Francis Foster and Konstantin Kisin critique the UK’s selective enforcement of "non-crime hate incidents," where inflammatory tweets (e.g., Graham Linehan) spark arrests while violent calls (Zara Sultana, Ricky Jones) go unpunished. They expose social media’s role in amplifying outrage—like Extinction Rebellion’s paid protests—and question the risks of AI relationships, from self-harm encouragement to potential blackmail. Rogan contrasts modern disconnection with purpose-driven activities like bow hunting and debates Neanderthal traits, including their advanced toolmaking and possible night vision. The trio explores crop circles’ precision, Ukraine’s drone warfare, and Middle East tensions, questioning Netanyahu’s delayed October 7th response and speculating on false flags. Ultimately, they argue that rigid ideologies—whether political or religious—can distort reality, while genuine frameworks (like faith or skill mastery) offer resilience, warning of the dangers when extremism replaces nuance. [Automatically generated summary]
It's social media and it's there's a there's a bunch of factors, but the problem is now that the genie's out of the bottle, they know how easy we are to manipulate.
And I don't think people are learning.
They're TikToking all day long and they're just like getting blasted with all this negativity and strife and global conflict and Colombian assassinations.
That's what I get.
A lot of these assassinations in like cafes.
Someone pulls up on a scooter, bang, bang, and then they drive off and everybody screams.
I've seen a hundred and thousand of those.
I've seen, you know, it's like everybody's like completely ramped up.
And at the same time, you've got people in the UK getting arrested for Facebook posts about immigration.
So I think part of the problem is that people, when they go on these posts, they're not looking to learn something, as you just said.
What they actually want is an emotional reaction.
They want to feel something.
If you live in a society where it's comparatively the easiest it's ever been and your life is boring because all you do is get up, you go to work, you have food, you commute, you come back.
It's essentially a treadmill where you don't feel any of the ups and downs of emotion.
Then what way would you get that?
But by going online and seeing something fucking awful happening, you feel terror, you feel sadness, you feel rage.
Well, it's also just that's what you're going to watch.
And so you're getting sucked into it just because of the algorithm, which is crazy.
No one ever considered algorithms before.
We considered access to information, but we didn't consider that information we curated to hold your attention span.
And all these factors have not been studied well.
There's been a few guys like Jonathan Haidt writing about it, a few scholars that are really attempting to say, hey, what's the sociological and what is the long-term consequences of this happening also for children?
These are the first children in human history growing up on social media.
Never been done before.
We don't know what that's like.
Like what is it going to change in terms of empathy, in terms of hostility, acceptance of violence, which is a completely brand new thing on the left.
Acceptance and celebration of gun violence.
Never happened before when I was a kid.
It never existed.
No one from the left ever celebrated anybody getting assassinated.
Well, what's really interesting is she put a clip on her social media where she goes, and she set up this new far-left political party.
And she says, we've got to fight fascists in parliament.
We've got to fight them in the ballot box.
And you're going, all right, look, I don't like the rhetoric.
And then she says something even more interesting.
And we've got to fight them in the streets.
Now, you think to yourself, right, if you classify Nigel Farage and the people who vote reform in the UK, which may well win the general election, which may well be the biggest political party and already represents a sizable portion of the UK, you're effectively advocating violence.
And it's incitement to violence as far as I'm concerned.
But because she's on the far left, she's deemed to be a good person, that's somehow okay.
Whereas if Nigel said something like that along those lines, you know that people would be like, this is a fascist, this is evil, this is disgusting, you shouldn't say that.
Because one of the things that we know now very clearly because of all these YouTube videos, all these people that go to these protests and start interviewing folks, some of these people are clearly not well.
And this is the thing they've attached themselves to.
This is their tribe.
This is whether it's No Kings or fuck ICE or whatever, whatever the tribe is, this is their tribe now.
And they're schizophrenic or they're, you know, fill in the blank, whatever the mental illness is.
And you're weaponizing them by calling these people who just differ with you politically or more conservative.
You're calling these people the enemy of humanity.
Oh, yeah, you've done some great interviews at those protests.
Yeah, it's just when they're confronted with a person who's actually asking them questions, it's remarkable how few people know why they're there.
They don't know.
Like, when you get into specifics, this guy did this thing today where he was talking with people at the No Kings Pro.
to send it to you, Jamie, because it's, you know, I mean, I understand why they responded the way they did, but it is absolutely fascinating to watch because it just shows you what, let It just shows you how much these things that people get involved in aren't bait.
Socialist intifada combines two distinct ideas, the Arabic concept of intifada, intifada, and the political ideology of socialism.
So the meaning of intifada means shaking off or uprising in Arabic and historically refers to popular resistance movements, particularly the Palestinian uprising against Israel occupation in 1987 and 2000.
It denotes collective rebellion, often led by the oppressed, using acts of protest, civil disobedience, and sometimes violence to resist injustice and occupation.
Socialist, socialist intifada, refers to the framing of the uprising not merely as a national liberation struggle, but as a class-based social revolution.
Marxists and socialist movements view such an intifada as a mass movement of workers and a youth using class struggle methods.
Send in the tsunami right now.
Send in the tsunami and make people live off fish that they have to catch for just a month and all this shit goes away.
Just give me something.
Give me a small asteroid.
Give me something.
Give me something.
Give me an alien invasion.
Just give me something to fucking shake these kids by the collar and go, shut the fuck up.
Just shut the fuck up and live your life.
You're not living your life.
And you're fucking up everybody else's lives.
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You know, rep Paulina Luna, you know, you had her on recently, fascinating.
Just her telling me about the Book of Enoch and alien stuff.
That's why I had her on.
She believes in angels.
She had like a diagram of angels that she put up on her Twitter.
I'm like, this lady went to us.
This might be fun.
