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Oct. 1, 2023 - Blood Money
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The Ongoing Fight for Freedom with Attorney Thomas Renz (Blood Money Episode 129)
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So, let's get started. Let's go.
So,
Today we have a very special guest, actually one of our favorite guests who's been a fan of Blood Money from the start and has been gracious enough to come on to Blood Money when, you know, we had like 20 viewers, you know?
Thomas Renz, how are you doing, sir?
I'm doing great, fam. It's been way too long since we caught up.
Man, I'm glad to talk to you.
Yeah, we love having you on this show, man.
You've been such a, you know, frankly, a hero in the freedom fight.
You are somebody that does not censor themselves.
You are... Somebody that's not playing politics, and that's our favorite kind of individual on our podcast.
So, Tom, tell me, what has been going on?
I know you've been involved in a lot of different things in the Freedom Fight.
Tell me, since we last spoke, I think it was six months ago, what's been going on in your world?
Oh man, it's craziness everywhere, right?
So we've got, naturally the COVID stuff continues and we've broke a bunch of information about them putting mRNA and gene therapy stuff in foods.
Lately we've been talking a fair bit about Bill Gates' flying syringes.
We found out that they can actually aerosolize the vaccines and spray them and vaccinate you in the air.
We found out That basically, the vaccine technology It's so much more advanced than what most of the people on the conservative or the health freedom side realized.
It's terrifying. And actually, one of the problems is that we tend to look at our doctors, and we've got some spectacular doctors.
We've got some of the best doctors on the planet on our side of this issue.
But the problem is that you've got to understand that when they're designing this, you're talking about biochemical engineers and vaccinologists.
They aren't doctors. And so doctors, you know, they're looking at finished products or things going through the approval process.
The people who are building this stuff, they're outside of the medical field.
And so they're way further advanced than a lot of our doctors realize.
I've been having a lot of off-record conversations with a lot of doctors who are in the know.
And they're like, oh, my God, we didn't know that.
And then so we're looking at that.
We're looking at the election fraud.
You know, I've got some really interesting evidence on that.
I'm working on getting all verified and panned out.
We're working on Really, the political side, right?
We've been pushing really hard on passing legislation, on getting the word out, on making sure that people hear and are activated in what we're doing.
We've relaunched TomRentz.com.
We're just getting ready to relaunch the Rents-Law website and kind of change that up.
On the law side, we're doing Social Security Disability for all the VACs injured people.
And, you know, doing some other stuff to, you know, because that stuff helps pay the bills.
Because I don't, you know, I mean, I haven't been billing for my time as a lawyer for the last couple of years.
So it's been busy.
Wow, wow. So let's talk about this, the vaccine and the complexity of the vaccine.
It seems like there's a lot of hidden agendas, essentially hidden within that complexity.
Could you tell us a little bit more about what's going on there?
Yeah, so one of the things that's really crazy right now, Vem, is the number of different methods that they have to get this vaccine into you.
It's not just can they put an injection in your arm.
It's a lot of different things.
And it's not just this vaccine, it's any vaccine.
So what we're seeing is the Gates Foundation, NIA, all these different groups are working on alternative delivery methods.
And those alternative delivery methods include genetically modifying or altering food or otherwise chemically altering food so that it can deliver transmissible vaccines.
And I want to stress, this isn't conspiracy theory and this isn't me pulling a patent.
I have studies on these things.
A study indicates...
A patent says, you know, someone has an idea.
A study shows that they're actually testing the idea.
They built it and they're testing it, right?
So we've got studies...
Where, you know, someone spent a lot of money to study, you know, transmissible vaccines in food.
You know, the Gates Foundation, some of these others, they spent a lot of money designing malaria vaccines that are injected into people through mosquitoes.
The mosquito bites you and injects in the malaria vaccine.
We know that the inhalable, the aerosolized vaccines, they're working on it to, you know, you can vaccinate a whole flock of chickens, for example, by spraying them with a vaccine they're working on, right?
And some of this stuff is available.
Some of it's not. Some of it's licensed.
Most of it's not licensed.
But they're working on it and testing it.
And the thing that we've got to recognize is you don't spend the money to develop and test a product that you don't intend to make use of.
Yeah, yeah. And I mean, this idea of like, essentially, you're telling me that they're coming up with multiple different methods whereby they can vaccinate us without informed consent, pretty much against your will, more or less.
I mean, if a mosquito is vaccinating you, if they're aerosolizing it and spraying it, they're basically not giving you that freedom of choice.
How is that sort of thing happening in this world?
I mean, how could that even be permissible?
How is that? I mean, sounds like Borderline crime against humanity, if not straight-up crime against humanity, when you consider that these are not vaccines, but actually cause a lot of damage.
Yeah, so I mean, there's a lot there, right?
So first of all, with regards to these vaccines, they're not vaccines.
They're gene therapies, right?
Those are legally distinct.
And, you know, I'm waiting for someone to bring the misbranding lawsuit that needs to be brought on that.
But, you know, these gene therapies...
You've got to understand some of these permanently alter your DNA. Permanently.
There is no temporary.
And, you know, they found that a lot of these have DNA, pretty heavy DNA loads.
A study out of Europe showed that there is about a 30% DNA load in some of these vials, these COVID vaccine vials.
Well, RNA, they say, most likely does not reverse transcribe.
Now, it can. We've shown that.
But traditional messenger RNA typically may not.
The DNA does.
There's no question that the DNA does.
It changes you and it may change you permanently.
And further, not only changes you permanently, but even on the RNA side, they're not using mRNA.
One of the things we found recently, I think this is really a fascinating and important point, Vim.
So we found that they say mRNA.
Well, when they said mRNA for the COVID vaccines, everybody thought that meant messenger RNA, right?
Because that's typically what it's used for.
It wasn't. They lied.
M is also the first letter in MOD, M-O-D, as in modified or modification.
Well, MOD RNA is the actual ingredient that's in these vaccines.
