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Feb. 15, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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O Canada! When a Democracy Becomes a Dictatorship
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Civilization Turning Dictatorship 00:04:55
Hey everybody, today the Charlie Kirk Show.
It's a pretty amazing moment when a civilization decides to go a different direction.
From a republic to a dictatorship or to a dictatorship to a democracy, whatever that might be.
And it's happening right now in Canada.
We dive into that and so much more.
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Something that has always confused historians, and something that almost every high school social studies student or college history student will learn is the transition from Rome, for Rome, from a republic to an empire.
This is something that people have studied in great detail, and the question is usually posed in an essay format, sometimes in an AP world history or sometimes in a just world history context.
Why did Rome go from a republic to an empire?
There are many reasons why that gets articulated.
Of course, the tension of the Roman Senate, the corruption there within, the inability to make decisions, and of course, the breaking up of the Roman triumphant.
Julius Caesar, who came from the Gaul region, crossed the Rubicon, declaring effectively Roman civil war.
Julius Caesar won, governed for a couple years, and of course was killed by his friends, best articulated in Shakespeare's play, Julius Caesar.
Beware the Ides of March.
The words still resonate with us to this day.
After Julius Caesar died, there was a question of what was Rome going to become.
Well, Caesar Augustus, Caesar's nephew and heir, a very ambitious man, he decided to consolidate support.
He allied with Mark Antony, of course, who was also a once friend of Julius Caesar, his uncle.
And he was victorious.
He also had an affair with Cleopatra, separate issue for a different time.
But then the Roman Senate decided to basically suspend its operation.
And in 31 BC, Caesar Augustus, who was then followed by Tiberius and many others, became Rome's first emperor.
And like that, the Republic was dead and the empire was born.
Now, this fascinates historians for a lot of different reasons.
Because the question that those of us in the West ask is, how could you turn your back on representative government and go towards a dictatorship?
How could you go from something that is enlightened to something that is more primal?
How could you go from something that is cultured to something that is more tribal?
How could you go from something that is more organized to something that is more chaotic or centralized?
This is a question that, if you have a good teacher, you wrestle with.
And then the conclusion is like, well, thankfully, we have moved past that.
Thankfully, in the year 2022, we no longer have to go through the kind of arc of going from a republic or a democracy, let's just use representative government as a filler to a dictatorship.
And so, but seldom, almost never, do you get to see a country in real time go from that type of representative government to an empire overnight?
We're actually used to the opposite.
We're used to the opposite of these fairy tales of southeastern Asian countries like Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia shedding the dictatorships and going to representative government.
Libya Lessons for Canada 00:04:32
We're used to the Arab Spring, where we're supposed to believe somehow that Libya is going to be Louisiana just because we got rid of Muammar Gaddafi.
We decided to drag him through the streets.
The narrative that is usually told in the West is that because of us and our superior values, we go from, we help liberate people from dictatorships into democracy or into a representative government.
But happening right now on our northern border, the opposite story is unfolding.
It is the Roman story.
In Canada, you have officially seen a country that was once a representative government to a dictatorship.
In the last 48 hours, Justin Trudeau has announced extraordinary war powers for 30 days, including the power to prohibit public assembly, travel, and use of specific property.
Justin Trudeau is now officially gone to war with his citizens.
Now, what's so interesting is that as we fought in Iraq and Afghanistan, Syria and Libya, as we tried to spread democracy across the entire planet, we did so for 20 years and spent $5 trillion and thousands of lives and hundreds of thousands of damaged lives to try to spread democracy.
We have now seen the very ideology that we were sworn to try to eradicate, the very menace we were trying to displace, come to our own border in Ottawa.
Justin Trudeau is mobilizing the shock troops all throughout Canada.
He has full rights to shut down bank accounts, arrest people on demand.
Justin Trudeau is emperor of Canada.
And if you go back into the writings of the once Roman Republic, this is exactly why Julius Caesar said he needed power.
Julius Caesar said there are uprisings all across Rome.
People are hungry.
They're upset.
It was the Roman equivalent of the trucker protests of the farmers that came to Rome and started to burn buildings.
The only difference is the trucker protests are far more peaceful in today's time.
