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Nov. 16, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Trump Announces with LIVE Reaction from Jack Posobiec, Andrew Kolvet, and Tyler Bowyer
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Trump Announces Presidential Run 00:13:42
Good evening, everybody.
We are here on the very big night.
Donald Trump is probably announcing for the presidency tonight.
And if you take, you could take the wide shot, guys.
Can you take the wide shot?
As you can see, I'm all alone.
Many of you grew accustomed to having Tyler here and Austin here and Jack here and Wendy here.
And I'm all alone.
But producer Andrew is here.
Andrew, can you hear me?
I can hear you, Charlie.
I've cleaned the entire room.
I'm the last one standing.
Listen, Charlie, as they say, they say, you know, failure is an orphan.
Oh, thanks.
Look around.
Look around.
Look at the wide shot.
This was my week, as you can see.
That's all right, Charlie.
We got a lot to cover tonight.
We do.
There's a lot going on, including everybody.
The House of Representatives is officially in Republican hands, which is just terrific.
And then there's a very special announcement happening tonight from Mar-a-Lago.
And I think that it's going to be something historic in many different ways.
But Andrew, I'll be honest, if you would have told me a month ago that Donald Trump is running for president, I didn't think I would be receiving the text messages I would be receiving.
Now, no doubt the vast majority of emails of you are very excited about Donald Trump running for president.
But I think a theme that we are going to dive into and that we're going to build out is this is not going to be a coronation, isn't it Andrew?
This is going to have to be earned.
What are your thoughts?
Yeah, I mean, we put out the comment on your social media.
And, you know, depending on the platform, Twitter was less forgiving.
But we asked the question, we said, you know, hey, because you've been getting a lot of messages that people are frustrated by some of the attacks recently with Yunkin and DeSantis.
For those of you messaging me that you've been turned off by Trump attacks on DeSantis, et cetera, what, if anything, would you like to hear from the president tonight that would change your mind and regain your support?
Carrie Lake for running mate, got that a lot.
DeSantis is his VP.
Stop attacking DeSantis.
Humility.
I just want the truth tonight.
And then another major theme in the comments, Charlie, has been the audience really just wants to hear about the future, which is interesting because we have an audience that's very, very cued in on election integrity, what happened in 2020.
And I think after the midterms, the tone has changed and people really want to hear about, they want to recapture, as you put it this morning, they want to recapture that 2016 energy.
They want that magic of what he's going to do to make America great again.
I think people feel like they're losing their country.
They see what happened to this midterm.
Thank God we have the house, but they want to recapture it and look forward.
Yeah, I think that's right.
And I mean, Donald Trump at his best is talking about what he's going to do.
We're going to build the wall.
The wall just got 10 feet taller, bringing American manufacturing back to the country.
And I think what is really bothering some people, as based on the messages I'm receiving, is that Donald Trump became a very good kingmaker.
And no doubt, Ron DeSantis would not be governor of Florida if it was not for Donald Trump.
No one doubts that, including Ron DeSantis.
But what I think bothers some people is when the kingmaker starts to go after his own disciples.
Does that make sense, Andrew?
Where all of a sudden the kingmaker then starts to go after the people that he helped raise up.
I'll tell you, Charlie, I think you're right on.
And we do have Jack Pisobic, who is now on the stream.
We'll bring him in in just a second.
I think, and Jack, I'd love to get your opinion on this, but I think a lot of the notes that we're receiving is: I love Trump, and I, you know, for those who still support Trump, it's like, but I still like DeSantis.
DeSantis hasn't done him dirty yet.
You know, there's nothing, I mean, he was great on Disney.
He was great on the VAX.
He was great on lockdowns.
Yeah, I mean, CRT, everything that we were asking conservatives to do, he was over in Florida doing it.
And so they don't like it because, you know, I think you could attack Yunkin and you could get away with it.
People are still unsure about that.
But DeSantis seems like it was off limits and it made people left people with a bad taste in their mouth.
Jack.
Oh, do we have Jack Poseobic?
Is Jack Doc?
Is Jack here?
Jack's here.
Oh, the great Jack is here.
Jack, how we doing?
Well, folks, I'd just like to say that I'm very honored to be here this evening and to formally announce that yes, I, Jack Michael Poseobic, will be running for the presidency in 2024.
I hope that everyone, Charlie, obviously you're not age-eligible yet to run for president, so you won't be able to do this.
But apparently, according to CNN, which a new article I just read like five seconds ago from the great Donnie O'Sullivan, we all love him.
He said, Facebook has a memo that says, if you are running for president, that you can't be fact-checked.
Did you see this?
Andrew, I know I sent you a copy.
So apparently, if you're running for president and it goes in to quote Andy Stone, you guys remember Andy Stone.
I'm still waiting for the results of Andy Stone's big investigation into the Hunter Biden laptop, which he said seems like obvious disinformation.
He said they're conducting internal investigation.
He never got back to us about that one.
But he said, political speech is ineligible for fact-checking.
This includes the words a politician says, as well as video, content, photos that are clearly labeled as created by the politician or their campaign.
So I said, great, we can all announce that we're running for president.
You don't have to register.
You don't even have to vote for yourself.
But as long as you're running for president, that means no longer you can be fact-checked on Facebook.
So that includes Instagram, by the way.
That includes whatever else is tied.
You know, Mark Zuckerberg owns like half the internet right now.
So yes, I am running.
I am formally running for president, and I hope that everyone else does as well.
By the way, we got an email here from which, and Charlie, if you don't have to register, I mean, you know, just go ahead.
The age thing shouldn't even matter.
Yes.
I'm laughing out loud because, yes, Jack, I'm not yet eligible for that.
But one of the main reasons we wanted the stream tonight is obviously Trump is going to announce his run for the presidency tonight.
Republicans have won the House.
But I'm feeling in the emails.
You guys are frustrated.
By the way, feel free to vent at me.
Feel free to say whatever you want at me.
I only take some of them personally.
Okay.
And the ones I take personally are where you're wrong.
Now, it is perfectly fair to say, Charlie, you gave us guarantees that didn't come true.
I fully acknowledge that, and I've apologized repeatedly.
I'll apologize again.
What bothers me is when people say things I didn't say.
However, here's one thing I do want to dive into.
And there's the story from Gateway Pundit that just why were you so confident, Charlie?
Why were you so confident?
And Andrew, you remember we nailed the primary.
Jack, you were there.
We nailed the primary.
And the reason being is that more Arizona data, and if someone can explain this to me, I think we all know what happened, is 17% of Maricopa Election Day voters were Democrat.
Only 23% of Election Day voters were Democrat.
But Democrats are winning 50% of delayed Election Day vote totals.
Andrew, you saw this article as well, didn't you?
And this is why the data is just so confusing to us.
It's befuddling because we had baked into our models at least a 50 to 70,000 vote cushion, which it was off by 75,000 votes.
Say, did really that many Democrats vote that day?
What do you think, Andrew?
Well, I mean, we did see some indication, and I sent you guys the data breakdown that there was a potential loss.
Now, I'm not ready to rest on this.
I haven't tweeted about it.
You haven't tweeted about it, but there was a potential loss of between seven and nine percent of Republican votes.
Some data breaks it down that way: that seven to nine percent of registered Republicans in the state of Arizona broke with the party and voted for Katie Hobbs.
I think that's really hard for people in this audience to comprehend.
They instantly go to fraud, they instantly go to algorithms, machines, whatever.
I'm open-minded.
You know, I'm sure the audience is going to call me a Democrat.
Deep State Andrew, whatever.
Deep State Andrew.
Andrew's a member of the deep state.
You didn't know that?
Andrew has exposed himself.
Andrew's actually.
But here's the thing.
That's too far.
That's too far.
I have standards.
Lisa Page is not my cup of tea.
Here's the deal.
Oh, man.
I'm sorry.
I'm just Lisa Page is the lover.
So here's the thing.
If that's true, the only thing I can think to, okay, so audience, follow me.
I'm not saying fraud didn't happen.
Okay.
Let's keep an open mind there.
We're waiting for evidence.
We're ready to jump on if it happens.
But if that number is true, 7 to 9% of Republicans broke with the party.
What could be the explanation?
I go to one thing: Dobbs.
Charlie, you warned about this repeatedly, repeatedly.
It's interesting that you don't think that the conservative movement is as pro-life as you, Jack.
Jack, you and I got blown up today, didn't you?
I'm sure you got a couple.
I'm still getting blown up.
Actually, Jack, it's interesting.
I think you got blown up more than I did because I think, I mean, look, I've been saying this for weeks.
And again, people are accusing me of not being pro-life, which is just so silly.
I mean, it's just, I have a little bit more sophistication.
What I'm saying is that running on an abortion ban is not politically popular.
It's not.
No, we were criticizing Lindsey Goodwill.
That's right.
And I got a message from someone I really respect, Terry Schilling.
And I want to have him on the program.
And he said, Charlie, we have a polling that shows the opposite.
