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March 28, 2023 - Babylon Bee
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Ray Comfort Slaps Back At The Babylon Bee

Ray Comfort from Living Waters Ministries is at The Babylon Bee to flaunt his tremendous wealth and talk about who needs to be slapped. He also has a new book, So Many Lions, So Few Daniels: Living without Compromise in a World in Need of Truth. The Babylon Bee finds out the hard way that Ray Comfort does have violence in his heart. Do you have violence in your heart? Are you a good person?

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Well, it's legitimate if you do ask me something.
Clickbaits when you don't deliver.
Ray Comfort slaps us in the face.
Did we do that right now?
Do it right now so that we can say that in the video.
Oh!
He actually hit us pretty good.
I thought it was just going to be a little token.
but it seemed like he felt like we needed it.
But you both had...
Are we supposed to turn the other cheek now?
Yeah.
And you both had beards, and that softened.
You have a nice soft hand.
I was afraid I was going to hurt my hand.
That's all I was worried about.
Those are the hands of an evangelist.
And now it's time for another interview on the Babylon B Podcast.
Well, we brought a very wealthy man into the studio today.
Yeah.
He brought lots of money with him.
That's going to get me into trouble.
Bags of money.
He just brought bags of money.
Yeah.
Handing out gift cards.
Yeah.
But guys, I saw on the internet where I'm worth $20 million.
You Google contract between you and me.
If you can find that $20 million, I'll split it with you.
You know, I looked myself up one time and I'm worth eight.
$8 million?
All right.
Yeah.
You just looked up your name?
Yeah, I was like, I looked up your name.
Yeah, like, what's Jarrett's network?
You got to try this.
Yeah, you can, and I'm worth like eight million.
Can you Google me?
I don't have to worry about it.
But that was a few years ago, so I might be worth more now.
You want to try to check it out?
What's Kyle Mann?
I'm going to do it.
You know what's weird every time I do that?
If you type in your name, it always says like Kyle Mann's wife.
So everybody wants to know what your wife looks like.
I know, yeah.
It's true.
Have you noticed that?
It's like one of the first suggestions.
Entertains.
Yeah.
Salary, wife.
You have an estimated net worth of between $1 million and $5 million.
Oh, that's not accurate.
Not independently wealthy, but you're doing okay.
Yeah.
That's fine.
I'll say that is either way low or way high.
Well, so why don't you tell us about some of the cold hard cash and that you brought in for us?
This is $100 million.
It looks like $100 million, but it's actually a Gospel of John.
And the reason it looks like $100 million is because the Gospel of John is worth more than all the money in the world because it tells you how to find everlasting life.
And so we had over a million of these printed and we gave them way free and we paid for the shipping.
And they went out like hot cakes in a cold day in Alaska.
And we still have them part of our ministry at LivingWaters.com.
Non-Christians love these when you give one to them and you explain why it's like this and they do.
You never get upset.
No, absolutely not.
Oh, I think that's what I'm saying.
You know why?
Because most people could figure out this isn't really $100 million.
Actually, I like that better than the flat ones that look maybe like real money because you wouldn't assume that a bundle looks real.
Well, our flat ones, like the million-dollar bill, that's very popular.
People can work out there's no such thing as a million-dollar bill, so it probably isn't counterfeit.
Plus, it's got 163-word gospel presentation on the back, which is another clue that it's not genuine.
Right.
Yeah, you might figure that out.
You won't find that in the middle of the day.
As long as people tip with them, that's what it is when people tip with them.
You know, anyone that tips like that needs to slap in the face.
That's a horrible thing to do.
That's the second time I've heard you say somebody needs a slap in the face.
Yeah, but this is what we're recording.
This is unusual.
It's like, it's not what I expected of Ray Comfort.
Yeah.
It's kind of one of slaps.
Well, yeah, there's another one.
The first thing I'm going to say to Adam, you know, when I meet Adam, I know what I'm going to do.
I thought you meant Adam answered.
No, this is the original Adam with the Eve.
Yeah, I'm going to smack him in the mouth.
Because every bit of suffering we've got, death is a good thing.
Do you think he's just sitting at a booth in heaven that everybody just didn't like?
Lining up to slap.
Lining up and slapping Adam.
And the women are slapping Eve.
I know that.
That's right.
At least once a month.
A serpent?
Really?
Really?
Whoops.
Well, yeah, so that's pretty cool.
And you have money bags.
It's this little money bag.
And I just got to say, we're a non-profit ministry.
We're here to help the body of Christ share the faith without offense.
And this one here is very popular.
This is a coin.
It's called a 10 commandment coin, 10 commandments on one side, and the gospel, the entire gospel on the other.
And this is not plastic.
This is metal.
Oh, yeah.
Can I see what I have?
Yeah, you can hold it.
Can I hold it too?
Let me.
That's great.
I'll tell you what.
You got lost.
I'll throw you the bag.
Oh, the whole bag.
I got the whole bag.
That was like that scene in the passion.
Yeah, throw the whole bag and he catches it and all the money comes out.
Yeah.
You're scrambling at it.
I'm like, grab it, give me the car.
I'm going to hang myself.
Anyway, this is great because people can't.
This doesn't.
This lasts for years.
People take it.
They're going to keep it because it's got perceived value.
I threw a handful on the sidewalk once and watched a whole stack of teenagers fight over them.
And it's got the gospel on it.
So it's a wonderful way to get the gospel out there.
I've never seen them fight over chick tracks.
I was going to say, what the gospel?
The gospel suffers violence.
What is that?
Violent men.
Take it by force.
Take it by force.
That's what happened.
Yes.
Violent men took it by force.
So people can get those from LivingWaters.com.
Non-profit.
Thank you.
It was like the scene out of the passion.
That's right.
Yeah, it was like 30 pieces of observation.
You see that?
30 pieces of scene.
That's his pop culture reference.
I have a question for you.
Have you ever looked with lust in your heart?
Yes.
That's the verse that got me to the cross.
Really?
Yeah, the night of my conversion, I read Sermon on the Mount.
Jesus said, You've heard it said by them of old, you shall not commit adultery.
And I thought, if there's a heaven, I'll make it.
Because I had no Christian background.
But then I read his words where he says, Whoever looks upon a woman to lust for her has committed adultery already within his heart.
And it was like an arrow just hit my chest.
I thought, I'm cooked.
