 12.
No, shut up.
I was 26.
You were 21, and now you're 24, and I'm 28.
One of my favorite moments of the entire trip was seeing your photo with Pokemon.
I can't believe you've ever seen that.
That's an old photo.
What convention was that again?
That was PAX when I was 18 or something.
And you were like a Pokey stan.
No, and he was too afraid to come up and say to me, Pokey.
Because you weren't.
Yeah, at that same convention, I actually will say, he loves this story so much.
That's why I brings it up.
Bro, can I just say you glowed up so hard?
You really did.
Back then, I wanted to be a games journalist.
You look like shit.
Can I look like that?
Hassan first saw the photo.
He went, look at this fucking dweed.
You did.
You looked like a turbo virgin.
It was awesome.
Guess what?
I watched you all the time.
Oh, fuck.
Really big Hassan head.
Oh, man.
As Carl was saying, he loves to stay.
Go on.
Let's say that.
Same convention that I took a picture with Pokemon.
I was too scared to come up to Austin to say hi.
This is too famous.
So you went to her meeting greet?
Like, you just stood by?
Well, she was at a high, it was like Hyper X or something.
I think I might have just been at the booth.
Like, I don't even know if I had a meeting.
What year was this?
2016?
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Might have been 2016.
Maybe 2017.
You were not a Hasnavihead back then because you been the queen for the time.
You watched the Turks, yeah.
Wait.
Hanging out at the booth because I was like working with Hyper X sometimes.
I don't even think I was like fully.
Pokey has been drawing lines in a crowd since the very first TwitchCon.
I was in the first line.
Oh, I was in the first line.
2015 when you guys met, right?
Yeah.
This story.
I met Austin at TwitchCon 2015.
Yep.
2015.
And I did have a meet and greet then, which I was so excited about.
I was like, I hope people show up.
And like, a few did.
It wasn't like an insane line at all.
Small, moderate, happy to have line.
Austin waited in my line just to meet me.
And I'm like, we're friends.
Like, put on your stream.
You stream, but you're waiting in my line.
And he just loves to do that shit to this day.
He'll like wait in someone's line to meet them just because it's cute as hell.
Sass Watching Terraria Videos00:04:17
I do.
Wait, hold on.
I'm going to interrupt his broadcast.
We have a special guest on the podcast.
His name is Tommy Innet.
How's your head?
How's your head?
Tommy.
Yeah, I'm all right.
I've just been sat watching Terraria videos.
You were watching what?
You're sad watching Terraria videos?
No, I've just been sass watching Terraria videos.
Oh, nice.
I don't know if we can get it.
For those of you at home, earlier on the stream, he clonked his head in a pretty serious way.
He hit it hard.
Yeah.
Oh, he says, where's Goggy?
He's down here.
We kidnapped him.
He's our.
You're interrupting.
Hi.
Hi.
Okay, here.
Yo, there is the biggest spider over here.
I'm arachnophobic, and he crawled on my arm, and now he's over here, and he's straight up.
He's straight up eyeballing me.
This dude wants to get at it.
What the fuck?
Do you guys can move your phone?
You know that I had arachnophobia in college, and to get over it, I bought a tarantula.
Oh, okay.
And I named him Octoclops.
Well, it helped.
Okay.
But then I pranked my friend.
My friend was like, would you get me a bottle of alcohol?
And I was like, yeah.
And I bought him a bottle of alcohol and I put it on the bottle of alcohol when I gave it to him.
And he freaked out and threw the bottle of alcohol and killed my pet.
Oh, dude, like R.I.P. Octoclops.
No, his legs fell off.
I'll tell you.
Oh, my God.
Was it still a lot of people?
Tarantulas can't fall, or I'll say, like, break apart.
Oh, my God.
That's kind of a bitch-made-ass fucking shit.
Yeah, good, honestly, though.
No, he was dope.
Octoclops is the man.
I'm just saying, like, spider, you assume they're going to be good at climbing and shit.
And if you're a fucking bitch-ass spider like that, you're hairy and scary.
