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Perfect "10" WILL NOT Settle For LESS Than Jake Gyllenhaal?! SUPER FERAL PANEL?! | Dating Talk #240

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So please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, and education.
Go ahead.
My name is Taylor Moore.
I'm 25.
I'm a full-time jiu-jitsu athlete and YouTuber.
And I also graduated from UCLA with a degree in sociology and music industry.
And I'm from Vista, California.
I currently live in Vista, California.
I'm from Lancaster, California.
But you pretty much always lived in California.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
And you said music industry?
What is that?
It's basically like music, business, and marketing and stuff like that.
Got it.
Okay, cool.
And sociology, what is that?
What is soch?
What is that?
Like the study of people in the world and specialized topics.
My specialization there was like deviant sociology.
Deviant sociology.
Well, that's like what I was focusing on in my coursework.
What is that?
Like if somebody's doing something abnormal, like mental disorders, or if somebody like is up to something out of the ordinary, that's what I was doing.
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Would it encompass mental illnesses like borderline personality disorder, bipolar, or is that not considered deviant?
It's more so.
That's more a question for like a psychologist, sociologist are like studying like the overall trends of society.
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What about, are you, do you have deviant psychology?
No.
You're not deviant?
No.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Carly Rose.
Oh.
Wait, sorry.
I didn't mean to interrupt.
What belt are you in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu?
I'm a purple belt.
Purple Belt, okay.
So if anybody of you get out of the line, she's going to choke, she's going to choke you guys out.
They would have to sign a waiver before the chokeout.
Yeah.
I'm not going to jail.
You can always defend me, though.
Like self-defense, you know?
Huh?
Like if somebody's like trying to attack me or Felicity, like you can come to our defense.
Is that in the, is that in.
No, it wasn't in the release, but you can do it.
So this was your verbal release?
You can defend us.
You can, like, if Carly over here tries to put us in like a arm bar or some shit, you can get her.
Okay, cool.
Go ahead.
Okay, I'm Carly Rose.
I'm 26 years old.
I'm from Los Angeles.
And as far as what I do, I'm a model and an actress.
And occupation, yeah, model actress, sorry, education.
I didn't go to college, but I graduated high school three years early so I could start working.
And I just became an entrepreneur for the most part.
I worked hard most of the jobs I did and then became an entrepreneur, marketing business.
So I got a marketing.
You graduated in high school early?
Yeah, three years early.
Were you like emancipated early?
No, I wasn't emancipated early.
Yeah.
I just started to work early, as early as possible.
Yeah.
And yeah.
Do you have your degree?
I don't have a degree, but I have certificates for different things.
I'm becoming a notary.
I'm just waiting for the final packet in the mail.
Okay.
Are you currently in college or anything?
No, but I have a lot of different things that I do.
Like I said, modeling and acting.
So that's what keeps me busy.
You do content creation too?
Yes, I'm an influencer.
Okay.
Do you do adult content?
No.
No, have you ever done adult content?
Okay.
All right.
Cool.
What about you?
My name is Samantha.
I'm 29.
I'm from Tucson, Arizona.
I do OnlyFans.
And I graduated from NAU for psychology, a bachelor's in psychology.
Bachelor's of science or arts?
Arts.
Arts.
Okay.
And you said you're from Arizona?
29.
And you do OnlyFans, is that correct?
Also, any other kind of sex work, stripping, escorting, anything like that?
I was a stripper for a while.
For a while?
Okay.
Yeah, probably from.
I stopped like a year and a half ago, two years ago now.
Okay.
Got it.
What about you?
My name is Mari.
I'm 27.
I'm from Tucson.
I live in Phoenix right now.
I dance though.
So I'm a dancer and I didn't go to college.
No, I did graduate high school.
Didn't go to college.
Sure.
And you're from Arizona, you said?
Yes.
Okay.
Got it.
And you, for work, you do what?
I'm a dancer.
Dancer.
OnlyFans?
No, I used to for a little bit, but I took some time off.
I just need to get it back ongoing.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Lily Fiore.
I'm 35 years old and I do OnlyFans.
I own my limited company that does OnlyFans and I do content creation and YouTube.
And I didn't really finish university, but I studied business and marketing.
But because I was working and studying, it just wasn't possible for me to finish.
Where are you from?
Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
I am Italian, but I live in England.
How long have you been living in England?
I've been living in England for 13 years.
13 years.
Wow.
What part?
London?
I live near Manchester now.
Manchester.
What part of Italy are you from?
Modena.
City of Modena.
That's where they make balsamic.
Yes.
Because that's what they put on Trader Joe's vinegar.
Balsamic vinegar.
Modena.
Okay.
I don't think that's like the real one you have here.
Probably not.
You know what?
I think they import it.
They probably import it from Italy.
I will have to try to assume.
Probably.
And so what brings you to the U.S.?
Oh, well, you say I'm on vacation because if you say I'm on holiday, they don't understand.
So yeah, I'm on vacation visiting the U.S. for the first time.
Okay.
And I'm trying to think.
You said you didn't finish college or university.
Is that correct?
Okay.
All right.
Got it.
What about you?
My name is McKinley.
I'm 18 and I am a student and I major in communications.
I also play soccer and I'm an expo and I live in North County, San Francisco.
What's Expo?
It's like a food runner and a hostess.
Got it.
Okay.
In soccer, what position do you play?
Are you a striker?
I can play anything, but I don't know if you know by number, but I play seven, eight.
Okay.
Seven, eleven, nine, and ten.
I'm playing defense right now, which is like completely different.
All right.
Okay, cool.
And you play, are you in, you're in university now?
Yeah, I'm at MiraCosta, but it's a community college trying to transfer.
You play soccer for the college, though, right?
Yeah, I do.
Okay, cool.
Is that a division one?
Or no, it's different for the JCs.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure all JCs are D3.
It's their own division, I think.
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
Are you planning to transfer to a four-year?
Yeah, I don't really know what I want to do yet.
And so that's why I'm majoring in communications because it's super broad.
It's like business, except I'm not good at math.
Okay, cool.
What about you?
Hola, say Ruby.
I am 27 and I live here in Santa Barbara.
I do like Amazon, private labeling, e-commerce, listing management.
And That's me.
Okay, and where are you from?
Originally from Mohico.
Okay, when did you move to the U.S.?
When I was a child.
Okay, got it.
And you've always lived in Santa Barbara or other parts of California?
I've always been living in Santa Barbara County, so I haven't left Santa Barbara County.
Okay, got it.
And education, any schooling?
Yes, I go to the community college here at Santa Barbara City College, majoring in communications.
Okay.
You have any other degrees like associates degrees or anything like that?
I have like in accounting to like accounting and communication.
You have an associate's degree in accounting?
Yeah.
Okay, got it.
Have you kind of just been like working this whole time?
Yeah, I've just been working.
I think I stopped going to school and then just focused on work.
And then recently I went back to school.
I want to get my communications degree.
Okay.
All right.
Very cool.
Felicity, what about you?
My name is Felicity.
I just turned 19 on Friday.
How about you?
It's all downhill after nine.
I'm from Santa Barbara and I no longer have a job.
I just quit so I could be a full-time student in business.
Rock and roll.
And then my Caucasian.
Go ahead, Jim Bob.
Hello, I am Jim Bob.
Am I echoing or are you guys?
Sorry.
I can hear you.
Okay, my name's Jim Bob.
I'm a cartoonist, and I run a YouTube Made by Jim Bob, and my Instagram is MadeByJimbob.
I do commentary on various topics, including feminism, theology, some politics, and I try to make it humorous.
And I'm from Colorado, and I'm 44.
All right.
You look younger than 44.
You could pass for 37.
All right.
There you go.
So, okay.
You're from Colorado, sweet.
Do you have a degree from a university or anything like that?
A degree.
I have a metal smithing degree.
Metalsmithing?
Okay.
Yeah, I'm a jewelry making, goldsmith, platinum smith.
That's a trade school degree.
And the other degree I have is basically an associates in art, which is essentially toilet paper.
Checks out.
With the metalsmithing, do you make swords and shit or what do you do?
No, I make basically jewelry.
So high-end jewelry I've made.
Oh, you make jewelry?
Okay.
Metalsmithing.
Okay, interesting.
Oh, that would be a blacksmith, I guess.
Can you blacksmith?
Not blacksmith.
I could learn blacksmithing easily.
That's just larger scale metalsmithing.
So same principles, different metal.
Got it.
Okay, cool.
Before I have every go around once more, there's a couple people that bought some stuff from our merch store.
So we got OG Ryder bought a, I assume, a hoodie.
Thank you so much, man.
Appreciate it.
He says love from London.
OG, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
And then Kai Baca here sent in also a donation.
Thank you for the, I think you bought a t-shirt.
Kaiba, thank you so much for getting that t-shirt.
Really appreciate it.
And then quickly via Venmo and via the cash app.
Thomas sent in seven.
Thank you so much, Thomas and Elmer sent in about $3.
Thank you, Elmer.
Appreciate it, man.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right, guys.
So going around the table once more, what is your current relationship status?
If you're single, how long have you been single?
And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you?
Go ahead.
Can you repeat the question, please?
Yeah, so current relationship status.
If you're single, how long have you been single?
Longest relationship.
So I'm currently in a relationship.
Okay.
And my longest relationship was six years.
And I've been with my current partner for almost two years.
Okay.
Two years.
So long as six years.
When was that?
The six-year one?
That ended two and a half years ago.
Okay.
Who broke up with who?
I broke up with him.
Why?
I was.
It started when we were in high school, so we just kind of grew apart and grew up in different ways.
Was he better at jiu-jitsu than you?
No, he didn't do jiu-jitsu.
Oh, okay.
Have you ever gotten into a scuffle with a romantic partner?
No, never.
Okay, so you've never had to, like, you know, put somebody in some shit.
Your current boyfriend, does he do jiu-jitsu?
Yeah, he's also a professional jiu-jitsu athlete.
Is he a black belt?
No.
Okay.
Is purple, brown?
He competes at a high level.
Well, purple or brown?
Which one?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, he's a purple belt, but he competes against black belts.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
Got it.
Nogi, gi?
All no gi.
I don't like geese.
You don't like gi?
Okay, yeah.
Why is that?
I'm just curious why it seems like people have a stronger preference towards no gi.
Is it just it's different, right?
I feel like it has more real-world application.
And I also don't like the feeling of the gi against my skin.
And I don't like geese are like $100 a pop, and you need like 20 of them.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Makes sense.
Checks out.
Okay.
And you said your last relief, the six-year relationship ended two and a half years ago, but you've currently been in your current relationship for two years.
So what was the period of time between the breakup of your six-year relationship and meeting your current boyfriend?
I met him like six months after I broke up with my ex, and then we started dating very quickly after we met.
Okay.
So you didn't like know him when you were dating?
No.
Okay.
Got it.
Pretty not a bad rebound, though.
Six months?
It was a little bit more than that, I guess.
It was like probably closer to three years that I broke with my ex.
Got it.
And how did you guys meet?
I met my now boyfriend at a jiu-jitsu tournament.
All right.
Nice.
There you go.
There you go.
What about you?
So I'm single.
Okay.
And I've been single not that long.
I actually just broke up with my boyfriend, I guess, at the time.
What was yesterday?
Yesterday?
Was yesterday the fashion show?
No, Friday.
Wait, you broke up with your boyfriend?
On Friday night.
Okay.
Yeah.
What happened?
Oh, a lot of things.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it's just, it was very interesting.
We just weren't compatible.
Who broke up with who?
I broke up with him, but he was spreading rumors that he broke up with me first.
Like, he was saying, he told other girls he broke up with me, and he didn't tell me that, but he was telling other people that.
So I made it official.
Was telling people that before you guys broke up?
Correct.
Oh, yeah.
How long were you guys together?
Not long.
It was very, very short.
Yeah, we didn't even, I would say like...
A couple months.
No.
No, like weeks, like maybe a week, a week or two is a typical LA relationship.
Okay.
Oh, and so it's like...
It's not even real.
It doesn't even happen.
Yeah, I haven't been in almost a couple weeks.
Yeah.
So, okay.
Longest relationship.
Longest relationship was five fully, five years fully, and then seven off and on with the same person.
So five years altogether.
It was like my first real boyfriend.
Who broke up with who there?
So since it was off and on, it was like so, I don't know, the first time we just, it was almost amicable.
Like we just fell apart in different ways, honestly, and then kept trying to redo it.
Okay.
And you said it was on again, off again?
How many times was it on and off?
More times than I can remember, honestly, because well, I guess less than 10, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
So, you're currently single.
Are there any guys in the picture?
Well, I mean, I feel like there's opportunities, you know, like I'm not actively seeing anybody, but you know.
Do you have a roster?
I mean, I would have called Radcall a line more than a roster.
Okay.
That's funny.
All right.
Well, you said you broke up with your boyfriend Friday.
Yeah.
Have you been on a dates?
No.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I'll just say three days, I guess.
You've been single.
I've been working.
What about you?
I am single.
I would say I'm single.
Other people might say they're in a relationship with me, but I say I'm single.
Okay.
And my longest relationship, probably like three years on and off.
All right.
And then how long have you been single for?
Like two years.
Two years.
How many guys are currently in the picture?
Two.
Two guys?
How long have you been seeing these two guys?
One for like seven months and the other for like three months or so.
But the seven-month one is really toxic.
Usually, really toxic, so it's on and off.
Okay.
Do they know about each other?
No.
Were they watching the live?
No.
No.
They don't even know what this is.
Yeah.
Okay.
And what's the.
So I wouldn't.
Two.
I don't know if that would be a roster, but have you ever had a roster?
Yeah.
I mean, there's definitely like, I don't know how to explain this.
You're saying there's.
So you have the seven-month guy and the three-month guy, but then you have some more.
You got side-hoes.
Yeah, for sure.
The show.
The show.
Bo show.
How many side hose do you have currently?
Like two.
But that only like I just like to talk to them.
I don't really actively like hook up with all of them.
If that's what you're gonna ask next, I feel like you're getting there.
So you said you have two side hoes?
Yeah.
Okay, two.
So you're kind of talking to four people at the same time.
Kind of.
What's the biggest the roster has ever been?
Like five or six, six, I guess.
But that's just when you're just like dating, you know, like you're just going on dates and some of them last for like a couple weeks.
You talk to them, some last for like a couple months, but nothing like too serious, I guess.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
I'm single.
I've been single for five years.
My longest relationship is two years on and off.
It wasn't like great, but you know, whatever.
History, I guess, you know, works itself out sometimes.
So you've been single for five years?
Yeah.
Is there a guy currently in the picture?
Yeah.
Well, not like, yeah, but like, yeah.
Okay.
So, yeah, there's a guy in the picture?
Or can you clarify?
Yeah.
Like, yeah, there's someone around.
Right.
Are you sleeping with him?
Yeah.
Okay.
How long have you been dating him?
Oh, we're not dating.
Okay.
Well, how long have you spent time with him, I guess?
Like, have you known him?
For like years.
Years.
Yeah.
And have you been hooking up for years?
Yeah, him and like, I don't know, just sometimes like it's cool.
Not it's cool, but I feel like as you get older, like you can come to mutual agreements with people to have open relationships, I guess.
I don't know.
Okay, so you guys have like an open arrangement basically?
Um yeah, because he kind of does whatever I do, whatever, you know what I mean?
Like it's cool when you're at a mutual understanding with people.
Sure.
Uh, do you you don't currently have a roster though?
Yeah, there's people there too.
Oh, okay.
That you're like, he's like, oh, yeah.
So there's some that you're just talking to, maybe.
Oh, they're cool.
No, like they like vacation, you know what I mean?
Like if I need help with stuff, they're for me like mentally, emotionally.
You know, like sometimes if one person isn't understanding you, someone else might.
That's why when people ask like, oh, do you have a type?
I don't really have a type because it's like when it comes down to it, I feel like you're closing yourself off if you have a type.
You know what I mean?
You're not, you could say, this is my type, this is who I'm sticking with, this one I'm going to be, you know, whatever.
And then someone else completely is not really your type and you're vibing with them more.
Okay.
And so how's the roster looking right now?
How many people are in the picture in some way?
I don't know.
Looks like, you know, like.
I don't know.
Tell me.
That's what I'm trying to compare it to.
Like five.
You don't need to give me the exact number.
Five, six.
Oh, yeah.
No way.
No, they're cool.
It's cool.
Maybe like four, three, sometimes three and five, you know, between three and five, it's cool.
Somewhere between three and five.
And what's the biggest the roster has ever been?
Oh, only like five, six.
You max out at six.
Yeah, just because it's got a little purple.
You're like, I know.
I'm like, I don't know.
Just because it's kind of cool.
Sometimes if you think of it, like what one person won't do, another person will.
What do you mean?
If you don't want to hang out and go to dinner today or you don't want to go to this movie with me, you don't want to do this today.
Someone else will want to do it with me.
Do you anybody else here have a roster?
Any other roster?
You're going to have to clarify what a roster is for me.
Multiple guys.
You're dating multiple guys, basically.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, question for you.
Do you have like one guy who's really good in bad?
One guy who's got money?
One guy who's funny and like you enjoy spending time with him?
Like is that when you say you have they I guess they fill different needs?
Is that kind of what you're talking about?
No, because when you kind of hold yourself different you expect the same from all the same people but in different types of ways if that makes sense.
Like I'm not gonna say oh, this person, he fucks me good, but he does nothing nothing nothing, because I feel like that don't really do anything for anyone, you know.
And then it's the same thing.
Oh, he has money but he doesn't pick up the phone.
He doesn't.
This, he doesn't that, he doesn't.
You know what I mean?
You're just looking at for different places.
So if you're looking for someone who has multiple in them, sometimes it's kind of like I just like you and I just like you, and sometimes we hang out better doing different things.
I guess got it.
That's why the multiples got to stick around.
You know, go in the car lead.
Have you ever had a roster?
Like I said, I wouldn't call it a roster, I'd call it more of like a line.
A lot of people who yeah, Me and my best friend love this line.
Thank you next.
Thank you next.
Do you ever have to ever ask for it?
No.
All right.
What about you?
Oh, my goodness.
You've been single?
Okay.
For about two years.
My longest relationship was about six and a half years.
Six years.
And I don't have a roster.
Roster.
And yeah.
In your six and a half year relationship, who broke up with who?
It was kind of like a mutual breakup because we kind of stayed friends.
So yeah, we are still friends to this day, so that's good.
You stayed friends with him?
Okay, and you've been single for three years?
Two.
Almost two, yeah.
Two years.
Is there any guy in the picture currently?
No guys in the pictures.
No guys in the picture.
So you've been celibate for two years?
Yes.
Well, my job helps.
Oh, you do have a fan porn.
Okay, got it.
Got it.
Okay.
I mean, just solo, but.
Sure.
Yeah.
Oh, well.
Have you had intercourse with a man in the past two years?
Three years?
I don't think I can do that.
I'm just like, I'm sure she has.
I don't know.
Some people be celibate for long extensions.
She's celibate.
I'm selling it, you know?
She's like solo.
That was so good.
Solo.
I know, that's right.
Like with my ex-boyfriend, yes, for a video, just because I still trust him.
Oh, you do content with him.
Oh, so I was not, but yeah.
Got it.
Okay.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm single.
I've actually never been in a relationship, but I was kind of involved with someone for like a year.
But we're still friends.
So it's like we ended things back, I want to say like June of last year.
June of last year.
But he's like, he was one of my really good friend's brother.
And they actually came with me up here.
Oh, just to yeah, it was, yeah, so my good friend lives with me, and then it's his best friends with the older brother.
Wait, is your friend girl or guy?
It's a guy.
Oh, okay.
Got it.
Yeah.
And have you guys had a thing?
Who?
Your friend.
The one you live with.
Oh, the one that I lived with?
No, you said you came up with a friend.
Yeah, I came up with a friend.
I was involved with one of them for like a year, but we're still really good friends.
But not, wait, so you came up with two guys?
Three.
Oh, you're here with three guys?
Yep.
And you had a thing with one of them?
Yeah.
And you had another thing with another one of them?
No.
Oh, just one of them.
and like my family no that's what you said the one like no i didn't have a thing with the one that lived with me right Right.
Because brother, right?
I see.
And so the one you had a thing with, that's the one that lasted about a year?
Yeah, about a year.
Okay.
But you wouldn't consider it a relationship?
Yeah, no.
I mean, I guess you consider it like, I guess we're dating, but we're in high school and like we never went on dates.
He never asked me to be his girlfriend.
We didn't even go to prom together, so I would not consider him.
What was the, I guess, the nature of your guys' relationship?
What do you mean?
What would you guys do?
Well, we just hang out a lot.
He was like, I don't know, like I would kiss him, but we never slept together or anything.
Oh, okay.
So, but you guys would, like, how frequently, I guess, would you guys hang out?
Well, he's actually my neighbor, so we'd hang out like all the time.
Oh, all the time.
Yeah, all the time.
So you guys kissed, and that's it.
That's it.
And did he try more?
Or like, I mean, he was open to it, but like, I just.
You weren't feeling it.
Yeah.
No, it wasn't that I wasn't feeling it.
It just, I just don't want to lose my virginity yet.
Okay.
You're a virgin.
Yes, I am.
Oh, you're currently?
Yeah, I am.
Oh, okay.
There you go.
Yeah, no, a lot of people actually, whenever I tell people that, like, just whoever I'm friends with, they actually don't blame me because I'm friends with like a lot of boys.
So, like, I don't know.
I guess because I'm friends with a lot of guys, they think because I'm hanging out with guys, I'm sleeping with them.
But that's how I grew up too.
Yeah, exactly.
It's okay.
People can think about it.
And have you, there was that one guy who you were sort of seeing, but not really, or whatever.
Yeah.
Have you been, I guess, romantic with anybody else?
Yeah, I guess there was one other guy.
So I've only ever kissed two guys.
And the first guy, I went to prom with him.
And then it was like my sophomore prom.
And like at the prom after party, he like tried to kiss me and I didn't really want to kiss him.
And then after he kissed me, he like hit me with his teeth.
And I was so embarrassed.
I was like, this is terrible.
Like, I'm never kissing you again.
And then I'm walking away and he calls me a different name.
And I come to find out later that that was actually his girlfriend.
And she knew about me and they're still together.
Oh, no.
Nice.
Yeah.
God love it.
That's awesome.
It was terrible.
Are you currently, is there any guys in the picture currently?
No.
I mean, I'm single, so like I'll flirt with guys sometimes, but not really.
Gotcha.
And are you waiting until marriage?
Waiting for the right one?
I don't know.
Yeah, no.
I feel like I've waited.
I mean, I guess I haven't waited that long because I'm only 18.
But I just think that it's like as I get older, I think I'll just want to hang on to it more.
That's good.
But do you like, is it, are you religious, I guess, or no?
Not really.
I mean, my parents were both very religious, and I'm trying to come back around to like religion.
But that's not why.
They're Christian?
Yeah, they're Christian.
That's not why, though.
No, that's not why.
Maybe waiting for the right guy.
Yeah.
And I've just found like a lot of guys that I'll end up liking and then they'll know I'm like a virgin.
They'll like want to sleep with me.
And so it's like, okay.
And then I'll tell them like I don't want to do that.
And then all of a sudden they're gone.
And then they weren't worth it in the first place.
Right, right.
What do you tell them?
Like, are you, um, are you saying I'm waiting for love?
I'm waiting for, is there something specific you're waiting for?
No.
I just don't want to just sleep with someone I barely know.
Okay.
Or I like see myself long term with.
You want the time to be right.
Yeah, I guess.
Are you waiting for love?
No, I'm not waiting for anything specifically, but people ask me.
I just say, I don't know.
I'm just not.
Okay.
That's good.
All right, cool.
And question, you said you have a bunch of male friends.
Do you have female friends?
Yeah, I do.
I just don't have as many.
I had a brother growing up and I was really close with my brother's friends.
And so I've just, over time, I hung out with them a lot in high school.
Of your female friends, have they lost their virginity?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you're kind of the lone wolf on that.
Okay.
Do you find just curious that your female friends have ever like tried to do like peer pressure, not like insane pressure, but have they ever pressured you or made fun of you for no?
Most of my female friends, they're like, a lot of my friends are older than me, so they're always just like, yeah, stay like that.
Like, you're just a baby.
Like, a lot of them are actually really happy for me.
And like, they're like, it's a good thing.
Like, a lot of them, like, wish that they didn't lose it as early as they did.
And so.
I'm feeling that right now.
You're feeling that?
Yeah, well, that's like no, I feel that.
Who else feels that?
Who else feels that on the panel tonight?
Who feels what?
That they should have waited.
Yeah, I would have loved to wait longer.
Raise your hands.
Show of hands.
God's all kids.
No, we're all not happy for her.
Cool.
All right.
And what about you, Ruby?
I'm single.
I've been single for Year and a half.
Longest relationship was three years.
It was mutual.
He just moved to another state.
Didn't believe in marriage.
That's okay.
Okay.
Oh, wait.
He didn't believe in marriage or you didn't believe in marriage?
He didn't believe in marriage.
Okay, so you wanted to get married and he didn't.
Yeah, and I kind of knew that starting the relationship.
I just, I guess I just didn't expect for it to last as long as it did.
I just kind of entered that relationship without expectations.
And before I knew it, I mean, he asked me to move with him out of state, and I was open to it, but I just wasn't open to leaving my family and my friends for something that's uncertain.
And so, did he tell you going in, like, hey, I don't want to get married?
Like, it's not something you say, you know, it's, I guess it's something that I guess.
Well, this was a conversation that we had as our relationship progressed.
The topic did come up.
Okay.
Got it.
I have a question on that.
What's the purpose of forming a relationship with the man if the future is not ultimately to be married and to have children?
What else would it be?
No, that's a great question.
I think I was just not thinking.
I really wasn't thinking about the future.
Like I said, when I entered that relationship, I didn't have any expectations.
You know, I was ignorant.
You know, I was younger.
I didn't know.
I guess I just, at that age, when I'm like, I think I was like 22, I wasn't thinking about marriage.
I had never had a relationship that, you know, when you're in high school and you're dating, you never think like, oh, this is the person.
Well, at least I didn't.
I didn't.
You know, I just thought, oh, he's my boyfriend.
My brain just didn't see past that.
Was he your only relationship?
No, no, he was.
I want to say he was my third or fourth.
Yeah.
So it's like marriage like a deal breaker for you if they don't want now.
It is.
Now that I'm like aware of it, like I said, I just wasn't paying attention.
I don't know.
To me, it was just like, oh, I have a boyfriend and that's it.
That's it.
You know, I didn't think I was thinking super long.
I wasn't thinking long-term at all.
It's just, I started thinking long-term as our relationship started getting.
You're young.
You're like 22.
I don't think a lot of 20 years.
Unless you're grown up with that, you are really aware of that being a thing.
So as you get older, then you kind of realize what you want.
Right.
Yeah.
So that's where my mindset was at that time.
Okay.
Felicity, what about you?
I'm in a relationship.
It's my longest relationship.
Two years.
All right.
Jim Bob, what about you?
Coming up on 10 years with my wife, and we have children.
So, yeah.
Rock and roll.
That's the thing to do.
Rock and roll.
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Oh, Taylor, you know what?
I'll ask you a question about dating and Brazilians.
Jiu-Jitsu.
So Tom Brady was dating Giselle or Bunchin or something.
I don't know.
What is it?
She's a supermodel?
Yeah.
And she started getting like MMA or Jiu-Jitsu classes with like, I think, private instruction with this jiu-jitsu guy.
And a lot of people believe that the downfall of the relationship, I mean, perhaps, I assume there were other factors.
She was rolling around getting choked out by this, you know, authoritative jujitsu teacher.
They're touching each other.
They're, you know, all that stuff.
Have you ever, have you personally seen a girl go in to jujitsu and she's got some like computer engineer boyfriend and then she leaves with like a fucking black belt or some shit, you know?
Have you seen that shit?
It definitely happens.
It happens.
But I feel like if a woman is going to be loyal to you, she's going to be loyal no matter what.
I feel like it's just a matter of like if your person is already tempted by other things and there's already flaws in your relationship, then of course they're going to stray.
But I feel like if you guys already have a strong relationship, then your girl doing Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu isn't like the problem.
Here are girls.
Don't do any sport.
Like, yeah, if you think that if you think of jiu-jitsu as like sexual or anything like that, then it's, it seems like if you view it that way in the first place, then it's like, well, why do men do it with men? Is also the question.
So it kind of begs that question.
But the sport itself isn't the problem.
It's the individuals.
So there's a sentiment online that's like, if you're dating a girl, you can't let her do jiu-jitsu.
You can't let her do it because she's going to want to fuck the fucking instructor or some other person.
Why wouldn't she just be like in a relationship with them if that's what she wanted to do?
What do you mean?
Like, okay, so if you're worried about her wanting to like fuck her instructor, wouldn't she just do that?
Why would she be with you?
Well, the temptation is there.
She has the same thing.
Well, like, I don't know.
I feel like cheaters are going to cheat regardless.
And so it's like.
Yeah, I mean, sort of, but I think there's a component of if you put two people in a situation, you can like that, that sort of thing can.
You mean like bonding?
It can escalate.
It could be with any sport.
It could be with any sport, like any instructor, any type of anything, because it's like you're teaching someone.
There are specific activities and venues that if you're involved in, I think it can lead to infidelity.
For example, I would say somebody, like if you're dating a woman who works in nightlife, I think that there's a higher probability.
I'm not saying it's a guarantee.
I think there's a higher probability for infidelity.
There's alcohol involved.
There's, you know, that whole environment.
There's guys who are going to be hitting on her.
I think in that environment, infidelity, there's a higher probability.
No, I mean, not necessarily as long as that person has strict boundaries.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I'm speaking, I'm not saying every single woman who's who works in nightlife is going to cheat.
I'm saying there's a higher probability.
But I feel like with law enforcement, there's a higher probability of people cheating on their spouse.
They say sales nurses do it to like the highlights.
Especially in law enforcement.
Yeah, there's a lot of them.
They say salesmen have a high probability of airplane.
Rappers.
Actors.
The steward.
Actors are big too, but I think to Brian's point, the question is, is there a line you draw for inappropriate behavior and appropriate behaviors insofar as relationships between men and women when you are in a relationship?
Is, but it's just kind of what you're willing to put up with because different women and different men are willing to put up with.
Yeah, it's all down to preference and boundaries.
What you're gonna do with someone else isn't.
I don't think a sport should be yeah, I don't think it's sports a deal rolling around with the man.
I mean that's the only thing.
Okay, well then, roll around with the men rolling.
No, but let's say she, she wasn't doing it, but she wants to get into it.
Is it fair for the man to say I don't want you to do that?
I mean, maybe you could be like could you have a kid?
Or like, if you're not worried, you could just like become a trainer, learn it.
I mean, most jiu-jitsu places it's not segregated like that.
There's not segregated classes.
Be nice if there's usually a women's class at most jiu-jitsu gyms, but I, but in general, but generally speaking, like I mean sure, but like the majority of the classes are mixed, I would assume they'd be segregated just because no, there's such a difference in strength there.
And maybe, like they'll be your partner, oh yeah, like a sparring partner.
I've seen that.
Well, how about this?
Do you guys know acro yoga?
No, have you guys seen that show?
Yeah, do you do acro yoga?
Oh, my god, this guy's gonna steal your girl bro.
Oh, my goodness Quentin, if I had a girlfriend, there's no way.
No way, I'm letting my girl do across, can we?
Um Quentin, can you're in the air doing yoga?
Right, Google it, because I don't know if everybody who's watching social activity no, so it's like a huge language.
Oh, is it the guy that we can throw them in the air?
And yeah, I know what you're talking about.
I'm sorry bro, if you're in a relationship I know plenty of relationships like basically foreplay well, I mean, there's.
It just depends on what the boundaries of your relationship are.
But um, I would never.
Yeah, just do Windows Shows in Windows tab.
Is it F11?
I can understand the yoga, but this guy well, this guy's not really.
I mean, I've seen some studs.
Yeah, go sure, I'm not scared of this guy, but go ahead, just so they can.
If I was a man, I wouldn't mind happy in my relationship.
So this is you tonight, honey.
This is we're talking about, like the buff ones that are all hot yeah, I think I'm still not letting, I'm still not letting my girl do it, but I've seen some crazy ones where, like more intermingled right yeah, I think it's fair as a guy in a relationship, I think it's fair as a guy in a relationship to be like nah, you can't do that, I'm not letting you go do acro yoga with a dude.
Okay well, vice versa right, if you walked in on that, if you walked in on that, you know that would be a headline for me.
You know I'd be in the headlines if I walked in on that.
Yeah, no for sure, you'd murder Jim Bob, you'd murder somebody.
Would you murder your wife?
Wait wouldn't, I know, but I would be in the headlines.
I won't say specifically, but if you walked in a room and and your wife is doing the you know, flying in the sky with a dude, I mean it's intimate.
This is what this is what it is.
It's intimacy.
It's not even like sexual, like kind of thing, like cheating.
You think of cheating.
It's intimate if you make it possibly.
Say that it's not intimate right, I mean, if you have to make it that way, it's like people go on dancing with the stars.
Dancing is intimate, but there there's a lot of people on dancing with the stars that are married and it's all.
You're just your spouse has to be okay with it.
I'm not sure I watched that when I was a kid, but type of thing and you're really married.
It's all up to the people you're in relationship with.
I also have to just sorry, go ahead.
No, I interrupt you.
I'm sorry, it's okay.
Yeah, I just private chat, it's okay, go ahead, go ahead.
Just like to your sentiment that you were saying that if you, if a man, is in a relationship and he has an objection with his partner doing jiu-jitsu, I don't necessarily believe that that has.
I think that if you're a man who has an objection with your partner doing jiu-jitsu, then maybe you should just go do jiu-jitsu with her.
Like, you can just be a part of the sport in that.
I don't think that you should necessarily dictate her behavior.
I think that you can dictate your behavior around it.
Like, if she really wants to do jiu-jitsu and learn self-defense, then I could understand that as a man, you might want to just go with her.
But I don't think that it's like.
But I think that as you get into the community, you'll realize how non-sexual the sport is in the first place.
I think it's only sexual if you're not.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Just to be clear, I'm not like downplaying the martial arts component of jujitsu.
It's a legitimate martial arts practice.
It's extremely effective.
But there's a component of, I'm not, by doing this, I don't think we're sexualizing it.
It's just, look at what happened to Tom Brady.
Tom Brady, good-looking, rich, best NFL quarterback ever, status, and he can't hold on to his chick.
Do you know if he's a great person?
Yeah, he's probably cool.
He's probably cool.
Do you know how we have a relationship with Tom Brady?
It's Tom Brady like people love the problem.
Guys, guys, one at a time, please.
But if Tom Brady can't hold on to like literally one of the, he's like a.0001% top-tier guy.
If he can't hold on to his chick and she did jujitsu, I'm banning my girl from doing jiu-jitsu.
But that's all Tom Brady don't.
Because Tom Brady's not into it.
He's like, you know what?
We're not doing jujitsu no more.
It's not the thing.
You're like, my shorty's not going to jujitsu.
Said something about it's not being not sexual, but I think you're speaking from a female perspective.
If anything, what if like she could protect you?
I'm not saying, like, I'm not doubting you.
I don't know if it would be with a man required of my protection.
Right.
Are you guys saying that a man wrestling with a woman, in this case, jiu-jitsu, they're probably fit, probably in good shape, that the man won't examine the woman, if you will, if they're that close, if they're rolling around with their bodies and stuff?
You think it's not sexual from the female perspective, but it's kind of naive to think a man having his impulses, having a woman right in front of him to wrestle with on the ground in all sorts of positions, you know, isn't going to have some thoughts about that.
That's, I think, what Brian and I are saying.
Like, we would know what the man is thinking in that environment, and that's why we wouldn't want to put our woman in that environment.
Right, to an extent.
So that, you know, everybody has intrusive thoughts.
So sometimes you can have them and make them go away.
I will agree with that.
I think that men and women are wired differently.
And while we may not see it as wrong from our perspective, we don't know exactly how the male mind works.
But one thing we do know for sure is that they're very physical.
So it might not trigger something for us, but it might trigger something for them.
Very look-driven.
Yeah.
Terwan.
Like, based on that video, is jiu-jitsu that intimate?
Because, I mean, their faces were like.
Jiu-Jitsu is a lot worse.
Oh, no, that was acro-yosia.
Yeah, they're right.
Jiu-Jitsu.
Is jiu-jitsu like you, like, touch each other like that?
Or belly to belly.
Yeah.
I mean, I have no idea.
Legs wrapped around each other, like crotch inches away from somebody's face.
It's like a triangle.
At times, at times, yeah.
Or for the triangle.
But you're also doing that to people of your same gender, and men are doing it to men, and women are doing it to women, and like vice versa.
Like it all goes.
I understand that people are saying that men are wired differently, but you can't really, you can't maintain those thoughts while somebody's trying to choke you and break your arms.
That's just so I believe that if somebody was having those intrusive thoughts, they would very quickly be interrupted by the actual sport itself.
