ALL RAGE QUIT & KICKED OUT?! HATER Came To DESTROY Brian?! HØE PHASE = GOOD?! | Dating Talk 287
Brian Atlas hosts a chaotic episode featuring Lexi, an 18-year-old FinDom server earning $10,000 monthly via a manager, and Brooklyn, who posts feet pictures for $1,000. The panel debates whether women deserve chivalry if they date multiple men or engage in transactional relationships, while discussing heroin addiction, stay-at-home motherhood risks, and minimum income requirements ranging from $120,000 to $20 million. Guests argue over height preferences, French feminism, and the ethics of "hoe phases," culminating in a rage quit after Brooklyn and Lexi arrive 40 minutes late, prompting Brian to berate them for complaining about unpaid labor while conducting a trivia quiz covering Pearl Harbor and Donald Trump. [Automatically generated summary]
Welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.
I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
Sorry that we're a little late, guys.
A lot of people running late, no shows, so forth.
We're just gonna, since we are late, we're gonna just dive right in.
I guess the fade wasn't on.
Okay, go ahead.
Okay, my name's Lexi.
I'm 18 years old.
I'm originally from LA and I moved to Miami.
And I am a server and I am in college.
And what's the other thing you do?
It's called FinDom.
What's that mean?
Financial domination.
So what do you do with that?
You kind of just bully men and they give you money.
Essentially.
Okay, so you are.
How are you finding your clientele?
Tiffany, you got to switch.
They find you.
You got to switch when.
Okay, go ahead.
They pretty much find me.
Like through X.
Okay.
How long have you been doing that?
Since October of last year.
Since October.
Okay.
When did you turn 18?
October.
So prior to turning 18, did you have a plan to start doing this?
No, I did not.
So, okay, you turn 18 in October.
What day?
27th.
When did you start doing FinDOM?
i don't know the exact date but it was it was sometime in october it was was it before you turned 18?
Possibly.
So you were doing sex work before 18?
It was like maybe a few days.
And I don't really consider it.
I don't really consider it sex work.
Are the men being sexually gratified?
I mean, that could be considered like at any, I don't know, like if you're on the subway and like some guy's jacking off to you, like that, is that sex work?
No, that would be a crime, but you're engaging in a consensual engagement with the person transactionally for money.
So work, what do you typically get when you work?
Money.
Right.
And so the way you make money is by indulging men in their sexual gratification.
But it's not like, it's just like weird.
Like it's not like you're right about that.
It's not like, you know, nude or like in lingerie and stuff like that.
It's none of that.
It's like, I don't know.
They're just like being bullied.
Well, do any of them disclose that they are like masturbating while you do it?
I mean, I don't really run it.
So.
What do you mean you don't run it?
Like I have someone.
That's how I found out about it.
Just like through a random on Snapchat.
So you don't, who bullies the men then?
He does.
So I don't really do anything.
So you have a male manager.
Yes.
Who bullies the men?
Yes.
So you are what then?
The face?
Yeah.
So you're useless.
Pretty much.
So like literally an AI could do it.
Yeah.
That's what, you know, there's a lot of AI OnlyFans models town too, you know?
Okay, so you don't ever participate in the bullying.
Not really.
You're not sending the messages.
You're not degrading them.
No.
I just communicate through him.
Elder manager.
What?
Oh, he's like, I think he's like 20.
I don't even know.
So he started pimping you out before the age of 18?
I'm not pimping.
It's not Fin Finale.
Well, you're not prostituting yourself.
Yeah, it's not like that.
In a more literal sense, but he just runs away.
It is a little questionable, though, that you started engaging this when you were a minor.
I don't know the exact date.
Well, this is not like, I'm not asking you to be recalling something from 10 years ago.
This is six months ago.
I'm like the month, but I don't know the exact day of the month.
Well, I mean, you said your birthday is October 27th.
Yes.
If you started posting on Twitter prior to October 27th, offering this service, then you would have been engaging in sex work when you were a minor.
Let's just say it was after October 27th.
Okay, so you've been doing it for, and so you met this guy prior to, was this your boyfriend?
I've actually never met him.
It's just like mine.
I don't even know.
He just texted me, and at first I thought it was like weird, but wait, wait, so a 20-year-old man is texting a minor trying to induce her to start sex.
I just not say minor.
You literally were a minor.
Not after October 27th.
But did he text you prior to your birthday?
I said, let's just say October 27th.
Well, let's, I mean, I mean, there's only three, four days left in the month of October.
Yeah.
So there's a chance it could have been those three or four days.
That's a bit of a yikes, if you ask me, but okay.
So, and I assume you plan to maybe start an OnlyFans too?
No.
I mean, that's the pipeline.
No, but I live in Miami.
I'm around it all the time.
If I wanted to do it, I would have done that already.
I still have self-respect.
It's not.
Well, wait, so hold on.
You make a judgment of OnlyFans girls, and you're here with your virtue in your ivory tower degrading men.
Well, not even you.
I mean, you have an agent degrading men on your behalf via proxy, I guess.
What was the word you used?
You have.
What did she say?
You still have standards or what was it?
No, I said self-respect.
You still have self-respect.
Yeah.
So what is it about OnlyFans that is lacking in self-respect that you possess?
Honestly, I think it's not.
Like, I think it depends if what kind of OnlyFans, because I know that some OnlyFans girls don't post anything crazy.
Like they'll literally post like their feet and make money.
Still degenerate.
But I think there gets to a certain level.
I mean, you could still have self-respect.
It's just online self-respect versus, like, in-person self-respect.
Okay.
Has your manager or whatever, has he attempted to convince you or persuade you to start an OnlyFans?
No, he hasn't.
So he's fine doing this degradation thing, but not exploring other avenues of monetization?
I mean, he has a lot of different girls.
Does he manage OnlyFans girls?
No.
He just does this because it's a smaller niche.
Like, it's not as widespread, I would say.
He just does the Twitter FinDom degrading men thing.
Yeah, it's honestly like it's a good, um, it's a good way to make money as a man.
I guess.
Well, maybe he makes good money.
I don't know if I would categorize it as a good way.
Yeah, maybe not a good way, but you know, an easy way.
Well, that might certainly be true.
Okay, what's the typical, I guess, can you share how much money you make?
Um, about a month, but I also serve.
Um, do you want me to put both of them together?
Uh, just the phone.
Maybe around like ten thousand dollars a month from FinDom.
And you're 18?
Yes.
Okay.
Um it varies though, you know, month by month.
What are some of the things when he it I'm surprised you actually admitted that it's not you who's sending the messages because I don't you think your clientele would be disappointed to learn that it's it's like they're like basically being fraudulent fraudulently induced to homosexual sexting.
I mean, honestly, if they if like a small percentage sees this, that's fine.
Oh, yeah, I mean, I'm sure you're not uh pushing it out there too much like crazy, but uh okay.
So, what are some of the things he would send a guy?
Um, he'd be like, they like to like, I don't know, like they like tasks, so he'll tell them to like go lick their toilet seat or like throw themselves in a trash can.
That's fucking disgusting.
Excuse me.
Yeah, licking disease.
Do the men they'll send it videos, yeah.
He'll like share some of it with me just so like, so I can see.
And I'm like, wow.
What's his cut?
He gets 25%.
25%.
Sharing Money With Friends00:03:37
Okay.
All right.
I mean, you're going down the pipeline.
I wouldn't be surprised if within a year or two.
But why would I do that?
Why would I do that?
It's so below you.
It's not below me.
I'm just saying, why would you?
We're about to do your intro.
I feel like I'm going to pass out something.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Do you need to take a breather?
Yeah.
That's it.
Okay.
How long do you think you need to take?
I'm not sure.
We have.
We have ibuprofen.
We have Tylenol.
Tiffany, can you help her with.
You want us what?
Just sit down and get her.
Do you want to at least do the intro as we're because we're about to do the intro?
Can you introduce yourself and then take the break?
Yeah.
All right.
You're from Miami, you said?
No, I'm from Lost or like Ventura County.
Oh, you live in Ventura?
No, I moved to Miami.
Okay, so but you're from Ventura and then you moved to Miami.
Okay.
And then college?
Yeah.
I'm just community college.
In Miami?
Yes.
Are you.
What are you studying?
Marketing.
Is it your freshman year?
Yes.
Okay.
Introduce yourself, please.
Hi, I'm Chris Love.
I'm 28 years old.
I am a licensed hairdresser, model, and sorry.
Can you repeat yourself?
What?
Just start from the beginning.
Okay, my name is Chris Love.
I'm 28 years old.
I'm from Haiti.
I'm a licensed hairdresser, Playboy model, and a stripper.
Okay.
What do they speak in Haiti?
French.
French?
De parfança?
Ooh.
Quito.
Sidney soul.
Okay.
And sorry, you're from Haiti, but where do you live currently?
Oh, Las Vegas.
Vegas?
Okay.
And college?
Yeah, I graduated.
From where?
With what?
Society's degree.
With what?
Hairdressing.
Oh, in hairdressing.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then, what was the other thing?
I feel.
University?
Yeah, university?
I did, but I got a scholarship and I injured my foot, so I kind of like dropped out and ended hairdressing school.
Can you return for your intro, please?
Okay.
Can you tell us your name, your age, your location, your occupation, education?
Hello, my name is Brooklyn.
I'm 19 years old.
My occupation right now is just like part-time at a retail store.
And right now I'm in community college, just doing the two years.
And then next year I hope to transfer to a four-year college.
What are you studying?
Film and media arts.
And where do you live?
Where are you from?
I live in Ventura.
That's where I'm from.
Born and raised.
And you're friends with Lexi here.
Selling Feet Pics00:07:51
Yes.
Has she, have you done any sort of similar work to her with the FinDom thing?
I don't have my own account, but I've done like a few posts with her and then gotten like a portion of that money.
Have you done anything else like selling feet pics, having a sugar daddy, anything like that?
It was like a few feet pics on her page, but no, I don't have a sugar daddy.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
And how long have you been sort of working with her on the FinDom stuff?
Whenever she started.
So about six months?
Yeah.
Okay.
Interesting.
How much money have you made?
Like $1,000.
You know, I think the thing, the thing with sex work, I mean, on one hand, what's the point of half-assing it, I guess?
Because, I mean, you've already, what's the term?
You've already bit the bullet.
You've already pulled the trigger.
So it's like, if you're going to do it, I feel like you either need to make a fuck ton of money or not do it.
Because like, then you just have the, you have like the digital footprint.
But I'm not going to be able to do that and it's like.
Sorry.
Are you comparing like feet pics to like porn?
Like well, so I continue.
Like, what do you mean by like go all the way?
Like what?
No, so when I say go all the way, even if you're just taking like non-nude lingerie photos, if you're just going to be like, you don't want to be half a gangster, you're either a full gangster or you don't become a gangster.
Now, just to be clear, I'm not advocating that people should be doing sex work or whatever, but I feel like if you're going to dabble, you've already bit the bullet.
Like, I feel like I'm not articulating.
I'm not advocating that people do sex work, period.
But it seems like if you're going to put out the digital footprint of, by the way, I'm a sex worker, like that's, that's, that, you've, you've passed the event horizon.
You've passed the point of, uh, shit, what's the term?
The uh, the point of no return.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know.
There's worse things you can do in sex work.
Like, you could be a Bonnie Blue.
You could, that, that could be maybe the worst thing.
You could be in the traditional porn industry, but it's like, is it worth it just to like perma?
For me, it's worth it.
Because it's like, I got out of my household and I'm still, I'm living what?
You got out of your house old?
Yeah, my household.
Oh, household.
Yeah, sorry.
I lost my voice.
So I don't know.
But I'm just saying, like, for me, it was worth it because I could work as many hours as I could, you know, working my serving job here.
But that's not going to make me enough money for rent nowadays.
Well, so you're making 10K, but my criticism is perhaps directed more towards your friend, where she's been doing this sort of casually for six months and she's made $1,000.
But she doesn't like do it, you know?
Well, she now has like a perma footprint of like she's always going to have the sex worker label for for a thousand dollars.
It's look again, you shouldn't do it, period.
But it's like for $1,000, it's not worth it.
Like, for example, if you're going to rob banks and all you're going to get is like a roll of quarters, look, just to be clear, you should never rob a bank.
But if all you're going to get is like $25, you're a fucking retard.
If you're going to rob a bank, make sure it's like six figures.
Now, again, you shouldn't fucking rob a bank, but if you're dumb enough to do it, it should at least be it's never worth it, but it should be worth it.
In this case, perma sex worker label for a thousand bucks.
I don't know if that's great.
Now, I'm not trying to beat up on you too much.
What I would say to you is, both of you, I guess, you're both 18.
You're both, or you're 19.
You're both young.
You haven't dived too far.
I would highly encourage both of you to reconsider.
Because you're not too far gone.
I mean, you don't have fucking pictures of you getting bukakied and gangbanged yet, as far as I know.
You've done some fucking weird, fin dumb, degrading men shit.
You've sold feet pics or whatever.
You've posted some.
You're not too far gone, but you keep going.
So there's a point here where you can make a, given your age, you're 18, 19, you could make like an affirmative decision.
I'm just going to extract myself entirely from this.
Yeah, the money's good.
You could also be a hitman.
You could do assassinations for money.
You could sell drugs for money.
You could sell heroin and meth to 13-year-olds.
That would get you a lot of money, I suppose.
Or even adults.
That'll get you good money.
You can do all sorts of things that are potentially long, the long-term ramifications.
So given your age, I would strongly encourage both of you to stop while you're ahead.
I'm not planning on doing this lifelong.
That's what they all say.
No, but like...
You're currently a server.
Yeah, and I'm in college.
You're currently a server.
You make $10,000 a month doing the FinDom thing.
How much do you make a month being a server?
It's more for the people aspect.
You do the FinDump for the vibes?
No, not for.
No, I'm saying service.
Oh, you should.
Like, to make connections, like, meet new people.
You're a waitress for the networking?
Yes.
And it's like good to have a routine, you know?
like you i'm not gonna i'm not gonna like fully depend on the the fin dom stuff um so you're a do you are you like at a really fancy restaurant or something I mean, I'm in Brickel.
It's not like super fancy, but it's like there.
You know, all the famous people go there.
But like, is it a, I don't know, what's a popular, expensive restaurant?
Like Nobu or something?
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't really like fine dining, though.
You don't like that?
I don't like working and fine dining.
I like more like, I don't know, family style places to work at.
Okay.
Good times, I guess.
Okay, any thoughts from you?
I guess I never like considered what I was doing as sex work just because it was like feet and then that was it.
Yeah, that's basically it.
But I'm not gonna do this lifelong either.
I mean I'm still in college.
I want to get my degree.
The thing is though is it's it's like you start off selling feet pics.
Yeah, I get that.
Next thing you know, hold on.
But you don't think that I'm about to do a slippery slope fallacy.
Fuck it.
Who cares?
One day you're selling feet pics.
The next you're sucking dicks behind a 7-Eleven for $50 a pop trying to, you know, feed your heroin addiction.
Yeah.
Or meth addiction.
Or makeup.
I think we would have already been there by now.
No.
I don't know.
I live in Miami, like the OnlyFans capital of the world.
You don't know how many times I've been offered how much money I could have made.
So Sophie Rand hits you up and is like, or whoever's still working at the bop house or whatever, if it's even a thing anymore.
She's like, hey, look, come work with us.
We'll make you six figures a month.
The Slippery Slope Fallacy00:04:04
Yeah.
You're going to do it?
I know.
I'm happy.
I'm content with how I live right now.
We'll see.
You're in school?
Yes.
What are you studying?
Film and media arts.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
Hey, I'm Maria.
I'm from North Carolina.
I'm 34.
I work in a warehouse.
And oh, I dropped out of college my junior year.
What were you studying?
Social work.
Social work, okay.
Did you get your associates or no?
No.
Okay.
And you're from where again?
Sorry.
North Carolina.
North Carolina.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
I'm Lindsay.
I'm 26 years old.
I'm from Maryland.
I live in Beverly Hills now.
And I am mostly a writer and a supermodel as well.
Before I have people finish their intro, I do apologize.
I had some TTS come in.
Desert Jorge.
Normally we don't get them so soon, so I apologize for the delay.
Desert Judge donated $200.
Care one does not know the meaning of self-respect.
She's also admitting to fraud.
It's behavior like hers that creates misogynists from nice guys.
Do you want to respond to Desert Jorge?
Yeah.
Like, what do you mean?
Like, fraud?
Because it's a different guy.
I mean, there's scams all the time.
But it's not like an actual scam.
Like, I don't know.
That's actually a good point, Jorge.
It actually is fraud.
It is a scam.
Yeah, but is that like legal?
Like legally or legally?
I don't know.
Well, how about this?
And Adzils, I see your TTS.
I'll get to it in just a moment.
How about we frame it like this?
Well, why do you think he's calling it fraud or scam?
Because the guys obviously think that they're talking to me.
But isn't that what OnlyFans is too?
Which is also fraud and scamming.
But it's like a job.
It's like a legal job, right?
Well, they pay taxes and stuff.
Well, yeah, but mafia bosses pay drug dealers pay taxes.
Criminals pay taxes.
Well, sometimes they hide it.
Sometimes they launder the money, but just because you pay taxes doesn't mean that you aren't – like, for example, even corporations, you'd acknowledge that corporations engage in criminal acts and fraud and this sort of thing.
Money embezzlement.
And they pay taxes.
So just because you pay taxes doesn't mean that what you're actually doing is legitimate in this other sense.
Yeah, I mean, I thought we both agreed that it was like, I mean, not ideal.
Well, there's two components.
There's the actual thing you're doing, which is the degradation, which people could criticize that.
You're engaging in sex work.
You're kind of bullying men for money, which is, you know, a little shady.
But then there's the misrepresentation.
So it's like, you're talking to me, or I'm talking to you.
It's Lexi.
That's your name, right?
Lexi?
Lexi is the one that's bullying these men, as simpish and degenerate as they might be.
You're the one, you're advertising.
It's you.
But the fraud is it's some dude.
It's not you.
Like, for example, do you think, who's someone really famous right now?
Do you think if Timothy Chalamay opened up, not an OnlyFans, but let's say he opened up a membership website.
It wasn't nudity or anything, but he was like, hey, you guys join this membership website.
We'll charge $20 an hour.
Or excuse me, not $20 an hour.
$20 a month.
And per message, you have to pay a dollar or some shit like that.
And it what, and you get to talk to me.
Amish Vs Quaker Differences00:04:47
That's the representation.
You get to talk to me, famous movie, A-list movie actor Timothy Chalamay.
But it actually wasn't him.
It was some minimum wage assistant.
That would be fraud.
People would bring lawsuits against him.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't really feel bad for them.
What do you mean you don't feel bad for them?
Like, they're getting what they want, I guess.
Okay.
Not really.
Well, in any case, that doesn't refute that you are engaging in a fraudulent act.
Okay, yeah, it is fraud, I guess.
Oh, yeah, I guess you can admit it.
But it is.
Yeah, it is a bit, you know.
Okay.
Thank you, Desert Jorge, for that.
We have Adzils here.
Thank you, man.
I appreciate it.
Adzils donated $200.
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Thank you.
Your favorite Brit is back.
Love for accepting my FR on Discord.
As a good observer, the innocence of Chair 3 is there to see.
Just silly.
Chair 1, Muppet and a Bad Friend.
Hashtag Michael is King.
Thank you, man.
Thank you, Adzils.
Yeah, we can fix her.
I don't know about her.
She's too far gone, but I think we can fix her.
We can get her on the right path.
All right.
You were about to introduce yourself.
Yes.
Or you did, sort of.
You're 26.
Yes, my name is Lindsay, and I'm a writer as well as a supermodel.
Oh, and wait, did you hide all those memberships?
Tiffany, what happened there?
Okay, that's you can leave them, but you can unstar these blues here.
Sorry, guys, new producer.
My guys on my new guy, other new guys away.
And you're Amish or ex-Amish.
Yes, I grew up Quaker and Amish.
Right now, I'm mostly just Quaker.
So explain what Quaker is.
Explain what Amish is.
And yeah.
Well, the Amish are usually just people who really believe in simplicity.
It's the same with Quakerism, but the main difference is that we still have connection to technology in the outside world, unlike people in the Amish community.
So that's basically the main difference.
I would also say that Quakerism is extremely diverse.
So you could pretty much be like of any background, have any kind of spiritual or cultural belief and still be considered a Quaker because it's not actually a religion.
It's a way of being.
So more of like a spirituality.
And there are like certain pillars that if you live by, then you could technically consider yourself a Quaker as well.
Wait, so um Quakers don't consider themselves Christian, is that correct?
No, so are there churches?
Not really.
Like we have um, they're called meeting houses, and basically what it's for is for us to like meet together and just sit in silence.
If somebody has like a hard time that they're going through, they can stand up and say something to the rest of the community.
Um, but basically, the whole purpose is that like we're bringing our lights together to make the world shine brighter.
So by appreciating each other in silence, we can understand simplicity better.
Okay, good times.
Yeah.
And then the when you say you were an Amish, what so did you not have like a phone?
Did you not?
I guess I probably got a scope and scale of it.
Well, it was mostly just that I lived inside of an Amish neighborhood.
So like all Amish food, all Amish like communities pretty much.
And then I went to all Quaker schools.
Okay.
But so your parents, are they Amish?
No, not at all.
Okay, so are they Quaker?
Yes.
But you, so you're not Amish then?
No.
But you said you were Amish.
No, no, no.
I grew up partially Amish, yes.
Like within the Amish community.
Amish.
Yes.
And the Amish community.
That would imply.
I think there's a difference between you grew up Amish and you grew up living in an Amish area.
Anyways, okay.
Well, it's just confusing because like the way of living is drastically different.
So like there are horses and carriages, for example.
So like that's why I'm like, well, I feel like if you grow up in a community like that, it's kind of the only reason we really had a car was because Quaker schools are really far away from like those farming areas.
So, you know, all my neighbors though and like the community I was in was mostly Amish.
Zico And World Of Warcraft00:09:22
All right.
Interesting.
Okay.
So not really Amish, but sort of Amish-ish, I guess.
All right.
Interesting.
More so Quaker.
I definitely would stand by.
Yes.
Still?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
But then, and where, where was that?
Pennsylvania?
No, in Maryland, in a really small town in Maryland.
Okay.
And but how recently did you move?
You moved to LA, Hollywood?
Yeah, well, Beverly Hills.
And I moved here like almost three years ago.
Oh shit, wait, hold on.
Let me shout somebody out.
I missed it.
Sorry, Zico.
Sorry, Zico.
We have like perma moderation on our alerts.
So I don't know if you're still watching, Zico.
Thank you for the raid.
Hey, guys, Zico, who's single here?
Really quick, just show of hands.
Who of you want to date a World of Warcraft Giga Chad top-tier mage player streamer?
You would do it?
What about you?
He's is he?
I just don't know.
I would have to like know him.
I have to like meet him.
I don't know.
You didn't give any characteristics.
Zico, are you black?
Hold on.
I don't know if he's a black man.
He's a handsome black man.
I honestly, I've never dated a black guy.
He's a good guy.
He's got good micro.
He fucking will own people in arena as a mage.
He fucking frostbolts the shit out of people.
Hold on, Ziko.
Are you in the chat?
Sorry, I missed it.
Our alerts.
I wasn't paying attention to the alerts.
I totally missed it, man.
Zika, are you in the chat?
Let me see.
Let me look at the Twitch chat really quick.
Thank you for the raid, man.
Guys, if you're joining us from Zico stream, if you even still tuned in.
Oh, he is in the chat.
I do see Zico.
Let's get.
Hold on.
Let me VIP this man.
Hold on.
Give me one sec.
VIP Zico for the win.
Boom.
Guys, if you're enjoying if you're coming from Zico's stream, drop us a follow because look, I know it's I know that guy, he only plays World of Warcraft primarily.
This is obviously not a gaming stream that we do, but I do frequently talk about World of Warcraft on the show, you know.
Like, oh, whoops.
You know, like right now, I'm actually kind of like AoE farming.
And it's like, you know, I'm like AoE farming, basically.
And, yeah.
And it's like, I'm basically like High Warlord, and they're basically like 51 greens in Felwood.
And like, I've fucking got full world buffs and shit.
And they're just like in like dungeon greens.
Wow.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
It's terrible.
I don't know.
I'm trying to relate to the Zico Raiders.
Hey, Ziko, thank you for the raid, man.
Appreciate it.
Hope you had a good stream, man.
I will set you guys up, though, with him if you want to.
He's not as toxic as I am.
He's rich.
He's a World of Warcrafts millionaire.
And he's really good at the game, too.
Okay, good talk.
All right.
Well, you didn't give any characteristics.
You just said all these random things.
He's six foot three.
Okay.
Does he go to the gym?
He does go to the gym.
He's got really good micro.
Like his micro is really good.
You're saying he's good with his hands, is what you're saying?
Yeah, like the micro, like micro manage, you know?
Like you guys know Command and Conquer generals?
Yes.
How the fuck do you know Command and Conquer?
He's got the micro, you know.
Like he's just pawning noobs and shit.
Like three people know the reference I'm doing.
I just like the micro.
Like he's gonna fucking scudstorm you guys like within three minutes.
Oh, totally.
He's gonna load a bunch of technicals up into the fucking, what is it fucking called?
Tell us.
I mean, yeah, Command and Conquer Generals, like zero hour.
Yeah.
So do you actually play the game or you just know the terms?
I stopped playing video games like me too.
Four or five years ago.
Anyways, okay, back to back to the intros.
So you're a Quaker.
Yes.
And you grew up in an Amish neighborhood.
So you would see like buggies and horse-drawn carriage.
Yes.
The whole outfit.
Sometimes we'd have to reenact the pilgrimage era.
Did you?
Or sucked?
Did you date?
No.
Not really, no.
Amish guy?
I didn't really like date for real until probably 17.
Maybe older, honestly.
Maybe like 18, 19.
I feel like Amish guys crushed it.
Amish guys have fucking get mad bitches.
Well, I mean, I don't know.
I guess like, I feel like our way of dating is like completely alien in comparison to what I see outside of our community.
But it's not so complicated.
And usually like you go to school or you're in the community with all the same people.
So yeah.
Really quick.
Thank you again for the raid.
Tiffany, pull up Twitch.
Pull up the Twitch.
Guys, if you're joining us from Zico, drop us a follow over there on Twitch.
And if you're watching on YouTube or other platforms, kindly drop us a follow over there on Twitch.
Do you have it, Tiffany?
Yeah.
Zico, thank you for the raid.
And then, guys, Zico followers, I need to see you blast the follows right now.
And then if you have a Twitch Prime available, a little Twitch Prime in the chat, drop us a little Twitch Prime if you can.
Zico viewers, drop us a follow, boys.
Drop us a follow.
Follow us.
We talk about World of Warcraft, you know.
Let me, I'll do one more World of Warcraft question after I see like you guys spamming the follows there.
So, yeah, drop us a follow, guys, if you're enjoying the stream.
Drop us a prime sub.
Also, we're over you said you stopped playing video games whenever.
Isn't World of Warcraft like a PC game?
Yeah, that's a video game.
PC games are video games.
Would you consider that a video game?
Okay, absolutely.
I mean, PC games.
I don't know if you'd consider self-I guess, yeah, yeah.
Cell phone games would be video games.
Um, console, PC, it's all under the umbrella of video games.
Uh, one question: who here would date a guy who is like a hardcore raider?
Raider, yeah, in like classic World of Warcraft.
So, he's got like three 60s, uh, and he's in a hardcore raiding guild.
So, like, they're they're taking all the world bosses, they're fighting for them, anyways.
And he's he, he's uh, the main tank for his guild.
That's a lot of dedication.
He's got pryo on you know, all the good loot.
He's he gets the first DFT, Drake Fang Talisman.
He gets the first DFT.
He's gonna get Thunder Fury.
He has dibs on Thunder Fury.
He has dibs on Acuria from Ragnaros.
He might also go Daggers because Daggers is really good for tanking.
So, he's gonna get Perdition's Blade.
He's gonna get what's the other one they like to take?
The one from, oh my Can't believe I'm blanking on it.
From the boss right before Ragnaros, I'm blanking on it.
The Corehound Tooth.
He's gonna take Corehound Tooth, and then in Nax Ramis, he's gonna definitely take Gressel.
He's gonna take Gressel, he's gonna take Gressel.
So he plays like I understand a lot of people.
Would you date a guy who plays 10 hours of video games a day?
Is what I'm trying to say.
What does he do for the other 14?
Sleep.
He sleeps.
He sleeps and plays video games.
Yeah, he pretty much wakes up.
He streams for 10, 12 hours.
Yeah.
So he's like to make money?
No, he's a streamer.
Usually they make like a lot.
He doesn't have the fame that Zico does.
Not everybody can ascend to the World of Warcraft streamer god tier list like Zico, but he gets like 300, 400 viewers a stream, like concurrent per stream, you know?
Like, would you date that guy?
I just don't know.
I need to know who he is.
It's so big.
Yo, Zico, are you in the chat?
Okay, Zico, somebody.
I just need to know about who he is.
Zico, somebody who's a World of Warcraft streamer who gets 400 concurrent viewers who streams 10 hours a day.
How much money is he making a month?
Tell me, Zico.
Tell me, Zico.
In the chat.
How much money is a guy who's making few who has 400 viewers streaming 50 hours a week?
How much is he making?
What he might make like, what, 10K, maybe?
Zico says he, I don't want any of them.
I'm loyal to Chloe.
He's making 8,000 a month.
And look, you know, maybe he breaks through, you know?
Maybe he gets a collab with Zico.
Maybe he does something with Payo.
Maybe he does something with Soda Poppin.
Maybe he does something with Ampy.
I'm an Ampi.
I like Ampi.
How Much Does A Streamer Make00:02:38
I don't know any of you.
I'm an Ampi fan.
That guy's a great raid leader.
Great guild leader.
I only watched Clavicular.
I don't watch anything.
Yeah, that guy does not play World of Warcraft, that's for certain.
All right, Zico, thank you again.
Okay, back to this.
Introduce yourself, please.
Hi, I'm Veronica.
I'm 23.
I'm originally from Michigan.
I live in LA now, and I'm an actor and a model.
Okay.
School or anything like that?
I went to a film acting school, yes.
You got a bachelor's degree?
No, it was just like a six-month program specifically for acting.
Did you say college?
Oh, no, I didn't go to university.
No college?
Okay, what about you?
Intro for you?
So, my name is Letitia.
I am French originally, and I live now in the mountains in Mamos Lakes, California.
And what do I do?
I am a professional organizer and a feng shui consultant.
And I haven't been to school.
Age?
42.
42.
Okay.
And you said you did school?
Yeah.
I did go to high school and then.
College?
No.
I went to work.
And so you're from, you were born in France?
Yes.
What city?
Chamuny.
Chamuny.
Yep.
Acebiença.
Citribien.
Citribien.
Escutu a tua.
Holy shit, I need to work on my French a little.
Yep.
Escutu a.
I don't know.
Have you been to Bordeaux?
Yes, I have been to Bordeaux.
Ace Bienza?
Trebien?
Both.
Okay, what about you, Julia?
My name is Julia, 34 years old from Denver, Colorado.
I work for a SAS tech company, and I went to school.
I did my associates at the New Mexico Military Institute, and then I did the rest of my undergrad at the Colorado School of Mines studying petroleum engineering.
The New Mexico military.
So were you in the military?
No, I was prepping for the Air Force Academy, but then I got accepted into the School of Mines and decided to stay a civilian.
Okay, interesting.
Interesting.
All right.
Well, that's everybody's introduction.
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There it is, folks.
I guess I'll do.
Oh, we have a TTS here.
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Claim donated $200.
Can we ask Chair 5 what is the inner light?
And for all of them, is height or money more important?
Where is Andrew?
Well, you know what?
We have Rachel Wilson coming, Andrew's wife, next week.
We have a debate on Saturday.
This is a good time to announce it.
We have a debate on Saturday, the 28th.
That'll probably be around 3:30 p.m.
And then we're going to have a dating talk with Rachel on Sunday, the 29th.
So we will have one of the Wilsons, one of the Wilsons here.
So what is inner light?
Well, basically, it's like your ability to cultivate joy within yourself.
Basically, getting to a place in your life where you can feel fully happy with who you are, what you believe, and the trajectory you have moving forward.
And then with that groundedness, you're able to pretty much project a positive light.
So the light is just a radiance of positivity that comes from your own internal growth, essentially.
All right.
I have no idea what you just said, but I love that.
All right, guys, we're going to do, before we get into everyone's relationship status, we're going to do the intro that I postponed to get everybody introduced more quickly.
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Yeah.
There you go.
There it is, folks.
All right.
Thank you guys.
Much appreciated.
Okay, back to the panel here.
Okay, going around the table.
Tell me your relationship status, please.
Single.
For how long?
Like almost forever.
Almost forever.
Well, I had like a short one-month relationship when I was 16, and that's it.
So is that the longest period of time you've ever seen a guy was one month?
No, I've like talked to actually probably.
Well, let's incorporate all talking stages, all um situationships.
What's the longest anything you've had?
Um, probably a month on actually, maybe like two months.
Okay, like January to like March.
So you've been single how long, I guess?
Um, like two years, but it was only a month you were have you have you ever said I love you to a guy?
Yeah, just him.
The high school relationship, yeah, okay.
Um, has a guy ever said I love you to you?
Yeah, that's why I said it.
So you didn't mean it, not really.
I mean, yeah, you guys were dating for a month.
Exactly.
It was kind of, it just caught me off.
He said it.
So, I mean, yeah.
Okay.
Uh, and you, when did you move to Miami?
Um, the 1st of January, January 1st.
So, you've been there for about three months.
Almost one month.
Two and a half.
Wait, January, February, middle of almost three months.
Okay.
No, no, no, it's almost April.
So, like three and a half, right?
Oh, boy.
No, less than three.
Hold on.
Hold your fingers up like January, February, March.
We're not with March.
We're like in the middle.
But we're not.
It's like March.
Isn't it March right now?
Yeah.
March.
So is that not three months?
And like, no, because we still have like another week.
It would be three months.
At the end of March, it would be like three and a half months, right?
No, it would be two and a half months.
Am I being gaslit right now?
No.
No.
I wouldn't object if you said three months, because it's almost three months, but it's definitely not three and a half.
Okay, but it's like, okay, January, around 30.
I don't even know how many days are in each month, but around like 30 for each one, right?
30, 60, 90, and then like 100 something right now.
So it's like three.
You know what?
I changed my mind.
Maybe sex work is the only option for some.
Is this last fucked January?
One month.
Yes.
February.
Second month.
Yeah.
And then we're partially through.
I mean, that's two and a half months.
Wait, maybe you're right.
Yeah.
Guys, I'm sorry.
It's okay.
It's all right.
Okay.
It's been a long week.
Yeah.
So, okay.
Have you been dating any guys in Miami?
No.
So you've been cooked there.
You've been celibate?
Yeah.
How long have you been celibate for?
Maybe like six, six months?
Okay.
You don't believe me?
Not really.
Why?
Sort of kind of almost sex worker.
That's not my life.
Living in Miami.
Do you party?
Yeah.
Do you drink?
Yeah.
Do you do drugs?
No.
Cocaine?
No.
Weed?
No.
How often do you party?
Maybe like a few times a week.
Are you on any dating apps?
I was.
Do you go to house parties?
No, it's like clubs there.
And you've been celibate for six months?
Yes.
I just like to go to have fun with my girlfriends.
What?
You don't think you can go to clubs?
Ask her.
She knows.
Yeah.
Of course, your friend is going to rap.
Yeah, but we just went out last night and it's like we just go to have a good time.
Well, I'm not saying you fuck every night.
No, you don't need a like.
Guys are so gross.
Most guys are so gross.
What are you?
I don't think I'm gross.
I didn't say you were.
I was just asking what you are.
I'm me.
I don't know.
Can women be gross?
Yes.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
What does it take for a woman to be gross in the way that whatever you're attributing to the man being gross, maybe it doesn't have to be symmetrical.
Maybe it doesn't.
How can women be gross?
I mean, I was like talking about how guys mostly just want to fuck and a lot of them are ugly.
What do you mean a lot of them are ugly?
What percent of them are ugly?
Probably, like to me personally, probably like 90% of guys are ugly to me.
Now, are you talking when you're like daytime or are you talking in the club where it's probably people your age?
What do you mean during the daytime?
Like well, if you're going to Trader Joe's, you're going to see a 60-year-old dude, and it's like, of course, you're not attracted to a 60-year-old.
Yeah.
I mean, the guys.
I'm assuming the guys at the club are pro you're going to like under 21 clubs, right?
Or do you have a fake ID?
Of course there's a fake ID.
Well, don't they have to say that?
Don't they don't they have like not like underage, but 18 and over clubs?
Yeah, they do.
Okay, but you go to the.
I go to all of them.
Okay, so you have a fake.
Okay.
Are the 18 and over clubs just like not?
I don't know.
I mean, there's like one called Space and it's just like more like EDM music and it's not really my vibe.
Well, I guess they can't serve alcohol, right?
So I think they do, but they might have like a bar where you can like you have to go buy it and show yourself a bad thing.
Not if you're, I mean, show your ID there, right?
Yeah, you need like a wristband.
Yeah, you have to.
Probably there's people over 21 who go to the 18 plus clubs or whatever.
Yeah.
They want a younger person, probably.
Okay, so.
All right.
What about you?
Relationship status?
I'm single, but technically not really.
Wait, hold on.
Let me go back to my question.
What makes a woman gross?
Wait.
Because you're like, ah, the guys, they're so grown.
I mean, girls usually don't use guys for sex.
I mean, there definitely is, but it's like guys have a higher sex drive.
You know, they're trying to fuck girls more than girls are trying to.
I mean, girls are afraid of that.
Yeah, I'd be willing to.
I'd say, generally speaking, I'd be willing to grant that men are more sex motivated.
Yeah.
Of course, there are women who will like fuck a guy once and they just wanted the one night stand.
But what do women use men for?
I think women most of the time don't use a man for anything.
Really?
No, they do.
Definitely do.
Most of the time, they definitely do.
Before I give my money, but like, I don't use that high of a percentage of women using men for money, honestly.
What percentage?
I don't know the numbers, but I just like the people I know, like, they would not use a man for money.
Like, it's more for a genuine connection.
The people you know?
I was like, no, I know a lot of people like that.
I can't even lie.
Easily go on, you know, like seeking arrangements or something like that and look for a sugar daddy, and that's using a man, but they would rather not do that and find someone they actually like.
Right?
Anyone could have a sugar daddy if he really wanted it.
Have you ever gone on a yacht?
Yeah.
Was it your yacht?
No.
Did you or your girlfriends charter the yacht?
Charter it?
Did you pay for the yacht?
No.
So you've been on a yacht?
Have you ever been on a yacht that was chartered by a woman?
Yeah.
100%.
Yes.
Okay.
How many times have you been on a yacht in Miami?
Maybe like three, three times.
Okay, and was it a guy who either owned the yacht or they were throwing a party?
Yeah, definitely like two of them, but one of them was like a streamer yacht.
So I don't think it was like, I don't know.
It could have been owned by a man or a woman.
I'm just curious, but you do Findom.
None of your friends do FinDom?
They do.
Okay, so wouldn't that be using men for money?
Yeah, I guess.
But like, I'm saying like in real life.
That is real life.
No, that's online.
I'm saying in person.
I don't see the, I don't understand.
No, no, you're asking if I'm at the club or like looking for well, no, I was asking if the ways in which women use men, whether the mechanism is you're like finessing men in person versus, I don't care about the distinction.
You're saying, why are women gross?
Or like, what makes a woman gross?
Sure.
Yeah.
So I just.
Using men, and you said using men for money, but you're doing the carve-out.
You're saying, well, when women use men for money, but it's online, that doesn't count towards their grossness.
That doesn't count.
But they're still using the men for money.
I guess.
I guess.
I mean, I would all, do any of the women, other women on the panel want to weigh in?
What are some of the other things?
Women use them for money, for validation.
Probably is number one, validation, avoiding loneliness, which maybe is the same thing.
But I don't know.
I just know a lot of women who use men in many different ways.
Sex.
Attention.
Yeah.
Women use men for.
I mean, I'm not saying I think.
I know they do.
I have friends who do it.
Yeah, all types of stuff.
Yeah, this is real life.
Like, that does happen.
I mean, you didn't mention validation.
Women definitely use men for attention.
Hey, Tiffany, I need you to close both those doors.
Do you know how to close that back one?
Hold on, close the back one.
Yeah, no, the back one.
There we go.
There's a no no no no Tiffany there's a thing on the side there's a thing on the side that that to lock it okay you guys talk among yourself Okay guys um how's everyone feeling?
I'm chilling honestly I'm fascinated by this door now Are you feeling better better?
Did you take medication?
I'm like, I don't know my name is I think the shot made my like heart race fast oh yeah I don't trust that stuff man.
That's why I love to mention that stuff.
Oh, nobody could carry the conversation for 10 minutes while I stepped away.
So anyways, back to this.
Well, I was just more so curious what you had to say.
Well, I mean this whole thing.
Yeah, I mean it was the attention.
Women use men for attention.
Women use men for validation.
I mean the big reason.
I think one of the big reasons women go to the club is you get attention from men there, and I'm not saying you're even trying to fuck them, but men come up to you, they flirt with you, they stare at you, they you, you derive a lot of women when they go to the bar or club, derive like a sort of I'm important, look at these men who want me.
Also, there's a sort of like sadism that's associated with it, where you're like rejecting these men and that makes you feel like you're you're so, above all these men ew oh, my god yeah, get away, fuck off.
So there is a component there.
Um, and I think the other thing on dating apps, women will use dating apps for entertainment.
They have no genuine not all women, to be clear.
Some women have, to some degree, a genuine intention of meeting somebody.
You'll use dating apps for attention.
You won't have a genuine intention of like matching with these guys and meeting up with them.
It's like, look at all these guys who are matching with me.
I'm gonna use it as entertainment.
It's like a video game to me.
Look at all this, all these matches, all these guys are trying to me.
That's a?
I don't think that's most women.
Yeah, I don't think it's most women.
I think it's most women.
On dating apps, you think they use it for attention.
On Tinder, the majority of women.
Yeah well Tinder, I think it's everybody.
Go on, go on him.
I don't even think that's like a gender sign, even on him.
I think it's just people.
Yeah yeah, Tinder is like the worst.
I did know this girl though, and she was like, oh my god, like I got like 10 000 match it, like 10 000 guys want me, and I was like, okay, it's not.
Look, i'm not saying all women use dating apps for that, but i'm saying that's one of the mechanisms in which they uh, they use men for attention, they use men for validation.
So it's like, whereas men men now, why do men go to the club, do you think?
Uh, I mean, they're either gay or they're trying to get girls.
Yeah, that's what i'm saying.
Guys are gross at the club.
I feel like a lot of people would not be inherently gross for a man to to want to pursue you.
No, because it's not pursuing, it's just trying to.
Yeah, that's still pursuing actual pursuit.
Okay, so i'm just.
Yeah, you're just a piece of meat in the club.
It's a club, though I don't know what people are expecting.
It's nightlife.
Yeah, nightlife is like the worst place to be if you want anything of quality.
Yeah, it's not like i'm going to the club to look for my husband exactly probably not.
But I mean, women definitely go out to parties and these sorts of environments.
Uh, i'll admit partially to have fun.
Maybe it's even the majority, but maybe maybe it's 20 30 40, 50.
There is this other component of maybe i'll meet somebody, and I believe this because, if it was actually the case that women just wanted to go out, oh my god, these men are so annoying and and they're that they're, they're hickross and they're hitting on me why not just stay in with your girlfriends?
Don't have to wait in some fucking bullshit line.
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Play what.
You don't need a line.
Yeah, you don't have to wait.
I mean, you don't need to wait in the line.
Sometimes women wait in the line.
Okay, that's fine.
Sometimes that's not the nightlife just sucks.
Hold on, that's not the core issue here, whether or not women wait in line.
You could, as women with your girlfriends, you can play whatever music you want.
You can dance at home.
You could buy a fucking $10 handle of alcohol instead of paying $20 per drink at the club.
What if I want to meet girlfriends?
Meet girlfriends.
Okay.
That's how when I first moved to Miami, I had no friends, and I met a lot of friends at the club.
Okay, so once you've made the friends, why do you continue to go?
Where would I go?
I think the club vibe is just so fun.
There's like DJs.
I mean, there's cool DJs.
There's good music.
Like, you can't have the same kind of environment in your house.
You can have music, you can have alcohol, you can dance.
Your girlfriends are there.
There is a component of the men being there.
Also, even if it was the same environment, it was a club, but it was all girls.
It would go under, though, because girls don't pay for alcohol.
And I mean, some girls do, some girls do, but guys are the ones buying the table.
Putting the finances, sure, putting the finances aside, I still don't think women would want to go to those venues where everything being equal, it's just women.
I don't think they would do it.
Would you guys?
100%.
I just don't like going out.
Wait, I would not.
When you say 100%, do you mean 100%?
Yes, I would go to the club or 100% no, I would not go.
I would not go immediately.
I would get one person at a time, please.
I say no.
Yeah, I say no too.
No.
Wait, the club with just girls?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It depends.
If it's an event or something.
Yes.
I would try it out.
I love, like, that sounds like it would be such a vibe.
Right?
Like, yeah.
I just hate going out.
I don't, I don't go to parties.
I don't do any of that stuff.
I find it a waste of time.
So I'm like, I don't want to go to anyone.
No one has ever met a guy at a club.
I have.
No woman's met a guy at the club.
I have.
Oh, I've met a lot.
Yeah, I met a guy at the club, and I've also went out with Joe's, my friends, back in the day to have fun with my girlfriends, too.
Plenty of time.
When you say met, do you mean like dated because we met at the club or just like?
No, like, yeah, you meet and you exchange numbers and you hook up.
No, I never give him my phone number.
I'm like Instagram.
Yeah, no, I'm talking about meet, like some guy you end up dating or hooking up with.
Download.
Either that night or down the road.
No.
Really?
No.
Oh, man.
I have.
No, I have not.
Really?
20 years ago.
No, no, no.
But I have like, I met a bunch of girlfriends at the club.
Not when it comes to like a relationship and all that.
No.
So, yeah.
All right.
Okay, where were we?
Relationship status, I think, going to you.
I am single.
Wait, I'm sorry.
One more thing.
I wrote down the note here.
You said 90% of men are ugly.
To me.
To you.
But like men your age?
Just in general.
Okay, but men your age.
Are 90% of men ugly?
No.
Not 90% of men aren't ugly.
I think that everyone has their different types.
Didn't you say 90% of men.
Okay, how about you're not attracted to 90% of men?
Yeah.
Maybe, sorry, I worded that wrong.
Not like ugly.
Just not my type.
Okay, not, but you're not attracted to 90% of men.
Yeah.
You find 90% of men unattractive.
Yes.
Okay.
I think it's really rare.
Yeah.
Like walking down the street and you're like, oh my God, really cute.
Yeah, exactly.
I have a question.
What percentage of men do you find gross?
Gross?
Didn't she say 90%?
Not of grossness.
I mean, maybe like 50%?
50?
Maybe more than that.
I don't know.
What about you?
Gross?
I don't know.
I would say like five to ten.
Yeah.
Let's go around the table on this.
What percentage of men, and let's say, you know, of the age range that you of the age range that you prefer, what percentage of men do you find unattractive?
So you said 90.
Probably like 40, 50.
Say the same 40, 50.
Gosh, I don't know, like 50%.
I'd also say probably 90.
90%?
Maybe 95, honestly.
Maybe more.
70.
90.
Closer to the mic, please.
At least 90.
I'd say only 40% are unattractive, but I would only date probably 10% of those that I would think are just conventionally objectively.
Yeah, that's why I said that.
So 90%?
No.
Yeah, 90% of the attract.
Like, I find 60% of guys, I would say, are, I would just say, good looking, like, easy on the eyes.
I could see why another girl might like him.
But would I date all of those 60% of the guys?
No.
Because it's not just, I mean, who said 90%?
90, 90, 90.
Okay.
Do you guys think that you're top 10% women?
Looks-wise?
Yeah, just looks.
Maybe like 20%.
You're top 20?
Okay.
I would say yes.
Yes, top 20?
Top 10.
Top 10.
Yes.
I'm not in dumped down.
Interesting.
Okay.
Because I think there's something very different.
I think that most men find most women attractive.
Most women definitely do not find most men attractive.
So there's like this big discrepancy that exists between men and women.
Interesting.
I'm curious.
Do you think it's actually because most women are more attractive?
Like most women are more attractive than the majority of men?
Or is it perception?
It's like girls have a, I guess, bigger filter or a higher bar, but then right either.
No, that's a good question.
And I think it's very varied and nuanced.
I think there's a lot of different factors.
So one factor is I do think women tend to be pretty harsh judges of male attractiveness.
That's one thing.
But there's other components too.
To be charitable, I think women do put in, generally, a bit more effort in their appearance than men.
But this wouldn't fully explain the discrepancy that exists here.
Also, but again, to be sort of counter-charitable, the tools available to women are not socially acceptable for men to employ.
So for example, the primary tool that I would argue that makes women way more attractive than they otherwise are is makeup.
That is not, I'm not suggesting men should wear makeup.
That's fucking lame as fuck.
But it's not.
Women will negatively, even if it makes the guy more attractive, conceivably, like most heterosexual straight women are going to look at a guy wearing makeup and it's like not masculine.
You're going to be like, is he gay?
He's too vain.
He's too into himself.
It's going to be like unattractive for most women.
Some women are going to be okay with it.
What's that?
It's nuanced.
I suppose I just genuinely, I guess, even putting aside women's perspective on it, like socially, it's going to be severely frowned upon by your male peers.
So even if women are on board, like, yes, men, put on fucking makeup, put on mascara, stand in front of the mirror like a fucking woman for 20 minutes.
That's not what I'm saying.
Well, that's how long you guys take to put on your face.
A little bit longer.
No, it takes me less.
Maybe longer, maybe less.
In any case, it's not socially acceptable, so men cannot employ that same tactic and strategy.
They shouldn't to begin with.
But so that's the primary way in which women will artificially, falsely elevate their attractiveness.
That isn't actually true.
So women have that advantage.
It's more socially acceptable for women to get plastic surgery, for example.
That's more socially acceptable.
The things that men find attractive, it's more socially acceptable for women to bolster those things artificially.
So plastic surgery, like the, I think the BBL, no offense, if anyone here has a BBL, BBL looks absolutely fucking retarded.
It looks terrible.
Give me a girl with a flat ass over a BBL any fucking day.
She can have fucking pancakes.
Get the BBL fucking away from me.
Disgusting.
Three BBLs, four BBLs.
The fuck are they doing?
But anyways, it's more socially acceptable.
Fake breasts, men are attracted.
Okay, the two big things men are attracted to.
Well, I guess the three.
Face, breasts, and butt.
And for me, labia, I'm a labia guy.
Don't ask me, are you a boob or a breast guy?
I'm a labia guy.
Labia, but, breast in that order.
Oh, if we include the face.
If we include the face.
Well, I feel like these are secondary sex.
Well, I guess labia would be primary sex characteristic.
Yeah, if you throw the face in there.
I mean, lethal face card is like pretty much the most important thing.
So yeah, face, labia, but boobs, I guess, in that order.
But if we're just talking about the, then labia, but, boobs.
Where was I going with my rant?
Fucking, oh, the fake, the fake shit.
So yeah, men are attracted to boobs, but it's like mostly socially acceptable for women to get plastic surgery there to increase your size, let's say.
Like, what are the traits that women are attracted to?
Yeah, and wouldn't that be because men are very attracted to more physical and women, we need the emotional in it.
I don't want to feel like to look cheesy for that, but it's like, to me, in a man, attraction is not only his body, it's not only his posture, it's going to be the way he talks, it's going to be the way he like he stands up for himself, he stands up for me, stand up, like there is way more to attractiveness than just the body.
So wouldn't that be that women are getting all those stuff on their body done because they know that it pleases men better?
Or that's a terrible reason to do something.
No, I mean, I'm not afraid of this reason, and you know, I'm not judging myself for that, but I'm just like reacting to what he's saying.
We are doing all that stuff.
Isn't it because men are attracted to it?
Well, I don't know.
I know a lot of people don't do it because of that.
I do want to finish my point, but I'll quickly address that.
So first off, this idea, I think a lot of women get the plastic surgery for the female gaze, not the male gaze.
A lot of the women who botch their fucking face, like the lip filler shit, no offense to any women who have that shit, that's female gay stuff.
The fake nails, some of the stuff y'all do with your face, the buccal fat removal, that's female gay shit.
I don't know why fucking women do that shit.
You ruin your faces.
What is that?
What is buccal?
Buccal.
I don't know if I miss buccal fat.
It's like the cheek fat.
Women will get it taken out and it like ages them.
And men, like, if a woman has like a little, her little chubby face or whatever, like, that actually makes her look a bit on the younger side.
I'm not saying men like fat women, but if they have a little chubby cheeks, it's like, whatever.
That's cute.
You look like a fucking chipmunk.
But, anyways, so your point was that women get the plastic surgery for the male gaze because men are more heavily invested in appearance than women are.
I would counter that.
I actually think women care more about looks than men do.
And I'd frame it like this.
Not to say men definitely care a lot about looks.
I'd frame it like this.
Of the things that men care about, women have generally care about.
Women have, to some degree, more control over these things.
The primary thing, honestly, look, to be attractive to a guy physically, just don't be fat.
That's it.
That's really it.
Don't be fat.
Don't be fat.
Now, for women, it's that plus things that are outside of men's control.
Man can't control his height.
Man can't control if he's balding.
I mean, there's naturally a man, if a man's balding, naturally he can't control it.
There are medical interventions, but what I'm talking about here is naturally.
So hair, man has no control.
If he's balding at 20, he can't control it.
Naturally, anyways.
Penis size, man can't control his penis size.
So all these physical traits that women care about are really outside of man's control.
Now look, you would say, okay, well, boobs.
A woman can't control her boob size.
That's true.
That's true.
But like, but you can hit the gym, you can train, and then weight.
Women have 100% control over their weight.
And so I think in some ways, women care more about things that are difficult for men to attain.
I agree.
I think when I was in the middle of the moment.
Well, I'm just saying it could be like my perfect guy or whatever.
I mean, I'm in a relationship, but yeah, if he was like not in shape and fat, like, you know, so women care about that too.
I'm not saying women don't care about that.
That's another list of all the.
Yeah, women definitely like if like I'm chubby, women are less into me because I'm fucking chubby right now.
I totally get it.
Like, trust me, I know.
But then, like, I think that's just the baseline, having like healthy, you know, within the normal range of body fat or whatever body.
And also, even on that specific topic, the body fat thing, I actually think there's more leeway for women.
Like, men will accept a wider range in terms of body type and body fat.
Like, because you have the thick thing.
I like it.
Women will like a skinny dude, like Machine Gun Kelly.
That's a skinny.
I mean, he's got a little athletic.
He's tall.
But like, women don't like a like if a guy's just skinny, no muscle, like, women aren't really into that.
I've been all over the place.
Okay, what do we, when we say skinny, though, what do we mean?
Because you'll be like, okay, the guy who did four years of swimming, he's not a bodybuilder.
That's like lean.
Yeah, that's lean.
He has an athletic physique.
No, but some girls.
When I'm talking about skinny twigs.
Yeah, like actually.
Some girls like skin, but I think most women aren't going to be like, whoa, he has a sexy, hot body.
They might still date the guy.
He's not fat.
But I don't think a lot of women see an untrained male body who's just got low body fat and they're like, whoa, he's, his body is attractive.
Pretty unmasculine, really.
