Kyle and Adam are joined by Chandler Juliet to discuss The Babylon Bee's recent ban from Twitter. We also take a look at several suspicious accounts that haven't been banned. Weird. We have another edition of Babylon Bee Radio courtesy of Austin Robinson. He serves up the fakest news you can get. And how could you forget Weakly News with Adam Yenser? You're so insensitive. Dr. Fazale Rana of Reasons To Believe visits The Bee to discuss transhumanism and how it may, or may not, relate to Locutus of Borg. But no one thinks to ask him about Robocop. Sad. Dr. Rana's collected works are available on Amazon, including Humans 2.0: Scientific, Philosophical, and Theological Perspectives on Transhumanism and his most recent work, Fit for a Purpose: Does the Anthropic Principle Include Biochemistry? This episode is also brought to you by My Patriot Supply Also brought to you by… Allegiance Gold Private Internet Access Donors Trust In the Subscriber Lounge™ Kyle is confronted with the fact he's probably possessed by a demon (darn!) and, as always, we review a classic Bee article and Subscriber Headlines of the Week! And don't forget to stick around for the rest of Dr. Fazale's interview!
The Babylon Bee has been banned from Twitter for honoring Rachel Levine with a prestigious Man of the Year award.
We are prepared to upgrade the honor to Man of the Century, however.
Supreme Court nominee Katanji Brown Jackson doesn't know what a woman is, which would explain why she thinks Leah Thomas is one.
Kid Rock says President Trump once asked him for advice.
Honestly, I'd be more surprised if Trump hadn't asked Kid Rock for advice.
Hillary Clinton has COVID.
Much like her, COVID just won't go away.
A woman was hospitalized for holding in her farts.
She obviously didn't know she could have made a fortune selling them in jars.
All this and moron.
Moron.
The B weekly.
Yes, so Twitter has suspended the Babylon Bee until we agreed to delete our post that Twitter claims violates its standard against hateful conduct.
And I myself was also suspended because I made a joke that if it was just a very lighthearted concentration camp joke.
Yeah, you just brought up the genocide of the Uyghurs.
I said if we at the Babylon Bee were to just throw a bunch of Uyghurs in concentration camps, we'd be allowed back on Twitter.
Do you think they got like, do you think they're self-aware enough to get that joke or do they think you were somehow advocating concentration camps like they didn't even read the tweet?
Because it is hypocritical that they've suspended our account for stating this fact.
But China's doing all this horrible stuff and they let them on there.
I think it's possible that like an algorithm flagged my tweet.
Yeah, that's what I was just going to say.
I think there's like a few code words like anyone who's currently trans, any like anyone, anything about concentration camps, anything like about China, COVID is like flagged.
Well, my tweet does like say the phrase like throw Uyghurs in concentration camps.
So I could see if an algorithm was like, oh, that's violence, you know, a robot is like.
But it's weird that they let the people on there who are actually doing that.
It's very strange.
But I appealed it.
I appealed it and I said, let me explain the joke to you.
It's that you would let us back on if we threw a few thousand Uyghurs in concentration camps.
Hope this helps.
And they didn't respond.
So I'm still off of Twitter for now, but I feel great.
The sun is shining.
There's rainbows in the sky.
You know, it's just one of those to be grateful for.
Their suspension of the account got that story and that tweet a lot more attention than it would have otherwise.
Well, we've also got this Supreme Court nomination hearing going on.
I'm not hearing as much about this.
I listened to a little bit.
This one's not as exciting.
There's no drunken yearbook posts.
It's very sad.
We should dig up something.
Yeah, exactly.
Of course, I'm not hearing much about it because I'm banned from Twitter.
Is that where you got most of your news?
That's where I did.
I just like to see what people are talking about because that's what we need to joke about.
You know, what everyone's talking about.
Yeah, that's true.
Oh, Adam Ford was also banned from Twitter.
I forgot to mention that.
The founder of Babylon Bee was banned.
So they're just going hard.
What did he say?
Was he also banned for correctly saying Rachel Levine is a man?
He basically shared a post, I think, about our tweet or something.
And so we're just saying, you know, all we're saying is a biological reality of a man being a man.
And he got banned.
I think he said like, don't, or maybe that was.
Oh, yeah, it's like, don't retweet.
Yeah, don't retweet this or you'll get suspended.
And then he got suspended.
It's like, way to prove the point.
We're all getting sent to the principal's office.
That's what it is.
But I really do wonder if it's like an employee just like going through flagged things and like, yeah, we're going to ban them.
And oh, it feels like a court market.
But we're slowly tunneling out of Twitter jail behind our Ronald Reagan poster.
Oh, yes.
So we'll see how that works for us.
Find some redemption there.
So yeah.
And then by the way, World War III is happening.
And gas prices are terrible.
I saw the average price in LA now is $6 a gallon.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
It surprised me that it's not higher because I keep seeing $6 everywhere and it's cheaper out here than it is over in LA.
It is.