Sweet.
Are you still around?
Yeah, falling is a part of climbing.
I'm better, though, dude.
Yo, so when I say I was arachnophobic, bro, if there was a spider even in my peripheral, I couldn't be here.
Now I'm like better.
The fact that that thing was on my arm and I didn't like bite my arm off.
Oh, no, because if it was on me, I would have freaked.
I would have freaking freaking out.
Fun fact, spiders are holy in Islam.
What?
Yeah, I never heard that.
Because they, in a cave, Muhammad had to hide in a cave, the prophet.
Yeah.
And spiders covered the outside of the cave with cobwebs.
So when they were chasing him, they looked at the cave and they said, oh, there's cobwebs here.
Obviously, no one is in here because they were fucking stupid.
Right?
And then they moved away, so they considered it to be holy.
That's not spiritual.
Which, by the way, seekers, W hiders.
Can you not kill spiders?
I don't know.
I mean, I think you can probably...
I mean, I still don't.
Fuck.
No, that's not.
I do a lot of haram shit, so who knows?
You were on about it on the boat.
The guy was like, what is the most haram stuff?
He was just like saying all the haram shit you do.
What is the most haram?
Dude, I don't know.
I've got a lot of fun.
People are married.
Yeah.
Oh, seriously?
Is that what I'm doing?
And I have had that.
I have had sex before marriage.
He also spit roasted me with a lot of stuff.
Hello.
We did have like...
Oh, I think that's it.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
Dude, this is the most dynamic podcast you will ever fucking see in your lives.
We have our Uber Eastern.
What the fuck?
We talk about spiders and ghosts.
Reach over and bro.
Okay, listen.
My backpack, my backpack battery fell into the fucking water.
Okay, so it's a part of the fucking Dutch canal system now.
It's right below us.
It is right below us.
It can blow up anytime.
It'd be really good content.
It might explode.
It would be really good content if it did.
If you threw my phone in, I'd be a little pissed.
Me?
Yeah.
I wouldn't have done that.
He got scared and just like, tossed.
Would you dive in?
No.
Of course.
Waterproof.
It's waterproof.
What?
They can back up right now.
Yeah.
I'll go dive for it.
Fuck no.
If your phone's British, that's all you know.
What do you mean?
All I know.
I'm going to fucking swear not to know.
No.
A lot of our passwords aren't.
Yeah, a lot of secrets.
You guys are having anything.
Go on.
Have a conversation.
We were having a conversation.
I was riffing about it.
You kind of jumped in and talked to Uber.
And you're on my phone.
Since your conversation as a British person automatically below.
Yep.
Attitude of a Coal Miner00:04:53
And then since we have null British people, Typical American behavior.
Exactly.
Yeah, it's bullshit.
Call it soccer too.
Remember who made you?
Remember who made you?
He saw slad.
He saw you fucking slag.
Yeah, they don't call it American.
Yeah.
He's put a bunch of slags on day.
Yeah, see, it's fucking slag.
Dude, we love being British, by the way.
As much as I show a dog about, I don't want to know how it fucking tastes.
Now you stop me whilst I'm walking in this hallway one more time and I'll cut your fucking Jacobs off.
What is that, Butcher?
No, that's Brick Top.
Oh, come on, Brick Top.
Come on.
Whenever I hear, like, I assume Butcher every time.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No, he's not my fucking bullet.
Butcher is the most like stereotypical like British hard mouth.
Even though he's not even British.
He's doing Britface.
He's not even British.
He's New Zealander.
No, he's fucking Kiwi.
He's a butcher from the boys.
You've never seen him, bro.
You don't leave your house.
What do you do all day?
I don't know.
You just fucking chill.
Sit there and sit on.
You know what it is?
I don't know.
I know what it is.
This motherfucker sleeps all day, okay?
That's why he looks the way he does at the age of 26.
My general sleeping cruise amount.
Yeah.
I wonder if that's actually true.
No, literally, beauty sleep.
