April 25, 2025 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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It looks like Trump might actually be turning on Israel, or is that really the case?
The New York Post reported just this afternoon from Josh Christensen that Trump vows that the U.S. won't be dragged into a war with Iran, saying, I'll be leading the pack.
Now, does this mean he's going to be leading us into World War III?
He just wants to make sure Israel doesn't start it and then we'll be the ones to bomb Iran?
Or is he finally putting his foot down and saying, hey, we've literally given you everything, Israel.
We've done everything for your people.
We violated our own constitution and our God-given rights for you.
Is that not enough?
Do we have to kill our people too?
Well, that's the question we ask ourselves today.
We're talking about that.
Plus, there's a brand new waste that's been uncovered in Medicare, Medicaid.
It's kind of a crazy thing, but does that really even matter?
We're talking about these stories and so much more here on another episode of The Rift Report.
Let's start the show.
My name is Elijah Schaefer, and this is a fantastic time together as we got great stories to cover.
You know, every day I wake up and I think, man, you know what would be awesome?
Not actually getting my vices in order, not getting some good sleep with young kids.
I'm like, I really want us to do more things for Israel.
And luckily for me, every day I wake up, I get granted with that great opportunity.
And it's just so fantastic because what's even better about it is not only do we get to talk about it, but if you don't talk about it in the right way, you lose money too.
So it's like I have my jobs to talk about stuff and I have to talk about it a certain way, or I get fired from my own job and my own advertisers.
I love my life.
You can see what kind of day I'm having today.
Anyway, Israel's back in the news.
Shocker.
I know my producer, Mike Mendoza, was telling me earlier today, he thought it was going to stop yesterday.
He literally told me he goes, I think it's going to stop.
I think Israel won't be in the news again.
And then to find out just 12 hours later, they're back in the news.
I mean, I'm not doing great with the mute button today, let's be honest with you, but it's because I'm so jarred that we have another day of news about Israel trying to bring us into wars.
I mean, it's never happened before.
It's never happened before.
This is definitely a novel concept.
But, you know, what is more interesting is Trump's response to it.
I mean, Trump does seem to be hearing his fan base a little bit or his voter base, I should say.
So we'll see if he actually follows through.
We'll see if he actually kind of follows through on the America First Agenda.
But I don't know.
I'm not hopeful.
We kind of talked about that last night on the show on Nightly Offensive.
Did a really great show with our guest here today.
We can introduce him here in a bit, but we'll see what happens.
Yeah, luckily for me, my guest, he called me this morning and he said, Hey, dude, you know, I know people are going to hell and the world needs Jesus, but was it possible that Israel could be back in the news today?
And I said, Dude, I don't think so.
And it is back in the news.
My guest, Dr. Joel Webbin, not Dr. Pastor.
Well, you're not a doctor.
You said you don't have a PhD, but I said you shouldn't have a PhD.
You have a PhD in women, theology, a PhD in offending women, a PhD in offending theologians.
Yeah, so for people that aren't familiar with you, you were on the show last night.
Tell us about yourself, a little about who you are, because we're happy to have you here.
And I know Hillary Crowder called me as well.
She said, not only did she want us to make sure we were talking about Israel, because she loves that subject like we do, but also she wanted to make sure that you were on.
So my name is Joel Webbin, and I am a husband, father of five.
I pastor a smaller church.
We just started in 2021.
So it's only about four years in.
We have about a couple hundred people, and we're in the greater Austin area.
We're actually in Georgetown, so about 45 minutes north of Austin, close enough to have some economic opportunity, far enough away to not have the police defunded.
Austin is absolutely terrible, probably just as liberal as San Francisco at this point.
And then I started a podcast media ministry called Wright Response Ministry.
So you can find us on YouTube, Wright Response Ministries, or you can find us on X at Wright Response M and Apple and Spotify and those kinds of things.
We got a big story for you that we're going to jump into.
It comes out of the New York Post.
And of course, it's that Trump vows U.S. won't be dragged into war with Iran.
I'll be leading the pack.
So President Trump promised in an interview published on Friday that the U.S. will not be dragged into a war with Iran as he seeks to prevent the theocratic regime from getting a nuclear weapon.
In an interview with Time magazine, Trump said that he wasn't concerned about Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu attacking Tehran without his okay, but didn't dismiss the possibility of military action.
He may go into a war, but we're not getting dragged in, Trump said of Netanyahu.
I may go in very willingly if we can't get a deal.
If we don't make a deal, I'll be leading the pack.
Trump also denied reports that he had stopped Netanyahu from attacking Iran's uranium enrichment sites, but added that, quote, I didn't make it comfortable for them because I think that we can make a deal without the attack.
Going further, said, I hope we can.
It's possible.
We'll have to attack because Iran will not have a nuclear weapon, the president said.
So I don't know.
I'm old enough to remember Iraq.
I hated the Muslims, you know, I still do, but I hated them then as well, you know?
But I hated them for a different reason.
And, you know, I was like five years old, you know, how old was I?
Like seven or eight years old, learning how to divide things.
But I knew that those weapons of mass destruction needed to go, Pastor.
They needed to go because those damn Muslims.
Everyone, you remember that, Mike?
Yeah, those damn Muslims, we all hated them.
And we knew that we needed to bomb Saddam Hussein because we watched it on TV like it was a popcorn entertainment.
I watched Baghdad get invaded and bombed on live television.
We broadcasted the invasion of a country like it was a movie.
And I just, why do I feel like every war, Libya, even Yemen now, why do I feel like every war is just not realistically a beneficial asset to the United States?
It feels like this is once again, just Iraq, but 2025 and possibly on a larger scale.
Well, a lot of it has to do with the fact, you know, like just global free trade.
And I mean, there's so much, like not just with Iran and Israel, but like whether it's defending the Red Sea and shipping lanes and all these kinds of things.
We've become so intertwined and dependent, not just with Israel.
I mean, they're far more dependent on us.
That's not really a mutual relationship.
But beyond just, you know, our greatest ally, but thinking of the world as a whole, man, we've created a very dire situation.
Like we can't afford to really cut ties with anybody, much less, you know, actually offend somebody or stand up to somebody.
We don't even make our own medicine here, much less, you know, microchips and all these different things.
So there's a lot of work that needs to be done in bringing industry and manufacturing back to the United States.
And it matters.
It's like, well, but it'll cost more and people have to spend more.
That'll just antagonize inflation and these kinds of things.
Yeah, but do we really want to be like beholden to China for our medicine or Taiwan, you know, when it comes to chips?
Like Taiwan, here's the deal.
You know, I'm not in charge, but if I was, Taiwan is going to get taken over by China.
It's like God made the world.
Okay.
And even baked into the geography, you know, in the way that God naturally made the world was there's a mountain range here, there's an ocean there, there's snow caps there, there's a river here.
Like God created the world to where there are natural lines and boundaries of where nations, and all the nation is, just for the record, it's just an extension of the family.
That's all it is.
So when we talk about nations, we're just talking about the family writ large.
