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June 1, 2018 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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People in "Mexico" Discuss USA Border

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elijah schaffer
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elijah schaffer
Alright, what's up?
This is Elijah out here with episode five, collaboration, slightly offensive, with Fleka's talks.
And we're out here in Ensenada and Mexico, and we're just here to see what people have to think about immigration and what Trump's doing on the south border.
Taco Bell Water, authentic Mexican food, refreshing.
What's your name, man?
unidentified
Yabali.
elijah schaffer
Ibali, we're here to talk and ask people what they think about Trump's building the southern border wall.
Is it a good idea or a bad idea?
unidentified
I think it's a bad idea.
Honestly, I didn't know that much on the wall, but I guess it's pretty bad.
elijah schaffer
Last Mexican president actually expelled over 150,000 people out of his country.
So if Mexico believes that it's right to expel people out of their country and protect their borders, why do we not have the right to do the same with our southern partner?
unidentified
Well, it's kind of hard to explain how, but they just don't want—they don't—they don't like the idea of the one he made.
elijah schaffer
What alternatives could we do to protect our borders at a cheaper cost?
unidentified
I honestly don't know.
Maybe, like, how, like, you know how people clean up the streets for, like, community service?
elijah schaffer
Like Caltrans?
unidentified
Yeah, and like maybe we could do a community service where you like patrol the borders or something, add more people, and like you get.
elijah schaffer
It's like you get a DUI, you have to go patrol the borders for like a couple days?
unidentified
Yeah.
No, but I kind of like the war, I guess.
elijah schaffer
But like internally conflicted between liking it and hating it?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, something like that.
I believe it's a bad idea.
elijah schaffer
Could you explain why you believe it's a bad idea?
unidentified
Because everyone should be treated the same.
I don't think people from Mexico should be borderline.
I think they should be part of our country.
elijah schaffer
We do, look, but this is a good interview because I got the Taco Bell Cup and you got the hot dog bun.
So, alright, so we're out here and we're just trying to ask people their opinion on what they think about Donald Trump putting billions of dollars and trying to erect a large border wall on the southern border with the United States and Mexico.
unidentified
Well, it's a stupid idea, plain and simple.
elijah schaffer
So what would be the benefits of not having a border?
unidentified
Just destroy it, let them pass, probably.
elijah schaffer
Okay, and what would be the negative sides of having a border?
unidentified
Carl, this is a hard part.
elijah schaffer
What'd you say?
unidentified
It's a hard part, a hard question.
elijah schaffer
So which parts of it do you like?
unidentified
I like that it's a little bit more protected from, like, it protects us from, like...
elijah schaffer
It's kind of like a southern condom.
Alright, so we're live.
What's your name, man?
unidentified
Joswe.
elijah schaffer
Josue, we're just here asking people their opinion on what they think about Trump's immigration policies on the south border with building a border wall and increased ICE enforcement in California.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
I have like some skin in this because I have a lot of family members in France that are undocumented immigrants as well.
I mean my family, they came here undocumented and because of Reagan, you know, they had the amnesty and there it is.
So I think I'm against building the wall and militarizing the border more.
I think we should just be more open and also just that we should at least be more friendly.
I mean yeah I know we should have security, but I think militarizing the border is the wrong way to go.
elijah schaffer
So we were just out here, we were told that we were professionals.
We got my friend over here and he's saying that we can't shoot here because we're professionals.
That's pretty good because I have a Taco Bell Cup and a wooden spoon and a microphone and this is what counts for professional in Los Angeles these days.
That's pretty good stuff I gotta say.
Do you think like kind of the United States and Mexico should fuse into one nation?
unidentified
Yes.
So we can all be one because everyone is woning on me.
elijah schaffer
What about Canada?
unidentified
Canada?
I think everything should be the same.
If it goes for Mexico like what I said it should go for Canada too.
elijah schaffer
So then if we're going to Mexico and we go to Central America like Honduras and those kind of countries, El Salvador, Guatemala, should we possibly keep the border going and like kind of fuse through Central America all the way maybe in the south?
unidentified
Yes.
I don't think it'll do much.
Like most immigrants come in by plane.
elijah schaffer
I have not heard that.
unidentified
Haven't you?
elijah schaffer
Not illegal immigrants.
What do you think, like, other than a border wall, maybe we could, like, line people up on the border to tell people to go back?
Or what do you think we could do there?
You know what I mean?
Like, kind of like shouting, like, hey, you know, go back.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
elijah schaffer
So, what do you think, though?
What do you think makes it a really bad idea to protect our border with a large wall?
Like, why is that one a bad idea, particularly, other than jobs?
unidentified
Well, it really doesn't protect anything.
I mean, now that you have all these superhero movies, that should really explain, you know, the ultimate defense.
There is no such thing.
Yeah, I just wish they can blow up the border.