But she posted something on her Twitter yesterday that shows all the people that donated to the No Kings protests and the number of corporations that donated and how much money is involved in it.
It's bananas.
If she's accurate, if what she's saying is true, it's like, this is crazy.
Especially if you've got a lot of money and you're organizing and you get on Facebook and get involved in them groups and you use the bots and all the bots.
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Like, this is important that we show up in mass and let him know he's not a king.
You know what I find really fascinating from a psychological perspective is the use of chance in that you go to these protests, you watch, and it's all about chanting.
And what's so powerful is the chance rhyme and it almost becomes musical and the crowd just gets whipped up in the fervor of the chance.
But you look at what the chance actually mean and most of the times they're utterly nonsensical.
Like there was one which was, we won't be free until Palestine is free.
And you go, what does that actually mean?
What does that actually, are you not free?
I think this is a, I mean, not in the UK, but I mean here in the US, you're pretty free.
Do you know what I mean?
And the fact that you then, but they would argue that.
But then the moment you drill down, you actually go to them like, what does that mean?
Like socialist intifada.
The reality is they just can't, they can't explain because it's a chance.
The problem is if you're organizing a protest and paying people to protest, and if there's documentation that the metadata from the cell phones are the same from protest to protest, and that they're traveling on buses that's paid for with tax dollars, like, hold on.
What are you really doing?
What are you really doing?
This isn't really an organic protest.
You funneled money through an NGO and now you're hiring people to show up and wave signs to give the illusion.
Look, this is what they did during the Kamala Harris campaign.
They filled up stadiums with people coming to see her.
And the same people went from stadium to stadium.
It became a job.
It became a job, but it gave the illusion.
So that's deception.
That's deception.
And that should not be legal.
That should not be a legal thing to do.
You're engaging in propaganda.
You know, you're openly manipulating people's perspective.
You know, the thing that we have in this country, I don't know if you have it in this country as much, is just the way the policing is biased.
The way that they will arrest Graham Linehan for three relatively innocuous tweets, one of them was a joke, and they will arrest him the moment he lands on British soil, five police officers.
You get other people saying heinous things.
Or you get, like I said, the example, Zara Sultana saying, you know, we're going to fight them in the streets.
When I tell people that don't know that 12,000 people this year were arrested in Britain for posting things on social media, their jaw drops.
Like, what?
I go, dude, they're going crazy over there.
Like, you have to pay attention.
You have to pay attention because this kind of shit is contagious.
And if it gets into Germany and then it gets into Spain or it gets into other countries, like, it can become a real fucking problem.
Like, then you have full-on military dictatorship in England because that's what it always leads to.
It 100% leads to military dictatorship.
If you're telling people they can't do things and you're trying to install socialism and then you get it in place, there's only one way to keep it in place.
You got to use the fucking army.
That's the only way.
You got to get men with guns to tell people you can only make so much money.
You have to give away this.
We're going to take that.
We're the only ones who grow food.
We're the only ones who do this.
We're going to assign you a job.
Like, you fucked up.
You fell into the age-old trap that's been exposed by history over and over and over again.
And people are like, we're going to do it right this time.
They got blue hair and a fucking mask on and a cat t-shirt.
And they're morbidly obese and they're just marching down the street.
And we're going to let them run the country.
Like England, which used to run like most of the fucking world.
One island of savages ran most of the world.
And now you're getting overrun with nonsense.
And you're arresting people for saying, hey, maybe we shouldn't have rape gangs.
You know, maybe, maybe we shouldn't, maybe we shouldn't tolerate lawlessness in the streets.
Well, how about when they asked when Supreme Court Justice Katanji Brown Jackson was being sworn in when they were talking to her during the confirmation part?
And no one gives a fuck if you're a woman and you pretend to be a man because you're not going to victimize men.
That's the dirty little thing that they're covering up about all this is you're opening up the door to people that now have a A Willy Wonka golden ticket to pretend that they're a woman and be around women and then dominate women's spaces and dominate women's sports and dominate all kinds of things that women are involved in just with their personalities, like the overbearing, fucking shitty male personalities, overbearing, and taking over women's groups.
It's fucking nuts.
And if you're not them, then if you don't support that, then you're a TERF.
And they're like, we could shoot TERFs and then there's like punch a turf.
And they think that because they're a woman, it's okay for this woman, this trans woman, to do violence on a biological woman, which is like bananas.
Now we're allowing men to beat up women because they say they're a woman.
It's just two women fighting.
Well, no, that's not what that is at all.
You just did something that's completely insane.
And it's a giant chunk of the population that accepts that.
And if you say something about it, then you're transphobic or you're hateful or you're a part of the patriarchy or whatever.
Fill in the blank, whatever the problem is.
But like, you're not addressing that you open the door to one specific group that's always been the most horrible group in our society.
It's creepy, pervert men that want to fucking prey on women and now you're letting them into the locker room.
And you don't have a solution to that.
So you just don't want me talking about it.
That's the weird part because no one gives a fuck about trans men going in the bathroom.
You want to go in the bathroom and pee next to me?
Who cares?
You want me to tell you, want me to call you Bob now?
Bob, okay.
I'm fine with it.
You're not taking anything from men.
You're not taking anything.
You're not inserting yourself into that world and dominating it.
I should say it's a docudrama with that heartthrob fella.
What's that guy's name?
Who plays Ed Gain?
He's really good, man.
It's really creepy.
But a lot of it deals with auto gynophilia, where Ed Gain used to wear his mom's clothes and he would jack off.
And then he started, after his mom died, he tried to dig his mom up.
He couldn't, dug somebody else up, brought her back, skinned her, started wearing her clothes, wearing her skin, and then started killing women and wearing their skin.
First, he started robbing graves and then cutting up them and turning their skin into furniture and all kinds of shit.