There are different families in the earth.
The nation is just an extension of that, right?
My kinsmen according to the flesh, right?
The Apostle Paul, he says this of Israel, not Jews in 2025, but old covenant Israel at his time.
He says in Romans chapter 9, the beginning of the chapter, he says, for I myself would be willing to be cut off from the riches of, he's saying, I would be willing to go to hell.
And that's quite a statement.
I mean, that's like, you talk about sacrificial love, right?
I mean, that's, it's convicting for me.
But he's saying, I'd be willing to eternally be cut off from the riches and kindness of God and to go to hell if it might save 1.3 billion Indians.
No, he says, but if it might save my kinsmen according to the flesh, he's talking about his fellow Israelites.
He's talking about Jews under the old covenant, people of his kinship, people of his nationality.
And so there's always been this understanding in biblical terms, like what the gospel does is it unites us in Christ, but there's nothing in the Bible in the New Testament that says, and every local church should be 10% white people and 10% black people and 10% Asian and 10% Hispanic.
That's no, the whole idea, when we look at like the end of the book of Revelation, that before the Lamb of God, before the throne that we're going to be worshiping, and that there's going to be some sense of diversity that is going to be every tribe and tongue and nation.
Well, the only way you get diversity then in the final analysis in heaven, when everything is said and done, is by maintaining distinctions now.
If the whole world is just this gay race communism, you know, global soup of, you know, then you don't actually have distinct tribes and tongues and nations at the end.
And so because I actually love Japan and because I actually love Uganda and I love Brazil and I love distinct nations, then the nations are God's idea.
It's a good idea.
Acts, I think it's Acts chapter might be 13, where it says that God sets both the borders and the times, the rise and fall of nations and empires and peoples.
And so, all it is is the family writ large and the idea that we would not be at war with one another.
That's a good idea.
So, Isaiah talks about, and I don't think he's just talking about heaven.
I think it's talking about a great post-millennial hope that as the gospel permeates the whole world and more and more the world is Christianized, it says that they'll beat their swords into plowshares and the nations will no longer know war.
It says that the youth will die at 100.
Well, that's not a description of heaven because nobody's dying in heaven.
The youth will die at 100.
What that's saying is, like, think of lifespans and how short they were back in the day.
You know, somebody lives and they live to be 49 years old.
And they're like, oh, he lived a rich, long life, you know, back in the day.
But like today, if somebody dies at 49, we're like, oh, he was just a kid.
He was so young.
I can't.
And so Isaiah is saying, like, a time is going to come, there's going to be world peace, right?
So you're beating your swords into plowshares.
Nations no longer know war.
And then also infancy death is no longer going to be a thing.
A young person would be 100 years old.
So that gets rid of abortion.
That gets rid of, you know, all these different things.
And that's not heaven.
That's the world that we're actually working towards.
I'm a post-millennial guy.
So I actually think that we are working, that Christendom will conquer the world.
It will conquer Islam.
It'll conquer Judaism.
It'll also conquer another false religion, Judeo-Christian, which is not Christian.
It's a false religion.
It'll all be conquered.
It'll be conquered by the power of the gospel.
But in the meantime, as this is happening, and even then, even when we have peace, what Isaiah doesn't say is, and when we have peace, everybody will live in each other's country.
It doesn't say that you'll still have distinct nations.
There'll be brothers in Christ, and maybe there's a visit from time to time.
I'm going to go visit my brothers in Christ in Uganda, but they're there and I'm here.
And that's okay.
That's not racist.
That's not, there's no animus.
That's not, but what we've done in the name of capitalism, in the name of free trade, in the name of GDP must go up, in the name of being a boomer con, in the name of all these things, is now we can't afford to tick off China because we literally can't get medicine.
And my point with all that was to say, Taiwan, there's wonderful people in Taiwan, a lot of Christians in Taiwan.
So I wish no ill on them.
But here's the deal: it's not my business.
China is going to take Taiwan.
In the same way that Putin tried to take Ukraine and, you know, historic lands and all this kind of stuff.
And it's like, well, I disagree or I agree.
But that was the calculus.
Taiwan, you look at the way God made the world just geographically.
Taiwan belongs to China.
It does.
And so eventually that's going, and I know they don't like it.
I know they don't like it.
And I understand and I feel their plight.
I'm not saying I agree politically, but I'm just, I, you know, I have some common sense.
I'm looking.
That's going to happen.
And we're not going to be able to intervene.
And so then what's going to happen?
All the way on the other side of the world, we're going to lose medicine and chips and our cars, everything is like, so in one foul swoop, that's going to happen.
And we're going to be sitting ducks.
Like, so this idea of, well, but the free trade is great and the hedge fund managers are doing good, you know, and that maybe this wasn't a good idea.
Maybe this globalism was not actually a good idea.
Maybe it's not racist to actually believe in individual nations as an extension of the family writ large to say America first.
America is for Americans.
And we need to manufacture things here, one, so that we're not beholden to other nations for our own convenience and our own security, but then also for our children and our children's children so that they have a future in terms of wages and being able to have a job.
I think we are looking at the calculus in real time.
And we're not the only ones doing this, but most of the world, the rubber band is snapping back to God's natural order.
There is a rapid, like it's the vengeance of nature.
Nature always wins, right?
Jurassic Park, a prophet once said, you know, nature always finds a way, life finds a way.
And so, in real time, everything's snapping back to a natural order, patriarchy, husbands being head of the home, and men being strong, courageous leaders, women feeling more of a nurturing, a domestic, feminine beauty.
So, you have patriarchy, you also have a return to nationalism.
Instead of the blessings of multiculturalism, you have all these different things happening in real time.
It's happening right now.
And the reality is that most of our politicians, even in the Republican MAGA Party, most of our churches, Lord knows, our pastors, they don't want to talk about it.
They say it's racist.
They say it's this.
It's icky.
It's chauvinistic.
It's whatever.
And so then what happens?
All these young men are abandoning the church.
And if they go back to church, here, I'm sitting here, I'm a Protestant, and yet I'm incredibly sympathetic.
It's not my preference, but I know how we got here.
All the guys who are coming back to church, they're not coming back to Pastor Bob's Southern Baptist Church.
They're coming back to Roman Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy.
Why?
Because they're just so persuaded of the need to worship Mary.
It's not theological.
That's not why.
You know why they're going to EO or why they're going to a Catholic church?
It's like a literally, I mean, I'm not even a Catholic.
I'm not a Catholic.
When I go to Catholic church, I just can't handle women in bare feet on stages telling me how I need to, you know, I need to just confess my emotions to the Lord.
And I know not all Protestants are the same.
And people are like, oh, you know, they accuse me of buying the Catholic lie that all Protestants are like this.
We had a talk last night that, you know, really it's about the community and the church that you're in.
Sometimes there's bad Orthodox churches.
There are bad Catholic churches.
That's true.
There are probably, and I mean this, there are probably some Mormon churches you're going to get a better gospel at than some Protestant churches.