MOD RNA is not natural messenger RNA. It's modified RNA created in a lab and modified to be more durable and more concrete.
So it goes in and arguably has a much higher chance of reverse transcribing into your genome.
So anyways, the long story short is a lot of this stuff looks like it's going to permanently alter your DNA. And, you know, first of all, if that's happening and you don't know, that, I would argue, is a crime against humanity in and of itself because they're changing what you are without you knowing it.
Yeah. Further, you know, they're talking about mechanisms of administration.
Whether it's mosquitoes, you can't control that.
Once it's in the air, once it's in bugs, I mean, you can't control where that's going.
So there's no intention of getting informed consent.
They have no intention of it.
Now, the real question is, given the laws that say you can't do this without informed consent in countries like the U.S., How do they plan on unleashing this?
And that's what people should be asking themselves.
And? The and is, I think, pretty clear.
We have Gates and everybody very excited about the next pandemic.
You look at the WHO. The WHO is working on their new WHO treaty where they can take over and run the world.
You look at the UN. The UN is pushing for emergency powers.
Remember, this always comes down to calling it an emergency.
It's got to be an emergency.
Emergency, we're going to take over.
But it's only for a minute, right?
Two weeks to flatten the curve.
You remember that? Yeah, yeah.
We're still dealing with fallout from those two weeks.
I mean, why is it that, like, this idea of, like, the UN taking over, how could there even be a single individual in government that is okay with that?
I mean, can't we take over our own issues?
Why do we need the UN coming in?
Haven't we dealt with our issues pretty well in the last seven years without the help of the UN? Well, I mean, I don't think we've dealt with anything very well in the last seven years, but I mean, we certainly did better than we would have with the UN. I mean, that's a mess.
You've got to understand that I don't think anybody that's okay with this is okay with it because they think it's going to be better for the public.
They think it's going to be better for them.
So this is where we come to this whole question of who do the candidates, who do the politicians represent?
Now, it's funny to me because Donald Trump's campaign is based on America first.
How the hell do you oppose that?
But they do.
They do. And a lot of these guys are not America first.
They're against the idea of putting America's priorities over the priorities of other countries.
And what you got to understand is these guys are not representing our nation and our people.
They're representing their own interests.
Most of the politicians in Washington.
So let's think about this, Rob.
You go to Washington.
Well, you've been hired by a group of, if you're in the House, four or five hundred thousand people, if you're in the Senate, however many million, to represent them and their interests.
You go there and you start sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine, a nation with a regiment of Nazis, literal Nazis in their military, for a war that has absolutely no strategic value for the United States.
Mm-hmm. And you do so despite the fact that we have out-of-control inflation, the collapsing economy, and all that money that you're sending there you have to print.
So it's going to be on the back of your citizens.
What part of that is representing the citizens' interests?
Nobody supports this war.
And if you talk to most people at this point, they've used, well, no, the politicians, they don't represent us, but what are we going to do about it?
So nobody believes these guys actually represent them anymore.
So who do they represent?
Where are these interests from?
It's not for the people.
We've just become immunized, if you will, like the vaccine pun there, against the idea that somehow these guys are supposed to represent us.
We don't even think about it anymore.
We just accept. You go to Washington, you're a crook.
And it's universal.
There's a handful of good guys in Washington.
Most of them suck, especially the rhino side.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, okay, this is what's mind blowing to me is that our government is not functioning anymore.
Obviously, it's not functioning.
It's not working for we the people.
These are individuals that are clearly working for we the elite, as opposed to we the people.
How do we get to this point?
Because we're supposed to have checks and balances in our government.
The legislature is supposed to keep an eye on the judicial branch and not allow them to do the things that have been going on right now with the persecution, the political persecution of somebody like Donald Trump.
whether you like him or not, it's pretty clear that this man is being politically persecuted because in a comparative analysis, there's a lot of scumbag criminals that are, you know, for example, people that are getting found with like enough fentanyl in their trunk to kill 8 million Americans and those people are let out on bail, those people are able to, you know, skip the country and escape where they literally have a holocaust in their trunk, right? Yet somebody
like Donald Trump is politically persecuted. Somebody like Rudy Giuliani is politically persecuted. But if you're Hunter Biden, you could have piles of cocaine in the White House and you won't even get a slap on the wrist.
Like, how do we get to this point where government has no checks and balances and is no longer functioning as a functional government?
Well, I mean, we saw a huge breakdown and a huge collapse of any sort of checks and balances with COVID. But that was part of it, right?
I mean, the Great Reset. You've got to tear it down to rebuild it.
That was intentional. But before that, we had 100-plus years of destruction of our Constitution.
Vem, think about this.
You've got guys who had a Tea Party that led to a revolution and the battle cry of taxation without representation over a minor Tea Tax.
Mm-hmm. Imagine if you told those guys that they had to lock down in their houses for 14 days and then wear a muzzle mask for a year.
I mean, they would have had their muskets out shooting people right and left.
Now, you think about that.
That's our founding fathers.
That's how our nation came together.
Now you compare that to where we are today.
It's not even close. This has been a slow slide.
And I would say, you know, I got this kind of attorney point of view on this.
But, you know, I would say that the beginning of the end came with the massive, massive expansion of powers that occurred in the early 20th century in the administrative state.
See, the unelected fourth branch of government is one of the greatest problems.
Whether you're Congress, whether...
Everybody's accountable to that fourth branch, but nobody in that fourth branch is accountable to anybody.
The administrators say you can't fire guys when they don't do their jobs, and they're immune from lawsuits, and they're not elected, they're not accountable, and there is absolutely nothing you can do with this.
Meanwhile, we see these guys in certain agencies, your three-letter agencies, your DOD, CIA, DIA, yet the CIA arguably shooting Kennedy.
I'm getting away with it.
You've got the CIA, the DOD, both heavily funding the creation of SARS-CoV-2.
We've got the documents.
I can show you the paperwork for grants.
They create this disease in a lab.
Nobody's investigating it.
I can't find any of these Republicans.
