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I kept rebranding it now.
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What?
Oh, right, because when you started that sentence, I took the letter Y as the word Y, and then I didn't understand the thing.
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Isn't it always outnumbered?
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Because we have half.
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I didn't hate all men.
Yeah.
I think there's a strong.
I think it's more of a fringe thing, personally.
No.
Woman, I don't let me man split it to you.
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This is gripping television.
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You want to move on to the women representative for the week?
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Well, so we have obviously the really sad, tragic story this week of the shooting at Covenant School in Nashville.
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What's in the news this week?
So yeah, we do have this sad story about the mass shooting at Covenant Presbyterian Church, Covenant School in Tennessee.
There was three nine-year-olds, including the daughter of the pastor, the school headmaster, a substitute teacher, and the custodian that were killed.
And it was a 28-year-old female.
They said it is a former student or it's not.
I read that they didn't confirm it.
This is unconfirmed now.
Dan's read that they confirmed it, but possibly a former student.
It was, I mean, it's 28-year-old, so it's an elementary school, right?
Yeah.
So a former student from a decade ago, but had illegally attained, obtained weapons.
So she had a whole bunch of guns at her home.
You should legally obtain?
Legally.
Yeah.
though she was under some sort of mental health treatment yeah they don't categorize like gender dysphoria as a mental health condition right with which they should but there's a lot of there was other things going on right yeah Yeah.
Yeah, so it was a transgender person that was the shooter.
And of course, the media has just been falling all over themselves to get the gender pronouns correct as the murderer.
It's a horrible story.
One of the most insane ones I saw, CNN, who jumps at the chance anytime there's a white shooter or anytime there's a shooter that matches their narrative, they jump to make it about the agenda.
They jump to make it about the motive.
They jump to make it about whatever story they can push.
And here, they've avoided in almost every story mentioning that this is a transgender person.
Then they started mentioning the little blurb at the bottom.
And one of the most ridiculous things they've done in quotes from the police where the police chief in Nashville, filling them in an information about this tragedy, said she and her to refer to the shooter.
And CNN in their quotes edits out all the pronouns and puts the shooter's last name, Hale, in parentheses, because they're going out of their way to be sensitive to this murder that killed children.
It's insane.
It's a mass shooter that killed people.
It's insane.
Who cares about your pronouns?
They pander these people in this insane way.
It's crazy.
Like, you kill people.
I don't care to respect you in any way.
And the person is female.
We all know that this person's female.
We need to stop playing this stupid gender game.
The New York Times initially ran this article about how it's so rare for mass shooters to be female.
And then when it came out that this person identified as a man, they retracted the story and said, oh, no, we didn't have all the information as if it wasn't a female shooter.
You would think shouldn't they be publishing about how white males are most of the shooters?
Like, I haven't seen anything about that.
It's as if they don't want to say that this is a good idea.
As soon as I heard it was like, oh, we think it's a female shooter.
I was like, something weird is going to be a little bit more.
Something's up because it's never.
It is very short.
It's never a female shooter.
I can't even think of the last one that was a female.
I think the last one that I remember, I don't think the person successfully pulled off a mass shooting, but a few years ago, there was at a Google headquarters in San Francisco where someone attempted to shoot them, and then I think they were stopped or something.
But I think that person was a woman.
But that's the last one I remember that was a biological female.
This is a woman on testosterone.
Yeah.
Possibly.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if this person got the hormone treatments or what was going on there yet.
Yeah, we're still waiting for a lot of the facts to come out.
But there have been a few shooters now in recent memory that have been transgender.
They never want to make that part of the narrative.
I don't think they're going to release any of that information.
And they also wiped all her social media accounts.
And it's really weird.
Before they released the name, they raided her home.
So they're playing some weird game here.
They're covering something up.
They're not going to release the manifesto that she wrote too.
So they want to just control the narrative of maybe this person is angry at this Christian school.
Well, the media narrative very quickly shifted after the shooting.
They usually start pushing gun control right away.
And this time they immediately shifted to there was anti-trans rhetoric in Nashville or at the school that led to this or in the shooter's home.
NBC News tweeted this link to a story.
Fear pervades Tennessee's trans community amid focus on Nashville shooters' gender identity.
We were already fearing for our lives and now it's even worse.
It's just disgusting because there's places like NBC and CNN that make the focus about identity in these shootings anytime it benefits their story.
Anytime, any other time, they will be the ones that obsess over the identity of the shooter and the motives.
And that doesn't fit it.
They want to just drum up sympathy for the trans community after a trans person kills kids.
I think they are still talking about gun control because they'll definitely push it, but that's going to be less part of the narrative as it usually is.
They're talking about an assault weapons ban, but no one can define what an assault weapon means.
Isn't any gun an assault weapon?
They just use those terms like weapons of war.
They have all these monikers that they use to make sure that they're trying to define it.
Yeah.
Well, Reuters tweeted, former Christian school student kills three children and three staff in Nashville shooting.
And it's so bizarre when you look at that framing compared with what they would do if it was a white man who killed a black man or a white officer.
It would all be the intersectionality and the races and the classes and all of that.
It's now they're saying that it's a Christian school student.
They want to identify the shooter as Christian because it was a former Christian school student rather than identifying the person as transgender.
New York Post tweeted, shooter Audrey Hale's parents couldn't accept their daughter's trans identity.
I haven't seen this kind of like lionization of a mass shooter in my lifetime.
It's insane.
There's a Daily Mail U.S. exclusive Nashville mass school shooter was rejected by her Christian parents, trans outcast.
So are they rejecting her now that she's a school shooter too?
Like, how are they trying to frame her as a victim?
What do they accomplish that?
We're like, what are they accomplishing, making that this trans shooter is the victim?
I don't know.
And did you see the clip of you saw the clip of Joe Biden laughing about it when they asked, a reporter asked him, Do you think this shooter targeted Christians?
Because Senator, I think it was Josh Holly thinks so.
And Biden laughs and goes, Well, then I probably disagree.
And then he goes, Ha ha, no, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Like, it's a joke.
That was after he had shown when he was going to address the school shooting.
He did the chocolate ice cream.
He talked about ice cream for five minutes.
That was so bizarre.
I thought that was fake, like a conservative fake news thing to try to make Biden seem insane.
Yeah.
And then I went on ABC to see, okay, are they showing the same video?
He knows he's told beforehand that he's going to talk about the school shooter.
And he goes up there and says, Hi, I'm President Biden.
I'm Dr. Joe Biden's husband, and I like ice cream.
I heard there was ice cream down here.
You're here to talk about it.
Just insane.
Well, the heroes here, though, were the Nashville Police Department.
I want to say the upside.
Yeah.
The silver lining.
They stopped this tragedy from becoming even worse very quickly.
It took 14 minutes for first responders from the police department to run towards the gunfire and take her out.
You compare that to like the Broward County and some of the other recent ones.
That was the Highland Park one that Uvalde was the other one where they were kind of sitting around for hours.
And I got to say, there was a recent school shooting scare near me.
There was a high school that's right down the street from me that had a lockdown because they thought there was an inactive shooter.
It turned out to be a false, like a hoax call.
But from the moment they called, there was like 30 cops, you know, just completely surrounding the school, completely locked down, helicopters, cops busting in.
Like they, they really have started to up their response on these things, I think, in most departments.
So I was really impressed with that.
And I'm glad that nothing actually happened there.
I know, I think in LA County, the response time is like under a minute for police showing up for mass shooters.
But it's like they know that this 14 minutes is way too long.
They know that it takes minutes.
