Art Bell welcomes WPHTAM’s new Philadelphia affiliate, then dissects Texas UFO reports—five lights in Round Rock, greenish-white objects near Dallas, and a black rectangular craft—with Peter Davenport debunking hoaxes but noting no video evidence. Callers link sightings to May 5th meteor showers, while Bell pivots to conspiracy theories: TWA Flight 800’s disputed crash origins, Federal Reserve’s constitutional gray area, and MTBE’s carcinogenic spread in California wells. A Georgia caller confirms cats devour mice, including skulls, and a San Diego caller speculates nanotech lasers caused Flight 800’s fall. Bell dismisses fission risks from Galileo’s plutonium generators but highlights NASA’s HyperX ram-jet space project. The episode blends paranormal claims with environmental warnings, ending on a mix of fringe theories—Chupacabras as interdimensional "dragons," UFOs at "thought speed"—and a tease for Linda Moulton Howe’s upcoming eco-focused segment. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning as the case may be in whatever exotic time zone you reside in from the Hawaiian and Tahitian Island chains all the way east to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south well into South America, north to the Poland worldwide on the internet.
I have the distinct pleasure and honor, isn't that the way they say it, of welcoming WPHTAM in the nation's fifth largest market, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
And I know that area well, for I once lived in a little town called Media, Pennsylvania, about 12 miles outside of Philly.
And as a matter of fact, Philadelphia was where I got my first ham license, the FCC office in Philadelphia.
I'll never forget that.
Very nervous moment.
My mom drove me into Philadelphia and I took the test.
It's also an area where I acquired my first pinball machine.
Anyway, we are proud to have WPHD in Philadelphia along.
They are, by the way, a very non-trivial radio station.
They're 1210 on the dial and 50,000 watts of clear-channel kaboom.
So they are heard, I don't know, in a circle that seems to be, you know, primary coverage nighttime that goes up to Vermont, New Hampshire, probably out to eastern Ohio, and then down south.
It probably can be heard in North Carolina.
And you get the picture if you draw a circle around Philadelphia, plus the ships at sea, of course.
So welcome, welcome to the program.
And I want to thank Diane Cridland for helping us get on there.
Thank you, Diane.
Hopefully we will not disappoint you.
It's going to be mainly open lines tonight.
And so I suspect we'll open the lines for Philadelphia at some point down the line here a little bit.
But first, there is some breaking news.
And it involves something seen in Texas.
And I guess the calls began coming in to the Seattle UFO Reporting Center.
And something very big has been seen down Texas Way.
So in a moment, we will speak with Peter Davenport.
And if any of you between Austin and Dallas saw whatever in the heck this was, I would like to open my East of the Rockies line for you or any other line you can manage to get through on.
And if everybody else would just hold off a little bit, this is kind of an ongoing tonight kind of thing.
Well, we'll tell you all about it in a moment.
But if whatever it was was seen by yourself, then please call us at 1-800-825-5033.
1-800-825-5033.
I'm going to hear all about it in just one moment.
All right, once again, what I want to do is hold open my East of the Rockies line only for people who have seen the object that you're about to hear described.
This is an ongoing story.
The Seattle UFO reporting center is one of the biggest and busiest in the nation, and the guy who runs it is Peter Davenport.
Not enough yet, but it must have been a dramatic evening over central Texas this night.
We got a call from Round Lake, Texas at about, oh, it was just before 7 o'clock this evening, Seattle time.
A gentleman called and said that his son had just seen something in Round Rock, Texas.
That's just north of Austin, about 30 or 40 miles, according to my map.
And this young fellow got on the line and he described what had happened to him.
He was in the garage of his home, and he walked outside, and his attention apparently was drawn immediately to the night sky close to directly overhead.
Yeah, it was not moving fast at all, but as it got to the northeastern sky, did I say northwest?
I meant to say northeast, if I didn't.
When it got into the northeastern sky, he said it simply winked out.
It disappeared from his sight.
Well, I didn't know what to make of that report until about 15 or 20 minutes later, we got another telephone call from a very bright-sounding young woman up in the Dallas area, specifically in the Flower Mound area, which is a suburb of Dallas.
And now my antennas were out because it was clear that this young gal, as bright as she was and as very eloquent as she was, was emotionally involved with what had just happened to her and a friend of hers.
The two of them were out walking in Flower Mound, Texas, walking their pets, engrossed in deep conversation, she said.
The attention of both of them was drawn to something directly above them.
And she said, never in her life has she seen anything, the likes of it.
She admitted that it was so dramatic a sighting this evening that she and her friend just grabbed onto one another and stood there holding on to each other while they watched this object directly above them drifting again to the northeast.
They are indeed, which is perhaps the wrong analogy for a UFO investigator, but that's the one I'm stuck with.
By this time, I was attuned to what was going on, hoping to get a few more calls, and indeed we did get a third call.
It came in from yet another suburb of Dallas, Lancaster, Texas.
And the gentleman who called is very skilled with regard to astronomy.
I won't go too deeply into his background, but he described essentially the very same object, the very same sighting that had just been described to us by those two young women.
It was going from the Austin area to the northeast.
And the thing that I find really intriguing, and which I think rules out any kind of hoax or mistaken identity or something like that, is the fact that apparently it went from the Round Rock vicinity, again, just 40 miles north of Austin, into Dallas in somewhere between one and five minutes.
That's 200 miles in one to five minutes.
Now, that's a long way for any object to go in that amount of time.
And that's one of the elements of these sightings that seem to militate against some kind of hoax or mistaken identity.
And moreover, there's another observation here.
The first caller, you'll recall, said that the object simply disappeared from sight in the bat of an eye.