I'm saying because I'm saying, because at least they talk about Jesus, and at least Jesus is a man, maybe to them, where if you go to some churches, Jesus is a she.
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I'm looking at houses right now to rent.
And I know that's hard.
When you own a home, there's so many fees, so many things you've got to work on, but you're trying to build a life, right?
You're trying to actually get equity in your house.
And the problem with homes is it feels like everyone's trying to remove that equity from you, right?
Whether it's God with the hurricanes over here, whether it's floods.
You know, if you live in South Carolina, maybe you have tornadoes in Texas.
Okay, I'm not going to help you with that.
You got to get your insurance.
You got to be protected.
But what if I was to tell you that there's another way that people are trying to steal your equity?
It's called house stealing.
And it's actually a white-collar crime that the FBI has coined as one of the fastest-growing white-collar crimes in America.
The reason why it's sketchy, you know, Indians will call you and scam you, right?
But this is darker than that.
You might be smart and like, I'm not going to get scammed.
They actually find a way to use one document to get control of your home title at the bank.
It's basically a form of identity theft, but it's really common.
And I didn't know how common it was till I looked it up.
And then they can borrow against the equity in your house or just refinance and get a quick loan, like $200,000, $250,000.
And then they steal the money, obviously don't pay it back, and then you get evicted from your house unless you pay the money back.
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Anyway, my guest today, of course, Pastor, not doctor, but he's a doctor for me.
He's trying to heal our hearts today.
The pastor's here, and we're talking a little bit about this Israeli story.
And I want to kind of kind of go into this direction here.
You know, we are not supposed to be divided.
We are not, I mean, we're not supposed to be united in the terms of we are all one.
And we know that from the Tower of Babel.
We know that the division is a consequence and that it has created a uniqueness.
And whenever people try to become one in synergy, it actually causes problems.
And one of the areas where we've tried to become one is in Israeli American interests.
They've tried to say that a small country in the other side of the world that is not even ethnically homogenous with us, like it's, you know, people say, what about Australia?
Well, you know, look at look at Australia.
I mean, they're not really in line with us in a lot of things too, even the United Kingdom, but at least ethnically, we are similar and we are Western people.
These are Eastern people.
And because they're a democracy, even though they're not actually, they're supposed to be our ally.
And they're trying, Israel claimed that they were going to probably do a reduced strike on Iran's nuclear facilities without the U.S.'s help.
Even if we don't go in, they said they're going to attack anyways.
Trump put his foot down.
He told Netanyahu, no, you're not going to do that.
But then reneged and was like, we actually might be the ones to do that.
And you're going to follow us.
And I go, wait a second.
Why can't we never just stop with Israel and tell them no?
Why does it always have to be no, but possibly we'll do it for you?
Well, the one thing that encourages me about Trump is not that Trump is not an ideologue.
People need to understand that.
Like sometimes they're like, trust the plan, 40 chess.
Or maybe he actually doesn't know everything.
Like, I think, I don't think he's an idiot by any stretch.
I think the dude is fairly smart and knows some of what he's doing.
And I'm grateful for him.
I voted for him.
I know you guys voted for him.
But at the same time, it's not just that we're being cowards, but we're being dishonest if we don't call him to account.
That's just what, I mean, especially if you're doing news, you know, but also just as Christians, Christians are not allowed to just grift and shill.
That's dishonest.
So I voted for Trump.
I encouraged others to vote for Trump.
And then also I'm going to call him out on certain things.
One of those things, for instance, which I don't even know if you guys support, but I'm going to say it and you guys can just disagree with me right here on the air on the air.
But him and Vance, both of them, trying to get federal funding, federal tax dollars to support IVF, is something that I strongly, strongly denounce.
IVF, and a lot of people, and I'm not trying to give people a hard time because a lot of them, I think, are ignorant.
They don't realize, but IVF, in most cases, is taking 10, 20, or 30 embryos.
If you believe that life begins at conception, not implantation, that conception is fertilization, then you're taking children made in the image of God and you're incarcerating them without a fair trial.
It's prison.
You're freezing them, putting them on ice, and most of them will be just discarded later.
So I'm getting, you know, one, two, maybe three kids, but I'm, but I'm actually, I'm actually sentencing to death 10, 15, 20.
And it's one thing to do that.
It's another to say that every single person in the country is now going to be financially funding it through tax dollars.
If Trump does that, here's the irony.
The same guy who put the Supreme Court justices and got Roe overturned, which I'm grateful for, that guy, historically speaking, will be looked back on by a Christian nation because we're going to win.
Like there are dips and spikes along the way, but the overall trajectory of the SP 500 has been up and it's been up for decades and decades and decades and decades.
And honestly, like, who knows?
We might blow it all up.
So this time we might.
So I'm, you know, the analogy breaks down a little bit because I'm not super hopeful with stocks because I think a lot of our stock market and our economy is fake and gay.
Like it's literally fake and gay.
And it's not real economic power and wealth because we traded all that for, again, for gay race communism.
But just understand the analogy is as good as it goes.
The point is this.
With chrysodom, yeah, I think that chrysodom is on the rise.
Right now, we're in a hell of a dip, right?
I would argue we've been in a dip since the 1960s and Civil Rights Act.
Yeah, but I would argue probably since the Enlightenment, like we've actually been in a dip for a couple centuries now, not just a few decades.
But yeah, Elijah, to answer your question, I believe that the mustard seed, that it actually will grow into a tree that encompasses all the earth.
I believe that the little bit of leaven will actually work its way through the whole batch of dough.
I believe that Jesus was that seed.
He says, I tell you the truth, unless a seed first dies and is buried in the ground, and he's talking about himself and his humanity.
He died, was nailed to a cross, was buried in the tomb, then it can sprout and bring forth new life.
Jesus is, the gospel is this mustard seed.
It is a world-encompassing tree.
Eventually, all the beasts of the field will find shade under its branches.
The birds of the air will find rest in the tree.
It is going to cover the knowledge of the glory of God will cover the whole earth as the waters cover the sea.
It's going to happen.
Allah will lose, right?
Satan, right, which is the God of Judaism, will lose.
All these other false gods will lose.
Atheism is already losing.
I can't think of anything more embarrassing than having to tell your friends, yeah, in the 1990s, I was actually, you know, I have a Reddit account, you know, and I'm an atheist.
I mean, right now, like, think about that.
That's a win.
It is embarrassing to have to tell your friends.
It's like, it's like telling your dad that you rollerblade and you're gay.
Like, I'm an atheist.
You know, like, I mean, it's like, I mean, it's gay.
Like, atheism is.
So, yeah, so I think we win.
All that being said, I'm not just hooked up to, you know, all the copium.
I'm realistic.
So I think we win.
But in the short run, we're getting our butts kicked.
There's no question about that.
But with all this, my point is back to Trump.
Here's the best thing about Trump.
So I don't think he's an ideologue.
I don't think he has all these raw convictions.
I don't think he's playing 4D chess sometimes, but not all the time.
In this scenario, I don't think that's it.
