Daniel Liszt and Olivia dissect the "X" file conspiracy, linking Eisenhower's 1953 Gettysburg time capsule to Nixon's alleged 1972 White House ET deposit and LBJ's sealed 1973 envelope. They connect "Nixon's Pyramid," the To The Stars Academy CIA operation, and 5G surveillance to a deep state effort managing alien contact for political gain. While debating whether black triangles are masers or genuine craft, they argue that militarism broke treaties with off-world civilizations, shifting activity globally and threatening future disclosures from sources like the Nixon capsule. [Automatically generated summary]
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The X Broadcast Mystery00:02:31
And here we go.
This is Dark Journalists, and we're live.
It's nice to have everyone here.
It's a great crowd, and we're going to have a very special broadcast tonight because we're looking at something very, very interesting, which is we're going to have this examination based on things that I've discovered about documents that have, I'm calling them stealth archives, which I think is the best way to put it.
But these things, as soon as we correlate them with Robert Merritt's.
Information that we've been putting out over the past few weeks about the Nixon time capsule and correlate them with some of the dark journalist deep state research that we've been doing here for the past few years.
I think we're going to have an incredible panorama to view about what exactly is happening around the UFO file and the secrecy, the wall of secrecy that's been built up around it.
It's great to have everyone here.
And of course, Alexander Bruce is here from Forbidden Knowledge TV.
Hello.
Great to see you.
We know that.
I know you had that incident with the bike and it threw you off for a little while, but everyone's very happy to have you back.
Yeah, it was the whole thing that I didn't fall.
I was on slippery stairs with a 100 pound bike.
And, you know, I almost fell backwards, but I stuck my landing foot.
I sort of, you know, I'm okay now.
I'm totally fine.
Wow.
Thank God.
Thank God.
That's all that counts when you get right down to it because there are so many little crazy things that can happen.
If I had fallen, it would have been a disaster.
I would have broken all kinds of things.
It's a lot better than it could have been.
No, you're lucky.
You're lucky.
Even though we know that you're kind of athletic, that sounds like it was going to be tricky.
For sure.
And of course, we have the lovely Olivia moderating the comments.
And make sure when you ask her comments, and you can say hello, Olivia.
Hi, everybody.
When you make your questions there, I just put them in caps because she'll collect them all and she's going to ask them.
We're going to do that in the last hour of the broadcast as we get into this.
But I call this the X broadcast for an interesting reason because the X. Part keeps coming up in my research over and over and over again, and I'm going to go right into it and then I'm going to correlate it after I set it up here with Alexandra.
So, of course, this is the dark journalist logo right here, which is an X, of course, and the X Files popularized by the popular show there.
Fifty Years of Secrets00:07:20
That was brought to us really by this character.
Let's see if I can get him in here Frank Scully.
And Scully was very interesting, actually, he had.
Involvement with someone named Dr. G, and he had this story about a crash saucer in Arizona.
And all these FBI people got interested in it and hunted him down, and all sorts of crazy things happened.
But Frank Scully was one of the first originals, and a lot of people would say, well, you know, the crash was a hoax or whatever it was.
But nonetheless, he was that person to go to with that information in the early 50s.
And he's a very important character.
And of course, you'll note Scully, of course, is one of the names of the characters in the X Files.
The man who actually ran the X Files for the FBI at that time is this gentleman.
His name is Guy Bannister, and he shows up, of course, training Lee Harvey Oswald around the JFK assassination, severe right winger, and working with FBI and CIA groups to train anti Castro Cubans to go back in and reinvade Cuba after the Bay of Pigs.
Very interesting character for a number of reasons, but his involvement with the UFO file is early, as we can see, is 1948.
So this is a character who shows up very prominently in the early versions of the X Files.
Now, one of the really big bombshells that I've come across, before I get to it relating to X, I'm going to show everyone this so they start to understand the subtle connections in the background before we get into the big ones in the forefront.
This is a letter from Richard Nixon to Donald Trump.
It's from 1987.
And he, in fact, is encouraging him here and saying that he and Pat look forward, that his wife is an expert on politics, and she predicts.
That whenever you decide to run for office, you'll be a winner.
So that's an archive, National Archives letter.
So we know it's the real thing.
And this is Nixon saying, when you go to run for the presidency, you're all set, which is kind of an interesting and very sure thing to do.
And we'll note he says, Dear Donald.
So this is somebody he's very well acquainted with, as opposed to Mr. Trump.
This is former President Nixon writing to you.
That is from December 21st, 1987.
And we're going to come back to the significance of this.
But I found it very significant in the grand scheme of this X investigation.
Now, X, you know, we have things in popular culture, like I said, like the X Files, Planet X, X equals the unknown.
We've got X, the Roman numeral for 10.
But there's some theme, some thread that's riding through the secrecy wall, through the secrecy documents, through these stealth documents that I started to understand a little bit better as we went through it.
And by the time I landed on this one, It all started to make sense to me.
Now, I pointed out before I get to this bombshell, I pointed out last week.
Was that last week?
We've been doing so many shows, probably last week.
This book, which was The President and the Apprentice, a really good book about Eisenhower and Nixon by Erwin F. Gelman.
I recommend, if you want to know about these gentlemen in that period, that you read it.
And also, this one, Being Nixon, A Man Divided by Evan Thomas.
Evan Thomas is a real Council on Foreign Relations kind of guy.
But that book on Nixon is pretty good because it has a few things that we can really get our hands on that are fascinating.
Here's the first thing that I noticed in both of those books that correlates.
We've got in the first few months of the White House, President Eisenhower wrote out a list for Project X, a secret recollection of his presidency to be deposited in a time capsule at his Gettysburg farm.
The first item was Nixon.
Okay, that is from Evan Thomas's book.
So, undeniably, Eisenhower had a time capsule, a 100 year time capsule.
That was going to be deposited at his farm.
This is in 1953, his first year in office.
And that farm was going to have the time capsule called Project X, all in caps.
All right.
The next reference to that time capsule is in the other book, which is the one by Erwin Gelman.
And this one corroborates it and says on May 14, 1953.
He included Nixon and a group of younger men who were important contributors to his administration's success.
Sometime that spring or summer, the president made a handwritten list for Project X, possibly the time capsule to be deposited at his Getty Berg farm.
Item number one is Nixon again.
So you can see they're drawing off each other's information there.
But we have this instant correlation now of a time capsule called X being deposited at Eisenhower's ranch.
Of course, We're going to go into things and how that correlates with the idea of Planet X.
But first, let's get into this.
So there's a secret letter on deposit at the Lyndon Baines Johnson Library that, as soon as he died, was given to the library.
We're going to take a look at this.
This is called, if you can see that.
Alexander, can you see that?
Yep.
That's only the something envelope.
Yeah, that's an X.
It's the X envelope.
And this is fascinating because.
One of Johnson's national security advisors, Walt Rostow, is taking this envelope and depositing it per Johnson's instruction with the LBJ Library and saying, don't open it for 50 years.
That was June 26, 1973, which would take us to June 26, 2023.
Another shot at the envelope.
See if we can get that one.
That is the actual envelope.
Inside, this is what it says to be opened by the director of the Lyndon Baines Johnson Library not earlier than 50 years from the date, June 26, 1973.
No question about that.
That is a completely authentic document at the Lyndon Baines Johnson LBJ Library in Texas.
Now, why would Johnson be keeping a letter on deposit at the LBJ Library?
For something called X. Again, it's unusual anyway for there to be something there that should only be opened in 50 years.
This idea of leaving a message for future generations to find out about what was happening is very important.
Eisenhower has Project X. LBJ has this letter X.
Now, this letter has been attributed at times by political scholars to this unusual incident when Nixon was negotiating.
Nixon's Illegal Bugging00:03:45
Behind LBJ's back during the 1968 election to get a better deal for Vietnam so that there wouldn't be a peace talk thing that would happen.
Very much like the October surprise with Jimmy Carter in 1980, when representatives of the Reagan administration, like his vice president George Bush and a person who would eventually become CIA director, went over and negotiated in France with counterparts of the Iranian government and said, hold the hostages until we get into office and we'll get a better deal in terms of like a better relationship.
But if you give them back to Carter, he'll beat us and you'll be stuck with the same administration and the bad deal you've been getting.
Now, the guy who really has done excellent work on that passed away recently.
His name was Robert Perry, and he ran something called Consortium News, which is a fantastic outlet for real independent journalism.
And he certainly leaned more to the liberal end of the scale, no question.
However, he.
You know, he had such a broad tapestry of information.
And when he talked about the whole Russian collusion thing that they were trying to pull on Trump, he largely debunked it through his own work.
So you could see that although he was coming from one particular perspective, he didn't like the idea of the media being abused for any reason, especially the reason of unseating a sitting president.
So, what was happening in 68, however, is really interesting.
As it turns out, now LBJ had been bugging illegally Nixon's plane and communications and figured out that he had this thing going on.
Now it's completely illegal wiretap, and Rostow even owns up to that.
But he obviously had enough that he was going to be able to put Nixon in this very bad position.
So the story goes that at some point Nixon was meeting with someone named Madame Chanot, who was a very prominent.
Figure in Chinese American relations.
And she was a direct channel to the South Vietnamese president.
And she was trading these messages back and forth from Nixon saying, Hang in there, you're going to get a better deal.
Now, this is done in political campaigns all the time.
But the fact that LBJ illegally bugged what Nixon was doing illegally was kind of like an illegal on illegal sandwich.
And so it really became quite the mystery.
And there's a lot of power plays between LBJ and Nixon that happen behind the scenes.
Where Nixon alludes to the fact that he knows a lot about the JFK assassination in relation to LVJ.
And of course, when the JFK assassination happened, Nixon was watching and he recognized Ruby, who had been on his House Un American Activities Committee, as a snitch, basically someone who was dining on these drug things.
But he knew he was part of Lyndon Johnson's Texas circuit.
So he instantly understood the connection between the assassination.
And of course, there's his famous comment to Roger Stone where he said, you know, LBJ and I both had a burning desire to be president, but I wasn't willing to kill for it.
So we understand that Nixon knew the score very well about LBJ's involvement in working hand in glove with dark elements in the CIA and the deep state to remove President Kennedy and assume his position, go into Vietnam and create this whole kind of drug war, oil war scenario back then.
So it's a major chapter in US history, but this little dance that happened, everyone assumed, okay.
UFO Disclosure Revelations00:12:39
This letter, this X envelope is going to contain all that information.
So in 1994, they let out one file in here, which is two pages, and it relates to tracking Spiro Agnew, who was Nixon's VP, in New Mexico, of all places, which is pretty unusual.
And then they also put a wiretap on Chanel's phone.
So this is kind of the cover story that, hey, this thing is all about and relates to Chanel.
And you could say on the surface that it does.
However, Upon seeing that the LBJ library was doing this, the intelligence community steps in and says, No, you're not going to release any more of those.
So they have this agreement now that this thing isn't going to be released until 2023.
And the actual agreement states that the director at that point can look at the envelope in 2023 and consider LBJ's request in relation to it.
And if he decides it's still not in the interest of national security, now that the CIA are involved, then nobody's going to get to look at it.
So that will be the end of the X envelope.
I have no doubt that there are a series of things in the X envelope, but the X part is very important.
Every president out there since we started this process with Harry Truman around the UFO file, I believe, has had some plan and wanted to take some credit for engaging the UFO file, engaging this particular extraordinary chapter in history, and didn't want to be left out when it was finally revealed.
And so we're seeing a trend here now from Eisenhower with his Project X time capsule.
We know Eisenhower.
Set up Area 51, was very well acquainted with the entire issue.
And we have that fantastic revelation from Winston Churchill's bodyguard saying that Eisenhower and Churchill, after the war, sat down and talked about this, how to bring this out to the people and decided against it.
That's a very important revelation and gives us an idea going in about how much Eisenhower knew.
When you're in the war and you're operating these bombing raids at 3 o'clock in the morning, that's when you get a chance, really, to observe UFOs and you get to observe them in flight.
The Foo Fighters is what they called them at the time.
But he had a vast knowledge of it.
And by the time he took over as president, this is the thing that he wants to get his hands on, which is how are we going to run the UFO file?
Now, interestingly enough, I was on Linda Moltenhauer's show last night, which is Phenomenon Radio, and she did a phenomenal job.
And I was on with her last week on Coast, and she has been referring to Cooper, who was this whistleblower she had a 15 year relationship with, who was giving her this information about Area 51 and this alien that they had learned to communicate with.
Now, Cooper is the guy who we saw later sitting down with Richard Dolan in a hotel room at the end of his life.
And they rolled that out for the citizens' hearing.
What did they call it, Alexander?
Do you remember the name?
It's the citizens' UFO hearing.
Just citizens' hearing for disclosure.
That's it.
Exactly.
Right.
Now, that was particularly significant because that was his first public presentation.
And it was very interesting, however, because of some coordinating.
Linda, who had the 15 year relationship with Chip with him, she had the 15 year conversation with him.
She wasn't the one who interviewed him on camera because the people who were setting up the camera side decided that Dolan should do it, but Dolan didn't know anything about the story.
So it's a little bit of an uneven interview, but I think we get the point in any case.
So the idea basically that Cooper presents is that as part of the CIA unit, he was running back and forth between Area 51 and DC.
Giving messages back and forth.
And at a certain point, when Eisenhower asked for an update, the CIA said, You don't have a need to know.
It's okay.
It's under control.
Like, back off.
And they won't give him this update.
And so he says to Cooper, I want you to give him this message that I'm going to take the Eighth Army in there if they don't have someone in my office by noon on Wednesday giving me that update.
And Cooper shows up, and the people at Area 51 agree to do this.
But one of the things that they do that Cooper didn't expect is they take him in to see one of these beings.
And he gets to observe it and he thinks it's a demon and he's very freaked out by the whole thing.
And they show him a crash retrieval wreckage and so on.
So what happens after that is that Vice President Nixon becomes the liaison in 1958 of the real, what they call CIA Blue Book program, unlike the Project Blue Book that we have, which was kind of a fluff thing of like, oh, we try to check out the trace elements on the leaf.
Where the UFO was, and things like that, where we had people like J. Allen Hynek, who had been so deeply involved, say, Yeah, they didn't really want the truth.
It was just a public relations exercise.
Now, if we take all that information together about Nixon and his knowledge, and Eisenhower and his knowledge, each one of these guys are so in the know on the topic, and they realize, Oh, there's a power play going on here between these forces that are coming in from aerospace.
And there's like this whole force that's trying to take that information away.
So the UFO file will be lost in this process.
From political power, the covert engine still has it.
The X envelope is particularly intriguing because it's LBJ's time capsule.
And I think that this, which has come to light, and we're supposed to get it in 2023, I believe now, looking deeper at it, that there's a code here going on from Eisenhower through Johnson through Nixon, and that X relates to the alien presence.
It relates to the UFO file directly.
That's where we're getting the X from.
Each one of them has their own hideaway token.
Merritt's story is pretty fascinating when you think about it.
And I recently found this picture of Merritt in a magazine.
This is pretty good from his younger days.
There he was.
Talking about being a confidential informant and dying all kinds of information about his FBI involvement back then.
So, this is the kind of track record that we have going on.
But I started to wonder to myself why.
You know, we had Grant Cameron on the show last week when you weren't here, Alexandra, and he came on and he was telling us all about the Eminager documentary, which was this documentary that President Nixon had funded and put forward and allowed all this access of the DOD for this director, Bob Eminager, to go in there.
And they were going to give him footage of a landing of a craft and so on.
And eventually this came out and it was called UFOs.
Past, present, and future, and had Rod Serling.
And we went over it extensively, so I'm not going to go into it too much here.
But one of the things that I think is interesting about it and that we have to keep in mind is that it's somewhere on the record where the Nixon administration is helping the cause of UFO disclosure.
That's important because when we're trying to size up Robert Merritt's claims about an ET time capsule being in the White House and Nixon putting it there in 1972.