Cut 38.
Trudeau says, we'll always defend the rights of Canadians to peacefully assemble and have freedom of expression, but these blockades are illegal.
Play Cut 38.
The federal government has invoked the Emergencies Act to supplement provincial and territorial capacity to address the blockades and occupations.
Cut 37.
The deputy prime minister and minister of finance says, we are just going to stop the money flow.
Now, thankfully, she doesn't even know how to do this.
Good luck regulating cryptocurrency.
Only way you could regulate cryptocurrency this way, based on every expert I know in the crypto world, is to literally shut down the power, which I don't think is out of the realm of possibility because these truckers really have Trudeau on the ropes.
Play Cut 37.
First, we are broadening the scope of Canada's anti-money laundering and terrorist financing rules so that they cover crowdfunding platforms and the payment service providers they use.
These changes cover all forms of transactions, including digital assets such as cryptocurrencies.
The illegal blockades have highlighted the fact that crowdfunding platforms and some of the payment service providers they use are not fully captured under the Proceeds of Crime and Terrorist Financing Act.
So you might hate the truckers, you might not like what they stand for, but there's something much broader at play here.
It's not even about vaccines, okay?
It's not even about free speech.
It's about the death of a system of government that is right next to America.
So we go and invade Iraq because we don't like Saddam Hussein's form of government.
We go and occupy Afghanistan for 20 years because we don't like the fact that there are goat herding child molesters in the hills of the Kandahar Valley that don't allow eight-year-olds, eight-year-old girls to read.
We go and try to have a proxy war against Bashar al-Assad, almost stumbling into a war with Russia because we don't like his form of government.
Death of a System 00:03:06
Hillary Clinton gets like super excited.
She gets like a real high level of pleasure to like displace Muammar Gaddafi and turning Libya into a civil war.
But what does our ruling class do when the phantom or the ghost or the spirit of Muamm Qaddafi comes to Ottawa?
We're going to seize your crypto assets because we don't like your politics?
Yeah, that's just the way it is.
You are seeing a historical event of a civilizational model of a representative government become an empire.
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You know, usually when governments change their form or their structure, it's network news.
Remember, like the fall of Saigon with the helicopter imagery or the Iranian revolution or when Saddam Hussein's statue was drug through the streets or even in Afghanistan when the Taliban took over Kabul again.
Typically when governments decide to transition from one philosophy to the other, again, either from primal to enlightened or enlightened to primal or from culture to tribal or from chaos to organized or from separate parts to centralized, that's usually a really big deal.
Usually, network news say, wow, they're deciding to go a different direction.
This is worth communicating to the general population.
That sort of change is usually really compelling.
It sells newspapers.
It rates really well.
So when Canada decides to be a completely different form of government, why is the entire Western media silent?
Well, that answer is easy.
Because if the media actually did a full court press on Canada deciding consciously to metamorphosize its entire governmental structure, it would be really unpopular.
People in Manhattan would say, oh, you know, I was all for this kind of COVID mandate thing, but I'm not really sure if I'm okay with Canada becoming Cuba.
Seizing Crypto Assets 00:14:46
So let's go a level deeper here when it comes to the philosophy of what's happening in Canada.
And I think one really important piece of tape to kind of set up this argument is Cut 36.
When Justin Trudeau said in an interview that he admired China's basic dictatorship, play Cut 36.
There's a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say we need to go green as fast as we need to start investing in solar.
I mean, there is a flexibility that I know Stephen Harper must dream about of having a dictatorship that he could do everything he wanted that I find quite interesting.
Now, everyone kind of jokes.
I think Stephen Harper was the opposition party candidate, if I'm not mistaken, that's right.
Yeah.
But this is a sentiment that is widely held amongst Western liberals.
Now, before he decided to just lose his mind and become a really cantankerous person, one of the most important pieces of literature that articulates this is liberal fascism.
Jonah Goldberg, I give him credit every time I mention it because it was one of the most important political books written over the last 40 years.
And I think he misunderstands, obviously, Trump.
I'm not getting into Jonah Goldberg.
It's not worth it.
But the book is really good.
Now, if you want to know one of the key characteristics of fascism, it's very simple.
