Hey folks, please enjoy this free preview of the December bonus! The OG Defender of Christmas himself gives us some deep psychological insight into why we all hate Christmas so much and are actively trying to destroy it. Featuring Tom Curry from Cognitive Dissonance, Citation Needed, and Dear Old Dads! Get the full episode as a 2nd tier patron or above at patreon.com/wherethereswoke!
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| What's so scary about the woke mob? | |
| How often you just don't see them coming. | |
| Anywhere you see diversity, equity, and inclusion, you see Marxism and you see woke principles being pushed. | |
| Wokeness is a virus more dangerous than any pandemic hands down. | |
| The woke monster is here and it's coming for everything. | |
| Instead of go-go boots, the seductress Green M&M will now wear sneakers. | |
| I really want to win this War on Christmas this year, so I brought in the big guns. | |
| I brought in literally someone with big guns. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Probably owns guns. | |
| You're gonna ruin my liberal cred! | |
| He's an all-around asset in the War on Christmas. | |
| No, it's cool if you take like a I don't know, like some sort of super-hyper-lefty approach to it? | |
| Like, oh, my guns are for the revolution, you know? | |
| Or it's to protect, you know, black community members, you know? | |
| I have BLM on all my guns. | |
| I just, I inscribe it in there. | |
| And Che Guevara, just to be sure. | |
| Now people are going to think I'm a gun nut. | |
| Jesus Christ. | |
| I would put like, if it were me, I'd put everything on the gun. | |
| Like white lives matter, black lives matter, whatever. | |
| And then like when someone's around, I'll just cover the one, you know, like cover the one that's not their team. | |
| Yeah, cover your bases. | |
| That's smart. | |
| Thomas has an enormous, giant cannon of a, I had to put a lot of slogans on here, guys. | |
| I just, I believe in a lot of things. | |
| Nope, I would never own a gun in a million years. | |
| That's okay. | |
| So I'm relying on, you know, the gun owners in our movement to win the war on Christmas. | |
| We really wanted to bring in a pro here. | |
| You've been fighting the war on Christmas, I think, for a long time, right? | |
| I mean, you've been a part of this, I imagine. | |
| Yeah, and you know, I'm losing terribly because I noticed this year there's still Christmas. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh man, you gotta change your tactics. | |
| As an avowed lefty, I don't know what we're doing wrong, guys. | |
| I don't know if you noticed, but it happens every year. | |
| Despite our best efforts. | |
| I get a holiday cup from Starbucks or whatever and I get my basic bitch pumpkin spice latte on it and it says happy holidays and still Christmas rolls around. | |
| I don't know what else I have to do. | |
| Part of it could be that we all deeply love and celebrate Christmas. | |
| That could be... That is probably part of it. | |
| I'm just thinking that might be part of it. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't know if that's... I love Christmas so much that I've told the kids my favorite holiday is actually Christmas Eve because I love the anticipation of Christmas. | |
| Like, I love it being, like, right there. | |
| This is a perfect Lydia answer. | |
| It's the best. | |
| This is the most selfless, fucking perfect Lydia answer. | |
| I'm Tom Curry, by the way. | |
| Well, I don't think I said my name. | |
| This is a perfect Lydia answer. | |
| Did I not say Tom? | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| I just got into a joke. | |
| We've got Tom from Dear Old Dads. | |
| That's your only podcast, right? | |
| There you go. | |
| That's it. | |
| That's all I'm doing. | |
| Cognitive dissonance and citation needed. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And gun owner. | |
| Avid gun enthusiast. | |
| It's all machine guns. | |
| I only own machine guns. | |
| It's exclusively the banned ones. | |
| Whatever is banned. | |
| Look, we've got seven sick kids, and I don't even have a brain. | |
| They're exhausted from fighting this war on Christmas and never winning, and our kids are fighting a war on our sanity, and they're winning. | |
| Oh yeah, easily. | |
| Wait, what if we could get our kids to fight the war on Christmas? | |
| Because they're undefeated. | |
| Kids are undefeated in every respect. | |
| Taking our time, stealing Tom's dreams, as he often says. | |
| Dream thieves, yeah. | |
| So I think if we get our kids enlisted, I think we might have something here. | |
| It's an interesting thought. | |