Because if either of you guys are actually doing the sport at all, that's going to very quickly be interrupted by like a submission.
Like, I trust my partner completely to roll with women, and I don't have a problem with that.
That's good.
Got he's also, he also does jiu-jitsu, and I don't mind him rolling with women.
Yeah, I will say that trust is a lot of people who are in the world.
As long as you have a relationship, like it's a must.
If there's no trust, is there a relationship, really?
I agree.
I trust my partner completely, and I would never expect that type of behavior from him.
So, and I would hope he would never expect that from me.
Right.
I had no idea was that.
Which one of you would have a negative reaction if you were in jujitsu and then your husband or your boyfriend said, no, I don't want you doing that?
I think I would just have a negative reaction just because, I don't know, he's telling me, I guess if it was my husband, it'd be different, but if he's my boyfriend, if I could make money some kind of way doing it, or I don't know.
I personally wouldn't even want to grapple with a guy because it doesn't make any sense to me.
So I wouldn't do it in the first place.
I mean, the thing is, if you're in a, if you're going to jiu-jitsu class regularly, like, you're probably going to be practicing or rolling with guys.
I think if it's different if it's like an instructor, but I don't, I feel like if they're teaching, it's going to be another student, probably.
Yeah, then I wouldn't prefer to do that in general just because of my own preferences, just as I wouldn't want my boyfriend doing it, honestly, with a woman either.
Yeah, and I'll say if a guy's doing jiu-jitsu and he's taking it seriously to want to improve, I think he would want to practice with someone in that same level.
It wouldn't make sense for him.
Well, it's like weight.
It's weight class, but I mean.
I mean, yeah, but like, exactly, it's weight class.
So he would find, I would assume, the logical thing to do is to find someone in the weight class in that same gender.
I agree.
You know, I think it's very easy to do.
It doesn't really give you an excuse to like, oh, I'm practicing jitsu.
So that's why I have a female partner.
You know, because you can easily select a male partner.
I agree.
Right?
That's an option.
Yeah.
That's an option, conversely.
Like, if you're a woman in jiu-jitsu, like in the example of like my boyfriend, say, if he's very skilled and I trust him completely, and I'll even recommend that like women roll with him because I know he's safe and I know he's not going to like do anything weird or think about them in that way.
And I know he can show them new moves and stuff like that.
So if like I just rolled with that woman and they're just like, oh, who else is safe?
And there's not a partner available to them.
I'm just like, oh, yeah, grab my boyfriend.
So I think if you're talking to a girl and you meet her and she's already involved in jiu-jitsu, I think it's going to be a harder sell to say, stop.
But if you've already been, you've been dating her for six months, a year, whatever, and then she's like, I want to start, I think you have far more leverage in that situation to be like, don't like it.
Don't do it.
It's okay to speak about it.
This idea, but I'm curious, who here, kind of piggybacking off of Jim Bob's point, who here, because I know some of you don't currently do jiu-jitsu, but if you had a boyfriend and he said you're considering it and he said no, would you have an issue with that?
I think you raised your hand.
I would probably have an issue with that.
Yeah, an issue with that?
Okay.
And so what, would that be a breakup for you?
I mean, I wouldn't break up with someone over that.
I mean, I would just do the jiu-jitsu if I wanted to do it.
And it's like, if it's a problem to you that much, like, I guess it's a problem to you.
Sure.
So I think the guy's position would essentially be, well, you can go do it, but we're not dating anymore.
It was nice to know you.
Yeah, me doing like jiu-jitsu, and obviously my like going into it, I wouldn't be seeing it as like a sexual thing.
And like, if it was a problem for him, if like the relationship was only, if he had to break up with me because I'm doing jiu-jitsu, then I wouldn't, I don't know, that's on him.
Is there anything a guy can tell you not to do that you would not do?
I mean, like when I was involved with that one guy I was talking about, he didn't love that I like went out a lot, but I still went out.
I just want to go out as frequently.
Like, I'm, I don't know, I'm still gonna live my life regardless.
It's all about a preference game.
But so, question though: it seems like, at least with that guy, wasn't super serious.
You say you never had a boyfriend, so I mean, you didn't have the title.
When you get the title, though, one of if let's say this is the perfect guy, by the way, perfect guy, but he has conditions.
One of these conditions is don't want you to go out anymore.
Do you accept the condition or is the relationship over?
It'd probably be over because if he didn't want me to go out, he wouldn't be the perfect guy for me.
Could you compromise and go out together?
Yeah, I mean, I could totally compromise, but if you're gonna, it's never gonna be the perfect guy if he's like, you cannot go out.
Yeah, yeah, so I'm clear.
Yeah, I'll explain it differently.
So, when I say perfect guy, it's perfect, but this.
So, it's like perfect, but he doesn't like, okay, so what is your sense of what perfect means?
He's like insanely attractive, he could have all the characteristics that you prefer or have a strong interest in.
He could be rich, he could be all the things.
So, perfect guy.
Like, question for you: Do you think you'll end up with a perfect guy?
Um, I don't know.
I don't think everyone's like perfect.
Exactly.
So, I think it just perfection is extremely rare, right?
Uh, most people are gonna end up, like, for example, an average person is gonna end up with an average person, right?
And it might, you might have good fit with each other, but there are gonna be some things that are less than ideal, less than perfect about a person.
But people make these sort of trade-offs in relationships where it's like, well, you know, they've got like a Pokemon card collection or like other, you know, maybe they mildly annoy me in this one way, but I still love them and they're great, whatever.
Um, people are rarely like 100% perfect, right?
But so, just to be clear, you're not willing to sacrifice going out for the perfect guy?
Well, it depends how old I am, and also it, I guess it's okay.
Well, I don't know, it has to do with a trust thing, too, because I don't drink or smoke, and obviously, I'm not intimate with a ton of people, and so what would realistically be the problem?
Like, I'm just going out having fun with my friends.
I'm normally the driver a lot, so it's like what are you saying?
Sorry, you should be allowed to go out with your friends.
I mean, that's fine.
If you say go out with your friends, though, do you mean what?
Because go out with your friends could mean you guys go get brunch or you go to the club and you guys are drinking, and there's a bunch of people.
I personally don't drink either, so yeah, if you did drink, but if you did drink, I used to drink and I used to, you know, party with my ex-boyfriend, and I don't know.
I let him go out and do whatever he wanted to do, really.
Like, I didn't, I trusted that he wouldn't cheat on me.
And I probably wouldn't go to the club.
The question Brian is pointing to for chair is that is there a threshold at which the man you're with, even if they're not your husband yet, you'll actually honor the obligation to the relationship over your preferences to do whatever, right?
Because there's this sort of rebellious, uh, feminist spirit that you're sort of uh showing here is that ultimately in the end, it's whatever you want in the end.
And I'm wondering, we're asking at what point stop for yourself at what point?
Like, when is it?
When is it?
Because you said I'm young.
It depends on who I am.
So, what, but the thing is, what are you, 25?
Me?
I'm 18.
Yeah.
Oh, you're 18?
Okay.
Yeah.
You are young.
So in the instance where you meet a man and like Brian said, he's perfect and the only imperfection you find is that he kind of, he wants to settle down.
He sees you as the mother of his children.
He sees you as his wife, his long-term thing.
And you see this for him as well.
But the only thing is you just want to do a little eat-prey love on the weekends and potentially be pursued by other young men.
We're asking you.
No, if I'm in a relationship, I don't want to be pursued by other people.
Well, I'm saying that you will be.
Okay.
You'll be putting yourself in the situation.
We're asking you, at what point do you abandon your preferences and your wants to honor and follow the obligations of the relationship?
I think compromise is key.
I don't think it should be one way or the other.
I think there should be a medium.
What you're saying.
But what is it for you, though?
That's what Brian is.
Well, like I said, I went out less.
I would go out with him.
Like when I was involved with someone, I didn't go out as much.
I would go out with him.
I'd update him all the time.
I'd text him frequently.
But if like the end point is that I'm, okay, you cannot go out at all.
It probably wouldn't be the right person for me because I'm really social.
I like to go out.
And it's like I'm not doing, I'm obviously not doing anything.
I'm not intimate with a ton of people.
I'm not drinking.
So it's, I just don't really think it's my problem.
Yeah.
Here, I got a question.
Or Jim Bob, did you have a follow-up?
No, no, go ahead.
Okay.
So if we're looking at the perfect guy.
Okay.
So this perfect guy, he could, whatever that perfect guy looks like to you, at least from my perspective, having had quite a bit of dating experience, finding somebody who's compatible and who's remarkable, who's exceptional.
I mean, perfect goes even beyond exceptional and remarkable is exceedingly rare.
It's exceptionally rare.
In fact, perfect doesn't even exist.
So I would make all sorts of, I guess, I don't know if sacrifices is the right word.
I would make maybe concessions even.
I would make plentiful concessions and sacrifices for the perfect woman.
But like, you just, okay, hold on.
I don't go out to bars and clubs.
You're not willing to make that trade-off to me.
I mean, hey, that's you.
I guess I'm seeing it as like, you're saying this is my perfect person.
And I think my perfect person would be okay with that.
But does the perfect person do that?
But that then makes you stop doing everything you need to do in your life.
Okay, do you like, could you, do you like ice cream?
Yeah, I like ice cream.
Okay, question.
For the perfect guy, you could never, it's not, okay, it's not something that the guy is imposing upon you.
In the hypothetical scenario, you are delivered the perfect guy on a silver platter.
But in order to do that, you have to grant to the universe that you won't participate in certain behaviors.
Would you give up eating ice cream for the perfect guy?
I mean, I don't think I should have to live my life around someone else.
Even if they're not.
I just granted.
I know, but even if they're the perfect person for me, they're not...
No, but the perfect guy, he's not imposing this through his will on you.
The universe is saying, I'm giving you a trade.
So it's not, it's a hypothetical.
Of course it makes sense.
So the universe is presenting to you a scenario.
Here's a perfect guy, but you can no longer eat ice cream.
So he's not the one who's enforcing.
Does he let her go out?
Huh?
Is he the perfect guy?
Does he let her go out?
Well, first answer the ice cream one.
I probably wouldn't want to give up ice cream.
I really like ice cream.
Bro, you guys are insane.
Okay, look.
No, whatever.
If I had to settle down and I have to give up ice cream, like I'll give up.
So you get your fun and you have your ice cream parties.
Like if this is someone I think.
She also said, I don't want to give up anything I want for someone else, right?
Well, what do you think motherhood's going to be?
You keep saying motherhood.
I didn't say, okay, what I meant was, I'm not going to change how I am because someone I want to pursue doesn't like how I am.
I'm just not the right person for them.
It's all about preference.
So it's like if I'm not the right person for someone, I'm not.
No, no, no, no, hold on a second.
Not everybody wants kids.
But no, but this is nonsense.
You have this view that when you meet someone, the perfect match is that every in which way that you are should be good enough.
What if it's the case that the man who you meet helps you?
And what if it's the case that you help that man and his flaws and you help each other?
To start with this approach, it's super naive.
Okay, I'm granting you some charity because you're 18, but it's very naive to go into relationships and looking at this paradigm through the lens of, I am who I am.
Nobody I meet could ever contribute to me in a positive way by me filtering out some of the bad things that I like.
Okay, I understand what you're saying.
And I'm not saying that I don't have room to grow and change.
And I think other people could help me grow and like change.
But if it's something that I enjoy doing, I'm probably not the right person for them.
If they want me to stop doing something, so if I'm talking about soccer, if they don't want me to play soccer anymore, probably not the right person for them.
Just how I see it.
From what I think in a relationship, also it's when, to me, it's putting that person as giving them a priority, and I expect the same from them.
So if they want me to stop doing something and I trust that person, and that's what makes them part of that, makes them a perfect person, is because I trust their judgment.
I trust their initiative.
If they asked me to stop to do something, I would want to understand why that, where that is coming from.
And if it's something that makes sense for both of us and it's not coming out of an insecurity, then yes, I would comply.
I would comply if it's something that's going to make us grow together, if it's going to make us move forward.
Let's swap it for a second.
You ladies have probably met many of men who stay up until 3 a.m. playing video games or something like that.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I used to date a video gamer.
Right, right.
So if you thought that maybe giving your opinion about that, that said, you know, you know, I don't think this is actually good for you.
And because it's not good for you, it's not good for us, let's say.
Let's say hypothetically.
I'm not even saying I agree with this.
I'm just saying from your perspective, wouldn't it be reasonable and justified from your position to say something and say, you know what?
Even though you like staying up until 3 a.m., what sucks is that we don't have good mornings together.
You know, we don't have coffee together and talk and do all these other things that are bonding.
You're up late playing video games and it's actually to the detriment of the next day.
Would he, if he said to you, well, I'm just doing what I love and if you don't love, if you don't accept me staying up until 3 a.m. playing video games, then honey, I ain't right for you.
I don't like that.
Yes, you can try.
I actually do agree with that statement.
If that man truly just wants to be up at 3 a.m. playing video games and that's like who he believes that he is as a person, then you guys aren't right for each other.
I don't think it's like necessarily your place to change.
Exactly.
But I also think it's not necessarily the gaming.
It's not necessarily the mask.
It's not necessarily the gaming that's the problem.
It's the effects of the gaming.
So there's a problem from the gaming.
So it's them not waking up and having a good morning.
What would the problem of me going out be?
Because I'm not drinking.
I'm not being intimate with anyone.
I'm literally just having fun with my friends and being D D.
It just increases your likelihood of being in a dangerous situation.
I'd like to add on to that, though.
What are the potential ramifications?
Jim Bob said, well, it increases the chances of you being in this situation.
Do you want a guy who's a leader?
Yeah.
Do you want a guy who can protect you?
Yeah.
Okay, so you want a guy who's a leader.
You want a guy who can protect you.
Part of men protecting women is we don't, through our leadership, we don't want you guys to be put in potentially dangerous situations.
Okay.
So we know that women get roofied at parties and bars and clubs.
That's right.
We know that there's a higher likelihood of her being assaulted in some kind of way, whether physically or otherwise.
People get shot at the store nowadays.
Yeah, I mean, I was.
Bro, hold on, just to be clear.
I've been to Trader Joe's a fuck ton.
I've never seen a fight break out in Trader Joe's.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me address your thing.
I've been to Trader Joe's a bunch.
I've never seen a fight break out ever to Trader.
I've been to the store many times.
I've seen fights.
Every time I've been out, and I don't go out anymore, every time I've been out, somebody's getting knocked the fuck out.
Every single time I've been in the bars.
No, here in Santa Barbara, you go to the bars downtown.
You go party at the college.
There's multiple fights.
You can listen.
I mean, I never do this, but if you want, listen to the police scanner.
People are getting all this stuff.
People are getting into fights.
A security guard.
He told me all about the bars, but I've also worked in bars, been in bars.
You know, you just have to keep it.
Are there bouncers in bars?
Why do bars?
Have you ever seen a bouncer at a Trader Joe's?
I mean, she's...
I've seen security guards from L.A. There's security guards everywhere.
I don't see security guards Maybe not near a small town But like here in Santa Barbara, you go to Trader Joe's.
There's not a security guard.
In LA, there is.
You go to a bar or nightclub.
There's a security.
There's bouncers.
There's security all over the place.
And the Trader Joe's, the ones in Milpas, the grocery stores in Milpas, they have like a security guard.
Yeah.
But I think that's like a homeless problem.
Well, Milpas is kind of Santa Barbara.
But to your point, like going out, I'd be in danger.
So yesterday I got off of work and it was broad daylight and I work by the beach and I went to go see my friends who are also at the beach and I was parallel parking and some guy came up to my window and was trying to open my door and was kissing my window and like being gross and being creepy.
That happens everywhere.
Sure, I'm not as a woman.
No, but so then with your logic, would it be, okay, so after work, I have to go straight home because I can't put myself in danger.
Like you can be day.
No, you're making a face, but you said that going as a woman, we're subjected to it 24-7.
Wait a second.
Do you think that maybe the chances increase at night for your danger as opposed to just citing this one anecdotal thing during the day that may have happened?
Yeah, I mean, they can increase at night, but also if you're, I don't know, being responsible when you're going out, your chances are probably just as high as never drink open drinks, et cetera.
No, they're not.
They are.
As a woman, you have to put yourself in a woman's perspective, just like how you say we need to put ours in our mind in a man's perspective when doing jiu-jitsu, right?
You know, what is he thinking about?
What's a woman thinking about?
We can't walk down the street with our headphones in, even in broad daylight.
I'm constantly looking around, constantly observant, lock my car as soon as I get in it.
I don't care if I'm sitting in my driveway because of how much I've been situated to it.
Just the other day, I've got to do it.
Super simple question.
Super simple question.
Is it like pretty much anywhere in the world, anywhere in the world, is it safer at night or during the day?
Say about day.
Yeah, day is a bit safer, but it can still happen.
Daytime safe.
Yes, I agree that crime can happen at any time of the day.
I agree with you.
But nighttime's typically worse.
And when it comes to environments where there's alcohol and there's potentially guys who are trying to, who knows what they're trying to do, that's a good idea.
Even if you're a smart enough woman to assess a situation, and as long as you're not, you know, getting, you know, shot at or something, it's different.
It's something you can control.
You can get yourself out of situation.
Don't put yourself.
You can be in a nightclub and still not put yourself in a bad situation or figure out how to get out of it.
I'm giving you the male perspective on one of the reasons why from in terms of our lens of wanting to be protectors, which you guys allege you want, that would be within the purview of leadership and protection.
We don't want you putting yourselves in these sorts of dangerous environments.
So that's one of the things.
But also, as it relates to leadership, if we're saying, I don't want you to do this, are you a good so, in order for there to be a leader, there has to be a follower?
I've done a lot of things for guys that say, oh, I don't want you to do this.
I don't want you to do that when it comes to going out.
My job requires a lot of going out.
Actually, there's a lot of things I need to do as an actress when it comes to going out afterwards or being involved in film festivals or meeting up at bars for different things like that.
But talent rises to the top.
I don't care.
Fucking, oh, you're going to go to the bars.
No.
Like, I do have to go out a lot.
We need to networking as well.
There's a lot of networking is a component.
It's hosted at a lot of venues at our clubs.
If you're genuinely talented, you'll rise to the top.
Yeah.
And then you also, there's things like I've just been asked to not do a lot of things in relationships.
Even in music videos, you know, you get too close to the guys or something.
When I was in a relationship, there was a guy who didn't want me to be next to the guy at all or have any physical contact.
And there's been a lot of times where I've been submissive and it still doesn't work out because he's so insecure.
No matter what I did, even if I was just now I'm just in the music video getting my picture taken, whatever.
He can make up anything.
There's times where guys just ask you to do so much and then keep asking for more and more.
Are you saying the guys, the guy that you were with was feeling insecure because you were on a music video?
Right.
Yeah.
I was in a music video and I was next to the guy.
You know, we basically were a couple in the music video, is what it was like.
I wasn't like twerking or anything.
We were just in the music video as a couple.
And then he saw it.
He said, oh, I'm not okay with that.
I'm not comfortable with it.
And I said, okay, well, then I won't do that anymore.
Like, I won't, I won't be next.
I won't have any physical contact with guys in the music video.
Like, actress or something?
Is that like your ideal situation for you?
Right.
And I'm, and I'm comfortable not signing certain contracts saying that, oh, you have to have physical contact or anything like that.
Because I think it protects us both mutually in the relationship.
I wouldn't go on screen and be fully nude, for example, because that's not something I would like either.
Or, you know, have an intimate scene.
Yeah, I wouldn't care.
If I'm in a relationship with somebody, I'm not going to go and kiss someone on screen.
And I would sign a contract saying that I'm not going to be intimate with anyone.
Oh, so going back to the leadership thing, y'all want a guy who's a leader, but you're not prepared to be followers.
So stop demanding leaders if you're not prepared to follow.
And part of following means you got to follow his lead.
But if you need a leader, sorry.
So a leader doesn't like command you.
It doesn't order you around.
That's not the definition of a leader.
A leader guides.
It doesn't order you.
There's a difference, you know.
And I'm.
Of course, a leader can tell you what to do.
No, no, no.
But that's guiding.
That's guiding.
Ordering.
You know, like, sit down.
Oh, that's a guidance counselor.
It's okay to have conversations.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, but you guys.
That's a guidance counselor.
That's not a leader.
That's a guidance.
There's a difference between you leading her.
Sorry, is he paying all of her bills too, then, right?
He's paying all of her bills and doing all that for her.
He's providing everything, right?
He's leading and providing.
If he is, hold on.
If he is, what does he get in return?
If he's doing, I like I said, I'm fine with doing certain things for a guy when he is doing a lot for me as well and showing that he cares.
To me, it's okay.
Yeah, I'm okay with doing certain things for them.
I've, like I said, I've laid down a lot of my career opportunities, you know, things that could there's things that can enhance your career.
You don't have to twerk on screen or whatever, but you know, being even a physical contact, you can't, he didn't want me to put my arm around anybody and taking pictures, like things like that.
There's extremes.
I'm guiding you not to go to the club.
Okay.
Okay.
I mean, I've dated club promoters.
I don't understand.
Stop.
She brought up a specific, it's not all about you.
We're speaking in generalities here.
I get you're involved in the nightlife, whatever.
We're speaking in generalities.
In her case, she doesn't have any work relation to going out to bars and clubs.
So her career is not going to suffer.
Right.
So I'm speaking in generalities when I'm making these statements.
Could I also, definition, Brian, the definition of leader is a person who leads or commands a group, organization, or country, which would include an individual.
So literal, the word command is in the definition of leadership, but that's the difference between men and women.
A man would include command, point, direction, lead, and a woman would use the word guidance, you know, like if Brian and I were like in a discussion and there was like a disagreement and he was like, I command this, you know, you're on this show.
I command that you do this.
And I go, and I go, well, can't you guide me?
It wouldn't work.
This is not leadership.
So men actually can't be leaders of families.
They can't be fathers.
They can't even be leaders of organizations or anything else without commanding.
But the feminist view is that they have to lead in a passive feminine way.
So they're kind of like a chick leader.
Like, can you, oh, I want a strong man who leads and provides, but I want them to be a chick leader.
I want them to lead in a feminine way.
This is, you're not going to get the kind of men.
You're just going to get a bunch of feminine men if that's leadership to you.
One thing that I would also like to add about this part is like at 18, I might have agreed with that because I was like the exact same way.
Like I also wasn't up to any of that stuff, but I still wanted to go out and I would have said the exact same things.
But like now at 25, it's like I don't even have the desire to like go out to clubs and bars like that.
Like that just doesn't even sound exciting or fun to me.
Like I like the only time I even really want to drink is like, of course, there's some exceptions, but like I just want to like stay at home and have like wine and watch anime.
Yeah, no, I get that.
That's why earlier I was saying it's all about preference.
And like, so at 25, your preference now is to like stay in.
And like, so I'm totally agreeing with you.
Like I probably just wouldn't want to be with someone that doesn't want me to go out now.
I mean, further down the line, I'd probably be more open to not going out, but I'm still young and I don't want to put my life like on hold for someone else.
Yeah, and I understand that.
It's just like how he was saying in the example of like, if you have the perfect man, would you still want to go to bars and clubs?
It's like, there's realistically, there's a ton of ways you can spend time with like your female friends or even like any other thing without going to a bar or club.
Like I personally don't really want to go spend time with my girl at a club.
We can do literally anything else.
Like even if we're going to like some type of lounge or something like that, like there's so many other things that you can do besides go to a club because clubs are where men go to pick up women.
So why would I then insert myself into an environment where all the men are there to pick up women if I'm a woman who isn't able to be picked up?
Yeah.
So to me, the only way I would want to be at like a club club is with my boyfriend.
But like there's a ton of things I can just go do with my girls.
I'm not saying I don't go out with my girls and stuff.
I'm just saying that like clubs specifically, I just don't see a reason that a girl in a committed relationship should be at the club.
Yeah, I get that.
Like I've had different perspectives.
I've got to go back to my students too.
Sorry to interrupt.
You keep going back to preference too.
Let's ask a different question.
Do you have any obligations right now that would supersede your preferences?
What do you mean?
Do you have any obligations right now in your life that you have that they come over your preferences, that they actually trump your preferences?
Well, I feel like I do things that I want to do.
I'm confused at your question, I guess.
Is there anything that you do that you don't prefer to do, but you're obligated to do?
Yeah, I guess like school.
But in goal, in goal, I want to be in school.
So I don't know if that's a good idea.
That's the question is: like, ultimately, are you obligated to go to school?
Yeah.
You are?
You could, you, like, if you suddenly, I mean, I could quit school if I wanted to, but right if you prefer to think of in your lifetime, even looking far in the future, where your obligation to do something would trump your preference to not do it.
I don't know.
I don't, I'm not thinking that hard.
About motherhood.
About motherhood.
Are there things perhaps in your future as a mother, God willing, that you'll have to do things that are bound to your obligations and not your preferences?
Yeah, but I think when I have kids, I'll be ready to have kids and I'll want to have kids.
So it will ultimately all be things I'll want to do for my kids.
Right, but there are things you don't want to do that you have to to your kids and for your kids, too.
That's what I'm pointing to, is that ultimately obligations are the things that this generation has really lost.
You guys are just driven by wants and desires and preferences and purely materialistic bullshit.
And then when you're put on the spot, asked like, well, do you want to find a man of your dreams?
You say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want him to be this, this, and this, high quality, high income, this, this, and this.
Not that any of you have gotten to that point on this panel yet.
But when we ask you in return, what do you bring to the table?
You never say, I'll give you children.
I will stay at home and mother your children into great people.
You say, you say, you just get me.
I'm good enough.
I have a, you know, I'm a graduate in sociology or some shit.
And that's what we're asking you constantly.
What do you guys give in return for the men that you're trying to find?
If they fulfill their obligations as men in your perfect world, what are you doing?
Are you asking me, or is that like everyone?
Any of you.
I mean, really, any of you.
Loving environment?
Like a home?
Like beautiful.
I don't know.
I feel like women are homemakers.
People are going to be mad at me for it, but women are homemakers.
That's what they used to do.
That's what they're supposed to do.
They say that a house isn't a home without a wife.
They say that it takes a wife to make the home.
What is a man supposed to do?
He's supposed to go provide for his family, be a provider, take care of his whole family while the woman is at home, taking care of her family, taking care of her house, because everything is hers.
It might be from the man, but everything's the woman's.
You know, she takes care of the kids.
She takes care of the house.
She takes care of the food.
She takes care of the laundry.
You don't know where your clothes are.
You're asking your wife.
You don't know where your socks are.
You're asking your wife.
You don't know where something is.
You're calling your wife.
I guess she brings in nurturing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like she thinks more how they say too.
It's like dads are more aggressive.
They're more tough love and how moms are more nurturing.
Like you said, nurturing.
You know, like a woman's touch is really more what it is.
A lot of men don't want to say that they need women.
They don't, this, they don't that, but men do need women.
You know, like I said, people are going to be men.
But I say behind every great man is a woman.
So it sounds like most of you agree and understand the descriptive reality of men and women, ultimately, what their obligations and duties and what they're good at are.
The question I have is, what is this waste of time between 22 years old and 35?
Figuring it out.
What is it you're doing?
You know, some of us are healing, you know?
Some of us are feeling healing.
Yeah.
You know, some of us are.
It's not figuring it out stage.
You don't really know until you go through it.
Yeah, like sometimes some people too.
It's like you could be with someone and you could think you're fully 100% ready or they're 100% ready, but you don't even know what ready is.
You're ready for what, though?
You know what I mean?
What exactly are you ready for?
You're ready to get a house.
You're ready to get a business.
You're ready to fully shift focus.
You're ready to start a family.
You're ready to do what exactly?
When you say you're ready, when you are 22, at 22, do you feel any of you guys here, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 25?
Do you feel you're ready to take on any of that responsibility by yourself or with someone who you see yourself with?
I don't think so.
I did.
Yeah, I did when I was younger, but just not motherhood.
I don't want to be a mother.
Different.
You know, I have a lot of people, they want kids, they don't want kids.
Some people, they don't even see themselves getting houses.
They want to live high-rise houses.
They want to live penthouses.
They want to live traveling.
You know what I mean?
Everyone's just kind of different and in their own way, you know?
I'd like to chime in with that.
Like, for me, all I've always known that I wanted to be a wife.
And at first, I was like, I don't want, at first, I used to think that I didn't want kids.
Then I realized, like, when I found the right person, I realized that all I wanted to do was like be a wife and mother.
And right now I like to settle down because that's what you know, because that's what's comfortable.
That's what you are raised to think you're supposed to get married.
You're supposed to, and most people do.
You know, like you want to get married.
You want someone there for you.
You want the everyone does.
You know, you could say you don't, you know, whatever.
But to each his own, but in the end, that is, why wouldn't you want to get married?
You know what I mean?
Why wouldn't you want to be with your person?
And like, yeah, that's the question that he was that he was asking, like, what's the wasted time between 22 and 30 for a lot of women?
And I'm personally saying that I don't think that, like, for me personally, I know that we might be speaking in generalities, but I'm just answering for me personally because that's all that I can.
Like, me personally, I've always known that I just wanted to be a wife and be a mother.
And I've always known that I'm dating to marry.
And like, me personally, I just don't, I wouldn't entertain a man that I didn't think would be suitable to be my potential husband, nor would I enter a relationship with a man or any type of like involvement with a man that I don't think is possible to be my future husband.
So I don't think that I'm wasting time between 22 and 30.
I like, I feel like I'm exactly where I should be right now.
Really quick before you have your follow-up, Jim Bob.
JJ comes in here with a great super chat.
Go ahead and play the clip.
Put it on video time.
All right, go ahead and play it.
With everything under the last boss, and it wasn't good for me at all.
So I want guidance.
I want leadership.
But don't just like boss me around, you know?
Like, lead me.
Leave me when I'm in the mood to be led.
To be led.
Okay, that's ridiculous.
But yeah, that's crazy.
And then, Jim Bob, do you have a follow-up on that?
I just wanted to frame it as like the leverage that women have in, you know, it's still in disparity to men's force.
You know, men dominate for a reason.
But the thing that women do have is their fertility.
And what they do have is they can offer a man what no other person could offer, no other man could offer, which is motherhood, which is being the spouse, which is running the household, which is for a society, it's a microcosm of the society.
The thing that women leverage is the ability to be the bearers of children for the next generation.
Not only that, but to raise them.
And it just seems that this whole like, I'm chasing my dreams, I'm healing, I'm learning, I'm this, I'm that.
And it's like the thing you guys are good at, you actually do naturally.
So there's nothing to really learn other than to just follow through with what you're natured to do.
Well, there's a super powerful position.
And it's like, for some reason, you believe this lie.
Not you guys in particular, maybe some of you, but there is this general generational lie accepted that being in the home and being a mother and being submissive to a husband is somehow degrading or it's not, it's not what it is.
I should be out there running a company.
You've been lied to.
And the sad part is that you waste your fertile years chasing a dream to mimic a man.
And you just become a weak man.
That's all you become.
I see you shaking your head.
I see you shaking your head.
What's your response?
I just don't believe that, you know, a woman has to be a mother.
That's not something that has to be done.
I personally, if I get into a relationship, that's one of the first things I start with.
Actually, I want to know that the guy doesn't want children because I know that I do not want children.
That's not my preference.
That's not something I see myself doing.
But I do believe it's a very admirable thing.
A woman being a mother is super admirable.
Not many people can do it.
And I also personally don't think I would want to do it or think I can do it.
So I know it's better for me in the long run to not do that.
And as long as the guy's okay with it, then that's fine.
Okay.
So if you don't bring to the table being a mother, you do understand that you are basically reducing the pool of men that you're going to end up being with for a long term, right?
Not everyone wants to be a dad.
I mean, a dad.
Yeah, not everyone.
Exactly.
I just pick.
I start with.
Okay.
If you take everyone who wants to be a dad and everyone who doesn't want to be a dad, right?
If you don't want kids, you're only dealing with the people who don't want to be dads, right?
That's less people, right?
Less men to choose from.
Right.
Correct.
And that's okay.
Okay.
Okay, you're okay.
But the thing is, what is your relationship long term if it's not a family?
What is it?
It's still a family.
You two are considered a family.
Just because you're not having children, your families, let's say you get married, of course, you know, your husband and wife, your families are now intertwined.
That's a whole family right there.
Just because you're not having children doesn't mean you're not a family.
That's a really weird thing to say.
Your family, as soon as you're married, what is the purpose of the relationship?
Being together.
Yeah, being solidified.
I guess it would be a partnership because what would you say to the couples that can't have children?
So I think at least me and Jim Bob here, we're not disputing that there are certain couples that can't have children.
We're not disputing that there are women out there who don't want children.
There are men out there who don't want children.
If you want to partner up with them, that's fine.
I don't know about you, Jim Bob.
I don't really think there's anything to dispute there.
But what Jim Bob, I think, is getting at is of the women who do want to have children, that's kind of where we're coming at.
And then, but even then, even the women who don't want to have children, like, do you want to get married?
I do want to get married.
Yeah.
So that adds another layer.
Why?
Like, just to be clear, I think you cannot get married and have a long term, stay with somebody for your entire life, be monogamous.
You can even have kids with them, but you don't want to have kids.
So why do you want to get married?
That's very traditional, but you don't strike me as someone who's particularly traditional.
Right.
Well, I did grow up, I was raised kind of, you know, I was in a religious household and things like that.
So I don't consider myself religious.
I just consider myself having a relationship with God.
If I had to fall under something, it'd be like non-denominational Christian, you know, that kind of thing.
But I definitely do believe in the principles of marriage itself.
Which are what?
Well, it's the union of two people, you know, and that's it's a solidifying your bond to the world, to yourselves, under God, in my opinion, too, you know.
So doesn't God also say, Quinton, help me out.
What is it?
Fruitful?
Be fruitful or something?
I don't know.
Right.
That's why I'm also not religious because I.
Well, but so you're being very convenient and you're picking and choosing.
You're cherry picking.
I wouldn't say it's cherry picking because you also have to understand the dynamics of it.
Wait, but you're rejecting this one component of religion, but like, so you're like, oh, marriage benefits me because it provides me security in the relationship and there's other benefits too, but also rejecting other components.
that doesn't make sense, really.
I know that in my life, if I'm not called to have children, I don't think that's.
And in the beginning, it said that.
So with the Bible, in the beginning, it did say, you know, be fruitful and multiply.
There was also no people on the earth.
You kind of have to think about that.
When it was stating that verse, it did say that in the beginning.
I mean, we have a population collapse.
Are you about to say that we're overpopulated?
I'm not saying that.
No, I'm just saying that.
Wait, what's the reason you want kids?
Overpopulation?
No.
The reason I don't want kids is because I don't see myself as being fit to be a mother, nor do I see it in my future.
Like, I don't.
Are you fit to be a wife?
Yes.
Yes, I can definitely be a great person.
What do you feel the difference is?
The difference between wife, you have a whole child with the difference between wife and women.
I think earlier when I had mentioned, you know, like about your helping your husband with kids and whatnot, it's kind of the same thing.
You're helping each other.
You're expecting your person to be like grown, but you also want to kind of mold them to help them, right?
Well, when I'm in a relationship, like if I'm in, if I'm married, I don't see him as my child.
He's my partner.
So there's a whole big difference between having a husband and a child.
And if you have a child, you're a mother, not a wife.
You're a wife and a mother.
Is there a difference between a partner and a husband?
A piece of paper and a ring.
I mean, are you equal in duties?
No, your duties are different.
You're equal as people.
Yeah, I agree.
You're equal in value as people, but if your duties aren't equal, if his duty is to protect you and provide for you, what's your duty that you're bringing?
Your emotional support to the man, you know, with what he's doing.
So you're a backbone for him, and he can come to you with different things and your love in the relationship.
What's that?
So it sounds like a mom.
So the thing is, if he brings the bacon home and protects you and provides the home and the house and everything else.
And that's if that's the agreement.
As a husband, okay?
What's yours is supportive.
But if he can do that without you, what's your obligation if he can do that without you?
We can all do things without each other.
And if the obligation in the relationship is for him to just be the breadwinner and that's what he wants to do and he wants to provide for me and me be the way I am, that's great.
If we're both agreeing that I'm going to work as well, that's also great.
I have no problem with an equal dynamic relationship like that as well.
So it sounds like if he's bringing, if his obligation is to protect and provide, your obligation is just to support him vocally.
Like, you know, what is what is, how is this equal?
There's just different roles.
So if you're if the guy's providing, like you said, a woman brings a lot to the table when it comes to being loving and caring and stable.
Cleaning.
Yeah.
Keeping the house in order.
Right.
If that's, yeah, she, that's typically what that's my natural thing, honestly.
When I'm in an environment, even when I'm dating a guy, I'll tend to want to do that for him, honestly.
That's something I enjoy.
I enjoy cooking.
I enjoy cleaning.
I enjoy doing something nice for him to make his life easier, honestly.
If he's working all day, I'm naturally going to want to do things for him, honestly.
I think they're trying to like compare the motherly and nurturing to your husband compared to being a mother mother, even though because you do motherly and nurturing things for your man naturally, right?
