The Culture War #44 - Fighting Child Predators & Saving Kids w/ Alex Rosen & Shane Cashman
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Tim Pool
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Alex Rosen @IFightForKids (X)
Shane Cashman @ShaneCashman (X)
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There's more than just that, so... Yes, there's some states where it's only one, like I think Missouri, we have two people, well, I think three people, well actually three people in Missouri because we caught a couple in August, and we'll talk about that one later because it's really a... A couple as in two, or as a couple and two people together?
A couple as in like a male and a female coming to meet who they thought was an 11-year-old girl.
And another guy we caught, this was all in University City, Missouri, like within the past couple months.
So they're all going to be convicted soon.
I mean, the evidence against them is just very stacked.
But we only have one guy convicted from back in like 2021.
But then there's other states like, I mean, I'm just going to throw out Virginia, where we have like multiple that I can't even count right now.
Yeah, so out of all of the states, out of all the people that message us from all across the country, so we use platforms where it's not like local.
So we're not using like Tinder or Bumble or whatever.
And one of the reasons we do use like platforms rather than dating apps is because on dating apps, you have to be 18 and up.
So yeah, you'll catch people on dating apps that want to go after like teenagers, but very rarely are going to come across like a bonafide pedophile on a dating app.
But on platforms, there's whole communities dedicated to these people that are into stuff, even those young infants and toddlers.
So, we kind of go target those people, and yeah, we get the most messages from Ohio and probably Michigan.
So let's start from, I definitely want to hear about how you get started doing this, how this happens, but Shane, you wrote an article for scnr.com, so I'd like to actually start with how you come across this, your experience, you guys went and actually embedded with this, and then we'll start to build up to how this all began.
And I'm like, they got four, I think three or four people lined up that day.
And we're suiting up, you guys are suiting up.
I'm observing from the background a decoy shows up, which I wasn't even aware of at first.
And they use a decoy who I believe is in her mid 20s.
And she happens to be a petite woman with a speech impediment.
And she puts herself in these situations in public, you know, meeting these evil men.
I call them demons in the story.
And so she goes out there when we go to meet the first person.
And we have all the messages printed out from all the interactions they've had with these men, which are extremely explicit.
And they know in the messages that these girls are 11 or 12 years old.
There's no like, there's no loopholes around that.
We, they, they say everything explicitly of what they want to do to these young girls.
So we, we go to the, uh, meetup spot.
I think the first one, first one was at a gas station and, uh, but that person didn't show up.
That person was going to pay $20 to be with a minor.
It was unbelievable which is an immediate arrest you mean be with as in like to have sex Wow yeah with a 12 year old girl That person was spooked didn't show up.
We ended up going to the first big operation of the day was This one's even hard to recount.
I mean, I don't know how they do this every day honestly This guy in his, I think he was almost 60.
Uh, he had been in prison already for molesting a 10 year old.
He had been out, he got out in the nineties.
He had been on the registry and then was on a registry so long he had already gotten off the registry.
And as they walk towards that imagined house, these guys pop out.
Alex has all the messages printed out, which I believe are from Facebook at that point.
Extremely explicit.
And it's like a stack of papers.
They've been talking for maybe a month or two.
So then decoy gets back in the car, cameramen get out, Alex starts walking up the street, and basically Alex announces, I'm a civilian, you don't have to be here, you don't have to talk to me, but we have to talk about this situation.
And almost every time, so far as I can tell, they just kind of get paralyzed.
There's no fight or flight.
Maybe a few times, we can get into those.
But for the most part, these men just start talking about it very casually.
There's loopholes in their logic.
They try to blame it on someone else.
They try to blame it on, like this guy I'm talking about.
Oh, his nephew stole his phone.
It was him.
Oh, that's just stupid talk he kept saying.
But Alex does this thing, and I'd like to hear him talk about that later on, where it's like, he's, and it's hard to watch, but he plays a good cop.
Where he's kind of getting, I don't wanna say on their side, but kind of putting the blame on something else other than just them being evil, which we all know they're evil, right?
But by doing that, he gets to extract information.
And by extracting information, that allows it for these men to hopefully be convicted.
I'm 23 years old, now I look older, but like I like to say, seeing graphic photos of old men's genitalia can age you a little bit.
I started doing this when I was 19 years old.
I've always wanted to be a cop in Houston, where I'm from, Houston, Texas, and I couldn't be a cop at 19.
At least back a couple years ago, you had to be 21 to graduate the academy.
After my first year of college, I was playing college football at Texas Southern.
I had like a very strict regimen, like wake up at 5, go to sleep at 10, like every night, but then we had three weeks off going into summer, so I like completely just threw all that away, and was like, alright, I'm gonna stay up until 6am, just, you know, I haven't done this in like a year.
So, um...
I got into these videos online like I've seen Chris Hansen like in high school before and you know I thought it was cool but never really just didn't really like register to me like wow this is crazy but like seeing these videos again like not only Chris Hansen but more like civilian groups like Pop Squad and Anxiety War and Justin Payne I was like wait there's like I don't know about that part just regular people doing this I thought it was like a TV show or cops doing it And I was like, well, I wonder how bad this problem really is because, you know, I've never really been a sideline sitter with anything.
I've always just gone out there and want to go do things that nobody else really does.
And I just decided to go throw up a fake profile of a 15-year-old boy and just see what happens.
And within 30 minutes, somebody wants to go meet up for sex.
It's crazy to watch these men be confronted by Alex and the team, and how they talk about it so nonchalantly.
And Alex is reading them their depraved messages, and they're just kind of, you know, maybe after 30 minutes or an hour, I don't say they break, but they start to admit more of the truth.
It's never the full truth, but you're getting closer and closer to the truth until you get a fuller view of what they actually had intended to do.
Some of them are... It's just a wide range of people.
This guy, who we walked into a field in Ohio, where we were talking about the doll and everything, this guy ended up defecating himself in front of us.
When I was writing the story, I kept asking Alex, like how many times you see these weird, like physical maladies happen?
Because one of the other guys had like a heart problem.
If you look at his page, there's another guy who had like a stroke and he's blaming all his evil urges on the stroke.
But then you watch the video, the guy then, his urges predate the stroke.
So it's like, I was curious, my interpretation is that it's some evil thing inside of them, but it could just be... Did it appear like he was suffering from, like, fear and anxiety, so he just crapped himself?
No, well, he's like he had like stomach issues, he said.
But I mean, if he had stomach issues all these other days and wasn't crapping himself, I think there's like an independent variable that made him go do it.
But yeah, no, that's the thing with these predators.
They're very dysfunctional people, like even take away the attraction for kids.
A lot of them are just total losers.
They're not on time for anything.
They're just like, I don't know, they're what Klaus Schwab likes to call useless eaters a lot of times.
So that's the vibe we get, wouldn't you say?
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Yeah, you know, we saw... I think that was Yuval Noah Harari who says that.
So for example, Huntsville, Alabama, we have seven arrests there alone.
So I'd say Huntsville is the best city to do this in.
So we do give the cops a heads up there, but when we were in like Vinton County, Ohio, where the firefighter got arrested, no, we didn't give him a heads up.