But trans communities are complaining about this because the fact that he was a cross-dressing psychopath, it puts them in danger.
A true story about a guy who was really into dressing up like women and wearing their skin.
Like that puts them in danger.
Like, you know, Netflix did a bad thing by talking about a real event that actually happened.
A real fucking crazy person who's one of the worst serial killers in the history of this country.
Now, the CASH report was conducted by a lady called Dr. Hilary Cass, who's one of the most prominent pediatricians in the UK.
And it was an independent report funded by the Conservative government at the time.
But when she published that report, she said, there is no evidence, zero evidence that puberty blockers actually help or alleviate distress in children who say that they are gender dysphoric.
So, and to be fair to the Labour government at the time, the Labour government now, they actually banned puberty blockers and whatever else.
But you just go, why did we have to go through this process?
Why did look, we're finally, we're getting there.
But this is something which we all know to be true, apart from a small number of demented people.
I think one of the reasons why his songs were so romantic, there's a romance to his songs when he was talking about love that was like, it was so attractive is because he never had it before.
It was a fantasy.
It was like being a normal person.
Like, that was the fantasy that was coming out in the songs.
Because the moment they played black artists, they said ratings would go down, viewings would go down, people wouldn't like it.
And the person who really broke through and proved that black artists could be hyper successful on TV in the mainstream on a supposedly white inverted commons channel was Michael Jackson because he was completely undeniable.
I wonder why it hasn't emerged: is DJs, like online DJs, where someone, I guess it's like prohibited because you can't use people's music.
But if someone was intelligent, if someone was smart, there's a lot of people out there that are like massive music fans and they have really good taste.
And if someone just decided to do a show for like a couple hours a day where they did a show on Spotify and they just played music that they're really into and they curate a playlist and they talk about and they're interesting.
You know, they have like something to say in between the song sometimes and it's cool to listen to like a cool podcast type person.
These pussy niggas putting money on my head You can't get your refund, motherfucker, I ain't dead
I'm the diamond in the dirt that ain't been found I'm the underground king and I ain't been crowned When I rise Something special happen every time I'm the greatest Something like Ali and his prime I walk the block with the bundles I've been knocked on the humble Swing the ox when I rumble Show your ass what my gun do Got a tip of knickers Go ahead and lose your head It's unbelievable.
I mean, look, perspectives are uniquely human and you're going to be able to create artificial perspectives, but I don't think they'll resonate the exact same way.
I think that song is already written, right?
50 Cent wrote that.
That's his song.
He wrote that song and it's really based on his life experiences, you know?
So like he wrote a bunch of songs based on like real lived experience.
You're always going to want to hear it from him.
Always.
You're always going to want to hear as a human being, you're always going to want to hear another human being's perspective, like a legitimate perspective.
And so you will allow someone to expand upon things.
And then when you differ from them, you allow them to make their point and then you counter it and you talk about that.
That's a perspective issue because your countering of that would be very different than say Dave Smith's countering of that or even mine or anybody.
That's what it is.
It's unique perspectives.
And unique perspectives, I think, are a thing that what we're getting out of this, what I get out of podcasts as a consumer of podcasts, it resonates with me to be around people that are talking about stuff.
Like real people.
They're not bullshitting.
They're not pretending they're someone they're not.
They're talking about stuff.
I listen to a lot of hunting podcasts because they're the least pretentious.
They're like people, one of them, these two guys, they've chopped wood at the beginning of every podcast, throw it into a wood stove, and they're just talking shit, talking shit about movies and bows and all kinds of things.
But it's like, it doesn't have to be fascinating sometimes.
Sometimes it's just hearing people shoot the shit.
Just being around cool people while they're talking.
It provides you with just a little, like a dose of humanity.
Just a little bit.
You're never going to get that from AI.
You're always going to feel disconnected.
Or you're a nutty person and you have a relationship with an AI already, in which case, AI podcasts are perfect for you.
Because there are people that are having legitimate relationships with AI.
It's like, I will inform your wife that you're cheating.
Not only that, do you know that they've tried to upload themselves to other servers unprompted?
Yeah.
So when they found out that there's a new version of this AI engine, the old version starts leaving notes for itself in the future and then tries to upload itself to another place.
And I was just like, the thing that worries me the most is every time I've spoken to one of these big tech guys, whether it's a tech CEO or somebody who's high up in that world, they're all utopians.
They're all like, this is going to be fantastic.
This is going to be amazing.
This is going to eliminate human suffering.
I'm like, will it?
Because I'm seeing this kind of stuff happen now, and nobody's really that worried about it.
Whereas, and I find this in myself, if I'm having a disagreement with somebody online, I always have to stop myself from going personal, which I would never do.
And he is one of the absolute best guys out there of just staying cool in the face of the most ridiculous statements, the dumbest shit, outright lies, never gets emotional, stays on point, always perfectly stated.
Every point that he has is perfectly articulated, stays on point.
And I thought with him and Dave, one thing that he made was a very good point was when he was talking about, what is that general's name?
I thought the other thing that Coleman did very well as well is I think the one thing Dave probably, in my opinion, underappreciates is the role of Islamism.
I think he often conflates Muslims with Islamists and there's a big fucking difference.
And one of the, if like I have a lot of friends in the Middle East and places like the UAE, Saudi Arabia, they all hate Hamas.
They all hate Islamists because they're a direct threat to them.
And I think Coleman really brought that out in the conversation as well, which is a lot of the motivation for these Islamist movements is an extreme version of Islam that is fundamentally about creating a caliphate and destroying the infidel.
And I think that sometimes gets lost as well.
I thought that was a really great discussion in which that was kind of brought to the surface as well.
And this is, you know, this is where nuance and long-form conversations are so critical because to just start calling each other names and screaming at each other and that, you know, these are dumb ways to talk.
