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Jan. 27, 2025 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Donald Trump's Foreign Policy Masterclass

Charlie's sound may be spotty this episode, but nothing at all is spotty about Donald Trump's achievement over the first weekend of his second term. Charlie breaks down everything impressive about Trump's manhandling of the left-wing president of Colombia, who tried to avoid taking back his country's illegal immigrants, only to fold in a matter of hours. Charlie explains how Trump's success exposes the sham of D.C. foreign policy "experts." He also talks about VP Vance's interview successes, and chats with Sen. Rick Scott.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are here in Washington, D.C., which is better yet...
Probably called the liberation capital.
This is the heart of the liberation.
The heart of where you getting your country back is headquartered.
It's a big fight.
As you know, there are arrests occurring and deportations happening in real time.
Hardened criminals, the worst of the worst, are being rounded up.
Child sex traffickers, rapists, drug criminals, smugglers are being rounded up in large numbers and they are being deported.
However, we must now talk about that next piece, deported to where and deported how.
So far, 2,681 terrible criminals, hardened, the worst of the worst, have been rounded up and are being sent back to their country of origin.
Now, this is a very important point.
The country of origin element requires a little bit of diplomacy and a little bit of creativity.
There are four people in particular that I want to point out of just kind of the example of the individuals that have been arrested, the first of which here on WhiteHouse.gov.
This person was arrested in Buffalo, New York, with suspected ties to the ISIS terrorist organization.
Next person was arrested in Los Angeles by ICE, Immigration's Customs and Enforcement, for being an MS-13 gang member wanted for murder.
Oh, that's nice.
He's just walking the streets.
Joe Biden never cared about rounding these people up.
The next guy, just walking the streets of Seattle, was convicted for the rape of a child.
Next guy, walking the streets of New Orleans, convicted of sexual abuse and kidnapping.
2,681 people arrested.
Now, once they're arrested, they're quickly processed and sent back to their country of origin.
And that is where things got very interesting over the weekend.
The return to their country of origin.
Now, Tom Homan, President Trump, and the entire immigration squad, Stephen Miller, have designed a plan to be able to deport millions of people that are here illegally.
So they started to round up people from Colombia, put them on an airplane, and sent them back to Colombia.
But the leadership of Colombia in Bogota...
The cross-dressing Marxist terrorist by the name of Gustavo Petro said, no, we are not going to receive these people that we sent out of our country that are making America more dangerous, less safe, and a harder place to live.
He's tried to dig in.
So here's the steps.
It's about six steps that occurred on Sunday afternoon.
You might have been watching the...
Washington Redskins versus the Eagles or the Bills and Chiefs.
Don't get me started.
I feel so bad for Josh Allen.
Separate topic for another time.
The refs stole it, but that's a separate issue.
But I was watching the real show.
The real show that involved our livelihoods and the future of our civilization was the show of President Donald Trump putting on a masterclass that will now be in the Trump library called the Columbian.
Masterclass, or a Sunday afternoon solving the world's problems.
President Donald Trump was golfing, meeting with friends, while he was putting forward, without a doubt, the most precise, well-orchestrated, step-by-step, thoughtful, and deep one, two, three, four, five, six moves to be able...
To send illegals back to their countries of origin.
Now, of course this is obvious, but it's worthy of repeating.
We are the incumbent superpower.
We are the strongest country on the planet.
We are the world's reserve currency status.
People want to invest in our nation.
You have Saudi Arabia saying we're going to go spend $600 billion to try to win favor with President Trump.
We are the desirable market.
Under Joe Biden and previous Democrat presidents.
We haven't acted that way.
We've acted as if we are equal with Colombia.
We are not equal with Colombia.
I have a lot of respect for the Colombian people.
I'm sure it's a beautiful country.
But America is not on an equal footing of Colombia.
They are a subservient nation to the United States of America.
Economically, militarily, in every possible conceivable way.
We hold all the cards.
So you would think...
That when the world's largest nation, when the superpower comes knocking and says, you're going to accept these couple dozen, that's all it was, which is a couple dozen criminals back into your country, Colombia would say, sir, yes, sir, whatever you need.
Because the Colombian economy is largely dependent on trade, commerce, and immigration with the United States of America.
Almost all of Central and South America.
Is dependent on friendly relationships with our nation.
We are still the richest.
We are still the most desirable place to put and deploy capital.
Their muscle memory was based on the Biden regime.
What do you mean we have to accept all these criminals?
We're an equal nation as you.
Okay.
So here's the six steps that occurred.
Step one, Trump sends the flights.
Step two, President Gustavo Petro says, no, we're not going to accept them.
Now, step three is worthy of a lot of time.
We're just going to press pause and read this piece by piece because it was a master class.
You see, President Donald Trump had a decision to make.
He could engage in private diplomacy or a public example.
