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Brian Atlas hosts a chaotic, high-energy debate with guests like Diana (38, Russian-American), Taz (OnlyFans creator earning near six figures in two months), and Bella (18, Oregon server) on dating, gender roles, and societal shifts—from Amy’s $2M+ income demands to Diana’s controversial stance against women on dating apps. They clash over alimony bias, birth control’s alleged effect on attraction, and whether feminism truly seeks equality, like mandatory military conscription for women. The episode spirals into absurd hypotheticals (e.g., sex with Putin to prevent WWIII) and rapid-fire trivia, exposing gaps in knowledge while critiquing modern dating culture’s commodification and perceived double standards. Ultimately, it blends hyperbole, cultural grievances, and self-deprecating humor into a messy critique of relationships, economics, and identity politics. [Automatically generated summary]
Welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.
I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
We're gonna just jump right in.
Sorry for the delay there, guys.
We're gonna have the guests introduce themselves.
Go ahead.
I'm Serenity.
I'm 19.
I'm from California.
I'm recently unemployed.
And I go to the CC in Santa Barbara.
And I'm a communications major.
And sorry, did you say where you're from originally?
California.
Like Northern California.
More kind of like Reading?
More like the Bay Area.
And you said you were recently unemployed.
Were you fired?
No, I was not.
I just moved recently so I had to quit.
Yeah.
Okay, what about you?
I'm Summer.
I'm from Scotland.
Why did for a job?
Age?
Oh, I'm 27.
Okay.
And I do OnlyFans and fun.
What part of Scotland are you from?
I'm from Glasgow.
Glasgow, okay.
That's the best place.
All right.
Any college or anything like that?
I went to Glasgow School of Art.
Art?
Do you have a degree from there?
No, I dropped it.
Dropped in, okay.
What were you doing for art?
I was in portraiture and faint art.
Portraits.
Okay.
You should.
Do you want to draw you?
Portrait, yeah.
I'll deny it.
Like one of your French girls or.
Oh, I'll draw you.
Yes.
All right.
What about you?
What's up?
I'm Bella.
I'm 18.
Or server.
And I'm not in school right now.
Okay.
And where are you from?
Oregon.
Oregon.
Portland?
Nope.
Rogue River.
Rogue River.
Middle of nowhere.
Okay, the sticks.
The sticks.
All right, what about you?
I'm Amy.
I'm from Australia originally.
I've been living in the States 10 years now.
Most recently at Roserna.
I just moved out there.
I am an independent creator on YouTube.
I actually just went independent.
I was with the Value Tainment Network for a couple of years.
And I have an Associate's in Justice and Legal Studies.
And repeat your age again.
30.
30, okay.
Rock and roll.
It's been a few years since I've been on.
Yeah, welcome back.
What about you?
I'm Holly.
I'm from the UK.
I'm 23 years old, and I also do OnlyFans, but I have a uni degree doing textile design.
All right.
And what city are you from in the UK?
I'm from Leeds.
Leeds.
That's northern.
Yeah.
The Northerner.
Northerner.
All right.
What about you?
My name is Sheva.
I moved to Miami a year and a half ago from Israel.
And I work as an office manager for a roofing company.
And I sing and play guitar and write and compose.
Age?
And I'm 21.
21.
Are you in college or university or anything like that?
No, I work.
Work.
Okay.
Gotcha.
All right.
Welcome.
What about you?
Hi, my name is Taz.
I also do OnlyFans for a living.
And what else?
Age.
My age.
I'm 24 years old.
I'm turning 25 this February.
Any college?
I have a degree in information technology.
I'm an ex-software developer.
Ex-software developer.
And you've went into OnlyFans?
How much were you making as a software developer?
I was making six papers.
How much are you making with OnlyFans?
I have been on the platform for only two months.
How much are you making on OnlyFans?
I don't know if I want to disclose that.
Well, are you making as much as you?
A little bit more than that.
Almost very close by.
Very.
Okay, so in two months you've dwarfed your, or at least you're matching your earnings as a software.
I was not really expecting that either, but.
All right.
What about you?
My name is Lisa.
I am 34.
I'm a stay-at-home mom, and I am from super small town in Utah.
Population 650, so.
All right.
College or anything like that?
I did go to nursing school and get my license.
Okay, so you're a nurse.
Yeah, but my license expired.
Oh, but you stay at home with the kids.
Okay, gotcha.
You used to be a nurse.
Okay, what about you?
My name is Diana.
I'm from Russia.
So I hope you guys understand my English through my accent.
It's not perfect.
What city?
Khabarovsk.
It's forest.
Really close to China.
Okay.
Age?
38.
38?
Yeah, I think I'm the oldest here.
College.
Texas University.
And it's a college in Khabarovsk.
I don't know.
How long have you been in the United States?
10 years.
10 years.
Okay.
All right.
Welcome, everybody.
Welcome, welcome.
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Okay, relationship status.
Tell us your relationship status.
Very much single.
All right.
How long have you been single for?
Almost a year.
I'd say like nine months.
Longest relationship for you?
Well, the first and only boyfriend I've had was three years off and on.
Three years off and on.
Yeah.
Okay.
And if I were, is this the gay one?
I didn't know you were going to out it like that.
Just right away.
I get it.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I found out he was DL.
Gay.
Okay.
The three-year off and on guy.
This guy.
Yeah.
And when you say it was off and on, how many times was it?
Oh, it was throughout high school from sophomore year to right after senior year.
Yeah.
And it was very much off and on, continuously.
But like three times, 20 times.
Like, I'd say, oh, like five to ten times.
Five to ten.
Five.
I'd say five times.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's on the higher end, I'd say.
Yeah.
Off and on.
And who would typically initiate the off?
Who would initiate the endings?
Definitely both of us.
Okay, it was mixed.
Yeah.
And then would it be mixed also for who would try to be like, let's get back together?
Would it be kind of mutual?
It was a lot of convincing on his end.
To like convincing you to go back.
Okay.
Now, when you say he was gay, was he bisexual or he's gay?
No, he's not gay.
I think he's sexistic occasionally.
Well, it's just, I went through his phone one day, saw DMs, and it was with a trans woman.
He said he was into everything.
And I was like, oh, okay.
Whoa, wait, okay.
But like, with a trans woman.
Yeah.
Okay.
But says he was into everything.
So that's like, like, I don't know what you would call that.
So was he cheating on you?
Oh, yeah.
That's how it was.
Was he having sex with a trans woman?
I don't know.
I never found that out.
Damn.
That's intense.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Question for you, though.
You guys were on and on again, off again quite a few times.
Yeah.
Did you stay with him or get back with him at any point after the revelation that he was banging transgender people?
No, I never got back with him.
I talked to him a little bit after it, but he cheated.
I mean, it's not like nothing of the sort of like weird or anything.
It's just he cheated.
The discovery of him being gay, that was the final straw.
The discovery that he cheated.
But like, I mean, the gay, yeah, that's a little like.
Yeah, I get the cheating, that's probably worse or whatever.
But like, no shame.
The game is game, but the game is game.
Yeah, but what does that mean?
Like, do you, honey?
But that's not my thing.
Yeah, you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
But you didn't stay with him after the revelation, the discovery of the gay thing.
Yeah, no.
All right.
You've been single for one year.
How long have you been in Santa Barbara for?
I just moved here three weeks ago.
Okay, so this is your first semester quarter at the Santa Barbara City College.
Yeah, I love it.
All right.
Any prospects, dating prospects since you moved here?
No, you know.
First semester in Santa Barbara, I'm not trying to date anybody.
Not trying to date?
Yeah.
Okay.
What's your orientation?
Straight, bisexual.
Oh, straight.
Straight.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
I'm single.
Single?
How long have you been single for?
For two years.
Two years.
Longest relationship?
Nine years.
Nine years?
Yeah.
Is that the one that ended two years ago?
Yeah.
Who broke up with who?
I broke up with him.
Nine year relationship.
So you guys were, wait, you guys were dating because you're 27.
All of our childhoods.
Wow.
Oh.
Interesting.
Any guys currently in the picture?
No.
Nothing?
No.
I mean, I really want to see a raccoon, so if a guy shows me a raccoon, then I'm going to go ahead and get away.
Mary, can you clear?
Can you clear the just click on the side area, please?
No, higher.
I'll come back at some point and fix it.
Okay.
No guys in the picture.
Nothing?
No.
I've been in a couple of dates, but they don't come in what I want.
I see.
Okay.
What about you?
Single.
All right.
How long have you been single for?
Like seven months.
Something like that.
Okay.
Longest relationship?
Like two years.
Two years.
Is that the one that ended seven months ago?
No.
No.
That was a okay.
That was a different one then.
How long was the one seven months ago?
Like four months, five months.
Okay.
And you said, though, in your pre-show notes that it's complicated, I think.
Is that right?
Are things complicated?
So are you seeing somebody?
Yes.
What does that mean?
I have a crush.
Yeah, what does that mean, though?
We hang out.
How long have you guys been hanging out for?
A number of months, I think.
Like three, maybe.
Okay.
And how often do you see him or hang out with him?
Like every day.
He's in our friend group.
Love him.
Oh, he's in the friend group.
Okay.
And are you guys exclusive?
I don't know.
Are you seeing other guys?
Mary, try clicking the empty space at the top on the split.
That should clear it.
No, I'm not.
The darker.
Let's tea.
So you're not seeing other guys.
Is he seeing other girls?
I don't know.
Would you be upset if he was?
Nope.
So you see him making out with some other girl at a frat party or something?
I'd be a little hurt, but I'd be sorry.
Would you still see him, though?
Yeah.
Okay.
He's like one of my closest friends.
Closest friends.
Yeah.
But you're single.
Do you want more?
I don't know.
You don't know?
I'm not sure.
Okay.
You're just riding the wave.
You're just riding the wave.
Just riding the wave.
Okay.
Yeah.
Are you on any dating apps?
Nope, I've never been.
Did you just do the shocka?
All right.
Amy, what about you?
I'm engaged.
All right.
How long have you guys been together?
Well, we worked together at Valutainment for over a year.
We worked on my show for a long time.
We were best friends.
We'd hang out every night planning stuff for my show.
But we started dating August of last year, and then he proposed in October.
So it was pretty quick, but we know each other very well.
Like I said, spent basically every day together for like a year before that.
Nice.
Okay.
And do you guys have a date planned for the wedding?
We're actually going to elope.
I'm not really a big believer in blowing a bunch of money on a wedding.
Kind of just want to start our lives together.
Probably between March to May, we're thinking.
We're just deciding where we want to be long term, where we want to live.
And then we're going to do that.
Yeah.
Well, Arizona's nice.
You moved down to the city.
Yeah, he's currently in Florida still.
And we haven't lived together, by the way.
So since I came on this show, I have taken the Christ pill.
I mean, I was already a Christian, but he's really leading me in that regard.
So like no sex before marriage, not living together, all of that.
That's interesting.
So you guys have been completely celibate?
Oh, wow.
Okay.
You guys definitely.
Are you guys?
What denomination of Christianity?
I'm Catholic.
He's Protestant.
Okay.
Hopefully, I can bring him over to my side.
Bring him over.
He loves Catholic Mass, honestly.
So I go to his church.
He comes to my church.
What kind of Protestant?
Is he like Presbyterian or Bethany?
I think it's more like non-denominational.
He goes to a really chill home church.
There's like maybe 100 people total in the congregation, but on an average night, like 30 to 40.
It's very chill.
Gotcha.
Okay.
All right.
Oh, you get a little red in the sky.
Kind of nice little sunset here.
Nice, nice.
What about you?
I'm exclusive with someone I've been seeing for the past three months.
All right.
So let's say relationship.
Or maybe, well, boyfriend.
Not boyfriend and girlfriend.
But exclusive.
Exclusive, yeah.
All right.
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Longest relationship?
Three years.
Three years.
Who broke up with who?
I broke up with him after finding out that he was seeing one of my friends.
Was it her?
No.
Was it a scouser?
Just the brother.
She was one of my close, like, school friends.
Yeah.
Can you do a scouse?
No, can I forget that?
You don't know how to do scousing.
Like Patty the Buddy.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way.
I was like, how did you know that?
He lost the fight yesterday.
Dana White.
Very disappointed.
You watched the fight?
Yeah, I didn't watch it.
I was going to watch it.
It was a good fight.
It was a good fight, but yeah, Patty just decently contested, I think.
Yeah.
It was a sad fight.
It was a sad fight.
How sad.
The other guy kept poking Patty in the eye.
That's right.
Two eye pokes and then I think there was a low blow that the ref missed.
Oh, yeah, there was kind of unfortunate.
Yeah, he did get it pretty bad.
Was it two eye pokes, I think?
Yeah, there was.
There's two.
Two eye pokes?
Or was it just one?
Those two.
Yeah, damn.
Anyways, yeah, unfortunately, yeah, baddie lost.
What about you?
I'm single.
All right.
How long have you been single for?
My only relationship was a year ago for like four months, but there have been a lot of situationships lately.
August, one year.
Lately.
Is there currently a guy in the picture now?
No.
No.
Okay.
I would say no.
No, not a guy in the picture.
I'm curious.
You know, I was thinking about here.
Actually, I'll let everybody do their intros.
Actually, you know what?
I'll just do it now.
You know, I was thinking like, you ask a girl if she's single.
tells you yes but i i think you can't really i mean this would go both ways if If, you know, you ask a guy if he's single, he tells you yes.
What does that mean?
What does that mean in 2026?
You're not fucking singing.
Oh, I'm single, but I'm like fucking three people.
Okay.
Well, that's helpful.
So I was like thinking, how can you ask the question to get to the bottom of what you're actually looking for?
In my case, if I'm interested in dating somebody, I need her undivided attention immediately.
She can't be like in a situationship talking to 300 dudes.
Like that can't, no.
After the first date, you want to deal with me, it has to be a wrap with the other guys.
I'm not going to deal with you like I'm going to be the fucking third choice or whatever.
No, it has to be a wrap.
So how do you ask the question to make a clear determination?
Because, you know, a girl tells you she's single, right?
Or a guy tells you he's single.
And he's fucking like five chicks or something.
You'd be like, what the fuck?
I mean, I would just ask, like, are you seeing anybody else?
I think you might not be dating.
Yeah, but just asking anyone.
I have a.
Tell me what you guys think of this.
I actually devise a sort of almost legalese method of how you can ask this.
So are you currently talking to, dating?
This would include casual hangouts, seeing, involved with, or maintaining contact with any other men.
Have you seen this face-to-face?
No, I'm not sure.
Whether casually or seriously, online or in person, including, but not limited to, texts, DMs, dating apps, or social media.
That's crazy.
I think that you have to ask that question.
Has this worked for you?
What do you mean?
Has that worked?
Does it work?
It's a new development, so I haven't employed it yet.
But I think that would work.
I think it's too much.
Why would it be too?
Because you're basically, it's like a contract.
Like, are you, you can ask, like, what your intentions are, but like.
Nah, I think you can be fucking someone else.
You got to be really explicit.
I don't think asking for talking or seeing anyone would get the message through.
I agree.
You're either talking, you're either texting, talking to someone, or you're seeing them and you're seeing them in person.
You know, I think the thing is, is people will use a little loophole.
Because in the same way that if I ask a girl if she's single and like all the women here, not all the women here, but we frequently will have people on the show say they're single, but they've been having consistent sex with a guy for a year.
Now, me going in, that I don't want to deal with a girl like that.
Like, I don't want to deal with a girl who's still hung up on her ex, who's still dealing with her ex, who's still fucking her ex, who's fucking one, two, three other guys.
I can't, I don't want any part of that.
Now, she can wrap things up with him and then come talk to me.
Then we can pursue something.
But I don't want to deal with a girl like, I mean, I don't even want to date a girl, but if we're going to have sex and you fucking another guy, no, that's that's I can't do that.
So you just don't enjoy dating.
What do you mean?
You don't you just said I don't want to date a girl?
I don't really date normally.
Oh, uh, so when was your last relationship?
Oh boy, we can get a little bit of a double-blind.
Well, I mean, I mean, you know, I have quite a bit of experience prior to when I started this podcast, but I would say I don't have the typical average guy dating experience anymore.
Can I ask if this show turned you off dating?
I can see that.
I mean, I've had bad, that's a good question, Amy.
I mean, I've had interesting experiences even prior to the show, but I mean, I've heard some pretty crazy things.
I've definitely been red-pilled and blackpilled on a lot of things I've heard on the show.
But no, I mean, I'm still, there's a lot of good women out there.
There's bad women too, but there's a lot of good women.
But I would say, like, honestly, I'm mostly just sourcing.
Like, honestly, girls are just DMing me.
So, like, I have.
So, I just not like, look, I've shot my shot here and there.
I'm not going to.
But I would say the majority of the people I've dated in the past three, four years, they've all approached me.
So, my situation is a bit unique.
I guess you got grippies.
I could see that.
I got grippies.
Grippies?
Grippies.
Grippies.
I thought you were talking about big labia matter.
You like it when the girl does the first move?
Yeah, I'm fine with it.
Yeah.
I mean, how else?
Okay, so if some like hot girl who lives across the country likes me, I'm not going to like randomly manifest knowing who that girl is.
So of course she would have to make the first move.
But I mean, throughout most of my life, I've consistently been the one making the first move.
But now that I'm in a position to be able to source from the girls who pick me, it's actually way better.
It's way better.
But no, if a girl like, I mean, don't, you got to approach it.
You can, a woman can make the first move in like and still be feminine.
And honestly, all she has to really do is, I mean, she should put in a fair amount of effort, right?
But she should, if she just shoots the DM, I can take the lead from there, basically.
So, yeah, I don't find some guys say, I don't even know if it's some guys say.
I think some women think, oh, if I make the first move, it'll be a turn off to the guy, which maybe that's the case sometimes.
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But most men would welcome and invite.
Look, don't be like, hey, want some pussy?
Like, be feminine, be pleasant.
You know, don't be like aggressive about it.
But yeah, I think most guys are totally open to women making the first move.
Let me continue on, though, with everybody.
Relationship status.
Relationship status, single?
Single?
Single.
Longest relationship?
I haven't been in like serious relationships.
Never been in a relationship.
Okay.
Well, how long have you been single?
Since I got to the United States.
Where are you from?
I'm from Bangladesh.
I'm South Asia.
Bangladesh.
Okay.
We have a very international.
We got Russia, Bangladesh, Israel, the UK, Scotland, Australia.
We got more international people.
Yeah.
American-American, American-American.
We outnumber you.
Outnumbered at the table.
Okay.
So you've never had a boyfriend?
No, no, never.
What's the longest period of time you've seen a guy?
Seen a guy longest period of time?
I don't, like it's because of the cultural thing, you know?
We don't really, we just get married.
Wait, when did you move to the U.S.?
When I was 14.
14.
So you've been here for 10 years?
10 years, yes.
Okay.
Do you have citizenship?
Yeah, I do.
Okay, like you got, how's the process?
You get your green card?
So I came here when I was 12 for the first time just to visit the States.
And because I was so young, I got the citizenship in like six months.
And my dad was here for like 20 years or something.
Before, wait.
Okay, so your dad moved here before you moved here?
Yeah, my dad moved here before I was even like born.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so my mom got pregnant and then he just moved here.
Is your mom here?
No, they're in New York.
They're in the U.S., yeah.
And they're both Bangladeshi.
Yeah, they're both family.
But the country used to be East Pakistan when they were like kids, yeah.
Okay, gotcha.
Sorry, longest consecutive period of time you've dated a guy or seen him?
I haven't dated.
Have you gone on a date with a guy?
Yeah, I have been too many dates, yeah.
Okay, well, what's the longest life?
Have I spoken to someone?
Yeah, like a month, two months, three months?
I kept in touch with everyone.
So we're all friends, I guess you would say.
Well, okay, I understand that some women maintain men in the friend zone.
But what I'm asking you is the longest period of time that you've hold on.
You could say three, four months.
The max.
Three, four months, yes.
Okay.
Have you ever said I love you to anybody?
No.
To a guy, anyways.
Are you a virgin?
No, I have two kids.
Guy, I can tell them.
Just kids.
That's all.
Two different fathers?
No, they're the same father.
White guy?
No, he's black.
Black guy.
I'm from Miami, so we only have black and Hispanic.
Oh, there's white guys.
Well, there is.
Some white guys, maybe.
Where I'm from, where I'm from, I mostly encounter Hispanic and black guys.
What part of Miami?
I am from Miami, Dade.
I cannot say exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's totally fine.
Okay, so you have two kids with the same guy, but you just said you've only seen.
We're just hooking up.
So pregnancy takes nine months.
If you have two kids from the same guy, wouldn't it stand to reason that this man was in the picture for at least 10 months now?
he was in the picture for a couple of years yeah but you said you've only but we're not like we're not exclusive That's what I'm saying.
We're not exclusive.
We just have children together.
Okay, but here, when did, you're 24.
At what age did you meet him?
20 when I was 20.
When I graduated college.
Okay, when's the last time you hung out with him?
I see him all the time.
I mean, I have kids with him.
Did you live with him?
Yes, I do live with him.
It's just so we can co-parent.
Okay, when's the last time you had sex with him, I guess?
I can't answer that question.
That is super personal.
I'm sorry.
That is super personal.
Aren't you an OnlyFans girl?
I mean, isn't this pretty tough?
Hey, different personality you have to deal with, right?
That's part of the twin.
Well, but I mean, I'm trying to establish here.
The reason I ask a question, I don't frankly don't ask.
Don't ask away.
Ask away.
But it's like you said.
It was before this birth of my son, which my son was born in March last year.
So were you on birth control?
When I was pregnant?
I literally was pregnant last year.
Well, but like when you were having sex with men, were you pregnant on birth control?
No, no.
So, okay.
And Like, was it like an unintended, unplanned pregnancy, or were you just letting this?
No, I didn't want kids.
I wanted kids early.
I wanted to be a young mom.
Hold on.
So she could be a good example for her kids, right?
Being on the fonts model.
Exactly that.
Who?
Wait, so okay.
So you live in the same house with the father?
No, we're not having sex if that's what you're talking about.
No, I'm moving off the middle.
Okay, we're moved on a bit.
Do you not want a relationship with the guy?
I'm a bit confused.
relationships are not simple you know so but at no point um what do your your bangladeshi parents think of your situation They just really don't care.
They give me the independence to pick who I want to be with.
They're pretty supportive over it.
As long as I'm good and happy, that's all they care about.
