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May 17, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Elon Musk vs. George Soros
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We are watching the Kerry Lake trial.
Hopefully we're going to, Carrie Lake has now been granted an opportunity to prove her case in court.
We're going to keep our eyes on that.
And so as we get information, we are going to talk about what is happening in the Kerry Lake trial.
But, you know, for years, if you would go back on the Charlie Kirk Show archives, I have been lamenting about how we do not have better elites.
I think one of the most frustrating things happening in America is people that have benefited financially, that have made so much money, that have lived a very comfortable and really successful life, then use their resources, their time, their treasure, their energy to then crush the very country that made them successful or was able to make them successful.
It's one of the most frustrating developments.
I hear it all the time.
Crushing The American Dream 00:10:34
Charlie, why does Bezos, Charlie, why do the people at Apple, why is it that the people that are from Goldman Sachs or from Facebook or from Google, why is it they then want to destroy the free market that made them money?
Why is it they want to keep the borders open?
Why is they want to destroy the country?
And there's really not a good answer to that.
You see, we teach our children in our government schools about Andrew Carnegie or Rockefeller or J.P. Morgan.
We say that was the Gilded Age.
These were the robber barons.
Now, there's always something you could criticize about them, but I never doubt for a second.
You can go back to their philanthropy, to their charitable work.
I never doubt that Carnegie Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, and the Robber Barons, I never doubt that they loved the country.
You could criticize the economic inequality or the poor working conditions, but they were patriots.
They donated to libraries, to hospitals.
They built beautiful institutions, many of which still exist today.
You see, we have a different problem in America where the Carnegies, the Mellons, the Morgans, the Rockefellers of today, the Bezos, The Google people, Sergey Brin and Larry Page, the Reid Hoffmans, the Mackenzie Bezos, the Lorene Powell Jobs, they have the tens of billions and sometimes hundreds of billions of dollars, and they hate the country.
And they use their money politically.
They use their money charitably to crush you, to try to fund open border groups.
And the person who is made a career out of this, the person who has done more damage through his own political contributions, through his nonprofit work, than any other elite is George Soros.
George Soros is an evil man.
We're not going to mince words.
George Soros wants the destruction of Western civilization.
Just read his articles dating back a couple decades.
He runs the Open Society Foundation.
George Soros has donated 95% of his net worth to the Open Society Foundation, nearly $18 to $22 billion of an asset transfer to keep American sovereignty under attack, to defund our police.
He was the number one donor in the 2022 midterms of $128 million that we know of funding people like Kim Fox or Chesa Boudin, Alvin Bragg.
He wants to try to defund the police.
He wants to change the fabric, the fiber of the country.
George Soros does not believe the Constitution is a beautiful document.
George Soros does not believe in American exceptionalism.
No, George Soros has for decades, and he thinks he's close, tried to destabilize the American Republic.
Now, as we lament about how bad our elites are, we should also be honest when somebody in the elite community says good things and starts to do good things.
It is impossible for us to win the culture war.
It's impossible for us to revitalize the country.
It's impossible for us to defeat the Marxist left without a few very wealthy elites that come and partner with our grassroots movement.
We need it.
We need them either ideologically, economically.
We need them to come into harmony and say, it is wrong that George Soros is spending billions of dollars to destroy the country.
We used to have a word for that.
It's called treason.
We shouldn't put up with it.
You know, there's a lot of people in the audience.
A lot of you email us negative emails.
Negative, negative, negative.
I get it to a certain extent about Elon Musk.
We can understand that.
He's doing the Neuralink thing.
He does a lot of business in China.
He's the richest or second richest man in the world, depending on stock prices.
He's involved in everything.
He's not a conservative.
He's not.
I totally get it.
I am a conservative.
Many of you are conservatives.
However, he says things and does things that deserve praise.
He's willing to challenge the elite orthodoxy.
And Elon Musk has, quote unquote, got himself in some trouble.
And this is of the theme that I think is worth celebrating and worth some encouragement.
Rich people that have all the money in the world, they could spend time on islands, literally buying islands and nations and quote unquote fighting climate change.
