Cancel Culture Has No Power Anymore | The Babylon Bee Podcast
Gabe Eltaeb of Big Man Comics is at The Babylon Bee to talk about how we are in a vibe shift, the Republicans are the cool kids now, woke is dead, and cancel culture is canceled. The Southern Poverty Law Center tried to attack The Babylon Bee and its sister site, Not The Bee, as a "junk news site" as part of its Hatewatch coverage, but just about everyone just laughed at them. Oh, and Bluesky is a silly place. Follow Gabe over at: http://BigManComics.com Order by November 30th to get your Dean Cain: All-American Lawman: LIMITED EDITION CHRISTMAS FOIL COVER in time for Christmas: https://www.bigmancomics.com/product/dean-cain-all-american-lawman-cover-christmas/ Check out Jarret's new movie Homestead and maybe win a prepper homestead: https://www.angel.com/pre-sales/homestead/giveaway This episode is brought to you by our sponsors: Get stocked up with emergency food from My Patriot Supply: http://PrepareWithBee.com Get a free gold and silver information guide from Priority Gold: http://PriorityGold.com Get the medicine you need from All Family Pharmacy: http://AllFamilyPharma.Com/BEE Be sure to get The Babylon Bee Guide To The Apocalypse: http://shop.babylonbee.com (Use promocode: PODCAST)
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Hey guys, welcome to the Babylon Bee podcast.
We're so happy to be here today.
As with me, as always.
That's with us, as always.
No, as with me is correct.
That's how it's said.
Well, usually Kyle's the one saying this.
Yeah, so with me as always is Travis.
Hi, I'm Travis.
The Babylon Bee is Travis.
And yeah, we have a special guest, Gabe El-Taib.
You got it right.
It doesn't have a question mark at the end of my name, though.
That's not how you spell it.
Okay.
Gabe Etaib.
Gabe El-Taib?
So you changed the accent when you became a kid.
Right.
My dad, it did have a question mark when he was in Libya traditionally, and then they changed it when he immigrated here.
Oh, that's cool.
So they dropped the question mark.
Now the American version is El Taib, but the Arabic version is El Taib.
El Taib?
See, one of the reasons I was confused at first is because I was thinking of Lisan Al-Gaib from Dune.
I was like, I don't want to accidentally make a second cousin.
Well, why don't you make it, Jay?
I think it would be good.
Are you Muadib?
Yeah.
You know, if I was, I couldn't tell you.
Oh, that's true.
Well, so Gabe El-Taib is a comic book drawer.
Is that how you say it?
Or comic book drawer?
I would say comic book writer and illustrator.
And the illustrator.
You generally work with Dean Kane right now, right?
That's a big project I have.
Dean Kane, All-American Lawman, is a graphic novel we put out this last spring.
It was very successful, and the sequel is in the works.
But I own and operate Big Man Comics.
So we make a lot of action and adventure books.
I have a lot of books coming in 2025.
But Dean Kane, All-American Lawman, was our first release, but we have a lot of great stuff coming.
And you worked for DC Comics for a while.
For quite a while.
The better part of 15 years.
If you've heard of it, I've worked on it.
So Superman, Batman, One Woman, Ghostbusters, Warcraft, Borderlands.
I've worked on everything.
Plastic man?
That's man.
Yeah.
Every character you can think of, pretty much, except Ninja Turtles, which was a favorite of mine as a kid.
I used to be a good person.
I've never worked on a Ninja Turtle comic.
I had a copy of the first Ninja Turtles comic.
And it's dark, bro.
Oh, very violent.
It's not like a cartoon or anything like that.
It's not that.
It's little known fact, actually.
If you knew that, I don't know if you know, but I do.
Yeah, most people grew up on the cartoons.
They don't really know about the comics as much.
I was actually a huge Michelangelo fan.
I don't know if you guys like Michelangelo, but he was my favorite.
Raphael's my favorite.
Raphael's my favorite.
Because he was angry.
Right.
He was aggressive.
He was aggressive.
I mean, I like the aggression.
Raphael is all of us in here.
See, I've always thought Michelangelo was all of us in here.
Well, I think that's just because you're a party dude.
Right.
It's true.
I'm a party dude.
And I do like the pizza, bro.
Let's get some anchovy marshmallow pizza, bro.
Come on, bro.
Oh, a hundred percent.
And there was, and he was also in, do you remember the first movie?
Yeah.
Those weird puppets?
Love that movie.
And there was a cassette tape that came out.
I think it was at McDonald's or Taco Bell.
They gave a.
Just a soundtrack?
Yeah.
Yeah, it was like, no, it was all the songs.
It was like, it was a soundtrack, but it was like the songs from the movie.
Okay.
And there's this great song in there called Skipping Stones.
Maybe we can look that up at some point.
We might get a copyright strike for doing that.
Skipping Stones.
All right.
So we're going to talk a little bit today about this.
We're going to hang out with Gabe.
We're also going to talk about our new Southern Poverty Law Center issue that we have.
Oh, I saw that online.
Dude, it's so funny.
And we're going to get hate mail from Blue Sky, which I'm excited because there's going to be some really good hate mail.
We have been trolling the Blue Sky Guys all week and it's been kind of amazing.
It's time for it.
I support it fully.
And a comic book battle box today.
All right.
So, but first, we're going to prepare for the apocalypse.
Oh, it's over there.
Oh, Bucky.
Bucky took it.
Bucky.
Dang it.
Thank you, Bucky.
He's like, it's mine.
This is our book.
I did not write this book.
I drew, I drew some of the pictures for it.
Yeah.
The sick figures.
I threw in a few sentences here and there.
I snuck them in there.
Yeah.
Kyle's probably just now realizing and getting infuriated.
This joke is not funny, but they're in here.
And I worked on the cover art along with Brandon Toy, who kind of supervised and pointed and said, make this glow better.
So if you like that beautiful art, there's more of that in the book.
And actually, if you look closely, I think there's quite a few Travises in the book, aren't there?
There's kind of a lot of illustrated Travises.
Yes, yes.
So I traveled through all the different multiverses to learn how the different worlds end so that we could research the apocalypse in each different scenario.
In the multiverses, are there other Travises, or do you say it Travis I?
Is that the plural of Travis's?
They call him Travelopoulos.
Oh, there are.
Okay.
Yes.
So is there like a really jackwager one of you out there?
Well, no, we're all the same.
It's just that it's like, did you ever see that movie, The One with Jet Lee?
No.
Okay.
Not good.
I saw the commercial.
Not good.
I saw the trailer too.
And it was great.
Basically, the idea is that the more Travis Travelopoulos you kill, the stronger because the energy gets distributed.
So I'm at least slightly stronger than I was because I telephragged several Travelopos.
So it's kind of like a Highlander scenario.
I was going to say in the end, there can be only one.
There can be only one.
So are you the last Travis?
I am the last one.
I'm like the third to last.
Yes, of course.
Yeah.
Is there a Sean Conrad?
Yeah, Sean Connery Travis is one of the last ones.
I like how he was playing a Spaniard in that movie and he just kept the Scottish accent.
I know it's actually, yeah, it's funny.
He's like, yeah, I can't do that.
I can't do Spanish.
He's like, this is stupid.
I'm keeping this accent.
It's called Highlander.
I'm a Highlander.
I'm a Highlander.
No, that's not.
From Spain.
Who knows what they sounded like?
You know the Spanish Highlands.
That's right, dude.
That's funny.
I was telling my sons about the Highlander recently, and they absolutely want to watch them.
And I told them absolutely not until you're like 30.
I didn't realize there's a lot of stuff in those movies.
I can't remember.
I've only seen the first two.
Yeah.
Because the second one is so weird that I kind of fell off of it.
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Speaking of the apocalypse, Jarrett, what's new with you?
Well, so this is really exciting.
I have a movie coming out in December 20th.
There's a movie coming out called Homestead that is an apocalyptic scenario.
And it stars Neil McDonough.
I have a legit part in this movie.
I'm really excited.