They're not like the typical super strict things.
You'll have to excuse my ignorance.
Are Bangladeshis, are they Hindu or are they Muslims?
So let me explain this.
So Bangladesh is in the south of Asia.
You know where that is, right?
Asia is a continent.
Like Chinese, Japanese people, they're like East Asian, I believe.
So we're on the South of Asia, and the South of Asia has three countries, I believe.
It's like India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.
So like the whole thing used to be India, and then it divided into India and Pakistan for religious reason, I believe, because Indians are Hindus.
Indians, India is like a Hindu-based country, and Pakistan is like Muslims.
I'm just asking if you're Hindu or I don't need that.
Okay, okay.
Are you Hindu?
Are you Muslim?
Are you focusing on the people?
I don't follow like a particular religion, but I do believe I'm culturally Muslim, culturally, because I celebrate, you know, with my family.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, but you don't.
I don't really know.
I know the religion.
Not by the book, no.
Okay.
All right.
Okay, two kids.
And the co-parenting is going well?
Very well.
Co-Parenting and Support00:10:13
Okay.
All right.
Do you want more kids?
I do, but since they're babies right now, I can't really think of any more kids.
But I originally wanted four before I did.
All right.
What about you?
I have been with my husband for 15 years, and we will be celebrating our 14th wedding anniversary in the spring.
And we have three kids.
Congratulations.
So teaching.
All right.
Three, two.
I assume that's your longest relationship.
Three kids.
All right.
I'm assuming the three kids are from your husband.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
What about you?
So I'm single now.
I was married for the last 11 years with American men.
And we get divorced last year.
So you've been single for one year?
A little less than a year.
Okay.
And you were married for 11 years, you said?
Officially 10, but.
Together.
Yeah, but together.
Is this your longest relationship?
Okay.
And then when did you move to the United States?
It was 2015.
2015.
So okay, you've been here.
10 years.
Yeah, I do have my citizenship.
Through your husband?
Of course.
Yeah, American men bring me here.
And then you divorced him.
Yeah.
No, I didn't divorce.
I mean, it was not my choice.
Who initiated the divorce?
So.
It was our decision.
So he just How about this on the paperwork who initiated the divorce?
Me.
Okay.
What was the cited reason for the divorce?
Just well, we've been together for so long, and we just start realizing that we have, we start having, like, last couple years, we start having different goals.
And he wants to do his thing.
Which was what?
What did he want to do?
I don't know if I can talk about him because I don't want him to feel uncomfortable because I respect him and I love him.
We are best friends, actually.
Like, we.
Do you have kids?
Yes, we have a daughter.
She's going to be nine.
Okay.
No other kids, though?
No, no, just one child.
I see.
And we would say he's my best friend, Justin.
I know you're watching this.
And I'm happy that we have such a decent relationship.
I'm so proud of our marriage and the way how we handle our separation.
I still love you, you, my family.
Okay.
Does he pay you alimony?
Yeah, of course.
It's just American laws.
He has to pay.
Well, does he, are you guys living in the same city?
Well, he's visiting us in Denver every once in a while, but he's traveled a lot for work.
Where does he live?
State.
You don't have to stay in the state.
Arkansas.
Arkansas.
So he's pretty conservative.
I mean, I don't know.
When did you move to Colorado?
A few months ago.
That summer.
So you have full custody of your child?
No, it's not whole custody.
It's 50-50.
But you guys live in a different state.
Wait.
Yeah.
Isn't Arkansas like way the fuck?
Hold on, let me pull up a map of it.
Sorry, it's just Arkansas is not my bread and butter.
It's on the border of Texas.
It's really on the border of Texas.
Hold on.
Just map USA.
Sorry.
My geography.
Sorry, Arkansas.
I don't fucking remember where we are.
Have you ever been in Arkansas?
Yeah, Colorado.
You don't know your own time.
Colorado.
Yeah, okay.
I knew the general location of Arkansas.
It's a bit that way of Kansas.
So, okay, but it's like, what?
It's a plane fly away, you know?
So how often does he see the kid or will see the kid, I guess?
Every month, I would say.
Once a month?
Maybe a little bit.
Did he want you to stay, or what happened there?
Where?
Like, stay.
Ah, no.
Because obviously, if you've got a kid, it complicates the custody.
He doesn't want to stay in Arkansas.
His residence was there, but since he traveled a lot, and he's working most of the time at this area, because he's working in an oil industry, working in an oil industry.
So he's like a blue collar man.
And he's working like Wyoming, Colorado, pretty much this area.
So when I decided to move to Colorado, he said, actually, it was because of his job.
When we get divorced, he's like, hey, you know, I know you love mountains, so you want to go to Colorado.
So you're going to have a place there.
And I can see Kaya and I can spend time with her because I'm going to work there and you're going to be there and I can see y'all everyone.
I was like, sure, yeah.
And that's what I did.
Interesting.
Okay.
Huh.
Okay.
So he pays you child support and alimony.
Yeah.
Was he a like, is he a wealthy guy?
Was or now?
Both, I guess.
When we married, he was not a wealthy guy.
He was in the military and he actually quit the military and he was like, he didn't have a job for a while.
Then he go to his academy and got his whatever.
And then the curious about the alimony.
So is he, how long does he have to pay you alimony for?
It's, I think it's a three and a half years or something, or four.
I don't remember.
Three and a half, four, four years.
Okay.
Four.
Not longer.
Because I know, I think once you've been married for a long enough period of time, I think sometimes you might even have to pay for life even, which no, I don't think so.
No, it only he can pay me for life if I would be disabled, which I'm not.
But if I start dating, no, not dating.
I think if I get remarried again, so he will stop.
Like if I'm going to remarry the next four years, so you're not going to pay me alimony anymore.
Oh, if you get remarried.
Yeah, yeah.
So he's not going to pay anymore.
How much does he pay you per month?
I'm not going to say that because I cannot.
We have some kind of we sign contract.
Yes, we sign that and I cannot talk about that.
Huh.
You make him sign that.
Yeah, yeah, I get it.
NDA or whatever.
It's not like something crazy.
I mean, it's okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know about the alimony.
I don't think people should pay alimony.
You don't think?
Why?
No.
No, it's like.
No, he's paying me because I'm a wife, right?
And yeah, I agree because why would he pay me?
You're looking after the child.
Well, child support.
Child support and alimony.
Or is it definitely?
Well, child support is something different.
So, for example, you could be married and never have children and still have to pay the other person alimony.
Yeah.
A child?
Not even that.
What actually is alimony, though?
So alimony is, it's another term for it is spousal support.
Say you've been married to somebody for 10 years.
Whether you have children or not, whoever makes the most money, you would have to pay the other person spousal support for months, years, and it often depends on how long you've been married.
I personally think...
What?
Is this her every moment?
That's not true.
Like everyone?
Pretty much.
I think because there's a lot of women that don't work when they're in a relationship with a guy, and then once they break up, then they're left with nothing.
So sometimes, but I've, you know.
Look, I think I have heard some, there are some instances where you could make the argument that alimony is justified.
But the current laws, it's basically, it doesn't even factor in situations where, for example, let's say a woman, you get married to her, and say she's a lawyer, and she maintains her career through the course of the marriage, and she doesn't like stop or anything to take care of the husband, and you never have kids.
You've been married for 10 years.
She marries a guy who makes $5 million a year.
She's going to get a fuck ton of alimony, even though she was essentially just in a relationship with a guy.
That's completely bullshit.
There is a compelling argument to be made in an instance where, okay, she gave up her career and she stopped going to college and she wasn't working at all and she didn't do anything to develop these skills.
Even then, I'm still a little on the fence with alimony, but like at least it's compelling to the point where it's like it kind of makes sense a little bit.
Like, okay, help the woman out.
But it's like, in some instances, it's like that's kind of bullshit.
Yeah, I agree.
And then also, it's like, what if she just ends the marriage just out of the marriage?
Well, if she cheats.
Yeah, if she cheats, you still pay alimony.
Wow.
That is not a thing.
The laws are really rigged against men, and honestly, it's put society in a place where men really don't want to get married, especially to American women, unfortunately.
Yep.
And so I think that's why you're seeing prenups become a lot more common.
I'm going to sign a prenup.
I'm more than happy to do it.
We're going to structure it so that my fiancé owns the YouTube business too because we left to go independent.
He makes substantially more than me.
But we're building up my YouTube together now.
And so we're going to position it so that he essentially owns that.
And not because we ever planned to separate, but just so he has that peace of mind.
I never want him to worry.
That's good.
That's crazy, though.
Oath of Allegiance00:15:17
I didn't know you guys did that either.
There might be some.
I don't know that either.
We have children.
Yes, they don't have that in Russia.
Nobody pay element of school.
They're only paying child support.
That's it.
Same as the UK.
Yeah.
Yeah, the United States is completely cooked on this.
I mean, there's, there's.
It's totally school.
What's that?
Why do they not teach this?
Yeah.
Because it would incentivize women to probably do it more.
And a lot of women marry for that reason, to be honest.
Like, they really are getting married for the wrong reason so that they can rip a guy off.
Did you guys hear about it?
It was like that, he was like an NFL player, some type of professional athlete, and essentially she married him, divorced him to try to take half of his assets, but he had structured it in a way where everything went through his mother.
It was all in his mother's name, and so she got nothing in the end.
I know what you're talking about.
Good for him.
Good for him, honestly.
He was protecting his assets.
I mean, yeah, it's like, look, she wasn't kicking the field goals.
She wasn't.
Who was it?
Yeah, why should she kick him?
I think it was a soccer player.
So he wasn't kicking the soccer ball.
Football.
Fox.
Soccer ball.
Football.
Yeah.
Well, because we have some international people here who, but just curious, like, you have your U.S. citizenship, right?
Yeah, you said you got in like six months.
I do have a question I want to ask related to this.
Okay, hold on.
Let me pull it up.
I don't want to like fuck it up.
Actually, first, while I'm trying to find it.
Oh, no, I got it.
Okay.
So I guess I can also ask the United States citizens.
How about this?
I'll ask the international people first.
Well, international people who like live here.
So in a morally neutral, blame-free hypothetical conflict between the United States and the country of your birth, the country of your origin, let's say where neither side is right or wrong.
To which country is your allegiance starting with you?
My mother told me that they're going to ask you about it on this podcast.
Wow.
She was right.
I was like, mom, why would they bring politics?
Anyway, I'm American citizen and my child is American citizen.
And my husband, I mean, ex-husband, also American.
I love Russia.
This is my motherland.
But you just, you ask me, I have to choose between them between.
If you had to pick one.
This isn't to say that.
Well, yeah, just answer, I guess.
That's hard.
I don't think.
Are you a citizen of the United States?
Yes, I am.
Now, did you naturalize?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
Here, let's come back to you.
What about you?
I'd say the United States.
The United States.
Yeah, and that's because this is where, you know, I found the best quality of life.
Okay.
So I would.
So the U.S. going to war with Bangladesh.
Fucking dropping nukes and shit.
No, I'm just kidding.
Not nukes.
So, okay, you side with the United States.
I would side with the strongest army.
Okay.
The country that has the strongest army yet.
What about you?
Israel and the United States are friends, so I hope they never.
Well, luckily in this situation, hypotheticals alleviate the need to.
Oh my God, am I going to be autistic about this?
Because the hypothetical alleviates the need to consider what the current state of affairs are between the United States and Israel.
So in this hypothetical, there happens to be a conflict between the United States and Israel.
In this circumstance, to which country is your allegiance?
And do you have the United States citizenship?
Yeah, my parents are American, so I am American citizen as well, but my family is in Israel currently, so I guess I would go for where my family is.
But also depends on the reason of the war.
What makes more sense?
Well, so again, in the hypothetical, it's a morally neutral, blank free.
No reason.
So, Israel.
Okay.
Don't hit on me.
You have your U.S. citizenship?
Working on residency, but I'm America first, 100%.
Australia has been crazying up to China for quite some time.
It is slowly descending into a socialist hellhole.
And I truly believe that the freedom of the West rises and falls on the United States.
America first.
Well played.
So you would just, if you could join the military, Amy, you just go over there and like fuck up a bunch of kangaroos?
I don't think women should serve in the military.
Okay, that's fair.
You would.
But I side with America 100% in every instance.
I love Australia.
I love my home country.
But unfortunately, it has been hijacked by international interests.
Fortunately, United States, kind of the same, but I hope that it does not stay that way.
Do we get rid of Perth first, or what do you think?
Why Perth?
I don't know.
I feel like.
I was actually born in Perth, so it's funny you say that.
Do we get rid of like Brisbane?
Brisbane?
Brisbane first?
Where do we get rid of first if we do go to war with Australia?
Like the strategically?
The Northern Territory.
Listen, the Northern Territory out in the middle of nowhere.
Bomber's rock.
I'm not sure.
What do you think?
Okay, whatever.
Going back to you, what's your answer?
Russia or the United States?
No, I cannot do that.
Why I have to pick one?
You have to pick.
You got to pick one.
What if I will not pick?
You got to pick.
well okay how about this could it be i think it's actually conceivable that you know within the next 10 20 30 40 years there is major military conflict between the uh major powers in the world uh i could see a conflict with china I could see a conflict with Russia.
Let me ask a question.
Why did you leave Russia?
Because I fell in love with American men, and that's why.
And I being a traditional woman, I would say, and kind of, I don't know, I don't want to say submissive, but anyway, he's my husband.
So whatever he decides, and we go to America.
Not because of that.
So what's your answer, though?
If you had to pick.
I mean, do you have plan, like, you're going to go.
Do you go back to Russia?
When's the last time you've been in Russia?
Last year, I spent six months.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so which one?
Can I not pick, please?
Well, obviously I can't force you to say anything.
I can ask you again.
America Oh, okay.
A little hesitation there.
Mary, really quick, pull up the allegiance thing, the Wikipedia.
Just really quick.
The oath of allegiance.
As a reminder, naturalized citizens, in order to become citizens of the United States, need to take this oath.
Can you mouse wheel, zoom in a little bit?
Oh, actually, you know what?
Yeah, just zoom out.
I hereby declare on oath that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen.
That I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law.
That I will perform.
Anyways, you get the idea.
But basically, you have to renounce, not just them.
I guess I should say the right thing, which is Russia.
I don't know, your hesitation there.
Lol, you know, you did have to give the oath.
Did you do that oath?
Remember the oath?
Because it depends on who you married.
That's it.
Wait, what?
Well, you still have to do the oath, right?
Did you do the oath?
Okay, yeah.
Did you take the oath?
I'm fucking spitting over here shouldn't you shouldn't you just immediately yeah but I have a dual citizenship right I have two passports.
I have America.
That didn't stop you when you're going to actually secure your citizenship to the U.S. When you put your hand on the Constitution, and I assume it's a Constitution, or maybe they use a Bible.
I'm not really sure.
You probably said it quite freely then.
I don't know.
Just kind of interesting to notice.
I don't think it means anything, to be honest with you, because it just doesn't mean anything.
Bureaucracy is going to be aware of that.
Get that fuck out of our country.
That's crazy.
It doesn't mean anything.
The oath of allegiance doesn't mean anything.
By virtue of you saying the oath of allegiance, that is precisely what has granted you the ability to access the prosperity of our nation.
Back to Babushka, Russia, you go.
So what is my responsibility?
Okay, let me ask you this.
What is my responsibility as American citizen?
What should I do?
I mean, it literally says you need to even fire a gun if they require you to.
I'm not going to fire guns.
Oh, you have to fire a gun.
They can force you.
But let's say you forced me to fire a gun.
The government can definitely force you to do things.
I was born with American citizenship.
I didn't have to do anything for it.
Well, so the oath of allegiance doesn't apply to you because you were born with an American citizenship.
However, in order to naturalize, you have to make an affirmative oath of allegiance to the United States.
So all these immigrants who come here from all these countries, if you want to naturalize, you want to gain citizenship, you have to, you read that oath.
Like there's a ceremony where you read it.
I think you put your hand.
I don't know if they do the hand thing.
That's kind of secondary.
But I didn't do it, so I never agreed to it.
Were you born here?
Well, no, my parents aren't.
So there is a, so, but I'm not really making this argument for, well, just born citizens, because you're right.
You don't have to make an oath as a citizen.
You should, as a matter of fact, if you do live here most of your life, or well, year and a half.
All right, I mean, look, it makes sense.
But my argument, as it relates to the oath of allegiance, wouldn't apply to you.
However, you're not going to be able to tell me it doesn't apply to her.
Right, but I'm good.
It should apply to her.
I'm not talking to you.
I'm talking to naturalized U.S. citizens or immigrants.
Right, I agree.
And it's like, how is it that y'all want to move here?
Y'all want to live here?
You do live here.
You enjoy the benefits of the prosperity of this nation, the benefits of the freedom of this nation, but you lie.
You lie on the oath?
Right.
Or you're milquetoast about it.
That's fucked up, man.
Milk toast.
It's crazy.
I'm just saying.
Israel gets an exception.
What do you mean?
Like, it's just fascinating that, you know, you didn't go through the same process.
I understand my parents are from here.
My parents are American.
Yeah.
That's how it works.
Well, that would you have citizenship.
That would apply to you.
My grandparents are American.
Any country, anyway.
Oh, any country.
Well, you were born here in the U.S., right?
No.
She was born in U.S.
I was born in Israel.
I moved here only a year and a half.
Your parents are American citizens.
Yeah.
Yeah, so she, if you're born overseas, but both your parents are American citizens, like she's not an immigrant.
She was born overseas.
For example, I wasn't born in the U.S.
I was born in France.
But both, well, my mom, at least, is an American citizen.
But I was immediately not.
I had to go through paperwork and stuff still.
But I'm not.
Yeah, I was basically a citizen, but you know, for example, let's say you were born on a military base in another country.
Both your parents are American citizens.
You are an American citizen, even if you're born.
So if France and America goes to war, you'll take America's side.
Yeah, yeah.
But to be clear, though, that's not to say that, for example, if France went to war with another European country, that I maybe wouldn't prefer, that I would, you know, side with the other country.
But yes, even though I was born in France, America first.
America first, absolutely.
I was born in France.
I lived there for five years.
Look, I want good things for France.
France and many other European countries are in really bad shape right now.
I know we got into this last time, but these European countries are completely being taken over.
No, they're completely the completely being taken over.
And I want good things for France.
And I hope, you know, all these European countries, France included, can get that shit figured out because I don't, I don't, I remember when I went to the Eiffel Tower as a kid, there weren't military, there wasn't military posted up with.
There's always been military at the Eiffel Tower.
No, there weren't like gender Marie and police posted up at the Eiffel Tower.
There's always been military at the airport, at Eiffel Tower Airport.
They're France.
Always.
Really?
You're an expert on the military status of yes, but I go to Paris quite a lot.
How old are you?
I'm 27.
Okay, so I'm 36.
So when I was a kid, so this is back in the 90s, going to the Eiffel Tower, there were not all these military people stationed everywhere with firearms because the Eiffel Tower would be a very desirable place, let's say, for a terrorist attack.
So when I was a kid, that wasn't the case.
But do you think that's because of immigrants?
Do you think that's because of emigrants?
Would you not argue that the you think native, just to be clear, Charlie Hebdo, was it like French?
Well, I guess a lot of these people immigrated and then their kids could have been born in France.
Let's say like the best term I would use, native French.
Do you think the perpetrators of the Charlie Hebdo attack were like 10th generational Frenchmen?
No, but you could argue as well that even like in the United States, your security levels, your gun levels, everything went up after 9-11.
What does that have to do with that?
So like, obviously there's going to be more security at public places after more tragedies happen.
It's not because there's emigrants there.
It's just because more bad things happen in the world.
Because there's more immigrants.
But not all crime is for immigrants.
Most.
Yeah.
So there's a lot of cultures that are just fundamentally incompatible with the West.
And that has had a very detrimental effect over many of these countries.
I disagree.
Especially not Scotland.
Different Opinions, Deadly Consequences00:11:45
No immigrant problem in Scotland.
What about that girl?
Go and fill up your stuff.
Excuse me.
What about that young girl who was 14 years old who had to wield a weapon to get immigrants away from her, who was sexually harassing her and her sister?
Is this in Scotland?
Yes, it was in Scotland.
Have you been to England recently?
Yes, I'm pretty sure.
And you don't see what's going on there?
No, so England's national dish has always been chicken tikka masala.
We've always had immigrants.
We've always been okay with immigrants.
There's no problem with immigrants in the UK.
It's just propaganda.
They're taking over.
That's propaganda.
They're not taking over.
They're not.
Especially.
I'm not from England.
I don't give a fuck about England.
I don't care anything to do with England.
Never have.
Scotland has no immigrant problem.
There was actually people tried to protest against immigrants in Glasgow.
And I think maybe five people showed up and thousands showed up opposing them.
We are fine with that.
I don't know about Scotland, but I'm talking about England.
I like Indian food too.
That doesn't mean that there isn't invasions occurring in all of these countries.
Literally, a young 14-year-old girl had to brandish a weapon to get these immigrants away from trying to rape her in her central.
She's a shit.
Can we talk about how many rape cases happen in Scotland and happen in Ireland and happen in England that are white men that don't go on record?
But because one thing happened with one thing?
Have you heard about the grooming gangs in the UK?
Of course I have.
Do you know the biggest grooming gang in London is white people?
And those are the people who end up getting prosecuted.
And in fact, when you look at the records of several of these immigrants, they actually put them down as white or some other culture to mess with the statistics of it.
No, this is very much the biggest pedophile gang in London were white people.
Okay, but are you denying that there's Pakistani grooming gangs in the UK?
And you know what?
Right now in the UK, there are people who are literally being arrested for posting about these grooming gangs, for calling out these people, these child abusers.
We live there.
We live there, girl.
This is all propaganda that they sell to you guys.
Listen, I'm there.
I've posted shit against hundreds of people.
I've never been arrested.
Do you know why these people are being arrested?
There's been over 1,200 arrests.
Someone was arrested because they said, you know what?
The immigrants live in this hotel.
Let's go put it on fire.
It's not about doxing them.
No.
She went on fire.
That's why she was.
No, you're more likely to actually cop a charge for speaking out about this versus the person who's perpetrating the crime.
You have so much cognitive dissonance right now.
It's insane.
And I can speak personally from Australia.
I have not been there in 10 years, but my family is there.
People are there.
And there was actually a video that circulated, I believe it was on New Year's in Sydney, with thousands of people walking around.