But this is the one thing we got going for us with Trump.
Trump loves people who love Trump, and he also hates anyone who's not nice to him.
And Bibby is a jerk.
Bibby will not be able to help himself, but be Bibby, a Jewish warlord.
You know, Bibby's going to be Bibby, which is not a great guy.
And he's not going to be able to help himself.
He's going to try to bully Trump.
And then Trump's going to do what Trump does, which is not ideological, but it's just his persona.
Trump's going to say, I personally don't like you.
And that personal beef might literally save us from World War III.
So if he leads it, I kind of want to read into that a little bit.
Number one, I hope he doesn't, but I pray he doesn't.
But secondly, if he did, what do you mean by that?
Is this like, is this similar to the scenario of, yeah, we'll, we'll, um, we'll bring in the fighter jets for the Gaza Strip, but it's going to be ours.
Because you know who Israel is like, well, the Holy Land, those are our jets already.
Who does Israel belong to?
It belongs to Christ.
It's the inheritance of Christians.
No, that's what I'm saying.
Like, Israel, it's like, oh, there's going to be a third temple built.
Like, you guys know the story of what was his name?
Wes, what was the guy's name?
The guy who tried to build the third temple and lightning struck.
You're going to, everyone hates like part of the rules.
Even Mike lives next to him.
We all have to live next to a synagogue.
But no, I was like there and I was, I like told her, I was like, you know, I don't know if my wife's going to like living next to a mosque because obviously she wouldn't care about the synagogue being Jewish, you know?
But I was like, I was like, your wife's Jewish.
Some people said they were.
They say she is.
They say she is.
She has the nose.
But no, but jokes aside, I was like, you know, I don't know if I feel comfortable living near a mosque.
And she's like, wow, I was like, oh, I don't like Muslims.
And she just looked at me, shocked the person.
And I was like, and you do?
And I'm not going to say her answer because she's a real estate agent.
She's great.
She said, yes, I do.
I want to sell them houses.
But I was like, yeah.
And she's like, yeah, I was like, I wonder if that's why this one, it's a beautiful home.
I was like, I wonder if this is why it's not renting and whatever.
And she's like, why?
I was like, because we live in a Jewish area and Jews don't want to live near Muslims.
Should I be paying for bombs to be bombing the children's Christian hospital in northern Gaza?
It's like, guys, you got to draw the line somewhere.
And also, I don't like Muslims, but I don't think that we need to target their apartment buildings at 3 a.m. and bomb an apartment building to kill one guy.
Whose idea was it to say, all right, guys, I've got a great idea.
It's like the meme, you know, with the whiteboard.
What if, hear me out?
You know, what if we took a bunch of Jews and we geographically put them in a sea of Muslims?
And that's the deal.
It's like, why are we constantly, you know, for 75, you know, 80 years, constantly having to financially support with billions and billions of dollars and all this.
Well, because, like, honestly, and I think we got to break ties, but I will, you know, you know, argue, you know, the devil's advocate, you know, side of the aisle for just a moment.
Israel could have never done that without the West.
That was America.
That was England.
That was the Crown.
Like, if the West, if Christian nations, and these are Christian nations that should have known better, an allegiance to Christ and not an anti-Christ ideology and people who are subservient to that ideology.
But we actually, that was a theological, that's why all these things really are, these are political implications of spiritual problems.
That was a spiritual compromise.
Christian nations that at the time loved Christ, many of the people loved Christ made a calculated compromise and decided we are going to put Jewish people in a sea of Islam.
And now many still feel a moral obligation because they know, like, there's no way that they're viable and sustainable to stay there without our aid.
Because, yeah, Israel has more weaponry and they're more advanced and all that kind of stuff because, you know, a lot of Muslims are just throwing rocks.
And the only reason why some Muslims don't hate them is because the U.S. is creating massive international trade, like with Qatar, UAE, and stuff.
And they're, you know, sort of creating an allyship, even with Saudi Arabia, the only reason why Saudi Arabia is tolerating them is because of the U.S. control of trade.
Well, I'll tell you a little story because I'm not going to joke about how we actually break ties because, you know, I've been offered copious amounts of money multiple times from the Russian government, you know?
And I, you know, and I've had to, you know, I actually just recently was down in El Salvador with some people, and I was trying to find funding for this.
And he was like, how much are you looking for?
And I was like, honestly, like, probably three, I'd like $3.5 million for a Rift and what we're doing.
That's what I'd like to get to continue doing what I'm doing.
And he's like, okay, that's not bad for me to think you can run a whole operation of 3.5 million.
I go, I go run on less, but I'd like to run it on 3.5 million because that would be nice.
And I was like, who's going to get that money?
He's like, oh, I'm like, you know, I work for our, listen, this is like the fifth time this has happened.
He's like, I work with RT.
They might want to pick up Rift.
It even has a similar logo.
And I was like, dude, listen, man, I've already went through this before.
I can't take money from the Russian government.
It just, they're going to cook me.
You know, I go, I know it doesn't make sense why we can take money from Israelis and their government.
I don't know why it's set up like that, but when you take money from the Russians, they'll find a way to cook your ass.
And that's just the reality because Russians do care about the things I care about.
They like conservative values.
They care about these things.
You know that in Russia, they pay women, even if you're self-employed, for a year and a half maternity leave because they want them to have babies.
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I did want to continue talking about this.
So, you know, talking about the influence here, Mike, I know you have in the Mendoza report, you were coming out with a recent study on how we could break ties with Israel, but I think we were kind of referencing this.
It is really crazy that as of now, since ideologically, I think young people, they see the writing on the wall that young people in America do not support them.
But as you just broke the news, which we just found out today, that Israel's involved with censorship.
I can't say this, but I just want you to like back me up and verify that I'm not lying.
Some very large publication, which I have been told I am not allowed to name due to an NDA, and that's respectable.
They were very much censored, okay?
Like very much censored by a certain group that I also cannot mention that's very prominent that's run by a Muslim in the UK.
And they're a very big organization that censors a lot of people.
I'm like, they're not going to come after me.
I'm not even worth their time.
They're going to come after, you've got to be a big publication.
You've got to be Tucker Carlson.
These are, they put their money into taking down real people.
And they pretty much almost effectively bankrupted this organization and pretty much took all the money away.
And I know them and they're very, very, very good people.
And then an original report came out, okay, that was from a very prominent publication.
You can look this up.
And it turned out that it was discovered through a leaked financial document who was funding this anti-right wing organization.
And that was led by a gay Muslim.
And it turned out that it was coming from an Israeli wire number and that Israel was funding this organization that was trying to destroy this publication that everybody knows.
And I go, holy fucking shit.
Sorry for the language.
I'm not supposed to curse in the show, but that's really what I thought.
I go, and it wasn't because I had anti-Israel bias.
I go, this is such big news.
I got to call the, I got to call the CEO.
I got to tell them that like we figured out where the, who's financing the destruction of your company?
Like we figured it out and it's Israel.
And I was like, I can't say anything else, Mike, but I told you.