Beauty sleep.
Beauty sleep.
Yeah, it works.
Kind of.
That's why I look the way I do, like shit, because I fucking sleep like four hours a night.
Oh, shut up, Hassan.
I'm not 26.
Shocking revelation.
I'm 25.
Go to the Poke Cam.
Hit the Poke Cam.
Shocking revelation.
Pokemane just found out George's real age.
No, legit.
The shocking moment when Pokemon found out George's age.
Yeah, we need to get away from it.
I'm not going to get some like 12.
I could say like early 20s.
When I go to my Uber today, the Uber driver goes, is this your dad's Uber?
And I'm like, no.
Why?
And he's like, because you have to be 18 to use Uber.
And I was like, how old do you think I am?
He goes, he thought I was 14.
You do have like a baby buckskin smooth.
Oh, yeah, wait, he's like, legit.
That guy was just being a jerk.
That's a stretch.
Yeah.
14?
Yeah, when I was younger.
Is this your dad's Uber account?
When I was younger, he's like a baby.
You just have like such clear, smooth skin.
I have pimples here.
Okay, listen to this.
Listen to this.
When I was younger, I couldn't grow any facial hair whatsoever.
And in Turkey, the drinking age is 18.
So we go, so we go to bars when we're like 14 and stuff.
Like, there's like specific bars that they don't card you at, right?
And whenever we went, if I went with my group of friends, like, they would always card us because I look like such a little fucking baby.
And I was always like, oh, man, I really wish I could just like have facial hair and look older.
And now that I'm 30, I'm like, fuck, bro, that sucks.
I wish I could fucking look a little bit younger.
Yeah.
Be careful what you wish for is what I'm saying.
I think you look 30, though.
No, more like 30.
38.
40.
Around that, right?
Fuck you, Carl.
I was there.
I think you look backward than you.
I think you all of them are.
Oh my God, you're the best.
You know what I found out?
I've got this theory.
People anchor your age to wherever they are.
So if like you're in your early 20s, I get anchored down.
If you're in your 30s, I get anchored up.
People always, they perceive their self-perception.
The perception of themselves is that they're never like, for example, if you're older, you don't think that that person is substantially younger than you.
And if you're younger, you don't think that that person is substantially older than you.
I think Austin is substantially older than me.
Yeah.
He definitely is.
You actually followed you.
Carl, you actually followed through on that by every tag you saw today at TwitchCon.
Yeah, so people had Austin shows autograph on it.
You wrote old next to it.
I started doing that too.
I really like this.
For the first time, they're not saying it.
Yeah, I didn't know what else to do.
I couldn't think of anything.
Well, I started writing loser next to Carl's damn.
No, old.
I like it when I'm not the one that's being called old.
So I'm going to go along with that.
I never know where you're going.
I think I'm like a bad person.
He has back problems.
Babyfaced person.
Because you are actually really young.
Well, I am really young.
How old?
You're 19?
I probably just, yeah, I'm 19.
I probably just look my age.
But the thing is, everyone always assumes I'm an older person who is then babyface, which is just assuming that.
Dude, it's because, like, bro, you have the attitude of like a coal miner.
Like, you do.
You have the vibes of like a child coal miner that like is like a fucking chimney.
I'm trying to get fucking beefed at 4 p.m., bro.
Yeah.
Yeah, let's go to the weather spoons.
Yeah, we're going to go to spoons, bro.
Thanks.
No, it's just like you just have, yeah, you have like a old labor guy fucking attitude, regardless of your age.
I'm shocked you're 19.
A lot of people, a lot of people say I carry myself like an older gentleman.
You do.
Oh, not as a gentleman.
Old Labor Guy Vibes00:15:09
Diva a little bit.
You think I'm a diva?
Tell me how you do.
Tell me on this trip how I've been a diva.
Where do we start?
Listen, listen.
You don't want that smoke.
Oh, well, you can't tell me.
You don't want that smoke.
Nothing that, like, outside of the private sector.
You literally, you literally, okay, not even the private stuff.