Like the Florida shooting was like five minutes.
You need to go into the building as soon as possible.
And I have no respect for those cops that were just waiting outside for orders.
Yeah.
Yeah, you got to do something.
I mean, and that was at the Uvalde one where parents were running in.
Yeah.
You know, because then the cops are trying to do their parents.
That's what I would do.
Well, where are we at as a culture?
What's happening that's making all these mass shootings happen?
I mean, you know, the left wants to say it's just the guns.
Here's a Wall Street Journal poll that shows the percentage of people who say these values that patriotism and religion are very important values to them.
And the number has just plummeted from even the late 90s until today.
You have just about a third of the population that says that patriotism is important, religion is important.
Having children, just 30% now.
Community involvement, 27%.
But silver lining.
Money up 12%.
The amount of people who say money is an important value.
I feel like money should be higher than that.
Yeah, I think it's definitely higher than that if people were being honest.
Percentage of people.
I just like all of those things.
Like religion's up for me, patriotism's up for me, and money.
And it's all at the same time.
They say you can't serve both God and man.
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.
I wouldn't even know where to begin with community involvement.
Like, I can't even think of an example of like being involved in my community.
I talked to my neighbors.
I mean, I think that's, I think at its basic level, that's where you start.
Didn't there used to be more clubs and community things?
I don't know.
I grew up in the country.
We don't have a community.
I mean, I don't know if this is what that's talking about, but I know around LA they have, you know, food banks and volunteer efforts.
And even, you know, like churches can help out with local charities and events and stuff like that.
That's what I, that's what I think of as a community.
Like getting involved is being involved in the community.
Okay.
Yeah.
Church, yeah.
Church counts, I think.
I think that's part of community.
Well, here's a chart that says the percentage of U.S. undergraduates who have been diagnosed with a mental illness over the last 15 years or so.
And anxiety has had a 134% increase since 2010.
Depression, a similar increase.
ADHD is slowly on the rise.
And then these other ones are similar percentage increases.
Whoa, schizophrenia.
It's a huge increase.
Schizophrenia, substance abuse, or addiction, anorexia, bipolarism.
Is that what that's called?
Bipolarity.
Yeah, I mean, I do think we're dealing with a mental health crisis.
And you know, in the transgender community, that's, I mean, all of them.
Right.
I mean, I mean, I'm not saying all of them have all of these, but like, if you think the gender dysphoria already is indicative of something going on, they need to classify that as a mental illness.
100%.
It's not helping them.
No, they're harming themselves and they're harming others because of this mental illness.
I also don't understand.
Do you guys know what they're talking about when they say?
Because a lot of this was fueled.
We don't know exactly what the shooter was feeling, but a lot of the kind of violent rhetoric of the trans community is fueled by their kind of talking points that the trans community is under a genocide.
So, and the trans day of vengeance.
And I don't know what they even mean, like, because there's high rates of suicide among.
So, I don't, I don't know all the details about it.
I don't know where the trans day of vengeance comes from.
But one of the things that I actually looked into recently that's very interesting.
So, there's a website called the Human Rights Campaign, and they keep a list where they every year they do this thing where they say there's an epidemic of violence against trans people.
So, this year they say there were 38 transgender people that were the victims of fatal violence.
And they have a list of all the victims.
And they present this under the context that this is because of discrimination against trans people.
That they are, they put out this fake idea.
You'll hear rhetoric where they say a trans person can't walk down the street without feeling safe.
And they wanted to make it sound like people are just attacking trans people for being trans.
If you actually research each of the victims on this list of 38 trans people who died, now it's tragic that they all died.
And anyone who murders a trans person deserves to be brought to justice.
Out of those 38, only one was a biased incident where someone attacked a trans person because of their trans identity.
All of the others, they stem from domestic disputes between the person and their partner, which domestic violence accounts for lots of murders and violence in this country.
That's not unique to trans people.
There's also ones where they were killed by other trans people or by other people in the LGBT community.
There's ones where they're killed during robberies and things like that.
Now, it doesn't mean that any of those deaths aren't tragic, but when they use this rhetoric of there's a genocide of trans people, they're trying to take incidents like that in the same way a lot of other groups, like they'll say anytime a person of this identity politics group is subject to crime, it's because of discrimination.
They assume it was a hate crime, but that's not what the facts say.
Yeah, I kind of assumed it was something like that, and I'm glad that you actually had the facts to back up my assumption.
Well, I know they always say that like a trans woman would go on a date with a man and the man doesn't know that it's a biological man, and then they become violent when they find that out.
Yeah, it's not.
I don't know.
I think that has happened.
I don't know how often that is now.
You can pretty much tell.
Men get tricked all the time.
That does happen.
You would get tricked.
Yeah.
I would get tricked.
You would get tricked.
I won't be.
I think the majority of men would be tricked.
I think the majority of trans women don't really look like women.
Like, I know that's the fantasy they try to say.
They almost always tell.
Yeah.
Like, usually at least a little.
I don't know.
I'm watching.
I can almost always tell.
I've only been tricked three times ever.
Three dates I can think of.
I'm watching this show where they like.
It's not violent.
You were not violent with it.
They catfish each other in the show.
And the men are always, always tricked by men pretending to be women in the show.
But I'm saying, like, yeah.
I guess I'm saying if you go meet someone for a date, you're going to be able to tell most of the time.
But you should just disclose it.
Like, if you're the trans person, you should disclose it.
Dicks close it.
That's not what I meant to say.
You should stumble.
Like, someone wants to date you and doesn't care that you're trans, but not everybody.
And that's not their fault.
Yeah.
But I think, like, I would, I'm guessing here, but I would suppose you met up for a date and you would be like, oh, yeah, yeah, sorry, man.
Like, never mind.
I mean, woman, you know.
I feel like Jordan has an anecdote about this from someone who probably does have an anecdote about this.
That got tricked.
And that spy.
Does he really?
Yeah, I think some of his family got tricked for a while.
I really think that men.
You're not, you're going to be tricked.
I won't name names.
I had a friend who was out at a bar, and there was, he was very drunk, and this trans person was there who was very drunk.
And we could all tell, and we're kind of suspicious of it, but he made out with this person while drunk.
And then the next day, found out that it was a trans person.
Now, here's what I think is always complicated about those situations: I don't believe that the gay panic defense is a justification for violence.
I don't think you should be able to freak out and injure the person or murder them.
But there is something in a very real way that seems like sexual harassment or sexual assault if this person who's biologically male is falsely representing themselves as female in order to have some sort of romantic encounter with a man who would not have agreed to that had he known otherwise.
I mean, I don't know if that's assault or harassment, but I it's not false advertising.
It would be non-consensual.
A man would not consent to that sort of touch.
You're not disclosing that.
But he's drunk.
Is the trans person drunk too in this equation?
Are they both drunk?
I think that's a debate over whether how inebriation affects it, though.
I'm saying there is something that seems like a violation for a trans person to present themselves to a man who would not consent to a relationship otherwise and then reveal later, oh, I'm a biological male.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I think they're probably assuming that you can tell and you're on board.
I think you can always tell.
Apparently, they're tricking.
I feel like I would love to test this out.
I bet you'd be tricked.
That'd be a great podcast segment.
We'll go to Thailand.
We'll go to see all the ladyboys.
Oh, Tyler.
We're going right to the difficulty level 10.
If you think there's a difficulty level 10, then that just says to me that you're going to be tricked.
I'm not going to be tricked.
Hold on.
Like, we're going to go bar switching.
I don't think I would be tricked, but I do think Thailand is difficulty level 10.
