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Rebuilding Political Machinery
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| Hey, everybody. | |
| Darren Beattie joins us from Revolver.news to talk about the aftermath of the midterm election and then the case for banning TikTok with Brendan Carr and how that impacted the midterms. | |
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| A lot to get to here. | |
| We have producer Andrew on the line and also Darren Beattie from the wonderful Revolver.news, Revolver.news. | |
| Darren, welcome back to the program. | |
| Darren, you wrote a piece back in 2020 talking about how we could stop this manipulation, ballot capturing operation of the Democrats. | |
| I wish more people would have listened to you. | |
| Now here we are post-midterms, barely getting the House, not having the Senate, and with some of our superstars, after many days of counting and suspicious ballot dumps, look like are not going to be in office absent some aggressive lawsuits. | |
| Darren, what is your analysis and how should we proceed? | |
| Well, it's a very troubling situation. | |
| And the bottom line is really a lack of the basic kind of voting infrastructure that the Democrats have built over a long period of time, but really, really capitalized on the sort of COVID environment and post-COVID environment so as to really enhance the robustness of their machinery that's capable of exploiting the mail-in system. | |
| And the bottom line is getting out really low-information, low-interest, low-energy votes. | |
| And that's how they win. | |
| And it's a tremendous structural advantage. | |
| And it was clear that that would be the case, irrespective of the question of downright kind of fraudulent activity. | |
| This is just how the game is structured now. | |
| And so I think it's like there's an interesting distinction between rigged and stolen. | |
| And I think we need to think more about the rigged, how things are set up, how the Democrat machine exploits the mail-in system to its profound structural advantage. | |
| And they do so, and they don't even need good candidates. | |
| I mean, we're talking about candidate equality, and the Democrats are winning with people like John Fetterman, which is probably one of the ultimate flexes in American political history that you can win with John Fetterman. | |
| I mean, it seems like they should be embarrassed, but when you really think about it, we're the ones should be embarrassed by that. | |
| Yes. | |
| And so, just by the way, some breaking news. | |
| There's been a new ballot drop in Pinal. | |
| Abe Homeday now trails by 2,269 votes, which would be incredibly important if we can get Abe Hamaday in more ways than one. | |
| So sorry, Darren, I want to continue with this, though. | |
| But Darren, is it time in states where it is legal for Republicans to embrace ballot harvesting? | |
| Well, I think it's time for Republicans to learn how to learn how to navigate it. | |
| I mean, I would say it would be better to just eliminate it entirely. | |
| If that's not an option, then the GOP needs to learn how to game it and to think about what is going to be more kind of politically realistic. | |
| Is it politically realistic to go back to, you know, part of the piece? that you mentioned, the revolver piece that we ran shortly after the 2020 election, you know, Democrats weren't always these big pro-mail-in ballot people. | |
| In fact, Jimmy Carter ran a commission and a whole study that basically said how dangerous a mass mail-in voting system would actually be. | |
| And frankly, I'd recommend people go and look at that Jimmy Carter study, but we need to deal in the realm of what's politically feasible. | |
| And if it turns out that it's simply a non-starter to get rid of mass mail-in, which it might be, then we need to learn how to play the game as it exists today. | |
| Yeah, Andrew, what is your take on that? | |
| Yeah, I mean, I said this yesterday and I still hold to it. | |
| It's like, I'm a big baseball fan. | |
| I hate the designated hitter in the National League. | |
| I just hate it. | |
| But guess what? | |
| It doesn't mean I'm going to throw my pitcher up to bat, you know, just to be a purist. | |
| No, I'm going to put the best hitter I have, you know, at the plate to score the most runs. | |
| And I think, you know, to this point, it's like, you know, you tweeted about this this morning, Darren. | |
| I saw it. | |
| You're saying like, you know, listen, Republicans used to have the advantage because we were able to drive engaged voters on election day. | |
| Republicans always had that advantage. | |
| We're more engaged. | |
| We care more. | |
| But the Democrats have the advantage on low agency, low information voters. | |
| That's why the mass universal no excuse mail-in ballots has been such a thing. | |
| These drop boxes have been such a thing that they're pushing. | |
| But to your point, if we do not have the political power to overturn these abuses of our democracy, and I would call it that, then we just have to start investing money, resources, manpower, ground game. | |
| And this has to come straight from the top of the Republican Party, in my opinion, into equalizing the playing field. | |