By the way, Trump just dropped his FEC paperwork.
He's running for president, just so we're clear.
Donald Trump for president, Inc.
Breaking news on 20 streams.
It is official.
Yes, somebody said tonight, Charlie, he's not going to announce for president.
He's going to announce that he's actually the president.
That's funny, actually.
My take, well, just on that real quick, is, you know, I don't think it's, I don't think it's breaking news if Trump's running for president.
I think it's like the worst kept secret.
But at the same time, what I'm looking for is if he makes any indications towards a VP, if he makes any.
And you know, we all know Trump.
We all know how he is.
This is going to be, he loves playing the game of keeping people guessing.
He loves playing the game of what's he up to.
He wants to get inside your head.
And so he's certainly been dropping hints.
And I know like, you know, pretty much all the talk within Trump world not to, you know, reveal anything, but a lot of chatter about a potential female pick.
I'll just be upfront with that.
I think that's the, you know, I'm not sure which part of the country, though, we could say Sunbelt, perhaps Sunbelt, that it would not fraud.
Beto O'Rourke would qualify with two of those, but he was in the wrong party.
So here he matters.
Here he's up for grabs.
Prove me wrong.
Anyway, so I want to welcome everyone on the stream.
You guys can email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
Donald J. Trump for president has dropped their paperwork.
We're going to take the speech live as it happens, right, Andrew?
Do we have the team ready to do that?
Yep.
We're going to be taking the stream from Real America's Voice, our partners at RAV.
So they're in the room.
And we're also going to be hearing from Tyler Boyer, who is the COO of Turning Point Action.
He's going to be reporting.
He's going to zoom in live, set the scene for us.
So he's ready to go.
Wait, it's going to be interesting.
Wait, wait, wait.
So when we were messing around with Tyler the other day and we demanded that he go as our ambassador and representative to Mar-a-Lago, he actually went.
He's leading the turning point delegation at Mar-a-Lago.
It's like the Olympics where you send like a flag waiver.
My brother.
So my brother is representing House Post.
House Turning Point is well represented.
Yours sounds like Game of Thrones, though, Jack.
100%.
Oh, you're talking to the angry Game of Thrones?
Jack knows Game of Thrones much better than I do.
I got to tell you.
I've tried to data dump a lot of it, and I'm definitely not watching the new whatever.
House of the Dragon.
Dragon, House of the Thing.
Yeah.
I have a confession.
You've been watching it?
I haven't been watching.
There's nothing else on right now.
I think it's either that or like reruns of Seinfeld again.
It just could be a show.
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
Yeah, that's true.
I actually, I will tell you, you know what's interesting?
So I was, I mean, I don't think this is revealing too much.
I was on the phone with some folks over at Fox today, and they actually have a documentary whole series about Yellowstone with guess who?
Kevin Costner coming.
Wow.
Yeah.
So all of a sudden they told me that the gates are flying off.
A bunch of celebrities, Hollywood types, are coming to Fox now that Kevin Costner's done it.
And so maybe Fox is not off limits for these people now.
Yeah, because Costner's a big lib.
Liz Cheney's Pennsylvania Victory 00:14:34
I mean, he was a huge Biden guy.
He was a big, like.
I brought that up.
Didn't he?
I brought that up with the Liz Cheney thing, remember?
Well, exactly.
But his take on that was he was supporting a conservative, even though he was like a liberal.
I don't know.
I don't agree with it.
I know she's not a conservative.
I'm just telling you, this was their take because he's like, he likes to, their take on it was that he likes to be enigmatic.
Okay.
Like politically unigmatic.
Yeah.
I mean, if you're supporting Liz Cheney, maybe he just isn't in the game enough to know what he's doing.
If you're supporting Eliz Cheney, then the one person supporting her left, yes, then that's definitely an enigma.
That's definitely, you know, but to go back to what you were saying about the undervote for Kerry, you know, and Charlie, you know, I'd love to look at the polling and yeah, 100% pro-life.
I mean, that's me.
But, you know, you also have to look at some of the polling.
And Terry sent me a message as well about that the polling shows that the first 15 weeks really, really resonates well with voters.
That time limit, putting a time limit there works well.
It's the full-on band talk that really dropped them out.
And so let me be very clear.
That's the distinction I was talking about.
And I was talking about like six specific states, not necessarily the whole country, but I think that there are areas, swing states in particular where that came up.
And Lindsey Graham definitely, what can I say?
He boned us on that one.
And when you're also talking about Arizona, though, and that, you know, maybe Charlie, you know better than the rest of us, I got to say, you know, I do still think that there is a lingering component of the McCain Republican in Arizona that most more than likely, it wasn't so much that they decided to, that all of a sudden they woke up and became liberal.
It was more like we are going to vote for Katie Hobbs out of spite.
Yeah.
And so, look, Arizona's a tricky state.
And I actually believe that there was probably a 5% to 7% undervote.
I mean, I'm Carrie Lake's biggest fan and booster.
And if I were to give some constructive feedback of which I know people don't want to hear right now because she should fight.
She was suppressed.
She was disenfranchised.
But there was a legitimate, and I could see it in the precincts.
She did win the Paradise Valley precincts, but she didn't win them by as much as she probably should have.
And there was a massive, a very well-funded, very persuasive, might I add, Republicans Against Cary Lake advertising campaign that launched three weeks out from the election.
Now, Jack, if you were launching a campaign three weeks out from the election, why would you do that?
Because you're trying to get same-day voters.
That's why.
So what they did is they launched a taper campaign that was not for early voters.
It was for people that were dropping off their ballot.
Now, do I think that it played?
I don't know the impact it made.
I think that ballot capturing and ballot harvesting, the illegal activity 100% happened here in Arizona.
We know that from the indictments in San Luis, thanks to Greg Phillips and Katherine Engelbrecht.
You just, you don't get these numbers unless somebody is collecting these ballots.
It should be illegal in Arizona, but enough people are not getting indicted or getting criminalized, basically facing criminal penalties for that.
However, if we want to look at other things that probably hurt us, there was a very, very persuasive Republicans Against Carrie Lake campaign, where they said, I'm a Republican and I'm not voting for Kerry Lake.
In fact, we don't need to play the tape, Andrew.
I don't think that's helpful.
But it was all over the valley.
It was billboards.
It was text messages.
It was over-the-top advertising.
It was television advertising.
And they really ramped it up going into election day.
And they ramped it up going into election day to try to have a 3% to 5% taper.
Whatever Democrat consultant thought of that was brilliant because...
Well, Charlie.
Yeah, Charlie, think about that.
I mean, I hadn't pinpointed this.
Jack, I think it's brilliant.
Charlie, I think it's brilliant.
I think you're right.
I think that there was, if you specifically look at Arizona as a microcosm, actually, it's just like a sort of a subclimate, right?
Within the larger climate, nowhere else was the election integrity battle so fierce as it was in Arizona.
There was a lot of frayed nerves from that.
I mean, we now have information that Stephen Richer has given money to Patriot takes.
I mean, Jack, you were behind that scoop.
I mean, that's so telling.
It wasn't much money, but it's very telling.
And if you look at the group is like far, far beyond left.
Yeah.
And you were looking at some of the other donors to Stephen Richard's PAC.
I mean, it's very telling where this man's head's at.
And we also have that piece of information from Bill Gates, who gave an interview.
What pack, Andrew?
What are you talking about?
What do you mean this guy's running an election?
He has a pack.
In all fairness.
Look, Bill Gates had a pack, but that wasn't the main thrust of it.
Steve Richards.
That's right.
But the main, here's something that ended up, it's the revenge of the Cheney McCain, right?
And look, what's that old expression, Jack?
If you're going to take aim at the king, you best not miss, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, you come at the king.
And boy, if you take aim at the McCain and Cheney mafia, you best not miss.
Because what ended up happening is the Cheneys, they know how to raise money, and it got very personal between Liz Cheney and Carrie Lake.
And Liz Cheney experienced a humiliating defeat in Wyoming, as we know.
And she decided to take her focus south.
And a lot of the Teton County Jackson Hole elite, they also have homes in Paradise Valley and Scottsdale.
It's like Arizona is like a suburb of Jackson Hole, right?
One sec.
And so then Liz Cheney probably had 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 strong donors in Arizona, and they started to run these ads.
Now, the ads that I thought were actually unpersuasive are the ones of Liz Cheney talking about not to vote for Kerry Lake.
I don't think that would move the dial.
The one that was persuasive is where they had these very high-definition people sitting in a living room saying, I'm a lifelong Republican and you need to know about Carrie Lake.
Now, was that the differentiator?
I don't know, right?
I mean, because ballot harvesting and capturing, but we're talking about 10,000 votes, 20,000 votes, right?
We're talking about slim margins.
And so when you're talking about things on the margins, you have to identify some things.
But what was so interesting, Andrew, is, you know, I'm a consumer of college football.
Therefore, I have to watch stupid amounts of advertising, right?
