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Great American Alex Marlowe joins us.
Alex, welcome to the program.
Thank you for taking the time.
Lots to cover here.
I first want to get your reaction on the HerTapes, Joe Biden's mental state.
You wrote an entire book, Breaking Biden, and the media's cover of it.
Alex, welcome to the program.
Your thoughts?
Charlie, very cool.
You're in London, by the way.
I've got to broadcast from Europe a few times over the years.
It's always a thrill.
So good for you for doing it.
And I'm glad you're bringing the message to the UK.
They need you right now.
So I got a contrarian take on all this.
And I think her tape reveals what we already knew about Biden.
And that has been the whole saga here that I'm kind of...
Blown away that I don't feel like a lot of people have shared this same point of view.
But we learned that Biden didn't know where Beau Biden died.
Well, we've always known that.
He said that Beau Biden died in Iraq over and over again, even though he died of brain cancer.
So there was no cover-up here.
We all knew this.
We were all told this over and over again.
It's just that the media didn't seem to care until five minutes ago, where they were trying to scapegoat Biden for their entire collective failure to beat Donald Trump in the 2024 election.
And it wasn't a surprise to you and I. One of the main reasons I believe the media's approval and trust of the American people has gone to basically nothing has been this particular story.
This story in particular, COVID stuff was bad, a lot of other stuff, but this one is particularly really horrifying.
I don't want to say it's the media learned its lesson, but the...
Why is it, in your estimation, that there was no coverage?
Instead, they were covering this up for years?
Yeah, well, first of all, because they knew that their best chance of beating Trump was with Joe Biden, and they don't take down their own people.
And so this is what is the real scandal here.
And I do believe, Charlie, over time, and maybe it'll take years, maybe it'll take a decade, but I think when people look back on this moment, it's pretty historic what we're witnessing.
We are watching the media eat themselves alive, and I don't think they know that we know this is going to happen.
But I do think this is ultimately a media scandal, not a Joe Biden scandal, because the truth of the matter is that the media knew full well that Joe Biden was in decline.
It was well reported.
It was completely available to you.
Recall, Charlie, how Joe Biden claimed that he...
He used to not take mental acuity tests.
And then he yelled at a black reporter and said that maybe you're high on crack because the reporter asked if he was taking a mental acuity test, even though he said that he had taken them before.
So that was all in plain sight and people like you and me and talk radio in our space, we knew this.
But the media acting like they didn't know this now.
It's a big lie.
It's a big scandal.
It's a gaslighting campaign that's taking place.
So they're not trying to own up to it now.
No, it's the opposite.
They're trying to act like they were duped too by the Bidens, which is so fundamentally dishonest.
I think that they're going to really get their comeuppance on this when time has its play.
So let's play here.
Let's play cut 177.
This then enters in the question of how long has Joe Biden had cancer?
Play cut 177, please.
My mother drove us, and rather than us be able to walk, and guess what?
The first frost, you know what was happening.
You had to put on your windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window.
That's why I and so damn many other people I grew up with have cancer, and why can't for the longest time Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation.
So I suppose the question, Alex, How does all this tie in with the prostate cancer news?
And how long do you think, because you're really an expert on the Biden family, has he had cancer and had they known about it?
Yeah, it's kind of a funny thing here.
I wrote a book on Joe Biden and I've...
I've been following his mental decline for a long time, but I also have a family of cancer doctors.
My wife is an oncologist, or her father is.
I have an aunt who's an oncologist.
So cancer talk is constant in this household.
And believe it or not, the stuff in the media reports sounds like it could actually check out.
And if you're on X, the Everything app this morning, your first, every single thing in your feed is that this has been a cover-up.
You had no idea.
It's actually a super common diagnosis.
And it's one of these things where the prognosis on this thing could be five years, given his age, he could die of something else in this time.
There's a lot of treatments that are not super invasive that he could get for this stuff.
And the big tell is it's only thus far spread to his bones, even though it's stage four, which is not, it's not good.
Um, the really the bad sign would have been if it's in his liver and lungs, this is something that could easily be missed in screening.
So people acting like it's impossible to miss this stuff in screenings is just not true.
Uh, But what's interesting is that I love, I love this, Charlie.
Everyone is skeptical.
No one believes what they're hearing.
No one thinks we're getting the truth.
Everyone thinks it's been covered up.
And that is completely healthy, given the nature of him, his administration, and our media.
They've never told us the truth about this guy for one second for his entire life.
