Do you think transsexualism and being transgender, which some people even say are different, do you think it's a mental disorder or do you think that it's a normal way of life?
And I know that in the DSM-5, again, these are comments not to offend you or to say anything.
I'm just stating facts.
We're journalists.
In the DSM-5, transgenderism is categorized as gender dysphoria or gender identity disorder.
And it's categorized as a mental illness.
Now, you as a trans woman, would you identify as a trans woman?
Is that true or as a trans man?
Okay, as a trans woman, would you identify that the DSM-5 is accurate in its identifying transsexualism as a mental disorder or something different?
You would be the perfect person to explain your view, your take, where you think people are wrong, where you think they're right.
unidentified
Because like one, for one thing, mental disorder means that there's something wrong.
and there's really there's nothing wrong with me except that i was i was born with male chromosomes instead of female chromosomes so i don't boy that's a really good question What kind of facts support your ideas?
Okay, so currently in science, there is no specifics or any studies that show there's anything different than a male or a female in serious science.
But in political agendas, people say that there are a spectrum, sometimes 40 plus different genders.
So because the science doesn't prove there are more than two, but the bathrooms say all, that insinuates that there's more than two.
Do you think that that's scary that a medical provider that should be basing its policy on science is now labeling bathrooms based off of political policy rather than science itself?
unidentified
It's pretty weird.
Yeah, yeah.
Look, I don't really have an answer for you, but I think it's pretty up.
We need a lot of help.
Transgender people need help, and we need help as we trans, you know, as we as we go into transition.
So we do need mental health care services.
So if it was not to be classified as a mental health situation, I think some people would not get the help that they need.
I know for me, my insurance wouldn't cover it if it wasn't a situation that was classified as a medical situation.
So, suicide rates and self-inflicted violence are very high in the transgender community.
I'm sure you're familiar with that.
And maybe you yourself or you know people who have dealt with depression or different things because of rejection or other different factors.
So, being the fact that the self-inflicted harm rate is so high inside transgender communities, why do you think that's the case?
unidentified
Well, it's according to my gender specialist at UCLA, Dr. Weimer, Amy Wimer, who's awesome, by the way.
They have a whole department devoted to gender identity and help.
So, anyway, according to her, under 30-year-olds, the suicide rate is not any higher than in the general population.
So, it really seems to be obvious that what it's about is societal norms and how people feel about themselves in relation to what is expected of them as a human being.
So, parents today are giving children puberty blockers under the age of 12 to help them form into the gender they identify with.
Now, I don't know you, but when I was younger, I had a lot of weird things I was into as a kid that I've grown out of.
A lot of interesting things that I was a part of that I no longer identify with.
Do you think it's institutional child abuse to be giving children under the age of 18 permanent blockers for their hormones to change their gender before they even can technically legally vote or join the military?
You know, I'm all about people doing whatever they want as long as they're not having sex with me and whipping out a penis when I'm expecting a vagina.
So as long as that's not happening, you know, you do your thing.
You know, hypothetically, I might have to have sex with that.
With all the fallback that comes from being transgender and all the problems you receive, it's not so much a mental issue as it is just an issue in society, I think.
In some regards, in some situations, that holds some truth.
Sure.
So you're saying then that the consciousness of gender can be altered?
Because I know that there are some tests, epigenetic testings between twins showing the different environmental factors can absolutely change the expression of certain genes and that's widely accepted across biological studies.
However, in this case specifically with the entire, oh my gosh, these people are running.
Oh, hey, watch out.
Sorry, you guys are crazy.
According to actual genetic studies, you can't change your 23rd chromosome.
So what would you say about your claim about consciousness changing your DNA versus current studies that say you can't really do that consciously?
Okay, so science states that the gender of who we are is based off of the makeup of our chromosome, our 23rd chromosome, whether we have an XX, which would signify we are female, or an XY, which would signify as we are a man.
So how does one person then identify separately from their chromosomes?
No, so not like Kleinfelters or dualistic anatomy, but meaning, so if I'm a man, I'm born with an XY chromosome in my sex chromosome, and I'm anatomically and physically and genetically a man.
It kind of like, like, their counseling helped lead you in that direction.
unidentified
Their counseling allowed me to be comfortable with who I was and then find out who I was.
They never told me what I was.
They never knew.
And if I told them, like at last year, I thought I was gender fluid because I couldn't accept the fact that I could possibly have to be a woman 24 hours a day.
I didn't know how is it going to change at this point in my life?
So basically, these arguments have gotten me just, I'm fallen.
I can't handle it.
The guy literally just said that facts don't matter in the regards to his feelings.
People here are freaking crazy, and I'm concerned in general of where the state of our country is because there are flags all around us, but people just don't seem to understand the truth.
So I'm just taking a breather trying to understand where the hell do I live and what do people think that are here?
Alright, so would any of you guys ever, would you ever sleep with a transgender person, like a guy who was once a guy who cut off his penis and had it inverted to make an artificial vagina?
Yeah, so basically, so boys don't have deep voices.
Girls don't develop their breasts.