You just, it's inescapable, right?
Especially when I'm watching certain Pac-12 teams like the Oregon Ducks.
And so, therefore, you're just getting inundated with local advertising, right?
So you have a good idea of what's happening in Arizona.
And as I was watching this in Arizona, I started to realize there was a total tone shift from the ads where Carrie Lake is too extreme for Arizona, which was definitely designed for independents and designed for early voters, to all of a sudden, I'm a Republican.
And I think that Carrie Lake is not really the type of Republican we want.
And that was a five to seven point taper.
And Andrew, I mean, again, ballot capturing, all that stuff, I mean, machines going down.
I admit, I acknowledge it.
I see it.
I factor it in.
But let's be honest.
Some of these precincts, our models were thrown off.
I have to wonder if that advertising campaign where they put five to $10 million in it last two weeks might have made a difference.
Well, I think you're right, Charlie, because look at the race in the primary that Karen Taylor Robeson ran way closer, especially on election night, than we were expecting.
That's the establishment wing, the McCain wing of the party.
I mean, it came out and it surprised a lot of people to the point where we weren't sure that Carrie Lake was going to win on election night in the primary, right?
I mean, she ended up blowing her away, but think about that percentage of voters.
If you have five, seven, as we said, some of the numbers say seven to nine percent of Republicans drop off, it's almost like the McCain wing lost the battle, but they ended up winning the war because they were able to disaffect at the end.
And all of these registration numbers didn't match the voting trends.
I mean, that's really what happened.
We were looking at how many votes were left on the board, how many R's versus D's, and we were seeing independents break our way.
Maybe that's where the difference between Abe, who was not locked in a tough way.
Abe's in a really tough, Abe might not win.
But to the point, Abe overperformed Carrie.
So those same voters maybe didn't disaffect on Abe as much as they did Carrie.
Now, I understand everybody in our audience wants to talk about fraud and machines and all that stuff, but let's, you know, Occam's razor.
Sometimes the more obvious answer is the answer.
Yeah.
Well, no, I was just going to say, also, look, you know, talk in Arizona, go look at like Kimberly Yee, right?
She won by 55%.
She didn't, she barely campaigned.
She just literally was like, I'm not going to tax you.
Vote for me.
Boring one, Charlie.
And that's and that won.
It could have been because she didn't.
There could have been an arithmetic meme, right?
I mean, sorry, Jack, finish that thought.
Well, no, my point is, and going off what Andrew kind of said there, was that she benefited from the turnout, but because, you know, it was sort of like neither side knew which one she was on, they all just kind of voted for her.
Yeah.
Well, and I think, you know, a theme of this election, guys, is boring one.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how to break it down.
I don't think, I don't think that's the best way to word it.
I think that it was, it was a blend, right?
Of I'm going to do strong conservative stuff, but I'm not going to, I'm not going to be in a communication way that doesn't want to make you change the channel if you're an independent.
Now, I'll be very honest.
I'm the worst poll, like the worst focused group ever.
I thought everything Kerry was doing was amazing, but I get one vote, right?
I mean, I love it.
I mean, how many times are you going to get me to, wow, yes, go yeah.
And that's that's that's you just got to factor that in.
So people said this.
Someone says this, Charlie, I can't watch you anymore.
We need fighters, not people who roll over when elections are robbed from us.
You don't want to lose sponsored, be canceled.
They're calling election denier.
I just won't watch.
Good luck.
All right, Nick, you obviously don't watch our program.
How many times have we talked about the machines disenfranchising things?
And I'm reading the negative emails for a reason because I want people to know that we acknowledge any of the, let's just say, opposition.
But by the way, we're on top of all of this.
I have a question, though.
Instead of attacking our show, why don't you ask the question, why hasn't there been a significant lawsuit filed yet?
That's a serious question.
It's been a week.
Jack, your thoughts.
Yeah, no, I agree.
And look, at the end of the day, we also have to be smart if we're going to use lawfare, if we're going to use the legal system, because how many lawsuits did we see filed in the wake of 2020?
And how many of them actually overturned elections?
How many of them got stuff turned on?
Now, there were a few, by the way, late breaking in my home state of Pennsylvania when it came to undated ballots, when it came to signature matching, stuff like that that got overturned.
But when it came to any of this major stuff, no, I mean, it was not something that was turned over.
But one dynamic that I just kind of want to throw out at you guys that we're actually pulling out in Pennsylvania, looking at the numbers, and you know, it's interesting you mentioned the boarding candidate because we did obviously have Dr. Oz running for Senate.
But that in Pennsylvania, it's an entirely different dynamic.
So it wasn't so much that we had these Republicans who shifted over.
It's actually something like 10% of the Republicans that we thought were going to come out, they just stayed home.
They just totally stayed home for Oz and Mastriano.
So it's like Mastriano gets out the 43%, you know, like that ultra-Trump base that's still in Pennsylvania.
And then sort of your regular Republicans, but there are all these low-propensity voters that just totally decided to stay home.
Totally would have been the difference in the Senate race by far, would have definitely made up a lot of ground in the governor's race.
But that's the fight that we have to look at in Pennsylvania.
That these guys, for whatever reason, they just decided to stay home election day and they didn't vote early either.
Andrew, your thoughts.
I'm looking at Southern California for another example, Jack.
You know, all eyes are on what's happening in Maricopa.
I love that you brought in Pennsylvania because it's another important race.
By the way, Trump won it in 2016.
I think a lot of that was because the Democrats were caught flat-footed.
But in Southern California, specifically in Orange County, which is a bastion of conservatism and a sea of blue, right?
We're seeing late votes that are trickling in, padding Republican vote totals.
So that's the Michelle Steels.
That's, we, you know, we called another Southern California race this morning.
I'm telling you, California voters are California candidates, Republican candidates, have been protesting ballot harvesting as much as anybody, but they finally said, screw it.
If we can't beat them, we got to join them.
So guess what's happening?
California Republicans are winning the trickle-in votes.
It's not, you're not seeing that slow trickle away of their lead just evaporate over time.
You're seeing it grow.
So what does that tell you?
Tells you there's hope.
There's hope if we start playing.
I'll say this about the California deal.
Number one, anyone in California right now in Southern California that worked hard on this election, you guys deserve immense credit.
Would not have the House of Representatives without fighters all through California in Kevin Kiley's district and Michelle Steele's district.
By the way, Katie Porter is on the ropes.
She might lose.
Scott Ball ran a great race, and there was a huge ballot dropped tonight that was really, really favorable.
Very favorable.
Yep.
No kidding.
I'm not guaranteeing anything, but I got a great update from Teresa, a great grassroots activist I know in Orange County.
I think you know her.
What's the district?
I don't know.
There's like 200 of them in California with not that many, but I think it's California 30 or 25.
I got to look at it.
But hey, tomorrow on the program, you guys are going to see my pastor, Rob McCoy.
He ballot harvested in his church.
So does Jack Hibbs.
They have just a Dropbox that's secure, and they tell.
Jeb Bush Tweet Analysis 00:07:44
Wait, I was.
Go ahead.
No, it's good.
Didn't they try to sue to stop this?
Wasn't that like a big deal, actually?
Yeah, I think the churches won.
I think churches won the lawsuit.
Yeah, let me seriously.
No, at least.
Here's the story.
Here, Jack, I'll send it to you.
Because I know Post Melanie wrote it up today, but I didn't have time to actually dig into it.
But then I didn't realize, duh, yeah, right.
Obviously, Pastor McCoy is right there in California.
So that would probably let's just get him on.
Say, Pastor McCoy, how do we throw it?
He's coming on the program tomorrow to walk us through it.
Just break it up.
And we have Jennifer Van Law, who actually wrote and, you know, and she's based in Ventura County, so right in Mike Garcia's district.
Mike Garcia is probably going to win also.
Trump has taken the stage, everybody.
That's what I'm told.
So if he's up, let's go.
I'm told that he has taken the stage.
I don't know.
And Ed Henry still seems to be talking.
He has.
All the phones are up.
Well, let's take it.
Let's take the feed, please.
First off, huge shout out to everybody watching.
Charlie is running.
He has to deal with another assignment that he was up to.
But just to reiterate for that, that little glitch that happened during the stream earlier, that was not an intended commercial break.
What we're being told is that was a preloaded thing in the system and it was an accidental cut.
We brought the stream right back as fast as possible because we are not one of those networks who shall remain nameless that decided to cut away and go to other programming in the middle of the speech.
Charlie named him.
I'll just be really honest on Twitter.
I was watching him live tweet.
He was like, MSNBC is talking about the virtues of abortion with Gretchen Whitmer.
And then Fox, well, CNN started live fact-checking Trump's speech, talking about how much the ocean would rise or not.
And then even Fox cut away.
But then Fox went back.
And to Fox's credit, they had Pete Hegseth, who's a bro, go up and defend Trump during the speech.
But nevertheless, that was a watch.
