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Just 34 days away from the Election — and on the first day of October, we’re already getting hit with October surprises left and right. The massive escalation between the conflict with Iran and Israel, Hurricane Helene and the Biden admin’s response.. How will this affect tonight’s debate?
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All right, so let's just go ahead and we're going to jump into what's going on here.
I was on the internet the other day, and not only are we going to talk about the corruption, this is the pre-show of what's going on with Tim Walz and his China connections, but I think we also need to begin to talk a little bit about Kamala and some of the weird stuff that she's been up to.
In the middle of everything we've been talking about, let's jump in by saying that a hot topic today is the Israel conflict.
Mike Pence just put this out today: that the U.S. Navy is standing by to engage as America stands with Israel.
It reminds me of when the governor of Texas said that he stood with Israel for a guy that's in a wheelchair.
I mean, tonight they're going to talk about a lot of things, one of which I'm assuming is going to be our position on Israel.
And the whole point is that my opinion is that Trump is the most pro-Israel president in the history of presidents ever, and that his entire platform is running the fact that Kamala and Biden are not favored by Israel.
They've abandoned them to the core.
I don't even know if this is going to pop up tonight, but I'm assuming they're going to talk about Israel at some point.
I think it's probably going to be brought up a couple of times during the debate.
Again, it's going to be interesting hearing what JD Vance has to say about all of this because he's in a tough position.
You know, obviously he's going to say that he stands with Israel as well, but then you also are going to have to figure out what's going on because you got the little CCP puppet on the other side of all of this.
He's going to be kind of tap dancing around the issue.
He's also going to be, you know, what's so crazy to me?
I don't think most Americans realize we're funding both sides of this, right?
We're obviously releasing millions of dollars and billions of dollars to Iran while also funding Israel as well.
And I don't know if the moderators are going to call them out on that because we're fueling both sides of this war.
Yeah, I voted for the cum dumpster, Kamala Harris.
Yeah.
No, but what's interesting about tonight's debate is like, you know, you have Kamala Harris, who's supposed to be debating JD Vance, okay?
So realistically, you have one of the biggest supporters of the military-industrial complex, Kamala Harris, who I saw, she played off, you know, her support for Israel.
She does support Israel because you have to play the game, right?
And so one of the main things is, by the way, I can help you with that if you need help.
Okay, all right.
One of the main things that I noticed is that when she was challenged by a protester at one of her rallies, where they were like, oh, you know, what about free Palestine?
She didn't say that she cared about Palestine.
What she did talk about was she did a black woman's talking moment.
So when I'm speaking, have respect, please, for a woman is speaking.
Do you remember this moment?
Maybe you missed it.
She played the, and then people were saying, oh, a crazy person tried to interrupt a black woman.
Why are people trying to interrupt black women when they speak?
Can black women not speak without being interrupted?
And it all deflected from the Israel stuff.
So she's intentionally not said her position, but I do know that she disinvited or didn't allow certain like Palestinian protesters on the stage and then said she invited some of the victims' families from October 7th.
So I know that she's in bet.
And then JD Vance is Palantir and he's going to benefit financially from the war.
So I think on the war side of things, I think we're kind of hopeless here.
I think they're going to both try to avoid it because they're both going to say the other person doesn't support Israel, but they both want a war with Iran.
That's my opinion.
So that's where I stand.
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Well, when a black woman speaks, everybody should sit down.
I'm picking out a few of the topics right here of what I think our predictions are.
Yeah.
We should bet on that.
Am interested if as well as Mike, if you can regularly in the Discord, I have the Discord here.
If you can go to Polymarket's site as well or throw some predictions inside of our chat on X.
That way I can just bring them up throughout the show and we can check them out.
But one of the most interesting things with the betting markets are I think nothing's going to happen tonight.
So here's my prediction.
We'll go around the room.
My prediction is there's no such thing as an undecided voter as what Brianna was saying earlier before we started the stream.
The right's going to say JD Vance won.
The left is going to say that Tim Waltz won because they're just going to say that.
I think that we all lose no matter what, because I genuinely, genuinely do not think that these debates are going to have any effect on the election at all, except give us shit to talk about tonight.
So thank you guys for the stuff to talk about.
But my prediction is nothing's going to change.
Are you getting tired of nothing changing yet, Anon?
Well, that's also, did you also hear, too, that that was the same night that Michelle Obama, Michael, came out and said that he had had or he or she had had her pregnancies through IVF.
She said that at the DNC.
She's like, if it wasn't for IVF, I wouldn't have my kids.
So that's not helping the rumors as well about Barry being gay.
Well, I mean, I'm kind of interested if JD Vance is going to summon up any aura at all, this debate, because I mean, so far it's kind of been lacking in that department.
He's kind of, you know, like we were just talking earlier about the whole donut shop incident where he was just like, yeah, I'll just take whatever makes sense.
Like he's never been in a donut shop before, which, by the way, doesn't look like he's never been in a donut shop before.
And then other than that, I mean, Tim Walz, just a weird guy.
Obviously, she was talking earlier about the whole Chinese connections.
I want to know how consequential those actually are.
They seem to be pretty consequential because sometimes people will just kind of mudgeling once it comes to the opposing side.
But I think that there are some substantial weird connections there.
We know JD Vance does have some connections too, as we talked about.
The Palantir thing.
You know, at least ostensibly, Peter Thiel is on our side with certain things, except for homosexuality.
Who, by the way, the first time I got investigated by the FBI, he tried to get me put on a red flag list because of a fight we got into on Twitter.
He only literally tagged the FBI and he and I got inquired by them and he tried to tag me to say I was crazy couldn't own firearms because I fought him on Twitter.
So ultimately, they're saying that the federal government was well aware that there are ties to Mr. Walls and the CCP.
Now, as many people know, probably already, he's visited China several times, I think over three dozen times.
He's also taught classes over there.
And so, and it all has connections to the CCP.
Now, many of us were wondering, what the heck?
Why the heck are the Democrats actually picking Tim Walz to run the same ticket as Kamala Harris if you really wanted a fighting chance at all of this?
You know, Josh Shapiro would have been the winning choice if you're trying to win over those in Pennsylvania.
Yep, and Jewish voters as well.
But they didn't go with him.
They went with this guy who's not very likable.
He's very weird.
I mean, he's coming off the plane doing this whole thing.
It's very strange.
But Democrats, the deep state, love themselves a corrupt politician.
We saw it with Joe Biden when they pushed everyone off of the primary to clear the lane for Joe.
I think that's the reason why he's got this now in the bag because he has probably taken in some cash or some side deals.
We don't know what that's speculation.
But at this point, the fact that they don't even want to talk about it, the fact that they knew about it, according to this whistleblower, tells you everything you need to know.
You know, the Chinese government is one of the, I think, the greatest threat to our country.
And I think it's the reason why during natural disasters and all these situations, we're like, why is our government failing?
It's not that failing because they don't know how to respond.
I think the CCP has all of them by their balls at this point and knows that they're all corrupt and apply some pressure because they love seeing this stuff.
I mean, we're watching our country kind of collapse and it's all at the hands of the CCP.
It all has ties to them when you go back and you look at all this.
Even with that in mind, sports betting site polymarket.com has a prediction on who's going to be running tonight's or who's going to be winning tonight's show.
Right here on Polymarket directly, 66% chance that Vance will, not Vance, that Waltz will win.
So that's what they think is that there's a 66% chance.
So two out of three people are betting on it.
I feel like I see that on Vance.
I think it's like, it probably has to do with like polling or something.
Well, so I mean, this is just straight up public opinion, which is why it's like a betting market.
So, I mean, it's not like polling that's like derived from people taking focus groups or like, you know, how do they normally do with stuff in politics or whatever?
This is just straight up popular opinion, people betting on it.
But also, what's interesting too is that if you go to other sites, like there's Predicted as well, they have different results.
And I think it's because Polymarket's like a little bit more, I feel like it's been leaning a little bit more conservative recently.
And then they hired Nate Silver as well.