If you want to write it down, you're like, how do you spot a fascist?
Selective enforcement.
Selective enforcement.
So Trudeau, deep down, he has this inclination to try to liberate groups that have allegedly been oppressed.
He's all about liberating LGBT groups, all about liberating black groups, all about liberating indigenous groups.
But within the DNA of a Western liberal is a totalitarian waiting to get out.
Most liberals, not all, not like Dave Rubin, not Glenn Greenwald, those people deserve to be complimented, not Russell Brand, not Joe Rogan, who is whatever, but he's probably more classical liberal than not.
Outside of those people, but the card-carrying People that are aggressively liberal, the entire live and let live bumper sticker, the I'm not going to interfere with your life.
I'm going to do whatever we want to do, which Trudeau kind of ran on.
Trudeau kind of ran on a very Canadian, Woodstock-y, I'm not going to get in the way of you doing your business.
You know, we're all Canadians together.
But the warning that we have always put forward, we being constitutionalists and conservatives, is that we know that within these liberal advocacy groups, it quickly goes from, let's go and free the disadvantaged groups, which is obviously a bunch of nonsense, to let's go seek revenge against the people that we consider to be oppressors, like that.
And the issue is that the people that Trudeau has always been wanting to crush have decided to show up on his doorstep.
Is that the domestic war that Trudeau has dreamed of, he just said that in that clip?
I've always admired China, is that they preempted him.
Is that the truckers, they struck first.
They knew what was coming.
They went all in.
They knew that their livelihood and their traditions and their values, it was just a matter of time before they were crushed.
They forced Trudeau's hand.
And so now Trudeau has made a decision.
He's decided to invade his own country using an equivalent of martial law against his own people.
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With us right now is Ezra Levant, who's been on our show a couple times throughout the last few weeks, covering what's happening in Canada.
Ezra, how are you hanging up?
Fine.
It's very strange.
I got in my car, drove to work today.
Things look the same on the streets.
You wouldn't know that civil liberties have been suspended using the modern version of the War Measures Act.
I want to tell you, this Emergencies Act has never been used before in Canada, not on 9-11, not in the year 2014 when our parliament itself was attacked by an ISIS terrorist.
But this peaceful truckers' rebellion that we've all seen, moms and dads, and Canadian flags and street parties dancing, Trudeau has used that as the pretext to suspend our civil liberties.
And the first reaction many people have is: what's the problem?
There has literally not been a single act of violence.
What do they need to suspend civil liberties for?
Is there some riot?
Is there some insurrection?
No.
There was a bridge between Detroit and Windsor that was blocked.
Okay, the police cleared it with no incident.
Very peaceful.
There was some loud horn honking in Ottawa.
A judge said no more use of air horns in the city.
It disturbs the residents.
Okay, they complied.
So what do they need basically martial law for?
Well, last night it became terribly and horrifically clear.
Trudeau and his deputy prime minister, whose name is Christia Freeland, have announced that they intend to seize the bank accounts of their political opponents without any due process, without any court orders.
And I know what I'm saying must sound astounding to you, but they said this in the press conference, that they will treat donors to the truckers as if it was terrorist financing, and they will authorize and direct banks to seize those accounts, and they will hold the banks harmless from any lawsuits in reply.
This is a move they would use in Caracas.
This is what they would do in a police state, a banana republic.
They would take away the funds from the peaceful political opponents of the ruler.
There is no national security crisis in Canada.
Everyone has seen the Truckers Rebellion.
They're boisterous and noisy, but they have committed no crimes.
At least they've been charged with no crimes.
Trudeau used it as a pretext to basically, it's hard to imagine a coup by someone already in office, but the coup is he just took away our civil rights.
That's the coup.
Well, and so, Ezra, I made an argument earlier this hour that seldom do we get the opportunity to witness a country go from a representative form of government to a dictatorship.
That kind of transition is very rare, actually, in human history.
The most famous example that we talked about on this show that is studied by historians is Rome, obviously, that went from a republic to an empire.
And we've been actually accustomed by the Western propaganda press to believe the opposite is always happening, that we're liberating Syria so they can become a democracy or whatever stupid experiment they're doing.
