WORST PANEL EVER?! Near KICK?! ØF Girl "VlRGlN" Waiting Until Marriage?! | Dating Talk 282
Dating Talk 282 dives into raw, chaotic debates: Stella, a bikini barista-turned-nursing student, defends her OnlyFans work—including cock ratings—as temporary and "less sinful" than full pornography, clashing with Brian’s biblical stance that sex work contradicts Christianity. Jocelyn, a psychology grad, dismisses Bad Bunny as talentless while critiquing government-funded soft sciences, arguing they lack societal impact compared to STEM fields. Valerie reveals her five-year singleness and complicated "situationship" with a man who avoids child support, sparking discussions on dating leverage, virginity claims, and whether women can be "high-value" sex workers. The panel’s unfiltered takes—from revenge bleach attacks to fertility debates—expose generational, cultural, and ethical divides in modern relationships. [Automatically generated summary]
Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.
I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
We're going to just jump right into the show.
Sorry for the delay there, guys.
Sorry, we're a little late.
So go ahead and introduce yourself.
Hey, I'm Stella.
I recently quit Bikini Coffee, and so I'm a full-time OF girl.
I'm still in college for nursing, which is really fun.
And I'm 19.
19.
And where are you from?
Portland, Oregon.
Grew up there.
Pretty much born in Texas.
I'd love to go back and get a little warm weather, but I'm in Portland right now.
Okay, all right.
And you said you're a bikini, what is it, barista?
For the last year, I was working as a bikini barista.
I have about two shifts left before I am done forever.
And so what's that?
You serve coffee in a bikini or how's that work?
Yeah, it's such a Portland thing.
So I just serve coffee and lingerie or a bikini.
Yeah.
And there's no nudity.
No.
Just like it's like a normal.
Yeah, like normal coffee.
People come by, chit-chat a little more than usual.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Jocelyn.
I'm 27.
I was born and raised in Houston, Texas, but now I live in Los Angeles.
Okay.
i'm an actress i just left my hostess job in calabasas yesterday but you quit or i Bad terms, good terms?
I walked away from it gracefully without burning bridges, but I did leave because of management.
But I do have a psychology degree.
Okay.
From where?
U of H, University of Houston.
A bachelor's, master's.
Bachelor's.
Okay.
Psychology degree.
I want to come back to that a little bit later, but what about you?
Hello, I'm Esther.
I'm from Indiana, but I reside in Los Angeles.
Where from Indiana?
Gary?
It's a small town.
It's called Batesville.
Gary, Indiana?
No.
No?
Okay, Batesville.
Your health?
28.
28?
Yep.
Okay.
What do you do for work?
I'm a stripper.
I'm a musician and a YouTuber.
Okay.
And you education?
High school and some college.
Some college.
What were you studying?
No, I just went to college.
I took some credits.
What about you?
Hi, my name is Lonnie, but y'all can call me Sinclair.
I'm 22.
I am a high school graduate and I've been a dancer for like on and off, like four years, I would say.
I also did some like online content within that time.
Only five.
Yeah, and then just, like, on my own type shit, and then, um...
Type shit?
Yeah, sorry.
I didn't know about, I didn't want to like, I wanted to like soft launch the shit, but yeah, I say shit a lot.
Other than that, I was a server for a long time.
But yeah, now I'm just dancing.
When you say dancing, you mean strip club?
Yeah.
Okay.
Like bullshit.
But I'm going, I'm actually a future soldier for the army, so I'm going to be leaving soon.
Oh, you already.
Would it be enlisted?
You already enlisted?
No, I'm not.
I have to, I'm like swearing in this month, though.
Okay, that's the term swearing in.
Okay.
Yeah.
For the army.
Indeed.
All right.
Cool.
Period.
What about you?
That was a long sigh before you said, what about you?
I'm Valerie.
I'm a music artist, and I also have a clothing brand.
I do e-commerce with TikTok Shop.
So you guys will probably see me on TikTok scrolling through.
Age?
I'm 24.
No college, but I graduated.
I graduated from you.
Hi, I'm Andrea, and I am from the IE.
I am 27, and occupation is I do branding and content operations for a cannabis brand, and then I also have a little regular job with the county.
Okay, so 27, and any college or university or anything?
Yeah, I went to community college for a little bit, but I did not finish.
Okay, what about you?
Hi, I'm Millie Slaughter.
I'm a server, I'm a comedian, and I am also a co-host on a podcast called Housing Over Bass.
We do DNR, so yeah, that's my life.
DNR do not resuscitate?
Yeah, no, that's what I mean.
Dating and relationships.
Oh, dating and relationships.
Wouldn't that be D-A-R?
Dating and D-N-R.
Well, and is A.
And.
It's like an N. Like D, an apology.
Like a Baltic.
In an out, I guess.
Okay.
Age?
I am 29.
Any college?
University?
A lot of colleges, a lot of nothing happens.
Okay.
What were you studying?
Everything?
Nothing?
Yeah, I want to do everything.
What about you?
I'm Shara from Fallbrook.
I'm a singer and a songwriter.
I also own a holistic spa.
And I'm 38 years old, and I'm sorry for being late.
Oh, well, I appreciate the apology.
She was, you know, just a little late, an hour late.
You know what, though?
I'll explore that a little bit.
Last Date, Awkward Train Ride00:10:31
Oh, no.
A little bit later, though.
You get a little bit of my wrath.
You get a little bit of my wrath, but we'll talk about it.
I appreciate the apology, though.
Okay.
Thank you.
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Okay, going around the table once more.
What's everybody's relationship status?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's everyone's relationship status?
Starting with you.
I'm single.
All right.
How long have you been single for since high school?
So you did have a boyfriend in high school then?
Yeah.
Okay, so and you're 19?
Yeah.
So what?
One year, two years you've been single?
I graduated at 17, so two years.
Okay.
Or actually three.
Sorry.
Longest relationship?
It was just over a year.
And that's the one that ended two to three years ago?
Yeah, when I was like 16, so it wasn't serious.
Okay.
Gotcha.
What about you?
I'm happily single.
Happily single?
Yeah.
Happily single.
Okay.
How long have you been single for?
Two years.
All right.
Longest relationship?
Three years.
Three years.
Is that the one that ended two years ago?
Okay.
Who broke up with who?
I broke up with him.
Okay.
Any particular reason?
I think we just wanted different things in life, and he was going to break up with me, so I broke up with him.
So, yeah.
Okay.
No cheating or anything like that?
No.
Okay.
Just, yeah.
Single for two years.
Happily single, though.
So yesterday was Valentine's Day, which is a topic we're going to focus on a little bit once we get through everyone's relationship status.
Did you have a Valentine yesterday?
No, myself.
No, Valentine's date.
And then what about you?
Did you have a Valentine?
No, I worked, so I did get a lot of flowers.
Okay.
So, but when you say happily single, what does that mean?
Because you didn't just say single.
You said happily single.
Not actively dating, and I just like being in my own company, taking myself out.
Okay.
When's the last time you're on a date?
I'm going to say last March.
It's about a year ago.
About a year ago.
Now, sometimes though, when we use the term date, people will only categorize a romantic hangout with a man, but not consider it a date.
So when I use the word date, I mean it perhaps less formally, a bit more casually.
I mean it more in the sense of you have hung out and spent time with a guy one-on-one who you have an interest in and there's a mutual interest.
Does that shift to the time period of when you last had a date?
No, that was my last conscious date.
Like where I agree.
You had an unconscious sleepwalking and I'm thinking like we're just hanging out.
Does anybody sleepwalk that way?
I sleep eat.
I have before.
I sleptwalk.
I actually sleptwalked before and I was like.
Sleep sexers.
I've done that.
But I folded clothes in my sleep before.
Wow, that's that's awesome.
Yeah.
It's like get through that.
When I was married, I did.
But you have not consciously dated for a year.
Did you like fall into a date accidentally?
Because sometimes girls will like meet up with a guy thinking, like not knowing it's a date, and then the guy's like, surprise, it's a date.
No, this one, he asked me out.
He gave me three options, an adventure, chill, or an activity.
So I chose an adventure and he took me to San Diego for our first date.
And so we spent the whole day together.
Oh, yeah.
Or what?
San Diego, like the aquarium, Lafayette Hotel.
Okay.
Yeah.
So.
And you took the, how did you get there?
The train.
You book a train.
That was the last date you ever went on.
Yes, it was just a lot.
So that's very high effort.
That's what I'm saying.
That's why I took a year later.
And so what happened?
I mean, it was fun.
It was, you know, platonic, but I knew he was really into me.
And by the time it was the end of the date where we had to go back on the train, I had to like awkwardly break it to him.
Like, we're not doing this again.
But he went all in.
He like got a hotel.
And got a good date.
Yeah.
A whole date of the day of his life.
Did you guys spent the night?
No, he probably thought that was going to happen, but I was like, take us back.
But you said he got a hotel.
He did.
So was the plan for you guys to spend the night there?
I don't like you.
He was saying that, oh, like, I always spend time in San Diego.
So I have this like room always available to me.
And I'm like, okay.
But we ended up just leaving my bag there and then like continued our day.
We didn't spend any time in the hotel.
And then, so he took you to the aquarium.
Did he buy you dinner?
Yes.
Multiples.
Yeah.
Multiple.
Yeah, we had two dinners.
Two dinners?
Yeah.
It was just one date.
It was basically a day trip together for our first date.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so why didn't it because you said when you got back on the train, you that was the last time you were going to see him.
Yeah.
Like, so why?
I wasn't attracted to him.
When you know, but you said you, like, you knew this guy.
How did you meet him?
At a bar two days before.
Oh, a bar two days before.
Okay.
So wait, you did meet him in person.
Yes.
When you met him at the bar two days prior, how long had you guys conversed?
Maybe like two hours.
Oh, two hours at the bar.
I like it.
think so so you didn't you were were you attracted to him at the bar It was nighttime, I guess.
Maybe it was dark.
Maybe he was just nice.
I think he was just nice.
I'm like, you know what?
Let's get this nice guy a chance.
Yeah.
Oh, he was nice.
So he treated you well.
It wasn't like he was a jerk.
No, no, no.
He was nice.
Like, so would you say the date, there wasn't, he wasn't being weird or anything?
No, just very overly excited.
He was overly excited.
He was too nice.
This is going to tie in perfectly with our Valentine's conversation.
But so on the train ride back, and just one point of clarification.
You had originally intended, or at least he had originally intended for you guys to stay there.
Probably.
But then you were like, oh, I want to go home.
I was like, when's the last train back to LA?
He's like, 9 p.m.
I'm like, well, we got to catch that train.
We.
So did he stay in San Diego or he left with him?
And how long's the train?
Like an hour?
Two hours.
Two hours.
Now, question.
You said on the train ride, you're like, hey, there's not going to be another meet.
Did you say that at the end of the train ride or at the beginning of the train ride?
In the middle of the train ride.
So there was another additional hour of awkwardness.
Let's sit with it a little bit.
You should have just, I mean, you could have saved that shit for later.
But then I had to, but then we went to Union Station and then I drove him to his spot.
Like, yeah.
Yeah, but it's like.
So this is like why say it in the middle of the day?
Like, why not just be like, I'm not saying you had to like continue anything with the guy, but you could have just been like, all the, the way it played out, you having told him in the middle of the train ride, you could have, everything would have been the same, but you could have told him like after, you know?
I was just like, you can just do it.
Like, if you went, like, if, let's say that, let me know.
She's adventurous.
She's like, she's like, she knows what she wants, what she wants.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Like, how about this?
Like, let's say you and me were married, and then we went to Hawaii for some shit.
Like, for, I don't know.
And then, like, as soon as we land in Hawaii, I'm like, hey, by the way, we're getting a divorce.
I feel like even if the plan, even if the plan, like, I'm going to divorce you, I think it's like, well, I guess we can fuck a few more times in Hawaii.
You know, like, I feel like you got to wait until the vacation's over.
No, I'm finding someone else on that vacation.
If you're married, that's ridiculous.
You wait timing, you know, timing.
Hey, look, I know timing, it's never a good time to reject somebody, I guess, right?
But, or to break up with somebody.
The timing is never perfect, but because isn't it?
I feel like you should have waited a little bit.
Like in the car, it's like awkward.
That would have been awkward.
It's only awkward if you make it awkward.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Awkwardness is a choice.
It's a choice.
You can make sure that embarrassment is a choice.
That shit's all optional, bro.
That's like, imagine you're about to get murdered by like a serial killer.
It's only awkward if you make it on the bottom.
Was my fit heart, though?
Was my fit heart, though?
He wasn't sad.
It's a little awkward.
You got to play your part.
He got me tied up to a table about to harvest my organs.
A bit awkward.
Isn't that true?
Because sometimes nice guys, they'll rather be your friend and wait until you're ready.
So he could have made it cool.
I could see that for you.
Anyways, I don't know.
And he probably knew you had to take him home too.
So he was trying to play it cool also.
Oh, she's my ride.
She's my ride.
I gotta take it.
If he's a mature guy, even though the timing perhaps wasn't perfect, you're not gonna, you're just gonna, I mean, it's unideal timing, but you're not gonna blow up the entire remaining trip back.
But yeah.
Okay, so that's interesting.
So you've been single for a year.
Have there been any guys in the picture at all in any capacity?
Two.
What does that mean?
Two years.
Oh, wait, sorry, you've been single for two years.
Yeah, yeah.
But I guess since the date, since that date, because you said the last time you went on a date was about a year ago.
Yeah.
So in the past year, I guess you could say, have there been any other guys in the picture?
Yeah.
What does that mean?
Like hookups?
I don't know.
Bad Bunny's Country Critique00:11:16
I like musicians.
Musicians.
Yeah.
And so, you know, when you're in LA, you'd be bumping into all the rappers, all these rappers.
Wow, rappers.
Which rapper?
I'm not saying no name.
But you know, like the musicians.
Are they white rappers, black rappers, Latino rappers?
T-O-C.
Yeah.
People of color.
Rappers.
Yeah.
Okay.
And so you've bumped into and had situations, situations with some rappers.
Yeah, musicians, yeah.
Musicians.
And when you meet them, it's what, like at a bar, club, party?
Yeah, like jazz clubs, bars.
Rias.
Are you on Riot?
No, I don't know what that is.
Is it someone we might all know?
Probably.
Do you meet rappers?
Kendrick?
No.
No, not Kendrick.
Kanye, no.
A little pump.
No.
I don't know.
I'm not really a rap guy.
I'm more of a job.
No, he was like really dangerous.
Wait, you meet rappers at jazz clubs?
We chase them everywhere.
But rappers be going to jazz clubs trying to find beats or what?
That's what the best musicians are, girl.
They probably chasing buns, bro.
No.
Bad bunny.
Just curious.
Just curious about it.
Who liked his Super Bowl halftime performance show of hand?
I didn't watch that.
Raise them high.
I thought Bad Bunny was a girl until the Super Bowl.
I watched it good.
I got to be honest.
Look, we're not going to.
Disrespect.
I did not like it.
I watched that shit.
That was so fucking bad.
It was so bad.
It was honestly probably could have been one of the worst.
I mean, I like, I've seen the clip where he pulled out all the like Latino flags.
I fuck with that.
What's that?
But I'm talking, when I say it was bad, I'm talking about the quality of the music.
Where were you raised?
Do you even know what it means?
Where was I?
Yeah, where were you raised?
California.
I'm from California.
Okay, because a lot of people don't understand the Super Bowl because of where they were raised.
Like you, you got to be raised into that culture.
It has a lot of symbolism in it.
Raised in what culture?
In the Latino culture.
You got to be raised in Latin.
I mean, I don't know what's going on.
Wait, hold on.
A taco spot doesn't count.
No.
There's Spanish music that I like and enjoy, and I think it has good rhythm and it has good melody or whatever.
Look, Bad Bunny is so lacking and frankly and lacking in talent.
I don't know how this guy's actually popular.
He is popular.
Maybe that's an indictment of the sort of cultural and social zeitgeist that currently exist.
But in any case, completely talentless guy.
Don't talk about the needle app.
He made it to the Super Bowl.
So Tale loves us.
I think you're able to keep your face in this big.
It's not bad.
So, I mean, ultimately, what I'm talking about here.
He don't like corridos, bro.
What's that?
Nah.
He's already talent left because I'm not a kid.
He likes Katie Perry.
That's why.
That's like Mexican music.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
No, that's what Bad Bunny is, right?
Like with rapping.
So I'm saying his particular music.
Oh, it's like regatori.
Can you stop interrupting?
So I'm saying his music, I think, is not particularly good.
I don't think his music is good.
Do you know what he's saying?
No, do you know what it means?
I don't speak Spanish, but I mean, I actually did look.
I translated the lyrics from the halftime show.
And I think the first one is, I have a lot of girlfriends.
I'm going to take them to the VIP, the VIP, V-A-A, oi, oi, oi.
That's what all those songs are about, literally.
VIP, VIP, and it's like...
That's like a wrap.
Yeah, it's like rap.
Do you like country music?
There's some rappers who I think are talented and who have good melody.
I think if you look at you look at Eminem, he's extremely talented.
And there's plenty of other rap artists.
But yeah, I mean, and it has nothing to do, again, you're trying to make it about like the culture or whatever.
No, there's rap artists or whatever that I enjoy.
His music's just terrible, to be honest.
You like what you like.
You like Eminem.
Everybody got an opinion.
Do you like country music?
Not particularly.
I mean, I could name you more rappers and hip-hop artists than I can name country artists, but I don't dislike country.
There's some country I like, but I mean, my music tastes are more like 80s, or sorry, not 80s, 90s.
I mean, look, there's some 80s stuff that's really good.
90s and 2000-ish.
That's more my speed.
2000s.
More rock music typically, but I like other genres too.
But yeah, the actual music's pretty bad.
It just makes sense because like Spanish music is more like country.
Like they talk about drinking and ladies and heartbreak, like country music.
So when people say that they don't like Spanish music, but they like country music, I get confused because it's kind of the same thing, just in a different font, you know?
Well, you do realize, regardless of the subject or topic of the song, there's other components of the song besides the actual topic of the song or the things brought up in the song.
For example, you would agree that there's some love songs that are really good and then some love songs that are fucking dog shit.
So it's not about, well, he's talking about these things.
That's not my criticism.
My criticism is about the quality of the music itself.
What do you feel makes a song?
Well, I'd say, for example, what do I feel makes a song?
Yeah, do you feel like it's the melodies or do you feel like it's the lyrics that are written in the song?
Because I'm trying to figure out what you're against as far as Bad Bunny's music.
Is it the melodies that he has?
Because obviously you don't understand his lyrics.
Or maybe you'll look up the lyrics and you'll think they're BS.
And you're like, oh, but his melody is not that bad.
Yeah, it's not even my criticism, really.
My criticism, and again, I can tell you there's music in other languages that I enjoy.
Like I can enjoy, there's songs in Spanish that I find really nice.
Sure.
So it's not about not understanding the lyrics.
It's just, I mean, look, the actual lyrical quality is quite poor.
But I would also.
He makes it.
But I think for Hispanic people, they read it or they listen to it differently than we do.
You understand?
Because I don't know Spanish.
I don't know Spanish either.
So I feel like a person that knows and understands Spanish, they listen to the music differently than we do.
Okay, sure.
Because I'm going to listen to this song from Bad Bunny and I will know anything he's saying.
But the melody is fine.
I'm going to ask you this.
So, and you might say this is a bit of an extreme example.
If we go, if we fast forward 50 years, do you think that they're still going to be listening to Michael Jackson?
I hope so.
Yeah.
Do you think they'll be listening to the Beatles?
I goddamn hope so.
Do you think in 50 years people are going to be listening to Bad Bunny?
Absolutely.
Fuck.
He has a huge fan.
Nobody's going to know.
You can take an 18-year-old and play them Michael Jackson, and they're going to be like, that's fucking amazing.
In 50 years from now, you play them better.
Okay, but did you look at the numbers for the Super Bowl as well for the people that were watching Michael Jackson's Super Bowl and the people that were watching the Bad Bunny Super Bowl?
Did you check the data on that?
Yeah, no, so I've seen that.
So a lot of people like it.
Do you think just because a lot of people like something that that is actually representative of the quality of the music?
Like a lot of people like fast food and junk food.
Does that mean that the fast food?
I mean, you could say you like a hot dog and all you guys like a hot dog, but I don't like this hot dog from this place because I think it's crap.
And maybe because I have better quality taste of food because I'm from somewhere else separately.
Well, how about where you guys are?
Because maybe you guys grew up in an area where they serve crappy hot dogs and that's the best hot dog that you can.
Are you pro-choice or pro-life?
Pro-choice or pro-life?
Yeah.
Pro-choice.
Okay.
So, hmm, I'm wondering if I would reframe this.
I mean, McDonald's is still open.
So if you're talking about businesses and everything, like McDonald's is shit, but it's still open.
People still go.
People still love it.
That doesn't mean that they're actually giving you typically quality food.
And the, well, there's a whole other conversation to be had.
It's what?
They say it's fresh.
They're lying.
I mean, they might be lying, but people still get to know.
Well, how about this?
Let me ask you.
If, like, 97% of people were cool with pedophilia, would that make it okay?
Okay, this is a completely separate subject.
Answer the question.
So if 97% of people were like, you know what?
This crime is a harmful thing compared to something that is not morally hard.
You got to compare something that's harmful compared to something that may also be harmful.
It's completely crazy.
Bad Bunny performing in the Super Bowl and having more people watch him than Michael Jackson, which I'm not, I love Michael Jackson, by the way.
So then is he better than Michael Jackson?
No, he's not any better than Michael Jackson.
They're in their own lane.
That's what separates the two.
Bad Bunny's like, Bad Bunny is a party.
But it's about separating the two, though.
I think where you lack is you don't know how to separate the two.
That's the thing.
Separate what?
Separate the two as far as like genre-wise.
You're asking me if Bad Bunny is better than Michael Jackson.
I can't say that he is.
It's not a friend that he is.
Because they're not even the same genre.
If I was to say, I don't know, who else is another artist that he does?
That's what I'm similar to Bad Bunny.
Well, hold on.
That's why they win separate Grammys for different categories.
Well, the Grammys are a fucking scam, but tell me.
Why do you think the Grammys are a scam?
That shit's controlled by money.
He attempted to sing.
Whatever that was, he was attempting to sing.
Okay, and then he's not a singer.
No, but he's not.
He's not a rapper.
He was singing or attempting to sing.
He didn't.
As good as he could be.
Moral of the story to Bad Bunny.
He's mid, and a lot of us don't even listen to him.
So there we go.
That settles that.
Yes.
But a lot of people are.
Sorry.
A lot of people like him, though, okay?
So he's validating.
He's not like.
He made it to the halftime show.
That's a win.
No, no, wait.
All my Aislandic stand-up in the chat.
Just to be clear.
Bad Bunny's majority.
Okay.
Just to be clear, I'm not denying.
Hey, I'm Hispanic.
I'm allowed to say I never listened to Bad Bunny.
So I don't know how that works.
Can you guys, if I'm talking, like detect that I'm talking and just let me get through what I'm saying?
Of course, he is widely popular in the sense that a lot of people listen to him.
It's really good for his career that he scored the Super Bowl.
That's a huge achievement.
In fact, my understanding is he did like, he was in a previous Super Bowl too.
He wasn't like the headliner, but he did an appearance, I think it was a couple years ago.
That's huge.
That's huge.
He's super rich.
A lot of people like him.
But gotta be honest.
His music's dog shit.
Okay, there it is.
That's all I have to say.
Well, if I was Bad Bunny, I wouldn't really give a crap what you say because I would have way more money than you.
Four Years Complicated00:16:30
So okay.
He's probably looking at this and laughing.
He's probably not looking at it.
Yeah, at all, at all.
At all.
But if you are, I'm putting it.
You can admit that.
He's in the VIP right now.
He's in the VIP.
Wait, what did Chris Brown say?
How could you hate from outside a club when she came later?
Anyways, okay, I'll know how we got to the Bad Bunny thing.
We were talking about your dating life.
Perfect.
Oh, musicians.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, you're dating musicians.
Yeah.
Imagine it's Bad Bunny.
Yeah, imagine it.
That's crazy.
He's music or whatever.
I don't know how we got to Bad Bunny.
But anyways, moving off of Bad Bunny.
So, okay, you question though.
Your musician guys that you hook up with or whatever, what do you mean?
No, I don't give the cookie up for crumbs.
I just talk to them and have a good time.
No, it's true.
They can never.
They could never.
They could never.
Okay.
All right.
Well, we'll continue with the relationship status then.
What about you?
I'm single.
Single?
How long have you been single for?
Like two years at least.
Single for two years.
Yep.
Okay.
Longest relationship?
Three years.
Three years.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
I'm single.
How long have you been single for?
Wait, wait.
Four years?
Four years?
Yeah.
Longest relationship?
I think three and a half years or four years.
All right, three and a half.
So that was like a high school relationship then?
Ooh.
Yeah.
Okay.
I've only had two boyfriends, and they were both like in high school.
And then like a little bit after.
No boyfriends in the past four years?
No.
Okay.
Don't you normally have like piercings here?
Yeah, I used to have a ton of piercings.
I took them all.
Do you have a septum?
You took them all.
You can't have that shit in the military.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, for real, for real.
Yeah.
All right.
Relationship status?
Single.
It's been five years.
My last relationship lasted about two and a half years.
Okay.
So you're 24, so like at 19?
Yeah.
That was your last.
Okay.
So that was kind of a high school relationship, too.
So what have you met in high school, maybe?
Actually, actually, no.
No.
No, no, I am 24.
My last relationship had to be about like four years ago, actually.
Okay.
About four years ago.
Was that you?
I am in a situationship.
Okay.
For how long?
Who knows?
You know.
It's complicated.
Okay.
How long?
How about this?
When did you meet him?
Stop the cab.
Didn't mean to press the first one, but okay.
One eternity later.
You sure you didn't smoke weed before the show?
No.
You're just perma-baked?
Perma-baked issues.
Crazy work.
Probably.
You smoke a lot of weed.
You dab?
Do you do dabbed?
I do dab.
That explains.
I did shrooms yesterday.
Oh, you did shrooms yesterday.
All right.
Okay, how long has it been complicated?
For a while.
Like, I got a man.
He just gets on my nerves.
So you have a man currently.
Yeah, it's a situation shift.
Sometimes I got him, sometimes I don't.
It's currently February 15th, 2026.
When did you meet him?
Let's give it, like, um...
Because I'm going to tell him myself.
One eternity later.
What do you mean, tell on yourself?
How so?
Um, okay, let's say like four years.
Four years ago, you met him.
Yeah.
So, okay, you've been with him for four years then.
Even though it's complicated.
I understand that.
Sure.
Yes.
Well, not sure.
What's the...
Can you just...
Yeah.
Come on, man.
It's like pulling teeth here.
Have you been seeing him for four years?
Yes.
Okay.
So you say it's complicated.
It's a situation ship.
Do you have kids with him?
No.
Do you have any kids?
Yes.
How many kids?
Two.
One baby daddy, two baby daddies?
Two.
Two different fathers.
Okay.
But the current guy who you've been with for four years, not one of the fathers of the kids.
Is that correct?
Uh no.
No.
You don't know who the biological father of your kids are?
I didn't say I don't know.
I said no.
Well, it took you like 10 seconds to arrive at a no.
I feel like I just heard a secret.
Like, watch TikTok.
I know.
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
Because he's like, oh, like, asking all these details.
I felt like she was a dad.
It's a fucking dating podcast.
No, it's because, like, I know people aren't going to watch this, and I'm just like, it felt like an interrogation right now.
Oh, you think it's.
Okay.
Well, the questions aren't done.
Go ahead.
Okay, so how old are your kids?
I have a seven-year-old and I have an almost two-year-old.
Two-year-old.
So the guy who it's complicated with, you've been with for four years, but you have a two-year-old.
I met him four years ago.
You met him four years.
Well, that's why it's complicated.
You met him four years ago.
I understand sometimes people have periods where they're not seeing somebody, they break up, they're seeing somebody else, they get back together.
But so, okay.
He is not the father.
The guy who it's currently been complicated with for four years, he is not the father of your youngest child.
No.
Okay.
Did he think he was?
No.
Oh, okay.
So, can you give me the timeline here?
Because it's been complicated with this guy for four years.
You have a child that's, you said, about two years old.
That means about three years ago, you got pregnant by a different man.
So you met this guy four years ago.
So were you like seeing him for a year and then y'all broke up?
Give me the timeline.
No, he was my friend.
That you met four years ago.
Yeah.
Okay, how about this?
Prior to you getting pregnant from the other guy, had you had sex with the guy who it's currently complicated with?
No.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
So you met him.
How did you meet him?
The guy you're currently with?
Mutuals.
Mutual people.
So you guys were just friends for four years.
Excuse me.
How many years ago?
For one year.
We weren't like talking all the time.
But you were just friends?
Something like that.
What do you mean?
Something like.
I don't understand.
What do you mean?
Something like that?
Like, you know.
Look, if you fucked him, you fucked him.
Whatever.
I've, huh?
I didn't.
Well, you've fucked him since.
Because you're with him, right?
Um, since, yeah.
Right, because you're okay.
So, okay.
You met him four years ago.
The guy who you who's the father of your most recent kid, the two-year-old, how long were you dating him?
Or with him?
Were you married?
Or ever been married?
Yes.
How many marriages?
One.
Was it with the father of one of your children?
The first child or the second child?
The first.
Okay, you were married to the.
How long were you married to him?
Less than a year.
Less than one year.
Okay.
Does he pay you child support, the first father?
No.
Alimony?
No.
He doesn't pay you any child support?
No.
Do you have custody of your kid?
Yeah, both of them.
Sole custody?
Both of them, yes.
Through the court or informally?
Through the courts.
Okay.
No child support?
From neither.
Interesting.
Okay, so then how long were you dating the father of your second child?
Answer the mic, please.
Sorry.
Mary, can you keep an eye on that?
Before I got pregnant, it was like about a year.
Okay, so you were with him for a year, then you got pregnant, then you.
We broke up when I was pregnant.
Broke up while you're pregnant.
Okay.
I see.
And then when, so, okay.
You were friends with the currently complicated guy.
When did you start seeing, dating, hanging out with, hooking up with current it's complicated guy while you're pregnant?
No.
After, uh, okay, so when?
Like, after my baby, like turned one down, like, right after you're going to be a child.
Okay, so you've been.
The guy it's currently complicated with, you've been seeing him for a year.
About.
About.
But it's complicated.
Have you said I love you to him?
Uh, yes.
Okay.
Um, do you guys live together?
No.
Okay.
When's the last time you saw him?
Yesterday.
Okay, you saw him yesterday.
Why is it complicated?
Because we got a lot of stuff going on.
Like what?
Like stuff.
Like a lot of personal stuff going on.
That's why it's complicated.
Are you guys on again, off again?
We have like a lot of obstacles, so we be feeling like it's not good for us to be in a relationship.
But like you can't stay away from each other again.
It's like one of those.
Okay, so you guys cracked yesterday?
Yeah.
But can't stay away from each other.
Yeah, we're not good for each other.
We're not good for each other, but okay.
Okay.
Complicated.
You've known him for four years.
So, but you've only been intimate, seeing each other for about one year?
Yeah.
Two years?
One.
One year.
Okay.
What's the longest relationship you've ever had?
Like four years.
Sorry, four years, you said?
Yeah.
Four years.
Okay.
All right.
Do you anybody else have kids over here?
Me.
Okay, we'll get to you in just a sec.
Really quick, I just wanted to go around the table.
Proud mama.
Orient.
What's that?
Probably?
No, I said proud mama.
Because she said me.
She said me.
Orientation.
Straight.
Straight.
Pansexual.
Pansexual.
I think.
I think that's what it is.
Fuck.
You're fucking dishwear.
What about you?
I don't know if I want to answer that, to be honest.
I'm kind of confused right now.
But I would say I'm queer, but I don't know if I'm okay with that.
Wait, when you say you're not okay with that, what do you mean?
Like, my whole life, I've been queer and I've like known it.
And I was like, I called myself bisexual for a long time, and I have been with women and stuff.
But like, I feel like recently I've just had a lot of conviction about it.
And I haven't even, like, I don't have attraction to women anymore at all ever since I like started praying about it.
So I don't know.
I'm praying about it.
Oh, you're Christian?
I am Christian.
But you're also a stripper?
Yep, life is paradox.
We'll go.
Okay, we'll move.
How long have you been Christian?
I've been Christian.
I mean, I was raised Christian, so my whole life, but I was like, I was not a believer since I was like the age of 12.
And then I like discovered different religions and kind of did my own research.
And then I came back to Christianity actually like two years ago or a year ago.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah, we can we can jump into some of that.
So queer pansex, or no, you're sorry, you're pansexual, queer, mastivating the label bisexual.
Yeah.
I want to be straight so bad is what I think.
I want to be straight so bad.
You find women attractive.
Yes, indeed. I think...
Have you dated women?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
So.
All right.
Orientation.
I would say bi with the right female.
Okay.
With the right one.
Orientation?
I'm like her.
Like, I started being religious, so I stopped.
I stopped talking to girls.
But you previously had dated or been with women.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm bisexual.
Okay, bi.
And then your relationship status?
Oh, I am single, but if you think I'm talking to you, I probably am.
Wait, sorry, repeat that.
I love that.
I'm single, but if you think we're dating, we probably are.
It's like, I don't have a, I don't, I'm single.
I don't have a girlfriend, but I know a girl who would be very mad if she heard me say that.
Okay, so you're single.
Yeah.
Longest relationship?
10 years.
With a man or a woman?
A man.
10 years.
When did that, how long have you been single for?
So my last relationship I got out of in June because it was like hella toxic.
Crazy, crazy.
And seven, so what?
I think that's seven, eight months or so.
You got out of it?
Was that the 10-year one?
No, that wasn't the 10-year one.
That was like from the November before that to June.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
When did the 10-year one end?
The 10-year one ended like...
Probably what?
Roughly like four years ago?
Four years ago, okay.
Oh, wait.
Yeah.
So this is a high school, like 15, 16 to 25, 26.
Okay.
Who broke up with who?
My ex-husband.
Yeah.
Just one marriage?
Just one marriage.
Like throughout your life.
And you have kids?
I have two assholes, yes.
How old?
One is six and one is four.
I have a girl and a boy.
Okay, and I'm assuming both from your ex-husband.
Vagina.
Oh, yes.
They're going to ask me if it's like a C-section or like through my vaginal area.
Sorry.
What's the question?
No, that was good.
But it's from both of them share the same father.
Oh, yes.
Okay.
But they don't look alike.
Oh, okay.
So maybe share the same father.
No, they do, but they just, I had two of them in different fonts.
Like one's brown, one's white.
Because I like white.
Be like that.
What?
What did yang?
What?
Who asked your ex-husband?
Like you, vanilla.
Like, I like my white.
Vanilla as fuck.
Okay.
White guy.
Easy white shock.
Okay.
Let's see.
Okay, so 10 years.
I like being a white man.
I'm trying to think if there was something else I wanted to ask on this.
Yikes.
What the fuck?
That's so fucking disgusting.
What about you?
I'm engaged and I have two boys.
One is four.
From your fiancé?
No.
Oh, okay.
Two boys?
You've been married before?
No.
Okay.
Are the kids from the same father?
Yes.
Okay.
Business Owner's Complex Custody Situation00:03:07
But now you're dating a different man.
You're engaged to him.
How long have you been with him total?
Four years.
Four years.
Longest relationship?
Seven.
Is that the one with the children?
No.
Okay.
How long was the relationship with the children?
Five.
Five years.
Does he pay you child support?
To find child support.
Financial money paid for the benefit of the children?
I don't understand.
Does he send you money, essentially?
When he feels like it.
Okay, so you don't have a formal court-ordered child support?
We do.
We do.
He just doesn't obey it.
Classic.
What's he do for work?
Well, I don't think it's classic, but what's he do for work?
He is a business owner.
He alleges that he is not a business owner, though.
That he is unemployed.
How long has this been litigated in the court?
For many, many, many years.
I mean, usually they're pretty good.
You would think.
Unless he's really sophisticated in hiding his money.
Or maybe he's a business owner, but you could be a business owner and make like $10K a year or so.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know the details, but what you report.
What's that?
It's all what you report.
You could report really low and accept a lot of cash and just not tell.
Wait, what do you mean?
Like, if you have like a business and it has a lot of cash flow, you can like report like limited amounts.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
But I mean, some businesses are not dealing in cash, so that would be a little bit harder to hide.
But okay.
So I see.
Custody, is it split or you have sole custody?
We have joint custody.
So the kids, the two kids, right, spends, or is it one kid or two kids?
It's two.
They spend some time at the father's house.
Yes.
Okay.
And then going back to you, so you have the two kids, but you're not with the father anymore?
No.
Does he pay you child support?
Nope.
Is there court-ordered child support?
Or you're just not trying to shake him down?
No, I just we had I always had this agreement with him that I wouldn't do like a whole child support thing because as long as he was a good father and a good man to my kids, I wouldn't make him pay child support, but that might change very soon.
Oh, why is that?
Just because I'm literally doing everything on my own.
Like he doesn't help me out with extracurriculars or anything.
It was supposed to be, since we have joint custody, he was supposed to be able to be like, take care of his end, but now I'm paying for his end and my end.
So he's not doing that.
He's not doing as much.
No, he's not doing what he's supposed to do.
I see.
Okay.
And in terms of the custody arrangement, it's not like through the court you guys have handled that informally.
Is that correct?
No, you well, because we're married, so we had to handle it.
Oh, okay.
So it was determined.
The custody arrangement was determined in court.
Yeah, I see.
Okay.
All right.
Well, that's everybody's relationship status.
We need to get through a couple things here.
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Key Takeaways from Psychology00:14:46
There's a couple notes I want to get through.
Then we'll get into the main topics.
We're going to talk about Valentine's Day.
There's some crazy shit going on with Valentine's Day.
That shit's insane.
But yeah.
Okay.
Hold on, single.
All right.
So a couple things here.
Pansexual.
You're pansexual.
So, okay, you're attracted to men, women, and non-binary and transformations.
I'm attracted based off of personalities.
That wouldn't be pansexual.
Demisexual, pansexual.
Pansexual is like you'll fuck men, women, non-binary training.
Yeah, it doesn't matter what they have, but I like them based off of personality.
So maybe I'm both.
Have you been with a non-binary or trans person?
No, not yet.
Okay, I see.
But I would.
All right.
Well, I don't really have much else to say on that.
Who here, who's the psychology?
Was that you?
You studied psychology?
Yeah.
When did you graduate?
2021.
So about four years ago?
Four or five years ago?
Yes.
Okay.
And you had a bachelor's degree in psychology from University of Austin, Houston, Texas.
I was at UT first, but I finished at UT.
But then you went to...
Okay, got it.
Can you relay to me your biggest takeaway from college?
Like from your academic thing, what you learned, not, you know, just from schooling, education.
By schooling?
Yeah, because you could say, well, during college, I met all these cool people, I learned what socialized, but actually what you learned in the classroom.
Yes.
Biggest takeaway?
Well, psychology was always something I was interested in, something I wanted to understand more of myself and others.
But in college, I mostly kind of got into entrepreneurship, and that program specifically helped me with pitching, which is something that I carry on today, every day.
Okay.
Gotcha.
But like in terms of, because you got your degree in psychology, right?
Like relay to us, if you had to impart to us your lessons learned about psychology, what could you relate to us here?
Hmm.
It does take men longer to grow their frontal lobe.
Yeah.
It's true.
It's true.
But I mean, you learned that in psychology or you learned that from like an Instagram post?
It's from psychology, but I think it became something that was like, now everyone just sort of relates to.
But I mean, this almost seems like something you would learn in like freshman intro to psychology.
But you have a bachelor's degree in psychology.
So what I'm looking for is what, like, I'm assuming there's some more like higher level advanced conceptual thing that you learned in psychology that you could relay to us.
Given you have a degree from a decent university.
Yeah, I think it's just, you know, being empathetic to other people, listening to them, and identifying certain mental illnesses or conditions are a little bit sooner.
I don't know.
It just helped me kind of navigate myself through the world and not take certain things too personal.
I'm like, okay, maybe this person's like this way because of the da da da.
Yeah.
So empathy, detecting mental illnesses and communication, yeah.
But like, so, okay, I dropped out of city college.
I am aware of empathy.
I can spot to some degree mental illness and people, and I didn't study psychology, by the way.
So I'm looking for something specifically that you could relate to us in terms of your education that perhaps.
Are you asking for like a fun fact?
Yeah, like a fun fact or because you said big takeaway, right?
Yeah, and this is like.
Well, the big takeaway, could it she mentioned empathy and detecting mental illness, which like those are huge.
Yeah, I feel like you're not.
How much did you spend?
Like, did you have student loans for college?
No, I paid them off.
I had scholarship and then whenever we had to spend it.
How much total was the, you did four years?
I did four years.
How much total?
Well, this is my education.
I got my associates during high school.
Okay.
And then when I went to UT, I did one year there, took a gap year and dropped out, and then went back and finished the two years at UH.
But I'm looking for something.
I mean, when you get your bachelor's degree in psychology, that means you've taken some advanced classes in psychology.
You've taken, I mean, that's your major, right?
So I'm assuming there's some psych principles, psychology principles, given you have a degree from a read people's body language or something like that.
I don't even know if that would be taught in psychology necessarily.
But what is, I mean, I'm assuming you had to take tests and write essays.
Essays, yeah.
So like when you, what can you relate to us in terms of what you learned?
Like, tell us something about him.
Tell us something about him.
I don't know.
How would that be relevant, but okay, I mean, I don't know.
Like we should read him as an individual.
Well, no, it's not vague.
Like you're like, your biggest takeaway from college, I'm like, well, no, from your specific major.
So the subject would be psychology, which was your major.
I would assume if you've majored in psychology, you would be able to relay to us.
I'm not asking for you to like give me, give me everything that you learned in the two, three, four years that you were in college.
Give me like one takeaway from your specific discipline.
One takeaway.
Everybody got something mentally.
You don't need college for that.
The strippers know about that.
But you are, you can like analyze it and understand and like kind of more label it a specific way, like scientifically.
And honestly, I got the degree, but it's not something that I even use anymore.
Unless you apply it to acting now, which kind of helps, but it's not, I'm not going to become like a therapist or a psychiatrist.
Yeah.
I kind of think.
Now, I do think that there are definitely certain disciplines in the universities that are legitimate.
You know, you look at the some of the harder sciences, not harder.
This is a soft science.
Psychology is a soft science.
The hard sciences, you look at math, science, technology, biology, physics, et cetera.
Shout out, Nathan.
You're taking a program like that.
You're taking biology.
You know, that's, okay, what is that leading to?
Okay, if typically, if you're doing biology, you're going to become a doctor.
You're going to go into medicine.
And that has a certain, I guess, well, it's not just a certain, it has a clear-cut value.
But with these soft sciences, you got dance, people majoring in dance, people majoring, which is a step below psychology, I would say.
You know, people, fucking, what is it?
Art history, all this shit.
It's like, I don't know, there's books, I guess.
But part of me thinks college and university is a bit of an adult daycare for a lot of people.
And it seems like a lot of people don't actually learn anything.
And like you said, you have this degree.
It sounds like it's good, though.
You don't have to do that.
I mean, yeah, I have no regrets.
I'm first generation.
I did it for my family.
I finished it.
It's like you don't have any loans, so I guess that's good.
A lot of people graduate with like crippling student loan debt and they're like, okay, I'm not even, then they go into career field if, if even, and then they just aren't even applying the things that they learned, uh, really in the, in terms of their career.
So I think there's a component of university and college that there is an important component where for some career fields you absolutely have to go.
And that's unquestionable.
But a lot of, I don't know, a lot of it just seems like kind of a scam.
I agree.
It's like people don't fuck it.
I don't think it's a scam.
I think it's a lot of people.
I don't think people are going to school for the wrong reason.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
If you know what you want to be, like you want to be a doctor, you've got to go to school for that.
I went into it with, okay, I'm first generation.
I genuinely like this topic.
I love reading about it.
I'm going to finish it.
But later in life, it did not mean like I was going to go into a career with it.
But that doesn't mean it didn't help me build my foundation of what I do now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It just seems like a little.
Just don't go into student depth if you don't really know what you want to do.
Period.
But like, look, I'll be charitable.
You graduated four or five years ago.
People are not going to have full recall of things from even shorter periods of time, one year, two years, three years ago.
But like, for example, is anybody currently in college here?
No.
Currently taking classes.
What are you studying again?
I'm in prereqs for nursing.
Okay, what do you, what's the, are you currently in the class right now?
Yeah, I'm taking online courses, but I'm not.
What are the classes?
Psychology too, and then that's it for this term.
But I'm going to jump into that.
Have you taken a test yet in psychology?
Have you written an essay or anything?
I did.
It's very different teacher to teacher.
I will say some of the classes were so pointless that I couldn't believe it.
I was wasting all my time.
Unfortunately, there are some requirements for nursing that just you have to get through, and then some are very helpful, like anatomy and physiology, biology.
Yeah.
But like psychology, you're currently taking it.
I guess I would ask you, tell me something you've learned in psychology.
Oh, gosh.
That's a great question.
It's so much small stuff.
Body language is a huge one.
You really like learn how to read people being nervous and how they carry themselves and when they're showing insecurities.
But there, so you're taking, is it, what's the title of the class, Intro to Psych or Psych 101?
What is it?
It's Psych 2.
I've got through Psych 1.
Okay, Psych 2.
So they're giving you body language breakdowns?
Yeah.
Okay, so tell me something about reading body language from not just your own observation, but that you've been taught.
I'm going to out myself.
Obviously, fidgeting is an easy one.
But did you know that before the class?
I'd say so, but it can be like such small movements.
And then.
Bro, what are they fucking teaching in college?
That's what I'm saying.
No, I agree.
I agree.
I feel like I'm not arguing with you.
But scam.
When it comes to the body, learn that on a Netflix.
You're not going to let anyone into the hospital to, you know, help with that.
And you're not going to let anyone be a doctor.
But oh my gosh, yeah.
Business degrees drive me insane.
Why would you ever get a business degree?
My sister did that first thing.
Went to college.
Sorority girl.
And I think it was the most pointless thing ever.
Yeah.
I don't know.
If I was the, if I was dictator, here's what I'd do.
Okay.
Here's what I'd do.
All right.
I'd probably keep all the hard sciences.
And in fact, it would be free.
College would be free.
Wow, okay.
But only if you're studying a hard science.
Wow.
I'm either completely getting rid of all the soft science disciplines, completely gone, or I keep them, but there's absolutely zero government subsidy.
So they need to be able to self-fund either through students who are paying for it.
And you can't, we're going to rework how you can get student loans because not everybody should go to college, but completely dis either completely get rid of soft sciences, completely gone.
Look, maybe private institutions can teach that shit.
And if there's demand for it, so be it.
But public systems, absolutely.
No soft sciences, none of this bullshit.
You want the public taxpayers to subsidize your education or even fully pay for it under my perfect utopian rule?
You're going to be studying math, physics, engineering, something like that.
Something that will actually contribute to the benefit of society.
No, we need it.
We need it.
Why do we need it?
We need soft sciences.
I think that's a good idea.
Because then we won't have any empathetic people.
We're just going to have all these robots that know math and physics and make everything all like.
No, we need to go.
We need to find people in hard classes contributing to hard roles in society because there's not enough of them.
I think not enough people brave enough to go into debt for them.
But also, like, we need artists for sure.
There has to be a balance, you know?
But you need artists.
And like, you need healers and government philosophers.
Healers, wait, yes, you do.
You need those people who are emotionally intelligent, not necessarily like logic people.
You need logic people and you also need like people.
Bread and circus.
So, okay.
Bro.
So I agree.
I do think that there is a benefit to the arts and entertainment, but not at the expense of the taxpayer.
So people can pursue these in their private capacity and in a private capacity.
But the taxpayer should not be subsidizing dance classes.
They shouldn't be subsidizing any of that shit.
But what if those make people happy?
So?
Yeah, it's all like medicine.
Yeah, I reject this idea that somehow college, if you're in the soft sciences, that this teaches you to be empathetic.
I completely reject this.
For example, people who are doctors, they typically study biology.
Are you saying that because they're studying a hard science, they're lacking in empathy?
No.
I actually think doctors tend to be quite empathetic.
No.
But, well, yeah, sure, not all of them.
But this idea that it's like black and white.
Oh, well, if you study, if you're in the hard sciences, you are completely devoid of empathy.
I think that that's kind of ridiculous.
Now, maybe there are some liberal arts like philosophy that could be interesting in the sense that we still need people who know like how to think and logic and this sort of thing.
But overwhelmingly, I don't know.
I think a lot of it's just bullshit.
We're subsidizing way too much nonsense.
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And yeah.
I think if you're going into like the arts and theater and whatever, I think you already have a really empathetic mindset.
don't think it's changing you I think it's just and I do agree those classes should exist but I don't think they should be as funded as things like science and nursing and you know law And like the harder to go into, harder to stay in, especially financially, there's so many smart people out there who just can't afford to go to college and they have so much potential.
I don't know.
I think this shit just goes back to the dawn of time, Loki.
The dawn of time.
Like what you're talking about is you're basically saying that like, okay, in your perfect society, there would only be funding for like STEM, pretty much.
And then fuck all the artists and the people who want to pursue music.
They got to pay for that shit on their own, right?
But what I think is, I think that the reason why the artists exist and that there is a job for them is because we made a capitalist society where the people who work in STEM and they, you know, they use their logic all the time.
That's like literally my job.
I see guys all the time, like businessmen or whatever, who they're constantly thinking with, I don't know if it's a left or right side of the brain, whatever.
I'm literally like a therapist to them.
They come to me because they don't have...
At the strip club?
Yeah.
Yeah, they don't have anybody in their life who is just like artistic and expressive and they want to see like something expressive and more like meaning like emotional because they don't experience that.
And so it really just like.
So when you're giving a lap dance, are you talking about like philosophy?
You're talking about Kant and Schopenhauer and stuff like that.
Because I have lap dance.
I mean, honestly, guys are in there for all types of stuff.
Like, yeah, sometimes a dude will literally pay me out and then he will just want me to talk to him the whole night.
Right, but do you, so in order to get a job at the strip club, do you need a college degree?
No.
Okay, so and you're effective at your job?
I would say so.
So, I don't understand the argument here.
Well, it's because...
You're saying society needs these people that fit this...
Well, because what society do we live in?
We live in a capitalist society where you have to make money to get by.
But your argument is, well, I provide the service, but you provide the service absent having the college education and you say you provide it well.
So I don't understand.
My argument has to do with these disciplines and universities are kind of to some degree like non-essential.
They're kind of worthless.
Well, I think that if I had a degree or if I had an education where I could actually like afford to go do dance or theater or whatever, I would have a better job where I wouldn't have to put myself out like that and put myself in danger, like precarious situations with men because I would have paid for college and then I would be able to work somewhere more like than a strip club.
I mean, if you took you were a dance major.
I want to add something.
Yeah, too.
Because, okay, so you know, medicine heals you, yes.
And music can also heal you.
Like, have you ever been in a horrible time and you turn on M ⁇ M and you're like, yeah, I'm feeling this all wavelength.
And now, like, now you're feeling a little bit better now that you listen to that just because it's not a physical like medicine that you're taking doesn't mean it doesn't help you.
I think that's a strong comparison.
Yes, continue.
Well, I just want to continue.
Well, I mean, she was asking me a question, so I'm going to respond.
But so, look, I'm not entirely down playing the pros or benefits of some of the arts, right?
So, of course, I think music for a lot of people, it's something that is very important to them for various reasons.
It could be culturally important.
It could be something that soothes them.
It can be something that entertains them.
I'm not completely dismissed.
I'm not, the way I would structure society is not zero entertainment.
You're just going to be a good machine worker cog in the system.
I'm not saying that.
But what I'm talking about specifically is what the taxpayer should be subsidizing.
And so I'm not dismissing the value that entertainment provides.
As an entertainer, I'm sort of to some degree invested in that.
But entertainment, absolutely, whether it's music, whether it's film, whether it's TV, whether it's podcasting, it provides a value.
I think people can't be 100% productive.
Like, okay, you wake up, you work, and then you work until you go to sleep, and then you sleep, and then you repeat.
No, people need some degree things that soothe them.
And that can be men.
It doesn't even have to be entertaining.
Some people, they go for a walk, they go to the beach, they do a sport, they play video games, whatever, well, video games would be entertaining.
People, entertainment does serve value in society, and that's why oftentimes it is very well, can be at least very well compensated.
But what I'm saying is the taxpayer should not be subsidizing.
But why not?
If it's that important, it's not a why not?
But hold on.
So I don't understand that.
Things, okay, getting pussy is very important.
Should the taxpayer subsidize me getting pussy?
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I don't think those are correct.
No, no, no.
Should the taxpayer be subsidizing?
Hey, there's bigger fish to fry than like the fucking.
I think it'll help.
Hold on.
Your position, I'm testing out your logic.
Your logic is, if it's important, taxpayers should subsidize it.
Not all things that are important should be subsidized by the taxpayer.
I don't think it should be 100%, but I'm saying a lot of money goes into training for that, or it's going to be bad and trash if you know, like, it's not going to be quality.
Most, hold on, some of the best musicians, it's not, they didn't come out of the university systems.
No, for sure.
I mean, some did.
Some were classically trained or they're trained in music or whatever.
They took band in high school, whatever it is.
And I'm not even, I mean, even in high school, there could be some adjustments to the curriculum they teach.
It's probably not even all that.
I don't know if it's expensive to have like a band class in high school.
I'm probably fine with that.
Theater.
Do I just get rid of fucking theater and band?
I don't know.
The fucking theater kids are kind of annoying.
Oh, yeah.
What about all the actors, the future actors that make all your favorite movies?
AI, it's fucking over.
Honestly, within three years, it's fucking over.
AI, everybody's going to be gigafucked with AI, I think.
I mean, some of the shit there was recently, I saw this viral clip on X of it was Brad Pitt fighting Tom Cruise, and it was AI generated.
Riveting.
It looked so fucking real.
I'm telling you.
I hate it.
I actually think a lot of people are going to be out of the job to be honest.
I don't see that.
I'm scared of AI jobs.
Brian, are you scared of that?
Have you streamed the OF models?
Oh, yeah, you guys are coached.
I'm so scared.
I had someone try to sign away my face.
They were like, can we sign you to AI?
No.
No.
I get nervous because I've had customers use my face in AI.
They've come up to me and being like, look at this.
Don't use my face.
Well, I think a lot of disciplines, I mean, I mean, this is like sort of, I don't know if even an existential threat, but I do think that there's going to be massive societal upheaval due to AI because what kind of economic system are you going to be able to have where basically people don't have a job because, well, AI just doesn't work.
So, I mean, I think it's a different thing.
I don't know what society is going to look like 5, 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 years from now.
It's hard to say.
I think, you know, maybe I'm, who knows?
I mean, the entertainment industry maybe has another decade, maybe.
I don't fucking know, though.
Who knows?
You think it's going to be like an apocalypse?
Because didn't Chat GPT like reboot itself or something?
I don't know.
You think we're cooked?
I'm not sure about that.
But I do think, I don't know about like AI being like an actual threat in the sense of the AI would be hostile towards humans.
Right.
But I do think we're going to see massive job replacement.
That's undeniable.
In some areas, yes.
I would hope that we don't go the route of letting AI be an actor.
Imagine how boring movies are going to get.
There is an AI actor.
It's already started.
They're taking out.
People in a call center and replacing it.
That's a completely different form of art.
I think we'll adapt to AI, but it's not going to completely erase now.
They're actually taking away artists to their platform.
But I think as long as there's an AI RB artist out here signed to an actual record label, it's like, how are you going to go to her concerts when she's AI?
Literally.
But sometimes it helps Avichi going to an EDM concert and Avichi's dead, but we can literally go to an EDM concert and watch him on the screen.
On the screen.
Or no, not even screen, like hologram.
It's hologram.
It's like stuff like that.
And you can see a Tupac hologram.
Like, that's amazing to me.
So I guess AI can be beneficial to the entertainment industry.
Cause like, I'm like about a new artist, you know?
Someone like an RB artist, though, it takes more like soul and like more heart.
That's true.
You can't AI.
How you can't AI sensing?
Like as part of the concert performance.
Well, I'll say this: within a year, actually probably already exists.
There's going to be AI music that's definitely better than Bad Bunny.
In a way.
That's for sure.
Oh, the soul of Bad Bunny.
Oh, my God.
The soul.
You're going to get a lot of Bad Bunny music.
My girlfriend.
I got a lot of co-op.
VIP, VIP.
Oh, boy.
Ridiculous.
You will never take away Love Battle.
Holy shit.
You know what?
I wonder when the Beatles, I'm curious, like when the Beatles, they're probably were like the silent generation or I don't know what fucking gen it was.
When the Beatles came out, when I don't know what or some Michael.
I wonder if people were hating on MJ.
Doug.
Like, they all hated on the bottom.
Music was so better.
Probably.
Did you like Kendricks?
But imagine how spoiled people were in like the 80s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, when they're like, man, the music sucks now.
They had no idea what was coming.
No fucking idea.
No fucking idea.
Let me tell you.
It's crazy.
Holy shit.
Like, people didn't like Kendricks, but then.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't think you're going to see an AI Super Bowl.
It was like before Michael Jackson was a little bit more than 100%.
Into the Mike, please.
Into the Mike, please.
Oh, sorry.
I said, before there was Michael Jackson, there was Jackson 5.
I don't think he had any haters.
No, he did.
Because he was black.
Everyone has haters.
Everyone has haters.
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You're not doing it right.
Of course they hated him because he was black, but not because his music was trash.
But they made it about the music because he was black.
Yeah, but that would be, I feel like that's something separate.
I don't know if their criticisms were about the quality of his music.
That would just be racism.
Like, that would just be something else.
I mean, they try to say a lot of things.
People try to be racist about it.
I don't know.
I think, I don't know.
Michael Jackson's another.
I don't know.
I've heard a lot of people.
But like, what's one modern artist that you like now?
I haven't heard you name one.
So literally.
Like 2010s and the hot up.
Yeah.
Like a plastic bag.
Yeah, he's like.
Katie Perry.
You're an old soul, Brian.
You love the oldies.
I feel like there's a lot of current music that I listen to that's pretty good, but it's obviously very different in comparison to like oldies and classics.
But I do listen to a lot of like young artists and people who make stuff on their own, and it's really good.
Yeah.
But it's just different.
Yeah.
Going into a different topic.
Okay, you were late.
What was the deal there?
Tell us why you were late.
Well, sorry, Brian, for being late.
Yeah.
No, really, I am.
I was actually surprised that it was me being late had such an effect because I didn't think that you were, once I let you guys know that I was going to be late, that you would let me be on the show.
So that's why I decided to notify you.
And when you decided to take me on, I was grateful and I tried to get out as soon as possible from work.
So I'm sorry for holding everything up.
But like, it's a Sunday.
Aren't you like self-employed?
I would like to be, but right now I'm working at a resort as an esthetician.
Oh, okay.
So there was like a last minute.
What's the esthetician?
You do makeup or you do nails or facials.
You were late to the whatever podcast because you got a facial?
She was doing that.
She gave the heavy communication.
I had a last minute and it was a mom and a daughter and they were celebrating and I was like, okay, I'm going to do this really fast.
And I actually don't know.
That's cute.
I'm really, I knew who you were.
It worked.
You could have turned them down.
You could have turned them down.
You're right, but as a provider, it is hard to turn people down.
I'm sure it's hard for you guys to turn laptops.
You know what I think is rude about this?
No, I've been saying no to a lot of motherfuckers lately and I'm the turning point.
I'm not turning later.
I've been saying no a lot.
Just one more.
But I mean, I don't understand that.
It's like, when did we book you, by the way?
You did a month ago.
You're right.
And I'm on schedule for a month.
You have.
So it's like, how are you going to?
There's no excuse.
I was just, you know what?
This is kind of a learning experience, you know?