And that suggests to me possibly, a possible interpretation of that is that it suddenly accelerated so fast that it just appeared to the human visual system to disappear from sight when in fact it was streaking to the north.
And one of the things I started probing with the second call was just how accurate these people's times were.
Were their clocks accurate?
Is it an electronic watch they have or what?
And we've been able, I think, to get the times, even on a preliminary basis, the times down to within a minute or so.
And that is what makes me feel very comfortable in saying that the object covered not less than 200 miles in not more than five minutes.
Obviously, this did occur now and take calls all night long, but instead of that, why don't I let you give out your number and we'll see if we can put this together.
But now that we are alerted to the incident, what is vastly more helpful to us is if those people who actually saw the object could briefly write down what it was they saw, where they were at the time of the sighting, the time of the sighting to the best of their estimation, and what direction they were looking and where the object went.
That is very helpful if they could mail that to us.
I'm a University of Texas student, and a couple of my friends just came inside my dorm and said that everyone outside in the downtown area just looked up and noticed three bright white lights hovering above 6th Street.
So I just called in and, you know, just to say, this is not dissimilar to what happened over North and South Carolina last night.
We got a call from the National Weather Service, and shortly after that, we took a call from three young people who were sitting in a pickup truck and saw an object go streaking across the sky.
That sighting is complicated by the fact that the 5th of May is the peak of a certain meteor shower, the name of which I've forgotten.
So we don't know what happened there, but the people who saw it reported that it was strobing apparently at a regular pace.
There was a similar sighting up over the San Juan Islands here in the state of Washington in the streets of Juan de Fuca just about a week ago, and it was a dramatic one.
Young couple sitting out on the edge of an island, and they saw a huge object with a stripe of purple light that was shooting out the back of it, almost covered the entire sky.
The fellow who saw it is a craftsman.
He's now building a model of the object and is going to send us a drawing and perhaps a photograph of his model.
Okay, it's I saw it like at about 8 o'clock Central Time, and it was three objects towards northwest, and they were heading towards, I would say, northeast.
Apparently, a number of people in the Lone Mountain area saw a UFO.
Bright green, looked like an inverted mushroom, they said.
And that was just number one.
Then I've got a second facts on it, and they're starting to pour in now.
So, not only in Texas, but in Las Vegas, about 65 miles away from me as well.
What are all these things doing in our skies?
By the way, there's something I want to mention very quickly with regard to the website.
I wonder how many of you remember, I think it was last week we began getting reports.
And then Sunday on Dreamland, we talked about it as well.
Apparitions.
And I received the following email.
I was listening to your program the other night.
Might have been a rerun.
No, it wasn't.
As a matter of fact, we had a man on Captain, the captain, I'm not sure of his name anyway.
He was speaking of the vision of the Virgin Mary on the side of the office building in Clearwater, Florida.
Now, I live a mile away from the site in Clearwater, and I want to set the record straight.
First of all, that vision appeared about two weeks before Thanksgiving last year, but it had been developing over a period of time, probably many months, until it reached a point where it became what is seen today.
I am not religious in any way.
My parents weren't into religion when I was growing up.
I've never read the Bible, nor do I intend to.
Well, I would never say never about that.
But I have to say, the image on the side of that building is amazing.
And I have to agree.
And I want to thank whoever it was.
It was a lady down in Florida who sent me an extremely clear rendition of this gigantic building in Clearwater.
And it appears to be, you know, who am I to say, right?
And I'm not going to say, but it appears to be what could be the Virgin Mary on the side of this building.
I mean, we're not talking about a little thing.
We're talking about something the size of an entire multi-story building.
And so that photograph is now on my website.
If you want to see it, go take a look yourself.
I mean, you tell me what you think.
They are prepared to apparently call this some sort of historic site now.
I swear this is true.
And I don't know what they're going to do with the building, but it's going to be declared some sort of historic site in Clearwater, Florida.
Go take a look for yourself.
We've got the photograph up there.
My web address is www.artbell.com, www.artbell.com.
Nothing like seeing for yourself.
Let me cover a few things.
It looks as though tobacco has won one.
A jury in Jacksonville, Florida has handed a major courtroom victory to a leading cigarette maker.
The six-person panel on Monday found R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company not to be liable in the lung cancer death of a lifelong smoker.
And her name was Gene Connor.
And the family, of course, sued.
And I'm a smoker.
You know, I admit that.
I'm not happy about it, but I am a smoker.
I can read the warning on the side of the package.
I know what I'm into, and I guess they're going to make the...
I wonder how they make the warning stronger anyway.
Maybe they'll make the cigarette companies put a big skull and crossbones on the side or something.
Authorities in Texas say police shot and killed one of the two fleeing members of the armed separatist group Monday, the Republic of Texas offshoot group.
Two of them took off when the rest gave up.
One of them is now dead, hunted down by a pack of bloodhounds.
Police helicopters all over the place.
These two guys take it off.
They got one of them.
In Oklahoma, or I should say in the trial going on in Denver, Timothy McVeigh's younger sister decided to testify against him and has done so.
Jennifer McVeigh portrayed her brother as a man who wanted to take action against a tyrannical government depriving Americans of their rights.
So there you have it.
With regard to the TWA 800 report, as you know, the FBI apparently is going to leave the investigation or is now itself beginning to conclude that Flight 800 was down because of massive mechanical failure.
And indeed, I've got an Associated Press article here which says flaws found in jetliner pumps.
Ta-da!
This is from Norm in San Francisco, and it would validate what our remote viewer Ed Dames said.
And so it looks like Ed Dames hit this one right on the noggin.
Although, depending on what you think about Flight 800, here's another facts.
Actually, email art.
I'll believe our government's failure assessment when they ground 747s.
