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HEATED Debate With Woke Girls?! CAT FIGHT?! Brian TILTED?! BASED Russians! | Dating Talk 279

Brian Atlas hosts a chaotic, high-energy debate with guests like Diana (38, Russian-American), Taz (OnlyFans creator earning near six figures in two months), and Bella (18, Oregon server) on dating, gender roles, and societal shifts—from Amy’s $2M+ income demands to Diana’s controversial stance against women on dating apps. They clash over alimony bias, birth control’s alleged effect on attraction, and whether feminism truly seeks equality, like mandatory military conscription for women. The episode spirals into absurd hypotheticals (e.g., sex with Putin to prevent WWIII) and rapid-fire trivia, exposing gaps in knowledge while critiquing modern dating culture’s commodification and perceived double standards. Ultimately, it blends hyperbole, cultural grievances, and self-deprecating humor into a messy critique of relationships, economics, and identity politics. [Automatically generated summary]

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Recently Unemployed College Student 00:04:52
Welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.
I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
We're gonna just jump right in.
Sorry for the delay there, guys.
We're gonna have the guests introduce themselves.
Go ahead.
I'm Serenity.
I'm 19.
I'm from California.
I'm recently unemployed.
And I go to the CC in Santa Barbara.
And I'm a communications major.
And sorry, did you say where you're from originally?
California.
Like Northern California.
More kind of like Reading?
More like the Bay Area.
And you said you were recently unemployed.
Were you fired?
No, I was not.
I just moved recently so I had to quit.
Yeah.
Okay, what about you?
I'm Summer.
I'm from Scotland.
Why did for a job?
Age?
Oh, I'm 27.
Okay.
And I do OnlyFans and fun.
What part of Scotland are you from?
I'm from Glasgow.
Glasgow, okay.
That's the best place.
All right.
Any college or anything like that?
I went to Glasgow School of Art.
Art?
Do you have a degree from there?
No, I dropped it.
Dropped in, okay.
What were you doing for art?
I was in portraiture and faint art.
Portraits.
Okay.
You should.
Do you want to draw you?
Portrait, yeah.
I'll deny it.
Like one of your French girls or.
Oh, I'll draw you.
Yes.
All right.
What about you?
What's up?
I'm Bella.
I'm 18.
Or server.
And I'm not in school right now.
Okay.
And where are you from?
Oregon.
Oregon.
Portland?
Nope.
Rogue River.
Rogue River.
Middle of nowhere.
Okay, the sticks.
The sticks.
All right, what about you?
I'm Amy.
I'm from Australia originally.
I've been living in the States 10 years now.
Most recently at Roserna.
I just moved out there.
I am an independent creator on YouTube.
I actually just went independent.
I was with the Value Tainment Network for a couple of years.
And I have an Associate's in Justice and Legal Studies.
And repeat your age again.
30.
30, okay.
Rock and roll.
It's been a few years since I've been on.
Yeah, welcome back.
What about you?
I'm Holly.
I'm from the UK.
I'm 23 years old, and I also do OnlyFans, but I have a uni degree doing textile design.
All right.
And what city are you from in the UK?
I'm from Leeds.
Leeds.
That's northern.
Yeah.
The Northerner.
Northerner.
All right.
What about you?
My name is Sheva.
I moved to Miami a year and a half ago from Israel.
And I work as an office manager for a roofing company.
And I sing and play guitar and write and compose.
Age?
And I'm 21.
21.
Are you in college or university or anything like that?
No, I work.
Work.
Okay.
Gotcha.
All right.
Welcome.
What about you?
Hi, my name is Taz.
I also do OnlyFans for a living.
And what else?
Age.
My age.
I'm 24 years old.
I'm turning 25 this February.
Any college?
I have a degree in information technology.
I'm an ex-software developer.
Ex-software developer.
And you've went into OnlyFans?
How much were you making as a software developer?
I was making six papers.
How much are you making with OnlyFans?
I have been on the platform for only two months.
How much are you making on OnlyFans?
I don't know if I want to disclose that.
Well, are you making as much as you?
A little bit more than that.
Almost very close by.
Very.
Okay, so in two months you've dwarfed your, or at least you're matching your earnings as a software.
I was not really expecting that either, but.
All right.
What about you?
My name is Lisa.
I am 34.
I'm a stay-at-home mom, and I am from super small town in Utah.
Population 650, so.
All right.
College or anything like that?
I did go to nursing school and get my license.
Okay, so you're a nurse.
Yeah, but my license expired.
Oh, but you stay at home with the kids.
Okay, gotcha.
You used to be a nurse.
Okay, what about you?
My name is Diana.
I'm from Russia.
So I hope you guys understand my English through my accent.
It's not perfect.
What city?
Khabarovsk.
It's forest.
Really close to China.
Okay.
Age?
38.
38?
Yeah, I think I'm the oldest here.
College.
Texas University.
And it's a college in Khabarovsk.
I don't know.
How long have you been in the United States?
10 years.
10 years.
Okay.
All right.
Welcome, everybody.
Welcome, welcome.
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Okay, relationship status.
Tell us your relationship status.
Very much single.
All right.
How long have you been single for?
Almost a year.
I'd say like nine months.
Longest relationship for you?
Well, the first and only boyfriend I've had was three years off and on.
Three years off and on.
Yeah.
Okay.
And if I were, is this the gay one?
I didn't know you were going to out it like that.
Just right away.
I get it.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I found out he was DL.
Gay.
Okay.
The three-year off and on guy.
This guy.
Yeah.
And when you say it was off and on, how many times was it?
Oh, it was throughout high school from sophomore year to right after senior year.
Yeah.
And it was very much off and on, continuously.
But like three times, 20 times.
Like, I'd say, oh, like five to ten times.
Five to ten.
Five.
I'd say five times.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's on the higher end, I'd say.
Yeah.
Off and on.
And who would typically initiate the off?
Who would initiate the endings?
Definitely both of us.
Okay, it was mixed.
Yeah.
And then would it be mixed also for who would try to be like, let's get back together?
Would it be kind of mutual?
It was a lot of convincing on his end.
To like convincing you to go back.
Okay.
Now, when you say he was gay, was he bisexual or he's gay?
No, he's not gay.
I think he's sexistic occasionally.
Well, it's just, I went through his phone one day, saw DMs, and it was with a trans woman.
He said he was into everything.
And I was like, oh, okay.
Whoa, wait, okay.
But like, with a trans woman.
Yeah.
Okay.
But says he was into everything.
So that's like, like, I don't know what you would call that.
So was he cheating on you?
Oh, yeah.
That's how it was.
Was he having sex with a trans woman?
I don't know.
I never found that out.
Damn.
That's intense.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Question for you, though.
You guys were on and on again, off again quite a few times.
Yeah.
Did you stay with him or get back with him at any point after the revelation that he was banging transgender people?
No, I never got back with him.
I talked to him a little bit after it, but he cheated.
I mean, it's not like nothing of the sort of like weird or anything.
It's just he cheated.
The discovery of him being gay, that was the final straw.
The discovery that he cheated.
But like, I mean, the gay, yeah, that's a little like.
Yeah, I get the cheating, that's probably worse or whatever.
But like, no shame.
The game is game, but the game is game.
Yeah, but what does that mean?
Like, do you, honey?
But that's not my thing.
Yeah, you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
But you didn't stay with him after the revelation, the discovery of the gay thing.
Yeah, no.
All right.
You've been single for one year.
How long have you been in Santa Barbara for?
I just moved here three weeks ago.
Okay, so this is your first semester quarter at the Santa Barbara City College.
Yeah, I love it.
All right.
Any prospects, dating prospects since you moved here?
No, you know.
First semester in Santa Barbara, I'm not trying to date anybody.
Not trying to date?
Yeah.
Okay.
What's your orientation?
Straight, bisexual.
Oh, straight.
Straight.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
I'm single.
Single?
How long have you been single for?
For two years.
Two years.
Longest relationship?
Nine years.
Nine years?
Yeah.
Is that the one that ended two years ago?
Yeah.
Who broke up with who?
I broke up with him.
Nine year relationship.
So you guys were, wait, you guys were dating because you're 27.
All of our childhoods.
Wow.
Oh.
Interesting.
Any guys currently in the picture?
No.
Nothing?
No.
I mean, I really want to see a raccoon, so if a guy shows me a raccoon, then I'm going to go ahead and get away.
Mary, can you clear?
Can you clear the just click on the side area, please?
No, higher.
I'll come back at some point and fix it.
Okay.
No guys in the picture.
Nothing?
No.
I've been in a couple of dates, but they don't come in what I want.
I see.
Okay.
What about you?
Single.
All right.
How long have you been single for?
Like seven months.
Something like that.
Okay.
Longest relationship?
Like two years.
Two years.
Is that the one that ended seven months ago?
No.
No.
That was a okay.
That was a different one then.
How long was the one seven months ago?
Like four months, five months.
Okay.
And you said, though, in your pre-show notes that it's complicated, I think.
Is that right?
Are things complicated?
So are you seeing somebody?
Yes.
What does that mean?
I have a crush.
Yeah, what does that mean, though?
We hang out.
How long have you guys been hanging out for?
A number of months, I think.
Like three, maybe.
Okay.
And how often do you see him or hang out with him?
Like every day.
He's in our friend group.
Love him.
Oh, he's in the friend group.
Okay.
And are you guys exclusive?
I don't know.
Are you seeing other guys?
Mary, try clicking the empty space at the top on the split.
That should clear it.
No, I'm not.
The darker.
Let's tea.
So you're not seeing other guys.
Is he seeing other girls?
I don't know.
Would you be upset if he was?
Nope.
So you see him making out with some other girl at a frat party or something?
I'd be a little hurt, but I'd be sorry.
Would you still see him, though?
Yeah.
Okay.
He's like one of my closest friends.
Closest friends.
Yeah.
But you're single.
Do you want more?
I don't know.
You don't know?
I'm not sure.
Okay.
You're just riding the wave.
You're just riding the wave.
Just riding the wave.
Okay.
Yeah.
Are you on any dating apps?
Nope, I've never been.
Did you just do the shocka?
All right.
Amy, what about you?
I'm engaged.
All right.
How long have you guys been together?
Well, we worked together at Valutainment for over a year.
We worked on my show for a long time.
We were best friends.
We'd hang out every night planning stuff for my show.
But we started dating August of last year, and then he proposed in October.
So it was pretty quick, but we know each other very well.
Like I said, spent basically every day together for like a year before that.
Nice.
Okay.
And do you guys have a date planned for the wedding?
We're actually going to elope.
I'm not really a big believer in blowing a bunch of money on a wedding.
Kind of just want to start our lives together.
Probably between March to May, we're thinking.
We're just deciding where we want to be long term, where we want to live.
And then we're going to do that.
Yeah.
Well, Arizona's nice.
You moved down to the city.
Yeah, he's currently in Florida still.
And we haven't lived together, by the way.
So since I came on this show, I have taken the Christ pill.
I mean, I was already a Christian, but he's really leading me in that regard.
So like no sex before marriage, not living together, all of that.
That's interesting.
So you guys have been completely celibate?
Oh, wow.
Okay.
You guys definitely.
Are you guys?
What denomination of Christianity?
I'm Catholic.
He's Protestant.
Okay.
Hopefully, I can bring him over to my side.
Bring him over.
He loves Catholic Mass, honestly.
So I go to his church.
He comes to my church.
What kind of Protestant?
Is he like Presbyterian or Bethany?
I think it's more like non-denominational.
He goes to a really chill home church.
There's like maybe 100 people total in the congregation, but on an average night, like 30 to 40.
It's very chill.
Gotcha.
Okay.
All right.
Oh, you get a little red in the sky.
Kind of nice little sunset here.
Nice, nice.
What about you?
I'm exclusive with someone I've been seeing for the past three months.
All right.
So let's say relationship.
Or maybe, well, boyfriend.
Not boyfriend and girlfriend.
But exclusive.
Exclusive, yeah.
All right.
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Longest relationship?
Three years.
Three years.
Who broke up with who?
I broke up with him after finding out that he was seeing one of my friends.
Was it her?
No.
Was it a scouser?
Just the brother.
She was one of my close, like, school friends.
Yeah.
Can you do a scouse?
No, can I forget that?
You don't know how to do scousing.
Like Patty the Buddy.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way.
I was like, how did you know that?
He lost the fight yesterday.
Dana White.
Very disappointed.
You watched the fight?
Yeah, I didn't watch it.
I was going to watch it.
It was a good fight.
It was a good fight, but yeah, Patty just decently contested, I think.
Yeah.
It was a sad fight.
It was a sad fight.
How sad.
The other guy kept poking Patty in the eye.
That's right.
Two eye pokes and then I think there was a low blow that the ref missed.
Oh, yeah, there was kind of unfortunate.
Yeah, he did get it pretty bad.
Was it two eye pokes, I think?
Yeah, there was.
There's two.
Two eye pokes?
Or was it just one?
Those two.
Yeah, damn.
Anyways, yeah, unfortunately, yeah, baddie lost.
What about you?
I'm single.
All right.
How long have you been single for?
My only relationship was a year ago for like four months, but there have been a lot of situationships lately.
August, one year.
Lately.
Is there currently a guy in the picture now?
No.
No.
Okay.
I would say no.
No, not a guy in the picture.
I'm curious.
You know, I was thinking about here.
Actually, I'll let everybody do their intros.
Actually, you know what?
I'll just do it now.
You know, I was thinking like, you ask a girl if she's single.
tells you yes but i i think you can't really i mean this would go both ways if If, you know, you ask a guy if he's single, he tells you yes.
What does that mean?
What does that mean in 2026?
You're not fucking singing.
Oh, I'm single, but I'm like fucking three people.
Okay.
Well, that's helpful.
So I was like thinking, how can you ask the question to get to the bottom of what you're actually looking for?
In my case, if I'm interested in dating somebody, I need her undivided attention immediately.
She can't be like in a situationship talking to 300 dudes.
Like that can't, no.
After the first date, you want to deal with me, it has to be a wrap with the other guys.
I'm not going to deal with you like I'm going to be the fucking third choice or whatever.
No, it has to be a wrap.
So how do you ask the question to make a clear determination?
Because, you know, a girl tells you she's single, right?
Or a guy tells you he's single.
And he's fucking like five chicks or something.
You'd be like, what the fuck?
I mean, I would just ask, like, are you seeing anybody else?
I think you might not be dating.
Yeah, but just asking anyone.
I have a.
Tell me what you guys think of this.
I actually devise a sort of almost legalese method of how you can ask this.
So are you currently talking to, dating?
This would include casual hangouts, seeing, involved with, or maintaining contact with any other men.
Have you seen this face-to-face?
No, I'm not sure.
Whether casually or seriously, online or in person, including, but not limited to, texts, DMs, dating apps, or social media.
That's crazy.
I think that you have to ask that question.
Has this worked for you?
What do you mean?
Has that worked?
Does it work?
It's a new development, so I haven't employed it yet.
But I think that would work.
I think it's too much.
Why would it be too?
Because you're basically, it's like a contract.
Like, are you, you can ask, like, what your intentions are, but like.
Nah, I think you can be fucking someone else.
You got to be really explicit.
I don't think asking for talking or seeing anyone would get the message through.
I agree.
You're either talking, you're either texting, talking to someone, or you're seeing them and you're seeing them in person.
You know, I think the thing is, is people will use a little loophole.
Because in the same way that if I ask a girl if she's single and like all the women here, not all the women here, but we frequently will have people on the show say they're single, but they've been having consistent sex with a guy for a year.
Now, me going in, that I don't want to deal with a girl like that.
Like, I don't want to deal with a girl who's still hung up on her ex, who's still dealing with her ex, who's still fucking her ex, who's fucking one, two, three other guys.
I can't, I don't want any part of that.
Now, she can wrap things up with him and then come talk to me.
Then we can pursue something.
But I don't want to deal with a girl like, I mean, I don't even want to date a girl, but if we're going to have sex and you fucking another guy, no, that's that's I can't do that.
So you just don't enjoy dating.
What do you mean?
You don't you just said I don't want to date a girl?
I don't really date normally.
Oh, uh, so when was your last relationship?
Oh boy, we can get a little bit of a double-blind.
Well, I mean, I mean, you know, I have quite a bit of experience prior to when I started this podcast, but I would say I don't have the typical average guy dating experience anymore.
Can I ask if this show turned you off dating?
I can see that.
I mean, I've had bad, that's a good question, Amy.
I mean, I've had interesting experiences even prior to the show, but I mean, I've heard some pretty crazy things.
I've definitely been red-pilled and blackpilled on a lot of things I've heard on the show.
But no, I mean, I'm still, there's a lot of good women out there.
There's bad women too, but there's a lot of good women.
But I would say, like, honestly, I'm mostly just sourcing.
Like, honestly, girls are just DMing me.
So, like, I have.
So, I just not like, look, I've shot my shot here and there.
I'm not going to.
But I would say the majority of the people I've dated in the past three, four years, they've all approached me.
So, my situation is a bit unique.
I guess you got grippies.
I could see that.
I got grippies.
Grippies?
Grippies.
Grippies.
I thought you were talking about big labia matter.
You like it when the girl does the first move?
Yeah, I'm fine with it.
Yeah.
I mean, how else?
Okay, so if some like hot girl who lives across the country likes me, I'm not going to like randomly manifest knowing who that girl is.
So of course she would have to make the first move.
But I mean, throughout most of my life, I've consistently been the one making the first move.
But now that I'm in a position to be able to source from the girls who pick me, it's actually way better.
It's way better.
But no, if a girl like, I mean, don't, you got to approach it.
You can, a woman can make the first move in like and still be feminine.
And honestly, all she has to really do is, I mean, she should put in a fair amount of effort, right?
But she should, if she just shoots the DM, I can take the lead from there, basically.
So, yeah, I don't find some guys say, I don't even know if it's some guys say.
I think some women think, oh, if I make the first move, it'll be a turn off to the guy, which maybe that's the case sometimes.
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But most men would welcome and invite.
Look, don't be like, hey, want some pussy?
Like, be feminine, be pleasant.
You know, don't be like aggressive about it.
But yeah, I think most guys are totally open to women making the first move.
Let me continue on, though, with everybody.
Relationship status.
Relationship status, single?
Single?
Single.
Longest relationship?
I haven't been in like serious relationships.
Never been in a relationship.
Okay.
Well, how long have you been single?
Since I got to the United States.
Where are you from?
I'm from Bangladesh.
I'm South Asia.
Bangladesh.
Okay.
We have a very international.
We got Russia, Bangladesh, Israel, the UK, Scotland, Australia.
We got more international people.
Yeah.
American-American, American-American.
We outnumber you.
Outnumbered at the table.
Okay.
So you've never had a boyfriend?
No, no, never.
What's the longest period of time you've seen a guy?
Seen a guy longest period of time?
I don't, like it's because of the cultural thing, you know?
We don't really, we just get married.
Wait, when did you move to the U.S.?
When I was 14.
14.
So you've been here for 10 years?
10 years, yes.
Okay.
Do you have citizenship?
Yeah, I do.
Okay, like you got, how's the process?
You get your green card?
So I came here when I was 12 for the first time just to visit the States.
And because I was so young, I got the citizenship in like six months.
And my dad was here for like 20 years or something.
Before, wait.
Okay, so your dad moved here before you moved here?
Yeah, my dad moved here before I was even like born.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so my mom got pregnant and then he just moved here.
Is your mom here?
No, they're in New York.
They're in the U.S., yeah.
And they're both Bangladeshi.
Yeah, they're both family.
But the country used to be East Pakistan when they were like kids, yeah.
Okay, gotcha.
Sorry, longest consecutive period of time you've dated a guy or seen him?
I haven't dated.
Have you gone on a date with a guy?
Yeah, I have been too many dates, yeah.
Okay, well, what's the longest life?
Have I spoken to someone?
Yeah, like a month, two months, three months?
I kept in touch with everyone.
So we're all friends, I guess you would say.
Well, okay, I understand that some women maintain men in the friend zone.
But what I'm asking you is the longest period of time that you've hold on.
You could say three, four months.
The max.
Three, four months, yes.
Okay.
Have you ever said I love you to anybody?
No.
To a guy, anyways.
Are you a virgin?
No, I have two kids.
Guy, I can tell them.
Just kids.
That's all.
Two different fathers?
No, they're the same father.
White guy?
No, he's black.
Black guy.
I'm from Miami, so we only have black and Hispanic.
Oh, there's white guys.
Well, there is.
Some white guys, maybe.
Where I'm from, where I'm from, I mostly encounter Hispanic and black guys.
What part of Miami?
I am from Miami, Dade.
I cannot say exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's totally fine.
Okay, so you have two kids with the same guy, but you just said you've only seen.
We're just hooking up.
So pregnancy takes nine months.
If you have two kids from the same guy, wouldn't it stand to reason that this man was in the picture for at least 10 months now?
he was in the picture for a couple of years yeah but you said you've only but we're not like we're not exclusive That's what I'm saying.
We're not exclusive.
We just have children together.
Okay, but here, when did, you're 24.
At what age did you meet him?
20 when I was 20.
When I graduated college.
Okay, when's the last time you hung out with him?
I see him all the time.
I mean, I have kids with him.
Did you live with him?
Yes, I do live with him.
It's just so we can co-parent.
Okay, when's the last time you had sex with him, I guess?
I can't answer that question.
That is super personal.
I'm sorry.
That is super personal.
Aren't you an OnlyFans girl?
I mean, isn't this pretty tough?
Hey, different personality you have to deal with, right?
That's part of the twin.
Well, but I mean, I'm trying to establish here.
The reason I ask a question, I don't frankly don't ask.
Don't ask away.
Ask away.
But it's like you said.
It was before this birth of my son, which my son was born in March last year.
So were you on birth control?
When I was pregnant?
I literally was pregnant last year.
Well, but like when you were having sex with men, were you pregnant on birth control?
No, no.
So, okay.
And Like, was it like an unintended, unplanned pregnancy, or were you just letting this?
No, I didn't want kids.
I wanted kids early.
I wanted to be a young mom.
Hold on.
So she could be a good example for her kids, right?
Being on the fonts model.
Exactly that.
Who?
Wait, so okay.
So you live in the same house with the father?
No, we're not having sex if that's what you're talking about.
No, I'm moving off the middle.
Okay, we're moved on a bit.
Do you not want a relationship with the guy?
I'm a bit confused.
relationships are not simple you know so but at no point um what do your your bangladeshi parents think of your situation They just really don't care.
They give me the independence to pick who I want to be with.
They're pretty supportive over it.
As long as I'm good and happy, that's all they care about.
They're not like the typical super strict things.
You'll have to excuse my ignorance.
Are Bangladeshis, are they Hindu or are they Muslims?
So let me explain this.
So Bangladesh is in the south of Asia.
You know where that is, right?
Asia is a continent.
Like Chinese, Japanese people, they're like East Asian, I believe.
So we're on the South of Asia, and the South of Asia has three countries, I believe.
It's like India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.
So like the whole thing used to be India, and then it divided into India and Pakistan for religious reason, I believe, because Indians are Hindus.
Indians, India is like a Hindu-based country, and Pakistan is like Muslims.
I'm just asking if you're Hindu or I don't need that.
Okay, okay.
Are you Hindu?
Are you Muslim?
Are you focusing on the people?
I don't follow like a particular religion, but I do believe I'm culturally Muslim, culturally, because I celebrate, you know, with my family.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, but you don't.
I don't really know.
I know the religion.
Not by the book, no.
Okay.
All right.
Okay, two kids.
And the co-parenting is going well?
Very well.
Co-Parenting and Support 00:10:13
Okay.
All right.
Do you want more kids?
I do, but since they're babies right now, I can't really think of any more kids.
But I originally wanted four before I did.
All right.
What about you?
I have been with my husband for 15 years, and we will be celebrating our 14th wedding anniversary in the spring.
And we have three kids.
Congratulations.
So teaching.
All right.
Three, two.
I assume that's your longest relationship.
Three kids.
All right.
I'm assuming the three kids are from your husband.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
What about you?
So I'm single now.
I was married for the last 11 years with American men.
And we get divorced last year.
So you've been single for one year?
A little less than a year.
Okay.
And you were married for 11 years, you said?
Officially 10, but.
Together.
Yeah, but together.
Is this your longest relationship?
Okay.
And then when did you move to the United States?
It was 2015.
2015.
So okay, you've been here.
10 years.
Yeah, I do have my citizenship.
Through your husband?
Of course.
Yeah, American men bring me here.
And then you divorced him.
Yeah.
No, I didn't divorce.
I mean, it was not my choice.
Who initiated the divorce?
So.
It was our decision.
So he just How about this on the paperwork who initiated the divorce?
Me.
Okay.
What was the cited reason for the divorce?
Just well, we've been together for so long, and we just start realizing that we have, we start having, like, last couple years, we start having different goals.
And he wants to do his thing.
Which was what?
What did he want to do?
I don't know if I can talk about him because I don't want him to feel uncomfortable because I respect him and I love him.
We are best friends, actually.
Like, we.
Do you have kids?
Yes, we have a daughter.
She's going to be nine.
Okay.
No other kids, though?
No, no, just one child.
I see.
And we would say he's my best friend, Justin.
I know you're watching this.
And I'm happy that we have such a decent relationship.
I'm so proud of our marriage and the way how we handle our separation.
I still love you, you, my family.
Okay.
Does he pay you alimony?
Yeah, of course.
It's just American laws.
He has to pay.
Well, does he, are you guys living in the same city?
Well, he's visiting us in Denver every once in a while, but he's traveled a lot for work.
Where does he live?
State.
You don't have to stay in the state.
Arkansas.
Arkansas.
So he's pretty conservative.
I mean, I don't know.
When did you move to Colorado?
A few months ago.
That summer.
So you have full custody of your child?
No, it's not whole custody.
It's 50-50.
But you guys live in a different state.
Wait.
Yeah.
Isn't Arkansas like way the fuck?
Hold on, let me pull up a map of it.
Sorry, it's just Arkansas is not my bread and butter.
It's on the border of Texas.
It's really on the border of Texas.
Hold on.
Just map USA.
Sorry.
My geography.
Sorry, Arkansas.
I don't fucking remember where we are.
Have you ever been in Arkansas?
Yeah, Colorado.
You don't know your own time.
Colorado.
Yeah, okay.
I knew the general location of Arkansas.
It's a bit that way of Kansas.
So, okay, but it's like, what?
It's a plane fly away, you know?
So how often does he see the kid or will see the kid, I guess?
Every month, I would say.
Once a month?
Maybe a little bit.
Did he want you to stay, or what happened there?
Where?
Like, stay.
Ah, no.
Because obviously, if you've got a kid, it complicates the custody.
He doesn't want to stay in Arkansas.
His residence was there, but since he traveled a lot, and he's working most of the time at this area, because he's working in an oil industry, working in an oil industry.
So he's like a blue collar man.
And he's working like Wyoming, Colorado, pretty much this area.
So when I decided to move to Colorado, he said, actually, it was because of his job.
When we get divorced, he's like, hey, you know, I know you love mountains, so you want to go to Colorado.
So you're going to have a place there.
And I can see Kaya and I can spend time with her because I'm going to work there and you're going to be there and I can see y'all everyone.
I was like, sure, yeah.
And that's what I did.
Interesting.
Okay.
Huh.
Okay.
So he pays you child support and alimony.
Yeah.
Was he a like, is he a wealthy guy?
Was or now?
Both, I guess.
When we married, he was not a wealthy guy.
He was in the military and he actually quit the military and he was like, he didn't have a job for a while.
Then he go to his academy and got his whatever.
And then the curious about the alimony.
So is he, how long does he have to pay you alimony for?
It's, I think it's a three and a half years or something, or four.
I don't remember.
Three and a half, four, four years.
Okay.
Four.
Not longer.
Because I know, I think once you've been married for a long enough period of time, I think sometimes you might even have to pay for life even, which no, I don't think so.
No, it only he can pay me for life if I would be disabled, which I'm not.
But if I start dating, no, not dating.
I think if I get remarried again, so he will stop.
Like if I'm going to remarry the next four years, so you're not going to pay me alimony anymore.
Oh, if you get remarried.
Yeah, yeah.
So he's not going to pay anymore.
How much does he pay you per month?
I'm not going to say that because I cannot.
We have some kind of we sign contract.
Yes, we sign that and I cannot talk about that.
Huh.
You make him sign that.
Yeah, yeah, I get it.
NDA or whatever.
It's not like something crazy.
I mean, it's okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know about the alimony.
I don't think people should pay alimony.
You don't think?
Why?
No.
No, it's like.
No, he's paying me because I'm a wife, right?
And yeah, I agree because why would he pay me?
You're looking after the child.
Well, child support.
Child support and alimony.
Or is it definitely?
Well, child support is something different.
So, for example, you could be married and never have children and still have to pay the other person alimony.
Yeah.
A child?
Not even that.
What actually is alimony, though?
So alimony is, it's another term for it is spousal support.
Say you've been married to somebody for 10 years.
Whether you have children or not, whoever makes the most money, you would have to pay the other person spousal support for months, years, and it often depends on how long you've been married.
I personally think...
What?
Is this her every moment?
That's not true.
Like everyone?
Pretty much.
I think because there's a lot of women that don't work when they're in a relationship with a guy, and then once they break up, then they're left with nothing.
So sometimes, but I've, you know.
Look, I think I have heard some, there are some instances where you could make the argument that alimony is justified.
But the current laws, it's basically, it doesn't even factor in situations where, for example, let's say a woman, you get married to her, and say she's a lawyer, and she maintains her career through the course of the marriage, and she doesn't like stop or anything to take care of the husband, and you never have kids.
You've been married for 10 years.
She marries a guy who makes $5 million a year.
She's going to get a fuck ton of alimony, even though she was essentially just in a relationship with a guy.
That's completely bullshit.
There is a compelling argument to be made in an instance where, okay, she gave up her career and she stopped going to college and she wasn't working at all and she didn't do anything to develop these skills.
Even then, I'm still a little on the fence with alimony, but like at least it's compelling to the point where it's like it kind of makes sense a little bit.
Like, okay, help the woman out.
But it's like, in some instances, it's like that's kind of bullshit.
Yeah, I agree.
And then also, it's like, what if she just ends the marriage just out of the marriage?
Well, if she cheats.
Yeah, if she cheats, you still pay alimony.
Wow.
That is not a thing.
The laws are really rigged against men, and honestly, it's put society in a place where men really don't want to get married, especially to American women, unfortunately.
Yep.
And so I think that's why you're seeing prenups become a lot more common.
I'm going to sign a prenup.
I'm more than happy to do it.
We're going to structure it so that my fiancé owns the YouTube business too because we left to go independent.
He makes substantially more than me.
But we're building up my YouTube together now.
And so we're going to position it so that he essentially owns that.
And not because we ever planned to separate, but just so he has that peace of mind.
I never want him to worry.
That's good.
That's crazy, though.
Oath of Allegiance 00:15:17
I didn't know you guys did that either.
There might be some.
I don't know that either.
We have children.
Yes, they don't have that in Russia.
Nobody pay element of school.
They're only paying child support.
That's it.
Same as the UK.
Yeah.
Yeah, the United States is completely cooked on this.
I mean, there's, there's.
It's totally school.
What's that?
Why do they not teach this?
Yeah.
Because it would incentivize women to probably do it more.
And a lot of women marry for that reason, to be honest.
Like, they really are getting married for the wrong reason so that they can rip a guy off.
Did you guys hear about it?
It was like that, he was like an NFL player, some type of professional athlete, and essentially she married him, divorced him to try to take half of his assets, but he had structured it in a way where everything went through his mother.
It was all in his mother's name, and so she got nothing in the end.
I know what you're talking about.
Good for him.
Good for him, honestly.
He was protecting his assets.
I mean, yeah, it's like, look, she wasn't kicking the field goals.
She wasn't.
Who was it?
Yeah, why should she kick him?
I think it was a soccer player.
So he wasn't kicking the soccer ball.
Football.
Fox.
Soccer ball.
Football.
Yeah.
Well, because we have some international people here who, but just curious, like, you have your U.S. citizenship, right?
Yeah, you said you got in like six months.
I do have a question I want to ask related to this.
Okay, hold on.
Let me pull it up.
I don't want to like fuck it up.
Actually, first, while I'm trying to find it.
Oh, no, I got it.
Okay.
So I guess I can also ask the United States citizens.
How about this?
I'll ask the international people first.
Well, international people who like live here.
So in a morally neutral, blame-free hypothetical conflict between the United States and the country of your birth, the country of your origin, let's say where neither side is right or wrong.
To which country is your allegiance starting with you?
My mother told me that they're going to ask you about it on this podcast.
Wow.
She was right.
I was like, mom, why would they bring politics?
Anyway, I'm American citizen and my child is American citizen.
And my husband, I mean, ex-husband, also American.
I love Russia.
This is my motherland.
But you just, you ask me, I have to choose between them between.
If you had to pick one.
This isn't to say that.
Well, yeah, just answer, I guess.
That's hard.
I don't think.
Are you a citizen of the United States?
Yes, I am.
Now, did you naturalize?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
Here, let's come back to you.
What about you?
I'd say the United States.
The United States.
Yeah, and that's because this is where, you know, I found the best quality of life.
Okay.
So I would.
So the U.S. going to war with Bangladesh.
Fucking dropping nukes and shit.
No, I'm just kidding.
Not nukes.
So, okay, you side with the United States.
I would side with the strongest army.
Okay.
The country that has the strongest army yet.
What about you?
Israel and the United States are friends, so I hope they never.
Well, luckily in this situation, hypotheticals alleviate the need to.
Oh my God, am I going to be autistic about this?
Because the hypothetical alleviates the need to consider what the current state of affairs are between the United States and Israel.
So in this hypothetical, there happens to be a conflict between the United States and Israel.
In this circumstance, to which country is your allegiance?
And do you have the United States citizenship?
Yeah, my parents are American, so I am American citizen as well, but my family is in Israel currently, so I guess I would go for where my family is.
But also depends on the reason of the war.
What makes more sense?
Well, so again, in the hypothetical, it's a morally neutral, blank free.
No reason.
So, Israel.
Okay.
Don't hit on me.
You have your U.S. citizenship?
Working on residency, but I'm America first, 100%.
Australia has been crazying up to China for quite some time.
It is slowly descending into a socialist hellhole.
And I truly believe that the freedom of the West rises and falls on the United States.
America first.
Well played.
So you would just, if you could join the military, Amy, you just go over there and like fuck up a bunch of kangaroos?
I don't think women should serve in the military.
Okay, that's fair.
You would.
But I side with America 100% in every instance.
I love Australia.
I love my home country.
But unfortunately, it has been hijacked by international interests.
Fortunately, United States, kind of the same, but I hope that it does not stay that way.
Do we get rid of Perth first, or what do you think?
Why Perth?
I don't know.
I feel like.
I was actually born in Perth, so it's funny you say that.
Do we get rid of like Brisbane?
Brisbane?
Brisbane first?
Where do we get rid of first if we do go to war with Australia?
Like the strategically?
The Northern Territory.
Listen, the Northern Territory out in the middle of nowhere.
Bomber's rock.
I'm not sure.
What do you think?
Okay, whatever.
Going back to you, what's your answer?
Russia or the United States?
No, I cannot do that.
Why I have to pick one?
You have to pick.
You got to pick one.
What if I will not pick?
You got to pick.
well okay how about this could it be i think it's actually conceivable that you know within the next 10 20 30 40 years there is major military conflict between the uh major powers in the world uh i could see a conflict with china I could see a conflict with Russia.
Let me ask a question.
Why did you leave Russia?
Because I fell in love with American men, and that's why.
And I being a traditional woman, I would say, and kind of, I don't know, I don't want to say submissive, but anyway, he's my husband.
So whatever he decides, and we go to America.
Not because of that.
So what's your answer, though?
If you had to pick.
I mean, do you have plan, like, you're going to go.
Do you go back to Russia?
When's the last time you've been in Russia?
Last year, I spent six months.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so which one?
Can I not pick, please?
Well, obviously I can't force you to say anything.
I can ask you again.
America Oh, okay.
A little hesitation there.
Mary, really quick, pull up the allegiance thing, the Wikipedia.
Just really quick.
The oath of allegiance.
As a reminder, naturalized citizens, in order to become citizens of the United States, need to take this oath.
Can you mouse wheel, zoom in a little bit?
Oh, actually, you know what?
Yeah, just zoom out.
I hereby declare on oath that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen.
That I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law.
That I will perform.
Anyways, you get the idea.
But basically, you have to renounce, not just them.
I guess I should say the right thing, which is Russia.
I don't know, your hesitation there.
Lol, you know, you did have to give the oath.
Did you do that oath?
Remember the oath?
Because it depends on who you married.
That's it.
Wait, what?
Well, you still have to do the oath, right?
Did you do the oath?
Okay, yeah.
Did you take the oath?
I'm fucking spitting over here shouldn't you shouldn't you just immediately yeah but I have a dual citizenship right I have two passports.
I have America.
That didn't stop you when you're going to actually secure your citizenship to the U.S. When you put your hand on the Constitution, and I assume it's a Constitution, or maybe they use a Bible.
I'm not really sure.
You probably said it quite freely then.
I don't know.
Just kind of interesting to notice.
I don't think it means anything, to be honest with you, because it just doesn't mean anything.
Bureaucracy is going to be aware of that.
Get that fuck out of our country.
That's crazy.
It doesn't mean anything.
The oath of allegiance doesn't mean anything.
By virtue of you saying the oath of allegiance, that is precisely what has granted you the ability to access the prosperity of our nation.
Back to Babushka, Russia, you go.
So what is my responsibility?
Okay, let me ask you this.
What is my responsibility as American citizen?
What should I do?
I mean, it literally says you need to even fire a gun if they require you to.
I'm not going to fire guns.
Oh, you have to fire a gun.
They can force you.
But let's say you forced me to fire a gun.
The government can definitely force you to do things.
I was born with American citizenship.
I didn't have to do anything for it.
Well, so the oath of allegiance doesn't apply to you because you were born with an American citizenship.
However, in order to naturalize, you have to make an affirmative oath of allegiance to the United States.
So all these immigrants who come here from all these countries, if you want to naturalize, you want to gain citizenship, you have to, you read that oath.
Like there's a ceremony where you read it.
I think you put your hand.
I don't know if they do the hand thing.
That's kind of secondary.
But I didn't do it, so I never agreed to it.
Were you born here?
Well, no, my parents aren't.
So there is a, so, but I'm not really making this argument for, well, just born citizens, because you're right.
You don't have to make an oath as a citizen.
You should, as a matter of fact, if you do live here most of your life, or well, year and a half.
All right, I mean, look, it makes sense.
But my argument, as it relates to the oath of allegiance, wouldn't apply to you.
However, you're not going to be able to tell me it doesn't apply to her.
Right, but I'm good.
It should apply to her.
I'm not talking to you.
I'm talking to naturalized U.S. citizens or immigrants.
Right, I agree.
And it's like, how is it that y'all want to move here?
Y'all want to live here?
You do live here.
You enjoy the benefits of the prosperity of this nation, the benefits of the freedom of this nation, but you lie.
You lie on the oath?
Right.
Or you're milquetoast about it.
That's fucked up, man.
Milk toast.
It's crazy.
I'm just saying.
Israel gets an exception.
What do you mean?
Like, it's just fascinating that, you know, you didn't go through the same process.
I understand my parents are from here.
My parents are American.
Yeah.
That's how it works.
Well, that would you have citizenship.
That would apply to you.
My grandparents are American.
Any country, anyway.
Oh, any country.
Well, you were born here in the U.S., right?
No.
She was born in U.S.
I was born in Israel.
I moved here only a year and a half.
Your parents are American citizens.
Yeah.
Yeah, so she, if you're born overseas, but both your parents are American citizens, like she's not an immigrant.
She was born overseas.
For example, I wasn't born in the U.S.
I was born in France.
But both, well, my mom, at least, is an American citizen.
But I was immediately not.
I had to go through paperwork and stuff still.
But I'm not.
Yeah, I was basically a citizen, but you know, for example, let's say you were born on a military base in another country.
Both your parents are American citizens.
You are an American citizen, even if you're born.
So if France and America goes to war, you'll take America's side.
Yeah, yeah.
But to be clear, though, that's not to say that, for example, if France went to war with another European country, that I maybe wouldn't prefer, that I would, you know, side with the other country.
But yes, even though I was born in France, America first.
America first, absolutely.
I was born in France.
I lived there for five years.
Look, I want good things for France.
France and many other European countries are in really bad shape right now.
I know we got into this last time, but these European countries are completely being taken over.
No, they're completely the completely being taken over.
And I want good things for France.
And I hope, you know, all these European countries, France included, can get that shit figured out because I don't, I don't, I remember when I went to the Eiffel Tower as a kid, there weren't military, there wasn't military posted up with.
There's always been military at the Eiffel Tower.
No, there weren't like gender Marie and police posted up at the Eiffel Tower.
There's always been military at the airport, at Eiffel Tower Airport.
They're France.
Always.
Really?
You're an expert on the military status of yes, but I go to Paris quite a lot.
How old are you?
I'm 27.
Okay, so I'm 36.
So when I was a kid, so this is back in the 90s, going to the Eiffel Tower, there were not all these military people stationed everywhere with firearms because the Eiffel Tower would be a very desirable place, let's say, for a terrorist attack.
So when I was a kid, that wasn't the case.
But do you think that's because of immigrants?
Do you think that's because of emigrants?
Would you not argue that the you think native, just to be clear, Charlie Hebdo, was it like French?
Well, I guess a lot of these people immigrated and then their kids could have been born in France.
Let's say like the best term I would use, native French.
Do you think the perpetrators of the Charlie Hebdo attack were like 10th generational Frenchmen?
No, but you could argue as well that even like in the United States, your security levels, your gun levels, everything went up after 9-11.
What does that have to do with that?
So like, obviously there's going to be more security at public places after more tragedies happen.
It's not because there's emigrants there.
It's just because more bad things happen in the world.
Because there's more immigrants.
But not all crime is for immigrants.
Most.
Yeah.
So there's a lot of cultures that are just fundamentally incompatible with the West.
And that has had a very detrimental effect over many of these countries.
I disagree.
Especially not Scotland.
Different Opinions, Deadly Consequences 00:11:45
No immigrant problem in Scotland.
What about that girl?
Go and fill up your stuff.
Excuse me.
What about that young girl who was 14 years old who had to wield a weapon to get immigrants away from her, who was sexually harassing her and her sister?
Is this in Scotland?
Yes, it was in Scotland.
Have you been to England recently?
Yes, I'm pretty sure.
And you don't see what's going on there?
No, so England's national dish has always been chicken tikka masala.
We've always had immigrants.
We've always been okay with immigrants.
There's no problem with immigrants in the UK.
It's just propaganda.
They're taking over.
That's propaganda.
They're not taking over.
They're not.
Especially.
I'm not from England.
I don't give a fuck about England.
I don't care anything to do with England.
Never have.
Scotland has no immigrant problem.
There was actually people tried to protest against immigrants in Glasgow.
And I think maybe five people showed up and thousands showed up opposing them.
We are fine with that.
I don't know about Scotland, but I'm talking about England.
I like Indian food too.
That doesn't mean that there isn't invasions occurring in all of these countries.
Literally, a young 14-year-old girl had to brandish a weapon to get these immigrants away from trying to rape her in her central.
She's a shit.
Can we talk about how many rape cases happen in Scotland and happen in Ireland and happen in England that are white men that don't go on record?
But because one thing happened with one thing?
Have you heard about the grooming gangs in the UK?
Of course I have.
Do you know the biggest grooming gang in London is white people?
And those are the people who end up getting prosecuted.
And in fact, when you look at the records of several of these immigrants, they actually put them down as white or some other culture to mess with the statistics of it.
No, this is very much the biggest pedophile gang in London were white people.
Okay, but are you denying that there's Pakistani grooming gangs in the UK?
And you know what?
Right now in the UK, there are people who are literally being arrested for posting about these grooming gangs, for calling out these people, these child abusers.
We live there.
We live there, girl.
This is all propaganda that they sell to you guys.
Listen, I'm there.
I've posted shit against hundreds of people.
I've never been arrested.
Do you know why these people are being arrested?
There's been over 1,200 arrests.
Someone was arrested because they said, you know what?
The immigrants live in this hotel.
Let's go put it on fire.
It's not about doxing them.
No.
She went on fire.
That's why she was.
No, you're more likely to actually cop a charge for speaking out about this versus the person who's perpetrating the crime.
You have so much cognitive dissonance right now.
It's insane.
And I can speak personally from Australia.
I have not been there in 10 years, but my family is there.
People are there.
And there was actually a video that circulated, I believe it was on New Year's in Sydney, with thousands of people walking around.
And you are hard-pressed to spot out an Australian person, a white Australian in that group.
No, it's true.
It's diluting culture.
And there are cultures that are fundamentally incompatible because in some religions, they believe it's okay to have sex with girls who are underage.
They think it's okay to, you know, take all of this government assistance.
So is it just the people of different skin tone that you're having issue with?
Not necessarily the Irish people.
It's people.
The Scottish people.
It's the cultures.
It's the cultures that are fundamentally incompatible.
Religiously, sexually, in many other ways as well.
So just like Muslims?
Not just Muslims.
I would say that it's any culture that essentially thinks it's okay to.
I would like to argue that there's so many different people in different cultures.
There's so many Christians that are awful people.
There's so many Muslims that are awful people.
There's Sikhs that are awful people.
Yeah, but there's percentage.
Like you can tell what is more.
What about gun crime in America?
White Christians.
It's percentage?
The most gun crimes are perpetrated by black people, actually.
Look at the percentage.
It's not a white.
What about school shootings?
White people.
What did you say, sorry?
What about school shittins?
White people.
I mean, usually those people are jacked up on SSRIs or they're like trannies.
And I also have a huge problem with them as well.
So we can talk about that too.
Is that true?
Yes, it is.
I mean, there's so many different examples.
Most of the people are either jacked up on SSRIs or it's a trans.
I mean, even look at Charlie Kirk shooter.
If you believe the official narrative, it was the boyfriend of a furry.
It was somebody from the LGBTQ community.
And they've gone.
It's true.
Do you not know about this?
I don't even know if I believe the official narrative, but the story that they are feeding us because it's so believable.
Yeah.
A furry?
Furry.
What do you say?
F in LGBTQ.
No.
So it's not part.
Well, they're one, they were gay together.
It was a man and a man, and the boyfriend of the murderer of Charlie Kirk Tyler Robinson was with a guy called Lance Figry.
I think that he's ridiculous.
Yes, the official narrative.
Yes, the official narrative is that they took issue with Charlie Kirk's stance against the LGBT community.
That is the narrative that's being fed to us.
And the reason why they're feeding us that is because it's so believable because so many school shootings are in fact perpetrated and shootings in general are in fact perpetrated by people from the LGBTQ community.
It's true.
I'm sorry.
It's true.
I'm not going to argue with you that gay people love guns.
Like, that's crazy.
I mean, Americans in general love guns.
We have the Second Amendment.
And thank goodness.
I mean, Australia lost the right to bear arms in the 90s.
And that was a huge mistake.
The fact that someone has to go and shoot someone just because he has different opinions is crazy.
That is crazy.
You guys shouldn't be able to do that.
No, you shouldn't.
I'm not saying that that grants you the right to shoot someone because they have a different opinion.
You have the right to bear arms to defend yourself.
I'm just saying.
Why are you so bothering me?
Why are you like spewing rhetoric that makes no sense?
Your level of cognitive dissonance is insane.