You're 38.
Yes.
Bro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Man, how do you, look, look, A, you're here now, but I feel like if you've made a commitment to be somewhere at a certain time, like, look, someone's 5, 10, 15 minutes late.
That's totally acceptable.
You know, but like an hour late production.
Period.
It's what?
I'm on that time.
It's color people time.
POC time.
Yeah, so it was Mexican.
Yeah, yeah.
Unfortunately.
I'm just teasing.
It wasn't cool, and I'm surprised that you took me to be honest with you.
But what I was saying, I don't understand.
So it's like you could have, it wasn't like an emergency.
Do we have that clear?
Yes, yes.
So it was like you were at work and you were otherwise planning to leave work earlier.
You were cool.
And you were scheduled to leave work earlier and you were aware of the time.
You were supposed to be here.
I was.
But you decided to.
20 lashings.
You know what?
He's getting so angry about this.
He's about to throw his helmet on right now.
I did not.
I thought you were going to say too bad.
Oh, no, no.
Oh, so this is even worse.
So you were contemplating just not even coming.
No, if, well.
We almost got sit up, guys.
No, I was under the impression that you were going to tell me not to come.
And then I was going to be like, oh, okay, that makes sense.
I mean, it's a podcast that millions of people watch.
So I wasn't expecting that my presence was going to be missed, but I'm flattered.
Thank you.
Yeah, but I'm not going to be able to do that.
Thank you for accepting me on late.
No, there's no excuse.
There's really no excuse.
I don't, I just wanted to give a facial to a sweet girl.
Wait, why does that sound like that?
That's so bad.
Yeah, that sounds really bad.
I don't know.
I want to get your mind out of it.
I know he's trying to give a facial to a sweet girl.
I will give a facial to a sweet girl.
No, no, no.
I didn't mean it like that at all.
I was just trying to get it.
Well, right, but I mean, it's like, it's like you have somewhere to be.
You have somewhere to be.
You can deny them service.
There wasn't an emergency.
So it just, that's my confusion.
It's like, also, it's like you're 38.
Like, don't you have, at this age, I'm 36.
At this age, we have a sense of, okay, I've made a commitment.
That age shit don't even matter, bro.
But what you're honest, like you meet some people and it's just like.
Yeah, but no, I think there is a degree of, as you're older, especially if you're from our generation, we're both millennials.
There's a people today are very flaky, and even people our age are very flaky.
But I, at least for me, I grew up in a time, man, I fucking sound like a bad person.
I hate that sort of thing.
No, if I tell somebody I'm a beastworker.
Back in my day.
If I tell somebody I'm a beast somewhere, and I don't know if this has just gone out the fucking window.
No, I'm like that.
I'm a be there.
I'm a be there.
And look, sometimes you're a little late.
Sometimes things happen, but I don't know.
Now we're late.
It's pretty fucking crazy, not gonna lie.
Yes, yes, you're right.
But thank you.
I appreciate it for your flexibility.
All right.
Really?
I'm grateful.
Thank you.
I said, how dare you be late to my school?
No, no, no, no.
There's no tension.
Extra time.
I would have accepted them.
All right.
I mean, I'm sure, like, you deal with, because you do, you're an esthetician, right?
So you have bookings.
So, like, do you ever have people who like no show on you?
Oh, yeah.
Who are late and it just fucks your shit up?
Like, fucks up your.
I don't know if you take, do you take a deposit?
I do.
You take a deposit.
Yeah, as somebody who also, like, I almost feel like you should have some empathy here in the sense that as somebody who works in an industry where you schedule people in to arrive at the time, and if they don't, I mean, it has an impact.
That's why you asked for a deposit.
I almost feel like I need a post.
You got to almost pay me a little bit.
I feel like you got to pay me a little money.
I don't know if you got some cash in your purse.
Maybe, you know what would be fair?
Here's what's fair.
Let's strike a deal.
Let's strike a deal.
I am a forgiving man.
I will completely, I'm very forgiving.
I will forgive your trespass against me, dear.
I will forgive your vile and obscene and egregious trespass against me and the whatever podcast.
I think you ought to, the payments that you received for the facial ought to be transferred to me.
I think that's a fair remedy to our dispute.
What do you think?
No.
What's the deposit?
No, she's not going to ask.
She can answer for herself.
Go ahead.
What's the deposit?
You want a facial?
No, whatever they pay you, you should just give that to me.
The facial?
That would be.
You should take the facial.
I'm asking for some chip right now.
Brian, is everything okay?
Are you financially hurting?
So that would be fair recompense.
Is that the right word?
Recompense?
Let me Google that shit.
No, maybe you should just get a free facial.
No, I don't want that shit.
Recompense.
Why not?
You could use it.
Oh, literally.
I could use it.
Yeah, I don't know.
I was going to get 40.
Very relaxing.
You seem some work on the little redness.
You do a little extraction.
A little redness on the face.
The hydrophobia.
I do.
No, no, no.
I mean, you know, aging is natural.
I'm not trying to insult you or anything.
I'm just saying there's a lot of people.
I've opted to not insult any of you on your looks, but since you guys are there, since you guys have decided to go there, do you have a lip filler?
I do.
Yeah, fucking true.
You can't even tell.
Oh, no.
You can't even tell.
I actually, I love my competition.
You fucking ruined your lips.
Fuck.
Oh, man.
I'm sure that they believe that.
What else do I have, Killer?
Let me see your lips real quick, Brian.
I don't know.
See if you can tell.
Chops.
Absolutely.
I'm getting ready to kick some of you off the show right now.
Oh, be nicer, Brian.
Please give me the boot.
So, look, I'll match energy.
Like, I'm not going to just insult you guys just out of the blue, but I didn't miss your insult, didn't miss your insult.
I wasn't trying to insult you.
I was just excited to work on you.
That's all if you wanted to.
Yeah, I quite clearly stated that.
I nerded out.
I quite clearly stated I'm not interested in receiving your facial services.
But you would never get like a facial?
The deposit's $75.
You would never get like a facial at like a spa or something?
Probably not.
What about like a massage?
Yeah.
You should use them.
It feels good.
I feel like everybody needs that in their life.
Like a good facial massage, yeah.
Circulation, definitely.
Yeah, exactly.
I need them.
For real.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I guess we could do.
Hmm.
I guess we could do a segment here related to the money situation.
We have some sex workers here.
Who has cash on them?
Just curious.
Anybody have cash on them?
You told us not to bring your purses on.
Yeah.
I ain't got no money for you, honey.
You're trying to throw some ones?
I have access.
That's what's going on.
Wait, why are you asking if we got cash?
I'm so confused.
I have cash.
Are you mad at me?
All right.
So we do the segment where, do we just skip it, chat?
Chad, do we skip this?
I don't know.
I'll do it super quick.
All right, oftentimes, women, whether you're sex worker or not, we do have some sex workers here at the table.
You know, OnlyFans, stripping, et cetera.
I like to do this thing where it's a bit of a role reversal.
I'll do it super quick, chat.
Basically, you guys have simps.
Guys will just send you money just for existing.
You're just women.
They'll just give you money.
Who here wants to do the role reversal?
So you have to give me cash.
Nothing?
I don't know.
I don't have any money on MoCash.
I would have loved to make a rain.
Okay, cool.
That's it for that segment.
Well, for that to work, you have to be enamored by the person that you're giving.
You got to have our egos a little bit.
That's what we do.
Yeah, well, that's the point.
It's like people pay me for how I look and how I act or whatever.
And after a while, it's effortless, and it seems like we're not doing anything to earn it.
It's a trip.
There's micro things.
It's called a tribute payment or whatever.
If I had some dollars, I would throw them at you.
Well, no, I don't want to be the money to be thrown at me, but you can hand it to me politely.
But okay.
So I guess that's a no for that, no for that, no for that.
No for that.
Okay.
All right, we're going to get jump into our first topic here.
Actually, you know what?
There's Valentine's, but we need to get into hold on, let me see.
Okay, so most of you here are single, except for two of you, complicated, engaged, single, and then single here.
Are you in the corner?
What does being single actually mean?
So is there a guy in the picture for you?
No, I've been on dates recently, but there's no guy.
Yeah.
And you claim to be, I wish I almost brought this up earlier.
You claim to be a virgin.
Yes.
Right.
And you do OnlyFans?
Yes.
And you're a stripper adjacent.
No, no.
Stripper adjacent.
So the bikini barista.
That's the last shift in a couple days.
But sure.
Right.
Well, you shake your ass at what appears to be a strip club.
I actually just make.
No, it's like a little coffee cart.
No, it's like a little tiny, it's so cute, guys.
It's a pink coffee cart.
It sounds like a Starbucks ochosch local strip.
Exactly.
Like a Hooter Starbucks.
But you do have OnlyFans.
Okay.
And you're a virgin?
Yes.
Okay.
And you're waiting until marriage.
Yes.
I believe you.
Thank you.
She's very sweet.
You're very sweet.
Thank you.
Yeah, I don't even know.
It's been a blur the last year because I actually used to be very against OnlyFans one year ago.
And I've always had these morals and I've always had these, not morals, sorry.
I don't want to, not it's like a, it's a personal preference.
I've always had that personal preference.
But a year ago, I started to wait till marriage.
Okay, go ahead.
And a year ago, I started Bikini Coffee because it's cute, fun, innocent.
I didn't have to do anything I wasn't uncomfortable with.
And I'm just talking to people, like normal conversations.
And I found out how much these women could make on OF and I saw opportunity to set myself up.
And I don't think that's bad.
I want to set myself up to open a business in the future.
I want to set myself up to go to school.
I am helping myself grow.
And that doesn't change that I want to wait till marriage.
Amen.
Okay.
So, I mean, I'm fine.
Well, hold on.
Let me actually pull up my notes on this.
You did date a guy, though, and you wrote your sugar mommy.
It felt like it.
It's hard when you start making good money because it sets the dynamic off.
And that's why I mentioned I won't date a man now who makes less than me.
I'm fine with equal.
I don't care.
But I need a man with some motivation because it was like my ex from high school, and we started talking again.
And I have my own apartment, and it's like he starts, you know, using that.
And he wants to stay over all the time because it's closer to his job.
And I, like, I can afford so much.
And he was in debt, and it's just such a weird dynamic.
I can't do it again.
Okay.
I see.
So you were being a sugar mommy for a guy who you were not sleeping with.
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Oh, my God.
A worse brother.
Now, but so you're waiting until marriage, your claim to be a virgin.
What is the grounding for you wanting to wait until marriage?
What's the reason?
Are you religious?
It didn't come from religion, but I am religious.
How so?
I actually found Christianity on my own, and it was just before I started being a bikini barista, which is ironic.
And I actually get a lot of hate for this, but I prayed for a job and I prayed for financial stability.
And that's the job I got.
God works in mysterious ways.
That's the most retarded shit I've fucking heard, but okay.
Love didn't exist.
So you prayed to God and God directed you into OnlyFans, sex work.
Not OnlyFans, but Bikini Barista.
OnlyFans, I will admit, I think that is relatively on maybe a sinning side, but everyone sins.
And we all get forgiven for our sins, but I do it in the best way I can.
If you look at my Instagram, I post in the best way I can.
If you even go to my content, I'm not doing anything crazy.
I'm not showing myself in sexual activities.
So I post authentic content of me as a person.
She likes to do it.
And if people want to support me, that's up to them.
So are you, just to be clear, are you a virgin?
Yes, I'm a virgin.
Sorry, and are you a Christian?
I am a Christian, yes.
What denomination?
Honestly, it's newer to me.
I got into myself.
She's non-denominational.
She's new to Christianity.
Can you let her, you don't need a quip every time she talks.
It's okay.
Let her talk.
Go ahead.
And I may not know as much as some because I grew up in almost partially anti-religious family.
My dad didn't love religion.
Is somebody humming over here?
Sorry, it's a really is somebody like humming?
What the fuck is that?
It's me.
I was going, mm-hmm.
Sorry.
Can you not do that, please?
Sure, no.
Go ahead.
But yeah, so I, honestly, I'm so proud of myself because I've come so far and I found this on my own.
And I started going to church by myself and I started talking to people there.
And my favorite thing is meeting grandmas there and they're so sweet.
And just learning from people who live their best life.
Yes.
What's the denomination of the church you go to?
Like which one?
Do you go to multiple churches?
No, I just go to one, but I'm moving, so I need to find a new one.
The one you've been going to, what denomination is it?
Honestly, it's Christianity.
And that's...
Is it a Baptist?
Is it...
Is it Protestant?
Is it Catholic?
Is it Presbyterian?
Is it Orthodox?
What's the denomination of the church you go to?
I believe it's Baptist.
You believe it's Baptist?
Okay.
Yes.
It's all newer to me.
I will admit there was a period where I couldn't go because of my work schedule, but I'm doing my best.
And I'm Jesus.
Praise Jesus.
Are you religious?
Yeah.
You're Christian?
I am Christian.
What denomination?
I grew up Catholic, but now I'm non-denominational.
Okay.
All right.
So even before you found Christianity, you always wanted to wait until marriage.
Yeah.
Okay.
Just curious for the women at the table, do you believe her that she's a virgin?
Yes, yeah.
Does anybody?
I believe her.
Yes.
Everybody believes her?
Yes.
Does somebody disbelieve her?
I'll say maybe halfway.
Maybe she's.
Honestly, I get that a lot, especially with the job.
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Maybe she did a little some, some, but not like all the way.
Yeah, I'm not even offended.
I am in the sex industry.
Oh, you're saying she's a voice.
I'm not a virus.
Maybe a little some, some.
A little sexual.
What's the furthest you've gone?
I have given head once in my life, but it was so short.
Well, just they finished too fast.
Was it the hobosexual?
What?
Was it the hobo sexual?
The bum.
No, saying I'm a creature.
The guy who was her mama for?
Damn.
Yeah, but it was only once, and I felt very weird about it because I've made it such a strong part of my personality.
It's hard to feed in.
It's hard to go and do those things because I've just made it such a big part of myself.
Well, a lot of OnlyFans girls lie about their relationship status, you know, their history, sexual history, because it's conducive to making money on OnlyFans by lying about your status.
Now, logically, it is possible that a woman could be on OnlyFans, could be a bikini barista, could have tattoos, could have, do you have breast implants?
Yeah.
Could have breast implants, could have lip filler, could have scars all over her body.
It's logically possible.
It's logically possible.
However, I think it's highly, it's not probable.
And so I think it's probably bullshit, but of course, there's no way for that's okay to think that.
And honestly, I got worried joining the industry before I knew anything about it that I wouldn't make money because people would think I'm too innocent and they wouldn't think my content's good.
And thankfully, I was wrong.
And I actually have been able to use it.
So that's been great.
Because even at the bikini stand, customers would want crazy stories.
I'm like, oh, shoot, I don't know.
And then they were like, no, like, I think it's cool.
And I'm like, really?
You think it's cool?
I noticed in your videos on Instagram, there's a man who frequently films them who has hand tattoos.
Yeah, just mutual friend.
Mutual friend, you live with him?
No, that wasn't the one.
Mutual friend.
So you're friends with a guy who has hand tattoos and he shoots some of your content.
That's not your boyfriend?
No.
Hmm.
Okay.
Yeah, so the reality is to the viewers, I guess, breaking the fourth wall here.
OnlyFans girls frequently lie about their status in various ways.
It's conducive to their bottom line to be single.
It's helpful for them to put forth this appearance of non-involvement with other men, sometimes to the degree of claiming they're virgins.
I think it's dubious.
Of course, perhaps it could be true.
I think it's very unlikely.
But yeah.
You self-harm?
I used to.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Any drug use?
No.
No drug use?
No.
Okay.
What was the self-harm about?
Honestly, just not good mental health in high school.
And I look back at it and it seems very silly because I was so dramatic.
And I forget I have them now until people mention them.
Until you mention them right now.
Completely forgot that that was what was on my arm.
I don't really know what to say about it because I'm not emotional about it anymore.
And I just don't have a great story either.
I did go to the ER once, so it was pretty crazy, but I'm okay.
Just all these factors collectively, all these factors make it very difficult for me to believe that you're actually a virgin.
And that's fine for you to believe.
Again, I work with sex workers.
My friends have stripped.
And I don't take offense if people want to think I've had sex.
That's fine.
I know what I've done.
Do you want to just admit that you're not a virgin?
No, but I am.
So there's no point in admitting I'm not.
So would you be fine, for example, if I were to, I don't know if you post an Instagram story, maybe there's people who know you who are watching.
If I were to do like a call to action to the viewers who might know you and say, hey, has anybody cracked this girl?
Has anybody, has she had sex with anybody?
Maybe an ex-boyfriend is watching.
Maybe somebody who's watching knows a guy who's cracked you.
If I invited them to send me a DM, for example, you'd be fine with us exploring that.
Yeah.
Because it didn't happen.
Exactly.
Okay.
So, I mean, there it is.
Call to action.
If anybody knows this chick and knows she's lying.
There it is.
So if anybody has the intel, feel free to share it.
So, okay.
Episode pricey.
Is anybody else a virgin here at the table?
Nobody?
I'm a born again.
Maybe two.
Yeah, that's a born again.
Yeah, I'm a born-again virgin.
Yeah, I mean, there's no born-again virgin.
Not a real thing.
I haven't had sex in a minute.
That doesn't make you a virgin, but nice try there.
It's a girl you've got in that.
When you feel it, you might think so.
But so, okay, you do consider yourself a Christian.
Like, you're going to church.
Yes, but this next, like, I'm moving and I'm going fully online, and I really want to devote myself to learning more.
So, I mean, your current career is completely incompatible with Christianity.
I actually want to bring up one thing that I remind myself in chapter 7, verse 36 to 50, there's a story.
A prostitute comes forward, and everyone is judging her.
And then Jesus says, Hey, don't judge her.
You all have sinned.
That isn't a Christian granting for allow.
Hold on, hold on.
It's not a Christian granting or allowance for women to be sex workers.
Let me continue.
But you're about to make a justification here.
No, no, no.
Let me continue.
Let me talk.
Go ahead.
And so he forgives her sins and says that if your love and your faith is stronger.
And so I do my best.
I donate money.
I volunteer.
I show love and I show faith.
And that is the best I can do because I'm setting myself up for future.
This world is hard.
It's hard to make good money.
I don't do porn.
I don't strip.
I don't do toy play because that doesn't align for me.
Tell us, as described on your OnlyFans, what you do do.
It's mild.
I show myself and people can admire me.
Well, I have in front of me what you list your, I don't know how to best describe this, your services.
So you do girl-girl content.
So you have sex with women.
Not sex.
I've kissed girls.
Okay, is that compatible with Christianity?
I think so.
Again, I come from Portland.
Completely incompatible with Christianity.
It depends which church.
Well, hold on.
even remove it well okay those are like but yes i think heretical sexual is a sin But you have something for this?
You know what else is a sin?
Is rage baiting?
How am I rage baiting?
Judging is not.
Anyone who watches this show, I love it, but it is rage baiting.
So hold on.
I'm doing an internal critique of your position.
You claim to be a Christian.
I'm agnostic.
I have pro-Christian sentiment in the sense that I think Christianity is good, but I'm agnostic.
I respect it.
I don't have to actually abide by your worldview or like Christian ethics.
But if somebody claims, for example, I eat meat, I'm not a vegan.
But if somebody tells me they're vegan, and by the way, I don't have an issue with other people eating meat.
If somebody tells me they're vegan and I see them eating a hot dog or a hamburger, I'm going to be like, why the fuck are you doing that?
But I don't otherwise have an issue with people eating meat.
But when you self-ID under a category of this category means I behave or act in a certain way or I believe these things, you're not a vegan if you eat meat.
Yep.
So don't call yourself a vegan.
If you're doing sex work and you're a Christian, you're not really a Christian.
No, that's not how that works.
There's so many things that don't line up.
You can't believe in God, though.
You can't believe in God, even though you got to do other things to get to pave your way.
We live in the American plenty of other jobs you can do.
Okay, so you can believe in God, but you're an active defiance of God's word.
Anyone who's lied has sinned.
So why is it so bad that I'm setting myself up with a good future and I live by good morals and I treat people with love and I do the best I can?
How's that relevant?
It is relevant because I live and I try to be a good person.
And a lot of people don't even do that.
That's good.
A lot of people.
That's good, but that's not the granting.
That's not giving you the allowance to then be a participant.
Do you know what the definition of a Christian is?
A Christian is a person who admits their sins and accepts that Jesus Christ died on the cross and paid and paid the ultimate price for our sins so that we could have eternal life.
Yeah, you're Christian in name only then.
No, I think there's a difference between having a relationship with God and also being religious, just because like, you know, those are two separate things, but they can go underneath the same label.
It's like a nun and you.
Right?
Like, you're you, and that's a nun.
She believes in probably way more things than you do within Christianity.
She follows certain traditions.
What makes somebody a Christian?
What makes somebody a Christian is believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that He came and died for our sins.
Now, everybody sins every day, whether it's her sex work or whether if I go and go lie to somebody, everybody sins every day.
So, you know, when the story that she brought up, Jesus also mentioned, you know, like he brought, he told everybody in the crowd, whoever has not committed a sin, pick up a rock and throw it.
Nobody can do that.
So, yeah, you have your own journey.
I'm glad you found Christ and He's going to get you out of your situation at the right timing.
Thank you.
Exactly.
I'm building myself up so that I can do something else comfortably and I can live my best life now.
I wouldn't have been able to fly down on Alaskan.
You know, I paid over $1,000 to be here.
Okay.
But I wouldn't have been able to do that without my job.
I wouldn't have a social media following without my job.
Yeah, but oh my God.
Okay, let me ask you this.
Who here does either OnlyFans or dancing or sex work of some kind?
You, you, you.
I have danced when I was 21.
You do OnlyFans or no, but you're a stripper?
Nope.
Or wait.
Okay, then I got confused.
Are you Christian or no?
No, I'm spiritual.
Okay, but you're Christian.
Indeed.
You ID as Christian.
You ID is Christian.
The question for both of you is: do you think God wants you to be doing sex work?
Oh, I've been waiting for this all day.
Hell no, he doesn't.
No.
Okay.
So God does not want you to be doing sex work.
So you're in defiance of God.
I wouldn't say defiance.
I think.
You are in defiance.
The way.
Is God's word the final authority?
But God didn't tell me to work at Jiffy Lube either.
So.
Right, but I don't know if I thought it was such a strong sign from the world that said, you are hurting other people.
This job is hurting other people and it's making the world a terrible place.
I gotta say something about it.
But I don't get that.
I use the money to help people.
Before I have you come in, so just to be clear, the answer to the question is: do you think God wants you to be doing OnlyFans or sex work or stripping?
My answer is no.
No.
What about for you?
No.
Okay.
What do you think Satan wants?
He wants that.
And that's why.
He wants you to do what?
Well, okay.
Satan wants you to stray away from God.
And what I think is a parallel in my life that I've read in the Bible is the book of Job.
Actually, that man was a very blessed man who followed the Lord closely.
And Satan went to God and he asked him, Hey, this guy, he's only following you because, look, his life is perfect.
And so God said, I'll allow you to test him.
And he allowed Satan to take everything away from him, his family, his health, everything.
And he still followed God.
And so what I think is, I think a lot of strippers or sex workers or whatever that are in this position and can call themselves a Christian, it's not necessarily a defiance of the Lord because I'm not privileged to where I could have any job and go to college and do what I want to do, but I'm choosing to be a stripper and a sex worker.
It's like, this is the job that I can do with my circumstances.
If I have nothing, if I'm homeless, if I have fucking nothing, and this is the job that I could do, that's God allowing Satan to test me to see, well, are you going to let her go in the strip club and think she's all that and spend all her money?
Or is she still going to follow Jesus Christ while she's in there and make it the fuck out and then be blessed with something bigger?
That's what it's going to be.
I also have something to add.
Would it be a sin if these girls per se were working a minimum wage job and getting sexualized at like Burger King?
Because when I worked minimum wage, I actually got sexualized more than when I was a stripper for less pay.
I'm not even Christian.
It basically no sense to me how that could even be possible, but no, that would not be a sin.
I have a question.
So it would be okay if the guys were sexualizing them at like a Burger King, but since they're sexualizing them at something that they would profit from, that makes sense.
Your argument is completely incoherent.
But our experience is never really while getting paid.
Okay, but so yes, women will be sexualized in all sorts of contexts, but that is a third.
You could argue that the person doing it is being sinful, but that wouldn't be a reflection on you.
Okay, no, I was just curious.
Did you have premarital sex, Brian?
I'm not a Christian.
Okay.
But yes.
Why does it bother you so much that we do something with our religion when you aren't even religious?
I don't see how that's at all relevant.
It is because we're having a conversation.
Well, so it's funny to me how I'm not even a Christian, and I'm going harder for Christianity than actual Christians.
I'm here actually defending Christianity because remember, I have pro-Christian sentiment.
I think Christian ethics is good for society.
It's good for the individual.
It's good for culture.
It's good for all of this.
Christianity is the foundation and groundwork for modern civilization.
It's a massive positive force in the world.
However, and I have close friends of mine who are Christian, who are serious Christians, who are true Christians.
And I think that I don't like to see people disrespecting it or tearing it down or speaking incorrectly about Christianity or misrepresenting what the Bible says or what God says.
I don't agree with that.
But so, yeah, and also it's just a, even if you're not a Christian, you can have an understanding of scripture and the Bible.
And essentially, if we're having a conversation and like, again, it goes back to the, are you a vegan, but eat meat thing?
So.
Well, let's consider myself a pescatarian here.
Follow me along here.
This last year, I got really swept into the industry in a couple months because you learn all these things.
It gets exciting.
It's fast money.
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And I started to post more ass photos per se.
I started to post bikini photos at work.
And then I had a voice in my head and I said, this is wrong.
This is not okay.
And I took a step back and I bring clothes to work and I post in shorts when I'm at work.
Or I work on what I post to make it more human and less sex work based.
You still have all those photos.
You didn't take down any photos.
The photos on your Instagram, you have two different Instagrams.
I mean, it's not becoming of a woman who's Christian.
That's your opinion, Brian.
It's not just my opinion.
It's true.
Okay, so I'm going to have to Google.
It's the same as a bathing suit.
I've never showed more than a bathing suit, Brian.
You're in like lingerie on the bottom of the city.
I think you have a misconception about like what being a Christian means.
No, I think you have a misconception and you're not following scripture.
No, it's not about that like at all.
Like sometimes in life, like you're born into circumstances and you can't do anything.
So who's forcing you to post provocative, immodest, revealing photos on your Instagram?
Who's forcing you to be a stripper?
Who's forcing you to be on OnlyFans?
All I'm saying is sometimes if you're born a woman who has nothing and you have no support and no help, that's the first job that's ever existed for a woman.
The first job ever to exist for a woman is to be a prostitute.
That's not true.
Yes, it is freaking true.
Not true.
That is like the caveman job.
So just because, okay, so like rape has been happening for a really long time, is that a justification for you?
I'm not saying it's a justification, Brian.
I'm saying like this is why these things happen and this is how.
Women have, so okay, just to be clear, women who are not sex workers are all broke and destitute.
No, I'm not saying that.
Women who, women who are not sex workers, they're just all broke and they're not it.
They're all homeless.
Is that is that no, no, you're not you're like you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.
Her argument is, oh, what if you don't have another option?
There's other jobs you can do.
There's jobs.
Have you, okay, you try to get a job, dude?
Like, it's so hard to get a job these days.
She literally said she had to pray.
Like, she literally had to rape.
It's hard to get a job here.
It is hard to get a job.
I'm fucking hiring her.
Can I say something?
No, I don't think the average job.
I'm a woman is like for like through pure financial necessity forced into this.
You do it.
So you're saying my life is just like a joke.
Like the literal lived truth.
Literal lived truth.
Oh, that can't happen.
I'm telling you right now.
You're saying you had no other option to be a stripper.
Yes.
That's for a lot of people.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
That's for a lot of people.
To live customers.
I believe the money gap is very different.
I don't think you should go into this industry desperate because it sets you up to put yourself in bad positions.
It definitely does.
I'm thankfully at a point where I'm just making cute little Instagram reels and that's my job and I love it.
And I mean, there is content, but my day-to-day is just Instagram and it's really cool.
I don't think you should go into like what you guys are doing like desperate like you said because I had a friend that was living with me and I was working three jobs minimum wage to make ends meet.
She was living with me and I just told her she needed to get an education or she needed to get a job and she didn't want to do either of those because she wanted to do OnlyFans and she didn't want to, you know, and she wanted to do makeup on OnlyFans and do like sex work on OnlyFans.
But there was literally a McDonald's hiring down the street and she didn't want to do that.
She wanted to do OnlyFans instead.
It's like, if that's not something that you feel is something that you want to do, just be real about it and just say like, look, I want to make my money the way I want to make my money and that's it.
Bartender's Dilemma00:03:57
Don't sit here and be like, oh, well, this and this and this and it's okay because I'm afraid of it.
Sometimes it is the easiest.
That's what she is saying.
That to afford her lifestyle, she wants she got on.
I'm okay with my job.
Yeah, William.
Reading Proverbs 6, 16 to 19.
Yes.
Okay, well, maybe I, from what I understand, 6, 16 to 19 is throwing a flamed or a bullet that's on fire to someone to provoke a reaction.
bro you don't know what the you're talking about maybe i'm wrong but from seven things god detests Mary, can you Google it?
Proverbs 6, 16, 19.
It's the seven things that God hates.
Okay.
Oh, this says six things.
Oh, wait.
Six things the Lord hates.
Seven that are detestable.
Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies, and a person who stirs up conflict into the community.
A person who stirs up conflict?
You could say that's your job right there!
That's your job.
Thank you, William.
Shout out to William Potter.
I love William once again.
You're not Christian.
Thanks for the love.
How many times do I have to repeat it?
So I don't idealize it.
Yeah, exactly.
I know that.
But you just seem so passionate about other people's thoughts.
That's like, imagine if you're not.
Why do you care that I feel like that?
Imagine if we just like pulled up the Quran and the Quran was like, okay, you can't eat beef.
Or sorry, pork.
Thank you.
You can't eat pork.
And then you see me eating pork and you're like, what the fuck, Brian?
I guess you're not a Muslim.
What the fuck?
Your guys' logic is actually dog shit.
That's literally what you're doing to us.
But so, like, what?
That's exactly what you're saying.
You guys are just not following along.
Are you guys not understanding?
So they said, you said you're a Christian.
You're a Christian.
So when you say you're a Christian, that's a sort of a way in which you live your life and you're going to adhere to God's words, to the Christian ethic.
Now, when you're claiming to be a Christian and you're like clearly not adhering to the Christian ethic, that opens up room not only for Christians to criticize you, but non-Christians also because it's like your worldview.
But then you can't do this reversal.
Like, oh, well, Brian, you're not also doing.
It's like, I'm not a Christian.
Okay, that's fine.
Would you feel more comfortable if I went to church every single week, if I read the Bible, if I lived by most of the stuff, but I say, hey, guys, I'm not actually a Christian because there's one thing I don't adhere to.
Is that- would that mean you don't- I'm saying I'm a Christian.
I'm not saying I'm personal.
I feel like just to play Brian's advocate, not Devil.
Brian's advocate.
I feel like what he's saying is like, if you go to, if you're a bartender, right?
Or you go to a job, right?
And you're like, I'm a bartender.
You put in your application and then you lie on the application.
I'm not a bartender.
I've never bartended in my life.
They teach you how to be a bartender, but you're not a bartender until they make you a bartender.
You know what I'm saying?
So until Christianity says that you are Christian by faith, you are not a Christian.
You're just a lot of people.
What's the difference between Christian?
Just blamely believe that Jesus is that he died.
No, but that's what he's saying is that that's what you guys are.
I don't even care what he said.
That can't even credit right in the world.
I mean, look, I don't know.
I'm not a Christian.
He doesn't even like bad bunny, so who cares?
There's like different denominations.
Yeah, he's literally not a Christian telling Christians how to be Christian.
Yeah.
I don't.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
I feel like with his mindset, mansplaining, he's just mansplaining.
He sounds to me like a convicted man.
Different Denominations00:02:20
For her story, this is just where she is in her journey right now.
Yeah, exactly.
That's literally all it is.
You're learning to be the bartender.
The definition.
And I'm not saying, hey, sex work is the best shit ever.
Like, let's all do this.
You know, we got to find some girl.
I'm giving the kitty out for free.
If I could.
I feel like you could get some money to kill it.
I feel like a lot of people have sent nudes.
Like, Brian's probably sent a nude.
But he's, that's his, I guess, okay, no sense if he's not a Christian guy.
No one wants to see him.
But I'm just saying, like, everyone sends.
At least I'm making some money.
Look, kudos to y'all.
Wait, she has a message.
What would require you to stop doing OnlyFans?
Oh, once I can successfully start my business, I'll get my degree, but probably only work a little bit as a nurse because I really want to start a business.
And then that's my long term.
What business do you want to start?
It's a good question.
I'm 19, so I'm debating a lot.
I'd like to have a few incomes, but one would be maybe a wedding venue.
Another would be more like corporate.
I just want a mix of things.
Have you started already?
I've worked on clothing brands, but nothing more substantial because I need to learn more.
Can I give you an idea?
Yeah.
You're going to school for nursing?
Do Botox.
That would be good.
Aesthetics.
Yes.
That would be really good.
Aesthetics.
Yeah, you need the eye for it.
My esthetician, plumped by Emma, guys.
But she's amazing.
She can look at a face and know exactly what it needs.
She plumped your Emma?
That's her.
Sorry, that's her tag.
Plumped by Emma.
I haven't.
I love her with my life.
I love her.
She did.
What?
She's on my business card.
I have my QR code with my only nurse.
Plumped by Emma right there.
So.
I was like, can I get an Emma?
You need an Emma in your life.
Everyone needs an Emma in your life.
She's amazing.
I've never, I'm so, I don't think I need to get lip Botox or anything because I have bigger lips and a bigger mouth.
But like, I've always wanted to get, what is that stuff?
Yeah.
Oh, salmon sperm.
Oh, okay.
That's not what I was to say.
I was to think.
And it's better for you than all the other crap.
Salmon sperm you put in your.
I've never heard of it.
Sometimes they'll draw your own blood to put it back in here.
Yeah, there's a lot of different stuff.
It's interesting for sure.
I feel like it's more sus if you put shit you don't know about in.
Scripture and Interpretation00:14:37
Yeah no, that's all you mean, you know?
If it's true, how do you feel about using men's semen for a face mask?
Oh hell, because a lot of women women do it, women done it women, women done it.
It's also I do it all the time.
Yeah, I just, you know why the fuck you have to.
Sorry for the delay on the TTS guys.
I uh, I stepped away for a moment, but i'll let them come in now.
Sorry guys.
William donated 100 translation 304s.
You are doomed, boomed.
Tell me something I haven't heard.
Can you put that like on the ground or whatever the?
I would be more doomed with minimum wage, literally what is it?
304 William, is like carrying your rent right now.
Go willing a high class.
We have Vector here.
Thank you William, appreciate it.
Thank you, William.
Thank you, Vector.
Vector donated 100.
If only fans was the only job you could find, then your town slash city sucks and the leaders in charge should be held accountable for not doing their jobs.
Pampon die.
It's time to prosecute you.
Ever heard of Sambardino?
I definitely chose the job.
I did not have to do it.
I used to work three jobs.
I used to be in car sales uh, I worked on cars for a while.
That was cool um, but yeah, I don't know.
So I guess back to the uh, back to the topic at hand, though.
So if I could point you towards specific Bible verses, that why said what's that?
Why you're not Christian?
Okay oh, and Why would you give her like advice on her, on her religion, if you're not Christian?
I don't deny that.
So, okay, is the Bible accessible to non-Christians?
Yes.
Can I look at the Bible?
Wait, you guys view it differently.
You said you're agnostic?
It's just like when you were like, you're agnostic, and why would you throw the Quran at you if you weren't Muslim?
You're throwing Christianity at her.
You're not aggressive.
No, that's not what I meant when I referenced the Quran.
That was a criticism of you guys saying, well, Brian, you're technically sinning in XYZ ways because your show is controversial and blah, blah, blah.
That's in contravention of Proverbs 616.
And it's like, so I'm doing an internal critique of her position.
Proceed.
Yeah.
That's okay.
Let's hear it, Brian.
I'm ready.
Not really.
Okay, explain.
Explain.
I'll give an example on how I see it.
It's like, right, I have a friend who's single, been single for years, can't get a man.
I'm not going to ask her for relationship advice, or if she gives it to me, I'm not going to listen to her.
So, okay, here, I'll go back to the vegan example.
Let's say, so I eat meat.
I'm not a vegan.
And somebody's sitting across from me, let's say she's a vegan, and she says, I don't eat any meat.
And then I see her eating a hot dog and I see her eating a steak.
And then I tell her, oh, that's how are you a vegan if you're doing like eating steak and, you know, shrimp and whatever, all this stuff, all of these different kinds of meats.
How is that improper, incorrect?
And then if she tells me, well, actually, as a vegan, it is okay to eat meat.
Now we're, is she correct or am I correct?
I have a question.
Hold on, let her answer.
For one, you have an opinion, and I don't think she said it was good for her to do sex work.
I'm not saying that that is what the Bible says at all.
She didn't assign that at all.
I agree.
That's against.
But what about this?
Let's say I didn't do OnlyFans, right?
Let's say I'm just a normal girl, but I wasn't waiting until marriage.
Let's say I was having premarital sex, still a sin.
Are you going to come on here and be like, you're not a real Christian because you're having premarital sex?
Yeah, probably.
Okay.
There you go.
Let's keep that energy.
Like, keep it strict.
It's everything.
There we go.
It's on the same level with having premarital sex.
But people do that all the time in the question.
So look at that.
Yeah, and they always go to church on Sundays.
There you go.
Yeah, I mean, I think it would be so like, yes, if you're a Christian, yes, God does call people to observe chastity and they should wait until marriage.
But I think there's very, there's different levels in terms of potential, I guess, severity of certain things.
So she's still a Christian.
She still can be a Christian because there are levels to it.
That's not what I'm saying.
I feel like I'm saying, can you guys stop putting words in my mouth here?
I'm not trying to put nothing in your mouth.
You just said that.
You're literally putting words in my mouth.
I ain't trying to put nothing in your man.
Yeah.
Can you guys fucking sorry, bro?
I'm going to start fucking kicking people off.
You guys are being fucking feral.
Like, just chill out a little bit.
So.
Do you want to fucking leave?
You want me to?
Look, if I'm telling you guys to, like, tone it down a little bit.
What do you want me to tone down?
I'm not trying to have it.
You just did a little noise.
Like, I'm like, I'm being uncomfortable.
Trust me, this is toned out.
I can't help it.
Yeah, I get it that you can be more feral than this.
I get it, but I don't need all the, when I'm trying to have a conversation, I'll need all these people jumping in, adding shit that's not necessary.
I don't need that.
So is this like an only talk when spoken?
Be so fucking terrible in the army.
She just fucking can't handle whatever podcast.
But she's going to be disciplined in the fucking military.
You're a gigafuck.
You're going to make it.
You're going to make it three fucking days in boot camp, and you're going to laugh at the drill instructor.
No, that's what I said.
Try not to laugh.
You fucking discharge your fucking ass.
No, no, you're not going to get away from me.
I'm going to lock in.
I'm going to lock in.
Yeah, you're going to lock in.
I'm going to lock in.
They're going to make you.
Bro, literally.
She's saying it out right now.
She's getting smoked right now by Sergeant Brian.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
All right.
So, again, it's just completely.
Look, being a sex worker is incompatible with Christianity.
But just the realistics, it's one of the most profitable industries in the world, and it gives me the potential to get farther in life, not even in sex work, but just investing.
What good does it?
Hold on.
There's literally a script.
Who am I harming?
Hold on.
Hold on.
First off, let me let me.
I think there's a scripture.
I forgot the exact Mary.
Maybe you can Google it for me.
What good is it to gain the world at the cost of your soul?
I'm not selling my soul.
Yes, you are.
No, I'm not.
Sex work is selling your soul.
Well, it's not.
No, this was your argument.
I'm responding to your claim.
Okay.
You were saying, but I'm making so much money and it's really profitable.
Okay, so in the Bible, it says, What good does it gain to gain the world?
So to gain riches and wealth and money at the cost of your soul.
But again, it's premarital sex.
Is that selling my soul?
Is it?
That's what I'm saying.
It could be.
That's what I'm saying.
I feel like at this point, there's so many little things.
I don't understand.
That's a great red herring.
I love that red herring from you, but we're doing a criticism of your specific involvement in sex work.
So you can keep red herring, doing a red herring over to, but premarital sex.
Okay, under Christianity, that's bad too.
What's your point?
Is that there's so many little things to follow that we're not going to be like, no one on the other side of the world.
Hold on.
Being a sex worker is not just like a little oopsie.
I think it's a big deal to you, but I don't think everyone thinks it's a good thing.
It is definitely because I live like a grandma.
Let me ask you a question.
You go to your church, you talk to the priest, pastor, whatever the fuck it is.
You go up to him and you're like, hey, I'm a sex worker.
You think he's going to be like, well, pat you on the head.
Oh, good job.
Good for you.
You're making a lot of money, so it's okay.
He's going to be like, completely, he's going to be like, no, you need to stop.
It's completely incompatible.
I think he'll, I think, it depends.
Yeah, I think he'll pray.
Yeah, he'll pray for you.
I think he'll definitely be a good idea.
Bro, this is why.
They would hope I keep my boundaries.
I think.
Can I ask you a question?
Absolutely.
We're actually.
Why are you not Christian, but you speak a lot of like.
How is that relevant?
I'm just, I just want to know.
I'm very just afraid of you.
Have you had an abortion?
I have had, yes.
Oh, okay.
Well, fuck.
There goes my argument.
I was about to say, I was about to say, if you hadn't had an abortion, if you had not had an abortion, who are you to have an opinion on abortion?
But I guess, how many abortions have you had?
One.
Should we do a check-in, abortion check-in?
How many abortions?
Let's do that.
Go around the table.
How many children have you murdered and aborted?
Let's do that.
Swallowed.
Yeah.
That is not an abortion, but thank you for sharing that you.
But there's a lot of people.
Let men deposit.
Don't even own one.
Have you had an abortion?
No.
Have you had an abortion?
I'm pro-life, but I'm also, I also believe in individual sovereignty.
But no, have you had an abortion?
No, never.
Have you had an abortion?
No.
Abortion?
Yep.
How many?
Two.
Abortion?
Into the mic if you.
No abortions.
All right.
We have a TTS here from Vector.
Wait, I still wanted to know your opinion.
Volta donated $100.
Girl in Chair One, if you are this open about your sin and trying to justify it, you are opening the door for more Christians to slip in their walk with Christ.
Am I wrong?
Let me.
Brian face tanks.
Oh, thank you, Vector.
Appreciate it, man.
No, I actually, I'm glad you said that because I wouldn't recommend OF until you 100% can say this is the most beneficial way to go about my life.
And I'm going to do good with it.
And I know my boundaries with it.
Because I know for a fact I won't be going farther with it.
I won't be doing anything crazy.
I'm going to be proud of everything I do on my Instagram on OF.
I'm going to know exactly how to handle it.
You know what I mean?
Like people go into it and they go crazy and they do full porn with a thousand followers.
And I think that's terrible.
That's that doesn't make sense, but it's a hill crate thing.
Everyone has their own walk.
Everyone has their own path.
I don't do it because I do it.
She is conscious of where she's at.
She knows how this is serving her life where it is right now.
And like she said, she also has a plan in the future to set herself up in a different field.
This is where she's just at right now.
And she's conscious about it and she has her own boundaries, which she has stated.
And yeah.
Question for you.
Through your sex work, through your even bikini barista, do you think you're inducing men into lust?
I like to shut that down.
If they like, if they're married, I don't even feed into it.
I'm not talking about marriage.
Okay, well, I think, to me, it's worse if it's like...
I'm not talking about adultery.
I'm talking about lust.
Okay.
Men need not be married to lust.
Did me standing in lingerie probably induce lust?
I think 100%.
OnlyFans, yes.
I think that's what I'm saying.
Is obviously that or it wouldn't be against Christianity.
In the Bible, is sexual immorality forbidden?
It's yeah, it's frowned upon, but so is lying.
So, okay, yes, people should not lie.
Yeah, there you go.
But people do, and they turn out fine.
Okay, but so the idea here with being a Christian is not to be perfect, but it's a sort of a moving towards being adjacent to what the Bible says.
So, yes, people are going to make mistakes, but you're in just complete, there's a continuity of your behavior.
It's like, okay, oops, I made a mistake, that happens, I fucked up.
But there's a continuity, a continued, what's the best wording here?
A continued defiance of biblical scripture and God's word.
Do you think that scripture is God-breathed?
In a sense.
In a sense?
Yes.
Okay.
Scripture's, in a sense, God-breathed.
I understand what you're saying, but I am working towards getting through school and I'm working towards opening a business.
So I'm not thinking this is long-term.
How is that relevant, though?
Because I am doing it in the moment, but it's not my life plan.
And I know that it's not matching up with my future.
And that's okay.
So, okay, in 2 Timothy, excuse me, 2 Timothy.
Oh my God, I got a lisp all of a sudden.
2 Timothy.
Why can't I say Tim Tim?
You caught it from me, babe.
2 Timothy 3:16, it states, All scripture is inspired by God.
Okay.
So if scripture is God-breathed, then rejecting clear commands is disagreement with God.
Do you disagree with God?
I don't agree that sex work is beneficial to the world.
And I do apologize, but right now, it's what is paying my rent.
It's what puts food on my table.
And yes, I could do another job, but I've worked three jobs and I wouldn't have the potential to go to school for nursing.
I wouldn't have the time.
I just wouldn't.
Okay, but so on what basis do you decide which commands still apply and which ones you get to discard?
My goal is to just show enough love and faith.
And so I treat everyone well.
Okay, well, how about that?
Yes, that's all you can do.
So John 14:15, if you love me, keep my commandments.
Jesus affirmed scripture as binding and rebuked people for nullifying God's commands to suit themselves.
Scripture is very explicit that God's word is authoritative, it's binding, and it's non-negotiable.
So I understand where you're coming from, and I can't change what I do right now.
I just literally could.
I could, but for the goals I have and the timeline I have, and like moving and not going back to three jobs and dropping out of school, right now that's what I want to do.
And it's okay to say that because it's going to be fine, and I'm still a good person.
So okay, yes, you can still be a good person, but look, ultimately, what I'm trying to say here is that.
Should I Stay or Go?00:02:31
Do you want me to stop going to church, Brian?
What?
Brian, do you want me to.
It just seems like it really bothers you that I'm Christian, but I'd like to keep going to church.
So should I drop the title and keep going to church?
You can do whatever you want, but when you're here on the podcast having a discussion about what it means to be a Christian and you're claiming, well, I guess, you know what, God's giving me a pass.
In fact, didn't you say, like, God, God put me in the direction of this?
That's kind of ridiculous.
I prayed for a job.
I prayed for financial stability.
That was just what happened.
What's going on back there, Mary?
Okay.
I mean, kind of early into the show?
Or what's going on?
Okay.
Update them.
So are you coming back to the table or?
Yes, I was trying to get some service.
Okay, we can't really do that.
I'm just confused why she would need to go downstairs.
Like, we're live.
Hi, person.
Hi.
The podcast is going to go for more hours.
Like, I don't know.
What's going on?
Mary?
What?
Can you tell me what's going on?
Why do you need to go down?
She's not getting service.
Bullshit, of course.
There's no service.
Yeah, show Mary.
Show Mary.
Shomeri, the lack of service.
I've got to lock in.
I don't understand.
What are you trying?
Can you?
What are you trying to communicate to the person waiting for you?
The time of wait.
That was disclosed to you before the show.
We are pretty clear about.
I mean, it's pretty clear.
Pretty clear.
Hold on, let me just double-check something right now.
But that's ridiculous, but okay.
I have to fart.
Can I hold my hand?
I've been holding it in so bad.
I've been waiting for her to come back.
You just do a slow exhale of the fart?
Why Christianity Isn't About Money00:03:51
Was that what that was?
You did like a fart?
Like, I don't know if he was mentioning it.
It was a sign.
That was just a pretty thing.
Oh.
Wait, what's your name?
Dippity?
Is that your name?
What's your name?
Sarah Dippity.
Okay.
Okay.
So, no, I'm just trying to figure out what's going on here.
Are you coming back?
Yeah.
I'm coming back.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Sorry.
Sorry, guys.
Sorry, guys.
I guess there's some shit going on behind the scenes.
I don't know where we left off in this discussion.
We won't linger too much longer on this specific topic.
But yeah, ultimately, yeah, what you're doing is sinful.
Sex work is completely incompatible with Christianity.
And yeah, I don't know if there's really anything else to say on that.
I respect your opinion.
That's okay.
It's not an opinion.
It's a fact.
It's an opinion.
It's not an opinion.
It's an opinion.
How is it an opinion?
Part of it.
We have a new Christian arguing with a non-Christian.
Do you believe that somebody could be an atheist biblical scholar?
No.
Like, can you be, I don't understand.
So, so the Bible is available on the internet.
The scripture is available on the internet.
It's a document that's been, it's a book that's been around for thousands of years.
I don't understand your argument.
Oh, I'm just saying, like, we have a new Christian arguing with a non-Christian, so it's kind of just like, I think that's why it's going to blindly lie.
Because I'm not sitting here with someone who's followed God's path their whole life.
How would that matter?
Because I'm talking about relationships.
He doesn't understand this relationship.
I don't see how that's relevant.
Well, again, is scripture, I mean, do I need to quote it to you again?
There's more than that.
It's a relationship with God.
God does not give you an allowance to be a sex worker.
Point blanket.
It's not an allowance.
I'm not arguing that.
I never have.
Every other aspect of my life, I'm going to live it the best way I can and help people and be a good person, but I can't change.
God doesn't give you an allowance to be a sinner either, but we still sin.
It's just what it is, Brian.
I'm sorry.
He knows that we're going to do it.
Yeah, but that's not a granting for Christians to sin, to be active in sin.
Mistakes happen.
People make mistakes.
But as a Christian, you should be on a pathway to stop the ways in which you are sinning.
In this case, you could stop.
There's nothing preventing you from stopping.
But what you see is materialism.
You see big dollar signs.
You see, this makes me more money than a job that would otherwise be available to me.
And so that's the inducement to your sin.
Not some like, you know, people fall, people fail, but your inducement to your sin is through material motivation for making money.
And that's not, that's, you, you can say, look, it's in all instances, it's bad to be to sin.
And we can discuss the different kinds of sin or the different sins that do exist and severity of which ones.
But ultimately, just to make a bit of money, I don't think that that's how Christianity works.
I don't think that my OnlyFans is worse than premarital sex.
I don't think Trump is really much of a Christian.
But he says he's a Christian.
No, Trump isn't.
I think he's probably a...
I don't know.
Maybe if, you know, if he's accepted Christ in his heart, I guess he's a Christian.
Sinful Earnings?00:09:09
Trump is a different brigade.
I mean, I don't know Trump's position on that.
I think he's probably a bit of a nominal Christian, to be honest, but I don't know where his heart is.
But that's a bit of a separate thing.
And also, even if there are other Christians out there who are either hypocritical or they're not walking the correct path, the right path, that doesn't have anything to do with her specific situation, which relates to her active and ongoing willful defiance of God's word.
She's walking everywhere.
Nah, she ain't walking with God.
She is in her way.
She has her own path, her way.
She's doing it the way that God is intending her to do it.
God knows your past, present, and future.
God knows what entails for her.
And he's walking with her the way she need be.
He knows what decision she's going to make before she even makes it.
Can you speak into the mic?
Yeah, so on your OnlyFans, Stella, you describe, hold on.
You describe some of the stuff you do.
All right, let's hear it.
All right.
So in addition to you being the bikini barista and having an OnlyFans and what's the other thing?
I don't know.
Oh, you okay, this is what you're writing on your OnlyFans.
You do girl girl content.
That's a whole nother thing.
That's also an issue.
You do teases, videos, you sell feet pics and videos.
You do degrading degradation and then you do cock ratings.
What is that?
So you're consuming the nude content of the, I guess, men send you photos of their penis and you rate them.
I won't lie to you, Brian.
This has happened before.
No, no, no.
It's not just.
Hold on.
It's not just that.
You literally on your OnlyFans.
You don't have to.
Stop.
I don't need the quips from you.
On your OnlyFans, you include that you do cock ratings.
So men send you photos of their penis and you rate their penises.
Yes.
So it's not just, ooh, I'm doing some little tasteful fucking shit on OF.
Probably you're also scamming the men on OnlyFans too, but that's another conversation to be had.
Because I don't make a sex tape.
What?
Is it?
No, so you probably have a typer or chatter.
No.
Yeah, sure.
So if somebody were to go to your OnlyFans right now and send a message to your OnlyFans, you don't have your phone.
Oh, really?
They can talk to me right now.
Yeah, you probably.
So you have a typer, you have a chatter.
You're probably misrepresenting in that way, I'm assuming.
So, I mean, ultimately, look, there's a whole lot of things here going on, but ultimately, the lustful content on the OnlyFans is completely incompatible with Christianity.
Completely incompatible.
You're doing cock ratings.
Like, bro, it comes down to the fact that there's a lot of sins out there, and I understand that you have an issue with it, even though you're not a Christian, which, okay.
But it just comes down to the fact that that's my job at the moment, and it's going to be my job for maybe a few years, two years, who knows?
And that's just what it is.
And I think you have to accept it, Brian.
Well, I don't have to accept anything, man.
We have some chats coming through.
This came in about four minutes ago.
Sorry for that.
No more donated $100.
Can you pull that up, Mary?
1026 to 31 clearly says you can't just say I'm a Christian and I can keep doing what I want to do even if it's wrong.
It actually says you will be punished worse.
Can you pull that up, Mary, for us?
If I got a sign from God and he's like clearly sent me a sign that you need to quit, I will listen.
You have the fucking Bible.
You don't need a sign from God.
That's the most retarded shit ever.
I've been able to help so many people.
The other day I sold furniture and the chat.
If you're a Christian, you have to wait.
You have to wait.
Up until you get a sign from God, you can sin.
What the fuck, bro?
Okay, pull it up, Mary.
Pull it up.
That's crazy.
Make it bigger, please.
Zoom it in.
Oh, what the f zoom it in?
Scroll down, maybe?
I don't know.
There's a fucking like.
I'm not hurting anyone with my job.
For okay, just leave it.
Yes.
Scroll down.
Wait, is this the right one?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can you read that for us?
Can you read it?
For if we sin willfully, after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, a fiery indignation, which will devour the adverse adversaries.
Thank you.
Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses of how much worse punishment do you suppose will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God on the other side of the world.
That's really the first part that we if anybody do you wear glasses, so this was a calling to you're you're in willful sin.
I understand.
And so here, let's do it like this.
You do acknowledge that what you're doing is sinful.
I do agree that there's sin in it.
I don't think it's to the extent that you feel.
Because I could be making sex tapes.
I could be doing so much more.
Yes, of course you could always do worse, but that's not like, well, I'm not doing something that is as bad as what I could be doing.
Therefore, my less bad behavior is justified because I could be doing worse.
Also, going back to faith and love.
Even from a secular perspective, that's completely incurred.
Well, I'm just bankrupting adults.
I could be bankrupting.
Well, hold on.
Bankrupting as a son.
I'm stealing.
I'm defrauding adults.
I could be defrauding elderly.
It's willing.
I'm not frauding anyone.
No, but I'm, I'm, I'm giving you an example of going back to, I have faith and love and I use my, I use the position that I've been put in to help others.
The other day, this woman was buying furniture from me, and she sent a photo.
She only had $45 in her bank account to buy the furniture.
And I said, that's terrible.
I'm so sorry.
And I gave her $60 and the furniture for free.
What does that have to do with anything?
Because it's me being a good person helping other people, Brian.
And that's what God wants me to do.
Bro, what is going on back there?
Okay.
I think it's just taking accountability at the end of the day.
Like, yes, we are Christian.
Yes, we don't follow faith sometimes, but we're taking accountability and we know we're taking the right steps towards your faith.
So I just think that like for you, it's like, take the, yeah, you, whether it was lying, whether you killed somebody, whether you're fucking somebody for money, it's all the same sin.
Yes, you're doing it.
Take it in as a Christian and then take those steps, like you said, to move forward to not do the things that you're doing right now.
And I'm working towards other stuff.
It's really hard to balance school.
Okay.
Next topic.
It's crazy.
Crazy stuff, guys.
Crazy stuff.
Yeah, ultimately, though, just completely incompatible.
And essentially, you're a Christian in name only.
I would just give you that label.
Well, I felt like it was opposite.
I felt like you didn't want me to call myself a Christian, but I still would go to church and still read the Bible and still try to be able to.
So I mean, what does it mean to be if everything is just up to our own interpretation?
It's not.
I think this is one exception.
It's not an exception.
And I apologize.
When you say exception, what do you mean?
Because I understand and I admit that this is not following Christ's path.
But That doesn't change that I still want to go to church and I still want to be a good person.
Bro, this is why the women will come together in the sisterhood, and it's oh, it's okay.
This is toxic empathy.
This is suicidal empathy, where everything's okay.
Oh, everything's all right.
No, and this is actually why I think there's a lot of failings in certain churches where this shit is just allowed, other things are allowed.
They're just look Christianity has to mean something.
There's a code of Christianity, it's the Bible, it's scripture, and it's authoritative.
God's word is authoritative, it's not up to interpretation, it's not up to you get to negotiate what flies, what doesn't.
And ultimately, look, shit, I don't even know what to say.
We aren't here.
I wish Andrew was here.
I wish Andrew was here because he would fucking demolish this conversation.
Oh my god.
Well, a few other things here, I guess.
Can I say something?
Yeah.
Let me let some chats in before I let you go.
Why Ken Interrupts00:06:13
Hold on.
So, Ken, there you go, Ken.
Thank you, man.
Ken Trot donated $100.
All religions were made up by man people.
The Bible was written by man-people.
Okay.
You know what?
Thank you, John.
Here we go.
$100 bill spent.
I got.
We have one more, and then I know you wanted to come in.
We'll let you give your take here in just a moment.
We have William.
Thank you, Ken.
We have William coming in.
And then get to the super chats once you can after we get this next chat come in.
William donated $100.
Ladies, listen very carefully.
Do not behave conveniently.
You know your wrongdoings and you know what you're doing.
Choice is yours.
Just don't cry online.
Go cry to your mama.
I'm not crying.
Thanks for the $100.
I love my mama.
She's my number one supporter.
She's literally smiling.
I know.
I'm a little bit.
I'm so happy to be here.
I appreciate you guys having me come.
Yeah.
I think you're going to regret it.
And I understand that, especially from an older perspective, and I hear that a lot.
And I've heard that from family.
And I'm at a point where I don't think I will because I, oh, okay, Brian.
And I'm not like trying to, I don't know your background.
I don't know anything about you.
All I'm just saying is.
I regretted it when I was falling into a more hardcore, not even hardcore because it wasn't hardcore, but when I was falling into like, oh my God, money, money, but now that I'm doing it in such a calm way and I understand the industry better, but I do understand your concern and I appreciate your sweetheart.
Close the door.
Question: When you go to church, do you check your phone?
No, I put it away.
Like, but like right before church or right after church, do you check your phone?
I've never thought about that, honestly.
But as a human, I probably don't know.
Have you within an hour before church or an hour after church, have you given a dick rating on your OnlyFans?
I don't think so.
No.
Have you been on your OnlyFans within an hour after church or an hour before church?
Yeah.
Have you ever gone to the bathroom at church and checked your OnlyFans?
No.
It feels wrong.
I don't bring it to the interesting house.
I don't bring it to their.
Do you have something?
Yeah.
I just think you have so much more potential.
And I know I probably sound like so obnoxious right now, but I, you know, maybe I was like, should I wait and just tell her off camera?
I don't want to like embarrass you.
No, it's okay to say that.
Yeah.