I just saw Rand Paul today.
I'm sending this letter, and I'm going to send it to Merrick Garland, and it's calling for an investigation into whether Anthony Fauci perjured himself.
Who the hell cares?
Anthony Fauci belongs in jail under Gitmo for the rest of his life, but guess what?
He's not in the government right now.
He's retired. And do you really think Merrick Garland's gonna do anything?
I mean, the guy who investigated Hunter Biden by telling the FBI they couldn't talk to Hunter Biden?
I mean, this guy's the most corrupt AG in history, and you're gonna send him a letter requesting an investigation of a guy that no longer works for the government.
Meanwhile, nobody's asking.
What about the DOD funding and involvement of the creation of SARS-CoV-2?
What about the DOD involvement and funding of the creation of the vaccine for SARS-CoV-2?
Question. So you're faulting Rand Paul in terms of he's not doing enough.
It seems like he's just kind of placating his audience, but really not doing as much as he can with the powers that he has.
Well, let me be real clear.
I like Rand Paul.
Mm-hmm. And I've been beating him and Jim Jordan and a couple of these other guys up a bit lately.
And the reason I've been doing it is because I generally like them, but they love to shoot their mouth off and get press.
But when it comes to doing anything substantive, show me where the letter is that you're sending, asking for them to cease and desist the use of the death jab.
Where is the letter asking for the disclosure of the results of the BEST database that shows the safety issues that the FDA is aware of with regards to these vaccines?
Where are these simple, simple investigative tools that they could be using that they're not?
See, the problem is that they love to be the Freedom Caucus.
They love to stand up and tell you that they're big and bad.
Well, you know, our people hate Fauci, so I'm going to send a letter about him.
That'll get me some headlines. I don't want headlines.
What do you mean you need to investigate whether he perjured himself?
How much more clear can it be he perjured himself?
He could have at least called for criminal prosecution, not an investigation.
It's like, we're going to have another hearing on Hunter Biden.
Why? Why? Just send out articles of impeachment.
I'm tired of hearing you tell me you're going to investigate here.
They do it for media.
They do it to pander.
They do it to placate. We need people to actually take action.
Where was the support for Lauren Boebert's impeachment articles?
Where was the support for Merrick Garland impeachment?
Where are they? Where are these things?
Where are real decisive actions that are going to do something?
You can tell me, well, there's no chance of those going through.
So what? So what?
They impeached Trump 84 times.
So what? Well, where were these guys?
You know, I saw Jim Jordan the other day.
And I want you, again, I'm giving the guys who are on our side a hard time because these are the best guys we got.
And if we can't fix them, who can we fix?
Jim Jordan. He just the other day says, well, we're going to withhold funding for the DOD if they don't, you know, their abortion, trans stuff, whatever, or something like that, right?
Well, Jim Jordan, I was in his district until we redistricted just recently.
So, you know, he knows that I exist.
And, you know, I went on and did all sorts of shows during the debt ceiling negotiations saying, hey, You want to pass debt ceiling?
Pass it with the provision that the DOJ is defunded if they don't relent on trying to do this garbage prosecution against Trump.
Pass it with the provision that no money can be used to pay the new 87,000 IRS agents.
How about getting rid of the green new debt?
You could have put some teeth in.
You want to pass the debt ceiling?
But no, we couldn't do anything.
Instead, Jim Jordan tells the guys that we're holding out, no, you've got to vote for this.
No, you didn't. You could have did something with it, but now once it's too late, now you want to run your mouth and try and take credit like you're doing something good.
And I'm just sick of the hypocrisy and the lies.
It's all about making people feel like there's some sort of representation when there isn't.
It's crazy. It's crazy.
Now, in terms of Trump, though, do you feel like Trump has done enough?
Or do you have any commentary in terms of how he's approached this whole situation and the things that he talks about and the things that he doesn't?
Like, he keeps praising the jab, even though we know the jab is harmful.
What's going on there? Well, I'll tell you what.
I mean, I've been 100% clear that I think he needs to go to battle with this jab, and I think it's a setup, and I think it's not good that he hasn't.
That said, he's quit praising it, and he did say he was going to investigate big pharma and health issues.
So, you know, I'll tell you how I view that.
I view that as, you know, that Donald doesn't want to have a direct fight with big pharma right now.
Which, frankly, the guy is getting a hit from so many directions.
So there are two people right now that have spoken out on some issues I care about, and that's Trump and Kennedy.
Now, Kennedy, I disagree with epically on gun control and abortion.
And those are big issues for me.
But Bobby, God bless him, has done a great job on a lot of their stuff.
Trump is my man on just about everything, except for he hasn't spoken out strongly enough on the jabs.
Here's the thing, though. If Trump is elected again, Trump knows what the deep state looks like.
He knows who he's got to fight, and I don't think he's going to go...
He's going to go in there with a chip on his shoulder, and he's going to clean some house, I've got to believe.
Trump can do some amazing things if he gets in there.
Now, The guy, I see a headline today that, you know, they're talking about his third indictment on January 6th.
How much can you ask the guy to fight right now?
I kind of, you know, I mean, he's getting hit from so many directions.
And I don't think, you know, I've said before, and I'm probably not popularizing myself.
I don't know who it is that's around him that's giving him the advice he's getting.
But I would certainly take a different approach.
Obviously, I love the Donald and support him, but I think his approach is very good in some areas, but needs to be much more focused on issues in American greatness.
And I think that he's falling victim.
You know, they keep going after him.
And his response needs to be something along the lines of, listen...
They're attacking me again.
It's all garbage. It's an outrage.
Here's why. But Let's keep focused on making America great again.
Let's keep focused on American freedom.
Let's keep focused on the issues.
I think that's where he's...
Because Trump is a fighter, and that's what people love about him.
You know, he fought back.
I think that he's doing a pretty good job with the situation he's given.
I don't think anybody could do much better.
But the guy's fighting for his life.
I mean, these bad guys, he's enemy number one to these bad guys.