Why would they start doing it today?
And it feels like the entire world feels that way, and I love that.
Playing into that is, of all places, CNN.
Let's play cut 178.
It's a longer tape, and then I want Alex to respond 178.
Timing, Jessica, is just extraordinary.
We know from the statement from his personal spokesman that Biden learned the diagnosis on Friday.
Well, what was the biggest Biden story on Friday?
It was the release of those audio excerpts from his conversations with Robert Herr back in 2023.
This was the audio that Axios obtained, almost certainly from the Trump administration, showing memory lapses.
So on the day that story was breaking, Biden was facing this personal news, at least that's according to the statement from...
So you have that as one element of the timing here.
And then you have this book coming out, one of the biggest political books in several years.
It just so happens two of the best reporters in Washington, Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson, are the authors of it.
It's already a bestseller based on the number of pre-orders.
And so this book comes out in two days, but some of the excerpts have already come out.
And it's reignited this debate in Washington and beyond within the Democratic Party about Biden, about whether he should have run for re-election at all.
Yeah, the best reporters.
Yeah, sure.
Alex, you've known this for years.
And this man was running for the presidency 10 months ago.
He was in a debate 11 months ago.
Against Donald Trump.
Your thoughts, Alex?
Yeah, my thoughts is that Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson, these guys are part of the problem.
They didn't miss this.
They knew full well Biden was in full decline.
They didn't do anything about it.
Jake Tapper had segments on his show where it was clear he was in mental decline.
Tapper is the biggest fraud in all of journalism.
He thinks he's a Hollywood star.
He's not really a journalist.
And this is reprehensible, what he's trying to do to sell books.
He's spinning this unbelievable web.
And I think some people on the left are falling for it on the right.
I think we see through it.
That's why he's had to hire...
We're a crisis PR firm, Charlie, because he's taken actually a lot of heat on this stuff because he is every bit a part of the cover-up he's now sanctimoniously reporting on.
It's all a big joke to sell books.
It's going to be very effective to sell books, but it should be legacy-destroying for him.
He's got enough money.
People should know he was every bit a part of the cover-up, and now he's trying to exploit it, and he's trying to scapegoat Joe Biden when it was really the media and the entire Democrat establishment that blew that entire election to Donald Trump.
About a minute here, Alex.
We'll have you for another segment, but I want to make sure you plug all your work so our audience can follow.
Please do that.
Oh, thank you.
Well, really relevant today is Breaking Biden.
My last book, a lot of quotes in here will blow your mind, given the nature of the conversation today.
I wrote it two years ago, and if there's any doubt that he was in mental decline, we'll just read the book.
We all knew it, as a matter of fact, years ago.
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Alex Marlowe continues with us.
Let's play Cut 200.
There are people who knew and said nothing.
And that is a crime against this republic.
And I think the Democrats are going to pay for a long time for being a part of what is now being revealed to be a massive cover-up.
Alex, do you think that there is long-lasting, well there should be, but do you think there will be long-lasting political consequences?
I do think that the American people will no longer trust with the media and what high-level Democrats say about anything.
I think the media really thinks that they can get off scot-free on this by just blaming Joe Biden, scapegoating Joe Biden.
I think that's the plan here.
That's what they want to do, is that Biden and a small team of people who are going to be politically irrelevant, they're the only ones responsible.
I think it's going to backfire, and I think the entire media establishment is going to have hell to pay for this.
I think the public's not going to trust them.
I think it's already happening.
They think they're helping their own cause.
I think they're hurting their own cause.
I'll tell you, Charlie, I spent some time over the weekend.
I went to a famous prep school in Beverly Hills, and I was talking to a lot of the people there at a reunion over the weekend.
A lot of these people, very active in Democrat politics, connected with big people in Hollywood and in the Democrat apparatus.
They're completely demoralized.
They know they have no one to go to.
They have nothing nice to say about their bench.
They are completely on their heels right now, on their back feet, and they are downtrodden.
When they saw me roll up, they're...
Yeah, so talk more about that.
Contextualize it, because we as conservatives are always thinking that the left is in a power position.
They have a plan and they're ready to go.
And I think that we on the right are usually victim of...
I don't want to say overestimating, but thinking that there's always a conspiracy behind every left-wing decision, which sometimes there is, by the way.
Sometimes there is.
It's a good default.
Yeah, but what you're saying, though, and again, when I talk to Democrats, I get the same sort of, the best term I could use is demoralization.