There's plenty of public diva moments that you had.
Earlier today, we're on the stream and you're like, oh, my hair looks so bad right now.
And you're just like, turn to the camera and use the fucking camera to fix your hair.
Or like you get so upset.
You have a diva moment.
Like, I need to have my hair products at all times.
That's not a diva moment.
That's not a diva.
What's in your bag right now?
Show what's in your bag right now.
Okay, I've got.
It's got bomb bags.
I got a deodorant.
Okay.
I've got my wallet, which is bad and small.
I've got gum.
George Cassandra wallet.
I've got hair product.
I've got a concealer brush.
Oh my God, this is out already.
This is out.
You've used this.
You bought this yesterday.
Yeah, I did.
How much have you used it?
And then I've got a couple of gifts.
And I've also got a liner.
For what?
For what?
Just in case.
I bought a joint the other day.
You literally smoked on the boat.
You were like, but ladies, back me up here.
These are all reasonable things to carry in your bag, right?
This is a straight man.
You know what he carries in his bag?
A three-in-one body wash.
No, I don't have anything.
I did bring.
No, I have a five-in-one body wash that I've been literally additional two.
No, a spider just flew up me.
No.
What?
It flew up you?
It flew?
It was on my head.
I flicked it and it went down.
I'm sorry.
I needed to repeat that.
Yeah, I know what the three are, boy.
I'm just two.
Name them off.
What is it, Dickie?
I went to the UK.
Like, I need the five things.
I uber eats.
I uber eated a fucking.
Is that how you say it?
Uber eats.
Uber ate.
I uber ate a fucking grocery list, yeah?
And in the groceries, I got fucking five-in-one.
What do you say?
Shopping.
Yeah.
You say shopping, wouldn't you?
Yeah, I'll go to the bottom of the shop.
I got a shopping list that I Uber ate.
And in it, I ordered like the only fucking thing they had was the five-in-one body wash.
Okay, hair.
Body.
Face.
Okay.
Whole.
Shave.
Whole.
No.
Shave.
Whole.
Very important part of it.
Listen, listen, listen.
I'm giving you.
Okay.
Hair.
Yeah.
Okay.
Body.
Yes.
Face.
You nailed it.
Those are the three, right?
Yep.
Okay.
Shave.
Okay.
And then this last one is, I think, just marketing, okay?
No, it's not.
Four in one doesn't sound like this.
No, it's just marketing.
It's moisturized.
Which is like, come on.
Okay, okay.
Straight man, this is a public service announcement to you.
All right, let's hear.
Those of you that are maybe the audience skin a little younger.
You're doing Trump.
No, I'm not.
Those of you who are the straight men.
Those of you who maybe see you a little younger, maybe you're in your 20s.
You must take care of yourself.
You will start to break down.
Your genetics will start to give out.
That's true.
You need to start washing your face, moisturize your skin.
You know, take care of yourself.
Because if you don't have genetics like Hassan, what?
I look like shit, I feel like.
Yeah, but women still just go like, oh my god.
Oh, there's a spite on you.
I caught it.
Literally with my hand.
Oh, ew.
It's a big fucking.
Ew.
Woo!
You can't even see, but it's a haram.
Anything else?
Listen, we're at 50 minutes right now.
There's food here.
I want to do one thing before we log off.
Quickly, 15 minutes off.
Go around.
I want everybody to give your rose and your thorn of your TwitchCon in Amsterdam.
What's your high and your low?
And then we'll log off anything that you've taken away from the trip.
I think travel is very important.
My mom was a flight attendant.
I think travel makes you a more worldly person.
And I think in an era where everyone is dialing in and the rest of the world seems like a threat, it's important to kind of meditate on your trips and your experiences.
So go around quickly, highlight, low light.
I heck and love that.
You want to start?
So yeah, I really love the experience of TwitchCon because it was my second convention and my first TwitchCon.
But what I love more when it comes to traveling is Amsterdam because Amsterdam is one of my favorite cities.