I'm not saying that you can always tell.
Never mind.
I'm just saying.
We're getting way off track here.
Yeah.
You're going to be tricked.
This is horrible.
That's why trans people shouldn't have to be able to do that.
Let's talk about Disney everywhere.
Well, yeah.
Anyway, thoughts and prayers to the victims of the shooting and their families, and we'll be looking for ways to help them in coming weeks here.
And yeah, pray for our culture.
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Hey, Disney is in the news.
Disney CEO Bob Iger has announced that they are laying off 7,000 employees.
That's probably not a good indicator for the economy.
Disney said last month that it plans to cut $5.5 billion in costs, including $3 billion in content spend.
So that means making more Seasons of the Mandalorian or something.
Disney shares are up 8% this year after plummeting 44% last year.
And Yeah, you guys still have Disney Plus, or any of you guys.
I use a friend's account and I still follow Mandalorian, but I don't watch anything else.
Have you watched season three?
No, I haven't yet.
I had it for Mandalorian, and I don't really care about Star Wars.
I just threw it.
I think they're hits right now.
Do they have any hits besides Mandalorian?
I think Andor was doing well.
That was one of the other things.
Oh, yeah, I heard that one was good.
But are they all Star Wars stuff, like Book Star Fed, or did they have anything else?
A couple of the Marvel shows did pretty well.
I don't like any of the Marvel shows.
There's too much Marvel now.
There's too much Star Wars, too.
I like Mandalorian, but there's just too much of it all of it.
It's flooded.
I didn't, you know, we'll talk about Jeremy Renner in a second, but I did enjoy the Hawkeye show, despite it being kind of cheesy.
I tried the low-key one.
Oh, I didn't watch that.
I did not like it.
You low-key did not like that.
I loaf.
I high-key didn't like.
All right.
Well, here's a good news update.
Jeremy Renner, the Hawkeye, is back on a specialized treadmill after being crushed by a snowplow.
So he's, they, I saw this described in the news as an anti-gravity treadmill.
Oh, look at that.
I don't know if there's, is there water in it or something?
I don't know.
I guess it's to help him physically recover because he had anything to do with it.
I think it holds you up so you can work out your muscles without putting too much pressure.
Yeah, so it's good.
It's like athletes use it.
Like when babies are in that thing that bounces.
Just like that.
Yeah.
Jeremy's going around.
They have little toys that he can play with on it.
Jeremy did an interview that will be on Disney Plus, so renew your subscription.
It seems like he's much better.
And there he is wearing shorts for the interview.
Shorts.
Yeah.
30%.
I'm excited on the shorts.
I didn't see the interview, didn't I?
I didn't watch it.
I don't have Disney Plus.
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It says Jeremy Renner says he'd throw himself in front of a snowplow again.
Why does that probably cut off before to save someone?
It looks really good.
The rest of the quote was probably to help someone else.
Maybe his depression is on the right.
He's not like, you know, it was a blast.
I'd do it again.
Jeremy, if you're watching this, we're praying for you to come on the podcast.
So CNN is warning you about digital blackface.
So basically, if you use a, if you're white and you use a GIF, Sahi said, GIF or a meme of a black person to emote something, then you are wearing digital blackface.
So if you say like, what?
And then you Google and you have a black guy popping up saying what, that's blackface and that's racism.
I had seen, I think, a Huffington Post article.
Maybe it was the same guy and they just republished an op-ed or something, but he had, a few years ago, did this argument that you can't use a GIF of a black person because it's saying that black people have over-the-top emotions for this or that and you're mocking them in a you know, like you're, you're appropriating black joy or black sadness.
If you use a gif of a black person and to that I give the Stanley uh eye roll emoji, I can't do it like Stanley can, just a roll gif I. What does it mean?
If you give the black thumbs up?
I like using the black thumbs up.
I use the black text messages.
My mom exclusively does that.
Yeah, maybe she's.
What does that figured out?
Because your mom no, you have to hold it down.
My, my mom is white yeah, and um yeah, you have to hold it down to change the color.
But she, you can set like.
You can set that as your default skin tone.
I told her that people use it based on their like, their skin color and she says oh, I just choose my favorite.
I really like the black one.
Okay.
So what does that mean?
I'm sure I'm not the first person to ask this question, but in these articles, I read the one on CNN.
I hadn't seen the one in Hufting Post.
Do they ever address, can black people use white people memes?
Is it that no one, you all have to use only memes that I'm sure in their mind it only goes one way, right?
But it's that thing where, oh, it's the ain't nobody got time for that lady.
That's whose picture they used for this one.
Is that a white writer from and then it is fun.
Everyone in the reactions, of course, when CNN posts this on Twitter, just post did black reaction memes.
We've got Shaq doing the finger guns.
I'm sure they have this kid looking around the corner with the question marks over his head.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They redefined.
They redefined racism so white people can't be racist because the majority isn't supposed to be, isn't racist according to their new definition.
So black people can use white people.
Here's a black guy on roller skates in his underwear, I think.
Yeah.
And he's rolling by like they don't care.
Here's a comment from the Hodge twins.
This may be the best Babylon B article y'all have ever wrote.
It's funny.
If this picture of the young captain of Gondor absolutely ripping a here gets more likes, then your article sucks.
And there's Faramir smoking a cigarette.
And then we've got an Ain't Nobody Got Time for That.
There she is.
And I saw at least one person who commented on this is Antoine Dodson, the Hide Your Kids, Hide Your Wife.
And he said he likes it because he's gotten when those GIFs and those clips go around, sometimes you get some back end residuals if they're used in certain contexts.
And I think he owns the right to that one.
Oh, that's great.
It also gets you a lot of, it gets you a lot of attention.
I think it'd be pretty cool to see somebody using a gif of me.
Like, oh, I hate it.
I don't know.
If you could prohibit one race from using a gif of you, what?
Oh, I'm not going to say.
Italians.
In Chick-fil-A news, is this Chick-fil-A Facts?
Yeah.
A fond farewell.
Spring is here and we are taking the opportunity to refresh our menu.
One of the changes is a farewell to our side salad beginning April 3rd.
So the side salad is being discontinued at Chick-fil-A.
You have to order fried chicken now.
You can't get a healthy salad.
Well, I think this is the regular salad.
But you can't replace your fries with a salad anymore.
Oh, okay.
If you're going to Chick-fil-A and you're getting a salad, what's the point of going to Chick-fil-A?
Well, the fries are so good when they're hot, but sometimes it's like, I just don't want that, you know, 500 calories and 4 billion carbs of fries.
So it's like, I'll get the side salad instead.
And eat the fries?
So when we order Chick-fil-A here, we get the mass order, I always end up picking at the fries.
I try not to.
They just sit there and it's like, when the fries are there, you got to eat them.
What is your guys' Chick-fil-A order?
The deluxe fried chicken sandwich.
That is good.
If I'm going to eat at Chick-fil-A, I'm not going to waste my happiness by eating a salad.
Yeah, I usually do.
I've been doing the grilled nuggies lately to cut the carbs.
But if something I actually really want, I'll probably get like the chicken strips, you know, the actual fried chicken strips, fries, and like frozen lemonade.
I'm over the sauce, though.
It's not the sauce.
And this is, Adam, have you accepted Chick-fil-A into your heart?
When we're here and we order it, I get the spicy chicken sandwich.
I'm not a fan of Chick-fil-A.
I was raised on KFC.
I like that.
Since then, I like Popeyes.
I like canes.
Chick-fil-A is way down there, really.
Cane sauce is so good.