And in Scotland, there was one singular school shooting, okay?
One in the 90s.
After that school shooting, no more guns.
Okay.
Okay, but now just young 14-year-old girls need to defend themselves with knives against these immigrants.
So I mean, they're tracking myself.
What a fucking person, mate.
Do you know how many white boys rape in Scotland?
Do you know how many white boys rape and kill in Scotland and rape and kill in Ireland?
I mean, and obviously, England is not.
I'm not citizen.
That's like a what about?
It's got a what about is exactly?
Yes, it is, but just because, like you can't argue with one stat that because one immigrant, one lady, a one little girl had to fight off an immigrant, obviously it's reflective of a broader problem in the society.
There's not, there's genuinely.
I could show you pictures of like of Glasgow, and it's literally Palestine flags with Scotland flags mixed together.
We're so fine with immigrants, we're so fine with all that.
We don't care, don't?
I don't care about England, England's maybe a different story.
Don't take anything.
No idea, bro.
You support Palestine.
Countries are flying.
I do support Palestine really, I take in Palestine.
Do you think if you would walk like that, though?
I just don't think people should die in a world.
What do you think if you would walk like that?
What would they do?
If you walk like that in Israel, no one would do anything.
I wouldn't go to Israel.
I wouldn't go to Palestine.
I wouldn't go to these places.
Why not?
So how can you say you should die?
How can you have an opinion if you wouldn't even go and visit there?
Because I can have an opinion without anywhere.
Respectfully, you don't know what you're saying if you weren't there.
I've literally been.
I'm just saying I don't think anyone should die.
I don't think Israelis should die.
I don't think Palestinians should die.
Of course, but there's much more.
There's much more to it than dying.
Like, of course, no one wants to die.
You know, like, it's not legal anywhere, but it's a diversity.
I'm saying to kill someone.
I'm saying you can't take a side if you don't know enough about the conflict.
I know.
I know some stuff.
I'm fine with taking Palestine's side.
I just feel like Western cultures have been propagandized to accept these things out of empathy.
And in fact, I think, was it Charlie Kirk?
No, it wasn't.
But somebody termed it like suicidal empathy.
That's what we have, where we feel so sorry for these marginalized groups of people to the point that it's to our detriment.
So we feel sorry for people dying in a war?
That's what we're saying.
We really had people dying in the war.
Yeah, that's horrible.
So why are you taking Palestine's side?
I'm just taking Palestine's side.
Why?
Because I feel like I want to take Palestine's side.
I don't want to get into it because obviously, like, I'm in America, right?
You guys.
Well, they have different.
People in Scotland have different opinions.
It's just hard to hear you take a side without having information about it.
That's absolutely fine.
There's also a difference between a war and a genocide.
Yeah.
And it's not a genocide.
Well, that's.
I've agreed with everything else you've said up until this point, but on that, I fundamentally disagree.
Gaza has been essentially wiped off the map.
It has.
It's a genocide.
It's not a genocide.
It is.
There's no.
I mean, a lot of leaders on the world stage have now called it out as a genocide.
Bibi Netanyahu is a wanted international war criminal.
In fact, many of these countries have said that if he goes there, they will simply arrest him.
Scotland is one of them.
Sir, I agree with you on everything else you said.
I agree with you on that thing that you just said, but maybe it's getting a little bit too political for a dating show.
I'm not sure.
No, he wants us.
He loves this.
You like this, Brian?
Not really.
Okay, shall we talk about dating?
I have a lot to say, but I don't think this is the topic.
Would any of you guys.
We can have different opinions.
That's absolutely.
I have a question.
Very important.
Would you guys have sex with Vladimir Putin to prevent World War III?
For sure.
Very important.
Absolutely.
I would definitely have to.
You do love an older man.
You do it for free.
Chairman.
Go ahead.
Oh, no, I wasn't saying anything.
I wasn't saying anything.
No, she's saying that.
She's asking you the question.
No.
What type of a question is this?
I would if it was to prevent World War III.
W, next.
I mean, yeah.
Kind of have to.
Yeah.
I mean, I have to.
Listen, World War III means like nuclear weapons and the whole world will fundamentally cease to exist.
Like human beings will go extinct, I believe.
It's a high probability if we go into World War III.
So I guess with the permission of my husband, I mean, this is insane, though.
This is a crazy question.
How would your husband feel about that?
Well, that's what I'd say.
It would be with his.
Do you think he would?
I don't.
It's hard to say.
I don't think I can speak for him, but the stakes are so high right now.
It's either infidelity, which is a sin in the Bible, or it's save the world.
The world is.
Let's say you're single.
Pretend you're single.
If I was single?
I guess.
That's such a crazy question, though, girl.
Oh, my gosh.
You're saving the world though.
You gotta fight God.
You can be the hero of our time.
Yeah, you could be.
There is no situation that this would actually happen.
It's such a ridiculous hypothetical.
Yeah.
Ollie, would you like to be able to do that?
But why Vladimir Putin?
Why he?
I don't think it depends on him.
Because I said Trump last time and I just wanted to switch it up.
Okay.
Russia's kind of base though, to be honest.
I mean, they said that they want to bring more Christian immigrants to Russia, which is interesting.
And they're actually expelling all Satanists from Russia, which is pretty cool.
Why Make It Illegal? 00:05:32
They made it actually illegal to be a Satanist over there.
So W Russia.
Someone who's in the church of Satan.
We actually saw one today when I was at a coffee shop with my fiancé earlier.
It was a woman wearing a shirt with ball on it, like satanic imagery, and it said, not today, Jesus.
And she literally looked like she was under demonic possession.
So W Russia for that, honestly.
That's kind of cool.
Well, Russia banned a lot of stuff, like LGBT, transgenderism, based.
Something else.
Like, there's lots of stuff that could be illegal here in the United States is illegal in Russia.
And I mean, fundamentally, you know, we have First Amendment, we have freedom to speech, we have freedom in the U.S.
And I think that that is great.
I don't think that things should necessarily be legally imposed.
I wouldn't want that necessarily here in the U.S., but I think it should be socially discouraged, and there should be a lot more shame around these things.
I think we need to bring shame back due to the suicidal empathy that I was mentioning a little bit earlier.
Well, you think you have freedom of speech here?
Much more than any other country in the world.
I mean, even in Australia, they have now started arresting people.
They've imposed hate speech laws following the Bondi Beach shooting that happened out there.
It's now illegal to speak poorly of any Israeli citizen or any Israel in general, actually.
What do you think about that, by the way?
Do you think it should be illegal to speak negatively about Israel or Bibi Netanyahu?
don't know how you can control what people will speak but the terrorist attack that happened there was insane like but do you it's not something you should just well it was a false flag but do you think that it should therefore result in people not being able to say anything negative about israel Like, for example, if what she was saying earlier about Free Palestine, she sides with the Palestinians, I said that the war is actually a genocide.
Do you think that should be illegal to say?
Yes, because it's not true.
But I don't think you can control what people will say.
But you think you should be able to.
You should be able to what?
Control what people say.
Because you just said you think it should be illegal for people to speak about BB or say that the war is a genocide.
Or do you just feel like it should be socially discouraged?
I feel like everyone could have their own opinion, but I feel like it's wrong to think that when you don't have enough information.
What if you do have enough information?
If you think that you don't have enough information.
I mean, there's also an argument to be made about people who've been propagandized.
And obviously, the United States is best friends with Israel.
I live in Israel.
I know what's going on there.
Do you just live in Palestine?
Scotland.
And you were like, that's not true.
I didn't say about Scotland.
I said about England.
I don't know what's happening.
But you also don't live in England.
I've been to England.
So do you have enough information to say that?
Have you been?
No, but if you've lived in England, I've been to England.
I don't have enough information to say that.
Well, if you've been to Palestine, even if you didn't live there, I would accept more, but you don't, we weren't even there.
I think the thousands of women and children who were brutally murdered in Gaza and the West Bank, by the way, would probably disagree with you if they were still here.
All right, where were we?
Vladimir Putin?
Sex chair fiber whatever?
To say, to prevent me.
I already said, yeah, I set up for you.
Nice skip.
We're not allowed to have sex before marriage, so it's kind of like in Judaism, it's not an option, really.
Okay.
Even if the world depended on it, well, that wouldn't happen.
I mean, that was my argument too, but I was forced to answer.
I don't feel like God would do such a thing.
Me either, but I was forced to answer too.
Is it my turn?
But you're not Funkum.
No.
No, not like...
You can say no.
Like, you're so bad.
I'm saying because I don't want it to sound like I don't care.
Of course, I wouldn't want to save the world, but it's against your relationship.
It's against my religion.
It's also a sin in the Bible to be, you know, to have infidelity and to cheat.
Right?
I don't do that.
Yeah, no, and I don't either.
And Christians don't either.
But.
I mean, if the world was literally going to end, you'd a nuclear explosion.
Right.
I can't say I would go against my religion.
It's okay.
That's fine.
Let him die.
We're all dead.
So.
Wait, sorry.
Did you want to add something?
No, I think I've added enough.
I would definitely do it if, like, you know, my vagina can let the people live.
Let it be that.
Let it be that.
Period.
Turn that.
Yeah.
So the answer is yes.
I would.
Hell yeah.
What about you?
That would be my husband's decision, and I don't speak for him.
So.
But if you were single?
That is super hard because I have known my husband since I was 13.
So I don't even know what to do before him.
You know?
It's just like a hypothetical question.
Hypothetically, I guess if you had to protect all of us, like all the children, all the women, all the men and the children of the world, it's up to you.
Sure.
Wow, that was lively there while I was gone from the table.
Okay.
That was an interesting thing.
Protecting All Of Us 00:05:09
You're pumped up.
That was an interesting convo.
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Ice Agent Deporting 00:03:44
This is sort of dating related or whatever.
Speaking of immigration, I guess.
Would you date an ICE agent?
You're so problematic.
No.
No?
No.
Is that no?
Okay.
What about?
I don't think so.
Maybe just explain why, I guess.
I don't support what they're doing.
So why would I?
What's specifically?
Why would I want to date Mary somebody?
Yeah, date, Mary, hook up, whatever you want to do, I guess.
I just say no, I don't support what they're doing.
What specifically do you not support?
I don't support what ICE is doing.
But like, so I think there can be, for example, there are clearly instances of police misconduct, police killings, well, police brutality.
And even someone who otherwise supports police can be against police doing things that are wrong.
And that definitely happens.
And perhaps there are recent instances where you might, you know, think, well, that's not great.
But in terms of against what they're doing, in terms of are you against them legally deporting, but are you against them legally deporting illegal immigrants?
Well, I just wouldn't want to date an ICE agent either way.
Yeah, that's fine.
like that's up to them but that's just yeah no but you you said that you're against what they're doing which they're the primary thing that i against i'm against what they're being made to do yeah And what they choose to do.
Well, it could be simple.
It could be easy.
I mean, somewhat.
It's not an easy job.
But there are some cases where it's not what you want to.
I just don't know.
Yeah, so I mean, I'm happy to grant that there are definitely probably instances where either the ICE agents are doing something wrong, or, you know, maybe even we could even categorize it as far worse than that.
But I guess when it comes to the deportations, do you object to justified deportations of illegal immigrants?
I would say you got this right.
You got it.
You got it.
I think the main goal is I understand the main goal for it, but I think it's been taken too far.
Yeah, I mean, look, I think for some people that that's a reasonable position to have.
But in terms of the fundamental thing that they're trying to do, which is deporting people who are here illegally, do you object?
Let's assume they go by.
No, I don't object.
Yes.
Deportation for the people who are not coming into the country the correct way is I understand that.
Go do it the correct way.
Okay, so you're fine with that?
Yeah, with how they're handling how they're doing it is what I don't support that part.
Would you date an ICE agent?
Probably not.
Probably not.
Absolutely not.
I don't really know too much about what's going on to be able to give much.
Well, essentially an ICE agent.
I do an idea of I know you've just said that.
Yeah, it's somebody who is enforcing the immigration laws of the United States.
So if you were to try to apply to your country, if somebody came to the UK illegally, you would have a law enforcement officer apprehending them and deporting them.
If they were doing it the right way, then yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, just like a police, like if he's doing it by how the government or law, so no, I'm just not into like I don't think being an ICE agent inherently makes you a bad person or a bad partner.
So I don't understand that.
Why Simps Send Cash? 00:05:01
Hello, you?
Of course, yes, I would date and marry.
Ace agent, ICE agent.
Okay, all right, cool.
Let's see here.
We have, oh, let me shout out a couple people who have looks like you guys bought some merch.
Thank you guys.
You guys didn't send a message, but thank you.
Nikolai, thank you for the cash app payment.
Appreciate it, man.
Thank you, thank you.
All right, guys, we are, what the heck happened there?
One sec, guys.
I'm fixing something in my computer.
Okay, we're going to get into, hmm.
Oh, you know what?
Here's a question for the OnlyFans girls.
OnlyFans, OnlyFans, OnlyFans.
Nobody else has OnlyFans.
super quick segment so do you guys get why i guess we can even do it with the women who don't do only fans Like, have you had guys who just send you money, kind of simps or whatever?
Of course.
Like, they'll just send you money.
Here's $10.
Here's $50, $100, $200.
They're called PayPicks.
PayPigs, PayPigs.
Have you guys had, you have that?
Have that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
What was the question?
Yeah, the question is.
We do this segment where it's a Uno reverse.
So basically, you know, you guys, even women who don't do OnlyFans have this experience of, like, I mean, I guess I could ask it this way.
Have you had a guy, you know, you're an attractive gal.
Has a guy ever just sent you money just cuz?
No.
Like, have you ever feet pics or anything like that?
No.
Okay.
Oh, guys have asked to send you money, but you turned them down.
Yes.
Okay, you've been offered.
Okay.
Has a guy ever just like been a simp and like, oh, let me buy you an, maybe like, let me send you a DoorDash.
Let me send you money, cash app Venmo, anything like that?
Oh, yeah, I've gotta DoorDash.
By dudes?
One time.
Oh, one time.
But was it Starbucks?
Was it like a guy you friend zoned or?
No.
It was a guy you were dating.
Nope.
Just who?
Just a guy, a friend?
A guy friend.
Okay.
Amy, have you had that experience?
Guys just sending you money?
I also declined, but yeah, my message requests are terrifying.
I don't even go in there anymore.
Same group.
Okay, I'm assuming you guys have messages on Snapchat and whatever, but always decline.
All right, just curious, who has some cash on them right now?
Just show of hands.
Anybody have cash?
Does anyone carry cash here?
No cash.
Ah, shit.
I was going to see, I was going to roll reversal.
I was going to see, you know, maybe once as a bucket list thing that you can just, like a little ha-ha as a novelty, you can be like, oh, I'm going to give Brian.
Give me, you know, you want us to be not a pay pig.
Or you want feet pics.
Are you poor?
Free what?
I said feet picks.
No, I definitely don't want feet pics.
I'm not into that.
But I do, yeah, I'm a starving college student.
It's really hard out here, starving artist.
So if anybody has any cash on them and you want to just give it to me, I'll take some.
That was me.
That was me.
Whoops.
All right, I guess no takers.
All right.
Tough crowd here tonight.
I don't.
Hey, it's worked before.
It's worked before.
One time a girl gave me like $300, $400.
No, it was somebody else.
Someone else.
Are you poor?
Oh, I've had like other girls on the panel.
They'll just give me cash when I ask for you.
Did you take it?
Of course.
Oh, wow.
Why should I turn down cash?
What are you going to give it?
That's what I'm saying.
You're right.
Why should we turn away cash?
Well, here on the whatever podcast.
Even if it's dirty money?
What do you mean dirt?
Like if it's like if they're free?
What?
Cash is kang.
No, if it's like from OnlyFans or someone gave it to them and then they give it to you.
I'll explain we don't have money.
You don't care.
Yeah, I'll accept money from an OnlyFans girl.
I don't really care.
She can give it to me.
Aren't you a Catholic though?
No, I'm agnostic.
I have pro-Christian sentiment, though.
Do you support OnlyFans?
No.
But you would take money from OnlyFans.
I don't understand.
This doesn't even make sense.
So if an OnlyFans girl goes to a Christian bakery and asks for bagels.
No, but she's giving it to you for free.
Yeah, so.
I don't care.
He doesn't care.
He just wants to be a fan.
It's a donation.
It's a donation.
I don't see how that's...
You can also agree, like, I could give someone money that could give him money, and then he wouldn't even know it's dirty money.
But it came from me originally.
Okay, that's different.
I'm saying if it's directly, he knows it's from your OnlyFans.
Better in my pocket than this OF girl.
What?
I guess.
Yeah, she should give me it.
Yeah, they should come on the show.
Should I cash out you?
I'm guilty of that.
Yeah, you probably should.
Yeah, they should give me a tribute when they come on the show.
I do appreciate it.
But, okay, unfortunately, I didn't fail on that.
Complete fail.
But I tried, you know, I always like to try because sometimes I come away with a bag.
Have I had cash on me?
I get it.
Involuntary Celibacy Considerations 00:15:51
Let's see here.
Okay, so we did allegiance.
We did the money segment.
Oh, here's a fun segment.
It's called Big Brother Brian segment.
All right, Mary, I don't need the commentary.
So, okay.
Oftentimes, I think men, maybe your male friends can't be honest with you about.
If you maybe were ever curious about something about dating, a question about men, I will answer your question completely honestly, completely bluntly.
If you're dating a guy, he's not going to give you an honest answer.
Probably a lot of your male friends are not in a position to actually be able to get this girl a fucking energy drink or something.
That's like the 20th yawn.
Yeah, you get her an energy drink or something.
She already took one, huh?
So, does anybody have a question they would like to ask?
I will give you a completely honest answer.
Something about men, something about dating, anything.
I will be your big bro, and I'll give you some advice.
Stay approach.
That's completely.
It's just going to be a no.
Okay.
What's up?
So I have a question.
I've seen a little shirt of this podcast and you guys talking about body count and things like that.
Is that a big deal in America?
Is body count a big deal?
Yeah, for females.
Yeah, it's not in Europe, is it?
Not really.
It's not really.
We don't have that in Russia.
Nobody's talking about it.
I've never heard of that.
So it doesn't matter how many.
No, we're very sex positive in Europe, so it's not really a big issue.
Yeah, I mean, it depends what we mean by your question is, does it matter?
Like, do you.
I'm asking for clarification.
Please repeat.
I think the question is, does body count matter in America?
Does body count matter in America?
Yeah, that's a little bit more.
Well, I mean, America is incredibly diverse.
So, I mean, like, I can't just give you.
Yes, every single man in America cares about body count.
You just said I'm going to be a big bro.
I'm going to tell you the truth.
Yeah, my question isn't in contradiction to your question or my answer.
Maybe she's asking, do you care about body count?
Me specifically?
Yeah, but she's not going to be a menu.
And then you're asking you, American men.
Well, conservative, why?
It depends where you are, I guess.
Like, it depends on the state where you're like, most of the men in Miami does not care.
Yeah, here, I'll try to buy it on the general question, I guess.
I think in general, yes, I would say in general, it is going to be a factor in terms of what men care about.
Now, however, it's a bit complicated.
So I think if the woman is attractive enough, a lot of men, perhaps even the majority of men, are going to give them a pass.
A lot of men don't have the same level of abundance and optionality that even an average woman has.
So a lot of men, they don't have a lot of dating prospects and options.
So in order for you to care about body count as man, you need to have leverage.
In order to have leverage, you need to have options.
So if you don't have options as a man, you're going to kind of just, oh, she's good looking.
She's not even good looking all the time.
She's attractive enough and she's interested in me.
Honestly, majority of men, that's probably going to be the standard.
Now, should that be the standard?
Not necessarily.
But if we saw that men had more abundance, more options, more standards, even, then absolutely, yes.
I think a lot of men, you know, it basically comes down to the optionality component.
But are you talking about hookup or marriage?
Well, that's different too.
Because I think most of the guys.
Men care less.
Men will prioritize it less for like long-term relationships.
With their wife, they would care to prioritize it more.
But even then, I think a lot of guys have been zeroed out of the dating marketplace.
A lot of guys really aren't getting that level of attention.
So like a lot of guys are kind of desperate and they will settle and tolerate a suboptimal situation.
They still care about it, but they realize they don't have the leverage to actually exercise the optionality to be selective about it.
And also, there's just not enough pool of women who, frankly, have low body counts or who are virgins or whatever the metric is.
But in the first place, they would care.
Most of them would prefer someone, especially for a wife.
Yes, but whether or not they can get the woman who has a low body count, that's another question.
So I think, but yes, I think if you were to ask most men, yeah, I think most men would say if they could get it, then yes, they would want a woman who has a lower body count.
Yeah, but they still treat virgins and young girls really bad, I think.
I have a small question.
I just wanted to know: like, did you look up the statistics on everything, right?
On what?
I don't know.
I was just asking.
Because you're like claiming most men prefer virgins and girls with lower body count.
So I was just thinking about it.
Well, the claim is men prefer lower body count, yes.
That can entail virgin, but I think most, I would say, most men, would it be their preference for the girl to be a virgin?
Yes, but I think most men realize that like experience?
Well, America is a Christian country, right?
And so biblically, obviously, men want virgins, and I think all high-value men would want a virgin or a girl with a low body count.
Go ahead, finish your.
Oh, sorry.
I was going to ask, do you guys believe like both parties should be virgin?
Like, don't you believe like a virgin girl deserves a virgin?
Like, I'm thinking about myself personally.
You know, if I were to be a virgin, I wouldn't want to be with someone that's not a virgin.
That's well, look, if you're a woman who's a virgin and you only want to date a virgin, I'm completely fine with that.
I don't have a double standard on it, but I would say that women tend to be, even women who are virgins are way more forgiving of male promiscuity than the reverse.
Women, there are definitely women who don't want to deal with or date like a guy who's highly promiscuous or was highly promiscuous or who has a high body count.
But that the proportion of women who have that preference is far lower than the proportion of men who value this.
And it's for a couple different reasons.
There's a nurture component, but there's also a nature component.
So I think for evo-psych reasons, essentially, there's a biological reason for why men care about body count.
One of the, there's plenty of reasons why men care about body count, but I would argue one of the big ones is it just has to do with paternity certainty.
So as a man, let me paint it like this.
Let's say a woman has 10 husbands and she's sleeping with all of them.
Who's the father?
Absent a DNA test.
You don't know.
However, if you have a man who has 10 wives and they're all loyal to him, you know who the father is and who the mother is in all instances.
So in this case, I think there's an evolutionary basis for men's heavier investment in a lack of promiscuity, a lack of either past or current promiscuity in women because it has to do with paternity uncertainty.
Women, if you get pregnant, you know, you know your paternity, or not, excuse me, not paternity, maternity in this case, is guaranteed in all instances because if you have the kid, that's for sure your kid.
It's one of the biggest L's a man can take in life to be with, it's not just the infidelity, it's he's raising a kid that he thinks is his, but is not.
It's a double whammy.
She cheated, and I'm investing resources and love and attention to a child that's not mine.
So it's men are more evolutionary and biologically invested in this.
But what if it's not with a kid?
Huh?
What if it's not with a kid?
Why do women like tall men?
Why do women like strong men?
I don't like tall men.
Because I don't like tall men either.
Oh my God, you women always do this.
I do.
Always do this where it's like, well, what about me?
No, I'm speaking in generalities here.
So for example, is it wrong for me to say humans are born with 10 fingers?
Is that incorrect for me to say?
Now, are there some people who are born with another digit, another finger?
Yes.
But it's not incorrect as a general principle to say humans are born with 10 fingers.
You guys always want to do this thing like...
It's a different topic.
That's a total different topic.
What was the original question over here?
Rose, yours.
What if there's not kids involved?
Yeah, I'm saying like, and it's very, it's like a flex for guys to have a higher body count.
And for a girl, it's like, she's like a whore, you know?
Like, it's not in the same level.
Well, I mean, that's another thing.
So for a woman to be a slut, incredibly easy.
Any woman could be a slut.
In order to be a slut as a man, definitely not every guy can be a slut.
There are men who are in cells.
Women cannot be involuntarily celibate.
So it takes either a certain degree of status, attractiveness, looks, money, or charisma for a man to be able to get laid.
So just because it's harder for a men?
Women get laid a lot?
And yes, it's harder for men to get laid.
Whereas for a woman, you can be like severely unattractive.
As long as you're making yourself sexually available, you'll get takers.
You go on Tinder, you put a sign around your neck saying, pussy open for business.
Even if it's crass as fuck, even if it's crass and gross, if you just have a sign, DTF, you will get takers.
So why are guys so desperate?
I even think you could put like a above average looking guy doing that.
No women are coming up to him DTF like that.
Like they're not doing that.
Maybe, like, look, I could think of like, you know, maybe there's some scenario where it could happen.
But at least I would say it would be really rare.
And it would definitely not be at the frequency with which if a woman was doing that, she puts a sign that says DTF within an hour of being out, she's got like this.
But isn't it the guy's fault because they're so desperate?
Like they don't care about it.
At fault with it then.
Well, that doesn't change the fact that, so in terms of why there's this double standard that exists, I don't think that that would change, regardless of who's to blame, so to speak.
Yes, I would agree.
Women tend to be more selective.
I don't disagree with you there, but it doesn't change the fact that why the double standard exists.
So y'all women, it's easy for you to be a slut.
It's hard for a guy to be a slut.
That's interesting.
I don't like that.
It's easy for both.
Really?
No, it's not the same.
Wait, let's check this out.
Let me test this right now.
Hold on, let me test it.
How can I test this?
Don't ask me.
You're going to spend some bars.
No, I like how.
Did you hear what Andrew Tate says once that women born with value?
So why are you using the word slot?
I don't think women.
Because women are very emotional.
So in order to become a slut, they have to disconnect, I would say, more their emotions.
And guys are more into physical.
But nowadays, guys are also emotional either.
But not as, not like a woman.
They can turn it off very easy, but.
I mean, even, that's why Judaism is passed down only through the mother, correct?
Because.
Because going back to what Brian said, the paternity cannot be guaranteed.
That's the only re that's why Judaism can only be passed down through the mother.
It makes sense from an evolutionary and biological standpoint.
But you think that it's just like easy for guys too?
I think it goes both ways.
Like, I understand.
If you're a guy, if you're a girl, you're going to find a way to go and fuck people.
So I'm not saying that men have zero access to hookup culture.
I'm not saying that there aren't men who can just go to a party and just get laid.
It definitely happens.
I mean, in order for women to do it, there has to be a counterpart.
But what I'm saying is you can take an average or even below average looking woman, put her on a dating app, and she can get like any single girl here at this table, you could download Tinder right now.
You could get laid tonight.
I think you put even like an above-average looking guy, maybe even a really studly dude, on a dating app tonight.
I don't know.
It might take him a little, it might take him a minute to get it.
But I think that, look, ultimately, I think you have an average-looking girl, below-average-looking girl.
They can get sex super easily.
Are you familiar with the phenomenon of incels?
No.
So incel stands for involuntarily celibate.
So basically, despite efforts, like you, you're trying to get laid.
You can't.
This is a phenomenon only witnessed in men.
Only men can be involuntarily celibate.
You might be able to say, well, there's a woman who's a paraplegic and she's like the ugliest woman on earth and she lives on a deserted island.
Under this circumstances, a woman could perhaps be involuntarily celibate.
Although if she had an internet connection, some motherfucker showing up in a boat and down to fuck.
But like, ultimately, I mean, here, I can test it out really quick.
We got some single women.
After the show, do you want to have sex?
No.
With me.
No, okay.
She's a child.
Excuse me.
Wait, she's 19.
She's an adult.
Yeah, but like, so I feel like it really depends with the group of people you're going to for a guy.
Like, as a guy, it depends on like the type of girl you're going for.
Go for someone who's your at your level.
Oh, I'm totally fine with age gap relationships, but I'm more so doing this as a rhetorical question.
Well, I don't know if I would have to.
Fuck it, whatever.
I don't think it hands on me.
I'll ask it.
After the show, my God, I disdain almost asking this.
And I'll only ask it to the single woman here.
After the show, would you like to have sex?
Charlotte's fuck.
After the show, Bella.
After the show, would you like to have sexual intercourse, carinal knowledge?
After the show, would you like to have?
No.
What about you?
No.
Okay, so look, I just propositioned four or five single women.
Look, I didn't, you know, I mean, obviously she's trolling, but.
She's not trolling.
The feelings mutual, by the way.
The feelings mutual on that.
And just to be clear, that was not a genuine proposition.
Don't be offended by this.
This is where looks maxing culture has come from.
Are you familiar with this, Brian?
Luxmaxing?
Clavicula?
I mean, guys are literally going to such extreme measures to increase their attractiveness that they are literally taking hammers to the face and they're hitting their face enough to create these microfractures in their cheekbones and in their jaw so that it regrows stronger.
And this is a growing phenomenon that used to be kind of small within like incel and black pill communities, but it's been recently popularized by this individual called Clavicula.
And now a lot of guys are going to these very extreme measures.
They're getting leg extension surgeries to be taller.
They're taking hammers to the face.
They're taking meth.
But women who have been doing plastic surgery.
Yeah, I was about to say that.
Girls are doing that.
I feel like the men are doing it on the same surgery on a different level.
Instead of just going and getting surgery, these guys are taking myths so that they're starving themselves or like smacking their jaws with hammers instead of just getting surgery.
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And honestly, to a degree, I understand it because women only usually date across or higher.
And to Brian's point, a lot of guys are incels.
I mean, there are whole communities that are based around this notion.
That's men do have to have a higher value to be able to take on more partners.
No, completely.
Yeah.
Like, let me ask you: so, you probably go to college parties and stuff.
So, look, I acknowledge that there's definitely going to be hookups and people are going to be hooking up, but I think what the phenomenon you're going to see is typically the guys who are successful when it comes to getting casual sex.
And we actually see this, there's data on this from the dating apps.
Basically, you have the majority of women all chasing after the top five, 10% of guys on dating apps.
And we also see this even in real life, absent the dating apps.
If you put on a speed dating event, by the way, this is why men don't go to these like lame speed dating events because it's a massive humiliation ritual for 90% of the men.
You go to these speed dating events, like the women will be eyeballing.
Let's say there's a hundred men, hundred women.
They're going to be hyper-focused, the women, on like four, five, six guys there.
Whereas, like, say there's an equal distribution of the men's assessment of the women's attractiveness, they'll the guys will be like, oh, yeah, 50, 60 of the women were attractive.
I would date her.
Whereas women are way harsher when it comes to their assessments of men.
They'll be like, ah, there were like two or three guys I liked.
And so you see this playing out in the real world too.
Basically, women find like the vast majority, I guess I'd put it like this: most men find most women attractive.
Most women definitely don't find most men attractive.
Would you agree with that?
No, I would agree with that.
It's on your standards.
It's how you have your standards.
Sure, but in this case, I think that while you do have like a small percentage of men who are hypersexual who are engaging in hookup culture, you basically have groups of men who maybe occasionally they might get something, but for the most part, most men, yeah, they can't really have access to the hookup culture.
Whereas I'd paint it like percentages.
I think here, I'll just be a bit conservative.
I think it's 100%.
Let's just say 90% of women have access to hookup culture.
So I understand, just to be clear, when I say access, I'm not saying that 90% of women want hookup culture or want to just have casual hookups or fuck whenever they want, but they all have the ability to do it if they wanted to.
No, yeah.
Like, I'm sure you guys are friends.
You guys go to college.
You're both attractive.
I don't know if younger guys, if they're approaching women as frequently as they used to years past because of social media, dating apps, social dating landscape, kind of sketchy a little bit.
But I'm sure you guys have a lot of options, I would assume.
So I think 90% of women, you know, what's that?
Clazing.
Okay.
I think you basically would have just an abundance of options, but I'm sure you're not, you're rejecting probably a lot of guys, I'm assuming.
Oh, is that a question?
Yeah, sure.
Why not?
I mean, I haven't really been here for that long.
I haven't really gone to that many parties, but I would say, I think there's.
I mean, I wouldn't say I would reject like guys aren't going up to us and being like, hey, like, let's hang out.
Like, can I remember?
More so, like, they start like slowly lingering.
Like, ooh.
And then rejecting them is just like kind of lingering the other way.
I feel like it used to be way more prominent of like guys going up to girls and like being very blunt, but they realize that probably does not work.
So, gotta find other ways.
Well, I think there's a component of men don't have to approach in person now because of social media and because of dating apps, they have a different avenue.
Like, being rejected on a dating app is pretty much a nothing.
Maybe for some guys it stings a little bit, but it's so far separated that it's like whatever.
Whereas most men probably are most men are very uncomfortable with the idea of approaching a woman in person and being rejected in person.
And also, the stakes are way higher.
Now, it's just like, okay, she's going to make some TikTok.
Oh my God, this creepy guy fucking approached me at Trader Joe's.
And like, the stakes are higher now.
The social stakes are quite high.
So, yeah.
True.
But in any case, look, I have to disagree, though, that there are men who do engage in casual sex or who have access to hookup culture.
But really, I think you have maybe 5-10% of men who can do the hookup culture stuff.
The rest get nothing or they get relationships.
And then 90% of women, if they wanted to, could be sluts.
Yeah.
If they wanted to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I agree.
I mean, look, you can do the experiment.
There's a whole bunch of ways you can do the experiment.
You could wear a sign that says DTF.
You send a girl out.
You send a guy, guy out.
And they could be equivalent in terms of their looks.
And the girl, let's say you send out two average-looking people.
The girl's going to be bombarded.
She'll probably get dozens of propositions in a day if she's out there for a couple hours.
The guy's going to stand there looking like a complete fucking idiot.
Also, I understand that guys don't approach as much as they used to in years past, but I would say that if you go to a party or a bar or club, as a guy, no girl's coming up to you.
Like if you're at the club or bar, just, you know, not being a weirdo, but just hanging out, no girl's going to be like, oh, hey, girls don't really shoot their shot like that.
Again, I understand sometimes they do.
Sad.
Why?
If you find a cute guy, shoot your shot, girl.
You should.
Have you ever shot your shot?
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I feel like he has to like.
What's your line?
What's your go-to?
Oh, I just got to like roll.
I have a good one.
Really quick before I have you do it.
This is how girls shoot their shot.
All right, you ready?
Let's hear it.
I just did it.
True.
It just like glance at you for one second and then that's shooting their shot.
Let me give you guys a great way to approach someone.
Okay.
You go up to them and you go, oh my gosh, I think I've seen you before.
Like, how do I know you?
And then starts flowing.
And that just works.
You just got to dip your toe in the water, see how it's flowing.
Yeah.
And Brian writing it down.
Taking notes here.
Taking notes.
Well, really quick, I wanted to come back to this because it came up while we were talking about this.
Okay, so you object to age gap relationships then?
Because when I, I mean, I was doing a rhetorical segment when I was propositioning you, but you're like, oh, yeah, stay in your lane, Brian.
What would actually be, like, for example, a 30-year-old dating a 20-year-old, would you object to that?
No.
I mean, my sister's like in her 20s.
She's eating a guy in his 30s.
Me too.
You seem to have like a.
I mean, it depends on the two people.
I feel like.
I mean, there's definitely there could be like a maturity age gap.
I mean, I feel like.
I thought women mature faster than that's why if a guy is like 10 years older, it's not such a big deal.
Like it is, but it's not like as if the woman is because normally the woman is normally more mature.
Yeah.
Also, like, look, let's just be honest.
Actually, never mind.
No, say it.
We love being honest.
No, well, look, I mean, there's, again, evolutionary biological basis for this.
men are typically going to find women between the age of like 25 to 18 that age range as just more physically attractive do you think like yeah older men find like by the way just to be clear like women in their late 20s 30s still can be or are very attractive But I think if you ask most men, they've done studies on this.
I think it's just the youth, but they're biologically attracted to have babies.
Fertility.
Yeah.
Actually, I feel like there's a lot of guys that have mommy issues and they like 40-year-olds.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, sure.
There's also men who date older women.
Yeah, I'm not saying, like, I don't like these people who are kind of more extreme about it.
They'll say, oh, the women, once they're expired goods, I think, first off, I think that's a bit insulting to older women.
It is.
And I think it's just, I don't think it's actually true.
I think women, even in their late 20s, 30s, do mostly find dating.
Some encounter issues, but I think it's a bit of a cope.
And also, they're still attractive, you know.
But if we're just like doing an analytical assessment of what men generally find most attractive, I'd say like 20 to 25, 18 to 25.
Did you have something?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, over 35, it's like considered a geriatric pregnancy.
Technically, there's a lot more complications that can arise from that.
You can get pregnant with that.
Yeah, I mean, you can get pregnant, but it's more likely that there's going to be complications.
And so like even for me and my fiancé, he's actually a little bit younger than me, but we plan to begin hopefully honeymoon baby.
We want to try to make babies as soon as possible.
Pump them out.
Yes.
Wait, did sorry, you had something or I'm trying to remember.
Was it somebody over here had something about the age gap?
I'm trying to remember.
No, you said that.
I don't know why.
I mean, I don't have my husband and I are only three weeks apart, but I don't think that's the issue of it.
Like it makes sense that older men would be attracted to younger women for that reason.
My brother is married to a woman that's 12 years younger, I think, than him.
And they're very compatible because of like where she's at as a human.
I think big age gaps are only acceptable after a certain age.
20.
Yeah.
After 20.
Like somebody reaching their 30s was like, oh, you're ATI can hit on you.
I'd be running for my life.
Yeah.
Well, look, I think it might be a bit peculiar, for example, if you have somebody in their 30s going to college parties, specifically only trying to hit on 18 and 19-year-olds.
That might be a bit weird.
I don't think it would be like, I don't think it would point to him being like a pedophile.
Pedophile or whatever.
But like it is a little peculiar, but I think you can, for example, you can find women at 35, like you can find women at 35, 40, 30, 25, 20.
You could find women at all these age ranges attractive.
I guess here I could give you an example.
So I'm 36.
If a 19-year-old girl DMs me, so I'm not looking for it.
She DMs me and she's hot and she, we align on our values.
Can you make an argument why I should reject her?
What if she's less mature than you?
Mature?
She just, she's in college or whatever.
Like you guys are in very different places in life.
Different stages of life.
So you're going to talk about it.
So you wouldn't care.
The different stages of life, I don't find that particularly compelling.
I would also say that in terms of maturity, some of the most immature.
By the way, just to make something clear, I've dated women who are older than me.
I dated a woman who was in her 40s.
I've dated women my age, a little younger, a little older.
I've dated the smorgasbord.
Experience.
The most immature women I've ever dated that were the most toxic, the most conflict-ridden, the most immature were women my age or older.
That's why they're still single.
Right.
So it kind of knows it does play into this idea that, look, there are good women who can, you know, shit happens, whatever.
You know, you can find good women in late 20s, 30s, even older.
But I think the proportion, like the keepers, get discovered early.
The keepers, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23.
Again, not universal.
There's women who are keepers in their 30s, 20s, et cetera, et cetera.
There's a higher proportion of women who are keepers when they're younger because they haven't been kept yet.
They haven't dated enough to have been kept.
Been kept.
Been kept.
There's more keepers.
It's likely, you know, the older you get, the more you've experienced.
You know, you can have good and bad experiences.
The more trauma you have, the more bullshit the man needs to deal with, number one.
And then also, I think men kind of like being able to give their woman their first-time experience.
You know what I mean?
Like they want to be the one to put them in that nice car for the first time and give them all these luxurious experiences.
No, it's true.
I mean, he has a really good point when he says that.
Men derive a lot of pleasure from that.
No, I mean, it is true.
And I agree with Andrew on that.
Where's my nice car?
He said, where's my nice car?
You're young.
You're dating college guys, all right?
You're not going to find your husband.
Start dating 30-year-olds.
Well, I mean, that's one of the reasons I think that some younger.
Look, also with the age gap thing, I do want to make this clear.
I acknowledge, but I'm not saying younger women should date older men.
I'm saying they can.
And there shouldn't be some sort of weird.
Look, people can do whatever they want, but I don't think we should necessarily try to pathologize it.
But I think that I think I can acknowledge, like, most women date guys around their age.
You probably date a guy your age, one, two, three years older.
And that's totally fine.
But if a woman wants to date an older guy, that's also totally fine.
And in terms of the maturity, though, look, I can tell you from my own experience.
Yeah, some of these older women, the most fucking toxic, like they don't handle, they don't handle rejection well.
They don't handle breakups well.
They do not handle it.
And I've had women like you can, you can do the nice thing where a lot of guys will ghost a girl.
You can be like, you can do the nice thing and talk to them and tell them, hey, listen, it was nice going on one or two, three dates with you, but I don't know if it's the right fit.
And you can be nice and polite, not do the ghosting thing.
And I've had one or two older women lose their fucking shit and make it their fucking scorned woman, make it their thing to want to like, I've had women try to ruin my business because I didn't want to keep dating them.
Like awful shit, like completely disproportional.
This isn't something interesting about some women.
And some men do this too.
I call it going nuclear.
So for example, I don't think you should call people stupid, but if I call somebody stupid, I think you should perhaps insult me back in a proportionate way.
So you shouldn't be like, if I call somebody stupid, you probably shouldn't be like, well, I hope your parents die.
That seems disproportionate, you know?
In that same vein, I've rejected women.
When I say reject, I'm not like, you suck, bitch.
No, it's like very polite.
I don't ghost them.
I communicate.
They lose their fucking shit.
And they're like, oh my God, you wasted my time.
I'm like, we went on one date, two dates.
Calm down, lady.
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And so They go nuclear.
I don't know.
Maybe you guys have had a situation.
I think it depends on with like a weird stalker creepy guy who maybe you gave him your number and now you got a stalker.
And it's like that go nuclear thing.
Guys do it too, but I think it depends on person.
Have you heard Army Hammer, the actor?
How the yeah, I know about him.
Yeah, like he got canceled in Hollywood, lost all his contracts, jobs.
He was extremely successful actor, Army Hammer.
And the girl accused him, like, he's rape her or something like that.
And she was well, no, you don't really have it correct.
So this is a very unique scenario, but there were allegations that he was into, he had a very peculiar kink, allegedly some sort of cannibalistic kink.
No, so he liked to like, yes, this is, I'm familiar with Army Hammer.
I'm very familiar with this.
So he allegedly, there was, he had this cannibalism kink, allegedly.
I don't know the truth of it.
If you're having consensual kink fetish interactions with people, I don't know.
He did lose his pretty successful career, though.
Yeah, but what about Jonah Depp and his Ember Heard?
Yeah, like she also chooses.
There's lots of stories like that where men choose younger women and she's destroy his career.
And I mean, I guess it depends on person because we all know there's examples when these women have a lot to gain by doing that as well.
If you're a man with notoriety, then you have a lot to gain by making these allegations as well.
Yeah, just to be clear, younger women can do this too.
But I think that, at least in my experience, and I've dated different, you know, I've dated younger, older, all this stuff.
My experience has been that it's been the older, the older women who their optionality when it comes to dating is in the decline.
They're the ones who get really bent out of shape when things end.
And I think, you know, over time, people can get jaded and can get, like, when you're toxic, that shit gets worse as you age.
So, like, if you're toxic at 18, like, I don't know.
I think also younger women have so many options.
It's like she gets rejected by a guy.
Okay.
I got a hundred dudes in my DMs.
I got an NFL player in my DMs.
I got Drake in my DMs.
Okay, you rejected me, college guy, whatever.
I don't give a fuck.
Like, that's how women who are attractive and young operate.
Like, they just have abundance.
They don't care.
Maybe the problem that you're dating American women, maybe you should try a date.
Andrew Tates says, since you watch him, like Andrew Tate said, what Slavic women?
Yeah, I mean, I would say that in terms of like being more feminine, I would say in terms of being more feminine, Eastern European women, I guess this would encompass Russian women.
Asian women and Latin American women definitely have more of the positive traits than men care about versus American women.
American women are very masculine.
They're full-on boss babes.
They've taken the propaganda.
Y'all want to be career boss babe women.
You guys don't want any, well, you want men to be traditional.
You want men to be like it's the 1950s, while you women want shit to be 2026 for what you can do.
Y'all want to keep the benefits of modernity for women, but you definitely like the men to be provider, protector, chivalrous, all that shit.
You love that shit.
Even if you're a liberal, feminist, equality woman, you want the guy to pay for it.
You guys not very fair, anyways.
And also, the government here are protecting women.
So men get, I would say, surprised a lot because women can divorce him, took everything he has, he gained.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, like, that's what I'm trying to say.
Sure.
His house, money, everything, and even accuse him like he was abusive or something like that.
And never true.
And he could never talk to his kids again.
Thanks, feminism.
Yeah.
Feminism has done a number on women.
What do you guys know?
Who's going around the table?
Thank Terrassis.
Bringing that up, Amy.
Who here is a feminist going around the table?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, I would say.
can i get a quick definition that means you think because if you think if you should be equal everyone should be equal Well, I don't agree with that.
I just think feminism is a lot of people.
I described feminism more about how it's women thinking that they're better than men.
Yeah, I don't believe that.
I don't think that's the third wave of feminism, right?
Nowadays, that's not the modern wave has been described in the past years has changed a lot from how it started.
Yeah.
I feel like it's caught.
There's been waves of feminism, but they're all bad, in my opinion.
Like, the second wave of feminism was set up by this woman who really advocated for it.
Her name's Kate Millay.
I think she was French, but she was a communist and Marxist and Satanist, I believe, as well.
And they intentionally basically set it up.
Well, number one, the government set it up so they could tax both men and women.
It was about a money thing, number one.
But the second wave is where the propaganda really began and started, I guess, what we would call the work mind virus, where, yes, women now believe that they are superior to men.
Well, like, like Brian said, they want a man who is chivalrous.
They want a man who, you know, operates like it was the 1950s, whereas they want to be the 2026 version, where they can have all of the options.
they can be a boss babe um yeah that's i think men and women should just vibe that is such a mood Men and women should just vibe.
I think we have a definition as equal.
Like, so equal, isn't it?
Feminism.
But realistically, men seek out supremacy because they want to just be able to do whatever the hell they want to do.
But they still expect men to get to a certain standard.
A lot of women, like, I get a lot of shit from people for being a stay-at-home mom.
Like, your husband must be some domineering asshole when in the grand scheme of things, he allows me to stay home and take care of our family.
Which is something else that feminism has also completely destroyed is just like a strong family.
I think it's just given people the option.
I spend a lot of time at schools, and I can tell you there's kids that are having a really hard time, especially when you take a mom out of the mix of things.
Sorry, sorry.
Just make the fix, please.
When you take a mom out of the household and you make her work and you exhaust her, now she's at the point, like, there's a whole bunch of things.
My biggest thing is I enjoy making food for my family from scratch.
Now all these foods are processed and have all these extra ingredients, all these chemicals that we're pumping into these children's bodies and it's causing ADHD issues.
How did other problems feminism?
Because feminism took women out of the home and told them that they belong in the workforce and not just give them the option though because they expect you to be masculine.
Like you get looked down on.
If a woman stays home, it's like a lookdown.
It's not like, oh, good for you, good for your husband.
I guess like this is eye-opening now, but I used to think that when women stay home, that's a privilege.
Yeah, they're shadow.
They're taking care of their children.
They're being prominent in the children's lives.
Well, a lot of women are fighting now.
Not that we have to.
Because you can choose.
But if you speak to femme, like I speak to them.
So you're speaking to every time.
Well, I'm just saying, like, I, as in my life, I speak to a lot of people.
I think it's narrow-minded people that are like saying, you know, like being a stay-at-home-at-home mom is nothing because that's a lot of work.