| They don't give a fuck. | |
| I will say that. | |
| Like they will charge, they will charge the guns of the war on Christmas with gusto. | |
| Just, I mean, they'll go up and over the hill. | |
| No problem. | |
| I'll tell you what, my kids absolutely like they, we were wrapping presents today. | |
| Actually, I spent my morning today wrapping presents. | |
| Oh my gosh. | |
| Good for you. | |
| You know what, I've done it so many times the night before at like two, three o'clock in the morning. | |
| Yeah, that's the only night that's available for it. | |
| I didn't know there was another option. | |
| It's the worst. | |
| So last year, I mean, this is like a total major aside, but last year we had a one day old. | |
| At home while I was wrapping presents and carrying him and walking up and down our stairs less than 24 hours after giving birth. | |
| And I think you tapped out at a certain point. | |
| I tried to finish like some of your work. | |
| I went till like five, so I don't know how. | |
| Really? | |
| I remember doing a bunch of stuff that I was like, oh. | |
| You went to like five in the morning? | |
| Yeah. | |
| But I also wasn't sleeping because of the baby. | |
| But I was miserable and everything was sore obviously because I had given birth less than 24 hours before. | |
| I hear that's a lot of work. | |
| I don't know. | |
| But I still had her go up on the roof and come down the chimney though. | |
| Well, after she strung all the lights outside, you know, she was really exhausted. | |
| It's the only night to do it, also. | |
| It's those muscles you don't use all the time to get sore. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| It's never the big ones. | |
| Chimney-squeezing muscles. | |
| Yeah, I mean all this is actually on point because this idea that we atheists Liberals want to get rid of Christmas is the funniest fucking thing. | |
| What's our first video on that? | |
| We're gonna have this absolute pro analyze for us. | |
| So we We are gonna go to the OG for the war on Christmas. | |
| We're gonna visit Mr. OG Actually, yeah, kinda. | |
| Yeah, I guess a little bit. | |
| Right, yeah. | |
| Bill O'Reilly, back when he was on Fox News, before he was ousted, 2013. | |
| This is not the beginning of The War on Christmas, but we're going to take a little stop here. | |
| It's sort of like the Gospels, though. | |
| Like, okay, they didn't happen when Jesus was alive. | |
| It's like they're denoted afterwards. | |
| Yeah, we can't actually like serious note though Like it's hard to find a lot of these old Fox News clips like we're trying and we're gonna we're gonna talk about the origins of it and stuff But the original I don't know if you know, we'd have to find like someone's racist grandpa that has them all on VHS Yes, it's getting scrubbed Who more faithful a scribe or historian than Bill O'Reilly? | |
| I mean, I just, it's the right one. | |
| It's the right one. | |
| So 2013. | |
| Well, now I want to know, I'm very curious what you guys tell me. | |
| I want to know when the war on Christmas officially began, when the first shots were fired. 2004. | |
| Yeah. | |
| 2004! | |
| Yeah, December 3rd, 2004, O'Reilly Factor debuted a segment called Christmas Under Siege. | |
| And that's where it started in like the media, essentially. | |
| But there are claims that the Christmas traditions have been threatened back a hundred years. | |
| You know, this is kind of tale as old as time with regard to Christianity always being the victim. | |
| I wanna imagine that that, we can't find that clip, I don't think, right? | |
| That 204 one? | |
| No. | |
| Well, we'll keep looking, but I wanna imagine it's like the early Steamboat Willie Mickey Mouse, whatever, like, the old Riley's, like, looks all different and black and white and, you know what I mean? | |
| Like, it's not Mickey Mouse. | |
| He's tapping his foot and whistling in the air. | |
| Well, look at him, he was just so jaunty back in the day. | |
| The hate doesn't pour out of them like a pelvis. | |
| The leftists are stealing Christmas. | |
| Yeah, a little speech bubble. | |
| Like the piano music, like it's a silent film. | |
| Do they have to do that too for cartoons? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't know. | |
| But it's horribly intertwined with antisemitism. | |
| You know, when you go back a hundred years... You don't say. | |
| Some of the first bits of this is 1921 from Henry Ford, of course. | |
| He automated anti-Semitism, right? | |
| I'll put that if I remember. | |
| Before, everybody had to build their anti-Semitism start to finish. | |
| Yeah, he didn't invent it, he just made it way more efficient. | |
