Gina Carano Talks Disney Lawsuit, Beep Bop Boop-Gate, And Faith
The Mandalorian and MMA star, Gina Carano, sat down with Babylon Bee editor-in-chief Kyle Mann to talk about Elon Musk and X helping her in her lawsuit against Disney, getting canceled over a 'beep/bop/boop', and God being bigger than all of the enemies we face in the world. This episode of The Babylon Bee Podcast is brought to you by Alliance Defending Freedom: http://joinADF.com/bee Support The Babylon Bee by becoming a premium subscriber: http://babylonbee.com/plans The Official The Babylon Bee Store: https://shop.babylonbee.com/ Follow The Babylon Bee: Website: https://babylonbee.com/ Twitter: / thebabylonbee Facebook: / thebabylonbee Instagram: / thebabylonbee
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The Babylon Bee Podcast.
Hey, everyone, welcome to the Babylon Bee Interview Show.
Today we are talking to Gina Carano.
Welcome, Gina.
And most, Gina, what you want to hear about from Gina, obviously, is pocket knives in Montana.
So that's where we're going to start.
Jared, I'm carrying my grandfather's pocket knife.
It's a Barlow today.
I don't actually know how old this is, but it's like still sharp.
That's really cool.
But you live in Montana where people actually have pocket knives that they wear in their pockets all the time.
Yeah, so I moved out of California and I went to Montana.
And it doesn't have anything to do with knives per se, although I do.
I mean, when I was living here, I was carrying knives non-stop.
And now up there, it's like an open carry state.
An open carry knife state.
Can you not carry knives in California?
Well, I don't know about that, but I just, I know that's less than six inches or something.
Oh, there's nothing.
Huh?
Oh, they can't have the crocodile Dundee.
You probably can't carry a machete around Los Angeles.
No, you can't.
It has to be less, like, shorter than six inches.
I think you can.
Oh, interesting.
Well, okay.
That's very interesting, Jude.
Weapons.
I guess where I was going with Montana was like weapons and how you can carry them and it feels safe and it's nice.
But I was on my way to my cousin's funeral and I had moved all of my stuff with my gun from a small purse into like this big like medicine woman purse.
And I moved my gun into there.
And so then I. Like Dr. Quinn?
Yeah.
Yes.
It was a Dr. Quinn purse.
Dr. Quinn medicine woman.
Yeah, you like open it up and it's like got the firm bottom.
Like I just absolutely love it.
I somehow don't remember her purse, but I remember the show.
You would.
You would look at his purse and be like, this is a medicine woman.
Like Dr. Quinn's purse.
Well, she said medicine woman.
I'm thinking, you know.
Anyway, sorry.
So I put the gun in there and then I'm on a rush to go to the airport and I'm just rushing and, you know, going through security and go through security, get to the other side.
They cut off the line after me and everybody looks like super nervous.
And I was like, oh my goodness, what's happening right now?
Like I had a big curling iron like this side, six inches curling iron.
And then it's above the caliphate.
It's longer than six.
Yeah.
And so I was like, hmm, you know, somebody's a problem.
And then I was like, then I looked after me and I was like, okay, so I might be the problem, but it's just the curling iron people.
And then like one of the ladies went with the security ladies went up to the other ladies and she was like, this.
And I was like, oh, I'm really the problem.
I was like, oh, I was like, I like, almost yelled out.
I was like, I forgot it was in there.
And I'm like, this looks even more guilty.
Stop speaking.
I'm like, I'm so sorry.
And I was like, just stop.
And I was like, oh, defeat.
And so they took me in the back.
And it was just really funny because we've got this like woman.
She's, and she verbally said, she's like, she was a TSA person.
She's like, this is my first time with this kind of case.
And I was like, oh, don't.
Yeah.
I was like, well, I wouldn't tell people that.
And I was like, but I said, look at my face.
And I calmed her down.
I said, look at my face.
This is the face.
If when somebody's acting like this, this is somebody who's innocent.
So if somebody's not acting like this, then maybe be really nervous.
But then, like, the cop, because there's a cop and a TSA agent that have to handle this, the cop came in and he was just like, yeah, this happens so much in Montana.
You wouldn't believe they just forget it's in there, like us women in our purses.
He's like, I'm just upset that you didn't have it in a holder like you should have.
And so it was really cute.
And so I was like, am I on the watch list?
And I was like, oh, I'm probably on it anyways.
Yeah, that's what did they know who you were?
I think the, I think the cop did.
The TSA lady, I don't think she, I think she was just all flustered and didn't know what to do.
But yeah, I'm sure every time I go through that airport now, they're like, there she is.
Your picture's on the wall.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But they were really sweet.
So I went to the funeral and I came back and they were like, your gun's ready for pickup.
And I'm like, this is sweet.
All right.
Well, they're like, if this happened in any other state, you might have a bigger problem.
Was the gun loaded?
No, it wasn't loaded.
And that would have been a bigger problem.
But it definitely had like, you know, the bullets in the mag and like next to it.
So TSA considers that loaded, even if it's not in the gun.
So it's just a really interesting thing.
But the cop made sure to tell me, he was like, you actually haven't broken any laws.
You've broken a contract with TSA.
So there's going to be a big fine.
And, but you actually haven't broken a law necessarily, which I thought when a big fine.
Like, how much is a big fine?
$15,000 to $3,000.
Jeez.
That's a lot.
That's more than the gun.
That's a big mistake.
Yeah.
No, it wasn't more than the gun.
Oh, yeah.
There we go.
That's interesting.
I've lost so many knives at airports because I forget about them.
Yeah.
You just toss them.
Yeah.
I just, well, they keep them.
And like, I'm like, oh, like, I had a, what do you call this?
I had like a K-bar knife the last time I was flying.
Anyways, I'd forgotten about it.
And it was in I go in there and the guy's like, bro, is this yours?
And I was like, Merry Christmas, dude.
Yeah.
He's like, yours now.
He's like, well, I can't keep it.
So I'm like, oh, that's lame.
There's probably like this big pile of knives somewhere.
Yeah, right.
This is like the whole they can't keep it thing.
Like the cops find the drugs.
Oh, we're not going to keep it.
We're just going to redistribute.
We're not going to actually do this, Coke.
Sorry, cops.
No, we didn't mean all cops.
We just mean certain.
Never mind.
Let's just move on.
We'll come back.
We back the blue here.
We're keeping that in.
Hashtag not all cops.
I've personally never brought a weapon to the airport, so I have nothing to contribute here.
When I was a kid, I brought firecrackers, like black cats.
Remember those on your through the TSA?
Through TSA, but it was back before all the stuff.
So you could just travel with firecrackers, you know, no big deal.
Wasn't the TSA kind of a new thing?
Were they even around then?
Like in 2000, like before 2001?
Yeah.
Because that's not when it was founded.
I don't know.
Okay, anyway, you guys aren't here.
What is the history?
We were just kidding, of course.
You're not here to hear about pocket knives in Montana.
You're here because Gina Carano is known as Crush from American Gladiators.
Oh, is that why I'm not sure?
That's why everybody's excited.
You may know her.
You may know her as Crush from American Gladiators.
So how did you get into this?
I mean, we're going back to the start here, but MMA, American Gladiators, all that.
Who is your Mr. Miyagi?
Master Toddy actually had a Master Toddy, which was so funny that like, you know, you show up to a mixed martial arts gym having no idea about, you know, any martial arts and all of a sudden they're like, okay, so this is Master Totty.
And I'm like, oh, you want me to call him Master?
You want me to call him Master?
And then it just becomes kind of like that environment of Master Toddy.
And you like, you know, Swatika, you bow and learn their culture.
And it's a really cool thing.