Each kid is a full-time job.
It's a job in itself.
I was in Annie.
I was an annie for a lot of moms who had a lot of kids.
What kind of dynamics do you both want?
I mean, do you want to get married?
Do you want to have kids?
Okay, yes.
If I have- I thought you didn't want kids.
No.
Last time, didn't you say you don't want kids?
Yeah.
Wasn't that an option?
I'm getting baby cute.
I'm not even talking about it.
I'm 18.
I'm not talking about kids.
Sorry.
I really want to say this.
If I marry someone who is like, has enough money that I can just stay home and take care of these hypothetical children, that would be a privilege.
That would be great.
Yes.
Yeah, it is.
I'm not saying that's not like actively seeking out.
It's because I still work.
But let's say, do you have any career ambitions?
Yes.
Okay, so, but you.
I'm a singer.
Would you give up your career?
Singing?
Yeah.
To have kids?
Well, you said if you meet this guy who makes good money enough for that you.
If I was successful in my singing career, absolutely not.
But if it was some other career, probably.
Wait, if you were successful in your singing career.
Yep, I would never give that up.
You wouldn't give it up.
Ever.
Okay, but let's say.
But if it was like a business job, I'd get rid of it.
Let's assume the singing thing doesn't work out.
You have whatever your fallback career is, whatever you're studying in college.
Would you give that up, assuming the guy made enough money?
Okay.
What about you?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Hell.
Okay, so like what you're saying, like if I had a career that I'm doing really good and I'm doing better than my husband in, then he could be the same.
Yeah, I would keep my job and he will.
I feel like the roles should be like equal.
Like if somebody is making money and providing for the household, then other person is taking a look at it.
If I get really successful in my singing career, then my husband can stay home and take care of them.
But it's not the husband's job normally to raise the kids.
That's where feminism comes in.
There is no job or role.
Well, that's what you're against.
And it no, discourages nature as well.
Men get depressed when they stay home.
Like you can look at the statistics, but men get much more depression from staying at home with kids than women because that's not their main driving force as a male.
Women are emotional.
They like to give post-company.
Who's going to breastfeed?
The kids.
The babies.
Right.
But I think other fuckers are not going to be able to do that.
This is also statistically observable.
I mean, you heed my breast for a reason.
Also, I'm not necessarily talking about infants.
I think that both parents should be as present as they can for like the baby part.
Like for us, but when they're like old enough to like, a baby depends on the mom like for at least five years.
So it's not being a stay-at-home mom doesn't mean you're absent all the time.
You're just going to work, then you're coming home.
Got the weekend.
Yeah, but your husband's what I've gone for.
Like you can't replace your job.
How to even work, like nurturing and they carry that trait in them.
So yes, the mother like stays home with the child.
But if the father or if the husband isn't providing money to keep that house, the roof over their head, who's going to step in and make the money?
Well, why you married them?
Why you get pregnant with him?
So you marry a man based on how much money he's making?
No, but he should be able to protect your mother.
You should see the potential.
You should see his actions and if he's responsible.
If he's going to make a difference, when I married my ex-husband, he didn't make a lot of money at all.
Like he was in the military.
I don't know how much money he could make.
Well, you just contributed to something.
You need a man with a drug.
So why would you get with a man that doesn't have money, but you got a million?
No.
Not money.
I said actions and how much potential.
Yes, I'm talking about money.
I see what he's doing, like how he's responsible with everything and also with money.
Brian, you can maybe look up the statistic, but currently as it stands, I think it's less than 70% of people in the United States are married and earn a home now.
And this used to be the basis of the American dream.
And it's because of the inversion of the gender roles, because women are masculine and they therefore emasculate their man.
They're not getting married.
They're not earning homes.
This was, again, the foundation of the American dream, and it just doesn't exist for the majority of people anymore.
And I personally believe that feminism is to blame for that.
This is true.
Yeah, I mean, look, I think to Amy's point, in terms of the man being able to be the provider, when we basically said, okay, well, we're going to do away with this.
And look, I'm not saying women shouldn't have had the ability to work, but perhaps an unintended consequence of just completely unlimited feminism, when you double the labor pool.
So prior, look, by the way, women were able to work.
There wasn't some like law passwords like women are completely barred from working.
Women have been employed for centuries.
Women have been involved in work to some capacity.
But you also have to remember that there weren't air-conditioned office jobs 200, 300, 400 years ago.
The majority of work that was available was work that was just physically impossible or really, really difficult for women to do.
Men are stronger than women.
And if you go back 300, 400, 500 years, there wasn't like a fucking account manager at Facebook.
There was, you need to move that barrel of hay over there.
You need to build this.
Like there weren't all these jobs that, you know, so feminism and women's access to the workforce really is, can only really exist in a world where you have air-conditioned office jobs.
And so that's a really modern invention.
But basically, when you double the labor pool, there's other factors at play.
If you double the labor pool, that's going to drive wages down.
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It used to be the case you could raise a family on one income.
Now, again, I'm not saying, hey, women, you know, I think women should have the right to work.
However, an unintended consequence of feminism is you double the labor pool, drives wages down.
Corporations fucking love it.
Corporations love it.
They have to pay their workers less.
Taxes.
And now in a lot of fields, women are completely outperforming men.
Women are going to college way more.
They're getting more degrees.
Women actually own more houses than men do.
Women are more likely to be homeowners, especially younger women, you know, women in their 20s, 30s.
The proportion of women who own houses is far higher in this age demographic.
So you've seen a complete inversion of some of these roles.
And now, you say it's about choice.
I actually think you've taken the choice.
You've taken the choice away from women who want to be stay-at-home moms because it's so difficult now for men to actually be the breadwinner or to be in a financially or economically or economic position to actually be able to support the family on one income.
It's very difficult.
Some men can do it, but most men can't.
By doubling the labor pool, you've opened it up, wages down, a whole bunch of other, whole bunch.
I don't want to make it too black or white.
There's a bunch of reasons why the economy is completely fucked and you can't support a family on one income.
That feels like an economic problem, not a feminist problem.
Not a men in a problem.
It's not strictly due to that, but it's just an economic reality.
If you double the labor pool, women start making money.
Women are competing against men for jobs.
It's funny because on one hand, it's women on the macro scale, so external to them, women want equality in society.
But in your private relationships, not all women, but a lot of women say, oh, I want equality in the world.
But in my private relationship, I want or desire the guy to make more money.
Well, you need to foster a landscape in a society which would actually enable that kind of dynamic.
And if you have women out in the workforce, it does necessitate a lack of ability for men to be providers.
True.
There's also the component of birth control as well.
I mean, that was a huge element of feminism too, to prevent women from having children because they're able to be boss babes and pursue their career.
But there's the chemical thing as well.
Did you guys know that women who take birth control because of the chemical imbalance it creates in your brain or restructuring, probably not imbalance is the right word, they're more attracted to like feminine, liberalized men, actually.
And then when they get off the birth control, they stop being attracted to more traditional masculine men.
It's very interesting.
Wait, who's on birth control?
I've been on and off birth control for a very long time, and I wouldn't agree with that.
Wait, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
You dated a gay guy.
Did I know he was gay?
Maybe if he wasn't.
He and I break it up, you would have been able to tell.
Yeah, I could actually see that because listen to this.
I was on birth control, right?
When I started dating him, when I actually liked him, he wanted me to go off birth control because of influenza for certain reasons.
I don't even fucking know.
But as I was off birth control, I become unattracted to him.
I told you!
And then I go back on birth control.
That's perfect point.
But I go back on birth control, though.
Why?
No, let me ask you this.
Why women take birth controls?
What's the point?
So they don't have babies.
I've got an idea because I know this is a good idea.
But it plays with your hormones.
And so she doesn't get pregnant.
No, a quantum is not guaranteed.
And only one protection is not guaranteed you're not going to get pregnant.
No, but that's why I'm saying that.
Also, periods.
It does help a lot.
It helps.
Let me tell you this.
You have a relation maybe like six, five days a month.
It's not most.
You don't have to.
No, you can get pregnant only on the body.
Only on one relationship.
So you should study your fertility and read books about it.
You only have a little children's body.
You don't have to engage in sex during these days.
And you don't have to take synthetic.
But women are so busy.
Well, school, work, schedule, schedule, job, everything.
It's also fun.
Don't like it.
You have to check your fertility.
I've been doing it for years.
The sperm could live in your body for five days.
I'm just answering.
Sorry.
It could live up to five days in your body.
So it's not only the day that you're ovulating.
Also, the period trackings.
It's not a problem.
It's not.
And that's why I honestly think the pill keeps me in order with that.
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I know when I'm in the center of the city.
But it fucks with your feminists.
But I'm considering that.
I want to say it's fucked with mine.
Well, if you don't want to date another 20, maybe you should consider getting off it.
I don't know.
I actually prefer being on it.
It helps me a lot.
It's inexperienced.
One at a time, please.
If somebody's talking, please don't interrupt them.
Just really quick going around the table.
Who's on birth control?
Can you say what kind?
Yeah, I'm on this one called Vienba, and I've been on the.
Is that the pill?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm on IUD.
Best one I've had.
Hormonal or copper?
I don't know.
There's a hormonal IUD and there's a copper IUD.
All right.
Which is non-hormonal.
I think non-hormonal.
IUD.
Wait, hormonal or it's not copper.
It's like marina.
Marina, that's what I'm on.
Never in my life.
Never.
Okay.
I've not been on contraception for like 10 years.
Okay.
I'm not.
The pill.
The pill?
Okay.
No.
No.
Okay.
All right.
Interesting.
I would say an experience.
It's helped me out a lot.
I think we were trying to define what feminism is.
I mean, I'll just throw out two definitions super quick.
I'll give you my charitable definition and then my definition.
Charitable definition is feminism is women's advocacy.
There's nothing wrong with women's advocacy.
However, this is a counter to the claim that feminism is about equality or cares about equality.
Nothing wrong with women's advocacy, but don't parade it as an equality movement.
Don't say you're a feminist.
Don't say you're in favor of equality.
Feminists do not give a fuck about equality.
They care about women's advocacy.
Nothing wrong, but don't confuse the two.
Now, here's what I think it actually is: feminism is a man-hating ideology that perpetuates really, really harmful narratives and ideological rhetoric about men, about society, about women's roles historically in modern day, about men's roles historically in modern day.
It's a complete fantasy.
It's complete bullshit.
It's a psyop.
It's nonsense.
It's dog shit.
And it's super harmful to society.
And then, like, somewhere back there, there's women's advocacy baked into the man-hating.
That's why.
That's why I said what I said earlier: the definition of feminism has very much changed over the years.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did it not start when women could not vote, women cannot be landowners, women could not do a lot of things, and that's why you need to be voted for.
Why?
Yes.
What?
Why are you here?
No one shouldn't vote anymore.
Seriously, repeal the 19th.
Gosh.
Also, sir, let me ask you guys a question.
So, your definition of feminism is men are equal to women, right?
Like, sir, let me ask you this: why do we need feminists?
Okay, equal rights.
So, let me ask you then: why is feminism still needed in 2026 when women have just as many rights as men?
Why do you still need to identify as one when we already have that?
And if not, women have an excess women like to exaggerate.
Before you guys give your answers, when you give your answers, I've just been noticing this.
I know it's because Amy's sitting there.
Can you guys just try to look straight into the microphone?
I'm going to have to side that answer.
Sorry to interrupt, but go ahead.
I um wait, okay, hold on.
Let me come back.
The concept: I wouldn't have mentioned anything about feminism if you didn't ask me if I was a feminist, because I'm not going to say I'm not a feminist because I believe that men and women should have equal rights.
So, I'm not sitting here like constantly preaching and everything because, yeah, you're right, we have a lot of equality now, but I'm not going to just drop the idea that I feel they should be equal now that we have.
But they took it way too far than just having equal rights.
But if the purpose of it has already been fulfilled, why do we still need it?
Why is it still a prevalent ideology?
We still have marketplace.
I don't know.
They're trying so much to show that we are like men, that they're trying to be more than men.
I feel like there is still a majority of, I don't know my facts or anything, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
But other countries, they don't.
In the United States.
I'm just talking about the United States.
Yeah, in the United States, I feel like it's still impactful and good to feel that we do have that privilege, not privilege, I wouldn't say privilege, the right to have the same rights as everybody else.
But if it's already been achieved and fulfilled, then why do we still need it?
I think it's history.
Just remember to know that we, it's not your history.
Your definition on feminism is very different from what it started off.
In my mind, what I'm thinking about is we now all get to vote.
We all get to own land.
We all, like, we have the same rights.
I don't think it's about all the other things that you guys are talking about.
I think it's just good to know and to support that we're able to do that because that only started in 1960.
So, quick response on this.
So, the women got the right to vote in 1920.
That's when the 19th Amendment was, what's the term, ratified, passed.
In any case, 1920s, women got the right to vote.
So, it's been over a century women have had the right to vote.
So, my first definition, because you might say feminism is about equality between men and women.
But even back then, so even if you were to discard the second definition I gave you, where I was like, it's man-hating, blah, blah, blah.
Feminism, even back 100 years ago in the 1920s, I would even argue, it was never even about equality, even going really, really far back.
It was about securing privileges and rights for women without any accompanying or corresponding duties or responsibilities.
So, for example, by the way, just to be clear, it wasn't like men had the right to vote universally for like hundreds and hundreds of years.
And then women were just, at least as it relates to suffrage, women were just brutally oppressed.
It was only like 50 years, 50 years before women got the right to vote, that men got the right to vote.
You might say, well, hey, that was still a period of time where there was an unfair discrepancy.
That might be true, but I would say in comparison to all of human history, this is kind of a very small blip on the radar in terms of the difference.
But what I'm trying to get at is, in order for men to be able to vote, men have a duty to the country.
In order for men to be able to vote, they are subject to military conscription.
Men have to register for the selective service.
It was the case in the 1920s.
It's still the case today.
Even though we've had 100 years of feminism, raw, raw feminism, fighting for equality, men today, in order to be eligible to vote, you have to register with the selective service.
I think probably a lot of you women, especially you young women, probably don't even know what that is.
You're so blissfully, what's the polite word?
Ignorant.
Well, ignorant's not particularly polite, but you're so unaware of the differentials here.
Despite being feminists, you're not even aware of the primary mechanism in which there's an unfairness in the direction of men.
Women can vote without any duty or responsibility to this country.
But who set that system up?
How would that be relevant?
But how would that be relevant?
So great red herring.
But I'm happy to talk about that, but it still, your red herring doesn't actually address my argument here, which you would acknowledge, regardless of who set the system up, you would acknowledge that this is evidence of an unfairness or unequalness that exists between men or women, which have women advantaged over men, fair to say.
Yeah.
And I'm willing to even, why don't we bite the bullet?
You're right.
It was men who set that system up.
But that isn't a, that doesn't dismiss my position, which is an unfairness or inequality does exist.
For example, let me ask you this.
Are you pro-life or pro-choice?
Pro-choice.
By the way, I'm not going to have an abortion argument with you.
Pro-life.
What if it was the case?
What if it was the case that the Supreme Court was made up predominantly of women?
And then they actually were the ones who completely got rid of Roe v. Wade.
And not just that.
This is hypothetical.
They also just completely out, not just, we're going to let the states decide, but we're actually going to have a federal abortion ban.
Like you can't, it doesn't matter if your state wants it.
It's banned across the board.
And it was a majority of women who were in the Supreme Court.
Would you accept me dismissing your arguments for pro-choice?
Would you accept a dismissal on the basis that, well, women set that system up?
That is so confusing.
Yeah, I have like comprehension issues.
Can you shorten that question up a little bit?
Well, essentially, it's like if the Supreme Court was all women, they would never, ever do that, though.
There's plenty of conservative women who want to ban abortion.
Trust me.
However, well, what I'm trying to argue here is that it's not a your position on abortion, you would feel from your perspective, the pro-choice position.
You wouldn't entertain me saying, well, I'm going to dismiss your pro-choice arguments on the basis that it's a red herring fallacy.
On the basis.
Oh boy.
It's basically if you're making an argument, you're basically like trying to distract with something that maybe sounds good or sounds like an argument, but it actually has nothing to do.
You're not actually addressing my argument here.
So it's a red herring.
It's like, well, what about this thing?
It's not really related.
So in this case, I don't think you would accept a dismissal of pro-choice arguments or positions if it happened to be the case that women were in power, but they were like conservative women.
I would still.
You would still make arguments for pro-choice, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
It wouldn't dismiss your argument for why like pro-choice.
If it was a bunch of women deciding for the entire U.S. that you couldn't get abortions, I would still object to that.
I would still object to that.
So here's what I'll do.
We can get into in a little bit who set that system up.
Happy to have that conversation.
And you know what?
Just for the sake of conversation, we can even grant that it's men.
I have some, I contest it a little bit.
I would, the group, I think you would have some points.
Are you saying it's not men who set this up?
There's a lot of women that are.
say there are a few women I would say it has to do with I'm not disregarding women I would I would say who has the reins of power.
The people in power, the elites.
And whether or not they're men, whether or not they have a penis seems kind of irrelevant to me.
But back to this.
So, okay, feminism in terms of duties.
So feminists have had robust, robust, what's the best way to put this?
Look, I'll just get back to this.
Feminism is not an equality movement.
It's women's advocacy.
Men have a duty to this country.
Can you tell me a duty that women have?
Didn't you just say like a duty for a woman is to stay home with her children?
That's not the discourse.
Can the government force you to get pregnant?
No.
Can the government force you to have children?
Yes.
What?
No, the government is not.
The government is not allowing abortion.
It's not forcing her to have children.
It's not to kill them.
Once you already have them, you can't get an abortion.
But you got pregnant.
They didn't force you to get pregnant.
They don't want you to kill them.
Okay, so then you also don't allow birth because that's different than getting pregnant.
Okay, so if I got raped, the government can force me to have that child if they take it.
I feel like it's supposed to be, it depends on the position.
First off, the situation.
Many states allow for abortion and the government doesn't ever force women.
Wait, they're not forcing pregnancy, but they're forcing birth.
Because do you know how much abortions there's a year?
Doesn't matter.
None of your business.
Yeah, everybody loves people.
It's people dying.
Like 25% of genocide?
That doesn't fucking be a lot of people.
They're people at all.
25% of Gen Z has died through abortion.
It's actually insane.
And also to make a couple of corrections, yes, you're right, Brian.
It was set up by the elites.
That way they could tax double the amount of people, so big daddy government could bring in more money.
Number two, women could actually be homeowners back in the day, as long as they weren't married.
Because once you're married, then you know your, your husband is the one who provides the house.
And to go back to the voting point, can you tell me what good has come from women being able to vote?
Because most married couples crazy women lean in the direction of liberalism, men lean in the direction of conservatism, and so if every household is voting, it cancels out the vote.
No, and and i'm not just saying that women shouldn't be able to vote I think that the standards for voting should be higher in general, like it should be, like you have to have contributed something to society, be a homeowner, be in some type of standing.
You know what I mean, but I think that women being able to vote was the first step that basically caused the feminization and the liberalization of the United States.
I what you don't want to say.
I want my husband to be able to have a say.
I didn't get married, I don't get a say.
Well, I think it depends.
Again, I think it should be, depending on your standing, but because of the propaganda, women lean very liberal and the liberal policies are what are literally ravaging and destroying this country.
That's why the ice raids in Minnesota are happening right now, because liberalism, we have this toxic empathy.
To go back to a point that I brought up earlier, where we want to import the third world, show them all this, you know, kindness and generosity and, in fact, give them rights that even Americans don't have.
Illegals were coming over here and getting cards that they could use that were topped up every month.
I think it was like, you know 1500, something like that per month.
They were being given accommodation in luxury like um, basically hotel setups, whereas we have service members who serve for this country who are literally homeless on the streets.
That's not cool.
How come illegal people coming to this country get more rights than the average American?
You're right.
Honestly, I don't think there should be any, even legal immigration, until we can provide for like yes, I agree, until we can provide for veterans and homeless.
That's crazy that we're gonna allow people to come here illegally or legally and they're gonna either pull, draw from our welfare system.
Look, I actually, you know, I think you can actually to some degree have welfare, but you definitely can't have welfare and, uh well, a lot of either legal immigration or definitely can't have illegal immigration.
Yeah, so Australia is a prime example for this.
Like Australia is literally collapsing right now.
We have like a mixed socialized, Socialized system.
I've been taken to the hospital in an ambulance.
It was free in Australia.
To a degree, you get free health care, all of these things.
But now, because of all of the illegals that they have imported, it's drained the system so much that Australians are dying because ambulances are not arriving in time.
The hospitals, there's literally not enough beds for Australians inside of the hospitals.
It's causing the breakdown in the fabric of society in Australia.
And this is not just me talking from not knowing.
Like, I haven't been there in 10 years, but my family's there.
And the other thing is, when you're subservient to your government because they're just giving you stuff, when the government says jump, your response is how high?
That's why we have freedoms in the United States because we're not relying on big daddy government.
During COVID lockdowns, it was complete tyranny in Australia, tyranny, because the government was able to tell them, hey, you can't go outside, you can't do this, you can't do that, because everyone was subservient to them.
Nearly every single week, my mom would call me and say, I'm so grateful that you're in the United States because you still have some semblance of freedom there.
Women's Military Conscription Rights 00:15:27
Can I say we hit a couple different points here?
So, can I say something about the abortions?
Or we're not going into that?
Well, here's maybe time permitting, we can get into it.
But I was talking about what duties do women have, and you were saying, well, women can be forced.
Then you brought up abortion.
Yeah, the government can't force women to get pregnant.
But you can force birth because you cannot get an abortion.
Yeah, but this wouldn't be a duty.
This wouldn't be a bad thing.
Accountability as women should be provided because, yes, if you are living in a state and you're not using right protection or doing anything to protect getting pregnant when you know you cannot get an abortion, then that's on the woman.
But it really depends where you are and how you reflect on your actions, I feel like.
I'm going to follow up with that.
First, I have a couple chats coming in here.
I'm going to let them come through.
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Question for each panelist.
Do you support women's suffrage?
What?
Suffrage women.
Women's right to vote.
Are you in favor of it?
Yes.
Yeah.
He was asking that.
Yeah.
No.
I don't know.
I don't really know too much about that.
Okay.
Yes.
Yeah.
My husband just gets two votes, so.
W. Married households should vote.
Married households should vote.
And then I think he has another one coming in here.
Thank you, Ogle.
Really good to see you, man.
It's been a while.
Thank you, man.
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Question for panelists.
Should a man be able to unilaterally terminate a pregnancy?
What is the question?
I think they have a say in abortion or law.
Do they?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The question is.
Should they determine?
Unilaterally.
I think it should be 50.
Honestly, 50-50.
But depending on where this relationship is, financially emotionally, the woman should have a majority of the say because it's affecting her body and affecting both of their lives.
So I feel like that should be like a communication for the two and not one person's decision.
The question here would simply be: assuming the woman wants to keep the pregnancy, should the man be able to force the woman who otherwise wants to keep the pregnancy to get an abortion?
No, but I think he has the option to not be in the baby's life.
He doesn't, though.
But I don't know if you heard that, Bella.
Do you want to get popcorn?
I'm just against abortion, period.
Oh, talking about the choice, yeah.
If he doesn't want to have the choice to force the woman to get an abortion if she doesn't want it, like, if he doesn't want it, wait into the mic, please.
If he doesn't want it, yeah.
That's an interesting one.
Even pro-choice people are going to fight you on that one.
I'm against abortions, and especially if they both were willing having sex, both consent to it, they shouldn't have an option to kill it.
What about you?
Um, I think the guy should have a say.
You know, it's his child.
Again, the question is: the woman wants to keep the kid.
Should the man be able to force her to get an abortion if he doesn't want to have a kid?
I think he should, because you know, I mean, if we have the choice to not keep the baby, and it just depends on the law, you know, right?
Like, he's gonna have to be pro-choice or pro-life.
You could say pro-choice, I just don't care.
Even pro-choice people are definitely not okay with this, but okay.
Um, what about you?
And pro-life crossboards, okay, pro-life.
So, the question is: if man woman's pregnant, she wants to keep it, he wants to abort it.
He can't force her to kill it.
Should he be able to be like, you gotta get an abortion?
Yeah, of course.
He can voice his opinion.
No, but like, legally, wow, I mean, obviously, the answer to the question is, yeah, no, I think whether you're pro-choice or pro-life, you're probably going to arrive at the same conclusion on that for most people, anyways.
But Ogle, really good to see you, man.
Thank you for your TTSs.
Appreciate it, guys.
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Okay, so I wanted to, I guess, come back to I'm still a bit caught up here.
So, the question is: do women have any duties to the like any duties?
They do not have legal duties.
No.
No legal duties.
That's the crux of my argument here: is that in order for men to have a right, it comes with a corresponding responsibility.
Women are afforded a essentially a privileged place in society because you don't have any duties.
Women don't have duties.
What's the men duty thing?
Yeah, they don't have military conscription, forced military conscription.
So, it's just like if they need the men, they have to go.
Yes, the government can force men to go to war.
The government can't force women to go to war.
There's not a law for it.
There's no law for it on the books.
And we see this playing out in many, many military conflicts.
For example, in Ukraine, we have a well, we got two Russian women here.
You see complete barbarism in Ukraine where you have military police abducting men.
Like it's you think what ICE is doing is fucked up.
Ukrainian military police abduct men in the street and then force them into the military.
All the men in Ukraine, when the Ukraine war broke out, had to stay in the country.
If you're between the ages of like 18 and 60 or 65, as a man, you could not leave the country.
If you're a woman, okay.
So, what you had happen when war broke out is all these 18 to well, pretty much any age Ukrainian woman went to London, they went to Sweden, they went to Stockholm, they went to Oslo, they went to Miami, they're in the club, they're having they're having their hot girl summer, they're fucking and Ukrainian men are dying.
So, you want to talk about privilege?
You want to, oh, women are so oppressed.
Nah, actually, I don't think anyone here said that's feminism, that's feminism.
Women oppressed, men oppressors, women oppressed, women had it worse.
That is feminism.
Are you denying that feminism, the lens and framework of feminism, is not women have it worse than men?
That is the entirety of feminism.
To be honest, I just thought it was about equality.
Yeah, but we already have us said it's worse than men.
Women have less rights than men.
But I don't think that's what anybody's doing.
But explain to me why after 100 years of equality, that women have no duty to the United States.
Women shouldn't be subject to military conscription.
They're not subject to the selective service.
They're not subject to the draft.
Why is that?
Why, if feminism is about equality, shouldn't feminists, but shouldn't feminists be actively fighting for women to be subject to military conscription?
Where are they?
Where are the feminists who are fighting for this?
I think your definition of feminism is completely different than what we're saying.
Yeah.
Like I'm not hitting with anything you're saying.
It's not his.
This is what the society is.
I don't care about definite.
So for example, if I were to define, hmm, what would I say?
If I were, well, tell me what your definition of feminism is.
Let's start there.
Just that.
Like, I just like women empowerment.
Like, we get to do we through feminism.
No, but I agree with you in the charitable sense.
I'm not saying that men and women have to have everything like exactly.
Like, I'm not saying that.
What was my situation?
I'm saying that we, like, women.
You gotta.
Like, we can work now.
We can own houses now and stuff like that.
They always could.
We couldn't.
I'm not going to like lie or gaslight.
There were some either bank policies or procedures or sometimes even laws that may have been or in fact were discriminatory towards women.
But those have all since been overturned because of the movement.
Right.
And we can have a discussion on the effects of that.
And look, I'm fine with it, really, I guess.
But ultimately, when we're talking about equality, I don't think you can ever make an argument that feminists really care about true equality.
Feminists.
You don't care about it, though, because you would be in the streets fighting for yourself and other women to be drafted.
But you're not.
You can't.
Okay.
There could be women that would want to do that.
There definitely is.
No, It's not about what women want.
Nobody wants to be drafted.
This is something that people don't, like, don't want to be.
Like, imagine advocating for something that would conceivably negatively affect you.
That's the issue with feminism.
You only seek equality in the ways and frameworks that would benefit women.
But arriving at equality where women will not reap a benefit, you will not fight for it.
In fact, if we do attempt to get equality between men and women, but it somehow inconveniences women, you'll actually fight against it.
You'll fight against the attempt for equality.
So you can't call feminism an equality movement if you would actually actively fight against equality to secure the benefits or privileges or rights for women that perhaps they have that are even better than men's own.
I don't see how just fight against the people having to get drafts.
Well, I think we should draft women.
Amy, you know, she wants to repeal the 19th century.
I personally have a radical.
I think, in fact, as a perhaps not revenge, but we should maybe only send women to war for a couple decades.
See how that goes.
But I think they're not going to die.
No, they're not going to talk to each other.
No.
But look, I think we should draft women.
Women should be drafted.
And there will be issues.
In Israel, there's a lot of women in the military.
We're speaking about women and all that stuff.
I think men should have the choice if they would like to be in the military.
See, that's where I come out with colleagues.
It's not just about women.
Yes, getting like what they want.
I feel like with equality, men and women should be equal.
Women get the choice if they want to be in the military.
Men should have the choice if they want to be in the military.
But that's the only reason why we have the army.
We do.
Well, the thing is, so you can volunteer, obviously, to be in the military, and women can volunteer too, which I actually think if women have the ability to voluntarily join the military, we should definitely be able to force women into the military.
Well, I don't think it should be forcing anybody.
What if we don't have an army?
Hold on.
But I agree with you in this.
We're not forcing anyone.
We'll die.
I'll address that super quick.
Russia's coming.
No bad things should ever happen.
There should never be war.
Nobody should ever be victim of a crime.
But while people are victims of crimes, like for example, you'd agree that in a society where there was never any crime, we wouldn't need police, right?
Right.
However, we live in an imperfect world where crime does exist.
And for this reason, we need police to either prevent or investigate crimes.
And so in that same way, we live in an imperfect world.
Even if we lived in the United States of America utopia, where things were perfect here, who knows?
Maybe there's a belligerent other nation that wants to come here and wants our resources, wants our land, or wants to rape our women.
And so we should have a military to defend against potentially aggressive outsiders.
Now, geopolitics has evolved really substantially, but I mean, in the past, the reason you had an army was basically like that tribe, that group, that state, that nation over there, they want our land.
And when they take our land, they're going to kill the men.
They're going to rape the women.
And so sometimes, well, I'll just say this.
You have people who volunteer for the military.
The government, nations, are not going to relinquish their ability to force its parentheses, male, citizenry into mandatory military service.
Because in some scenario where you had like some, well, I guess in any situation, you could always like change laws or whatever.
Even if they did away with the draft, you could just pass a new law.
Like, okay, we need to, we need a draft again.
So it's like, even if you did away with the draft, they would just pass new laws.
But given the fact that nations are not going to relinquish their ability to force their citizenry into potential military conflicts, I think from that perspective, we need to, we shouldn't be talking about what should be.
We have to talk about, okay, well, here's the scenarios.
Here's all the circumstances.
How should we arrange things given what is?
I'm not talking about what should be.
I'm talking about what is.
Since men do have to be who are forced, well, who have to be subject to military conscription, I think we should have women subject to military conscription too.
I would also just be in favor of, I'd be in favor of just getting rid.
Maybe this is more extreme than Amy's take.
It wouldn't be rolling back rights for women.
I think we should just get rid of universal suffrage entirely.
So it's not just women.
I think a lot of men probably shouldn't be voting too.
I think it should be you have a stake in the country and you can get that stake through military service.
I think probably more men would take that trade.
I want to vote.
I'm going to join the military.
But women would be able to do that too.
They can volunteer too.
And that way women can get the right to vote.
I think you can do other things too.
Like you could do, You know, you own land or something like that.
Women can, yeah.
Why is it that women aren't required to be drafted?
Uh, why is it that women aren't uh because there's a law?
Well, yeah, but why?
Because when they were fighting for the right to vote, they weren't like well, but also sign us up for the military.
Well, there's a couple reasons.
It's there's a couple reasons.
So, the first is uh, women are not, I'm not trying to be offensive, uh, women are not uh particularly good soldiers in combat.
So, why would you want equality?
How about this?
Uh, the one who's child-free, the one who's child-free, they can be drafted.
The one who wants to stay home, I have a kids, they just stay home with their husbands.
Reasons for Draft Exemption 00:02:51
I don't see that it's as simple as like, do you believe that equal rights should come with equal responsibilities?
And if your answer to that is yes, then that means that you should be down for the draft.
And if you're not down for the draft, then you do believe in women's supremacy, which is Brian's functional definition for feminism in 2026.
It's really that simple.
Do you believe that equal rights should come with equal responsibilities?
And if your answer is no, I wouldn't want to be drafted, then you do, by virtue of that, believe in woman's supremacy, even if you haven't thought of it that way.
I can see that.
I agree.
I mean, I do think responsibility.
Sorry, yeah.
No, I do think that the responsibilities and the requirements should be the same, it should be equal.
I don't, I take it back.
I'm not going to war.
So, you're not a feminist anymore?
Let's go.
She's not a feminist anymore, Brian.
We red-pilled her.
Let me fight for my question.
But if you really think about it, and this doesn't just apply to the United States, this applies to almost any country where you have universal suffrage.
There's like maybe two or three countries where women have to do mandatory military service.
The rest, it's exclusively either subject to military conscription or you actually actively, they do in a lot of countries, men have mandatory military service.
It's not just well, in wartime, draft time.
No, like I think in Israel, right?
In a lot of Asian countries, a lot of the men have to, maybe I shouldn't say a lot of Asian countries, but I think it's the Philippines.
I think there's a couple of I don't know the exact Asian countries.
There is mandatory military service for men.
I'm not sure if the UK, I'm not sure, but I think the UK women can be drafted because I think they brought that in like three years ago.
No, you come there.
Yeah, women can be drafted.
It got brought in.
I'm pretty sure.
Obviously, I'm not sure.
Just know if you've got like mental health problems.
Yeah.
And the UK, I'm sure everyone.
Can you Google it, please?
Because we could be wrong, but I think UK can women.
Because I remember a couple of years ago being in the talks, but obviously I'm not sure if it actually does happen.
Currently, there's no conscription draft in the UK for men or women.
Service is entirely voluntarily.
Yeah, we don't get women eligible for combat roles, but that's not related.
In Israel, unless you have a reason not to go, so you're supposed to go.
Like, you have to get a reason not to go to the army.
Religion, for women, it's religious reasons.
I didn't go because of religious reasons.
Or if you're not capable, like medically for guys.
What if she's pregnant?
No, that's yeah.
I think that's a good idea.
But it's because you're incapable of Israel is a very small country, so it's in need, I guess, more.
IQ Test Ratings 00:09:35
Yeah.
Oh, we're going to get into okay.
Uh, ask everyone to rate their own looks face, body, total on a scale of zero to ten.
You can't pick seven, so give me uh zero to ten for face, body, and then total, starting with you.
Face 10, body 10.
Period.
So total 10, I'm assuming.
Total 20.
Well, you don't add that up, but 10 out of 10.
Okay, we get it.
What about you?
I think face like 8, body 9.
8, 9, so 8.5 or 8.5, I guess.
What about you?
10 all around.
10, 10, 10?
Okay.
Amy, what about you?
Phase 6, body 8.
No, you're a 10.
You can't pick 7.
I would have picked 7.
I would have picked 7 also.
I'd like to.
Send you the one above 7.
What about 8?
Face 8, body 8.
Wait.
Okay, 8.
What about you?
Can I say something first?
Okay, I'll say.
Sure.
Phase 6, body 3, all around 5.
But I want to say something.
It doesn't mean my confidence.
I'm just, I feel like I'm just very accurate to what the beauty standards are.
And I'm not standing there.
Tens are people like Margaret Robbie or whatever.
Yeah, like we can't be.
The question is not how confident you are, how much you love yourself.
Because if so, I would say a nine, let's say.
But I'm just, in reality, I know that I'm around a five or a six or whatever.
So it doesn't mean that I don't think I'm pretty analogy of that.
Face five, body five.
Girl, at least a 10.
But I know the boys love me in Miami, so the boys love me in Miami.
You're so hot.
There's no way you're a five.
They love you every face.
Hey, I just don't want any backlash.
How can you at least be a ten?
I know.
I'm sorry.
Honestly, you've been being very high up on my scale.
And I'm biased.
I am high in the Miami.
So I'm just like not much.
What about you?
It's five across the board.
Okay, what about you?
Well, I'm Russian, so I think it's like maybe phase four and body three and a half for that.
Okay.
I give myself a 4.5, 4.5, 4.5 across the board.
Oh, we could do 0.5s.
I didn't know.
Oh, yeah.
It is what it is.
Is that the rating for yourself?
You are higher than average.
That's my rating.
Can you rate us?
Yeah, let's do that.
I would love this.
Yes.
Yep, we'll do that.
We'll do that.
We'll do it.
Give it to me.
Roast us.
It's cool.
What is it?
Pump the brakes there.
Okay.
What's that?
Yeah, we'll do that in just a moment.
We'll do the looks ratings in just a moment, but I have a few more questions for you guys.
Going around the table, rate your personality on a scale of 0 to 10.
Okay.
I'd say I have some questionable qualities about my personality.
I'd say like an 8.
Wait, hold on.
Let's dive into that.
Questionable.
Questionable qualities about my personality.
Bipolar, are you?
What's going on?
No, not bipolar.
She stems too much.
I'm just a little autistic.
I would say I'm autistic.
I'm diagnosed Autistic.
You have autism?
Yeah.
Me too.
Me too.
Oh, really?
Twins?
Twinsies.
Well, I think, I mean, does autism.
So, okay, are you like socially awkward?
How does it manifest itself?
Well, I'm very dyslexic.
I have very bad ADHD.
When the camera hits a certain angle, you just see me kicking my feet this whole time.
But that doesn't mean that your personality is lies.
I would say it reflects on my personality.
It makes me funny.
I'm not going to lie.
Like, it makes me funny.
I have very literally the same exact answer as Ren.
She's saying that, like, I love my personality.
I would say I love her personality.
10 all-around, but like we can't hang around anyone because some people are.
Oh, you look at this.
Like, holy shit.
Shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
Like last week, someone we have a conversation literally just like overlapping each other.
Like, only a flow state to be the truth.
I think you guys have really good personalities.
No, like, I love my personality.
I just do say there's some qualities about it that scares me.
It's an explosive.
What was the rating?
I like how you said it makes you think 8.5, actually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Personality score?
Like a 7.
7?
10.
No shame.
Hell yeah.
I'd say probably about an 8 as well.
Yeah.
What about you?
I'd say to the public, probably around a 4, but like to my close friends and people that know me, probably a 9.
You're a 10.
Okay.
I would say a 9.5.
In personality.
Yeah, 10.
Personality is a 10.
Okay.
I guess a 9.
All right.
What about you?
7.
All right.
What about you?
Yeah.
We don't want the table.
4.5 again?
It's hard to say, you know.
Hey, Brian, are we getting pizza?
Are you allowed to?
Yeah, probably later, though.
It's going to be later.
Are you hungry?
Yeah, yes.
I'm hungry.
This is cookies.
I give myself.
I don't know.
I know I, well, we can pick seven for this one.
I'll go with seven.
Okay, good.
I'll go with seven.
I'll go with seven.
All right.
What?
Hmm.
Let me see if there's any other ratings that we have.
How smart?
Oh, yeah, that's a good one.
I feel like.
What do you rate your intelligence on the scale of 0 to 10?
All around?
Yeah, I guess.
Autism probably helps.
Yeah, I mean, dyslexia does help with that.
I would say it's probably like, oh, okay, wait a minute.
It's also based on how much knowledge you have.
I feel like it's 6.5.
6.5?
Okay.
Like at home scale, so like a 5.
Okay.
Wait, who here has taken an IQ test?
Anybody take an IQ test?
When I got diagnosed with dyslexia, a little closer to the mic.
Oh, when I was diagnosed with dyslexia, they had to do like an IQ test on me.
Okay.
I forget what the number it was, but it was pretty high.
Okay.
Okay, girl.
Intelligence.
Oh.
What'd you say?
It's kind of mature.
Well, because I'm like more educated on like specific topics because I like hyper-fixate on something and I just know a dummy amount of things about it.
So autism.
Something else.
I have no idea what I'm talking about.
So I was.
I mean, if 10 is like Einstein, right?
I mean, it's my job to be informed about what's going on in the world.
However, when it comes to things like math, I literally don't know my times tables.
I know my nines and my tens and my ones.
You know what I mean?
Like, sorry, it just depends.
I'd say overall maybe like 7.5.
I'll give myself a 5.
Okay.
By the way, on all these scales, 5 would be average.
Some people.
I think it's worth clarifying because some people might look at it from the school grading.
They'll think like, oh, a C, which would be a 70.
Like, that's average.
No.
It's not like the school grading.
What about?
I would say based on knowledge and also math and all that, probably.
I don't want to be too cocky, but an eight.
An eight.
Is it eight?
Numbers of pies.
What's this?
With serenity.
Serenity, can we?
I forgot to go over this.
Can we just have you like scoot it in?
Because here, I'll just explain super quick.
We have this angle here.
Yeah.
But like what ends up happening, you can be out of frame a little bit.
So just try to scoot in a little.
That was my mistake for nothing.
No, it's okay.
No, I keep moving.
I move around a lot.
Sorry.
I would say five average.
Five average.
Okay.
What about you?
I go with a 7.5.
Okay.
What about you?
7.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe a 6 or 7 for me, anyways.
6 or 7.
So like a 6.5.
Maybe it could be around there.
It's hard to see.
I'm saying based on the women I've met, and especially in the States, no offense, they have a lack of knowledge.
The education system.
Yeah.
It's not fucking awesome.
Well, it's also, there's different kinds of intelligence.
But I took an IQ test.
What'd you get?
121.
But I also took it.
I took it two, three years ago at like 5 a.m. I was tired as fuck and I took it on my iPad.
Before I was going to go to the house, I was doing an IQ test.
Right before I went to the bottom.
Yeah, that's the best test.
So I think maybe I could have gotten a few points higher.
And I took the you got to be careful with these ones.
Excuses.
I know.
Don't you have to pay money for them?
I always wanted to have a free one.
Oh, really?
Because you're Norway Mensa.
You remember?
It was like two years ago.
Texted me.
The Norway Mensa IQ test.
It's free.
They're not going to do this.
You do the whole thing and then they ask you for payment to know the results.
Yeah, that's fucking bullshit.
Yeah, I did that.
This one, it's totally free.
I mean, unless they change something.
Can you write it down for me?
I actually want to like it.
Yeah, are you writing it down for me?
Yeah, it's Norway.
Oh, tell us that it's an IQ test.
I'll remind you guys off.
You can Google that.
You'll find the test.
Jackie Chan On Beauty Standards 00:12:25
So, yeah.
But the problem with some of these IQ tests is you can take different ones and get like really different, like 10, 20, 30 points differences.
So you got to be.
Some of them are just trying to kind of cater to your ego a little bit.
Some of them are kind of bullshit, but whatever.
It's like ChatGPT at gaslights you all the time.
Just like Chat GPT.
Okay.
You can kind of get how you treat it.
Oh, yeah, I did see that.
That was funny.
For the women who are, we have.
I'm just going to stick with you three.
So we have 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 8, 9.
Can you tell me a male celebrity, like somebody we could Google, who's like either your celebrity crush.
She's ready.
Or who you think is a 10.
Matthew McConaughey.
Who?
He's cute.
Wait, really?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
He's like, it is.
Damn, she gave me the shade.
Right.
Matthew McConaughey.
Shit.
I can't lie.
I know him.
I'll get you guys to get it.
Wait, you do?
Yeah, I'll link you guys up.
I think he's married, though, right?
Oh, shit.
I'm not a homeworker.
Would you wait, but he's so for real.
If he was single, completely.
Even if he's married, you're no, no, I want to do that to no lady.
If she already is married to him, go, girl.
She's already married to him.
I don't know who it is.
I don't want to know.
I'll get you guys.
Okay, so I think everybody knows who Matthew McCaugh is.
How about anybody else?
I don't.
Oh, you don't marry Google, please.
Is it any other guy?
I don't know.
I wouldn't say he's like a actually, no.
Ryan Gosling, is that who acted in the notebook?
Yeah.
Yeah, him.
Okay, do like young.
Yeah, show us Matthew and Ryan Gosling.
And then who's a 10 male for you?
Jackie Chan.
Come on.
I know he's an ass.
I mean, like Asians?
Yes, I'm deadass.
Jackie Chan.
He's 70.
I don't care about that.
He used to be good looking on his young age.
Look, I mean, he's like.
Have you sold what he looks like even out of 70?
He's a pretty handsome guy.
Right.
No.
Okay, wait, girl, hold on.
Honestly, so hot.
Get this girl a kilt.
I love you.
I hear crack.
This is Shosmary.
Show us Mary.
This is not cool.
You like him?
I'm very different than you.
Is it his looks or his accent, though?
All the above.
Bro, he's quite good.
Yeah.
He's like a conservative man, super conservative.
He is very young.
You would still do that?
She's his looks.
She only plays play.
She'll give him a pass on that, I guess.
Okay, and then who was the other guy?
Do you have that, Mary?
Yeah, look up the link.
We all know that.
Go ahead.
Oh, yeah.
See my type.
Wait, boy.
All right.
Who's a Jackie Chan?
Okay, Bella, what about you?
I don't know that many celebrities, so I was going to say.
Like TikTok or somebody.
Anybody famous, right?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, young Will Smith.
Yeah, well.
Okay, so is that your type?
Black guys?
Oh, my God.
What?
I don't have a specific preference, but like, I kind of.
Okay.
No, this is a story.
Okay, we know who Will Smith is.
Wait, question: the guy who it's complicated with, is he black?
She got a type, okay.
She's got a type.
You got a type.
That's okay.
That's okay.
Look, I'm partial to white, Asian, and Latina women.
That's what I'm saying.
That's multiple types, I guess.
I don't know.
That's like you don't have a type.
They look different.
Yeah, but anyway.
Very different.
But, okay, she has a type.
She's got.
What was that?
Can you check?
Did something spill?
What fell?
Oh, okay.
Sorry, guys.
Behind the scenes, not a big deal.
Not a big deal.
Okay.
Oh, Natalia.
Thank you for the gifted 20 whatever memberships.
Guys, W's in the chat for the homie, Natalia.
Very much appreciate your support.
Thank you, Natalia.
And okay, so fucking Jackie Chan.
What the fuck?
He's so.
Are you joking?
He's so hot.
I have seen him younger, and I can agree with you.
Oh, who's the other martial arts guy?
Bruce.
Yeah, for sure.
No, no, no.
There's another guy.
Athletic guy.
I see.
Jetly, do you fuck with me?
I don't know.
Fill him up.
Probably.
Jet Lee.
I mean, Jet Lee kind of mogs Jackie Chinese.
Really?
Let me see.
Jet Lee mogs FLO.
Jackie Chan's horror.
Wait, this is.
He's cute.
She's really cute.
She's cute.
Do you look at younger pictures?
It's not a bad looking guy.
These are older guys, though, Simon.
Okay.
Tell me a woman who you think is a 10.
Oh, woman.
Oh.
Oh, wait.
You should let me think more on this one.
Madison Beer.
Oh, Angelina Jolie.
Megan.
Young Megan Fox.
Young Megan Fox.
Yeah.
Okay, what about you?
Taylor Swift.
What?
Okay.
She looks.
She's pretty.
Taylor's a big woman.
She's gorgeous.
Maybe in Scotland.
She's a Scotland 10 or something.
She's Barbara Paulin.
I don't know.
Barbara.
She's a good one.
Medicine beer.