No, Elon Musk has decided to plainly call out George Soros for being a supervillain.
Jeff Bezos would never do this.
The Google people would never do this.
The Wall Street people would never do this.
No, no, Elon Musk tweeted a joke that George Soros reminded him of Magneto, a supervillain from the X-Men comic series.
In a follow-up tweet, Musk says, this is Elon Musk, the world's richest man or second world's richest man, depending on the market.
George Soros wants to erode the very fabric of civilization.
Soros hates humanity.
Elon Musk is 100% correct.
George Soros has waged war on the West, on humanity as we know it, for decades.
It is his life's work.
George Soros equates open society with a dying society.
He wants to destroy speech and have it be suppressed.
He wants the family to be destroyed.
He's one of the big believers in the BLM destruction of the nuclear family unit.
He wants the streets to be filled with killers and addicts, laws made by unaccountable globalists.
He doesn't believe in checks and balances or separation of powers.
He doesn't believe in the promise of the Declaration of Independence.
No, no, no.
George Soros believes in deconstructionism, destabilization.
You see, George Soros is an ideological cancer on any functioning country.
This is literally why his home country of Hungary has done everything they possibly can to ban him from the country.
He's an insurgent force.
He tries to influence and fund groups to take down what already exists.
There is nothing redeemable about the actions of George Soros.
And he funds elections.
He funds these DAs and these individuals all across the board.
It takes courage to go after George Soros.
And you better believe there has been silence across the landscape the last couple of decades of people with money, prestige, let alone somebody who runs Tesla SpaceX, to say, George Soros, you're an evil man.
Elon Musk did not mince words.
And I know you guys are going to send me plenty of emails complaining about him, but hear me out here.
Allow me a chance to convince you.
He wants to erode the very fabric of civilization.
Soros hates humanity.
Elon Musk was given an opportunity to clarify this on CNBC.
CNBC came and decided to interview him and said, hey, you know, what's the story here?
You know, with you going after Elon Musk?
Well, what is the issue here?
You see, CNBC has to try to protect the regime narrative.
Let's go to Cut 54.
Elon Musk, asked by CNBC about his tweet about George Soros hating humanity.
Play Cut 54.
But how do you make a choice?
You don't see, I mean, in terms of when you're going to engage.
I mean, for example, even today, Elon, you tweeted this thing about George Soros.
You basically.
It reminds me of Maybeetos.
It's like, you know, calm down, people.
This is not like made a pedal case out of it.
He said he wants to erode the very fabric of civilization, and Soros hates humanity.
Like, when you do something like that, I think that's true.
That's my opinion.
Okay, but why share it?
Why share it when people who buy Teslas may not agree with you?
Advertisers on Twitter may not agree with you.
Why not just say, hey, I think this?
You can tell me.
We can talk about it over there.
You can tell your friends, but why share it widely?
I mean, this is freedom of speech.
I'm allowed to say what I want.
You absolutely are.
I just, I love the premise of the question.
Mr. Musk, can you tell us why you feel you have to speak the truth on Twitter?
Why don't you just be quiet about it?
Just be in your corner.
It's such a repulsive question, isn't it?
Why do you feel the need to have to air your opinions, Mr. Musk?
Why can't you just be like all the other obedient CEOs that we interview on this network that stay in line and do what they're told?
Elon said something that I tend to believe.
He says, if I lose money, I lose money.
Okay, we're going to talk more about Soros and Musk because now Musk is being attacked as an anti-Semite.
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How did George Soros make his money?
George Soros largely made his money through currency destabilization and manipulation.
I'll be honest, I largely find the way that George Soros made his money repugnant.
He made a lot of money off of manipulating markets.
I'm not saying it should be illegal.
I just don't think it's admirable.
I don't.
I think that George Soros made a lot of money off of the pain of others and the mass societal chaos and carnage.
Elon Musk, I will say, despite a lot of philosophical differences I have, he's built some very, very serious companies.
Launching rockets is no joke.
Remaking the car is certainly no joke.
Elon has created real value.
