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Sept. 19, 2024 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Iran Hacks the Election?
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Hey everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
This is Andrew Colvett, back for your intro.
But rest assured, Charlie's here.
He's just nursing a voice that sounds pretty bad.
You'll hear him in this episode.
So to save his voice, I'm going to be doing the intros today.
We talk about the new Iran hacking, the Trump campaign story, what it means.
What are they not telling you?
What's really kind of going on here?
And compare and contrast it to what happened with the Hunter Biden laptop story.
And then we also play back some of the tape from the rally in New York and explain why it's important to campaign in New York.
Make them play defense on their own terrain.
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This is Andrew Colvett, executive producer of This Fine Show, and I'm joined by Blake Neff, another one of our producers, and the man himself, Charlie Kirk, who's going to be doing some smiling.
Yeah, so Charlie woke up this morning with his voice.
His voice was completely gone.
It sounds great, Charlie.
You said, you told the audience, you warned him, actually, that you were going to work harder this year than any other previous election, any other previous year of your career.
And I think what you've done this last week Is a testament to how hard you work.
You have been crisscrossing the country.
You've been in Nebraska.
You've been in Wichita with Tucker.
You were in Pennsylvania yesterday with Vivek Ramaswamy, University of Pittsburgh.
You have, you have a pen today, right?
And so, I mean, I don't know how you do it, man.
I'm we're grateful that you've shown up this morning.
I don't know if you want to try and how much you want to try and Say hello, but the floor is yours if you want.
I got plenty of energy.
I just, uh, I just don't have a voice.
So, uh, we're gonna try to work through that.
Yep.
Absolutely.
You sound like you're in a Martin Scorsese movie, you know?
Like, you go east and you basically sound like a, like a mobster film extra.
Yeah.
Charlie, you're embracing the scene.
I'm here to help.
Yeah.
So we're going to start today off with the Iran, Iran, Iran story.
Blake, I don't know if you want to take it.
I could take lead here.
But this broke yesterday evening.
And, you know, the FBI saying there's nothing to see here, folks, except for the fact that Iran hacked the Trump campaign, sounds like in July, and then sent those emails to the then Biden campaign.
Blake.
Yeah, so, as you say, breaking yesterday.
There's been rumors about this going around before, so this is more the FBI elaborating on things that we'd already heard about.
But apparently, hackers allegedly linked with Iran managed to hack emails and other information from the Trump
campaign.
And according to the FBI, they then sent this information to the Joe Biden campaign, back when that was still nominally
a thing in existence.
And that's basically all we have at this point.
They don't say what the information was.
They claim that the Democrats didn't make use of it and the Democrats claim they've been cooperating with the FBI.
So we don't really have too much more off of it.
Obviously, Trump has made much more off of it.
I think it's very funny in general that this is a story, but it's a lot more muted than
certain things you may recall in 2020 or 2016 where, oh my god, they're hacking the Democrats.
This is an attack on our democracy. You remember all of the talk like that.
And of course we had approximately half a million, well exactly, okay it was 50, 50 intel experts, intel veterans who released that statement saying don't believe anything that comes out.
Bad about the Biden campaign because it's going to be Russian disinfo and you you notably are not Seeing them run ahead of the ball here where oh anything you release is going to be bad bad Iranian disinfo because they're worried about Trump and In fact, if anything, I feel like this story is setting up the opposite.
That they're saying, oh, the Democrats didn't leak it.
They're being good guys.
But if something bad about Trump drops in the last two weeks, I think the posture will be, well, presumably it's true because Iran got it directly from the Trump campaign.
So I think we're already seeing how reaction to these things can play out very differently through a partisan lens.
Yeah, Blake, that was my take as well here.
And if we roll back the clock, and gosh, Charlie, I remember doing this with you in some detail, is the fact that You know, actually, authorities had Hunter Biden's laptop all the way going back to October of 2019, and then spent a year getting ahead of that story in order to shield culpability from bad actors, namely Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, and anybody else attached to that story.
So they were doing tabletop exercises in Aspen with social media companies on how to get ahead of disinformation.
There was a concerted effort by the intel community to get ahead of that story.
Conversely, this is saying this is all authentic.
And the Democrats had nothing to do with it.
They didn't do anything wrong.