Oh, yeah.
Wait, can you?
You can't eat at the table like that.
You got to eat back there.
Oh.
Popcorn's going to be way too noisy until.
Why are you taking one?
Take one.
I don't want one on pain.
As male.
She's got a high.
What's it called?
Where's that pink?
Appetite.
Metabolism.
Metabolism.
Didn't you hungry truth?
Yeah, we can get it a little later, though.
Bang into the mic.
Okay.
So.
Megan Fox.
Yeah.
And then Angelina Jolie.
So you're a 10.
She's those are 10s in your eyes.
They're like 20s in my eyes.
No, but you can't go above a 10.
Do you think Sidney Sweeney's a 10?
No.
Sorry.
You look like you're gorgeous.
You're her twin.
I don't.
People always tell me I look like Sidney Sweeney, but I don't.
I don't believe maybe like younger Sidney Sweeney.
I could see it more, but like you guys have similar, some similarities.
I think we're like, I think she's also like, I like looked this up the other day.
She's like German European.
No, I don't think she's European.
Is she?
German is European.
Can you look up what she is?
Because I'm pretty sure that's like the same exact thing as I am, and that's why people tell me I'm like, we'll just take your word for it.
She's a little green-eyed blondie, too.
European.
You probably mog her a little bit.
Thank you.
Face in the face department.
Someone commented the bus compartment.
Yeah.
She totally must have been.
She doesn't even have big boobs, honestly.
They're not that big.
Oh, wait, girl.
That's why.
She's got like D's.
F. They're not that big.
I think she's far more attractive.
For her body, she has big boobs.
Yeah, she does.
She has big boobs.
Let's not pill up.
What is her breast?
Okay, we don't need to talk about her body.
Of course, you're going to.
Yeah, all women compared to you have 10 boobs, okay?
Damn.
Yeah, I want to show you guys.
I'm going to really quick pull up some photos, though.
Mary, if you can pull up the Discord, these are some women who I don't know if I would give them tens, but because I don't think 10 exists, but I definitely, I think we could probably confidently say that they're nines, maybe definitely at least eights.
Mary, go ahead and pull it up.
Oh, Angela White.
She's a well, no, hold on.
Except, hold on.
The bottom one, don't show that one.
Like the next one?
Yeah, yeah.
That's like.
That's like my personal preference.
Yeah, they're like Asian looking.
We have the same tension.
No, show the.
There's the groupings.
Remember, we went over it.
Tate McCray is also so hot.
It starts with like Adriana.
Adriana.
Yeah, yeah.
Here, show the first girl, though.
Go ahead.
Tape the crazy.
All right, so I'm going to show you some photos.
I'm showing you some photos here of some women.
Next, Adrian Pilima.
Oh, yeah, Adrenalima.
Adrenalima.
She's gorgeous.
Is that Adam Sandler's wife?
Justin Timberlake.
Justin Timberlake.
Jessica Gillie.
Oh, Justin Timberlake.
Next.
Purchase.
Next.
Purchase.
These are yours.
Is that what you said?
I mean, these are just women.
Good.
Women are so beautiful.
Right?
Next.
Wow.
Now, Jessica Alba, some people, you know, she's very petty.
I think she's gorgeous.
She's gorgeous.
She's very attractive.
I think she's one of them.
They have that 2000s look to them, too.
Yeah.
And those women are just dropped.
Naturally, Y2K.
Next.
Now, these, I think, are.
Go off.
She's also a lovely person.
Yeah.
You've met.
She's a lovely person.
Is that a female?
It is technically a male, but that is for destroy hair.
She.
Yeah.
So, anyways, but seeing those pictures.
Still 10, still 10?
Yep.
I would say now.
Listen, when I hear older, that's what I strive for.
I would say now for Mia too.
Bro, look at them.
They're unreal.
Look at your eyes.
You have gorgeous eyes.
Okay, so they're unreal.
You're gorgeous.
Stick to what you first saw before seeing those women.
Yes.
See that other woman drop your comparison is the thief of joy.
It doesn't mean that I think I'm more confident than most of the women I know.
It doesn't mean that I'm less confident.
I love myself and I think I'm very confident.
I'm just in reality that I don't look like them.
I think a very attractive trait is women who live in reality, to be honest.
Like even a very attractive woman.
It's an attractive personality trait to live in reality and to be able to look at somebody like that, compare yourself and say, okay, yeah, I'm not quite there.
I mean, or very far away from there.
A lot of guys hit on me.
And I don't think it's because I look that good.
It's just because of how you compare yourself.
Don't be sad.
It's not bad.
I'm not reality.
I'm genuinely gorgeous.
But I'm not saying I'm not.
I'm fine.
I'm just saying I'm not like them.
And yeah, personality-wise, my humor, my smartness, all I have other things that make me more attractive, and that's fine.
Everyone has, you know, their qualities.
Here's a question: Do are all women tens?
No, no, no.
Beautiful.
Closer to the menu.
Okay, but they're not all women are beautiful.
Are all men beautiful?
Yeah, no.
I agree.
Yep.
Everybody.
Everyone has their own type of beauty.
Even me.
Okay, but they're not 10.
I think you're a 10.
You're a beauty and a beast.
What does it mean to be a 10?
I think it doesn't always conclude looks.
Well, we're talking about looks.
Okay, that's what I said.
If we're talking about me about overall, there's different types of standards of beauty, I feel like.
Do you want to cook?
I don't know.
Honestly, concept.
Hold on.
I don't see concept.
You could look at somebody and think that they're a four, and then I could look at that same person and think it's a four.
But we're talking about beauty standards.
But we're talking about beauty standards.
We can all agree that Adriana Lima is a 10, right?
We're talking about beauty standards.
We're not talking about types.
But he also showed Adriana Lima when she was 20, right?
She was 20.
That's your height.
She's like 45.
She was a 10 when she was 20.
She's still a 10.
Is she still a 10 in your mind?
She has because she looks really good then.
She's like objective beauty standards, right?
Like, for example, symmetry is one of the most objective beauty standards out there.
Like, even when it comes to like architectural stuff like this, you know what I mean?
Have you guys ever seen that flip effect where you can like kind of flip your face and see how symmetrical you are?
I think that symmetry really contributes to it.
Also, weight.
And weight.
Weight as ability.
Beauty Standards Debate 00:02:32
Because how?
Yeah.
Because I've lost 60 pounds and I'm on a weight loss journey for the past a year and a half.
I feel like I'm more in, like, I go to the gym four or five times a week.
So I'm a very healthy person, but I'm still out of weight.
I'm losing a constant.
Hello?
Audio analyst.
Now we can say whatever we want.
Do you guys hear us?
Hello.
Testing one, two, three.
Hey, hello.
Pick some up, Bella.
Oh, what's up?
Oh, I lost you on.
I have sir.
Sienna Spur reposed my cover of her and that was the most beautiful thing I went.
Can you sing some of it?
No, but you can follow me at Bella's Vocals on Take.
Oh, come on.
Why does singers do this?
Why are they like ashamed to sing?
I sound so much better when I'm not like any of them.
She will really call her anything.
Well, there's thousands of people here.
It could help boost.
Well, the microphone.
Why don't you bust the cheering?
Come on, bust it up.
Why don't we do a little practice run right now?
What's the duet?
Yeah, the mic is not working.
Yeah, it's a good practice run.
It's back.
They're saying it's back.
Is it fixed?
They're saying it's back.
There's another way that it might have been accidental, but Alina, ask them if it's fixed.
Is it fixed?
Is the audio fixed?
Alina, can you ask them how long?
How long has it been out?
How long has the audio been out?
Was it like just one minute?
How long?
How long has the audio been out?
10 minutes?
30 seconds.
Two minutes.
Okay.
You have to slow you down.
All good.
Bella, start singing.
All right.
Back we are.
At Bella's vocals.
Bella's vocals.
Okay.
Hold on one sec.
Yo, really quick for somebody in the Discord.
Noe.
Facial Ratings Discrepancies 00:14:35
Noe, did you want to do the looks ratings things?
Do you have the info on that?
Or I can delay the little bit or you can send me a message in the DMs on Discord.
I don't even know if you're watching, but sorry about the audio issue there, guys.
I don't know if we missed anything.
I was actually able to spot it instantly because of the 300 IQ.
Oh, I think you meant the 121.
300 IQ.
Okay.
So we're trolling now.
you must hate though like it must get to you know how tall people oh do you play basketball yeah You get, oh, you look like Sydney.
Yeah.
I would be so annoyed.
I have been.
No, because I'm at this party, right?
I walk up to CI of my friends immediately.
I was like, I asked for something.
It's, you look like Sidney Sweeney.
I walk away.
Walk away right now.
You've heard it a thousand times.
I can't get enough of it.
That was a compliment.
It's not like you look like someone ugly.
I just know.
I feel like this is what I always tell people.
I feel I look like my own person.
I never, I used to never think I looked like anybody like elsewhere in this world.
And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, you're awesome.
You look like autistic, Sidney Swiss.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm just saying.
Oh my god.
That's not even what I'm saying.
I'm my own person.
I am my own person.
I feel like I look like Serenity.
Okay, can you rate us?
No.
Yeah, yeah, I can do that.
Yes.
We'll do it.
We'll do that.
Why not?
Let's do it.
We will do that segment.
Okay, so I'll give ratings here.
Okay, Bella is dying.
Bella is dying.
Wait, really quick before I get into this segment.
So wait, Bella, your boyfriend, not really boyfriend, but guy who you have been hooking up with for like a year, but you don't have a title.
Does he live here in the area?
He lives here.
He dropped us off.
I saw him.
So, wait, okay.
But you started, because you're not from Santa Barbara, and you just moved here like a couple months ago, like four or five, six months ago, something like that.
The beginning of July.
Yeah, so six months.
Did you know him?
Before?
Yeah.
No.
Oh, okay.
And it's not been a year.
It's been like four months.
Oh, four months.
Okay, I see.
I don't know.
My perception of time is not great.
Wait, wasn't it complicated with a different guy back then?
Yeah.
So this is a new guy.
Yeah.
That was a boyfriend.
Okay, that was a boyfriend, but it was complicated with him.
Yeah.
Okay.
Wait, question.
Current boyfriend, whatever.
Situationship.
It's a black guy?
Yes.
Last boyfriend, black guy?
No.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Just curious, you know, about types.
It's very checkerboard.
Checkerboard.
Checkerboard.
Latino?
Nope.
Oh, white guy.
Yes.
Because it's black and white.
I've seen like brown and black and white thinking.
White and whatever.
Checkerboard.
Wait, red?
Isn't there a red checkerboard?
Isn't it red and black?
He was ginger, actually.
Oh, lovely.
Oh, that makes sense then.
That checks out.
He was ginger.
All right, let's see.
I'm going to give the reading.
All right.
Okay, here's the ratings.
I have to, of course, start with myself.
I'll give you one positive, one negative, and then the rating.
Even if I've disagreed with you, I'm not going to be malicious and rate you unfairly low just because we disagreed on something.
I will try to be as unbiased as possible.
Just vote.
Just vote.
Yeah, I got to give a bit of a disclaimer.
Got a bit of a bit of a disclaimer.
Okay, my own rating.
I gave myself a 4.5.
This is because I, let's see, I'll give one positive.
Tall, blue eyes.
I'm 6'1.
Negatives, fat.
You're chubby.
Why'd you keep saying that?
Need to lose weight.
Need to lose weight.
Big nose.
Wait, I thought I was only supposed to do one positive, one negative.
I'm just going to go.
Oh, my God.
Keep going.
You're very critical.
People are critical of themselves, so fuck it.
Why not?
Are you okay?
Everybody gets it.
Big nose, chubby, need to lose weight, skin clarity, and poor under-eye area.
I'll leave it there.
And yeah, I'll leave it there.
4.5, 4.5.
Wait, what was the last one?
I quote?
Oh, poor under-eye area.
Oh, okay.
Dark circles.
I think I like dark circles.
I'm like, how are you moderating?
All right.
Timu Sidney Sweeney over here.
Lil Siswe do.
Yes, okay.
Let's do a facial analysis.
Can you turn that way just for a moment?
Okay, strong side profile.
Although there could be actually pretty strong, I want to say, overall.
I'm trying to see if I see any flaws.
Maybe the one immediate flaw.
Just keep looking straight.
Do you have a negative canthal tilt?
Maybe a little bit.
A little bit of a weak under eye area.
What does it hint to tilt?
Oh, the canthal tilt is like if you have downturned eyes or up.
Oh, one of my eyes is a different, almost a little bit of a different shape than the other one because I was in a car.
Yeah, there is very slight difference in facial symmetry, but it's super minor.
Yeah.
But slightly bags?
Under eyes.
You're on my college to drink no sleep.
That's probably it.
Overall, really strong aesthetics, strong facial harmony, strong facial symmetry.
Appreciate it.
Like lips well above average because typically you want to have a good bottom lip, but top lip also good, which is less common in white people, I know.
I get that a lot.
Yeah, good lips.
Possibly a bit too much.
Like the mid-face is a bit compact.
You have a restaurant.
No, I don't think you have a resting bitch face.
Oh, thank you.
No.
Really?
You look very sweet.
Perhaps you do.
Yeah, overall, you know, chat.
Also, guys, while I'm doing this, chat, what do you give, what's the rating?
What do you give?
Can we see the chat?
Wait, can you pull up the chat?
What?
There's 10,000 comments.
There's a lot.
No, 10,000 people.
Oh, there's more.
There's more than that.
10,000 people are watching.
Okay, what's her rating?
Yeah, yeah, I'd give the rating.
I would say, hmm, it's an interesting one.
Interesting one.
I want to say 6.5 or 7.
What?
Thank you.
That's crazy.
Oh, I don't care.
I don't care, girl.
Nine.
She's women.
I would say she's women.
She's the prettiest girl that was on the podcast.
Just some context for the ratings here.
So five is average.
Five is average.
And five is good.
Like, you can obviously be attractive at five.
So six, that's.
I'd say six is cute.
Six is cute.
Seven is beautiful.
The waist were going to be this before you said this.
Eight is like elite tier.
Nine is like you said.
That's like, yeah, no, I get you.
I get it.
I get what you're putting down.
I thought it was like.
Yeah, like, okay.
Five average, six cute.
Or the comment.
Seven.
Seven should be attractive.
I think more friends like me.
Seven could be beautiful.
Eight is like model tier, elite tier.
Yeah.
And then not, well, maybe nine.
You don't think she can model so many different kinds of models.
I think you can model phonogenic.
You can model him though.
So well.
Very good looking, but you guys are too sweet.
Like I said, I speak reality.
Okay.
You by the way, I'm doing face ratings.
I'm not incorporating body or whatever.
I thought it was everything.
Maybe it does rate our bodies.
But you keep everything down.
Yeah, I can't say.
I mean, if you guys want to stand up, we're not doing three things.
Nah, not a good check, then I could.
Also, I think there can be a bit more.
I think body can be a bit more subjective.
I mean, they're both subjective.
For sure.
But I think there's more disagreement on a little bit because, well, anyway.
Yeah, but you could see if someone has a pretty face.
Yeah.
Okay.
For you, can you pop your glasses off temporarily?
No, I can't see, bro.
Well, it's for a second.
30 seconds.
All right.
I can't see.
Okay.
Look straight.
Bro, I can't fucking see.
It doesn't matter.
Turn that way.
Fuck your vision.
I'm like, you can't see a thing.
Hey, girl.
Okay.
You can't see a thing.
Look back straight.
Okay.
Let's see.
I honestly can't, like, it's so bad.
What is the perception of the magazine?
No, this is like negative seven negatives.
Are you being crudely honest?
So, okay, I would say positive.
Eyesore.
Positive would be facial symmetry is decent.
Lips slightly above average.
Actually, the proportions are slightly off.
So typically you want a lower lip that's a little bit bigger.
Yeah, my lips are on the upper lip.
Your upper lip is actually.
It looks like a natural lip flip.
Looks like a natural lip flip Oh, do you have any?
I don't have any work done.
Yeah, your upper lip is bigger than your lower lip.
It's good to have a full upper lip, but the proportions are slightly off.
Although, so I give above average on the lips.
Obviously, you and me are on the same boat on this.
When you're a bit overweight, some of that goes to the face.
And so I have like facial fatness.
You start to get the jowls coming in a little bit.
And so I think probably one of the negatives is going to be because you and me, we both are, you know, need to hit Weight Watchers together.
I can stand up.
I have 0% body fat on my tummy.
Okay.
Well, from the lipo or whatever.
I've never had lipo.
No work on it.
You have 0% body fat on your belly over.
I'm very natural.
Sorry, everybody has body fat on your body.
I always say I have body fat, but I let you fix it.
I can stand up.
Okay, but there's laughter.
We're not doing body fat.
Also, face.
Yeah, no, my face is choppy for sure.
Yeah, and I mean, that's just going to be related to your overall body fat percentage.
And look, I say this as somebody who is overweight, who needs to lose weight.
It's going to have an impact on facial aesthetics.
So I would probably give you four, 4.5.
4.5, I think.
Bella.
Okay, Bella.
What's up, Twin?
I can see.
What's the gender?
Don't try to change his mind.
I don't know.
Twin.
Bro.
All right, Bella.
Where have you been?
Bella has pretty strong facial characteristics.
Can you turn that way?
Hey.
Hi.
Side profile, there are some strengths and some weaknesses.
Look back.
Okay.
Very feminine.
Very feminine face, which is obviously good.
You have good feminine dimorphism.
What are these two?
What is dimorphism?
We'll have to Google the shit after the show.
Look, keep your...
Probably the only thing...
Like, very strong feminine dimorphism for Bella.
It's like dimorphism.
I would say above average lips, good smile, good teeth, good skin clarity.
You don't wear too much makeup, right?
Depends on the occasion.
Like, are you wearing foundation or any of that?
No, I actually literally gave myself 10 seconds to get ready.
It was really difficult.
Proud of you.
Let's see.
Probably, like, honestly, one of the only negatives that occurs to me that stands out is I would say there's a bit of nostril show, which is you have a good nose.
Slightly there's a bit of nostril show.
Which I mean, it's super winter, but otherwise, I would say I want to say, wait, what did I give you?
Did I give you 6.5?
Yeah, you gave me 6.
Yeah, I'd put Belle in that range of 6 to 7.
But maybe I think I might settle.
Yeah, I think 6 to 6.5.
Maybe 7.
Maybe 7.
Come on, you don't want to say it?
six seven six seven six seven six seven um yeah so yeah Is there anything else?
Appreciate it, Twin.
And eyes.
Our eyes are like super dark.
Well, that's.
I think you can have like brown eyes can definitely be beautiful and attractive, but okay.
Where's our eyes are like super?
Look at our eyes, bro.
They're super dark, bread.
All right, our dear friend Amy here.
Do you have a mullet currently?
No, I'm just kidding.
A what?
It's an Australian.
Never mind, never mind.
Amy has very striking eyes.
She has very striking eyes.
She has, have you been?
I feel like I got fatter and you got trimmer.
Is that true?
Yeah, I probably worked.
I went through a very stressful period and lost a lot of weight, so I'm currently rebooting it back at the gym.
You got the this thing, you got good facial jobs.
It's good.
Thank you.
Good lips, good smile, good eyebrows.
I did have braces, so there's where.
Yeah, I think, I mean, maybe the only negative is I would say the facial thirds are perhaps slightly unequal.
Aside from that, pretty.
I would say I'd give you, I want to say 5.5 to 6.
I'll take it.
I gave myself a 6.
Thanks, Brian.
You over there, you gave yourself a 8, right?
If I recall.
I should have repeated everybody's ratings before I gave the ratings.
Whatever.
All right.
Let's see here.
Hmm.
Okay, positive.
Well, you have lip color, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's hard to make a determination on the true, like under if the lips are good underneath it all.
Her eyes are gorgeous.
Wait, oh, yeah, yeah, that's the one.
Adele's Performance 00:09:21
Will she still love me?
Underneath it all.
Wait, what is that song?
What is that?
I have a singing up to me, bro.
Come on.
Okay, go ahead.
No, don't know it.
Do you know how to sing?
What's that Billy Joel?
Shit.
Oh, man.
I was just listening.
Wait, did we get a raid from Andrew Wilson?
I think he might have raided us.
Yo, did we get a raid, chat?
Did we get a raid?
Guys, we're doing looks ratings.
If you just tuned in from Andrew, chat, did he raid us?
Or I know he was doing a debate or streaming or whatever.
Anyways, whatever.
Nobody.
I was hoping he would be here.
Oh, it's no doubt.
No doubt.
Okay.
It's bugged, boys, I guess.
Okay.
You have nice blue eyes, although negative canthel tilt.
I'll just leave it there.
I think I'd give you.
I think I'd give you four.
You.
Okay.
Obviously, same boat.
We're on the weight loss journey together.
I just want to say I lost in the past year and a half 60 pounds, and I've been losing.
And I see how you see your features more.
And I know that in the summer, I'll be probably like Adriana Lee.
I'm joking, but probably higher.
But yeah, for now.
Okay, nice size.
But again, I already gave the negative, so I'm just going to go ahead and I'd probably say four for you.
For you.
Okay.
I'm good.
Be for real.
I'm second.
You're so hot.
Do you want me to tell you?
You have good.
Yeah, we could do that.
Good.
I think decent symmetry.
You are wearing quite a bit of makeup, though, so it's going to be a good thing.
I am.
I don't usually wear makeup, but today I have to.
It's going to be hard to give a rating.
Do you want to go on my Instagram?
I'd say I want to say 3.75, maybe 4.
You're joking.
Can you?
It's okay.
No, she's so hot, bro.
That's crazy.
Might just not be as tight.
I think she's into you.
I am obviously.
Of course I'm into you.
Looking gorgeous.
You guys can do your collab together, I guess.
Okay, we have gals over here.
I've already lingered on it for too long.
I want to say 4.5 to the gal here.
And then I also will give a 4.5.
We're at the same house.
Three big boobs.
I think you have a really beautiful face, though.
Thank you.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you.
I think if you were like a few sizes smaller, it would really, like he said, strengthen some of your face.
You have really nice lips and eyes.
Oh, yeah.
And pretty symmetrical.
Thank you.
I also think if you also lost weight, Brian, you would also probably be like, I'm going to pull up the old photos.
Let's see young grunts.
Yeah, sing on your Instagram.
These are so beautiful, I think.
Personally.
I mean, look, I used to be trim.
I used to be way a bit less.
Every chance you peel them up.
Yeah.
Can we talk about something new?
What's that?
Can we talk about something new?
Oh my God, Dolla.
My attention's done.
Oh, my God.
Do you want to know what we're talking about?
We're getting people to go.
Tell you what, Bella.
If this conversation is dull for you, what do you want to talk about?
Abortion.
Oral sex.
What do you want to talk about?
I could be down.
About what?
Abortion?
Abortion.
Or.
Or what?
Come back, bro.
What do you think about OnlyFans?
What do I think about OnlyFans?
No, no, no.
She gets it.
What do you want to talk about?
Give us something juicy, something interesting.
Oh, you really put me on the spot.
Can I get some ideas?
Can I like pick one?
Yo, Troy, Troy, thank you for the 10 on, I think, Venmo Cash Up.
What's up?
What you got for us, Bella?
Come on.
With your sterling conversational skills, tell us what you want to.
Let me know what you want to talk about.
I would love to talk about.
How about you sing?
Sing for us, Robin.
Yes!
Woo!
Sing for us.
Just a little bit.
Come on.
Let's do a plug yourself.
What is your favorite song?
You want to be a singer, and there's thousands of people here right now.
It's a great opportunity.
You'll never be famous with it if you don't capitalize on these types of remotes.
Longest time from Billy Joel.
Do you know that song?
Probably not.
For the longest time.
You know that sounds like no prize.
Who's your favorite artist?
Could pick.
What's one of your favorite?
Did you listen to rap music?
All right, what's your favorite?
Like, what are your favorite singers?
Amy Winehouse, Adele, Santa Spiro.
Let's hear some Adele.
Come on.
Hello, you're from the other side.
Let's go.
Please.
Bella, we're so bored.
Can you please sing?
Can you just sing, Bella?
Bella, can I sing with you?
He'll get pizza.
Yeah, let's use it.
Or pizza if she sings.
Yeah, I'll do it.
Yes, come on.
You have to do it now for all of us hungry girls.
Please.
I can't let you.
Let's go.
Listen.
Bella.
Please stay.
Sing with me.
Where you are.
Don't come any close.
Shut the fuck up.
Let her sing.
Oh, I thought we were going to sing together.
No, no, no.
Let her sing.
Whoa.
You got to let her sing a little bit about this.
She didn't want to sing on her own, so I was going to help her.
Wait, what were we singing?
Or even hit some Amy Winehouse.
Where was your voice?
To be clear, this girl in front of 10 people, she's too shy.
How are you going to sing on a stage?
Oh, I love a stage.
To me, a bigger crowd is way less scary than a smaller crowd.
That makes zero sense.
Because you can't see anyone's specific opinion.
If I was doing this podcast in front of like 10,000 people, that would be like way more intense.
That would be way more intense.
But like it.
Kind of.
Sing, stay by Riola.
Y'all call me scared, bro.
Okay.
For the pizza.
I want pizza.
Yeah, come on, girl.
You got it.
If you're sounding Amy Winehouse, I feel like your voice would really suit that.
It's a little like Ross, but it's not.
Yeah.
Every girl might feel loud, too.
You don't have what it takes, Bella.
You don't have what it takes.
They tried to make me go to rehab, and I said, No, Come on.
I didn't even get that reference.
Amy Whitehouse.
Right?
Is that Amy Winehouse?
Yeah, it is.
I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure it is.
Oh, my God.
Come on, Bella.
This is your opportunity.
Play me a song.
Listen to it.
You could get Discovery.
Yeah, easily.
She will do it.
We can't.
It's like copyright.
Oh, wouldn't he singing be copyrighted?
No, no.
But if you play the instrumental, that's.
Yeah.
It'll get into automated.
Are we all singing?
Come on, Bella.
Come on, Bella.
Bella.
Bella.
Okay.
Sing the national anthem.
Oh, say does that.
Okay, Adele, pick one ready.
No?
Okay.
Or say, say that's wait, what was that?
So five to the ring.
All right, here, the eight ball decides it.
If it fucking lands on yes, then you gotta fucking immediately.
No delaying.
I don't know.
All right, I'm not gonna cheat it either.
Wait, oh, it landed on the corner.
Keep going.
Oh my god, this ape is dog shit.
I got good luck.
Wait, wait.
Okay, confirm I'm not moving it.
It reads, so it shall be.
Okay, go ahead.
That's a yes.
Okay.
For you.
Thank you.
Amy Whitehouse.
For the pizza.
Thank you.
So awkward with no music.
Oh, there we go.
He left no time to regret.
Kept his lips wet with his same old safe pet.
Me and my head high and my tears dry.
Get on without my guy.
We only say goodbye with words.
I died a hundred times.
You go back to her and I go back to get some pizza, please.
It's good.
Bravo, problem.
Thank you.
That's really good.
Thank you, Nikki.
Thank you.
Oh, wow.
That was cool.
Good job, Bella.
So proud of you.
Okay, moving on to the next topic here.
Let's do this.
Oh, I have to wait until we have everybody back at the table.
Minimum Income Debate 00:15:04
Okay, actually, no, we can just do this one.
What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
Two.
What did you write down here?
I said two to five mil.
Wait, hold on, Mary.
We're going to come on this angle here for a bit.
Oh, oh, oh, don't move it, Mary.
Do not move it.
Do not move it.
I think you're not right.
There we go.
Okay.
All right.
I did it.
Holy fuck.
That's okay.
There's so much titty we don't even know if it's in or out.
You can't even fucking tell.
You don't even have it, my bad.
Jesus Christ.
That was terrifying.
Holy shit.
You don't even have it.
All right.
What's your answer?
What's your answer?
I said two to five million.
Two to five million.
Yeah.
At what age do you want to get married?
At what age do you want to get married?
I'd say 30 to 32, 35.
Yeah.
And then do you want to have a career, like job or whatever?
I don't know what I want to do yet.
How much money do you think you'll be making, say, at 28?
Yearly, I would hope to be successful.
I would hope to make minimum of $800,000 yearly.
Doing what?
Don't really know yet.
I don't know what I want to do.
I mean, communication.
I would like, yeah, I'm a communication major.
I would like to do that.
I think it would be really cool to be like a news broadcaster, not going to lie.
Yeah.
That'd be good for you.
I don't know how much money that makes.
I don't know what I want to do.
Like Fox News and stuff, yeah?
They make a lot of money.
You can make that good money.
Well, if you're like Tucker Carlson.
I think it would be really cool.
Well, you make more than that if you're Tucker Carlson.
Yeah, but like a news anchor at like a local news station, I don't even think you're breaking six figures.
Unless maybe if you're in a major city, maybe they might make six figures, but 800,000, like, I don't think there's like you basically have to be in business or like yeah, I used to be a business major, but I didn't think I was gonna be like really able to like fall through that.
But there's more opportunities with communication.
Well, that's why I switched my major to communications because I feel like there's more opportunities open for more jobs.
I mean, if you're employed, nobody's rather incorporation.
A dream job for me, if I can make it, would be to be the manager of like really famous people.
Okay, managers can make money if you're not.
Like once Bella gets like she's up there.
Wait, so your whole strategy is for you to make $800,000 a year in the hopes that Bella's making multiple M's per year basically.
I'm saying if someone catch me being her manager.
So wait, Bella, she's going to be your manager?
Yeah.
I mean, it's obviously like super hypothetical.
Yeah, a little bit.
Have you guys even talked?
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, we'll talk about this.
I'm already in the start.
Are you her manager already?
Yeah, she reads my emails for me.
Yeah, I was starting her gay names and stuff.
She has a lot of random opportunity emails.
All right.
Well, two to five million, but one million, no.
I just feel like if you're at one million, that's not enough.
No.
What's wrong with you?
It's not much, because think about it.
Okay, especially living where we do.
Come on now.
You got to be making a lot of money.
And I'm talking about myself, too.
I got to be making a lot of money.
I got to get there, girl.
Wait, wait, wait.
Really quick here.
So I agree with you that obviously there's places in the country geographically where the cost of living is really high.
Yeah.
You can comfortably live anywhere in this country at $1 million.
Yeah, no.
In San Francisco, in Los Angeles, in Miami, in Santa Barbara.
One million is a lot per year.
Making a million per year, you can live anywhere and have a really...
Yeah, that's why I said realistically for me, like 800K would be what I want.
Well, no, that's what you're doing.
But for my husband, two to five mil?
I want kids.
That's expensive.
It doesn't cost $5 million for kids.
How much do your money have an opinion?
Or not opinion.
How much do your parents make?
I don't want to bring that up.
Are your parents like well off?
I'm not going to say.
Can you say what career?
No, I can't.
Are they in a business?
It's not like it's really high up.
It's not at all.
Did you grow up in a mansion?
No.
I grew up in an apartment.
Well, there's nice apartments, but okay.
What about you?
What was the question?
Sorry, I wasn't here.
What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
I honestly don't really mind.
I don't care.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm going to steal the answer of someone's answer from the first time I was here.
Which what I'm making or more.
Well, how much do you think?
That's good.
What do you think you'll make at, say, 30?
At 30?
Yeah.
Well, about to start some new job with somebody.
Where do you currently work?
Chipotle.
How much do they pay?
Is it minimum wage or it's 20?
20 an hour.
20 an hour.
We're going to work for our friend and be making a lot more.
So hopefully by 30, I will be making...
A couple mil?
No.
No, I wouldn't say that.
Maybe like 500K a year on top of like not including if my singing stuff goes well.
Doing what?
What are you going to do that makes 500K?
Life insurance agent.
Do they make 500 dummy amounts?
Yeah.
My friend is about to retire by 25.
He's 25.
Yeah, we're going to start working for him next month or something.
You're a boss.
Your friend who he does life insurance sales?
Not all right.
It's like, like not directly for.
It's not, it's like you're the middleman.
You're self-employed.
Yeah.
You're the person who got to convince.
Yeah.
You got to convince the people to go and take it.
Tails.
Yeah.
Sales.
The life insurance.
Yo, chat.
Anybody who's familiar with this industry, the life insurance industry.
It's remote sales.
It's promoted everywhere.
It's like coal and people.
Yeah.
Like there's so many different types of remote insurance.
Here, let me do this.
What's the job title that you'll have or whatever?
Insurance.
Life insurance salesman.
No, no, no, but what are you going to be selling?
Life insurance.
Life insurance.
Salesman.
It's like plans for when people pass away.
Earnings.
No, I know what life insurance is.
So life insurance sales agents in California earn an average annual salary of approximately 87,000 to 89,000 as of 2026.
Top earners, 90th percentile, often exceed 137,000 to 149,000 annually.
And you're going to make, what did you say?
400,000, 500,000?
By the time I'm 30, I mean, I probably won't be doing that.
This is encompassing people who are in their 40s, 50s, 60s.
Yeah, that's what I'm going to do now, but I'm saying, like, I'm, I'm not sure.
I mean, I don't have to.
I told you you're going to make $500,000.
I'm not saying from that.
That's also a shoe.
Okay, from what, though?
Because I asked you what?
I don't know.
Well, I'm doing hair.
That makes a lot of money, extensions and stuff like that.
Okay.
Also, the whole thinging spiel.
Also, that.
Also, hopefully, some other things.
Like, I'm not, I don't have it all laid out yet, but we're young.
How much do you do hair?
Yes.
What do you do?
Dreads, braids, and extensions.
For men or women?
Or both?
Or either.
Okay.
How much do you make currently with your side hustle?
I haven't really started actually making money from it.
The most I've gotten is like 100 bucks to do someone's hair.
But you're not hitting $500,000 with that's not now.
This is like 15 years.
You're not understanding.
But you're non-school, so you have all the free time to do the hair thing, right?
I am doing the hair thing, but I can't do it professionally until I couldn't go to cosmetology school.
And I can't do that yet.
Okay, so you're a hairstylist.
Yes.
Okay.
Hairstylist, annual Ryan.
I'm not talking about income, California.
I'm not saying that I'm going to make $500,000 a year from what I'm doing right now.
You ready?
$45,000 a year on the average for professional hairstylists who do it fully.
Okay, and then add that with.
You're a grinder.
You're going to when are you?
So, okay, so you're going to be working 16 hours a day?
I mean, if you do in Kyla Jenner hair, so yeah, probably.
Okay.
There's a Russian girl who's doing her manicure and she's like paying her.
I don't know.
Okay, so what about the 99% of other hairstylists who are not doing that?
She could be the one person.
Yeah, no, it's just.
I don't know if you heard me the past like 17 times I've said it.
I'm not saying I'm going to make $500,000 from that.
From what?
I'm saying, I don't know.
I'm 18.
I literally just, I'm an adult for the first time right now.
I just started.
I'm not even in school.
Yeah, that was it.
Okay.
Just fresh as a girl.
Bear with me now, bro.
I have hopes.
It's good to have that goes.
Thank you, guys.
It is.
I guess.
The longer you manifest it and put good energy into the world, the more I'll come back to you.
Manifest.
Manifest.
Yes, girl.
You know what I'm manifesting?
Pizza.
I'm working on it.
I'm working on it.
It's coming soon.
Okay.
And so, wait, so basically, you think, though, you're going to earn $500,000 a year.
You would want whoever you're with to make just as much as that or more.
In the perfect world, yeah.
Obviously, I'm not going to find it.
Well, there's my life and he makes a little less than me, like, whatever.
But, like, that's what I would hope for.
Okay.
What about you?
Average or more.
It doesn't really matter to me.
I make money, so I'm not.
Okay.
What about you?
As long as we can live comfortable, I don't care as much.
Wait, did you write?
I can't read this.
What did you write here?
Is it 140 or 40K?
Me?
Yeah.
I didn't write out.
Oh, that was my bad.
No, sorry.
That was you.
My bad, my bad.
You don't care as long as we're comfortable.
Also, I feel like it depends what he does.
If he's going out and working, even if he's not making as much, and then there's a guy that he just has from his parents or whatever, like that's less important to me than someone that's going and working.
What about you?
$100,000.
Okay.
What about you?
I don't have a minimum.
Okay.
What about you?
From 80 to 120.
100K.
All right.
So we got 2 to 5 million.
I hope for the best for my future.
No, no, but it's.
You got that.
But the question is, what is the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
doesn't say anything about you know ideal it doesn't say anything about that's different No, but that's the question.
What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
It doesn't say in a perfect world.
It doesn't say ideal.
It just says, I guess it implies.
In reality, in reality, I still, I would like.
You'd like what?
I'd like at least like $800,000.
So if someone's making $500,000, you wouldn't go out with him?
No.
You're going to have to date an older guy, probably.
No, I would say minimum.
Like the minimum.
That you would say like no.
Okay, minimum, $200,000.
So if he's making $100,000 a year, you're not going to go out with him.
Wait, sorry.
I want to marry though.
Wait, sorry, how much?
Can you repeat that?
$20,000?
$200,000.
I mean, $200,000.
$200,000.
Have you ever date a guy who's making that kind of money?
Like, $800,000.
She's 19.
She's 19.
It doesn't matter how old she is.
Does you date a guy who's making like over a million or 500,000?
Did you date them?
Obviously not.
No.
Everyone knows.
Noise in your life are also a money.
Yeah, but you didn't say you want that much.
No, did you just say that you want a man who's making that kind of money to get married?
Wow, so you think.
She's probably talking a little later on.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Because obviously, realistically, I want to be secure.
But you in your prime now, you know.
That's much more than that.
Now, someone who's making 28 hours is fine.
You have your chance, like your chances are now higher to get a wealthy man at your age now.
I shot my shop, but it didn't go so well.
You got to do the five.
With her?
Huh?
With her?
Oh, no, earlier when I asked the, do you want to fuck after the podcast?
No.
Question to everybody.
I gotta go.
I don't do that, by the way.
I'm a virgin.
No, but I mean, she is right.
Like, this is your arguably your best time to try to lock down.
Just also just find somebody who's away.
Yeah, I feel like 20s is more than 19, but I changed my answer to 80,000.
Okay, now she changes.
100,000.
Yeah, I'm making 100,000.
I mean, is younger or there's more chances you just have.
Just wait till my 20s, girl.
That's what I'm saying.
You're in your praying.
Yeah, no, no, 20s.
No, maybe don't.
This is even my 23.
Just wait.
I'm on that gym crime too.
Just wait.
You'll get there.
I mean, let's be like, no, it's not her girlfriend.
All right.
We have somebody bought some merch.
Jazz, thank you for the.
Oh, why is it not coming?
Hold on.
That's what she said.
Jazz, thank you for the.
It looks like you bought the hoodie.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate the support there.
Thank you.
Yeah, look, I mean, I'm going to be honest.
For you, Serenity, $2 to $5 million.
Very unrealistic.
I think that's unrealistical.
But I hope for the best.
Unrealistical.
I hope for the best.
It's very unrealistical.
But I mean, it's very unlikely that you're going to find a guy who makes that much.
In like 20 years.
Yeah, we can do really.
Like, look at what I got.
I bagged it.
To be fair, where you left this way, you probably could.
What?
Look, I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's really unlikely.
It's really unlikely.
I think American women just detach from reality.
They just.
I don't see why she can't because my baby daddy.
how many how many your baby daddy what he's His family is wealthy.
Is he wealthy?
He's the only child.
He gets all of it.
Yeah, we're talking about income.
Maybe he also makes great money.
He also makes great money.
Wanting White Kids 00:07:58
How old are his parents?
How old are his parents?
Wait, guys, quiet.
Congratulations.
Guys, quiet, please.
Don't date.
Are in their 50s?
Okay, so the parents are going to stick around for another 30 years.
He's not going to get an inheritance for another 30 years.
Like this idea that you marry a wealthy guy.
Look, obviously, if your parents are super wealthy, maybe you got a trust fund, blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera.
But they own multiple businesses.
It's not just you said you're not dating him.
But it's my kids.
I mean, I made sure my kids are going to be well off, you know?
Maybe.
But if you don't have a person, I think they'll be dead by the time our kids are older.
What if he has kids with another woman?
Ooh.
Good question.
Who's that guy who runs Telegram who has a sperm bank?
Pavel Durov.
I know who you're talking about.
He's like something Dovlov.
Yeah, yeah.
Something like this.
He shows a PD, but I don't remember the name.
It's Pavel Durov.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
Yeah, this guy, he's got like hundreds of kids, and he's like, he's a multi-billionaire.
He's like, I will leave my wealth.
And I guess he pays the women or something.
He's donating his simon.
You can go and get his simmen and just get be pregnant.
And he'll like pay money or something.
Elon Musk is doing something.
Is that like Elon Musk is doing something else?
And I think also Andrew Tate said something.
Or he's going to populate the world.
Well, it's great, I think.
I think white men should spread their simen and have as much kiss as they can.
There you go.
Why?
Robert.
What do you mean, why?
What kind of question is that?
White man, you said?
White man, yes.
Why specifically white man?
Because we're a minority.
Because I'm white.
I'm white, and I want more white people.
Oh.
What?
I think children should be in marriage.
But my husband made $13 an hour when I was your age, and we got together.
And now he's a business owner, and I'm going to be a stay-at-home mom.
So that's true.
Exactly.
Well, her claim's a bit different.
Do you think it's wrong for a white person?
Like, for example, me, for example.
If I wanted to date a white woman, and one of the reasons I want to date her, aside from her other positive characteristics, is I want to have white kids.
Do you think that that's like wrong?
No.
She said that she wants what he's doing, that there's more kids around the world, nothing to do with her, that are white.
That means like more white people because there's a bunch of other races.
And we are minority.
Why is wrong with white men?
No, white minority.
Yeah, whites are going extinct.
I want my kids to look like me.
And I'm not ashamed to say that.
We need to normalize that shit, honestly.
Yeah, I'm sick and tired of listening to how Jews say this.
We're going to have, like, Jews say, like, they married inside their own religion, right?
And it's fine for them.
Yeah, it's fine.
They could say this is public Jew people.
Oh, even real.
Yeah, you.
Yeah.
Or, for example, Muslims, they're saying we're going to have a marriage inside our culture.
Same as Asians.
Even as white people.
They make fun of black men for dating a white girl.
So why is it only not okay for white people to want white kids?
There's so much cultural programming around this.
It's bullshit.
A lot of white people that are against having black kids because of racial, like, it's not because, oh, they just want them to have white kids.
It's because they don't want them to have specifically black kids.
What?
No.
Isn't that sort of implied, though, in wanting to have white kids, sort of?
I don't know if it's baked into that, but you could want to have white kids.
That's just one thing.
But if you're going against one specific, like black kids, that's raising that.
Who against black kids?
Nobody.
You said.
I never said I'm afraid white kids.
And maybe a general thing, but you said that you want all kids to be white.
Yeah.
I never say kids.
When did I say that?
When did I say that?
I want white kids, and because I'm white, I want to have white kids around you.
You didn't say no, your kids, you said in the world.
Like, you want more white people.
We need more white people.
Honestly, we do.
White people are going extinct.
If you look at the graph for all of the races, the way that they're going up.
Yeah, I know, but this is also a very white state.
Santa Barbara is a very white county, right?
But if you look at the statistics, like the bell curve is going up for all of the races, and it's going down for white people.
We're literally going functionally extinct if we keep going at this rate.
So, yeah, white people shouldn't.
Do you consider yourself white?
A lot of Israel Israelis don't consider themselves to be white, though.
They don't?
No.
Yeah, we do.
No, actually, I mean, is it Ben Shapiro?
Some like really well-known Israeli commentator.
They were saying that it's kind of like dicey whether Israelis actually consider themselves to be white.
They are from the Middle East, so it is not 100% white.
I am also American and actually also Spanish, but it.
Do you consider yourself to be white?
I am white, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I want white babies.
I want my babies to look like me.
Nothing's wrong with it.
Of course.
Serenity to sort of answer your question here.
So white people are an increasing minority in the world.
They already are a minority, globally speaking.
Less than 16%, I believe.
Globally speaking, white people are not.
Less than 16%?
16.
Oh, what?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Do you disagree?
Is that true?
16% of people know that.
That's not true.
Less than 16% of the people.
Google that.
16.
Can you explain that?
How is that?
I'm curious on what the overall stat is.
If you could Google it, Brian.
I'm very interested.
On the percentage of the racial breakdown.
Are you talking about pure white?
No, Caucasian, like white, blue-eyed.
Not mixed with other races.
Like, not mixed with Asian, not mixed with African-American, not mixed with Haitian, not mixed with Spanish.
Correct.
Yes.
Okay, well, everyone, like, because the whole world is mixing.
Yeah, but there's predominantly white cultures.
Like, all of my genetics are white, except for a very, very tiny minor.
I'm 50% Hungarian, so 50% Slavic, and I'm Australian.
And my Australian side is predominantly French, English, and then a tiny little bit of Spanish.
Okay, so here are the details on this.
Okay, so South Asian.
So that's India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka.
That's 23 to 24% of the global world population.
East and Southeast Asian, 21 to 27%.
So these are estimates that are being provided.
That's why there's the range.
Black African descent, 15 to 19%.
White Caucasian, 10 to 12%.
Even less.
Latin American, 8%.
Middle Eastern, North African, 5% to 6%.
Indigenous, another, 3-5%.
We're a minority now.
So white people are definitely a minority.
That's a huge problem.
Exactly.
Whites built the world.
People say white culture doesn't exist.
It absolutely does.
Literally.
Strip.
Our Bolshevikiatra, our theater.
I think just like.
All right.
Going around the.
I need to kind of wait until everybody's back at the table.
I think we got one person.
To be clear, I don't have a problem with other races.
I mean, I actually think that like half Asian women are the most beautiful women in the world, like half Filipino women, so stunning.
I have plenty of friends who are other races, but it is a concern that, you know, the white race is going down in numbers, and I definitely want kids that look like me.
Exactly.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Damn, y'all guys, y'all don't know how to follow the instructions.
It says circle the number.
I even said it.
And y'all writing yes, yes, no, making my job all fucking complicated.
Women's Suffering During Famine 00:12:46
I circled.
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
Not everybody.
But two people are fucking writing yes or no next to the okay, whatever.
I think I literally only switched to the bottom.
Reading comprehension difficulties.
So, all right, anyways.
Okay, really quick summer from the questionnaire.
Women are the primary victims of war, not men.
Why is that?
Well, especially in my country and Ireland and stuff, it was the women that struggled the most from the famine and from the wars.
Women struggled the most?
They did.
So whilst the men were out fighting, the women were actually starving at home.
Like the Irish potato famine is absolutely crazy.
It was the women and the children that struggled the most.
Okay.
Obviously, I don't know what you guys like here, but that's just the only war that I know about.
Well, it is a bit of a general question.
Obviously, Ireland's been involved in more wars.
So just to be clear, look, I'm not an expert on the Irish potato famine.
Was that categorized as a war?
So basically, the English came over and like murdered a bunch of Irish people, called it a potato famine when it wasn't a potato famine.
They took all of the crops and everything away for the English people.
It's very.
When that happened?
Not that long ago.
It was 1845 to 1852.
And it still went on until there was still quite a lot of war until probably about 20 years ago.
Like there was stuff like Bloody Sundays where the English would come on Sundays and they would massacre a bunch of Irish people.
Like this was when my parents were younger as well.
So like this is still a current thing.
And then there would be the men who would go off and they would fight in the IRA or they would fight in like the British Army, either one.
And it would be the women.
Yes, a lot of them died.
And so the women would be at home and often, especially in Ireland, the women would have to carry the guns.
