And that's a really good way of understanding what the devil is. The devil is adversarial, because that makes the devil a really bad weather event. It makes the devil all these kind of adversarial things as well, and untamed.

You have to understand that if you're this semi-literate Catholic woman, and by semi-literate, probably illiterate, the devil is the lord of the earth. The devil is set by God to rule the earth. Yes, you aren't supposed to worship the devil, but because the devil exists in your Catholic frame and is literally the Lord of the earth, the devil offers Jesus the whole world. And he's set by God to rule this earth.

The devil can enter your dreams whether you're doing magic or not.