As a kind of guarantee of his place in history and also to release something very important to the American people, it gives us a better picture.
It gives us a better idea of what was happening on the ground as opposed to just coming out of the blue and saying, you know, Nixon was involved with UFO disclosure.
On the face of it, you think, well, what do we know about Nixon in relation to that?
The Emma Nager documentary is important and also a revelation that Linda Moulton Howe made, both on her show and on.
The phenomenon radio and on Coast with me, which was that in 1983, when she met with Emin Eger and they had dinner, he showed her the letter from Nixon saying, Thank you for your discretion in this matter, relating to his keeping his mouth shut about what they didn't give him for the UFO documentary.
So, all of that very well detailed, lots of top witness testimony on it.
So, where does it leave us in terms of understanding what X is?
Well, We've got Eisenhower's time capsule named X.
We have LBJ's secret letter to be opened in 2023 named X.
And we have Robert Merritt's story of Nixon's ET time capsule in the White House, which now Douglas Caddy, the former Watergate lawyer, has approached the National Archives with and said, What can you do?
You know, if we'll give you directions to the time capsule, will you open it aloud and distribute it to the public?
And will you read it?
And we'd like to send a little delegation to you for that.
So that is the Where things stand in relation to this.
But it's fascinating because Nixon's time capsule isn't something that comes out of the blue on its own.
Although those meetings were never disclosed, the three meetings that Merritt had with Nixon.
He's never put that on the record, although he's put a lot of other things on the record.
In relation to this story, the Nixon part is actually a continuation of a process, it appears, from what Eisenhower, JFK, and LBJ were doing, which was taking a role in the UFO file.
Nixon is also facing in 1970 these assessments that the oil crisis is going to hit.
And also, our production level for the first time in oil in America goes down in 1970.
So he's got his ambassador to Saudi Arabia saying, well, they're already.
Giving us a hard time.
And in fact, in 1973, during the Yom Kippur War, in order to sort of, I guess, harass us because of our support of Israel at the time, they quadruple the price and then it goes up even further for Americans of oil.
And it sends us into a tailspin economically.
And the 70s were largely an economic tailspin.
If you go back and look at the nature of the times and the shows, you can see that that stuff is going on.
So, there's something very significant that happens when Merritt is getting the letter read to him by Nixon.
Nixon points to a formula in red ink that he wrote in his own hand and said, This is something that we got from the scientists at Los Alamos and their interaction with this being.
This is going to secure my place in history.
So, the indications being that this will make America energy independent.
So, this is why.
The push was happening, I believe.
And the idea was being floated around that Nixon was going to get a third term, even though legislatively that's not possible since 1952 when Congress voted that out.
So Nixon is thinking, I'm going to get this third term somehow.
And it'll be for the bicentennial in 1976, which will be our 200th year at the time as a country.
So all of these things are going on.
And then Watergate, boom, derails the entire process.
There's intelligence aspects involved, there's deep state elements involved.
But whatever it is, they want to get Nixon out.
And it could even be, you could say that they relate many of the things that are happening around Nixon, that they sort of dime into his plan for exposing this.
Now, between Emmenager's testimony relating to the access he was given at DOD and some of the stranger things that we see in the documentary itself, for example, the aliens that look like Sumerians who come out.
And when we're in this.
Wave of looking at all these details together.
We're starting to get a picture here because, of course, in 76, Zechariah Sitchin will come out with his 12th planet book relating Nibiru as planet X being this body that comes into our orbit.
Gene Dixon and Nancy Reagan00:14:45
Okay, that's also Sumerian.
So we have this crisscross of Sumerian things, but Eminager's documentary is from two years earlier.
So where's this information coming from about the Sumerian side?
I think that's all fascinating, and I had to dig deep to think to myself.
Where is Nixon getting his connection about this?
We understand his need for energy.
We understand his knowledge of the UFO file.
But what is it that's driving him to move on that?
And I found something very interesting that's very well documented.
So we don't have to just drift into speculation on this one.
This is someone who would be familiar to anyone who sort of hit the metaphysical scene looking for information.
Do you recognize her, Alexandra?
Jean Dixon.
Bingo, Jean Dixon.
Jean Dixon was famous for being an astrologer and being a psychic, and she was sort of like the main psychic of the day back in this period in the 60s and 70s.
Many books, psychic books, and horoscopes, and all kinds of things.
She was really well steeped in it.
It was a whole industry, really, with her.
And yet, if you dig deep into her background, she had been a psychic to the presidents since FDR, and her presence at FDR's White House in 1944 is documented.
But what we didn't know, well, at least in this context, it was buried way back there, is that Dixon, and we've got Dixon and Nixon here, so we're going to keep them straight.
Dixon, during the White House of Richard Nixon, visited or phoned the White House 80 times.
That's 80 times.
Now, she was giving him information on terrorist groups, domestic enemies.
Politics that were happening, his chances in 72, and so on.
But what is very interesting about her is her predictions about the UFO aspects, because she had gone on the record saying that the off world civilizations were ready to contact with us and it represented a change of consciousness.
We were entering the age of Aquarius, all of this kind of stuff.
This is where her mentality is.
And she is a close confidant.
Of Richard Nixon.
There she is sitting down in the White House giving him this advice.
At some point, apparently, he must lay the UFO factor on her, and she could very well be guiding this process for him to be releasing this information saying, You'll be a hero putting this out.
Now, Dixon's own view of the UFO aspect was that there were these off world civilizations who were more advanced and that they were going to usher in a golden age.
And she had a very, even though she was technically a religious.
Woman, she went into this, but one of the interesting things I'm going to try to find it here is that she made a prediction that was really far out, even for that time.
Um, and it's on the very last page here, so bear with me.
But do you remember Jean Dixon at all, Alexandra?
Yes, I do.
Um, but I remember her more from uh, she had a 900 phone number that you could call and it would be like on late night TV, and she was so old at that point.
Made the stupidest joke ever, and it became like a thing with me and my friends at MTV.
And I was like, If you're so psychic, how come you're so ugly?
And it was just like such a stupid thing to say, but we just thought, You're showing your grown up side, exactly.
No, but that was it.
We just laughed at it because it was so stupid, basically.
Um, what happened with Dixon was very interesting because she was very, she even was giving Nixon uh advice, but she was giving Reagan advice as late as the 80s on uh presidential matters, so she was called to the White House.
All the way from the FDR administration through the Reagan administration.
Soothsayer, psychic astrologer, trends reader, and she could really be called in to pinpoint certain situations, hostage situations, et cetera.
So if you think that.
Like in these sort of like parade magazine, you know, like the TV guide, you know, and that sort of.
She, I guess, had really good publicists and there was a lot of respect for her.
I remember that just being really little at the time.
Yes, absolutely.
And she was kind of like a major, she's one of the first really to be like her own franchise because at a certain point, a group takes her name and makes their own predictions and makes their own astrology thing and she has to sue them.
You know, so it's that kind of a thing where during that period too, if we look at the 70s, we're looking at a lot of psychic books coming out.
You know, people are into everything from crystals to meditation to reincarnation.
I mean, it's quite a period.
One of the big movies from the late 70s is called The Reincarnation of Peter Proud.
If you remember that, I actually watched it.
Yeah, I know.
On TV.
Yeah, and it is, I mean, you know.
Yeah, I think like Seth Speaks was pretty much ushered in the modern era of sort of channeling.
Yes.
And that's Jane Roberts.
Right.
And that's also part of this wave that we're talking about here.
And it is extensive.
But I would say Jane Roberts, again, in that Casey tradition, was more authentic.
And I think Dixon also, in her way, was authentic.
I think at a certain point, there's a lot of copycats that come into the field and sort of muck up the works.
But there's some real hardcore people like Peter Hercos who were around in that period who also had this demonstrated psychic ability.
And Yuri Geller, of course, who came up very strongly, he was used by Russell Targ and Hal Putoff in the SRI remote viewing program.
So we have an entire Group of psychics coming forward.
And we know for a fact that the government used them.
In many ways, we were catching up to our Soviet counterparts at the time because there's that famous book, Psychics Behind the Iron Curtain, which is again in the late 70s.
And it shows this whole program that we were doing to catch up to all the psychic things that were happening in these different parts of the world because in other parts of the world, they just wanted the advantage.
And in our government, we wanted it too.
But it was the kind of thing that they had to play down completely on the surface for a lot of reasons, but not the least of which was keeping it a secret that they were using these types of techniques.
I mean, I think it's fascinating.
So, this is Dixon's vision, just to give you some idea of the character who was giving all this advice and all these visits to Nixon.
By the way, there's an article just to really bring this home.
Hang on just a second.
And I do find Dixon a fascinating character.
And as we go through her stuff, it's making sense to me that Nixon had this reverence for her since she'd been giving this advice over the years to people as far back as FDR.
And I think that he must have just known of her reputation and had her on board.
But it'd be interesting to find out exactly when she started to advise him because, of course, he had already been vice president.
And you wonder if his association with her goes back to the Eisenhower administration.
I haven't got that far yet, but I am interested in knowing that.
So, just to kind of cement this a little bit more, we have a Newsweek article.
Newsweek article says Terror Watch, Nixon and Dixon, assigned to research the history of U.S. counterterrorism policy.
September 11th Commission researcher last year stumbled upon a bizarre discovery in the aftermath of the Munich Olympic massacre in 1972.
President Richard Nixon was briefed on terror plots that hadn't been divined by professional psychic Gene Dixon.
So that's on the record, that investigator.
I actually put in an interview with Joseph Farrell, we did a whole thing on Dixon and what she said about Akhenaten and Nefertiti, which I think is very interesting, which is she had this vision.
I'm going to read this vision, but they're in black and white in a regular mainstream newsweek.
You don't get any more mainstream or compromise than that, but there they are.
They're aware of this relationship as well.
So it's not something anyone has to guess at or think is a conspiracy theory.
Dixon was giving these readings to Nixon.
On a regular basis.
And Dixon's deep belief in the UFO factor being benevolent and good for humanity, I think, is absolutely crucial to Nixon's wanting to move forward with the disclosure efforts that he was doing through the Emmenager documentary that got cut short and then he had to revert to the time capsules.
This is the way that we're picking it up.
This is how we understand the X factor.
And remember, we're taking the X factor from Eisenhower's time capsule through LBG's letter and now Nixon's.
Time capsule, which he discloses to Robert Merritt, which we've only found out about on February 14th when I put the entire exclusive interview out on the Dark Journalist channel here.
So we've only had that information for less than a month out here in the public.
So we're all catching up to it collectively together.
So here is Dixon, Gene Dixon's vision.
So this is New World Encyclopedia, a messianic vision.
Often considered Dixon's most dramatic vision is one that came at dawn, February 5th, 1962, in which she saw a brilliant orb with radiating beams which seemed to pull the earth magnetically toward it.
Now, a pharaoh and Queen Nefertiti stepped out of the orb, and a child was held in Nefertiti's arms, clothed in rags.
The eyes of the child were all knowing, they were full of wisdom and knowledge, Dixon wrote.
Nefertiti then offered the child to the world and returned to the distant past when she was stabbed in the back.
Nefertiti was betrayed in this vision in the past.
Signifying the end of her reign, Dixon understood the vision as relating to the beginning of the age of Aquarius, in which a messianic figure would emerge and bring an end to war and bring peace to humankind.
This child, she said, will unite all warring creeds and sects into one all embracing faith.
This is again more from Dixon's vision, which was pretty profound.
And of course, she had predicted major things like the JFK assassination.
She was on record in 1956.
Predicting those events, but not naming Kennedy, just the Democratic president of the time.
So, this vision left a deep impression on Dixon as it did not leave her easily.
I'm going to read that again.
The vision left a deep impression on Dixon as it did not leave her easily like the others.
She said of it, Before the close of the century, this figure will bring together all mankind in one all embracing faith.
This will be the foundation of a new Christianity with every sect and creed united.
Through this man who will walk among the people and spread the wisdom of the Almighty Power.
She expressed her feeling after her experience as my cup runneth over, I loved all mankind.
I felt that I would never again need food or sleep because I had experienced this perfect place.
It's pretty heavy duty vision, but you can see how inspirational and charismatic Dixon was.
And if she had this kind of impact over Nixon that he had her constantly back to the White House, if she was such a proponent.
Of the UFO file.
And in 1977, she actually did a documentary with William Shatner of all people.
And it is fantastic.
And I recommend that you see it.
But she's talking about this mass landing that could occur if our consciousness was high enough.
And she's going through these stages of it and she's projecting herself inside of these crafts and stuff.
So she was an incredible proponent of the UFO presence.
And she, coming in with Nixon, who knew all these things, they really think that they're dealing with the entire culture moving forward on a worldwide basis.
So.
I think we get a lot of insight for starters right there with Gene Dixon and her relationship with Nixon.
That's something where I don't think we've ever seen anything like that that has existed on the record.
Although we all remember when Reagan got into trouble because he was consulting an astrologer.
And this is something that Nancy Reagan was up to.
But interestingly enough, Nancy Reagan also was working with Gene Dixon.
And again, here's Dixon going to the White House as a much older woman.
Now, it is interesting because, Alexandra, when you've written about this, for example, this idea, the kind of spiritual messianism that goes along sometimes with the UFO aspect, this could be something that really would have appealed to Nixon, who, after all, grew up a Quaker.
Sure.
But it also can appeal to.
You know, one of the things that, you know, evangelicals like to say about the whole UFO disclosure meme is that this is the new, you know, it would be like a New World Order religion.
Right.
And that they're just demons with falsehoods and whatever.
So, but I mean, I can see if you're not evangelical and if you're a little more progressive Christian, you might think, you know, back then, you might think that this could represent a way to unite the world.
Sure.
I mean, that's what Ray could get.
Talking about too.
Planet X Hypothesis00:07:47
You know?
It's true.
It's absolutely true.
You've got a significant X tie in also that you've found.
Can you tell me about it?
Oh, well, that during the Vietnam era, that was the term X file referred to a soldier who had, you know, been processed with MKUltra programming.
Right.
See, I found that particularly interesting also because X is, again, that factor that they're using there.
You know, the FBI had used it as an X file.
Now we're finding MKUltra people.
You know, X is that kind of blanket term.
I wanted to go deeper into the history of X because X.
I think X means a secret, you know, like Mr. X.
Yes, exactly.
But it comes from somewhere, this essence of it.
And we know that Planet X and we know all about the sci fi aspect.
Okay.
But there are other aspects around this.
Including one of the first books now by our friend Ford, Charles Ford.
And he writes a book in 1910 called X, and he submits it to all these different places, and it doesn't get any traction.
It's an unpublished book.
And later, when he becomes kind of a big shot in 1919, that book gets refloated with a new title.
And there are some fascinating things in there, including what are apparently UFO sightings from a period, and I'll read it right out of the book.
This is a great book, by the way.
It's Encyclopedia of the Extraterrestrial, Jerome Clark UFO book.
It doesn't get any better than that.
This one, I think, is particularly interesting because the book that was titled X never saw print, except it was rebooted and it was floated out in this other book that came out in 1919.
But Fort, as we know, with all the Fordian phenomena, I mean, you've run across his work a lot yourself, right?
Yeah.
And you would say, like, he was a major driver of the conversation in the first half of the 20th century.
And then afterwards, all these Fordians came out.
Like John Keel was a Fortian, for example.
And before the UFO phenomenon, you know, that began really, I guess, in the 50s, right?
In the early 50s, in earnest, you know, in pop culture.
And so, yeah, Fort was before that.
And so that's why Fortiana is very interesting because it's before the space age and it hasn't been shoehorned into kind of space age ideas.
You know, space opera mythologies, right?
Right, and it also, I mean, it has all that compelling stuff, uh, about these different incidents.
And you could say it's kind of like the first unexplained, you know, it's the first in search of these unusual things that can't be explained, but it doesn't have the alien tinge in it.