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So I think that's kind of kind of like it's the most honest one.
Well, anyway, on the flip side with the China stuff, reiterating back onto that, I don't think that – okay, this is why the whole Lauren Chen and the Tenet situation and the Russian money situation has been such a frustrating thing to me.
The main reason why it's been bothersome to me is because everybody's taking money from foreign countries.
And in fact, they say, but you know, Russia's an adversarial country.
China, have you seen the speaking fees they're giving Americans?
Because we were demonetized for so many years on YouTube since 2021.
I got demonetized the day after January 6th.
So January 7th, I got demonetized for being in the Capitol.
And yeah, they demonetized me.
But Sarah Not Rowe and some other girl who run that stop advertiser.
You know what I'm talking about?
That bitch.
She's nasty woman.
Nasty woman.
No, she really is, though.
So what happened was they called YouTube and were like, they called YouTube, called Facebook and Instagram, got them to delete my accounts, said I was a terrorist, and I got deleted off for being involved in terrorism.
And then they found out I was a credentialed journalist, and then they turned off my monetization.
And then when I asked for it back, they said, yeah, well, I know you're not a terrorist, you're a journalist, but there's a lot of pressure on us to not have monetization on this content.
So we'll put it back.
And it's 2024, and I'm still waiting for them to turn that back on.
Let's just say this.
We lost a lot of money that day.
You used to make $20,000 a month on Facebook about, and the channel used to bring about 10 grand a month.
That's like 30 grand a month gone from the show permanently.
That's the key thing with the government now: I want things to make sense.
I don't know if people know this.
Nothing makes any fucking sense on the internet, but also it doesn't make sense anywhere.
It's like, I wish there was like a process where you're like, hey, I just got in trouble for doing journalism, which is against the First Amendment, to be penalized for doing something that's protected.
And then a company's not abiding by the Constitution.
Like, well, it's a private company.
You get all these twats that are in there.
They're always going, it's a private company.
They can do whatever they want.
Well, until Elon Musk buys it.
Then they want to shut it down, right?
Until the wrong person has the power.
That's why I'm not against totalitarianism.
I'm just against the wrong dictators.
Like, meaning, like, you know, we need the institutional power.
That's why we lose because you don't need to campaign when you control public perception.
You don't need to campaign when you control ideology.
Like, if you can take a college student and get them to perceive the world a certain way in four years, change the way that media is presented so people feel like they need to go to college and then use social media algorithms to control what information they get.
Kamala Harris doesn't need to give interviews.
She doesn't need to give speeches.
This debate doesn't even need to happen because they are going after the low-information, uninformed voters.
People think because Trump is campaigning harder or JD Vance is doing more visits to creepy visits to donut shops, honestly.
No, I was going to say that, you know, that's the problem that we have: we have to campaign and actually work 10 times harder to get barely half as much votes.
So when the right-wingers are like, dude, Trump's got it in the bag, not even thinking about the rigging, not even thinking about the fixing of the whole thing, they don't have it in the bag because the average retard who's going to head up to the polling booth is going to vote for Kamala Harris because they want decency back in the White House, even though she's already been there.
He's a little awkward, but I mean, he could have played it off.
He would have been like, I need someone who's been working here for more than a year because I need an expert on these donuts here because he obviously doesn't know how to order a donut.
But so there was this thing, I'm talking there, but there was this thing called the Flobe, where it was like you would attach clippers to a vacuum cleaner, and then it was a way for people to cut hair at home, but then it would get vacuumed up right away.
And, you know, it could.
Yeah, I guess it's not the perfect shot right now.
And I don't have really have access to the computer right now.
I could kind of reach over, but you know, not in that way.
But it looks like he got a haircut with a flowby because it's like, it's like there's, there's nothing, there's nothing up to here.
I guess I can't really talk because my hair kind of looks the same right now, but there's nothing up to here.
And then there's just like a little splotch of hair on his head.
So kind of just interesting for a presidential candidate to have something like that.
It's probably not the best look, but I mean, what do I know?
And then he also said on there, too, he said, Flobe, you're tearing out my soul.
Also said, Rumble Rick said, Elijah, epic production value.
That's pretty good from our, we're good here.
And hey, if you're watching Rumble Rick, we'll be doing some better collabs and maybe we'll do some more special events, but I think we'll have to brand it a little bit better.
I don't know if you know that, but they're not big fans of the show.
They're not fans of me.
And the interesting thing was, is like they went on, they tried to prove that they weren't like terrible people by making fun of my dead mom for like six months, which to me, any community that like makes fun of dead people is like, I don't really need to say anything.
That's not really like the greatest community.
However, they continually, like every day, they make up like a new lie.
But do you know how far black Twitter's gone?
Is not only do they make fun of my mom being dead, but now, according to my screen, this is not, this is really going around that I killed my mom.
So that I homicide.
They literally, people are believing that.
Now people write me like, you murderer.
So as of today, I've murdered my own mother.
So that's the reliability.
And that's why you can't take the internet too seriously.
Because if I did murder someone, you wouldn't know about it.
They don't want people commenting on it, they don't want you to give it the correct, they want their commentary.
I'm not joking, that's where they started, so like it.
The point is it shows like this that we don't care what we say right, so like.
You're probably a little bit more of a not, you're a better human being than all of us at the tables.
So that's true.
My wife saw the episode.
She's like, oh, she has a sweet girl, because sometimes in the political world, women lose their sweetness.
Right, they're a little bit catty and a little bit bitchy.
It's just a very true thing.
Yeah um, and so the point of the matter is is people are really afraid of being canceled.
So people do correct themselves.
But John Kerry, what his name's?
Not Carry?
What's his real last name?
Uh wait, John Stein.
He changed his name to Carry, but he's got a different last name.
I don't know why he changed his name, I don't know.
But John Kerry changed his name.
But he was talking about how the main thing in their way is the first amendment is free speech.
And then Hillary Clinton at the Hillary Clinton Foundation said the same day that um, we need we, we've lost uh, where we need to get control of the media narrative made a reel of it.
You saw that yeah, John Kerry said the biggest problem is that people have too many places to access information and we can't control things.
So they don't.
So they don't know what to do.
Yet they said the first amendment is causing a problem, so they don't know how to stop us from reporting on this stuff.
So then they just create copyrights so that they can sue us privately for using their work that does.
That's why I said nothing makes sense.
I wish I could sue over losing my monetization.
Why would a public debate be private property?
If it's our, our election, I don't give, I don't know uh, why does this guy look like a, like a dead troll?
Yeah, I mean, that's what happens if you work in the corporate media for too long, you lose usually look like piece of garbage uh, but John Kerry, when you're referring to that sound bite uh, he looks like he is dead.
two minutes we're good okay so i've got this 45 second sound bite that we could play and i'm going to send it over to you right this we're going to take this sound bite and we're going to play it as fast as we can Ladies and gentlemen, send it in to all right now and yes, we are good to go.
The U.S. still considers it the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world, and it has drastically reduced the time it would take to develop a nuclear weapon.
It is down now to one or two weeks' time.
Governor Walls, if you are the final voice in the situation room, would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran?
Well, thank you and thank you for those joining and holding tonight.
Let's keep in mind where this started.
October 7th, Hamas terrorists massacred over 1,400 Israelis and took prisoners.
Iran, Israel's ability to be able to defend itself is absolutely fundamental.
Getting hostages back, fundamental.
And ending the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
But the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there.
You saw it experienced today, where along with our Israeli partners and our coalition, able to stop the incoming attack.
But what's fundamental here is that steady leadership is going to matter.
It's clear, and the world saw it on that debate stage a few weeks ago, a nearly 80-year-old Donald Trump talking about crowd sizes is not what we need in this moment.
But it's not just that.
It's those that were closest to Donald Trump that understand how dangerous he is when the world is this dangerous.
His chief of staff, John Kelly, said that he was the most flawed human being he'd ever met.
And both of his secretaries of defense and his national security advisors said he should be nowhere near the White House.
Now, the person closest to them, to Donald Trump, said he's unfit for the highest office.