And nothing to see here, folks, except for the fact that we're Really good soldiers and we're policing the foreign influence in our elections and so Trump has come out Let's go ahead and show image 96.
I actually got a chuckle out of this because if you think about it Trump's on to something here actually because he's getting to just how Egregious this actually should be considered to be.
Wow, just out the FBI caught Iran spying on my campaign and giving all the information to the Kamala Harris campaign.
Therefore, she and her campaign were illegally spying on me to be known as the Iran, Iran, Iran case.
Will Kamala resign in disgrace from politics?
Will the communist left pick a new candidate to replace her?
Obviously, that's not going to happen.
But I think what Trump is doing is that He's getting ahead in his own way and sort of painting the stakes here and explaining this is a really, really big deal.
If they were complicit in any way, if they accepted it, if they looked at these emails, if they passed them around.
Now the FBI is saying they didn't do this.
And Democrats are saying we have really stringent protocols in place to avoid Looking at suspicious emails or working with foreign actors inadvertently.
So they're claiming that they're in the clear.
But again, something smells here a little bit, and it's namely because we've seen the pattern of behavior from Democrats in the past.
According to the FBI, it's kind of funny how they frame it.
They make it sound like Iran basically sent unsolicited emails to people connected to the Democratic president, that is, Joe Biden, and it says there's no evidence that any of the recipients responded.
And so I guess the defense is maybe all the emails literally just went into a spam filter.
You know, it's like a like a Nigerian scam or or one of you know, one of those scam emails you can get and it just went spam filtered.
Maybe that's how they did it.
It might not be the most sophisticated op, but it's also possible.
This is just it's very telling what they don't say.
There's no evidence any of them responded.
That's not the same thing as them not seeing it.
And like I said, I I'll have to double check this, but I'm pretty sure there's been a lot of rumors and discussion about hacked materials floating around about the Trump campaign and whether any of that will be used.
My suspicion is kind of that there's probably not that much to it.
In general, everything negative you are ever going to hear about Donald Trump and his campaign has been out there at this point.
It gets out there pretty efficiently.
And so I'm not sure what Iran was going to find.
This might matter if you were like a true blue Democrat believer who thinks that Trump really did collude with Russia, but he didn't.
I will say, I will say that, you know, one of the first things that came to my mind is, you know, there is a lot of coordination going on with the campaign, the campaign sort of playing quarterback that, you know, with a lot of the GOTV effort.
rule change. Now the campaign and the RNC can coordinate with different GOTV groups
like Turning Point Action. So there is data being shared, there is different things being shared.
And so you get the inside track on actual strategy that may be in play.
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Charlie is the walking wounded over here.
I just want everybody to know Charlie feels great.
He feels great.
He sounds like death, but... The voice is getting better, isn't it?
A little bit.
It's getting a little bit better.
It's getting a little bit better.
So we have the medic currently servicing Charlie and trying to nurse his voice back to health.
So Charlie sent me a note.
His big question with this Iran story, the Iran, Iran, Iran story, Did the Biden-Harris camp know foreign actors were doing this?
Did they report this immediately after they received the info?
I think that's a TBD, Charlie.
I don't think we know the answer here yet.
And it seems like the FBI is doing everything they can to sort of shield them from culpability here, which again, is just completely different than the vibe that we got in the Hunter Biden laptop story or any number of other stories, where if Trump is implicated, then it's the worst possible There are real and serious threats.
from our intel community and this seems like they're kind of trying to shield him from
any claim.
So I want to play Cut 98 here.
I have something to say here.
Play Cut 98.
On Wednesday, the president and vice chairman of Microsoft issuing a stark warning to Congress.
There are real and serious threats.
And it is an election where Russia, Iran and China are united with a common interest in
in discrediting democracy in the eyes of our own voters.
But this has also become an election of Iran versus Trump and Russia versus Harris.
OK, so I will speak on behalf of Charlie here so that he can take a break.
He says that this is definitely not the election.
The election is not Iran versus Trump.
It is not Russia versus Harris.
It is Trump versus Harris.
And it's also the ruling class versus the people.
And when they set up this framing of Iran versus Trump, Russia versus Harris, what they're basically doing is, you know, your vote this November is voting for which country you're going to go to war with.
But you've got to go to war with someone.
You can't vote for peace.
You are voting for war, no matter what.
So get ready.
It's going to be a fun ride.