I do like the Chick-fil-A.
I think Chick-fil-A is very overrated.
I used to do a joke in LA because I like antagonizing the crowds.
When Chick-fil-A was in that controversy, I did.
I forget how the whole bit went, but I said, I think Chick-fil-A is overrated.
I said, I'm probably the only person in LA who likes Chick-fil-A's politics, but doesn't like their sandwiches.
You're like, I like the homophobia, but I like that they believe in traditional marriage, but I don't need pickles on that chick-fil-a.
They're so strict.
If you work for Chick-fil-A, you have to cover your tattoos.
You have to wear black socks.
They're very strict.
Oh, you know where I did go?
I went to a Chick-fil-A in an airport recently, and I was disappointed.
I forget which airport it was.
It might have been, is there one in the Philadelphia airport, maybe?
But it was in the morning, and I don't want to say it was Philadelphia airport because I don't want to get someone, I don't want to say the wrong thing about the wrong person, but their attitude was much more an airport employee than a Chick-fil-A employee.
They were very rude.
They did not say the what's the thing they say?
My pleasure.
No, they had airport employee attitude.
Say it a lot.
Say it a lot.
Not Chick-fil-A employee attitude.
Well, Mark Hamill is lending his Luke Skywalker voice to an app that warns Ukrainians of potential incoming attacks.
When the alert is over, Hamill closes the alert with, May the force be with you.
So if this was a Babylon B article, I would have, I would have said, like, this is this is too cringy.
This is lame.
It doesn't make sense.
Yeah, exactly.
I wouldn't have approved that article.
No.
Like, they're literally at war, and you have the time to get Luke Skywalker to.
And if they wanted to get a Star Wars character, how can you not go for Admiral Ackbar?
It's a trap right before the missile comes in.
That's what you want to hear.
This is going to be the, like, how, how narcissistic do you have to be to lend your voice for this?
Like, I want my voice to be the last thing that they hear before they die of an air raid.
That's crazy.
And he probably thinks he's doing his duty to help, you know, defend.
How are you helping?
I don't know.
But good for him.
I would have preferred to jar Jar Binks.
I would be worried that people are in danger.
I would be worried that people would take it seriously.
If I heard that, people would be like, is that a serious missile alarm?
No, it was Luke Skywalker.
There's no way that's serious.
He's not even real.
Banger of the week.
All right, well, it's time for our banger of the week.
Doctors report startling rise in testicular injuries among woman athletes.
Happening more and more.
Interesting.
One of my favorite parts of this kind of Babylon B article is the scientists that all wear their lab coats and to the meeting.
They come to the meeting still wearing their lab coats.
And I like the chart with no access labels.
It's just an arrow going up.
They've gone up.
They went down for a minute, they didn't.
I really came back up.
Is that even like it's not even at the zero line?
I guess it's maybe over here.
Yeah.
All right.
And we also have a bomb of the week.
Bomb of the week.
Truth social developers feverishly working to fix bug that makes Trump's posts appear in all caps.
It's funny how he types in caps.
Why does he do that?
I don't know.
It's all caps.
And then his tweets, they always have weird time stamps on them.
You read the crazy thing he wrote, and then it's like 4:30.
Just wakes up.
I got to hammer this one.
Does it show you his time or your, like, as your time?
I don't know.
I honestly don't know.
It'll probably show your time.
Yeah.
And now it's time for the Babylon Bee's Bible verse of the week.
Amen.
This is from Proverbs 30, 18 through 19.
Three things are too wonderful for me.
Four I do not understand.
The way of an eagle in the sky.
The way of a serpent on a rock, the way of a ship on the high seas, and the way of a man with a virgin.
First three, wonderful, last one don't understand.
All right.
Well, if anybody's a Hebrew scholar and wants to let us know what those mean, sometimes you come across those in the Old Testament, and like there's a Hebrew metaphor that idiom I don't understand.
I do prefer the Bible translations that don't try to transliterate it into a modern thing or something.
I just want to read it and be like, well, don't understand that.
You don't like to worry about it.
I kind of get the way of an eagle in the sky thing.
Yeah.
We don't understand creation.
Like, how does the bird fly?
You know, well, serpents like that.
They like to hang out in the sun on a hot.
And then jump out when you go hiking past.
Yeah.
And then try to kill you.
Okay.
Well, that's the Bible versus the week.
If you know Hebrew, please let us know what that means.
Maybe this guy just didn't know where babies come from.
He just doesn't understand.
I don't understand what happens with a man and a virgin.
What goes on there?
What's even...
Well, if Solomon wrote this, I think he knew his way around a virgin.
That's true.
All right, it's time for Sizzler Facts.
357 days ago, we debuted a new feature on the podcast called Sizzler Facts.
It's almost been a full year.
Here's our Sizzler Fact for this week.
On the second episode of season one of Anthony Bourdain's Parts Unknown, his guest David Chloe took Anthony to a local Sizzler restaurant in Los Angeles.
In the episode, David showed up dressed in his self-described Sizzler outfit, an all-red two-piece satin suit with matching shirt and tie.
Anthony observed in a bemused fashion as Koey unceremoniously crammed several meatballs into a taco shell, displaying the bevy of choices the Sizzler salad bar offers its patrons.
Anthony described the cheese toast as delicious, and you could see his eyes light up when he realized it was complimentary.
This has been Sizzler Facts.
All right, that's interesting.
I've seen that segment.
Now it's time for Sizzler Commons.
Sizzler Commons.
This is from Preston Michael.
My reaction when they didn't do a Sizzler fact on the live podcast.
Oh, it's Kyogo Saan.
Oh, yeah.
There's a fun video or GIF of me going Super Saiyan that Emma made.
Now it's time for weekly news with Adam Jenser.
It's time for the weekly news with Adam Jenser.
In an interview with Newsmax, Donald Trump said he is not considering rival Ron DeSantis as a 2024 running mate and said it would be a very unlikely alliance, unlike the Democrats who are running candidates who hate each other.
The world's oldest drag queen, Darcell, died this week at the age of 92, while the world's youngest drag queen is still being groomed at your local library.
CNN published an article claiming that when white people use black memes, it's equivalent to digital blackface, leaving Americans wondering, huh?
And really?
CNN is still trying to determine whether Michael Jackson memes count as black or white.
Two men fleeing from Cuba flew to Key West, Florida together in a motorized hang glider.
And lucky for them, no one in Florida can say that's gay.
An Australian startup company announced that they made a meatball out of lab-grown woolly mammoth meat.
Said an excited Joe Biden, I haven't had one of those since I was a kid.
But congrats to this company for successfully bringing the extinct woolly mammoth back to dead.
A New York animal shelter announced that after a six-week training program, a destructive bulldog named Ralphie the Demon Dog has been adopted for the fourth time.
Ralphie is described as mean, violent, and still safer for your kids than a pit bull.
The Manhattan grand jury investigating Donald Trump is taking a one-month break, delaying any further action on an indictment.
But Democrats have promised to come up with a few new Trump investigations you can watch in the meantime.
A shoplifter in Oregon was sentenced to 70 months in prison for biting off a Nordstrom security guard's ear.
Luckily, Nordstrom's was able to cover the victim's medical bills by selling one t-shirt.
During a Texas AM baseball game, a streaker in a Star Wars mask ran on field and pulled down his pants as fans realized that's no space station, that's a moon.
This week, Tom Brady bought a WNBA team and is now part owner of the Las Vegas Aces, officially making him the most recognizable athlete in the WNBA.
That's it for weekly news.
To see more, check out my YouTube channel and come see me live.