| Because to your point, I think our messaging is better. | |
| I think our ideas work better. | |
| I think they're common sense, but we're just not doing that right now. | |
| I don't know what it's going to take at the highest level of the RNC to start pushing some of these reforms. | |
| But to me, it seems as clear as day this needs to happen. | |
| Right. | |
| And just if I could interject and add something to that, I think as far as I'm aware, like I really want to look into it more deeply because I'm not quite ready to concede that it's a non-starter in every state that, you know, to that we can't severely diminish, if not eliminate the practice of mail-in. | |
| I think it's worth like really looking into what that would require realistically, what kind of resources, what the expected benefit that would be versus, and it's not just an easy thing to reconstruct a kind of machinery that can turn out really low interest voters. | |
| And in fact, you know, an interesting way to think about it, you could say that the GOP version of that, at least after the Trump phenomenon, Trump was the machine that turned out low interest voters. | |
| That was the forgotten man. | |
| Those were the people that never went out. | |
| And so what the Democrats achieved through a very efficient, well-oiled sort of almost mechanistic machinery of just like literally bussing in like people, it's almost an automated system of bringing in. | |
| Trump achieved this, I think, in a much more noble way and inspiring way by actually re-engaging lowest interest people in the political process. | |
| Now, as people are want to say in the technical world, Trump is a unique political phenomenon. | |
| Trump is not necessarily scalable into the indefinite political future. | |
| And so I do think we need to start thinking about what type of machinery we need. | |
| Otherwise, it's like we don't have a chance unless we're running like once in a generation political talent. | |
| And even there in 2020, it didn't work out for us. | |
| So it's definitely something to look at. | |
| But I think the mail-in will always have a kind of disadvantage to the Republican side. | |
| And I think it's worth spelling out. | |
| Stephen Miller actually had an insightful tweet on this that I kind of added to. | |
| And he was saying, when it's a competition among who can best turn out the lowest interest voters, lowest engagement voters, that really changes the nature of what democracy is. | |
| And as students of history know, the original understanding of how voting worked in America was not just anyone could vote. | |
| You had to have property, you had to be a man and all these kinds of things. | |
| And a lot of these criteria are probably not appropriate for today. | |
| But I think the basic idea that one had to have some sort of investment in the system to vote, that you needed some kind of skin in the game, the last vestige of this was the system that at least gave a sort of structural advantage to people who cared. | |
| And even that now is undermined by the practice of mass mailing and voting. | |
| So it actually substantively changes the nature of what our democracy is. | |
| So we're at a place right now where the Democrats accuse you of voter disenfranchisement of suppression just because you're worried that mass mail and ballots in every direction that could be captured by Alinskyite community organizers. | |
| Yeah, the last kind, like you said, the last vestige of trying to have someone who's voting to care would be, I don't know, election day, getting in your car, going somewhere. | |
| Democrats hacked that system. | |
| They knew what they were doing. | |
| Darren, Donald Trump is probably going to announce for the presidency tonight. | |
| How should we think about this? | |
| Well, I want to stand by and see what the announcement is. | |
| But assuming that he does announce, which in all probability he will, but you never know because, you know, you just never know with Trump. | |
| He can always surprise you. | |
| But I think it's an encouraging thing. | |
| He's the, you know, he's the head of the Republican Party. | |
| He's the head of the movement. | |
| And I think it's a good idea for him to announce. | |
| And I think he needs to make the best use of it. | |
| You know, people need hope right now. | |
| And, you know, Trump, when he's bringing it, when he's running on all cylinders, is a formidable and unique political force. | |
| And so we just need to hope the better angels are guiding him and that we see some of that magic that so many of us became addicted to from the 2015-2016 campaign. | |
| Yeah, the feedback I'm receiving from a lot of people, and I think we're going to be streaming tonight his speech and also kind of our reaction to it tonight. | |
| The reaction I'm getting from a lot of people is that they kind of want to see a little bit of that spark that they kind of grew fond of in 15, 16, and 17, and even parts of his presidency as well. | |
| I'm receiving a lot of negative incoming of his communications towards DeSantis and Junckin. | |
| Andrew, what is your take on that? | |
| I think Darren's point about Trump being a unique political animal in the sense that he can turn out those voters that we just haven't seen any other Republican be able to turn out, especially at the national level. | |