Right, I think, especially as women get older, that's gonna like younger women are gonna be a little more forgiving, but as women age, like the untrained male body, that's typically you might still date the guy, but you're not gonna find his body attractive.
Well, I feel like it's nuanced, though.
Of course, there's always nuance, but in order for a man to be attractive, I think he has to have some degree of like he doesn't have to be like fucking massive.
In fact, I think when the guys get too big, a lot of women don't like that.
When the guy's a fucking bodybuilder, somewhere maybe before bodybuilder and like athletic build, you know, even like a little, I don't know, like he fucking did four years of swim in high school or something.
Like, that's okay.
But so, whereas men, we, the, in terms of body fat, there's a way wider range.
I'm like, I dated a wide range as well.
So that's why I'm like.
Okay, but I'm speaking sort of in generalities here.
I do think it is the case, generally speaking, that there men have a, in terms of body fat percentage, there's a wider range that women can fall on when it comes to body fat that men will not only deem acceptable, but deem attractive.
Whereas for women's assessment, not just of acceptable, but of attractive body, it's a really narrow range in terms of body fat on the man.
And there, plus there has to be muscular development.
Men don't require, like, you could take an untrained, like women just have kind of, not all the time.
You could just not be fat as a woman and never stepped foot in a gym, never did a sport in your life.
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And men will assess your body as attractive.
The natural, even untrained female body, more men will assess the natural, untrained female body as attractive versus women will assess the untrained, natural male body as attractive.
Well, even if you're like still a little bit of a thicker girl, like you still have boobs in a butt, you still have curves to you, you look feminine.
If a dude is like fat or too skinny, he just looks like not masculine.
Yeah, is the right term like the secondary sex characteristics?
So like a woman could just naturally have big boobs in her hips and if she's got a good shape, like she doesn't have to go to the gym for that necessarily.
Now, can you improve yourself as a woman?
Can you hit the gym?
Can you do the Pilates?
Can you, you know, get the butt?
Yeah, you can.
But I do think that women are definitely pretty harsh judges of attractiveness there.
I don't know.
I kind of lost track of where I was going with this.
I don't think we're harsher.
I think we're more particular.
As you said, like the buckets for men are quite, it's only three buckets.
I just think it's different.
Maybe a boobs, butt face.
Girls are like, we need the arms and the abs and his hair can't be weird.
The hairline and whatever.
The chin.
I don't know why.
We're more particular.
And I think that's why that results in women finding less percentage of men attractive than guys with.
Well, I mean, there are men who are nearly universally attractive to women.
There's certain male models that if you ask like 100 women, 100 of them, 99 of them will be like, yeah, that's a really handsome, attractive man.
So I think there are universal traits that are consistent.
And these traits can be consistent across cultures, across race.
For the most part, right?
I just don't, I don't spend time with women like that.
So I can't, I don't agree.
The conversations we have about guys are not at all structured in that way.
Well, I'm not making an argument that women are having.
My argument does not hinge on women having analytical conversations about this, but in practice, what do women actually find physically attractive and compared to men?
Again, I mean, I'd just frame it like this again.
Most men will find most women attractive.
Most women do not find most men attractive.
And as we went around the table, we had at least three women who said 90, they found 90% of men unattractive.
So that's pretty stark.
I would say more than that.
Well, yeah, you said 95, 99% of men.
And I'm just talking about looks.
Then the guy actually has to meet all your other styles.
Oh, just looks alone?
Oh, that was the question.
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I have no idea.
I have no idea.
I don't really judge a guy's looks first, so I'm not sure.
You don't judge men's looks?
Not first, no.
Like when you see, like, you don't, you can't know someone's personality.
Exactly.
You gotta do switches, please.
Sorry, go ahead.
Switches?
No, I was talking to my producer.
Sorry.
I mean, like, how do you assess whether or not you're even going to talk to someone without the looks?
I just talk to everyone, honestly.
I mean, whenever somebody comes up to me, even if it's a guy, like, even if I'm not attracted to them, like, I'm just always the same to everyone.
So I can pick up on their energy.
So I've dated guys who are like conventionally unattractive, but like they were so attractive to me because of who they were.
So, you know, that's kind of what I focus on more.
I can't really look at someone and be attracted.
I have to talk to them.
You haven't been on dating apps, right?
I've tried, but I don't like them.
No.
Yeah.
So, on like a dating app, though, for example, how would you know someone's personality?
I don't.
That's why I don't like them.
Okay.
Got it.
Yeah.
I don't really use them.
I'm trying to recall the conversational thread that led us there.
Well, I guess, you know what?
Let's just get back to the relationship status.
Go ahead.
Okay, are you fake?
I am single, but I'm also in a fake relationship.
What do you mean?
Like, this guy takes me to event and I pretend to be his fake girlfriend for his.
Does he pay you?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yo, Troy, thank you for the $10 on Venmo.
So you're like a sugar mommy, sugar whatever?
Yeah, fake girlfriend.
Okay, so do you sleep with him?
No.
Do you perform?
Yeah.
Any sexual acts for him?
Not really.
I just kidded you.
A blowy?
Has there been a blowy?
Nope.
No blowies?
A handy?
Nope.
Nothing sexual like that.
Okay, you're not single then.
Well, is there any guy in the picture?
No, I'm on bumble.
Okay, how long have you been single for?
25, 24.
Age?
So you're 28?
Yeah.
So four years.
Yeah.
Longest relationship?
Four years.
Was that the one that ended four years ago?
That was basically high school.
Okay.
Who broke up with who, I guess?
Me.
Okay.
What's the next longest relationship that you've had?
Is that the only one?
No, probably like a year.
Okay.
I get disinterested.
Okay.
Are there any guys in the picture currently?
I mean, I'm talking to some, but they're not like on my bucket list, you know, that I would like see a feature with.
Are you hooking up with him?
No.
Do you have a roster currently?
How big is the roster?
Probably like 12, 13.
Like you go on dates with these guys or Vegas.
Do you hook up?
Have you hooked up with any of them?
Only one because I was feeling a vibe, but it wasn't really like that.
Do you still see him?
Kind of.
When's the last time you saw him?
Probably like four months ago.
So you haven't seen him for four months, but you kind of still see him?
Yeah.
Like we talk and like.
Does he live in Vegas?
No, he lives in LA.
Okay.
Are you planning to see him while you're here?
No.
That's like four hours away.
Isn't it Santa Barbara?
I don't think he's on your roster, but so you have 13 men on your roster.
And so you, what, see them each once a month or something?
Basically, you're like whenever.
Whenever I want to.
Okay.
Huh.
I have a really busy schedule, so.
So, like, in a given week, on average, how many dates are you going on?
I would say probably like five.
Five dates a week?
Yeah.
And you've been doing that for you've been single for four years?
Yeah.
So you've been doing five dates a week for four years?
Not like not one of those things.
Well, sure, maybe one week you don't see any guys, right?
Yeah.
Hold on, I have a TTS coming through.
Why is it not playing the...
I don't know why it's not reading it.
Uh...
Okay, somebody read it for me, please.
Men are more accepting of women, less attractive than they should be with.
Women have way higher expectations of men.
Yeah, energy, enough money makes you attractive.
Trust me.
Thank you, Clan, for the TTS.
Appreciate it, man.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay, so you go on about five dates a week.
And when you say five dates a week, is each date with different men?
Yes, sometimes the same men.
And you don't sleep with any of them?
I'm not given to cookie just for anyone.
I make them wait.
How long do you make them wait?
Whenever I want.
Are you dating for like fun, which is nothing wrong with that?
Or are you really like seeking a partner sort of dating?
Right now, kind of like fun because the guys where I live is kind of like trashy, so okay.
I'm young.
I shouldn't have been afraid of it.
Do they pay for the dates?
Always.
I don't pick up the check.
I make them call me an Uber.
And do they know that you're like serial dating multiple men at the same time?
Not really.
That's really not their business.
I'm sure they don't tell me anything.
So do they take you to nice restaurants?
What's the typical first date for you?
Probably like a good restaurant.
Like I'm wearing like a red dress, you know, heels.
How much is the bill typically?
I don't look at it, the bill.
If you had to guess, given the restaurants you're going to?
Probably like 100, 200, sometimes up.
And how often do you go on second, third dates?
I would say like one to two.
It depends on like the guy, like, you know?
And you've not entered.
But you've been single for four years, and you seem like you're very successful with getting dates with guys.
why haven't any of these in this four-year time it seems like you just you know one two three dates and it's because you're not the one i'm I'm really, I'm really picky.
Oh, go ahead.
Have any of them asked you to be exclusive or some like anxiety?
You guys are really hoping for the same thing, right?
Yeah, because I can't really talk in deep like that because if I wanted one, I would like find the guy I really like.
You guys are both getting what you want.
Yeah.
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.
Well, I think there's something wrong with that.
What's that?
I don't want to be married right now.
You're 20.
Do you want kids?
Yeah, in the future.
When?
Whenever I want.
Women can do.
At 50?
You want to have kids at 50?
No.
When do you want kids?
Probably like 30, 40.
30?
I was adopted.
My mom adopted me when she was 40.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Well, adopted you at 40, but you want biological kids, right?
Yeah, surrogate.
Oh, you don't want to push them out?
Nope.
Okay, so you're going to have to have you frozen your eggs?
Nope.
Okay.
Well, if you did want to have biological children, look, women can have children in their late 30s, even into their 40s.
But I mean, think of it this way: you're 28 now.
You'll turn 29 soon.
You'll probably want to date a guy for, what, one, two years before you get married.
You want to get married before you have kids.
Then you're going to be engaged for a year.
You're looking at, if you met a guy today not having biological kids, although it sounds like you want to do circles here or whatever, which is really expensive.
You're looking at 31, 32, 33, maybe if you meet a guy today.
Regardless, I do want to have a kid without a man or with a man.
Okay, so you might adopt.
Yeah.
Okay.
You don't want to push out a.
No, I don't.
Okay.
Well, that changes the fertility window, I guess.
But in any case, I mean, women do have a slightly bit of a timeline, a shorter timeline than men do.
But I'm not going to be like, oh my God, once you're 30, you're doomed.
No, women have pregnancies in their late 30s into their 40s.
But it does become harder gradually over time, not only to get pregnant, to keep the pregnancy, but also to find a man that you think is suitable for you.
But in any case, I'm not going to carry the baby so I can have it now.
Sure, but extracting the egg, there's other complications there too.
And then the other component is like, okay, who's the guy that I well, I guess you're down to just be a single mom from the jump then, right?
Yeah, I don't care.
You just adopt.
Who Deserves To Pay For Dates00:16:00
I have my money.
I make my work.
So question for you, though, back to the date thing.
You go on multiple dates a week.
Me personally, I wouldn't even go on a date with a girl if I knew she was dating like four or five other guys.
It's just for fun.
If I wanted to be one guy to be serious, I would stop the other guys.
Yeah, I understand you'd stop, but I would assume that, okay, she's entertaining all these options.
She's just having fun.
Like, she's been on 100 dates at least since she was last in a relationship.
What are the odds that I'm going to be the guy?
I'm going to take her on a $200 date, spend $200 on a...
No.
So, I mean, in your case, look, also you're a sex worker, right?
I'm a dancer.
You're a stripper.
Yeah, but it's not like that.
We dance for money.
All the time, half the time, I don't even take off my top.
Men talk to me money.
Half the time you don't, but you do take off your top.
Only in VIP sometimes.
Okay, but you're a stripper.
You do OnlyFans?
No, I do Playboy.
Which is basically.
I don't take off my clothes on Playboy.
I just do bikini pics, muscle fetish.
Okay.
So yeah, you do fall under the umbrella of sex worker.
Stripping is sex work, right?
Men blast in their pants when you're giving them a fucking dance or whatever, right?
Right?
No.
Really?
You would feel that.
You would see it.
You're telling me in your years of stripping, a guy has never ejaculated in his life.
Well, yeah, I mean, I could be a little bit more.
Look, this is going to sound fucking gross.
Like, I don't know.
If I could probably, if I just started blasting, you guys wouldn't know.
That's so fun.
So, yeah, don't worry.
I've never done it.
What the fuck?
Like, it's not a nocturnal admission.
It's a fucking whatever podcast admission.
Trust me, never happened.
But yeah, you guys, I would keep that under wraps.
What do you mean?
You just wouldn't know.
It's probably happened.
I don't be looking for it.
When Gorlock was here, when I was sitting across from Gorlock, I had an admission.
What?
What?
What's in your dictionary?
Okay, never mind.
You know, mission is just like information you're leaving.
But it's like, why?
Who here does either OnlyFans or some kind of sex work?
Actually, well, you don't even do OnlyFans.
You're just a stripper.
You kind of do sex work with the FinDum thing.
You've sold feet pics.
Has anybody here done stripping or OnlyFans?
No, shaming.
Okay, so just, yeah.
All right, so here's my perspective on this, right?
You're saying you made a point about how the guys pay for the date, right?
You would be upset if the guy didn't pay for the date, right?
I mean, I still wouldn't pay.
He would have to pick up the bill.
He, yeah.
Yeah.
So for women who, and this actually extends beyond women who are sex workers.
If you're a sex worker, I'm not saying you should be mistreated.
You should still be treated kindly and with respect.
You don't deserve a man to pay for the date if you're a sex worker.
I mean, I only dance two days a week and I do have three careers.
But you're still a stripper.
Yeah, because I'm young and I want to do it.
And as you age, I'm stuck in up.
I mean, she's young.
38 grand a night sounds good.
Well, I'm proud of you for the money that you make, but by virtue of you being a stripper, you're a sex worker.
What is it that inspires men to be traditional?
What is it that inspires men to be chivalrous?
Now, I don't doubt, just to be clear, what I'm saying is you don't deserve it.
I have no doubt for a moment that you still get men to pay for dates.
I don't, like, men will simp, men will do all kinds of things, even for sex workers.
I don't think you deserve it, though.
I don't think sex workers deserve traditional treatment because by virtue of what you do, you rub your booty in men's crotches, you shake your titty, they motorboat your boobs and your butt.
And who knows what goes down in the fucking champagne room?
Who knows, right?
That's not traditional.
You're not a traditional woman.
And hey, not all women are going to be traditional.
But I don't think it's fair to have the expectation to hold men to their traditional gender rule of paying for dates.
Maybe you should go 50-50.
I would never go 50-50.
That would never happen in my life.
Sure.
And I get that that can be your standard, and you're never going to have a problem finding men who are willing to pay for dates because men engage in the meta.
So what meta stands for, it's a video game term.
Most effective tactics available, meta, M-E-T-A.
So when it comes to dating, even if the woman is completely untraditional, as a man, the most effective thing for us to it's either neutral or positive, right?
Some women don't give up.
Like, it's not going to be like, well, I wasn't attracted to him, but he paid for the date, so I guess I'll fuck him.
No.
But it's not going to be a negative.
Now, if a girl shows up on a date and you're like, let's go 50-50, two checks, please, waiter.
A lot of girls are going to feel a type of way about that.
They're going to have an issue with it, regardless of how traditional or not they are.
So, again, there's no doubt in my mind that you could go on 100 more dates.
And despite being a stripper, do you tell the guys that you're a stripper?
Not really.
You should probably disclose that.
In any case, though, despite being a stripper, yes.
Sometimes they might know and not tell me.
They Google me.
Despite that, yeah, guys will still pay.
But what I'm saying here is looking at the chessboard of dating, look at the dating landscape.
Do women who are sex workers deserve chivalry?
Do sex workers, strippers, thin doms, OnlyFans girls, or even just they're not sex workers.
Let's just say they're liberal, progressive, feminist.
Maybe they're promiscuous even.
Do these women deserve chivalry?
Starting with you.
I mean, I don't consider what I do sex work, but I mean, I think anyone deserves chivalry.
Anyone?
So men deserve chivalry.
Yeah.
So, hold on.
Women should be chivalrous towards men.
What's the definition of chivalry?
Okay, chivalry are spec, I would categorize it.
The simplest way I put it, I'll give you examples of chivalry.
This is sort of a pedestalizing of women in the sense of doing and taking specific actions that will commensurate with a more traditional dynamic.
So traditional gender roles for men, whereby men will open your car door, men will be pay for dates.
Men will observe this sidewalk rule where they're walking closer to the road where the cars are as a gesture of protection.
It could be getting you gifts.
It could be getting you gifts, getting you flowers.
But the big thing here that we're talking about, though, would be paying for dates.
And I think this falls under at least traditional gender roles.
It falls under chivalry.
So that's what I'm talking about.
I think it depends on what date it is.
I mean, first date.
Obviously, like if I was going on a first date and he wanted to split the bill, I mean, I've done that in the past.
I think it's just like you don't know because you're not dating them yet.
I don't think it needs to be like, I don't know.
I think it comes with time.
Like the guy should pay for dates.
It's like if you're already dating them, if that makes sense.
Well, what about the first date?
First date, I think everyone has their different preferences.
I know.
I mean, I don't mind.
I don't mind paying for what I ordered because I can afford it.
I mean, if they offer, that's fine.
No, but okay.
How many times have you gone with a new guy that you met gone to get dinner with him?
I haven't been on that many dates, but.
So what?
Three, four, five, six, seven?
I don't really go on dates, honestly.
I don't, I've never, I don't know.
It could be mini golf.
It could be a concert.
It could be.
I don't think I've actually ever gone on like an official dinner.
Okay, so you just go to their house and phone?
No, no.
I just like, I think it's just like you are younger, but you're telling me you've never gotten food with the guy.
I've gotten like fast food.
Right.
Does he pay or do you?
I've done both.
I honestly, I've paid for a guy's food before.
But if I was in my simp era, you were dating?
No, it was just some guy I was interested in in high school.
I was just like simping.
Wait, your simp era, you said?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, okay.
The question here, though, is: do women who are non-traditional, do they deserve traditional treatment?
What's your answer?
No.
Yes.
Wait, what was the question?
I literally just fucking mixed it up in my head.
I said it once, and I just repeated it for your sake.
Do non-traditional women deserve traditional treatment?
Do they deserve chivalry?
Do they deserve men to pay for dates?
No.
Okay.
No.
Honestly, I think there's too many nuances.
I have no idea.
What do you mean?
What is that?
You can't define that.
I just don't think I would want to like.
It's a very time you've said nuance.
Yes, because there's a lot of nuance.
Everything sounds black and white.
But what?
Okay, explain the nuance then.
Well, I just think every individual person can find what they're looking for.
I'm not going to tell somebody what they should and shouldn't do or have.
Like, that's up to them.
So, like, if a girl wants that.
Hold on.
Let me ask you a question.
Is there any nuance in the following statement?
Women should tolerate abusive physical violence from men.
That's like, wait, where's the new?
Is there nuance there?
But there's like positive treatment.
Okay.
So you can't make any prescriptive.
No.
I think it's just individualized.
I don't think anybody deserves to not get what they want.
So especially in dating.
Wait, repeat that.
Repeat that.
Like, I don't want to tell somebody not to get what they feel they want or deserve an organization.
Wait, wait, that's not.
Just repeat verbatim what you said before.
That's what I said.
No, you changed the wording.
Repeat it.
I have no idea, obviously.
You said, I think this is the essence of it.
You said, women, women should, you don't want to tell women to not ask for what they want.
Well, everyone, just any person, you know, I can't be the dictator.
I have poor skin complexion.
I'm chubby.
I'll probably be losing my hair within by the time I'm 40.
I'm like average-looking dude.
I want to bang a string of 18-year-old supermodels.
Am I going to get it?
I mean, you could, yeah.
Holy fucking delusional.
No.
I'm telling you.
No.
Oh my God.
You asked me a direct question.
I know people who would, so that's why I'm saying no.
Realistic.
I am being realistic.
Look at what you do.
You have a platform.
It's very realistic.
People do things like that all the time.
I've got like a decently popular podcast, but there's guys who have orders of magnitude more clout and fame than me.
Just because I got Leonardo DiCaprio can bang 18.
I'm just saying I personally know girls.
I'm not banging.
I mean, look, if any of them want to come to me, I'm not going to turn them down.
I'm just saying I know girls who would.
I myself am a model.
Okay, well, send them my way, but until then, I'm telling you.
I genuinely do know people like that.
Well, I'm, you know what?
I'm not going to date like this, this girl who's perhaps a bit more on my league.
I'm holding out for the 18-year-old supermodel.
Don't hold out, baby.
Like, no, I'm an average-looking dude.
I'm fucking chubby.
Like, it ain't happening.
Now, look, hey, if you're an 18-year-old supermodel who likes fucking chubby dudes with poor skin complexion, I just know people are going to be able to do that.
You can hit me up.
That's what I'm saying.
I just, I know people that would.
I'm a model myself, so I just, I'm trying to say, I do.
Okay, let's do it.
I don't really know people.
Tell you what, you're going to be a matchmaker then?
Set it up.
I wouldn't do that.
I would set that shit up.
Oh, she knows some fucking supermodels.
Yeah.
So I wouldn't do that.
You're a supermodel?
Yes.
Okay.
Well, I want to do quality control.
Oh, absolutely.
I've been published in every top magazine you could possibly imagine.
That includes Vanity Fair, Vogue, Harper's Bazaar, in several different countries.
And I just flew back from Paris Fashion Week a week and a half ago.
I love that for you.
So in any case, the nuance thing, the nuance.
So look, you can't make any prescriptive claim here on this.
I just know based off what they talk about, is all I'm saying.
So, but look, people can want things, but do they deserve it?
I think you do.
I don't understand why you feel like you don't.
I mean, if you found somebody who does, are you going to say no?
No.
So, well, no, so but that's already been granted.
I grant that she's a stripper.
She dates a ton of men at the same time.
And I said, I just, why wouldn't you deserve it?
Well, yeah, okay, you do other stuff too, but that's besides the point.
But, and I acknowledge, of course, there are still going to be men who do the action.
Like, for example, right?
You guys would acknowledge.
How about this?
This is, I think, perhaps the best framing that I can improvise in the moment.
You would acknowledge that there are men who are really attractive who are physically violent and abusive towards women.
Do those men deserve to be in relationships with women?
No, but they are.
Yes, but so that's they are.
I mean, we'd look at, look, I believe people can make mistakes in their past and they can move past it.
I would point to Chris Brown.
That's what I was going to say.
Oh, Chris Brown.
He violently beat Rihanna.
He's so annoying.
Now, I'm pretty sure she was.
Hold on, hold on, just to be clear.
100% wrong to do what he did.
I heard, though, she was being a massive bitch to him.
Just to be clear, not justifying, terrible, never fucking lay your hands on a woman.
But she was saying some crazy shit to him.
But in any case, any case, just some added cut, never disavow Chris Brown beating women, just to be clear.
Do you think Chris Brown, even like the fucking week after these allegations?
Well, I mean, he pled guilty.
So I mean, and she was beat the fuck up.
Have you seen the photos?
Do you think he had any shortage of women who'd still fuck him?
But these women aren't abusing anybody, unless do you think so.
Defining What Women Deserve00:14:37
No, but what I'm saying is, what I'm trying to get at here is abuse is completely different than putting your body out there.
You know, I don't know that, but I'm not trying to draw an equivalence in terms of the wrong.
I'm not trying to draw an equivalence of, of course, yeah, like physically beating women is worse than being a stripper.
Of course.
So or dating multiple men at the same time.
What I'm trying to try to draw from you is: can there be behaviors that preclude someone from receiving some sort of benefit or treatment or even a relationship?
I guess I just don't think like when it comes to what they're doing, no.
I mean, I just don't.
I don't, I think that they deserve whatever they want.
It's possible.
It's fine.
So why not?
Let me see if I can frame it a different way.
I the hypothetical, not me.
Let's just do somebody else.
There is a 300-pound obese man who lives in his mother's home and he has Cheeto dust in his fat rolls and he plays video games all day and he smokes weed all day and uh he wants to date like a like a good virtuous woman.
Do you think he deserves her?
I think everybody deserves that.
I mean he's not hurting anyone.
Nobody deserves it.
As long as you're not hurting anyone, I just don't see why not.
Like, you know, it's just like if he did find that person, is he supposed to say no because you find him undeserving of it?
Like, I don't understand.
I'm not going to say that just because you're overweight and you do all these things, that you're not capable of getting a high-value person.
I mean, that's not harming anyone except for himself, of course.
But well, look, if you roll the dice, and this can be in both directions, you could be a complete loser as a woman, you could be a complete loser as a man, and you could, it's possible you could end up with somebody who is from the outside perspective.
This person is like way leagues above you.
They could be better looking, they could be have better personality characteristics, all kinds of traits that would make you seem like this person is settling in some way.
But, anyways, whatever.
I'm not going to beat the dead horse.
Your thoughts on the topic?
Yes and no.
I think that she definitely deserves to get her dinner paid for if she wants that.
If she wants that.
Yeah, she definitely does.
Okay, so, hmm.
Okay, okay, okay, hold on.
She definitely deserves it if she wants it.
Okay.
I, wait, wait, wait.
Let me ask you a question.
I want to fuck women within an hour of meeting them without doing anything.
Just come over, suck my dick.
Do I deserve it?
That's not the same question.
I know it's not the same question.
Answer it anyway.
Well, there's people out there who would say yes, so that's true.
Do I deserve it, though?
Why not?
I don't understand.
Do I deserve it?
Can you say, yes, Brian?
You need not take women on multiple dates.
You want it, therefore, because your argument is: if a woman wants it, she deserves it.
Okay, cool.
I, as a man, want a woman to, I don't want to have to make the first, she has to slide into my DMs.
She has to be like, Brian, when can I suck your dick?
Okay, great.
3 p.m., perfect.
I like an afternoon delight.
Lovely.
Come over.
Then she sucks my dick.
Then we fuck.
And then she makes, she cleans my entire house and she does my laundry and she watches.
I don't know about this.
Oh, yeah, I've got this.
Yeah.
Okay, all that.
I deserve it.
The house cleaning it.
No, I deserve it.
Probably not.
Why not?
I want it.
Do I deserve it then?
I mean, you seem like a good person.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, but serious answer, though.
Sure, why not?
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
Why not?
I don't.
So I deserve.
I deserve.
So I should be.
Hold on.
So now that we've established that I deserve that treatment.
You're going to have to work for it more.
Well, hold on.
Should I be upset at the woman if she doesn't do that?
No, just move on.
But hold on.
Don't change the woman.
Change the woman in front of you.
Why is she not doing the things that I, because I deserve it?
Why isn't she doing the things I deserve?
Because that particular woman doesn't want to.
But there could be someone who will.
Oh, okay.
All right.
I mean, I wouldn't date that guy, but you know, maybe there's someone who would.
Okay.
Can I manifest it?
You can dream though.
Oh my God.
Okay.
What do you think?
Just go on like a porn hunt or something.
Towards the fact that you want to bang an 18-woman model.
With that mindset, it's not going to happen.
But if you put that out there and maybe manifest it, it might.
As far as if she deserves it.
19 is acceptable too, just to be clear.
Okay, at 19, whatever you want.
At 20, she's basically a grandma.
Like, whatever you want.
It's just like, if you want it, just, yeah, go for it.
Like, nobody's stopping you from it.
As far as if she deserves what she's having, hell yeah, she deserves it.
Closer to the mic, closer to the mic.
Any woman, like, and who are we to decide what any woman deserves or not deserve?
I don't know you, so maybe you deserve it, maybe you don't.
But as long as I don't know you, I can't tell you.
I am not in a position to define what she deserves or she doesn't.
But as a woman and as compassionate as I can be for a woman, hell yeah, she deserves it.
And she can get it.
Go for it, girl.
What do you think?
Well, I don't, I'm not the one going on a date with her.
So I think deserve is about worth, right?
Is this a value to you?
Right?
And apparently not.
You're on Google deserve, but go ahead.
So it's kind of the guy's call.
He's like, he's obviously saying, does she deserve it?
Let me give the definition.
Deserve.
To do something or have or shold on.
Do something or have or show qualities worthy of reward or punishment, but that's not what we're talking about.
So having qualities worthy of the reward.
So in order, like, for example, do you deserve, I'm trying to think of an example.
Look, if I was in the guy's shoes, I would look at that situation and say no.
Yeah.
Same.
If I were a guy.
If I were a guy.
It just depends on the type of guy.
Yes.
If I were a guy, yeah, I would say absolutely not.
Wait, if you were a guy, you would say absolutely.
Yes.
For my personal preference.
I would not want to be with someone with that kind of background.
Yes.
Why would she not deserve?
I just wouldn't want someone with that many people around.
No, no, no.
The question is.
It doesn't matter.
Just even.
No, but the question is, so not just you wouldn't want to date her because of that, but why does she, if you were the man, why does she not deserve?
I just, I feel like I understand the male perspective.
That's it.
I just wouldn't want to invest my money, especially if they didn't tell me before the date.
I personally would not want to pay for that person.
It's not even about really like just gender.
I mean, it's the same if it was a guy.
I would never want to date an OnlyFans model.
I can't lie to you.
So I also think for you, if you were paying for a girl's meal, like it's an act of chivalry and it's like, I care about this person.
I want to provide for you.
For this man, it might not really be a chivalrous act.
It might just be, hey, this is maybe more transactional.
Like, you gave me your company.
We had a great time.
You look amazing.
You guys deserve this.
Or in his eyes, you deserve this.
Maybe he doesn't see it as a chivalrous act.
I don't know.
Well, regardless of his perception of what he's doing, from the outside perspective, it does fall under the purview of what we understand as chivalry.
So he might be like, oh, whatever.
This isn't chivalrous.
But it does fall under the objective understanding of what chivalry is.
At least one of the things in which you can do is chivalry.
So ultimately, though, I just don't think y'all deserve this shit.
Because I see it like women hold men to this standard of being traditional.
We have to open car doors.
Now, look, not all women want some of that shit.
The guy has to open the car door, pull your seat out, observe the sidewalk rule, pay for dates.
And I don't see women holding up their end of the deal.
So you basically, you women, in terms of what you want from men, it might as well be the 1950s for how men should behave, how men should act.
But you women are living in 2026, but you keep men to this 1950s bachelorette standard.
And is that fair?
I would say no.
Now, again.
I think if you don't tell them first, then but if you tell them before you go on the date, that's a bit different.
Well, no, even if she discloses, hey, just letting you know, I'm a sex worker.
You're talking about something different now.
She should disclose that she's a sex worker just out of respect to them.
Because some men, that's a massive deal breaker.
They're going to know already.
Well, for some people, most people, they don't tell them.
Huh?
You mean on the dating app?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So most people don't say that, though.
Wait, so how would they know if you don't do you put stripper in your they Google me?
I have an I have like a normal name.
They Google me.
Not all people.
I think you should assume that people will always Google and we exchange information.
How do you propose she brings this up as well on the dinner date through Instagram?
And yeah, tell before the date on the dating app.
Before the date, yeah, under your job, be like that's not stripper, I'm sure that they don't must side request a diet, or like hairdressing is what I do every day.
What makes you more money?
Both it just depends.
I can have a color client and extensions girls.
Okay, $1,200 for extensions, regardless of what your secondary job is.
Uh, you first off on the dating apps, you can list multiple jobs.
I believe so, and you could also just tell them like, if it's not listed on your bio, you could be like, hey, just letting you know i'm a stripper, I don't know.
Um, I mean, we talk through the dm if i'm feeling it, they get my number, they're gonna see it on the page anyways, you do acknowledge that for some men, being a stripper is a deal breaker.
Yeah, like some guys are not for me, I want them to accept me for who I am right.
But so why waste like i'm almost i'm not even totally thinking of it from the male perspective wouldn't it save you time.
Like imagine you go on a date with a guy and then you like tell him on the date or after the date hey, by the way, i'm a fucking stripper and then he's like oh, i'm not interested anymore, seems like it's a waste of time for you.
Like i'm a busy person.
I don't want to like go on a date with a girl and she find out something about me or I find out something about her.
That is a deal breaker, like I want to know.
She did say she's not looking to partner up with anyone.
Yeah right, she's just having just fun.
So what's the point like, if the man is just acting?
Like strippers have sex with everyone, so okay, what's the point of going on a date?
To what end?
Like a guy like I could, for example, i'm not particularly inclined to have one night stands.
I find them fucking pointless.
Same um, I don't do those.
But yeah well okay, I.
So why are you going on the dates?
Like what is the?
It seems like a massive time waste for you because you're not looking for a boyfriend.
She probably likes getting dressed up, having some yummy food, like.
So you're leading the men on.
Then that's even worse.
They know doing the same thing.
They will know if I want to have a picture.
What dating app are you on Bumble?
I got banned on Tinder okay, so on Bumble?
Doesn't it say, how'd you get banned on Tinder?
Stop my pictures, stop.
On Bumble.
Doesn't it say you can put what you're looking for.
It can be like something casual um, not sure Looking for a relationship, what do you put there?
Casual friends, me up.
You don't put casual.
Yeah, I don't want to be dating someone right now.
I just, I'm in my fun era in my dinner.
It's fun to like be on a date to be on your dating app and like coordinating with like 10 different dudes just to go on one dinner date with them.
Like to, I don't know.
Like, it seems like a waste of time.
It's not really like Vegas.
They have a lot of events and stuff like that.
There's like so many things.
Like me personally, it would never occur to me to go just get dinner with a woman and never talk to her.
Like, I'm either moving towards a relate.
Like, the intention is relationship.
For you.
For me, yes.
But I mean, she's not even having sex, allegedly.
Like, so.
But is it actually fun to be able to do that?
Is it actually fun to go?
What makes it fun for you?
I'll be right back.
You guys continue.
If you're having fun, it's like having fun.
I used to drink when I was like 14, 15.
I stopped at 21.
And I used to be a party girl and now just like chilling, going out.
It's fun.
And it's not a waste of time for you.
It's not.
Yeah, you discover many people.
I mean, I don't know, I don't do it, but it's like, you seem like you go to events, you go to nice restaurants, like you just socialize with some people.
Like, why not?
There's concerts, there's like so everybody even.
Can I ask you why I only hang out with them like one to two times?
Like, like if it's for friends, like, wouldn't you want to hang out with them more than one to two times?
I need my space.
You just, like, you get disinterested?
Yeah.
Oh.
Why?
I have ADHD.
I just do.
Okay.
Okay.
She also has a roster of 13, so she's got to go through the size of the game.
Or is it like a new one?
No, I go through the second.
Oh, okay.
It's not like you're a new guy.
Okay.
Yeah, why not?
We are all different.
Men Must Be Proactive00:15:42
We all need different things.
There is men out there that are all different as well.
They all need different things.
Like the guy online, he plays video games for 10 hours.
That's fun to him.
Yeah, exactly.
That's like not attractive to me, but maybe some woman loves it.
So it's just we decide what we want.
And it's casual.
Yeah.
Otherwise, we're both instead, oh, let's keep.
Honestly, as long as there's communication.
If they're looking for a relationship, I tell them.
The morality isn't hard.
Yeah, as long as you don't lie to them and you are not like avoiding to say something just because you want like you have interest in it.
It's like, what?
Well, I asked you, have any of these guys been like, I want to be exclusive.
If they were doing that, then I think it would be the right thing to do.
And I said, no, I don't want to.
Yeah, exactly.
So that would be fucked up.
As long as there's honesty and open transparency, then I mean, you're not hurting anyone.
Yeah, and I think we make a lot of like, especially in those statements and all of that, it's just like we feel, I feel like we are putting all the men's and all the women's inside the same boxes.
And it's like, well, we are all so unique and different.
Like, how can we say that men would rather do that or women would rather do that or we deserve that or we should do that?
Yeah, it's too black and white.
Yeah.
Like I tend to agree with the audiences.
And I know so many people are.
Just like there's nuances to like one dates like that.
It's not just a job description just because you're stripper, you don't deserve anything.
There's other women who does stuff too.
And you might sacrifice for a man too.
It's like, well, if you met the right guy and he's like, well, listen, like, I don't mind about your past, but I do mind you keeping going with it.
Like, if you want a relationship with me, would you be able to stop what you're doing to stay with me?
Like, definitely.
Like some men might not like it as you, as a girlfriend, his girlfriend doing so, meanwhile, you are with him.
Obviously, if I'm in a relationship with someone, I'm not going to go out with guys.
I'm going to stop that.
That's like cheating.
Yeah.
Only one person is really committed in dating.
But if you're just having fun, then who gives a fuck?
Yeah, what's wrong with it?
Okay.
I don't know, man.
It just seems like a really raw deal for men that.
Okay.
I don't know.
Maybe if I frame it like this: if a man is going to act in a traditional way, should the woman also act traditional?
Yes.
Does that seem fair?
I mean, it seems basic, but.
But so what I'm seeing and what I'm hearing is a woman can be bonnie blue having a hundred thousand dicks ran through her.
And I gotta be traditional.
I gotta be a gentleman.
I gotta be chivalrous.
You don't have to.
So, and if we take those men that are doing, I don't remember their name, but like they are doing those dances for women.
So they are sex workers on a masculine side.
So they could be chivalrous with their ladies.
They should be.
So should they deserve to have a traditional lady or should they deserve another sex worker?
Like if it goes for a woman, then it goes for men too.
Like what would they, what would they deserve?
Well, I'm this gets into another really interesting topic: is what do women do actually?
Like what, what, if anything, do women do?
What is the expectation that is uniquely placed on women to do?
Because you say, well, what about the male strippers, Brian?
What about the male porn stars?
So, okay, tell me the thing that women do that we can have the women stop doing for the male sex workers.
Stop doing for the, what do you mean?
Newsflash, I'm going to get fucking crickets because women do jack shit.
No, no, I'm just answering the question.
No, you don't do fucking anything.
You don't do anything.
No, I definitely do a lot of things.
I don't do anything.
I do a lot of things.
Yeah.
I'm hyper-traditional, so I do the house stuff.
Do anything.
Women are not.
You haven't met the right woman, Brian.
You need to meet more women.
You do need to meet more women.
Hold on.
You got to understand what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Articulate to me what a woman can or should do.
I think can is a better word.
So, okay, I get when all of you are six months deep into a relationship, then you'll make him a sandwich.
No, no, I start that on day one.
Then you'll cook for him.
Then you will, you know, help clean his house.
Maybe even, who knows?
Then you'll do things for him once you're in the relationship.
But there's a, you women have expectations on us right away.
My question to you is: what can men expect from women right away?
To bake them something.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm so different.
Not one of you baked me fucking anything.
You should have brought cookie.
And to make you feel the center of attention, to make you feel like you're not a romantic.
Whoa, what?
What?
Yeah.
That's fucking crazy.
You're completely reversed.
Women have that expectation.
Women want to be the center of attention.
Women want to feel like they're expecting to be a teacher.
I am telling you what I was going to do.
Yeah.
I am telling you as a traditional, like, saying, I don't wait.
I would say I have respect for you.
I will like admire you.
I will like give you what you want.
Ask you what would like I'm not saying I'm ready to do anything.
I'm just saying like I would my intention is on you.
I am not gonna see someone else.
I'm not gonna talk to someone else.
I'm not like I'm just gonna make you feel that you are the center of my world.
That's not really, I'm not dropping my life.
Check this out.
Check this out.
Love that.
Center of the world.
She's dating 10 dudes at the fucking same time.
How the fuck is that?
Am I the center of her world?
She says that she's gonna stop.
I will mention it.
So then do I'm dating guys.
Hold on.
So center of the world, she's dating 10 dudes at the same time.
And that's my point of view too.
No, that's not hers.
But hold on, hold on.
So then, should it be the case that she doesn't get her dates paid for until she's exclusive with one guy?
Well, she's honest with him.
He has the right to say yes or no.
And then after that, he decides what he wants to do.
No, but her standard is: if you don't pay for the date, it's over.
She's not going to continue seeing the guy.
Well, for now, she's just having casual reactions.
Okay, so can a guy do that same leverage trick on her?
Okay, if you want me to pay for the first date, you can't go on any dates.
I'm not the one who's asking you.
I had dudes say that.
I'm not the one who's asking.
I've had dudes say that.
I'm the one who asked you.
Type of stuff.
So?
Men should be.
Okay, hey, I want to take you on on a date, but here are my conditions.
If we're going to date each other, there can't be other dudes in the picture.
If you're seeing other dudes, it has to be a wrap.
You can't be like from our first date onwards, you can't be going on other dates.
That's not what I mean.
I'm saying if I'm in a relationship with someone, I'm not going to keep seeing other people.
Right now, it's just casual, fun, you know.
Great.
So men should not pay for dates until they're in a relationship then.
Men should pay for the date if they asked a girl out.
Have you ever asked a guy out on a date?
No.
And you're 28 years old.
So it's like, great, that's a great little trickery that you're going to be.
Now I'm doing man dominance.
I don't want to be a man.
Right, but the argument that you forwarded is whoever asks should pay for the date.
This conveniently ignores the fact that 99% of all dates that ever have been and ever will be, 99% of them are initiated by men.
That's how it should be.
So when women, right, but I would be willing to accept the whoever asks should pay thing if women asked men out at comparative rates.
Maybe it doesn't have to be 50-50.
It could be 40-60.
Men ask out 60% of the time, but women will do their share too.
Then I could get behind whoever asks pays.
But when women have the privilege of just sitting back and letting men come to them and waiting to pick from the men that pursue them, then nah, whoever I should pay, it ignores this component of women don't initiate.
Women don't approach generally.
Women don't initiate.
Women don't ask men out for dates, at least at the same rate that men do.
And so when women start asking men out at 50-50 rates, then we can talk about whoever I should pay.
Because as a woman, you could never ask, you're 28, you've probably been on 100-plus dates.
You've never asked a guy out in your life, right?
You've never paid a date on your life.
I mean, I picked a single case.
If we put you in a male body, you would be a 28-year-old virgin.
If we put you in a male body, you've never fucked a woman ever.
What?
Okay, so what I'm trying to say here is, as women, you can be passive and men still come.
Men have the burden of initiative.
Men have the burden of pursuit.
Now, I'm not saying sometimes a woman, you might see a guy you fancy, you'll shoot your shot, you'll slide the DM.
Women do do that, but the experience for most men, I'd argue most men, especially average men, like an average woman, bro, average women, if they want to, they can fuck a lot.
But you take an average guy, the guy who works at Walmart, like the chick that works at Walmart, the chick that works at Chick-fil-A, she could be a massive slut.
The dude at Walmart, that guy's not fucking.
Maybe a little bit, but he's not like fucking the same way a woman who works at Walmart can be fucking.
The point I'm trying to make here is: if men, if things stayed the same in terms of if men acted like women, where it's like, I'm going to sit back and let men come to me, whether that's on internet, dating apps, or in person.
I don't force them.
No, I know, I know.
The men do it willingly.
I'm not saying you force anybody.
They can.
But if I was a man and I did what you do, which is not initiate, and you wait for men to come to you and you put a man in your body, you would be a 28-year-old virgin.
No, what?
If you're an actual person.
If I go to a bar, if I go to a bar, me, or you could put another guy in a bar, he could go out 20 nights.
No women are coming to talk to him.
No women, if I go to a bar, go to a party, I'm just kicking it with my drink.
I could even be vibing.
Oh my God, this fucking dog shit music is so good.
No women are going to be like, what's up, bro?
Want some pussy?
No, women don't do that.
Women don't do that.
So like as a guy, you go out to these environments, or it could even be a dating app.
I go on a dating app and I don't send the first message.
I don't.
Women sometimes send the first message.
I believe women on dating apps have your own bumble, right?
Yeah.
Question: Do they, it used to be on Bumble.
I haven't been on dating apps in like years.
On Bumble, the woman had to message first.
Is that still the case, or is it?
No.
So the man, okay, that's fine.
The one app where women had to message first.
They have to answer a specific prompt.
Like they can't just message you and say, what's up?
You have like a few prompts that if they want to reach out first, they can answer specific questions.
Men can reach out first and women can reach out first on Bumble now.
Women can reach out first with whatever they want.
Hey.
But if a guy wants to reach out first, he has to choose from a list of retarded.
Or like you're going to be able to do that.
Wait, so hold on.
Wait, so there's like a prompt, like, what's your favorite color?
Or like, caption this picture of my dog or something.
And so women can just send a hay and not answer a prompt.
Men have to answer a prompt.
That's so fucking funny.
I think it should be the.
I wonder why.
Well, in any case, I remember when I was on Bumble before they made the Switch, where only women could message first.
And women, the one app where women have to take the initiative, this is what women did on Bumble.
Hey, how's it going?
And then, so I call it token initiative.
And then they immediately push back the entire initiative burden and conversational burden right back onto the man as if you had met on any other dating app.
So it was super fucking stupid.
It's still stupid though, because now the men can't just, I mean, saying hey is a bad way to open on the dating app, but that's besides the point.
Where the fuck were we?
We were out dating lines.
Dating like ours.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Who should who should pay or whatever?
Yeah, I don't know.
Idea, yeah, I guess I was saying, oh no, wait, we were talking about, oh, yeah, if I am in the club, no girls are coming to talk to me, you as a girl, go to a club, guys will come and talk to you.
You could have like a girl with 300 followers, a thousand followers on Instagram, and she's gonna get bombarded with DMs.
You could be super clouded up as a guy, and in order for a guy to receive as many DMs as a girl with like 700 followers on Instagram, you need to have like a million followers on IG to get the same level of attention that a woman with a thousand followers has.
So, yeah, women don't really shoot their shot like that.
Agreed.
Okay.
Yeah, just in general?
Or like, yeah, in general.
Like, yeah, I guess in general, like it's less, but like for me, when I see someone I'm interested in, I'll ask for the information or something.
Well, how much, how many times have you done that?
Probably like five, five, six times or more, honestly.
And how successful are you?
100%.
Yeah, so that's the other interesting thing.
So men, like, I think for a man who's a fucking killer, and I don't mean literally, but he's got fucking game and he's running through girls, 10% success rate.
That guy's a fucking stud.
10% success rate.
A woman, bro, y'all women have dating on fucking easy mode.
Y'all don't get rejected.
You don't really deal with reject.
Well, deal with rejection a different way.
But even when you do take initiative, which is incredibly rare, your success rate as women is so astoundingly high.
And then also guys will be mostly polite.
Yeah.
Guys will be like, if you approach a guy, he'll like remember that shit.
For sure.
That's the thing.
I'm like, am I raising their ego?
But honestly, that's good.
That's good.
Do Women Deserve Loyalty00:08:06
That's what women provide for men.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Confidence.
But a man can go through like the amount of attention you've received probably in Miami.
You've like you compare that to an average guy.
Like your first day in Miami, you probably received more attention in one day than an average guy will in his entire life.
That's the difference.
That's kind of sad.
That's the difference.
But so what I was saying with her is if a man acted like her, he would be a fucking virgin.
Because men have to, like, we can't sit around.
Men have to be proactive when it comes to dating.
We can't just wait for women to come to us because women don't come to us generally.
Now, if you're a fucking top-tier guy, women will slide into your DMs or they might approach you.
But most men are not top-tier guys.
So what about the other 90%?
I don't know.
I think men should put more like effort into it.
What effort do women put in?
For their looks and stuff.
Oh, no, you're talking about looks.
I thought you were talking about like effort.
I'm talking about looks.
Because it's probably easier to become like top 10 percentile man than it is for a woman, because there's so many beautiful women in the world and there's not as many like you know.
Like, you see, like a really attractive guy.
He probably, you know, has I don't know so many girls, so many girls like I'm just gonna use Clav as an example because I'm I know he has his platform and everything.
But you see him and like girls will flock to him and like it.
I don't know, like it's different, it's different.
Uh yeah, I mean, do you want to like fuck him or something?
No no, I was.
Would you date him?
No, I've met him a few times actually.
No, did he try to fuck or no, he was just like.
He was a little bit rude honestly, but it's Clav, a lot of guys who get girls like that nonchalant.
Yeah, he's just like, Be gone with you.
Exactly.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't know.
I look, here's my position.
We were talking about her being a sex worker, being a stripper.
She wants, she deserves men paying for first aids.
I think if you're not a traditional woman, you don't deserve traditional treatment.
I'm not saying you should have a question.
Men should be nice to you.
Men should be nice to you.
They should treat you well.
But some of these gestures that are traditional, paying for dates, chivalry, I don't think you deserve it.
So let's say there was a disabled person, a fat person, and they're all women, whatever.
So you're saying they don't deserve the same thing?
Wait, what?
Just because they're different?
Is the disabled person traditional?
Is it the woman who's disabled?
It doesn't matter.
They all deserve the same thing.
Respect.
Well, so, okay, hold on.
So there's a distinction between respect and being treated well and specific acts of chivalry.
Everyone should be treated well as a murderer like a rapist.
So a woman who's a sex worker, I'm not saying she should be abused.
I'm not saying she should be treated poorly.
She should be treated.
If a guy's down to dater, he should treat her well.
He should treat her kindly.
He should.
But what I'm talking about again is specific acts of chivalry.
And so should she have her shit paid for?
Nah.
In fact, you probably earn more money than most of these dudes.
Like, that's crazy.
Like, imagine a 19-year-old sex worker who's making $100,000 a month dating some guy and fucking his in college.
He's going to be able to fucking pay for you?
No, that's ridiculous.
The male sex workers die in the same level as me or up.
I wouldn't.
Okay, well.
And the men sex workers don't deserve the sandwich, don't deserve the center, like the center of interest, don't deserve the chivalry from the woman then?
No.
Like they don't deserve all of that?
Is a male sex worker?
Just because their work?
Just, yeah, because it's like, well, there is one thing to put your job in the past and there is one thing to keep it going.
But if, like, I don't know, I'm not advocating for those people, but it's just like it seems silly to me to not like, they're still human beings, they're still male.
Like, if you're attracted to him, you want him, you want him in your life, and he's like compromising with you and not having that job anymore.
Like, his past doesn't really matter at that point.
And it's like, well, does that person then doesn't deserve either like any like good stuff from the woman?
I mean, I think I'm fine with that.
Respect and kindness and not being violent and abusive.
That's like a universal everybody, one standard.
I think chivalry and paying for dates and flowers, like that's between one person and the other who are exchanging those things.
I think it's between human and human and not towards what you do or what you don't do.
There is women that are not, honestly, like the first 20 years of my life, I was not deserving of a chivalrous man.
Like now I have changed a lot.
I have worked on myself.
I understand what a traditional woman is.
And it's like, yeah, now I think I'm still in progress and I still have some work to do.
But then I didn't worth it before.
And yeah, now I do.
And I am working very hard on myself to be worth it, even though I have never done sex work.
And I don't think it depends on your job, but who you are.
Let me frame it like this.
Maybe this is going to be the best one.
I've failed.
I think I've failed in properly convincing or being persuasive on this subject.
Does someone who is disloyal deserve loyalty?
No.
No, no.
Like, how about this?
Maybe this is good.
You guys know, like, Andrew Tate and Justin Waller, maybe you saw that fucking dog shit Netflix documentary.
Some of these guys, you know, they're open on their end, closed on the woman's end.
Do they hmm?
So it's like they're not loyal to the woman.
They're sleeping with other women.
Now they've disclosed this.
They're not like cheating necessarily.
Do you think they deserve the woman's loyalty?
No.
If I was the woman, no.
But some of these women caught up with it.
Right.
But that was my point.
So even though you might say that these men who they won't give their loyalty to the woman, but expect loyalty in return, you would say they don't deserve her loyalty.
They still get it in some instances.
That's what I'm trying to get at here.
So yes, they can still get it, but we're talking about do they deserve it.
In this case, mapping that on to the previous conversation, does a non-traditional woman deserve traditional treatment from a man?
I think you can use this loyalty example to understand the perspective of, well, hold on.
If loyalty is a performance, if loyalty is behavior, I am performing loyalty.
I am loyal.
I am being loyal.
I am doing loyalty.
Could this then not apply to the behavior and performance of traditional roles?
So if I'm going to be traditional towards a woman, ought not she be traditional back.
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, I agree.
If I was a man, that's what I was doing.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
If I were a man, that would be like my background thing.
That's pretty much what I said.
Traditional Roles And Performance00:15:36
Yeah.
As a man, makes sense.
But I'm traditional, so I can't relate.
So are you?
Very.
Okay.
Let's see here.
As soon as she returns, we're going to get into some of the topics, but first we have, let's see here.
I want to do a segment called.
Did you show these, Tiffany?
Did you show the orange one?
No, I absolutely wouldn't.
Bro.
Okay.
do you remember what time it came in you got to be on top of the wait this tiffany that came in Oh, that's fucked.
Tiffany, that came in 20 minutes ago.
Did you show it?
No.
Okay.
It's right there.
Okay, whoever that orange super chat is.
Let me see if I can see it here.
All right.
Political overtones.
The entire point of her dates are to use her pretty privilege to scam men into paying for her meals.
Just pull the reds, keep them, like keep them here.
All right, can somebody read this, please?
The entire points of her dates are to use her pretty privilege to manipulate men into paying for her meals.
$1,000 spent on her meals a week that she doesn't have to foot the bill on.
Good point.
I don't use men to buy food.
I can buy my own self-food.
Thank you, Political Overtones, for the $100 super chat.
Appreciate it.
I mean, he does raise an interesting thing.
Women will sometimes do something called a foodie call where you have no genuine interest in the guy or very, very low interest.
And you'll either use him for the free dinner or maybe he's inviting you to an experience.
It doesn't necessarily have to be dinner.
He could be like, let's go to a concert, but you, oh, the concert sounds fun, but not so sure about the guy.
So, not all women do that, by the way.
Just to be clear, and I don't think it's even the majority of time you go on a date, a woman is doing this.
But it is a phenomenon that men have to be wary of.
So, I don't know what the point is, though.
Like I said, I'm just having fun.
You know what?
I think she does deserve it.
She deserves it in the way it is.
A guy just taking her out on a date, doesn't want to settle down.
If they're okay with that, to me, that's not valuable.
I'm not laying them on.
I'm not offering it as like, I want to settle down with you.
I want to take care of you.
I would say she doesn't because of where she like she's kind of, she's not trying to be traditional.
Are women owed their dates being paid for?
Well, do they deserve it?
No.
Because it's the same thing.
I don't think that's on a woman.
It depends on the woman.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, it's too many new husbands.
All women deserve or don't deserve.
It's like we're all even at that table.
I couldn't tell you you deserve it.
You deserve it.
It's just like we're completely different.
Okay, so tell me then, what should men do?
If you're not going to bite on deserve or not deserve, what should men do?
I want them to just be stable and reliable.
You know, let's test this out.
You guys going around the table, should men pay on first dates?
No.
I mean, did I say yes?
Yes.
What?
Should men pay on first dates?
Okay, whatever you circled here, just say yes or no.
Okay.
Yep.
I think so.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Not necessarily.
No, but it's nice.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's two no's and six yeses.
So from there, we can get into the expectations placed on men.
What are the expectations we can place on women?
To be loyal, to be affectionate.
Well, hold on.
Really quick here.
So what I'm asking for is unique, unique.
So we would both agree that both men and women should be loyal.
Both men and women should be financial literacy.
No, that's what I would say.
Hold on.
What uniquely and specifically should women do?
Financial literacy.
Most women don't have that.
A majority of people.
Intimacy.
Okay.
A unique thing men should do is men should pay on first dates.
Only one person can pay for the date.
Therefore, it's unique to the men.
Both.
And of course, men should be financially literate too.
You would think, but a majority of them are not.
Yeah, but this wouldn't be something that is unique to women.
I just don't know most women who know anything about finances that well.
I don't, that you're not understanding the question.
What should uniquely women do?
Unique be engaged.
What does unique time look like?
Well, what do you mean by unique?
Wait, hold on.
Everything you've listed, the man should do too.
Yeah.
Everything, be engaged, be listening, look good.
The man should do that too.
I mean, cook, like, make their on the first date.