That was Senator Vance.
What we've seen out of Vice President Harris is we've seen steady leadership.
We've seen a calmness that is able to be able to draw on the coalitions to bring them together.
Understanding that our allies matter.
When our allies see Donald Trump turn towards Vladimir Putin, turn towards North Korea, when we start to see that type of fickleness around holding the coalitions together, we will stay committed.
And as the vice president said today is, we will protect our forces and our allied forces, and there will be consequences.
And thanks, most importantly, the American people who are watching this evening and caring enough about this country to pay attention to this vice presidential debate.
I want to answer the question, but I want to actually give an introduction to myself a little bit because I recognize a lot of Americans don't know who either one of us are.
I was raised in a working-class family.
My mother required food assistance for periods of her life.
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My grandmother required Social Security helped to raise me.
And she raised me in part because my own mother struggled with addiction for a big chunk of my early life.
I went to college on the GI Bill after I enlisted in the Marine Corps and served in Iraq.
And so I stand here asking to be your vice president with extraordinary gratitude for this country, for the American dream that made it possible for me to live my dreams.
And most importantly, I know that a lot of you are worried about the chaos in the world and the feeling that the American dream is unattainable.
So I want to try to convince you tonight over the next 90 minutes that if we get better leadership in the White House, if we get Donald Trump, he's been muting the dream once again.
To answer this particular question, we have to remember that as much as Governor Waltz just accused Donald Trump of being an agent of chaos, Donald Trump actually delivered stability in the world, and he did it by establishing effective deterrence.
People were afraid of stepping out of line.
Iran, which launched this attack, has received over $100 billion in unfrozen assets thanks to the Kamala Harris administration.
What do they use that money for?
They used it to buy weapons that they're now launching against our allies and got from potentially launching against the United States as well.
Donald Trump recognized that for people to fear the United States, you needed peace through strength.
They needed to recognize that if they got out of line, the United States global leadership would put a stability and peace back in the world.
Now you asked about creative strike, Margaret, and I want to answer the question.
Look, it is up to Israel what they think they need to do to keep their country safe, and we should support our allies wherever they are when they're fighting the bad guys.
I think that's the right approach to take with the Israel question.
We'll sometimes hear a revisionist history, but when Donald Trump was in office, it was Donald Trump who we had a coalition of nations that had boxed Iran's nuclear program in the inability to advance it.
Donald Trump pulled that program and put nothing else in its place.
So Iran is closer to a nuclear weapon than they were before because of Donald Trump's fickle leadership.
And when Iran shot down an American aircraft in international airspace, Donald Trump tweeted because that's the standard diplomacy of Donald Trump.
And when Iranian missiles did fall near U.S. troops and they received traumatic brain injuries, Donald Trump wrote it off as headaches.
Look, our allies understand that Donald Trump is fickle.
He will go to whoever has the most flattery or where it makes sense to him.
Steady leadership, like you witnessed today, like you witnessed in April.
Both Iranian attacks were repelled.
Our coalition is strong, and we need the steady leadership that Kamala Harris is providing.
Senator Vance, the U.S. did have a diplomatic deal with Iran to temporarily pause parts of its nuclear program, and President Trump did exit that deal.
He recently said, just five days ago, the U.S. must now make a diplomatic deal with Iran because the consequences are impossible.
Well, first of all, Margaret, diplomacy is not a dirty word, but I think that something that Governor Waltz just said is quite extraordinary.
You yourself just said Iran is as close to a nuclear weapon today as they have ever been.
And Governor Waltz, you blamed Donald Trump.
Who has been the vice president for the last three and a half years?
And the answer is you're running mate, not mine.
Donald Trump consistently made the world more secure.
Now, we talk about the sequence of events that led us to where we are right now and ignore October the 7th, which I appreciate Governor Waltz bringing up.
It was during the administration of Kamala Harris.
So, Governor Waltz can criticize Donald Trump's tweets, but effective, smart diplomacy from peace through strength is how you bring stability back to a very broken world.
The storm could become one of the deadliest on record.
More than 160 people are dead and hundreds more are missing.
Scientists say climate change makes these hurricanes larger stronger and more to deadly because we have the historical people a lot.
Senator Vance, according to CBS News polling, seven in ten Americans and more than 60 percent of Republicans under the age of 45 favor the U.S. taking steps to try and reduce climate change.
Senator, what responsibility would the Trump administration have to try and reduce the impact of climate change?
So, first of all, let's start with the hurricane because it's an unbelievable, unspeakable human tragedy.
I just saw today, actually, a photograph of two grandparents on a roof with a six-year-old child, and it was the last photograph ever taken of them because the roof collapsed and those innocent people lost their lives.
And I'm sure Governor Waltz joins me in saying our hearts go out to those innocent people, our prayers go out to them, and we want as robust and aggressive as a federal response as we can get to save as many lives as possible.
And then, of course, afterwards, to help the people in those communities rebuild.
I mean, these are communities that I love.
Some of them I know very personally in Appalachia, all across the Southeast.
They need their government to do their job.
And I commit that when Donald Trump is president again, the government will put the citizens of this country first when they suffer from a disaster.
Nonora, you asked about climate change.
I think this is a very important issue.
Look, a lot of people are justifiably worried about all these crazy weather patterns.
I think it's important for us, first of all, to say Donald Trump and I support clean air, clean water.
We want the environment to be cleaner and safer.
But one of the things that I've noticed from our Democratic friends talking a lot about is a concern about carbon emissions, this idea that carbon emissions drives all of the climate change.
Well, let's just say that's true.
Just for the sake of argument, so we're not arguing about weird science.
Let's just say that's true.
Well, if you believe that, what would you want to do?
The answer is that you'd want to reshore as much American manufacturing as possible, and you'd want to produce as much energy as possible in the United States of America because we are the cleanest economy in the entire world.
What have Kamala Harris's policies actually led to?
More energy production in China, more manufacturing overseas, more doing business in some of the dirtiest parts of the entire world.
And when I say that, I mean the amount of carbon emissions they're doing per unit of economic output.
So if we actually care about getting cleaner air and cleaner water, the best thing to do is to double down and invest in American workers and the American people.
And unfortunately, Kamala Harris has done exactly the opposite.
Well, look, what the President has said is that if the democracy, in particular, Kamala Harris and her leadership, if they really believe that climate change is serious, what they would be doing is more manufacturing and more energy production in the United States of America, and that's not what they're doing.
So clearly, Kamala Harris herself doesn't believe her own rhetoric on this.
If she did, she would actually agree with Donald Trump's energy policies.
Now, something Governor Waltz said I think is important to touch upon because when we talk about clean energy, I think that's a slogan that often the Democrats will use here.
I'm talking about the digital leadership.
And the real issue is that if you're spending hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars and taxpayer money on solar panels that are made in China, it's going to be like the economy dirtier.
We should be making more of the solar panels here in the United States.
Just working out the hunger for a lot of them are being made overseas in China.
If you really want to make the environment cleaner, you've got to invest in more energy production.
So, first of all, Margaret, before we talk about deportations, we have to stop the bleeding.
We have a historic immigration crisis because Kamala Harris started and said that she wanted to undo all of Donald Trump's border policies.
94 executive orders suspending deportations, decriminalizing illegal aliens, massively increasing the asylum fraud that exists in our system.
That has opened the floodgates.
And what it's meant is that a lot of fentanyl is coming into our country.
I had a mother who struggled with opioid addiction and has gotten clean.
I don't want people who are struggling with addiction to be deprived of their second chance because Kamala Harris let in fentanyl into our communities at record levels.
So you've got to stop the bleeding.
You've got to reimplement Donald Trump's border policies, build the wall, re-implement deportations.
And that gets me to your point, Margaret, about what do we actually do?
So we've got 20, 25 million illegal aliens who are here in the country.
What do we do with them?
I think the first thing that we do is we start with the criminal migrants.
About a million of those people have committed some form of crime in addition to crossing the border illegally.
I think you start with deportations on those folks.
