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Oct. 1, 2023 - Blood Money
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The Border Invasion is The End of America w/ Jonathan Alexander
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Diane Feinstein has died at 90 years old while still serving in the Senate.
Wrap your head around that.
That's today's top news.
What should be today's top news is that our border is being invaded.
And according to Jonathan Alexander, our guest today, the entire population of the United States is at risk of genocide.
Jonathan Alexander is a private investigator who has dedicated his life to exposing and documenting the treason happening at our border.
Thank you for joining us for this episode of Blood Money.
This is a test.
Today we have a very special guest, Jonathan Alexander.
How are you doing, sir? Doing good.
So Jonathan is, the primary thing that he does is covers what's happening at the border.
Not the mainstream media BS that they give us and say our borders totally fine, but the real truth is, you know, which is that our borders are open.
And there's a lot of horrible things happening.
Jonathan has been at the border hundreds of times over the last few years, documented thousands of hours of footage, and he's here to tell us what he has witnessed.
So, Jonathan, you know, why don't we just dive right into it, man?
Tell us, what's your latest, I guess, experiences, things that you've seen at the border?
And, you know, kind of bring us up to speed on what's going on down there.
Oh, absolutely. So, just in the last week alone, we've had over 11,000 Illegals come right through the border wall.
The amount of human trafficking down there is unbelievable.
So one of the things that you see a lot of is these women that come through the border wall, they're actually recruited by the cartel to traffic these children.
So once they come in, they just line up on the border wall like they're all headed out to Disneyland or something.
That's the best way to explain it.
They know Border Patrol will come, pick them up, Take them over to the processing center.
They're processed from that point.
Usually within about 12 to 14 hours, they're at an airport or a bus station being shipped out to a city near you.
Wow, wow.
So, I mean, you know, you've collected a lot of footage, and so tell me, like, what are some of the things that you've actually witnessed, that you have actual footage of, you know, and give us, start with some of the worst things that you've actually captured on tape.
Well, we've actually witnessed decapitations.
We did not actually film that live.
That's not something that the world needs to see, and But we have seen decapitations.
I brought that up to the house floor in Boise, Idaho.
They actually had me fly out there to give an update on the border.
I did have the live footage that I would have played.
They said it was too graphic for the audience.
So I did share it with the media out there.
But again, the media hides that from people.
They do this every day.
We've actually witnessed the Border Patrol cutting razor wire, letting the legals right on in.
We've actually, right outside of Three Points, Arizona, they have a human trafficking camp up there, right in Araboc, Arizona.
Do you see actual border guards cutting the wires to let the legals in?
Oh, absolutely. You can go on my livebordernews.com channel.
Or you can go on my Jonathan Townsend Alexander, and that's J-O-H-N-A-T-H-O-N, and then Townsend Alexander, and that's on Facebook.
You can follow me on my YouTube channel, my Telegram channel.
I've got a Live Order News channel right there.
We just started up the other day.
We're putting a lot of footage on it right now as we speak.
Yeah, the stuff that we witness is unbelievable.
I mean, the people that were cutting, because that's flat-out treason, I would assume, right?
That's absolutely. You couldn't have said it better.
So, I mean, are there lists of these individuals that would actually cut the border fence to let illegals in?
Now, what do you mean, is there a list?
I mean, of names of these people that would do such a thing.
Because you would think that you would want the names of those people documented so they could be prosecuted at a future date.
Well, we have all this on record right now.
We are actually filing a petition to Congress.
Kirk, with Kirk's Law Corner, just left my place down here.
He was here with me for 10 days.
We have a petition to Congress.
And we've got it filed.
I'm going to have to go testify before Congress, provide all my evidence, my footage, and the reports that I have.
I also have like 571 pages from Border Patrol's own reports where they're admitting that they're doing crimes, writing their own reports.
We're going to present that over to Congress as well.
I mean, okay, but...
It seems as though we're in quite a lawless time, right?
So you present that to Congress.
You say, hey, like, we got all this evidence of border guards basically breaking the law, and they should be prosecuted.
I mean, do you think anything is going to come of it with the things being as corrupt as they are today?
Well, this is why we're in our petition.
It's Article 4, Section 4.
Give me a second here.
Let me see if I can pull it up for you.
Article 4, Section 4.
The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a Republican form of government and shall protect each of them against invasion and on application of the legislature or of the executive when the legislature cannot be convened against domestic violence.
Section 4 is generally known as the Guarantee Clause.
Through its terms, the United States makes three relative assurances to the states.
One is a guarantee of Republican form of government.
Two, protection against foreign invasion.
And three, upon request by the state protection against internal insurrection or rebellion.
So, What we have down there, this fits in every one of those categories.
We have an invasion on our borders.
I'm all about legal immigration.
This country's made of, you know, immigrants.
But what's happening on the borders right now, we've got over 150 countries pouring through our southern border.
I've got on live film Chinese coming right through the border.
I'm talking men of fighting age.
You know, they don't have IDs.
These guys are instructed to drop their IDs across the border on the Mexico side.
There's piles that are five feet tall of IDs from all different countries.
So when they come through the border, they try to claim asylum, the whole nine yards.
Border Patrol will even tell you, we know these people are not who they say they are, but we have been ordered asylum.
To do it this way and we're just following orders.
Because we've questioned Border Patrol why they're allowing this if they know these people are not really who they're claiming to be.
That is absolutely insane.
So, I mean, just following orders.
I mean, we keep hearing this just following orders thing.
And, you know, growing up, I remember in school, we were told that that's what the Nazis said.
And so we shouldn't just follow orders.
