To me, it's like tuning in a radio. Yeah. Right? And a lot of it, there's, I guess it's the way I was raised, you kind of have to be worthy. Right. You know? I mean, there's a big dose of, if you're all angry and treating people mean and doing all that, I'm closing the book. I'm not sending you nothing. I think that too. Yeah. I think that too. You've got to be receptive and honor this process that we're going through here. And if you're in that frame of mind and some humility about this whole thing, maybe I'll send you something. The Muse. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever heard of Stephen Pressfield? Huh? Stephen Pressfield, he's an author. He wrote a great book called The War of Art. I have boxes of this book out front, and I give it to comedians and artists all the time because it's just a book about the creative process, about writing. And one of the things that he talks about is the muse, about giving honor to the muse and sitting there and calling upon the muse for these ideas. That if you treat it like it's a real thing, it will provide you. If you show up every day and you put in the work, the muse will give you these ideas. But they do feel like to everybody that I talk to that's really creative, they feel like they're coming from somewhere. Yeah, and it feels like it's always been there. Right. And it's just up to you to be able to actually be able to see it or hear it. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So I do a lot of, I get ideas in my head. I'm just walking around and it'll play to me the same as if you're listening to the radio. It just gets in the head. Right. You start feeling it. But I do believe you have to be doing it all the time. For me, it was a process to actually sit down, be ready, and a lot of times nothing happens. You know, you got a blank sheet of paper and it stays blank. But if you do that enough times, at certain times, you'll get a really good inspiration. You'll be allowed to receive it. Yeah. Right? But it really isn't you.

When you're making something, and we talked about this, and it's resonating with you, it just seems like in your wheelhouse, it's you. That's probably going to be really good.

That I did this, and you're off on some weird thing trying to, you know, be a change or different or something. That's not going to work.

He was like, I get my best because Brian has been walking a lot. He recently had a heart attack, unfortunately. He's fine, but he almost wasn't. And so now he's dedicated himself to walking. He's walking a lot every day. And he's like, when I go on my walks, like, so many ideas come to me.

But where is the finish line, Joe? Like, okay, so I did the Broadway show, then I shot it, then I edited it. But now I'm here still talking about it. And then in a month from now, two months from now, someone will stop me at the airport and go, hey, I was, my kid was sick. I was in the hospital. I watched your thing and it made me laugh for five minutes when life was. So all of it is. There's no finish lines.

And what I find so fascinating about that is that it is kind of a timeline for Kanye early on of in response to negative attention, he does his best work.