Which would be considered like motherly, like doing their laundry, cooking for them, clean up after them.
Because I mean, that's what moms do, essentially.
I just don't, I think that's what they're saying.
I understand what you're saying.
Like, like it's like kind of like the natural as a woman, your instinct to take care.
Right.
Doesn't always mean you want to take care of a child.
No, exactly.
I don't want to take care.
It's where my selfishness does come in because it is part of what my job, my lifestyle does not support having children.
I love to travel personally, and that'll take a big cut on what I'm able to do and where I'm able to go.
So it's important to me to have that not limited.
How's that not going to impact a husband then?
He has to fly with you to go on your auditions.
If he'd like to, you know, it's not like, let's say I'm dating a pilot.
I don't have to fly with him everywhere he goes.
I'm asking you, if you think it's unrealistic to be a mother and like a homemaker based on what your choice of career or what you think is going to happen in your future, I just don't understand if being the homemaker, even without children, isn't in the cards, it's not conducive to your preferences and your lifestyle.
How is having a husband conducive at all to that lifestyle?
As long as they're okay with my lifestyle, just like I'd be okay with what they do.
I don't understand.
I feel like it feels like you're trying to convince her to want to have kids.
I feel like some people just don't want to have kids and that's just how it is.
I don't know why there has to be like some degrees and just some people.
And I think it's the right thing to do.
It's more selfless, if anything, if I don't think I'm prepared or willing to.
I've already, this ship has sailed in my mind for you having kids unless something drastic changes in your spirituality, I believe.
But the thing is, I'm just pointing to the pragmatism of your view right now, which is, well, I think I could be a wife and we ask what a wife is and you list a bunch of things that wives do in the house.
But then you say, my lifestyle really isn't conducive to that.
And so if it's not conducive to the complementary traits and behaviors to your man, I'm asking you, what is this relationship if you're flying around the U.S. doing who knows what?
Like what?
Who knows what?
You mean working?
A marriage.
Who knows what relating to work?
Whatever it is.
I don't care what it is.
I'm just asking the children.
Or, I mean, leisurely travel.
Yeah.
I mean, I would hope that my partner would want to travel with me.
That would be the goal.
I would want a travel buddy.
Like, when I see myself having a husband, here it is.
Here it is.
Yes, my husband would be my travel buddy.
He would want to go with me.
Totally cocked.
Just a puppy dog, a lap dog.
That's your ideal, isn't that?
No, because he has the same ideals.
Going into a relationship, guess what?
I don't know about everybody, but I know when I go into a relationship, this is what I like to do.
This is who I am.
And usually I get, oh my God, I love to travel too.
And so why can't we travel together?
Why can't we do those things together?
Aren't you traveling for your job?
Sometimes, yeah, but I love to travel in general.
That's one of my things that I do for fun.
So your ideal man is to follow you around on a plane to no, because if we're together, we're deciding the trips together.
If that's a hobby I do, we can pick the trips together and go on them together because they also like to travel.
These are things you talk about in the beginning of a relationship.
Do you want kids?
Yes or no?
You kind of get these things out of the way so you don't waste your time, actually.
Wasting your time would be what you're not setting yourself up to win.
I'm just saying.
But a relationship isn't straight up why you are because if you go over the preferences in the beginning, you're setting yourself up to win if you know exactly what you want, both of you.
How is it winning to wind up with a man who abandons his duties and interests to follow you around like a lapse?
Why is he abandoning?
You know, literally, he can do whatever he wants to do.
If he's working, you know, whatever he does at his job, great.
And then we're going to travel together.
What's wrong with that?
She's not saying he has to follow her around or whatever.
She's just saying, like, look, if I'm traveling, he can come with me.
Like, that's working to New Zealand.
She's not saying he wants to not work at all.
She's not saying he doesn't want to follow her.
I can cook when I'm home.
I don't mind cooking.
I'm actually a great cook.
What does she say?
Right?
That's not what you said.
She wants a cook.
Isn't that what you're trying to say?
What is that?
I couldn't tell which word it was for either of you.
What is a cook?
I mean, what happened is she listed some jobs.
What is that?
That would be a cook.
What is that?
What is keeping a home?
It sounds like in yours.
That's what I'm saying.
There's no actual home.
It's almost like there's locations.
And then you can your relationship to locations, but there's nothing home that's grounded, right?
If you're living in a home together, you have a home, and yes, you can travel together.
And if I'm going to go travel by myself, that's also fine too.
And as should he, if that's what he likes to do, if that's something we're mutually interested in, I think for some people traveling so much where you're not at home, what is your relationship?
I don't understand.
I think for some people, long-distance relationships also don't exist in your mind, in your opinion.
That's not a thing.
Long-term relations.
Long distance, because if you're not together, right, that's what you're saying.
You can't be in a long distance relationship.
That's a fantasy along.
Truckers, pilots, anybody who goes military, God forbid you go overseas, right?
No, no, pilots come home a lot of times the same day or the second day.
I know many pilots who do not do that.
Oh, wow.
You know an exception.
For the most part, pilots come home.
They stay a couple.
Even that is too stressful for people.
That's a stretch.
But you're actually arguing, well, no, this is an amazing opportunity to find a man who is basically going to say yes to you sort of gallivanting around, right?
So who is this man?
It's not a man who wants to settle down.
So you're actually reducing your options to men who don't want to settle down.
And you're going to be surprised that you wind up alone and not famous and not an actress.
And because you want to.
I'm not famous as an actress because I want to because I don't want kids and don't want to.
So what does that even mean?
No, I'm saying that you're setting, you're setting yourself up based on your preferences.
I believe that you have a somewhat, and I don't mean this condescendingly, a delusional view of what you think is going to happen or what you think is possible in a workable relationship.
It sounds like you're not willing to sacrifice a damn thing about your preferences.
That's absolutely not true.
I've sacrificed so many things about what I do in the relationship before, and it's still got me nowhere because people take advantage of that actually.
But anyway, yeah, so as far as I see it, I state out what I like in the beginning of the dates and things like that.
When we're first starting to talk, that's where I state what I'd like in a relationship.
And if they're on the same track, then we can move on and continue.
And that's how it goes.
That's how you know you're not wasting your time.
But if Jim Bob is saying X things are good in a relationship, like X things are good to do in a relationship, and you say, I tried X things in a specific relationship and that relationship didn't work out.
That isn't necessarily evidence that X things are good.
It was many relationships, actually.
I tried to do a lot of submissive things.
I was very submissive.
There's even a preview.
So what I would say that is a woman could be acting perfectly in terms of her own conduct.
Although I think this is probably typically, this is probably typically rare.
But you are attracted to a certain type of guy.
Like if you say you've had all these relationships and what, the guy's a dickhead cheats on you.
I have been cheated on like many times.
Yeah.
So there's probably something in terms of your selection that.
Oh, I know.
I know I need to work on the selection.
But I don't know.
I also think I've been lied to, you know, because if I state what I like and they're not okay with that later on, that's, I've had a lot of people where I've said, okay, I don't want this.
I don't want kids.
And then they're okay with that, right?
And but where I say, oh, I like to travel or I'm a model actress.
My job entails this.
Guys will change up like you're saying and say, oh, I actually don't want you to do this or that.
Jim Bob, do you have any final thoughts on this?
Because I do got to move it onto something else.
No, no, no.
It's just that this, and it's just what Brian said, is that your preferences are minimizing your selection.
That's all.
And that's fine.
Maybe your preferences will change, which is fine.
And we're just pointing out, like, if you follow these down, there is going to be maybe a moment for you, and this is just an invitation, is that maybe the vision you have for your future that's completely driven by just your preferences, you might want to look at potentially altering that to expand the selection that you might be exposed to.
That's up to you.
I'm just saying, it's like, I'm just saying that the reality is you have a minimized selection.
And that's okay.
The minimalized section is fine.
I just need to find the right one when they come along.
That's the right one.
The one who will flow with me and I'll flow with them.
All right.
We have Lucas here with the Super Chat.
Let's dispense with the gaslighting, shaming tactics, and empty platitudes about trust.
Refraining from certain activities as a married person is a matter of etiquette and respect.
I just asked my wife if she'd be cool with me going to the Playboy Mansion every weekend.
She said, are you nuts?
So to you, would you be okay with your husband, boyfriend, whatever, going to the Playboy Mansion every weekend?
Me?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Probably not, but Playboy Mansion is like...
What do you mean?
He's going to the Playboy Mansion.
That's a lot different than going out to a party with my friends.
I'm just confused at how those are like that.
I don't know what I'm saying.
The girls can only get with Hef.
The girls can only get with Hef.
So that's also true.
I'd probably just be more curious.
I go to Playboy Mansion too sometimes.
Well, I mean, Hefner is no longer alive.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, he definitely is.
It's not really a worrisome.
It's changed a lot.
Pretty sure in the history of the Playboy Mansion, other men who have gone to Playboy Mansion parties have slept with them.
I'm going out.
I probably honestly want my boyfriend there.
Like, I probably, I mean, I'd want to go out with my friends.
Say he doesn't want to go out, and he's like, I don't want you to go out either.
I mean, if it's like, oh, tonight, I don't want you to go out.
Like, I want to hang out with you tonight.
Yeah, I'd probably stay.
But if it's like, oh, I never want you to go.
It's just blanket.
He doesn't want you to go out to bars and clubs.
Like, ever again?
Yeah.
Well, if I'm older and I'm ready to settle down, that'd be fine.
But really?
But it sounded like earlier, even if you were ready to settle down, you wouldn't want to be with a man who would be, I guess, in your frame of view, controlling like that.
No, I just think it has to do with like my age.
Like if I'm ready to settle down, I'm ready to settle down.
I think right now I wouldn't want to be with someone that would like tell me not to go out because I'm still 18.
Like I still want to experience life.
My whole life doesn't like revolve around like relationships.
I mean, friendships, but I'm not like, I don't know.
I feel like if I want to go out and experience life, that's what I want to do.
You're going out, but you're not like trying to be pursued.
That's not the reason you're going out.
Yeah, no, that's not why I go.
Lucas, do you women actually really believe that any busy, affluent, high-caliber, good-looking man would spend even five seconds negotiating boundaries with you if you don't fall in line with his values and expectations?
There are 50 other girls waiting to replace you.
Female pride and entitlement shaking my head.
Oh, this is Lucas.
Giga Chat is Stream Labs not working, man.
$500 in the chat, Lucas.
What does that look like, Lucas?
Crazy for that guy to drop.
Handsome guy, though.
Handsome guy.
I'll probably just pretend.
But yo, thank you for the soup chat, Lucas.
He does raise a good point.
But I think you can say the same thing about men.
Like, you really think a man is going as a woman, like personally speaking, I have standards, you know?
And if this person doesn't meet my standards, I have absolutely no trouble with letting them go.
You know, it's okay that we don't agree and we don't have to agree, nor am I going to force that person to agree or meet my standards.
But I think there's a differential here because the standards, and look, there's differences in what I'm about to say, but this is just a generalization.
So there's a lot of beautiful women.
Men have like very, I think, fairly narrow standards in terms of what they're looking for.
Men are, generally speaking, looking for more than just physical beauty, but like there's a lot of very attractive women out there.
I'd say there's more attractive women than there are attractive men.
And I'm saying that not necessarily by the that's true.
Yeah, I do see it.
Well, okay, from from the horse's mouth, I guess, but from a bird's eye view, but that's in terms of women's assessment of men.
I actually think that there's a greater proportion of good men that women don't agree with me in terms of their assessment of good men.
But it doesn't really matter what I think.
Ultimately, women are the deciders when it comes to who they end up dating.
So women think there's a shortage of good quality men out there.
And there's a higher proportion of like the baseline for men to be attracted to women is far lower than the baseline for women to be attracted to men.
Like it takes a lot for y'all to be attracted to a guy.
I don't think for me, it is true to me.
I don't know.
I'm not attracting everybody off the bat.
If I'm like into the mic, sorry.
If I like someone, like I feel like it's pretty easy if I flow with you and I have good conversation.
Like I like you.
It doesn't necessarily mean I want to like settle down and date that person.
Wait, why is that confusing?
So of all the men you encounter, what percent of them would you consider date date worthy?
I'm not saying like a lot of y'all will go on a date just for the fuck of it.
Like you're not sure yet if you're actually going to be interested in the guy.
I'm saying when I say date, I mean this is a guy who you would want to be in a relationship with, who you are like you're attracted to the guy.
What percentage of men are you attracted to and would want to be in a relationship with?
Low.
Like out of just everybody else.
Or have you been on a dating app?
How many of the guys do you swipe yes on the dating app for?
And why they never had a dating app.
Okay, basically all you're doing is let's start it on dating apps.
So for you, and I can open up to the rest of the panel.
Yeah.
Who here's been on a dating app?
Just show of hands.
Yes.
Never been on no.
I don't need one.
Okay.
When you're swiping, what percentage of men are you swiping yes for?
10%?
Yeah, it's pretty low.
It's pretty low.
If you had 5%, 10%?
We should do it.
We should bust out Bumble right now.
That's a good idea.
But what?
5%, 10%?
Yeah, 5-10.
Okay, what about you?
I don't really know.
I don't really always check the new people.
I only see like the ones that like my account.
So I don't know.
You know, part of that selection is just so low.
Like I can tell by looking at your profile that you just want to date around.
You know, not just women want to date around, but men also just want to date around.
So I can tell, you know, and I would like to think that I can tell when a man is just looking for a hookup.
You know?
Yeah, I also, sorry.
And also in the conversations that we have, I get a clearer understanding.
Oh, this man just wants to hook up and this man just wants to actually, you know, want to get to know me.
So it's not.
Sorry, go ahead.
Sorry, sorry to interrupt.
What percent of people of men do you think who are on Tinder and these kind of swipe machines want to just hook up?
Oh, like literally probably all of them.
High percent, right?
Right.
It's really high, right?
Which what makes our pool small.
So like it makes sense that we swipe right on the five to ten percent.
It's okay.
You're participating in something that's counterintuitive to your own standards.
How do you mean?
You don't want to you ultimately want to find someone who what do they call them a fuckboy or something like that?
I'm too old for this shit.
You're trying to find someone serious ultimately that's respectable, that is stable, has a good job, potentially father material, husband material.
Ultimately, I mean, let's just face it.
I will say that dating apps isn't the best, isn't the best way to look for it, a high value or an ideal man.
I would say it's one of the worst.
Probably the worst.
Meeting organically is always better.
And how many of you single are still on those apps?
I'm only on it, like, this is going to sound so bad, but just like when I'm bored, I'll just swipe on it.
Like, I never, I don't think I'd ever want to go on a date with anyone from a dating app.
That's a terrible thing to say, but it's true.
So why are you even on that app?
I don't know.
Like, it's like, it's kind of like fine.
Oh, you get validation because all the guys are giving you attention.
Yep, that's exactly why.
I mean, that's probably it.
No, that is.
If you admit that it's counterintuitive and you're not going to find the man that you actually value on there, where are these men, do you think?
Oh, they're at work.
Yeah, they're at work.
They're working.
They're putting holding value that they value.
At home?
See, it's hard to find someone that's like high value because they're always traveling.
They're always at work.
And especially if they're family-oriented, then they're spending time with family.
If the girl or the female, you know, she's high-value, she too is spending time with her family.
She too is focusing on her career.
Wait, what makes a high-value woman?
I think someone who has high principles and morals, values, to me, that's what it is.
I wouldn't say I'm religious, but I would say that I do have a relationship with God.
And I think just learning about him has taught me so much.
Sorry, who's him?
Oh, God.
Oh, okay.
Just learning about him and just really reading the Bible and understanding the tremendous love that he has for all of his children has really put things into perspective.
Do you think body count would depict who is a high-caliber woman and who isn't?
I do.
I think.
Can you repeat the question?
Sorry.
If high body count has to do with high value?
Gosh, you know.
It does matter.
I think it does matter.
But at the same time, I also do think that God came to this world to renew and restore.
And you know, his grace and mercy is big and bountiful.
And even though you may have a history of like a high body count, if you come to him in God's eyes, yeah.
No, yeah, definitely.
I think they're talking about your husband, right?
Okay.
Keep going.
You're in God's eyes, yes.
Of course, you can be redeemed.
And then it's something you have to when you ask for forgiveness and redemption.
It changes you.
It does.
And then he really changes you.
It really does.
And you have to be in it, though.
You know, you don't just keep going back.
No, it's a lifestyle.
Yeah.
It's a lifestyle.
It's a dedication.
It's a relationship that you nurture every single day.
And when it comes to a man, you know, I would, I've never met a high-value man that doesn't want, that wants a woman that's ran through, I guess, would be the best.
Oh, my lynch is best for all of us.
I've met all men that want the hose.
I've met a lot of high-value men that want the hose.
I don't know.
I would also argue that past behavior is kind of a good indicator of future behavior.
Like if it's, I understand for some people, they like have made a mistake once or twice, but in order to have a high body count, you have to have made that mistake like a dozen times for it to be high.
So I don't think that when you're saying high body count, it's like somebody who made a mistake once or twice.
You're getting to these high numbers.
That's true.
So this is an indicator of like a repeated thing that you consistently do.
Some people have to like really have to repeat their mistakes over and over and over again.
Would they not repeat them during marriage?
I don't know.
Do you think they're more likely?
Do you think women are more likely to repeat those mistakes if they're told every day from every angle of society that that's empowering to be promiscuous?
I think that's what's wrong with society.
Like you're really trying to, you know, I don't know.
Promote sex.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, promote sex.
That's, to me, that's really damaging, not only for women, but for men.
Because though women may be putting that content out there, you know, the customers are the men.
You know, like it's not one without the other.
They're both equally responsible for nurturing and building this type of society.
Now we've been insensitized to it.
We see it as normal.
So would you be willing to shame people that you knew for?
I would never shame anyone.
No.
That's not my position.
That's the point then.
That's not my position.
That's not shame.
That's not my position to shame anyone.
That's your.
First of all, shaming does not come from God.
He doesn't do that.
He's righteous.
Right.
Condemnation does not come from God.
To make you righteous, exactly.
No, righteous judgment.
Righteous just judgment, not shame.
Right?
There's different.
Shame comes from sin.
If you correct your child for something they did and they feel shame, even if you corrected them and it ended in them feeling shame, you still correct them, even if they feel shame.
I would say if you're correcting them, you are disciplining them and it comes from a place of love and understanding.
So if you're disciplining.
Hold on a second.
I asked a very specific question.
If you come from love, right?
If you are guiding and not commanding, if you say, if you correct and discipline, if it just so happens that your child or whoever you're disciplining feels shame, it doesn't negate the correction, right?
I think the shame came from the action, not the discipline.
Right.
I agree.
So you're not going to answer?
I didn't ask where it came from.
I said, do you still correct people's behavior, even if it ends in an outcome where they feel shame?
I can't control how they will feel.
So if they feel shame, I know, but I know.
Oh, let me finish.
If I correct them and they feel shame, that's them.
Like, I can't control how you feel after you've been corrected.
But I will.
Wait, so I'll reframe.
So I'll reframe the question.
Do you think it's a good idea to correct women who are following suit with a high promiscuity count?
How would you correct a woman?
Tell them that they're doing something damaging to themselves.
I think they already know that.
And you can't just think they already know that because what are we in a society that most women think it's empowering because of feminism?
Exactly.
They think they lead by empower.
What about leading by example?
I, for example, don't do OnlyFans or anything like that.
And I've been peer pressured many times in the industry to do certain things like sex work, but it's not something that I would like to do, want to do, or morally align with.
I agree with you.
Yeah.
I think that's where it comes from.
You know, you're able to.
I'm saying that the, I'm not asking what you guys think you could do or not do or what you think is right or wrong.
I'm saying that we as humans in society, men and women, have an obligation to correct other people in our society.
But the thing is, everyone's so afraid to correct people that degeneracy ends up being some sort of like virtuous, heroic thing, and everyone's championing it.
Now we're in basically a disaster culturally.
Societally, we're in a disaster.
Not only are women thinking that promiscuity, now they're even to men.
They can have sex.
Well, they're making so much money doing it because of the men who want to contribute to it.
Hold on.
Hold on a second.
If the men want that and they can't get it, for instance, if AI takes over all of the OnlyFans accounts, right?
In the next two years.
Totally fake women, right?
If those men still do that, that's an act against them, right?
But what will women do, right?
To compete with that?
For those of you selling your bodies online, right?
What are you going to do when that kind of takes the place?
Because what I'm saying, and many people like me are saying, you women have been sold a lie, but the partial truth to the lie is that the leverage you have is your sex, is your virtue, your virginity, and your ability to be mothers for families.
And what happened is feminism told you, pussy power.
Your power is the pussy.
And that's true, actually.
It's true.
It's just that they've inverted it and twisted it.
They've twisted it.
Go use it.
That's your power.
Well, no, it's disempowering.
You've been lied to.
You think it's freedom.
It's not.
You're literally destroying not only your connections to people, but you're destroying your value economically out on the field.
It's completely destroyed.
I understand and agree with that.
I think for the purpose of like when you originally raised the question about like righteous judgment and whose right it is to judge, like just because like I personally don't partake in those activities either, but I also don't judge other women.
Just because I like I have my own opinions about like what I want to do for my body and like what I would want for my future daughters, but that doesn't mean that I'm necessarily looking down on other women for it.
And I also feel like it's kind of like skill-based matchmaking in terms of men.
It's like if you're a man and you don't want to be with a woman who's done OnlyFans or has done certain things, then you as a man can just choose to not date women who do that.
I don't think that it needs to be a matter of like shame or like I don't need to police other women's bodies.
This is absurd.
If you're going to have a future where you're going to be a mother, God willing, and I hope you will, I think you'll make a great mother just based on what you've said tonight, is that as soon as your daughters turn 18 and let's say their friends tell them selling your body on OnlyFans is empowering and they start believing their friends.
Are you not going to come in and judge the action?
We're not talking about judging the heart.
We're talking about judging the action and coming in as a mother and saying, no, that's not empowering.
That woman's wrong.
That's the wrong thing to do.
Is that a judgment?
I think that we're kind of not talking about individuals versus generalities.
I would police my daughter about that because that is my individual.
I'm talking about on a larger societal scale of me policing women as a whole is what I'm saying that I don't want to do.
I would discipline my child and my daughter if that's what she decided to do.
I would not be in favor of that behavior as a mother.
But I can't, I can't enforce my values onto other individual women.
You can state them, but you can't enforce.
Yeah, I can state, I can tell them.
I can just make the statement that that's not what I want to do.
That's not what I wish for other women.
And that's not what I wish for myself.
And I statement for children.
But I'm not going to be like, hey, you don't make an OnlyFans.
That's not my business.
Let's do it.
Let's say you have a best friend and you both have kids at the same time.
And they both end up being girls, right?
And at 18, they're still friends.
The one friend, your friend's daughter, gets into this, starts influencing your daughter.
You end up talking to the mother.
Do you tell if you have the chance?
Do you try to correct out of love, correct that mother and say, I think they're doing the wrong thing.
I think you should correct this.
Yes, I would, but that's on an individual level rather than a societal level.
What is a society made of?
I understand that you're going to a society that's made out of like a larger scale.
And I understand that.
I'm just saying that like for me, I would tell the mother and like the at that point, I would imagine that I would view this girl as like my niece and my familiar person that I need to like make sure that she doesn't go down the wrong path.
But I don't think that the, yes, and I feel like the average woman doesn't need to hear my condemnation for her OnlyFans.
She already knows.
Hold on.
If it's good, if it's good at the micro level of the family and the extended family, which is your community and people you look at, even if they're not blood related, you look at as your cousins and your friends and your aunts and all these things.
If that's true at that level and you think that's good, how could you say it's not something that you ought to do each phase out?
You know what I mean?
Like you zoom out the collective, the city now, the state now, the country.
How could it possibly be a bad thing to step in as women?
Because this is what's missing.
Men are starting to understand this.
Hold on a second.
Men are starting to understand women are misled and men have been following each other.
Misled men, misled women.
Men are starting to correct now because why?
Because they're realizing that they want a high value woman and that's a mother, mother and a wife.
And women, some of you are actually finding out a high value man is actually the father and the protector and the provider of the house, right?
And so if this is happening, I'm not sure what you could possibly say would be good about just removing yourself from the participation of pointing and saying, maybe that's not good for you.
I'm just going to say like how you're saying how it's different for her to say it to like aunts and nieces and whatever.
Those are people that value that opinion.
She could say that to someone that she doesn't know and they're going to be like, okay, well, fuck you because you don't agree with me.
I can make that point because.
What are you talking about?
I can make that point because I'm the only one on here, right, that does all you do, OnlyFans.
Yeah, right.
We both do that.
But I mean, like, respectfully, whatever she says wouldn't matter to me.
Yeah, exactly.
It's not something you're doing.
And that was the first point that I was making as well.
I'm not going to tell you not to have your OnlyFans.
Right, it's just going to be that for myself.
Okay.
So it doesn't matter to you right now.
Therefore, anyone you say that to, it won't impact.
Are you kidding me?
I just feel like it's just carrying that burden of you feeling like you have to tell every girl you meet not to do OnlyFans or not to do sex work or not to do this with their body would be just a waste of your time.
Honestly, you can do other stuff better.
Jim Bob, final thought on this?
I'm just saying, I'm not saying you go out with this.
No, I know what you're trying to say.
know what you're trying to say.
I just feel like I agree with you.
I think I'll give you a point here is that you do want some relatedness to be able to say these things.
I agree with that.
But the hypothetical I'm pointing to isn't walking up to strangers and doing this.
Saying that if you have the opportunity to promote to promote this, or let's say the opposite of promoting only fans and promiscuity and all this, feminism basically on net balance is trash.
Like, will you call it out if you could?
And I think the answer is yes.
I'm not saying, I'm asking what could possibly be bad about fighting against lies.
I understand to young women.
I understand what you're saying.
And I actually do do that on my platform: I talk about how, like, you don't have to show your body to be empowered.
And I don't personally do any of like explicit or adult content or anything like that.
And I do say that on my platform because I know that a bunch of little girls watch my content.
A lot of young women watch my jiu-jitsu content, and I want to be a good example, but I don't necessarily, I don't make my entire platform about like crusading against OnlyFans.
I just lead by example about saying that that's not what I want to do.
And people often ask me, like, where's the link?
Where's the link?
And I'm like, that's not something that I ever want to do.
And I make sure to lead from the front by just not having one and saying that in my comment sections.
Like, I've never done adult content and I never intend on doing adult content.
And I don't believe that that's a good example.
But I'm not banging you down the doors if it only fans women.
Right.
Someone approached you.
And I'll let Brian move on after this.
I see you want to go on to the next thing.
What if someone DMs you and says, I'm doing this, should I do it?
I'd say no.
I'd say, please do everything else that you could possibly do first.
Absolutely.
Again, that's someone that would value her opinion.
Yeah, and how do you develop valuing someone's opinion, right?
By leading by example, too.
By leading by example, that's the biggest thing here.
So yeah, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it.
I'm just saying with your example, you would it would only matter if someone values your opinion.
With positive female expression or wherever you want to call it.
She said you can counter it just by not having one.
I'm just saying that like for women to actually promote wholesomeness, true femininity, right?
Motherhood.
We're oversaturated in the opposite.
And I don't know if you women understand this, that the ratio of the shit you see that is about liberation of women, versus the images you see of powerful mothers right, mothering their children, is just so desperate.
Desperate right now, and that's what I'm saying is that we need more of women demonstrating and showing motherhood.
But how do you do that without advocating to women to do that?
We can't just expect them to, just just, you know, not they.
In other words, they need to be pulled out of their feminist paradigm.
It needs to be completely demolished.
Okay, that's, that's my position.
Like you said um, society is built by people, by individuals.
So I think that the biggest, the biggest um difference you can make is you being the difference.
If you're the difference, you're already working towards.
Towards that yeah, all right uh, someone's sent in.
Oh no, he bought something on uh Shoptalk, whatever.com looks like he bought a uh, a hoodie.
Thank you so much ma'am, appreciate it.
Seven as Sev Zazer sorry, I don't know how to say your name you don't understand the difference in men and women.
You're going clubbing and marketing.
Marketing yourself would compare to your boyfriend going out and talking to other women, but not having sex with them.
You want to respond to that really quick?
Are they saying there's something wrong with my boyfriend like going and talking to other girls?
I'm confused.
Well, like, if he's not.
Flirting, I guess.
Well, I'm not flirting with other guys, so that's not why she's going out.
She's not going out to market herself.
Well, I mean, there's a difference between how men and women operate.
So, for example, women aren't like, for example, a guy goes to a bar or club, he might approach 10 different women that night and shoot his shot with 10 different women.
Women don't go out to bars and clubs and shoot their shot.
If they are interested in meeting a guy, they'll just go to the bar and club and they'll typically just put themselves in a position to be approached.
Now, I'm not, again, speaking in general, excuse me, generalities here.
Do some women approach guys?
Sure.
It's super rare.
Most women don't do it.
Most women don't have to do it because men just do it de facto.
But because of this differential, so once you get into a relationship, we all agree here that neither the man or the woman should be like approaching or sliding it into a DM.
We both agree that would be wrong for the woman to do, wrong for the man to do.
But this is the paradigm in which men flirt: they take the initiative, they approach, they send the DM, whatever it is.
But we don't really clamp down on women's means of getting men once they're in a relationship.
And so the way women sort of market themselves or advertise themselves is to go out to bars and clubs, put yourself in a position to be approached.
And then additionally, for example, if you're posting thirst traps on Instagram, a woman's not going to slide into a dude's DMs, but she's going to be posting thirst traps and then soliciting essentially men to DM her.
Personally, I don't go to the bars or the clubs to meet anybody because I've always been told by my grandpa and my father that those are horrible places to meet men.
The men you meet there are not going to be high-value men, typically.
Speaking in generalities, just to be clear, just for the sake of this conversation, because otherwise we're going to get in this trap of always going to you with your exception to the rule thing.
I'm specifically addressing her point about she wants to go to the club.
I get that there's women.
She's stated she's not marketing herself though.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter.
Okay, you don't understand.
If you're a woman and you go to the girls.
You're just worried about her being approached.
And it's okay.
If you're a woman and you go to the bar or club, you are putting yourself in a position to be approached.
I guess I view the world differently because I go to the store, I go anywhere, and I'm constantly approached.
So the solid system is crazy.
It's always me, me, me.
Like with you, you're not seeing the bigger picture here of it.
She can put herself in the same shoes.
It's the same thing.
It's literally most of you.
I guess.
Yeah, I agree, but the difference is, like, I don't think it's, first of all, I think the likelihood of a girl being approached.
Like, so just to be clear, every single time, y'all, every single time you guys go out to Trader Joe's, every time you get approached three times, honestly, yes.
Yes, absolutely.
I was just out.
I'm not even kidding.
I'm not kidding.
I could post up.
I could post up.
You guys aren't patching up.
Yeah, I could post up.
That's crazy.
I could post up at a Trader Joe's.
I could post up at a Trader Joe's, and maybe I might see some people saying something here or there.
But most people, whether you're a man or woman, you go, you do your shopping.
Have you been a woman in Los Angeles at all?
I have eyeballs and I can see what's happening.
Have you been a woman in Los Angeles?
Have you been in a big city?
I mean, even in small cities, I get approached constantly.
So I would think many women get approached constantly as well.
It's not just me.
So to be clear, you're prepared to make the statement.
Every single time you go out to do grocery shopping, three guys in that grocery store approach you?
Really?
I wouldn't say every single time, but off the, not even just in the grocery store on the way, I can be in my car and it's the most annoying thing in the whole world because in the car, men will stare at women, literally.
Oh, wow.
Okay, that's wow.
Great shifting the goalpost there.
So it went from.
Well, you want me to not be me.
So I'm like, I'm just, I'm literally just, it can't be about me, right?
So I don't know.
I've been shocked.
They literally made it about you, about how you get stared at when, I'm sorry, being stared at.
Have you ever, maybe they just look in your direction?
The hollering, it starts with the staring, and then they start, if you even, God forbid, look their way, they'll start to instigate something and watch it.
Look, I'll make it super simple.
Nobody is disputing that women get approached at the grocery store.
That's not in dispute.
However, if I were to compare, if you were a betting woman and you had to bet your life savings on what's a greater likelihood, is a woman more likely to go get finger banged at Trader Joe's or on the patio of some fucking nightclub?
Because trust me, I've seen women getting finger banged.
You just said the word finger banged.
That's the fucking word I'm using.
These chicks be getting fucking finger banged at the club and shit.
They're going to party.
They're fucking dudes like in the bathroom at the fucking house.
That's real.
That's real.
It happens.
Wait, gee, see?
No.
Just because girls are doing it doesn't mean I'm doing it.
What the hell?
I know, I know.
It's the same dinner.
It feels crazy.
I know, but I guess it's all about intention too.
I guess when I said I'm going out, you guys think that I'm like going to the club?
Like, I'm barely 18.
Like, there's like one.
I have college parties, right?
College parties are worse.
I'm at a community college.
Wait, I don't think that college will always be worse.
College parties are worse than that.
So I am at a community college.
So I will say like people at community colleges are not as eager to make friends.
So there's not as many parties.
So, but I will say, like when I say going out, I guess I could mean like my two best friends had a birthday the other day.
It was just our closest friends there.
And that's going on.
I wasn't looking for anyone.
I was just, I was with my friends out.
Yeah, I think like a dinner with your girlfriends, I don't think that's a big deal.
That's not what I was talking about.
It wasn't a dinner.
It was not a dinner.
Where did you, when you said, okay, were your friends drinking?
Yeah, my friends were drinking.
Okay.
Was it a party?
Yeah, it was their birthday party.
Hold on, just to be clear.
When you say birthday party, so you went, did you go out to a restaurant?
No, no, no.
It was at my friend's house.
They're twins.
That's why I'm saying that.
But so were they throwing a party?
Yeah, it was a party, but it wasn't like a ton of people I didn't know.
It was like all my friends.
I want to say there was like 40 because it was like, they have an older sister and her friends were there.
Friends party.
Right.
No, I get that, but I'm not going there looking for anyone.
I'm just having a good time with my friends.
We have a question for you.
So the only thing you've ever done with a guy is kiss them?
Yeah.
Like make out?
Yeah.
Like with tongue?
Yeah.
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Glocktavia's, what the hell?
Wow.
Someone rap on the beatbox thing.
Wow.
Thank you.
That was really good money.
You got $100.
I know.
You paid $100.
All right.
We have a bunch of chats coming in.
We have Lucas.
One sec.
Lucas again.
Not Lucas.
I'm wearing money lucid.
Again, why the hell would a high-caliber affluent man financial entangle and jeopardize half his wealth to marry you if you're not willing to have kids?
What do you offer that a friends with benefits doesn't?
And he goes on to continue just a moment before I have you give your response.
He says, if anything, given that you're both depreciating assets, a friends with benefits can be swapped out for a younger and newer model once fully emortized and depreciated.
Okay.
Some financial terms there.
Thank you, Lucas.
Lucas is boring.
Lucas spent $300 tonight.
So nasty.
Quick response to Lucas, if you'd like.
Lucas, are you going to trade out your wife for a younger woman when she gets too old for you?
Right.
Leonardo DiCaprio.
Dude, he's dating someone that's like an 06.
Isn't that crazy?
No one over 20.
What do you mean?
Leonardo.
Oh, no, they just said Leonardo DiCaprio.
No, he's dating someone that's in 06, and I'm in 06, and he could totally be my dad.
Like that's just crazy.
Wait, why is that crazy?
Because that's so creepy.
That's like how what's her name?
Bonnie Blue is like, oh, I want like barely legals.
That's so creepy.
That's like boring.
I mean, Bonnie Blue is a little different because she's like trying to, she's like, doing shock value.
No, but I just think that like old people going after young people.
I think high value men are also not ran through.
Isn't her first career where she's supposed to go?
Absolutely.
Leonardo is supposed to go for an old bag that has a, how many sex partners?
I don't know.
I feel like if he was a value, he'd have kids right now.
I wouldn't want to be with him.
No, I'm just saying, you're just saying creepy doesn't really do anything because you're high value, you would probably have kids by the time you're 52.
Hold on a second.
High value for a woman is fertility.
That's the only value of women.
Is that what I'm clarifying?
High value would include fertility.
And for men to look at women, the ones who are fertile will be younger.
And you're just saying it's creepy.
And yet at the same time, what makes Leonardo high value?
Leonardo.
What?
Because he has money?
Like, is that his only value?
Like, I'm so confused.
I don't know.
He's pretty talented.
Who's value?
I mean, yeah, he's talented, but I mean, I wouldn't mess with their sales.
I also agree that you shouldn't be ran through as a man.
You should want.
If you're looking to settle down, that's what you're also looking to do.
He's not looking to settle down.
He's made that clear.
He's just going through, going through.
I agree with that.
I think he's actually correct.
But we're not talking about whether or not he wants to settle down.
We're talking about what is it that men are coded, basically programmed to look at for the first and foremost thing that we're looking at from a female.
It's to procreate with them.
And to procreate with them, they need to be fertile.