It's more about, like, you know, um, like frogs raining from the sky or you know, apparitions showing up or whatever it happens to be, but.
Fort himself is incredibly ahead of his time, as far as I can see.
So, the book X, again, unusual title, but here's something that's in the book that I found particularly interesting.
So, the Book of the Damned is the book that gets rebooted as X.
And one example of the sorts of proto UFO reports that caught Fort's attention can be found in Chapter 21.
Here it is.
Upon the morning of December 20th, 1893, an appearance in the sky was seen by many persons in Virginia, North Carolina, and South Carolina.
A luminous body passed overhead from west to east until about 15 degrees on the eastern horizon.
It appeared to stand still for 15 or 20 minutes.
According to some descriptions, it was the size of a table.
To some observers, it looked like an enormous wheel.
It's starting to sound familiar, right?
A little Kenneth Arnold spin in there.
And.
The light was a brilliant white.
Acceptably, it was not an optical illusion.
The noise of its passage through the air was heard, having been stationary or having seemed to stand still 15 to 20 minutes.
It disappeared or exploded with no sound of explosions.
So, this is basically an 1893 UFO sighting.
And it came through this whole process of Fort writing this book, X. Again, we've got that X tie in here with a very early UFO report.
And so, XX.
Planet X was sought after by a number of astronomers in the 1800s because they couldn't figure out the different issues that were going on with the rotations of the planets.
And they thought there must be something else out there causing them to act this way because, based on their own knowledge, it didn't make sense, certain things like Neptune's orbit.
So they started looking for planets beyond Neptune, and a number of theories came out and so on.
But they came up with this idea of planet X.
And at the time, X didn't mean 10 because they hadn't discovered Pluto yet.
Now.
Well, I think Neptune was Planet X, the first Planet X.
Oh, you know, it may well have been.
They hypothesized that it was there and then they found it.
And oh, you know, they said that the hypothesis was planet X is there because we could see and then they found it and then they named it Neptune.
Yeah, it's interesting.
I think the way I. Maybe that was Pluto.
I don't know.
Yeah, it was Pluto, exactly.
But here's the weird thing about Pluto.
But you're right that they were looking beyond Neptune, but Neptune wasn't the X that they were looking for.
You know what's weird about Pluto?
You know, this will just be a side thing, but.
Interestingly enough, the guy who found Pluto was working for the Lowell Observatory in Colorado, which a Bostonian had funded.
And he was only 26, but he impressed the guy with his astronomical diagrams.
So he was the one who wound up discovering it, he was in his 20s, which is absolutely interesting.
And then what they did is they went back through their records and they pre discovered Pluto because they had already recognized it as early as 1910.
So interestingly enough, Pluto gets demoted as.
Recently, it is 2015 to be a dwarf planet because they're looking at things differently out there.
And suddenly, the planet X that NASA is onto, which is hypothetical planet X, they decide in this article actually, it looks like it's going to be the real thing that they are going to find this planet.
But what are they calling it?
They're calling it Planet Nine because they've demoted Pluto, which doesn't make any sense.
And by the way, now there are all these groups that want to upgrade Pluto back to a planet.
But anyway, ordinarily it would be Planet 10, which would make it Planet X.
And of course, they're still calling it Planet X.
So we have all these unusual things about Planet X.
Now, we know that the independent alternative research community was sort of Anunnaki'd and Nibiru'd to death for a while there.
And so that Sitchin and his work got sort of thrown down this memory hole because of that in a lot of ways.
People got sick of it.
Sumerian Aliens and Missiles00:06:21
But interestingly enough, really, when you get right down to it, you know, Sitchin is absolutely validated.
By what we're seeing here.
So let's just explore this Sumerian aspect for a moment.
Because one of the things I want to point out is the Emmanager documentary that was funded by Nixon had the Sumerian aliens in it.
They were the ones who came out, and what do you call them?
You call them big nose grays, but they actually look pretty human.
And that's one of the artist's rendition depictions of them right there.
But basically, it's a Sumerian.
And we've seen the comparisons between.
These Sumerian princesses and this picture that's in the British Museum, and what they were doing here.
So, I dug a little bit deeper and I revealed this.
I'm going to string this together now.
This, by the way, Alexander, you might remember this, but that's Emma Nager and UFOs past, present, and future.
That's the documentary.
This is even more interesting.
Take a look at that.
Okay, can you see that all right?
What would you say just off the bat that reminds you of?
Well, it looks like a few things.
Well, it looks a little bit like a temple complex.
It also looks like maybe a fuel storage area or crop circles.
I don't know.
It's like all those things.
I would agree with all three of those.
It's something called Nixon's pyramid.
And this is something that Nixon set up and that apparently brought the Russians to the table during the treaty that they signed for SALT 1 and SALT 2.
Take a good look here.
Basically, it kind of looks like a mix of Stonehenge and the pyramid, and maybe a little bit of the Mayan pyramid, too.
I don't think that's too much of a stretch, but would you say that that's what that looks like?
Yeah, I've never heard of this.
What is this?
This is a fascinating place.
It's in North Dakota, and it was an anti ballistic missile site where they kept actual nuclear missiles.
And the idea was if there was a nuke shot here, they would knock it out with another nuke.
This is basically what they were working on.
Now, The anti ballistic missile system was operational in the 70s, but it was set up under Nixon, which is where it got the name Nixon's Pyramid.
Now, oddly enough, here he is out there pushing this kind of Sumerian documentary, and he sets up an anti ballistic missile battery, the biggest in the country, as a kind of basically like a temple complex.
So you have to wonder again, where is he getting his advice or inspirations from?
Obviously, it doesn't need to look like this.
But they're using something here.
For me, I mean, you know, it almost looks like when they talk about it, it's like the Giza complex set up, or, you know.
There's a very Sitchian kind of.
Yeah.
Now, interestingly enough, this was the site across the border, North Dakota and Canada, of massive UFO sightings in 1974 and 75.
So these huge Canadian waves crossed the border.
And at one point, there's a story that Grant Cameron tells us last week about a UFO coming out of it that these people had observed.
So, this was in the newspaper reports of the day.
Direct correlation with this UFO activity, Nixon's pyramid, and the strange sort of hearkening back to ancient technology that's going on under the Nixon administration.
What I'm gleaning from all this, and just because we brought them up so much, I can't.
Let the evening go without a good shot of Sitchin, who one way or another made us think a little bit anyway.
There's too many strands here for it all just to be a series of coincidences, in my opinion.
You've got all of these X factors.
You've got the Sumerian presence in the documentary.
You have the pyramid.
You have Sitchin writing in 76, a year after all the UFO sightings around the Nixon pyramid, about Nibiru coming in and it being related to the Sumerian mythology.
And how they changed it to Marduk later so that it would be lost and obfuscated and so on.
So, we're looking at something rather dramatic, I think, underneath everything, which is all of these players around the UFO file are trying to figure out what it is that's going on with this and its relationship to ancient technology.
One of the things that Merritt remembered that Nixon did was pull out a book, and the book was on ancient Egyptian mythology, and he was showing him these characters and saying, well, they've been here before.
I think now we're in a kind of a different ballgame with Merritt's testimony because there were things that were hanging out there before.
There was the Eminager documentary.
There was this, you know, even Linda seeing this letter from Nixon to Eminager.
There were all these things that were just kind of like hanging out there and didn't make sense because, you know, nobody had put these dots together because there was no reason really to connect Nixon with the UFO file.
Now that we've done it in a hardcore fashion, there's an entire apparatus of information and things that I've found in my investigations that I think we can really size up and change that whole aspect of history.
The time capsule contents, if we can get our hands on the actual letter to read it, would, you know, now that we have the kind of background for it, we know where this would go.
When we would read something like that, then I think we'd be in a totally different ballgame in terms of understanding what they've been doing with the UFO file through.
These different presidencies through the different generations since we've had it, really since 1947.
It's almost like a nuclear football.
It is.
It is.
It's a great correlation.
Weaponized Frequencies and Control00:06:47
Yeah.
Well, it's this fascinating secret that keeps getting passed along, and it looks like people use it for blackmail and people do these different things with it.
So, Olivia, we're coming up to that portion where you're going to take over with questions.
So, put yourself into position.
Everyone who wants to ask questions, now's the time to.
Do it because she really, you know, she's going to just take the stuff that's in front of her at the time, and she's put together a few already.
But while we're in the middle of all this, I want to take a little intermission here and ask Alexandra about all the things that we've seen about the YouTube copyright strikes and them removing channels.
What is going on there?
Recent story.
Well, basically, they're trying to deploy machine learning to do the censorship.
So that's why they came out and said, oh, it was a mistake.
Yes.
They fully copped it, it's automated.
So basically, what we have is that, you know, at least in the 20th century, the second half of it, we have the CIA having, you know, senior editors at all the newspapers and at all the TV stations having the ultimate say on any story.
You know, if you've ever worked in a TV station, the senior editor basically is the one, you know, the buck stops with them as to what's going to get on the air or not.
You know, the senior producer.
So back then it was very simple when you only had three networks or whatever, or, you know, even 10 or 20.
Now each human being who has a YouTube account has become a network.
Yeah.
Or it's a potential network.
And often.
Right.
So they have to.
It's decentralized.
You know, they're trying to.
So basically they're trying to apply, you know, from a centralized source, they're trying to centralize something that's decentralized by.
Applying swarm technology, you know, swarm machine learning that's going to recognize linguistic patterns and certain keywords or whatever to take channels down.
So it's an AI algorithm that would look at something, for example.
There's actually one from the ADL, and ADL is one of the two.
There's the trusted, what are they called?
The trusted flagger program that came out.
It came out a couple of years ago, but it came out again.
I think it was January when the Leaders of the public relations people from all of the big social media companies like YouTube went to Congress to address the pressing fake news problem and what a problem fake news is.
And what they said is that, yeah, we're using machine learning, and there's a good percentage of things that are getting taken down automatically where we don't even have to deal with it.
And so it's fascinating, it's terrifying, it's the automation of censorship.
And it's this is the dystopian world we live in right now.
Well, it's funny that you mentioned the ADL because I had read where Google had hired or partnered with the SPLC.
SPLC and ADL are the only two trusted flaggers out of some 20 plus that are public.
The rest, 20 others, are not public.
So, who the hell are they?
Who are these people who are sifting through our social media accounts and spying on us for the government censorship purposes?
It's really, it's a little disconcerting, I mean, to say the least.
And what we see in the complaint of, for example, Russia and other nations of the way that Americans are fighting war now is that it's all on the internet.
It's all, you know.
That's why the Internet of Things is all about creating a facsimile of reality online and having everything that exists become a node on the global information grid, the network.
And that this is one way that they can control everything.
But that's not going to be enough, apparently.
And what we're seeing with the rollout of 5G technology.
Is, you know, with all the cell towers that are ubiquitous, using this millimeter wave bandwidth, whatever, waveform, these are the waveforms of known so called non lethal weapons.
I'm sure they can be made lethal too.
But so basically, it's not only, you know, just think we already know how copious and how intense the spying and the controlling is.
On the internet, but they're creating a model, like a model space of reality online, and then they want to bring that same level of censorship and control to meat space.
They want to take it out of siren space and into meat space with these weaponized frequencies so that, like, literally, if you're thinking the wrong thing, you can be zapped, maybe.
I mean, I'm not saying that this is happening, but if they're using frequencies that are, they've developed weapons, you know, non lethal weapons.
And even lethal weapons in that frequency.
And now it's going to be on every cell tower?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like, if nothing else, seeing that it's all tied in with the internet anyway, it can be hacked and weaponized in that way by an enemy, even if the enemy isn't the state itself that's going to do this.
No, it's an excellent point.
And it's a bridge too far.
You know, we get into that kind of global control grid.
We're already seeing, though, a lot of that is going to be run from space.
And I have an interview coming up that I'm going to do with Eleanor Freeland on her new Space Fence book, which is excellent.
And her work around the Space Fence and what they're building there and the kind of control that they can have with that on planet Earth is astounding.
Because I've done previous interviews with her on it before the book was out.
And basically, what we're looking at is surveillance down to the DNA level.
That's the way she puts it.
CIA Monopolies and Fascism00:15:04
So, we have to get a handle on what it is that they're up to in relation to this.
And of course, the space fence is kind of the catchphrase for that.
But a lot of people are calling it a space cage who look deeply at it because the idea largely being that, you know, we're going to protect you from the space junk out there.
But what it is, is we're going to control kind of day and night.
So I think that we're at a point where there needs to be a real kind of public series conversation going forward about the use of the technology.
What is the ethical, you know, what constrains us ethically in what we're doing and what role the natural, The regular citizenship has in it.
The other thing that bothers me in relation to the SPLC being used by YouTube on these groups, I mean, there should be a balance really between conservative groups and left leaning groups and different voices on that.
So if you're going to pull in the SPLC, you're going to have to go over to this conservative think tank or something to balance it out, or else you're going to have a one way conversation there.
So I don't think it's a healthy development.
Well, it's one way when they're just taking people down, like.
Like the Richie Allen show, which is preposterous.
I mean, he's an excellent interviewer who is incredibly fair.
I wouldn't call him a conservative.
And that's another thing that's really annoying about this whole thing is, you know, having, identifying as a progressive my whole life.
And now, because I basically was anti Hillary, I'm now labeled by these Google bots as a conservative.
And it's just preposterous.
You know, that that's, and these labels mean less and less because.
What is liberalism if it's just neoliberalism, which is total fascism?
You know, fascism by tech monopolies.
It's a technocratic outcome, it's technocratic reality while the guys at Davos figure out where they're going to ski.
So it's a problematic situation on a few levels.
And I think that people like Bezos coming in and dominating, like buying the Washington Post and then the CIA hiring him to do cloud work.
And then buying Whole Foods, you know, it's too much.
We need to look at the monopoly aspect.
We've broken them up before.
And if places like Amazon and Google want to become monopolies, then they should be subject to that kind of a scrutiny.
The other thing is that they wouldn't, this is the scary direction that the deep state is moving, is that these companies wouldn't even be what they are today if they really weren't de facto branches of the military, you know, in tolerance of the establishment.
I mean, they are.
So they've always been.
I mean, that there's even, I think Jeff Bezos' family goes back at least three generations as far as being deep state people.
You know, like his grandfather worked at Los Alamos, I think, and his adoptive father was CIA.
Yeah, this is a great point, actually.
And speaking of deep state people, Christopher Mellon was in the news, and this answers a question a little prematurely.
That I got, which was an email question, which is, What did you think of the TTSA third video release?
And it was accompanied in an article by the Washington Post.
And the footage is more of that grainy stuff that.
Then the article, and it's just asking you for money.
It's like, it's so crashingly boring.
I can't even keep the page open for more than like 10 seconds.
Excellent.
You know, when you look at it like that, I mean, it's the CIA publication, the Washington Post.
Catherine Graham, Ben Bradley, you know, it's all big CIA wash back there.
They control it.
Bezos takes it over and saves it because it's failing.
Because, of course, newspapers like that trying to compete in the digital world for real ideas of getting around aren't doing so well.
So Bezos rescues it.
He gets the CIA contract for the cloud, which is almost the same amount of money.
It's a weird exchange.
It's triple.
The CIA contract was $600 million.
He got paid $600 million by the CIA for the cloud contract, and he paid $200 million for the Washington Post at a greatly reduced price.
Amazing.
No, he came out ahead $400 million there.
Yeah.
And he doesn't own it.
It's nothing.
It's just, it's all, he's a front.
It's all, they're all fronts, apparently.
Well, they were the ones, the Washington Post were the ones who took on the election results the most and wanted to overturn the Trump election.
That is for certain.
But the next thing that they did is they went after the likes of you and I, in a sense, because when they went for their whole fake news push, they were the ones who published the proper not list, which said anybody who's doing this stuff is under the Kremlin.