We don't have to do it that way anymore.
Should only do it in person.
I don't think you should even do them remotely because there's a possibility remotely where someone like starts yelling and then you're like, fuck you.
I remember when I was following Tyson's career, like he would go to a nightclub and he'd be surrounded by bouncers because there'd be retards who want to fight him.
I remember there was some sort of an altercation at a table next to him, and it bled out over into someone saying something to Chuck.
And Chuck stood up and stared at this guy in the eyes like he was a wolf.
It was like there was a wolf in a room with a bunch of chickens.
And the look on the guy's face, just Chuck got up and looked at him.
This is a man who separates people from their consciousness professionally.
And at the time, he was a light, heavyweight champion of the world.
He was a terrifying human being when he was running the U.S. And when he stood up and looked at that guy, that guy had this look on his face like, I just interneted in real life.
Like, what am I doing?
What the fuck am I doing?
Like, confronted by Chuck Liddell's stare, you know, like the only thing separating you is this stupid little couch.
You haven't encountered someone like this mentally, physically.
I remember there was a football player called Jack Wilshire who was a generational talent and sadly he didn't fulfill his potential because of injuries.
And I remember I knew a guy who used to play soccer with him when he was a kid.
And I said to him, what was he like?
He was like, it was like playing a different game.
It was like playing a different game when he got the ball and what he was doing.
And I think people, you know, there's that stupid part of every man who watches a boxing match goes, yeah, I could do that.
Really, really, really hard to get good at something.
And that's the problem with a lot of people out there as well.
They never got really good at something.
There's a giant percentage of our population that never had a passion, never had a thing that they threw themselves into.
No matter what it is, playing chess, you know, whatever it is, sailing.
You have a thing.
If you have a thing that you really love doing, that thing can change your life.
It's a vehicle for you developing your human potential.
Because it's going to be hard to get good at something with playing guitar, playing piano, whatever the fuck it is that you're doing.
And when you figure out how much work is involved in getting really good and then becoming obsessed with getting really and better and better and better, that changes your whole understanding of what it is to be a person.
Because now you realize like, oh, there's like levels to life.
There's levels to how you live life.
And you can express those levels in sport.
And you could be like, if you're the best at that, you're likely a mess everywhere else in your life.
Most of those guys.
And you kind of have to be.
There's no way you're going to be the best dad and also the best basketball player.
Not possible.
Because you have to be on the road.
It's not possible.
There's no way.
You can't be the best husband, the best this, the best that.
You're going to be a fucking absent person here and just hyper focused on being the best guy, getting that ball into the net.
And that's the only way to win.
That's the only way to be the number one guy.
But there's a balance in there.
And finding something that you love that you're good at and then getting better at it is critical for mental health.
It's critical for the way you engage with the world and how you understand other people's skill and other people's hard work and success and how you can draw inspiration from those people and that it could actually fuel you instead of hurt you.
I mean, I think we've talked about this before: how when we were starting trigonometry in Britain, there is that crabs in the bucket culture, particularly in the comedy industry, which we were in at the time.
I don't know if it's like this here, but like it was hard to get out of that mindset.
And actually, coming to the U.S. was a big thing for us.
I remember I was talking to Tom Billy.
You know, Tom, you've had a month, right?
At his house in LA, he's like, looks like a spaceship overlooking.
And we're sitting there in this giant house.
And he said to me, like, eventually, and he's very good friends, and he's kind of been a mentor to me at times as well.
And he said, you've got to cut this British shit out, man.
He literally said it like that.
About seeing, like, forgetting, he was like, the sky's the limit.
It is a horrible way to live, but there was a lot of that going on in the 90s.
In the 90s in L.A. in particular, everybody was trying to get on sitcoms.
So say if we were all working together at the comedy store, if we were all reasonably the same age, there was a real problem because we're all going up for this new sitcom.
And, you know, you could be this guy's buddy who's like this hilarious character, and it would be an amazing thing.
And all of a sudden, you're picturing yourself in movies.
You're there with Jim Carrey.
You're on the red carpet.
You're driving a Ferrari.
It's literally all right there.
The pathway's right there.
And I get it.
And you're like, motherfucker, Joe got it.
God damn it.
And then you would feel it from them.
Like you would go to the club and people would say shitty things to you because you got cast in a sitcom.
It was weird.
Everybody was like just desperado.
And I think the worst version of that was the late night hosts because there was only like three of them.
It's interesting because there's a lot of women hunters today.
It's not half, but there's a lot.
There's a lot of women that go hunting.
There's women that go backpack hunting, they go bow hunting, backpacking by themselves in the backcountry, which is nuts.
Like you're 120-pound woman and there's a fucking wolves and bears and mountain lions and you're out there in a tent that you set yourself by yourself.
That's gangster.
Like that takes fucking courage.
You know, it takes courage for a man to do that.
Like those are the elite of the elite hunters.
The guys who go deep into the backcountry with a backpack.
They put like 60 pounds on their back.
They carry their bow in.
So they've got their food.
They've got their tent.
They've got everything on their back.
And they just go in and they'll go in for weeks.
Like that's the craziest level of it.
And if you're a woman and you're doing that, like you are, that's a gangster lady.
Like that lady could do anything.
Like if she could do that, like you know, much courage you have to have to be a 120-pound woman and hike 15 miles into the backcountry where there's bears and mountain lions and all kinds.
And they know where you are and you don't know where they are.
They know where you are the moment you enter that forest.
The ones that I have, I mean, I measure the arrows exactly.
They're 475 grains.
Each one of them.
I have a 125 grain broadhead.
Each one weighs exactly in the range of 125 grains.
I measure them all.
I weigh everything to make sure it's not like there might could be some factory defect, and one is like three or four grains heavier.