They're just demoralized as if they're like the Buffalo Bills after losing, what is it, the fourth or fifth Super Bowl in a row?
Was it four?
Right.
After the fourth Super Bowl, they're like, come on.
I mean, how many more times do I have to do this?
And do you feel as if the Democrat Party, in their primary selection, you think about it, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, those are three very safe picks that were not really done, quote-unquote, using Democratic means.
Bernie Sanders won the primary in 2016.
Is that going to change?
Will the base of the Democrat Party roar?
And how should we react to it?
So this is such an important question.
It's one of the most important questions that you can ask.
And that 2016 primary absolutely was rigged for Hillary Clinton by the Democrat apparatus.
Charlie, we can talk about that at length, maybe at another show.
But I want to caveat what I'm about to say, that Bannon's got the right approach.
We have to stay in a war footing.
We cannot act like this is peacetime.
And if you want to defeat lawfare, there's only one way to do it, and that is to win every single election.
That's it.
That is the number one way to do it.
That said...
Things are looking good.
Our bench is looking really dynamite.
The names, Vance, Rubio, etc., come to mind, and there's so many others.
But their bench looks very weak, and they know it.
They know it's weak.
And so they're going to...
Try to have to find someone who's probably unfamiliar to this audience to lead the party.
I'm not talking about just being a nominee in 2028, but just to get some momentum and some energy.
But they do not have a mainstream person who is firing up their base, and they all know it now, and they're all looking around like they have no idea what to do.
And so that's, I think, why they've got all this time to complain about Joe Biden when they're realizing they're actually complaining about themselves.
About a minute remaining here.
Lots of news about the big, beautiful bill.
What would you say is the status of that?
What do you want to see happen?
One minute remaining, Alex Marlow.
Yeah, I like a lot of the stuff, and I'm rooting for the bill.
I wish there were more cuts, but I think that it's essential to President Trump's agenda that it gets through, but obviously I would like to see the cuts codified.
It feels like a lot of the spending takes place now and the cuts later.
It's very dangerous.
We're playing a dangerous game in this country in that regard, but we've got to get this agenda going, so I am rooting for it to pass.
I'm just hoping it's the best version humanly possible before it does.
But I like a lot of the stuff in it.
I know that in your first hour, you're talking a lot about it and people should listen to that.
If they're only catching this one, but it is, I'm optimistic, but I still, I want more cuts.
The best element of the bill that is not being discussed is the tax on remittances.
That is the funding mechanism that makes illegal immigration possible.
Do you want to riff on that for 30 seconds, Alex?
Absolutely.
This is something where Trump's presidency is already historic because he's doing everything to disincentivize more illegal immigration.
Charlie, if he does nothing else but play golf for the other four years, if he continues to do this where there's not going to be any new border crossers whatsoever, that's already an A presidency for me.
I totally agree.
I hope he continues to do all the great stuff he's doing and more, but that for me is my number one, and he's already doing it at a pace none of us could have even anticipated, even his biggest fans.
Well said.
Alex, great work.
Thank you so much.
Come back soon.
Thank you.
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Mike Davis is with us.
Mike, I know you've got to dash a little soon here.
We're just running behind schedule here in London.
A lot of stuff happening.
Mike, thanks for taking the time.
So, Mike, explain to us the recent Supreme Court decision and the significance of it, and should people be freaking out?
No, I wouldn't say that people should be freaking out.
I think the Supreme Court, I think they're being cowards, frankly.
I don't think they're following the law, but they punted the decision back to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals to decide what kind of notice, how long the Trump administration, the president needs to provide to Trendy Aragua foreign terrorists before the president of the United States can expel foreign terrorists under the alien regime.
I would say the time should be zero because the statute does not provide.
That there's any time frame.
But, you know, it's going to go back to the Fifth Circuit.
The Fifth Circuit's going to have to figure out how many days it will take to appease their bosses on the Supreme Court, whether it's three days, seven days, 14 days, 21 days, whatever the time frame is.
And so then the president will have to give notice to these Trendy Aragua terrorists, and then they have a chance to file.
A habeas petition during that time frame.
If they file a habeas petition, I guess the Fifth Circuit's going to have to figure out whether it goes to a district court or it goes to an executive branch immigration judge.
It's unclear, probably, through the district court, and then who knows how long that will take, who knows the number of appeals.
I would say to these Supreme Court justices, it's very hard to be a general, and it's very hard to be a senator.