I mean, how is it that so many people that are supposed to be, you know, citizens of this country, patriots, you know, whatever, you know, should love this country are...
Really, part of destroying it, I mean, they could easily say enough is enough, but they're just following orders.
I mean, how come that is?
And that's a good point.
You know, the thing is, is people don't get this.
This is not just a Republican problem.
This ain't a Democrat problem.
This is an American crisis that we're all facing.
And I'm sick and tired of people pointing the fingers all at the Democrats.
Not that I'm supporting what they're doing, but I want to make this clear.
The Republican Party is just as guilty because they've been allowing this to happen.
So both sides of the aisle, as far as I'm concerned, is just as corrupt as the other.
People don't understand.
Human trafficking is a multi-billion dollar operation.
And both sides of the aisle...
As far as I'm concerned, are just as corrupt and are involved in this.
And that's what I've got to say about it.
Wow, wow. So I mean, all right, so let's talk about, you know, you should, at least for the last three years, you've been at the border seeing what's happening, right?
Or at least the last couple years?
Absolutely. I mean, tell us, you know, tell us a little bit more about, you know, we understand there's people on our side that are basically, you know, cutting fences, letting other, you know, illegals in.
Tell us what else that you've observed in terms of, These individuals coming in, what's a percentage of men versus women?
What do you decipher from these individuals?
Are they like regular people?
Are you seeing a lot of people that look sketchy?
What's the overall picture of what's happening at the border?
Well, sometimes we get groups of several hundred men at once.
No women at all in the group.
And it's like, where's all the women and children?
I mean, that's sketchy as can be.
We just got live footage of where a bunch of people came through, cleaned from another country, not even to do with Mexico.
And we're asking, you know, they're being asked where they're headed.
And it was to all parts of our country.
You know, one of the things that's very concerning, and I want to bring this to the audience's attention, is, you know, The amount of fentanyl that we get coming through our borders.
We get enough fentanyl just in the Tucson sector each day that comes right through the border that can kill every last man, woman, and child here in America.
Now, nobody is ever bringing this up, and I don't know why they're not paying attention.
We've got enough fentanyl already in our country that lasts over 100 years.
That kills the market in the fentanyl.
So why are they focused on bringing so much fentanyl into our country?
And I'm going to give you my speculation on this matter.
In my opinion, I believe they're planning a terrorist attack with it.
If you hit our waterways, our food supply chains all across America all at the same time, what's going to happen?
By the time the American people realize what the heck just hit us, we're going to have millions and millions of people dead here in America.
And quite frankly, I believe that's what they're plotting.
Wow. I mean, is it as simple as like them, you know, let's say like a waterway where, you know, that goes in our tap water.
Is it as simple as them dumping a bunch of fentanyl in there and basically people are dying at that point?
Oh, absolutely. I'll give you a good example.
Here a little over a week ago, there was over 30 pounds of fentanyl that was seized on the border.
For your audience that doesn't know how many people 30 pounds of fentanyl can kill, that can kill over 7 million people.
500 and I think it's 50,000 people.
That's a large population.
And that's just from 30 pounds.
Wow. Wow.
Crazy. So, I mean, this is just, this is a major crisis that we're facing in this country.
And nobody wants to talk about it until it hits their home front.
Yeah. And that's the thing that you're going to find with all your congressmen, your senators.
They all blow, you know, turn the other cheek and look the other way until it hits one of their family members.
Kind of like all the legals being transported all over the country.
You know, they dump Moffat, Martha Stewart's Vineyard or wherever.
Next thing you know, these people are throwing an absolute fit and say they don't want them in their backyard.
Yeah. But other than that, they 100% support, you know, The fact that we have mass invasion on our borders until it's in their backyard.
You know, I gotta ask this, like, Michael Yon, who we've interviewed a few times, you know, most recently, just a couple of days ago, really is, you know, firmly believes that this is a planned invasion, that these people are being brought in, in mass, because there's gonna come a time where, when they're gonna turn against the population that currently exists here, Literally murder people in order to get their homes.
Like, you know, he's talking about mass genocide, replacement of the current, you know, middle class or whatever, especially the white folks.
And yeah, he's very firm in that belief.
And he was saying that he's tired of talking nicely about it, that this is what's happening.
This is part of a massive planned genocide and people need to wake up.
What do you think about those comments?
I 100% agree with them.
Really? Without a doubt. I mean, is it like what you're observing at the border makes you feel like this is all a setup to some kind of genocide or war?
Absolutely. Without a doubt.
I mean, do the people that are coming in look like they're curated or curated in the sense that a specific type types of individuals are being sent here?
You know, the people that are coming in are a lot of these guys are actually cartel guys coming in as well.
So let's make no mistake about it.
They come in and they blend right in with the large groups coming through the wall.
And Border Patrol, again, Border Patrol will tell you they know these are cartel guys, but they're ordered to do the catch, take them to the processing center, and ship them to wherever the heck they say they're going.
So, again, this is our federal government that, as far as I'm concerned, they're assisting in this foreign invasion.
I mean, let me ask you this.
Why are they assisting in this foreign invasion?
If the idea is that these people are being brought in, and by the way, there's historical precedent to that sort of thing, like genocides that have happened in the past where prisoners, criminals were released for the purpose of essentially being the ones to commit to slaughter and go around door-to-door murdering people and that sort of thing.
So that has been done. Let's say that's the plan.
Why did they decide to trigger this now?
Did something happen?
Obviously, we're talking about elite.
We're talking about very powerful people.
They could have done this 20 years ago.
They could have done this 10 years from now.
Why is it that they are executing this plan right now?
Honestly, I think they're hoping to have these people on their side is my opinion.