And yeah, I don't know that, yeah, I'm playing a little bit of Monday morning quarterback, you know, because if you're sitting on the inside, it's a lot harder to sit in that seat than it is when you're sitting on the outside.
This issue of him getting constantly attacked, though, this is something that in 2016, when he became president, his entire presidency was filled with constant attacks.
You could argue that these constant attacks are basically stopping the man from doing his job, which happened for about four years.
He complains that he wasn't able to see his job through, especially with the release of this COVID virus.
Quote, unquote, you know, plandemic or whatever, you know, we call it here.
It seems as though everything was thrown at him to prevent him from doing his job.
And now everything is being thrown at him to prevent him being from president again.
How is that on its own not a variety of treasonous acts?
Because the people have made it clear on a majority level that they like this man.
But this man keeps getting attacked and they're trying to prevent the will of the people.
Hence and therefore isn't that alone on its own, on its face, a treasonous act?
Okay, so I would argue that there have been a couple instances that I could point to from 2016 going forward that I would say would potentially qualify legally as treasonous.
I do think that there's been a couple times in regards to what was done that might qualify legally as treason.
But I think, you know, one of the things that you said there that I think is critical, and I don't want to let go, is that, you know, we talk about the attacks on Trump.
So this new one, this new indictment, you know, is based on January 6th.
These attacks are coming from the Republicans.
One of the things that I think Trump needs to recognize is that the Republicans are probably a more dangerous enemy than the Democrats.
Because everybody knows the Democrats are an enemy.
Nobody realizes how big of an enemy the Republicans are.
You know, Trump is raising money through WinRed.
That's a disaster. Win Red hates him.
Win Red is the Mitch McConnell, Rona Daniels super PAC. I wouldn't raise a dime to them.
In fact, any money that I was to give to President Trump, if I can't give it to him directly, it's not going because they give it to General Flynn.
He's got a super PAC. But, you know, Wind Red's a disaster.
The thing about this is, though, is here's why I say that.
So January 6th, where are the tapes?
I thought McCarthy was going to release those tapes publicly.
I haven't seen them. I don't know.
Maybe you got a copy. You're the big shot media guy.
You got copies? I keep looking for these tapes.
So let's talk about January 6th.
You have a riot that was started by the FBI and started by the Capitol Police and done to...
It was instigated. It was started.
I mean, it sounds like entrapment to me for a lot of these people.
And then after the FBI starts a riot with their informants, they try and blame Trump for it.
Well, you know what?
We're the investigations.
Yeah. Where is Mitch McConnell on this?
He was against releasing these tapes.
Mitch McConnell is, I mean, he calls himself a Republican.
He is not. God bless the people.
And by the way, I think that's part of the reason that Rand Paul has to hold back some, because they're both from Kentucky.
And McConnell's this dirty, dirty politician.
I mean, he'll slab you in the back as quick as he can.
You know, he's well known for, you know, He's skulking around in the bushes and getting his enemies from behind.
You don't show your loyalty to him because it's the way a lot of these crooked politicians are.
They don't have the gonads to face you man to man.
But these guys, they could eliminate all of this real easy.
How about this?
How about you say no more legislation until all Trump indictments For January 6th are gone and all January 6th prisoners are released.
We're going to cease and desist passing any funding of any type legislation.
We've got the majority in the House.
We could do it. Well, shut her down.
Shut her down until you do it.
No, no, we won't do that.
We've got this defense authorization bill.
We're going to focus on abortion in the military and, I don't know, maybe some trans stuff in the military, which are both really important issues.
But they're distractions compared to things like how many people are going to die from the COVID jabs.
And don't get me wrong, I am big anti-abortion.
Big anti-abortion.
But they're going to focus on something where...
Way too many babies are killed a year, but nowhere near the number of babies are killed a year is the people that are being killed by these COVID vaccines.
But they won't take a stand on that.
I mean, they could hold up that legislation for some substantive changes.
Okay, we're going to pass this DOD authorization after you pull all funding from Ukraine, because why the hell are we wasting money on that?
No more ammunition, no more anything to Ukraine.
And also, we demand that DOJ cease and desist any sort of persecution against the president.
They could do that.
No one's talking about it though, are they?
Wow. Now, this abortion in the military, tell me a little bit more about that.
What are they trying to push? Well, we've got a situation now where our crooked, crooked brass in the military will pay for you to fly around and get your genital mutilation surgery.
Give you time off.
They'll pay for the surgery.
Then they'll pay for the lifelong health issues that you have after the surgery.
We're going to promote mental illness in our soldiers because that seems like a great idea.
But If you want, they'll pay to fly you around to go kill your baby, to do whatever you got to do there.
But, you know, if you were to say, hey, grandma died, can I have a couple days off?
Nope. I mean, you get time off everything for to go have an abortion, to have all these different things happen in our military.
You know, paid time off is gender-affirming care, all this nonsense.
But, you know, if you got something that's legitimate, like an actual family emergency or something like that, all the old rules apply still.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's crazy because we've been doing a lot of research on this topic of abortions, right?
And it seems as though a lot of time these abortions lead to lifelong trauma for the person that has done the abortion.
And then they also have trouble having kids.
And then you have this thing of, you know, which is this new phenomenon based upon, you know, feminism 3.0 or whatever, where you have all these unmarried women that are having trouble having babies that are now getting into their late 30s, early 40s.
And it just seems as though society in general has been so skewed.
Depression on the rise on a massive level, which kind of makes sense because if our nature is to couple up and have babies and build families, and we go against that nature because we have these propaganda machines selling us this sex in the city lifestyle, which is also very interesting because the people that wrote Sex and the City actually came out and said that that is a miserable way to live.
Nobody wants to be a 45-year-old cat lady.
That, you know, what we professed was actually incorrect.
It is not the way to happiness.
But nonetheless, this seems to be part of the culture.
So I don't know. Wanted to see if you had any comments about all those statements I just made.