So long story short, I got into mixed martial arts because me and my fiancé now, who I've known for 22 years, he was my first love when I was 19.
And by the time we hit 21, it was just a really bad environment that we were in, you know, a lot of drugs, a lot of alcohol, a lot of problems.
And definitely we were not headed in the right direction.
And then his dad actually told him at some point, if you put that 40 of old English down, which I don't know if you guys have ever had, but I mean, I tried one like a year ago.
And I was like, we used to drink to see how much we could drink of this.
Like, you know, it's pretty aggressive.
I would just give it a try just to kind of understand what that's the recommendation.
Just try it.
Just give it a try.
You have to try what, you know, when you hear these like 40 of old English stories, you have to understand how horrific it is.
It is so awful.
And we would just drink, you know, one or one and a half.
I could only get to like one and a half when I was in high school, but like people knew, I mean, that was a malt.
That's like a malt beverage or something, right?
But like the hardcore guys got it to two.
I mean, okay.
I don't think I even could get to one and a half without just like being ridiculous.
Can we get the crew to run out and grab a 40 of old English while we're I think you should I think you need to try it just to understand the mentality of send out the intern.
Yeah.
Intern.
He's under 21.
Just so you could get like the idea of what that tastes like and how self-damaging I guess, you know, people are at certain ages.
So then his dad said basically to him, you know, if you put down that full, you know, old English right now, I'll give you some money to live your dream and do something you would love to do.
And he'd always been into, Kevin Ross is his name.
He'd always been into Bruce Lee and mixed martial arts.
And so he started training and I was just completely head over heels over him.
So I started training.
And then my life just kind of completely took a different turn.
So yeah.
You just had a gift for it.
It was just something.
There's something natural about physical violence.
Such a strange thing.
I mean, my family's not like shocked about that.
Not that I was physically violent with my family, but I've always been an athlete.
But like, you know what I think it was is gymnastics.
So if you have kids, get them in gymnastics first before you get them into other sports.
And, you know, you just learn so much about your body.
So you started with gymnastics and then moved in.
Yeah.
Well, I started with dance, tap, jazz, and ballet.
We'd like to see that.
Can we do that now?
You like to see that?
He's like a little dancer team.
No, just tap, just tap.
You know what?
I think tap's going to make a comeback.
Yeah.
I think tap is so cool.
It is cool.
I mean, I had a friend in high school that, I mean, this is a weird story, but he taught himself how to tap dance.
He like was one of those gate kids, you know?
Yeah.
Gate.
Gate, gate kids.
Gate kids.
I heard what I heard.
Yeah.
Anyway, so he was really good at the guitar and he's like, I'm tired of this.
I'm master the guitar.
I'm going to learn how to tap dance.
So he got a board and he and he worked on it in his room and he became this incredible tap dancer.
I think it's so cool.
I think tap, I want to see a lot more tap in our future.
Something like, you know, very jazz and cool about it that I just absolutely love.
Very cool.
Yeah, and all of our old movies, you know?
So if you guys end up making a, you know, making a film.
Maybe this is the answer.
The tap dance.
The tap dance.
Or we could do something like a good remake, like the one of the old ones, like, you know, White Christmas.
No more remakes.
Yeah.
Babylon Be the Musical, and it's just all tap dance numbers.
You know, it doesn't have to be just tap dance.
You just got ballet.
You could do ballet.
I'm sold on the tap.
I want to do an Afro jazz piece.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So do you still MMA train and do you think you could beat one or both of us up?
Yeah.
Serious question.
Serious question.
You know, you just never know.
When you look at people, I don't know your guys' backgrounds.
Assume that I have.
That's a fighter's response, though.
Assume that I've never trained.
You can never really know somebody's, how strong someone is, what they do, how in shape they are.
At the moment, I'd say I was not very in shape, but I still am, you know, got a, you're not, you're not as in shape.
You got a pretty heavy punch.
So it depends on if your chins are that, you know, how your chins are.
How's your chin?
I don't know.
No one's ever asked me that.
Have you never been punched?
I've never been punched.
Oh man.
How do you, I don't know how you avoided it.
Yeah.
How am I?
As Kyle, yeah.
Just being who you are.
Just being the Babylon B or I look punchable?
No, I mean, it's just I got punched so much in my life.
I've gotten punched so much in my life and I don't have like half the mouth on me probably.
With your mouth?
No, I don't, I don't like insult people in person, just on the internet.
Oh, just as the Babylon Bee.
And you've never, I just, I don't know how you've gotten this far.
I've been punched so much.
I have an excellent job.
You do.
You say you can get punched and just throw some steak on it.
Yeah.
You know, if it's rocked me, it's been, you know, it was hard.
And I've been punched by, you know, like where.
Professionals.
Professionals.
Where like they punch you and then your feet can't catch up with your head fast enough, you know?
Definitely like seen the bright light a bunch of times.
We were watching some American Gladiators clips ahead of this.
Yeah.
And you kicked some lady in the face.
It was a step.
Well, she said it was a step.
It looked like they told us.
That lady was so mad, though.
She was so upset.
Oh, my goodness.
But it was the whole reason because she said, kicks are illegal.
And I was like, but it was a step.
And there's a difference.
Okay.
And I defend that to this day.
I've been misunderstood for so long.
You obviously never been kicked.
Now, would you still return to fighting to face Ronda Rousey?
Oh, that was just like such the transition.
I'm not any.
She's making fun of my interviewing skill.
Oh, no, I'm not.
And saying that I'm super punchable.
So this is a couple of times.
I got punched a couple times.
I just want to.
Oh, yeah.
How is your chin?
I mean, it's a great question.
I don't know if I have like a wide enough like study, you know, the pool for that.
It's only been a few times, so I don't know.
Well, okay, so what happened in a few times?
Well, I got slugged by my best friend once, just like right here.
True best friend.
And that hurts.
It hurts.
Right there hurts a lot.
And then I got hit.
I got kicked in the head a few times.
I'm like, right there isn't the hurtful place.
Yeah.
That's not the best.
That's not the most like right here.
Where's the most hurtful place?
Well, this is where you're going to get knocked out when you get your jaw rocked.
The nose is a painful place.
So speaking of chins, you previously said that you would return to fighting for a chance to face Ronda Rousey.
Would you still do that?
When did I say that?
I don't know.
Somebody looked it up on the internet.
Oh, well, I wouldn't believe everything you read on the internet.
I, you know, it's an interesting thing.
Like, I, you know, have, I'm not in anywhere close to fighting shape.
The last two years of my life has been, or three years of my life has just been, I got dropped on my head, basically, you know, by the entertainment business, the Hollywood business.
And, you know, I thought my life was really picking up steam and going in a certain direction.
And then everybody that was supposed to be protecting me, most everyone, just dropped me on my head.
And so then put, you know, basically put my life in danger without a doubt, you know, living in California.
Now the paparazzi know where I live.
I've got stalkers showing up and had to hire my own private security.
And I just had to get out of California to just kind of disappear, I guess, restart.
I thought, so Ben Shapiro offered me the movie opportunity to go over there and work with them.
I thought I'd be working with them longer, but we only did one movie and it was just kind of do the movie and done.
So I thought I'd be in Nashville right now or back then.
But then we ended up doing the movie up in Montana.
And then I just remember being up in Montana and looking around and just being like, okay, this is where I want to be because I couldn't breathe during those years of chaos and cancellation and being kind of like stabbed in the back by, you know, everyone.
And it was very like, you'd like to think like, you know, oh, and we tried to, and I did.
I tried to put out, I'm so strong, you know, I'm trying to fight back.
I'm punching back and all of that.
But I knew deep down that this is, you know, I'm a very sensitive person and it's going to take some time to recover from this.