But the reason he got arrested on the spot, so Ohio is kind of weird.
So in Texas, if they're messaging who they believe is a kid and some other stuff happens, They can get arrested, even if I'm the one posing, if you're posing, he's posing.
But in Ohio, it has to be law enforcement or a real kid on the other end.
So they can only get arrested when we confront them for child porn.
So I kind of question them differently depending on the state laws.
Like in Ohio, this guy, the firefighter, is messaging who he believed to be a 13-year-old girl very sexually.
But we barely go over that in the video because it doesn't matter what he admits to with that.
He can't get arrested for it.
But I really hammered down like, hey man, let's talk about the child porn.
Who's sending this to you?
Like I try to say, who's sending this to you?
That's what I care about.
Not you.
You're just a guy who watches.
Who cares about that?
And then he ends up admitting to a hidden folder, gives the passcode to the hidden folder.
And he has over a hundred images on that hidden folder of child pornography.
And he's open.
So the cops, it's really, it was really a very good video because I mean, we got a shot of the cop rolling up.
Behind him, as he's going through his hidden folder, and you can watch this on Rumble, Rumble.com, Predator Poachers, and the cop's basically like, what's going on here?
I'm like, hey man, we just got some child porn you need to delete, right?
And instantly they're like, oh yeah, I'm going to delete the child porn.
But boom, that's admitting to having it.
And then the cop takes the phone, cuffs him, and so far he's going through the court process.
But it's kind of a crazy video because this lady...
It's body camera footage where this woman, they're saying like, hey, someone reported that you were masturbating on the beach.
And she's like, what?
That's crazy.
You must be joking.
Is someone putting you up to this?
It's like really bad acting.
They know you did it.
But then she just comes outright and says, yes.
And they're like, okay, you're under arrest for like, I don't know, obscenity or whatever the law is gonna be.
She was like, I went into the water and I was just sitting on the water and I took my vibrator and I put it in and like, It's like, okay, that's like a serious crime to do in public with people watching you.
In Victoria, we're like looking for this predator and then we're like, we're like far away from like the nearest gas station.
We're like, I mean at least like a five or ten minute drive.
I wouldn't say that's far away, but we all know we really all had to piss.
So we like went to some train tracks like away from the neighborhood facing away from everything and you know we just uh take a piss.
And there happens to be a train there, and there's actually a conductor in the train.
He's like, hey, what are you doing?
And we're like, oh, God.
So I was like, I thought nothing of it.
But then a cop rolls up, and he's like, did you guys go pee over there?
And I'm like, yeah.
And he's like, oh, well, you know, if there's anybody around, if the person gave his name, you could be arrested for that.
And I'm like, OK, I won't do it.
But even then, I just confessed to it immediately without legs.
But when it comes to stuff like the child porn, and you know the messaging the kids and even like we sometimes get them to confess to molesting their daughters and other people too like if we just put the pressure on them saying look basically like we already know this we're giving you a chance to separate yourself from the actual bad guys like the guy yesterday who do we get yesterday i'm trying to think Oh, okay.
Well, I'll talk about a guy in Georgia that we got recently.
He's not arrested yet, but he's currently out on bond for child pornography.
The Georgia Bureau of Investigation got him in March, and he's out on bond, and we identified him as being on an app used for child porn again.
So we confronted him a couple days ago, and he admits all over again while he's out on bond that he's looking at pornography as young as infants.
But he didn't do that at first.
It's more like, look, man, I know you care about saving kids.
You have kids of your own.
But these actual people sending this to you are the real bad guys.
Well, I wouldn't say it's not law enforcement doing more.
Like, we get that comment a lot, like, oh, well, you're doing the job law enforcement won't do.
But it's not even that.
There's just way too many of these people.
Like, the guy in Georgia we caught with pornography as young as infants a couple days ago, law enforcement did do something about him like seven months ago, but how are they, but you know, you would think a guy who's facing 20 years in prison, his own words, not mine, facing 20 years in prison would control himself for just a little bit, but no, he doesn't.
So it's just way too many people.
Like the amount of people that we've caught twice, and the amount of people that we've caught that are sex offenders.
Watching him break at that point, when you know you've got him, when he knows he's gonna go to jail for admitting this, even though he thinks you're a civilian, not calling the cops, it's like, it's unreal to see that happen.
And it's not rare, that's what happens in so many of these videos.
They don't, I don't know what it is, like why they don't feel like they need to run, you know, like what paralyzes them.
A part of me feels like they almost enjoy talking about it with someone.
They love talking about it because when we've posed as pedophiles, we have a guy, god I can't say his name, but he is arrested currently in jail right now, just not convicted yet.
We had a guy in Virginia who was messaging me thinking that I'm a dad of a 9-year-old girl basically pimping her out.
And I'm 23, but you know, I use my looks to my advantage.
Um, I was video calling him on instagram and you know, i'm like, yeah, what are you doing right now?
He's like i'm at work watching child porn right now And we have that video call record.
You can just go to rum predator poachers on rumble.
Go watch it I mean that call is there And you know, he talks about like our daughter Um, he wanted to meet up with us since we did not obviously, uh, since we didn't get on an app to trade child porn with him He ended up blocking us because he was suspicious like that.
We wanted to meet him without doing all that stuff and um So we end up going to his house a couple weeks later and I'm like, Hey dude, I was the guy talking to you.
I was this guy.
And he's like, Oh crap.
Yeah, I recognize it.
And he admits to thousands of images on his laptop.
He admits to being in a group of over 12,000 people, all trading child pornography.
They have to put in every 12 hours or they get kicked out.
And then he admits to molesting over 10 kids.
He hints at molesting his own daughters, you know, cause I asked him like, Hey man, I talked to your daughters and his reaction is like, Oh, You talked to my daughter?
He's panicked.
And I'm like, yeah, I did, man.
I did.
And he's like, I can't control what I do in my sleep.
It was a loose admission, but he definitely admitted to molesting 10 other kids.
And then he gets arrested the next day.
The cops took his devices that day.
And then his daughter gets in touch with me a couple weeks later, and she's like, yeah, it absolutely happened.
Serial predator is going to be off the streets for good, I think, soon.
It, other than the, um, the flippancy with which these men talk about it, I was also shocked about the, the way the demons are so driven by their evil urges that they have like tunnel vision and they'll go out into daylight.
I mean, we were about to meet multiple guys at a gas station to do this stuff at like 11 in the morning.
Cause there's so, there's so many, they have a complete ego.
They're narcissistic, evil people.
And it's just like, they're showing up in their cars.
I couldn't believe how, I think a lot of people view all this is happening in the shadows of the internet and in real life, but it's, it's happening in the daylight all the time.
Yeah, that's why I think the internet's a double-edged sword.
I don't think there's more pedophiles now than there was 50 years ago, at least as a percentage of the population, but the internet lets them offend 24-7 because instead of only doing it when they visit their granddaughter every two years, they can just go watch child porn right now.
You know, and that's terrible, but the good side of that is all these people, like, for example, that guy in Virginia, if you just type in Predator Poachers Midlothian, you'll see that video on Rumble.