Okay, so you have 30 seconds to tell us about it.
Okay, sorry.
Basically, something happens that's really bad right off the coast of San Pedro and the whole electrical grid goes down and everybody has to go and survive.
And the truth is, if something like that happened, if there were 9 million people in a space like we have right here in LA and there's no way to get food to them, there's no way to get water to them.
People die.
The first year, there's like 99% of the people die.
This is a real scenario.
It's awful.
And yeah.
So basically, it's kind of like that's happening.
And then people get out, and the only people that survive are people that go to homesteads.
It's an uplifting story.
It is actually.
Yeah.
It sounds like it, but it is.
It is enough.
It's how everything began.
Actually, let's play the trailer.
Everyone wondered how the world ended.
We got hit.
That's the sun.
America's just been attacked.
Go on shining.
This.
This is the story of how it began.
Los Angeles has been struck by a bomb.
It might be nuclear.
I saw this.
So what?
We never come back.
After today, our lives will never be the same.
Fuck it up!
We have looting and wives for a panic.
Hey, Daddy has a place for us to go.
We'll be together.
The city's on fire.
There's a guy, been planning for the big one.
Called a few months back, needs security people.
What is this place?
Welcome to Homestead.
Your guys have to learn how to farm.
We grow our food.
We raise our animals.
Can you handle yourself with a gun?
This might be the most prepared location in the Rockies.
Everyone's got one in.
And I mean everyone.
My family's out here, and we're starving to death.
I wish we could help what we can.
You can or you won't.
Our kids need us to be strong.
Please.
People are going to die at this gate.
Take trespassers.
The hills.
They're stealing your grain.
They've cut off your solar power.
We need a world where people help strangers, not shoot at them.
Sometimes we think we're doing the right thing, and then it all goes wrong.
It's the end of the world.
It's time for you to take full control.
That's complicated.
You think that you're above the law?
You think that the rules aren't for you?
Is this an ark or is this a fortress?
It's our home.
It's the end of the world.
All right.
That was a great trailer.
Man, I can't believe I saw you in it.
Yeah.
I saw Neil McDonough in it.
Yeah.
He was in people I know.
Wow, dude, you weren't kidding.
Everybody died in that thing.
That was nuts.
So the trailer, maybe you're not allowed to say it.
The trailer looks a little mysterious.
Why does this apocalyptic scenario happen?
Can you talk about that?
Yeah, I mean, I think it's apparent from each other that it was a nuclear bomb.
Well, yeah, but who did it?
Off the coast of San Pedro.
Who did it?
Now, that we don't know.
You're going to have to find out.
Okay.
It could have been.
But here's the thing, though.
If you guys go to Homestead, you guys can get tickets now.
Their pre-sale tickets are up.
They've already sold something like 2.8 million tickets pre-sale.
And it's going to be a theater December 20th.
And if you go now, you can enter Sweepstakes for a $300,000 homestead that's fully stocked.
So if you buy tickets now, your name gets put in a draw and a drawing, and then you can win this $300,000.
That's actually really awesome.
That's kind of incentive.
But anyway, let's move along.
All right.
Enough about Homestead.
So if I enter the contest, can you hook me up with the homestead for free?
Dude, I want the homestead.
I'm sure you're not allowed because the mic is on still.
They can hear you guys scamming the contest.
So, Gabe, you were talking a little bit about just in our, when we were talking about what we want to talk about today, the vibe shift.
Love Trump, Rogan, Elon, is Woke dead?
Are the cool kids Republicans now?
How do we as the Babylon Bee function when we're winning?
Like what.
Well, Trump said we were going to get so tired of winning, and maybe we are.
Back check false.
Well, I do think that there's definitely we've crossed a threshold.
I think woke has been dying for the last year or two.
It's been more and more people are speaking out.
You see in the entertainment world where I am, because I'm a comic book artist and writer and publisher, you see a lot of the woke movies failing.
A lot of those Marvel movies, they used to print money and they started doing Captain Marvel and oh, girl boss and white men suck and all that.
And it's not doing good.
In the video game world, I don't know if you guys have paid any attention, but there's like there's DEI stuff in the video game world where these DEI consultation companies, they take a normal video game everyone likes and they woke the heck out of it.
These things are failing.
There was a game, I'll be real quick, Sony, Concord, $400 million game, and it was a live service game.
So an online shooting, fighting game, they pulled it offline after nine days.
$400 million.
It failed in a week and a half.
And there was a Star Wars game that underperformed.
And so BioWare and Ubisoft and these big video game companies, they've been woke as hell and they're losing hundreds of millions, billions of dollars, and they're laying off people, closing studios.
So I think everyone who was timid to speak up about woke for the last 15 years, they just, it's what's that called?
A cascade preference where one person stands up and then a second person, and then everyone starts, you know what?
This is nonsense.
We don't like it.
You woke DEI weirdos.
No, you're wrong.
You're this bad.
We don't want it.
Well, there's, well, you know, I hate to say that.
I don't think we're the only ones that did, but if you ever see that, there's a meme out there where the Babylon Bee is like the little domino and it knocks up, you know, and so I do think the Babylon Bee was one of them.
I mean, maybe you guys can disagree, but I think you were one of them too.
I think I'm one of them.
You're one of them.
Matthew Marsden, he should be on here for sure.
You guys, I'll hook you up with him.
He's a good friend of mine.
He's a great, great family man, believer in Christ, and he's totally against the nonsense.
And he spoke out, lost his Hollywood career like 10 years ago, speaking out against nonsense.
And I mean, he was an Oscar winning movie.
He's Blackhawk Down.
He was in Rambo 4.
He's, you know, he's a very talented guy and he deserves to be working as an actor, but he stood on principle.
And when the, when the, it's YouTube, I'll be careful, when certain injections were happening, he spoke out against that, and that really cost him.
So I know Dean Kane has been outspoken for years.
And these are personal friends of mine.
So I think that guys like us, the Babylon Bee, we just were the men and women, some, that stand up early and you encourage other people.
You rally them.
And I've always been that way.
I was raised that way.
You know, my dad comes from Libya.
He emigrated here in the 70s.
And Gaddafi is not a great guy.
You may have heard.
They murdered some people and murdered my grandfather, killed some of my dad's friends and stuff for, you know, just disagreeing politically.
And my dad stood up to a lot of that.
And that's why he didn't, he wasn't able to go home for like 40-something years until Gaddafi was deposed.
So I come from people like that.
And I think like, if my dad can stand up to a murdering dictator, surely I can stand up to fat, blue-haired women in Hollywood who make everything woke.
I feel like compared to my dad, that's a pretty low bar.
Well, you know, compared to just like storming Omaha Beach.
My grandfather, he fought in World War II in the Pacific.
You know what I mean?
So I think about that too.
When I think about standing up for comic books, I don't think it's too scary compared to what my ancestors did.
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Yeah, you're right.
I mean, you read something like Soljanitson or something like that.
Right.
You know, but we watched all that go down in the communist bloc.
And people like Solja Nitson were under such political persecution, but nobody had the guts back then.
They didn't see it for what it was at the beginning, I think.
And then when they did stand up, they got thrown in the gulags and then for a long time.
It took forever.
I mostly agree, but I think a lot of people see it for what it is, but they're cowardly.
And there was a line in the Game of Thrones novels where something scary was going to happen and a son asked a father, I don't remember the character, he said, aren't you scared, dad?
And the dad said, you can only be brave when you're scared.
So it's like, you don't not feel fear.
You feel the fear and do it anyway.
I think Tylen Lannister talking to Tyrion.
Oh, okay.
I say, yeah, that's.
You're going to talk like that.
You got to point out your daughter, Dad.
Actually, chapter seven.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
No, I've heard that quote before.
But it makes sense, right?
I think Mark might have stolen it from someone.
But yes, I think it's a good idea.
But it's not his concept, but it's a human concept of masculinity and stoicism and emotional regulation of you can only do the right thing when you have the opportunity to do the wrong thing.