In this particular instance, a public example was the only move.
Now, mind you, private diplomacy very well would have worked equally as effective.
But why is it that President Donald Trump decided to escalate this situation so quickly, so rapidly, with such overwhelming economic force?
The reason being is that if Colombia started playing games, then Nicaragua might start playing games.
And Honduras might start playing games.
And Panama.
And you would have a regional resistance domino theory where all of these Central and South American countries would think that they could play games with the United States of America and Colombia was a perfect country to make a public example of it.
First of all, their leader is literally a cross-dressing Marxist terrorist who was responsible for the death of hundreds of Colombians.
And so President Donald Trump decided to escalate.
And the Colombian leadership was probably so taken aback.
The equivalent would be that if you're just kind of at a 1 out of 10 and President Donald Trump went to a 9 out of 10 right out of the gate.
This shows how well prepared the administration was when they came in.
How well prepared this team was.
Colombia's president assumed he could just say no.
No, we're not going to do this.
But this new Trump administration was ready.
Able, willing, prepared.
There was a list of actions that they were ready to take once a leader was dumb enough to F-A-F-O. And I'm going to read this entire truth social post from President Trump because it is so smart and so strategic.
And you better believe any of the other actors in the region that were even thinking of resisting.
Honduras, Guatemala.
Belize, Ecuador.
They were watching the Colombian masterclass example.
Oh boy, I don't know if I want that.
And Colombia became the momentary center of gravity.
It became the center of emphasis of all focus.
Where all the other regional countries were watching and saying, okay, Colombia, you want to pick a fight with the superpower?
I mean, Colombia, I don't think they have a navy.
It's not exactly a fight that they're going to win.
And this would never escalate to military conflict.
But economic conflict, they are beyond a subservient nation.
I mean, they're barely a second world nation, almost a third world nation.
They're right on the edge.
Certainly not first world.
And I'm going to read what President Trump authored because it sent a message, not just to that freak who's the president of Colombia, but to every other nation.
This is not just about...
Bullying other countries or starting flights.
This is about not getting taken advantage of and not being the dumping ground of the third world.
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Colombia refuses, and President Donald Trump responds.
And I want you to listen carefully because we're going to go through word by word.
This was not just something that President Trump sent off on a whim on a golf course.
This is something that President Trump sat down with his team and they thoughtfully had waiting in their back pocket.
They had all of this ready.
And they said, okay, who's going to be the first country to resist us?
Who's going to be the first country to say that you're not going to accept your own people?
And just time out, time out, time out.
Hold on.
If Colombia was willing...
To risk their entire economy over a couple dozen migrants, that shows you how dangerous these people actually are.
Secondly, I thought these were the most wonderful people.
These are dreamers.
They make our country stronger.
It exposes the big lie about mass migration.
Countries do not want these people.
In fact, I'm going to get into the Haiti example later, which is just so delicious.
Do you know that the Haitian president says the return of Haitians to his country will destabilize his country?
Yeah, that's the point.
Thank you for making our argument for us.
Oh, so the return of Haitians back to Haiti will destabilize Haiti.
Huh.
I thought that these were future Elon Musks.
I thought these people that were going to split the atom and they were going to create ChatGPT.
President Donald Trump wrote, this is so smart from him, I can't put this into words.
Even President Trump's critics and skeptics said this is next level.
Joe Biden would never do this, Barack Obama, George W. Bush.
This is creativity, stones, spine, direction.
President Donald Trump wrote on Truth Social.
I was just informed that two repatriation flights from the United States with a large number of illegal criminals were not allowed to land in Colombia.
This order was given by Colombia's socialist president, Gustavo Petro, who is already very unpopular amongst his people.
Petro's denial of these flights has jeopardized the national security and public safety of the United States.
So I have directed my administration to immediately take the following urgent and decisive retaliatory measures.
Again, this is not something that was just authored on a whim.
This was President Trump's four years of thinking that he was able to deploy.
Emergency 25% tariffs on all goods coming to the United States.
In one week, the 25% tariffs will be raised to 50%.
A travel ban and immediate visa revocations on the Colombian government officials and allies and supporters.
Pause.
This means all of the oligarchs of Colombia, all of their drug criminals, they're not going to be able to visit their yachts in Miami.
They're not going to be able to go shopping on Fifth Avenue.
They're not going to be able to go to Beverly Hills.
What President Trump did with the travel ban and immediate visa revocations is so smart because he was going after the economy with the tariffs and then he's going after the lifestyle with the oligarchs.
And so all the oligarchs are probably working the phones.
Petro, what the heck are you doing?
I got kids that are going to University of Miami.
I got kids at Georgetown.
I got kids at Harvard.
And I can't go visit my kids.
What he went for is the lifestyle of the ruling class of the Colombian elite, which created internal turmoil.