Jack, if you had to sum it up, all right, Jeb Bush is name-checking Donald Trump live junior, actually, believe it or not.
Jeb Bush Jr.
Yes, thank you.
What did Jeb Bush say?
And what's your reaction to everything that just happened?
Oh, I'll answer your question first.
And he goes, wow, what a low energy speech by the Donald.
Time for new leaders.
Hashtag week, hashtag sleepy Donnie, to which I responded, go ahead and run then.
Burn another $100 million of Bush money, just like your daddy did.
Look, imagine, by the way, imagine a Bush or a Cheney or anyone with one of these old dynasty names, a Clinton, you know, going in and saying, we need new leaders.
Like, I'm sorry, but that just ain't how it works, right?
That ain't how it works.
It's because of people like that that Trump won in the first place or even has any purchase anywhere.
And no, look, I thought it was a great speech.
I thought he met the moment.
He went longer than I thought he would.
I thought that his highest notes for me were when he talked about trade, when he talked about immigration.
Obviously, he went on about tariffs.
He talked about, and honestly, peace, the peace deals, the fact we have only one, think about this, right?
In a world where we were seriously, for about a two-hour window today, we were in this fog of war situation with Poland and Russia and Ukraine.
And we didn't know, did Russia bomb Poland?
Did they shoot missiles into Poland and kill Polish people deliberately?
What was going on with this?
You've only got one person.
You've got one person at the presidential level in the United States.
And it's just true that has promised and has a track record of actually seeking to fight for world peace, number one, but then number two, to also withstand the temptation for war, right?
Because it's easy to rattle the sabers.
It's easy to say, we're going to, you know, go in and we're going to do this.
And certainly, you know, Donald Trump during his presidency had used the bully pulpit for that.
You know, remember, everyone remembers my button is bigger than his.
But it's one thing to say that, but also to promise peace and then to not act on those intentions versus a guy like Bush, who, you know, we all saw what happened there, right?
And so I really think that when you look at this movement that is a lasting and hopefully a long-lasting effect of the Trump era as we continue into this next phase, by the way, of the Trump era, that the Republican Party being this neocon Warhawk party won't last, that it won't be around forever.
And that is what we are definitely going to talk about at America Fest, right, Andrew?
Absolutely.
And by the way, Arizona, 50% off, which is insane.
I can't believe they're issuing that.
Okay, so Arizona is the promo code.
What do you mean 50% off?
It can't be 50% off general admin is like the deal.
If somebody would have somebody would have asked me, I'd have been like, that's too steep.
I know what the bills are for this event.
No, 45, 45, 35.
35.
30% off.
20% off.
That would have been, he didn't, nobody ran that fast to answer.
Listen, I'm glad our stream is getting it because, yeah, nobody ran that by me.
I know the bills that we have to pay.
Yeah, I'm not tweeting that out, by the way.
That is only for people watching the stream.
Please don't.
That's only for the stream.
And that's just because Charlie's feeling pumped up because of the Trump speech or something.
I don't know what the deal is.
But hey, listen, here's the deal.
Jack, what you brought up was really, really interesting about Jeb's tweet.
Yeah.
My first thought was, A, he lives rent free.
Donald Trump lives rent free inside the Bush's heads.
I mean, I'm not going to lie.
I don't, I didn't even know there was a Jeb Bush Jr.
Who's the senior?
I don't know who the senior is.
You know, I guess I'm ignorant.
I knew George P. Bush, but I didn't realize there was a Jeb Bush Jr.
Yeah, there's the tweet.
Wow, what a low energy speech by the Donald.
I mean, frankly, if you're giving somebody a nickname like the Donald, you're paying him a backhanded compliment.
It makes Donald Trump.
That's actually, that was his name when everybody.
But let me let me say this, though.
I do want to say this because people, people were calling him saying that I saw a bunch of people and you also saw people in the Never Trump crowd who have been really rearing their heads lately saying, oh, they said, oh, he looks tired.
I think he looks tired.
I think he looked calm.
To me, I thought it was calm and it was interesting.
We were joking during the speech a little bit over text that he must have listened to our live stream earlier when we were kind of talking about, because we were just having that exact conversation.
And I said, look, I did his tweet this.
I said, look, if Trump gets loud, they call him angry.
But then if Trump speaks calmly, they call him tired.
And I just wrote, yawn, you aren't interesting, right?
But it's really true that if you're looking for a version of Trump to get mad at, well, if you're mad at him being angry, right?
If he gets loud, he does the whole, they're sending the Mexicans, they're sending the and they're not sending their best.
Yeah, they're not sending their best.
Some, I assume, are good people.
He totally winged it.
I forget if I think that original 2016 speech, right?
And of course, people are hearkening back to that six years ago, that speech.
Don't Fear Trump's Tweets 00:03:18
I mean, people were looking at that saying, man, it was just so iconic.
What do you, you know, you have to, you almost in your mind, you're comparing the two.
And if I remember that one specifically, he had like maybe a couple of note cards with maybe some talk, like one or two talking points on it.
And that was it.
He was just up there riffing the whole time.
I think, I think he was, you know, we talked about this.
Listen, I'm going to keep telling our audience this.
They can hate me all they want.
I'm telling you the truth, folks.
Boring one.
And after what happened, I guarantee the feedback that was happening in the Trump world was like, listen, that DeSantis quip went over like a lead balloon.
Wait, you guys, I think Andrew is burying the lead here.
I think he, I'm reading between the lines.
He goes, hmm, somehow Trump world found out exactly what I was talking about.
Andrew, did you tell us that you had a little hand, a little everybody?
I'm going to keep things, you know, it's mysterious.
It's good.
It was like my coming out party as, you know, people started blowing me up on Twitter and things like that.
So listen, here's, I'm not talking about the other thing, okay?
All right.
But I, but, but I will tell you, I think that thing went over like a lead balloon.
Everybody told him about it.
They said, you got to drop back.
You got to be presidential.
You got to keep it straightforward.
And listen, what he needed to do tonight, I believe he delivered.
As soon as that music comes on, as soon as he comes and makes that appearance with all the pageantry, you get a feeling of that magic from 2015, 2016.
The imagery of this event last night or that we just saw with the Biden dark speech in Philadelphia at Independence Hall.
And that Biden speech, and it resonates with me so much because, like, I'm from the Philadelphia area.
I've been going to Independence Hall, I don't know, since as long as I can remember, right?
You're always there.
You're like every weekend, you're down there.
And so I've never seen, like, I've never seen that area turned into, you know, a symbol of darkness, a symbol of red evil, the way it looked like it was lit up in those photos.
You know, taking something that is just an American, an absolute American icon, something that should be beyond partisanship in the Independence Hall itself are, you know, essentially what was, which was, you know, in a sense, was our first capital, right?
During the Continental Congress, at least.
People can argue about that, you know.
But, you know, this whole, well, because you had the court on one side and the Congress on the other side and the executives.
So it's, you know, it was kind of like our first capital.
But to take that and turn it into such a dark and negative place where Biden essentially was declaring any Trump supporter to be a, you know, an enemy of the state, an enemy of the deep state, you know, versus with Trump, you know, he's, he talked about inclusion.
He talked about, he made sure to name the fact that he was, he's, I say, Hispanics, African Americans, Asian Americans.
Like, this is all people, all Americans.
Paul Pelosi Incident Update 00:15:08
I think he needs the taco bowl tweet again.
I mean, I think.
That being said, yeah, don't be, don't be scared, right?
Don't be scared to be the Trump of 2016 either.
If I could add one note, if I could add one note, I would say don't be scared to kind of go down that, you know, what was the Dave Bossi book, right?
Don't let Trump be Trump, right?
Don't be scared to kind of let some of those tweets fly, let some of those truths fly.
By the way, scared to lean in a little bit.
Speaking of tweets, your tweet flew during that when you added Elon Musk and said, hey, now that he's a announced official candidate, shouldn't he be back on Twitter?
I mean, if he's going to come back on the Twitter Twitter Trust, I've got one that's absolutely viral right now.
I mean, it's over, you know, it's over 9,000, right?
No, but you tweeted that like 10 seconds ago, and it's like 20,000 likes.
Yeah, so it's, it's, it's, I tagged Elon Musk and I wrote, and I simply wrote it.
I laid it out this way.
And I believe 26.3,000 likes, Jack.
I believe that Americans believe in fairness.
And I believe that Elon Musk is a guy who's not ideological.
And I've, I taped a special today, actually, that's going to come out with Darren Beattie this Sunday, but we taped it earlier today where we talked about Elon Musk and we said, look, I don't think Elon is necessarily an ideological conservative or a liberal, but I do think he believes in fair play.
And the way I tweeted this out, and Elon, of course, has read Darren Beattie's work.
He's fine because he's just looking for the right answer and he doesn't care where it's from.
It's like he doesn't have that political correctness gene that all the wokeys and millennials and Zoomers have.
It's very Gen X, right?
It's very Gen X.