| But yeah, I'm hearing the same notes. | |
| People are frustrated with some of the attacks on Yunkin and DeSantis. | |
| I think DeSantis has now officially responded to those. | |
| He's been asked about them in the press conference. | |
| I'm not sure if we have that clip yet. | |
| But, you know, I think we have to hope, to your point, that the better angels come out and that he channels his unique gifts in a way that really uplifts the party and gets people out to vote. | |
| I mean, at this point, I still think it's a hard row to hope for anybody to beat him in a primary, but, you know, we're still early days here, you know. | |
| So we're going to be watching really intently and seeing kind of his message. | |
| And if he's forward-looking, I think that's a really interesting first step. | |
| Yeah, Trump at his best is vision casting and is really painting a picture that gets people inspiring, getting people inspired. | |
| Darren, also, you're keeping your eyes on the Twitter saga. | |
| Where does that now kind of rest? | |
| Are we seeing Twitter kind of get liberated from its previous tyrannical behavior now that Elon's in charge? | |
| Well, I see mostly positive signs. | |
| I mean, ultimately, the story is yet to be written. | |
| There are some major personnel decisions that are yet to be made. | |
| But I think so far, Elon is absolutely right to, as I call it, take out the trash. | |
| He's firing a lot of the trash. | |
| A lot of the people responsible for content moderation who just added unnecessary friction to the kind of conversational space on the global public square. | |
| And many people have joined Twitter, and that has resulted in skyrocketing engagement and dynamism on the platform. | |
| And so that's a positive thing. | |
| But, you know, it's still in cautiously optimistic mode because I think we'll need to see how he ultimately resolves the content moderation problem. | |
| Now people are seeing a spike in engagement, but that's largely a result of firing the people who would have been censoring things and also just an influx of a massive amount of users. | |
| But it doesn't speak to the sort of underlying and enduring content moderation policy that I think is still under active consideration. | |
| And that will be contingent on some, I think, key personnel decisions over the next couple months. | |
| It's well said. | |
| Darren Beattie, Revolver.news. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Look, in the good old days, we Americans argued about which policies to pursue to improve this beautiful country. | |
| Charlie Kirk here. | |
| Too often, we find ourselves arguing about whether or not America is great or not, or whether we should be ashamed or whether we should love America. | |
| The reason for this is simple. | |
| For too many years, too many of our schools have been neglecting to teach young people about our great heritage of liberty, presenting them instead a dishonest narrative of America as a fundamentally unjust or racist country. | |
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TikTok Data Flow Concerns
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| Right now, we have Brendan Carr joining us from the FCC. | |
| And to talk about TikTok, I cannot put into words the damage that TikTok has done to our country. | |
| I really wish one of the things Trump would have done is just completely and totally ban it from our country altogether. | |
| It is a Chinese Communist Party mind virus infiltration. | |
| It has very little to any redeemable value. | |
| It's also promoting some of the most radical transgender ideas, liberal ideas. | |
| And by the way, anytime a conservative such as myself or other people try to start a TikTok, we just get kicked off. | |
| So there's not even a matter of allowing us on the platform. | |
| So Brendan Carr's with us now. | |
| Brendan, how are you doing? | |
| I'm doing great. | |
| Good to see you. | |
| Brendan, make the case. | |
| Why is TikTok such a threat to our society and what should we do about it? | |
| You know, a lot of people look at TikTok. | |
| It's immensely popular. | |
| They think, well, it's just a fun platform for sharing memes or dance videos. | |
| That's just the sheep's clothing. | |
| Underneath, it operates as a very sophisticated surveillance tool. | |
| It's pulling everything from search and browsing history, keystroke patterns. | |
| It reserves the right to get your biometrics, including face prints and voice prints. | |
| Up to now, TikTok officials have said, don't worry, this is all stored outside of China. | |
| And then a couple of months ago, there was a bombshell report that got a hold of internal TikTok communications that said, quote, everything is seen back in China. | |
| There's two core issues here. | |
| One is all that data flowing back into China, which they can use for espionage purposes. | |
| But the other part of it, I think you alluded to, is the content that's coming back to us from these algorithms that are designed and built in Beijing. | |
| And if you look at the version of TikTok called Doyan, a separate app that operates inside China, it feeds children there science experiments, museum exhibits, educational materials. | |