It's very wild that they do this.
Again, we basically have a story of Iran hacked some emails, and they do this over and over.
It's always the temptation of the security state, the DC establishment, to stoke conflict with foreign powers, both because they benefit from it, and just because it's what they've been doing for decades.
They don't really know another way to exist.
Which is why they were so furious when Trump tried to choose a different path and they're so unhinged at the idea that he might come back in with a anti-war program.
So we have to be alert to how they are framing these things because they would like nothing better than if they do get Trump back in to still drag us into some sort of dumb war that we absolutely do not need.
We saw them try it many times in his first term.
Yeah.
And this is I think this is the point that Yeah, the point that Charlie's making here is like, you know, Trump wins, we get Iran, a war with Iran.
Kamala wins, we get a war with Russia.
And to your point, Blake, I think it's something that we've talked about on the has become so bloated and so large and so powerful that they have a reason for being, right?
Their reason for being is to look for potential conflicts everywhere.
This is their full-time job.
We have thousands and thousands of personnel dedicated to this.
And so they insert themselves into domestic policy by way of these foreign interference threats, by these press conferences.
And all of this becomes the domestic main reason, main policy, main reason for being for us here domestically,
because we have funded these people to stoke conflict and to create conflict,
and Trump is an existential threat to them.
And so of course they're going to insert themselves 60 days before an election.
Of course they're going to insert themselves 40 days before an election.
So this is, I think the point is, is that Charlie's making is that they are essentially
asserting their importance here.
They're asserting the fact that America is going to be at a place of forever war, whether we like it or not.
I'd like to flag, it's amazing that our security state is so eager to start, you know, at a minimum, look, can we please get a war with Iran at least if Trump wins?
It's not talked about much, but in addition to humiliating, the humiliation in Afghanistan, Joe Biden's been losing another war right now.
He's been, we've been bombing the Houthis in Yemen ever since October 7th and we have failed.
If you check that conflict, the United States Navy has lost that war.
The United States Air Force has lost that war.
So, just another reason to not vote for continuing the war status quo.
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We should move on to the Trump rally that happened last night on Long Island.
Now, this was a zany story, Blake and Charlie.
Yesterday, if you remember, we started the day thinking that Trump was going to be the victim of a third attempted assassination plot.
It turned out that was Not true.
It was a false alarm.
There was some sort of mishap that happened with a canine unit that was doing sort of explosive work.
They were trying to detect explosives with a canine unit.
And that turned out, thankfully, to be a false alarm, according to Nassau PD.
But it was actually sort of the story behind the story that there were so many people early in the morning already lining up for this rally in New York.
Which, I have to say, Blake and Charlie, was one of the most high-energy, best rallies that Trump has hosted in some time.
Now, I like to think that the one that Turning Point hosted in Gilbert was even better, And RFK endorsed him, you know, but perhaps I'm biased, but you could absolutely tell from the tone and tenor of President Trump yesterday evening that he loves being in New York.
It's like something about being in his home state.
It takes him to another level.
And I think we saw that on full display last night.
Yeah, we have some footage of the rally, which I think is quite electric.
I didn't watch it myself, I was listening to Mark Halpern talk about it on his two-way yesterday.
We like our Mark Halpern here, and he said, It fits into something we've talked about that Trump's campaign has really tried to this is weird to say like You know they've tried to show the soft more personal side of of Trump where he's often at his best You know like when he went to East Palestine when he's just sort of interacting with
With people one-to-one, you get a lot of great content that can go very viral online.
And I think that was a big reason he went to New York.
He's going there, of course, to boost New York Republicans.
A lot of New York Republicans really like Trump.
But he's also going there because I think it gets him in his home element.
He's not originally from Florida.
He's originally from New York.
And they receive him really well, and he has a lot of fun with it.
Here, let's just play some of the clips from it.
How about number 100?
I am announcing tonight that, as president, I will officially make the Ground Zero site at the World Trade Center a national monument, protected and maintained by the United States government, so that hallowed ground and the memory of those who perished there will be preserved for all time, preserved forever.
Now, if you're a New Yorker, that is a pretty important thing to hear.
I think it hits harder if you are from New York.
Now, this is a debate that we talk about on this show.
You know, Trump is not going to win New York, most likely, right?
Now, I see that.
He's not.