Because I didn't realize that God saw my thought life.
And I was a very upstanding young businessman, clean cart, burning with unlawful sexual desire, like every red-blooded male.
And that's what brought me to the cross.
I never understood the cross until I saw my sin.
Wow.
And that's great.
So I have looked with lust.
And even at my age, I'm coming up to 70, 70-something, 74, I still battle lust.
It never goes away, guys.
If you don't, Potiphar's wife is always there to say, come on.
And you just got to have the running shoes of Joseph.
Always be ready.
Potiphar's wife.
That's good.
It's amazing that we feel like we've advanced so much as a species.
And yet you look at, go back to Potiphar's wife, and you come now, and it feels like it's even worse in terms of the lust and the pornography and everything that's out there in the culture.
Well, is that scripture?
We've escaped the corruption that's in the world through lust.
Everywhere you look, it's lust.
Either the lust for money or sexual lust.
It's on the billboards.
It's on television.
It's there because we're drawn to sexual sin like moths are to a flame.
Can't help it.
Until we get a new heart, which comes with a new birth.
I'm not judging you.
Of course.
Just by your own admission.
Oh, you do a Russian accent.
Is that a Russian accent?
Yeah, it sounded like it.
No, I heard it.
It always turns into Indian.
It's close.
It's close.
I'm not working on it.
The Kiwi thing is hard for me.
Yeah, Kiwis are hard to do.
If you say, if Giddei was a password in war to get you through something, you'd be shot because Americans can't say giddy.
Giddy.
No, it's not shot.
I didn't make it.
It's like I can't say the R's.
I can't say park the car in the dark, Mark, and sound correct.
It's just not in my head.
You can't do it.
No, can't.
Cane.
That's good.
Pack the cat.
We had a Boston guy on last week, and he was saying all that.
He was packing the cat.
What age did you get saved at?
22.
22.
It was a good year.
Okay.
I was born again.
I was born twice in New Zealand.
So let's say you went back 50 years.
So you're a young Christian, 24, and you were to go shake Ray Comfort when he's 24 and maybe slap him across the face.
What would you tell that guy 50 years ago?
Like, buy Bitcoin or something.
I don't know.
One day you're going to be on Babylon B.
But he would be like, what's Babylon B?
Babylon B?
Yeah, I don't know what I'd say to myself.
Always been zealous for the Lord, and there's never been a time where I haven't.
And that sounds like a boast, but I boast that I've always been zealous for my wife.
Always.
My love for her has never gone.
It's gone greater.
It's the same with my love for the Lord.
Once I saw the cross, he's got everything.
That's all there is to it.
It's a Gethsemane experience.
You never got over it.
Never got over it.
Never got over it.
That's well put.
That would be a great title for a book.
I never got over it.
Never got over it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Still standing here with my mouth like a road tunnel at what happened to me.
First time I was born, very radical, born again, just as radical.
The new birth where you get new heart, new desires.
Just it's amazing.
He's so good.
Yeah, that's why I like to say to those who are skeptics, God will give you a personal miracle, and that personal miracle is that you will love righteousness.
That's a miracle for any human being when we drink iniquity like water.
We love darkness, hate the light, our eyes are full of adultery.
Along comes God that created us, gives us that new heart, so we thirst after righteousness.
That's a miracle for sin-loving sinners, and that's what convinces you of the reality of the gospel.
It's not something we believe historically, it's a living faith.
Blessed are you who hunger and thirst for righteousness.
You will be filled.
And it's part of the process, isn't it?
I love that.
That's really encouraging because as a Christian, it's the sign of life.
Like when you do struggle with sin, even as a Christian, and then you still hunger for righteousness, you know, you can take comfort in knowing that your heart is still soft towards the Lord.
I think that's kidding.
Man.
Well, how can I put it?
I've got hope in my death.
You've got hope in your death.
A non-Christian has no hope in his death.
He's on the edge of a plane 10,000 feet up.
No parachute.
He has to jump in the dark.
That's death for an unsaved person.
We have a parachute so we can control our fears.
And my fear when I pass through death, and I may not last to the end of this interview, my consolation is that the more faith I have in God, the less fear I have.
In the same way, if I'm going to jump out of a plane 10,000 feet, the more faith I have in the parachute, the less fear I'm going to have.
Because we all battle that haunting fear of death.
But as a Christian, we can battle it with faith because faith overcomes fear, which is the huge consolation.
Man.
Paul says the unspeakable gift.
It's a real comfort.
Yeah, I am a real comfort.
Do you know the word comfort?
What it actually means?
It doesn't mean they're there.
In Old English, it means something different.
A friend saw a picture of King James I, and he had a sword, and he was poking the back of his troops.
And on the bottom, it said, James I comforting his troops.
He was encouraging.
So that word comfort means to encourage, to embolden, to strengthen.
And the Holy Spirit is called the Comforter, and He gives us boldness and courage when it comes to sharing our faith.
So when you yell at your kids when they're playing baseball in Little League, you're comforted.
You're actually comforting.
Get out there!
Get rid of the ball!
That's good.
Swing the bat!
Swing the bat!
Slapping them in the face is actually a comfort.
Lift your elbow!
How many times do I have to tell you?
Hey, you told us about a big event that you guys are doing with the coronation of King Charles.
Yes.
Yeah, so you push my button, so I'm just going to tell me if I go on too long.
No, please.
Six months ago, I began thinking what Charles is going to do during that coronation, May the 6th.
He's going to lay his hand on the Bible and promise before God, before an audience of literally hundreds of millions around the world, he's going to put his hand on the Bible and swear to God that he will uphold the biblical truth of salvation by grace through faith.
He's going to carry an orb, which is a globe with a cross on the top, which is symbolic of Jesus Christ's reign over the whole earth.
He's going to have a number of swords given to him.
One is a blunt sword, a sword of mercy, which is symbolic of the gospel of mercy.
The other's a sharp sword, speaking of the sharp sword of justice on judgment day.
He's going to be anointed with oil.
In fact, there are 10 things that are going to take place in that live service witnessed by hundreds of millions that are symbolic of the gospel of Jesus of God and the Bible.
And I began thinking, man, wouldn't it be wonderful if we could have a gospel tract printed with Charles on the front and the gospel on the back?
So I sent a video to my team to see what they thought of my thoughts.
When I received an email directly after that from a gentleman who just said, what are you working on?
