Ray Epps Files Suit...and Gets Arrested? with Darren Beattie and Nick Ayers
Ray Epps is the only major figure on January 6 to be celebrated by liberals in Congress, profiled by the New York Times, and almost totally ignored by the DOJ. For two years, conservatives have pointed out this bizarre state of affairs. Now, Epps is responding with a defamation lawsuit, backed by some of the most sinister figures on the left. Plus, in a strange and horrifying twist, most American diaper companies are proudly pro-abortion. Charlie's friend Nick Ayers talks about the launch of EveryLife.com, a pro-life diaper maker, and also shares the incredible story of how he and his wife were told they would never have children, only to successfully have triplets.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome to the program, Nick Ayers.
Nick Ayers is a great American.
I've known Nick for years, and we've done a lot of things together.
And Nick has a really exciting announcement, a huge announcement with our friends at Public Square, publicsq.com, being a new father and spending the GDP of Kenya on diapers.
I totally understand that this is a necessary announcement to no longer fund the woke weasels that run most of the diaper companies.
Nick Ayers, what is going on?
Charlie, it's always great to be with you.
Congratulations on all you're doing.
And we have known each other for a decade now.
And I'm proud of how you fought the good fight and how you've managed to go about your business and the difference you're making.
And yeah, today's an exciting day.
Faith Rooted Diaper Company00:15:26
You know, the most important thing in my life outside of my faith in Christ that happened in high school is when Jamie and I had a miraculous pregnancy.
And Charlie, I think you know a little bit about our story, but we were promised that it was medically impossible that we would never have our own children.
And a few years later, truly had a miracle in every respect.
And we found out that she was pregnant with three babies.
And very quickly after that, we were also then assured that one of them, referred to as Baby C, had a 0% chance of life.
And the doctors strongly encouraged us, not only very early in the pregnancy, at seven and eight weeks, but as late as six months into the pregnancy, they pleaded and begged with us to terminate Baby C because they said Baby C had a 0% chance of life and it would cost us the opportunity to have healthy twins.
And Jamie and I, in a way that only can be attributed to our faith, had a peace that surpassed all understanding.
And we just, we felt like we knew we were not the author or the creator of life.
This was not our decision to make.
And we trusted the Lord with any outcome.
And he blessed us beyond, as he usually does, what we deserve and what we could have ever imagined.
And so those three children, for me, are living stones of the sovereignty of God and how he honors obedience.
And I cannot think of any more mission critical, especially where our nation is today, than to give parents, grandparents, and people who believe what you and I believe an opportunity to align their values with a company that cares that much about the innocence of every life.
And that's exactly why we launched Every Life this morning was to give every baby a chance to say that we cherish and protect and celebrate every baby, irrespective of race, of gender, that we want them all to have an opportunity.
And you would think, Charlie, that that would be something that's like, well, yeah, that's great.
That's what every diaper company should do.
But your listeners, your viewers won't be surprised to learn that, in fact, it's not.
There are a litany of, you know, every household diaper brand name that you and I could rattle off are very public about and proud of the fact that some support their employees by matching their donations to Planned Parenthood, or they pay for them to travel and have abortions.
And look, the great thing about our country is that we're free.
People are free to make their own decisions and determinations.
I think that's crazy for especially a diaper company.
And it's exactly why we launched Every Life this morning.
So, for example, there is a company, Cordier or something like that, Cordier, I don't know how to pronounce it.
Apparently, you know, we buy diapers from them a lot.
We get these like big shipments of them, but apparently they are like pro-abortion.
It's amazing.
I mean, how could I just hope everyone understands these for every parent out there that every major diaper company out there is pro-abortion, pro-abortion.
And so you would think that if you're in the diaper business, you would want more babies.
Like of all the businesses where you would want more children, Procter Gamble said its new travel policy will cover workers who can't access care from a provider to terminate their pregnancy and kill their baby.
The conglomerate, which makes household products such as Pampers and Tide, employs 26,000 people in the United States and is based in Ohio, which has an abortion ban.
And so this is extraordinary to me.
It's everylife.com.
My wife and I were already placed our order.
You guys should too.
Everylife.com.
I want to play a clip here.
Let's play Cut 87.
While so many companies are promoting what is wrong, we choose to celebrate what is right.
Life.
Every miracle from God.
Boy and girl.
Black, tan, and white.
Planned and unplanned.
Gifted and special.
Every one of them is celebrated here.
Every life.
We're changing diapers changes lives.
It's so simple.
If you're a mother out there, if you're buying diapers and you've got to go to Every Life.