I just want the answer.
I just want the answer.
I don't care where it's from.
And so I wrote, look, Elon Musk, there is a declared candidate for the president of the United States who has been banned from Twitter while the incumbent Joe Biden is allowed to tweet every day.
Will Twitter allow the challenger to use the platform as well in the 2024 election?
It's the best argument you could make for Trump coming back to Twitter as well as to Trump.
It's not only an argument that you're making to Elon, you're making it to Trump himself, who's obviously invested in true social, wants to make that platform fly.
But if he's going to win the reelection in 2024, he's going to have to engage where they ain't, you know, where they are, right?
Yeah.
And that's, that's, that's on these platforms like Twitter and TikTok, YouTube.
I think TikTok should be banned, but I mean, you got to go where the voters are, right?
You got to be everywhere.
Yeah.
Absolutely have to be everywhere.
Now, obviously, I believe that he does have potentially some legal reasons to need to be on truth.
But at the same time, why couldn't you have an account on Twitter which simply mirrors whatever he posts on truth?
Yeah.
Right.
Why not?
You really say the truth, President Trump's truths.
And think about that from a legal perspective, by the way.
Is Elon Musk really going to sit there and say that the Trump campaign in 2024, which is a new entity that only has only existed for what, a couple of minutes now when he filed the papers?
Good point.
That campaign is banned from using Twitter as a platform with its, you know, whatever amount of actual daily users, right?
It puts him in a tough position.
It puts Elon in a tough position because it's hard to say no.
It's hard to say no under the rules of fair play.
Will you allow Trump to come back or not?
Because if you're going to allow, if you're not going to allow him, you've got to come up with some rationale.
Why?
And I don't think there is one.
And I think it would actually put Twitter in kind of a legal bind because then if they sued, what court is going to sit there and say that there's any standard that would allow a platform to ban only one candidate for office?
It doesn't make any sense.
I think it's a very compelling argument.
And apparently Twitter agrees with you.
It's like a 30,000 already.
And I mean, you know, I mean, Jack, Jack, you are the czar of Twitter.
It's a fit.
All right, Jack, Jack, I'm going to play back some cuts from this.
Wait, real quick, real quick.
One, one last point.
One last point that I want to, that I want to make is it was very interesting.
They said Trump brought up the fact that he, and he said, he said this before, but he brought up the fact that he would bring back every member of the military that was kicked out over the vaccine and he would restore them to full rank and back pay.
And it continues to astound me.
First of all, obviously, I think that's amazing.
And I would apply that to every federal worker, by the way.
And then if you can go into the companies as well, or at least come up with some system of restitution for these people that have been so horribly mistreated.
But at the same time, it continues to surprise me that Donald Trump seems to be the only politician in America, certainly on the right, that is just seeing this massive amount of free money just sitting on the table of restoring our military members, which I mean, that's like an 80-20 issue, right?
And nobody else, no other, I mean, I'm not saying McConnell, Rick Scott was trying to run for leader.
He's talking about it.
I don't necessarily think he's going to get there, but nobody else even mentions it.
It's just free money sitting right there.
Well, you successfully mentioned a clip that we don't have, but I completely agree.
I think that's 80-20, 90-10.
Nobody wants these people, you know, kicked out of the military.
These are our best men and women.
By the way, just so people are aware, Charlie, don't cut away, but Charlie's on Laura Ingram.
If you want to know what's happening, Charlie's literally reacting to the Paul Pelosi story as NBC had that, Jack, you remember this, that bombshell viral report about how Paul Pelosi opened the door to the police and said, eh, come on in.
And then he went and like, and then he went back to DePape or whatever it's to Pape.
And then the struggle ensued, right?
So they're sort of asking that question.
Then they scrubbed that report.
So Charlie's reacting to that.
I don't know why Fox is so into that story tonight, to be perfectly honest, but that's what he's saying.
Maybe it's like NBC got, you know, got egg on their face and it's like a punchback at NBC a little bit.
Yeah, I mean, they're all, just so we're aware, they've all been covering that tonight.
I sort of wonder if it, if it hasn't been sort of like an edict from on a high and then all of Fox is covering that story.
I'm kind of, that's an interesting take.
No, I mean, look, I think the biggest story is certainly in the country right now is what we're talking about right here.
Yeah, I don't understand.
So Charlie's going to be mine, by the way.
Right after that.
Charlie's doing the satcom hit in one building.
He's coming back, coming back to the stream.
So everybody's aware in about T minus three minutes.
An interesting comment that just came in.
You know, he pointed something out that a buddy of mine, Ricky Frankel, just posted.
And he writes the helipad substack and he's out there.
He's a California guy like you, Andrew.
He goes, and this was about my comment about, you know, if Trump gets loud, they call him angry.
If Trump speaks calmly, they call him tired.
He said, these are the same people that don't like Trump and they said that he's acting unpresidential.
You remember that?
It was always unpresidential.
You heard that for four years.
I heard that so many times that it just brings back bad memories.
Oh, presidential.
And then he acts presidential and they call him tired.
Right.
He acts presidential and now you called him tired.
But then he pointed, he goes out to point out, look, I voted for him because he was unpresidential.
We tried presidential with Bush, with McCain, with Romney so many times.
And how did that work out?
Yeah, not so well.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I really agree with that.
I think regardless of the context that you enter into, based on what comes before, they're going to hit you with the alternate, right?
I mean, the point is tribalism.
You're on that team.
You represent that.
We're going to hit you with whatever makes sense.
I mean, so it sort of doesn't matter what he does, people are going to hit him.
I think, I think, when he got into troubled territory, it was when he started attacking somebody the base also loves, and that's DeSantis, right?
Notice he didn't even mention it.
I sort of was like gaming it out.
I was like, if I'm Trump, if I'm messaging this, what do I say?
I might say, listen, I said something.
Nobody can take a joke.
It was a joke, all right?
You know, I was thinking like how he might Trumpify addressing that.
He skimmed right by it, didn't even bring it up.
Straightforward-looking.
He mentioned 2020 one time, from what I can remember.
And listen, he kind of mentioned it another time.
I'm going to play cut 334 for you, Jack.
This is, he does bring, he brings the word rigged into it once, but if you notice the messaging, and this is what's in, I think this is what's interesting.
He brings up the journey ahead, 334.
Jack, you're right.
I mean, you're hearing that stuff, and he's talking about the journey ahead towards the end.
I don't know if you have the clip or not, but that's because I'm willfully not looking at the clip list that you sent me.
But he talked about putting an American flag on Mars.
He's talking about getting out.
He's talking about getting forward.
To me, that really stood out because I remember one of my favorite lines of so my favorite Trump speech of all time is his 2016 nomination speech at the RNC, where he went for, you know, they attacked him for going so long.
I wanted him to go longer because he was just this is one in Cleveland where he's just blasting all the things that are wrong with the country and talking.
And remember, we didn't used to talk about inner city crime.
We didn't used to talk about all of the issues that we're talking about.
And finally, he was just breaking the seal, tearing the band-aid off of so many of these issues, illegal immigration, the fact that people are just pouring in across our borders, open borders, everything that had been going on.
And think of the context of the refugee crisis in 2015 that was happening at the time.
Now, there was also, though, a moment at 2016 where Peter Thiel spoke.
And what he said was, and he was discussing Iraq and Afghanistan, and he goes, Look, we decided we decided to invade the Middle East instead of colonizing Mars.
And I remember with that one sentence, Peter Thiel, it and then and then Trump got up later and he was talking about this.
By the way, he talked about it at debates.
He talked about it so often.
And this was, you know, to bring up Jeb Bush again, right?
This was the big contrast between Trump and Jeb Bush or in sort of the Bush dynasty early on in the election that because people remember Trump beating Clinton.
They forget the fact that he beat the Bushes first.
He took down the Bushes before he took down the Clintons.
A lot of people write him out.
They say, oh, this guy's job, we can't do anything.
We beat the Bushes and the Clintons.
I mean, which is interesting because what we talked about before the speech was maybe the revenge of the McCain flakes in Arizona.
Right.
So what the point of, if you're going to compare the movement of like a Carrie Lake, which we love, but to a Donald Trump, what makes it so extraordinary?
And I say this as somebody that's like, I don't love the DeSantis hate.
I don't love the Yunkin thing.
I'm not that guy.
You don't like the infighting.
Yeah, I hate it.
I hate it because it divides the base and it creates a whole bunch of questions that don't need to happen.
But the point is, what makes Trump, what Trump did in 2016 so extraordinary is not only did he slay the Bush East in 2015, but then he overcame them in the general.
They weren't able to backstab him like they just did maybe Carrie Lake in the general, where enough of them defected and he lost.
No, he beat them in the general two.
And that is the special gift of Donald Trump that he's able to, he's able to go up against his foes, and then they're not able to take him down enough where he doesn't overcome in the general election.
He beat them back.
That's also extraordinary.
In doing so, he also remade the party, right?