| Oh, that's good. | |
| And the thing he wrote was called, The International Jew, The World's Foremost Problem. | |
| Wow, good, good, good. | |
| And the thing that he wrote is about how hard it was to find Christmas cards that talked about Jesus. | |
| No way, really? | |
| And so, it's the Jew's fault, yeah. | |
| In 19-fucking-whatever, I didn't know they had Christmas cards. | |
| 1921, yeah, yeah. | |
| Wow, I wonder if they cost a fucking arm and a leg like they do today. | |
| Probably, yeah. | |
| For a one-use, single-use, look-at-it-and-throw-it-away item. | |
| No, you're not allowed to throw it away. | |
| It has to live on your refrigerator for six to twelve months. | |
| I've learned that lesson. | |
| Yeah, we had that debate on Gerald Dadza. | |
| See that podcast for the results of that debate. | |
| Yeah, but isn't that crazy? | |
| I mean, it's like obviously this Christian nationalism, again, tale as old as time, but now we get the added benefit of political correctness being weaved in. | |
| But it always comes back to, like, I had a hard time buying a consumer product. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Like, this is the egregious, like, the worst thing that happens to these people is, like, I was momentarily inconvenienced while shopping. | |
| Especially for the guy who's, like, synonymous with capitalism. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Henry fucking Ford. | |
| He's like, I think someone needs to intervene in the market and make sure that what I like is being... No, what about the invisible fucking hand, you douchebag? | |
| Leave it to the hand. | |
| How about whatever demand there is, that's the cards people will make because capitalism, and then that's great, right? | |
| I would think if anyone's a fucking capitalist, it's got to be Henry Ford. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Wouldn't you think that if he thought this was some big market, he'd be like, holy shit, there's a market here that nobody's filling. | |
| I'm going to fill the Jesus Christmas card. | |
| There you go. | |
| He knows it's a loser. | |
| He's just like, yeah, but I will. | |
| Maybe people don't wanna be fucking bummed out by their Christmas cards. | |
| You ever think of that? | |
| Oh, there's not enough Christmas cards that depict the torture to death of a man. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I need more of that. | |
| Hi, happy this. | |
| I don't know what the fuck that would be. | |
| I want a Christmas card that celebrates the birth of our blood sacrifice in order for our Bronze Age war god to be appeased for sin. | |
| But it's cheerfully. | |
| I want one cheerfully. | |
| People just like Christmas trees and shit, dude. | |
| Right, yeah. | |
| It could be a snowman, anything. | |
| Snowflakes, yeah. | |
| Yeah, we're all snowflakes. | |
| So we will see, we, as of yet, we haven't located the OG, but we, this is a good one. | |
| Cause I think by this time, I think he's kind of really summed up what his theory of mind of like us is. | |
| So it's always good. | |
| You know, we get someone, some real analysis of ourselves. | |
| This is therapy hour, Tom. | |
| I know I tricked you into therapy. | |
| This is like reading the results of one of those personality quizzes. | |
| You're like, Oh, tell me about my favorite subject. | |
| I don't know if it's quite as accurate as those. | |
| It is not egregious, word of the day, to say happy holidays. | |
| Oh, we should also set up this was like part of a feud with him and Jon Stewart. | |
| You'll hear a little bit of Jon Stewart because this is like the third missive in this, you know, little like public exchange. | |
| I like that because in that war he clearly lost. | |
| He clearly lost. | |
| Bill O'Reilly was off the air before Jon Stewart was, if I'm not mistaken. | |
| It is egregious to sue school districts and towns if they display the manger or sing Christmas carols. | |
| Are you getting this, Stewart? | |
| Are you hearing me? | |
| You know what I think it is? | |
| Stewart just likes playing the Grinch. | |
| What is interesting this year is that Hanukkah will be over on Thursday. | |
| So there are no more holidays between then and Christmas Day. | |
| Damn you, O'Reilly! | |
| We've been checkmated! | |
| Without Hanukkah, we have no excuse to say happy holidays. | |
| Plural. | |
| Because apparently you can't include anything past Christmas, like Kwan's Epiphany and New Year's. | |
| It's amazing. | |
| I just love that right away already. | |
| This idea that he had this whole gotcha, like Bill O'Reilly, I don't know how many fucking writers he had back then, but they're like, boss, we got it. | |
