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July 14, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Affirmative Truths About Affirmative Action
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Viral Snow White Hope 00:02:44
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We defend it because we did nothing wrong.
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So apparently I'm trending.
I don't have Twitter on my phone, so I walk into our show prep.
And by the way, my day today, I had a great day so far.
I love the East Coast because our show starts at noon instead of nine.
And you know, there's not positive and negatives.
The negative is you end at three.
So your day is basically all done.
But I spent an hour and a half meeting with our Turning Point USA chapter leaders.
And if you want hope, you have got to come to a turning point event and just meet these chapter leaders.
These are 15, 16, and 17, and 18-year-old kids.
I say kids, I'm 29.
I mean, we're almost in the same cohort.
And they are courageous.
They're convicted.
They're passionate.
They're energetic.
We had 600 of our top chapter leaders right now are receiving world-class training in the room next to me.
I've spoken to them twice, once with James Lindsay.
I addressed them for an hour yesterday.
We had a crazy day yesterday.
I did seven hours of speaking yesterday, including our program together.
Met with them for a while, and it just gives me so much hope to see that there is this remnant that want to stop the cultural revolution that is swallowing America.
These students, I think, are the most important thing happening in the country right now, truly.
And so I spent some time with them, spoke to a group there, did some things with Steve Bannon.
So I come in for a show prep today, and we have 6,000 people coming tomorrow.
I'm figuring out Tucker's logistics and Megan Kelly's logistics.
And Donald Trump is coming in.
We have 155 members of the press.
We have 500 donors.
We have, I mean, it's the biggest event of the summer, right?
And I'm coming in, and Andrew says, oh, you're trending.
I said, really?
What am I trending for?
Race-Based Society Debate 00:07:28
Apparently something with Snow White that we talked about, right?
Snow White and the DEI dwarves, right?
And so it's woke white is what it is now.
It's got a tweet.
But what I'm really trending for is a comment I made yesterday.
Now, mind you, Joe Biden yesterday activated 3,000 troops to go to Europe, which could only be interpreted as getting ready to send American troops into the Ukrainian-American proxy war.
There's some really big news happening.
Tucker Carlson is talking to candidates in Iowa right now.
But apparently my tweet about Snow White is going viral.
The first images of Disney's live action remake of Snow White and her DEI dwarves.
Snow White is played by a Hispanic actress, and there's only one dwarf and six full-grown adults.
Disney says it's taking time, taking the casting of the film in a new direction to avoid reinforcing stereotypes.
Disney has lost $900 million at the box office on recent films, and something tells me that figure is only going to get worse.
Snow White is set to release in March of 2024.
So what do people find offensive about that tweet?
I don't know.
But what they really found offensive, what they have really fired up, despite the fact that they are, what do they call it, race switching?
Is that the official?
There's a race swapping, right?
Because snow white must now be snow Latina.
It must now be snow Hispanic.
Really strange.
And the dwarves are no longer dwarves.
What are the stereotypes around dwarves?
Dwarves, by definition, are small, aren't they?
I don't quite understand it.
By the way, there's nothing wrong with being a dwarf.
In Lord of the Rings, the dwarves are kind of like the coolest characters in the whole thing.
Anyway, so I guess that's offensive.
And it has millions of people talking about it on Twitter.com.
So now I'm also, but what really gets people fired up is the monologue that I did yesterday, the rant about the self-admitted, let's just say, story that Katangi Brown Jackson and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee have mentioned about affirmative action.
And they said they are only in, they only got to college because of affirmative action.
Now, affirmative action, by definition, is the lowering of standards to prioritize skin color and melanin content over the pursuit of excellence.
It is the decline of meritocracy, and you are de-emphasizing people of one race to promote people of other races.
So this is the clip in question.
It is going totally viral, and I have nothing to apologize before.
I stand by it 100%, but people are losing their minds.
In fact, one article, Mediaite.com, they call it unalloyed racism.
I mean, it's not even a term that people, could you imagine?
You're an unalloyed racist.
Okay.
You are strong as long as you don't care that they call you a racist.
They are weak if you do not care what names they call you.
Here's the clip in question, play cut 112.
In fact, you know, if we would have said three weeks ago, Blake, if we would have said that Joy Reed and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Katanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called the racist.
But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us.
They're coming out and they're saying, I'm only here because of affirmative action.
Yeah, we know you do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.
You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.
Now you might say people are calling that racist, but hold on a second.
Katanji Brown Jackson's a moron.
She's not a smart person.
She shouldn't be taken seriously.
Evidence?
Play cut 114.
Can you provide a definition for the word woman?