And you are hard-pressed to spot out an Australian person, a white Australian in that group.
No, it's true.
It's diluting culture.
And there are cultures that are fundamentally incompatible because in some religions, they believe it's okay to have sex with girls who are underage.
They think it's okay to, you know, take all of this government assistance.
So is it just the people of different skin tone that you're having issue with?
Not necessarily the Irish people.
It's people.
The Scottish people.
It's the cultures.
It's the cultures that are fundamentally incompatible.
Religiously, sexually, in many other ways as well.
So just like Muslims?
Not just Muslims.
I would say that it's any culture that essentially thinks it's okay to.
I would like to argue that there's so many different people in different cultures.
There's so many Christians that are awful people.
There's so many Muslims that are awful people.
There's Sikhs that are awful people.
Yeah, but there's percentage.
Like you can tell what is more.
What about gun crime in America?
White Christians.
It's percentage?
The most gun crimes are perpetrated by black people, actually.
Look at the percentage.
It's not a white.
What about school shootings?
White people.
What did you say, sorry?
What about school shittins?
White people.
I mean, usually those people are jacked up on SSRIs or they're like trannies.
And I also have a huge problem with them as well.
So we can talk about that too.
Is that true?
Yes, it is.
I mean, there's so many different examples.
Most of the people are either jacked up on SSRIs or it's a trans.
I mean, even look at Charlie Kirk shooter.
If you believe the official narrative, it was the boyfriend of a furry.
It was somebody from the LGBTQ community.
And they've gone.
It's true.
Do you not know about this?
I don't even know if I believe the official narrative, but the story that they are feeding us because it's so believable.
Yeah.
A furry?
Furry.
What do you say?
F in LGBTQ.
No.
So it's not part.
Well, they're one, they were gay together.
It was a man and a man, and the boyfriend of the murderer of Charlie Kirk Tyler Robinson was with a guy called Lance Figry.
I think that he's ridiculous.
Yes, the official narrative.
Yes, the official narrative is that they took issue with Charlie Kirk's stance against the LGBT community.
That is the narrative that's being fed to us.
And the reason why they're feeding us that is because it's so believable because so many school shootings are in fact perpetrated and shootings in general are in fact perpetrated by people from the LGBTQ community.
It's true.
I'm sorry.
It's true.
I'm not going to argue with you that gay people love guns.
Like, that's crazy.
I mean, Americans in general love guns.
We have the Second Amendment.
And thank goodness.
I mean, Australia lost the right to bear arms in the 90s.
And that was a huge mistake.
The fact that someone has to go and shoot someone just because he has different opinions is crazy.
That is crazy.
You guys shouldn't be able to do that.
No, you shouldn't.
I'm not saying that that grants you the right to shoot someone because they have a different opinion.
You have the right to bear arms to defend yourself.
I'm just saying.
Why are you so bothering me?
Why are you like spewing rhetoric that makes no sense?
Your level of cognitive dissonance is insane.
And in Scotland, there was one singular school shooting, okay?
One in the 90s.
After that school shooting, no more guns.
Okay.
Okay, but now just young 14-year-old girls need to defend themselves with knives against these immigrants.
So I mean, they're tracking myself.
What a fucking person, mate.
Do you know how many white boys rape in Scotland?
Do you know how many white boys rape and kill in Scotland and rape and kill in Ireland?
I mean, and obviously, England is not.
I'm not citizen.
That's like a what about?
It's got a what about is exactly?
Yes, it is, but just because, like you can't argue with one stat that because one immigrant, one lady, a one little girl had to fight off an immigrant, obviously it's reflective of a broader problem in the society.
There's not, there's genuinely.
I could show you pictures of like of Glasgow, and it's literally Palestine flags with Scotland flags mixed together.
We're so fine with immigrants, we're so fine with all that.
We don't care, don't?
I don't care about England, England's maybe a different story.
Don't take anything.
No idea, bro.
You support Palestine.
Countries are flying.
I do support Palestine really, I take in Palestine.
Do you think if you would walk like that, though?
I just don't think people should die in a world.
What do you think if you would walk like that?
What would they do?
If you walk like that in Israel, no one would do anything.
I wouldn't go to Israel.
I wouldn't go to Palestine.
I wouldn't go to these places.
Why not?
So how can you say you should die?
How can you have an opinion if you wouldn't even go and visit there?
Because I can have an opinion without anywhere.
Respectfully, you don't know what you're saying if you weren't there.
I've literally been.
I'm just saying I don't think anyone should die.
I don't think Israelis should die.
I don't think Palestinians should die.
Of course, but there's much more.
There's much more to it than dying.
Like, of course, no one wants to die.
You know, like, it's not legal anywhere, but it's a diversity.
I'm saying to kill someone.
I'm saying you can't take a side if you don't know enough about the conflict.
I know.
I know some stuff.
I'm fine with taking Palestine's side.
I just feel like Western cultures have been propagandized to accept these things out of empathy.
And in fact, I think, was it Charlie Kirk?
No, it wasn't.
But somebody termed it like suicidal empathy.
That's what we have, where we feel so sorry for these marginalized groups of people to the point that it's to our detriment.
So we feel sorry for people dying in a war?
That's what we're saying.
We really had people dying in the war.
Yeah, that's horrible.
So why are you taking Palestine's side?
I'm just taking Palestine's side.
Why?
Because I feel like I want to take Palestine's side.
I don't want to get into it because obviously, like, I'm in America, right?
You guys.
Well, they have different.
People in Scotland have different opinions.
It's just hard to hear you take a side without having information about it.
That's absolutely fine.
There's also a difference between a war and a genocide.
Yeah.
And it's not a genocide.
Well, that's.
I've agreed with everything else you've said up until this point, but on that, I fundamentally disagree.
Gaza has been essentially wiped off the map.
It has.
It's a genocide.
It's not a genocide.
It is.
There's no.
I mean, a lot of leaders on the world stage have now called it out as a genocide.
Bibi Netanyahu is a wanted international war criminal.
In fact, many of these countries have said that if he goes there, they will simply arrest him.
Scotland is one of them.
Sir, I agree with you on everything else you said.
I agree with you on that thing that you just said, but maybe it's getting a little bit too political for a dating show.
I'm not sure.
No, he wants us.
He loves this.
You like this, Brian?
Not really.
Okay, shall we talk about dating?
I have a lot to say, but I don't think this is the topic.
Would any of you guys.
We can have different opinions.
That's absolutely.
I have a question.
Very important.
Would you guys have sex with Vladimir Putin to prevent World War III?
For sure.
Very important.
Absolutely.
I would definitely have to.
You do love an older man.
You do it for free.
Chairman.
Go ahead.
Oh, no, I wasn't saying anything.
I wasn't saying anything.
No, she's saying that.
She's asking you the question.
No.
What type of a question is this?
I would if it was to prevent World War III.
W, next.
I mean, yeah.
Kind of have to.
Yeah.
I mean, I have to.
Listen, World War III means like nuclear weapons and the whole world will fundamentally cease to exist.
Like human beings will go extinct, I believe.
It's a high probability if we go into World War III.
So I guess with the permission of my husband, I mean, this is insane, though.
This is a crazy question.
How would your husband feel about that?
Well, that's what I'd say.
It would be with his.
Do you think he would?
I don't.
It's hard to say.
I don't think I can speak for him, but the stakes are so high right now.
It's either infidelity, which is a sin in the Bible, or it's save the world.
The world is.
Let's say you're single.
Pretend you're single.
If I was single?
I guess.
That's such a crazy question, though, girl.
Oh, my gosh.
You're saving the world though.
You gotta fight God.
You can be the hero of our time.
Yeah, you could be.
There is no situation that this would actually happen.
It's such a ridiculous hypothetical.
Yeah.
Ollie, would you like to be able to do that?
But why Vladimir Putin?
Why he?
I don't think it depends on him.
Because I said Trump last time and I just wanted to switch it up.
Okay.
Russia's kind of base though, to be honest.
I mean, they said that they want to bring more Christian immigrants to Russia, which is interesting.
And they're actually expelling all Satanists from Russia, which is pretty cool.
Why Make It Illegal?00:05:32
They made it actually illegal to be a Satanist over there.
So W Russia.
Someone who's in the church of Satan.
We actually saw one today when I was at a coffee shop with my fiancé earlier.
It was a woman wearing a shirt with ball on it, like satanic imagery, and it said, not today, Jesus.
And she literally looked like she was under demonic possession.
So W Russia for that, honestly.
That's kind of cool.
Well, Russia banned a lot of stuff, like LGBT, transgenderism, based.
Something else.
Like, there's lots of stuff that could be illegal here in the United States is illegal in Russia.
And I mean, fundamentally, you know, we have First Amendment, we have freedom to speech, we have freedom in the U.S.
And I think that that is great.
I don't think that things should necessarily be legally imposed.
I wouldn't want that necessarily here in the U.S., but I think it should be socially discouraged, and there should be a lot more shame around these things.
I think we need to bring shame back due to the suicidal empathy that I was mentioning a little bit earlier.
Well, you think you have freedom of speech here?
Much more than any other country in the world.
I mean, even in Australia, they have now started arresting people.
They've imposed hate speech laws following the Bondi Beach shooting that happened out there.
It's now illegal to speak poorly of any Israeli citizen or any Israel in general, actually.
What do you think about that, by the way?
Do you think it should be illegal to speak negatively about Israel or Bibi Netanyahu?
don't know how you can control what people will speak but the terrorist attack that happened there was insane like but do you it's not something you should just well it was a false flag but do you think that it should therefore result in people not being able to say anything negative about israel Like, for example, if what she was saying earlier about Free Palestine, she sides with the Palestinians, I said that the war is actually a genocide.
Do you think that should be illegal to say?
Yes, because it's not true.
But I don't think you can control what people will say.
But you think you should be able to.
You should be able to what?
Control what people say.
Because you just said you think it should be illegal for people to speak about BB or say that the war is a genocide.
Or do you just feel like it should be socially discouraged?
I feel like everyone could have their own opinion, but I feel like it's wrong to think that when you don't have enough information.
What if you do have enough information?
If you think that you don't have enough information.
I mean, there's also an argument to be made about people who've been propagandized.
And obviously, the United States is best friends with Israel.
I live in Israel.
I know what's going on there.
Do you just live in Palestine?
Scotland.
And you were like, that's not true.
I didn't say about Scotland.
I said about England.
I don't know what's happening.
But you also don't live in England.
I've been to England.
So do you have enough information to say that?
Have you been?
No, but if you've lived in England, I've been to England.
I don't have enough information to say that.
Well, if you've been to Palestine, even if you didn't live there, I would accept more, but you don't, we weren't even there.
I think the thousands of women and children who were brutally murdered in Gaza and the West Bank, by the way, would probably disagree with you if they were still here.
All right, where were we?
Vladimir Putin?
Sex chair fiber whatever?
To say, to prevent me.
I already said, yeah, I set up for you.
Nice skip.
We're not allowed to have sex before marriage, so it's kind of like in Judaism, it's not an option, really.
Okay.
Even if the world depended on it, well, that wouldn't happen.
I mean, that was my argument too, but I was forced to answer.
I don't feel like God would do such a thing.
Me either, but I was forced to answer too.
Is it my turn?
But you're not Funkum.
No.
No, not like...
You can say no.
Like, you're so bad.
I'm saying because I don't want it to sound like I don't care.
Of course, I wouldn't want to save the world, but it's against your relationship.
It's against my religion.
It's also a sin in the Bible to be, you know, to have infidelity and to cheat.
Right?
I don't do that.
Yeah, no, and I don't either.
And Christians don't either.
But.
I mean, if the world was literally going to end, you'd a nuclear explosion.
Right.
I can't say I would go against my religion.
It's okay.
That's fine.
Let him die.
We're all dead.
So.
Wait, sorry.
Did you want to add something?
No, I think I've added enough.
I would definitely do it if, like, you know, my vagina can let the people live.
Let it be that.
Let it be that.
Period.
Turn that.
Yeah.
So the answer is yes.
I would.
Hell yeah.
What about you?
That would be my husband's decision, and I don't speak for him.
So.
But if you were single?
That is super hard because I have known my husband since I was 13.
So I don't even know what to do before him.
You know?
It's just like a hypothetical question.
Hypothetically, I guess if you had to protect all of us, like all the children, all the women, all the men and the children of the world, it's up to you.
Sure.
Wow, that was lively there while I was gone from the table.
Okay.
That was an interesting thing.
Protecting All Of Us00:05:09
You're pumped up.
That was an interesting convo.
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Oh, yeah, you're definitely right.
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Ice Agent Deporting00:03:44
This is sort of dating related or whatever.
Speaking of immigration, I guess.
Would you date an ICE agent?
You're so problematic.
No.
No?
No.
Is that no?
Okay.
What about?
I don't think so.
Maybe just explain why, I guess.
I don't support what they're doing.
So why would I?
What's specifically?
Why would I want to date Mary somebody?
Yeah, date, Mary, hook up, whatever you want to do, I guess.
I just say no, I don't support what they're doing.
What specifically do you not support?
I don't support what ICE is doing.
But like, so I think there can be, for example, there are clearly instances of police misconduct, police killings, well, police brutality.
And even someone who otherwise supports police can be against police doing things that are wrong.
And that definitely happens.
And perhaps there are recent instances where you might, you know, think, well, that's not great.
But in terms of against what they're doing, in terms of are you against them legally deporting, but are you against them legally deporting illegal immigrants?
Well, I just wouldn't want to date an ICE agent either way.
Yeah, that's fine.
like that's up to them but that's just yeah no but you you said that you're against what they're doing which they're the primary thing that i against i'm against what they're being made to do yeah And what they choose to do.
Well, it could be simple.
It could be easy.
I mean, somewhat.
It's not an easy job.
But there are some cases where it's not what you want to.
I just don't know.
Yeah, so I mean, I'm happy to grant that there are definitely probably instances where either the ICE agents are doing something wrong, or, you know, maybe even we could even categorize it as far worse than that.
But I guess when it comes to the deportations, do you object to justified deportations of illegal immigrants?
I would say you got this right.
You got it.
You got it.
I think the main goal is I understand the main goal for it, but I think it's been taken too far.
Yeah, I mean, look, I think for some people that that's a reasonable position to have.
But in terms of the fundamental thing that they're trying to do, which is deporting people who are here illegally, do you object?
Let's assume they go by.
No, I don't object.
Yes.
Deportation for the people who are not coming into the country the correct way is I understand that.
Go do it the correct way.
Okay, so you're fine with that?
Yeah, with how they're handling how they're doing it is what I don't support that part.
Would you date an ICE agent?
Probably not.
Probably not.
Absolutely not.
I don't really know too much about what's going on to be able to give much.
Well, essentially an ICE agent.
I do an idea of I know you've just said that.
Yeah, it's somebody who is enforcing the immigration laws of the United States.
So if you were to try to apply to your country, if somebody came to the UK illegally, you would have a law enforcement officer apprehending them and deporting them.
If they were doing it the right way, then yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, just like a police, like if he's doing it by how the government or law, so no, I'm just not into like I don't think being an ICE agent inherently makes you a bad person or a bad partner.
So I don't understand that.
Why Simps Send Cash?00:05:01
Hello, you?
Of course, yes, I would date and marry.
Ace agent, ICE agent.
Okay, all right, cool.
Let's see here.
We have, oh, let me shout out a couple people who have looks like you guys bought some merch.
Thank you guys.
You guys didn't send a message, but thank you.
Nikolai, thank you for the cash app payment.
Appreciate it, man.
Thank you, thank you.
All right, guys, we are, what the heck happened there?
One sec, guys.
I'm fixing something in my computer.
Okay, we're going to get into, hmm.
Oh, you know what?
Here's a question for the OnlyFans girls.
OnlyFans, OnlyFans, OnlyFans.
Nobody else has OnlyFans.
super quick segment so do you guys get why i guess we can even do it with the women who don't do only fans Like, have you had guys who just send you money, kind of simps or whatever?
Of course.
Like, they'll just send you money.
Here's $10.
Here's $50, $100, $200.
They're called PayPicks.
PayPigs, PayPigs.
Have you guys had, you have that?
Have that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
What was the question?
Yeah, the question is.
We do this segment where it's a Uno reverse.
So basically, you know, you guys, even women who don't do OnlyFans have this experience of, like, I mean, I guess I could ask it this way.
Have you had a guy, you know, you're an attractive gal.
Has a guy ever just sent you money just cuz?
No.
Like, have you ever feet pics or anything like that?
No.
Okay.
Oh, guys have asked to send you money, but you turned them down.
Yes.
Okay, you've been offered.
Okay.
Has a guy ever just like been a simp and like, oh, let me buy you an, maybe like, let me send you a DoorDash.
Let me send you money, cash app Venmo, anything like that?
Oh, yeah, I've gotta DoorDash.
By dudes?
One time.
Oh, one time.
But was it Starbucks?
Was it like a guy you friend zoned or?
No.
It was a guy you were dating.
Nope.
Just who?
Just a guy, a friend?
A guy friend.
Okay.
Amy, have you had that experience?
Guys just sending you money?
I also declined, but yeah, my message requests are terrifying.
I don't even go in there anymore.
Same group.
Okay, I'm assuming you guys have messages on Snapchat and whatever, but always decline.
All right, just curious, who has some cash on them right now?
Just show of hands.
Anybody have cash?
Does anyone carry cash here?
No cash.
Ah, shit.
I was going to see, I was going to roll reversal.
I was going to see, you know, maybe once as a bucket list thing that you can just, like a little ha-ha as a novelty, you can be like, oh, I'm going to give Brian.
Give me, you know, you want us to be not a pay pig.
Or you want feet pics.
Are you poor?
Free what?
I said feet picks.
No, I definitely don't want feet pics.
I'm not into that.
But I do, yeah, I'm a starving college student.
It's really hard out here, starving artist.
So if anybody has any cash on them and you want to just give it to me, I'll take some.
That was me.
That was me.
Whoops.
All right, I guess no takers.
All right.
Tough crowd here tonight.
I don't.
Hey, it's worked before.
It's worked before.
One time a girl gave me like $300, $400.
No, it was somebody else.
Someone else.
Are you poor?
Oh, I've had like other girls on the panel.
They'll just give me cash when I ask for you.
Did you take it?
Of course.
Oh, wow.
Why should I turn down cash?
What are you going to give it?
That's what I'm saying.
You're right.
Why should we turn away cash?
Well, here on the whatever podcast.
Even if it's dirty money?
What do you mean dirt?
Like if it's like if they're free?
What?
Cash is kang.
No, if it's like from OnlyFans or someone gave it to them and then they give it to you.
I'll explain we don't have money.
You don't care.
Yeah, I'll accept money from an OnlyFans girl.
I don't really care.
She can give it to me.
Aren't you a Catholic though?
No, I'm agnostic.
I have pro-Christian sentiment, though.
Do you support OnlyFans?
No.
But you would take money from OnlyFans.
I don't understand.
This doesn't even make sense.
So if an OnlyFans girl goes to a Christian bakery and asks for bagels.
No, but she's giving it to you for free.
Yeah, so.
I don't care.
He doesn't care.
He just wants to be a fan.
It's a donation.
It's a donation.
I don't see how that's...
You can also agree, like, I could give someone money that could give him money, and then he wouldn't even know it's dirty money.
But it came from me originally.
Okay, that's different.
I'm saying if it's directly, he knows it's from your OnlyFans.
Better in my pocket than this OF girl.
What?
I guess.
Yeah, she should give me it.
Yeah, they should come on the show.
Should I cash out you?
I'm guilty of that.
Yeah, you probably should.
Yeah, they should give me a tribute when they come on the show.
I do appreciate it.
But, okay, unfortunately, I didn't fail on that.
Complete fail.
But I tried, you know, I always like to try because sometimes I come away with a bag.
Have I had cash on me?
I get it.
Involuntary Celibacy Considerations00:15:51
Let's see here.
Okay, so we did allegiance.
We did the money segment.
Oh, here's a fun segment.
It's called Big Brother Brian segment.
All right, Mary, I don't need the commentary.
So, okay.
Oftentimes, I think men, maybe your male friends can't be honest with you about.
If you maybe were ever curious about something about dating, a question about men, I will answer your question completely honestly, completely bluntly.
If you're dating a guy, he's not going to give you an honest answer.
Probably a lot of your male friends are not in a position to actually be able to get this girl a fucking energy drink or something.
That's like the 20th yawn.
Yeah, you get her an energy drink or something.
She already took one, huh?
So, does anybody have a question they would like to ask?
I will give you a completely honest answer.
Something about men, something about dating, anything.
I will be your big bro, and I'll give you some advice.
Stay approach.
That's completely.
It's just going to be a no.
Okay.
What's up?
So I have a question.
I've seen a little shirt of this podcast and you guys talking about body count and things like that.
Is that a big deal in America?
Is body count a big deal?
Yeah, for females.
Yeah, it's not in Europe, is it?
Not really.
It's not really.
We don't have that in Russia.
Nobody's talking about it.
I've never heard of that.
So it doesn't matter how many.
No, we're very sex positive in Europe, so it's not really a big issue.
Yeah, I mean, it depends what we mean by your question is, does it matter?
Like, do you.
I'm asking for clarification.
Please repeat.
I think the question is, does body count matter in America?
Does body count matter in America?
Yeah, that's a little bit more.
Well, I mean, America is incredibly diverse.
So, I mean, like, I can't just give you.
Yes, every single man in America cares about body count.
You just said I'm going to be a big bro.
I'm going to tell you the truth.
Yeah, my question isn't in contradiction to your question or my answer.
Maybe she's asking, do you care about body count?
Me specifically?
Yeah, but she's not going to be a menu.
And then you're asking you, American men.
Well, conservative, why?
It depends where you are, I guess.
Like, it depends on the state where you're like, most of the men in Miami does not care.
Yeah, here, I'll try to buy it on the general question, I guess.
I think in general, yes, I would say in general, it is going to be a factor in terms of what men care about.
Now, however, it's a bit complicated.
So I think if the woman is attractive enough, a lot of men, perhaps even the majority of men, are going to give them a pass.
A lot of men don't have the same level of abundance and optionality that even an average woman has.
So a lot of men, they don't have a lot of dating prospects and options.
So in order for you to care about body count as man, you need to have leverage.
In order to have leverage, you need to have options.
So if you don't have options as a man, you're going to kind of just, oh, she's good looking.
She's not even good looking all the time.
She's attractive enough and she's interested in me.