And so I finally have my feet underneath me.
I've got a home now.
That took a while.
And so now I, you know, I think it's all about, you know, my spiritual, my spirituality has grown in the last couple years in ways that I just has been the biggest blessing.
And then my mind is kind of like, because I think of my spirituality has grown, my mind has become better and less sick.
And so now it's just about translating that all over into my body.
So to answer your question, who knows what I'll be able to do with my body once I get it healthy?
Okay.
Yeah.
Long, long story on to say, I don't know.
Watch out, Rhonda Rousey.
Yeah, she's coming back.
No, Rhonda, she's coming for you.
If this body gets healthy ever.
This is the clickbait.
I'll be 60 years old and I'll be like, it's healthy now.
We're going to do the clickbait hit.
Gina says she's crushed.
Ronda Rousey.
She's coming for you.
Rousey.
That's the Daily Wire headline.
And then cut to, I was so sick.
Exactly.
She's really having a hard time.
Yeah, so you go from kind of MMA into entertainment, film, Hollywood.
And then like you said, your life just took a crazy.
It sounds like your life took several left turns.
Did you expect the kind of or rather right turns?
Well, depending.
Depending.
But yeah.
Wasn't a good joke.
Let's move on.
Politics joke.
Politics.
Was that a politics joke?
I think.
I don't even know anymore.
It's so long ago.
Man, I had such a good transition, too.
Sorry.
I finally had a good one.
So your life took all these unexpected turns.
So you go into Hollywood.
I mean, like, was that even something you planned going from, you know, MMA and these like entertainment things like that into Hollywood?
Or was that like, did that come out of the blue too when you started?
Yeah, no, my life has been just kind of this very interesting.
I think I've just been very open-minded from a young age.
I just know that, you know, earlier on, my family was like, you know, you have to go to college.
You have to do, you know, doctor, lawyer, you have to make something of yourself.
This isn't going to be a free ride.
You know, and so that was kind of like the energy coming from my family.
And so you feel like, okay, well, I'm doing what I have to do.
I'm going to UNLV.
I'm going to college.
And you're feeling completely not passionate about any of it.
And then I'm just the type of person that, like, when I started doing mixed martial arts, my whole entire like brain switched and started really, it was life-changing.
The moment to walk into a gym and be just completely obsessed with and let that take over my life just changed everything.
So did I walk into the gym and, you know, Master Toddy would say, oh, she walked into the gym and said I want to be a fighter.
It's like, no, I just walked into the gym because I needed to, you know, like, I needed to end up somewhere.
And so my life basically ended up somewhere healthier.
My life has just been basically this really fascinating.
I walk into the gym, Master Toddy teaches me the authentic version of Muay Thai.
I end up being good at it.
I end up changing games there and opening up doors for women's MMA.
Then I lose a fight and while I'm losing that fight, Steven Soderberg, a director, very well-known director, is watching that fight with his wife.
And his wife is like, you know, why don't you put her in a film?
And so then that goes from there.
And then I'm like struggling through like the independent films and some really, you know, top-notch films, you know, or popular films.
And then from that, Jon Favreau sees me, you know, you know, doing the whole independent slash, you know, action movie in the history.
Yeah.
And so he sees me and he puts me in The Mandalorian.
And then I get canceled from then The Mandalorian.
And, you know, Ben Shapiro comes and he's like, here you go.
I'm going to try to take the sting off of this.
And then so that happens.
And then I've been in the desert for a while.
And then what happens?
You know, Elon Musk comes and here he is.
He's like, you know, I'm going to, you know, help you fight this battle.
And it's just been nothing on earth that I could ever plan.
But I mean, I feel like God has just kind of like put me in this very unique existence of situations like that that don't seem to normally happen to people.
So you talk about God a little bit.
You've said it a couple of times.
Yeah.
So what you're in your spiritual journey and stuff, what does that look like for you now?
Like, how's what's your relationship with God?
It's great.
It's great.
No, it was for, I know, I grew up a Christian, but I guess like I just kind of like didn't, in the last three years, that's just grown in a way that, you know, I, you know, I don't know what kind of Christian I was before, but I really feel that every single day.
Like if I don't read something in the morning to set me off on the right path, then I feel like I just get bumps and bruises all day long and I'm like off.
And so I feel almost like new to it all.
And I just, I am really grateful.
I feel like, you know, God's really kind of like used my life to possibly take the sting off of some a very painful time that we've all been through in the last four years and that people out there through my life, you know, didn't feel so alone in what they were going through.
And I think, when it comes down to that, then it's been all worth it.
Yeah, but i'm by no means like this, like perfect.
You know, i'm such a flawed, like ridiculous human.
I am constantly like oh, making mistakes, making the same mistakes, and you know I, you know, but you sound like a Christian.
Yeah, but I am trying to take more notice of it and I never tried before.
I always thought, you know, i'm just living, and now i'm like okay, I'm thinking about things deeper than I ever did.
And yeah, that's where I'm at now.
And it really feels good.
It's really cool.
Yeah, it's awesome.
So you guys do all this fun stuff.
You got to do extraction, Deadpool, Fast and Furious part seven through 20, 20 or whatever.
Yeah.
Were you two?
You were two of them?
No, just one.
Just the one?
I was in Fast and Furious.
Fast 6.
Yeah.
Yeah, you were in the video game.
She was in the video game.
She was in the video game?
One of them.
Wasn't there something?
It was one of your other credits, right?
Oh, no.
I'm sure I've been in plenty of video games and I just don't know it and never got paid for it.
Well, I admit the first time I saw you was in Command and Conquer Red Alert 3 and you played Natasha and the Russian soldier thing.
Was this the highlight of your career?
there's a lot of fans of that um that was a one-day shoot that they had me come in and they're like just a whirlwind They're like, they're like, I was like, don't make me say anything.
They're like, you know, you have to use a Russian accent.
And I was like, here we go.
I was like, it was actually just.
I saw like the behind the scenes where you're like just standing in front of a green screen.
And it definitely looked like you're just like, I don't know what I'm doing.
Yes.
I even know what.
I was fighting at that.
I wasn't like an actress at that point.
I think it was.
Like you fighting.
Yeah, right, right.
Yeah.
So it's interesting.
Taking a fighter, well, at least me.
So maybe, you know, I think Condor McGregor might be a lot different.
And it just depends on the fighter.
But for me, I'm very much so an introvert most of my life.
And it was always like, do not show pain when you're in a fight.
So I have, I believe, 14 wins, one draw and one loss in Muay Thai.
And then I have seven and one, seven wins, one loss in gauge fighting.
And so through that whole time, about like eight or nine years that I'm fighting, you're taught not to show emotion or expression.
Like, you know, somebody, if you get a good leg kick or if you get popped in the nose or if you see stars for a second, you're not supposed to show that to the opponent.
You know, the more, the tougher you act to that, you know, which is sometimes like when you see, you know, one of the fighters get knocked pretty good and they start laughing like crazy.
It's because they're trying to, it's a reverse psychology, trying to get back into this head.
Like, you didn't get me.
So mine was always like to, you know, keep, keep it, you know, never let them know that you got hurt.
And you kind of have it, you have a great poker face.
That is when you're fighting.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
I need to take notes for the first time I get punched.
As an actor, I want to take notes.
Just like a girl.
Anyway, yeah.
But then translating that over to acting.
Yeah.
Like, oh, I have to show emotion though.
Now they're like, you know, like the stunt guys are like, no, you know, we need to go through a whole course of you learning how to take these like pretend, you know, punches and hits and like really overdo it.
That didn't hurt me at all.
You know, because like I'm all like tight in here.