And they had these like little, like UFO file site or whatever.
Yeah, but they had already started when I began really speaking.
Being disrupted was in early 2015, really, when the presidential election was getting underway.
Yeah, that's right.
Well, you and I noticed that they went into overdrive the Thanksgiving after the election.
That's when they really were like fake news and they just hammered the term home.
That's when they really let loose.
However, the thing that you're talking about was when they were trying to take control of the election before it went down the way it went down.
And yeah, you experienced lots of interference when you're.
Putting up stories that were questioning Hillary and you know, Hillary's illness and all that stuff was this incredible protected secret there for a while.
Yeah, it was just very eerie for me as someone who actually voted for Bill Clinton twice.
That was a different era, you know.
It was just like having this, like the wool pulled, you know, off of my eyes, and it's like, you know, these people are just a continuation of the Bush cartel.
And just God, I mean, with all the the the theft that's been going on since really since.
Ever since George Bush Sr. was director of CIA, it would be so amazing if we could just have reduced the corruption at least by half, reduced the theft by half.
I mean, life could be so much better.
Absolutely.
No, I totally agree.
And just to answer that question that was lingering around in my inbox before I started the broadcast, I have looked at the footage.
I'm no more convinced that TTSA has anything good.
Elizondo did an interview with Knapp where he said, We have 34 videos, just you wait.
And this is that, like, we have all this stuff.
It's like a Netflix series, right?
We're going to release the next segment and all this stuff.
If you have a good video, one will do, okay?
You don't need 34.
And Elizondo, as I've gone into many times, and I recommend you watch the broadcast, the broadcast we did here on New Year's Day, which goes into Elizondo's background as a counterintelligence officer.
And, you know, I don't buy his story working at the lowly UFO desk.
He said simultaneously he was the guy who took the videos and released them to the public.
And then later he said, no, I didn't do that.
And then the DOD said that they didn't do that.
And then the chain of custody around the videos was never established.
And then it was found that one of the videos was released in 2007.
And then the other thing was that they used a Mylar balloon during the presentation representing the Tic Tac video.
I mean, real, so many blunders around it, but then also kind of intelligence manipulation on one side.
And then their marketing manipulation that you really pointed out.
Oh, it's just so awful.
The landing page, it's just an ad, it just says invest.
It's just trying to get your money.
It's disgusting.
No, I totally agree.
I think TTSA is CIA.
And then mixed with some weird marketing operation that doesn't have anybody's best interest at heart, except.
Well, no, you can tell that it's not even a real business.
Again, it's very CIA ish.
Yes.
It's not that Keystone Cops, just clunky stupidness that accompanies everything they do.
It's that CIA front and Mellon, of course, coming out and doing this.
Well, Mellon is an intelligence guy from.
Defense intelligence guy from the Clinton administration.
Well, what do we know about the entire thing about the To the Stars Academy and DeLong and all that?
It was all a Podesta operation.
They thought Hillary was getting into office.
They were going to peddle this stuff out and say, oh, we have an aerial threat.
We need a new big budget.
And they were going to fund this whole space defense thing against.
You know, not the next scam.
It's the next fleecing, it's the next financial harvesting.
Yeah, there's no UFO truth there.
And people who run around for that stuff, I mean, you're going to be very disappointed.
But I think a lot of people already see through it.
And that's the good thing.
Thing.
And I don't mind saying that we were ahead of most of the voices out there on this because we were taking a look at who was involved.
And when you turned around on that stage when they came on October 11th into the first presentation, which didn't go so well, but you were surrounded by CIA people.
Everywhere you looked, there was a CIA person or a Lockheed Martin person.
It was the United States of Lockheed Martin and the Central Intelligence Agency running the whole thing.
And that's fine.
If you want to come forward and say, well, it's a CIA operation, these are our CIA guys, and they know, fine.
I have a simple rule when it comes to covering these things.
Billionaires plus the CIA around anything important don't usually equal anything good for the public, unfortunately, as it turns out.
So let's not forget that in 2015, the CIA came out and said, Remember those sightings of airships in the 50s, 60s, and 70s?
It was us.
We were the UFOs.
We were the ones who did it.
We were testing stuff out.
So they're saying that they confused the public.
They're owning up to that.
And now they're coming out through DeLong's thing and saying, Hey, we're taking care, we're protecting the public.
So, it's a very strange operation.
I've gone in depth, of course, our shows with Grant Cameron.
And the one that you and I did with Grant Cameron was really fun.
And we just did one Friday, which was his follow up.
And there's a lot of information there about how those projects have moved over time and involved the same players like Ron Pandolfi and actors like that.
And there are such high level CIA people.
And again, the people involved like Elizondo, you know, this is a guy who was in Kandahar.
You know, he has all these medical credentials, just like Pandolfi.
Pandolfi's the top scientist at the CIA.
Can you imagine that?
Like, let's just think about that for a minute.
What does the top scientist at the CIA know?
And so to have these people monkeying around with public perception around UFOs, really bad road.
And those people who have joined in with it on the marketing side and really treated it with kid gloves, great journalists previously, like Leslie Kane and George Knapp, I mean, you know, not only are they kind of ruining their own.
Good work.
But they're inviting in this element of, you know, this kind of swampy CIA element into the UFO field.
Really bad idea.
We're not going to get the truth there.
We'll get the truth from civilian researchers, from experts, you know, people who can bring forward these facts.
And even the whistleblowers that we have, people like Merritt, for example, are going to get a lot closer to the truth that way.
Absolutely.
No question about it.
So, you know, there's no daylight between Alexandra and I on TTSA.
We know what it is, we've sized it up.
As far back as last fall.
So, unfortunately, they are trying to come in and corral this issue.
And that's why it takes honest media outlets to rebuff that effort.
And I know that some of the UFO conferences or whatever, who, you know, suffer and need to drive the numbers and do whatever it is, you know, don't go for it.
There are much better stories out there, there are better investigations to follow up on.
And, you know, You don't need an intelligence project.
You don't need a PSYOP in order to drive tickets to your conferences.
There's other ways to go.
It's giving, it just gives the whole field a bad name.
It's completely tarnishes the whole thing.
There's no question about it.
I mean, in a way, it's like the Twilight Zone because you have all of these authors who previously would have been like, the CIA blocked this, the military blocked that, the government did this.
To the UFO thing.
And now they're like, hey, the CIA is on our side.
Let's do this.
It's all an intelligence operation.
And I want to be there when they do the documentary.
Well, maybe there's money involved.
I don't know.
I mean, I know that some of those guys need money.
Can you spell Bigelow for me?
B I G?
No.
Yes, there's money involved.
I mean, look at Mellon himself.
Okay, the guy who wrote the article in the Washington Post today.
It's the Mellon family.
Well, that's one of the biggest families in history.
You know, that's fine.
It's not a crime to have money, but manipulating an issue like the UFO file with intelligence stories and throwing out, like, you know, bad footage and dubbing it and stuff, it's not going to fly because you have too many people in this particular period.
I think there's too many people who have a sense for when they're being, you know, when an operation is being played on them.
And on the internet for, You know, 20 years or whatever.
Well, this ties into some of the YouTube stuff that you were talking about because, you know, YouTube works best when it's an open forum, when you get all the voices.
Obviously, that's what made it so great.
That's why I'm here, and I think it is fantastic.
But I don't think the idea that shutting down voices is the way to go.
And I think that their business model would suffer.
Not somebody like Richie Allen.
I mean, that's.
Right, Richie Allen.
Well, Richie Allen is a high quality show, excellent show.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not the kind of thing that you would, you know, you wouldn't say, well, you know, this is too controversial a thing.
Or, yeah, or that he's inciting to anything.
I can't even imagine what, you know, except for it was just too much truth.
Yes, too much truth.
That's actually the name of your autobiography.
It's coming up.
We're, okay, so we're ready for you, Olivia.
Okay.
I'm turning it over to you.
So let's stick with TTSA right now.
David Allen asks, why are there so many biotech members in TTSA?
Well, see, it's a great question.
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And I've pointed it out before, but there's a number of possibilities.
I don't want to speculate too much, but my guess is that there's going to be some kind of component built around it where they're going to say, you know, we've invited some alien virus in and everyone's going to need some kind of a pharmaceutical.
You know, there was an incredible X Files episode where they handled this.
And somebody like Chris Carter has done a good job of translating real things that are happening into some of the Fantasy stories of the X Files.
And they did.
And at the end of that cliffhanger that they were doing last season, everyone was looking for the antidote to the alien virus.
Well, I don't think this is too far off.
There's a lot of unusual factors around the people who are coming forward in that.
And very often we hear that the next actual false flag, not people having a knee jerk reaction to something, but a real, genuine, large scale false flag would be a medical one.
And I just remember, you know, when they went crazy with that whole Ebola virus.
Do you remember that?
Well, yeah.
And the Zika one, which was a complete false thing.
I mean, they were trying to blame.
A very low grade virus that's transmitted by mosquitoes.
It doesn't do anything except for give you a fever.
It's really a nothing.
And they're trying to blame the small microcephaly thing on that, when it was really probably more the pesticides used to control those mosquitoes that would actually result in that.
Didn't you look into a story in Brazil about what they were doing there?
Yeah, I think it was a sabotage.
Campaign against Brazil actually, because Brazil was part of the BRICS.
It's, you know, they have to treat Brazil differently than they treat Russia.
Russia gets sanctioned, and Brazil gets these weird, underhanded, like, you know, hoaxes.
Yes, absolutely.
And that's the way they operate.
Still a strange relationship there between the United States and these South American countries.
There's like the way that they handle them, certainly to get them in mind.
Like the word paternalism comes to mind.
Exactly.
What do you got?
I have another answer, by the way.
Yes.
Which is that, as I've said, I have a friend who is a former, you know, he's a retired Merck, as he's, you know, and he has many other associates in that world, like a former, you know, defense contractor, you know, but aggressive.
We'll just call him X. X. He's definitely an X. He's, you know, he's retired, sort of special forces, hard, like even more than special forces.
And he knows other guys like this.
And he said that, like, the A very hefty bounty would be paid for alien hybrids, you know, very, or hubrids, as David Jacobs was calling them.
They're almost, they're nearly indistinguishable from a human being, except for something a little weird about the eyes.
Like they need to wear contacts.
And you're thinking the presence of biotech people from the CIA.
Well, that's another thing is that the bounty is high for those hybrids because they want to use their genetics.
And in particular, They want to use their genetics to splice them in for their telepathic capabilities.
That's what I was told.
That's the main thing.
That's the main reason why they're going after hybrids.
And it costs, they can get a pretty penny for them from these biotech companies that want to do some genetic engineering with them.
It's such a black, super black budget program to do that.
But it's absolutely fascinating, strangely enough.
It's just such an interesting thing to see my labs from the other.
Side, you know, not the abductee side, but from the Merck side of the guy who's going to get paid money to grab somebody, you know?
You get support in this thought from Dr. Joseph Farrell, who, when we had him on the show in October, we had this whole conversation about why they were using these airport scanning machines and those particular types.
And he actually felt that it was an effort to identify if there was anything like that among the general population, which I found absolutely fascinating.
And I think he was right on the money, but he agrees with you there.
Okay, what do you got?
The scanning machines could detect what?
If the people who are going through the machines could be, they have an anomaly in their physiology that would help them to know, oh, we have X amount of.
They live.
It's like the sunglasses.
Right, exactly.
Right on.
What do you got?
Jill Putin wanted to ask who are the pilots talking in the New York Times video?
I don't think that's been revealed yet, right?
No.
What's interesting about that is they have a pilot who comes forward named Fravor.
Who they always show him with that footage, but that's not him talking.
And the footage that he saw, the thing that he saw, isn't actually what we get to see.
They're always putting this weird gimbal footage beside him.
We never got to talk to those pilots, but in this new one, they also have the weird audio.
And again, we've been told by people who are pretty experienced pilots that you don't get that type of banter and you also don't have those types of sounds.
So they're actually creating this backdrop of sound.
And when they're tracking this thing, you know, this is not a great video, this new one at all, actually.
It has the same problems, but they make these sounds like, woo, we have it on track.
You know, we're tracking it now.
And it's very much like, you know, as if you're watching Homeland or something.
It just seems like this scripted thing.
So, no, we haven't got to talk to those pilots.
Certainly, a guy like Fravor could have seen a UFO.
That's not what's in question.
The problem is the conflating of his testimony.
With the weird gimbal footage video, which is what the media did throughout.
And for some reason, they wanted to create that thing because he was a good presenter and all the rest of it, unlike so many people they have around this.
But they had to pair him up with this other footage because he wasn't actually the footage that he saw, they didn't actually have to put side by side.
So it doesn't look very good.
Anytime you get near the TTSA and you try to get around evidence, there's no chain of custody for the videos.
That's one.
Counterintelligence people who tell you the program is secret, not secret.
Counterintelligence people who said, I was disgruntled, I was so angry, but then hung around for five years.
You know, Harry Reid directing money into the program.
You know, a really low amount, like a nuclear toilet amount of money.
Right?
$22 million.
And we did a slew of shows about it, so I won't go through it all here.
But the thrust of it is TTSA is a CIA operation.
That's all you need to know.
And some billionaires are floating around it.
And maybe some of the UFO, even the good researchers, have gone along with it.
But I don't think that's going to last, frankly.
I think that some of them are seeing the light, and there already are people bolting from the whole thing.
So I think the more that they try to push this thing, the more pushback that they're going to get in terms of public perception.
You know, with an op like that, for all we know, they're trying to discredit the entire thing themselves.
We just don't know what they're up to.
And those aren't the types of groups that we want in charge of something as sensitive.
A group that's putting up a Mylar balloon and If that's not discrediting, I don't know who it is.
Yeah, between that and the Joe Rogan interview, you kind of have all you need to know.
And when they roll out, this is the story that Linda Moulton Howe told me that when she was at the World UFO Congress, when they got to the Elizondo thing, he wouldn't take questions.
They had a pre recorded thing where they would float in the questions, like, How did you become such a super dynamic fighter for justice?
And they'd float in these questions.
And then he would sit there and answer questions.
She said it was completely flat, and when it was over, nobody applauded.
And that the announcer had to say, Okay, everybody, now, like, you can applaud if you want to.
It was like a few people, like, hey, but there was no people were not into it.
They weren't buying it.
And there's no real vitality behind something when it would definitely be.
It's like, I can't even really.
It's like, you know, the click culture, whatever it is.
I mean, I deal with it.
I have to be online all day.
And it's like, it doesn't hold my attention.
It's dead.
It's asking me to invest in it.
It's like, goodbye.
Yeah.
You're not giving me anything.
Yeah.
Excellent point.
That's what it is.
It reminds me of like a bad, you know, kind of like investment commercial.
And, you know, it's like an Ameritrade commercial.
But I don't like the presence of these operators so closely trying to invade the space because what I feel about it is they're trying to derail something that's going on there.
I do feel that it's a leftover movement, the whole thing around DeLong and the New York Times and now the Washington Post.
And these are all Clinton people.
And it's a leftover from this weird Podesta thing that they were going to try to do on their side, I think, in terms of like.
Drumming up all the support.
And one thing that you pointed out, Alexandra, which I thought was fascinating, which is they realize they can't get the kind of investment that they want in it.
However, if it is a government budgeted program, there's endless amounts of money you could pour into it as, like, you know, I'm sure it's called Fire Sign.
It's Project Fire Sign.
And that's the thing that's referenced in the Beninson Group document that got leaked by WikiLeaks right before the election as a potential tactic to dissuade voters from going to the polls, literally.
Was to fake a UFO invasion and get people to freak out and not go vote.
That was actually.
Right, right, right.
This was a scenario that they gamed out.
I mean, that's how boneheaded and weird these people are, so weird, man.
And so the name of the project is called Fire Sign, and it's very developed holographic laser stuff that looks like UFOs, but they aren't.
They're fake.