Assuming the plane did incur some sort of catastrophic mechanical failure, what are we then to infer?
Sure, they tend to explode in mid-flight, but otherwise, they're a pretty safe plane.
Take it easy, Marty.
Ed Dames, on the other hand, with regard to the A-10, was apparently wrong since it has been located in, as you know, Colorado, although I sure haven't heard much about that.
And the pilot, of course, dead, so he had that part and the location wrong.
Pilot being dead correctly, and the location he thought, Arizona, wrong.
Although you recall, he said only eight out of ten.
Hello, Art.
I hope it's going to be one of those open line nights when anything goes.
This is from Steve in Bakersfield.
Yes, you get your wish, Steve.
If so, I would like to suggest a topic of technology shock.
It is my opinion that our society is headed in the direction of an overdose of technology.
I work in an environment which brings me into contact with a lot of senior citizens.
It's just an observation, but it seems as though many of them have reached a point now where they simply cannot absorb these new technologically based concepts.
So are we all going to be victims of this?
I don't know.
It's a good question.
And I've got a lot more here, but what I'm going to do is what we do generally, and that is I'm going to open the lines.
Now, we had Richard Hoagland here last night, a repeat of the Friday night, Saturday morning broadcast, answering what NASA had to say on Thursday, Friday.
So we've been pretty guest-heavy for a while, and I thought I would just sort of let it drift tonight and see where it goes.
Beginning next hour, we will open the lines for our newest affiliate in Philadelphia.
they cannot completely identify the metal there was no entry of any sort that they could prove through the and the general the doctors and i couldn't get it all You have to bear with me.
All right, well, that's just like the fellow I had on last night.
Thank you.
We do a show on Sunday called Dreamland.
And this fellow delivered sailing ships for a living, and he took one from Tampa to New York, and he kept a meticulous, and I mean meticulous log.
And he would record times you would hear shortwave stations, and he was missing three days, I mean three days, just flat gone on a sailing trip from Tampa to New York.
What do you suppose might have occurred?
Oh, by the way, this afternoon, CNN reported a, you know, those little factoid things they have.
CNN reported the following, that 58% of all men report having had sex with a woman they actively disliked.
58% of men report having had sex with a woman they actively dislike.
Now, I will not answer this, but maybe you would like to.
What does this say about most underlined most men?
It is a majority.
58% of men in America report having had sex with a woman they actively dislike.
I was coming back from Santa Barbara this evening from a Chieftains concert, and I saw out over kind of way out into the east three lights kind of grouped together.
The first reason is to study communications in the HF range, as you pointed out.
The second reason is to map underground bunkers and tunnels.
And this one worries people because in order for that radiation to bounce off the ionosphere and hit the ground in sufficient amounts to map anything, it's got to pass through everything above ground, like biologicals, like you and me.
And so a lot of people are rather concerned about that.
Well, even if you assume that what they say is correct and we were to reach a balanced budget in five years, what they don't tell you is we have a $5 trillion debt.
And if they manage to reach a balanced budget in five years, that would simply mean at that point they had stopped adding to the debt.
So when they sit there and they say thank you, they've reached some sort of agreement.
It's ludicrous to even listen to it and imagine that it means anything real.
They have not, will not, in five years, in my opinion, have reduced the budget to zero.
And even if magically they did, that is not going to change what lies ahead because of the size of the debt, the $5 trillion debt.
Now, if interest rates go up, there is no way on God's green earth that we're going to be able to afford to pay the amount of interest that we're going to owe on that $5 trillion debt.
As long as interest rates remain low and things keep going along okay, it's going to be all right.
But if interest rates should rise, even several points, we are in sudden, big, deep doo-doo.
Well, anyway, it was really interesting, and I just wanted to know if there was if you were going to have him on again, because I couldn't get all the information.
You'd have to be Superman to have absorbed all of that.
So, yeah, we'll have him on again.
Thank you very much.
He gave it to us in a very staccato, quick fashion.
It's all about nano, something called nanotechnology, and it is literally machines, little teeny machines that you cannot see, that eventually will be capable of manipulating things at a molecular level.
Now, what does that mean?
It means that, well, it means eventually we'll have replicators.
In other words, kind of like in Star Trek, where you order up food, and it doesn't have to be grown on a farm.
No animal has to be slaughtered.
You take a kind of a molecular soup.
These little machines go to work at the molecular level, and they actually create something for you.
Food or a telephone, or it really doesn't matter, because these machines would be able to replicate anything in any manner you can imagine.
So there would be, well, it would be a very, very different world.
And all of that is going on right now.
One other thing he said that was particularly intriguing in that program was that the way things are going on the internet right now, he expects shortly for, in effect, life forms to be born within the net itself.
Actual, sentient life forms.
And that's where we're headed, he believes, with the net.
unidentified
Absolutely fascinating stuff.
And yes, we will have him back.
The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
More Somewhere in Time coming up.
Art Bell,
Somewhere in Time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 5th of May, 1997.
It's open lines tonight, and there is a very unusual photograph on my website.
It was reported prior, well, toward the end of the week, and then on Dreamland Sunday, an apparition of the Virgin Mary covering an entire building in Clearwater, Florida.
One of those things you wouldn't believe unless you see.
Well, if you want to see it, we've got that photograph.
It's on my website now.
But I mentioned it last hour, and now I can't get into my own website.
So good luck.
It's www.artbell.com.
And one other thing, beginning this hour, I am going to hold open my lines for our newest affiliate.
We've got a new one tonight.
Big one, too.
It is WPHTAM.
They were at one time WCAU in Philadelphia, the nation's fifth market, 1210 on the AM dial, 50,000 watts.
So my East of the Rockies line for about an hour or so gets devoted to those of you listening to WPHT.