All right.
Well, why don't we do our banger of the week?
Banger of the week.
NCAA swimming champ caught in possession of performance-enhancing testicles.
You just wanted to say testicles, didn't you?
Yeah.
I always love saying testicles.
So, yeah, male to female.
102,000 shampoo.
Yeah, a lot of nights.
We used to get millions, though.
We used to get millions on our bangers, though.
Oh.
So Facebook really cracks down on these.
Male to female transgender Leah Thomas won the NCAA National Championship in Women's Swimming.
I'm sorry.
It's just so ridiculous on the face.
We've reached like the most absurd part of the world.
I can't even talk about that.
Yeah, we can't even agree on what a woman is.
This is how far we've regressed in the conversation.
I love the picture of the testicles.
No.
Wait, I haven't scrolled down.
I mean, presumably the testicles are in the picture, but Leah Thomas standing there and then the three other ones that are, and even the way it's framed, it's so much taller.
One of these things is not like the others.
We need to do a Sesame Street parody video or something.
Ooh, I love that idea.
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Bomb of the week.
As we always do.
As we always every week.
I guess something will be hits.
Well, even if they were all hits, there would be one that's a little less of a hit.
Zelensky makes common sense plea to start World War III.
And this was the day that Zelensky made that video, you know, appeal, please send us planes.
Yeah.
Attack Russia now.
And I don't actually think this one was that much of a bomb because what we've started doing sometimes is we'll share them as images on Facebook and they'll do really well.
But then the link just dies because Facebook doesn't want people sharing Babylon B links and just links in general.
So I think this one did really well as an image and it did really well on Twitter before we got banned.
But the link on Facebook bombed.
But yeah, it's good.
Jonah Goldberg didn't like this one though.
Did you guys see that he shared this one?
Did he get mad about it?
He got mad about it and he's like, this terrible joke just, well, and he was yelling about it.
Do you think it's because, I don't know if it's why it bombed, but people's perspective on it, because they don't know what perspective that headline's taking, whether it's pro-Zelensky, whether it's pro-Putin, whether it's a warmongering headline or not.
It's possible that the division over what the U.S. should do in this situation.
It's definitely a divisive topic on the right, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, because we get a lot of conservatives that get mad.
It's like, well, why are you against, you know, if you say something like this, it's like, well, why are you against Ukraine?
Why do you like Putin?
Yeah, right.
Yeah, and it's early on.
You know, I remember when I, well, I was out of town.
I was in Hawaii when all the Russia-Ukraine stuff started happening.
And I was just like, uh, it's too early to know.
Like, you're safe in Hawaii.
I was, no, I felt very safe.
I was attacked.
I'm not far from this.
Yeah.
Hawaii never gets attacked during World Wars.
So you're okay.
I remember feeling like, I remember just seeing a lot of people not knowing like what, you know, because it only takes about a week for the right and the left to decide their stance on an issue.
And if you think this, then you're this.
And if you don't think that, then you're that.
So it was too early.
And I'm like, wait, I don't want to like be researching this right now when in Hawaii.
So I'm just going to come back to this later.
Hawaii does always get attacked also.
When you look at that Venn diagram, when you look at that Venn diagram of where all the nuclear missiles could hit, it's all Hawaii as well.
It's Hawaii all the way down.
Oh, man.
Oh, God.
Yeah, I always wait to see what Ben Shapiro thinks about something before you decide to go.
Yeah, publicly disclose your opinion.
That's right.
I know.
All right.
Well, let's go to B Radio with Austin Robertson.
Factually inaccurate.
Morally correct.
This is Babylon Bee Radio.
Our top story.
The Supreme Court confirmation hearing for Katanji Brown Jackson experienced a delayed start this week after Ms. Jackson had trouble locating the women's room.
According to sources, she informed an attendant that she needed to, quote, unleash the jackal before entering the Senate chamber.
However, she did not return for the start of the hearing, which concerns Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa, who's the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
It is important that these hearings are on time and orderly so that the American people can watch us ask tons of gotcha questions that are mostly irrelevant to the appointment of a Supreme Court justice.
Katanji Jackson was found an hour later, staring at two doors with strange misshapen stick figures on them.
Jackson said she could not interpret the meaning of the symbols because, quote, I'm not an Egyptologist.
The hearing started shortly thereafter once Jackson realized she could use the room with the triangle person.
According to sources not yet thrown into the fiery furnace, the Babylon Bee was taken by Twitter and thrown into a fiery furnace after refusing to worship the massive gold-trimmed pride flag erected by the great Queen Nebuchadnezzar.
They them.
Here's Twitter royal policy intern Juniper, Z-Zerzu.
All of Twitter's users have been informed of the terms and conditions that clearly allow us to throw them in a fiery furnace if they don't agree with our radical gender theories.
In refusing to be an ally and bow down to this gorgeous, courageous, stunning, and brave flag, the Babylon Bee's getting tossed into the fiery furnace.
Toodles.