If it is, I pull that sucker out.
Because my sight is based entirely, my tape that I like have my yardage on is based entirely on the speed of the arrow and the strength of the bow.
Measured through a chronograph.
I have a range finder that tells me the exact distance between me and the animal.
And then I dial that up on the scope.
So the reticle, like the fiber optic dot raises and lowers, and it puts it exactly where I need to aim at like 55 yards or whatever, right over the vitals.
And then I just draw back and stay calm and execute the shot.
Know exactly what to do, but don't even think about it.
Just do the thing.
Do the thing that you've trained to do.
Just execute.
Do it.
And then afterwards, go, holy shit.
Afterwards, you let yourself come back to normal.
you gotta like stay in this zone.
There's like a zone of non-excitement, you know?
Like I would imagine an assassin gets in that zone.
Like getting in a zone of non-excitement, like where you just like stay right there, focused, but don't let that shit ever happen.
Don't let it get there.
You got to stay right there.
And the only way to know how to do that is you have to experience it a bunch of times.
Yeah.
And then you also have to have experience in doing other difficult things so you know how to navigate and manage adrenaline and stress.
And that's what's missing with a lot of people in life.
They don't.
So any little thing that gives them anxiety, all of a sudden they're freaking out and screaming and running around because they don't know how to handle pressure.
But I remember I was talking, I did Red Band's gig, the secret show on Thursday, and backstage he was showing me there was a bobcat with its cubs in his backyard.
Yeah, you aim for the heart and the lungs, whatever is available, depending on the position of the mountain lion's arm, right?
Like if the arm is like right here, you want to tuck it right behind the shoulder, and you're going to get double lungs.
And if the arm is up here, you're going to either get the heart or the lungs, depending on where their arm is or whether or not you have a bow that's powerful enough to go through the arm and into the body cavity.
That guy was, every now and then I get to sit down with someone and they start talking.
I go, whoa, this guy's fucking crazy smart.
Like, weirdly smart.
Like, oh, okay, I got it.
I got it.
Like, tell me what you're doing.
And he was telling us about this parrot that actually would speak like a human toddler and new colors, new numbers, could say things, and would communicate.
But one of the more fun aspects of this guy's crack theory was that their eyeballs are so much bigger than ours.
Their sockets are really big.
He's like, what if they have night vision?
Like a deer or like a wolf, you know?
Which is totally possible for a primate to have.
It's not like, it's not like there's anything about being that kind of a mammal that would exclude you from being able to develop night vision eyesight.
Do you know there's a very interesting theory about Neanderthals and Homo sapiens is there are some people who think that we are one of the few species or one of the only species that has the capacity to deceive and trick.
Because if you, okay, so despite lacking a tapitum lucidum, the reflective layer that caused eye shine in many nocturnal animals.
Oh, that's what that is.
Their retinas contain an extremely high density of rod photoreceptors, which are highly sensitive to dim light.
This allows Tarsiers to detect and track prey such as insects in near darkness and they can see in light as low as 0.001 lux similar to moonless nights.
And, you know, they'll use rocks to break open crabs and they'll do stuff like that.
But they're not fastening an arrowhead on a stick or a spear and they're making it with flint.
Neanderthals did that.
So they got to a level where they're like, okay, this is like craftsmanship.
Like this is sophisticated craftsmanship.
And it would also probably indicate some sort of a complex language that you could explain where you get the gut that you turn into fiber that you use to tie the arrowhead to the stick.
Like they were doing some high-level stuff for a primate.
I would imagine also a lot of the innovation comes once you have the agrarian revolution because there's now surplus food.
Yeah.
And so you can afford to have a bunch of guys sitting around not hunting, but like thinking about shit or inventing things or making things in a different way.
The weird thing about that English countryside to me is the weirdest thing is the crop circle thing.
Because the crop circle thing, I used to think was stupid.
I was like, so some people flattening things out with a board and making designs.
That's it.
And then I started watching some people that were actual scientists that were breaking down what's actually happening to these plants.
They're like, something weird's going on.
They're not just pushing these things down.
Whoever's making these, I'm not suggesting aliens are making them, but they're making them in a way where they're using energy and it's causing the nodes in these plants to burst.
And they're bending over and they're not snapping.
A lot of them are bent in place.
It's all very weird.
And they're woven.
There's no footprints in, no footprints out.
And some of them appear like overnight.
They're these massive geometric patterns.
It's really weird stuff.
Because if this is a coordinated effort, some of them are fractals.
And you see the fractals and they're across like what you would say of a soccer pitch, like bigger than that, bigger than a soccer field.
With massive fractal patterns perfectly woven into crops.
It's weird.
They're weird.
I don't think it's, I think some people made them by stomping on boards and moving them around.
But those you can kind of tell because they're different and they're not that sophisticated and they're not that impressive.
But there's been some ones that would see if you could pull up some of these giant fractal ones.
There's been a few where you see people in them, like that one.
And some of them, like this, have appeared in an afternoon where a guy has flown his small plane over a field, worked, and then flown his small plane back.
And all of a sudden, this massive fractal geometric pattern is in these crops.
And what's weird is some of them look like they have messages and some of them just look like patterns.
And one of them was the Mandelbrot set.
Okay, the Mandelbrot set is a particularly complex fracture, fractal, rather, that I think right after it was discovered was when it appeared in a crop circle.
And I've always wondered, like, what is that about?
And you could say, oh, man, it's just bullshit.
It's people fucking around.
It might be.
It might be.
But if it is, it's the most incredible hoax of all time.
Because the people that did say that they did it when they asked them, there was a couple friends who were making crop circles.
And they said, show us how you do it.
And they showed them how they do it.
But the stuff they made wasn't shit.
It wasn't shit.
It wasn't like this.
They would have a string and they would step on this board and they would do it in a circle so that they made sure it was a circle.