But that's why I know that.
And I'm in nursing school.
I know, absolutely.
Yeah.
And I think you should just get a loan.
Don't pay it back.
And just, you know.
Don't pay it.
Sorry, Mary.
You know, but you're so beautiful.
You're so young.
Thank you.
I do, I take it in and I hear you.
And have you ever done sex work?
No.
I don't think you understand the industry fully, and I don't think you can until you have been in it.
And I used to be the biggest hater.
I used to think it was horrible.
I truly did.
I hated on every single person who did OnlyFans.
Once I got into it, I realized how mellow it is.
My schedule is going home early and I keep to myself.
Who the hell can you do?
So, but for the OnlyFans, you're doing like soft core stuff.
Like, so you show your pussy?
No.
Oh, that's a bold question.
For a lot of money.
It's pricey.
But you have.
Yes.
Butthole.
Again, pricey.
Yo, I just, this is unrelated.
Just shout out Jared.
Shout out Jared.
Unrelated to the butthole pussy show stuff.
Vector donated $100.
Thank you, Vector.
Only fans, and by extension, pornography, really harms people.
It is a profession that objectifies people.
When you objectify people, they stop being a whole person.
Just parts.
God loves you, girl.
Well, who made that system popular?
That was a sweet message that thought.
Vector, you seem really sweet.
You seem caring.
And I appreciate it.
Vector, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Thank you for the CTS.
All right, well, that's pretty much all I have for that specific topic.
But I mean, I know you're a stripper.
You say you're a Christian.
I don't know if you wanted to weigh in on anything that we talked about.
Go ahead.
There's just a few pointers that I wanted to make in this discussion because I totally understand where you're coming from, and I totally also understand where Brian's coming from.
And so, like, the first major one that sticks out to me is when Brian asked you, or he said, oh, so point blank, period, like you're living in sin.
This is a sin.
And then you were like, not really.
And then trying to say, oh, it's not that bad.
It could be worse.
At the end of the day, and then you're like, oh, well, I'm not harming anybody.
I kind of have a different perspective on that because I feel like the reason why I need to get out of this industry and I'm literally going to the Army, which is who the fuck wants to go to the Army?
I don't want to fucking go there, but that's what I got to do to get the fuck out of this cycle.
And it's because it does harm people.
Like pornography, sex work, accessibility to objectifying people, like all that, it's so bad for society.
It's making our men weak and it's making like it's just setting off the balance and the relationship between men and women like so bad.
And there's a bigger problem.
Like the fact that you feel like you can't live comfortably like and put yourself through school without doing sex work.
That's a big problem within our fucking economy and our society that like you feel like you need to have that job.
Because like she said, like you could do so much better for yourself.
And so I get where you're coming from with that because I feel the same way.
I'm a smart, I'm a very intelligent, capable person, but like I've had to be degraded down to this job for so long because our society and our economy is fucked and this is where I got in where I fit in.
So that's my piece.
Yeah, and it goes back to Brian wanting to fund school.
So yeah, go Brian.
You know what?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Valentine's Day Confessions00:13:02
Good one.
Good one, guys.
All right.
Yeah, no, look, I guess, anyways, well, I'm just going to move it on, but I appreciate your guys' input on all of that.
I guess we're going to get into some Valentine's Valentine's Day stuff here.
Oh, really quick though, Mary.
Why don't you pull up Twitch?
Why don't you pull up Twitch?
If you want, we'll have you for round two and you can talk to Andrew Wilson.
Oh, gosh.
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At least that's how it should typically be.
So I have the advertisements reduced as far as possible.
So on Twitch, we do rely on prime subs or even regular subs, but honestly, the prime is just look.
You have Amazon Prime, you get the, you want the shipping, you want the whatever, Amazon video, whatever it's called.
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Let me shout you guys out.
Actually, you know what?
Jocelyn.
Yes.
Shout out all those names there on the blue next to the blue.
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Thank you, Scott.
T Mike Gord, double D Zummy Bear.
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Early underscore Apex.
Guys, let me see three more primes.
I'm holding this fucking stream hostage.
Three more primes, two more primes.
Domination, thank you for the prime man.
Really appreciate it.
Yeah, I wish I look.
I'm not an expert in Christianity, but you know, I try to go, I try to, I go hard for Christianity, you know.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet, but maybe one day.
Maybe one day.
Hey, I don't believe.
I'm not there yet.
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Thank you for the sackball.
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Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Okay, Valentine's.
Damn.
So it was fucking Valentine's Day yesterday.
Who had Valentine's going around the table?
Did you have a Valentine's?
No.
Valentine's?
Nothing?
I just worked.
Nope.
Nope.
Yes.
Yes.
No.
Did you have a fiancé?
I guess.
Oh, really quick.
So everybody's single here.
I forgot to ask this.
What does it really mean to be single in 2026?
So do I read it?
Should I read it?
I think I read it.
Okay.
So you can't ask a girl if she's single anymore in the sense that that doesn't mean her answer means nothing.
Her answer does a girl says she's single.
That doesn't mean shit.
She could be fucking three dudes and say she's single, right?
So the reason we ask questions is to derive information.
And originally you asked this 15 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago.
Are you single?
That meant I'm not fucking somebody.
Now you could be single and be fucking one, two, three, four different people.
So I think as a man, and look at this, as a woman, this goes both ways, actually.
It's not just in this way.
Because a guy could say he's single and he could be fucking, he could have 10 bitches.
30 bitches.
True.
50 bitches.
My buddy number is 100 bitches.
So I think here's the question: whether you're a man or woman, instead of asking, are you single?
Because that means nothing.
The answer means nothing.
You have to ask this.
Are you currently, or have you at any time during the applicable or relevant period of time, directly or indirectly engaged in, participated in, maintained, initiated, responded to, or otherwise been involved in any communication, contact, association, interaction,
arrangement, understanding, or relationship of any nature whatsoever with any other male individual or individuals, whether such involvement is characterized as romantic, intimate, sexual, emotional, or otherwise, including, but not limited to, dating, courtship, companionship, repeated or isolated encounters, continued correspondence, or ongoing or intermittent contact, regardless of frequency, duration, or intent.
Can you be asking that on a date?
I want that prompt.
Red aloud.
I need to leave the date.
Copy and paste.
Copy and paste.
You send that on, like a, it could be on a dating app, Instagram.
Twitter is.
That's serious.
Put that on the back of the shirt, and that's where I would say that shit.
Like, how, because look, look, for me, like, I want a woman to give me her undivided attention from the jump.
She should be celibate for like, like, there should be cobwebs in her pussy.
Like, that's how long like I, she can't be dealing with other men, you know?
But ultimately, look, I want a girl who's proper, properly single.
Not some ex in the picture, not some situationship, not it's like putting the self-work and all that and just been chilling, like single, single.
Singles.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
Like properly single.
There's not another guy in the picture.
She's not dating like five, ten other dudes.
Yeah.
Like I don't want that.
You know, and look, if you are that kind of girl, hey, look, I'm not the guy for you.
You're not the girl for me.
It is what it is.
That's totally fine.
But that's why I say like I'm single.
But if you think we're dating, we're dating.
That description right there that you just gave is exactly why I say what I said.
Because, you know, you never know.
Somebody could be thinking that I'm emotionally, physically, applicably, psychologically with them.
And, you know, I don't feel like we're together, but I feel like I'm single.
So that's exactly why I say what I say.
Interesting.
I see.
I see.
Okay.
So who here by that new definition I gave?
Or the question rather, do you are you not single under that definition?
Wait, wait, no, I'm not talking to anyone.
Are we?
Are you not single under the long list that I gave?
Are you not single?
I'm not talking to anyone.
I'm still single.
Yeah.
The list applies to me.
Yeah, the list is single as fuck.
Single aspect.
What about you?
No, I don't drive.
Yeah, I lost my roster before Valentine's Day.
Interesting.
Okay.
That's interesting.
Yeah, that was a roster roster.
Yeah.
I put them all in a group.
So, okay, how about this?
I don't got energy.
When's the last time?
When's the last time you had carnal knowledge for the single women?
Carnal knowledge.
So P and the V, intercourse, sex.
Fucking.
Oh, you can.
Making love.
So I guess starting with you, we'll start with you.
The last time I did that thing was today.
Two weeks before.
I was trying, but it didn't happen.
Two weeks before midnight of this year.
So New Year's.
Yeah, so two weeks before that.
Last time you had Carnal.
You forgot her.
I'm going to really.
Well, she's sort of seen a guy.
Last night.
Last night?
Yeah.
I think it was.
Last night, okay.
Last April.
Oh, like almost a year ago.
Almost a year ago, yeah.
So celibate.
Yeah.
Let's also, hold on.
Also, include Sing the D. Does that reduce the exact, then it would be the same date.
Ling the C. Look in the clip.
Oh, no, I haven't been with a girl like that for like a long time.
All right, she's but not, well, because I don't have like a like an emotional thing when I do that.
Same, you know what I mean?
Like if I'm that's been more recent.
Yeah, if I've done that, if I've done that for you, I'm sorry.
That was simply a transaction.
I feel like it's almost that's almost more intimate.
You think so?
What?
Like bumpy?
Like oral sex?
No, oral sex in some ways can be more almost more than it is.
Yeah, no, yeah.
I kind of agree with you in a way.
For example, like some, well, I guess it goes both ways.
Because you can't turn around.
Huh?
Wait, wait.
You gotta look at it.
You gotta look at it.
Look at it.
Well, I guess what I mean is that, well, this does go both ways.
But what I was about to say was, like, some girls will fuck, but they won't suck dick.
Like, they'll be like, ah, let's wait for the sucking the dick thing.
But then I was like, well, some girls just suck the dick.
And then you don't fuck.
Like, so.
Yeah.
Everybody's different.
Last time you cracked?
Like, January.
Usually I'm celibate.
But like January 31st.
I fucked up.
And I regret it.
Normally you're celibate?
Yeah.
So, okay, before the fuck up, how long had it been?
Probably like a year.
Really?
Yeah.
Come on.
I'm being honest.
I'm being honest.
I would not have a reason to lie because I don't judge either way.
But it's my personal.
Damn, it's long.
No, but my personal preference, I don't like fucking unless we're really damn going unless we're really, really talking.
Okay.
And I have an emotional connection.
I'm panting.
Yeah.
Like, I have to have an emotional connection or else.
Black Mark.
Thank you for the five gifted on Twitch.
Okay.
Wow.
Last time you carnal knowledge and were Sing the D two years ago.
Yes.
Two years?
Yeah.
For both?
Well, no, the second dig, that was September.
I like to dig.
September.
You look like a dig.
Like, he's a jelly like a la.
But actual sex, good sex, and all that.
Wait, wait, wait.
I didn't say anything about good sex.
No, but no, just like if the girl doesn't come, it doesn't count.
No, no, no, no.
Like, I haven't had sex with that in two years.
Two years.
This is my last relationship.
Two years.
Okay.
Well, you're a virgin.
Rebirth.
Okay.
All right.
Born again.
Okay.
I don't know where I was going with that, but wait, you said you're single.
Yeah.
But you fucked a guy last night.
Sure did.
Yeah.
So how does that work?
Explain that.
Because it felt like it.
Valentine's Day, I was feeling romantic.
No, but was it like a guy you just met?
Was it a guy you just met or was it a guy you've been seeing?
No, definitely not a guy I just met.
Well, kind of just met a little bit.
Like met in person?
Yeah.
Oh, it was your first time meeting in person.
Yeah, but we already knew what was going to go on.
We already knew there was the vibes.
How did you meet?
Like a dating app?
The drinks.
It was really nice.
What did you mean?
Dating app?
No, actually, so, oh, I don't know if I could say this, but.
So, anyways, his son actually is an artist online.
And I've seen a post of him and his son on his son's page.
And I was like, oh, that's cute.
So I was flirting with his dad.
I was like, hey, what's your dad's Instagram?
And he sent it to me.
And then I started flirting on his dad's Instagram.
And then he flew down here.
And now, you know, it's like a fancy face.
Oh, you flew down here.
Wait, wait, dad.
He didn't lie down here with me.
Okay.
It's not like that.
Yo, dad's kind of cute.
But his dad was looking good on his videos.
So I was like, I gotta see it through.
He said, I want big dog.
I gotta see it through.
How old is he?
He's what, 50, 60?
40s.
Oh, 40s.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right, so like 20-year age gap because you're 26.
24.
24?
Yeah.
Okay.
His son is like my age.
Around my age.
Yeah.
But his son can't compare.
Like, I wouldn't go for his son.
I would go for it.
Is it Rampage Jackson?
No.
Oh, okay.
Who is that?
He's an ex-MMA fighter.
Now he's like a streamer.
No, no, no.
I like that guy.
He's funny.
Okay, so that's interesting.
But do you see what I'm talking about?
Like, she said she was single.
Y'all remember?
She's single.
Yeah, she's single.
But she's got another man's seed in her currently.
She's single.
No, no seed.
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It was definitely a non-seed thing going in there.
It's okay.
She's single.
Well, the DNA is on you somewhere.
Okay.
The DNA is somewhere on you.
Somewhere.
He didn't come in?
No, not inside.
No, Maybe on your hair or something.
I don't fucking know.
You're in the back.
You want to see?
You want to see?
I'm good.
Yeah, actually, let me bust out the hey, wait.
New segment, blacklight.
We got to see.
No.
No.
Blacklight?
That's crazy, yeah.
Blacklight?
You better be telling the truth.
What?
Well, I mean, blacklight.
She's in the shower, y'all.
It's like for sure.
I mean, we're not going to blacklight her vagina.
Like, let's go see if there's any semen in the house.
I should do a hymen check on this girl.
Shit.
What the fuck?
Oh, me?
Oh, my God.
That was a joke.
That one didn't land.
She was saying, do a blacklight check on her pussy and then, okay, never mind.
Tomatoes.
Hyman check.
Virgin.
Too loud.
Too far.
You can't land them all, I guess.
Shit.
Actually, you know, that'd be fucking hilarious.
Go to a.
But wouldn't blacklight show other things too?
Yeah.
Like other stains?
But I think I should do a series where I go to women's houses.
Oh.
No, but women are.
Is this so weird?
I'm like, what do you go to the guy's house?
What are you going to do at these women at the guy's houses?
Yeah, women fuck at the guy's house typically.
And you want to, no?
Shit, I don't know.
We should go to both.
The homosexuals.
Go to a woman's house.
I have no idea.
Shine the black light.
And then go to a guy's house.
You ever went on a date and you went to the female's house and her house was just straight up dirty?
Yeah.
What did you do after that?
Like this?
Have I had that experience?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I never knew that.
No, there's some white girls that got a trashy room.
I know.
I used to scrub their tubs.
I actually, I'll go to a girl's place and it'll be like actually in really good shape and I'll still tell her it's all fucked up.
I'll be like, your spot is all fucked up.
I believe you.
You're a rage baiter.
Yeah.
That's actually what I do.
Damn.
It's like, wow, it's kind of messy in here and there.
He's like, what do you remember?
The last time you wiped it.
I'm like pulling back the furniture.
I'm like, yo, you fucked up.
That's crazy.
Okay, so I don't know.
It's just shit.
She's single, but she cracked yesterday, you know?
I wish I could have cracked yesterday.
And I don't regret it.
Shit.
Somebody father.
Somebody father.
Somebody's daddy got cracked last night.
Somebody's never got fucked.
Okay, so let's see here.
I guess Valentine's though, nobody had a, uh, you had a Valentine then, I guess.
Yes.
Yeah, you fucking drop it.
Took you to dinner and did that.
But those of you, some of you have had boyfriends, and I'm sure you, you know, had the Valentine, maybe had the Valentine experience with your boyfriend.
I think Valentine is kind of whack, to be honest.
Valentine's Day is kind of whack.
Do you think it's uh if the guy doesn't do anything for Valentine's Day, is that like a breakup?
Yes.
Oh, yeah, is that a dump?
Yeah, it depends.
What do you mean by that?
Depends on your situation.
Oh, if you're dating, it's like he's just like, like, let's say you hang out with him, and he's just like, oh, hey, Valentine's Day, cool.
We're doing what we've done like hundreds of times.
We're hanging out.
We're just going to do our normal thing.
If you want a little effort, man.
Yep.
I don't know.
Yeah, but so we agreed on that.
Some women have tastes and they like low effort.
I want effort year-round, not just Valentine's Day.
I want to say that.
It should be Valentine's Day like every day, to be honest.
If you're with the person you love, it should be Valentine's Day every day.
What does that mean?
Though fucking.
Just fuck.
Honestly, that's what it is with Valentine's Day system.
You only fuck on Valentine's Day.
Probably if I was married again.
I'll take a good paragraph.
Like if I was with someone, they just sent me, like, wrote me a note, something personal, because I can buy stuff.
You know, I don't need a materialistic stuff.
No, I want you to write an essay with your tongue into my vagina if that's the case.
I'm not doing that.
What the hell, excuse me?
We're not doing that.
What the hell?
I don't want no paragraph.
Boy, you better get out of here.
What is the expectation, though, on Valentine's Day?
It seems like there's only an expectation on men.
Do you guys agree with that?
Yes.
No, the women got to give up that good good.
What?
Get up.
Why would you film sex like that?
That's so weird.
Well, that word is a good idea.
I mean, I would want to, I would expect anyways.
Yes, you want that person on Valentine's.
You should want to give it to them.
You're already fucking not.
I hope it's expected by both parties.
Shit.
Well, yeah, sure.
It could be like a day for you guys to do what you do on other days.
I think the women could do better on Valentine's Day.
What do you mean, do better?
They can do more like the men do.
No, no, not sexually.
Just in general, celebrating the holiday in a sense.
They can do more like the men do.
But like equally.
It should be mutual.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I think there is an expectation almost exclusively on men.
Where did it originate from, though?
Do you know?
Well, I believe it's.
Because maybe that will give us some more answers.
Well, the current iteration of Valentine's Day is much of the push has been captured by corporations and consumerism.
Hallmark, Debeers.
They did this huge push.
Now, Valentine's Day did exist prior to its current sort of consumerist, corporatist manifestation, but and I think it goes back like hundreds of like hundreds.
They do that with wedding rings too, right?
Diamonds.
Yeah, but I mean, I used to work at like a bigger one.
So you were saying though, so what I guess what are you trying to get at?
Like, what's like, well, where did Valentine's Day really originate from?
Like, why is it that men are the ones doing the most for the women on Valentine's Day and not vice versa or equally?
I'm just as, yeah, I'm just as confused.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, maybe you look it up because I don't know that.
It is just what it is.
Why do we got it?
I think it's because men like it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Allow men to be men.
Like, I know they like boiling girl out of the way for it.
I literally like that stuff.
They like to feel like they can provide for their women and they like to feel like they're on top.
So I don't know.
I feel like that's how you're going to be able to do that.
You need to find the partner that matches.
If you want a girl to get you chocolates, you find a girl to get you chocolates.
Yeah, well, I just don't care.
I don't really care about Valentine's Day, period.
Then find a partner who doesn't care.
Yeah, but I think there does, generally speaking, for most women, there is this expectation on men to do something, whether performative or actually really thoughtful on Valentine's Day that goes in one direction.
Men have to do something.
There isn't really an expectation in most dynamics for the woman to really do anything.
And so if we as a society are going to demand that we need equality and equality is going to be this virtue and this value that we want to uphold over other things, I guess.
It seems like, you know, women should start paying for first dates.
I think you should do a protest.
And you should dress up.
You should dress up as Cupid with a bow and have a parade and protest.
I think that will go very well.
Very well.
I think that's a strong statement there, Brian.
And if you want a woman who pays for the first date, you find a woman who pays for the first date.
I'm strong on that.
I want women who I want, and I will find a partner who wants to do those things because that's how you do it.
You don't force someone to do that.
There's girls out there that will give you princes for sure.
There's things where it's like, I set my stuff that I want from a partner.
And then if they don't match it, it's like, that's okay.
That's totally cool.
They don't need to argue to change it because that's just my preference.
Yeah, so understand like all people can have their preferences.
I agree with you on that.
But I'm more interested in having like a sort of bird's eye view.
Let's say we're looking down at the chessboard of society, the chessboard of culture, the chessboard of the dating marketplace.
And we're having a conversation about not just like acknowledging that people have different preferences, people can have preferences, but like actually examining the reasons for why certain dynamics exist and why there's a tendency towards certain kinds of dynamics.
So it's like, okay, why should men pay?
That's what I'm curious about.
I mean, but first, I think with Valentine's, why should men typically be the ones doing these things on Valentine's Day?
Why?
That's what I'm looking for.
Well, you're only, you only do what you're shown.
So it's really all that what comes from your household.
Like for me, an example, I have my parents, my mother, my father.
He don't skip a beat.
He gets her flowers every time.
Even him being far away, he makes sure that she gets all the princess treatment.
And not only does he do it for her, he did it for all me and my sisters growing up.
So, you know, you do.
Yeah, I acknowledge that there are guys who are doing the chivalry thing, who are doing, you know, those sorts of demonstrations or shows.
But I'm looking at like, why should men do it?
Why?
I feel like it goes back to the dawn of time.
You know, it's like hunters and gatherers, right?
Your man is the hunter.
He's the strong one.
He provides.
And the woman is the gatherer.
And she's the spiritual and emotional like connection for you to be able to provide.
She's taking care of the household.
Yeah.
So if you are taking care of me and showing me love and showing me affection, I can do the same for you.
You are my example.
You are my leader.
I follow you.
I follow suit.
So if I can follow you through Valentine's Day or Christmas or whatever it is, I'm going to follow you because I am a follower to my man.
He is my leader.
I agree.
I'm a traditionalist in a lot of ways.
No.
Okay.
And I think emotionally, like women are a lot more in tune.
And so I am.
You're not trad.
Clearly, I'm waiting till, well, I'm waiting till marriage.
That's pretty trad.
Oh my God.
See, now it's in that.
Wait, wait.
So Christianity is one thing.
But now you're talking about trad.
yeah you're set now it's like i told you christianity i came into that only like a year ago um But can I finish my sex worker, OnlyFans girl who does like lesbian photo shoots and you show your pussy and your buttons.
That's insane.
And you rate dudes' dicks.
Life's insane.
Fucking trad.
But you're not trend.
In a lot of ways.
I am.
No, it doesn't.
Let me explain what I was thinking.
Let me just get back to where I was.
She's a trad sex worker.
All right, go ahead.
Do you bleach your butthole before you do it?
Uh no, and so didn't okay.
So women are a lot more emotionally in tune.
Sorry, um and uh, for a man to express emotional stuff.
It means more, it just means more, and we need that as women, to feel safe and secure in a relationship, and so I think that's why we set it up where We have a man present, that and it will make the woman feel safe and it'll be a big gesture.
But with women, we do it all the time because we're very emotional.
That's like all good for like general stuff.
But like for Valentine's Day, I think girls can also get some stuff.
I mean, I yesterday, I did give my man a little something.
Besides that.
Yeah.
I think we already do that.
At least like for me, I don't know.
Even with friends, I'm like, I want to get you stuffed.
I feel like low-key, like all this shit, like Valentine's Day is very case by case because you can't just like cookie cutter a relationship and say, oh, well, a guy is responsible for this part and the girl is responsible for this.
Like between two people, that is a very like intimate and like if they want to celebrate however they want to do.
Like me personally, I think if I settled down with a man, like I wouldn't really give a fuck if he was like giving me flowers and giving me all this shit.
Because honestly, I feel like that's a really commercialized shit.
But then when you see another girl.
Wait, I'm almost done talking.
Hold on, hold on.
Okay.
Because it's just like so shoved in our face.
Like every holiday is all about consumerism now.
And honestly, I'd rather like the person I'm dating like show me that they love me in their love language consistently than like show out like on one day a year.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
So say you're in an area, right?
Everyone's celebrating.
You see another girl and she's obviously getting blessed with all these flowers and everything like that.
And then there's your guy standing right next to you not doing shit for you.
And you're not going to look at him like, damn, like, you're not going to do that.
Well, yeah, that's it.
He's a joke.
You just accepted that man.
Yeah.
That is the love that you're accepting.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like, it's not, it's one day, bro.
You got to think about the whole, like, your whole relationship.
I feel like a lot of couples like break up and have issues on Valentine's because they're bottling all this shit and they're not like saving up for it.
You know, and then they wait till Valentine's like, oh, even get me nothing.
No, if you're treating me good every single day, then I'm not going to mind Valentine's.
You don't have bigger flowers.
I refer flowers.
I think that's matter, though.
And you're treating me good all the time.
Like, if it's Valentine's Day, I don't care.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Can we say that about, like, let's say you're dating a chick and I mean, you can just say that about, I don't know, something trad.
Like, okay, your girl is not submissive and she's 50-50 and she wants to negotiate everything in the relationship and she's quarrelsome.
And then you see a man with another woman and that woman is submissive and she follows his leadership and she brings him peace and she doesn't quarrel.
So it's like, okay.
I mean, I mean, it sounds like the first relationship might not be good or that might just be what they want, but the second relationship sounds a lot better.
It sounds like they're a better partnership.
You have to find your master's.
I got a maturity.
Actually, let's stick on Valentine's Mary.
We're going to pull up a couple things.
Why don't we start with the Valentine's stuff, Mary?
We'll pull up, there's like a tweet and then a video that we'll watch really quick.
The video can just be on window tab because there's no audio for it.
Yeah, let's do the tweet first.
So Denny's.
Oh.
Yeah, let's do Denny's first and then we'll do the video.
And just expand the video after the Denny's tweet.
It's the tweet that you just pulled up.
But go to the Denny's one first.
All right.
So Denny's said some retarded shit.
We love you, but do not bring your girl here today.
So it's like, why?
Why the fuck is this slop restaurant?
Women's Leverage in Dating00:16:15
By the way, why is it there?
There's an implication there that the man is bringing the woman to Denny's.
Why is it the man?
Why the man has to do something on Valentine's Day?
And it's like, that's such an I don't know.
That's a fucking L. Only the side chicks go to Denny's.
Yep.
That's for the day before and the day after.
Our establishment is not good enough for a Valentine's Day.
I mean, shit, maybe McDonald's and gotta also do something like that.
But Denny's only like an after-the-club thing.
Yeah.
After a homecoming.
I'm sorry, after homecoming.
It's crazy.
Wait, guys, guys, one at a time, please.
Go ahead, Mary.
There's an S Pierce in your video.
No, It's the video in the tweet.
You had it pulled up originally.
That video window tab.
We don't need video tab.
So this was crazy.
I saw this, and it's like romance is dead.
Tradition is dead.
Doing all that simp shit, dead.
And this is going to tie into your train story.
Go ahead, pull it up.
All right, start from the beginning.
Play it.
All right.
Told the men I'm dating it's Valentine's men, plural.
It's Valentine's Day.
Wait, sorry, go back really quick.
Go back, go back.
I didn't read the whole thing.
Let's see what time the flowers arrive.
Okay, play it.
All right.
Doctor from Hinge, 9:45 a.m.
Crypto Trader Met in the Wild.
Self-employed from Raya.
Damn, she's got money.
Finance, bro.
She's got like seven dudes.
I don't know what this one does between jobs.
Well, some guys are.
So all these men sent her that she's dating multiple men.
She's on Raya, the dating app.
Raya, pretty popular dating app.
I guess she lives.
I'm assuming she lives in LA.
Happy Valentine's Day.
And it's like, why the fuck?
You can let it.
Actually, no, that's fine.
Me looking at that as a man, that's fucking bullshit.
That's fucking doggy.
Some men like to compete and they see a prize woman and they're like, oh, I'm going to get, like, I'm not saying it's right or good.
That's simple.
Some men.
They can have her.
They can share her.
What is Raya?
It is Shinner.
It's a dating app.
I love Shinzo.
So it's a good marketing strategy to get women on the app is what it is.
Yeah.
It's not that it's real.
It's just a good marketing advertisement.
Yeah.
Whoever was behind the scheme did their thing because girls are going to be like, oh, yeah, I want all of that.
I want this and that by this time and that time.
Like, if I seen that ad, I'd be like, okay, probably.
But you have to make a certain amount of time.
That's not an advertisement.
That girl is not a good idea.
Oh, it's not an advertisement.
That's so much work that you're doing.
But you said Raya is an app.
We're like, date, like 10 dudes at a time.
So it's so much work.
For some flowers.
Why is she talking about Raya, the app, if it wasn't important?
She's just, oh my God.
Right.
Which will get women to get onto the app, which is why she mentioned the name Raya.
Because we're now talking about Raya.
Are we now doing an advertisement?
Raya pay up.
Fuck it.
I guess we are.
I guess it checks.
Shout out, Raya.
It's a non-intentional type of advertising.
didn't do that video for the purpose of advertising for raya it was just i think she did it because she was advertising what is happening she did it because she was advertising the fact that she was getting all these things from different men And one, I do not think that is right.
If you are dating, that's okay.
That's cool.
Kosher.
But if you're trying to date to be with a single person, advertising how many, because a lot of women and men do this, like, oh, on my birthday, I got this from this guy, this from this guy, this from this guy.
So you're really not trying to find love.
You're just trying to get your coachie age.
You're a trick.
Yeah, you're a trick.
Like, she's a trick.
Like, I don't know.
She's out there.
She pimped.
Yeah, no, she pimping.
She pimped their trick.
This idea, but this idea in terms of like, why should men do this?
Why should men do all this shit on Valentine's Day?
Like, that's completely ridiculous as a man that you would do, like, do the flower thing.
And she's getting flowers from other men.
It's totally cuck.
It's totally simp.
It's totally, I mean, maybe they don't know.
Maybe those guys don't know that they're getting played, but that's crazy.
Getting flowers from multiple men.
That's a huge L for all those guys.
Chud life.
I mean, some guys give flowers to people that are not even dating.
For an example, I rented a car and the car guy brought me flowers this morning.
I'd never met him in my life.
Yikes, that's an L.
So this is an example of a man-eater, but not tribe, like not a traditional woman.
I think a traditional woman is going to follow her man, be loyal to her man, support her man, build her man up, and make him successful.
My standard is, and I think the standard for men should be, a woman gets nothing, nothing, unless she's your girl.
She doesn't get a date.
She doesn't get dinner.
If a woman isn't your girl, nothing.
Okay, right.
End of conversation.
I have a question for you.
No, you disagree?
You disagree?
Well, how well did it go for that really nice guy who took you on a day trip, who paid for the train tickets for both of you, who bought you dinner, who took you to the aquarium, paid tickets for the aquarium?
He got to experience me.
Oh, my God.
He got to go on a cool date with me and have that story.
Can I ask a question?
Yeah, but what I'm saying is that even when men...
he wanted to but what i'm saying is even when men do all that effort that that isn't uh by the way just to be clear i'm not saying that men are if a man does do all those things he's not he's not owed anything But what I am trying to convey is that even when men do do these things, it seems to me like women don't really appreciate them.
You said the guy did nothing wrong on the date.
You said he was nice.
Why would I look?
You met him in person, you saw him in person, but then you went on the date anyways.
So you're kind of leading him on a little bit.
You went on the date anyways just because, well, fuck it.
I'm not doing anything else.
but he clearly had romantic interest in you.
So it's like, I mean. To give it a try.
And that's why we had that conversation.
You said you weren't attracted to him, though, like physically.
You talked to him for two hours when you met him in the bar.
Did you know in the bar that you were not attracted to him?
I really appreciated his actions and his effort.
And that's why I gave him a chance.
This is what I'm talking about.
Women don't reward effort and all this shit.
Women reward maximized attractiveness.
So if you're maximally attractive, women will just fuck.
Women will give you the pussy.
Yes, they will.
There are so many different women with ugly women with ugly.
Hello.
Bro, this is why.
This is why.
Look, if we were living in the 1950s, maybe it makes sense to do the courtship thing in the 1950s, 60s, 70s, whatever.
We live in a different social order, social climate, dating landscape, dating hellscape.
Effort means nothing to women now.
That's why you put in minimal effort.
She just really likes you.
She fucks with you.
Then she's your girlfriend.
Then you can show her that treatment.
Until then, you're in the streets.
You're not getting any of that shit until you're my girl.
That's the event.
I have a question.
I think, are you in a relationship?
Do you have a girl?
How would that be relevant?
I don't really share it just for privacy reasons.
But here, just for, let's say, I'm single.
Let's say that.
Let's say I'm single.
Oh, okay.
Well, I just wanted to know, like, if that's how your relationship, like, if that worked for you already.
I think it's okay to think the way that you're thinking and expect that.
Like, don't you, wait, don't you have like, you have two kids?
Yeah.
From different baby daddies?
Yeah.
How's how you've been doing things worked out so far?
And it's, you've been dealing with a guy for at least a year.
You say, I mean, you've known him for four years.
You say it's complicated.
You currently, you already have two kids from two different fathers.
I do.
I mean, shit, it doesn't seem like whatever you're doing is working either.
If we're just going to do a criticism of lack of lack of current relationships occurring.
No, that's not what I said.
I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.
I was asking from your example that you gave, where you were like, oh, I think guys should do this.
I just wanted to know from your experience if you'd done it and if it worked.
I don't know if it did.
All the time.
I'm very.
That's why you shoot your shot.
See where it goes.
I mean, yeah, look, I've done high effort.
I've done low effort.
And truthfully, if a girl really likes you, you have to do fucking nothing.
No.
Bro, girls will, you can do the most for a chick.
And it's if she's not into you, it doesn't fucking matter.
And you can do fucking stuff.
I agree with you.
But if she really fucking likes you, you can be broke.
You can be homeless even.
That's her type.
And she will be down for years.
When you know, you know.
That's what I've been saying.
And that's my year.
Guys in 2026 or even the past 10, 20, 30 years can do the courtship thing, can do everything that society and women tell you.
This is what you have to do to be a gentleman.
You got to take women out on dates.
You got to pay for the date.
You got to be chivalrous.
You got to open car drawers.
You got to be a perfect gentleman.
Here's what happens.
I guarantee you this happens all the fucking time.
A girl goes on a date with a guy and he does everything right.
Nothing wrong.
Everything right.
But maybe she's just not quite that into him.
Or she didn't feel the click.
She didn't feel the connection.
She didn't feel the vibe, the chemistry, the electricity, the lightning, the butterflies.
You have to be on the same hand.
Hold on, hold on.
She did not feel that.
And what she'll do after a guy takes her on the most gentlemanly, courteous, courtship, chivalrous date ever.
And he takes her to a $300 steak restaurant.
She eats her food, but she doesn't finish it all.
She gets a to-go bag.
And then when she gives the guy the ass out hug at the end of the night, oh, it's nice, ass-out hug.
I've never heard of that one.
And then, and then the date ends at 8 p.m.
The date ends 8 p.m., 9 p.m.
And then she goes to her fuck buddy's house, who she's fucking, and he never had to do that shit.
And she fucks him.
And then gives him tough.
You heard this thing?
That's a trick.
That's not a trick.
That's a trick.
Yeah, that's her pain trick.
And I have never done well.
You're dating a woman that's not on the same level of what you want because there are women out there that will like only focus on one person at a time.
They don't do that.
That's a loser assumption.
Women at the table have this experience.
Maybe not exactly as described, but you've definitely had the experience.
You go on a date with a guy.
Maybe it's and then later that night, or even before you go on the date, or maybe the next day, some other guy is fucking balls deep in you, and he never had to do any of that shit.
Not me, personally.
That's just the guy you're high standing.
I have no emotion.
I have no emotion, bro.
That's the guy who's going to be able to do that.
I don't go on dates.
And he's super high standards.
He did not have to do shit.
You gave him the pussy for you.
And then the guy who's going to be, oh, the gentleman, the gentleman.
I don't even get my passion.
How many women always have a marriage, bro?
What am I telling you?
I'm going to give thousands of dollars to try to get coochie and I don't give a fuck.
I'm not talking about you.
So why would I do it?
I was actually going to say, in a sense, I agree with you.
Effort should grow.
And I think that's something men struggle with: they try to do their best effort forward.
And then women are like, what the heck happened?
You used to do so much.
And I like the idea.
I like the idea of coming in emotionally and being there emotionally and not spending a ton of money and then being like, you know what?
I want to be exclusive.
I like this person.
I'm confident in you.
And you're both on the same page on where you're growing together.
And that's when you invest in each other.
That's love bombing.
You're saying that they're love bombing you first.
Damn.
And then I think that's something a lot of men do.
To gradually love bomb you isn't good either.
Well, no, not love bombing.
Love bombing works on me.
T6.
You let him get it raw.
Didn't have second thoughts.
Oh, now you are single bomb.
For you.
You said I'm going to have this kid.
Don't care if he's here or not.
Now you are single mom.
Now you are single bomb.
You really had a drill out.
I'm really glad.
She's not single.
She's a little situation.
Okay, these nuts.
Do you want to respond to these nuts?
I did.
I let him hit her raw as fuck like some sushi.
And my babies are beautiful.
And I'm going to do it again.
And if my man is watching this, be prepared tonight.
Oh, she took her man to get pregnant tonight.
Baby daddy free on the way.
All right, we have we have Ryan He says, What a disgusting group.
Serious demon energy.
Be sure to shower after the show, Brian.
Thank you, Ryan Johnson.
Appreciate that.
Does anybody want to respond to that?
He called Brian or Ryan.
I'm a nasty bitch.
Thanks for the 100.
I'm a dog-ass woman.
I'm very pure.
Thank you, Ryan, for your super chat.
Thanks for the input.
Okay, Valentine's Day, though.
Was there anything else on the Valentine's Day thing?
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
I just think, look, if she's your girl, then yeah, you can take care of her.
But shit, if she's dealing with other men, nah.
I agree.
But you have a question.
You got to find a girl that's only focusing on one person at a time.
Undivided attention.
I have a question for you, Brian.
A lot of men won't put a title on things, which has women going out and dating and doing certain things.
But I feel like a lot of men aren't putting titles on things.
So a lot of women are like, okay, well, I'm going to date someone.
Why am I going to wait for you?
Like, that's something wrong with a man, too.
Like, if a woman wants to put a title on something and you don't want to do that, why am I going to wait for you?
I'm going to go get my flowers from over here and over there.
Like, what?
If he's not talking to me, I'm like just one person either.
I don't talk to them.
I mean, look.
If you value long-term relationships, you value monogamy, and you're dealing with a guy like that.
That's not the guy for you.
You should probably move it on.
I mean, look, you're going to have to, when you first meet somebody, depending on your, I mean, look, you go on the first date with somebody and you ask them, are you seeing other people?
And they say yes.
I mean, it can be a wrap right there for you.
I mean, look, ideally, you should be screening these people well before you even meet up in person.
What if you don't ask those questions on the first date?
What if you, on the first date, those questions aren't asked?
And then the second or third date, then you listen to me.
Let me give you women some game.
I'm going to give you the game.
All right.
Here's the ball, y'all.
Women have, you guys have a lot of leverage when it comes to dating.
And here's how.
You are pursued.
Women are generally.
Women are the ones being pursued.
So when somebody's coming to you, and this applies not just in relationships, but also even in business.
Like if somebody's coming to me and they want to sponsor me, I have more leverage in the negotiation.
Whereas if I'm doing outbound, you know, sales and I'm like, hey, you want to sponsor the podcast?
It's like you have less leverage.
Whereas if somebody wants something from you, you can set the terms.
Whereas if like you're the one reaching out, it makes things difficult.
So as women, you have the benefit, the privilege of men typically being the pursuers.
Now, I'm not saying all men are going to go for this, but honestly, y'all women could really be screening these dudes.
Like, you could, as a girl, you could have a guy, and some guys might think it's a bit uncommon, but, and maybe some of you do this, have them fill out a fucking boyfriend application.
I'm telling you, the dudes would probably fucking do it.
And then you could just fucking screen.
You could screen.
And so it's like, I don't know, me personally, time is valuable.
I don't have time to just be like, going on a date just to see how things go.
It's like, nah, let me know everything about you before I even fucking consider hopping on a phone call.
Women's Privilege In Dating00:09:22
I need a deposit too.
Well, I don't do that.
I need to deposit.
What about liars?
Nah, deposits.
That's not like what about liars?
It's not liars.
I made a good boy punch card.
So every time they did something good or something that towards me, like I would punch their card and that's like basically my option.
What do they get at the end when they punch all the holes?
They get to potentially be my boyfriend or punch my hole.
Maybe.
So that's why I haven't been bugging because nobody's got to the 10th punch.
Damn.
Nobody?
Nobody.
No.
Because they want the cookie way too quick.
What do you got to do to like get your whole punch on the card?
What's a good thing?
Do something on Valentine's Day.
I don't know.
Maybe like, I don't know.
Like, think of something men know how to get cookie.
You know, like.
Well, actually, I mean, my position on that, I think it's totally fine to have sex super early on.
I do too, but I'm saying that's.
You judge women with a high body count.
So it doesn't make sense to me.
Have we established that yet on the show?
I've heard your show before.
I don't really judge it.
I wouldn't say I judge it.
Well, it depends what we mean by judge.
But so is it my preference to date somebody who doesn't have a promiscuous past?
And yeah, sure, that's my preference.
But I don't know if judging necessarily comes into play.
It depends what we mean by judge.
I respect that answer.
I guess like.
But you would agree logically it's possible in the same way that it's logically possible that a girl could be showing her pussy and butthole and doing dick ratings and be a virgin and be a sex worker and be on OnlyFans, you'd agree it's possible that I could encounter a woman who's a virgin, for example, who lets me hit right away.
Like it's logically possible that could happen.
That just fried my brain.
I'm trying to get a lot of people.
I'll try to keep the ball.
No, but it's logically possible.
Because I think what you're trying to say is, is that, well, you prefer women with a low body count, but like women who would sleep with you quickly, they probably have a high body count.
Is that what you're saying?
I guess I mean if you were to sleep with someone right away, then you're giving them a body that's like not meaningful.
Oh, it's going to be meaningful.
Look, look, I don't know if you guys have had bad experiences where the guy just hits and disappears or whatever.
I'm sorry that happened to you.
Me personally, I'm not into a one-time thing is fucking pointless to me.
I'm not interested in a one-time thing.
Also, even if I was sex motivated, sex is better like 20, 30, 40.
Like after one, you're comfortable.
One, you love, or well, excuse me.
One, you are comfortable with each other.
Two, you love each other.
Three, you just practice, like you know what each other likes in terms of, you know, dislikes and whatever, whatever.
So for these reasons, sex is better in a relationship.
So even if you're sex motivated, sex is better with a girl you care about, a girl who cares about you, who loves you, you love her, and when you've built that comfort and connection.
But so just sex one time, completely pointless.
You never had friends who benefits?
Oh, look, I mean, I have had like shorter-term situations, more so when I'm younger, but going in for, even when I was younger, though, like a one-night stand, like I, if I, I see a girl and I'm like, well, she's not that attractive, but I'd try and get some pussy.
Like, that never appealed to me.
I've always, now I have had shorter-term relationships or more, more like friends with benefits or whatever, where it wasn't like super serious, but I've always had the intention of if I'm going to sleep with a girl, I'm, this has to go in an intentional direction.
Like, I'm not just going to, like, for example, if a girl presented to me, Brian, here's some pussy, but here's the catch: you can only fuck me once.
I'd be like, no, no, I'd actually like a lot of people are not going to believe me when I say this.
I would turn her down.
If I can only have you once, I don't want you.
Interesting.
I need your fucking soul.
I like, I don't know, sex is just like, are you a lover boy?
No, I'm not lying.
I'm just saying, like, it's just, it's not.
Because, you know, if there was a girl, if there was a girl that walked in the room and head to toe was just everything you desired, you're not going to say no to her for that one night.
Well, I mean, if we do it.
She's like, hey, he was going to die tomorrow because I have this illness.
Now it's a pity fuck.
No, I don't.
I'll do a pity fuck just a little bit.
You want a Cinderella.
Like, you want a Cinderella.
You want her to leave a glass slipper so you guys can fuck again.
Like, you don't want just a one fuck.
You want a Cinderella.
Look, you could give me a hypothetical scenario where it's like, look, she's fucking drop dead gorgeous and you don't have to put in any effort and she's just offering the pussy.
But like for most guys getting laid, it's there's there's degrees of effort to put be put in.
So I guess my argument here is it's not worth my time to put in the effort just to fuck a girl once.
Like even if, look, some girls be giving the pussy away a couple hours.
I'm not doing, I'm not going to do a couple hours just for some pussy.
Like we're going to, if I'm, if I'm going to pursue a girl, there's going, at least from my end, some girls, there be, I've been hurt.
Oh, I'm like, I wanted more and you just wanted to fuck.
What the fuck?
I'm like, whoa, damn, you hidden quit.
What the fuck?
I thought, you know, maybe, hey, shit, sometimes performances, hey, you don't always do your best.
You know, you try your best.
But ultimately, yeah, I'm always pushing in the direction of continuity with a girl.
What fucking a girl wants is pointless.
Now, look, just to be clear, if I hook up with a girl and she like does some crazy shit like afterwards, like she fucking stabs me or like punches my calf.
Oh, I thought you were saying like the gun.
Your calf out.
Dang, R.I.P. the calf.
No, I'm saying like, like some psychotic shit.
No, it's like, yeah, okay, well, this is probably going to be a one-time thing.
But like my intention always going in, it's like, it's not worth my time to just, okay, well, we're just going to fuck once.
And that's, I mean, it's not worth it.
Yeah, I'm the same way.
I don't, I don't do hookups.
They make me feel bad about myself.
I'm like, okay, listen.
Okay, so yeah, just a reminder, like, I have no qualms.
Like, of all the, I've had multiple long-term relationships, five years, two years, one, like a couple others.
Like, first, second, third time hanging out, we have sex.
So I don't have any, like, sex can happen quickly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I want more, I guess.
Did you, sorry, do you have a question?
I did, but I was reading that comment actually.
I don't know.
Disregard those.
Okay.
All right.
I feel like a lot of people, a lot of people, they said that women want what they don't, that they can't have.
A lot of people want what they can't have.
Like, there's a quote that says, we accept the love we think we deserve, right?
Okay, so if you accept love like that, then that's what you're going to get.
And I feel like that's very good on you, Brian.
That's very, very good on you that you don't accept that kind of love because then you would get that kind of love.
A lot of us don't do that.
Lot of us sit here and just like give the coochie away.
I know I have.
You were talking about that story earlier about the whole, what was it?
The fucking trick?
The doggy volleyball.
Yeah, the doggy.
I've done that.
I've done that.
I've literally went.
No, I literally went on a date that my boyfriend told me to go on.
My boyfriend told me to go on a date.
He's like, I don't know where we're at at this point.
So I was like, okay.
I was like, so I'm going to go see him.
Went to go see him on Valentine's Day.
Went on a really, really, really cool and good date.
And then went back home and he said, how was your date?
I said, good.
I said, how was your baby mama?
He said, good.
And we fucked.
So open relationships.
Has anybody here?
It doesn't have to be exactly like this, but has anybody here ever done the basically the essence of the doggy bag scenario where you went, how about this?
Come on, be honest, guys.
What?
What?
Okay.
You're sleeping with a guy, but maybe it's not quite official yet.
It's not boyfriend, girlfriend.
And then while you're like sleeping with that guy, you go on a date with a different guy.
I mean, isn't that kind of like normal?
Because I mean, people date all the time.
They go see one guy and then the other.
I date one person at a time, literally.
I'm being honest.
I don't, I don't count it.
I prefer when I have done it.
I can't contain like that.
I do not count it as a real date, especially if I know like I'm just going to make you a trick.
Make them a trick?
Yeah, because if I'm going to go to dinner and my intention is just to get things from you to make sure I obtain my lifestyle, whether it's money or food or whatever, and I'm going to take the food back to my man, then I'm only talking to you because that's the only potential I see.
So I don't really count it as like dating, but okay, but so you have done that though.
Double Hostage Situation00:09:20
Yeah, I used to do that when I was like a dancer.
Okay, so yeah, yeah, you used to dance.
Has anybody here escorted?
Yes.
What's that?
You escorted?
Yes.
Street, any street stuff or no?
Two, okay, to put it in a nutshell, when I was younger, I was basically sex trafficked.
I'm so sorry.
Damn.
That's okay.
But that's how a lot of.
When you say younger, are we talking?
I was like 20.
Oh, okay.
And you're 22, Colonel.
I'm 22, yeah.
So you had a pimp?
Yes.
Was it the white guy?
Nope.
It was a black guy.
That's where you fucked up.
Well, no, the black guys don't take care of you, the white ones.
No, literally.
But I mean, no pimps.
At the time, like, the reason why people get into those situations is because, like, you just want somebody to care about them.
You escort?
No, but you had a pimp?
And they're really good with the passion.
Yeah.
How do you know about the black and the white pimps?
Because I used to help the bitches.
Oh, you were the shit like that.
You were the bottom bitch.
I was like, no, no, no.
I was the mom.
I was the mama.
I was the mama.
I was the madam.
I was the madam.
I was the mama.
So you were the pimp.
I'm not a pimp.
I was never a pimp.
I'm not a pimp.
The law.
Whoever's watching, but I have been associated with people in that era, area of expertise.
And I've realized that the black pimps do not help you out.
It's the Mexican ones are the white ones that'll put money on the table.
Are there any Asian?
Yes.
The Asian ones tend to hit you.
No.
The Asian ones, the Asian ones, they don't care to let them take all of them hit.
Do you want to weigh in on the Asian pimps?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sexy vibe.
The Asian.
The woman hit bat.
They had us when we hit back.
Yeah.
No.
The Asian women in the industry, in the sex industry, they will hit the fuck out of you.
I seen an Asian girl, and she was like with her boyfriend outside the club after she got done working, and she was out here smacking her boyfriend's fucking head and throwing all his shit out the car.
I was like, differentiate between the different Asians.
So you got Korean, you got Japanese, you got Chinese, you got Philippines, you got Cambodian, you got Laos, you got Mongolian.
Shit, what else is there?
There's a lot.
Indian food.
Thai?
Don't forget the Thai.
You can't.
I don't know.
It was one of them, though.
What do you are you?
Vietnamese.
You're Vietnamese?
Oh, period.
Okay.
I gotta be honest.
I gotta be honest, guys.
I've dated some Asian women in my time.
Don't you like them?
He's like a classic white guy.
Who doesn't fetishize Asian women, though?
Who doesn't?
Asian women are beautiful.
I date Latinas.
I date white women.
So it's not a fetish thing.
It's not a fetish thing.
But I gotta say, the Vietnamese women.
Well, one, I'd say the Vietnamese Vietnamese women are very beautiful.
Thank you.
But y'all are toxic.
I'm going to be honest.
Y'all are a little tougher.
Isn't that your favorite?
Well, first of all, we came from war.
Yeah.
So, like, you, I think people assume that we're going to be all submissive and shit.
But no.
No.
Well, Vietnam smoked us, so of course they wouldn't be.
Vietnamese?
No, I speak Spanish.
From the south.
I'm from Texas.
Yeah, true.
Can you do like a Vietnamese accent, though?
No, actually, I can.
Wait, do it, do it, do it.
Yeah, do it.
I don't know.
Say do me.
Okay.
Dumb.
Do you know the essay?
You want the crit dojo, two dollar more, crit dojo.
Keep going, keep going.
Okay, on tea.
Okay, on tea, bro.
Keep going, keep going.
Well, it's because I'm Filipino.
Period.
Hi.
Yay, yo.
See?
We could be this way together, you know?
Yeah, we both.
Brown?
Say what?
What do you think?
Bro, I don't know how to.
You have an Asian monologue right now.
You have a boyfriend?
You don't have a boyfriend?
You don't have boyfriend?
You like black boy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You like the black boy like you because you do the suck, suck sucky suck.
Sucky, suck.
$5?
I don't think sucky $5 more.
I can't cook fried chicken.
Fried chicken fry rye.
Fried rice, fried chicken.
Wasn't one movie at the one movie?
She's like, oh, your boy.
You don't have no brother on your arm.
Yeah, you don't know how to cook fried chicken.
I have a brother on my arm.
Yeah, that's the one.
That's the one.
See, who the fuck?
What the fuck?
You guys seen the video of the white lady?
She's saying, I want to be mean, child.
Just check out.
I think that's the end of my life.
I'm going to get it.
I have a question.
Okay, I want to know what kind of men you guys like.
Sorry.
That's a good question.
Christian.
I mean, like, what's your guy?
What's your favorite flavor?
I'm not picky.
Honestly, I like a tall man, though.
Christian.
That was not already having one sentence.
That's a good cop.
The problem is, every time I talk to, like, I don't approach men anymore because I don't think that's fair with my industry.
If a man approaches me, I will immediately tell him what I do for work.
And they never have an issue with my job.
Like, never.
No, they love me.
They have an issue with me waiting till marriage.
The moment, like, we watch a movie together and I don't put out and they're like, she's serious.
She's on business.
Ghosted.
I swear.
Like, every time.
That's definitely been the reason I know you.
What's your ethnicity?
I ain't got no type.
Period.
I've tried bad bitches.
Taste the rainbow.
Taste the rainbow.
You ate live.
Hey, I go personality-wise.
Oh, yeah.
Can I change my bisexual thing too?
Do you change the exact thing?
I like gay guys.
Like every single guy that I like, I'm like, they're so handsome.
They always end up being gay.
Like, you do like the lavender really.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like, my ideal.
They're like get bisexual.
All the guys I like.
What about you?
What's yours?
I would say definitely light skinny water.
Oh, for sure.
You don't want my water.
I put drugs in.
Gets me every time.
What about you?
Wait, is that what the daddy is?
I like me.
I'm dark skinned.
I put methods in.
Yes.
Who are you engaged to?
Wait, guys, guys, guys, we can only do guys.
We can only do one conversation at a time here.
What?
Who is she?
Like, what ethnicity is your guy?
He's white.
Yeah, he cooks.
I like a guy that can cook for me.
I should.
Let's.
Oh, Mary, let's do some of the reacts here.
Yeah, yeah, go for it.
Go for it.
Guys, if you're enjoying the stream, hit the like video.
I think you know what?
I'm going to hold the stream hostage for a little bit.
Guys, guys, what are the likes at?
I need to see this.
Let's see.
What's the fucking likes at?
What do you guys?
We need more likes on this video, I think.
I'm holding this shit hostage.
Double tap.
Guys, we're at 1.2k.
There's 4,300 viewers just on YouTube side.
I need, let's hit 1.5.
That's 300.
Guys, the stream is fucking hostage.
Hostage until we hit 1.5,000 likes.
Hit the like.
And while I'm holding it hostage, go to Twitch, Mary.
This is a double hostage situation.
Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
I need three prime subs.
It's been, oh my God, it's been 26 minutes since our last prime.
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Two more prime subs.
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We're going to talk about that waiting till marriage thing.
We got some videos we got to pull up.
We got a bunch of topics.
We got some good, juicy stuff to get to.
Some girl stabbed somebody apparently.
Some girl did some crazy shit.
Some girl apparently fucked bad bunny or something.
Snow skates.
Thank you for the gift.
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He's like, yo, you got to keep going.
Dig deep, boys.
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Okay.
Celebrity Crush Confessions00:15:52
Question for you.
The train guy.
Yes.
Do you have a celebrity crush?
Yes.
Who is your celebrity crush?
Tyreek Withers.
Can we go?
Who's that?
Yeah, look at him.
Look at this movie.
Who is that?
Is that a actor?
He was in him.
He was in the most recent, one of the Marlin Bros had that movie, football movie.
Is he an athlete too?
He played as an athlete, but I think he's actually an athlete.
Do you have it, Mary?
Tyreek Withers.
Tyreek Withers.
Not to be confused.
He's a really down-to-earth guy.
Not to be confused with the twink Dean Withers.
Not to be confused with him.
Not to be confused.
Do you have it?
Okay.
So any other celebrity crushes?
Michael B. Jordan.
Michael B. Jordan.
Do you.
Okay.
Yeah.
Oh, is he mixed?
He's like half.
I think so.
White and half black, maybe?
Don't know.
Like Giga Chat.
He's just hunky.
I don't know.
He's a big jaw.
Giga chat.
So him, him, yeah, strong jawline.
Definitely.
He is fine.
No, he got a nice smile.
Look at that.
Okay.
And then question.
Who here waits to have sex?
Who here waits?
Until when?
Because you've been celibate.
You claim to sort of be celibate.
You wait to have sex.
Are you waiting until marriage?
Waiting for what?
Waiting for marriage or just like waiting?
No, waiting, you know, like, yeah.
But so for those of you who wait to have sex going around the table, how long do you typically wait?
Obviously.
You can skip me.
Yeah, waiting for me.
A month.
What, one month?
Okay.
What if it's kind of like long distance?
Two months.
Like, question.
If a guy, have you ever been flown out by a guy?
Not yet, no.
If a guy did fly you out, and let's say you were talking on the phone for a month, do you think, and say you really like the guy, do you think you would smash like that first hangout?
I don't think so, no.
No, I wouldn't.
Okay.
How long for you?
So we're like both exclusively talking to each other for sure.
Closer to Mike.
Until we're both talking.
But so try to, I know it can vary, but try to give me a time range, how long you wait to have sex.
I mean, as long as I know we're like both exclusively just talking to each other.
But that's week to a month.
Couldn't that happen like the first time you hang out?
Are you talking about it?
No, because I couldn't fully trust it.
I got to like be there and feel the vibes at least a week.
How many dates?
Second date, third date?
I mean, dates and talk.
I don't know.
I would say date-wise.
How many times meeting in person?
The first time, second time, third time?
I would say at least like the fourth time.
At least the fourth time.
You've never cracked on like the second date, third date?
I'm not saying I never have, but okay, what about you?
Honestly, when I think about it, all the guys that I've had like a sexual relationship with where it like it was like I met something, I knew them for forever.
Like my boyfriend, I knew him since I was 12.
Yeah, I did.
Or no, like, why?
Okay, because he's like my boyfriend, you know?
Bro, I knew him since I was 12, and we didn't have sex until we were 19.
And we dated for like a long ass time.
So that's cute.
And you, you, do you wait or not, really?
Yeah, I wait.
I'll be waiting.
Period.
Like for the third or fourth date, I'll wait third or fourth date.
Okay, all right.
Now, question for you.
Celebrity crush?
I don't know.
There's not like hot dude.
Not really.
Like, there's no one I really like.
I'm like, oh, like Brad Pitt when he was young.
Leo when he was Titanic.
You know what, actually, I do.
I love the show Gilmer Girls.
And I think Logan is very cute.
So I'll say that.
Who the fuck is that guy?
He got that one.
He was hot.
Okay.
So Celebrity Crush, you gave us two.
What about you?
I don't have any.
Really?
I have a weird, like, my type's based off personality.
I don't know.
So if Chris Brown walked in the room right now.
Oh, hell no.
He's not messing with me.
Chris Brown gets around.
Chris Brown gets around crazy.
All right, what about you?
Celebrity crush?
I love Finn Wolf Hart.
I have a freaking flag of him.
Yeah, that's my man.
That's my husband.
Okay.
Told you gay twinks for me.
Celebrity crush for you.
SpongeBob.
Period.
That was my first one.
SpongeBob.
Human celebrity crush.
I don't really have any.
I like the guy from Mulan.
He's hot.
Period.
Yeah, Shane.
Dude, he's gay.
Yeah, Shane can get it.
He's like, you're not a spenboy twink.
Get out of my head.
You really don't have a celebrity crush.
I'll stick with Logan.
Look at Logan from Real Moral Girls if you want.
Question.
So you're waiting until marriage.
Yeah.
Do you break your rule for Logan?
No.
Is there any man you would break your rule for?
No.
Okay, your celebrity crush was the dude Tyreek and M. Michael B. Jordan.
Yeah.
Did you break your rule for them?
Do they get to say it again?
I talked over you.
Say it again.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Even better the second time.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So they can, like, they, you meet them at a younger person.
But there's a spark, yeah.
I'm like, encounter them at a bar.
If it's there, but the connection is there.
They're just like, hey, there's a like a little private section over here that's totally closed off.
Like, it'd be fun.
It could be fun, yeah.
You want to make love in this club?
I'm like, yeah, I want to make love in this club.