I think I think the left is hoping to have enough people to go against the right because right now they know the right side very much outguns the left side.
And I hate to say it like that, but honestly, I think that's my input on it.
Because right now, you know, America is so close to seeing all hell break out that it's unbelievable.
And my apologies, I've got a little dog here in the background barking.
You know, one of the individuals that we spoke with recently on the Board of Money podcast, what he was saying about the timing of all this is that, you know, I guess what we've seen in the last seven years is kind of like a great awakening, right? I don't think in 2016, you know, idea of like Pedophiles were on people's consciousness.
I don't think sexualization of children, the attack on children, the attack on masculinity.
All these topics weren't necessarily in vogue at that time.
Years later, we've had a great awakening and this interview subject was making the point that because there was that great awakening and people were starting to realize really how scummy a lot of the elite are and the, you know, the child trafficking and all that stuff.
Now they're like, oh, we got to hit the reset button, kill all these white people because obviously the white people are, you know, primarily at the forefront of the great awakening.
I mean, that's not hard to decipher.
And so now they're like, oh, we got to kill all these white people, you know, rather than them coming after us pedophiles and, you know, corrupt individuals.
And, you know, they know that, you know, the agenda is like, you know, a lot of people feel like these treaseless individuals need to be hung through due process, not through violence, through illegal process.
But they're like, oh, wow, we got caught.
Now we got to kill all these people that want our heads because they know what we're all about.
What do you think about that?
That statement from our former Blood Bunny guest.
You know, I have to agree.
Yeah? I do.
I mean, you know, I'll give you kind of a good example of the corruptness going on.
I mean, out on the border there, about 40 miles from the border wall on American soil, we got the humanitarian aid sitting there dropping water and food drops to the cartel.
So to make a long story short, we've got the Pima County Sheriff that protects these water and food drops.
I've got copies of Border Patrol's reports where Border Patrol was actually destroying these water and food drops because they didn't believe in feeding the enemy.
So to make a long story short, those Border Patrol agents were terminated for destroying the water and food drops.
Others were actually just disappointed.
Okay. So, to make a long story short, the Pima County Sheriff is now protecting the water and feed drops.
If you're caught destroying them, tampering with them, or anything else, you automatically go to jail.
Again, why are we feeding and watering the cartel?
If, you know, when you take an oath, what does your oath say?
You are to protect and defend the Constitution against what?
All enemies, yeah.
Foreign and domestic.
So why are you aiding and assisting the cartel?
Why is Border Patrol assisting them in this invasion?
This is all treason, any way you look at it.
They know it's treason.
Yeah. So why is the American people allowing this?
Because what else does the Constitution tell us?
We, the people, are not to allow this kind of a corrupt government.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But what does the Constitution also tell us?
We have to take this before Congress, which is why we filed our petition.
Yeah. Basically, this is a declaration of war going over to Congress.
Yeah. This is where we're telling them, you must declare war on our border invasion.
Yeah, yeah. If Congress wants to sit there and tell us to blow it out our ear...
From that point, we can take it over to military affairs.
Before we get to military affairs, let me ask you this, right?
Because one thing I've personally been observing is, you know, this is...
Okay, if you look at really the destruction of what it is, I think, is Christian principles, Magna Carta, common law...
The fact that our current law, the lineage of it is from the Bible, right?
The reason I bring this up is because we're constantly hearing our constitution has to change, our laws, you know, they want to basically go towards a more Marxist thing, right?
But the root of our law really stems from Christianity, really stems from the Bible.
That's the lineage of it.
That's where it comes from, absolutely.
And, you know, the Constitution was inspired by that.
The Magna Carta was inspired by that.
There's a clear lineage between the Bible to the Magna Carta to the Constitution.
Okay, so what I'm trying to get...
The point that I'm trying to make here is that when you look at it globally, there's been an attack on Christian beliefs...
Right? Which are paralleled with constitutional beliefs.
That's why I wanted to make the point that these are of the same lineage, right?
Now, Christianity has been attacked for the last couple of hundred years.
And if you look at parts of the Near East, Middle East that were once 90%, 100%, or 95% Christian, today they're like 10%, 5%.
Those populations have dwindled and a lot of them have come to the United States for their religious freedom.
Right? And, you know, we know a lot of cultures like that that have been persecuted, whether, you know, it's in the Middle East, whether it's in the Near East, Central Asia, you know, even China, you know, people are persecuted constantly for their Christianity, right?
And then you bring that over here to our soil, which now there are further trying to dilute the Christian population.
Now, they did this in Europe about 20 years ago, and we were the When I say we, our corrupt president at the time, in my opinion, George W. Bush, that started the Iraq War, got all of those people from the Iraq War to migrate into Europe,
and that's where the destruction of the European populations, in terms of multiculturalism, And by the way, the UK secretary, who was, by the way, of Indian descent, recently said that multiculturalism is a complete failure in Europe, right? So 20 years after the Iraq war, we saw that destruction.
And then now it's happening here by this crisis.
So it's clear that this is the globalists like this mode of operating.
It's clear that they're very happy that Christianity...
The populations in Europe, Central Asia, Near East, Middle East have dwindled to almost nothing, and now the same thing is happening here, right?
The point I'm trying to make here is, do you think our, as Americans, our lack of global perspective Is now really biting us in the ass because it's not like this was a sneak attack.
This is 150 years coming and definitely in the last 20 years we saw this happen in Europe and now it's happening here.
Do you think that we, you know, we were kept ignorant about this issue and do you think our ignorance was then used against us to get away with these crimes on our soil?
Oh, absolutely. Our ignorance is being used against American people every day.