Honestly, majority of men, that's probably going to be the standard.
Now, should that be the standard?
Not necessarily.
But if we saw that men had more abundance, more options, more standards, even, then absolutely, yes.
I think a lot of men, you know, it basically comes down to the optionality component.
But are you talking about hookup or marriage?
Well, that's different too.
Because I think most of the guys.
Men care less.
Men will prioritize it less for like long-term relationships.
With their wife, they would care to prioritize it more.
But even then, I think a lot of guys have been zeroed out of the dating marketplace.
A lot of guys really aren't getting that level of attention.
So like a lot of guys are kind of desperate and they will settle and tolerate a suboptimal situation.
They still care about it, but they realize they don't have the leverage to actually exercise the optionality to be selective about it.
And also, there's just not enough pool of women who, frankly, have low body counts or who are virgins or whatever the metric is.
But in the first place, they would care.
Most of them would prefer someone, especially for a wife.
Yes, but whether or not they can get the woman who has a low body count, that's another question.
So I think, but yes, I think if you were to ask most men, yeah, I think most men would say if they could get it, then yes, they would want a woman who has a lower body count.
Yeah, but they still treat virgins and young girls really bad, I think.
I have a small question.
I just wanted to know: like, did you look up the statistics on everything, right?
On what?
I don't know.
I was just asking.
Because you're like claiming most men prefer virgins and girls with lower body count.
So I was just thinking about it.
Well, the claim is men prefer lower body count, yes.
That can entail virgin, but I think most, I would say, most men, would it be their preference for the girl to be a virgin?
Yes, but I think most men realize that like experience?
Well, America is a Christian country, right?
And so biblically, obviously, men want virgins, and I think all high-value men would want a virgin or a girl with a low body count.
Go ahead, finish your.
Oh, sorry.
I was going to ask, do you guys believe like both parties should be virgin?
Like, don't you believe like a virgin girl deserves a virgin?
Like, I'm thinking about myself personally.
You know, if I were to be a virgin, I wouldn't want to be with someone that's not a virgin.
That's well, look, if you're a woman who's a virgin and you only want to date a virgin, I'm completely fine with that.
I don't have a double standard on it, but I would say that women tend to be, even women who are virgins are way more forgiving of male promiscuity than the reverse.
Women, there are definitely women who don't want to deal with or date like a guy who's highly promiscuous or was highly promiscuous or who has a high body count.
But that the proportion of women who have that preference is far lower than the proportion of men who value this.
And it's for a couple different reasons.
There's a nurture component, but there's also a nature component.
So I think for evo-psych reasons, essentially, there's a biological reason for why men care about body count.
One of the, there's plenty of reasons why men care about body count, but I would argue one of the big ones is it just has to do with paternity certainty.
So as a man, let me paint it like this.
Let's say a woman has 10 husbands and she's sleeping with all of them.
Who's the father?
Absent a DNA test.
You don't know.
However, if you have a man who has 10 wives and they're all loyal to him, you know who the father is and who the mother is in all instances.
So in this case, I think there's an evolutionary basis for men's heavier investment in a lack of promiscuity, a lack of either past or current promiscuity in women because it has to do with paternity uncertainty.
Women, if you get pregnant, you know, you know your paternity, or not, excuse me, not paternity, maternity in this case, is guaranteed in all instances because if you have the kid, that's for sure your kid.
It's one of the biggest L's a man can take in life to be with, it's not just the infidelity, it's he's raising a kid that he thinks is his, but is not.
It's a double whammy.
She cheated, and I'm investing resources and love and attention to a child that's not mine.
So it's men are more evolutionary and biologically invested in this.
But what if it's not with a kid?
Huh?
What if it's not with a kid?
Why do women like tall men?
Why do women like strong men?
I don't like tall men.
Because I don't like tall men either.
Oh my God, you women always do this.
I do.
Always do this where it's like, well, what about me?
No, I'm speaking in generalities here.
So for example, is it wrong for me to say humans are born with 10 fingers?
Is that incorrect for me to say?
Now, are there some people who are born with another digit, another finger?
Yes.
But it's not incorrect as a general principle to say humans are born with 10 fingers.
You guys always want to do this thing like...
It's a different topic.
That's a total different topic.
What was the original question over here?
Rose, yours.
What if there's not kids involved?
Yeah, I'm saying like, and it's very, it's like a flex for guys to have a higher body count.
And for a girl, it's like, she's like a whore, you know?
Like, it's not in the same level.
Well, I mean, that's another thing.
So for a woman to be a slut, incredibly easy.
Any woman could be a slut.
In order to be a slut as a man, definitely not every guy can be a slut.
There are men who are in cells.
Women cannot be involuntarily celibate.
So it takes either a certain degree of status, attractiveness, looks, money, or charisma for a man to be able to get laid.
So just because it's harder for a men?
Women get laid a lot?
And yes, it's harder for men to get laid.
Whereas for a woman, you can be like severely unattractive.
As long as you're making yourself sexually available, you'll get takers.
You go on Tinder, you put a sign around your neck saying, pussy open for business.
Even if it's crass as fuck, even if it's crass and gross, if you just have a sign, DTF, you will get takers.
So why are guys so desperate?
I even think you could put like a above average looking guy doing that.
No women are coming up to him DTF like that.
Like they're not doing that.
Maybe, like, look, I could think of like, you know, maybe there's some scenario where it could happen.
But at least I would say it would be really rare.
And it would definitely not be at the frequency with which if a woman was doing that, she puts a sign that says DTF within an hour of being out, she's got like this.
But isn't it the guy's fault because they're so desperate?
Like they don't care about it.
At fault with it then.
Well, that doesn't change the fact that, so in terms of why there's this double standard that exists, I don't think that that would change, regardless of who's to blame, so to speak.
Yes, I would agree.
Women tend to be more selective.
I don't disagree with you there, but it doesn't change the fact that why the double standard exists.
So y'all women, it's easy for you to be a slut.
It's hard for a guy to be a slut.
That's interesting.
I don't like that.
It's easy for both.
Really?
No, it's not the same.
Wait, let's check this out.
Let me test this right now.
Hold on, let me test it.
How can I test this?
Don't ask me.
You're going to spend some bars.
No, I like how.
Did you hear what Andrew Tate says once that women born with value?
So why are you using the word slot?
I don't think women.
Because women are very emotional.
So in order to become a slut, they have to disconnect, I would say, more their emotions.
And guys are more into physical.
But nowadays, guys are also emotional either.
But not as, not like a woman.
They can turn it off very easy, but.
I mean, even, that's why Judaism is passed down only through the mother, correct?
Because.
Because going back to what Brian said, the paternity cannot be guaranteed.
That's the only re that's why Judaism can only be passed down through the mother.
It makes sense from an evolutionary and biological standpoint.
But you think that it's just like easy for guys too?
I think it goes both ways.
Like, I understand.
If you're a guy, if you're a girl, you're going to find a way to go and fuck people.
So I'm not saying that men have zero access to hookup culture.
I'm not saying that there aren't men who can just go to a party and just get laid.
It definitely happens.
I mean, in order for women to do it, there has to be a counterpart.
But what I'm saying is you can take an average or even below average looking woman, put her on a dating app, and she can get like any single girl here at this table, you could download Tinder right now.
You could get laid tonight.
I think you put even like an above-average looking guy, maybe even a really studly dude, on a dating app tonight.
I don't know.
It might take him a little, it might take him a minute to get it.
But I think that, look, ultimately, I think you have an average-looking girl, below-average-looking girl.
They can get sex super easily.
Are you familiar with the phenomenon of incels?
No.
So incel stands for involuntarily celibate.
So basically, despite efforts, like you, you're trying to get laid.
You can't.
This is a phenomenon only witnessed in men.
Only men can be involuntarily celibate.
You might be able to say, well, there's a woman who's a paraplegic and she's like the ugliest woman on earth and she lives on a deserted island.
Under this circumstances, a woman could perhaps be involuntarily celibate.
Although if she had an internet connection, some motherfucker showing up in a boat and down to fuck.
But like, ultimately, I mean, here, I can test it out really quick.
We got some single women.
After the show, do you want to have sex?
No.
With me.
No, okay.
She's a child.
Excuse me.
Wait, she's 19.
She's an adult.
Yeah, but like, so I feel like it really depends with the group of people you're going to for a guy.
Like, as a guy, it depends on like the type of girl you're going for.
Go for someone who's your at your level.
Oh, I'm totally fine with age gap relationships, but I'm more so doing this as a rhetorical question.
Well, I don't know if I would have to.
Fuck it, whatever.
I don't think it hands on me.
I'll ask it.
After the show, my God, I disdain almost asking this.
And I'll only ask it to the single woman here.
After the show, would you like to have sex?
Charlotte's fuck.
After the show, Bella.
After the show, would you like to have sexual intercourse, carinal knowledge?
After the show, would you like to have?
No.
What about you?
No.
Okay, so look, I just propositioned four or five single women.
Look, I didn't, you know, I mean, obviously she's trolling, but.
She's not trolling.
The feelings mutual, by the way.
The feelings mutual on that.
And just to be clear, that was not a genuine proposition.
Don't be offended by this.
This is where looks maxing culture has come from.
Are you familiar with this, Brian?
Luxmaxing?
Clavicula?
I mean, guys are literally going to such extreme measures to increase their attractiveness that they are literally taking hammers to the face and they're hitting their face enough to create these microfractures in their cheekbones and in their jaw so that it regrows stronger.
And this is a growing phenomenon that used to be kind of small within like incel and black pill communities, but it's been recently popularized by this individual called Clavicula.
And now a lot of guys are going to these very extreme measures.
They're getting leg extension surgeries to be taller.
They're taking hammers to the face.
They're taking meth.
But women who have been doing plastic surgery.
Yeah, I was about to say that.
Girls are doing that.
I feel like the men are doing it on the same surgery on a different level.
Instead of just going and getting surgery, these guys are taking myths so that they're starving themselves or like smacking their jaws with hammers instead of just getting surgery.
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And honestly, to a degree, I understand it because women only usually date across or higher.
And to Brian's point, a lot of guys are incels.
I mean, there are whole communities that are based around this notion.
That's men do have to have a higher value to be able to take on more partners.
No, completely.
Yeah.
Like, let me ask you: so, you probably go to college parties and stuff.
So, look, I acknowledge that there's definitely going to be hookups and people are going to be hooking up, but I think what the phenomenon you're going to see is typically the guys who are successful when it comes to getting casual sex.
And we actually see this, there's data on this from the dating apps.
Basically, you have the majority of women all chasing after the top five, 10% of guys on dating apps.
And we also see this even in real life, absent the dating apps.
If you put on a speed dating event, by the way, this is why men don't go to these like lame speed dating events because it's a massive humiliation ritual for 90% of the men.
You go to these speed dating events, like the women will be eyeballing.
Let's say there's a hundred men, hundred women.
They're going to be hyper-focused, the women, on like four, five, six guys there.
Whereas, like, say there's an equal distribution of the men's assessment of the women's attractiveness, they'll the guys will be like, oh, yeah, 50, 60 of the women were attractive.
I would date her.
Whereas women are way harsher when it comes to their assessments of men.
They'll be like, ah, there were like two or three guys I liked.
And so you see this playing out in the real world too.
Basically, women find like the vast majority, I guess I'd put it like this: most men find most women attractive.
Most women definitely don't find most men attractive.
Would you agree with that?
No, I would agree with that.
It's on your standards.
It's how you have your standards.
Sure, but in this case, I think that while you do have like a small percentage of men who are hypersexual who are engaging in hookup culture, you basically have groups of men who maybe occasionally they might get something, but for the most part, most men, yeah, they can't really have access to the hookup culture.
Whereas I'd paint it like percentages.
I think here, I'll just be a bit conservative.
I think it's 100%.
Let's just say 90% of women have access to hookup culture.
So I understand, just to be clear, when I say access, I'm not saying that 90% of women want hookup culture or want to just have casual hookups or fuck whenever they want, but they all have the ability to do it if they wanted to.
No, yeah.
Like, I'm sure you guys are friends.
You guys go to college.
You're both attractive.
I don't know if younger guys, if they're approaching women as frequently as they used to years past because of social media, dating apps, social dating landscape, kind of sketchy a little bit.
But I'm sure you guys have a lot of options, I would assume.
So I think 90% of women, you know, what's that?
Clazing.
Okay.
I think you basically would have just an abundance of options, but I'm sure you're not, you're rejecting probably a lot of guys, I'm assuming.
Oh, is that a question?
Yeah, sure.
Why not?
I mean, I haven't really been here for that long.
I haven't really gone to that many parties, but I would say, I think there's.
I mean, I wouldn't say I would reject like guys aren't going up to us and being like, hey, like, let's hang out.
Like, can I remember?
More so, like, they start like slowly lingering.
Like, ooh.
And then rejecting them is just like kind of lingering the other way.
I feel like it used to be way more prominent of like guys going up to girls and like being very blunt, but they realize that probably does not work.
So, gotta find other ways.
Well, I think there's a component of men don't have to approach in person now because of social media and because of dating apps, they have a different avenue.
Like, being rejected on a dating app is pretty much a nothing.
Maybe for some guys it stings a little bit, but it's so far separated that it's like whatever.
Whereas most men probably are most men are very uncomfortable with the idea of approaching a woman in person and being rejected in person.
And also, the stakes are way higher.
Now, it's just like, okay, she's going to make some TikTok.
Oh my God, this creepy guy fucking approached me at Trader Joe's.
And like, the stakes are higher now.
The social stakes are quite high.
So, yeah.
True.
But in any case, look, I have to disagree, though, that there are men who do engage in casual sex or who have access to hookup culture.
But really, I think you have maybe 5-10% of men who can do the hookup culture stuff.
The rest get nothing or they get relationships.
And then 90% of women, if they wanted to, could be sluts.
Yeah.
If they wanted to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I agree.
I mean, look, you can do the experiment.
There's a whole bunch of ways you can do the experiment.
You could wear a sign that says DTF.
You send a girl out.
You send a guy, guy out.
And they could be equivalent in terms of their looks.
And the girl, let's say you send out two average-looking people.
The girl's going to be bombarded.
She'll probably get dozens of propositions in a day if she's out there for a couple hours.
The guy's going to stand there looking like a complete fucking idiot.
Also, I understand that guys don't approach as much as they used to in years past, but I would say that if you go to a party or a bar or club, as a guy, no girl's coming up to you.
Like if you're at the club or bar, just, you know, not being a weirdo, but just hanging out, no girl's going to be like, oh, hey, girls don't really shoot their shot like that.
Again, I understand sometimes they do.
Sad.
Why?
If you find a cute guy, shoot your shot, girl.
You should.
Have you ever shot your shot?
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I feel like he has to like.
What's your line?
What's your go-to?
Oh, I just got to like roll.
I have a good one.
Really quick before I have you do it.
This is how girls shoot their shot.
All right, you ready?
Let's hear it.
I just did it.
True.
It just like glance at you for one second and then that's shooting their shot.
Let me give you guys a great way to approach someone.
Okay.
You go up to them and you go, oh my gosh, I think I've seen you before.
Like, how do I know you?
And then starts flowing.
And that just works.
You just got to dip your toe in the water, see how it's flowing.
Yeah.
And Brian writing it down.
Taking notes here.
Taking notes.
Well, really quick, I wanted to come back to this because it came up while we were talking about this.
Okay, so you object to age gap relationships then?
Because when I, I mean, I was doing a rhetorical segment when I was propositioning you, but you're like, oh, yeah, stay in your lane, Brian.
What would actually be, like, for example, a 30-year-old dating a 20-year-old, would you object to that?
No.
I mean, my sister's like in her 20s.
She's eating a guy in his 30s.
Me too.
You seem to have like a.
I mean, it depends on the two people.
I feel like.
I mean, there's definitely there could be like a maturity age gap.
I mean, I feel like.
I thought women mature faster than that's why if a guy is like 10 years older, it's not such a big deal.
Like it is, but it's not like as if the woman is because normally the woman is normally more mature.
Yeah.
Also, like, look, let's just be honest.
Actually, never mind.
No, say it.
We love being honest.
No, well, look, I mean, there's, again, evolutionary biological basis for this.
men are typically going to find women between the age of like 25 to 18 that age range as just more physically attractive do you think like yeah older men find like by the way just to be clear like women in their late 20s 30s still can be or are very attractive But I think if you ask most men, they've done studies on this.
I think it's just the youth, but they're biologically attracted to have babies.
Fertility.
Yeah.
Actually, I feel like there's a lot of guys that have mommy issues and they like 40-year-olds.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, sure.
There's also men who date older women.
Yeah, I'm not saying, like, I don't like these people who are kind of more extreme about it.
They'll say, oh, the women, once they're expired goods, I think, first off, I think that's a bit insulting to older women.
It is.
And I think it's just, I don't think it's actually true.
I think women, even in their late 20s, 30s, do mostly find dating.
Some encounter issues, but I think it's a bit of a cope.
And also, they're still attractive, you know.
But if we're just like doing an analytical assessment of what men generally find most attractive, I'd say like 20 to 25, 18 to 25.
Did you have something?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, over 35, it's like considered a geriatric pregnancy.
Technically, there's a lot more complications that can arise from that.
You can get pregnant with that.
Yeah, I mean, you can get pregnant, but it's more likely that there's going to be complications.
And so like even for me and my fiancé, he's actually a little bit younger than me, but we plan to begin hopefully honeymoon baby.
We want to try to make babies as soon as possible.
Pump them out.
Yes.
Wait, did sorry, you had something or I'm trying to remember.
Was it somebody over here had something about the age gap?
I'm trying to remember.
No, you said that.
I don't know why.
I mean, I don't have my husband and I are only three weeks apart, but I don't think that's the issue of it.
Like it makes sense that older men would be attracted to younger women for that reason.
My brother is married to a woman that's 12 years younger, I think, than him.
And they're very compatible because of like where she's at as a human.
I think big age gaps are only acceptable after a certain age.
20.
Yeah.
After 20.
Like somebody reaching their 30s was like, oh, you're ATI can hit on you.
I'd be running for my life.
Yeah.
Well, look, I think it might be a bit peculiar, for example, if you have somebody in their 30s going to college parties, specifically only trying to hit on 18 and 19-year-olds.
That might be a bit weird.
I don't think it would be like, I don't think it would point to him being like a pedophile.
Pedophile or whatever.
But like it is a little peculiar, but I think you can, for example, you can find women at 35, like you can find women at 35, 40, 30, 25, 20.
You could find women at all these age ranges attractive.
I guess here I could give you an example.
So I'm 36.
If a 19-year-old girl DMs me, so I'm not looking for it.
She DMs me and she's hot and she, we align on our values.
Can you make an argument why I should reject her?
What if she's less mature than you?
Mature?
She just, she's in college or whatever.
Like you guys are in very different places in life.
Different stages of life.
So you're going to talk about it.
So you wouldn't care.
The different stages of life, I don't find that particularly compelling.
I would also say that in terms of maturity, some of the most immature.
By the way, just to make something clear, I've dated women who are older than me.
I dated a woman who was in her 40s.
I've dated women my age, a little younger, a little older.
I've dated the smorgasbord.
Experience.
The most immature women I've ever dated that were the most toxic, the most conflict-ridden, the most immature were women my age or older.
That's why they're still single.
Right.
So it kind of knows it does play into this idea that, look, there are good women who can, you know, shit happens, whatever.
You know, you can find good women in late 20s, 30s, even older.
But I think the proportion, like the keepers, get discovered early.
The keepers, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23.
Again, not universal.
There's women who are keepers in their 30s, 20s, et cetera, et cetera.
There's a higher proportion of women who are keepers when they're younger because they haven't been kept yet.
They haven't dated enough to have been kept.
Been kept.
Been kept.
There's more keepers.
It's likely, you know, the older you get, the more you've experienced.
You know, you can have good and bad experiences.
The more trauma you have, the more bullshit the man needs to deal with, number one.
And then also, I think men kind of like being able to give their woman their first-time experience.
You know what I mean?
Like they want to be the one to put them in that nice car for the first time and give them all these luxurious experiences.
No, it's true.
I mean, he has a really good point when he says that.
Men derive a lot of pleasure from that.
No, I mean, it is true.
And I agree with Andrew on that.
Where's my nice car?
He said, where's my nice car?
You're young.
You're dating college guys, all right?
You're not going to find your husband.
Start dating 30-year-olds.
Well, I mean, that's one of the reasons I think that some younger.
Look, also with the age gap thing, I do want to make this clear.
I acknowledge, but I'm not saying younger women should date older men.
I'm saying they can.
And there shouldn't be some sort of weird.
Look, people can do whatever they want, but I don't think we should necessarily try to pathologize it.
But I think that I think I can acknowledge, like, most women date guys around their age.
You probably date a guy your age, one, two, three years older.
And that's totally fine.
But if a woman wants to date an older guy, that's also totally fine.
And in terms of the maturity, though, look, I can tell you from my own experience.
Yeah, some of these older women, the most fucking toxic, like they don't handle, they don't handle rejection well.
They don't handle breakups well.
They do not handle it.
And I've had women like you can, you can do the nice thing where a lot of guys will ghost a girl.
You can be like, you can do the nice thing and talk to them and tell them, hey, listen, it was nice going on one or two, three dates with you, but I don't know if it's the right fit.
And you can be nice and polite, not do the ghosting thing.
And I've had one or two older women lose their fucking shit and make it their fucking scorned woman, make it their thing to want to like, I've had women try to ruin my business because I didn't want to keep dating them.
Like awful shit, like completely disproportional.
This isn't something interesting about some women.
And some men do this too.
I call it going nuclear.
So for example, I don't think you should call people stupid, but if I call somebody stupid, I think you should perhaps insult me back in a proportionate way.
So you shouldn't be like, if I call somebody stupid, you probably shouldn't be like, well, I hope your parents die.
That seems disproportionate, you know?
In that same vein, I've rejected women.
When I say reject, I'm not like, you suck, bitch.
No, it's like very polite.
I don't ghost them.
I communicate.
They lose their fucking shit.
And they're like, oh my God, you wasted my time.
I'm like, we went on one date, two dates.
Calm down, lady.
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And so They go nuclear.
I don't know.
Maybe you guys have had a situation.
I think it depends on with like a weird stalker creepy guy who maybe you gave him your number and now you got a stalker.
And it's like that go nuclear thing.
Guys do it too, but I think it depends on person.
Have you heard Army Hammer, the actor?
How the yeah, I know about him.