It doesn't matter if you do the right thing and your arm is being twisted, then it's not really you.
You're being forced.
Yes, that's true.
And it's one of the reasons why change has to come from the inside out.
We talk about it as Christians, like it has to be inside out change.
Yeah, because God looks at the heart.
He's not looking at so much what you're doing as so much what you're believing.
Right.
Yeah.
So it's not about regulating your environment.
It's about the heart change.
Like Jesus always does that.
I always analyze situations like, what is my part in this?
I cannot control anyone else.
The outside world, you can't.
Free will that human beings have is immutable.
There's nothing I can do to change your free will.
Nothing.
Torture, murdered, whatever.
Like your will is your will.
It's unbreakable.
And even God won't violate our free will.
He could, but he doesn't.
So, and that's why it matters.
It matters that we choose the right thing because we don't have to.
You know what I mean?
So I think in the face of all this, because what they've done, these leftists, communists, socialists, I love when they split hairs too.
Socialism isn't communism.
It's all the same garbage.
It's all the same.
But what they did to enforce it was cancel culture.
Agree with us or we take everything away from you.
And people feared that.
And I still, I know a lot of guys at Marvel and DC Comics and all that that hate this woke crap.
And they private messaged me.
Yeah.
But they got a mortgage.
That's true and brought a kid in college.
They just built a society.
You know, like the greatest generation came in and saved us all from Nazis.
And now we got comfortable with our mortgages and our different responsibilities and we were afraid to lose it.
And I think that's what allowed cancel culture to come in.
But do you think cancel culture is over now?
Did Trump cancel cancel culture?
I think persuasion is everything.
The Bible says faith without works is dead.
Whatever you believe, you will act on it, whether it's correct or not.
You will just act on it.
And I think if we all just believe that woke is dead and it's here to be mocked and shunned and made fun of, then yes, we could win the persuasion more culturally.
And I think we are.
You see people wearing Trump hats in public.
You see all kinds of athletes doing the Trump dance.
A beautiful woman, an actual woman, won the Miss Universe thing the other day.
Yeah, what a trip, right?
You know, and it's, and like, like I said, the woke movies and the woke video games, the woke comic books, they're failing.
And people are just like, it's enough.
We're not going to be bullied.
And I stood up years ago.
You guys stood up at the beat years ago.
And it's, I think we encourage others to do so.
And I think Trump's victory is the line of demarcation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know?
Well, thank God for people like you and also for the B and for the other folks that have stood up against you.
You should have said, thank God for people like you and people like you like me.
And Travis.
And Bucky and especially Bucky.
Well, Bucky's the OG.
He stood up before everyone.
Yeah, he did.
Look at him.
Thank you, Buck.
Thank you.
We just all tip our hats.
So do you think the 80s are coming back?
Because I kind of feel like they are.
I do.
I do.
I think the 80s is the zenith of American pop culture, especially movies.
You can't find a decade with more great movies.
There are great movies in every decade here and there.
They're sprinkled in.
The 80s is just banger after banger after, you know, Back to the Future, Indiana Jones, Star Wars.
It just goes on and on and on because Spielberg days.
We had pretty good special effects and the writers were just, they were just concerned with entertaining people mostly.
Woke has always been with us for all of humanity.
It'll always be there, that subversive, resentful weirdos.
But it wasn't really there.
You can't really find it that much in that stuff.
It's mostly the hero's journey.
Men are men, women or women.
So do you think that we're going back to those types of stories in our feature films?
I know Homestead's a bit like that.
I'm just going to point that out.
Look at Top Gun Maverick and Homestead, your movie debuting December 20th in theaters everywhere.
Get your tickets now online.
Look at Top Gun Maverick from 2021.
It was in theaters for like six, seven months.
Oh, yeah.
There is a sucking vacuum of people wanting that kind of entertainment.
They don't want, hey, it's a girl boss and men are stupid and America sucks and don't you think Christians are lame and America's the worst history in the history of the world.
People don't want it.
They don't, what if I made a book or a movie or whatever and the concept was Jarrett is a jerk and a moron.
Hey, do you want to buy my book that says you're a moron?
And then the woke people are like, why won't anyone buy our stuff?
It just tells them they're terrible.
People like you are the worst.
Right.
Hey, white Christian masculine men, you're awful.
Please buy the story that says that to you.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
And they wonder.
What kind of business is it?
They're on Disney and they're in these meetings and they wonder.
They're like, why aren't people buying our movies?
Again, they have no clue.
They're so disconnected.
It's sad, really.
Yeah.
So what's going on with Big Man Comics?
What's changed with it?
What other products do you have other than Dean Kane?
Because you've grown beyond Dean Kane.
Not that there's anything wrong with Dean Kane.
I know that you can grow beyond Dean Kane.
Well, Dean Kane has.
He becomes a part of you eventually.
He's like a symbiote.
I'll never get over it.
I can hear him sometimes just at home.
He doesn't scold me that much.
So what I'm doing is making that 80s action entertainment.
I write graphic novels, 120 pages.
They're written in the Hollywood 1980s three-act Hero's Journey.
And I've got four slated for 2025.
I have a sequel to Dean Kane All-American Law Man, The Hong Kong Connection.
It's awesome.
It's like a caper crime heist thing in Hong Kong and Southeast Asia.
Really fun.
I have Imperion, which the 120 pages of black and white art is done.
It just needs to be colored and lettered.
So that'll be rolling out probably in the spring.
It's a love letter to like Star Wars and sci-fi, but no woke.
It's your basic evil tyrant ruling a planet, keeping everyone blinded to all his lies that he's the greatest master ever.
And a husband and wife team have found some truth about a promised world that was a legend that the evil ruler says isn't real.
And it will set the whole world of people free from his bondage.
You know what I mean?
They're in bondage to him, but they think they have everything they want, but he's this awful, disgusting leader.
You know what I mean?
So it's really a metaphor for religion and stuff like that.
But my work is never political.
Like, I hate Democrats and I hate feminism.
Like, we don't do that.
Mine, we entertain.
Because you can't tell me, like, what is in Back to the Future?
What is Marty McFly?
Is he a Republican or a Democrat?
You don't know.
Republican.
No, yeah, obviously he's a Republican.
Well, Alex.
He's a Reagan Republican.
Alex P. Keaton was.
But in my books, that's who he played on Family Ties for the Youngsters.
Oh, I remember.
In my books, it's just about heroism and love and family and doing the right thing.
So a Republican.
Right.
And doing the right thing.
No matter how terrifying it is.
You do the right thing.
Because those are the values I was raised on.
It's why I stood up to Warner Brothers three, four years ago, walked away from a great job at DC Comics because I wouldn't help them make filth.
I didn't want to.
I mean, conservative, though.
Like, I think, I mean, we joke about this, but really all the stuff that you just mentioned is our conservative values.
Right.
So they're not, you know, like, they're not progressive values.
Those are not progressive values.
Right.
But to me, they're just human values.
Like, right, but that's right.
But it's rational.
Because in the Bible, it says, you know, love your neighbor as yourself and do unto others you have them do unto you.
And if you do those, you've fulfilled all my law.
That's what Christ says, right?
If you love people as yourself.
And I think, well, if it wasn't me, would I want someone to be brave for me?
Would I want someone to stand up for me?
Would I want someone to tell me when I'm sinning and doing evil to help save my life?
And to me, that's loving someone as yourself, because the progressive view of, hey, Jesus was like this hippie who said to like love everyone, man, you can't judge.
That isn't true.
If you were going to shoot up, you know, shoot up.
See, I don't do drugs.
You don't shoot fentanyl, I don't think.
But if you were going to take it and die, don't do that.
It's awful.
Never do it.
I would tell you no.
I would stop you.
I would intervene.
And that's loving you, even though it hurts your feelings.
And that's what the left doesn't want to do.
Like, yeah, you can't judge.
Like, yeah, you can save someone's life by like telling them, this is going to kill you, dude.
Don't do this.