Is that an usher song?
Yeah.
That's a fucking old song.
Classics.
All right.
Your celebrity crush.
I don't have one.
Zendayu.
Zendayu.
I don't know.
I don't know.
The manager of your strip club.
Okay, I'll say one handsome celebrity, KJ Appa.
He's cute.
Does he get to smash right away?
No.
Celebrity crush.
Who did you say, Finn?
Finn Wolfard.
That's my husband, so no, we waiting.
Could he crack right away?
No, we're not going to do that.
We're not going to do that.
Because I got to play it cool, act like I don't care so that he chases me.
Yeah, I play hard to get, and then we're locked in.
I don't like the hard to get thing.
No, but like it will work on him because he's like a little, he's like a little baby, like shy.
I think when women play hard to get, they quickly become hard to want.
Clocked.
Damn.
Bars.
Bars.
Yeah.
So say they're putting in a ton of effort, but they won't put out.
Oh, well, that's different.
Hard to get isn't...
I wouldn't even consider it sex.
I'd consider it more like...
I like that.
I respect it.
Like if she's just slow to respond to you and she's not making time for you and she's kind of stringing you along, that's kind of hard to get a little bit.
But she don't like you.
She don't like you.
I mean, sometimes you can.
No, but you got to do that.
But then when you're with them, you got to be like, the vibes are there, you know?
Men like competition that chase sometimes.
Men like that chase.
It works.
It's the wrong man.
I don't like competition.
That's you.
I don't like competition.
There are men out there that do.
When it comes to dating, it's like she's going on five dates.
She's gone on five dates this week.
I don't want to deal with that.
That's a lot of competition.
Yeah, well, because that's when you date.
That's not going to date somebody who's dating you.
That's pageantry.
Is what you say.
You want somebody who's like single.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I remember a couple years ago, I was on dating.
I'm not in any dating apps now.
I used to be on dating apps.
I remember one time I went out with this girl, like average girl, and she tells me on the date, I'm just like, so tell me about yourself, blah, blah.
She tells me, yeah, I had two dates this weekend, and she's like, I got a date.
It was a Tuesday.
I got a date on Thursday.
I got a date on Friday.
I got a date on Saturday.
I'm like.
Is it okay for a man to do that?
That's people management.
Like yourself.
As long as you got our schedule picks.
I lost total interest.
I totally lost interest.
I was like, all right, they can have you.
Understandable.
Well, that's the same way if a man was like, making a damn thing.
I don't have a double standard, I think.
I think it's like until we make it exclusive, it's none of my business.
Right.
I'm not going to ask.
Don't ask, don't tell.
Yeah.
Don't ask to be questioned.
Oh, I need to.
You got to ask.
I'd be asking.
You got to ask.
Yeah, so if you don't ask, then you got to be ready for the money.
I would only ask if I'm ready to make it.
So, like, if I want you to be excited.
Blaffis donated $100.
Brixon, don't overthink or overcomplicate a good thing.
It's not premarital sex if you never planned on marrying them.
That's funny.
It's funny, but that's crazy.
That's true.
That's crazy.
I see what he's saying.
Thank you, Blafis.
Appreciate it, man.
Well put.
That proves my point.
Like, if I'm going to marry my man, then I'm not going to give the cookie out.
We don't give the cookie out for crumbs.
But you're going to give us a break.
Where was I going with this?
Oh, Mary, let's do it.
No, I don't give my cookie to nobody.
Mary, let's do some cookie on the pussy price.
Just the remaining Reacts.
It's like the videos.
I like sex.
Yeah, just window tab is fine for these.
I wish I did.
I feel like I lost like I got to smash my celebrity crush.
That was great.
Who was it, Chris Realm?
Okay.
Actually, we're not even going to be great.
I guess you can play it just because I'm not going to be able to do it.
Quiet.
I like the fit.
Thank you.
I can't see that far.
Can you read the subtitle?
You?
Can you read the subtitle?
Yes, sir.
Okay, realizing men think my job is an excuse to put in no effort and pay for nothing.
Tab over.
Next.
Read the next.
F. Wait, is this you?
I know, that's what I'll see.
If you expect me to pay on the first date, don't talk to me.
Okay, next.
When he's perfect in every way, but doesn't want to wait till marriage.
Next.
Forever dressing modest because one day I'll be a wife and a mother.
I mean, that one's ridiculous.
Because I mean, I'm going to see.
She had a cross-game rating.
She got a little belly button.
There's a little belly button.
You had the clothes rolling.
Bro, you're about to take his job.
All of the videos I make come from my personal life.
Yes, I have a persona online.
I try to make it really authentic, but when I go in public as myself, I dress very modest.
And that's why I come up with those videos.
can I ask you a question?
What allowance, so you would, you would acknowledge that the guy who's dating you, who's Christian, who wants to wait till marriage, who's trad himself, one, I think is going to have major issue with you doing the OnlyFans stuff.
But so if we were sort of doing a tit for tat thing, if the guy has to give you an allowance to because you say you're trad in all the other ways except the sex work, right?
Which is really big, like kind of a big deal for most men.
So it's kind of like, well, I'm trying to think of an example.
Oh, I'm a vegan.
I don't eat pork, but I do eat beef.
It's like, okay, well, all right, whatever.
What allowance would you let a guy not be trad?
In what ways can a man, because you're not totally trad, right?
In what ways can a man not be trad that you would accept?
That's a good question.
It is a partnership.
And so I'm okay with a man, like, not 50-50 on everything, but 50-50 across the board, which honestly I think is a bit trad in some senses, because you could be putting in more emotionally.
But I'm not seeking a relationship right now because I know that I contradict what I ask for.
And so that's fine.
I don't need a relationship right now.
Yeah.
She's self-aware.
Yeah.
I don't approach men.
I don't seek men because I understand the position I put myself in.
Accountability.
Okay.
But I mean, you do have that video where you're, Mary, pull up the paying for date one or whatever that was.
Just clip farming.
But it's like you are talking about advertising.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's stuff I still think.
It's stuff I still feel.
It's my morals.
But it doesn't mean I'm out here being like, take me on a shit.
So look, I think the fair trade-off here, you say, if you expect me to pay on the first date, don't talk to me.
Maybe the equivalent that a guy could say in that circumstance is if you post pictures of your butthole on the internet, I shouldn't have to, you don't talk to me or whatever.
I do think the fair trade-off, since you are an active sex worker, if you were to encounter a guy, I think you got to maybe at least lose the paying for the first date thing.
Like you got, maybe you got, in fact, you got to make up.
That's right.
You got to make up for the sex work.
So I think that, yeah, you should pay, you should pay the, not just for your part of the, not 50-50, you pay for the entire bill for the first date because to make up for the sex work.
As I explained, I'm not seeking men.
If a man seeks me and I tell him these are my standards with man, and the first thing I would do is say, this is my job, I'd be honest.
And if they choose, again, you don't have to date me.
I don't need anyone.
It's a choice.
Again, I don't need to lower my standards.
Then you probably should, though.
If they're asking me on a date, they can pay for the date.
I think that's plenty fine.
They can choose where we go.
They can choose a place that's a $10 burger.
That's fine.
But I'm not forcing any man to do that.
I feel optional.
And that's okay.
You can't make a man do whatever.
That's totally okay.
Yeah.
And I'm not seeking a man.
But if a man seeked me and I was honest about everything and I told him that I want a traditional relationship, then I think that's fine.
You find a partner who wants you for who you are and will match with you.
You don't change for someone.
And that's okay.
But so would you agree with me that let's say a woman has all these standards and the standards is, I'm not saying these are your standards, but I'll just throw some standards out there, for example.
Let's say the woman's standards are as follows.
She wants a guy who makes minimum $1 million a year.
She wants a guy who's six foot one.
She wants a guy who is Christian.
She wants a guy who's funny, who's charismatic, who's confident.
She wants, and by that description, good looking, let's add that.
That man that I just described is highly desirable for vast amounts of women.
And let's say, though, that she, hmm, she has five baby fathers.
She has seven children across these five different fathers.
She's 39.
She's obese.
And she's a former drug addict.
And she's like not good looking.
Now, so, but she wants all those things, right?
Do you think, and you might say for people that, you know, it's fair to have your preferences.
I guess one, do you think she's going to get that guy?
And then two, secondary to that, do you think that she should perhaps reevaluate her standards to perhaps get a guy that would be more commensurate to her standing in life?
That's a great question.
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No, she probably won't find that guy, but that's okay.
That's her standard.
She can keep it.
It's just a personal preference.
She can't.
Like, for example, if my standard was, for example, my standard was, I mean, I wouldn't select all of you, but fuck it, just to be autistic and retarded.
If my standard was, I will only date women who come on the show, who have an orgy with me after the show, and I will only date the women who engage in this post-debate orgy with me.
You'd be like, well, you can have that standard, Brian.
You can have it, but it's never gonna fucking happen, right?
It's not gonna happen.
Sure, then don't complain about it when you don't find someone.
That's why I'm not complaining.
I should readjust.
That was a quiet thought.
I should readjust.
My expectation is unreasonable.
It's delusional.
And so I should readjust my expectation to be more realistic.
Okay, logical.
It doesn't matter to actually do that.
Realistically, let's take a point.
Realistically, who wants to have the fucking post-whatever podcast orgy?
This is a really elaborate way of trying to get away from it.
Are you fucking with you?
Hypothetically.
But to like, to like your example, and like to her point, like you're she's only faulting in one area.
You named someone who was like obese, had totally like nothing to do with her.
I was thinking like a whole bunch of things.
She's beautiful.
She's smart.
She carries herself well.
She speaks well.
She's, you know, she's bad.
So like she makes her money there.
But her argument was, well, you should have your standard, but I guess what I'm saying is the standard, perhaps standards can be re-evaluated and reassessed based on what you're bringing.
Because I think a lot of average women, I'm not saying you're average, by the way, but I'm saying a lot of average women won't date an average guy.
A lot of average women want above average men.
And just from purely numerical reality, there's not enough men to go around.
There's not enough above average men to go around to be dating average women.
So ultimately, look, average women, y'all don't want average men.
You want above average men.
As an average woman, you're going to have to be like, okay, well, I want a guy who makes a million dollars a year, but I'm an average woman.
How about we bring that down to 50,000?
Let's do that.
Why would I want to lower my standards for somebody that is potentially going to be my leader?
I want my leader to have higher, be higher than me so I can grow to him or with him.
Well, I mean, it's even granting that perhaps in some situations people are able to secure a boyfriend or a girlfriend or a partner or a husband or a wife outside of their league, just purely numerically, statistically, there's not enough men or women to go around for people to be frequently matching with people outside their league.
It's just, it's not going to work.
I think you receive what you attract.
If you're the type of, if you are the woman that is worthy of a millionaire, then you are that.
You're going to attract that.
You're going to get that.
Can I ask you?
But also.
Yeah, continue.
Continue.
Not everyone, you know, can meet all these standards you may have.
You got to negotiate.
You got to prioritize which ones matter more to you.
And then if that person still fits within that frame, then you can't have it all sometimes.
But do you think the average woman has the leverage to get with the guy who makes a million dollars a year?
It happens.
Sometimes they're ugly.
Yeah.
Like, you know, I mean, sometimes they go for these women that are like that.
Yeah, they got that.
Yeah, so I would agree that when it comes to dating, there's going to be things that bolster you up and you're going to have deficits and you're going to have positives.
And so, yes, you know, the total assessment of somebody's appeal or attractiveness is multivaried.
There's a bunch of different factors that will come to like a sort of final determination as to somebody's like the total packet.
Well, hold on.
When I say total package, I mean like who they are in total.
Total package would mean like they're everything right.
Or like lists.
When I say total package, I mean like who they are in totality.
And so ultimately, though, if we're talking about an average woman, wouldn't you agree that it might be delusional for her to have an expectation that she ends up with a guy who makes a million dollars a year?
Describe an average woman.
Does it matter?
Describe an average woman looks, average personality, average body, average face.
But do you think it's toxic to think like that, though?
Why do you think it's toxic?
I mean, I guess I just don't really think about stuff like that because I don't see myself in a league or like getting somebody in another league.
Like, I just like when I think of the person I will end up with eventually, I just, I don't really think about like their money or their looks or anything.
I just think of how they would make me feel, I guess.
Well, how you feel with them.
Yeah.
But, you know, ultimately, I do think that you ask if it's toxic.
I actually think it's toxic for women to be delusional.
I agree.
Yeah.
I feel like the average man also wasn't above average women.
Well, because like porn and everything, like guys are really desensitized.
And so they're the same way as like women.
So I'm willing to say that.
It goes both ways.
Yeah.
Well, not to the same degree.
I'm willing to grant that there are delusional men.
There are men who don't really know where they stand when it comes to the dating marketplace.
But this is more pronounced in women.
There's more women who are delusional when it comes to their expectations on men.
Now, again, there are delusional dudes out there.
Trust me, there's delusional dudes.
But again, way more pronounced in women.
I would say there's a whole bunch of reasons for this.
I think one of the big reasons, though, is women can get a taste of a man outside of her league.
So when I say a taste, if I step to a woman outside of my league and I, here, I'll use two metrics.
I'm pleasant and I'm offering dick.
Period.
That's not enough to get the girl.
No, no.
That's not enough to get pussy as a man.
And so even if that's not true.
Yeah, I feel like.
No, that's not true.
Because people need to be deleted.
Like men do that to women all the time.
But hold on.
Let me make the full argument here.
So as men, let's say we step to a girl outside of our league.
We get instant rejection.
Now, you might say, well, I know this.
I'm speaking in general terms here.
When men step to women outside their league, instant rejection.
The girl isn't going to, the girl isn't going to consider, well, he's offering up some pussy.
It's been a minute.
Well, to be honest, from the girl who says she waits and she doesn't do that, she's just letting some guy who's below her league hit.
And that's okay, whatever.
So just trying to make that mistake.
Okay.
And you know what, their egos are so big that they actually use that that they dated me to get more bad bitches, even though they are really not deserved.
They're super combo, though.
So we can, I guess I just want to finish up the points, the argument on this.
So a guy steps to a girl outside of his league.
That girl, in 99% of instances, 99.99% of instances, nothing.
She blanks the guy.
Zero.
He gets nothing.
He doesn't get a date.
He doesn't get a kiss.
He doesn't get oral.
He doesn't get nothing.
Hold on.
He gets nothing.
However, however, if you're a girl and you step to a guy out of your league, that guy, he's like, well, just based on her looks alone or whatever other characteristics, never would be in a relationship with her.
But she's pleasant and she's making the pussy.
She's offering.
So the reversal.
She's pleasant and she's offering pussy.
Pussy on the platter.
Pussy on a silver platter.
Guys, the guy's gonna, not all guys, but guys will take that offer.
Yeah.
That's why Chris Brown is fucking nobody girls.
He's fucking nobodies.
Rappers, fucking absolute nobodies.
NFL players, professional athletes, they're fucking no, the women they're having sex with are nobodies.
And it could even, sometimes they're not even that good looking.
Sex addiction.
Yeah, they're unwife.
Easily accessible.
Right, they won't wife them.
But so what ends up happening is when you have average or a bit above average looking women or sometimes below average women dealing with these hyper attractive men, and that could be, it could be looks, it could be personality, it could be wealth, it could be status, it could be their famous athlete, musician, rapper, whatever it is.
These men, just on your looks alone, would never consider being in a relationship with you.
Never consider it at all, but you're really into them and they can have sex with you.
And so you have a taste.
That's why I won't fuck him.
See, you get my point.
And do you think it's because of their standards?
Well, look, they have desires too.
You're asking me if I should change my standards when I've never been in this predicament because I know exactly what I want in a partner.
Right, but we're talking about this phenomenon in terms of who's more delusional.
So women have the pathway to believing they're more attractive than they actually are.
This is one of the reasons is because, like, for example, let's say the roles were reversed and I, as like, honestly, I give myself, well, on the rating scale, a 4.5, I'm below, like slightly below average looking.
If I could just fuck, like say a bunch of girls were down to fuck me.
They can't.
I can't.
Yeah, just let me finish.
I'm sorry.
If, like, hot chick, like a hot chicks, like, just wanted to use me for sex.
Oh, no.
They just wanted to use me for sex, but they never wanted a relationship with me.
They're just like, they say, what you doing Friday at fucking midnight?
What do you do?
But that's it.
That's it.
I'm not surprised, though.
There's a lot of like, there's ugly guys out there that just got good dick.
They very loser men.
Huge dicks.
They do.
But look, I understand, but I'm talking about a general idea here, a general principle.
Who's more delusional?
I don't think it goes both ways, though, like equally.
No, it does.
You think it's equal?
No, I think it just equally goes both ways where men, you know, they score women.
No, so above these standards.
Women do the same thing.
So it's a little balance, I guess.
No, no, no.
It's not that.
So, okay, if I can sleep with a woman, I have high confidence, not 100%, high confidence, I can get that girl into a relationship.
If I can sleep with her, I can, high confidence, I can get her into a relationship.
Of the men that you have slept with or can sleep with, how high has your confidence been that you can get him into a relationship?
Everything mine extremely confident.
Why?
You?
Really?
I have to turn them away.
I think it depends on the man, too.
I agree.
I don't know what date isn't that bad.
I can't change no man.
I can't.
I think it's high as fuck.
If I know that I put that on him and I put that on him real good.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
I think he wants to be with me.
I mean, if you're dealing with a guy who has options, okay, the sex is good.
Oh my God.
Who fucking cares?
Like, if a guy's a fucking like, if a guy is, what's the right word?
Not needy.
No, no, if the guy doesn't have options and he's thirsty, then yeah, if the pussy's really good, then that'll be enough for him.
And look, to be fair, a lot of guys are not getting action in that way.
But if you're dealing with a real G, a real motherfucking G, just the pussy being good.
By the way, it's not like.
There's pussy everywhere.
Yeah, AI.
I'm just saying, just saying, I'm not going to give up the pussy.
Like, this idea that it's so hard to be good in bed as a woman, bro, it's so fucking.
You guys don't even.
Look, if the pussy's tight, the pussy, like, why don't she saw the picture?
It's hard for women to be good in bed.
It's easy.
It's like recruit difficulty for women to be good in bed.
You don't even look.
It's hard.
Well, the performance, the burden of performance is higher on the man when it comes to sex.
Well, you were just making that point earlier.
I actually just asked one of my homies that exact question.
Like, how is the how is like the performance with different women?
It's like some of some women can be very lazy and suck at sex.
Yeah.
Well, what I'm saying is, I think men, like in order for the sex to be good, more falls on the man than the woman.
That's true.
Because I've stroked women before, like a man, like with my strap on, and it is so hard.
Well, I'm saying real progress cardio.
We make up for that cardio with the house.
And here's an example I like to give.
I think when it comes to sex, I think that as a man, you say you put a woman in whatever position you prefer, and she doesn't do anything.
Like she does, it could be doggy, it could be whatever.
Her on top.
As a man, if the woman is not do like just she's dead fishing.
You can through your own action as a man, you can bring yourself to climax.
However, the amount of if the man's just like got hard on and he's just standing there or he's laying there, I think far fewer women are able to bring themselves, like could through just the woman's action, could bring themselves to climax.
Now, look, there's some women who are like insanely orgasmic.
They come super easily.
They can have multiple orgasms and it's not a problem, even just from intercourse.
But I do think there's a higher burden of performance to please a woman than the reverse.
Because you're inverting.
Wait, I feel like we switched topics a little bit.
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No, inserting that information.
I mean, we're hitting a bunch of things.
But you know, I like it.
Whatever you're saying now.
Yeah, no, it is harder for men.
I know it's harder for men.
I'm lazy.
I mean, it's like if I just sat there and like.
I'm a pillow princess.
I don't know.
I agree with you.
It's like if you sat there with your mouth open and I just had to move your like tongue every which way, like I would be fucking disappointed as shit.
So yeah, you're not.
Well, I'm just talking about actual intercourse.
Like all the intercourses.
Everything.
Yeah.
You guys put in work.
I appreciate you.
Let's see here.
What are the other reacts, Mary?
Are there?
Just check the other reacts, I guess.
The two random ones for text probably have.
Oh, yeah, that's hers.
Yeah, well, let's pull those up.
Pull those up.
Yeah.
All right, this is.
Oh, my God.
I was so done.
Isn't it easy for women to get into the tech industry?
Come on.
It's easy.
I thought it was 2020.
That was, girl, I could do that.
Like, oh, that's awesome.
Here, this camera.
Do it, this camera.
Do the cross-eye thing.
I need to see this shit.
Oh, gosh.
I'm pissing this shit.
All right.
That's dope.
I think it got stuck.
Hold on.
I think it's time.
It's called eye control.
Next one, I guess.
I'm not going to buy it on that.
I'm so tad.
Oh, my God.
2020.
I don't know what.
You should have had your hair like this, by the way.
Yeah, your hair is so good.
I went through all the colors, and I'm just back to my virgin hair.
I went through all of that.
I did all of that.
What else is there, Mary?
Are we just going to?
Oh, yeah, we have some tweets and shit from other people.
Okay, here, we're going to actually wait.
I have to wait until she's back from the table.
Come back.
We need you here.
Yes.
All right.
Going around the table, Stiffler, ask everyone to rate their looks, total face, body on a scale of 0 to 10, can't pick 7, starting with you.
Solid 10.
Do so do 10, 10.
Do it like this.
Say face 10, body 10, total 10.
Like that.
Face 10, body 10, total 10.
What about you?
Base 10, body 9.5, 100.
Okay, what about you?
Face 8, body 10, total 9.5.
Okay, math.
In decimals.
Okay, what about you?
Face 6, body 7, total 67.
You wrote 8 here.
Oh, yeah.
You wrote 8.
Don't downgrade.
Wait, sorry.
Let me write these down.
Okay, so wait.
I'm sorry.
I do have to have you repeat it just because I missed this part.
Face 10, body 10, Okay.
Face 10, body 9.5, overall, 100.
Okay.
Face 8, body 10, total 9.5.
Face 6, body 7, total 67.
No, you wrote 8, though.
Okay, it's 8 then.
For which one?
67 is better, though.
For which one?
I guess all of them.
6 and 6.
All right, we'll just say 8, 8, 8.
What about you?
Face 10, body 10.
Face 10, body 10, total 10.
Total 10.
Scoot into the mic, please.
What do you say?
Face, face, face nine, body, like four, total six.
Wait, okay, so nine, face, four, bonny, six.
Okay, what about you?
I'd say my body four, face six, isn't the total 10?
No, that.
I don't know.
No, you're not adding it up.
It's the overall total overall.
Okay.
That'd probably be five then.
What about you?
Face eight, body eight.
Sorry, repeat that?
Face eight, body eight.
Total eight.
Okay, I give myself 4.5, 4.5, 4.5.
That's nice.
That's not how that works, but thank you.
Wow.
This might be, in terms of the ratings at the table, again, I've managed to recruit supermodels to my show tonight.
These women obviously have denied the contracts from the modeling agencies.
The most beautiful women to have ever graced.
Wait, are you calling me ugly?
I'm graced with their presence on the whatever podcast.
I didn't say that, but.
Sound like sarcasm.
You're welcome.
Well, hold on.
It's not saying somebody isn't a supermodel isn't calling them ugly.
Damn, fuck my tongue.
It's life.
Oh Bigger Than Ugly00:06:34
I thought I was.
Oh, whoa.
Okay.
Okay.
Damn.
Okay.
Wow.
That is interesting.
We have some.
Here's the question.
Here's the question.
Wow.
My modeling career is over.
Fuck.
Here's the question.
Why don't average women just think that they're average looking?
Because baddies.
Huh?
Then you attract average.
Well, I don't think I'm average.
I just think I'm odd.
Well, that's true.
Yeah.
You are self-aware at least.
Like, I don't think I'm ugly, but I don't think I'm like conventionally very attractive, but I think I'm just like a little nut, little nutty with a little.
Like, I'm not conventionally attractive.
Just curious, what diagnoses do you have?
Ooh.
Yeah, let's get into that.
Well, I have like anxiety and like depression.
But other than that, I don't have like official diagnosis.
Well, that, like, OCD runs my family.
And like, my little brother, he's like autistic.
He's like, ah, shit.
Bro, like, low-key, we got the Tism in our family and the OCD.
So.
Are you half white?
No.
I'm a half Asian and then I'm like Middle Eastern and Hispanic, yeah.
All right, does anybody here?
We'll come back to the rating thing in a sec.
Who here has a diagnosis?
I have ADHD.
Bipolar.
Anybody bipolar?
ADHD?
I'm 51.50.
You've been 51.50?
Yes.
I have too.
Have you ever shanked somebody?
Holy shit.
Whoa, there's a pause.
Diabolic.
The silence.
Shit.
The braids look like you shank somebody.
Really?
You look peaceful.
The brains look.
The braids look good.
I gotta be careful.
I was kind of mean to her earlier.
She looked like she whipped people with her hair.
She whip her hair around.
Were you in a gang?
No.
Absolutely not.
Have you ever been indicted?
No.
Not as an adult.
But as a child?
Sealed now?
Oh, okay.
There was a grand jury?
No.
Okay.
So, but you did.
Have you murdered somebody?
No.
No.
But you did stab somebody.
Oh.
It's okay.
It happened when you were young.
You're 29.
It's statute of limitations.
You're good.
I got you.
Statute of limitations.
Warrior Brian.
You can share this shit.
No, it's okay.
No, it was a little poke.
Oh, fuck.
What did you use?
Wait, I'm curious.
How old were you?
How about that?
Minor.
Oh, okay.
16, 12, 7, high school.
What did she do?
Or was it a man?
We just fought.
No, but who was it?
A woman or a man?
It was a woman.
Yeah.
What was it?
Was Sissy?
What did she?
Was she talking shit?
Did she have to be got and got?
Yeah, she was bigger than me.
Oh, yeah.
Weren't they bigger than you?
Like she's fatty.
No, you put it down when they're born.
I was going to lose.
Yeah, no, you got to be.
I'll find one.
See, you got to be careful with the short chicks.
They're scrappy.
Yeah.
They'll fuck you up.
Short girls?
Well, short girls.
Tiny but mighty.
People in general.
Tiny but mighty.
Yeah, tiny but mighty.
Yeah, she'll fuck somebody up.
Damn, okay.
I've been there.
I love that for you.
I love that.
I'm learning lore.
I'm getting the lore from you, you guys, tonight.
Okay.
Diagnosis.
So wait, the 5150 was for what?
Just from like stuff from when I was like younger.
Have you ever self-harmed and stuff like that as well?
Have you ever slashed a dude's tire?
Oh, I wish.
No.
Have you ever slashed a my ex slashed my tires and then I returned the favorite house?
Oh, what?
Huh?
You slashed a tire?
Who slashed show of hands?
Who has slashed a woman or a man's tires?
Oh, I bet it felt so good.
You slashed tires, slash tires.
I just busted windows.
I bleached grass.
I've busted windows.
I've slashed tires.
I literally busted his head in.
I've done a lot of.
Oh, shit.
A lot of them.
Oh, yeah.
Look for me.
Who has burned somebody's clothes?
Oh, I've done that as well.
Really?
Wow.
Tell us the other ways in which you guys have gotten revenge.
I ran over my baby daddy.
With what?
A vehicle.
A vehicle.
My motor vehicle.
It was the Kia Soul.
Yo, in the cube.
It is.
Got it in a toaster.
That's kind of emasculating, isn't it?
It's not just you got ran over.
It was three times.
It was a Kia Soul.
She said three tires.
I went back and forth.
Three times.
Was he laying down or was he mad?
Okay, okay.
So the story was: I was nine months pregnant.
I found out he was cheating on me, like my pregnancy.
So I started crashing out.
I was leaving.
To the mic, I was leaving his house after I got my evidence and he wasn't trying to let me leave.
He hopped on my hood, and you know, he got off my hood.
He comes to my passenger door, he opens it, and he's trying to like hold on to the door.
And then he gots like one leg in, one leg out.
And I was like, No, leave me alone.
He didn't want to leave me alone.
I think he tried to snatch the phone back from my hand, and I just pressed the gas and he like went under the car, and then he was still screaming.
And then so I go back and then he was still screaming, so then I go again, and then he stops screaming.
I thought I killed him.
I'm not gonna lie.
And then I took off, and then the police arrested me.
Him?
No, me.
Yeah, she really was.
But they let me go because I was nine months pregnant.
So they were like, we're not gonna lock you up.
Wait, was he injury?
Honestly, valid.
He looked fine.
He looked fine.
He didn't break anything.
He was just scratched up a little bit.
After running him over?
Wait, when you say, did you hit him or did you run him over?
I ran him over.
Like, like, okay, so the first hit, he just slipped under the car, so only my back wheels hit him.
And then I reversed four wheels and then I went forward.
Oh my god.
And he didn't break nothing.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
You are home.
Have you checked on him recently?
He's in prison.
Megan On Looks Ratings00:15:47
Oh.
Look at that.
He got bigger problems with her mom.
She got her justice.
Before you do a crime, make sure you're pregnant.
What's the craziest thing you ever did?
I mean, this was like high school.
You know, any type of betrayal, I took that so to heart.
But this one time, I think it was just this guy that played me.
And I ended up finding out where he lived because back then, Instagram had like when you posted a picture, it would show like where you would post, right?
So I found his house by that and also matching the photos he would take in front of his house to like that neighborhood because we were in the same district.
And then, yeah, I researched that if you bleach grass, like you got to get that shit uprooted.
So I wrote a very strong message on the grass with bleach.
Yum.
That's good.
I like that.
I'm going to use that.
What was the message?
Like, art.
It was written in the grass.
It was just fuck you.
Like, you know.
And then, yeah, you add salt.
I wonder if they ever got that out.
It fucks up their car, too.
Going back to the looks rating thing here, though.
Okay.
10, 10, basically 10, 8, 10.
No, 6, 7.
9.
Wait, so if I think, if it's what I think, like, of myself, or it's what I think the of your kind of interrelated, they should at least be interrelated.
I think 10, 10 in myself, but I think that outside that.
Do you think all women should view themselves as 10?
You got to be on.
No.
You should be confident.
Well, yeah, you should be confident, but then like you got to have room for growth, too.
You know what I mean?
So if you're always a 10, like you got to be able to clock yourself and you're like, damn, I'm kind of like a nine right now.
I need a 10.
But also, beauty's on the eye of the beholder.
Yeah, like I've seen men who have like all sorts of different types.
Like a girl might think she's ugly, but to be honest, like that's some guy's exact type.
I see it all the time and they even pay for it.
I mean, if a girl has a big labia that like bumps her up like one or two points, she goes up one or two points if she has a big labia.
You could have had a glowing up too.
You could have glowed up.
You could have been an ugly little teenager.
And now you hot.
So now you hop.
I look like ugly during straggling.
I love this.
Let's use a different framework for the question a little bit.
Do you think in terms of describing your looks, your looks, not your nothing else, just your looks, do you think you are below average, average, or above average?
Above average.
Above average.
Above.
Average.
I'll say I'm average.
Okay.
Above.
I think I'm average.
Above.
There's a lot of averages, though.
Average.
Okay.
Wait, but I'm confused because you said you're an eight.
I feel like I'm an eight.
And then you said, I think you're a nine.
No.
Face?
Oh, face?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think I'm a nine.
But then you said four bodies, six total.
Yeah, so in total, I think I'm an average.
I feel like if I was a little thicker, I'd be like a little bit above average, you know?
Thick is overrated, to be honest.
Uh-uh.
W.
I just like, as long as you're healthy and you know, you got some muscles, whatever.
Honestly, I can't tell if I'm chopped or not, though, because people, when I go in public, people look at me like this.
So I can't tell if they're shocked or if they're like, damn, she's hot.
I'm saying it's funny.
I can't perceive myself.
You got to get rid of the bangs, to be honest.
Dude, I just got them.
No, I like them.
They're very Farquadian.
Like, I feel very Farquad.
I just cut my head to Vampire Girl.
Okay, period.
I like that.
I like that.
I literally just cut my head.
Tell me, can you guys tell me a woman who you think is a 10?
Jennifer Lopez.
Well, let's go around the table, starting with you.
Jennifer Lawrence.
Really?
I think she's very beautiful.
What do you think?
I gotta come back to me.
I gotta think.
Well, Megan Fox, some say Angelina Jolie, both when they were younger.
Yeah, I feel like Megan Fox.
Megan Fox, what do you think?
I feel like Zendaya is all-around 10.
Everything personality vibes, face.
Zendaya is a 10.
Okay.
What about you?
Jennifer Lopez.
Like, young J-Lo or the whole time.
She's still J-Lo.
To this day.
She's a jerk to this day.
She was very attractive when she was younger.
I think you'd argue she's not.
Everyone ages gracefully, and she definitely.
What do you think?
I like India Love.
Who?
Oh, I love her.
India Love.
India Love.
Yeah, she's like a streamer.
Okay.
What about you?
I think I like Zendaya or Zoe Saldana.
They're so beautiful.
Those are 10s.
Okay, what about you?
Adriana Lima.
Oh, yeah.
Adriana Lima.
Okay.
Well, for the women who gave themselves a bit higher ratings, I mean, 10, 10.
Did you give an answer?
Just like my thinking.
What was her name?
What was the girl's name?
Jennifer Lawrence.
I love her.
Wait, Jennifer Lawrence.
Yeah.
I like her.
I mean, she's good looking, but I mean, she's like, she's so sweet.
She's hot.
She's not a 10.
Well, no, never.
I think her humor makes her.
She's not your type.
You said Megan Fox.
What did you say?
Zendaya.
I said Zendaya.
You said Megan Fox.
So you said you were a eight-face, 10-body.
Oh, well, okay.
You said Megan Fox a 10.
You gave eight for face, so I guess I can't really go there.
What about girl who's an eight?
Can you face?
Can you tell me that?
That feels mean.
It's hard for me to perceive, like, I don't know.
Yeah.
Like, I honestly see beauty in a lot of people that some people would think were unattractive.
I'm not going to lie.
And I think they're like a baddie, so don't trust me.
I guess for you, who's about to rejoin us at the table, who's a woman who you think is a 10?
It's fun, Mary.
Zendaya or Rihanna?
Okay.
Rihanna has too big of a forehead.
Really quick, who said all women are 10s?
Who said, did anybody say that?
All women are 10s or should be 10s.
Did anybody?
You?
I think we said we should all think we're all 10s.
Should all men think they're 10s?
Sure, including me.
Should I think I'm a 10?
Hell yeah.
No, helping me.
How high confidence you're confident.
You don't have to be like, I know I'm a 10, but you should have one hard sound.
Yeah, you should love yourself and think you're that one.
Troy, thank you for the 10.
Have that confidence.
I can't wait to do that.
Well, Venmo or something.
Thank you for the 10 on Venmo.
Let's see here.
I want to pull up some pictures, Mary.
Can you go into the looks tab on Discord?
We'll start with the looks tab under resources in Discord.
Looks maxing.
Just want to show you some photos of women.
So, Mary, we'll start with the Asian girl.
It's like if you have to scroll up a little bit.
And I'm not saying these are women are tens, but I'm just saying that I think these women are pretty attractive.
The first one, just click on the very first one, the Asian girl.
Do you have it?
Famous Asian.
What?
What do you mean, famous Asian?
Me?
Period.
Can you tell me what you currently see on the screen?
Mary, it's recently.
Are you in the looks tab here?
Okay, scroll to the very bottom, and then it's literally just like three posts up.
There's a like a Waysian girl.
Oh, yeah.
Wasian.
Waysian.
Yeah, okay.
Oh, I love that.
Tap through those.
Tab through?
She's a famous Asian.
Well, her eyes are crazy.
She's pretty.
Isn't she a fashion food?
No.
Some of these are small.
I don't lie.
Someone else.
I don't know why some of these are small.
All right, so look, I'm not saying she's a 10, but very attractive gal.
You look at her.
Keep going, Mary.
She's a 10.
Then we have a Stacy Dash.
Stacy Dash.
She's a 10.
Yeah, yeah.
Then do the next one down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Here's some other.
She's a 10.
I love her.
She's a 10.
Oh, she's a tight 10.
Next.
10.
Next.
10.
Next.
10.
Next.
10.
Obviously.
Personality.
Yeah, personality.
Personality is a fucking 10.
She's a very pretty face.
Now that we've looked at some women, look, some people might dispute if, you know, some of them might not have been 10s, but those are some very attractive women.
Just to be clear, I just want to get a temperature check on the women who did say they're 10s.
Is it your position, if you give them a 10, you give yourself a 10, or a high grade?
Comparatively, would you still put yourself as a 10?
Like, are you guys, essentially, are you just as attractive as those women?
Yes.
I don't compare myself to other women, but there's nothing I change about myself.
Well, aside from your lips and your breasts, which you didn't.
They already changed them.
Well, right, but they...
Do you want me to do a pre-reading?
Because you're looking at me right now in the moment and I have them.
No, no, but so were you a 10 before the lip filler and the breast implants?
No, I didn't think so.
Okay, interesting.
Does that change anything for you?
No, still a 10.
So just as good looking as Megan Fox and just.
Jessica Alba and Taylor Hill.
I think her name is Taylor Hill.
And Evangeline.
I can't remember.
Lily?
I'm trying to remember that girl.
The first girl's name, whatever.
Okay, just as good looking as them.
Okay, what about you?
Yeah.
Very good.
And then the other women who said, I think that's, who was the other 10?
Me.
Oh, are you just as good looking as all those women?
I'm sure.
Put me in the same room.
Bro, y'all are fucking delusional.
Delusional.
Okay, tell you what.
If I, question, who do you guys think you, the guys who you said were, did you guys say who you think is a male 10?
No.
Give me male tens.
Trey Rick Ruthers.
You think he's a 10?
Give me a male 10?
Logan.
I didn't know that name.
The guy, any other male 10s?
Brad Pitt when he was young, Leonardo DiCaprio when he was young.
Just conventionally attractive people, though.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
So, is that what you define as a 10 is like someone who's conventionally attractive?
I don't know.
It seems like we're mudding the waters with this idea of conventional.
Well, because that's how I think.
I think Tom Holland's attractive.
He's still, yeah.
I think Tom Holland's attractive.
He's not a conventional 10, and I would still, I would, if you walked through that door right now, I would leave pounce with him.
But so, um, I feel like if I were to say, well, I'm just as attractive as all these like men that you just listed, you guys would be like, Absolutely not, Brian.
Absolutely not.
Not being self-help.
So, let me ask you guys a question.
Let me change my answer.
I'm a 10.
I think I'm a 10.
My face is a 10.
My body's a 10.
And guys, fucking stop.
It's been all fucking night.
We told you not to be doing the sidebars.
This thing or whatever that all of you are doing is fucking useless and pointless.
It's terrible for a fucking audio.
Knock it the fuck off.
Here.
That's a fucking yellow card for you guys.
The next is a red.
And then, you know, you don't want to see what happens when the fucking red card comes out.
You get fucking lashes.
You get fucking the cane.
Just kidding.
We don't do corporal punishment here at the whatever podcast, but I don't know.
You get other shit happens.
I'll curse you.
You get a fucking curse.
You can't curse me.
Continue.
Continue.
I already did some black magic in the bathroom.
So, anyways, fuck it.
If I said, you know what, I'm just as good looking as all the guys who you think is a 10, would you disagree with me?
I'd be happy for you.
You're somebody's 10.
Bro, that's not the question that was asked.
You're not bad.
Again, would you agree with me with my assessment that I'm just as attractive as Tyreek or Logan or Brad Pitt?
No, are you happy?
I didn't rate myself a 4.5.
I don't know.
Yeah, I'm perfect for a 10.
It's the same way where you may not perceive me as a 10, and that's okay, but I perceive myself as a 10.
So you can perceive yourself as a 10, and I might not see it as 10.
This relates to standards.
And we were having this conversation, and she was saying, well, men are just as delusional as women.
No, women are really delusional about their own self-assessment of how attractive they are, especially when it comes to looks, especially when it comes to looks.
What do you want to rate me?
Because I feel like it's a lot of fun.
I'll give you guys, and I'm not going to, even though you guys have been pretty feral tonight, not all of you, but most of you have been a little feral.
I'm not going to intentionally be malicious and give you, you know, rate you low just because you've been annoying.
I'll just look at you.
I'll see how your face looks, and I'll give you as fair a rating as possible, not factoring in the feralness of tonight's panel.
I'll do that in just a moment.
But again, you guys would clown on dudes.
You guys would clown on dudes who are like, I'm more, I'm a fucking 10.
And it's like, maybe that's why they get cock rating.
Maybe that's why they get cock rating.
Because like if we were to rate their face or whatever, they'd rather have their text rated than their face.
Yeah, so look, ultimately, though, ultimately, the reason I asked this question, the reason why I think it's important, you guys might think, Brian, this is kind of rude or, you know, it's silly.
And it's like, if we're having conversations about standards, if you think you're more attractive than you actually are, you're going to be holding out for a certain caliber of guy that, frankly, again, even tying back into this, maybe he'll fuck you.
Maybe he'll keep you around casually.
Maybe you might get situationship, but you're not going to get commitment.
You're not going to get the ring.
You're not going to get married.
You're not going to get that.
Now, look, I'm speaking in generality.
Sometimes people get lucky and they get somebody out of their league.
But again, you guys are just, again, this is a panel overall in totality.
This is a panel of average women.
No.
It's a panel of average women.
Like, I'm not saying that to insult you.
I don't give a fuck.
Please make ridiculous.
We don't care about my looks.
Yeah.
It's very average.
It's a very average panel.
And I think I'm in some ways can be being a bit generous here.
I'm being a little generous.
And I just think that there's, there's so, look, dating is difficult enough as it is.
And there's record high levels of delusion among women.
Y'all really think you're more attractive than you actually are.
And look, pay it is what it is.
But I think what that's going to translate to is you're going to be chasing after a caliber of guy you'll never fucking get.
When you finally settle down for the guy who's actually willing to be in a relationship with you, you're going to have so much fucking resentment for this guy because you're thinking about, oh, that guy had more money.
That guy was better in bed.
That guy was better looking.
All these factors because y'all waiting until 30, late 20s, 30 to get married, to start a family, to have kids.
Women Overestimating Attractiveness00:14:59
You've been ran through.
You've had a bunch of dick.
And then you've dealt with these guys who are high status, high value, whatever, hyper attractive.
And then the guy who's actually on your league, who you think you're settling for, but it's actually your equivalent, you think you're dating down.
You're going to resent that man.
You're going to have resent.
There's going to be resent in the relationship.
You're not going to treat him well.
It's going to be a fucking dead bedroom within a couple years.
And he's going to have to do chores to get some pussy.
And then it's like, okay, on our anniversary, you give him a fucking begrudging low job.
And that's it.
And then you get divorced.
You take half his shit.
That's a painful experience.
That's why you break up.
I'm speaking for observation.
Who hurt me?
I don't understand.
I don't understand.
Just because you have a criticism of the modern dating hellscape, that that's a reflection of, oh, who hurt you?
Also, I hope it's not.
I'm not saying that, but.
You shouldn't change your standards of the way you love or anything just because of the general public, what they think or what the statistics is.
I don't give a fuck about that.
I don't even care if I get a husband.
I'm trying to compare my own nuts.
Like a pay pay.
Like, that's why I never mention, like, I need a ton of money for my future husband.
No, I just.
I want to cook and clean and treat them well.
And I want them to treat me well.
And I want them to, you know, respect me.
Hold on.
That's a separate convo.
I want to come back to what you were saying.
You're saying it's okay to just have all these expectations.
Look, you got to be realistic about where you stand and who you can get.
You said if I'm chasing something, I'm not chasing anybody.
No, I'm not chasing anybody.
If they want me, like she said earlier, they can come get me.
This is my stipulations.
These are my commandments.
And if you don't want to follow my commandments, then get the fuck off me.
You're not, no, bye, boom.
What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, is that you got to understand where you stand in the dating marketplace and the value proposition that you offer.
Like, if you're an average chick, you're not going to get the six foot three Giga Chad.
But that's what I'm saying, Brian.
I stand 10 toes down on the fact that I'm a baddie and I'm a 10.
And if he sees me as a 10 and he can hit all my points.
Wait, you said you were four.
Well, I thought you were talking about to the general public, but to me, I'm a 10.
Well, to you, even to you, you're a 10.
I'm a 10.
Yeah, I mean, look, again, this is just delusional.
I think Your own rating of yourself is inextricably linked to uh because when we're talking about attractiveness, like I guess you could be what's the term for like auto-sexual?
Like you're just attract, you're sexually attracted to yourself.
I guess that could be a thing.
Attraction is determined external to you.
Attraction is something that happens external to you.
Other people's assessments of you.
That's our and that has to be grounded in reality, not delusional.
I think I'm a 10, therefore I'm a 10.
To you, that doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense.
Too young on, I have a chat coming through.
Thank you, man.
Thank you, Justin.
Justin donated $100.
You play how you practice.
Delusion is as delusion does.
Very rarely is it reserved to just one aspect of reality.
This feminist ideology of everyone should love themselves 10 tenths is absurd and toxic.
It's not feminism.
Thanks, Justin.
Base as fuck.
I think you need it.
I'm going to say, like, I actually personally would rate myself lower, but in the eye of everybody else, I feel like I'm a baddie.
Like, I don't even think that.
I don't even care how I look, to be honest.
How about this?
Is thinking you're a 10 the same thing as being a 10?
It can be.
No.
But I don't, no, I don't think I'm a 10.
Maybe I would rate myself from my own personal view like a seven.
Okay, so yes.
But the way I get treated, it's like one million.
Yeah.
I get treated like a princess.
I can't help it.
Of course, men will be able to get a temple.
But no, but I get treated by high value.
Men will simply simp over like subpar, like, oh my God, you're okay.
Well, there's something about it that's worth it.
It's not the metric.
I thought you said what everybody else said the general.
Yeah.
No, you said the general.
Sexual attention from men.
No, not sexual.
You have to give it up for it.
Okay.
Just because guys will be simps and they'll shower you with compliments and they'll be lusting after you, that doesn't constitute.
Like, you would agree that there's fat chicks, like obese women, that are bombarded by men.
That are hot and sexual.
Yeah, dude.
I've seen my fat friends get most of it.
So just because you're just because women have the experience of being pursued, because that's just the culture, the social, what's the status quo, I guess.
That doesn't mean just because men are demonstrating, maybe they could be super simp and maybe they could want something long-term with you.
That doesn't mean you're a 10.
Because an average guy sees an average woman, oh wow, I'm going to try to date her.
And he could be all into her.
That doesn't make her a 10.
Well, if I'm average getting treated how I get treated, I am grateful to be here.
Okay, well, we're not talking about how you can.
No, I'm going to rate myself a seven.
Okay, let me ask you a question.
Would you agree?
6.5.
Let me ask you a question.
Would you agree it's logically possible that a woman who's like just clearly really ugly could be treated really well?
Yes.
Okay.
Would this be evidence of her being a 10 or is this just evidence of her being treated well by somebody?
She's probably 100%.
She's there.
Something about her that's attracting them.
So everybody's just everybody's no, because everybody doesn't get treated like that.
Yeah.
So just to be clear, a supermodel, let's say she gets treated like shit.
Is she a zero?
Does she think she's a 10?
I mean, she's probably.
Hold on.
Using your framework.
So a supermodel who gets treated like fucking dog shit.
It gets abused.
Dude, my life.
Yes.
Is she a zero?
Yes.
I mean, check out Didi's wife.
One better for yourself.
So the ugliest woman in the world who gets treated amazingly, she's a 10.
And the most beautiful woman in the world who gets treated poorly, she's a zero.
Okay, makes sense.
It's all on you.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know because you're the one that said how the public perceives what the rating should be.
So that's why I was using that logic.
Ooh, how about this?
I'm going to rate you guys, but you guys rate me.
Okay, sure.
But don't be all fucking retarded about like, Brian, you've been the massive dick tonight.
Rate me just on looks.
I'm not going to be offended.
Give me a looks rating.
Can you give us a 360?
I'm not going to do that.
It's just next to me.
You need a cop rating, too.
I remember.
Give me a looks rating.
Okay, full head of hair.
We love to see it.
Oh, yeah.
You got pretty eyes.
I love it.
It's my only charm.
You're not my typical type.
So, like, if I were.
She only dates black guys.
I'm just not my typical type.
I would say, like, you know what?
Solid.
Just say it.
I'm not going to be offended.
Go ahead.
Solid six.
That's generous.
She is being generous, but thank you.
Go ahead.
Give me a rating.
I think you were realistic.
4.5.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Give me a rating.
Wait, how old are you?
36.
X.
Yeah.
Honestly, not bad.
6.5 to 7.
Okay.
Over.
In that range.
That's in the overrated.
In that range.
All right.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
I'll give you this, Brian.
You're smart, you're tall, you got hair.
It's just looks.
The thing is, you're really autistic and you're kind of fat.
So we'll give you a four.
Okay, go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
I would give you.
I'll give you a six.
You just got to do something with your hair.
You got to do something else with your hair.
Okay.
You could like fluff it out or something.
Go ahead.
Give me a rating.
Like a three, four.
Okay.
What about you?
The fuck?
I mean, I like white men and I think like she has a big labia.
She's fantastic.
I have a big labia.
You said that gives two points.
Extra.
Your eyes are beautiful.
I like the beard.
It's something to tickle.
I should go on a date.
Your hair is nice.
No, he likes Asian girls.
You like the eyeball, Pino, but I don't want Asian.
You can sound Asian, though.
I can sound Asian for you, honey.
Yeah, I got you.
I'd say I give you the 7.8.
Woo!
Off the charts tonight, Brian.
What about you?
Yeah, full head of hair.
That's good for that age.
Absolutely.
I would put into account income.
I'm assuming the income is good.
So, and I want to be nice.
Just be honest.
Be honest.
I want to be nice and honest.
I would, okay.
Clothing, okay.
It's merchandise-wise.
It's merchandise-wise.
I would say a seven.
Yeah.
All right, you guys are overrating all of that.
That's so nice.
Okay, but like it's basically for some of y'all, I'd be fucking, y'all would be massively settling for me, which is interesting.
That's sad that you're a cat.
Yeah, you have a cat.
What do you mean?
What did you rate me again?
A six.
A six.
And you gave yourself a ten?
Sure.
So you would be going four points down.
Like if we were dating, right?
You'd be going four points.
Like you'd be massive.
Maybe she likes to be a little bit more.
Honestly, it's sad that you think about yourself.
From your perspective, like you'd be massively, massively settling for me.
Like you'd be, this would be like pity.
I think I could upgrade you more.
It'd be a pity relationship.
Well, maybe we can both hit Weight Watchers and we can do something together, but maybe we could.
Yeah, so I mean, but ultimately, I guess that's what I'm trying to get out here is I do think that women overestimate their standing and they underestimate men's standing.
I'm not talking about me, I'm speaking in general.
Women are very generous with their own assessments of their own attractiveness or even other women's attractiveness, but very harsh with assessments of men.
And basically, when you have women who only find 5%, 10% of men attractive, but you're a 50% woman, wow, that's a recipe for disaster.
It's a recipe for disappointment.
You're going to go jump from dick to dick to dick, not be able to get commitment from a guy.
And then eventually, maybe you do settle.
You're going to resent the guy you settle with because you think you're settling.
And I don't think it's settling if, you know, bird's eye view, looking at the chessboard of dating, it's actually your equal.
But if you think you're here and you think the guy's down here, fucking terrible recipe, terrible recipe.
You're going to resent the guy.
You're going to cheat on him.
You're going to get divorces coming.
Divorce is coming.
You said this was just off looks, though.
Yeah.
And then the other sentence rating was just off looks.
I mean, it's because if you're counting everything else, then that's different.
Yeah, I like ugly.
It's all kind of.
Yeah, a lot of women do.
I like them hot and sexy.
Yeah, there's other things that men can do to make them attractive.
That can do it.
You said you're smart, but the autism just takes it down a point.
Yeah.
There's other things that can make a man attractive.
Personality, humor, confidence.
Charisma.
Charisma.
Cox eyes.
There you go, cock size.
Thank you for your breath.
Contribution.
These sorts of things.
Their breath stinks, but they're hot.
I'm sorry.
You gotta go.
Yeah, so I'm trying to think, oh, I guess I'll do the ratings now.
Yeah, I'll do the ratings.
I'll give you guys ratings.
And again, I'm not even if I think you rated me low, or I'm, you know, I'm not going to be, I'm not going to intentionally rate you low because I dislike you.
That was evil.
That was an evil laugh.
What?
Which, to be honest, is probably most of you at this point.
So just kidding.
No hard feelings.
No hard feelings.
Just stunning personalities tonight.
All right.
So, okay, Brian, shut the fuck up.
All right.
Come on.
Shut up, Brian.
All right.
Rating, Oh, really quick before I get into that, if I do the scale, five is average, six is cute, seven is pretty, eight is beautiful, nine is elite, ten is perfect.
Oh my god, it's 20.
Does that change anything for anybody?
What was it?
You said five is average.
I don't know.
You should have been paying attention, I guess.
Five is cute.
No, six is cute.
I feel like that's what I do.
Seven is pretty.
Yeah, fill in the blanks.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah.
And then it's perfect.
Yeah.
And then ten is gorgeous.
Ten is perfect.
Ten is perfect.
I don't think there actually are any tens that are women.
There's so.
That's very much.
How would that be?
Men can't be tens.
Men are the only ones that can be tens.
No, but my point is, is nobody's perfect.
So you could have somebody who's like, it depends how you want to do the scale, like nine, or you could say 9.9 even, but nobody's perfect.
Except Jesus.
Nobody's perfect.
Maybe AI could make a perfect woman, maybe.
I feel like perfect isn't attractive, though.
Definitely be attractive.
Perfect would definitely be attractive.
Like a perfect person that, like, that you're not attracted to that because you more like want to emulate.
Like, there's nothing weird to look at.
I mean, there's no quirky.
Well, if a perfect looking woman or perfect looking man, I think they'll probably have better prospects in not just dating, but in life.
Because looks, pretty privilege extends beyond just dating.
That confers massive benefits.
Just, I mean, shit, you get arrested.
If you're better looking, the jury's gonna look at you differently.
People are more like forgiving of people who are attractive.
People are more trusting of attractive people.
That's gonna translate to like the corporate world.
You get a lot of free stuff.
Get in everywhere.
Yeah, and if you're really attractive, that gives you into certain career fields.
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That gives you an opening.
Like you could be, it helps with acting.
It helps with anything that's like, I mean, even like not entertainment field, like sales.
That's if you're good looking, that's huge, huge, huge, huge.
People just, I don't know, people find good-looking people more trustworthy, all kinds of other things.
Psychology.
There it is.
There it is.
Okay, let's do the looks ratings here.
So starting with you.
Well, you are wearing quite a bit of makeup.
Okay.
So you do have the lip filler, which is going to have a bit of an impact.
Can you turn your face that way?
Turn your face the other way.
Okay.
Have you had any?
Have you had a lip flip?
Leg augment lip augmentation?
So just the lip filler you've had.
Any Botox in the face at all?
Not recently.
Okay.
So I would say you're in terms of attractiveness, you're above average.
Not a 10, though, but you are, you're above average.
I want to say, I'm curious what the chat thinks.
I'm still going to give my rating.
You don't want a rate, bro.
No, I'll give the rating.
I'm just curious what the chat thinks because I want to say, hmm.
The makeup makes it a little difficult to give a rating, but I want to say 6.7.
Sorry, 6.5.
All right.
So between 6, she's going to like this.
I'd say between 6 to 7, I'll just land at 6.5 for the rating.
You, let's see.
Oh, I should.
Hold on.
So originally, you gave yourself a 10.
I'd give you 6.5.
For you, you gave yourself a 10.
I would say, can you turn that way?
Can you turn that way?
Oh, no, he's going to side check me.
Yeah.
Let's see.
I think I'd give you a 5.5 or 6.
That's diabolical.
Yeah.
Damn, if I'm 5.5.6 at this point, you can exempt me.
I don't want to do this because I'm cold.
5.5.
What did I say?
5.56 for you?
You, you are wearing quite a bit of makeup, especially around the eyes.
Do you have to lip filler or anything?
Okay, so you gave yourself 8 face.
Okay.
Can you turn that way?
Your face that way?
I can't.
What?
Turn that way?
My neck hurts.
Oh, my God.
So you're look fast.
I mean, your side profile.
I actually, wait, turn that way.
Oh, you have a good side profile.
I mean, honestly, I think your side profile is stronger than your front.
Like your side profile is.
This is the side.
This is the bad side.
Okay, I think your side profile is actually stronger than your front, but.
I do hit a lot of side angles with my side.
Okay.
So you gave yourself an eight.
I'd give you, again, a lot of makeup.
I think you're 5.5.
You, your hair is not doing you any favors.
So.
I have good teeth.
I think she's so adorable.
I don't think she's so pretty.
Thank you.
I think you're really cute.
Thank you.
So you do have an interesting.
Yeah, you're doing the opportunity.
That's definitely going to make you a tiny idea.
So cute.
You can go to chip.
Also, normally I give like one positive, one negative.
I missed that.
I didn't do that for you guys, but I feel like you call me fat, so I kind of got it.
You gotta hit the gym, bro.
I gotta give you, hey, look, but I acknowledge I'm chubby.
I think you couldn't say that to a woman.
Like, a girl would be like broken, bereft besides herself if you called her fat.
There's nothing wrong with being chubby or fat.
Like, I'm like, yeah, you're right.
Who's anybody here black?
Are you part black?
Anyone in the chat black?
All right, so here, I'll give you one positive, one negative.
One positive, one negative.
Okay.
Shit, that's going to be the puzzle.
Oh my god.
Bro.
The positive might be a bit hard.
Let me see what I can do.
I mean, let me start with the negative then.
I mean, facial proportions are unique.
You do have a wide face, which is.
You have a wide moon, like a bit of a moon face, I guess.
What if I do this?
That is worse.
That is a wide, you do have a wide moon.
Yeah, it's pretty.
Yeah, you were really cute.
Jawline.
Yeah, check it out.
Okay.
So I guess, did you give me a positive?
Yeah, I did.
I told you you were smart.
Okay, I'll give you a positive.
I'm tall.
And you had good hair.
Yeah.
Let's see here.
Let the glazing begin.
Yes.
Your eyebrows are decent.
Oh, there you go.
And I think I like your eyes.
You have nice eyes.
Oh, thank you.
Like, hold on, let me just do this.
Like, Mulan.
Oh, yeah, nice eyes.
She does.
Thank you.
I like her.
Thank you.
At least for your phenotype.
You have nice eyes.
What's a phenotype?
Don't worry about it.
It's a phenotype.
Don't worry about it.
All right.
Oh, the total rating.
Okay.
Wait, what's my bad?
Oh, you said my hair.
Well, your hair and then the wide face is.
I'll tell you something about that.
The facial proportions are a bit less than ideal.
I think I'd, honestly, I'd give you maybe 4.75, maybe a 4.5.
Okay, it's not that bad.
Yeah.
You, can you take your glasses off temporarily, please?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Can you look that way?
She's cool.
Can you look that way?
By the way, this is just face aesthetics.
Okay, so you and me, we struggle with the same dilemma: is that when you are overweight, that creates that does deposit fat in the face.
I've got the fatty face because I'm currently overweight.
So because we're both a bit overweight, I'd say.
I do think, though, overall, you do have an aesthetic face, but you are wearing, you do have the fake lashes.
You're wearing a decent amount.
I think if you could, honestly, if you thinned down a little bit, if you thinned out a little bit, like if you lost weight, thin down the bottom.
Let's go to the gym together.
Let's fucking do it.
The first to lose the gym bro.
Yeah.
Guess what?
I don't know.
Do you have kids?
No.
I was about to say your firstborn child, but adoption.
I don't know.
That sounds retarded.
Never mind.
Sorry, sometimes you throw, you improvise and some stupid shit comes out.
Okay.
Okay.
Rating.
I think I'm going to.
And she's not wearing any makeup.
I think I'm going to give you.
Yeah, she has good skin.