Yes, absolutely.
I would say that there's nothing.
In the TTSA that has anything to do with legitimate UFO research.
And I would completely avoid them.
You're not giving them your money.
Absolutely not.
That would be the last people you'd want to give money to.
What else you got?
Okay, Jewel Lighthart.
What is Peter Lavenda doing in the mix?
Does this negate all of his work?
You know, it's a weird thing about Lavenda, and every person who is out there writing their own stuff has to answer for their own thing.
So, I can't say exactly what he's doing there, except that I know that the same offer was made to Joseph Farrell.
And because Farrell was so anti Clinton, it didn't come together.
But I understand that the package that they present, in terms of like, you get your book out there, it'll be a lot of publicity, and you'll make a lot of money, sounds very attractive to these writers.
Now, I don't know Peter Lavenda.
He hasn't been on the show, he's written some good books.
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So, I think that he took the bait there.
And my suggestion for people who got involved is to get uninvolved.
Because it's one thing to say, well, you know, they lured me in with all this stuff, but as it's rolled out, it's not looking very good.
So I would hope people like Lavenda would just stay away from it because it seems to me they have better work to do.
Well, there's just no money in writing pretty much unless you write something really mainstream that you pushed by Simon Schuster or whatever.
As the author of six very important books, including one from Simon Schuster.
Well, you wrote a wine book.
Is that even among the six, or is that a different one?
Yeah, that's I co wrote.
That's the Simon Schuster one.
Mainstream, but relatively mainstream.
It was about how to make money in the global wine market.
It was kind of like that was your commercial album right there.
Yes.
Like you had all these underground hits.
Yeah.
I was, what was it?
I was sort of rehabbed as a straight person or whatever.
Money.
Definitely.
But I always recommend your books to people because Science and Superstition is an excellent, fantastic book.
And The Philadelphia Experiment Murder.
Everywhere that I come up, And I know what I wanted to ask you.
I wanted to ask you about Val Thor.
You wanted to just throw a couple of things in there because, of course, there's a big Nixon connection with that story, also.
Oh, I don't know what the Nixon connection is.
I do know that Al Bielek had pictures of a meeting that was held in the hole downstairs, below decks, on the USS Aldridge, which was the ship that disappeared in the Philadelphia experiment, according to the classic legend of the Philadelphia experiment.
And in that meeting, you see this like super blonde, you know, pixie nosed guy.
And he appears in other pictures from that era and, you know, in that unit.
And Bielek claimed that he was a Venusian and that his name was Val Thor, that he was literally from Venus.
He was like this like total, you know, classic Aryan guy.
And that his name was Val Thor.
It is funny.
There's a book, and someone made this into a movie.
I don't know if they ever got to actually finish the movie.
It was called Stranger at the Pentagon, and it's about Frank Stranges.
Frank Stranges was an interesting guy.
He was a preacher, and he was really into the UFO thing, but he claimed that he met Valthor.
And the Valthor that he met, actually, the way they describe it in the book is the guy, the blonde guy that you're talking about, was related to him or something?
He was a different guy.
There were two of these blonde dudes, yeah.
Right, yeah.
But interestingly enough, Strange has told that story right up till he died.
So there's like a 40 year track record of him telling this, which I found fascinating because, of course, with a story like that, you just let it go after a while.
There was that whole Howard Menger movement in Highbridge, New Jersey.
They had all those meetings.
It was kind of like the East Coast version of the Integratron guy.
What is his name who did the Integratron?
It's another Howard, isn't it?
No, no.
It's like Van something.
Van Tassel.
Yeah.
Yes.
George Van Tassel, who again, If you look at him in interviews, it seems completely legitimate.
He's a very sensible guy, and he got this incredible information, this download from this interaction with this off world.
That was what the, you know, before the whole gray motif came into the picture.
Yeah, these are very different.
With Whitley Strieber, pretty much.
These were like exaggerated humans, right?
No, no, they were also decidedly Nordic.
All of them were like space Nordics and, you know, superior.
You know, it was almost like this Nazi Superman kind of idea.
You know, that they were embodying this Nazi ideal kind of thing.
Right.
This is George Adamski's guy.
Right.
So many.
And like some of these, Ashtar, Ashtar Command is all like that.
And a lot of the Pleiadian stuff is kind of all like that.
Right.
Oddly enough, the Mormon story is very much like that also, because Moroni is very much, looks like a Pleiadian.
So a lot of themes of space in the Mormon religion also, which I find fascinating.
Or features of an abduction scenario, certainly with Moore and I.
I think as I say his name.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Moroni.
No, it's not Moroni.
It's Moroni.
I like the story that Joseph Smith tells about these tablets in upstate New York and this lost tribe coming to America.
I actually find a lot of it very plausible.
There might even be some, you know, and maybe it was an alien interaction.
Yes.
They're calling angelic or whatever.
I knew.
In the book that I translated from Portuguese about the.
The apparitions of Fatima, they went into the whole, the foundation of the Mormon church and how it had those first encounters Joseph Smith had with Moroni really had a lot of the features of the classic alien abduction scenario,
as did the chapter of Daniel by the Euphrates and the Tigris, and he falls down and it's an angel and he's paralyzed, and it had a lot of the features of an abduction.
You know, classic alien abducted scenario.
There's no question.
And I think when we're looking at things to bring this conversation all the way around, we're looking at the things that Nixon was doing in the Nixon pyramid and using these Sumerian figures, which were supposedly what came out of these ships, right?
They're tying it in.
They're using a kind of religious thread in what he's doing.
And then when I think about Gene Dixon and where she's coming from, very religious.
She also is applying this kind of spiritual imagery around these off world civilizations.
The whole thing that she's saying is that they're on a higher consciousness level and that they're kind of here at this point to take us into the age of Aquarius.
This is where she was coming from.
But when you think about it.
That's like a big CIA mind control like story, or if it's true, I don't know.
But that is the story that Stuart Swerdler tells.
And it's basically there's a level of humanity that's in between us and the angelic realm.
As far as having evolved a lot of the gross, lower aspects of our human nature into something finer and just more spiritual.
I knew you were going to mention something about the Montauk Project during this evening.
Puff into my mind.
Of course, you've done a book on it, but whenever I watch things when they're trying to promote Stranger Things, I always think of your book because it literally is the Netflix version of what you wrote 20 years ago.
Yeah, it came out.
It came out in January 2001.
That's amazing.
And it is an incredible story for sure.
And I recommend people pick that up.
What else have we got?
I'm dying to ask this question.
Cybri, Nixon was the only president that said Bigfoot is real.
This is true.
In the 1974 U.S. Environmental Atlas, Bigfoot is listed as a native species.
That's true.
Good point.
I don't know the story.
Tell me.
I don't know this.
Well, under Nixon's administration, Nixon started the EPA.
Okay.
So one of the things that they did is they cataloged all these species.
And because of all the Native American stories about Sasquatch, Nixon decided he's not going to leave him out.
And he's actually in there.
If you go into the 1974 records, he's recognized as a native species.
So there was an incredible craze.
Look, there's a $6 million man from the 70s that has Bigfoot and UFOs, which is absolutely incredible as a time capsule.
Talk about a time capsule.
I have to run that on my tunnel if I.
Oh, it's fantastic.
And you'll have a really great time with it because it's absolutely phenomenal.
All right, what else you got?
Truth Freedom, can you tell us about Planet X?
Which sources should one look at?
If they're talking about something that's going to crash into the planet and disrupt the solar system, and all the psychics that are talking about that, who do we trust?
I don't know, because for the longest time, I studied this situation.
And for the longest time, NASA and other official astronomical bodies did everything that they could to.
Deny the possibility, you know.
They're just really anti catastrophists.
You know, mainstream science just wants to be gradualist and anti catastrophist.
But there were scientists who were showing, as I said, it was Muller and Rode wrote this paper called Cycles of Fossil Diversity.
That's what it's called Cycles of Fossil Diversity that showed different wave patterns.
Like a 26,000 year pattern and also a 26 million year pattern.
26 interestingly kept coming up, that number, for mass extinctions that they assumed came from asteroid impacts that would presumably come from some kind of an elliptical orbit object that would disrupt the asteroids in either the Kuiper belt or in our own asteroid belt.
Well, I did an interview with Graham Hancock about the comet strike that hit around 10,000 BC, is where he placed it.
And he said the impact would be like a thousand nuclear blasts hitting.
So it's an incredible impact.
We can't even imagine it.
We just picture, oh, there's a comet coming in, big deal.
But it actually can change the position of the Earth and the way it rotates and everything else, depending on what it was.
You know, there's incredible research.
What I really get into.
Is the research around Atlantis?
Because I think in Atlantis, we get the impression of what would happen if a heavenly body disturbed the earth and we got something like a pole shift.
Because when you go into that, you start to realize that there are native legends.
There's all the stuff that Plato said about it.
There's so much supporting evidence for that type of cataclysm in our past that I think that's something we can get our hands on.
When it comes to Planet X, we're still a little bit in the dark.
We're looking out at all these other galaxies, and they, you know, we're finding all of these different stars and planets supporting them.
And from what I understand now, they're up to saying that there are two trillion galaxies.
Now, the comparison was for all the grains of sand that are on Earth, you know, that's more than all the grains of sand that are on Earth.
So if we really think about that, I mean, it's an incredibly vast situation.
So just picturing.
This one other body that might be on the edge of our system doesn't seem so far fetched to me.
But again, that whole X imagery, I think that there's some process in it.
There's some thread in it as we go through because we have Planet X, you've got X files, you've got these messages that are X, you have Nixon telling Merritt about X, you have LBJ leaving this X letter, which is going to be.
And because it's left mysterious, there's a lot of confusion around what indeed this object may be.
And This is an important thing to bring up because there's a big, because people aren't astronomers, and there's a huge conflation of possible objects that we're looking at.
And one is a dwarf twin of our sun.
In fact, single solar systems are the exception.
They're not the norm.
The most common arrangement is a binary system or even trinary, but binary, I think, is the most common.
And so, what Muller and Rode were looking for was whatever this twin is out there that was disrupting something in the Kuiper Belt that was causing.
These periodic asteroid strikes to cause mass extinction events on Earth.
So there's that, the twin sun.
And then, so this planet nine thing sort of almost fits into that because the size of it and the mass of it seem like it could be sort of like a gas giant or like a dwarf, like a dark dwarf.
You know, what do they call?
They're called like super cool, is what they're called.
They're literally 200 degrees.
There are dwarf suns out there, and there are tons of them.
I think they're the majority of objects out there, of stars that are so.
They're not doing fusion or anything.
So they're just literally the temperature of a cup of tea out there.
And so very difficult to detect.
If they're not emitting light and they're barely emitting anything thermal, they're virtually impossible to find.
And that's what the difficulty is, you know, that would explain why they haven't found it.
Because it seems, you know, a lot of people thought they must be covering this up for whatever reason because they don't.
They don't want to alarm people.
Because if there's suddenly two suns, that could really kind of ruin somebody's firmament, possibly.
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Yeah, right, right.
Well, I think a good place to start with all of this would be certainly Isaac Asimov and some of the things that he got into on a fantasy basis about it is interesting.
Charles Hapgood's work and also Velikovsky's Worlds in Collision.
That gives you an idea that there was some problem, there was some issue.
In our solar system.
And a lot of people say it was a planet that was destroyed, and that's where we got the asteroid belt.
But apparently, there is some major cataclysm that happened in space that affected things on Earth, and that's where we get all these legends like the flood, et cetera.
But the culture that existed at that time on the planet was so advanced, and this is what sort of messes up the timetable because we're supposed to have developed from this very primitive state, but those cultures were so advanced that we're still catching up.
So, you know, there's a lot of issues there for us to sort out.
I think the thing is, you take a field like Egyptology, for example, it was largely developed in the 18th century.
There's no technology involved there.
They're working off the Rosetta Stone and they're working off of ideas that are embedded over two centuries ago.
And that's become a kind of an institutional thing where, you know, you have to pray to the gods of the institution in order to get any answers or to get them to change anything and they just don't want to.
So we've had incredible people like John Anthony West, who recently passed away.
Graham Hancock, who thank God is still with us.
And, you know, these are the people who've challenged the dating and the entire setup that we have as a history.
And I really think it's long past due that we examine things, you know, with satellites from above.
And they have this whole archaeo astronomy thing that we can do now.
We need to redate all of that stuff.
It's getting ridiculous.
Okay, what else you got?
Okay, Science Churchill, how good was the last X Files AI gang stalker episode?
And Rika, the hopeful Baldrist, will AI outsmart humans, especially considering the deliberate dumbing down of humanity?
I think that's what it's being built for.
Yeah, no, and especially with the 5G thing, controlling, you know, doing brainwave entrainment on you, dumming, you know, like controlling your physical actions, apparently.
I mean, there are patents for this.
Yes, absolutely.
That was an incredible episode.
I did get a chance to see it, and Olivia and I watched it.
It's fabulous.
About a week ago.
It is one of their real classics because it's also a theater piece, and that there's very little dialogue in the whole thing.
And it involves them being chased by a robotic.
Japanese sushi chef.
And I'll leave it at that.
But yeah, they're getting a lot across, I think.
They're pretty tuned in, and I think they're doing a good job with that.
You know, it's interesting to me.
I think a lot of people, even the people who make these movies and things that we've been seeing that kind of get the idea or get the picture.
Catherine Austin Fitz also brings this up to me that the Godfather movies in the 70s, they understood the entire US economic system.
As it stood there in the 70s, and you got it in that movie, and that very often things are revealed in movies.
So it's sort of like we understand what it is, and they put the idea out there, and then it's like, what do we do about it?
So in the case of AI, it's the less control it has over someone's independent, sovereign life, the better.
That isn't to say you have to withdraw from the technology.
But the idea is that there are points, you know, that they have this thing actually, which they talk about.
I can't think of the name of it now, but it's a tattoo where you can accept.
Bitcoin.
And they had this whole thing.
Actually, I was reading a story about it where they had these strip clubs that were set up using this kind of tattoo where they get all these Bitcoin things.
And then that way, the people who were coming in, you know, their spouse or their girlfriend couldn't track where they were or what they were up to and all the rest of it.
But I think when things get up close and personal on that level, that there, if there's a certain boundary in mind that you're keeping with the technology, and many people say, well, you know, I won't get chipped.
And that's their boundary.
And we all know about the incredible.
Story that Aaron Russo left us about where they wanted to go with the chipping when he had that conversation with Nicholas Rockefeller in 2003.
I think that they got a lot of what they wanted there through the smartphones.
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Oh, yeah.
Between that and 5G, they don't need to chip anybody.
Right.
Absolutely.
And remember the thing that Eleanor Freeland is stressing in the Space Fence books is that because they're having us ingest the particles from what they're doing, You know, what they did with the HARP experiments, et cetera, that we become kind of walking antennas.
And that's why the surveillance is down to the DNA level.
So, really, my solution for it is that there needs to be a conversation about it because the more that we know about it, the easier it is to defend against.
Whereas, if these things just go up and they're taken as a natural thing and let's get on with it, you know, that's when you're having problems with the driverless taxis had some problems recently.
You know, we're getting into fields with robot bartenders and driverless.
Cars, where we need to have a conversation about what's acceptable in society with robots replacing humans.
There has to be something that protects the civilians from the nefarious plans of the corporations, who, as we've seen with the Chinese suicide nets around the Apple factories, don't care anything about their workers except that they keep working.
Okay, what else you got?
Okay, Paul Nielsen.
Did you hear about the Norwegian explorer who was arrested for sailing to Antarctica?
They call him a terrorist.
He's being held in Norway.
Sad part is, he obtained permission from Argentinian authorities and has those papers to prove it.
I haven't heard that story.
It's pretty interesting, though.
I have.
Cliff High spoke about it on that show.
You know, the Norwegian guy.
He's supposed to be in Svalbard or something.