And they're like, no, no, you got to like, you know, you got to swing wide.
You got to kick wide.
Yeah, it's a big drama.
So it was definitely like a different whole different world.
Yeah.
And I was, I was not, you know, definitely a natural actor.
I feel like I started really getting the hang of it in the Mandalorian seasons.
I started to really like settle in to feeling like taking, I'm taking myself seriously now.
And I'm going to be an actress.
Yeah.
Well, you were great Mandalorian.
Manalorium was awesome.
We all love it, obviously.
I mean, love it.
That was the thing us kids, you know, you're like big Star Wars fans as kids.
You know, it's like that is the thing we always wish they would make.
Like everybody wanted to know about the Mandalorians.
That was what we pretended to be on the playground in high school.
When he says we, he means him.
Well, I'm just talking for myself.
I was always, I never got a Han Solo guy.
I don't know.
Oh, so you wanted to be the Mandalorian?
No, you do.
You want to be Boba Fett.
He was the most popular, you know, so all that stuff.
Well, I go to these fan expos, and I can't tell you how adorable and how much like these are the people that I absolutely love to like, hug and interact with, because it's so sweet that you know, you can, you know, talk about like these characters and these things that you're, you're in your childhood and you can dress up and there's just no judgment at fan expos.
It's just so much fun and I never thought I would be like a fan expo, a fan expo person, and then i'm just like the people there are the people that need the hugs the most and they need the safe place the most.
So I absolutely love, you know, I totally get that kind of mentality.
That's cool.
You're like ministering to the, the people there.
It's like a great opportunity for I get to hug them, it's a ministry for you.
I just get to hug them.
I, you know, I have mothers come up to me and cry um, I have people with like social anxiety.
I have people with like health problems and um, you know, like a lot of the people during the covet season were having like the plexiglass in between the um, you know, for the photos and and and.
When you came into my photos I was just grabbing them and hugging them and holding them close and it's like just I wanted to physically touch them all.
I wanted to like touch them and hold them and let them know it's going to be okay, because I think that's what we needed and so I love that.
About the fan exposure, yeah, that must have been.
Uh, I mean, the whole experience with the Mandalorian was probably so cool and it was probably such a bummer when everything went down.
Yeah, it was a highlight.
It was a highlight of my career to go into Manhattan Beach Studios and it was about 12 minutes door to door from where I lived at the time.
Oh, man and um, it was just so cool, like to enter this world and it was really like a galaxy.
And um, you know, I never had any problems with people on set or any directors or any cast members.
You know I was a person that would like go to Manhattan Beach Meets.
I don't know if you guys have ever been there, but they had the most amazing beef jerky and so one time with like the special effects people I brought, like i'm like we're gonna have a beef jerky off and i'm gonna bring you the best, best beef jerky i've ever had.
And so, like they're like, all right, you know, it's all a big competition.
We, like you know have, and I think I won that one because every I was like taking a background and everybody's having beef jerky.
Um, cut to covid because of the beef jerky.
No, i'm just kidding.
Yeah, you spray it, but no, I just had such a wonderful time.
Um, Jon Favreau is just one of the most incredible men in this business and on planet earth.
Jon Favreau is such an incredible man and I had such a um.
It's just like he he was.
He was capable of, like you know, to each different actor.
He was capable of you like giving you a diamond uh, of a character and making you hold this diamond, that you felt so special and wanted to do so much honor to this character.
I've never wanted to do more honor to a character and um, because of his belief and his words, I was able to hold that and do very well with it and um, so I finally got my feet underneath me with the acting thing.
It does make a humongous difference when you have a good director.
Oh, it's like the, it's like night and day yeah, and you also got to spend a couple years with one character too, so that must have been awesome.
Like as an actor, you didn't feel that way about Natasha and Red Alert 3.
As much.
They're handing you this diamond.
I feel like I don't know.
I don't know what kind of, she just had a big gun.
That was her diamond.
That was the character.
Kara Dune had a diamond and a gun.
What motivates Natasha?
Do honor to she has a big gun.
She has a big gun.
She has big gun.
For some reason, they're always giving me big guns.
Everybody's always just passing me big guns.
That's pretty cool.
And then you bring them to the airport.
Yeah.
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So were you a big Star Wars fan or is this something you were kind of like diving into and figuring out the universes?
Diving into and figuring out the universe.
I was very much so just clueless.
All these nerds and these weird characters.
No, I just, please, I've, you know, I'm a.
I'm going to say nerds in an insulting way.
I know it's one of them.
I wish I was more of a nerd.
I think I'm actually a dork more.
More of a dork fan.
Yeah, which I feel like the nerds are like the intelligent ones.
I feel like more like dorky.
But no, I wasn't a Star Wars fan.
I didn't know.
I just know that, you know, I'd gone to the movies and came out feeling good.
And what a cool world that you get to walk into a theater.
I love Star Wars and theaters.
And you just get to walk in and disappear and come out and feel good.
But Kevin, you know, he's more of a critic, you know?
So he would be like, you know, walk in and he'd come out and kind of be like grumbling.
I'm like, Kevin, what are you grumbling about?
Like, what is your problem?
That's the nerds.
So Kevin's more of the nerd.
He'd be like, just, you know, like the trillion, you know, the original three.
And it's hard to explain it to you.
And I was like, okay, we'll calm down.
I mean, it was, do you feel good?
And he's like, yeah, because I'm with you.
And I'm like, it's a slick couldn't have survived in space.
No one hates Star Wars like Star Wars fans.
There is.
There is quite the Star Wars fans are probably, I think, one of the most intense fan groups in the world, which is how I feel like I ended up, you know, and where I'm at.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was in between.
Well, you guys can all tell from this interview, Gina's very mean.
She's very abrasive and aggressive.
And you can tell why Disney let her go.
Yeah, it seems like such a contradiction.
I feel like you're, because you're such a sweet person, but you could probably kick someone's butt.
Like, and also, also, everyone's mad at you.
It's so strange.
It's been a strange existence, I'd say.
You know, like, I don't understand why I am the way I am.
It is like a bizarre world in some ways.
It is.
It's so weird.
Let's go after this lady.
Like, of all the, of all the jerks you meet in Hollywood.
Yeah.
This is the one.
Of all the idiots.
This is the right face.
I'm the one.
Well, I think it kind of shows you like who these people are, really, though.
Because the people that are coming after Gina, you know, the, I don't want to throw people under the bus for your sake, because we've talked about certain people that are producers over there that are ruining the franchise and that kind of stuff.
But those people are these DEI ideologues, you know, like you talk about Star Wars fans, but then there's like the wokies and that's a whole other cult.
The Wookiees?
The Wokies.
Not the Wookies, the Wokies.
They should have like a whole character.
Do you know what Wookiees are in Star Wars?
Well, actually, yes.
I thought that that's what I was going to get.
So I was the first.
Yeah.
So I thought when Jon Favreau had me into the office, he's like, do you know why you're here?
Nobody, my agent, my manager at the time didn't know why I was there.
And I was like, okay, so just I'm a big fan of Jon Favreau.
And so I brought him up, you know, bottle of wine.
I'm like, hi, I'm a big fan.
He's like, well, let me tell you why you're here.
And he said, we're doing this Star Wars show called The Mandalorian.
And I didn't know what a Mandalorian was.
And so my mind just immediately during that just starts racing.
Like, okay, who?
Like, what?
Okay, so I'm going to be wearing.
I was like, I'm going to be, I'm going to be a Wookiee.
Wait, no, no, no.
What's the ones, the furry ones?
Yeah, the Wookiees.
Yeah, the Wookies.
Yeah.
So I thought, oh my gosh, they're going to have me be this like female Wookiee.
And I'm going to have like a helmet.