Listen, you know, for millions of years, humanity survived on the basic premise of a nuclear family.
I mean, we survived, we thrived, we did well, we expanded, we grew, we evolved as a species, became better, stronger, what have you.
In the late 20th century, we decided that that was no good.
And so Lyndon Johnson decided to incentivize the African-American families to come apart.
He incentivized dad to be gone from the picture because he got more welfare money if he had babies without dad being there.
He did everything he could to destroy the families.
And the result was that he was very successful in certain areas, right?
And let me explain why I say the African-American families.
The welfare system as it was created in those days was largely being used by African-Americans.
They were just coming out of segregation, you know, so they were trying to get on their feet.
They hadn't really, I mean, we're talking just during the process of desegregation still.
So these guys are trying to get on their feet.
And so the welfare system wasn't used by the largely nuclear family, self-employed or employed white families.
It was primarily in the African-American communities.
So when we incentivized by giving extra money to unwed mothers versus wed, that really had a disproportionate impact in the black communities.
It destroyed the black families.
Well, this had the effect.
Of, you know, causing a lot of problems within the communities.
You know, part of the reason that I think that we're seeing that we saw so many issues, you know, everybody tries to blame the color of your skin for crime for this, for that.
It wasn't the color of our skin.
It was the segregation that we white people imposed on black people by incentivizing the destruction on their family.
See, the racism never went away.
The racism never went away.
The Democrat Party, which was the party that opposed the end of segregation and opposed the end of slavery, then instituted these policies that caused damage to minority families.
And it's my opinion that this was one of the most racist things that's ever occurred.
Because instead of supporting families coming together and promoting their kids being healthy and positive, we destroyed it.
And so you saw the perpetuation of poverty, right?
And once you get onto the welfare system, dad's gone, you make more money on the welfare system with unwed kids.
Well, that becomes a self-perpetuating cycle, right?
The kids grew up that way.
They learned that way. And so they did that.
And none of these people...
And it spread.
It spread to the white communities.
It spread to these. But we certainly...
I think this was a racist program to start out with.
I think it was a racist, racist thing.
Because instead of...
We could have easily said that there's an incentive or at least equal amount of money to married families and divorced families.
But we actually gave extra money When it was a single mother family.
I think that was a racist policy designed to damage some of the minority households.
At the end of the day, what we've seen is where you destroy the nuclear family, there's problems.
I believe that in America everybody has a right to live as they choose to live, right?
Black, white, yellow, green, gay, straight, whatever.
You choose to live your way and that's fine and you get the right to do that.
But the reality is just because you have the right to do it doesn't mean we shouldn't promote what's most effective.
What's been most effective for thousands of years has been the traditional nuclear family.
So why in the hell Do we keep trying to destroy it?
Why do we keep tearing it down?
Why do we have Pride Month?
Why do we have this month?
Why do we have that month? When do you have Straight Marriage Month?
When is that? I don't care if you want to be gay.
Go ahead. I'm not offended by you being gay.
You do that if you want. But why do we got to celebrate it?
What's good coming out of that?
What, you're going to be a better parent?
Well, you can't be a parent.
It takes a boy and a girl to make a baby.
You've already destroyed the concept of a nuclear family if you've got two boys and two girls with a baby.
I do think that when the traditional family is not supported, and I think from a legislator, I'm a lawyer, right?
From a legal standpoint, you've got to have a mechanism to deal with long-term gay couples.
I've got no problem with the idea of gay unions.
If you want to call it a marriage, that's a church thing for me.
So if your church does that, fine.
Mine doesn't. But you've got to have a legal mechanism to deal with that.
But in terms of what we can do, That's one thing.
The law has to allow you to have that freedom.
What we should do is an entirely different thing, and we have to promote God's teaching, nuclear traditional family, all these different things, if we want any sort of stable society.
Wow, wow. You know, I'm going to bring up a controversial thing here, the Kardashians, right?
So, again, we do a lot of blood money interviews, and one of the things that we've heard about is this Kardashian culture has essentially, like, encouraged a lot of single women to stay away from...
To white men. This is like a real thing, by the way, because they follow the Kardashian mold, right?
And then you look at, you know, what's happening in society and culture.
Like, there's this anti-white thing that is not only happening through the media, but it is happening through TV shows like the Kardashians.
I mean, is this whole thing a big grand plan to essentially destabilize the country, destroy the family?
Really what some of the issues you talked about in terms of what has been happening in the black community via welfare programs, invading pretty much every other sector of society.
What do you think's going on there overall?
I hate racism.
I don't care what it is.
I don't like racism.
Racism is real simple to me.
If I look at you and make a judgment based on the color of your skin, I'm a racist, right?
So if you're a racist, I got no use for you.
I don't care what you look like.
Yeah, I don't get the right to make that judgment.
So is there racism?
Absolutely. These guys are pushing racism all the time.
That's what CRT is.
That's what all these diversity programs that are focused on the color of your skin are.
Whenever I look at someone and make a legal judgment or a moral judgment or another judgment based on the color of their skin, I'm a racist.
So you can't do that.
We can't allow that. We have to fight for that.
Now, the reality is that, you know, I've talked, I've got a lot of, I'm working really hard on a lot of unity projects.
Because I think we've got to come together.
What you see on the other side, as we see the left trying to divide us based on the color of our skin, our gender, our orientation, all these different things.
Listen, you live your way.
Keep it out of my face if it's going to be something that I don't like, but you got the right to do what you want to do.
As far as color of skin, none of us have the right to discriminate based on that.
Listen, God made us look like we look.
Who the hell cares what color you are?
Only the left. But they keep trying to destroy it.
They've tried to destroy the black family.
One of the things I think particularly with my African-American brothers and sisters, And I say brothers and sisters because we all bleed red.
And if you're American, you're my brother or sister.
We see this continued push to focus on color rather than content of character.
I'm a huge MLK fan.
Content of character, color of skin.
Actually, if there's anyone that I might like as much as MLK, it's Rosa Parks because I love the idea of this diminutive little lady having the courage to do what she did.