I'll be at the Funny Farm in Ohio April 7th and 8th, and at the Comedy Chateau in North Hollywood on April 14th.
And now it's time for the abolition of Kyle Mann.
I like when I barely catch up on these segment ideas right before the podcast.
Yeah, we kind of find out about them as we read the title.
So I've been reading a ton of C.S. Lewis, and Abolition of Man is one of my favorite C.S. Lewis works.
And he posits the idea that beauty is objective.
And the Platonic ideal of beauty.
This kind of goes back to Plato and what are the platonic ideals.
And I posed this question on Twitter, a poll, which is the greater error.
Beauty is subjective, or men can become women.
And 90% of people said men can become women is the greater error over beauty being subjective.
But I suggest that beauty being subjective is the greater error in the sense that A leads to B, in the sense that our culture had to swallow the lie that everything is subjective, truth, beauty, and goodness, before we would swallow the lie that men can become women.
And I think this indicates that so few people voted for that one.
I think it indicates that we have swallowed the idea that when I say the word beauty, you think subjective.
Like you think, well, what do I find beautiful?
Not what is objectively beautiful in the world.
And my job is to align my soul to those things that are external to me.
Does C.S. Lewis equate beauty with good?
Yes, I would think so.
And I think that's part of the point because you might say, well, beauty is defined a little differently now.
But I think that's part of the problem, is that we've defined beauty in this way.
Is beauty not at all subjective?
See, it's interesting because I think the idea, the concept of beauty in the Platonic sense, is objective.
There is, we all kind of agree when you think about the concept of beauty itself, I think we're all thinking about the same thing, but we might each find different things beautiful.
I find men beautiful, and you guys find women beautiful.
But I think there's a difference between attraction and preference and objective beauty.
Right?
Like, I think my wife is the hottest woman in the world, right?
But I could look at another woman and say, well, objectively, there's beauty there.
God created this person, but I don't have to be attracted to that woman, you know, in the same way.
So I think there's also, there's also preferential weighting for yourself.
You know, maybe you prefer a sunrise to a sunset or something like that.
But I think there's still an objective beauty there, and you couldn't say sunsets are ugly.
And the standard that both people, whether you find men beautiful and men find girls beautiful, the things that you're, the attributes that are contributing to the idea of beauty, it might be, you know, goodness in their personality or an aesthetically pleasing look.
Right.
So you might have different tastes when it comes to that stuff, but the standard of beauty itself is an objective standard.
I think there's some parts of sub like some of it is subjective.
So, yes, objective as like, oh, this waterfall is beautiful, because I think that's an example.
But if you're comparing two waterfalls, it's going to be subjective of which one is more beautiful.
So, to me, I think I'm going to vote with them, men can become woman is a greater error.
That's where society is at right now.
Modernist.
Well, I want as if all society would agree on that thing, then we can get to, we can go back to the other thing.
And the platonic fix the first thing before you get to the second thing.
You can't fix the second thing until we fix the first thing.
You're not even going to get to it.
We're all going to be dead by then.
That's probably true.
In the platonic sense, each of those waterfalls is a reflection of the ideal of beauty.
There is no one person, even though one person likes this waterfall and one person likes this waterfall.
You're both recognizing in that the reflection of true beauty.
And where it becomes corrupted, though, is if you start pursuing the beautiful in the world, if you start pursuing the object and beautiful things rather than beauty itself.
Yeah, beauty is a platonic standard that is outside of our reality.
And things are beautiful only insofar as they reflect that truth.
And they're not beautiful and they're ugly insofar as they distort that truth is the thinking.
So, yeah, C.S. Lewis wrote Abolition of Man basically completely in response to a textbook where it tried to teach kids like the statement, this waterfall is beautiful, is an opinion, and it doesn't really matter if you think it's beautiful or not.
And he got really mad at this school textbook for kids, and he wrote a massive book and a hundred-page book in response to it.
Do you think that's like interesting?
I haven't read Abolition of Man.
I had to check that one out.
Do you think that has to do with do you believe in God or not?
Because if you believe in God, I think that's easier to say beauty is objective.
If you don't believe in God, then it doesn't matter.
It definitely has to do with being a theist.
I think.
You know, as like a lot of the Greek philosophers were.
And I did a follow-up poll.
A sunset is beautiful.
Fact or opinion.
80% of people said fact.
20% said opinion.
So interesting.
Well, we're still reading those same textbooks.
You know?
Well, but this is the correct poll result.
So, all right, interesting.
Let us know what you guys think about that.
Vampires hate sunrises.
Ooh.
Did Travis type that?
Somebody just typed that really fast.
My guess is Travis, but I don't know who that is.
So is it objective for a vampire to say that it well, it's still beautiful, even if they hate it.
Vampires may have a perverse idea of beauty.
I mean, vampires are like possessed by a demon or whatever, right?
So their souls are not in line with the Tao is what C.S. Lewis would say.
He used the term Tao.
He does.
Interesting.
He appropriates like all the different, he says all religions point to this truth.
Interesting.
I've heard that argument before.
That's an interesting one, especially in Taoism, because it's the way.
There's passages in the Tao Te Ching that talk about in the way that are very similar.
That's the way it's very similar to Christianity.
Yeah.
But it's a very, I don't support that.
I'm not endorsing that, but it's interesting that there are.
Right.
And I don't think Lewis subscribed to it.
Yeah.
But he was pointing out a universal truth that all these religions.
And I think that's what I found a lot in recently reading through Plato and Aristotle and stuff.
They're not Christian, but when you ponder these things in the most logical, rational way, they do point to a certain truth.
Oh, I know.
I know.
The allegory of the cave is like such a, I'm like, it's like a picture of salvation.
And yeah, but they didn't quite see it.
Yes, yes.
Do you know the allegory of the cave?
No.
I stopped listening.
You stopped listening to us?
Yeah, I did.
Because then you were talking about other stuff I don't know about.
You zoned out.
I zoned out.
Anyway, we talked to Landon Starbuck and how they're coming after your kids and she has a whole campaign against it.
So take a watch.
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And now it's time for another interview on the Babylon Bee Podcast.
Everybody, thank you so much for joining us.
This is the interview show on the Babylon Bee podcast.
We're really blessed to have Landon Starbuck with us today.
This is going to be so much fun.
You are a mom, a former Hollywood star, turned advocate, wants to empower parents to fight back and protect children from abuse, trafficking, and exploitation in all forms, like even like gender-affirming care.
So we're really, really happy to have you on, Landon.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
With me today is also Dan Coates, and he's also the producer of our podcast.
So it's kind of a big deal to talk to, Dan Coates.
That's what I do.
Yeah.
He's kind of a big deal.
Well, thanks for having me.
Thank you, Jarrett.
And thank you, Dan.
I'm a big fan of the Babylon Bee and so happy to be here.
All right.
So your last name is Starbuck.
Were you on Battlestar Galactica?
No.
So my husband, Robbie Starbuck, that's how that happened is I married him.
Oh, okay.
And thus my last name became Starbuck.
Is that a real last name or did he make that up?
So, okay.
You want to know the real story here?
Yes, I do.
He's been using his last name.
His real last name is Starbuck.
His sisters and him all were given these very interesting names, middle names.
So there was like Starshine, Sunlight, you know, there was all these kind of hippie type names.
And so it was Robbie Starbuck.
And he's always gone by that.
He's never gone by the family last name.
So that's what everybody's always known him as since he was 15 years old.
So yeah, that's his real name.
And that's our name.
So you're the founder of the nonprofit Freedom Forever.