If that's you, call us at 1-800-825-5033.
There have been a lot of people awaiting our arrival in Philadelphia.
And so here we are, 1-800-825-5033.
Here we are with 35 radio stations, something like that, 355.
And I still get nervous when a big new one comes online.
So what can I say?
If you hear a little bit of nervousness in my voice, it's because I once lived near Philadelphia.
I know how big that city is.
I know how big this radio station is.
It's one of the ones I dreamed of being on when I was a child.
And here I am on it.
Weird.
Worrisome.
And I'll go back to normal as soon as I stop thinking about it.
Hope you understand.
Repeating one little factoid that I had at the beginning of last hour.
58%, according to CNN, according to CNN, 58% of men report having had sex with a woman they actively disliked.
And when I asked my wife what she thought that meant about men in general, she made a very, very disparaging remark that had something to do with a tree trunk.
And this follow-up, Art of the 58% that have sex with women they don't like, how many are loyal to their wives?
I have no idea.
And I'm not sure that I want to know.
But I would imagine, based on the conclusions that one would have to come to from this first CNN factoid, that the figure would be very disparaging indeed.
The question you always want to ask when you have an earthquake like this is whether it is a precursor to a larger quake or whether you then begin having aftershocks indicating that was the main event.
However, I have always, I don't want to get into a big discussion about the Fed because we'll go in circles, but people are aghast at the fact that the Fed is not federal.
And constitutionally, they have a right to be.
But try and imagine if the people in Washington who we elected who are doing the spending, Congress, right?
They're the ones who appropriate money and they spend money, right?
If they were also in charge of printing money.
Now, bad as the Fed may be, or good as it may be, depending on your point of view, the fact that the people who spend the money cannot print the money, in my view, is better than not.
By the way, some questions for you to ponder.
If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?
Instead of talking to your plants, should you yell at them?
My moment of panic is usually when it's right at the very worst, and I'm ready.
You know, you're sitting there trying to make up your mind whether to get out or not.
That's right.
To run or not.
And I used to do a show on the island of Okinawa where we would have frequent earthquakes and sometimes very big earthquakes.
And we had a radio station there.
We had a microphone, an old, the broadcast people will know, an old RCA ribbon microphone.
And it was held right in front of the announcer by three wires that would go all the way up to the ceiling in a tripod kind of arrangement.
And one day when I was on the air, we had an earthquake.
I tell you, it was so bad, Cindy, that microphone went forward and hit the wall and came back toward me, and I had to duck or I would have lost all my teeth.
And that's how bad it was.
And I went down to the floor and just sat there, and it was getting bigger and bigger and bigger and kept rolling and kept rolling.
Things started to fall off all over the place, scared the heck out of me.
Well, we were sleeping in the motel when we heard this sound like a riot going on.
There were people yelling and screaming and beating on drums.
Oh, my God, we're going to get killed.
They were doing was that they, every year they do this festival and they chase the chubacabra off of Bibini Island onto Little Bibini, which is separated from Bimini Island just by a little channel there.
And it's a ritual they do it every year.
They chase the Chuba Cabra off of the main island in Bibini up to the little island.
He's talking about Graham, Mount Graham, where the Vatican has the, I guess I would say, controlling interest is the right way to put it, in an observatory.
And everybody's wondering why the Vatican would want an observatory.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
I was listening to your program, but you know what?
There's a mountaintop, and I'm not sure that's the one, but Shorty McLean tried to build a, wanted to build a nice house on top of the mountain, and she had all kinds of trouble trying to get a variant, you know, to build a mountain on the mountaintop.
Somehow, through all the environmental regulation and prohibition that there was at Mount Graham, somehow the Vatican managed with political muscle and oomph, and you could imagine the Vatican is very powerful.
They managed to go zipping by all of those environmental regulations and build an observatory on Mount Graham.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Yeah, Art.
He was just talking about the Vatican.
It'd be interesting to see what they had to say about some of those holes in the ground.
But anyway, he was down in Bolivia when Shea was taken in custody by the Bolivian Army.
Just kind of an interesting thing that he mentioned and didn't go into too much, but apparently Shea, from the time he was a boy, a young man, he was asthmatic.
Well, there's a lot to be said for that point of view.
I appreciate your call.
And she's really right because when my cat chases a mouse, and he's found a couple for me, the only thing he does is like he chases it and then he lays on it to keep it in one place.
And it finally wiggles out and runs and he runs and lays down on it again.
Next time you get Richard Hoagland on, since Hailbop appears to be in multiple pieces, could you have him check and see if both our Mars missions are still heading to Mars?
Well, look, we're trying to hold this East of the Rockies line open for people listening to Philadelphia, our newest affiliate in Philadelphia.
Some of them are probably going, huh?
It's a long story, folks.
Hailbop and the companion story, which I'm not going to burden everybody with by retelling right now, despite the freshness of the folks in Philadelphia.
You will learn as time goes on.
WPHTAM, 1210 a.m. in Philadelphia.
It's a big new one, so we're going to be holding the East of the Rockies line open for a while for them.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hello, Art.
Hi.
His name's Brian.
I'm calling you from Michigan.
Yes, sir.
And I just wanted you to know what I go through to get to you every night.
I'll tell you they must have some kind of pattern then because the pattern, you know, they have what's called a pattern book.
And it's very old.
I don't think you can get them anymore.
My boss has one.
And we looked up the pattern for Philadelphia.
And it showed a very nice circle which seemed to cut through Vermont and New Hampshire and to eastern Ohio and then down across the top third of North Carolina and then of course out to sea.
Apparently, with a good radio, why that is an understated pattern.