Yeah, like he got canceled in Hollywood, lost all his contracts, jobs.
He was extremely successful actor, Army Hammer.
And the girl accused him, like, he's rape her or something like that.
And she was well, no, you don't really have it correct.
So this is a very unique scenario, but there were allegations that he was into, he had a very peculiar kink, allegedly some sort of cannibalistic kink.
No, so he liked to like, yes, this is, I'm familiar with Army Hammer.
I'm very familiar with this.
So he allegedly, there was, he had this cannibalism kink, allegedly.
I don't know the truth of it.
If you're having consensual kink fetish interactions with people, I don't know.
He did lose his pretty successful career, though.
Yeah, but what about Jonah Depp and his Ember Heard?
Yeah, like she also chooses.
There's lots of stories like that where men choose younger women and she's destroy his career.
And I mean, I guess it depends on person because we all know there's examples when these women have a lot to gain by doing that as well.
If you're a man with notoriety, then you have a lot to gain by making these allegations as well.
Yeah, just to be clear, younger women can do this too.
But I think that, at least in my experience, and I've dated different, you know, I've dated younger, older, all this stuff.
My experience has been that it's been the older, the older women who their optionality when it comes to dating is in the decline.
They're the ones who get really bent out of shape when things end.
And I think, you know, over time, people can get jaded and can get, like, when you're toxic, that shit gets worse as you age.
So, like, if you're toxic at 18, like, I don't know.
I think also younger women have so many options.
It's like she gets rejected by a guy.
Okay.
I got a hundred dudes in my DMs.
I got an NFL player in my DMs.
I got Drake in my DMs.
Okay, you rejected me, college guy, whatever.
I don't give a fuck.
Like, that's how women who are attractive and young operate.
Like, they just have abundance.
They don't care.
Maybe the problem that you're dating American women, maybe you should try a date.
Andrew Tates says, since you watch him, like Andrew Tate said, what Slavic women?
Yeah, I mean, I would say that in terms of like being more feminine, I would say in terms of being more feminine, Eastern European women, I guess this would encompass Russian women.
Asian women and Latin American women definitely have more of the positive traits than men care about versus American women.
American women are very masculine.
They're full-on boss babes.
They've taken the propaganda.
Y'all want to be career boss babe women.
You guys don't want any, well, you want men to be traditional.
You want men to be like it's the 1950s, while you women want shit to be 2026 for what you can do.
Y'all want to keep the benefits of modernity for women, but you definitely like the men to be provider, protector, chivalrous, all that shit.
You love that shit.
Even if you're a liberal, feminist, equality woman, you want the guy to pay for it.
You guys not very fair, anyways.
And also, the government here are protecting women.
So men get, I would say, surprised a lot because women can divorce him, took everything he has, he gained.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, like, that's what I'm trying to say.
Sure.
His house, money, everything, and even accuse him like he was abusive or something like that.
And never true.
And he could never talk to his kids again.
Thanks, feminism.
Yeah.
Feminism has done a number on women.
What do you guys know?
Who's going around the table?
Thank Terrassis.
Bringing that up, Amy.
Who here is a feminist going around the table?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, I would say.
can i get a quick definition that means you think because if you think if you should be equal everyone should be equal Well, I don't agree with that.
I just think feminism is a lot of people.
I described feminism more about how it's women thinking that they're better than men.
Yeah, I don't believe that.
I don't think that's the third wave of feminism, right?
Nowadays, that's not the modern wave has been described in the past years has changed a lot from how it started.
Yeah.
I feel like it's caught.
There's been waves of feminism, but they're all bad, in my opinion.
Like, the second wave of feminism was set up by this woman who really advocated for it.
Her name's Kate Millay.
I think she was French, but she was a communist and Marxist and Satanist, I believe, as well.
And they intentionally basically set it up.
Well, number one, the government set it up so they could tax both men and women.
It was about a money thing, number one.
But the second wave is where the propaganda really began and started, I guess, what we would call the work mind virus, where, yes, women now believe that they are superior to men.
Well, like, like Brian said, they want a man who is chivalrous.
They want a man who, you know, operates like it was the 1950s, whereas they want to be the 2026 version, where they can have all of the options.
they can be a boss babe um yeah that's i think men and women should just vibe that is such a mood Men and women should just vibe.
I think we have a definition as equal.
Like, so equal, isn't it?
Feminism.
But realistically, men seek out supremacy because they want to just be able to do whatever the hell they want to do.
But they still expect men to get to a certain standard.
A lot of women, like, I get a lot of shit from people for being a stay-at-home mom.
Like, your husband must be some domineering asshole when in the grand scheme of things, he allows me to stay home and take care of our family.
Which is something else that feminism has also completely destroyed is just like a strong family.
I think it's just given people the option.
I spend a lot of time at schools, and I can tell you there's kids that are having a really hard time, especially when you take a mom out of the mix of things.
Sorry, sorry.
Just make the fix, please.
When you take a mom out of the household and you make her work and you exhaust her, now she's at the point, like, there's a whole bunch of things.
My biggest thing is I enjoy making food for my family from scratch.
Now all these foods are processed and have all these extra ingredients, all these chemicals that we're pumping into these children's bodies and it's causing ADHD issues.
How did other problems feminism?
Because feminism took women out of the home and told them that they belong in the workforce and not just give them the option though because they expect you to be masculine.
Like you get looked down on.
If a woman stays home, it's like a lookdown.
It's not like, oh, good for you, good for your husband.
I guess like this is eye-opening now, but I used to think that when women stay home, that's a privilege.
Yeah, they're shadow.
They're taking care of their children.
They're being prominent in the children's lives.
Well, a lot of women are fighting now.
Not that we have to.
Because you can choose.
But if you speak to femme, like I speak to them.
So you're speaking to every time.
Well, I'm just saying, like, I, as in my life, I speak to a lot of people.
I think it's narrow-minded people that are like saying, you know, like being a stay-at-home-at-home mom is nothing because that's a lot of work.
Each kid is a full-time job.
It's a job in itself.
I was in Annie.
I was an annie for a lot of moms who had a lot of kids.
What kind of dynamics do you both want?
I mean, do you want to get married?
Do you want to have kids?
Okay, yes.
If I have- I thought you didn't want kids.
No.
Last time, didn't you say you don't want kids?
Yeah.
Wasn't that an option?
I'm getting baby cute.
I'm not even talking about it.
I'm 18.
I'm not talking about kids.
Sorry.
I really want to say this.
If I marry someone who is like, has enough money that I can just stay home and take care of these hypothetical children, that would be a privilege.
That would be great.
Yes.
Yeah, it is.
I'm not saying that's not like actively seeking out.
It's because I still work.
But let's say, do you have any career ambitions?
Yes.
Okay, so, but you.
I'm a singer.
Would you give up your career?
Singing?
Yeah.
To have kids?
Well, you said if you meet this guy who makes good money enough for that you.
If I was successful in my singing career, absolutely not.
But if it was some other career, probably.
Wait, if you were successful in your singing career.
Yep, I would never give that up.
You wouldn't give it up.
Ever.
Okay, but let's say.
But if it was like a business job, I'd get rid of it.
Let's assume the singing thing doesn't work out.
You have whatever your fallback career is, whatever you're studying in college.
Would you give that up, assuming the guy made enough money?
Okay.
What about you?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Hell.
Okay, so like what you're saying, like if I had a career that I'm doing really good and I'm doing better than my husband in, then he could be the same.
Yeah, I would keep my job and he will.
I feel like the roles should be like equal.
Like if somebody is making money and providing for the household, then other person is taking a look at it.
If I get really successful in my singing career, then my husband can stay home and take care of them.
But it's not the husband's job normally to raise the kids.
That's where feminism comes in.
There is no job or role.
Well, that's what you're against.
And it no, discourages nature as well.
Men get depressed when they stay home.
Like you can look at the statistics, but men get much more depression from staying at home with kids than women because that's not their main driving force as a male.
Women are emotional.
They like to give post-company.
Who's going to breastfeed?
The kids.
The babies.
Right.
But I think other fuckers are not going to be able to do that.
This is also statistically observable.
I mean, you heed my breast for a reason.
Also, I'm not necessarily talking about infants.
I think that both parents should be as present as they can for like the baby part.
Like for us, but when they're like old enough to like, a baby depends on the mom like for at least five years.
So it's not being a stay-at-home mom doesn't mean you're absent all the time.
You're just going to work, then you're coming home.
Got the weekend.
Yeah, but your husband's what I've gone for.
Like you can't replace your job.
How to even work, like nurturing and they carry that trait in them.
So yes, the mother like stays home with the child.
But if the father or if the husband isn't providing money to keep that house, the roof over their head, who's going to step in and make the money?
Well, why you married them?
Why you get pregnant with him?
So you marry a man based on how much money he's making?
No, but he should be able to protect your mother.
You should see the potential.
You should see his actions and if he's responsible.
If he's going to make a difference, when I married my ex-husband, he didn't make a lot of money at all.
Like he was in the military.
I don't know how much money he could make.
Well, you just contributed to something.
You need a man with a drug.
So why would you get with a man that doesn't have money, but you got a million?
No.
Not money.
I said actions and how much potential.
Yes, I'm talking about money.
I see what he's doing, like how he's responsible with everything and also with money.
Brian, you can maybe look up the statistic, but currently as it stands, I think it's less than 70% of people in the United States are married and earn a home now.
And this used to be the basis of the American dream.
And it's because of the inversion of the gender roles, because women are masculine and they therefore emasculate their man.
They're not getting married.
They're not earning homes.
This was, again, the foundation of the American dream, and it just doesn't exist for the majority of people anymore.
And I personally believe that feminism is to blame for that.
This is true.
Yeah, I mean, look, I think to Amy's point, in terms of the man being able to be the provider, when we basically said, okay, well, we're going to do away with this.
And look, I'm not saying women shouldn't have had the ability to work, but perhaps an unintended consequence of just completely unlimited feminism, when you double the labor pool.
So prior, look, by the way, women were able to work.
There wasn't some like law passwords like women are completely barred from working.
Women have been employed for centuries.
Women have been involved in work to some capacity.
But you also have to remember that there weren't air-conditioned office jobs 200, 300, 400 years ago.
The majority of work that was available was work that was just physically impossible or really, really difficult for women to do.
Men are stronger than women.
And if you go back 300, 400, 500 years, there wasn't like a fucking account manager at Facebook.
There was, you need to move that barrel of hay over there.
You need to build this.
Like there weren't all these jobs that, you know, so feminism and women's access to the workforce really is, can only really exist in a world where you have air-conditioned office jobs.
And so that's a really modern invention.
But basically, when you double the labor pool, there's other factors at play.
If you double the labor pool, that's going to drive wages down.
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It used to be the case you could raise a family on one income.
Now, again, I'm not saying, hey, women, you know, I think women should have the right to work.
However, an unintended consequence of feminism is you double the labor pool, drives wages down.
Corporations fucking love it.
Corporations love it.
They have to pay their workers less.
Taxes.
And now in a lot of fields, women are completely outperforming men.
Women are going to college way more.
They're getting more degrees.
Women actually own more houses than men do.
Women are more likely to be homeowners, especially younger women, you know, women in their 20s, 30s.
The proportion of women who own houses is far higher in this age demographic.
So you've seen a complete inversion of some of these roles.
And now, you say it's about choice.
I actually think you've taken the choice.
You've taken the choice away from women who want to be stay-at-home moms because it's so difficult now for men to actually be the breadwinner or to be in a financially or economically or economic position to actually be able to support the family on one income.
It's very difficult.
Some men can do it, but most men can't.
By doubling the labor pool, you've opened it up, wages down, a whole bunch of other, whole bunch.
I don't want to make it too black or white.
There's a bunch of reasons why the economy is completely fucked and you can't support a family on one income.
That feels like an economic problem, not a feminist problem.
Not a men in a problem.
It's not strictly due to that, but it's just an economic reality.
If you double the labor pool, women start making money.
Women are competing against men for jobs.
It's funny because on one hand, it's women on the macro scale, so external to them, women want equality in society.
But in your private relationships, not all women, but a lot of women say, oh, I want equality in the world.
But in my private relationship, I want or desire the guy to make more money.
Well, you need to foster a landscape in a society which would actually enable that kind of dynamic.
And if you have women out in the workforce, it does necessitate a lack of ability for men to be providers.
True.
There's also the component of birth control as well.
I mean, that was a huge element of feminism too, to prevent women from having children because they're able to be boss babes and pursue their career.
But there's the chemical thing as well.
Did you guys know that women who take birth control because of the chemical imbalance it creates in your brain or restructuring, probably not imbalance is the right word, they're more attracted to like feminine, liberalized men, actually.
And then when they get off the birth control, they stop being attracted to more traditional masculine men.
It's very interesting.
Wait, who's on birth control?
I've been on and off birth control for a very long time, and I wouldn't agree with that.
Wait, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
You dated a gay guy.
Did I know he was gay?
Maybe if he wasn't.
He and I break it up, you would have been able to tell.
Yeah, I could actually see that because listen to this.
I was on birth control, right?
When I started dating him, when I actually liked him, he wanted me to go off birth control because of influenza for certain reasons.
I don't even fucking know.
But as I was off birth control, I become unattracted to him.
I told you!
And then I go back on birth control.
That's perfect point.
But I go back on birth control, though.
Why?
No, let me ask you this.
Why women take birth controls?
What's the point?
So they don't have babies.
I've got an idea because I know this is a good idea.
But it plays with your hormones.
And so she doesn't get pregnant.
No, a quantum is not guaranteed.
And only one protection is not guaranteed you're not going to get pregnant.
No, but that's why I'm saying that.
Also, periods.
It does help a lot.
It helps.
Let me tell you this.
You have a relation maybe like six, five days a month.
It's not most.
You don't have to.
No, you can get pregnant only on the body.
Only on one relationship.
So you should study your fertility and read books about it.
You only have a little children's body.
You don't have to engage in sex during these days.
And that's why I honestly think the pill keeps me in order with that.
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I know when I'm in the center of the city.
But it fucks with your feminists.
But I'm considering that.
I want to say it's fucked with mine.
Well, if you don't want to date another 20, maybe you should consider getting off it.
I don't know.
I actually prefer being on it.
It helps me a lot.
It's inexperienced.
One at a time, please.
If somebody's talking, please don't interrupt them.
Just really quick going around the table.
Who's on birth control?
Can you say what kind?
Yeah, I'm on this one called Vienba, and I've been on the.
Is that the pill?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm on IUD.
Best one I've had.
Hormonal or copper?
I don't know.
There's a hormonal IUD and there's a copper IUD.
All right.
Which is non-hormonal.
I think non-hormonal.
IUD.
Wait, hormonal or it's not copper.
It's like marina.
Marina, that's what I'm on.
Never in my life.
Never.
Okay.
I've not been on contraception for like 10 years.
Okay.
I'm not.
The pill.
The pill?
Okay.
No.
No.
Okay.
All right.
Interesting.
I would say an experience.
It's helped me out a lot.
I think we were trying to define what feminism is.
I mean, I'll just throw out two definitions super quick.
I'll give you my charitable definition and then my definition.
Charitable definition is feminism is women's advocacy.
There's nothing wrong with women's advocacy.
However, this is a counter to the claim that feminism is about equality or cares about equality.
Nothing wrong with women's advocacy, but don't parade it as an equality movement.
Don't say you're a feminist.
Don't say you're in favor of equality.
Feminists do not give a fuck about equality.
They care about women's advocacy.
Nothing wrong, but don't confuse the two.
Now, here's what I think it actually is: feminism is a man-hating ideology that perpetuates really, really harmful narratives and ideological rhetoric about men, about society, about women's roles historically in modern day, about men's roles historically in modern day.
It's a complete fantasy.
It's complete bullshit.
It's a psyop.
It's nonsense.
It's dog shit.
And it's super harmful to society.
And then, like, somewhere back there, there's women's advocacy baked into the man-hating.
That's why.
That's why I said what I said earlier: the definition of feminism has very much changed over the years.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did it not start when women could not vote, women cannot be landowners, women could not do a lot of things, and that's why you need to be voted for.
Why?
Yes.
What?
Why are you here?
No one shouldn't vote anymore.
Seriously, repeal the 19th.
Gosh.
Also, sir, let me ask you guys a question.
So, your definition of feminism is men are equal to women, right?
Like, sir, let me ask you this: why do we need feminists?
Okay, equal rights.
So, let me ask you then: why is feminism still needed in 2026 when women have just as many rights as men?
Why do you still need to identify as one when we already have that?
And if not, women have an excess women like to exaggerate.
Before you guys give your answers, when you give your answers, I've just been noticing this.
I know it's because Amy's sitting there.
Can you guys just try to look straight into the microphone?
I'm going to have to side that answer.
Sorry to interrupt, but go ahead.
I um wait, okay, hold on.
Let me come back.
The concept: I wouldn't have mentioned anything about feminism if you didn't ask me if I was a feminist, because I'm not going to say I'm not a feminist because I believe that men and women should have equal rights.
So, I'm not sitting here like constantly preaching and everything because, yeah, you're right, we have a lot of equality now, but I'm not going to just drop the idea that I feel they should be equal now that we have.
But they took it way too far than just having equal rights.
But if the purpose of it has already been fulfilled, why do we still need it?
Why is it still a prevalent ideology?
We still have marketplace.
I don't know.
They're trying so much to show that we are like men, that they're trying to be more than men.
I feel like there is still a majority of, I don't know my facts or anything, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
But other countries, they don't.
In the United States.
I'm just talking about the United States.
Yeah, in the United States, I feel like it's still impactful and good to feel that we do have that privilege, not privilege, I wouldn't say privilege, the right to have the same rights as everybody else.
But if it's already been achieved and fulfilled, then why do we still need it?
I think it's history.
Just remember to know that we, it's not your history.
Your definition on feminism is very different from what it started off.
In my mind, what I'm thinking about is we now all get to vote.
We all get to own land.
We all, like, we have the same rights.
I don't think it's about all the other things that you guys are talking about.
I think it's just good to know and to support that we're able to do that because that only started in 1960.
So, quick response on this.
So, the women got the right to vote in 1920.
That's when the 19th Amendment was, what's the term, ratified, passed.
In any case, 1920s, women got the right to vote.
So, it's been over a century women have had the right to vote.
So, my first definition, because you might say feminism is about equality between men and women.
But even back then, so even if you were to discard the second definition I gave you, where I was like, it's man-hating, blah, blah, blah.
Feminism, even back 100 years ago in the 1920s, I would even argue, it was never even about equality, even going really, really far back.
It was about securing privileges and rights for women without any accompanying or corresponding duties or responsibilities.
So, for example, by the way, just to be clear, it wasn't like men had the right to vote universally for like hundreds and hundreds of years.
And then women were just, at least as it relates to suffrage, women were just brutally oppressed.
It was only like 50 years, 50 years before women got the right to vote, that men got the right to vote.
You might say, well, hey, that was still a period of time where there was an unfair discrepancy.
That might be true, but I would say in comparison to all of human history, this is kind of a very small blip on the radar in terms of the difference.
But what I'm trying to get at is, in order for men to be able to vote, men have a duty to the country.
In order for men to be able to vote, they are subject to military conscription.
Men have to register for the selective service.
It was the case in the 1920s.
It's still the case today.
Even though we've had 100 years of feminism, raw, raw feminism, fighting for equality, men today, in order to be eligible to vote, you have to register with the selective service.
I think probably a lot of you women, especially you young women, probably don't even know what that is.
You're so blissfully, what's the polite word?
Ignorant.
Well, ignorant's not particularly polite, but you're so unaware of the differentials here.
Despite being feminists, you're not even aware of the primary mechanism in which there's an unfairness in the direction of men.
Women can vote without any duty or responsibility to this country.
But who set that system up?
How would that be relevant?
But how would that be relevant?
So great red herring.
But I'm happy to talk about that, but it still, your red herring doesn't actually address my argument here, which you would acknowledge, regardless of who set the system up, you would acknowledge that this is evidence of an unfairness or unequalness that exists between men or women, which have women advantaged over men, fair to say.
Yeah.
And I'm willing to even, why don't we bite the bullet?
You're right.
It was men who set that system up.
But that isn't a, that doesn't dismiss my position, which is an unfairness or inequality does exist.
For example, let me ask you this.
Are you pro-life or pro-choice?
Pro-choice.
By the way, I'm not going to have an abortion argument with you.
Pro-life.
What if it was the case?
What if it was the case that the Supreme Court was made up predominantly of women?
And then they actually were the ones who completely got rid of Roe v. Wade.
And not just that.
This is hypothetical.
They also just completely out, not just, we're going to let the states decide, but we're actually going to have a federal abortion ban.
Like you can't, it doesn't matter if your state wants it.
It's banned across the board.
And it was a majority of women who were in the Supreme Court.
Would you accept me dismissing your arguments for pro-choice?
Would you accept a dismissal on the basis that, well, women set that system up?
That is so confusing.
Yeah, I have like comprehension issues.
Can you shorten that question up a little bit?
Well, essentially, it's like if the Supreme Court was all women, they would never, ever do that, though.
There's plenty of conservative women who want to ban abortion.
Trust me.
However, well, what I'm trying to argue here is that it's not a your position on abortion, you would feel from your perspective, the pro-choice position.
You wouldn't entertain me saying, well, I'm going to dismiss your pro-choice arguments on the basis that it's a red herring fallacy.
On the basis.
Oh boy.
It's basically if you're making an argument, you're basically like trying to distract with something that maybe sounds good or sounds like an argument, but it actually has nothing to do.
You're not actually addressing my argument here.
So it's a red herring.
It's like, well, what about this thing?
It's not really related.
So in this case, I don't think you would accept a dismissal of pro-choice arguments or positions if it happened to be the case that women were in power, but they were like conservative women.
I would still.
You would still make arguments for pro-choice, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
It wouldn't dismiss your argument for why like pro-choice.
If it was a bunch of women deciding for the entire U.S. that you couldn't get abortions, I would still object to that.
I would still object to that.
So here's what I'll do.
We can get into in a little bit who set that system up.
Happy to have that conversation.
And you know what?
Just for the sake of conversation, we can even grant that it's men.
I have some, I contest it a little bit.
I would, the group, I think you would have some points.
Are you saying it's not men who set this up?
There's a lot of women that are.
say there are a few women I would say it has to do with I'm not disregarding women I would I would say who has the reins of power.
The people in power, the elites.
And whether or not they're men, whether or not they have a penis seems kind of irrelevant to me.