So I sent him the video and he sent the ministry $200,000.
Send the video to someone else, they send the ministry $50,000.
Send it to someone else and they send $100,000.
Want to see the video?
I'm just kidding.
Not really.
Not really.
Afraid of it.
But aren't you worth it?
I am worth $5 million.
That's what I was going to say, and you're worth $8, so just guess what?
I've got extra.
So we had tracks printed up.
We had millions printed.
We've had a total of 12 million printed.
And we encourage people to go to London.
And 1,800 people are actually committed to go to London to give out these gospel tracts to the millions that will line the streets of London.
Plus, 500 Americans have committed to go to London to give out tracks.
And so we've offered these plus a book which is called Defender of the Faith, a hundred-page book.
We had 500,000 printed.
They're being given away free.
The tracts, these tracks are being given away free, and we pay the shipping to anywhere in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, US, or England.
And so far, something like 8 million have gone out and secured.
And we've got and just ordered another 4 million.
So what we're doing, and we're not endorsing Charles.
We're not saying Charles is a Christian.
Can I see that?
Yeah, sure.
You can actually feel that if you want.
Now, does this look like actual British money?
Is that what it is?
Yes, that's what their 50-pound note looks like.
You have no idea what British money looks like.
Yeah, it's just.
It's all Greek to me.
Sorry, I interrupted you.
Yeah, what I was saying was terrific.
We're not endorsing King Charles or saying he's a Christian or saying this is not more than a form of godliness.
We don't know if it's just a form of godliness, this church service.
But we do know the world is going to church.
And we're doing what Paul did in Acts 17, where he quoted Greek poets.
Do you remember that when he preached to the Athenians?
You say, what did you quote Greek poets for?
They're probably fornicators and blasphemers.
What are you endorsing them for?
No, he is just using them as a bridge to reach his hearers.
And that's all we're doing with this.
We're using Charles and the coronation as a bridge to reach the millions that are going to go to London, the millions throughout the U.S. that are going to tune in.
And the wonderful thing is the secular media, and Ken Ham put it this way, you know, Ken.
Cain told me this, he said...
He's that guy that's a lot taller than you?
Yeah.
Yeah, everybody is.
All of sin and come short.
He's a few cubits taller.
He's a cubit.
A couple of cubits.
But he said, this is so big, if the president dies during the coronation, the media will not cut away.
They'll stay with that church service because they know America and the world are fascinated by royalty.
It's like celebrity on steroids.
And what the secular media are going to have to do during this two-hour church service is give commentary.
And now he's placing his hand on the Bible and he's swearing to uphold the biblical truth of salvation by grace through faith.
They're going to have to do that.
They're going to have to explain this.
So this is an unprecedented opportunity.
And when in history has this happened?
When the whole world goes to church, like hundreds of millions.
So we want to be ready.
And anyone can get these tracks by going to livingwaters.com forward slash London, livingwaters.com.
Have you done much street preaching in Europe or England?
Yeah, I did.
I preached in Nottingham and was stopped by a representative, the Sheriff of Nottingham.
Wow.
Yes, I see.
He's always stopping.
He's pretty much paying Scotland.
A king's deer.
So, yeah, did you kill a king's deer?
Did you kill the king deer?
And then I preached at Speaker's Corner in London, which is very famous, but I had a hard time because there's so many Muslims that shout you down.
They're not exactly excited about the gospel.
Yeah, it's kind of spiritually dead over there.
Not that America's, you know, the very picture is spiritually dead.
How would you characterize, actually, because England versus America, this spiritual?
Yeah, England is gospel lacking, America's gospel hardened.
Yeah, I got you.
That's a good word.
You know, who doesn't know John 3.16 in this nation?
What we've done is we've given the cure without presenting the disease.
Yeah, there we go.
And so so many people say, I'm a Christian.
I was born again six times.
You know, I know John 3.16.
And so we need to go back to biblical evangelism.
Are we talking about a new book?
Oh, yeah.
If you want to talk about it, you better mention it.
My publishers would be pleased if I did mention it.
Oh, we're absolutely going to talk about it.
So many lions.
So few Daniels.
Yeah, I was actually going to go to Los Angeles Zoo and get in the lion's den to publicize it, but I thought I'll go to the Bible Bee anyway.
I'd rather be stung by a bee than bitten by a lion.
So, yeah.
Let me tell you how we got the title.
Can I do that?
Yeah.
How many kids do you have?
Three, one of each.
Yeah.
Because you have so many good dad jokes.
I just figured you're very experienced with that.
Look, Emil Zwayne is the president of our ministry.
He's Wayne, and he's a dad joke person.
That's a dad joke.
I'm trying to feed you the lines.
Yeah.
I'm just trying to keep up over here.
So we got so many lions, so few Daniels living without compromise in a world in need of truth.
Yeah, you're probably going to ask me why did I choose that title?
Why did you choose that title?
That's almost harmony.
That was really well.
Did you choose that title?
Title.
There you go.
Can you sing on a hill far away?
On a hill far away.
Sing on a hill far away.
I want him to go.
That's where I was wanting him to go.
Oh, yeah.
That was a dad joke.
Yeah, that was inspired.
The title was inspired by atheists.
I saw an atheist t-shirt that said, so many Christians, so few lions.
And I thought, boy, that's as culturally sensitive as so many Jews, so less Nazi ovens, so many blacks, so few lynching ropes.
So I got mad and wrote that book out of righteous indignation.
Did you confront that person?
No, it was the t-shirt on the internet.
It wouldn't talk about TV.
You confronted it, but I yelled at it, but it didn't say yes.
I was hung up the monitor.
I didn't go.
Slap the guy.
Yeah.
What's the slap?
Christians don't slap people.
We turn the other cheek.
We don't slap people.
Where'd you hear that from?
Yeah, I don't know.
That's a good point.
I don't know.
There was this guy.
This guy said something.
I don't remember.
That's crazy.
Yeah, so the book is to embolden Christians to share their faith.
And there are lots of keys that we can use.
But there are lots of lions.
My wife and I are reading it.
It's very good.
Really?
Yeah, it's great.
Oh, that's wonderful.
Yeah, really encouraging.
I wrote it in a New Zealand accent.
I can't read it then.
I don't know how to read it.
You're right.
We have two Daniels at the Balmby, so that's probably.
It's a wonderful name, Daniel.