I've been listening to you for about three years, and this is the first time I've ever wanted to call you because I just couldn't resist talking about mouse food.
Maybe something landed out between Las Vegas and in the Barstow area.
Shades of Mars attacks.
I broadcast from a little town called Perrump, Nevada.
And you may recall, if you have not yet seen it, it soon will be available in video stores, if not yet, Mars Attacks.
Of course, attacked my little town, Perrump, Nevada.
Very small town here.
I mean, not very small.
When I first moved here, we were about 7,000.
I think we're about 20,000 now.
But in the beginning of Mars attacks, when they came down, they wiped out actually a bunch of people out in the desert, some bleachers, waiting for the Martians to land, and they totally wiped them out, you may recall.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
I'm down here in Cookville, Tennessee.
Name is Ed.
Got you on 1210, loud and clear, like a local station.
I don't know how you define freedom, but to me, freedom is the ability to seek information.
Remember the old Soviet Union?
Remember the old iron block?
There you were not free to seek information.
Here you are.
As a matter of fact, if anything, your freedom is abridged by too much information.
And it's really not a bridge, in a sense.
So your complaint, I reject your complaint, sir.
We have, if anything, too much information, and it's very difficult to sift through and pick out the truth from the wheat from the chaff and all that kind of baloney.
That's the hard part about living in America.
Not that you don't hear the truth, but that you don't know it when you hear it.
Because there is so much information out there.
So I reject that.
I am nobody's slave.
I'm not under anybody's control, and I know a lot of people, and even I joke about the CIA and all the rest of that.
But nobody controls what I'm doing.
Nobody controls what I'm saying.
I sit here and say what I want to say every night, and there is no limit on the news.
You know me, we'll put just about anything on the air.
A couple things that you had on your program here not too long ago with that guy that was on about the he was way over my head as far as scientists go, but he said something about do we know we're in the world as such.
Wait, are you talking about the nanotechnology program?
unidentified
Yeah.
And he... Charles Haussmann.
That's him.
And it showed the world and showed the confrontation of a nuclear war and it showed it going up in smoke and all of a sudden it drew back and it was a cloud of smoke coming out of a cop's coat standing on the beat.
And it was really amazing that he happened to hit that fact.
One other thing I called about was the 800 flight that went down.
People have talked about laser beams, space shots, missiles.
I'm not sure we've missed anything.
And the one explanation people seem totally unprepared to accept is that of an accident.
They do happen.
And, you know, I'm not saying that it was an accident because I don't know.
However, after exhaustively reconstructing that aircraft, there is no indication of metal bends that are inward or outward, indicating that anything, any object, would have passed through it.
Now, I'm not saying there are not conspiracies, and I'm not saying that thing might not have been shot down or brought down in some way that we'll never know about.
I'm just saying that outwardly, I'm beginning to move closer to accepting what apparently even the FBI, which doggedly stayed on the case, trying to prove that it was some sort of criminal act, is now beginning to move away from.
So, I'm not settled on it, but I'm beginning to accept the fact that it might have been an accident.
What is indicated by the factoid that 58% of males admit to having sex with a woman they actively dislike?
Right down to it.
When you consider that the sex drive/slash appetite is controlled by testosterone in both sexes, and that an average woman has only a fraction as much testosterone as a man, it means that most men crave sex enough, especially when deprived, that sometimes standards be damned.
Much like a voraciously hungry or thirsty person would eat or drink what other, perhaps more satiated people would refuse to get near.
In other words, he's saying the answer is hormones.
I guess.
Hi, Art.
Your cat, and we were talking about mouse-flavored cat food.
Don't ask me why.
Your cat food would be a grand test for nanotechnology.
Think about it.
Tastes like salmon, looks like a mouse, runs around the water dish at dinner time, and best of all, no tails to pick up.
Thanks, Will.
And this, Art, regarding cats and eating mice, not true.
My cat catches and plays with mice and generally eats them too.
Mainly the heads, although I can't figure that one out.
Cats mostly, most certainly do eat rodents or parts thereof.
Okay, so if that's true then, why not mouse-flavored cat food?
And continuing on that topic, another facts, Art, here are some other cat food flavors.
They don't make, but you might wonder why.
Bug, bug-flavored cat food, houseplant, especially the expensive ones, yarn or other strings, newspaper, and human ankle.
Yeah, human-ankle-flavored cat food.
That's from Ron in Birmingham, Alabama.
in a moment back to the telephone lines by the way tomorrow night for the first couple of hours a child of philadelphia linda moulton how is going to be here and uh...
Okay, well, what I've gathered from looking on the internet and reading and also listening to the comments of your listeners, everyone seems to be of opinion that this is something relatively new.
But while HARP itself is new, these type of devices have been used.
However, there has never been one that will approach the magnitude of HAARP when it's really fired up.
Not even close.
Well, they're talking about 100 billion watts concentrated by an array designed to begin as a broad beam and end up when it hits the ionosphere as a very narrow spot, literally burning a hole in it.
Well, one of the things that's been done for many years in communications has been to artificially raise the MUF or the maximum frequency that the ionosphere will return to Earth.
And one of the things that people in the secure communications business that I used to work in have tried to do is try to limit who can hear your signal.
And one of the things that anyone who knows about VHF communications knows that those are typically line of sight.
But one of the things that's been done is to locally heat the ionosphere and use VHF signals on the artificially enhanced ionosphere to refract these signals over the horizon.
Yeah, you're going to be getting ahead of a lot of people in what they understand out there.
Look, I fully understand what you're saying, and it is interesting research.
However, when you talk about a billion watts or more, I'm sorry, 100 billion watts, and you talk about a secondary goal of HAARP, which is to map underground tunnels and bunkers, then you've got to imagine enough radiation in a relatively small area returning to Earth to penetrate the ground.
