I think he often conflates Muslims with Islamists and there's a big fucking difference. And one of the, if like I have a lot of friends in the Middle East and places like the UAE, Saudi Arabia, they all hate Hamas. They all hate Islamists because they're a direct threat to them. And I think Coleman really brought that out in the conversation as well, which is a lot of the motivation for these Islamist movements is an extreme version of Islam that is fundamentally about creating a caliphate and destroying the infidel.