So younger women, 20, whatever, you finding it creepy that a 50-year-old is pursuing a 20-year-old.
Well, let's change the situation.
Let's say Leonardo DiCaprio had an epiphany.
He said, oh my God, I've wasted my whole life.
I need to be a father.
I want to be a father.
I moved to be a father.
And he meets a young woman who's willing to be a mother.
Is it still creepy?
If he wants to have children, I don't think that he would necessarily want to have children with an 18-year-old.
He probably be looking for someone a little bit older.
I said, if it's the case, I did answer your hypothetical.
DiCaprio.
No.
Leonardo DiCaprio.
I didn't ask what you think Leonardo DiCaprio is thinking.
I'm saying...
Then he might not find a high-value woman.
Let me finish.
Let me finish.
If he says, I want to be a father now, I've wasted all my years.
I've made horrors of all of these women.
I want a family.
And he meets a woman who's 20 and she wants to be a mother.
Is it still creepy if that's the context?
No.
I was saying it was creepy that he was dating an 18-year-old and he does not want to settle down.
That's what I was saying.
You're making the hypothetical and like making me answer completely different questions.
Interesting.
Not what I was saying.
That's totally fine.
But here's the thing.
If it's only creepy because of the intentions, how is it not creepy for people to just bang each other with no intention to settle down?
Why are you asking me that?
I never said that wasn't creepy.
That's your standard.
No, I know, but any, like, no, but that's your standard.
Don't you have, I mean, you lead a little bit liberal, don't you?
Insofar as women.
When did she say that?
No.
When did she say that?
I could be wrong.
That's hard.
Never once said I'm liberal or lean that way.
And all of the views she's expressed have been relatively conservative.
Yeah, they have to say that.
They actually really have.
Yeah, they're good.
I mean, I've seen from what I've said.
And I was wondering if she's liberation above something else here.
Wait, what do you mean?
Sorry, I'm refusing.
Do you value female liberation?
Like, for instance, I'll ask you a harder hypothetical.
Is it more valuable to you that women are fully liberated in their rights and expression than to be constrained by societal pressures to be mothers?
I guess it depends on what their end goal is.
If someone wants to be a mother, that's probably liberating to them.
I mean, I want to be a mom eventually.
I don't want to be a mom now, but I think it'd be very liberating for me to eventually be a mom.
But if someone doesn't want to have kids, it's probably very liberating to not have kids and do stuff that makes her happy.
Right.
So happiness, what the woman wants to make her happy above any sort of obligations for society.
Wouldn't you want to be happy?
Wait, anxiety.
Like any coding.
I don't care if she holds traditional positions or is partial to understanding traditional positions.
So happiness equals feminists, is what you're saying.
If it's the case that you're a female and you value your own freedom and liberation to be happy and you want, you think first and foremost that women should be happy, right?
Which is totally arbitrary, by the way.
Over to make his woman happy.
Is your wife happy?
Do you want your wife to be happy?
Yeah, do you?
No, I'm asking you a question.
I'm asking you a question.
Do you want your wife to be happy?
This is why women can't think rationally.
I'm answering her question.
Why can't you answer my question?
You're still doing it.
I heard five questions.
If you want your wife to be happy, do you want your wife to be happy?
My wife's happiness doesn't trump her obligation to be a mother.
Wow.
I mean, she's a mother now.
I mean, yeah, I understand what you're saying.
You know, she's not being a mother, but if that's just an insane statement to say that you do not care about your wife's happiness.
If your obligations trump your wants and desires to be happy, you go all silent, right?
It depends on what your obligation is.
Yeah, why to society?
If you were a mother and you did something that didn't provide happiness to you, but it actually served the purpose of being a good mother to your children, would you still do it?
I think if you want to be a mother, taking care of your kids makes you happy.
Even if there's hard moments.
I mean, I'm sure that there's always hard moments and being assuming it.
Like, again, what about the people who don't want to be mothers and the people who have agreed that they also don't want kids?
Like, a husband can also not want kids.
You're only going off of that dynamic where it's like the man and the woman have to have children.
It's so caveman.
It's caveman to want to have children.
Do you know that we're running into that?
It's caveman to like presume that it's the only thing in this world that needs to happen and that we're society.
They're just more than children.
Let me just reframe what this lady just said.
Like the main thing that needs to happen for society to exist is procreation.
That's so caveman.
That's not what she said.
She was just saying that life shouldn't only matter.
That's not very feminist of you.
You need to talk for her.
I don't mind that.
I already heard what she's saying for another woman.
But I am Jim Bob.
I would just also argue that you said that your wife's happiness does not supersede her obligations as a mother.
She's chosen to be a mother, so she's then chosen to prioritize her family first and foremost.
Some people have not chosen to be mothers and are still prioritizing that.
And if you have not yet chosen to be a mother or never will, then it's not, it doesn't quite get in the same vein to prioritize being a mother if you never want to be a mother.
It's not.
You're just not that it's not agreeing with you.
That's not irrelevant to what you're saying.
It's not irrelevant.
Exactly.
Exactly.
All she said is: some women don't want to be mothers, right?
So they don't want to do that.
That's her preference, right?
I'm saying, once you're a mother, once you're a mother, isn't it the case that you're going to prioritize your obligation to be a mother over your temporary preferences and standard for happiness?
Yes, and that's why you should wait until you're ready to be a mother in order to become a mother.
Be next topic.
Right.
Clock that.
Brian, people in whatever chat are saying my audio is low.
I just boosted it.
Wait, stop the talking as we can't hear it.
I just boosted it, so hopefully that helps a little bit.
Here, I'm going to let some of these chats come through, but I do want to come back to something in just a bit.
But we have Lucas again.
For whoever you are.
Stop, stop, stop.
For whomever in the chat claiming that I'm a womanizer, well, I'm not.
Maybe 20 years ago, now I'm married, as you saw in the super chat, chair seven.
You are correct.
I agree.
For that matter, I hold myself where he says continued.
These came in about 30 minutes ago or so.
I'm called to a rigidly higher duty of virtue, competence, and integrity as a husband, as a fellow Orthodox Christian, a cradle one at that.
I suspect both Jim Bob and Andrew fully appreciate that standard.
All right, Lucas, thank you for that.
And then there's a couple of super chats I need to let through here.
We have one from Lucas.
Well, if nothing else, the young men watching this are getting real-time tutorial of the type of women not to start a family with.
Oh shit, shots fired.
Really, a leader doesn't issue orders.
Rather, you have incessant nagging conversations with him.
Try telling George Patton that.
That's a good question.
I'm really curious what he does for his work.
I think he's an attorney.
I think he's about selling so forth.
I'm pretty sure he's an attorney, right?
In New York City, I think.
Zulu Niner says, if you should be expected to submit and dedicate themselves as a woman, then that should be an expectation for a man, too, in my opinion.
So if a man is in the mental concept of you can be replaced, then how are you any better?
I know that's right, Zulu.
Yep, I agree with that.
And again, I don't think men don't submit.
High volume men are not ran through as well.
No, you can't have two leaders in a relationship.
I don't think that's what the person was saying.
I think they were talking about the mental concept of being replaced for something better.
I don't think they were talking about submission.
I think it was like that specific aspect of the sentence.
Sure.
Yeah.
About like submission.
I mean, people and partners, it's interchangeable, replaceable.
Yeah, when you marry, you become one.
So when you become one, that means you are the leader together for the family, for your relationship.
No, you're not the leader to get no, you're not the leader together.
Yes, yes.
When you marry, no, no, you're not both equal leaders.
That's not even true legally.
You can't have 50% of ownership or direction over anything.
From a Christian perspective, which you were sort of LARPing as before, Redshirt, you were like, oh, you get married and God, my thing is to God.
Well, no, we're both to be submissive to God.
But if you're talking about Christianity, it's hierarchical and patriarchal.
That means there's a high priest called Jesus Christ.
And beneath that, there are men, right?
And so men actually lead the family.
The man is the head of the family, and the woman is the neck.
They work together, but they're not equal partners, okay?
They're not equal leaders.
No, Billy Bob shut it down.
But like, without a neck, there's no head, right?
No.
Right.
So it's again.
Exactly.
There's not one without the other, just because, like, if a man's a leader, there has to be someone to lead, right?
Yeah, but they have to follow.
Right.
Do women have to follow and they also have input.
Do women follow?
Yes or no?
Yes, no, men don't follow women.
If a man wants a woman that's a leader, that certainly is like a cusso thing.
Keep that energy.
Keep that energy.
You better initiate.
You better go 50-50 on the first dates.
Don't expect him to protect you.
Don't expect him to protect you.
Don't expect him to make decisions.
Oh, what do you want to eat?
Whatever you want.
If you want a man who's going to be a leader, you've got to be a follower.
Otherwise, go deal with the soy boys.
Right.
But you can't be demanding a man be a leader and holding to his traditional gender roles.
And you're a modern woman.
I don't think anybody's saying that.
Or at least.
Yeah.
Nobody's saying that at all.
But okay, here, let me think of an example here.
What's a good one?
Oh, okay.
You're dating.
Do you want to have a career?
What's your yeah?
I don't really know what I want to do right now.
I'm just focused on soccer, but honestly, I would be okay with being a stay-at-home mom.
I'm not going to lie.
Same.
That's the truth.
I would love to stay at home and take care of my kids and cook and clean.
I like cleaning.
That's only a big baker.
I think that I wouldn't mind having a career either.
I don't really know what I want.
I am 18.
What if you were, but so yeah, you're young, so you're still kind of figuring out what your potential interest could be.
You're still, you know, working your way through school, whatnot, so you're not exactly dead set on that.
But you do, you do say you could see yourself, oh, it's hard because you said, I'd like to be a stay-at-home mom.
So there are women.
This example I would give would be.
Yeah, they would be like, oh, I don't want to be a stay-at-home mom.
Not even, well, not necessarily, but there are women who would say, for example, I want to prioritize a career and my career, you know, whatever.
Perhaps it's a creative field or something.
I really want to keep working.
And I ask, well, let's say you met a guy who could support you and you didn't have to work, but he was like, his standard was, in order for you to be with me, I want you to stop working and I'm going to take care of everything.
There are women who will say, nah, I'm going to keep working.
Well, yeah, because some people enjoy working.
And so it's like, if you know, if that's what they value over the being a stay-at-home mom, that's what they value.
And again, it all comes down to preference.
Yeah, and sure, but that wouldn't be submissive.
That wouldn't be following his lead.
I guess I don't understand what you're saying.
Following a lead would mean that if you had a preference, if you had a proclivity toward like going out or doing this or that, and you were in a relationship or let's say you were married, let's add children, being that you want to have children.
I love that.
What Brian is saying is that following the leader might include abandoning some preferences.
So that's why we asked you early on, Chair Seven, or what's your name?
My name's Mac or McKinley, whichever's easier.
Early on, we got into, well, what's the threshold where you start to abandon your preferences?
If you think that you want to have children, I would ask you, how many could you see yourself having?
I don't know why.
I've always just thought about having three kids, but then sometimes I'll go back and be like, actually, I don't know if I want to have any.
But that's not because I don't want to have kids.
That's more because of like I'm scared to have kids, like just with like how society is.
But I do want to have kids, and if I did, I'd want three.
Okay, cool.
Well, let's follow your preference happiness standard for a second.
Okay.
Would you do you think you'd be happier as a mother with more energy or less?
What do you mean?
Like just in general?
More energy, basically.
Well, no, I probably wouldn't have as much energy.
But I'm a pretty high-energy person, so.
Well, the question is about: would you rather have more energy as a mother of three or less?
More energy.
Okay.
If you think you want to have three children and you want to have more energy than less, wouldn't it follow that you might prioritize having children earlier than later?
Yeah.
Doesn't mean she has to do it.
I'm 18, so I don't want to repeat it right now.
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
I want to say something right now are more important than the long-term choice of having children and filling out the vision of your life that you say you want here on this podcast right now.
Yeah, before I want to build a family and a relationship, I want to make sure I'm happy with my life because I don't think it would be good.
No, I don't think it would be good for me to have kids if I was unhappy.
I don't think I would be a good mother.
So I want to be content with.
No, hold on.
Hold on.
No, you hold on.
I'm answering your question.
What if?
What if your determination of what makes you happy is given by a standard without children and your standard for happiness?
I don't even think it's just about being happy.
It's about being ready.
Hold on, pink shirt.
What if your standard that you're using is completely closed to just being single right now?
And so your evaluation of what makes you happy could fundamentally change.
I certainly, and maybe people in the chat, or maybe anyone else who's had children, when you hold your child for the first time, I promise you, the things you think are your preferences and the things you thought made you happy, I'm telling you, if not fully fade away, partially fade away.
And that's why I asked the question: it seems like, to be fair, do you admit that you're judging your standard for happiness from a pre-child position?
And you couldn't possibly imagine judging happiness from a post-child position.
Do you think I would be more happy right now if I had a child?
I live at home and I am a hostess.
Do you think I would be more happy?
That's a genuine question.
Do I think you'd be happier with a child?
Well, if you had a child, you would be with a man who you thought was going to be a good husband, right?
You'd be married.
Well, that wasn't my question.
I was asking about if I had a child.
Well, no, your question's loaded with, I wouldn't advocate for you just having a child.
I would advocate for you, first of all, being married to the church and that the person you're married with is sufficient to have children with.
I'm not saying that's easy to just snap your fingers, okay?
Just don't get me wrong.
I don't think at 18 you could just do this.
I'm not saying most people, like, you're like, let's use an example.
Sure.
I'm talking to her for a second.
Can you maybe not make an about you for a split second?
Matt, if you did have a child from your own standard, wouldn't you have already married the person from your own moral dynamics?
No, I totally would already be married.
That's what I'm saying.
Okay, so if you're already married and you have children, you found the man of your dreams, you have settled down.
What I'm pointing to is just an invitation for you, Mac, is to understand that maybe the thing that you think is readiness now is judging from a standard that you only have access to now.
And the standard for happiness and fulfillment fundamentally changes after you find that man and after you have the children.
That's all I'm asking you to consider.
No, I think maybe if I was with someone that I see myself getting married to and being a great father, I would maybe be more open to having kids.
I still think I'd want to be a little bit older than I am now.
I'd probably want to beat teen pregnancy.
And I'd want to, you know, do things that I enjoy first.
Like I'd want to, I love playing soccer.
Like I could not imagine not playing soccer.
And so I wouldn't want to give that up to be a mom right now.
I think in the future, you know, eventually I'm not always going to want to play soccer.
I'm not always going to want to be in school.
I'm not always going to want to go out.
But when I'm ready, I'm going to be open to give all that up to have a kid.
But I also think that you could say that readiness to anything.
Like you never know what you're ready for until you're doing it.
That could apply to anything, not just kids.
Correct.
That's why I don't really use it.
Myself didn't think I was ready to have a child.
And it turns out I was.
Yeah.
I thought 100% not, though.
I like fully, if you heard me speak as a person, you'd be like, don't have kids, dude.
Well, I'm glad that I'm glad that you had kids.
I'm glad that it was something that makes you happy.
How many kids do you have?
Three.
Three.
Are they older, younger?
You said you've been with your wife for 10 years, 20?
They're younger.
Oh, how was it back-to-back?
Yeah, every two years, which is pretty ideal.
I think, do you feel like you did it better like that with having your kids two years apart?
Do you feel like that was more better for what you wanted to work out for you guys?
After one, were you like, oh, yeah, we're going to have more?
Did it kind of break your skills?
I still want more.
Yeah.
How old's your youngest right now?
Three.
Oh, so barely.
Okay, so see, you're right there.
Of course, we want another one.
That's why you're on that time growing it.
I think everyone should just go for it, right?
I think people were healthier when women were having children earlier.
I do understand modernity and the kind of culture we're living in now.
Maybe it's not, it doesn't occur as workable.
It's harder maybe to do it.
It's harder to live a traditional lifestyle.
It's harder to live a Christian lifestyle.
But the thing is, like, there's no alternative.
You know, the only alternative for women, and this is where I kind of feel bad for women, is that you guys really do waste the most important maybe 10, 15 years of your life, which is ultimately going to be the cornerstone and the bedrock, the foundation of the rest of your life, your legacy, which is your children and your family.
Ultimately, and so you're in a harder position in a way.
Men are in a harder position because we need our brute force.
We need to protect you.
We're called to die sometimes for it.
You're called to be motherhoods, but you do have a timeframe that men don't have.
And I feel like women have been in sort of denial about it.
And now they're starting to sort of like face the facts where they're like, well, maybe feminism sold us a bunch of shit where I can own a Mustang in the pink fucking blender and I have a dog, but ultimately you wake up at 42 with wine-stained teeth alone, hoping to be invited to a wedding so you can talk to a fucking groomsman.
I will say, wait, actually, pause.
I don't think I'm wasting my time.
I don't necessarily know if it's always wasting my time because, like, I mean, personally, I view myself as a high-value woman.
So I'm like, I don't think I've met any high-value guys that I would want to have kids with.
So I don't know if I'm wasting my time.
I just think that I'm just not jumping the gun.
Yeah, I was going to say, in order for us to settle down, you know, maybe you guys, the men also waste their 10-15 years partying around, you know, sleeping around.
That's totally valid.
I have like a strong will.
I will not date anyone in their 20s because I know that men usually are in a stage of their life when they're trying to figure themselves out, when they're partying, when they're not ready to be loyal.
So maybe we are ready when we're like 19 or 20, but the men available aren't statistically true until he has a career.
Until he has a career.
Like, how do you know that?
You can't expect us to settle down with like the first guy we meet, but this guy still lives in the world.
I'm not expecting that.
I think the bigger problem is that I think children need to work earlier.
I think everyone needs to work earlier and grow up faster.
We're in this like elongated state of neotany.
Neotany is like basically this frozen state of childhood.
And I think modernity and technology, I don't have a blame on this.
It's just that it's allowed us so much just resting room to not do anything because we can eat, we can order Amazon Prime wings delivered with a fucking drone.
We're not pressured to develop.
Right, very much.
We have to force our own development, right?
And now, this is why I'm so stern on this: you have to activate your own development.
You have to actually take part in it.
You can't just sit and wait and be like, well, I'm going to see what happens.
Maybe if I find the right guy, maybe I, you have to like figure it out.
Like, and women have a shorter time to figure it out, you know?
And so this is why I stress it.
This is like a, I might be harsh, but harsh, but this is like, I'm trying to reach people.
And men are a part of this.
You know, they really are a part of it.
Young men who just want to get laid and stuff, they're leaders, right?
And so they're leading women to value giving their body away.
Well, if they're leaders, they're not doing a great job because, you know, like you said, if a man is the head of a household, you know, they're supposed to lead.
Where are these leaders?
These leaders are being driven by lust.
They are being driven by their fleshly desires.
They're not prepared to be a father figure.
They're not prepared to be a leader.
But if they are, hold on.
If they are, are the women prepared to follow?
I like personally, yes.
Oh, you guys are like, no, I just want to do, I just want to go to Tuscany.
Let me go to Tuscany.
You're like, I want to write a book.
I always wanted to release poems.
I got all these fucking, I just got a ukulele.
I just bought one.
You know, I want to do a YouTube channel.
And the men who actually figure this out earlier, and there are more and more younger men, by the way, figuring this out.
It's still low percent where it needs to be, but they are going, oh, shit, I need to find the woman, and I need to make her a mother.
And I'm going to be the man of the family.
And they look out into the fucking vast sea of destruction.
And they just see chicks just mouthing off.
I'm a cat.
I don't need a man.
They're all drunk on the street.
Fucking generation.
I'd also like to say that.
No, I feel like that matters a lot about where you're living too.
I don't know.
Maybe that's just my opinion.
I feel like if you're in a city, you're probably, you know, those two people are going to have a hard time finding each other because there is a lot of people that are just bullshitting around.
But I don't know if you're.
Where do you find them?
Yep.
Mac.
Maybe if you're in like a more traditional city, like a little cute little countryside.
I got to move it on, guys.
I got to move it on.
Okay.
Okay.
Let me get this pulled up.
Okay.
No, it's one, two, three, four, five, six.
Okay, shots fired.
That's so mean.
All right, Zulu Niner.
Where does the separation end up?
Where does the separation of?
Thank you.
Where does the separation of church and state come into place?
My religion doesn't believe what you do.
My wife is a partner to me and an equal to me in decisions.
If she wants, I flex.
If I want, she flexes.
That is equality.
Well, Zulu, what is your religion?
That would be helpful to know what it is.
But Jim Bob is an Orthodox Christian, so he could obviously explain this better than I could, but my understanding is Christianity is patriarchal and the man is the leader of the household in a Christian biblical marriage.
But anyways, here, I actually wanted to get to a couple things here really quick.
Are you guys high, you two?
No.
Well, not at all.
Like earlier, yeah.
No.
I was just like, yeah, we were when we got here, yes.
And then earlier.
It's wearing off, but yeah, now it's wearing off.
But it's just more like, I don't know, we're kind of really listening to what you guys are saying 100%.
What's his name?
Jilly Bob?
It's Billy Bob.
What is it?
Jimmy Bob.
Jimmy Bob.
Okay.
Jim Bob.
He referred to me as Red Shirt.
My name is Ruby.
Okay.
Right.
And I'm Carly.
Yeah.
Okay.
Ruby shirt.
Not Ruby.
She looks like a Ruby.
I'm kidding.
Ruby.
I'm kidding.
All right.
Thanks.
Billy Bob.
I mean, what's Jim Bob?
It's Jim Bob.
Jim Bob.
I'm sorry.
Are you also under the influence?
I see you.
Oh, yeah, yeah, of one beer.
That's been a bit.
Yeah, right.
No, In the last three hours, you're telling me you had one, you were sipping one beer.
I was sitting.
Oh, one.
I got this like 10 minutes ago.
I wasn't sipping.
I was sipping this.
This is water.
Fuck.
Fully exposed.
All right.
I wish I started earlier, though.
I guess I'm not on the handle tonight.
All right, Gage, thank you for the membership.
So, going to you, Mac, I had a question for you.
So, just I want to touch on the age gap thing really quick because we can kind of shift off of it.
We were talking about Leonardo DiCaprio.
You said it was creepy.
Why is it creepy?
Because he's 52, and every time his girlfriends get a little bit older, he gets a new girlfriend who's even younger.
And to your guys' point, you guys were saying, you know, maybe something changed and he wanted to have kids.
But obviously, that's not what he's looking for.
He's just sleeping with young people.
And so I just think it's a little bit creepy, you know, at his.
Yeah, are age gaps in general creepy?
Depends.
So, like, how about a 30-year-old dating a 20-year-old?
That's not creepy to me.
No.
I think if you, if they're on the same like, if it's okay, so if it, if it is, I understand you know, a 30-year-old cannot like literally be the mother or father of a 10, like a 20-year-old.
Unless they had a money.
Someone can be like your parents.
That's kind of weird.
Right, that's weird.
But there is like 13, there's current to 15.
Yeah, so when it comes to the age gap thing, though, do you have the same energy for women who date younger men?
Yes.
And is it just as equally creepy?
Yes.
Okay.
So it's not, you don't have a double standard with it.
No.
Okay.
Why is it creepy, though?
You've stated more for women.
I think it's not this age, but why is it creepy?
Normally, when I feel like it's for women, it's normally like they need to feel young.
And so it's like, I just still think it's weird.
Like you're date someone your age, that's the same maturity level, especially as a woman.
Like, I don't know if you're a lot older and you're dating a guy that's a lot younger.
They're probably very immature.
Desperate.
And so it's just desperate.
Well, who's that woman who's well, it doesn't really matter.
What about men dating younger?
What's your diagnosis there?
I think it's kind of the same thing.
You want to be younger, but I also think it's just like a looks thing.
I think guys are attracted a lot.
Like, well, I guess women, it could be the same way.
I still do.
Do you think men care a lot about physical attractiveness?
Yes, absolutely.
When do you think?
So I know women have a different opinion on this, the male gaze, female gaze.
But as it pertains to the male gaze, do men find younger women more attractive?
Yeah.
And do men, do looks matter a lot to men?
I would say someone with like a healthy mentality first, but then eventually as the relationship progresses, again, if this man is like mentally like healthy, you know, looks matter only to an extent because if you're beautiful but nasty on the inside, women on the outside absolutely no difference.
But and I do think it's shallow of the man if he likes a woman that's beautiful despite of her being ugly.
You know, if he knows that she's like a nasty like woman inside but beautiful on the outside, I think that makes attraction has to come first.
So yeah, I do think that like both men and women be attracted to each other.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I agree.
So if you're like really good looking, but you're a piece of shit, okay, cool.
But like if you're good looking and you're a good person or you're like average looking and you're a good person or you're ugly and a good person, I'm pretty sure that guy who's good looking and he's a good person is going to out-compete the other men.
Yep.
Just like the woman who's a good person and attractive is going to probably out-compete like the average looking or ugly woman who's also a good person.
People care about looks.
We all agree that.
Yeah, but she's trying to rebut my argument as it relates to age gaps.
Yeah, you.
You're like presenting like a counter.
What did I say?
That was like.
Yeah, well, I don't know.
Then why did you?
It wasn't well, you're introducing, we're talking about age gaps, so are you just like dittoing?
You're just, I think, what it is is.
You asked me um, if I think it's because like, older men think that the younger girls are attractive.
You asked us that and then she was saying yeah, but she was also saying it.
She was just saying it's also challenging.
Yeah, personality matters.
But let's get back to the actual conversation.
Well, I think, with age gaps, like I tend to date guys like one of them I'm dating is 46.
The other one's in his 50s.
I'm 29, but when I was your age, I kind of might think that's a little weird, but now I just feel like that's like I'm so close to a child.
It's a little weird kind of, but at the same time, it's like you're an adult technically well yeah, but okay, I'm still.
I still have an adolescent mind.
That's true right, you can't even register, like I didn't turn 18, and all of a sudden, I'm like I'm an adult, I'm gonna act like.
I mean, you are legally yes, I am legally an adult, but your brain's not fully developed.
You're 25 yeah, but your brain is closer.
Your brain is closer to that of an adult than it is to a 10 year old.
Wait, I did not say that my brain changed.
You said you're.
You said your brain is adolescent.
Yeah sorry, what I meant is that I'm still gonna say more like, maybe more juvenile.
Yeah juvenile, that's a good word, I don't know.
I'm just saying that just because I turned 18 doesn't mean that all of a sudden yeah sure, you can still be immature at 18.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
You can still be immature at 30.
Yeah no, that's right.
That's just why I was saying it's probably a little bit more creepy because more people my age wait.
So if it's just, if the ick factor, the creep factor is just dating somebody who's immature, what's creepier than a 35 year old dating a 20 year old?
That wasn't the only creepy factor sure, but a 35 year old who's dating a 20 year old who's like remarkably mature and emotionally intelligent and all that stuff, versus a 40 year old who's super immature, which what's creepier?
I don't think there's anything creepy between the age gap you just described.
Okay, i'm pretty sure it's.
It's just case by case.
I think she thinks it's creepy.
So I think it's case by case and I think in a broad way, like you were saying in a blanket term, not an exception.
It's creepier, but if it's okay, here's a single exception.
They're really mature.
Maybe it's not as creepy in that exception like, but what's actually creepy about?
I think she's saying, if you're old enough to be my dad um yeah, so if it's a younger woman and she's like basically any other teenager, like still acting like a teenager, and he's 52, and you can actually let me finish okay finish, go ahead okay.
So if he's 52 and he acts like an adult and he acts like a 52 year old and he's going after someone that acts like a teenager and their lives are completely different, your priorities are different.
That is creepy.
This could be your daughter.
That is creepy, I agree, I agree.
What?
What is creepy about it?
Are you saying that it her age or no?
I'm saying, i'm saying the mindset, the age, all of it okay.
So what is the minimum age gap that you would say is acceptable?
Um, because you're look, it's really easy to like.
Do these sort of uh arguments where we're just okay, we're gonna pick, like a 70 year old dating like a girl Just turned 18.
I think it's much easier for you to forward your position on that.
But like, give me the minimum, like, uh, is 30 and 20.
Is that unacceptable?
No, I said earlier that that probably wouldn't be as unacceptable because I, but it's still no, no, it's no, it's acceptable.
That's acceptable.
Sure.
There you go.
Wait, wait, wait, what if you, Mac?
What if you're 18?
You said you have like, you know, like the mind of a child right now.
And mind of a teenager, that's what I mean.
Yeah.
So let's say you wait 10 years and you're and you're let's say you're 30 something, 35, and you didn't, you just didn't develop that much.
You're still sort of childish.
And a 50-year-old wants to potentially make you the mother of his children, his wife.
Is it still creepy if your development didn't actually go that far?
Maybe 2%, 3% in advance?
So I guess what I thought was creepy is that it's just someone that's barely legal.
You know, they don't have a lot of experience in life.
They're immature.
It's not necessarily the immaturity.
I mean, like, so say your daughter, do you have any daughters?
Fine, yes.
Okay, so say you have a daughter.
She's barely 18, right?
And you're, I guess say you're 52.
Say you're the same age as the person she's dating.
Is that you wouldn't think it would be creepy if she brought home your coworker, your friend?
No, no, not just on non-face value.
No.
Like, for instance, you would be okay with your 18 daughters or dating your friends.
Let me fucking answer.
Shut up for a second.
Whoa.
You better calm down.
Shut up.
You can't answer a question and bar.
Yeah, you guys, if you're going to ask him a question, you were doing it to me, like literally five.
Yeah, but I'm the host, so I have like a bit more leeway.
I have a bit more leeway to interrupt and stuff.
But look, if you guys are going to ask him a question, let him answer.
Go ahead.
So if the value, I'm going to judge the man by his values.
So if the man is in the church, I would only look at that from a view not from creepy, but from logistics of fatherhood.
That's the only way I would look at it.
If they had the value, that would be really the deal breaker.
If they shared my theology, if they were in my church, that would be a deal breaker.
The only argument I would have, it wouldn't be a creepy argument because that's really not an argument.
That's just an argument from incredulity.
That's just like saying icky, therefore wrong.
That's not an argument.
And so the only reason I would present to advocate away from it, if I did advocate away from it, would be practicality.
That is to say, it's not that it's creepy.
It might be the case that the 50-year-old man marrying the 18-year-old man may at some age not be able to fulfill his duties as a husband or a father in a shorter period of time.
And so it's ideal that they're closer in age, but it's not because it's creepy.
Does that make sense?
Okay, so you wouldn't be okay with your daughter 18 years old, right?
She brings home a guy your age at the time.
That's fine.
And you're just going to pin it off.
I mean, I'm.
I'm not a guy.
I just told you.
What do you have?
What do you have?
No, I understand.
I understand what you're saying.
I just literally told you the whole entire hypothetical.
Did you just not listen to that?
I understand your hypothetical.
I guess, yeah, I guess I understand.
I guess it would just have to be, I guess, creepy is just based on your opinion.
That's all it is.
I mean, like, I'm not saying that.
No, I'm not saying that just because something, I think something's creepy, it's wrong.
It might be right in someone else's situation.
I can just still think it's creepy.
Also, Jim Bob, what do you think about this argument?
So, for example, and it is an interesting argument, like, well, what would you prefer or want for your own daughter?
And it's like, I think a father could even say, well, yeah, I think I might even have like a slight preference towards a woman dating a man, you know, within a couple years of her.
Maybe he's like three, four years older.
But that doesn't necessarily, even if you have that preference, that doesn't mean that you're precluded from being okay with her dating somebody a bit older in the same way, for example, as this.
You might say it would be your preference or it would be more ideal for your daughter to date somebody who's a billionaire, but you would also be okay with her dating a millionaire or even a guy who makes $100,000 a year or even $70,000 a year, whatever it is.
So just because there could be a preference or leaning towards, yeah, I could see like, okay, if she finds a fantastic guy who's like a year older than her or the same age, that could be optimum in the sense of like, okay, like if there's a big age gap, here's one potential downfall.
He could maybe like pass away a little sooner than would otherwise be ideal.
But, you know, people can die at any point.
But does that track for you at all?
It makes sense.
It's just that it's interesting.
These hypotheticals always come down to like sort of like what you want to eat off a menu, essentially, reduced preferences.
And I'm pointing out to something larger, which is very important in all of these conversations: is that what is your worldview?
And for my view, an Orthodox Christian perspective is the filter through which I'm determining my answers to all of these things.
So without the worldview, without the worldview, all you have is just what I think off the menu.
And I'm saying that's not working anymore.
That didn't work for women in feminism.
That doesn't work for utilitarian progressives.
That doesn't work for atheists.
What I'm pointing to is that ultimately you need a paradigm and a worldview.
And honestly, in modernity today, everybody, a lot of people are just without it.
It's sad, but I'll play my own violin music even.
It's sad that people are judging their ethics from their own personal preferences, and that's ultimately all that's happening here.
I mean, it's toast.
Cooked.
Yep.
We have someone who bought a t-shirt.
Thank you, someone who bought a t-shirt.
Appreciate it.
Appreciate it.
We have a soup chat, too.
John Veliquette, all should seek God before made.
You're made in his image and likeness.
Where's your word before you speak it?
Well, Jesus Christ is the living word of the Father.
So Jesus Christ is the perfect expression of all who the Father is, and only He reveals the Father.
Yo, John, thank you so much for the soup chat, man.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right, guys, we're going to get into it.
I'm going to wait until she's back before I get into this, but hmm, where do we go?
Where do we go from?
You know what?
I'm going to do some of the pre-show notes before we get into that.
Can I give one hypothetical, Brian?
I want to ask the ladies something really kind of interesting.
Would you rather have really small, sharp teeth?
All of them are really small and sharp.
Even no eyebrows.
Oh, I have no eyebrows, teeth.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'd want better teeth.
You can draw, you could draw.
I was going to say, raise your hand, no eyebrows.
Oh.
Sharp teeth.
Okay, that's all, Brian.
Thank you.
Okay.
Perfect, perfect.
All right, we're going to get into some of the things here.
Sam?
Sam?
That's your name?
Sam's?
Sam's?
Sammy?
Okay.
You have a tattoo that I couldn't quite make out.
Curiosity.
Curiosity often leads to trouble.
Okay.
Are you constantly curious and getting I got that when I was like 17?
Okay.
So it's like curiosity kills a cat.
It's just there now.
Okay.
Here, we're gonna do let's do this.
Stiffler, ask everyone to write their own looks on a scale of one to ten.
You can't pick seven.
Starting with you, go ahead, write your own looks.
Your mic needs to be tilted down.
Can I be skipped because I'm like chewing?
Just answer the question.
It's just a one word.
I'm sorry.
They said I can't pick seven.
Wait, can you just tilt your mic down?
Okay.
If I could pick seven, I would pick seven.
but since I can't pick seven, I'm going to say eight.
Okay.
Who doesn't want to say ten?
I don't know.
You can say 10.
Yeah, 10.
I would say like an 8.75.
8.75?
Okay.
12.
That is.
That's awful.
She said she broke the scale.
That's what she said.
So 10?
And a half, yeah.
10 and a half.
9, 9.5.
Okay.
I think looks are in the eye of the beholder, but I would say, like, if I can't say 7, I'm going to say 6.
Oh.
Okay.
I think you're a 10.
Oh, thank you.
Eight.
Eight?
Six.
I give myself a five.
Jim Bob, what about you?
6.7.
6.7.
Okay, so let's explore.
We have a 10, a 10.
I'm just going to give you 10 because not, well, because you gave yourself 12.
And 9.5.
Yes.
9.5.
Okay.
He's all sick.
He's all 10.
I am more excited.
We were at a 10.
He said, what the?
There's someone for everyone.
So I guess why?
What makes you guys 10s, I guess?
I think I look good.
Do either of you have any plastic surgery?
What do you have?
I have a BBL.
BBL?
Any fillers or anything like that?
Lip fillers.
Lip fillers.
What about you?
Any plastic surgery?
Yeah, I have a BBL.
I did my boobs.
I did lipo all over.
Lipo?
Okay.
I have lipole over.
I have my boobs.
I have my butt, and I have my lips.
Okay.
And just to be clear, were you a 10 before the work?
Nah, nah.
Okay.
So what were you before the work?
Oh, seven.
Seven.
about you?
Were you a...
I've been a thick seven forever.
Thick, seven forever.
Okay.
You know?
I would say like, yeah, like a six, seven.
six seven but now that you but once you do it like you just feel like your ego just get boosted low-key Like the confidence.
It is.
Because a lot of people are like, oh, why would you want to do that?
Why would you want to do that?
Like, I want to do it for myself because I wanted to feel better.
I felt doing that for myself would make me feel better.
So I said a 12, I think I looked like a 12.
Does it make you feel, I'm sorry.
I was just going to say, does it make you feel better in your eyes or like for a man?
Because I feel like most women would get their.
I don't know.
I've been single for five years and I've had work done for five years, so it don't really.
Oh, yeah.
And question, does your answer change if it goes from what you rate yourself to how men, how you think men would rate you?
Do you think they would rate you 10?
Yeah, okay.
I would hope they rate me like a nine, a cool nine.
Yeah, so just to be clear, I'll kind of clarify the question a little bit.