Can I provide a definition?
No.
Yeah.
I can't.
You can't?
Not in this context.
I'm not a biologist.
That's a Supreme Court justice who's there because of affirmative action, proving to the world she's a moron.
Can't tell you what a woman is in a sentent hearing.
So logically, this means more qualified students academically gave up their spot.
And by the way, in full transparency, I don't know if I had the brain processing power to go take a physics course at Harvard.
I think Blake did.
He went to Dartmouth.
Other people do.
Great.
But you have to be honest about the pursuit of excellence.
I have certain talents.
One of the talents is not being able to get into an Ivy League school.
Okay.
Now they get really offended by it, even though they have admitted the following.
Joy Reed, I got into Harvard only because of affirmative action.
Sheila Jackson Lee, I rise today as a clear recipient of affirmative action.
Michelle Obama.
I wasn't supposed to go to Princeton because my high school counselor said my test scores were too low.
Michelle Obama told you she was not smart enough to be able to get into Princeton.
That was a direct quote from Michelle Obama.
Additionally, you read Michelle Obama's thesis.
It's full of typos.
It's not exactly the sumo-theological, it's not exactly a brilliant piece of philosophical accomplishment.
Okay, they might be sweet people.
They might be nice people.
They're acknowledging that affirmative action elevated them when they did not have the objective standards without their race to be prioritized.
You're not allowed to say that.
Now, as we've said before, we're living through a cultural revolution.
There's only been one cultural revolution before.
What's happening, America is less Stalinist, it's less Nazi, and it's more Maoist than anything else.
A little bit of French Revolution, but very, very Maoist.
And one of the ways they take over the country is they try to shut you up.
And that's what they're trying to do to me on social media today.
It's all going viral, racist, all this.
I don't care.
It's 100% true.
You have a Supreme Court justice that can't tell you what a woman is.
Michelle Obama openly admits that she did not have grades good enough to get in.
I will never back down from the pursuit of excellence and from meritocracy.
Meritocracy keeps this country great.
It's also condescending, by the way, to blacks who worked their butts off to get into Harvard without affirmative action.
They want a race-based society.
We want a character-based society.
That's the divide.
Character-based society or race-based society.
Christopher Hitchens, by the way, very well-known atheist.
I direct your attention to Obama's 1985 thesis at Princeton University.
Its title, rather limited in scope, given the author and the campus, is Princeton Educated Blacks in the Black Community.
To describe it as hard to read would be a mistake.
The thesis cannot be read at all in the strict sense of the verb.
This is because it wasn't written in any known language.
That's Christopher Hitchens, well-known, well-respected liberal, saying Michelle Obama's senior thesis is incoherent, Ivy League, race-based, psychobabble.
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And I want to reiterate one thing I said on the show yesterday about Governor DeSantis not attending our event.
And there's a big ABC News article out today.
Trump DeSantis jab each other over attendance at competing GOP events.
I want to just say how thankful I am that Turning Point has now really kind of become the player.
Turning point action is now the place, the convocation of grassroots activity in the conservative movement.
There really is not a place even close to have the numbers, the enthusiasm, the attention, the eyeballs.
So ABC News, they were really fair.
Would you agree, Andrew?
It was a great piece.
And I think they're coming by Isabel Murray and Lali Ibissa.
They're sending a big crew?
Great.
So I said this on Patrick Bett David's program yesterday, and he's been really generous to me.
So I just want to make you all aware of his show.
If you're not a follower of Patrick Bette David, I encourage you to become one.
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Play cut 111.
There's another event going on in Iowa, but they have Ron DeSantis going to his event.
But why didn't you invite the governor to your event in Florida?
No, we invited everyone.
Okay.
Yeah, just for the record.
And every single candidate got an invite.
In fact, we actively were trying to get the governor to come.
What was the reason for him?
Because it's.
He declined.
Why would he decline to a Florida event?
No, it's perplexing, Patrick.
And so it's confusing why Governor DeSantis in his home state would not attend.
He's going to be in the state, according to his public schedule in Tallahassee.
He could easily come down on Sunday, a day that Trump is not speaking.
I think it's a huge missed opportunity.
Hopefully, he fixes his error.
I don't think he's going to fix his error, unfortunately.
And so really thrilled what we've been able to create here at Turning Point Action.
And we're hearing from our leaders and people on the front lines that they wish Governor DeSantis would come.
I've said this before on the show, but I just want you to imagine: how do you beat an alpha beast like Trump?
This is what DeSantis should have done.
All the technical stuff.
Ron DeSantis should have showed up to our event and said, you know what, I'm not going to give a speech.