He continues, visa sanctions on all party members, family members, and supporters of the Colombian government.
Sorry, Ms. Petro, which, by the way, is like some sort of a trans person, apparently.
I don't know.
You're not allowed to go shopping anymore in downtown New York.
You're going to have to go to Paris.
Continuing.
Enhanced customs and border protection inspections of all Colombian nationals and cargo on national security grounds.
This, by the way, I think this one should hold.
This is his not-so-subtle way of saying, I'm going to find every little sliver of cocaine you maniacs are trafficking into Houston.
This is his way of saying, I am going to choke point and publicize that you guys are narco criminals.
That are poisoning the American body politic.
This is code.
This struck at the absolute core of the Colombian drug trade, which is a huge part of the black market of the Colombian oligarchs.
This is where it gets really aggressive.
I-E-E-P-A treasury, banking, and financial sanctions to be fully imposed.
Essentially, you can't transfer money into the United States.
All those remittances?
Not going to happen.
These measures are just the beginning.
We will not allow the Colombian government to violate its legal obligations with regards to the acceptance and the return of criminals they forced into the United States.
So at this point, the president of Colombia had a decision to make after all of these tariff threats.
And the president of Colombia, I think, got some really bad advice.
My gut is that some Democrat politicians or allies were advising the president of Colombia.
Be the resistance.
Hold the line.
Call it a blockade.
Yeah, I don't think that was a good idea.
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Okay, so after President Trump issued that threat, the Colombian president thought he could go halfway.
He said, oh, I'll accept this flight, but not future flights and none of your other demands.
And President Donald Trump said, sorry.
Not good enough for us.
We will proceed as planned.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio has been incredible throughout this process, by the way.
He was 10 out of 10 yesterday, and Marco Rubio deserves a lot of credit.
He was behind the scenes, kind of being a little bit of good cop.
Understand, Marco Rubio speaks fluent Spanish.
So while this was ongoing, Marco Rubio was likely, I can almost say certainly, I don't have this factually known, but...
On the phone, speaking Spanish to the Colombian government, saying, are you guys out of your mind?
Are you out of your mind?
What are you doing exactly?
President Donald Trump has come in with salvo, salvo, salvo.
An economic tomahawk missile is what he was doing.
And Marco Rubio was diplomatically speaking to them as the Secretary of State, of which he should do, by the way, saying, you guys are loco.
Muy loco.
Stop it.
So the Colombian government, for about a three- to four-hour period thought, and I have a theory as to why, that they could win this standoff.
The Colombian government was probably getting some advice by American-funded NGOs or Democrat senators or staff or some allies or associates saying, dig in.
You can be the international resistance.
This is our moment.
And the argument that people like AOC were making on Twitter, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, was that Americans really want their coffee, their Colombian coffee, and this will break them.
Listen.
First of all, there's other countries that we get coffee from, number one.
Number two, Colombian coffee isn't that good.
Number three, if Americans want coffee, Colombians want a lot more than just coffee.
They are wholly dependent.
On the American economy.
So they tried to dig in.
So what did President Trump do?
He started implementing the policy.
This is where it got to be so, so smart.
Where President Donald Trump started to actually implement his threat.
The U.S. Embassy in Bogota started issuing visa cancellations in real time.
President Donald Trump said effective now will be a 50% tariff.
You guys want to play around?
You think you can stand up to us?
By the way, let's be perfectly clear.
What was our ask?
For those out there that say, oh, you shouldn't just bully other countries.
Hold on a second.
What was our ask?
Were we saying that we wanted access to their natural gas or minerals?
No, it was a very crisply delivered inquiry.
Will you take back your people that you sent to us?
They belong to you.
These are Colombian passport holders.
These are passport holders of the Colombian government.
Not that complicated.
And just think about this for a second.
Colombia is refusing to take their own people?
Carrie Lake from Voice of America, as she assumes leadership there, she should, again, she's kind of the international media arm of the American government.
If I'm a Colombian citizen and I travel to Germany, And I get in trouble in Germany.
Will the Colombian government receive me in return?
The rank-and-file Colombian citizens should be outraged about this.
That their own Colombian government won't take their own citizens when they're returning.
That their own Colombian government will say, sorry, you're not allowed back into your homeland.
If that's not a breakdown of the social contract, I don't know what is.
But we know what's really going on here.
We know what's going on.
That these are bad hombres.
These are the worst of the worst.
And Gustavo Petro, the socialist who runs Colombia, is upset that he now has to take care of his own people.
Guess what?
Playtime is over.
America is no longer the dumping ground of the third world.
Now, I will say the Democrats would have a really strong point here.
The Democrats would have an overwhelmingly strong point here if all of these leaders were celebrating the return of these people.
If Gustavo Petro would like to throw a parade when these people landed in Bogota, you'd say, okay, maybe the Democrats were not right, but at least they have a strong argument that these people are worthwhile having in a country.