So I think you rate the same.
So I think that there are men out there who would rate, like, you look at any woman, there's maybe a singular guy out there who would give them a 10, right?
I'm saying if you had a thousand men in a room, a thousand men in a room, looking at the average, the general, a thousand men, what would be the average rating they give you?
A thousand men to the average rating?
Yeah, so I think that's 10.
In person, I honestly still would say a 10.
I do.
Still 10?
Okay.
No, I would say 8.
8, okay.
And in person.
I think I would get a 7 just because I feel like my type, me in general, I'm not everyone's type.
Like half those men could be like, hell no.
And the other half of the men could be like, oh, yeah, she's perfect.
You know what I mean?
Like, this is my type.
What about you?
I hope that I say a 9, but I feel like if they got to know my age, the rate will drop.
I do expect you to be 30.
I think you would have to go 30.
No, because people like Jim Bob.
Jimbo.
Obviously, they will.
Oh, like being for the child.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
So that thinks right.
Wait, you're saying her rating would go.
She looks harder.
I think it would, because I think she's just like, wow, she looks so beautiful.
Yeah.
And she's even older than I. When she said her age, it shocked me.
Yeah.
I mean, you can still be attractive.
No, yeah, I completely agree.
I just think that I wouldn't say that.
I think she's ages.
I'd be like, damn, that's even crazier.
Yeah.
But I mean, I think.
Out of a thousand men.
I think if you live older.
I mean, look, people glow up differently or whatever, but if you were next to your 20-year-old self, probably a lot of guys are picking up.
I look so uncomfortable.
I mean, unless you were like obese or something.
Can I just demonstrate how meaningless this is?
What's the chair?
One, two, three, or is someone missing?
Is someone missing?
In between.
Okay.
Three, after the pink shirt.
You said you were a 10.
I didn't say that.
I said 8.7.
Oh, what did you say?
Oh, oh, sorry.
I'm sorry.
Because I was going to take someone who said they were a 10.
Did the next girl say she was a 10 with the buttlips?
Yeah.
So, can you name someone who's like super famous that's a 10?
Can I name someone?
Like a woman.
Yeah, a woman who's super famous who's a 10 in your eyes.
Oh, woman who like I look up to, or because I don't really just name someone that you think is a 10.
Oh, someone who I think is hot.
Any actress?
Actress.
Or singer?
I don't know.
I'm not really good with like, I could show you a picture.
Do you know what you like?
Megan Fox is?
You know, a lot of people use it.
Boy, and half away.
What about Katie Sweetie?
Who?
Sweetie.
I don't know.
Oh, what's her name?
Justin Bieber.
Haley Bieber is super pretty.
Oh, Haley Marie.
You know how I like it?
You guys know who Emily Morico is on Time.
What did you say?
Yeah, I do know who that is.
What do you say?
I love Emily.
I can't do her.
That's not a good standard because they just have like 300-pound models now.
But this is why I asked, I wanted a reference because if you brought up a picture of the person you referred to, some sort of Victoria's secret model, let's say the era was 90s, not now.
You're basically saying you're equivalent to them on the scale of hotness, right?
In my own head, yeah.
In your own head.
Well, at least you admit it's in your own head.
You know it's not much.
It's only older.
What would you rate yourself?
I would rate myself.
I think I'm a 10.
I think I'm a 12.
You know what I mean?
And in other people's eyes, like I said to you, to someone else again, with like the thousand people to someone else, they could be like, oh, she is not my cup of tea.
Oh, she's too much.
Oh, she's this.
Oh, she's that.
Oh, she, you know what I mean?
But I think I'm a solid 12.
Jim Bob, why did you rate yourself so low?
I mean, you're a father.
Would you say you're a leader?
I mean, no, we're talking about looks.
We're talking about looks.
We're talking about superficial looks.
Oh, we're just talking.
Oh, we're just talking about that.
Yeah, fucking Peter Dinklich.
Are you kidding me?
I have no idea who that is.
Yeah, I don't know who that is.
Game of Thrones 12th.
Oh, yeah.
Isn't that low self-defense?
No, it's descriptively true.
Look at these shoulders.
Are you kidding me?
I would need to see you in person.
He is a dwarf.
I couldn't even jump kick you.
Wait, how tall are you?
He's like 5'3.
5'10.
Oh.
No, that's awesome.
Okay.
I personally have no work done.
This is my natural hair color.
So I think that finds value in that when it comes to looks.
Who finds value in that?
I don't know.
I got dark brown, big, beautiful, curly, voluptuous hair.
Everyone knows something they love my hair.
I wear this because what?
It don't matter the color of your hair, natural, not.
Because a man could love you with nothing.
He could love you exactly how you are.
Perfect.
You know what I mean?
Beautiful.
Of course, this is my hair.
What are you talking about?
I was.
I came right out of her.
No, no, she bought it.
But like in general, like completely two different shoes, blonde hair, blue eyes, petite, itty bitty, completely different woman than how I am.
You know what I mean?
She could be 100% someone's, they love her and they're looking at me like I'm crazy.
And then it could be the same thing with men with me.
They could look at me and be like, oh, yeah, she's she's my type.
She's as she's at.
And looking at her, being like, oh, I wouldn't, she's not my for everyone, it's just different.
You know what I mean?
Everyone has different, like she said in the eye of the beholder.
It's kind of teacher's own, you know?
Yeah, I don't like that.
I don't like that view.
I like, I like, I want to go back to the world where there were standards for beautiful architecture, beautiful art, beautiful humans.
Yeah, but those people were naked.
They were fucking goblins when we were goblins.
Those people were naked.
No, I haven't.
Okay.
Okay.
I don't know.
There's a super chat to fairy chair one is the only what the fuck?
Okay.
Thank you to fairy uwu.
Thank you for the super chat.
Appreciate it.
Wait, so did they all give like a woman who they thought was a 10?
Did you give a woman?
I named a few, actually.
Tell us a guy who you think is a 10.
Jake Gyllenha.
Jake Gyllenhaal.
Okay.
Any other 10 men?
Oh, I like Anthony Edwards.
What do you think?
Any other 10 guys?
Taylor Lauder.
Dylan O'Brien.
Taylor Lauden.
Dylan O'Brien.
I'm sure there's Dylan O'Brien.
Oh my God.
Tyler Posey, too, though.
I mean, Dylan O'Brien.
Oh, Damon, Ian Solerhomer, or however you say his last name.
So Damon from The Vampire Diaries and Paul Wesley, right?
Yeah.
What about Dan Chappelle?
I know who all of them.
I don't know who Dave Chappelle is.
Okay.
So just to be clear, so you said, wait, Jake, let's just start with Jake Gyllenhal.
Yeah.
So do you think that's a matchup?
Good, fair match, like you and Jake Gyllenhal?
Yeah.
Who's Jake Gyllenhaal?
Now to be charitable, hold on, to be charitable.
Guys, guys, chill.
To be charitable, we are talking just about looks.
Right.
So Jake Gyllenhal also has status, right?
Total package.
Do you still think that's a fair matchup?
Absolutely.
And I'm working my way to the top as well right now.
Wait, like he went in.
You're 29?
No, I'm 26.
Oh, sorry.
I got you.
Okay, you're 26.
You're working your way up to the top of success in my career, yes, in a model.
I do runway shows.
So currently, though, you're not at the top of the modeling.
Also, status between a male and a woman doesn't need to be the same.
Sorry, to be fair, there are people in wheelchairs who do runway shows, so that doesn't say anything.
Okay, well, to be fair, a man and a woman's status don't have to be the same to be a matchup.
Okay, yeah, sure, but it's true.
But, yeah, okay, you don't have to have the same status.
Just like, that's like saying, what's that world-famous soccer player's name?
I'm going to go ahead and grant it.
I agree with you.
Yeah, you know what?
Isn't his wife like a waitress?
There's an album, like, I totally agree with you.
Yeah, they don't have the same status at all.
But of the things that she was a waitress or something.
Of the things, of the things that men find important, do you think, like, and Jake Gyllenhal is offering all this to women?
Do you think you're on Jake Gyllenhal's level?
Yes.
Like, I don't understand how I want to be on the status.
I'm not the same status as him in the world.
I know you're not.
Yeah, that's fine.
Men don't care about you.
Right, exactly.
Men don't care.
Everybody kindly shut the fuck up briefly.
The discipline when it comes to other people talking while other people are talking has been fucking atrocious.
You guys, please just be quiet.
She's talking.
You guys were talking.
You guys were talking.
Stop.
Kindly just stop.
Don't interrupt her.
Don't interrupt me.
One person at a time, please.
Go ahead.
Okay, where were we, though?
So we're talking about how my status, yes, men don't care about status when it comes to women typically.
It's not something that is looked at if they have a high status.
So just because our statuses are different doesn't mean that I don't have like a shot with him, right?
Like if we were in the same room together and he was attracted to me, I think that's all it takes to have a shot with him.
If you were in the same room with him, and if he was attracted to right, if he's attracted to me and then we find mutual interest, we start talking.
That's all it takes to spark a connection with anybody.
It doesn't matter what playing field you're on in terms of status.
So here's the problem is why, you know what?
I'll just ask it super simply.
Okay.
Why can't average women like why don't average women want average men?
Why do you think I'm average?
I'm not even average.
You don't even know.
In LA, I'm not a huge deal, but I'm somewhat average.
I thought you were about to say in LA.
Okay.
And online, yeah.
Like I have a presence, so it's not like I'm necessarily there's not wrong with average.
Like even if I go ahead and grant.
But I'm not.
I'm also not average looking.
I've never been average.
Even if I go ahead and grant that you're like slightly above average, if I give you like a six, that's not Jake Gyllenhaal level.
That's not, you're not Jake Joe and Hall.
So I know I gave myself a five.
Okay, and let's if he rates me on here, hey, rate me, Jake Joe and Hall.
But the issue is, right, is when women have an overinflated sense of how attractive they are, they're going to curve guys who are actually on their level.
So my view is, why do average-looking women not want to date average-looking men?
Why can't average women, average-looking women, or just average women in general, just be like, hey, I'm an average gal.
It would be fair for me to pair off with an average guy.
i'll even go ahead and grant i'll give you your you're above average so that could be like dated medium ready guys already That could be a six or seven.
And I always get told them out of their layers.
Jake Gyllenhaal, you know, there's the totality, the amalgamation of all the things that make him, you know, an attractive guy.
I think he's probably a pretty good looking dude.
He's got stats.
Probably.
Yeah, he's good-looking.
a very good looking guy.
I don't know if he's like a 10.
That Roadhouse movie?
He's absolutely a 10.
Did anybody here see Roadhouse?
Someone's really hot in Roadhouse.
I don't know.
Patrick Swayze's legacy.
So I don't know if he's a 10 out of 10 in looks.
He's probably an eight or a nine.
He's a very good looking guy.
I don't know if he's a 10.
But in any case, why do you deserve Jake Gyllenhal?
What do you mean?
Why do I deserve him?
Well, you said you're a 10.
You said he's a 10.
You think you guys would be a fair match.
If we're good together, we're good together.
It's not about deserving.
Yeah, but so if you're like, okay, I'm holding, if you're like, I'm holding out for a certain caliber of God.
I never said I was holding out.
But, okay, you're a 10.
Don't you want to date a guy who's a 10 though?
I've dated a lot of medium ready guys and you're the only one who's told me, oh, you know, why would like, what are you even saying?
Everyone else said I've dated guys below my caliber or, you know, and that's always been called out by the people I know, people around me, my influencing online.
Oh, why are we even with them?
They're not even on your level.
So that's typically what I hear.
And is that your own assessment of the men you've dated that they're not on your level?
Sometimes, sometimes they are, but they're also, you know, it just depends whether it works out or not.
Yeah, so I think, again, I think you have basically, there's a couple things going on here.
One, women have short-term limited sexual access to men who are more attractive than them.
And then, two, you have your own girlfriends and society at large basically gassing you up, saying this goes back to Disney.
This goes back to childhood.
This goes back to your mom and your parents.
Oh my God, you're so beautiful.
You're the most beautiful girl ever.
Okay, cool.
That's your parents saying that shit.
But, and society gasses you up, too.
It's crazy.
It's not crazy.
It's facts.
So, society is gassing up women.
Look, you can go to men too.
I've been gassed up by no, I'm saying I've been gassed up by men.
Yes, men will gas you up too.
But if you go to a girl's Instagram page, we can test this out super easy.
We could probably pull up any of y'all's Instagram page and you post a photo and it's just a view or whatever.
There's going to be like 20, 30, 40, 50 different girls being, oh my God, Slay Queen, you're beautiful.
You're perfect.
You're whatever the compliments women give each other.
So you got other women, you got your peer group, you got your friend group gassing you up, saying that you're beautiful and attractive, and you start buying into that.
And hey, I think it's, I don't think people should be insulting people in their Instagram posts or in their comment section, but I also don't think we should be lying to people.
Just because you're seeing the comments doesn't mean I get tons of DMs from guys.
It's not just on the comment thing.
A lot of guys are too scared to comment.
I don't dispute at all that you get a bunch of romantic and sexual attention from them.
I'm not going to dispute that at all.
So you think the people that are commenting under girls' pictures are lying to them when they're like, you look so good.
If they think they're going to have a chance to have sex with you, they will tell you this naive.
I'm talking about girls commenting, not guys.
Oh, girls?
Yeah.
Do you think Lizzo is beautiful?
I think she's pretty.
Oh, it's in the eye.
I'd be like, now she's not that bad.
Whenever her prime is Lizzo.
I'd have to see her, honestly, because Lizzo is like a.
I'll give her like a rapper, right?
Picture of Lizzo.
Wait, don't do it.
I've never been attracted to a lot of hair modifications.
Look at all the images.
I don't know.
So you said you think.
Wait, before we pull it up, though.
I would give her like a five out of ten.
Okay, now she's Lizzy.
Yeah, that's why you're breaking.
It's crazy.
You said beautiful.
I mean, like, okay.
What's wrong with her?
Look at her.
These are terrible images of her.
Look, no.
In the second one, she's not like at all how I thought she would look.
Oh, wow.
These are evil.
The second one.
How is this evil?
This is okay.
She lost weight.
I'm talking about in these pictures right here.
Well, because some of the pictures are like they're bad pictures of her.
Bro.
But some of them are like, no, but some of the pictures of her were bad pictures.
I think she is like, some of them are like, Some of them are bad pictures.
No, some of the pictures were.
I do think she has a picture of 9-11.
It's like, what are you talking about?
A bad picture.
It's literally an accurate representation.
What's a good picture of her?
A lie?
I don't think so.
No, the ones where she's like posing and she's like ready for the picture.
I mean, pretty in her skin.
The ones like really hurt me and like great pictures.
That's just real.
Some of the pictures she was kind of.
It was like a weird angle.
Yeah, someone was evil.
She is obese.
Well, yeah.
She's fucking obese.
Right.
And that's not unhealthy.
I do not think being unhealthy is attractive.
It's something that typically goes on being obese.
Look, look.
Are you comparing us to Lizzie?
Why are you guys, why do you guys have to fight so hard to develop an objective truth about beauty and health and standards?
You guys are all delusional.
Okay, delusional.
Okay, so you become like, oh, I'm a 10.
We got girls on here who think they're a 10.
You think that, you know, Pink Shirt thinks she's a 10.
She thinks she's up to par with like the famous ripped actors.
What is causing this delusion?
Forget whether or not it's delusional.
It's all the audience already knows it.
What is causing the delusion?
Maybe it's you know what, Jim Bob.
I've got the answer.
Let me tell you what's causing the mass amounts of delusion.
So here's what it is.
I kind of already went over it, but I'll give the bullet points really quick.
One, society and other women are gassing up other women.
Oh, you're so beautiful.
Women, y'all will gas each other up.
I said the Instagram comments, and you'll say to a girl's face, she's so pretty.
And then behind her face, you'll be like, She's an ugly skin.
Who do you think's a 10?
How does that matter?
It just does.
Do you think anybody in this world's a 10?
I don't think there's 10s.
I think there's like nines.
And then there's like nines.
That's where it is, guys.
There's nines who fit your preferences.
Let's just call it the best.
Well, we can get to that.
I would like to make sure that we're not going to be able to do that.
There's no preference.
There's no nines only.
Yeah, that's where it lies.
Yeah, I think generally speaking, there's no tens looks-wise.
There's nines.
So none of us here could possibly fit his IG standards.
Well, hold on.
I didn't say that I could make a session.
Someone can be attractive or very attractive and not be a 10 or even a nine.
Like eight, seven.
That's hey, good for you guys.
But there is men out there, right, that believe in tens too, right?
Just like we do.
There you go.
Sure.
Okay, fine.
Just for the sake of the argument, sure, I believe there are tens out there.
There's no tens at this table, if that's helpful to you.
To you?
Aw, man.
No, not just to.
I'm going to just say objectively.
Well, I guess it wouldn't be objective.
Yeah, it's not because we've just found subjectively, there's no tens at this table.
The chat's going to go crazy, don't you?
Chat's going to be like, yeah, there's no nines at this table and there's no tens.
In any case, look.
None of them.
So here's my diagnosis, Jim Bob.
Society.
In Instagram comment section, girls being gassed up by their friends, their family, and society.
That's one.
You have a culture that doesn't really check women in any sort of way when it comes to their own looks.
You have a red pill culture that wants to be aware of what?
Let's honesty.
Just honesty.
So the other component here is: so women, women get rejected on the back end.
Men get rejected on the front end.
So if I step to a girl that's out of my league, I get an instant rejection.
If I step to a girl who's outside my league, I don't get a date.
I don't get a number.
I don't get the conversation.
I don't get a kiss.
I don't get sex.
Now let's flip it.
That's a rewind, but fuck it, whatever.
Let's flip it.
As a woman, if you make yourself available to a guy who's outside of your league, you don't get rejected.
You get a one-night stand, friends with benefits, situationship.
Maybe it'll even keep you around for a couple weeks, couple months.
You're not going to get commitment, though.
Because men, if you it doesn't even necessarily have to be you making the first move, but if you are dealing with or step to a guy, because a guy will shoot a shot with a girl, he has no intention of ever taking her seriously in a long-term relationship.
And I can see the gear spinning because you know it's true.
No, actually, I just don't think it's worth responding to at all because there's no changing your mind.
You're stuck in your view.
Here, repeat back what I just said.
Okay.
Yeah, you're just not even paying attention.
No, I am.
Okay, what did I just say?
You're saying that there's no, like a guy will give a girl attention, but he won't pursue her as a wife or anything or a further relationship.
And if she's not in his league, according to you.
Do you think leagues exist?
Because you say that as if I'm like, I'm just saying something that is so preposterous and absurd to be able to categorize people in leagues.
I mean, it's all based off of a superficial aspect that you're going off of.
Super, superficial.
Okay, so you don't care about looks at all?
No, I do.
You'll date a guy who's 4'11 who's like the ugliest motherfucker ever.
I do care about looks.
Okay, so men.
Then why are you making a criticism of superficiality?
Everyone cares about looks.
There's initial attraction.
You should be attracted to your partner.
Okay.
You don't think classes exist, though?
I mean, to add on to that, Brian, is like you have looks.
But let's say someone looked just like a nine.
Let's say that.
And then you start talking to them and you realize they're from bum fuck Minnesota and they chase they chase the shrimp platter around a party like a little poor person.
There's this other aspect of society where we can't deny our class.
I don't admit, I don't say I'm high class.
I'm pretty much my 6.7 meets my class too.
I would say pink shirt, you come from low class, just the way you talk.
So even if you dolled yourself up and you met Jake Jillson before they would be like, they'd be like, you have a very limited amount of vocabulary.
You're not well-mannered necessarily.
There's all these assets.
It's not an insult.
I promise you, because I'm not either.
It's not an insult because I've never heard that in my entire life.
So that's okay.
Oh, well, I guess that makes it true.
Actually, it proves Brian's point is that people literally fluff you up.
And when I ask Brian, what do you think is causing this mass delusion?
I would say it's online shit because you ladies mostly, you post your shit and then you get all these responses fluffing you out, right?
Blowing you out.
You think you're like, you know, your existence is better or more valuable than it actually is.
And then you start believing it, right?
We're saying, we're actually trying to draw you back to reality for your own good and you're fighting it.
You're like, no, let me keep my delusion.
Do you think your approach is proactive?
Hold on.
Let's not.
I'm not going to do the tone police thing, but yeah.
So just to finish off with my point here is, so as women, you guys can deal with men.
Like a 19, 20-year-old girl who is in college can deal with like an NFL player, NBA player, famous musician, famous actor.
Case in point, we were talking about him earlier, Leonardo DiCaprio.
He's dealing with like, I mean, granted, he's dealing with like supermalls and stuff.
So like there's some equivalence there.
But like he's like in terms of his level, he's dealing with like a totally, there's such a differential in terms of who he's dealing with on the socioeconomic and status front.
And granted, men don't really care about that.
But the thing is, is that so you guys as women, you guys, you guys, you women, you can deal with men outside of your league, but they won't give you commitment.
And so what ends up happening, if you start sleeping with these dudes, and who doesn't want to get the best that they can get, I get it, you're going to try to lock down that really attractive, hyper-successful, high-status guy.
You're going to try to lock him down.
You're probably not going to get it because you're dealing outside of your league.
You think women should, like, if you're not in my league, I should just give you the chance the whole time, right?
It's the opposite.
No, you should deal with yourself.
Vice versa.
Because everybody has to stay in the same league.
That's what you're saying.
Yeah, I'll answer your question.
I think you should try to be in your league.
And that could be like plus or minus one point.
It could be plus or minus.
It can be plus or minus one point.
I think that's a fair, you know, I don't think you're honest.
And that's how you feel.
You have to be honest.
Like, if you're going to, if Brian's saying you have to be in your league, it's actually better.
He's actually giving you good advice.
Know the reality you're in.
I don't remember asking this question.
Right.
But just to finish my point here, so when it comes to the league thing, again, like as men, we, okay, I'll paint it like this.
As women, you can spend your 20s hooking up with really attractive guys and chasing after them, but they're not going to give you commitment.
And so what ends up happening is basically once you're like, oh shit, got to settle, got to settle, whatever.
A lot of women think they're settling, but no, it's actually you're doing a comparison game.
You're like, I had this limited level of access to these certain specific men outside of my league throughout my 20s, and they gave me sex, but they didn't give me a commitment.
Maybe they kept me in a situation shape.
Maybe they even dated me for six months, nine months, whatever, but I didn't get long-term commitment from them.
Then, when you get into your late 20s and 30s, you're going to be like, oh, okay, here, the guys who are actually willing to be monogamous, who are actually willing to commit to me, I think they're below me.
And maybe you settle for them, maybe you don't.
And if you don't, you're perpetually chasing after those men outside of your league, and the pattern's going to repeat.
But if you do settle, even though you're really ending up with your equivalent, you're going to feel like resentful that, like, because you genuinely don't think, like, okay, this guy's on my level.
You're like, damn, I'm settling for this guy.
You're not going to treat him as well.
You're probably going to get divorced one, two, three years later.
So, this is a trap that a lot of women fall into.
Men can't fall into this because it just doesn't really happen like that.
Again, if men step to a woman outside their league, instant rejection.
Women aren't going to entertain.
That's true.
It is true.
That's so not true.
I've dated men underneath my league.
But see, that's outside of my league.
You think that they're outside of your league in terms of below your league?
I mean, it could be the case.
I'm not, look, it's not like a 100% a woman has never dated a guy below her league.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying generally.
You literally just said it couldn't happen a second ago.
Just saying.
Let me ask you a question: Do humans have 10 fingers?
Yes.
Are some humans born with 11 fingers?
I think so, yeah.
Yeah, it's a birth defect, essentially.
So, me saying that humans have 10 fingers, that wouldn't necessarily be like I would acknowledge, yes, some humans are born with 11 fingers.
That's not, it's, it's when you're speaking in generalities.
Just a second ago, you said you can't, though, men can't.
Yeah, that's what you said.
Yes, humans have 10 fingers, but you just said men can't.
They always like to argue the like exception to the rule or whatever.
Um, yeah, so when I say I think, yes, as a general, as a general rule, yes, I think the major average men can't date outside of their league.
An average woman, if she was so inclined, average woman, she could fuck six dudes a day if she wanted to.
Average men can't literally cannot do that.
Now we're talking about fucking.
Are we still sticking to like superficially?
Like, are we still, or are we talking about it like that?
Because yeah, women can definitely get more men than men can get women.
Okay, so this would this further bolster my point.
How so?
What do you mean?
How so?
How does that bolster your point?
That if women, if if women have more optionality when it comes to men, if it's easy for higher or lower in between, I can get almost anything I want.
You're saying you could get higher, although you say you're a 10, so that's a bit confusing, but uh, men can't men can't.
Okay, instead of that, instead of higher, okay, most fine.
If you don't like the term can't, vast, vast, vast majority of men can't get women outside their league.
Point blank period, point blank period.
Now, because again, I'll explain it again.
Here's the difference: if a girl wants to have a one-night stand, but she's otherwise not really inclined to have a casual sexual encounter, if a girl's gonna break her rule, like you over there, you're a virgin, right?
Like, it's super unlikely that you're gonna have a one-night stand, right?
But if it was like the most fucking, would you be more likely to do it if it was like the most gorgeous, handsome, beautiful man you've ever seen?
No.
But you would be more likely to do it than if it was like a cave troll.
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So women operate that way.
You're going to break your rule.
Well, I did not say I'd break my rule.
I said.
And you weren't the good person to go to this.
Women who aren't otherwise super inclined to short-term casual sex, if you're going to do it, you're going to optimize, prioritize for a really, really attractive guy.
Men work the opposite.
If we're looking for short-term casual sex, we're going to be like, okay, we just want the quickest, easiest thing we can get.
So if she's less attractive, we'll do it.
Yeah.
It makes sense.
Yeah.
So, man.
Can I ask the second chair?
Oh, go ahead, Brian.
Sorry.
Yeah.
So men kind of work the opposite way.
Additionally, here's a question.
If I can sleep with a girl, I have high levels of confidence I can get her into a long-term monogamous relationship.
If y'all can sleep with a man, you know, pretty quick, whatever.
Well, I mean, you guys can do that.
Of the men that you can have sex with, that you know you can have sex with, and that you'd maybe want to have sex with, do you know with certainty, with certainty and high levels of confidence that you can get them into a long-term monogamous relationship?
To me, sleeping with a man doesn't equal being in a relationship.
Like it doesn't matter.
It doesn't get you further, in my opinion.
Like if I were to just put out, it doesn't mean that actually I see it as less of a relationship.
You know what I mean?
Like if you're going to put out quickly or all the time, then why would he want to be in a relationship with you if you're already putting out?
I mean, that's the whole point, right?
The chase work for something too.
It's not necessarily the quickness or rapidity with which you have sex with the person.
But if you're able to have sex with them, I think when it comes to men, if we're able to have sex with a girl, there's a higher probability, at least for me, my confidence level when it comes to get being able to get that specific woman into a relationship, I'm pretty confident I can get her.
That makes sense.
Her into a relationship.
It's not clear to me that maybe I can frame it this way.
The majority of women that I can sleep with, I can get them into a relationship with me.
The majority of men that you guys can sleep with, it's not clear to me if you can with certainty get those men into a relationship.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Okay.
Are you so tens though?
Yeah.
Didn't change based off of your perspective.
Okay, I'm going to do some super chats, but Jake Gyllenha.
Oh my God, we have Jake Gyllenhaal in the chat.
That's crazy.
You are not a 10.
Put the lingerie in the closet.
Wear clothes that fit.
Do something with that hair mop.
Learn how to apply lipstick.
Laser off that book on your arms.
And maybe a seven.
Wait, I want to see what the person looks like.
Oh, it's a Bible verse.
Okay.
Wait, what's that?
I want to know what this person actually looks like.
I know.
Jake Gyllenhaal.
Obviously, it's not like Jakey Gill.
Obviously, it's Jakey Boy here.
I'm going to let these need to be pulled up like when somebody else is talking.
But you know what?
We need to do.
Shit, I got to wait until she's back for this segment.
So 10?
I said 8.7.
No, you said 10.
No, I didn't.
No, no, no.
Shit, you guys keep saying that.
No, you said 10.
No, she didn't.
She didn't.
Didn't you say 8.7 to.
8.75 is what I said.
Yeah, she did.
She keeps saying that over and over.
No, but didn't you say that when we asked if we had a thousand men in a room?
You said 8.72?
Yeah.
I thought you said 10.
No, she said 10 and she said 10.
You didn't say 10?
No.
Rewinding.
I keep saying no.
I think she's, yeah.
Yo, chat, did she say she say 10?
They're gonna complete whatever.
Wait, what was the thing where I wanted to end the stream?
What was it when I said I wanted to end the stream?
What was said?
She said something, right?
Do you remember, Felicity?
No, I don't remember.
All right, perfect.
Let me see.
Hold on, guys.
Here, we have to do.
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Okay, so I'll just ask the question one more time.
Why can't average women just say they're average and be interested in average men?
That's not how the world works.
I don't know.
You're asking people to answer a very broad.
Quinton, are you single?
Yes.
Okay, so here's what I want to do.
Quentin, stand up.
You can stay there, though.
You're my guinea pig for this.
Rate Quentin.
I'm not doing that.
Rate him like looks-wise?
Yeah.
I think he's a 10.
Oh, shit.
Boom.
Perfect match.
What about?
I'm just, I do.
I noticed him when I walked in the room.
I thought you were very attractive.
I'll give him like a nine.
Nine.
What do you read?
I would give him a ten.
I think he's really attractive.
Maybe a bit too high for me, though.
Too tall.
Too tall.
Yeah.
Okay, you're good.
You're good, Quentin.
You can sit.
Okay, well, that didn't work at all.
It's true.
You picked your really high online.
Quinton's a very handsome man.
I don't know what he's doing over there.
I did not think that through.
I did not think that because you don't see it on the same level.
I think you'd have different eyes than everybody.
If it's the case for women, that even if they think they are a 10, like pink shirt, number two there.
Carly.
If you're a little bit of a nice.
Carly C-A-R-L-I.
That's fine.
Harly.
So if you were to find the right man, and let's say there were six, the looks really wouldn't matter because if it's the case, you would end up if the best thing for you would to end up with a six male, you would do it, right?
If the best thing for me to repeat it, repeat it.
If the best thing for you, the best outcome, is for you to end up marrying, settling down, let's say, or whatever it is to you with a seven, a six or a seven.
If that were the case, what is the leverage of you thinking you're a 10 anyway?
It's not about leverage.
It's just the fact that I do.
And then, so why is that the best outcome for me to end up with someone that's like a seven?
I'm saying, could it be the case?
Because you said you dated people lower than you.
So if you dated, then isn't it possible?
Hold on, let me ask a question.
Isn't it logically possible, practically possible, for you to end up with someone lower than you?
If that's, yeah, but it's not really something I'd want to do, but it's possible.
So do you think you deserve someone equal to you?
As you're saying, you're a 10, right?
So do you think that you're deserving of a 10?
You've earned it?
You did?
I think I'm deserving of it, yeah.
You're deserving because you think you're a 10.
Okay.
And so what is it, if a male is a 10 and they have all this other stuff they're bringing to the table and you think you're a 10, what is it you're actually bringing to the table to the corresponding 10 male that you're in a partnership with?
We're both 10s.
I don't understand what you're saying.
So we're both 10s.
So you're both 10s.
Okay.
If he's a 10, obviously you're not going to date a 10 or marry a 10 who doesn't have a job, right?
Those exist.
There's like some pretty good.
Right, and I also have a job.
Yeah.
No, there's really hot bums out there, but I'm not dating a bum.
Yeah.
Cool.
You won't marry a bum, right?
Even they're a 10, right?
Right.
Cool.
So what else in addition to being a 10 do they have to have to meet your criteria for them acquiring you?
To be a good person, to be, you know, like I said.
You say homeless people aren't good people?
Terrible.
Just terrible.
I met in a relationship.
I meant a good person in a relationship.
So based off of like how you're able to treat me, you know, with res with love and caring and kindness, that kind of thing.
Cool.
To be loving.
So there are 10.
Okay, so there are 10.
They have no job or income, but they're really nice to you.
Are you accepting them?
No, because we're also not on the same level.
I have a job and income.
Why would I accept anybody below that?
What's their income need to be?
They're a 10.
Okay, look at Carly Joe or whatever your name is, Carly Ross.
Carly Carly.
You don't have to know what your fake name is.
It's not fake.
Thank you.
You have a 10, a 10?
You have a 10?
Visually, a 10.
Jake Gyllenhaal, fucking ripped abs, shoulder quads, bigger shoulders than me, not hard to beat.
Right.
They make a lot of money now, right?
And they're nice to you.
That's great.
So how much money?
How much money do they need to make?
I don't have an exact number of how much money someone has to make.
If we're going to be equal, right, if we're both 10s, and there you go, they can make more, you know, they can make.
You just said they can't be jobless.
So obviously there's a threshold of what they have to make if they can't be homeless and jobless, right?
Enough to provide for themselves and me if need be.
Okay, so they provide for themselves.
They live in a studio apartment that's kind of run down.
They're providing for themselves.
They feed themselves.
They have a job.
They're a 10.
Are they up to par with you?
Are you going to accept them as a potential mate for life?
I have been in these situations where I date guys that, you know, they're a 10 looks-wise, you know, and they, again, have the apartment.
And I don't know.
I've picked, I have picked guys like that, but they also usually don't have the same goals as I do even.
They're not driven.
It shows a lack of drive.
It doesn't show that if they don't have the same drive I do, that's not possible.
Because I've tried that and they just end up being very bummy.
If you don't have, yeah, I don't know.
The guys I see are going to go up.
You know what I mean?
I understand.
He needs drive.
He needs to be a 10.
He needs to have a job.
He can't be homeless.
And he has to, basically, there is an income level, but you just can't name it.
That's fair enough.
I'm not expecting you to be like super detailed about the threshold, but maybe generally speaking, can you name a threshold of income that would maybe teeter you toward him being worthy of your presence?
It's not necessarily worthy of my presence.
It's just on terms of like being a husband and willing to showing who he is as a man, I guess, is what it is.
I still don't know when.
$100,000?
$100,000, $50,000 is $50.
Well, $50,000 is like a bare minimum.
You could be a waiter and make $50,000 a year.
Jim Bob, I want to let you do it, but there's a lot to get through.
Go ahead, Brian.
I'll abandon it.
It's not going anywhere.
So go ahead.
Really quick, I'll just pull up Chef's super chat.
Chair one kind of looks like an old home, but thank you, Chef.
Appreciate it, man.
Okay, so let me let this chat come through.
Sayre Wizard, again, you girls don't know how men think.
You're either in the F-only box or relationship box.
Most girls are in the F-box.
If not, where's your ring?
F-box is not a win for you.
Hope you realize that.
Yeah, that's kind of what I was trying to get to.
Wizard, thank you for the message, man.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And okay.
And so I guess I'm going to be quick on this one going around the table.
Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
Probably not.
Okay.
What about you?
I wouldn't say better, no.
Just as good looking?
10 years' time at 36 versus 26?
I think I'll still look good.
Yeah, but every.
Yeah, that's not the question, though.
Do you think you'll be just as good looking?
No.
Okay.
You're 29.
Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time at 39?
No.
And then you're 29.
Were you better looking at 19 or better looking now at 29?
No.
Okay.
You're 27, better looking in 10 years' time at 37?
Yeah.
There's people who are just listening audio.
Can you speak?
No.
Okay.
I don't think I will be better looking in 10 years' time, but I am better looking than 10 years ago.
Okay, so better looking now at 35 versus when you were 25, you're 18.
Will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 28?
I think so.
Okay, 20 years' time, 38?
No.
Into the mic, please.
No.
Okay.
You're 27.
Will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 37?
I don't think so.
Okay.
And then, all right, that's pretty much it.
Felicity has done this whole bunch.
We're going to pull up the age advanced thing.
If you can get those going, Quinton?
All right, so you have that pulled up for the first one?
All right.
All right.
And I'll be switching back and forth.
So, Window.
So this is you.
Wow, you fucked your eyes up pretty bad.
That's you, older.
Let's do next.
Not ready for the terrible picture.
Oh, God.
Okay.
Horrible picture.
Next.
Oh, my God.
It looks like my thesis.
It doesn't even exist.
I'm scared.
They don't have.
Oh, my gosh.
The filter is brutal.
Not everybody ages this way, people, just so you know.
Next.
I know, it's just the filter.
What?
That's terrible.
God.
This is why people on the internet feel terrible about themselves.
Wow.
Damn.
Next.
Who's a favorite?
Wait.
When did they take these photos?
I will say I went.
Remember when he did the first picture?
I know you do.
Oh, my God.
Yikes.
That was bad.
Where's yours?
All right.
Yeah, they'll do me.
They'll do next.
Okay.
What the fuck?
You look like you would be like a sweet grandfather.
Next.
Oh, shit.
What the fuck?
Dude, that looks like something from Mom.
He looks giving Lord of the Rings.
Who is that actor?