Yeah, there's people in this audience that are gonna be like, no, New York's in play, New York's in play.
It's like, listen, I actually love him going to New York.
I'm not anti him going to New York.
I am pro him going to New York, actually.
First of all, it's a great place to raise money.
And he was getting some amazing, amazing viral clips.
He was the first president in American history to make a Bitcoin transaction earlier in the day.
And then he also had this great viral clip with Liam, who's a eight year old with a rare brain disorder.
We're gonna play that clip in just a second.
These things matter.
And it also matters that he's playing offense on their terrain.
So it has a compounding effect, and I think a positive effect across many different channels, and it has many different impacts.
And so whether or not he actually has a real chance to win New York, to me, is secondary to the fact that, A, it's a great place to raise money, B, you get viral clips, and C, you're saying to the world, we're confident in our campaign.
And I believe when you do this and you play You are actually helping boost states like Virginia, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Mexico, these states that are sort of second tier targets for the campaign, that hey, if we run the inside straight on election night, and it turns out that we've got more support than the polling has indicated, you might end up picking off of Virginia.
You might end up picking off a New Hampshire.
You might end up picking off an NE2.
And we can talk about that in just a little bit.
But that I think that's actually under underneath the sort of play for New York, which everybody wants New York to go red.
It would be the first time since Reagan.
I think underneath it, it just sends a message of confidence to the entire electorate and to his base that we're playing to win.
We're playing aggressively.
And there's a lot of there's there's a lot more states at play than the media would have you have you think.
Charlie?
I agree with that.
I'm trying my best here, but Trump is at his best when he plays offense.
Trump is at his best when he plays offense.
And being in New York, he was also raising money there yesterday.
So I was pleased to see it.
Good.
How about we get into the Nebraska thing?
We get emails about this all the time.
We know people want updates on it.
Well, hold on.
First of all, I want to underscore a point I made here.
Which is one of the reasons I lost my voice.
For the record, Nebraska News is one of the reasons I lost my voice.
Because I didn't get a chance to take a traditional Shabbat.
And instead, we brought the whole team out to Nebraska.
And yeah, we talked all day long and went to a football game, all that stuff.
And we have some good news Blake can share.
Do you want to hit your last thing, Andrew, or should I just get into it?
All right.
This is Liam.
Everybody I've showed this clip to ends up getting He's eight years old.
He has a rare brain disorder.
Trump found out about it, sent him a letter on his birthday, which is part of this clip, I believe.
Maybe Ryan cut it short.
If you don't, get the original too, Ryan.
But the 102 is Trump took time before he went on stage.
He even gave Liam a shout out from stage last night.
He took time to deliver him a present.
And I guess Liam got good seats at the rally last night.
So let's go ahead and play Cut 102.
I'm supposed to be at that stage, but that doesn't matter.
Because I got you the best present you'll ever have.
This is the best present you'll ever have.
How are you?
Bob?
Hi, Mom.
Hi.
Okay, honey.
This is yours.
And in there is real good stuff.
Okay?
So beautiful.
Thank you.
See?
Look at that.
One of these great photographers.
We're going to have that picture for life.
Okay?
You and I. Is she going to come out and watch me?
Of course.
So, Charlie, you were blowing us up about this when you saw this clip last night.
system ready.
So why don't we do this?
Take care of yourself.
It's okay, I'm going to go right after this.
Take care of yourself, honey, okay?
I wish I looked like that if I looked like that if he was president.
So Charlie, you were blowing us up about this when you saw this clip last night.
You were like, this is President Trump at his best.
He is a man of the people.
I mean, certainly this, this is a, the more private interactions, the better.
Trump 2.0 more local, more retail, more, more viral clips.
This is Charlie's advice to the campaign.
Less rallies, more intimate show the human side of president Trump.
And this was, this was that moment.
And this was a followup to what we saw, I think just probably like four or five days ago.
Can you read it?
Out loud?
Sure!
carefully. Can you read it? Out loud? Sure. It says, Dear Liam, Happy 8th birthday.
Mrs. Trump and I hope you enjoy this special occasion surrounded by the love of your family and friends.
We are so encouraged by the strength and determination you have shown throughout your young life and send our love and best wishes to you as you continue to fight.
Remember you are never alone and we are keeping you in our thoughts and prayers for continued health, for continued care and good health.