No, it's the opposite.
They're doing the opposite of a parade.
They're doing a blockade.
They're trying to block the entrance of their own citizens to come back into their country.
They want nothing to do with them.
They want no association.
They believe them to be dangerous existential threats to their country.
So President Donald Trump starts to implement this policy.
And the president of Colombia probably said, oh, I'm going to be this stubborn person.
In fact, he said, if you've ever met somebody stubborn, I am the most stubborn person that you could possibly meet.
President Donald Trump says, okay, we're America.
You're Colombia.
We have cities that are wealthier than your entire country.
We're done.
And within hours...
The knee was bent.
Terms of surrender were brokered.
And just like that, in one day, Colombia and Gustavo Petro conceded to every single demand of the United States government.
This is big, everybody.
This is big.
We have not seen a president act like this.
In my lifetime, George W. Bush would never do this.
Barack Obama, and Biden, of course not, but the entire Biden staff, what Donald Trump did was mean.
And more importantly, what Donald Trump did was masculine.
The Biden regime was one of toxic femininity.
Feelings-based.
We can't offend the Colombian people.
We can't tell them what to do.
They might get upset with us.
No, the new ascendant masculine energy that is taking over the federal government in the best possible way is, no, no, we call the shots.
We're not going to allow our country to be a dumping ground.
Playtime is over.
Dad is home.
The statement writes as this last evening.
After all of this, the six steps, Trump sends the flights they refuse, Trump issues the threats, they dig in, Trump implements the threats, and then they capitulate.
It is full capitulation.
Quote, the government of Colombia has agreed to all of President Trump's terms, including the unrestricted acceptance of all illegal aliens from Colombia returned from the United States, including on U.S. military aircraft without limitation or delay.
Based on this agreement, the fully drafted IEPA tariffs and sanctions will be held in reserve and not signed unless Colombia fails to honor this agreement.
Let me just pause.
This is a sword of Damocles hanging over the Colombian government.
They have to accept all of the narco criminals, all of the child sex traffickers, all of the illegals, or else tariffs will be issued at any time.
The visa sanctions issued by the State Department and enhanced inspections from Customs and Border Patrol will remain in effect until the first plane load of Colombian deportees is successfully returned.
Today's events make clear to the world that America is respected again, and President Trump will continue to fiercely protect our nation's sovereignty.
And he expects all other nations of the world to fully cooperate in accepting the deportation of their citizens illegally present in the United States.
We are behaving like a country with dignity.
We took decades of abuse because we were ruled by people who hate Americans.
And Gustavo Petro just happened to be in the middle of it.
And now you better believe that there are meetings happening all across the region.
In fact, we have this document from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation from Honduras.
An urgent, extraordinary meeting of presidents and heads of states of CILAC, C-E-L-A-C, which I believe is the Council of Latin American Countries, and agenda items, migration environment and Latin American and Caribbean unity.
In this regard, it is reported that said meeting has scheduled in a hybrid format.
It is also worth noting that His Excellency, Gustavo Petro Urego, president of Colombia, Incoming PPT of Selec has confirmed his participation in this call.
And the Caribbean, which includes Haiti.
So all of the regional actors are now meeting today saying, oh my goodness, we have to accept our own people.
We have to accept our own people that we try to dump on America.
I want you to just think how perverse and sick this is.
That these countries are freaking out.
That they have to steward their own people.
They thought that they could just leave them at the doorstep of America.
They thought they could dump them into your neighborhoods, dump them on your college campuses where they murder people like Laken Riley and Rachel Morin.
They thought they could dump them into the interior of the United States.
And now all of a sudden, it's coming back.
They're coming back and they don't know what to do about it.
What is the counter argument from the Democrats?
Well, here's the great J.D. Vance, who was just phenomenal this weekend.
He's looking more and more.
Like he might be the 48th president of the United States.
Let's play cut 18. Founded by immigrants.
Well, this is a country founded by...
This is a very unique country.
And it was founded by some immigrants and some settlers.
But just because we were founded by immigrants doesn't mean that 240 years later that we have to have the dumbest immigration policy in the world.
As J.D. Vance clearly says, we don't have to have the dumbest immigration in the world.
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I have a non-sarcastic, provocative question.
What do they teach in these schools of diplomacy and statecraft?
What is it that they actually teach in the Woodrow Wilson School of Diplomacy?
Here in Washington, D.C., where we are doing this broadcast, you have George Washington, you have Georgetown.
Where you have people that study to become diplomats.
What exactly is taught in these schools?
Because President Donald Trump just upended all of the established order and he made fools out of all of them.
The experts were losing their mind yesterday.
President Donald Trump is trying to start a trade war.
They are so short-sighted and they're still criticizing it.
Well, that was unneeded drama.