By going forward and number one, letting us finally admit that Iraq was a disaster, which everybody kind of knew.
I'm back, everybody.
Charlie's back.
He just brought on this outpouring.
Oh, there's Charlie.
Charlie's back.
Welcome back.
What happened to your suit, Charlie?
Amfest.com.
What did I miss?
From quote, Arizona, 50% off.
Oh, go ahead, Jack.
Go ahead.
Trump's running for president.
I don't know if you heard Charlie.
He's running at the catch that.
But apparently, Fox is only talking about Paul Pelosi or something.
What's up?
I don't know.
We talked about a lot of things.
How'd hide the hammer convo goes?
It's good.
I mean, look, the point I made is that since when are journalists held accountable and suspended, right?
So they say this guy's suspended.
Who is suspended for the Covington Catholic story?
Who is suspended for the Hunter Biden laptop story?
I mean, this idea of checks and balances in media, it seems to be very rare and only if you dare go after the Pelosi gang.
Usually you get awards and prizes if you lie.
I'm not saying he lied.
But if he did, then why do they usually get promoted for that?
You get, I don't know.
Yeah, interesting, Charlie.
Maybe, maybe he got inconveniently close to the truth.
That's right.
And they decided Icarus flying too close to the street.
Hey, by the way, we don't know what happened with the Paul Pelosi thing.
We don't know if this journalist was just off his rocker.
But the bottom line is, yeah, NBC is not telling us what happened.
So, you know, sorry if we jump to a couple conclusions and we draw a couple connections on our own.
If you're not going to fill in the blanks, our imagination will.
And I can tell you.
I can walk through that because there's been three separate stories on this on Paul Pelosi and who opened the door, right?
And so the main question is: who opened the door?
So Politico, I believe, had the first story on it.
And their story was another person opened the door, an unknown person opened the door.
So that's what led people to say, was there a third person?
Then NBC came out and said, no, Paul Pelosi himself opened the door.
That was story number two.
Now we're on story number three because I actually read the court documents today because, you know, that's what I do.
And it said that the police opened the door.
So we've got three separate stories on this.
And unfortunately for Paul Pelosi in the state of California, this is something, by the way, that that defendant can now use if he's got a good lawyer, good criminal lawyer.
He could use that in tribal.
Because I didn't know that liberal cope of the whole thing.
It's like, guys, this happens all the time.
Abe Hamaday Legal Strategy 00:15:23
Like, why are you so upset about it?
I mean, come on, like, naked people fly into your living room all the time with hammers.
Like, come on.
Well, there is Polly and Andrew.
It's naked, Berkeley, like quasi-homeless people.
That was basically their defense.
He's like, come on.
I mean, souped up people like that.
Don't.
I mean, obviously, MAGA.
This guy's MAGA.
I mean, obviously, it happens all the time.
MAGA people are breaking in without wearing clothes.
It happened to Andrew three times this week already.
I live in California.
I got another.
Okay, I got an update, everybody.
Abe Hamaday is down 771 votes.
And so you might say, oh, Charlie, what significance does that?
No, no, no, no.
You get a Republican attorney general in Arizona.
It's one of the largest attorney general offices in the country as far as number of attorneys.
He could uncover all this ballot harvesting stuff.
He could be a pressure on the governor.
It would be a total check and balance against the Katie Hobbs regime if Kerry Lake's legal strategy does not prove to be fruitful.
But, Andrew, now I can say with certainty, with certainty, that Abe Hamaday would have won if the machines would have been working in Maricopa.
Wow.
Yeah, I mean, he's got a lawsuit.
I mean, he's got a hell of a lawsuit.
He really does.
I mean, that's an obscene statistic.
By the way, he might have won this thing.
All the more reason in Arizona.
If you're listening to yourself, tomorrow's your last day to cure your ballot.
Cure your ballot.
Cure your ballot.
I don't want to hear any of your moping and groping and Charlie, you lied to us and all this numbers.
Yeah, no, cure your ballot.
So there are 2,750 election day votes yet to be counted that do not be cured.
There are right now, sitting in Maricopa's office, 6,040 early votes to be cured right there.
And so you got, I guarantee you, a portion of those are Republican.
I guarantee it.
This is just Maricopa.
And then there are 7,885 provisional count.
Now, out of those 7,885, 4,570 will not be counted because no, it's probably a good thing, Andrew.
Those are probably people that were trying to vote twice or do something goofy or they didn't reach the residency requirement, right?
Those people tend to be Democrats.
That's actually the system working.
I know people have such low faith in the system, but that's actually the system working.
Now, the only other thing, though, that is not incorporated in this is maybe, maybe, maybe the 4,570 provisional ballots that will not be counted are those voided votes in those black duffel bags, Andrew.
Maybe Andrew's muted.
I'm not sure.
Oh, he's on the phone.
What's he doing?
What are you doing on the phone?
Can you cut his feet if you're not?
Did your hammer boy call?
His hammer guy must be calling.
No, he's arranging his hammer appointment for later in the evening.
Stop it.
Stop.
No hammers here.
No hammers here.
Charlie.
Right.
Yeah.
No hammers while on air.
He's saying, hey, come back a half hour later.
Charlie's holding me late.
I'm working tonight.
No, that was Rav telling me they would call me back.
What the heck happened with that commercial break?
I blew him up.
I said, this is not accepted.
I did the whole Trump hands and everything.
So they called me back.
Go ahead, Jeff.
Okay, no, no, no.
I mean, my question for Charlie was: so at this point, what you're talking about, though, is that the Attorney General's race in Arizona may, in fact, come down to people curing their ballots.
That's basically what the.
So Cochise County still has ballots left.
Pinal County still has ballots.
There's conservative ballots left on the table here.
This is as tight as a knife's edge.
I mean, Abe Hamaday could end up winning the Attorney General's race by like 150 votes.
That's incredible.
I mean, that's one of those things.
You know, they say every vote counts, right?
There you go.
Attorney General of one of the most massive states, again, in the Southwest.
Huge, huge.
And by the way, that also means that he'd be the Attorney General during 2024.
This is so important.
I got to tell you, if you want to look at some consolation, right, of all of this Arizona nonsense, of all of this stuff, if he can get over that hurdle of 777 votes, you got to just win by one vote.
That's massive for the country.
It's massive.
It's not as good as the governor, but it could be better.
So let me just paint this to you.
It wouldn't be better than Kerry Lake.
But Abe Hamaday would be better than a moderate Republican governor.
That's how big of a deal this is.
Jack and Andrew, a good attorney general could change the state of Arizona, period.
Top to bottom.
Well, not only that, but let's keep in mind that it's who's it been that have been really knocking the Biden administration down in the federal courts.
It's red state attorney generals.
You saw this in Missouri with their big tech lawsuit.
You see it in Texas all the time with Ken Paxton.
I mean, he's really shown us the ability of the attorney general and the importance of the attorney generals across the entire country to not only, number one, obviously maintain law and order and the integrity of their own states, but also to be a bulwark against the overreach, right, of the federal government, which is currently occupied by the Biden regime.
This could be a massive win if Abe Hamadai is in there with a guy like him.
I mean, I could taking the two, really a two-track approach here.
Jack, I mean, think about it.
You look at Arizona versus Florida, right?
I mean, Florida, this is something we've been talking about.
Oh, my God.
Did you see this in the chat?
People see this?
Oh, my gosh.
Currently, Abe Hamaday, Abe Hamidae is projected to win by 19 votes.
Again, I'm not doing predictions anymore, everyone.
You're going to lynch me at this rate.
Okay.
Okay.
Cure your votes.
Cure your votes.
This is now a fire alarm.
This is.
Wait, no, is he saying he's going to win by 19 or he's going to win that?
No, no, meaning like that's how close we have no idea.
We have no idea.
And for all of you out there in Arizona that didn't vote, 19 votes.
19 votes.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, guys, like, listen, cure your votes.
If you want to do this, you can do it at carrylake.com forward slash cure.
Hey, listen, if Abe wins all day long.
I personally got Geo-TV'd like 45-day of.
And I know, Andrew, you got the Uber man.
You got Uber.
No, totally.
I got Uber guy.
I was in Phoenix getting an Uber ride to the studio the morning of the election, and I convinced him to vote.
And he was a Hispanic guy, very nice guy.
And he was like, I don't know.
We need a five-alarm fire across the board right now.
Jack, we need tweets.
We need the whole conservative movement right now to unify behind Abe Hamadai.
This is the most important thing left on the entire country right now.
Okay, and we are getting confirmation.
This is win by, just to clarify that, Charlie, so we're all clear here, everyone on the stream.
Win by 19 votes after all ballots are in.
Tomorrow's the last story.
Is that right?
I'm going to try and get him in the chat.
Hold on.
On the show.
If, by the way, if the modeling is off by like 0.001%, he could win by 40 votes or lose by five.
Yeah, well, I don't know if I want to trust the modeling right now.
Yeah, I'm done with modeling.