The women would have to be part of the IRA.
The women would have to transport all of the guns.
It was always the woman because the British soldiers wouldn't look at the women for it.
So it was majority the women who had to do all that.
I mean, I looked this up.
I'm obviously just offhand.
I'm not familiar with the Irish potato fan.
I've heard of it.
I'm not familiar with the details.
What I'm seeing here is that they're more likely to die than women during the Irish potato famine, the male mortality.
How would you rather die?
Would you rather die by getting shot at gunpoint or would you rather die by starvation?
Well, hold on.
According to this, it seems like even related to the starvation, there were more men who even died from starvation.
It seems like, according to this, women have higher biological resilience to starvation and even infectious disease, partly due to body fat distribution and metabolic differences.
Well, it actually is the case that, for example, in order for a man to survive, his calorie intake is like way higher than women.
So women can survive off of a lower calorie intake.
And they're just more, so they're more resilient to starvation, I guess.
Yeah, but you're talking about surviving, not struggling.
The men were off.
They were all.
Yeah, I think I'd rather struggle than die.
I think I'd much rather die than fully be starving.
My kids starving, my family starving.
And also the stats that you have on your computer, they were made by the British, the British government.
Literally from historical accuracy, from family tales.
It's been very important.
No, I know, but it's the potato famine happened.
But even like you guys learn here that it's called the potato famine and like it was because they couldn't grow crops, but that wasn't true.
It was because the British soldiers were taking the crops and giving it to Britain.
So there's a lot of inaccuracies in the history that you guys don't get taught about that only we learn about.
Even you guys, I asked you about it, you know nothing.
You were saying earlier when I was giving you statistics, you were saying that you don't believe in the manipulation of statistics when it comes to like the criming gangs and all of these things.
I don't believe in statistics.
So you don't think that in time that maybe what I was saying will be vindicated, much like at the time when the stats were being manipulated for what you're talking about?
I said at the start I don't believe in stats.
Huh?
You don't believe in statistics overall?
What do you mean?
No, I think that statistics, like you can't, what happened in Ireland quantify things?
No, but you, it's the inaccuracies in the history.
You're not going to learn, like, the, I can't remember her name.
Israel.
Okay, the Israeli girl.
Like, her opinion on it is going to be different from like our opinion on it because that's where she's from.
Sorry.
Yeah, I mean, look, I'm looking at it.
I'm not diminishing the fact that women obviously suffered severely during this time period of Ireland.
However, men were more likely to die.
Women had higher survival rates during the Irish potato famine.
So even in this one particular example that you're pulling up, all other military conflicts.
I also think men are clearly the primary victims.
I also think in war, even in Scotland or even Syria or anything, it's the soldiers that are coming, then they're coming and they're raping the women.
Yeah, I think that's a big, huge problem.
So I think maybe not, maybe they don't struggle more, but I think women still struggle when the war is in conflict.
But the claim here is not that during wartime, women face zero suffering.
There's no doubt that all civilians, even during wartime, whether it's due to economic reasons or even if the country is invading you, then there's actual civilian casualties.
The argument here is who suffers more or who's the primary sufferer?
Would you agree that in certain gendered instances that men or women in certain, well, you probably would say that in plenty of ways women suffer more?
I would say that, yeah, there's different types of suffering.
Obviously, if it's like who dies more.
Yes, for sure, men definitely die more.
So who's suffering the effects of the war?
Yeah, so I mean, this seems a little incoherent to me.
It's almost like if I were to say that when women are pregnant, men are the primary sufferers because they have to deal with the stressed out pregnant women.
I don't think that's even close to being similar.
That was like starving to death the same as being with a pregnant woman.
That's not the same thing.
But you would agree with me that, like, oh, how about this?
When the woman is actually giving birth, she's going through a lot of physical pain.
I think the man also goes through pain during that situation.
Right, we can acknowledge, yeah, like, okay, she's squeezing his hand super tight and it hurts.
Oh, my God, I'm pushing out a fucking baby out of my vagina.
Oh, my God.
And she squeezes the shit out of his hand and that shit hurts, right?
But I would never say, well, even though men do have some degree of pain during the pregnancy process, it completely pales in comparison to the pain that women feel during pregnancy.
Women would be, although men are suffering or in pain, women are the primary sufferers or people experiencing pain during pregnancy.
I would maybe retract and say that I don't think women suffer more, but I do think they suffer in equal men.
Absolutely incoherent.
That's okay, that's your war?
I think so.
So what about, can I, even if we were, let's do this.
Even if we were to grant that in the specific example you gave, that during the Irish potato famine, women had it worse.
I don't think that's the case at all.
What I've found seems to be completely contradictory to that.
But even if we grant it, are you saying in the middle of the even I'd like to point out in Ireland the women were fighting the war as well.
It wasn't just the men.
The women were part of the IRA, the biggest part.
Were they So the IRA, were there more female belligerents?
There was a lot of female answer the question.
I obviously don't know the stats, but there was genuinely answer the question.
I know people that are from Ireland that their grands were transporting guns for the IRA.
There's no dispute that women have been.
Like women were a big, huge part of the IRA.
Okay, but in terms of the combatants, the soldiers, pretty sure it's fair to say.
There was still a lot of women.
I don't care about a lot.
You want to do this thing where you're conveniently ignoring the question at hand, which is more.
So are there, were there more men in the IRA than women?
Were there more men?
There was probably more male soldiers, yeah.
Of course there were more male soldiers.
But it doesn't matter.
Of course it does matter.
And no, because the women were still very much a part of it.
It doesn't.
Wait, this is so incoherent.
It doesn't at all.
The women were the ones transporting the guns.
Oh my God, transporting the guns.
Are you joking?
Do you know how many?
Do you know how harmful Ireland was back in that time to even be caught with a gun?
You're getting raped.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
The men were the primary victims of war.
There's so many wars in the world.
No, there's struggle everywhere.
Of course.
The Ukraine war, the recent Ukraine conflict, which is still ongoing.
Of the Ukrainian population, I guess you could ask it even for the Russian, who's the primary victims of the Ukraine conflict?
Men or women?
I don't know anything.
You don't fucking know, even though before.
No, I was thinking I don't know anything about the Ukraine war.
You don't even need to know anything about it.
Probably men, yes.
Probably men.
But women still suffer in war.
Yes, women do suffer.
Ukrainian women have suffered, not to the scale that men have suffered.
But what about the war in the Middle East?
What about Syria?
What about all these other places where the women are the ones that are getting objectified and raped and murdered?
Like the men are actually fighting with guns and then the women in the Middle East are getting fully murdered and slaughtered.
They're the majority.
So let's do a comparison then.
So look, of course we acknowledge that terrible things happen to civilians, maybe even specific gendered things like rape happened to women during wartime.
There's no dispute there.
However, can I ask you a question?
How many men are you willing to die or let die?
I wouldn't want any man to not die.
Wait for the question.
How many men would you be willing to let die to prevent one rape?
I wouldn't want any of them to die.
Answer the question.
I just fucking died.
I wouldn't like one of them to die.
Not one, no.
So zero, okay.
And that's also such a ridiculous question to ask.
It's ridiculous.
You're like, oh, would you like to get raped or do you want 10 men to die?
That's such a ridiculous question.
The question was, how many men would you allow to die to prevent one rape?
Now we've created a value judgment in terms of harm or suffering.
So the reality is, and also, by the way, in wartime, even if we can acknowledge that thousands, tens of thousands, even maybe you might even say sometimes in some of these conflicts, hundreds of thousands of women are raped.
If I can present to you a war where, yes, hundreds of thousands of women were raped, but tens of millions of men.
Was it World War I, World War II, the casualties were in the tens of millions, right?
These are almost predominantly men.
At least the military casualties are like 99% men, right?
So way more men died during World War II than women were raped.
Who's the primary sufferer from your perspective now?
Probably men.
I'm telling you this conversation.
Well, it's just, I think it's interesting.
You can't even, like, in the one.
No, because I've told you, I've told you all of what I'm thinking.
Like, the women definitely struggle within war.
I don't know why.
Maybe not more.
Maybe not more than men, because you guys like die.
Why is it a competition?
I never made that a competition.
Feminism is the competition.
No, I never made that competition.
I was answering a question.
No, no, no, but look, the question in dispute is not during wartime, do women have a jolly old time?
That's not what we're talking about.
Of course, both men, women, children, everybody is going to have typically a bad time during war.
It's not a good thing.
People are going to suffer, both men, women, children.
However, when it comes to military conflicts, you can't ignore the fact that the vast majority of soldiers are men.
Even if you look at certain countries where there's women soldiers, they're far less likely to be placed in harm's way.
They're much more likely to be kept back, to be support roles.
Men are typically frontline soldiers way disproportionately.
Men are the primary victims of war.
There's no arguing against it.
Women Also Annoy 00:11:25
Okay, cool.
Okay.
Okay, cool.
It's just definitely subjective.
Different areas are different.
What was the thing we were going to do, Mary?
There was something we were going to...
Order pizza?
I already did.
Oh, thank you.
Thanks for letting it tie that.
What do you mean that's on?
Like, how much longer?
I mean, bro, if you guys want to fucking leave, you guys can just fucking leave.
I'm tired of the fucking attitude from you guys.
If you guys just want to fucking go, then fucking go.
Oh, I didn't say that.
The show will end when it ends, but you guys have been so disruptive this entire time.
I'm trying to move through this.
If you have an issue, you ask me fucking 20 times about pizza.
I'm doing it.
But if you want to fucking leave, then just leave if you're not enjoying it.
And yet again, earlier he said how older women get more like toxic, you said?
But that has to do with the situation.
What do you mean?
No, you've been saying how older women are being toxic or more dramatic.
I didn't say all older women are that.
You didn't say all very different things.
You had to excuse me.
It doesn't matter.
He said about when he breaks up with a woman.
How is that the same when they're not saying they're hungry?
He didn't say only about breaks up in general just to deal with them.
Wait, so I don't understand what's your point.
Because they're younger.
You're trying to be like, well, look at these younger women.
Don't interrupt me.
Let me finish.
You accused me.
This is the show.
I'll interrupt you as much as I want.
Then I'm not going to talk.
What's the point?
You're asking me and you're not allowing me to answer.
To provide clarification, go ahead, finish your point.
My point is you're accusing the girls how they're being disruptive or being annoying, asking for pizza.
Nah, nah, nah.
You keep saying that.
What does that have to do with the thing that you just brought up about the older women?
Because there's two young girls.
Can you speak into the mic?
Yeah, what does that have to do with anything?
Nothing.
You took offensive that he said the older women are more.
Are you saying we're being toxic, like the older women?
No, he said how you annoying and you keep asking for pizza.
And he was like, fuck off, just leave the show if you don't like it.
I think it's just somebody officially got rage-baited.
I don't think what is going on.
Okay, maybe everyone's okay.
I cannot express and my English is not good.
No, no, I get where you're coming from, but it's totally like a different topic.
I get everyone.
I get everyone.
Maybe it's just a little cranky.
Yeah.
New topic.
Let's go.
Happy Burns Night, guys.
It's Burns Night.
Happy Burns Night.
Brian, you want to read the next question?
Yeah, but it's like, I'm a bit confused because you brought up, oh, earlier in the show, you said that you had some bad experiences with older women.
And you're pointing out that they're younger.
So, like, my position is, of course, young women can also be annoying.
Old women can also be annoying.
Old women can, older women can also not be annoying.
And younger women can also be not annoying.
Right, it also could be nothing to do with age.
Yeah, okay.
Even if there are younger women at the panel who are being annoying, that wouldn't be contradictory to my point.
Yeah.
It's fucking crazy, dude.
We're all friends here.
Yeah, just saying I want to leave.
I'm just hungry.
That's it.
Sorry.
Yeah, I'm here for a show.
Just, all right.
Please said to eat before we start.
I did.
I'm just hungry.
I'm just a hungry girl.
Fast metabolism.
It goes straight through.
All right.
Okay.
Tell me you're not hungry, Brian.
Lisa?
Who's Lisa?
That's me.
Okay.
You said you've known your husband since you were 13.
You didn't get together until you were 19.
You think promiscuity is a sign of mental illness and depression, regardless of what feminism says about it.
Do you have anything to add to that?
pretty much that.
I think that any sort of addiction that you have, whether it's...
Can you speak into the mic, please?
I think any sort of addiction that you have, whether it's sexual promiscuity or drug addiction or eating addictions or anything like that, is a sign of depression.
I think that it's a coping mechanism to deal with other things that are going on.
Okay.
You also say you have a disagreement.
You don't think the host is very chivalrous, which I think is a quality all real men should have.
Do you want to expand?
I will preface this with I haven't watched like a lot of your show.
I've just watched the clips, especially just like more recently coming in.
But some of the questions that I've heard you ask, such as, if a man pays for the first date, would you be willing to go home and do the laundry?
I don't think that that.
Sorry, go ahead.
I'll correct it, but go ahead.
Well, you can correct it.
Oh, I have never framed it like that.
But it's not like a tit for Tad.
If you pay for the first date, she should go home and do your laundry.
I think the first time a girl's over at your place, she should do the laundry.
That's something different, though.
Wait, the first time a girl's over at like first date.
At my place, yeah, she should cook, she should clean, she should do what she was doing.
She should do your laundry.
The first house that she doesn't live in.
Correct.
Why?
Can you explain that?
Yeah, go further.
But why don't you finish your point?
Okay.
Sorry, I'm like kind of scared now.
But anyways, I just, I feel like you have a very high expectation of femininity, which is fine.
I don't think that you quite meet the standards of masculinity that I would see.
And so I think that it's unfair if you're not going to meet standards of masculinity to have certain standards of femininity.
What are the standards of masculinity?
I'm so nervous now.
It's okay.
I would say that I have a lot of men in my life that have created the standard, but I do think that it goes far beyond like your financial income.
I think that men should be fit.
I think they should be strong, able to protect.
I think that they should be mentally and emotionally able to provide.
I know that I could see your face right now, but not short-tempered.
Not short-tempered would be.
I think that from a biblical...
I've been super patient this entire show.
Not regarding you.
I've been talking about that.
I've been super patient this entire show.
You guys have been a little feral tonight, not going to lie.
My patience was exhausted.
Before the show, we give you guys instructions on our expectations of you.
We say don't do sidebar conversations.
We say, you know, speak into the mic.
We say all these things.
And you guys have been just completely feral.
Completely.
Not everybody at the panel, but a lot of, you know, breaking our rules.
I think you do that to anybody.
Like, if you poke even a really patient person far enough, yeah, they're going to get frustrated.
Go ahead, continue with your point.
I just, that's basically it.
Like, I think that's.
Okay, so how would you apply these to me?
You have been a little bit short-tempered.
And I understand what you're saying, but I just, like, from the standpoint of the men that are in my life, specifically my husband, obviously, is going to be my main pull from here.
Like, he has a tremendous, my husband in 15 years has never even raised his voice at me, even one time.
And I will say I'm kind of difficult.
I will give him that.
Oh.
Well, now we're talking about something different.
I would actually make the argument, and I don't know your husband.
I don't mean to throw him under the bus.
Your admission that, well, actually, let's explore this.
You're difficult out.
I can be, I can have a bit of a temper sometimes.
Interesting.
You have the temper.
I actually think, and your husband does what when you have a temper?
He tells me to take a breath and calm down a little bit.
But it's a behavior that you, you've been with him for 15 years that you still haven't corrected?
It's something that I have definitely worked on.
But I think that we all have stuff that we're working on.
Ah, well, it seems like your husband has not laid a strong enough boundary in your relationship, which I think would actually indicate a lack of masculinity on your husband's part.
I strongly disagree.
Hold on.
Your husband tolerating 15 years of, I have an attitude problem.
I'm sorry.
That's not masculinity.
Sometimes as a man, if your woman is acting the fool, you got to tell her to shut the fuck up.
It's not okay to act like that.
Oh, absolutely.
But it's okay for you to be nagging and quirking.
I don't nag my husband.
You literally said that you, what did you say?
What was the words?
I do have a bit of a temper a little bit.
Like, I will say that I have a little bit of a temper, but I don't nag my husband.
You said you're, what was the word?
Problematic?
What was the word you used?
I'm short-tempered now.
Short-tempered.
No, she said something else.
Difficult.
I can be difficult sometimes.
Right.
Husbands love that.
My husband does.
Yeah, I mean, I think that tolerating difficulty in a relationship.
I mean, you say your husband is emblematic of masculinity.
I think a component of masculinity is having the capacity to tell a woman no.
That's not okay.
Well, you haven't corrected your behavior, so it seems like his guiding hand hasn't been exactly effective, I guess we could say.
I would say that it has been effective in the sense that I'm definitely have corrected it over time and I'm not to the point where I was.
But he has, especially in the beginning, which I was much more so.
He definitely tells me.
It's not like he just takes it and then sits down.
Like he definitely discusses it with me, but he discusses and communicates with me.
He does not raise his voice, belittle, berate me, or tell me to shut the fuck up.
I don't think that's an appropriate way to talk to your wife.
I think that's a good question.
I don't think it's appropriate to treat your husband in a, what was the term difficult?
Is that what she used?
What did you say?
You can be difficult sometimes.
You sure can.
Yeah, I don't think it's fair in a marriage or a relationship to be difficult to your partner.
No one's perfect.
Everyone has pros and cons.
Is he ever difficult to you?
Slightest ways.
Nah, it sounds like he's the perfect person at all.
Yeah, so okay.
My husband is definitely not a slight husband.
I can tell you that he is very protective and he is not, he does have a shorter temper outside of me.
He protects me.
But he has never raised his voice at me.
And the Bible calls for men to treat their women with understanding.
Proverbs 21, 19, better to live in a desert than with a quarreling and nagging wife.
You just admitted that you've been for vast amounts of your marriage were difficult.
You want to bring up the Christianity and the Bible.
You're clearly failing, or at least we're failing as it relates to Proverbs.
Oh, 100%.
I think that I was not a great wife in the beginning of our marriage, and I am very thankful that my husband stuck with me.
But I do think that as of right now, I am an amazing wife.
We have a very good marriage, and we have a great family.
Men's Roles Questioned 00:13:42
Yeah, I mean, again, though, so I think it's interesting, though.
You say that your husband, outside of your relationship, has a short temper.
This is an adversarial discussion podcast where I'm basically like carrying the entire conversation on my back and having adversarial conversations.
So oftentimes in debates, you're going to face instances of frustration.
People are going to be debating against you, oftentimes in bad faith, or they're going to be so logically incoherent that it's completely frustrating to even attempt to have a debate or conversation because their logic is so flawed that it can get frustrating at times.
I can understand that.
Right.
So the demeanor also, it's, you know, to some degree, this is a show we're putting on a show here.
So there's a degree of showmanship, I guess, that goes with that.
I don't think you can really draw the nature of the conversations I'm having on the show and make any sort of determination, really, as how an interaction in my private life or with a girlfriend or whatever.
I don't think you can really make that draw there.
I will contend to that, and that's why I preface this with: I actually don't know as much about you.
I haven't watched your podcast.
My husband has several friends that watch your podcast, warned me about this.
I figured I would come on anyways because I do think that I have value to add to people.
Okay.
So, okay, can you just re, I guess, restate the lacking of traits or whatever?
Well, not just you, but I do think this is not general.
This is not at you.
This is just a generalized.
I have noticed outside of kind of my husband and his friend group, men that don't know, like they'll bring in a lot of money, but they don't know how to work on a car because they can pay someone to do that, right?
They don't know how to hunt because they can go buy out, go out and buy food.
They don't know how to build a house or work on a house because they can pay somebody to come and do this.
Like, I do think that those are traits, masculine traits in men, which you clearly disagree with, but those are traits that my husband holds.
And in a hypothetical situation of a complete economic collapse where your money now means nothing, my husband can still provide and protect for our family.
Yeah, so I mean, some of these things you listed, obviously, they are associated with a traditional masculinity.
However, I think if you look at the so humans have become very, very specialized.
So humans had to be a bit more well-rounded.
But because of industry and because of mass civilization that we have, people can be very, very specialized in terms of their understandings.
And then they can third-party some of these other things.
You know, in terms of your, you brought up like being able to do mechanic work.
You know, I think there's some basic levels of, you know, understanding cars and mechanics that, you know, you might be able to say, well, you know, this is a component of masculinity, maybe.
But I think in today's world, like, what do you think is more masculine?
A man who's a mechanic who makes $40,000 a year and he knows all about cars, or a man who's making $10 million a year and he doesn't know anything about cars, but he can hire, like, he can essentially hire a professional mechanic.
So I just think that that's like a problematic question, which I understand a lot of men will disagree with, especially in the world now.
But like, in my mind, you're not just masculine because you make enough money to pay everybody else to do things for you, is what I'm saying.
Okay.
It's like a blue collar man is the most masculine.
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I think there's some.
Okay, and what was the other criticisms?
I mean, that's not a criticism of you.
That's just criticism and men in general in the world.
I just haven't, I saw several clips where you made this, where you did make that.
And I'm pretty sure that it was like, if I pay for the first date, will you come home with me?
Then come home with me and do my laundry.
And I don't know if you can do that.
That's never the framing.
So that's never the framing.
I'm saying the first time a girl does come over to my house, yeah, she should do the laundry.
Why?
The first time she's ever at your house.
How long have you been dating?
Like two weeks?
Sure.
And she should just do your laundry for you?
Absolutely.
Why?
She should.
Do you find dating as a transactional relationship?
Do you find marriage as a transactional relationship?
What do you mean by transactional?
So like if I'm trying to think of how to word this right now.
Like in our marriage, I do the cooking, I do the cleaning, I take care of the kids, I do all of those things because I want to, out of appreciation for my husband, provide him a peaceful home to come into.
If I want him to protect my peace, I need to be providing peace for him to protect.
However, I don't do it out of some like perceived obligation of he does these things, so now I have to.
And just like he doesn't go to work and provide for me because I do those things at home out of an obligation.
He does it out of a loving and caring for his family.
Okay.
I guess it'd be the best wording I could figure out.
Well, I think in order to inspire masculinity in men, women need to hold up their end of the deal, which they're clearly failing.
If you want to categorize that as transactional, I guess you can.
But the reality is you have even liberal progressive women who expect chivalry, men to provide, men to protect.
You got these progressive Kamala voters who want men to pay for dates, who want men to be trad, who want to be these masculine guys.
And look, I think you should be masculine independent of however fucked up society is and how women are just the most modern they've ever been in all of human history.
However, I think it's a really raw deal for men that we are going to hold men to this masculine standard while we hold women to absolutely no standard whatsoever.
It's 100% okay for even feminist or 50-50 quality women to say men should.
But it's clearly, whoa, the moment you say women should, now we're getting into sexism.
Now we're getting into misogyny.
But women, even equality feminist women, men should pay for dates.
Men should be chivalrous.
Men should protect me.
Men should open the car door.
Men should do all these things.
It's not sexism.
It's not misandry for women to say that shit.
But when men say women should, y'all have problems with it.
Women should cook.
Women should clean.
Women should be submissive.
No, I think that we think women, a lot of the people here think women should be clean, but maybe not on the first date when you first start.
Ask an 18-year-old college chick.
Well, she's not going to come to your house and do your laundry the first time she meets you.
I don't know if I'm married to someone.
Yeah, if you're married engaged to somebody.
Yes.
I love this.
Okay, so men's roles are static.
Men have to up front be trad.
So on the first date, I got to pay for the date.
I wouldn't say women get to reserve that shit until marriage.
And even then, a lot of these married chicks, the married liberal chicks, they ain't doing that shit.
They ain't, oh, that's sexist.
That's misogyny.
Oh, make me a sale.
They're not doing that shit.
And I think it's fucking, imagine if a guy, these women who say, oh, you just want a mom.
You want me to cook?
You want me to clean?
You want me.
You're just looking for a mom.
Is that true?
I have something to say because you're looking at so you're saying women should be traditional with like how like they do things for the man.
So why shouldn't the man be traditional?
Why shouldn't the man pay for the first date?
Why should the man open the door?
The man should.
Exactly.
What I'm trying to get at is you're saying, I'll wait till marriage.
I don't think it's going to go over very well, especially with more traditional leaning women.
If men started to say, I'm not going to protect you, I'm not going to provide.
I'm not going to pay for dates.
I'm not going to do any of these.
I'm not going to even be masculine until we're married.
That's not going to fly with women.
But women can say, I'm not going to be submissive.
We're going to be 50-50.
I'm not going to cook.
I'm not going to clean.
You just want a mom.
Maybe in marriage, maybe in marriage, you'll get that.
And it's still negotiable.
Can I say why?
Just like what we said before that for guys, it's harder to get girls, right?
So they have to kind of earn it or prove themselves.
And then the woman should act as the role as well, but they shouldn't do it to every man that goes out with them.
Like dating for two weeks, I'm also incredibly submissive.
I also think they should be submissive, but not after two weeks.
Not the first time you're going to his house.
Yeah, I agree.
Let me look.
One sec, guys.
I'm checking the pizza fucking situation.
Yeah, like you cannot be submissive with everything.
And also male.
My point was not that, like, if they make enough money, that doesn't make sense.
Marriage, just go down and take your phone, and if you need it, you need to do it.
The point.
Why?
Sorry, go ahead.
Continue.
Sorry, I was just replying to a comment.
I'm saying that a man saying that he is masculine because he makes enough money that he can pay everybody to do something, but he himself does not know how to do any of those things, I think is problematic.
I also think it's problematic for women who do not want to be submissive to their husbands and don't want to do those things to expect that stuff from men.
I also agree that that is problematic.
I think that the world we live in right now has a lot of issues as far as relationships, and it is also coming through in families.
That's terrible.
How do you expect the man to get to the point of wanting to propose and be the protector provider unless you provided enough evidence that you can do that within the marriage?
Which, I mean, no one's proposing after two weeks, right?
So I'm sure if they're getting closer to that stage, he will see that, but not after two weeks.
I'm okay with being submissive if you are in a like.
Relationship.
A relationship where it's like you're exclusive.
Is that the word that I'm trying to think of?
Like if you're exclusive with someone, I think that you should be submissive with that one.
If he's out dating and you're out dating.
There's just so many whores in this world, honestly.
And like so many, like, like women have depreciated their value.
And men's reaction is a response to that.
I agree.
So they don't want to go and open their wallet for every girl because honestly, it's the women who are more transactional.
It's women who are trying to date a cross or offer.
It's women who are naturally hypergamous.
Like this is being true.
Can I say something from actually being a whore?
I pay for everything.
Always paid for everything.
I would never expect, because I have money.
It's not about the money.
I'm not afraid of a man to pay for something.
I would never go on a date and expect a man to pay for something.
Well, God, you have realistic expectations then for what you're providing.
For me, the opposite.
It's not about the money.
Like, if a guy doesn't have the money, but he wants to pay, like, I don't mind paying.
It's like he should want to pay.
It is his role.
Yes.
I mean, if he, okay, so say he's the one that asks you on the date.
He should pay.
If the girl's asking the guy.
It's not about that.
I feel like if you were asking this person to come on a date with you, why would you make them?
First of all, I would never ask if.
Well, no, I'm just saying hypothetically.
Right.
Like, if you're asking a man to come on this date with you, and he's like, yes.
You asked him to come there and then so they're switching the roles.
So should he go after and do her laundry?
No.
So why are they switching roles?
But she doesn't agree with that.
I don't want to get at all.
You should be married to be doing that.
I think that there should.
Yeah, it's true that there's roles.
But if I'm Erin and 400K more than the man that I'm dating, I'm going to pay for dinner, bro.
But it's not about the money.
It's about the action.
It's about the money.
No, I completely get that.
But see, if he's broke, I don't care and they're broke and they can't afford to take me out for dinner.
And I really want to try the new sushi place.
I'm going to pay for it.
I don't care if I'm a woman.
I'm going to pay a dollar taco.
But does he want to pay for it?
If he wants to pay for it, he can pay for it.
So that's different.
I'm saying it's about the role.
Is he interested in paying?
Does he think he's supposed to pay?
Or it's not actually about who's paying with the actual money.
I'm like, it's all about what that one person wants.
So if a man wants to take me out and he wants to pay for the meal, great.
But if a man wants to take me out and he can't pay for a meal, I'll pay for it.
I don't care.
Okay, good.
but it's because it's not about the money it's about the role but to answer your question i think that the warmest of our heart Yeah, I don't think that's a good idea.
I understand the climate and I understand that I don't know it super well, obviously, because I've been married for all my dating years or whatever.
He was your first everything?
He did not take my virginity, if that's what you're asking.
Oh, really?
But I also don't have like a high body count.
We got together pretty young, but I was in a three-year relationship through high school.
Anyways, I do think that if you're taking a woman on a first date, you're paying because that's an investment into a potential relationship.
I understand that men and women are now with hookup culture, whatever it's called.
Men and women are just dating to date or just to have fun.
But in my mind, in my opinion, you should be taking someone on a first date to vet a relationship, and that's an investment.
Do all investments work out?
No, and that's terrible.
And men do take the brunt of that.
I'm not going to say that they don't, but I do think that it's not.
Bravery and Truth-Telling 00:08:43
If that burden of performance is put on the man, then shouldn't it also equally apply to women?
I feel like in the current dating marketplace, the burden of performance is more so on the woman.
I feel like there's more of a lack of good women than there is a lack of good men.
I think that, sorry to all the feminists, I am very anti-feminist.
Me too.
So I would agree with you.
I do think that women have more commodified themselves and made them desirable.
Like women are all desirable, right?
It's very easy to be desired by a man because you don't have to give very much.
I don't think that a lot of women put themselves in a position to be cherished in a long-term lifetime relationship with a man.
Absolutely.
I agree with that.
Our only fans has only made it worse.
We have a quick super chat here that I will read.
Mr. Northumberland, good to see you in the chat, man.
You've literally just made the argument for only wanting equality when it benefits women.
Even on a first date, men must demonstrate they can provide, but women don't have to demonstrate they can take care of home.
Look, men ought to be.
Thank you for your super chat, man.
I think men ought to be masculine, absent women.
Women's lack of femininity, I guess you could say.
But I do think women are kind of failing.
And men are failing too in some ways.
Men are definitely not living up to certain standards.
Men, I am critical of men in a lot of ways.
They're fucking gooners.
They're degenerate.
Well, women are too.
You know, they're watching porn.
They're porn.
A lot of them are porn addicts.
They're following like a hundred Instagram thoughts.
You shouldn't be following any chicks on Instagram, honestly.
You follow me on Instagram.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You don't follow me on Instagram.
I'm sure you follow me on Instagram.
I don't follow anybody on my Instagram.
You can follow my Instagram right now.
I follow my own page.
That's it.
I got one follower.
That's it.
Okay.
All right.
What is a guner?
All right, this is a false accusation.
That's false.
I'm not false accusation.
I just thought you messaged me, so I thought that you followed me.
A guner means someone that was porn.
Okay.
You messaged me saying you should come back on the show.
You reached out to us.
This is your second time on the show.
Or third?
You reached out to us to be on the show.
Yeah, the first time.
No, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
After the shows, we're like, hey, we'd love to have you back, blah, blah, blah.
But you just back out.
Like, hey, by the way, I'm going to be in California.
Like, that wasn't whatever.
This is super meta.
Well, let me ask this on the on the issue of masculinity.
I hate the term manifested.
Well, no, I think it can...
I'll just use the term.
Masculinity can manifest itself in different ways.
Like in the same way, would you agree that intelligence can, there's different types of intelligence?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
And so I think that there's an intellectual level of masculinity.
So I would argue that I'm not a mechanic.
You're right.
I speak on the podcast.
I do a lot of work at the computer.
It's not the most rough and tough job.
However, there's a component of masculinity that relates to speaking the truth.
And I even think that this supersedes the masculinity that might be witnessed in a man who works with his hands or who's a mechanic.
Because I think at no other point in human history has physical ability been less needed and mental ability been more needed.
As men, we have allowed our countries to be completely fucked.
Our Western countries are fucked.
The only way we're going to combat this is through truthful discourse and being convincing and being persuasive.
And we're going to do this through rhetoric.
And I would argue that while I'm not a mechanic and I don't know how to, I don't know, I don't know how to take a pardon engine and put it back together.
I think I'm doing something that in some ways might be argued as even more masculine.
And that's speaking the truth when the truth is things are changing, but it's been perhaps a bit untenable the past few years.
Charlie Kirk, for example, was murdered for speaking the truth.
There's not a lot of mechanics who are exceptional at putting together an engine or taking one apart who are getting murdered for their masculinity.
But I guess I would point out that I don't know.
Like, for example, I'm not employable after I do this podcast.
So I think there's a degree of bravery that's sort of being overlooked by, you might say I'm not involved in a physical realm, but I am involved in the intellectual realm.
And I think that there's a component of masculinity where related to bravery when it comes to speaking uncomfortable truths, which I've certainly done in the four years or so I've been doing this podcast.
I've basically, by doing this, I've made myself completely unemployable, like I already mentioned.
And I do think that you benefit the world, if that's what, like I 100% think.
Well, some people might disagree with that.
I don't disagree with that.
And I was a huge supporter of Charlie Kirk.
I know that a lot of people had different feelings about it.
I was devastated when that happened.
And I think that it is so wrong, especially in this country.
And I do think that you benefit the world.
I'm saying as a standard of masculinity, you should be able to, from my standard, provide and protect your family, regardless of what the climate, economic, or anything else.
And I feel like the men that I have around me, which is again where I draw my masculinity standards, fit that standard.
And I mean, my husband is happy to have an honest conversation and call people out on their shit too.
But he obviously doesn't do it to the scale that you do.
Right, but I do think there's a certain sacrifice and bravery as it relates to getting on the internet and saying these things.
Mind you, I got on the internet back in, well, I mean, I've been doing YouTube for a while, but I got into it when it was really untenable to have these conversations back in 2022 is when I started.
And I think things have shifted a bit where conversations that were not acceptable four years ago are kind of okay now.
But I mean, I think a lot of guys who, and I'm not knocking them for not wanting to do it.
Like, if you have a family and you're working some job as a man, you definitely, can we start serving the people?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can you start giving people the pizza, I guess?
Also, just pause.
My husband owns a construction company, just and he does most of the work, but he's not a mechanic.
He just is able.
Okay.
Well, I guess I would say that in terms of if bravery is a component of masculinity, like you wouldn't believe the amount of men who DM me who will tell me, I appreciate what you say on the podcast, Brian, because it's not okay to like I would get fired from my job if I had these conversations or I espoused these kinds of things.
And so look, I'm not trying to do some massive defense of myself, but ultimately, I think we got to look at this through different paradigms.
Also, you mentioned like ability to protect your family.
I believe in force equalizers.
So I don't know what that means.
I'm sorry.
Firearms.
Oh, okay.
I mean, we have lots of those things.
Okay, like I'm not black belt and jiu-jitsu, but like, yeah, I can, with a firearm, I can kill somebody.
Like, I mean, I can protect my family with a firearm.
So, I mean, I don't.
We have force equalizers available to us, I guess.
And also, even if I'm like, even if I was like some kick-ass fucking jiu-jitsu guy, fucking MMA dude, if there's like three people doing the home invasion, I think I'd rather be a white belt with a firearm than a black belt without a firearm.
I mean, we have lots of firearms also, and he's he provides security at our church.
He's on the security team, so he stands guard, armed guard at the doors.
Well, that's great.
But he can also, and like in Utah, it's a little bit different, right?
So he has a concealed carry permit.
In Utah and in Idaho, you actually don't have to have a permit to conceal carry.
And so he does generally have firearms on him.
But like if we're out walking around and he doesn't have one on and somebody were to some way engage with me in like a violent or threatening manner, he would be able to deal with that without having to, like, with if he doesn't have the gun on him.
Why Women Attract Different Men 00:09:52
Fuck with that.
I feel like all these things are important, but the most masculine thing for a guy is that he respects women.
That's it.
Like, there's so many guys that don't respect women or see them as an object, I would say.
Because women have objectified themselves.
Like, it's, again, it's a response to the culture at hand.
Like, if every guy would treat every girl with this chivalrous standard that so many of you are asking, he would be a simp.
You would consider him to be a simp, depending on the woman he was doing it for.
You guys don't want pizza?
Okay, it's like I wouldn't be super offended if I was single and I went out on a first date and the man wasn't overly chivalrous because it's a response to the dating culture.
That's why I didn't circle it.
Like obviously I prefer a man to be chivalrous and my fiancé certainly is so.
But it's not an expectation because it's not realistic in today's dating marketplace.
And yeah, you can say menagunas and all of this stuff, but again, it's in men's nature to be sexual because going back to cavemen times, right?
They wanted to reproduce, have as many kids as possible.
It's an animalistic part of the brain.
And in response to the marketplace at hand now with OnlyFans and everything, like people ask, you know, is it the woman's fault for putting out the OnlyFans or is it the man's fault who purchase it?
Obviously, it's the woman's fault.
Obviously, it's the woman's fault because that men have that automatic animalistic response in their brain.
So the burden is on you to not activate.
Right, but also if they weren't buying it, then women wouldn't have to do it.
Look how much money they're getting from this.
Yeah, I know.
And honestly, I kind of don't blame women fully for that because of feminism, because of the cultural programming.
But I do think that the burden, if women want to change it, if they want men to stop being greeners and do all these things, stop being horse.
Well, the women that are doing it, they don't care.
Yeah, well, they should, and they should be shamed.
We need to bring shame back in our culture.
There is literally no shame in society anymore.
I don't agree with the shame part, but I will say the women are providing the men with this content.
Oh, yeah, sorry.
The women are what?
I don't agree.
I don't agree with the shame part, but women are providing the men with this content.
What?
The shame.
The OnlyFans.
OnlyFans.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But because they're paying so much money also.
Well, OnlyFans and men being fuckboys or whatever they're called and like running through women.
That's a direct result, I think, of the sexual liberation from feminism.
I do think, though, that if a man is going to ask a woman on a date because of the way she carries herself, like not only is she very good looking, but she carries herself well, right?
She dresses appropriately.
She does whatever it is that has caught your eye, which is harder now because of online.
I know there's like a lot of online dating stuff.
Yeah.
I understand that, but like throughout in the wild and you see a woman, you enjoy how you enjoy how she carries herself and you take her on that first date.
Like I think that men should be chivalrous on that first date.
And I have never let's let's do the framework like this.
I think men should only be chivalrous to women who are deserving of it.
Agree.
I would agree with that.
Okay.
So I mean my objections to chivalry.
So basically my position is if the woman's not traditional, she doesn't deserve traditional treatment.
If you're an OER girl, if you, you know, are liberal.
The guys are the ones that are choosing which woman they're going out with, right?
So they can tell.
Like if they want to know exactly how they can see what route they're going.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Is that since I started OnlyFans, I have gotten like date offers from men that are like way better than before I had it.
Well, because it'll always be desired.
Like that goes back to OnlyFans models, beautiful women, revealing women.
They will always be desired by men.
It's not hard to be desired by men.
Do they want to date you or do they just want to have sex with you?
They want to date us.
They do.
They would want to marry men.
They are not going to marry you.
I have had multiple people.
Most of the guys don't want to marry girls that have, that do this kind of thing.
And why did you reject them?
Because they're fucking simps.
The only men who would propose to an OnlyFans girl is a man who doesn't respect himself.
He's a simp.
Naturally, you're going to reject it, obviously.
No, it's 100% true.
I don't think being there, it's for multiple reasons.
Number one, it's because sexual promiscuity, they don't want to get diseases.
They don't want a kid that's not theirs, but also, no, it's true.
Disease is for what?
For women who are sexually promiscuous.
You do realize, right, I'm going to do a little stud here, whatever.
You do realize that.
I thought you didn't believe in artistic ethics.
Now you bless women.
You don't do your low stat.
The porn industry.
It's harder to catch an SDI when you're working as a sex worker in the porn industry than it is to sleep with random people.
I will not sleep with anyone unless you have a two-week test and you have to get that test updated every time.
Can I ask you a question respectfully?
There's more of a risk of someone like, I don't know, because you're the youngest one, like going to a party and you're having sex with a random guy catching something.
So talking about promiscuity in general and promiscuity is going to be way more promising.
Probably not the industry.
Will ever sleep with anyone that's actually back in the industry?
Will ever sleep with anyone unless they're at the end of the day?
The majority.
Let me just jump in on this super quick.
The people in like the trad porn industry, the mainstream or whatever it's called, they all like have herpes.
Because you guys don't test for herpes.
You don't test for HPV.
Yes, we do.
We test for everything.
You guys just assume that you all do not test for herpes.
I can show you my test right now.
Go on my phone.
I mean, you can show me.
I mean, you're in the UK, though.
Maybe there's different legal standards in the UK.
And the UK, when you work in the US, when you work with a career in the US, it has to be an American test.
Because in the UK, they don't test for.
Well, I would also argue that the majority of sex workers are not porn stars anymore.
They're OnlyFans girls, and it's just women.
I'm a porn star.
Well, I know you're not a porn star.
What did you say?
No, she's saying she is.
Okay.
Well, the majority of women who are in the sex work industry are not porn stars anymore because of how normalized OnlyFans has become.
The other point that I wanted to make is a reason why men weren't date, or sorry, weren't marry an OnlyFans girl is because he cares about his kids and he doesn't want his kids to be bullied.
There are so many kids now that have been bullied out of school, that have self-harmed, that have even unalive themselves.
I don't know if we can say.
Yeah, yeah, we get it.
We get it.
Because of the shame of kids bullying from their mother.
Do you really would you be okay with that?
I would like to know who it is that died from it.
I would really like to know.
I'm also saying that I do agree that sex workers shouldn't have kids.
I do agree.
Do you agree with that?
I do agree with that.
You don't want to have kids?
I don't want to kill kids.
Well, then how are you going to get married?
Most men want to reproduce and have kids.
Their legacy is their children.
Not most men.
Good men.
So, can you send the test results to the Instagram page and show me?
Because, I mean, I've spoken to women in the mainstream porn industry.
Herpes, HSV, and HPV are typically not included in these tests.
They test for HIV, gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis.
And gym.
Yeah, but they're not checking typically for herpes and HPV.
Also, who said they didn't catch it within those two weeks?
That's also true.
I understand this.
It's less likely for us to catch something.
It's more likely.
How?
You're dealing with so many people.
We're not dealing with so many people at all.
Wait, here, just send me the thing to do.
Is it okay if I share just a quick story to kind of get my point across?
So I was, my great-grandfather, I grew up next door to him.
He was like one of the biggest role models in my life as far as men go.
Him and my great-grandmother were married for well over 50 years.
She got rheumatoid arthritis and was bedridden.
She was in a wheelchair.
She couldn't move her hands or anything like that.
In order for her to feel beautiful, she had always taken such good care of herself.
My grandpa did go learn how to do hair and makeup.
And every morning he would get her up in her wheelchair, put her in her beautiful dress, do her hair, do her makeup, because he cherished that woman and that relationship and everything that she had done.
So that is the difference between being desired by a man and being cherished by your husband.
Totally.
Yeah.
It's really unfortunate that that type of climate doesn't exist anymore.
But again, it's a response to women and the burden of performance is on women to change it.
The only way it's going to change is if women decide enough is enough.
Well, and it can exist.
Like, again, that just goes back to how you carry yourself.
The way that you carry yourself determines what kind of men you attract to yourself.
Yes.
It's like, if you carry yourself well, you're going to attract high-quality men that want to provide and protect and want to take care of you in that way.
On the other side of that, if you're carrying yourself not as well, then you're going to attract probably more men.
But I don't know that the quality is going to be.
I think that a lot of self-respecting men, right, they understand the dating marketplace.
They don't want to be simps, and for that reason, they're not going to provide the chivalrous behavior that everybody's seeking.
Until, yes, you can attract a high-value man.
I certainly did, but also we were friends for like a year beforehand.
So we were able to get to know each other on that level.
Most people in this climate, they're not doing that.
They have, what is it?
I don't even know what the dating apps are.
Like, yeah, they have Tinder, they have all of these things.
And also, a lot of men are kind of blackpilled and they've given up.
And so they're just getting into these like parasocial relationships with these OnlyFans girls because it's, from my understanding, not just uploading content, you're also messaging a lot of them as well, right?
Or they're hiring men to or hiring staff to message with them, some of the higher-level ones.
And it's crazy the level of emotional manipulation that goes into it.
Like there was this woman, Mercedes Moore, who was brutally murdered by one of her subscribers because she essentially convinced him mentally that he was dating her.
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He broke into her house, he murdered her and wrote on the walls in blood.
Oh my god.
Like, I thought she loved me.
She told me that I was her only one.
All of this stuff.
Yeah, you're not supposed to do that kind of stuff on the platform, though, you can't.
But a lot of women do because they want more money and they want bigger donations.
Anybody, like, you know, just act like their girlfriend, you can't do that.
A lot of OnlyFans girls that I've spoken to have literally said, I convince these men that I am their girlfriend.
So it's called experience.
It's an experience.
It's not like I'm your girlfriend.
It's not like you can promise anybody.
It's like experience.
They're paying for the experience.
Let me read this chat really quick.
David, good to see you.
Thank you for the super chat.
Love the show because it's relevant to dating funny, well-produced, even if I'm liberal.
Do believe feminism did hurt family structure.
I support women's rights.
Just a thought.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate that.
Agree.
I mean, again, so do you want to read your STD results?
You were right.
It doesn't check for herpes.
Shut down.
It doesn't check for her.
I'll show you though.
That's one of the ones that walks down.
Always down.
I'm going to read it off the plug my shit.
Okay.
So check.
HIV, Trichomonis.
I don't know what the fuck.
Mycoplasma, Tropona.
It's tested for chlamydia.
It's testing for HIV.
Oh, gonorrhea.
Oh, there's.
Wait.
I don't see syphilis.
I don't see.
Wait.
Okay.
Your test only checks for HIV, chlamydia, gonorrhea, RPR.
Wait.
Oh, no, no, no, no, that is syphilis, my mistake.
It labels it as RPS.
Yeah, they're all called different things.
Chivalry.
So the reason they don't test for HPV and herpes is because in the industry, you fucking get it.
All the porn stars on a long enough timeline, they all end up with herpes.
Genital herpes.
You know, you can have it and you won't know that you have it.
Listen, bro.
If they tested for it, I'm just test for it in the UK.
So, but this idea that these porn stars are cleaner, not on the HPV and herpes front.
No way.
I'm saying it's harder for us as we're tested weekly to catch something.
So by saying like porn stars are like riddled with SDIs and stuff, it's just not true.
Herpes and HPV.
Now, I personally would rather get chlamydia.
But HPV not on that.
I would rather get gonorrhea than HPV.
Those two are permanent.
Yep.
Look, I don't want chlamydia or gonorrhea either.
Yeah, I'd rather not get any of them.
It was like, but those can be treated.
Those can be temporary.
Herpes, HPV, that shit's permanent.
You can get cancer if you get HPV, especially women.
Well, men too.
But so, yeah, I mean.
But you can also get that.
She doesn't even know.
She's the porn star, and I know more about the testing that they do.
She doesn't even know that they don't test for herpes and HPV.
They do in the UK.
I don't live here, bro.
You literally showed me, and you were like, no, they definitely test for herpes and HPV.
You showed me the test.
I told you, you clocked my shit.
Okay, that's it.
At least you acknowledge that.
Can I ask respectfully a question?
I always wanted to know.
Do you think that it's wrong what you're doing or that it's not respectful for yourself, but it's just worth the money?
Or you think it's totally fine?
I think I'm very sex positive and I don't think it's disrespectful for myself or anyone around me or my family.