And I'm going to have like all, like, or like, you know, all the fur and everything.
And so when he was going through all the characters, because I couldn't imagine that they were going to make me this, the character that they made me.
And so I was going through all the characters and all of these, even Carl Weathers had a helmet on at some point.
Rest in peace to that beautiful man.
I love him.
And, you know, his face wasn't even shown at the time.
So there was only like one female face that was really shown.
And I was like, where am I?
You know, she kind of looks like me.
Okay, but okay, so where am I in this?
And he's like, this is the character.
I'm like, the one, like one of the only ones that has a face.
Yeah, everybody's wearing helmets, right?
And I was like, I remember that drive home and I was like, I thought I was going to be a big furball.
And I've got a face in this.
And I don't even know.
Like, I just was just like, oh my gosh, thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I mean, the main character was a man with a helmet on and then a puppet.
And then there was you, the only human.
Yeah.
And Carl, which Carl originally had, Carl had something.
I forget what.
There's an original version of Carl wore his face, but I mean, I mean, Carl shows up and he's just got his beautiful voice and his beautiful face.
And it's like, no, we can't cover this man's face, you know?
So it was kind of cool.
But yeah, it was just such a wow.
I couldn't, that was definitely like, that was amazing.
It was like it could be an insult.
Like, you got a face for a Mandalorian.
You got a face for radio.
Yeah, that's what it was.
Well, I probably worked harder or longer on that set than any of the main actors because nobody could have my face.
You know, like everybody else, you know, got their stun doubles with their helmets on.
All the sand-ins and all that.
Yeah.
So that's actually something we're going to bring up.
You know, it's like, you know, you can put my work log for the last, you know, the first two seasons and compare it to anybody's.
And you're going to see how hard I worked on those and how much time and energy.
And there was no problems on set with me.
I was working on it.
Let's talk about, let's talk about what led to it.
I mean, I know you had the transition.
There was like some social media posts.
There was a thing about like, you know, Jews are being beaten in the streets, but not by Nazis, but by their neighbors.
And you're calling people to love each other and love their neighbors.
And there was the get along, people.
You were like, let's not be Nazis was the essential.
Remember, let's not be like the Nazis.
You remember that?
So how did you find out about it?
And what was the, you know, what was the given reason?
Well, I started speaking out about, you know, it's not like I started off like, you know, you know, damn the man, you know, like, you know, I'm totally like, it's, I started off like very nervous about what a pandemic was.
And I started off like, okay, I got to get to my mom's.
I got to make sure they're taking care of and they're taking this seriously.
I was scared that people were going to end up in the hospital.
I was like making sure that they promised to wear their masks and wipe their feet and keep their shoes outside.
And I was washing down all of their groceries because it was right after the Mandalorian 2 season 2 ended that all of this really like happened.
Actually, it's really funny.
Dave Filoni was so sick in those last couple days, just snot cough.
Like he was, I was like, bro, like you've got something going on right now.
And like, it was just when like we had just started hearing about COVID.
And he's like, I'm finishing this, just like through his snot and cough.
And we were all just like, oh, you know, like, this is.
But so I started off like for the first, you know, however long, a couple weeks, just like, you know, I'm like, I don't, people are going to start turning green and have boils.
Like in my mind, pandemic was very, you know, I didn't know what people were talking about.
You know, like, I didn't know what was.
I think a lot of us were in that, but we didn't know what to think.
It wasn't political at the time.
It was just like, we're all scared.
What is this thing?
And so I went home.
And I mean, I was, I'm intense, you know.
So when I get obsessed about something, like I went, I went through all of like my mom's cleaning closet and I was like wiping down everything in the house.
And then I couldn't clean anything else.
And so then I got into my dad's like or my stepdad's toolbox and I'm like cleaning like this is how intense I can be.
I was like cleaning off his hammers and like I was just like, is there anything else I can clean?
You know, I was very intense about it.
And after I got done like just shining the entire place and organizing everything, I started kind of taking a look at what was going on on the internet.
And then I started kind of noticing things that weren't really like here I am taking it really seriously and not and afraid to go to the grocery store.
And then all of a sudden like, you know, it started progressing into you know protests and then riots and then like you can be this far away from a cop spitting in his face and I'm like those are spittles of like COVID, right?
Like I was so started seeing just kind of like irregularities of you know you can go to a riot and you can't go to church and you can go to Walmart, but these poor mom and pop places are just getting shut down.
And I come from a family that two grandfathers built their business up for from scratch and how hard that was in watching them you know make the names that they made for themselves and how right now there's you know mom and pop places that are just trying to start off and make that name and you're crushing them and you're just destroying them when obviously there's not a problem with people being around people.
So I question the lockdowns heavily.
I question you know the masks originally I made this like post where it's like, hey ladies, get out your bras or your padded bras and you can make your own masks to like save it for the you know hospital employees.
So I was like trying to participate positively, but then I was like starting to see people throw coffee on each other and then like, if you don't wear a mask, you can't do this.
And then I was like, wait, what is what is this turning into?
Like, okay, so I calmed down with that.
And then it's just like, it just like one thing led to another where I was going against the narrative and I was like putting, I just didn't, what I hated to see, which it will always bother me, is like I hated to see people in such fear and have questions, legit questions that they were afraid to ask.
And so I always said, you know, I got to the point where I finally said, you know, you should be more afraid that you're afraid to ask questions to the people that we, that are supposed to work for us, our government.
We should be able to ask these questions about anything and they should be able to be like, okay, let's have a conversation about it.
But conversations at the time weren't, were bad.
And then it finally, like, I just had a target on my back.
I was harassed.
I put.
Beep bop boop very innocently in my bio, because it was, you know, i'm sure you guys remember three years ago.
It was like, say this hashtag, trans rights hashtag, BLM hashtag, a cap hashtag, all of this stuff and you're like it's like i'm not like I, I i'm just like you don't have to do anything.
You could put anything you want on your bio, like this.
This should not be the energy.
It's a very lighthearted joke.
It's not really like it wasn't this super mean, you know pronoun joke where you're like ah, these people with pronouns.
It was just like yeah, Star Wars, I was literally watching a UFC fight and I was like, oh my gosh enough, this has been months of do this, do this, do this.
And I was months of it and I was just like you know what i'm going to put my bio and I was like you know, I was like Kevin, what's like the least, most offensive thing that people?
And he's like I don't know, beep bop boop.
And i'm like yeah, beep bop boop, it's like r2 d2, and I was like that's, I don't want to offend anybody yeah, and i'm like who gets upset about a boop?
You know who on earth can be upset about a boop?
We know who?
I guess we found out yeah, and then I put it.
I put it up there and then I saw the complete meltdown that started taking place and after that I clarified it more than once.
I said okay, this isn't towards the transgender transgender community, this is towards the online mob telling me that I need to do something.
You know, this is to the people that i've got like trash Panda in their bios that are like you need to put your pronouns i'm like your pronouns are in your bio, like this was.
This was to the people that were bullying or trying to bully all of these people to follow their agenda, where it's like, um, so that's why beep bop, boop.
And then it just like, and it just was this massive meltdown with the Disney AND Lucas film that you would never believe, like the struggle session that happened after that.
Wow, so they got everyone together for a struggle session with stones at me.
Was it with a Dei consultant or something like that, or was it with like, swipping you in the middle?
Yeah well, actually some it was a journalist asked me about this the other day and they're like, what did that feel like when that started happening from their, their company?
Um, like what was that feeling when that started happening?
Because you expect you know the mob to be the mob, but you definitely don't expect the company that you've had a really good time working with to um, participate in the mob, right?
And they said, you know what did that feel like for you?
And I said uh, you know those vampire movies that you know.