People like that who have been molesting kids their whole life, now the internet lets me in Houston, Texas, identify this guy 1,500 miles from my house, and now his brain of terror is done.
So, you know, we gotta, just like they use it for their own desires, we gotta use it for our own for good, so.
You know, if they're out going to terrorize kids, I mean, it doesn't really matter how much they make.
Like, I mean, it doesn't matter.
Like, like, you know, I haven't, I haven't, there's a lot of people that have been through this that are survivors of this abuse that watch the channel.
And, um, you know, I haven't had a single one of them tell me, you know, I got molested, but the guy was rich though.
So it doesn't count as much like you're something like that.
I think one of the scarier components, uh, Outside of this is there are predators that I won't name, but they do things in just on the other side of the line of the law.
There are individuals who advocate children flee their homes, advocate that children cut contact from their parents.
And they say, what's illegal?
All I'm doing is just saying my opinions.
There are people who go on TikTok, on Instagram, on X, where they post videos encouraging children to basically jump the line of safety.
But they themselves are like, I didn't say anything wrong.
And they're being protected by the media.
And the fascinating thing beyond that, Is when you have people on the right actually point out what you're saying, like there is a widespread problem with this.
You get articles saying it's a conspiracy theory.
They're lying, they're making it up.
And I'm like, it actually sounds substantially worse than these people make it out to be.
This is why there've been a lot of people who are saying that part of the agenda that we see on the left in American politics is grooming because from the narrative of we must protect kids, which is a lie, you end up with laws like, and I think Washington does this in California, where a third party can kidnap a child, bring it to that state for quote unquote treatment, and they cannot be prosecuted for it.
This is why there have been numerous grooming events where the police are like, don't care.
Texas, man, you gotta get on your, where's the legislation?
I mean, Texas should be able to easily pass these laws.
We had in West Virginia recently, you've got Jefferson County, which is the Eastern most part of the Panhandle, and they banned child drag shows and drag shows with children explicitly, it's illegal.
Berkeley County, which is the next county over, no such ban.
And so, you obviously have... These are two counties next to each other.
This is one community.
And people are rather upset about it because this past summer, they did a drag show and brought children up on stage in front of everybody and had them do... I mean, this is... You know, people need to understand this.
I assure you.
The predators that you are talking about, Alex, are the ones encouraging these events, and going to these events, and cheering on these events.
I mean, these people just put themselves around kids.
I mean, we had a guy in Indiana a couple days ago.
He just goes to the mall and just looks at kids, takes pictures of kids at the mall.
And yeah, absolutely.
There's no really opposition to Basically, anything that normalizes kids being around adults being sexual and provocative, these people will encourage.
Because we've heard so many times, like, yeah, the law is stupid, but I can't be with you because of this age.
I personally don't care.
But yeah, it is absolutely the normalization of it.
I mean, 10 years ago, we wouldn't even be having this conversation about child drag shows.
I mean, I didn't even know that was a thing until, like, recently.
But yeah, I mean, I think Republicans need to get some balls.
I mean, yeah, the Republican Party platform is nice and fine.
I agree with it or whatever.
But I mean, it's just don't be afraid.
The left bends the law all the time to enforce their will on the people who gives, you know, OK, if it's a First Amendment violation to ban child drag shows, let the courts decide that.
The laws are actually so far in West Virginia, there's no question that when they brought a child onto that stage to do this disgusting adult dancing, that a cop could have walked up and said, the amount of statutes we have in this state that make that illegal, there's so many, I could pick any one of them.
Those same cops would enforce COVID mandates, even though they didn't want to enforce them, I'm sure, but then when it comes to actually doing something they believe in, they're just too scared because they think social media is all real and stuff.
They're just so scared of all the blowback.
I think the right just needs to have more balls, man.
That's really just what it is, and I think not enough people on the right have it.
But the left now has a completely upside down version of what protecting the innocence of children is because it's the people on TikTok.
It's, you know, or parents at these parades being like protecting the innocence of my child is giving them puberty blockers, getting them surgery, promoting this gender, like weird stuff.
But now we're in this interesting predicament where it's going two directions.
Some states are saying completely illegal.
Some states are saying like, it is, it is shockingly insane to me that I think, I think it's Washington.
It might be California.
I think California too.
A, a, a, a, a child sex change sanctuary, I think they call it.
And that means that If a predator goes online targeting a child, convinced as a child to run to them, where they then kidnap the child and bring to California, California says you will not be prosecuted.
I don't know if you know, but they call it the sex change sanctuary as well.
Uh, cause there's a ton that happened there in New York city is like that too.
I remember when my wife was driving through Manhattan, maybe last summer, there was a billboard from a hospital promoting how many sex change surgeries they've done.
I want the house, I want the car, I want the alimony, I want the pension.
So, having pictures of her husband, she starts making contact, sending photos of him, tells you where he's gonna be, and then you show up to confront the guy who has no idea what's going on.
Something similar has happened with our boy in Spokane.
So there was a situation like that.
We were posing as the pedo online.
This guy named, I'm just going to call him Darren.
His name is not Darren, but I'm just going to say Darren.
Darren's messaging us and he's like, yeah, I have court right now for molesting a 13 year old boy, but I love him.
And you know, he's like, I trade all this child porn and it's like his picture and all of this type of stuff.
And we're like, oh my God, he's using his real name for all of this.
So we find Darren and we confront him with the messages.
I'm like, hey, you know, I got to talk about these.
And this is the one time out of like hundreds of these that we did where, cause they all say that somebody else doing it at first, they all say they got hacked, but he's like, oh my God, this guy has been effing with me for the past like year now, all of this.
And then his neighbor comes out, it's like an apartment complex.
She's like, what's going on here?
And he's like, it's that guy again.
And she's like, oh no, no, no.
That guy has been screwing with him for a while.
We even have flyers of him around the apartment complex.
I'm like, can I see that?
And she comes out and brings me a flyer of this guy saying, Pete on the lookout.
And basically his story lined up to where he did not send any of these messages.
There was no court case of him and a 13 year old boy.
There's something so diseased in their brain where you hear them talk, even though they're denying it at first, it's like you know they're already guilty.
I mean, I believe in the due process, but there's something when you're with these people and we're right next to them, looking in their eyes as they're admitting to all this stuff.
There's something completely off.
Like to me, they're just not, they're not human anymore.
There's something, there's no, uh, and there's something, you know, you can talk about too, is like after the last guy I was with, you got taken away in cuffs, which is so such a crazy thing to be standing in his yard.
And where the last thing he sees is he's taken away by the cops and his wife's inside.
And we're just there like with the other cop.
And I'm like, do you believe any of these people could ever be redeemed?
But for sure, man, I just couldn't think of, like, these people... Okay, so this is another bit of criticism I was receiving from people, is, oh, it's like a disease, like addiction, or it's like abuse, and these people can be fixed.
I'm like, no, they can't.
This is completely different than an addiction to alcohol, which is a very tough thing.
I understand.
Got a lot of that in my family.