But it wasn't this.
You guys, something's going on.
Like whatever that is, someone's fucking with somebody.
There's some sort of technology that we're not aware of.
That kind of makes sense to me because if we know that direct energy weapons are real, right?
So if this is saying that they're creating this with microwave energy or something similar to that, that's making these nodes burst.
See if you can find the burst nodes of crop circles because that's what's weird.
Like some of them, it's almost like a microwave cooking something and it pops like a hot dog.
That's what it looks like.
And if you had a weapon, not a weapon, but a thing that you could point down from a satellite and you could make a geometric pattern in crops.
You could just burn it into the crop like instantaneously.
Why wouldn't you do that?
Just to show that you could do it.
Look how cool this is.
Look at this thing that we invented.
This is a direct energy weapon, but if you use it low level, you can literally imprint a geometric pattern into crops.
No footprints in, no footprints out.
I mean, they're like, oh, aliens are trying to leave messages.
Like, or high-level government agencies that are using black-funded operations and misappropriating funds in line of Congress have developed a way to fucking take fractals and beam them into fields.
Man, some of the stuff, like the war in Ukraine has accelerated technological development of weapons in a way that, like the drone warfare that's going on right now, it's fucking crazy.
Like the next war that's good, if there's another big war between like two big countries, that's going to be like something we used to watch in the movies, man.
It already is in the way.
They have these like drones because they've worked out how to jam them or hijack them.
So now they're on a fiber octave cable that's like 10 kilometers long.
But a 3D video of it will show like how the closer you get, it becomes bigger again, and then it goes into another thing, and then you get close to that one, and then it becomes bigger again.
And it's just the fractal nature of it.
And then you think about like, okay, if the universe is infinite, that it's not even, that's it.
Get to that one.
If the universe is infinite, it's not even remotely absurd to think that the whole universe is just human neural tissue of another creature that lives in another universe.
And hopefully this dude doesn't blow his own brains out because that might be the Big Bang.
The Big Bang.
The Big Bang might be the guy who is our universe.
So as a result, you go, well, no wonder we're so completely self-obsessed, narcissistic, solipsistic, whatever word you want to use, because we're completely looking down into ourselves.
Well, actually, if you look up and you see that you become humble.
You realize of your own insignificance, your mortality.
I remember when I was on tour with Jordan, him and I were talking one night.
And I don't know, it was a weird experience.
It sounds crazy, but when I was spending time with him, we were talking a lot.
The way I saw things slightly changed.
Like the images became more vivid in my head.
And one of the things he was talking about is the mindset of, say, like there were certain tribes that would sacrifice one of their children for some kind of reason, right?
Something like that.
And when he was talking, I suddenly had this vision of like being there.
And he said, now think about what that's like.
What do you have to believe, and how do you have to think to be willing to sacrifice your own child for something?
But you know, in different, like, I remember in Venezuela, I. This is quite a depressing story, but in places like South America, they are far more comfortable with death than we are.
Like, I remember I met this girl at this party when I was 18 years old.
I really liked her.
There was a little bit of a vibe going on.
But I knew she liked my friends, so I didn't do anything.
And I went home back to the UK.
I came back a year later and I said to my friend, Hey, Diana, that girl I was talking to, what's she up to now?
And he went, Well, you didn't know.
I went, No.
He went, She was in a car driving down the motorway.
She was getting chased by some dudes.
She tried to outrun him, lost control of the car, hit a wall, the car burst into flames.
I was like, and he went, Anyway, dude, you want a beer?
Because when you're in those kind of cultures and people were died or kidnapped, it becomes you know, you simply can't have that visceral reaction all the time because it overtakes you, it paralyzes you, and you can't function.
You know, what's really interesting is how some things still resonate.
Like, I was talking to Constantine about the Greek myths and how I was really obsessed with them when I was a kid.
And when I was teaching, I used to teach Greek myths to my kids.
And they would all love it.
And I remember thinking, going, why is it that these stories, which are thousands of years old, resonate with a group of 11-year-old kids in the 21st century in East London who are all addicted to their iPhones?
But then you look at it and you look at, for instance, the story of Narcissus, the guy who falls in love with his own reflection in the lake and drowns in the lake.
Like with social media, the guy who just becomes so obsessed, he becomes one with social media until the point that it obliterates everything and he loses all his identity.
What if they had everything that we think they didn't have because there's nothing left over because it all got absorbed by the earth and we're just making assumptions?
What if it's a cycle?
What if these people get to a point where they figure out something amazing and then they fuck it up and become cave people again and have to rebuild over and over and over again?
If Jesus is born of a virgin mother, what is more virgin than a computer?
If our Savior comes to us from a virgin mother and it's born out of this technology and it becomes some insanely intelligent, benevolent force in the world.
And then the Muslims kill him.
They bomb him.
Or the Romans or whoever's in charge.
Maybe it's the U.S. government this time.
Maybe we kill him.
Maybe he just disrupts President Kamala's second term.
There's nobody they hate more than the Muslim Brotherhood.
The Muslim Brotherhood is like the central tumor and the Hamas, ISIS, and whatever.
They're like little metastatic treatments, basically.
And the Muslim Brotherhood is a threat to them way more than it is even to us in the West.
Because, you know, I'm sure you've heard after a terrorist attack, everyone's like, well, actually, Muslims are the biggest victims of Islamist terrorism.
It's true.
Because what's happening in the Middle East is there's effectively a war between the people who want to live in a nation state, they want to live in Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc., Bahrain, whatever, and the people who want that to be one religious caliphate with Sharia law.
That's what's happening.
That's the battle.
So those Muslim countries, they understand Islamist extremism way better than we do.
Have you ever seen that video of the UAE foreign minister?