Otherwise, you are funding pro-abortion companies with your diaper purchases.
Nick Airs.
Charlie, what I would tell you about the product, you know, the mission almost makes me tear up.
I've gotten very soft as a father.
This is a very emotional and joyful subject for me.
While I know our values are excellence, you know, we celebrate life.
We stand with integrity.
We're going to champion parenthood.
And this company is rooted in faith.
I would put our values and our mission and our vision, which is all available on the website, up against any company in the world.
I'm so proud of them and I'm so excited about it.
But sometimes you and I have seen companies that are grounded in some wonderful things have cut corners when it comes to the delivery or the excellence of the product.
And what your listeners, hopefully our future customers have our commitment on is that there were no corners cut.
This is a premium diaper where we eliminated the plastics and the toxins and the chemicals that moms especially rightly really care about, things that affect or could affect the development of the baby's brain and body.
All of that was eliminated.
This is a premium diaper at an affordable price.
You can order it directly from EveryLife.com, Charlie.
And I think you all have a promo code.
We're offering a big discount to your listeners, and then we ship it.
Any order over $50 or ship directly to your customer's door.
And you're exactly right.
Look, the conviction I had after leaving the White House was a simple one.
Winning elections every two or four years is not enough.
You know, all of us are participating in the electoral cycle, and we're voting.
That's great.
That's one day every two years or one day every four years.
So the question becomes, what are we doing with all of our other time?
Look, I'm a happy person.
I'm full of joy.
I love my family.
I love this nation.
I love life.
I don't want to go around and be downtrodden about the future of the company.
And we could focus on all the negative things.
And there's some really dark things.
We want people to have products and companies and causes that bring joy and hope and unity.
And that's exactly what Every Life sets out to do, which brings me to this point.
Voting is not enough.
You should do that.
But every time you swipe your card, every time you pay with your phone or hand somebody a dollar bill in this economy, based on ESG and DEI and what's going on in corporate boardrooms, you're voting with your dollars, whether you like it or not.
So if you're not researching the companies, like you just went through a lot of research on Coterie and Procter ⁇ Gamble and Unilever and that's just publicly available information.
If consumers who share our values are not wising up and researching, who am I sharing my hard-earned capital or hard-earned money with?
Because these companies, they are aggressively using their profits for social engineering, politics, and things way outside what built a lot of these great companies, which were Judeo-Christian values, American values, and excellence.
They're far more concerned with appeasing the CPP and how to become a global company.
And they have detached themselves from the values that built this country.
And so the opportunity that we have with Every Life and companies like this is to vote every day with our dollar.
Vote with your card, vote with your feet.
Every single day is a test.
We cannot afford to just not care.
It can't happen because the bad guys care more than we do right now.
They diabolically care.
If you don't care, you are collaborating in your slow motion destruction.
PublicSQ.com is the mothership.
Everylife.com is where you go.
Promo code Charlie10.
I want everybody in the audience to buy diapers for either your, if you need them in the immediate or send them to your daughter who has a kid.
Send them to your granddaughter that has a kid.
Everylife.com and say enough funding these pro-abortion diaper companies.
I mean, could you think of something sicker?
Everylife.com is a terrific website.
You guys can check it out.
Clean premium diapers for every miracle.
And Nick is not kidding.
This is a high-quality product.
This is not some sort of toxin-filled stuff.
It is the best stuff.
It's really good.
So it's everylife.com.
So, hey, Nick, can you just build out even further the big picture vision, the telos of public square to be the navigational tool, to be the place where we can shop our values?
There's 75 to 80 million people that we know are on the center right that, let's just say, vote Republican, and they are not represented at all in corporate America.
In fact, they are antagonized daily.
Talk about the market opportunity and how publicsq.com seeks to solve that.
Yeah, what Michael Seifert and the team at Public Square has built, Charlie, as you know, is absolutely amazing.
It's why I invested in the company last year.
It's how they've achieved supernatural growth in the last year, jumping to over 1.1 million people on the platform, over 55,000 businesses on the platform.
And as we thought about launching Every Life, you know, the question was really who better in the world to co-found this company with than Public Square, which is the wholly owned subsidiary.
So just as you mentioned, Unilever or excuse me, Kimberly Clark and Procter Gamble own Pampers and Huggies.
We have the benefit of being wholly owned by Public Square, which means our values, our mission, our vision for life, and the desire to protect every innocent child from above and consider them all a miracle from God.
That'll never be changed in a boardroom.
And yet, Public Square is on a rocket ship trajectory of its own.
Next week, they'll be listed on the New York Stock Exchange.