It's got strength to it.
The book begins by asking if you'd ever call your child Judas.
If you've ever called Jesus.
If you would ever call one of your children Judas.
And it goes through how unpopular the name Judas is and how it really has stuck as a name that means betrayal and the epitome of wickedness.
The most common name, most popular name in the U.S. is James.
And the most unpopular would be Judas.
And even atheists won't call their kids Judas.
Is Judas less popular than Adolph as a name?
Yeah, Adolph, Jezebel, and Judas would be bad names to give your kids.
I've met a Delilah.
Have you?
Yeah.
That's not as bad as Jezebel.
You're a Jezebel.
It's kind of fun.
That's true.
But I've met a Jezebel too.
You have?
Somebody named their daughter Jezebel and I was like, oh, it's such a pretty name.
I'm like, do you know where that I didn't have the heart to tell her, you know.
Somebody no doubt would one day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was a moment of embarrassing silence.
It was.
I missed an opportunity.
Yeah.
Should we move it?
I feel very convicted by it, actually, now.
Now that you're here, Ray.
Anyway, I'm delighted you're reading the book.
Thank you.
It's nice to hear.
Very encouraging.
I think it's a great book.
Now, you're out preaching all the time.
You do your Living Waters video stuff.
I watch those all the time.
I love them.
And do you have numbers?
Do you know how many people get saved?
How many people do you keep track of all that?
I don't keep track because I don't have access to the book of life, but one day I will.
You're not.
One day I will be.
Elon's going to expose that in the Twitter files coming up soon.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.
But yeah, I don't know.
All I do is plant.
Build a tower to heaven.
All I do is plant seed, and God does the saving.
And the same way when I grow a garden, I don't take credit for a peach tree or an apple tree or an apricot tree.
It's just God grows the trees.
I get the privilege to plant the seed.
And that's evangelism.
And by the way, if you want this video to dive, just mention the word evangelism in the title.
That'll kill it.
Okay, don't say evangelism.
We have a secret in our ministry.
We don't use the word evangelism.
If we're ever in a conference, say evangelism conference, it's dead.
It's dead water.
Why is that?
People don't know what it means or it's just a matter of time.
No, no, no.
They know exactly what it means.
They censor it.
Well, no, it's not censored.
It's synonymous with the word root canal for most Christians.
Oh, there is.
Evangelism.
Charles Spurgeon called it an irksome task.
And quite frankly, I hate evangelism.
I hate confronting non-Christians about issues they don't want to hear.
But I have to because I'm a Christian.
I've been given a great commission.
I'm like a firefighter that's committed to fighting fires.
I don't go home when I see something scary.
You know, when someone's dying up in a building and I've got to climb a 60-foot ladder to reach them.
I don't want to do that.
I'd rather be home with my wife.
I don't risk my life.
I'm terrified.
But he's a firefighter, so he doesn't listen to his fears.
So it's exactly the same with evangelism.
You and I, as Christians, have a tremendous moral responsibility to share the gospel.
Now, would you say that every Christian has this responsibility?
Every Christian has this gift?
Because often people just go, well, it's not my gift.
It's not a gift.
I'm an introvert.
Yeah, it's like if you watch a marathon runner, finish a marathon, he breaks the tape and he's standing there and sweating, you go up to him and say, boy, you're so gifted.
He might turn around to you and say, what are you talking about?
I've run 30 miles every week for the last year.
I haven't eaten chocolate or ice cream.
I've denied myself.
I've bruised myself.
I've fallen over.
I'm full of sweat and pain.
This isn't a gift.
It's hard work.
And evangelism, exactly the same thing.
You see me break the tape and say, oh, Ray's really good at that.
No, no.
I put my foot in my mouth.
I've bruised myself.
I've denied myself to get to the position I'm in.
But that's good because it means anyone can run this marathon.
Anyone can reach the lost.
All you have to do is study it.
And there's things that you wanted to do that you did because you wanted to do them.
Like you wanted to walk when you're a baby.
You don't remember, but you didn't spend your life crawling.
You got up and walked.
When you got on a bike, you fell off, but you wanted to ride the bike.
When you got into a car, you were terrified because you could kill people with this vehicle you're holding on to, but you get used to it, sadly.
And it's exactly the same with evangelism.
You know, when I meet an atheist, I'm never intimidated because I know what an atheist is.
An atheist is a fool, according to the Bible.
He's not intelligent.
In fact, atheism is a modern phenomenon.
Phenomena.
Phenomenem.
Phenomenum.
You choose what you want to minimum.
Yeah, but it is.
You go back years ago, there was very few atheists.
The Bible only addresses them twice in the Old Testament, it seems, with 11 words in Psalm 14.
The fool has said in his heart, there's no God.
And then in Psalm 53, it repeats it in case we didn't get the message.
An atheist is a fool because he believes the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything.
Flowers and birds and trees, the seasons, the sun, the moon, the stars, puppies, kittens, dogs.
All these things were created not from nothing, but by nothing.
Nothing was the creative genius that got us everything, which is worse than insane, but that's what an atheist defaults to when he says there was no creator.
And so you get proficient at the art of evangelism if you apply yourself to it.
But as I said, call this video, Ray Comfort talks about evangelism, nothing's going to happen.
You say, we trap Ray Comfort with this.
You're going to get a lot of views.
Yeah, traps.
You've got to do something.
Ask me something like that.
Kind of clickbait thing.
Yeah.
Well, it's legitimate if you do ask me something.
Clickbaits when you don't deliver.
Ray Comfort slaps us in the face.
Did we do that right now?
Do it right now so that we can say that in the video.
Oh!
He actually hit us pretty good.
I thought it was just going to be a little token.
It seems like he felt like we needed it.
But you both had- Are we supposed to turn the other cheek now?
You both had beards, and that softened it just a little bit.
You have nice soft hands.
I was afraid I was going to hurt my hand.
That's all I was worried about.
Those are the hands of an evangelist.
Do you mostly encourage?
Man, I'll use that for our YouTube channel.
Oh, you guys are going to be just great.
You guys do way better than us.
Well, what we're going to do is put an echo on that slap.
An air horn.
And an elch from you guys.
You guys do way better than us on the YouTube.
It's only because we're good looking and it's our humility.
I thought that's true.
We have that gift of humility and that helps.
You are extraordinarily humble.