That was unneeded pandemonium.
That was unnecessary upheaval.
No, it was a necessary public example, and now all these other countries are going to have to take their own people.
Now, to be honest, I understand the argument if we were sending Nicaraguans to Colombia.
That would not be a morally clear argument.
I would get that.
I would understand the argument if we were sending...
Mexicans to Brazil.
We're sending people back to their own country, the country they were raised in, the country that they were schooled in, the country they are citizens of.
And so for all of the international diplomatic corps expert class, what exactly are you experts in?
You're experts in appeasement?
You're experts in bending the knee?
Because they actually do not have any perspective to protect America at all costs.
These diplomats, it's not as if they're dumb.
It's as if they don't actually want America to succeed.
What this does is it suggests that diplomacy is mostly fake.
They have fake expertise.
That is exactly what I wanted to get at.
Is that all of this schooling, all of this time in colleges, all of this time where they're pretending that they're working in the State Department.
What really matters is instinct, very basic rules of interaction, and the most important thing, the will.
A common theme here on the Charlie Kirk Show.
Do you have the will to do what is necessary?
The feminine, toxically feminine perspective is to, well, we don't want to offend people, and I guess Colombia is a country, and, well, why don't we just keep their rapists and their criminals and their child sex traffickers?
Whereas President Trump says, this is stupid.
Why are we putting up with this?
We're not going to get ripped off.
We're not going to do stupid things.
You look out for your own country and your own people, and you don't need to be a lifelong State Department diplomat.
So for all of these lifelong State Department diplomats, I hope you guys understand that you have no credibility in the eyes of the American people.
The same way that we lost such credibility for public health officials during COVID, the same way that we lost credibility for people like Fauci and Birx, the same way that we lost credibility for all of the six feet to stop the spread and wear a mask when you shower, we are now losing credibility for all of our permanent State Department diplomatic corps, for Anthony Blinken, for even some of the Kissinger stuff.
I mean...
All of the criteria that has been built for diplomacy has just been upended in the last 24 hours.
It has all changed.
It is a permanent stark contrast.
What they're experts in is deteriorating borders, weakening the currency, and allowing a bunch of foreigners into the country.
Okay, that doesn't take a lot of skill.
What you just saw an amazing display of was President Trump rolling back the Great Reset.
Was President Trump rolling back all of this globalist push that was authored by, that was written by, that was published by the permanent State Department Corps?
The same people that brought you the Iran deal, the same people that brought you the Russian-Ukrainian war, the same people that brought you all of the major conflicts, the Iraq war, the conflict in Libya, the conflict in Syria.
Here you have a guy who was once president, a billionaire businessman, Who broke every single rule of Washington yesterday.
Threatened tariffs, implemented tariffs, revoked visas, said we're going to put on sanctions.
Every established dogma of D.C. was upended in the last 24 hours.
And he won, not just a little bit, a triumphant, full capitulation, absolute bend-the-knee surrender.
He broke all of the rules and it worked.
So what does that say about the rules?
Maybe these...
Couple thousand professional State Department diplomatic corps that we always kind of bow to as if they're the ones that keep us safe.
They're all frauds.
They're all fake.
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J.D. Vance.
How lucky are we to have J.D. Vance as vice president?
Now, just for fun, I had to kind of go back in my email inbox just to make sure I remembered the arc.
We went all in for J.D. Vance for U.S. Senate when it was unpopular, when people would call us names.
We went all in for J.D. Vance for the U.S. Senate on like day one.
And we used to get hundreds of angry emails of people who thought they knew better than us.
J.D. Vance is the worst.
You should be endorsing other candidates.
Why are you behind J.D. Vance?
We should actually look.
I think J.D. Vance joined the program at least 10 to 15 times.
At least.
In fact, the running joke is that I talked to J.D. Vance more on the show than off the show during the campaign.
J.D. Vance was on the program all the time.
In fact, his very famous cat lady remark, one of which was said on our program, we recognized his gifts early on.
I saw the talent and I said, this is the guy.
This is the one.
Now, I don't have a lot of gifts, but one of the gifts that I do have is spotting talent early.
I have a tendency to be able to do that.
And I could go through the list of some of the people, and you guys know the names, but from Ana Paulina on, a lot of the most talented people in the conservative movement got their start in the kind of turning point ranks.
And we liked him early.
But he's become so much better since then.
Yeah, and Blake's reminding me.
Including my wife, by the way.
I interviewed her for a job and I said, I think I'm going to move you up in what you're interviewing for.
J.D. Vance has become such a warrior for our cause in the past six months.
J.D. Vance sat down for his first lengthy interview with CBS News.
Margaret is her name.
Now...
I wouldn't actually know her name was Margaret if it wasn't for J.D. Vance's very infamous I-don't-care-Margaret exchange and quip.