I was like, they literally said, you are under an NDA with us.
Do not talk about this.
Do not ever mention us and this thing publicly.
Do not talk about it.
And we don't want to talk about this on anything you're associated with us on.
Yeah, it's like international or no, no, it's like transnational institutional Stockholm syndrome, where it's like, even though they were explicitly being persecuted by Israel, they didn't want to talk about it because they know that a lot of their readers, a lot of their followers, a lot of their viewers could potentially be up in arms if they spoke up against them.
So, you know, and that's, and that's kind of what we're dealing with right now in terms of the institutional conservative movement is people are starting to come to terms with these things.
But it's hard to kind of break off from that.
You know, because in a lot of cases, like with APAC, I mean, APAC funds a lot of people to tunes of millions.
So it's kind of hard to get a lot of these people off that teat of like, you know, feeding into the Judeo-Christian myth.
But I, yeah, all I was going to say is, is, yeah, that being said is like, that is, when you're talking about breaking away, I want to kind of have a discussion here.
You know, you feel free to jump in more too, Hennessy.
Is that it's like I literally helped an organization.
And by the way, it was like the original report.
It was someone I knew, they were helping me, whatever.
But like, we literally figured out who was destroying this company.
And rather than weaponizing, going to court, getting their audience to realize who's trying to destroy us, they were so concerned that criticizing Israel could be, could negatively impact.
They were more concerned about not criticizing Israel than they were about protecting the company from being destroyed by Israel.
And it was like, oh, like I'm like, I remember I just sat in the car.
I was like, fuck.
I was like, why is it like this?
Why are we like this?
And I work in it and you work in it.
And you know, nobody, the only worse place than right-wing media for this Judeo-Christianity is non-denominational Protestantism.
So when you think like Christianity, just for the listener, because a lot of people don't know this, but it's simple and you'll be able to remember it.
Now you'll know.
So Christianity, right?
Three big groups, Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox, and then Protestant.
Underneath Protestant, you've got the main lines.
And when you think mainlines, think all the pretty Protestant church buildings in America that are historic and they're all homosexual, you know, with like a short-haired, you know, purple-haired, you know, lady pastor or whatever.
So that's like United Methodists.
You know, they went gay, you know, Episcopalian, a lot of the Anglican, you know, those kinds of groups.
PC USA, it's Presbyterian, but the liberal wing, right?
And then you have, so you got Christianity, RC, Roman Catholicism, and then EO, and then Protestantism within Protestant.
You got the Protestant mainlines, they're all gay.
And then you have the evangelicals.
And the evangelicals would be like SBC, Southern Baptists.
It would be like other Presbyterians, like PCA, Presbyterian Church of America, or OPC, Orthodox Presbyterian Church.
And it would be some Reformed Baptist.
It would be maybe some Anglicans that are more conservative.
And then a bunch of like independent, you know, separates, little, little, you know, independent fundamental Baptist churches, you know, or some Pentecostal churches, some of the charismatic churches.
And they're, you know, they're mostly politically conservative, you know, like they're salt of the earth people.
They're the ones who turned out and voted for Trump.
They're the ones who are against abortion.
But they're also the ones who are raging Zionists and think that, you know, like, I'll be blessed if I send a check to Israel.
Yeah, I've actually had a lot of arguments with different churches too, just with the whole everything going on in Israel, the whole debate about God's chosen people.
God's chosen people are those who choose Jesus, but they like to get back and forth into these debates.
And it's just crazy to see how they can say, you know, we're doing this because this is what God wants.
God wants us to protect them.
And then when you bring up the killings and everything going on over there, it's like it's totally okay.
The massacre is okay.
The killing of women and children is okay.
And to think that's actually what God wants is like one of the most absurd things you could ever think of.
God wants us to unite.
We're all his children.
He, you know, he loves us all.
But the way the churches are now, and I think a lot of that goes back to the false teachings.
Like you have the Schofield Bible that they had come out and all this other literature.
And the fact that the church itself, as you mentioned, everything is fake and gay is that the church has been infiltrated.
That's one of the biggest things that they're doing is they're now infiltrating the churches.
They're teaching this false indoctrination.
And people are leaning into it blindly, going based more off instead of the word, but these politics and different kinds of ideas that they have that they think the world should be instead of actually staying to what God said the world to be.
God gave us a Bible.
It's an instruction manual and he made it very simple and clear.
But unfortunately, the way the churches are now.
And then as far as everybody else, a lot of things, even not even the church, the reason they follow too is because just how we're taught.
Like in school, you know, Hitler is a tough subject for a lot of people.
But, you know, as far as that's concerned, it was just we were told he just wanted everybody to be blonde hair, blue-eyed, and that Israel is our greatest ally.
No matter what, we have to protect them.
So I think people, it's like kind of like they, in their subconscious, they've been reprogrammed so much that even if you question anything about Israel, and I'm not attacking all Jews, I'm saying the Israeli government, when you go ahead and you bring up these topics to them, it's like instantly that they get upset, they get enraged, and then they combat you versus actually have an intellectual conversation.
And that's why you have people like, you know, now you have people like Jordan Peterson and everybody else coming out trying to say using names to combat instead of actually having the conversation so we can actually open up, discuss and say, you know, what is good and what is bad.
You know, like when I say post-millennial, it's an eschatological, you know, eschatology.
So end times.
It's just my view of the end times.
Which here's the thing.
So you think of like Judeo-Christianity, just to give a little credentials here, you know, people are like, what?
You think things are ultimately going to get better, you know, before Jesus returns?
Yes, I do.
And here's the thing: the premillennial kind of things will only get worse and then the church eventually will get raptured out of here before seven years of tribulation.
Like premillennialism, that is Schofield.
That is especially dispensationalism.
So premillennialism goes hand in hand.
Not always.
There is historic pre-mill that like Justin Martyr and early church fathers believed that didn't have a rapture.
It wasn't dispensational.
But most pre-mill guys today that think basically what's premillennialism?
They think Jesus is coming back relatively soon, probably next Thursday, you know, and the church is going to get raptured out of here and things are going to continually perpetually get worse until Christ returns.
That's premillennialism.
Because that's what I was raised in.
that's that's most most churches in america that's most of your your is that an american Is that an American form of theology?
Well, it comes from the, so there's historic premillennialism.
That's rooted in church history.
Okay.
So I still don't agree with that position, but you can find it in church history.
I'm not saying it's the position, but you can make an argument that it's historic and it's not something that just appeared, you know, as a novel position in the last 150 years.
That's historic pre-mill.
But dispensational premillennialism, that's the other flavor.
That's Schofield, right?
That's Darby.
And Schofield and Darby, they had an effect in England and different places, but they had their deepest hooks in every single home, not just church, but every private Christian home in America at one point had a Schofield study Bible on their on their shelf.
And so that, I mean, that really was, that has affected American Christianity more than anything else.
So, but here's my point.
When you think of Zionism, you've got to attach to it also premillennialism.