And then I think you make it harder for illegal aliens to undercut the wages of American workers.
A lot of people will go home if they can't work for less than minimum wage in our own country.
And by the way, that'll be really good for our workers who just want to earn a fair wage for doing a good day's work.
And the final point, Margaret, is you ask about family separation.
Right now in this country, Margaret, we have 320,000 children that the Department of Homeland Security has effectively lost.
Some of them have been sex trafficked.
Some of them hopefully are at homes with their families.
Some of them have been used as drug trafficking mules.
The real family separation policy in this country is unfortunately Kamala Harris's wide open southern border.
And I'd ask my fellow Americans to remember when she came into office, she said she was going to do this.
Real leadership would be saying, you know what, I screwed up.
We're going to go back to Donald Trump's border policies.
Governor, do you care to respond to any of those specific allegations, including that the vice president is, quote, letting in fentanyl and using kids as drug mules, among other things, regarding children?
And the Chamber of Commerce and the Wall Street Journal said, pass this thing.
Kamala Harris helped get there.
1,500 new border agents, detection for drugs, DOJ money to speed up the adjudications on this, just what America wants.
But as soon as I was getting ready to pass and actually tackle this, Donald Trump said no, told them to vote against it because it gives him a campaign issue.
It gives him what would Donald Trump talk about if we actually did some of these things?
And they need to be done by the legislature.
You can't just do this through the executive branch.
So look, we have the options to do this.
Donald Trump had four years.
He had four years to do this.
And he promised you, America, how easy it would be.
I'll build you a big, beautiful wall, and Mexico will pay for it.
Less than 2% of that wall got built and Mexico didn't pay a dime.
But here we are again, nine years after he came down that escalator, dehumanizing people and telling them what he was going to do.
As far as a deportation plan, at one point, Senator Vance said it was so unworkable to be laughable.
Margaret, my point is that we already have massive child separations thanks to Kamala Harris's open border.
And I didn't accuse Kamala Harris of inviting drug mules.
I said that she enabled the Mexican drug cartels to operate freely in this country.
And we know that they use children as drug mules.
And it is a disgrace, and it has to stop.
Look, I think what Tim said just doesn't pass the smell test.
For three years, Kamala Harris went out bragging that she was going to undo Donald Trump's border policy.
She did exactly that.
We had a record number of illegal crossings.
We had a record number of fentanyl coming into our country.
And now, now that she's running for president, or a few months before, she says that somehow she got religion and cared a lot about a piece of legislation.
The only thing that she did when she became the vice president, when she became the appointed border czar, was to undo 94 Donald Trump executive actions that opened the border.
This problem is leading to massive problems in the United States of America.
Parents who can't afford health care, schools that are overwhelmed, it's got to stop, and it will when Donald Trump is president.
Look, Margaret, first of all, the gross majority of what we need to do at the southern border is just empowering law enforcement to do their job.
I've been to the southern border more than our borders are.
Kamala Harris has been.
And it's actually heartbreaking because the Border Patrol agents, they just want to be empowered to do their job.
Of course, additional resources would help.
But most of this is about the president and the vice president empowering our law enforcement to say, if you try to come across the border illegally, you've got to stay in Mexico.
You've got to go back through proper channels.
Now, Governor Waltz brought up the community of Springfield, and he's very worried about the things that I've said in Springfield.
Look, in Springfield, Ohio, and in communities all across this country, you've got schools that are overwhelmed.
You've got hospitals that are overwhelmed.
You have got housing that is totally unaffordable because we brought in millions of illegal immigrants to compete with Americans for scarce homes.
The people that I'm most worried about in Springfield, Ohio are the American citizens who have had their lives destroyed by Kamala Harris's open border.
It is a disgrace, Tim.
And I actually think, I agree with you.
I think you want to solve this problem, but I don't think that Kamala Harris does.
And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status, temporary, protected status.
Margaret, the rules were that you guys were going to fact check.
And since you're fact-checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on.
So there's an application called the CBP One App, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for land, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border won.
Well, first of all, you're going to hear a lot from Tim Waltz this evening, and you just heard it in the answer.
Lot of what Kamala Harris proposes to do.
And some of it, I'll be honest with you, it even sounds pretty good.
Here's what you won't hear, is that Kamala Harris has already done it because she's been the vice president for three and a half years.
She had the opportunity to enact all of these great policies.
And what she's actually done instead is drive the cost of food higher by 25%, drive the cost of housing higher by about 60%, open the American southern border and make middle-class life unaffordable for a large number of Americans.
If Kamala Harris has such great plans for how to address middle-class problems, then she ought to do them now.
Not one asking for a promotion, but in the job the American people gave her three and a half years ago.
And the fact that she isn't tells you a lot about how much you can trust her actual plans.
Now, Donald Trump's economic plan is not just a plan, but it's also a record.
A lot of those same economists attack Donald Trump's plans, and they have PhDs, but they don't have common sense and they don't have wisdom.
Because Donald Trump's economic policies delivered the highest take-home pay in a generation in this country, 1.5% inflation, and to boot, peace and security all over the world.
So when people say that Donald Trump's economic plan doesn't make sense, I say look at the record.
He delivered rising take-home pay for American workers.
Now, Tim admirably admits that they want to undo the Trump tax cuts.
But if you look at what was so different about Donald Trump's tax cuts, even from previous Republican tax cut plans, is that a lot of those resources went to giving more take-home pay to middle-class and working class Americans.
It was passed in 2017, and you saw an American economic boom unlike we've seen in a generation in this country.
That is a record that I'm proud to run on, and we're going to get back to that common sense wisdom so that you can afford to live the American dream again.
I know a lot of you are struggling.
I know a lot of you are worried about paying the bills.
It's going to stop when Donald Trump brings back common sense to this country.
Governor, you say trust the experts, but those same experts for 40 years said that if we shipped our manufacturing base off to China, we'd get cheaper goods.
They lied about that.
They said if we shipped our industrial base off to other countries, to Mexico and elsewhere, it would make the middle class stronger.
They were wrong about that.
They were wrong about the idea that if we made America less self-reliant, less productive in our own nation, that it would somehow make us better off.
And they were wrong about it.
And for the first time in a generation, Donald Trump had the wisdom and the courage to say to that bipartisan consensus, we're not doing it anymore.
We're bringing American manufacturing back.
We're unleashing American energy.
We're going to make more of our own stuff.
And this isn't just an economic issue.
I mean, I've got three beautiful little kids at home, seven, four, and two.
Much of what the senator said right there, I'm in agreement with him on this.
I watched it happen too.
I watched it to my communities, and we talked about that.
But we had people undercutting the right to collectively bargain.
We had right to work states made it more difficult.
We had companies that were willing to ship it over, and we saw people profit, folks that are venture capital in some cases, putting money into companies that were overseas.
We're in agreement that we bring those home.
The issue is Donald Trump is talking about it.
Kamala Harris has a record 250,000 more manufacturing jobs just out of the IRA.
So what Tim Waltz is doing, and I honestly, Tim, I think you got a tough job here because you've got to play whack-a-mole.
You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising take-home pay, which of course he did.
You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver lower inflation, which of course he did.
And then you've simultaneously got to defend Kamala Harris's atrocious economic record, which has made gas, groceries, and housing unaffordable for American citizens.
I was raised by a woman who would sometimes go into medical debt so that she could put food on the table in our household.
I know what it's like to not be able to afford the things that you need to afford.
We can do so much better.
To all of you watching, we can get back to an America that's affordable again.
We just got to get back to common sense economic principles.
Yeah, well, and to the folks out there who didn't get in my community, I've tried to do the best I can, but I've not been perfect.
And I'm a knucklehead at times, but it's always been about that.
Those same people elected me to Congress for 12 years.
And in Congress, I was one of the most bipartisan people, working on things like farm bills that we got done, working on veterans' benefits.
And then the people of Minnesota were able to elect me to governor twice.
So look, my commitment has been from the beginning to make sure that I'm there for the people, to make sure that I get this right.
I will say more than anything.