And anybody that doesn't want to see that or admit it is in the dark.
I mean, if you see the way they're pushing this upon the American people, the way it's happening, everybody's standing behind a keyboard saying, well, we got to do this, we got to do that.
When most people have no clue of what's even really happening out here, you know, I can't express that enough.
I mean, I've got people sitting there going, why are you guys shooting these illegals coming through the wall?
Mm-hmm. And it's like, well, why don't you guys come down here and join my team and see why?
You know, I mean...
Okay, so I'm not down for shooting people.
I just want to make that statement because I'm going to ask a question.
You know, well, firstly, that's like, I don't know if shooting illegals is the answer.
Much less than, you know, when January 6th happened, when that police officer shot, excuse me, that...
The woman? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Like, I mean, there was no reason for that shooting.
It's not like, you know, shooting one of those, you know what I mean?
There's just no justification because that dude coming at you doesn't have a gun, in my opinion, right?
But what is the answer?
What is the answer? You said, come down here, check it out, and you answer.
Well, in other words, what I'm getting at is, you know, what we have coming through the wall, what you'll usually see on the border wall a lot of the times, There's little children coming through.
We've got little children coming through that wall unattended.
Some of these children have 30 different DNAs in them from being raped.
I mean, multiple times.
And that's why I'm telling people, you know, quit being so quick to judge what's really happening down here on the border unless you're here with my team witnessing what we're witnessing every day.
You know, everybody's like, well, just throw the kid across the border.
Well, you know, you got to look at it in this aspect too.
How would you feel if that was your child being human traffic right back through the same border wall that they're bringing the other ones in through?
What would you tell Mexico to do?
I mean, this is the same thing that's going on all across the world.
And again, The main thing that people aren't waking up to is this is a multi-billion dollar organization going on for human trafficking.
These children aren't just being used for sex labor and everything in the book.
They're being used for organ harvesting.
We know this is going on.
That's why they're not DNA testing any of these children coming through the border.
And by the way, on that topic, you know, if I could just throw something in there, fentanyl.
I didn't know this, but we recently found out because we interviewed a lot of doctors and stuff.
So when somebody overdoses on fentanyl, their organs are preserved longer, hence organ harvesting.
It's very convenient. You know, back in the day, you know, there was a lot of drugs.
I mean, you could do a whole lot of heroin and still not overdose.
Fentanyl, it's very easy to overdose, literally granules.
Cause overdoses.
Correct. And, you know, just very convenient for those people that want to organ harvest.
You know, what a coincidence, right?
Yep. So again, you know, we've just got so many crises going on all at once in our country.
And I think that's part of why they're doing it all at once.
They want such a distraction.
So you got human trafficking over here.
You got the cartel trafficking over here.
Drugs. You got Americans sitting there being hired To traffic illegals now.
Because they're getting $3,000 a pop.
If they can get 10 people in their rig, what did they just make?
In one day.
The cartel...
I mean, the farmers down there in the Tucson sector, Phoenix, the whole area, will tell you.
The cartel has control over their properties.
These guys come on in and large force right on the ranchers' properties.
These ranchers are fed up.
We've had ranchers actually take up arms against the cartel, defending their land, defending their family, their lifestyle.
I mean, when you have, when you start and interrupt you, when you have, you know, American politicians benefiting from cartels, there being evidence that they're working with the cartels.
There being evidence that the cartels are helping to steal elections.
I mean, you know, at this point, it's like a partnership.
Hence, you know, all those individuals that are working with the cartels, you know, public officials, whatever, Be tried for treason.
But really, that's what's happening.
That's what's emboldening these cartels to do whatever they want on American soil.
Because, I mean, really what should happen is the army should go in there and mow these people down.
End of it. It could be done in like four hours if they wanted it.
Well, I'll give you a good example.
Here in Arizona, they actually declared the cartels being terrorists.
Governor Hobbs of Arizona turned around and vetoed that bill.
Why would you veto a bill that represents exactly what they are?
The cartel is nothing but terrorists, and I'll say it like it is.
I mean, if you're trafficking fentanyl into our country to kill Americans, and you know what it's doing to America, why are you allowing this?
I mean, that's the million-dollar question.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Why are you allowing it? Why are you allowing it is because, you know, treason and that's it.
But the wholesale nature of it, the number of people is what's really shocking.
You know, it's like you got, you know, these minion types at the border or border guards cutting fences open.
You have the public officials involved in it, not holding people accountable.
I mean, every single sector of American society seems to be corrupted and or treasonous.
And so how do you stop this sort of thing?
And you know, the other thing I'll point out as well is the fact, you know, we've actually witnessed Border Patrol where they've had women and children come through the border.
They'll turn around and separate the children from the mothers, load them up on a different bus, and they're actually shipped out to a total different sector.
Why are you, you know, so again, what's happening there?
And why did they separate these children from their so-called moms?
Unless they actually knew it.
But regardless of what the point is, we're seeing it right there on the border wall, right in the middle of the transport.
This is what we see happen.
So crazy. So this, again, you know, this is, I truly believe that the government itself is involved in the human trafficking as well.
And I'll say it like it is.
That's what I believe.
I've seen enough now.
We've gathered enough evidence that, you know, that's my speculation.
Wow. Wow.
So let me ask you this now.
Oh, well, one thing I want to actually mention before the next question is for the viewers that are really interested in seeing like the 360 of this whole what's happening on our border.
We've done multiple episodes in our HN News Live series of Michael Yon at the border.
We've talked to Christy Hutcherson on blood money.
We've spoken with Michael Yon a few times on blood money.
We've talked to the Liberty Chicks who cover border Trafficking in Arizona.