Or drugs, or someone who's murdered someone.
I think those people can be redeemed.
I've seen them be brought back to polite society, and they know they have a problem, but This evil urge is a completely separate thing that I don't think these people that were criticizing the story and what you guys do are conflating all that.
This is like, as a parent, if someone told me, oh, that person went to prison and he came back and for, for, you know, being a child predator, like, well, that person doesn't belong anywhere in polite society ever again.
He had a show on CNN where, in one episode, he ate human brain.
And so I actually knew someone who knew him and the conversation came up and I was like, that dude's a cannibal.
And my friend's like, he's not a cannibal.
You can't say that.
And I'm like, he ate human!
And she's like, he ate a piece of human brain for a show in a religious ceremony.
And I'm like, uh-huh.
And a cannibal is a person who eats a person, who eats people.
She's like, yes, but he did it one time.
I'm like, oh, okay, so if you like abused a child one time, it wouldn't count.
No, I'm sorry.
The moment you cross there's, so you can make the argument about, someone asked me then, if you've stolen something from a store one time, are you always a thief?
And it's like, yeah, maybe being a thief because you shoplifted a candy bar is a bit different from eating human or abusing kids.
And there are people who argued in defense saying like, I don't think that makes him a cannibal because Their argument was a cannibal is someone who like intentionally engages in the practice of eating person.
And I'm like, he sits down with these religious dudes and he eats brain.
And it's okay, it's a question, was he forced to do it?
And I'm like, I gotta be honest, I don't care.
You're never gonna come to me and say that this is a line where you get absolution.
Like somebody abuses kids, you can say anything you wanna say.
And I'm like, that's child abuse, that's a pedophile.
Seriously, if there was ever a circumstance in which... So the argument for this scenario was like, these guys are dangerous, these are religious guys, and if he didn't do it, they could attack him.
And I'm like, so be it.
Someone came to me with a chunk of human meat in any capacity and said, you have to eat this.
Okay, it was like a thin piece of cooked brain.
Like, if someone came to me with that and they were like, do it or else, I'd be like, I'll take the or else.
Kanye's cover album is based on a black metal record from Norway.
And that whole scene is known for the cannibal thing that happened when the one guy took his life with a shotgun and then his friends found and took a picture, used it as their album cover and supposedly ate the brains.
Those guys are considered cannibals.
They ate brain and they made necklaces out of the skull.
This is, uh, I have a lot of friends who are in AA and family and a lot of them also say, you know, once you're an alcoholic, you're always an alcoholic, even if you don't drink.
But then those people can be trusted in polite society.
They've identified an issue that they can handle that's well before that line of morality that, like, these crazy evil issues, like cannibalism or child, you know, harm, abuse, molestation, cross.
I've seen these articles, I think it was like Salon had them, I think they deleted them actually, where One of these news outlets, it might have been the New York Times, wrote an article from someone who claims to have been a pedophile, but who has never broken the law or acted on any urges or messaged kids or done anything like that.
And I guess the issue they were writing about is, even though they will freely admit their predilection and they've never broken the law, they are still considered demons.
And I think there's still a danger to be around kids, but I also don't believe in thought crimes as well.
Like, I mean, if they are truly, truly controlling themselves, like, I don't think they should be thrown in jail or anything.
Like, I think everybody has urges they need to control, not with just kids, but like, you know, I like to say I ate too much chocolate cake to the predators, try to relate to them.
Like, Hey man, you know, I got to stop eating chocolate cake.
No, but basically like, you know, they're like, yeah, I like to look at, you know, teenagers like 13 and up, but, you know, they all say they all try to minimize like, well, yeah, there's some stuff in the groups, but I'm just there for the teens, you know, try to, you know, say that doesn't change it, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, obviously when someone hears like, when they think when someone hears like under 18 but it's teens they'll be less judgmental about like infants and toddlers but like you know when i ask them like look man have you seen the video of 9-11 and they're probably thinking 9 to 11 year old to be honest but i'm like you know where the planes hit the towers allegedly and they're like yeah i've seen a I'm like, well, did you like the video?
Was it pleasant to you?
And they're like, oh, no, no, it wasn't pleasant to me.
And I'm like, look, man, so what I'm asking you about this younger stuff, like infants and toddlers, I'm not saying you're into it.
I've saw that on an 11 video.
I don't like it either.
But, you know, in order to save these kids and to get the real bad guys, we need to talk about what was in these videos.
And then they start describing these infant videos in full length of what they're watching.
And it's like, well, at that point, if you can describe the whole video to me, you watch the video and you're into it.
That part of the conversation seems, from what I've seen, seems to be like one of the turning points into getting more of the truth from them.
Because you've somehow unlocked this comfort for them to be open with it, you know, even though we're in public.
Like that one, we were outside of an apartment complex that none of us had anything to do with.
We just told them, this is where you'll meet.
And then I'm waiting at the entrance for the car, him on the phone being like, I think he's here.
And they set it up.
And then this guy just walks in thinking he's going to go into, this is another person going to another 12 year old girl's house because they think the parents are gone.
But all these, most of these conversations are happening just outside around people.
You know, Matt Walsh was talking, there's a story where a guy tore down the Satanist statue at the Iowa Capitol building.
And my attitude is very much like, I don't think we should criticize the left for violence and vandalism and then cheer on someone doing violence and vandalism towards something that we ideologically would support.
I think we have to be better, better people.
We have to prove why it is that we say you don't tear down a statue by force without the approval.
We have to actually have that vote on it.
But Matt Walsh's position is, he says we will not be paralyzed by principle to allow something as evil as devil worship in our buildings.
And the thing I would say is I don't see the satanism, the satanic temple stuff as actual satanism.
It's more of an insult to Christianity, which is a question about the actual procedure then being, you're not really worshiping a religion.
You're intending to insult someone else based on their religion, which would not be First Amendment protected.
So there's an argument there as to how you can handle this.
But he does make a good point that we cannot be paralyzed based on our principles to actually allow this kind of immoral behavior.
So when you're talking about Texas, and you know that this person has done something egregious and wrong, but these cops are like, well, we can't do anything.
Like, you know, first of all, how many, how many times has a cop made something up?
Alright, and I'm not saying they should.
I'm saying, I've been pulled over, and this is back when I'm 19, a cop says, I smell weed, and I laugh, because I don't smoke, I've never smoked, and I was in my work uniform for American Eagle Airlines, American Airlines Regional, and I'm like, my guy.
We get drug tested all the time.
We are moving planes.
We actually attach vehicles to the front of a plane and it's called a push.
You push the plane out to prepare it for takeoff.
Ain't no way anybody in my car, me or anything, smells like pot.
Cop lies!
And he uses that as justification.
We know about... There was a case in New York.
I was live streaming an Occupy Wall Street protest, and a photographer came down, was standing on the sidewalk.
The police grab him for no reason, arrest him, put him in the back of a paddy wagon, bring him to the station, and charge him with obstructing a roadway.
And they lie.
Numerous officers lie on the documents and under oath to lock up a photographer who did nothing.
And then I hear, and then I also add, the technicalities.