Reports confirmed that Twitter was pretty wroth and full of fury at the Babylon Bee, and therefore heated the furnace to temperatures far exceeding the industry standard for people burning furnaces.
At publishing time, multiple witnesses report the Babylon Bee standing within the scorching furnace, seemingly unscathed and whipping out a flurry of leftist-owning headlines.
In a related story, Taliban spokesperson Mohammad Nahim Warda has finally been banned from Twitter this week after carelessly sharing a satirical headline from the Babylon Bee.
Well, I just thought the joke was funny.
A man who thinks he is a woman?
Whoever heard of such a thing?
Those Babylon Bee people are so fun and crazy, even though they are infidels who must die a painful death by our hands.
Twitter has said they will not unlock Warda's account until he deletes the hateful, bigoted material.
Once he does, he'll be able to join President Putin, Antifa terrorists, the CCP, and violent pornographers in using Twitter freely.
Warda has since apologized for the irresponsible tweet and has promised to stick to promoting slavery and subjugation of women according to Sharia law in the future.
With diversity, equity, and inclusion steamrolling a path for trans women to dominate women in all aspects of life, especially sports, the nation has come together with hopes that someday a trans woman basketball player will finally make the WNBA watchable.
NBA Commissioner Adam Silver had this to say.
NBA games may soon be endured by more than just the players, family, friends, and sportscasters in need of punishment.
A trans woman may help the league's reputation by being boring, stifled, uninteresting, tedious, slow, lethargic, lifeless, dull, unexciting, impotent, monotonous, or stale, interminable, vapid, wearisome.
What about claims that allowing an obvious male into the WNBA could lead to the erasure of women?
Who?
Longtime basketball fan Mitch Loinburner expressed keen interest in making the WNBA watchable, saying he tried watching a couple of times based on his enjoyment of women's beach volleyball, but admitted it was tough trying to watch a bunch of women jog between baskets without even jumping or doing cool things with the ball.
Sure, if the game had speed, dribbling, high-flying dunks, alley-oops, bounce from downtown, breaking backboard, breaking ankles, normal basketball, stuff like that.
Then I'd watch it.
Loinburner grew even more excited after learning about plans to add cheerleaders to each WNBA team so the TV cameras could have something interesting to focus on whenever the trans woman was not playing.
In a speech this week, Donald Trump hinted strongly that he will run for re-election in 2024.
He then ginned up excitement for his potential campaign by promising that if re-elected, he will turn Dr. Fauci into a piñata.
Dr. Fauci, what a beauty that guy is, huh?
You all don't like him, do you?
No, I didn't think so.
Fauci, not the brightest.
Some might even say he's a loser idiot.
Some are saying that.
We're gonna turn him into a piñata.
A big, beautiful pinata.
Then every American will get to take a nice big swing at it with a stare.
How do you like that?
Polsters reported that support for a second Trump term increased 322%.
Trump then followed that up with a promise to put Mitt Romney in a giant county fair dunk tank and let every American get three throws.
We now go to our live counter of Epstein Island pedophiles that have been arrested so far.
Yeah, nothing.
Not a single arrest.
Well, with all the evidence, that arrest counter should have start ticking any day now.
And we will keep watching.
Now you're up to date on the only news that matters.
Find more fake news you can trust at BabylonB.com.
Until next time, this is Austin Robertson, the voice of the Babylon Bee.
So long.
Oh, that was a great way to look at the news this week through Babylon Bee headlines.
Now we're going to do an even funnier segment with Adam Jenser doing weekly news at Adam Jenser.
Here we go.
It's time for the weekly news with Adam Jenser.
Prince William and Kate visited the Caribbean and went swimming with sharks, which is much better than their uncle Andrew, who visited the Caribbean and went swimming with 14-year-olds.
In an interview with Tucker Carlson, Kid Rock claimed that President Trump once asked him for advice on handling ISIS and North Korea.
And seeing as Trump handled ISIS and North Korea pretty well, maybe Joe Biden should ask Kid Rock for advice.
The Maury Povich show is being canceled after 31 years on the air.
To put that in perspective, this baby who found her daddy in season one is now all grown up and doesn't know which one of these eight men is her baby's daddy.
This is true.
I actually started my career in the entertainment industry interning for Maury Povich.
And now 18 years later, NBC canceled him the same day Twitter canceled us.
The cherry blossoms in Washington, D.C. are blooming a week early this year, which means six more weeks of confirmation hearings.
A Brazilian pop star was hospitalized because she held in her farts around her boyfriend, making it the only problem in the world caused by not Putin.
Police in New York are looking for a driver who hit a pedestrian while doing donuts in the street.
Luckily, police were already on their way when they heard there were donuts.
UFC star Jorge Masvedal got into a fight with fellow UFC star Colby Covington outside of a Miami steakhouse.
Apparently, Jorge had a Colby beef.
A driver in California crashed his Tesla after jumping it over a hill at high speed in Echo Park and becoming airborne.