And so, I mean, there's a lot of stories out there.
There's others, by the way.
I mean, I've heard this on at least a dozen episodes.
Really horrible things, what you're saying with, like, even, you know, as young as six-year-olds and seven-year-olds with, like, 40, 50 different kinds of sperm inside them.
Just really grotesque things.
You know, murders, you know, cartel murdering men in front of their children because, I don't know, they were, like, You know, $100 short on whatever coyote fee.
I mean, just really violent, heinous shit, which is probably your experience too, John.
Well, what we see a lot of is we'll see the, you know, where if the family refuses to give their children to the cartel, the cartel would just actually behead one of the family members, whether it's mom, dad, one of the children.
You know, they'll just behead them and say who's next.
Next thing you know, the family does surrender the rest of their family over to the cartel.
You know, it's all about intimidation.
Wow. Wow, crazy.
And, you know, I also know for a fact some of the Border Patrol have been threatened right down on the Tucson sector where the cartel is telling them, it's either you work with us or, you know, we're going to come after your family.
So that's why a lot of the reasons why you'll see Border Patrol assisting the cartel with helping the illegals cross into our country.
And Again, we're going to bring that out in Congress as well.
Wow, wow.
Jonathan, is there, you know, this is amazing information, man, and thank you for the work you're doing covering what's happening at the border.
So you actually have thousands of hours of footage of all the crimes happening at the border.
Absolutely. Wow, wow.
Not just crimes, but, you know, not just hours of footage.
We've got reports right from Border Patrol itself showing the And right in their own reports, it shows the corruption right there in the agency.
Like, you know, it shows right there in the reports where they made a deal with the No More Death Camp.
This is a human trafficking camp right in Arabaka, Arizona.
It's Cartel Ram.
Border Patrol has raided it multiple times.
They finally made a deal with them.
They'll leave them alone. Why are you making deals with the cartel on American soil?
Wow. And you know it's a human trafficking camp.
We're going to put that before Congress as well.
Wow. And who's the people doing the deals with the cartel?
This is Border Patrol itself.
Wow. Making the deal, right?
And it states it right in their reports.
And this is what blew me away.
I can't believe they were so stupid to put this down in writing on their own Border Patrol reports.
Wow. So we've obtained them.
We've got it. It's going to Congress.
And we're going to bring it out.
Wow, wow, man.
And again, this is corruption within the agencies.
And this is happening not just on the Mexico border.
And I want to clarify something with your audience as well.
Everybody thinks this invasion is only in Mexico, Texas, New Mexico.
How about our Canadian borders?
You know, we've got a mass amount of illegals coming through the Canadian border as well.
I just got done interviewing down in Lake Havasu, Arizona, a lady that was human traffic from Canada.
And you can go on livebordernews.com and see that interview I did with her.
And she will tell you exactly what happened.
So, again, you know, people think this is just the Mexico border situation.
This is happening all across the country.
Wow, wow.
Jonathan, you know, let me ask you this.
Like, so when you talk to these border guards that are, you know, or agents or the border agencies that are cutting deals with the cartel, like, what's the excuse that they're making to themselves?
How do they justify their actions?
Believe it or not, they all say they're just following the orders.
I have interrogated them, questioned them to no end, trying to understand why.
And when I find out they're making deals with the cartel and I'm talking to them about it, these guys will say no comment, no comment.
You know, you get every excuse in the book is what I'm trying to say.
I mean, the thing that's blowing me away is like, what country?
Like, look, I came here, I was actually born in Canada.
I came here when I was 12 years old.
That's why, and you know, I'm like, I have a lot of Russian and Armenian family.
That's why my accent's a little weird and stuff.
I grew up in LA and I remember, I mean, between the age of 12 to like 18, we were like, like the idea of like, you know, just following orders and how bad the Nazis were and how bad it is to just follow orders.
I mean, this was like hammered into our heads.
So like, what school did these folks go to?
I mean, it was the schools in California teaching a whole different curriculum than everywhere else because we're told like just following orders is like the worst thing you could ever do when you know you're Well, I'm actually glad you brought that up as well, because I'll share a little story with you guys.
So, Governor Hobbs ordered the National Guard down to the border.
She ordered them to be down there unarmed.
Okay? So, when we were questioning some of the National Guard people, we were sitting there saying, why are you assisting with this foreign invasion?
Why are you allowing this?
We're just following orders, is her response.
Wow. Well, here's the thing.
The military tribunal court, if this is ever brought before them with what they're doing, they have no room for ignorance or stupidity.
In the military code of conduct, it states, if you know the orders you are giving are unlawful, that are going against the Constitution, you are to take it to your higher chain of command.
If you do not get answers from them, Then you go to the top officials.
You don't just follow orders because somebody said, you must do this.
If you know you're assisting in a foreign invasion, and again, the Constitution says you're not to assist with a foreign invasion on our soil, you're to protect and defend our borders, why are you doing it?
Why are you carrying out those orders?
I mean, that's the million-dollar question.
And For them to just respond to me saying, well, we're just following orders, that's not an answer.
I mean, is there ever going to be a class of, because, you know, politicians, judiciary, I mean, is there ever going to be a class of politician and, I mean, judges that aren't highly corrupt?
It seems like the judicial industrial complex is a corrupt mess from, you know, what's going on right now, like persecuting You know, people that do nothing on January 6th while, you know, guys with like trunk loads of fentanyl are, you know, basically released on bail when they have enough fentanyl to kill like 8 million people.
It just, we could tell the judicial system is not working and it's very obvious, been very obvious for a really long time, the legislature is not working.
So are we ever going to have a class of politician and judge that actually holds these individuals accountable?