Can you tell us a little bit about that?
What's that going on?
What's going on there?
Sure.
Yeah.
So we combat child exploitation in all forms, whether that be trafficking or medical exploitation and what we're seeing with this gender confusion.
The institutional medical exploitation of children is happening with the chemical castrations and the surgeries and all of that.
So we are very involved in combating that a myriad of ways.
But we also address trafficking through our border, all the issues that some of the larger, more well-funded, more well-known organizations that claim to be helping children will not address or talk about.
And so that's really why I started this nonprofit is to cover those gaps because we're fearless about what the truth is and what the needs are and what we have to do to combat it effectively.
Because unfortunately, as much as we all want to rescue children, that doesn't solve the problem.
There's still this grooming that's happening, this never-ending demand and supply of children.
And so until we address those issues, we're not going to see this problem reduced in America.
Wow.
That seems like a really big task that you've taken on.
It seems like you would need really strong and powerful partners to do that with.
Do you have those?
Like, who do you partner with to do this?
Yeah, so we partner with a lot of different people.
So when we organized the March to the border two years ago, we partnered with Turning Point.
I mean, we had was the largest coalition response to the border crisis that anyone has done up to date.
And so we find ways to partner with other value-based organizations fighting with the same strategy.
So, you know, part one is admitting the problem.
If you can't recognize there's a border crisis, that trafficking children is wrong, then we're probably not going to align with these other organizations.
And sadly, many of them are enabling.
So we try to find like-minded individuals and organizations to partner with so we can amplify our messaging.
Now, our nonprofit is volunteer run.
I don't take a salary and nobody else does.
So it's me and other incredible humans lending their expertise and skill set, whatever that may be.
So we come together and we find ways.
So we have like a Project Veritas style investigative journalism arm that we've exposed the transgender pediatric clinic in Nashville.
And now we have legislation that is banning child mutilation in our state.
So we do a lot of really amazing things just because average people that care about this issue come to the table and we find out how we can work together.
That's how you got on my radar was I saw your speech at the rally to end child mutilation in Tennessee.
You were promoting that bill that finally got passed through the House there.
Has that been signed into law yet?
Or are you guys still waiting to see what's going to happen?
Well, it passed the House and Senate.
We're just waiting for our governor to sign it.
We believe he will.
We've been told he will.
So we're just waiting for that to happen, but we anticipate it will.
It seems like we're living in two realities that they're like half of America is looking at this as a problem of gender affirming care for children and transgender surgery for kids of all ages.
Half of America looks at that and goes, oh yeah, we're just affirming what they identify as or we're helping them by giving them these treatments.
And the other half of America is just horrified at it.
How do you bridge that gap?
Because it's just two different realities.
It's two different worlds almost.
Well, I mean, look at what's happened to academia.
I mean, this is how we've been primed to accept these theories, which are, I mean, crackpot theories completely not even backed by fake science.
I mean, they don't even have the fake science to substantiate their crackpot theories.
So what is being done to children is medical experimentation and exploitation.
We're talking about drugs that are being used off-label with no long-term safety studies whatsoever.
And the lie that they use, the emotional manipulation of, you know, would you rather have a dead son or a live daughter is just a manipulation.
Their statistics don't back it up.
It's used with a technique called convenience sampling.
So they're sampling a small population so they get the results that they want so they can perpetuate these lies and narratives that then trickle down to the classroom.
And then parents just, you know, believe this system because this is the education system.
They sell these ideas under inclusivity and education.
And that is why we're here.
The education system, I think, is even more of a problem as far as how this got to this point.
The medical system was just there to capitalize on it.
But the priming, the grooming has been happening in our education spaces.
And that's why we have an entire classroom.
I think it was in this Chicago that was Missouri.
I think it was related to a bill that Holly was working on.
An entire classroom wanted to transition.
I mean, where are all the dead bodies if this is a natural occurrence?
Where are all these dead bodies of children before?
There wasn't even a Google search for this 12 years ago.
Now, who is, you know, obviously somebody is benefiting from this.
You know, something like this, a movement culture where they're exploding kids, like who is, who's benefiting?
Like, at the end of the day, who do you think is behind all this?
You know, is it Klaus Schwab?
I think there's a lot of nefarious interests that benefit because who benefits from a demoralized, destabilized society where children don't even, I mean, they're complete, their identities are dismantled and they're disconnected from their families.
I mean, communists benefit, you know, globalists benefit, activist teachers, ideologues, they all benefit because it's all the same thing.
It's authoritarianism.
And whatever, you know, they individually benefit, but whether it's their ideological push for progressivism, at this point to me, it doesn't even matter.
It just matters that we stop the hemorrhaging.
So that's, that's what I try to focus on is like, how do we get people, average people to that say, I care about this issue.
I want to protect kids to understand that when they send their children back into these environments eight hours a day, it doesn't matter what you teach at home.
You know, you're teaching your kid to be part of a lie and narrative that undermines everything that we stand for.
Wow.
So get the kids out of the public schools is what you would say.
If you're in areas where you can't fight it, I think that I think these battles are worth fighting where we can make a difference.
But I think we have to be real that some areas are just completely dominated by these corrupt people.
And until we take those areas back, we're not going to see that trickle down and have an effect in the classroom.
So basically, what I say is where there's grooming, exploitation is not far behind.
So whether they're grooming sexually with the pornographic, sexually explicit books in the schools, or whether they're doing the grooming, the gender grooming, and keeping secrets from parents, when that's happening, we pull our kids out.
We cannot negotiate with these people for our own children's safety.
And so that's, I think, the big turning point we're waiting for, a parenting revolution where parents really wake up and realize that our kids are not worth that price to pay to fight a system that is hell-bent and well-funded on turning.
And this, because this is not going to end here.
This is part of a transhumanism, transhumanistic movement where now the education system, the future of it, and the dollars have already been invested are going to basically put our kids dependent on AI and on these systems for education where they're digitally nudged, where their behavior is digitally nudged.
So looking at the future, I mean, we can play whack-a-mole and say, oh, we got this pornographic book out or we stopped the gender ideology or we've got rid of critical race theory.
But these people are never going to stop as long as they control the institutions.
So where we can fight to control at the top level, great.
But until that happens, children are suffering.
And I don't think the price is worth it for families to lose their children.
And families are being destroyed by this ideology.
Absolutely.
You know, it's interesting because we're in the homeschool movement.
My wife and I are in the homeschool movement.
She runs a big homeschool program that has like 1,200 students in it.
And we love this idea of pulling people out of the public school system.
We're obviously in California.
And the indoctrination is definitely happening here.
But most people, even when you talk to them, like if I were to sit down with a Christian couple, like from my church, and I were to say, look, this is what's going on.
A lot of people don't still don't believe me.
And it's just a crazy, to me, convincing people that this is going on is part of the goal.
And it's a difficult thing to do sometimes.
But I think we need to get in there and do it.
And then there's sometimes where it's really subversive where you can't tell, like, this is obviously what's happening.
They're being indoctrinated.
Obviously, they're trying to shove this LGBTQAI stuff down people's throats.
What do you do with that?
Like the kind of soft or the middle of the road, like the, because I think it's happening everywhere.
But like, what do you do?
And how do you educate people and tell them how to do this?
Where do they go?
Well, that's, yeah, that's a big piece of it.
Freedomforever.us is our nonprofit website.
But also, you know, following me, Landon Starbuck on Instagram, every single day, I'm exposing, you know, the craziness that's happening.
It's undeniable.
The evidence is here.
We have an abundance of it.