No more modeling.
Someone's about to email me.
Charlie, you're broadcasting it.
They're going to go find more ballots.
You're probably right.
I'm not tomorrow.
The only model I'm interested in right now is Melania.
Hold on.
I'm going to have Tyler come in.
I mean, Johnite.
But here, can I say one thing?
19 votes.
And for anyone out there that didn't vote, I hope Abe wins.
Hey, the difference between Florida and Arizona, you know, Charlie, you're talking about these ballot harvesters that we've been getting rumors of in Arizona.
I get it.
The reason that that happens is because they're not getting prosecuted.
You got to go with the Florida model where they're making a press conference out of people that they're catching and they're throwing them in prison.
You have to do that.
Even if we have Katie Hobbs as governor, God forbid, in Arizona, if Abe is able to go out and make a showing and perp walk ballot harvesters in a state where it's supposed to be illegal, that means a lot.
That means a lot to 2024.
Okay.
So, you know, get us over the finish line.
If you're watching this, carrylake.com forward slash cure.
All right.
She's got all the links there.
You know, it doesn't matter at this point what your feelings are about fraud, et cetera, et cetera.
Fine.
If that's you, if you're in that camp, go out cure the fraud.
Go get it done.
You want something to do?
We have to contact every person right now.
There is Abe's victory margin sitting in Maricopa right now for ballots to be cured.
There are 2,800 ballots that are Republican ballots waiting to be cured right now.
Can we get Tyler on right now?
Man, I'm working on it.
Wait, Charlie, how do we so you're able to see ballots that yes, we have by party registration?
We can see it by party registration.
But do you know if those people have could potentially be in the process of curing?
That's good question.
I don't, I don't know that's a great question.
Okay.
That's a good question.
Wow.
Man.
You people say, oh, it doesn't count if I vote 19 votes potentially.
This is insane.
Wow.
I know someone just emailed me, Charlie, stop getting our hopes up.
They're just going to take it again.
No, we're not.
We can't be cynical.
We got.
Stop it, doomers.
Stop it.
No black pills.
Let's get it done.
No hopium, but no black pills.
Everybody, if you are being a doomer, if you're being a little black pill out there and saying there are things we can do again, I point you to Southern California where they started harvesting and now conservatives are pulling ahead in the mail-in votes, votes that are coming in.
Okay.
Like not everything has to be that the Democrats have this like omnipresent, you know, finger on the algorithm.
I mean, I get that that's something we're looking at.
We're looking at it, but we don't have the evidence.
And so it doesn't have to be that the sky is falling, the sky is falling, the sky is falling.
Like, you know, this could be a thing where we can outgame them.
So let's outgame them on ballot curing.
I mean, we have to start looking with forward-looking progress.
I hate to use the progress word, but we have to start looking forward and we have to start saying how do we beat them in their game.
Curing is how we do it.
National Review, by the way, guys.
Sorry, just skimming the horizon a little bit.
National Review just posted a huge missive to Trump.
They wrote, they have a picture of him and the word no with period on it.
And it says a firm, unmistakable.
Have they ever done this before, Jack?
No, no, that's the first time that I can think of.
They're batting.
Oh, right.
That's oh, that's right.
They did the exact same thing in 2016.
And people would not like if I read some of the names that were on that, some of the names that are on that cover.
I mean, these people are like schizophrenic.
Oh, she was on there too?
No, I mean, a lot of people were.
No, I want you to read names.
No, I don't want to do that.
I'm going to do a redemption article.
Because some people came forward, but let's just say, let's just say there were some names on there in 2016 that have been completely disgraced ever since.
Mona Taron.
And there are some names that have, you know, have redeemed themselves, I would say.
Maybe, honestly, maybe like Katie Pavlich, Brent Bozell being two people that I think are terrific.
I'm two of the ones that I'm looking at.
Yeah, there's some people who have, look, and by the way, I've always said this going back to sort of the Never Trump question or just the people that weren't really there in 2016 when your country was on the line and the fate of our children and our future weren't there for us, you know, and you were nowhere to be found in the election of 2016.
I know where I was, but you know, let's, I have no problem with the November 9th Trump supporter.
Let me put it that way.
I have no problem with someone who wasn't there in the fight, but then came up on the camera after the election.
Yeah.
Yeah, I would call him a November 9th Trump supporter.
You know, I think there's a lot of people that, you know, we're looking at it in different ways.
And look, I get where Glenn was coming from.
I was an old school Glenn Beck fan going back to even before he was on TV the first time when he was on HLN before he was on Fox.
And I get it, right?
Trump was not a doctrinaire conservative.
He's not a movement conservative.
He still isn't in a movement conservative.
And I wouldn't think of him as one.
And that's what Glenn Beck was really looking for.
And that's why Glenn Beck was very much in the Ted Cruz camp.
Ted Cruz is definitely more of that movement conservative, came up during the Tea Party.
It made sense, right?
It totally made sense for Glenn Beck to be in the cruise camp.
And let me just say this: that in Glenn Beck's favor, right?
And not to take away from Melton National World, you did, but the cover in 2016 says against Trump, not Donald Trump.
Did you read the first line of the National Review piece?
It says to paraphrase Voltaire after he attended an orgy once.
Once was an experiment, twice would be perverse.
What the heck were you doing attending orgies, Voltaire?
I don't want to think of National Review writers doing something like that.
I'm sorry.
All right, hold on.
I'm just going to like, I'm going to, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to read some of these names.
I'm sorry.
Glenn Beck, David Boaz, Brent Brazil, Mona Charon, Ben Dominic, Dominic, Eric Erickson, of course, Stephen Hayward, Mark Helpern, Bill Crystal, of course, Yuval Levin, Dana Lash.
She's come a long way.
Yeah, I was surprised.
I didn't.
Andy McCarthy.
I was really surprised.
Yeah, David McIntosh, Michael Medved, Edwin Meese, Russell Moore, Michael Mucasey, Katie Pavlich, John Poteretz, R.R. Reno, Thomas Soule, and Cal Thomas.
I'm surprised about Thomas Sowell, too.
Thomas Sowell, that one hurts.
That one hurts a little bit.
I'm like, man, I love Thomas Sowell.
Thomas Soule Redemption art.
He just didn't see it.
If Abe Hamaday wins by 10 votes.
That's amazing.
Kill The Drug Dealers Rhetoric 00:04:28
Let's get this done.
10 votes, Abe Homeday.
Then, when everybody comes to AmericaFest at Amfest.com promo code Arizona, 50% off, that you will be able to say that you are in a state that is soon to be, soon to be presided over from a chief law enforcement officer of the Republican Party named Abe Hamaday.
Who is an honorable veteran of the armed forces and just an all-around great patriot.
All right, guys, I want to shift the attention here.
I want to go back to Trump's speech.
I want to play cut 332, and I want to get your guys' reaction because there's a lot of positive chatter on this.
But I can imagine this is one of those lines.
It's just going to make the liberal brain explode.
332.
But we're going to be asking everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive the death penalty for their heinous acts because it's the only way we don't need any more blue ribbon committees.
We don't need, I don't like to say this, and I don't even know if the American public is ready for it.
And a lot of my people say, please don't say that, sir.
That's not nice.
They kill 500 people each on average.
Now, this is actually nothing new.
He's been saying this at a lot of rallies.
My favorite thing that's going to trigger the liberals, you know what's going to triple the liberals the most out of that whole thing?
The fact he's attacking blue ribbon committees.
Because every single high society person in Aspen is on some weird do-nothing committee.
What do you mean?
I'm on the committee against mental health exploitation.
Yeah, okay.
What have you done?
And it's like Trump is basically going.
This is why we love Trump.
He's just going against the bureaucracy and being like, look, I've been around for 40 years and all you stupid rich people have nothing but these committees where you guys get drunk on champagne on a Saturday afternoon and nothing gets done.
He's like, I'm going to go in and we're going to start killing drug dealers.
It's like, it's so, it's so to the essence of it.
That's why they're going to hate it.
That's basically, you know, you mentioned Aspen.
That's basically the, that's brought up in the movie in the great American cinema classic Dumb and Dumber, where Harry and Lloyd, right, when they go to meet, I think, the girl for the first time, where they go to meet Mary for the first time, and they're basically at one of those blue ribbon fundraisers for, you know, save the owls, and then they kill the owl.
And so you're 100% right.
That's exactly that.
I think what's interesting about killing the drug dealer.
So what's funny about that is obviously that's not something that is even a federal, right?
So drug dealing, that's generally at the state level, unless you're trafficking overseas or over state lines.
That's not usually something.
But I think what he's getting at there, though, is he's in a very similar way to build the wall in 2016, kill the drug dealers, actually kind of, it kind of fits that same type of political resonance of an image.
And the great image of 2016 was Trump building the wall.
One of the images, I'm not going to say the great image, but the image, the brutal image, that you can't not picture that, right?
The execution of a drug dealer.
You can't think of that.