The technicalities that cops are willing to go to great lengths to.
Well, you know, you had one foot off the curb, that's in the road, and we told you not to do it, so you did obstruct a roadway.
And you can't even get a single cop in Texas to be like, this breaks any one of these laws.
I hear what you're saying, and we've definitely had cases like in Pennsylvania, similar to Ohio, where you have to be a real kid or a cop on the other end.
But we've had people convicted in Pennsylvania for texting who they believe to be a minor, and we're the ones posing, because yeah, the DAs and the cops kind of bend the laws to get those predators in jail.
We're talking about this with like January 6th, for instance.
So, one of the laws that they're using against all the J6ers is obstruction of an official proceeding.
And the argument from law enforcement is, by storming into the Capitol, or by simply walking in if the cops opened the door for you, that was obstruction, therefore we're charging you.
You've got this one guy who's argued that law was intended for interfering with documentation and procedure not to be interpreted as you had a protest or a riot.
And so the Supreme Court's actually going to take this one up.
My point here is these law enforcement people You can argue they bent the law, or they didn't.
They looked at the statute, it said, otherwise impede a proceeding, and said, that seems to make sense.
It seems to apply.
We'll go for it.
The courts will decide if they're correct.
These cops, like, this is the thing in West Virginia, this is what got me so pissed off.
We've got a building that we bought.
We're building a coffee shop.
They had a drag show with children on stage next to our building.
I am pissed off.
This is adult lewd and lascivious activity that is clearly, clearly defined.
West Virginia law, as I mentioned, already goes a little too far.
A man and a woman who are not married can't cohabitate.
I'm like, oh, come on.
Get this, a man and a woman who are not married can't engage in public displays of affection as it's considered lewd and lascivious.
So you mean to tell me that an adult wearing fake breasts and fake hips doing sex dancing with children on stage doesn't qualify on any of that?
No way!
And the argument they'll make is, well, I mean, no one's really going to arrest two 20-year-olds that are not married.
And that's fine.
That is the discretion of the officer and the district attorney to determine whether or not they could get a conviction under the court of law.
But if you are looking at a statute that says, the definition of lewd behavior in public is like two people not married kissing.
And then you're gonna try and make the argument that an adult wearing strange fetish gear with children is not, for one, the laws around children are even more strict.
Like if you involve kids, now you're in deep trouble.
And here's the thing I'll throw to Matt Walsh, because I don't agree with someone just deciding amongst themselves an individual to destroy someone else's property that was placed through proper procedure.
But Matt Walsh, I would argue, is the big ask.
This is what Trump talks about in The Art of the Deal, right?
The big ask is, you go to someone and you want to sell a house that's worth $100,000.
The big ask would be, you want to buy my house? $200,000.
Yeah, and I agree with him on that because, you know, I totally was, like, even a couple years ago, I was totally, like, live and let live.
Like, yeah, well, if somebody wants to just be trans and do drag, Whatever, but now I'm just like, okay this none of this should be ever displayed in public because you know They don't believe in live and let live they don't believe in like, you know If we just say we want to be left alone, that isn't enough now It's like because they're never gonna leave us alone.
They're gonna come for children as we've seen So yeah, I agree with Matt Walsh like who cares like, you know, we can't be principled anymore Like that's why with George Santos like a lot of people pile on him Yeah, George Santos is a scumbag and a liar, but he gets it.
You show me a picture of a drag queen in Brazil who kind of might look like George Santos, and then everyone just assumes it's true.
That's crazy to me.
I'm like, dude, I don't know.
It's a picture of two guys.
I have no idea.
Like, you know, Vivek was on that live stream, and then what happened was, and this so frustrates me, you hear some kind of like light dripping, and then Alex Jones goes, somebody's peeing!
Somebody's peeing!
And the mic's on, and they're like, that's Vivek.
And all of a sudden, every news outlet runs the story, Vivek was urinating on a live stream.
I'm like, that's not what urinating sounds like.
But because Alex Jones said urinating, all of a sudden, that's all that matters.
And I'm like, dude, it sounded like he was making an espresso or something.
And then, so people post that, and then they post a picture of George Santos, and it's like, the left is cheering for George Santos getting, you know, arrested and removed, and they're like, hold on there a minute.
And so you had this teacher in Illinois, I believe it was Illinois, who was giving the book to kids between the ages of 10 and 12 years old.
The response that we get from the liberals, and I don't mean leftists, I mean liberals.
When I bring this up to Stephen Marsh, who's a journalist and an author, he says, kids can get on the internet, so why not give them the book?
And I'm like, this is very, very indicative of the amorality of the left.
And he said, I don't care about morals at all.
And I'm like, I don't think he knows what morals means.
It's like many liberals assume that moral means arbitrary rule.
That's not what it means.
It means basically like underlying framework for what is beneficial or detrimental to civilization and to human life.
And so when I'm talking about proper morality, I'm saying, we don't give kids these things, and it's not because I just blindly and arbitrarily think kids shouldn't have it, it's because it causes harm that damages people's lives and spreads.
So, you should not give children instruction on how to use apps to meet up with adults, so those adults can prey upon them, but these schools are doing it.
But then bring that logic to these demons and the gradient of the demons, and then you have like the maps, where that's the clinical definition for them to get away with this in the mainstream.
In the news, in bureaucracy, with policies and universities, you know, they're like, oh, it's MAPS.
Yeah, she was being sarcastic, and I saw all these right-wing accounts, including someone I'm an acquaintance with online, saying, fire this teacher immediately.
I saw the video, I immediately knew she was being sarcastic.
We, we, so, I mean, everyone's always trying to define what the culture war is.
It's left, right, authoritarian, libertarian, and I'm, and I've often said I think it's, uh, uh, the Judeo-Christian moral framework, traditional American values, versus Lack thereof?
No moral framework at all.
They operate under the tenet of there is no truth but power.
We all operate under the how do we be good stewards of the earth and good to each other to make life better.
They operate under the how do I get what I want for my emotional satisfaction.
A guy who has served his time or done whatever and is saying nasty things does not deserve death, okay?
However, when you threaten to kill someone, attack them, chase them, and try to grab their weapon, and then someone who's with your group opens, shoots, fires a gun.
This is what happens.
They don't care.
You look at the Ahmed Arbery case.
This is fascinating.
I have Cenk Uygur on The Culture War a couple weeks ago.
I bring this up and he goes, you're talking about the guy who was jogging and got killed.
That never happened.
I'm like, did you even watch the court case?
No one in the court case, the prosecution, the defense, nobody ever mentioned anything about jogging.
In fact, the prosecutors were like, yes, he was a felony burglary suspect.
But the law says in order to make the arrest, you have to witness the crime.
And so the judge left it up for interpretation.
The real case there is, yes, Ahmaud Arbery was a felony burglary suspect who was witnessed burglarizing a home, but the the McMichaels who chased him down did not directly witness it themselves.
Therefore, they did not have the law on their side.
I mean, I know people go jogging in work boots with camo and, you know, have hammers in their pockets, but... The wild thing is that when I say, look, I don't care who you think should go to jail or whether Ahmaud Arbery should have been shot or shouldn't have been.