And I'm glad that I got to see so many friends in one of my favorite cities.
That was really nice.
What's your thorn?
My thorn?
Yeah.
It was the good juicy shit.
I had an allergic reaction yesterday.
Oh, no.
That's a bad thorn.
That's a bad porn.
To what?
Yeah, I think it was Kiwi, but I don't know.
Apparently, some of my other friends did too, though.
So maybe it was a bad batch or something.
A bad batch of what?
What are you accusing me of doing?
It's a bad batch.
I was thinking a smoothie.
Yeah, I don't know.
Oh, I've met like a bad batch of like, you know, like.
What?
Didn't know what other words to use.
I'm not insinuating you do drawing snow.
No one thought that.
I almost said George.
I don't know better than everyone.
That's all.
We both girls are the same thing.
Yeah.
You just look so similar.
My rose had a lot of pedals.
For TwitchCon specifically, I would say very much like I've met more girls at a convention this TwitchCon than I ever have in my life.
And just being told like I inspire women gaming means like the world to me.
I'm like, I do it for you guys.
You drive with the Moroccans too, right?
Okay, Amsterdam.
That was specific to TwitchCon.
In Amsterdam, I've met so many Moroccans.
It's insane.
Like more than I've met by far in like five to six years of living in LA.
So I love it here.
I love that everybody bikes everywhere.
It's beautiful and the vibes are just sky high in Amsterdam.
My thorn, bruh.
The first time that I got to the convention, there were like people that wanted to take photos and stuff.
Oh, I heard about this.
There was one guy.
Wait, what happened?
This one guy?
Like, if you're me and you're like, you know, there's people all around and people have been like really respectful and nice.
Like, they'll give you space and they'll ask if you want to take a photo and then they'll come closer.
This guy just zoomed right up close to me, like literally shoulder to shoulder.
And he's like, give me your WhatsApp.
Come on.
Come on.
And he's shoving his phone at me.
He's like, come on, put your WhatsApp in my phone.
Come on.
And then he went to Kevin, who's like filming me, and he started asking him for my WhatsApp.
I'm like, what are you doing?
You're like fine, but you could have done this in a better way.
Yeah, it's perfect.
She loves fucking race.
Yeah, she loves giving her WhatsApp to people for the record.
Physically aggressive way, I'm like, bro, back up.
What'd you do?
Give me turn on.
So yo, how's the story end?
Yeah.
I just ignored him and took photos with everyone else.
Yeah.
No, that's like one of those moments where like you should be able to beat that person up.
Yeah.
I think.
That's fair.
Imagine it's just me fighting a guy at TwitchCon.
He's riding by this fucking shit.
I'm like, yeah.
It'll be good advertisement for the event.
Next TwitchCon, Pokey will beat your fucking ass.
Jack.
Jack might have it.
Fucking Amsterdam is like.
Thank you, George.
Like, I think it's my favorite city I've ever been to.
Like, I've been here for like, what, four days?
Yeah.
Four?
I don't know.
Like, it's the best.
Like, I fucking love it.
Everything about it, just the sort of freedom of it.
You know, as you said, like, people bike around.
Seeing everyone here as well.
The nightlife's amazing.
Just stuff like that.
The thorn is, I fucking, as much as I love TwitchCon, I love panels and shit.
Like, I really like doing the panel work because I like live audiences because I just have a lot of fun with them.
I was like, every time they offer me one, I was like, yeah.
Yeah.
And then I like, I inadvertently made myself really busy to the point where I just didn't really get to see as much of the place as I wanted to.
And like, I just can't afford to stay.
And I'm like, now I know I'm going to go home tomorrow.
I'm like really pissed.
I don't want to do it anymore.
But no, it's still overall like the best trip I've done.
Wait, is you're pissed that you're leaving?
You want to stay?
Yeah, I'd love to stay because I'm just way too busy.
Bro, you're like, four-hour train ride away from Amsterdam.
No, yeah, you're like an L. You can just go for like a day or two.