But let me just press pause and say J.D. Vance is acting and looking like the vice president that Donald Trump needs, the vice president that Donald Trump deserves, and maybe beyond that, even the 48th president.
We're a long way from that.
We shouldn't even think or talk too much openly about that, but he's a rock star.
He gave an amazing speech at the March for Life.
He very quietly was working the phones to of course make sure that Pete Hegseth became the Secretary of Defense.
He is loyal.
He's smart.
He's capable.
He's humble.
He's phenomenal.
And what an upgrade from what we had during that last administration.
Here's J.D. Vance with Margaret from CBS News.
She's trying to think.
What is the best one to play here?
Let's just do the longer one.
Let's play cut two.
All these immigrants or all these refugees have been properly vetted.
In fact, we know that there are cases of people who allegedly were properly vetted and then were literally planning terrorist attacks on our country.
That happened during the campaign, if you may remember.
So clearly not all of these foreign nationals have been properly vetted.
No, but there are 30,000 people in the pipeline.
Afghan refugees.
But my primary concern as the Vice President, Margaret, is to look after the American people.
And now that we know that we have vetting problems with a lot of these refugee programs, we absolutely cannot unleash thousands of unvetted people into our country.
It's not good.
These people are vetted.
Just like the guy who planned a terrorist attack in Oklahoma a few months ago, he was allegedly properly vetted.
And many people in the media and the Democratic Party said that he was properly vetted.
Clearly he wasn't.
I don't want my children to share a neighborhood with people who are not properly vetted.
And because I don't want it for my kids, I'm not going to force any other American citizens' kids to do that either.
He has a superpower.
And I could tell you, as somebody who does this for a living, who debates all the time, I debate professors, I debate college kids, whoever wants to come up.
He has a superpower that I have to work hard towards achieving, and it seems as if he has this natural.
He has like that natural Joe DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth swing.
It's just, you look at it, you say, wow, that is, it's like Wayne Gretzky.
When you saw Wayne Gretzky on ice, you're like, okay, he works his tail off, but there's something that he was born with that you can't coach.
It's called talent.
J.D. Vance has a superpower.
Where he is able to remain remarkably calm, as if his heart rate is uninterrupted, as if he's on beta blockers, measured, despite hostile incoming enemy inquisition and fire.
I'm telling you, that is next level stuff.
He is able to stay cool, calm, collected in almost an effortless way.
Watching J.D. Vance.
Debate?
Because it basically does become a debate, let's be honest.
Be interviewed by Margaret Brennan is like watching Michael Jordan in Game 6. You just can't teach that.
Let's put up a screen on Margaret Brennan.
This is the face of liberalism in America.
Angry.
Nasty.
She looks pleasant.
And she got so outclassed by J.D. Vance.
I mean, it's just a completely different level.
It's like...
A kid on the varsity high school basketball team trying to go up against Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
It's not the same category.
It's such a category difference.
And Margaret really thought that she got him because she's got a bunch of 26-year-old Ivy League-educated producers.
Ooh, we're going to own J.D. Vance.
Say that we're a nation of immigrants.
You think that's the first time J.D.'s ever heard that?
J.D. continued with this interview.
Let's play Cut 13. Lowering prices for consumers.
We've seen all of these executive orders.
Which one lowers prices?
We have done a lot.
And there have been a number of executive orders that have caused already jobs to start coming back into our country, which is a core part of lowering prices.
More capital investment, more job creation in our economy is one of the things that's going to drive down prices for all consumers, but also raise wages so that people can afford to buy the things that they need.
And you ask specifically, what executive order is going to help lower prices?
All of the stuff that we've done on energy to explore more energy reserves, to develop more energy resources in the United States of America.
One of the main drivers of increased prices under the Biden administration is that we had a massive increase in energy prices.
Donald Trump has already taken multiple executive actions that are going to lower energy prices.
And I do believe that means consumers are going to see lower prices at the pump and at the grocery store.
Margaret has become a meme.
.
Because in one of the segments, J.D. Vance says, I don't care, Margaret.
He is able to be so firm when it comes to the policy positions of the Trump administration, defend it eloquently and smoothly, while also being incredibly likable and appealing.
Getting behind J.D. Vance in 2000 and what was it, 21?
Yeah, that's right.
2021, we endorsed J.D. Vance very early.
It's kind of like buying Bitcoin in 2013. It's a lot of upside.
It's a lot of upside.
People hear him and go, wait, this guy is great.
He got vilified so much earlier and it's got even better.
And everyone around me knows how much I believe in J.D. Vance.
I mean, I went all out twice for him.
First on the Senate thing and then on the vice presidential selection.
And do you know who deserves the credit here?
President Donald Trump deserves the credit.
For selecting him as the vice president.
It was an incredibly risky, unconventional, rule-breaking move.
There was so much pressure against that choice.