So what you're talking about is people who, and this is part of the thing, it's not just like, well, Jews are God's chosen people and we need to, you know, send them another $350 billion and we need to do this.
It's not just that.
It's also the calculus of these are people who also in their eschatology, their view of the end times, they're premillennial dispensationalists.
They believe Jesus is going to return soon, like any second now.
We're living in the end times.
And they also believe that the world is destined by God to get worse until he returns.
So these are people who, my point is politically even thinking the political implications, these are not people who are thinking we need to rebuild from the ashes and rebuild Christodom and America first and restore nationalism instead of globalism, because these are people who are not thinking on a long timeline.
So like when you talk about owning a home, for instance, if you knew you were going to die next week, you wouldn't be shopping for homes, right?
So what does that do to a people when the average Christian in your country thinks that there actually is no future?
It's actually God's will that things get worse and worse and worse until the end.
And the end is right around the corner.
And the best thing that we can do is just remind God that we're on his side because we're the good stepchild who God tolerates, right?
We're stepchildren.
God doesn't really love us, but he tolerates us so long as we're good to his favorite biological child, Israel.
You know what I mean?
Like that's their, that's their theology.
And so when I say like post-millennial, I'm saying, no, I think it's a long game.
I think that nobody knows the date or the hour that Christ will return.
So I'm not going to pretend to know I'm not a false prophet, not going there.
But in general, I think we could still have some time left in the tank.
I think Jesus could tarry for quite a while.
And I actually think that in the macro picture, things will get better.
That does not mean that there aren't dips along the way.
We're in a big dip right now.
And in the short term, I think things will probably get worse before they get better.
But eventually I think they'll get better.
And one of the evidences that I would point towards is I genuinely believe that this issue of Judeo-Christianity and Zionism, I think that's one of the ways that things will get better is back to what you said, the 52%.
Israel knows that the gravy train is coming to a screeching halt.
They don't have much longer.
Boomers are not going to...
Now, I mean, boomers will probably find a way to harvest organs and live on like a space, you know, based on the moon.
Again, the dispensational premillennial evangelical Protestant types in America, they look at that and they'll say, but my kingdom is not of this world.
That's not Christian, Mike, what you're describing right now.
Here's the deal.
When Jesus says, my kingdom is not of this world, what he means by that is it's not of this world, meaning that the source of power and authority for my kingdom is not derived by worldly things.
It's not derived from an earthly temporal plane.
What he's saying is that my authority and the source of my power and my kingdom is heavenly.
But when he says, my kingdom is not of this world, he never said my kingdom will not be established in this world.
And there's a difference.
And then in addition to that, people will also point towards like Jesus when he's led by the spirit after his baptism into the wilderness to be, you know, to ultimately for 40 days to fast and then eventually to be tempted by the devil.
And one of the temptations and evangelicals, you know, premillennial, Dispy, you know, Darby, Schofield types, Judeo-Christians are notorious for this.
They'll always point towards, well, that was one of the temptations, Joel.
You're just being worldly and you just want, you know, worldly dominion and power and blah, blah, blah.
And that's not Christian.
And, you know, that's actually the devil speaking through you because that was one of the temptations that he brought before Christ.
He actually, one of the three temptations, he brought Christ up to a hillside.
Remember this?
And it says that he showed him all the kingdoms of the earth.
And then what did he say?
He said, I will give all these to you if you will simply bow down and worship me.
And Jesus says, it is written.
He's always appealing to scripture.
It is written, you shall worship none but God alone.
But here's the ticket.
A lot of guys will interpret that, just Judeo-Christian, Zionist, evangelical type will interpret that and say, see, Jesus isn't interested in the kingdoms of this world.
Jesus, he's only interested in his authority in the 17th dimension.
It's just spiritual, floating on clouds in the heavenly plane.
No, no, no.
Jesus, what he refuses is not ownership of the kingdoms of this world.
What he refuses is idolatry.
What he refuses is the means by which he's going to attain that end.
So what Jesus refuses is bowing down, worshiping Satan.
So in essence, we could exegete that scripture.
We could say that in a sense, what Jesus is saying to Satan is this.
He's not saying, well, I'm not interested in politics because it's icky.
I'm not interested in the kingdoms of this world.
Nations are icky.
No, Jesus isn't saying that.
Saying, oh, you want to give me the nations of the world by bowing down and worshiping you?
That's okay.
I don't need that.
I'm going to take the kingdoms of this world.
And I'm going to do so by my life, death, and glorious resurrection and ascension to the right hand of God the Father.
The last thing Jesus says to the disciples before his ascension, before he's taken up, he says, All authority in the 17th dimension has been no, all authority on earth and in heaven has been given to me.
Therefore, go out and make disciples of who?
The nations.
You are going to Christianize kingdoms and kings and princes, and the glory, the knowledge of the glory of God will fill the whole earth as the waters cover the sea.
It is Christ is king, is not just a theological statement, it is a political statement.
He really is king, and all the kingdoms of the world belong to Jesus.
They do.
They don't know it yet, but they do.
And they will be Christianized one by one by one.
It's going to happen whether you like it or not.
Christ is king.
He's king of the Jews.
He's king of Americans.
He's king of Ugandans.
He's king of the Russians.
He's king of Muslims.
Christ is king.
And what we're getting to do is, as his ambassadors, little by little, like leaven working through a whole batch of dough, we're getting to go out and permeate the world with not just the gospel at the level of the heart, but actually even in a political and national sense, in a real earthly sense, permeate the world with the kingship of Christ, of the increase.
Isaiah says, prophesying of the Messiah, of the increase of his government, there shall be no end.
And so this is a hopeful thing.
And my point is, next four years, if we're looking short term, yeah, I don't know if I'd be putting any calls on the market.
So like I'm a realist.
So if I'm looking short term, I'm like, yeah, things are probably going to get a little bit hairy.
But if I'm panning out and I'm looking more long term, no, we're going to win.
Yeah, the hardest thing for me is I have to tell people, I tell them about Christ, they get interested, they're excited, people are returning to church, and then I have to look them in the eyes and have to tell them that I'm a Protestant pastor.
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So I think I told you this offline, but I recently, a few months ago, did a nine-part series on Israel.
Well, on Israel, and I did it just from the Bible.
And so like Galatians, Hebrews, Ephesians, Acts, and working from the Bible, talking about the destruction of Jerusalem in 8070.
And so I did it from, you know, the way that a pastor would, you know, so like, so it's, you know, it gets into the history, but it gets into the covenant theology and all these kinds of things and explaining why Judeo-Christianity is a different religion and why it's demonic and why it's wrong and it's a heresy.
And so explaining that.
And then I even got into, you know, so who are the Jews today, you know, because I personally don't believe even ethnically that they're Israel of the old covenant of the Bible.
I actually don't think they are.
And so I was able to explain that.
So at an ethnic level, even talking about like certain research with, you know, DNA testing and things like that and shed a lot of light on it.
And then talk about, and so then how should we now live?
Then if this is true, then ask Christians, what does this mean?