And they're not very good at it.
So maybe they should just stick to their day job of deciding cases and controversies of the parties properly before them with redressable claims.
Nothing more, nothing less.
That's their Article III power.
So, Mike, help me understand.
Are we trending towards a potential Supreme Court decision where – We're going to have to have 20 million trials for the 20 million people illegally in the United States of America.
Will there be any nuance issued this that we have to give full trials and due process for every person that is broken into America?
That's a good question.
I guess it depends on what the seven senators on the Supreme Court, two of them are going to follow the law.
Justice Thomas and Justice Alito are going to follow the law.
We have seven Supreme Court justices who want to be generals.
And tell the President of the United States he has to turn around military planes expelling terrorists.
You know, we have seven generals who tell the President he can't expel foreign terrorists.
You have seven generals who think that you have to provide who knows how many days of notice and who knows what kind of supposed due process.
Look, illegal aliens do not have...
The same constitutional rights that American citizens have.
There are Fifth Amendment constitutional rights to the extent they exist.
Or are you here illegally?
And if you're here illegally, you need to go home.
If you're claiming asylum, there's a process for that.
But just running across the border and living here for several years and then claiming asylum when you get caught is just not how it works.
And so the Supreme Court needs to figure out.
Well, here's the issue, though.
Well, here's the issue.
I agree.
But a lot of the people that came under Biden all claimed the scam of asylum.
That the majority were not gotaways.
The majority were people that said, oh, please take me into custody.
Asylum, asylum.
Here's the magic words.
Hocus pocus.
Are we not allowed to expel them immediately?
Or do they have to get full trials adjudicating their asylum claim?
And why do we have the asylum scam in the first place?
That's a very good question.
And I think Congress needs to close down the asylum scam.
Make it very hard to claim asylum.
Because guess what?
If you're being persecuted in your country.
You're not being persecuted in the country next door.
Why do you have to come to America, right?
And so that's the issue.
There are people who have true asylum claims, like the Afrikaners in South Africa, who are being hunted down and slaughtered because they are whites, simply because of their race.
They would have a legitimate asylum claim.
But if you are in Central America or South America and you just want to come to America to work, then that's not a legitimate asylum claim.
I would just ask this.
If they're being persecuted and tortured back home, why did they leave their wife and kids back home?
Why didn't they bring their wife and kids with them when they're coming to America?
It's obvious they're scamming the asylum system.
So the Supreme Court needs to understand this.
If they're going to require constitutional full due process and trials for 20 million illegal immigrants, the Supreme Court is going to lose its legitimacy, and that's all it has.
Very good.
I know you've got to dash in a second here, Mike, but what should happen if President Trump gets a Supreme Court decision that says you must have 20 million trials?
Is that it?
Are we exhausted?
Are we done at that point?
I hope the Supreme Court...
Does not get to that point because I think the American people did not agree with that at all, not in our founding, not after the Civil War when we ratified the post-Civil War amendments, not any time since then.
Certainly not in this last election, right?
The American people gave the president a mandate to expel these illegal aliens, all 20 million of them.
They're all criminals, particularly Trendy, Aragua, and MS-13, the most vicious terrorist in the Western Hemisphere.
And if the Supreme Court puts up, if the Supreme Court makes up the constitutional due process rights that are equivalent to Americans' due process rights, It's not going to fly.
Remember this.
It took the Supreme Court 30,000 hours to provide relief to January 6th defendants.
It took them less than 24 hours to provide relief to Trendy Aragua Terrace.
Something is fundamentally flawed.
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Absolutely.
All right.
That's a great segue to what Hill Dog, the great orator Hillary Clinton, said.
This weekend.
We have always said that the Democrat Party hates the American body politic.
They don't want to work with the American people.
So when the people are the sovereign, which technically we are, you just change the people.
Don't try to win them over, but actually dilute the influence of native-born Americans.
Turn America into a fundamentally different thing than a country.
Well, this weekend, Hillary Clinton came out and said, the people who produce the most children Our immigrants.
One of the reasons why our economy did so much better was because he had lots of immigrants, legally and undocumented, who had a larger-than-normal family.
So instead of trying to encourage Native Americans or Native-born Americans to have more kids, we're going to go import a bunch of Ilhan Omars and Mohammedans from the Middle East.
Play Cut 159.
People who produce the most children in our country are immigrants, and they want to deport them.
So none of this adds up.