| They come out there sweating like door bursts open. | |
| They've got the typewritten paper. | |
| We've fucking got them on the ropes. | |
| There's no way. | |
| They're saying you should say happy holidays, but we looked at the calendar. | |
| We've consulted several experts. | |
| There won't be both Hanukkah and Christmas at the same time for this specific- It's like an eclipse. | |
| For this 12 hours, they can't say happy- It's like, imagine- You have to say it! | |
| You have to! | |
| We've got you on the loophole! | |
| Imagine thinking that was a gotcha. | |
| Everybody's walking around just reflexively saying happy holidays, like, oh fuck, oh no, Hanukkah's over, guys. | |
| Hanukkah's over, we can't do it. | |
| Nope. | |
| We gotta change our- Our inclusive language. | |
| Which I love, too, because even in Bill O'Reilly's, like, on his stupid terms, you'd just be like, oh, OK, happy holiday. | |
| You can still avoid Merry Christmas if you wanted to, you know? | |
| Plus, I literally don't know anybody that doesn't wish people a Merry Christmas. | |
| Jewish people maybe? | |
| No, even they often do. | |
| It just doesn't matter. | |
| Eli buys us Christmas presents over here. | |
| Everybody I know says Merry Christmas. | |
| It's fine. | |
| It's totally fine. | |
| And it's also perfectly fine to be inclusive. | |
| It's actually true that They're both fine. | |
| I know. | |
| Exactly. | |
| And nobody objects to it. | |
| Like, literally nobody's objecting. | |
| I did have to look up what the fuck Epiphany was, though. | |
| Me too! | |
| I'd never heard of Epiphany. | |
| I was like, Epiphany? | |
| Do you care to share? | |
| It's the 12th night of Christmas, so it is, you know, just historically it was something that they, in Rome, they started celebrating the birth of Jesus on Epiphany. | |
| It commemorates the baptism, I think, like the magi show up and they give a bunch of useless fucking presents that a baby doesn't need, I think. | |
| The first manifestation. | |
| Yeah, did those MacGuffins ever come back in the Bible? | |
| How did I never think of this for the whole time I did Thomas and the Bible? | |
| Was it like, he's about to be, you know, captured in later, the third act, and he pulls out some frankincense. | |
| He's like, here, if I sprinkle this around, It did come in handy, after all! | |
| Those items never paid off, you know? | |
| It's fucking Chekhov's myrrh, you know? | |
| What are we doing here? | |
| Well wait, aren't the three gifts, isn't it gold, frankincense, and myrrh? | |
| If you're not bringing gold, don't you feel like an ass? | |
| The first one's an Amazon gift card. | |
| The other guys must have been like, you're just gonna use the gold to buy the frankincense and myrrh anyway? | |
| Come on, man. | |
| It's like if you give somebody slippers and then they're like, oh, and your present's outside and it's a fucking Lexus with a bow on it. | |
| And you're like, fuck. | |
| Oh, fuck. | |
| Imagine a donkey with a bow on it. | |
| Even then they're like, these fucking assholes. | |
| No one gets anyone a donkey for fucking Christmas. | |
| Oh, you're gonna just buy a donkey without consulting your wife and even being like, is this the donkey you like? | |
| Tell me that donkey was not a lease. | |
| If that donkey was a lease, that's throwing donkey money away. | |
| Is this the color of donkey you wanted, hon? | |
| I'm just gonna choose all that by myself and then drive it over here and put a bow on it and then you come out your two million dollar house and see that there's a fucking fresh donkey out there. | |
| But you have to ride the donkey over so then it's racking up miles and it's not as good as a new donkey. | |
| Yeah, it's not even a fresh donkey. | |
| Oh, donkey meters. | |
| Yeah, and it's not at zero anymore. | |
| And then really getting the right trim level on the donkey is hard to do. | |
| It's like, is this the touring level? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Well, and right when you march that donkey off the lot, it already, it's down 20 shekels. | |
| Okay. | |
| This is, we're entering my favorite part of the video because these fucking idiots, he wants to put on a display of like, oh yeah, I can be funny too. | |
| Oh God. | |
| Oh my God. | |
| I don't think people are prepared for how pathetic this is. | |
| I'll go back a little bit just so we get it. | |
| You can't include anything past Christmas like Kwan's epiphany. | |
| Oh, sorry. | |
| I did want to say like a little tip for Jon Stewart, because I'm sure he's still doing this show and everything. | |
| From a joke writing and argumentative perspective, just stop at New Year's. | |