Yes, thank you for that.
And extraordinarily good looking.
Thank you.
Because I used to be.
Do you mostly encounter that kind of atheism out there now where people are just adamant there's no God?
Or do you just more encounter people that just don't care or agnostic, don't have any opinion?
Well, it's both.
You see both out.
You know, I say, you an atheist?
Yeah, I guess I am.
I don't think God exists.
But when I give them that, you believe the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything, that changes minds.
You can see it on a YouTube channel again and again.
An atheist saying, well, I don't believe that.
So I try and help them and say, let me help you here.
You think there was a creator, but it just wasn't the God of the Bible.
That's it.
I said, well, let's see if we can find out why you don't want it to be the God of the Bible.
And you find out he's watching pornography and living with his gorgeous girlfriend.
He's having sex with her.
And so the issue isn't intellectual, it's moral.
And I say that to atheists.
I say, you can be honest with me.
I say, yeah.
So you're having sex with your girlfriend, and that's the issue.
It's nothing to do with God not existing.
You just know he'd frown on it.
So you're like the prodigal son who went to a far country to get away from his father to do things you know that he'd frown upon.
And that's what atheism is.
It's the prodigal going to a far country.
He's like Adam hiding from God because of his sins.
And so when you address an atheist's conscience, it changes the dynamic.
You say, let me move from your intellect to your conscience.
He says, sure, no problem.
He doesn't realize where we're going.
We're going to have an ally right in the heart of the enemy that's going to agree with everything I say, and that's the conscience.
It bears witness with those commandments.
And you see this change.
You see it on their faces.
Yes, it's wonderful.
Those conversations.
I've seen some of those and I love those conversations.
Yeah.
YouTube titles that are Ray Comfort Destroys Atheists.
Well, it's better.
Atheist destroys Ray Comfort.
It gets far better views than so.
Is this book primarily written to Christians to try to call out more Christians to?
Yes.
Yeah.
D.L. Moody said, I'd rather set a thousand to work than do the work of a thousand.
I know you've written some books that are giving arguments against atheism and maybe are a little more evangelistically organized.
Yeah, that's for the atheists.
Yeah, hoping they'll realize that our motivation is love.
I don't hate atheists.
Got a lot of atheist friends and I love them and I just want to see them saved, and they don't realize the issues.
If they knew what we had in Christ, that ask, you know, we've got everlasting life.
We're not religious.
I hate that word religious, I'd rather be called stumpy than religious.
Stumpy, thank you.
But yeah, if they knew that we had everlasting life, they would ask us, like Jesus said to the woman at the well, if you knew who it was that was speaking to you, I'd ask and he'll give you living water.
And if they knew what we had in Christ.
So you've got literally millions of people in these torture chambers called gyms, causing themselves great pain and sweat this morning.
Yeah, to try and extend their lives, to stay healthy.
That's why they do it.
It's not just for the physique, you just want to be healthy and that's good.
You've got other people drinking and eating things that are disgusting and denying themselves things like donuts because they're afraid of looking like a doughnut after eating them.
A lot yeah, and it's all.
To extend their life.
Eat healthy, keep fit, which is great.
But we've got everlasting life because death is coming to them.
It's a grim reaper and we're saying, no, the Grim Reaper has been destroyed by Jesus on the cross, so you need to look into this.
I love that.
That's great.
What are have you?
Yeah, I know you preach out in L Antington Beach, Santa Monica.
I know you used to.
Haven't been in Santa Monica for about Huntington Beach 20 years.
Are there any big celebrities that you've ever preached to?
Um, no big celebrities.
There's some short.
What about some shorter ones?
Yeah, I've met some shorts.
Well, compared to you, I mean no tall celebrities.
No um yeah, I can't remember how many people you recognize out there.
Um, Kirk Cameron, I once I got to share the gospel.
He's a hard, hard heart.
Yeah yeah, Arnold Schwarzenegger, once I got some him and I had a good chat.
He said no to me, went off on the track.
Well, that's a conversation.
Yeah, it's fairly short.
He just said no, he didn't.
When I went to give him a gospel track.
The first time I saw you this is interesting, we were telling you right before this the first time I saw you was in 1997.
We were at 3rd Street Promenade.
I went down there and with my friends and we were just walking around and I saw Arnold Schwarzenegger walk by and then so it's that same night and then I ended up going up and talking to you and I heard you did.
Did you have?
Now let me ask you this, so the biggest celebrity he's ever preached to is probably Jerry right, Jerry Well, and Pauly Shore was there that night too, when she was wandering around.
So still, the biggest celebrity is Jerry Well.
And then, but there's, there's a.
Did you ever use like um, dummies on the ground?
Like yes yeah, so that was.
We called him.
We called him Lazarus Lazarus.
You had Lazarus on the ground and I was watching and it was like yeah, this is gonna be you someday.
You were showing, showing people that death was coming, and you ended up having this and Pauli Shore was up on the heckler's microphone and he was, do you know who Pauli Shore is?
No, I don't.
Yes, that's what most people know.
You didn't know who he was and you were talking to him and that was this.
There was this Kiwi talking to Pauly Shore and it was like the craziest thing in the world to me.
Did you ever seen Ceno Man?
And Ceno Man?
He was like one of the.
Anyway, he was one.
He was a famous comedian at the time.
You didn't know who he was no, and so very interesting.
And so Arnold Schwarzenegger was walking around, so he's probably preached to tons of celebrities just because you know who they are.
No, but you changed my mind on evangelism that night.
You changed my mind.
And I kind of, and that was a long time ago.
And ever since then, I've been of the mind that we need to show people what the law is.
I took your, you had cassette tapes.
Yes.
That you handed out.
And I took a cassette tape home and I popped it in.
And me and my roommate, Nathan.
Those are like small MP3 players.
They have little.
They don't even have MP3 players anymore.
They're like small smartphones.
But it just can be.
It's like a real.
Anyway, but I took it home.
I listened to your tape and I thought, that's true.
Was that health best kept secret?
Was it like a $10 bill cassette tape?
Yeah, it could have been.
Yeah, it could have been.
Yeah.
And I just remember it being, it was very impactful for me.
And I remember that ever since.
I've known who you were.
Oh, that's encouraging.
You made an impact on my life early on about what type of Christian I was going to end up being.
Which is, anyway, it's just the Lord.
Yeah, good Lord Views for me.