| Here in the U.S., what does it feed our children? | |
| The Blackout Challenge, which encourages kids to suffocate themselves. | |
| And there was just a court case that a court said, even assuming that TikTok intentionally fed to a 10-year-old girl a blackout challenge who did it and then died, they're not liable for it. | |
| So this is a very disturbing application that's a problem from a national security perspective, but also a mental health perspective for America's youth. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So there's so many dimensions to this. | |
| Let's start with the data. | |
| What data in particular are they sending back to China? | |
| Does that just include user data of their behavior in the app? | |
| Because some people say that actually TikTok is able to monitor behavior outside of their application. | |
| Is that correct? | |
| Yeah, that's right. | |
| You know, we've seen evidence of it getting data on clipboards, on different devices. | |
| And again, the inside materials from TikTok's own officials are that it's getting sent back to Beijing. | |
| And so that's a deep problem. | |
| And what's the problem with that, among other things, is we're locked in a battle right now with Beijing when it comes to artificial intelligence or AI. | |
| They want to dominate there and they want to use it for authoritarian purposes. | |
| And what we're doing when we're sending our data back to Beijing is we're feeding, training, and improving China's AI. | |
| And that's a threat for us, again, outside of TikTok itself that we're going to come to regret if we don't cut that off soon. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And so, you know, our show is a conservative program. | |
| And Brendan, I know that you have to, you know, have your position at the FCC, but I think that this is something you can comment on more broadly. | |
| Do you think it's fair to say that the values on TikTok definitely benefit Democrats or left-wing causes, that the ideological composition of TikTok is not exactly fertile ground for conservatives? | |
| It's possible. | |
| You know, there's some reporting out there that says one of the reasons why the Biden administration is potentially hesitating on taking tougher action on TikTok as there's at least some people counseling them that it's a good means for reaching out and motivating their base. | |
| I don't know if that's true or not, but there's the argument that's out there. | |
| But the reality is the concern here is bipartisan. | |
| You've got a Democrat Senator Mark Warner, chairman of the Senate Intel Committee, who has said, and this is a guy that gets daily intelligence briefings that would probably result in you and me having to change our shorts afterwards in terms of the seriousness of the threat. | |
| And he has said that it is TikTok that, in his words, scares the dickens out of him. | |
| Democrat Rep Schakowsky in the House has written to Apple and Google raising concerns about TikTok. | |
| So I think the tide is moving out on TikTok. | |
| There is conservative concern, but there's bipartisan concern. | |
| And right now, where things are is the Biden administration's Treasury Department has an operation called Syphius, which is a committee on foreign investment. | |
| Right now, they are reviewing TikTok. | |
| And there was a report at the New York Times that they've reached a preliminary deal with TikTok to allow them to continue to operate. | |
| But that same story also said that the number two at DOJ, Lisa Monaco, doesn't believe that the deal is tough enough on China. | |
| So I'm hopeful that we are seeing bipartisan consensus here, which is going to be required to get some concrete action. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So can it be done just through the executive branch, just a stroke of the pen to completely ban an app that 100 million Americans are using? | |
| It can. | |
| This is what the Treasury Department's CPIS process is designed to do. | |
| And frankly, I think this is a basic IQ test for the Biden administration to show that they are standing up to China. | |
| The argument that the DOJ can cut a deal comes down to this. | |
| It's this thing called Project Texas. | |
| And the idea there is that they are going to basically shift a lot of this to Oracle servers here in the U.S. | |
| But there's several problems with that. | |
| One, there was, again, leaked material that had a TikTok official in LA meet with another TikTok official outside of business hours, outside the office, ask detailed questions about the location of those Oracle servers and other details that strike me as casing those Oracle servers. | |
| That's disturbing. | |
| Another leaked material coming out of TikTok's DC office had them describing that Project Texas move and saying, at the end of the day, it remains to be seen if Beijing can still get access to it because these are their tools. | |
| They built them in China. | |
| So this idea that we're simply going to move this to Oracle and that's going to solve the problems, TikTok doesn't seem to think that that's the case. | |
| And I think that we should believe TikTok on that. | |
| Tristan Harris was on 60 Minutes and said something rather profound, PlayCut 315. | |