| That would have been a way better own. | |
| Just be like, hey, you forgot about New Year's. | |
| Done. | |
| That way you're not saying epiphany, which is like, well, I've never heard of that. | |
| So that feels like you're Pulling something I don't know about to make it. | |
| And Kwanzaa, which the right is going to dismiss anyway. | |
| Yeah, or Kwanzaa maybe, but like, you nailed him with New Year's. | |
| Why are you gilding the lily with things that actually made your point worse? | |
| So I hope he gets this, you know, and maybe he can improve his show a little bit. | |
| Notes for Jon Stewart. | |
| Yeah. | |
| The epiphany, Stewart? | |
| The epiphany? | |
| Well here's an epiphany for you and your 18 writers. | |
| You guys are now on double secret pronation. | |
| One more time, Buster. | |
| One more time. | |
| And you are officially voided from Christmas. | |
| With apologies to Dean Wormer. | |
| Now the serious side of all this. | |
| When is he going to tell a joke though? | |
| I'm a little lost. | |
| Now the serious side. | |
| It's so good. | |
| It's the best. | |
| He's one of those guys where his idea of humor is just like saying stuff from movies he watched, right? | |
| Like he's one of those fucking anchorman pervs. | |
| Honestly, that is 87% of boomers. | |
| Apologies to the boomers of the audience. | |
| We'll say that you're the 13% that don't do that. | |
| You can't have me as a guest on your show. | |
| No, you're silent generation. | |
| Tom, you're the one before the boomers. | |
| You always forget. | |
| Tom is old. | |
| He's, you know, his mind is... Silent generation. | |
| Yeah, you're the one before the boomers. | |
| No, they think there were two movies in the 70s that they decided were the peak of comedy. | |
| Like, you know, it's like fucking the golf one. | |
| It's Caddyshack. | |
| Caddyshack. | |
| What was this, Animal House? | |
| Is that that one? | |
| The Jerk. | |
| Oh, Animal House. | |
| The Jerk's another good one. | |
| They've decided for all time, that's all that was funny. | |
| Nothing else was funny before or after that to them. | |
| Like there's men, let's be real, it's men. | |
| I shouldn't have used too broad a brush there. | |
| It's a certain percentage of boomer men Men of a certain age. | |
| That's just all the... You try to tell them any... Oh, I really like... You know what other comedy I like is, you know, any of them from any other time. | |
| And they're like, no. | |
| They can't even entertain the idea that there was any... A joke told that was funny after 1977 or whatever this was. | |
| The idea that he's going to be like, all right, you're 18 writers. | |
| Let me show you up. | |
| Oh God, you ready for this? | |
| You'll see what my 19 writers came up with. | |
| You're on double secret prodation, by the way, is what he says. | |
| You're on double secret prodation. | |
| Doesn't make sense. | |
| I got him! | |
| There's no allusion to the movie at all. | |
| Anywhere reference, but I got him. | |
| Nope. | |
| Okay. | |
| Look, a reference can be something. | |
| I was telling Lydia this the other day, because I was thinking about like, why do I get so annoyed by terrible references? | |
| But I also like to make a good reference. | |
| Tom, I'm sure you appreciate this. | |
| Like, I mean, I'd love your thoughts, too. | |
| The difference between just merely referencing a thing you've seen and a reference that's actually good is like, whatever happened in the movie or, for example, you're referencing, has some implication or some comparison to what you're talking about in a way that, like, makes it a little funnier or reveals something about it or the comparison gives you... Yes! | |
| Like, there's a whole world of difference between Hey, have you seen The Simpsons? | |
| And like, oh, no, this is exactly like that episode of The Simpsons. | |
| So if we do a little bit of a reference to that, it's still not like the peak of comedy or anything, but you're at least doing fucking something. | |
| Look, my brother for Christmas, we celebrated Christmas with my family last week. | |
| My brother for Christmas got a book that happened to be leather bound. | |
| And I like, he holds it up and I'm like, hey, does it smell of rich mahogany? | |
| I thought that was a good reference, right? | |
| I laughed at myself. | |
| I'm like, that is a great joke. | |
| But like, I had a guy that I worked with who every joke he made was just saying lines from movies. | |
| And I'm just like, man, those guys were funny. | |
| You're just repetitious. | |
| You know that there's a- Then you're just making me watch a movie at a time I don't want to watch it. | |