And for some reason, in my mind, I'm already thinking firing squad, even though I don't think any states still do that.
But in my mind, you can just kind of see it, right?
You could just kind of see a drug dealer and Trump being there and sentencing it.
And so he's, you notice he's already using this same type of imagery.
And instead of saying, you know, it's one thing for Republicans to get up there and your typical politician will say, I'm going to be tough on crime.
I'm going to be for law and order.
And Trump certainly did that plenty of times as well.
I'm not going to say he didn't.
But for him to get up there and say, we need to start killing drug dealers, that just changes the entire thing.
It's one of those proposals that just kind of sucks all the air out of the room and makes everyone start debating, well, should we kill the drug dealers?
Maybe we shouldn't kill the drug dealers.
Maybe we should just maim the drug dealers.
What if we just cripple them?
Is that an option?
You know, or what if we Kyle Rittenhouse them in the arm, something like that?
You know, it's, it's, again, like, he's just in your head.
Jack, what you're talking about is moving the Overton window.
It's probably going to be my next book, is window movers.
That's, that's what Trump has the ability to do.
I will never forget, and I will never stop being appreciative of Trump.
If Trump goes off the rails and just starts attacking DeSantis and Junkin, he's going to turn me up.
Ballot Curing Instructions 00:06:52
I'm going to be really honest with the audience.
I don't like it.
But what I will always, always be grateful for, I will never forget in 2014, 2015, I thought the country had completely lost the plot with immigration.
I'm more conservative than probably either of you when it comes to immigration.
I think we've had a big meal.
All right.
All right.
We've had a big meal.
We've had a big meal.
We need time to digest it.
I'm talking about cultural cohesion.
I'm talking about our schools.
Yeah.
Jack.
Oh, hey, we have Tyler Boyer joining right now.
But by the way, let me just finish this point before we bring Tyler.
Let me finish this point.
He brings down, I mean, how are us radio hosts supposed to make jobs with all these foreigners here?
Yeah, hold on.
Let me finish this point because Tyler's audio is still joining.
I will never, ever stop being grateful for Trump to reset the narrative on immigration.
Tyler Boyer is now joining the conference.
Yeah, I'm outside Mar-a-Lago right now.
Hey, guys.
This is like Blair Witch.
Blair Witch Boyer.
Tyler.
I'm with a bunch of other members of the RNC, the best ones.
Hey, who are you talking to?
We're live on the Surly Kirk Show.
Oh, Tariq Kirk!
Damn!
So, Tyler, Tyler, you have it was a, it was, it was a, it was a great and passionate speech by the president.
So, Tyler, tell us about Abe Hamadai.
This is a call to action.
We got lots of viewers right now.
Walk us through it.
Abe Hamadai is within probably 100 votes of winning this thing.
So, every single cured ballot is going to change the outcome of what Arizona looks like.
If we have Chris Mays get in there, we have an absolute radical feminist FIM Nazi environmentalist on Katie Hobbs 9.
If we wait, Tyler, honest question.
Chris is a man.
No.
Okay, see, look at this one.
I didn't even pay attention.
She allegedly was a Republican.
She was a McCain Republican who converted over to the Democrat Party in order to, and she used to work for the Arizona Republic.
She was just an absolute disaster of a human being.
And Abe Homeday could win this thing by one vote.
That's where we're at with ballot curing.
So everybody has to follow our instructions on ballot curing.
Every single person you know, you have to check your ballot status.
You have to get out.
And what you got to do right now is make sure every family member and friend that you have has checked their ballot status as well.
Because if it says it needs to be cured, they have to go cure it tomorrow by 5 p.m.
That's the instruction, folks.
5 p.m., cure your ballot, carrylake.com slash slash cure.
All the links.
So where are those red lights?
Are you getting arrested?
What's going on?
No, I'm right outside.
I'm in the car pickup at Mar-a-Lago.
So behind me, you can see Mar-a-Lago.
So we were just with the president and his announced speech for 2024.
It was wonderful.
Had some really great, great lines.
I know, I think you guys kicked live to it, right?
Yes, we did.
So we were in there.
I had no self-service, but it was wonderful.
And we had a lot of great patriots here, but everybody's talking about Carrie and Abe.
And, you know, this is the defense mechanism that we have is getting Abe Homeday through.
Because if we get Abe through, we thwart everything that Katie Hobbs can do.
And on top of that, guys, too, we actually will be able to investigate and find out what the heck went wrong with this election for real.
We're never going to do that if Chris Mays does.
That's exactly right.
That's a great point.
That's a great point.
Tyler, for example, I brought up the point, and maybe you can reinforce it, that what Florida is doing is they're going after ballot harvesters.
They're going after election fraudsters.
If Abe gets in, even with Katie in the governor's mansion, we can do that in Arizona.
Am I right?
Yeah, so I mean, look, it's going to be a lot tougher.
But like, imagine this: if Abe Homeday is in there and we're talking about recalling because we find out all the things that actually went wrong with this election, and all of a sudden, you might have actually some movement between the legislature and the governor.
Now, I'm not convinced that this election, you know, we didn't outrightly win with Carrie Lake because we had thousands and thousands of voters turned away at the polls.
And those affidavits are being collected right now.
And this is going to create a serious problem because, you know, Abe Homeday is going to be in automatic recount territory.
Automatic recount territory means, you know, there's going to be every introspection into every vote you could possibly think of.
If we come up with a bunch more stuff here, you know, that's going to create a lot of uncertainty amongst the voters about this election between Carrie Lake and Katie Hobbs.
And again, if Abe gets elected, which is what we need, and he investigates all this, you know, it's not out of the realm to think that the voters are going to demand a new election, whether a new election that a judge says that we have, which may or may not happen, but a recall election can certainly happen.
I think it's six statutory six months after she takes office.
So, Tyler, our audience, I'm looking at the chat.
They are asking, what does ballot curing mean?
I know we've been over it before.
We've talked about it, but a lot of people are coming in for the first time.
Explain what ballot curing is.
Ballot curing is fixing your ballot.
So if you had an issue that it went in, it went in and you had an issue with your ballot, you got to fix it in order for your vote to count.
So there are thousands and thousands of ballots right now that votes aren't counting.
The votes just aren't counting.
And that's because their ballots are not secure.
They're not fixed.
So what you got to do is you got to go to carrylake.com slash cure and all the instructions for every county are on there.
Maricopa County actually has a curing process by text message.
I'll actually tweet out that that text link again so that everybody can see it because this could come down to one, two, three, five votes.
Ivanka Trump Arizona Post 00:03:54
Yes.
There's Sebastian.
This is insane.
So Tyler, what are the model show absent curing this thing is going to be?
There's still ballots in Pinal and Cochise.
So Republicans are out curing Democrats for the first time ever in history.
Because of this show and other shows like it, because we're getting the message out.
We're getting the message out.
The Arizona Republican Party is doing a great job.
Carrie's team is doing a great job.
Abe's team is doing a great job.
Mark Fincham has been part of it.
I mean, literally, this is the teamwork that we saw all throughout the campaign.
And this is what's going to save Arizona in this last few moments.
But Tyler, absent.
And I apologize.
I jumped in the car.
So I got to go.
I'll see you here tomorrow night.
Okay.
Great.
We'll see.
I'll be there tomorrow night, guys.
Jack, you still there?
Yeah.
I'm just seeing this a post by Ivanka Trump on Instagram.
Have you guys seen this?
I'm looking at it right now.
And so essentially it says, she is saying, I love my father very, I'm just going to read it.
I love my father very much.
This time around, I am choosing to prioritize my young children and the private life we are creating as a family.
I do not plan to be involved in politics.
While I will always love and support my father, doing so going forward, I will do so outside the political arena.
I am grateful to have had the honor of serving the American people, and I will always be proud of our administration's accomplishments.
Okay.
Well, she is balancing, but greatly saying that, Ivanka, she was always awesome to me.
Same with Jared.
Yeah, no, and honestly, I mean, you look at that family, those kids she has, they're amazing.
She's a great mom.
I don't know if people realize that, that how much she, how active, I think, I think people have this vision of, you know, Ivanka as sort of like, you know, she's, you know, up in the tower and she's got all these servants and courtiers and maids and security to run.
No, she does all that stuff by herself.
She does all of that stuff by herself.
She's actually a great mom.
She really is.
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And it looks like we're going to be back here tomorrow, Jack and Andrew, because we got more ballots to look at with Abe Homeday, which is the future of Arizona and the future of the republic.
We get Abe in, we will have a vessel to be able to fix this mess.
Charlie says all the people say all hope is lost.
You're wrong.
Abe Homeday is within like a couple hundred votes, like a couple dozen votes.
Let's get it done.
We need to cure our ballots.
It's carrylake.com slash cure.
That's carrielake.com slash cure.
And every single ballot matters.
And I, man, if Abe wins this thing, we will have real, tangible deliverable from this Arizona election to make sure it never happens again.
Period.
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