| In their version of TikTok, if you're under 14 years old, they show you science experiments you can do at home, museum exhibits, patriotism videos, and educational videos. | |
| And they also limit it to only 40 minutes per day. | |
| Now, they don't ship that version of TikTok to the rest of the world. | |
| So it's almost like they recognize that technology is influencing kids' development, and they make their domestic version a spinach version of TikTok, while they've shipped the opium version to the rest of the world. | |
| Is that a fair way to say, is this the new opium wars, Brendan? | |
| Yeah, I mean, what I've said is TikTok is China's digital fentanyl. | |
| And when you look at the very different picture that they are sending to their own youth and the picture that they're sending to ours, I think it's not, it doesn't take much of a leap to see that just even the divisiveness that they insert into this country, let alone the unhealthy viewing habits. | |
| Again, like I said, the blackout challenge that they're feeding to kids that have literally resulted in young U.S. girls killing themselves based on the content that's being fed to them from TikTok. | |
| And the threats go beyond that. | |
| There was another recent report that had a Beijing-based group for TikTok's parent company attempting to surveil the locations of specific Americans not employed by TikTok through this app. | |
| And so it's like we're in a situation now where almost every week another shoe drops. | |
| I feel like we've had 17 or 18 shoes and the evidence just keeps mounting. | |
| That's why I said I just do not see a path forward for the Biden administration to somehow bless TikTok to continue to operate here. | |
| Yeah, I mean, and so for parents that are a little skeptical out there and they say, oh, my kid likes TikTok. | |
| It's innocent. | |
| It's fun. | |
| It actually does result in the actual creation of ticks for young girls. | |
| Is that right? | |
| There's been all sorts of evidence pointing to different mental health, behavioral health, body image harms that come from TikTok. | |
| And look, if people are really into these short-form videos, there's lots of ways to do that that isn't on TikTok. | |
| There are competing platforms out there. | |
| So I'm not going to tell people not to upload videos. | |
| But when the parent company is deeply embedded in the CCP, it's concerning. | |
| In fact, when they testified recently in Congress, they were asked, do you send this data to the Chinese government? | |
| They said no. | |
| Okay, it's a good answer. | |
| They said, do you send this data to, I think this was Senator Hawley actually asking the questions, do you send this data to the CCP? | |
| They said no. | |
| And then the last question was, do you send this to employees back in Beijing that are themselves members of the CCP? | |
| And TikTok said that they would defer on answering that specific question. | |
| So that's basically, in my view, a yes. | |
| You know, they're allowing Beijing-based employees to view U.S. user data who are themselves members of the CCP. | |
| And once that happens, there's no limit on who can access the data. | |
| So this is deeply disturbing on a lot of levels. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So then let's just play the odds. | |
| What do you think the probability of some sort of concrete or constructive action is here? | |
| Or do you think it's going to be maybe kind of split in the middle? | |
| You know, I think the window for action people have been predicting was post-election before the next Congress gets seated. | |
| So I think we are within sort of a three to four week period here now where we can expect final action from the Biden administration. | |
| I'm not hopeful that they are going to do the right thing. | |
| I think they're going to attempt to try to restrict the data flow to China to try to monitor it. | |
| And they're going to think that that's going to be enough and try to sell that to the American people as tough. | |
| But look, this is just a matter of trust. | |
| I just do not trust the officials at TikTok. | |
| Again, based on the fact that it appears they're already trying to case these Oracle servers. | |
| So again, I think we need to be tough here and take a harder action. | |
| I do think it's a matter of time, whether it's this coming weeks or maybe a year or so down the road. | |
| But I'm not sure we're going to land it in the right place in these next few weeks. | |
| Well, I hope that something changes. | |
| Brendan, thank you for joining us. | |
| Great commentary as always. | |
| Really appreciate it. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Thanks, Charlotte. | |
| Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here. | |
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Bankman Freed Crypto Scandal
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| It is small potatoes compared to Bernie Madoff, FTX. | |
| And it has a very interesting overlap politically. | |
| Okay, so FTX, and I only understand this at a surface level, but enough to be able to walk you guys through it. | |
| FTX was one of the largest cryptocurrency exchanges in the world. | |