Yeah, the definition of love is a very interesting thing because in Christianity, the definition is to, right, a lot of times to tell people the truth.
Of course, if I was going to take drugs and ruin my life or become a gambling addict, I would want someone to stop me.
Yeah.
Help me stop.
Yeah, truth and love are very tied.
It's like the same thing.
But you've got all these other series too.
You've got Tyrus.
Oh, well, everyone knows Tyrus from Fox News.
And we've actually, that's him.
He's a huge comic book fan.
So his handle on Twitter is Planet Tyrus.
There was an award-winning Hulk story in the early 2000s called Planet Hulk.
That's why he uses that name.
He's a huge Hulk fan.
So I came up with this.
We came up with this great concept of him as this big blue guy with animal powers and stuff.
And it's a little bit of Ninja's from the 90s because as you see on that cover right there, there's a bunch of half human, half animal mutants.
And it's really fun.
It's got a little treasure hunting around the globe, Indiana Jones stuff in it, and ancient history and lost civilizations.
I'm really going crazy with the script on that one.
There's Empyrean.
That's like my Star Wars one and all that.
And that one will be out first, I believe, in the spring.
I love that one.
That's cool.
It looks cool.
Thank you so much.
I didn't illustrate that one.
I'm doing the Tyrus one.
But my buddy, he goes by Acheon's, his pen name.
He was animator at Disney.
He worked at Marvel in DC.
He's a master.
That one I illustrate.
I'm going to draw the Tyrus book.
That'll be Paul Me.
But yeah, we're having a good time.
And then I have one that's similar to The Goonies.
So it's kids having an action adventure in the early 90s in the Bay Area.
And all the teachers and coaches and adults are slowly being replaced by like these zomboid robot things, but nobody believes the kids.
So the kids have to get to the bottom of the mystery and stop the bad guys.
It's like the faculty.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
So, yeah, it's going to have a feeling of like the faculty, Stranger Things, the Lost Boys, all that fun stuff.
And it's just fun, exciting adventures.
And all of it is clean.
There's no cursing.
There's no sex.
I say my work is inspiring for children and thrilling for adults.
Because when you say something is safe for kids, adults are like, oh, I don't want to read it.
That's like, is that for like seven-year-olds?
Like, oh, no, no, no, no.
It's like you can show a seven-year-old Star Wars, 77, but you can show a 70-year-old Star Wars, and they're just as entertained.
That's exactly how my work is.
It's appropriate for adults to be engaged and entertained.
You can hand it to your nephew and feel safe that there's not going to be, you know, something twerking in his face on page 98 or whatever.
We don't do that.
Yeah, that's good.
No twerking in the face.
Yeah.
Somebody quote me on that.
Kamala thought that would win.
Did you see those rallies Kamala had with those nasty rappers?
Yeah, I saw some clips.
Yeah.
You know, it's go and watch them again and look into the crowd of like 50-year-old white women just kind of like, they're like, what is this?
I don't know, but I think it's ethnic.
So let's cheer for it.
Yeah.
No, there's saying things I shouldn't say on this podcast or popping and moving and popping and rocking.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
I have an idea.
I'm going to pitch to you later.
Okay.
All right.
I don't want to do it now because somebody will steal the idea.
Is it about a sketch comedian writer that works at a subversive website?
And also, at the same time.
He's super handsome.
He can transform into the devil.
And then he has a friend who transforms into a really like hard-hitting journalist.
Okay.
And, oh, could I follow up on that while we were talking about Big Man Comics really quick?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, sure.
So those books I mentioned, those four books, the Tyrus book, the Dean Kane sequel, Imperian, and the Goonies type one is called Jericho Green and the Hammerheads.
I think Hammerheads is such a cool name for a group of kids.
Oh, that is great.
It's like the, it's like the Goonies or the Pogues.
If you watch Outer Banks, yeah.
Sure.
So what I have right now before Christmas, though, this is a printer sample of the Luminescence.
It's like a holographic cover here.
I'll let you guys see that there and they can throw it up on the screen.
But that's Dean Kane, All-American Lawman.
It's volume one.
Oh, wow.
Those are only available.
If you order by November 30th, you'll get that before Christmas.
I don't want to open it up.
You're not supposed to pull it out.
You can pull it out of there.
It's not connected to the comic behind it.
It's literally just the cover.
The printer sends you samples and then you approve them.
So there's a man in the Christmas tree.
Yeah, the bad guy got tied up.
So it's like a comedic version of what's going on.
There's definitely a lot going on.
Who's this guy?
That guy's El Chulo.
He's one of the villains.
This is volume one of the book, but we put it all in a funny holiday theme.
And that's Dean Kane and the Santa Cita.
That's Dean.
Yeah, and then that's obviously his wife.
Obviously.
Well, that's his love interest, Veronica.
Veronica Murray.
That's the character from volume one.
I love it.
That's so great.
Yeah.
So it's a great story, Dean Kane, All-American Lawman, Volume 1.
People who got it this last spring and summer absolutely love it.
I had a blast writing it.
My friend, the Disney animator, he illustrated it.
I colored it.
And Dean collaborated with me on creating that character.
So yeah, if you go to bigmancomics.com, get that right now because I'm going to pull it away and then it won't be available again for quite a while.
So it's a limited edition.
And it's a perfect gift for anybody who loves action adventure from the 80s.
So it's one less gift you have to think about because you know how holiday shopping is.
Oh, what do I get Uncle Freddy or whatever?
And if you want to get it for yourself as a gift, I won't tell anyone.
It's fine to buy yourself.
Or holiday shoplifting.
Yeah.
For that matter.
So, but yeah, any order on bigmancomics.com, the other prints of Dean Kane, All-American Lawman, the awesome t-shirts we have, the anti-socialist social club shirt that I have that you like.
I wear that all the time.
Good.
Yeah, I get all that.
And since we defeated Kamala, get the anti-socialist social club shirt.
You know, it's funny.
I do like that shirt.
I always wish that it said anti-socialism social club because it makes me, as a, I like wear it leading worship sometimes.
It makes it look like I hate anyone in the crowd that's a socialist.
I see.
It's a very specific socialist.
I don't like you.
Yeah.
Socialism.
I get a lot of comments on that shirt all the time.
People, oh, I love the shirt.
I do.
I wear it all the time.
Yeah.
Do you get comments?
Well, I get comments.
Yeah, mostly I get positive comments.
Right.
So, yeah, if you want to join the anti-socialist social club, get that shirt at Big Man Comics.
Order by November 30th, guaranteed delivery before Christmas on everything.
USA only, international.
That's out of my hands.
That stuff can take weeks.
It's out of all of our hands, really.
Right.
So, well, Bucky could have handled it, but you know.
Yeah, he's got some international stuff.
Yeah, he's, dude, he's totally national.
He's like, he's stuck in Texas, bro.
Right.
Well, anyway.
Oklahoma?
No?
Is he in Oklahoma?
He might be.
I don't know.
But all this to say.
They opened one in Colorado.
I know by my dad's house.
Well, go check it out.
Gabe El Taib.
He has some great stuff.
And I like your style.
Thank you.
And I think it's very cool.
I like your storytelling style.
Thank you.
And I think it's pretty cool.
I think we should connect some more about that.
What's in the news this week?
It turns out the Southern Poverty Law Center, and you know, they don't even care about poverty, which is weird.
Yeah.
Or law.
Or law.
But they decided to come after our sister site, Not the Bee.
And they published an article hitting our CEO, Seth Dylan, for past business practices and going after anonymous writers on Not the Bee and explaining, oh, it's in the source code, so it's fine.
So, yeah, it's not really a news item.
It's just like, hey, look, we found some stuff in the source code of the website, and now we're publishing it.
Well, they're intentionally doxing our people, which I think is like law, right?
You're not allowed to do that.
And so they're going after us.
But you know what?
The B did, which is fascinating, not the B and the B and Seth Dylan.
They got out ahead of it and they started printing stuff about the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Is that right?
Yep.
And really just kind of like hit it off at the past, started making fun of them.