I think I give you a 4.8 to 5.5.
Damn, everybody's a fucking person.
4.8 to 5, I think.
We're just not going to be able to get a fancy.
All right, you.
You are wearing a lot of makeup.
Can you turn your face that way?
Other way?
Okay.
You're wearing a lot of makeup.
Quite a bit of makeup.
It's going to make it hard to give a rating.
You gave yourself.
Wait, did I repeat your rating?
You gave yourself a 10.
I forgot to do some of these repeats of the rate.
You gave yourself a 9?
What the fuck?
No, I think you gave...
They're going to talk about a face.
Oh, sorry.
I'm not judging body.
I'm just doing face rating.
I'm not doing body total rating.
Just face.
Oh, okay, yeah, face height.
You gave yourself a nine?
I would say it's a lot of makeup.
I like pretty much a makeup.
I'm just going to go ahead and say 5.5.
Just it's hard to assess without the makeup.
You?
Okay.
I didn't know.
Well, I was trying to look good, so I would have took out my makeup.
There's nothing wrong with you wearing makeup.
I post without makeup all the time, too.
I look crazy, but I do have to.
I have really clear skin, Brian.
Really good skin.
I just didn't have time to do my makeup today, so I was like, Lashes, you.
You?
Hmm.
I do have to consider the phenotype.
What does that even mean?
Oh, because I'm black?
Well, you have to kind of sometimes do a rating under the phenotype.
I think I'd give you 4.5.
I'd give you 4.5.
In the black category or in general?
I don't even know at this point.
You, you gave yourself an 8.
Wait, you gave yourself a 4.
So I'm not.
I actually overrated you then from your perspective.
You said 4.5?
I think, yeah, 4.5, I think I said.
What's your biggest hype?
Okay, anyways, moving on.
You gave yourself an 8.
I'm just going to look in the monitor here.
Can you turn your face that way?
Oh, cuteness.
I like it.
I'm going to say between, I think I'm going to have to go 3.675 to 4.25 in between there, in that range.
And again, I give myself 4.5.
So there it is.
There it is.
What is a phenotype?
Don't worry about it.
Bro, he's being racist.
I think it is.
I'm afraid of Santa Claus.
No, it's not.
Or feet.
P12.
Thank you for the gifted.
Appreciate it.
Mary, do you have the gender swap?
We've put all AI.
We have gender swapped you.
So the question is: would you date the male version of you?
Yeah, probably.
Off of what images did you gender swap of?
Oh, right.
Little Chinese.
Okay.
Wow.
Wait.
You're not bad.
Well, which is it?
One goes to the gym and one doesn't?
There's two options.
Oh, okay.
Would you date the male you?
I like the one on the right because he looks more fit.
And I'm very, I go to the gym almost every day.
So that to me is like nice.
All right.
So yes, you would date him?
Yeah.
Okay.
So fire.
Not bad.
He's actually trying to see how the heck you guys get this.
Yeah, skate.
He's literally a skater.
Yeah.
And a skater.
All right.
Hold on.
Nice.
All right.
Next.
That's just my swap.
Yeah, wait.
He's kind of cute, though.
But that first.
That's not me.
That's crazy.
I know they did you some favors.
They did.
Oh, ah!
No, the little Chinese boy cute.
I like him.
Yeah, my little Kim Young.
That don't even look like I think they're being maybe a little bit.
They're kind of being racist right now.
I'm God.
Hello, Races.
I love the buzz colour.
You're Asian.
The first picture is not accurately even me.
They run it through AI.
They run the bad.
I'm so gorgeous.
I couldn't even count her.
No, they couldn't.
They didn't get her nose right.
Wait, you think she's worse looking?
Yeah, that does not look like her.
Look at her neck.
Look at her nose.
Why is her nose like that?
Look, look.
I mean, look, it's AI.
It's going to take some liberties.
Would you date the male version?
Yeah, he's cute.
Okay.
He looks like he breaks.
He's an egg roll.
Next.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, he's cute.
He is kind of cute.
The middle.
He looks like a football player.
He's not looking like me.
They're doing a lot of favors on the AI version.
Bruh.
Would you date them?
Yes, no.
Would you date him?
The middle one, yeah.
It's not a good personality.
Do something strange for a piece of chicken special.
I'm going to get the AI photos after this.
Oh, I'm scared, actually.
Fried.
No, he's fine, actually.
He looks like he would be a boxer.
Yeah, a boxer.
Like, you know, bruises and scratches.
Just for time, can we just get quick answers on this, please?
Would I date that?
Yeah, that's the question.
Yeah, that's me.
I'm going to date me.
Okay, cool.
Next.
I'm so scared.
Oh, that does not look like me.
That does not look like me.
I mean, basically, no one has dirty.
No.
That's you.
No, that does not look like me.
I mean, that's you.
That is definitely not.
Would you date him?
No, he looks sad.
Down syndrome.
That is not me, bro.
Do another AI photo.
She's everything.
Read the AI photo because I look like I have Down syndrome too.
It's not right.
Oh, my God.
No.
Actually, that's.
Wait, he's kind of like.
Yeah, he's fine as shit.
Get in the car, Elizabeth.
Post-apocalyptic photo.
No.
You wouldn't date him?
Okay, next.
Oh, would you date him?
That doesn't look like me.
That's a bad photo.
Who is that?
My nose?
Yeah.
Yes, I would date that guy.
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You got to suspend some display.
That guy's not bad.
Yeah, and he's bad.
That's not bad.
Isn't he cute?
You know?
Yeah, I date him, but that does not look like me.
Okay, next.
I do not look like that.
Oh, my God.
Why does he look like a murder eight?
They can't be dirty.
He looks like a killer.
That is not me.
Which one?
The woman or the man?
Neither.
Yeah, that's pretty much it.
I mean, that's pretty solid.
That's so bad.
That is so bad.
That's spot on.
There's no way.
It's not.
I don't think it looks like you.
No.
It's not that bad.
No, it's not bad.
They got rid of your jawline a lot.
I don't know how much time.
Yeah, it's not that bad.
It's bad, but it's not that bad.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
Can we do yours now as a female?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We got it.
We got it.
They did.
Oh, my God.
All right.
This is.
I'm looking at it.
Okay, do it.
I hope you're not a baddie.
Go ahead.
Why did they give you a freaking nick?
Yeah, why did they begin?
There's no way.
I don't know.
I wouldn't hit him.
You look faded.
Y'all see that?
I do.
Do we have the other one, Mary, or no?
I will take me a second.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Yeah, she's attractive.
You're really different.
I date her.
I did.
They did.
I mean, they did me.
Dirty is doing redo for the ones that were done wrong.
For my female tiny.
She looks like a current.
Okay.
All right.
Let's see here.
Where are we at?
Let me see if I lost any chats here.
Mary, go ahead and pull up Twitch.
We need to do Twitch really quick.
Guys, TTS, $99.
Get it in.
Guys, I'm holding this shit hostage.
1,400 people watching just on Twitch.
What I'd like to see is some people, some follows trickling in.
V12, thank you for the 10 gifted.
Thank you, man.
You're a fucking legend.
Guys, three prime subs.
It's been 44 minutes since we've had a prime.
I need to see three prime subs.
This shit is hostage.
Guys, I don't, for every hour we stream on Twitch, we only run three minutes of ads.
I'm not.
I'm not being a goblin like all these other Twitch streamers where you get fucking crazy ads.
I don't do a pre-roll, so you get to join the stream.
You don't have to sit through an ad.
So show some support on Twitch because I'm not trying to fuck up the viewer experience over there on Twitch.
I'm always, you know, we keep the ads low as we keep it to the minimum to enable not having a pre-roll ad.
So let me see some prime subs.
I need to see three prime subs.
Show some support over there.
Check if you have a prime sub available.
10 code.
Thank you for the prime man.
Really appreciate it.
Just check really quick.
Do you have a prime sub available?
Show some support.
Drop us a prime sub.
If you have one, 10, thank you.
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One more prime sub.
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You guys are legends.
Really appreciate the support over there.
Thank you.
All right.
What's the next thing, Marrington?
What else do we have?
Is there other Reacts or did we do all of it?
There was the one X post by Dre.
Who's Dre?
Is that you?
Are you Dre?
What?
Are you Dre?
We had a post from your Twitter.
Let's just, yeah, pull it up.
Twitter?
Yeah.
Can you read this?
Oh.
The male species really makes me sick.
I hate y'all for real.
Why is that?
Why is that valid?
Told Guy I Was Pregnant00:05:43
Dude, I don't even know.
Y'all just be on some weird shit sometimes.
Yep.
So you hate those good guys.
No, I don't hate.
Actually, I don't hate men at all.
I think there's good men out there and I think men are necessary.
But like, dude, sometimes y'all just, we be sick of it.
You're just in your moments.
You're like, shit.
I actually remembered when I wrote that tweet.
It was.
All right, you guys talk for a bit.
I need to, I'll be right back in a minute.
It was with my second child's father, and I caught him doing some stuff.
I did not look like that.
I'm going to just put that up.
Oh, my God.
No, AI could not recreate this beauty because that was crazy.
Am I that bad?
No.
Did you see my nose?
That gave me body dysmorphia.
That gave me a way.
Did you guys see my nose?
Like, no.
Yeah, bro.
They made me look so skinny.
Like, I haven't eaten.
And they didn't even get my nose piercing right.
It was like in the middle.
It was like a septum.
I don't have a septum.
Well, guys, I officially need Botox.
I want Botox too.
Where's Emma?
Yeah, where's Emma?
You got it.
You gotta check her out.
Call Emma.
She's in Portland, Oregon.
But she's so good.
If you visit, you have to go to her.
I broke my ex's apartment window and I made him fix it himself.
Oh, I love that.
And then I was going to throw glitter in his house, so he had to, like...
Oh, my God.
I love that.
I should have done it.
Glitter?
His cousin was home.
I didn't know.
Oh, my gosh.
You guys want to hear a funny story?
Same crazy stuff when I ran over my ex.
But okay, after my baby was born, right?
He was still pissing me off.
So, what I do, I grab his selfie, because he's a very pretty boy.
I grab his selfie, I grab his phone number, I put him on back page.
His phone was blowing up for weeks.
So, his back page made some bread.
Like, I put an ad for him.
Yeah, that's what I was doing.
The gay guy's ads.
Yes, I was like, lonely, gay boy, give me the car.
Yo, he had to get a new number everywhere.
You should have just dressed up as him and got that money.
Do you guys look alike?
No.
Oh, no.
I've done some crazy shit.
My ex-husband actually ran me over.
Wow.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, we were fighting and we're young.
We were super young.
And I was trying to hold the steering wheel and then he went in to hold the steering wheel.
And then, like, he just let the car go and it hit me.
And then, like, my whole heel came off.
Oh, what the fuck?
Yeah.
Yeah, but we did some fun shit to each other.
Like, I stabbed him with a fork because I found out you just cheating on me.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
Damn.
Wow.
I wish I could find my ex.
I've never fight women.
You guys don't ever just want to leave.
I don't want to fight women either.
Can I ask you guys, like, you guys don't just ever want to leave instead of just dealing with that shit?
Yeah, that was like my first and only toxic relationship after, like, I was 18.
It was like that camera.
And then we broke up.
We broke up when I was like 19.
So like, that was like the first time I ever got in crazy like that.
After that, I promised myself I was never going to do it again.
And I haven't put my hands on no man.
There you go.
Look at that.
Has a guy ever like pissed me off?
I'm like, I don't know if I can say this, like kill himself over you guys.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I've done that all my life.
All my ex has said that.
I'm never going to do that.
If you say you're going to die for me, I asked that way.
Pregnant.
I've told a guy I was pregnant already.
Right now, I'm like, throw me a compliment.
I told a guy.
Sorry.
I told a guy I was pregnant.
I've told a guy that I want to end my life, but like, that's just because I wanted his babies.
But then I ended up having his babies and I didn't want to be with him no more.
I've done that before.
Yeah, I've done that before.
And guys have done that to me.
Like, they say, oh, I came in you and they didn't really come at me, but they'd say they came at me just to be like, oh, you're pregnant now.
Like, you're mine forever.
Guys have done that to me a lot.
Yeah, I had an ex-boyfriend of mine like pulled up on me because I was like, I'm done.
I want to break up.
And he pulled up on me with a gun and like in front of me just like put it to his head.
Like, I'm going to kill myself if you don't.
And I'm like, what am I to do?
I got to stay in the car and make sure he don't kill himself.
And then like, and then on top of that, he starts driving the car.
And then he gets out of the car with the car still driving and goes down a hill and shoots the gun.
Oh, yeah.
And I thought he killed himself.
My ex-but he didn't.
That's how toxic he was.
He didn't kill himself.
He just wanted me to think that he killed himself.
That's so horrible.
My ex shot up a party once so I can come up by what?
Yeah.
Yeah, like he was hitting me up and he was like, oh, I'm going to come pick you up.
I was like, I'm not coming out.
And then next thing you know, like 20 minutes later, all here is like, everybody's running.
And he's like, bitch, come on now.
I was like, I'm coming.
Damn.
I've been in some pretty toxic relationships, but I'm better now.
I have kids.
Like, you have to be better for your kids.
Yeah, honestly, having kids really calmed me down.
Yeah.
But my ex, too, that saying, it's my first baby daddy.
That was the only one I was talking about.
He also used to tell me all the time, like, I'm going to kill myself.
I'm going to kill myself.
To the point where I was all like, boy, do it.
You lying.
Right.
Damn.
They be lying, but they be lying because they're really not finna do it.
It's just, they're trying to get to your head.
If they say you're going to dash me, die.
Right.
It's like, oh, I'm not going to eat your butt, but you're down there.
They're going to eat my butt.
I know, girl.
You haven't.
Sorry.
I know.
I don't feel like I'm relating.
I'm like trying to think if I have anything.
I ran myself over with a car and then it kind of ended there.
I was like, fuck.
How do you run yourself over with a car?
OnlyFans And Moderators00:04:20
That's a good question.
I used to be really into cars, so I had a C4 Corvette, and the alternator died like three times in a row.
And they put in two bad alternators after.
It was crazy.
But I was at a stoplight, and everyone's honking at me because my car won't move.
And so I'm like, fuck, I'm freaking out.
And so I'm like, I got to move my car.
And again, I'm young, I'm 16.
And so I push it, you know, and I'm like, okay, I'll jump in.
But instead of jumping in, I just fell under the car and I had a big tire mark and I broke my ankle.
And then the car went into a bush and there was like a car imprint for months.
Wait, hold on.
You were 16 with a Corvette?
Dude, I've been hustling.
Yeah, I've just been working since I was 15.
Then I got a 1991 Cadillac Seville, and then I got a C4 Corvette, which was cheap.
They're like $4,500.
They used to be.
They went up in value, fortunately.
Didn't keep mine.
But yeah, I've had like eight cars.
Who are you?
So let me ask you this, though.
Like, since you seem like you have pretty much a lot of things that a lot of people don't have, why is it that you do OnlyFans?
What do you mean?
Like, you have a lot of things that a lot of people wish that they had, like, all these cars.
Maybe you have a nice home that you live in.
That usually, like, maybe, I don't know if you guys, you know, you're strippers or whatever.
I've been a stripper there too before.
And we might not have a really nice house or a really nice car.
And we want to work for that kind of stuff.
So that's why we do OnlyFans or strip or whatever.
But you, in my perspective, is like you already have all that stuff.
So why are you doing OnlyFans?
At the end of the day, I want to.
Because you can't make that amount of money in any other industry.
But not that it's even about money.
I enjoy the marketing aspect and I enjoy the freedom of it and being online so I can also go to school and like, you know, categorize my own time.
Can't you do other stuff on OnlyFans though?
You don't have to like show your butthole or anything.
You can do I've seen people do cooking stuff.
I have a question.
I've done a baking live and I stayed in a bikini the whole time.
I just baked.
Wait, I have a question.
So what did you do before the bikini?
I've had a lot of jobs.
With the one right before Bikini was a preschool teacher.
The CIA donated $100.
Brian, you either need to bring some sensible counterpoint people on or shrink the size of the panel back to what it used to be.
Confirmation by us without challenge is getting old.
Have you been watching the show?
I was.
I've been challenging the entire night.
I mean, thank you for the TTS.
Let me get your others that I just see now that are coming through.
CIA.
The CIA is crazy.
The CIA.
Oh, I got it.
Oh, this is somebody else.
Based Justin donated $100.
The last three melee eyes should be deported to Scott.
Perhaps another question in addition to body count.
Have you committed felonies of a domestic nature?
Assault, stalking, fraud, trafficking, act?
Who told you to ask that?
The CIA?
I know.
Yeah, base Justin.
Okay.
Again, like, bro.
Thank you, Justin, for the TTS.
Appreciate it, man.
We have another one coming in here.
The CIA donated $100.
Nemesis is a cutlaud and should be removed as mod.
Also, this panel is chopped to deserves the asteroid.
Damn.
She got a lot of butterfly women that have the collective Viking of a snail.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Man, fuck you.
I'm smart.
Be nice to Nemesis.
Nemesis has been a mod for a long time.
He's almost always there.
He's very helpful.
I'll know what you did.
And look, he lets a lot slide, so I'll know what you did.
But usually, if you get banned or something, you get timed out.
You did something, okay?
So just don't be doing saying stupid shit in the chat if you don't want to get banned, I guess.
But, anyways, and look, I'm not reviewing like the chat that we get like tens of thousands of chat messages every show.
There's no way for us to really keep tabs really on what's going on in the chat.
But yeah, come on.
Guys, W's in the chat for Nemesis.
This guy's been a mod helping out, volunteer just for a long time.
OnlyFans and Dating Perception00:06:07
Three years, something like that.
What is a mod?
Discord mod, like moderator.
The moderator.
Cool.
It's really not that hard.
Just don't say stupid shit or TOS shit in the chat.
I mean, we let a lot slide.
Those of you who watch the chat, we let so much slide in the chat.
So just don't go overboard with it, though.
Okay, I guess moving things on to the next topic.
Let's see where we were at.
Was there anything else for Reacts, Mary?
Otherwise, you can just close all that shit out, I guess.
I would just like to say I'm Puerto Rican black and Filipino, so my phenotype is very mixed.
You can't just categorize me in one phenotype.
Yeah, you can have shared phenotypes, I guess.
Okay, disagreements.
I guess going to you, OnlyFans doesn't lower your value.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's define our terms.
What do you mean by value?
Like, I don't think it makes me a less desirable person.
And I don't think it makes me less of a good person.
And I don't think it makes me less of a hard worker.
Yeah.
But so we're not talking when we use the term value.
Yeah.
We are talking in a dating context here, right?
We're not talking about intrinsic value.
Well, there's different.
Well, so.
Dating is such a preference thing.
And so if someone didn't want to date me, that'd be okay.
And I don't take that personally at all because of it.
So, but I want to differentiate between intrinsic value, your value as a human, your value, your moral value.
And then you're typically, because I want to assume that when you say value, you're talking dating value.
Sure.
We can do that.
Because I don't ever make the claim, and I don't think most people make the claim that women, whether it's OnlyFans or other things, their intrinsic value is lower because of XYZ.
Humans have basically equal value in terms of their intrinsic moral value.
But when we're referring to value, we're typically talking about dating.
So I guess, I mean, maybe this can be ended very quickly.
It's my position that generally speaking, women who do OnlyFans, that's a negative when it comes to men's assessment in terms of date being like it's negative characteristic or negative thing about a person if they're a sex worker or do OnlyFans.
It's person to person.
So for my personal.
Okay.
But at the same time, I don't put myself out there because I understand how people feel about it.
I have a question.
Yeah.
I want to ask this.
It just came to my head.
Yeah.
What if an OnlyFans boy wanted to date you?
That's a good question.
But he's actually cracking.
But he's all like, it's only for OnlyFans.
Oh, no, because I'm not doing that.
That wouldn't be fair.
But what if he's like, it's cool?
You don't got to crack.
All right, so back to this.
So do you disagree with me, though?
I disagree because I think.
So how about this?
Let's see if we can better define our positions here.
So I agree with you that some men are going to date you and they're going to either tolerate or accept or be okay with the fact that you do OnlyFans.
But would you agree that for maybe, let's say, 51% of men or more, it is suboptimal to date a woman who's a sex worker.
You know, I wouldn't say that.
I actually get a lot more issues with men not getting to hit.
Like, the moment I say I'm waiting till marriage is when most men have an issue.
But the moment I say, like, this is my job, usually there's no issue.
Okay.
So, but that would be sort of your own anecdotal experience.
However, if we're looking at men just who are out there, do you think that it's their preference to date women who do OnlyFans?
Well, I can only use my experiences.
So I would say it hasn't really affected their opinion on me.
You said you've been single for two years and you've failed at establishing any relationships throughout the course of your involvement in OnlyFans.
And you're actively not dating because you seem to.
Why are you not dating if you think it's not an issue?
I don't approach a man.
For one, I don't need a man, but for two, because I understand like what my job is.
And so if a man approaches me, then I'll be honest about it.
And every time a man's approached me and hit on me and want to date me, the issue has been that I won't put out.
Do they approach you at your bikini, barista?
No, I no.
So where do they approach you typically?
Last time it was the gym.
Yeah, I mean, maybe they're trying to hit.
Who knows?
Maybe that's it.
And clearly they're leaving like they're not continuing to deal with you once it's been established that you don't do that.
Although that's, I mean, probably bullshit for engagement.
But ultimately, as it, as on the topic of OnlyFans, this does lower your value in the dating marketplace.
All right.
If you feel that way, I'll let you go.
It's not about how I feel.
It's just, it's objectively true.
It just doesn't bother me because I do so much for myself.
I just don't.
How is that relevant to the conversation in hand?
Okay, buddy.
Well, it's just like incoherent argumentation.
We're talking about does OnlyFans lower your value in the dating marketplace?
So, look, we can.
You're right.
Less men would date me for it.
I would say that.
How about this?
And since you're desirous of a trad dynamic, allegedly, and you're a Christian, I assume you want to date a Christian man who's willing to wait till marriage.
I would argue of the type of men that the guy who's willing to wait until marriage, probably more trad, probably Christian.
Conservative Morals Matter00:02:52
Are you conservative politically?
You're not conservative politically.
Okay.
So you're liberal.
Wow, you're more of a complete middle.
I'm more of a middle ground because I think we have so many issues on both sides that I don't.
I don't care.
is a woman i i personally don't think non-binary is a thing but i think it's fine to be trans But again.
But what is a woman?
A woman is someone that identifies as a female.
And if it's a cis woman, it's someone with a job.
So I could identify as a woman?
Sure, if you want to do that.
Okay, do you believe...
But it wouldn't...
Are you okay with the Second Amendment?
Remind me.
Guns.
Are you okay with the people having guns?
Don't care about guns.
Okay.
Are you fine with the do you think illegal immigrants should be deported from this country?
Not the way it's happening right now.
Okay, sure.
You can have criticisms about the way ICE is doing things, but would you generally agree that assuming you could do this in the most perfect way possible, should we deport illegal immigrants from this country?
I don't care.
I don't personally care if they're here, but I understand people's aspect and other countries do it, and I can see doing it in a very safe way.
But harming people is not okay.
What's happening right now?
Not okay.
So if somebody is being apprehended by ICE and they're resisting arrest, do you think ICE should not, through escalation of force, they shouldn't use force?
Like, should I show up at your door, knock, knock, hi, are you willing to be deported?
Or would you agree that people are- I don't think ICE should be a thing.
Hold on.
That doesn't make any sense.
So what government body should be deporting people?
They're hiring random people who are using their bias in a very angry way right now.
But again, I need to remind you that I'm 19 years old.
I'm learning a lot.
I'm still educating myself, but my morals around human rights and treating people right, that's strong.
And so I know good from bad.
Okay, so you don't think people expecting me to solve government issues is a bit far bound.
Well, I mean, I'm trying to get an assessment here of, you know, your kind of political leanings because that's going to have an impact on your dating prospects.
Okay.
You're going to find that you're definitely, you're going to find that soy boy liberal who's willing to wait until marriage and is also Christian.
You do realize most Christians lean conservative, so that's going to definitely have an impact on your dating process.
I would date a conservative.
I don't have a preference politically.
I have a preference on their morals and how they treat people and women's rights.
Okay.
Women's Birth Position Debate00:03:55
What else?
Are you pro-choice or pro-life?
Pro-choice.
If you don't.
Bro, this is ridiculous.
Bro, Christianity, it's completely incompatible, once again, with Christianity.
You cannot be pro-choice and Christian.
Point blank, period.
I disagree.
I think that a lot of the Bible is original transcript.
Thou shalt not murder.
The church is really clear on this.
You cannot be Christian and pro-choice.
I think there's a difference from, I guess I'm not Christian anymore, y'all.
There's a difference between cells developing and a human baby.
And if you actually learn anatomy and physiology and biology and you go through the facts, I think that there is a certain point where, no, you shouldn't not a fully formed fietus, but I think there is a point.
What is fetus Laddin for?
Who named it?
Probably a man.
How would that be relevant?
Because men take over our health care nowadays, and a lot of it's inaccurate.
The way women give birth was for a man's pleasure.
What?
Yes, the way they gave birth is so a man could watch.
Scientifically, it would be more comfortable for a woman to be in a different position.
If we're going into that, but I heard that.
How would that, hold on, how does that follow?
That because there's a more comfortable position than that women could arguably give birth in ere go, it was some perverted thing so men could watch women.
What?
That doesn't make any sense.
Maybe not to you.
Women, so just to be clear, the current position that some women give birth in, which is on their back, that's for men's pleasure?
Yes, it was originally for men's pleasure.
What evidence do you originally win?
When?
When you say originally, what do you mean a thousand years ago?
I don't know.
Two thousand years ago?
Look it up.
If I'm wrong, I will admit I'm wrong.
I will give you all the wins there.
That's total bullshit.
You're pulling this completely out of your ass.
So I've actually never heard, like I've heard a lot of positions and arguments on the show.
I've actually never heard that women give birth on their backs for the pleasure.
Maybe I'm not sure if that's the right thing.
That's what a teacher at a college told me.
That's why you shouldn't go to college.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I'm wrong.
But that's what I heard.
And you're just relaying information.
I have never heard this argument before.
That's here.
That's completely ridiculous.
that's ridiculous um also it seems like uh so what's the optimum like standing up like on all fours What's the optimum birth position?
Actually, the most comfortable birth position is supposed to be.
You know how they're laying on their back?
They got to lay on their, they got to be on their knees and on their hands.
That's supposed to be the most comfortable position.
I've heard on all fours, but I mean.
There we go.
But why?
How would you jump to seeing Lily of France established laying on the back to look at women and give birth?
But that's then pretty much.
Okay, then maybe I was wrong.
I can admit I'm wrong.
I'm here to learn.
Okay.
That's fine.
That's ridiculous, but okay.
I accept you being wrong, I guess.
I don't think any guy wants to see a baby coming out the vagina hole.
Oh my god.
Okay, guys, this is the situation.
We have a girl who claims she's a virgin who's waiting until marriage, claims she's a Christian.
She claims to be traditional, but she has absolutely zero conservative values whatsoever.
She's basically a liberal.
She's basically a feminist, but she's trad.
She's trad, but she's a feminist liberal.
I don't think I came across very liberal, but you're really in the middle.
I think there's all like major pillars of our issues are not.
Gated Communities & Immigrants00:07:14
I think our issues are above politics.
You're fucking lib.
No, but I'm not even offended by that.
Our issues are above politics.
There's so much more to it.
I don't know what another political thing would be.
Politics is like a big thing in a relationship.
Because if you're building with somebody and you're going to build a family, like how are you going to raise the kids?
You need to.
I mean, look, some people do it, but I think you need to be aligned on values.
Yeah, because then you won't see eye to eye with that person on a lot of things.
Well, values are different.
There can be like political values.
Especially if your phenotypes are different.
You definitely don't.
No, you can't be like Democrat and then your man be Republican.
Maybe like 40 years ago, like when politics weren't as important, people probably was like, whatever.
Or just find someone who doesn't know shit about politics.
Same as you.
I don't know.
There's things I care about and there's things that just I don't.
So it's like guns I don't care about, but that goes like I'm like, hell yeah, get your gun.
I mean, maybe not the like the AK-47s, but do you think we'll know where else to go?
Do you think we should prevent people from crossing the border illegally?
Is this question for everybody or just her?
Well, just her for now.
That's a good question.
Yeah, I mean, I think all countries do it.
I think it's good to make it possible for them to get a green card and come over.
I'm talking about illegal border crossings.
They're not going through the legal process.
They're just.
I don't know.
I feel for families who come here for a better life.
That's why empathy.
I got empathy.
I care about everybody.
Remember?
I don't mind empathy.
Remember at the beginning of the conversation when she was talking about empathy?
This is why it's, I call it toxic empathy, suicidal empathy, where it will be the destruction because, oh, but they really want to come here and they'll have a better life here.
That's true, but at what cost?
And so this pseudocidal empathy will be the absolute catastrophe and downfall of the West.
And it's already starting.
It's already started.
It's been going on for honestly decades at this point.
The globalization, the West is falling.
Europe is fallen.
America's close.
It's totally cucked because women don't want to hurt anybody's feelings.
Guess what?
If we want civilization, we want society.
We need to start telling women there are some things that we're going to have to do politically that are going to hurt your feelings.
We're going to have to hurt women's feelings to ensure a robust, thriving society.
Otherwise, if it was up to women, you would just open the floodgates and we would not, the quality of life in the United States and Europe would be complete fucking disaster.
Total fucking disaster.
And shit.
Yeah, I don't completely disagree with you either.
to be honest.
I think just the way that they're going about it with ICE has been terrible recently.
But if you think about it, they have been doing that for a long time.
Just now it's just more exposed now.
Well, how about this?
You live in Seattle or you're in Washington or something?
Portland, Oregon.
Do you live alone?
You have a one-bedroom, two-bedroom, three-bedroom?
Because it sounds like you do well with your OF and whatever.
So do you have your own?
Yeah, I have a two-bedroom.
You have a two-bedroom and you live alone?
Love it.
Here's what we're going to do.
You have an empty bedroom.
I would like you to, I think we can put two people in that room, maybe a bunk bed.
We can even go triple.
I would like you to house, well, indefinitely, essentially.
Are you willing to house an illegal immigrant?
See, that's a very different situation at hand.
How's it different?
I'm not saying that everyone should just be a lot over.
That's not what I said.
Hold on.
You stumbled when I was even asking about like even Democrats can be like, nah, we probably need like border, whatever, like border security.
Like there's some super far left liberal people who are like, yeah, just open the floodgates.
Even Democrats are kind of like, oh, we're not going to totally go that far.
But you stumbled when I was like, should we just not have border control whatsoever?
So, but you're fine with the legal immigrants being here.
You have a spare bedroom.
Why aren't you housing an illegal immigrant?
I feel like you're taking me and you're trying to make me look really far on one side when honestly, I just don't feel educated enough to talk on it.
That's just how I feel because.
I mean, I'll be honest.
I've housed immigrants before.
Me too.
I helped them escape the board.
I want to hear from these beautiful women because they're older.
But it was a family.
It was a family.
Okay, now it's a family member.
It was a family.
It was family.
Your family?
No, no, no, not my family.
No, not my family.
No.
I mean, look, some people do this, but like the majority of people who are voting for like open for opening up the border or like trying against deportations or who are fine with just rampant like millions upon millions of illegal immigrants coming here every year would never even think to like actually house an illegal immigrant.
They definitely wouldn't do it.
You see the Billie Eilish, these millionaires who live in gated communities with private security and mansions who would under no circumstance ever house an illegal immigrant.
In fact, it was funny.
Recently, Billie Eilish was, I don't know if it was the Grammys or some other award show.
And she was like, there's no such thing.
What is it, the no such thing as...
Illegal on stolen land.
You can't be illegal on stolen land.
And then the tribe on which her multi-million mansion was built, they're like, well, actually, this is our ancestral land.
We'd like to have a conversation with you about you returning our land to us.
It was the Tongva people.
And it's like, these celebrities, these liberal fucking rich people and celebrities are so far divorced from any of the ramifications of immigration, specifically illegal immigration.
They live in their gated communities.
It's never going to affect them.
But like for an American who lives in a border town or America where they're sending all these illegal immigrants to, it has a massive impact, has a massive negative impact.
And ultimately, you know, I think what's funny, too.
I don't know.
When we had the fires and then there was a lot of celebrities asking regular people like us to donate, it's like, what the fuck?
Like, aren't you fucking rich?
And all of us are struggling like a motherfucker.
Are you asking me to donate money when you can literally buy another house right now if you wanted to?
Go donate your money.
Me and my ex-boyfriend literally picked up his friend because Justin donated $100.
I had a friend that was, or me and my ex-boyfriend, we housed our friend, and he was like super entitled, had money, would complain about buying groceries and everything.
And I'm like, what, bro?
Like, we're housing you.
Like, and I, and everybody was giving him stuff.
Like, hotels were giving him free rooms.
And, like, I was like, what the hell?
But to add to your point, like, yeah, I understand that.
I mean, Obama was, Obama has the highest deportation rate.
It's all political.
All the upset about the deportations going on currently.
It's not political.
It's inhumane the way that they're doing it.
Look, they were the facilities that they were housing, these potential deportees or whatever.
It was worse, arguably worse under Obama.
Obama's deporting a bunch of people.
And now they're doing it.
The reality is, when you basically have the entire liberal Democrat apparatus harassing federal government law enforcement, then you're creating this powder keg for potential.
Look, the killings that happened, it's very unfortunate that that happened.
Nobody wants to see anybody get killed or injured or any of these things.
But look, these people are agitators.
They're clearly agitators.
I think in both of the two instances that occurred in, was it Minnesota?
Right?
Yeah.
Is it Minnesota?
Yeah, yeah.
I was getting confused with Wisconsin for some reason.
Well, a lot of people in your phenotype would say that.
Okay, that's great.
Yeah.
In any case, look, if you're going to be like interrupting federal investigations, like recently there was just this famous clip.
It just came out, I think, yesterday or two days ago.
There were ICE agents who were apprehending an illegal immigrant who had like essayed, it's disgusting even saying it, essayed a child.
And this like Karen woman who was following them around, they're like, yo, we're trying to apprehend a guy who has committed sex crimes against children.
And she's like, I don't care.
You guys are the Gestapo, blah, blah, blah.
All this shit.
And it's like, bro, you guys are the entire liberal apparatus is coming out because it's politically expedient to create this powder keg situation where somebody gets killed, something happens.
Like it's beneficial to you guys for this shit to happen because you can use it as political capital and say, oh my God, look at how terrible Donald Trump is.
Look at how terrible ICE is.
Oh my God, blah, Even before any of these killings happened, y'all were protesting against ICE before any bad shit happened because the base level of your objection to ICE, it's not, oh, let's point to the, even if, even if I go ahead and grant and say, yeah, ICE makes mistakes, they do things wrong, maybe there's brutality, maybe they deport the wrong person or they detain the wrong person.
I'm willing to completely grant all of that.
Your objection is foundational.
It's basic.
It's, I don't like that they're deporting illegal immigrants because suicidal empathy.
That's it.
No.
Well.
That's it, point blank.
Crickets here.
Well me personally with the criminals.
I think I know enough to have like a solid space.
Anybody here who is here illegally is a criminal.
Yeah, me personally, I think the deportation is not.
The way they're going about it, it is bad.
But Biden letting all those people come, knowing we have such a big homelessness problem, was not right either.
True.
I can see that.
We need to fix a homelessness before we bring in more people.
And once that gets fixed, I think we can start the process.
Yes, well, that's a great point.
There's citizens we got to take care of.
You got a lot of homeless people, and all these resources that are going to, you know, they'll fly people in.
They'll fly some of these immigrants in.
They'll put them up in like some fancy hotel.
This was going on during COVID.
They'll put them up in a fancy hotel.
Here's a cell phone.
Here's hundreds of dollars for food a month.
And it's like, we have citizens on the street.
We have veterans on the street.
And you want to.
And they can't even get housing from Section 8 because everyone is waiting like years to get into housing.
Like my mom has been on that Section 8, like waiting for a house since I was little and she's dealt with homelessness and everything like that.
So I've also met a lot of people growing up that were close to her that were dealing with homelessness and their stories were insane and crazy because like none of them really deserved it in a sense.
But the rent is so high.
The rent is high.
It's hard to afford stuff when you have kids.
Let's go, Brian.
ICE hasn't been terrible.
The feminist leftist lip charts are going to crumble.
You have the right to ignore reality, but reality will smack you in the face.
Feminists is as feminists do.
Yeah, man.
I mean, look, ICE has been terrible, though.
Look, I'm willing to be charitable and grant that, like, ICE has definitely made mistakes.
They haven't been perfect.
But, you know, humans aren't perfect.
Humans make mistakes.
Law enforcement officers make mistakes.
And if they did do something criminal, then they ought to be prosecuted.
Sometimes there's brutality.
There's instances where, you know, if, and I'm sure even law enforcement officers are like, if another law enforcement officer does something like wrong or bad, they should be punished or, you know, whatever the hell.
Or they just cover it up to Pereti.
Sometimes they do, but I mean, they do it.
Or they just say, hey, don't come to work for a few weeks and then come back.
Native American Identity Questioned00:13:01
Yeah, you get put on leave or something like that.
There's varying levels of punishment.
Sometimes they'll face criminal punishment.
And if, look, if they've fucked up, if they've committed a crime, they've done something wrong, then at least from my perspective, that should be prosecuted.
But in terms of the base foundational mission of ICE, which is to deport illegal immigrants, I mean, you're going to have to make an argument for why that's actually wrong.
You don't mean are you Native American?
I'm just curious.
Can I say something?
I don't.
Hold on.
Let's see.
Where are your ancestors from?
How would that matter?
But no, I'm not Native American.
No, well, what's your point?
Well, no, I'm just curious because you said that.
You're just curious if I'm.
If you came here illegally or your family did, then why should anybody else come from?
My parents are citizens of this country.
Nobody was citizens.
But your ancestors, did they ever come from somewhere else?
Well, hold on.
They were from Europe or something?
Well, look, I don't know the entire history of my ancestry.
I think a lot of people don't.
But I think if you're looking, if you're talking about the first, let's say, white or European settlers who came to the United States, they're not immigrants.
They were settlers.
See, an immigrant is somebody who's coming to a civilization that's already established.
So in the United States, there wasn't civilization.
When your ancestors came, there wasn't civilization here already.
There wasn't.
There was civilization.
So there's a difference between settler and immigrant.
No, I get like that.
So we have robust.
Is that how far back your line goes, though?
No, I'm saying I don't know, but I think you're trying to get that this idea of, well, if you're not Native American, then you were at one point an immigrant.
Settlers were people who, Europeans who came here, there was nothing.
No, if there were no healthcare, there wasn't buildings.
They built the infrastructure.
But there was still people when he was on settlements.
Yes, there were Native Americans here, but I think it's a little different between like pilgrims or robbers.
Like when Europeans initially came to the United States, they probably would have had like there was more infrastructure and there was a better setup and there's a better quality of life in Europe.
They intentionally came to a place where there's basically, I mean, it was nothing in the wilderness.
It was the wilderness.
And then they built the society.
They built the society.
Depending on the timeframe, you said you don't know what to do.
Yes, of course.
Some people came in the 1900s and New York was already there.
Boston was already there.
You had, so yes, that is true.
But I'm talking about the initial people from Europe who came to the United States.
Yeah, but weren't all those Indians killed off?
Nothing here.
Yes.
No.
Well, I am Native American.
I'm Native American too.
And actually, I, okay, listen, I have a lot of opinions about this, and I'm about to spill the can of beans right now because my grandfather is actually masculine Apache from New Mexico, which is a tribe that was killed off besides, it was down to 500 people.
And so settler, colonialist, colonialist America is a totally different thing than illegal immigration.
So I don't even like to compare the two because at the same time, I do have that perspective.
But my grandparents are also immigrants from Iran and from Taiwan.
And they came here legally and they did it the right way.
And so I'm all for immigrants and people that want to come to this country because this is a democracy after all, or it should be.
And there should be opportunities here for people to make a better life for themselves.
But I think it should be done the right way because a lot of times these illegal immigrants are coming.
There obviously is the cases where, you know, they're honest people and they're working honest jobs and they, you know, deserve to live a good life.
But a lot of them are here to sex traffic and put drugs in our streets.
And I think that as a person who is a citizen of this country, like I don't want that shit happening here.
And I don't know.
There is ice criticisms.
Yeah, I don't know if that is true.
And for me, I know a lot of people.
Not yet.
Not yet.
I'll tell you, okay.
My family, I know the immigrants that have been in my family, that has been because they wanted a better life, not because they're bringing cocaine or bringing drugs or wanting to sex traffic my cousins or my uncles or aunts.
That's definitely not it.
Well, are the hold on, hold on, we have a chat going on.
Justin donated $100.
You are a Native American bright.
Feminist ideology has us crying over Stone Age cultures that didn't even have the wheel.
We should all be grateful that North America was colonized.
No more migrant.
Yeah, it's different.
Like, okay, you're coming from a third world country into the United States, which is a first world country, versus you left Europe at the time, which would have been like peak civilization, and then you moved to like literally, there's no buildings.
Like the very origination of the people who came here.
That's completely different.
But did people come here?
When you came?
Yeah, didn't Native Americans teach you guys how to grow crops and teach you guys how to build things?
That's not my argument, though.
Okay, but that's my argument.
We taught you guys everything, and then you tried to kill us off.
So who was really this, who is really like, you're talking about, oh, we're settlers, we settled.
No, you're colonizers.
You colonized.
You took away what you took away our knowledge and what we had and all the Native Americans had.
And you took that and you used it against us.
Not only did you use it against us, but then you took it and you decided to become settlers, not what the fuck you are.
It's colonization.
Yeah, you took it.
You took our knowledge and you said you were bringing us things.
What did you bring us that we didn't already know?
We gave you infrastructure.
Well, look, so I'm happy to say religion.
HIV.
i'm happy to agree in the sense that uh well actually wasn't it uh the native americans that gave syphilis to or wait hold on which there was There was one.
Oh, Mary, can you go?
Hold on.
One sec, guys.
So, yeah, I think that, you know, the Native Americans did impart some knowledge or, you know, maybe there was things about crops.
I'm not an expert in that.
I'm not saying like, no, they didn't contribute anything.
However, sorry, guys, one sec.
I got to deal with this.
Here, I'll step away if you guys want to come.
The way that ICE is doing things, you're dehumanizing people.
And we shouldn't be dehumanizing anybody, whether they're doing it.
If you're a Christian, right?
And you have Christian beliefs, then you wouldn't dehumanize somebody for the sins that they make.
So why would you dehumanize people?
Yeah, you shouldn't get shot in the face for being in a country.
Nobody should dehumanize anybody for anything that they're doing.
That's crazy.
I would never.
That's like basically you're saying, oh, well, there has to be one punishment for everybody that does something wrong.
So for everybody that's doing something wrong, there's people that have their green cards and are trying to become citizens, but they're taking that away too.
I'm Puerto Rican.
And they sent my cousin to Mexico because he didn't have his birth certificate on him.
And my cousin is full Puerto Rican.
So what is that?
That's dehumanizing people.
We all cut yourself right now.
If somebody were to, all of us were to cut ourselves right now, we'd bleed the same fucking blood.
Where we are right now as a society, like there's so many brilliant minds.
There's so many different ways to do things.
Why are we doing it in this way when there's literally like brilliant, brilliant people?
We have AI.
We have all this technology, but you're telling me we can't find a better solution.
Not everybody listening.
The thing is, the government don't want to spend money on doing that.
They want to try to find out what they're doing.
No, they do.
No, they do.
And they're paying for them to get people out.
They want to.
No, they do because Obama did it that way.
No, everybody loved Obama.
Nobody knew that he deported all those people.
Nobody knew that he put all those laws and kids in cages until Trump had said something.
But nobody knew about that.
It's just the way that you go about it, the way that ICE is going about it, the way that Trump is going about it, making we literally have all this stuff.
You know that Obama was on Epstein Island?
Jeez.
Okay, what the fuck?
No, he wasn't.
Hold on.
Yeah, look.
Look, I do think that Native Americans definitely have some grievances.
There's no dispute there.
But ultimately, I guess I would ask you, like, do you think the Native American was, they were peaceable people before the appearance of Europeans?
No.
Would you be a peaceable person if somebody was getting onto your land and just trying to tell you what to do with white land?
Yeah, and they're like white as fuck.
And you're like, oh, shit.
I'm speaking before the white man ever set foot on North America.
Do you think that the Native Americans were a peaceable people before the appearance of the white man?
No, a lot of us were like cannibals.
Well, I don't know.
No, but that's not true.
No, it is.
No.
Like a lot of the Native American tribes were like very like suspicious.
Are you looking at like the Aztecs and the Incas and the Mayans?
Like if you're looking, they definitely did like human sacrifice type shipping.
No, I'm more thinking about the East Coast when the 13 colonies first started.
Those tribes were crazy.
So it's like, okay, this is stolen land, but before the white man ever appeared in North America, the various differing Native American tribes were fighting each other.
And they would get game and land through conquest.
So before hundreds of moons before the white man ever appeared, Native Americans were fighting each other.
So do we return the land to the tribe that was the final Native American conqueror of that land?
Or do we return the land to the tribe in which the Chippewa conquered the Apache?
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
So you would love us to just thank the white man for helping us out on.
Thank the white man for helping us out on helping the Native Americans or the Inca to fight the Aztecs and fight the people.
You know, I think what he's saying is everybody else.
Well, that's not what I'm saying, but what I'm saying is if we're talking about stolen land, to whom do we bequeath the land back to?
Do we bequeath it to the Chippewa?
Do we bequeath it to the Apache?
Do we give it to who do you give the land back to?
Because the various Native American tribes were conquering each other for decades, if not centuries, before the appearance of Europeans.
And they were doing it for no less noble a cause than the same reason the white man did it.
For conquest, for land, for game.
I can ask your phenotype the same question.
I can ask because it's the same thing.
It's the same concept.
If you were to sit here and tell me that all white people, right?
All white people aren't trying to make sure that ICE isn't, you know, doing it in the specific way or all black people are doing it in a specific way on the specific phenotype.
Wait, what are you talking about?
I think it's too late for all that.
Wait, it's too late for all that.
I'm going to bring it back to dating.
Justin donated $100.
What did we bring through colonization?
Horses, Christianity, gunpowder, clothes, rule of law, etc.
If your cousin can't prove he's a citizen, that sounds like a him problem.
Justin, you're welcome.
Justin, you sound like a hater.
Sounds like a volcano.
Thanks for sending all your men.
He's based.
A DL.
He's based.
He's based.
What can he say?
Yeah.
That's all I got.
No, what I was talking about basically is what I'm saying is white people came to the native, and there's different kinds of white people, right?
This is what I'm saying.
There's different kinds of white people.
There's Germans, there's Irish, there's all those kinds of white people, right?
So what is the difference between Native Americans in different areas and doing conquest between each other and the Europeans doing that between each other?
But the difference is that it's a fight between each other versus a fight between a different phenotype.
You know what I mean?
Like you're fighting between each other for land or whatever, but you see a white man and he's coming over and he's like, oh, we're going to do this too.
That's a whole different scenario than if you're fighting amongst each other.
I don't think.
I don't think so.
Worst Dating Experience00:04:04
Let me just bring it back to dating, please.
Anybody got a topic y'all want?
Oh, boy.
All right.
So have you ever went on a date and the guy's breath just straight up was kicking?
Do you have a breath?
Just got a breath.
Because it's just disgusting because I had it happen to me.
I went on a date like a good minute ago.
And that wasn't even the worst part.
Like, he pulled up smelling like straight piss.
Like, straight piss.
Okay, I'm not a rude bitch either.
Okay.
So I'm going to be nice.
I'm going to be your friend, you know?
But the audacity to buy me $300 perfume and you didn't get nothing for yourself is crazy.
And here's the crazier part, though.
This is the crazier part.
We went out to dinner, right?
And then, you know how the lady she comes out with the chips and the salsa and shit.
And I go and grab a fucking chip.
And he's like, oh, you're not going to wash your hands?
The fucking audacity.
The audacity of men.
Okay.
Of course, I did.
I was like, oh, you know what?
I got you.
So I just got up.
I did my thing.
I came back.
But yeah, that was the last time me ever, ever speaking to him.
So that was one of my worst dating experiences, to be honest with you.
Odor matters.
Odor.
Like people smell.
Yeah, I couldn't do it again.
And my manner to this day, he still calls.
There you go.
He'd be like, lotioning up, put some oils, you know.
He blacks me though.
He didn't like to be ashy, so he'd be all up in there.
There you go.
But I'm saying, like, what are your guys's, like, worst dating experience that's happened to you before?
Has anybody, sorry to like, I just thought of this.
Has anybody like crazily discovered a side chick or side dude?
It's like Spotify.
You find out through Spotify or some shit or like some stupid shit.
I am.
I found out all the girls put me in a group chat.
Shut up.
My girls put me in a group chat and sent me every picture that they were took with my ex.
It was like three of them.
And they sent me my ex's dick pics.
They sent me the pictures.
They sent me everything and they're like, we didn't know about you.
And we see that, you know, you guys are like super serious.
And you're the only one that he has on his Instagram.
So we added it up and we know that you guys are super serious.
And I was pregnant at the time.
Oh, yeah, that's what I found out.
Oh, my gosh.
That sounds like that one movie when all the girls got together and then like took revenge on it.
Oh, John Tucker Must Die.
Oh, yeah.
It felt like that.
Because I was seeing dick pics.
I was seeing them together at the movies.
All this bullshit.
And he was like, that's not me.
Till this day, he still says he's never cheating on me.
Till this day.
Insane.
To this day.
Till this day.
To this day.
That's on my X-B.
Oh, man.
So, none of you guys have a bad experience?
One time I went all the way to Florida to meet this guy that I had a crush on for like forever.
And he used to make music that I liked.
And he, like, we started talking.
And I was like, fuck it, I'll go to Florida to see you.
I go.
And he was, I paid for it.
I was, I don't even know.
I was young.
And then he was freaking chopped cheese, bro.
And like, I left.
I left.
When he was shooting?
Yes, bro.
And like, I left when he was asleep.
And then I just like went to a hotel.
And then I got back on my flight and went home and I blocked him and never talked to him again.
Oh, my God.
It's probably like the most fucked up thing I've ever done.
I've been hat fish before.
Bro, what the fuck?
Straight up been hatfish.
Like all his photos.
He was wearing a beanie or a hat.
And then why did you decide to pull up on me with nothing on?
Like no hat, no beanie, no nothing.
Girl, you shadow.
Bald headed.
And I'm like, that poor head receding.
Like receding.
Like bad.
Another daddy.
Yeah.
All right, let's blast through some of the final things here.
Or, well, still more to go through.
Did you guys share your celebrity crush?
I think we did that same, right?
Would you crack right away?
Yeah, we did that.
Yeah, we already talked about that.
We already did that.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Sorry, guys.
I had to, hello?
I had to step away from the table there momentarily.
Why You Want High-Earning Men00:15:36
All right, let's see.
What do we have?
Excuse me.
This guy says I'm Native American.
I'm actually African American, technically.
Oh, nice.
No, I'm serious.
Got that DNA.
Anyone sound African?
No, so my dad was, he was actually born in North Africa, and my mom was born in America.
And so technically, if my dad was born in Africa and my mom was born in America, combine the two, technically African-American.
American American.
But you're not black.
Yeah, I'm not black, but I'm technically African-American.
But definitely not black.
No.
Very white.
Very pale.
As soon as everybody's back at the table, I'll get into the next segment here in just a moment.
I guess I could do, here, let's, I got to wait until everyone's back at the table.
Let's see, guys.
One sec.
I think we'll skip that.
Dippity, is that?
That's me.
That's you?
Yeah.
Okay, you already talked about like the bad breath thing.
Okay, we'll skip who?
Grove?
What's your name?
Shara.
Shar.
Okay.
You said you had a wild first aid story.
Actually, you know what?
Let's save that for later.
What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
Same or more than me.
Okay, so what's that?
Oh, I can't say that.
Well, I guess you could just say for the other person.
In the future, that would pretty much be singers.
I think just for...
Do you make six figures?
How about that?
I don't want to say.
Okay.
What about you?
I think like 80K minimum.
Okay, what about you?
Into the mic, please.
Between at least 300 to 500,000.
Can you tilt your microphone down more, please?
You?
Well, here you wrote something else.
What did you write here?
Can you tell us that?
500,000 to a million.
That's also what I'll say.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
I should put like 60,000.
I don't really care.
What about you?
I didn't put anything because, honestly, I'm unsure.
Because if I'm in love with that person, I mean, I don't really care.
So you'll date a guy who works at McDonald's?
If I'm in love with him.
Yes.
And I would help him build himself.
Did not work in McDonald's.
80.
What about you?
80.
You?
75 to 80.
Okay.
Nothing too unreasonable, I guess, except for you.
500,000 to 1 million.
That's pretty high.
Have you ever had a long-term relationship with a guy who makes that much money?
Who actually makes, doesn't just claim it, but actually makes that much money?
Not long-term, no.
You fucked guys who make that much money.
I mean, way more than that.
Yeah.
You fucked a billionaire?
Unlikely.
Okay, well, some guys lie.
Some guys lie.
Oh, I'm a billionaire.
That's like a bad thing.
Well, I've seen the numbers.
All right, well.
Have you ever escorted?
No.
Okay.
500,000 to 1 million.
I brought it down to 300.
Well, now, but you did write now because you know you're going to get my wrath.
No, because.
So 500,000 to 1 million.
So just to be clear, even on the low end, the 500,000, that is less than 1% of it.
Well, that's okay.
I'm okay with being single.
So you won't settle for less.
Exactly.
But, okay, wait, I will settle, and this is the only way.
Like, if they show they really have a good work ethic and like they put a lot of effort into everything they do and like they're trying to build up and like be better and find different avenues to make money, like they have a good drive, then I'm okay with them making less.
But I mean somebody could have a good work ethic, all those things, and not make more than $150,000 like at any point in their life.
Well, they have to at least match.
Because it's like for like someone that's starting up a business too, they start with nothing also.
But are you going to be there for them when they have nothing and starting up the business?
Are you going to wait till they already done?
Women don't build, they move in.
So they have helped.
Never build a man up.
I have helped women, and that's why I'm not.
I already want a guy who has reached the finish line.
And you know why?
It's because I am already like very well on my own.
Women wait at the finish line and they fuck the winners.
No.
That's how I've made a lot of money.
There's some women that build though.
And I'm someone that has worked really hard to be my best self.
So I'm not going to settle for a loser.
Sorry.
But I mean, so a guy who makes $200,000, that's not enough for you?
I brought it down to $350,000.
But $350,000 is the minimum.
Although here you wrote $500,000 minimum to $1 million.
I'll get a little wiggle.
But $300,000, you said $300,000 wouldn't be enough.
It's not horrible.
I mean, if I really like them, I'll go for it.
Or you can live anywhere in this country off $300,000 and have a comfortable life.
That's like average in LA.
That's not.
Bro, that is not average in L.A. 300,000 is, look, I mean, you're not going to be...
It's like middle.
If you're in SF or NYC or nice parts of LA, that's not going to be like luxury, but you're going to have like a, that's still pretty good.
I mean, it's not going to be, you're not going to be like.
I'm trying to think like exactly how the lifestyle would be like that much in LA, but whatever.
You do realize, though, in any case, you're basically zeroing out 99% of men, basically.
That's okay.
With your standards.
Because the guy has to be attractive.
He has to be.
I'm pansexual.
He has to have good vibes.
That's literally the only requirement.
Good, good vibes.
He's got good vibes.
And he's got to be set for himself with a little extra for me.
And you're a stripper?
Do you do OF or no?
A little.
A little.
Not full-time, just like for my stripper people.
I'm a little bit of a girl who wants men who makes $500,000.
Hey, they want me more than I want them.
How old are you willing to date?
Like, maybe you could find a guy who's like 50 or 60 who might accept.
I already have a lot of offers of people in this range or way higher.
No, you don't.
If you did, you would, well, that you actually like, that you would want to date them.
They're rich, but they don't have the emotional side that I want.
Bro, see, it's not just, even if you do meet this metric, it's not just, okay, well, you're getting rid of 99% of men.
It then becomes, okay, he's got to meet all my other long list of criteria that's really good.
No, no, no.
He just has good vibes.
0.00001% of men.
That's pretty ridiculous, to be honest.
Really?
You want me to, oh, for your sake, I'll date a dusty little brokey.
No, you don't have to just make you comfortable.
So you don't have to be emotional.
You don't have to do that.
I don't want to be emotional with my standards.
I mean, it is what it is, but I do think you should probably reassess your standards.
I have plenty of options already in that range.
These are who's standards.
Bro, maybe the guy.
I know you think I'm a five.
You think I don't deserve that.
You don't know me.
And I don't care about that.
The fact that you're sex worker does bring down your dating value.
But look, what you guys got to understand.
That's why he has to make more so he could take me out the game.
Okay.
I mean.
No, I'm just kidding.
I think what you have to understand is that you said you'll still do it.
Bro.
I'll still do it, but I do make less money when I date people because I'm like a stage performer.
I'm literally just on stage the whole night in a bikini.
Well, he's supposed to take care of you.
He has his money.
Why would you still do it?
No, I will maybe quit if he wants to.
Girl, you better quit.
What the hell?
That just means you like doing it.
I'm that performer.
I'm not.
Like the strip club, I work out.
Then be a dancer for an artist.
Don't be a stripper.
Why?
Be a pole teacher.
Girl, I'm not Christian.
I don't have the same sex.
I'm not a Christian.
I mean, I am some.
I believe in God.
I believe in Howard Power.
I'm not Christian.
I'm saying, why would you still work, Chris?
Why would you still do it?
Yeah, I mean, I think it's over, to be honest.
It's not.
I think it's over.
Is it over for you, buddy?
Probably.
But that's secondary.
Why are you getting so bothered by this?
No, no.
No, you are really triggered.
Why?
No, I'm not triggered.
No, you are.
Look, you're typical.
You're very typical.
I've encountered it all the time.
No.
Sex workers.
They want the world.
Bro, you're a sex worker.
You're 28.
Like, it's just, I don't understand this.
What sex worker broke your heart?
Like, why do you want to out for us so hard?
You want me to just, no, listen, because before I was a sex worker, I worked minimum wage three jobs at one time.
And I got sexually harassed way, way more.
My boundaries passed way more for the same pay.
And I was doing way more work.
That's not relevant.
For the same thing.
It's just like you guys fucking for love.
Like, you guys.
Why would I bring my value down and get paid minimum wage for the worst treatment when I could make a bunch of money from just dancing in a bikini?
That's your tits out.
Okay, that's your justification for why you do sex work, but it doesn't address my argument, which is you want a guy who makes $500,000 to $1 million.
That puts him in the top, less than top 1%.
You're excluding 99% of men from your dating pool, not to mention all the other standards that you probably have.
You know, you guys were giving me flack earlier about this whole, you know, people can have their standards.
Like, you're zeroing out 99% of men.
Well, I don't want to do that.
Just on that one metric.
Then we add in, we add in your other metrics, and it's like, there's like five dudes in North America that meet your standards.
It's like, and then you look, also you have to think, okay, this is what I want in a man.
What does the man that I want want?
Am I that?
No, I am.
That's why I'm not so.
So the guy who makes a million dollars a year, he's looking at the 28-year-old sex worker and is like, that's I'm not going to lie.
A lot of men become before me.
They really want me to get it.
Look, you cannot confuse me.
But they don't want you as a white person.
No, they do.
Do not confuse men's lust.
No, they don't even think that.
They're going to make you think that, though.
They make you think that you know my game.
They don't want you as a wife.
That's not true.
That's not true.
It's possible.
It's literally possible.
And it makes me sad for everybody that lowers their standards that low and thinks so lowly of themselves.
That's why you will never attract that in your life.
You won't attract the love you think you deserve.
No.
This idea of life.