But, Ezra, is it hyperbole or out of the kind of realm of reality to say that Canada very well might be transitioning its form of government at this very point?
I mean, signing the War Powers Act because a bunch of people are partying in the streets?
Am I off base here?
Well, I mean, if you look at the requirements in the law, there are four examples of a threat to the nation that are used to trigger this emergency act.
But they are, I mean, it's very clearly laid out.
They include things like a foreign act of espionage that endangers the state, serious violence, like not just a little bit of violence, but massive, serious violence that seeks to overthrow the government in like a revolution.
There's none of that.
There's none of that.
In fact, the law specifically protects peaceful dissent, which is what these truckers are.
So for Trudeau to say we have a national security threat, which it clearly doesn't, and to immediately announce he plans to seize the financial bank accounts of his political enemies, what is that other than, I mean, there's lots of jokes, is Fidel Castro actually Justin Trudeau's father?
There's such a family resemblance.
And of course, Trudeau's mom visited with Fidel many times.
I don't know if I believe that Fidel is actually the biological father of Justin Trudeau, but I deeply believe that he's the father figure, the role model for Justin Trudeau.
Trudeau has many times admired, publicly expressed his admiration for Castro.
Remember, Trudeau said China is the country he most admires.
Trudeau's father, Pierre Trudeau, went to Soviet Russia, went to Siberia with his sons and said, This is the land of the future.
Trudeau's, Justin Trudeau's brother made a documentary film produced by the dictatorship of Iran.
That same brother, Alexander Trudeau, wrote a book about China published by the Chinese government as propaganda.
This is a family that admires authoritarian power.
Justin Trudeau sees himself as a tyrannical leader who is restrained by nothing.
And so if he can seize power, he will.
I have no doubt that he really will seize the finances of his political opponents.
I see today that Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster has taken the list of donors to Gibson Go that was doxxed.
I'm not sure if you're up to speed on that.
GoFundMe raised $10 million.
They were pressured by Trudeau into canceling.
So the truckers went to Gibson Go.
They raised about $10 million.
Then an Ontario court froze those funds.
And then Gibson Go was hacked.
And all the donor details were published.
Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster is going through that hacked list of donors, emailing them, asking them to explain themselves.
I don't know.
Is that to set them up for having their bank account seized?
I don't know.
But they certainly are acting like a state broadcaster in places like North Korea or even Russia.
I think that Canada is really teetering on the brink.
It'll be interesting to see if there's any resistance to this.
The socialist party in our parliament called the NDP, that used to stand for the working class.
You would think they'd be on the side of the truckers.
They say they support Trudeau's crackdown and they're going to support his state of emergency.
These are dark days.
Let me ask a technical question.
What does it look like on the ground then in Ottawa?
He's sending in the stormtroopers?
Are people being arrested?
What's happening?
Well, that's the thing.
The answer is no, because those truckers are not committing crimes.
Are they committing some parking infractions?
Sure.
And they've handed out a lot of parking tickets, but those aren't crimes.
So this national emergency, you're not going to see.
That's the thing.
There was no problem to solve on the streets.
So I don't know if the truckers will be.
By the way, the Ottawa police chief resigned today, which is sort of ironic because it was Trudeau that created the mess, and the police chief resigned over it.
There is no need for a military or paramilitary solution on the streets of Ottawa because all it is is like a noisy blog party.
I think that was just the excuse for Trudeau to get financial information about his enemies.
I don't know.
This is new territory.
None of us have ever been here before.
But when Trudeau says he admires dictators, we ought best to believe him.
He's acting like one.
I just, I don't know what kind of response there will be from the Canadian people.
I know lots of amazing Canadians, and they're not, I mean, they're obviously not happy about this, but they don't really know what to do.
And I mean, in America, we have a Bill of Rights.
I know you guys have something similar, but it's nowhere near as robust as what we have in America for First Amendment protections.
Is that right, Ezra?
Yeah, I mean, your Bill of Rights starts with the first amendment is freedom of speech.
Our section one in our Constitution is a caveat that all the rights that follow are subject to reasonable limits.
So the substantive freedoms start in Section 2.