You got that like like innocent girl that's walking into the club and you, everybody in the club is a vampire except for you.
And like you know that innocent girl that's walking in and then all of a sudden it's like the clock strikes 12 and then like blood starts raining and all of a sudden she's just like what?
And then, like all these teeth just get sunk into all of like every part of her body.
Is this a specific movie?
Is this a real?
Yeah, that was a blade like a blade.
One was that blade.
Yeah, it was.
Remember that.
Like that was very I don't remember, but most visceral scene in the world.
Yeah like yeah, so i'm remembering it from somewhere.
Right, so it's blade.
They walk in and like they're in like a meatlocker and it's like an underground club and it's a bunch, you don't know, it's a bunch of vampires.
They just look like young hipsters, yes.
And then yeah, so like all of a sudden, you know that yeah, like the music changes and then the thing down everywhere and all of a sudden all the teeth come out And then, like, the, you know, I don't know if there was a specific person in that, but that's what it felt like.
Then all the teeth just like started sinking in every part of me.
And I was just like, what's going on?
You know, and that's what I didn't realize you guys were vampires.
That's so weird.
I know.
Did Blade show up in the scene?
Yeah, at the very end of that scene.
Oh, I was like, in my life, no.
Is Ben Shapiro Blade?
Is Ben Shapiro Blade?
Yeah, he was at that point.
All right.
So this was three years ago now that this happened.
And now we're talking about a lawsuit.
So you want to talk about this whole lawsuit thing.
Let's go on.
Well, let me, can I touch on the final post that?
You can say whatever you want.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, the final post I posted like on the tweet fleet version.
And I forget the exact words because it was just a meme kind of retweet.
And it said something about it didn't start with the Nazis.
It started before that.
And my whole, you know, my whole purpose in putting that out there was because in 2020, I never paid attention to politics.
I've never, you know, been involved.
I thought I pay my taxes.
That's good.
I'm going to just create my career here.
Unlike Blade.
What's the point?
Wesley Snipes?
Is that Wesley Snipes?
Oh, Wesley Snipes has always been a political figure.
No, he didn't pay his taxes.
Oh, got you.
That was a very smart joke.
I see where you are.
That was smart.
That was smart.
Thank you, Gina.
I pay my taxes unlike Wesley Snipes.
All right, please continue.
I apologize.
That's actually very smart.
Okay.
You don't have to keep saying, I know it wasn't smart.
No, it was smart.
It was smart.
No, you're really smart.
Yeah, I'm sure I am.
Okay, so basically, I was trying to tell people to stop demonizing people and that to understand through history by demonizing people, it has ended up badly.
And that was just basically what I thought we could all take away from.
Not a controversial statement.
No, I didn't feel like it was.
I felt like it was just kind of like, you know, this is what happened before the Nazis got into power.
They were, you know, can you imagine, you know, having your next door neighbor who you've had dinner with for the last 10 years.
And then all of a sudden, okay, well, all of this propaganda and all of this hate.
And, you know, okay, well, then you stop having dinners.
And then, okay, well, then you kick over the trash can.
And then, and then all of a sudden one day, somebody's knocking, you know, the Nazis are knocking at their door and taking them out and taking all of their furniture.
And it's just like in my head, my naive head, you know, three years, four years ago, I couldn't understand how anybody could just let that happen, you know, or how it got there.
And so my whole tweet was just to accent on that, you know, how that can happen to a population and how we could all learn from it on both sides of the spectrum.
Democrats, Republicans, Independents, people who haven't voted just to keep that in our thoughts.
And I thought that was for everyone.
But apparently, to Disney, it was denigrating people off of their cultural and religious beliefs.
And it was abhorrent.
And I was in shock to be smeared as this anti-Semite, along with everything else that they'd smeared, you know, the mob had smeared me as at that point.
Just in shock.
Like, I've never been called these things in my entire life.
And now you've got the biggest entertainment company in the world backing up these awful allegations of this mob, the very fickle mob.
And so, so yeah, that was very, very hard, very painful for two years.
I just for a few years or three years, I've just been kind of like trying to rebuild my life and you know sitting in this desert.
And then, you know, I was like watching, I've been watching people grow.
You know, the Daily Wire is growing.
Some wonderful things are happening with their company.
I'm not, you know, with their company, but I feel like I was a big part of opening some of those doors for some of those actors who are getting to do what they get to do now.
I'm watching you guys grow.
I'm watching like some justice happen to people.
And, you know, I kept on like thinking, you know, I was like, God, do you think I'm going to get justice?
You know, like, I want justice too.
And I wanted, you know, so badly I wanted it.
But then it was kind of like a very humbling experience because it's like, you have a beautiful life, Gina.
You know, like you have to be grateful for where you're at.
Be grateful that you're alive and give it to him completely.
And, you know, it might not look like justice to you, but he's working on, you know, the behind the scenes.
And you don't know what he's doing.
And you don't know what's you're alive.
Okay.
A lot of my friends aren't alive right now.
I've lost six people in the last three years.
I've lost six loved ones that, you know, that's also what I've been going through.
So everybody's like, where is she?
I'm like, struggling, straight struggling.
Yeah.
And so like a week before, a week before I got the email from X, I finally had given it completely over to God and said, okay, it's yours.
It's yours.
I'm just going to start.
I'm going to restart.
I'm just going to put people around me that I can really know that are coming from a good place.
I'm going to clean out, you know, everybody that I feel like I can't trust.
And I'm just going to just simply start over.
And then a week from that prayer, I got an email from ex lawyers that said we would be very interested in hearing your story and possibly representing you in a case.
And I was like, wow.
Interesting.
I didn't realize that they had reached out to you.
Yeah, over email.
That felt like a sign.
I don't think it gets any more obvious than that.
And, you know, I, and not to put any pressure on the case, you know, but what just this case has done for me already.
It's like when a big, powerful company like that puts those labels and, you know, kind of like smears you like that and defames you, nobody wants to touch you.
In fact, not does nobody not want to touch you, they think it is okay to disrespect you and sink their teeth into you as well and take their shots without even knowing the behind the scenes, without even knowing the real stories.
And so just already by Elon Musk and X, you know, putting out the statement that they're backing me in this, has already just lifted this like giant, like, I feel like I can breathe.
And then I wasn't forgotten.
You know, I wasn't forgotten in this desert.
I was just waiting.
And so, and now I just feel like I don't know what's going to happen.
I just, I'm so grateful to be able to tell my story.
And I'm grateful that professional eyes are going to look into this.
I'm grateful that Disney and Lucasfilm have to go through their emails and have to look at how their company treated their employee at this time.
I'm grateful for a judge to be able to look at it.
I'm grateful for hopefully a jury.
I'm grateful for everybody to be able to see how absurd this situation was.
So that, you know, it makes it so much harder for, you know, a woman or a man to walk into a club not knowing that everybody in there's vampires, you know.
So I just am so grateful.
Elon Musk is um, I think he's gonna go down as a legendary human being in history.
You know, everybody's always asked like, where's our legends?
You know, and in this day and age, like you know, and I think that Elon Musk um, you know we're all very flawed human beings, but I think he's gonna go down in history um, at this point uh, you know he's, he's fighting governments around the world for free speech.
He's fighting our own American government for free speech.
He's fighting for all of these.
I mean, they're taking on a bunch of cases like this um, you know, he's.
Fighting Disney for me, and he's also fighting like the, to the smallest cases, you know.
So he's just really doing a lot and um, and I feel, like you know, I think God's using him in ways that is a pretty beautiful thing.
So it's just mind-blowing.
We like him, do you?
Pretty cool, I mean.