Anyway, you comforted him.
You comforted me.
You spurred me up.
That's good.
And I saw Arnold Schwarzenegger that night.
And I saw Pauly Church.
It was a big deal.
Big night.
Anyway.
That's great.
That's good.
Yeah, I have seen videos of preaching when I've been talking to people online and people write and say, that is so-and-so.
You know, I didn't know who he was, which is probably just as well because I didn't feel slightly intimidated by not knowing who they were.
That's good.
So you would get intimidated by a celebrity.
It seems strange.
Oh, if Charlton Heston had heckled me, I may have.
No, no.
Really, I'm not intimidated by it.
What is going on?
No water for him.
Water for him.
I've got some timely references here.
Cassette tapes, Charlton Heston.
So do you?
The kids are going to love this.
Have you seen Ben Hur, the movie with Charlton Heston?
A very long time ago.
You need to repent.
Get back into it.
It's the best portrayal of the life of Christ in the world.
Oh, repentance.
Yeah, Ben Hurst.
Yeah, it was just goosebumps.
Did you see the reboot, the Hollywood reboot?
We watched it.
It was awful.
It was bad.
It was not as good.
I didn't see that.
It's just silly.
I have a story about that some other time.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Okay.
So is it well known why you guys call it Babylon B?
Essentially because we feel the church is in exile in Babylon in a lot of ways as Christians.
You know, there's a parallel to Israel being in exile in Babylon.
That's good.
I always wanted to ask.
Yeah.
And the B is a stinger.
You know, it's a satire stinging.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's good.
That's what it is.
Do you want to ask us any other questions?
Yeah, why are your arms folded?
Are you cold?
No, it makes my muscles look a little bit.
Actually, I've got a story about that.
I used to do that as a kid down the beach to impress the girls who went past, and I was telling when I'm a grandchildren, I said, you used to do this.
And I pushed on my bicep and nothing happened.
It's all reflex and it kind of comes down to the bottom.
Yeah, so I thought aging is coming.
It happens to us all.
Yeah.
So what message do you have for a Christian who either doesn't think they need to evangelize or just hasn't been faithful in that area or says, that's not my gifting?
Yeah, well, like we said, oh, we went back to that marathon runner.
That marathon runner and that anecdote or analogy, shall I say, means that any of us can gain the skills that we need to share the gospel with proficiency.
I would say to any Christian who is not using his life to do God's will needs to have a Gethsemane experience.
A Gethsemane experience is when you get on your knees and you sweat drops of blood at the thought of evangelism.
And it makes us sweat drops of blood.
Approaching strangers, how do you do that?
You know, but you end up saying, not my will, but yours be done.
That's what a Christian is.
Someone who lives a life of self-denial.
He takes up his cross, daily, denies himself.
I go to a local college twice a day on my electric bike with my dog, and we both wear sunglasses.
And I film people for a YouTube channel.
It's just past 235 million views.
And we're in awe at that.
But I do that, and I don't feel like doing it.
Days that I sit, I'm like a lazy boy at home.
I could just sit and watch an old black and white movie, and I just feel like sitting there.
But I don't.
I don't want to waste my life.
I don't want to say, as I lie on my deathbed, I serve myself.
It's futile.
I feel sorry for billionaires, those poor, wretched people that are going to leave everything behind and have nothing and no hope in their death.
And so if you're a Christian and you're not serving God in the area of evangelism, because that's what Jesus came for.
He came to seek and save that which is lost.
That's why he died on the cross, to grant sinners, those who sit in the shadow of death, everlasting life.
Don't waste your life.
Serve the Lord with all your heart.
And the key is to lay it all down.
When I became a Christian, I laid it all down.
I had a Gethsemane experience.
That's normal biblical Christianity.
Don't hold back anything.
So I don't mind looking like a fool for Christ.
I don't mind saying I believe all the Bible.
I don't mind saying Jesus died for me.
Why should I be ashamed of that?
And be bold in your faith and use every day.
Teach me to number my days that I might apply my heart to wisdom.
Because this life goes quick.
I feel like an 18-year-old inside.
I really do.
I look in the mirror and think, that's not an 18-year-old.
And I think, how quickly this life has passed.
You know, it's one life soon be passed.
Only what's done for Christ will last, as someone once said.
C.T. Studd, I think it was.
So use your life to serve.
Cricketeer and pioneer.
What's that?
C.T. Studd, cricketeer, and pioneer.
Yeah, that is so true.
Cricketeer.
Pioneer.
His biography was really good.
Norman Grubb, anyway.
Yeah, totally, totally committed to the Lord.
Yeah, wonderful.
He laid it all down.
And that's the key.
And let me share a dumb little story.
It's a kid's story.
About a little train.
It's famous.
He was coming down, it's called Toodled, coming down a hill, and he began thinking, I'd love to be free like those ponies in the field and those lambs leaping around.
So one day, he jumps off the rails, and all he got was disaster because the train was not designed to find freedom jumping around in a field, but within the confines of the tracts.
That's the designers created it to find freedom in the confines of the tracts.
That's where it finds expression.
And we're designed to have freedom in a yoked relationship with Jesus Christ.
Learn of me and yoke yourself to me, he said, and you'll find freedom or rest to your souls.
And that's where you find freedom when you give everything to the Lord.
Don't hold back.
Don't say, I'm going to give him everything, but I'm going to hold back and sport.
Going to hold back in this.
So I just want to make a little bit of money.
I want to do this.
I want to travel.
No, give it all to the Lord.
Everything you've got comes from him.
You don't take one breath.
Isn't a gift from God.
Not one drop of your blood isn't a gift from God.
Your eyes you see with, your brain you think with, the ears that you hear good music with.
Everything is a gift from God.
So we owe him everything.
Absolutely everything.
What would you say to those pastors that are kind of saying, no, relational evangelism is the way to go?
Kind of the squishy, sort of softer approach to evangelism.
I hear it a lot, you know, evangelism in a postmodern matrix or something like that.
Preach the gospel if necessary.
If necessary.
Use words.
Use words.
Like, what do you say to this?
I wrote an article.
I wrote an article about that and titled it was St. Francis a Sissy.
That's pretty good.
Because it was attributed to him, although I don't think he said it.
I can't find anything.
Someone put that in his mouth, Mr. S.A. 10, I guess.
But yeah, I believe in relationship evangelism.