Oh, on the first date?
Yeah, first date.
I mean, no.
What should we make them like?
Or even early on?
What should women do?
I mean, I like transparency about trajectory.
I don't think you should keep them fired to do anything on the first date.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm like, it's just, I don't know if you're not.
Men are expecting to be a daughter.
And I answered no because I don't think we should.
Like, there is nothing expected.
It's like you are going to have a good time with someone.
And it's like, well, at the end of the day, who cares about who pays?
It's like, oh, we had a good time.
Do you want me to pay for that?
That's not the standard for the majority of the women on the planet.
Well, yeah, you're asking us individuals.
Well, based on my dating experience, I should not do anything.
Okay, that's great.
So if your position is women should not have to do anything, men should not have to do anything, this doesn't apply to you.
This applies to the women who do say men should.
The question, thus, what should women do?
Like, okay, if you're going on the date and you enjoy the date, I think that the guy, if he enjoyed the woman's company, should pay if he wants to take things further.
Wait, sorry, the man should pay?
If they enjoyed the company of the woman.
Like, if they date?
Did you hear the repeat my question back?
No.
I literally asked, what should women do?
And your response is, men should pay for the date.
I'm saying that the girl should be engaging.
The man should also be engaging.
Yeah.
So I'm asking what women should uniquely do.
I think maybe like an emotional opening.
A lot of guys don't have the space to talk to.
You want to fucking talk about our trauma on the first date?
Yeah, I mean, I do, yeah.
But usually for a while before the first date.
So, okay, the woman uniquely trauma dumps on the date.
No, not trauma dump.
No.
That seems like a negative thing.
There's a difference between trauma dumping and talking about emotions.
You think a heterosexual man wants to talk about emotions?
I mean, my experience, usually I talk to them for a while first.
You're dating like a liberal soy boy.
No, I've even dated like super conservative men.
No, I don't date models.
I hate models.
Oh, yeah.
Conservative men really want to talk about emotions.
I'm telling you.
First date.
Yeah, because they don't have the outlet to do that anywhere else.
Okay, give me an example of how a man, a conservative man that you've been on a date with, opened up to you emotionally.
Well, usually it's like their history, their family is more so conservative, not them.
So they just opened up.
Is that banked or something?
No, like they have like a very highly Republican family.
That's what I mean by conservative.
So they, by default, kind of have an influence in that way.
But usually that's what they talk about is how they had to grow up with a non-drum.
Roleplay the conversation with me.
I can't roleplay a nuanced conversation on the spot.
It's individualized to each guy.
I don't know what their thing is.
How do you, what's the word?
I ask.
Okay.
I just ask them.
I'm like, well, how does what you do make you feel?
Like, are you happy in life?
Does this truly make you feel satisfied?
God.
But the guys I date like that.
So, you know, I can't complain about my dating life or the guys I've dated.
Work.
I mean, I've had positive experience.
Yeah, honestly, there's been some guys that trauma dumped to me too.
Like right when I first meet them.
What should the question will be repeated again?
What should women uniquely do?
Well, that's my answer.
I don't know the answer.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Oh, my God.
Oh, fuck.
I could say I think a lot of men think if he pays for dinner, the woman should put out.
Yeah.
No, disagree.
You don't think about that?
Let me.
So, okay.
I think, I think that's wrong.
Now, do I don't know if it's the majority of men, but I would grant that yes, there are men who definitely view view things in that sort of transactional way.
That's like kind of creepy and weird, and I don't like that.
That's weird.
Yeah, so I'm like, are we generalizing or individualizing our answers?
That's why I keep getting generalizing because I don't know how to generalize.
I don't think most men, when they go on a date, like are like, well, I paid for the date.
You're going to have to give me some pussy.
Like, they're not thinking that.
I don't know.
I can only speak for myself.
Okay, so just to be clear, look, I'm so there's a difference between men thinking it, and then there's a difference between men who are like overt, oh, uh, well, uh, I paid for the date, you gotta suck my dick.
Like, that's more.
More than once, it's happened.
I'm sure it's happening.
They switched to the other tasks.
And then when you're like, well, I think I'm gonna go home.
They're like, what the fuck?
Like, you, you don't have to be a single person.
I have to make sure that you're not.
I'm the first to stand by you and say that's fucking cringe.
So when I was dating and on the dating apps, when you know, the few times I did agree to go on a date, I said, there's one caveat.
We will split the bill.
I don't want some awkward, like, oh no, like, I'm gonna get it.
No, no, no, no.
I just want that to be known because I was in these situations where guys just felt like they were entitled to some sexual thing because they paid for my dinner.
I don't want, I don't want to be in that situation.
So 50-50 on the first date, if it goes well enough that I want to go on a second date and you'd like to pay for that second one, I'm open to that.
So, but it's interesting.
So now we're sort of back at deserving.
Some men feel as if they deserve that.
And again, I agree with you guys.
That's fucking weird.
I don't think it's wrong for a man to want, like, of course, you guys are women are attractive.
Men want to sleep with you.
But when it turns into they're going to get all bent out of shape because you don't want to go home with them, or if they're even overt about it, like, oh, but they start fucking crying and like, oh, but I paid for the dinner.
That's fucking cringe.
That's lame.
That's weird.
Like, don't do that.
However, it's a bit of a diversion.
I want to get right back to what should women do.
Let's not go back to men bad.
Let's go to what should women do.
It's like, I already did that.
I feel like we should just be ourselves.
There's nothing.
Men should just be themselves too.
What do women do?
Well, I already answered it from my perspective.
Which is what?
The open up emotionally?
Wait, women, but that would be that's something both of you do.
No, usually they don't know how to start it.
Most men are not emotionally intelligent enough to know how to communicate healthily.
So I usually do typically lead the way of emotional intelligence.
But again, like they are, that's what they like.
That's what that's, I said, I have really positive experiences in dating.
I don't have any toxic passions.
This would still be both ways.
They don't start it.
No, like I'm the one who brings it out.
So without like any other spaces to express themselves, if I'm the only out there.
How do you bring it out?
Questions, asking them direct questions about how their life is, what they do, where they want to go in their lives, like, you know, deeper questions.
Don't men ask that no, no.
Can they ask that too?
Yes.
Okay.
So do you think they can, but most men don't know.
I don't doubt.
Okay, so do you think if you didn't do that, that like before you induced the man to open up emotionally, he was like really turned off by you.
He wasn't attracted to you.
He didn't want a second date.
He didn't want to fuck you.
But the moment you induced him to open up emotionally, uh I can only go based off experience, okay?
I don't know about generalization.
What does that do for?
I would be like, if I was on a date with you, and she was like wanting to have like a really deep convo right away, and she's like, So, Brian, tell me about your most traumatic experiences.
I'd be like, That's not what I asked.
Shut the fuck up.
That's my point.
I don't ask that.
That's like super different.
I asked them about what they do.
I'm being dramatic.
Yes, very dramatic.
If I was interested in the woman, no, I don't think I would tell her to shut the fuck up.
Yes.
But I mean that more rhetorically.
I would be like, Look, we're just having that.
You don't know.
I don't ask about trauma.
That's really intense.
No, I wouldn't be like, I'd be like, hey, look, I like you, you're cool, but I don't really want to get into that.
We just met.
Like, let's talk about something else.
Okay, yeah, but that's an extreme question.
I don't ask them about trauma.
I ask about their life, like their day-to-day, what they're doing.
That's literally what men do on dates.
They ask women about their lives.
No, not in the same way.
Not from an emotional standpoint.
They just ask you what you want.
Women will feel that you're a plumber.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
And they open up, I swear.
Spend all day.
Like, I date.
Incredible guys.
I cannot complain at all.
I have nothing bad to say about the guys I've ever dated, the ones I've been on dates on.
Like, I don't, I've never done a situationship.
So I can't complain.
Men got to roll out a $200 dinner, and in exchange, the woman's going to ask him an emotionally loaded question about his future.
Where do you see yourself in five years?
And how does it make you feel to know?
Inflation is fucked.
And you're not going to be able to buy a house.
And you're probably not going to be able to afford raising kids and stuff.
How does that make you feel?
I don't ask about any of those things either.
But as I said, I have really great experiences.
So I'm not, I guess you're not my target demographic, but in my personal life, I do very well with dating.
So clearly, they like what they are getting.
I mean, you know, I usually talk to the guys for a while before I even go out on a date with them, anyways.
The Duty To Protect Children00:14:46
So, you know, I mean, well, yeah, you should talk to somebody first.
Well, yeah, I'm like, well, so a lot of people will just meet and go.
Okay, so besides the she induces an emotional conversation.
Besides that, what should women do?
What should women do?
Do you guys not even know?
I mean, that's a traditional mindset that I give.
Wait, wait, wait.
How about this?
Let's do this.
Let's do this.
List out, list out all the things men should do.
On the first date?
Let's say, you know what?
Let's not say just the first date.
Why don't we say in a relationship?
Let's do early on, so first three dates, and then maybe we can distinguish and say in a relationship too.
Okay.
So distinguish those early on, before girlfriend, and then during relationship.
If he was talking to other women, stop.
Unfollow every girl.
Just kidding.
No.
That's fine, I guess, if they're friends.
That's about it.
And early on, just stop talking to other girls.
Here.
If you're getting to know someone.
Let me bust out the questionnaire here.
I feel like this is going to be diff unless here.
Let me go really quick.
Give us two or three things.
Quick.
I feel like you should have self-respect for people and how they treat them.
I'm asking like things men would uniquely do.
That is.
A lot of guys are douchebags these days.
Well, women also can do that.
Yeah, but if you find someone with the same.
Okay, here.
I'll just.
Never mind.
Let me.
I reclaim my time.
Lexi on the questionnaire, you circled the following to which you agree.
Men should pay on first dates, men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
Husband should be willing to die protecting you.
Take the bullet.
But that's like later on.
Yeah, well, it says husband clearly.
Yeah.
Husband, but I do think you would have an expectation that your boyfriend of three months would protect you.
Yeah.
And if he was a pussy and a coward, you would lose attraction for him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If I'm getting like beat up, like I would want him to, like, yeah.
Well, so I think that even though the charitable thing that I would say here is, realistically, throughout the course of one's life, will most boyfriends or most husbands actually be put in some sort of life or death situation protecting their girlfriend or wife?
No, I'd say most don't.
However, there's another component that's a little deeper.
You might not even be willing to date a guy who wouldn't be willing to that.
So if a guy's a coward or a pussy, regardless of any situation actually manifesting, you wouldn't be attracted to him.
How would I know?
You might not, but maybe, for example, like he sees a rat.
This is cringe.
And he like jumps up on a chair and screams like a chick.
Or you see him get his ass whooped in a fight.
Or he tells you.
He's like, Yeah, you know, I don't know.
Maybe you've seen a video.
I don't know if you saw this video.
I think it took place in Costa Rica.
It was a couple months ago.
This woman was getting her purse snatched and getting stabbed at the same time.
And she, I don't know if she was with her boyfriend, but she was with a male.
And the male did nothing while she's getting her purse snatched, getting stabbed by this guy with a knife.
And the male is just standing.
I think it was the boyfriend.
She survived.
You can't tell me if you were about to go on a date with that guy and you saw that video.
You're not going on that date.
You're not dating that guy.
You're like, this guy is bitch made.
Yeah.
Right.
So even if never in the course of your entire life, your boyfriend or your husband might never be faced with a situation where they have to physically protect you.
It might never happen.
But if they don't have the willingness or the capacity to do it, it would be unattractive.
Yeah.
I agree.
Right.
So that does come later on.
You said men should pay on first dates.
Men should provide, protect.
Your husband should be willing to die protecting you.
Brooklyn, men should pay on first dates.
Men should provide, protect.
Husband should be willing to die protecting you.
Maria, men should pay on first date, provide, protect, be chivalrous, and should be willing to die protecting you.
Lindsay, men should pay on first dates, men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
Veronica, men should pay on first dates, men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
Letitia, men should provide, protect.
Julia, men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous, men should be chivalrous.
So I just don't take the should, honestly.
Like, if the shoulder is a question, that's besides the point.
What should women do?
This is like SAT.
Yeah, I'm like, I just don't, I can't generalize, so I don't know.
I can only speak from personal experience.
I'm so sorry if they should make a home if they're children.
Well, that's like all like after the relationship, I'm assuming.
First date, like, I don't know.
What would you say?
In my head, like, the talking stage is like the trial period to a relationship.
So I typically try to show up like how I would in a relationship starting in the beginning.
I want them to see what it would be like if they were to date me long term so that they can fall in love with who I am.
So I'm like, and I expect, you know, them to be themselves.
So that's the only expectation is to mirror that energy.
So that's a good question you asked, Brooklyn.
What should the man has to answer for what women should do?
Women can't even tell me.
Really quick, before I give my answer, just throw it out there.
Is there anything that women should do in a relationship?
Yeah, be demure, respectful.
Like, don't be an embarrassment.
Well, ideally, bring something to the household to finances.
The demure thing is somewhat unique, but the other two things you listed, Julia, kind of go both ways.
In a relationship, right?
Yeah, what should women uniquely do?
Uniquely.
Bake.
Men don't bake usually.
Okay, so cook, bake.
Okay, sure.
Clean?
Should women clean?
Sure, but both should be clean.
No, just the woman should clean.
No.
I think it depends.
If it's a traditional relationship, then yes.
It depends.
If I'm paying for everything and she's not working, mom, yeah, I'm doing laundry.
I'm taking care of the kids.
I'm cooking.
I'm doing the traditional stuff.
But if we're both going to work, I feel like now you're not in a strictly traditional relationship.
But yeah, that's like the stuff that's uniquely for, I guess, a traditional relationship.
Yeah, so I would say it's being submissive, deferring to his leadership.
So that means being a follower.
If you want a man to lead, you have to be a follower.
You can't get around that.
What does like being submissive really mean?
Yeah, so acquiescing to his wants and desires.
If he tells you to do something, you do it.
But what, like, what would you say?
Just to be clear, that doesn't mean, that doesn't mean if I tell my girlfriend, hey, you see that bridge over there?
Fucking jump off it.
No.
In that instance, you could defy me.
That means that means deferring to me.
It means letting me lead.
It means don't question every single thing.
Don't question me.
Don't nag me.
Don't henpeck me.
Don't be quarrelsome.
Defer to me.
Don't question me.
If I'm leading you, right?
Is that the authority?
Is that not?
Yes, it is authentic.
But what's the question?
Yeah, what were you telling?
What's the statement you say?
I believe men in relationships should, if you want to, no, look, people can have any kind of relationship they want.
You want to peg a dude?
You want to make a guy a little fucking bitch?
Then fine.
Be in that relationship and it can be all consensual and it can be negotiated.
If you're a woman and you want to deal with a traditional man, then defer to his leadership.
What's like a submission?
So yes.
As long as he's a relationship.
Yes, of course.
Can you give an example?
Don't defer.
Don't be some.
Yes, you should be, the guy should be worthy.
Yeah.
The guy should be deserving.
The guy should be virtuous.
Can you give an example?
But yes, I should have authority in my relationship.
Like, what would you say?
Like, I'm curious, what do you mean by authority over which aspects?
Yeah, sure.
So example.
Yeah, yeah.
An example would be, hmm, let me think of a good example.
Here, I'm dating a girl for two years.
And it's difficult because the type of woman that I would date that I would want to be in a relationship probably wouldn't do this to begin with.
But yeah, the thing is, like, typically, like, the type of people you find yourself in a relationship with, they're going to match up with you mostly.
Well, that's not always true because people get into relationships where things are an issue for the respective partners.
For example, women end up dating guys who watch porn.
Most women are not cool.
I don't think men should watch porn.
They shouldn't be gooning it to fucking 100 chicks on Instagram.
They shouldn't be following chicks.
They shouldn't be liking their shit.
Even if they're single, they shouldn't be doing that shit.
That's fucking lame.
But in a relationship, you're being disrespectful to your girl.
You shouldn't be liking Instagram, fucking bikini pics.
You shouldn't be watching porn.
You got to save that shit for your girl.
But I think, for example, and it's difficult because I feel like the type of girl I would date, she doesn't party.
She doesn't drink.
But my girl comes to me.
She would just, she would already get it, though, is a thing.
But I guess in the scenario, she's like, I just say that.
She's like, hey, Brian, I want to dress like a fucking slut and go to the club with all my single girlfriends.
And I say, no, that's the end of the conversation and she's not going.
That's the authority.
Okay, well, I guess you're definitely going to be aware of that.
Now, if you want to date a guy and you want to be a strumpet, you want to go to the club and be a hood rat and do that shit, some guys are going to be okay with that.
A lot of guys don't have the constitution and grounding to ever tell women no.
Yeah.
But I get what you're saying.
Apparently it's abusive.
It's apparently it's abusive to be controlling to some.
Okay.
Are most women happy when their man is liking Instagram models, photos, and going to the strip club?
I mean, I'm traditional.
I don't go out on doing that stuff.
So I agree.
So look, you can, look, I mean, I'm not going to physically prevent you, but if you're going to go against me on this, you want to go to the club.
It's just a break.
We've been dating for two years.
Back to the streets you fucking go.
Stop the cow.
I did not mean to press that.
I meant to press this.
Whoops, my finger slipped.
Keep it on to the streets.
Back to the streets she goes.
Look, she wants to be, she wants to do hood rat shit.
Back to the hood she goes.
Like, you're not moving in such a way that is relationship-minded.
When we're talking about protection, we're talking about the man should be provide and protect.
I believe a man's duty to protect a woman in a relationship isn't just from physical threats.
It's not just the a burglar breaks into your house and you're going to shoot him or fight him or whatever.
That's part of it.
There's other components.
When a man should protect, the man has to protect the woman from her own dumbass mistakes.
The man has to protect the woman from making mistakes that will be the ruination of the relationship.
We need that.
And what about the man from your sister?
Hold on.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
Men need to lead.
Men need to lead in the relationship.
And look, because a lot of y'all, men and women have been brainwashed.
Men and women have been brainwashed.
It's okay to dress like a fucking hoe.
It's okay to go to the club and get drunk and go over to some dude's house for an after party.
If you're in a relationship, if you're a relationship-minded person, whether you're a man or a woman, you don't do that.
No, even when you're shaking.
And so as a man, I have a duty to protect the woman from perhaps her own mistakes.
I have a duty to protect my relationship, our relationship.
But isn't that also her job?
It's her job too.
I'm not saying, like, I'm not here to micromanage you.
You should just get it to begin with.
The other thing I need to protect a woman from, and this is also protect the family, say when we have kids, threats, not just of body, but of mind.
I need to protect her spirit.
I need to protect her mind.
How is society?
How is media trying to propagandize her?
Oh, the school system wants to trans our kid?
No.
Homeschool?
No.
Oh, oh, wow.
You want to send the kid to the school where they've got all the fucking school therapist is going to trans the kid?
No.
Oh, you as, I mean, I'd probably divorce my wife.
Oh, you want to trans our kid?
Get fucked.
I will, I don't care if I burn through all my fucking money.
You're going to trans my fucking kid?
Fuck no.
I'm going for full custody.
I don't care if I burn all my fucking money.
You're not turning my son into a fucking woman.
Yes, I agree.
And so I have a duty to protect my children.
And look, I don't know a lot of the fucking trans shit.
That's y'all.
That's on women, not gonna lie.
And wouldn't that be like more of a conversation and be like, we could like, I understand that there is a leader, there is followers.
I totally get that.
And I told, like, I understand.
There is no conversation.
Trust Issues In Relationships00:15:07
Yeah, no.
No, but conversation.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not saying conversation to agree.
I'm just saying like, just because as a partner, like, for example, marriage is going to be the first step.
Well, when you date at first, you don't know what you think about marriage.
So later on in the relationship, you're going to start talking about marriage.
And then at that moment, it's like, yes, I want to follow, but I also want the discussion to be able to be open to that.
And then, okay, we're going to have kids.
Okay, sweet.
So how do you see the future with kids?
How do you see school or not?
Clearly, yeah, homeschool is the solution, like for sure.
But it's just all of that shouldn't be a black and white again from the husband.
It's like, well, I don't mind you putting it on the table, but I do mind you not even listening to my answer.
And it's like, if we disagree, then yes, we need to split.
And if we don't, if we agree, then let's go for it.
So I'm fine with there being an initial conversation.
I think in a tiebreaker situation where she disagrees, I disagree, I think the man has final say.
Okay.
Well, do you mean like surgery or like you're saying you wouldn't even want them dressing home?
They can't socially transition.
Okay.
They can't dress up like a kid.
They can't go on puberty blockers.
They can't get surgeries, gender-affirming care.
None of that.
What about like tomboys?
Like sometimes.
That's different.
I mean, yeah, okay, you've got a daughter and she.
Masculine kind of dressing.
I mean.
I mean, I was a tomboy growing up.
Yeah, me too.
And now I'm like such a girl.
I think that's different.
I don't know.
I don't think I, you know, I. What about like a son?
Like, if he wants to dress up differently, maybe not like completely change the language.
I'm sorry.
Oh, no, no, no.
So children are under the authority of their parents.
If my son comes to me, by the way, I don't foresee this ever fucking happening.
He's like, hey, hey, dad, I want to wear a dress to school.
No.
You're not doing that.
You're a little confused, son.
You're a little confused.
You're going to get fucking bullied.
I'd be curious how he, how did you get there?
How did you arrive at this desire, son?
Yeah, and also, like, if I had a little girl, like, she can dress in like normal clothes, but if she wanted to put on little boy clothes, it'd be like, no.
Like, you're a little girl.
True.
I don't know.
And look, just to be clear, I don't want to, I come off a bit strong rhetorically here.
I don't want to suggest that I think women are stupid or anything.
I don't.
I think women are smart.
I think they're, but I do think that there is Certain narratives in society where it's like it's like okay, uh, it's controlling for the guy to not want you to go to a bar where you could like I'm not you're saying there's double standards.
Well, I guess what I'm saying is like I'm I'm trying to look out for my girlfriend like I and I've never been the guy like I need to you need to text me.
Where are you at?
Oh, let me look through your phone.
I've never done that in a relationship.
I have trust in my relationships, but there are just certain things I don't want my girlfriend to do.
I don't want her posting thirst traps on Instagram, preferably her fucking shit's private.
I don't want a girl who's not really on social media like that too much.
I want a girl who's not going to bars and clubs.
I don't really drink unless somebody does a champagne pop.
I don't drink at all.
I don't do drugs.
I don't smoke.
And so I don't know.
So if she, yeah, just like if she casually, she has a girlfriend, she wants to go out with her girlfriend and they're just going to have a dinner and maybe it's going to end up in a bar.
Like if you trust her, is that really an issue?
Like.
Well, it depends, right?
So like she gots to go out to Trader Joe's.
She wants to go get brunch.
She wants to get lunch, dinner.
That's fine.
But when it becomes, I want to party, that's the threshold.
That's the threshold.
And so, look.
A lot of people don't want to accept that, though.
What do you mean?
Like, a lot of our generation tries to normalize that.
I think that you should want to go out with your partner.
I mean, it depends on what you like.
Like, some girls don't like going out.
Some guys don't like going out.
So match up with someone else.
Well, what's the point for the guys to go out?
Like, you go out together.
I've gone out with guys, and it's fun.
It's fun.
I mean, I'll tell you this.
Have you ever seen fights break out when you go out?
Like at the club?
Yeah, like to probably guys mostly fighting.
Maybe some girls do.
Not really.
You never see street fights like outside the club at 2 a.m., 3 a.m.?
No, not really.
I mean, I can tell you this when I was younger, when I went out to bars a little bit and I also went to college parties.
And it was like this big strip of just like house parties and there'd be frat parties and just people would be pouring in the streets, right?
I would see fights every single night.
I think it's like frat like culture.
I think no, it's not even the frats.
It's just like some drunk dude here, drunk dude here.
Yeah, it's not like that.
They're not getting laid.
They're frustrated.
I just don't like the environment.
And so I see when I would go out to bars and clubs, and I'm not like, this isn't the hood.
Santa Barbara is one of the highest cost of living cities in the entire United States.
It's like, yeah, it's not like the fucking ghetto.
It's not the hood.
Fights breaking out every, I saw it all the time.
I've been like in a few close calls and stuff.
Like with you almost fighting?
Like guys kind of pumping up their chest and trying to start shit, but I'm not a testosterone.
Yeah, so I've extracted myself from certain situations and but like I've seen it.
I've seen it.
So you're just not going to go out just for the no.
Well, what I'm saying is I think it's actually, one, you already got the girl.
Why the fuck are you going to the club?
Just stay home, fuck, watch Netflix.
Well, that's some food.
That's what you like to do.
You know, you like to stay and people like to go out.
Yeah, we can go.
We're like a group of people.
Let's go to a guy.
Let's do it.
Let's do a wholesome walk at the beach, me and my girl.
Yeah.
I'm sure a lot of people like that too.
You can have a mixture.
Let's go to the beach.
And then let's watch Netflix and fuck, and that's it.
You are a guy's best man.
And for his bachelor party, he wants to go to Vegas and go to a strip club.
Not your thing.
Never would on your own, but this is your best man.
You're in this two-year-long relationship.
Like, would you expect your woman to not be like excited about it, but to be like, yeah, you know, go have fun.
I would expect that.
I'm not going to blow up your phone.
I'm not going to make you feel like you're being a shitty boyfriend.
Yeah.
So this is what I would do in this situation.
I would go to dinner with them.
I would smoke a cigar with them.
I would bow out of going to the strip club with them.
Dang, you're a good dude.
I'm not going to die.
I wouldn't care personally, but most guys would, though.
Even if I was single, I probably wouldn't have to.
I've done right then.
Yeah, I would go.
Have fun.
Enjoy.
Yeah, I'm like, it's a bachelor party.
Go so much.
Yeah, do not.
Go ahead.
I'm going to be honest.
I do not trust.
I would not trust a bachelorette party with a male stripper.
I'll say that.
Yeah, that's a lie.
Oh, we usually go to female strip clubs, at least.
I've talked to some of these male strippers, and bro, these chicks, bro, the male strippers will have the cock in the face.
Some of the chicks will fucking give them head.
Like, no.
My girl wants to do a bachelorette party.
Go to dinner.
Whatever.
If there's a fucking stripper involved, hey, babe, go to the hotel.
And she should respect that.
And she should be like, I understand.
I'm doing that.
What about like a trip to another place with her girls, like another country?
Spring break, massive yikes.
Girls.
Not spring break.
I mean, like for a bachelorette, we decide to go to Italy.
That's a yikes.
Honestly, it's a yikes.
To go to Italy with my friends for a week without partying?
Girls' trip is definitely a bit of a yikes.
Wow.
Why?
Hi.
You don't like me.
Girls.
Well, I'm going to get a Moab.
Like, what is it?
You're leg crossed or you don't think she's going to be a bad person.
If I know the girls, if I know the girls, they're fucking married too.
Yeah, exactly.
That's different.
That's a little different, but she's going on a single, like, she's with me.
She's going out with three girls who are single.
That's a yikes.
Well, no, because one of them is a bachelorette, so we're celebrating a marriage.
We wouldn't be going to strip clubs or nightlife or anything.
It's literally just like, we decided instead of like going to nightlife, we have the money to go to another country.
So let's take a trip, you know, instead of doing the nightlife stuff, let's just golly.
If I know the girls, you would know the girls 100%.
If she's your girl of a long time and she's spending time with them, you would absolutely know.
At least, and like if it were me, you would know all of that.
Again, there's certain, it would depend on the circumstances.
If I know the, you know, what the itinerary is, I'm amenable to it, but my leaning is, is a bit no.
That makes sense.
Because that's where trust comes in too.
It's like, well, you trust your woman that she's going to be loyal, that she's going to be reasonable.
Like, even in a street club, I organized a bachelorette party for a girlfriend.
And like, yeah, we had a stripper.
And everyone is, you know, like you own your own relationship with yourself in that movie.
I'm sorry.
I don't give a fuck how fucking loyal she is.
I'm not allowing my girlfriend to be in a situation where another man is waving his cock in her face.
No, but he's not anything.
And if we go to a strip, the strippers that I hired was like completely for the woman that was bachelor.
And he was not putting his pennies.
Like these stripes.
What I would say to what about a female?
I don't care.
If my girlfriend, if she respects me.
You don't trust her.
It's not about trust.
If she respects me, okay, you know what?
I want to hang out with my ex-girlfriend who's way hotter than you at 10 p.m. at night.
But don't you trust me?
Don't worry.
We're just friends at the female strip club.
What about a female strip club?
It's not different.
What about a female strip club?
Like if we're all women going, it's not different.
It's not different, though.
Trust is trust.
Trust her to do different reaction, or you don't have to.
Well, I'm just curious if gender plays a role.
I'm just asking that question.
Where do we draw the threshold of trust?
Where does the threshold exist?
So, would you be me personally?
If my girlfriend is going to hang out with an ex-boyfriend pretty much at any time of the day, I'm going to have a serious issue with that.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm sure we all have to do that.
I'm going to have a serious issue with that.
But no, but hold on.
The argument is trust.
So, you would agree with me.
Is it logically possible that your boyfriend or a girlfriend, whatever the situation, could go hang out with an ex with good intentions?
Is it logically possible?
I don't think so.
Hold on, that's not true.
I'm asking, is it logically possible?
Yes, so it's logically possible all of you could have an orgy with me after the show.
What?
Wait, what?
Oh my God.
No, it's logically possible.
Do you understand what I'm asking?
Is it in the realm of possibility?
It's logically possible.
I don't think you understand what I'm saying.
To have a good time with you.
I mean, maybe technically.
No, but what I'm saying is to question why logically possible.
Logically, I would say technically, yes.
Could I go over to my ex.
Okay, I'm dating a girl for one year.
I have an ex-girlfriend who's way hotter.
It doesn't even, she could be uglier.
It doesn't matter.
Is it logically possible that I could go over to her house at 11 p.m. just as friends just to hang out?
Is it logically possible?
Yes.
Right.
But why would you do that if you care about your girl?
No, I'm not making an argument that the man should do it.
It's just his question.
I'm just saying that.
So if we're talking about trust, the oh my god, I don't know.
Whatever.
That's why I was asking about the gender thing.
Like, what if they all go to a female strip club?
That's why I'm asking.
It's just like not traditional behavior to even do something like that, you know?
Well, I know a lot of women who do.
That's why I'm asking the question.
Like, yeah, maybe I trust my boyfriend to go do that, but the fact that he wants to do that, like knowing how it would probably make me feel, like, that is the problem.
I guess knowing how it would make you feel is really the park thing because I genuinely would not care.
I mean, if he doesn't want to, that's great, but like emotionally and mentally.
Like, I feel like in my relationships, I trust them enough to be like, do what you want.
They typically don't, honestly.
That's exactly.
But I don't know a single one who has.
But still, I'm secure enough in the relationship that it's up to them.
They just choose not to.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's just a boundary.
Yeah.
Everyone has different boundaries.
Because the person I want and who's right for me is going to, as you said earlier, understand what it is that the boundaries are, especially if we're years in.
They know.
We have already discussed that.
Wait, did we get around the table on relationship status?
No.
No, we didn't.
We only claimed that.
It's her now.
All right.
Relationship status.
I'm just single.
For how long?
Like a year and a half, two years.
Ever had a boyfriend?
Yeah.
How long?
Like almost a year.
That's your longest relationship?
Yes, my only relationship.
All right.
And that was the one that ended like one to two years ago?
Yeah.
Okay.
Are there any guys in the picture currently?
No.
No, nothing.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Literally nothing.
Drought?
No, I just, right now I'm just focusing on myself.
I'm trying to get my schoolwork done so I can transfer next year.
I don't want to get my hopes up about anyone, especially if I move away.
Are you on any dating apps?
No, I was for like a month.
I just realized it wasn't for me.
Sure.
Okay.
Okay.
I like to.
When's the last time you hung out with a guy that you had an interest in?
December.
Okay.
So three months ago?
All right.
Yeah.
Relationship status?
I've been in a relationship for 12 years.
12 years?
Okay.
Good for you.
I know.
I'm assuming it's your longest relationship.
Yeah.
Have you had any other relationships?
Yeah.
Well, before this one, I was in a relationship for like three years.
And then before that one, I was in a relationship for like almost two years.
And what you're 34, right?
Yeah.
So you guys have been dating since you were 22.
Yeah.
About.
Okay.
Dating.
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Awesome.
And let's see.
You are.
But it's been a bit rocky.
Is that correct?
A little bit this like past year.
But okay, so yeah, like pretty much like I told you, he's like, we've both been bad to each other.
I've been bad.
And like he's been bad.
And I was like kind of over it.
And then he was like, this is where people work on their relationship and don't give up on it.
And I was like, oh, I hear that.
Because, you know.
Has it gotten hard before and bad?
Because that is true.
I mean, are you guys married?
No.
Okay, but you're 12 years in.
I would expect that.
Shit got hard.
I don't know.
You guys should have gotten married a long time ago.
Shit got hard.
You all should have got married a long time ago, which folds when it gets hard.
I mean, I don't know.
Yeah, but not married after how many 12 years?
Well, I was crazy for a long time, too.
I can't deny that.
Wait, really quick.
It is a little stuffy in here.
Does anybody want a popsicle?
No, please.
I'm like, I will sleep.
It's like popsicle.
Yeah, I'll take one, too.
Four?
Okay, four.
Popsicle.
Four.
Okay.
Tiffany, can you get four?
I fucking love popsicles.
All right, popsicle.
Sorry, guys.
It's hot.
It's been hot.
Yeah.
It fell on California the next day.
Well, you're like covered up, insanely covered up right now.
You should have my feet are on.
It's been toasty.
Like, yeah, you're like steaming yourself up.
You said you made mistakes or something.
Can you tell us?
I mean, pretty much my biggest mistake was like doing like drugs and stuff.
Which ones did you do?
The bad ones.
Which ones?
Hero on.
Heroin.
Oh, shit.
But did you do anything else?
I mean, I smoke weed.
Like meth?
No.
You didn't try it?
Like at least once?
Meth is the only drug I've never tried, believe it or not.
So have you done her, her, her, I'm sorry, you got so excited.
Oh, gosh.
I love popsicles.
Cute.
Okay.
So how long were you doing heroin?
Like 10 years.
Damn.
I know, right?
Turned out all right.
I know, right?
The mics got bumped a little bit.
Oh, sorry.
Actually, can I have you scoot that way a little bit?
Like scoot your chair that way a little bit.
Way to go though.
And then scoot your mic that way.
My man helped me.
That's yeah, perfect.
Okay.
Perfect.
All right.
We got fucking Tiffany here.
Guys, W's in the chat for Tiffany.
W's in the chat.
I like all her rainbow.
She's the best.
For T-Dog back there.
W's in the chat for our good friend Tiffany.
She's helping out while Nathan is away on vacation.
All right.
So how long did you do heroin for?
No, hey, 10 years.
10 years.
Do you have Mars?
No.
Yeah, I was like, can you show?
Don't can I show?
Don't they don't where did you want to see?
Like where do people usually inject the heroin?
Bro, I don't know.
Like, there's crazy people that like do it in their neck.
Yeah, I've seen people do it in their toe, but no, not me.
Where did you really?
I'm just curious.
Well, I'm not asking to see you're a pussy or something.
What the fuck?
I mean, I'm not sure.
I mean, I guess a little bit, but in my arms.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Okay, all right.
Hey, whatever.
It is what it is.
And did your boyfriend currently, did he also?
No, he didn't.
He doesn't use drugs at all.
So you were just a fiend while in a relationship.
Wait, what?
Like, you were the fiend.
And he was sober.
Well, I mean, he would, like, drink and stuff.
Like, we, like, smoke weed.
Oh, okay.
But didn't you?
Your relationship's been a bit rocky.
Yeah, but it's getting better, I think.
What was the thing about the driving somewhere?
Um, yikes.
Okay, so, like, shit was so bad, right?
And, um, I, like, drove to go meet this dude, and then I saw this billboard that said don't commit adultery.
And I, like, drove really far away.
Wait, can so when you say you were driving, you were in the relationship with your current boyfriend.
Yeah, he knows about this.
I told him too.
But so, what were you driving to do?
Be bad and meet someone.
Be specific.
Meet someone.
And, but then I was driving there and I was like super close, right?
And then I saw a billboard that said don't commit adultery.
So I turned around.
Wow.
How far were you driving?
I'm not saying.
Come on.
No.
Come on.
No.
It was in your notes.
Was it?
I think I was under the influence.
Come on.
Spill it.
Hold on.
You can't say the distance you drove, but you can tell us you were addicted to heroin for 10 years for the better part of a decade.
I'm like, almost like a few sites away, you know.
Driving?
Yeah, I needed a little road trip too.
I was like going through it.
You know, I was like, oh, good drive to clear the head, you know.
Yeah.
And like, how did you meet this guy?
Um, on the internet.
This is how you keep a man for 12 years.
You, you know.
By the way, who chews an ice cream?
Me.
You're supposed to, it's.
You're not supposed to choose.
Yes, there's rules you're supposed to.
I have strong tea.
Yeah, it doesn't hurt me.
No, it hurts me so much.
What?
Can I actually both scoot into the table a little bit?
Okay, so you drove.
How long had you been driving before you decided to turn around?
I don't know, not that long.
Like, I can't remember.
A few hours.
Damn.
And how did you meet him?
Sorry, I forgot to find him on the internet.
On the dating app?
Yeah.
You were on the dating app.
Okay, well, like, I can't even, like, there's so much to it, you know, like, shit was really messed up.
And then I was like, oh, I think I like, I want to leave.
And I was like, do I?
Let me see what else is out there.
Then I was like, you know.
But you told him.
Was he upset?
I'm assuming.
He was mad, but I mean, he also knew he hadn't been treating me really the best either.
And he was like, I kind of get it.
He was like, no, let's both be nice and move past this and stop being shitty.
Did he ever cheat on you?
No.
Did you ever cheat on him?
Emotionally, maybe.
Well, you didn't actually go and have sex with someone else.
No.
But you were.
You were cheating, but you didn't finalize the act, I guess, you know?
Yeah, you could say that.
Like, you didn't fuck, but you were flirting with other men and playing.
Well, just planning to.
She has been faithful.
That's for sure.
Yeah.
I actually, I think I saw your boyfriend on your Instagram, and he's kind of a stud, not going to lie.
I think so.
People say we look good together, you know?
He's like a handsome guy.
I'd say he's a handsome guy.
You're really pretty.
He might mog a little bit.
I know, I'm like, but like, I'm curious.
That's fucking loyalty, by the way.
I wish I could find myself a woman who would, not that I'm a drug addict, but who would stand by me through 10 years of heroin addiction and cheating.
But he's been.
So W him, I guess?
He's been.
Yeah, he's a good guy.
I should like be nice.
Oh, like, yeah, Brian Tiller.
He's done bad things too, right?
Yeah, he's done really bad things too.
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And I've done really bad things.
No, but no.
What does he do today?
I'm not getting into it.
Okay.
He's like, he hasn't cheated on you.
No, he hasn't cheated.
Did he call you a stupid doo-doo face?
Maybe.
Yeah.
Worse than that, but you know, we won't go there.
But was it in response to you fucking cheating on him?
No.
Okay.
Was it in response to you like you were supposed to go to his birthday party, but you were like ODing on heroin?
Did that happen?
Oh, yeah, I've definitely been cussed out for my drug use, which is, you know, I get it.
Have you ever OD'd?
No.
What's it?
Question for you.
Not the heroin.
He's so interesting.
Do you miss it?
Do I miss it?
No, because it destroyed my life.
Do I, has there been a bad day where I'm like, man, I wish I could get fucked up right now and not be craving it the next day or have it destroy my life?
Hell yeah.
Have you ever?
How long have you been sober?
Like, I don't know.
I don't really keep up with that because I think it's like the past and you should let it go, but like four or five years.
It feels good.
Good job.
Yeah, it's been a while, you know.
For years.
That's right.
Can't you question?
I've heard with some of these drugs, like the physical experience of it, it's like, can you describe how you feel?
Like you don't give a fuck.
But like, is it like a good physical feeling?
Is it in your brain?
Is it both?
What is the feeling?
I guess once you're addicted to it, it's a good feeling.
But yeah, like when you do it, it's like, you know, it's a bit of a drink.
Do you feel like a euphoria?
I mean, yeah.
Do you feel like...
Yeah, that's what you're chasing the whole time.
It's that euphoric feeling you get off the first 10 seconds.
So what is the feeling?
Like, are you just, is it like the happiest you've ever been?
No.
Well, like, but what I'm, because I've never done heroin or anything, like, drugs like that.
So it's good.
But I guess my question is, though, has it turned down the brightness in your life?
Does that make sense?
When I was on it?
Well, I feel like, let's say you did this drug that gives you this brain chemistry reaction and like you feel this way when you're on the drug that cannot be replicated in real life.
And it feels like, you know, those dimmer switches?
Yeah.
Does it ever feel like before you did drugs that after drugs, your life doesn't feel as bright as it did before?
No, maybe like in the beginning when you're first sober, it might feel that way a little bit, but no.
Now I feel like my life is like way better and I'm way more full of life and way more myself.
And no, not at all.
I don't feel dimmed.
You don't feel dimmed?
Well, I guess I could see how when you are that addicted, you're in a pretty dark place.
Like, it's going to have an impact on your health, your relationships, financially, I guess.
And then becoming clean, your material life circumstances have improved since where you were.
But I think there's maybe like a brain chemistry component.
I don't know.
No, like in the beginning, yeah, you did feel like life was dimmed and like you almost like missed that chaotic lifestyle.
Like, oh, life is boring now.
Like, oh.
But no, that's like went away for the most part.
And I get where you're coming from, though.
Brain Chemistry And Addiction00:15:28
I don't know.
Like, if you've ridden a roller coaster, going on a slide, you're going to see it's great.
Yeah.
So in the beginning of being sober, yeah, it did feel like that.
Like, think about it.
Like, if you were just like smashing out like a 10 out of 10 baddie, but then you're like, have to like chubby chase or whatever, like, that's.
Downgrade.
Unbelievable.
Okay, good talk.
All right.
Let's see.
What was the segment?
Hey, Tiffany, can you check the Discord to see if they did the make sure you grab all the batches?
Oh, you already did it?
Yeah.
Oh, perfect.
Cool, cool.
All right.
As soon as she's back, we're going to do the next segment, a segment.
Where do we?
Oh, oh, my God.
I got to finish the okay, relationship status.
I'm very single.
Very single.
Yes.
Ready to mingle?
You wrote.
Absolutely.
Yes.
I'm looking for my forever.
Yeah, you wrote in your thing.
You wrote very, very, very unmistakably single.
What does that mean?
I'm just like, I'm not even really putting myself out there as much as I know I probably should because I'm a hermit.
So, you know, I just, I don't have any rosters.
I don't have any guys I'm talking to.
I don't, I'm just kind of in my little hermit world.
So I've been trying to encourage myself to go out more.
How long have you been single for?
Since like 2018.
So it's been a long time.
Wait, 2018.
So that's like eight years then.
Yeah, yeah, I guess so.
Nine, maybe?
So wait, in the past eight years, since 2018, have there been any guys in the picture, though?
Yeah, I've like definitely talked to people, but definitely not a full-blown relationship.
How long was your relationship?
Two years.
Was that your longest?
Yes.
And my only one.
Who broke up with who?
I broke up with him.
Okay.
He was abusive.
He was abusive.
Was he Amish?
No.
Because you're a Quaker.
He was Eastern European.
Okay.
I moved out of my home like very young.
In the past eight years, what is the longest period of time you've seen a guy?
Nine months.
You didn't call him your boyfriend?
No.
What did you call it?
Situationship, talking?
Oh, no, no, no.
Just like we were dating.
You know, like we both had the intention of something serious.
But I just, I needed to find out more about what his life trajectory was.
It felt a little concerning that he felt very disorganized on what he wanted long term, but I didn't want to just end things.
So I thought like if we hang out, we can maybe talk, try to figure out together.
But eventually it just ended up that we were misaligned in futures.
Okay.
And so why are you how long ago was this nine-month guy?
A year.
About a year ago.
A year ago.
Actually, a year ago is when it like ended.
So I guess technically two.
Okay, so in the past year, have there been any guys in the picture?
No.
How long have you been celibate?
Man.
I guess, well, I guess almost a year.
So the nine-month guy, okay.
All right.
And then why do you think you're very, very, very unmistakably single?
Again, because I don't, I don't have any like, I'm not, I don't have any dudes in my world, essentially.
So that's why I say I just feel like I know a lot of people who at least are talking to someone or have a situationship.
I don't have any of that.
What about you?
I'm single right now.
For how long?
About a year.
Longest relationship?
Seven.
Is that the one that ended a year ago?
No.
The one that ended a year ago was like maybe three months long.
That's my only two relationships that I've had.
But I honestly don't know if I really count that one.
Sure.
Are there any guys in the picture currently?
I just went on a first date like two days ago.
Can you be a little closer to the mic, please?
I just went on our first date like two days ago.
First date?
Is there going to be a second date?
Yes, I think so.
Do you want there to be a second date?
Yeah, I really like him.
All right.
Did you tell him?
No, I mean.
Oh, my God.
I told him that I had a good time and stuff.
Like, we've known each other for a couple months now.
Like, we have mutual friends, but like, we both kind of like know that we think each other are cue.
And like, he asked me out on the day and I said, what about you?
I'm single.
It's been three years.
And my longest relationship was five years.
No guys in the picture in the past three years or so?
Just right after I separated from my ex-partner, I met someone for 10 days.
It was the best relationship ever.
And then I. Why didn't it work?
Because he was just visiting for 10 days and then he went back to his country.
And long distance, maybe?
No, I mean, I did that with my ex-husband before, like, he was American and I was still in France.
And so I know it's possible, but this one was just I was working on myself and I was in a mindset.
Yeah, it was just not the right timing to have a relationship.
And I don't think it would have been the right guy.
It was just absolutely perfect for what it was.
And it just raised the bar of what men can be and what a beautiful relationship can be.
And I just swore that this is what I'm going to find.
And then I had one guy last year.
We had a good day.
Well, we met and then we had a date.
I knew he wasn't the one, but I was like, I still so want it.
So I went for it.
And then, yeah, no more because I felt today that I'm committed to the next person that I'm going to be with.
And I am not going to do what I did last year ever again.
So, yeah.
And you were married just once, you said?
Yes.
Do you have kids?
I do not.
The marriage, how long did that last?
We were together for three years and then we decided to get married for me to move in the US.
And then we were together for two years.
And then we.
Oh, so you got your.
You're citizen of the US or?
My permanent residency.
Yes.
Through the marriage?
Through the marriage, indeed.
I would have not come to the US otherwise.
I mean, I had no idea what the U.S.
So, are you naturalized?
What does it?
I don't have my citizenship.
I have a permanent residency.
Okay, I see, I see.
I haven't applied for my citizenship.
Who initiated the divorce?
Me.
Did he pay you alimony?
Oh, hell no.
I was paying for all of it.
So no.
Like, I have been sugar money so far.
So, like, yeah.
Sure.
So.
So, did you pay him alimony?
No, we didn't have that.
It was just like, well, life doesn't work out.
We just, yeah, we just split up.
Like, I don't think we would have been married if it wasn't for like one of us needed to be in the same country.
We met traveling, we traveled a lot together, and then we had to find a compromise.
So you can hide it, but don't unstar it.
I was like, I wanted to respond to what they said.
We'll pull it up in the moment.
What about you, Julia?
Happily taken.
Okay, for how long?
Seven-ish months now?
Oh, seven months.
Okay.
And it's an age gap relationship, right?
Yes.
What's the gap?
15 years.
Okay, so you're 34.
He's 49?
50?
49.
48.
He's 14 years.
Okay.
All right.
Good times.
Longest relationship?
Three and a half years.
Ever married?
No.
Any kids?
No.
Anybody here have kids?
No.
Okay.
Anyone else ever married?
No.
Are you going to marry the guy?
What's going on?
I don't know.
That's not what the girls are.
You have been dating for 12 years.
He's never mentioned that.
Well, for 10 of those years, she was.
Do you want kids?
Yes.
Does he want kids?
I don't think so.
Whoa, hold on.
That's a big thing.
Did he travel with you?
No.
Here?
I was like, should we do an intervention or some shit?
Should we bring your boyfriend on the show?
No, he's watching.
He was like, till Brian let me come.
I was like... I don't know, because it's like...
Oh, God.
Well, look, and we won't, we're not going to dive too deep, but it's like, it's It seems like you guys have different life goals and ambitions.
Well, we're like same, same, but different.
Same, same.
But what's that from?
I don't know.
We always say that.
Same, same, but I think it's the office.
Same, same, but Kevin?
Er.
Andy says it does.
Anyways, whatever.
And you really want kids.
I mean, no, I don't, like, really want kids.
And honestly, if I was going to have a kid, it'd have to be like, I'm able to, like, homeschool them.
I'm able.
Soon.
I mean, I'm a capable girl, you know?
No, I'm just soon.
Yeah, I mean, definitely, like, not 40, like 38.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
34.
You're 34 currently.
Yeah.
Okay.
But you do want kids.
I mean, it's not going to like destroy me if I don't have a kid.
But would I like to have a kid one day?
Like, I guess so.
And, like, I guess more recently I have thought about that more and been like, yeah, I guess that is something.
But, like, I don't know.
then again i kind of like not having a kid too and be able to do whatever but if i was and i think the main reason i don't want to have a kid right now is because like i don't have a homestead I don't have a million dollars in the bank to be able to raise the kid how I want to, you know?
Okay.
Because like I couldn't send my kid to public school, I don't think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And what is his position on kids?
I think he's, I don't know.
I mean, you've been dating for 12 years and you guys don't know?
Like, this is super fundamental.
I mean, yeah, I think like he doesn't, or for a long time he didn't want kids.
And then like.
Does he say why?
And I didn't mean to interrupt you, but you said you were about to say, and then.
Oh, gosh.
For a long time, he didn't want to have kids.
And then you have like a vision.
And I think, like, no, I think like things got bad and it was like, oh, I do love you.
I do want to have kids with you.
How old is he?
35.
Okay, so you guys are the same age, pretty much.
So he does want kids, but not with you.
Wait, what?
No, no, I'm not.
I'm asking that as a question.
No.
Maybe not with her like five years ago, but maybe that's why his mind has changed.
Yeah, maybe.
There you go, girl.
So he does want kids or he doesn't?
I think he's unsure right now.
Like, no, in the past, like, we've never been like, yeah, we're going to have kids, you know?
And then, like, I don't know, as you get a little bit older, closer to like being out of childbearing age, I guess you think about it a little bit more.
You still got a couple years ago.
Having a kid is a scary thing.
It's like a huge decision.
Yeah, and like I said, like, understandable.
Like, I want to have my land with a garden and like be set up to where I could really raise this kid how I want to, you know?
And I'm not that right now.
And I'm just like, why bring a kid into the world if you're just going to like throw him into some bullshit?
If he said he never wanted children, like, would you be okay with that?
I mean, yeah, I guess.
So if he definitively said, I don't want to have kids, that's not a deal breaker.
I mean, I guess I'd have to think about it, you know, because like I'm going to.
Think about it right here on the podcast.
Time is ticking.
No, that wouldn't be a deal breaker.
Okay, well, then it's not a deal breaker.
Okay.
Hmm.
Is that like a right now or like forever not a deal breaker?
Like let's say you do have all the money.
Yeah, because I consider life of never having kids too, you know?
Okay.
But let's assume the material conditions for raising, you know, let's say your finances were good, his finances were good, you had the farm or whatever.
Yeah, I think we would both be like, yeah, let's have a kid.
He would be on board.
Yeah, I think he would.
So you guys are just not in the point in life where you feel financially confident, I guess you could say.
I mean, I guess I could do it right now, but I just don't want to.
Oh, you don't want to have kids.
Wait, golly, you get what I'm saying?
It's like.
Yeah.
I mean, I could do it right now and be financially okay, but that's, I don't want to be having, I want to be better off before I have a kid if I did.
I know.
It's confusing.
I don't know.
Like, you make it.
Yeah, you don't want to just make it.
Yeah, you know.
You want to feel comfortable.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Does it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You.
And, like, for so long, I was so messed up and shit.
And I guess it was like, I don't know why he even stayed with me for so long.
But I guess like kids was like never option.
How's the relationship right now?
Is it good?
Yeah, it's better than it has been in the past few months.
And I guess that's mainly because of me finally being like, okay, I'm going to quit being a bitch.
And because like, no, for so long I was like, I'm over.
I was like, you know, there's too much trauma between us.
Like, let's be done.
And he was like, no, this isn't when you give up.
And I was like, but it is.
And he was like, no, it's not.
So I've been like trying and he's been trying.
And have you ever did you go to relationship counseling?
No, counselors cause more problems.
You just need the whatever podcast.
That's right.
I should do a different show where I just give dating advice.
Just bring couples on couples therapy.
That'd be interesting.
I don't know about that.
Oh, boy.
Shit, should we call this guy?
No.
Honestly, I think we got to call this dude and be like, look, we got to call him with permission from both of you and be like, yo, what's the deal?
Are you guys going to stay together?
What's going on?
Do you want to be with this person for the rest of the year?
He totally wants to be with me forever.
He does not.
Do you want to be with him forever?
Because in your notes, you're kind of indicating a little bit that the relationship's been rocky at points.
You said the struggle has been.
The struggle has been real because it has the struggle has been real lately.
Yeah, he would say that too.
I mean, look, people have ebb and flow in their relationship.
Yeah, I don't know.
Do you guys, is it a dead bedroom?
Maybe a little hair lately.
Like, do you guys not, are you not intimate?
No, we are.
Like, have sex.
I'm talking about sex.
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Well, because I asked if it was a dead bedroom and you said a little bit.
Yes.
Yeah, I said a little bit here lately, maybe.
But like, yeah, we still have sex, you know.
But like, I mean, what are you?
Is it like, what do you mean by the way?
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Not as much as you would like.
Yeah, I guess like we used to have more.
It's not been as much lately.
Like, once once a week?
Once a month?
Like a few times a month.
Oh, man.
Well, does he initiate and you turn him down?
Maybe it's happened once or twice.
Well, okay, once or twice, whatever.
But no, usually like it's like, no, I don't like turn him down.
Okay, so his, are you saying his desire is also lacking too?
I guess because there's been so many problems in our relationship lately that we just like haven't been, you know?
Yeah.
What are the problems?
Just list them out super quick.
Well, the main one was me wanting to be out of the relationship.
And then I told you that.
And then he was like, no, this is when people keep working on their relationship instead of giving up on it.
And I'm like trying to trust my man I've been with for 12 years and I'm like, okay, I hear you.
You know, like we have been together for a long time.
Like, do you just give up on this?
Can I ask you a question throughout maybe more recently, but throughout the course of your relationship?
Do you feel like he's a bit more invested than you are?
Because what you just said is you have had moments that you want out of the relationship.
You've had uncertainty and he's the certain one.
But my uncertainty only started like how recently?
Like eight months ago.
Or wait, maybe a little bit before that.
And has it has it been ongoing?
Like it wasn't just like a week or a day.
It's been ongoing for the past year.
Yes.
No, you don't have to be ashamed to say this stuff.
We're working through it.
Huh?
Huh.
I don't know.
I don't know.
He's a good-looking dude.
He's a good-looking dude.
I mean, he must really be in love with you.
He really likes you.
I'm pretty cool.
But I feel like I almost using the word deserve.
Me, I know, right?
We all know everything.
This guy, I feel like, why be in a relationship with somebody who's on the fence?
No, that's what I've told him too.
So you have to, you're like trying, wait, are you trying to like convince him to not be with you?
You're like, look, I'm a fucking, I used to do heroin.