Well, you know, I'm not promoting violence.
I never do promote violence, but I can tell you right now, until the people of America do what the Constitution says, we are not to allow this kind of a corrupt government.
We are to take control of it and put a stop to it.
Honestly, I don't see any other thing ever changing.
Yeah. And that's just my opinion in the matter.
Wow. Wow.
But again, I'll always make that disclaimer.
I never promote violence because I don't.
But at the same time, something has to happen in this country to make a major change.
Every year, I mean, look at the reality.
Every year, you get the same politicians, the same people getting back into Congress year after year.
They all make all these promises or, oh yeah, we're going to put a stop to this Crap happening on the borders.
We're going to do this. We're going to do that.
The second they get in the office, it's like Groundhog Day movie.
Yeah. It's waking up to the same crap every day.
But everything, you know, sorry to interrupt, but like everything is so corrupted.
I mean, it's like you don't even have a chance of getting into office unless you're corrupted.
Because, you know, the math, look, even without the individuals being corrupted, the math doesn't make sense.
You're going for a $200,000 a year office and you need to raise like $5-10 million for that.
I mean, guess what happens with the differential?
So I think the minute you have...
The entry point being so high, you're basically handing your politics to the elite because mom and pops can't fund that campaign.
And so lobbying these high dollar campaigns because it costs so much to win a seat because of various factors, including your campaign manager industrial complex.
I mean, all of these things drive up the price so high that these people are corrupt before they enter through the door.
They have to be in a way.
So I think the whole system, you know, we're talking about, you know, redoing our judicial industrial complex, you know, redoing our Congress.
I mean, it seems like the entire system needs a redo.
I mean, what do you think about that?
Oh, I agree. I mean, I think everybody that is running for office has already bought and paid for.
And I do. I mean, they're not really the ones wanting to enforce this.
They're the ones being instructed to enforce this.
Mm-hmm. And it's all about this right here.
All about money. And you know, the color of money makes the most honest corrupt at times.
The ones that mean well, they get in the office, next thing you know, greed overtakes them.
Yeah. I mean, you know, one of the things that came up with our, the reason I mentioned Michael is because obviously what you guys are doing is really similar.
I mean, both of you guys have been spending a lot of time at the border for the last couple of years.
Both of you guys have, you know, a good perspective on what's happening there.
In fact, it seems like both of you guys agree on everything because everything I've said that he's said And vice versa, you guys agree on.
You both think that this is a war, you both think that this is all about a genocide happening or coming down the pipeline against mostly a white population.
When we talk about this idea of potential violence, because that is, let's be realistic here.
Yes, I do not condone violence.
I'm being very clear about that.
You've already made it very clear that you don't condone violence.
We're not calling for violence, right?
But when you look at a historical perspective, right?
The past is precedent. They have that on the big courthouses for a reason because the past is precedent, right?
And when you look at the past being precedent, you look at other times in history where there's been the sequence of events and the amount of things that are happening that are brewing and leading in a specific direction.
All indications show that there's violence coming down the pipeline.
Michael Yan says that, look, the weapons that they have, you know, we saw what happened in Hawaii.
A lot of people think that that's a direct energy weapon that could just wipe out people and, you know, incinerate.
And he's like, look, with weapons like that, and, you know, they're like 50, 100 years ahead of us with their technology, we don't stand a chance.
That was his point, that we should all be very concerned because, you know, if they really want to wipe all of us out, they could do it.
Oh, they could wipe out a whole city in a matter of minutes.
Yeah, yeah. And we know this.
Yeah. You know, I mean, you look at what's going on around this country, all the mass fires, the mass cattle dying, mysteriously dying all over the country.
You know, I mean, all the chicken farms burning to the ground, all the flower and wheat plants burning to the ground.
You know, we've covered this story many times over the last couple of years.
And actually documented it.
I mean, but yet they want everybody in America to believe all this is just natural fires or this is natural death.
I mean, or the cattle are dying from the heat.
Well, these areas where this was all taking place, these cattle have never died before like this.
And they've gone through the same heat and everything.
But yet, you know, we know what they're plotting.
We know right now I mean, as far as I'm concerned, these fires, these train derailments, this is all part of the plan as well.
And they're trying to cripple America right now.
And the question is, is why?
And I think most people out there know exactly why.
But I don't want to say it on here.
I don't want to sound like some big extremist.
But at the same time, I know what they're plotting.
And I can't express that enough.
And I mean, in the most crystal clear words, what are they plotting?
Like in one or two sentences, so the viewer hears it in the most concise fashion.
They want to have complete control over the American people, over the world population.
And what better way to do it is depopulate your cities, depopulate people to the point to where the resistance is not going to be there.
That's my opinion. Alright, let me throw this at you, you know.
I mean, again, past this precedent, history, you know.
I mean, there was a time...
The way the Roman Empire was destroyed was really the dilution of their principles, right?
The more they conquered, the more they brought in people, the more they diluted what their core principles were.
And the more they had really enemies working within their midst, right?
And people that were working counter to the system.
And I saw this in the United Kingdom, actually, many years ago, you know, where I started hearing about child trafficking where, you know, I'm not saying this in racial terms.
These are just facts.
But like, literally, they were hiring African immigrants that were much more prone and willing to break The law break morality by doing false charges against single mothers mostly.
It was happening to parents of all kinds, but mostly single mothers in order to basically steal children, especially white children, which in the adoption world, I hate to say it, another fact, not trying to be racist, but white children hold a higher value.
They're more in demand.
And so specifically white Single mothers were being targeted by, essentially, Children's Aid Society workers in the United Kingdom, their version, I think it's called CAFCAS, in order to basically make false allegations against these single mothers to essentially, you know, kidnap the children and sell them into adoption, you know?
