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May 29, 2018 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Do Celebrities have Free Speech?

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elijah schaffer
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elijah schaffer
All right, we're back with Slightly Offensive out here in Glendale, California, talking to people about their response to Roseanne Barr's racist tweets against Valerie Jarrett.
If y'all don't know, she said that Valerie Jarrett looked like a cross between the offspring of Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes.
Let's see what people in LA have to say about this statement.
All right, so I'm out here.
What's your name, man?
unidentified
Yay.
elijah schaffer
Yay, alright, yay.
We're out here in Glendale, California.
Did you hear a little bit about what happened today with the Roseanne Barr show?
unidentified
Yes, I did, and I'm very happy about it.
So, Roseanne said that about that lady?
elijah schaffer
Yes.
But on her own private Twitter.
unidentified
Oh.
Well, I mean, everybody has the right to say whatever they feel on their own personal Twitter.
I mean, I could see how people could take that the wrong way, but I mean, we all say s ⁇ on there, you know, on Twitter and stuff like that.
That's our own personal thing.
So I don't think it should have been canceled just for it was canceled because of that.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, the president just said that it does not line up with our values as a network, and it is canceled effectively immediately.
unidentified
I think that the executive producer, director, or whomever was responsible for funding of the Roseanne Barr show did the right thing.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so then my question is here.
So Roseanne Barr is a comedian.
How far do we have free speech as a comedian to make things that are often funny?
Because I know that a lot of black comedians use the N-word.
Comedians like Dave Chappelle make fun of white people a lot.
So for someone to come in and make fun of someone of color, especially being that they're not a politician, she's a comedian.
How far should we restrict the rights of comedians considering Chelsea Handler?
Are you familiar with her?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm familiar with Chelsea Handler.
elijah schaffer
She said that we should be allowed to kind of make fun of all people if everyone's on the table.
So how far is too far for a comedian to make jokes when their job is to make people laugh and be controversial?
unidentified
Yeah, I think it just has to do with like the size of the platform and stuff.
And so that's what's great about things like HBO and Netflix where like we kind of go to look for that kind of like, you know, crazy behavior.
But Roseanne, unfortunately, is on ABC, a nationally, you know, televised network.
And so, you know, there's with great power comes great responsibility.
elijah schaffer
So there's a difference between being on ABC and HBO?
unidentified
Definitely.
elijah schaffer
Because Bill Maher used the N-word on HBO.
unidentified
unfortunately totally different HBO is HBO Well, HBO, you have to pay to get HBO.
HBO's part of its branding is to be pro-vocal.
elijah schaffer
So as long as you're paying for racism, it's okay, kind of.
unidentified
As long as you are going somewhere where the brand is provocation.
Yeah, I saw it, and I didn't know.
I thought that was really not the brightest opinion on her part.
Like, she should know better than to say terrible things like that.
Like, that was just uncalled for, in my opinion.
elijah schaffer
Did you hear anything about that?
unidentified
I have not, actually, really?
Wow, I did not know that she released a tweet like that.
Do you know what the I have no idea what this tweet was, but that's pretty shocking that they went ahead and I understand why they would go ahead and cancel it.
elijah schaffer
You would understand why they canceled it even though you don't even know what it said?
unidentified
Yeah, like, do you know what this tweet was?
elijah schaffer
I do.
unidentified
What is it?
elijah schaffer
Would it change your mind if it was less racist or more racist?
unidentified
It's still racist at the end of the day.
It's more, I don't know.
elijah schaffer
ABC has a liberal-leaning show, Jimmy Kimmel.
Are you familiar with that?
They actually, on his show, he actually even makes fun of women.
He's made fun of Melania Trump for being an immigrant, made fun of her accent, as well as the way she talks in general, and also called her a prostitute.
Yet his show's currently being aired.
He also has a regular guest named Sarah Silverman, who's actually done sketches in complete blackface, as well as calling Asians chinks.
So my question to you.
unidentified
Because she's a woman, you know, and he just does not like women, right?
So.
It could be that it was just Roseanne and he didn't like her and he was just trying to, I don't know, being Trump, you know?
So it could be that he thinks it's okay for a man to do that, but not a woman.
Who knows?
elijah schaffer
Why would you say that?
unidentified
Because that's how Trump is.
Like, I don't really honestly follow too much of it, but what did Trump have to do with this?
Like, because he pretty much he's like the one that really wanted to cancel it, right?
elijah schaffer
No, Donald Trump, it was the president of ABC.
unidentified
Oh.
Okay.
So all lost there.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, the show was pro-Donald Trump.
unidentified
I don't know then.
I think he's just trying to make a stand.
elijah schaffer
Okay, did you hear today it was canceled?
unidentified
Yes.
elijah schaffer
Okay, do you know why it was canceled?
unidentified
Because she's racist.
elijah schaffer
Okay, do you know what she said that was racist?
unidentified
She posted a tweet and then deleted it, but everybody has screenshots.
I don't know what she actually said, but I heard it was not great.
Why cancel the show?
Why cancel?
It was her, not the whole team.
So I don't understand that.
Right.
elijah schaffer
That makes a lot of sense because, you know, it's just so racist that how could you have something so extremely racist be racist on a show when you're a star of the show, right?
unidentified
Well, say something so racist, being the star of the show, and you know, can't really replace her as like the main, as being Roseanne for so many years.
elijah schaffer
So why do you feel like maybe that the racist comment is so heavy-handed and why she got fired for it?
unidentified
It's just, it's inappropriate, and it's terrible, huh?