I used to be a bitch.
Sometimes I still don't want to.
He wants to get me off of it.
He knows.
No, I know, but I guess what I'm saying is, is like it seems like, but look, you've been together for so long.
You don't know anything else.
He doesn't, except that guy you drove almost fucked a couple states over, but that's another conversation.
It's like you've been together for so long.
Like that must be, that's going to be hard for both of you to navigate that kind of breakup.
And especially him, because it feels like he's more invested than you are.
And he's trying to hold on for dear life this relationship.
But I saw the photos.
This guy should be.
Where do you guys live?
North Carolina.
He should be crushing.
He should be running through these North Carolina hood rats.
I'm telling you.
The hood rats.
Fine.
Not even the hood rats.
The fucking whatever.
The Appalachian Trail or some shit.
Please.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, look, you're checked out.
Not completely.
From the male perspective, I would tell, if he was my bro, I'd be like, look, dude, you're fucking Chad.
You're fucking Chad.
Is he tall?
Is he a tall guy?
You kind of mog him on the side because you're tall, right?
5'7.
Yeah.
So he's like, tall guys, good looking.
I don't know.
I'm just this is starting to sound really gay from my part.
Like, I'm trying to end your relationship so I can get with him.
No, that's why you want to call him.
Is that what this is?
Oh, that's why we're here.
No, but if he was my bro, I would tell him, I'd be like, look, man, you can't be in a relationship with a girl that's lukewarm about you.
Like, you got to be with a girl that's like 100% hell yeah.
Like, and but he look, you've been together for so long.
There's so much investment into the relationship.
He was with you through all these bad times.
You're probably with him through his bad times.
You, you guys have probably trauma bonded like insanely.
And like, he doesn't know anything else.
Like, fucking 12 years.
Damn, what?
That was like, was Barack Obama still president?
Like, he doesn't know anything else.
And so, I don't know.
If I, if, what's his name?
First name?
You don't have to say it.
Luke.
Oh, my God.
Look, Luke.
You can keep trying to make it work.
And maybe it will work.
He hates me.
No, he doesn't.
Yeah, right.
Be with a girl.
Oh, no.
If I was talking to my bro, I'd be like, look, be with a girl that's like all in on you.
Wait, and I feel like that's the thing.
I feel like I was forever.
I was forever.
I was forever.
And then things were so shitty.
It just like one day I was like, okay, fuck this.
And then as soon as I wanted to say, fuck this, he was like, oh, I'll never do those things again.
And I was like, okay, we'll see.
Yeah.
He wants to hold on.
You seem a little checked out.
Should we?
This might be a first.
Should we call Luke and have him dump her?
I could believe it.
First, no.
First, first of all.
On stream, whatever first.
First ever on stream.
I'll walk you through it, Luke.
I'll walk you through it.
Actually, you know what?
Luke, do this.
You know what?
Just send her a text message.
Be like, hey, it's been nice.
It's been fun.
It's not you.
It's me.
It really is.
I just need to focus on myself.
That's Luke.
Send that.
Text her that right now.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, Luke.
Luke.
Probably over after this, anyways.
No, I'm kidding.
I don't know.
That's not me.
I'm looking forward to it.
That is not our business.
I'm looking out for my bro.
Just let him live his life.
You don't know everything about him.
I don't know the guy.
There's a lot of nuances.
There's a counselor coming from a guy single, turning into a lady like, you should do that.
I know.
Come on.
Look.
Look.
She's fucking checked out.
Luke.
Luke deserves to be worshipped.
Luke needs a woman to worship him.
Luke needs a woman who's not going to be like.
Are you kidding?
Why not everybody knows that?
I think everybody deserves that.
I already know him.
Where's his comment?
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I'm just saying.
Luke deserves a woman who is all in.
Everyone deserves it.
Everybody deserves somebody who goes for her.
That's the bare minimum of a relationship.
Like, you gotta, I don't know.
If you love him, like, figure it out.
Yeah, like, I was like, if you love him, you may have to end your love for him.
You love that motherfucker?
Yeah, I love that motherfucker.
Do you love that motherfucker?
Yeah.
Show him how much.
What the fuck?
Sorry.
Sometimes I'm.
I shouldn't say it right now.
Oh, I know what you say.
What was I about to say?
Tell me what.
You're doing the culture appropriate.
Cultural.
No, so technically, maybe technically, I'm it's weird because I have so much identity confusion because I'm technically African-American.
What?
You're ginger?
Ginger?
Do you count those as African-American?
No, I'm technically African-American because, so my mom was born in America.
My dad was born in North Africa.
So technically, if my dad was born in Africa and my mom was born in America, technically I'm African-American.
I'm not black.
Dude, you are.
I'm not black.
Yes, you are.
But I am African-American.
All right.
Let's see.
How does this feel to you?
I love it.
Same.
Can't play.
I love it.
Sometimes black people even call me the N-word.
Like, for example, like, are there, you're white, I guess.
Like, you're my Caucasian.
Like, you're my Caucasian, Brooklyn, you...
I'm Italian.
Somewhat.
That's white.
Brooklyn, you're my Caucasian.
Your friend, Lexi, also my Caucasian.
Yes.
But like black people sometimes are like, Brian, you're my.
I can't say it.
You're my.
Here, you fill in the blanks.
No, Brian.
I don't say that.
I don't say that either.
That's not in my vocabulary.
No.
Yeah, it's like kind of low barrel, honestly.
Not the hard argument.
No, either one.
I was raised not to say that.
Never be like, Brian, you're my.
No, never.
What is it?
For a white man to be called the by a black person is huge props.
Yeah.
Well, they have to, yeah, but they have to speak that way.
Especially somebody as nerdy as a.
Because if I said it to you, it would be purely performative because I don't speak like that.
But no.
Like, it wouldn't be a compliment.
I'm not like a street.
I'm not street.
So it's like that's even bigger props.
Like I'm not cool like that.
I play fucking World of Warcraft.
I used to play World of Warcraft.
Like, so for a black guy to bestow upon me the respect.
Anyways, fuck it, whatever.
But I have a question.
We have two black women here, I think.
What do you guys think about reparations?
I don't know.
Or what do the white people think about reparations?
What does that mean?
Oh, reparations, that's like paying, like, so because of slavery and shit.
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
Like, we should give money to black people because of the historical.
Yeah.
Honestly, I just really mean.
Yeah, I'm just in the past.
I just don't.
Show hands.
Who's in favor of reparations?
You?
Oh my God, there was an episode in Atlanta about this.
It was a crazy episode.
Yeah, but what do you think?
I think that, I don't know.
Closer to Mike.
Let's get into that.
I don't know if I can speak about that.
You can.
Are you Latina?
No.
Are you white?
I'm, yeah, I'm British.
That's my background.
Yeah, you can speak about it.
Yeah, I think it's fucked up, but I don't know.
Julia, reparations?
That's a solution.
Yeah, I think it's unrealistic than the thing that they deserve.
I think it's unrealistic.
Like, as a white person, don't you feel kind of guilty?
I mean, my ancestors did.
Weren't slave owners.
How do you know?
Because they're German.
They could have.
Oh, so they're not.
So they did the other things.
Terrible things.
Well, I don't know.
Maybe then just as a white person, don't you feel you?
I mean, I feel.
I feel like it should have never happened, but that's not like me.
So check this out, though.
We have some white people here.
I've already paid my reparations, but having sex with a black woman.
What?
What?
That's my repayment.
That's a repayment.
You're being facetious.
You just checked off.
You're not being serious.
That's serious?
No.
Good indication.
I'm a sex worker.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, there's no way you did that.
No.
Well, he probably did do that, but he probably doesn't mean it how he means it.
So, anyways, remember the setting we are in.
Remember the setting.
I just want to say we do have some white women here.
We do have some white women here at the table.
I would like you guys to go get your purses and pay these two lovely black women, give them some cash for reparation.
How many of you dance room?
Whoa.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
But are you guys down to pay reparations?
No, no.
I would feel uncomfortable.
Well, that was my youth.
I just don't get that.
That was a pretty cringy segment.
Anyways, moving on, we have Julia.
Can you read this one for us, please?
Chair five is a liar.
I've never had any toxic past relationships.
Oh, yeah, he was abusive, so I left.
Yes.
I can explain that, though.
Thank you, political.
Thank you.
So basically, I didn't stay.
Like, once I saw the first sign of anything, I left.
So that's why I say majority, like 95% of the relationship was good.
He has some mental health issues that stem from genuine mental health issues.
And that turned towards anger issues.
But again, once those signs happen, I did not stay.
So it doesn't really feel fair to say the whole relationship sucked when 95% of it was good and I chose not to stay.
Okay.
All right.
I'm trying to think where we were going.
The moon.
I'm back.
Oh, really quick on the topic of reparations.
I like to do a segment called the reverse simp.
So you know how men simp on you guys?
Like they'll, at least for like the stripper and I guess you, they'll just send you money just because you're a woman, basically.
Are any of you down?
Who has cash, show of hands?
I do, but I'm not going to do anything.
Who's down to give me just cash right now?
No.
I have 25 cents.
I don't have to be your man.
I just don't give my money to strangers.
Brooklyn?
No.
That's why I have it.
I mean, if you want to.
But think about it, right?
Think about like it's a bucket list thing.
You can be like, oh my God, I'm a stripper and I make so much money from women.
This one time, I went on the whatever podcast and I gave him like 200 bucks.
No.
Just for the funsies.
Not even in my deathbed.
Rude.
Okay.
We have some chats coming here.
TTS.
Dixon underscore cider denates.
We just got $100.
Holy fuck.
Ladies, would you date Brian?
Oh, boy.
On one hand, he is tall, six foot one, blue eyes.
Red's true.
Sometimes funny, successful, but he has a dead body.
I am Trevor.
Probably autistic.
Definitely.
He has a weird liking for big ladies and the small people.
Hold on.
I don't really know about it.
Hold on.
That person is a little bit more.
It's average, okay?
It's not small, it's average.
Okay.
I almost burped.
That was weird.
Okay, fuck.
Oh my God.
I wish this came in earlier because I've been kind of a dickhead tonight.
So I feel like the girls are going to use that against me.
But okay, going around the table, would you date me?
How old are you?
I'm 21.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm 36.
I'm you.
I was about to say 36.
I'm 36.
Maybe if you were 21.
Okay.
You said you only like 18-year-olds, so whoa, hold on.
That's fucking crazy.
He said 21.
Hold on.
That's not true.
No, no, hold on.
Hold on.
Let's just be clear.
I date women, adult women.
I've dated older women.
Oops.
I've dated women older than me.
I dated when I was a bit younger a couple years ago.
I dated a woman in her 40s.
To be fair, she was Waysian.
To be fair.
To be fair.
She was really young.
She was really young for Asian.
Asian women tend to age a bit better.
Yes.
Now, she only had 50% of that going forward, but she was hot.
She was hotter when she was younger, but we all.
Yeah, true.
True.
Anyways, well, some people know.
I'll date women my age.
I'll date women younger.
Yeah.
Younger adult women, just to be fucking clear.
So when you said like dating only 18-year-olds.
No, I didn't.
You were being.
Wait, when did I say that?
Were you dating 18 years old?
No, mama.
You're like, oh, but you weren't personating.
I was like, you know, I'm the kind of guy that you think we deserve.
No, wait, that was when we were having the conversation of like who deserves what.
And I was sort of not hypothetical.
Yeah, that was a theoretical.
Yeah, it was like, well, okay.
I only want to date 18-year-old supermodels.
Am I going to get it?
I was trying to articulate the point of no, I'm not going to get that.
But okay, so that's a no, Brooklyn.
Too old for me.
Too old.
Okay.
You know what?
I read at a 12th grade level, though.
I don't know if that changes anything.
That is good.
Me?
Yes.
Makes me like each other.
Yes.
Okay, cool.
W?
I would have said yes, but because of the, you said you don't like emotional conversations, so I'd probably be the worst person.
I love being deep.
Okay, fair enough, fair enough.
Well, then.
What's your zodiac sign?
Oh, God.
I'm just going to say no for you then.
What about you?
No.
No?
No?
Okay.
No?
No.
Okay.
All right.
Hey, one out of, yeah, I did okay.
And then, you know, you like deep combos.
She's the woman of your bro.
I was like, if you like deep conversations.
I want to be clear, not because of anything that was on the screen.
Those are all accurate and I think are valuable, make you a good catch, but I don't think none of them are compatible.
It wouldn't work.
That's the only reason why.
It wouldn't be a good thing.
That's fair.
Yeah, I'm like, why are you talking about deep combos?
We haven't heard anything from Julia.
I think we actually have the same.
A lot of the same values, but I think maybe some of the things that we're doing.
I'm not old enough for her, is the problem.
Julia over here likes them in the retirement zone.
No, me too.
Loki.
I'm sorry.
I don't have my.
I'm just too young for her.
I'm older than her, but I'm too young.
She likes the guy I dated for him was three years younger than me.
Okay, well, you're a cougar then.
Oh my gosh.
She's both.
We've got MILF over here.
Julia, when are you going to...
You're a good-looking gal, Julia.
When are you going to pump out some kids?
What's going on, Julia?
And then months.
She puts this in the cards for me.
I've always, I used to think I wanted kids.
Is it the infertility?
No, no, no.
I think it's just like when I'm looking at my future from where I am right now, it doesn't really fit in.
When I look at the future from where I am right now, it doesn't really fit.
Where is that?
A future with...
A way that doesn't fit?
His penis is too big?
So another kid doesn't fit into the picture.
Another kid?
Oh, he has two children.
Oh, so your step?
Mom.
Mom?
Kind of.
I'm the girlfriend of their dad.
You don't want to, what about your bloodline?
Do you have bros?
I mean, I'm Asian, so I have an older brother.
He's got that taken care of.
But you don't want kids?
I've always wanted to be a mother, which I think that's what it was.
I wanted to nurture and raise, which I'm kind of starting to get to do and hopefully do more with these kids.
White guy?
Yes, Italian, so yeah, white.
You don't want kids of your own, though?
It would be really nice, but I wanted to.
Because you said it would get in the way of what?
Your career?
No, I just, I know it would put stress on us.
And you know, it would be really stressful, though, when you're on your deathbed and you're like, oh my God, I didn't reproduce.
Fuck.
I don't think that'll happen.
If I have a family around me, like people that I consider my family, even if they're not my blood, that is enough for me.
What about this terrifying scenario?
I die alone.
You're in like the cold, damp hospice.
There's no one there besides the fucking bitchy nurse who's been, you know, just, I don't know, she's not taking good care of you.
And you're slowly passing away into the ether.
And you look up and you just see the damp hospital wall and then you fucking die.
Oh.
It's like one of those things.
But I don't think that's gonna.
I don't think that's gonna be the case.
I think we need Luke on the phone.
Luke, your girlfriend of 12 years just said she would date me.
What the fuck?
I said someone wanted to.
What the fuck, Luke?
Oh my god.
You asked everyone to talk about.
I know.
I'm teasing you.
I'm teasing you.
All right.
I'm just saying, Luke.
Come on.
I'm just saying.
Didn't you want Luke?
Who here?
I could set Luke up with a girl here.
Yeah.
No.
I don't think.
You know what?
I think we need to kickstart you into gear here.
I think you're not, you know, we need a little competition.
Luke is a little too into you.
He says that sometimes he's like, I should just go make you jealous.
I think so.
You probably should.
Luke, we have so toxic.
You should just end the relationship, really.
We have a 19-year-old.
What?
Stop.
What are you talking about?
We got Brooklyn.
We got fucking...
You guys kind of do look similar.
Us?
No.
They do look related.
You guys have like the same eye colour.
You guys have the same jawline.
No way.
Yes.
Oh my goodness.
You guys be like cousins.
Yeah.
What color are you going to do?
Yeah, she's like your older sister who did heroin.
Oh, no.
Still with us.
It's fine.
You know?
Not shamed.
I mean, a little bit.
You're pretty like fit, though.
I feel like maybe I should do heroin.
I would.
Do you think it would help?
Yeah, you're a child.
It might skin you up a little bit.
I'm so fucking autistic.
Oh, my God.
Same.
It's okay.
My job is a workout.
Okay.
Let's see.
Oh, we got.
Oh, my God, bro.
Naggers, Nagas, Nagas donated $200.
Bro. Brian Atlas, you little piece of shit.
You never have black women on the show, and now you finally have one.
Well, I think we have to do it.
About time you get some diversity around here.
Racist.
Question, yes or no reparations.
We already talked about that.
I think just show of hands, yes for reparations.
I guess that's it.
I'm not even going to repeat your name, bro.
It wouldn't make a realistic difference to my life.
I think for some people, we have this one from Smartest Man.
This has to be the same guy sending these in.
Oh, my God.
Maybe it's a ch.
Okay.
They're just blasting these.
I would swim up the Amazon River with 45 pound weights tied to my labor year with nothing else but Gorlock the Destroyer's quefs as my air supply if if it meant I could have one dinner with Brian Atlas.
Would thank you.
Thank you for that.
I am moan a lot.
Because the name, I guess.
Okay, thank you.
Appreciate it.
That's good.
Okay.
We're going to do thank you for that.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Rating Your Own Looks00:11:29
Would any women do that for me here?
You don't deserve it.
I don't deserve it.
The only time I'll ever agree to go on a date with a girl if she's willing to do that.
Because I deserve it.
Because if she won't, find someone who will.
Why?
Because I'm a king, yo.
Because it's him.
Okay.
Yes.
If she won't.
That's his baseline.
What are the things women say?
If he won't, another one will.
It's like if he wanted to, he would as one of them.
Oh, yeah.
That's the dumbest one ever.
If she wanted to, she would.
Yeah.
If she wanted to immediately come over to my house, have sex with me and clean my entire house and do my laundry and make me a steak, she would.
That's true.
If she won't find someone who will, she doesn't have to.
Never mind.
Good talk.
All right.
Gorlock, that's a story of TV.
On a scale of zero to ten, rate your own looks.
Face, body, total.
Can't pick seven.
So for example, I want you to word it like this.
I give my face 4.5, body 4.5, total 4.5.
I give my face an 8.
I give my body an 8 and total 8, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you can just say face 8, body 8, total 8.
What about you?
Face 10, body 8.
I guess 10, 10?
What?
Well, technically 9.
Technically 10.
Well, are you 10 total?
Well, 8.
When I say total, it looks total.
Well, 10.
Wait, 10 face, 8 bodies, so total 9?
I don't know, whatever you can do.
Because that's the mid.
The math.
It's the average.
She's trying to get a little bit of a 10.
Should I just say 10?
Would you pick a message?
I remember a number for total.
10.
Okay, what about you?
B-Dog.
B-Dog.
I'd say my face in 8.
My body is 6.
I don't know.
Okay.
Total?
Oh.
I said 6 on the paper, but maybe like an 8.
Okay.
Okay, I'll just put 8.
What about you?
Like face 6, body 8, total 7.
Wait, I'm sorry.
Could you repeat?
I was distracted.
Maybe like my face is a 6, body 8, total 7.
Okay, what about you?
Just 10 across the board.
Say 10 face, 10 body.
10, 10, 10.
Well, you say it, though.
Oh, 10 face, 10 body, and 10 total.
Like 8 face, 7 body.
Is that what you put on the questionnaire?
No, I put 10 out of 10, but it really depends on the day, I guess.
Yeah.
Well, don't change.
Okay, what did tell us what you answer as if it was from the questionnaire then?
Okay, 10 out of 10.
We'll say 10 face, 10, body, 10 total.
10, 10, face, 10, body, 10 total.
Okay, what about you?
6.
What over?
Okay, what about you?
Face 8, body 6, which averages to 7, but we can round up to 8.
Y'all need to speak more highly about yourself.
I know.
I'm like, what is going on, girls?
Damn.
You know what?
I'm going to change my answer.
And confidence does make people way more attractive, too.
Yeah, I'm like, I wouldn't rate myself a six.
I'm just saying my body.
You know what?
That body is a 10.
All these women at the table, I have to adjust my answer based off of this.
I said 4.5 across the board.
I think I'm a 10 across the board, to be honest.
Period.
Period.
Slate queen.
And yeah, we love that for you.
It's good for you.
What made you change your mind?
Well, comparative analysis, but yeah, I don't want to be thinking that low of myself.
I'm a certified baddie, yo.
That's how you should feel.
Certified baddie.
Guys who are confident are like 10 times more attractive than guys who are like perfectly attractive, but like super insecure.
Okay, so eight, ten, eight, ten, ten.
All right.
Can you guys tell me for the eight, the ten, the ten, and the ten?
So it's going to be you two and you two.
Tell me a guy who you think is your, who's an, I guess, an eight for you, and then a ten, a ten, a ten for you.
Tell me a guy who you think is a ten.
Like a celebrity?
Yeah, sure.
Um, that Clavin guy.
I'm like, I don't know.
Pop.
Oh, no, I'm not saying Paz.
Oh, okay.
Can you come back to me?
Yeah, sure.
Ten guy?
The Ham Horse brother, the British guys.
Who the fuck is that guy?
Like the guy who dated Miley Cyrus.
Oh, wait.
Wait, really quick before I forget?
Thor.
Wait, super quick before I forget this.
Oh, yeah, yeah, Thor.
Didn't you do like a dating show called Dating Naked or something?
What's it called?
Yeah, I was naked.
I was naked on an island with like 10 people.
Was it Naked and Afraid?
No, no, no.
No, that's not dating.
Are you a nudist or was it just like a challenge?
Everybody was like day and naked, and the point was you don't judge them by what they wear and stuff like that.
That's when you get to your point.
Yeah, how they look and how big their parts are.
Wait, did any of you guys have like a small pen?
Yeah.
But it's not like.
It's not hard, though.
They don't show the nudity, though.
It's like only on Instagram because they got.
Oh, so the show itself, you do see the nudity.
Yeah, on MTV and Paramount.
Well, no, wouldn't they blur the nudity?
No.
Oh, it's at all.
I didn't know they could do it.
Day and naked UK.
Okay, well.
I wasn't looking.
I wasn't looking.
It was just jinkling.
I feel like.
Okay, well, whatever.
Wait, so the Liam Hemsworth?
Thor.
Chris Hemsworth.
Yeah, him, him.
Okay.
Tiffany, Google a photo of Chris Hemsworth.
I would not be able to answer.
I don't know.
You're a model, don't you know?
No, I don't.
My way of attraction is very nuanced, and I also don't even own a TV, so I don't really know what the stuff are.
Paul Walker.
I love Paul Walker.
Oh, you gave yourself eight.
Okay, Paul Walker.
Paul Walker's an eight.
No, I was saying you said 10.
Well, 10 for the women who've rated themselves a 10.
I'm looking for a guy.
Nobody would know who he is.
I don't know.
Well, she can look it up.
Here, let's really quick.
Why don't you have 11 on?
Okay, so this is Chris Hemsworth.
So this is a male 10 for you.
Do you like white guys?
Yeah, but I don't discriminate.
Okay, so you date black guys too.
Okay, so Chris Hemsworth, that's your looks equivalent.
And Zach Efron.
Okay, Google Zach Efron just to show the people.
I like pretty boys, but not too pretty.
They look gay.
Well, that's kind of talking.
So do you wear color contacts?
Obviously, yeah.
Okay.
Looks cool now.
Yeah.
It makes me like stand out more.
I don't know.
I think it's cool.
I don't wear it every day.
I wear it when I go out.
Do you have it, Tiffany?
Okay.
That's Zach.
Not even recently.
Yeah, old.
We get it.
We get it.
Younger Zach Efron.
We get it.
We get it.
I'm like, I'm more into nerdy types.
Okay.
Can you name a guy who's a 10?
Yeah, like Robert Pattinson, Timothy Chalamay, Killian Murphy.
Those are my top three.
You know what?
I think people know who these actors are.
We're not going to Google the photos.
I only know the Timothy.
Can you repeat the names?
It was Timothy.
Repeat the names.
Timothy Chalamay, Robert Pattinson's up there for sure.
Love Twilight.
And Killian Murphy.
Super cute.
Okay.
So that's your looks league.
Yeah.
Okay.
Did you think of a guy for you?
Yeah, I think Devin Booker.
Nope.
Um, why?
Who the fuck is that guy?
No, I just don't know who that is.
What about you?
You know what, basketball?
B-Dog?
I'm saying Timothy Chalamet with an eight.
Timothy Chalamet, eight.
Okay, and that's your looks equivalent.
All right, tell me a girl.
Um, tell me a girl who's an eight, a girl who's a ten, a girl who's an eight, a girl who's a ten, a girl who's a ten.
Starting with you, there's too many on my brain.
Just give me one.
Oh, Rihanna.
Rihanna.
Okay, we know what she looks like.
Give us a have the same answer.
I don't know.
You don't know.
Okay.
A girl who's an eight.
I don't know.
Is Megan Fox an eight or is she a 10?
Okay.
Give us a girl who's a 10.
I would say a little closer to mine.
I would say Naomi Campbell and Megan Fox.
Okay, Google Naomi Campbell.
So pretty.
And Megan Fox.
How you look like her.
And then who's for you?
I love Naomi.
He's for the woman.
I just had it.
Oh my gosh.
She's really awesome in real life.
You got this girl.
My brain.
Oh, just.
Do we need another popsicle break for these poor women?
They need another popsicle.
Actually, I'll probably order some food too.
A little matcha.
Oh, Dakota Johnson.
Oh, she's gorgeous.
Yeah.
Okay, so three people for you to Google.
Do you have the first two T-Dog?
Yeah.
Okay, so you said Naomi Campbell and Megan Fox.
Let's pull up Naomi Campbell.
Can you, at the very top, Tiffany, just type in young?
She's fucking old now.
No offense.
Looks like all these are.
By the way, you fucking misspelled Campbell, but I forgive you, Tiffany.
C Map.
There it is.
Okay, scroll down, scroll down.
Let's see a few more.
Scroll down.
Scroll.
Well, okay, well, maybe adult, you know, but okay.
We get it.
And then what's the other one you had?
You had Megan Fox.
Steady machine gun killer.
You're good.
She's so bad.
You have it?
All right, so we got Megan Fox.
We could have done young, but we will accept it.
Okay, scroll down, scroll down.
All right, Megan Fox.
So just to be clear, you Naomi Campbell and Megan Fox, that's your looks.
You're just as good looking as them.
You're different, but you're just as good looking.
Yeah, I would say.
You look like a mix of both of them.
Yeah.
Especially Naomi.
They're both really confident women, so...
Uh, okay.
And then you said Dakota Johnson.
I'll give you that.
You kind of look like her, to be honest, so I'll grant it.
Okay, wow.
Maybe like Timu?
Dakota Johnson?
Dating Asian Men Preferences00:05:36
Or we don't look like the same.
Or is she Timo, Timu you?
Timu sexy.
Maybe she's Timu you.
Maybe you mog.
I don't know.
Maybe.
All right.
Oh, okay.
Well, let's see if there's anything else on the looks thing.
I do have a question.
Poisonous.
Thank you for the membership, man.
Oops, what the fuck did I just do?
Wait, did I?
That's below the threshold, but thank you for the chat.
Appreciate it.
Poisonous, thank you for the membership.
I had a question for you, Julia.
Do you have like a racial preference?
Do you date like white guys?
Because I've had some Asian women on the show, especially recently, who said they prefer white guys or they don't prefer Asian men.
Do you feel that way too?
Yeah, that applies to me.
But I have dated an Asian guy, but he was pretty whitewashed.
I think, I don't know.
I think I find a variety of men attractive.
I think in a relationship, though, there's something about a white man that feels very compatible with me.
Okay.
Do you feel in terms of like looks, do you feel like you're not attracted to Asian men?
Is that part of it?
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not usually physically attracted to Asian men.
Okay, so even if they're otherwise great guys, you're just you don't feel that attraction.
Is that kind of what you're I have a question for you?
Would you rather would you rather date a black man or an Asian man?
A black guy.
Would you rather date an Indian man or an Asian man?
They're both Asian.
So yes, but Southeast Asian.
Okay, China versus.
Well, hold on.
But you would agree that Indian men differ in appearance than like Chinese or Japanese or Korean men.
True.
I think they're equally not my type, but I would probably date the Korean just because they'd be culturally, you know, would you rather date an Arab, Arabic man, or an Asian man?
Asian.
Would you rather date a Latino man or an Asian man?
Latino.
Would you rather date a white man or an Asian man?
White.
Okay, interesting.
I'm going to start asking this question more often.
So you would rather date a black man over an Asian man, though.
That's correct.
Okay.
All right.
Hey, look, you know, people have their racial preferences.
They do.
Do I have blue on my face?
Anywhere?
My cup, the ink on the cup, rubs off after a while.
So I need to replace it.
I think everyone has a preference.
Everyone has a preference.
I just find it interesting a little bit.
Look, I think people can have racial dating preferences.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Doesn't mean you're racist.
I don't think there's anything wrong there.
But I do find it interesting when Asian women aren't attracted to other Asian men.
Well, from like a historical lens, it's like historically, you go back 200 years and beyond.
If you were Korean, right?
Yes.
You never saw a white person ever in your entire life.
And it'd almost be somewhat like dysfunctional to not be attracted to your own race historically.
Because if you didn't find your own race attractive, that was the entire pool of men that was available to you.
I don't know.
I think I could use your same information to argue the opposite.
Because it's like if all you eat is white bread and that's all you know, and then you're introduced to waffles.
You're like, I like waffles.
You're like, but you like white.
But if all you had was white bread and you refused, you're kind of, not refused, but like you didn't find, you didn't have an affinity for the white bread.
It's like, well, are you just going to fucking starve to death?
In that case.
I don't know.
Maybe there's a novelty to it, like in ingrained.
I don't know.
Look, and again, I'm totally fine with people having, I have my own racial dating preferences.
I don't think I don't think it's racist.
I think it's totally fine.
But it is always interesting.
Like, it's like a pattern with some Asian women where they have like a like really, I don't know if it's a strong aversion, but they're like, no, oh my God, it reminds me of my brother.
I don't want to date an Asian guy.
I always found that kind of interesting.
Do you think you're talking about like American-raised Asian women though?
Because if you went to Korea, I think that wouldn't be the case.
Well, I would wonder if a white man living in Korea would fare better than Korean men in Korea.
I know like I think there's dating app data that was collected like a study done.
I think it's years old now, but the most common like interracial match that was made was not just white and Asian, but it was specifically an Asian woman and a white man.
There's a lot of discourse about like, is it because white men look submissive women or whatever, but I don't know.
It's data.
Well, there you have it, folks.
She does not want to date an Asian man.
Okay.
Yeah, that's good times, I guess.
All right, back to the looks rating thing.
Celebrity Crushes Revealed00:14:27
I should have, I forgot to say this.
Why don't average-looking women just view themselves as average-looking?
I agree.
I don't know.
Like, I think that, I don't know, everyone should be realistic.
Success?
That's my favorite thing ever.
I wish my voice wasn't gone.
Are you saying that average-looking women don't think they're average-looking?
Yeah.
Well.
Why are you looking at me?
I glanced at all of you as I did my little thing.
I don't know.
I mean, we got some, I think we had a couple women here who rated themselves a bit highly, if you don't mind me saying.
I'm just going off my profession, honestly.
All the success in it.
You're going off your profession?
Yeah, my success in my profession.
But did you ever see that Calvin Klein underwear ad where it was like fat people?
No.
And I'm definitely not that.
So no.
Well, no, I'm not saying you're fat, but just because you are employed in a profession.
Well, because I've been like told by lots of people who are highly influential in my profession.
So I think that might be your answer because these girls are being told.
Yeah.
I'm just, I'm basing it off of, again, experience like of what other people.
Well, we have women here who also rated themselves high, but they're not runway models like you.
I still think they're tens.
Am I?
Hold on.
Let's do it like this.
Do you think all women are tens?
No.
What's different about them?
They're just uglier?
Is that it?
No, I will be honest.
I think weight does play a role for me.
Okay, so they're fat.
So as long as a skinny, as long as a woman is skinny, is she a 10?
No.
Well, as long as she has a healthy body, is she a 10?
Yeah, healthy is kind of where I go for it.
Yo, just when I'm saying skinny, I'm not, I think some people sometimes think that that means like stick thin or anorexic or some shit.
But if a woman has a healthy body, regardless of her face, is she a 10?
I could say so.
I guess I just have to see.
I don't know.
I don't know how to generalize things.
I don't really spend the general credit.
Would I be a 10?
I mean, if I lost a little weight.
I have no idea.
I wonder if Luke slid into my DMs and he's like, yeah, bro, call me right now.
Oh, my God.
keep thinking about why are you hey yo Luke Hey, tell me what you want to do, Luke.
Send a DM on Instagram.
Hey, send me a DM on Instagram.
Whatever.
I don't care.
Hey, what do you mean you don't care?
He's your boyfriend.
What are you doing?
That's crazy.
Crazy talk from you.
Oh, my wrong.
Okay, good talk.
Yeah.
Good talk.
Where were we?
I totally forgot.
The looks thing.
Why don't average-looking women see themselves?
I did say that.
Thank you.
I want, you know what?
I want the women who are tens to rate me.
Just my looks.
I don't like.
Yeah, go ahead.
Give me a rating.
Every single person here is a 10 out of 10.
Even me.
I think, yes, and I think that everyone should also rate themselves a 10 out of 10.
I don't think that, I think that it's just good.
If Donald Trump was here, would you also say that?
Except for Darwin.
Did you vote for him?
No, I did not.
But I think he's a 10.
He's a beauty.
Personally, that was the one that I probably wouldn't rate a 10 out of 10.
I'm just like, do you want us to generalize or individualize?
That's the thing I'm going to do.
Give me a rating.
I mean, I don't know.
Okay, give me a rating.
I think she'll be honest, huh?
I think you're a seven, but your attitude makes you a five.
Oh.
Hey, it should.
I mean, I give myself a 4.5.
There's only...
I'm like, your attitude is what brings you up in attraction.
I think it's good for your mental to rate yourself a 4.5.
That is really hard.
You want to feel like a 4.5.
You want to feel more confident.
Well, that's also real.
Your self-perception isn't.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, it's really.
But that's just lying.
That's just.
Okay, maybe you have to lie, be a little egotistical.
It's okay.
Should I lie to get pussy?
No.
Should I be like on my dating app?
I'm 6'3.
No.
Look, I'm already 6'1.
I'm doing fine.
I'm not on dating apps, by the way.
Yeah, fuck.
Should I lie?
No.
Did I get some pussy?
No.
No, not about your head.
I'm just saying manifestation.
Like, you want to rate yourself a 10 out of 10.
You want to in the mirror and say that's what I'm saying.
You know what?
I'm good at rating people.
I don't know how to rate someone.
I'm like, how do you want me to rate you?
If a man had a micro penis and he rated his dick a 10, does that impact?
Is that going to manifest a bigger dick?
You always have to bring dicks to it.
And that's like an extra.
Because I'm homosexual.
Oh, man.
And that's so extreme.
You better.
That's like an extreme case.
Okay, I think it's good.
If you want to become a 10 or a 9, and you are actually a 4 or a 5, you have to know that you're a 5.
You have to know where you are to know where you're going.
Exactly.
If you're like, I'm a 10 and you're actually 4'5, you won't change anything.
Well, somebody could see you.
But if you're at 10 and 10, I guess that's enough.
But like, some people could see that person genuinely as a 10.
I guess, yeah.
Objectively.
Because each person perceives something.
Perfect.
I'm a 10.
I am so perfect.
Period.
You see this?
Keep set.
Keep saying that.
Well, you don't have to be perfect to be a 10.
Yeah.
I am on the weight loss journey, though.
And I'm fucking raw dogging that shit, too.
I'm not taking the fuck Ozempic.
I'm just going to talk about that.
Yeah, don't do that.
What about Retta?
What's the difference between Reta and Ozempic?
I feel like a lot of people in my life.
Just need to take workout.
Don't do any of that.
And change your eating habits.
Oh, yeah.
When you cut sugar out, it'll lose so much voice.
I've said that like five times, ten times probably at this point, but you should get a standing desk.
I do have a treadmill.
Do the walking, the treadmill while he's interviewing us.
I'm just like, but if you change your eating habits and you cut out sugar and you have mostly like less carbs and more protein, you'll drop weight pretty quick.
True.
True.
Luke, where are you in the fucking DMs, Luke?
Luke, Instagram, at whatever.
At whatever, Luke.
Tell me what you want me to say.
He doesn't want to do that.
Luke, tell me what you want to say.
Maybe he doesn't want to talk.
I don't know, Luke.
I'm sure he does.
Do you think he's watching the show?
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
What do we have to do?
I feel like we have to get through your show notes.
We got to do a couple things.
You didn't rate us.
Okay, I'll do that right now.
He's going to go to two.
Oh, God.
All right.
Two for everyone.
I don't care.
I don't care what I managed.
Tiffany, and then just change the split as I'm doing these as we're going around the table.
Okay, so you gave yourself, and also just to be, I want to say, it is hard to, I prefer to give a rating without makeup.
That's the true underlying appearance of a woman.
These women, some of them might have cosmetic procedures, they might be wearing makeup.
It makes it a little difficult to rate because I think makeup can bolster anywhere from one, two, three points, maybe sometimes more.
Okay, you gave yourself an eight.
Can you turn your face that way?
You have a good side profile.
I don't like my side.
Can you turn your face that way?
Okay.
You gave yourself an eight.
I think I'd give you 5.56.
You gave yourself a 10.
You're wearing color contacts.
You have a full face of makeup.
It's hard with the color contacts.
It changes things.
You've got full face of makeup.
You gave yourself a 10.
I think I'd give you between a 4 and a 5.
I still look the same without makeup, by the way.
Then why the fuck would you wear it?
Because I'm on a podcast.
So women wear makeup to look exactly the same, or do they wear it to look more attractive?
I like it.
I love doing makeup.
You enjoy putting putting chemicals on your face that can give you breakouts and it costs money.
For me, it's just a process.
I just have a lot of fun getting all dulled up.
And I'm just used to it from all the stuff I do.
In any case, if makeup didn't change your appearance for the better, women would not wear makeup.
Makeup clearly makes women look better.
You can still natural beauty enhance it.
No, I still would.
Some people look worse with makeup.
Yeah.
Well, very true.
That can be true.
I just like the process.
Like the same with my like million step skincare routine.
It's really just like I have fun being in front of the mirror.
I listen to my music, sometimes watch something.
I'm just like, I feel good.
I'm having fun, yeah.
I don't wear makeup every day.
I usually don't, but I'm like, it's just fun.
I don't think guys can understand that.
Honestly, it is fun.
It's a lot of fun.
In any case, though, makeup absolutely can make a woman, her perceived attractiveness be higher.
So, okay, like I said, you gave yourself a 10, give you four to five.
Brooklyn, you gave yourself an eight.
I, to be fair, I actually think, so sometimes a woman looks better on screen in person than she does in person.
You look better in person than you do on screen.
I know.
I think that myself.
So.
You definitely look better in person.
I think that's a compliment.
Well, you're going to have to decide if that's a compliment or an insult.
I think if you're saying I would be better in person.
But okay, you give yourself an eight.
I think the viewers, because they're seeing you, I'm seeing you in person.
They're seeing you a bit differently.
Again, I think I'd give you 5.56.
You gave yourself a 6.
You're not wearing any makeup, are you?
Like, very little.
Very little.
I actually think you have good baseline foundational aesthetics, to be honest.
So I think I'd sometimes I can be a bit more precise.
Sometimes I do a bit more of a leeway.
I think I'd put you somewhere between five and six.
You, you gave yourself a 10.
Let's see here.
Can I get a forehead check?
Pull it back, pull back.
Like, well, I have some tracks, so I don't want to do that.
You didn't have to do that.
I'm just fucking with you.
I was like, okay.
Yeah, it's okay.
You do do modeling.
And by the way, I'm just rating on face, by the way.
I'm not doing body.
You don't have to listen to all that other stuff.
Yeah.
I think I'd give you 5.5 to 6.5 in that range.
You, you gave yourself a 10.
You are wearing full face of makeup.
You have fake lashes on.
You've got the lipstick on.
You're contouring your nose, contouring your makeup.
I think I give you 5.
5.
You, okay.
I rated him a 10 out of 10.
Damn.
That's not nice.
Well, okay.
If you want to change it, you can.
But you think everyone's a 10, so it's meaningless.
For you, you gave yourself a 6.
you do have to be considerate to some degree of age when doing an assessment.
Um, I think I give you a, like between a four and a five.
Let's say that.
Julia, you gave yourself a 7.
Look in the camera for me.
I think, Julia, I give you between a 5.5 and a 6.5 in that range.
So those are the looks ratings.
And I give myself 4.5.
So.
Can I ask who your celebrity crush is?
And like, yeah, I'm just kicking.
I'm just curious.
I mean, celebrity crush.
I mean, when I was young, when I was like, I don't know, much younger.
No, now.
I'm like, now I don't think I've got that.
You don't have a celebrity crush.
I don't really have that.
Yeah, neither do I. Give us a 10.
A female.
So, and the celebrity crush I do have, I wouldn't categorize her as a 10.
Same.
But.
Who is a 10?
Nobody's a 10.
You're a 9, but nobody's a 10.
10 is 9.
10 is perfect.
Okay.
Megan Fox.
Maybe we'll go.
I mean.
Why is that everyone's go-to is Megan Fox?
I think Elite.
So 9.5, you could maybe point to Adriana Lima, Jessica Beale, Brooke Shields.
Wait, did I say Jessica Alba?
Or I said Jessica Beale.
Jessica Alba.
My personal crush that I had, though, when I was younger was Kristen Krueck.
She's she was in.
I mean, she's older now, but she was in the show called Smallville.
So, I mean, she's like in her 40s now, but I'd still have the Washington girl.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, I don't think she's, I don't give her a 10, but she was my crush.
Oh, she's really pretty.
Very pretty.
Very pretty.
Jessica Alba Or Kristen Kreuk00:05:05
So, I don't know, maybe I...
Yeah, yeah.
Well, we don't have to pull anything up, but.
So we're all on the same knee.
He said, I'm concerned right now.
Because, you know.
And we have the same number?
Well, I'm talking about face.
It was a face.
I wasn't sure.
Just face, not the body?
Just face.
Yeah, I mean, I'd say body.
I'd say body because you're a bit more trim.
I mean, I don't care.
I don't take your judgment.
Like, it's my judgment.
No, I was like, oh my God, I need to date people like you.
Whoa.
No, it's not in a suit at all.
It's just like, because, yeah, like, we don't look the same.
We just have blue eyes.
You don't have to date somebody who you look at.
Because that's what you say.
Well, the rating, like, you were asking them as far as like.
Looks the same and looks equivalent is different.
When you say that.
So the same number.
That's what I mean.
Like, yeah, same number.
That's why you were asking all of them, like, rate a male actor or personal that has the same number.
So you would, do you think you'd be settling for me if we were to date on the looks front?
No, I already said no to that.
Wait, what?
No, I would not.
Wait, hold on.
I'm confused.
Because what you were saying, so you're saying I would be settling for you, or you would be settling for me?
No, you just put me on the same number or like, yeah, same number, basically.
And you don't feel like that's fair or accurate.
Do you think you're below or higher?
I was just mainly joking about it.
Yeah.
Okay, but do you think you're below or higher?
I'm just trying to understand or not.
I'm just like, I thought that was a total and not just a face, which is okay.
That's fair.
Well, I mean, yeah, I guess.
I mean, you're.
Okay.
Is there more?
No.
That's all.
I just had my rent to say.
Okay.
Also, wait, really quick, guys.
So I'm going to do this segment.
Oh, somebody skipped, Rude.
Chris Love, you.
Oh, wait.
Are these out of order?
Oh, no, they're not out of order.
You didn't do the back, Chris Love.
Is that your name?
Yep.
Like, legal government name?
Okay.
Chris Love.
So, guys, here, wait, Tiffany, show the window that already has this to show them on the full screen.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
This thing, Tiffany?
Show the window tab that has that?
It's like one of the last tabs or whatever.
Do you have it?
Okay, pull it up really quick.
Either one.
Just whichever one.
Show it.
The first one.
I had the girls do this test.
Go ahead.
Pull it up.
Pull it up.
Okay.
So that's the test.
The water level test.
So.
That didn't look right.
I'm going to show it here.
Hold on.
How do I do this the best?
Oh my God.
This is.
Oh, maybe I do it here, like this.
Oh, yeah, that's great.
That's way better.
Okay, pass.
This is a pass.
So this is in order of.
Hold on.
Oh, my God.
I'm retarded.
So as I'm showing, it's going this way.
It's going this way around the table.
Okay.
All right.
Let me get that to the.
So that's a pass from Julia.
A pass from the French gal.
Pass from the 10.
I think that this is a fail.
This might be a fail.
That's a fail for you.
Well, I was just thinking because of this.
You see?
I think this is also a fail from my favorite terror about it.
This is.
I'll give this a pass.
That's a pass.
Chris Love just didn't even do it.
I mean, can we actually test this?
And this is kind of with a cup.
Like, let's actually do it with a cup.
I'll accept it.
I'll accept it.
Yeah, I'm getting it.
I was crying.
I hate that.
Oh, and then, because I fucked it up, I forgot to do it last show.
Two women last show, just I'll show them, fucked it up.
So that's that's about as fucked up as you can get.
You see the line there, that is not how that works.
And then I don't know what the fuck that is.
That is completely scuffed.
It's really funny.
So, yeah.
All right.
Good talk, guys.
Good talk.
That was good.
We put all of you through AI.
I know.
We saw this.
No, not that.
Really?
I don't know anything.
Gender Swap In Catification00:15:50
What's the product?
Luke, I am your father.
Okay.
Star Wars.
Hello?
I say his name is.
Okay.
Do you have all the AI?
Do you have two batches, T-Dog?
Two batches?
Yeah, like there should have been two groups, I believe, of AI stuff.
Let me see.
Oh, my God.
I hate AI everything.
Yeah, so there was the gender swap.
I'm not scared.
I just think it's dumb.
And then there was the beautification.
Alright, now we have a gender swap in our catification.
Okay, so here, while I do a few things, can you pull up the subsequent ones?
It's the beautification.
What images are you guys using?
Just from the stream.
Oh, just from the stream.
Off-guard pictures.
What?
That's not fair.
I don't want to be posed.
No, so there's gender swaps, and then there's the beautification.
Which do you have already?
The gender swap.
Okay, add the beautification to the tabs.
Okay, hold on.
We have a TTS coming in while she's doing that.
Glocktavius donated $200.
Thank you, bro.
Appreciate it.
My sprinkler goes like this, like this.
Thank you, Gloctavius, for that.
Thank you very much.
Guys, if you're enjoying the stream, like the video, like the video.
We're getting into some interesting topics now.
A lot of these girls have some pretty interesting stories.
We're going to get into those.
We got some shit from the questionnaire that we're going to hit on.
And then, yeah.
Do you have it?
Yeah.
Is that all of them?
Okay, so the question is for the women, would you date the male version of you?
We've put all of you through AI.
We've made you men.
We've given you penises.
Don't worry, the penises are not visible.
Okay.
Yeah.
What about the bulls?
So the question is, would you date the male version of you?
You got that ready?
Okay, go ahead.
Chopped ass man, bro.
That doesn't look like a root.
Would you date the male version?
Why did it make me?
You know, chopped.
Yeah, it did make you.
I would be shredded as a man.
Yeah, my eyes are gray in that.
I have a brother.
Did you date him?
I have a brother, no.
Sometimes the AI is not perfect.
It's like almost never perfect.
Kind of like you.
Do a little bit.
It does, honestly.
A little bit.
You could be my dad.
I'm not into that.
I'm not into that.
I don't know.
You girls want to do the like the daddy thing.
I'm more into like sir.
I like sir.
No, I know, but like she said, like, I don't know.
You mean like daddy, right?
You mean like saying daddy?
Yeah, I don't like a girl to say daddy.
She can call me sir.
Yeah, I like sir.
She can call me sir or master.
That's it.
I like those two.
That's it.
Those are my first name.
Master.
Yes.
You would call your man master?
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
Master with your first name.
I'm like really into dumb submissive stuff.
Okay.
Wow.
No, I would not date him.
It's low-key, though.
Now I guess not.
Okay.
All right.
Would you date the male version of you?
Oh, I look like my brother.
Well, that's not your bro, though.
They're making all of us like 50 pounds heavier.
I know.
Like, she is not that bad.
She's modifying us.
Yes.
Honestly, though, some of these AI systems do do that.
They really do.
So yes or no?
Yes or no?
No.
Okay.
Next.
I feel like you're going to look very unique.
Bro.
You look so tired.
Yeah, I'm like, girl, you look sick.
Girl, you went through some hard times.
You went through some hard times, girl.
See that again?
Don't even worry, girl.
Look at the second one.
I'm just like, wait, wait, hold it back up there long enough.
There we go.
I was like, we only see five seconds.
Man.
Would you date him, Brooklyn?
I gotta be honest.
Whoever's fucking doing these, they're being a little too harsh.
Sometimes this is like a little too harsh.
You don't look at all of that.
I think a little harsh.
I think whoever's next time, you gotta be honest.
It's just making us gain weight.
Pretty much.
Oh, my God.
Girl, hey, you're handsome.
I know.
I mean, I'm looking at you.
Girl, I would date you.
Oh, my goodness.
I would date you.
No.
At least you're still.
Wait, this guy kind of.
Stop it.
Take that picture off.
Why'd they pick that one of me?
This guy kind of bugs, though, to be honest.
No, he does.
Ew.
No, I would date him.
Not my type.
Ew.
I would date him.
What?
That guy mugs.
His face is too skinny.
His jawline's like too small.
Oh, my God.
No, he's handsome.
I don't like the beard.
How about the other women?
Would you date him?
Yes.
The second version.
Yeah, second.
Yeah, the second version, yes.
What?
He looks like a bitch.
He looks like a bitch.
To me, he looks like a bad one.
He looks like a nice, wholesome guy.
He's devious.
Like, he'd be fun.
Yeah, he looks like a nice, wholesome guy.
He looks like he'd like have a dungeon and tie you up.
I like him even more now.
Spoons to the table.
Like, I think I like him more.
All right, next.
Oh, my God.
That was scary.
Oh, come on.
You were telling me.
No, not even my brother looks like it.
I'm like, not even my brother looks like you.
Skin color.
No.
Okay, yes or no?
Would you date him?
No.
Okay, look, whoever's fucking doing these.
It's awful.
Come on.
We don't even have the same facial shape.
Dude, nothing was like the same at all.
Not even the same skin color.
You've over-corrected because what they used to do, it made the guys look better, but now they've over-corrected and now the guys are not.
I don't think the guys except for you have been equivalent.
I know.
I'm like, I want to put it back on the screen longer.
I mean, it's like only there for five seconds.
I'm like, come on.
That does not look like me at all.
I wouldn't look like that even as a man.
And I have a brother, so I know what I would look like as a boy.
Him and I look very similar.
All right, next.
What?
Oh, my God.
Girl.
Come on.
Come on, guys.
They're all chubby.
They're all chubby and sad.
Do you see this girl?
Look at this girl.
This girl weighs 95 pounds.
And right?
He doesn't know.
We actually have a scale in front of Juan.
Oh, my goodness.
Does anybody want to weigh themselves?
For what purpose?
Yeah, I know.
I'm like, if there was like a purpose, or we had like a majority of the money, well, you know how like sometimes girls put like a height marker on their door.
Like, if he's not this tall, I won't date him or hook up with him.
You know, I think you should have a lot of people.
Have you seen those street interviews with this guy named Lenny?
Bro, he did it to me.
Oh my god.
Wait, was it staged?
No, it's rigged.
The scale is 30 pounds heavier.
That's so funny.
And he was like, fine, I'll unrig it for you.
And then he was like trying to say that I'm fat.
And I was like, was it a collab or did he just run into you?
No, we live in the same area.
It's on the street.
He actually posted one right recently.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Do we get a prize?
He's broken.
Why are we like doing it?
Why are they all eyes?
Why did the pictures like that?
I guess they feel like men are dead.
He was 97 pounds.
Like, come on.
She, she, anyways, whatever.
Like, they distorted her.
The beard looks better than the non-beard.
Oh, my God.
Like, see, girl.
Wait, that one's not.
Wait, wait, actually.
Wait, that one's like the most.
Hold on.
That's super fair.
That one's like the most bro.
Actually, he mogs.
He did not.
The eyes are what?
I think with the beard, he does look pretty good.
He needs a better haircut.
He looks like his camp tilt went down.
I will say, though, haircuts are like makeup for men.
A guy could go into a barber and come out sexy as fuck.
He looks better with the beard, but yeah, he mugs.
I think he just needs a haircut.
Yeah, the hair is like the most.
All right, here we go, Julia.
Let's do Julia.
What?
Oh, my God, girl.
I mean, I mean, the middle one, the middle one looks a little bit middle one.
Yeah, but maybe the middle one.
The middle one definitely does, but the one on the right.
No, we all know.
It looks like we came from the zombie show.
What is that called?
Yes, we look like we were just in the freaking walking day.
Is there a girl-ified version of you?
No.
Okay, good.
Well, the other thing that I noticed is so the lighting for you is flattering, whereas they darken, like there's more shadows.
There's like, it's like an overcast day lighting, whereas you have.
I don't know.
So there's that.
Okay, next.
What about you?
Oh, boy.
Here it goes.
Okay.
Okay.
Dude, she's bad as fuck.
You look awful.
She looks like a dude.
No, she doesn't.
Like trans.
No, she doesn't.
No, she looks like a tomboy.
Yeah.
Like a feminine woman who likes to dress masculine.
She got a big jaw.
To be honest, though, like one on the right, far right.
Giga Chad jawline.
We're going to pump out some like Chad sons, I guess.
So yeah, I date her.
Oh my God.
I date her.
Chad Jaw.
Yeah, I mean, she looks great.
What's the difference between the she her face is thinner?
No, her face is thinner.
It's the hair.
And it's not tucked behind her ear.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Okay.
Well, there you have it, folks.
There you have it.
Now, because we have so many beautiful women here.
What was that?
What was that?
What were you doing there?
Huh?
You broke my nail.
Help me.
In your titties?
Because you were like.
Yeah, it's press-on.
Oh, okay.
Oh, you just put it in your hand.
Because, yeah, I'm like, we lose that.
I don't know if this is going to work.
We're testing out a new segment.
We've beautified all of you through AI.
We've got some tens here.
Can you go beyond a 10?
Can you go beyond a 10?
We're going to beautify you.
And fuck it.
This is our first time doing this segment, but let's see how it goes.
Oh, boy.
Oh, pretty much like the same.
Stop, God.
Stop.
Okay.
You don't have to be mean.
I'm not being mean.
I'm just telling her to help.
She just looks AI.
So, you know, but like that woman could exist.
It just made that looks.
That does not look like my, like, I don't know.
Which one?
And your face a little skinny.
Yeah.
You know.
Why did okay.
All right.
All right, next.
Can we be posed in the next pictures?
This is you like in 10 years.
That is definitely off.
I think the only difference is that her eyes are open.
All right, next.
Yeah, thanks.
Okay.
You look like a surfer girl.
A surfer girl?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
feel like you look like that.
She looks like wavy hairy.
You just look like that in general, though.
Yeah, she looks like.
Never mind.
What?
Just say it.
Wait, I want to do it.
I know.
You were like all about how we need to say what we need to say and like all these things.
Like, come on.
Got to follow the rules.
You look like you would join a cult.
Oh, I could see that.
Yeah, I figured that out.
That's going to haunt you for the next two weeks.
What the fuck did he mean, though?
Why?
We're going to talk about this on my own.
I don't know.
I can see that, though.
Cult member vibes from you.
No, I don't.