What is the company that George Soros has created?
What is the value he has brought to the world?
Rockefeller, you could say, okay, he brought the world cheap oil.
Carnegie brought the world cheap steel.
Bill Gates at least gave us Microsoft, even though he wants it to change the world.
And another bad dude.
Elon Musk, you'd say, okay, well, it's SpaceX and it's the boring company and it's Tesla and now Twitter.
It's real stuff.
PayPal.
That's a real portfolio of value.
George Soros is about destabilization and currency manipulation.
Thought-Terminating Clichés Exposed 00:03:45
And this is one of the most frustrating patterns in our media is when you criticize a powerful globalist, when you criticize a powerful member of the regime,
immediately the nonprofit groups like ADL or the activist groups of the media have to find a thought-terminating cliché to use to shut you up or shut up the person doing the criticizing.
Now, what is a thought-terminating cliché?
A thought-terminating cliché is a thought stopper.
It's a form of loaded language that is used to end an argument.
For example, you're a racist.
That's bigoted.
It's supposed to intimidate you.
It's supposed to paralyze your inquiry.
It's supposed to end all discussion.
That is a thought-terminating cliché.
Now, a thought-terminating cliché is usually used with racial stuff.
But George, this is the one that just infuriates me.
Anytime George Soros gets criticized in the public eye, all of a sudden they say it is anti-Semitic.
George Soros, first of all, is not a religious Jew.
He has said time and time again, he is not a religious person.
Nobody is criticizing George Soros because of his Jewish ancestry.
Nobody.
But immediately the Anti-Defamation League says, Elon Musk is parroting anti-Semitic tropes time and time and time again.
This is nonsense.
It is not anti-Semitism to criticize George Soros.
In fact, it's the opposite.
It is necessary.
In fact, I will publicly question if George Soros actually believes in Judaism.
Does George Soros believe in the values of the Torah?
That's not for me to judge.
I mean, that's something that Dennis Prager can probably talk openly about a lot better than I can.
But I don't glean from George Soros' commentary that he believes in the values of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.
Play Cut 68.
Are you religious?
No.
Do you believe in God?
No.
Soros told us he believes God was created by man, not the other way around, which may be why he thinks he can smooth out the world's imperfections.
Okay, so he believes that God was created by men.
Are you religious?
No.
He says it very plainly.
So, why is it all of a sudden that he gets to then quote unquote hide behind the veil of, oh, you can't criticize me because I'm Jewish?
According to your own admission, you don't believe in the core tenets of Judaism.
You might be Jewish by blood, but wait a second.
Are you trying to say that we can't criticize powerful people because they might be related?
What exactly is going on here?
The answer is the Anti-Defamation League, which is doing the bidding of Soros and his allies, are trying to stop any sort of proper cross-examination, any sort of exposure of their deeds of darkness.
And Elon Musk is correct by framing him as a supervillain.
George Soros is a supervillain against Western civilization, and it has nothing to do with the Judaism he does not believe in.
I mean, just does George Soros honor the Shabbat?
I don't know.
That's not for me.
I'm not Jewish, but a lot of respect for the Jewish people, a lot of respect for the Torah.
But it doesn't seem as if, by his own admission, he even believes in that stuff.
But when he gets criticized, immediately it's like, oh, can't talk about it because he's Jewish.
Is he?
Does he believe in that?
Soros Destabilization Conspiracy 00:14:03
Is it even relevant?
No, it's not.
Even if he was a practicing religious Jew, it is completely and totally irrelevant.
What is relevant is he hates the country.
And they're using a thought-terminating cliche because they know that George Soros is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors against Western society.
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Steve Weinberg says, Charlie, I'm a Jewish man and a big fan of your positions and ideology.
I listen to you religiously every day.
I could not agree with you more on your comments regarding George Soros.
He's an absolute evil monster to our country and a disgusting piece of garbage as a person.
Great job as usual, Charlie.
Steve, you are absolutely spot on.
Thank you.
God bless you.
Yeah, look, I'm going to get criticized by saying, Charlie Kirk is anti-Semitic.