And I, and I say that i've never even met him or had a conversation with him, I can't wait to just shake his hand and just thank him.
You know, I hate to see one thing on the internet that I see happening a lot.
Everybody's like you know well, he's doing this wrong and he's doing this wrong.
And there are everybody's being these like little brats stomping their feet, like what about this and what about this?
And it's like, did you?
He could have just bought Twitter and disappeared.
He didn't even have to ever buy Twitter, like what he has done to date so far, and he's continuing to do this.
I think everybody just needs to take a big, solid moment and be grateful for this person.
Who's put him and his family and his incredible like mother, like you know, they've shouldered this responsibility that our own government hasn't been able to shoulder uh, the most powerful government in the world hasn't been able to get right.
So I think, maybe a little bit of mercy and a little bit of grace, a little bit of faith and a lot of um, gratefulness to this, this random billionaire we all have uh, fighting the good fight yeah so, but as an MMA professional, do you think Elon could beat Zuckerberg?
I actually almost put out you know, it's really funny, and this is before he even took on my case that it was when he, when he put out that um, if you've ever been wronged by your employer, employer or whatever um, it was really funny because I almost put, how about this?
How about you fight Disney for me and i'll destroy Zuckerberg for you?
Oh, come on, can we offer still stands calling Mark Zuckerberg out.
It's official for Elon.
I would in a heartbeat.
It's gonna happen here at the Babylon.
Be off the new headlines.
The new title, Curana says she would destroy this Mark Zuckerberg with pleasure.
He would, too amazing.
Yeah, I would love to see that sponsored by Elon.
Now we're like, Winner gets a cyber truck.
Now I'm seeing it in my head.
Winner gets a cyber truck.
And so do I like the cybertruck?
Are you a fan?
I, you know, I have never been in one.
It looks cool.
I signed up for one.
Or do you think it looks weird?
Are you one of the people?
No, it's like a total, I mean, there's no hate coming from me here.
I actually was staying at this really well-known hotel in town, Los Angeles, and this car drove up and like the, it opened.
And I was like, oh my gosh, what kind of, what is this amazing thing?
And I went back and I was like, it's Tesla.
That's pretty cool.
So, you know, go, you know, I think that's cool.
I think this is what the future we imagined.
You know, Tesla is like what we imagined the future was supposed to look like.
Yeah, it is crazy to think about.
I love this.
Tony Stark character going totally.
Well, his thinking like Batman, because I like Batman, I think, over Tony Stark.
So I wanted to compare Elon to Batman, but then somebody on the internet is like, it's not Batman because we know who he is.
I'm like, okay, okay, just never mind.
Okay, I'm not going to get into the nerd wars.
I'll lose.
Those are the nerds responding.
I was like, I'm going to lose that one.
That's a different convention circuit you can join, I'm sure.
Yeah, it's a whole different thing.
Absolutely.
Well, you know, obviously, best of luck, and we're praying for you in the lawsuit.
And I mean, no matter what happens, like, like you said, it's going to call attention to these things.
And you got to think that employers are going to be a little more careful knowing that Elon's sitting there ready for his lawyers to file a lawsuit when something like this happens.
And hopefully, you know, I just think, I think there's a really wonderful movement right now.
You guys have been just like Elon in your own right, just, you know, sticking up for people that needed to hear a voice or needed to hear something funny and needed to see something and laugh and just that power, that energy needed to happen.
And if it wasn't for all of us doing our little small parts to just stay true to who we are, then I think America today would have looked a lot differently.
So I feel like I haven't met you guys in person, but I feel like I've just been on the same team.
Well, we feel the same way.
And you were an early fan of the B.
So.
Yes, I was one of the early ones.
Maybe that's why you got canceled.
They were going through your follows and they're like, oh, she follows him.
Association.
Well, I'll tell you what.
My thought is you are doing this thing.
We're supporting you.
Nobody's forgotten you.
God has a serious plan for you.
I'm excited to see what God's going to do in and through your life from this point on.
He's obviously allowed you to go through some hard things, but you're not the type of person that buckles under that kind of thing.
And you have God behind you, not just Elon.
I kept on telling myself that.
I kept on saying, God is bigger than Disney.
And that was something I whispered to myself through this whole thing.
And I mean, actually, God, like, I mean, Disney's like this compared.
So I'm glad that I get to talk about that with you guys because I think a lot of people, you know, I wanted to make sure, like, you know, if I ever, anything happened to me tomorrow or in my life that at least I said that.
Yeah.
And I'd like, you know, I think a lot of times people out there feel like they're alone, you know, and that's one of the things that I've loved at the Babylon B gets to do is like they're scrolling social media and you feel like there's this mob against you or whatever.
And it's like, oh, these people are sane or, you know, or we're laughing at the darkness.
And I think there's something powerful about that.
I felt like, I felt like I'll stay true to who I am and the mob will keep on going up and down and all around and do whatever it does.
And by staying true to who I am, it's going to expose them.
And sure enough, I think that's exactly what it's done.
And I have, you know, now I have a responsibility that I am really taking care of that I hope to just continue letting it, my life expose what's happening.
What advice would you give to people that are maybe going through something similar, probably on a smaller scale than you?
This was like one of the most public things that I've seen, cancelings that actually.
Yeah, it was quite aggressive.
Yeah, it was a crazy group.
But like, what advice would you give to those folks?
Get Elon Musk to eat.
I would say, you know, there's been a lot of times in my life and careers, even both in fighting and in acting, where, you know, you feel like your line is here.
And then you feel like, oh, gosh, well, if I just let, if I just go a little past that line, it'll be fine.
You know, if I, you know, and then once you let them move the line closer and more, you know, then the more you're disrespecting yourself.
And so the person that I was at 2020 was a person who had said no a lot in my Hollywood career.
I said no a lot.
And so I would say you've got a line, a precious line, and that is your self-respect and your integrity.
It involves your soul and your mind and your body.
And I would say, if anything, try to improve that line and make sure that when somebody comes up against that line and starts to try to, you know, shark, you know, like attack the cage, like that that is such a strong line where I, well, this isn't even an option.
I mean, I've been in rooms of, you know, I've been in rooms of the people that have been accused of, you know, doing awful things to women, but I never had a problem because my line was here and I've never had a problem.
Also, you could probably beat them up, I imagine.
I know.
So also I would say get your children in mixed martial arts.
Two pieces of kids are all in jiu-jitsu.
They don't know what's going on.
Awesome.
Yeah.
So that, yeah, yeah.
Dude, don't let them pass your line.
Get a very strong line and also get them in mixed martial arts today.
Especially girls.
Yeah, that's very true.
Yeah, yeah.
The 10 questions.
All right, well, we're going to wrap up this interview with the same thing we do with every interview, which is the 10 questions.
These are 10 sacred questions we ask every Babylon B.
And I know, and I know you guys asked these the first time that they're incredible.
I don't remember.
It's good that you didn't remember him because they're kind of, yeah.
The first one is, have you ever met Carmen?
Carmen is the dumbest question.
This Christian rapper right here.
No, no, never mind.
Do you remember Carmen?
No.
I remember Amy Grant.
Okay.
You were in that world then.
He was weird, but he died.
But he was a genius, Kyle.
He was a genius.
Well, most weirdos are.
We're just trying to figure out who's met him.
All right.
Are you a Calvinist or an Arminian?
What?
Good question.
So an Arminian.
It's like a predestination or free will, you know, from a theological perspective.
Like, is everything determined ahead of time?
Do humans have free will?
Oh, I feel like I feel like fuman, I feel like humans have free will, and it's like kind of like one of the most interesting things that you could think about because also God has a plan.
So how can these two things exist?
So I think it's, God is also mysterious.
So I think that humans have free will.