That's not good.
No, it's not bad.
It depends.
Like, I'm personally starting a cult.
So like I said, I am trying to recruit B-Dog every day.
I'm trying to recruit a cult in blue.
Doesn't become B-Dog.
B-Dog.
B-Dog, yeah.
I like that.
B-Dog.
What's the cult?
Yeah, what cult would I say?
Do you have like a name?
What do I believe in?
We do sacrifices, actually.
Okay.
That's crazy.
What?
What are you sacrificing?
Lives?
Goats.
I love it.
What?
Wait, are you interested?
It seems like you're kind of wanting to learn more about the cult.
I'm just putting it out there.
Okay, next.
Ew!
I think she looks better than you.
Yeah, I like the way that you look.
Why did they give you a lazy eye?
Take that out.
I like it better when they're in the middle of the day.
Wait, look at me.
Look at me.
Look straight at me.
Do I have a lazy eye?
I made mine.
Stop it.
New insecurity umbrella.
They made her paint.
All right, next.
Oh, my God.
I don't like how I look like AI, though.
I just don't like the AI.
Next.
Yeah, I don't like it either.
It's like my face is disproportionate.
Bro, the first one isn't even you.
Yeah, it looks like my face is already AI.
It already looks like you.
The second one looks like you all of our first pictures.
Look funny.
It looks like the same.
Okay.
She's giving us eyebrows.
It's giving Chris Jenner a lazy eye.
Next.
Okay.
You look the same.
Yeah, but it was the same.
With a lot of makeup.
Oh, boy.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm saying.
This is going to be so cringe for me, but okay.
Go ahead.
Oh!
What?
You know.
You don't look.
That look doesn't match you and your personality very well.
I can't.
Is that guy a fuckboy on the 100?
Is he a fuckboy?
I don't know.
Maybe.
We got to ask you, are you a fuckboy?
Barbecues.
Are you a fuckboy?
That's rare.
Like he grills on the weekends.
Anyways.
Oh, that's a yes.
No, I don't do that.
Oh, that seems very sketchy.
I don't know if you're afraid of that.
Oh, I'm definitely.
I'm so sure.
I'm a virgin, actually.
I'm a 30-36-year-old virgin.
Have you just been going, have you just not been asking anybody out, waiting for them to come to you?
No, it's just hard out there, you know?
No, you know, I tried.
I tried once, you know, and it just didn't work out at all.
I tried.
Dudes are so lame.
You guys do it like one time, fall apart forever.
What do you mean?
Like, so many guys, like, they carry their trauma from their previous relationships into like so many aspects of their life.
So true.
Not just dating, but like other aspects, too.
Yeah, it's so true.
That's why I've decided to remain a virgin until the age of 36.
You know, I.
Yeah.
The world is missing out.
I'm sure.
Oh, yeah.
So many women just missing out.
But yeah, I don't know.
I'm going to wait until I'm 40 so I can claim that I'm a 40-year-old virgin and then lose it.
So I can be like, I made it to 40.
Handling Conflict In Relationships00:10:46
Your mom?
Don't joke like that.
I'm sorry.
Is she dead?
No.
She's married.
She's married.
Oh, fuck.
Okay.
Anybody have a single?
Does anybody have like a single mom?
A single?
B-Dog, you're not going to.
Her mom's so hot.
I'm sorry.
She's got some milk.
She is.
What about you got.
Uh-oh.
Sorry.
All right.
Shit, man.
And you'd be way too young for her, too.
Whatever, dog.
Whatever, bro.
Okay, let's get to it.
I need to step up for a moment.
I need to step away for a moment.
I need to take a little breather.
But you know what?
While we're waiting, somebody's in the bathroom, so I'll wait.
Here's what we're going to do, though.
We have the.
Wait, I have to wait until she's back, actually.
Fuck.
Frick.
That's okay.
Let me see if I can do any.
Julia, you're in an exclusive relationship with a man 15 years older than you.
You're about six months into the relationship.
You've known him since you're 23.
He's actually, he was your boss when you guys first met.
Okay.
Cool.
Good times.
All right, here, let's do some stuff.
Actually, you know what?
I got to get up and then we'll do some questionnaire stuff.
We'll read some of your guys's notes that you sent.
Why don't you guys?
I feel like I got to give them a prompt while I step away.
Otherwise, I'm like, I need a second to talk about it.
Otherwise, they're just going to talk about the weather or some bullshit like that.
I want to sit in silence.
All right.
Why don't you guys share the most toxic thing you've ever done to a guy?
Have fun.
I don't know.
I don't really have an answer.
We knew.
Yeah.
I don't do anything toxic.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Lies.
Yeah, I believe in car.
I mean, I've done a lot of toxic things.
Let's start with which one to start with.
Oh, I don't know.
Wait, talk into the mic.
Wait, I feel like him now.
Gosh, I don't know.
I'm just like a little toxic in general, you know?
Wait, so what's something you've done?
I mean, the drugs, you know, of course.
To a guy, though?
To a guy.
What?
I don't know.
Pass, you guys.
Pass.
Anyone else?
I'm sure there is one from one relationship.
I know.
I'm like, let me think of something like that.
I'm like, what?
I know you do.
Wait, give me an idea.
You know me.
I'm too nice.
Just kidding.
She is.
Someone else.
I'm someone expose you.
Yeah, don't expose me.
Okay.
Guys, we're doing really bad.
We need to keep this going.
Well, I just, I don't have anything to answer for this prompt.
I genuinely have not done anything toxic to a guy.
What about you?
I feel like you've done something really toxic.
Just being super historical.
Historical?
Hysterical.
Oh.
Yeah, like I had anger issues.
So being pretty angry.
Do you like fight them or do you like do something?
Like I was not.
Like you do stuff to their stuff.
Like you key their car or something.
Oh, no, no, no.
Like, just what they say to your face.
Like, you know, you just call them like Maybe not calling them nice, but just getting hysterical on stuff that doesn't, it's not a big deal.
And I just make a huge deal out of it.
Oh, wow.
Or like just a little talks.
So it's not really completely towards the men specifically.
It's just like getting completely out of control.
Do you throw things?
What's up?
Do you throw things?
I did with my first partner when I was like 19 to 23.
We were together.
What'd you throw?
I don't know, whatever.
Whatever's in your range.
Yeah, and like microwave and throw it.
Oh, no, I wouldn't go to that, like that.
Not the microwave, just like a chair or something.
No, that would be more like a, yeah, a cub that's on, like, not something.
You're just like grabbing the chair and like throwing it.
Wait, that's kind of like a music.
No, not a chair, but just a cup or something like that.
Like the small things.
That's how kind of stuff.
Yeah, and I would not hurt them.
Like, I've never hurt a man, like, you know, physically.
Yeah, you probably could.
So are you sure that the things you're getting hysterical about were like maybe justified?
Oh, absolutely not.
Like, that's why I had to work on me because I didn't want to get angry as much as I was.
I didn't want to, like, that hysterical and anger, like, throwing stuff was my first relationship with my ex-husband.
I was more verbally, like, and yeah, probably verbally abusive.
Like, I don't recall like any situation that could have been, but yeah, like, considering my behavior and who I was and like how I was, I would say that I have been very much like verbally abusive to them.
Yeah.
Do you think that you're French, right?
I am.
Do you think French people are more aggressive?
We might be more direct and passionate.
I love that.
Very much passionate.
Passion is definitely out there.
And I am trying to keep my passion.
Yeah.
But get my anger under control.
And.
How's that now?
It's awesome.
Good.
And my last partner, I was the toxic one with my husband.
I was definitely the narcissistic and the toxic one.
And then with my last partner, I got karma back.
And that was going to do it.
So it's cool.
Like, I appreciate both of those.
So how did you like.
So how did you heal out of that?
Today, very much.
At that point, how did you heal out of that?
How did I what?
Like go from those anger issues to being able to like, you know, not be like that anymore as much.
Because when it hurts, you realize that you don't want it for you and for that person anymore.
So it's just whatever it takes.
Like, yeah, self-awareness was one thing.
And I was like, okay, I need to know why am I angry?
Like, why, what triggers me?
And, like, work on those shit.
And then now I know better.
And I'm like, even if I get triggered, I'm just going to sit down, take a couple of deep breaths, and like, I, and I have way more self-esteem.
So it's like, I will just be like, hey, you know what?
That doesn't belong here.
And I'm like, I'm not wasting my time with that shit.
You want to be pissed That's fine, but I'm just gonna step away because I don't want that shit.
So it's just, yeah, I don't care anymore too much about what people could say or think.
And it's just so like, how do you guys handle conflict in your relationships or like dating?
Well, I don't date anymore, that's why it's like you don't want to date at all ever again?
I just like I get back to my dream of meeting the guys that like I want that, the type of relationship that I want, and I am waiting for that, like not waiting, but I am working to be the person that will deserve that guy as much as he deserves me.
And, like I was saying earlier, it's like well yeah, like if you want to be treated like a queen, you need to think of, like about yourself how yeah, and like how you will treat your king, your king as well, and I never really realized that.
So now I yeah, I just I still have some work to do and I know it.
So that's a fun part.
Oh yeah no absolutely, and I don't mind, like I, I don't mind waiting, I don't mind if it takes time, I just love the work.
I fell in love with myself and I got married with myself three years ago yeah, so it's just like for me.
It's yeah on the self, by looking for him, I looked for myself and now I have found myself and I just want to keep doing that.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, I'd rather be alone than be with a man who makes me feel less loved than I. Like love myself and like you don't, you'll never settle if you treat yourself like really well and love yourself.
Yeah absolutely, because I'm like, why would I?
That's what makes dating fun.
Is what with self-confidence?
I mean, unless someone brings that to you, brings what like as much love and self-love and self-respect, like if he looks at you the way you look at you in the mirror, that's the one you stay with me.
And when in my last, in my toxic relationship, like I got so upset and would get hysterical like you, like this girl, I just do not know and do not like like desperate and sensitive and fragile and um, it's because, like I just was so angry, I was like, how dare you do this to me?
And like I just felt like he had to make it right and he had to change.
I'll never do that again.
I just walk away.
At this point, I'm like I'm not going to like sacrifice my peace for a guy like that, and I also didn't love myself, which is why I stayed, because I'm like oh, I'd rather stay in this, because this feels better than what I think being alone would be.
Yes oh, my god please please, I'll have.
Yeah yes yes sure yes yes, yes.
Well, I was just curious, like how you guys handle conflict, like with the guys that you're dating as well as the guys who you're in a relationship with.
Let's do this because, not gonna lie, your conversation is fucking boring as fuck.
Why don't you guys?
Who here disagrees with somebody on something we're all agreeing from different angles?
Maybe that's gonna have an influence on how you conduct yourself in a relationship.
Where's the disagreement?
Okay, I mean, I would say I definitely would be considered more traditional and conservative in relationships.
So, raise your hand if you're like more conservative rather than liberal.
In dating, right?
Oh, I don't know.
Yeah, we're talking about dating politics.
No, we're talking about dating.
Wait, so what's the difference between dating as a liberal and not like liberal as in whichever one you are?
Yeah, would you the guy being the other one?
Would that be a deal breaker?
Wait, like if you're a liberal, would the guy being a conservative, would that be a deal breaker?
No, I didn't look even look at it as politics.
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You what?
I wasn't processing it as politics.
I thought you meant like in values in a relationship.
Yeah, like actual relationship, not politics, like political viewpoints.
But like, are you a conservative partner?
So whether you act like traditional organizations, yes, pretty much liberal, is everyone here like more traditional?
I am, but everyone is.
Who else is a guy?
I'm like American.
I think I don't know.
What do you mean by that?
Like, I'm very much like the female in the relationship.
I love to cook.
I love to think.
Andre, I love taking care of my man.
But I'm also like, I am a little wild and I like to go out and be independent.
The caveat.
I feel like everyone, who here wouldn't be like a stay-at-home mom?
I wouldn't, no.
You don't want kids, right?
Or you said you didn't want to kill kids.
But if I did have kids, I wouldn't want to be a stay-at-home mom.
Would you, like, wait, what do you do for work again?
I work for a tech company.
Okay.
So, who of you guys would be a stay-at-home mom?
Would you?
Oh, would you?
That sounds so fun.
I would.
Sometimes.
I know.
I can't wait to do it.
Just one time.
I love kids so much.
Yeah.
So if a man was like, I'd fully provide everything for you, you'd be like, no, I still want to work.
Yeah, I mean, I'd still want to work.
So, but I would maybe even like to do that.
I would still work out.
It's two things.
Like, I do want something that's mine and that I work on and stuff.
But also, if I had a kid and I didn't work for whatever, like 15 years, and our kids are teenagers about to go to high school, and my husband tragically passes away for some reason.
And let's say he's not very wealthy and doesn't have a great life insurance plan.
What the heck am I supposed to do?
Yeah, go out and find a job is what I have to do.
But how do I have people hire me when I've had 15 years of unemployment?
Yeah.
That's kind of the bigger reason, I guess.
And it's very realistic to build businesses that don't require you to work at places or 24, like, you know, at least with what I do, I'd totally be able to be a high earner while still being a stay-at-home mom.
So there are ways.
I guess it just depends on like what job you have, your kind of lifestyle you have, you know.
But I'd still want to work, though.
Wait, I forgot.
Would you want to be a stay-at-home mom?
Yes.
Would you still work?
Now that you said that, like, if they died or something, like, I would probably still, I would still work, but I don't think.
Or like, I would like to be like a Pilates instructor or something.
Do that like maybe a couple days a week.
But like, you know, if they die, then it's like you can afford.
I need to own business.
But also, I don't want to think about my husband dying, also.
But I guess you have to pay off the future.
Yeah.
Yeah, but you should always be thinking about that.
Yeah, especially if you're not going to be able to do that.
Yeah.
Just you should absolutely be thinking about that.
That's what we'll do long term.
Yeah.
At least that's what my parents always say.
Well, yeah, because finances.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
There's a lot of legal aspects to that, especially if you don't get a prenup.
I mean, even with a prenup, there's still a lot of paperwork and things.
Yeah, that's a good question.
Do you guys believe in prenups?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What if you make more money than your husband?
You know?
It's like a yes and no.
What other way around?
If the guy is super wealthy.
I don't know.
I just think it's good to have a prenup.
Like, I would feel so guilty too.
I'm like, you guys.
I see everything from someone and they worked so hard for that.
But also, I would just like hope that we weren't going to get married and hope in like seeing a divorce, you know?
Sure.
In the future.
Sure.
I don't think anyone gets married hopefully.
Hopefully.
But like I feel like it's just like a forever thing.
Like I wouldn't get honestly, I don't even know.
I believe in marriage, but like some people just like live life as boyfriend, girlfriend, you know?
Oh, like you've been with your boyfriend so long.
Like what's the point of even I mean a wedding and everything, but you don't need to do all that paperwork.
Well, I mean if you have kids and you have a home together and all types of stuff.
Leases, mortgage.
But it is what I came with.
The government becomes once you get married.
Married, yeah.
Yeah, I'm like, I would say yes and no.
The only reason why I say that is because based off the guys that I've dated, they would not want a prenup.
So I, and I would have to respect that because, you know, that's their.
They wouldn't want to prenup?
No.
Why?
I don't know.
They just never did.
They want, you know, they felt like they wanted to make sure that I was taken care of in the event that something happened.
Wait, what?
Like, they wanted me to be taken care of in the event that something would happen.
If that was the case, they would want a prenup.
No, because with the prenup, you're not designated, right?
Huh?
Like, prenup?
Okay, prenup is an agreement that if we get divorced under certain circumstances, this is what will happen.
Like, assets divided.
If you don't have a prenup, you're just leaving it up to the government.
And that can change anytime.
So if he really wanted, cared about you, and is like, I love her so much, like even if we divorced, like, I want to make sure she's taken care of.
Well, especially that traditional values.
I'm not going to be able to do more than what the government will probably give you.
It's just the traditional values.
Like, some people just view that as a part of tradition.
What?
Not having a prenup?
Yeah.
It's not normalized in traditional relationships.
I feel like even my family would be like, why are you getting a prenup?
It's just more traditional not to.
That's true.
The fuck.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Continue.
And I'm like, I live by that.
Yeah, I'm like, traditional through and through.
Is it?
What even is it?
Yes, Luke is calling.
No, I'm at that.
Oh.
I don't know.
I think he's ordering pizzas.
Okay, cool.
Good.
I'm so hungry.
I know, man.
Me too.
Honestly, I'm like, I want to go home.
Like, I want to leave.
It's been running for five hours, I think.
But I think five hours, I think.
So it's probably like nine.
10:30.
10:30?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Oh, my God.
I got to go back to LA.
I know.
I'm like, I want to go home.
I'm drinking the right now, Mr. Chair.
I'm so tired.
All right.
Let's get into the rest of the topics.
What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
I just said $120,000.
Okay.
Into the mic, please.
I said $400K to $20 million.
I don't know.
That's a pretty big range.
I really don't know.
I do.
So is the minimum $400K or is it $20 million?
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's in between that.
I just picked up.
But so you would date a guy who makes $400K?
Yeah, I guess.
Okay, so that would be the minimum then.
What about you, Brooklyn?
I don't know.
I didn't even put in anything.
We'll just say something then.
Wait, what'd you say?
I said $120K.
Same.
She's so good for a cult.
She's a good little sheep.
She's so submissive.
What should my answer be?
WB Dog, W Brooklyn.
What about you?
In the South, if we're both working, you can make like 50K.
That'd be okay.
I have no idea.
I cannot answer that question.
Why can't, you know, I've noticed a pattern throughout this whole show.
Yes.
It's nuanced.
It's nuanced.
It's not.
Absolutely.
It depends on the guy.
So if the more attractive the guy is in other traits, the lessons.
No, no, no, no.
The less he can make.
But it's not about that.
If he doesn't possess certain traits, he has to make up for it by earning more money?
No.
At least not for me.
I'm sure for a lot of people, but no.
That's not a problem.
So would you date?
Would you date?
Because some guys are low earning right now, but like maybe they're in medical school.
Tiffany, could you open the door?
For a few years or down the line, you know, there are some people who have a business and I believe wholeheartedly in that business.
So I would maybe support them.
That doesn't mean I make a lot on my own, so I don't really have to search for that.
Typically, I have an issue when I do date guys who don't earn as much as me, but that's typically because it makes them feel insecure over time.
I don't really mind.
So that's why I'm like, I don't know.
I don't have like a hardcore number.
I pay attention to the man I'm dating, not all these other attributes.
So would you date a guy who makes zero dollars a year?
Zero?
No.
Because that means he's not working for anything.
So you do have a minimum then.
I just don't know what would that be.
Would that minimum bells?
I guess it just depends.
No, but it has to do with character and not how much he makes.
I'm just attracted to a certain type of guy.
Let's say his character is amazing, but he works at McDonald's.
Are you dating him?
I don't think that's a good character.
Why would that hold me?
Because if he has no plan past that, then I don't, I know.
So you can't have good character and work a fast food job.
Well, future projection, yes.
So character is tied to financial achievement?
No, just like goals, financial achievements.
Aren't there like billionaires who are fucking terrible people?
Oh, yeah, but I wouldn't say that.
And then there's guys who make $20,000 a year who are high virtue.
Yeah, but for me, high virtue includes their future projection.
So if it's a guy who works at McDonald's, they typically don't have a plan for the future.
I think a guy who works at McDonald's has the same capacity for virtue as does McDonald's.
But I'm not looking at that, though.
So that's what I'm saying.
I'm looking at that.
I'm not going to waste your trajectory.
I'm not going to do any wants, Congo.
What about you?
I don't know.
I said a mill, but I was kind of just joking because I don't have a specific number.
You did write a mill.
That's a joke.
Well, I mean, I have to take that seriously.
I mean, period.
Well, okay, but the minimum yearly income, that is the question.
What is the minimum?
By the way, guys, don't be upset at me that we're going to go late tonight when people can't just give me straight answers.
Go ahead, answer the question.
A million dollars.
Okay, so is that the answer?
Minimum yearly income.
Yeah.
So a guy who makes $500,000, you won't date him.
No, I would.
Do you know what fucking a minimum?
Oh my God.
I'm actually tilted.
Hold on.
I got to get up again.
Do you know what minimum fucking means?
It's just such a superficial question.
I don't know how to respond to that.
It's not superficial.
It is extremely.
What do you think?
I'm like, I just don't have one.
But maybe we can move.
You can say zero, right?
Move on.
What about you?
Let's wait for Brian to get that.
Oh.
Well, he said he needed a break, so.
Whatever.
You guys can answer it.
Yeah.
I was just kind of joking.
I just thought it was funny.
I just put a mill.
Okay.
And what about you?
And I said, it doesn't matter the number.
It matters the mindset.
Exactly.
That's what I was trying to say.
Fucking cope.
It matters.
Okay.
Well, he's got to have a billionaire mindset.
He's got to have a millionaire mindset.
Okay.
What do you mean?
I just agree with you.
Okay.
Do you have a minimum that you wrote down?
Me?
No.
No.
The mindset matters.
Okay.
Let's say he's got a great mindset and he works at McDonald's.
Are you dating him?
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
What about you, Julius?
I said about the same as what I meant.
Which is what?
Right now?
Yeah.
More than 75K, less than 125K.
Okay, pretty reasonable.
So $120K for you, $400,000 to $20 million for you.
Which is ridiculous.
Both answers.
And then, Veronica, you said a million, a million dollars.
So, just to be clear, Veronica, just for clarification, will you date a guy who makes $500,000?
I mean, realistically, yes.
Can you speak into the micro?
Okay, so the minimum is what?
I just want to.
The minimum is what?
I don't know.
I don't have a specific one, I guess.
But it's not a million if it's not a million if he would date a guy who makes $500,000.
Would you date a guy who makes $100,000?
Would you date a guy who makes $50K?
Sure, is he nice?
For sure.
$20K?
Probably not.
Okay.
Going to the woman who wants $400,000.
So you do.
That's like, I think maybe it's a bit higher now.
Maybe it's $500,000.
That's a top 1% man.
Someone who makes $400,000 a year, that's a top 1% man.
Are you a top 1% woman?
The words that came out of my mouth is what I mean.
Are you a top 1% woman?
I mean.
I know, kind of.
I don't know.
Okay.
Do you think a guy who makes $400,000 a year, do you think, you know, how old, what's the age range of men you're willing to date?
30 up to 60.
Okay, if you do go older, maybe you'll find a guy who's willing, maybe willing.
The thing is, is that most men who make this much money, again, you did go older there, so that's your leeway.
Men closer to your age, between the ages of you're 28, right?
Between the age of 25 and 40 who make $400,000 a year, they have pretty good options, and they're not going to date a stripper.
You're incorrect because mostly that's what the guys I date.
But you're not a relationship.
Uh, you're 28, you've not had...
And I'm not just a stripper.
I'm a licensed hero.
Okay, I understand that you're other things too.
Okay, well, you know, drug dealer, but he also gives to charity.
Okay, wonderful.
The stripper thing is the sticking point.
It's going to be a sticking point for a lot of men.
Men who make that much money, that's a very small proportion of men.
I'm not saying that money is everything.
Women go after other traits besides money.
But men who are high earners tend to be generally more appealing to women.
Again, not saying it's the only thing women care about.
Women care about other traits too.
Men who make $400,000 a year, they have probably decent optionality.
They have decent choice.
Why would they date a stripper?
That's fine.
Like I said, I date those type of men all the time.
Okay, but you have to understand there's a difference between relationship and marriage interest and lust interest.
So just because, like, women's metric of success is who you can get to commit to you.
Men will take you on dates in furtherance of having sex with you once, twice, three times.
Who will commit to you?
Who will wife you up?
Who will give you a ring?
Who will give you children?
Who will be in a relationship with you?
I don't doubt that you go on dates and can, if you wanted to, sleep with men who do make this much money.
The question is, will they wife you up?
Will they be in a relationship with you?
I mean, I think the people I've been with, their mindset is she's a go-getter, she gets her money, she's young.
This is not a career goal for the rest of my life, it's just to stack up, which I've been really smart about.
Male Logic On Commitment00:10:36
Most people who are dancers spend their money on drugs and stuff, so okay.
I mean, look, again, I'm not saying you should be mistreated, not saying I'm not saying that.
What I'm saying, though, is that these men who make $400,000 have typically good options.
That's fine.
I disagree, and I agree with that.
So, okay, well, I mean, all right.
I don't know.
What do the women here think?
Do you think a guy who makes $400,000?
Well, let's do a callback.
Is she deserving of being in a relationship with a guy who makes $400,000 or more a year?
If that's what he wants, what asks the guy?
Well, I mean, from a guy logic, I would say, like, from guy logic, then probably no.
Most guys who earn that much like prefer traditional lifestyle.
Do you think us a world-class, beautiful, 10 out of 10 supermodel who's smart and intelligent, do you think that she is going to go for an overweight guy who plays video games all day?
Well, I would, so yes.
No, I've dated guys like that.
Why?
So, yes.
Yeah, it depends on the person.
No, and I would say yes.
And I think that's very interesting.
Overweight guy that plays video games.
I have dated someone like that.
Let me add some other qualifiers.
Well, he did a lot of other things too.
It wasn't like his whole entire life was just in front of the camera.
What I'm trying to get at here is, oh my God, so bad faith.
All right.
I'm not even going to bother.
I just, I literally dated someone like that.
So that's what I'm saying.
And I don't have anything bad to say about that.
Okay.
Do you think most models, model women, do you think?
Okay, let me ask it like this.
As someone who's there backstage, yes.
Because they prefer guys who are not as attractive.
That's what they say.
Okay, whatever.
Dude, beautiful women have an abundance of options of men.
If you have an abundance of options of men, do some of your options include really attractive men with good jobs and good personalities.
Then why the fuck would that beautiful woman choose to date an unattractive guy who's broke and sweet all day?
What the fuck?
Well, you didn't add all that other stuff.
This is like common sense.
Why do I have to do it?
Well, you didn't add all the other stuff the other way around.
Yeah, you didn't bring any of that part into it.
You just said if he plays video games and is overweight, you're telling me that most women who are in shape who are beautiful.
Fine, we'll just use the criteria I used.
Most women who are beautiful, given that they have an abundance of options and they probably can date men who are fit and have nice bodies and who aren't playing video games all day, the two things I gave you was overweight and plays video games all day.
You think if given the option, beautiful women would rather would sooner date the fat video game player over the fit guy who has other things going on in his life?
Yes.
No.
Only based off of my own conversation.
You're fucking delusional.
I'm just telling you what we talk about backstage.
We're not a model.
Holy shit.
I'm telling you what we actually talk about backstage at the show.
You're not a model.
So you're asking us to generalize.
I'm not telling you what we talk about.
I know beautiful women.
Yes, but I'm telling you what we talk about backstage.
So backstage women.
Women who are models aspire to date.
It's not about aspiration.
They feel as though guys who aren't as attractive will treat them better.
I'm not saying I think that's right.
That's fucking bullshit because you asked your girls what they say.
Girls will tell you even the ugly dudes treat them.
No, but I'm telling you what they say at my stuff.
If the guy can't treat them, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing.
Treat the fucking good.
But you're asking me what people are saying.
I'm telling you what people are saying.
I can only go.
I'm like, I can only go based off experience.
I don't hang out with general people.
All the pretty women that say they prefer guys who are not attractive.
Okay, what they say.
Fuck what they say.
Look at what they do.
Beautiful women.
Boyfriends are ugly.
Hold on.
Their boyfriends are fucking chubby video game players versus, and they rejected men who are like fit.
Yes.
Because we're models.
We don't like those guys.
I'm telling you, we spend all of our time ugly guys.
No, we don't want to date other models.
I'm telling you.
Like, if you were to be backstage, yeah, but if they look like one, we typically don't go for them.
That's my trying to say.
That's like insecure stuff.
Oh, yeah.
I agree.
I'm just telling you what they say.
Do you believe her?
I believe her too.
You see, there's a difference between Trump.
They're different.
I'm like, it's not like you're understanding not the difference.
I'm giving you objective data from my personal experience.
I am not saying I agree with these things or not, but I am someone who does these things and I know what they say.
So you asked a question.
I'm answering it that yes, they do.
Like I personally have noticed that and they talk about it.
When you say they do, so I'm not denying that there might be, I'm not saying no women ever do this.
Well, you said models specifically.
No, but I'm not saying that that is an impossibility.
But I would, if I was a betting man, I would say more often than not, a genuinely beautiful woman does not aspire to date an obese video, like video game player.
They don't.
I just don't aspire to date.
I think most beautiful women, most, I'm not, some women might want to date a chubby guy.
They might like his personality.
They might like whatever.
I want to argue that most beautiful women want to date handsome men who have a good physique.
Well, you just give me a specialty.
Is that very specific?
Like, do you think my truth maps onto reality more, or does your truth map onto reality?
Well, in my personal reality, that is not true.
But I don't know what the general people do.
I literally spend my time in like kind of circles.
I don't believe it.
I know you don't, but that's fine.
You don't need to say that.
So you're telling me, like, you know, all these girls who model and you've seen their boyfriends.
Yes.
And they are like sometimes ugly, sadly.
All types of stuff.
Most of them are single.
So I'm like, you know, the only ones who are I know who are in relationships, yes, their boyfriends are not attractive.
And most of them do have jobs that require them to be at home most of the time.
They typically prefer guys like that.
So that's why I'm saying, like, it's a whole thing that we talk about.
So just like one bullet point, you think about it.
Women who are models would rather date a guy who's 300 pounds versus a guy who's 180.
I mean, I'm not saying.
Is that in your position?
No, I'm just telling you what it's said backstage.
They would choose somebody who's less attractive absolutely.
Can I ask the, I'd like to ask the other women here.
Of your beautiful friends, do they gravitate towards overweight men or do they gravitate towards men who are normal, physically normal?
Yeah.
I don't think any girl has ever, well, not ever, any girl, but like none of my friends or any girl I've met has been like, I want a fat guy that plays.
This does sound familiar, but it sounds like insecure women.
Oh, yeah.
And I don't know.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
I'm just telling you what they say.
I don't agree with it.
And I don't think objective is a certain amount of people.
It's a majority at all.
Well, I only know I only spend time in model circles.
So I can, that's why I said I don't know what the general and you would say in your model circles that's a lot of people are insecure.
Yes.
And date.
Are you surprised?
This is a modeling industry.
Yes.
They are some of the most insecure people in the world.
Like, what would you rate these guys?
Like, she's a 10, what are they?
Probably like a five or less.
Didn't you say when we were doing this, everyone's a 10?
Yes, but in realistic, what you guys are talking about, then yes.
Yeah.
If we were going based off of what society standards are, then yeah, that's what it would be.
Yeah, that's what we're talking about as society.
Exactly.
Other women want to win on this channel.
I do modeling work.
I usually do like to go after like fit, attractive guys for the most part.
I'm not seeking out a fat man.
I think it's a good idea.
Does people actually seek out men?
Like, I just don't, like, I'm like, I do not seek out men.
I think you're misunderstanding what we mean by seek out.
The men probably are approaching the women and the women select the men who sound so mad, right?
Okay, but all right.
Apparently, the group of women you are aware of that influence.
I like insecure, yes.
Well, a woman could be insecure and still want to date a hot guy.
I don't know.
None of these women, no, I'm telling you.
I mean, I wish you could come backstage with me, but I can only go based off of what my friends and the people I'm around say.
So, you know, I can't really go based off of opinions I've never heard until now.
Yo, Tiff, can you head down?
Yeah.
Hold on.
One second.
I think like most people.
A lot of, there are a lot of attractive women who do modeling work.
I always see them and I'm like, girl, you can do a lot.
Oh, yeah, all my friends.
That's why I'm saying I'm like, no, this is a big thing.
I don't know.
It's always like not too heinous, I guess.
My experience is.
It's never like a zero and a 10.
I don't know.
It's always just.
Yeah.
Either a little bit.
I'm like, whoa, there.
But like, what super model is dating?
Like, like an actual supermodel?
Like, you know them, right?
Like, I don't mean no, I don't know.
I don't know.
Most of them are single.
That's what I'm trying to say.
They don't have good dating experiences.
Dating as a model is like almost impossible.
It sucks.
It's extremely difficult to date as a model.
Most guys are, as he literally writes.
Runway or what's the modeling?
Runway.
Runway and editorial.
Okay.
So, you know, I've had like billboards, been on every top magazine you could possibly think of.
I've been on it.
But it's just like people, whether it's girls who I try to befriend or guys that I date, they stigmatize me pretty quickly.
And then because of that, it becomes very difficult to see me as a person outside of whatever the viewpoints they already have are.
A lot of guys, they like the idea of dating a model who's been published and all these things.
But then once it comes to like actually getting to know me, it's like they can't see past that.
They just want to talk about the modeling and how I've done this and that.
Or like, it's never like more than that.
I mean, it can be, but I just don't feel like they really see me as much as they do.
Yeah, what are they missing?
Like, what are they not seeing that you would want a guy to see?
I guess just that it's okay that you could also be intelligent and pretty.
Most of the time, they just expect me to be a ditz all the time.
And then when I actually say things or talk about my interests, I'm really into robotic engineer, for example.
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So I start talking about stuff like that.
It's like a, oh, actually, like, you know, like they might just minimize it.
They won't say no, but they'll minimize my interests that are not tied to like appearance or modeling because of that.
So just kind of a lot of minimization, not being taken seriously in certain ways.
But that's why I'm so upfront on day one because I can pretty much weed out a guy like that pretty quickly.
So I don't waste my time.
The guys I actually stay with are obviously the polar opposite, but I do get that experience a lot, unfortunately, most of the time.
Would you say modeling is like a majority of your life and your identity?
No.
What other things?
I'm like my probably my social media, but I'm mostly a writer.
Oh, okay.
Oh, I haven't heard you talk about that once.
I mentioned it.
He just didn't ask any questions.
Poetry?
No, no, no.
I'm a philosophical writer.
So I release content like pretty much about the human emotions, the human experience, and also just encouraging others to also be okay with authenticity within their own personal lives, as well as how to cultivate joy from within.
Where did you learn all this?
You just sound like it's, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm just rehearsed so much.
Are there like, is there one or two schools of philosophy that really resonate with you?
Like that?
No, just Quakerism.
That's it.
What is it?
Quakerism.
My belief system.
Oh, okay.
We live by a scholar.
Philosophy, like a school of thought, the way you think.
No, I wouldn't follow anybody else's way of thinking or being.
So it's your own school of philosophy that you write?
Yeah, pretty much.
I wouldn't want to write about other people's ideas.
I'd rather talk about mine and see who gravitates towards it.
Yeah, it's your mind and your ideas, but if you're talking about philosophy, like philosophy doesn't have to be academic, though, is what I'm saying.
I exit just burped.
It's okay.
It doesn't have to be academic.
Philosophy.
I mean, philosophy existed before academia even existed.
So that's how they do that.
So yeah, I just don't see the reason to study somebody else's.
I'd rather just do my own thing.
You know.
I don't want to study another philosopher.
I'd rather become my own one, essentially.
Wait, what's your zodiac sign?
Scorpio.
Ooh, I love Scorpio's.
What is yours?
I'm a cancer.
What about water signs?
Water signs?
I don't know.
All I know is I'm a Scorpio.
Scorpios are cool.
Like emotions.
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Really?
Yes.
I looked into, like, I only look into zodiac signs if like I'm talking to a guy.
Oh.
Do you have a story about like a before your girl boyfriend likes some story about does anybody remember the notes that they sent?
No.
I do.
Oh my god.
Wait, it wasn't about a beach.
The beach?
Oh, I guess he wants.
I don't know if he's talking about this story.
I think something that has to do with astrology.
Oh, it wasn't horrifying.
I didn't even tell any stories.
I think I mentioned astrology, but I do love it so much.
Honestly, I didn't really put that much answers online.
Really?
It was like talking about your physics.
You put a lot in there, girls.
What?
It was like talking about your past dating.
Oh, my God.
I was like, what do I put here?
Yeah, I guess.
Some guy, like, I went on this date and this guy only ate raw meat.
And I was like, what?
Raw meat.
Ew.
Yeah, I hope he's not watching this.
So what?
That's weird.
No, but I was seeing.
And he was telling me that eating vegetables was unhealthy for me.
And we were like, and he was literally just eating raw meat on the date.
And I was like, what the hell is going on?
Red flags.
And he was like, it's better for you.
Like, if you cook it, it's bad.
And I was like, what?
And I was like, eating.
Let him do what he needs to do, I guess.
Yeah, everyone has.
He only eats raw meat and milk.
That's his diet.
And then at least y'all avoid the parasite.
One slice or two?
One.
I'll take two.
Can I get one, please?
One.
Two.
Okay, Tiffany.
One, one, two.
One.
One, two.
Just one.
Could I get some more water too, please?
I don't know.
I did figure that out.
What do y'all usually, like, who do you usually date?
Like, like, looks?
No, I mean, like, career-wise.
Bro, I don't always know.
I know.
I'm like, I don't know.
No, but in Miami, it's dating.
No one has jobs.
Really?
Like, they have jobs.
But they're like all like side gate.
You know, it's like the day training water too by chance.
Like around one.
TikTok, ads, running, like, all that kind of stuff is all in Miami.
Like, I swear no one has normal jobs.
That's no, for real.
Same way.
LA, like, no one would.
But I do prefer guys with the LA area.
I feel like more people work than Miami, but it's like, it's like half and half.
Yeah.
Because people in like the Midwest, like, I'm, I don't, what do you consider the Midwest?
No, girl in the South.
South.
Sorry, I'm really bad.
I'm really scared for like the geography.
But like, you guys actually like work, right?
Like, I feel like everyone works.
Workers.
I work in a whale hair over there.
Yeah.
I'm from Detroit and like I grew up working since I was 15.
What did you do?
I was just in the restaurant.
Same?
Like serving and stuff.
So would y'all date?
Serving at 15?
Well, my dad, like, he's always been in the restaurant.
Oh, so he got you in.
Yeah.
I don't think that was legal, but that's good.
That's good for you.
Yeah, I mean, I worked at like a tropical smoothie.
That was my first job when I was 15, like behind the counter.
Yeah.
I was always working in a restaurant?
Yeah, I don't anymore.
Thank you.
Since I moved out here, thank you so much.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
I do miss it sometimes.
Like, it has been nice to talk to people.
Because I started working at like 16, 17 as well.
Yeah.
Would you guys date a guy that worked a blue-collar job?
I've never dated one collar.
What is a blue-collar job?
Like, manual labor?
No.
Why?
Because I just feel like they're probably gone a lot, right?
Is there one without any pepperoni on it by any chance?
I mean, if not, it's so funny.
I like the people who work.
Like, I know.
He's like, bro, you don't eat meat?
Of course.
He's probably tired when he comes home, right?
I mean, I'm sure he is.
That's why I don't want blue collar to be anything with construction to like, why?
Why is it bad for him to come home tired if you're there to take care of him?
I've met are not happy with their lives.
They wish they weren't happy.
Maybe because they don't have a good girl in their life.
And I just prefer guys who are happy in their own life and they're crazy.
So the guy staying at home while their girl goes to work is happy.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I was saying he has to be happy in his own individual life.
But you don't think blue collars.
Oh, blue collar.
Maybe because they're bussing their ass all day and not making enough money.
Oh, yeah, we should be able to do that.
They're not all being enough.
They're getting underpaid and mistreated.
So that's my point.
Like, I don't want that because it does impact somebody's feelings in life and they bring that to their home.
It's not about the actual job.
If I met somebody who was blue-collar and I felt like they were really happy doing that, it'd be different.
But I just haven't met any yet.
So, you know, until I do, then the answer is going to be no.
Somebody should probably talk.
All right.
Yeah, I feel like I should probably date a blue-collar man and switch it up a bit.
I usually show the room with a drug dealer or a rapper.
Oh my god, girl, why?
I mean, I don't seek it out.
It kind of just finds me.
It just comes to me, unfortunately.
Ooh.
Damn.
Yeah, I should probably find a man that's like good.
I mean, they're not bad people.
Well, their choice of decisions are.
Yeah.
Sometimes their decision making is pretty bad.
I mean, the musicians aren't bad, but like, you know, maybe I should switch it up a bit.
Branch out a bit, you know.
So, what would you like him to be doing?
I don't know.
Like, maybe a blue-collar man would be cool.
Earl, date, like, the trades: a plumber, an electrician.
Yeah, they make good money.
It's a really secure career to go into now because not a lot of men are learning how to work with their hands.
If anything ever breaks at the house, they'll fix it for you.
Yes.
And wait, no, you're so right.
It's hot.
Yeah.
I think I'm hot.
What kind of guys do you usually date?
I mean, I'm not.
I'm so unhappy as a person.
I'm a mountain girl and I'm a little bit more.
I mean, I was like, I just haven't met a guy that you're not doing.
Yeah, I mean, my first friend was working a little bit on the like we work on ski resort only on ski resorts.
So, like, any job in the ski resort, I was a server, a long time.
Serving?
Yeah, and then I worked on the ski resort as a lifting.
And then my ex-husband was a groomer.
So he was driving jets.
Like, my first job was an elementary school teacher.
Really?
I graduated early at 16.
Let me see if it was a good thing.
Oh, I loved it.
Yeah.
That's why I love kids so much.
I literally.
That's okay.
She'll probably bring another one.
I'm sorry.
I don't need so.
I keep brooding my head.
It's fine.
I might pick off the pepperoni.
Yeah, pigs in like a huge shot.
Your first job was an elementary school teacher.
Yes.
A virtual English as a second language.
Ah.
That was a lot of fun.
Huh?
How old are you?
26.
Oh, dang.
Oh, I did a lot of shit.
I've lived like 7 million lives in one.
But I was like, you said you didn't go to college.
So it couldn't be like a.
No, it was a full-time job.
I'm not saying it wasn't a full-time job.
No, it was accredited.
It was a massive facility.
International degree?
At the time, they didn't care that much.
Wait, what?
That doesn't matter.
Maybe because of my extracurriculars and my grades, but it doesn't make sense.
I'm just telling you what it is.
Like, that's what I did.
It was a lot of fun.
And most of my clients were actually Asian, which I guess doesn't really surprise me because out there they have a lot of schools and facilities to teach the children English.
HPSL.
Yeah.
So, yeah, so that's pretty much what I would do.
And I don't know.
I just remember it being so fun.
Sometimes it got tiring, though, because I'd have to say like Apple over and over again.
Because it wasn't.
It's got competitive.
Thank you.
Mm-hmm.
It's okay.
You're welcome, ladies.
Oh, my God.
Wait, can I water this video?
Thank you so much.
What are you saying?
So we need you, Brian.
I know.
I'm like, we're not the hosts.
Thank you so much.
So, what grade did you teach?
It was young, elementary.
I did teach some adults, though, too, every now and then.
But they just put me a lot with the children because I love kids.
I still do a lot of work with children, even without like a normal person job.
I used to run a daycare.
Oh, yeah.
I did a lot of work at your house.
I had to move.
I had a daycare for one.
Yeah.
I bought a store.
I bought a lot of stuff.
That's all daycare.
I'm like, I love you.
I love kids so much.
That's so cute.
Yeah, I'm like, but I wanted to drive back.
Huh?
Bro, I realize you guys are on a fucking podcast.
No one gives a fuck about this fight.
Yeah, but we're not.
We're not hosts.
We don't do this.
This is like what brought us here.
You're on camera.
Like, what?
Yeah, you talk about daycare.
No one gives a fuck.
Yeah, but I don't care what they care about.
I don't know what they're doing.
You're on a fucking podcast.
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Damn.
Yeah, but it's not my podcast.
Like, I step away for fucking five, ten minutes, and it's your podcast.
Right, so there's.
If you're not here asking the question, however, don't expect a lot of non-podcast having people to know what to do on a podcast.
Well, it's about having a conversation.
We are having one.
One that would be really.
To me, it's entertaining.
Can I ask you a question?
If you're out with a group of 10 of your friends and one of those girls, she's really, she's your best friend, and you're just talking to her and you're talking about, oh, do you know Billy Bob?
And you're talking about, and none of these other girls there know who Billy Bob is.
They don't know who Edward is.
They don't know.
Isn't that kind of rude to the other women?
Usually they fill in the context, so no, we always.
I personally think if I'm in a group of people and I'm not like, this is obviously, I'm not talking about the podcast now, but if I'm hanging out with a group of people, I'm not going to just talk.
Say there's three of us, we all know each other, and there's one outlier.
I'm not going to be like talking about shit he doesn't know.
Okay.
I don't know if that makes sense, but I mean, it does.
I just don't think it pertains to this situation.
I don't know who they are.
I can't see anything.
I don't know what they're talking about.
I was told that she was a teacher and never had a degree, and I don't believe that.
Which is fine.
You don't have to.
I don't really care.
I know, and that's okay.
I don't really mind.
I mean, I don't need somebody else to validate my life's experience.
If I did, I'd probably be way more insecure.
Hold on.
I'm sorry for some of these missed TTS.
Hold on.
Totally not Fat Gamer donated $200.
Care five.
Where did these models meet their unattractive partners for summer?
In school.
Typically in school.
A lot of them are still in school.
Sorry for the delay on that.
Mr. Fuko, I see your super chats.
I was away from the computer.
It's coming up.
It's below the threshold, though, so I see your message, though.
I'll tell Andrew.
I'll tell Andrew.
Thank you, Totally Not Fat Gamer.
I will appreciate the TTS.
All right.
Yeah, dude.
You should.
You can send me a DM, I guess.
I will bring it to Andrew's attention.
All right.
Let's see.
Let's get trying to blast through the notes.
How tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
I'm 5'9, and I said 5'10.
What about you?
I'm 5'2.
I would say 5'10.
That's not what you put here.
I can't help.
You wrote, you're 5'2, and you wrote 6 feet.
It depends on the guy.
Okay, but the question is: what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
So if it depends on the guy, I mean, if they're really, really, really hot, I don't care.
I do not.
Okay.
What about you, Brooke?
Lynn?
Is it Brooke or Brooklyn?
Brooklyn.
Did you go by Brooke?
No.
Okay, Brooklyn.
5'7 or 5'9.
5'7.
I think I said 5'8.
Yeah, well, yeah.
Oh, I'm 5'9, but I think the shortest I've ever dated was like 5'6 or 5'7.
But I don't really know.
You wrote, I don't know what's my minimum.
Yeah.
Bro, literally, I guess 5'6 and 5'7.
We have a series of five questions at the bottom here.
Her answers are as follows: I don't know.
I don't know.
Depends on mood.
Not sure.
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah, that's just the truth.
You know, I think in order to have a good emotional conversation, you need to actually be able to articulate yourself to this.
To me, this is very superficial.
I don't know, bro.
It's the vibe.
You don't know what you're doing.
You're a little fucking model.
Your profession is the epitome of superficiality.
Yes, but my conversations are not that.
But you just proved literally what I was saying earlier.
How did I prove literally what you were saying?
Because I was saying I get stigmatized based off of that.
But no, I mean, like, in my actual dates, like, I don't even talk about any of these type of things.
Not even with my friends.
So, I mean, this is the first time.
Okay, what is superficial about this conversation?
I mean, you're asking about dating preferences that to me are very superficial.
Nothing has to do with an actual person's character.
What would it be feelings or nuances?
It's very like, you know.
Cringe.
Yeah, so let me ask you a question.
A woman who wants to be a stay-at-home wife and she's traditional and she wants to have three kids, can, financially speaking, wouldn't it be a good idea to date a guy who has the finances to you're still what?
I feel like I'm just young enough to build with someone.
How old are you?
26.
But I'd rather build with someone.
But if that's something that women should be, it's not superficial.
Women should be to some degree concerned about a man's ability to provide in a relationship.
I don't think that's superficial.
But you're not talking about foundation.
Abilities are different from actual numbers and heights and criterias and weights and all these things.
Like that's all surface level of a person.
I don't like dictate things off of just that.
If I met someone who doesn't earn my ideal price, but I really like him and I think he's an incredible person with a really great future that I can see myself in, I'm not going to discredit him simply because of his finances.
That's great.
It's not like a deal-breaker factor.
If we're talking about general principles here, as a man, as you become more successful, as you make more money, as you improve in your career, that tends to make you more attractive to women.
Yeah.
So, I mean, you can cope all you want about, you know, oh, it's all about the vibes, bro.
And look, again, I'm not saying women only look for money.
I'm not saying that.
But yeah, if you improve your money, more women find you attractive.
So, and okay.
All right.
What are the other superficial things you dislike?
I already talked about it.
Like weight, eye color, hair height.
Those things to me are surface level.
I wouldn't, none of those are deal breakers for me.
That's essentially what I'm saying.
Right.
So you think it's superficial for somebody to care about somebody's weight?
Yeah.
What if that's nuanced and deep?
Then no.
But you're just saying, like, generally speaking, I don't think so.
Well, let's say it's not even.
I'm willing to be lenient in certain ways.
So I think a lot of people are.
I mean, let's say it's not even about necessarily the aesthetics of it.
It's like, what does this potentially say about the person?
Well, that's my point.
If they're morbidly obese, you know, you have to have concern for your partner.
Hey, they might have health problems because they're morbidly obese.
They're 400 pounds.
Are they going to die at 40, at 50?
Are they going to have health problems?
Are they going to have, you know, kind of issues?
So I don't think it's superficial, but well, that's not how I look at it.
Lovely.
What about you?
I'm 5'4 and I said 5'5.
Okay, what about you?
5'8 and I said 6'5.
Okay, what about you?
I'm 5'7 and I said 5'6.
All right, so you won't date a guy who's 5'10?
Not anymore.
No.
No.
Just answer quickly.
No.
No, I understand.
Nice to know.
Obesity And Relationship Issues00:03:09
Yeah.
Okay, so even if you, you know, even if you meet a great guy.
I don't care.
I say 6 feet.
I said no.
What do you want me to answer?
All right.
That's fine.
People can have their preferences.
Exactly.
Let's see here.
Does anyone pick the bear?
Would you rather cross paths with a random man or okay?
Veronica, why do you pick bear?
I mean, it was Loki kind of a joke.
All right.
Thank you for wasting our time.
I do feel afraid, Loki, when it's just me and a man walking down the street.
To the point you pick a bear, though.
To the point that you pick a bear over a man, encountering a bear?
No, it was just a joke.
I just wanted.
I don't know.
I thought it was funny, I guess.
So, what is your actual position?
Because if it's bear, I'll engage you in the conversation.
If it's man, I think I'm going to change my answer to no, I would not pick the bear.
Okay.
All right.
Let's get into disagreements.
I don't know if anybody wrote any disagreements, but I know some of you had some disagreements in your notes.
I can look them up or somebody can just give me the prompt.
Anybody?
All right.
I will do the legwork here.
Okay.
Let's go to.
Hold on.
No.
Maria, you said that you love the show and you also hate it.
The show is cringe.
Not you, Brian.
Well, sometimes you.
But mainly the girls or whatever they are.
That's fair.
Any elaboration there?
Um, I mean, it's pretty much what it is.
Uh, yeah, a lot of the girls that come on here have like totally absurd point of views, and uh, I don't agree with them at all.
Um, I don't know.
Okay, uh, you said you did van life for three years, yes.
Uh, were you dating your boyfriend for those three years?
Yeah, okay, so you guys were doing van life together or separate, no, together, and we were together for like I don't know, a while before that too, and then like had this goal and like built out the van.
Actually, he built out the van for me or for us, but yeah, then we like traveled for like three years and okay.
Uh, you in your notes, you further write that you're you also you mentioned your relationship got rough, and this is where you got into the specifics of the attempted cheating.
I guess you said you drove halfway across the country to meet some dude, then turned around when you were three hours away because you saw the billboard that says don't commit adultery.
Damn, I know that's crazy.
I didn't see him halfway a good girl.
Had you not seen the billboard, do you think you would have gone through with it?
Ooh, maybe I was like, God's talking to me.
I was just gonna ask her if she was religious.
Stronger Women Than Men00:14:44
Yeah, come from this out.
Have you ever cheated on them properly, though?
No, okay, never.
You said marriage is a bad deal for everyone.
Why is that?
Well, just because, like, doing it by the law, it's like, I don't know, God doesn't say you have to, like, be married by the government.
It's like, actually, in the Bible, it says for a man to like take him a wife, not like go get married and sign some papers.
And I don't know.
I guess that's it.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't want to get married.
So.
I mean, it's not like a big deal to me.
Like, okay, like me and Luke, like, if we never got married, I'm not like heartbroken or I don't like need to be married because it's like, we kind of like already are, you know?
Sure.
You wrote that dating is not always easier for men.
If you're a cute girl, you will literally have so many guys try to get with you, tell you anything and lies.
How is a baddie supposed to know who's a real one these days?
Yeah, like dudes will literally say anything to girls.
And okay, so like I only knew that because I was like messing around, you know.
But yeah, I feel like guys are full of shit a lot and will say anything to try to get in your pants or take you out on a date.
I'm curious for the women at the table here.
So she says that would you guys trade roles with men?
So still be women.
They still be men.
But some of the role, though, the rules are changed.
No.
So like you have to pay for the date and you have to be the pursuer and you have to do all the things that men do.
You're still a woman.
He's still the man.
Would you guys you and when I say trade roles, I mean everyone's kind of swaps.
So like everyone swaps, not just like who you're doing.
For how long?
Forever.
No, that's all.
Do you trade roles?
Do you trade roles?
Nope.
Trade rules?
No.
Trade rules.
I trade.
I bet you would.
I take the trade.
These guys got the harder job.
I take the trade.
Oh, guys would definitely, I think, chat.
What do you think?
Do you take the trade?
So again, you're still a man.
She's still a woman.
But the roles are reversed.
So the women are going to be hitting on you.
And sometimes they're going to be creepy as fuck and they're going to be sketchy or whatever.
But all the women just want to give you pussy.
They just want to give you pussy.
And some of them are not going to date you, though.
They're just going to use you for your dick.
I take the trade.
I take that trade.
Do you take that trade?
I take the trade.
I think the good topic.
Guys take the trade.
Okay, let's see here.
You said past does matter.
Oh, yeah.
You know what?
We'll come back to some of your other notes.
Remind me to finish them up.
Where do we go?
You know what?
Let me do some questionnaire stuff, then we'll do the notes.
Let's see where we start.
You write, Chris Love.
You write, you agree with the following statement.
Women are just as physically strong as men.
Yeah, I agree.
Why is that?
Because I've seen women that are stronger than men.
There's firefighter women, there's like...
Into the mic.
There's firefight women, there's people in the army.
Okay.
And then Veronica, you also agree women are just as physically strong as men.
Why is that?
It really just depends if a woman is training or not.
Like, there could be a stick, scrawny man and a huge buff woman.
So it's like, you know, one of them is stronger than the other.
So it's not just like all man and woman.
You know what I mean?
One woman could be stronger than that.
Okay, but do humans have ten fingers?
Yes.
Are some humans born with 11 fingers?
Yes.
Is it incorrect to say that humans are born with ten fingers?
No.
Okay, so I acknowledge that there are some women who are stronger than some men.
The question is a general one, though.
Oh, in general?
Yeah, no.
Yes, in general.
Oh, oh, sorry.
Yeah, go ahead.
In general, I feel like, yeah, physically.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You don't know?
Yeah, it depends.
What do you mean?
It depends.
Bodybuilder world, all the women could be stronger.
Majority.
Yeah.
Well, general society.
Average.
No comment.
Median.
No, you don't have a comment?
Yeah.
But you did indicate that women are just as physically strong as men.
How about this?
I'll specify the question.
On average, are women just as physically strong as men?
On average?
Yeah.
The median, are women just as physically strong as men?
I don't know if he's going to be strong.
Well, you're the only one who circled this.
In general, are men physically stronger than women?