You look just like that.
No, I know what actor you're talking about, but I don't know the name.
He does look just like the actor.
Ian McKellar.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Did we see a picture of Ian?
Oh, and then now, now what we're going to do is the gender swap.
Once she's back, I guess.
I've done that before.
Yo, J.Co., thank you for the soup chat, man.
Appreciate it, appreciate it.
Find a rich guy.
Okay, thank you, J.C.O., appreciate the super chat.
And then we have Flory.
Thank you for the.
That's from Flory.
There it is.
Thank you for the soup chat.
Guys, just a reminder, read is 100.
Read threshold is 100.
TTS is 200.
Let's pull up the gender swap and we're going to have people react to that.
It should be probably the next thing, I guess.
Yeah, you can.
So, what I want you to think here is oh, can you control mouse wheel down on these just to make them a little smaller?
It should be like one or two points.
Yeah, that's perfect.
Would you date your male self if you're single, you know?
Well, I'm in a relationship.
If you're single.
Yeah.
If I were single, that looks too much like my dad.
So, no.
Got it.
Okay.
What about you?
Oh, sorry.
It's also a terrible picture.
I mean, actually, to be like, you're going to see the AI massively fucks up people.
Yours actually is the hair.
Like, usually the hair gets all fucked up.
The hair's not that bad there.
So this is the male version of you.
Question, Jesus.
But I also think that's a terrible picture of myself all the way to the tanks or a 10.
I just don't think that's a good picture of me at all.
I didn't think mine was a good picture either, but the media knows that.
But I thought you would do a good picture.
Oh, I guess everyone critiques themselves.
It looks like you.
I think you look really pretty in your picture.
Thanks.
Yeah.
I wasn't a fan of the picture, but that's okay.
I think they did a good job of it.
Go to the, yeah.
So would you date the male version of you?
I mean, it would be like dating my twin, so no.
But that's like you.
That's like your equivalent.
It's not true because that's like saying I would date my twin brother.
No.
Yes, it is.
If they look just like you, that's not the same thing.
Having the same scale and looking the same is completely different.
What does your picture?
What does her picture look like?
Wait, I have a question for you, Carly.
If you didn't have breakfast this morning, how would you feel?
I didn't have breakfast.
So what's the point of that?
Nice.
Nicely done.
Oh, boy.
Executed perfectly.
You need to do that.
So this is a test to see if you can engage with a hypothetical.
Which you failed the test.
You can't engage with hypotheticals.
Okay.
So I just don't like them actually.
That makes sense because I've never liked hypotheticals.
I hate them.
I think they're stupid.
I like examples.
I don't necessarily like imaginary things.
So the correct response would be, I would be, if I didn't have breakfast this morning, I would be hungry.
Okay, I've heard that before.
Yeah.
The response shouldn't be, but hold on.
I did eat breakfast.
Or I didn't.
Okay, so I don't like hypotheticals.
Or I didn't.
Not everybody has to like them.
Okay.
Let's see.
All right.
Okay.
Next.
Next.
What the fuck?
Oh, look at what you did.
I don't see that.
You know who you look like?
You know who you look like?
You look like, you look like.
You look like.
No, you look like Bobby Chill.
You look like Bobby, Leslie's men.
Ugly as hell.
Hell no, I'm Asian.
He's Asian.
He's Asian.
Next.
Oh, you got our eyes closed.
That's a no.
That picture.
That's valid, though.
I mean, you are still.
Peter Penn.
Oh, that's so.
Peter Pen.
That's your pride.
See, the hair's all fucked up, too.
Holy shit.
Peter Pen.
Okay, next.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
Would you date your male self?
Can I see that again?
Yeah, I'll pull it up.
That's a bad sound.
That looks Armenian, though.
It doesn't even look like you anymore.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
But I think I was going to say no, but I think the AI made me good.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's not even a good idea.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
You look like one of the Jonas brothers.
The hair's all fucked up.
Kind of, yeah, I see that.
Next.
Maybe Joe Jonas.
Oh, that looks like Jonas.
That looks exactly like my brother.
Yeah, I don't like that fact.
That looks like my brother was long.
My brother has long hair, and that looks like my brother if he had short hair.
I'm so excited.
No, because that's like that's what I think.
I like that.
I don't know.
I think he's kind of hard.
All right.
Next.
Oh, that looks just like that.
Wow.
I look like my father.
Wow.
I really do.
I see it now.
Yeah, that's all my dad.
You look like you would be a kind man.
He looks kind.
Yeah.
She's kind.
You look like you work at a Verizon store.
Is that a bad thing?
No, I see that.
No.
But like the secondary, not like the main Verizon store.
You get such a dude back all the time.
Why?
Thank you.
Wait, why is that?
Just be cool.
When I look at you, your name's Ruby, right?
Yeah.
And I love how you wear all the red.
That is so cute.
You're like a little Ruby.
Thank you.
Oh, God.
Oh, you guys put that together.
What the fuck?
Okay.
Next.
Oh, no.
Actually, wait, I kind of look at Jack Frost.
This is probably better.
Is that the same exact movie as last time?
Yeah, Brian.
Same exact dude.
No, usually it gives the bang.
Or wait, is this the same one as last time?
Oh, that's the pink shirt.
That's not the one.
Oh, it is the one from last time, I guess.
Next.
Oh, my.
Oh, that was a huge.
He's such a nice lady.
That second one was a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a drink.
Oh, that's you.
A trustworthy one.
Damn.
I look like goth, like some depressed.
Brian, that second picture right there, number two, that is a good mom right there.
That's like a trustworthy damn.
That is nice.
Does it look like it?
She just.
Oh, no.
That does not look like a mom.
That is a mom who makes every soccer practice.
I don't know.
She kind of looks like a slut, to be honest.
Looks like a cereal colour.
Fuck it.
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
If you're a girl, would you be a slut?
Is that what you say?
She looks like a low.
Nah, nah, if I would- wait, what the fuck?
I don't want to talk about it if I was a chick, but no, I would not be a slut.
If I was a woman, I would not be a slut.
You'd be a high-caliber woman.
You would be.
I would be a high-caliber woman.
I don't know.
You ready to pop out seven kids a whole baseball show?
If you were a woman, how would your average day go?
Yeah.
How would my average day go?
Yeah, what do you have to do as a woman?
Like, what would you do today?
I would just enjoy.
I would enjoy the vast amounts of female privilege that I enjoy and just walk around and have people pay things for me because I'm a woman.
Brian, you do look good.
No, I'm talking about an actual day in your life.
Like, what kind of woman would you be?
Huh?
Yeah, what kind of actual woman?
I'm asking about an actual day in your life.
Like, what kind of woman would you be?
Like, would you be a nurse?
Would you work in a grocery store?
Would you, like, what would you be?
I would be a soccer player, probably.
So you live in hypotheticals.
Huh?
Was that like a.
I don't know.
I was just curious.
I don't know what kind of donkey do you want.
You think you'd be good enough for professional women?
I'd be a loud dog.
It's funny.
I was not a classic dude or a brother, but you know, I was galloping in the harems of Africa, wherever zebras live, and I would eat lots of grass.
It would be great.
If you were a woman, I could do this in a minute.
If I was one of those birds, I don't know.
If you were a hedgehog, I would enjoy the football.
I feel very wearing.
I was a flamingo.
Here, Carly, if you were a flamingo, because you're wearing pink.
If you're a flamingo, what kind of, go ahead, do the flamingo.
She's like, I would never be a flamingo.
You're standing on flaming.
They stand on.
They stand for the bad.
Okay.
Do we have a next?
We have a next, right?
Lord Farquhar.
Lord Farquhaw.
The middle one's Gary.
Lord Farquhaw, for sure.
It's like a man.
Yeah, you're out of here.
Nice.
Definitely looks like a.
Never mind.
I'm not going to say it on the show.
Wait.
That's hilarious.
Mac knows what I'm saying.
Oh, we have a chat here.
Are those it, Quentin?
Are those all of them?
Can you just close?
Just close those out.
Make sure to keep those other tabs open, though.
Oh, okay.
So we're going to try to blast through as much of the notes as we can here just for wait again.
You guys don't know how.
Oh, okay.
I already read that chat.
Cool, cool, cool.
We're going to get into the questionnaire.
What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
Whatever the cost of living in the area that we decide to live in is, I guessed in like, like in California, that's around 80K, so I would hope for that.
What about you?
We're just trying to put numbers on things still.
So just above poverty, like not like, I guess it's hard to describe because, yeah, like she said, it's based on location.
So depending on where you're at and how much money you make.
If you stay in SoCal.
Middle to upper class of like whatever the middle and upper class numbers would be.
200K, 300K?
Sure, 200K.
Okay.
What about you?
I put 150K.
What about you?
250.
Okay.
All right.
I put like what is the minimum that it would require if he was single to live on, depending on the city.
Sure.
I have no concept of money, to be honest, so I put $100,000.
That's a good story.
$100,000 minimum, okay?
Yes.
What about for you?
I think it'd be the same, enough to sustain a family.
Well, you wrote six figures here.
So what is six figures?
Well, six figures.
$100,000.
Yeah.
Okay, so that's the minimum.
Okay.
All right.
So.
I think that's fair, like, especially in California, especially in Santa Barbara.
How much price is $100,000 used to be a lot now?
So you put $250K, you put $150K, I think you said what?
$2K.
Or $200K.
I mean, that puts, I think 1% is $450,000.
To be in the 1%, it's over $450,000 a year.
In the country or worldwide?
That's in the United States.
To make more than $400,000.
To be in the 1%, you need to make over $450,000 a year.
This might actually be a bit more because of some of the recent inflation.
That number could be a couple years old, but I thought it was like $40K.
$40.
And I'm just saying that because I'm taking like a finance class and we talked about this, what the average 1% is, and it's like $40K.
I thought that was like worldwide.
That would put you in for the entire world making $40,000 a year.
I don't remember if it was a world or the $100.
can do that as a waiter yeah that's you think only one percent of people in the u.s make 40k um Oh, dude.
What's that?
It says Audio is not going to be certain.
Wait, what do you mean?
Yeah, you can't hear you.
Oh, I think he's just talking to his chat.
Oh.
Yeah, it's yeah, sorry, visually, that's very misleading.
No, it's all good.
It's all good.
No, it's all good.
Um, okay.
Uh, I mean, you know, you are a 10, you are 8.75.
I only gave that number because that's how much I would make a year or more.
You know, they want a guy who makes a lot of money, you know.
Since you're a 10, dude, this whole time he's been like, you know, it's a lot of money.
You guys want a guy?
It's just because, like, you know, you can do it yourself.
Money is a lot of money.
How tall are you, and what's the minimum height of the man you would date?
Um, I'm five, four and a half, and I don't care how tall a guy is.
Okay, what about you?
I'm five, three, and I've dated somebody the same height as me, so I guess there wasn't a minimum.
Now, I do prefer taller guys because I wear a lot of heels.
So, just somebody taller than me.
I would say like minimum 5'7 at this point.
Okay.
Just because keep up with the heels.
I'm 5'6, and the minimum of height would be like 5'10.
What about you?
I'm 5' and maybe like 5'7 ⁇ , 5'8.
What about you?
Yeah, same.
5'5'1.
You?
5'6, 5'7.
And you?
I'm 5' and I think I put down 5'5.
Okay.
I'm gonna just move on to the next just for sake of time.
Would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest?
Depends on the man and depends on the bear.
So it's random bear, random man.
Okay.
Is that so you don't pick?
So you might get lucky with a good man or you might get lucky.
Because I am a professional athlete.
I think that even if the man did attack me, then I would stand a better shot at being able to defend myself against that man than that bear.
But also the bear could just leave me alone and the man could attack me.
Yeah, and the bear could attack you and the man could leave you alone.
Yeah, exactly.
So okay, so which do you pick if you had to pick one?
I would say I guess man this time.
Okay.
What about you?
Well, one time it's actually funny.
It's a quick story.
Quick.
I was on, oh, it's funny.
I was on a boat full of lesbians.
They were, you know, I was on a boat.
We were all friends.
It's fine.
And it was just ironic because they asked me, oh, what do you think?
We saw a bear.
I'm from the world where bears live.
So we see a bear.
We're like, oh my god, there's a bear.
And then they asked me, Aren't you scared of seeing bears in the woods when you walk around?
Blah, blah, blah.
What are you most scared of in the woods?
And I literally said, seeing a man.
So not a bear.
I'd rather see a bear any day.
Come across them all the time.
Okay, so what?
Wait, wait, hold on.
Hold on a second.
If you saw a bear, if you saw a bear in the woods, the moment you see a bear and you're afraid, a bear that looks like it's going to attack you, would you rather see another bear or a man?
Why does it look like it?
We weren't talking about looks like it's going to attack you.
We just said, would you rather see a bear on a man?
Well, if it's a bear, it could attack you, right?
It could, and so could a man.
You don't know if it's going to or not.
If there was a bear, would you rather see an would you rather have another bear there or a man?
Another bear.
A bear.
I've been around many bears.
I'm just going to let the rest of the group get around on this.
I'd rather be around a man.
You pick men?
Okay.
What about you?
Bear.
Bear?
I would pick a man.
What about you?
A man.
Okay, what about you?
Which is a bear.
Bear.
Okay.
Man.
Okay, so bear, bear, bear.
Bear.
Really quick, before we get into the bear thing, we'll linger on it.
We'll briefly.
Can you pull up, Quinton?
Can you pull up that bear article?
So apparently, guys, there was a black bear sighting in Santa Barbara.
Oh, I saw that.
In Santa Barbara.
It was on the college campus.
Black bear sighting in Kalita and UCSB, that's University of California, Santa Barbara.
That's super close.
Prompt alert alerts and warnings.
Local residents have been spotting a black bear throughout Kalita neighborhoods in UC Santa Barbara.
And then scroll down just a bit, scroll down.
We're going to skip that video, skip that video.
We're going to play that video, though, if you can press play on it.
So could you go full screen on that one?
So you're just gonna, yeah, that little full screen symbol.
Oh, shit.
Damn, that's crazy.
That's on the university campus.
Just a black bear chilling.
That's so crazy.
I could be a teenager.
It's probably so.
Just kicking it.
Yeah, it's just a bear.
And then escape out of that and then just hit escape.
And then scroll down a little bit.
Let's see if there's anything else.
Keep scrolling.
They're more scared of that.
I think that's more familiar of them.
That's why I said that.
That's pretty much it.
So, really quick, we only have a few minutes to give to this specific topic.
For those who picked bear, that's you, you, and you, Ruby.
Why do you pick bear?
Why don't you pick men?
Quick answers if you can.
Actually, let's start with Ruby first.
Ruby, why don't you go first?
I'm very weak.
So I think if it would be, if I would run into a man, like I would feel very defenseless and vulnerable.
And if it's my time to go being, you know, eaten by a bear, I guess.
I'd rather be eaten by a bear than like running into danger with like a man.
Like, it's okay, you know, make it quick.
Okay, what about you?
I said bear because you could scare it off.
Like with bears, you could probably scare off a man too, I guess.
I mean, yeah, but you got to work really hard to scare them off.
You know what I mean?
Hold your nails up to the camera.
They don't leave.
Hold your nails up.
They don't leave easy, even with the.
Oh, no, that shit could scare somebody away.
They don't leave easy.
Why'd you pick there?
I just feel personally more comfortable alone with a bear than a man I don't know.
So, and I've been around bears in many situations like that.
And I've walked in the woods where I've come across, like, let's just say I'm walking, hiking a trail and I come across a man I don't know.
I'm immediately more on guard than I am with a bear because I feel much less threatened by a wild animal, honestly, than I do.
A man I don't know.
Alone.
Yeah, so.
In a setting where I'm all alone.
Yeah, so for the women who picked bear is the assessment, the analysis here, you're doing a risk assessment and you're thinking, okay, the random man could do nothing.
The random bear could do nothing.
Or the man could have bad intentions and the bear could, you know, he could kill me.
The man could try to essay me and the bear would just kill me.
Is that kind of your assessment there?
Like, okay, the guy could essay you, basically.
That's mine assessment.
That's your assessment.
What about you?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
That the guy would...
Like, is that the fear, basically?
Yeah, the fear of that.
And I, again, I know I'm putting myself into my own shoes, but I literally have been around so many bears that they don't scare me at all.
Okay.
So I guess just to ask bluntly, what percentage of men do you think are inclined towards like essaying women?
We'll start with you, Ruby.
I'm sorry, repeat the question.
What percentage of men do you think are inclined to essay women?
Or kill them, I guess?
I don't know.
Yeah, just give me, it doesn't have to, you don't have to be precise.
It could be, and if it's off by a few percentage, 10%, 20%, 30%, 40%, 50%.
That's the majority.
Just based on my, I feel like I'm in a bubble, especially since I'm here in Santa Barbara.
I feel like I live in paradise.
Let's just talk United States.
A United States.
I haven't been to a lot of the.
Yeah, that's fine.
I haven't been to certain places.
So I wouldn't know how to put a number on that.
It's kind of hard to put a number.
I think 7%.
7% for you?
I wouldn't know a number.
No, I think so.
I don't want to shout out again.
I'd probably say like 60%.
That's like a little bit of a bad thing.
Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
Sorry, repeat it.
Sorry.
No, no, repeat it.
Oh, I'd say 60%.
60.
60%.
Okay.
What do you think?
I'm surrounded by like really good people.
Like, it's hard for me to, like, imagine.
So you just think, like, Santa Barbara is the...
Hold on.
Hold on, guys.
Stop.
You think Santa Barbara is this enclave of really good guys, but you step outside Santa Barbara and it's like grape central?
No, no, no, no.
That's not what I'm saying at all.
I'm just saying I don't know any better.
I don't know what to compare it with since I've been always like in a very safe space.
I don't know.
What do the feminists tell you?
I don't really listen to them.
I don't know if you've been hearing my answers.
I'm not really that pro modern feminism.
I think it's probably make a case for the opposite.
But so if you just had to throw a number on it.
20.
20?
Okay, and then what about you?
I just don't know why you want us to give numbers.
Like, what's the point of it?
Why would the reasonings for my asking the question?
Because I don't have a number.
I can't honestly give a number.
I don't want to just spew out crap.
Like, I don't know how many men would be.
I'd have to see the statistics.
It doesn't have to be accurate.
What do you feel?
What do you think?
What do you feel?
There's a lot of, I don't know, the percentage of how many men would want to do that, but I just feel like it could be.
As a woman, we're placed in a.
I was placed in a position, you know, to be on high alert, and that's how I grew up.
So I'm always ready to think that anybody could do anything at any time.
So I don't know.
Do you want to just throw out 30%, 40%, 50%?
Maybe like the whole population of the U.S., right?
That's what we're going to base this off of.
Maybe like 10%.
Okay, sure.
So 10%.
Ruby and did Ruby, you give a percent.
I said 20%.
20%.
What did you give?
7%?
And then you said 60% for 60%.
Yeah, but I have no idea.
Like, that was just a random number.
But why did your intuition bring you to 60%?
I don't know.
I feel like people underestimate a lot.
I don't know.
It's like where you don't know if you're always sitting next to a murderer.
I don't know.
You told me to give you a number.
I just gave you a number.
I just guessed.
I didn't know.
Within like within the reason.
Well, I just thought maybe more than half.
I don't know.
So you think 60% of men are grapists?
No, you asked who would think about that.
Like you asked how many percentage of men we thought would think about it.
Wait, hold on.
No, I definitely didn't say would think about it.
I said, I thought you meant like thought about it like doing it to someone.
My bad.
Sorry.
I wouldn't even say 60% of men have thought about.
Okay.
Okay, what percent, if you had to assign a percentage?
Well, I don't know if you're just walking it back because you're like 60%.
That's ridiculous.
I'm not.
I just didn't, I just don't know.
Okay.
Then throw out a number for like what percentage of men do you think would be inclined in this situation of being and they they're in the force alone with a woman.
What percentage of men would grape a woman?
I don't know.
I'll say 20.
I don't know.
20%.
I don't know.
Okay.
I mean, I'm just curious if this changes anything for you.
Well, I'll wait till she's back on the bear conversation, but are you going to compare statistics?
What do you mean?
How, what the percentage is of being attacked by a man, by a bear, versus how many?
Well, here's the thing is, is the?
Well, let me ask you, do you think that uh, it would be fair to compare all the bear attacks in the USA and compare and say there's more uh essays and there's more like men who are violent towards women or who murder women than there are bear attacks?
Do you think that that's a fair comparison?
You're the one who asks the question.
We just answered it.
You're the one making the comparison, like the question that was written there.
You know we didn't word that question.
You're the one making the comparison, so repeat your question.
Well, I didn't ask a question.
She asked if you were gonna.
She asked if you were um, gonna compare the statistics of like, how many people get graped and how many people have been attacked by bears.
So I mean, I would, I would say one, and I don't think the statistics here would necessarily, no pun intended, bear out.
So I think per capita is important here.
The amount of most people are not encountering bears nearly at the same frequency as they're encountering men, and so I think that you have to do an analysis of per encounter right, but even beyond that, I think it's interesting to say i'd rather be.
It's sort of emblematic of the degree of feminism and sort of casual misandry misandry, man hatred that permeates society, so to say.
I'd rather be with a, i'd rather encounter a wild animal dangerous they're, they're bears, are apex predators than with a random man.
Seems to be a.
Uh rather, I.
I mean, I would just paint it as sexist.
i think it's a sexist position what just one last thing positive yeah just one last thing so i guess my final question on this is as follows do you guys think it would be racist if the question was changed as follows would you rather cross paths with a black person or a bear in the forest and if somebody picked bear instead of black person would they be a racist
I feel like black person, because you're just saying personal, please.
You're just saying person, right?
Not woman or man person.
So it could be a black woman, it could be a black woman, it could be a black man, but they pick the bear regardless.
Well, I mean yeah, black person.
I think the fact that you pulled in race, yeah into the question makes it racist.
Yes wait, what?
What do you mean?
Wait, hold on, hold on.
How does that make it racist?
The same way, it makes it racist because we don't know if it's a man, we don't know if it's a man or a woman.
Ah, I see.
So, just to be clear, you'd pick the black woman over the black man.
Again, it's making it like it's making it racist.
Okay cool, so I get just like how, it's not about being sexist, about being scared okay, I know I, I actually love this point.
So, but really quick, before I get to do with color, how is it so?
Are you saying me, just even asking the question, i'm racist?
Is that what you're saying or i'm not?
I'm saying it makes the question racist.
Like, how would the question to this?
When you ask, why are we bringing gender into this?
So, just to be clear, what then if, using your own logic, if the question itself is racist, to say, I would rather if they?
Well, you're.
You're not even pointing to the answer of it, you're just saying the question in and of itself is racist.
So then surely, following your logic, it would be sexist To even ask the question, do you pick the man or the bear?
Yes, sexist.
Is that fair?
You're saying if it makes it sexist.
Is it sexist?
Uh-huh.
I mean, following your own logic, if it's racist to just put in black person in place of man, it must also then be sexist.
No, because what?
Men are usually known to be more aggressive.
You know, they're stronger.
Sure, you want to go down this?
Okay, so you want to play statistics.
Am I wrong to say that men are usually like typically stronger, like physically?
Statistically, men get assaulted more than women, right?
Statistically.
Yes, so yes, men are more likely to be victims of violent crime, but by men or by women.
How would it matter?
Because if it's because if it's a man is being attacked by a man, you know, that kind of confirms that they are being violent towards each other.
I'll just go ahead and grant, just for the sake of this argument, I'll go ahead and grant that, yeah, men are men, as compared to women, are fuck it, I'll just grant it, more likely to be what's that to be violent, sure.
Yeah, what's your point?
Well, that's the only reason why I would choose a bear.
Yeah, but so let me ask you a question.
If statistics indicated, and I'm not going to make this claim, but this isn't necessarily my position.
But if there were statistics to back up that certain racial groups were more or less violent than other racial groups, then what would actually be racist about a white person or a Latino or an Asian person saying, hmm, I pick the bear over the black person.
Now, my position would be it would be racist to pick the bear over the black person.
Okay.
I understand your point.
But so is it racist?
Is it racist to pick the bear?
If you pick a bear, so the question is: would you rather cross paths with a black person or a bear in the forest?
Black person.
And you pick bear, does that, is that racist?
It's just a weird question.
I feel like it's a very important thing.
Sure, I agree.
I'm not going to argue with you whether it's weird or not.
I'll go ahead and grant.
It's a super weird question.
I'm going to answer that.
Answer the question.
I'm just curious, though, why is it so easy for you to just instantly bear if it's a man?
But if we change it.
I don't know if it's a man or a woman.
And I don't like hypotheticals.
Yeah, nobody's thinking about a woman.
Right, so you'd be taking...
Yeah, and a man could be totally harmless or, like, there's a .0001% chance he could be a serial killer.
But you still pick Bear.
Yeah, we have flawed logic.
It's based off of society.
I was raised in a military house, so I was like, okay, take it to the back of the data.
Take it, take it.
Next question.
Thank you for conceding the argument then.
It's just interesting.
I would say if you pick bear over black person, that makes you a racist.
I would say bear over man.
That makes you a racist person.
She wasn't so bad.
So this is why it makes you raise.
Asking the racist brother.
Yeah, go ahead.
I have two quick hypotheticals here.
Go ahead.
Let's change the environment.
If you walk into an elevator, would you rather be in an elevator with a wild bear or a random man?
Okay, I would choose a man.
The man's gonna be in the elevator anyways.
You're not gonna find a bear in an elevator.
I ask you, you have a choice.
You're either a guy in the elevator with a rat, a bear, a wild bear, or a man, which you're actually looking at as wild, right?
You're just as wild as the bear in this case, right?
What do you choose in the elevator scenario?
So the man's wild.
You just said the bear is so wild.
No, no, I'm saying you guys are treating men as wild in the bear-man hypothetical.
So I agree, men are dangerous.
Bears are dangerous.
So now I'm just changing the environment and seeing what you guys say.
If you guys could just kindly engage with the hypothetical, okay?
Because it's in such close proximity.
I would choose, in that instance, I would choose a man.
Yeah.
A man.
Yeah.
But the man could just as well violate you, right?
I know.
For the women who chose the bear, isn't it the case that trapped in an elevator, that's a perfect time to yeah, I would still choose the bear.
I never change my answer.
You get in the elevator or the bear instead of a random man.
The bear.
Cool.
Okay, cool.
So every time a man actually steps into an elevator.
If it's the case, let's just grant, let's just grant it that men are dangerous.
Let's just grant it that you have every reason to be fearful of men, random, collective individual at that level, okay?
Now, I want to ask you guys a question.
Do any one of you ladies oppose the patriarchy?
Like, like find that you hold a position that we should take it down?
the reason I'm connecting these is if it if it's the case is that because men are leaders in the hold on a second If it's the case that you take the bear, the bear over the man, you're admitting that men are dominant, violent, aggressive, and scary, basically.
That you should watch out, that you should avoid them, basically.
If that's the case, aren't you conceding that reality descriptively is dominated by men?
I mean, would you argue otherwise?
No, I wouldn't argue otherwise.
I'm just on your concession that if it's the case that reality descriptively is dominated by men such that you would even choose the bear over the man, how could you possibly, any one of you, take a position of feminism or questioning the patriarchy if in fact you're so afraid of men that you would choose a wild beast who's basically designed to eat your body parts one by one?
No.
No.
I was designed to eat humans.
I will say that I'm giving my answer based on like the worst circumstances, meaning like if I'm like in the wild and then there's like a strange dangerous man, that's what I'm comparing in my mind.
If I would encounter myself with a stranger, a man, dangerous and aggressive versus a wild bear, then I'd weigh my options more the bear because I would just stay still.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
If you encountered a man who you thought was aggressive and was going to harm you, and you asked another question, would you choose a bear or another additional man who is good?
Then I would choose the good man.
If you're telling me if I have to choose a wild bear versus a good man, hands down, like a good man.
Well, that's where it all breaks down because if I simply change the location of the hypothetical to an elevator, suddenly everyone on the panel chooses, except for Pink here, because she's delusional, chooses the man.
Why?
Because it's more likely the case that you take elevators every day in your ordinary life.
That's an opportunity for every male that you ever thought was horrible to violate you on the elevator.
Yet you would still choose a bear in the instance where the hypothetical and the probability is very unlikely that a random man would attack you in an elevator.
You would still choose the bear.
Only one of you choose.
Not as unlikely as the bear being in the elevator.
now i'm wondering what's the difference between in the woods bear man versus in the elevator bear man repeat it what What's the difference between bear in the woods such that you choose the bear, but you choose the man in the elevator?
What's the difference between the bear in the woods versus the man in the elevator?
What's the difference between the two hypotheticals?
What's the threshold break?
What's the symmetry breaker between choosing the bear?
It doesn't apply to you because you fucking chose the bear in the elevator.
No one else on the panel chose the bear in the elevator, but they chose the man.
So for anyone who chose the man in the hypothetical, who chose the bear in the hypothetical in the woods over the man, and you chose the man over the bear in the elevator, what's the difference?
Why did that change your answer?
Are you talking to me?
Okay, I don't know who you're talking to.
No, I'm not talking to pink because you chose bear for both.
I'm talking to anybody who chose bear in the woods but chose a man in the elevator.
Who chose that?
Did anyone choose that on the panel?
They don't even remember.
You guys don't even fucking remember.
Someone isn't listening.
They're talking like on their computers.
Checked out.
Yeah.
But question.
So do you guys think, and final thing on the bear thing?
Because of women, and I acknowledge that women have had, maybe majority of women, all women even have had bad experiences with men.
Don't dispute it at all.
There are bad men out there.
Men do bad things.
Totally granted.
But do you think, though, it's fair for women, based off of their bad experiences with men, what they've heard from other women, whatever it is, what society is telling them, do you think it's fair that they pick bear over men because of their own experiences or the experiences of other women?
I would argue that it's fair because they're not actively impeding men from any type of thing.
They're just changing their own behavior to protect themselves against having the same experience again.
So it's not like it's a matter of sexism against men in which they can't get jobs or interact in which way they're just choosing to take a different path.
Okay, well, let's do a little thought experiment then.
Let me ask this.
Let's say there's a white person who either themselves or has known people who have been assaulted by a black person.
They also see news stories and belong to online groups, and their TikTok algorithm feeds them stories about black-on-white crime.
Because of their safety concerns, they're scared of black people.
They believe all black people have the capacity for violence or assault of some kind, et cetera, et cetera.
Would you say that this is a racist position to hold?
It's an ignorant one, yeah.
Ah, then surely it must be if it's racist, surely the position, and should we fight against racism?
We should always fight against racism bad.
Okay, sexism bad.
Ah, so why are we doing all this coping for women as it relates to their sexism towards men?
So how a woman feels about her safety is just sexist to you, right?
How we've been raised in the world and how we view safety.
I think if you're painting with a broad, broad brush that you would rather be in the forest with a wild animal than with a random man, knowing that the majority, hold on, knowing that the majority of men are good men who would never lay a finger.
So are bears.
The majority of bears are good too.
Wait, what?
Bears are good?
That doesn't even, hold on.
Bears are good.
Bears just have instinct.
Not to kill people.
A bear wasn't born thinking they're going to kill people.
They're thinking they're going to kill fish.
How would that relate to my argument?
So how about you contend with the actual argument here?
So again, if I'm saying it's racist, though, but I'm also saying it would be racist to pick bear over black person.
I think that that would be racist.
But you guys won't concede that it's sexist to pick bear.
Just say you're sexist.
Okay.
I mean.
Or you just have a double standard.
It's not true.
How is it not true?
It's just not.
This is cognitive dissonance exhibit A.
So if it is, I'm just literally using your same logic.
If a white person has fears over their safety, just like you said when it comes to women over their safety.
And let's see, I mean, can a woman be irrational?
Can a white person be irrational?
Could this fear be irrational?
Perhaps it must, if it is sexist, it surely then too must, or excuse me, if it is racist, it surely must then too be sexist.
Do you disagree?
I don't believe that it's sexist, no.
You don't think.
Okay, so hold on.
Is it racist, the picking the bear over the black person?
I'm not answering it.
You're not answering it because you know the answer reveals.
No, it's just not right.
It's not, it's not, I'm not doing that.
It's just blow.
It's, it's, ah, so just to be clear, it's okay.
It's okay to make this analysis of men, but when it comes to race, not okay.
I'm not going to touch that topic now.
I'm not asking you to be okay.
Because I'm not racing.
I'm sure.
No, but I'm sure you would agree.
Like, would you be?
You're saying a person and you're not saying a man.
You're saying a person, black person.
That's why I don't know.
I love your justification of sexism towards men.
This is great.
This is wonderful.
So me personally, if I was given the option between a black person and a bear, I'm picking the black person.
I'd prefer to be whether it's a man, whether it's a woman.
Right, because you're a man.
You've never had to feel the way a woman feels about being alone with a man she doesn't know.
I've been the victim of a violent crime.
So I know, yeah, I'm fine making this determination.
Even if I wasn't the victim of a violent violent crime, we're not talking about violent crime.
We're talking about sexual abuse in this case.
Yeah, men can also be victims of SA.
Right.
Wait, have you ever had, have you ever, are you pro-choice or pro-life?
I'm pro-choice.
So a woman who's never had an abortion, can she have a position on abortion?
A woman who's never had one?
A woman who's never been pregnant, never had an abortion.
Is she allowed to have an opinion on abortion?
Yes.
Okay, cool.
So I'm a man.
I'm allowed to have an opinion on something.
Right, and so am I. Huh?
And I'm a woman.
We're all allowed to have opinions, period, on anything.
Yeah, but you just tried to dismiss my opinion because I'm a man.
In what way?
The way you just did.
You said, well, you don't know how it is to be.
And then you Goalpo shifted.
And I was like, I've actually been victim of a violent crime before.
But then, oh, well, I was talking about SA.
Okay, well, so?
Just because, like, so in order to have a position or opinion on something, you must have gone through said dilemma.
Like, I think starving children in Africa, that's a bad thing.
I think that that's.
It helps when you've been through it, yeah.
I mean, I've been hungry, but I haven't been a starving child in Africa.
I think starving children in Africa is a bad thing.
Am I not allowed to think that?
Most women in this country and almost in the world have had that happen to them.
So, some form of sex essay.
Sure, I'll go.
I mean, there's disputes as to the incidence rate of that crime.
I'll go ahead and grant it for the sake of the conversation.
So, what does that have to do with the argument at hand?
That every woman I've talked to has been through that, including myself.
You know what?
Here, I'll even grant 100%.
Every single woman has been brutally gang graped.
How would that, what does that have to do with the argument at hand?
Bad thing happened to woman.
Okay, cool.
I get it.
What does that have to do with the argument at hand?
I'm still not answering the question about the bear person.
You don't want to answer it because it would reveal your just blatant man-hating and sexism.
It's not man-hating.
It literally is.
Man-hating is crazy.
How is that?
Everybody at this table but you know that.
You're a man-hater.
I'll reframe it again.
If I pick bear over black person, does that mean that I hate black people?
Would that point towards racism or hatred of black people?
No, no, no.
Well, you know what?
It might not point towards hatred, but you would agree that it's racist.
I would agree that it's racist.
Okay.
But I do think that she's just saying that you can't really speak on what women feel because you're not a woman.
That's what she's saying.
She's not saying that because you're.
Why do I need a uterus to have an opinion on something?
Just like we don't understand your what you go through.
It's like trying to.
You're trying to get us to view your head just earlier with the jiu-jitsu.
Men view this way.
You don't know how men think.
Okay.
You don't know how women think.
Men and women think differently doesn't make you sexist.
But it kind of does.
Then you're sexist too.
How would that be sexist?
Your whole podcast is sexist.
Why is it sexist?
You literally come on here.
You literally come on here to try to provoke women on purpose with all these questions.
I'm happy to define sexist.
No, that's totally fine.
I'm happy to dive into that.
Can you define sexism for me, though, first?
We only got like 10 minutes.
What?
Minutes of what?
We only got to.
Stop.
Stop.
No, we got more time than that.
We're going late.
Yeah, I didn't ask you.
How do you define sexism?
Sexism is to be like mistreated in the workplace, honestly.
Like if you're not getting the same rights as a man, I think that's sexist.
Ah, okay.
So your definition.
Okay, I see.
So sexism can only impact women?
Like, you can't be sexist towards men, is what you're saying?
You can, but.
But what?
It's not in terms of safety reality.
Like, it's different than men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
So men absolutely.
Okay, but you know, you're talking about violent crime.
So we're not talking about essays.
We're also not talking about essay.
It's sexist.
Well, also, it's kind of convenient if the definition of grape makes it impossible for it to be something that can happen to a man.
It's not impossible.
Yeah.
Based off the definition, depending on the framing, yeah, it can be impossible for it to be something that can be done to a man.
So of course it's going to affect the statistics that feminists espouse if it can't be actually something that's done to a man.
What do you mean?
Of course a man can be graped.
There are specific jurisdictions where based on the definition of the actual crime of grape.
It is impossible for a man to be victim of the crime.
