He calls it a control system, though. Yeah. Which is sort of like, I asked Diana, I was like, how is that different from God? Because he's sort of a control system that is his view is that there's a control system that's evolving human consciousness and it will manifest different things or in relation to the humans over time. And so he looks at the apparition, the Maria or St. Mary apparitions in Spain and the airships of the late 19th century where people saw these things that looked like Zeppelins, even though they hadn't been invented yet. All of these things, he says, his view is they're sort of being sort of produced in some relationship as well with our culture.

But no, the main thing is that I've become known for advocating for this idea that UFOs and the aliens are actually our time-traveling future human descendants. I wouldn't even say as opposed to extraterrestrials because I do think that's a component too.