I just wish people can come in.
elijah schaffer
Want to blow it up?
What kind of explosives would we use to blow up the border wall?
unidentified
Look, like hammer or C4 or something.
elijah schaffer
Like explosive hammers?
unidentified
Yeah, explosive hammers.
elijah schaffer
Okay, that's pretty good.
And other than explosive hammers and those kinds of things, where do you think we could get the explosive hammers?
unidentified
We're going to ask the military guys if they can understand what does.
They want to have a new lie.
They want to make new friends, new family, new jobs, new cars.
elijah schaffer
We're like the underground media, like the future of the media.
unidentified
I understand, but.
elijah schaffer
We don't exist yet, but we will.
Okay, but why does it make you feel bad inside?
unidentified
I don't know, man.
This is like my people and stuff like that.
elijah schaffer
Are you an American citizen?
unidentified
Yeah, I was born here.
elijah schaffer
So how are Mexican people, your people?
unidentified
It's like my family, like, I have family over there too in Mexico, so it's like...
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I have family in other countries, but I consider Americans to be more my people.
unidentified
More what?
elijah schaffer
Like Americans, like you're my people.
unidentified
Alright.
Will they come in on a visa, like legally, and then they overstay their visa and start becoming illegal immigrants?
elijah schaffer
We actually had, like, I think last year we had over a million border crossings, illegal border crossings, like a million people illegally crossed the border last year.
But we're cool out here on the bricks.
We can just talk to people, because you know, I mean, I don't know what you think is professional, but this is an old wooden spoon and an iPod cable from an iPhone 4.
I don't think it's very professional.
So if you know that the Constitution actually outlines that the president's job is to secure our borders and to secure the sovereignty of our country, so by doing that, he's actually just doing his job.
Do you think that he's doing the right thing by following the Constitution or the wrong thing in that place?
unidentified
I mean, I feel he's doing the wrong thing because many presidents before him haven't done what he's trying to do now.
elijah schaffer
Like, did you know that President Obama deported more Hispanics to Mexico than any president before him?
unidentified
No, I did not know that.
elijah schaffer
And did you know that President Obama also deployed and militarized the southern border with National Guard before Trump ever did that?
unidentified
No, I did not know that.
But it's pretty crazy how that happened and everything like that.
elijah schaffer
I wish we were doing professional shooting because then we'd be successful, but we're not.
unidentified
So like I said, you guys are good at people on here.
All right.
elijah schaffer
All right, perfect.
Thank you.
So what do you like about the southern border wall?
unidentified
No, I don't know.
It's the drugs.
It stops them.
Less bad stuff to like.
elijah schaffer
No drogas.
We are good.
That's awesome.
We do have a wooden spoon, though, so I don't know what to say.
But I'm glad.
unidentified
Cool.
elijah schaffer
We got a lot of security.
unidentified
And Obama was the president to, he deported the most out of any president.
And I think that's something people don't know about and people need to know about.
It's not really just Democrat and Republican.
It's that everyone's doing that, you know?
And I think just it's a little saddening that the deportation has to happen, but I also know that it has to happen sometimes for especially for like the gang members, you know, or for the people who are the rapists and the murderers.
elijah schaffer
And then Donald Trump just said recently on the news about MSN13 members being animals and needing to be deported.
Do you agree with those statements?
unidentified
That's hard, because initially you want to say yes, right?
Initially you want to say yes and like, oh yeah, of course we don't want those people in our country, right?
But also, the thing about it is when they send, when the gang members are deported, right, and they go back to the country, El Salvador or Mexico or any or Guatemala, right, they bring more gang violence, more gang violence to those countries as well.
elijah schaffer
So do you think it's better to have gang violence there or in our country?
unidentified
I don't think either, really.
But if you had to choose, oh man, that's a hard choice because you don't want gang violence at all.
elijah schaffer
We gotta choose.
They're either here or there.
unidentified
I don't think I could make that choice.
I just feel like we all should be one.
elijah schaffer
How do you suppose that we'd be one?
unidentified
That instead of having people hate towards other people and Trump and stuff like that.
elijah schaffer
The security said we could film in the public square.
unidentified
No, no, no.
Yeah, they told us they don't want us to film it on this private property.
elijah schaffer
So not the public squares is not private property.
They said the security did?
unidentified
No, not.
elijah schaffer
We can go talk to them.
Yeah, yeah.
Can we go?
Because they told us they don't want you filming the crops.
Okay, because they just told us that the only place we can't go, security, was in the gazebo.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
So where can they film?
I thought you said like right here.
So now we can't film at all?
No, no, but you guys originally told me the square here, just not in the gazebo, and two people just walked by and told me I just can't film in there.
They said right here.
unidentified
Now they're telling you they don't want you to film.
elijah schaffer
This is private property though.
Okay, cool.
So now it's changing?
unidentified
All right.
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