Yeah, look, I'll just come back because this place is great.
I really like it.
Yeah.
George not found.
George, can I just quickly say that I brainstormed something with you and I saw you put it into practice?
404.
The 404 signature.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
Hello.
We brainstormed all of us.
I'm the creator of that signature.
Ah, well.
The 404 with the smile in the O, that was 100% me.
That's right.
It was Carl.
It was Carl mostly.
It was me.
Hold on.
Please match me.
I'm sorry.
We need to have him on the podcast more.
Okay.
This is Carl.
This is my thorn.
Me.
Go ahead, George.
Yeah, this is my first event, first TwitchCon, first time in Amsterdam, first time ever.
First time leaving your house.
For some of you.
That's probably true.
You know, when you said that, I believed it.
Well, actually, no, it's not bad.
I was in Ireland a few days ago.
I actually broke the seal.
He liked now.
He's just traveling.
This is a busy month.
You'll see him in Abadab here.
You can't find him ever now.
He's going to go to Thailand.
I have no reason to leave.
But best thing about this, I don't know.
Like, just seeing everyone.
I don't get to see many people.
I don't have any friends where I live.
True.
This is so sad.
You don't realize we live like an hour apart.
Like, it's too far.
I've told you I'm down to hang.
This guy does not leave.
And like when we hang, we always have a good time.
Every time.
Take the fucking train, man.
It's too far, man.
The Gaff Express.
Every time we hang, it's always the best.
Wait, to be fair, he's the one that loses the light.
You guys will come to London then.
That makes it way easier.
No, but like, no, we all live in Brighton.
You live in London.
You guys shouldn't live in London.
No.
Okay, to be fair, Brighton is fucking awesome.
It was very beautiful.
Brian, like, I loved it.
I love it.
Like, way more than London.
It was cool.
But yeah, what was the best thing?
I don't know.
I think just hanging out with people, seeing all the fans of me and Greek was super cool.
What was your thorn?
Got to leave the house.
Yeah.
I don't know.
There wasn't too much bad.
Even getting detained by security illegally, I thought was kind of funny.
Yeah, like, I just thought it was funny.
Like, this guy, security guard on a power trip, I thought it was funny.
Yeah.
This security guard went on a power trip.
Yeah.
I got detained illegally.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not good at titles.
Detained just not clickable at all.
Well, what would you do?
Oh, arrested.
Arrested.
Police came.
You can't say detained.
Well, just nobody cares.
Wait, what?
Oh, okay.
You're running away to me.
Jailed.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
Jailed.
Jail jailed illegally and illegally.
I don't know.
Yeah.
So, what was bad?
What else is bad?
That's pretty bad.
That's good.
That's a good bad one.
That's a good one.
Bro, you got detained.
That's pretty good.
All right, Carl Jacobs.
Rose.
Yeah.
I got to hang out with a lot of people, got to meet a lot of people I wasn't expecting to meet.
I got to meet Thorne.
I don't know why everyone's saying Rose.
I fucking hate him.
He hates to meet everybody that he met, especially the gay people.
Yeah, you gotta stop, bro.
I swear to God.
You're talking about Hassan, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh my god, yeah.
About Hassan.
Nobody hates the LGBTQ more than Hassan.
He's a foe.
We spit roasted you last night.
Yeah, I know.
He was like choking me in the back seat.
My eyes are rolling in the back of my head.
Sir, please.
It's his rose.
Don't look at me.
Yeah, I got to meet like Rubius and stuff like that.
That was so much fun because I've been wanting to meet these people.
And I did my first panel for the first time.
Yeah.
Which was fun.
It's great.
What was your thorn?
What is your thorn?
My thorn?
I don't know.
Again, I kind of agree with him.
Like, I almost got kicked out of Twitch Rabbles like 15 times, but it wasn't like a.
Like, I thought it was funny.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So I don't really know.
I didn't have a thorn.
You don't have to.
I was tired as shit.
That's my thorn.
It's like a turkey.
Entire single right now is fucked up.