Michael, Omid, myself, many other early investors in the company will ring the opening bell of the stock exchange next Tuesday morning, which is a sign of just the incredible momentum Public Square has around it.
Look, corporate boardrooms have written off half the country who share our values, who love this country and who love capitalism.
That creates a huge opportunity for a platform like Public Square to create a market of commerce of like-minded people so that if you believe what you believe, Charlie, if you believe what I believe, we can go to Public Square to the app or publicsq.com and find 55,000 plus other businesses like EveryLife.
And the miracle of EveryLife, and there are many of them, is that we didn't guess about creating this business.
We knew there was a demand.
We knew there was a need, especially in the backlash of Target.
Michael could see that there were many, many searches of usually moms out there looking for alternatives to Hello Bellow, Honest, Pampers, and Huggies.
They did not want to shop at retail stores like Target where they were buying the diapers.
And so we know that there are, you know, 75 to 100 million plus Americans who share these values and who are looking for companies that will affirm that while delivering excellent products at fair prices.
And that's exactly what EveryLife will do.
Everylife.com.
Nick Ayres, you're doing a wonderful job.
Michael Seifert is doing a great job.
Public Square is going to have a big presence here.
I'm going to reiterate the call to action.
If you're a mom, if you're a grandma, if you are part of a pro-life clinic, a church, diapers are an annuity.
And the big uglies, Procter Gamble and all these people, they are funding abortions while also selling diapers.
It's unsustainable.
Got to stop it.
Promo code Charlie10.
Let's have everybody in the audience go to everylife.com, promo code Charlie10.
Nick, do you have a final thought?
One minute remaining?
Yeah, I have one final thought, which is while these companies are giving to organizations and causes that destroy innocent life, I want to be clear about something.
Look, we want to run a great business and we will do that.
But we're also going to be charitable and we're going to put our money where our mouth is.
And so we are already proud to support, and that support's only going to grow as a business grows.
Incredible organizations like what Lila Rose is doing at Live Action, incredible organizations like Save the Storks.
There's an unbelievable nonprofit in just north of Atlanta, Georgia, called Faithbridge that recruits and trains godly foster parents to take in the neediest and most vulnerable children.
EveryLife wants to provide nonprofits like that with premium diapers at no cost.
So every time people buy from us, not only are they going to get an excellent product in return, they're going to empower us to share those products with the brave mothers out there who have chosen life.
Nick Ayers, everybody, everylife.com promo code Charlie10.
Call to action.
Let's go.
Let's sell them out.
Okay.
Let's sell them out of everylife.com.
Promo code Charlie10.
Nick, thank you so much.
No, thank you, Charlie.
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Fox Defamation Lawsuit Claims00:09:20
Joining us now is Darren Beattie.
There's a new lawsuit that's been filed.
Ray Epps has now filed a lawsuit against Fox News saying that his life is ruined and damaged because Tucker Carlson alluded to the fact that he might have been a federal agent, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.
He says, I'm not a federal agent.
And in his lawsuit, he says, by the way, I'm going to get arrested soon by the Department of Justice because of Tucker Carlson.
Because a journalist did his job and exposed that I was in the capital.
I shouldn't have been there.
It is one of the weakest, strangest lawsuits that I have ever seen.
I believe it is composed with the intent to try to scare Fox into settling into another Dominion-style settlement.
Darren Beattie from Revolver.news joins us.
Darren, your reaction to the Ray Epps lawsuit and walk our audience through it.
Great to be here, Charlie.
And yes, there are many important dimensions to this case.
We did a full treatment of it, so people should go to Revolver.news and read the definitive analysis of this development.
There are a couple of things I should say off the bat.
For one, technically speaking, this is a lawsuit from Ray Epps, his lawyers, against Fox News.
Although I am named extensively in the complaint, including as the chief purveyor, they basically blame me for the Epps story, which I suppose is correct.
And the Epps story does come from Revolver News.
So they're correct, at least as far as that.
And of course, Tucker is prominently featured.
Tucker himself and myself and Revolver News, we are not defendants in this complaint.
It is technically now just a complaint against Fox News, which is kind of ironic.
You mentioned the possibility that Fox would settle.
I think it is overwhelmingly likely that Fox News will settle.
We saw that Fox was a soft target with Dominion.
They settled unnecessarily for an insane amount, close to a billion dollars.
They didn't have to, by the way.
They just chose to do that.
So I think Epps' lawyers decided Fox is going to be a soft target and want to settle.
And when you think about it from Fox's standpoint, weirdly enough, it is kind of in their interest to settle because by doing so, they can reinforce the narrative that Tucker was indeed a liability for them and that they made the right decision in firing.