Anyway, yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
It's an excellent show.
I've been on there with Al before.
And that particular one, the last one was Cliff High, the part two.
Oh, my God.
They did some kind of a mega thing around it.
Oh, it was like.
I've never heard in my life.
I thought I've done long episodes.
That was a long episode.
Yeah.
He discussed that story there, and apparently he went there twice.
The first, and people died.
People died.
The people who went on land, they were anchored in a harbor in Antarctica, and a big storm came.
A few of the guys went on shore, and they were sure that the ones on the boats were the ones that weren't going to make it, but it was the ones on the boats that lived.
Did they die because, I mean, so were they right to keep them out of there?
Is that what you're saying?
Well, I think that that was just part of the story.
No, it had something to do with that they were hiking along a trail and they saw this pyramid complex, I guess, giant black pyramids.
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And I guess they found out that they had strayed from the path and that they would therefore have seen these structures and they got into trouble because of that.
That's what I thought.
This whole idea around ancient.
And there was a woman, like a Norwegian woman.
Explorer who also ran afoul of the authorities down there, and basically, they were surrounded by military.
There's clearly a massive U.S. military presence down there, according to that story.
And that you know, it was they were corralled by U.S. military very swiftly.
What else you got?
Uh, science Churchill again was asking about remote viewing the time capsule and whether you've asked anyone.
Yeah, well, I know some of the best remote viewers, some of the absolute best ones that have ever been around.
And so at this point, I don't have anything to report on that, but I probably will.
Okay.
Science Churchill again.
What if a time traveler stole or tampered with the time capsule?
Well, then we're just screwed.
Okay.
Everyone wants to know what's the status?
Stats with the National Archives and the Merritt Caddy rendezvous at the White House?
Well, we know that they have received the letter that Douglas Caddy sent.
Douglas Caddy is the former Watergate lawyer.
He sent it on behalf of Merritt and suggested that Merritt would give them the directions to the time capsule and that they could open it and that the message could be retained by the National Archives.
But the condition was that they would have to open it.
And read it aloud and distribute it to the public and the media.
Now, there have been a lot of interesting questions around what would happen if they want to kind of delete portions of it, et cetera, because it touches on national security.
You know, it's pretty interesting.
There are a number of questions around it, but the truth is, I think that there's a fundamental point there that's being made, which is Merritt has the information to lead them to the time capsule and he doesn't want to sensationalize it.
You know, it would take people like myself and Caddy going there with the National Archives person to the White House and taking the instructions, showing them where it is under the conditions, and they would have to agree to them.
I don't rule out the fact that the National Archives will respond in some way.
I just have no idea at this point what their plan is on it and if they're planning to give us any kind of positive response.
Of course, you'll hear it first here if we find out anything along that line.
I was able to do a follow up interview with Robert Merritt, which will be his final interview.
And I am going to put that out next week, which might fill out the picture a little bit better.
But the first interview, exclusive interview with him, is up there.
I do feel that this is where the nature of the recovery is, which is it's between the National Archives and Caddy's letter.
And I'm keeping a very close eye on it.
Okay.
There's just a follow up question about how would it serve them to actually release the message?
Think about all the things that we've been talking about with the Washington Post, for example, and the To the Stars thing, and the things that are being pushed under that Podesta umbrella.
There's a kind of a push there for the Clinton disclosure plan, whatever that was going to be.
Looks like it involved a lot of intelligence people.
Trump's version, you know, Trump has introduced some very fascinating things, opening the Space Council, putting Pence in charge of it.
He made the proposal to Congress to.
Have a space corps, which is a military unit dealing just with space, and that the air force would answer to them and not the other way around.
That got shot down in a number of congressional actions.
But you know, having that information be a part of the government would be important.
If it contains this breakthrough energy formula, that also could have worldwide effects.
And I understand that that letter would have a gigantic ripple effect, however, I mean, as the central.
I think that's what it was really about.
It was the energy independence.
Yeah.
America was dealing with the oil crisis.
Businesses got shut down.
There were lines for miles.
You couldn't buy gas.
It was pretty crazy.
And to be able to deliver energy independence in that situation, you would have been a hero.
So if you wanted to be a hero, that's what you'd want to do.
This is what he was moving toward.
But in terms of the government, Releasing it now, I don't think there's a real possibility there if they want to.
All these Arab powers going green like they are.
Yes, exactly.
This would actually help them to accomplish this and also get them out of the UFO secrecy wall mess that they've put themselves in for the past 75 years, which every attempt to break out of that, you know, the wall of secrecy is so dense that there are people inside there that will keep that wall going till the last day.
That's just who they are.
And it's going to take people inside working with people like us on the outside trying to get at that in order to arrive at a better place.
And certainly that information could be integrated into society.
Also, revealing the historical aspects.
You know, Trump is a Republican president, Nixon was a Republican president.
They obviously knew each other, as I showed in the letter earlier.
So there are reasons to suspect it's not a complete shutout.
There might be elements of there that were different kinds of disclosure, and this is also an important conversation is that you know, there's either disclosure of the real thing, which you don't really need officialdom to do it for you, right?
Or you have the fake alien invasion, you have Project Fire Sign, which is, I think, more along the lines of that's definitely what Hillary's advisor was talking about.
That's, I think, what the Podesta thing is about.
It's another global warming, it's another way to harvest money and to create fear and loathing.
Yes, absolutely.
No, there's a group in there that wants to use the UFO scare tactic.
And that's part of what To the Stars is all about, too.
It's about fear.
No question.
AA tip, it's a threat program, right?
As a matter of fact, what's interesting is that they put it out as the aerospace thing, and it was actually aviation is the name of the program.
But aviation apparently sounded too pat, and so it became the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program in media reports.
But that's not the actual name, it's aviation.
Aviation is just like any Tom, Dick, and Harry with a.
It can be aviation.
It's like the helicopter threat of 2018.
You have one of those things, those lawnmowers strapped to your back and be.
I do.
I have a little mini drone over here.
So I guess I'm a threat.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Robert Brown, what allegedly happened to the being, by the way, still alive?
Good question.
Everyone wants to know.
What's fascinating is we have the interesting thread of testimony from Linda Moulton Howe and Grant Cameron that in the 80s it was being floated around that these reporters could get an interview with an alien being.
And this became, this really rolled into the incredible fake alien autopsy, if you remember that from the mid 90s.
These stories rolling around that there was going to be some kind of a breakthrough.
But one of these, and I think they eventually came out as the movie Paul, if you remember this, where they did this whole movie about this gray who escapes.
But what I think is interesting about this 80s period is there is another push there for disclosure.
And interestingly enough, it involves all the same people that were involved in the 74.
Push around the documentary UFOs Past, Present, and Future.
So, this was the thing that was being floated out there.
And at one point, Linda Moulton Howe was offered to go to Texas to get involved in this thing and interview this alien.
That never happened.
And she didn't know if she was being put on by the Pentagon trying to throw her off from her cattle mutilation stories.
So, it is fascinating.
That being, we have no way of knowing if he's still alive.
But at that point, He was apparently still alive because Nixon was saying, We've had him for 20 years.
Jack Russell, did Cooper communicate with the alien?
Well, see, it's pretty interesting.
The alien had telepathic, powerful telepathic abilities, and they had learned to communicate with it, but I don't think that Cooper himself did.
He was very freaked out by the Gray's appearance, and he didn't expect that they were going to show it to him in the first place.
But Cooper's a very significant person because of what he saw and the people around him, he noticed that people who were in that unit who had interaction with the alien disappeared or had been bumped off in that black project.
And his CIA superior said, I'm going to actually fake your death, and you're going to show up as this different guy working at a San Diego gas station and start your life all over again.
So he was meant to be bumped off as all those other people who had interacted with the being were because they didn't want any loose ends around.
Very interesting guy.
And what I think is particularly important, again, is that he had three meetings with Nixon.
There's a weird three meeting thing going on.
And one of the things that Merritt told me about Nixon is that he did everything in threes, including the instructions that he gave to Merritt, he would give them in threes.
So, you know, Nixon's using some kind of a superstition or is it a mystical thing he learned as a Quaker?
Whatever it is, there's a three theme that we see going on.
Over and over again.
I have a question for you about.
He said that Merritt said that they had very carefully, I don't know if the word was negotiated, and that's what I wanted to understand.
They had acquired this mathematical formula that would confer energy independence, right?
That's what Nixon told him.
Yes, it would make any nation the most powerful nation in the world.
Right, right.
So, exactly how did they acquire this from?
From the alien.
They had learned how to communicate, but he didn't tell them how they had learned how to communicate.
So, the alien, out of the niceness of his heart, gave him a formula?
I mean, do we have any details on that?
No, I would say, I mean, the idea that the alien, the being, was working with the scientists at Los Alamos is interesting because it ties in with what Cooper said.
If you understand the Cooper story, the Merritt story makes more sense.
That's the way I've put those two together.
What Cooper is saying, Nixon in 58 is getting direct access to the CIA Blue Book program observing the alien.
Later, he's telling Merritt, we got this formula under my administration.
So he's taking credit for it.
So it's his knowledge, it's his expertise around working with the UFO file that has obtained this.
He's worked with the scientists, and they're going to bring it forward and say, we have this formula for energy independence.
What I'm guessing from that process is that.
You know, part of the information that Nixon wants to disclose is I'm the one who worked on this for 20 years, and we finally, working with these scientists, got these responses that gave us this formula.
And the formula was kind of the whole crux of the message story, in a way, because it's the formula that is the thing that makes us the greatest nation in the world, it gives us the potential to be.
And let's remember that a person who has that was Henry Kissinger because he got a copy of the message.
And Kissinger's still alive.
All right.
Jamma Majumbo, has Kissinger been contacted?
And if not, why not?
There have been attempts to contact Kissinger, not by me, but I will report anything that comes out of that.
Okay.
Hazel Blair, is it possible to induce a visitation from an ET?
Alexandra.
Stephen Greer thinks so.
He's got protocols for what he calls a CE5.
They get together in the desert and they do mantras, and I guess they have flashlights or something.
He says that's his business.
That's basically what he does for a living.
I think the question is are you ready?
And I do think that there are off world civilizations that can be contacted.
For me, it's always been spontaneous, and it's always like, what?
You know, it's like I didn't.
Well, you've had a number of UFO sightings.
Yeah.
There's kind of a theme about it going on in your life.
Yeah, but the theme is that there is no theme.
They're never the same shape practically.
Right.
They were like weirdly shaped, but like every kind of movement, color, shape.
I would say that.
One's hounding me.
Like, I don't feel like an abductee or something.
My impression is that the more open you are to an experience like that, the more likely it is to happen, for sure.
So the question is are you ready?
Okay.
That's what I'd ask myself.
How much does spiritism and the new age influence the paranormal ufology world?
A lot.
Well, the thing is, there's a mix there.
There's a weird mix.
There's a hardcore group that's like a nuts and bolts variety of UFO investigators that would be like Stanton Friedman.
That if you said something like to Stanton that these beings are about love and higher consciousness, that conversation wouldn't go so far.
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But Stanton understands all about the secrecy aspect and how we try to redevelop the technology and all the rest of it.
So he understands the broad stroke of what was going on there.
And he understands the kind of relations part because he studied the Betty and Barney Hill story with Betty's niece, Kathleen Marden.
Then there's a whole other group of people.
Gigi Young would be one, and she's a frequent guest on this show and an amazing, just an amazing psychic and a teacher.
And her thing is that these entities, the ETs, are part of her reality, that she interacts with them.
So, you know, that is a different kind of approach.
And what's fascinating is the people on the government side who've gone into it have learned over time that it's a consciousness thing, is what it comes down to when you're dealing with the UFO factor.
And Grant Cameron gets into that a lot.
I think it's absolutely true, which is you have to be on a certain consciousness level in order to communicate.
With them, and that they are coming from a higher consciousness generally.
So, you know, it's a tricky thing because, of course, there's different types.
But in terms of the groups and how they interact and intersperse, I would say on one hand, you have these paranormal type people who are interested in psychic phenomena and have a more kind of spiritual outlook on it, and they accept, you know, this larger reality, like Jean Dixon and her incredible.
Thing.
And here's that picture one more time of her with the crystal ball.
It's so great.
I can't resist.
Just an amazing person there.
But this is how she viewed it.
She viewed it as they were coming here to bring great secrets to mankind.
They were going to move humanity forward.
It was going to be the age of Aquarius, you know, all this kind of thing.
Then there are other people who just have a very scientific kind of bottom line about it.
And then in the middle, you have groups like intelligence groups and marketing groups manipulating things and people coming along and saying, you know, I'm the spiritual wizard from the UFO.
And manipulating people and creating cults.
So there's lots of different variations, but certainly they have this interpenetrable impact on each other.
Okay.
Okay.
Bendigger Zero, DJ, in your opinion, are lights in the sky related or unrelated to hardware flying saucers?
I think that, as we've seen with trace cases, when a UFO lands and it flattens the ground and then nothing grows there, there's obviously a physical impact.
It's a physical craft.
So, for people to say, I think it's kind of an excuse to just say, oh, it's an interdimensional thing.
I don't really have to think about it because I don't want to think about an actual ship that's physical.
It's superior to us coming here and flattening the grass.
You have to go with what's in front of you.
However, there are aspects, whether it's plasma, interdimensional aspects, that would suggest things come over from a different density level, visit here, and leave.
So it's a multi dimensional question, but I would say that on those multi levels, you have to.
Definitely assume the nuts and bolts aspects of crafts because they have a physical impact.
And when there are things like crash retrievals, it doesn't disappear.
You know, we get something and we try to redevelop it.
And we've heard of thousands or hundreds of cases of crash retrievals.
I don't know.
How do you feel about that, Alexandra?
Yeah, I think there's probably everything under the sun, so to speak.
You know, you probably have plasmic things, you have things maybe phasing in between.
Parallel timelines in between, you know, you have both the horizontal and the vertical.
Well, it's interesting because when we have people who have ayahuasca experiences and they see grays, what's going on there?
Right.
It must put you into a particular pattern, brainwave pattern in that.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Olivia, you're up.
Lee Beltman again.
What does CJ think of scalar tech and 5G?
And B2 skull weapons.
Voice to skull.
That's voice of God technology.
And this is in use.
I mean, we heard about things like this when they were doing the Gulf War, they would project Muhammad.
Alexander, you have a little story about that.
That's related to fire sign, once again.
That's right.
Fire sign.
Voice of God is part of it.
And as are the holographic laser representations of the deity or UFOs or what have you.
They had this whole thing where Alexa, you know, was doing that little Amazon thing and it was laughing on its own.
This home appliance that sort of went awry, right?
Well, what I find interesting really is that it's getting to a point where the technology can influence us the way that, like, an astral or an etheric.
It's like, Alexa, can you do a UFO evasion?
Exactly.
I think it's interesting, and I almost think it's a publicity stunt that they have all these doing the weird maniacal laughter.
Of people like, hey, Alexa, what is that?
I want to get into it, you know.
And, you know, there was this headline in the Washington Post, and it was like, you know, why is Alexa a thing?
You know, it's like, it's so weird because these newspapers and these blogs and stuff, they're trying to get hip, you know, and like just the say nothing headlines.
And what I'm finding more and more as we look into it is what that is all masking.
Is there's an incredible control structure being built to centralize the economy, to centralize the media we get, to centralize our thinking.
And that is all coming through the technology.
So the technology is neutral, right?
You can do so many things with it.
But if your intentions are to centralize, herd, and harvest a group of people, and you're a small group of people trying to figure out how to do that, then the technology gives you carte blanche in a way that people like Napoleon and stuff like that could only dream of 200 years ago.
So when we look at these situations, we have to say that we're in an unusual situation now that you could say, well, yeah, there were people like Nero in the past and Caligula, or even in our century, the 20th century.
We had Hitler and people like that.
It's true, but none of them had access to technology like this.