It just depends.
How could it depend?
Have you seen, like, the news in weightlifting?
There's literally women who are so strong.
Yes, there's women who are probably stronger than me.
There are strong women.
But so let me ask it like this.
The strongest person who exists is a man or a woman?
Let me just say the standard bullshit.
Men.
What do you mean, the standard bullshit?
Men.
Are you backing down from your position?
Are you conceding on your position?
No, I'm just saying men so you can move on.
Well, I'm here to engage you in a conversation.
If you genuinely believe that women are just as physically strong as men, I'm happy to have the convo.
Like I said before, I said yes and no.
So that's just like my comment.
You want me to what?
That's just my comment is yes and no.
Okay, but I'm asking you a question.
But can you answer this?
The strongest person on earth, is it a man or a woman?
I don't know.
You don't know?
That's why I said yes or no.
Do when it comes to, when it comes to like sporting events, Olympics, do men lift more weights?
Can they lift more weight?
There are girls that can lift more weights than men in the Olympics.
Not in the Olympics.
Then what are those girls doing that?
The weightlift champion.
There are strong women in the Olympics, but there are not stronger women in the Olympics.
Okay, let's do racing.
How about running?
Are men faster than women?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't understand if you're just being passive-aggressive.
You seem to want to answer one way, so I'm a bit confused.
I don't know why you're in your feelings about this.
I'm not.
My answer was yes or no.
I think she just doesn't want to debate it.
Well, what?
I mean, truthfully, there's nothing to debate.
Exactly.
So hold on.
That's what she said.
But men are physically stronger than women, but you're disputing this.
I'm saying some women are stronger than men.
Not all women are stronger than men.
I know.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Okay.
So, how about this?
Collective strength.
Are all men together, collectively, stronger than all women collectively?
Yes.
I don't get the attitude.
Like, are you saying yes just to move the conversation along and you believe the other thing?
You said all men together.
Yes, I believe they're stronger than women.
Okay, because before you were like, I gave you a yes just to move the conversation on.
So what do you truly believe?
I don't know.
That's what I believe.
Okay, well, I can tell you this, and you can tell me if you agree or don't.
So men are stronger than women.
Men are faster than women.
Men run faster than women.
Men can lift more weights than women.
Men can, if you look at the top, the elite athletes, right?
So yes, there are some women who can lift more than some men.
This is true.
However, in general, men, on average, have more strength and they're faster.
Do you agree or disagree?
I don't know why you're, like, am I just crazy here?
Did she want to disagree, but now she, I think you genuinely think women are stronger than men.
I said before, my answer was yes or no, so I really didn't agree or disagree.
Uh.
Okay.
You said all men put together?
Yeah, men would be stronger.
Yeah, but on average.
How about this?
On average, are men taller than women?
Yes.
On average, do men have more muscle than women?
Yes.
What does muscle translate to?
Generally?
Do you have more strength?
Strength or steroids.
Okay, but you'd agree that, you know, typically as you have a bit more muscle, you have more strength.
If men have more muscle, then wouldn't they be stronger than women?
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
So there are some women who are taller than some men, but on average, men are taller than women.
On average.
Okay.
I don't know why.
I don't know.
I feel like girls have a problem with the concept of men being stronger than women.
Okay.
I mean, it's true.
It's not strong.
No, I don't care.
I'm just over the question.
Huh?
I don't agree, but I'm just like over the...
I feel like she already made her answer.
You don't agree with what?
No, I'm saying I agree.
Well, actually, no, I disagree that men have, or women have a hard time accepting it.
I just think it's a small group of women who have a hard time accepting it.
Okay, so you disagree with what she's saying.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't think it's a majority.
I don't think it's a lot of women, but some women do.
I don't know.
It's physical strength.
It's just biology.
Like, it's facts.
It's just biology.
I think in terms they hear it as like just a stronger, better person.
And that's not the question.
Yeah.
Well, that's personal insecurity.
Because they probably just don't want to admit that somebody else is stronger.
Like gender, I think gender insecurity.
Men and women have equal inherent value.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Men and women have different unequal attributes.
So we have different anatomy.
We have different heights.
We have different strength.
Our bones are different.
And so it's not like when we say men are stronger than women, we're talking about physical.
The question, the statement encompasses physical strength.
And yes, men are physically stronger than women.
This is just, like Julia said, it's just biological reality.
So.
All right.
Chris, you said women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
Why is that?
You see the type of jobs women get excluded from men's job that they can't do it.
What would that have to do with rights, though?
Well, so like a right would be something like the right to own a firearm.
Do men have a right to own a firearm and do women not have a right to own a firearm?
They both do.
Okay, so but is there a job that a woman is legally not allowed to have?
Women can have any job they want.
I'm just saying sometimes they get discriminated against.
Men also get discriminated against, but that wouldn't be evidence of an inequality of rights.
Yeah, like I said, I didn't know about that.
Okay.
Further, Lindsay, you also agree women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
Why is that?
Well, I mean, I didn't really look.
I'm just so not political, so I don't ever think of rights.
You're talking about politics.
You just gave a political example.
Well, it's not like I wasn't thinking about it as politics.
So yes, if it's politics, then you can't.
I don't think it's easy.
So, okay, women do not have equal rights.
Why is that?
As I said, if it's politics, then I have a very different opinion.
I wasn't looking at it as politics.
So how were you?
Do you want to just answer the question, though?
Well, I've told you if it's political, then, like, no, honestly, I don't even remember what the question is at this point.
Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
Well, if you're talking about political rights, then I'm pretty sure that they do.
I don't know enough.
I don't know.
So what are the rights that women do not have?
I don't know.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't look at it as political.
Okay, you don't know the rights that women do not have.
Do you still assert that women do not have equal rights, even if you don't know?
I think that they do have equal rights.
Until I know which ones we don't have, I'd rather say we do have equal rights.
But you did circle.
Yes, because I wasn't looking at it as political.
All right, Veronica, you also circled it.
I was more focused on discriminatory.
Equal rights to men in the USA.
Why is that?
I changed my mind.
Are you just you literally?
What do you mean you changed your mind?
Well, after she spoke, I agree.
I changed my mind.
Because I didn't look at it as political.
I thought you meant like discriminatory or like work.
I just don't think politics.
Equal rights.
Equal rights.
I just don't believe it.
This is super basic.
Are you changing your mind because you don't want to answer?
No, I like that.
I like that if people get new information.
I don't think they're in their perspective.
They're like, oh, I understand the question now.
No, I just don't believe her.
I think she just doesn't want to engage.
You don't have to believe me.
It's okay, but she did really change my mind for sure.
Okay, so women don't.
So women have equal rights to men in the USA.
Will you affirmatively state that?
Yes.
Affirmative.
Me or her.
I told you no already.
Until I have enough information to know the actual accuracy, I don't know the right answer to that.
I don't know politics.
Until I knew the actual facts, I don't have an answer.
Abortion Rights Debate00:11:44
No.
Okay, absent you being able to point to a way in which women do not have equal rights, are you willing to assume that they do?
Yes, until I know that otherwise, I'd rather just say yes.
Okay, holy fuck, bro.
Am I supposed to say no?
I don't understand.
Like, do you want me to say no?
How do you think women don't have equal rights?
I do think they do if it's political.
I wasn't looking at this as political.
Wait, you think they do have equal political rights?
I don't know enough, so I'm just saying yes.
I don't know.
What non-political right do you think men have that women don't?
I was just saying, and when it comes to not politics, I know they make a large percentage less for the same exact positions.
So that's my point.
I didn't look at it as right.
I don't look at things politically.
So political language is like so outside of my radar.
It's just not the first thing I think of.
I like genuinely, that was not what I was thinking.
I didn't think, oh, political.
I just don't have a mind like that.
So I thought it was more like discriminatory workplace life kind of things, not politics.
I just don't talk about politics or have like a politics in my, you know, it's just not in my world often.
So like I just don't think that way naturally.
Okay.
That's interesting, I suppose.
I told you I don't even own a TV.
I don't have any streaming accounts.
Like I'm very like out of touch.
I would say that.
Veronica, you agree women are oppressed in the USA.
Why is that?
I don't really remember circling that.
Well, I just told you you did.
Okay.
Tiffany, could you get me my phone, please?
Will you explain what oppression means?
I was kind of.
I'll Google it.
I'll just give you a Google definition.
I was kind of just confused by that statement.
Thank you.
Oppression, prolonged, cruel or unjust treatment, the state of being subject to unjust treatment or control.
I don't really know what that means, I guess.
I was just confused by the question that's what are you a feminist?
Yeah.
Okay, so what does that mean to be a feminist?
I support women no matter what they do.
So if a woman falsely accuses a man of a sex crime, you would support her no matter what?
Well, obviously not.
You just said you would support her.
Amber Heard versus Johnny Depp.
Do you support Amber Heard?
No.
I don't know what that situation is.
You're not familiar with pretty much the most famous court case we've had in the past decade.
I just know that there was abuse involved.
I don't really keep up with that.
Not everybody knows everything.
I don't.
I stay off social media.
Okay, so I thought this was a date.
Yeah, me too.
Feminism.
I don't know anything about political and all this other stuff.
Feminism is vastly, massively a component of dating because if you're a more feminist woman, that's going to have an influence on how you date, how you view men, how you assess men.
But in any case, you said you're feminist and that's standing by women no matter what.
Yes, like 95% of the time, obviously, if they're an abuser, no.
But like, in my opinion, 100%, most of the time, I'm always going to like stand by the woman just because I am a woman, and that's my opinion and my decision.
Okay, so you stand by women.
So what does that mean in practice?
Like, for example, if she wants to be a stripper, I 100% support that.
I'm like a girl's girl, I guess.
Okay.
Can I ask you, do you have a brother?
If he was accused of a sex crime, would you believe the woman?
I would not believe her, honestly.
Like, my little brother, I just know him very well.
But I thought you stand by women.
I do.
I would definitely listen to her side, too.
Okay.
I would have to hear like what actually.
But you immediately, I didn't say whether it was false or true, but you immediately, when it comes to familial bonds, your feminism kind of went out the window there.
Yeah, it's just like family, I guess.
Okay.
Do you think women are oppressed in the United States?
No.
You're, okay, so why are you a feminist?
Because that's just what I choose to be.
That doesn't answer the question.
Why am I a feminist?
Because I love women.
You can love women and not be a feminist.
Okay, well, I've always considered myself a feminist and will.
So what is feminism fighting for?
Just like women's rights, abortion, you know, things like that.
Okay, now we're getting somewhere.
So if it's fighting for women's rights, what right does a woman have, excuse me, what right do men have that women don't?
Men have that women don't?
Yeah, because you said it's fighting for women's rights.
What is the right that feminists are fighting for to murder their children?
Is that it?
Is that all you have?
No, it's not about murdering children at all.
That's not the way that I view it.
Oh, okay.
And that's your guys' opinion, and that's okay.
I know.
I'm like, just let people feminists.
But there is a right to women.
Just let women murder children.
There is a right to be a feminist.
Okay, can I ask you a question?
That's what it is.
I'm not going to try to change it.
I don't like it.
Just let people answer how they want.
Yeah, so can I ask you a question?
Can a woman, should a woman be allowed to get an abortion one day before she would otherwise give birth?
Fuck no.
No.
Why not?
I don't know.
It's just at that point, I don't know.
It's her baby at that point, bro.
It's her bodily autonomy.
Why can't she abort the baby?
Or are you fine with it?
Maybe you're not.
No, I just don't feel like talking about it, honestly.
There has to be a reason for it, like a qualified reason.
And I guess in the states where abortion has been made illegal, again, I would say we're entering an era of oppression of women.
I don't.
I don't support terminating a baby at the end of pregnancy.
I think they're, again, under certain restrictions with the law, with tons of resources available to the women, right?
Like, come in, get tested.
Like, if this is something that is threatening your life or, you know, product of rape or whatever, like, this is time period, whatever.
I just, I think it's not about, I don't know, like terminating life.
It really is about being able to make decisions about your own body and healthcare.
Well, what you did there is you smuggled in sometimes some genuine exceptions to that would allow women to get an abortion.
Let me do this.
If I were to grant that in the instances of the life of the mother, rape and incest, and I say abortion's fine in those circumstances, are you prepared to say abortion is wrong in all other circumstances?
I mean, I personally, in my opinion, I think that you should be able to decide no matter what.
Like, for example, if I were to get pregnant right now, I would probably pass away because my, I'm just like too small.
My ovaries are complicated and I'm not sure.
Think you would die because you're small.
That's what I was told.
Who told you that?
The doctor.
How tall are you?
I'm 5'4.
You're the average woman's height.
5'4 is the average woman's height.
Are you saying you're underweight?
Yes, I'm super underweight.
So if I were to have a kid, I would probably die as well as the kids.
So I would probably put myself first in that situation.
I'm not familiar about underweight pregnancies.
I just talk about this.
I was told personally.
Well, I mean, there would be solutions to that.
You could eat more food, I suppose.
No, I can't gain weight.
I can't gain weight.
Calories in, calories out.
That's ridiculous.
No, it's always been like this for me.
It's calories in, calories out.
No, some people can't.
Yeah, like shit.
I mean, that was in his memorialism, too.
It's like, yeah, even if you have a fast metabolism, like if you're like, if you set out to gain weight, you can't.
I have.
You can't.
If you're fucking pounding certain, like they can make certain shakes that are super high.
I do.
I drink those every day, you guys.
I've been trying for a while.
Right, but that's an appetite issue.
No, I don't know.
No, it's genetics.
Yeah, it is genetics.
Like, it's like, there's a couple people in my family like that.
So I mean, we can use these outlier situations or whatever.
My question to you, Julia, was granting that abortion is fine in those circumstances, are you against abortion for she got knocked up during a one-night stand and she doesn't want the kid or she's dating her boyfriend, they had consensual sex, she got pregnant, and she's just not in a good financial place.
Man, that's a hard one.
I'm like, I'm weighing morality against free will.
But then that brings me to like murdering someone that's not legal.
But I don't know.
I mean, shooting someone, like murdering like an adult.
Okay.
I just want to say, I think it comes down to like your body being able to make the choice.
Oh, your body being able to make your own choices.
It's like, like, there's something that feels inherently wrong about telling someone what they can do about their body, but I get what you're like.
Well, there's another body in there.
I know, I know.
I know.
But then if you want to get even more meta, it's like, do you think it is the right thing to do to let a child be born into that sort of situation?
Do you think that's morally right?
So children who are currently born, who currently live in poverty, should we murder them?
No.
No, but it's.
But their life is bad because they're in poverty.
We should just kill them, right?
No.
Why not?
But their life is bad.
Because they're living and sentient right now.
Oh, okay.
So then it's not just their life might be bad, therefore we should abort them.
It's something else.
It's like, I mean, I think to a certain point within when it's a fetus.
A baby?
Yeah, it's again.
Fetus means baby.
No, the very classic argument, like, is this a living being while it's still in your, like, would is it murder, right?
When does the heartbeat sell it?
Life begins at 15 weeks.
When does it get with a heartbeat again?
I'm not sure.
It's a cut.
What is it?
Eight weeks, I think.
I think that there should be like a cutoff time, like after eight weeks.
I think if you're a grown adult and making the decision to have sex and you get pregnant, then you should not go kill that kid.
No, like if the baby's going to kill you by being pregnant, or it's even hard for me to say like abortion's okay if you were raped.
I'd almost say like have the kid and give it to adoption.
Do you really want to go through nine months and then I would rather do that than kill a woman?
Career Clout In Dating00:15:11
I don't know.
Well, we're not going to linger on the abortion condo, but you were saying you're feminist abortion rights or whatever.
Of course, men don't have any reproductive rights.
If the woman wants to keep the kid, the man has no say.
The woman wants to get rid of the kid, the man has no say.
So men have no reproductive rights.
I believe actually to achieve equality, you either have to give men a way out or you would have to completely roll back any abortion rights whatsoever for there to be equality between men and women.
So give men a way out in what way?
So the way out is obviously a man, I don't think a man should be able to force a woman to get an abortion, but the way out would be the man can completely revoke his any parental duty or responsibility.
So even if the woman wanted child support from him, he could be like, no, I'm getting a paper abortion.
I don't have to pay you shit.
That's the way men get their out.
That would be fair.
That would be a form.
That would be a form of equity.
So, but most women aren't too stoked on that either.
The question for you, though, Veronica is: feminism, do you believe there's a patriarchy?
No, I don't think so.
There's not, you're a feminist, but there's not a patriarchy.
Okay.
I don't know.
I guess I just need to do more research.
I wasn't expecting to talk about this.
Yeah.
I mean, it's we talk about all these topics, but I've never watched this show, so you what?
I literally have never seen anything.
You reached out to us to be on that.
Yes, because I saw it like on an ad thing, but I didn't watch anything.
All right, that's fine.
That's fine.
That's fine.
All right.
So, okay.
Let me see if there's anything else from the questionnaire here.
A woman's career money status makes her more attractive to men.
Lexi, you agree with that?
Why is that?
I think that that's just an addition, but I don't know like a specific career I'm looking for, but I think it's good if a man's passionate about something.
No, it's a woman's career money status makes her more attractive to men.
Sorry, I misunderstood.
Brooklyn, you also circled that.
Why is that?
I know that men like mainly want looks.
Mainly.
Most guys.
Some guys care about status.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like clout and stuff.
I feel like, especially in our generation.
They care about a woman's clout, yeah.
Clout?
They'll clout chase.
The men.
A lot of guys are HLBs.
Yeah.
So, okay, like, let me frame it like this.
Do you think that let's say there's a girl who's five out of ten, but she's got huge clout, insane clout, or a girl who's eight out of ten in looks and she's got 300 followers on Instagram and it's private.
Who do the guys pick?
But what kind of guy?
Because like the guys I'm from back home would probably clout chase.
Where's back home?
Like Ventura.
You think guys who live in Ventura would rather date a 510 girl with clout than an 810 girl with 300 followers?
It depends on what they're looking for.
So three points.
I mean, some guys will like use women too.
Yeah, but that's that's uh that's not genuine attraction.
Yeah.
That's like just their hobos.
Yeah, they're just clout chasing.
They just want to for yeah, that's not attraction though.
Did it say attraction on there?
Yeah, a woman's career money status makes her more attractive to men, to which you agree, you agree.
Attractive.
So, yeah, there's guys who are like bums and they want to mooch off their clout girlfriend.
Yeah.
But he'd probably cheat on her, the clouded up five out of ten with the eight ten.
But would you like, like, you would you think that a woman with like a career could make her more attractive?
No, not really.
Yeah, like she has nothing going for her.
Like, I don't know.
Except she's hard.
It's not, it's a neutral, it's rarely ever a positive.
It's either neutral or negative.
I'm just saying, like, it could.
I'm not saying that it's like negative or like neutral.
I mean, the thing is, is that men just, there's a couple reasons.
I mean, also, Letitia, you, before I give my answer, do you want to weigh in?
You agree a woman's career money status makes her more attractive to men?
Same with you, Julia.
Julia, Letitia?
Okay, maybe not a more attractive draw.
I think that it does make a better partner.
Letitia.
Yeah, I thought, like, I was saying that more in the way of she's driven, she's got something going on, she's got goals, she's got ambition.
So maybe not a career, but just at least like something going on for herself.
She's just not like waiting for someone to show up in her life.
She should have ambition to give me seven sons.
That should be the woman's ambition.
Well, you can have like, I'm not saying, yeah, don't be homeless.
Don't be homeless, but in terms of like, don't be some boss babe.
That's, I mean, you can be, I guess, but it doesn't make you more attractive.
Like, I understand that women, you have to pay rent, you have to eat food, you have expenses.
So, yes, you need to work.
I understand that.
But beyond that, it doesn't make you more attractive.
If you're a woman who's a doctor versus a woman, aside from like, if she's a doctor, she probably has higher IQ or whatever versus a woman who works at Chick-fil-A.
Beyond that, the career component does not make her more attractive.
But wouldn't she, like, as a successful man, smarter, don't you think?
Career alone, the title, the title, no, but like the things that if it's a doctor or and they're uh wealthy, like that, you can tell she is disciplined, you know, she's intelligent.
Yes, yeah, I mean, well, first off, doctor is a bit of a big outlier here.
I should have just said some like chick who has a corporate job, but yes, being a doctor would present some positive characteristics, but it also comes with some negatives.
Uh, fucking insanely busy.
Is she a doctor yet?
Like, is she in residency?
Oh, you want to wait five years to have kids?
Uh, I don't know.
Oh, you want to wait till you're 35 to have kids?
I don't know.
So, yeah, there are some positive things that you can draw from a woman who's a doctor.
I'm also going to think she's going to be super stressed out.
She's going to prioritize her career over our children.
And she's going to be busy.
She's going to be stressed out.
Alcoholism rates among doctors is higher than the general population.
So it has some positives and some negatives.
And of course, she's probably more intelligent than average.
Not always the case, but yeah, I'd be willing to grant that.
But it's like the additional factor here, though, of the career, women don't share their resources with men the same way men will share their resources with women.
Most of you here said men should pay on first dates, men should provide.
Like, y'all, even if we men, we were inclined to care about a woman's status or career or money, you wouldn't, we wouldn't reap any benefits.
Like, here you have a woman who makes five figures a month, I assume.
I think she said it earlier.
Uh-huh.
She wants a guy to pay for the first date.
So it's like, I don't, if I date a woman, even if she makes good money, I don't receive a benefit from that.
Now, if you're a woman and you date a wealthy guy, that's going to have real materialized way in terms of your lifestyle.
There's sugar mamas too, though.
Are there more sugar daddies or are there more sugar mamas?
I know there's more sugar daddies, but I'm just saying there's sugar mamas.
Any single woman here, if you wanted to, you could get a sugar daddy within a week.
Yeah.
90% of men cannot get a sugar mama, and they're like super rare.
You have one at the table.
You know, my two three last relationships were this way.
So, yeah, I am not going to go into another one, but like my three ex-relationship were like that.
I spent into the mic, please.
I spent a lot of money on them.
I even loaned some money to my ex-partner.
I was paying for his daughter because he had a daughter.
Like, yeah.
And I paid for all my immigration paperwork.
I paid for all of it.
I paid for our travels with my ex-husband.
So, yeah, it exists.
Like, you may not find one.
So, yes, there are women out there.
There are women who pay for things.
I understand that.
It's really rare.
It's super rare.
And I mean.
I mean, I know a lot of women who are in that setup right now.
So I don't know.
Okay, do you know?
Is it true, though, that there are more men who are sugar daddies than there are women that are sugar mamas?
Is that true?
Like, it's the ratio is probably 100 to 1.
For every 100 male sugar daddy, there's one sugar mama.
And women generally are not particularly satisfied having to hold down a guy financially in a relationship.
They're generally not cool with that.
And then it's like also, men should pay on first dates.
The majority of women here say men should pay on first dates.
I would say the majority of women, men should pay on first dates.
So it's like, yeah, we can talk about like there are some women who don't expect that, but the majority of women do.
I have a question for you.
Yeah.
Okay, same girl.
She's a so what are you eight, nine?
Just like amazing, attractive.
One has never been employed, has never had a job.
Sure.
The other one is a doctor.
They both want to give you seven sons.
The doctor woman, she's like, if we will get married, I will quit my job, be a stay-at-home mom, give you seven sons, which is more attractive.
Are they the same age?
Yes.
Everything equal.
Just the money, career, and status.
Then it would just be.
I'd be willing to grant that, yeah, the doctor would be the preferred choice.
But I don't think that disproves my point because my point here is about attraction.
So it's like, how many doctors who, okay, she spent hundreds of thousands on med school.
She spent 10 years in, I don't know how long, doctor, it's long.
10 years in college.
And then she's going to do one year.
She's going to work one year as a doctor and then quit?
No.
So some doctors as women might do that.
But would you agree that most women who are doctors are not going to do that?
I do agree.
Yes, they're not going to do that.
They're not going to do that.
And honestly, there is more and more men that are like, well, if my wife made more money.
Wait, wait, wait.
Can I?
Oh, sorry.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Make more money than they are even ready to quit their job and take care of the kids.
And honestly, like, as in-home daycare worker, like, I had a couple of families where men were like, oh, yeah, like, she makes the money.
We need the income.
And I, you know, they take care of the kids.
And I mean, maybe it depends also if you live in a city, in a mountain.
Like, I live and only have lived in mountain times.
Maybe we are different and we don't work the same way, but yeah.
Okay, wait, really quick question back to you, Julia.
She only worked as a doctor for one year?
I don't know, maybe it's seven years.
Who knows?
So, so, I mean, now I'm factoring something else in.
I'm assuming she has student loans.
Probably.
That outweigh the, I don't know how much med school, maybe somebody in the chat can write how much a typical doctor in the U.S. has in medical debt by the time they finish up, they graduate from med school or their residency or whatever.
I would assume her, I mean, you could even say, well, actually, the debt's equal.
I mean, then yes, I picked the doctor.
Her parents paid for it or something.
But like, money.
Like, so she's high on all the things.
Career, high school.
Okay, so no debt for either of them.
Great money.
Yeah, sure.
I'll pick the doctor, but realistically speaking, realistically speaking, I don't think she's quitting her job.
I don't think she's quitting her job.
No, she's not.
A majority of my family are surgeons.
They would never put their job first.
In this very narrow hypothetical you've given me, it's, I wouldn't say she's more attractive, but it's a more optimal choice.
Like it's, it's more optimal, I guess.
You would select her over the other woman.
I would select her over the other woman, but in terms of attraction, I wouldn't be like, like, I think when women look at a male who's a doctor, they will feel like a degree of attraction there to that.
Desire.
Yeah, like that's an appealing, like that's a, that, that is, you don't think so?
I do think, I do think there are certain jobs that based on the job, the women will have like more of a, I'm not saying it's necessarily make or break.
There could be like really ugly, terrible personality doctors.
But what I'm saying here generally, I do think a man, if he has a certain career, that can be like a bit of a draw for a woman.
But I don't think it draws men in that same way or to the same degree.
So again, I don't think it's about the title.
I think it's what it implies that this woman is hardworking.
She's dedicated.
She doesn't quit when it gets hard.
And then if you can convert that into a wife, right?
That's exactly what a trad man would be looking for.
Yeah, I suppose in your hypothetical, I would pick the doctor under those circumstances.
But yeah, okay, let's see.
Moving on here, blasting through this.
There's a few more here.
We have, let's see.
Lindsay, a woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
Why is that?
I mean, after all the conversations we have, I have no idea.
I don't know, I guess.
Your perception of weight is much different than mine.
So, I mean, I don't think of obese, for example.
You don't think of fat as obese, no.
Well, somebody can be fat and not quite obese or morbidly obese.
It's chubby, who's overweight, heavy.
Right.
So let's say a woman who's 200 pounds.
Is it wrong?
I'll just change the question.
And let's say she's 5'4.
So that's to be a deal breaker.
Yes, I think it's wrong.
Right.
So wrong for a man to not want to date a woman who's 5'4 ⁇ and weighs 200 pounds.
Weight Deal Breakers00:15:04
I mean, yeah, if it's simply off of that, then yeah.
Because if he likes her in all the other ways and his only deal breaker is weight, I don't think that's right.
But I hold that standard.
You're smuggling in a bit of extra criteria.
But the statement is a woman should not.
Would it be unfair for a woman to say a man comes up to her and he's she's how tall are you?
5'9.
Okay.
You're how tall?
5'7 ⁇ ?
5'8.
5'8.
And you said 6 feet?
Okay, would it be wrong for her to reject a guy who's five foot tall?
I mean, no, because that's her preference.
But I mean, if that's the deal breaker, I think so.
I'm just saying that, though, because usually I get to know the person before I actually date them.
So, like, if the only deal breaker is their height or their weight or their hair, like, to me, that's not smart for anybody.
Okay, but the question is, a woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
To me, rejection is a deal breaker.
I don't, I mean, maybe from a distance, but like, I don't know.
I mean, I guess it just depends on what you mean.
Rejection to me is like, I don't know, you ask somebody to be with you and they say no.
That's my idea of it.
Not like a on the surface.
I don't know.
Like, maybe, I just don't assume that a woman would come up to a guy ever.
So, I don't really see the world in which somebody would.
You don't think men can reject women?
No, they can, but I mean, for that to be a deal breaker, I do think it's wrong.
If you've been talking to someone and you like them, if that's the one thing.
You're adding a qualifier that was not granted in the question.
Well, yes.
A woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
Can I ask, can a woman reject a man on a dating app?
Sure, but can a man reject a woman on a dating app?
Sure, but I don't know where you're talking about.
Let's say on a dating app in his profile, on the man's profile, it says that he's five feet.
Can a woman reject him for that?
She wants to, sure, but I don't think it's right.
But it's on a dating app, so I mean, it's just that's how it's going to be.
So she's wrong.
Is she wrong?
No, that's what she wants.
No, but you're asking about my opinion, right?
It's not right.
It's wrong.
Only if it's like the deal breaker, yeah.
Yes, it can be.
But the thing is, I don't meet people online.
That's why I'm trying to say I don't know.
Like, when I've dated guys significantly shorter than me, so I just, I don't know, or much heavier than me.
I've dated some very heavy-set guy.
Okay, I understand that you've dated these men, but if it's a deal breaker, I think it's wrong.
So how about this?
It's not a deal breaker thing.
A guy walks up to her and he's a fucking dwarf.
He's a fucking midget.
He walks up to her.
Is she wrong?
Is she wrong for rejecting him?
Well, if he just walked up to her, then no.
I mean, that's different.
That's not what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm talking about.
Yeah, and I said no already.
So that's why I'm saying I don't know where we're going back.
But so if she's like considering him, I would assume, I would assume that she's okay with a height thing.
Well, like, that's why I'm saying I don't.
I just don't look at things like this.
I really don't.
I don't know.
But you understand that men and women are different than you.
Oh, absolutely.
So they might have different preferences.
Oh, absolutely.
Is there anything that's a deal breaker for you?
Probably if they smoke cigarettes, for example, or they're like, if they're a parent who doesn't want to be active in their children's lives or they're unfaithful, history of cheating.
And it's not wrong for you to reject somebody who's a smoker.
No, I mean, I just don't want to smell it.
Okay, so what if a guy?
And it's unhealthy, like super unhealthy.
What if a guy doesn't want to be in the presence of a 500-pound woman romantically and attempt to have sex with her?
Attempt.
Keyword attempt.
Then don't do it.
I mean, you have to be able to.
Climb.
That's what I said.
Then, like, no, I mean, fucking move that shit around to get that.
As a person, I don't know.
I don't even think, as some I mentioned before, I have an average penis.
I don't even think I can make it.
I don't even think I could get there.
There's too much fat.
I don't know.
Fucking crowd, I guess.
Bro, so, okay.
Is it wrong for a man to reject a woman because of her weight?
Now, there's other people.
I wish I asked everybody first.
Lindsay, you think it's the case, Veronica?
A woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
Why is that?
If it's solely because of her weight, I just think that would be mean in my opinion.
It would be mean.
Yeah.
If like it was me, like if a really fat guy came up to me, I wouldn't want to reject him because he's fat.
So you would reject him.
Wait, I don't understand.
Not necessarily.
You'd go on a date with him.
Yes, if he was nice, but I wouldn't reject him solely because he's fat.
So he's 500 pounds and you don't reject him?
I'm not going to reject him solely because he's 500 pounds.
He has every single one.
Yeah, he has high shoes, but that's other people.
If he's asking individualized questions, I'll go on to date for some people.
Like, why not?
Exactly.
Oh, fuck it.
I don't want to date with a 500-pound man.
Wait, Melville.
Like, y'all are just fat footwork.
Wait, wait.
I don't have a problem dating a fat foot.
Okay, Veronica, you said you're 5'4", and the minimum height you would date is 5'5".
Yeah, but...
So you would reject men below 5'5".
I'm...
I mean, it's just my preference.
I would rather date someone who is 5'3 ⁇ , and above.
But again, yes.
No, the question is, it's baked into the question.
But it's the minimum height you would date of a guy.
That means you would reject a guy who's 4'11.
It's baked into the question.
Brooklyn's shaking.
See, Brooklyn, I like Brooklyn.
She's just shaking her head.
She's like, Brian, you're fucking spot on.
But I'm not dating.
Like that.
It's not like I'm taking it so seriously.
Like.
Be for real.
Wait, wait, wait.
How many boyfriends have you had?
One.
How tall was he?
6'4.
Oh, wow.
Oh, the one fucking boyfriend she had, she would date a guy who's 5'5, which is well below the average male height.
I never heard of that.
Conveniently, by the way, 6'4, that's like one in the top.
That's the 99th percentile of height.
Like 1% of men are 6'4 and above.
Congrats.
You would date a 5'5 guy, but conveniently, the one guy you were not, the one boyfriend you've ever had was 6'4.
It writes the jokes right themselves.
Holy fuck.
You know what?
Oh, my God.
Sorry, Veronica.
I don't mean to fucking harsh on you, but god damn.
Good for you, though.
It's like, okay, yeah, I would date a short guy.
How tall have all your boyfriends been?
6'3, 6'2, 6'3?
I male, like, one boyfriend.
That's not that, but it's funny that the man, the only man you've ever been in a relationship with, is like a 1% height.
He's top 1%.
Yeah, I don't care about that.
Okay, but is it wrong then for men to not want to reject a woman?
By the way, I'm not saying men should be dicks about it, but it doesn't even have to, it doesn't have to be like, hey, the fact a 500-pound woman walks up to me, even me, the fucking asshole, I'm not going to be like, bitch, you're too fat.
I'm going to be like, I would actually be like, I would be like, props to her.
She like shot her shot.
Hey, thank you so much.
That's very nice.
I'm not looking for anything.
I wouldn't even say anything about her weight.
I'd be polite.
Yeah.
But I'm not.
You wrote the question, though.
What do you mean?
What's wrong with the question?
You wrote it because that is a topic on your mind.
Like you're just thinking about weight.
Yeah, it's a people.
Okay.
It's a what?
It's a fair question.
Yeah, it's a fair question.
But okay, Veronica.
But it will be different for each person, is all I'm saying.
We can't get upset.
Women that you had to write it down.
Wait, what do you mean?
Why would what matter?
Like it matters so much to you that you have to ask everyone this every time they go on the show.
Well, hold on.
Women also have a preference when it comes to body weight too.
But yeah, men don't want to date morbidly obese women, generally speaking.
Is that like shocking for you to hear?
Is 500 pounds obese?
Yeah.
Do you know?
Okay.
Yeah, that's morbidly obese.
That's bad.
Is this like shocking?
Like, I feel like Brooklyn.
Like, I don't understand.
Yeah, Brooklyn's my cheerleader here.
Hey, get her a popsicle.
She gets a prime.
Get my girl Brooklyn a fucking popsicle.
Tiffany.
Chop, chop, Tiffany.
Quickly, my dear.
Get her a popsicle.
And you know what?
Lexi's her friend.
Just because you said, like, cigarettes is unhealthy being 500 pounds.
Well, I mean, I think it's a really tall ass dude, so I'm just like, it's kind of different on height.
Bro, I don't care.
You could be 10 foot tall.
If you're 500 pounds, you still a fat fuck.
You still fat.
Honestly, I just don't pay attention to numbers.
Like, I just talk to a person and decide off that.
It's not numbers.
I don't understand.
It's obvious that they're fat.
No, not that.
I'm talking about when we talk about it, like when he says 500, I don't think like, oh, I know what that looks like.
Yeah.
Did you ever watch 500 shows?
Get Lexi.
I don't like watch things, so no.
Get Lexi one.
And you know what?
Get.
I almost feel like I got to punish you two with food in some way.
Ew.
We have some expired pickles in the refrigerator.
You got.
No, I'm kidding.
Definitely not.
Yeah, give one for Lexi.
She gets the friend perks.
She gets the perks.
Brooklyn, you're hooking your friends up.
There it is.
Oh, my goodness.
Okay, Letitia, you also fucking circled that it's wrong or that a woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
Why is that?
Did I circle that?
Did you not mean to?
No, absolutely.
No, you're fine with me.
Oh, you're fine with me.
Okay.
All right, well, there it is then.
Have I changed your mind, V-Dog?
No.
No?
Is it still wrong?
Oh, thank you.
Let's get into the table.
Let's get into the.
Is this?
I'm just.
I'm not trying to be prodding.
Is this like are you leaving?
Is this a rage quit?
Or?
She just needs a second.
Ta-ta?
Afuera!
Peace out.
Peace out.
You too, homie.
Veronica, are you coming back?
Or I think she just needs a breath.
Yeah, I know.
I'm like, let her be, man.
If somebody gets up silently and walks away, that's your cue to leave them alone.
So I think if you're going to attack anybody right now, it should be the people who are sitting here willingly.
Well, I'm just making sure she's.
Yeah, but she clearly said she's not.
So I'm just making sure I'm seeing if she's not.
I don't know if she's taking a breather.
I don't know if she's leaving.
Tiffany, what's the like me too, man?
Fine, Veronica.
Veronica, if you come back, I promise to never reject a fat woman ever.
Is that fair trick, Veronica?
That's gonna trick her.
I know.
No, I'm not.
Like, now I want to leave too, man.
Is this what you're doing?
Oh, wait.
Oh, we should collect the trash.
We should take these off the Tiffany, dear.
Chop, chop, get these.
Don't force me to do that.
I do.
No, we're not.
I'm not going to force her.
We're going to simply ask her if she'd like to come back.
She's welcome to come back.
She is welcome to come back, my dear.
Please pass the plates down to Lexington and give her the plates.
I would just give her a minute.
I think I heard the door slam.
Ta-ta, my dear.
Ta-ta.
Toodles, I say.
Oh, yes, indeed.
Please take my goodness.
I've given you guys pizza and none of you ate it.
Oh, my goodness.
Oh, ridiculous.
How dare you?
Ta-ta.
I'm like, I might top top friends.
How many girls have you made cry on this podcast?
I don't know what was there to.
Oh, my God.
Hey, you're dropping shit.
What the fuck?
Sally.
I don't know how.
Look, I've made less than 10 women cry on this podcast.
Which is fucked up because it's like strong ass women.
I don't think it should have even won.
The fact that you do that to people is not a good thing.
We did come here voluntarily.
Wait, you said, wait, repeat.
Like, just pushing people.
I just think that pushing people to that extent isn't very good.
Pushing?
Well, he kept going back to her when she literally wasn't even saying anything.
She made it very clear that she did not want to talk, just like she didn't make it clear she's on a date.
Yeah, but what she did.
Hold on.
You did not ignore the fact that she wanted to move on.
Yeah, so I don't need to acquiesce.
If you're on a dating discussion podcast.
Yeah, but you shouldn't force people to give her forces.
Forcing with someone would be to walk over there, grab her lips, and then you're going to go over her head.
I think if somebody says they're done, then they're done.
You don't have people just going out of responses.
I think within their responses, they're not giving a real response.
And that's why she's pushing.
It's a verbal discussion podcast.
There's an expectation that you're going to contribute and have a conversation.
If you think I pushed hard on her, you should see fucking Andrew Wilson.
Look, it's fair game.
I'm like, I don't even know who that is.
Oh, my God.
I mean, you and Andrew Tate are like on the same level.
Talking about Andrew Wilson, not Andrew Tate.
No, Andrew Tate.
Andrew Tate is.
Me and Andrew Tate are not on the same level.
W, Brooklyn, for having my fucking back.
Let's go.
W's in the chapter of Brooklyn.
Get her some fucking palms.
Get her another popsicle.
Get her.
Hey, actually, yes, double fist.
Brooklyn is going to be double fisting pots.
Tiffany.
Oh, wow.
Tiffany, do you have a double fisting?
Tiffany, get to get another popsicle.
Why don't you just give her money?
The popsicles.
Double fist the popsicles.
Okay, let's move.
Let's get blast through this.
We're almost done with the questionnaire too.
Let's see where we were at.
So, what are we trying to do?
Like, when are we going to be done?
Do you know?
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe if you didn't.
Like, it's vague, bro.
Maybe if you just gave me a straight answer, we would have been out of here an hour ago.
No, I'm going to give you the accurate answers that I believe in.
It's currently Monday.
You can like them or dislike them.
Virginity And Responsibility00:11:37
I don't really care.
Okay, how about 1211?
What?
Oh, shit.
I got to go.
Hey, no, sit down.
Sit down.
I cannot stay here this late.
Finish the show.
Oh, man.
Finish the show.
All right.
Your promos fucking go.
Out your fucking tip.
Can you?
Nah, just fucking dip.
Just get out.
Just get out.
Out you go.
Out you fucking go.
What's your body count?
Oh, yeah.
What's your body count?
No?
Yeah.
All right.
Oh, my gosh.
Should we move in?
Yeah, we can fix this a little bit.
All right, you three scoot down that way, I guess.
Or you two, excuse me.
Scoot down that way.
Tata.
Tata, dear.
Ta-ta.
I like flies.
I mean, we didn't even have to do it.
I think we'll have straight answers now.
I think so.
Peace out.
Peace out.
You too, homie.
Great to see you.
Glad you can make it.
Oh, no.
I have two.
Where is Sparta?
How much older do you think it's going to be?
Bro, I'm trying to.
I'm trying to wrap.
I'm trying to get it wrapped.
I'll drive.
I'm trying to get it wrapped.
But yeah, I think maybe another Another hour.
Yeah, our shows are like eight hours.
We've only been live for like oh my god, stop being babies.
You guys are fun.
Wait, what happens here?
Wait, what?
Why are you doing that?
Wait, what are you guys doing?
My flight's today.
This makes literally no sense what you just did.
I did this.
So there's no chair.
I don't know.
What do you, what's going on?
What?
No, no, no, no.
Fuck.
Hey, get the fuck out.
That's my fucking producer.
Out you fucking go.
Don't disrupt my producer.
Out you fucking go.
Nah, you were being fucking rude and fucking giving me attitude.
Out you fucking go.
Don't fucking come and disrupt my fucking producer.
I don't know why you guys are doing this with the chairs.
Somebody should still be sitting there.
Just come back.
No, I meant us too.
I meant these people scoot over.
What?
Literally makes no sense.
Holy shit.
Wait, so I should move back.
Actually, holy shit.
Stay there.
Do I stay here?
No, go back to where you were.
Here, you know what?
You two switch.
Here, this is what we're going to do.
Here, wait, scoot down.
Scoot down.
Yeah, yeah.
Everybody scoot down.
Scoot down.
God damn.
That was way too much.
So wait a second.
Holy shit.
Not that complicated.
Damn, bro.
Hold on.
Let me just see here.
Okay, we're good.
All right.
Here, let me try to get through this then.
That's fucking lame as fuck, though.
Oh my god, she loses her fucking mind over the.
It's fine for that girl, Veronica, to want to date a guy who's over 5'5 and to reject him if he's below 5'5.
But it's wrong for men to have a weight preference in women.
Totally incoherent.
Totally fucking incoherent.
Both of them were divas and like wants to fucking what Brooklyn pointed this out quite accurately where the girl with the frizzy curly hair or whatever said that I made her.
What did she say?
I made her feel that way or what?
What was it?
She said that you were like pushing her.
Oh, yeah.
No, no, no.
It wasn't that.
She said forcing her.
No, no, no.
It wasn't that.
Chat.
She that I made her feel bad.
I say.
No, you were like, Brian didn't make her feel anything.
She was just sensitive on her own.
I think that's what you were trying to get at.
Yeah.
Ridiculous.
Oh, I made her cry.
Okay.
How do I make somebody cry?
Yeah.
She wants to reject men.
You have to work yourself up to cry.
She wants to reject men that are below 5'5.
I'm telling her that it's not wrong for men to reject a woman because of her weight.
These are completely...
Whatever, bro.
That's the sisterhood, though.
Like, she cries.
As soon as women cries, logic goes out the, oh my God, we have to coddle her.
That's what we call coddling.
The girl that was sitting there, chair five, was coddling her.
As soon as a woman cries, even if she's crying over some nonsense, I think chair five to walk out on her own.
She might have.
She might have, but that woman was completely devoid of any sort of logic.
So it's nuanced, though.
I don't know.
And it's yes and no.
I don't think I'll ever use that word.
I'm like traumatized.
Any case, that does mean we will be able to get through the show a little bit faster, I suppose.
So I'm going to try to go quick, I guess.
There was one more here.
Wait, so okay, I got to remove.
One sec.
I got to remove Lindsay.
And I got to remove Veronica.
One sec, guys.
One sec.
I think we're actually done with the questionnaire, truth be told.
So then we just have the notes.
We have the questions.
Alright, you guys are, congrats for, I was a little spot, I've been spicy tonight, not going to lie.
So good job.
You guys have made it.
I thought she worked up.
You guys are troopers.
You guys are troopers.
Hold on.
Let me change the title of the video to, um, I have to change the title of the video.
One sec.
Two.
I'm going to say two rage quits.
Hold on.
What was the title?
Yeah, what was it?
Hater came to destroy Brian, 18-year-old ruined.
Why would you like that?
Like, what?
18-year-old what?
No, we pulled it up.
I see an AI generated version of me.
And then she's like, is that you?
And I was like, and it says 18-year-old ruined.
I was like, I think I'm the only 18-year-old here.
Oh, shit.
Why was it that?
Ruined.
I mean, she does FinDom.
It's over.
What does that mean?
It's over.
You're ruined.
Lexington.
You're fucking ruined.
Lexington.
Lexington.
You're music on you.
I said, no, you don't.
Lexington.
It's over.
Lexi Lou.
Lexi Lou.
Here, hold on.
Let me change the titles.
Any thoughts from anybody?
Delete my ruined, please.
Okay, here, I'll.
Or else I'm walking out.
I'm going to say, you know what?
I'll change it to 18-year-old actually.
I'm going to keep it ruined for us.
No.
It was like us as AI.
Hey, I mean, you know, ruined AI, you know?
Okay.
Two rage quits.
There we go.
Changing the.
Excuse me.
Excuse me, sir.
Sir.
Hey, yo, wait.
Master.
Tea dog.
Yeah.
What I need you to do, Dia.
I need you to.
I'm fucking.
Never mind.
I needed to.
Twitch.
Twitch, please.
Port for four.
Guys, if you're watching over there on Twitch, we're about to get to some juicy shit.
I need to see Prime subs.
I need to see seven Prime subs, boys.
Seven Prime subs.
Drop them.
Brooklyn Ting.
Brooklyn, Brooklyn.
Whoops.
Shout out the people that are dropping Primes.
The names.
Yeah, read the names.
Read the names.
I need to see some of the Radio 40.
Say thank you.
Say thank you.
Thank you, the Radio 40.
Okay, the next one.
Socks RL.
Thank you.
Arnold 1511.
Wait, why am I doing it?
Prime.
On the right.
Yeah, yeah, on the right.
The blue boys.
You got this girl.
The blue boys.
Read the blue boys.
Subconscious content.
Are those ones I'm reading?
Yep.
Oh, okay.
I love that for you.
Okay, she's struggling.
We'll get her.
We'll get her.
I don't know.
Someone else do it.
Who lost their V card to Druski?
Druski.
Somebody said somebody lost their V card to Druski.
Wasn't that Bambi?
Who said that?
Who's Druski?
Druski, the big foul.
That's really funny.
He is funny.
Okay.
Let's see here.
We did that.
Oh, past.
Some of you said that.
Fuck, these are all over now.
Oh, well.
Past should not matter.
Passion not matter.
Chris, you think passion on matter?
Maria, passion on matter.
Letitia, passion on matter.
I guess here, I'm just gonna skip ahead.
What's your body count?
Two.
Okay.
Ten.
Okay.
One.
One?
Okay.
Like 20.
Seven?
No, I said like 20.
Oh, it sounded like there's going to be a 20.
Nine.
Okay.
Around 30.
Wait, can I have you guys scoot like one inch that way so I get you in frame?
Yeah.
So like there might actually actually, I think we're good there.
Look at that.
Brian all alone and all the girls over there.
I love it.
As it should be.
As it should be.
Your perfume was fucking killing me during the whole show, Julia.
Sorry.
Rude.
Okay, so.
Wait, body count?
Oh, I don't keep track, but probably somewhere between 20 and 30.
Okay.
And then you said what?
Sorry?
30-ish.
I don't remember all of them, so.
Could it be 40?
Or it's between 30 and 40?
Yeah, it could be 40.
I won't lie.
I'll give my answer.
I'm a virgin.
I still don't believe that.
Whatever.
Lies.
Cap.
Why are you side-eyeing?
That makes me sus.
Who knows?
I am a virgin.
I'm waiting until I turn 40 to lose it.
What?
When are you 40?
Like three, four years.
When did you decide that?
Just now?
Yeah.
On the podcast.
And why do you think that a woman would be willing to take your virginity, a 40-year-old?
Yeah.
It's a lot of responsibility, right?
It's a lot of responsibility.
What's your problem?
You know, it's just, what can I say?
Honestly, the big thing is I tried a few times, but I never made it.
So it's equal to it.
Wait, you said you did it.
It's just like it doesn't go in.
It's like, yeah, black girl.
I did.
Yeah, and I said earlier, what was it for?
For repayment or something?
Yeah.
For reparations.
That was my.
What do you mean?
You just stuck it in, stuck it back out, and then you're not a virgin.
That's halfway.
It's just too big.
It doesn't go in.
I can't put it in, so it's...
Taking A 40 Year Old's Virginity00:04:01
I'm kidding.
It's average.
It's average.
Okay, anyways.
For help's sake, it's average.
What is average?
I'm a born-again virgin.
Oh, my God.
Maybe this new year.
Every week, my virginity returns.
Okay.
Do you guys think dating is actually, wait, hold on.
Is there anything about getting laid?
What?
Getting laid.
Yeah, fuck it.
Whatever.
We're done with the questionnaire.
Oh wait, there was a girl who, let me see if she's still here.
There was a girl who drove here who was an hour late, and I was like, if somebody leaves, I guess you can come on the show.
Hold on, let me.
But aren't we, like, almost done?
Yeah, yeah, we're almost done, but I just want to see if she's still here just for shits and giggles.
Yeah, you should be hanging around.
Does she live here?
Come on, Verdon.
Can she FaceTime us?
Hold on.
We'll put her right here.
Yeah.
Is she still here?
One sec, guys.
One sec.
Let's see.
Are you still here, lol?
Lol.
Lol.
Are you still here, lol?
Hey, fuck it.
That'd be kind of funny.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, I'm going to blast through everybody's show notes here.
By the way, Lindsay, she said she was a polymath.
Does anybody know what that means?
Does that mean like polyrelationship?
Polymath.
Mathematical mathematics.
Polymath?
I can't think so.
Definitely not.
A polymath is an individual with deep expert level knowledge across multiple diverse fields, often synthesizing these areas to solve complex problems.
She really described that.
Her answer to everything would just be it depends.
Like, that's not fucking.
Like, I think being able to be really precise, that's intellect.
Not, I don't know, it depends on that's like just cope.
Shows you know, she also said, Oh my god, I wish she was still here.
Fuck.
Oh, she had such good notes.
Fuck my life.
Okay, whatever.
All right, well, that's probably.
She said, twice, she's a 2E, twice exceptional, gifted students who also have learning disability.
Well, that checks out, I guess.
She's also a, she claims her.
Oh, my God, this would have been chat.
She wrote in her notes that she was a philosopher.
Yeah, I had this discussion with her.
You were up doing stuff.
I was like, what's philosophy?
And she goes, oh, I don't follow other people's philosophy.
It's like my philosophy.
Oh, my God.
That would have been so.
I'm like, oh my God, it was so good.
Wait, you said on stream?
Yes, it is.
Oh, my God.
I would have been like, name one philosophy.
That's literally kind of pretty much what it did.
I was like, what the hell?
She was not like my writing math.
She's like, not like academic.
I'm like, then what is it?
Philosophy is the school of thought.
Hold on.
Like, so maybe somebody.
Oh, you got to listen to it.
It's real good.
Can somebody in the chat?
Bro, she's so philosophical.
Wait, but I guess, like, technically, chat, could someone be a philosopher and not have read any philosophy?
Like, could you, couldn't, I'm being super charitable here, but couldn't you come to your technically right?
But I'm pretty sure if you're a philosopher, you know, fucking, you know, John Locke, you know Kant, you know all these Schopenhauer, you know these people, you know these philosophers, right?
Like, if you've like, you're not gonna come to the same philosophical, you can, but most people are not gonna come to the same philosophical revelations without having like read logically, you can, you can, but anyways, fuck it.
What?
Logically yes, but unlikely, highly unlikely.
Anyways whatever okay, but fuck it.
She's not here.
So man, I wish, I wish we got into the whatever.
Um uh Julia, let's do Julington.
Unique Memorable Dating Stories00:03:46
Uh, you had a unique, memorable dating story.
Why don't you tell us?
Oh man, I can't remember what which story I wrote down?
The whole relationship was a dumpster fire and he was just clinically, clinically like ill.
Um, which one did I write down?
Like, give me the first sentence, okay uh, you met wait oh, like the, you dated a relationship.
You dated an extremely toxic, abusive and immature guy in your late 20s.
He was eight years older and you have crazy stories from him.
Um, he was cheating on you.
He um, at the end he cheated on me, like and like you, you wait.
So okay okay here, let me try to prompt it.
So he got another girl's name tattooed on the rib.
He, I believe it's that girl.
He fucked that girl the day that you moved into his house and she was there.
He flew her out the morning of and I had no idea.
Okay okay, so also, she was Korean, looked just like me, but kind of bottle servicey Convinced me that I was in an open relationship with him and this girl while she lived in a different state.
And, you know, she, so he was like, so if we're gonna start, you know, spending time and seeing each other, it's gonna be in an open relationship because I'm in an open relationship with another girl in X state.
And I have never, you know, I was naive.
I was open-minded though.
And I was like, you know, I've never been in an open relationship.
I was so into this guy.
I was like, you know, I'll give it a shot.
Who knows?
Maybe I can do it.
And so I was willingly participating in this.
So when he's like, well, I'm going to fly out to see my other girlfriend for this holiday.
I felt like I had to be okay with it, right?
Because I'm willing to participate in this.
So I would literally drive into the airport to go visit his other girlfriend.
And then on one of these trips, he comes back and he goes, I had to tell you something.
As we're sitting down to the dinner that I cooked him, you know, I was like, oh, welcome home.
And he's like, I'll tell you after dinner.
And he pulled his hoodie up and I pulled his shirt up with it.
And he has her name in Korean tattooed on his ribs.
On the side I slept on, by the way.
And he had that tattoo the whole three and a half years we were together.
Can I have you guys scoot down a little further just so you're more in frame?
Yeah.
And then he told your parents or something that you were bipolar and a drug addict.
Is that he told his parents?
Wait, can you scoot your mic that way too?
Scoot, Perfect.
Okay.
He told his parents that I was a bipolar drug addict.
Were you?
No.
Were you?
No.
I was.
Okay, I will say I was diagnosed with bipolar two at the time.
Another psychiatrist I saw later told me I was misdiagnosed.
But, you know, I was accepting of that diagnosis.
I don't think there's anything wrong with having a mental illness as long as knowing what you have actually gives you the ability to do something about it.
So him being my partner, I just thought this is something he should know so that he has context.
It's not his responsibility, but he has context.
And he would just use it against me.
Like if I ever started crying, he'd be like, oh, you're just having an episode.
Or he would say, I was emotionally abused.
And whenever I would cry, which was all the time with this guy, he would go, oh my God, you're emotionally abusing me.
And I was like, what do you think emotionally abusive means?
He's like, you're abusing me with your emotions.
I cry.
Oh, he was so dumb.
Exploratory Sex Perspectives00:13:48
But I liked that.
I did back then.
I thought there was something endearing about dumb men.