Section 1 up here says everything we're about to say, every freedom we're about to enshrine, we can take back from you.
So yours, the default is freedom.
Ours, the default, is state power.
That's the difference in our constitutions.
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Is it true that four provinces are not supporting this?
How does that work in Canada with the state-based versus the federal?
Well, the Emergencies Act requires the prime minister to consult with the provinces.
So that's just a quick phone call.
He doesn't need their permission or approval.
So Quebec, the second largest province, the French Canadian province, they say we don't want this.
Alberta, my home province, says they don't want it.
But it doesn't matter because this is a federal act that gives Trudeau the power.
And just because these provinces are saying, no, you're crazy, everything's under control.
We have local police taking care of it.
That doesn't stop Trudeau legally.
And what he really wants, like I say, I don't think he needs mounties to go and crack some skulls on the street.
I mean, he might do that, but I doubt it because there's actually no crime problem.
We've all seen the dance parts.
It's basically a festival.
I don't think police would do violence to those happy, peaceful protesters.
Trudeau wants this to do what his deputy prime minister announced they would do.
Tell banks to say, give us all the information about Canadian citizens who were donating to our political opponents.
And let me tell you who Trudeau's deputy prime minister is.
I don't think any Americans would know her.
Her name is Christia Freeland.
For about 25 years, she's been a biographer of George Soros.
She sits as a governor on the World Economic Forum.
So if you go to the World Economic Forum in Davos, if you go to their website, type in Christia Freeland, you'll be shocked to see that she's not just a member, she's one of the governors, as she also sits as the Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister in Canada, Trudeau's heir apparent, the second most powerful cabinet minister.
Some would say even more powerful than Trudeau because he doesn't really get involved with the substance of government.
You'll remember that video of Klaus Schwab boasting that not only is Trudeau one of his young acolytes, but half the Canadian cabinet is too.
Well, Christia Freeland is the Klaus Schwab key person in the Trudeau government.
This is not a speculation or a conspiracy theory.
It's on their website.
The idea that you would plug in to the Canadian banking system and get every financial detail about Trudeau's political opponents.
And those that irritate you, you can seize or freeze their bank accounts without a due process.
That is the definition of the Chinese social credit system.
And it's coming to Canada through the World Economic Forum's Christian Freeland using the Trucker Rebellion as a pretext.
That's what's happening.
So are Canadians going to fight back against this?
I mean, what does it look like from this point forward?
Well, our version of the ACLU, for the first time in two years, woke up and spoke out.
And I'm pleased they did because they've been silent for two years during the lockdown.
But our version of the ACLU, called the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, just said this is too much.
This is too far.
The largest and most left-wing newspaper in the country, it's called the Toronto Star.
To my surprise, today their editorial is, this is not a good thing.
This is a sign of Trudeau's failure.
Good.
There have been some columnists who are sympathetic to Trudeau saying this is too far.
But I say again, Charlie, who cares?
He's got the power.
You can have every journalist squawking.
You can have every premier squawking.
But Trudeau has the power in his hands.
A man who idolizes and studied Fidel Castro, a man who boasts that China is the country he most admired.
Do you think he cares what some columnist says?
Is there a check and balance or no?
Is he just a dictator?
There is a check and balance, but it's weak and it's slow.
This has to be renewed after 30 days, and I fear it will be.
Well, that's my question.
It's a structure problem, right?
And it's the structure of government matters a lot.
And now he basically can be Caesar Augustus and just do whatever he wants to do.
So it's a question of the will, right?
And so it's a question of whether or not the people on the ground are going to enforce the orders, right?
It's a question of whether or not people are going to comply.
And that's the only way you could break apart.
He might have the power in his hands, but he needs thousands of shock troopers to actually put the handcuffs on people.
He needs tens of thousands of people to support this kind of infrastructure.
And I'm not so sure because that requires muscular people.
10 seconds, Ezra.
Only if he's going the cop route.
But I'm telling you, he's going the social credit banking route.
That's smart.
He's not going to knock heads.
He's going to get your banking data.
That's right.
Okay.
We're going to have to have you back, Ezra.
Thank you so much.
God bless you.
Stay safe.
Be thankful we have the U.S. Constitution, everybody.
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