Right.
And there's a great quote.
It's like Adam Ford responded, like, Adam Ford, it's actually right there.
Do you have it right there?
I love this.
Oh, yeah.
So this is it.
So Adam Ford said, Mike Frame it, Ford declined to respond to a request for comment and instead insulted the Poverty Law Center and Southern Poverty Law Center, which is so typical, Adam Ford.
So their emails are really weird too.
So they sent emails to certain members of the B and Not the Bee and asked for comment.
Yeah.
This article is going to come up.
But they don't really say what the article is.
They're just like, oh, this article's going up and we're naming some people.
Would you like to comment?
And they didn't send me an email, but my first thought was, comment on what?
You didn't say what the article is about.
You just said, you know, this person's name.
It's like a veiled threat.
Yeah, it's like, which it really was.
It was actually a veiled threat.
Yeah.
So trying to take us down as a hate group.
Dan Dylan, CEO and co-founder of Not the Bee and Seth Dylan's lovable brother.
What a scamp.
He issued a statement on X, formerly known as Twitter.
You may have heard that the Southern Poverty Law Center has targeted our organization for a hit piece.
They've taken personal information about our authors and pieced together a story that is meant to expose our anonymous staff to their employers and the general public because we have a lot of part-time writers.
Right.
We won't be intimidated by these efforts.
While we take the actual issue of doxing very seriously and will defend those on staff that wish to stay anonymous, what we don't take seriously is this organization that's behind the attack.
They are angry, bitter, resentful hacks that feel like their ability to pummel people into worldview submission is slipping away.
Let them try to smear us.
In doing so, they reveal the true villain in themselves.
The villain was in themselves all along.
Yeah, I think that's it is true.
That's a good quote.
The Southern Poverty Law Center adds itself to a list of hate groups.
That was actually a B headline from 2018.
Very funny.
Yeah.
Well, I would say you guys are ultra-talented in comedy.
I know a thing or two about that with my daughter.
Hammer these guys with comedy.
Humiliation and mockery will just make them evaporate, these guys.
They're awful.
They're bullies.
They're, I think, commies or something like that.
They're America haters.
They are.
Absolutely.
They're awful, awful people that want to subvert our culture.
So just mock them.
That's why I say to all the people in Hollywood, the people in comics, people in video games that are ruining our culture, just mock them.
It's time to point and laugh at these people.
Yeah, I keep saying you got to just mock them until they crawl back into their little holes.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, because they're not important enough to do anything else.
No, they don't mock.
Well, what is it going to do?
So, like, what are they going to do?
They're going to release this thing.
They're going to dox our people.
And what's it going to change?
Is it going to change someone's mind about the B?
We're going to expose that you're not a leftist.
No, and Seth's so funny.
And like we've talked about, the vibe has changed a bit.
I don't think anyone's going to get fired from their full-time jobs over a big deal.
You know what they need?
That'd be such an outrage.
Well, yes.
And the B is definitely not going to fire anyone over this.
They're just going to.
I think the SLPC people, if they just had like a Trump dance off in their office, I think you'd all be happier.
Do it, guys.
You'll just gave up and voted for Trump.
They'd be happier.
Look at how good you feel.
I feel great.
It's like the new sweat into the oldies with a Trump dance.
Yeah, it's good, man.
The Trump dance is fun.
Young man.
Yeah.
There's no need to feel down.
So can I tell you guys a weird story?
Pick yourself up.
So another kind of news issue that we didn't bring up.
Do you know, Dennis Prager hurt himself last week.
I don't know if you know he was down.
Small detail because he did something to his neck.
So if you guys get a chance, pray for Dennis Prager, please.
We were there last week.
I played the devil.
I was the devil in their, what do you call it?
In their gala.
So I played, I hosted as the, as Satan.
And which was, I mean, just imagine.
It was a great night.
But we ended up afterwards, I got to do the Trump dance with Dennis Prager.
Oh, really?
So we were all Trump dancing with him.
He put a yarmulke on my head.
It wasn't a good look as the devil.
And so we took the yarmulke off.
Yeah, it's not great.
And it's a weird.
Yeah.
Adam Kroll was there.
Oh, I love the Ace Man.
I only have met him and talked to him once about 15 years ago at Irvine Improv or something like that.
Oh, he's really, I mean, he's a good guy.
I met him in a urinal the first time.
Oh, not in the urinal, but we were.
I was thinking urinal.
Yeah, we were next to each other in a urinal body.
He's like, hey, you're Adam Carolla.
I saw online there was a chart.
It was a drawing of like 10 urinals.
And then there was like different scenarios of where men are standing.
And they asked me, well, where do you stand?
And women got a hold of us saying, like, oh, my God.
There's a whole thing.
Yeah.
Like, you don't go buddy up next to someone if you don't have to.
Well, I did with Adam Carolla.
Okay.
The ace man, you definitely want.
He's a big dude, by the way.
You walked across this giant empty bathroom and you just went right next to him.
No, I mean, it makes it sound like really strange.
It was actually like he was there.
I was not dressed like the devil.
All of the urinals were occupied.
He actually came up and started peeing next to me.
And I turned and I was like, oh, hey, you're Adam Carolla.
He's like, yeah.
And then you got his shoes wet.
And I was like, oh, sorry.
Disgusting.
Oh, I'm an idiot.
Oh, and I ran out.
Oh, I'd love to meet him again.
He's such a great dude.
One of my favorite.
I listened to his podcast.
Listened to Loveline back in the 90s.
Oh, I remember that.
Yeah, for sure.
I was listening to Love Line when 9-11 hit, which was weird.
Crazy.
All right.
So another news item we have: Biden allowed.
This is so ridiculous.
Okay.
Biden allowed Army Tactical Missile Systems, A-T-A-C-Ms, or ATAC'ems, to be used by Ukraine to strike deeper into Russian territory, escalating tensions.
Russia says that they're ready to use nukes.
Okay, this is absolutely nuts.
So our administration is trying to escalate the war in Ukraine and Russia.
That's the conclusion that we're all drawing.
You guys are trying to create World War III so that you guys don't have to leave office.
Is that what's going on?
I don't think it's so they don't have to leave office.
I think it's so Trump doesn't have to end the war and the money train can keep going because this is clearly just like embezzlement, sending money to Ukraine all the time.
It's like, oh, we're going to send a bajillion dollars to Ukraine.
And my brother's company is the one that can fulfill what they need.
Like, you know, it's not literally his brother, but that's how this whole grift works.
Yeah.
And Trump, yeah, Trump can't literally strike a deal if Putin nukes somebody.
That's just, that's too far.
It's too far.
If I were, if I were Donald Trump, I don't know if he did this, but if I were Donald Trump, as soon as I found out about this, I would have called Putin on the phone.
Like, I would have been like, hey, listen, don't do anything.
You know, like, we're, everything's going to be okay.
Like, don't dare tell you.
Don't nuke anybody.
I don't.
I feel like.
Yeah, I don't know.
Don't you think?
I don't think it's going to go that far.
I could eat my words in 24 hours.
I just don't think he's going to launch tactical nukes.
I think he knows Putin that what they're trying to do.
And I think they'll weather it.
And then Trump will get in office.
You know, they're trying to be provocative.
This is a money train for these globalist weirdos.
They just love war because it's not their son getting blown up.
And they don't want it to ever end.
It's a big reason why they impeached him and did what they did at the last election because he didn't want this.
He didn't want the Ukraine thing because it's just endless money going there.
So I think they'll be provocative.
I think Putin will restrain himself because he knows Trump is coming to.
Well, we can only hope.
Like, I feel like it's ridiculous for us to try to escalate this.
And I don't, we can only hope.
Please, please end the human suffering.
Please, guys.
Right.
I mean, how many people have died over there?
The estimates, it's like over a million, right?
Of civilians.
It's got to be something like that.
I mean, it's been going up for a while.
And, you know, but Putin has been threatening nukes kind of this whole time.