Okay.
I actually heard from Luke.
He does say you can read it.
I mean, I haven't read the whole thing.
I'm just going to skim it super quick.
Hold on, guys.
So Luke is her boyfriend of 12 years.
They've been on the rocks a little bit.
You've been shitty to him.
He's been shitty to you.
He says, thanks for sticking up for the bros.
Let's go.
You guys have had mountain peak highs and rock bottom lows.
Went to high school together.
Men want to fix the problem.
Women want to tell you how the problem makes them feel.
Another shot of women.
Maria was about to run off a cliff with her feelings.
I'd rather fix the holes than abandon ship.
The problems are truly, totally fixable.
I love the gal.
We've always been crazy, but it keeps us from going insane.
Holding the course for now, and I believe forevers.
She really is quite a catch.
Interesting to say the least to say, wait, interesting to say the least, funny, sweet, silly.
And I love her girly little noises.
Ha ha.
Girly little noises?
What is girly little noises?
What's that?
Oh, shit.
Okay, that's a really good thing.
I like that.
That's all you do.
I mean...
You baby talk?
Yes, I know.
You're like happy, like, hey!
Oh my gosh.
That's really sweet.
I think that's a cute domain.
Why did you read that?
Oops, my bad.
Julia, you do have one disagreement.
You think going through a hoe phase can be really empowering and enlightening for women, and you think there's a right way to do it.
So give me your argument for that.
Okay, I mean, it's what you would call a ho phase, but I think being intimate with more than one guy at a time, not in a relationship.
I think it can, I don't know, let a girl discover more about her sexuality, get more comfortable with it.
But there is like an ethical piece, right?
I think if you do have a roster, it's only fair for all these guys to know that they are on a roster.
Like, again, consent, right?
Like knowing what you're getting into.
Sure.
And that's, I'm not saying it's, it's, I don't know, good behavior or godly.
I'm just saying if you're going to do it, it can be done a certain way.
And I think for some women, yeah, I think, I don't think there's anything wrong with a woman like really embracing her sexuality.
I mean, who here, really quick before I give my take, does anybody agree with her?
Like ho phases can be empowering and enlightening.
Does anybody agree with her?
I don't, I wouldn't say like empowering, but I'd be like, I mean, it's fine, I guess.
Yeah, maybe it could be fun.
Brooklyn, what do you think?
I've never really had a hoe phase, but I guess it could be like a learning lesson.
Yeah.
Let me ask the magic eight ball.
What the fuck?
Okay, never mind.
What did it say?
Said yes.
It's fucking bullshit.
Don't say enlightenment.
Prospect good.
Eight ball never lies.
It was in crack.
But in any case, yeah, so when you say, so you would be sleeping with multiple men at the same time, is that correct?
Yeah.
Not like same day, but like going on dates next day.
Did you ever sleep with two guys in the same day?
It's 24 hours ever?
I think maybe in my early 20s I did.
I don't think that was an empowering and enlightening phase for me.
I will say that.
Okay.
Well, of course it's empowering.
No matter what you have a lesson to take out of it, and it's like, I don't know.
Oh my God, we got trauma to take out of it.
Yeah, I mean, I think that like exploring your sexuality, you can explore your sexuality with your one boyfriend.
Like, I don't understand this.
Didn't you say explore sexuality?
Yeah, you could explore your sexuality with one guy.
You can also explore nature on one mountain.
Would you say that is a well-experienced mountaineer?
Well, how about this?
You, okay, say there's multiple mountains, but you always take the same trail up all of those mountains and you do it quickly.
And those mountains typically don't result in as pleasurable an experience as that one mountain that just really gets you and knows what you like and you know what the mountain looks like.
No, that's exactly what I'm saying.
You have to like go, I have to climb these mountains to be like one mountain and you explore all that mountain's nooks and crannies.
Just be so certain that there's one mountain.
One mountain is the best mountain.
It's the best.
And you know that for sure.
You can make that mountain the best.
Okay, I see where you're going with this.
You make that mountain the best.
I see where you're going with this.
But I don't, sometimes I think you have to climb those other mountains to be like, this is the mountain, and I'm going to make this mountain the best.
I don't know.
I don't, I know this is the weirdest analogy.
No, that's perfect.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
The best sex you've ever had, was it a one-night stand or was it with a loving partner?
Loving partner.
Right.
So my perspective is, is that one, I think the best sex you're going to have is going to be with a girl who loves you and who you love back.
Also, there's a level of, even if you say you're not in love yet, as you continue to have more sex with the person, you become more, you know each other better, you develop comfort.
And then that level of comfort is going to, I think, make the sex better.
And then just from a practical perspective, she knows exactly what you like, assuming you guys are communicating well in that regard.
She knows exactly what you like.
I know exactly what she likes.
But do you know what you like?
Because all you're getting is what she's giving.
Well, I think men are simpler creatures in this regard than women.
Yeah.
Women.
I'm not talking about men going through a ho phase.
I'm talking about women.
Well, I think that I can sort of see the motivation from like an exploratory sex perspective, I guess.
Whereby like there, I think there's a pretty wide range of sexual experiences you can have with a man.
Because like you can have a guy who cannot make you come, and then you can be with a guy who makes you.
It's like a woman has to go out of her way to make sex bad.
Like as a guy, I can take a woman who's a virgin.
I can take a woman who has minimal experience and I can have great sex with her.
Because men, we lead, or we can lead.
I don't know if women have that same desire to like teach a guy how to fuck her.
Like that's a turn off, I think, for a lot of women.
If you're, you know, what you're doing in the bedroom, but that's also just inherently, huh?
I don't know.
I just feel like I just, this is my personal experience.
I was very like sexual, I felt very sexually constipated.
I was very ashamed of the act.
I never enjoyed it, but I felt like I was obligated to get it.
That's fucked up.
And going through.
Oh, FaZe kind of helped me break through that.
And made me, you know, I don't, I think I'm a better lover because of it.
Tiffany, can you give me two water bottles?
I mean, yeah, so you can, from the racks over there.
I mean, yeah, I guess technically if you just fuck a bunch of a bunch of dudes, you'll be better.
You might be better at sex, huh?
Water bottles in the closet or whatever.
But like, I would never do that trade.
Like, okay, the trade, I would never be like, hmm, okay.
Yeah, maybe a girl who's fucked 100 men is going to be better in bed than a woman who's going to be better in bed than a woman who's a virgin.
I don't take the trade.
I don't, I never take that trade.
Okay, I don't think I said better in bed.
It didn't make me.
I don't say it made me better in bed.
I thought that was my understanding.
And it was enlightening.
Okay, but you would agree that you could become empowered in bed.
I don't know.
I mean, I think it's different, though, because I think, Like, it's really easy for women to be good in bed.
But, like, yeah, you're maybe as a woman, you're just yeah, it's really easy for a woman to pleasure.
Man, that's easy.
But it's, I think it can be difficult for a woman to really feel in her body and really sexual in bed for herself, right?
For her pleasure, you know?
I suppose.
And I said it can, if done a certain, and it should be done a certain way, I think, my opinion.
Yeah, but men don't prefer that, I think.
Don't prefer what?
For women to be promiscuous.
I agree.
I wouldn't consider my hoe phase is promiscuity.
It is a promiscuous time of my life, yeah.
I wouldn't consider myself a prison.
What's your body count again?
About 20 to 30.
Okay, that's on the higher end.
Yeah.
It's not we've we've heard higher.
It's not insane, but it is on the higher end.
Yeah.
For her age, though.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I wasn't.
It depends also like timing in life.
Like, I mean, from my own experience, like, I have had a lot in within not a lot of years because I didn't know me.
I didn't know.
Like, I did not really know what I wanted.
Like, I was lost in my life when I was younger.
And then now I am like a saint and I don't want anybody in my life at all.
So it's like, well, does that really like the experience is important, I think.
And I am glad that I hit it.
I am glad that I had it.
But it can change throughout like.
Sorry, I'm flicking off the.
What are you doing?
Scuffed, Tiffany.
Scuffed.
Sorry.
Sorry, I'm listening.
I'm listening.
I was flicking them off in my reflection here.
See that?
Fuck you guys.
Just kidding.
Not you guys, the viewers.
I love the viewers disregarding.
Never mind.
Okay, continue.
Continue.
No, just to say that I think no matter what the experience is important, what you do with it is important.
And how you consider your men later is important too.
And that body count is like, well, if you keep going all like, there is a huge difference, I think, between keeping on going with your body count or just like having had a good time.
I also think there's a point of diminished returns.
Like, it's not like the more sex you have with the more men, just the more enlightened and whatever.
It's like, yeah, Lord.
I mean, I think, I actually think that.
So you say that going through ho phase can be really empowering and enlightening.
I actually think the more empowering and enlightening thing is being, as a woman, is being very selective and not being a hoe.
That's empowering.
That's enlightening.
But you need to understand that.
When I was 20, I had no fucking clue.
Now I understand that.
Yeah, like getting committed to someone that I don't even know is empowering me to.
I think it's magical.
I'm like, nobody's touching me right now.
And I'm like, oh my God, I'm just like, I can sing only like that guy is going to have the privilege of that.
And I think it's wonderful.
Okay.
But 20 years ago, I had no fucking clue.
And I was, for me, having sex was like, well, maybe he's going to be my friend after that.
Maybe, you know, like I had, to me, that was an empowerment.
And I didn't realize that it was a, how do you say that?
Like, it was pushing me down.
It was not like, it was doing the effect, the opposite effect of what I thought I was doing.
And, but it took me 20 years to understand that.
So maybe I'm slower than anyone else.
Maybe my experiences in life just led me there.
But yeah, I think now I am empowered.
So those play, like, it was empowering no matter what because I learned a lot.
Yeah, I mean, look, ultimately, yeah, I do think that it would be more empowering and enlightening for instead of women erring into promiscuity to err more into I'm not saying you have to wait until marriage.
I'm not saying you have to remain a virgin, whatever.
But try to like think about it like this.
If you're going to like this guy who you're going to sleep with, you should have on the woman's end, you should have genuine intention for that guy to be your boyfriend or long-term intention.
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And you should hope that he feels the same way about you.
If you're just going on Tinder, fucking dudes, if you're just going out to the bar, having a drunken one-night stand, I don't know.
I think.
Well, for that, you need a mom that teaches you that.
No, you need a fucking dad.
Or dad.
However, parents that can teach you what respect is, what self-respect is, all of that.
You can watch the whatever podcast.
Oh, well, I'm glad I wasn't born with intranet.
Like, very, very happy.
Well, Maria, going to your notes, you said that I'm cringe, I guess.
Sometimes you did van life for like three years.
You bust your ass full-time in a warehouse.
we talked about the boyfriend thing.
Um, uh, past does matter.
We kind of already talked about that.
Tell us about the why do girls think they can be a stay-at-home girly and not what?
Well, if you're not having their kid, then like you need to cook, clean, be in shape, have some hobby, be able to grow a garden, like have skills, pretty much.
And I know girls that don't have children, stay at home, and can't even cook a meal.
Nothing?
Yeah, because you wrote, you wrote, why do girls think they can be a stay-at-home girly and not have a breakfast made before he goes to work?
Oh, yeah.
His lunch packed, and a healthy dinner for when he comes home.
Because I do that shit.
House should be cleaned, kid taken care of.
If no kid, bitch, you need to have a garden or some herbs growing, a hobby, be in killer shape, something.
Shit.
You would even have your man's clothes laid out for the next day.
Fresh towel, boxers in the bathroom ready for after a shower.
He provides for you totally.
Take care of him.
Your man also needs to respect you.
Yeah, because I do that stuff working a full-time job.
Bless my ass.
So like, literally, I come home per day.
That's the bare minimum I think a girl should be doing.
Bare minimum.
I mean, yeah, that and more.
And if you really loved your man, you want to, that's what you want.
That's why I do it when I get off of work.
So, because I do love him, you know, like I still want to put your towel out in boxers, whatever, you know?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Whoever I'm with long-term, everything's going to be taken care of.
She's not going to have to work.
Gonna have like a very comfortable life, absent fucking catastrophe, I guess.
And yeah, I think she should do all that shit.
She should.
And she should bow, Tiffany.
Chop chopped, yeah?
Thanks.
I don't know.
If he was like, really treating me right, like in the bed and financially and in always, yeah, I'd bow.
Love it.
You know?
Congrats.
Good job.
All right.
This is a video I took of my ex-girlfriend.
I show it to new future girlfriends so they know how to act.
Oh, what the fuck?
Boom!
Huge bow.
She has to bow as soon as I get home.
I get home.
This was after a long podcast day.
So, yep, because I wear blue button downs.
And yeah, dinner's ready.
I like when a woman scampers like this.
I find it cute.
Cracks open a beer for me.
I don't even drink beer, but she still does it anyways.
And then she stirs my noodles because I consume lots of Asian food, I guess.
And get ready to play it once more, Tiffany.
Play it.
Just the beginning.
Play it.
Hip-hop.
Boom huge bow.
She almost got it.
Good job, Tiffany.
Yep, deep bow, submissive hand posture.
Submissive hand.
We got a sex.
Submissive hand posture.
This is my.
So, would you bow for a man?
Like that.
Do I like him?
Yeah.
He wants me to do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll bow.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
Even if he makes 20 million a year, she won't do it.
Slave stuff.
Yeah.
What if he's into that?
I wouldn't.
What if it's a white guy?
It doesn't matter, anyways.
What if his never mind?
Okay.
I don't care what the size of his pen is.
You wouldn't bow for the perfect guy?
Okay.
You'll get strangers lap dances for 20 bucks.
Okay.
No, I don't.
Okay, sorry, 100.
My bad.
I offered him $400.
$400?
Damn.
$400.
$400?
Yeah.
$400,000.
Okay.
Would you bow for a man?
B-Dog?
I feel like that'd be kind of funny.
Yeah, I would.
All right, love that for you.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
In certain circumstances.
Yeah, the guy you like.
Yeah, like, does she do that every day when you come back home?
Yeah, every day.
Are you acting like perfectly perfect with her?
Sometimes I pee on her in the bathroom.
You're not.
That sounds like some of the FinDom stuff.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm sitting.
I would rather say no.
I'm not into that.
I'm not into that.
Don't get any ideas, ladies.
Ew.
What is that you're saying?
You know what I'm saying?
No, I'm not into that.
I'm not into that.
I have a girl asked me to do it once, though.
Yep.
Really?
I believe it.
She did.
I mean, why not?
A girl did ask me to do that.
Pee on her?
And she did not.
Politely declined.
Be careful.
That's how you get STDs.
Okay, so I'll fuck it.
I'll just say.
No, I'm not going to.
I'm not going to.
It's TMI.
It's TMI.
It wasn't.
Okay, now I'm feeling like.
That's a yes.
Now I'm alluding to it.
Okay, it was a joke in the show.
We were showering together, and she was like, Can you pee on my leg?
What?
So it wasn't like, okay.
You guys could say that you peed on her in the shower.
I don't even think it was sexual.
she was just like can you do it and like it's did you it's It's gonna.
It's gonna get clean.
The water is gonna.
I know, right?
Was it a hot shower?
Huh?
Was it a hot shower?
It was a hot shower.
So she wouldn't even know.
Well, she asked me to do it.
She needs to do that.
Yeah, but she wouldn't really.
Anyways, anyways, fucking.
Not if you drink a lot of water.
Moving on, moving on.
Okay.
Where were we?
Oh, the bow.
Would you bow?
I wouldn't want to be with a guy who wants me to bow.
But I do other things.
Like, if my man asks for something that's a little submissive and very feminine and it makes him feel good and it doesn't make me feel gross and weird, I do it.
Like scratchy as that.
Your current.
Well, that's bare minimum.
Your current boyfriend, you wouldn't do it for him?
I wouldn't be with him.
He would never ask me.
But if he did, would you do it?
Hey, that's racist.
Why is that racist?
I thought you're black.
The video.
It's just.
Oh, wait, you're Asian?
No fucking way.
I thought you were like Mexican or something.
What?
Are you serious?
Yeah.
Doesn't she look Mexican?
I think he's being serious.
No, I.
I mean, sometimes.
Isn't it true that sometimes you confuse a Mexican with a I have a really funny story.
It's because I'm tan.
I was in.
You were so Mexican.
Oh my God.
One time I was at a pool like in high school and I was wearing sunglasses and I was so tan.
And all the kids I went to school with thought I was like a Mexican girl.
I think it's because I'm tan.
I maybe can get confused with like anywho.
One.
So, but you, your current boyfriend, you wouldn't do it?
I mean, at this point, if he wanted it.
She'd do it.
She'd do it.
I probably would.
I don't understand this objection to doing it in the sense that, like, I'm not saying all women do this, but the same woman who would like to suck a dude's dick after an hour, you're not going to hit a bow.
Like, you're going to, I'm not saying you guys do that.
I mean, maybe you do, but like, you're going to let a guy just like not that, hey, there's nothing wrong with that with that as an individual act, but it's like you're going to let a guy inside you.
But not bad.
But you won't do a wholesome little bow.
Is it wholesome?
Oh, super wholesome.
Super wholesome.
How about this?
The, you know, fine, the bow thing's a bit culturally weird.
The first time a girl comes over to my house, I want her to do the laundry.
The first time?
First time.
First time.
How about that?
Your dirty laundry.
Well, here's the thing.
I'm very hygienic.
Says who?
Says me.
I'm super hygienic.
You can't call yourself hygienic.
Well, I use like reviews.
I don't have skid marks ever because I use baby wipes.
You do?
You use the dude wipes?
Sure.
The dude wipes.
Yes, I use the dude wipes.
Are those baby wipes?
I was looking at those.
Those are makeup removal that you're about to use.
I'm not using those.
Oh, yeah.
Are you serious?
Okay.
Yes, I don't have skid marks.
I'm going to get my contacts out.
I want to eat mine.
Would you laundry?
Would you do laundry for a guy?
First time.
Not the first time, guys.
But I got to pay up to that.
Why the fuck do I got to pay for a date?
This girl, you got to pay for a date for this girl, but she won't do your laundry the first time you're going over to the dude's house.
I don't go over to a dude's house the first time I meet them.
No, not the first time you meet them.
The first time you go.
But we don't leave together.
He can tell his mom to do that.
Oh, yeah.
She's supposed to do my laundry.
If you don't leave together?
Am I supposed to pay for a first date if she's not?
I said you don't have to pay for the first date.
I want to do that.
I also said that.
She does.
I'm out of there.
She does.
I always said I'm not doing that.
I said I've gone half and half and I've got to do it.
You've done that sometimes, but other times the other men have done paid for it.
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
Well, bye God.
Congratulations.
I'm so proud of you.
If I went on a date and he paid and he was like, hey, can you fold my laundry?
I'd be like, no, I'm not saying on the first date, but I mean, look, ultimately, it should be the first date.
I think a girl should do that.
I think a girl.
See, I'm a wholesome man.
Just take her to the laundry room.
I'm a wholesome man.
On your first date.
If I take a girl, if I don't, look, if she wants to fuck, we can fuck.
But on the first date, if she wants to fold my laundry, I think that that's wholesome.
I doubt she would want to do that.
Oh, you should have told me.
Have you wanted?
So it's her.
Well, no, I mean, I want her to do it.
Are you just sitting there watching her though?
Like, what are you doing while she's doing the laundry?
Oh, I'm just like on the computer or something.
Yeah, I'm on my computer.
I'm just like, I don't know, doing some work, and she's just in there folding.
She should, as soon as we get to my house, a girl should be like, where is it, Brian?
Where's the laundry?
Where is it?
I shouldn't have to tell her.
She should just go and goddamn do it.
That's what I'm talking about.
You know, she should go and do the damn thing, man.
Oh, my God.
Where is she?
Where does someone exactly?
What is she talking about, man?
This is how California.
Hey, this is how California, this is how Californians speak.
No, it ain't.
That's how we speak in California.
All right.
So, okay.
Look, I think the girl should do laundry.
She should scratch my back.
She should rub my feet.
She should give me massages.
Yeah, that's right.
I said that she should give me a foot massage.
Give me a foot massage.
All of the shit, bro.
I think there's something very loving about that, especially if your man works on his feet.
But if you don't know them, you just On my ass, so maybe she should give me her ass massage instead.
I'm saying, like, I think your husband.
Okay, yeah, that's good.
There's no more.
Well, let me tell you what.
I'll tell you what.
Look, I just want a nice girl.
I get home and I want her to do my laundry.
What's the big deal?
What's the problem?
Just fold them shits.
Show me a little love.
What the fuck?
Has a girl ever done it?
Hey, finishing up your notes over here, darling.
So here, let's see what we're working with.
If you want a girl.
Oh, yeah, wait.
Oh, what?
She got some.
What's she got?
Don't direct that.
What she got on there?
No, it was just a little fuzz.
She got fuzz.
She got cocaine.
What's on there?
No, it was like a lint.
It's fine.
It was titty lint?
Why did you go like that titty lint?
Did you get lint in your titty?
What the fuck?
Hey, do you have fake boobs?
I just realized that.
No, they're real.
Oh, that's bullshit.
I'm wearing two push-up browsers.
Hey, they're about as real as them eye colors.
Tell me that one.
Hey, let me.
Look.
She's not lying.
All right.
If you say so, darling.
All right.
So, going finishing up your notes over there, Maria.
Let's see.
What is it?
Hold on.
Okay.
Oh, so for these girls that want to be the one who works and their man stay home, you're fucked in the head.
You wrote if the man stays home and the woman works, are they both fucked in the head?
Or is it the woman?
The man stays home and the woman works.
Are they both fucked in the head?
Yeah.
Or is it the woman?
No, they both are.
You say it goes against natural instincts and they've been brainwashed by media.
And you're degrading the man by making him be a bitch at home.
That's what you wrote.
You feel it goes against man's natural instinct to provide and lead.
It's not good for anyone in the long run.
Let's see.
Okay, you said that if you want a girl to bow as she greets you coming home and stir your food, the bow video we just watched, you should have enough respect for her to put the toilet seat down and take the trash out.
Oh, yeah, because I heard you talking about it.
If you're at work and it's full, of course, the girly can take it out.
But if you want me to be your bitch, you better act like a man.
Okay.
I don't know.
The toilet seat one.
You know, that is just a bit of a damage.
Tell me what it is.
Girl, tell me what it is.
Oh, well, weren't you raised to be like, oh, you put the toilet seat down for girls.
It's just like a respectful thing to do.
No, whoever needs to use the bathroom puts the toilet seat in whatever state.
That's rude.
Did you have sisters?
And disrespect?
I have a mother and a sister.
Let me tell you what.
And let me say this right now.
Let me say, hold on.
What's that?
You should know this.
That's wrong.
I'm just no.
The thing is, is that whatever state of affair you want the toilet seat to be in, you put that wherever you need it to be.
Now, the only argument I agree with is the best state is you put the toilet seat down.
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That's why.
Not just the toilet seat down.
The cover.
You put the cover because if you take a shit, the cover's not down.
It goes up in the air.
There's particles that land on your eyeball and your mouth.
That's why you can't have your in the particles.
Let's assume in a hypothetical world, if you take a dookie and you don't cover the seat, it doesn't change anything.
And there's no hygienic reason for lowering the toilet seat.
Would y'all agree?
Can I ask y'all, would y'all agree that in that situation, what makes sense is whoever needs to use the bathroom puts it to where they need to be, the toilet seat.
If you live alone as a man, keep it up.
But if you live with a woman, you put it down.
Guys piss all over that.
Girls don't piss all over their toilet seat.
No, if you lift the toilet seat up, if you're taking the toilet.
They have bad aim.
My family has bad aim.
Well, shit.
And if a girl's roommates have bad English seats for the man, you don't fall into it.
You don't sit into the bedroom.
Well, she should goddamn check before she takes a seat then.
I'll tell you what, I think a girl got to make a double check.
Also, look, me personally, she's just going to have her own bathroom.
That works.
Yeah, that's fine.
She's going to be in the guest room.
I don't like to share a bed.
I don't like to share a bedroom.
I literally have trauma from someone leaving the thing up because I was trying to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night and you sat down.
And it was dark.
I almost fell on the toilet.
That's okay.
Look, all I'm saying is it's common etiquette.
I actually, sometimes I just go pee outside.
That's been acceptable.
I like to get some air in the morning.
Same.
When we're at the club, we like to pee on trees.
I'll go piss on the backyard.
But look, ultimately, though, I actually just forgot what I was about to say.
By the accent.
Something about toilets.
Toilet seats.
Pee and I came out.
No, you did.
You didn't want to share the bedroom though.
Oh, sleepy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I believe I want to, maybe on like Valentine's Day anniversary, the woman can sleep in my bed.
Otherwise, I like to put her in the guest room.
And then she has her own bathroom, you know?
Are you gay?
So like, is your body?
I'm gay for you, but no, I'm not gay.
I'm actually gay for Brooklyn.
Honestly, I could almost like.
I don't know what that means.
Are you saying, Brooklyn, your girlfriend just said you had the penis?
No, because he's saying she's just very young.
Hey, Brooklyn, you don't let her talk to you like that, bro.
No, she's right.
She says you have a dick.
No, I'm saying that's confusing that you're saying you're gay for me.
Well, you'll have to work that out amongst yourselves.
What does that mean?
I never know.
But look, I don't know what y'all think about that.
Do you think that's wrong?
No, I mean, what's the reason?
Is there a reason?
Well, my sleep.
You can't sleep with that.
Well, I can, but the sleep quality is better if I'm sleeping alone.
I hear that.
You know, and it's like, I need, I got a job to do, and I can't do that job as effectively if I don't get good sleep.
So she can go in the guest room, and it's very nice in there.
And she's got her own.
What's that?
You're doing an accent.
Oh, you just noticed?
No, I didn't.
No, but why isn't it stopping?
Why should it end?
Shit, I don't know.
I could do a different one.
We're going to do an Indian accent.
It's kind of hard to be honest.
It's so easy.
Yeah, I can't do Indian.
I could do what are our options?
Yeah, what are her options?
I've got British.
Oh, can you do Australian?
New Jersey.
I've got kind of New York.
Do New York.
That's where my family's from.
That's where your family.
Brooklyn.
That's where your fucking family's from.
Oh, my God.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think what else I could say with like that accent.
I don't know.
I'll try it throughout the course of the rest of the day.
Ireland.
No, I can't do it.
I can kind of do British and some like Australian and Australian is awesome.
So, okay, finishing up finishing you off.
Oh, gosh.
Finishing you off.
No, you're good.
Let's see.
Oh, you're sleeping now.
You said, Brian, you always ask these girls how they can have such high standards than men, but they were four and double F, bro.
Like, if your perfect girl is the richest, hottest woman in the world, you need to be ripped AF.
LOL, you don't deserve that.
What do you bring to the table other than the talk show?
Well, no, so the perfect woman thing comes into.
So I'm trying to think the context usually when we're talking about when I'm talking about the perfect woman, I think that it comes, it's about the bow.
And I asked women, for the perfect man, would you do this?
So I don't think I'm going to get like of the things that I think would make a perfect woman, I don't think I'm going to get a perfect woman, to be clear.
But if somebody asks me, what is the perfect woman, I can describe it.
But just because I can describe what the perfect woman is, doesn't mean that I think I deserve her or I can get her.
Does that make sense?
Yes.
Yeah.
So like, yeah, I would describe the perfect woman as like, in terms of what I like in looks, she's exactly that.
Personality, exactly that, and she's a billionaire.
That woman probably doesn't even exist.
Does not exist.
I hear you.
But I don't think I deserve that.
No.
I mean, if Mackenzie Bezos, she's kind of old, but like, I'll still crack.
I don't even know who that is.
Jeff Bezos.
Ex-wife.
Ex-wife.
What do you think of his current wife?
I do not.
I don't like the plastic.
I don't like plastic surgery on a woman.
I don't like that look.
You can't tell with her.
No, I'm just saying in general.
The lips.
The lips is filler.
I'm talking about like sometimes you can tell facial Botox.
No, but those are fillers.
I'm talking about like bone reconstruction.
You can't tell that shit.
Well, um.
It's done well.
I don't think you should.
Yeah, exactly.
It would be so like slight, you wouldn't even know.
Even if I couldn't tell, I'm not sure if I would like it.
But like, if they don't tell you, you'll never know.
Okay, so they lie to me.
No, it's not lying.
My kids are going to.
It's not lying because they just never told you.
They're going to be fucking Chinese or some shit.
Jeff don't.
Some white girl.
You know what?
I think that is in my notes is there is a difference between transparency and honesty.
Yeah.
And I think that's what she just said.
What's the difference?
What do you mean?
Transparency and honesty, right?
She's like, you're like, oh, well, then, so she's going to be a liar.
It's like, well, no, she just didn't tell you.
Yeah, she should probably tell me.
I think she should disclose.
Why?
Do you have something you want to tell us?
No.
What even would I have?
Do you want to tell us something, Lexington?
Be honest, Lexington.
Yeah.
I don't mind.
I do bone smashing.
You seem like you might.
I don't know.
What are your thoughts on that?
I don't know if it actually even works.
Yeah, I think it's BS.
But.
What is this?
Bone smashing.
I wouldn't recommend.
It's making like little micro people.
Smash their bones to make it grow back stronger.
Maybe it works.
Maybe it doesn't.
But I don't know how much of a variance it would actually create, to be honest.
Let's see.
Finishing up homegirl over here.
I really, you agree with me on most things.
You wonder if some girl hasn't hurt you, me, really bad, and it made you like, lose.
You wrote loose respect for them.
Oh, cool.
Not lose respect.
You get not having respect for the hoes, but for a good girl, you should.
Look, I respect everybody.
Sort of.
No, look, I don't understand the who hurt you thing, though.
Well, maybe I was probably like watching a podcast and was like writing.
Oh, sorry.
I was probably watching a podcast when I wrote that.
And I honestly can't remember what you were saying at the moment.
But it seemed like you were angry at girls.
I mean, there's moments where I get upset on the show.
Sure.
Yeah.
But I don't have inherent animosity towards women.
So, okay.
Some people want to assume that I'm sexist or I'm a misogynist.
I think women are great.
I love women.
You respect them.
Do I respect women?
Well, what do we mean by respect?
Because I think to a degree, respect has to be earned.
But like, would I go out of my way to mistreat a woman just because she's a woman?
No.
I have no inherent animosity towards women.
I think women are great.
I would never say that I hate women.
I would never say I dislike, broadly dislike women.
There are specific women who come on the show who annoy me.
There are women who I disagree with.
I don't like feminists.
But I think women are dope.
Cool.
And I'm not gay, so.
Only gay for Brooklyn.
Learning Languages As Adults00:03:55
Yeah.
I am gay for Brooklyn.
You caught me there.
Super gay for Brooklyn.
But okay.
Talk to your therapist about it, I guess.
Oh my God.
This guy said he was gay for me.
Okay, I really do agree with you on oh, final note for you.
You think some you think some women look better in their 30s.
For instance, you were on hardcore drugs in your 20s, and you're over here looking like a side piece at 34.
That's what you wrote.
Oh, I was 33 at that time.
Oh, you didn't say 33, wouldn't you?
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
Wait, I'm so tired.
What was it?
Oh, yeah.
No, I do think I look better now than when I was in my 20s.
I was looking a little rough.
You look really young.
Really?
Yeah.
Thanks.
You got guns a little bit.
You do have some, wait.
Wait, do it again.
Double.
Double bicep.
Double?
Double bicep.
Bro, damn, she's kind of ripped.
Holy shit.
She's got arms.
Do you lift or what?
I work in a warehouse.
Oh, it's just from the warehouse?
Yes.
Nah, that's bro.
I would take 70 months.
She's got some natty muscles.
No, I don't think that's a good question.
Do you like beat up your boyfriend sometimes?
No.
I thought it was hesitant.
Yeah.
Okay.
Wait, I need to.
We're almost done with the notes.
I need to use the bathroom, though.
So you guys entertain.
Here accents go.
I would be back.
Brooklyn, you do it.
You do your New York accent.
No, let me hear your southern accent.
Oh, I don't know.
I already have my voice is gone.
It's going to be hard for me.
I don't know.
I'm not doing an accent.
Okay, well, talk about something else.
Yeah, that would be great.
What is the hottest accent for a man to have and the least attractive?
Like just.
I love Australian.
I love Australian.
I was going to say Australian.
Yeah, probably.
Australian, British.
But I just honestly prefer normal.
Or like, not normal, but like.
American.
Is it American?
It's American.
Yeah.
Like a German accent or something like that.
Bro.
Scary.
I don't know.
German terrorists.
I don't know.
It's all speak.
Yeah.
I need to keep learning German.
Are you learning German?
I was, and then I gave up.
Unduolingo?
Yeah.
How's your streak?
Probably like 15 days.
Oh, girl.
I learned a little bit.
Yeah.
I can say like basic words.
What?
Meet a German and go to Germany.
Yeah, I want to be so bad.
Guys, we need to think of an interesting topic so he doesn't change.
French accent is pretty nice.
The for real Americans are trying to learn to speak French.
It's like, yeah, it's pretty cute.
Yeah, French is really romantic.
Thank you guys.
Yeah.
I would like let you like do ASMR and like I hope you need to sleep with French.
My teacher is also French and you have like the same accent as her.
It's like comforting.
I love girls.
Yeah.
Sweet.
It's a very like classy accent.
Yeah, and he does.
It just doesn't go away.
I know, but you started learning English at what age?
I learned at school.
But then I really learned when I met my ex-husband.
Okay, so in your bad word.
You're communicating.
I feel like if you have a native language and then you learn a different one, you'll always kind of have that accent if you start learning as an adult.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because Korean was my native tongue, but I went to ESL in elementary school, learned English, and I don't have an accent, but my parents still have their accent, and we've been speaking English for the same amount of time.
Yeah, my sister lives in Australia and she doesn't have an accent anymore.
She has an Australian accent, but she doesn't have a French accent.
Interesting.
Humor And Safety In Dates00:02:48
So, yeah, you're right.
Lexi.
Yes.
You've been on questionable dates.
One guy only ate raw meat and milk.
Oh, yeah.
I told them about this earlier in the back.
And you talked with a lot of look smashers.
Oh, yeah.
I was just basically talking about like Clav and like baby alien.
Oh, okay.
You said it's hard to find a boyfriend, girlfriend that aligns with what you want.
Yeah.
What do you want?
Just like a guy that's not, that doesn't just want to hook up.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's hard.
So, especially where I live now.
No, I mean, I have a type, so I like want black guys.
No, but my first boyfriend was black.
Light-skinned.
He looks like dark features.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you're just a guy who's willing to be your boyfriend?
That's all the type of stuff.
I told you, I only think that 10% of men are attractive.
Okay, so you have the type.
All right.
Going around the table, what do you want?
Humor, safety.
He has to be hot because I.
Yeah.
Brookington.
Brooklyn.
I definitely have to be attractive.
A little closer than mine.
Sorry.
I have to be attractive looks-wise for sure, but I also just like funny, nice, athletic.
Can you tilt your mic up just a bit so it's like towards your face?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
So, wait, attractive and I said nice, funny.
Nice, funny.
Attractive.
I like can have fun with too, and then athletic.
Athletic, okay.
Like fit.
All right.
I'm not gay for you anymore, I guess.
What do you want?
Oh, well, I kind of have it a little bit.
Muscles, someone who's like perceptive of things, like intelligent.
Posture check.
Sorry.
You're good.
Good enough for you.
Perceptive of things.
Intelligent, whatever.
Yeah.
What about you?
I would say hot as well.
Confident, sense of humor.
Ambitious and adventurous.
What do you want?
Someone who is kind, someone who is affectionate, someone who is loyal and trustworthy, and someone who is passionate about most things in life.
Okay.
Regrets About FinDom Work00:14:48
The only other note I have for you, Lexi, you do the Findom stuff.
You're kind of a sex worker.
You've been 18 for six months.
I'll just reiterate, I guess.
I think you should seriously consider stopping the road you're going down.
I think you'll regret it when you're older.
Your husband will not appreciate his wife, and your kids will not appreciate their mother doing that kind of thing.
I disagree.
I think that the right guy won't care.
You don't agree?
I don't agree.
Like, I don't think she's gonna regret it because I like know her situation and she's what's her situation?
Well, I'm not gonna get into like, but I'm just saying it was like good for her to get out and like make money on her own.
And there wasn't many ways ethically at her age.
I mean, there's jobs.
I have a job.
I've had a job since I've been 14.
If I want to go to server before even 18.
Yeah.
Look, I understand that you make good money, and I understand that, you know, financially, in order to move through the world in a comfortable way, money is important.
I understand that.
But at what cost?
I don't think this cost is like that bad.
If it was like, you don't think it's that, I don't think it's that bad.
It's more like it's like a functionality.
It could be worse.
Yeah, it could be worse.
And like, I got out and you know, I'm doing my other stuff.
Who said ethically?
Somebody said, was that you?
I said that.
It's ethical.
No, she's bullying men for money.
I said there's not really her fault, though.
The men.
Okay, I have criticisms of the men too.
I wasn't saying that, though.
I was kidding.
There's not too many dogs that young, that or too many ways to make that much money ethically at this young.
Yeah.
So be a drug dealer.
No, I'm saying.
Go be on FinDom instead of being a drug dealer.
No, but I'm not suggesting to be a drug dealer, but you're suggesting to be a drug dealer.
No, that's not what we said.
If the money is worth it, it's worth doing.
No, I think drug dealing's worse.
It is different.
It is different.
But I don't think you can say it's completely clean either.
I never said that.
Right.
So I think that's the.
But you're saying that I don't think that every man is going to take it.
Or like, yeah, why would I regret it?
My life is so much better now.
What if I were to tell you, like, do you want to date a guy who's virtuous?
What's like the definition of that?
I'll Google it.
I'll always, if somebody wants the definition, I'll always Google it.
Okay, virtue is a habitual and firm disposition to do good acting as a moral excellence or strength of character that aligns with ethical behavior.
I mean, I don't really behavior showing high moral standards.
I don't really care.
Look, if you want to date a guy who's a scammer and you guys are fine with that, I guess.
But I do think, like, do you think your kids would appreciate it?
If I told them my situation, I don't think they would care.
She's really not doing anything.
Would you be fine if your mom started being a sex worker?
Ah, is she?
No, no, no.
I'm just saying, I just know.
I just know someone whose mom did it too.
Was he bullied or she bullied?
Bullied?
No.
You don't think kids get bullied if the 12-year-olds find out that mommy over there is a online prostitute?
It's not online prostitution.
Okay, fine.
A sex worker.
It's not even a sex worker, really.
If she does OnlyFans, she's a sex worker.
Yeah, but I'm not talking.
That's OnlyFans.
I'm talking about FinDong.
Your Instagram could still sexually please men.
Yeah, like guys could still be like, girls' Instagram.
Yeah, if girls are like, okay, if you post bikini pictures on Instagram, does that make you a sex worker?
No, it doesn't.
But why?
So if I'm posting, there's feet pictures on X, does that make me a sex worker?
If the men are being, if you are providing the feet pictures in exchange for money and you know the men are like jacking off to your feet pictures, that is a form of sex work.
But then, okay, if you're, let's say you're streaming, you're doing a stream and your feet aren't it and people are like paying you money.
Does that make you a sex worker?
Are you intentionally?
Is there a moment?
Well, if you're like provocatively putting your feet like in the Like it's in front of the camera in a certain way, and it's like kind of obvious what you're doing.
Okay, but if like you happen to catch a female streamer's foot, that's not sex work.
I don't think, I don't know.
But if you're a cam girl who's like showing off her feet and like the guys are in the chat, like jerking it, like that's different.
Yeah, then that's like kind of sex work.
If you were offered, like, I don't know how much you're making right now, but if you were offered like 50 grand a month for your feet, you wouldn't, you wouldn't do that.
I mean, I don't want to, I'm doing, I'll just say I'm doing better than that, but okay, if you were like really broke, though, would I do it?
That's a good question.
It'd be hard to turn it down.
Yeah, exactly.
First off, I don't think, I don't think there's a $50,000 a month demand for men's feet pictures.
Yeah, but I'm just hypothetically.
And you're saying in this hypothetical, I'm broke or something?
Yeah.
That's interesting.
It's not like your penis.
It's very different than you.
Probably not because it's kind of embarrassing.
I mean, yeah, but people do embarrassing stuff all the time.
This could be considered being embarrassing.
Yeah, look, I mean, some men might do it.
Some men might do it, but my instinct here is to say, no, I wouldn't do it.
It's like easy money.
Sure.
Yeah.
But I think that what I think that there's a higher calling beyond just this gets me a lot of money.
Yeah.
But if I was like dating someone, they were like, hey, can you please stop doing this?
I'd be like, yeah, sure.
I'm not trying to normalize her or anything.
I'm really, I don't think she's going to regret it, like, knowing her.
Yeah.
I mean, if I had a rich family, I would not be doing this.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
If a guy today asked you, like, you fell in love with this guy and he's like, you need to stop doing this in order for us to be together.
Are you in a position that you couldn't?
Well, if he could and would do that.
If he can also like make sure I'm not going to be like, because I'll still work and everything, but I still have rent to pay.
Yeah, okay.
So like he will fund it.
It's not like I'm doing this for fun.
Yeah.
It's like, yay, I love bullying men.
So fun.
Or like the guy, you know, someone else bullying them.
Okay.
Veronica.
Oh, she dipped.
I don't.
Okay.
Chris love.
What's the most you're okay?
So you are an exotic dancer.
That's one of the things you do.
I'm curious about the money that sometimes these people make.
What's the most you've ever made in one night?
I would say $16K.
Okay.
What's the least in one night?
A little closer to the mic?
Closer to the mic?
Mike, mic, oh, the microphone.
Yeah.
Probably like 900.
Those are like.
But still good, I guess, right?
That's not good to me because it's not a good idea.
Well, compared to like other jobs, I guess.
But most from one tip.
I'm not talking about penis, by the way.
I don't.
What?
What?
I don't do that.
No.
The biggest tip.
Not penis.
Oh, the biggest tip?
Yeah.
Would probably be three grand.
He was an old white man.
Just a tip.
Just for a second.
Just a second.
Okay.
Money-wise, not stuff like that.
Okay.
You said Los Angeles has been wild.
You've had a guy try to move into your apartment after meeting you once.
Men trying to be pretend to be wealthy and even fake sugar daddies offering money.
You'd love to talk about how people present a completely different lifestyle online versus who they really are in real life.
Instagram versus reality.
Yeah.
People like to flex and they can't back it up.
Does makeup Count for makeup too.
No?
Because women don't actually look like that.
Some do because they're in Hindustan Natural Beauty is not like drag, like drag queens.
That's a totally different transformation.
Can we pull up your Instagram?
Yeah, but I did do some, but you did what?
You did what?
Photoshop.
Yeah.
Make skin colours.
Yeah, whatever.
The people can assume.
The people can assume.
Okay.
You wrote that you think it would be interesting to discuss financial honesty in dating.
What about that?
For me, I think it should be like if a girl is expecting a guy, you know, if he wants her to quit everything, she should expect him to pay for everything like a lot.
That's why I date women who work at Chick-fil-A.
It's like, you know.
It's like if you want me to give up everything, you're going to have to go way above and beyond.
How much?
Whatever my lifestyle funding at that time.
Is it 400K?
I mean, he can make that.
Is that enough, though, to get you to quit?
To give it, to give to me?
No.
He makes $400K a year.
Is that enough for you to quit your job?
And say you guys are together.
Yeah, that's fine.
No, okay.
Modern gender expectations.
What do you mean?
You wanted to talk about that as a topic?
What do you mean?
I don't remember.
I'll just skip it then.
You said disagreement.
Some dating conversations blame women for having high standards.
When in reality, a lot of people just want basic stability, honesty, and consistency.
You're open to debating that because you think standards and boundaries are often misunderstood in modern dating.
So high standards.
Yeah.
And you wrote, but they really just want basic stability, honesty, and consistency.
Don't you think you have high standards?
Yeah, I do, and that's fine.
But basic stability, $400,000, like, couldn't you have basic stability financially speaking?
Dating a guy in, you're in Vegas, right?
I don't think it's too crazy out there in terms of like prices.
Like $100K, isn't that, wouldn't that be good in Vegas?
When I say good, I mean like you can have house, food, basic stability.
For Vegas, not really.
What's the typical?
Well, maybe as a tourist, right?
But like the rent out there, I don't think it's too bad.
Yeah, but if you want like a good property in a good area, not like on the strip, which is like shooting and like ghetto, you're going to have to pay a lot for a house.
Okay.
But it's definitely less than California.
Okay.
But what if a woman genuinely has unrealistic high standards?
I don't know.
Okay.
Were there any specific disagreements, though, about blaming women for having high standards?
Yeah, I think a lot of men don't get it.
Don't get it.
Do I not get it?
Yeah, you don't.
What do I not get?
I feel like you think some women should live to live a bad life and they should keep that, but some women want to do better in life and better in herself.
Tiffany, can you push the door open on that?
It could be a good goal.
So what if a woman's standard is she'll only date a guy who makes $10 million a year?
Is that realistic or unrealistic?
I mean, it depends where she is.
There's like some cities.
What?
It really depends sometimes.
Tell me which city.
Like Miami, LA, New York.
Do you need to make $10 million a year?
No, not $10 million a year.
I'm saying it's not hard to find those type.
No, so okay.
I sort of see what you're saying.
You're saying in certain cities, there's a higher chance that you're going to encounter very wealthy men.
Yes.
Like Miami, like LA, like Vegas, perhaps.
But even then, New York City, even then, don't you, wouldn't you still say that a woman who wants who will, like, let's say she will not date a guy who makes less than 10 mil, wouldn't you say that that's still unrealistic, high standards?
I mean, if she, if that's, if that's how she thinks, then that's how she thinks.
What if she's fat?
I mean, and ugly.
I don't know.
You're going to ask a fat girl.
She's a bitch and she's fat and she's ugly.
Do you think she's going to get the 10 mil a year man?
If there are some guys who fetishize fat girls, so maybe.
The Venn diagram, the Venn diagram of man who makes $10 million a year and man who like who likes fat women is very, very small.
I know it is slim, but there is a lot of issues.
No pun intended.
It is slim.
It is slim.
Brooklyn, do you have like IBS or something?
What is that?
Are you sick?
I'm sick.
Oh, that's what I said.
Wait, like I woke up today with a really sore throat and a cough.
What about you, Lexi?
I've just had like a summer.
No, but I haven't had any, I haven't had like symptoms.
I just know.
I've got fucking COVID.
I cannot.
You know, guys.
I literally, my voice has just been gone.
I don't feel sick.
Party too, Hardy.
Okay.
Let's see.
What else is there from?
Hold on.
You said.
Wait.
Sugar Daddy Expectations00:04:33
Crazy dating story you have is when a guy approached you saying he wanted to be your sugar daddy and he actually sent you money before you even met how much he sent 2,000.
So you thought, okay, maybe he's serious.
Wait, hold on, wait, wait.
2,000?
Did you fuck?
He really, really liked black girls for some reason.
White guy?
Yeah.
Old white guy.
Yeah.
60.
He was like 54, 55.
How'd you know that?
My wisdom has been colored.
My wisdom and knowledge has been colored by my many varied conversations with women.
I have an intuition for these things, you know?
So was it Bill Maher?
Who's Bill Maher?
You don't know Bill Maher?
He likes black women.
Bill Maher designed it.
Bill Maher?
No, Bill Maher, the guy.
He has a show on HBO called Real Time with Bill Maher.
Okay.
2,000 just to go on a date?
What I don't understand about that.
Hold on.
I'll let you finish the story.
Well, actually, let me say you could just get a prostitute for that much money.
So I don't understand the sugar daddy guys who are like, I'm going to give her money in the hopes that she's not going to play me, which is like 99% of the time with these girls who want money for dates.
Yeah, but they know what they're getting into.
But I genuinely don't understand a guy who would just send a money to a woman $2,000.
That's like chump change to them sometimes.
Like they don't care.
That's like spending money on a soda or like.
I don't know.
I think that how rich do you have to be for 2,000 to just give somebody like for that to be nothing like I make good money.
Maybe I'm fucking maybe I'm fucking cheap.
I don't know.
I make good money.
I don't even want to give somebody 20 bucks, you know.
I wouldn't give a girl 20 bucks for, I mean, I don't like that vibe to begin with, but I wouldn't give a girl 20 bucks to go on a date.
The fuck would I pay a girl for?
She should be paying me if anything.
She should pay me.
Brooklyn, get your fucking wallet.
It's about being with a black girl.
What's that?
Like I told you he was.
Okay, he had a fetish for black women.
All right.
So I just don't understand.
It's like, if you're gonna trick, if you're gonna trick, if you're gonna spend money on a woman at that level, you would agree like you could get a prostitute in Vegas for 2K, right?
No, those prostitutes are like $60.
Oh, it's cheaper, right?
Yeah, you could get a cheap, you could get a cheap hoe.
Cheap.
Well, yeah.
But you do agree that there's like, there's higher tier escorts, right?
I mean, it's not really escorting if you're not doing anything.
If a man wants to send you money and he likes you.
No, I'm not saying you're escorting, but you would say, like, yeah, there's cheap prostitutes, but there's also like expensive prostitutes that are higher quality, whatever the fuck that means.
They're still a hoe, but I guess they're hotter maybe, or they don't fuck as much.
I just know a lot of the girls down here in Vegas are very, very cheap.
Anyways, okay.
But when you finally went on a date and afterward, you jokingly, oh, that doesn't work.
You jokingly told him you expected a $10,000 gift if he wanted to keep seeing you.
He ghosted you.
Yeah.
You overplayed your hand.
You played too much.
Overplayed.
Yeah, but I don't want to.
So if he was like, I'll pay you another 2K, you wouldn't have taken it.
I mean.
I think you should give me 2K right now.
I think reverse simp, the reverse, reverse, you know, you don't understand these guys.
Yeah, I don't understand these guys.
If he wants to fetish and want to keep talking to me, that's going to be at least 5K.
I'm not going to waste my time talking to old man every day without it.
I just don't understand these dudes who trick like that.
Like, why give women so much money in the hopes of betting them when you can just get a prostitute for just as much or less?
Like, aren't they like a couple hundred bucks, these prostitutes?
French Women And Infidelity00:07:07
I don't know.
I wouldn't know.
I don't know.
I just don't dating.
Let's see.
You said your hot take on dating.
Your hot take on modern dating is that a lot of relationships are transactional.
Some people exchange time, attention, or emotional support for lifestyle or stability.
Sugar dating just makes those expectations more upfront.
I don't think I couldn't do that.
I couldn't do that.
The woman has to just have genuine desire.
Otherwise, it's just tricking.
It's tricking.
I mean, not if you're looking for love.
If you're just like just do that, you're just doing that.
There's no problem with it.
You mean if the guy, it's more acceptable for the guy to trick if he's just trying to hit?
I guess.
Yeah.
Well, I'm not interested in just hitting.
So.
That's what I'm saying.
If you're in a relationship, I don't expect a guy to like be paying me every time and stuff.
Okay.
We have Letitia, Letitia, Letitia, Letitia, Letitia.
A Sebienza?
Ebenezer.
Tu cones d'enver le danier dinosaur.
Tu connet?
A se biança?
Tré bien, ébien.
Donc.
You say that you're more mature, more mature than you can imagine.
What do you mean?
I'm more mature than him.
You wrote that.
You're more mature, more mature than you can imagine.
Out of context, but yeah, I can.
It might be, it's probably out of context, but yeah, yeah, it's completely.
I'm probably out of context.
Okay.
But I'm definitely more mature than I was.
And I keep growing.
You wrote that you have a very interesting view on dating and always argue even the nature of it, especially as a French.
By the way, I was born in France.
Yeah.
Do you know that?
I know that.
You French people are giving us a bad rap.
I know.
Because you Americans don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
No, the French.
Oh my God.
I feel like the French.
Look, there's good French women.
There's good French men.
I mean, my dad's French, but like.
Just.
I don't know what.
The origin of it, there is no translation to say dating.
Les Français, les filles, les filles français cheat a lot.
I think it is known.
C'est conné.
C'est conné le fie français.
Como tu di cheat en français.
Trompes?
Trompe.
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
I feel like these French women kind of be a little more infidelitis.
Is that a fucking word?
I just made that shit up.
Infidelitis.
Sommer infidel.
Infidel.
Fucking infidels.
I don't think.
I'm just going to speak English here because I think better English.
Vitas.
Vitasse.
But I just think that our first of all, dating doesn't have a translation.
So it's like every time I have been asking people since I am in America, what is dating?
I never had the same answer.
So I'm like, okay, this is very confusing.
You can date for before you even kiss, and then you can date for 40 years and get married and be married.
So it's like, well, that doesn't make any sense.
And then, as far as cheating goes, I think we have a very more open mind as far as that goes.
But to say that French women are cheating more than American women, I would be way far from that.
That's fair.
Look, I don't know the statistics, but it seems like the approach to romance in France seems a little bit different.
It seems like women are French women can be a bit more assertive.
They're a little more bossy.
Passionate.
French women.
It's passion and desire, dude.
French women are a little more.
I get the impression French women are much more feminist than their other European counterparts or their American counterparts, I guess.
They're more bossy.
French women are bossier.
They're a bit more dominant, I think, is a good word.
But we are intense and fiery and explosive.
Yes, we can be.
I'm not in the language of love, romance.
Yeah, we are.
Like, yeah, that's true.
You wrote that you used to love flirting, abusing your woman power.
Yeah.
What is abusing your woman power?
The pussy power?
You abuse the pussy power?
Yeah.
You abuse the pussy power?
Yeah.
Did you who's who here has abused the pussy power?
You abused the pussy power on your boyfriend?
You're like maybe before.
Yeah.
Have you abused the pussy power?
Brooklyn?
No.
You abuse the pussy power?
I don't know what that means.
You abuse the pussy power.
Lexington?
Did you abuse the pussy power?
No.
I can't help it.
Aw, flirt.
In my opinion, it's like I got out of situations that if I would have been a man, I would have not get out of.
Or like, yeah, like I was very seducary seductive.
How do you feel?
I don't think so.
No, I said she looks like a privilege.
But you feel like you abused that privilege?
It's not a privilege.
Like, I feel like I have been in situation where I could have been forgiven better because I was a woman.
I got sometimes pulled over, and if I would have been a man, I would have had my fine.
Like, I also was way more seductive and be dangerous and cold dangerous because I.
But, like, in the situation, let's say you get pulled over, are you, like, starting to cry even though you're actually not?
and i am the opposite of that i am like super authentic and vulnerable and it's just because i am like so you're just saying you're aware that there is like a there are literally but But it's like, wait, yeah, when you go out of your car, I used to live in a van, and when I come out of my van and the cop is like checking me out from top to bottom three times, I'm like, yeah, well, maybe I'm not going to be.
Tiffany, really?
Why would you press that, Tiffany?
She's in the middle of her fucking story, Tiffany.
That's so rude, Tiffany.
That's even ruder to blame someone else for your own shit.
I didn't do anything.
That was Tiffany.
I don't trust her.
She's the misogynist.
At least I want it, Brian.
I did not do anything.
Whatever.
Yeah, exactly.
You wrote, you wrote, I don't know what abusing the woman power is, but I kind of get it.
You said after your last long relationship, you did a huge work on yourself, and now you have switched 360.
Yeah.
360?
Yeah.
So you 360 means that you're back to the same.
It's the same.
No, because I think it's like a complete overview.
It's not a circle.
Yeah, it's full circle.
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Like in many ways, it's full circle.
It's like I'm on the open.
Like I'm opening a new circle, even.
It's not even 360.
It's like I am completely different.
I do think it's 180, to be fair.
Because it's not an opposite.
It's a completely different point of view.