A woman can't grape for you can make some arguments, stronger arguments as it pertains to like if a man grapes another man, but like specifically there are jurisdictions where like a woman could not legally like definitionally then that's wrong.
It's absolutely impossible.
Well then that's wrong.
Just because that's how it is doesn't mean it's not use all the stat, all the stats related to that doesn't.
Just because something is the way it is doesn't make it right.
So let's say it should definitely be illegal for a woman to do that to a male.
So it is a crime, whether they like to say it or not.
Yeah, but it's not categorized as grape, it's categorized as like a essay.
So that's wrong.
Okay, so anyways, how you define sexism well, I mean, that's a great example.
That's what's a?
What do you mean?
What's a great example?
It's if it graping a man by a woman.
I'm not looking for examples of sexism.
I'm looking for your definition of sexism to be discriminatory towards a man, like.
Well, I would say it can apply to men or women, obviously.
So you have to be discriminatory.
Okay, you said this podcast is sexist.
How do you define sexism?
I mean, you come on here to tear apart a lot of things that women believe in themselves about like.
So you think it's sexist to tell a woman that she's like not a 10, for example.
It's sexist to say that not every like.
There's no tens in this world.
That wouldn't be.
That wouldn't be sex.
I could say if, if that was like a blanket, I guess that wouldn't be sexist, that would be like your opinion.
I mean, I would say that I think sexism is just men and women, but treating someone unfairly based on being sexist, male or okay okay, let's take, let's take that definition, treating people unfairly based on their sex, so that applies to men and women.
So do you, do you agree that?
Um, you hold a view that we should acknowledge and defend and enforce the violation of rights?
Yes, anyone say, does anyone disagree with the statement we should acknowledge and defend and enforce the violation of rights?
Yes, we should okay, we should okay.
So, in order to do that, isn't it, isn't it the case that that relies wholly on the collective of men to do that, that that couldn't happen with the collective of women?
So you're saying women can't change things in the world.
That's right.
Collectively, yes.
When it comes to force and enforcement, you couldn't collectively get a group of women to enforce or remove rights, but a collective of men could do it right.
It's sexist to say that.
Yeah, that's a sexist thing to say that women couldn't change.
Well no, it's descriptive.
Well, it's descriptively true that you, as women, rely on collectively, men to defend and enforce the violation of rights.
That's like saying Rosa Parks did nothing.
Women can change what what?
I just literally reset my Nintendo?
Um, isn't it the case that the let's, so let's take it simple okay, rights themselves, the violation of rights, requires an enforcement arm, right?
So if you violate someone's rights, a group, Group of men with muscle and guns, come in and take you away, correct?
And let's make it simple with crayons.
Right?
Okay, group of men taking you with guns.
What?
Mumbling out.
I said okay.
Okay, so if that's the case, the appeal to rights itself supposes a discriminatory expectation and obligation for men collectively that doesn't apply to women.
So to believe in rights and to advocate for rights, women's rights, the fact that you rely wholly on a collective of men to enforce those rights and the violation of such is sexist.
You're discriminatory toward men to do that for you.
Why?
Because you guys can't do it yourself collectively.
Are you sexist?
What makes you say that?
What makes I say that?
What kind of question is that?
What kind of question is that?
The way you talk to women is also degrading.
Like you're talking to us.
Yeah, tone policing.
I mean, it's just tone policing, but.
Oh, so you literally address nothing I said.
None of what I said just went through your little brain.
Is there anyone on the panel who understands what I just said?
Sometimes it's harder than being rude to understand with that tone of voice.
Tone policing.
Anyone?
That's answering the question.
Chair one, do you understand what I just said?
Yes.
Can you give it back to me?
Because I honestly think no one else on the panel can.
I'm sorry.
But go ahead.
I do believe that other women on this panel could give it back to you.
But since you asked me, I will.
You're saying that in order to have power, there needs to be an enforcing arms so that women need men to enforce their rights.
Otherwise, the rest of men will proceed to take them away and vice versa that women don't have that systemic ability.
So women need men in order to give them their rights because they cannot form, like all women cannot overpower all men.
Beautiful.
Is that discriminatory?
I'm not making a judgment about the discrimination, by the way.
I'm just asking you, is that discriminatory?
No, that's not discriminatory.
That's just based in facts.
It's just based in facts.
So the fact is that there's a delineation, a clear distinction between men and women in regards to what they are, how they are, what they're capable of.
And for people to even claim sexism either way, right?
There's no way of escaping this problem.
That men and women are different.
Even if you point to some sort of weird exception to the rule, for the most part, I don't think I could have put it better myself than Chair One.
She gave it back perfectly.
Descriptively, it's the case that women rely on men and assume the obligation of collective men to protect their rights.
But they don't assume that for women.
Now, how is it related to the bear thing?
It is related because Brian, you know, as high effort as he tried to do with you guys, he drew out this problem, this double standard you guys have with the bear and another statistical element of race and crime.
You guys couldn't engage with it.
So we're going to skip to the male-female thing.
Is it sexist to assume and expect protection from men?
Is it sexist to assume that and expect it from men, but you don't expect it from women?
Just silence, just dead, just like a It's like a fucking It's like a, it's like a It's like a It's like a meditation retreat right now.
I mean, I think the way it has to be taken is they're just essentially conceding the point.
If they're not willing to forward an actual argument or counter-argument, then they're just going to have to cede the point.
But I will, I do want to kind of get a little further into this.
So you said the podcast is sexist.
We kind of went back and forth on the definition of sexism.
Why don't you articulate how the podcast is sexist?
It seems just like a typical red pill.
Yeah.
What is that?
Give me an example of that.
Just like guys attacking women.
Yeah, give me a specific, give me an example.
Like shutting us down, things like that.
Like you, it's your argument or nothing.
Like there's no winning for us, no matter what we say.
We're challenging your worldview.
Do you think challenging?
wait it's almost it's challenging it's fine but it's like to challenge a woman is to be sexist It's one thing to challenge an opinion or a viewpoint.
It's another thing to have your mind set in stone that where you can't change it.
Usually when you go into an argument or debate, one person is willing to change their mind at some point or at least be open to hearing a new point of view.
That wouldn't make you sexist.
If you go into an argument refusing to changing your mind, most people go into a position.
It's just closed-minded.
Like I'm just fine.
I'll go ahead and agree that it could be closed-minded.
Okay, sure.
Then we'll just say it is a closed-minded.
Yeah, it's a great goalpost shift, but I'm still waiting to hear an example of how the podcast is sexist.
I tried to give you one, but it's not.
It's not good enough.
That was my, that was my.
So how is it sexist?
That was my input right there.
What I just said.
That we challenge your worldview?
It's not challenging the worldview.
We literally, you just, when we go into something, it feels like because we're, you know, we're all women, we're saying you're saying something, we're saying something.
Sorry, go ahead.
Go ahead.
And you just, you don't want, you wouldn't be able to have your mind changed at all by any of us, right?
It's only your way or the highway.
So I feel like that's a little sexist.
How would that be sexist?
Because you won't allow a woman to show you anything new.
Hold on.
So if about how they feel, like if it was a man in your position espousing the exact same viewpoints, I would challenge them all the same.
Right, but I can put myself in your shoes.
You won't put yourself in our shoes.
I would make the same argument that you haven't conceded anything.
No, you told me, how would you feel, you know, if like, you know, when you're grappling, you see your girl grappling with a guy, right?
In your head, you're saying guys think a certain way and they're firing off in their brain.
It's all close and sexual and they're getting sexual intrusion thoughts, right?
So that's how men perceive it, right?
You perceive it as, well, a man is just going to think all these impulsive thoughts.
And as a woman, how would that be sexist?
But could I?
Right.
No, it's a, and then I'm saying as a woman, I think the same way about running into a man like you do.
I think, oh, he could do this, he could do that.
And then you think the same way as, oh, well, this and that could happen.
It's the probability.
Whereas like if you go into a nightclub and you're saying a woman's going to get hit on it, it's not because if you go into, you don't feel as comfortable one-on-one with a man alone as a woman.
And just like you wouldn't want your girl in the club because all these things could happen.
It's the same kind of concept.
You're like saying that we're not allowed to have these opinions and feelings.
It's not sexist to have these opinions and feelings.
Just like you have, as a man, these opinions and feelings about other men in the club, like and about women.
So when a woman goes in, your dynamic is that she can't handle being hit on by all these people.
So.
Sorry.
I mean, it's not an equivalent, this preference.
And also, I listed out multiple other reasons as to why it's an issue for me.
But I don't see that that mapping on one-to-one.
I do.
In any case, you're saying there's a double standard that exists.
I haven't yet heard an actual example of how the show or how I or how Jim Bob is sexist.
You can say we're mean.
You can say we're jerks.
You can say we're closed-minded.
Okay, then we'll go with closed.
Okay, so you're walking back to sexist.
Okay.
All right.
It's ridiculous.
And I just want you to know that I think you're sexist.
Okay.
So there you have it, folks.
There you have it.
I need to read these chats here.
Let's see.
Lucas, their protestations, notwithstanding, the entire panel is nothing more than a cadre of man-hating feminism.
Unfortunately for them, the only byproduct of this dogmatic man-hatred is to foment, to which he responds, real and actual misogyny, which, if you haven't noticed, is becoming more and more prevalent.
But hey, keep on spouting off your feminist vapid prattle.
You sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind.
Oh my goodness.
Shakespeare.
God dang, Lucas.
That was beautiful.
That was beautiful.
Oh, Rachel Wilson.
If I was making the same argument as Jim Bob, you wouldn't call them sexist.
He is objectively right.
You are objectively arted.
That's from Rachel Wilson.
Yikes.
Good times.
Good talk.
Good talk.
Okay.
Thank you, Rachel.
W. Here, Rachel gets the pass on the chair two.
Brian and Jim Bob are factually correct and logical.
There are rules to debate.
You have failed to make a coherent argument.
They are correct.
Just stick to being cute.
You're not cut out for thinking.
Do you want to respond to that?
That's a real woman profile.
No, that's Rachel.
We've had her on the show.
That's Rachel Wilson.
Oh, I guess.
Okay.
All right.
I'm sorry, Rachel.
I'm going to Rachel Wilson.
She says you're not cut out for that.
That's hilarious.
She said you're so funny.
Yeah, I mean, she can think whatever she wants.
Dollars in 100.
Yes.
Nothing, more money.
Rachel.
If a bear came into the studio, I would 100% rock back to you.
Christopher makes a good point here.
Debates and arguments are not meant to change the interlocutors' minds.
Usually it's for the audience.
Yeah.
Anyways, okay.
That was an interesting exchange.
Sorry, Jim Bob, did you were you saying something?
Or I'm not sure if he was like trying to get myself.
I was asking my chat who's going to pay for my brain injury.
It's a good one.
It's a good.
Yeah.
I think the women here should step up.
We've got a lot of boss babes here, so the boss babes should step up and pay for his.
You're such a gaslighter.
The way you say that.
Oh my god, baby.
I'm so excited.
I don't know.
Just like, no, it's just going out.
Excuse me, Prince.
I'm sorry, Princess.
We were talking about bears and guys for so long.
I know.
The bear thing.
Tell me you weren't bored about that.
Like, that was so.
Oh, I loved it.
That was beautiful.
It was so great.
I was so.
Tell me what you want to talk about.
Whatever's next on the list.
Let's see.
No, what do you tell us?
What do you want to talk about?
Whatever is next on the list.
Like, I don't know.
That was just boring.
Well, she wants some male leadership to come in.
She wants the male.
Thank you so much.
She can't offer up.
Oh, I'd like to talk about this.
I literally looked to the man.
Okay, that's fine.
I get it.
I'm fine with that.
I get it.
Based housewife over here wants the man to do all this.
Why are you hating on?
I'm not hating on the woman.
You just want her to be a housewife.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I said I wanted to be a stay-at-home mom.
Okay, fine.
Base, submissive housewife over here.
Okay, great.
All right.
That is a compliment.
Is it?
Is it being called the housewife sexist?
Texas.
Good talk.
Okay.
I don't know if there's anything in the question.
By the way, chat, there's some really good pre-show notes that we got to get to, but I kind of want to just get through the questionnaire.
Honestly, though, I feel like none of you are going to.
Hold on, wait.
I might have some opinions about some of the things that I saw on the questionnaire.
I mean, you only have a few agrees on here.
So let me just.
Okay, so here, I'm going to do Samantha.
You agree men are not physically stronger than women.
I put not.
I put agreed for that.
Yeah, you.
I'm sorry.
Were you two steps?
All right.
Okay, so I guess that was.
I just saw you circle that, and I was like, okay.
You also said a man dating a transgender woman is straight.
I feel like, did they get the surgery?
Did they get the surgery?
Did you go ahead and grant that the trans woman has a neo-vagina?
So then it's a girl, right?
Since it has a vagina?
No.
Technically.
That's not pussy.
What are you talking about?
That's not pussy.
That's a wound.
That's a wound.
That's like open a hole in my armpit and calling it a vagina.
You couldn't stick your dick in it.
Wait, so if I just drilled a hole into my armpit, is that a vagina?
Maybe if it's on your penis and just like that makes it a vagina.
You can drill it inside and make it into a vagina.
As somebody who's so sick.
You're so sick.
You're welcome.
I'm sorry, that's not pussy.
Next question.
That's not pussy.
It ain't pussy.
Oh, no.
Sometimes they'd be like, pussy's pussy.
Like, I don't know.
And sometimes their like reconstructive, reconstructive vagina surgery looks pretty good.
I don't know.
Are you just googling like transcripts?
I've seen it.
I've seen it when you like look at plastic surgery.
You know, there's like the shit ain't pussy.
I've not encountered it in real life, but I can.
What if, what if, okay, what if, what if, what if the trans didn't tell you they lay?
Oh, that's a sex crime for sure.
That's a transparent.
Yeah, I think that's a play.
Maybe you might not just know.
You don't know.
Tell somebody.
Don't be a player hater.
Look, if I look, if I implant a bunch of fake muscles, am I a bodybuilder?
Yeah, you're hot too.
That'd be hot.
No.
No, that's so funny.
You didn't even ask that.
She was ready.
You can smile.
Like, I know it felt nice.
That feels nice.
No, you know what I'm saying?
No, I don't.
There's no buddy.
I'm probably fine with laughing over there.
I just think about how you guys vote, and it's like you cancel out.
Oh, my God.
Now we're talking about low beauty.
Oh, no.
Oh, shit.
Here we go with the vote.
Who did you vote for?
No, I.
Oh.
She's 18.
She voted for a while.
I wasn't 18.
Who would you have voted for?
I don't follow politics.
No, I don't.
She's a Kamala voter, right?
No.
Yeah, okay.
It's all right.
Really?
It's a powerful woman.
It's okay to not say those things.
Okay, good talk.
Honestly, there's really nothing.
You guys are, no offense.
Boring?
You got the bear question was pretty.
Boring.
Boring on the bottom.
I would have rather been dragged by the bear.
This is really interesting.
We have tweets.
So, Quentin, we're going to pull up the tweets from your hair.
And I got to be honest, it's fucked up.
We that's so fun.
But here's what we're going to do when I pull it up.
Twitter's buddy.
It's off her jokes.
Nothing serious.
When we pull it up, you got to read it.
You're going to read the voice that you would have been telling me.
I love her today.
Oh, fuck.
Hey, I got it.
Can I read one of them?
Just to be funny.
So, did you hear what Max said?
You're going to read it in the void.
Like, not just.
that's what i said i have to read it in the voice of how i meant it in that energy in the energy let's go um you got it hopefully hopefully the the tweets okay perfect Here goes.
Go ahead and read it.
Oh, yeah.
It said, men are supposed to be providers.
I don't know what the fuck is wrong with these new ones.
Like, I don't know what the fuck's wrong with you.
Don't worry, guys.
I don't know where it heats up a little bit.
I want to start with this one, though, because, wait.
Question for the panel: Is it okay to say men should?
Men should be ex.
Men should be providers.
Men should be, is that okay?
Yeah.
Is it also okay to say women should?
Yeah.
Yep.
Women should make me a sandwich.
Is that okay?
Yep.
I'm away.
Quinton.
Your man is on all of my men.
Quinton.
Opinions are good.
I'm making it real tea.
We need you on the ones and twos, but we need you on the ones and twos.
You should get a little webcam for when he wants to chime in.
They have it on it, but so women should cook.
Women should clean.
Women should be submissive.
Women should be virgins.
We got just an opinion.
Should have, coulda, would have kept, but I can't.
Definitely bargain.
Barbing gone with everybody.
But are you, are you okay with all those?
Yeah.
You guys are okay with all those?
Yes, yes.
Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean I have to agree with it.
You could say should, like, it's just an opinion.
But it's interesting.
Women are like, across the board, seem really fine with shoulds as it pertains to men.
But the moment you start putting shoulds on women, you might.
We just all said we're okay with it.
Yeah.
None of us even disagree with that.
I just said just an opinion.
I don't know if you agree with your opinion, but you could still have it.
Like, you can still have your opinion.
Wait, tell me where you're shooting.
Why are you saying you don't necessarily agree?
So what do you agree with then?
That you can have an opinion.
That's okay.
No, but are you agreeing with my opinion?
What was your opinion?
That women should make you sandwiches?
Women should cook.
Women should clean.
If the man is providing, right?
Women should be submissive and women should be virgins or like low body count non-promiscuous.
This is based off of the man is also in the same, like, he's in his role too.
Sure, I'll go ahead and say it has to go both ways.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Okay.
But like, he wants to argue so bad.
He wants to argue so bad.
But he's all turned up a little bit.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Really quick, really quick.
So all of, so men should pay on first dates, number three.
Taylor, you say you agree.
Carly, you agree.
Samantha, you agree.
Marie, you agree.
Men should pay on first dates.
Lily, you didn't circle anything.
I disagree with that.
You disagree with everything.
Okay, that's fine.
Mac, you did not say men should pay for first dates.
Ruby, you said whoever asked the person on the date.
Oh, my goodness.
I disagree with that.
Yeah, she also.
So, I've never been on a date, so she also said she only had brothers.
Right.
Are you all traditional women?
No.
Not traditional, not traditional.
Maybe you're traditional.
Yeah, I feel like I'm pretty kind of feminine.
Well, I'm like modern, traditional, I feel like.
No, I am.
Like, I have like opinions, but I still know traditional.
Are those all the tweets you had for her?
She had more.
No, we got more.
We got more.
But really quick, I do want to briefly, and Jimbob, I'll let you come in just a sec.
I want to briefly address that.
Like, well, whoever asked should pay.
Let's do an experiment.
Going around the table, of all the first dates or hangouts, it doesn't have to be like a date, but first dates, first hangout you've had with a guy.
And let's assume maybe it was, this would imply there was food or a restaurant or some sort of activity.
Who paid for it?
Starting with you, Ruby.
On a date?
Or sorry, who asked for it?
Excuse me.
Who asked for the first date or the first hangout?
Typically, it's the guy who asks for the first for your experience.
In my experience, based on my experience, it's the guy who asks.
And have you asked guys out?
No.
You've never asked a guy out?
How many first dates have you been on?
I don't know.
10, 20, 30, 40, 50.
Not 50.
Not 50.
Probably 100.
Not 30.
Is that a compliment?
Sure.
I thought it was a compliment.
Just because you're on dates doesn't mean you sleep with them.
So didn't say that.
Okay, 10.
And all 10 of those dates the guy asked?
Yeah.
What about you?
So you've been on the edge.
I was literally on one date, and it was with the one that I said had the girlfriend.
Yeah.
Okay.
I paid for my ice cream.
Okay, fair enough.
What about you?
I think men don't have to pay on the first date.
No, but so of all the first dates you've been on, who asked for the date?
You were usually the man.
Usually the guy.
Sometimes I did, maybe once or twice.
You've done it a couple times.
What about you?
Usually the guy asks.
Have you ever asked a guy out?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Both ways.
I've asked 50-50.
I've asked guys out for on a date and they've asked me out on a date.
Yeah, I acknowledge that women ask about first dates.
Oh, like who asked or who paid?
No, who's doing the asking, generally?
Oh, generally a guy's.
Generally the guy?
What about you?
Guys.
Have you ever asked a guy out?
No.
On a date?
How many first dates have you been on?
Quite a few.
Probably like...
Dozens.
Yeah, I've been on a lot of dates, yeah.
Yeah, that's fine.
I'm not judging.
I'm not implying that you've slept with them.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Probably the minority of first dates you've been on, you slept with them.
What?
The minority.
Have I slept with them on first dates?
I'm sorry.
Did you say I have or haven't?
I'm saying it's never mind.
It doesn't matter.
What about you?
Never asked a guy on a date.
Never asked a guy on a date?
No.
You've been asked out a whole bunch, I'm imagining.
Yeah.
Okay.
So this whoever asks should pay thing conveniently ignores the fact women don't ask men out.
Men have to be the initiators.
Men are the ones who are initiating.
Men have to ask women out.
Men have to make the first move.
Granted, occasionally women will ask, but most men's experience is they have to be the asker.
They overwhelmingly don't get asked out.
So it's kind of just convenient.
I would agree, whoever asks should pay would make sense if men and women asked each other out at similar frequencies.
Yeah, that makes sense.
But when I was like in kind of in that like relationship-ish thing, whenever I would like ask to go out, I would pay for him.
Okay.
Really?
I would.
W for him, I guess.
I guess.
He's 18 and looks like a very sweet girl.
Yes.
She would definitely pay for somebody.
Jimba, I'm going to let you in here just a sec.
Clay.
Clay.
I donated $200.
Brian, you got to start doing IQ tests for your panel.
What is the speed of gravity?
What gets wetter as it dries?
Both easy answers.
I haven't been around flying a lot.
Yo.
Stuck in Manhattan tonight.
Yo, Clay, thank you for the TTS, man.
Really appreciate it.
Good to see you in the chat.
That's, yeah.
What gets?
Wait, what is the speed of gravity?
Anybody?
Light speed.
I don't know.
Light speed?
Have gravity or whatever?
I have no clue.
Gravity is light speed.
I don't know.
Wait, what is it?
Can you tell me?
Yeah.
What is it?
Anybody?
Anyone?
Wait, can you tell me?
We don't know.
Any guessers?
Any guessers at the table?
I don't know.
Gravity has speed.
What gets wetter as it dries?
I'm going to be honest.
I don't know this fucking.
I don't know the budget.
Yeah, wait, let me think about it, though.
I didn't really think about it.
What gets wetter?
Clouds.
As it dries.
Please.
Maybe.
Damn, bro.
That's some abstract.
I'm just on your own podcast.
Just too low IQ.
I gotta kick myself off the podcast.
What gets wetter as it dries?
Pussy?
Wait, what?
Sorry, I didn't say that.
Never mind.
That'd be some weird pussy.
What gets wetter as it tries?
Does anybody know?
That's like a sponge, like something that like fucking claim here with a sponge.
I don't know.
I'm like trying to, I don't know.
That'll be clouds.
No, definitely not a trick.
Jim Bob, do you know the answer?
What gets wetter as it dries?
Wait, ask him to Google it.
Wait, that's just like saying a sponge.
As it tries.
This guy probably feels so smart for saying that to us.
Yeah, he's probably always fucking idiots.
That's so weird.
Damn, that's crazy.
That's why you send you a dollar's podcast.
Here, I'll read Lucas's really quick.
I know.
Chair two, you're weak, sniveling, and putrid.
I engage in adversarial negotiations with female attorneys daily.
And yes, I am an attorney.
Oh my God, this fucking Giga Chat here attorney is a brave and a decent man.
He's a pioneer.
Toughen up, buttercup.
The world is not obligated to coddle your worldview.
Do you want to respond to a little bit?
Yes.
Inside.
Internally.
Internally, okay.
Just kidding.
You look very stoic.
You're very stoic tonight.
I know.
Lucas's, it dropped a lot of money.
Jim Bob, I know you wanted to jump in there on something a couple minutes ago.
Well, there were two things.
I was interested in more of Cardi B minus's tweets, but also I wanted to ask a question about the asking men out versus women asking or men asking women out.
Do you guys think it's more attractive from women's perspective that men take risks than it is from attractive from a man's perspective that women take risks?
No.
Okay, go ahead.
They don't want Jim Bob.
They don't attack.
Sorry, I was thinking about the towel.
They don't, Jim Bobby.
They don't want the smoke.
They know you're too early and then I didn't hear the rest.
Whatever crayons, like a crayon board.
Okay, do you think that women are more attractive to risk takers than men are attractive to risk takers?
I would have loved it.
Yeah, I'm more attracted to Lizzie.
I'm more attractive to risk takers than men are attracted to female risk takers.
Sure, yeah, yeah.
So it makes sense that men being leaders, that they would be the ones taking the risk, being that their attractiveness rests on them risking failing in front of people, right?
Asking a woman out.
Whereas it's not the same in reverse.
So it's not like this equalized thing where it could be either way.
Well, I'm fine with women asking men out too.
Well, it just so happens to be the case that the normal typical interaction is that the man takes the risk, right?
Yeah.
I wouldn't say it's so much as a risk.
I would just say it's like that's how I was raised.
It doesn't seem like it's a risk.
It's a risk.
You can actually get.
I mean, back in my day, you would actually risk walking up to a girl and asking them out and being rejected publicly in front of people.
Okay.
Like that was the risk, right?
Okay.
But we wouldn't expect that in reverse, right?
Because the attraction of the woman to the man who's taking the risk is not reciprocated equally.
A man is not attracted when a woman takes a risk.
We're not like, oh, she's such a man.
That would just be a gay dude, right?
So I just wanted to make sure that the panel understood that the descriptive reality, it makes sense that men are the ones who are actually approaching the women, courting the women, that it's actually descriptively accurate and proper that they do that, as opposed to the reverse.
It kind of doesn't make sense for the woman to engage with the man as if they are the man, right?
We're distracted.
We're really distracted right now.
What happened?
What happened over there?
Sorry, Jim Bob.
Freaking Felicity here just said.
It doesn't matter.
I'd get the same response.
Violently attacked me.
It's ridiculous.
Wait, where is it?
I don't know.
Wait, what are you looking for?
Can we see the next tweet?
I was just looking at this tweet.
I liked that tweet.
Damn, Felicity, what the fuck?
Wait, what'd she do?
What happened?
Yo, go buy some octopus, Felicity.
You're going to eat an entire octopus or something.
Okay, or squid or whatever.
Sorry, Jim Bob.
I don't know.
You know what it is, Jim Bob?
You're so.
You're Super Saiyan right now.
Oh, and he's not Super Saiyan.
They're stuck back in the fucking Saiyan saga, dude.
You're fucking.
You're not just like glazing.
The Namek saga.
Wait, is it called the Namek saga?
No, bro.
You're in the Majin Boo saga.
You're in the Boo saga, and you're like fucking Gotanks and you're like Super Saiyan level three and shit.
Wait, Gotanks?
Yeah, Gotanks.
Fucking Trunks and Goten combined and shit.
And fucking, these chicks are stuck.
No, bro, it's even before the Saiyan saga.
They're fucking Raditz.
They're on some Raditz fucking level shit.
I don't know if he's being a little rude right now.
Guys, he's being rude.
All right.
No.
They're on some fucking Saiyan saga chow tzu.
Y'all on some chow tzu shit.
You're boo when he's over here like fucking Majin Boo here.
And you guys are on some fucking chow tzu.
Oh, let me let me jump on Nappa and fucking self-destruct.
And he's fucking Nappa fucking self-destruct fucking on Nappa.
Oh, nothing happens.
And then those little Zarbon fucking things.
You guys are on some Zarbon fucking bullshit.
Zarbon, this guy's operating at fucking Super Saiyan level four from DBZ Dragon Ball GT, which isn't canon.
Dragon Ball GT because they went back and they're like, damn, this was dog shit.
Fuck GT.
Let's forget about GT with the like the weird red and the fucking.
She knows what I'm talking about.
No, I don't.
She's laughing because she has no idea what you're talking about.
You're making a lot of fun.
I was like, do I look like I'm watching Dragon Ball Z?
I do like anime as well as an Dragon Ball Z fan.
Jim Bob is just operating.
His power level is.
Hold on.
Let me.
His power level is like blinding.
Is that what you're trying to say?
I guess we're not.
Your intelligence is based off of Dragon Ball Z, though.
Yes.
That's crazy.
I don't.
It makes sense that you watch anime.
Let me explain this shit, right?
Okay.
Look.
Hold on.
Here, put it.
All right.
Wait, that's so corny.
Fucking.
Your power level's pretty good.
You know, like power level five, power level five, Get the hell out of here.
All right, listen.
What did I do?
What did I do?
Are we talking like physically or mentally?
And then, hold on.
I would argue I'm the strongest physically at this table.
No, no, I don't mean like I mean mental power.
Oh, okay.
I don't want to talk about this.
It's like, but here's the thing.
It's kind of like, and Jim Bob over here, though, he's like, where the fuck?
Sorry, guys.
What the fuck?
Damn, am I?
That's a dope.
Wow, this is really embarrassing.
Good.
Where the fuck is it, bro?
I broke it.
It's the headset for me.
She was like, I got the ig.
This is so good.
Oh, here.
It's over 9,000.
Bro, that was like 10 seconds.
It took way too long.
You would have landed earlier.
I'm fucking out of here, boys.
Are you going to wear that the rest of the time?
You have to know.
Yeah, I'm going to wear it.
You look really cute.
You should wear that when you argue with me.
You put on the hat.
Put that on.
You, Carly, can you wear that hat?
Why do I have to wear that?
It would really bring out the color of your eyes.
Are you sure you want to put that hat on?
Yeah, don't put it on.
No, hey, guys, zip it.
No, Carly, you're going to get clipped.
You're going to get clipped.
Oh my God.
That's not even a clip.
Nobody's going to clip.
No one's going to clip the kid.
Spin the helicopter.
Spin the helicopter.
I tried.
I tried to help you, but you're getting caught in hat on.
You put the fucking hat on so it happened for you.
Whatever.
This is not a clip-worthy moment.
Okay, trust me.
Nobody would clip this.
All right, boys, clip that shit.
Look, all I'm saying is fucking Jimbob here.
It's fucking over.
Can I explain?
Y'all can't compete.
Y'all, some fucking Chow Zoo Zarbomb motherfuckers, and this guy is on some fucking Vegeta shit.
Some fucking gatling gun.
What are these made-up words?
What are you talking about?
You don't know about this?
How do you not know about Dragon Ball Z?
This is like should be taught in fucking schools, bro.
How do you not know?
Like, hello?
Like, hello?
Your IP tests are based off of Dragon Ball Z. That's right.
I administer.
In fact, before I go on a date with the chick, I'm like, tell me how I ask them questions about Dragon Ball.
This is the happiest ever.
Are you into Pokemon?
I wouldn't be able to answer.
This is a high point for you.
Do you play Pokemon Guard?
I'm excited.
No.
No answer.
Okay.
Somebody flick the hat.
I don't think I want to flick it anymore.
I feel like I'm doing something against women's rides by flicking.
There you go.
I felt bad when I flicked it.
Now it's gone on for too long.
It's too much.
I'm sorry, Jimbob.
Whoa, that's really weird.
No, you have to keep it on the rest of the show.
No, just kidding.
Pass it to Felicity.
Wow.
Felicity.
Wow.
Oh, we have Clane here again.
Here we go.
Boom.
One sec, boys.
Oh, we got to do the tweets.
Let's do the tweets.
Okay, we'll get to the tweets.
It didn't look as bad.
Clay donated $200.
Should have been more precise.
Earth gravity is 32 feet per second per second.
But relativity would argue speed of light.
Anything towel gets wet arrayed, dries.
Gonna try to stay for the roast.
Oh, yeah.
You know what?
We will be doing the roast.
We will be doing the roast session.
What is that?
Oh, it's coming.
Oh, no.
Pepper your Angus, ladies.
Pepper your Angus.
Okay, let's do the tweets.
The tweets.
We're going to blast room because we got a lot.
So get ready to read.
How many?
You need some water?
Are you parched?
Drink some water.
Actually, I'll get you some water.
Actually, I'll give you a feeling.
You ready?
Yeah, it's kids.
That looks great.
Okay, let's.
What the fuck?
Read it.
Wait, don't.
Oh, say ninja.
Say ninja.
That's what it's saying.
Okay.
Go ahead, read it.
Into the mic.
I'm the only one here.
Do it quick, though.
It says, ninjas will be fucking you and be like, this, my pussy.
First of all, my man will kill you.
That was funny.
So, oh, it's a joke.
Yeah.
Or, I mean, do you like you do have some multiple men at this point?
I think it's funny.
Like, I think I think it's funny.
It's like guys would be like, oh, this is my pussy.
And then, like, I don't know.
Guys, think it's funny, like, oh, this is my pussy.
But, like, my boyfriend will kill you if he found out I was here.
Oh, you know, yeah.
She belongs to the trees.
Does he follow you on Twitter?
Yeah.
Does he follow you on Twitter?
No, but I know you guys look.
Oh, but my Twitter might be.
I know you're not a natural beauty.
But I think with the right clothes, the right look, you could be very striking.
It's right there.
Okay, cool.
What's the next?
Oh, wait.
Read this?
God damn, bro.
What the fuck?
Oh, men are liars.
That's really sexist of you.
How dare you next?
Next.
Read it.
I miss my man who was never my man for real.
Next.
When your man's friends start hitting you up is when you know it's OV.
Next.
Once.
God damn, bro.
Let's see.
I don't want to see if you guys got the good tweet.
There's some real good ones down there that is good.
I miss my man, but he's mad because I get Whitney, so he could stay mad.
I don't know.
Put your glasses back on This man told me.
You'd like you better than that.
This man told me he's surprised, and I ain't talked to him since.
Are men or women the problem?
You didn't see the two man.
Oh, yeah.
Real bad.
That's why I was like, which ones are they?
Bring them out.
But that was for my Twitter.
Twitter's curse.
I like Twitter, honestly.
I'm on Twitter a lot.
It's the same thing as all of my social media platforms, which is, I don't know.
If I had Twitter, I would follow you just for this.
Next.
If I had a Twitter, I would follow you just for this.
I'm ready to.
I think I'm funny.
Read it.
Oh, man.
I thought I took that down.
Sounds like you bad luck.
It says, I thought I took it down.
Okay, one more game.
Let's see.
Wait, every man you've been with has been shot?
Oh, this is gonna get deep.
The comment was the best one.
Oh, this is gonna get real deep.
Yeah, no.
My son's dad had got killed in a shooting, yes.
And then this guy I was with, I was with him.
Yeah, that's what I was like, this is gonna get deep.
And then I was with this guy, and he got shot.
I was with him.
He got shot six times, but he made it.
Wait, where do you live?
In Arizona.
Were they getting like shot before?
Like, are they getting shot?
Is that the Kardashian curse?
Are you saying?
I didn't want to say it, but I was like, girl, you curse off.
Have they been in any shit before?
I'm all no wife.
Like, I was trying to deduce before I said those words.
I was like, no, no, they weren't.
Or, like, are you shooting them?
I could not point it out.
I was about to ask you.
I was like, were you?
Are you interested?
It's you.
No, I should have shot the other guy.
The one who got shot six times, I should have shot him.
He got shot six times.
Yeah.
He survived that.
Were you fucking 50 cent?
No.
Man, don't put that.
You know what?
He's not getting no clout off.
What?
You don't like it?
Wait, no.
He's not getting no clout off me.
No, no, no.
He's not getting a milk out of me, but my son's dad did.
Hold on, one second.
He had died.
Time to disband ladies.
All right, men hate it when women laugh sometimes.
They were just as mad and happy.
Like, oh no, the job back there.
You gave it $1200 to a bunch of dudes.
I hope your dick is hard as hell right now.
Thank you so much.
That was definitely a response to the girls laughing.
But yeah.
Are you able to grab the next one?
Yeah.
Or I'll let these super chat.
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And then YouTube takes 30%.
That's 51%.
Because it's 30% of the remaining, so it's 51% of the original amount.
Just some math for you guys.
Just some math.
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You ready to go?
Ready to go for the next tweets?
Okay.
Next.
Or read it.
Bro, just please read it quick, though.
It said, this man just had my whole foot in his mouth.
Get the fuck on.
He was trying to talk shit about me.
Like, we weren't just having sex and he had my foot in his mouth.
Next.
I want to call my man right now, but I can't because he's in prison.
He really is.
That's crazy.
Okay.
My homegirl be barking at men in the club.
That bitch be having me dead for real.
Say there's a fine guy walking past.
One of my friends, she'll be like, oh, like literally barking.
Wait, you know what's crazy?
She'll start barking even like it gets attention.
It's dumb.
It's so dumb.
What do you think about that?
Oh, no.
I just thought she.
I just thought she meant like barking as in like a go away.
No, like literally barking.
The family guy bark, like trying to get out a guy, but not in a parking shed.
I don't think I would ever give a man the satisfaction of barking at him.
Think about that forever.
I don't know.
If I want to be argumentative, I would just be like, wow, all the women here just laughed at a man being cat called.
Have you heard about that?
When would the last time?
I thought she would just.
Imagine, like, imagine, like, I didn't think it was cat calling.