Well, I have no idea what it said, but we do know it's bad.
I'm assuming so.
If it is racist, it's just, you know, it is very inappropriate.
elijah schaffer
Okay, and what are your opinions on her getting fired for posting what the network deemed a racist tweet?
unidentified
I think that we live in this world where we have a freedom of speech, and every time we speak, we get attacked or we get criticized if we say something bad about races or other people.
And I think that it's just an opinion, but I think it's wrong because we just now we're getting, we can't say anything because we're afraid because we're going to get fired or we're going to get put away.
It's just wrong.
elijah schaffer
Do you think maybe that Roseanne felt charged or somehow energized in making that statement because the show is pro-Trump?
So do you think that maybe Trump's rhetoric and the way that he is out in society might have energized her or promoted her to say something like this openly on a public forum?
unidentified
Unfortunately, Trump has, I would say, not only given people the motivation or the courage to say some things that they may not have said had he not been in office, I think he has certainly promoted it.
He has not only ignited folks to be able to say some of the things that would have been taboo, but he is encouraging it in not only a subliminal way, but in a very forward way.
elijah schaffer
So on the familiarity that her viewers actually don't really care probably much about what she said, wouldn't that mean that the show should technically still stay on the air?
unidentified
Okay, fair point.
Yeah, kind of copy there, I guess, by my own logic.
Then, yeah.
But yeah, just kind of caught me there in a little while.
I think they're making a huge deal out of something that we have way bigger things going on in America right now than to be worrying about Twitter.
Honestly, Twitter needs to calm down.
It's just one tweet.
And of course, it was mean and rude and like disrespectful, but to make a huge deal out of it, and I saw it on the morning news and like all the news channels were talking about this tweet.
And there's like way worse things going on in other countries and in our country alone.
It's just a simple tweet, even though it was offensive.
It's just a tweet that.
elijah schaffer
The show is called slightly offensive.
unidentified
Like life's slightly offensive.
We're in a generation where everybody is like easily hurt over things where it's like we can't be like that.
We got to like handle things and like worry about bigger problems honestly than tweets.
We're a country of division.
It wasn't done by Donald Trump.
I'm not for him and I'm not against him.
But I've seen he's done a lot more than what the previous presidents, my opinion.
But still, instead of handling with compassion and understanding, it's done always separation and I mean it was just done wrong.
Period.
elijah schaffer
Do you ever feel like racist is just a word that people could just change and just call something racist without even giving the context of what it is?
And then people could become like a mob and just start firing people, tearing people down without even judging the measure of why someone said something?
unidentified
That was actually a very good question.
The main thing is that I feel the word racist has changed a lot.
A lot of people don't understand what the word is.
doesn't mean um so like racism is pretty much having like pull up on google I can't properly go ahead and give you the definition, but.
elijah schaffer
We do know the tweet was racist.
unidentified
Do you know what it said?
elijah schaffer
I do.
unidentified
Can I know what it said?
elijah schaffer
Yes.
unidentified
Oh, no, I know.
elijah schaffer
I'm just saying that, like, to me, using the N-word as a white person is kind of racist.
unidentified
You know, I think, you know, as a person who loves hip-hop, I think that, you know, context is everything.
elijah schaffer
What about recently with Kendrick Lamar, you know, or different people that have been on, had white fans or whatever come on stage and actually use the N-word and then get mad at them for what they're doing.
What do you think about that?
unidentified
Perfect example.
I think Kendrick, very much like Roseanne, creates a content that he's hoping to get to the broadest audience and stuff.
And from what I could tell, the young lady that joined him on stage was obviously a fan.
It didn't mean anything wrong about it.
So I think that, you know, Americans all over the world are able to kind of dissect context if we're willing to, you know, do the hard work of thinking for ourselves.
elijah schaffer
Right.
And that is pretty hard work, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Had Hillary Clinton been president, you think this would have happened?
unidentified
Had Hillary been president, I think that there certainly would have been a lot more unity.
I certainly don't find that the Clintons, and I'm not speaking from a Democratic viewpoint versus a Republican viewpoint.
I think that what we see in Donald Trump is what we see in that person.
What we would see in Hillary Clinton as a person would never embrace this type of divisiveness.
elijah schaffer
On a scale of one to Reverend L. Sharpton, how race-baiting was that comment?
unidentified
It was pretty high up there.
elijah schaffer
Close to Reverend L. Sharpton?
unidentified
Pretty close.
elijah schaffer
Like Jesse Jackson.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Do you have any suggestions of things they could have done better in place of just canceling the show?
unidentified
Yeah, like I said earlier, I think they should have talked to her individually and reprimanded her and or either suspend her for one day or whatever the case is.
But, you know, it wasn't done.
And typical.
elijah schaffer
And remember, Charlie Sheen got fired for a similar inappropriate behavior, but he actually attacked the cast on a regular basis and the producers of his own show.
And it took many different instances for him to actually even get fired after knowingly living a promiscuous lifestyle and admitting to using illegal drugs.
This is not anything illegal she did.
It's just not tasteful in the opinion of the network.
unidentified
Bingo.
And you made a point there.
Again, she's a woman.
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