Here in Rochester, claim they were serving 2,000 to 3,000 meals a day to kids. But prosecutors say the group stole 4.3 million from the federal government.

Speculated this could imply that up to $120 billion of potential waste, fraud, or abuse in California's nonprofit sector. Even that is presented as a rough upper bound estimate, not a measured fact. So there's some potential waste, fraud, and abuse that may be as high as $120 billion a year.