So there's that dimension.
So if Fox were to settle, it would serve Fox's interests in that respect.
It would also serve the regime's interests because the regime janitors in the media could report incorrectly, but they could report on the basis of a settlement that the EPS reporting of Revolver News that Tucker amplified, that this has been discredited in court.
And of course, the chilling effect is very real.
I already know firsthand of at least one major conservative media institution, not Fox, that has decided not to report on Epps at all due to fear of a lawsuit.
So a settlement in Fox's case would simply intensify the chilling effect.
So that's sort of contextually something important to put out there.
Then there's the substance of the case, which is ridiculous.
And in fact, we're working on a follow-up piece that should be out either this evening or tomorrow morning, which will absolutely eviscerate the legal foundations of this claim as a matter of defamation law.
It's ridiculous.
There's no defamation coming from Tucker.
There's no defamation coming from Revolver News.
All of the reporting was absolutely legitimate.
And, you know, if you can't ask questions about this guy, Ray Epps, go and read the original Revolver.news piece and watch the video and then tell yourself this is the only January 6th participant that the DOJ has been protecting for over two and a half years,
that the New York Times writes a fully dedicated tough piece on that's continued to this more recent coverage, that 60 Minutes did a sympathy segment on where they wouldn't even have me on to offer the opposing viewpoint.
They led me on.
The producer said, oh, yeah, we're going to have you on, you have you on.
And then I guess they realized even with their splice and dice, even with their editorial tactics, it would be too dangerous to have me on because the case against him is so overwhelming.
So he's got a 60 minutes sympathy piece.
And of course, he's the only January 6th participant that Adam Kinsinger, a man who spends a lot of the day on all fours and who's never met a January 6th participant he didn't want to see in jail for over 50 years.
Epps is the only January 6th guy that Adam Kinsinger will defend.
And to add to the list of unusual and perhaps suspicious bedfellows for Epps, let's look at the legal representation for Epps in this defamation tour that he's doing.
He is represented by none other than Michael Cater, who is an individual who comes from deep within the bowels of the Democrat establishment's nexus with the national security state.
He's an employee of the notorious Democrat hatchet man David Brock.
He is a former employee of the notorious and disgraced law firm Perkins Coi, that was basically the laboratory out of which the whole Russia hoax and steel dossier was concocted.
And so the political motivations for these individuals clear.
They want to take out Tucker and they want to take out me.
But the first step will be Fox News and get the settlement and then they'll decide whether it's worthwhile going after me and Tucker.
But it's obviously an evolving story and it's one of great interest.
And I mean, what more example do you need of the level of sensitivity that Gray Epps introduces for the regime?
They are really pulling out all of the stuffs to prevent anyone from talking about EPS and from amplifying the coverage on EPS that Revolver.news and Tucker Carlson have already done.
So, Darren, help me understand how could it be defamation to say that someone might work for the federal government.
That's not like calling somebody a Nazi or a rapist.
His claim that I'm not a Fed since you could see I'm getting arrested and therefore pay me money because my life is ruined because you said I might be on federal government payroll.
Help me understand this claim, Darren.
Right.
Well, as I said, we're working on the definitive takedown of Epps's claim from a legal perspective.
It gets into some of the intricacies of defamation law, which are very interesting.
And the questions you raise are very interesting and legitimate.
The idea of defamation is reputational damage.
That's the underlying principle of defamation.
And there's a principle called defamation per se, which means it's the nature of the alleged libel is so severe that it's in a special category where you don't even have to prove damages.
There's no claim of defamation per se here.
Even, you know, you and I, anyone who, you know, tries to defend America has been called a Nazi white supremacist, everything.
Unfortunately, those accusations, which really do incur severe reputational damage in modern United States, those are not considered defamation per se, which I think they should be, but they're not.
And so they're not claiming defamation per se in the case of these claims that he may have been a federal agent or working on behalf of a third party and so forth.
And so they have to claim damages as well and also claim intentional malice because he's a public figure.
So they have to meet all of those standards.
But back to your original question, which gets to the core of their claim here, is that is it reputationally worse for Epp to be what it seems from the video that he is an active participant in what the regime calls an insurrection and one of the worst terrorist attacks in American history, domestic terror attacks, in American history?
Is that reputationally worse for him than saying, oh, he was actually working on behalf of the government in some capacity?
Seems at the very least that reputationally he'd be worse off to be the criminal domestic extremist rather than somebody working with some kind of imprimater from the government.
So it's kind of an interesting question in that respect.