And so we're not responsible for what other people do, you know, and I think that we can lead them to the truth and lovingly present it to them.
But at the end of the day, there's still this resistance.
And I think that we have to bear responsibility for our choices, because I think a lot of, especially people in the conservative movement, they don't really realize their power and the choices that they do have.
And so they won't even make a plan.
And that's what I tell people is like, you know, I understand there's these scenarios where there's, you know, maybe a divorced couple and the dad wants to keep them in the public school and the mom wants to take them out, but she can't because she's working two jobs.
I understand that.
But there can be a plan, right?
Where they're looking to co-ops, look into the other options to fight for our kids.
Until we adopt this warrior mindset, we will not be able to do what needs to be done to protect this next generation of children.
And it goes to many facets.
I mean, the phone, the technology is a huge piece that is grooming our children.
And we're now seeing the results of that.
It's so devastating and sad, but waking up an entire generation of parents to realize like our children are not worth this experiment.
Not medically, not ideologically, and with AI, what they're doing.
We're always talking about that, like with our group.
We're always talking about the danger of the cell phone, connecting your kids to the internet.
Here's a porn machine.
You know what I mean?
Like here, you know, you're giving these kids this access to unfettered information.
It's insane.
So what motivates you though, Landon?
Like, what is it?
Why are you so passionate about this personally?
Well, I think that, you know, I've been in this space for a while and I came into it very naive.
So I left Hollywood as a billboard charting singer-songwriter.
I was knee deep in the industry and I wanted out.
I was depressed.
I didn't want to participate in the sexual quid pro quo system that exists.
But I ended up leaving thinking that it was just Hollywood where child trafficking and exploitation existed.
And the more that I learned and the more that I served in different capacities and whether it's boards of different organizations and helping trafficking and just working in all these different spaces.
And I think that, you know, that was my training was just seeing this from so many different angles.
I was then able to take a bird's eye view of this entire problem and realize that it's the demand that is driving this and what drives the demand is the behaviors and examining our behaviors, educating on them and teaching parents in particular how to take our power back and how to replace these negative behaviors with behaviors that are going to produce more positive outcomes that also are in alignment with our values.
Because what is the point of being a Christian or saying you have conservative values if our actions are diametrically opposed to every single one of them?
Amen.
So I had a question for you, Landon.
Obviously, we all would agree here, like get the phones away from your kids if you can, if you're able, get your kids out of the indoctrination that they're in, get them away from all that.
But what would you say to a teenager who is going through this now?
They've already had the phone.
They've already had the teacher groom them.
They're struggling with all these, what's my identity?
Maybe it's this.
Maybe it's that.
What would you say to those kids that are going through this right now?
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, I speak to a lot of them.
And it's so devastating how broken they are as a result of this.
But I try to speak love and life into them by reminding them that their identity is not in any superficial characteristic, whether it be their skin color or oppression group or any of these things.
And as long as your identity is in those things, you will not have purpose.
You will not have meaning.
You will not even be able to cultivate a sense of joy because you're so oppressed by that particular ideology.
So I try to educate on like what that ideology is and what is what are the outcomes.
Objective reality exists.
And if the outcome of that objective reality is that you mutilate yourself or feel like you constantly have to be in this victim mindset, what is the outcome of that is you're going to be miserable.
And so I try to empower them with control over those choices because we do choose our outcomes.
We do choose what we want to participate in.
And so if we can educate on what behaviors, what thought processes and what those outcomes are, it puts people in a position of power to then say, wait a minute, I do have control over this.
If I know that I spend inordinate amounts of time online viewing the content on Instagram and I look at these statistics that show these poor outcomes and I feel depressed and all that, I'm going to continue feeling that and go on a downward spiral.
But if I invest in myself and true identity, how I want to grow spiritually, how I want to grow as a person, how I want to be of service outside of myself and not in this selfish, you know, love thyself movement of self-worship, you know, there is meaning there, there is purpose.
But the best way is just to live that.
And I'm not perfect, but I try to live that and show that to people.
And I have not had an easy life.
I had ovarian cancer.
I had my entire teenage hood stolen at 16 years old.
So it's not been an easy, you know, I'm coming from a place of I know pain, I know depression.
I know what it's like to crawl my way out of these things.
And I also know the power of God in all of this.
And to not tell people that truth is a disservice.
It's the most unloving, uncompassionate thing we could do is to let them know that that is, you know, not speak that truth of what is available to them if they want it.
Gosh, that's really good.
Yeah.
You sound like a Christian.
Well, good.
That'd be a good thing.
I like that.
I like that about you.
So we recently came across an article that you had written about this group of trans moms, I guess is what they're calling themselves.
This is the serendipity dooda, I guess is the name of the group.
Can you tell us a little bit about that and what is that and what's going on?
So that is the largest group of trans moms of trans so-called trans children that exists.
It's about 36,000 members.
And these moms all have these behavioral commonalities where they're looking, it's almost a pseudo-religion where they're looking for a sense of purpose and belonging and affirming one another and their children.
And it was, this was a probably four-month investigative, you know, journey that I went on with some other moms that actually, you know, were the whistleblowers.
They came forward and said, hey, we were kicked out of this group because of, you know, our political beliefs or because our kid was gay and they had a trans agenda.
So it's almost like in some situations, they're transing the gay away.
These children don't even have developed identities.
And these moms are trying to trans their children as young as two because their child wears an ELSA dress or likes the color pink or purple.
And they're fast tracking them to the social transitioning.
They're comparing notes on how to get insurance to cover hormones and even the surgeries.
And that is really the culmination of all that is that they post pictures of their children on surgery day.
And these are kids as young as 12, we know are getting top surgery in America.
Girls are.
And it's when you see this and you just kind of live in this for a little bit, that's what really gave me the idea of like, is this, does this fit the description of munchhausen by proxy?
Is this a modern form of that?
Because all of the markers seem to be consistent with that.
And I know that some of these moms are just lost and they're not, you know, coming from a sinister place of I want to destroy my child's life.
But I think that that narcissism and that mental component is really driving this because they're getting something for themselves out of it.
They're getting that affirmation.
Wow.
So that's terrible.
What it sounds like these women are just collectively kind of, you know, they have a psychosis that they're all sharing together.
It's just awful.
What is the best way that we can protect our kids?
Like what you're passionate about.
What's the best way that we can protect our kids?
The best way is an inside out approach.
So when I started, you know, looking at my own life and taking inventory of my own life and looking at the mistakes that I've made as a parent and what I've allowed in my home, instead of just blaming, you know, Hollywood or outside forces, I looked at myself and said, well, I allowed Hollywood in my home.
Hollywood didn't come in my home and bust down the door.
I allowed it.
I allowed Disney in my home.
I allowed these things that were grooming my children into certain ideas.
And coming from the industry, I don't even know if, you know, some people aren't aware, but I mean, they even have offices for Planned Parenthood in the industry because they want placements in their shows.
They want ideological nudging to happen for our kids.
So there's a reason where, you know, even in this group that I'm just talking about, they put an ad out from Nickelodeon seeking trans children, young trans children, to be actors in their shows.
There's an agenda here.
And so not only is it looking on the inward out from our homes to the devices, to what our kids have access to, to what they spend their time doing, but where they're being educated, who are the influential adults in their life?
Do we know who their teachers are?
What they believe, like what they believe and what they think their roles are.
What about our doctors?
Do they think that they're entitled to a private one-on-one with our child when we drop them off?
Taking an entire inventory of everything that touches our child and examining if we want to co-sign on that.
That is an incredibly powerful thing to do.