It's only now he's been like, no, really serious this time, guys.
So yeah, I don't, I agree.
I don't think anything's going to come of it.
But let's hope.
I do think it's obviously fear porn from the news, too.
They love to talk about it and like just get people like this.
And because fears then control.
It's easy to control people.
Because when you have people terrified, they'll do anything to get away from the terror, right?
Yeah.
So if you scare the hell out of people, you can get them to stand fixed feet apart from each other and wear a mask and take experimental mRNA.
Yeah.
So I think they played their hand on that stuff.
I think it's going to backfire.
Well, I think, yeah, I think you're right.
They went so far that it woke a lot of people up.
They're like, wait a minute.
It's going to take a generation for them to lull us to sleep again.
So we'll see.
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So in other news, President-elect Trump and Senator Ted Cruz attended the sixth SpaceX test launch of Starship with Elon Musk this week in Texas.
And I guess it was a huge success.
It seems like Elon and Trump are just like total besties.
They're just hanging out all the time now.
Did you see that Elon, he literally said on Twitter the other day, I'm happy to be the first buddy?
Oh, no, I didn't see all that stuff.
I'm not the first buddy.
The first buddy.
That's so funny.
They're just like going on vacations together.
They have a friendship necklace.
Elon Musk is an IQ test.
Leftist, like if you hate Elon Musk and call him a loser, I know you're actually an idiot.
He's one of the great men of history, like a Nicola Tessa, like a Da Vinci, like one of the great men of history.
Like you put his resume up, and oh, his parents were rich.
A lot of people's parents were rich.
They didn't do what he's doing.
They launched those rockets, SpaceX, from Vandenberg, like 200 miles from here.
I can see them at my house in San Diego, and my wife and I love it.
So when we hear it, it launched two nights ago.
We were watching Greece on Amazon Prime.
I'd never seen Greece before.
Oh, we've never seen it, really?
No, but Matthew Marsden, my friend, was saying how much he loved that song.
You're the one that I want.
You're the one I want.
The great song.
By the way, the lyrics, we'll talk about that.
But she's like, we pause the movie and go outside because my wife is like, oh, it's launching.
We go outside and we see it fly by.
And we just wave a blank.
We're watching that.
I tell my wife, Elon Musk is an idiot.
Is what I whisper in her ear.
Because these leftists on Twitter X, they always make fun of him because they hate his politics.
But it's like, I'd love to see their bank account and accomplishments, the people that are calling him an idiot.
Like, by the way, you're on his website.
I'd like to see anyone that's done anything for the climate like he has.
Like, they're so interested in the climate.
And they're doing incredible stuff there.
Like, SpaceX could live stream through re-entry because of the.
I watched it yesterday, the this giant one Star Show.
I watched that one on X Live.
You know, so crazy.
Well, my first love was Star Wars when I was little.
I wanted to be a fighter pilot when I was a little kid.
That's what I wanted to be because I love the X-Wing.
I found out you can't wear glasses and you can't be 6'4.
Yeah, you gotta be kind of shit.
And X-Wings don't exist.
That was the big one.
Yeah, I was like, oh, well, then what am I even doing this for?
Yeah, I don't know what the height limit is, but it's something around 5'10, isn't it?
I'd like to know.
What was it really?
I met a guy at the Miramar Air Show, you know, Top Gun down in San Diego, and I asked him about it.
This is two years ago, and he was 6'1 or 6'2.
He said you could be about that tall.
Okay, about 6'1.
You could be wrong about all this.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'm just, I always thought you had to be kind of short, like a jockey.
So that was my first dream: to fly an F-14.
So, yeah.
Yeah, that would have been a pretty cool dream.
Yeah.
I mean, I had that too.
Yeah.
My best friend from high school went into the Air Force because of that dream.
Really?
And now he's a pilot.
He's like, he's a squad leader.
It was fighter pilot, defensive end for the Denver Broncos or comic book artist.
So I got one of them.
Those were the three dreams for me growing up.
I wanted to be a baseball player.
Okay.
An actor.
Or a pastor.
Or an astronaut.
Okay.
Or a cowboy.
Okay.
Or so I just became an actor.
There's a lot of those.
Yeah.
So you became an actor.
You almost acted in a movie about a preacher in space who plays baseball.
I don't save the rodeo.
I just do them on TV.
California officials cite Elon Musk's politics in rejecting SpaceX launches.
So you're just more worried about it.
So Elon has threatened to sue the FAA for regulatory overreach, saying that they need to speed up their license reviews for Starship flights.
Yeah, they're basically dragging their feet on everything.
Yeah, because of his politics.
I do like how they said publicly it was his politics, which is against California state law.
You cannot politically discriminate in this.
That law has been on the books since I think 1937.
I know this because I showed it to DC Comics when they were trying to get funny with me when I was leaving declaring my politics.
And they had to pay me out my entire contract and I didn't have to do the work.
That's great.
You lose again, Warner Brothers.
You lose.
And I guess the Journal of Acoustical Society of America has tries to raise alarms about Starship test flights because they're too loud.
And the EPA is claiming that SpaceX has violated the Clean Water Act in the past.
Not even now.
So they're like, well, they did this once, one time.
Like, how many ways can you violate the Clean Water Act is my question?
I don't know.
I don't know.
How did they violate?
Well, I don't know who I want to know that.
They're really going after the first buddy.
That's all I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
The first one's going to be fine.
Yeah.
He's going to be just fine.
And California sucks for that.
I think they're just lame.
Yeah.
But in lighter news.
Lighter news: a transgender woman, i.e., a man who calls himself Sarah McBride was elected to Congress and Representative Nancy Mace.
I don't know if you guys have been following this, but she's drawn up restrictions to keep the women's bathrooms.
So that's like, have you guys followed this?
I followed it a little bit.
Yeah, this is great.
I think it's Nancy Mace.
There's a tiny problem with it.
That's a persuasion problem, though.
Yeah.
I agree with Nancy Mace.
I don't want boys playing against my daughter in sports and breaking their collarbones and all that.
Like, trans people, you're free to be who you are, but we don't want to hurt girls.
Like, come on.
Yeah.
Like, should I play against eight-year-olds in football?
I'm too big, right?
Like, it's a strength thing.
But Nancy Mace invaded male space by being the first graduate of the Citadel.
Remember, the Citadel was all men that academy.
And about 20 years ago, she's like, no, women are allowed to do this.
And she did it and graduated.
And people are throwing that in her face.
By going into the male restrooms?
No, not in the restrooms.
She graduated in the male restroom.
Yeah, that's where they held this.
I'm going into the male restroom.
So while I agree with her in principle, I've seen people throwing that argument up.
And I was like, no, it might have been better if someone else.
If it was someone else, because like, yeah, you invaded an all-male space that had been male forever, you know, and you were happy when it was you doing it.
Yeah, that's a weird comparison.
Just thinking about, yeah, I do, because I feel like there's a big difference between like going to a university, graduating with honors or something, like being the first woman to kind of like break the glass ceiling and being the first man to break the glass ceiling of peeing in a women's restroom while there's women in there.
I see the difference.
I see, I do see that.
But the first guy who did it, I mean, really broke a glass ceiling.
Guys have been trying to break that glass ceiling forever.
I don't want to go in a woman's bathroom.
No, I'm going to get gross on the show here.
I just, I like the mystery of women.
I want to keep it a mystery.
Yeah.
Well, it's like Allie McBeal, bro.
She messed the whole thing up.
Yeah.
Do you guys remember that?
I don't, but there's a lot of sex bathrooms like in this law firm.
Anyway, no.
And people are always like, it was always the drama that happened in the bathroom.
Yeah.
And then somebody would overhear it.
I want to imagine women, women as dainty, dainty and pure.
I don't want to, I don't want to know what a couple chili dogs did to the cute little secondary.
I don't want to.
All right, all right.
Let's do this.
That's what I'm saying.
Travis, can you take us into the battle box?
In America, we resolve our differences at the battle box.
Now that's how we do it at the battle box, not with bullets.