I'm going to take questions.
And those of you who disagree, go to the front of the line.
If you disagree, come ask me anything.
You might say, wow, Charlie, that's something.
Well, we do that every day on a college campus.
I've been doing it for six years.
You only win by fighting.
Governor DeSantis should have gone right into the MAGA base.
And you know what?
I talked to hundreds and hundreds of students.
I said, would that make you increase your support or decrease your support?
Oh, that would make me love DeSantis.
It would show that he has testosterone, a spine, other anatomy that is necessary.
And we love Governor DeSantis, what he's done in Florida.
But he is honestly running one of the worst presidential campaigns we've seen in recent history.
Look how much money he's raising.
That's great.
Money's not votes.
It's too bad.
And it's hard to change narratives and reputations once they start.
And the reputation is not good for Governor DeSantis.
Not only does he have to turn around the current narrative, but then he has to win back more votes beyond that.
Reports are now that Rupert Murdoch and Fox Empire are souring on him and trying to draft Glenn Young to go up against President Donald Trump.
Reports are that because he's not really resonating in the polls and not really drawing big crowds and all those things, top donors souring on DeSantis, start looking at Tim Scott.
I think we predicted that, didn't we, Andrew?
Almost to a T. What show was I on?
We were on some program where I said, was it Patrick Bett David?
It was some other program recently where I said they're going to start to, was it Megan Kelly?
It was something that I said it very clearly that Tim Scott is almost next man up.
Politico.com, Tim Scott is the next person.
Billionaire Ronald Lauder met with the South Carolina senator and others in the checkwriting class are showing interest.
What is Cut 108?
Oh, this is Tucker Carlson grilling Senator Tim Scott on Ukraine.
Play Cut 108.
Why not force a peace?
How would you?
Well, you could tell Ukraine, and they are a client state of the United States.
Without American backing, there's kind of no Ukraine.
We're literally paying the salaries of their bureaucrats.
We want you to sit down, as they tried to do, but were stopped by our government, and stop this war and reach a peace as one does, where both sides, you know, concede some of their interests.
Like, why wouldn't that be in our interest to do that?
I think the faster we get to peace, the better off we are.
What we don't want to do from my perspective is allow ourselves to ask for a premature peace that cannot be achieved as the alliances continue to come together.
That's neocon happy talk.
That's coded language for war forever.
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Okay, I want to, there's so many stories to go here.
So, yesterday, Joe Biden, this should be the number one news story in the country.
Not the fact that I mentioned that it's Snow White and the DEI dwarves.
It's Joe Biden orders 3,000 reservists to be ready for Europe deployments.
Biden approves mobilization of reserves to support UCOM.
Reservists set to deploy for Europe-NATO mission following new Biden order.
Do you support in the audience right now sending 3,000 troops to Europe, which, of course, is obviously to be used potentially to fight Russia?
I said this yesterday.
I tweeted it.
How'd that tweet to you?
Not too well, Andrew?
Not that well?
Well, I refuse to support a war against Russia.
I refuse.
I refuse to support.
First, I don't support the proxy war against Russia.
We have more in common with Russia than we would dare ever admit.
They're not a free society.
They're authoritarian.
We're increasingly not a free society, but they do have some Christian undercurrents to them.
Why do we hate them?
Do you have to go to war against every country that you hate?
Or you have to go to war against every country you don't share values with?
By what standard is that happening?
The Republican Party is largely purchased by the war machine.
The Republican Party does the bidding of Raytheon Northrop Grumman, Boeing, and Lockheed Martin.
The military has alienated the people who have long volunteered for it.
The people that largely would serve in the military, they don't like DEI.
You don't like this woke pride stuff.
They don't like the clear decay of the military standards.
And they don't like that their government seems to be waging a cultural war on its own people.
Our military doesn't inspire young people, so they sign on for benefits at most.
And there are some amazing people that still serve in our military, and they're under attack by this woke python that is squeezing them.
You know how pythons work.
It wraps all the way around and it suffocates its victim.
That is what's happening.
So the Ukraine news is incredibly disturbing, and the lack of moral clarity from any people in the leadership of the Republican Party is disappointing.
Tucker Carlson asked Senator Tim Scott, and by the way, we are live clipping Tucker Carlson's visit at Bob Vanderplatt's event in Iowa.
Bob Vanderplatz is a great American.
People are trying to say, oh, Charlie, is there competition?
No, I like Bob Vanderplant.
He's a great guy.
He said really nice stuff about us in the media, and I will too.
He's a terrific guy.
We've had him on the show.
We'll have him on again.