That's just nonsense.
I mean, it's damaging to discourse.
It is.
I don't criticize, no person criticizes George Soros because they say, oh, well, you know, I'm criticizing because of his Judaism.
That's not even in the calculus.
It's not even in the equation.
We're criticizing George Soros because of his evil deeds.
If that was indeed the case for any of us, why is it that we are such good friends and partners with Ben Shapiro or Dennis Prager?
This is so damaging because what it does is it makes people skittish.
It makes people afraid.
to call out evil because for whatever reason the media tells you you can't do.
Okay.
Okay, so let's look at Chris Hayes, MSNBC, because they have a whole field day with this, right?
Because as soon as you criticize George Soros, instead of actually defending what Soros has done, you notice that they don't defend Soros' work.
They don't defend like, oh, actually, George Soros has done this, this, this, this, and this, because he's arsenic.
George Soros is a poison.
His actions are a poison to the Republic, to rule of law.
And this is not, I'm not being hyperbolic.
I'm not exaggerating.
There is no defense at all of his political contributions in support of his prosecutors.
And it's not like some one-off thing.
It is a pattern.
And so MSNBC and Chris Hayes, they know this.
They know it's indefensible.
So instead, they say, oh, well, you know, it is turning into authoritarianism on Twitter and anti-Semitism.
So let's go to Cut 63.
Just listen to Chris Hayes saying, oh, Elon Musk is trying to make him into some sort of, and again, this is, I'm just using their words, Jew supervillain.
That's Chris Hayes' words.
Okay, again, George Soros is not off limits because of a Judaism he probably does not even believe in.
Everybody should be able to be criticized if they're doing evil.
There's no people that are quote unquote off limits.
Okay, let's play Cut 63, please.
We are an advertising company.
They have been to the extent they were ever profitable.
It just seems like you're not like, what are you going to do?
Put your tweets next to him saying George Soros is a big comic book Jew villain?
That's basically what he's saying.
And look, Chris, over the last few years, I've had to go to the worst websites in the world every day.
I had an HAM when that was in its bang 4chan.
I don't think I dread going to a site more than I dread going to Twitter every day because you see that the dumbest stuff is underneath smart people.
So MSNBC does the bidding of the Anti-Defamation League.
And now, why is this important?
And again, I just want to re-emphasize this: is that the most powerful people that are destroying your country think they are immune to criticism because they can hide behind thought-terminating clichés.
And Elon doesn't care.
So let's kind of bring this all together.
Elon is willing to call them out.
We need more elites like Elon Musk that are willing to spend the money, challenge the orthodoxy.
And look at this.
He's sitting down with the CNBC and CNBC says, oh, really, this guy's, who's this CNBC reporter?
He might be a nice person.
He might be a great father.
He might be a lovely husband.
The guy's a moron.
He is a very stupid person.
I don't say that lightly because listen to this.
Elon Musk sitting down with the CNBC guy and Elon's saying, hey, just so you know, there's no proof that the Allen Texas shooter was a white supremacist, David Faber.
And then this reporter says, well, there's no evidence to support that he wasn't.
What galaxy are you living in?
There's no evidence to support David Faber that you're not a pedophile.
I mean, is that really what we're going to go at?
It's like, okay, but then Elon responds.
He says, okay, but there's no evidence to support that there is.
That's how things work in the West.
The presumption of innocence.
We don't go around and say, you got to prove your innocence that you're not an arsonist, that you're not a bank robber.
These people have not really thought through their positions because at CNBC, they're so used to CEO interviews where they say, Oh, tell us how much money you're donating to BLM.
Tell us about your diversity, equity, and inclusion department.
Okay, play cut 69, please.
This is Elon at his best.
He deserves praise here.
If you're honest in the audience, you might hate Elon.
You should say, This is a powerful 45 seconds.
Play Cut 69.
Obviously, people were killed, but it was, I think, incorrectly ascribed to be a white supremacist action.
I couldn't really even follow exactly what it was you were trying to express there.
So that's part why I was curious.