But back to this.
So, okay, feminism in terms of duties.
So feminists have had robust, robust, what's the best way to put this?
Look, I'll just get back to this.
Feminism is not an equality movement.
It's women's advocacy.
Men have a duty to this country.
Can you tell me a duty that women have?
Didn't you just say like a duty for a woman is to stay home with her children?
That's not the discourse.
Can the government force you to get pregnant?
No.
Can the government force you to have children?
Yes.
What?
No, the government is not.
The government is not allowing abortion.
It's not forcing her to have children.
It's not to kill them.
Once you already have them, you can't get an abortion.
But you got pregnant.
They didn't force you to get pregnant.
They don't want you to kill them.
Okay, so then you also don't allow birth because that's different than getting pregnant.
Okay, so if I got raped, the government can force me to have that child if they take it.
I feel like it's supposed to be, it depends on the position.
First off, the situation.
Many states allow for abortion and the government doesn't ever force women.
Wait, they're not forcing pregnancy, but they're forcing birth.
Because do you know how much abortions there's a year?
Doesn't matter.
None of your business.
Yeah, everybody loves people.
It's people dying.
Like 25% of genocide?
That doesn't fucking be a lot of people.
They're people at all.
25% of Gen Z has died through abortion.
It's actually insane.
And also to make a couple of corrections, yes, you're right, Brian.
It was set up by the elites.
That way they could tax double the amount of people, so big daddy government could bring in more money.
Number two, women could actually be homeowners back in the day, as long as they weren't married.
Because once you're married, then you know your, your husband is the one who provides the house.
And to go back to the voting point, can you tell me what good has come from women being able to vote?
Because most married couples crazy women lean in the direction of liberalism, men lean in the direction of conservatism, and so if every household is voting, it cancels out the vote.
No, and and i'm not just saying that women shouldn't be able to vote I think that the standards for voting should be higher in general, like it should be, like you have to have contributed something to society, be a homeowner, be in some type of standing.
You know what I mean, but I think that women being able to vote was the first step that basically caused the feminization and the liberalization of the United States.
I what you don't want to say.
I want my husband to be able to have a say.
I didn't get married, I don't get a say.
Well, I think it depends.
Again, I think it should be, depending on your standing, but because of the propaganda, women lean very liberal and the liberal policies are what are literally ravaging and destroying this country.
That's why the ice raids in Minnesota are happening right now, because liberalism, we have this toxic empathy.
To go back to a point that I brought up earlier, where we want to import the third world, show them all this, you know, kindness and generosity and, in fact, give them rights that even Americans don't have.
Illegals were coming over here and getting cards that they could use that were topped up every month.
I think it was like, you know 1500, something like that per month.
They were being given accommodation in luxury like um, basically hotel setups, whereas we have service members who serve for this country who are literally homeless on the streets.
That's not cool.
How come illegal people coming to this country get more rights than the average American?
You're right.
Honestly, I don't think there should be any, even legal immigration, until we can provide for like yes, I agree, until we can provide for veterans and homeless.
That's crazy that we're gonna allow people to come here illegally or legally and they're gonna either pull, draw from our welfare system.
Look, I actually, you know, I think you can actually to some degree have welfare, but you definitely can't have welfare and, uh well, a lot of either legal immigration or definitely can't have illegal immigration.
Yeah, so Australia is a prime example for this.
Like Australia is literally collapsing right now.
We have like a mixed socialized, Socialized system.
I've been taken to the hospital in an ambulance.
It was free in Australia.
To a degree, you get free health care, all of these things.
But now, because of all of the illegals that they have imported, it's drained the system so much that Australians are dying because ambulances are not arriving in time.
The hospitals, there's literally not enough beds for Australians inside of the hospitals.
It's causing the breakdown in the fabric of society in Australia.
And this is not just me talking from not knowing.
Like, I haven't been there in 10 years, but my family's there.
And the other thing is, when you're subservient to your government because they're just giving you stuff, when the government says jump, your response is how high?
That's why we have freedoms in the United States because we're not relying on big daddy government.
During COVID lockdowns, it was complete tyranny in Australia, tyranny, because the government was able to tell them, hey, you can't go outside, you can't do this, you can't do that, because everyone was subservient to them.
Nearly every single week, my mom would call me and say, I'm so grateful that you're in the United States because you still have some semblance of freedom there.
Women's Military Conscription Rights00:15:27
Can I say we hit a couple different points here?
So, can I say something about the abortions?
Or we're not going into that?
Well, here's maybe time permitting, we can get into it.
But I was talking about what duties do women have, and you were saying, well, women can be forced.
Then you brought up abortion.
Yeah, the government can't force women to get pregnant.
But you can force birth because you cannot get an abortion.
Yeah, but this wouldn't be a duty.
This wouldn't be a bad thing.
Accountability as women should be provided because, yes, if you are living in a state and you're not using right protection or doing anything to protect getting pregnant when you know you cannot get an abortion, then that's on the woman.
But it really depends where you are and how you reflect on your actions, I feel like.
I'm going to follow up with that.
First, I have a couple chats coming in here.
I'm going to let them come through.
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Question for each panelist.
Do you support women's suffrage?
What?
Suffrage women.
Women's right to vote.
Are you in favor of it?
Yes.
Yeah.
He was asking that.
Yeah.
No.
I don't know.
I don't really know too much about that.
Okay.
Yes.
Yeah.
My husband just gets two votes, so.
W. Married households should vote.
Married households should vote.
And then I think he has another one coming in here.
Thank you, Ogle.
Really good to see you, man.
It's been a while.
Thank you, man.
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Question for panelists.
Should a man be able to unilaterally terminate a pregnancy?
What is the question?
I think they have a say in abortion or law.
Do they?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The question is.
Should they determine?
Unilaterally.
I think it should be 50.
Honestly, 50-50.
But depending on where this relationship is, financially emotionally, the woman should have a majority of the say because it's affecting her body and affecting both of their lives.
So I feel like that should be like a communication for the two and not one person's decision.
The question here would simply be: assuming the woman wants to keep the pregnancy, should the man be able to force the woman who otherwise wants to keep the pregnancy to get an abortion?
No, but I think he has the option to not be in the baby's life.
He doesn't, though.
But I don't know if you heard that, Bella.
Do you want to get popcorn?
I'm just against abortion, period.
Oh, talking about the choice, yeah.
If he doesn't want to have the choice to force the woman to get an abortion if she doesn't want it, like, if he doesn't want it, wait into the mic, please.
If he doesn't want it, yeah.
That's an interesting one.
Even pro-choice people are going to fight you on that one.
I'm against abortions, and especially if they both were willing having sex, both consent to it, they shouldn't have an option to kill it.
What about you?
Um, I think the guy should have a say.
You know, it's his child.
Again, the question is: the woman wants to keep the kid.
Should the man be able to force her to get an abortion if he doesn't want to have a kid?
I think he should, because you know, I mean, if we have the choice to not keep the baby, and it just depends on the law, you know, right?
Like, he's gonna have to be pro-choice or pro-life.
You could say pro-choice, I just don't care.
Even pro-choice people are definitely not okay with this, but okay.
Um, what about you?
And pro-life crossboards, okay, pro-life.
So, the question is: if man woman's pregnant, she wants to keep it, he wants to abort it.
He can't force her to kill it.
Should he be able to be like, you gotta get an abortion?
Yeah, of course.
He can voice his opinion.
No, but like, legally, wow, I mean, obviously, the answer to the question is, yeah, no, I think whether you're pro-choice or pro-life, you're probably going to arrive at the same conclusion on that for most people, anyways.
But Ogle, really good to see you, man.
Thank you for your TTSs.
Appreciate it, guys.
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Okay, so I wanted to, I guess, come back to I'm still a bit caught up here.
So, the question is: do women have any duties to the like any duties?
They do not have legal duties.
No.
No legal duties.
That's the crux of my argument here: is that in order for men to have a right, it comes with a corresponding responsibility.
Women are afforded a essentially a privileged place in society because you don't have any duties.
Women don't have duties.
What's the men duty thing?
Yeah, they don't have military conscription, forced military conscription.
So, it's just like if they need the men, they have to go.
Yes, the government can force men to go to war.
The government can't force women to go to war.
There's not a law for it.
There's no law for it on the books.
And we see this playing out in many, many military conflicts.
For example, in Ukraine, we have a well, we got two Russian women here.
You see complete barbarism in Ukraine where you have military police abducting men.
Like it's you think what ICE is doing is fucked up.
Ukrainian military police abduct men in the street and then force them into the military.
All the men in Ukraine, when the Ukraine war broke out, had to stay in the country.
If you're between the ages of like 18 and 60 or 65, as a man, you could not leave the country.
If you're a woman, okay.
So, what you had happen when war broke out is all these 18 to well, pretty much any age Ukrainian woman went to London, they went to Sweden, they went to Stockholm, they went to Oslo, they went to Miami, they're in the club, they're having they're having their hot girl summer, they're fucking and Ukrainian men are dying.
So, you want to talk about privilege?
You want to, oh, women are so oppressed.
Nah, actually, I don't think anyone here said that's feminism, that's feminism.
Women oppressed, men oppressors, women oppressed, women had it worse.
That is feminism.
Are you denying that feminism, the lens and framework of feminism, is not women have it worse than men?
That is the entirety of feminism.
To be honest, I just thought it was about equality.
Yeah, but we already have us said it's worse than men.
Women have less rights than men.
But I don't think that's what anybody's doing.
But explain to me why after 100 years of equality, that women have no duty to the United States.
Women shouldn't be subject to military conscription.
They're not subject to the selective service.
They're not subject to the draft.
Why is that?
Why, if feminism is about equality, shouldn't feminists, but shouldn't feminists be actively fighting for women to be subject to military conscription?
Where are they?
Where are the feminists who are fighting for this?
I think your definition of feminism is completely different than what we're saying.
Yeah.
Like I'm not hitting with anything you're saying.
It's not his.
This is what the society is.
I don't care about definite.
So for example, if I were to define, hmm, what would I say?
If I were, well, tell me what your definition of feminism is.
Let's start there.
Just that.
Like, I just like women empowerment.
Like, we get to do we through feminism.
No, but I agree with you in the charitable sense.
I'm not saying that men and women have to have everything like exactly.
Like, I'm not saying that.
What was my situation?
I'm saying that we, like, women.
You gotta.
Like, we can work now.
We can own houses now and stuff like that.
They always could.
We couldn't.
I'm not going to like lie or gaslight.
There were some either bank policies or procedures or sometimes even laws that may have been or in fact were discriminatory towards women.
But those have all since been overturned because of the movement.
Right.
And we can have a discussion on the effects of that.
And look, I'm fine with it, really, I guess.
But ultimately, when we're talking about equality, I don't think you can ever make an argument that feminists really care about true equality.
Feminists.
You don't care about it, though, because you would be in the streets fighting for yourself and other women to be drafted.
But you're not.
You can't.
Okay.
There could be women that would want to do that.
There definitely is.
No, It's not about what women want.
Nobody wants to be drafted.
This is something that people don't, like, don't want to be.
Like, imagine advocating for something that would conceivably negatively affect you.
That's the issue with feminism.
You only seek equality in the ways and frameworks that would benefit women.
But arriving at equality where women will not reap a benefit, you will not fight for it.
In fact, if we do attempt to get equality between men and women, but it somehow inconveniences women, you'll actually fight against it.
You'll fight against the attempt for equality.
So you can't call feminism an equality movement if you would actually actively fight against equality to secure the benefits or privileges or rights for women that perhaps they have that are even better than men's own.
I don't see how just fight against the people having to get drafts.
Well, I think we should draft women.
Amy, you know, she wants to repeal the 19th century.
I personally have a radical.
I think, in fact, as a perhaps not revenge, but we should maybe only send women to war for a couple decades.
See how that goes.
But I think they're not going to die.
No, they're not going to talk to each other.
No.
But look, I think we should draft women.
Women should be drafted.
And there will be issues.
In Israel, there's a lot of women in the military.
We're speaking about women and all that stuff.
I think men should have the choice if they would like to be in the military.
See, that's where I come out with colleagues.
It's not just about women.
Yes, getting like what they want.
I feel like with equality, men and women should be equal.
Women get the choice if they want to be in the military.
Men should have the choice if they want to be in the military.
But that's the only reason why we have the army.
We do.
Well, the thing is, so you can volunteer, obviously, to be in the military, and women can volunteer too, which I actually think if women have the ability to voluntarily join the military, we should definitely be able to force women into the military.
Well, I don't think it should be forcing anybody.
What if we don't have an army?
Hold on.
But I agree with you in this.
We're not forcing anyone.
We'll die.
I'll address that super quick.
Russia's coming.
No bad things should ever happen.
There should never be war.
Nobody should ever be victim of a crime.
But while people are victims of crimes, like for example, you'd agree that in a society where there was never any crime, we wouldn't need police, right?
Right.
However, we live in an imperfect world where crime does exist.
And for this reason, we need police to either prevent or investigate crimes.
And so in that same way, we live in an imperfect world.
Even if we lived in the United States of America utopia, where things were perfect here, who knows?
Maybe there's a belligerent other nation that wants to come here and wants our resources, wants our land, or wants to rape our women.
And so we should have a military to defend against potentially aggressive outsiders.
Now, geopolitics has evolved really substantially, but I mean, in the past, the reason you had an army was basically like that tribe, that group, that state, that nation over there, they want our land.
And when they take our land, they're going to kill the men.
They're going to rape the women.
And so sometimes, well, I'll just say this.
You have people who volunteer for the military.
The government, nations, are not going to relinquish their ability to force its parentheses, male, citizenry into mandatory military service.
Because in some scenario where you had like some, well, I guess in any situation, you could always like change laws or whatever.
Even if they did away with the draft, you could just pass a new law.
Like, okay, we need to, we need a draft again.
So it's like, even if you did away with the draft, they would just pass new laws.
But given the fact that nations are not going to relinquish their ability to force their citizenry into potential military conflicts, I think from that perspective, we need to, we shouldn't be talking about what should be.
We have to talk about, okay, well, here's the scenarios.
Here's all the circumstances.
How should we arrange things given what is?
I'm not talking about what should be.
I'm talking about what is.
Since men do have to be who are forced, well, who have to be subject to military conscription, I think we should have women subject to military conscription too.
I would also just be in favor of, I'd be in favor of just getting rid.
Maybe this is more extreme than Amy's take.
It wouldn't be rolling back rights for women.
I think we should just get rid of universal suffrage entirely.
So it's not just women.
I think a lot of men probably shouldn't be voting too.
I think it should be you have a stake in the country and you can get that stake through military service.
I think probably more men would take that trade.
I want to vote.
I'm going to join the military.
But women would be able to do that too.
They can volunteer too.
And that way women can get the right to vote.
I think you can do other things too.
Like you could do, You know, you own land or something like that.
Women can, yeah.
Why is it that women aren't required to be drafted?
Uh, why is it that women aren't uh because there's a law?
Well, yeah, but why?
Because when they were fighting for the right to vote, they weren't like well, but also sign us up for the military.
Well, there's a couple reasons.
It's there's a couple reasons.
So, the first is uh, women are not, I'm not trying to be offensive, uh, women are not uh particularly good soldiers in combat.
So, why would you want equality?
How about this?
Uh, the one who's child-free, the one who's child-free, they can be drafted.
The one who wants to stay home, I have a kids, they just stay home with their husbands.
Reasons for Draft Exemption00:02:51
I don't see that it's as simple as like, do you believe that equal rights should come with equal responsibilities?
And if your answer to that is yes, then that means that you should be down for the draft.
And if you're not down for the draft, then you do believe in women's supremacy, which is Brian's functional definition for feminism in 2026.
It's really that simple.
Do you believe that equal rights should come with equal responsibilities?
And if your answer is no, I wouldn't want to be drafted, then you do, by virtue of that, believe in woman's supremacy, even if you haven't thought of it that way.
I can see that.
I agree.
I mean, I do think responsibility.
Sorry, yeah.
No, I do think that the responsibilities and the requirements should be the same, it should be equal.
I don't, I take it back.
I'm not going to war.
So, you're not a feminist anymore?
Let's go.
She's not a feminist anymore, Brian.
We red-pilled her.
Let me fight for my question.
But if you really think about it, and this doesn't just apply to the United States, this applies to almost any country where you have universal suffrage.
There's like maybe two or three countries where women have to do mandatory military service.
The rest, it's exclusively either subject to military conscription or you actually actively, they do in a lot of countries, men have mandatory military service.
It's not just well, in wartime, draft time.
No, like I think in Israel, right?
In a lot of Asian countries, a lot of the men have to, maybe I shouldn't say a lot of Asian countries, but I think it's the Philippines.
I think there's a couple of I don't know the exact Asian countries.
There is mandatory military service for men.
I'm not sure if the UK, I'm not sure, but I think the UK women can be drafted because I think they brought that in like three years ago.
No, you come there.
Yeah, women can be drafted.
It got brought in.
I'm pretty sure.
Obviously, I'm not sure.
Just know if you've got like mental health problems.
Yeah.
And the UK, I'm sure everyone.
Can you Google it, please?
Because we could be wrong, but I think UK can women.
Because I remember a couple of years ago being in the talks, but obviously I'm not sure if it actually does happen.
Currently, there's no conscription draft in the UK for men or women.
Service is entirely voluntarily.
Yeah, we don't get women eligible for combat roles, but that's not related.
In Israel, unless you have a reason not to go, so you're supposed to go.
Like, you have to get a reason not to go to the army.
Religion, for women, it's religious reasons.
I didn't go because of religious reasons.
Or if you're not capable, like medically for guys.
What if she's pregnant?
No, that's yeah.
I think that's a good idea.
But it's because you're incapable of Israel is a very small country, so it's in need, I guess, more.
IQ Test Ratings00:09:35
Yeah.
Oh, we're going to get into okay.
Uh, ask everyone to rate their own looks face, body, total on a scale of zero to ten.
You can't pick seven, so give me uh zero to ten for face, body, and then total, starting with you.
Face 10, body 10.
Period.
So total 10, I'm assuming.
Total 20.
Well, you don't add that up, but 10 out of 10.
Okay, we get it.
What about you?
I think face like 8, body 9.
8, 9, so 8.5 or 8.5, I guess.
What about you?
10 all around.
10, 10, 10?
Okay.
Amy, what about you?
Phase 6, body 8.
No, you're a 10.
You can't pick 7.
I would have picked 7.
I would have picked 7 also.
I'd like to.
Send you the one above 7.
What about 8?
Face 8, body 8.
Wait.
Okay, 8.
What about you?
Can I say something first?
Okay, I'll say.
Sure.
Phase 6, body 3, all around 5.
But I want to say something.
It doesn't mean my confidence.
I'm just, I feel like I'm just very accurate to what the beauty standards are.
And I'm not standing there.
Tens are people like Margaret Robbie or whatever.
Yeah, like we can't be.
The question is not how confident you are, how much you love yourself.
Because if so, I would say a nine, let's say.
But I'm just, in reality, I know that I'm around a five or a six or whatever.
So it doesn't mean that I don't think I'm pretty analogy of that.
Face five, body five.
Girl, at least a 10.
But I know the boys love me in Miami, so the boys love me in Miami.
You're so hot.
There's no way you're a five.
They love you every face.
Hey, I just don't want any backlash.
How can you at least be a ten?
I know.
I'm sorry.
Honestly, you've been being very high up on my scale.
And I'm biased.
I am high in the Miami.
So I'm just like not much.
What about you?
It's five across the board.
Okay, what about you?
Well, I'm Russian, so I think it's like maybe phase four and body three and a half for that.
Okay.
I give myself a 4.5, 4.5, 4.5 across the board.
Oh, we could do 0.5s.
I didn't know.
Oh, yeah.
It is what it is.
Is that the rating for yourself?
You are higher than average.
That's my rating.
Can you rate us?
Yeah, let's do that.
I would love this.
Yes.
Yep, we'll do that.
We'll do that.
We'll do it.
Give it to me.
Roast us.
It's cool.
What is it?
Pump the brakes there.
Okay.
What's that?
Yeah, we'll do that in just a moment.
We'll do the looks ratings in just a moment, but I have a few more questions for you guys.
Going around the table, rate your personality on a scale of 0 to 10.
Okay.
I'd say I have some questionable qualities about my personality.
I'd say like an 8.
Wait, hold on.
Let's dive into that.
Questionable.
Questionable qualities about my personality.
Bipolar, are you?
What's going on?
No, not bipolar.
She stems too much.
I'm just a little autistic.
I would say I'm autistic.
I'm diagnosed Autistic.
You have autism?
Yeah.
Me too.
Me too.
Oh, really?
Twins?
Twinsies.
Well, I think, I mean, does autism.
So, okay, are you like socially awkward?
How does it manifest itself?
Well, I'm very dyslexic.
I have very bad ADHD.
When the camera hits a certain angle, you just see me kicking my feet this whole time.
But that doesn't mean that your personality is lies.
I would say it reflects on my personality.
It makes me funny.
I'm not going to lie.
Like, it makes me funny.
I have very literally the same exact answer as Ren.
She's saying that, like, I love my personality.
I would say I love her personality.
10 all-around, but like we can't hang around anyone because some people are.
Oh, you look at this.
Like, holy shit.
Shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
Like last week, someone we have a conversation literally just like overlapping each other.
Like, only a flow state to be the truth.
I think you guys have really good personalities.
No, like, I love my personality.
I just do say there's some qualities about it that scares me.
It's an explosive.
What was the rating?
I like how you said it makes you think 8.5, actually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Personality score?
Like a 7.
7?
10.
No shame.
Hell yeah.
I'd say probably about an 8 as well.
Yeah.
What about you?
I'd say to the public, probably around a 4, but like to my close friends and people that know me, probably a 9.
You're a 10.
Okay.
I would say a 9.5.
In personality.
Yeah, 10.
Personality is a 10.
Okay.
I guess a 9.
All right.
What about you?
7.
All right.
What about you?
Yeah.
We don't want the table.
4.5 again?
It's hard to say, you know.
Hey, Brian, are we getting pizza?
Are you allowed to?
Yeah, probably later, though.
It's going to be later.
Are you hungry?
Yeah, yes.
I'm hungry.
This is cookies.
I give myself.
I don't know.
I know I, well, we can pick seven for this one.
I'll go with seven.
Okay, good.
I'll go with seven.
I'll go with seven.
All right.
What?
Hmm.