I build relationships with people.
I meet a complete stranger and I will build a relationship with him before I share the gospel, maybe a one- to two-minute relationship.
This is how I do it.
Someone comes to our ministry.
He's probably a plumber.
So I go up and say, How you doing?
What's your name?
He says, Bob.
I says, I'm Ray Bob.
Nice to meet you, Bob.
I've got a question for you.
Do you think there's an afterlife?
11 seconds.
That's all it takes if you've got a mind to.
And Bob just says, I don't know.
I said, do you think about it much?
He says, yeah, all the time.
Are you afraid of dying, Bob?
Yeah.
Bob hasn't mentioned that he's afraid of dying to his parents, to his wife, to his kids.
It's just an inner haunting.
And here I am asking him if he's fearful of dying.
So do you think there's an afterlife?
He says, I hope so.
So now his hope so has dissipated all my fears.
He's a human being with a will to live.
So I said, Bob, have you ever read the Bible?
He says, no, no.
You know, the Old Testament, God promised to destroy death.
In the New Testament, we're told how he did it.
And Bob's eyes widen.
Why?
Because he's not an ape.
He's not a primate.
He's a human being made in the image of God with a will to live.
Something in him says, oh, I don't want to die.
And so he's going to listen when I say to him, the Old Testament and the Old Testament promised, God promised he'd destroy death.
And in the New Testament, tells us how he did it.
And I say, do you know that, Bob?
And he says, I didn't know that.
So, well, let me share the gospel with you.
Is that okay?
Yeah, go for it.
So I'm going to have to take you through the commandments to show you're a sinner before we get to the gospel.
Is that okay?
He says, yeah, go for it.
So I've got complete license to share the full gospel without offense with a complete stranger.
And I haven't spent two years freaking out about talking to him.
And if I say, I'm going to talk to my neighbor in two years, that mountain's going to get bigger over those two years.
It's not going to get easier.
It's going to get harder.
And he could die in the two years than I'm messing around with the fear of man.
So I've got to just take a grip on myself and say, I will not fear because God's my helper.
So I do believe in relationship evangelism, but it's just a little squeezed.
Yeah, how long does the relationship have to be?
Yeah, and it's so unbiblical.
Yeah.
You know, Jesus sat down with Nicodemus for two years on the, you know, before he talked to him.
Jesus sat on the well with a woman at the well.
He waited for two years.
No, he told her about her adultery and how she needed God's mercy.
Yeah.
Excuse me.
So you're pretty prolific in terms of the books that you write and the evangelism that you do and the ministry.
I know that you're super busy.
What does your Bible reading time look like?
What does your prayer life look like?
And what do you read outside the Bible?
Yeah, you've, this is a little embarrassing, but I got up almost every night for 38 years to pray around midnight.
It wasn't easy to do, but I did it.
When I hit 70, I had to stop it because I just kept falling asleep.
Something happened.
I'd kneel down and I'd just find two hours later, I'd just wake up.
So I stopped doing that.
So my prayer life has changed from being a really disciplined time in the middle of the night to praying in bed at night and falling asleep a dozen times as I do it.
So I've tried to pray without ceasing.
Just make that a lifestyle, as scripture says to do.
Most of my work is done in the middle of the night.
I've got a wonderful wife.
I open my iPad and just, I can write a book, or I can write a book very quickly by dictating onto my notes and my iPad.
It's just amazing.
What used to take me months can take me weeks now.
When I wrote my first book, if I want to do research, I'd go to a library, find a library book that I wanted from many library books, find a place in the library book, take it to the librarian, she'd photocopy it for me, and then I'd take it home and type it out on a typewriter.
Remember those?
Typewriters.
Cassette tapes.
Cassette tapes.
Yeah, typewriters before all that.
But now I can find that same information in 30 seconds and cut and paste it and have it into a document just like that with the internet.
So it sped up the whole process.
I was reading a C.S. Lewis book and he quoted somebody and he said, he says in there, I cannot cite this reference because I can't find the book that it was from.
You know, like he cites some of the church fathers and says, I can't find it.
He publishes this book and just goes, I looked in all the libraries.
I couldn't find this.
Couldn't find it.
But I know it's there.
I know I read it once.
It's out there.
You know, now we can just Google it.
That's amazing.
It's absolutely incredible, the technology.
And so as Christians, we've got to take advantage of this technology.
Thank God that I'm not like 90 and so I don't know what the internet is, and that I took advantage of it when it came out.
So, books outside the Bible.
I love, I read more than reading books, I read stuff online.
I don't read physical books, although physical books are wonderful to purchase.
I highly recommend spending money on physical books.
Especially so many lions.
Yes, thank you for that.
But yeah, I find it so convenient.
And at my age, I can enlarge the print, which is what's good, and I can make the background brighter or lighter or whatever.
And my favorite author would be Spurgeon, for sure.
The prince of preachers, just such great quality.
Did you yawn when I was speaking?
Yeah, I was really bored.
He said Spurgeon.
I'm sure.
Sorry.
Yeah, Spurgeon was absolutely amazing.
If he'd spoken in his sleep, he should have been quoted.
Whatever he mumbled.
What would you recommend from Spurgeon?
Lectures to my students is absolutely wonderful.
Letters or lectures?
Lectures to my students.
Oh, lectures.
It's Spurgeon just letting it all down.
And you can find his humor in there as he shared with his students.
It's a wonderful book.
In fact, my wife lost a lot of sleep because of that book.
I'd be in bed reading it, and I'd just go, wake up, listen to this.
You slap a lot of people.
Yeah, I slap a lot of people.
It's a short man comment.
Would you slap a cigar out of Spurgeon's mouth?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
It was his conscience.
I wouldn't smoke a cigar.
It stunts growth.
But you wouldn't slap it out of Spurgeon.
But you wouldn't slap it out of Spurgeon.
I would be terrified even Stan and Spurgeon's presence.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
I'd be intimidated with his intellect and his humility.
What does your Bible reading look like?
I read scripture with my wife every night about six o'clock.
We had family devotions as a family with the kids every night.
We read the scriptures before we go to sleep at night, and I read the scriptures at night in the middle of the night on an iPod, which I put on Velcro with a kind of a wooden thing that comes down like that.
So I'm lying on my pillow and I've got it scrolled through so I can read like Psalms until I go to sleep.
I soak my soul in the Word of God.