| It's like, hey man, Step Brothers isn't on right now. | |
| I don't know what thing- What if he literally, instead of that, had the movie on his phone and just at random intervals was like, push play on a scene real quick and put it in your face? | |
| Like, that's nothing. | |
| That's what it feels like. | |
| That's what Bill O'Reilly's joke here feels like. | |
| It's just, out of left field, he's like, and he winds up the pitch and everything. | |
| He's like, here we go! | |
| Here's my zinger, you motherfucker! | |
| Babe fucking Ruth pointing to the fucking center field. | |
| Like, here we go. | |
| Here we go. | |
| And then, and then it's like, alright, and now that we've all had several heart attacks from laughing at that reference, now for the serious stuff. | |
| Alright, so let's get to the substance here. | |
| Ready? | |
| Now, the serious side of all this. | |
| It is quite clear to anyone with a brain that there is a war between traditional Americans and secular progressives in this country. | |
| I wrote an entire book on this called Culture Warrior. | |
| I sent it to Stuart. | |
| In order to remake the United States into a progressive nation, the committed left must diminish Judeo-Christian traditions. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| So like all the words up until then, I was with him. | |
| You know, like, OK, I want to do this. | |
| Yes. | |
| Actually, yeah, let's just, how would we, we are all, I believe, progressive people here who are atheists and would want to make a progressive society. | |
| Tom, don't let me speak for you. | |
| Yeah, I'm right here with you, buddy. | |
| Yeah, like, okay, what would be the first thing we would, like, if we're just in a meeting, we made a town hall progressive meeting where the three of us are the only people who shut up because no one's... | |
| No, it's an emphasis. | |
| I don't blame him. | |
| Everyone's depressed, but we're like, all right, we're going to do it. | |
| What's step one? | |
| What would we do? | |
| Would it be like- Oh God. | |
| Well, I definitely would not, what I wouldn't do is get out the vote. | |
| That would be the least important thing that I would do. | |
| I would not do any kind of mobilization or political action. | |
| I would not try to fundraise or get out the vote. | |
| I would, however, probably string up the Easter bunny on live TV. | |
| That is the most important thing to do. | |
| Yeah, that biblical Easter bunny. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | |
| The biblical Easter bunny. | |
| Yeah, totally. | |
| In the Bible, I remember when I read, and the Easter Bunny comes back, and I think he's riding on the donkey, if I'm not mistaken. | |
| I don't know what he paid for that or not. | |
| I imagine, okay, the meeting would go like this, actually. | |
| Lydia would come with a bunch of notebooks and be like, here's what we need to do. | |
| Okay, there's an initiative on the ballot. | |
| We can do it in these counters. | |
| And have binders. | |
| Yeah, and if we get, we can actually, you know, there's a school district here we could run for a spot, or we can do, you know, et cetera, and start from the ground up grassroots. | |
| And then Tom and I would be like, quiet! | |
| Hey, it's the holiday cups from Starbucks. | |
| They can't be I love this idea that he needs to go after Judeo-Christian tradition. | |
| Dude, we don't give a fuck about whatever you do in the privacy of your own home or church. | |
| We care about what's in the goddamn law and government and policy and all that. | |
| That's what fucking matters. | |
| So you're already wrong one sentence in. | |
| So they must get the religious influence out, out of the public arena. | |
| All the so-called progressive countries are secular. | |
| Just look at the map. | |
| Hold on, I love this sentence. | |
| I just want to, I love this. | |
| All the so-called progressive countries are secular. | |
| Just look at the map. | |
| The map that has secular on it? | |
| What is the, what map am I looking at? | |
| I just picture consulting, oh yeah, I see Sweden's, and then it also says secular on the map for some reason. | |
| Look at the map. | |
| You know, I'm gonna call up my secular map, hang on. | |
| It was secularmaps.com. | |
| I don't know when it's been last updated. | |
| Mercator map, what is that one? | |
| You got the Mercator projection, the secular. | |
| I like this one because all the countries are the right size. | |
| You know, they're not like that other one where they're. | |
| Just look at a map. | |
| What map would you look at? | |
| Look at the map. | |
| It's in the books. | |
| Look at a map. |