Many times I will talk a lot.
I will get caught up in the rhetoric.
But being there, the impact it made, the difference it made in my life, I learned a lot about China.
I hear the critiques of this.
I would make the case that Donald Trump should have come on one of those trips with us.
I guarantee you he wouldn't be praising Xi Jinping about COVID.
And I guarantee you, he wouldn't start a trade war that he ends up losing.
So this is about trying to understand the world.
It's about trying to do the best you can for your community.
And then it's putting yourself out there and letting your folks understand what it is.
My commitment, whether it be through teaching, which I was good at, or whether it was being a good soldier or was being a good member of Congress, those are the things that I think are the values that people care about.
Well, first of all, Margaret, because I've always been open.
And sometimes, of course, I've disagreed with the president, but I've also been extremely open about the fact that I was wrong about Donald Trump.
I was wrong, first of all, because I believed some of the media stories that turned out to be dishonest fabrications of his record.
But most importantly, Donald Trump delivered for the American people: rising wages, rising take-home pay, an economy that worked for normal Americans, a secure southern border, a lot of things, frankly, that I didn't think he'd be able to deliver on.
And yeah, when you screw up, when you misspeak, when you get something wrong and you change your mind, you ought to be honest with the American people about it.
It's one of the reasons, Margaret, why I've done so many interviews is because I think it's important to actually explain to the American people where I come down on the issues and what changed.
Now, you pointed out to messages from 2020.
Margaret, I've been extremely consistent that I think there were a lot of things that we could have done better in the Trump administration the first round if Congress was doing its job.
I strongly believe, and I've been a United States Senator, that Congress is not just a high-class debating society.
It's not just a forum for senators and congressmen to whine about problems.
It's a forum to govern.
So there were a lot of things on the border, on tariffs, for example, where I think that we could have done so much more if the Republican Congress and the Democrats in Congress were so obsessed with impeaching Donald Trump they couldn't actually govern.
And I want to talk about this tariff issue in particular, Margaret, because Tim just accused this of being a national sales tax.
Look, the one thing, and you're probably surprised to hear me praising Joe Biden, but the one thing that Joe Biden did is he continued some of the Trump tariffs that protected American manufacturing jobs.
And it's the one issue, the most pro-worker part of the Biden administration.
It's the one issue where Kamala Harris has run away from Joe Biden's record.
Think about this.
If you're trying to employ slave laborers in China at $3 a day, you're going to do that and undercut the wages of American workers unless our country stands up for itself and says you're not accessing our markets unless you're paying middle-class Americans a fair wage.
Governor Walls, after Roe versus Wade was overturned, you signed a bill into law that made Minnesota one of the least restrictive states in the nation when it comes to abortion.
Former President Trump said in the last debate that you believe abortion, quote, in the ninth month is absolutely fine.
And I want to talk about this issue because I know a lot of Americans care about it.
I know a lot of Americans don't agree with everything that I've ever said on this topic.
And, you know, I grew up in a working-class family in a neighborhood where I knew a lot of young women who had unplanned pregnancies and decided to terminate those pregnancies because they feel like they didn't have any other options.
And, you know, one of them is actually very dear to me.
Well, Nora, first of all, I never supported a national ban.
I did during when I was running for Senate in 2022, talk about setting some international standard.
For example, we have a partial birth abortion ban in this country at the federal level.
I don't think anybody's trying to get rid of that, or at least I hope not.
Though I know the Democrats have taken the abortion stance, but Nora, you know, one of the things that changed is in the state of Ohio, we had a referendum in 2023, and the people of Ohio voted overwhelmingly.
By the way, again, what I learned from that, Nora, is that we've got to do a better job at winning back people's trust.
Maybe I'll volunteer to, you know, die in a trench in Taiwan tomorrow because at this point, like our country is kind of doomed when these are our options.
You get two options.
This is the problem with the American political system.
Primaries are set up that you always have two candidates that are pre-approved by the system.
And, you know, Trump was our best bet against it, but he's now running the most progressive and liberal campaign out of his three.
And he got a palantir military industrial complex guy who was.
For example, if a kid steals guns, that's going to be different if a parent hands over a gun knowing that their kid is potentially dangerous.
Look, I want to just sort of speak as a father of three beautiful little kids, and our oldest is now in second grade.
And like a lot of parents, we send our kids to school with such hope and such joy and such pride at their little faces on the first day of school.
And we know, unfortunately, that a lot of kids are going to experience this terrible epidemic of gun violence.
And of course, our hearts go out to the families that are affected by this terrible stuff.
And we do have to do better.
And I think that Governor Waltz and I actually probably agree that we need to do better on this.
The question is just how do we actually do it?
Now, here's something that really bothers me and worries me about this epidemic of violence.
The gross majority, close to 90% in some of the statistics I've seen, of the gun violence in this country is committed with illegally obtained firearms.
And while we're on that topic, we know that thanks to Kamala Harris's open border, we've seen a massive influx in the number of illegal guns run by the Mexican drug cartel.
So that number, the amount of illegal guns in our country is higher today than it was three and a half years ago.
But what do we do about the schools?
What do we do to protect our kids?
And I think the answer is, and I say this not loving the answer, because I don't want my kids to go to school in a school that feels unsafe or where there are visible signs of security.
But I unfortunately think that we have to increase security in our schools.
We have to make the doors lock better.
We have to make the doors stronger.
We've got to make the windows stronger.
And of course, we've got to increase school resource officers because the idea that we can magically wave a wand and take guns out of the hands of bad guys, it just doesn't fit with recent experience.
So we've got to make our schools safer.
And I think we've got to have some common sense bipartisan solutions for how to do that.
There are reasonable things that we can do to make a difference.
It's not infringing on your second.
The idea to have some of these weapons out there, it just doesn't make any sense.
Kamala Harris, as an attorney general, worked on this issue.
She knows that it's there.
No one's trying to scaremonger and say we're taking your guns.
But I ask all of you out there, do you want your schools hardened to look like a fort?
Is that the problem?
Let's talk about the Muslims that are stabbing people in the streets because they can't get out of the countries around the world that their children aren't practicing these types of drills.
I appreciate what Tim said actually in Finland because I do think it illustrates some of English next time.
Frankly, weird differences between our own country's gun violence problem and Finland is, okay, first of all, we have way higher rates of mental health abuse or mental health substance abuse.
We have way higher rates of depression, way higher rates of anxiety.
We unfortunately have a mental health crisis in this country that I really do think that we need to get to the root causes of because I don't think it's the whole reason why we have such a bad gun violence problem.
But I do think it's a big piece of it.
Another driver of the gun violence epidemic, especially that affecting our kids, it doesn't earn as many headlines, but is the terrible gun violence problem in a lot of our big cities.
Isn't it from CIA for the bad guys out of the way and take gun offenders off the school?
I think there's a whole host of things that we can do here.
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But I do think that we've got to talk about more security.
When they buy the guns for you and they start grooming you and how to use the guns and all that kind of stuff, there's a shortage of more than 4 million homes in the United States, and that contributes to the high housing prices.
Governor Walls, the Harris campaign promises a $25,000 down payment assistance for first-time homebuyers and a $10,000 tax credit.
They also promise to build 3 million new homes.
Where are you building these homes and won't handing out that kind of money just drive up prices higher?
And I think those of you listening on this, the problem we've had is that we've got a lot of folks that see housing as another commodity.
It can be bought up, it can be shifted, it can be moved around.
Those are not folks living in those houses.
Those of you listening tonight, that house is a big deal.
I bought and owned one house in my life.
My mom still lives in the house where I was.
And when I think of a house, I'm thinking of Christmas services after Midnight Mass where you go with your family.
We need to make it more affordable.
And one of the things, as I said, this program that the vice president is pushing forward and bringing a new way of approaching this is something we're doing in Minnesota from that leap.
We in the state invested in making sure our housing was the biggest investment that we'd ever made in housing.
But we increasingly have a federal administration that makes it harder to develop our resources, makes it harder to build things, and wants to throw people in jail for not doing everything exactly as Tomali.