No, I'm not going to the back of the bus.
Go to hell. I love that.
Because we have a long history, segregation, racism, things like that, we have to be aware of that.
And I think that we ought to, on a moral level, work to help elevate communities that have been victim of that, but not on a legal level.
Legally, we cannot discriminate.
And morally, where there's been segregation that we can recognize and fix, we need to work on it.
But beyond that, We have to recognize that the only way to move forward from that history is to move forward.
I can't go back.
I always get a boot out of this reparations.
Why? What did I do?
Why am I going to pay you money for something that I don't even know if anybody in my family ever did?
I can tell you, based on my family history...
What I know, and some of it's missing.
So I'll tell you my family history.
I got some immigrants that came in, I think, in probably the early 20th century.
I don't know. And I got some Indians, American Indians, some Native American.
Well, I don't think my Indian blood was owning any slaves.
And I don't think my European blood was here early enough to own any slaves.
What am I going to pay you reparations for?
I wasn't even alive back then.
That's the stupidest thing ever.
I got an idea. How about we quit using the color of our skin as an excuse?
How about we quit dodging the idea of self-responsibility, personal responsibility?
And how about we empower everybody, black, white, yellow, red, to be successful?
To stand on their own two feet.
To do these good things. That's what I think we got to do.
I think there's way too much division.
When we look at...
I got to be honest with you, Vam.
I mean, you know me well enough off camera to know that I'm about as pop culture aware as...
Well, I'm not.
I have no idea. So some total knowledge I got on Kardashians is that they make a lot of money and they seem a little flaky to me.
But I don't know much about him.
Here's the thing.
I mean, there's no way to say what I'm about to say without people coming at me.
But this is a fact, right?
This is a fact. It's an ugly fact, right?
Because I've heard it over and over again.
You have this culture of, you know, essentially Kardashians pushing this idea of, like, dating Black men, right?
So you have this, like...
A very large group of young women that are influenced by the Kardashians, right?
And they, for some reason, have looked at it like, you know, dating white men bad, dating black men good, you know?
Which is just, A, it's like highly racist.
B, I won't get into too much of this topic, but I don't think...
As far as the interviews we've done, I don't think they've been satisfied with the outcomes.
It seems as though a lot of women are realizing that maybe that was part of the brainwashing.
And again, it just seems like a lot of brainwashing.
It seems like being racist against one group of people, elevating another group of people.
Very odd. All of it just seems very odd.
To basically say, again, the attack on white men, the attack on quote-unquote toxic masculinity, white men good, in this case black, sorry, white men bad, black men good.
I mean, it just seems very skewed.
And then you couple that with what's happening overseas, where apparently we're supporting Nazis right now.
All of it just seems ridiculous.
I mean, it seems like we're in a bizarro world.
Well, we are in Bizarro world.
And I guess, you know, I'm just going to apologize to you, Vem.
I just don't know anything about the Kardashians.
You know, I mean, to me, if you want to date a white guy, date a black guy, date a white girl, black girl, whatever, I don't care one bit about that.
I mean, you know, when I was a young guy, I mean, I didn't care one bit about that.
If you were a pretty girl, you're a pretty girl.
Your turn-ons are your turn-ons and, you know, whatever.
Yeah, that's all good, right?
You know, I mean, I think that, to my mind, you know, some of the most beautiful women in history have been, you know, black, Latino, this, that, and other.
I'm married to a white woman.
But I just don't care.
I mean, I don't care one bit about who you're dating.
It makes no difference to me.
What I do think though, and I don't know enough about what Kardashians do to really comment on it.
What I do think though, is that whenever you look at someone and you try and push race over content of character, I think it's evil and rotten.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
No. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Why would I believe anybody based on the color of their skin?
I don't care what it is.
I just don't care.
I guess that was my point, is that, like, all of a sudden, you know, the white skin has become a bad thing.
But the parallel that I'm seeing there, this is something that we hear from government a lot.
And the fact that, you know, you have one of the biggest shows, one of the biggest personalities also pushing that same agenda.
You know, knowing what we know about brainwashing and really manipulating the public through media, it seems as though that there's a parallel there that's hard to ignore.
But the thing that I'm finding really shocking in all of this is that's kind of guises like being woke and open while on the same token, we are funding Nazis in Ukraine.
And I just wonder, these groups like the ACLU, the ADL, how vocal have they been about the idea of never again and the fact that we are funding Nazis?
Well, that's a big one for me, right?
So this anti-Semitism is mind-blowing to me.
I mean, we are embracing racism everywhere, whether it's anti-Semitism, whether it's anti-black sentiment, anti-white sentiment, anti-this, anti-that.
I don't care where it is.
It's all evil. And you've got the World Economic Forum.
I mean, it is the world economic forum.
Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, all the global leaders, and the chief scientific advisor to Klaus Schwab is Yuval Noah Harari, who keeps talking about, if only Hitler had the tech I'm inventing, think what he could do.
That guy's comments, his pro-Hitler comments, are so shocking to me.
And the fact that Barack Obama and Gates and Zuckerberg, all these guys, you know, they talk highly about this guy. I mean, if Donald Trump said one of the things this guy said, he'd be, I mean, putting him in asylum.
And they should, because this guy's nuts.
But you've got Harari out there making pro-Hitler statements.
I mean, let's mention Kanye West.
Kanye West went on the Alex Jones show and basically said he loves Hitler and all these kind of things.
But he was trying to say more from a Christian view that, like, Christians are supposed to love everyone, even love thy enemy, even if the person's evil.
Yet, you have somebody like Uvaldi Harari essentially saying the same things, but he's saying it from a nefarious way.
It wasn't like Kanye West was saying, I love Hitler, we should kill X amount of people, blah, blah, blah.
He was trying to be more Christian, yes.
He sounded like a lunatic and all that stuff.
But nonetheless, the core of his message was supposed to be from a Christian point of view versus, oh, I love this person because he killed X amount of people, which seems to be Yuvaldi Harari's message.