May God bless you and your family.
Stay strong, sincerely.
Can you tell me who signed that?
Donald Trump.
He knew it was your birthday coming up?
What do you say to him?
Thank you.
I love you.
What else do we say?
Thank you.
Maybe it's just because I have three little kids, but that clip absolutely ruins me to see how happy this kid who's had such a tough life with this brain disorder reacting to President Trump, giving him a personal note there.
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Blake, Charlie, I'm going to let you guys run point here on the Nebraska news,
but suffice to say, it's a live ball.
Nebraska winner take all is a live ball.
Yeah.
So let me speak as much as I can about this, which is not a lot, both literally and metaphorically, by the way.
So we were in Nebraska this last weekend.
We had some private meetings.
We also did a lot of stuff, a man on the street.
And there hasn't been a lot of news on winner take all, but I'm going to have Blake walk you through what is now public.
Sure thing, Charlie.
So first of all, just in case people have forgotten or you weren't around here in the springtime when we first really started talking about this, what matters here?
So Nebraska is one of two states, Maine is the other, that doesn't award all its electoral votes to the statewide winner automatically.
Instead, they give single electoral votes For each district in the state.
And that's not a great thing because one of Nebraska's districts is essentially just Omaha and the area immediately around it.
And notably Joe Biden won that in 2020.
I believe Barack Obama won it in 2008.
So it's a district that can go blue.
And given Nebraska's overall a very Republican state, it's basically just handing Democrats a free electoral vote now in this election.
In the past, that didn't matter too much, but due to the census realignment we've had since 2020, states have changed their electoral vote totals, and the situation is such that it's highly—it's not the most likely scenario, but it's quite plausible that we would get a 270 to 268 Democrat win.
For example, if Kamala Harris holds on to Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, and we get the other swing states, That actually is a 270-268 Democrat win.
If we make Nebraska win or take all, it's 269-269, goes to the House, we have a shot.
There's other scenarios similar to that.
So, we have been fighting very hard at this show to get Nebraska to convene a special legislative session and make their state win or take all In November.
They absolutely can do this.
They have a Republican supermajority in their legislature.
They have the ability to call a special session.
This could be done.
And so we've been fighting hard for it.
Several of our allies in Nebraska have been fighting for it.
And we were there this past weekend to urge them to take this up and at least make sure
if it doesn't happen that we did everything possible to bring it about so that we don't
feel what could have been.
And we can't say everything that's happened.
It'll probably make a funny story one day if this all works out.
But what we can say is yesterday the entire Nebraska congressional delegation, so that's
Mike Flood, Deb Fischer, Pete Ricketts, Don Bacon, and Adrian Smith, that's their House
members and their senators, they all released a letter they had signed encouraging Governor
Pillen and Speaker Arch of the Nebraska Legislature.
They called on them to to implement winner-take-all.
This is useful, I believe, because especially Don Bacon, he represents that Omaha district, and one of the justifications for not doing this is that it would make him more vulnerable in this election.
So we want to praise him for, if there is that risk, that he sees that the country is more important.
Winning this election is the most important thing.
We also, I know this is going to sound funny to you, but Senator Lindsey Graham lady Graham was in we're gonna call him Lindsey Graham for this one.
He was in Nebraska on Wednesday.
He also met with lawmakers in that state Encouraging them to adopt winner-take-all and really laying out why this is so important as a national issue This is not a Nebraska thing.
It's not some peculiar local issue.
This is of national importance and could save the country so We'll thank Senator Lindsey Graham for this one, for getting behind us on this issue.
And so, we're not there yet, but there's momentum building for one last push.
This is from the Nebraska Examiner, and basically one of the holdouts has been Senator Mike McDonald of Omaha, and he switched from Democrat to Republican earlier this year, but he said at the time he would never support winner-take-all.
Five people attending the meeting confirmed that McDonald told the group he was looking for ways to get to yes.
So that's a huge update.
And then it's also from this, several who attended the meeting said some senators who had wavered earlier showed more support now for changing Nebraska to a winner-take-all system of awarding electoral votes this year.
Those are huge updates.
To see that McDonald's is coming around is probably the key.
If you do the math, McDonald's becomes basically the key vote.
Thanks so much for listening everybody and bearing with us as Charlie nurses his voice.
Thanks so much.
Talk to you soon.
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