So, you know...
There's like many examples of this sort of thing that were happening in Europe where you literally have enemies working within your midst.
And when I say an enemy, I'm talking about somebody that's obviously working against the law and sadly so been empowered in that case by British authorities and individuals to be able to commit crimes in that way, right?
Well, you know, I want to throw one thing out there to you while you're saying all this because what you're saying makes sense.
You know, Right outside of Tucson, they're setting up all these overnight camps.
The Border Patrol is. We've documented it.
We've filmed it. We've seen the busloads of men coming into these areas where they're doing it.
This ain't anywhere where the people can see it, except for people in these farming communities are saying, oh, what's this going up?
What's this, this, and this?
Well, you know, here's the other thing.
When you have all these illegals coming in, I think also this is their army coming in.
I think they're actually training these guys.
And what we have seen going on at these areas I'm talking about pretty much explains it all.
But at the same time, when you keep bringing in your armies and you're killing off the American people, But yet you've got your army coming in from foreign soil that you think is going to work with you.
And I know this sounds very extreme, but this is what I truly believe.
Because why else are you allowing it to come in to kill off the American population and replenish it with nothing but these illegal men of fighting age coming in as well?
Yeah, I mean, you know, the thing that's really striking is the historical parallels about this sort of thing.
This is what's really shocking to me hearing, you know, this entire story is the fact that, you know, there is actual, like, in terms of prisoners being released, in terms of migration of populations in order to cause something like a genocide, kill off populations, I mean, that's happened over and over again in the 20th century.
And, you know, that is actually, you know, if you want to give some examples, I mean, that actually happened in Turkey, the Ottoman Empire.
It's happened in the Balkans, you know.
A lot of the wars in the 20th century happened because of the displacement of populations and that sort of thing.
So, you know, that's clearly coming down the pipeline.
Now, the point that I was trying to make is that, you know, the...
The population being brought in there to conduct a war against Americans.
Now, even though Michael Young was saying that we don't really stand a chance because their weapons are better and bigger and whatever, right?
Is that really true?
Because, I mean, we've seen this throughout history, you know, the Vietnam War being a great example, Korea being another great example, right?
You know, definitely Iraq being another great example.
And that example being, those examples all showed that when you're fighting a war on somebody's turf, doesn't matter the kind of weapons that you have, the guerrilla warfare, and the fact that that is that Those people's home terrain, ultimately, you could come with all the weapons in the world.
Yes, you could nuke the whole place, but it's very hard to win a war against a population, even if they don't have the same kind of weapons, examples being the Vietnams, the Iraqis.
We lost those wars because those were not our home terrain.
So it's like, as bleak as they say, oh, these people saying that they could wipe us all out, I mean, could they really wipe us all out, or are they going to lose that?
War because it's not their home terrain.
Well, you know, here's the way I look at it.
Surrender is never in my vocabulary or my team's vocabulary.
Number two, you got too many military personnel out there that will stand with we the people as well.
You've got too many veterans all across this country.
Everybody is well armed.
Number three, what happened over in Hawaii Personally, I think it was a land grab.
And that was the way they were trying to do it.
But at the same time, what are you going to do?
Wipe out your cities where you got military personnel living and everybody else, you know?
I mean, you got to look at the facts behind it.
What's the best way to operate out in the field against a foreign invasion?
Operate in a three-man team, six-man teams.
Go in small groups.
You can wipe out mass groups, you know?
I mean, if And you've got enough trained veterans out there.
You've got enough military personnel out there that would stand right beside us and fight.
I can guarantee you right now, I don't believe for a second we're going to lose this fight.
All right. Let me ask you this, Joe Jonathan.
Do you think...
If we don't lose this fight, do you think that people will actually have the gumption to really...
Because, you know, there's fights we haven't lost, right?
We didn't lose the Revolutionary War.
But you know what? If you actually really research what happened, we did kind of lose it because After that, through the BAR, the British Accreditation Registry, they essentially reinvaded this land through the legal societies.
The reason why we have such a gridlock right now is because two out of three branches of our government are basically controlled by BAR agents.
What are BAR agents? Lawyers and judges, right?
So they control the judicial branch, but the legislature that's supposed to hold the judicial branch accountable when they do something stupid and wrong and something unconstitutional, meaning they should lose their judgeship automatically and the legislature should be doing that.
When we talk about judges that are breaking the law and being unconstitutional, I mean most of them are at this point.
It's not even like The Constitution is even something that they consider, right?
So that's what's supposed to happen, but that's not happening because 75% of our legislature is also bar agents, and they're more scared of the bar than they are of their constitutional oath because the bar bites back, whereas breaching the Constitution, disrespecting the Constitution, ignoring the Constitution doesn't bite back right now, right? So do we fix that problem?
Because unless you fix that, it's the same thing.
I mean, look, 200 years something years later, we're still suffering from the same tyranny of the British 200 years before because we didn't clean up this mess properly.
There was other kinds of wars that we were not aware of, like fifth-generational warfare, which I would argue has been happening through the bar, through the Federal Reserve, for the last hundred-something years.
It's not a new thing, fifth-generational warfare.
It's just something that we just found out about, but they've been conducting against us for a real long time, right?
So how do we, I mean, do we really get rid of it?
Do we have the gumption to go to the distance to make sure that really this becomes a true constitutional republic?
Well, you know, that's a very valid question, and I'm going to give you the answer.
Our forefathers knew this day was going to come.
That's why they wrote the Constitution.
And that's why the Constitution says we the people are not to allow this kind of corrupt government.