I'm wondering if you have any comments about that statement.
So I could say, with all honesty, I have to this day never heard the full quote about Kanye, but I'm going to just be real unambiguous about this.
Hitler is the most evil creature that's ever existed.
Everything that he ever did or has ever done is appalling beyond words.
And to be perfectly honest, the only good thing about Hitler was his death.
He was a monster.
He was evil. And I don't know how I can make that any less ambiguous than that.
I don't know.
But what I do know is because I feel so strongly about that, when I hear a guy who's given accolades for talking about Hitler, Adolf Hitler, who murdered, slaughtered, killed, abused millions, And no one says anything.
He keeps getting invited back to Harvard and all these Ivy League schools to talk.
He keeps getting invited to TED Talks.
He keeps getting invited to all these things.
Nobody's talking about the fact that this guy is saying positive things about Adolf Hitler.
Now, I don't know what Kanye said about it.
It doesn't matter to me because, again, pop culture is just not my thing.
What I do know Is that if you say anything positive about Adolf Hitler, you're a psychopath.
The only positive thing I can say is he's dead.
That's the only positive thing I can say about that guy.
And yet we have this guy doing this while we're pushing and sending money to a country.
Where we know they have a well-known and well-established Nazi regime in their military.
And by the way, this Nazi regime, just to be clear, also goes after the LGBTQ community, right?
They are pretty open.
So how does, like, a Barack Obama, how do all these quote-unquote woke individuals that are pushing, you know, rewriting of our history and stuff, how, I mean, how does that, how do you reconcile that?
Of, like, supporting somebody that is, ironically, Israeli, and essentially supporting Hitler, hence, and therefore supporting the murder of Jews, Gypsies, minorities, and saying that, you know, he wishes Hitler had done better.
I mean, why isn't the Mossad going after this individual?
It's a great question. I mean, you know, at the end of the day, wherever I look, I see these guys who are just absolutely evil.
And nobody's getting called out for support.
You know, it's an interesting thing.
Rush used to say, Rush Limbaugh, God rest his soul, used to say, you can always tell what the left's doing by seeing what they're accusing you of.
And that's so true, right?
So they love to call patriots and conservatives racists.
Meanwhile, they've got Yuval Noah Harari over there praising Hitler.
They've got all these CRT programs that are absolutely telling you that you've got to judge someone by the color of their skin.
They've got all these different programs over there.
I mean, these are the most bigoted people on the planet, but then they want to call you a racist.
You look at what they're doing.
They say discriminating on religion.
You know, if you're Christian, they go after you.
They don't like Christians. They do whatever they can to destroy and corrupt and Co-op Christianity.
But at the same time, they say that we're xenophobic.
You can see wherever they go, it's the opposite.
They like to accuse...
I got a real boot out of some of the recent accusations.
They tried to this past weekend, they talked about Bobby Kennedy trying to tie him with anti-Semitism because he talked about a scientific study.
I've got the study.
I actually reposted on Twitter that study and a bunch of other stuff related to this.
There is zero question that COVID impacted certain races more than others, and I would argue that based on that, that the vaccines are probably more dangerous in some races than others, because the vaccines create spike proteins in your body, and if the spike protein causes problems in COVID, it causes problems elsewhere.
So, is it a fair thing to say that we should study this?
I mean, the people who created SARS-CoV-2 in the lab in Wuhan, China, created a disease that has killed millions of people.
Is it too much to think that they might be racist?
Yeah. I have the Project SALIS
document from the Department of Defense.
It showed that breakthrough infections were more common in Native Americans, Latinos, and African Americans than in, like, Caucasians.
It's just, I mean, it's the document.
I mean, it sounds like eugenics to me.
Sounds like eugenics to me. Sounds like, hey, let's put, like, abortion clinics in all the black and Mexican neighborhoods.
Sounds like a continuation of that.
Only with abortion clinics, you have the option.
With this, you don't have an option, it seems like.
I mean, eugenics as well was hugely embraced by the Nazis.
I mean, the Nazis loved eugenics.
And, you know, I mean, given the fact that we've got a bunch of people who are praising the Nazis, it's not a surprise.
I just... I do not understand why these people won't fight against racism.
I mean, even if you're a leftist loon, how do you not see the racism that's occurring?
How can you be that blind and stupid?
I mean, because it's pretty darn obvious what's occurring here.
And when you've got people, the idea that these snowflake wussies that go to things like TED Talks, And you see them sitting there all smarmy in their audience.
This is where we're going to get enlightened by some very smart guy like Bill Gates or Yuval Noah Harari.
And then they come out there and start praising Hitler or using the vaccines in mosquitoes to ensure that there's no informed consent.
And these morons in the audience are clapping and yay us!
I mean, it's just incredible to me.
It's incredible to me.
The worst kind of stupid is the stupid that doesn't realize it's stupid.
And that's what these people are.
Yeah, yeah. Tom, I know you're short on time here, but I want to have one last major question for you.
So, RFK versus Trump, I mean, that looks optically as, like, the worst nightmare of the deep state.
How do you get out of that one?
You got one guy that's basically saying, you know, my uncle was killed by the CIA, being pretty vocal about it.
He's also saying that this is a death jab, being pretty vocal about it, right?
Yeah. He's also being pretty vocal about, you know, most likely his own father was killed by the CIA. You know, whoever's researched the RFK assassination, I mean, Sirhan Sirhan had a seven shooter, but yet there's evidence of 13 bullet holes.
So there, you know, A lot of shadiness with that one, too.
Now, you got that guy, and then you got the guy, Trump, that essentially wants to shatter the deep state into a million pieces.
It's almost like 1960 election all over again with JFK saying, hey, you know, I want to shatter the CIA into a million pieces because he saw them as problematic.
If you are the deep state, how do you get out of this?
I mean, I'm sure assassinations, everything's on the table, but how do you deal with this RFK versus Trump issue?
It's almost like their worst nightmare coming to fruition.