And like I said, it's a question that we will address comprehensively in a forthcoming piece that gets into the weeds of the legal question, which is actually very fascinating.
Andrew Tate Military Accusations00:06:50
I wish we had more time.
Everyone, check out Revolver.news.
Darren, you're doing a wonderful job.
And if the bad guys try to sue you or whatever, we have your back 100%.
And I know the millions of people in our audience do as well.
Darren, you've done great work and you're asking the right questions and you're getting closer to the truth.
Darren, great job.
Thanks so much.
Thank you.
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Yesterday, I didn't get a chance to dive into this comprehensively with the Andrew Tate stuff.
I was saying, and we had the interview with Paul Manafort, so I was starting and stopping and starting and stopping.
So Andrew Tate is one of the most hated men in the world.
We're supposed to hate him.
I don't know if he did rape a woman.
I doubt it.
I don't know if he trafficked people.
I doubt it.
But that's what he's under accusations of.
I'm told that he ran a cam girl business.
I don't like that, obviously.
But let's put that in its own bucket and just listen to what he says because it's not as if, I mean, sex traffickers and human traffickers unfortunately kind of don't really get much scrutiny in the media.
So why are we supposed to hate him?
And none of those things are why he's infamous nationwide, worldwide.
We have plenty of human traffickers and smugglers.
We had Epstein gallivanting around America for 30 years.
And many of them we actually treat as heroes.
So that's not the issue.
And I'm not defending it.
Let's just be honest.
Andrew Tate is hated because he's an incredibly articulate, forceful defender of traditional masculinity.
So Andrew Tate talks about things you're not supposed to talk about, which is improving your life, becoming a strong man, learning how to say no to temptations and pleasures and impulses.
Andrew Tate, in his own words, I listened to the whole thing and I didn't quite understand the Andrew Tate phenomenon beforehand.
And then I was like, oh, now I get it.
Now I see why you hate him.
Play cut 57.
When you want to conquer a society, you kill the military-age males.
That's what you do.
That's the first thing they've ever done.
They walk in and all the men have to have their throats cut.
They can't perhaps do that, but they can certainly cut your balls off.
And then you can't resist.
And I think there's certainly a movement to ensure that there's very little resistance left inside of the number one demographic which is required to resist oppression, which are military-age males.
And they don't want those kind of people waking up with any kind of self-respect or standards or to say, no, I don't accept this.
I do not need a ninth injection.
They don't want that.
They want you to sit and say, hmm, I don't need it, but the news said so.
This is profound what Andrew Tate is saying.
What Andrew Tate is saying is that we are currently being colonized.
It's 100% correct, that we are being taken over.
And the group that is most disagreeable are testosterone-filled young men of military age.
Isn't it interesting that those are the people that they had to kick out of the military?
The people that said, I do not want to take the mRNA gene altering vaccine, kick them out.
Alpha men are a threat to the regime, and Andrew Tate is pinpointing it.
Andrew Tate received multi-institutional social media blacklisting and targeting overnight.
Every institution came together and gave him like the Donald Trump Alex Jones treatment.
We have obese trans drag queen jobs coming into the military.
We are funding transgender surgeries in the military.
And the person we're supposed to get really angry about is Andrew Tate.
I'm not an apologist for Andrew Tate.
I don't know everything he's ever said.
He has some views on depression that I certainly don't agree with.
I think he actually makes a really good point here, which is this, Play Cut 60, which is it's fashionable to be depressed.
I'm not saying that people become depressed because it's fashionable.
I actually don't believe that.
But it is acceptable to say you're depressed.
What's unacceptable is say I'm joyful, excited, I say no to pleasure, and I have purpose in my life.
Which one of those actually comes under criticism in the media?
Being happy or being depressed?
It's almost what they want you to be.
Play cut 60.
And the reason they don't like me attacking that is because depression is a fantastic way to subdue a population.
Right?
If everybody's depressed, it's hard to have a revolution.
You're depressed.
Depression's a fantastic tool of population control.
They have no problem with you being depressed.
They have a problem with you being the opposite, principled and energetic.
No, you don't want principled, energetic people.
That's a problem.
A bunch of depressed people?
Easy.
If you had to invade a country, would you rather the opposing army be principled and energetic or depressed?
I'll tell you, I would not want to be invaded by a cheerful army.
They hate Andrew Tate because he was reaching hundreds of millions, billions of people on a message of self-sovereignty, masculinity, and victor, not victimhood culture.
And that's why they had to de-platform him and take him out and accuse him of a sex crime, whether or not he committed or not.
Doesn't matter.
They had to smear him.
He was far too effective.
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