I don't even need to manifest it to attract it, but I do have a lovely person.
You are who you are.
Like, you literally are who you are.
Look, good things happen to bad people.
Bad things happen to good people.
This idea that, oh, if you just put it out in the universe and I think I'm hot shit, therefore I'm going to end up with like a really high-value guy.
No, it's because I work on myself for years.
Like I've been single.
I've been on my own.
I know how to get shit done.
I get shit handled.
I'm a boss ass bitch.
I don't care if I shit.
Unless you date a guy late 40s, 50s, 60s, you're not going to end up with a guy who's a millionaire.
It's not happening.
A lot of rich people like to marry or be with other rich people.
That literally doesn't bother me.
Would you agree with me?
Sorry, it's honestly kind of funny.
Would you agree with me that men who make a million dollars or more a year are going to be assessed as like high-value men?
Yes.
It depends on what they do for work.
Some of them do sketchy shit for a million dollars a year.
Funny.
Well, let's assume it's not sketchy.
White collar fraud.
So men generally, now, of course, men who are high earners typically tend to be assessed as very attractive by a lot of women.
And a lot of these women are not sex workers.
And so if you are a man who makes a million dollars a year and you have a bunch of options, so dating a sex worker is suboptimal.
Now, just to be clear, I don't hate sex workers.
I'm not saying that you, hold on, I'm not saying that as a sex worker that you should, no one should ever love you and you should never have a relationship.
No, I wish for all of you to have relationships.
Although, truth be told, I'd probably, if a guy came to me for advice and he's like, hey, Brian, should I date a sex worker?
I'd say no.
But I'm not saying you shouldn't.
Look, I'd love for all of you to be in loving, great relationships.
That'd be fantastic.
But I don't think you get away from this idea that sex work is suboptimal.
Men don't want to date sex workers.
That's fun.
Even those that are.
I literally just have so.
I got la.
Can I ask you a question?
I'm not worried about it.
Do you think you would be?
I'm sorry.
Can I ask you a question?
You would be disgusted with if you knew like Yeah, I know there's a lot of degenerate simps out there who are fucking gooners They're fucking gooners and they're porn addicted and they'd love to date a sex worker.
I understand that but if we're talking about high virtue men then you know the the men who are high in virtue typically are going to avoid sex workers.
So my question is though, look again, sex workers can get married, sex workers can have family, sex workers can have kids, sex workers can have love.
I'm not like doing this like, no, a sex worker will never know that's stupid.
That's cope actually.
But it is true.
Like would you tend to agree with me?
Keeping everything about you the same.
Do you think you'd be more appealing to men if you were not a sex worker in general?
You had your sex appealing.
So just to be clear, for most men, you think you would be, you would be.
Because I learned a lot of knowledge being a sex worker that actually helped me with sales.
I have people.
You think men, that's men.
Oh, no.
A lot of sales knowledge, a lot of interacting with people.
You can get those skills in other ways and men don't.
No, you definitely can.
You think like a man's kind of top tier.
She's like got knowledge.
I didn't want to fuck her, but she's got knowledge.
I want to fuck her now.
I want that now.
Yeah, that does happen.
No, men don't know.
They love my body and my brain.
They like my body.
They like my brain.
No, men don't care.
You don't understand.
No, you're talking about the little dusties that don't care.
The ones that I know.
As you go up in like the men's attractiveness, the less they're willing to tolerate your situation.
Like a guy who doesn't have options, he's like, I'm just going to let you think what you want because I know you're speaking on your own experiences of all the sex workers that denied you coochie, that scarred you for whatever reaction this is.
I haven't dated any sex workers.
Well, whatever girl like hurt you like that, like I want to fuck her up for you if you want.
I'll fight her for you.
Actually, most of my relationships have been great.
I don't have, with the exception of one girl I dated who was not a sex worker, I have nothing but positive things to say about my exes, which I think perhaps for most of you, you probably couldn't do that.
I've dated wonderful, great women.
But I mean, when it comes to dating, who hasn't been hurt by something?
So I don't understand.
I don't really understand the criticism.
We've all been screwed over or hurt in some way.
But of the women I have had long time to do that.
It just seems that you truly don't believe that a sex worker can get a high-value man.
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And I'm telling you, they absolutely do.
In fact, there's a bunch of sex workers and prostitutes that are like literally married to like rappers.
They're retired.
Like they have great fucking lifestyles.
And they met by literally selling them coochie out.
But where are those women in their lives when they're with them is the question.
They're married.
They're engaged.
I'm saying what are those women doing with their lives actively?
Starting a business or are they doing stuff proactively or are they still a stripper?
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Chair three, you trashy as shit if you can't understand men.
Men just want loyal women.
Thank you, Terry.
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Brian's right, ladies.
It's over.
Future Western civilization has no interest in your unfortunately deluded, toxic minds.
Have no fear.
Men will be men, and ultimately this confusion will be resolved.
Okay, wait.
I have something to add, and I can see why you have the opinion that you have.
Okay, what is it?
Like, I get it.
You know, a lot of dancers and a lot of girls that you probably have met.
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If you had a daughter, would you want her to come and work with you?
If you had a son, would you want him to marry your work associates?
That's a good question.
Answer.
That's a good question.
The son, I would not mind if you married the work associates if it was a good woman.
That's what I was going to add to you because there are some sex workers and some dancers that I know.
Wait, what was the first one?
Your daughter.
Would you want her to be a stripper or OF girl or whatever?
I would talk her out of it and hopefully set her up so she wouldn't have to do that.
But if she did, I would try to educate her and let her set her boundaries and put her in a good place that respects her.
And in that case, I wouldn't mind it as much because there are good places out.
But what I was going to say is I respect your opinion, though, because there are a lot of dancers and there are a lot of sex workers that really don't have their shit together.
They're horrible fucking people.
They're trashy.
They like treat people like shit.
Like they move through the world in a crazy way, crazy way.
Like I've seen a lot of shit for sure.
So I see it like, you know, not every sex worker is going to be attracting something of high value.
That's why me, that's kind of separate from who I am, but I know it's part of me.
But I'm saying like me as a person, I am very high value.
Like, and I do attract this all the time.
But I can get where your opinion comes from.
You're not, look, you're not high value.
Well, you don't know me, so I don't really care if you say that.
I mean, but look, I want to make it true just because you're a man.
I'm not sure if you're a little off-of-the-surface things here.
Which is invalid.
You don't know me.
Look, by virtue of you being a sex worker, is sex work high value, medium value, or low value?
Depends on how much you get paid.
It wouldn't matter how much you get paid.
I'm asking about the profession in and of itself inherently.
I honestly don't think that it's neither high or low value.
It's just a job.
Are there high value jobs men?
So just to be clear, janitor, doctor, where is janitor up here high value?
I feel like male stripper would be more equal than janitor.
And male stripper?
Would you?
I would definitely date a male stripper.
He got that bread.
Okay, but I think 3000.
Why can't you categorize whether a stripper is like sex worker is high value or low value?
Because I think it could go either way.
How could it go either way?
Low value if you're on.
What do you do?
You do OF.
You do strip.
I'm just wearing bikini all night, and I perform dancing on a stage.
Like, literally, I have a huge stage.
I'm on the whole night.
I literally just perform on stage.
I don't have to get no goodies out.
You don't do private dances?
No, we don't have any private rooms.
Well, look, I mean.
I mean, I think that's a pretty good argument.
She doesn't touch another.
I'm like a backup dancer for a rapper dancing in a bikini on a stage.
Okay.
I get it, though.
I get your perspective.
I'm not mad at it.
I think the fact that she has potential money and turning down and going to a place that does dances says a lot about her morals.
What?
Oh my God.
Do you believe a woman can move on from being such a low-value woman?
Yeah.
Yeah, people can.
Well, I mean, it depends if we're looking at it from like a Christian lens.
Yes, I guess from a Christian perspective, everyone can be redeemed.
But like, you have to understand, just because you stopped doing the thing doesn't mean that men aren't.
Men care about a woman's past.
Women care about a man's future.
So like this idea that, yeah, you can redeem yourself and you can change who you are.
It could be drugs.
It could be promiscuity.
It could be sex work.
It could be all like just other bad things.
Do you drink alcohol?
No, not really.
I don't do drugs.
Don't smoke.
I don't drink.
I mean, occasionally, we do.
The only time I drink is sometimes we do a champagne pop.
Yo, hold on.
Guys, guys, this panel has been.
I need a fucking champagne pop.
I need a champagne pop.
We got champagne bottles.
It's been a while.
Who's going to do a champagne pop?
I don't drink, but the only time I do drink is if we do a champagne pop.
Can I pop it?
What's that?
Can I pop it?
Nope.
Pop your chair.
You can't have a cup.
No, look, I'll just say this.
Look, I think your future husband, your future children are not going to appreciate that there's naked photos of you on the internet.
I don't know what you do on your OF.
I don't know if you fuck men on camera.
You show your pussy.
You show your butthole.
I'm telling you, your future husband, your future, the family of your husband will not appreciate, and your children will not appreciate naked photos of you being on the internet.
They're not going to appreciate that.
Okay.
What about all the celebrities that have OnlyFans that make millions of dollars?
Does that make them low value?
They're degenerate too.
And yeah, it makes them low value.
Okay.
What about like Kim Kardashian?
Like, she had a sex tape.
She had sex tape out, but she got businesses going on.
I should think about money.
Are you guys such materialists that you think, well, if you're rich, then that's all that matters?
How about if you're a piece of shit person and you're rich, are you still like high?
Well, I'm assuming that makes her a piece of shit person, though.
I'm assuming that person.
What makes her a piece of shit person?
Well, hold on.
I didn't say, hold on.
I wasn't referring her necessarily to a piece of shit person, but Kim Kardashian has a reputation.
She has the sex tape out there.
And I don't know the history of that.
I'm pretty sure they leaked it.
I don't know.
That probably was probably intentional.
That's a little bit different, but there's the sex tape.
That's different, though, than somebody who's actively doing it.
But they probably leaked that intentionally.
And she's dated like so many men.
And it's like, yeah, she's very wealthy.
There's no dispute there.
And that does provide some value to be exceptionally wealthy.
Men generally don't care about wealth that much.
She was a good-looking woman.
Some say she still is.
I mean, obviously, she's getting a bit older.
But I mean, ultimately, personally, the fake shit is not.
I do not like the BBL.
So to you, what makes a high-value woman?
I mean, it's a couple different things.
Obviously, there's various metrics, but I mean, one component, you're going to have to let me finish all the components.
One component is, you know, look, realistically, being physically attractive.
That's one way in which a woman can increase her value.
But there's other things too.
It's like, what are her values?
What is her virtue?
Is she a good person?
Does she treat you well?
Does she treat you with respect?
In terms of the traditional things that men look for, we're looking for submissiveness.
We're looking for peace.
We're looking for a woman who embodies those sort of ladylike qualities.
Virtue, peace, submission.
These sorts of things.
A woman who will give you children.
A woman who will defer to you.
A woman who will acquiesce to you.
A woman who is agreeable.
There's all kinds of traits that make a woman a high value.
But at the same time, like, why do you devalue, say, Kim Kardashian because of that sex tape when maybe she does have all those things that you just said?
Maybe she is very submissive.
Maybe she's kind.
Maybe she's like, not even about the money hypothetical.
Why did you just devalue her as a high-value woman?
I mean, no, I don't think I would.
What type of environment do you think it takes to make a woman that has those qualities that you just listed?
Well, look, I'm not, just to be clear, I think that society and culture is completely fucked.
Same.
So it's not totally like women's entire fault that we live in an ecosystem, an environment that is conducive to degeneracy, that isn't conducive to selfishness, that is conducive to materialism.
It's 2026.
So, I mean, what kind of environment would be good for that?
Honestly, I'm kind of a doomer on this specific thing.
I think that there's, you know, with black holes, the point of no return, the event horizon, once you pass that threshold, you can't escape.
Honestly, society is pretty much cooked.
I think partially I'm like, enjoy the decline.
Part of me wants to fight, but I honestly, are you saying that this is like build on this, to be honest?
Are you saying that it's like almost unattainable to find a woman like that?
No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying.
There's definitely good women out there.
But what I am saying is that the ecosystem and environment is not conducive to, and by the way, it's not just women.
It's not conducive to creating high virtue men either.
Yeah, that's true.
Porn, all this other shit.
Like, I don't think, for example, in terms of my criticisms of sex workers, the male component of that, you shouldn't be watching porn.
Look, some of the porn shit's overstated.
But if you're in a relationship with a girl, shouldn't be watching porn.
If you're dating a girl, you shouldn't be following chicks on IG Thoughts on Instagram.
You shouldn't be liking their photos.
Well, even if you're fucking single, you shouldn't be doing that shit anyways.
But how about in like you're in like the work that you do?
Well, yeah, so I'm actually.
You have to be around that.
Well, I think that's a bit different.
But I would say, like, for example, I don't shy away from the fact that because of my podcast, like, that's disqualifying to me for plenty of women.
Like, some women, well, their politics are just going to disagree with me because we talk about politics on the show and they're liberal.
So like 50% of the women, gone.
And then some even women who might share some of my values, although I'm like super autistic and have like really niche, retarded, not retarded, I think they're based, but some people, they're like, bro, Brian, this is crazy.
Yeah, there's plenty of women who see this show.
Like, so I relate in the sense that because of what I do, it closes the door for a lot of women.
Like a lot of women are like, whoa, Brian, some of your takes are a little out there.
You're too political, blah, blah, blah.
So I totally acknowledge that.
But I think I don't cope about it.
I'm like, oh, yeah, I've closed the door on like probably 60% of women.
Or 50% of women, just on that.
And then, of course, like, there's the other factors that women would care about, like attraction and all that stuff.
But just based on the show, yeah, I probably closed the door for a lot.
So it's almost the same thing with OnlyFans.
But OnlyFans girls cope about it.
They're like, no, I'm going to.
I have like a follow-up question.
No, this isn't going to close the door.
In fact, it like, no.
So would you change yourself?
Would you change yourself for somebody?
Would you change yourself to fit somebody else's qualifications or needs?
Because you're telling everybody else, oh, you wouldn't change yourself.
Oh, my God.
You're an OFL.
Oh, you're in sex work.
Not what I'm saying, but what I'm saying is.
But that's what you said.
No, well, hold on.
The conversation is about are women who do sex work, are they high value?
Or are they just, is it a desirable thing for men?
And my position is, I'm not, again, I'm not saying that there aren't, I'm sure there's plenty of men who would date you.
I'm sure there's plenty of men who blah, blah, blah, family, kids, blah, blah, blah.
I'm sure I'm not going to do this thing where it's cope.
Like, no, you took a bikini photo.
No man's going to have.
No, that's stupid.
That's cope.
But realistically speaking, by virtue of you being a sex worker, you guys being sex workers, that's going to close the door for a lot of men.
That's a small and cool.
And a lot of those men are typically high-virtue men.
Don't want to be dealing with a sex worker.
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No, this is, bro.
Okay, this is crazy.
So on Instagram, you know that Asian girl that we pulled up, the photo?
Fuck, what's her name?
Oh, shit.
What's her name?
It's on the tip of my tongue.
That Asian girl, she was in Smallville.
What is her name?
I can't believe I'm blinking on it.
He sent me an image on Instagram of a photo that is signed to Brian Kristen Kruk.
To Brian, sorry, I missed you.
Hey, you know, look, Kristen Kruk's in her 40s, but honestly, she's a fucking babe.
Like she can, I would, A, I'm not going.
How old are you?
36.
Oh, shit.
Hey.
Kristen Kruk.
Kristen Kruk, what's up?
Nah, she ain't going for me.
She ain't going for me, though.
She ain't going for me.
But hey, if she's down.
She's down.
I'm not going to.
I'm not going to say no.
I feel like all the Hollywood people are super liberal.
So, I don't know.
She wasn't, actually, no, I'm not going to talk.
I'm not going to throw shade on my girl, Kristen.
I can't throw shade on her.
You manifested it.
You got to stop talking now, you know.
Yeah, for sure.
Blaffist donated $100.
Thank you, Blafest.
Chair 3.
You are delusional.
You are so low value, I actually feel like $100 is maybe five times too much just to ask you a question.
If Brian wasn't there sexying the panel up, I simply couldn't justify it.
Oh, Blafest.
Thank you very much, man.
I appreciate it.
All right, one more.
All right, I got to get to the other topics.
Thank you, Blafest.
We got base Justin here.
Oh, shit.
Oh!
$1,000.
Jeez, Justin.
$1,000.
These ladies have a lot of self-reflection to do.
The high-value men they think they are interacting with are almost certainly not grow-up girls.
Who wants some champagne?
Champagne with feminist championships.
I'll drink to that, Justin.
No, thank you.
Champagne?
Yes.
Champagne?
Champagne me.
No?
I didn't know it was real champagne.
Champagne?
Champagne?
Whatever.
Yo, fucking base Justin.
You're fucking legend service.
I fucking love you, Justin.
Thank you.
Yo, it's been a while.
It's been a while since you have the champagne.
It's been like a couple months or something.
You can eat my ass, Justin, for that another thousand.
Send it through.
Big dad.
What the fuck?
That's crazy.
Can I ask you a question, Brian?
Sure.
Okay.
So you outlined what you think, what qualities you think a high-value woman would have.
I think I missed a few.
And you basically said, I asked you, okay, well, what conditions or what environment would make a woman like that?
And you basically said that our society's cooked and that it's rare to come by a woman like that.
So my next question is: okay, if all of us are low-value women, in your opinion, if your panel was all high-value women, do you think your podcast would be as compelling as it is, or less or more?
Well, I mean, look, you got to understand, feminism knows yes or no answer.
Oh, I already let the air out.
United States Allegiance00:06:57
That's unfortunate.
Thank you, Justin.
Who wanted, sorry, who wanted champagne again?
Just two, y'all?
Okay.
Y'all getting drunk then.
I guess I'll have to give you guys more.
So, sorry, what was the question?
I apologize.
Okay, if your panel was all high-value women instead of low-value women, do you think your podcast would be as compelling or less or more?
I don't know how that's relevant, but it's just curiosity.
I mean, I actually don't know.
Yeah.
Because what would you talk about with them?
Well, I mean, just to be clear, the majority of our guests, although it's a bit higher on this panel, the majority of our guests don't do sex work.
Really?
I feel like everybody's got a lot of people who are in 50.
It's 20.
I think it's actually 15% of all our, like, total.
That's interesting.
15% of our guests are sex workers.
The rest are just normal, whatever that is.
Do you want to be sex workers?
No, I'm fine with you.
Okay, I guess.
Cheers.
Salu to based Justin.
Based Justin.
Based Justin.
Salu.
Thousands of make a girl go hollow.
Okay.
Thank you, Justin.
You're a fucking legend.
It's been, yo, it's been a minute.
So thank you for the support.
I'll have some more of that later.
Okay, let me move it on.
How tall are you, and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
Now you're going to get fucking tipsy bro because I'm lightweight.
All right.
Go ahead.
Six foot.
Well, what's your height and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
I'm 5'4.
6'.
Okay, what about you?
I'm 5'5 and I think 5'10.
What about you?
I'm 5'3 and a half, and I don't really care.
All right, well, that helps with your millionaire thing.
I'm 5'6.
I don't care about height.
Okay, what about you?
I'm 5'7, and I'll have to say you gotta be at least my height, 5'7.
How about you?
I'm 5'1, as long as you're taller than me.
How tall were your baby Dennis?
My first one was, I met him in high school, so we're like, he's like a little bit taller than me.
My second one, he's like 6'3.
What about you?
I'm 4'11, and I really don't care.
I date a midget.
Me too.
What about you?
5'5.
As long as you're taller than me.
Yeah, dwarfs are pretty, honestly, they're pretty stacked.
The dwarf women.
Hell yeah.
Dwarf women are stacked.
That's correct.
You know, from experience sheets.
I was talking about something.
No, it's actually on my bucket list.
I'm trying to, if anybody knows about it.
I can get you a dwarf.
I can get the ladies a dwarf, too.
She can't be a prostitute because you're a pimp.
I'm not a pimp.
You're a mad lady.
I just know a lot of people.
All right.
Here, we're going to do.
Oh, I wanted to ask.
Here's a good one.
Let's see here.
One moment.
I'm trying to pull it up.
Okay.
Who here was everybody here born in the United States?
Yep.
Yeah.
Everybody?
Anybody born?
Who here were your parents?
Were your parents immigrants?
Anybody?
You, you, you.
Can you go around starting with you?
Can you tell us from where?
My parents are orphan immigrants, both from Vietnam.
My mom is from the north, and she was sponsored over, so she came by plane, and my dad came by boat, so he escaped.
Okay.
What about you?
My dad was born in Taipei, Taiwan, and he came here when he was like a child, I think.
And then my mom's dad was born in Iran.
Wrong, okay.
What about you?
Both my parents were born in Peru.
My mom came when she was like 15.
She graduated high school here.
Okay.
And my dad came when he was older.
What about you?
My mom's from Mexico.
My dad's from Romania.
My dad came under the Reagan administration.
Technically, legally, I guess.
And going around the table, what's everyone's ethnicity?
You can just say white or Latino, Asian, whatever.
German.
Okay.
Vietnamese.
White bitch.
White bitch.
I don't consider myself Asian.
Asian.
Okay.
Latina.
Latina.
Peruvian.
Peruvian.
Black, Puerto Rican, and Filipino.
I guess white, Mexican, mixed.
I don't know.
Okay, so let's say Vietnam.
Okay, how about I'll ask this question like this, related to this.
In a morally neutral, blame-free hypothetical conflict between the USA and the country of origin of one or both of your parents, if your parents are from two different countries, it could just be the U.S. goes to war with either one, I guess, or both in two different hypotheticals, where neither side is right or wrong.
To which country is your allegiance?
So I guess I have to ask this to the people who have like parents of a I don't know, whatever.
I guess how do I ask that?
Okay, the United States goes to war with Mexico.
Or they both go to war.
They just go to war.
Who do you side with?
I mean, I think just United States.
Okay.
The United States goes to war with Vietnam.
To which country is your allegiance?
I mean, I was born here, so America.
Okay.
I think I got to skip the people that like, whatever.
All right, I don't know.
The United States goes to war with Palestine.
Do you side with Palestine or the United States?
Ooh.
Palestine.
Okay.
The United States goes to war.
It was Iran and Cambodia?
Was it?
Oh, sorry.
I got it mixed up.
My bad.
The United States goes to war with Taiwan.
To which country is your allegiance?
Well, American, because I'm probably going to be fighting in that war.
And then what about Iran?
Yeah, well, I'm going to be in the army, so I'm going to be fighting for America.
I was born here.
This is my country.
The United States, are you Mexican?
Yeah.
The United States goes to war with Mexico.
Neutral, like morally neutral scenario, blame-free hypothetical.
To which country is your allegiance?
The United States or Mexico?
Of course the United States.
I was born here.
Okay.
You're from Peru.
The United States goes to war with Peru.
To which country is your allegiance?
United States.
Okay.
United States.
What about you?
Women's Physical Strength00:15:09
United States.
Oh, okay.
There you go.
I was just curious about that.
All right.
We have, let's see what we have here.
Let's do some things from the questionnaire here.
Hmm.
Let's see.
Esther.
So the statement is: women are just as physically strong as men, to which you circled that you agree.
I'm stronger.
Yep.
I got like an eight-pack under this.
A little closer to the mic.
Can you scoot into the tip a little bit?
So you're stronger than some men?
I'm stronger than a lot of men.
And also the way that the female body develops muscle, it's like the muscle that we develop is less, but it's actually stronger.
Like it can lift more.
Like I am.
Okay.
We might be able to withstand pain more, but I don't know about the other strong.
Just me personally, though, you know, men in general.
Well, if you're just super strong.
No, Lonnie, is that?
Women are just as physically strong as men.
You also agree with that?
Yeah, well, in my experience, whenever I've been in, like, let's say I'm at the gym, I mean, besides like the few Chads that are like super built, I feel like I am more capable.
Like, I look at my body and my performance, and I'm just more capable than most people in there.
And then when it comes to like my future soldier training, I outperform every man there.
You think so?
So amongst the soldiers?
Men these days, like, I feel like the majority of them are very, like, they're not fit.
They're not as fit as they should be.
And a lot of the women I know are actually more like physically capable.
Like, we're faster, more agile.
But it's probably like my, that's my live truth because I mean, I'm a, I'm a pole dancer, so I know a lot of other pole dancers and we're very physically strong.
Do you guys think if you got in a fight with a man, you would win?
Yes.
It depends on like how big the man is.
Y'all will get mad.
It depends what the man is looking like.
I can't fight, but like if he's huge, I'm good.
I do agree with it because I'm a pretty big bitch.
I'm not going to lie.
Like, I could definitely fight a dude if he was like skinny.
Maybe not the same weight as me, but I could definitely beat a dude up.
How about the guy who weighs just as much as you?
Nah, he'll probably rock my shit.
This is crazy.
Okay, well, I mean, at least you grant that, but so women physically stronger than like how about in general?
Dude, just walk around when you go, when you walk around outside, literally everybody's overweight and like unfit, like genuinely.
I don't know, the gay man.
I don't know.
think men are stronger and i think that's like how it oh boy oh boy No, I wasn't oh boying at you.
Oh, okay.
It's like, gosh, I'm surprised you oh boy to that.
But anyway, no, I think men are stronger, and I think that's how like they're genetically set up, and that's why they take on like the strong role.
Like I'm going to say, like, I've always hired a man to move my furniture.
I'm not doing it.
Sorry.
Well, they should be, though.
I'm the same mom.
They should be.
They should be, but most of them aren't in shape these days.
So do you think, how about this question for you two?
I guess we can include you.
Do you think you're stronger than the majority of men?
So stronger than 51% of men.
Yes.
Nah.
Also, yes.
Nah, you're not political.
You're not really strong.
You can't see it.
Let me ask.
You have to keep in mind we all have different lives.
We are like our who we see in our everyday life might look different because we live in different cities and we see different people.
You know how they were having a hundred guys fight a gorilla?
Are you going to be the 100 bitch to fight a gorilla?
I don't know.
Why the fuck would I fight a gorilla?
Exactly, because the gorilla would win.
But there's probably a high chance that some guys will survive from that gorilla.
Even if you did 100 women, I don't think the gorilla would win.
Really?
Why?
Well, I think it's just a lot of people.
100 people is a lot, and like you could basically dogpile.
like the gorilla will fuck both men and women up but like that girl little if If you collectively are like, okay, some people are going to have to sacrifice themselves.
Whether you're men or women, like if you go one by one at the gorilla.
No.
Yeah, that's bad.
But if you fucking all attack at the same time, men, and I even think women would be able to take the gorilla.
The first 50 would be fucked.
Yeah, that sacrifice.
First 50, statistically, first 50, they're fucked.
You guys are going to get our strengths called the whole.
So the other 50 would have to be great bodybuilder bitches.
If you put a gorilla in a lion in a fight.
Where'd the lion come from?
Because the lion is pretty fucking strong, too.
And if we're comparing a lion to maybe women, I don't know.
Fuck it up.
I think the lion would win against.
You think the lion would win?
I guess it's a gorilla, though.
It's a gorilla.
Hold on, let's get back to this.
she got four hands okay bro you guys are what is going on The liquor hitting you already.
Catching his head already.
You guys are not.
You're stronger than like maybe three per I don't even know the numbers.
I think we're mentally stronger.
I think we can.
No, but the question is about physical.
It's about the momentum.
I played baseball growing up on a men's tabs.
Okay, but so hold on.
How are we measuring strength here?
So I'd just be...
Arms, abs, and legs.
So, okay, how about this?
I mean, how about in a fight?
Do you think you'd win in a fight against over 51% of the men?
Well, if it was somebody of my exact same size and stature.
But size of, I mean, fighting is.
But a man.
But a man.
So he's got a lot of fun.
I feel like fighting is adrenaline, though.
So.
But if it was a transformation.
Yeah, it would be pretty even.
They already tried that in boxing matches.
They already tried putting it up again, and it didn't work.
We were talking about dwarves.
Do you guys remember this like a month or two ago?
This YouTuber, who's like a bodybuilder, he put male dwarves against female, like normal, like even tall female athletes.
i'm pretty sure it's like a genetic defect or whatever uh like and they're the dwarves out lifted these female athletes Now, the dwarves were athletes too, to be fair.
But even if you have a incentive here, incentive.
Like, the dwarves lifted more.
They were able to do all the different tasks or whatever.
They destroyed the women.
You put 15-year-old boys who play soccer and they'll scorch the elite female soccer team.
They have more agility.
It's not necessarily true.
How is it like 15-year-old boys will destroy women?
Like the Olympic team, the national team, professional athletes, they'll destroy the women.
It's because, well, I mean, I don't know about the trans women are not allowed to do that.
They have a lot of agility.
Exactly.
Yeah.
They have a lot of agility.
Yes.
Well, men are faster.
men are stronger men are in terms of the only thing that women out compete men in, uh, in terms of like athletic performance is there's a, there is a distance race, like really high distance.
I forgot the exact one.
Like, I think when you get to ultra marathon level, where I think some women do out-compete the men.
The Iron Mans.
But like everything else.
Tell you what.
You put high school boys against women, like the best high school boy against women in the Olympics, like gold.
High school boys take all the gold medals, all the silver medals, all the bronze medals.
Against Olympians.
Female Olympians.
Has this been done before?
Hold on.
Is there proof?
Yes, there's proof.
Really?
Yeah, because you can look at the records.
Pull the proof up.
You can look at the records.
Pull up the records for the cereals.
Remember that?
Pull it up.
Pull it up.
boy, I think I have it on the I didn't see the data I don't believe this shit.
How about this?
A woman has never run less than a four-minute mile, but plenty of men have run less than a four-minute mile.
Well, that's running, which isn't necessarily like the same strength, I feel like.
I mean, we're if you're asking, are men stronger than women?
Yes, men are stronger than women, but if you're asking me, do you think I'm stronger than most men that I encounter?
In general, yes, bro.
What kind of like, yes, like in my live truth, in my life, everybody that I've ever, like, when I go outside, I feel like I'm the most fit person.
Like, everybody's fucking fat and overweight.
Jack it off, show us the biceps.
She's kind of sweaty, but if she, like, I'm genuinely strong.
Yeah, that's good.
Young one, young one.
Like, I live my weight.
I bet you've been in a fight.
Has anybody here done jujitsu?
Yeah, I did karate.
Oh, I'm actually a martial artist.
I used to wrestle.
Okay, so have you ever had a guy, like a guy, not just like has a guy ever grabbed you?
I never sparred with a guy.
Yeah.
No, but when I say grabbed you, has a guy ever just grabbed your wrist?
Like, I don't think you understand like when we're talking about strength, like the strength that men can exert out.
No, but you're men should be stronger.
They should.
No, but they are.
Generally.
But they're not very fit nowadays, a lot of them.
Oh, yeah, that's sure.
Yes, women have to arm wrestle.
A lot of people.
Oh, dude, there's some fat guys out here.
They're hella strong.
Just because they're fat.
They're still strong.
Yeah, that is true.
That is true.
Big boys, big boys, big boys be the most strongest.
They get all their strength from their fat.
Oh, my God.
I do think I'm stronger than a lot of people, but I'm not in general.
Maybe not.
No, so you could.
Women can be strong.
Maybe you're stronger than 90% of women, but you're weaker than 97% of men.
Maybe.
I've knocked a lot of men on their asses, but I still wouldn't say that men would be stronger than me.
No, I wouldn't.
Like the majority of men, I wouldn't say that, but I've knocked a lot of men on their asses.
Do this experiment.
Find a guy who has a cauliflower ear.
Oh, no.
And ask him to just squeeze your wrist as hard as he can.
I don't think sometimes you comprehend like raw strength.
Anyways, I don't know.
I mean, you said you wrestled, so you wrestled a few guys, I'm assuming.
I've had cause.
So you wrestled guys before.
Justin donated 100.
How many five years olds can these young ladies take on?
My answer, infinity.
Their answer, 100.
Delusion is as delusion does.
Five-year-olds?
Why are we fighting children?
Why are we fucking crazy?
I can grab my arm and pop.
You know what?
Babies have super crazy strength.
That's true.
Babies do be having that.
Yeah.
Babies be having the craziest strength.
If anybody is the strongest, it's these babies.
These babies come out the coochie like strong boysverswomen.com.
We'll look at it for 30 seconds and I got to move along.
I've wrestled men.
I've taken down men.
I've cradled men.
I've thrown them on the ground.
I've done all that.
But there's still men that would just fucking want me.
Mary, you got it.
All right.
So this is, I'm going to read it here.
There's no video.
So this is comparing male high school athletes versus female Olympians.
So you see on the left there, all those medals under boys versus under women.
So if high school male boy athletes were to compete in the Olympics, that's all the medals that they would steal, I guess you could say, that they would take from women.
Now, this isn't.
Is this just running?
Where is this from?
What is this resource?
Yeah.
BoysversWomen.com.
I mean, you do realize that you can look at the records of boys in high school and contrast them with the records of female Olympians.
Mary, just pull it back up though, really quick.
We'll just go through down a few.
Scroll down.
They have less body weight, though.
So this is for they do swimming, track and field.
Scroll down.
Okay, so wait, wait, stay there, stay there.
Yeah.
Now it's going to re so the blue is boys.
Red is women.
Scroll up just a teeny bit.
What event is this?
100 meters.
200 meters.
So basically what it's happening is high school boys, that would be the placement as compared to female elite Olympic athletes.
Scroll down, Mary?
Not that far off.
No, they take the top 10 places.
Look, what they're going to do together.
They're not a full-grown adult.
Yeah, he's a young buck.
That's not how that works, though, because the women had more skill because they've more experience.
The boys would lose against the elite adult male athletes.
So it's not like, well, because they're young, they can run fat.
No, that's Usain Bolt would scorch all these dudes.
But what's happening here is basically if you allowed high school boys to compete, like this, of course, this is the top high school boys to compete against women, they would start taking all the top places.
Scroll down, Mary.
400 meter, 800 meter, 5,000 meter, 400 meter hurdles.
And then it's going to re-sort it.
Blue is boys.
So again, in some distance events, the women do start edging out a little bit.
Scroll down, Mary.
Relay.
It's going to re-sort it.
There's a reason.
Women and men don't compete together.
Long jump.
Because it just wouldn't be fair because men have testosterone.
Scroll down.
Not so okay.
Scroll down.
Whatever.
We get the idea.
Yeah, just look.
Men are stronger than women.
That's crazy, yo.
I think that's whatever you think.
I just mentioned that.
But what does that have to do with anything, though?
But that's like there's inside the cost.
How about this?
Is the strongest person in the world a man?
Yes.
Probably.
Probably.
Are the strongest people in the world men?
Yes.
Yes.
Probably.
Of all the different weight lifts you can do, there's squat, there's leg press, there's bench press, there's, I don't know what the Olympic lifts are.
Are the men, do the men lift more at record levels than the women?
At record level?
Men are stronger.
Sure.
Okay.
So.
Everybody knows that men have like a bigger muscle testosterone.
They literally carry less fat than women.
Like they do have stronger bodies.
But when you ask the question of like, oh, do you think you're stronger than men?
In my head, I think the men that I know that I see every day, I'm not thinking of Olympic fucking athletes and shit.
Racism and Prejudice00:15:56
That's how it's like.
Yeah, that's how the question is phrased.
Well, no, it's women are just as physically strong as men.
So that's sort of a general question here.
I mean, okay, so I acknowledge there are definitely women who are stronger than some men.
That's true.
But most men are stronger than most women.
Okay, all right, I'll move on to something else then.
Somebody also circled women are the primary victims of war.
That's no Lonnie.
Why is that?
I think I circled that just because I thought it was kind of a question that could be open-ended.
Like, I don't agree or disagree with it.
But when you think back to like World War II, like in the 40s, like what happened to women when all the men died in war?
They had to go to work.
And then after that, now we have fucking women's sovereignty or whatever.
And so now we all have to fucking work.
So in a way, I would say that they suffered a lot because of that.
But at the same time, like the men died.
So they suffered too.
So worse?
I don't know.
That's why I circled it because I just thought it would be fun to talk about.
Let me ask it like this.
So, let's say, you know, my future girlfriend, she is nine months pregnant and she's giving birth, and I'm sitting by her bedside and she squeezes my hand really hard.
Who is the primary, I won't say victim, but who's the primary sufferer of pain in that situation?
The woman giving birth.
Me with my hand being squeezed really hard, or the woman giving birth?
The woman.
Who's experiencing more pain?
The woman in birth.
Right.
Okay, so it's like, anyways, whatever.
I feel like it's a bad thing.
Yeah, everybody is.
Okay, but you're talking about bad war.
Hold on.
Esther, 21.
People of color can't be racist towards white people.
No, Ilani, you agree.
Is it Valerie?
Or I can't read Valerie?
Is that right?
People of color can't be racist towards white people.
You also agree.
Millie, people of color can't be racist towards white people.
Why is that?
For, I guess, starting with you, Esther?
Well, because it's not possible to be racist towards a group of people that isn't a minority.
Yep.
It's definition.
Okay, what do you think?
I think that you could be colorist to anybody, but racism is like systemic in America, and you can't be racist to a white person if you're a person of color because you can't, like, you're not changing the society they live in that oppresses them in certain ways.
Okay.
Well, I think you also know the white people created racism in the first place.
Well, white people created racism, or is it something that can inherently manifest itself in any race?
Nah, they probably created racism.
Probably.
Yeah.
White people.
So if all white people disappeared, would black people not be able to be able to be racist towards black people?
For sure, yeah.
I think any race can be racist towards another race.
Let's say white people never existed because your position is white people created racism.
Assuming in this hypothetical, there were never any white people ever.
Do you think like Asian people could be racist towards black people?
For sure.
But I think I feel like actually, why not speak for Asian people?
Actually, Asian people probably do be racist too.
Asian people definitely do be racist to black people.
They like, you can't date my daughter, you're black.
Can black people be racist towards Asian people?
Can black people be racist towards Asian people?
For sure, yeah.
Not as bad.
What?
You guys are.
Black people are raving.
Black people make fucking jokes about Asian people all the time.
Racism.
That's like colorism.
Yeah.
What about all those people?
Y'all can't be racist to Asian people.
Y'all are telling me y'all can't be racist to Asian people.
What about all wait, really quick?
What about all those engineers in San Francisco that were primarily targeting Asian people like in early 2020, 2020, 2021?
I just think you can't be racist towards white people.
They deserve it.
Honestly, I don't really know how to disagree.
I think you can.
I can't do racism.
I'm racist against white people sometimes.
I'm not even going to say that.
I think you can be racist to everybody, including white people.
I mean, there's all these different types of white people, right?
There's Europeans, there's Bosnians, you know, there's certain Europeans that were genocide.
There were people that, you know, were wrongfully, you know, killed.
And they were white too.
We don't talk about them.
Also, you can be racist to Asian people.
What the fuck?
Talk about.
I feel like to white people, it hurts less.
No.
It hurts less than it would for anybody else.
I mean, it depends who you depend.
It's definition.
Definition of racism or racist is that the majority to the minority.
So white people in the United States of America cannot be racist.
I don't think I mean white people are racist.
Are the racists?
That's like black people.
I'm racist to white people.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't think racism is racist.
If you go to Africa, if you go to Africa and there's a white person and the majority is black people, you are racist towards that white person.
If you go to Asia and there's a black person and you are racist towards that black person, you are racist.
That's how that's definition, by definition.
What majority is who can be racist in that area?
Yes.
I thought, isn't racist that you just are targeting them and then being mean to them because of their race?
I think that's color.
That's prejudice.
That's prejudice.
But we use the word racism because it's adjacent.
No.
And I'm pretty sure racism, when you like, like she said, it's like majority versus minority.
But we use that word in place of colorism because people are racist to each other all the time based on the color of their skin.
But that would be colorism.
Because you're not like making, you're not like making things harder for them to get in society.
So we're all racist.
No, you can be prejudiced.
I think we're all racist.
Yeah.
You can be prejudiced, definitely prejudice.
And you agree.
We can say racism.
We're all racist.
Black people can be racist.
Asian people.
Asian could be racist to Hispanic people.
We all racist.
Yeah, like white people where you're at.
No, it depends on where you're at.
For instance, when you were doing that little, the accent of the Asian lady, some people will see that as racism.
That was racist, but it's because it is extra.
That was racist.
It would be different.
What if I did a black set?
It depends on where you're at.
What if I did a black set?
No, exactly.
No, no, no, exactly.
In this table right now, in this table right now, yes, that is racist.
Because the majority versus the minority in this table right now, yes.
Is this majority, minority true?
Because I think race is just being.
That's the whole thing where it's like, okay, y'all say that.
Y'all say like, oh, Asian is like the mauling minority.
You are racist.
I'm still racist.
People be putting me in that mall minority where they're like Asian people.
Well, a lot of Asian people.
I'm just saying a lot of Asian people that you see identify as white.
That's a lot of people.
I've never heard that in my life.
First of all, no, there's Latin people that they identify.
That's why you're in LA.
Who is somebody else?
A lot of Asian people that I have encountered identify as white.
Identify.
I don't know if we can pick our white.
La Puente.
No, you guys haven't been to Diamond Bar.
I feel like some Asians identify themselves as Mexicans because they'd be in the hood with the Mexicans.
And they be raised with the Mexicans.
Isn't it true?
Who said that?
Can't Mexicans say the end?
Every Mexican I know.
Depending on where you were raised.
That's like Barry, California.
Depending on where you were raised.
Very California, very rare.
If you were raised in the hood.
Did you explain why your position on this one?
Like why?
Yeah, I did.
Okay.
Here, a couple questions, then we'll linger on it for a teeny bit, but we'll move on pretty quick.
Can, if I go to Kenya, can black people be racist towards me?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay, you're consistent at least.
Would you agree if I go to Kenya?
Where you're a minority, yeah.
If the majority is not white people, then that could be racist.
I don't agree.
I think I can't do it.
Let me read the U.S. right now.
I don't think we got to be able to do that.
You can't press a tracker.
By definition.
By definition.
But I mean, I would agree a black person, even in the U.S., could be racist towards a white person.
But I'm at least testing out, okay, if you're in a different country, would you be then racist?
But do you all, was it you, you, you, and you who was like, can't be racist towards white people?
Yeah.
You four.
I feel like it hurts less.
It hurts less for white people because they barely went through stuff.
But you know, like when they're racist to Mexican people, they call them wet backs, you know, because they crossing the border, blah, blah, blah, self-blah.
The words if we can, but because we're on the platforms, but I mean, so you're talking about systemic.
Like, so even if even if it is true that white people have not been systemically oppressed in the United States, although some people might point to the Italians or the Irish, for example, who did face some systemic oppression, you might even say, well, it's not as bad as, you know, the oppression that black people experienced.
And I probably wouldn't even disagree with you.
But I kind of reject this idea that it's just about systemic.
I think, sure, there is systemic racism.
Like institutions or whatever, governments or laws can be racist.
However, I think when I'm thinking about racism, it would be acknowledging the different types of racism.
And I would say like individual racism, for example.
So here's, I guess, the final test.
If a black man walks up to me and punches me in the face because I'm white, was that racist?
Yes.
For sure.
I think I have to know the dictionary definition of like racist and colorist to be able to answer that.
Yeah, look at prejudice.
Yeah.
Look at the definitions.
In my head, when I think racism, I think like ingrained in society.
Justin donated $100.
It's a kind of C5 is toxic.
Peak feminism.
Racist is based on majority.
What a joke.
Racist is as racist does.
Civilization building is as civilization building does.
You're welcome.
Silly girls, feminists all.
I mean, I did say like we all low-key races, though.
I guess so.
So, I mean, there's systemic racism, and then there's racism that can be experienced on an individual level.
So, I mean, and I mean, I would almost think that if there can be racism, if you're saying that white people are the dominant social group or whatever in the United States, then, like, if we're talking about the term racism, how would we apply racism to inter-racism between the non-dominant racial groups in the United States?
So, like, black and Asian, Latino and black.
I don't think you would be racist to each other because you can't like actually like take each other's rights away and shit.
Like, you know what I mean?
But I think you could be colorists or like you said, individually racist, if that's a correct thing.
You couldn't be systemically racist.
Yeah, exactly.
I think you could be.
Well, because when I hear racist, I think like extreme like that, like systemic, like you were oppressed.
Racism, no, when it was color.
What would it mean?
Like, if someone was racist towards you, like to yourself, like to your face.
Well, how about this?
If BET refused to hire a white janitor, would that be racist?
It's like the black entertainment television.
So let's say like a major, like black-owned business, and all the board members were black and the CEOs black and they're really rich, but they won't hire a white person to be a janitor who comes from a low socioeconomic background.
Would that be racism?
I know that's prejudice.
Yeah, like color.
Because they have the power.
That's co-exism.
No, racism.
No, that's not racism.
Colorism is whenever you're literally just judging off of like the tone, the skin tone, like the planet.
It don't matter about where you're from.
Like, I'm a brown Asian.
I'm Vietnamese.
I'm brown.
There are white Asians, like Koreans and Chinese.
Exactly.
So I'm a brown Asian.
So that's colorist.
Like, people favor like lighter skin Asian girls versus like a jungle.
That's prejudice, though.
That's not colorist.
No, but I'm saying at that point, if you're saying, if I'm saying something about you or I'm making your accent or whatever, that's prejudice.
That's not racist.
Racist is a specific, it's systematic.
It's literally a systematic thing.
Look up the definition.
Mary, Google racism.
Look it up.
There is systemic, systematic, institutional racism, but there's also individual, like micro-level racism.
Yes.
So both can exist.
Prejudice, discrimination.
Somebody read it for me, please.
Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual community or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group.
Typically, one that is a minority or marginalized.
Boom.
Wait, what do you mean, boom?
That doesn't matter.
Yes, it does.
It's the minority.
It's the majority over the minority.
That's no, it's the majority over the minority, but okay.
No, but it says typically.
No, it is.
So what is the vertical?
Pull it back up.
Somebody pull it back up.
Typically, typically one that is minority.
The belief that different races.
The belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.
But I mean, you would agree that a black person in America could think white people are inferior to them.
That would be racism.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We just all racist, man.
I think we just all need to fix that within ourselves.
Like, fuck.
I'm not racist, guys.
You're definitely racist.
I'm not.
You're on 4chan almost.
I feel like you've talked shit about a white person at some point in your life.
Or like someone on the road.
Maybe you got like road rage one day.
I'm not racist.
Let's see.
Adult age gap relationships are wrong.
Why is that, Jocelyn?
I'm sorry to say that again.
Wait, hold on.
Wait, really quick.
Hold on.
I'll come to that later.
Esther, women are oppressed in the USA.
How so?
I just think we're oppressed.
Really?
How so?
I mean, the fact that sex workers feel the need to do sex work and the fact that that sex work is fulfilled by a mass audience of men is example enough.
How do you define oppression?
I mean, I don't know.
I'm sleepy right now, but I just think for sure that as a man, especially a white man, you will probably have more opportunities than a woman.
Such as what?
A lot of things.
Do you think I have it easier because I'm a white man?
No, I don't think necessarily easier, but you have more opportunities.
More options, more opportunities, yeah.
I actually completely disagree.
I think women actually have more opportunities.
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As a white woman, are you white or are you kind of could be Latina almost?
No, I'm white.
You're a white girl.
Yeah, I think actually white women, American white women, are probably the most privileged class of people to have ever existed in all of humanity.
You said women in general.
Well, white women.
White women.
Yeah.
I mean, definitely, but the white man is still above white women for sure, for a fact.
No.
Still a bullshit.
It is harder.
So, I mean, the white room.
I mean, unless you want to do sex work, then that's the bonus.
Yeah, you can use your body.
Girls can do that.
We get away with a lot.
A lot of ugliness.
I like this girl.
Not the ugly one.
It was a rough start, but you're growing on me.
She won't be able to do it.
Just don't slash my tires, okay?
Don't slash me.
Don't stab me.
But you're kind of, I know you're Latina, but you're my Caucasian.
You're my Caucasian.
He just gave you the white car girl.
I'm on the back.
Please take it back.
But you know how, like, for example, where's the black?
She's black, right?
Yes.
Like, you know how black.
You know how the black person can call a white person like, my, don't say it, but my N-word?
Oh, she said it.
Don't say it.
Don't say it.
Well, I guess she can say it, I guess.
But.
On the platform, like as a white person, like, like, you're Asian, but you're my Caucasian.
You're.
Oh, I know where you're.
I like that.
You're a person.
I'm Virgin.
Well, Iranian and Asian Irasian.
Irasian?
You raisin.
You're a raisin?
A raisin?
You're Caucasian.
You're my Caucasian.
You're my Caucasian.
So, anyways, look at R-word statistics.
Look at domestic violence statistics.
Look at, let's see what else.
Even domestic violence statistics.
Yeah, domestic violence.
And I'm not saying it doesn't happen to men either.
So please do not say that I'm saying, but I'm saying it's way more common.
We have two men in here who have never laid their hands on a woman.
And we have some women in here who have laid their hands on the women.
I got some young ladies in here.
And we got some not strong women in here.
That was a rush of men.
She stabbed a.
Oh, no, that was a woman.
That was female on female crime, right?
You stabbed a woman.
I'm talking about global statistics.
She ransomed a room.
You saw the dude.
I'm sure some of y'all have a lot of people.
I'm a domestic violence survivor.
Never.
So yeah, wait, I saw this.
You got like carjacked or something.
Or wait.
I went through two violent situations.
The first one was three years ago.
Someone attacked me with a machete.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Wait, was it?
That's scary.
Was it random?
It was a random.
It hit and run.
Wait, wait.
They had a weapon.
What race were they?
They were black.
Wait, look at me.
That's race.
Look at me.
Oh, my God.
She's dead!
She did it!
They weren't.
But I didn't get married when you did your Asian accent, girl.
Why are we leaving each other?
Oh, my God.
I sensed a little bit going on in the room.
No, that was, it was actually very, very disappointing in the sense of like, I mean, it could have been anybody, but it was just, that was just what it was.
But that was three years ago, and I closed that case, went to court and all that last March.
But the domestic violence situation I was in was two years ago.
But wait, the machete car situation, was it, was that in San Francisco?
Where was it?
No, it's Houston, Texas.
I was in Texas.
I was in Texas.
Was it like mentally?
Was he mentally ill?
She was mentally ill.
Oh, is she?
It was a black woman.
It was a big bitch.
A big bitch.
Yep.
Big old ass bitch.
I'm glad you're okay, girl.
That's traumatic.
Yeah, that is crazy.
I'm glad you got you.
I wish I could have been there.
I would have.
You should have.
I mean, two, would you touch the machete or where would you go?
I would have took out my katana and fucking sliced.
She just carried it.
I do concealed carry katana on the bottom.
But no, luckily, there were two men.
There were black men that were around, and they came and like helped me.
So I was.
You disarmed the bitch.
Well, I grew up as a martial artist, so I was actually able to get the weapon out of her hand and go away as the men held her down.
Wow.
But she was a strong bitch.
She had two large men hold her down.
Was she on drugs?
I think she was.
She was just.
She had two kids up in her car.
She was just like a rage.
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What do you think?
We got Road Rage up in Texas or in general.
And luckily, it was no gun.
Who here is a feminist?
Raise your hand if you're a feminist.
It's okay.
I mean, it's okay to admit it.
I'm not.
I want to be put up.
Right.
I'm like half past.
I'm like, I kind of vacuum, cook, clean, get fucked.
That's what I want.
I mean, there's how.
There's no deep meaning.
I don't know.
Can I ask?
Because I never really want to say, like, what makes a feminist to be honest.
I mean, there's different definitions.
I think the easiest would probably be: you want a movement towards equality with a dismantling of the patriarchy.
That would be feminism.
Well, charitable.
Without dismantling the patriarchy?
With a dismantling.
Yeah, I don't need to dismantle shit.
I think I'm good.
I love my girls, though.
Gotta say.
Moving on to a different topic, Jocelyn.
Men should pay on first dates.
Huh?
Just, I guess, yes or no.
Men should pay on first dates.
You circled yes.
Wait, would you say women?
Men should pay on first name.
Men should pay on first dates.
Oh, men should pay.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Men should provide and protect.
Yes.
Men should be chivalrous.
Yeah.
Husband should be willing to die protecting you.
Oh, yeah.
What's the point of that?
You will keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage.
I'll add it to my name.
Like, I want to keep my last name.
They don't have his last name too, but I'm going to keep mine last name.
You'll keep your last name.
Proud.
Damn, bro.
Guys got to pay for dates, provide, protect, be chivalrous.
I feel like if I got to take a bullet for a woman, she's got to take my last name.
I said I was going to add it, but I want to keep my last name.
No, add.
Remove my last name.
Jocelyn.
I don't know.
Whatever guy you name.
But what if she, what if she comes to me?
My name is Jocelyn.
When I make a name for myself, I want to keep it.
I want to keep classic videos.
Look, if it's Jocelyn Gertrude Wynn, it's going to become Jocelyn Gertrude Smith.
That's just saying you can't do Jocelyn Gertrude Wynn Smith.
You got to get rid of the Wynn.
Wynn, you probably going to be Smith.
You got to get rid of the Wynn and start winning with your husband.
This is his last name, plural.
I mean, the kids can have his last name.
I don't need to have his last name.
Esther, same for you.
You say men should pay on first dates, men should provide, protect, or at least you agree with these.
Men should be chivalrous.
Husband should be willing to die protecting you.
Take the bullet.
You're going to keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage.
Yes.
So hyphenate or keep your last name?
I'll hyphenate.
Do you want kids?
Yeah.
Will they have hyphenated last name, your last name, or husband's last name?
Honestly, I don't really care either way for theirs.
Like, have whatever.
Damn, bro.
You got to do all this shit, and the girl won't even take your last name.
Crazy shit.
The guy is mining on her.
Yeah, you have offspring.
They're going to love your name.
My question is, like, why, though?
Wait, oh, shit, we got the fiance.
Oh, okay.
The engaged girl here.
Men should pay on first dates.
Men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
Husband should be willing to die protecting you.
You're, and you're, you're about to get married, I guess.
You're going to keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage?
I mean, if it's important to my fiancé for me to drop it, I'll drop it.
I'm flexible.
Well, have you guys talked about that?
We haven't, but I'm assuming that he would want me to take it.
So.
But why did you circle this then?
I don't know.
I guess I'm kind of like 50-50 on it, you know?
Would you fight him on it?
No, I wouldn't.
Like, would you give him pushback if he's like, look, and he was polite, but he's like, hey, look, babe, you know, just wanted to clarify this because I was watching you on the podcast and I'm reconsidering the marriage.
But would you, you know, look, when we get married, are you going to take my last name?
Right?
Sure, babe.
Oh, that's it?
Hey, look, if that's a convo, but if you're like going to nag him about it, but it's, I got to change my credit cards.
Oh, my God.
No, I'm not going to do any of that.
Okay.
That's fair.
Does that mean yours?
Okay.
We're not going to do everything on this questionnaire, but maybe one or two more.
Then there's a few more notes.
Past should not matter, body count.
Passion not matter.
Do you think men who care about body count, do you think they're insecure little bitches?
Facts.
Facts.
Please don't bring the gay people into this.
Wait, what's wrong with the gay people?
Yeah, what's wrong with gays?
It was a double, double entendre, I guess.
Go ahead.
Oh, personally, I would care about body count.
Okay.
But you think men who care about a woman's body count, like that's insecure on the man's part?
As long as it's a mutual, then I'm like, that's fine.
Jocelyn, what about you?
Are men insecure if they care about a woman?
Are men little bitches?
No, insecure.
Specifically little bitches.
Are they insecure if they care about a woman's past, her body count?
I think a little.
A little?
Okay.
A little.
Esther.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay, what are they?
I feel like they can be, but I also feel like it could just be preference.
Okay.
What about you?
I feel like it's childish as fuck.
Childish as fuck.
What do you think?
I think it depends which man it comes from.
Now, it's like a religious man who comes from like a good home and like I like he's acted accordingly himself.
The guy has a high body count and he cares about it.
Oh, he has a high body count and he cares.
Oh, then fuck.
I'm off.
I would like to roll my eyes.
I got it.
Icky Dicky.
I don't get a bitch.
I'm fine with it, actually.
I think it's totally fine for a man to, even if he has a high body count, to prefer a low body count on the woman.
I mean, prefer judge is a little different, I guess.
I don't even have that conversation.
But why?
Millie noctose?
I need to know.
It's definitely a double standard, but yeah, I think men should watch out for girls that have high body counts, especially because we could carry more than a man can.
But you said passion not matter in your response on the questionnaire.
I said passion?
Like you circled passion not matter.
You agree with that.
No, I agree.
I agree.
Men that don't want to date girls with high body counts like that's cool.
Okay.
What about you?
I think that if a man has a high body count, I'm not sure if he's able to request the same in return.
You know, I think that both probably people that have high body counts are not going to be interested in being in a relationship or they're going to have trouble in navigating in a relationship.
But I think overall, if a man has a high body count, he probably cannot be asking for a woman to have a lower one.
It's hypocritical.
What about just like in general, if a man cares in general about body count, do you think that that's insecure?
Or do you think it's valid?
It depends.
It depends if somebody's religious, like you were saying, or if it's kind of more of an ideology.
No, it's just like you don't believe in shit, except for big body counts.
It doesn't care about any of that.
I think anything else.
Then, I mean, it's a preference, you know, but they're going to have to be able to provide a valid reason why.
Not with me necessarily.
I mean, I don't know, but I just don't really think that it can be something that'd be robust.
Well, going around the table, I'm going to sort of start it a little differently here.
Going around the table, what's your body count starting with Millie?
Hmm.
I don't know.
Uh.
So, like, did you forget?
Is that what you mean?
I don't want to disclose that.
A lot of women don't really care to disclose that shit.
A range?
Like, I know sometimes it's like you might forget the exact number, but you want to do, like, try to do a range or something.
Probably like 10 to 15.
How many women?
Oh, women too?
Yeah, let's count women.
20 to 25.
I'm counting women.
Body count?
Men, five.
Women, like 30 to 40.
Okay, what about you?
I love what's my Fifth Amendment right?
I mean, you know, look, I feel like you gotta do me a solid because you're, you know, running a little late.
You gotta do me a bit of solid.
Oh, now I do you a solid.
Okay, now all of a sudden, all of a sudden.
Shit, I don't fucking know.
I don't really give a shit.
Like, I don't care about none of that.
Take a guess.
Take a gander?
Like, take an estimate.
Since, like, fuck, I don't know.
I can't.
I don't know.
To be honest.
Over 100.
Fuck no.
Fuck no.
It ain't that ran through.
Huh?
Why'd you go up?
You went up after I said fuck no?
You said thousands.
Oops.
That's what you said when you slipped in every woman, huh?
50.
Oops.
When I slipped in a woman?
When you slipped in the woman.
Oops.
I don't know, man.
I don't know my fucking body count.
I don't care to count.
50 to 100.
It's definitely not 100.
It's definitely not 50.
It's way less than that.
50 on that.
It's way less than.
Can you tell us how many women you done?
Hood rats?
No, you'd be surprised the women that I have slept with.
They're actually very high-tier women.
Okay, they got their businesses and everything.
I did not mean to.
Yes, I don't.
If I was to ever be with a woman, it's not no sleazy bitch.
I've never.
I'm very happy.
Yeah, I love me some bad bitches.
Yeah, I love bad bitches only.
We'll come back to you.
Body count.
Be honest, girl.
Be honest.
This is your moment to shine.
Be honest.
One that I remember.
You know who you are.
Yikes.
One guy.
One.
Yikes.
Wait, how old are you?
22.
Oh, yeah, just 22.
For all the other ones, you were on fucking heroin.
I mean, I'm just saying, like, there's one good one.
You know who you are.
It's still the rest are the one that compared to you.
Give us the intel.
Come on.
This is girl time right now.
I'm not here.
I'm going to put away.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go to boyfriends.
Okay, I'll put it like this.
I had two boyfriends.
I remember one of you.