Yeah, and the greatest possible case scenario, I mean, as far as the primaries go, those are my two people, right?
I hope, you know, Bobby's forcing the Democrats into a very, very uncomfortable position.
And God bless him for doing so.
I mean, I cannot tell you, you know, in the primaries, vote Kennedy, vote Trump.
It's just that simple.
No question about it.
You know, we have got to break this deep state up.
Our country is, but what are they going to do about it?
I mean, well, Trump, they're trying to put in jail or to indict him out of place.
But the problem is, is every time they do that, he gets more popular.
And, you know, it's an interesting thing because, you know, I've seen some of the Twitter guys and they've talked a bit about, you know, and some of these guys are like diehard DeSantis.
They keep going after Trump.
We just got to support him because they're going after him.
And, you know, it's kind of backfiring what they're doing.
No. That, you know, there's nothing overtly nefarious occurring ahead of time.
I think that it'll come down to whether Bobby can have a big enough, active enough, get out the vote, ballot harvesting thing for the primaries.
And on Trump's side, they're going to have to clean those voter rolls, and they're going to have to do a lot of ballot harvesting, and they're going to have to do a lot of supervision, push for county, local people to say hell no on some of these machines.
You know, a handful of counties around the country that are going to decide this election.
And the question is, can we clean them up enough?
Now, I'll tell you, you know, we got to be aware because it won't surprise me, you know, if we focus enough and it looks like we're making gains, they'll just shift the county.
I mean, they'll fight in other counties, right?
They'll cheat more than somewhere else.
But we've got to really be smart about this and they've got to be strategic because this isn't anything to do with an organic election anymore.
And, you know, make no mistake, Schwab said the fourth industrial revolution is winner takes all.
He meant it. Yeah, yeah.
It is winner takes all.
For the viewers, I mean, they got their robots, they got their AI. I mean, Terminator 2 is here.
This is what we're facing.
If we lose this, if we let these people have control, I mean, they made it pretty clear that they want to get rid of 8 billion of us.
So you're pretty much like, this is life and death for your children, for real.
Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, at the end of the day, we've got a lot of kids sick and dying from these vaccines.
We've got a lot more than they're going to be.
I just found a couple studies about Transmission, shedding in these.
RNA particles being transmissible through breath.
So, you know, you exhale your mRNA and infect the next guy, right?
Talk about a reason for social distancing.
But, you know, it's a scary time.
And it's one of those things where we either unify and fight back for freedom.
Or all is lost.
And the other thing that I don't get about them is, you know, we talked about all these different groups.
People who are different than one another based on all sorts of things.
You know, maybe you're different gender, different sexual orientation or different color or different this or different that.
In America, we were always able to come together for one thing.
Freedom. Right?
You can live your life.
I don't have to agree with it.
I have every right to speak out about it, to disagree with it.
But at the end of the day, you have the right to live your life.
Now the question is, how did we get to the point where we can't come together for freedom anymore?
Now, the people who are advocating for these leftist policies are actually They're advocating against their own ability to live their life the way that they are.
You know, the people that look to China as a model, well, you don't have a trans community in China like you do here.
You want to talk about freedom?
You want to talk about being censored, being blocked?
Talk about China. You know, the idea that we're going to somehow...
We've misled people into thinking that they're somehow going to get greater freedom by giving their freedom up, and it's just insane.
Yeah, totally. This has been amazing.
It's always amazing to have you on our podcast, Tom.
Is there anything we didn't touch upon that in closing you'd like to mention, URLs, any way to support you?
Please. We've relaunched TomRenz.com.
We're getting ready to relaunch our law website.
We're doing a lot of disability work if you've been injured or any disability, whatever.
The information and data that we gather doing that work is going to help us with lawsuits on the COVID jabs and other such things.
We're doing a bunch of work there.
We need support. We got our sub stack.
We got our locals channel.
We got a, I mean, We're everywhere, man.
So just go to TomRens.com, find out where we are, figure out what you want to be involved in, and support us.
Awesome, awesome. In closing, for the viewers, few things I wanted to mention.
On this topic of vax injury, spike proteins, whether you're vaccinated or not vaccinated, on the americahappens.com website, we just set up our vax injury store, but it might as well be called the detox store, and let me explain why.
Because, like Tom Renz was just mentioning, these spike proteins are a serious health concern, even if you haven't been vaccinated.
We've interviewed something like 20, 30 doctors that are frontline doctors that talk about how just by virtue of, you know, things like kissing, hanging out with people, you know, having somebody breathe closely to you, these things are transmissible.
And so what we hear is that people are struggling out there.
People are noticing that the world is different.
Their immunity is different since all these vaccines came to fruition, right?
And so what we did on AmericaHappens.com is we set up something called the Vax injury store.
Like I said, it might as well be called the Detox store because this store contains protocols for this new future that we're looking at, which is a future where I could tell you at our America Happens office, this is what we do every day.
Every day we do these protocols.
It improves your health.
It helps to keep the spike proteins out of your system, which we know is incredibly damaging.
And so we offer these products now on America Happens.
I encourage you to check it out.
If you have any questions, please email us at americahappensatprotonmail.com.
We have a ton of interviews with world-renowned doctors explaining why these protocols are essential for this new world.
And in closing, I'd like to encourage you also check out americahappens.com where we have all of our podcasts posted on a daily basis, including Gloves Off with Joey Gilbert, Blood Money with Yours Truly, Conspiracy Truths with Mindy Robinson, Gianna Michele State National University, and our new AHN News Live, which we do every Tuesday and Thursday at 2 p.m.
live with correspondents, citizen journalists, correspondents all around the country.
And one last thing, we have our new show called Daily Devotions, which is a morning prayer show with LW, which happens at 4 a.m., Pacific, 7 a.m.
Eastern, and plays out throughout the day.
So, you know what? Very good thing to start your morning with prayer, and that's one of the new shows we've added.
Thank you so much, viewers, for joining us for this episode of Blood Money.
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