Now, that is a fairly serious amount of radiation, and wherever it is, that it comes back to Earth.
It must first pass through whatever is above Earth.
And that is what people are concerned about, and I don't minimize that.
I just feel that some of the things, I can't get into the specific parameters of some of the systems, but while this is the most powerful, there's been some systems in use that are very close to approaching, not in use by the United States, but by other countries that have been in use for horizon radar purposes.
Oh, yes, I know the woodpecker, the Russian woodpecker.
I appreciate the call, sir, but again, you're not grasping the difference.
In those cases, these were Signals that arrived at the ionosphere broadly.
And even if they tried to heat it, their efforts generally went for naught.
But now we have developed a kind of a reverse thing where it's a broad signal when transmitted from the earth.
And where it hits the ionosphere is going to be like a spot beam.
I'm not sure whether everybody is following me on this or not, but there is some reason for concern.
Look, when there's new technology, people get concerned.
When they exploded the first atomic bomb, there were a lot of scientists who thought that it might actually ignite in a chain reaction the atmosphere of the earth.
Think about that.
A lot of them thought that.
And they went ahead anyway.
Now think about that a little bit.
They went ahead anyway.
They might have ignited the atmosphere of the earth in an actual nuclear chain reaction.
But they went ahead and tried it anyway.
Now, how well are you going to sleep at night knowing that?
I'm here in Tampa, Florida, and I am listening to you on 1210.
No.
Yes, sir, I am.
And the best part of it was when you were talking by the Virgin Mary over in Clearwater, I was right at the next station, Amico Station, dropping a little gas.
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And I heard you there on 570.
Yes.
And then I went to 1210, and I picked up another radio station, 1110.
I think that came out of Carolinas, if not mistaken.
Listen, while I'm thinking about it, WBT and Charlotte just sent in our ratings.
And after just one, what's called one book at WBT and Charlotte, for example, all persons 35 plus WBT went from wherever they were to a 17.2 share, number one.
Number one.
And so I thought I would report that to you.
Actually, I'm trying to keep you in touch with how things are going.
The ratings, let me see.
Let me look at some of these.
They're coming in, and I told you I would keep you informed.
KHVH in Honolulu is now the number one AM radio station in my time slot.
Let me keep going.
Bakersfield, California, KERN.
All persons 12 plus, a 16 share.
Number one, way out, number one.
Or, let's see, Sacramento, California just came in, KSTE, adults 25 to 54, a 10.6 share, number 1.
Phoenix, KFYI, and we're talking about my show in every case.
I just don't want to take a lot of time with this.
Phoenix, KFYI, all persons 12 plus, a 13.6 share.
We are number one.
Richmond, Virginia.
Let's see.
Now, all the way up in just one book to number two with a 14.2 share at WRVA in Richmond.
I could keep going.
Let's see.
Milwaukee, WTMJ.
All persons 25 to 54, a 16.7 share.
Good Lord.
Rank, of course, number one.
And on and on and on it goes.
WTVN in see where is this?
Columbus, I think.
Is that right?
Columbus?
We took them from number one To, in some cases, you know, this is an amazing statistic.
They sent this in the last book, males 25 to 34, they had no listeners.
Now they have a 32.1 share in part of a book.
32.1.
That's absolutely incredible.
Of course, Los Angeles, a 13.9 share, 12 plus.
San Francisco, number one, 25 to 54 in my time slot.
Number one, number one, number one, and so forth and so on.
KOB and Albuquerque, thank you very much.
Persons 12 plus and or 25 to 54, number one, and so forth and so on.
I'll stop there for now, but I did promise you I would kind of update you as we went, and you can see how things are going.
Part of my early life was in a place called Media, Pennsylvania, outside Philadelphia.
So I used to listen to WCAU, and that's one of the reasons I've got a case of the Heebee GBs tonight, because I guess, you know, that was one of those heroic radio stations of your childhood, and now here I am on it.
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Hey, you know, if I'm not mistaken, isn't that transmitter in New Jersey, in South Jersey, Moorestown, the 1210?
How do I feel about Gary Adams winning a seat in Parliament?
I think that I think the British are not going to accept this very well.
I think that eventually it's going to eventually there'll be peace.
I hope there'll be peace.
I don't know what else to say other than that.
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What do you think?
I don't know.
I think it seems like sort of a good idea, but you never know how they're going to react or whether I just want to see everything, everybody stop shooting each other and blowing up and stuff.
I'm scared to death of this whole militia thing in this country.
I'm scared that it's going to lead finally to America becoming kind of like Belfast, where you're afraid to walk down the street for fear you might get shot or blown up or whatever, just because there's sort of a cycle of violence that begins, and it's been going on since Waco.
And one of these days, a spark is going to happen, and there's going to begin a cycle we can't stop.
And that's kind of what happened in Belfast.
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Yeah, well, I hope everything comes in over there, and I hope it calms down over here, too.
And I want to say that on behalf of maligned women everywhere, that I really would like to personally thank all those men who answered that poll that gave us the 58% factoid.
And, you know, I wish that it goes along with my comment about the environment and how when we're starting new industries, I wish that we would think about the environment at the very beginning, like space.
It goes along with that.
We should really ask ourselves, what is the benefit of this technology?
Because, you know, like the internet, there's all kinds of information out there.
You've got to learn how to, I think the answer is that you've got to learn how to manage the technology capability that you have.
If you go to the internet, you incessantly visit chat rooms and read the unending garbage that is up there, it is, after a while, in control of you.
If, on the other hand, you are selective about its use and use it as an information resource, as one would use a library, then you are its master as opposed to the other way around.
