Anyway, Alex's entire angle on the story is that Abraham Foxman, the head of the ADL, is doing an about-face in this interview because Alex watched a couple of minutes where Foxman said that he doesn't think that Mel Gibson's anti-Semitic, which is a turnaround. Alex believes that he's seen Foxman call Gibson and his movie anti-Semitic in the past, so this is a softening of his position.