Like, we make all those arguments.
I'm talking about facts.
The facts are X, Y, and Z. And Cenk loses it and says, oh, you're so racist, so racist.
Oh, he was jogging, he was jogging.
I'm like, none of that is true.
These people will lie.
They will say whatever they have to say to get power.
And they actively defend child abusers because it's part of their cult.
It's the craziest thing.
But you know what?
I gotta tell you.
I was talking to a friend of mine.
We were all having dinner and my friend's friend is from the Netherlands.
And we were talking about why it was that Geert Wilders in the Netherlands won.
His party wins.
He's on track to be prime minister.
And she said, oh, it's because of the LGBT stuff.
And this woman is also LGBT.
And I was like, really?
And she's like, oh, it's everywhere.
And everyone just says, stop, stop.
We don't want this, stop.
But they won't, they keep doing it.
And I'm like, that's fascinating coming from someone who actually is LGBT.
And she's like, Let me just live my life.
That's what we wanted, but now you've got these other people who are not even LGBT, who are putting the signs everywhere, putting rainbows everywhere, people in government doing all this stuff, and then you get the weird stuff like in Santa Monica where those two guys were engaging in a sex act with each other in public at the Pride event.
And I think a lot of gay people seem to be more vocal about like, hey, we don't like this stuff.
Because I truly wasn't the camp of just live and let live.
But it's, yeah, like you said, it's just everywhere now.
But yeah, I mean, and as for like the child abuse stuff, I mean, you know, I bring up politics a lot on my channel too.
And I'm like, hey, look, this guy's walking free because this Democrat prosecutor, and Republican prosecutors too, but it's mainly Democrats don't want to prosecute this guy.
They're just not taking the evidence.
But then they're like, oh, don't make this political, don't make this political.
So we have a lot of leftists that watch the channel.
It's mostly right-wingers, but we have a good portion of leftists and big supporters of ours too.
But they just don't seem to make the connection sometimes that like, hey, because of politics, this guy is walking free.
And the other guy was talking about- I wouldn't call him based.
Yeah, no, no.
And the other guy talked about like COVID and a lot of stuff like that.
So there's things that, you know, people were like, oh, it's all Democrats.
But that's what I was saying earlier.
It's easy for people to silo off all this evil.
Oh, it's the left doing it.
It's the Catholic church.
It's this.
It's so terrifyingly prevalent, you know?
And I was just with you guys for two days.
And I, you know, we didn't see all the people that you had in mind because we were maybe spending too much time with one person waiting for the cops here.
And there's, I mean, yesterday, did you get four people?
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, like, I think partisanship when it comes to pedophiles getting arrested should be the last thing on people's minds.
Like, you know, we catch a lot of predators, I ask if they're vaccinated, and a lot of them are like, oh, I didn't take the vaccine.
We like to say, oh, based pred, based pred, but like, you know, I never Yeah, I know, I know, but like, I like to shoot it with them, like, yeah, man, I don't trust that vaccine, or yeah, I want Trump too.
But then we catch a Democrat Pred, like the latest video we dropped on Rumble, Predator Poachers on Rumble, we caught an engineer who works for, well, I'm just going to say we caught an engineer, you know, I don't want to put him on blast until he gets convicted, but we caught an engineer and he was a Democrat.
And, you know, I was like, you know, I had to muster these words.
I was like, yeah, AOC is really smart.
We just bond with him about that because politics is so emotional now that it's just such an easy thing to bond with.
So basically, so, okay, you're in Texas or West Virginia or Maryland.
Okay, a 24-year-old has sex with a 14-year-old, he gets caught, sex offender registry at least, right?
But in California now, with that 10-year age difference from 14 on up, it's now up to the judge's discretion.
So a judge can look at this 24-year-old who just had sex with a 14-year-old and be like, I'm going to give you probation, but no sex offender registry.
When it used to be a requirement, they had to be on the registry.
I was saying this the other day, like, the left uses this argument of, if it's allowed for one group, it should be allowed for all groups, instead of, if it's allowed for one group, it should be banned for that group the same as everybody else.
That's how I think with everything, though, because, you know, when they when they think of when they see someone like Elon Musk, no matter what you think of him on whose side he's on or whatever, he's obviously a very successful dude.
And rather than like, say, wow, I want to be like Elon Musk, I want to work hard and, you know, try to make a good living for myself.
They're like, let's just take all of his money and just redistribute it to us.
So it's always about tearing things down and regressing in the name of progress rather than just, you know, elevating.
And especially if you know how prevalent this type of evil is, but just in general, just them being exposed to any really bad idea, you know, you have to be on top of all of that because those ideas will poison your community.
You know, there's a lot of them.
It's not just that that's the worst of what you guys are doing, but in general, just like the lack of morals, promoting actually immorality, you know, I, we gotta be very vigilant on how that is in your community and getting into your, you know, your home and your kids.
Oh, I mean, it's not just the pedophilia, like you said.
I have two younger brothers.
One of them is 22, and the other one is 20.
The 20-year-old, he also owns a business like I do, and he does pretty dang well for himself.
I mean, he's farther along at 20 than I was, that's for sure.
And he employs a couple people, and he does t-shirts and all that.
But my middle brother, he's the only one of us to go... Well, I was a college dropout after a year and a half, and my younger brother didn't go to college.
But he's the only one to go to college, a middle brother.
You know, yeah.
I mean, he's the least hardworking out of all of us.
He doesn't have any ambition.
And you know, I mean, I even offered him like, Hey man, I mean, create some reels for me.
My middle brother's doing editing and photography and stuff.
The best education you can get is real life, just working for me.
I'll pay you more than I usually pay people to do my Instagram reels.
And he's like, well, in the grand scheme of things, it's not really going to matter if I do it 30 years from now.
I'm like, you don't know that somebody could look at that and boom, you make a connection here, network there.
Like at 19 years old, when I was just willy nilly getting people in Walmart, I didn't think I'd be on Tim Pool's show four years later, but connections happen and you know, you just got to go out and do things.
And I think a lot of people are scared and they're, you know, they want to stay in that tunnel vision of just not doing shit.
It might take a while, but you gotta really be out in the real world.
Like I said, everything I learned and what got me here is all the freelancing I was doing, reaching out to different editors, being like, I want to be sent to this place, and I'll just go live in the woods forever.
You know, a few days following some crazy person, you know, and that's where I learned everything, you know, doing the story.
We're actually writing stories, all this stuff where you're like, the colleges are promoting where it's like, you just do the paperwork and learn.
Those people are ripe for inheriting the metaverse.
That's a very easy transition into the fake world.
You know, the other people who didn't go to school and it's not everyone who goes to school, but it seems to be the majority of people.
Uh, they're going to feel safest in the digital world, you know?
And then, and then I was home for Thanksgiving up in New York and talking to a lot of friends who are still teachers in colleges or high schools and middle schools.
And they're like, on top of all those problems, they're like, these kids are also stunted emotionally and mentally by years because of lockdowns.
And a lot of those people I was talking to promoted those lockdowns, but now they're seeing what's going on.