Okay.
How many lady friends have you had?
I've only slept with one girl before, and it was like actually, actually, that was a hookup idea.
What about you?
Body count?
Under 15.
Okay.
Any women in there?
No.
Jocelyn?
Two.
Two.
Damn, Jocelyn.
We got to get you some dick.
Girl.
But they ain't got to be.
We got to get you some good dicks soon, girl.
You have my peace, girl.
Hey, you could get some dick and still have your piece.
That's all I'm going to say.
She gets good dicks.
She's like a woman.
Yeah, but she knows what's up.
Yeah, she likes POCs.
I know she'd be looking at me in this corner, but she's always like.
You just look over at me and you're like, so I don't know.
I'll fuck with you.
I'll fuck you.
Zero.
Say it again.
Zero.
Body count?
I can't disclose it.
Oh, hey, yo, you gotta do me a solid here.
You were an hour late.
I think you gotta do the body count reveal today.
Sorry.
Legally, I can't disclose it.
Legally?
Body count?
What's your body count?
I don't even know.
That's a good question.
What's your body count?
No, we're not a body count.
I'm a virgin.
You're a little older than all of us.
I've never felt the warmth of a woman.
Just fucking.
I'm a virgin.
Okay.
You felt the warmth of her ass.
I love you.
You felt the warmth of some asshole, though.
What the fuck?
I mean, if you ain't getting no coochie, then you must have some ass.
That's why I stick to anal sex.
You're so right.
Yeah, my body count doesn't go up if I fuck to walk fucking.
That's the hole that God can't see.
So, what's your body count?
Be for real.
I'm a virgin.
You're 38, you say?
I'm a virgin.
36.
You fucking join me.
I know you mean.
I know you love me.
Stop the cat.
Your future.
Stop the cat.
Yeah.
Please stop the cap.
Yeah.
Maybe one day I'll lose my virginity.
You see, if you're not disclosing, I'm not about to disclose.
There you go.
Fuck yeah.
Sign me up.
Sign me up.
Get me an album.
When did you lose your virginity?
Half your virginity, though, babe.
But how old were you?
That's a half fuck.
Yeah.
How old were you when you lost your virginity, though?
Okay, yeah.
Well, we'll go around the table on this.
I was 17 when I lost my virginity.
Just skip.
I don't even think she's 19.
I think you're older.
Some of the OF girls, they lie about their age.
What about you?
That's my.
Show me your idea.
I was like 18, 19, like freshman in college.
Was it a boyfriend?
It was a boyfriend.
It was my first love.
Jocelyn.
It's true.
I feel like you're downplaying your game.
I do.
I attract.
I attract, but that don't mean I don't let that men.
Jocelyn, I don't let that men.
Was it a rapper?
Who was the number two?
The first one?
Number two.
Was it a rapper?
No, he was a tech guy, and he was Bosnian.
Two white guys?
No.
First one was black.
The second one was Bosnian.
Lost your virginity.
Period.
Virginity.
To a Big D.
Yeah.
Period.
Red guy.
Period.
Nah, when I lost my virginity, I made sure that motherfucker was a small dick.
I wanted to make sure.
I didn't make sure.
I had to make sure.
I'm sorry, I had to.
Wait, wait.
So I'm just curious because, like, you know, one of my first girlfriends, actually, she's Vietnamese.
And let me tell you, her parents were racist as fuck.
Towards you?
No, no, but like her dad was like, she would tell me her parents would disown her if she dated the black guy, right?
My mom is racist.
My dad wasn't.
So, but how did your parents feel about the black?
My mom hated that shit.
But my dad, he was cool with it.
Okay.
He was like, yeah, good for you, girl.
I was curious because, you know, I heard some Asian parents, sometimes they can be a little.
Yeah.
You know, a little.
It's true.
You know what I'm saying?
It's true.
That's what I'm saying.
It's true.
For shizzle.
It's true.
Wait, how old was I?
Yeah, when you lost your V card.
18.
18.
16?
I was 19.
I also was 18.
I got pregnant.
Balancing Sex Generations00:02:45
Damn, late bloomers.
Oh, what?
You're pregnant.
Whoa, Yeah, that's what I was talking about.
You got the first time.
You have hella phones.
You smashed?
No, it wasn't the first time I smashed.
I promised my mom that I would keep my virginity either until I graduated or I turned 18, whichever came last.
I turned 18, so I was with my boyfriend, first baby daddy, and we were like smashing for like six months.
Within six months, somewhere I got pregnant.
Okay, I thought it was like the first time you had sex.
No, it was just crazy that you were like, were you on birth control?
No.
Was he just full balancing?
Full blasting?
He wants the whole picture.
Was he full balancing in that job?
Look, you got if the girl's not on birth control, you can't just, you got to pull out.
I used to take a lot of Plan B.
I mean, they were younger, too.
I know.
And then I got, I used to have braces.
I got like jaw surgery, so then I didn't take some for like that time.
You know what I'm saying?
What about you?
Age, virginity lost.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, that's a word.
I'm looking for a number.
I was 18 and he called his mom after.
Oh, yeah.
They must have been scared.
He nutted it in.
He was like, I didn't know.
Mom, what did I do?
How about you?
17.
Okay.
I mean, I've heard some crazy shit on this podcast.
People are losing their shit.
We high-value women up in here.
I feel like that was generation.
They was out there fucking when they was like 13, 14.
Like, our parents probably was out there fucking around that age.
You know what?
It is true that my understanding is that like younger people like Gen Gen Z, I guess at this point, maybe going in.
What is the alpha?
What is Gen A?
We're learning from our parents' mistakes.
They're all like, it's actually the Gen Z is the generation having the least amount of sex.
Yeah.
Not to say that they're not having sex.
They're having the least amount of sex.
Then like millennials are having less sex as compared to like Gen X and boomers.
And at least if you compare for the age, like Gen X people when they were 20.
I love boomers when they were fucking.
They had a different economy.
That's true.
They had a different fucking economy.
You know why?
You know why they were fucking?
Because the music back then.
No, the music back then.
They had usher that had Trey songs.
That was war.
That was war.
The baby making music on their outcome back then.
So they were real romantical back then.
Why Gen Z Saves Sex00:16:09
Yeah.
I love sex.
Yeah.
R. Kelly.
Thank you for sharing.
Sex is great.
Actually, we've had some women who are like, I don't really like sex.
I don't.
You don't like sex, really?
No, it doesn't matter.
I used to say that.
Is it because you can't climax?
It's because I just, it's so like transactional.
And like, I haven't been, like, there's only been one guy that I guess I was in love with that I had sex with, and even then it was like mid and I was young.
And so like, I think I'm just waiting to like the person you waiting for aliens to come on our planet.
You're probably gonna fucking maybe I'm just not like a sex motivated person.
I guess I just don't really care for it.
I think you just haven't found like a person to well I don't even like jerk off either.
So I don't jerk off.
That's so interesting.
I don't think I've met a person that's like that.
That's really and and you're in the industry too.
Is that why?
No.
No, I think it's because like no, I used to be like that until I met my man.
Yeah, period.
Now I love it.
I'm just like, whatever.
I don't know.
Yeah, weirdly.
I love it.
That it makes man.
Well, shit, I don't know.
I'm a Scorpio, so sex is amazing.
Yeah, y'all some freaks.
I feel the freaky way.
They're freaky as fuck.
Men or women.
I've always wanted to have sex with the transgender.
Is it woman or man?
I wouldn't.
I like each way.
Yeah, yeah.
Gigi's co-people would be so good because it's like I'm getting everything at one time, you know?
Like, I'm getting like, and then I get to get at the same time.
I don't even know how it goes.
Dude, if somebody would let me, but that's a new term.
If anybody needs menu, if you are a transgender and you're watching this, slide into it.
I love it.
No new coochie.
She still wants the oak stuff.
Yep.
All right, moving on.
So go to Jocelyn.
We're going to do your notes.
We're going to try to go as quickly as possible through everybody's notes here.
On the train thing, I mean, we already covered that.
Okay.
But basically, I just really quick.
I think that you can do all that effort and it doesn't mean anything.
I mean, I think you just got that.
Look, I think as a guy, you just got to invite the girl over to your place.
That's the first move.
Fuck a date, fuck a dinner, fuck a drink, fuck doing, I'm going to take her to the aquarium in San Diego and pay for a hotel.
And you just got to be like, come over.
You're going to do my laundry.
You're going to hit a bow.
And you're gonna clean my house.
That's the first date.
You want a fucking mate?
You want a fucking mate?
No, wait.
And then right after that date, you have to pay my 500.
You're not the only guy who has said this, actually.
Hold on.
Uh-oh.
Look what's coming, you motherfuckers.
The fucking flags.
I'm red carding you.
Whoa.
You guys continue to do the fucking sidebars.
No, I was saying it in the mic.
I was adding to what you said.
She was talking, then she was talking, and then y'all were.
Okay, this is your fucking punishment, both of you.
Damn, I got red carded.
Okay, so do you see that window in front of you, that window in front of you?
I want you both to stand up and face the wall and think about what you've done.
You're going to put me in timeout?
You're both in fucking timeout.
Stand up.
Stand up and face the wall.
Check my boots.
Don't say shit.
Don't do it.
Can they see?
Okay, Fawn Dutch.
Don't.
Actually, normally I put them in the corner, but I feel like this also works.
Okay, so.
I want to see what that is.
Hey, wait, don't touch the sun.
Don't touch the merch.
Keep your put your hands behind your back.
And shake it like, now count to 100.
Oh my god, this is a dream come true.
Simon says, touch your toes.
Now think about what you guys have done.
If you cry, that also is appreciated.
You bad, bad girl.
You bad girl.
Somebody grab the whip.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
He's manifesting his orgy right now, guys.
He's looking at the cameras.
Look at these face submissive.
No, I'm just kidding.
So, okay, let's get back to the.
What would you do if I just fucking disgusting?
Women should not.
I just like wafted it towards you.
I parted four times in this car.
Go fart over here.
It's wafting.
If you guys want to do it.
Are you wearing, what are they called?
Panty hose?
Yeah, they keep me warm.
I don't remember the last time I saw a woman wearing them.
I wear them every day.
A classy woman.
I see a few artists wearing them.
High value.
High value.
Jocelyn.
Where were we?
The train.
Yes, I agree.
He was doing way too much.
The bow, the laundry.
I want a maid.
Oh, you want a maid?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
The first date, you want a girl to come over and clean your apartment.
Do my laundry, at least like first time.
The first date.
First time over at my place, she should do my.
You're fucked.
Go hire somebody.
Go hire somebody.
Hire somebody.
My actual roommate, he said the same thing, actually.
But you're asking for a first date.
That's a girlfriend.
Yeah, she's about to be my girlfriend.
What if she does that shit?
Like, just off the first date.
Are you worried she'd find too much out about you?
Like, you're letting her in your house?
Girls don't want to clean your messy ass shit.
Clean your shit up for yourself.
Yeah.
No.
Well, my son.
I would do it if you pay my rent.
Myself?
Period.
Yes.
Well, that's transactional.
I'm bills that I'll do it.
I clean my ex-husband's the first day I went over his house.
I mean, I would look at it this way, though.
So it's like, no, I'm not going to do that shit immediately.
But like, whoever, whatever girl's with me long term, she's not going to have to work.
Everything's going to be taken care of.
I love her.
Love that for her.
Love it.
But ultimately, yeah, I think, you know, I think the woman should be doing the simp shit.
I think I like when women simp.
Women should be simping.
Women should be doing simp shit.
Only if the man is that type of man that provides that safety, that protection, that, you know, that whole environment for her to be able to do that.
Oh, yeah.
Wait, my man says the same thing.
He always tells me, like, how it's supposed to be: the woman is supposed to like the man more.
Why?
I never understood that.
The woman is not supposed to like the man more.
That's what you said?
Yeah.
The woman is supposed to like the man more.
I feel like I never worked.
Yeah, he said how he said it controversy.
If the guy likes the girl more, like, it usually never works.
I hear that, but I also don't understand that.
The girl has to be the fan.
It can't be the reverse.
You can't, if you're a fan to a woman, that's just.
If you're a fan to a woman, you should be each other's fans, to be honest.
Well, that sometimes works, but that's pretty rare.
Usually, there's like the desire.
Wait, what?
What?
Not desired.
It's shit.
There's a term for it.
Lust.
Not desired.
No, no, no.
It's the admired.
Wait.
Admiration?
Fuck, wait.
Hold on.
Orion Terrorban.
Orion Terror Band.
Desired.
Admired?
Fuck, I can't find it.
Whatever.
Doesn't matter.
I don't know where we're going with that.
Mary, this is a good time for the bow video.
Yep.
Not you getting choked up.
I'm not choked up.
Just say, what happened?
No, I just couldn't find the words for what I was trying to describe.
All right, this is a video I took of my ex-girlfriend.
I show it to future girlfriends as like, you ever seen like an instructional video or tutorial?
This is a tutorial video.
I sit my future potential girlfriend down, or even I'll send it to her before like she comes and meets me.
I'll be like, look, this is my expectation.
This is what I expect.
Fuck your ex-video.
You're going to show your new girl an excuse.
Can they send you a video?
That's like sociopathic.
Yeah, like, what if she sent you a video of her getting fucked by her ex?
Yeah, and this is how I want you to perform.
This is what I expect.
Haram, degenerate, despicable, absolutely not.
But this is totally acceptable.
Go ahead, Mary.
Play that show.
Okay.
Double standard.
Bow.
Huge bow.
Do you see the fucking?
That is not your ex.
Submissive hand.
This is AI, bro.
This is AI, bro.
And so, look, I got home from a long day podcasting.
She had my dinner ready.
She's scampering.
I love when a woman scampers like that.
Very attractive.
Cracks a beer open for me.
My dinner's ready to eat.
I step home, you know.
And I actually, you see those tomatoes, those raw tomatoes?
There actually dumped her because of that.
That was ridiculous.
How dare you?
This is not your girl.
One more time.
The bow, Mary, just the bow.
Boom.
As soon as I get home, I want a woman to hit a bow.
And that's my.
This ain't Japan, bro.
Like, what?
I had a roommate.
I had a roommate that was like that.
She had a bum ass man, and she did all the fucking work for this man.
W him.
No, that shit was oh my god.
Can I want to be a bomb?
But no.
No, I'm saying W that he was doing nothing and getting everything.
Good for him.
Well, don't you?
I think be like what you're looking for.
You need to go travel somewhere.
Like, go find that.
I'll have a white chick, dude.
You got to be passport boys or something.
You don't see no white girl, no Asian girl, no black.
Why don't you just hire a mate?
You're not going to find that out.
I have a girlfriend.
So you want to find that out.
No, that is rent a girlfriend.
I mean, rent a girlfriend.
Yeah.
Like, rents a gender.
Yeah, I rent a girlfriend.
You just made your percentage go even lower.
That's right.
You're paying the bill.
She just went.
Since girl will probably do that for you.
Bro.
Look, I don't think she'll bow.
Look, it's how about this?
Would you agree that a girl, like the first, like for some girls will fuck right away?
So my perspective is: I'm Mr. Wholesome over here.
I want a girl to cook and clean for me.
But like, y'all girls take issue with what I just showed you.
You'll have a man's cock deep down the back of your throat, and I'm the bad guy.
Sure, wait, what?
Y'all, y'all will let a man come inside you, come on top of you.
Ain't nobody coming inside of me or on me, okay?
It's all up in me.
Shooting up the clip.
But like, how?
You'll let a guy hit right away.
You'll let a guy fuck right away.
You'll suck and chuck and blah, blah, blah.
Chug, chug, I guess.
Chug.
Chug chug.
Chug.
But somehow I'm the bad guy.
I'm the bad guy because I just want a little wholesome laundry.
But you just want to bow anything for her.
You just want to bow, is what you want.
You want your bitch to bow for you.
Yes, I want the bow.
It's a sign of respect.
She respects me as a man.
She defers to my authoritarian.
So you just want an Asian slave.
That's what you want.
You want an Asian slave.
He just wants an Asian woman.
You like that.
You want your power trip stuff.
It could be an Asian woman, but it could be a Latina woman.
It could be a white woman.
It could be.
You're emphasizing on bow.
Who else is going to bow?
Latinas don't bow to nobody.
Black women don't bow to shit.
The only women that were ever bowed for anybody were the Asian women.
You embraced each other.
I'll bow.
Nah, nah.
Just being from like Hispanic, I mean, I can probably just shake my family.
You're going to bow, girl?
No, she's going to stab.
We're going to cook and clean.
That's okay.
We're going to cook and clean bowmen.
I will say, I do know a lot of people, especially in my family, the men and the women, they do like Caucasians and they do treat them very nicely.
Why we do that?
Oh, shit.
Because they want some papers.
So if you get somebody from Peru, they probably come and bow.
I'm not going to share details, but let's just say, you know, I did have a Peruvian gal.
I had a Mexican gal.
And, bro, they did way more than that.
Yeah.
I had them doing.
I can, I believe that.
I believe that.
Look, if a girl likes you, she'll do.
Come on, she'll do that.
She'll do anything.
Yeah, if a girl likes you, she won't do anything.
But he's asking for our first date.
I feel like because those girls didn't have first dates, until you presented it to him.
He was on the first date.
I want it all.
I want everything.
That says day one.
We in love.
We want that.
That's what I said.
Day one, you want that?
But he doesn't even want to pay for the date.
Oh, no.
Hold on.
He said he was thinking.
Women are deserving of that.
I wasn't, just to be clear, I'm not saying men shouldn't do that.
But yeah, like, okay, if the girl's coming over, I'm taking care of everything, right?
What does that mean?
DoorDash.
Hold on.
The Uber.
The Uber, the DoorDash.
What?
Look, you guys got to understand I'm in a bit of an interesting dating situation.
So for the past, I've been doing the podcast for since 2022.
So that's, it's about three and a half years, almost four years.
I've been doing the podcast.
And to be clear, in that time period, I've shot my shot here and there.
I've been the one to shoot my shot.
When you shoot your shot, you have less leverage.
It is harder to get some of those things.
However, when you have a popular podcast, when you have some degree of clout, when you're out there publicly, women will come to you.
And so I have the leverage.
So if a woman approaches me, then I can dictate the terms.
The woman comes into my frame if she wants to be with me.
And so I'm assuming if she watches the show, she has some sense of my expectations.
She has some sense of she's probably seen that bow video.
And so because of my situation, most men are not going to be able to pull this off.
What I'm suggesting, unless the girl's coming, unless the girls kind of come into them.
If a girl comes to me, I've got all the leverage.
Congratulations.
You guys are doubting that I can get this, but I didn't doubt.
If you got money, if you got a clout, you know, that's going to attract certain women, and they're going to go for you.
Are you American?
Yeah.
And you're white, yeah.
There are gonna be people who have you in it.
Those are the kind of high-value women you want.
All right, all right.
Good job, chasing woman.
That's definitely high value.
Go get your club.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Yes, that's how.
I mean, hold on.
Let's explore what women want.
Men should pay on first aids, men should provide, protect.
Men should be chivalrous.
Not all of you circle this one.
Husband, and I assume even the boyfriend should be willing to die for you.
Yes.
So if women can have the standard that in order for us men to be with you, I'm not saying in all instances throughout the course of a romantic relationship or marriage, even if it lasts for life, that the man is going to find himself in some like, I need to take the bullet for situation.
But the expectation still remains.
If women can say men should, men should protect, men should provide, men should be willing to die.
How could you actually, like, if women say men should be willing to die, how can you object to me saying a woman should be my servant?
How could you actually object?
I'm just saying, if you're willing to die for me, sure, fuck it.
I'm going to do your laundry and cook for you.
Yeah, and including you said, husband should be willing to die protecting me.
So I actually think that's a higher calling of sacrifice.
But I'm also giving birth to your children.
I'm also making your apartment a home.
Like, I'm contributing to your mental, emotional well-being, raising your kids.
But my objection here is the outrage over, oh my God, Brian, you want a woman to do an effortless bow and do your laundry and cook and clean for you?
Y'all want men to die for you.
I would bow and die for my men.
Men Proactive In Dating00:15:08
I'm going to bow to you if you're going to die.
No, I ain't bowing to you.
I'm not fucking bowing to you because I don't respect you.
You die.
Black woman, real quick.
Just she tough.
She tough.
She enjoyed that.
You fine, girl.
You fine.
I'm not into a bow.
Look at that happen.
No, you bad.
I'm not a fucking technique.
No, anyway.
I'm not doing that.
She's from Houston.
She's not doing that to me right now.
She has the card.
She's from Houston.
She's from Houston, Texas, baby.
She got, I know.
She got, and she likes POC.
Fuck it.
Let her do the fuck out of here.
Let her do what she wants to do.
I'm good, Mary.
What's my phone to call?
Okay, that's fine.
Anyways, look, I'm just saying, are you going to do a bow, though, just for the last time?
Not to you.
No.
Not to you.
I won't bow.
No man.
That is worthy.
That's the Asian counterpart.
There you go.
Thank you.
Lesbians.
Period.
I'm lesbian.
I'm a woman.
I'll bow to all you guys.
Eat it up.
Eat it up.
I won't come back up, but I'll bow.
Your other note here: you said, why are we rushing and putting so much pressure on trying to find the right person or getting involved with someone?
You say, live your life, work on yourself, be happy, love will come to you.
Jocelyn, you are 27?
Yes.
Do you want to get married?
Yes.
Do you want to have kids?
Yes.
When would you ideally like to start having kids?
How many kids do you have?
I'm going to be like 30, early 30?
Okay.
So I think two things.
I think women do need to be considerate of their biological clock and fertility window.
And look, to be fair, women can get pregnant into their late 30s, even in their 40s, right?
So some people, well, once she's over 25, we got technology now, too.
Yeah, but as women do age, in terms of the dating market, women have less leverage.
Their options, the quality of their options decrease.
The number of their options tend to decrease.
So women do need to be considerate of biological reality there.
So this idea that, you know, putting pressure, live your life, work on yourself, be happy, love will come to you.
The second component that I disagree with is: do you recommend this advice to men?
I mean, they don't have to worry about a biological clock.
So they don't have that same true, but well, I mean, it's like they could be old as fucking get a young girl fucking pregnant.
They can, but I mean, obviously, if you want to like be there for your kids, you probably want to have kids on the younger side, even as a man.
But that don't stop him from his CUD all around.
Yeah, well, men can get women pregnant into their 60s, 70s, 80s, but that's probably like not ideal in terms of if you want to like raise the kids, have a family.
But I guess my question is more so in terms of do you recommend this advice to men?
Is that because you're saying, why are you rushing, putting so much pressure, live your life, work on yourself, be happy.
Love will come to you.
My criticism here with my second question in terms of love will come to you, I think that can sort of apply to women.
It can be applied to men.
But it can't be applied to men.
Yeah, because sometimes men settle.
Well, there's the pursuer-pursued dynamic.
So, women, you enjoy the privilege and benefit of men pursuing you.
You can just sit back, really, and men will come to you.
You can sit back, you can be passive, men will come to you.
Men, for most men, especially the average man, most men, women don't come to them.
Men have to be proactive when it comes to dating.
Women are very passive when it comes to dating.
Women don't, women rarely approach.
They rarely shoot their shot, or they shoot it far less.
When they do shoot their shot, usually they're like we talked about earlier, they're shooting out of their league.
They take initiative far less.
They don't know how to move things forward to the same degree that men can move things forward.
Even when women do take initiative, it's token initiative.
So, what that would mean is we saw this on a dating app called Bumble, where it forced women to send the first message.
But what women would do on this app, it wasn't, I'm going to be proactive in the entire dating process.
It was, I'm going to send a message, I'm going to send a hey, and then immediately, aside from that token initiative, immediately shift all the burden right back on men.
So it's just completely token initiative.
So even when women do take initiative, totally token, they still expect the man.
Like a woman will go up to a guy, be like, you want my number?
And then the burden goes right back on the guy.
The guy's got to set shit up.
The guy's got to try to plan things, move things forward.
Even when girls have slid into my DMs, I'm the one who has to basically take the reins, which, by the way, I'm not complaining.
I think it's great that they're even taking that initiative.
I'm totally fine with a girl shooting her shot, sliding into the DMs.
I'm happy to take the reins.
But women typically, once they've done their token initiative, it's like, here you go, back to the guy.
And so we take the reins back.
We'll continue that on.
And so I think this advice only applies to women because if you tell a man, just sit back and don't really change anything and love will come to you.
That's fairy tale language we can tell women, but I don't think we can tell men, just sit back and a girl will come to you.
Doesn't work like that.
Men have to be proactive.
Men have to shoot their shot.
They got to approach women.
The fuck are you doing, lady?
I mean, yeah, we drop the handkerchief.
Y'all pick that shit up and come to us.
But we do choose y'all.
We just, you know, shoot our shot in a different way.
We mentally choose.
Yeah.
We make eye contact about our eyes.
You better do it.
You want me?
No.
Wait, check this out.
Look in the monitor.
This is how women shoot their shot.
That's it.
And if you got it, you better not humble.
You better pick that shot out.
No, no, no.
Watch, watch.
Imagine I'm like walking past somebody.
This is how women shoot their shot.
That's how women shoot their shot.
I'll smack your ass.
I mean, if you made it also, but would you like it?
That's a crime.
Not if you like it.
It's consensual.
If you're already in the know that that's how women shoot their shot and they did that to you, better shoot your shot.
If you already know, then what the hell?
Right, but I'm saying, like, this idea of just oh, love will find you.
But we also do.
Also, do men like it when women take that like strong initiative to you didn't like it when I just said I'd smack you know like, do y'all like that?
I mean that it won't happen.
A woman, a woman, can approach a man in a still a feminine way.
I don't think this idea that there are some like I get I would honestly call them weirdo.
Guys like a guy who's like oh, it's like demasculating for a woman.
A woman can still like approach and it can still be done in like a very feminine sort of a way.
It doesn't have to be.
A woman can go up to a guy and be.
It doesn't have to be.
No, you should.
Hey, I like the way you're looking tonight.
Yeah, and look, what's the name, the vibe, the conversation, that's how you're gonna approach someone.
Yeah, look at her.
Hey, look her, I'm a weirdo.
Guys like it.
They're like, oh, I like.
And people with that, people fucking, I would have gave you my number see, I would have been like what the fuck is wrong with this bitch?
They don't know.
Men do have to be proactive.
Men have to be proactive like, if a guy never shoots his shot ever, he's probably gonna die a virgin sure, but a woman can never shoot her shot ever, and she could like, fuck a thousand dudes.
Okay, totally yeah.
Do you want to actually make an argument?
No, i'm done.
Yes bro, what am I gonna argue with you about?
This shit sucks.
Extension, what sucks huh, what sucks.
Dating oh dating yes, it's just all dog shit, we notice.
I mean, you should just maybe get rid of the bangs and I think things will improve.
I don't want to date anybody, I want my bangs.
You already took a good step.
You got rid of you.
Want more champagne.
You guys are already liquored up.
Liquored up?
What did he call me?
He said liquor.
I don't know, but I think it was racist.
What did you call her?
All right, he said, you wanted to do what to what you wanted, me to what he said.
Look it up.
Who's Drea?
Drea Drea Drea Jenny Jenny oh, my god, that's so.
Can't believe.
I just did that.
That's pathetic.
Uh sorry sorry, it's the alcohol talking.
Uh Drea, one of the wildest was running your.
Oh, we talked about this.
You ran your baby father over with your car when you found out he was cheating on you.
You were six months pregnant at the time.
Uh damn, imagine giving birth in jail or sorry, my bad nine, you're right, I messed that up, um, you wanted to talk about uh, the difference between vibes and actual compatibility, or actually I was like mentioning um like in the questions like a lot.
Well, at least I like a lot of the people I know like around my day and age.
They all like meet off social media, so I feel like that kills a lot.
I met my ex actually at an event an event I love that for, and that was so lovely.
Yeah, we had a great relationship shut up.
I feel like i've never met a man my age naturally ever like because I don't use dating apps anymore and like I really I don't have.
I've never gone to college, high school, like I lived in like a small town in the middle of nowhere, and then it was went online because of Covid, so I just knew my like boyfriend from my old high school, and then after that I really don't meet men like naturally at all.
Okay, it's just weird.
It's all social media.
You said the hot take is that men are never satisfied.
What about women, though?
Are women never satisfied?
I, um, some, some women, I guess, like generally speaking, like in this society nowadays.
Word, I'm not gonna really I think people are just never satisfied.
I think men are satisfied sometimes.
I have a question so much water and you don't have to pee.
I've peed a couple times.
I have a question for the panel.
Actually, I was under the table connected to my anger.
Oh my god.
What the hell?
That's crazy.
This pouch, if you had $100 in your pocket right now, if you had $100 in your pocket right now and you saw a dollar on the floor, would you pick it up?
$1.
What the fuck?
That's my lucky dog.
That's how people compare it.
That's frustrating that you're not.
That's serendipity right now.
That's how people compare it to you.
That frustrates me.
What?
Like, because women know that I like large labia, so they'll lie that they have a large labia.
Oh, labia fish.
Like catfished.
And it's very disappointing.
Why don't you check?
She likes you.
She likes you.
Check the labia.
Speaking of, Millie, we are getting to your notes.
Millie, you said, oh my God, Millie, this is ridiculous.
What?
You said you made your here, in your own words, you made your ex do what?
Oh.
I don't know.
What's the story, guys?
My ex was a piece of shit.
He was an asshole.
He kept cheating on me, and we broke up.
I thought we broke up.
So I was living with him.
Whatever.
Long story short.
I fucked one of my homies in the car.
I went to go eat.
My ex called me, said he wanted to talk.
I get to the house and he said he wanted to fuck.
I told him, let me shower first.
Let me shower first.
He said no.
He continued to eat my pussy.
After he ate my pussy, he fucked me.
I asked him if it tastes good.
He said, hell yeah.
So he is gay.
So, oh my God.
In your own words, you made your ex eat my pussy and fuck me after I fuck somebody else.
That's not the first time I heard that.
Sorry, I'm sorry.
That's not the first time I heard it.
It tastes good too.
That shit is fucking crazy.
Yikes.
He said he liked the way your other dude dictates.
Right.
He's gay.
Like, I don't know why.
Did you tell him that?
Did you ask me?
Yeah, I told him when we broke up and I finally cheated on me again because I got back with him.
After action.
I got back with him after that because I wasn't even going to tell him none of that.
But then he cheated on me again.
And so I was like, all right, you want to talk about doing shit.
You did this to me.
So now you get to know.
I mean, you got what's coming for you.
You got what's coming for you.
Yeah, you was cheating on me.
And I don't even know if he cheated on me and came back home to right.
He probably licked some bitch's pussy and came back and started kissing you right here.
Oh, you got me fucked up.
You got your lick back.
That's right.
Right.
All right.
You said your ex beat your ass.
Yeah.
Did we talk about that already, though?
No.
No, we'll skip that.
You said you got a concussion from a dick.
Yeah.
Here, say it in your own words.
No, I got a, yeah.
Just say it.
Say it in your own words.
I got a concussion from some big old dick.
Oh.
Like, so you smacked you with it?
I got smacked in the face.
Okay, so, yeah.
Well, yeah, basically, we were fucking, and I'm freaky.
I'm a freaky bitch.
And so I was like, I was ticking them off.
And then he pulled it.
He pulled it.
I pulled it out of my mouth and I like smacked it on my head.
But I didn't think it was going to be that heavy because it wasn't that heavy in my hand.
You smacked it on your head.
What?
It was ready to.
It's just like the bow thing.
It's just like the bow thing.
It's like, oh, it's just like the bow thing.
It's like grabbing his microphone and popping you in the head.
Yeah, like, it's like, he's like, you like that bitch?
And I'm like, yeah.
But it was a new one.
Smack it on your face and shit.
You feel me?
Like, smack it all over.
He was a thick.
You never smacked your shit on a female's head.
Oh, my God.
He never gave anyone like a cussion.
I never knew that.
No, you know, I just smacked my on the mata.
My mouth.
I have never had that happen before.
Really?
I want to try it now.
Yeah, you should.
Like, a magic wand.
Sorry, there's not.
I don't care how big the dick is.
There's no way a dick causes a concussion.
I ain't never seen no dick.
I swear you just ain't got that kind of big dick.
I swear.
You got it.
Because I was like, it was hitting me a lot of times.
It does not have enough mass.
Yes, it does.
Nah, there's some big, massful dicks out there.
There really is.
I know there's big dicks out there.
Maybe not yours.
That's how it's forget.
No, that's not.
I'm telling you, it was a big dick.
If you think about it, that should be like an extra arm.
So if you get a snapped by an arm, no, it's just so size of my man's dick.
Literally, he be like big light.
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I moved him.
And he was a little Mexican boy, so I didn't think it was going to hit me like that.
Like, and he was like, I want to say he's like 6'1, 6'2.
Big old dick.
I should have hit you in the temple.
You had a threesome with another girl that turned into a cuck situation.
Yeah.
A what?
Like two dicks?
One girl?
Threesome with another girl.
So I had a threesome.
It was me, the girl, and the guy.
And then he ended up just.
I talked about this on the House of Bads podcast, but basically my homegirl, I wanted to see her.
I missed her.
So we went out to Miami.
She flew me.
Her man flew me out to Miami and we ate, hung out, whatever, whatever.
It was cool.
Her man flew you out to Miami?
Yeah.
So you were joining a couple.
Yeah, well, I thought of it as like, oh, like, I was going to see my best friend because I haven't seen her in a minute.
So we went out to Miami and it was chill.
We were vibing.
Everything was cool.
And then we went back to the hotel.
And I was like, oh, I'm going to go back to my hotel because he paid for the hotels too.
He's like, oh, just come with us.
And I was like, oh, I might get to fuck my best friend finally, you know?
Oh, so you was plotting on that pussy.
I've been.
So we went and then.
It was pending.
Yeah, it was pending.
But we went.
I was eating her pussy and I was fucking on her.
And then he was watching.
And then he asked me to do something pretty crazy.
And I did it.
And I felt like shit.
What was it?
I talked about this on our podcast, The House of Bads, but I don't know if.
Oh, you're trying to wreck.
You're trying to direct people to see what it was.
Yeah, you might want to look on that.
That's crazy.
Because I haven't talked about it since.
I'm not going to lie.
I haven't talked about it since because they were making me feel weird about it.
But yeah, I.
This is safe space.
Safe space here.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
She asked.
Okay, he asked her to ask me and she asked me and I did it.
I took I shot on her chest.
Shot?
Isn't it?
Isn't there a turn?
Oh my gosh.
There's a crazy amount of violence.
So Dubai Potty.
Something like that.
There's something like that.
It was a federal big shit or like a diet.
Did you get paid for this?
Did you get paid for this though?
I did it for her.
I did it for her.
She was like, she was a finish on her.
No, I'm validating you, bro.
Look, I exist out there.
I did it for her, but I didn't exist.
I got off right away.
I'm getting fucking paid.
Okay, look, look, I got off right away after it happened, and it was only a little dingleberry.
And I got off right after it happened.
Little her kiss.
I got her to kiss.
I like went to the hotel.
You know damn well you're not sitting on nobody's chest.
No, I'm not because I can't poop on command.
I had to wait there for a minute.
It wasn't like it was like on point.
I'm like, no, it was only a little bit.
No, yeah, it was just a little bit because I was sharp.
Like, you know, you know, I went back in.
And then I went back to my hotel.
I fell asleep.
I didn't see them for two days because I just didn't feel right.
And then I went back home.
And then.
Was that it?
No, when I went back home.
Oh, my.
When I went back home, she had to ask me if I was okay from the whole experience and whatever.
I told her, yeah, like we're good.
Like, it's not something I would want to do again, but like, you know, we're good.
And then she sent me some money, Sonia.
Oh, how much was that?
You tried something, you got a little cash.
How much money, though?
Because, you know, they'll take you out of state and they'll pay you like thousands of dollars.
Dubai potty.
That's your people.
Exactly.
There's people out there that will pay hella money.
Young on the battlefield, girl.
You better take your shitty booty.
Girl.
Girl, go ahead.
Girl, you better take your shitty booty ass to Dubai.
Get that payful.
I might have to.
Shit.
Okay, so.
All right, I'm trying to just like rush through as just because, you know, we're in the tail end here of the show.
I'm just trying to blast through everything as quick as possible.
I want to try to get through everybody's notes.
There's not too much left.
You had a guy moan in your ear like a woman.
That's my ex-boyfriend.
Demonstrate.
I don't need a fucking fucking story.
That's true.
Fuck.
I love you.
That sounds like fucking Elmo.
Actually, better sound like a terrible reinaction.
Go ahead.
I love it.
I like when guys went.
Fuck.
Guys, let me try to move through these quick if possible.
Yeah, so I mean, maybe it sounded weird.
It's weird for the guy or whatever, but I think it's, don't women not like it if the guy's completely silent?
That's also a term.
I like when they moan.
It's weird.
Like, I like it.
It's not like that.
Yes, but there's the difference between like a sexy moan.
Sure, that's true.
That's fair.
That's fair.
Don't moan.
Yeah, don't moan like a little bitch.
Pharaoh single mom, not well trained.
What do you mean by that?
That's you describe yourself as that?
What did you say?
Oh, that's my Instagram.
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Yeah.
Yeah, I'm a Pharaoh single mom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm Pharaoh.
I'm outside.
I'm outside.
I'm out here.
Streets.
I'm running.
I'm not walking.
I'm running.
I'm actually on the sidewalk too.
Esther, you said you don't date a lot, but you've definitely had a few wild experiences.
What's like the number one most wild?
I've had some crazy.
I know.
Okay, so one guy.
I'm sorry if you can.
Like just the bare belly.
One guy that I used to date, he was like also kind of my sugar daddy, but he was my boyfriend.
He was the same age as me.
But anyways, he's passed away.
So R.A.P. But he took me on a date, like at this crazy place at this billionaire's house that was his neighbor.
The billionaire was trying to get at me.
And then he would have like these parties, blah, Thank God I was dating this guy, so I couldn't go for the billionaire dude.
And that dude ended up getting arrested.
But yeah, it was crazy.
Did he?
You talking about did he?
Okay.
No, but similar.
Similar vibes.
Yeah, he's crazy.
I didn't get Snatch.
You said you think you could be considered slightly cutthroat to men because you cut it off right as the BS begins.
Yeah.
Okay, nothing to add to that.
You wrote a book.
Oh, yeah.
I wrote, well, it's not like a super long book.
Well, it's a short book.
It's about manifestation.
And healing, money, success.
Yeah.
Can I ask you a question?
If my arm gets chopped off, can I manifest it and grow back?
We'll see.
Read my book.
Just kidding.
Did you actually claim that you can?
But there's some good methods in there.
There's some really good methods.
I don't know if it could regenerate your arm, though.
But do you believe, like, so through manifestation you can heal?
Like physical ailments, possibly, yeah.
Yeah, what about cancer?
I don't know.
Should there's some instruments?
Should children who have cancer should they manifest or should they take chemo?
They should pray, they should take chemo, they should pray, they should manifest.
Everybody should pray over them.
I think that there's power and energy, so power and energy for sure.
There's like energy is the real existent thing.
I don't know, okay, you know, if it could heal some crazy things, but I know when you put it towards a good source, I'm not going to linger on it long, but I think manifestation is bullshit and fake news.
Nah, that's just real.
No, I get it.
I get it.
You probably ain't manifest right because it's not book.
Yeah, you probably ain't manifest right.
Because in the back of your head, you're doubting it.
No, I just believe that I think, look, for some people, luck is involved in certain things.
But my philosophy is you don't sit around and think positive thoughts and hope that the universe delivers.
Well, obviously, you have to take action.
Yeah.
You don't sit around hoping the universe delivers good things to you.
You work hard, you have a purpose, you try to be smart, you try to be intelligent, you take steps towards goals.
Not I'm gonna sit back and manifest.
I'm gonna send it to you for free.
That's part of manifestation.
I'll pee on it probably.
That's okay.
Part of manifestation, though, is taking the step forward to still do the things you have to do, but still there's steps behind it that I talk about in my book that is why manifestation is possibly not working.
The other thing I don't like about manifestation is it makes it people who work hard downplays hard work.
It downplays like oh a lot of successful people say they use it actually because even if it doesn't physically bring things into your reality, let's say you don't believe in the magic aspect of it, it's bringing things like not magic, but you know what I mean?
Like the supernatural of it.
It's bringing your mind into a space that is going to be more accepting of things that you can do for anyone to fall in love with you.
I don't know.
Can you manifest love?
I think you can.
Can you pick a particular person?
I think you could manifest things for yourself.
You might try as far as growing specific person, but it's not actually who is the best for you.
So you might actually manifest in somebody even better than you imagined.
But could you manifest a specific person falling in love with you?
You could probably do it, but when you mess with people's free will, that's when things get weird.
So I wouldn't do that.
I wouldn't do that.
Yeah, you'll attract very dark things.
Yeah, good point.
Okay.
Stella, let's see here.
We talked about you being a sugar mommy, you being a virgin, you being on OF, you waiting for marriage.
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You, I think actually, we did all your notes.
I think so.
Scarlet was the no-show.
We have there's nothing left for me here, which is you.
Do you have a kid?
Oh, it's like a niece.
I see.
That's my little brother.
Lobro.
Okay.
You're 22, you're a stripper.
You're a Christian.
You've been single for four years, independent since you're 18.
Oh, Mary, we do have a video from her.
I'm curious what happened leading up to this video where you are.
Well, I'll just let the video speak for itself.
I'm just curious.
You have it, Mary.
Yeah, play it.
I'm just an emo child.
What can I say?
That's hot.
That was me right before going to sleep.
That's you with all your piercings before.
What happened?
It looked like you were like crying or something.
No, that's just my face.
You're tired.
You remind me a lot of my niece.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
So relevant.
Who here is on SSRIs?
All right.
I used to antidepressants.
Anybody?
No?
Oh, okay.
Let me scroll up to the top here.
I think we have maybe one more person.
We did everything from Jocelyn.
We did hers.
Ah, you.
Okay.
You said we won't be able to hit everything, but dating after a toxic relationship plus wild first dates, why don't you tell us your wildest first date?
Me?
Yeah.
I'm boring if you haven't noticed.
So you said you had wild first dates.
I never said I had a wild first date.
I said I had a wild ex.
Yes, I have a wild ex that I have children with.
He's wild, but I don't have a wild first date.
No, I don't.
Oh, hold on.
Let me just double-check this.
One sec, one sec, one sec, one sec.
Wait.
You sure?
I'm pretty sure.
You didn't write that.
Sorry.
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Yeah, look, here.
Yes, dating after toxic relationship plus wild first dates.
Do I have a wild first dates?
Okay, I'll skip then.
You dating as a single mom?
Quick thoughts on that?
Definitely either find somebody who's understanding, like that has, you know, a kid, or, you know, it just, it all depends on how you vibe with that person, I guess.
It wasn't, you know, thankfully, grateful.
Like, thankfully, it was not difficult, super difficult for me.
You said you believe red pill or black pill ideology when it comes to dating ideals is more damaging than it is positive.
And if anything, discourages men to date women as the average man can't obtain a 19 or 18-year-old 10-10 virgin.
Yes, I agree with that.
I think that overall, you know, there are some aspects of this message that can be positive for a man, like I guess, a positive male space, quote unquote, working, you know, having respect for yourself as a man and everything.
But overall, sometimes the message is sort of missing.
I think that it's about growing together with somebody, finding somebody that is your equal and being able to work with them and not always saying that we're cooked.
You know, we have to all ascend together and work together.
And yeah, I mean, I actually like a lot of the commentators in this space, actually.
So, but sometimes the message can kind of get lost.
But I think that women need to hear certain things and men need to hear certain things.
And after listening to everything that you were saying tonight, I found that I agreed with you on a lot of things.
But yeah.
Okay, you said the whole ideology is very misleading and seems more like a cash grab.
Are you talking about, like, are you talking about me, talking about other people?
I'm not offended if you are, by the way.
No, not at all.
I think sometimes it can be.
I think for like, you know, like the sake of clip farming and, you know, trying to get that, you know, rage bait going.
So wait, you are talking about me.
Are you talking about me?
Like, don't pull your punches.
Like, you're here.
Like, you can talk to me.
I don't remember.
No.
I mean, this is your space.
You know, I don't know how badly I want to come into it.
I mean, you have a huge fan base.
I'm just a regular person, you know.
But if you disagree, if there's things you disagree on, I'm not.
Don't be shy.
Yeah, I know.
Don't be shy.
Voice it, girl.
This is your opportunity.
Voice it.
Yeah.
Like, don't say that shit.
Screw him.
Bugwing shows.
Yeah, tell him all.
No, like I said, I think that overall, you know, the space can be damaging.
Yes, it can be with some of the messages that you have.
Such as?
Such as stating that men are putting in more of an effort all the time, kind of speaking more from like a personal experience sometimes.
I don't know if it is personal experience or if you're just saying it just, like I said, just to kind of get things going.
So, okay, men putting more effort in.
Do you think that's incorrect?
Do you think women put in more effort?
I think that women.
It depends.
It depends on the person.
It depends.
Okay, but how would that be damaging?
Well, so when I'm talking about damaging, the message can be damaging of, hey, men, you need to make X amount of money and then become stable and then be able to select somebody because I think that it's about growing together, having commonalities.
I think that people will probably be more successful long term if they're dating at like a smaller age gap, as opposed to, you know, having that ideology of you're going to build this wealth, you're going to have all this money, you're going to accumulate all this power, and then you're going to be able to have, you know, this woman with this giant age gap, and everything's going to be great, everything's going to be fine, and she's just going to love you just for who you are.
It's just, it doesn't make sense.
There's just no commonalities.
And I think that, you know, the idea of people, of women, you know, obviously women being more kind of coming back to like not being subservient necessarily, but I think that men need to be not as I don't know.
i'm sorry i lost my train of thought not that men need to are you saying women uh the expectation that women be more subservient uh submissive whatever uh that men i think that that's helpful but i also think that um there's kind of like there's like a war being waged right now between genders and i think that it's more damaging than it is good i agree Well, yeah, but that war was started by feminists.
Not necessarily.
What do you mean, not necessarily?
Well, I mean, if you look back historically, if you look at like when feminisms kind of like came in too, a lot of men were in power, you know.
Do you want men in power?
I think in certain areas, men are useful to be in power.
Yes.
Yes.
And I think in other areas, women in power are useful.
I think, like I said, it's synergistic.
It's energetic.
So, I mean, you do realize, though, we're sort of getting into an apex fallacy.
99% of men had no power.
So there were some men at the very top.
I would say it has more to do with class, wealth, power, like existing power than it has to do necessarily with gender.
But I don't understand.
So the gender war was started by men?
I wouldn't want to say that, but I'm saying that I think that men...
Do you agree?
No, I just think she's doing fucking great.
Go ahead, continue your point.
I think that men were historically in power and that there was...
Well, small proportions of men were in power.
Let's caveat that.
So historically, men have been in power and there have been a small percentage of men, but okay.
Okay.
Well, you'd agree that 100% of them, like, the majority of men did not have power.
I think it's like your like sports comparison where you took like a very few amount of men in the whole world who play sports and you took that and you used it to be like all men.
But I understand what you're saying.
How would that again?
Completely incoherent.
If anything, the example I provided where it wasn't even comparing like for like, it was comparing high school boys to elite female Olympians.
The real comparison, which would be even more damning, would be male Olympians versus female Olympians.
Women aren't even, I don't understand.
Oh, you're cherry-picking, Brian.
No, I'm actually, we're basically giving women a, what's the word for it?
We are giving women a, what's the term where you give that, like in golf where you get a handicap.
You're literally giving women a handicap.
If you, we did the comparison of high school boys to Olympic Olympians.
I guess we're just taking like small scales and you're taking like our top leadership.
But I guess in general, I think she's talking more in a broad sense and even maybe in CEO positions and like going down to like smaller scales other than government.
Yeah, but that's a really small proportion of men that do have the CEO jobs out of all the jobs that are out there.
While it is true that there are more like male CEOs, more males who have like high prestige jobs, this is kind of ignoring the fact that men also occupy like the 99%, like the worst jobs, 99% of those jobs are men.
There's a workplace fatality gap.
There's a workplace injury gap.
Men are more likely to be injured on the job.
They're more likely to die on the job.
They're more likely to do dirty, dangerous work that women are just either physically incapable of doing or that they are, they don't have an interest in doing.
Men occupy typically.
You know what, Mary?
Can you pull up my personal ex?
We're going to scroll down.
How many exes?
This is the same Asian girl.
How many exes you have?
Just the AI girl.
I'm talking about like Twitter.
I wanted to know it as like a statistical thing just to clear things up.
But I personally don't mind men taking on the hands-on jobs.
And I don't mind women taking on the more dainty jobs.
That's just me personally.
So I have no issues with that.
Like, I see your view there.
understand so men your position is that uh men started the gender war because men no i don't i I did not state that.
That was the topic at hand.
And then you brought up.
I'm just here to talk about.
I just wanted to mention, like, just statistic-wise, I thought maybe there could be clarification on your case study because I think there is a bigger, you're like really categorizing.
I just wanted to broaden it just for the conversation.
Okay.
I don't think men started the gender war.
I think it's kind of like a mutual.
But I do think men should be more manly nowadays.
I think that we've gone into.
What should women be?
Should they be sex workers?
That's a pretty small part.
I think it's okay to be.
You're not being a lady.
Being a sex worker is not being a lady.
I act like a lady in every aspect of my life.
You're not a fan of a lady.
You're not a lady.
That's your opinion.
It's not my opinion.
It's fact.
There you go.
You are not.
I'm God.
I'm a big dog.
All right, fucking weirdo.
Statistically, how many girls are waiting until marriage and go home early and cook and clean?
Here, how can I?
I'm wondering what would be sort of the mirror opposite here.
Okay, so the guy, he's a provider.
He's a protector, but he sells his dick.
Shut up.
They do that?
Yeah, my homie does that.
I don't want anybody complaining about how late we're going.
Like, you guys have interrupted me a hundred times tonight.
You guys quip.
You fucking talk about all this shit.
We're in the tail end here.
Let me try to move things along a little bit.
Okay, so where was I?
This is why we tell you guys not to like interrupt.
Maybe the mirror image for a guy would be he provides, he protects, but he's like super feminine.
Would you be cool with that?
Oh my God, my friend.
I don't think those could co-align.
You're contradicting yourself.
How would it be contradictory?
His demeanor could be very feminine.
You might even suspect he's gay, but let's just assume he's a fan.
Oh my God, that may work.
That don't work.
Yeah, for me, it does.
I think it just contradicts itself because I wouldn't see that as a man.
I just wouldn't find that as a provider.
What does it mean to be a lady?
Like, if you can be a sex worker and a lady, so you can go together.
I acknowledge that you can have the other traits of being a lady.
So you can be.
But there seems to be this glaring like red flag where it's basically like, pay attention to this.
Like this in and of itself is a disqualifying thing from being categorized or labeled as a lady.
It's like, yeah, maybe you're making it up, making up for it in these other ways.
But let's see.
You post your butthole, you post your pussy, you do dick ratings.
Like this is not becoming, that's not becoming behavior of a woman.
It's not virtuous.
It's not Christian.
It's not trad.
It's not any of that stuff that you claim you are.
Okay.
I see your view.
I still consider myself a traditional girl because I follow all those values in my daily life.
You still consider yourself.
I mean, we already went over this a million times.
I don't know how else to say it.
I'm trying to think of like a smoking.
You don't have to change my opinion.
We can just end on like, hey, you're cool.
I'm cool.
Different views.
I know myself better than you know me, and that's okay.
I suppose, but in any case, it's just completely incompatible with trad or Christianity.
I mean, it would be like, I mean, I don't know.
Actually, at this point, I don't even know how else to explain it.
Do you want to continue on with your points?
I'm fine.
I think I'm good.
Okay, well, I mean, I would have liked to have heard a little more in terms of the you think that essentially, look, you're basically being a coward here at this point.
You wanted to come on and confront me.
You said.
I never said I wanted to confront you.
What did I say?
I wanted to confront you.
I'm not being honest with you.
The whole ideology is very misleading.
I could be nervous.
I could be.
I've never done this.
Oh my God, this is your one opportunity.
You're on the podcast now.
Let's just go through the disagreements.
Sure.
You said you believe red pill or black pill ideology when it comes to dating ideals.
You said you've said I've said certain things throughout the show that you maybe disagree with, some you agree with.
You said it's misleading.
So what exactly about what I'm espousing is misleading?
I think that you're conflating personal experiences to what really the kind of interchanging of a relationship is with a man and a woman, like speaking from like a heterosexual lens.
Are you talking about my own experiences with dating?
Yes, it seems that sometimes when you kind of get into your, you know, like rants, it sounds like it's incorrect.
It's personal.
Well, I don't see how that would be relevant, but tell me what is incorrect about what I'm saying.
That what are you saying that maybe could be the way that you're framing it?
I think the way you're framing it.
It could be framed in a much more like positive way where women and men would want to get together and actually listen as opposed to fighting with each other.
And, you know, these men coming on here saying, you know, we're whores and, you know, we're ugly and all those things.
Well, I mean, they seem like angry men.
So the super chatters, I'm not here to defend what people are saying in the super chats.
I can defend what I say, though.
So tell me what I say that you think is objectionable.
In this particular podcast, like what we've gone through, what have you said.
Or it could be something you saw in a different episode or a clip.
I'm happy to explore anything I said tonight or elsewhere.
Messaging Misconceptions00:17:03
What are you against that he's mentioned so far?
Yeah.
Just think about it.
I've talked a lot tonight.
What do you disagree with?
There's got to be something object to.
Like I said, it's kind of more of the mess.
It's more of like the way that the messaging is being wrapped.
So tone police.
I mean, that's incredibly important.
Do you feel like he's devaluing women in a certain way?
Yeah, I mean, yeah, you could say that.
I think he's possibly because I'm sure that you're, you know, your fan base is younger.
They might be.
Actually, that's not true.
Okay.
The majority of my audience is like 25 to like 44.
Okay, so men are women.
Mainly men are women.
Mainly men, but actually like women in the chat.
Like there's a lot of women who watch the show.
Yeah, I've seen it.
There's been a few.
Yeah, there's women.
Send in some fucking super chats, women.
Prove that you're real.
Okay, do you want to continue with like what else, I guess?
What do you disagree with?
Like I said, the messaging of it all could be a little more difficult.
And that's super vague, but the messaging of it all.
So that's a tone police.
It's your podcast.
It's the way you make money.
I mean, you're doing very well.
So I mean, I mean, I'm just my opinion.
Brian, you believe this.
You said this.
I disagree with that.
I mean, it's very, you know, the message.
I have an issue with the messaging.
What messaging in particular?
I'm looking for specificity.
But also, I would just say this idea that we're going to, we're going to win the culture, at least if I'm going to convince people of my worldview, and this applies to Christians too.
Oh, we're just going to, we're going to be really nice to everybody, and that's going to win people over to our side.
No.
No.
You need to completely demolish the opposing worldview, and then maybe you can build up a new worldview.
But this empathy, this, let's just be, let's just all be nice.
It's like, no, you have to absolutely crush the opposing worldview.
That's the only way you're going to do it.
You're not going to win hearts and minds by just, let's just do, let's just be really nice and freaking out.
No, I'm not saying that.
Okay, so what's your objection?
Like, it just being built around anger and fear-mongering.
What is the knowledge?
But what's specifically, what's specifically, what is the fear-mongering that I am doing?
Okay, well, you're an hour late, so I don't know what to tell you.
We started late because everyone was late.
I mean, do you want an energy drink?
I'm fine.
Okay, so give me, I'm not looking for like a bullet, a ton of things.
I'm just looking, even just give me one thing.
What is the fear-mongering that I'm doing?
What am I fear-mongering on?
That's just a small example.
I mean, the fear-mongering of, you know, not being able to find a partner in time to have kids if you're messing around and all that.
I don't think that that's necessarily accurate.
Wait, you mean when I talked about how women do have to a degree a biological clock?
I think men and women do as well.
Men and women both have that responsibility because, like you said, if you want to be a present father, you can't just be this aging man, you know.
You're going to have to be present.
So, I think they're both that's how's that fear-mongering, though?
Well, fear-mongering women, you know, saying, like, hey, like, you know, you need to settle down ASAP, you need to have, you know, X amount of kids and everything.
I mean, I think it also women say that, but that's the general red pill mindset, right?
Well, I mean, it's not just, it's not just like conjecture, it's not just opinion.
Women do have a limited fertility window.
After 25, fertility starts decreasing.
I already granted, though, women can get pregnant in their late 30s and their 40s, but like ideally for women, the best time to get pregnant and start a family and have kids is going to be, I mean, you can do it on the younger side, but like realistically in the current cultural, social, zeitgeist, like mid-20s to mid-30, like mid-30s, that's probably the ideal age range, 25 to 35 for women to get married, have a family, start having kids.
Can women have children later?
Yes, but in terms of like what's optimal, I think that that's what's optimal.
And it's fertility does, it's not just red pill bullshit.
You can look at like you can look at studies done on female, women's fertility.
It decreases over time.
Do you dispute that?
No, no, I don't.
I don't.
So why would it be fear-mongering then?
If I'm just essentially, it could possibly, you know, give the wrong, like I said, the wrong message to some kind of to women that may be susceptible to being influenced that way.
I actually think it's wait, hold on.
I think it's actually worse to put out messaging to society, no women, be career boss babes, wait until you're 35 to have kids.
I think, even if you have objections to my message, I think my message is superior, women, you should have kids.
You should try to lock down a guy in your early to mid 20s.
Try to have kids starting around 25, sometime between 25 to 30, start having kids.
Then I think that's a better message than no career first.
Women, focus on your career and let's be anti-natalist, and that's way worse messaging than whatever I'm proposing.
Why huh, why is it a worse message to send out to, I mean, assuming women?
Look, some women are not called to being mothers.
That's okay.
It's not everybody wants to be a mom or is called for that.
But uh yeah, I think delaying family, delaying pregnancy, delaying children until you're like early mid, late 30s is like Pretty much.
But some women want to focus on their career path first and then invite the idea of having children, possibly maybe in their 30s.
And if they can't conceive, then they can't.
Oh, fucking will.
But I'm saying like basically have a population collapse.
And what is what is wrong with women making that decision for themselves, though, that they want to focus on their career first in their 20s and then maybe get pregnant later in their 30s.
And some people want to focus on their marriage too.
A lot of people jump into it, get pregnant, have kids.
I mean, I know I did it.
So a lot of people think that they're taking the right steps.
And even when you take the right steps, it doesn't end up working anyway.
So I definitely think that if I could tell my daughter something, it would definitely be to wait until you are ready, whether it be at 25, 35, 45, wait until you're ready.
Geriatric pregnancy.
Yeah, I mean.
They still get pregnant.
My cousin got pregnant.
Yeah, that's way harder the chance of you getting pregnant.
And you can adopt, too.
If you can't get pregnant, adopt.
Simple as that.
If a woman wants kids, and then she's basically been fed propaganda her entire life.
No, be a boss babe.
Go to college.
Focus on your career.
Chase money.
Chase money.
Chase material.
Chase material.
And then she's 35 and she's like, ooh.
Yeah, a lot of women follow that.
Unless.
Look, women can still find, you know, can still work at that age.
But actually, I saw a study recently.
If a woman has not had a child by 30, ha ha ha, real funny, Jocelyn.
If a woman has not had a, I think it's, is it married or have children?
If a woman has not had a child by 30, the likelihood of ever having a child is like just fucking tanks.
I got eight more years and I'm good.
Thank you for that contribution.
Yeah, no.
So it's not a trap.
Yes, I understand it's a trap.
That's what you want to do.
I understand.
I mean, I'm not income, no kids.
Who ready?
Yeah, you can be.
All right, great.
I mean, ultimately, though, if you are a woman and you do want a family and you do want to have kids, I think, look, I'm not saying you have to complete, you can still go to college.
You can still be like, eh, well, I don't know if I want to go that far.