Boys' genitals don't develop because they want to get transsexual surgery to reassign their gender.
So do you think that that's child abuse?
A lot of pediatricians are collating, saying that allowing children to make permanent changes to the actual form of who they are would be considered child abuse.
Do you believe that?
unidentified
Honestly, yeah.
Yeah, I do.
I think that, like, you know, the kids don't really have a choice in that.
The adults are really just enforcing that on them.
And yeah, I think that's, yeah, it's formal child abuse.
They should be able to live the lives that they want to live.
Well, it doesn't really matter because in this case, when we look at genderism, when you look at a person proven, so genetically, we would prove that a male is biologically a male.
So the proof, the evidence would prove they're a male.
There's no way to prove that they're a female, but they identify as female.
So do we go by what people say or by the evidence?
unidentified
I mean, that's hard because I, again, it comes down to the context because I, I.
So why can't we identify them as a woman when biologically it says they're not, but then we put them in prison when biologically it says that they are also a criminal, but they identify as not?
Okay, so did you know on our 23rd chromosome, it's actually our XRY or XX, which determine our sex.
And basically in every human being, we have a component inside of us that determines whether we're male or female.
And there's actually no genetic alternative that tells us whether we're anything different.
Although there are some anomalies, like Kleinfelter syndrome, which you could be intersex, it's a rare genetic anomaly.
Being the fact that our sex actually determines who we are, do you think it's possible then for someone to be male or born female and then turn into the opposite gender?
Right, but here's my question then, because DNA technology is pretty sophisticated, but also very simple in the fact that when we read someone's DNA track upon a gel, we can see who they are based off of a profile called skewed polymorphisms.
Now, in that sort of track, we can understand not only who a person is based off of special identity markers within their genetic code, but we can also even do further genetic testing to see what their gender is.
So since their DNA, let's say, could be used, for instance, to show that they're a male, but they can go against their DNA to show that they are a female, if their DNA show that they are a criminal, but in their mind they go against that and say they're free, that's awesome.
That's great.
What do you think the difference is between those situations?
I mean, really, logically, is there a difference?
Not socially, not legally, but logically, because I'm more about rationalism.
Is there a difference?
unidentified
I mean, I think that's what makes us human is that we have to make those decisions.
Right, so my question is: so, let's say you bring home what you think is a woman, and you have a few drinks at a bar, and all of a sudden you start undressing them, and then you notice, wait a second, this is not an original woman.
Like, if they created artificial vaginas that were better than like human vaginas, I might is that possible?
I don't know, you know, but I doubt it.
I do too, but hey, science is advancing, you know.
Maybe there's like a J curve, and all of a sudden there just hits this thing with artificial vaginas that make them better than actual vaginas, you know?
So you're saying that your environment and your consciousness can change that 23rd chromosome.
Right, you can't change yourself from being an XY to an XX or an XX to an XY.
You can change some expression of genes.
So basically, there are these abilities, I'm not gonna get into it, where you can turn on the expression or off the expression of certain genes with epigenetic factors, but you can't actually change the substance of the code in the DNA due to epigenetic factors.
It's just a matter of start or end release type factors here that can cause these things.
unidentified
Okay, so my question then to you is: in those cases where you have transgender or has it been observed that the 23rd chromosome is a different expression than what the physiology is?
Is it the people who don't understand you or is it you, according to your opinion?
unidentified
No, I think that this is a hard thing.
I think that we as a society, Western civilization, we are just inventing terms for this stuff because we've never dealt with it.
I mean, if you go to Indonesia or some other societies and cultures that are not Western, this is like normal.
Even Native American culture, it's not something that they have a problem with, or it's, but we, and I had such a problem with it myself that I did, I was in such denial that I didn't know it was going on.
It was like, as I said, stuffed down deep into my subconscious.
It took a lot of years, a lot of years to get to where I am now to figure out exactly what was going on.
And it's not a decision I would want to do.
You know, I don't want to look like a freak.
I got huge man hands.
I got huge man feet.
I got broad shoulders.
You know, I still got a beard.
It's taking forever to get rid of.
This is not something that I would do because, you know, for fun, and it's not something I would do because on a lark.
It's not something I would do that it was like, oh, this is just a fanciful idea I have.
People would say, people, some people say it's like a fetish.
unidentified
I had to like look at that.
Was a lot of the guilt and shame was around that because I would do this at night.
I do it in secret.
And I thought it was a fetish.
And I've beat myself up relentlessly for that.
And part of this, like living as a woman full-time now and also setting up feminization surgery is that no, I'm not embarrassed about who I am anymore.
So, if the artificial vaginas are good enough, we should probably yeah, as long as artificial vaginas work, I mean, you know, it's that's awesome, dude.
But you just said that if that the chromosomes make them a man, so if chromosomal they're a man, even if you're having sex with an artificial vagina, it's still a man.
unidentified
Okay, I really don't appreciate how you're using logic and reason against me.
You know, I am a social justice warrior, and I do not appreciate having my own logic and justice thrown against me, okay?