And God works it all.
God works it all.
Yeah.
All right.
And I don't know what that makes me then.
A little bit of both.
A little bit of both.
Maybe of both.
Yeah.
Okay.
You sound like a potential candidate for Calvinism.
Yeah, we should, we can talk more.
We should.
It's a very tough question.
Yeah, it is.
Theologians have been debating it for many years.
Many, yes.
Many, many.
Number three, you can add one book to the Bible.
What is it?
Otherwise, what's your favorite book?
I think maybe I shouldn't be adding any books to the Bible.
Okay, completely unrelated question.
What is your favorite book or like one book you think everybody should read?
For me, when I was going through my toughest time in the last four years, it's called A Silver Refined, I believe.
Oh, yeah, I've heard it.
By Joyce Meyer.
Oh, yeah.
I think.
And that's what really got me through understanding that, you know, this isn't going to be easy, but you're going to come out the other side.
You're fine.
That's good.
Okay.
Cigars or pipes?
Cigars.
Hard, yeah.
Wonderful.
Yeah.
My family loves cigars.
Well, no, my uncle Greg loves cigars.
And so I learned about cigars.
Do you partake at all or are you?
Absolutely.
I love a cigar.
Cool.
Yeah.
We have some here.
So we do.
That's all right.
You get to hang out with any three people, living or dead.
Who are they?
Jesus.
Oh, you can't pick Jesus?
You can't pick.
That was a rule?
It is a rule.
Yeah.
Because everybody was.
He's also always here.
And he's already here.
Oh, you're hanging with him.
You got me there.
You got me there.
Three people.
If I could hang out with any three people.
Yeah.
Living, dead.
The dead ones come back.
Or otherwise.
Yeah.
Gosh, that's so difficult.
I think, well, I would just like more time with the people who I lost.
Yeah.
Which was six of them in the last two years.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I don't know if it surprises you or not, but we asked this question and, you know, a lot of people say historical figures, but about half the people say like, my grandma, my grandpa.
Both my grandfathers, my best friend died, and my cousin died of cancer.
I mean, those are the people I'd want to see again.
Yeah.
I always like that answer actually better.
It means this is a question of who's a good person or not.
Yeah, no, it kind of shows you like that what people value.
Most of my heroes, you know, it's like, oh, George Washington, I'm like, it'd probably be weird to hang out with it.
Yeah, he'd probably be weird.
He'd probably be like, who are you?
Like, why are you here?
But like, why do you have wooden teeth?
Right.
So whiskey or beer?
Today.
Right now?
Are you offering?
Why not?
Yeah.
I used to be such a hardcore whiskey girl, but I don't know.
I'd probably take a beer today.
40 of Old English.
No.
40.
No, no, no, no, never again.
But I think you guys need to try that.
I do.
We're going to do it.
Just to understand the psychology of where you're at when you're that young and you're like, you would actually put this into your body.
Yeah.
Okay.
But I do love a good whiskey, though.
What would be the first thing you would do as president?
The first thing I would do is close the border.
Close the border.
All right.
That's a good answer.
I'm voting Gina 2020.
Well, I just think that we need less chaos and we need a second to breathe and we need to calm everything down.
It does seem wild.
This is a weird question for you.
It's usually like a street story.
Yeah, maybe like a good street story.
So the question normally is, have you ever been punched or have you punched anyone?
And so.
A lot.
Yeah.
You made a career out of it.
But have you ever done that outside of the ring?
Or we could, the other question is.
What is your best story?
Yeah, what's your first fight?
There was an interesting story before I started fighting.
We were at a hotel party and they, long story short, closed the door.
My little sister was in there.
And she got to the door, opened up the door and said, they touched, they took my hat and I just snapped.
And I threw my drink on someone and I just went like haywire on like three different guys.
And so then I see my little sister who's all 135 pounds and she's attacking someone and we just like were fighting for our lives.
It felt like for a second I got head-butted and broke my nose on that one.
It took at least like three or four of them to restrain me.
And they were so freaked out that two these girls were going to go this hard at this situation because the second they said that they actually touched her, you know, even though it was just they took her hat.
My blood flipped into a very primal, I guess, state.
You should have played the Hulk.
You saw red.
Yeah.
There's only been very, very few times that's ever happened, but that definitely happened in that situation.
And my nose was just gushing blood and it was very intense.
And you didn't notice because you were so in the moment.
Oh, they had to have three of them have my hands my arms like up behind my back and like like around my neck.
Like they had to hold me back.
And there was like three or four men or boys, let's say, you know, really, you know, not boys, but, you know.
Boys.
Yeah.
It just sucked.
It just got, it got crazy real fast.
So I broke my nose.
I think that's the only time I have broken my nose.
Wow.
The only time of all the times.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
I love that story.
You got good hands.
You get to go to one concert, any band in history.
Who do you go see?
Oh, gosh.
I didn't grow up like a movie or a music person.
You could pick Amy Grant.
You could pick Carmen.
I wouldn't pick Amy Grant.
Oh, no.
Baby, baby.
Oh, my gosh.
She was rolling the orange back and forth with that guy that wasn't his.
I don't remember the music.
Can you guys give me like, because I didn't grow up with music.
Leonard Skynyrd.
Let's go with.
Queen.
let's go with the monkeys um Well, I went to a lot of punk shows when I was little.
Let's go with something.
Oh, not.
Fly me to the moon.
Okay.
Is that Tony?
Sinatra.
Frank Sinatra.
I would go to Frank Sinatra.
All right.
Frank Sinatra.
That's a good pick.
That's a good pick.
Thank you.
I did it.
Yeah.
Okay, right now.
Fly me to the moon is him too as well, right?
Yeah.
I thought so.
I think so.
There's a couple of crooners.
Frank Sinatra.
All right.
Good job.
I like that.
That's a good answer.
All right.
So right here and right now.
This is the final question.
With every head bowed and every eye closed, would you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior?
I'm already.
I'm already there.
We got her.
Can we get a recommitment?
What is like a rededication?
Like, you're just going to do it again.
We have an altar set up, right?
Just to be scared.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, what does that mean, though?
Well, we just, it just means that we got you.
Like, we did it.
Oh, you're trying to claim that?
Yeah, we want to.
We want the ledger.
We got you on the ledger.
So when we get to heaven, it'll be like, oh, Gina.
Oh, you guys are taking it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think God's going to knock you on the chin for that one.
Maybe that will be my first punch.
Actually, yeah.
So do you think you could give Kyle his first punch?
Oh, yeah.
We could, Gina or God.
Or actually, or me too.
I'm like, I want to know how much.
I want you guys to be okay and continue on your work here.
I actually don't want Gina to punch me because she will knock me out.
She probably wouldn't knock me out, too.
That's true.
Well, thank you for coming.
That would be highly disappointing if I didn't.
Like, oh, gosh.
I highly doubt it.
Thank you for coming, Gina.
All our prayers and best wishes in the lawsuit and everything you're going through.
It sounds like you got an awesome story and we just feel a great connection and kinship with you because we've been through a lot of similar things here.
I'm so happy I finally got to meet you guys in person.
Because remember, we wanted to do this podcast early, like right.
It was the day.
Okay, so you were scheduled to come on, and then like the day before, because I think you were already getting in trouble with some of the pronoun stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
You were going to come on, and the day before is when you actually got fired.
Right.
And then you were like, I'll still do it, but I don't know if I'm in the best mental state.
And then I think the next day you were like, yeah, I'm just not in the mental state.
I was not in the best mental state at all.
And then I think Ben Shapiro ended up managing to do the tear on the pronoun.
Yeah, Ben Shapiro was like, okay, you know, I get the exclusive, you know, so-and-so.