Like the consequences of those kids being home, zoom, all those things, you know, the lack of social exposure.
Yeah, they don't teach astronomy like that anymore.
We had our kids, even in New York, we found a school that was outside based, and they would learn astronomy.
the sun you know how to orientate yourself in in the woods if you're lost like i like those things i like driving around my kids and they're young but already i'm like you got to memorize remember these trees these signs like if anything ever happens you got to be able to find your way around you can't just be relying on me oh absolutely isn't it crazy like when i was a kid and uh you probably never experienced this i remember when map quest came out i
I remember when you would go on MapQuest, you would type in your destination and your location, and then print out a bunch of sheets, and you're driving, okay, your next one's gonna be left here.
It's literally if people as long as it like that and that's why like I think stuff has to get a lot worse before it gets better.
I know it's been said before, but like as long as people have especially people my age, have their pornography in video games, I think they just don't care.
And that's the vibe I'm getting.
So like, I look at the people my age around me, I'm like, well, it's going to be easy.
I'm going to be like in the top 1% here of people my age, but like, I'm not, not because I'm good or special just because everybody else is so stunted.
But I mean, me and my little brother, we did a video, not even a, it wasn't a predator video.
We just went to the mall in Houston, like 15 minutes from our house.
And we asked people what's six times seven, the amount of, Oh God.
My favorite is like, there's a video where he's like, a guy's in Times Square and he goes, name a country that starts with the letter U. And they go, uh, one, one woman goes, Utah.
They get their agenda sometimes, and then Trump won and they lost their minds. - Yeah, I had a friend who was a Mason for a little bit, and he got out and he was telling me, he's like, there's Masons, there are dark Masons and light Masons.
I just got, well, you know, and this could be just confirmation bias because, you know, everybody can get into rabbit holes on Twitter or whatnot, but just the amount of 33s that pop up in all these catastrophic events.
It's really, it's very weird to me.
I mean, you know, we got, we got a firefighter in Virginia convicted.
He didn't get 33 years just because of our evidence.
They arrested him on our evidence and they found a bunch of other crap on him.
You could attach that to any type of meaning, and that's for sure.
But you could also say, like, those people belong to those type of groups, those secret societies, as a way to ingratiate themselves in their societies, you know, in their communities, to make it look like they're, you know, like everyone else.
But you could also interpret it being like they're all bad, or a lot of them are bad, you know?
Yeah.
That one video I was watching where they're trying to identify a predator, which I still think is bogus because you can't identify.
You can't just look in the world and be like, that person, you know?
They all do try to blend in.
Like serial killers, you know?
You look at like Ted Bundy, for instance.
They're not all like this either, but a Ted Bundy is a good example.
Or an Ed Kemper.
Even though Kemper went to jail for crimes, murder as a young kid and got out, they are really good at ingratiating themselves in their community.
Kemper was friends with the police.
Kemper did a lot of horrible things.
I mean, go look it up.
We don't have to detail those things because it's wild.
But let's just say he had a head in his trunk when he went to his probation officer, who on that very day said, gave him a very glowing review of how he was doing while there's a head in the trunk.
And when he finished what he had to do as a killer, because he felt like he was healed after he killed his mom, he went and called the cops from the payphone and they all laughed because they're like, Ed, that's hilarious.
Why, Ed?
Come on.
And he's like, no, no, no.
Like, go look.
And it was him, you know?
And he's the guy the FBI went to to help profile other serial killers.
I mean, genius level on other stuff, but Ted Bundy too.
Those guys are just, they know they have to ingratiate themselves into a community to operate openly.
Or the guy, you know, I wrote about the Long Island serial killer.
That guy was an architect.
He did like American Airlines, Taco Bell firms, I believe, if you know, he had a major firm and he was, as far as we know, he hasn't been convicted yet, but he's been in jail this whole time.
He's, uh, he's been operating for decades.
So again, there's a scale of the genius to dumb level of these, all these like really violent, heinous demons.
But, uh, a lot of them do just enter these communities and they know like how to play the game to go undetected for so long.
Oh yeah, like right now we're talking to, and by the time this drops, so I mean I'm hoping he's arrested by then because we're supposed to get him tomorrow, we're talking to a soccer coach who's 72 years old and he's been coaching 10 to 15 year old girls for 20 years and he's been coaching 10 to 15 year old girls for 20 years and we understand him, he's texting who he thinks is a 13 year old, we understand him to be into girls as young as five years old and
We'll see how it goes tomorrow, I hope it ends in an arrest, but yeah, I mean, nobody suspects anything apparently.
Dude, after that story dropped, I got inundated with messages from people I know, people I don't know, saying how it resonated with them because they have some type of story.
Not that they were abused or anything, but something in their neighborhood.
happened where it's like shocking someone that the whole neighborhood loved you know the guy who like you're saying the coach or a teacher someone like just beloved in the community all of a sudden the cops take away and no one knows why and then the news comes out and they're like are you serious and it's like not only is what he done totally evil and shocking then everyone else is shocked that they couldn't even identify it yeah he He'd been around the kids, he'd been to the birthday parties, stuff like that.
I knew going with you guys that this is prevalent.
We know, we read it all the time.
It's everywhere.
It's not shocking, but I still was somehow shocked that it's even more prevalent than I even imagined.
That, that is something I'll never shake.
And I hope, you know, people watch your stuff and read the story, walk away from everything you guys do being like, we just can't, um, be lazy with our kids in our community.
You know, I don't know how you can identify these people.
Uh, unfortunately there's not like some, I wish I was like a black light.
We can put up their faces and see their reptile eyes or something.
But, uh, you know, you have to be vigilant.
You can't let, you can't let the, um, internet step in as a surrogate parent for your kids, which a lot of people do.
You know, my theory still, and you know, when I have kids here, probably hopefully in the next couple of years, um, you know, I, I'm literally just gonna hand them a football and a basketball and just say, go play because yeah, I mean, there's nothing foolproof cause I, you know, I just talked about a soccer coach, right?
And then my sports ball, but still, I mean, it's risk risk reward.
I mean, they're less likely to be screwed with by a predator, you know, tackling somebody as opposed to like being online all day.
So I, I am, despite me using technology for my job, I'm still very anti technology.
So, But I also love it for many reasons, for so many reasons.
But like, the other thing I realized is listening to this one interview with that predator who was saying how he would groom kids.
Something I realized that's really important for parents to do, something my wife and I do, is you got to make sure your kids are very comfortable communicating with you everything.
You gotta be able to, they have to know how to communicate and not be afraid of communicating, right?
Like there's nothing that will happen to my kids, but they won't tell me.
It's just, we communicate since day one, right?
And a lot of parents, there's like a weird distance between them and their kids.
They're not communicating.
You have to communicate.
You have to let that channel be open.
Uh, you don't want to be their best friend either.
It's because you still want to be authority.
I'm like raising kids.
I want to be anti-authority, but they also need to respect my authority.
It's a really tough dance to do, but, um, but also be super communicative, you know, what's going on in their lives.
I was a fat little kid, but like, you know, but I was like, I was like, I was like, word.