But, you know, one of the reasons why our economy did so much better than comparable advanced economies across the world is because we actually had a replenishment, because we had a lot of immigrants, legally and undocumented, who had a, you know, larger than normal, by American standards, families.
Hillary Clinton was basically saying, That these are your replacements and you should welcome them into your country.
That you should be excited about bringing in your replacements.
Tim Walls said something about ICE agents this weekend.
Donald Trump's modern-day Giscapo is scooping folks up off the streets.
They're in unmarked vans, wearing masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons.
No chance to mount a fence.
Not even a chance to kiss a loved one goodbye.
This is a complete lie.
Almost every single person, and by the way, he can't even pronounce Gestapo Tim Walsh, almost every single person that is being deported has had plenty of due process.
These people have been in front of judges.
They have notices of deportation on their file.
And this is where Tim Walsh really wants to go.
He was forcing people to take an experimental mRNA gene therapy shot.
Against their will, and he all of a sudden wants to go use some sort of reference to World War II?
Immigration is a tool.
Mass migration is a tool.
And being here in London, you can see how it fundamentally changes the fiber of your nation.
Arabic texts on stores all over the place.
And that was not the case when I was here five years ago.
It is a conquering.
Fundamentally, when Islam comes to a country, they multiply, they envelop, and they take it over.
In Islam, they do not believe in freedom of speech.
You cannot say anything negative about the Prophet Muhammad, amongst many other things.
They do not believe in freedom of religion, and they do not believe in separation of mosque and state.
They believe in a fusion of mosque and state, otherwise known as Sharia law.
They want the pillars of Islam and the teachings of the Hadith to be incorporated into the government.
And does that make the West freer?
Was the West built on this?
It's very interesting.
We have decided to deny our birthright, which is Christianity, then go towards secularism and import Islam, something that has never had anything to do with Western civilization.
We are called the West for a reason.
Because we're not in the East.
And we're not in the Middle East.
We've brought in Islamic fundamentalism into our countries via cultural suicide.
And Hillary Clinton says, well, they're having more babies and we should bring them in.
We should have the ability to deport all of them whenever we want.
What country ended the world became better when the Christian share declined in favor of becoming more Muslim?
Not one.
But almost every country gets better when it becomes more Christian.
Something to think about.
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In the spring of 2017, we knew...
One of the reasons why the quote-unquote Democrat resistance was real was because of voter registration data.
There's a lot of things you can fake.
One of the things you cannot fake is voter registration.
After January 6th, for example, voter registration was bad for Republicans.
It took a momentary decline.
For almost the next six months, it was not good.
Voter registration is how people are thinking in the moment.
Voter registration is actually more accurate than any poll.
Because what it is, is new voters taking pieces of paper and saying, this is what I affiliate with.
This is how I'm thinking in that time.
Now, of course, those people can change their mind.
If someone registers a Republican, they can then become a Democrat.
But if they register as a Republican, they're at least center-right.
Two pieces of voter registration data that is very, very promising, everybody.
The first of which is this.
It is official.
Miami-Dade County has flipped red by voter registration.
To understand the significance of this, this used to be one of the bluest cities in America.
I believe it was the 1972, right, Blake?
1972 convention in Miami?
1972 with McGovern?
Miami is literally where they held the DNC in 1972.
It was a stronghold.
Now Miami-Dade County...
Has more registered Republicans than Democrats.
Highly Hispanic, very Cuban, wonderful people.
In 2016, Miami-Dade County voted for Hillary Clinton, 63%.
So it was 63% Democrat in 2016.
And now it is a majority Republican.
Everybody, this is a seismic shift happening in the American body politic.
If the Democrat resistance was really going well and penetrating into younger people and persuadable voters, they would be winning voter registration battles in places like Miami-Dade County.
The other piece of data, put 203 up on screen, and this is one that Turning Point deserves a lot of credit because we still have hundreds of people out in the streets every day registering voters.
The campaign has never stopped.
In Arizona, Republicans are 35%.
Of all registered voters, Democrats are 28%.
Others, meaning independents, are 33%.
Back in 2021, it was 33-33-33.
Democrats have dropped five points in their voter registration share.
We have gone up two points.
In fact, there are, in the state of Arizona, our advantage over Republican versus Democrat.
It was right around like 80,000 more Republicans than Democrats right after the 2020 election.
It was bad.
Now, it is well...
Oh, I'm doing the math right now.
It is well over 330,000.
In Arizona, there are 330,000 more registered Republicans than Democrats.