And he did it.
The establishment was against him.
The uniparty was against him.
And President Trump trusted his instinct.
And what a rock star, loyal, talented number two he has.
defending him every single day.
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Joining us now is a great man, Senator Rick Scott.
Senator, so good to see you again.
Senator, we were celebrating together Pete Hegseth's swearing-in ceremony at the White House on Saturday.
It was great to see you there.
Your reaction of Pete Hegseth becoming Secretary of Defense, even though it required a tie break.
Your reaction, Senator?
Well, Pete's going to do a great job.
I mean, you know what I like about Pete is he actually fought in a war.
He volunteered to do this.
He led troops.
He knows what it's like to be a warfighter.
He knows people have lost their lives.
He knows people have been injured.
So he's going to, one, make sure that we don't have DEI, we have the best people.
And number two, he's going to make sure we're not sending people in harm's way if we don't have a plan to win.
We're going to start winning instead of doing all these things where we just send our troops all over the world and have no plan.
We limit what they can do.
Pete's not going to let that happen.
So I'm really excited for him.
And so the confirmation fights are ongoing.
That one was a nail-biter.
What is the schedule this week for both votes and hearings?
What can we expect this week?
So the...
At this point, Obama had 13 cabinet members confirmed, and President Trump has four.
We'll have the Treasury Secretary confirmed tonight, and what we're going to be doing is we're going to be doing these all week.
We did the right thing by staying over the weekend.
Finally, the Democrats relented because they wanted to go home, but we didn't slow down our process.
So, unfortunately, it's going to take us longer because of the Democrats' obstruction, but President Trump has picked great people.
We are staying here to get his confirmations done.
They can slow down from a time standpoint, but they can't prevent these nominees from being confirmed.
So, Senator, I have been skeptical of Leader Thune on certain things.
I will say, though, I think he's moving at a rapid pace, and we have to give credit where credit is due.
Would you agree, Senator Scott, that Leader Thune has been operating at a very favorable pace, even one that is making the Democrats uncomfortable?
Absolutely.
So he's done the right thing.
One, he's bringing up bills, all right, that are Republican bills.
The first one is Lake and Riley.
We actually got some Democrat votes on that.
This week, we have the ICC bill that would have sanctions for people that support the ICC when they went out and indicted Netanyahu.
But with regard to nominations, he's doing it as quickly as he can with the Democrats' obstruction.
So maybe they'll eventually relent, but the only way they're going to relent is if we make them stay here and Leader Thun is doing that, so I'm very appreciative of what he's doing.
And Senator, you deserve a lot of credit for that, though, of really setting the pace and setting the standard of what...
We wanted to see and what productivity we wanted to see out of the U.S. Senate.
So, Senator, I want to now go to a separate topic here, which is talking about the California to Florida disasters.
I know that there's a big contrast here between what we're seeing in California.
Why is it that Florida is able to have such efficient, rapid response to hurricanes, and California seems it can't get out of its way when it comes to dealing with natural disasters?
Here's the difference.
In Florida, we know that it's our responsibility to take the lead.
So as an example, I had wildfires when I was governor.
I had four hurricanes.
And we didn't say, oh, let's wait and see if the federal government shows up and see if they'll help us solve this problem.
We went and solved the problem on our own, realizing the federal government can provide some financial resources, but they're not going to lead this.
They're not going to lead us out of this problem.
So if you look at North Carolina and look at California, their governors have thought, oh, the federal government's going to do all this.
We don't have to do it.
You look at California.
I don't know why they have wildfires.
One, they didn't have enough water.
Whose responsibility is that?
The governor's.
Number two, the reservoirs were not full.
Whose responsibility is that?
The governor.
So what you have to do is, one, you have to take responsibility to prevent it.
So in Florida, we've had some small wildfires, but we actually do prescribed burning in our forests.
To make sure we don't have a situation where we can get wildfires.
And then on top of that, when we do, which he had twice down in the Everglades when I was governor, we went and put them out quickly.
We put all resources, state and local resources.
We didn't wait for the federal government to show up.
In California, they think somebody else is going to solve their problems.
No one's solving your problem.
You've got to do this yourself.
The federal government can provide you some financial resources, but they don't have a whole bunch of first responders that they can send to solve your problem.
I think that is so well put.
What is your reaction to the president who wants to kind of change up FEMA, who wants to change the way that FEMA's done?
As someone who's dealt with FEMA and been in the weeds, what is the better way that we could run the Federal Emergency Management Authority or agency?
Well, number one, we need to make sure everyone understands the first responsibility is local, then state.
And then the federal government can provide some resources.
So I'll give you an example.
When I became governor, I had no idea why it was like this.
The federal government paid 75% and even more for debris pickup in our state when we had a hurricane.
I never understood why they did that, but they did.
But what that allowed is a whole bunch of fraud.