But there is a pretty good argument or discussion, I think, to be had about the value of technology and whether it really is helping our lives right now or it's more of a negative.
And I'm really not sure what the answer is because a lot of people are so far buried into it.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
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Hi, Art.
Hello.
East of the Rockies, this is Jeff from Dover, Delaware.
Well, it is an amazing thing to me that so many people who have called tonight, listening now, to 1210, have previously been listening to us at a great distance somewhere else, and boom, boom, all of a sudden there we are.
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And it's like the signal, especially from 890 Chicago.
That's the one I usually tune into normally, anyway.
Rush Limbaugh is a great guy, but we have been replacing him and beating him in almost every market across the entire country.
But, you know, he's in reruns at this time of night.
And why would you want to listen to what happened yesterday when you can listen to what's going on today?
And at any rate, we're not even in competition with Rush.
He does an entirely different thing than we do.
So it's really, it's not a competitive thing.
Not with Rush.
There are a few other late-night talk shows, but I think actually we are the largest live overnight show in America.
Isn't that amazing?
See, these are the things that I'd rather not think about, except when people get me thinking about them, because it actually starts to make me nervous, and I don't want to be nervous.
This little CNN factoid did not specify whether these were married men, husbands, or single men or anything else.
It simply said, at one time or another in their life, 58% of all men admit that they made love to a woman they actively disliked.
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Well, anyway, the other thing I have to tell you, after I listen to you tell 4 in the morning, go to sleep for a while, then I go out in the world, I feel like a stranger in a strange land.
Well, that's exactly what I wrote about in a book called The Quickening.
Now, you can't get my book.
The first printing just sold out, man.
It was gone in two weeks.
And I'm sorry about that.
I will let you know when you can get it.
Today is, what, the sixth?
Probably in about a week.
I'm waiting to hear from my publisher, something like that.
But it is simply unavailable right now.
Sold out, way sold out.
Now, the first book I've got is about to go into the fourth printing, and they've got a few left.
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If you would like a copy of the first book I wrote, which is about talk radio and about me, it's sort of autobiographical and with a cutesy title called The Heart of Talk.
They have a few of those left.
A few of those left.
This is Premier Networks.
That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
Somewhere in Time with Art Bell continues, courtesy of Premier Networks.
Once again, Art Bell, and we are celebrating the acquisition of a WPHT AM.
Actually, acquisition means we've acquired them.
We haven't acquired them.
They own themselves.
They have sort of just begun to carry the show.
So it's better said that way, I think.
You know what, though?
It just occurred to me that I've heard from just about every geographic area in the eastern third of the United States listening to WPHT, except somebody from Philadelphia.
So, for the next 25 minutes, and then I'll free up all the lines, I promise.
For the next 25 minutes, I want to hear from Philadelphia.
Not just people listening, because it's now obvious that probably, I actually, I'm going to say in the eastern half of the U.S., everybody hears it.
So, I want to now hear from somebody actually in Philadelphia.
So let me restrict the line to that.
Back to the phones we go.
And east of the Rockies, you're on the air.
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Good morning.
Hello, this is Jay from Austin, Texas.
Hi, Jay.
I'm surprised I was listening to you on the other thing from the delay there.
I believe that we are in a meteor shower, but what was described earlier tonight that went between Austin and Dallas did not sound like a meteor shower.
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Yeah, this thing that I saw was kind of like it was like four little lights in a row, and they were all equally spaced, and they weren't going very fast like a meteor would go.
Well, you saw apparently what a lot of people saw, my friend.
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Very interesting.
Well, another thought I had was your little mouse cat food thing is that you're People who wouldn't wouldn't particularly want to get it for their cats because their cats would be bringing it up and leaving it on their doorstep and everything instead of eating it.
And did you know they are building, understand, five big plants, like gas plants, to make this MTBE because there's people in the government that want it to go national in all the states.
There's a lot of that going on all over the country right now.
A lot of wells are being closed because of carcinogenic things are finding in them.
Our rivers and streams, and it's not all downside, by the way, some have been cleaned up.
It can be done.
But unfortunately, it's more uncommon than it is common.
And there are a lot of places now where you cannot go swimming because if you have a cut or any little entrance opportunity for the things that are swimming around in our water, you could get deathly ill.
I'm a little bit younger than most of you listeners, probably, but I want to let you know that out here we do have a group of us that like listening.
I was just calling because the other night I heard you talking about what people thought about the quickening, as you call it, or I heard you talk about the environment tonight.
I just want to say, like, I was listening to, I think it's 89.5 here.
I don't know what it would be called anywhere else, but they were talking about the most contaminated square mile on earth somewhere in Wyoming.
It was basically an old chemical weapons plant.
And the thing that freaked me out was the name of it.
And the government had the name of it, and it was super fun.
But I think that there is a race on and that it's being lost in terms of those who counterreact in that way.
And more and more people are becoming immersed in and lost in technology, from television, even to what I do here, radio, the internet, cellular capability, and on and on and on I could go.
And so I think that I think it's a race, and I think that Mother Earth is losing it right now.
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Well, the one thing that I wanted to mention to you was about a sister planet, Jupiter.
You remember the Galileo probe that was sent a year or so ago to rendezvous?
And it's going to take an occasional look at Europa.
We talked quite a bit about that last week, as a matter of fact.
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Well, what I wanted to ask and see if you can shoot this down or if it has any credence at all, but there were two plutonium electrical generators on board.
That's correct.
There are about 40 some pounds of plutonium on each.
That is correct.
And, you know, Jupiter is a huge planet that's just a little bit smaller than a brown dwarf star.
Yeah, that's what Arthur C. Clarke remembered, 2001.
Remember that?