And that's why I said, until the American people have finally said, we all are going to say no more, and we're done with this corruption, this corruption will continue.
Right now, everybody keeps saying, well, Donald Trump is really in power.
He's coming back. Everything in the book.
I hear it all the time.
If this is all true, you know, that's a good thing, you know, at this point.
But we've been hearing this for how many years now?
So, at the same time, you know, it's up to we the people.
Donald Trump's only one man.
So, even if he came back in and took control, look at the amount of illegals that's already invaded our country.
Look what we're up against now, because we've allowed this foreign invasion.
It's going to take all of America to stand together and say, we're done with this corruption.
And take back control.
Get rid of the corrupt government, get rid of the corrupt politicians, just like the Constitution says we're supposed to do, and rebuild.
Because until that happens, the rest is history.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
And that's the way I see it.
Yeah, and I mean, so in all of this, are you optimistic?
Are you pessimistic? You know, right now, I'm an American that's sick and tired of the crap.
And quite frankly, there's days, I'll be honest, there's days I wish I'd wake up and see that some kind of a revolution has started.
I mean, I do.
There's days I'm just that fed up.
So, right now, I've got a lot of faith that the American people are at the same point because I've seen all across the country right now And the only reason why people have been standing down from this is because everybody keeps listening to, well, just be patient.
This is coming into play.
This is going to happen.
But you know, 2024 is coming up.
What happens if nothing's done?
And this is deja vu all over again.
Well, quite frankly, I think that's where you're going to see your revolution.
You think so? Oh, I know so.
People are that fed up. Yeah.
And right now, people are tired of waiting around.
They're tired of seeing the invasion.
They're tired of seeing the corrupt government.
And the only reason why the American people are being patient about it and standing down at this point is because everybody keeps convincing them that Donald Trump is really in control and just be patient.
And you know, whatever happens, happens.
But at the same time, if nothing happens in 2024, You know, there you go.
Or if all of a sudden, somehow Biden gets back in office, what then?
Yeah, what then?
Exactly what then. You know, man, this has been a really great episode, Jonathan.
Is there anything in closing that we didn't touch upon that you'd like to speak about or mention?
Yep, there is. You know, we need to all be in prayer for our country.
Pray for my team down on the border.
Um... We do need Spanish translators to help work with our team to where we can call you when we get these little children coming through the wall.
A lot of them have important information or they'll flat out tell you these aren't their parents.
At least to where we can get the messages relayed to people and let them know we know for a fact this is not their parent.
Boy, there's just so much out there.
We need boots on the ground to work with our security team down on the borders.
If you're willing to work with me and my team, call me directly at 928-716-3189.
We're looking for former veterans, former sheriffs.
Anybody willing to join up that's not ready to just come in with guns blazing.
We don't need a war zone down on the border.
We need people to work with us.
And especially with the tours we're giving to the senators that are coming to the border with me and my team, we need extra security teams to work with us on that as well.
And, you know, I'm constantly threatened by the cartel every day.
They've got even a bounty on my head.
But it's not going to stop me from getting the news out to America and for my continuing to report this.
And I'm sorry guys, I'm really hoarse.
So, been on a lot of shows lately.
All good, brother. All good.
I mean, this is what we got to do to let people know what's going on.
Now, you know, one of the things we didn't talk about that I'd love to kind of just speak about in closing here is like your background is you're a PI, you know, which is, you know, you had mentioned that before we started this episode, which is pretty amazing.
I mean, it's not like, you know, you could be out there.
I know a lot of PIs, you know, PIs could make a ton of money.
And I hate to say it, the divorce industry is a big one.
And I've I work with so many PIs.
I work with insurance companies that work with PI as a TV producer.
And so I know that, you know, there's a lot of things you could be doing other than running down on a border and, you know, getting your life threatened by cartels.
So, you know, kudos to you for sacrificing, you know, but tell us a little bit more about your background and what got you into all of this, what made you passionate enough to actually make the sacrifices you've made.
Well, you know, I'm glad you asked that.
You know, I do this on my dime.
I don't get paid for my reporting down there.
And quite frankly, I've gotten sick and tired of seeing the invasion over the last several years and what's really been happening down there on the borders.
And that's why I dedicated my life to this right now.
And so if it wasn't for having a pension coming in right now, I'd be SOL. But You know, for me, it's worth every dime of it to get it out to the American people, to get the corruption exposed, and to be at the point where we're at to where we can take this over to Congress and present all the actual facts to what's happening.
In that way, they can't claim, well, this is hearsay, this is this.
We've got the evidence right in hand showing the corruption.
So, anybody wishing to help donate for our cause, they can go to LiveBorderNews.com.
I do have a donate link on there.
Right now we are in need of some extra drones down there on the border because we use drones a lot as well.
And we're in need of a supply tent for the men to where when they come in out of the field, not a supply tent, a mess hall tent.
So when they come out of the field, they've actually got a place out of the hot sun to be able to enjoy a meal or something.
But beyond that, it's coming out of all of our pockets.
Wow. Wow, man.
Wow. So, you know, it sounds like you're not doing the regular PI stuff anymore.
I mean, you're pretty much... Your life is dedicated to this cause at this point.
Yeah, that's correct.
You know, I'm still with Stewart& Associates.
They're out of McCall, Idaho.
I'm actually out of Idaho.
But I have now totally dedicated my time for right now down here on the borders.
Amazing, brother. Amazing.
And, you know, it's not... Sometimes in life, you got to separate.
You know, in life, it's not all about money.
It's about God, family, and country.
And that's where I'm at. This is about God, family, and country.
Amazing, brother. Amazing.
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