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I think a job's a job and I've got a job.
You don't see any issue with it.
I see no issue.
I can see why you guys would see issue with it.
Of course, I could.
I'll be like the devil's advocate.
I could see why, like, you're a trad mom.
Obviously, you're not going to like that I'm a porn star.
That's completely up to you.
But in my mind, I'm fine with it.
Okay.
In my parents' mind, they're fine with it.
Really quick, I want to just come back to the chivalry thing really quick because this was your disagreement.
You said you don't think the host is very chivalrous.
So, I mean, in terms of chivalry, if the woman is deserving of it, like I'm going to take care of everything if I'm dating a woman.
In terms of the chivalry, I mean, your definition of chivalry might be different.
Obviously, I acknowledge that there's different components of chivalry.
But if I'm dating a woman, everything is going to be taken care of.
So.
How soon?
Oh, how soon?
I mean, if it's the girl who I'm with long-term, she's never going to have to work.
But from the beginning, how soon?
No, not from the beginning.
Obviously, you just meet a person, but you do expect her to do your laundry.
Cloak teachers.
Yes, correct.
Clock that teeth.
And I think that's the thing.
Laundry is like the easiest troll, by the way.
It's not about the laundry.
Oh, my God.
I guess let me explain it like that.
So you might be like, because you were asking, why should the woman do laundry?
On the first time, sure, first time.
Why should I just say that?
But why should the man pay on the first date, right?
And so I just break it.
Whatever.
So.
Break it down.
Yeah, I break it down as follows.
So when women say men should pay on first dates, here's what that translates to.
Here's the entailment of that.
So let's say I think a reasonable first date, by the way, I think dinner is kind of like whack first date or whatever, but a lot of guys do do the dinner dates.
So, and some women, I've seen all these Instagram stories, TikTok store, not stories, TikTok posts, videos, whatever, where they're like, oh, I won't do just a walking date.
I won't do a coffee date.
It shows a lack of intention, blah, blah, blah.
The girls are against, some girls are against it.
Some girls are fine with it.
I think a lot of women, I don't know if I would say it a lot, but there's a loud, perhaps minority that's like, absolutely not to the non-dinner date.
Non-dinner date.
No, you want to get coffee.
You want to get do a walk.
Nah.
So for a guy to take you out to dinner, I think a reasonable price is $100 for the dinner.
You can go to Chili's, get an appetizer, one or two drinks, main course, dessert, tip.
You're going to spend $100.
Now, assuming that, let's say it's like you were to look at it as her meal, your meal.
Say it's $50.
Her part of the bill is $50, amounts to $50.
A guy who makes $20 an hour has to work two and a half hours to take a girl out to a $100 dinner.
Why is he making $20 an hour?
Because maybe he's if you're 18 and 19 years old, you're dating guys who are making, but even 18 and 19-year-old girls, when they get asked out on dates, may or typically, I would say, have some expectation the guy pays for dates.
Or what is also pretty common is they just go over and fuck.
That aside, though, I would point out that there are 18, 19, 20, 21-year-old women.
There are certainly men who make $20 an hour.
Let's not ignore that reality.
So, for that man who makes $20 an hour to take a woman on a date and it's a $100 dinner, well, for the date total, it's five hours, but you guys are going to say, Well, only her portion of the meal is $50.
So, that's two and a half hours.
I'm not going to factor in tax.
People are like, Oh, Brian, you got to factor in tax.
So, it's actually three hours.
Whatever.
We're just going to take it at $20 an hour.
Yeah, you get the point.
Can I argue that?
Hold on, one thing, one thing really quick.
So, when women say men should pay for first dates, on the first date, that means you're going to your labor, you're going to have to essentially labor for two and a half hours to treat me to dinner.
I get that.
So, when I say I want a woman to do my laundry, that takes like okay, you load it into the washer five minutes, not even you, you put it in the dryer five minutes, not even folding it, probably the longest part, 20 minutes.
So, I'm asking you to do 20, 30 minutes of work, and it's like super easy.
While you women, if you're dating a masculine man like this woman over here, says he could be working a really physically demanding labor job to make that $20 an hour, he could be digging ditches, he could be doing something really like lifting heavy shit, or who knows?
There's all kinds of really physically demanding jobs that are predominantly done by men.
So, when women say men should pay for dates, you're saying go work for two, three, four, five, six hours, depending on how much he's spending.
So, I don't think from that framework that it really seems all that objectionable if women are allowed to say, go work two, three, four hours to take me out, why can't I say do 30 minutes of work in my house?
What's wrong with that?
So, I also think I don't think men should pay for the first date.
I never, I don't think that, but I'm playing devil's advocate here.
Women, when they go on the first date, I have to pay $100 to get my nails done, an extra $100 to get my toes done, my hair needs to be done, my makeup needs to be done.
Like, so, like, I'm still paying that much.
Like I say, it takes a lot of work to first.
Divide that by the amount of men that you go on the date with there.
You don't buy new makeup and go and get your hair done every time you go on a date.
So, if a woman is a whore and she's going on a date with like 20 men per week, divide 20 by 200.
That's like kiddo.
I mean, I'm talking about the current dating culture.
First, women have a raw, so I don't think they should be.
Obviously, I don't.
Well, okay, so let's examine this through the lens of makeup.
So, okay, we have to be coherent with our application and stuff like that.
So, hold on.
When you buy makeup, is it a single serve?
Like, when you go buy a canister of makeup or whatever the fuck.
I don't know where the fuck that shit comes in.
No, but it's very expensive.
Like, you're not applying the entire canister.
No, but it's not just makeup.
It's like waxed or gay.
Well, I'm here.
My nails.
Okay, it's right.
Hold on.
Do women wear makeup and do all that shit for men?
Because I thought they didn't.
I never said that.
Because women will say, I don't wear makeup for men.
I don't look, do all these things for men.
Honestly, men don't give a fuck about your fake nails.
Men don't care.
That's not.
That's for women.
That's a woman gaze thing.
Men don't care.
A lot of guys do care about it.
I like it.
They like to see that your personal experience.
A man literally was like, You don't have your nails done.
Well, he's gay.
Yeah, that's so gay.
Oh my gosh.
I don't know.
My nails don't get my lashes on it.
I dated one dude in my whole life.
You dated a guy not just gay, like a tranny.
Tranny like.
Oh my goodness.
I mean, I'm not saying.
It wasn't even like anything.
It was like, damn, you don't have like nails to like.
Would he still fuck you?
I mean, yeah, but apparently he's gay, so no.
I mean, look, this look, maybe he was interesting you a little bit.
Most, if you were to actually like have a genuine conversation with most men, her, look, have clean nails.
Yeah.
Have like dirt under your hands.
Exactly.
By the way, that should be the case for men too.
Don't have dirty nails, but like the fake, like, show us your nails.
Show us your nails.
Lovely.
Men don't give a shit about that.
Not at all.
Not compliments.
I'm not saying like don't put your best foot forward on the date.
Obviously, you want to look good.
You don't want to look like you just rolled out of bed.
But when it comes to like huge fake lashes, the umbrellas, when it comes to fake nails and all these things that women spend upon if a woman comes like without any like makeup, whatever hair, like he's not going to appreciate it.
She's not wearing any makeup.
Yeah, yeah.
No, you have like foundation clothes.
She's beautiful, right?
But she puts herself together.
She paid for the things she's used, but she doesn't have any nails on.
I don't think anyone would have a problem with her on a date.
Oh, sorry, sorry, continue.
I'm just saying I don't think anyone would have a problem with that.
There's a difference between rolling out of bed, wearing baggy, like a baggy t-shirt, not dressing feminine for their clothes.
You can still put your best foot forward without all of this excessive bullshit.
You're going extreme.
It's not about the extreme.
It's just even the minimum of getting nice clothes, wearing heels, whatever, do your hair.
Those things also cost money.
They do.
There are things that you would do generally because you want to present yourself well to society, right?
Also, one thing on this argument that, so is your position that women spend more, like getting ready for dates?
I was just playing devil's advocate.
But is that your some women?
That's their position.
I wouldn't say it's my position.
I was just wanting to harden.
No.
So women will say, well, I spend more to get ready for dates, so therefore men should pay.
But then logically, the logical extension of that would have to be: if I can demonstrate that I actually paid more to get ready for the date, then logically the woman should have to pay for the date.
It's not about the money.
No, so for example, like let's say I'm dating a girl who works at Chipotle and I make millions of dollars a year and I show up in my Lamborghini.
Logically, she would have to pay for the date because I showed up in the Lamborghini.
And that costs way more than that's the logical extension of, well, women spend more money on the date.
Like, or even who knows, maybe I show up.
I could show up in like really expensive designer shit and she's wearing stuff from Costco.
I think whoever wants to pay for the date should pay for the date.
Right, but I'm using the amount of money.
I'm addressing your logic.
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Your logic is.
I just want to explain that.
No, I know, but I'm addressing the logic of that.
The logic being, while women spend more to get ready, therefore men should pay on dates.
But in a scenario, a hypothetical scenario.
That's not the reason they should.
Well, that's her argument or her devil's advocate argument.
Here we have a super chat that we're going to read.
We're going to have Serenity read it, read it with her serene voice.
Oh, thank you.
I've been with my girl for six years.
I've been the sole provider since day one.
She lives rent-free in my house, and I give her weekly allowance.
However, she gets mad when I ask her if dinner will be ready when I get home.
She says, I should never expect it.
That's good.
I'm sorry, it's over, dude.
Breakup.
100%.
I disagree.
Ryu, are you watching right now?
Are you watching right now?
That is a little extensive.
Extensive.
Excessive.
Excessive.
I disagree.
My communications degree going to work.
You need to dump her.
Ryu.
You need to record yourself dumping her right now and send it to my Instagram so we can react to the video on the stream.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
But this guy is doing all this.
Yeah, even a weekly allowance and stops.
There is gold diggers out there.
Like, you're letting her live for six years, letting her live rent-free and a weekly allowance.
She won't cook.
I'll cook you a dinner.
It's a raw deal.
It's a raw deal for the guy.
Okay, we have Mary.
Do we have the gender swap?
What do we have?
I hate that.
Me too.
All right, let's do the gender swap.
What is that?
Oh, don't make me.
All right, so the question is.
Also, Alina, could you collect the plates, please?
All right, we're going to do.
Yeah, she's going to come that way.
Did we lose a mic clip over here?
I think we're going to do it.
Oh, yeah, it kept falling off.
Do you know how to put it?
No, it's just really loose.
Okay.
So the question's going to be: would you date the male version of you?
If you can, give quick answers.
Go ahead, Mary.
He looks like a baby.
Okay, yeah, no.
I just thought I wouldn't.
Do I look like a baby?
Would you date him yesterday?
I would say I would grow out my hair.
I wouldn't have that haircut if I was him.
Okay.
Would you date me?
Nah.
Next.
You look young.
No, that's my brother.
No, that's my brother.
Who's fucking doing this?
You guys are being way too fucking generous.
Okay.
Yeah, it is.
I like that.
Would you date him?
No, it looks like my brother.
Okay, next.
Wait, I look so 2016.
You look here, you're gonna be like, Just like that.
Nah, look at this.
You're so cute.
Oh, thanks.
I would not.
Yeah, no.
Why?
He's cute.
Say that.
Lacking melanin.
All right.
Make him black.
Can you make him black?
Can somebody make him black?
Seriously?
Yeah, I want to see that.
Next.
I know.
Ooh.
Wait, smash.
Looks like Daniel Radcliffe a little bit.
Wow.
Looks really good.
Oh, Amy, could you just tilt your mic down a little bit?
Next.
Oh, it's going.
It's doing it like a way.
I would say our models of us.
Yo, this is y'all.
Wait, play back in black.
Make him black.
Is that what you said?
That's your time.
All right, next.
Tada BN.
Rosie cheeks.
Next.
I didn't even see that one.
Hey.
Honestly, both.
Would you date him?
No comment.
No.
No com.
They kind of look a little engine.
All right, next.
Oh.
The thing is, why are you passing that so fast?
I could not date a man that looked like me because similar dating would be accused.
I know a lot.
But do you think he's attractive, I guess?
That would be the question.
Yeah, absolutely.
What the fuck are you guys?
Who's fucking doing these?
This is amazing.
Can we see you as a girl?
We would date him.
Wait, can we see you as a girl?
Way too Jenny.
Yes, we're going to do that.
Next.
Oh, hell yeah.
Us here.
All right, there's Alina.
All right.
Oh, boy.
Next.
They're using the old one.
Okay.
Yeah, I would date the one on the right.
Really?
Yeah, why not?
Yeah, she's good looking.
She's my size.
Yeah.
Okay.
Is there any more, Mary, or is that it?
Oh, we had some reacts.
We had some tweets or something.
Was it three tabs that we have?
Yeah, we'll do those super quick.
All right, do the first one.
Summer, can you read this?
Is it you?
Why are you going to write?
Can you read it?
Read it in the not in your brain in the microphone, please.
No.
Just read it.
Oh my god.
Read it.
Ovulation is not for the meat because why am I daydreaming about being locked in a room with multiple men and letting them have their way with me?
I'm literally the most innocent girl you'd meet.
I don't get it.
I think that last part.
Why do you think you're innocent?
I actually, oh yeah, you are.
So you want to do a gangbang.
I'd say.
Super innocent.
That's when you're ovulating.
That's just your fault.
Thinking crazy things.
Crazy things.
Serenity, have you thought about being gangbanged?
I ain't got my Twitter, bro.
Gosh, I heard that.
No, no.
Okay, that's interesting.
Next tweet, I guess.
This is me again, I swear.
Lost what?
The tabs.
And you remember it in the flag.
The what?
Oh, my God, sorry.
How shall I do that?
You can hit the hide current comment thing.
Which I just did.
Pull up your tweets.
Okay, can we do the tweet?
No, it's hard.
Okay, can you read the summary?
Again, me!
Guys, I've truly been corrupted because why am I fantasizing about doing a four men and me?
What is the only thing?
No one will bad at one.
Listen, guys, I was going for a situation and I really wanted to do a gangbang.
But why do you let the world know that?
Yeah, it's just not that many people.
Promo, babe.
Promo.
Why are we really in somewhere today?
Was the next one me again?
Oh, good.
Don't scroll down, Mary.
Read that.
Do men even like going down on women for real?
Be honest.
I will message you.
Okay, cool.
She's at the end of the day.
Do you think it's well, one, is it a deal breaker for a guy won't go down?
Yes.
Deal breaker?
Nah.
Yep.
Narrate's preferred there.
1,000%.
Deal breaker?
No.
Not a deal breaker?
Well, wait, can I say something?
I mean, I guess not a deal breaker.
I'd enjoy that.
Into the mic, please.
I don't know.
I don't care.
Okay, I would say if he doesn't care about the girl not going down on him, I wouldn't care about him not going down on me.
It's not the same.
I love giving TV.
That is a good point.
What do you mean?
Which way?
It's not the same for a guy to go down on a girl.
True.
Why?
It's different.
It's very different.
The smell.
Why is it different?
You've done both to me.
Is it different?
I think men just naturally want to do things like that.
That's it.
Also, girls have many more cravings.
They just crave in for it.
So I don't know.
It's not about deal breaker.
Girls have many more options, also, like other ways.
I don't have that much.
And I feel like, I don't know, like girls, it's their smell.
It's different.
It's not like crazy.
If you're smelling, then that's really crazy.
I have not ever gotten that ever.
What are you talking about?
I'm not talking about my experience.
No, I'm just saying in general, not you.
You don't go on social media.
You don't see like.
Hold on.
Men are super bashful about that.
Like, I don't think men even know how to approach the conversation of like you smell bad down.
Like, that is just, you know, like, how about this?
Have you ever encountered somebody with bad breath?
And did you not tell them?
It's kind of like 10x is like hesitance of telling somebody if they it's bad down there.
Like if that was the case, would you be like scared to have regular sex as well with them?
Yeah, off-pudding.
It would still be off-pudding, but I remember I actually encountered this in my dating life and I had to.
I actually do you want me to read you guys the text I sent the girl?
Yeah, you should say it's her face.
She should know.
No, I did tell her.
Hold on.
Did you not get her in the shower before?
Yeah.
Even if you shower.
I mean, Brian, how old is Dexter?
I was going to say, because I remember the last time I was on this podcast, which was like three years ago, you were saying that you didn't like it.
Oh, well, so I didn't go down on her, but so it wasn't like I went down, but you can still.
Oh, even still?
When your face wasn't even close to it?
Oh, God.
Doggy style.
You can get some sense.
Maybe she had like BV or something.
That is not normal.
She had something.
That's not normal.
There's some sort of hygiene or health issue going on.
Not enough water.
Yes.
You don't know the jokes that they say that like women smell like fish.
If you're smelling fish, that's zombie, bro.
I'm not talking about BV.
I'm saying it like on the internet.
Like, I always see, like, conversations about it.
That's, like, because there's a lot of whores.
That's an infection.
That's a hygiene issue.
Yeah, I would think.
Yeah, that's a high.
Hygiene or infection for sure.
Okay.
Oh, I found it.
I found it.
Okay.
I'll read it to you guys.
And even if you do it as diplomatically as I did, by the way, this is before Chat GPT.
So it wasn't like, you know, you know how GPT's fucking like 300 IQ with like, oh, this is like a really good thing to say.
That fix things nicely for you.
Oh, yeah.
I can, you could be like, whoa, like, that's a way better way to say that thing.
Okay, so here it is.
And by the way, afterwards, like, she basically ghosted me.
Obviously.
I didn't.
Pretend.
Did you want to keep seeing her after that?
Not really.
But like, I would have gone to the text.
Well, no, she could have worked on it.
She could have.
Yeah, but even if you approach it super diplomatic.
So here's the text.
And you guys are going to be like, oh, Brian, that's so wholesome and nice or whatever.
Okay, so by the way, prior to chat GPT, so I fucking brains this shit.
I know this is kind.
Let me read it.
I know this is kind of an embarrassing topic, and I'm sorry for that.
But last time we hung out, I noticed a different scent down there than the last time.
And I wanted to make sure you were aware of it.
Just maybe something to bring up with your gyno, potentially.
I hope this is not embarrassing, but just thought you should know so you can address any potential issues.
Maybe it's nothing, but figured I should say something.
I thought it wasn't even her fault.
You should have said it to her face.
That was mature.
No, that was a well-profit.
I know it was together.
It's going to be more embarrassing to her if he said it.
That shit stays.
Say it again.
It's not like he straight out.
That was a well way to put it.
It's not like he just stayed.
Hi, EQ.
EQ?
Emotional intelligence.
Oh, okay.
Like the rappers that you guys might date might just be like, hey, yo, bitch, your pussy stank.
No.
I know how to deliver something.
It was a well-put together.
So you said at the start it didn't smell, and then the second time you hung out, it did smell in your text.
Or was that you just wanted to say it in another way?
I don't know, remember the timeline exactly, but it was a long time ago.
So I don't remember how many times we hung out.
I think it was like two or three times we hung out.
Maybe I noticed it the first time and thought.
You were just being polite in text.
What do you mean?
Because you said that you noticed a different smell from the last time.
Yeah, yeah.
I wanted to be, I guess, nicer, polite about it.
Did you smell it the first time?
Yeah.
You did.
You didn't care.
Maybe is there something off with her pH?
Look, if something can be fixed, you know, maybe it was a fluke.
I don't know, but she probably didn't like that very much.
No, but it was probably what she would do.
I would embarrass the match.
I would take that and go to the woman.
And she shouldn't, she would know herself.
Kind of.
I hope she went to the gyno and hey, it could have fixed it for her future prospects.
I don't think ChatGPT could have done a better job to do this.
Thank you, Amy, for coming at me.
Well, do you think it's gay if a guy won't go down on you?
Like, is he a bit gay?
I've heard girls say it's a bit gay.
No, I don't think it's gay.
Because, like, normally the guys that I've heard, like, I don't let because of religious reasons.
It's not really allowed.
But I've like that they enjoy it.
So normally.
If you're Jewish, you can't, like, you can't eat the pussy.
Really?
At all, even if you're married.
But isn't it also required in Judaism that he needs to get her off?
Wait, but you wait.
I literally, I read this the other day.
There's so much BS online, so it's hard to tell.
But somebody made a part saying, literally, in the Torah, it stipulates that the man needs to make his wife climax.
Yeah.
It is.
So you need like a good deed, but not with his mouth.
Oh, okay.
But what if he can do it any other way?
He can do it.
Trust?
Look, look, I think it's okay to not want to do oral sex.
But look, I care about a woman's pleasure.
She should come multiple times before I come.
She needs to come as many times as possible before I come.
Okay.
I'd just be making them come straight ahead.
Hey, some women are multi-orgasmic like that, but not all women have the gift, I guess you could say.
Not me.
Yeah.
I think this idea that, oh, if you don't want to go down on a girl, you don't care about her pleasure.
No, I care about her pleasure.
She's got to come before me.
She's got to come multiple times.
As I said, if you do it with other ways, there's other ways.
But if you don't like doing it, you don't like doing it.
Yeah, if you don't like doing it, you don't like doing it.
What can you do?
It's a complicated situation.
What can you do?
Let's see.
Oh, really quick on the chivalry thing, then we'll move it on to a new topic.
How about this to you?
Do you think men?
So I think this is where I get some criticism.
Okay, so do you think men should be willing to die?
Well, should a boyfriend or husband obviously be willing to protect his girlfriend or wife?
Yes, I would say so.
Should he be willing to do it to the extent of death?
I think if it is your wife and the mother of your children, and that is the case, I guess.
So should women be virgins on their wedding night?
I think that would be preferable.
I wasn't, and that's something that I do have a lot of shame in.
Well, because, look, and I'm not saying you can't have a traditional dynamic with a woman who isn't a virgin, but in terms of the ultimate sacrifice we ask of men in relationships, even with women who are not particularly traditional themselves, I think a lot of women would be really off-put by a guy who, I mean, who wouldn't be willing to take the bullet or wouldn't be willing to sacrifice or protect her to the point of potentially risking his life or even dying.
How about this?
Ultimate Sacrifice 00:10:52
Really quick question.
Let's say you're on a sinking boat and it's just you and your girlfriend or wife or whatever.
Like the Titanic.
Yes, sure.
There was room on the door.
There was.
But you're on a little dinghy boat or some bullshit.
There's one life preserver.
And let's assume in this hypothetical situation that only one person can survive through having the life preserver.
There's no loopholes.
It's not like, oh, I can just tread water for five hours.
Maybe the water's super cold.
Let's just assume one person definitively has to die.
Who should get the life preserver?
The man or the woman?
Starting with you.
Well, the thing is, is I would say if there were children involved in this relationship, then the mother should get the life preserver.
What if they've already suckled at the teeth?
So there's no more breastfeeding.
So they're past the stage of breastfeeding.
Circle with the teeth.
Yeah.
Oh, I hate this concept.
Who takes the life preserver?
How about this?
Wait, wait, wait, different one.
Okay, yeah.
Let's do it a little differently.
You're an observer.
Like, you have a drone and you're observing the sinking ship.
And you see a man and a woman on it.
And you know, somehow you know that they're married.
But I don't know if there's kids involved.
Who do you judge more harshly if they take the life preserver?
The man or the woman?
This is so hard.
I don't, like, I want them to both live.
Is the man kind of a bitch?
But what if it's a other, like...
Like, is he bitch-made?
Okay, well, we'll say if I'm like droning over and I see that he's like, nah, fuck you.
I should get the life preserver.
I'd be like, damn, like, let the girl have it.
But if the girl's being like, no, you don't deserve it.
Then like, let, like, more selfless.
I'd be like, selfish.
Yeah.
Like, no, you take it.
No, you take it.
If it was me in the situation, damn, I'm taking it.
But I'll be like, no, I'll take it.
And he's like, no, here you go.
I'm like, okay.
Okay, it's a complicated hypothetical, I think.
Well, so I don't know.
I think the ultimate manifestation of a man protecting a woman would be to give his life for her.
But I feel like I'm not afraid of that.
But if that is chivalry, I think the ultimate sacrifice a woman can make.
Well, maybe there's two.
Is to do laundry.
No, definitely not.
To remain a virgin.
I don't know if that's even the sacrifice because that's beneficial to her also.
I mean, absent, she's sacrificing her base animal urge to get like fucked by some dudes in the frat house when she's in college.
But I don't know if remaining chaste is like a sacrifice.
I don't know.
That would be perhaps one of the ultimate gifts you could give him.
But the other thing would be to bear him many children.
That would be the other thing.
You think she should be a virgin, but he shouldn't?
Or does it matter?
I don't think that how that's related.
Look, ultimately, in an ideal world, and I know we don't live in an ideal world, both men and women observed chastity.
And maybe the bare minimum could be people only engaged in sex in serious relationships.
But I mean, we could extend it further to, look, again, I know things aren't perfect.
Ideal world, you're both virgins, and then you stay with them for the rest of your life.
But I know things are complicated.
People are very imperfect.
Relationships don't work out.
But you have, like last week, we had a woman on the show who was 18 years old and she already slept with 12 men.
And it's like, that's getting a bit far away from, very far away from this ideal of chastity.
Look, even if you just have sex with guys you've only been in long-term relationships with and your body count is two, three, four, whatever, and then you get married, whatever.
That's not the worst thing.
But I don't know.
I think if men have, we got to die for you, you should at least be a virgin.
Like, if I got to die, you should at least be a virgin.
Even then, though, I'm still in the middle of the day.
And then you're dying without a double.
I don't take the bullet.
I get the life preserver.
I don't care how fucking trad and base she is.
I'm taking the life preserver.
What are you going to do about it?
Implication, we're on the boat because of the implication.
There's nothing we can do.
If it would be my husband, I would fight too.
I would want to give him my life as well.
Like, I feel like real love is you both want it like for each other.
Now, you might say, Brian, you're such a feminine little bitch.
You're such a...
Brian, you wouldn't give your life for your wife.
You wouldn't give your...
You wouldn't die for your woman.
You wouldn't die for your girlfriend.
You wouldn't die for.
I don't care how fucking based and trad and she could be she could have the immaculate conception Like, we have kids and she's still a virgin.
Like, I don't know how that fucking works.
What?
Wow.
Oh, no, that's fucking hard.
Never mind that.
I'm just saying, she could have borne me, bared me, 10 children, 10 sons.
And she's beautiful.
You're still good.
I'm taking the fucking life jacket.
She can take the bullet.
Fuck that shit.
Because here, you might say, Brian, that's a good idea.
Are you actually serious?
Fuck yeah, I'm serious.
You guys say, Brian, that's very beta male of you.
Very beta male.
Genghis Khan, you think Genghis Khan with his multiple wives, multiple concubines, if he had to sacrifice his life for one of his wives?
Yeah, one of them.
No, he's sacrificing.
That's one of them.
He's immediately sacrificing his concubine, his wife.
Isn't he the rapist?
Yeah, yeah.
Is that allowed to say that?
I don't know.
Wait, I don't know how that's...
Okay, it's probably fair to say Genghis Khan was definitely...
Forget over here.
But he was also the warlord of Mongolia and fucking conquered the, he had the largest, I think, contiguous.
Wait, what's the word for contiguous?
Is it contiguous?
Land empire in the entire history of the world.
So the English actually had the largest non-contiguous.
Point at me when you say English?
Point at whatever you say.
I hate English.
My mistake.
Brian, can I ask you?
I'm not trying to gotcha or anything, but like, have you been in love?
Like, for real?
I have said I love you too.
But did I mean it?
Did you mean it for me?
Like, here's the thing.
I didn't love.
I don't love you.
I dared you mean.
You're in love now?
No, I've been in love.
You have, for real?
Like, are you like super confident that you actually love her?
If it would be between you and your mom, would you take it or your mom?
Wait, hold on.
Now we're getting into different territory.
No, I'm saying the book is the same.
It's like you're supposed to love your wife more than your mom.
So if you do it for your mom, you should do it for your wife.
I don't think it should be something that's like out of obligation.
It's like something that you would genuinely want to do if you love a person that's in your brain would literally not allow it.
Well, so sorry, I'm a little.
I think kids add a whole nother dynamic to a situation.
So I've definitely been in love with, I've been in love with a few different women in my life.
Great women, by the way.
Some people think that I hate women.
I've had some really good relationships with some fantastic women.
There's maybe, I had one girlfriend a little toxic.
But besides that, the other women I've dated, great women.
No, no, and I don't make it a habit to ever talk poorly about exes.
No, she can take the bullet.
Look, fucking.
I don't think you'd really beat him.
Honestly.
Genghis Khan shit.
Okay, your mom.
Can you answer?
Here's the thing.
So, okay, Amy, you met Andrew Tate recently, right?
By the way, I don't have any beef.
Me and Andrew Tate have talked in DMs.
I agree with him on some things, disagree on others.
I don't have any beef with Andrew Tate.
Andrew Tate has said, who, by the way, I believe he has like multiple.
He does.
I don't know the details, but he has kids from multiple women.
Correct.
I don't know if they're legally his wives.
He's kind of private about that stuff.
But he has said, I think on podcasts, that he would give his life to protect one of his girls or whatever.
So I think it's virtue signaling.
And by the way, I'm not being critical of Andrew Tate.
I don't have beef with him.
But on this specific thing, I think men have a tendency to want to virtue signal on this.
And so I genuinely think if Andrew Tate, in reality, if he was presented with a situation where one of his like 10 girlfriends had to get murked instead of him, I'm not trying to attack Andrew Tate.
Andrew Tate is letting his chick get murked and he's going to continue.
That could be true.
That could be true.
But I also think, here's the thing.
You're also agnostic, right?
So I believe like love is something that's the fruit of the spirit.
It's something that it isn't a chemical in the brain, but I believe that chemical comes from God.
And when you're plugged into God and you're plugged into the spirit, you experience these things on a different level.
Same goes for wisdom.
Same goes for all the other fruits of the spirit.
So I think when you are religious, which he is, you know, he's Muslim, maybe that's obligated in his religion, but believing in the one true God, Jesus Christ, I think that when you're connected to that, it gives you this like superhuman almost ability to experience these things beyond the average person who maybe is agnostic or atheist or otherwise.
Well, I mean, I think compassionate.
Yeah, I mean, but I don't know in terms of, look, I don't know Andrew Tate personally.
I don't know his he converted, I guess, to Islam.
My understanding with strict Islam is premarital sex is not allowed.
I'm pretty sure he's having sex with women he's not married to.
That's why I said you could be correct with him, but I'm speaking from like my experience and my knowledge of a Christian.
If he has 10 wives, he doesn't actually love them because you can't love 10 other people.
You're supposed to have one soulmate.
I could love multiple women.
So it's not real love.
It's not real love.
I mean, in Islam, you're cool to love them equally and provide for them equally.
Do you think you could love another guy as much as you love yourself?
I disagree because I don't think that it's the real religion.
I think it's a fake religion, personally.
Muslim?
Oh, yeah.
What do you think about Judaism?
Same.
I think you guys, you need to know Jesus.
I think if you prayed and all for Jesus.
Jesus was Jewish.
Yeah, but he invented Christianity and he fulfilled the Torah.
He fulfilled all of the old prophecies.
But the Torah was way before that.
How could you think that something is fake if it's Christianity came from that?
Because I believe that Jesus came to fulfill the Old Testament.
I think it's not whole.
Yeah, exactly.
It's not complete.
It's not whole.
Panties and Prophecies 00:12:24
I agree.
There's some Zionist Christians who believe that you can still maybe get into heaven and experience connection with God since it is the same God.
But in Christianity, you believe in the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Okay.
Disagree.
Can I clarify?
I know you do.
I do have to move things on here a little bit.
I was going to say, I don't think you hate women.
That's not my point.
Yeah, I don't.
I don't hate women.
I love women.
Some of them annoy me, but I don't have like, I'm not like a feminist where I'm like, men suck.
Women suck the opposite.
No, no, I don't ever, I've never said women.
You think men are better than women?
I think women are better than men in some ways, and I think men are better than women in some ways.
And I think there are some women who are better at those things than men are, and there's some men who are better at the things that women ought to be good at than the women are.
I think there's, you have to look at the individual level, but I don't know if I'd do a blanket statement like that, but yeah, no, but I would never, I've never said, would never say women are trash, women suck, never said it.
I obviously have criticisms, but yeah.
Anyways, okay.
Final thing here for Lisa.
You said you live in a landscape where the vast majority of women possess none of the traits that warrant or deserve chivalry.
Well, that's why I'm not very chivalrous, I guess.
Well, and that's fair.
I just wanted to make sure that you didn't think that I thought that you hate women.
I don't think that.
I do think that you have a very jaded idea of women, obviously, in the line of work that you do.
And I think a lot of men do just in social media, which is another thing.
I'm not on social media.
So I feel like a lot of people's views on the world are jaded through social media, stuff that people put out on social media, the bots on social media, and that's not something that I personally deal with.
I deal with humans face to face on a daily basis that shape my view of men, women, and whatever.
Okay.
Alina wants to ask you guys a question.
Alina wants to ask a question.
What's everyone's body count?
Four.
Okay.
Nine.
Not gonna answer.
You already answered last time.
You said it was three.
Okay.
It probably got since.
It's been a couple months since you were last on.
Amy?
I believe there's certain things that are between a woman and her fiancé.
Holly?
Body count?
Not applicable.
It's so high that you just, have you forgotten?
No, just NA.
Can you speak into them?
No, just NA.
I don't really want to answer that.
I respect the person.
Don't you do like bukakis on OnlyFans or I do solo things.
Oh, my bad.
Sorry.
I just got confused.
I guess.
Body count.
How about range?
Can you do a range?
Nope.
Lame.
Range?
No.
More than 10, more than 100.
Wait.
More than 10.
More than 10.
What about you?
She's Jewish.
Are you allowed to have sex before marriage?
And we're not allowed.
And that's why I don't want to get into it.
Sinner!
Wait, so why do you have sex?
I thought you were a virgin.
I also do.
You've had sex.
Okay.
I was saving for marriage.
I was in a relationship and I was saving for marriage.
Unfortunately, it got taken by me without my permission.
So after that, I did do it with consent because I was like, whatever, but I still.
The same guy?
No.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
No, it was rape.
But when you say you did it afterwards.
With someone else.
Somebody else with consent.
Because I felt like what I was.
I was clarifying.
Of course.
Yeah.
He's going to jail.
Well, I mean, we've had stories, like, women have come on the show and said that they've dated a guy for three years, and then like on a Tuesday, she was essayed, and then the very next day, she had consensual sex with a guy.
Okay, no.
Also, that wasn't my ex.
Like, my ex was a year ago, and I was with him.
Like, I was keeping for marriage, everything, and then it happened this situation with a guy that I wasn't even interested in.
That's a relationship still with your ex?
What happened?
No, no, no.
No one's really going to believe it, so I don't see a point of talking about it.
It's less than or equal to three.
It's less than or equal to three.
Okay, what about you?
I'm also super low single digits.
Alina?
Two.
Okay.
All right.
What's yours?
Yeah, what's yours?
You guys didn't really reveal the body count.
I did plus your body count.
Almost nobody received it.
Wait, what did you say?
Nobody else reveals.
Wait, you're a porn star and you've only had nine?
Yeah.
So you've only filmed.
How many boys have you filmed?
I've only done two boy girls, and I've got two more coming.
So like you in the industry?
Multiply of all of them.
That's the real number.
I would totally tell you guys if I had a very high body count.
Well, I was in a relationship with my friend.
I always thought that was like a common crazy.
I didn't realize that was about.
You know, if you go over 10, it like impacts your ability to be able to parabond and stay loyal with that man because of the way our like brain is wired.
And also, I genuinely believe that women who like have like 100 person body counts, like it's impossible for them to be sane.
I think they're crazy bitches, to be honest.
How can I even enjoy it after that?
Right.
Do you even feel anything?
I was friends after the human.
After 100.
That's not how it works.
I literally at this point sex with the same man multiple times.
Not how many times.
How many people?
Yeah, but you don't have to do it.
How many sizes?
You do.
Absolutely.
You do.
You lose your ability to parabond and be loyal and actually genuinely fall in love with them.
Like, can you feel having sex if you've had sex like so many times?
You can have it.
Not many times.
I'd say with 100 people, different sizes.
Men should be virgins.
Of course.
100%.
Women should do laundry on the first date.
No shit.
No.
Women should cook.
Women should cleanse.
Women should be suspected.
Not on first date.
Men should die on a boat with their women.
Mary, go ahead and pull up the.
So, Mary, just show the first bow video, but just the bow portion.
Thanks.
Yeah, so this is a video I took with my ex-girlfriend.
Go ahead and play it, Mary.
Just show the bow really quick.
So I want a girl to bow.
Boom.
That's it.
As soon as I get home.
I like the bow.
Yeah, I dumped her, though, for various undisclosed reasons.
And then, Mary, tab over to the next bow video.
Is that serious?
Is that your.
Okay.
That was.
He likes Asian.
He likes an Asian.
Yeah, I got it.
Me too, bro.
I can totally see why you're using me.
Yeah, now this is not my.
This is just some TikTok video, but play the clip.
Yeah, we can play the audio.
All right, so I get home, you know, from work.
Who the fuck do you think you are?
Wait, you know what?
Can you mute the audio?
Because I don't know.
The music.
Did she even bow there?
She didn't, but check this out.
Dinner ready.
Dinner, by the way.
She didn't bow, not good enough.
I know.
She fucked up.
She fucked up.
She's like, really fucked up.
No, this is a different chick.
By the way, the filter's going insane on her fucking face.
Just saying.
It's fucking.
You'll see it.
Oh, and she put on the red dress.
She got it.
Come back out.
She should have already been in the dressing room.
She should have been.
She should have been in the dress.
Her house needs to be fucking cleaned up.
Yes, she's fucking despicable.
She's failing.
Did you see the kitchen?
It was so fucking dirty.
The wine's in the wrong gloss.
That's a champagne gloss.
This bitch salts.
This bitch salts.
She has no idea what she's doing.
And then what does the guy do?
Only pay?
Clearly.
Stay home.
So, I mean, did you film those?
No, That's not radical.
That's some fucking China or something.
Fake.
But no, that would be nice for that's that would be nice for the girl to do.
So Judaism didn't come after Christianity.
Wait, what were wait, how did we get to the bow video?
I don't even know.
Oh, how tall are you?
And what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
I'm 5'2, and I would say the minimum would be like 5'9.
Are you able to scoop that way a little bit?
Yeah.
What about you?
I'm 4'11 and like maybe 5'6, 5'7 ⁇ .
Bella?
Wow.
I don't care.
4'3 and low-key 6'6.
Amy, what about you?
I'm 5'7.
I don't care about that stuff.
My fiancé is a little shorter than me.
Oh, okay.
What about you?
I'm 5'6, and I'd probably say like 6'6'1.
Purely because I'm like a larger, broader lady.
I kind of like a bigger man.
Purely because.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That makes sense.
5'5 and minimum 6.
But also, I feel like once I lose all my weight, probably it would go down.
I wouldn't care as much, but because.
Minimum 6.
Oh, you're saying because.
Because I'm overweight.
I don't want, like, my ex was actually like my height, and it really was like weird.
So, yeah, now because I am overweight, I feel like I want someone that is bigger, at least by height.
Because I don't.
That's interesting.
I don't date overweight.
If the girl's bigger, she really needs to not rush him in bed.
Whoa, not like that.
That's a good frame, you know.
No.
The shorter guys don't have the frame.
Short guys are good.
I tell you.
Well, yeah, I mean, they're better looking.
Best ex I've ever had with a very short one.
Whoa, that's rude.
What's her?
Does she need the giant to pick her up?
No, I'm saying that for girls.
To be fair.
A plump.
I was not wrong.
I'm not offended.
I wasn't even talking about picking up.
Just like look how it looks.
5'7.
5'6.
Minimum height.
5'7.
Okay, what's about you?
I'm 5'6.
My husband's a 6'.
Alina?
I'm 5'6.
I would date 5'7.
Okay, very nice.
Very nice.
As soon as she returns, we are gonna get into a few more segments here.
Let's see.
Tasnim?
You sell dirty socks and panties.
She won't reveal her body count, by the way, but she sends strange men on the internet her worn panties.
Just throwing it out there.
Yeah, I mean, they sell.
And dirty socks.
That is after Jim.
After Jim, they're like.
Disgusting.
For that, I blame the men.
Can I ask?
I blame the men.
How much are you selling that for?
100 bucks for panties and 50 bucks for 100 socks.
100.
100 bucks.
Just for panties.
So weird the foot thing.
Brian, do you get the foot thing at all?
No.
Have you ever had a desire to suckle the tar?
How many of you suck?
I'm getting into it.
It's so weird.
I'm so glad my fiancé isn't into feet because I have like foot model feet.
I have very nice feet.
So I'm very glad he's not.
I know this.
About the foot fetish?
I don't know why that's a thing.
Why?
Okay.
Why does Quinton Tarantino have a foot thing?
Oh, he does.
Really?
Okay, just listen.
The part of your brain that controls your feet is right next to the part of your brain.
Straight, straight.
Oh, the part of your brain that controls your feet is right next to the part of your brain that makes you horny.
And sometimes people are born with it like broken connection.
Really?
Oh, my gosh.
Thank you for enlightening me.
That's why foot fetishes are so common.
Oh my gosh.
Wow.
That's so interesting.
I only have a large labia thing.
I don't even.
You've never sucked a tube?
You've never sucked feet?
That's so weird.
So weird!
Generally, I find it so odd.
It's getting very minor.
Yeah.
Okay.
You've got a lot of pressure points in your feet, though.
I do.
Okay, you've only dated two people.
You said the second one was the marriage.
You were married but divorced.
Yes.
Does he pay you alimony?
I'm not going to get into the details about my.
Oh, okay, cool.
Moving on then, Holly, your first boyfriend cheated on you.
You found out because he was a train station, although he wasn't from your area.
He was seeing the girl you sat next to in biology.
Your most recent ex is now with one of your good friends.
Yeah, that's one of the things.
Summer?
No.
Okay.
I would never.
Also, you watch gay porn.
Yeah, I do.
Like you watched heated rivalry.
Can we talk about it?
Why?
I don't know.
You love gay porn.
I just love gay porn, to be honest.
It's quiet.
Scoot into the table a little bit.
Bella's got a hobby.
She keeps quiet.
Wait, I'm trying to see.
Did we do all of Serenity's notes?
Bella has no notes.
Well, actually, I do have some from your previous thing, but off and on for three years, your boyfriend was DL Gay.
But we already talked about that.
Rapid-Fire Questions Coordination 00:04:30
I need to get up momentarily, but my good friend here, Alina, she has a series of questions for all of you.
And, oh, wait, but we have to do the selection.
Huh.
You know what?
Let's do this.
Can Alina take your seat for a few minutes if you want to just take a little breather, just so I can be at the table to kind of coordinate the rapid-fire questions.
Yeah, I didn't think about that.
All right, Alina rejoins us.
Alina, do you want to take that seat booster over there?
Yeah, just throw that in.
Guys, drop us a prime sub, like the video if you're enjoying the stream.
Join our Discord, blah, blah, blah.
Hashtag BigLabia Matter.
Has anybody here been vagina shamed?
Genitalia shamed?
Anybody?
Nobody.
Got a panel?
Okay.
All right.
Good talk.
All right.
Go ahead, Alina.
Name three countries besides the USA.
Mary, by the way, just because she's in this seat, we will do for, yeah, yeah.
Name three countries besides the USA.
Asia.
No, it's not.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I don't want anybody jumping in.
Don't help anybody.
Just let the person go ahead.
That was continent.
Sorry.
I'm just like saying countries.
Antarctica.
Yeah.
That's two.
One more.
London.
Yep.
Keep going.
England, I mean.
And hey, stop fingering your belly button.
What are you doing, Bella?
That's my belly rate.
Get your mind out of the gutter.
Jesus, I don't know what's going on.
She's got some weird belly buttons.
Bella, Bella be asking her on again off again person to be looking her belly button.
That's crazy.
And Scotland.
Scotland?
Okay, all right.
Name three countries.
France, Latvia, Ireland.
Beautiful.
Peru, Colombia.
Oh, Peru, Colombia, and America.
Besides the USA.
And Brazil.
You can't repeat, by the way.
Go ahead, Amy.
Hungary, Japan, Australia.
Beautiful.
Denmark, Italy, and Amsterdam.
Israel, France, China.
Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Jordan.
Palestine's not a country, sorry.
Yes.
Yes, it is.
It was just recognized as a country, actually, by Australia and many countries.
There we go.
It is a country.
Certainly is.
Iran, power, and China.
All right.
What?
Yeah.
Yeah, free palace.
Sorry, how many?
Yeah, absolutely.
Sorry.
How many continents are there?
And name one continent.
There's seven in Asia.
What else did you say?
Sorry, go ahead.
Seven in the United States?
Is that a continent?
Well, here, we'll just say it's seven, but name a continent.
Can't repeat.
Africa.
Australia.
Oh, yeah.
I actually don't know.
Guess, just guess.
Okay.
Did someone say Antarctica?
No, Antarctica.
North America.
Wait.
Am I allowed to repeat?
There's some South America.
That's it.
We said all of them.
Oh, okay.
What two countries border the USA?
Canada.
And Mexico?
Bella.
What she said.
I didn't pass the analogy.
Wait, repeat it.
Is that right?
I don't know.
Maybe, maybe not.
Bella, what two countries border the USA?
South America.
South America, Bella, what do you think?
What two countries border the USA?
No, sientos.
Don't de stada biblioteca.
Two Countries Bordering USA 00:12:55
I wish I knew I need one.
Senora, answer the question.
That's like French or something.
What'd you say?
South America and Canada.
Canadia!
Yeah.
How many states are in the US?
D. I'll point to the person.
What is the capital of the USA?
Why are you bullying me?
The capital of the USA.
Yeah, capital.
Damn, I hope she gets a record deal Washington, D.C. Hey, no help in this.
No, I just heard it in the wind.
It was the leaves.
It must have been the wind.
How many stars are on the U.S. flag?
Me?
Yeah.
52.
Sorry, say that again.
Isn't there 52?
52.
What do you think?
It's for the states, but wasn't there 52 states?
50.
52 states?
It used to be.
Used to be?
I'm not going to be able to do it.
Ask me about Israel.
I know everything, okay?
All right.
This one.
What century are we in?
Serenity.
The 21st.
How many is in one dozen?
12.
What year was the U.S. founded?
Going around the table.
1776.
Yeah, because of how 1776.
Okay, yeah.
Who did the U.S. gain its independence from?
Bella.
Oh.
Bro.
Bro.
You got this, Bella.
What about our beautiful friends over here?
I'm sure they would love to answer.
You got this, Bella.
Who did we get independence from?
Huh?
Get this girl a record deal, ASAP.
Genuinely, that's a good idea.
We can't be asking you.
Remember when we were doing the whole like smartness thing?
This is a very weak category for me.
Is there a do you have a different category you want to take a crack at?
How about name three Kardashians?
I saw your comments saying that one time.
I actually don't know either.
Name three K-pop groups.
Don't know.
Really?
Name three.
Name 10 rappers.
Eminem?
Yep.
Tupac?
Yep.
Biggie?
Yep.
Ice Cube.
Yep.
Keylick Lamar.
Drake?
And Cardi B.
I think that was two at the moment.
Hold on, keep going.
She got it.
You got this, by the way.
I'm thinking of someone, and I'm trying to remember their name.
So many.
I feel like Bella's into some crazy shit.
Like, we were talking about fee before.
I feel like she likes to tie dudes up and like dominate some shit.
I get that this weird vibe.
You ever get an intuition about somebody?