But I'm saying that I thought ascribing it to white supremacy was bullshit.
Okay.
And that the information for that came from an obscure Russian website and was somehow magically found by Bellingcat, which is a company that does psyops.
And there's no proof, by the way, that he was not.
There's no, I would say that there's no proof that he is.
And that's a debate you want to get into on Twitter.
Yes.
Because we should not be ascribing things to white supremacy if it's false.
No proof that he's not.
These people in the media.
It's a presumption of innocence.
Do you have any evidence at all?
Then don't postulate it.
And so as we look at how do we save the country, we need more defections from the elite class.
And yeah, they're going to try to take Elon out.
But they got a problem with Elon because they need Elon.
They need Elon for the electric vehicle nonsense that they want to try to mandate.
They need Elon for some of the, of course, communications via satellites and what's the name of the company?
Starlink.
Cut 64.
The New York Times is really fired up.
Elon has turned Twitter into a vehicle for authoritarianism.
PlayCut 64.
He is basically, he is the, you know, kind of, he turned Twitter into, on many different fronts, a vehicle for authoritarianism, both, you know, kind of spouting authoritarian content and tamping down on content that would challenge authoritarianism.
Content that would challenge authoritarianism, he's destroyed.
I just, these are people that are defending the targeting of moms and dads at school board meetings.
These are people that are perfectly fine with political dissidents, like Steve Bannon being indicted, James O'Keefe being raided, the constant nonstop persecution of January 6th defendants, and they're lecturing us about authoritarianism.
The people that wanted to contact Trace you because you went to a church, and they're saying that we're the authoritarian people.
Probably the most powerful clip is David Faber talking about conspiracy theories.
I think you're seeing Elon Musk become red-pilled.
I really do.
I think you are seeing the red pilling of the world's richest man.
Why?
Because he's intellectually curious.
I really believe this.
I believe that any American who is intellectually curious and honest will move further to the center right during this time in American American drama that's playing out.
It is impossible to go to the center left or to the left if you are intellectually curious and honest.
The more you ask, the more you inquire, the more you research, you are going to go further to at least the center to the center right.
The American right is the only place we are allowed to think for yourself and say, well, that's wrong.
And that's interesting.
Maybe that goes too far.
And again, we do not require, we should not require, let me put it this way.
We should not require that every person who decides to quote unquote enter the center right agrees with us on everything.
I'm 100% conservative across the board.
You guys are too.
At the same time, I think it's really powerful that Elon Musk is challenging this guy on CNBC about conspiracy theories.
Now, instead of running to the hills and taking the bank, Elon says, wait a second.
A lot of these conspiracy theories are coming true.
Epstein Island?
Hunter Biden laptop?
Where did the virus come from?
Play Cut 53.
Some tweets that seem to be, or at least give support to some who would call others conspiracy theories.
Well, yes, but I mean, honestly, you know, some of these conspiracy theories have turned out to be true.
Which ones?
Well, like the Hunter Biden laptop.
That's true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, that was a pretty big deal.
There was Twitter and others engaged in active suppression of information that was relevant to the public.
That's a terrible thing that happened.
That's electronic interference.
The Russia collusion hoax itself was a conspiracy against the country.
It was seditious conspiracy.
And we now, I mean, Durham, for all the bitterness I have towards, at least we have now in a 300-page report that it was seditious conspiracy against the United States.
And we need more of this.
We need more people with power that are running big companies that have lots of money to just start to say this is wrong.
But the kicker, Elon acknowledges he might lose money and he's willing to still fight for this.
I think that's admirable.
And I'll be very honest.
Most of your Republican senators that might say a good game, you know, play a good game and say a good thing to you, they don't nearly have as much courage as this.
They don't.
If we want to save the country, we got to be real.
No more happy talk or no more utopian kind of one-liners.
If we're serious about saving the country, you must build coalitions.
Coalitions require you to sometimes partner with people where you don't see everything 100% the same way.
We should never waver on our beliefs.