Well, of course, we're going to cover Americans with pre-existing conditions.
In fact, a lot of my family members have gotten health care.
I believe, you know, members of my family actually got private health insurance, at least for the first time, switched off of Medicaid onto private insurance for the first time under Donald Trump's leadership.
And I think that a lot of people have criticized this concepts of a plan remark.
It's very simple common sense.
I think it's Tim Wall's nose from 12 years in Congress.
You're not going to propose a 900-page bill standing on a debate stage.
It would bore everybody to tears, and it wouldn't actually mean anything because part of this is the give and take of bipartisan negotiation.
Now, when Donald Trump was actually president, and again, he has a record to be proud of, prescription drugs fell in 2018 for the first time in a very long time.
Under Kamala Harris's leadership, prescription drugs are up about 7 percent.
Under Donald Trump's entire four years, they were up about 1.5 percent.
He introduced pricing transparency.
You think about health care: you go into a hospital, you try to buy something, and nobody knows what it actually costs.
That price transparency will actually give American consumers a little bit more choice and will also drive down costs.
And we talked about the reinsurance regulations, is what I was talking about.
Look, Donald Trump has said that if we allow states to experiment a little bit on how to cover both the chronically ill but the non-chronically ill, it's not just a plan.
He actually implemented some of these regulations when he was president of the United States.
And I think you can make a really good argument that it salvaged Obamacare, which was doing disastrously until Donald Trump came along.
I think this is an important point about President Trump.
Of course, you don't have to agree with everything that President Trump has ever said or ever done, but when Obamacare was crushing under the weight of its own regulatory burden and health care costs, Donald Trump could have destroyed the program.
Instead, he worked in a bipartisan way to ensure that Americans had access to affordable care.
It's not perfect, of course, and there's so much more that we can do, but I think that Donald Trump has earned the right to put in place some better health care policies.
He's earned it because he did it successfully the first time.
All right, here's where being an old guy gives you some history.
I was there at the creation of the ACA, and the reason it was so important is I come from a major health care state, home of the Mayo Clinic, home to Medical Alley, 3M, Medtronic, all of those.
We understand health care.
It's why we're ranked first on affordability and accessibility and quality of health care.
And so, what I know is, under Kamala Harris, more people are covered than they have before.
And those of you listening, this is critical to you.
Now, Donald Trump all of a sudden wants to go back and remember this.
No, even watch the debates that go on in talking to the university.
They rip a new one.
And there's a lot of attacks, too.
We obviously don't want to go into personal attacks in like where we get people.
You don't want to go too far into people's lives.
But at least, like, you know, going in there and be like, Waltz, you know, clearly if you're going to run the country the way that you walk into a rally, you know what I mean?
In the world without a national paid leave program for new cities.
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I can't remember if it's still questions.
Governor Walls, you said that if you're not going to be able to do that, of course, the most important question was in the very beginning, which is Israel.
And if you happen to be a vice presidential candidate, then you make out the other one and do gay stuff and get rid of your SEDs with emergency medical kits.
We're going to be taking child tax money by penalizing companies for shipping jobs overseas and penalizing countries who employ slave laborers and then ship their products back into our country and undercut the wages of American workers.
President Trump is bashing someone for legally challenging and said there was no widespread fraud.
The governors of every state in the nation, Republicans and Democrats, certified the 2020 election results and sent a legal slate of electors to Congress for January 6th.
The people saw the FBI that called it that Lutheran said the last presidential election.
Well, Laura, first of all, I think we're going to still have a future.
We need to figure out how to solve the inflation crisis caused by Connell Harris's policies, make housing affordable, make groceries affordable, and that's what we're focused on.
I want to answer your question because you did ask it.
Look, what President Trump has said is that there were problems in 2020, and my own belief is that we should fight about those issues, debate those issues peacefully in the public square.
And that's all I've said, and that's what Jason Trump has said.
He said that on January the 6th, the protesters ought to protest peacefully.
If January 6th was left the White House, of course, unfortunately, we have all of the negative policies that have come from the Harris Biden administration.
I believe that we actually do have a threat to democracy in this country, but unfortunately, it's not the threat to democracy that Kamala Harris and Tim Wolf want to talk about.
It is the threat of censorship.
It's Americans casting aside lifelong friendships because of disagreements over politics.
It's big technology companies silencing their fellow citizens.
Censorship at an industrial scale.
She did it during COVID.
She's done it over censorship at an industrial scale.
She did it during COVID.
She's done it over a number of other issues.
And that to me is a than that protesters should peacefully protest on January the 6th.
Yeah, well, look, Tim, first of all, it's too rich for Democratic leaders to say Trump is a unique threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power on January the 20th, as we have done for 250 years in this country.
We're going to shake hands after this debate and after this election.
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It's not winning anybody's opinion of Tom Walsh as the next voice for the business.
We're cutting the debate because we're kind of just talking over it right now.
So we can kind of give our thoughts.
I actually do have some thoughts, even though we were kind of just mucking about while the debate was going on.
But Brianna, did you want to go first?
So, I mean, the first thing I want to say is that, you know, JD Vance actually did kind of start off very strong because, you know, one thing I hear about these debates is that it's all about moments.
It's not so much about who's actually right on stuff.
Because obviously, as we know, the moderators will always step in and then they'll say something.
They'll fact check you on something that's disprovably false on their end.
Like, you know, they'll kind of give out the, you know, the establishment's talking point on whatever.
So I actually did really love the part where JD Vance would not back down.
And, you know, I have my opinions on JD Vance.
I don't think he's the best selection.
I don't think a lot of us here believe that he's the best selection, but he did kind of hold firm when he was being interrupted.
So I actually did like that a lot.
Other than that, yeah, like, I mean, you know, I just want to say too, you know, I first got into politics.
I'm 34 right now.
I never voted.
Actually, I still to this day have actually never voted, fun fact.
But even in 2016, you know, I wasn't a Trump fan at the time when he was initially running, but then I came to be a fan of Trump.
And then he was what really got me into politics because he was very entertaining.
It was just, you know, he was a fun guy to watch.
But this is what politics is going to be like after Trump.
So, I mean, honestly, everyone who got into this space in the last eight years, be prepared to live through the rest of your waking hours with this being the discourse on politics and debates in general.
So it's kind of unfortunate.
It's going to be sad to see Trump leave, whether he loses this time or whether he wins this time and leaves in four years.
But this is what they want.
They don't want that overly masculine style of like people talking over each other and talking shit.
So I mentioned this earlier, but maybe people can hear us.
But this is their main attack vector, which is why they bring it up so much.
And, you know, like it's an unfortunate because I mean, even people who are the most pro-life, I mean, they know, and, you know, like maybe, I don't know if you agree with me on this, but I mean, it is a losing issue.
But I mean, you know, we believe that life starts at conception.
I mean, as a Christian, I believe that at least.
But, you know, it's always going to be a losing issue because, I mean, people have just been so, and I was talking about this, I think, with Elijah maybe two or three weeks ago.
But I mean, literally, I mean, like, it's just insane that every election cycle that one of the main points that we talk about is the legality of killing babies.
Like, it's just kind of, it's just such an absurd, like, idiocracy level of thing that we're like primarily occupying our time and conversation with.
But it's just, you know, it's just crazy that we've got to this point.
But anyway, let's go to the chat.
I want to see what the chat has to say in terms of what they think.
So I think that everyone in here thinks that Vance won for sure.
Yeah.
Just because, you know, by default.
Partisanship.
So I want to hear what people have to say in terms of, I mean, did you think that he blew him out?
Well, you know, while Elijah eats, we can talk about this.
But if you think that Tim Walz actually got his asshole blown out by Big Dick JD Vance, give me one in the chat.
If you think it's kind of so-so, give me two.
If you think that Tim Walz kind of hung in there a little bit, he kind of, you know, was able to roll the punches and give me a three.
I'm kind of just interested to see what people have to say.
But I was looking at Polymarket too.