I was like, I told, I told the group leader, I was like, Oh, is it, do you know what this is?
Who is this person?
He's like, I don't know.
I don't know.
But yeah, I mean, it's that easy.
And you know, my little brother, okay.
No, no, no, no.
My little brother, um, my, the youngest one, he had a, he, there's a story where he was on Snapchat when he was 13 texting who he thought was a 13 year old.
And it's a girl and she convinces him to send a dick pic and turns out, I mean, it was probably not a girl.
I heard about that and they don't only do that to kids too, they do that to grown- they do that to every- like it's called like the kind of like the they call it the broken window scam where basically they're like oh now we have this on you do this but I would say to anybody in that situation like one of my friends you know Kobe he actually paid and like um if y'all could blur his name out when I say that but um Yeah, I mean, they will always find their next victim.
Like, if you're not giving in to them, they're going to find somebody else because time is money for these people.
The scammers know that if they send an email where everything's grammatically correct, they're going to end up pulling in smart people who will waste their time.
They want to make sure the only responses they get are from the stupidest people imaginable, so they intentionally put weird errors in it.
Well, that's, you know, a lot of people saw that and you have to remember this is also happening around the same time that he's doing all this stuff from that fake Oval Office.
Remember that little studio they set up for him to get the- Wait, pause it.
But people think that, so what happens is Biden's using this soundstage, which has been around for a while.
And then because of that, everyone says, aha, see, he's not really the president.
And it created this conspiracy theory where Trump was actually the president, but because we were going to go to war with China, they needed Biden to pretend to be president so that if we were attacked, they would go after Biden instead of the real president.
Well, yeah, because the thing is, I bet 90% of Congress has a video like that.
You know what I mean?
I bet 90% of Congress has a video like that.
That's the thing, and I know a lot of us are Trump supporters here, but until Trump comes in and actually exposes all this stuff for what it really is, I can't trust him either.
Yeah, but the thing about Libs or TikTok is Libs will just play the video from a leftist, and Media Matters tends to misconstrue a video from people on the right.
Like when she, when lives of TikTok puts it out, you don't really need context for a lot of that.
Cause everything they're saying is like blatantly absurd for us.
Sometimes they'll take something out of context or just leave something out completely.
You know, like when I was like the Kanye story, they had a field day with that thing, but there's so much they left out and there's so much he said that they left out.
That was also in the story, but they don't care.
Cause they have to construct that narrative to, you know, Sodom and Gomorrah is trending.
It's like seven more videos are going to come out of like this guy.
So you know what's really crazy about the the staffers thing is people uh Josie the redhead libertarian pointed out that um Madison Cawthorn said they were inviting him to these orgies and stuff and he got mocked for it.
Yo they're in the building in the senate!
You know what I said this morning?
I'm like guys you all saw that video?
Wash your hands.
Because these these two dudes were going at it On this, like this, it, where you touch stuff when you're in that building and like, man.
And then, you know, I haven't really seen how the left is running or the corporate media is running with the new story yet with the sex video, but I imagine they're downplaying it and they're showing his apology-ish, you know, uh, or maybe, maybe they have a problem.
If I go to a news story, if I go to a news event, and I see two guys throwing rocks, and I write, I saw two guys throwing rocks, that's an objectivity.
But then someone says, you didn't know that a third person threw a rock as well, therefore it's not objective.
No, no, no, my reporting is objective, it just lacked information because I'm not omniscient.
Subjectivity would be, my brother was throwing the rock, and I write, evil man attacks my brother who defends himself.
Claim their objective, but willingly- You're right.
Like, look, dude.
If the New York Times is running a story about moms for liberty, but they're ignoring a Democrat staffer, Doing what he did in the Senate building, then you know they're full of it.
And they do that all the time, just the way they manipulate the truth of a situation.
It's reminding me of how a lot of them were reporting on the Hunter Biden, um, gun situation where the, you know, they were talking about him getting in trouble with that gun, but they didn't talk about like him and the girlfriend throwing it in the garbage.
Which made the story, I think, way crazier.
But they leave that out.
They know it's there.
But they're like, if we put that in, it makes him look even crazier.
We can't give those to the other side.
So it's so hyper-partisan that it's infected them.
But they've been like this forever too.
It's not like it's nothing new.
This is what the news always does.
People still believe who aren't like, we're kind of like political junkies.
We're in this space.
We're reading a lot of it all the time.
But then I think of people like my parents and my grandparents who might agree with us on a lot of things, but their authority of the truth is the TV news.
And that's just a very condensed, that's the sound bites, you know, clickbait crap that Fox is guilty of, NBC, all that stuff.
Gary Lake told me we're blessed to be in this time because we are here to help fix it and we're doing something to help fix it and it's crazy but like you know you can we are here look we can talk to a lot of people are hearing it you're waking up a lot of people all the evil is going on you're breaking down politics all the time Like, that's amazing, you know?
And we're using these platforms to subvert all this narrative stuff, which was not something that happened to this degree in years prior.
He's a Blaze contributor and they're, they announced, he announced that he's being charged over January 6th.
Oh gosh.
This is, was it three years later?
And he's a journalist unambiguously wearing a suit and glasses and, and, and sitting on the Blaze being like, well, what's going on here is the footage shows.
And they're like, ah, no, it doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
Yo, it's not going to stop there.
I think mid 2024 people are going to, are going to be terrified.
I, this is the calm before the storm and you think it's bad now.
I think they, sorry, I think they know how well a lot of people in this space subverted the COVID narrative and a lot of stuff that they know now that they have to, you know, like lockdowns.
What I'm saying is like, now that they know that that has been subverted through this space, they're going to go extra hard on the journalists, you know, in the independent space.
So with the arrest of this journalist, Steve Baker, you combine these things and the sentencing of Owen Schroyer, which they justified speech, his speech as the reason for his arrest.
The next step is going to be prominent personalities on podcasts who encouraged before January 6th, some kind of, you know, riotous behavior.
And they're going to say you incited it and they're going to get him on felony charges.
But like, the corporate press doesn't give a crap about that because they know that they still have a stranglehold on the authority of the truth for a lot of people who still believe that they rule that, you know?
Because it doesn't matter.
There could be all the evidence in the world for people to discredit whatever the press is saying, but they can still get away with it.
This not Alex, but the subscriber gave me a bunch of crap for going on Alex Jones show because of his opinion on Sandy hook.
And no matter what you think about that, I'm like, well, just think about this for one second.
Just don't listen to what anybody else says about Alex Jones.
If you, if we're going by damage to kids, one, Alex Jones is the, like the only mainstream guy kind of mainstream guy promote.
I mean, I'm, I know I'm here right now, but at the time I said this, the only mainstream guy promoting our stuff.
And just think, CNN, Fox News, all these other mainstream sources that all crap on Alex Jones, they promoted all these wars that have killed Thousands and thousands and thousands of kids.
But Alex Jones has an opinion on, you know, an event may or may not happening.
And so just think about that for a second.
Out of all the lies that they've told, all the harm they've actually done, what has Alex Jones done in comparison?