So we're in a very special, unique situation that requires us to go a lot deeper, which is why people like Catherine Austin Fitz, Joseph Farrell, Alexandra Bruce, the things we do at Dark Journalist, these are the core information that you're going to need because it takes a level headed look at very deep things.
So we're going to have to go deep and sometimes we're going to have to go dark.
That's why there's dark journalism.
That's why I do Dark Journalist because.
When we get into that space, you're going to be dealing with drug running, you're going to be dealing with manipulation, mind control, centralization.
I mean, there's so many deep things that are not comfortable subjects to get into.
But we're going to have to have a real advantage, I think, to really understand what these things are.
Voice to skull technology, I mean, that type of targeting technology, when you want to get rid of somebody, it does exist.
And if you want to drive people crazy, I mean, you know.
If you have a particular dissident group that you want to do that to, hey, look, when we sent our own diplomats to Cuba after we opened up an embassy there and they all started getting sick and some of them were breaking down with psychosis, they were being hit by energy weapons because somebody did not want the United States and Cuba to have this friendly relationship.
Right.
And these psychotronic weapons, it's old.
It's really old.
And it's between Russia and the United States.
They had to evacuate.
The U.S. Embassy in Moscow in 1975 because they were getting bombarded with psychotronic frequencies.
Well, it's interesting, right?
So we had MKUltra and there's EMKUltra, right?
And we have entrainment technology, which is like more of a fluff thing that you can use for people to buy things or they use that kind of thing in supermarkets so people don't shoplift.
I mean, there's all kinds of different uses for these things, but the thing is, our subconscious is pliable.
I guess that's the main point.
And there's technologies that can affect it.
So is it real?
Yes.
You have to walk that line between not being too paranoid about it, but also being aware of it and being able to defend yourself on certain levels against that.
And with the deployment of 5G, it really becomes relevant because, especially if it's all hooked up to a centralized global information grid, it becomes eminently hackable.
And even if our own government isn't the bad guys, which is ridiculous, they are the bad guys.
100%.
There are certainly other governments that are capable of being just as bad or worse.
Definitely.
Dan Gusevon says Uri Geller was made extra psychic by a dentist hypnosis.
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Don't know his name.
Interesting.
I talked to Russell Targ about Uri Geller, and he said he was absolutely convinced from the experiments that they did that Uri Geller had real psychic ability.
Now, of course, he's the big bending spoons guy.
Now, he also said he's a magician.
And if he can get away with doing a trick without using his psychic ability, he will.
This is where I think we get into that interesting territory.
But guys like Geller are interesting because in the 70s, you had public celebrities who were psychic.
And so this is kind of fascinating, you know.
And you had people out there trying to debunk them, like the amazing Randy, you know, of course, who ran his own scams.
But it is interesting that the cultural influence that we see coming in through the 60s and 70s, the raising of the consciousness around the idea of mediums, this is really something that we've inherited.
Now, here into 2018, and we should be able to take it up a level.
And so I hope that answers your question.
What else you got?
I never heard of the dentist's story.
John Guilfoyle, do you have any thoughts regarding Morris K. Jessup and his possible relationship as a variable in this equation?
Well, Jessup was the first guy to figure out, and he features in the Philadelphia experiment.
In the way, well, his book does.
He did the first one.
Well, he figured out, though.
They say the reason he was bumped off is because he figured out the Santee Gravity thing that was mentioned in his book.
And he got on their radar, in a sense, the Navy's radar.
And he was marked for death because they found him on the highway and they had plugged the exhaust pipe through the bottom of his car.
And so he died of asphyxiation.
But Jessup wrote the case for the UFO, and it's the groundbreaking book.
That could have mainstreamed it back in 1950.
That was highly intellectual, well reasoned, well researched, well presented.
And this is another thing that we have to understand people have been killed over the UFO file secrecy for decades whenever they got close.
And I include John Kennedy among that group.
So the UFO file is the highest national security secret that the United States government has.
Yeah.
So we have to think of it in those terms.
So when you're dealing with it, you're dealing with a very high level of protected secrecy on a government level, and they've wiped people out who got really close to it.
Likewise, disinformation and manipulation, like Fire Sign and like.
Well, disinformation, I think, is their preferred tool.
I don't think their first option is to get rid of somebody.
I mean, in Jessup's case, I think he was getting really close and he was starting to figure this out.
I think the aspect around Allende writing all those inscriptions on his book and figuring out the Philadelphia experiment thing kind of put him on the bullseye for these groups inside who were like, Where are they getting this information?
When did Morris K. Jessup die?
Because the Vero edition of the case for the UFO with Allende's inscriptions in the margins.
Which tell the tale of the Philadelphia experiment.
It was sort of like the cue of the 50s.
It is, right.
Yeah, exactly.
So, what the Navy intelligence did is they hired a small publishing company in central Texas, the Vero Publishing Company, to publish, I think, 100 copies of this book with the Allende.
Right.
And it's really using, it's 1955, and it's using a lot of space age words.
I don't think we'd been in orbit yet or anything at that point.
And it was just speaking it in a kind of Star Trek language, like an insider kind of slangy kind of way of talking about things.
And there are people that suspect, and basically, you know, from work I did, there's a lot of reason to suspect that the whole Philadelphia experiment in the Philadelphia Naval Yards with the USS Aldridge is one big fake story.
That there are similar things, that there were maybe experiments done, but they weren't about radar, because radar was not the thing.
You know, what we really had our problem is that there were German subs off the coast, hundreds of them.
Well, invisibility definitely is something that Einstein tried to help the government with.
I think that that part is legit.
And we have weird stories about people being projected into walls as far away as Italy when they were using this technology.
Certainly, there's something to it, but it is interesting.
It's one of those legends that kind of.
It wasn't the thing that they're talking about.
It was like three counter rotating fields, and it was something about.
Well, according to Bob Beckwith, who was an electrical engineer who was commandeered by the Navy, he was a civilian who was commandeered by the Navy to do experiments on an experimental minesweeper because he said the real problem and the real challenge that the US was facing was sonar in invisibility and that that's what they were trying to create because there were so many German subs.
Yeah, I can definitely see that that was their object.
That would be very interesting.
But then he said that what he encountered.
We're, you know, on the crew of the boat that he was working on as a civilian, the enlisted sailors were saying, Oh my God, there was the craziest experiment on this boat two weeks ago.
We got teleported, you know, suddenly we looked out the window when we're back in Philadelphia.
We look out the window again and we're like, you know.
Well, I guess the real question is 70 years later, can we use that teleportation much more easily, all of Star Trek?
I mean, that's really what it comes down to.
But if somebody wants to look into Jessup, you know, Jessup, Frank Edwards, and John Keel are a continualist.
Thread.
Frank Edwards also died under mysterious circumstances, and Keel lived a long, normal life.
But I think all of their work really, and Keel is known for the Mothman prophecies.
Olivia.
Najat Madri, could have Nixon been part of Nimza?
Oh, that's fascinating.
Najat, it's great to have you out there, by the way.
You always ask excellent questions.
Thank you.
Nimza is something that Walter Bosley came up with.
In his research, and those books are fascinating.
But it relates to a German group that was kind of like an aero club that was doing early airships and things.
And they sent representatives over here to California.
And he rolls it into all these different things.
But I would say this that the Nimza tie in, what I don't get from Bosley's work yet is understanding the Nazi aspect of how that works.
So, because I'm so locked into how Farrell sees it, and I think Bossley's coming in from the 19th century.
So, I think it is an interesting question.
And certainly, we know that Nixon was a main player, having been spotted there by Prescott Bush and promoted to become vice president by Bush.
He was a major paperclip asset for that whole program.
So, he understood what we were doing with the German Nazi scientists and bringing them over.
So, it's a fascinating question for sure.
Okay, Lucy McKay, please ask if there could be three time capsules.
I'll tell you what's interesting and what's odd about you asking that.
Although I think the time capsule is singular, what I found in my conversation with Merritt was that Nixon doing all these things in threes, I kept wondering okay, Kissinger has a copy and there's the time capsule.
Who's got the third copy if he did everything in threes?
So you and I are on the same beam there, whoever asked that question.
And there is something interesting about that because.
I believe from my conversations with Merritt, but I wouldn't say it's confirmed, but it's pretty strong speculation that there is another member involved in this who may have a copy also.
What else we got?
Okay.
No name.
Please ask if they are familiar with the work of Sean and Clay Pickering on Source X.
And if so, what are their thoughts on the subject?
Please let them know there are four Pickering brothers.
Interviews that were done in January 2018, I think, on the Jeff Rentz channel.
Oh, interesting.
Well, Jeff Rentz, yeah, sometimes he'll trip into those interesting interviews.
I don't know.
The Pickerings aren't ringing a bell.
Are they ringing a bell for you, Alexandra?
I've never heard of this.
Yeah, so we'd have to get more information on it.
But if you want to email it to me, send it to info at darkjournalist.com and I'll look at it.
Thank you.
Wow, we have a great crowd, by the way.
The questions are fantastic, too.
Let's take.
We'll do about 10 more minutes of questions and then we'll wrap it up.
What a fantastic episode.
These are really, you know, it's fascinating because we have so many interesting things to talk about, but then the questions that you guys bring in are equally as fascinating.
So, you know, it really makes the evening complete.
Okay, Olivia, you.
David Jasek, does Daniel think the details of the Greta Treaty are in Eisenhower's time capsule?
And Paul Nielsen says, what year was the Greta Treaty signed?
It's as I understand it, it was signed in 54 and it relates to the fact that the grays can abduct X amount of people as long as they tell the government who's being abducted.
And, um, that you know, the idea that we have some kind of treaty, I think, is very interesting.
I don't think it's outside the realm of possibilities, but that is literally somewhere where we don't have any good information.
Even the I have some interesting information.
Oh, yeah, yeah, let me just say this.
Yeah.
Sam Friedman, who we know is a very nuts and bolts kind of a guy, he, however, told me that there was substantial evidence that Eisenhower had a meeting with this off world representative at an Air Force base.
And so, you know, for someone who goes deep into the material and goes deep into it along this line, that is kind of fascinating.
Okay, go to your treaty information.
Yeah.
Well, my friend Glenn Pruitt, RIP.
Yes.
His father was allegedly a witness.
He signed, he was a co signer of the treaty.
And he was disowned by his father.
His father refused to speak to him for the rest of his life.
What do you think is in the treaty?
I think that's the story.
It's about, he said, you sold out the human race, was what his grandfather would tell his father.
You know, I don't speak to your father because he sold out the human race.
I'll tell you what's interesting a guy who was kind of ahead of his time on this, although the information came out in a very uneven way.
Fashion was Bill Cooper.
And Bill Cooper eventually disowned the whole subject, of course.
But I do find it interesting that in the 1980s he's talking about this stuff and seems pretty knowledgeable about Majestic 12 and this treaty.
So there was something around about this information.
And the bottom line is I think it's possible for sure that there's some kind of treaty with these off world cultures.
And I would say Eisenhower is a good candidate for sure.
Okay.
My TV, who was flying around in those big black triangle UFOs through the 90s?
Off world civilization.
No, I think it was, those are human.
Well, it's true.
There's, you know.
That's what it is, the TR 3B is what it's called.
Yeah.
I mean, it's interesting.
Let's formulate the question this way How many of the craft that we see floating around out there do we think are human technology being used by different militaries versus genuine off world civilizations?
It's probably an easier question to answer.
In the grand scheme of things.
And I would say that you have a whole history before we caught up anywhere near what they can do of these sightings.
I read one from 1893 earlier.
And what's interesting, I found cases, I even found that Betty Hill's grandmother had sightings and things like that.
So that's going back to the 1930s.
There are cases that are much older.
So certainly these things existed.
And Here's another thing around this.
When we look at things like the stealth, the U 2 spy planes, the stealth technology, you know, they were secret for a while, but they got known.
So when people are seeing all these sauces everywhere, you think, oh, 10 years later, they tell everybody, you know, like the CIA said, oh, that was us just testing out a balloon.
You know, it's 70 years later.
There's no explanation for UFOs.
There's no explanation.
Not that some are purely, or I think that the black triangles, you have Paul of Violette saying that he saw.
The paperwork that described what that technology is.
It's masers, it's focused microwaves that exert like a push down.
And basically, at each point on the triangle, that's where the maser beams are pointing down.
And it must be like being in front of a microwave oven if you're right underneath one of those beams.
So I can't imagine that it's very healthy for the people below these flying objects, you know.
I think it is interesting.
There's no question that we've reached a developmental stage that when we go into overdrive on something, you know, like the Belgian wave or all those triangle UFOs, it could very well be our craft trying things out.
But to do it over populated areas, you know, it's tricky for me.
Abduction Waves and Craft Testing00:06:45
I happen to think that those would be very secret things unless they were actually testing public reaction.
So it's a tricky thing when you get into that territory.
But I will say this the Phoenix Lights has always seemed to me to be a genuine off world civilization.
And I think from the descriptions on it, that for me, that is the closest thing we've had to a large scale sighting seen by lots of people hovering, hanging over a major city.
If that happened now, possibly the entire UFO wall of secrecy would tumble because of the amount of technology we have to record an incident like that.
Absolutely.
All right.
Chio Marley just said I've heard from so many sources that the treaty was broken when perhaps the Phil Schneider incident occurred, so that now both sides are sort of running rogue on their agreement.
Yes.
I think that that really makes a lot of sense.
I remember, you know, I've had conversations with the group that predicted the October 13th, 2010 incident, the Transcenders, through Stan Fulham.
And they told me something similar, which was that now we have a much more militaristic stance against them, which is why the sightings in America have gone down and where they've aimed most of their targets are in Africa and South America.
And we do see there's all of this kind of ongoing contacte activity.
Uh, Grant Cameron talks about Zendras, for example.
All this is coming out of South America, so um, it is interesting to think that you know our own relationship has deteriorated from where it started.
And uh, you know, given our militaristic aims and the fact that this is maybe something that they were trying to dissuade us from in the first place, I can see where that relationship would be frayed.
I don't know what you think on that one, Alexander.
Well, I mean, again, this is another case, another question that seems to dovetail with the story I heard about Merckx trying to.
Kidnap hubrids, you know?
Because hubrids, you know, if you read the David Jacobs book, they do have some contact still with the motherships, but they're sort of like learning how to live as human beings.
And then you have bounty hunters who are trying to hijack, you know, trying to kidnap them to harvest their DNA for human projects, you know?
Well, I think what's interesting about this is.
We're in a situation where the traffic levels around the UFO thing seem to go up and down.
That is, it seems to happen in waves.
Even if you go through history, since 1975, it's a wave.
Things get quiet for a while, then there's a wave.
They have their own timetables that they're operating on.
But it seems to me that the kind of intense activity around Grays abducting people and how the culture caught on to it in the 90s.
Um, that doesn't seem to be as prevalent a method for obtaining information as it used to be.
No real good researcher has told me why on that, but there's something going on there that I think is kind of fascinating, which is the actual abduction uh level seems to have gone down substantially.
So I think that's something to keep an eye on.
Uh, Jack Russell has two questions Is there any validity to Paula Harris's story of seeing beings at Mount Shasta?
And has DJ or Alexander stood inside a crop circle?
And if so, what did they feel?
Linda Moulton Howe stood in a crop circle and she said it was like a vibrating marshmallow.
So.
I never have.
Yeah.
Paula Harris does all kinds of research and.
I met her back in the 90s.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
She's been doing it for a long time.
So, you know, I.
I would follow, I haven't followed so much of her research to be honest with you, but I think that she's tracked some good cases.
I think that she tracked the friendship case, if I'm not mistaken, which was absolutely fascinating.
I did an episode on the friendship case out of Italy with Timothy Goode in 2014.
And, you know, there's a very hardcore researcher Goode going into that story and tracking it over time.
And this is a story that mostly happened in the 50s and 60s.
And then it came out, and the people came forward 30 years later.