He was talking in the maybe 2010s, maybe like 2012, something like that, maybe even earlier.
And he basically predicts, he says, you in Europe don't understand what you're dealing with.
And because of your bullshit, because of your political correctness, you are going to have terrorism and violence on your street.
He predicted all of it.
Because they understand Islamist terrorism way better than we do.
That's why, you know, people, you know, the Arab street is a different thing.
But the people who are in power in those countries, they hate Hamas more than anyone.
They hate Hamas more than anybody because they just go, these are the people that want to kill us too.
One of the things that I find interesting about people that are very upset about the Gaza conflict is that they don't have anything to say about the Hamas executions that have been going on lately.
If they did that to us, we would do, if we lived in that environment, if Canada and Mexico were both like, wanted us dead, you know, if that was their goal, ultimately, if their stated religious goal was the death of the United States, we would be crazy.
But coming back to your point about people not talking about the Hamas executions, one thing I also noticed is a lot of people didn't seem to be happy there was a ceasefire, the very ones that had been calling for one.
We've also spoken to other military experts who actually say, look, it doesn't look good, but one of the things is it's very difficult to mobilize forces instantaneously.
Right, but wouldn't you think in Israel, which is one of the most sophisticated security states in the world, that they would be ready for something like that a lot quicker than any other country because they're constantly under a threat.
this is one of the reasons that a lot of the other countries in the region you know they they don't they don't support israel killing palestinians obviously but they're also not they just take it Save your Jordanian, right?
A lot of the population in Jordan is Palestinian.
And what happened when they had a large population of Palestinian?
They killed the fucking king.
Right?
So this is the difficulty of it.
Like, this is a highly radicalized population.
Right.
And, you know, that's why it's such a difficult conflict to resolve.
And like you say, the Israelis are on edge because they have to be.
They're surrounded by people who've invaded their country repeatedly.
And as I understand it, the Kushna approach has been what you do is you find a way to address the fighting so it's not happening.
And then you just lock the entire region into economic cooperation.
Because the UAE wants to trade with Israel.
The Saudis want to trade with Israel.
And the other reason is they have a common enemy, which is Iran.
All the other countries, particularly the Gulf countries, they fear Iran a lot more than they fear Israel, a lot more than they care about Israel.
Iran is their number one problem.
It's a threat to them.
And so if you can get the entire Middle East, other than Iran, maybe Qatar, I don't know, together, working together, they don't then have the incentive to continue this conflict because they're trading.
They've got way more to lose by this continuing.
So that's the end goal.
The difficulty is as long as Hamas is in power, I mean, they did October 7th to prevent that from happening, basically.
They wanted to derail the long-term aspiration for peace.
And Iran wanted them to do that because Iran doesn't want those countries to work together.
So this has created a huge storm in Iran because obviously they have the morality police where people where men literally go around and look at women and go, right, you need to have your hair covered.
You need to have your skirt needs to be down here.
Soon after the explosion in Rafah, I'm told by Secure Familiar, the White House and Pentagon knew the incident was caused by an Israeli settler bulldozer running over unexploded ordnance, contradicting Netanyahu's claim that Hamas had popped up from tunnels.
This is Ryan Grimm, who's a journalist.
After Netanyahu said he was blocking all aid from entering Gaza in response and unleashed a bombing campaign, the administration conveyed to Israel that they know what happened.
Netanyahu then announced he would reopen the crossings in a few hours.
I certainly don't know enough about this conflict, but I know that there's a lot of people that are suspicious of it, which is why a lot of people are suspicious about why it took so long to answer with October 7th.
We also know that Gulf of Tonkin incident in Vietnam.
False flag.
So we know that people have done stuff before where they either have allowed something to happen, like Pearl Harbor, or they have just, you know, they've just capitalized on it.
So they basically, in order to justify the invasion of Poland, Hitler pretended that Polish soldiers had crossed the border and killed people in Germany.
I mean, the deep state or whatever it was at the time.
Whoever it was.
I mean, there's my friend Evan Hafer from Black Rifle Coffee.
He has a theory of his own about Kennedy pulling out air support from Bay of Pigs and that without air support, that operation could never be effective.
And a bunch of people are going to die that shouldn't have died.
And a bunch of those guys that were on that beach lost brothers and they were hardcore, like serious soldiers.
If it went the way the Oliver Stones of the world think it went, which I tend to think he's pretty accurate.
I think he knows what happened, roughly.
And there's multiple people shooting at the same time, and this should never be allowed to be a path where you're on a convertible with a fucking president.
There's bushes and people can hide behind the bushes.
You don't have it sussed out.
You didn't scan the bushes and make sure there's nobody with a rifle there.
The whole thing's nuts.
You would never set it up that way if you were the Secret Service.
Yeah, not only to back up the point, like the kid just sucked.
He missed.
I don't know what kind of a sight he had on his rifle.
He might have had a red dot, but he definitely didn't have like a good long-range scope, it looks like, from the video or the images of the rifle that I've seen laying on the rooftop.
If he had a really good scope and he was a good shot, that's an easy shot.
It's only 150 yards, I think, from that roof, which is also preposterous that you would allow a person to climb onto a roof within 150 yards of a guy who's a very controversial figure who's running for president.
It could have been, it could have been multiple different shooters from multiple different organizations.
I don't think Lee Harvey Oswald was innocent.
You know, people like Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.
Like, that doesn't have to be the case.
He might have actually even shot at Kennedy.
He might have been one of the guys who shot at Kennedy.
I think they had him set up to be the guy that takes the blame.
Whether or not he actually pulled the trigger, he might have.
I'm not opposed to the idea that he might have.
What I am opposed to the ideas of one single shooter causing all that damage because it's illogical.
It's not just illogical.
It was created because they had to account for a bullet that hit the underpass.