It's a scary thing to do because when you realize how much power you have, we realize we have more power than not to stop the exploitation of all children because it doesn't just end with our influence and our kids.
It's the environments that we're subjecting them to, sorry, subjecting them into with others as well.
And so that is the biggest thing because every single survivor I've ever spoken with who is a survivor of CSA, child sexual abuse, or child trafficking, I asked you, did you have a dad in the home?
Most of them did not, or their dads were abusing them.
I said, did you have an intact family?
Was there a loving family?
Did you have a hobby?
No.
None of these things that are pillars of what makes a family strong and united were there.
And so if that's part of the problem of risk factors, then we need to make sure that that's the priority to counter that.
So we're not just responding to all the negative stuff and crap like Disney, but we're like replacing it with things that unite us as a family and bring us closer as a family.
So those are things that we have the power to do individually.
It's not just looking for the signs or the man in the van or looking for the children that are obviously displaying signs of being trafficked, bruises and malnutrition, all those things.
I mean, yes, we want to help those people, but it's the responsibility of our own children and it begins with us.
Yeah, it's the job of the parents.
Step one, be a parent, be a parent.
And you know what?
And don't give your kids over when they're in their teenage years either.
And that's the thing.
That's one of the things that we've noticed too in our group is people just kind of want to give the education of their children and the raising of their children to other people when they reach a certain age.
Like, oh, it's just their time to spread their wings.
There was a book called Hold Onto Your Kids that we read.
It's a really powerful book, but it was just about the idea that the teenage years are actually the prime time to lean into your kids, to have that relationship, have a deep emotional connection with your kids, do things with your kids, make your family the prime thing, have strong family.
And that does make healthy people.
Like strong family makes healthy people.
And so we need to make sure that we encourage people to do that.
We're big fans of that.
So I love that.
100%.
Sounds easier said than done, but when you break it down and you really look at all of those aspects, you know, I think that it's hard to admit, you know, a lot of our families are broken in that aspect and that we have subcontracted out parenting to the school institution or to a doctor, whoever it is.
And yes, exactly.
Yes, absolutely.
I'm not giving that youth pastor my kids.
I don't trust them as far as I could throw them.
I'm just kidding.
I'm totally kidding.
I love my youth pastor.
All right, Landon.
Well, this has been great.
We do ask every guest on the podcast the same 10 questions.
The 10 questions.
First question is, have you met Carmen?
No.
Are you a Calvinist or an Arminian?
A communist?
A Calvinist or an Arminian.
Oh, a Calvinist?
Yeah.
I'll pass on that one.
Yes.
Okay.
That's okay.
It just means, do you believe in free will or do you believe in predestination or fatalism?
I definitely believe in free will.
Okay.
I definitely believe in it.
There we go.
Yes.
Okay.
Next question.
You can add one book to the Bible.
What is it?
It could be just a good book you want everyone to read.
That could be a book.
Which we will then add to the Bible.
Yeah, we will then.
Our Bible is very large.
We've had a lot of answers to this.
Oh, geez.
I mean, anything Thomas Sowell.
Oh, wow.
She's based.
Dang, dude.
Hardcore.
That's hardcore.
Yeah, but I like, I mean, I really enjoy books on brain science and trauma and things like that and how we can rewire our brains.
So I like Dr. Joe Dispenza a lot.
Like breaking the habit of being yourself was a really great tool.
Yeah.
So that would be, that one was a very life-changing one for me.
So I would add that, just the power that God gives us, like to use our minds to change our entire reality.
All right.
Next question.
Cigars or pipes?
Neither.
Okay.
That's what I figured.
Who do you hang out with?
Any three people living or dead?
And you can't pick Jesus.
Okay.
Three people.
Well, I have three kids and a husband.
So that would be.
You'd have to kick one of them.
You'd have to kick one of them out.
Yeah.
Who's not making?
Who gets kicked off?
Who are the three favorites?
Exactly.
Oh, man.
Yeah, that would be, I would just, I would just, gosh, that's, that's a tough one.
Yeah.
It'd be my kids and my husband.
I can't pick one.
That's cool.
Well, that's a good point.
Yeah, that's fine.
That's a good one.
That's a good.
I like it when people say that.
All right.
So whiskey or beer?
I'm not really much of a drinker, but whiskey, for sure.
All right.
I'm in Tennessee.
You are?
Got it.
You got to pick whiskey if you're in Tennessee.
Yeah, bourbon.
Yeah.
Like, there you go.
All right, cool.
What would be the first thing you do as president?
Oh, man.
Term limits, I guess, would be the first thing, maybe.
That's a good answer.
Terminal.
I don't know.
I mean, I just, how do you get rid of like all of the there's so many things I could go on a laundry list?
Definitely.
Uh, no, big packs, big corporation donors and lobbyists.
I mean, there's so many things to completely deconstruct the way things are running, but I don't know if I'd be able to do that by executive order.
So that's a tough one.
You could always try.
All right.
So have you ever punched anybody or been punched?
And is there a story there?
Uh, well, um, not to be Debbie Doubter, but I was in an abusive relationship.
So I definitely know what that is like.
Um, but I've never had to punch anybody.
I've wanted to punch people.
Um, I was close to punching someone the other day when I was giving testimony that was screaming at me.
So that was that was not fun.
I'm glad that didn't happen that way.
I ended up being escorted by the troopers out of the hearing room for my own safety.
So that was probably a good thing that that happened.
Wow.
That sounds like a really intense story, actually.
Oh my goodness.
I mean, it's the it was the rainbow tolerant loving crew.
You know, that's that's the reality of what happens.
The pink, the pink army.
Yes.
That's right.
Uh, so next question: uh, one concert, any band in history, who do you go see?
Oh my gosh, I feel so boring.
You guys are like making me like, all I do is work and hang out with my kids and feed my chickens.
Oh, yeah, that's so bad.
Like, what is what is music?
I, I mean, I, goodness.
Um, have you ever heard music before?
We'll start there.
I mean, we'll start there.
I'm a musician, so I like music, um, but I don't know who my favorite artist is.
Yeah, man, I feel like so lame saying that, but I don't have a favorite artist.
That's okay.
I really don't have a favorite artist either.
It really depends on the time of day.
So, yeah, that's yeah.
Uh, last question, and we ask this of everybody.
We are a Christian website.
Some people are surprised to hear that sometimes.
Uh, but we ask, would you do you accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior?
Absolutely, absolutely.
There's no life without Jesus.
We got it.
I wouldn't even be here without him, and I wouldn't want to live without him.
That's great.
That's great.
I knew you were Christian.
That's cool.
This podcast is just a long con to get to that question.
Oh, my God.
Landon Starbuck, thank you so much for what you do.
Thank you for being on the podcast.
If there's any way that we can help you, just reach out to us, okay?
Thank you so much.
I appreciate you guys being willing to talk about this stuff.
I know it's not super lighthearted and fun, but definitely parents want to get involved.
They can go to our website, freedomforever.us and volunteer.
That would be amazing.
Keep up the good work.
Seriously, we know that you guys are on the front lines.
You're on the front lines of something that we're very passionate about as well.
And God's truth is really important.
It needs to go out.
People need to know that there's a reality and that God intentionally made us the way He made us and He has a purpose for each of us.
So I love that.
All right.
Absolutely.
Thank you both for having me on.
Have a great day.
See you later.
God bless you.
That was an interesting watch.
That was great.
Thank you, Landon Starbuck.
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There's no period, but There should be a comma here.
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Is mother effer one word or hyphenated?
It should be one word.
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