So I actually finally, it took me six years, I finally got a bill to crack down on that.
I finally got it passed in December.
Billions of dollars of fraud.
I probably saved the federal government over a billion dollars of fraud just in one hurricane, Hurricane Irma.
So you could take that for each piece of this.
The states need to be responsible.
The local governments need to be responsible.
Quit relying on the federal government to solve all your problems.
Otherwise, why do we have governors?
Why do we have mayors?
So I think what President Trump's in a position is to say, wait a minute, the federal government can't do everything.
They can do some things, but they can't do everything.
And the federal government is just on a piggy bank for everything that the local or state government wants done.
He knows we have $36 trillion for the debt.
We're running $2 trillion deficits.
We've got to get our fiscal house in order.
And part of it is stop wasting money.
So there's a better way to do, you know, after disasters, a better way for the federal government to be a partner.
Because what they do is, oh, it's just like the bridge in...
In Baltimore, the federal government is paying 100% of that.
There was a bridge built at the exact same time in Florida.
Why don't we have the problem?
Because when we built the bridge, we built barriers.
If a ship hit the edge, it didn't knock down the whole bridge.
But in Baltimore, they didn't want to do that for some reason.
And now the federal government somehow became, you as a taxpayer, in any other state, you're now responsible for building 100%.
100% building that bridge in Baltimore.
That makes no sense to the rest of the country.
Why isn't Baltimore responsible first?
Why isn't Maryland responsible first?
What a wise point.
So, Senator, I saw another tweet from you that I want to make sure we mention in our time together here.
You are enthusiastically supporting our mutual friend, Vivek Ramaswamy, for governor of Ohio.
I agree with you on that.
Tell us why you think Vivek will make such a great governor.
Well, I've gotten to know him over the last few years.
What a great guy.
Successful business guy.
I like business people that run for office, since that was my background.
Here's a guy that was very clear of things he wanted to accomplish to fix this country.
I've been working with Rigaudet Doge for the last few months, and now I'm excited.
I hope he decides to run for governor.
We need to have a really good governor.
A good friend of mine now is the governor of Indiana, Mike Braun, who did a great job in the U.S. Senate.
So governors matter.
If you want better jobs, if you want better schools, if you want better law enforcement, governors matter.
Vivek will do a great job in Ohio and continue to make sure Ohio is a leading state for education, for jobs, and for public safety.
Senator, I completely agree, and I'm behind Vivek Ramaswamy in whatever he does, and so I think he'll make a terrific governor of Ohio.
Last point here I want to dialogue with you, Senator, is this Colombian story the last 24 hours.
It's a very simple ask.
You have to accept the people that were released from your country, which illegally entered our country, back into your country.
What do you make of President Trump upending all of the traditional diplomatic rules and achieving a major accomplishment and victory for the American people?
Well, there's two new sheriffs in town.
One, Marco Rubio, Secretary of State.
And Donald Trump is president, right?
They clearly have let Petro, the president of Colombia, know that he is not going to play games, right?
So, you know, he prevented planes from landing with the illegal immigrants, and so immediately they went to work.
I talked to Marco about it a couple times yesterday.
They immediately went to work and said, okay, so if that's the plan you're going to have...
Then these are the things that are going to happen to you.
And he quickly capitulated.
He's even going to send the presidential plane to come get illegal immigrants to come here.
What they did to Petro is exactly what we need to be doing to every place.
Here's one thing I don't get.
If Mexico is allowing illegal immigrants from other countries to come through their country to come to our border, they should take every illegal immigrant back.
And they should be the ones that have to send them back to Colombia or Venezuela or wherever.
They're the ones that are allowing this to happen.
If not, we should hold Mexico accountable.
But any country that allows their citizens to come into our country illegally, you have to, one, take them back, and two, you are responsible for allowing this to happen.
And Petro is clearly responsible for what these individuals are doing.
He's made sure there's more drugs being produced.
Look, he was a cartel member.
I mean, here's a guy that wants more drugs to be sold.
And whoever his buddies, Diaz-Canel in Cuba, Maduro in Venezuela, Ortega.
So he is not our friend.
The people of Colombia, they're our friend.
They want to do business with us.
Florida, in particular, does a lot of business with Colombia.
But we can't do business with a president of Colombia that is a terrorist, which is exactly what he is.
No, and that's not an exaggeration.
I mean, he is responsible for the death of hundreds of Colombians.
He's also a Marxist and deeply unpopular.
I don't think he's going to last beyond the senator.
Thank you for your leadership.
Looking forward to having you on with some regularity.
And again, it was wonderful to celebrate with you at the White House to see Pete Hegseth get sworn in.
Thank you, Senator.
That was great.
Bye-bye, Charlie.
Have a great day.
Bye-bye.
Thank you.
Keep up the great work.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
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