But I think it's exciting that the world's richest man is willing to go on CNBC and call out the idea that conspiracy theories are proven right, that he's willing to call out that there's no proof that the shooter was a white supremacist, that he's willing to call George Soros, who wants to erode the fabric of civilization and hates humanity.
We need more defections.
We need more discord amongst the elite community.
One of the biggest missing pieces the last decade and a half is we look around and we say, where have the wealthy gone?
Why are they okay with this?
You get a couple to support our grassroots energy, to support the people's movement.
We're going to have a real fighting shot.
And that's why they have to try to take Elon out.
They're going to do everything they possibly can.
But honestly, spread them thin.
They're going to try to take Trump out.
They're going to try to take Bannon out.
They're going to try to take this show out.
They're going to try to take Elon out.
The more, the better.
And for that, I think it deserves praise.
Okay, there's a clip that's making the rounds here.
It's Rana Romney, who runs the RNC on Sean Hannity's program, talking about how Republicans need more money and resources and how the Democrats are outracing us because they invest in the process.
I want you to listen to the clip, but look, I know many of you have stopped giving money to the RNC.
Invest In The Process 00:03:48
And I obviously have encouraged you to do that and start supporting groups that are really going to do the clipboard and tennis shoes type of work.
Let's play Cut 49.
Republicans wait until election year and then they invest.
And you have to invest now in the process.
You cannot wait.
Text Wind 80810.
You cannot wait.
We need to be getting people on the permanent absentee voter file in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
It takes money.
You can't wait until the candidates are picked.
You have to invest in the process.
We need to change the culture in our party.
Are you acknowledging that it's not happening now?
No, I'm not acknowledging that.
We are investing in all these states, minority outreach.
Investing should be behind the eight ball.
That's my point.
No, we are not behind the eight ball.
I'm saying we need more money.
We need resources.
Of course we do.
And I will say the Democrats are outraising us 100% because they invest in process.
And I talk to voters and donors all the time.
They say, I want to see who the candidate is.
I'm going to wait to see who the nominee is.
You have to invest in both, the process and the nominee.
Maybe they shouldn't spend $700,000 on flowers.
Maybe they shouldn't spend $17 million on donor mementos.
That money would probably be better spent in the Battleground States.
Good for Sean Hannity for pushing back, by the way.
It's necessary.
I am curious, those of you in the audience, are any of you still donating to the RNC?
I'm just curious.
You can email me freedom at charliekirk.com.
If you are convinced that they're really going to do that, she seemed very insistent, you know, text whatever to whatever to help us out.
I think, well, look, we need to win the White House in 24.
We are behind the eight ball on it.
We got to do it without the RNC.
I know many of you are refusing to give money and to get engaged and get involved.
I'm curious.
You can email me freedom at charliekirk.com.
Let's play another piece of tape here of this back and forth, which was interesting because Reince Priebus was also on.
I got to watch the whole thing.
I haven't had a chance to watch the whole clip.
We've been talking about that.
Okay, let's go to cut 50, please.
This is the point if Republicans are not matching the efforts of early voting, mail-in voting, and ballot harvesting, then they are destined to start out Election Day in a big, huge hole, and the odds of them losing are that much greater.
And so there, okay, and so there needs to be two things that happen.
Segments like tonight, where we educate our voters to end this stupid mentality that you need to wait for Election Day, which is what Rana is doing.
And the second thing that we have to do is convince our Uber donors that instead of giving $50 million to a candidate in a primary, take that $50 million, invest it in boring stuff like mechanics, like voter education, voter registration, teams on the ground that are going to collect these ballots.
Let me just read a tweet from the great Tyler Boyer.
I'll let you guys come up with your own thing.
And by the way, this is what we're doing at Turning Point Action.
Tyler Boyer has says, quote, did you know that we are in month seven of the 2024 cycle and the RNC, NRSC, and RNCC have made no reasonable investment yet into the state of Arizona.
Arizona has a Senate race, four important house districts, and obviously, most importantly, the path to the presidency.
I'm curious.
Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
Do you have faith in the Republican National Committee?
Are you going to keep donating to the RNC when they send you these emails?
I sure hope not.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us your thoughts as always.
Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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