Something wonderful.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
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Yes, it's the Italian stallion from the mighty 1190 K. KX Portland, yes, sir.
Yeah, I wanted to give you the Italian stallion's analogy on the Quakening.
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Yes.
This is just one concept.
I remember 20, I'm about 36 years old, and about 27 years ago, I used to go skateboarding with all the teenagers and kids and stuff.
And we used to go downhills and everything.
And we were lucky if we'd dodge a bump or make it down the hill, all right.
But now, when I see teenage kids, they're more or less taking their skateboards and jumping seven-feet walls.
And I've literally sat back and watched kids break their legs or crack their skulls open, and now they just want to batter themselves and break their necks.
So that's just one concept that how things are accelerating.
Wanted to ask if any of your listeners might be aware of any technology aware, I mean, combining cellular telephones and TDDs, if you're familiar with those, or what were formerly known as TTYs for the hearing-impaired users.
I know it's a far-fetched combination, but if anybody knows the combination available to put into a vehicle these days, I'd appreciate some input on that.
Now, this is something that I deal with quite a bit.
It's one of those things that I have to put up with, and I deal with in my own certain way.
But that night, I noticed there were quite a few callers that just seemed very, very, I want to say cynical towards people that have a battle with suicidal thoughts.
And I didn't hear you, or maybe I missed it.
I didn't think I heard you stand up on behalf of those who have legitimate reasons for those thoughts.
And if you want to take your own life, what I said then and now is that the government has no business telling you or trying to control what you do with your own life.
If you want to make a stupid decision, then you ought to be able to make it.
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But one of the key issues in the entire thing that I have discovered in dealing with this is that although there are many people who will say, go get help, go get counseling, for those that have been in that position and have tried to go get counseling, it isn't as existent as a lot of people believe.
Having thoughts of suicide, and the lines don't talk to people who just have thoughts.
They want to know about people who are about to do it.
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Right.
That seems to be the abundance of the helplines that I had found through my experience, especially one of the most recent circumstances being that episode up in Rancho, Santa Fe.
But the thing, in fact, it came up on your show during one of the nights thereafter was the fact that sometimes episodes of that nature might make other people feel like doing that themselves.
Personally, what I felt was a sense of failure, having tried it before and failed.
And then these people came along.
Now, I'm not advocating this as you are.
I would never advocate that for anyone else.
It's a personal turmoil that I have to deal with.
But there was a great sense of failure in not being able to, I guess, to achieve it when I first tried it.
So you really are opting for life, and that's most people.
Opt for life.
You know, I mean, you get a short enough shot at it as it is.
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Right.
But when people call in and they're telling you, you know, these people, they're sick, they were really negative about those of us who deal with that inner turmoil.
And I just wanted to let people know that for the people such as me, I can't speak for everybody, but I'm sure that there are some like me that would love to be able to have some assistance, some help, somewhere down the road.
And it's a drag when you hear, dial this 800 number, this suicide line.
And you call them up.
Well, are you ready to kill yourself tonight, sir?
You know, probably what they sense about you is what I sensed about you.
And that is that you're not suicidal.
You're just thinking about it.
And that makes you no different than anybody else.
If you think most people, maybe everybody, hasn't at least considered it, thought about it, had the thought cross their mind, not necessarily dwelling on it, but thought about it.
I think everybody has.
And they probably put you in that category.
And they sense about you what I just did, and that is that you're not really suicidal.
So maybe that is the solution to your problem.
That you yourself conclude what is obvious to me and to apparently the people you've talked to, and that is that you are not suicidal.
When I was growing up, and you were growing up at the same time as I was, I'm about your age, and we had other things to do rather than me on the streets and gangs.
Yeah, just my view is I hear you, I think about 50% of your program is Irregular and 50% is non-UFO, non-scientific stuff, or science fiction, I should say.
NASA, they just had a press release a couple months ago about it, the new rocket-less space vehicles that they're going to start testing, I think, in 1999.
They have something on the web about it, but I don't know if it was Mr. Hoagland or somebody who mentioned that, you know, when they do...
I don't have the specifics in front of me, but it was something with well, now see, it would confused me because it said something about ram air or ram jet technology.
But then they said they were space vehicles, so okay.
I think that what you're referring to is an engine that even in the upper recesses of the atmosphere is capable of blasting itself along.
It's not exactly a rocket, and it's not exactly a jet.
I'm not an expert in the field, but it does operate in the upper reaches of the atmosphere and then may actually be able to leave the atmosphere and go to yet another mode of propulsion.
Art, I saw you on Strange Universe, I guess, three or four nights ago, and I think it's wonderful that you're on this earth at this time with me and with the others here.
I also want to tell you, Art, that I think the best way that we can not or would keep ourselves from buying into the fear about all the changes inside of the quickening that you were aware of.
Yes.
Sir, is if we just respond to each instant from the highest part of our being.
And maybe then we can just take all the changes and know that we will be unconditionally just fine.
And I alternate between thinking that what has been set in motion can be slowed or can be stopped and the other darker side of the coin, which tells me that we have already passed, in effect, the point of no return.
I don't know those things.
I am not a prophet.
I am not a social scientist, except as I observe from my little outpost here.
I don't know those things, so I don't make those predictions.
I just sort of total up what's going on right now.
I wish I knew those answers.
If I did, maybe I would be instead of in front of a microphone, you know, a pulpit somewhere or something.
Now, listen, at the beginning of the program tomorrow night, Linda Molten Howe, and she will be talking about a whole bunch of these environmental things that we have discussed here.
So look for that.
She's normally on Dreamland.
Rare is the appearance on Coast.
But tomorrow night, for the first couple of hours, a very unusual treat, Linda Moltenhow.
That's it for tonight, wherever you are in this great cosmos.