All right, it's time for the battle box, our portion of the podcast where multiple things enter and one thing leaves.
It sounds like it sounds like the Thunderdome?
Thunderdome.
But it's not.
It's way different.
It's the Battle Box.
This is how we settle our differences.
That's how we do it in the Battle Box.
So today it's going to be Marvel versus all the other big comic book houses.
DC, Image, Dark Horse, IDW.
Okay.
Not Big Man Comics because we would have an obvious bias.
Obviously, obviously for Big Man Comics.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It would really be unfair.
All right.
So who's entering?
Who's leaving?
That's what I want to know.
Yeah.
Well, it's all the different companies.
Oh, it's entirely.
So, like, obviously, DC, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, to a lesser extent, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Shazam, Shazam, Zachary Levy, Zachary Levi, Levi, Levi, not Levy.
Yeah.
And then what's spawned from?
Image.
Image.
Okay.
Image.
And the Walking Dead.
Walking Dead.
And then that's the Invincible.
Right.
Which is heavy, dude.
Like, those are all heavy.
And then these are all Ninja Turtles.
Those are Dark Horse.
X-Files, Transformers, and a Ninja Guy.
Who's that on the left?
I don't know.
I don't have my glasses on.
He's not Mr. He's Mr. Ninja.
Let me put on my spectacles.
Ninja Man.
So you've got, okay.
Well, he's the expert.
He'll know.
Gosh, if we're throwing in, you will know.
I don't know.
Is that Sawan?
I worked in this business.
That's funny as image.
I worked in this business forever.
I have no idea what character that is.
That's spun.
We'll call him Ninja Man.
Oh, Dude.
Ninja Man.
Yeah.
It's Night Monkey.
Mr. Ninja to you.
Yeah, Night Monkey.
And then, of course, Ninja Man.
I'm Mr. Ninja.
Yeah.
And then Marvel.
So a Marvel DC image.
Yeah, it's so funny.
They all have different.
So between all of those, I would inch toward DC just because I think they represent a more classic hero vision.
Like Superman.
Superman's classic.
You're wearing a suit.
I am wearing, yeah, but.
But at the same time, they're red also.
Worthless right now.
They're just awful right now.
The Kyle Man stuff.
San Diego Comics.
I got San Diego and then Denver Broncos.
That's funny, man.
I grew up in Denver, so you hit us both.
I'm from Colorado, grew up in San Diego.
Oh, very cool.
Yeah.
But I'm interested in Gabe's opinion.
I am too.
He's the expert here.
If you had to pick one, you have to pick one.
Oh, DC Comics.
It is what you said.
It's the classic heroes.
In the world of comics between the fans and the creators, DC is seen as like the regal.
They're more like a pantheon of gods, whereas the Marvel heroes are like street level.
Everyone could imagine themselves as a Marvel hero.
You know what I mean?
Spider-Man, he's got some powers, but it's not like Superman or Green Lantern or March Man on or stuff like that.
So Marvel's more the everyman stuff like that, the more common stuff.
Yeah.
They experience pain a lot.
Adamantium skeleton and a healing factor.
Yeah.
And DC is more that.
So yeah, DC is seen as more the regal, a little more serious, not upty, but more serious.
And Marvel's the more fun, playful one and stuff like that a little bit.
Got you.
So you've got kind of like a mythos, a mythology in DC.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then, you know, in Marvel, it's like, well, science kind of made these people a little bit superhuman.
Right.
You know, Iron Man is a good example.
Even Captain America.
Thor is the only one that kind of is an actual god.
And then you've got all these other guys from the X-Men and stuff.
Doctor Strange is just a wizard.
Yeah.
So like, you're right.
I kind of feel that way.
It's funny because I've been studying about, you know, the men of renowned.
Right.
Like the previous, like prior to the flood, I've been studying about the giants.
Right.
And I think that stuff is fascinating because a lot of like the early mythology is probably based on these giants that came.
And I actually think it's physical.
I think the angels and women and then they created the Nephilim.
Do you think Superman was Nephilim?
I think that I think Hercules was.
I actually have this.
I think all the early like demigods that they talk about and they have these legends and stuff.
I think those are all based on real people.
Real things.
So like Gilgamesh and all these.
Yeah, Gilgamesh.
Yeah, yeah, Gilgamesh.
And they were a little bit superhuman.
I think that's something that Six Fingers.
That's fascinating.
Yeah, I know.
It's a blunt.
Did you go down the rabbit hole on the ancient civilization?
Yeah, well, that's detected.
That's kind of part of it.
To me, that's part of it.
I kind of look at the Go Blucky Tech It, whatever.
Whatever.
I know I said it wrong.
I'm certain.
You can only say it.
Easter Easter Island.
Yeah.
You know, all the big things that were like these monoliths.
I feel like we're like, how did the people do this?
It's like, well, they were 12 feet tall and really big.
There was a bunch of them.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm fascinated by that stuff.
There's no way to know, right?
But it's fascinating.
Although there are like skeletons and there are things that have been left over.
Well, yeah, I've heard that too, but I've also, other people say, oh, well, those aren't real.
Yeah.
And that could be true.
But I also, there's like people give the skeletons to the Smithsonian, then all of a sudden the Smithsonian loses them.
Yeah, and they're like, okay, can we see that?
What's wrong?
The Smithsonian destroyed them to cover up the evidence.
Well, and they would say to cover up because it's like- But like, why?
What are you covering up that there were tall people?
Why would you need to cover it?
That's the thing.
So there was an old story a long time ago, and this is only somewhat related, and that the Grand Canyon had like some Egyptian artifacts there.
I heard that.
There was a newspaper article about it, and they found it.
And they gave it to Smithsonian.
Now Smithsonian's like, ah, it doesn't exist.
Do you guys ever listen to it?
think they do why would you why would you control the narrative so that the satanic narrative and And it's the reason why the flood happened because most of humanity was like the DNA had been messed up by this like this thing that happened.
Maybe this is like way out there.
Yeah.
I didn't know if I'd go that far.
You know, in the comic book creator community, you're drawing.
I'm not a night owl anymore.
I grew out of it, but in my 20s, all that, you're up at night until 2, 3 in the morning drawing and stuff like that.
And Coast to Coast AM on the radio.
And for those of you that don't know, this is like the biggest syndicated show in America.
It's on thousands of stations starting at like 11 at night to like 3 in the morning.
It's the wackiest, craziest show ever.
It's people calling in about UFOs and Bigfoot.
And the host, I don't know if he believes him or not, but he is so good at yes-anding these people.
Oh, yeah, that's fascinating.
My favorite one is a trucker called in.
He's like, yeah, I got abducted once.
I was driving down Highway 80 and I saw a bright light.
Next thing I knew, I was three miles down the road.
And I'm like, brother, you fell asleep.
You fell asleep driving.
You did not get abducted for two miles.
That's right.
But yeah, all kinds of werewolves and vampires.
If you're up late at night, find it.
It's on AM radio across the country.
A.M. 640.
Okay, so we got to end up on Battle Box really quick.
So here's what we do.
Sounds like Coast to Coast Radio one.
If they were going to actually fight, then DC would probably win.
I think so.
Yeah.
Like, who's going to beat Superman?
Who's going to beat the Green Lantern?
But in terms of entertaining, like the, I think the cinematic universe is Marvel's by far more interesting.
Marvel deserves to lose for all the quips they put in their movie.
I see, I like all that stuff.
I like Joss Whedon.
You're a good comedian.
You like that?
I like Joss Whedon, brother.
Oh, that whole, I thought you said you knew these.
But I was.
Who's coming?
We got company.
Like, oh.
I like that stuff.
And I actually like, I loved Buffy the Vampire Slayers.
We used to gather together as college students and go watch Buffy at one of the people's houses.
I mean, I would certainly give Marvel credit for how well they were able to keep things going successfully for so long because it's only recently everyone's gotten that fatigue, I think.
After Endgame.
It just dropped off.
Well, it's also the phases, right?