And actually, the kind of the reaction from Polymarket, after the first question, JD Vance shot up a lot, but towards the end of the debate, it kind of just evened out to kind of just like so-and-so with both candidates.
So it's kind of interesting to see what personal opinion, how much it's weighted.
But I mean, you know, again, you know, this isn't like the debates of the past when Trump used to be.
So the creamy chicken parmesan is a little bit better than the rosemary chicken.
And the reason why I would say they probably added a little too many calories into the cream sauce, but it's got a good flavor and it's pretty delicious.
There is a little bit of lemon squeeze onto the broccoli, which I could say.
There could have been a little less citrus.
But then again, this was probably cooked by an underpaid black person who couldn't make it in a real restaurant.
Was that the show we were on with you where we were like where I was like, you think that I'm joking about wanting to open up a Holocaust amusement park, but the purpose of it is to show genocide and gore to kids younger than four since we only show it to them at four.
I want to start showing, my son is never too early.
He's not even two yet.
We've already started showing him death camps.
It's never too early to get them on the take him to the meeting.
It's like my wife's like, we have a Saturday together.
But I just want to say, we need to get this out to younger and younger people.
What I was thinking, though, too, is we may want to add watching this debate into a section of the Holocaust Museum since we're talking about tragedies and mass casualty events.
I feel like I don't even, I feel like I feel like people who died in Storm Helen are actually grateful because they didn't have to live to see this.
By the way, during that time, I was starting to think of a new invention and like a way that we could start projecting videos and stuff into the womb so we can start broadcasting atrocity gore videos into babies while they're developing.
I just was thinking if they could start like we could start the tour in the womb, someone said, yeah, start the tour in the womb.
If we can start the tour, it's like life is one giant Holocaust museum and the tour never ends.
That's how it feels, right?
It feels like we're being pranked.
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And I don't know, Brianna, but that's this is when I, by the way, this is.
As a courtesy to her, Brianna, what do you think about this?
No, my point is, I'm just, I don't have any more sick burns to rip into these people, but I'm just saying, like, you know, people went through the Holocaust had easy compared to what we just went through.
Margaret, the rules were that you guys were going to fact-check.
And since you're fact-checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on.
So there's an application called the CBP OneApp, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand.
That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card and waiting for 10 years.
But it's like, that's like, but like, meaning they demonize the founding of this country because this is the really unfortunate truth.
And I, and this is the problem with why Australia has become even gayer than the United States is because, no, it's because like more recently, Australia was set up as a white nationalist country.
It was founded by white nationalists to be a white nationalist haven.
It was in their policy, the white Australia policy.
So people talk, oh, Australia was racist.
Yeah, but it also was one of the best countries in the world, coincidentally, right?
You talk about Rhodesia as well that only allowed white leadership.
That was the number one exporter of grain, of beef, and it was the wealthiest economy and richest country.
South Africa, the same thing with apartheid.
They actually had running electricity, right?
So the problem is, is that when the West was being built, the West was built by their right, a bunch of racist white people.
That's 100% true, okay?
And I think that it's fair.
Like, I don't like how conservatives always like to dismiss the liberals' accusations.
So what they're doing to Vance is they're going, so you're just a racist white person.
AKA, you're somebody who's going to try to build the country.
But I don't think Vance is going to try to do anything.
Everyone who's in office currently is trying to maintain the status quo.
Nothing in that debate was somebody who wants to build, create something new.
And all they're trying to do is to type cast people as what?
The builders of the nations?
Because they're trying to do what?
Destroy the nations, not build them.
So one of the main reasons why they're demonizing racism and all of these things that made the country strong, homogenous, they demonize Christianity.
They demonize patriarchy.
They demonize the family structure.
All of these things that built the nation, they demonize intentionally.
So what is a family?
It's white privilege, right?
It's white privilege.
And what is whiteness?
It's racism.
What is racism?
Evil.
So everything comes back.
Everything that builds it strong is evil.
You don't even hear anybody fighting for what actually will make the country strong anymore because they don't want to say it.
Because if you say what will make the country strong, you will come across what?
Racist.
And men are too much of bitches today.
They care too much about being accepted and their stupid checks from their stupid media companies or whatever they care about to be honest and say, maybe we need to look back.
The people that founded the country, the people that have built policies that have made our country strong, the manifest destiny from Andrew Jackson on.
And, you know, Andrew Jackson was a very immoral guy.
He was having, people say he was having orgies in the White House.
I don't, I wasn't there.
You can ask Biden, apparently, we found out he was young, but he was there.
But these guys were crazy, right?
This was before they even had a fence around the area.
They just let the commoners in.
Andrew Jackson used to just let people in from the United States and have parties and just get them drunk on their own taxpayer dollars.
Like, that's crazy shit.
That's the Manifest Destiny people.
And now we're demonizing the people who had a vision for the country.
I'm going back and I'm reading what they wanted for the nation.
We are a smokescreen of that.
And quite frankly, if we're ever going to get back to what we need to do, we're going to have to be a little bit mean to people.
And again, we're going to have to tell some women no.
But since now we tell women, all women, you know, they can't be wrong ever.
There's some weird idea now in culture.
Even these women, like they have such a chip on their shoulder.
Like, look, Tim Waltz is a bitch.
And you look at him, you know, and he talked about how it's so great to take second fiddle to a woman.
But I mean, like, everyone needs to stop being a little bitch.
It's like, oh, what about being, you know, correct and about, you know, respectful?
No one respects these people.
No one respects our country.
What about having fucking respect for our nation?
What about people caring and looking at American culture going, holy shit, I want to live there?
That is a great nation.
We are a joke.
And we're being led by two little bitch boys who are on stage talking about nothing.
It's like, oh, well, he took command.
It's like, oh, dude, you dude doesn't know how to order donuts.
Like, I'm just saying, like, it's, and, you know, and by the way, I say that because, you know, public schools now in now in your books and most districts, you can't even show if you went hunting.
You can't show like a dead turkey or a dead animal in your yearbook if you want to have a senior page because it might offend people.
It's like, don't you even serve fucking beef burgers in the in the kitchens?
You can serve beef at school, but people are afraid to know how the meat comes to their table.
Like, to me, everyone's a pussy today.
We deserve what we get.
These are the people that were presented because they're a reflection of the populace.
Nobody's going to deport anybody.
The moment they put one little video up of a Mexican woman crying with her kid being separated, Republicans will shut it down too.
On abortion, Republicans are the same as Democrats.
On the economy, they're the same.
We're now both patriotic.
They're now saying Trump was the one who killed the bill for immigration.
The average person thinks they're the same on immigration.
We deserve this failure.
And that's what I was going to say today.
We deserve this because we're sending, what, eight and a half billion dollars to Israel and another several billion dollars to Ukraine while Biden's saying we have no more money or funds to send to North Carolina.
We deserve this shit.
And if anyone bought into that and believed that that was a real thing other than a spectacle, it was pathetic.
And I never found out what the brand of eyeliner he used.
Okay, maybe you disagree with me, but I just, my whole point is, is that all we talk about, to summarize that, is to demonize the people of the past because they actually built the country.
And I love that humor where the guys said they say racists built this nation.
Well, at least they were building it.
You know, maybe we should.
Maybe we should bring back some of that racism if it does something else.
The point is, this progressive communism that we have where everybody's ideas matter, everybody's involved in the voting system, it's not working.
It's not going to work and we're going to collapse.
And with the more immigrants that we're bringing in, this nation is not going to recover.
Like, you can't recover this.
That's my personal opinion because I've looked at history of any nation that has tried to manage this sort of open democracy.
It's failing in every Western country that it's post-World War II, liberal democracy is a failure.
And it cannot, whatever we created after World War II is not going to work.
That's my, that's what I believe.
I believe that Trump can slow it down, but I do not think there's any stopping this because I don't think the government is run by elected officials.
I think there's bureaucrats put in place that really do run our agencies, CIA, FBI, and there's nothing you can, Trump doesn't control them.