What are the implications?
How do we live in regards to this politically and practically?
And so I have a nine-part series with myself and Andrew Isker.
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So that's, because I'm always looking for stuff to watch with the wife and like, you know, men and women are very different, you know, I actually heard through the grapevine, through the grapevine, and I'll be a little incognito here, but through the grapevine, I heard that old Saint Nick has been watching it.
Even though he's Catholic, but he appreciated it from what I've heard, just because he's like, Yeah, like, you know, he doesn't really like Protestants.
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You know, like a lot of England or Europe is Catholic, but America has been a distinctly Protestant nation.
And so, for someone like Nick Fuentes, from what people have told me, he's like, I've been watching and appreciates it because he just, he's like, Yeah, we need Protestants to wake up.
And he's like, This is the TKO theological biblical argument from a Protestant pastor to kind of to kind of detox evangelicals from Zionism.
But that being said, make sure that you watch the show Monday, Wednesday, Fridays at 3 p.m.
We don't have a, we don't have a waiting screen, do we?
But there's some news we need to go into.
I don't know what the best thing is here.
I'm just going to play a little bit of music here for just a moment while we let me go back here.
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So I'm going to play that, and then we're going to go to a couple-minute break, and then we'll be right back.
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Um, and then I got sued.
So I decided to stop doing that legitimately.
No, I literally, I got sued.
I was like, all right, I can't do that kind of shit anymore.
And then once I had kids, it's really hard to be a good dad.
Actually, it's actually, I take that back.
You're the best dad a couple whiskeys deep, but your wife's not super happy about what kind of dad you are.
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Like, yeah, it's good to be some got the munchies too, boy.
No, I'll say he's drinking the Kool-Aid, actually, because you've turned on us.
You've actually said something very important here.
I want to go to this next story.
Just a little transition.
This is kind of a crazy story.
I got to be careful how I talk about this because this person is pretty unhinged and does pretty crazy stuff and attacks people and stuff.
And it's very, very nasty.
I don't really want to get involved in that.
This is like sort of the people inside of DC that do the nasty work.
This is one of those people.
And I just have no reason to have a beef.
And so, you know, George, this is nothing personal.
And we love you and support you here.
But he actually just got sentenced to more than seven years in prison.
So, like, you know, former Congressman George Santos was sentenced to more than seven years in federal prison and two years of supervised release on Friday.
Santos 36 had pleaded guilty to wire fraud and aggravated identity theft last year.
His victim said they did not have home title lock.com's triple lock 14-day protection using promo code RIFT.
So they were a victim of identity theft.
The prosecution was granted the 87 months that they had requested.
Okay, so this is a reduced sentence.
Okay, let's talk about this.
I want to reiterate too, by the way, I have a lot of opinions about a lot of people in this industry, like a lot of opinions about a lot of people.
And I don't air their duty laundry and don't talk about these things, even if I'm aware of them, until they become public.
Because I don't believe in being a gossip channel, right?
I don't believe in that.
And I don't think if someone's personal life is leaked, I also don't talk about it.
But if they leak their own stuff or talk about their own life, then I'll talk about it.
So this is one of the cases here because I don't think it's good to really get into people's legal problems and stuff like that.
But this is from our publication.
So in 2023, federal prosecutors unveiled an indictment against Santos, alleging the representative defrauded campaign donors by directing their contributions to his personal accounts and using the funds to purchase designer clothes and pay bills.
He is gay, so this makes sense.
They also allege that he fraudulently applied for pandemic unemployment benefits despite being employed.
A subsequent superseding indictment alleged Santos conspired to inflate his campaign's financial records to qualify for assistance from the National Party, as well as stole the identities and financial information of his donors to make contributions in their names unknowingly.
The 23 total counts against Santos ranged from wire fraud, money laundering, aggravated identity theft to making false statements to the federal election commission.
Santos was initially defiant, rebuffing calls for his resignation and vowing to run for re-election.
But the representative soon made his history in 2023 by becoming only the sixth member of the House to be expelled from the political body following a damning ethics report that found substantial evidence of his rule breaking.
The Department of Justice asked for an increased sentence due to his social media posts criticizing the federal government.
Hi, my name is George Santos and the DOJ has had a heart on me for since 2022.
I refuse to let them break me or my spirit.
You know, this is one of these situations.
I feel like streamers do this.
They'll like punch a girl on stream and you're like, hey, that's not good.
But that's what we see with leadership all the time.
Like, whether, I mean, even Trump on COVID, you know, we still haven't really gotten an apology for the vaccine and warp speed and those kinds of things, you know, even though like a lot of people in his base, that would actually help him out.
But that's just kind of, you know, same with, you know, sadly, a lot of pastors, but any position of leadership, whether it's political, whether it's ecclesiastical, like at every single level, people don't ever say, I was wrong.
Like COVID was like the worst because like even like friends and family, you know, like when people started red pilly and waking up and realizing that it was ridiculous, they all came back to you and said, hey, you were right.
Like they came back and instead, what they said was, well, actually, you were wrong when you were right.
And now that I'm right, it's truly being right.
And why?
Well, it's because the data changed, you know, the political, I mean, the medical science changed, you know, and like, so it doesn't shock me, honestly, that a guy like this would not be remorseful, you know, but because honestly, even the good guys, good guys in quotes, don't really seem remorseful anyways.
You know, most people, um, when they mess up, uh, there's rarely an apology.
And then what we have to do is we actually have to own up to our mistakes.
I think the big thing with COVID, too, is just a lot of people, they didn't want to admit it, and they still have a hard time admitting it because of the way they treated their family, because of the way they went about, you know, acting.
And a lot of times it becomes like an identity politics.
Like, you know, if you're if I, if I admit this, then I'm attacking myself.
And it's like, no, because saying that you were misled, saying that something was wrong and that you had the wrong information.
You know, I respect people more if they do that versus kind of sticking to their guns and just trying to say, well, you know, you're still wrong, but, you know, it's just well, that's the thing is so many people are afraid of losing credibility by, you know, publicly acknowledging that they got something wrong.
They think like, it's going to taint my perfect record, you know, and then people won't trust me and they won't like, no, the people that I don't trust are the people who are always right.
Correct.
Because nobody's always right.
So anybody who's, you know, giving off, you know, the optic, the perception that they're always right, because nobody is.
So like sometimes I'm like, how are you a conservative when you literally have taken the liberal position on all the major political cultural issues of the last four or five years?
No, when I worked in a large conservative network, you know, the majority of people got vaccinated for COVID, you know, and the majority of people, I was one of the only people often in a very, very large studio, like one of the only hosts who would come in person and do my show.
And, you know, I was in there and the staff, there was like only a couple people that would come in person to do it because everybody was home because everyone was scared.
And I was going, okay, are we really a cons wait?
We're right wing.
Like, don't we know this is actually kind of fake?
Like, oh, this isn't even real.
And they'd be like, well, the virus is real.
I go, have you ever been to it?
I mean, have you ever seen it?