Bro, the fact that you got vaccinated.
We're on some hours.
He got his booster shot.
He's on two hours of fucking sleep and he's just slamming Cokes and Red Bulls the entire day to survive.
I don't know how the fuck you stayed up.
And you went out and stuff.
And again, like in the past three weeks, I've been at my house three or four days total.
Like it's been travel, travel, travel.
And some of the like Mr. Beast videos we've been filming is like survival videos and stuff.
Like I've been dying lately.
Yeah.
You fail in that situation.
If you die.
It's over.
Survival is quite literally.
I'll just have Comic-Con and then I'm good.
I'm home for like.
I'll see you there, baby.
Yes.
All right.
Austin show.
Are we talking about the convention itself or every general thing changes things?
Gotta be special.
Thanks for being specific.
Not a diva.
Not a diva.
My rose and my thorn are similar things.
My rose.
Wait a second.
Carl.
Wait, what?
Nothing going.
You think I'm a diva?
Yes.
But that's besides the point.
Come on, go.
What's so diva about just talking?
This is if I was straight, this wouldn't be a problem.
Fucking go.
All right.
My rose is meeting and hanging out with everybody.
I think it's original to my mom.
It's so original.
Come on with you.
No, okay.
What?
No.
No, that was my rose.
Amazing me.
That was my rose.
My rose was meeting and hanging out with everybody.
I love people.
I love seeing people.
I love spending time with people.
I drank more than I ever have this trip ever, and I've had a blast.
That's so unlike me.
I broke out of my show a little bit.
I partied.
I had a great time.
Probably the time of my life.
The thorn in this trip is that I didn't have enough time to do more of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd agree with that.
That's like a CV answer, like the resume answer, but hey, it was the only one.
Well, I agree to an extra.
I think the only time I've explored Amsterdam at all was during your beer bike stream, which I don't even really count.
But that's like Northern Times, like industrial area.
And then this.
And I haven't walked around Amsterdam.
We'll go around after this.
Yeah, after this.
After this, we got two minutes left and we're at Rose and Thorn.
My Rose is specifically meeting the international Twitch community because I love that there are content creators from all around the fucking planet that come here for TwitchCon to you specifically.
Like in NA, we get trapped in this NA bubble every now and then.
I really wanted to meet the Turkish content creators as well in person.
Like one of the Lego streams, the Lego stream that I did was specifically for a Turkish content creator, which brings me to my thorn, which is, well, I have two thorns.
One is that the Lego stream was kind of a disaster a little bit because the Dutch government didn't offer visas to the Turkish content creator Botohan Vidyoyan and numerous other Turkish Twitch streamers.
And they're pretty big.
Yeah, like about half of the Turkish streamers were not allowed into the country.
Yeah.
Despite having like a clear reason to be here, they just wouldn't offer them visas, which I thought was pretty fucked up.
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And then Double Thorn, and this is like drama, kind of.
And maybe I'm being a little ridiculous about this.
And it's not that big of a thorn, but like it really rows me the wrong way.
When we like, as content creators, like when we meet other people, other Twitch streamers and stuff, like I'm so cordial.
If you want to take a photo, of course I'll take a photo with you.
Like, you know what I mean?
It's awesome.
And Will does a really good job with this too, like with fans as well.
Like, I'm always like, I'm a son.
Like, I always say my name, even if I know you know who the fuck I am, right?
Because like, it's the first time we're meeting, right?
That's not, that's presumptuous.
I literally did that at my meet and greet.
Yeah, to be honest, because it's a weird, that's just how humans interact.
I think.
So we're sitting down at the fucking purple lounge, okay?
And these Spanish streamers are sitting behind us.
And I get excited.
I'm like, you know, I want to meet all the fucking international streamers, right?
Like, we did R slash plays, like, you know, stuff in the past.
And I was really stoked to meet Rubius.
That was awesome.
Meeting him was dope.
So Rubius was the kindest person on the planet.
Yeah, Rubius was like, I was just trying to put that out there.