Well, also, you heard what Trump said recently, too, about people who are coming on, is it H-1B visas coming from countries that Republicans support that?
Yeah, he's in favor of now stapling green cards to diplomas, which is something that Charlie Kirk was being criticized, what, six, seven years ago by Nick Fuentes.
And now Trump has even adopted that platform.
And as Elijah pointed out multiple times tonight, I mean, you know, Trump is, Trump is now back to the most progressive platform that we've seen from a Republican candidate.
And, you know, back to the abortion thing.
I was thinking about this.
And, you know, because it's a losing issue, as we talked about earlier, I do feel like.
And especially with abortion, but I mean, I feel like we're just on an inevitable crash course to losing on every single thing because, you know, as a lot of people point out, what have conservatives actually conserve?
Nothing.
Because it's like, you know, we're always playing defense.
No, but the point is, is everybody's joking in the chat because I think what it is is that people have lost.
They've literally lost a semblance of hope.
Yeah.
And this is really disheartening for me to say this.
But to those that are not grifters riding Trump's dick, and I have been the most pro-Trump person and I'm not anti-Trump and I've never been on the Ron DeSantis train or anything like that.
It is, there is no hope in Vance and Trump.
It doesn't inspire any hope.
It just allows you to think that perhaps if Kamala gets in, then it means that there is 100% no elections in this country and that there is no checks and balances to the censorship regime that is going to skyrocket.
You know, it's going to become so intense, so difficult.
They'll eventually ban Rumble.
I've already said this too.
And they'll find a way through a monopoly to break up X or to force a sell or to cause some sort of a problem there with either like they'll come after him another way, like kind of like with SpaceX.
So like see SpaceX and make it a public, they'll do something like destroy him.
You'll see that happen now.
Now, Trump can slow that down.
But, you know, Trump plays the progressive card so strong.
And then the copers in the chat will say, dude, he's just undercover.
Dude, you know how many times during the last Trump's term, first term, that I had to listen to fucking Q-tards tell me, no, listen, you don't need to do anything.
The white hats are coming, brother.
The white hats are coming.
And it's like, okay, is this some sort of a kink?
Are we role playing here?
Like a suffering kink or like a trauma kink?
How old were you when you were molested that you accept this level of manipulation and disgusting usury where they come out and they're like, you believed in that?
Look, I didn't fall for Q.
I didn't fall for the vaccines.
I didn't fall for the Ukraine scam.
I didn't fall for the Israel-Gaza war.
I'm not falling for these things.
And the thing is, is with Trump, it's like, that's the same thing.
I'm not ever going to blindly support, you know, and you don't see me being stoked.
And everybody I talked to who was the biggest Trump supporters, the biggest fans, who campaigned, who even maybe someone in the Capitol, everything, all say the same thing is he's cucked now and he's not America first and he has too much investment in the liberal agenda.
He's even talking about his campaign is going to focus is about protecting women.
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Like that's, that's like such a lame even, that's a Trump?
Also, isn't it interesting too that during all the rallies, Trump used to always recite that one poem that's like about like it's like about like a scorpion riding a frog's back over like a river or something.
And then when a scorpion gets like gets like safely over to the other side, he stings a frog and the frog is like, hey, what the fuck?
Like, why'd you just sting me?
And then, and then the scorpion says, and like, you know, I could be in the species wrong, but he says, you knew who I was when you took me in.
And that's kind of interesting because it kind of feels like Trump was a scorpion this whole time because it's like, you know, we knew who he was before.
He was kind of like a shyster a little bit before.
He was like a New York businessman.
And now he's kind of just like seemingly selling out for a check.
And I hope not because, you know, in 2016, he had the right intuitions.
I think he's just listening to a lot of the wrong people.
And he's kind of got, he's kind of let his ego get the best of him now.
It's like, it's like, I want to get back to the, like, like someone wrote in the chat, they're like, my uncle believes in flat earth, Bigfoot, that we didn't go to the moon and Q, but the JQ is a bridge too far for him or whatever.
Like, it's like boomers will like Boomer will believe the TV is honest, but won't have an honest conversation about, you know, the money and politics and what's going on.
And I'm not going to go deep into that or talk about that, but I, but I, I, I, I genuinely, genuinely am concerned because I, the people that I know that have been on the money, like all my friends that have been on the money, they didn't fall for any of the scams and they've been bold and blatant about all of the right topics.
It's scary to me now that like Ben Shapiro is pro-Trump.
Like that's when that, when I, whenever Ben Shapiro gets behind something, I'm afraid for our side.
I mean, but, and like, I guess that, you know, last election cycle, that was their highest like voting demographic.
But, you know, one thing I was going to say, too, is that, you know, coming from, coming from Chicago, and, you know, I'm half Hispanic myself, as many people may know.
I grew up in the urban community and whatnot.
But like, you know, once I first became a Trump supporter, I felt like I was like the outsider.
I felt like I was like doing something interesting because not a lot of people who look like me or like who came from the same area that I did was a Trump supporter.
But now it's like we're seeing all these like, you know, Amber Rose, Lil Pump, all these like obscure rappers from like New York and stuff who are supporting Trump.
And it's like, this actually kind of makes me not like Trump now.
Like it's like I want like I wanted to actually I want to actually fit in with the white man and what the white man built.
And now it's become the party of Lil Pump.
Like what's going on?
Like it's just like, you know, like I was like, dude, I got a picture with Lil Pump.
And I look, and this is a personal statement here.
I won't go into details, so I'm going to get sappy here.
But there was a point in my life where I finally made it.
I finally made it financially, started making really good money, had access to a lot of good opportunities and stuff, but I lost myself and I was really depressed, right?
So I had all the money I could think of, whatever's going on, and I was very unhappy.
And I think when you go through a personal moment like that, where you realize like getting everything the world promises you, but losing your soul, it doesn't mean anything to have it anymore, right?
So it's like if you gain the whole world but lose your soul, then the world means nothing to you because you've lost purpose.
And so on a bigger scale, I feel like that's what's happening.
And then you end up self-destructing and burning yourself.
That's usually what people, that's why celebrities often, you know, kill themselves or they burn out, they get into drugs because you get everything that you wanted.
And I grew up poor.
So I didn't need a lot.
It's just like, I was like, well, I impressed myself.
Then I lost myself.
And so then you arrive without who you are, then you're nowhere.
And that's how it feels with Trump.
Even if we get into office, we're getting somewhere with no identity, no collective value, no standards, and we're just there.
It's like, oh, so we won.
But like nobody who's conservative is going to really get any spot of power because he's already disavowed 2025.
Once he told us that he was getting ready to build an FBI headquarters, I was pretty much, I mean, I'm still like, oh, yeah, that's what you were saying, the FBI headquarters.
Not to mention that the FBI headquarters is like the most, and like, by the way, like, I actually kind of like some brutalist architecture.
Like, I like modern stuff, but the FBI headquarters is like the most soulless building.
And I guess that's only fitting that it belongs to the FBI, but it's just like these like long windows.
It's just concrete.
There's like no character to it.
There's no like semblance of like a former culture that like actually built it.
It's just like cement and then windows.
That's pretty much it.
So it's just, yeah, like, and like, I actually completely forgot about that.
And even before a lot of these things that Trump had come out with recently, I was saying the exact same thing that Elijah was saying is that, you know, like, what's he going to do once he gets back into power if he gets elected?
He's going to move the embassy.
He's going to do a lot of these things for these big money donors.
He's not going to do anything for the people that he was so fervently sticking up for in 2016.
Somebody said that their friend bought a wellness kit and got rid of their STDs, which that's not the first time I've heard that.
I don't even think that's a joke.
Honestly, by the way, listen to this, though.
But I'm not even joking.
So they originally got mad at me.
No, listen, they originally got mad at me because it says on there that it, because obviously all this stuff is what they give you to treat chlamydia and all this stuff.
But yeah, you know, if you guys are black pilled, I just want to say that you guys have every right to be because it's going to get worse and you can't even imagine how bad things really even are.
So, but we have a final thought and then we're going to end on this note.