I feel like Bella, like, she takes these guys and just dominates.
Like, I don't know.
It's kind of interesting.
Maybe.
I'm just nice and ominous.
She's really awesome.
You never know.
She just wants to punch dudes during school.
I think you come across really sweet.
No, where is this from?
I mean, I kind of get the vibe.
You don't need to be smart when you're that pretty.
It's okay.
I feel like Serenity just like tries to use that.
After I found out he was gay, I was joking.
That was fully jokes.
I think with test takes.
Oh, lucky.
That's what I was thinking of.
I was thinking of lucky.
Okay.
Wait, did we get an answer to who did the U.S. gain its independence from?
Oh, come on.
I did a second question.
Serenity.
Oh.
Wait, why is it only us two?
I'm saying.
Maybe pick on other people.
You guys are the smartest.
I've answered so many questions already.
Okay, here.
What about you?
Who did, who did the U.S. Gainet from the U.S. Wait, wait, wait.
Who did the U.S. gain its independence from, from the...
From me?
England?
Yeah, there you go.
I think we prompted it too much then.
Oh, yeah.
Dang it.
I knew that anyway.
Definitely knew that.
Who was the first president of the U.S.?
Wait, repeat it one more time.
Who was the first president of the U.S.?
Me?
Yeah.
George Washington.
What country is the Great Wall of China in?
China.
We had to give Bella a W.
We had to give her a W. W Bella.
All right.
We got some.
This one.
How many inches in a foot?
12.
How many seasons are there?
Who have I not called?
You?
Four.
Into the mic if you can.
Four.
Okay.
How many days are in a year?
Bro.
I know it.
Wait, no, helping.
What the fuck?
124?
No, I'm so sorry.
That's Homeskill.
That's so funny.
I'm not going to lie.
I feel like we got a second guess.
Wait, wait, don't tell me.
I have no clue.
We have to investigate the calendar a little bit with our friend Summer here.
How many months?
How many months are there?
January, maybe, March, April, May, Jan, July, August, September, October, November, December.
And there's like 30.
How many days in the month typically?
Like 30?
It varies, but around 31.
12 times.
10 times 30.
You can kind of.
It's definitely not.
You said 30.
300.
Well, 324.
But it's 12 times 30.
Because there's 12 months.
I don't know.
That was Homeskill Pro.
300.
I thought the months back.
375.
There's a movie.
The movie.
You don't know the movie?
365.
365.
Oh, yeah, you guys helped.
Sorry.
I knew that.
Anyway, I'm not fake.
Hey.
What are you adding for?
Every time you're talking, you get so invested.
I love your eyes.
How many letters are in the alphabet?
Oh.
I don't know.
24.
20.
26.
26.
Sorry, I got confused.
Wait, no helping.
No, 26.
All right.
How many days of the week end with the letter Y?
Bella.
All of them?
See?
Okay, we're getting rid of some W's.
We're getting better.
I feel like we're like.
My thinker is starting to think better.
Get the scroll more skinny.
She operates better.
She operates better.
She literally says she would be so much better after she ate.
Yeah, she's right.
What is a shape with four sides called?
Square, rectangle.
How long does each president serve their term?
Can I answer?
Amy.
Four years.
Of course, she knows that.
I knew that.
I knew that.
If a dozen eggs cost $3, how much is each egg?
Wait, you skip some.
Oh, sorry, I just meant go.
I guess they can answer that.
Do you want to repeat it?
Yeah, can you repeat it?
If a dozen eggs cost $3, how much is each egg?
12 divided to 3.
25 cents?
What language do people in Idaho speak?
English?
Idaho.
American?
Idahoian.
Yep.
What ocean is California next to?
The Pacific Ocean.
What is half of 1 million?
500,000.
How many years are in a decade?
10.
How many years are in a century?
100.
100.
Oh, sorry.
I was waiting for that one.
What is the closest star to Earth?
Serenity.
The sun.
How many degrees are in a full rotation of a circle?
365, right?
300.
So close.
300, so close.
360.
60.
360.
What they're talking about.
Do that.
360.
Yeah, do it 360.
Sorry, can you find it?
What year was the war of 1812?
You have to wait until they're done talking.
What?
You're saying the year, though?
Do you know what year the war of 1812 started?
I don't know.
Hold on.
No?
No.
Take a guess.
1812.
Oh, okay.
There you go.
What country is the Panama Canal in?
It's in it.
Hey.
Panama.
No helping.
No helping.
Yeah.
Serenity.
He said it's in it.
In it.
How much?
Okay.
Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
You?
Pearl Harbor.
Here, wait.
We'll come back to this one.
Let's do a few of these.
How much is a quarter of an hour?
Five minutes.
Wait, that's not.
That's not.
Hold on.
You got this, Bella.
60.
Wait, what was the question?
Quarter of an hour.
Quarter of an hour.
Okay.
60 divided by 4.
Five.
Five.
Just kidding.
Four.
No, fine.
60 divided by four.
Yeah.
Guys, I'm under so much pressure.
Six.
Six?
Six?
Seven.
That is the answer.
No helping.
No helping anybody.
I just had to think.
What is 34 plus 66?
Serenity.
120.
Okay, Bella, what's your guess?
34 plus 66.
Okay, hold on.
Yeah.
Take your time.
No helping.
No helping.
Oh.
Wait, no.
You gotta wait.
No.
Hey, Serenity.
Look that way.
Go in the corner.
You're in timeout.
Wait.
Wait, what?
60 what?
34 plus 66.
Okay.
Quick math, guys.
Okay, is that?
What the?
She's gonna.
Okay, I guess we'll allow it.
She has a pen and paper there.
I already did it, so I'm blocking my answer.
Let's see if she knows how to do it.
I didn't know either.
I had to do what I would do.
I told you, girl, I didn't even know my times table.
I know my nines.
For some reason, nines are easy, but I don't know any of the others.
I'm also really bad.
What country did the Vietnam War take place?
Vietnam.
This one.
What is 7 plus 7 plus 7?
Why ask me?
21.
What is 3 times 3 plus 1?
10.
Yeah.
Let me think of bod mass.
Wait, can you scoot into this?
Let me think of bod mass.
Bodmas?
What is that?
Yeah, like if you have to plus it first, or if you times it first, and stands for brackets.
183, it's parentheses.
Yeah, yeah.
Brackets.
But then the words stands the other way around.
I don't fucking know.
Okay, you're right.
What is 7 minus 7 minus 7?
7 minus 7 minus 7.
Let's see.
I did it.
It's like 7.
Negative 7 or something like that.
What is 100 minus 66?
I did a quick.
Serenity.
34.
Yeah.
Yeah, 34.
We just did the.
What is 8 plus 8 plus 8?
24.
What is 3 times 3 times 3?
9.
Wait, nope.
Hold on.
That's not.
That's what?
You said something that is?
3 times 3 is 9.
Times 3.
Yeah.
18, 19, 22, 1, 2, 2, 3, 2, 4, 5, 2, 6, 2, 6.
7.
What is 9 plus 9 plus 9?
Yep.
27.
What is 100 minus 34?
66.
Damn.
It's ready for that.
Am I?
Are we scu?
Yes.
Can we do harder questions?
You knew these were coming harder, but I was like trying to prepare myself for the next one.
What is 9 minus 9 minus 9?
Wait, stop playing with that.
Just throw them to the table.
9 minus 9 minus 9.
Oh, got it.
Don't tell.
Got it.
Just brain math.
I've got it.
Nine minus nine minus nine.
Negative nine.
Yeah.
Is that true?
Yeah.
Why would you be like, yeah.
Go ahead.
If yes is spelled Y E S, then what does E Y E S spell?
Amy?
Eyes.
Come on.
Kind of trick you there.
If you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today?
Including my.
How Many World Wars? 00:02:33
Oh, wait.
10.
Yeah, thank you.
W.
I was really hoping you were.
Another W from Bella on the scoreboard.
She's smart.
Stop.
How many World Wars were there?
Two.
What decade was World War I?
Going around the table, everybody answers this.
The year?
The decade.
So you could say the 1850s, the 1930s.
The 1910s.
Okay.
1960s.
60s?
1920, 19 early.
Wait, one or two?
World War I.
Oh, 1910s.
1910s?
Same.
1960s?
You said?
Okay.
Well, I don't remember if it's one or two that was 19 early.
I mean, 30s.
You got this, Bella.
Early?
You got this.
You're going to kill this, Bella.
Get some pizza.
Get this girl some pizza.
Exactly.
Actually, don't.
Are you actually want more?
I could literally eat forever.
This girl should.
You should be a competitive eater.
I want.
Wait, can I take a second to tell this amazing story?
Is it actually going to be amazing?
It's going to be amazing.
All right.
Let's go.
This was a really great moment for me.
Okay.
Just as fast as I could.
You know, I said I lived in Rogue River, Oregon?
Yeah.
Middle of forest nowhere.
Traveled, found a lake, swam all day long.
Driving back, found a restaurant.
Kind of strange.
Middle of nowhere.
Weirdly crowded.
Must be great.
Walk inside.
Mexican restaurant.
Buy $40 burrito this big.
Ate the whole thing, got an applause.
Wow.
Amazing.
What the hell?
That was Mary who was.
That was amazing.
Decade of World War I?
1910.
Okay.
I'm just going to say 1910.
1914?
1910?
1914 to 18.
Sorry, a little louder.
Just a little bit.
You got to project your voice a little bit now.
It's just a little hard to hear you sometimes.
You know, it's just if you talked a little bit louder, it'd be nice.
It'd be like kind of nice if you did.
They have a black character swap, by the way.
Oh, yes, pull it off.
Little quick segue.
Or actually, while she's pulling that up, now you might be kind of bad.
What was the primary?
What was the primary decade of World War II?
Primary decade.
So what does primary mean?
30s?
Like 40s?
It was six years long.
Your answer?
1960?
Early 30s.
The 30s.
Okay.
I'd say 1960s.
1960s?
Okay.
1939 to 1945.
Axis Powers 1939-1945 00:02:50
I have no idea.
No idea.
1939 to 1945.
I'm Jewish.
I didn't know they said.
Do you have the decades?
Not the years.
I know the years, though.
Who is it again that we're gender?
Her black gender swab?
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's see it.
Oh!
He looks exactly like my neighbor.
Oh, my God.
Oh, wait, not in a weird way.
Guys, that was just strange.
He's home.
He's cute man.
Did you date him?
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, probably.
Okay.
Wait, but would you date the white version of you that we showed?
I think not.
No, that one he looks too baby girl.
I know.
Oh, it looks like baby.
To be honest, though, he kind of mogs the black one.
The melanated kind of mogs the shit out of him.
The black one's horrible.
I agree.
Tall, dark, and handsome.
What can I do?
All right.
Next one, Alina.
I think I need a slice of pizza.
Name three allied powers and three access powers.
Wait, hold on.
Let's let's make it go.
Hey, wait, wait, no.
One allied power, one access power.
Wait, what's that mean?
I don't even know what that was.
Okay, here, I'll give you one example you can't repeat.
So, the United States was an allied power, and Germany was an Axis power.
So, name, you can't repeat, but namely, I can't guess this.
Like, yeah, after World War II, who was allied on the U.S. side, and Axis was the oh, we're the commies anybody?
Um, Serenity.
Well, let's start over here, I guess.
Serenity of World War II, yeah, like who were the other countries?
See, I dropped out of a history freshman year.
It's okay, um, summer, summer, or who were the Irish?
Oh, wait, you're Scottish, what's that?
I'm Scottish, not Irish.
I do love Irish people.
Were the Scottish allied or Axis?
Wait, what?
Does Axis mean allies or no?
We weren't allies with Germany.
But you did say Access.
You did say that as Access, yes.
Access would be.
Well, I gave you one, Germany.
They were okay.
Well, not Scotland then.
Amy, you got something?
Japan was Axis.
Yeah.
And ally.
I'm going to go with the greatest ally, Israel.
I don't know if they were actually allied.
Bella Bellington.
That's your name now, by the way.
Bellington.
Fire.
It's a good name.
Thank you.
And that's Sarington.
Hey.
All right.
You guys can come up with it.
You're welcome.
I don't know the answer, Inkton.
Waiting for Marriage 00:03:07
Bella.
Throw out a country.
All right, guys.
Cuba.
Yes.
And one war.
And Mars.
Yes.
What?
Mars was involved in World War II.
But we all knew that.
We all knew that.
And that's why in that cartoon, Marvin the Martian?
He's got like a helmet, a military.
It's the concept.
Yeah.
It's the concept.
Oh, wait, question.
Is anybody here a virgin?
Anybody?
A lot of religious people in this room, but apparently no virgins.
Who's waiting until marriage?
Who's waiting until marriage?
Or a new creation in Christ.
So yes, you guys are married now, right?
So you know, we're engaged.
Oh, engaged.
That's right.
That's right.
Not married yet.
It's a family heirloom.
I don't care about a ring.
I don't care about a wedding.
I don't care about any of that shit.
I just want to see it.
It's just little diamonds.
Oh, it's fairly simple.
I just don't think that women, I think it's a red flag when a woman's like, I need this big, grand wedding.
I need a big diet.
Not about the size of it, but you do think that you need to get married, right?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
100%.
Yeah, yeah.
We're going to get married in like sometime between March and May, but we're going to like alert.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
But you're waiting until marriage, right?
From now, hopefully.
Question: Do you have a celebrity crush?
No.
No?
Maybe the guy from the summer turned pretty.
Because I was going to ask, would you break your rule for any guy?
Like it could be your celebrity crush.
Like you'd smash.
First of all, if he's not Jewish, so no.
Doesn't matter who it is.
I'm trying to think of like a hot, famous Jewish actor.
I can't even think of any.
Is there a hot Jewish guy that wait?
Madis Yahoo?
Is that the singer?
The singer.
He's not hot.
He's like 40.
I don't know.
That's the only Jewish person.
I think Jacob Lardi is Jewish.
When you smash?
Adam Sandler.
May God not put me in that kind of test.
But be so for real.
In reality?
Be so for real right now.
In reality, if I've done it with other guys, like.
Yeah.
So I guess, but I don't hopefully I won't.
But you, like, you would, if with Jacob Pilardi or whatever, you would, like, hit like, right?
If he was Jewish and how about this?
What if you can magically turn any celebrity into a Jewish person?
Would you smash then?
Like, I don't know.
What if they converted?
I really prefer not, but sometimes at the moment, you can't control yourself.
But you would, there is a guy you would smash, like, super quick.
No.
But maybe.
Super quick, no.
Hypothetical.
Three hours then.
Like, after you talked and cuddled for a little bit.
Two days.
Maybe.
Okay.
Let's go back to this trivia stuff.
I was really interested in it.
Oh, you're liking it?
I find it boring, to be honest.
A little bit of long bimbo clips.
Percent Guesses 00:03:22
Well, I'm bad at the math ones.
You want to know something funny, Brian?
I did the working it out, and I got the wrong answer.
Oh, shit.
Literally, I put 80, and she got it right.
She put 100.
You know, some people.
I'm not mathematically inclined.
All the other ones, I'm kind of, I'm okay.
I need to study up a little more on my American history to get a little bit of a business.
Bro, I could do like citizenship.
42 times 28.
Nice.
What is it?
I would have to do it.
Oh, like.
Oh, yeah.
I'm feeling like I could do like high.
I could do it.
No, not by scrolling.
so fast if I'm like looking at it I will be right back but we're Alina has some now rapid fire dating questions Okay, let's hear it.
All right, bet.
Let's do it.
Oh, you're fine.
Okay.
It's a good word.
What percentage of men do you think are over six feet tall?
I'd say probably like 40%.
36%.
Okay.
In the world?
Yeah, no.
60%.
Okay.
I think it's less than like 5% or 10%.
It's a small minority.
Damn.
Really?
Yeah, because think of it, like Asia is a continent, right?
And the majority of those men are very short, naturally.
Tallery.
And it's like the biggest continent.
Okay, I changed mine to 15%.
Yeah, I think it's 15%.
I really hope it's 26%.
I think it's 15%.
It is.
It is.
Pretty sure.
I love that you know.
Okay, random knowledge.
Do you know it?
I don't know.
Oh, I think it's like maybe under five.
I don't know, five.
Seven percent.
I think it is between five to ten, I'm pretty sure.
From like the female delusion calculator.
I was pretty sure.
Tall people need to start reproducing tall people.
Darn.
Americans are.
Okay, go.
All right.
What percentage of men do you think make at least one million dollars per year?
Oh, like 10%.
8%.
I was going to say that.
8%.
1%.
1 or 2%.
Yeah.
Okay, mate.
Okay, fuck that.
What was the question?
$20 checks.
I hate that we have to answer first.
We literally start from one brain.
What percentage of men do you think make at least $1 million per year?
Is it one to two percent?
Yeah, 1%.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
That's the top 1%.
One of them is my husband.
It's less than future.
I think less than one, honestly.
What percentage of men have yachts?
I'm hoping like a high.
No, probably a little bit more.
Probably like 5%.
Yeah, I'll say that it's under 1% because no way you have a yacht in your life.
No, not a yellow.
A yacht is not that expensive.
Like it is, but it's not like making a million dollars is more.
Like, probably I would have a year income for someone who's making $1 million.
But you're talking about a million dollars every year.
Okay, I've been like steady income.
Probably like five percent.
We're back.
I'm hoping it's at least two percent.
Shit.
Catch me on y'all.
Oh, careful of the breach.
All right, guys.
There's more.
Yeah, there's more.
Yeah, keep going.
Keeping going.
Um, less than one percent.
Less than one percent.
I forgot my mom.
Less Than 1% 00:04:05
You don't have the answers?
I wish we did.
Last time.
I've been without it for like two hours now.
I think less than one percent.
Oh, really?
Lena, can you scoot the tails?
Yes.
Be honest, do any of you keep a list of the people you've been with?
It's such a small number.
I don't really have to.
It's in the noggin.
Same.
Same.
Like a physical list?
No, I've never done that.
No.
I do in my notes.
But like kisses.
Oh, kisses.
Like makeouts, whatever.
Because there was a while that I was just saving for marriage, so there was more to it, but not like sex.
No.
Really?
I'm the only one?
No, we did.
Have I had a kiss list?
Kisses is cute.
Not just kiss, like makeout.
Okay, wow.
Get in there.
You're making it before you get it.
You're crazy, girl.
You're just wild.
My goodness.
Can't take this question.
My bad.
No, really, you're not supposed to.
Oh, really?
Not supposed to touch even.
Ooh.
Okay.
Do you have a roster?
It's the Old Testament.
No.
Nope.
Nope.
Clarify roster.
Girl, you're bad.
Bro, I'm Israeli.
I speak Hebrew.
English is like my second language.
Yeah, the same.
I know it doesn't sound it because I don't have such a roster means multiple men.
I think a roster is talking to multiple men, people you see as genuine options.
No?
It's your turn now.
Yeah, I said no.
Are you talking to multiple people that you're interested in?
What is talking?
Just like I guess.
Well, the sort.
But I'm not showing any real interest.
How big is your roster?
I don't know.
Like, how many people?
Single digits.
It's not such a big deal.
Double digits.
You guys are not talking to a few guys, don't lie.
No.
I'm genuinely not talking about it.
Not on my own.
I got friends, but it's not like they're interested in them.
Yeah.
Focused on my career.
Okay.
I just have the one.
No.
She's married.
Having so much fun with these questions.
My energy just like responds.
Have you ever slept with someone the same day you met them?
Yeah.
It's okay, baby.
Wait, no.
No, actually, no.
It was the next day.
No, I had to think about that one.
But no, it was the next day.
Next.
Yeah.
One guy.
Nope.
No, I am.
Yep.
No.
Are you?
How quick was it?
How many hours after you met?
Like six hours.
Okay.
Went to the beach.
Oh.
I know.
Has anyone ever had a threesome?
No.
We want to hear.
Ew.
How many?
Huh?
How many?
How many threesomes have I had?
One.
With guys or a girl and a guy?
One girl.
One guy.
Oh, because your body's head.
Yeah.
Okay.
Cool, okay.
No.
Anyone else threesomes?
No.
Has anyone had a ho-phase?
Be honest.
I actually haven't, and I always like preaches to my friends.
I've never had one.
I don't think I have, to be fair.
Nope.
Yes.
At you, Nan.
I wouldn't say like whole phase of like sex, but like making out a lot, I guess.
Yeah, you're not.
I'm not.
Sinner.
Really sad.
I mean, I do only fans, so that's a whole face for you?
I mean, she likes to call us so whole face.
You're currently me.
No, not you.
Not you.
We're over there, so I guess you could call this my whole face.
Yeah.
Okay.
Are you sleeping with multiple men?
Oh, I cannot.
It's okay if you are.
Why We Call Each Other Fat 00:13:55
I don't care.
I feel like if you're sexually stimulating multiple men, you're a hoe.
Do you plan to get out of the whole phase?
No.
So it's just the whole life.
It's not a face.
It's just the lifestyle.
Whole life.
Just love the king.
You can't make a hoe into a housewife, as some wise person once observed.
Damn.
I missed it.
You're a housewife.
Housewife?
And a hoe.
She doesn't kid.
I'm just a hoe.
She's not married to me.
I'm just a hoe.
Hey, don't say that about yourself.
I mean, it's just a matter of time.
I mean, it's not affecting me, so I'm okay.
It's not your place to say it, I feel.
I mean, it's a dating show, so yeah, we can say whatever we want.
It's our job to make like observations on here.
And specifically, they bring on OnlyFans girls and then other girls who they can have these adversarial conversations.
Right, yeah, conservative and against it, but I wouldn't, it's not my place to call someone else a hoe.
I think that, like I said, it's my opinion that we need to bring back shame because if we bring back shame, then people will correct their behavior.
You think they're going to correct their behavior because you're calling them a hoe?
If enough people in society begin cough and shame, then yes.
I know.
I think we should fat shame.
I think we should hurry shame.
I think that we should bring fat shame.
Shame.
Shouldn't we skip?
You said fat shame, right?
Yeah, I think we should have skinny shame then?
Oh, I'm so sorry.
Anorexia, shame, eating shame.
Any sort of shame.
To my taste, people won't get better from shame.
That's not good.
I think even so, it's toxic.
We need to bring back shame.
Men shame each other all the time.
Men constantly call each other out on their behavior and hold each other to a high standard.
Women are so emotional.
Oh, she's so mean, blah, blah, blah.
If I developed eating disorders because of the emotional shame.
No, I think you should get into the gym, which you are.
I am.
You still have to deal with 24-7 mentally.
Did you deal with bullying?
Like, about your weight?
And look, now you've lost 60 pounds.
I'm sure I think some of it may have contributed.
That happened when I was very young.
Okay, and things say with you when you're very young.
What happens to you when you're young shapes you?
Yes.
If you've lost 60 pounds, then yes.
No, you think it was good that I was bullied.
I think we should bring back bullying, yes.
And what if I starve myself for days?
That's not the right way to go about it.
You should healthy way.
Sometimes you develop eating disorders because of these kind of things.
It's not something that's normal.
You should lose weight in a healthy way, not because people are shaming on you.
You remove bullying.
I think it would be better if people were to, for example, sit down and have a constructive conversation with you.
But I feel like people don't often do that, though.
So I think in general, had more shame.
Men are shameful.
What if I start shaming you on your hair?
That's okay.
Bro, you're not supposed to shame other people.
You could talk about it.
You could say how you can get better.
And that's what you're saying.
I'm not sure.
I was bullied my whole life and did nothing good for me.
I mean, listen, I think it's hard.
It's a different than in school.
For example, I'm bullying.
You're thinking of promoting better things to be better for yourself.
The reason I lost.
You can't always deliver those things in like a kind way, to be honest.
The reason I lost 60 pounds is not because I was bullied.
Well, it's for myself.
If you're hair-based, I would kill myself.
I'd be like, Cape Brook, how?
Because I know that.
What?
Well, I'll say what you just said.
Oh, I said, as like a little example, if your hair looked bad, you're my friend.
I wouldn't come up to you and start shaming you for it and bullying you for it.
I would come up to you and be like, you come and talk about it.
Fix it for you.
No, that's a screen.
Calling people nicknames, like if you're gonna call me fat, you're just gonna be like, oh, you're a fat.
So just like you're calling her a hoe.
I feel like society in general.
Yeah.
I mean, you're working on it, which is good.
But yeah, this is not your plan.
Listen, when men get fat, other men tell them, hey, you're getting fucking fat.
You need to get your fat.
I was fat my whole life.
I don't need anyone to tell me.
Fuck.
I know, right?
If there was more shame around it, they wouldn't be.
That's my fucking point.
Okay, but what if it's a possible void that in real world?
It's what if it's genetic?
Oh, but isn't shame against that?
I mean, people will tell you, like, you fat, you this.
It's impossible to live.
When everybody does tolerate, you know what I find in.
I don't think people are going to be able to do that.
In real world, they're really going to be rough.
Well, what is it?
God tries to judge you favorably.
You should also judge other people.
Okay, can I say something?
I find it really, really crazy to fathom the fact that, no offense, like you don't look like someone who works out and you're like, bully other girls for their bodies and stuff like that.
No, not you.
I mean, I'm healthy.
That's what matters.
You're healthy, but like, do you have the ideal figure to be speaking like that?
When was the last time you went to the gym?
Literally, like three days ago at the Hampton.
How much did you do?
That's where I'm staying.
I work out in four five days per week.
I definitely went through a period when I was working really hard and that's why I went independent so I could have a little bit more work.
Isn't shame and bullying against Bible and your religion?
No, no, listen.
Bible costs are not a bad person.
Not all of you love die.
Neighbor.
But that doesn't mean to allow other people to continuously make poor decisions.
Sometimes you're not going to be able to do excuses.
I feel like when you, here's the thing.
Have you guys heard of enabling?
People have, again, this toxic empathy where they'd rather say, oh, girl, you look so big.
You don't need to lose weight.
Healthy at any size.
Do you guys remember that magazine?
Do you guys remember that magazine cover of the super fat bitch who was on it and it literally said healthy at any size?
Girl, children.
This is normalized.
And she died.
There's whole cultures where guys literally like pay women to eat and stuff like that.
Back in the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s.
When that was shame, and then I lose it.
Hey, guys, guys, guys.
Can I answer her a minute?
Hold on, let me interject here briefly.
And then you guys can get it.
We'll get into it now.
We'll get into it now.
Look, ultimately, you know, I think I, you know, I don't know if I agree with Amy to the extent, like, I don't know how severe the bullying should be, but I think the enabling is terrible.
Yeah.
Look, I think, look, I get, guys, she's got a great point about men communicate a bit differently.
Like, yeah, your guy friends are going to tell you what's up.
Guys are not going to pull punches.
Yeah, and honestly, I feel like the chat's been a little nice to me tonight.
They haven't called me quite as, you know, I've only been called fat like a hundred times.
I was hoping it was closer to a thousand.
But look, I think you get to a point, though, where women will overcorrect.
And it's not just, look, I think you can be polite to people, but it gets to a point, it's not just, it's not just we should shame them.
It goes into the enabling.
So it's like, oh, you're so beautiful, slay queen.
You look at like some really obese woman's Instagram comments, all the girls, all her friends, oh my God, I wish I looked like you.
You're so beautiful.
Blah, blah, blah.
And then they're like, fuck this fat bitch.
Like, that's not crazy.
I disagree with that.
You shouldn't, for sure, you shouldn't encourage her to stay overweight, but it's not her place.
Especially also if it's a friend, maybe it's different.
If you sit down with her and talk with her.
But people that you just met, it's not your place to come and judge them.
I don't say it to people like just met.
I don't just go up to people.
It's a podcast where the point is to give opinions.
But in everyday life, no one asks people and say you're a whore.
No, it's true.
She didn't ask Prime.
What's the purpose of this podcast?
It's to have, like he said, adversarial conversations.
You don't have to call her names.
You shouldn't call her a hoe.
It's not your place.
I think EarlyFans girls are whores, not just her.
I'm not singling her out.
I think all only, as long as they don't mean, oh, thank you.
Yeah.
Bella has something to say.
You said to bring back shame, bring back bullying, and all of those things combined, but that is literally a sin in your religion.
So if you can excuse a sin for one of your ideologies, then her sin could also be excuse me.
Wait, really quick.
The Russian girl, I feel like in Russia, it's socially unacceptable to be overweight.
I've heard this from Russian women.
What are your thoughts there?
Yeah, that's true.
And I think people, women in America and people in general, they just so care about each other's feelings.
Like they're afraid to hurt each other's feelings.
I agree with that, by the way.
If I was in Russia, would a bunch of Russian women be like, how do you say fat in Russian?
No, you wouldn't consider fat in Russia because you're a man and men in Russia can look whatever.
Females are still going to compete with each other for their children.
And listen, the Bible calls for righteous judgment.
Like, Jesus got pissed off too.
When they said he was flipping over tables, they don't mean backflips, okay?
He was calling people out on their sins.
Girl, I agree with the things you're saying, but there's a way to say it.
Not by encouraging bullying and saying, yeah, you should shoot.
Actually, hold on, you're enabling bullying.
Yeah.
Whoa, fuck.
Listen.
Listen, Israel, I do understand your point, okay?
But I'm not, I don't, no, what?
What?
I forget your name.
I told you that I'm not walking up to people in real life.
I'm not walking up to people in real life who I just met and saying, hey, Baptist.
No, it's because I'm on a podcast and we're here to give opinions.
I'm going to give my uncomfortable opinion.
Sorry if it offends you.
But you said that you should bully.
You said, oh, you're happy that I was bullied in my childhood because now I lost a kid.
You're friends.
It's not because of that.
It's like the social shame in general.
It's the social disposition to people in general.
Like, if you go back to the 20s and 30s and 40s, it was not socially acceptable to be obese.
It was not socially acceptable.
I was born.
Not because I was illegal.
Guys, not because it was illegal.
But you were born obese.
I was born fat.
I could show you a picture of me as a baby.
I was born fat.
It's genetic.
I'm like a tan baby.
I was fuck.
Okay, I'll show you a picture.
I'm sure it's not the same.
And as a child, I always grew up like that.
I had rolls all over my body as a baby.
And now I work out.
I can't believe we're talking about babies.
Girl, I work out more often than any girl I know.
I eat less than probably everyone here.
I congratulate you on the date.
I said congratulations, but you said you lost 60 pounds.
Okay, but I'm saying it's not, you shouldn't.
You eat less than everyone here, yes.
I probably eat more than all y'all.
I mean, she didn't eat any pizza, so that's good.
Do you want to hear?
I fasted from Tuesday till Friday.
I only had a coffee.
I kind of wish I got shamed a little bit.
In fact, every single one of you.
Honestly, my feet are like, you see how crazy that is?
Like, that's what's going to give you a little bit of a bad thing.
You know what?
Serenity, I feel, you know, you.
Do you feel better?
No, you look good, and you can look even better.
The Pillsbury dough, boy, go ahead.
Oh, this is going to love us.
This feels like this is like a kinky.
No, I'm just saying, I feel like I should be shamed a bit because I need to lose some weight.
I brought it up as soon as you can.
You should need other people.
I was bullying Brian, not just everyone at this table.
Should I start thinking about your body?
You can, girl.
And literally, that's one of the motivations behind me eating more and getting into the gym.
It's the lens that you choose to look at things.
It's sad that you need statistics, but you should do things for yourself.
Help yourself because people are sad.
But a lot of people don't have that type of self-ambition.
And that's the same thing.
You know what I mean?
To learn and grow.
Other people need to hold them accountable.
It's not healthy.
You need bad motivation for you to listen.
I'm not putting my kids into school because of bullying.
Oh, but everybody's speaking over each other.
I need to raise my voice.
So you're contradicting yourself.
I'm going to take my face away.
Look, I want to be shamed right now.
I want everybody to see me online.
Sounds like a good time to be able to.
No, you look good now, and you can look even better if you lose.
Call me a fat cell.
Go ahead.
No.
Elika.
Let's do it.
I'm not into it.
You're getting into it.
You're like, please call me a fat pet.
I'm not into degradation.
I mean, you should only do it on things that people can change and improve on.
Not like their immutable characteristics.
Like, I'm not going to go up to a disabled person and be like, you retolge anymore.
Like, I'm not going to do that.
It should be on the table.
I have some pre-show notes from everybody.
We're going to get into some of those.
If you don't believe that I ate less than everyone here?
Just because I'm overweight?
You're not that much.
I mean, she didn't eat pizza.
I don't know.
I'm not going to get a third slice.
I don't know how I would prove it.
I don't know how I would prove it, but I'm willing to bet Serenity calorie for calorie.
Oh, no, I can eat more.
Trust.
She's youngster.
Metabolism is crying.
My metabolism is not.
I can tell you, I could fast for days.
I did water fasting many times.
From Tuesday till Friday, I only had a coffee.
It's not bad.
And today I only had a coffee, so I probably didn't even eat today.
You should eat.
It's not good for your body to not eat.
That is coming from my eating disorders that I'm also dealing with, but that is from the bowling.
Okay, now I'm not going to be able to do that.
I kind of think I need an eating disorder, to be honest.
And that's so bad.
Thank you, Serenity.
Trying to leave like crazy to eat.
I will be honest.
It is working.
It is working for me, but water fast never helped me lose weight.
I never lose weight.
I do that.
Water fasting.
One at a time.
I just don't eat.
It doesn't work.
Guys, it works.
It does work.
Guys, just don't come back.
Shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up.
One at a time.
You guys, look, here in person, we can sort of parse each other's convo when multiple people are talking at the same time, even though it's really difficult.
The viewers definitely can't understand anything if there's like two, three, four, five people talking at the same time.
Serenity, you wanted to insult me?
What is this?
Oh, no, but like definitely hit the gym.
But basically, if you're only drinking water from most of the days, you're going to gain more weight than eating regular three meals a day.
What if I'm telling you that I lost a fact that I'm losing?
But you need fuel for your body to work out too.
Nobody fucking has.
You could go hotter in the gym if you should.
I have a bit of fuel.
I go to the gym and I fast.
You should.
Fasting is different.
Intermittent fasting.
I do that too.
That's good.
I also do everything.
That's good.
But you shouldn't just be running on just coffee and working out.
It is January.
Probably.
My body needs to.
So UV is too.
I'm not getting the tanning.
Multiple Voices Confuse 00:13:36
You can convert it.
I can't hear.
I actually did.
What did I tell them for you?
Wait, guys, guys, guys, only one person can be speaking at a time.
It's fucking up the audio way too bad.
One person, if one person's speaking, just everybody else speaks to me.
That's what I like about Santa Barbara.
Give me tan in January.
I love that for you.
Thank you.
Serenity.
Or here, I have a few more from the rabbit fire.
I'll just blast out here.
Let's see.
Are men the problem?
No, I think it's equal.
And what?
Yes or no?
Just on general?
Do men suck?
No.
Sometimes.
No.
It depends if they're into it.
That was so funny.
Oh my God.
I love that.
Are men trash?
No.
Some candy.
Anybody?
No.
No, some people.
Let's see here.
If you could snap your finger and all men were sent to an island.
I was going to say disappear.
I want to do that.
I wouldn't do that.
No, we need men.
No.
What if you were lesbian?
Still wouldn't.
Still wouldn't.
What if you could reproduce without men?
Who's going to build houses?
Who wants to cook?
Who's going to cut them?
I mean, women can buy cats.
Men can stay.
Women can build houses.
We need guys and we need women.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
You lay out the blue.
Yeah.
I will pay you.
Can I get an update on the topic of dead ass?
If you can build a house within a year, can I help with other girls?
Just kidding.
No.
I don't have a million dollars.
So, anyways, oh, how about this?
Oh, Bella, if you could snap your finger and all men were sent to some other island or something, and women could like reproduce asexually or lesbianly.
That's definitely a word.
Would you do it?
No.
No.
Okay.
Most of my best friends are guys.
Same.
Same.
I love that for you, Bella.
Is it gay for a man to date a trans woman?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, the dick.
Yeah.
Post-op.
Isn't it called like Not gay It's pants fiction Yeah, I was about to say, isn't it called pansexual?
It's definitely queer.
It is in the case of the technically.
It's the Q in LGBTQ.
It's not straight, but it's something else.
It's a different category.
It's straight.
Straight?
Is it straight?
Okay.
Or.
I think pansexual is you're not like sexual at all, actually.
No, that's asexual.
No, no, no, but you're into like someone's personality.
No, that's asexual.
Asexual means you don't have, like, you don't want to do anything sexual, but you're like, you know what I mean?
Pansexual.
Pansexual is when you're into anybody.
It doesn't matter, trans, bi.
How is that possible for someone not to want to do anything sexual?
So I know the shit.
I don't know.
There was someone here, right?
A woman's Charlie's favorite question.
Somebody with mattress.
The XY chromosome?
Me?
A woman's.
She's a woman.
A woman is okay.
She's a woman.
Someone who can bear childhood.
Someone who can have a child.
When there's women who can't have children, there it's an adult.
Hey, somewhere.
Oh, wait, no, that's a great point.
I take that back.
XY chromosome is a woman.
Go ahead, Amy.
Adult human female.
Okay.
What about you?
XY chromosome.
Okay.
Vagina.
Vagina.
I believe women.
Does that include transposing females?
No.
Okay.
It's XX chromosome for women, right?
It is.
XY.
Only men can produce Y. Wait.
Whoops.
XX.
XM is.
Oh, is it XX?
It is XX.
You guys know.
Sorry.
XX.
I knew what you guys were saying.
I'm the only one.
Adult female.
How about you?
Adult female with cerux, I guess.
Okay.
With surgery?
Essentially, XX.
What do you think about white people?
Oh, let's go.
Of all pops.
They're fan.
Here.
Awesome.
I prefer Caribbean man.
Oh, are we talking about men or in general?
People are people.
Do you think all people are inherently racist?
Who?
Yes.
White people.
White people are inherently fancy.
Yes.
are all people how about this are all people Mostly white people are the conservative people.
Okay.
That's conservative.
Sometimes are all people there's a majority of conservatives that are racist and like Are all people inherently racist?
No.
But are white?
Okay, well, we don't have time to say that.
Low-key in a sense.
Low-key.
Low-key.
High-key.
Low-key, bro.
It's low-key.
Type shit.
Yeah.
Don't trip.
Don't trip.
Don't trip to women.
What are the other fucking gens?
I gotta Google that shit.
Do you guys think that's sexist for a woman to take, or at least the expectation of it, anyways, for the woman to take a husband's last name and or for the children to take the man's last name?
Is it sexist?
Yes, it's sexist.
No, no, it's not.
Oh, okay.
No.
No?
Anybody?
Okay.
You're about to talk about a woman's lost name.
That's wild.
Bitch man.
Do you think I, Brian, am a misogynist?
Yes.
You can be.
Can be.
Probably.
In general, though.
Bella.
What does that mean?
But george?
Like a woman hates.
Misogynist.
Like sexist.
So somebody who has prejudice or who hates women.
I don't think you hate, but you have a little bit different prejudice.
A little pretty much.
I think it's different.
You're low-key.
A little bit better.
Low-key.
I'm misogynist.
Loki is like kind of sort of to bow down for you.
To what?
Bow down for you is crazy.
That's not crazy.
That wouldn't make me a misogynist.
I think he's also kind of memeing a little bit on that.
But I think you're a realist, but you just get more opportunity to espouse your opinions.
Sorry, because of the show.
Yes, that is true.
So you think I'm a misogynist?
Serene?
Low-key.
Serene.
I said you can be.
Let's define our terms.
How do you define misogyny?
Somebody who dislikes women.
I don't dislike women.
I love women.
Women are great.
They do my laundry on the first time.
Bingo.
Wait, why is that misogynist?
Because it's what they do for you.
But think about this, right?
Remember?
We talked about this for so long.
I know.
Oh my gosh.
Low-key.
We high-key.
Okay, talking like a hundred.
Let me just vibe.
Let me just vibe.
Okay, that's fine.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Type shifts.
Stop talking like all of them together.
You're just mixing all of them.
Yeah, what are some of the other go-to's?
I don't know.
I think, look, when women say, I think a lot of women want a guy to be willing to die for them.
This again.
I agree.
Do you want to die?
What's going on?
Hey, summer, calm down.
Okay.
I don't expect.
I think that would go there.
Turn me out.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Okay, calm down.
I think if I just want a woman to cook and clean and do my laundry and, you know, do the bow.
Y'all women want men to die for you.
Y'all women?
Is there anything more abhorrent and sexist?
One thing, also, why are you playing us?
These women?
We never said that.
I never said that.
We don't want you to die.
I'm not Italian, but I'm not.
I never said that.
None of us said that.
Hey, die.
Y'all women.
He died.
But Arthur Luther King John.
I'm convinced that y'all women would take an issue with a man who is not willing to sacrifice for you.
Because who sacrificed?
When you're in a relationship, you're supposed to give to the other.
So even if it's giving your life, for both sides, I don't think that guy's supposed to have her life for me.
Right.
Both.
But I don't have to do it in reverse.
That's crazy.
Like, in fact, what I would do, like, even who's the smallest.
You would throw her in front of a bullet.
I am.
Well, I have to pump.
I'm 4'11.
I mean, you're, you know.
Oh, yeah.
She's 4'11.
I'd probably say I'm 11.
Okay, so like in a hypothetical scenario where I was like, if I was dating Serenity, I like the scenario.
Ew, disgusting, right?
So she's got a nose ring, never would happen.
So if I was dating her, I would use her as a meat shield, even though she's small.
Whoa.
I would use her to protect me from the bullets.
You're joking, right?
You're joking.
I don't believe that.
And I don't believe that.
There's no way you're saying that.
You're joking.
I feel in danger.
I would be like, yeah, I would use, I'd be like hiding behind someone's life.
And then you'll live your life like it's fine.
There's not much to hide behind.
You're going to get shot.
Old enough.
She's not left her life.
You've had your years.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Old man.
So selfish.
Yeah, you're so just like.
I'm trying to.
Lamard left her life.
You've left.
You're hella.
Look, here's what I'm.
Look, are you saying, what are you saying?
What are you saying?
I'm saying you have left your life.
Also, you're going to be killed.
What if they're the same age?
It's not about the age.
Hypothetically, wait.
Hypothetically.
But realistically, he's going to get shot either way because the body is.
It's going to go right back.
Yeah, not much to hide behind.
Well, let's just say.
I'm a dog, you're like, boop.
Matrix.
Shot.
Let's just say whatever kind of bullets they're using.
They can only let people.
Is their aim good?
Can they get fast moving?
It is a woman who's shooting, so I don't know about that.
So what?
So, huh?
What was that?
I beg your pardon?
No.
Why do you keep.
I'm just using as a scenario.
Look, here, you want another scenario?
Look, you know?
I just want a harem full of women.
And look, I want to take care of everything.
If it was, you know, I would just.
Can you lift the shirt up?
I guess my producer is saying your titties are.
You're not even half ass.
Yeah, it is what it is.
It is what it is.
I'm just saying, look, we gotta, I need to have like 10 sons, right?
So I think I need multiple only sons, no daughters?
Well, I mean, we can have a couple daughters, but like, hopefully, you know, we have gay sons.
I was going to say, prefer a gay son or a thought daughter.
That's a tough one.
Gay son.
Gay son.
Thought daughter.
I think I take a girl.
What?
Gay sons are doing so much emotional damage.
We'll pay your rent.
Thought Dora, pay your rent.
I'm good financially.
I'm good.
Look, anyways, I don't know where I'm going with that other thing.
Let's see here.
What is that?
Oh, do you think it's drugs?
You should take it.
You'd be more entertaining.
Do you think Trump is a fascist?
I think he's orange.
That is a good color analysis there.
Do you think he's a fascist, though?
I think he's orange.
Are you orange?
No.
Are you... I would...
You know what?
I would want to recommend Trump a better tanning regimen.
For real, yeah.
Do you think he's a fascist?
I'm not saying anything while some, because I could forget the airport.
Oh, my God.
They're not going to deploy.
They're looking for social medias and stuff.
No, they don't.
That's bullshit.
I don't care if you criticize Israel.
It's true.
Damn.
It's starting to fight.
I'm just saying, I'm stating facts.
They only care if you criticize Israel That's the main thing that's true.
It's not true.
And it's.
No, anti-Semitism was being pushing to be paused here in the United States.
do this uh make apparently i saw something online that women are not capable of making machine gun noises uh Make a machine gun noise.
Wait, what?
Yep, good.
That's good.
Thank you.
Oh, that's good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's good.
I can't do it.
Oh, come on.
You have to be able to roll your arms.
Okay, go ahead.
Into the mic.
You guys are really.
I have no clue.
I don't know either.
Really?
Is it a flex to know how to do it?
Ryan, do it.
Because last time you did it.
Oh, that was bad, bro.
That was bad.
That was bad.
That's good.
No, that's a ja-jit-j-j-j-dj-j-j-d-j-d-d-j-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-do.
You're missing the rapids.
You really dresses better.
Okay.
Your machine gun.
I think Bella won.
Oh, question.
Should women split the bill if she's on her period?
What?
I don't really know.
Oh, because then he's not getting sex.
Oh, okay.
That's crazy.
No.
Crazy work.
Perfect.
Perfect man.
Hey, Serenity.
Perfect man for life.
Hey, Bella, quiet.
This is important.
Okay.
Probably tonight.
Okay.
Perfect man for life or perfect career for life.
Oh.
This is tough.
Perfect man.
I need a good man for my children.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You got to pick one.
Ma?
Maybe?
Okay, Bella.
Perfect career.
Yikes.
Feminism has really got a lot of money.
Obviously.
I can find my perfect man after I have my singing career.
True that's not.
Unlikely, but that's not fun.
By the way, a perfect man doesn't exist.
Oh.
Perfect career does.
My man.
Perfect man.
Yeah.
Man, even though I would want a perfect career, but yeah.
Okay.
Career.
Career.
You know, there are vowels and this is not my first language.
It's like my fifth language.
You're trying to risk broken.
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You're just making gut world noise.
You're so mean.
It's not true.
Well, hey, perfect men.
I mean, I don't have to deal with it.
So I don't have to deal with you afterwards, so it's whatever.
You can make all the fun you want.
Well, yeah, of course.
I don't understand.
I don't even understand the conversation.
So, are we not allowed to conversate?
No, but just I don't even think anybody could even have under even if they foreign Bangladeshi would have understood what just came out of your mouth.
Like, it was just like guttural.
What are you saying?
Like, this is not making sense right now.
You got to enunciate a little bit.
You got to use the best.
She's trying her best.
She's fluent in English.
She's just.
She's just shy.
Yeah, she's shy.
What's up?
Let's judge very rurally.
Okay, what's the.
Hey.
No.
We're close to the end here.
Okay.
How about this?
Hmm.
I had a good question, but it disappeared.
I forgot.
Oh, there was a chat that came in.
Let me get that.
Mary, could you pull up that super chat and then can I have Bella?
Can you read this?
Yes.
Thank you.
Also, their communist teachers in schools don't teach the mental and physical self-defense skills per want them bullied.
Commies, teachers actually teach violence and to riot.
Commies also teach them suicidal violence, even when they, as hypocrites, also teach zero-tolerance violence policy.
What is he talking about?
I don't know.
Thank you for the soup chat, man.
I do appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay.
Wait, can I have you just take that paper towel, just put it on the ground?
It's fine.
We'll pick it up later.
You can just.
Yep.
Could you put that pocketed or something?
All right.
Thank you for your soup chat.
Very much appreciated.
Let me see here.
I'm waiting for Serenity to return so we can.
Wait, is she in the bathroom?
Yes.