You know, how could you know a virus is real if you've never seen it?
But no, but jokes aside, it was like, I do sometimes look around and I think people don't realize that most of the right-wing media and all these people are just, they've agreed to a set of lies to create a worldview that is palatable to financial gain.
And they serve as an opposition within our own party to keep us from to cool us down.
One famous pastor once said, right?
To cool it down and tone it down.
They actually are there for that.
So it's like, it's so that you can't say that we're not allowed to talk about these things, but then they tell you how you can talk about it, to what extent you can talk about it, and how often you can talk about it.
And then they make sure that you know one thing that you are not rewarded if you break out of line.
Like I've thought about this a lot, you know, because I've lost, you know, some relationships over the years.
So I've, you know, all of us are on our red pill journey, you know, like all of us are, You know, by the power of the Holy Spirit, being brought into deeper conviction and realizing more of God's truth.
And as that happens, and you begin to evolve a little bit in your political philosophy and your theological convictions and develop as a human being and mature or be sanctified, to put a theological term to it.
As that happens, what I've realized is, I've lost relationships along the way, because I've moved further right beyond people that we may have aligned with, how many rifts, to use the word, like how many rifts have there been on the right among conservatives just in the last four years.
And here's the thing: people think, okay, well, now this is my prediction.
The cement has not, if you think the cement has finally dried, okay, now this is the team, right?
You know, God has separated the wheat from the chaff, you know, and now we know, you know, the battle lines, and now I know who I can trust.
And, you know, the guys who are still with us, those are like, I think, you know, then I've got, you know, some oceanside property to sell you in Kansas.
Like, that's, that's pretty naive because here's the deal.
After a political victory like Trump, my, my prediction, I think we're seeing it in real time, is that everyone, it's a mad dash to assume the center.
That's what's happening right now.
So, so on the left, you've got Gavin Newsom, you know, doing a podcast with Charlie Kirk.
You know, it's like, hello, you know, hello, fellow conservatives.
I'm one of you.
You know, it's like, yeah, right.
But, but if you think that that's only happening on the left because they were so handedly defeated, you know, and that they're completely humiliated and they have to, they realize that they're, you know, they're communist radicals and they have to make some kind of change because, you know, the mass, you know, critical mass of the nation is not in line with them and never be elected again unless they make some kind of political shift.
If you think that's only happening on the left, then you're a fool.
That is happening just as much on the right, right?
With this, you know, MA movement, one of the, one of the things that you have happening is both on the left and on the right, the far right, for lack of a better phrase, or James Lindsay, the woke right, which doesn't exist, but whatever.
You know, it's in both directions.
People on the right are dashing towards the center, moving a little bit, you know, center left, you know, or center right instead of being far right.
And then on the left, they're moving towards the middle.
So everybody's trying to assume the middle.
And the rifts are going to continue to happen.
I think because we've had some victory, it's actually when you don't have victory.
It's actually when you're the odd man out.
It's actually when you're the remnant, when you're the minority.
That's when you actually have the most unity because you're fighting for survival.
You're fighting for your lives, right?
You're backed up against the ropes, you know, and everybody's against you.
So like during COVID, we think, oh man, this was such a divide.
There were so many incredible conservatives that were our brothers, and they betrayed us.
And I can't believe they ended up being on the other side of the aisle.
Like these guys weren't, if you failed with COVID, like, I mean, come on.
I mean, like, honestly, it was like they were locking people in their homes and injecting a foreign substance, not just in them, but in their children.
And there was no data to even say that children were under threat whatsoever.
Like this was one of the easiest tests to pass that there's ever been.
And the fact that half of conservatives, not half the country, half of conservatives failed that test.
And so my point is that now with like a Trump victory, what you have now is it's not just the calculus of the cowards who are afraid.
Now you have not just the cowards, you have the opportunist and the opportunist, right?
The chameleon who's sticks his finger into the wind to see which direction it's blowing, to see how he can monetize this and grift off of that and take like for those guys, they're like, holy crap, you know, 70% of the country is in, is in this tight little cluster right in the middle, you know, politically and culturally.
And I can sell to this many people and have this size market.
Like, my goodness, yeah, I will sell out on my convictions in a heartbeat.
I'm happy to sell out, you know?
And so right now, like, is one of these moments where I think like whether it's Israel or Russia, Ukraine, or there's so many different things where I think now is the moment to distinguish yourself.
Like, that's what I'm looking at.
That's why I'm here.
Like, we have plenty of differences, you know, theologically.
And like, I'm a pastor and, you know, like, you guys, your style is different than mine.
It's fine, you know, like, but like I do things differently.
But the reason why I'm like, yeah, I'll go out and visit Mike and Mendoza and Elijah.
And I'm respectful and honored and humbled to be invited on the show is because I'm looking at the lay of the land and I'm thinking, no, like the ranks aren't getting bigger.
So I'm looking like even across theological lines, that doesn't mean that we're all going to go to the same church on Sunday morning.
But in terms of political and cultural co-belligerence, I'm looking at the lay of the land and I'm thinking there's not that many guys who are willing to link arms and actually still fight.
Most people at this point, their calculus is the fight's over, we already won and now it's time to grill in the backyard and just take it easy.
I mean, Trump winning is not going to solve all our problems.
And we already seen how people have people that a lot of us trusted that we've seen, because the news industry, we lost all hope in.
And on Twitter, X, whatever, you find that we gravitated to more of those type of influencers, more of those type of people that were supposedly truth speakers.
And what we're finding now, for instance, like Israel, is that they're just going wholeheartedly, you know, with Elon with the H-1Bs.
They're just doing whatever he wants.
And if their intentions were originally good intentions because they wanted to share truth, it seems like a lot of people have got so far away from that and have their eyes on the money.
And trust me, we all like money.
Unfortunately, Elijah doesn't like to pay me, but we all do like money.
And there's a huge fight that we still have to go through.
There's a lot of things in this country that have to be changed.
There's a lot of things in the world that has to be changed.
And it's not going to be easy.
And the best thing is that we have people like you with us, joining with us and getting by each other's, getting each other's backs.
Because a lot of times I find too, like, for instance, when COVID happened, anytime that you spoke the truth, anytime you speak the truth or you seek to get more information on something, when you're on the right direction is when people usually attack you.
And I went through the same thing as you mentioned.
You lost a lot of people.
During COVID and me creating my political page, I had a lot of people turn their back on me.
I even, when I got arrested by the FBI for January 6th, was because my cousin actually turned me into the FDI.
And honestly, there is so much more to talk about.
And like I said, Joel will be back out.
Hopefully I can go on his show as well.
It would be fantastic out there and probably a little more serious people than I am.
But I do appreciate the fact that so many of you guys join us for every episode of our shows.
I really, really am blessed by you guys.
You know, I really don't take it for granted.
I know you could be watching anything, could be doing anything.
And the fact that so many of you pop in and want to listen to our guests, want to listen to, really, realistically, you come from Mike Mendoza, which we know while sort of living in his shadow.
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