The driver wasn't attempting a stunt.
He was just trying to clear a huge pile of poop and heroin needles in the room.
And finally, Hillary Clinton has tested positive for still never being president.
That's it for the weekly news.
Come see me at the Funny Farm and Crackpots in Ohio this weekend.
Thank you for that, Adam.
The first three jokes were good.
What are we doing next?
I thought the...
How did I do?
Did I take us out of that segment?
Well, that was great.
I thought the jokes were funny.
I just didn't know what was coming up next.
We're talking more about our suspension now because we got a lot of tweets about this.
Yeah, we just wanted to do a quick rundown of this whole suspension thing.
The bird versus the bee!
So on Sunday evening, we got a notice.
Hi, the Babylon Bee, your account has been locked for violating the Twitter rules, specifically for violating our rules against hateful conduct.
You may not promote violence against, threaten, or harass other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease.
And our offending tweet was the Babylon Bee's man of the year is Rachel Levine.
Which I thought was a nice honor.
We honored Rachel Levine.
Yeah.
She should be thanking us.
So then there's a weird, it says, like, we've temporarily limited some of your account features, but basically it just means that we can't tweet.
So our account is still up, but we can't get in there.
Is the basic deal.
So we clicked the appeal button.
Our appeal was denied.
So I tried to appeal it again.
I didn't know that.
And that's still pending.
But our CEO, Seth, announced that we wouldn't be deleting it.
So that's good.
We all stand by him.
Yeah, I think it's a bold stance.
Obviously, we're sacrificing a lot of Twitter reach.
But you're doing a huge service to women because people everywhere, even some other misguided women are like, no, we need to let the erasure of women just happen naturally.
And I just, I appreciate, I'm thinking you guys.
Well, and it's so strange the way they categorize anything that they disagree with as hate speech, like as if hate's the motivation for any of this.
We didn't advocate violence.
We're saying something that's biologically true.
That's what I'm saying.
And it's a joke, and it's a satire speech.
And you get suspended for it.
And like they have religious affiliation listed in one of the things you can't commit hateful conduct against.
If someone posted something like a certain religious belief wasn't real or was fake or disagreed with it, would they suspend that?
No, definitely.
Because it's just to support this one political ideology.
That is buzzy and trendy right now.
So weird.
So wrong.
It's strange.
So wrong.
Don't cancel us, YouTube.
Yeah, I guess.
They're a little bit more lenient, right?
I wish my Twitter would get suspended so that I had an excuse to not be on Twitter.
I deleted Twitter off of my phone in the beginning of the pandemic.
I was like, if I don't delete my Twitter now, I am going to get myself in trouble because I don't know.
Just going on there and seeing everybody's thoughts.
I'm just like, I don't know.
I just never.
This is not a good place to be during a volatile time.
People always tell me I should be on it as a comedian, and then somebody made a fake account of me one time, so I just made like a real account so I would have it.
But I've never gotten into using Twitter regularly.
It just doesn't appeal to me.
That account was Clean Comedian68.
Yes.
And then you and I won-upped them.
And you won up.
Yeah.
So I got suspended too.
We already talked about this, but I have a tweet.
Maybe they'll let us back into our Babylon Bee Twitter account if we throw a few thousand Uyghurs in a concentration camp.
And then I appealed it saying, so this is a joke.
Let me explain.
The joke is that maybe you'd let us back in Twitter if we threw Uyghurs in concentration camps.
I hope this helps.
And my appeal has been ignored.
Adam Ford was also kicked off.
I also sent an appeal where I said, we will delete this tweet if you can define for us what a woman is.
That's fair enough.
It is also been a question.
That's a question.
They always dodge that question.
For like Twitter Appeals response, we're not biologists.
Yeah, that Katanji Brown man.
We're just a publication.
Tucker Carlson also tweeted about this ban, and his tweet got deleted by Twitter.
And apparently they handled it differently.
They did not make him go in and bow the knee and click delete.
They just deleted his tweet.
And they kept his account up.
What do you think?
So what is that all about?
Determines that.
I have no idea.
Maybe they deleted Twitter just picking their fights.
Like maybe they thought they could handle a Babylon B controversy, but not a big fish like Tucker Carlson.
Tucker Carlson.
I think so.
I mean, there must be, or there's some sort of like legal something in place because he has like a television show and we're just an internet show for now.
For now.
For now.
Watch your words, you know?
Dan was saying that he thinks this is a Babylon B prophecy fulfilled because we did a one Picard suspended from Twitter for saying he sees only four lights.
There are four lights.
Your account has been locked.
Wait, I think it corresponds to this situation.
I don't know that it's prophecy fulfilled.
So can you explain this joke to us, Adams?
Sure.
So there's an episode of Star Trek The Next Generation where Jean-British Picard is taken hostage by the Kardashians, the Cardassians.
Not the Kardashians.
I say Kardashians much more these days than I do Cardassians because it's always in the news.