It's a complete, like, I wouldn't even have thought about what I am right now before.
You said your views and attitudes towards men did a 360.
180, 360, whatever you want.
You realized how addicted to men and sex you were, and now you're building yourself to look like the one you are waiting for and believe in your little girl's dream again and do everything to make it happen.
Okay.
What do you want to know about that?
When you say you're addicted to men and sex, when you're a sex addict?
Yeah.
I mean, when you can't stop having it and when you can't stop like spend time without it.
One guy or with multiple men?
Men in general.
Like I just, after my first, my husband, my ex-husband, I just didn't want, because I was in a new town and I didn't want a reputation.
I was like, let's be cautious about it.
And then I quickly realized that I was very, I needed it.
I wanted it.
And so I just tried to limit myself, but I and work on like, why is that?
What attachment do I have?
What, like, all of that.
And then lately, like, after my last relation, long relationship, I tried to go completely obstinate.
And after two years, I saw that, yeah, and I told myself I will only be with the men that I will keep for the rest of my life.
And then, no, I met a guy and then he was cute.
And we had a good time and I had sex with him.
And I was like, god damn it.
And I knew he was not the one.
So I was like, this is truly an addiction.
That shit.
Like, it's hard.
And now I'm not going there anymore.
Like, I really want to be out of it.
If that makes sense.
You're a feng shui consultant?
How's the feng shui of the feng shui is bad in here?
Yeah, but you can pay me for that.
I can give you a consultation.
But I'm not doing it for free.
Yeah.
Would you put like plants in here or something?
You'd probably do some plants or maybe you don't have to.
Okay.
But don't, yeah, I'm not going to.
Well, I don't know.
Have you ever heard feng shui the podcast studio?
I feel like, look, maybe stay in your wheelhouse.
Like, maybe just stick to the residential.
Leave the podcast feng shui to me.
I don't think she offered.
Yeah.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
I don't want to work for you, dude, at all.
Like, no, like, I'm sticking to what I want.
And, like, if I want to do business and podcast, like, wait, what?
Give me one principle of feng shui.
What do you mean?
Like, what is how would you, what is feng shui?
Feng shui means out of placement.
Yeah, what does that mean?
I'm going to maximize energy flowing through this.
So, yeah, the whole point is.
Hey, these two dolls here, is the feng shui good with the two?
I am not answering this question.
You need to pay me $150 for a consultation.
Hey, if somebody wants to talk to me, I charge them $950 a night.
I already came here for free, so I'm not only also giving up advice for free.
I should be charging y'all.
I should be charging y'all.
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Yeah.
Well, you're going to.
I've been giving you so much dating advice this entire night.
This girl.
Wait, what?
My dating advice is the best dating advice.
Look, if you guys want to just...
I'm glad I love sarcasm.
If you guys want to just keep just going down your path of doom and destruction and ruination, ruination, you want to go to damn nation, I'm telling you, you could do what you're doing and follow that path, or you can listen to Brian.
You really should be a cult leader.
Yeah, I think you should.
Yeah.
You have one follower here already.
Who?
Brooklyn?
What about you, Julia?
I think you're going to...
Hell, what, no.
Oh, no.
I have considered starting a sex cult.
What?
I'm considering that.
It's not surprising.
Oh, my God.
But that's a 40-year-old virgin leading a sex cult.
Yeah.
I wonder if I could actually start a cult.
You probably could.
Probably.
You definitely.
Oh, you have enough photo of it.
With your fan.
Like, wouldn't it.
I don't know.
If there's any women who are down to join my sex cult, you can know.
Wait, what do you do at the coal?
Huh?
What do you do at the cult?
So I take care of people.
I take care.
All your money is mine for me to take care of.
And you, we're going to pump out so many kids and we're going to homeschool them.
And we're going to have warrior sons and awesome daughters.
And dope fucking daughters.
And we're going to have a fucking farm and shit.
And we're going to be self-sustaining.
Self-sustaining.
We're going to be fucking off the grid.
And it's going to be dope.
And there's going to be.
It's going to be dope.
Well, that sounds like a nice life, but no.
And I enlighten people.
You will be enlightened.
You will find Nirvana.
You will find Buddha.
You will find Zen.
All that shit.
Cool.
Yeah.
Good talk.
Okay.
Back to your notes, though, Letitia.
Letitia?
Letitia.
Letitia, you said you have some sad death.
So you dated.
Okay.
Some happy, some funny things.
My boyfriend missed away.
Hidden in secret.
What is some hidden in secret?
What's this?
Some hidden and secret.
You wrote hidden and secret dating stories.
Some true love, some random casual or public sex.
You fucked on the bus?
No.
And like that's part of where I'm really happy that we didn't have phone, but to start with the first one that you say the hidden and secret is just more like some relationships that shouldn't get exposed.
Okay.
Um and yeah, I that was they were my favorite.
Okay.
I mean not my favorite, I just had no respect, I don't think, at that point.
Or like I was liking self-respect at that point.
And my mom was doing the same, so in some ways I might have had a representation of it.
Okay.
Um what was the other one?
What you wrote, hold on, I'll skip those.
From devouring, you said from devouring men in your 20s and 30s to now every day aligning with the one.
What is the one?
What do you mean by devouring men in your 20s and 30s?
Be quick, please.
Just having a lot of men and like not having like boundaries towards it.
Yeah.
So even with like two men in the same night that I didn't know that.
You said that you were a sex in a men addict and now you're being already devoted and committed to a man you don't even know yet.
Yeah.
What does that mean?
So you're you're committed and devoted to a man.
Do you know who the man is?
No.
Oh, so it's a random man out there and you're it's the man that I like, yeah, that I want to align with, like the man that I am working hard for and like on myself because I am yeah, finding my self-love, my self-respect, my self-esteem, all of that, so I can match that because clearly so far I wasn't matching that and I had only right so you're devoted.
But so you're already devoted and committed to your future man, but you don't know who the specific man is, but he's out there.
Yeah, because I just don't want anybody to like I had to stop having sex to understand first of all that I was an addict to it.
Now I am like, okay, I think I've dealt with my addiction.
I feel better and I don't need it anymore whatsoever.
And now it's even more magical to think that I am not like, I don't date.
I feel I know it's gonna be organic when we're gonna meet.
And I believe in that dream that my five years old of my prince charming taking me away, except that now he's not gonna take me away.
I'm just gonna be alongside with him.
In your 20s, you're partying a lot involving alcohol, drugs, and sex.
Yeah.
What drugs?
I would say cocaine, like cocaine and ecstasy and MGMA, you will call that here, maybe.
You were in a long-term relationship from 20 to 23.
You cheated on him and hated that feeling so bad.
You decided to work on yourself and not do it again.
After a horrible breakup, you started a cycle of having sex all the time.
Thinking if you give men sex, they will be your friends.
Kind of how you were raised.
After a while, many girlfriends telling you it was bullshit.
You realized it was your mom's behavior, not yours.
Yeah.
So was your mom like when you were growing up, were there men coming in and out of the house?
Yeah, kind of.
Like they were not.
That was more my mom going somewhere.
She would go out with strangers.
And my mom, when I was like about 20 years old, we had an experience together and it was pretty traumatic to me.
I was like, what the fuck?
What?
A threesome?
What?
You had a threesome with your mom?
No, we had like she was having her own experience and the next day I was like, what happened?
And she said, oh, I can have sex with a man the same way I will shake their hand.
And so that was kind of traumatic to me.
Like, not traumatic, but just that was her behavior, not mine.
And that's who she was with men.
And that's why that's how I got raised in some way.
And like no respect, no boundaries, no respect, no like being a like, no definition of what a woman is, what a woman should be for a man, etc., etc.
Okay, so you ended up dating another guy down the road, you said it was toxic.
You got pregnant with him?
My last long-term relationship, yeah.
You said it was toxic, though, so you need to get out.
You got out and you lost the baby.
So, basically, yeah, we were not in a good position.
And then I got pregnant and I was like, oh my God, I can't have that relationship anymore.
So I broke up with him.
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It was just a huge wake-up call.
And then I went to the doctor and the baby was gone already.
So I didn't have to take a decision.
And you said it was a blessing that you had the miscarriage, I guess.
Yes.
Okay.
You.
Yeah, because it just woke me up and I could have the chance to get out of that toxic relationship.
And then afterwards, you said you, like a friend of a friend, you had the best love story ever in 10 days.
Then he left and you told yourself that you wanted to see the same beauty.
You saw in his eyes in yours.
It's been three years.
So is your love that guy or is it somebody else?
No, that guy just like chemistry, some things that we haven't talked at all tonight, which was when she was saying it's superficial.
I kind of agree with Lindsay, but it's just, yeah, we had such a chemistry that for the first time I realized what was like a relationship that was easy, loving, caring.
Like the whole thing was just absolutely wonderful.
Like I lived a dream for 10 days.
So it was good.
Oh, that was, yeah.
Okay.
Like.
You have plenty of dating stories, like the smallest penis on earth, but it was good.
Yeah.
That was my first American in New Zealand.
Oh my god.
It was good sex or whatever.
What's up?
It was good sex.
Yeah.
It was impressively very, very good.
I don't think with your hand, Shows.
Oh my God.
Like, I don't know.
What?
Skinny too?
What?
That's skinny too?
Like, how was the girl?
Because he was extremely.
Like, it's just a matter of like.
Yeah, you're missing something, but he was.
He was good at everything else.
You said, not to say, like the biggest penis that you had sex with on drugs in front of your friends without knowing it.
Oh, my God.
Then you were going to have sex again with him a couple years later, but you couldn't because you didn't want to take drugs anymore because it was too big.
And you had to be on drugs.
I mean, the first night, I was like, the first night, and yes, it was in front of my friend and I heard about it.
Or like, at least I watched Eco about it.
20 years later.
Okay.
Yeah, because it was like a bathroom where you don't have the top of the walls, are not finished.
Or like, okay, so they were watching.
So they were all watching.
And then, yes, I was on MDMA that night.
Oh.
And then.
Okay.
And then two years later, when we meet again and he invited me over, and I was like, yeah, why not?
It was fun the first time.
And then he asked me for drugs.
And I said, You said that you understand sex workers.
And if you had OnlyFans available in your 20s and you're 42, you would be a millionaire.
Wow.
Unfortunately, you didn't, so you still have your dignity.
Yeah.
But you would have done it if it existed 20 years ago or whatever.
I am pretty sure I would have.
Yeah.
And for like Elle.
You would have?
Oh, no.
Okay.
I mean, I can't be sure, but yeah.
You said you have, now you have high standards and boundaries.
You went from being a sex addict to being committed to someone you don't know yet.
It feels so powerful and magical to wait to be touched by the one.
If it is the one, are you going to wait to have sex with him or will you just fuck right away?
Oh no, I'm going to fucking wait.
How long?
I don't know.
It's going to depend on the situation.
I have no idea.
Six months.
Yeah, but I wouldn't say six months.
I mean, unless we see each other three times in six months.
But yeah, I'm going to definitely wait and not have sex on the front.
Like that's a raw deal for a guy.
That's what it's a raw deal for a guy.
What does it mean?
Like, I don't know.
Look, people can change and people can change their standards.
And obviously, just to be clear, like, I don't know, sometimes people will try to make an assumption on this.
Obviously, like this is within the confines of like consent or whatever.
I think it's a super raw deal.
Like, a girl who, like, let's say a month ago, she fucked a guy within two hours of meeting, and then she meets you and she's like, oh my God, I really like you.
I think you're the one.
You could be my future boyfriend.
And she makes you wait three months.
That's so fucked.
That's such bullshit.
You might think that, and that's all on your, you know, your entitlement of your opinion.
But first of all, all my period where I had a lot of sex was 20 years ago.
Like, 20 years ago.
Well, what about the guy who the best 10 days ever?
Did you fuck him?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, but like that period where I had no respect, no boundaries, no self-awareness, nothing of that.
But you're saying, here's this guy who you say he's going to be your future, you're waiting for him.
And then the guy who is going to be your maybe your husband or your life partner, that motherfucker, he got to wait three months to hit.
But all those guys in your 20s who didn't matter, who were just fun, who were fuckboys, who were dicks, who were jerks, who were assholes, who treated you poorly, they got to fuck right away.
Doesn't that seem backwards?
Shouldn't it be like, nah, the jerks, the bad boys, the assholes don't get pussy, and the good guy gets the pussy.
Shouldn't that be you know what I mean, chat?
No?
They were assholes, but I was an asshole too.
And I had absolutely no self-respect whatsoever.
Today I do.
And it's like, well, if you don't feel that it's worth the wait, get the hell out of my life.
You don't deserve to be with me.
Like, if you don't want to wait a minute, like, for someone who, like, I haven't been touched for, you know, years before.
It's going to be years because it's not going to happen tomorrow.
So it's like, if you don't want to wait, don't wait.
Go ahead.
Like, well, we have, look, we have Brooklyn's notes and then we're done with the notes and then we have the rapid fires.
I'm going to miss my flight.
Wait, are you flying from Santa Barbara?
Yeah.
You're not going to miss your flight.
When's your flight?
It's two hours longer.
It's at four calls.
No, it's not.
Yes, it is.
It's insane now.
Your flight is at.
Didn't you send it?
It's at like five or six a.m.
Excuse me.
I'm starting at like 4:30.
You always have to be early.
I have to go back to my hotel and you say goodbye.
Okay, well, we're going to wrap soon.
We have like maybe 20 minutes or some shit.
We're almost done.
We're almost there.
We're at the tail end here.
Stick with me, guys.
Okay, so finishing this off super quick.
Look, really quick on this topic.
Imagine if a guy said this.
All those girls that I just wanted to use for sex, and I didn't have any intention of being in a long-term relationship with any of those girls.
I want to be in a long-term relationship with you.
Those girls I just wanted to fuck and I didn't care about.
I bought them gifts.
I paid for dates.
I took them on vacations.
I was chivalrous.
I did all these things.
But for you, because I want to hold off on those things.
I want to things to be serious first before I do those things.
You would look at the guy and be like, are you fucking kidding me?
You're telling me that I'm the girlfriend material, but I got to go 50-50.
You're not going to take me on trips, but you can afford it with those other girls.
You're not going to get me gifts, but you got all those girls who you claim didn't matter and you're going to do all that for them.
You women would be like, that sounds backwards, doesn't it?
Yeah.
So it's like, it sounds backwards to me when women say, well, you know, I got banged out at a frat party.
I fucked a dude in the bathroom at a nightclub.
I'm not saying specifically that's what you did.
I fucked multiple men, like the first date, the second date, the third date.
But the guy who's going, I'm going to be with forever and who's going to be my boyfriend, he can wait for pussy.
I'm going to make him wait for pussy.
No, I need to know him.
Like, I don't know the guy.
Like, yeah, of course I'm going to like.
Look, you can do it.
Before I didn't care, I could search your dick before I would learn your name.
That's true.
Today it's like, no, it doesn't seem right to me.
And I'm like, well, how did I do that?
Like, I don't want to do that anymore.
I totally get it.
Just because you continue to bad, say, say you're going to categorize that as a bad thing.
But I don't know.
I don't know.
It's like a, it is a complicated, because on one hand, it's like, okay, well, let's say somebody did heroin, right?
You did heroin.
You've also done party drugs.
Because you used to do party drugs or used to do heroin, are you then obliged and obligated to keep doing heroin because you used to do it?
No, of course not.
So like, I understand that.
But from the male perspective, it's like a man touch my skin.
It's not fair.
He's going to be the first.
Like, I don't know.
That's fine.
That's fine.
But I don't know.
It's like.
And look, if a girl, if a girl has waited, let's say she's been celibate for four years and she used to have a past.
That's a little different.
It's a little different.
It's still kind of fucked up.
It's a little bit unfair, but it's a bit different.
Now, if a girl, I find out, there's this great Reddit thread where a girl, oh, here's, oh, this is so good.
You guys are going to love this.
I'll try to recapsulate it as best as I can.
A girl posted on Reddit that she got dumped by her boyfriend.
And here's why.
She told her boyfriend that she wanted to wait with him because she wanted it to be special.
And they had been dating for a couple months.
And he finds out, I'm trying to remember if she revealed it to him or whatever, but she said she felt guilty because while they were dating and she was waiting and they were waiting to have sex, she had a friends with benefits who she was fucking.
Now they weren't exclusive though, because she was saying, well, we weren't exclusive yet, but I was making him wait.
All the while she was fucking her friends with benefits.
Now that's kind of where the angle I'm coming from, where it's like, you claim to have a standard, but you don't actually, because you're, if the standard is, in order for you to have sex with me, I need it to be a solid relationship.
Meanwhile, you're fucking a guy, you're having a friends with benefits, and you're just fucking him and he's not your boyfriend.
It's like that.
Or it could be a month ago, say I match with a girl on a dating app.
Say I match with a girl on Hinge and a month ago, she tells me, oh yeah, I fucked a guy on Hinge like first date.
And then she goes on a date with me and she's like, oh, well, I want to wait three months.
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Really?
Like, okay.
I'm probably, I feel like that's a raw deal and I'm probably going to feel a type of way.
I probably go find a different girl.
I don't know.
Anyways, that's my position.
Brooklyn, you went on a date with a guy that had a tattoo initial and you asked him whose initial it was and he said it was his sister's yikes.
Ended up finding out it was his girlfriend's.
Fucking.
How did you meet him dating at?
No, my community college.
Oh, like he approached you after class?
I probably don't want crazy dates because I'm still like so young.
But like, yeah, he approached me after class, and then we would just like, we hung out probably a few times, and then he would like say he wanted me to be his girlfriend, and then that one time I realized he had like the tattoo or whatever.
His ex-girlfriend or his current girlfriend?
His current girlfriend.
So, like, that's just the craziest thing that's happened to me.
And then, because there's like an app.
Did you smash him?
Did you smash him?
No.
Only my ex-boyfriend.
Only the one.
You were on the T-App?
No, he was on the T-App.
Well, but I was going on it.
And then I saw him.
And everyone in the comments were saying he has a girlfriend.
And then a lot of people were saying they were going on dates with him.
And then it was just this thing, but it was just kind of, yeah.
That T-app's fucked up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We all try to tell her, too.
She just didn't care.
Now, your friend does some sketchy stuff, like the FinDum stuff.
Do you do anything like that?
No.
Okay.
All right.
That's it for the for that.
We have the rapid fire questions.
Then I'm getting you guys out of here, Pronto Tanto.
And then we're going to blast through these quick.
Quick, quick, quick.
Okay.
Let's see.
Do you guys think I'm a misogynist?
No.
No.
But you say misogynistic things to make a point.
That is so not true.
What did I say?
Okay, fine.
What did I say that was misogynistic?
Gosh, I mean, I can't pull it off the top of my head just.
Just one thing.
One thing.
I don't fucking know.
Oh.
Women should bow.
Women should bow.
Men should pay for first aids.
Does that mean a woman's sexist?
No.
Does it mean she's a misandrist?
No.
So wait.
If you can say men should pay for first aids and that's not misandrist, then how could me saying a woman should bow, how would that be misogynistic?
I don't, I mean, I don't believe men should always pay on the first date, just so you know.
Okay, but you do acknowledge, would you acknowledge that the women who do say it, are they misandrist?
I don't think saying that is I'm they're likely misandrist, but that's not a misandrist thing to say.
Wait, they're likely misandrist?
I mean, no.
A woman could want a guy to pay for the first date and not hate men.
That's true.
Right.
I want women to bow.
I don't hate women.
Okay, but you say things that would imply you are a misogynist.
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What?
Like what?
Like what?
Like, people would assume you're a misogynist based off of some of the things you say.
Okay, they might assume it.
Are they correct?
No, I said you're not a misogynist.
Oh, okay, but they're not.
I just say you say things that exist.
Yes.
Okay.
Well, hey, I mean, that might be a good thing.
And you say it to make points, and I get that.
Fair enough.
Okay.
Do you believe in male privilege?
No.
White privilege.
Yes.
Is there white privilege?
Yes.
Can black people be racist towards white people?
Yes.
Anyways could be racist.
Closer to Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.
Any race could be racist towards each other.
Okay.
Do you think in terms of looks, do you think you're below average, average, or above average?
Above.
Average.
Average.
Above.
Do you think you're beautiful?
That's what my parents tell me.
Yes.
I think so.
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
let's see here um uh we hit a lot of these Okay, rapid fire.
Going around the table, you can't repeat.
Name three countries besides the USA.
Zimbabwe.
China.
France.
Perfect.
Tiffany, two more water.
One more water, please.
Go ahead.
China.
China.
Wait, no, you can't repeat.
You can't repeat.
She did say China.
Oh, I did.
Thief.
I'm so sorry.
Thank you.
I can name like 50.
Peru, Dominican Republic, Haiti.
Okay, go ahead.
Italy, Greece, Spain.
I was going to say two of those.
Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Portugal, Morocco, Egypt, Korea, India, Chile.
Going this way, how many continents are there?
I don't know.
Seven.
Oh, sorry.
Brooklyn.
I'm sorry.
I'm tired.
Face the wall.
You're on the timeout.
Face the wall.
Think about what you did, Brooklyn.
Stand up.
Brooklyn, stand up.
Face the wall.
Okay, there's another punishment.
Hold on.
Oh, my goodness.
Put this on for five minutes.
Put that on for five minutes, Brook.
Brooklyn.
Actually, I'll let you do it for 30 seconds.
Put it on.
Okay, though.
Homegirl, spin the helicopter on top.
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
Here, just put it on the ground next to you.
It's fucked up.
Yeah.
Okay.
How many continents are there?
You said you don't know?
Okay, Brooklyn saved you, though.
Friggin' Brooklyn.
God damn, Brooklyn.
Name one continent.
Can't repeat it.
Asia.
Africa.
Australia.
Europe.
To pass.
Come on.
Come on.
Continent.
Continent.
Zimbabwe.
No.
That is a country.
That's a country.
India.
No, it's a country.
I was in English class.
I didn't really take.
No, this is geography.
No, I know, but in school, I was in English class.
You didn't have to take geography?
Can you guys just repeat your continents again so she can have a reference?
Asia.
Africa.
Australia.
Europe.
So you have three more possible.
Nobody help.
Nobody help.
I really don't know.
Okay.
Can I give you a hint?
Can I give you a hint?
What continent are we on?
United States of America.
No.
That is a country.
I'm going to stop talking because everyone's going to think I'm dumb.
What?
No, you are so smart.
What continent are we on?
What land?
The continent.
Okay, maybe this helps.
What is the continent below our continent?
I don't know, the Pacific Ocean.
What is the continent that Brazil is on?
I don't know.
Okay.
Did somebody say the icy one?
Iceland?
I said that.
Oh, you said that one?
I was trying to know.
I was trying to give her a hint.
Oh, yeah.
I said South Pole or something.
I said think snow.
Asia.
Asia.
Africa.
Australia.
Europe.
What's the icy continent?
Where the south or the north pole is.
What's the ice continent?
Polar bears.
The lion.
North Pole.
I don't fucking know.
Chris Love.
I don't know.
Is that your legal name?
Yes, that's my government name.
Chris Love.
Sea Love.
Can I call you C Love?
Sea Love.
Can I call you?
Can I call you.
Just call me Barbie.
Wait.
Did we do okay?
I don't know.
Give us a continent.
Antarctica.
Antarctica.
Okay, somebody say the Brooklyn, what's the other one?
North America, South America.
No, I didn't.
I wanted you to leave one.
I wanted you to leave one for our girl here.
South America.
Okay.
There is one.
Here, for you.
I'm going to pick on you, okay?
Chris Love.
What two countries border the USA?
Mexico.
Into the mic.
Closer, closer.
And then Mexico.
That's one.
Maybe.
What?
It is.
And then the other state we hate.
I don't know.
What's the other country?
Russia?
Yes.
Guess one more time.
It's not Russia.
Ukraine.
What continent is Ukraine in?
I don't know, but those are like the countries we have beef with.
We don't have beef with Ukraine.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
Just get me on that.
How about this?
Let me give you a hint.
Let me give you a hint.
It's north.
It's the country north of us.
Like I said, I didn't learn that in school.
I was hot developed.
Wait, okay, they love hot.
There you go.
Of course, Drake.
Of course, with Brooklyn.
I would hope.
Okay, how many.
How many states in the USA?
50.
50.
What is the capital of the USA?
Washington or DC.
Name three U.S. states.
You can't repeat.
Arizona, Arkansas, Alabama.
Mike, Texas, North Carolina.
Minnesota.
Florida, Georgia, Hawaii.
Nebraska, Oklahoma, Minnesota.
Oregon, Montana, Wyoming.
Colorado, Illinois, Michigan.
Love it.
Okay.
Name two countries in Europe.
Germany, France.
Two countries.
Well, hey, I started over here to make it easy for you.
Two countries.
In Europe.
Europe.
Euro.
Please give me an up.
Come on.
Come on, boo.
She.
She already said France.
Oh, um.
How about one?
Just similar to France.
Oh, yeah.
Australia or isn't it?
You can't think like white countries.
Yeah.
Germany.
One country.
One country in Europe.
One country that she didn't already say.
So did you say France and Germany?
Okay, one country besides those.
There's like didn't she say France?
She said France and you can't repeat.
I didn't hear.
Okay, besides France and Germany, name one European country.
Can you just get me?
I can't.
I can't, though.
It's not fair.
I didn't grow up speaking English.
But I mean, where'd you grow up?
Haiti.
Your English is pretty good.
What do they speak French Creole or something?
Yeah, say the European.
Say the country in Europe in French Creole.
That's the only thing that's important.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
Can I give you a hint?
Fish and chips.
Pasta.
They eat the pasta.
Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.
Okay, well, yeah, there you go.
Italy, okay.
How many planets are in our solar system?
Eight.
Thirteen.
Thirteen, okay.
Might be thirteen.
Nine.
Nine.
It was nine when I went to school, but I know it's eight now.
What how much?
Guess, guess, quick.
Guess.
I'll just say eight.
Okay.
What planet do we live on?
You sure?
Final?
I had to give you an easy one.
Okay.
What is the capital of California?
Sacramento.
The government building the Pentagon is what shape?
Oh, shit.
Oh, God.
What is the shape?
I know what it looks.
I know what it looks like.
Nobody knows.
A Pentagon?
Are you sure?
No.
Wait.
It's called a Pentagon.
It's Pentagon.
You are correct.
What is the capital of New York State?
Brooklyn?
Yeah.
What is it?
Anybody?
Anybody?
Albany?
It is Albany.
Okay.
What river runs through Egypt?
Fuck it.
No.
Mike.
Mike.
Oh, Nile.
Fuck it.
Hey, Brooklyn, chill out, Brooklyn.
Chill out.
She's just a little bit more.
What country is directly north of Mexico?
Might as well just get me through the whole thing.
I don't Chris love.
You got this.
Chris Love, come on.
What country is directly north of Mexico?
We're not on Jeopardy.
Yes, we are.
Where do we live?
Hey, Brooklyn.
Calm down.
Brooklyn, fucking stand in the corner.
Now you got it.
Stand up.
Face the wall.
Wow.
What country is north of Mexico?
USA.
You are correct.
How many months are in a year?
12.
How many hours in a day?
How many sides does a triangle have?
Okay.
What do you call a shape with five sides?
Battle shapes.
Pentagon.
You sure?
Brooklyn, what is it?
Hexagon.
Hexagon?
That's six.
That is.
Never mind.
Hexagon?
Brooklyn?
Wow.
Hey, what do you call a shape with eight sides?
Octagon.
Wow.
What country gifted the Statue of Liberty to the USA?
You?
Uh-huh.
Hey, nope, stop.
New York.
New York?
Okay, Brooklyn.
It might have been New York.
Brooklyn?
He said what country?
Yeah, what country did you say what country?
Yeah, what country did the gifted this statue of liberty to the U.S.?
France.
What do you think?
She might be wrong.
What do you think?
I don't know.
Guess.
You said what country?
Yeah, what country?
Gifted the what? Statue of Liberty, you know, the lady who holds it.
I thought it was just built in New York.
No, but a country did gift it.
Which country?
Britain?
Britain?
I don't know.
Britain.
Okay.
I don't know.
You're wrong.
Want to take one more guess?
No.
There's so many countries.
It's European.
Germany?
No.
Might have been Germans.
Might have been the Germans.
I am.
No.
It could have been the Dutch.
Maybe it was the Dutch.
Maybe it was the Spanish.
Maybe it was those Italians.
Why'd they gift it?
For the liberty.
What do you call it?
It was Lord Hawk.
Where you're paying back for horrendous things you've done to a generation.
Yeah.
It's for that.
Yeah.
Was I?
Okay, what?
It was the answer.
It is France.
I knew it.
Lexington.
What gas do humans breathe in to survive?
Oxygen.
What gas do plants absorb from the air, Brooklyn?
Carbon dioxide.
What organ pumps blood through your body?
Your heart?
Yeah, there you go.
See, don't be so shy about it.
Yeah, have a little confidence, Chris.
Love.
We love our black queens here on the whatever podcast.
I don't know.
I'm saying stupid shit.
Slay.
Slay queen.
Do you think I would.
Oh, never mind.
No, say it.
You gotta stop doing this.
You always said just the baby.
Do you think I would make it in the streets?
No.
Have you ever seen why boys can't jump?
I'm not sure.
I think I would do okay.
No, you'd never be seen again.
I would do okay.
I would just befriend some homies.
Oh, God.
I would befriend.
Wait, there's more notes from you about something.
About on the other side of the channel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we don't have time.
We don't have time.
Okay, so never mind.
But we'll finish this.
What continent is Brazil in?
She's a smart girl.
South America.
Okay, what continent is Japan then?
Eight.
A?
Eight.
Asian.
A yeah.
How many dimes?
How many dimes make a dollar?
Wait, come on.
You make money.
Yeah, but it's counting like, yeah, how many dimes are in a dollar?
I don't be getting dimes.
You know what's so funny?
She dropped a few dimes downstairs and I picked them up for her.
She goes, I don't need dimes here.
That's hilarious.
That is full circle.
That's 360 dimes.
Sorry, once more.
10.
Okay, what is the capital of France?
She's from it.
Well, yeah, she's going to know, of course.
What's the capital of France?
Counting Dimes To A Dollar00:04:05
Can you not ask me those type of questions, please?
You're just so funny when you answer.
Yeah, but I really don't know.
I'm being serious.
Paris?
Paris.
What is the capital of Japan?
Tokyo.
What?
I told you.
Okay, what country is immediately south of the United States?
We're in the US, what's right beneath us?
What country is right below us?
I don't look at those types of stuff.
I don't really need it.
Have you ever seen a map?
No.
Have you ever looked at that?
Not since high school.
Can I ask you a question?
This one I'm just making up off the top of my head.
Does North America and Europe share a land border?
I don't know.
I just know there's a lot of borders from Mexico.
But like, the United States, not the United States.
Does North America and Europe, do they share, like, are they connected by land at some point?
I don't know.
I feel like you're fucking with me.
Angia.
Could you drive from North America the continent that we're on to Europe?
You say why there?
You sure?
I don't know.
What is 1,000 divided by 10?
Where do you point to?
Chris, love.
Okay, what is it?
100.
If today is Monday, what day is it in three days?
Quick.
Thursday.
Oh, okay.
There you go.
She wants to jump in now.
I thought it was asking you too many questions.
Okay, if you have three quarters, how much money do you have?
Is it in like seven buys?
There we go.
We got to give her a layup every once in a while.
How many?
I got to say this.
I got to make sure I pronounce this.
How many nickels?
Got to be careful with that one.
Make a make a dollar.
What is a nickel?
What is a nickel?
I don't use those.
No, but like the number for a nickel, what is it?
How many cents is a nickel?
Hey.
Well, yeah, sure, that's fine.
I'm dead.
How many cents?
I'm gonna go to your fucking strip club and toss you some nickels.
Okay.
I'm gonna get some fucking pennies.
I'm gonna get some fucking dimes.
I'll get even a half dollar.
I'm gonna get a fucking half dollar.
I'm gonna get the fucking Sacagawea quarter, whatever the fuck it's called.
I'm gonna get, I'm gonna go with the fucking $2 bills to your motherfucking stripes.
You're actually lucky.
I like $2 bills.
How many nickels make a dollar?
Okay, what is a nickel?
What's the number?
How much is a nickel?
You're fine.
I got you.
I'm looking out for you, Boo.
I got you, Boo.
Don't worry.
Don't even trip.
I got you, Boo.
Don't even trip, bro.
Okay.
No, I don't.
Okay, what is a dime?
Wait, tell me what a dime is.
Five?
What?
Whatever.
I know there's like five cents and five cents and okay, so 25 cents is what?
I need 100 pennies.
No, but 25 cents is what?
What coin is that?
It's a quarter.
Okay, a dime is.
Oh boy.
Okay.
50% of 200.
Oh, I think he's asking you.
50% of 200.
How are you going to figure out if your guy's making $400,000 or $20 million?
You got to know the numbers a little bit.
But I know, I know.
That's why you keep getting bamboozled.
guys say they make this much money but they're not because you gotta she only knows how to count in bands okay Okay, five times five.
25.
Math Problems On Air00:13:04
12 divided by 3.
36?
Huh?
What?
Wait.
Wait, 12 divided by 3?
How much?
Did I say 36?
You did say 36.
You're Fox, Brooklyn.
Clip that.
Clip it and chip it, boys.
Send it to her math teacher.
I was thinking of 12 times 3.
Okay, well, 12 divided by 3, then.
15 plus 35.
50.
90 minus 45.
45.
45.
How many branches of U.S. government are there?
Three.
Name one branch of the U.S. government.
Executive.
Well, I'll skip you because you're non-American.
Legislative.
Judicial.
Oh, she saved by the belt.
Okay.
What document begins with We the People?
Oh, I know how I don't memorize that.
Um I don't know.
I don't remember.
Is it Harry Potter?
No.
It's not Harry Potter.
It's um We the People.
It's by Lincoln, right?
Yeah, something like that.
Oh.
Gettysburg address.
Yeah.
Yeah, that one.
Okay.
How many stars on the U.S. flag?
Um, 50.
50.
Okay.
What century are we in?
21st.
Brooklyn?
21st.
Okay.
What galaxy do we live in?
We don't live in Nagaso.
We live on Earth.
Huh?
We live on Earth.
Into the mic?
We live on Earth.
Well, but Earth is in a galaxy.
So what galaxy are we in?
I don't know.
You should ask the aliens.
I think you might be an alien, to be honest.
Has anyone ever told you that?
Yeah, are you a bit of an alien?
Let's see.
Okay, what galaxy do we live in?
Shit, I did not know this one.
The Milky Way.
All right, Brooklyn got her education.
She paid attention to class.
No, she said 36.
No, because I was thinking.
Oh, wow.
Your girl is throwing some shade at you.
I thought you guys were refusing to get a lot of time.
I've had like three hours of sleeping.
That's going to be an awkward car drive back home.
Oh, she's going to be sleeping.
Like, I'm tired.
And I still know most of the stuff.
I know I'm doing this.
How many in one dozen?
12.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
How many months in a decade?
I don't know.
How many months in a decade?
A lot.
Do the math.
It's pretty simple.
Months in a decade.
Hey, Brooklyn.
Stand up.
Brooklyn.
Go to your room, Brooklyn.
Go to your room.
Go to your room.
Go to your culture.
I'm like, yeah, can we just say that?
We're almost done.
Wait, wait, wait.
Stay safe.
We got like 8:30.
I got to get my back.
It's 2:30.
No, you're fine.
You're fine.
Bro, you're only going to be able to do it.
Bro, the Santa Buy.
I got to go get my stuff at the 20 minutes.
Okay, so anyways, no flowers.
Yeah, I do a flower.
Because I collect pins.
How cute.
So that's for you.
Oh, that's so sweet.
Wow, thank you.
Okay, just stay here for 20 minutes.
You're fine.
It's not 20 minutes, Brian.
You said that an hour ago.
I did not say that an hour ago.
I'm being gaslit.
You guys are fucking.
You guys are gaslit.
He doesn't know how to read a clock.
Okay, let me finish.
We're almost done.
I promise we're almost done.
Why did we just say three times?
Bro, it's like 15 minutes for 10 minutes, probably like maybe 20 minutes.
No, no, I promise we're almost done.
We're almost done.
You said five more questions.
You guys were fucking 40 minutes late.
I didn't know it was going to be a good time.
I blame you.
We started the show later.
He's not dating anymore.
Yeah, this is fun.
This is the fun moment.
Hey, you're getting us when we're sleeping.
You know what?
Stop complaining.
Stop complaining.
We're wrapping this up.
Okay.
What year was the U.S. founded?
1776.
What country did the U.S. gain its independence from?
Tiffany, can you get the door?
Was I right?
Yeah.
What country did the U.S. gain its independence from?
I don't know.
Throughout the country.
Germany?
1960?
I don't know.
No, what country?
What country?
Yeah, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.
I know Haiti did.
They did gain their independence.
The United States gains its independence from Haiti.
Oh, no.
No, no.
Yeah, what country did the U.S. do?
I don't know.
Okay, who was the first president of Brooklyn?
What country?
Britain.
Who was the first president of the USA?
I don't know.
Washington.
Washington.
What country is the Great Wall of China in?
China.
There we go.
Are you sure?
How many?
We'll skip that one.
How many days in a year?
365.
How many letters in the alphabet?
27?
I don't know.
Watch!
I have no idea.
How many letters are in the alphabet?
26.
Oh, that was close.
How many days of the week end with the letter Y?
All of them?
All of them.
Congrats.
What language?
What language do the people in Idaho speak?
English.
Yep.
What ocean is California next to?
Pacific.
How many years are in a decade?
Didn't we do this in 20?
Yeah, it's not 100.
Oh, years in a decade.
How many years in a decade?
100.
100?
Oh.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, how many are in a century?
120.
That's what that's 120.
Wait, no, we're tired.
I'm so 30.
I can answer.
I could have just gotten my third BBL revision surgery, and I could still answer these questions as I'm coming out of my fucking good for you.
Hold on, we're almost there.
You know what?
If you spoke into the mic and I didn't have to remind you fucking a hundred times to speak into the mic, we would have been out of here 10 years ago.
Oh my god.
We would have been out of here telling you.
Let me get through it.
Wait, Brooklyn, let's just finish.
We're literally almost there.
Just god damn, stop fucking whinging about it.
Shit.
I don't like it.
Okay.
What?
Oh, my God.
That's like unpaid labor.
It's like.
If you think about it, you'll never do something worse.
Yay, it's only getting moved.
We need to get a better war.
If a dozen eggs cost $3, how much is each egg?
Wait.
I'm too tired.
A dozen eggs cost $3.
How much is each egg?
Julia, can you take that seat over there?
Over here?
Yeah, that one that's open.
Okay.
I don't know.
Dozen eggs.
Dozen eggs cost $3.
How much is each egg?
Four.
Four.
Julia, what's your answer?
If a dozen eggs cost $3, how much is each egg?
25 cents.
I was the house.
That is correct.
What is the closest star to Earth?
What do crickets down?
You don't know?
Okay.
Oh my god, Brooklyn, shut the fuck up.
We want to go.
You got a clip for me?
Bro, don't.
If you guys keep fucking every three questions, just let me get through the questions.
Damn.
All right.
What was your answer to that one?
The sun.
You were not going to say the sun.
Thank you, Brooklyn.
Fuck, whatever.
Do you know what year the War of 1812 started?
1812.
What weighs more?
A pound of feathers or a pound of bricks?
Me?
A pound of feathers.
Look, you guys have no fucking room to complain.
You guys were 40 fucking minutes late.
Hey, Marsha.
I've been up since 3 a.m.
I do have to go.
Do you want to answer the question?
She said a pound of feathers.
Which is.
Okay.
What country is the Panama Canal in Brooklyn?
Panama.
What country is Mount Fuji in?
I think that's Japan.
What country is the Coliseum in?
I have no idea.
What country?
You don't.
The Coliseum?
Rome is not a country.
Well, Italy.
Oh, Rome.
Yeah, sorry.
What country?
That's fine.
What country is the Taj Mahal in?
To any of you?
India?
What language do people in Mexico speak?
Spanish.
If you pass the person in second place, what place are you in?
No, I guess it's not wrong.
Hold on, hold on.
I ran to the next one.
Okay, if you pass the person in second place, what place are you in?
First.
You're in first, Brooklyn?
First?
You were in third.
What place were you in your first place?
If you pass the person in second place, what place are you in?
What place?
First.
First?
First.
First, you're all fucking wrong.
What is it?
You're in second place.
If you pass the person in second place.
You didn't pass the person in first place.
You said if you pass the person in second place.
In second place.
Oh, I see.
I see.
Yeah, that's right.
Wrong twister.
Tricky.
Wait.
Way too, first place, second place.
You didn't do that.
What the fuck?
Okay, where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
Hawaii.
Hawaii.
Okay, this one's for Brooklyn.
A farmer has 17 sheep.
All but nine die.
How many are left?
No, six?
Julia?
Nine.
Right, because all but nine die.
Yeah.
What country is the Eiffel Tower in?
Paris.
That's it.
France.
Yeah.
What we'll skip that one.
Adolf Hit this.
If you guys fuck this one up, Adolf Hitler ruled which country?
Germany.
Germany.
Before Mount Everest was discovered, what was the tallest mountain in the world?
Palomadaro?
I don't know my mountains.
Huh?
Everest.
Ah, she's smart.
Wait, what?
Oh, what?
It's still Mount Everest.
What country did the Vietnam War happen in?
Brooklyn.
Okay.
How much is a quarter of an hour?
15 minutes.
What is 34 plus 66?
Oh, shit.
110?
Brooklyn?
What was it again?
34 plus 66.
Somewhere around 100.
It's 100.
Somewhere around.
Okay, who's the current U.S. president?
The orange guy.
What's his name?
Okay.
What is 100 minus 66?
66.
100 minus 66.
I'm too tired.
Who was the U.S. president before Trump?
Obama.
I guess it's a technicality.
Oh, yeah, Biden and Obama.
What is 100 minus 34?
66.
What is 77 plus 33, Brooklyn?
110.
103.
If you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today?
10.
Well done.
How many world wars were there?
Three?
Three world wars?
Two.
I thought there was like three.
There might have been 10.
There might have been seven, to be honest.
66 plus 44.
1.
Wait, 66 plus what?
Typical Hollywood Production Days00:05:59
Excuse me.
66 plus 44.
One time.
Okay.
Let's see.
what decade was world war one tell you what i'll give you guys sort of 1980 i'll give you guys an out if you guys take your makeup off Fuck yeah, give it to you.
Give it to me.
Brooklyn, will you do it?
Will you take your makeup off?
Okay, give it to me.
I'll give it to you.
Lexi, no, I have a waterproof mascara on, and then that's kind of hit my eyes.
Come on.
Oh my god, you guys are such babies.
There you go.
I'm still gonna fucking ask the questions, though, while they're doing that shit.
Are you not gonna do it, Brooklyn?
If it's just fucking Julie over here, then we'll see.
No, fucking.
You guys aren't fucking doing it.
So whatever.
I'm gonna do this.
Has to do it.
Yeah, if these girls don't do it, then it's like, whatever.
Well, at least we good to go.
Oh, that's not the deal, but I mean.
You said that was the deal.
You can't do it.
It was for everybody has to take their makeup off.
Yeah, that was the one.
What are you going to do?
Yeah, I mean, if you want, don't even take your shit off and get the fuck out then.
If you guys want to be fucking giving me out of the way, Brian, you get agitated for real at 2:30 in the morning.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, like, get the fucking shit.
Just fucking get out.
These fucking girls are 40 minutes late.
They're fucking 40 minutes late and they're going to fucking complain about.
They're going to fucking complain about this shit.
We told you how long the show's going to fucking go.
You know how it is.
You said you said it.
Yeah, shut the fuck up.
Get the fuck out.
Get the fuck out.
Out you fucking go.
You fucking been rude all fucking night.
You can't fire me.
I can't.
All right.
There it is.
Hey, are they in the fucking bathroom and shit?
Yeah, bro.
These girls are fucking late and didn't even apologize.
They didn't even fucking apologize.
And yeah, man.
This might be a first, by the way.
Hold on.
Is she in the fucking bathroom?
Like.
Bro, they've been fucking moping and whining and shit.
Like, bro, you.
You gotta understand.
I'm speaking to the viewers now.
If you do a Hollywood production in Los Angeles, you're gonna be on set for, nah, you can just leave it center.
You're gonna be on set for a typical production day is 12 hours.
This is an opportunity for these people, and they fucking whine and moan.
They can't pull.
They'll stay up until 3 a.m. at a rave.
They'll stay up until 4 a.m. going out and partying.
And it's like you're here on a show.
See it through to the end.
Don't fucking whinge about it.
Yeah, it does go late.
But so what?
It's a fucking production.
Fucking production.
Anyways, yeah, man.
Can you close that for me?
I'm telling you, though, like people, look, I'm not exaggerating when I say a Hollywood production.
You go do a production, it's a 12-hour day.
That's a 12-hour day if you go do a Hollywood production.
And it's like, it's, and people will be doing, you'll be on set five days.
You'll be on set every single day.
Oh, fuck.
I spilled my water, but yeah, man.
So this might be a first, I think.
I don't know if I've ever had that.
Yeah, I don't know if I've ever had that before.
But it's like, bro, they'll stay out to the club till fucking 4 a.m., 5 a.m. and shit.
And yeah, I don't know, dude.
I don't know.
What's the chat saying?
All I gotta say, Brian, love your show.
Definitely a first.
You don't get paid on the day.
It's usually at the end of mass migration.
The French started revolutions before.
Bro, yeah, she's kind of annoying, to be honest.
Brian, before the world record.
Wait, hold on.
Are they?
Yeah, yeah.
Bro, we tell them how long it's going to be.
How long have we been streaming?
Let me see.
Okay, it has been long, to be fair.
But look, I mean, it's a fucking production, you know.
Fucking production.
You had so much fun that felt like it was going well when I got.
I don't know.
They're fucking moping and sag limit is eight hours a day with a 12-hour.
I don't, what?
Bro, I'm telling you, Google, if you can, you can chat GPT it right now.
Uh, Tiffany, can you type in the chat GPT tab?
Uh, what is a typical production day in Hollywood?
Take a typical production day, Hollywood.
All right, I need to see some prime subs in the chat.
What the fuck?
No, can you get just ask for hours?
How long is a production day?
Fucking 40 words per minute here.
Yeah, you gotta hit, you gotta, what, no, you gotta hit enter.
You didn't hit enter.
Okay, so key realities: long hours, 12 to 14 hour days are common.
It's like, okay, man.
It is what it is.
All right, pull up Twitch really quick.
Bro, we had so much bullshit today behind the scenes.
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I'm not even F11, please.
Guys, let me see a prime sub.
Show some love.
That was a fucking stressful show, boys.
Show some love.
Yeah, drop us a follow.
Drop us a prime sub if you're enjoying the stream.
I'm trying to think if there's anything else.
Guys, Rachel debate Saturday.
We have a debate with Rachel Saturday.
We have Rachel coming Sunday.
And let's see.
I'm trying to think if there's anything else I need to go over.
Oh, I guess really quick, I'll give you some context for everything.
So the two girls here, Brooklyn and Lexi, and we're very clear that we need people here at 4 p.m. sharp.
We need people here at 4 p.m. sharp.
They were 40 minutes late.
We had another girl who was an hour late who we just said, nah, like we're not going to put you on.
We had like one or two girls flake.
We had one girl no show.
And yeah, it's just frustrating, man.
It's frustrating.
And we had that girl, Lindsay, she quit.
I got blamed for making her cry for Veronica or whatever.
I made her cry.
She just wasn't being sensitive.
That's the sisterhood.
That's when that's very dangerous thing.
Where the moment a woman, what's that saying?
By, it's like Plato or Socrates or something.
A woman will cry because, ah, fuck, I'm going to butcher this.
Let me just fucking Google it.
Does somebody in the chat know what it is?
Women will cry, trust not when a woman weeps for, trust not.
I don't know.
This is going to be some crazy shit.
Some people say it's attributed to Socrates, but trust not a woman when she weeps.
Excuse me.
Oh my God.
Sorry, guys.
I'm tired.
I'm running over my words here.
Trust not a woman when she weeps.
For it is.
For it is her nature to weep when she wants her will.
In any case, I hope you guys enjoyed the stream.
That was kind of scuffed, not going to lie.
But ad hoc, ad hoc justification to justify bad behavior.
I don't even know how that would make you cry, though.
So I was just saying, yeah, men don't want to date.
Like, women don't want to date overweight guys either.
Like, I'm not doing like a double standard sexist thing.
Like, I acknowledge women don't want to date overweight guys.
Men don't want to date overweight women in general.
It's not wrong to reject somebody who you're not attracted to.
And she started crying about it.
And it was my fault.
Like, isn't it common sense that men care about a woman's weight?
So it's like, is this not something she's heard before?
Like, is it her first time ever hearing that men have standards?
Is it her first time ever hearing that men have preferences and that men Newsflash are allowed to have physical standards for women?
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
Anyways, you should boot them all at the end to see the reaction, then chat with us about their actions.
I mean, I don't think I've ever had that happen, really.
I'm trying to think.
So, yeah, I don't know.
They're huffing and puffing and they're telling me to hurry it up.
I'm trying to get through it.
These girls are late.
We started chat.
How late did we start the show?
I don't know if anybody started watching.
I don't know if anybody started watching at like the very beginning, but didn't we start like 20 minutes late, chat?
Like, didn't we start 20 minutes late?
Yeah, it's like they were fucking late.
They didn't even apologize.
Those two girls didn't even say, hey, sorry, I'm late.
That's just common courtesy.
Like, just say, I don't need you to fucking, oh my God, please forgive me.
I just say, hey, sorry, I'm late.
Just come and say that to me.
Tiffany, when they showed up, did they say sorry?
Yeah, they did.
What did they say?
I'm sorry, I'm usually not late.
I'm very punctual.
Yeah.
40 minutes late.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They were 40 minutes late.
We ended up having to start 20 minutes late.
Hey, it is what it is.
All right.
Well, I'm trying to think if there's anything else to go over.
I will say, yeah, there was some other bullshit, bro.
Some girl just no-showed.
She, I'll tell you guys the quick story on this.
I'll give you some behind the scenes lore and then we'll wrap this up here in two minutes.
We were going to have this one girl come on and she just passive aggressively just decides to no-show.
So this girl in the DMs asks me, hey, so she tells me that she's married, but she's an OF girl.
And you guys know that a lot of these OnlyFans girls, they lie about their relationship status because as an OF girl, you'll make more money if you pretend to be single.
And so she asked me, hey, by the way, I know I said I'm married, but can you not, can you pretend like I'm single?
And I was hesitant because I'm like, I don't want there to ever be a communication or anything that even hints at a level of staging.
We don't stage the show.
Everything is authentic.
I don't tell the girls to say stupid things.
I don't, everything is real.
And by the way, if I staged the show, I could make the show way more viral and way more interesting than it is.
If I wanted to stage it, trust me, I would have, there would be, there would be girls rage quitting every show.
I'd be kicking off a girl every show.
I would have like girls intentionally saying really crazy things.
Everything on the show is 100% authentic.
But this girl wanted me to participate in her charade.
And I didn't know how to respond to that.
So I was just like, okay.
I just said, okay, when she asked, I just said, okay.
Because I didn't want to, I don't even want the appearance of encouraging women to come on the show and lie.
Because I've had women message me and they're like, they'll ask me, hey, Brian, should I just come on and like say something crazy that's not true?
Or should I just come on the show and rage bait?
Or should I come on the show?
And oh, we could get some really viral moments if I lie and say this.
I shut them down immediately.
I say, absolutely not.
I'm not even sure if I want you on the show anymore.
We have impromptu, unscripted conversations on the show.
And if you're going to come on and just bullshit everything.
Now, look, to be fair, I think there's probably, there's definitely women who've come on on their own volition and they've probably made shit up.
Like, of course that's happened.
But if a woman tries to be like, yo, Brian, do you want to like set something up where I do something crazy?
And I'm like, no.
This show is authentic.
This show, nothing is staged.
Nothing is scripted.
It's all unscripted.
And the women will try.
I've had a few women ask.
Truthfully, it's been like a handful of women have been like, so should I come on?
And I'm like, no, no, no, don't even fucking say that.
I don't even want that in my DM.
Do not say that.
I will not participate.
If I get a hint that you're bullshitting, I'm going to kick you off.
So anyways, I don't know.
Sorry that I'm fucking if I'm ranting here, but I did want to tell you guys that we did have a no-show because I didn't want to participate in this woman's OnlyFans charade of being single.
Now, look, if she came on anyways, I wouldn't have exposed her or something, but it's like, I don't want to have this appearance of ever being like, yeah, I'm going to play along with your charade.
Like, I don't know.
That's fucking stupid.
Okay.
Let's see if there's anything missing here.
Well, I hope you guys enjoyed the stream.
I hope you.
yeah and there's people who are like is this staged is this truck guys you guys know the show would be way more I could put, if I wanted to stage this shit, I would.
I would.
I'm a creative guy.
I could do.
I could have all kinds of crazy shit happening.
It would be fucking full-on Jerry Springer.
But I don't do that.
I don't want to be that.
Even if that means that there's boring moments on the show.
And trust me, there are.
Anyways.
I hope you guys enjoyed the stream, guys.
I hope you guys enjoyed the stream.
Those of you who made it here, thank you, thank you.
Can we add some W's for Tiffany in the chat?
She's probably going to quit, to be honest.
What do you think, Tiffany?
You're not going to.
Yo, I feel like Tiffany was last show kind of.
I think last show was kind of boring, wasn't it?
Hmm.
Yeah, I don't know.
You were here last episode, right, Tiffany?
I like Washio more.
Yeah, this show's, I feel bad.
You know what's funny, chat?
Let me give you, let me give you the chat some behind-the-scenes stuff.
Wait, oh my God.
Wait, Tiffany, sit down.
Oh, boy.
tiffany reveal tiffany reveal tiffany reveal you're fat Shouldn't your Korean mom be like bullying you over that or something?
I feel bad for a lot of the times there's this phenomenon where this was the case for Nick.
It was the case for Nathan, I think.
And it was the case for uh, I don't know if it was the case for Tiffany for some of my new producers, like their first episode is brutal.
Like Nathan, his first episode was the Andrew Wilson uh episode like a month or something ago.
Yeah, Tiffany's a Groyper, by the way.
Don't say that.
I'm kidding.
I'm just joking.
I'm just joking.
She's not.
She's so.
I'm kidding, guys.
I'm just trying to, I'm kidding.
I'm just trying to embarrass her.
I'm just trying to embarrass her.
She's she's a woman.
I'm a woman of color.
She's a woman of color.
She's a she's a POC.
She's DIE.
She does not.
She's has no political opinions whatsoever.
That's not true.
I do.
What does your shirt say?
Is that Russian?
Or what is the.
It says black dog.
Is that what is it?
What is the root?
It's Kanye's merch.
Oh, it's Kanye's merch.
Okay.
Russian designer, though.
Good times.
Good times.
Okay.
Well, that was interesting.
I'm going to wrap the show here.
Is there anything we're forgetting?
Guys, like the video, I guess.
Oh, I got to do my outro.
Okay.
Let me do the outro.
Do you want a popsicle or something?
No, I just thought of something.
What?
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with us tonight or something.
Oh, yeah, true.
Okay.
You do have Kanye West tattoos, though.
Yeah.
Do you regret those?
Or you should.
I went on my waist, kind of.
Yeah.
Good times.
Everything's meant to happen.
Okay.
Well, I want to say GG.
Normally I say here, GG to the panel.
But they're all gone.
So, oh boy, that was a rough one.
Okay.
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