Let me see if there's any other ratings that we have.
How smart?
Oh, yeah, that's a good one.
I feel like.
What do you rate your intelligence on the scale of 0 to 10?
All around?
Yeah, I guess.
Autism probably helps.
Yeah, I mean, dyslexia does help with that.
I would say it's probably like, oh, okay, wait a minute.
It's also based on how much knowledge you have.
I feel like it's 6.5.
6.5?
Okay.
Like at home scale, so like a 5.
Okay.
Wait, who here has taken an IQ test?
Anybody take an IQ test?
When I got diagnosed with dyslexia, a little closer to the mic.
Oh, when I was diagnosed with dyslexia, they had to do like an IQ test on me.
Okay.
I forget what the number it was, but it was pretty high.
Okay.
Okay, girl.
Intelligence.
Oh.
What'd you say?
It's kind of mature.
Well, because I'm like more educated on like specific topics because I like hyper-fixate on something and I just know a dummy amount of things about it.
So autism.
Something else.
I have no idea what I'm talking about.
So I was.
I mean, if 10 is like Einstein, right?
I mean, it's my job to be informed about what's going on in the world.
However, when it comes to things like math, I literally don't know my times tables.
I know my nines and my tens and my ones.
You know what I mean?
Like, sorry, it just depends.
I'd say overall maybe like 7.5.
I'll give myself a 5.
Okay.
By the way, on all these scales, 5 would be average.
Some people.
I think it's worth clarifying because some people might look at it from the school grading.
They'll think like, oh, a C, which would be a 70.
Like, that's average.
No.
It's not like the school grading.
What about?
I would say based on knowledge and also math and all that, probably.
I don't want to be too cocky, but an eight.
An eight.
Is it eight?
Numbers of pies.
What's this?
With serenity.
Serenity, can we?
I forgot to go over this.
Can we just have you like scoot it in?
Because here, I'll just explain super quick.
We have this angle here.
Yeah.
But like what ends up happening, you can be out of frame a little bit.
So just try to scoot in a little.
That was my mistake for nothing.
No, it's okay.
No, I keep moving.
I move around a lot.
Sorry.
I would say five average.
Five average.
Okay.
What about you?
I go with a 7.5.
Okay.
What about you?
7.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe a 6 or 7 for me, anyways.
6 or 7.
So like a 6.5.
Maybe it could be around there.
It's hard to see.
I'm saying based on the women I've met, and especially in the States, no offense, they have a lack of knowledge.
The education system.
Yeah.
It's not fucking awesome.
Well, it's also, there's different kinds of intelligence.
But I took an IQ test.
What'd you get?
121.
But I also took it.
I took it two, three years ago at like 5 a.m. I was tired as fuck and I took it on my iPad.
Before I was going to go to the house, I was doing an IQ test.
Right before I went to the bottom.
Yeah, that's the best test.
So I think maybe I could have gotten a few points higher.
And I took the you got to be careful with these ones.
Excuses.
I know.
Don't you have to pay money for them?
I always wanted to have a free one.
Oh, really?
Because you're Norway Mensa.
You remember?
It was like two years ago.
Texted me.
The Norway Mensa IQ test.
It's free.
They're not going to do this.
You do the whole thing and then they ask you for payment to know the results.
Yeah, that's fucking bullshit.
Yeah, I did that.
This one, it's totally free.
I mean, unless they change something.
Can you write it down for me?
I actually want to like it.
Yeah, are you writing it down for me?
Yeah, it's Norway.
Oh, tell us that it's an IQ test.
I'll remind you guys off.
You can Google that.
You'll find the test.
Jackie Chan On Beauty Standards00:12:25
So, yeah.
But the problem with some of these IQ tests is you can take different ones and get like really different, like 10, 20, 30 points differences.
So you got to be.
Some of them are just trying to kind of cater to your ego a little bit.
Some of them are kind of bullshit, but whatever.
It's like ChatGPT at gaslights you all the time.
Just like Chat GPT.
Okay.
You can kind of get how you treat it.
Oh, yeah, I did see that.
That was funny.
For the women who are, we have.
I'm just going to stick with you three.
So we have 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 8, 9.
Can you tell me a male celebrity, like somebody we could Google, who's like either your celebrity crush.
She's ready.
Or who you think is a 10.
Matthew McConaughey.
Who?
He's cute.
Wait, really?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
He's like, it is.
Damn, she gave me the shade.
Right.
Matthew McConaughey.
Shit.
I can't lie.
I know him.
I'll get you guys to get it.
Wait, you do?
Yeah, I'll link you guys up.
I think he's married, though, right?
Oh, shit.
I'm not a homeworker.
Would you wait, but he's so for real.
If he was single, completely.
Even if he's married, you're no, no, I want to do that to no lady.
If she already is married to him, go, girl.
She's already married to him.
I don't know who it is.
I don't want to know.
I'll get you guys.
Okay, so I think everybody knows who Matthew McCaugh is.
How about anybody else?
I don't.
Oh, you don't marry Google, please.
Is it any other guy?
I don't know.
I wouldn't say he's like a actually, no.
Ryan Gosling, is that who acted in the notebook?
Yeah.
Yeah, him.
Okay, do like young.
Yeah, show us Matthew and Ryan Gosling.
And then who's a 10 male for you?
Jackie Chan.
Come on.
I know he's an ass.
I mean, like Asians?
Yes, I'm deadass.
Jackie Chan.
He's 70.
I don't care about that.
He used to be good looking on his young age.
Look, I mean, he's like.
Have you sold what he looks like even out of 70?
He's a pretty handsome guy.
Right.
No.
Okay, wait, girl, hold on.
Honestly, so hot.
Get this girl a kilt.
I love you.
I hear crack.
This is Shosmary.
Show us Mary.
This is not cool.
You like him?
I'm very different than you.
Is it his looks or his accent, though?
All the above.
Bro, he's quite good.
Yeah.
He's like a conservative man, super conservative.
He is very young.
You would still do that?
She's his looks.
She only plays play.
She'll give him a pass on that, I guess.
Okay, and then who was the other guy?
Do you have that, Mary?
Yeah, look up the link.
We all know that.
Go ahead.
Oh, yeah.
See my type.
Wait, boy.
All right.
Who's a Jackie Chan?
Okay, Bella, what about you?
I don't know that many celebrities, so I was going to say.
Like TikTok or somebody.
Anybody famous, right?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, young Will Smith.
Yeah, well.
Okay, so is that your type?
Black guys?
Oh, my God.
What?
I don't have a specific preference, but like, I kind of.
Okay.
No, this is a story.
Okay, we know who Will Smith is.
Wait, question: the guy who it's complicated with, is he black?
She got a type, okay.
She's got a type.
You got a type.
That's okay.
That's okay.
Look, I'm partial to white, Asian, and Latina women.
That's what I'm saying.
That's multiple types, I guess.
I don't know.
That's like you don't have a type.
They look different.
Yeah, but anyway.
Very different.
But, okay, she has a type.
She's got.
What was that?
Can you check?
Did something spill?
What fell?
Oh, okay.
Sorry, guys.
Behind the scenes, not a big deal.
Not a big deal.
Okay.
Oh, Natalia.
Thank you for the gifted 20 whatever memberships.
Guys, W's in the chat for the homie, Natalia.
Very much appreciate your support.
Thank you, Natalia.
And okay, so fucking Jackie Chan.
What the fuck?
He's so.
Are you joking?
He's so hot.
I have seen him younger, and I can agree with you.
Oh, who's the other martial arts guy?
Bruce.
Yeah, for sure.
No, no, no.
There's another guy.
Athletic guy.
I see.
Jetly, do you fuck with me?
I don't know.
Fill him up.
Probably.
Jet Lee.
I mean, Jet Lee kind of mogs Jackie Chinese.
Really?
Let me see.
Jet Lee mogs FLO.
Jackie Chan's horror.
Wait, this is.
He's cute.
She's really cute.
She's cute.
Do you look at younger pictures?
It's not a bad looking guy.
These are older guys, though, Simon.
Okay.
Tell me a woman who you think is a 10.
Oh, woman.
Oh.
Oh, wait.
You should let me think more on this one.
Madison Beer.
Oh, Angelina Jolie.
Megan.
Young Megan Fox.
Young Megan Fox.
Yeah.
Okay, what about you?
Taylor Swift.
What?
Okay.
She looks.
She's pretty.
Taylor's a big woman.
She's gorgeous.
Maybe in Scotland.
She's a Scotland 10 or something.
She's Barbara Paulin.
I don't know.
Barbara.
She's a good one.
Medicine beer.
Oh, yeah.
Wait, can you?
You can't eat at the table like that.
You got to eat back there.
Oh.
Popcorn's going to be way too noisy until.
Why are you taking one?
Take one.
I don't want one on pain.
As male.
She's got a high.
What's it called?
Where's that pink?
Appetite.
Metabolism.
Metabolism.
Didn't you hungry truth?
Yeah, we can get it a little later, though.
Bang into the mic.
Okay.
So.
Megan Fox.
Yeah.
And then Angelina Jolie.
So you're a 10.
She's those are 10s in your eyes.
They're like 20s in my eyes.
No, but you can't go above a 10.
Do you think Sidney Sweeney's a 10?
No.
Sorry.
You look like you're gorgeous.
You're her twin.
I don't.
People always tell me I look like Sidney Sweeney, but I don't.
I don't believe maybe like younger Sidney Sweeney.
I could see it more, but like you guys have similar, some similarities.
I think we're like, I think she's also like, I like looked this up the other day.
She's like German European.
No, I don't think she's European.
Is she?
German is European.
Can you look up what she is?
Because I'm pretty sure that's like the same exact thing as I am, and that's why people tell me I'm like, we'll just take your word for it.
She's a little green-eyed blondie, too.
European.
You probably mog her a little bit.
Thank you.
Face in the face department.
Someone commented the bus compartment.
Yeah.
She totally must have been.
She doesn't even have big boobs, honestly.
They're not that big.
Oh, wait, girl.
That's why.
She's got like D's.
F. They're not that big.
I think she's far more attractive.
For her body, she has big boobs.
Yeah, she does.
She has big boobs.
Let's not pill up.
What is her breast?
Okay, we don't need to talk about her body.
Of course, you're going to.
Yeah, all women compared to you have 10 boobs, okay?
Damn.
Yeah, I want to show you guys.
I'm going to really quick pull up some photos, though.
Mary, if you can pull up the Discord, these are some women who I don't know if I would give them tens, but because I don't think 10 exists, but I definitely, I think we could probably confidently say that they're nines, maybe definitely at least eights.
Mary, go ahead and pull it up.
Oh, Angela White.
She's a well, no, hold on.
Except, hold on.
The bottom one, don't show that one.
Like the next one?
Yeah, yeah.
That's like.
That's like my personal preference.
Yeah, they're like Asian looking.
We have the same tension.
No, show the.
There's the groupings.
Remember, we went over it.
Tate McCray is also so hot.
It starts with like Adriana.
Adriana.
Yeah, yeah.
Here, show the first girl, though.
Go ahead.
Tape the crazy.
All right, so I'm going to show you some photos.
I'm showing you some photos here of some women.
Next, Adrian Pilima.
Oh, yeah, Adrenalima.
Adrenalima.
She's gorgeous.
Is that Adam Sandler's wife?
Justin Timberlake.
Justin Timberlake.
Jessica Gillie.
Oh, Justin Timberlake.
Next.
Purchase.
Next.
Purchase.
These are yours.
Is that what you said?
I mean, these are just women.
Good.
Women are so beautiful.
Right?
Next.
Wow.
Now, Jessica Alba, some people, you know, she's very petty.
I think she's gorgeous.
She's gorgeous.
She's very attractive.
I think she's one of them.
They have that 2000s look to them, too.
Yeah.
And those women are just dropped.
Naturally, Y2K.
Next.
Now, these, I think, are.
Go off.
She's also a lovely person.
Yeah.
You've met.
She's a lovely person.
Is that a female?
It is technically a male, but that is for destroy hair.
She.
Yeah.
So, anyways, but seeing those pictures.
Still 10, still 10?
Yep.
I would say now.
Listen, when I hear older, that's what I strive for.
I would say now for Mia too.
Bro, look at them.
They're unreal.
Look at your eyes.
You have gorgeous eyes.
Okay, so they're unreal.
You're gorgeous.
Stick to what you first saw before seeing those women.
Yes.
See that other woman drop your comparison is the thief of joy.
It doesn't mean that I think I'm more confident than most of the women I know.
It doesn't mean that I'm less confident.
I love myself and I think I'm very confident.
I'm just in reality that I don't look like them.
I think a very attractive trait is women who live in reality, to be honest.
Like even a very attractive woman.
It's an attractive personality trait to live in reality and to be able to look at somebody like that, compare yourself and say, okay, yeah, I'm not quite there.
I mean, or very far away from there.
A lot of guys hit on me.
And I don't think it's because I look that good.
It's just because of how you compare yourself.
Don't be sad.
It's not bad.
I'm not reality.
I'm genuinely gorgeous.
But I'm not saying I'm not.
I'm fine.
I'm just saying I'm not like them.
And yeah, personality-wise, my humor, my smartness, all I have other things that make me more attractive, and that's fine.
Everyone has, you know, their qualities.
Here's a question: Do are all women tens?
No, no, no.
Beautiful.
Closer to the menu.
Okay, but they're not all women are beautiful.
Are all men beautiful?
Yeah, no.
I agree.
Yep.
Everybody.
Everyone has their own type of beauty.
Even me.
Okay, but they're not 10.
I think you're a 10.
You're a beauty and a beast.
What does it mean to be a 10?
I think it doesn't always conclude looks.
Well, we're talking about looks.
Okay, that's what I said.
If we're talking about me about overall, there's different types of standards of beauty, I feel like.
Do you want to cook?
I don't know.
Honestly, concept.
Hold on.
I don't see concept.
You could look at somebody and think that they're a four, and then I could look at that same person and think it's a four.
But we're talking about beauty standards.
But we're talking about beauty standards.
We can all agree that Adriana Lima is a 10, right?
We're talking about beauty standards.
We're not talking about types.
But he also showed Adriana Lima when she was 20, right?
She was 20.
That's your height.
She's like 45.
She was a 10 when she was 20.
She's still a 10.
Is she still a 10 in your mind?
She has because she looks really good then.
She's like objective beauty standards, right?
Like, for example, symmetry is one of the most objective beauty standards out there.
Like, even when it comes to like architectural stuff like this, you know what I mean?
Have you guys ever seen that flip effect where you can like kind of flip your face and see how symmetrical you are?
I think that symmetry really contributes to it.
Also, weight.
And weight.
Weight as ability.
Beauty Standards Debate00:02:32
Because how?
Yeah.
Because I've lost 60 pounds and I'm on a weight loss journey for the past a year and a half.
I feel like I'm more in, like, I go to the gym four or five times a week.
So I'm a very healthy person, but I'm still out of weight.
I'm losing a constant.
Hello?
Audio analyst.
Now we can say whatever we want.
Do you guys hear us?
Hello.
Testing one, two, three.
Hey, hello.
Pick some up, Bella.
Oh, what's up?
Oh, I lost you on.
I have sir.
Sienna Spur reposed my cover of her and that was the most beautiful thing I went.
Can you sing some of it?
No, but you can follow me at Bella's Vocals on Take.
Oh, come on.
Why does singers do this?
Why are they like ashamed to sing?
I sound so much better when I'm not like any of them.
She will really call her anything.
Well, there's thousands of people here.
It could help boost.
Well, the microphone.
Why don't you bust the cheering?
Come on, bust it up.
Why don't we do a little practice run right now?
What's the duet?
Yeah, the mic is not working.
Yeah, it's a good practice run.
It's back.
They're saying it's back.
Is it fixed?
They're saying it's back.
There's another way that it might have been accidental, but Alina, ask them if it's fixed.
Is it fixed?
Is the audio fixed?
Alina, can you ask them how long?
How long has it been out?
How long has the audio been out?
Was it like just one minute?
How long?
How long has the audio been out?
10 minutes?
30 seconds.
Two minutes.
Okay.
You have to slow you down.
All good.
Bella, start singing.
All right.
Back we are.
At Bella's vocals.
Bella's vocals.
Okay.
Hold on one sec.
Yo, really quick for somebody in the Discord.
Noe.
Facial Ratings Discrepancies00:14:35
Noe, did you want to do the looks ratings things?
Do you have the info on that?
Or I can delay the little bit or you can send me a message in the DMs on Discord.
I don't even know if you're watching, but sorry about the audio issue there, guys.
I don't know if we missed anything.
I was actually able to spot it instantly because of the 300 IQ.
Oh, I think you meant the 121.
300 IQ.
Okay.
So we're trolling now.
you must hate though like it must get to you know how tall people oh do you play basketball yeah You get, oh, you look like Sydney.
Yeah.
I would be so annoyed.
I have been.
No, because I'm at this party, right?
I walk up to CI of my friends immediately.
I was like, I asked for something.
It's, you look like Sidney Sweeney.
I walk away.
Walk away right now.
You've heard it a thousand times.
I can't get enough of it.
That was a compliment.
It's not like you look like someone ugly.
I just know.
I feel like this is what I always tell people.
I feel I look like my own person.
I never, I used to never think I looked like anybody like elsewhere in this world.
And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, you're awesome.
You look like autistic, Sidney Swiss.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm just saying.
Oh my god.
That's not even what I'm saying.
I'm my own person.
I am my own person.
I feel like I look like Serenity.
Okay, can you rate us?
No.
Yeah, yeah, I can do that.
Yes.
We'll do it.
We'll do that.
Why not?
Let's do it.
We will do that segment.
Okay, so I'll give ratings here.
Okay, Bella is dying.
Bella is dying.
Wait, really quick before I get into this segment.
So wait, Bella, your boyfriend, not really boyfriend, but guy who you have been hooking up with for like a year, but you don't have a title.
Does he live here in the area?
He lives here.
He dropped us off.
I saw him.
So, wait, okay.
But you started, because you're not from Santa Barbara, and you just moved here like a couple months ago, like four or five, six months ago, something like that.
The beginning of July.
Yeah, so six months.
Did you know him?
Before?
Yeah.
No.
Oh, okay.
And it's not been a year.
It's been like four months.
Oh, four months.
Okay, I see.
I don't know.
My perception of time is not great.
Wait, wasn't it complicated with a different guy back then?
Yeah.
So this is a new guy.
Yeah.
That was a boyfriend.
Okay, that was a boyfriend, but it was complicated with him.
Yeah.
Okay.
Wait, question.
Current boyfriend, whatever.
Situationship.
It's a black guy?
Yes.
Last boyfriend, black guy?
No.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Just curious, you know, about types.
It's very checkerboard.
Checkerboard.
Checkerboard.
Latino?
Nope.
Oh, white guy.
Yes.
Because it's black and white.
I've seen like brown and black and white thinking.
White and whatever.
Checkerboard.
Wait, red?
Isn't there a red checkerboard?
Isn't it red and black?
He was ginger, actually.
Oh, lovely.
Oh, that makes sense then.
That checks out.
He was ginger.
All right, let's see.
I'm going to give the reading.
All right.
Okay, here's the ratings.
I have to, of course, start with myself.
I'll give you one positive, one negative, and then the rating.
Even if I've disagreed with you, I'm not going to be malicious and rate you unfairly low just because we disagreed on something.
I will try to be as unbiased as possible.
Just vote.
Just vote.
Yeah, I got to give a bit of a disclaimer.
Got a bit of a bit of a disclaimer.
Okay, my own rating.
I gave myself a 4.5.
This is because I, let's see, I'll give one positive.
Tall, blue eyes.
I'm 6'1.
Negatives, fat.
You're chubby.
Why'd you keep saying that?
Need to lose weight.
Need to lose weight.
Big nose.
Wait, I thought I was only supposed to do one positive, one negative.
I'm just going to go.
Oh, my God.
Keep going.
You're very critical.
People are critical of themselves, so fuck it.
Why not?
Are you okay?
Everybody gets it.
Big nose, chubby, need to lose weight, skin clarity, and poor under-eye area.
I'll leave it there.
And yeah, I'll leave it there.
4.5, 4.5.
Wait, what was the last one?
I quote?
Oh, poor under-eye area.
Oh, okay.
Dark circles.
I think I like dark circles.
I'm like, how are you moderating?
All right.
Timu Sidney Sweeney over here.
Lil Siswe do.
Yes, okay.
Let's do a facial analysis.
Can you turn that way just for a moment?
Okay, strong side profile.
Although there could be actually pretty strong, I want to say, overall.
I'm trying to see if I see any flaws.
Maybe the one immediate flaw.
Just keep looking straight.
Do you have a negative canthal tilt?
Maybe a little bit.
A little bit of a weak under eye area.
What does it hint to tilt?
Oh, the canthal tilt is like if you have downturned eyes or up.
Oh, one of my eyes is a different, almost a little bit of a different shape than the other one because I was in a car.
Yeah, there is very slight difference in facial symmetry, but it's super minor.
Like lips well above average because typically you want to have a good bottom lip, but top lip also good, which is less common in white people, I know.
I get that a lot.
Yeah, good lips.
Possibly a bit too much.
Like the mid-face is a bit compact.
You have a restaurant.
No, I don't think you have a resting bitch face.
Oh, thank you.
No.
Really?
You look very sweet.
Perhaps you do.
Yeah, overall, you know, chat.
Also, guys, while I'm doing this, chat, what do you give, what's the rating?
What do you give?
Can we see the chat?
Wait, can you pull up the chat?
What?
There's 10,000 comments.
There's a lot.
No, 10,000 people.
Oh, there's more.
There's more than that.
10,000 people are watching.
Okay, what's her rating?
Yeah, yeah, I'd give the rating.
I would say, hmm, it's an interesting one.
Interesting one.
I want to say 6.5 or 7.
What?
Thank you.
That's crazy.
Oh, I don't care.
I don't care, girl.
Nine.
She's women.
I would say she's women.
She's the prettiest girl that was on the podcast.
Just some context for the ratings here.
So five is average.
Five is average.
And five is good.
Like, you can obviously be attractive at five.
So six, that's.
I'd say six is cute.
Six is cute.
Seven is beautiful.
The waist were going to be this before you said this.
Eight is like elite tier.
Nine is like you said.
That's like, yeah, no, I get you.
I get it.
I get what you're putting down.
I thought it was like.
Yeah, like, okay.
Five average, six cute.
Or the comment.
Seven.