He's taken hostage by Cardassians, and they interrogate him in this torture chamber kind of, but they pressure him where they show him four lights, and they basically cause him pain unless he says there are five lights.
So it's trying to condition you to just say what they order you to say rather than what's really in front of you.
That's where George Orwell got the idea for 1984.
He stole all his stuff from Star Trek The Next Generation.
So four lights is on the flag keyword for people on Twitter to, anything from 1984 is also gonna be in there because that's definitely not happening right now.
Definitely not.
Definitely not.
So we thought it would be fun to count down the 10 people who still have a Twitter account despite clearly violating the Twitter hateful conduct rules.
So Babylon B is banned, but these people are still on.
Kathy Griffin, who had on Twitter unapologized for her beheaded Trump photo.
Right.
She apologized and said it was wrong.
I get it.
And then when it was trendy to hate on Trump again, she's like, yeah, remember I did this thing where I like cut his head off.
Remember how cool that was?
I'm relevant again.
Remember me?
I exist.
I exist.
She's one of many celebrities, of course, who wished death on Trump and Republicans and are still on there.
She said, I sure did, Effer.
But this is, this quotes a different tweet here.
It says, Kathy Griffin advocates for someone to stab Donald Trump with a syringe full of air.
Air embolisms caused by air getting into the bloodstream can be fatal.
She replied, I sure did.
So she wished to put death on him in multiple ways, and that was okay.
Noted, Twitter.
Noted, noted.
Noted.
Who else we got?
Everyone's favorite, Michael Moore.
Oh, yes.
He posted, somebody helped me with the math.
If it sadly took burning down one police precinct HQ and 22 other buildings to get them to arrest just one of the four cops, how many unoccupied cars is the city going to force the people to torch to get the other three cops running loose behind bars?
I would have suspended him because it's just a confusing math problem.
You missed the best part.
He says, peace.
He said he had Nicolas.
Nicolas?
Nicolas?
Nicolas Maduro.
Naduro.
A brutal dictator accused of using torture tactics ranging from electric shock, genital mutilations, and asphyxiation to kill and maim dissidents.
You handled that sentence very well, Chim.
Thank you.
He does share.
That was a mouthful.
He does share fire memes, though.
He has really dank memes.
Where is his meme?
I don't know.
I click on it.
I mean, it's sweet.
I tried to click on his Twitter account and I'm banned, so I can't.
Oh, no.
Yeah, see, it'll say, like, log in.
Remember, password?
Oh, wait.
Here's another terrible one.
Ryan Johnson, who wrote and directed The Last Jedi.
He committed that atrocity.
Yeah, he's still on there.
Yeah.
Obviously.
official twitter accounts of the spokesman of the islamic emirate of afghanistan zabi hula mujahid and also car yusuf ahmad uh they're from the taliban and they're still the taliban The Taliban is allowed on Twitter, but not Donald Trump or the Babylon B. At this point, it's actually like a fist bump, you know?
It's like this is a sign that we're on the badge of honor.
Thank you.
It's like we're on the right track, you know?
The objective truth must be restored.
Yes.
And it's so clear that their terms of service, which everyone uses to defend them, mean nothing.
They just selectively do this based on who they disagree with.
Yes.
Coordinated.
Louis Farrakhan, leader of the militant black nationalist group, the Nation of Islam.
O.J. Simpson is still on there.
He's joined Twitter.
He joined Twitter on the 25th anniversary of his wife's murder.
Gosh.
And I'm going to say this wrong.
Ayatollah Khameni is the spiritual head of Iran, and he has tweets still up that call for the elimination of Israel.
He says the Zionist regime is a deadly cancerous growth and a detriment to this region.
It will undoubtedly be uprooted and destroyed.
Then the shame will fall on those with the facilities at the service of normalization of relations with this regime.
Also, the long-lasting virus of Zionism will be uprooted.
But we gave Rachel Levine a man of the year award.
He has another tweet on here.
He says, why should and how can Israel be eliminated?
My answer to nine key questions.
He's doing listicles.
Nine reasons we should eliminate Israel.
Vladimir Putin is still on Twitter.
You can invade a country in Europe and still tweet.
I like that all of Chinese spokespeople are still there, like Zhao, Lejean, and various other CCP officials.
He spread conspiracy theories that the coronavirus was created by the U.S. military.
He has also tweeted a doctored propaganda photo of an Australian soldier slitting the throat of an Afghan child, and that tweet is still up.
And of course, the Chinese Communist Party has concentration camps for Uyghur Muslims, as I pointed out in my dank tweet.
And appeal.
Yeah.
Sad.
Sad.
And the final one that we have here is Planned Parenthood kills approximately 354,000 babies per year.
And of course, they discussed the sale of baby parts in the video leaks from 2015.
You know what's crazy about those?
Is they kept saying they were doctored and the videos weren't doctored.
They were just like edited for them.
They were edited the way videos get edited.
And if you talk to people on the left, they still say like, oh, those were things.