I mean, also just because I think for a lot of people, college is a bit of a scam.
But I do think that you can be intentional about both in the sense that, okay, well, I'm going to go to college, but maybe I'll try to find a guy in college.
And, you know, you can, I don't think it's a good idea to tell women, put off family and children into your 30s.
That's, I think that that's bad.
I think that's bad.
But why?
You're not saying why.
Why giving birth?
You're making a statement, but you're not giving a reason.
Sure, I'll give a couple of reasons.
Well, one, once you've delayed family and pregnancy at that point, typically I think, well, in terms of maximizing your partner as a woman, women have the most leverage when they're younger.
So when I say younger, I mean between the age of, say, 20, 25, that's when a woman has the most leverage to find the best man.
As you start getting into your 30s and older, it becomes a lot more.
Okay, that's one reason you've stated multiple times.
That's like one reason that everyone knows.
Yeah, sure.
Fertility.
So women's fertility decline.
So some women can find that it becomes very chance of miscarriage is higher.
A lot of women know that already.
Let's figure out something else.
I don't, that is what you were asking me for reasons.
I gave you a reason.
That's one.
That everyone is already aware of that reason.
Everyone is already aware of that reason.
So give us another reason that you think women are probably not aware of that.
That's not true.
There's plenty of women who are not aware of like the fact they're most women are aware as when they get older.
There's a less likely chance of them getting pregnant.
Most women know that.
I mean, I don't see why I need to list like a dozen reasons.
I think I'm not asking you to list a dozen reasons.
I'm asking you to list more reasons than that one.
Why I've already, because a lot of women already know that.
I already gave you three.
I mean, perhaps the final one would be: typically, I'm not saying, hey, at 18, go get pregnant.
Although, assuming you're with the right guy, I don't actually have a problem with it.
But I do think that if you have children on the earlier side, you will have the most.
That's probably like the healthiest for the kid.
It's healthiest for the baby.
You're, you know, also for the man, too.
It's not quite as pronounced, but the sperm quality is better when men are a bit younger.
It declines pretty slowly, so it's not.
I mean, as far as like lifestyle-wise, I mean, as far as lifestyle-wise, I understand you saying, like, as you get older, you know, your bones are probably going to hurt.
You probably won't be able to play with your child as much.
I understand that.
I've given you seven reasons at this point.
You have not given us seven reasons.
You gave us three, pretty much three reasons.
Well, you don't.
Why would it need to be?
Why would I need to give you 10 reasons for it to be pregnant?
Because you're telling us that women shouldn't be getting pregnant in their 30s.
They should be focusing on getting possibly focusing on getting pregnant during their 20s because they're more likely to get pregnant in their 20s.
But why are you so against women getting pregnant, possibly in their 30s or over?
Why is that an issue?
I'm against it.
I'm just saying what is most optimal.
I'm having a conversation on what's most optimal for the sake of the children.
Okay, because I was just feeling like you were super against women getting pregnant in their 30s or 40s.
Okay, so that is how I was.
I already acknowledged that.
This is prime time.
Prime time is in your mid-20s.
But if it worked out like that, cool.
If it didn't work out like that, then you're going to get pregnant later.
Yeah.
Like, prime time is, yeah, you, your oven's hot during this time.
Pretty sure it's mostly about money.
Like, most young people, like girls in their 20s and even guys, like we don't got the money to be like having a kid.
Like, I've literally told like my family that I probably won't have kids because I would prefer to be a young mother and I'm already like kind of passed that window.
So I think I'm okay with just when I find my partner, we you know, double income, travel the world together.
I'm okay with that because I don't want to be like a parent that has my kid when I'm like 30, 40, and then I'm trying to raise them when I'm like 50.
And like that's too much.
Yeah, you also just take care of your health.
Take care of your health.
Right.
You could be 50, 60, healthy as fuck and raising somebody.
From topics, you also, for you, ageism, you mentioned something about ageism.
What's that?
I think what I had mentioned is that kind of some of the messaging here is that as women get older, they essentially are less attractive or expire, don't have as many opportunities.
And so I find that messaging to be.
I've never said expire.
Well, like I said, you hear that.
It's not just my opinion.
It's just biological reality that as women age, fertility goes down.
And yes, they've done studies on this in terms of assessment of what men find most attractive.
Yes, as women age, men view them as less physically attractive.
That's not to say that women in their 30s and 40s can't be attractive.
That's not, but generally, yes, women who are younger in their early to mid-20s, that's when women are deemed most physically attractive.
Do you dispute this?
Do you think women are most attractive at 45 or 25?
Into the mic, please.
Depends on how well you take care of yourself.
I'm sorry, but unless a woman was like a meth addict and like obese at 25, there's assuming the physical health is the same at 25 and 45, the weight is the same.
Do you genuinely believe that women are more attractive at 45 versus 25?
Well, men date down, women date up.
How would that be relevant, but okay?
It's just well, yes.
Women tend to go for older guys.
Men go for younger guys.
Do you have a response though?
Men go for younger guys.
Sorry, misspones.
I mean, I think everybody, you know, like that youthful attraction is obviously something that's appreciated by both genders.
So I think that as you get older, you know, you have different obligations, you know, different criteria, different priorities when it comes to dating.
So okay.
But I mean, when it comes to ageism, I don't think it's like ageism to say that like, and I, by the way, I make this claim for men too.
There's a bit of a difference, a little difference between men and women.
But yeah, I think typically when it comes to physical attractiveness, people generally across the board are more attractive when they're younger.
Like, for example, I'll just go to an extreme example.
Would you agree that between the ages of 20 and 30 for both men and women, they're going to be more physically attractive than when they're 70?
Well, sure, but that's quite a big age gap.
Well, I'm not talking about an age gap relationship.
I'm talking about like for both of them.
And like if aging is a, is like a gradual decline, like aging, I don't think is, okay, like 20, then you like down at 30, up at 40, down at 50.
I think it's like most people, you know, for men, it can vary a little bit, but I think you're like, okay, you're going to peak at 20, and then there's going to be a gradual decline.
Yeah, it doesn't take a rocket science to know that.
I'm going up or decaying.
Yes.
I mean, like, I'm going up right now.
I mean, you could, I believe in aging gracefully, and then obviously attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder.
And you could, you could think, oh, yeah, this, the old lady's attractive because she has wisdom and a good heart.
We're talking younger.
Yeah, but if we're talking about physical looks, it's just a no-brainer.
Like, obviously, younger people are more attractive.
Isn't Cher dating, like, a 24-year-old and she's like...
Madonna's dating somebody younger.
So look, these age gaps go in different directions.
But ultimately, look, yeah, as you get older, you become less attractive.
I don't think that's ageism.
I just think that's biological reality.
There's a reason.
Look, you women, when you put on makeup, especially, oh my God, bro, let me fucking get through it without the interruptions.
You women, you put on makeup, you get plastic surgery.
When you put on makeup, do you put wrinkles on your face or do you hide wrinkles?
When you put on makeup, do you hide blemishes or do you create fake blemishes?
Like, because you would agree that there's makeup, that you could do like movie makeup to make yourself look older.
Women are not doing movie makeup to make themselves look older.
In fact, any women here who are like, well, it's ageism, Brian.
Women are better looking when they're 40 versus when they're 20.
Women's Dating Value Over Time00:15:10
I'm willing to pay for your plastic.
I'll pay plastic surgery to age you.
I'll pay for your plastic surgery to make you look older.
I'll pay for a professional makeup artist to follow you around for a year and make you look old.
None of you take that fucking deal.
None of you.
If I could wave a magic wand, if I could make a wave a magic wand and let's say you don't die any sooner.
Let's say you don't die like any younger.
Your health is totally the same, but with this magic wand, I can, physically, your outward appearance, I could age you 10, 20 years.
Who takes it?
Who takes the deal?
Like Benjamin Button?
No, not like Benjamin.
I don't want that shit.
I'm not taking that deal, bro.
Everybody wants the fountain of youth.
Right.
So it's like, it's like the reality is if it was women were more attractive as they age, they wouldn't cover up wrinkles.
They wouldn't cover up blemishes.
They wouldn't get Botox.
They wouldn't wear makeup to make them more youthful.
They wouldn't, yes, exactly.
They wouldn't get this plastic surgery.
It's not about ageism.
It's not about women expiring.
There's plenty of women in their 30s and 40s who are attractive women.
It's about accepting biological reality that, yes, as you age.
By the way, men too.
I was a fucking stud when I was 20.
Now I'm a fat, tubby.
I'm fucking.
He went from stud to Chud.
I got fucking wrinkles and all this shit.
My skin's all fucked up.
I think we're getting hotter.
I was a fucking, hey, I was a bit of a stud.
A bit of a stud.
I'm not going to.
Can we see a picture?
Can we evaluate this?
Natalia, thank you for the gifted 20.
Mary, if you can pull that up really quick, a gifted.
I mean, I think I'm getting hotter because I used to be ugly in high school.
No, me too.
I'm getting fired now.
I agree.
I'm going to blast through this.
Natalia, thank you for the gifted 20.
Can you pull that up, Mary?
The gifted 20.
No, no, no, not the IG, the gifted 20.
Thank you, Natalia.
Okay, so you disagree that women lose value with age?
Me?
Yeah, you.
This is your notes.
We're doing your notes.
Can you speak into the mic, please?
Yes, I do.
I don't think anybody is going to be losing value like that.
But if you're looking at it from the standpoint that you are, then you could make that argument.
But we have to clarify our terms.
When you refer to value, and we sort of talked about this value thing earlier, or we, you, I refer to value.
I assume you mean in the intended context, which is dating value, not your value as a human being, intrinsic value.
Are we talking about the same thing?
I don't think your dating value decreases if you're going to be dating somebody in your pool.
No.
But if you're trying to chase somebody that's going to be going for younger, like a younger woman, then I mean, yeah, they're not going to be interested in you.
It's about finding somebody who's interested in you as well.
Okay, so just to be clear, though, we're not talking about intrinsic value, moral value, human value.
We're talking about your value on the dating marketplace.
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
So a 22-year-old woman has equal moral value as a 42-year-old woman.
So again, not talking about intrinsic.
We're talking about dating value.
It is the case that younger women have more dating value than older women.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Yeah.
22-year-olds are way hotter than me.
Yeah.
What?
I'm not even saying that.
Can you be good faith here?
Your position, you're not being good faith.
Your position is that you disagree that women lose value with age.
So can I ask you a question?
For most men, do you think most men would rather date a 50-year-old woman or a 20-year-old woman?
A 20-year-old.
And are you just saying that to agree with me, or do you actually disagree with me?
No.
Yeah, 20-year-old.
Yeah.
It depends if they got a kid.
But I'm a bit confused.
Your position is women don't lose value, dating value, as they age.
It just depends.
It depends if you're dating somebody seriously.
I mean, like a serious guy is not, you know, it's like you're going to be looking for everything.
You're not just going to be like, is she 20?
Okay, like, I'm going to date her.
Like, you know, you're going to be looking for a multitude of things.
Like, if it's just for a, you know, just to date, you know, most likely somebody's going to be, you know, attracted to that.
But if it's coming from something that's more serious, then I think that there's more involved than just age and that.
Well, yes, I don't think there's any dispute that who you choose to be with is not just looks.
It's not just age.
There's obviously other factors that people care about.
But I would say that people care, both men and women care a great deal about physical appearance.
And then men have certain, when it comes to selecting women, men have certain considerations as to a woman's age in terms of fertility.
You'd agree with me that the man who's desirous of having children, and let's say he's even 50, but he wants children, you would agree with me that he would not date a 50-year-old.
Is that correct?
Yeah.
Even if he's 50, he would not, is that fair to say?
If he wanted children, yeah.
Right.
It's basically if you're 50.
50 year olds, though.
These women, they'd be taking care of this.
But if you're 50, and look, this is like a less than ideal situation, but if you're a 50-year-old man and you're like, I want to have kids, you're not picking the 50-year-old woman.
Because you were saying, well, it depends on your age group.
Well, I'm like, well, if you're a 40-year-old man, you're going to pick the 30-year-old over the 40-year-old.
Would you agree with that?
Sure.
So, I mean, I'm getting the impression that you're just kind of.
I'm just here for the experience.
I'm still kind of like surprised that I'm here, to be honest with you.
Surprised you're on the podcast.
But I mean, I'm tired.
But so have I changed your mind or are you just going along to get along?
I mean, like I said, this is a, you know, there are some aspects that I agree with because I think because I am, you know, older, that I do see some of the points that you make.
And some of the messages that you do have make sense.
However, it could be a little more unifying.
But like you said, it's just the tone police and everything.
But like I said, I mean, you've made a lot of money.
So then do you making it the way that you're making it?
Do you agree then that women lose dating value as they age?
It depends on how you're looking at it, you know?
And of course, you know, like it depends how you see that.
It depends.
Yeah.
So I would.
For your audience and for you and for your argument.
But yes, of course it depends.
So for example, I would be willing, I'm willing to say that there are some 35-year-olds that are going to possess that are going to have more dating value than a 25-year-old.
But I'm speaking in sort of generalities in terms of principles.
So, yeah, so it's like generally speaking, younger women are, if you're comparing a woman, like the same woman at 25 versus 35, generally speaking, assuming there's no major life changes or anything and not doing something where like, okay, well, at 25, a woman could be obese and at 35, she could be like a fitness superstar.
If we're saying a woman who has like a good body at 25, she has a good body at 35, but she aged 10 years, she's going to be more, her body, her face, that's going to be better at 25 than at 35.
And men are going to value the looks more.
They're going to value the fertility more.
They're probably going to value 10 less years of baggage also.
Because as people age, both men and women, you accrue trauma, you accrue baggage, you get jaded.
Trust me, people in their 30s are fucking jaded.
Oh, wow.
Fuck it.
So have I changed?
Am I getting a concession from you on this?
Do women lose value dating value as they age?
I'm playing a lot of old people.
No.
I just, no, I say so.
I'm pretty sure all the old people in the old folks' homes.
We're having real fun right now.
Go ahead.
No, I don't agree with that.
With the metric, the argument that you're making with the metric that you have, then it makes sense, but I don't agree with it.
You don't agree with the metric and biological reality and facts.
When it comes to the metric and the argument and, you know, the whole kind of the way you're presenting it, then, you know, yeah, it makes sense in that arena.
But overall, no.
Wait, what arena am I?
Pokemon.
No, low-key here speaking facts, though.
Like, honestly.
Can you tilt your mic down a little bit?
Yeah, continue.
Honestly, though, young people are sought after more than older people are.
That's just facts, okay?
Like, honestly, you go to a strip club, you see all these old-ass dudes sitting in the sections and shit, trying to get a little peek at the younger crowd.
Like, they don't really give a fuck about the old lady they got at home laying in bed with them.
That's just facts.
Like, honestly.
So, is it your position that let's say you take you take a woman assuming like controlling for various factors?
Is it your position that if you were to pull a hundred men that and you were, I mean, you could even do it with the same woman.
So, a woman at 25 versus 35.
If we polled a million men, do you think that those million men, and they could, they could all be different ages, or they could even be 35.
Do you think those million men are more likely to find the, in terms of, I guess attractiveness would be the metric here.
Uh, they're more likely to find the 35-year-old more desirable over the 25-year-old, generally?
Generally, probably not, no.
Okay, so do women do women lose dating value as they age?
No, no, doesn't make any sense, but okay, completely contradictory.
It doesn't make any sense.
You agree, but you disagree.
Um, I can't also you're just kind of refusing to do that.
It depends.
I think what she means is like it depends because the honesty is.
Then everything depends.
Because some 30, some 30-year-old women is bad as fuck.
Like, they take good care of themselves.
They could be a 20-year-old, ugly as fuck, knowing how to take care of herself.
If she looked like me, probably not.
If she's bad at 30, there's some 30-year-olds that really just bad at 30.
You take care of themselves.
30, you said differently.
You got a different, you know, I'm like, look, you feel me?
Because in high school, I wasn't all that.
I mean, if you do a gender stuff, it's the same thing.
The women would rather prefer their men to be younger as they age, to be honest.
That's just facts.
I don't want to.
I'm going to tell you about emotion.
These young boys out here, one of my homies, he's slaying dick, and he got a sugar mama, and she's old.
She's older.
He's older, and he's younger.
So, you know, it's the same thing.
Vice versa, either gender.
When we say that women lose dating value as they age, so this would be about like sexual and romantic desirability.
Dating operates like it operates like a market.
So it's like people have preferences and both men and women experience shifts in desirability over time.
So that's just what it comes down to.
It's not to say that older women are worthless, worthless as people.
It's not to say that no man wants older women or that all women decline equally or that their value drops to zero.
That's not what we're saying.
But we're saying it's a gradual decline over time.
Women do lose dating value over time.
It's just, it's fertility.
It's beauty.
It's physical attractiveness.
It's all these things.
I'll be back in 10 years for the roundup.
All right.
Make a comparison.
We'll be back.
We'll see who have more bitches.
You or me.
I feel like I need to either hear a counter argument or I think you just have to concede the point.
What about people that are that get more attractive?
Yeah.
Let's see what the chat thinks.
What does the chat think?
Yeah, we could do that.
Let's see what the chat thinks.
Can you put it on Twitch and then window and pull?
Can you pull up the chat for us, Mary?
No, Have the Twitch.
You know the chat that you've pulled up before?
It all integrated?
Like, it's not Twitch.
The YouTube chat, the pop-up chat, pop-out chat.
Here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine.
I'm going to let a TTR.
Think real long and hard.
Why is it not?
What you going to say?
Based, Thor donated $100.
As Kevin Samuels says, 27 time to sell 30-50% off, over 35 on clearance, 40 outlet, 50 goodwill salvation army.
Sorry, but your dating value just goes down as you get older.
Don't get bitter, get better.
It is what it is.
It is what it is.
You know, don't get bitter, get better.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
This idea that all men age like no, like, honestly, look, some men do age like wine.
And look, some women, there's a lot of hot women at 30-40.
But what we're trying to say is, yeah, like, as you get older, what does this mean?
You typically, a lot of people tend to gain weight as they get older.
They get wrinkles.
You know, the face ages, facial attractiveness changes.
All right.
Let's do it.
So we're going to ask the chat.
Come on, Chesky.
Can you make it bigger?
Because I cannot see.
We can't see that shit.
All right, chat.
I'm trying to think the best way.
How about one in the chat if you think that women lose dating value as they age?
And then two in the chat if you think.
CD, I see you.
Chat Questions About Aging00:02:12
CD skier.
One in the chat if women lose dating value as they age.
Two in the chat if two in the chat if they don't.
Damn, I can't even read.
So we will see some twos.
We'll see some, but we're mostly going to see ones.
And this is.
I've seen something about collagen.
Like, what the fuck?
So collagen got dubbed shit.
All women are goddess.
Wait for your choices, lol.
All right.
And I have another question.
I'll ask the chat.
Chat.
I want you to write.
The eggs, man.
Some eggs.
Freeze them holes.
Okay, chat.
Here's the question.
Or 20.
Chat, here's the question.
I want you to write your age, and then I want you to write if you would rather date a woman who's 25 or 35.
All things being equal.
We are small.
Write your age and then write, would you rather just write your age and then like a dash and then either 25 or 35.
Your age, you got include your age.
Don't you say, include your age and tell us if you'd prefer to date 25 or 35?
Mary, can you move the map?
19, 35, 28, or 29, 35, 32, 25, 44, 25, 61, 35.
Oh, shit.
This is going five.
33, 35.
Ooh, 20.
Ooh, okay.
I see this.
45, 30.
36, 25, 40, 25, 50, 25.
Either 35 or 25.
Don't do this 30 thing.
Right, right, right, right.
I think it makes sense.
Yeah, so look, overwhelmingly, though, just based off this, we're seeing men saying mostly.
There are 35s.
Hey, there's 35s.
They're saying 25, though.
There's a lot of 25.
All women are goddess.
I love it.
The younger guys are saying 25.
I'm 37.
My girlfriend is 23.
Okay, that's usual.
52, 25.
That's not too bad.
No, yeah.
Yeah.
All right, we'll leave it.
I guess I'll leave that there on that.
Name Three Countries00:10:01
Let me see if there's.
Well, that was that continuous.
Sure.
Yeah.
Sure, yeah.
Okay, she's not going to concede the point.
I've not heard a convincing counter-argument, so I'm just going to go ahead and say, checkmate, I won that exchange.
Sorry, sorry.
All right, we have a final segment here: the rapid fire questions.
Hopefully, trying to get through these as quick as possible.
I'm asking for quick responses.
If you can, that's it for all the notes from all the panelists.
Did I miss anybody or we got everybody, right?
Just wanted to double-check.
I didn't miss anyone.
All right.
Let's see here.
Where do we begin?
Oh, okay.
Here we go.
Fun time.
Whoops.
Name three countries besides the USA.
France.
Canada.
And India.
Okay, you can't repeat previous answers.
Your turn?
Three countries.
Three countries.
Mexico, Vietnam, Japan.
Okay.
Germany.
France.
Wait, no.
Can't repeat.
Oh.
I was like, is that country?
Ooh.
You asked this at the perfect time, didn't you?
That'll skip me.
Skip me.
Come on.
You got it, girl.
Three countries, too.
Three countries.
I don't even know what you guys said.
Okay, I said Germany.
Girl, I fucking failed in high school.
Hella.
So I did not judge gender and geography, but let me think.
Okay, I'll come back to you.
Go ahead.
Uganda, Rwanda, and Ethiopia.
Get ready.
I'm not ready.
I don't give a fuck either.
I'm not ready.
I don't know.
Fucking.
Guys, if you just like just, I'm trying here.
I'm trying to get this wrapped.
If you guys want to just keep stalling, I'm trying to get you guys out of here.
Just come on.
I don't know.
Texas won.
Texas.
We are our own country.
I used to be our own country.
This is why I failed, bro.
I failed, okay?
I had to do summer school.
How about just a moment?
I'm going to give you a continent and you tell me countries from Africa.
Africa.
I find it helpful if you think about the region.
Change the continent.
Internet.
Come on.
Next.
Okay.
All right.
Don't give me math questions either.
Peru, Jamaica, Dominican Republic.
By the way, you guys don't need to wait for me to be like you, you, you.
Just as soon as the person answers, just you can go right into it.
Cuba, Ireland.
Puerto Rico?
That's a state.
Well, sorry, actually.
Oh my god, now I'm the one.
Clifford shit it was.
Sorry, it's a territory.
It's a territory of the.
It's not a country.
Wow, that was.
Sometimes you got to take an L. Got it.
It is a little late.
I did misspeak there.
But it's not a.
Oh, my God.
It's not a state.
But maybe it's going towards statehood.
Maybe.
Okay.
All right.
Panama.
Okay, we'll go in.
Romania, Venezuela, Guatemala.
How many continents are there?
Seven.
I'm testing our IQ right now.
How many continents are there?
How many continents are there?
Into the mic?
Come on.
No, bro.
Guess.
If you don't know, just guess.
How about that?
I mean, they say seven, so I'm going to say seven, so.
Okay.
Name one continent starting with you.
Actually, you know what?
We're starting with you.
We're going this way.
Name one continent.
You can't repeat.
Antarctica.
Asia.
South America.
Oh, we can't repeat it.
Yeah, bro.
Just a fucking question.
Antarctica.
I don't know.
She already said South Africa.
North America, South America.
Antarctica, Australia.
For you.
Asia.
For years, you didn't name three countries.
What two countries bordered the USA?
Nobody help.
Nobody help.
What two countries bordered the USA?
Fuck, I don't know.
Mexico?
Yep, that's one.
Other one?
My fucking...
Canada?
Russia?
I don't fucking know.
One of them.
Okay, how about what's on what's on top of us?
What country's on top?
Above us, I guess you could say.
What country's above us, y'all?
You said that.
Don't, don't.
Is it Canada?
Okay, what country's below us?
The bordering country.
What's the country below us?
That's not Mexico?
That's not that?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's me.
Okay.
That's what I said.
I said that already, though.
And now I'm going to point to you guys for some of these.
How many states in the USA?
Into the mic, speak into the mic.
15.
50?
Okay.
What is the capital of the USA?
Can you be straight with the mic?
Like, straight, straight, straight?
Oh, you're asking me?
What's the capital of the USA?
Yeah.
You don't need to repeat the question.
You can just answer it.
I'm repeating it because I don't know it.
That's why.
What's the capital of the USA?
Fucking no, America.
Washington, D.C. Thank you.
Hey, I didn't point to you.
She was super eager to say, so ask her.
How many...
I'm just going to pick on you since you're... Man.
Man, stop picking on me, bro.
I fucking failed in hella classes growing up.
I skipped hella shit.
If you don't know, just guess.
How many stars are on the U.S. flag?
Don't help.
Fucking 12?
I don't know.
Say close.
How many is it?
10?
Shit, I don't know.
Girl, you know.
How many states in the USA are there?
States in the USA?
Okay, California.
I hate that you pick it on me right now.
That's not okay.
You need to move on.
Next.
Just guess.
How many states in the USA?
Can you straight?
Yeah.
Just guess.
Straight into the mic.
Tilt your mic down.
Can you tilt her mic down?
Tilt her mic down.
Oh, my God.
She ain't got to do it.
Yeah, I know I can fucking crazy.
Okay, how many states in the USA?
Seven.
Oh, can you name no?
Because I guess you told me to guess, so I'm guessing.
Name the seven states.
I don't fucking know.
Name the seven states in the USA.
I don't know.
Florida?
I'll do it.
I'm going to name the seven states.
Go right ahead.
Florida, Texas.
Go right in.
California.
California.
Florida.
New York.
New Jersey.
California.
Louisiana.
Texas.
Puerto Rico.
Hey, I got to recover somehow.
I don't know.
Okay.
What century are we in?
The 21st.
What century are we in?
I'm pretty sure we're in the 21st century.
You are correct.
How many?
How many in one dozen?
How many in one dozen?
Twelve.
What year was the U.S. founded?
1776.
Who did the U.S. gain its independence from?
Oh, y'all went to college.
Thank you for that.
No.
You didn't?
Up, Mike, Mike, Mike.
Gain their independence from?
Yeah, who did the U.S. gain its independence from?
What country?
That's when the settlers came.
Where did they come from?
Didn't they come from like Europe or Britain or something?
I don't know.
What country did the United States gain its independence from?
Oh, from?
Yeah.
Here?
Like, you know, July 4th?
Yeah, here.
So, America, we gave you a newspaper.
What holiday is July 4th?
Have you seen the movie with Will Smith?
Independence.
Independence Day from the Friday.
Independence.
Do you know?
So who did we gain our independence from?
What country?
We celebrate it as a holiday, July 4th.
Like, was the if we gained our independence, we gained it from someone.
Who did we gain our independence from?
I don't know.
Guess.
Just throw any country on there.
Wild guess.
I threw out like two in the beginning.
No, but throw out a new country.
That was all my guesses.
I run out of guesses.
No, bro.
Stop asking me these questions.
Wait, what?
What's the question?
Who did the U.S. gain its independence from?
The British.
There it is.
Didn't I say British?
I didn't know.
I'd get it.
I didn't hear it.
I did.
Who was the first president of the USA?
I want to say George Washington.
That is correct.
What country is the Great Wall of China in?
China.
China.
How many inches in a foot?
12.
I wasn't pointing to you.
You haven't pointed at me.
I'll get you at all.
Closest Star Riddle00:05:36
Okay, fine.
How many seasons are there?
Four.
Okay.
How many days in a year?
365.
How many letters in the alphabet?
You next to me?
Oh my gosh.
That's really embarrassing.
I want to say 23.
But probably wrong.
26?
26?
27?
Wait, say it again?
Say that?
I was going to say 27.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
how many days of the week end with the letter y you're just gonna blink into the Into the mic, into the mic, into the mic.
All of them.
Into the mic, into the mic.
All of them.
There you go.
Good job.
You got one.
You got one right.
Oh, yeah.
How long does.
Ah, that one's boring.
What language do the people in Idaho speak?
English.
Congratulations.
What ocean?
What ocean is California next to?
The Pacific?
Yeah, there you go.
Hey, look, I don't like all this shit.
Y'all got going true to me, honestly.
I don't like it.
It's not.
Look, we got good.
No, no, I don't care about that.
What is half of 1 million for you?
500,000.
Congratulations.
How many years in a decade?
10.
How many are in a century?
Into the mic.
How many are in a century?
How many years?
15?
I don't fucking know, y'all.
12.
You know, you're making like some people maybe just shouldn't vote, I think.
Oh, God.
My vote's getting canceled out.
I didn't vote.
I haven't voted.
I feel like if you don't know some of these questions, maybe it's just like we gotta repeal your right to vote.
It's okay.
I don't mind not voting.
Y'all could do that for it.
Fuck it.
W. If a dozen eggs cost $3, how much is each egg?
But doesn't age cost $3?
That's some cheap eggs.
So 3 divided by 12, it's like...
How much is each egg?
How much is each egg?
Trick question.
I got wait, hold on.
No, it's about 50.
It's 50 cents.
Wait, hold on.
50 cents?
I mean, think about this.
No, like the wrapper.
Because there's 12 and it's $3.
Yeah, divided by 50.
So $35.
I can't do math right now.
Hold on.
I'm usually pretty good at this, though.
$12?
$3.
Each egg was $3.
I'm pretty sure.
Wait, there's a dozen.
Wait, that's crazy.
There's a dozen eggs, and then, like, think about.
I'm pretty sure it's 25 cents each.
Think about it.
Because there's four quarters.
You got to break the eggs up into like threes, right?
Because like there's.
Wait, hold on.
That doesn't even matter.
It's a quarter each.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is the closest star to Earth?
The closest star to Earth?
I don't know what the fuck.
Nobody helping.
Damn.
Milky Way.
I don't know.
Shit.
You are correct.
Exactly.
Is it really?
You're right.
Is it fucking really the Milky Way?
Jesus.
What is it?
The closest star is the Milky Way.
No, it's for sure, Rihanna.
What's the closest star to Earth?
The sun.
Good job.
Period.
Oh, that makes sense.
That makes more sense.
Okay.
Do you know what year the War of 1812 started?
1812, bro.
Okay.
What country is the Panama Canal in?
What country is the Panama Canal in for you?
Fucking.
Ask her that.
For you.
What's a trick question?
It's the Panama Canal.
What is what country is it in?
Panama.
Yes, there we go.
She's on the fucking roll.
She's on the phone.
Yes.
Where?
How about this?
What is 34 plus 66?
Oh, hell no.
Don't mess me down.
100.
Period.
Yep.
Are we sure?
What do you think?
What do you think?
Wait, I just thought I asked her.
34 plus 66?
100.
What do you think?
15?
Don't ask me that.
Okay.
Type of question.
I don't like that.
Where did the answer, though?
100?
100.
Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
For you?
Next time?
The learning lesson right here, uh, the Hawaii that is acceptable, and I'll never forgive them, sneaky sneaky.
Appreciate you for this learning.
No, she is a meme.
No, how much is a quarter of an hour?
Oh, um, 15 minutes.
You are correct.
Uh, what um hold on, what is seven plus seven plus seven?
I shouldn't ask the strippers because they know how to count.
Yeah, I was like, I'm figuring out.
You don't goofed.
They know math.
Seven Plus Seven Plus Seven00:03:51
They're counting.
Hellfucker means what country did the Vietnam War happen in for you?
Yeah, Vietnam.
Huh?
The Vietnam War.
Which country?
Vietnam.
Do you have a fucking Targaryen tattoo?
Yeah, yeah, I do.
She's got the fucking fire and blood.
Oh, my God.
Are you watching Knight of the Seven Kingdom?
Yeah, you already know.
Oh, you have another Game of Thrones tattoo?
No, this is just an unknown.
Oh, I thought you were showing me like another one.
Yeah, she's got a fucking Game of Thrones tattoo.
Actually, that's kind of sad.
I don't really like that space, but I do like Game of Thrones, so I guess I got to give you credit there.
Yeah, Star Wars was chill.
L. Star Wars.
Star Wars.
L. Doodlebob.
Guys, who's been watching?
Oh, bro, the new episode came out.
Ooh, after this, I'm watching the new episode of A Night of the Seven Kingdom.
Mary, can you open the door?
Okay.
What is 100 minus 66?
Come on, girl.
Speaketh.
I told you, I failed in math class.
But this is I skipped a lot of school.
I went to summer school.
I like kindergarten.
And look, I failed in kindergarten too because I didn't have glasses growing up.
So I struggled in school really badly.
When you were pimping all those women, I was never pimping.
Okay, when you were damning all those women, like you had money, weren't you counting money and shit?
Counting the bills.
Yo.
Oh, my God.
Counting the bills.
I listened to Pearl James.
No, I'm not good at math, guys.
I don't know math like that.
I'm not good.
I use calculators.
I'm not street smart.
I'd like to live in the streets.
No, I would die.
I would straight up be dead.
Do you think I would do well in the streets?
No, you would get killed straight up.
You would get eaten.
Really?
Yes.
What street?
I like this girl.
I like this girl.
No.
No, no.
With everybody else in the streets, though?
Along with you.
You would be fine.
You would be okay.
He would just figure out the method of act like a tweaker.
No, he wouldn't.
Just do fence.
Yeah, just be like, lean or whatever the fuck.
What's it called?
The fent.
The fent fold.
I just fent fold.
That's literally what you would do.
Yes.
Yeah.
What's that one show with all the zombies and stuff?
The Walking Dead.
The Walking Dead.
You like the one guy in the hat, the sheriff.
You would probably be the sheriff guy with the hat on.
The main character.
The main character, yeah.
I know.
You'd probably be.
Wait, was that?
I feel like I like that show, but I feel like he made a lot of mistakes.
He did.
He made a lot of mistakes.
I think I'd be more ruthless, to be honest.
Like, I know you guys think that's probably the other guy.
Nice and cuddly.
No.
And people.
Nobody thinks that.
Oh, the guy that had to do that.
Literally, nobody said that or thought that ever in the history of ever.
Like Brian, you're kind of soft, but I feel like I'd be in a zombie situation.
Assuming I could fucking survive the shit.
I feel like I'd be fucking ruthless.
You would be the guy that had the town, right?
The whole town?
I wouldn't kill people, but I'd like, I would do what's necessary to survive, you know?
Okay.
You would kill other people.
I wouldn't be malicious, how some of the people in that show were, but it was like if it was like you sacrifice others and you keep your daughter because she turned into a zombie, but you keep her because you love her.
Even though she's a zombie, you'll lock her up.
I would never marry a girl who, like, I asked this question.
This is one of my girlfriend application questions: is in the event of a zombie apocalypse, do you just like end or do you try to survive?
No, I have a full plan.
And if the woman's like, oh, it'd be really bad.
I think I just end it.
Can't date her.
Weak.
No post-apocalyptic warlord energy at all.
Fuck yeah.
Love this girl.
Aside from the well.
Don't go there.
Everything else.
Yeah.
Don't love her.
I love you as a cockade, like as my Caucasian, as my friend.
Allied vs. Axis00:06:30
Okay.
You're my homie.
Besides, I almost proceed.
I need to put you in the timeout again.
But three times three times three.
You?
Three times three times three is 27.
Eight plus eight plus eight.
Eight plus eight plus eight is twenty-four.
Seven minus seven minus seven.
Seven minus seven minus seven is negative seven.
Nine plus nine plus nine.
Nine plus nine plus nine is twenty-seven.
A hundred minus thirty-four?
66.
Nine minus nine minus nine.
Negative nine.
If yes is spelled Y E S, what does E Y E S spell?
I's.
Well done.
You tried to get her.
You tried to get her.
We got them.
If you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today for you?
If I was born 10 years ago?
Yeah.
19?
Is that not right?
I'm not sure if question.
29.
Because you're 10.
That answers the question.
Yeah, so you're 29 now, right?
So you got to do the math.
If you were born 10 years ago, how would you do that?
Oh, 10.
I'll be 10.
I'd be 10.
I was like, wait, that's the only one you got me on.
What's that?
How many, for you, how many world wars were there?
Two.
Into the mic if you can.
Two.
Okay, going around the table.
This is a question for everybody.
What decade?
So when I say decade, I'm looking for, I'm just giving an example.
1820s, 1930s, 1750s, the decade.
What decade was World War I?
1910s.
Don't.
I'm sorry.
What decade was World War I?
1910s.
I'm going to agree.
Oh, sorry.
I'm going to agree.
I'm going to agree.
Who's going to be the lone wolf here and say some 1920s?
Okay, what about you?
Oh my gosh.
I want to say 1930s.
I think you might be right, actually.
She might be right on that.
She might be right.
That could be a right answer.
What was the primary decade of World War II?
We're going to start this way and go around.
The primary decade of World War II.
1943.
Two to 1940.
No, I just need the decade.
I don't need.
Oh, 1940s.
1940?
What about you?
1940s.
1940s.
Yeah, same.
1939 to 1944.
Oh, my God.
Same.
1950s.
1950s.
Wait, 19.
Sorry, sorry, sorry, honey.
She's smart as fuck, though.
Yeah, she knows a lot.
1950s.
1950s.
Primarily 1940s.
1940s.
Okay.
That's why you would do good in the army.
No, for real.
I tried that shit.
It didn't work out.
Starting again on this side, I want you to name just one Allied power and one Axis power from World War II.
These are the two sides.
The two sides.
One, give me one Allied power and one Axis power.
World War II starting with you.
Oh, Jesus.
I want to say Ally would be the British and then one Axis power.
Texas, the French.
Next person.
Next person.
What was the question?
So, okay, World War II, like obviously countries, various, many, many countries were involved in World War II.
You had two sides, essentially, allied and access.
Name one Allied power, one access power from World War II.
Access Switzerland?
Oh no.
Allied.
Sorry, go ahead.
And what's the other one?
Switzerland access and then allied.
Give me one Allied power.
Russia.
I don't know.
I guess you did include a country that remained neutral during the war.
So I don't know if they would fall into either one, but they definitely weren't access powers.
You, one Allied power, one access power from World War II?
Ally Britain, Axis, Russia.
And don't repeat.
I'm going to be real with you.
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Okay.
Wait, I'm going to come back to you.
Oh, me?
Yeah.
Okay.
Access, Germany, Ally.
I have no idea.
One allied power.
I'll just say Switzerland.
Oh, like people that were with us.
I said they were neutral, but okay.
Okay.
One allied power, one access power, World War II.
Germany and.
Germany's what?
Germany allied?
Damn.
Okay.
Next.
So Germany Axis, one Allied?
Okay, Ally is.
British.
I feel like I'm copping if I say British, but ally.
You can't repeat.
No repeating.
No, okay.
No repeating.
I'm going to give it a break.
Obviously, it's too limited, but like, you guys have not named a few major powers in this conflict.
Has anybody said USA for anything?
I don't know.
Oh, I thought we were not including.
Yeah, I thought we haven't said USA for anything.
USA was definitely one of the.
I'm not going to say which side, but was one of the powers.
Ally.
Ally, USA.
Okay, access power?
Access.
Oh, my gosh.
Switzerland.
Sorry.
I don't know.
Back to me.
Did you give an answer?
Yeah, I got them right.
Oh.
Did you give one?
Yeah.
Oh, I'm losing track.
Okay, go ahead.
Give us three since you're so smart.
Okay, well, the ones I can remember the allied power of the allied powers are the US, Britain, and France.
And then for the Axis, I just remember Germany, Russia, and Japan.
Oh, yeah.
Oh.
Russia's a bit disputable.
There was a non-aggression pact between Russia and Germany, but I think it might be disputed.
Should I just Google this?
I'm pretty sure it's disputed that they're accessed.
69 Percent Snap00:15:38
Maybe.
I'm pretty sure.
Wait, hold on.
I'm just curious.
I want to just double check.
I'm pretty sure I'm right on this.
I'm pretty sure China is in there.
Was Russia Axis World War II?
I don't believe they were.
Why isn't the fucking.
Hello?
AI?
It was not Axis power.
No.
It had a non-aggression pact with Germany.
Okay.
But it was not Axis power.
So I was spot on, but I didn't want to be certain.
Okay.
Name three, somebody.
Anybody can just belt it out.
Three K-pop stars.
G-Dragon.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
We'll start here.
G-Dragon, Big Bang.
Straight into the mics.
Oh, G-Dragon, Big Bang, and then CL.
What about you?
You were going to go?
Oh, she said two of them, but then Hendrix.
Yeah.
Name three Kardashians.
Brain rub.
Fucking Kim.
I damn.
Kendall.
We'll accept Jenners.
What's the other bitch name?
Kim, Kendall, and Kylie.
There we go.
Beautiful.
All right.
Jenners, I guess we'll count.
Okay, a few more dating ones, and we're so close.
We're so close, guys.
Almost there.
Almost there.
Oh, my God.
We're so close.
What the frick?
I was really enjoying the trivia, though.
Not gonna lie.
That's all right, but that club of us.
All right, I'm gonna skip a lot of these just for time, but there are a few.
What percent of men do you think are over six feet tall?
Maybe five percent.
So like 10 percent.
15.
In the whole world, probably like 15.
Let's just say we can say US.
In the U.S., probably like 8%.
It's lower in the U.S.
Well, whatever.
Only in the U.S.?
Yeah, just U.S. is fine.
5%.
Into the mic.
Don't make me remind you guys again.
In the U.S. Just beyond the mics.
Like 16%?
16%?
35%?
9%.
Okay, it's about 15%.
Six feet and above.
What percent of men make at least $1 million a year?
Oh, probably like 0.0 or 0.8, sorry.
Going around?
1%.
4%.
My guess is 5%.
3%.
You said 1 million a year?
Yeah, like 1%.
Make 1 million a year or more.
What percent?
Go ahead.
1%.
2%.
okay it's like it's less than one percent uh what what percent actually hold on Do any of you keep a list of all the men you've been with on your phone or in a journal?
Like, no.
Dayton?
Probably in there something.
No, that you've smashed.
No.
Nope.
No.
I'm not trying to remember none of that.
Anybody here ever had a roster?
If so, how big was it?
Biggest ever.
No?
By the way, for the viewers, we're here in the last like five, ten minutes of the show.
$69 TTS.
If you guys want to do a roast, we'll do $69 TTS.
Justin, I see your super chats.
We'll read them.
It's below the threshold, but I'm going to lower it just to do yours.
$69 TTS dreamlabs.com slash whatever.
If you want to get a roast in here at the end, we won't drop it lower for a lower tier roast.
Going around.
What was the question?
Nobody had a roster?
The max I can do is like three on a roster.
No, I've had six, actually.
That's a lot.
That's a lot.
People make stressful for Roma.
I was on fucking all small.
I was bored.
No, but still, like, keeping up, like, texting and stuff and like making sure you say the right thing to the right one is a lot.
I put them in a group chat.
So if I can't talk.
How about this then?
What percentage of men have yachts?
Oh, gosh.
0.08.
Going around, you guys can just answer.
0.8%.
How much?
0.8%.
0.12%.
I'm going to say 1%.
Fucking, yeah, it's 0.5.
I'm going to say like 4 to 6%.
0.6 2.
You said 4 to 6 percent?
Yeah.
4 2 6 4 2 6 of men have yachts.
Yeah.
Wish.
Damn.
You didn't say what kind of yacht.
Any kind of yada yachty?
Has anybody here show of hands?
And I'll answer this one.
Have you ever slept with someone the same day you met them?
Yes, I have.
I have definitely done that.
Yes.
Just just you just us three right here?
Nobody you haven't same day, same day.
No.
You really you?
No, I haven't.
Doing all your weird lip shit the fucking tongue shit the entire fucking show.
You didn't crack somebody like even a chick.
You didn't fuck a chick right now.
Oh a girl, yes.
Oh, the girls get to hit right away, but the guys have to wait.
It's because penetration, you know, it's a little different.
No, I haven't fucked a girl the same at night.
I bet I know.
Okay.
Really?
Nobody?
Anybody else?
Nobody else.
$69 TTS, guys.
Mary, can you start pulling these up while I'm just doing a few things?
Jocelyn, can I have you read the super chats that come in?
Just read them.
Right here.
The pink.
Based underscore Justin 69, selling photos of yourself is not a virtue.
You are headed down a path of no redemption.
Get a grip, girl.
Money from Lonely Man is not a virtue.
Quick response if you want.
Cool.
Nice.
Cool story.
All right, next, Mary.
Who's that towards base?
Same guy.
Feminism, woman pursuing masculine roles.
Good luck, girls.
Women have roles and men have roles.
Thank you, Justin.
Next.
Maybe you should roll into this asshole.
Oh, so funny.
Come on, guys.
You made Brian laugh.
Bro, no way.
Yeah, that was shocking.
I know.
You got a fart time on that?
I can do it.
It's choking.
I can do it.
This is inner self.
Okay.
Drink some water.
Did you do the next?
How many strips?
Maybe person.
How many strips are on chair one sleeve?
Oh, me.
A lot.
That's a great question.
We're all around 10.
12.
12.
The fuck you paid to ask that.
12.
There you go, baby.
Every other question you said is out of here.
Just like our family.
That's crazy.
Okay.
$69 TTS if you guys want to get one in.
This panel definitely, maybe I should have done.
Oh, you know what?
I should have done a roast early, like midway.
I should do roast.
I used to do that.
We do the roast midway during a next time.
I forgot, I guess.
Anyone here ever had the threesome show of hands?
Yep.
More than the threesome.
More than the.
How big was it?
Foursome?
Five some?
Org?
Five?
Like she said.
Four into the mic if you can.
Was it a guy, guy, guy, girl?
All girls.
All girls, okay.
Anyone, show of hands.
Anyone ever had a ho phase?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, I had a ho phase, you know.
Has anyone here ever hooked up with two guys in a 24-hour period?
Yeah.
Oh.
More than two?
Yeah.
Like three guys?
Yeah.
Four guys?
Probably.
Five guys?
Oh, more than two.
You've been to five guys?
In one day?
No, not more than two.
So four guys in the 24-hour period.
Yeah.
Safely.
Like four back-to-back?
No, not back-to-back.
There was like probably time in between.
Two hours between?
No, not that, not that much.
Three hours.
Okay, my mistake.
How much in a seven-day period?
A seven-day period?
Maybe like I'd say 10.
Maybe.
What's your body count again?
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
I stopped counting.
I don't really count, but.
Is it over 100?
No, it's not over 100.
It happens to the best of us.
No.
How many in a one-month period?
How many guys?
One month.
One month.
How many guys?
One month.
Oh, you said you were doing escorting?
Okay.
So probably like in a month, maybe like max 20.
I feel like it's probably less than that, though.
Maybe like a cool 15.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Hold on.
Let me see.
Got TTS.
Donald Trump donated $69.
$69 TTS, if you want to get a number.
All these broads are mid ain't gonna lie.
We already know.
He already rated us.
You're way too late to that party.
Late to the party.
Yeah.
Come on, Donald Trump.
Okay.
Get it together.
Round it up to 70 next time, too, bitch.
Are men the problem?
No.
No, I think people are the problem.
Do men.
Sometimes, yes.
Sometimes, yes.
Do men suck.
I'm in trash.
No.
Halfway.
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
Alex human beings.
They're recycles.
Recycles.
If you could snap your finger and all men disappeared and women could reproduce it without men, so it's not like the end of the species.
Would you do it?
Yeah.
Ooh, that's hard.
No.
Yes.
No.
Wait, who said yes?
Me and her.
Me.
Wait, you said yes.
You said that.
Out of sheer curiosity.
And we can reproduce with just women.
Let's just see.
Let's just try something different.
Yeah.
Maybe chill.
Yeah.
Give it a shot.
Make it worse.
What the fuck are we supposed to do?
They're no men.
We can reproduce each other.
Sure.
No more Epicene.
No more Jeffrey Dahl.
Well, we see it like that.
Like, are also horrible sometimes, too.
Yeah, that's true.
Crazy was also involved.
No, there's no problem.
So, okay, just let me repeat the question again.
I don't want it messed up.
If you could snap your finger and all men disappeared, and assuming women could reproduce without men so they can continue just, I guess, reproducing more women, would you do it?
Yeah.
And then you said... I said yes.
Nah, I miss my papa.
No.
Yeah.
No.
Damn, that's fucked up.
You guys.
Wait, no, I have brothers.
Wait, no, no.
You guys are genocidal.
That's fucking crazy.
You want to wipe out like more?
Genocidal?
I don't want to get hurt.
I killed them off.
You said they have a finger.
You said the imaginary world, men ain't here.
No, no.
You snap your fingers and all men disappeared, so they die.
Today, right?
They died.
Oh, you guys, if I knew it, if I would do that.
I don't want to be a murderer.
Yeah, I ain't no murder.
So I think I'm going to have to retract my statement.
I'm not going to snap my fingers.
If somebody did it, if that was the circumstance and we had to regenerate and it's just all women, then we're going to do it.
I mean, I just, look, if I feel like you guys would say, if somebody asked this question and like framed it from like you were asking, you know, whoever, like, could you snap your finger and get rid of like all Palestinians?
You guys would be like, yeah, that's a genocide.
So it's like, I just, I find that kind of funny that you guys are like, no, well, what's the population of Palestine?
I don't know.
Like 10 mil.
I don't know what it is.
But like 4 billion plus men, not a genocide.
Kind of interesting to think about.
Would you snap your fingers if you could reproduce with just men?
Would you snap your fingers with just men?
His fingers probably.
We all disappear.
You guys can just fuck each other in the butts.
Nah, I'm not.
I'm not gay.
Speaking of which, is it gay for a man to date a trans woman?
Oh.
Starting with you.
No.
It's, wait.
No, it's not gay.
Okay.
What about you?
It's a little gay.
A little gay?
Okay.
No.
Not gay?
It's not gay because it's not a man, but it is a little queer.
You have to be that.
Queer.
Yeah.
Because you got to be, you're not, at that point, you're not straight.
You're a little leaning on like the pansexual or whatever vibe, you know?
Because you're dating a trans person.
I'll wait.
Point blank, period.
You're fucking gay.
W. Rare W for you.
Yeah.
Fuck off.
You're a hater.
What about you?
Is it gay?
Yeah, you're gay.
Is it gay?
Is it flipped?
What?
Well, the date.
It don't matter.
You're gay.
No, it could be post-op or pre-op.
Is it gay?
It's a woman.
That could be gay.
A little bit gay.
Okay, how about post-operative?
So they have the neo-vagina.
But the case.
It's still the tip of the dick.
How would I know?
I don't even know if there's a clip.
No, I watched a video.
That's disgusting.
I had to know.
I watched it to a girl.
I watched it too.
I saw the girl.
Oh, then, yeah, that's gay.
They cut the skin of the dick all the way down, and then they use the tube of that dick, and they make the tube into the clitoris.
They got the automated $69.
Women only have a few jobs.
Be pretty, don't be annoying, slash bring peace.
Don't be 304 and make a good sandwich, but you all are already failing half of that, and you want a high-value man.
True.
When did I ever say I wanted a man?
My God.
Oh, my God.
Nobody's listening to me this whole fucking time.
Your answer?
I think it's, yeah, it's a little gay.
A little gay.
A little bit.
So who said no?
You, you, like, you.
You said it's kind of gay a little bit.
It's 100% gay.
100% gay.
Okay, let's.
It's okay to be gay.
But it's like, that's still your bitch.
Like, that's not your man.
Be who you are.
Pre-ops.
So can somebody be trans?
Like a ladyboy?
No, can somebody be trans pre-operatively?
Yeah.
I think a person being transgender, I mean, I can't really speak on it to a full truth because I'm not transgender, but I think it's like if they, like, in today's society, it's like, oh, if you identify as that, then you are that.
So I think you have, that's kind of like the rules.
Yeah, so I think a woman is an adult human female.
I don't think you can extract gender from sex.
Right.
You can't.
Here's a question.
Can you change your sex?
No, there's female and male.
Sexuality vs. Gender Identity00:02:47
Right.
There's female and male.
So like a female could not identify as male.
Like what?
They wouldn't be male.
It doesn't make you a biological man.
It doesn't make you.
Not from birth.
No, but I don't care enough to really.
What do you think about like trans women in sports?
What do you think about that?
That's a whole different thing.
No, no, no.
No, you got to keep that separate.
What about kids getting puberty blocks?
We do not know.
We do not need to introduce that to kids.
Kids need to just grow.
What if the medical institutions say that, well, you know, for the sake of this trans person and they are IDing at like 10 or 11, the medical, the doctors say, well, if you want them to actually have like the best, and it is true, if you do want, if you, this person is trans, like they will be as closer to a woman if they transition and they take puberty blockers at 11 versus if they wait until 18.
It is, it is true.
Too young.
Okay, but if the doctors are saying.
I don't care, too young.
In my opinion, I think.
So even if a doctor was like, look, this is gender affirming care and we're going to give 11.
They're just trying to get some cha-ching from big pharma.
If you can't drink until you're 21, why the fuck should you have the decision?
We can't change genders until we're like 26.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Ultimately, though, it's definitely gay for a man to be a trans woman.
I'm sorry.
It's gay.
There's no, it's not just kind of gay.
It's not a little gay.
Full gay.
Full gay.
Full on homosexuality.
I'll give you the super, the easiest argument ever.
So, okay, if we acknowledge that even if this person is a we grant the gender shit, they're a woman, a trans woman, you would all agree with me that you can't change your sex.
So that's still a male.
That's not, that's still a male.
It's a transgender woman, but it's a male.
So when two males have sex, regardless of their gender identity, if we're talking about sexuality, someone's sexuality refer, we don't say, we say opposite sex attraction.
That would be heterosexuality.
Same sex attraction, homosexuality.
Homosexuality, baked into the definition itself, it's sexuality is referencing someone's sex, your sex attraction.
So regardless of if you put on the wig and you take fucking hormones and you get some fake titties and you invert your fucking penis into a permanent wound, that I'm sorry, but you are, that's not a pussy.
That is, I don't know what the fuck that is.
Good Hole Debate00:07:20
Hole, good hole.
What the fuck?
That's crazy.
Oh, no.
Some good hole.
You have, regardless of the gender identity, when two males are having sex, that is homosexual.
And I usually.
Really?
Really?
You guys haven't played the game.
I have no idea.
That's not what it happened.
I didn't have the game.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
This is so smart.
Oh, my God.
Are you good, bro?
What's past my bent on?
Someone's got 5150 at this girl.
I think that's it.
I think that's it.
Oh, do white people have culture?
Yeah.
Yeah, y'all got, you know, khaki shorts, tiki.
I got movie, big y'all gotta like think it bars, hot dog water.
We took air.
It's like borrowed, but it's like reinvented.
Borrowed and reinvented.
It's the final thing, and we're done.
Take off your makeup.
We do a segment called removing your makeup to see what you guys actually do.
Oh, I look pretty without makeup.
Uneath the paints.
I'm not sure.
Who does this?
Who's going to take their makeup off?
I'll take it.
I'm like itching guys.
I actually want it off my skin.
Whoever takes their makeup off gets either a slice of pizza or something.
So you're right back with the food?
Yes.
Okay, but what if I'm not wearing any makeup?
I'm not wearing any makeup.
You want me to show you I'm not wearing makeup?
I'll rub this shit against my face.
I'm trying to get them out.
I'm going to hold it.
You're going to hold it.
I'm wearing a lot of makeup today, buddy.
Wait, don't worry.
I wasn't sure I put the lighting in.
Where's the makeup?
I'm rashed, but I like, don't.
Where is it?
I love that.
I get really red.
I'm not going to attempt it.
Hey, save that.
You're going to hold it up.
Hold it up when you're done.
It's kind of like crusty.
It's going to take me a minute.
It's going to take me a minute.
She's taking her shit, her things off.
I'm telling you, it takes me a minute.
Wait, should I take my hair off?
Oh, that's crazy.
She's so beautiful.
Wait, I'm going to give you guys a little review.
Oh, there goes my contour.
No, I'm so happy to get this off.
I didn't even bring any.
Oh, what the fuck?
I do get this off.
This is coming off.
The head is coming off.
She's taking her weave out.
I really love this, though.
I really love that you are doing this because this is showing the women's really true beauty.
Because, no, they are all really beautiful.
Beautiful.
Beauty at the table.
Yeah, you're beautiful.
And then hold up makeup wipes.
That was beautiful.
Damn.
All right.
I hope I got any breakout.
I hope you did that well.
That was really good drop shoes on here.
Hold up the makeup wipes.
If you hold them up, we want to see what's.
I can't even see that.
Hold it up.
Up and I'll go.
Hold it up.
On this side, hold it up.
Wait, spread it.
Spread them.
Spread those sheets.
Spread the sheets.
Thank you.
That's the wrong side.
Oh, I like this.
I think it's a little bit.
She said, ah!
Damn, shit.
Man, you know what's crazy?
You know, we had a lot of tens here.
And I see, let me make this point.
A lot of you said you guys are tens, but you done wiped away all of it.
Sorry, that did not.
Now they're 11s.
They wiped away.
It was all.
They wiped it.
You know what's like women?
They wipe away their confidence or something.
What's the joke?
I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
I'm delusional at this point.
All right.
No, you look more Asian.
Oh, God, huh?
Yeah.
You can see it now.
Mulan.
Mulan, is that you?
All right, now wipe your beard.
No, shave your beard off.
Shade your beard off.
Because you know what?
Men's makeup is their beard and their mustache.
So please pull up a photo of you without your beard and your mustache.
I'll show you.
You got to take your makeup off.
I'll show you young Brian without a beard.
Let's see what he looks like.
All right.
You got the mary?
Scroll up to the very bottom.
Is this?
I don't want to see a young photo of you either.
Scroll up, scroll up.
Let's see if you guys can see.
Hey, you're actually kind of hot.
What is this?
This isn't you.
What happened to you, bro?
Right?
Exactly.
Oh, my God.
This is not you.
This is your son.
I wish.
You kind of look like Jack Septukai.
Scroll up a bit.
Scroll up a bit.
There you go.
Yeah, I know.
I wasn't bad, right?
Look, I wasn't a message.
What?
You know, I need to see the year this was taken.
Oh!
That took a turn.
You look more Asian now.
So he's just like, oh, my God!
I don't know.
He's like, that's crazy.
Oh, shit.
He saw Mulan and he wanted that thong.
Hello.
Dude, Mulan's such a gay movie, though.
Wait, what?
Dude, the guy literally falls in love with her because she's a guy.
And then when he finds out she's a girl, he kicks her out.
And he's like, you're not a tweet.
I'm about to wrap.
Any final thoughts from anybody before I wrap?
Peace.
Okay.
So I'm going to say, GG.
Well played.
Last call, guys.
Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
Also, please leave a nice comment once the live ends.
I read them.
Positivity is nice.
It helps the algorithm.
Thank you for tuning in tonight.
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
I appreciate that.
Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, supports the show.
We could not do it without you guys.
We're going to be live.
Oh, actually, we have some debates scheduled for this week.
Andrew Wilson is going to be here.
So the schedule, I think it's like Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Stacked.
Stacked.
Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram.
If you can make it to Santa Barbara, let me.
Are we forgetting anything, Mary?
I think that's it.
07's in the chat.
07's in the chat.
It was a fun show.
You guys were fun.
A little feral, not gonna lie, but it was fun.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate the back and forth.
Long show, mostly.
07's in the chat.
07's in the chat.
Thank you guys for tuning in.
07 is in chat.
Good night, guys.
Towels over bad.
Good night, guys.
We'll see you next time.
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Okay, guys, we are and we're wrapped.
Really quick, just did anybody lie about their body count?
No.
Yeah.
Be honest.
Like, be honest.
Like, no, dead ass.
Dead ass, you're a virgin waiting until marriage.
I don't know how the sex thing looks so random.
So.
So, did anybody lie about their body count?
Yeah.
Like, for example, I lied.
I'm not a virgin.
We know you weren't a virgin.
No, I did lie.
I am actually not a virgin.
I did lie.
Did anybody lie about their body count or maybe like you know anything?
Nothing?
Nobody wants to reveal anything?
I'm a virgin, too.
I'm pretty open, actually.
I have no reason to lie.
Oh my god, Mary, what the fuck?
Bro, you didn't fucking end the stream, you fucking Mary.