It just was a scheduling thing, honestly.
You know, we had our event.
He had an event, so be it.
Let's play Cut 109.
So, what's the point at which we'll know that we've achieved our goal?
I would say that the objective should be for Zelensky and Ukraine to be able to achieve victory by maintaining as much of their territory as they possibly can, and then seeing the resources that we've deployed, along with our Western alliances, achieving the peace that I believe comes when you get these two folks to sit down and have a conversation that allows them to determine where those lines will be drawn for the next hundred years.
Now, Senator Tim Scott's a really smart person.
He is.
He's earned where he's been.
That's actually a really smart, disappointing answer.
You might say, well, what do you mean?
It doesn't make any sense.
That answer didn't make sense.
It's smart because he knows what lines not to cross.
If I had a transcript of that, achieve victory by the resources of having him have as much land as possible to get them to talk to peace.
Bro, that doesn't make any sense.
But it's smart in the sense that Senator Tim Scott knows that he can't offend the permanent war machine in D.C.
So he kind of has to say things without saying it.
What does victory look like?
And honestly, to be perfectly blunt with you, Senator Tim Scott is answering the question with the question and the term.
It's called circular reasoning.
It's like when I go to a college campus and I ask an activist, what is a woman?
And they say, well, someone who identifies as a woman, no, you can't answer the question with the definition of the question.
You have to tell me what the thing is.
And so Senator Tim Scott answered, what is victory?
Well, victory is when Zelensky has victory.
Okay, what is that?
What is the latitude and longitude of a comfort where you're saying, okay, we're done?
Is it eastern Ukraine?
Is it Crimea?
Read between the lines here.
The Ukraine war is not going great.
And they're worried about things suddenly going into collapse the other way.
There's been a lot of narrative about how Russia is losing the war and it's not going their way.
There is a lot of truth to that.
Not that Russia's losing the war, not going their way.
But if you know anything about Russian military history, which our agencies will never tell you on television, if you know anything about how Russians fight wars, they proudly win wars of attrition.
They'll just throw more bodies.
They'll outlast you.
An inch a day will eventually reclaim Ukraine.
Russia has won a lot of wars by just suffering more than the enemy.
If you know anything about Russian culture, they kind of embrace suffering as the normative state.
They just are kind of really good at grinning and bearing it.
Russian culture is kind of like, life is terrible.
Onward.
Life sucks.
Onward.
Life really sucks onward.
And I'm not even saying that negatively.
That's just kind of Eastern European worldview stuff.
And so they're just going to keep on trying to push the line, and they're not going to give up.
In fact, Putin has a core remnant of resolve that he'll just keep on drafting young men from the Russian countryside.
Russia lost 24 million people in World War II.
Our tax dollars are propping up and funding the Ukrainian bureaucracy.
I could just see soon.
Senator Chris Koons gives a speech from the Senate floor.
What we need is for the Kiev government to have a diversity, equity, inclusion office.
We're going to be funding pride marches in Kiev.
And you laugh, but that is the project of American leftism, American Maoism.
Why do you think that the left is so obsessed with calling everything colonialist?
They've been studying colonization for 70 years so that they can then colonize their desired lands.
They're colonizing our own country, and they're going to try to colonize Ukraine.
Americans lost 450,000 people in World War II.
That's a big number.
Russia, 24 million people.
And that doesn't count Stalin just killing his own citizens or intentional starvation in the years prior or after.
You're dealing with a country that is pretty inoculated to widespread suffering and death.
I do not want to go to war against the country.
By the way, think about how stupid it would be for us to send troops within miles of a home country's border.
If you want Russian domestic support to go up for a war, get America more involved.
Russia suffered 10,000 people killed to win the Chechen War.
But that's more than we lost in Afghanistan.
So what does success look like?
And you know who you should feel sorry for?
You should feel sorry for all the civilians.
It's totally, the refugees, it's legit, it's terrible, it's awful.
War is the worst thing human beings do.
But you know who else I feel sorry for?
I feel sorry for the young men that are being drafted in the Ukrainian military.
We're making into a human shield for the failed project of American neoconservatism.
That's really perverse and sick.
The teenagers right now that are dying on the front lines of Ukraine against a better equipped, better trained, psychologically tougher Russian military so that Western leaders can feel good about what exactly.
Ukraine is not part of NATO.
Ukraine is not a part of the United States.
And we just had to get into a huge fight with Russia.
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Why?
Because Russia has laws against gay propaganda?
Oh, maybe that's what actually is there.
Russia is too socially conservative.
Makes you think.
It can't be because Russia puts their political dissidents in jail.