Yeah.
You're like, just watch them.
You can see them.
They testified under oath, didn't they?
Like, yeah, we were selling baby parts.
It's wild.
Yeah.
Yeah, we did that.
All right.
Well, enough of that fun stuff about baby murder and stuff.
Let's go to Dr. Fuzz from Reasons to Believe.
What's his full name?
I don't remember.
I'm going to Google it.
Fazali Rana.
Did I get that right?
We just kept calling him Fuzz, so I don't know how his real name is pronounced.
That was cool.
I enjoyed talking to him.
This is awesome.
He's a biochemist and the VP of Research and Apologetics at Reasons to Believe.
So let's chat with him.
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So, we're here talking about transhumanism with, and you call yourself Fuzz?
Is that do we call you Dr. Fuzz or just Fuzz?
You can call me Fuzz.
Just Fuzz.
As the joke goes, call me anything as long as you call me for dinner, right?
I've never heard that joke before.
You really have?
Sounds like a funny one, though.
Is that the whole thing?
That's the joke.
Okay, that's the whole thing.
So, transhumanism, that's not like transgenderism, right?
It's a different thing.
So, go ahead, tell me what that is.
Yeah, yeah, well, you know, what I find is most people have not really heard the term transhumanism, or they conflate it with, you know, transgenderism.
I was ready to get all fired up about transgenderism.
Yeah, we had a whole bunch of pronoun jokes ready, our usual stockpile.
You could still use them, but the idea behind transhumanism is the use of technology to essentially modify our biological makeup as human beings, through gene editing or brain-computer interfaces, that type of thing.
And most people that are transhumanists see this as almost an imperative, that there's our bodies are inherently flawed, that those flaws cause pain and suffering.
And so, if we come in and can use technology to modify our bodies, we can mitigate pain and suffering, maybe work towards creating some type of utopian-type future.
But the grand vision ultimately is to overcome death, right?
And that we could use this technology to create human beings or maybe even post-human species or transhuman species, where we would modify ourselves to such a degree we wouldn't even recognize ourselves as humans.
And by doing that, we could attain a practical immortality.
So, there's a lot of science and technology connected to transhumanism, but at its very core, it really is a religious idea about how do we attain eternal life.
Have you ever heard of C.S. Lewis?
I sure have.
Okay, have you ever read that hideous strength?
No, I haven't.
Because it's about this, pretty much.
The whole thing is that the scientists go back and tap into some ancient magic and then they use all this to like preserve humans as just functioning like heads.
And then they're going to ascend and then enslave the rest of humanity through these heads.
At least I think that's what it's about.
I think he was high when he was writing it or something, but okay, well, you should.
You know, I mean, but your point is a good point because, you know, this idea of using technology to extend our life expectancy is something that, you know, flows out of the Enlightenment, right?
That reason and reason leading to scientific understanding of the world will make us lords and masters, and we would bring everything under our control, including, you know, our own existence as human beings.
That's, you know, what the Enlightenment really was advocating.
And so you see authors exploring this idea.
You know, perhaps the first person to suggest transhumanism was a geneticist by the name of J.B.S. Haldane, who was an atheist and was one of the founders of the discipline of genetics.
And he wrote a book called Deatalis, where he was arguing that through genetic understanding and artificial womb technology, we would be able to produce human beings with desired biological traits.
That would be exactly what society needed.
And this was the idea that JBS, that sorry, that Huxley picked up in Brave New World.
So C.S. Lewis is just continuing that tradition.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
He's a good guy, C.S. Lewis.
You ever see the best of both worlds, parts one and two?
I don't think so.
That's where John Luke Picard got assimilated by the Borg, and then they turn into Lucutis, and then he destroys 65 Federation ships because they took his knowledge.
Yeah.
Kind of like that.
Yes, yeah.
Okay, I'm familiar with it.
Yeah, I did know that.
The title of the episode.
The title of the episode.
I like Star Trek, but not to the point where I know the episode titles.
But with this transhumanism stuff, there is sort of, it's interesting because there's sort of a gray area that it's evolved out of where we all improve our bodies with medicine or hearing aids.
Like over time, where do you see it as sort of becoming something different?
Yeah, well, this is the tricky question, right?
Is that as human beings, we've used technology from the very beginning of our existence, and technology is meant to enhance our capabilities beyond our biological limits.
So we use technology all the time.
And many of the advances that are really giving legitimacy to transhumanism, like gene editing or brain-computer interfaces, are literally going to revolutionize.
Or those moon shoes that let you jump higher.
That's right.
Yeah.
You know, well, I mean, you know, who wouldn't want to jump higher, right?
That's a good point, Adam.
Yeah.
You become a transhuman when you put on shoes from the 80s.
But, you know, but you make light and that's good.
But I mean, the reality is, you know, we look to enhance ourselves all the time.
And in some instances, there's legitimate reasons, right?
In other instances, you know, maybe not so much.