| It was founded by Sam Bankman Freed, a 20-something son of two Stanford law professors. | |
| One was a major Democrat fundraiser and activist. | |
| other was a top expert on what? | |
| Tax evasion and tax shelters. | |
| I'll get to that in a second. | |
| Now, when crypto really became a big thing two years ago, FTX became extremely prominent and Mr. Becker Fried, which I will refer to as SBF, became extraordinarily rich with his estimated wealth peaking around $26 billion. | |
| Until last week, his wealth was estimated around $16 billion. | |
| Now, I remember seeing an article about this guy, Sam Becker Friedman, Freed, I'm sorry, Sam Becker Freed, about how he's this major Democrat donor and how he wants to use his money and his resources to reshape America. | |
| And I just, I didn't really think much of it. | |
| I kind of shrugged my shoulders. | |
| I'm like, okay, just another loser that wants to see, you know, kids get medically mutilated and our border wide open. | |
| And so I just kind of shrugged it off. | |
| I said, all right, whatever. | |
| And, but without, so basically, crypto continued to grow and he got to be worth $26 billion. | |
| So without getting too much into the details, because it's very, very, very deep. | |
| This guy, San Bankman Freed, I want to make sure I get this right, which will be referred to as SBF, just as an acronym. | |
| Last week it was revealed that he had used FTX to prop up a quant finance firm that he founded called Alameda Research. | |
| This caused a crypto equivalent of a bank run, which quickly revealed that FTX had a $10 billion hole in its balance sheet. | |
| People with money on FTX basically lost everything. | |
| And it's highly likely that criminal behavior was committed. | |
| It's almost guaranteed. | |
| Now, a crypto adjacent expert that we know on this program put it this way: quote, Sam Bankman Freed is basically Verbal Kint in the movie The Usual Suspects, talking about the, quote, Kaiser Soze. | |
| Remember the entire movie? | |
| It's who is Kaiser Soze at the end of it actually ends up being Kevin Spacey. | |
| Sorry, spoiler alert if you've never seen Usual Suspects, one of my favorite movies of all time, by the way. | |
| He went to Congress and lectured them about other financial institutions using customer funds to make risky bets while he was actually stealing customer funds to make him hugely dangerous bets himself. | |
| He went to Forbes in June and said other exchanges were secretly insolvent while he was actually secretly insolvent. | |
| The esteemed senator from New Jersey, Corey Booker, was gushing all over him in the committee room. | |
| Now, the reason this gets even more interesting if you're not into crypto is that Mr. Bankman Freed was a massive, massive, massive Democrat donor. | |
| Now, he spent more than $30 million on the midterms, and he said he would spend a billion dollars in 2024 if Trump ran. | |
| There's also this Ukraine connection as well that I'm trying to understand, but there's something with like Ukrainian aid and a connection there. | |
| I'll get into that in a second. | |
| Of course, now it appears that these donations may have been funded by stealing user funds on FTX. | |
| Now, another interesting thing is Mr. Bankman Freed was a promoter of effective altruism, the Silicon Valley adjacent meme ideology of sorts, which claims to promote rational forms of altruistic behavior. | |
| This is a big tent movement that allegedly takes many forms, but it basically means that you're justified in taking massive risks and huge risks and being extremely dishonest because it would let you maximize your wealth so you could give it away for altruistic causes. | |
| So here's another way to put it. | |
| SBF or Sam Bankman Freed is like that hypothetical paperclip making robot, hypothetical paperclip making robot that goes rogue and turns the world into a pay-per-click maping machine. | |
| He relentlessly optimized for one dimension at the expense of all else, maximizing his wealth so that he could give it away anyway. | |
| So look, that's very confusing in one way. | |
| Let me just put it this way. | |
| It was a total fraud. | |
| It was a fraud beyond anything that we could have imagined. | |
| That Bernie Madoff would just be gushing at. | |
| He'd say, Wow, that's I never did anything that bad. | |
| And it was a major financier. | |
| And by the way, he probably spent even more than $30 million on the midterms if you count some of the other dark money organizations that we may never know of are business investments. | |
| This is one of the biggest stories, and people are losing everything. | |
| Now, there is a connection between FTX and Ukraine that I'm not going to have time to kind of connect to. | |
| Some people say that Ukraine was an investor, but I do not think that they were an investor. | |
| I just think Ukraine got money via FTX, I believe. | |
| And SBF gave all this free money to Ukraine users after the invasion. | |
| So he was very good at exploiting news and stories like that. | |
| Thanks so much for listening, everybody. | |
| Email me as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. | |
| Thank you so much for listening. | |
| God bless. | |
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