Do you follow any kind of plan?
Like, I'm going to read through in the year.
Yeah, it's a chaotic plan.
Chaotic.
It's not a plan.
No, it's not a plan.
It's not a Bible in the year plan.
No, but we do have them and they're really good and we have done that.
I did actually do that with the Amplified Bible, but the neighbors got annoyed with the sound I was making.
It was very noisy with the Amplified Bible.
What's your preferred translation?
New King James.
I like New King James.
That's my preferred reading just to normal reading translation.
Yeah, it's very close to the King James without the archaism.
I'm going to get letters about that.
Yeah, you are.
That's right.
You're going to get very upset.
People.
The guy who runs JesusSavior.com, he's going to be a KJB.
Oh, boy, he doesn't like me.
KJB doesn't like me.
Oh, you know who he is.
Are you featured on his?
Oh, yes, along with Spurgeon and MacArthur, and he's put me with all those.
Yeah, I've seen the MacArthur ones.
Yeah, the guy's crazy.
He is.
A little bit crazy.
We did a review of his website.
We did.
Oh, you did?
It was a fun review.
is he a flat earther yeah I think he's I don't know It's possible he is.
I'm a flat sunner.
It's a new theory I've got.
I think the sun's just flat.
It's just a disc.
It's a disc that's facing us.
If it went sideways, we'd see it, I'm sure.
Hey, we should do this little segment here.
Oh, yeah.
We wanted to.
This is cool.
So you are the master at segueing, and we might have done this when you came out the last time.
But you were the master of segueing from a topic, like you said, building relationships with you.
Now you've set the bar really high.
You're going to put it in the middle of the world.
You're a master.
You are the master, and we want to learn the way.
We want to learn the way of this is the way.
So what are you going to do?
Give me like a lemon or something?
We're going to give you a question.
We're going to say something, and you're going to transition it into the gospel.
Into an object lesson, because you are the object listener.
Yeah, we'll see.
All right, Pokemon, got to catch them all.
Yeah, Pokemon, got to catch them all.
Do you think you're a good person?
That was a good way to do that.
There is a good way to move anything from a site.
Let me tell you how to do it.
You just say, while you're on that subject, and you can swing to it.
And I've actually done it when witnessing to people.
Someone's talking about evolution, and I'll just say, look, while we're on that subject, do you think God created man in his own image?
And you can change it just with that little phrase, and it's legitimate to do so.
But really, there is a sermon in most things except Pokemon.
So that's the only one.
Well, you've got to catch them all.
You've got to catch all the people.
All right.
How about this one?
Let's go, Brandon.
Let's go, Brandon.
Is this Brandon a Carol?
Watch your mouth.
This is Brandon the Care or what?
Do you know the phrase, let's go, Brandon?
Yeah, I've heard of it.
It was a criticism of Kennedy.
Of who?
Of the president, Joe.
President.
Oh, that's right.
Yes.
Yeah.
No, I have actually stayed off television for the last two years.
It's so negative.
I mean, we watch old stuff.
But I'm talking about specifically the news.
I watched it the other night, and I just went down in depression.
It was about people being killed and what's happening overseas and wars.
If it bleeds, it leads, and the blood just fills our carpet.
I've just had enough of it.
So, you know, we are living in the last days when men's hearts will fail them for fear of that which is coming upon the earth.
And there's a lot of bad things coming on the earth, including a piece of seaweed that's twice the size of the United States that's heading for Florida.
Did you knew about that?
No, I haven't heard that.
Wait, say that again, Abbott.
It's a piece.
This is not a joke.
This is like a 1950s horror movie that's cheesy.
You know, like the blob or something.
The blob, the man-eating tomato or tomato.
This is there is a hunk of seaweed that is twice the size of the United States that's heading for the coasts of Florida.
Where is it coming from?
From the ocean.
I know, but which direction?
I can't know whatever direction Florida is in.
But you check it out.
It's been in the news, and it's not an exaggeration, and it really is like one of those cheesy movies.
But it's true.
It's a B movie.
What would be the consequences of a large piece of seaweed?
Oh, it stinks.
Oh.
It gets on the shore and it stinks and causes respiratory problems.
Oh, no.
Yeah, it's really bad.
So that's like the wrath of God.
Well, we're losing God's blessing on the nation.
Every area, look.
Yeah, this is a transition.
We're losing.
Look at California.
We're in drought and suddenly we're all drowning.
And tornadoes that are whipping through the country, it's not unusual to have 40 tornadoes in one night hitting one area.
You think, what is going on?
This isn't signs.
This is a sign of God's blessing.
Cancer flooding of the nation.
We've got hurricanes lining up.
We've got running out of names for them because there's so many.
These aren't signs of God's blessing.
And we need to, as a nation, get right with God as individuals and as a nation and plead for God to heal this land.
I wish the Bible would have predicted this and warned us about wars and rumors of the world.
Yeah, I wish Jesus had talked about this.
And seaweed, the size of the twice the size of the sea.
When you see seaweed the size of the United States, you will know the end is nigh.
All right, here's another one.
You can transition into a guy.
We'll do a couple more of these.
Kevin Sorbo.
Kevin Sorbo.
Oh, Hercules.
Right.
Yeah, strength, strength of character.
And if you want to see strength of character, look at the life of Christ.
Nobody like him.
He was approached by Pharisees who thought they were going to outwit them.
One question from Jesus, and it stopped their mouths.
And it says they never spoke back to him again because his words were such power and with great wisdom.
So we are physical strength.
The Bible says God takes no pleasure in the legs of a man.
It doesn't matter how fast a man can run.
God's not impressed.
But what impresses God is strength of character, humility of heart.
And that's what we see epitomized in Christ.
That was a good term.
Stronger than Kevin Sorbo.
Well, thanks for coming in, Ray.
This is awesome.
Everybody, if you want to be comforted, please check out the book.
So many Lions, So Few Daniels.
And there's the livingwaters.com forward slash London for the free tracks that we'll pay the shipping for.
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Got into the car and grabbed the towel, dried myself.
It was a nice dry towel.
Had some candy that was there.
And as I sat there, I thought, car's changed on the inside since I went out.
Turned out I was in the wrong car.
I'd used some guy's towel to dry myself and eaten his candy.
Did you ever fess up or leave a note?
The guy just got into his car and his towel was gone.
His candy was gone.
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