So there's really a fine line between when is this technology being used legitimately and when has it crossed the line?
You know, and for from person to person, what you would be willing to tolerate when it comes to, you know, enhancements, you know, really could vary.
And good people with the same worldview could really disagree.
You know, one of the things that's interesting is we're seeing advances in anti-aging where there's been some studies published where people have actually literally reversed the biological age of test subjects so that they would be two years younger biologically than their chronological age.
Sounds bizarre, but we're at the cusp of having anti-aging technology that, again, fuels the transhumanist agenda.
And as I'm getting older, believe you me, the idea of popping a couple of pills to mitigate some of the pains of getting older is looking very appealing.
And so, you know, there's an appeal there to human enhancements, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like when Catherine Pulaski got that hyperaging disease, so they put her through the transporter and rearranged her atoms to a younger version of herself to heal her Star Trek.
I don't remember the title.
Are you really a true Star Trek fan?
Now, you come at this from a religious perspective.
You work for Reasons to Believe.
What do you do there?
What are your reasons to believe?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, I'm a biochemist by training.
And so I, you know, have been at Reasons to Believe 22 years and look at how advances in the life sciences, particularly in biochemistry, provide evidence for a creator's existence.
And, you know, so I read and, you know, or sorry, write and speak and, you know, do interviews.
That's, you know, part of what I do at Reasons to Believe, really, with the goal of communicating how the latest advances in science, you know, support the Christian worldview.
So you didn't answer the second part of his question.
He said, what are your reasons to believe?
Oh, what are my reasons to believe?
Well, you know, we'll dodge the question, Fuzz.
We're not going to let you get out of this one.
I got tons of reasons to believe.
But, you know, to me, as a biochemist, what I just find mind-blowing is just the impressive sophistication of biochemical systems.
They just have the hallmarks of being designed by an intelligent agent.
And so, for example, this is the type of discovery that just keeps me awake at night as I kind of think through the implications.
But the cell's machinery that manipulates DNA.
And DNA is a molecule that stores information that the cell uses to build itself, to carry out its operations.
And that information is actually digital.
It exists in the form of discrete subunits that are used to build DNA.
And the protein machines that manipulate DNA are literally operating like a Turing machine, which is the theoretical abstract machinery conceived of by Alan Turing that laid the foundation for computer science.
And so literally what you're looking at when the cell replicates DNA or transcribes DNA are computer operations.
And in fact, the similarity is so astounding that Leonard Adelman, who's at the University of Southern California, proposed this idea of building computers from DNA and the proteins that manipulate DNA.
And these computers that they're developing are wet computers.
They're in little tiny test tubes that big, and they're more powerful than the most powerful supercomputer system we've yet to build.
Does my computer get better if I make it wet?
Well, you don't want to probably make your computer wet because it's silicon-based.
But if it's a DNA-based computer, you know.
You can as long as you don't turn it on.
Oh, okay.
I've seen people that hose down their computers and wash them.
They just have to make sure it's completely dry before.
And then you need a big bowl of rice to put it in afterwards.
Yeah, but you may want, you know, your viewers may not want to try that at home.
Try that at home.
Let us know the results in the comments below.
What the caption says, do not try this at home as you say.
Yeah, try this at home.
Are you good at computers?
Can you give us any computer help or advice?
No, I really can't.
I just know that throwing it across the room doesn't fix the problem.
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Speaking of computers, how much do you know about Elon Musk's Neuralink?
I read a lot about like he's working on this like brain chip to like enhance.
Yeah, well, you know, this is, you know, in a sense, part of the whole idea of transhumanism, where Elon Musk envisions this, you know, this brain-computer interface where it can pick up electrical activity in the brain and interpret it and then use that to interface with electronic devices, computers, even, you know, machine hardware.
And so he sees this as the next generation of, you know, user interfaces where we go from voice command to thought command.
And so he's looking to revolutionize, again, the human-machine interface with the technology.
But it also could be used to treat patients that are quadriplegic or paraplegic, where they could control exoskeletons with their thoughts, or it's a way for people that are locked in to communicate.
People have developed basically algorithms that these computer brain interfaces can use to convert thought into texts.
And in fact, you can now with the latest advances convert thought into text about as fast as somebody could type at an iPhone or something like that.
So, you know, it's going to revolutionize medicine.
But Elon Musk is interesting because his ultimate motivation for Neuralink is he's afraid of AI, that he feels that within a decade, the AI is going to advance to the point where it could actually be a real threat to human beings.
And the only way we're going to be able to compete with the AI systems that we create is through this kind of brain-computer interface where we can augment our brain with computer.
That's the only way we'll keep up with them.
Right.
So he is, in effect, become a reluctant transhumanist because he sees this as an imperative to escape AI.
And so again, if you can achieve what Elon Musk envisions, now suddenly, you would be able to control electronic devices,
computer systems, hardware remotely, any place, any location in the world through your thoughts, That you could potentially link people's brains together and form kind of a collaborative with different people.