Do you want to just sit in her chair while we're waiting?
We have Alina joining us here at the table while we're waiting to get to this chat.
I'm going to wait until everybody's here.
Let me do some of the pre-show notes here.
Wait.
Wait, are you Christian?
I am Catholic.
Hold up.
Oh, bro.
No.
Did we talk about this last show?
We've spoken of it last year.
Okay, we'll do a 30-second recap.
You're a sex worker.
I am.
You have to.
You can't take the Christian label.
I can't.
Like, don't call yourself Christian.
That's ridiculous.
I can.
You can.
I am.
I go to church.
I go to Mass every Sunday.
I'm a vegan, but I eat hot dogs.
I'm also a vegan.
I'm a vegan, but I eat hot dogs.
Am I a vegan?
But that's got nothing to do with it.
It's totally related to that.
And I'm pretty sure prostitution goes against Christianity.
Mayor Madeline is a little bit more than a little bit of a child.
Alina's fucking height mogging the shit out of you right now.
Height.
Oh, shit.
You are tall.
She's like a head taller.
She's a head taller than you.
She's very tall.
Hey, this is a good angle for you, Alina.
Maybe I should say that.
She's really gorgeous.
Yeah.
Take that as you.
Anyway.
Okay, we're not going to get into that.
No, we've already spoke about it.
Catholic sex worker is famous.
It makes zero sense.
Fine.
You said you don't think God cares if you take pictures or videos of yourself.
No.
Oh, well, these are just the notes from the previous show.
Yeah, we've been through this.
We've been through it.
Here, I'll come back to some of that, but let me get everybody else's notes here.
Okay.
Shiva?
Sheva?
Okay, I think we hit a lot of your notes here.
You said you went out with your brother's best friend for a while until you found out and then you got beat up.
You like beat up?
Yeah, physically had black and blue marks.
By a boy.
By my brother.
Oh, okay, yeah.
Yeah, no.
Basically, I went out with his best friend.
Like, I live here, so I went to Israel for a month and he was there.
His friend was over.
I didn't know that they were that close friends.
We started going out, and one day I was high, and I came back with hickeys, and he beat the shit out of me.
Good girl, yeah.
I am a good girl.
What?
What?
What was that?
I'm not sure.
I'm joking.
I wasn't hot.
How do you say it?
Like, drunk.
But, anyways, so they he saw it, and then I'm still blocked by him.
By your brother.
Let's see.
I have some notes for Bella.
Men being weak.
Yes.
You said men being weak is a huge turn off in regards to protecting you.
This is from your previous show.
Did I really?
You got punched by a dude once, but we talked about that last time.
You said dating doesn't always need to be to marry.
You should enjoy your younger years.
Okay.
You're a huge believer in everything happens for a reason no matter what.
Yep.
That's interesting.
Positive.
Even like cancer and children.
Remember when we talked about that last time, and I was saying that everything happens for a reason no matter what to my own life specifically.
Oh, I see.
Take everything with a grain of salt.
You said hookup culture is fine as long as you own it.
That's true.
That's that.
What do you mean, as long as you own it?
Like if person A just wants to fuck and person B also just wants to fuck and this person knows and this person knows and they're both consenting adults, then why not stop?
Do you think it's right?
Girl, I'm healthy.
You can't really be too.
To me, yeah, you're a bad girl.
To me, okay, to me, you're telling me I'm a bad girl.
Answer every single question with one singular statement, and that's literally mind your business.
That's it.
You want to be want to wait for whip marriage and you want to follow your religion and do your thing?
I'll mind your business.
She wants to do her thing, I'll mind your business.
Okay.
Oh, really quick.
So you guys all saw the bow video going around the table.
Just a quick answer, yes or no.
Would you bow for a man?
That's a joke.
No, not for real.
For realsies.
No.
Okay, what about you?
Yeah, I would.
Yep.
Bellington?
Schmidt.
The current guy that you're seeing.
If he was your boyfriend.
Yeah.
Okay, that's a change from your last appearance, Amy Wynne.
Sure.
Sure.
What was the question?
Skip, next.
No, I'm a.
You're allowed to bow only to God.
No.
Well, you're only allowed to bow down to God.
I'm going to come back to that.
What about you?
No.
Nope.
If he asked me to, if he'd do that for me.
Nope.
That's not how that works.
Okay.
Wait, I like that.
So I'll change my answer to her answer.
This is difficult because he would.
What?
Normally, the way I'd approach this conversation with somebody who's religious, typically they'd be Christian.
I would cite to a verse in the New Testament.
Or actually, are there any Old Testament verses that relate to biblical submission?
Wives obey your husbands?
Yes.
In the Torah.
But you're not allowed to bow down to any human being.
It says it in the Torah.
So let me ask you a question.
Are.
Wait.
I bow to cars that let me cross the street.
This works for Christians.
Are there any actually?
No, this is.
In Persia, there was the king.
Let me finish my fucking question, please.
So this is going to sound like a retarded question.
Obviously, I don't think that there's Asian Jewish people, but like if an Asian person was Jewish, like in their culture, they bow to each other.
This be not allowed?
Doing like that is not actually bowing, but going down on the floor.
Bowing is.
Play the video, Mary.
Play the bow video.
This is about bow.
Boom.
Bow.
Three big booms.
Should men get down.
Boom.
Here, play it.
Play it.
That's all I want.
Three seconds.
Totally effortless.
Any woman can do it unless she's got scoliosis.
Yeah, I don't think it's allowed.
I could ask Chat GPT: like, can Jewish people, can a woman bow?
I know that it's not allowed for a fact.
I'm just not sure how if that is exactly called bowing down or not.
Okay.
Well, if there's some religious preclusion from bowing, then I don't know if I would really even have a response to that.
But who said, did every did you say yes or was that a no for serenity?
Bella?
Honestly, for funny, I would.
Are you religious or no?
I don't think no, there's nothing religious about me.
No, nothing religious.
Nothing else.
Absolutely nothing.
Certainly not.
Okay.
For the perfect man, would you?
Yeah.
Oh, for the perfect man.
Yeah.
I'll even bow for the perfect woman.
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I would even do it for her.
Oh, yeah.
Perfect woman is rare.
Yeah, I would even do it.
Deja Vu.
What do you mean I would even do it?
Like, you think.
Well, I think the dynamic here would be that.
Like, for example, I would even, for the perfect woman, I would give up my career.
Like, I'd be a stay-at-home dad and raise the Christian.
Oh, yeah.
So when I say even I would do it, what I'm getting at is it is more socially acceptable for a woman to do that.
It would be to give that up for a man.
It would be recognized as now perfect.
This would be for the perfect woman, of course.
I would give it up.
You know, she doesn't have to be perfect, but she's got to be rich.
And I have to like her, of course, to be with her.
Well, how rich is she?
To be a stay-at-home father.
She's like a billionaire.
Yeah, I'm going to.
I'm good.
Why do I have to?
If I'm dating a billionaire, I'm good.
Exactly.
But how many billionaire women are there on this?
Well, Mackenzie Bezos is like, she's kind of a babe, so even if she's Kayleigh Janer.
She can get it.
She's super lit, though, so she wouldn't go for me.
They're bit later.
Like, if it wasn't for that, she'd totally be in my data.
Okay.
Let's see here.
Oh, we have Diana.
We got Diana's notes.
From the Kurdish.
Oh, Diana.
First of all, your honest and controversial belief is that women should not be on the internet at all.
Yeah, that's what I believe.
And at the very least, not on dating apps.
Do you want to go into that a little bit?
Yeah, I think the dating apps just screw the whole culture in general.
And men, I think they men are visual.
So, and when they see lots of women on the internet, and I think they have that idea that it's they have endless choices of females, which it's the same problem with women too.
When they scroll any type of internet, like at the on the internet, like Google.
What about the exception of my career being based off of my well?
I do the same.
See, I'm a blogger, huh?
Because you're here.
So, yes, that's the point.
Because I also have my job on Instagram.
So, and I'm a blogger.
So, but I'm dependent on it.
I build my career.
That kind of contradicts your belief.
I know, yes, of course.
But if I knew how that would be damaged for myself, for me, I would probably never start it.
Can't really put the genie back in the bottle.
I just even didn't even start the Instagram or Telegram channel, so I would just never do that.
But you kind of can.
And I want to say, what's your name?
Summer.
Summer.
I'm really glad you're a Christian.
No, I'm really glad you're a Christian.
And you can kind of tell because despite your career and stuff and the fact that you've had less than 10 bodies, like you still have this light in your eyes.
you're a very nice person but now i know you're very sweet You are.
You're very sweet.
You still have like this light in your eyes.
And like, I'm going to pray for you.
And I really, really hope that you reconsider your career because that light isn't going to stay there forever.
But you are a light.
I can tell that you're a good person.
And I really hope that you turn that you can go the other way because Jesus does forgive, but he calls you to turn away from your sin.
And so I'm going to pray for you that you do that because I think you're a good person.
I think you should be excommunicated from the church.
I think we're going to fucking.
I think the church would be very not well off if I was HMDT.
I give them all my money.
That's great.
I'm going to give you a huge.
Oh, you tithe.
You what?
The money you get from porn, you give it to the church.
Oh my God.
Damn.
That is insane.
Tax free.
Yeah, I think we're going to talk to the Pope and see if we can excommunicate you, to be honest.
You know, those girls have like a hundred, they have like that hundred clock stare.
You know, you look into their eyes and they're like soulless.
They're like dead inside.
I know.
I just looked at everybody.
You put on these eyes and you're after you said that.
I was like, wait, wow.
Yeah, it's true.
You can tell the girls who have a high body count and the girls who don't.
So yeah, I'm like, I have fun.
No, you don't.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't have a high count.
You have light in your eyes.
And that's what I'm saying.
I'm going to pray for you.
Turn away and sin no more.
That's what the Bible calls us to do.
And I think you can do so much better than what you're doing, to be honest.
Well, I'm doing very much.
No, I don't mean financially.
I don't mean financially.
I mean for your soul.
Yeah, for your soul.
That's okay.
No, I appreciate that.
And I understand that people don't like OnlyFans girls and things because it's morally corrupt.
It's not that I don't like you as a person.
I actually like your personality.
I think you're a sweet girl.
I just think generally it's bad for society and it's bad for you.
That's okay.
The Bible outlines these things not to be like a strict sky daddy, but because it's actually bad for us.
Sky daddy.
Skydaddy's kid.
No, I get it, bro.
Screw it.
I'm still going to be Christian.
Still going to do porn.
Love of the game.
Love of the game.
This is so funny.
You're only like four in, though.
I mean, it's like you could stop now and not ruin your life.
My life's so nice.
You just started.
You don't think you'll ever look back and regret it?
Huh?
You don't think you'll ever look back and regret it?
I don't think I will.
No.
I wonder what, like.
Look, I'm not even Christian, but it's like despicable that you're going to like at least do this thing where it's like, look, I'm being I'm not saying well, sort of.
I'm going to say this in a rhetorical way.
It's like, just be like, look, I'm being a piece of shit.
I'm not going to call myself Christian.
Don't parade around Christianity like some fucking joke.
Again, I'm not even a Christian, but it's just.
But you could argue the same with people that do drugs, smoke, drink.
They're still the same like.
The blood of Christ is what?
Listen.
Amen.
Yeah, so drinking is not.
No, okay, but like do drugs or like cheat on their wife and all this stuff.
Like why is the older?
You know the difference?
I don't do any of those things.
The only thing I did is porn.
Each since you are touching it, that's not true.
That's not true.
Also, because you are mistaken.
Unfortunately, you're making a lot of other people's sin because of you.
That's why it's way worse.
Because it's not your only sinning.
You're making so many other people's sin.
This is so true.
So true.
High key, bro.
I'm saying, touch.
Hold on, let me go.
Touch it.
Jen.
I think touch it was wrong.
And I believe it's like sexual immorality and using the Lord's name in vain that are the two like mortal sins.
Did you say, oh my God?
Nope.
No, not G.
Well, GD is the bad one.
Gosh dang.
The equivalent of that.
Oh my gosh.
It hits different when all that comes from the Ten Commandments.
Right.
Who was given the Ten Commandments?
God.
Who got it?
Jesus.
Moses?
Slay Queen.
Moses.
Stop.
Who was Moses?
What nation?
Yes, I know.
I know these things.
But listen, Jesus came to fulfill the old.
We don't need to get into it, Fars.
But it started way after that.
Do you believe that the world is only 2,000 years old?
2026?
Makes me uncomfortable.
So, what happened all that before?
Yeah, there was beautiful.
I mean, I think dinosaurs are a psyop.
Okay, but you don't believe in dinosaurs?
There is proof that dinosaurs are real, though.
Do you believe in the Loch Mess monster?
Yes.
As you should.
Cook that tea.
You know, I wish they were real.
Like, can you see that?
You said that on a dinosaur?
You can't say that on Barnes Night?
That's crazy.
It probably tastes really good.
It probably tastes like wait, what would the Loch Mess Monster?
Yeah, we should probably Death Risk fake Matt Culture.
Have you had kangaroo burgers?
Oh, okay.
I've heard kangaroo burgers.
I was a kangaroo two Halloween in a row.
You seem like you'd be a kangaroo.
My pouch?
Your pouch.
Also, I didn't eat pizza because I keep kosher so much.
I keep kosher.
What did you say before that?
I didn't eat the pizza also because I keep kosher.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, my fiancé's like a like he also obeys the Old Testament as well to a large degree.
So he also doesn't eat pizza.
I mean, I think it's okay if you want to still keep the old commandments, but I also believe that Jesus came to fulfill a bunch of those.
So we're not really happy.
I believe that you should fulfill whatever came before.
You know, whatever is.
I got that.
I respect that.
My fiancé would agree with you.
Oh.
Gang Bang Discussion 00:02:44
Diana, did you want to weigh in on some of these other topics you provided?
Like, you said a lot of women are out of touch with reality.
You say, like, American women have it good in terms of the men.
The Russian women.
All these were said to me.
The Russian women have it hard or something.
I don't know.
Any thoughts there?
Yeah, well, about they detach with reality.
That's what I was talking about.
Social media, how women have Instagram and scroll and TikToks and things like that.
And I believe that.
But don't you?
Yeah, I was about to say, how are you going to bash women for doing that when you do it?
That's kind of hypocritical.
No, I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
I'm just saying it's how's it correct?
It just distracts me from what is going on in real life.
So, because social media, you see all this successful people, successful women, like they have all this gifts and an OG wagon, and you just sit there and like, why I don't have it?
Like, why my men do not do that?
I think it's all a mindset.
You have the right mindset, you're good.
Yeah, the concept.
Yeah, the concept.
Sorry, did you just say you're good, T?
You cheer.
What?
I think it's being able to set boundaries for yourself, too.
You know, a lot of people wake up in the morning, they go straight on their phone.
I like don't look at my phone for the first, like, at least like an hour and a half of my day.
I let my brain wake up to the world, you know.
There's also other things you can do.
One cool trick I learned recently: if you ladies want to try it, it can be dangerous.
So make sure you know your surroundings.
If you shower in the dark with the light off, it resets your nervous system when you go to drink.
I know there's beneficial things.
Yeah, give it a go.
Yes, you feel so different.
You feel really good.
I tried it literally last night and I know that's what I mean.
Make sure you like know where your surroundings are.
Where like the soap, shampoo, conditioner, whatever.
But also, kind of in that same vein, in the morning, you should expose your anus to five to ten minutes of sunlight.
Oh, no, you know what me and Bella do?
That is actually a real thing.
You should do that.
I know you made that up.
It's ridiculous, but it actually is a thing.
You know something really positive me and Bella do in the morning?
We wake up, we go down to the turf, and we yoga and meditate in the sun.
Oh, it's great.
It really makes sense.
Yeah, I thought it was something.
You walk around naked in the morning.
I'm a pretty nice, innocent girl.
I thought you were about to say that you guys like bang on another set or something.
I beg your pardon.
Yeah.
Oh, you guys, like, you bang on another set.
Walk Around Naked 00:14:43
What does that mean?
Like, you're gang.
You don't know about banging?
Gang?
Like, you gang bang, not gang bang, like sexual, but like, you.
Sorry, that was.
Yeah.
What do you think?
I don't know.
Pretty sure like the like kind of like a little bit like yeah, nigga, we will both match you.
What?
I am.
Maybe fucks with that one.
Okay.
I think we've hit a good amount of the notes.
I just want to double check.
Anybody have any like kind of final topics you'd like to hit on as we get to the final portion?
What were the like most prominent questions on the chat?
Yeah, we don't look at their questions.
They were wondering the degree to which you've been inbred.
I think they were asking about that.
They think I'm inbred?
No.
But they were asking.
That was a question.
Does no trolling matter?
No, I don't know.
What was the question from the chat?
They got to send in the TTS or a super chat if they want to ask a question.
Oh, really?
Anybody have any things they want to hit on here?
I just realized if you want to be recognized, Les's Sidney Sweeney, you're wearing literally the exact outfit that she's wearing in her age.
I love it.
In her good jeans campaign.
That's a good observation.
You were double-deaded.
That was the exact outfit she was wearing in that campaign.
This is so true.
I did not do this purposely.
I just love denim and I love a good jean jacket.
It's Levi Premi.
I just realized on some reason.
That's funny.
Wait, really quick.
Did you have a question?
Yeah.
Can you hold it for just a moment?
I promise I'll get it.
Shiva, you agree if I let me actually just double-check the questionnaire.
You say men should pay on first dates, men should provide, men should protect, men should be chivalrous.
Are you going to keep your last name when you get married?
Yes.
You'll keep his last name.
Oh, no, his last name.
You'll take his last name.
Okay, so for some reason in the notes, it was, I guess, written.
Judaism, it's always like that.
You also indicated that you don't think that.
Let me just.
Because I think your answers have differed potentially.
Oh, you didn't circle it here, but in the questionnaire we sent you online, do you think men and women have equal rights?
What did I circle there?
Well, here you said essentially you do think men and women have equal rights.
Here you said you think that women do not have equal rights.
Do women.
Okay, whatever.
I'll just move it on then.
You had a question?
Why do we think that men cheat?
Because they're not getting satisfied off at home.
You just did.
Variety.
Now, a TTS is like 200 bucks.
Oh, you just.
Damn.
You make money off of this.
Look, I'm trying to have 10 kids, you know, and I have 10 children.
It's hard to have.
I'm actually one of nine.
I love that for you.
Nine?
Thanks.
Yeah.
Your question is: why do men cheat?
Why do you think?
Yeah, but why do they have a wandering eye?
Because they're not getting satisfied.
I would say I think that I've never disagreed with you more this entire time.
Yes, hey, no, I definitely was.
I think a lot of people cheat.
What you just said, men still got cheated.
Sorry.
Yeah, go.
Men cheating because they're not getting satisfied makes it feel like it's the woman's fault that the man is going to cheat.
It's not.
It's not.
It's the married, it kind of is.
Like, that's kind of your duty.
Bella has big hands.
Did you guys ever notice that?
Hey, I do.
I'm a pianist.
Yeah, little hands.
Really?
Yeah, dude, you have little hands.
Maybe they're big.
They got a little meat on them, too.
Whoa.
I have the biggest hands and feet in my family.
Whoa, okay.
Oh, to say about big feet.
Like so.
Big clit.
Oh.
Whoa.
Brian.
Why did we have to go?
That was vulgar.
What?
That's disgusting.
I was going to say big heart.
Big clit.
Why are you being satisfied?
Oh, my God, Bale.
You're talking about hands and feet, and there's no need to bring that.
Did you know big noses correlate to a big penis?
You know, I know that.
Well, what can I say?
I gotta say, no, I can't.
No, I'm vulgar.
Let's not get wrong here.
I'm uncomfortable.
It's not true.
What can I say?
It's not true.
It does not guarantee.
It's a good correlation.
I've seen it.
You dated a guy with a big nose.
I know.
I dated him with a small nose.
Okay, well, I mean, I didn't date, but I've been with someone with a small nose.
Trust me, it's true.
My man, he was five foot and he had a big deck because his nose was huge.
It's crazy.
It's weird that I'm sorry.
I swear, I swear, I swear.
Oh, what?
That's crazy.
So, anyway, I had proud of his big nose on myself.
You're blessed, aren't you, love?
I guess so.
It's my only redeeming quality, I guess.
So, don't feel insecure about how you look because if you've got a big nose, you've got a big feet.
But it doesn't matter, like the size.
It does matter.
I wonder if I've ever just disappointed the woman.
Like, she was like, Whoa, that guy's got a big nose.
And then, like, we have sex, and she's like, Damn.
She's like, What the hell?
Shit, that sucks.
I feel like that only happens with height.
Because they're taller than that.
I've heard women who think like all black dudes have big dicks, and they're invariably.
Also, not true.
But that's a stereotype that they you gotta keep that going.
Yeah.
If you got a stereotype, once you go black, you never go back.
You're like, do you know what?
Yeah, that's true.
We don't have big daddy.
You gotta keep that going.
Do you guys have any stereotypes about like Russian women or Russian people in general?
Yep, like to drink.
Every Russian I've ever met in Shameless.
You feel serenity.
Based in traditional.
Yeah.
I'm in a pretty hot.
Possibly.
Russian women.
Cheating.
Did anybody want to bite on the cheating thing?
I think they cheat for like a multitude of reasons, but it could be like because they're not satisfied because women should give their bodies to their husbands.
That's part of it.
Yeah.
But that still shouldn't.
Because of the degradation of women, it's made it easier for men to cheat because it goes back to, again, they're not being with a man that cherishes them.
I think there's just different people.
You're going to have different reasons.
We live in a society where casual sex is more accessible.
Well, I mean, things are.
I mean, people were definitely fucking in the 70s like crazy.
Yeah, for sure.
That was a sexual liberation.
But when like drugs were like going to the bottom of the world, casual sex is so accessible that I think that plays out.
That's why SCDs are so prominent.
If you find a good man, though.
We have a chat here from.
Glocktavius donated $200.
Oh, okay.
What do you girls bring to the table?
Yes, Brian.
Should we do a fit check?
Stand up.
Stand up, everybody, if you want to.
We got.
Can you see?
That works, I guess.
We're mostly getting her.
Okay, demo denom.
Are we actually doing this?
I guess so.
Why?
Don't turn around.
Don't turn around.
I'm not going to turn around.
Don't turn around.
Ass is gonna hang out.
All right, there it is.
Bella, fit check.
They want to see your outfit.
Is that a thing you leave?
You leave the button undone?
Yeah, it's cute.
It's low-waisted.
Kind of 90s almost.
I don't know.
Got a nice little dress from Amy here.
We're going to do a fit check.
She's wearing some Levi pants.
There it is.
We got that.
I don't really want to stand up.
If you guys want to, you don't have to.
Gorgeous.
Okay, there it is.
But we bring to the table much more than what we're wearing.
But what do you need?
What do you want?
Me too, girl, me too.
I didn't mean sexually.
Yeah, going around the table, I guess, just what do you bring to the table?
My personality.
Oh, can you scoot your mic to the edge of the table?
Oh.
And then.
My personality is what I bring to the table.
But you hired yourself higher in your beauty more than your personality.
What?
I did this.
My face too.
Face card.
And personality, though.
Serenity is serene personality.
What about you?
Not at all.
I'm a baller.
Let's do one looks and one personality thing, I guess.
Wait, what?
What?
What do you bring, Bella?
What do you bring to the table?
What do you think?
You'll never be bored.
This is a good thing.
I have so much energy.
She brings the energy.
I do.
Every time you're in a room.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Never be bored.
She can be.
Big booms.
Yeah.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
Do you date mostly extroverts or introverts?
Introverts.
So here's the thing.
Tell us the thing.
I get along with introverts very well because when I hang out with a person, like you could literally sit there and be silent the entire time and there would still be no silence.
I could just yap your ear off.
But I also love getting along with extroverts too because I will constantly be like, let's go.
Let's go do this thing.
Let's go be extroverted together.
And if I have an introvert friend, it's like specifically one-on-one hangouts.
Yes.
Amy, what do you bring to the table?
I think I'm very base in reality, not easily offended, and I love to like cook and clean and do all of that stuff.
Okay.
Northern Ireland.
Or sorry, England.
Northern England.
Northern England.
I got mine.
Yeah.
Say, I've got some nice eyes.
You do.
Thank you.
And, well, personality-wise.
Do you date chavs?
No.
How do you even date from that?
My.
I think it's because I sound very northern and chave.
Whereas I'm not from London and I don't speak like well.
Yeah.
I'm more of like a redneck.
You know what I mean?
A redneck for England.
My knowledge has been colored by my many travels.
One by you.
Lips and very.
Why do you have a face?
Do I not have nice lips?
Huh?
Huh?
Then you're going to clip it.
Okay.
And I'm very.
I love to give.
You're a giver.
Yeah, I'm giving.
Me too.
Me too.
I'm a great.
I love giving more than taking.
I'm a great receiver.
I'm a great receiver.
Wow.
Most of the people.
Great receiver.
I'm the best receiver.
Something that's not enough.
Most of the people are like, though.
I'm not talking about gay shit.
Yeah, I was like, be careful, Brian.
Somebody clicked on that.
I thought, is that receive?
Yes, you receive.
Is that a gay thing?
Yep.
You're a bottom?
No, you receive oral sex.
If that's what you're into, and like the girl on top doing all the work.
I think you need to like specify.
Okay, why do we keep getting so raunchy so fast?
I don't know, Bella.
You'd love to push it with your belly button.
And I didn't say anything.
Are you anti-belly buttons?
It's a fidget.
A belly button piercing is really funny.
I have a literal earring in my belly button.
It's my favorite thing ever.
So what about that?
I love that for you.
Thank you.
What do you bring to the table?
See it on my Instagram.
All of it is there.
Yeah.
You're really obsessed.
You are really obsessed with how I speak.
Yeah, you are totally obsessed.
You got to enunciate a little bit.
You got to enunciate, you know.
Put a little fit.
Please teach me English afterwards.
I would love to.
I'm not talking about fit is it as long as it's free.
Hey, crack it a little bit, Mary.
Crack it open.
Yeah, we're almost wrapped.
So what about you?
What do you bring to the table?
Just a submissive little wife.
Submissive little wife.
Okay.
But what man's want?
I'll bring what he wants.
All right, I'll tell you guys what I bring to the table.
I bring a lot to the table.
I'm just a catch.
I'm such a catch.
That beck nose.
The back nose.
Here we go.
Well, let's see.
I'm tall.
I'm six foot one, blue eyes.
Are you actually?
Yeah.
You're not 6'1.
6'1.
You want to measure me?
Stand up.
You want to measure?
Stand up.
I'm not going to stand up.
You're not 6'1.
You were standing back.
Yeah, and you were like this much taller.
I fucking dwarfed him.
Nari, he's very tall.
Are you actually?
Were you tripping?
Yeah, I'm 6'1.
Yeah.
No, you don't.
I feel like you're chubby.
I don't like you.
He's 5'9.
Tall men, when they're like a little chubbier, don't look as tall as they are.
It's so true.
So you've got me.
You've got me pegged.
Damn.
Oh, gay again.
I know, shit.
I think you might be a DL gay.
DL gay, maybe.
I'm gay for you, Serenity.
Whoa, what?
You're so sweet.
Am I like a man?
You can buzz your hair off.
You do look like a cute guy.
I look like a...
You know, it's...
Like a child.
Yeah.
It's kind of like, is it, oh my God.
It's taking me too long to find.
No, negative.
Oh, wait, it's kind of like...
Wait, wait, wait, I got a good one.
Negative aura.
I got a negative aura.
That's why I stick to anal sex.
Yeah, you are gay.
You are definitely gay.
100%.
Or at least like a little bit curious.
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
You and my ex would be good friends.
Yeah.
Probably.
Good friends or good friends.
Okay, let's see what else.
What do I bring to the table?
Well, despite my sometimes short temper, I have my head on very straight.
Not like, I'm not talking about sexuality.
Don't drink, don't smoke, don't do drugs, don't go to the bars, clubs, don't party, don't gamble.
Top 1% earner.
Really?
I'm going to take care of everything.
Conservative.
Ish.
Mostly conservative.
Ambitious, go-getter, decisive.
If I say so much.
Strong work ethic.
Clever, creative, problem solver.
Keep it going, child.
I'm the guy you go to to get things done.
I think things happen.
And let's see if there's anything else.
Also, I believe she should come first.
I think that's a positive.
I bring that to the table.
Also, BLM.
I am accepting of BLM, I guess.
That could be a positive for a woman who has a large labia, but she's a bit insecure about it.
So I think a lot of women encounter the labia shaming.
So I'm on team Big Labia.
I'll date a girl with an any, but she's got to make up for it.
You know, like I'll, if she's got a, like, she gets a bit of a pass if she's got like a Guinness World Record book labia.
Like, she can't, she doesn't have to bow.
I mean, she still should, but she doesn't have to bow.
Bedtime Banter 00:07:58
What?
She's.
If she has fat labia?
Huh?
If she has fat labia.
A girl with a big labia gets a bit of a pass on certain things.
She, ideally, she still does the shit, but I'll, you know, it's kind of like girls will tolerate, like, if the guy's really hot, girls will tolerate some bullshit.
Like, if the girl has a giant labia, like, I can get lashes.
How beggaries are getting lost in that shit?
Then, then, look, she's still got to be pleasant.
But, like, look, if she's kind of, I don't know, I'm trying to think of an example of a pass I would give.
Can't tell if you're being facetious or not.
No, he loves labia.
Okay.
Oh my god, this girl, this is two slices of pizza.
Hey, enjoy yourself.
Enjoy it, Pella.
Because I used to.
And we're going to talk about it.
Young, young.
Bring it up.
Pill it up.
No, it's my Instagram profile.
Oh, it's just my Instagram.
Brian Alice.
There's not a separate Instagram.
Okay.
What else was it?
I'm sorry.
We still have a $25 talkable good card, bro.
I love that.
Instagram, a recent surf.
Stop.
Oh, good question.
Yeah, why is that?
Oh, I know because Mary, I think you were like, oh my god, I'm so tired.
And I was going to look if you were doing some dumb shit last night.
Mary was like, oh my god, I'm so tired.
Okay, go ahead, pull it up, Mary.
Pull up my Instagram.
Young Brian.
What was the context for the Young Brian thing?
Because I used to be.
Okay, let's show you Young Brian.
Brian and his frame.
Yeah, that's what I said.
I saw on the Instagram and I was like, whoa, like, there's a difference.
All right, pull it up.
All right, scroll down.
I just don't think that's damn.
Look, I'm old.
Okay.
Do you still surf?
No, but I will get back to it.
That's you?
As you should.
Yes, fellas.
Stop fucking cooning.
Stop being fucking cooner over there.
Whoa, she's like rolling over there.
It's crazy.
Scroll up.
Which one?
Eminem?
Yeah.
There's a little kid.
Is that you?
Oh, that's me as a kid.
Yeah, that's when I was a kid.
I love the age of the bottom.
You fucking like that?
By the way, that's what happened to you.
What happened?
Look, what happened?
I'll tell you.
When you get older, when you get, well, I'll tell you a couple things.
So in high school, I wrestled.
I was a wrestler.
And you lose, you do not lose weight.
You cut weight.
Cut weight.
Do you?
And so I think there's a thing when honestly, though, I kept my fitness up for a while after high school, but you do this thing.
Freshman 15.
Well, I was really unhealthy with the weight cutting because I would drop like 10 pounds in a couple days or something.
So I would take it.
And then like afterwards, you blah, blah, blah.
And I think there's, it's literally an eating disorder, like wrestlers, etc.
And so I think when you do that, I don't know.
I think it, I don't know, maybe this is just bullshit.
But Brian, what is your zodiac sign?
Oh.
Guess.
Hey, shut up, Mary.
Yeah.
Let's guess.
Let's guess.
Well, I think we already know that's a Taurus.
Yeah, Taurus.
Well, she just said, mess with the bull, you get the whole thing.
When's your birthday?
Maybe.
But yeah, I was a thin guy.
I was fit.
I like when you said that.
Hey, how do you do it?
Even like three years ago, you were amazing.
Much, much trim off.
Oh, yeah.
I gained.
Yeah, yeah, it was.
Last time I was on this panel.
No, but the reason I gained weight, yes, good point.
Freshman 15 is sticked.
This is doing, like, being out.
Okay, doing this show is controversial.
I got ops.
I got haters.
I get death threats.
I got people writing hip pieces about me.
I got all kinds of bullshit that happens behind the scenes that we can talk about on the show.
Oh, snap.
Stress.
Now, the way I deal with stress, I don't drink.
I don't smoke.
I don't do drugs.
I don't, I guess some people can gamble.
You should try pizza.
You should try the gym.
That's that was a problem.
That's what he's saying.
When I'm stressed out, my appetite goes fucking insane.
So I eat a lot.
I almost wish I had a drinking problem instead of drinking is also a lot of calories.
I wish I had that problem.
When alcohol restaurant can't eat.
This is my issue.
Yeah.
Stress.
You know what you should replace it with?
Sex.
No, the jam.
Yeah.
I mean, you can eat as much as it would hit the gym and turn it into muscle.
Running from Orphan Rushes.
You're going to eat this.
The best.
I feel so much better.
Yeah.
The best feeling.
It is what it is.
You want me to produce lace?
It is what it is.
For the record, I don't think you're that fat.
No.
I got a dad bun.
I got a dad.
Well, a little tape.
Should have three kids by now.
Do you have to kill me?
Just because of your age.
I'm not talking about it.
Look, I am a little behind the curve.
What age are you?
Do you want kids?
Oh, yeah.
You want 10.
I'm going to have 10 kids around here.
I don't want Steve now.
Barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.
In the kitchen.
I'm also.
Cooking him while you're pregnant and then bowing down.
Okay.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Just kidding.
It's okay.
Oh, I didn't realize it for such a long time.
What age are you?
I am hiring Serenity to be helmet girls for me, though.
They're now part of the team.
What's the pay?
What's the pay?
Huh?
What's the pay?
Yeah.
We'll talk after the show.
You get paid with me.
Anything more than not paid with money?
No, I literally, every time I look over, she's always just like.
As in the other, every time I look her, she's zone out into something.
Yeah.
She's just on the camera.
I really think that's a good thing.
There's food, you get food, you get paid, so it's a good gig.
Okay, wait, is there anything?
Oh, the makeup segment.
Loki down.
Yeah.
And you guys, we'll hire both of you.
And then both of us can just sit there and get paid to hang out, bro.
Get to basically be paid.
Oh, we don't want to talk.
Brian, the strike ear is a fair bit longer than it used to, huh?
Yeah, it does.
Respectfully, my fiancé is going to be going to sleep soon, so I don't know how much longer I can kick it.
We're about to wrap.
I feel ya.
I feel ya.
Looks like we got a test tomorrow.
We have kind of our final segment.
It's like who's down to take their makeup off?
I remember doing this last time and I actually loved it because then I didn't have to do it later.
Wait, Loki, I hand it over.
But I'm not doing makeup.
I don't really like.
Do you want makeup?
Yes, we'll do it.
White nose.
Really?
Save it and then you're going to show it to the screen here.
Oh, yeah, I've got a lot of makeup on.
I'm not doing that with white.
The thing is, are we forgetting a segment?
My mascara is not going to come off with a makeup one.
I'm not doing mine either.
Yeah, I'm not doing mascara.
I have a waterproof mascara on her now.
Nice.
Nice.
Bedtime routine, I think.
Makeup off.
Stress these manage so much.
You're literally repping your skin off.
I couldn't give a fuck.
You don't put makeup on?
No, I don't use wipes to take it off.
You just touch it, babe.
I is touching.
Yeah, I'm going to get really red in a second.
Yeah, yeah, we're not going to do that segment.
Bro, literally no difference.
Hold it up.
Hold it up.
Guys, where are damage?
Natural coins.
I mean, there's still a bit left on this.
Yeah.
Where?
Can you look this exact same?
There's a damage.
Oh, we're still waiting on it.
Excuse me.
Get angle and can look at them there.
Oh, gosh.
I've never done this before.
Mary, I feel like we're forgetting a segment.
I feel like we're going to begin with it.
It's bedtime.
I feel like makeup.
It doesn't really change the look of your face at all.
I think women should be drafted.
I would have done this, bro.
I think we should ban circumcision.
Sorry.
I agree with that.
What?
Really?
It's a barbaric practice.
And it's barbaric.
Oops, there goes my phone again.
But then I also lie.
Is there a political practice?
It's good to be.
In Christianity, do you have a like, is it a law?
I mean, I know that Jewish guys have to.
I don't know that.
I think you just need to be a big fiancé.
Yeah.
Speaky day.
Did you guys show it?
Did you hold it?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's kind of weird that you like cut babies, like, four skin off.
Bro, you're so naturally.
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I don't want to.
Is that virus?
Yeah.
Wow.
It's not weird.
It's a law from the Torah.
It's not.
Did they get anesthetic?
Never mind.
Okay.
Never mind.
It was a good talk, Bella.
Good talk.
Go talk, go talk.
She's not in the shower.
I feel like she beats her boyfriend, to be honest.
You know, you said that twice now.
She doesn't.
I have intuitions about people.
She seems so sweet.
What do you mean?
Where are you getting this from, Brian?
I don't get it.
The thing you have to remember is under the sweetness, there's a dark, ominous.
Didn't you say ominous?
No.
Well, here's the thing: most yoga bitches I've met are actually insane.
And you guys said you start every day doing yoga.
Are you doing a little bit of a red flag?
We mean literally like stretching.
Yeah, we just sit in the sun.
Dirt do like the chanting shit.
That's where it gets demonic.
Dirty.
Yeah, they do like yogi chanting.
Chanting is our nighttime thing.
Don't worry.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's our nighttime ritual.
Good times.
Wonderful times.
I'd like to do a call to action here.
We have three women who do OnlyFans.
I'd like to use this moment as an opportunity to give you guys a call to action here at the end.
Would you consider stopping sex work entirely tonight?
No.
What about you?
Holly?
What?
No.
You thought it was too hell?
Is she trolling me at this point?
You thought this was going to convince them to stop?
What would it take to get you guys to stop?
I tried my best.
Nothing.
I just changed my mind.
Even like any amount of dog.
I've been told four years and it's changed my life.
I wouldn't be here right now if I didn't do the job that day.
Yeah, but you're here in the hilarious.
We don't do all my fans.
I'm from the UK.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm from Israel.
Why don't you investigate the money right now and then stop?
Maybe just want to stop.
I would have lost my life there.
I would have had a surgery.
I would lost all the weight that I did if I never did this job at all.
Hey, Pimp.
Then why are you doing it?
I was enjoying it.
I was love of the game, babe.
I don't need the player.
Hate the game.
Hate the man.
Put that on a t-shirt.
Sad.
I feel like I took like melatonin.
Plus, it was actually really empowering for me.
It was good.
Melatonin infused.
Because I used to get harassed.
My boobs obviously are really bad.
I used to get harassed anyway for it.
Like harassed for your boobs.
So yeah, I worked to my dad's.
So why do you walk like that?
Because I have reclaimed the whole thing.
So I used to cover myself up to my dad's restaurant and I got harassed daily.
Even though you were covered up.
Even though I was covered up.
You can't really cover them up too fast.
Why?
Like the side of them.
No.
Like I say, but not showing that.
Any final things here before I wrap?
Anybody want a final topic?
Anybody?
I think we went over a lot.
I'm tired.
What's up, Grandpa?
What do you want to say?
Thank you for the pizza.
Bellington.
I want to say, I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my beliefs or with the point of the shirt, girl.
You're fine.
Thank you for watching.
What media said was already said.
Also, I feel like that's time to be very friendly.
Whereas, like, last time it was like so not friendly.
Yeah, I feel like everyone's really nice.
What?
Except for Brian.
I was invisible.
No, that they them that was sent in there that she was like, you're a whore prostitute.
I was raped.
Blah, blah, blah.
Well, I do think EarlyFans Girls are whores, but I think you lady quite nice.
I'm a nice ball.
You're quite nice.
And I'm really believing there's nice whores.
You really do have a light in your eye, and I don't want it to go out.
I hope it stays.
Wow.
So nice.
But two collapsed this weekend.
I'm going out.
All right.
Super final thing here.
Serenity.
You said a woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
Why is that?
Because I'm not against weight.
Well, I was thinking either way, like, too skinny oversized.
Either way, should not be rejected.
I mean, you can reject them if you don't find it attractive, but whatever.
But I don't know.
I briefly went over that.
Yeah, yeah.
But so is it wrong for a man to reject a woman because of her weight?
No.
No.
Hold on.
Let her let her think.
Yeah, no, I don't believe.
Oh, but you said should not be rejected because maybe it's not wrong, but she shouldn't be rejected for that reason.
Like, men should not be so shallow.
Yeah.
Like, if she's obese, like, you know, give her a chance.
As a man, everyone's got a tight man.
Yeah, everyone's got a tighter.
Well, but you also said here.
You also wrote that.
The reason the show is going so long, y'all keep interrupting me.
Go ahead.
Okay, I'm trying to wrap here.
This is like the final thing.
You said you're 5'2 ⁇ .
The minimum height of a man you would date is 5'10.
Isn't this basically the same thing?
Like you can reject a guy because of his height, which by the way, it can be fixable.
Well, exactly.
So, like, even more zoom and be skinny like those pictures on the Instagram, even more so, or how many shoes, but I mean, we all aren't.
But why?
But no, it would take surgery to become taller.
I like being a short girl.
It's what I advantage.
Actually, men do prefer short.
Yeah, exactly.
They don't prefer bit fat men.
Okay, but they don't prefer fat men.
My mom.
It is true.
Women do prefer.
I'm on the road right next to you.
Okay, though.
You're like, what?
120?
You're 20 pounds or something?
Close.
103.
As an overweight girl, I think that it's totally fine to have it.
Like, I never dated an overweight guy, and I think you could disagree.
Like, you don't have to go out with someone overweight.
Yeah, it's fine if I have it.
I stayed with my ex even after he got shot for football.
Well, that's different because if you already loved him, you shouldn't unconditional love.
Like, it shouldn't have shouldn't change.
Shouldn't I have said whatever changes?
I want to say GG.
Let me do my outro.
Sorry, sorry.
Sorry, my outro.
Why'd you keep making high key?
Let him know, brother.
Huh?
You've done it like four times when you still fucking talk.
Why do you keep talking Italian?
Yeah.
I'm fucking Italian.
I let him know.
Are you Italian?
He's French.
French and Italians be.
Yeah.
What are you doing?
Come on now.
I'm just autistic.
Speak French.
I'm a little French.
Speak French.
Hey, go on.
Speak French.
Bonjour.
Voule-vous couché accoumoi.
That's all I know.
Vous le vous couché avac moi sissoi.
Yeah, it's right now.
Well, go to bed with you.
What does it say?
He said, will you come to the bottom?
Clip it and ship it, I guess.
Damn.
Break some.
Some shit's going down.
Yeah, I think it's time to leave.
I think we should leave them up.
It's time to get a room.
It's time on the Star Podcast at the end of it.
Science had them show.
The thing is, is like girls will ask me, Brian, are you a boob guy or a butt guy?
Of course, I say labia guy.
But it's like labia, but then boobs.
Like nice boobs, big boobs are nice or whatever.
Let's pass my hand.
I honestly am.
Honestly, I feel like I'd be a bit intimidated.
Yeah, I know, I get I would almost could be crushed.
You could definitely be crushed.
This is weird.
I could for sure crush it.
If they're like small but nice, that's not as I think a nice butt, you know?
Yeah.
Small but like perky.
Itty bitty butt.
Do you ever have any plastic, like BBL or fake titties?
You don't have fake titties.
You had a reduction.
Well, I had a reduction in an uplift and a fish.
Mike, like Mike, Mike, Mike.
I had a reduction in an uplift and a tommy top.
Yeah.
You know what's interesting?
I feel like women with you know smaller breasts, it could be A cup, B cup, get a bit of unfair flack.
But, you know, I'm a defender.
Itty bitty to the committee.
I'm itty bitty.
I agree.
Itty bitty to the committee.
To the itty bitty to the committee.
What's the word not ally?
It's a supporter.
No, what's the word?
An ally is right.
No, there's another word for it.
I am a no, it's not that.
It's like it doesn't really.
Oh, that's going to bug me though, because of my explain it.
I'm looking for a word.
It's like kind of like allied, but chat, help me out here.
What is the term, like a synonym for like an ally?
Not advocate, no, not advocate.
Nope.
It's not advocate.
It is I'm a now it's arguing me.
Like I'm six foot one, but I am a blank to short men.
I am a post to?
It's not advocate, not supporter.
It's opposed, but it's like adversary.
What are synonyms?
Look up synonyms for opponent.
Ally.
Help me out.
Are you agreeing or disagreeing?
I'm a opposite.
Opposed.
Wait, it's not ally?
Or is it ally?
It's ally.
Let me just Google this shit.
Let me Google.
Ally.
Sorry.
Ally.
Cinnamon.
It's got to be in it.
Unite.
Join.
Join forces.
Is it in it?
In it.
I am talking about in it.
It's like a lucky night.
Are you sure it's not ally?
I don't know.
Her eyes are really also pretty.
I feel like advocate.
Ally.
Where was I going?
Alliance.
Where was I going with it?
I do.
You guys are covering your nose.
Because you're six walls.
I know.
Wait, wait.
I know where I'm going.
I know where I'm going.
I know where I'm going with this.
I usually get like a bunch of people.
All right, wait, guys.
Let me say this should be a little bit different.
Solidarity.
Ambassador.
Solidarity.
Solidarity.
Oh, I was going to say that.
Stand in solidarity, but doesn't that usually mean that you have like the same thing?
No, not necessarily.
Oh, yeah, it does.
Like, you could be in small tasks.
You have small taste for like a never mind.
Calm down, Bella.
You guys are distracting me.
I'm trying to wrap this up here.
Oh, small boobs.
Okay.
Part of the itty-bitty titty committee.
I think if you, I actually think if you look at Greek statues, Roman statues, they don't have giant fucking cans.
They typically have smaller breasts.
I don't know.
I've seen some statues.
No.
Statues, Greek statues, Roman statues.
Oh, yeah.
A cup, B cup.
B cup, probably more so B cup.
True.
And so when we are doing an assessment of beauty, I actually think if a woman has her tits are too big, no offense.
Listen, non-tech.
I think you can be hot, you can be sexy, but I feel like if your titties are too big, you can't be beautiful.
What?
She's girlie's fucking beautiful.
I get what you're saying.
You're beautiful, but usually people perceive girls with big titties as more of sexy than beautiful.
But you're beautiful.
Like, there's something elegant about small breasts.
I feel yeah.
There's an elegance, you know, like.
I'm biased, but I agree.
Yeah, she's on.
Very elegant.
Like, you can't run and they're not hitting you in the face.
Like, you know, she's just got giant floppy titties.
It's like, it's less.
It can be hot.
A lot of guys are into that.
Look at that.
I think there's a less.
I don't know.
Maybe that's people in a hate for that.
All right.
God bless you.
All right, guys.
Let me hear.
Let me do the outro.
God bless America.
Let's hear it, Brian.
God bless America.
And Israel.
Oh, boy.
I was like, you know, both.
God bless Serene.
America first.
Is this a no?
I'll just wrap the show.
Okay, GG.
Well played.
Well played to you guys.
You guys were dope.
Thank you so much for coming.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you so much for having us.
Agree on everything, but I appreciate it.
That's all right.
All with love.
That's what the show is for.
Thank you guys for coming.
Guys, last call.
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
I appreciate that.
Thank you to everyone who supports the show, watches the show.
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