Yeah, Rubius is the biggest sweetheart over there.
And I'm sure this dude is like nice too.
But dude, I turn around.
We're sitting at a table.
There's three content creators.
We have four Spanish streamers behind us.
And I'm like, hey, what's up, guys?
And it was like kind of awkward.
Like, I was just trying to talk to them, but they were treating me like I was a fucking fan or something.
And we're in the fucking purple lounge.
And one of them was like, oh, I know who you are.
Like, I've seen.
The purple lounge is like the Twitch, like, not only the partner area, but like the VIP partner.
Exactly what I was told is we're not allowed to...
Actually, I shouldn't say this.
They said when, maybe cut this, but they said we're not allowed to call it VIP because people will get weird about it.
Yeah.
So we're calling it purple, but that's exactly what I meant.
Yeah, it's just internally that we're all in the middle of the day.
It's like the featured, like the top featured content creators have another area where they don't get sworn by other people.
That's why George was sitting outside?
Yeah, that's why.
That's why I actually.
You actually went to your control.
No, literally.
Which was wild.
But anyway, and then one of the dudes was, what is it?
How do you say Gref G?
I don't know how you say it.
Greg.
Yeah, like the one who like broke the record or whatever.
And everyone says their name.
I'm like, I'm Asan, you know, I shake hands.
I turn around to him and he just didn't say his name.
He just looked at me like, yeah.
And I was like, motherfucker, I don't know you.
Like, in my opinion, of course, I turned around.
I was like, all right, that was an awkward, awkward, awkward situation.
But like, I just, it just rubs me the wrong way whenever someone does that.
I'm just like, okay, that's a little presumptive.
I know some people like definitely just miss it accidentally.
Like, they just kind of like go, hi.
And like, they don't think.
He just didn't.
He just, it didn't seem like he wanted to talk to me at all.
Yeah, you can tell.
You can tell.
Yeah.
Okay, not to discredit you.
Not going to be.
But he was really nice to you.
First of all, actually, he actually genuinely was.
But I wasn't even going to say that.
No, I did see how nice he was to Pokey later in the same lounge, which is why I was like, what the fuck?
He like ran up to her, was like, oh my God, Pokemon, like, can we take a photo?
I was more going to say, I was going to say, again, I am so exhausted that I can see a world where maybe I could have seemed very rude to people.
Yeah.
Today, there were a few times I felt like my faculties left me.
Yeah.
Yeah, today I felt really bad.
Basically, I'm invalidating you.
It's fun.
Yeah, no, I understand.
I get that part.
I'm kidding.
Rose and Thorne before we end because it's dark now.
I'm rounding it out.
Thorne taking last place in Twitch rivals again.
I can't believe that.
We didn't get last place.
We did not get last place.
I was trying to make him feel better.
Oh.
Last place for the first time in Twitch Rivals.
Look, I don't give a damn about that.
Yeah.
My Rose.
For me, it's really interesting.
I'm actually kind of more recent to success than a lot of the other people on the boat.
Even though they're very young, they're very accredited creators and success has come later to me in my life.
Yeah.
But one thing that's really interesting to me is I used to have so much time with Hassan as my best friend.
And as we have become more successful, it's become harder and harder to find time as human beings, right?
We'd kind of plan these events and things around us hanging out.
And at one point, I think our friendship kind of started to feel a little bit manufactured to me.
And the rose of this trip is that I got to reconnect with my best friend.
And now we're doing this podcast not as like a vehicle to uplift me or a way to make money because probably won't, but more as a way that like subscribe to the Patreon.
Yeah, yeah.
But more as a way that like we're friends and we just love making stuff together.
So despite all the obstacles and barriers and the fact that you probably can't even see me right now because it's dark.
Is that quackity?
Way away.
I'm a big fan.
Oh my God.
I just texted him.
The podcast.
I just texted him.
I said the location.
I sent the location 45 minutes ago.
And just like that, we made it happen.
So with that being said, that is Fear and TwitchCon Amsterdam.