You could share thoughts, and people talk about having VR experiences that aren't real, but that you could then share this VR experience with your thoughts with other people.
So it really is a bizarre set of ideas, but this is where the science and the technology for some people are leading.
And of course, if you can do that, then it just empowers people who think that we could potentially upload our minds or memories or whatever, you know, into some kind of computer framework and attain like a digital immortality.
And now I notice you have elbow patches.
Yes.
Is that a form of transhuman implant?
This is what you call very bad fashion sense.
Okay.
I like it.
Somebody gave me this jacket several years ago.
And so.
But you wore one.
This is what you chose to come on the podcast.
Yeah, because I have a little bit of green in here.
So this is a green jacket.
So green-green, it matches.
That's why I chose.
Now, you read this book about this.
And in fact, my wife didn't see me when I left the house today wearing this.
I can tell.
So you wrote a book about all this called Humans 2.0, and you've touched on this a little bit, but like, you know, there's obviously positives and negatives to this whole transhumanist thing.
Like you personally, both as a scientist and a Christian, is this like a good thing?
Is it a bad thing?
Is it something we should embrace?
Is it something we should resist?
Right.
Well, you know, to me, the technology that undergirds the transhumanist vision is something that I think as Christians we should embrace.
Because when used well, this technology will, I think, dramatically improve the lives of people that are suffering from, you know, horrible diseases and debilitating injuries.
So the biomedical use is incredible.
There could very well be good, legitimate reasons, you know, to modify our bodies, to enhance our bodies that I don't think would be, you know, to me ultimately problematic.
But my concern with transhumanism is ultimately that, again, it is a religious idea and that people are going to turn to science and technology for their ultimate hope and to develop a sense of purpose and destiny.
That is, science becomes the savior.
And so it becomes a false gospel, in my view.
And, you know, it's a very appealing gospel because we're in a world that's increasingly secular.
We turn to science and technology to solve our problems.
So why not turn to science and technology to solve the ultimate problem, basically our mortality?
And so this is a way to attain a type of eternal life that is, I think, going to be a real competitor to the gospel itself.
And so as Christians, we need to recognize, number one, this technology is coming.
How do we use the technology for good?
How do we engage our culture to prevent the misuse of the technology?
It could be horrifically exploited to do bad things.
But also, how do we recognize what ultimately undergirds this and use this as an opportunity to present the gospel?
I see this as a golden opportunity to share the gospel.
I'm struggling to think of biblical principles or biblical verses that address this because obviously Paul the Apostle didn't write about cyborg eyeball implants.
But what he did write about.
It is an apocryphal book.
Oh, there's so Catholic books.
It's all about cybernetic eyeballs.
But the Apostle Paul did talk about the resurrected body, right?
That we have an earthly body and that we'll eventually, in the resurrection, have a heavenly body.
And so he is touching upon, I think, ideas that are kind of a Christian version of transhumanism.
You could even argue that Christianity presents a type of transhumanism when it comes to the resurrection, and that we are looking to a time where there's no more pain and suffering, right?
Where we will have eternal life, not only immortality, but that we'll be, you know, in the presence of the Lord.
And so, you know, what transhumanism is expressing is the deepest need that every human being has and expresses.
It's just that with transhumanism, the need that's expressed isn't wrong.
It's just the source of fulfilling that need is misplaced in science and technology as opposed to the person of Christ.
But it's a great opportunity when people bring up transhumanism, and it's a fun topic to discuss.
Yeah, it's very interesting.
Right?
And people want to talk about it, and people are familiar with this idea because of science fiction.
But this is a wonderful segue into the big question: really, what is our ultimate hope, purpose, and destiny?
And why is it that we have this desire to connect to the transcendent?
You know, that it, why do we, you know, transhumanists see death as wrong.
Yeah.
Right?
They see the world that we live in is not the way it's supposed to be.
Well, you know, when you come to that conviction and you're living your life because you want to correct those things that you see that are wrong with the world, you're, I think, open to really what the gospel offers.
So we might get like laser cannon arms in heaven, is what you're saying.
You know, that's what I heard.
If that's what you want, you know, put your order in, I guess.
All right.
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This is from someone named me.
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A red angry face.
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Horrible role models, all of you.
I hope you don't raise children.
You turn them into future tyrants and mockers and evil brats.
Brats.
That was the harshest word I could come up with.
You supposed to like escalate, right?
Yes.
I am pissed that the Babylon Bee even exists.
Making fun of people in the Ukraine is the absolute pits.
Wait, did we make fun of people in Ukraine?
This was probably Dan's bomb of the week that she's mad about.
You think it's freedom of speech?
You are wrong.
Me!
You have us all wrong, me.
Kids got it wrong.
Brats.
It's also strange how that side loves banning people from social media platforms.
Like, I'm on the right, and there's people I disagree with.
I'm never a person should be banned from communicating with anyone.
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Agreed.
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They always say, oh, I lost them in a boating accident.
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