It's a very unusual, strange story about very human looking ETs that were advanced.
But you know, there are these stories, even the Vals Thor story, they all carry a similar theme.
There's the story of Lanulos and the Indrid Cold associated with Point Pleasant in West Virginia, which is such an interesting story because Indrid Cold was somebody that a number of people observed.
And he was somebody who came up, who was very human looking, but appeared in this craft and stopped this driver on the highway.
And this is during all the craziness that was going on in West Virginia at the time, which eventually.
Turned into the whole, you know, this is all these Mothman sightings and all this UFO stuff.
And Keel covered that in Mothman Prophecies, and they made a movie out of it, actually.
But I still think there are these, you know, there are these interactions with this intelligence.
And I think it's portraying itself as an ordinary guy very often, you know.
And this is even the whole thing about the coverage of the Men in Black is quite unusual because these are people who've had these experiences, and they say, well, these people, Come in, they're dressed a certain way, they look uncomfortable in their own skin, they seem somewhat Asian in their appearance.
You know, and the stories, you know, every time you go through somebody who's had a sighting, these people were showing up.
So there's this human aspect, whether it's being projected by some intelligence, and that's why it's a little awkward.
There is something to this, I think, that is absolutely fascinating.
And that's why the whole Lanulos book and Indrid Cold and all that, I think, is such an interesting chapter.
So, yeah.
Chris Davies, does DJ know of Trevor Paglin and his patches from Secret Projects?
Trevor Paglin, it does not ring a bell.
Trump, Aliens, and Moon Landing00:12:58
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Alexandra?
Yeah, I never heard.
That's an interesting one.
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Okay.
Mr. Black Productions, why did LBJ stand down?
Why did he not pursue the case?
Well, if you're talking about the case of Nixon tampering with peace in Vietnam, it's pretty interesting because he might have felt like he had a card to deal against Nixon and he may have wanted to blackmail him, as LBJ was known to.
To blackmail.
Now, as I understand it, there was a game of blackmail going on there with Nixon sending messages back saying, like, oh, that's interesting, you know, you and Helms working together on all the Bay of Pigs stuff and Kennedy being so against it, you know, and playing this kind of shell game.
So I think, you know, what we have to remember about Nixon is he's often villainized.
And I think that he earned the title, but he was a president who was under siege by the intelligence agencies because.
They were not in favor of his policies.
And he was doing a number of things that were also upsetting the Rockefellers by not going along with early versions of GATT, as the GATT of that period.
And when we got GATT in the 90s, of course, it ruined economies.
But that's exactly the design of the corporations.
They really got what they wanted under Clinton and into Bush.
But I think we have to look at Nixon a little bit differently and see him in a Kennedy type light in this sense, which is that he was a president who was looking.
To maintain the power of the presidency against the infringing grasp of the intelligence agencies trying to take everything over, which of course eventually they did.
I also think it's very interesting that the advanced energy technology that he was talking about, that he wanted to be known and go down in history as a hero for negotiating this out of the alien that's in custody over there, you know, that's one thing that's a no no to release that information.
Yes, if he was heading toward that, you might have thought, hey, they were going to set him up in Watergate.
Oh, they impeached him.
Yeah, right, right.
They were going to take him down for that.
The point is, though, the other thing that could be that the person is asking is why didn't LBJ use it?
Why didn't LBJ use the information that he had revealing the alien presence himself?
LBJ was such a deep state player that part of the reason that JFK was assassinated because he didn't want to play ball on this and he wanted to remove the CIA.
As a power broker and the whole thing, LBJ was just the opposite.
They called him Senator NASA.
He was deep in with the aerospace companies.
And one of the things that Jim Garrison concluded when he went really deep with a real investigative ability, the ability to subpoena people and all the rest, he decided that the conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy originated inside of the aerospace companies.
That's a crucial thing.
And of course, when we were getting the Kennedy releases from Trump, In October 26, 2017, the crucial eight pages of the Garrison file, which was the secret file, were completely wiped out.
So you can't see what the CIA was doing to Garrison's investigation in those pages.
I think there's good reason for that because they were thwarting his investigations into the aerospace companies, and in particular, the things he was looking at, like Hughes and he was looking at Lockheed.
So, yeah, it's a deep story.
CB Renard, your opinions are a Clifford Stone's incredible alien contact experiences in a cave in Vietnam during the war.
Well, you know, I know the extraordinary Clifford Stone experiences.
The war part is interesting because I did understand that some of this related to him helping to set a grave free.
But for some reason, I'm relating this back to his crash retrieval work in Area 51.
So the cave part is throwing me a little bit.
But if the question centrally is, should we believe Clifford Stone?
His stories are very consistent.
And we do know that there were crash retrieval teams.
So it makes sense to me that at some point somebody from one of those teams would come out and say something.
And I think that he's taken, it hasn't been a comfortable thing, let's say, to come out and talk about those things.
He's somebody who would be one of the more credible whistleblowers, I would say.
But there's no way to verify his story.
Okay, Thunder 65.
What does DJ make of the Apollo press conference on return from moon landing?
Well, I included a snippet of that in my Nixon video.
I think it's all very fascinating.
I think the moon landing, the abandoning of the entire Apollo program, the things that went on, the black budget aspects that went on, the strangeness about getting to the moon and getting off the moon.
You know, the weird thing about them having this idea that Stanley Kubrick shot the moon landing and all that.
I don't, I'm not one of those people who thinks we didn't go to the moon.
I just, I think the technology that was used to get there remained a black project and they didn't want to share that with the world.
And somehow they were able to do it through this method of going from the Apollo program into these shuttles.
And it doesn't make sense to me because the vision that Kennedy had.
Of bringing the world together and having the Soviets join us in a moon race and opening this whole thing up just dwindled into nothing after this incredible expanse of reaching the moon.
And then we have all these unusual things with the shuttle later and all the disasters with it.
And we're successful with some probes that go to Mars and things like that.
But what is it that happened to the space program in the 70s?
I mean, it's an entire mystery.
So, yeah, there are so many anomalies there.
My God.
What do you think, Alexandra?
Yeah, well, he's talking about that press conference in particular.
And I don't know if you have ever seen it.
They really do look so depressed.
You know, they don't look like guys who just got back from the moon.
Yeah, I think it's interesting.
Edgar Mitchell and Gordon Cooper both lived the rest of their lives trying to get the government to open up and trying to get people aware of what was going on with the UFO file and these off world civilizations.
And Cooper wrote a letter, actually, to the United Nations.
And that's on record about them knowing people in the defense industry who'd had these experiences and the types of things that they were threatened with.
That if these things, if the secrecy could come down, if we could kind of acknowledge this off world presence, then the society, the culture could move forward is basically the thrust of it.
And Edgar Mitchell lived his life and developed the free organization for the same reason.
Of course, people like John Mack came forward with the same type of.
You know, academic or, you know, personal credential.
And, you know, I mean, this is the nature of the thing.
These people come forward, they give these gifts to society, and the wall of secrecy remains.
So this is where we're at.
Jack Russell again.
Has DJ heard of the spider beings in Vietnam?
Reference Carrie Cassidy.
Yes.
She's done so much work about it.
And obviously, that's where you'd go for that kind of thing.
I, you know, listen, when it comes to dealing with, Alien intelligences, off world civilizations.
I don't think that we know the complete picture.
And, you know, but when I think of spiders, I think very often of astral type experiences because when people have gone out of body and things like that, they encounter these types of beings in different realms.
So that's more where my mind goes.
Okay, we'll take two more questions.
Actually, we're running out of questions.
This isn't a question, but I thought it was interesting and I wanted to throw it in there.
Perfect timing.
Ben Degger Zero says they say Eisenhower did a lot of UFO doodles, he was into it.
He did.
He did.
That person is absolutely right.
And these are strange things that he would do in his spare time.
And his aides came forward years later and said, yeah, he liked to draw these spaceships.
So it is fascinating.
And Eisenhower was in a very unique position because he understood the battle of, you know, he understood World War II, which was the most brutal of all the wars.
And he'd been through it, and he won.
And so when he understood, and the things that he talked about is we have to take that money and build roads, he built the highway system.
We need to build schools, et cetera.
And he really worked hard to stay out of the war thing.
And I think that the CIA was really pushing and saying, look, you know, the Soviets are dominating.
We have to do these various things.
So he sort of sanctioned these operations in Iran and Guatemala, et cetera.
They kind of kept the balance of power, but they didn't live up to the high ideals of the United States.
And so, you know, I think he was in a tricky position.
But when it came to the alien aspect and the UFO file, I think he had a deep, Feeling that we needed to get a strong handle on this.
And I think he passed that along to Kennedy.
And I think you can hear echoes of it in his famous military industrial complex speech.
But certainly what Cooper said about Ike threatening them with the people at Area 51 and the CIA with bringing the Eighth Army down there to get what he wanted, you know, that's what a military guy would do.
He's not going to take no for an answer.
And he had those kinds of connections that he could pull that off.
So I think he was all in all an extraordinary president.
Ghost Recon, how does DJ think Trump has affected disclosure?
I think Trump is more interested in disclosure than people give him credit for because he sees it as an advantage.
He understands now, as we've seen from his actions with the Space Corps, with opening the Space Council, and really even his most recent speech about space in a press conference recently, just a couple of days ago, that he's really looking to the opportunities in space.
Look, we have a space economy.
I've got this right here.
This Solari report is two years old.
These are the headlines that we're starting to see now.
This is how advanced Catherine Austin Fitz and her work is.
You've got space tourism, you've got SpaceX up there, you've got space mining, you have all of these economic things happening there.
The economy on Earth is going to move at a certain pace.
The economy in space is opening up.
That's a whole new frontier.
And when we get up there, we're going to have more of a bird's eye.
Especially with space tourism, looking at these craft that interact and come into our planet.
And what are you going to do?
Tell people that they're all from SpaceX or whatever?
I mean, it's going to get ridiculous.
So I do think that there are conversations that take place.
And I think that Trump is more of a player on this than people would give him credit.
I think generally, you know, I disagree with people who say the president is at the heart of the UFO cover up.
I don't think so.
I think the president is, since Kennedy, Trying to grasp back at the UFO file, which has fallen into the hands of a quasi deep state aspect.
And, you know, as a result, I think we're looking at intelligence factors and money factors that are controlling that on a corporate level, where it was transferred out a long time ago.
And these guys are trying to get their hands back on it.
And I believe that Trump is trying to get his handle on it, just the way that Clinton was using this Podesta initiative and the whole flunky thing with Tom DeLong and all the rest of it.
Simon Parks and Ant People00:09:13
This is what they've been up to.
Okay.
What are you laughing at?
I love this question.
Somebody's cracking you up.
Pinky Stars.
Has DJ heard of the ant beings in the San Luis Valley?
No, I haven't.
How about you, Alexandra?
Ant beings.
No.
Wow.
That's pretty awesome.
If you have information on it, email it to me.
Just go to darkjournalist.com and send it to me in the contact form.
I'll read it for sure because it sounds fascinating.
GC, has DJ heard of the predictions of Commander Z?
Weren't you talking about Commander Z?
Commander X. There's too many commanders.
What about Commander Cobra?
Yeah.
No, Commander Z?
No.
They get a lot of letters now X, Q, Z. They're all out there.
Where is Commander Z from?
That would be a good question.
Hey, Christina Taggart, you got it exactly them, which is that incredible ant movie from the 70s.
Fantastic.
Oh, right.
It's great.
You know, it's been fantastic having everyone there.
You can get a last question in if you want.
This has been our ex broadcast.
We have gone through the exes, and there's more to come.
Olivia, you're up.
Okay.
Yeah.
Everybody wants to know what you think of Simon Parks.
Well, Simon Parks is a political background in England.
So it's kind of interesting that he came so forward and brought out these things about him interacting with the.
These aliens and them talking to him about bloodlines and the Illuminati offering him a deal to join and all the rest of it.
I would say it's not an easy picture to sort out.
He got reelected after.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I think he's still in office, yes, for what he did.
But he's, you know, he's kind of like a councilman type thing.
He seems like a nice guy.
And I don't know.
It'd be hard to say with any definitive, you know, impression.
What is going on there with Simon Parks?
But he's been doing it for a little while and maybe I'll look into it a little bit more.
Well, aren't there?
I thought there are rumors of like some weird cult and sex things or something.
Yeah, well, you might be thinking of somebody else there, but there are.
Yeah, with Parks, I think some people who were part of his team came out and claimed that, you know, he was not living up to his end of the deal and was sort of exploiting them.
So.
I don't know enough about parks to say if that's true or not.
But it is unfortunate because when you get around this subject, things like that pop up.
And what you really want are the best stories with the most ethical people telling them.
And we've had them over and over again.
I think there are really excellent people who are experiencing this on the UFO side.
Fred Grace has a question for Alexandra Have you heard or studied any of Paul Pantone's plasma generator technology?
He's on YouTube and very interesting.
As he's still alive, he contacted me several times when I first started publishing.
And I just, I found that I would have, you know, I would have given him airtime or whatever, but I just never found a video that was, or any presentation that was strong enough.
Yeah, yeah.
It's very interesting with the alternative energy people, too, because a lot of the people who come forward with this do so at great risk.
You know, we've seen that happen before when people get really.
He was like, you know, my life has been destroyed.
Bye.
You know, it was definitely right, right, right.
Yeah, I want to help you, whatever.
But then I just didn't find anything that was no, no, yeah.
You have to use your editorial judgment, regardless of somebody's approach.
I can totally understand that.
I would love to break a story like a good story like that.
It just the presentation wasn't strong.
I think that Breakthrough Energy is going to be such a big story this year, and that's why we're fortunate to know Susan Manowich, who's the president of New Energy Movement.
I think some very interesting things are going to come forward out of that.
I certainly hope that we're able to bring some information out of this Nixon time capsule story relating to the energy independence formula that Nixon left.
These are the fascinating stories, and it's great to have you here with us to share them and to kind of get your own impressions because that helps us a lot too in our own research.
So thank you very much, Alexander.
It was great to have you here.
Thank you.
Always a pleasure.
And we're glad to have you back after the bike disaster, let's face it.
Thanks.
Many, many safe bike experiences moving forward.
And next week, of course, Robert Merritt's final interview will be up.
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Bear some very interesting results if the National Archives makes a move on this or if we're able to do this.
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Olivia, as usual, the best questions.
And, you know, just.
Thank you.
Can I actually give a little credit to the ant people?
Because Joseph Correa, who is part Hopi, said Ant people have a long history in the Hopi tradition.
Yes.
And Chio Marley says There's a reference to the ant people who guided the ancient pueblos of the Americas when they first emerged from the earth.
The Lechagilla or Lechagilla caves fascinate me in regards to that myth.
That's just some research people to follow up on.
I love it.
So, what is the sipapu, the straw where the ants or the humans crawled out of the third world into the fourth world?
Yeah, it's so interesting.
Anything, the Hopi mythology is always fascinating.
The Hopi dances are fascinating.
And all that imagery, I think, is amazing.
I was there.
I went to Hopi country and talked to a really great guide, but he was like, We don't give you, you know, just because you're asking me doesn't mean I'm going to answer that.
He said, Yes, we believe in star people, but I'm not going to tell you anything else.
We went to the Anasazi ruins.
Those were in New Mexico.
Fascinating.
Wow.
Incredible.
All the native traditions.
We need so much more information.
There's an incredible disconnect between their advanced knowledge around the off world civilizations and around the more spiritual aspects of this and the culture that we have floating on the top, which is operating on a more superficial level.
So I think that more research needs to be done.
On that, and you know, we've had incredible books through time, things like Black Elk Speaks and all the rest of it, that have really given us some snapshot of it.
But I still think largely it is a diminished view.
I don't think we really have what we need there.
So, more on the native cultures, I'd be happy to promote that.
And certainly the ant people thing sounds fascinating.
I'll look into it some more.
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