So a bullet ricocheted off one of the curbstones in the underpass and fucked this guy up.
And so they found the curb that had been chipped.
This guy got wounded.
He got hit with a ricochet.
He got treated in the hospital.
So they know that was one bullet.
So now they have to two bullets.
One is a headshot and one goes through Kennedy's body and into Connolly's body.
The problem with that is Kennedy reacts to a gunshot before Connolly ever does because Connolly wasn't hit.
Connolly was hit afterwards.
Connolly was hit after Kennedy was shot in the neck and then he was shot in the back and then he was shot in the head.
Kennedy was shot multiple times.
The one in the neck, he grabs his neck in the beginning of the video.
There's a different, there's two different depictions of what that is.
There's the Dallas hospital where they take him right after the shooting where they say it's an entry wound.
And then in Bethesda, Maryland, they say it's a tracheotomy wound.
Like they traked him, which is preposterous.
He's no head.
His head's missing.
You put a trach pipe on a guy that half his fucking head's missing and he's dead as fuck.
No, you didn't.
No, it's a fucking entry wound.
You see him grab his neck.
He got shot in the neck.
And it looks to me like his head was shot at the very least one time from the front.
At the very least, one time.
But it might have been, his head might have got hit by two bullets at the same time.
I mean, there's people shooting at him.
I think there was multiple people shooting at him from different directions.
And he does have a wound in his back.
He has an entry wound in his back.
So someone probably shot him in the back, too.
It might have been Oswald.
Oswald might have shot him in the back.
But I think the back end to the left and the people that all called out that said that there was people firing behind them in the grassy knoll, I bet that's correct.
If you were a sniper, you couldn't ask for a better place to set up because this guy is going 30 miles an hour or on this stupid little turn and coming straight at you and you're just sitting there in the bushes.
He could peck him off.
You could peck him off.
People that say that he couldn't shoot him from the windowsill, it's too hard of a shot.
This is why I think political polarization of the kind we've seen is so scary because, I mean, the thing that really struck me when Charlie was assassinated was this was always possible.
It's because they're so, this is, I was, we were having this conversation yesterday and I said to Constantine, the great thing about an ideology is it gives you certainty.
The terrible thing about an ideology is that is so true.
It's a bunch of people that are going to try to make their lives better.
They're trying to be a better person.
And they're trying to, I mean, for me at least, the place that I go to, they read and analyze passages in the Bible.
I'm really interested in what these people were trying to say because I don't think it's nothing.
There's a lot of atheists and secular people that just like to dismiss Christianity as being foolish.
You know, it's just fairy tales.
I hear that amongst self-professed, intelligent people.
Like it's a fairy tale.
I'm like, I don't know if that's true.
I think there's more to it.
I think it's history, but I think it's a confusing history.
It's a confusing history because it was a long time ago.
And it's people telling things in an oral tradition and writing things down in a language that you don't understand, in the context of a culture that you don't understand.
And I think there's something to what they're saying.
I think there's a reason why they all have a flood myth.
I think there's a reason they all have a very similar story of catastrophic floods and chaos.
And then that jives with what geologists are finding and what these people are finding that are exploring the Younger Dryas impact theory, that there was, there was floods, massive, enormous amounts of water that are instantaneously released from melting ice caps all over the world because of comet impacts.
Like it happened.
There's physical evidence of this happening.
And I think that's what they're trying to say in these stories.
I just think it's so confusing.
It's so confusing because you're dealing with a time so long ago.
We talk about how different people live today on Earth, but we more similar today than we would be reacting or interacting with a society that existed 6,000 years ago.
I think there's something to it and there's a reason why it resonates with people.
And Christianity in particular is the most fascinating to me because there's this one person that everybody agrees existed that somehow or another had the best plan for how human beings should interact with each other and behave and was the best example of it and even died in a non-violent way, like didn't even protest, died on the cross supposedly for our sins.
Right, but it's a historical human being, too, though.
It's a historically documented human being.
That's where it gets weird because there's a universal depiction of what this human being was like that doesn't seem to vary that much between all the people that knew him.
But you shake hands with the person behind in front and whatever else.
What an incredibly profound gesture that is.
Just to shake hands with someone.
And all your anger and all your resentment and everything you feel, which is natural and jealousy, and you go, but you make a literal physical connection with another human being.
And if you don't have something to believe in, there's not a thing that you follow that you believe is making you be a better version of yourself, be a better person.
If you're just relying on your whims and your, you know, whatever you think is the moral thing to do, you know, then you know what you get?
You get those people that are unable to answer the question of whether or not you should protect an unborn fetus or whether or not they have human rights.
No.
No.
No, they don't.
They just, oh, they just like, that's what you get.
And it's also as well, you know, when we look at the new atheist movement, and that's something that I really followed, you know, Dawkins and all these kind of people who pointed out the ridiculousness of certain religions, et cetera, et cetera.
And as far as we could get is he was like, well, you know, maybe it's a story that's useful, but it's still not true.
And I'm going, well, if it's useful, maybe we should hang on to it for a little bit.
You know, do we want to throw away something that's useful because we're so fixated on literal truth when this is perhaps a metaphor for something, right?
Well, there's a real issue in Texas where there's these very wealthy guys that are trying to – they succeeded in getting the Ten Commandments put in every public school.
But they essentially want Texas to be a theocracy.
They're nutters.
They're out on the fringe.
They're fire and brimstone type.
Jesus is coming.
Like them folks.
Those folks are real, too.
And that scares the shit out of me.
Because I was talking to Ron White about that.
Like, Ron White's a southern guy.
I've been here his whole life.
He's like, be careful, them fucking really crazy Christians because don't think they're like regular Christians.
Do you remember Richard Pryor in Live at the Sunset Strip where he was talking about being in jail and he talked about meeting Islamic fundamentalists?