Seven should be attractive.
I think more friends like me.
Seven could be beautiful.
Eight is like model tier, elite tier.
Yeah.
And then not, well, maybe nine.
You don't think she can model so many different kinds of models.
I think you can model phonogenic.
You can model him though.
So well.
Very good looking, but you guys are too sweet.
Like I said, I speak reality.
Okay.
You by the way, I'm doing face ratings.
I'm not incorporating body or whatever.
I thought it was everything.
Maybe it does rate our bodies.
But you keep everything down.
Yeah, I can't say.
I mean, if you guys want to stand up, we're not doing three things.
Nah, not a good check, then I could.
Also, I think there can be a bit more.
I think body can be a bit more subjective.
I mean, they're both subjective.
For sure.
But I think there's more disagreement on a little bit because, well, anyway.
Yeah, but you could see if someone has a pretty face.
Yeah.
Okay.
For you, can you pop your glasses off temporarily?
No, I can't see, bro.
Well, it's for a second.
30 seconds.
All right.
I can't see.
Okay.
Look straight.
Bro, I can't fucking see.
It doesn't matter.
Turn that way.
Fuck your vision.
I'm like, you can't see a thing.
Hey, girl.
Okay.
You can't see a thing.
Look back straight.
Okay.
Let's see.
I honestly can't, like, it's so bad.
What is the perception of the magazine?
No, this is like negative seven negatives.
Are you being crudely honest?
So, okay, I would say positive.
Eyesore.
Positive would be facial symmetry is decent.
Lips slightly above average.
Actually, the proportions are slightly off.
So typically you want a lower lip that's a little bit bigger.
Yeah, my lips are on the upper lip.
Your upper lip is actually.
It looks like a natural lip flip.
Looks like a natural lip flip Oh, do you have any?
I don't have any work done.
Yeah, your upper lip is bigger than your lower lip.
It's good to have a full upper lip, but the proportions are slightly off.
Although, so I give above average on the lips.
Obviously, you and me are on the same boat on this.
When you're a bit overweight, some of that goes to the face.
And so I have like facial fatness.
You start to get the jowls coming in a little bit.
And so I think probably one of the negatives is going to be because you and me, we both are, you know, need to hit Weight Watchers together.
I can stand up.
I have 0% body fat on my tummy.
Okay.
Well, from the lipo or whatever.
I've never had lipo.
No work on it.
You have 0% body fat on your belly over.
I'm very natural.
Sorry, everybody has body fat on your body.
I always say I have body fat, but I let you fix it.
I can stand up.
Okay, but there's laughter.
We're not doing body fat.
Also, face.
Yeah, no, my face is choppy for sure.
Yeah, and I mean, that's just going to be related to your overall body fat percentage.
And look, I say this as somebody who is overweight, who needs to lose weight.
It's going to have an impact on facial aesthetics.
So I would probably give you four, 4.5.
4.5, I think.
Bella.
Okay, Bella.
What's up, Twin?
I can see.
What's the gender?
Don't try to change his mind.
I don't know.
Twin.
Bro.
All right, Bella.
Where have you been?
Bella has pretty strong facial characteristics.
Can you turn that way?
Hey.
Hi.
Side profile, there are some strengths and some weaknesses.
Look back.
Okay.
Very feminine.
Very feminine face, which is obviously good.
You have good feminine dimorphism.
What are these two?
What is dimorphism?
We'll have to Google the shit after the show.
Look, keep your...
Probably the only thing...
Like, very strong feminine dimorphism for Bella.
It's like dimorphism.
I would say above average lips, good smile, good teeth, good skin clarity.
You don't wear too much makeup, right?
Depends on the occasion.
Like, are you wearing foundation or any of that?
No, I actually literally gave myself 10 seconds to get ready.
It was really difficult.
Proud of you.
Let's see.
Probably, like, honestly, one of the only negatives that occurs to me that stands out is I would say there's a bit of nostril show, which is you have a good nose.
Slightly there's a bit of nostril show.
Which I mean, it's super winter, but otherwise, I would say I want to say, wait, what did I give you?
Did I give you 6.5?
Yeah, you gave me 6.
Yeah, I'd put Belle in that range of 6 to 7.
But maybe I think I might settle.
Yeah, I think 6 to 6.5.
Maybe 7.
Maybe 7.
Come on, you don't want to say it?
six seven six seven six seven six seven um yeah so yeah Is there anything else?
Appreciate it, Twin.
And eyes.
Our eyes are like super dark.
Well, that's.
I think you can have like brown eyes can definitely be beautiful and attractive, but okay.
Where's our eyes are like super?
Look at our eyes, bro.
They're super dark, bread.
All right, our dear friend Amy here.
Do you have a mullet currently?
No, I'm just kidding.
A what?
It's an Australian.
Never mind, never mind.
Amy has very striking eyes.
She has very striking eyes.
She has, have you been?
I feel like I got fatter and you got trimmer.
Is that true?
Yeah, I probably worked.
I went through a very stressful period and lost a lot of weight, so I'm currently rebooting it back at the gym.
You got the this thing, you got good facial jobs.
It's good.
Thank you.
Good lips, good smile, good eyebrows.
I did have braces, so there's where.
Yeah, I think, I mean, maybe the only negative is I would say the facial thirds are perhaps slightly unequal.
Aside from that, pretty.
I would say I'd give you, I want to say 5.5 to 6.
I'll take it.
I gave myself a 6.
Thanks, Brian.
You over there, you gave yourself a 8, right?
If I recall.
I should have repeated everybody's ratings before I gave the ratings.
Whatever.
All right.
Let's see here.
Hmm.
Okay, positive.
Well, you have lip color, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's hard to make a determination on the true, like under if the lips are good underneath it all.
Her eyes are gorgeous.
Wait, oh, yeah, yeah, that's the one.
Adele's Performance00:09:21
Will she still love me?
Underneath it all.
Wait, what is that song?
What is that?
I have a singing up to me, bro.
Come on.
Okay, go ahead.
No, don't know it.
Do you know how to sing?
What's that Billy Joel?
Shit.
Oh, man.
I was just listening.
Wait, did we get a raid from Andrew Wilson?
I think he might have raided us.
Yo, did we get a raid, chat?
Did we get a raid?
Guys, we're doing looks ratings.
If you just tuned in from Andrew, chat, did he raid us?
Or I know he was doing a debate or streaming or whatever.
Anyways, whatever.
Nobody.
I was hoping he would be here.
Oh, it's no doubt.
No doubt.
Okay.
It's bugged, boys, I guess.
Okay.
You have nice blue eyes, although negative canthel tilt.
I'll just leave it there.
I think I'd give you.
I think I'd give you four.
You.
Okay.
Obviously, same boat.
We're on the weight loss journey together.
I just want to say I lost in the past year and a half 60 pounds, and I've been losing.
And I see how you see your features more.
And I know that in the summer, I'll be probably like Adriana Lee.
I'm joking, but probably higher.
But yeah, for now.
Okay, nice size.
But again, I already gave the negative, so I'm just going to go ahead and I'd probably say four for you.
For you.
Okay.
I'm good.
Be for real.
I'm second.
You're so hot.
Do you want me to tell you?
You have good.
Yeah, we could do that.
Good.
I think decent symmetry.
You are wearing quite a bit of makeup, though, so it's going to be a good thing.
I am.
I don't usually wear makeup, but today I have to.
It's going to be hard to give a rating.
Do you want to go on my Instagram?
I'd say I want to say 3.75, maybe 4.
You're joking.
Can you?
It's okay.
No, she's so hot, bro.
That's crazy.
Might just not be as tight.
I think she's into you.
I am obviously.
Of course I'm into you.
Looking gorgeous.
You guys can do your collab together, I guess.
Okay, we have gals over here.
I've already lingered on it for too long.
I want to say 4.5 to the gal here.
And then I also will give a 4.5.
We're at the same house.
Three big boobs.
I think you have a really beautiful face, though.
Thank you.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you.
I think if you were like a few sizes smaller, it would really, like he said, strengthen some of your face.
You have really nice lips and eyes.
Oh, yeah.
And pretty symmetrical.
Thank you.
I also think if you also lost weight, Brian, you would also probably be like, I'm going to pull up the old photos.
Let's see young grunts.
Yeah, sing on your Instagram.
These are so beautiful, I think.
Personally.
I mean, look, I used to be trim.
I used to be way a bit less.
Every chance you peel them up.
Yeah.
Can we talk about something new?
What's that?
Can we talk about something new?
Oh my God, Dolla.
My attention's done.
Oh, my God.
Do you want to know what we're talking about?
We're getting people to go.
Tell you what, Bella.
If this conversation is dull for you, what do you want to talk about?
Abortion.
Oral sex.
What do you want to talk about?
I could be down.
About what?
Abortion?
Abortion.
Or.
Or what?
Come back, bro.
What do you think about OnlyFans?
What do I think about OnlyFans?
No, no, no.
She gets it.
What do you want to talk about?
Give us something juicy, something interesting.
Oh, you really put me on the spot.
Can I get some ideas?
Can I like pick one?
Yo, Troy, Troy, thank you for the 10 on, I think, Venmo Cash Up.
What's up?
What you got for us, Bella?
Come on.
With your sterling conversational skills, tell us what you want to.
Let me know what you want to talk about.
I would love to talk about.
How about you sing?
Sing for us, Robin.
Yes!
Woo!
Sing for us.
Just a little bit.
Come on.
Let's do a plug yourself.
What is your favorite song?
You want to be a singer, and there's thousands of people here right now.
It's a great opportunity.
You'll never be famous with it if you don't capitalize on these types of remotes.
Longest time from Billy Joel.
Do you know that song?
Probably not.
For the longest time.
You know that sounds like no prize.
Who's your favorite artist?
Could pick.
What's one of your favorite?
Did you listen to rap music?
All right, what's your favorite?
Like, what are your favorite singers?
Amy Winehouse, Adele, Santa Spiro.
Let's hear some Adele.
Come on.
Hello, you're from the other side.
Let's go.
Please.
Bella, we're so bored.
Can you please sing?
Can you just sing, Bella?
Bella, can I sing with you?
He'll get pizza.
Yeah, let's use it.
Or pizza if she sings.
Yeah, I'll do it.
Yes, come on.
You have to do it now for all of us hungry girls.
Please.
I can't let you.
Let's go.
Listen.
Bella.
Please stay.
Sing with me.
Where you are.
Don't come any close.
Shut the fuck up.
Let her sing.
Oh, I thought we were going to sing together.
No, no, no.
Let her sing.
Whoa.
You got to let her sing a little bit about this.
She didn't want to sing on her own, so I was going to help her.
Wait, what were we singing?
Or even hit some Amy Winehouse.
Where was your voice?
To be clear, this girl in front of 10 people, she's too shy.
How are you going to sing on a stage?
Oh, I love a stage.
To me, a bigger crowd is way less scary than a smaller crowd.
That makes zero sense.
Because you can't see anyone's specific opinion.
If I was doing this podcast in front of like 10,000 people, that would be like way more intense.
That would be way more intense.
But like it.
Kind of.
Sing, stay by Riola.
Y'all call me scared, bro.
Okay.
For the pizza.
I want pizza.
Yeah, come on, girl.
You got it.
If you're sounding Amy Winehouse, I feel like your voice would really suit that.
It's a little like Ross, but it's not.
Yeah.
Every girl might feel loud, too.
You don't have what it takes, Bella.
You don't have what it takes.
They tried to make me go to rehab, and I said, No, Come on.
I didn't even get that reference.
Amy Whitehouse.
Right?
Is that Amy Winehouse?
Yeah, it is.
I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure it is.
Oh, my God.
Come on, Bella.
This is your opportunity.
Play me a song.
Listen to it.
You could get Discovery.
Yeah, easily.
She will do it.
We can't.
It's like copyright.
Oh, wouldn't he singing be copyrighted?
No, no.
But if you play the instrumental, that's.
Yeah.
It'll get into automated.
Are we all singing?
Come on, Bella.
Come on, Bella.
Bella.
Bella.
Okay.
Sing the national anthem.
Oh, say does that.
Okay, Adele, pick one ready.
No?
Okay.
Or say, say that's wait, what was that?
So five to the ring.
All right, here, the eight ball decides it.
If it fucking lands on yes, then you gotta fucking immediately.
No delaying.
I don't know.
All right, I'm not gonna cheat it either.
Wait, oh, it landed on the corner.
Keep going.
Oh my god, this ape is dog shit.
I got good luck.
Wait, wait.
Okay, confirm I'm not moving it.
It reads, so it shall be.
Okay, go ahead.
That's a yes.
Okay.
For you.
Thank you.
Amy Whitehouse.
For the pizza.
Thank you.
So awkward with no music.
Oh, there we go.
He left no time to regret.
Kept his lips wet with his same old safe pet.
Me and my head high and my tears dry.
Get on without my guy.
We only say goodbye with words.
I died a hundred times.
You go back to her and I go back to get some pizza, please.
It's good.
Bravo, problem.
Thank you.
That's really good.
Thank you, Nikki.
Thank you.
Oh, wow.
That was cool.
Good job, Bella.
So proud of you.
Okay, moving on to the next topic here.
Let's do this.
Oh, I have to wait until we have everybody back at the table.
Minimum Income Debate00:15:04
Okay, actually, no, we can just do this one.
What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
Two.
What did you write down here?
I said two to five mil.
Wait, hold on, Mary.
We're going to come on this angle here for a bit.
Oh, oh, oh, don't move it, Mary.
Do not move it.
Do not move it.
I think you're not right.
There we go.
Okay.
All right.
I did it.
Holy fuck.
That's okay.
There's so much titty we don't even know if it's in or out.
You can't even fucking tell.
You don't even have it, my bad.
Jesus Christ.
That was terrifying.
Holy shit.
You don't even have it.
All right.
What's your answer?
What's your answer?
I said two to five million.
Two to five million.
Yeah.
At what age do you want to get married?
At what age do you want to get married?
I'd say 30 to 32, 35.
Yeah.
And then do you want to have a career, like job or whatever?
I don't know what I want to do yet.
How much money do you think you'll be making, say, at 28?
Yearly, I would hope to be successful.
I would hope to make minimum of $800,000 yearly.
Doing what?
Don't really know yet.
I don't know what I want to do.
I mean, communication.
I would like, yeah, I'm a communication major.
I would like to do that.
I think it would be really cool to be like a news broadcaster, not going to lie.
Yeah.
That'd be good for you.
I don't know how much money that makes.
I don't know what I want to do.
Like Fox News and stuff, yeah?
They make a lot of money.
You can make that good money.
Well, if you're like Tucker Carlson.
I think it would be really cool.
Well, you make more than that if you're Tucker Carlson.
Yeah, but like a news anchor at like a local news station, I don't even think you're breaking six figures.
Unless maybe if you're in a major city, maybe they might make six figures, but 800,000, like, I don't think there's like you basically have to be in business or like yeah, I used to be a business major, but I didn't think I was gonna be like really able to like fall through that.
But there's more opportunities with communication.
Well, that's why I switched my major to communications because I feel like there's more opportunities open for more jobs.
I mean, if you're employed, nobody's rather incorporation.
A dream job for me, if I can make it, would be to be the manager of like really famous people.
Okay, managers can make money if you're not.
Like once Bella gets like she's up there.
Wait, so your whole strategy is for you to make $800,000 a year in the hopes that Bella's making multiple M's per year basically.
I'm saying if someone catch me being her manager.
So wait, Bella, she's going to be your manager?
Yeah.
I mean, it's obviously like super hypothetical.
Yeah, a little bit.
Have you guys even talked?
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, we'll talk about this.
I'm already in the start.
Are you her manager already?
Yeah, she reads my emails for me.
Yeah, I was starting her gay names and stuff.
She has a lot of random opportunity emails.
All right.
Well, two to five million, but one million, no.
I just feel like if you're at one million, that's not enough.
No.
What's wrong with you?
It's not much, because think about it.
Okay, especially living where we do.
Come on now.
You got to be making a lot of money.
And I'm talking about myself, too.
I got to be making a lot of money.
I got to get there, girl.
Wait, wait, wait.
Really quick here.
So I agree with you that obviously there's places in the country geographically where the cost of living is really high.
Yeah.
You can comfortably live anywhere in this country at $1 million.
Yeah, no.
In San Francisco, in Los Angeles, in Miami, in Santa Barbara.
One million is a lot per year.
Making a million per year, you can live anywhere and have a really...
Yeah, that's why I said realistically for me, like 800K would be what I want.
Well, no, that's what you're doing.
But for my husband, two to five mil?
I want kids.
That's expensive.
It doesn't cost $5 million for kids.
How much do your money have an opinion?
Or not opinion.
How much do your parents make?
I don't want to bring that up.
Are your parents like well off?
I'm not going to say.
Can you say what career?
No, I can't.
Are they in a business?
It's not like it's really high up.
It's not at all.
Did you grow up in a mansion?
No.
I grew up in an apartment.
Well, there's nice apartments, but okay.
What about you?
What was the question?
Sorry, I wasn't here.
What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
I honestly don't really mind.
I don't care.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm going to steal the answer of someone's answer from the first time I was here.
Which what I'm making or more.
Well, how much do you think?
That's good.
What do you think you'll make at, say, 30?
At 30?
Yeah.
Well, about to start some new job with somebody.
Where do you currently work?
Chipotle.
How much do they pay?
Is it minimum wage or it's 20?
20 an hour.
20 an hour.
We're going to work for our friend and be making a lot more.
So hopefully by 30, I will be making...
A couple mil?
No.
No, I wouldn't say that.
Maybe like 500K a year on top of like not including if my singing stuff goes well.
Doing what?
What are you going to do that makes 500K?
Life insurance agent.
Do they make 500 dummy amounts?
Yeah.
My friend is about to retire by 25.
He's 25.
Yeah, we're going to start working for him next month or something.
You're a boss.
Your friend who he does life insurance sales?
Not all right.
It's like, like not directly for.
It's not, it's like you're the middleman.
You're self-employed.
Yeah.
You're the person who got to convince.
Yeah.
You got to convince the people to go and take it.
Tails.
Yeah.
Sales.
The life insurance.
Yo, chat.
Anybody who's familiar with this industry, the life insurance industry.
It's remote sales.
It's promoted everywhere.
It's like coal and people.
Yeah.
Like there's so many different types of remote insurance.
Here, let me do this.
What's the job title that you'll have or whatever?
Insurance.
Life insurance salesman.
No, no, no, but what are you going to be selling?
Life insurance.
Life insurance.
Salesman.
It's like plans for when people pass away.
Earnings.
No, I know what life insurance is.
So life insurance sales agents in California earn an average annual salary of approximately 87,000 to 89,000 as of 2026.
Top earners, 90th percentile, often exceed 137,000 to 149,000 annually.
And you're going to make, what did you say?
400,000, 500,000?
By the time I'm 30, I mean, I probably won't be doing that.
This is encompassing people who are in their 40s, 50s, 60s.
Yeah, that's what I'm going to do now, but I'm saying, like, I'm, I'm not sure.
I mean, I don't have to.
I told you you're going to make $500,000.
I'm not saying from that.
That's also a shoe.
Okay, from what, though?
Because I asked you what?
I don't know.
Well, I'm doing hair.
That makes a lot of money, extensions and stuff like that.
Okay.
Also, the whole thinging spiel.
Also, that.
Also, hopefully, some other things.
Like, I'm not, I don't have it all laid out yet, but we're young.
How much do you do hair?
Yes.
What do you do?
Dreads, braids, and extensions.
For men or women?
Or both?
Or either.
Okay.
How much do you make currently with your side hustle?
I haven't really started actually making money from it.
The most I've gotten is like 100 bucks to do someone's hair.
But you're not hitting $500,000 with that's not now.
This is like 15 years.
You're not understanding.
But you're non-school, so you have all the free time to do the hair thing, right?
I am doing the hair thing, but I can't do it professionally until I couldn't go to cosmetology school.
And I can't do that yet.
Okay, so you're a hairstylist.
Yes.
Okay.
Hairstylist, annual Ryan.
I'm not talking about income, California.
I'm not saying that I'm going to make $500,000 a year from what I'm doing right now.
You ready?
$45,000 a year on the average for professional hairstylists who do it fully.
Okay, and then add that with.
You're a grinder.
You're going to when are you?
So, okay, so you're going to be working 16 hours a day?
I mean, if you do in Kyla Jenner hair, so yeah, probably.
Okay.
There's a Russian girl who's doing her manicure and she's like paying her.
I don't know.
Okay, so what about the 99% of other hairstylists who are not doing that?
She could be the one person.
Yeah, no, it's just.
I don't know if you heard me the past like 17 times I've said it.
I'm not saying I'm going to make $500,000 from that.
From what?
I'm saying, I don't know.
I'm 18.
I literally just, I'm an adult for the first time right now.
I just started.
I'm not even in school.
Yeah, that was it.
Okay.
Just fresh as a girl.
Bear with me now, bro.
I have hopes.
It's good to have that goes.
Thank you, guys.
It is.
I guess.
The longer you manifest it and put good energy into the world, the more I'll come back to you.
Manifest.
Manifest.
Yes, girl.
You know what I'm manifesting?
Pizza.
I'm working on it.
I'm working on it.
It's coming soon.
Okay.
And so, wait, so basically, you think, though, you're going to earn $500,000 a year.
You would want whoever you're with to make just as much as that or more.
In the perfect world, yeah.
Obviously, I'm not going to find it.
Well, there's my life and he makes a little less than me, like, whatever.
But, like, that's what I would hope for.
Okay.
What about you?
Average or more.
It doesn't really matter to me.
I make money, so I'm not.
Okay.
What about you?
As long as we can live comfortable, I don't care as much.
Wait, did you write?
I can't read this.
What did you write here?
Is it 140 or 40K?
Me?
Yeah.
I didn't write out.
Oh, that was my bad.
No, sorry.
That was you.
My bad, my bad.
You don't care as long as we're comfortable.
Also, I feel like it depends what he does.
If he's going out and working, even if he's not making as much, and then there's a guy that he just has from his parents or whatever, like that's less important to me than someone that's going and working.
What about you?
$100,000.
Okay.
What about you?
I don't have a minimum.
Okay.
What about you?
From 80 to 120.
100K.
All right.
So we got 2 to 5 million.
I hope for the best for my future.
No, no, but it's.
You got that.
But the question is, what is the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
doesn't say anything about you know ideal it doesn't say anything about that's different No, but that's the question.
What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?