We warned on this program that we are going to be sending troops to the front lines soon.
And that, I'm not, like, that's not fair to say, right?
That's not happening yet, front lines.
Okay, I want to be precise.
But he is sending them into the theater to support the effort, right?
This is exactly how we got into Vietnam.
Started with Intel, started with, we slowly escalate.
We get closer and closer.
More equipment, more bombs, more trainers, more intelligence, more people.
I do not want to, I do not want to wager the odds.
But I do want to tell you this.
There is a good chance.
There is a chance that your teenage son, if they decide to go in the military, or maybe even draft it at some point, are going to have to go try to be drafted to go kill Russians.
I won't participate in that war.
I hope you won't either.
End this conflict.
The Republican Party remains to be permanent cheerleaders for the war machine.
It's making you poorer.
It's making us lazier.
It's making us weaker.
While our own country collapses, we're worried about the front lines of eastern Ukraine.
It's disgusting.
Brainiac, Kamala Harris.
Now, she's not in her position because of affirmative action.
She's in her position because some people would say she engaged in the world's oldest profession.
Not stonemasonry.
Something else.
Play cut 80.
And I think the first part of this issue that should be articulated is AI is kind of a fancy thing.
First of all, it's two letters.
It means artificial intelligence.
But ultimately, what it is, is it's about machine learning.
And so the machine is taught.
And part of the issue here is what information is going into the machine that will then determine, and we can predict then, if we think about what information is going in, what then will be produced in terms of decisions and opinions that may be made through that process.
Money!
Money!
I actually don't know who wrote the money song.
I just know the song.
Who did write that song?
Cardi B.
It's not Cardi B.
She wasn't even alive yet.
There's a Pink Floyd song called Money.
Is it Pink Floyd?
I mean, there's probably more than one song called Money.
I think it might be.
I don't know.
Money for nothing.
Kamala Harris is talking a lot lately.
It's probably a bad PR communication strategy.
You know, people say, Charlie, what happens if Joe Biden doesn't run and Camela does?
I'll be thrilled.
She's infinitely easier to beat Joe Biden.
Gavin Newsom is not easier to beat.
So Kamala Harris defines what is transportation.
This is how you know you have a rather unstable government when very basic terms cannot be defined.
Play Cut 120.
And I again want to thank the Secretary for your work.
This issue of transportation is fundamentally about just making sure that people have the ability to get where they need to go.
It's that basic.
It's that basic.
She was going to cackle.
She also said that one of the big issues with commercial airliners is they don't have accessible bathrooms.
Equity.
Bathroom equity on an airliner.
Okay.
Well, the obvious take is: why are you worrying about that?
Don't you have other things to worry about?
That's kind of the normie take.
It's true, but it's just normie.
The second one is: what do you mean they're not equitable?
Like, yeah, maybe Chris Christie has issues getting into airplane bathrooms, but, or Lizzo.
But is there something else that I'm missing about airplane accessibility?
Email us recently, freedom at charliekirk.com, if you've been on a flight recently without a bathroom.
I don't think that's even legal.
I think you have to have a lavatory, right?
They what?
No, it's about the Chris Christie, J.B. Pritzker types.
Got it.
Play cut 121.
Well, I think culture is a reflection of our moment and our time, right?
And present culture is the way we express how we're feeling about the moment.
And we should always find times to express how we feel about the moment that is a reflection of joy because it comes in the morning.
You're vice president, everybody.
If we lived in a normal country, SNL would have 30 million people watching every Saturday night.
I mean, the material writes itself.
You got Alfred E. Newman, who's like bragging about chest feeding, running your transportation department.
You have men who think they're women that are in charge of medicine.
You got a president who like collapses.
You got the monkeypox guy who's the highest paid employee.
You're not allowed to make fun of any of it, though.
You must be serious all the time.
The revolution must continue.
Do we have the bathroom clip?
Yeah, they say that serious people are in charge.
Now, Camilla Harris is Caribbean, right?
Is that the technically, politically correct term?
No, she's Indian and Jamaican.
Is that right?
So does then the regime consider her to be black?
I'm just understanding what they say.
Is that right?
Black, but not like not a descendant of slaves.
Ah.
You see, it's very hard to understand all the rules because they're secretly written.
Only the secret society is allowed to know the rules.
But when you break them, they cut your head off.
We're the only ones with the rules, but we maintain the right to bring you to the guillotine if you violate them.
So you kind of have to infer what the rules are.
Like, can we have the rules publicly listed anywhere?
No.
And then Joe Biden is just going and sniffing on young girls at the NATO summit.
Perfectly normal, stable behavior.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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