Because they started introducing DEI after phase.
Right.
It's not superhero fatigue.
People go see good movies.
It's woke fatigue.
They went woke after the Avengers Endgame or whatever.
Now, I am ignorant to Marvel movies because of the core ones, the up to Endgame or Infinity War, whatever, there's like 20, right?
I've seen five.
I've only seen like five of them.
Oh, okay.
Because I can't stand that Marvel humor.
I just can't go watch them.
I hate it.
And this is very snobby of me.
Sure.
As a comic book artist and writer, I resent comic book movies and TV.
Sure.
Because the thing that makes a comic book a comic book more than anything else is the drawing.
That's what defines them.
If you take the drawing out, it's a novel.
So if you have movies with real-life actors, where's the drawing?
And as someone who's been passionate about drawing since I was, I don't know, two, three years old, I resent it.
It's like, those aren't comics.
These are comics.
You got to draw them.
You know what I mean?
And that's a snobby, elitist comic book guy opinion.
Fine, you want to go watch it, watch it.
But I just like, no, they shouldn't be.
Yeah, he's a purist.
You're a purist.
I understand that.
I understand that.
So you're kind of like, you would take Alan Moore's side where like Zack Snyder did Watchmen and everyone's like, wow, no one could adapt that.
And you did it, Zach Snyder.
And then, you know, he's just like, I don't care.
I'm going to watch it.
Yeah.
Alan Morris is like, didn't want anybody adapting his stuff.
I think comic books were better when it was a niche hobby and it wasn't a mainstream thing.
Because you've got a lot of people coming in who don't understand the art and they have all these opinions.
And then if you look at the comic book industry now, it being the most popular thing in the world for the last 15 years has only hurt the art form.
It really has.
It has not helped it at all.
It hasn't driven people back to the comics.
Right.
It's just driven people to the cinematic universe.
It's feeding on itself, right?
So they're capitalizing on it, Stanley, or at least dead now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you want to know what's going on.
Now, don't think I wouldn't make movies of Big Man Comics because I want one of those checks that has so many zeros on it.
It sounds like it looks like it says, ooh, I'm a challenge.
Let's talk about it.
We'll talk about that.
All right.
But anyway, so hey, I think DC probably won.
DC season.
All right, let's move on then.
We've got hate mail.
You used to be good.
Adam Ford.
Adam Ford.
I really miss Adam Ford.
Okay, we heard that Blue Sky was the hot new tolerant social media site.
So the B tried it out.
This is awesome.
Our first post.
Travis, why don't you read it?
So, yeah, I guess they're saying that our post was mistakenly labeled the first time.
So we thought we should run it back.
So yeah, their very first post was just labeled intolerance.
So I guess, yeah, they don't just like mute you or ban you.
They'll just say intolerance.
Yeah, they give you a label.
They slap it on any post.
I mean, I don't even know.
Did we scarlet letter?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like a scarlet letter.
I guess we posted the Rachel Levine clip.
So that's our Rachel Levine.
Oh, of course that was the first thing we had.
So then they're like, intolerance.
They're like, well, I think we were mistakenly labeled.
Let's try it again.
Yeah.
Intolerance.
And we instantly got a reply from Jason S., who just says, you guys are rodents to society.
I've been watching Megan Basham do this too, and it's been absolutely entertaining.
She's so great.
Because people are just like, how are they not kicking you off?
Because you think they would just throw a tantrum and just throw it.
They probably will.
Yeah, but at some point.
Oh, yeah.
Joel Berry tried it out himself as well.
And if you see Joel Berry's profile picture here, for those of us who are just listeners or maybe blind.
Or maybe blind.
Maybe deaf.
Maybe they just have their eyes closed really tight.
Yeah.
Some people fall asleep to the sound of my voice.
Don't judge them.
No, don't judge them.
Joel Berry posts, and this was his profile name.
It's like plant dad, gamer, amateur chef.
I will never stop.
Never stop fighting for democracy.
He's just plant dad.
And then, yeah, and then this guy named Doug specifically highlighted Joel's profile.
Can you all do me a personal favor and block the owner of the Babylon Bee's Blue Sky account to wall him off from the interesting parts of the site?
I hate his guts and would like his experience here to be 100% resist lib echo chamber.
Thank you.
It sounds like it already is that experience.
Kind of.
We talked about this.
I don't want to derail this, but we talked about this before we got rolling.
Why can't the left entertain the idea that they may be wrong about something?
You saw the election.
We were talking about this right before that, oh, they lost the election and they're coming out with every reason why.
And it's like, ah, they're just racist, homophobic, sexist.
And the way we'll win next time is we're just going to call them bigots even harder next time.
And it never crosses our mind, like, maybe I'm wrong about this.
Or maybe we need to just at least have a conversation and these people are worth talking to.
Right.
And they're not just racist bigots.
It's crazy.
This is amazing.
So there's this meme that's going around too.
And it's the dude from the Babylon B trying to blend in with Blue Sky, Lumi Protestant.
Oh, it's just the guy from Blues Clues.
Blues Clues with a bunch of like Afghani Taliban guys.
That's funny.
It's actually really funny.
And yeah, one resident we talked Turkey to, which apparently is their name, they said, Babylon B editor-in-chief Kyle Mann has passed away from complications due to getting a Transformers toy stuck in his rectum when it suddenly transformed.
In lieu of flowers, send donations to the Black Rifle Coffee Foundation for veterans who mistook the gas for the breaks in their Dodge Charger.
I don't even get that.
Oh, that's a really first of all, it's violent.
That's the one thing I'm getting from it.
And he put a lot of effort into it.
He did.
I would say this.
And make himself sound really witty.
Comedy isn't easy.
No.
You know, you do it.
I do it.
You do it.
But I'll say comedy.
Here's why the left can't meme and be funny because comedy requires truth.
It's just the unexpected truth.
You know, logic is ABC.
Comedy is ABD.
You never saw it coming, but it's still true.
Yeah.
And his thing has no truth in it, so it's not funny.
You can just see he's just shaking with rage.
Yeah, yeah.
Like a typical soy boy, the soy boy rage.
No, they're just crying.
I'm angry at my dad.
I'm 16.
So Jeff Desamara said, The Babylon B colon, as funny as prostate cancer.
I think it's funny that he has a colon in there.
Yeah.
I think he's got to workshop some of his material a little more.
Gotta work on it.
Woodmasters.
As bored right-wingers start to flock to Blue Sky, the moderation team will face one of its first big challenges: keeping the place from turning into a sewer of bigotry.
I'll make it a little more whiny.
Sorry.
Thankfully, this is actually easier to combat than you would think.
He meant think.
Than you would think.
Simply ban the big accounts that come over to break tea.
Oh, and then he slams his door.
But it's TOS.
Nobody knows.
Terms of service.
Oh, terms of service.
All right.
There we go.
Yeah.
Phil Ox Stan account.
These are really, really great names.
The Babylon B laugh crying about not being allowed to post on a social media service not intended for them is pretty wild considering True Social.
I don't know why.
Not intended for them, which is so funny.
I think X and True Social are intended literally for everybody, which is why I think it's so funny that they're so worried.
They want to have like a little corner.
They can all just be yeah, they want it to be just for them.
Just for them.
They loved having Twitter and every institution under their just bullying control.
They loved it.
Yeah, but they never had, I mean, that's the thing.
They did have a space like this when X was run.
Can you imagine by all those other people having the temerity to ban the president of the United States?
I don't, I, you know, I don't like Obama and all them, but if I was running Twitter, I would not ban the president.
Who do you think you are?
It wouldn't even have thought of that.
Like it wouldn't, like, this is the president, dude.
It's so crazy.
Who do you think you are doing that?
Like, Facebook did it and YouTube?
Like, you see, the universe is nuts.
And it was, you know, Jeff Bezos and all those guys.
It's super weird.
But hey, all right, guys.
Thank you so much for today.
This is awesome.
Thanks for tuning in.
Thanks, Gabe, for being here.
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