That's so easy.
I was like, isn't it funny?
She was born.
She does a lot and she knows it.
Like, that's dumb, but that's dumb.
But imagine that happening.
Imagine you're just walking and someone's like, I think a guy would take a 20-year-old.
Would you like it or not, Brian?
You know you would laugh.
You would probably smile.
You'd be like, this bitch just fucking barked at me.
I'd get a big nice bark.
You either think it was funny or like totally insane.
Like a good nice bark.
Or you would like it.
I would not appreciate a bark.
Yeah.
But you would see the little grin right there.
Yeah, you like little bitch.
You tell your homies, this bitch barked at me last night.
I'd be like, you'd be like, I'd say, what the fuck?
You're also this girl the other day, she barked at me.
Yamcha level.
Say what?
Just Yamcha shit.
Everybody's the chow.
Yamcha.
Fucking TN, some fucking chowsu shit.
Okay.
All right.
Next.
Okay.
Men used to come with offerings from women.
Now they come with nothing to offer.
That's crazy.
You want a guy who makes, what, 150K, 200K?
What did you say?
Only 250,000.
You said 250K.
That's only 250,000.
Only 250,000.
Only 250,000.
That's a lot of money.
In a year?
Is that a lot of money to you?
In a year?
Huh?
It's a lot of money to you.
It doesn't matter whether it's a lot of people.
I just want to know.
Hypothetically, is that a lot of money to you?
Even if I made millions of dollars a year, $250,000 is a lot.
It's a lot.
So, but uh, so how much should we lower our expectations?
I know you don't lie.
You know what I mean?
Like, you're like, that's a lot.
That's a lot.
I don't think that's a lot.
Like, I don't feel that.
I don't.
I mean, it is.
You know what I mean?
Like, it is, but I don't really honestly feel that.
I will overlook.
I almost want to, like, it would have to be legit.
I would pay you $250,000 if you ended up with a dude who makes $250,000.
Oh, easy.
What?
Ring.
You got, but it can't be.
You don't have to have to be married.
But what if I don't want to get married?
The Seeking Arrangement.
You need the ring.
Well, what if we don't want that?
Oh, well, too bad.
Sucks to be.
All right.
You know what, though?
Look, to answer your question, how much do women have to lower their standards?
Fuck tonight.
Don't lower your standards.
I don't think you need to lower their own.
Fuck, ton.
They got to lower their standards.
Y'all, y'all be bring in the least and ask me what?
I think I'm high value.
Girl, I should have a high-value man.
I mean, lose the bangs and then we can talk.
She has bangs too.
Yeah, lose the fucking.
I love my bangs.
I do.
You know what?
You're fired.
But anyway.
Damn, not the second time.
Yo, yo, put that thing back on.
It's hot when you put it on.
Did you break that?
Put it on.
I broke the shit.
I love you.
Okay, come.
I know you're getting a little excited.
I know I am.
I love when you talk Super Saiyan and all that.
What the fuck?
This girl's got some like kink or something for this shit.
I do.
First off, you can't fucking afford me.
You can't afford me.
I'm going to go for girls lower than you.
You're lower class.
Watch what you like.
Is that what you say?
Do you want?
Are you plotting on Brian right now?
It's just getting weird in the studio, boys.
What the fuck?
All the walls.
Earlier you were talking about men taking literally.
She just took a risk, and that's what you're going to do.
Yeah, she took a risk.
She's a misfit.
That was such a risk.
And she had all shots.
Like, it's nice.
There's so many people.
She took that risk.
She just shot at it.
Wow.
This is why women don't take risks.
When that happens, goddamn, what the hell?
You want to touch my caregivers?
No.
That's like some fucking hens clocking in here.
Holy shit, bro.
No, she took a risk.
One person at a time, please.
God damn.
Look, what I'm trying to say is there's hoflation.
Hoflation.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, no, that's a reality.
She sees that shit in the streets.
I'm with all of you.
She sees that shit in the streets, son.
So look.
Here's hoflation.
Hold on, I'll read that.
Wait your turn, lady.
Okay, so check it out.
Put your glasses back on.
You know what?
Put your fucking.
I don't know.
I want you to be stoned together.
Oh, if we could have smoked in here, it would have been lit.
I have my baby.
Can't do it, though.
Can't do it to you.
I'm sorry.
Thank you for sharing those beautiful.
So, anyways, so ho-flation.
Women be expecting the most, but be bringing the less.
It's fucking ho-flation, boys.
Guys, you like the ball.
You don't have to like the hoes.
Chat.
You don't like the hoes?
Huh?
Chat who likes hoes?
If you like hoes, put forward.
Even if it's for a fun time, chat.
Even if it's for a fun, good time.
One night.
Madam Hoes don't like that.
No, literally.
That's great.
That's what they're saying.
Emotional damage.
The red-haired dummy is what Gonoria looks like under a microscope.
The skunk next to her.
Jesus.
You laugh too hard at that, Brian.
What's wrong with you?
Brian!
Be fucking nice.
Take it off the screen.
No.
This is kind of like a bad thing.
You know me in real life.
You know me in real life.
These comedian.
You couldn't even get $200.
Not even a full hundred.
And they only get $30 of it.
You know what this means, though?
So he emotional damage.
What's he saying?
You sent this in.
So if it's 99 cents for super chats, it typically means you sent it in via iOS, iOS, excuse me.
So you sent it on an apple.
Tell send another message, and it can be, it doesn't have to be 100.
You sent it in on the news.
Did you send it in as an iPhone or on an iPad?
Because what happens, if it's 99 cents, that typically indicates you did it on iPhone or iPad on iOS.
YouTube, I don't know if you missed this part, YouTube.
No, sorry, Apple takes 30%.
Apple takes 30%.
Then YouTube comes in, takes another 30%.
You're given $30.
Good job, Doofus.
How dare you?
Wear the hat.
Bear the hat.
How much avid on Cash App.
Send that shit on Cash.
Cash appears $99.99.
Basically.
Or streamlines.
Thank you.
Obviously, you can't listen to direction.
One of the rare Brian laughing moments.
So thank you.
That was good.
Pepe La Pue.
Okay, good song.
That's not cute.
What?
You don't know Pepe Le Pue?
Yeah, like Pepe.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Peppin' Pepe.
Sorry.
Okay, so where were, oh, the tweets.
Okay.
All right, go ahead.
My goodness.
You gotta read it.
When Sexy says she likes her mom better in jail because he's safer, I felt that.
Oh, my gosh.
When my manager was in jail, I felt better that he was over there than in the streets.
This is why I wouldn't let my man out the house.
Men are so stupid.
Wow.
How could you say that?
Like that.
That's racist.
Just like I did.
Next.
No, I ain't shit, and he's still a fucking man in the house, dumb.
That was good.
That was a good one.
I'm going to read English.
No, yeah.
Have him read them.
Oh, my God.
Next one.
Next.
No.
What the fuck does that even mean?
Your coochie Andrew nose?
Oh, good.
Yeah, both.
Yeah.
What does that mean?
Next.
All right.
She's gone.
Men are the worst.
Next.
The worstest.
I don't even know what a pick me is.
What does a pick me, man?
Billy Bob.
Wait, wait, wait.
Men are really going to be busted open when you're on top.
Because, like, imagine when you're on top and a guy's laying his legs are busted open.
I'm like, Dr. David.
They're famous on Twitter.
Men are really bust wide open while you're on top.
That's what it is.
If you think of it, if you think of it when you're on top, look at their legs when they're behind.
They're just like laying there.
That's fucking disgusting.
Right or wrong.
I'm not lying.
That's how it is.
They'd be like, throw them.
Man, what?
My Twitter's already on there.
It's the same thing on Instagram.
You're kind of new, do we?
Okay, next.
Next one.
You have a lot of tweets.
Bro.
I lie in the sale in Chicago and this man pop over there and I'm in the egg bitch and what you trying to pop off at?
We should have started with it.
I did.
I told this guy I was at Chicago and he was like, okay, I'll call you later.
And he ended up coming to Chicago, but I was in Atlanta.
So that was.
Gotcha.
So that was just he was like, he dropped the location.
He's like, I'm in Chicago.
Like, what the fuck, Lola, okay, well, I just got to Atlanta.
Like, it was just like a big thing.
Wait, is it still the same?
Yeah, that's correct.
Wait, I'm over there.
You're in Atlanta.
No, that's from 2021.
Why did you lie to him?
He was trying to.
That's what we do.
We lied.
We lied him in.
No, because he asked me, he asked me where I was.
And I told him that I was in Chicago because that's where it's cool.
He knows people in Chicago.
But then he went out to Chicago.
Yeah, he went to Chicago and I was in Atlanta, so I lied.
But it would have been okay if I was in Chicago, but I wasn't in Chicago.
This is beautiful.
This is like a whole segment called translating ghetto tweets.
What you have to do is be aware of that.
I mean, you're right.
We should do it more often.
I appreciate it.
That was better than the bear.
That was better than the bear.
This is like going off.
And I know the chat is going off.
Wait, so hold on.
Yo, I know.
You know what?
I should, we should.
You haven't even got to the real good ones yet either.
I'm going to do this to a girl.
I'm going to be like, yo, what's up?
I'm in LA.
And then I'm going to have her mead fly out to LA.
I didn't tell him to come to, I didn't tell him to come to.
Touch a bitch.
Clock in fucking Miami.
I didn't tell him to come to Chicago.
I literally did not.
He just came.
Whoa, how do you like that?
He just came.
He literally, he was like.
Oh, he came?
What the fuck?
No, he literally.
Get your mind out of the gutter.
I swear.
Because he asked me.
What's a tweet sound like when you just go to like IKEA one day?
Like, what does that sound like?
Just got a snack.
Mama just got a snack for my kid because they got a bakery right there.
I live in Phoenix.
I live in Phoenix, Arizona.
They have the Ikea that has the bakery.
It's pretty good.
All right.
Let's see what next.
OMG make me laugh or something.
And I started laughing when you shoot her tweets.
Like you went through your whole anime thing, not a giggle.
I didn't get that part either.
Because you suck.
He definitely sucks.
That's great.
Love it.
Wait, so wait, what did it say?
Or what the?
Hey, Jim Bob, read that shit.
What the fuck?
Dash.
Just so you guys know.
Not like for real, but for real.
Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?
That's funny.
You should start jiu-jitsu so you can be more effective at that.
My dad holds jiu-jitsu.
Yeah.
My son's in jiu-jitsu.
He loves it.
I have a lot of fun.
Oh, that's great.
Motherfucking hate.
Bitch, don't listen.
I'm a bitch that don't listen.
That's a bar right there.
I hate a bitch that don't listen, but I'm a bitch that don't listen.
Let's take this one word at a time.
Right there it says, motherfuckers hate a bitch that don't listen, but I'm a bitch that don't listen.
Like, because I don't listen.
Like, I just do my own thing.
They do.
They do.
I can see that.
It's understandable.
Checks out.
Checks out.
Yeah.
Next.
Are you lucky?
Cause you know I hate bitches with kids.
What?
What kind of statement is that?
Wait, you have a kid?
No, no, no.
I do.
I have a kid, but it's because this guy, he came up to me.
He came up to me at my work.
And he got you pregnant?
No, He came up to me and he was literally.
Oh, I thought you were telling the story of how you got literally.
No, no, no.
He was like, I like you.
You're beautiful.
This, this, and that, whatever, whatever.
And then we're going back and forth.
He's like, you have kids?
And I was like, yeah, I have one.
He's like, oh, man.
I hate a bitch with kids.
That's right.
That's funny.
Like, it's dumb, but like, I think he's like, because like we're like back and forth, you know, ha ha.
He's like, like, you know, you don't say nothing.
You can go put it on Twitter.
Like, you can go put it on Twitter.
He's like, what?
Imagine we're vibing, vibing.
I hate bitches with kids.
Like, what?
That's crazy.
All right.
I don't know if I would, like, even if I were single, I don't know.
Do you date a man with kids?
Like, you said what?
I don't think I would date a man with kids if I were single.
Well, yeah, because you don't, but you don't have kids, so like, it's different.
You have that, like, option.
Even if I had kids, I wouldn't date a man with kids.
I wouldn't need a man with kids either.
Like, I can have 12 and I don't want you to have one.
I don't have two.
I don't want to deal with childhood.
Wow, that was fucked up.
Destroying the eardrums of my entire audience.
Jay Eakin, you know, he's an OG, so I'm going to read this Canadian super chat.
Listen, Jay, you can't threaten something like this.
Okay, so we're going to need a champagne pop from you.
If you're going to invoke, if you invoke champagne pop in a super chat, you have to do a champagne pop.
Oh, it's like $300, $300.
We need a champagne package.
We're $290 short, buddy.
So, Jay, thank you.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Good to see you in the chat.
It's been a minute.
Yo, Lauren, thank you for the membership.
Appreciate it.
Tweets from the streets with Jim Bob.
I love it.
That's a good idea.
That's a great segment.
That would be good.
That would be good.
Oh, my God.
Tweets from the streets.
What the?
Go for real, though.
I don't care.
Dick, I ain't going.
Because I'm not going.
I hate dick.
That's uncut.
I'm sorry.
You got to make certain, bro.
I'm sorry.
Why are you body shaping?
Who here on the track of uncut dick?
What would they leave?
What would they leave in the comments below?
I'm circumcised, but for me, it's solidarity.
What the fuck?
Why are you?
Because, like, I didn't want a TMI.
I wanted to go ahead and get some.
Oh, I'm an American.
I'm just.
I got solidarity.
Like, I'm against circumcision.
I'm against circumcision.
I'm against citizens.
Okay, bye, next tweet.
I don't know, just because, like, I think that shit, like.
And me personally, as somebody, I have a genitalia preference.
I prefer women with large labia.
That's your, that's your, like, no, isn't that your?
Oh, my God.
What is it called?
He's talking about the large labia again.
Here he goes.
He's going to talk about the Audis and the Wizards Lady or the Arby's and the da-da-da.
That's why they call you Arby Queen.
I only date.
Yes, I only date women with large labia.
The biggest.
You check it first.
You're like, let me look.
That's what I do.
Look, I don't date it.
Like, she's got to have a large labia.
If she doesn't have an Audi, I'm Audi.
What made you come to that conclusion?
Are they just better?
It like grips you better.
An Audi?
Good job.
Who said you done did it?
You done, you done did it.
Yo, ill ill, whatever.
Thank you for the gifted five whatever memberships.
You're a fucking legend.
Thank you so much, man.
Okay, let's read it.
I need a cry, baby ass ninja.
Because I do.
What are you calling my phone a million times for?
Told you I was busy.
Next.
Then they go to my ghetto ass.
What the f- Try to say it one more time.
Redo it.
Redo it.
You didn't say it right again.
I'd be trying.
Here, I'll do it.
I'm gonna be trying to have my kid with the white folks.
Then there go my ghetto ass.
Should I do the next one?
Yeah, let's see.
What does that even mean, though?
I'd be trying to have my kid with.
I put my, like, I pulled my kid from the ghetto and I put him with like white people.
Oh, I thought you were trying to, like, fuck a white guy and get pregnant.
No, I took him from the ghetto and I put him with the white folks, but they look at me like, oh, fucking ghetto ass mom.
You know what I mean?
But what am I going to do?
You know, like, you got to start something.
What are you going to do?
You got to start.
You know, you got to start.
You know, you got to start somewhere.
I can't stay in the ghetto forever.
Okay.
You got a new white face.
I do, like, I live in Phoenix, so I live in Phoenix and on the West.
Speak of the devil and litter.
Speak of the devil, you know, we got this.
Whoa.
Jaykin donated $1,000.
Only cause I'm fan, my brother.
Dude, Jay, you're fucking legendary.
You could have donated it to me for real.
Hell no.
You know what, Jay?
Rub it in their face.
Pop it up.
Do it again.
Do it.
Do it again.
I want to see it.
Do it again.
I want to see you bought four bottles, actually.
Are you able to, Quinton, can you grab one from the refrigerator?
It's at the bottom level.
It's Prosecco champagne?
And no, Prosecco is so Prosecco's from Italy and champagne's from France.
And sparkling wine is from America.
This is all the flavors, sparkling wine.
Is that sparkling wine?
It's not technically champagne, but it is.
It's just a region where it comes to that.
No, I'll take that one.
Yes, the white one.
And then can you put the other one just back in the spring?
I don't know.
Yo, Jay, guys, I need W's in the chat for Big J, Giga Chat Jay.
Thank you, Jay.
Thank you, Jay.
Donation.
Don't mess with James.
Not the one.
Let him know.
Big Daddy Jay.
My YouTube also can't.
Wow, it looks like all the bellies.
Quinton, that one's good.
Big bottle's good.
Let me see.
All right.
Pop the champagne online.
What are you going to do?
Wait, Quinton, have you ever had.
You don't drink at all?
No.
Have you ever drank?
Yeah, I have.
Okay.
If somebody popped a bottle of crystal, would you drink it?
I don't know what Crystal is.
It's like one of the most expensive bottles of champagne.
If it was the best, sure.
It's like a $500 bottle.
But like in a classy way, right?
Like there's a glass.
Yeah.
All the flavors, sparkling wine.
Country Thunder.
Is that what that is?
That's what it's up to.
Oh, my God.
I have so much fun at Country Thunder.
All right.
Oh.
Hello.
You gotta open it.
I got it.
It's coming.
It's all bring baby brown.
Wait, it's gonna.
I'm mixed.
Oh my god.
Yeah, I don't want that.
Well, that was anti-climatic, but yo, Jay, you're fucking legend, sir.
Thank you, thank you.
Wait, hold on.
So we have everybody here is over.
Yeah, can you feel like champagne?
No.
Champagne?
Thanks.
Champagne?
Champagne?
I'm the one who got the bottle popped.
Of course, I would like a glass.
Wait.
Cheers to that, Billy Bob.
It was for you too.
Billy Bob.
Hey, first of all.
Sorry, Super Sambob.
My bad.
Super Sambob.
What the fuck?
Super Satan Bob.
Actually, Jim Bob.
Jim Bob.
I don't even remember to say something.
I would like to make a proposal, Jim Bob.
May I state your real name?
May I state it?
Sure.
His real name is James.
Oh, okay.
James, I think we need to rebrand.
As your godfather.
Oh, is it because of Billy Bob?
We kept saying Billy Bob.
No one can keep up with two words.
As your confidante and consiglieri.
Are you Italian?
He's like a billy.
Are you Italian?
Sicilian.
Oh, why?
As your conciglieri, Jim Bob.
Listen up.
Okay.
We got to change the name.
Yeah, we do.
Billy Bob and you cutting it no more.
Yeah, but cool.
Well, you got to listen, Jim Bob.
I mean, James.
We got to go with James.
We can't do Jim Bobby.
I'm just going to like Billy Bob.
No, we don't.
I can't remember.
Two names is a lot.
It's too much.
What do you think?
What do you think?
Jim Bob.
Should we change to James or what?
Where did it come from?
Like the nickname.
Yeah, what's the origin?
Oh, just, I don't actually know.
Champagne.
It's just like, I actually can't remember.
You guys saw that video.
I just ran with it.
Sam said she wants a full class.
She said she wants a full class all the way to the top.
Who?
Sam.
Oh, Sam.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
I don't know if there'll be enough for that, but what the?
Yo.
Jay is trying to get us drunk.
Say it into the mic, though.
Say that again until Jay is trying to get us drunk.
I said, Brian's trying to get me drunk.
Wow, that's crazy.
She took another risk.
I said he hates minding that.
Pass it down.
Yo, Jay, thank you so much for the champagne pop.
Appreciate it.
Love that.
That's for being tens.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Thanks, Jay.
Thank you, Daddy.
Wait, is this?
I'm just going to drink from the bottle.
Okay.
At least you drink that shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Pour it out for a homie.
What the fuck?
Brian, I do have a couple days.
Yo, my dad asks them all.
Pour one out for my dead homies.
Oh, my God.
Yo, my dad is so funny.
Okay.
Oh, cheers.
To all the cats on the panel, being friends.
We're all tens.
We're all baddies, real bad bitches.
To be on the panel, sticking it out.
To Billy, Bob, and Brian.
Yeah, Billy Bob.
Hilarious.
Cheers.
Okay.
Okay, next.
What a gangster.
Jay Aiken.
What a legend, sir.
All right, Jay.
Okay, next, if you can pull it up for me.
Let's see.
I'll put it on this.
I hate my life.
I don't know how to do regular makeup, just home makeup.
I said this on my way over here, so I don't know.
That's what I'm about to tell you.
So I don't know how to do like, like, I don't know how to do a light beat.
I don't know how to do like half-assed makeup.
No, no, no.
I just put all this shit on every time.
Like, there's no in-between.
Either I'm wearing no makeup or this.
And that's my biggest downfall, though.
Oh, my God.
Who cares?
Me.
You asked.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
I care too.
Yeah, just hoe makeup because it only looks good in the dark, you know?
Yeah.
Read it.
I said, I told five different guys today was my birthday, September 14th of 22.
My birthday is in January.
By the way, Jay said, Jay says, chair forward, not a trance.
Strumpet.
What?
Who?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can't even.
Oh, what the fuck?
Oh, is he your type, though?
He's a handsome guy.
Oh, I don't know.
Would you.
Yo, Jay, wait, apparently, I'm not his type.
Apparently, I'm not.
If I set you up, you're single, right?
He said nothing.
You're single.
Let me set you.
What's a trumpet?
What is a trumpet?
No, strumpet is not a hoe.
He said not a chance, though.
Is it?
Sort of.
What does it mean?
If she doesn't want to get what Dave was saying, she means a promiscuous woman.
Uh-oh.
A woman.
You got it right.
Thank you, Jenny.
I love that.
I guess that was right.
Next.
I don't know how y'all just be kissing.
I hate kissing, honestly.
I'd be kissing and get the party started, but that's it.
This feels like a shot.
That's so funny.
Right, Avi.
I just sometimes, like, I don't like to just because guys and girls randomly kiss at bars and shit, nasty, and people's mouths go through a lot, so it's kind of gross.
I really only kiss.
Everything else does it?
Yeah.
That's about it.
Like, I really only kiss my man in the rest.
Like, I don't, I don't kiss them.
Shoes the mouth that got away.
You know?
I actually, you know what's I kind of agree with you on this.
That's what I feel like kissing isn't really, it sounds crazy, but you're only gonna kiss your girlfriend.
You're not gonna kiss someone you're like cooking.
I mean, yes, but like, not like, like, I don't know.
I just, I'm not into like long, extended, like a 15-minute makeout session.
Oh, I hate, I hate, or it's like, if you think about it, like, when you're making out with someone and just me, literally, I'm like, oh, please.
That's fucking funny.
You have to be into it.
You have to be into making out.
You have to be feeling it.
Because it's not like I hate making it.
You got to feel it.
But you got to be feeling it.
You got to be feeling it.
Like, stick your tongue in my mouth.
I'm banging.
RSLB sends in an Australian $100 super chat.
Thank you so much, man, for chairs two, five, and seven out of Aston Martin Ferrari.
What?
Austin Martin?
Aston.
Does he pronounce it?
Aston?
Wouldn't it be Austin Martin to Aston?
I gotta wait for you.
Anyways, Ferrari, Lamborghini, or McLaren.
Which would you choose and why?
I'd probably do a McLaren.
That's chairs two, five, and seven.
Two, five, seven.
Which do you pick?
I feel like Lamborghini.
Okay.
I'm not doing cars, but Ferrari from RCT.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not into cars either.
I wouldn't know what the difference is.
I just know that they're all cards.
They're all really nice cars.
A McLaren.
Yo, thank you for the soup chat.
RSLB.
Thank you.
Oh, from Australia.
From Australia.
Thank you.
I like the question.
She loves that, dude.
She loves that.
I love it.
You want me to get you set up with him?
I can arrange a match.
I've never been to Australia, but I heard they got spiders.
Big one.
They got crazy bugs in the hospital.
I heard there's a lot of venomous, most poisonous shit over there in Australia.
That's crazy.
Wait, what were we talking about?
The things, the windows.
Oh, Mike, what the fuck?
Holy shit.
Fuck.
Get you all chubbed up.
Quentin, are you able to just close out all the tweets?
Oh, perfect, perfect.
Oh, wait, what am I forgetting?
Yeah, yeah, we're going to do a TikTok.
So we got, now we're getting to your TikTok.
We're going to do, and you guys are going to like this.
Oh, this is going to be so good.
So good.
So good.
My TikTok's not serious.
Just like those tweets.
Just like Instagram is not real.
Put it.
Oh, my God.
I think this is where I'm talking about.
I lie about everything.
Go video.
I'm worried about his media.
Quiet in the studio.
Go ahead, bro.
Honestly, I love lying.
Like, sometimes I'm single.
When people ask, sometimes I'm in a relationship.
Sometimes I'm not.
Is the audio maxed?
Sometimes you're gay.
Sometimes I'm 30.
Sometimes I'm 25.
Is it maxed, Quentin?
No, that's weird.
That's crazy.
Okay, what the fuck?
You can tab over, get the next one open, and have it just full screen ready to go.
We have a soup chat here from Not Birdman.
Hey, Birdman, thank you for your super chat.
Oh, by the way, you know what?
Hold on really quick.
First of all, bitch Bro, first of all Look at your profile picture Crazy, why your dick sucked or something?
Oh, shit.
Are you gonna like, what do you like?
Is that what you want to do?
Let them talk to you that way.
No, he only gave $10 anyways.
Like, what is he really like?
So you're saying he has to send in that.
You only got $3 of that.
You're telling me, worth your time.
Like, you only got $30.
You only got $30.
You only got $3.
Jim Bob, before we move on, Jimbo, can you take down one of those guitars and do like a quick ghetto tribute or something?
Sexy red anthem, please.
Sexy Rick.
Sing us some glow.
Single glow.
I wouldn't care no if you buck.
Oh, see, oh, guys, we're doing roast session.
We're gonna do a $30 TTS for the rest.
Here it goes.
Bro, why are you dropping it?
Yeah, go for it.
Go for it.
Oh.
Big sexy blood, let it hold.
Bounce that ass, touch them, toes.
I got it for you.
Oh, God.
Dude, Born by the River.
I try to get my boy out.
Do the white folks still get old.
Keep going, Jim Bob.
It's good.
Keep going.
Keep going, Jim Bob.
Can you bring up some tweets?
Can you bring up her tweet?
Hold up.
Come on, improv this.
It's okay.
We'll bring it up.
If you do find you, what is the ghetto anthem?
Let's go.
It's like control.
It's control shift.
All right, Jim Bob, read the.
You gotta sing it.
Read it.
You gotta do it in a country tone.
Wait, what the fuck?
Wait, we can't.
That's what you get.
Don't say that.
Don't say it.
I won't say it.
I won't say it.
No, we can't even show it.
We can't show it.
Next one.
Oh, all you get is show that one.
Yeah, it's like TOS.
T-O-S, you know.
What's T-O-S?
There we go.
Jim Bob, just an improvise.
Improvise, Jim Bob.
You got it.
He said, here we go.
Which one is it?
Bring them out.
We need more 805 in that bitch.
More bass, please.
Aren't all the tweets gone?
More bass.
Okay, I got one.
I got one for you.
I got one for you.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on a second.
2022.
That's how you know.
I worked really hard to get my kid out.
2022.
We were living good.
They're going to get on ass.
They know I'm still getting old.
Excellent.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, are we?
Okay.
You have it?
Y'all hate my life.
I don't know how to do regular makeup.
I just know home makeup.
Yeah, you do.
Sing it louder.
Sing it louder for us in the back, please.
One more.
Make sure you moan.
Moan a little bit.
I was raised as a whole I'm the iLib I truly am All I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did I mention I hate it?
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Look at Reggae.
Ninja.
What?
Wow, that was.
Make sure and follow me on Instagram.
Oh, my God.
My audience is ears already.
Go follow me and Cardi B. Monte.
Make sure and follow Billy Wild, bro.
I also want you guys to go follow me.
Oh, my God.
You're so funny.
Okay, so wait, guys, we're doing the roast.
TTS has now been set to $30, $30 TTS.
Are you cheap bass motherfuckers?
I know you got $30.
Get in if you want to get your roasting boys.
Oh, say it.
Say it with your chest.
My head's already on fire.
Let's get it.
You've been holding back this entire time.
Get it in.
Get it in.
$30.
If you stayed on here this long, you made it.
Damn, that was some gangster shit, Jim Bob.
That was, it was hot.
That was hot.
That was fire.
It was fire.
It was fire.
Oh, sorry, guys.
I'm trying to do.
Oh, dang.
Hold on, sorry.
Dang it.
Bruh.
Sorry, I'm doing the.
I'm changing the TTS here.
And I got it all messed up now.
It's all messed up.
So tell us what, Mac.
What do you want to talk about since you just start so far?
Can we do ASMR?
The fuck?
What kind of thing?
Champagne.
You asked, and that's all I've been thinking about since you asked me the first time.
Have you guys seen that video of Kodak when he said champagne, champagne?
You guys haven't seen that?
No, I haven't.
I love that for you.
Well, we should look up the video of Kodak.
He said champagne.
Thank you, though.
It's not Dragon Ball Z, so he doesn't care.
Hey, you wanted to be saying she knew all the Dragon Balls shit?
She knows all the Dragon Ball Z shit.
She was right here, and you're completely ignoring my bitch.
He didn't care about me because I'm over here, like, looking at him.
That's right.
Curved.
So, anyway, that's the one time.
The one time.
That's true.
The one time?
For the one time.
One time.
So hard.
So hard.
Heartbreak.
Oh, wait.
We have the first one.
Sons of Liberty.
Sons of Liberty.
Hold on.
Let me.
I fucked it up already.
Sorry, I didn't change the settings in Streamlabs.
One second, Sons of Liberty.
Let me re-trigger that.
Boom.
Here it is.
I've got two.
I'll let two come through.
Then we'll get back to the stuff.
Oh, what the fuck?
Sons of Library donated $29.99.
Men, listen to Tom Lykus, old school.
Ever heard of him, Brian?
Yeah, he lives.
He lives in.
I believe he lives in Santa Barbara.
Yo.
W Jim Bop.
I'll answer that after this one comes in.
Claim donated $30.
Diabetes Tuesday Adams, chair three, should definitely wear more makeup.
Ghetto Poison Ivy, Chair 4, has said nothing of substance.
Lucky most of your online vans are also blind or desperate.
I bet you're going to subscribe after, though.
You guys already know.
So, Sons of Liberty, to answer your thing, I've reached out to Tom Likas a whole bunch, like a couple different times.
Reached out to the ways in which you can reach out.
Email.
I think I DM'd him on something or whatever.
Didn't get a response back.
I think he's like semi-retired or something.
He still kind of does his show.
But yeah, he's located in like northern Santa Barbara County.
And it'd be dope to have him on.
He's the OG, basically.
But yeah.
So if anybody has contact with Tom Likas, and speaking of contacts with somebody, guys, my Twitter account, my ex, has been scuffed for over a month.
And there's this weird thing going on.
I won't get into the details here, but my Twitter account's all bugged and fucked up.
If anybody watching has a contact, at X, at Twitter, hook it up.
If anybody knows anybody who works at X who can help me out with my problem, because it's...
How did you have a problem, but you saw all my stuff perfectly fine?
Anyways, it's not related to being able to see stuff on Twitter.
It's just my account issue.
Lewis says this.
Louise donated $30.
Chair three and four, you're going to throw it at Brian tonight or not?
Is Brian going to catch it?
Senator Champagne bottle.
Louise subscribed.
Hey, Louise.
Louise.
Shen a champagne bottle.
Set a champagne.
But I want to see, that way we can get drunk and make it happen.
$30.
Far right, green top, black pants with the gorgeous curls.
20 tenths.
20 out of 10.
Thank you.
I'm at Taylor and Moore on YouTube, and I'm a professional athlete and jiu-jitsu fighter.
So please watch my jiu-jitsu.
And she plays the cello.
I don't play the cello.
I'm just on.
I do jiu-jitsu online, and I want you guys to watch it at Taylor and Moore.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Let's do the TikTok Reacts.
The audio is kind of low on it, but let's pull up the next one.
Go ahead and play.
Wait, hold on.
Put it on VIP.
Wait, wait, pause, pause, pause.
Can you rewind it and put it on the video tab?
Bro, I'm just remembering about this one time.
I fell asleep first, and this dude was in my house.
And he must have been going through like my pantry and shit because he like woke me up, like was shaking me, woke me up, and he was like, could you make someone else fucking tacos?
And I was like, oh, yeah.
And he was like, did you make someone else fucking tacos?
I was like, no, I made enchiladas.
You made someone else enchiladas.
Like, bitch, I made myself enchiladas.
Like, bro, that motherfuck woke me up at 6 a.m.
Talking about, did I make someone else food?
It was very toxic, very toxic day.
It's annoying.
Next.
We'll get the next.
So, what's the measurement that they use for the lip filler?
I don't know.
Should we ask a plastic surgeon?
But, like, isn't it like CCs?
You don't like it?
No, no, no.
Oh, no.
It's milliliters.
Oh, it's milliliters.
What is it?
CC's or boobs.
Oh, that's for the titties.
Okay, my bad.
CCs are boobs.
Oh, no.
I don't know about all that stuff.
But you do because you said it.
Frank.
He's wanted a gaslight.
He's worried for the future to your favorite from the trilogy.
Love your own demise.
I like them all to.
I like them all.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you, dude.
6304.
Yo, Frank, thank you so much for the message.
My name is my donated $30.
Chair 3 and 4.
Oh, yeah.
No, just like that.
I got them on my other hair, too.
Ruby 10.
Dude, they're making you all your money right now.
You're welcome.
Like, even for coming over here.
Yeah, you're welcome.
Yeah, you're welcome.
I got you up a thousand.
I don't think that was you.
That was just really, you don't think you're joking?
That's just Jay being.
How often does that happen to you?
Every time?
Get the fuck.
You know, he sent us a bottle.
Once a show?
Not every time.
Okay.
But, like, you're welcome.
Maybe.
I mean, we get crisscross.
Maybe, yeah, like every other show, probably on average.
We'll see.
This is a salad.
Sometimes we'll get two or three pops, so you guys are slacking.
Actually, if we weren't here, you wouldn't have had a lot of stuff.
When I was putting it in the bottom of the book, you gotta put my shit in the bottom.
I know.
They wanted to see that.
Like, that would have been a lot of fun.
I know me pops people up.
Every submission.
What?
My jiu-jitsu highlights.
Oh, your jiu-jitsu?
Yeah.
That's going to get champagne.
It is.
They're going to be like, damn, that's a baddie, and she can beat people up.
Yes.
If somebody sends in.
We need to have a clap off.
30.
If somebody sends in 200, we'll look at her jujitsu stuff.
Please be nice to me and send in 200.
Wait, the guy who called her 20 other people.
Send it to them on cash app.
Let's do the TikToks pour for.
Oh, God.
Next, go ahead and pull it up.
Mute the audio.
I'm like, no, I got me.
Wait, so it said, wait, play that to the bottom of the video.
You got caught having five boyfriends.
Okay, mute the audio then.
Okay.
I'm just trying to see whether POV, you got caught.
Do you have five boyfriends?
Not anymore.
What the fuck?
Oh my gosh.
You're hilarious.
Yo, me.
That was what the guy knows in that video.
The OBGYN.
Next.
Bro, so.
Oh, my nails are so.
Tell me why.
Tell me why.
I was going to hang out with this dude I've been talking to, right?
And we had a plan.
I was going to go over his house.
We're going to go to a bar, okay, together.
I drive 40 minutes to his house.
And I'm texting him the whole time, the whole day, the whole night.
I'm texting him, texting him.
We have an agreement.
Tell me why I get to his house and he's like, hey, I need to run a Walgreens to get some shampoo.
The door is open and go inside.
I go inside and I'm waiting like 30 minutes and I'm like, where are you?
Because the Walgreens down the street.
And then I look up the Walgreens and it says closed.
So I'm like, are you alive?
Like, are you okay?
He's like, yeah.
Then he tells me that he's at a bar.
He's at a bar.
He had me waiting there at his house while he was at the bar.
Best believe I left so fast.
Uh, just on the next one, I was like, I don't know why I showed you one.
There's another one, there's like a couple others.
Oh, yeah, let's do next.
Let's do next.
Let's see the next one.
Get it pulled up whenever you ever.
My Instagrams are better.
My Instagram videos are way better.
Can you switch it to video though?
I'm not able to do it.
We listen and we don't judge.
Okay, so I was one stay in the studio.
I was super in love with him, right?
And he was going through a hard time.
So I got a town home for us for him and his kids so he could move in with me.
During that time, I was going to go on vacation with my mom for a week.
And I told him, hey, put you on the lease so you can get the keys in.
You don't have to worry about me being there.
I paid everything already.
While I was on vacation, he went and took a video of him doing the dude with a different girl.
I don't know this girl at all.
And recorded it on his phone.
I came back and I went through his phone.
I kicked him out.
And then he went back to live with his ex.
Two weeks later, his ex and him got into a domestic violence dispute because she caught him texting me and started beating him up.
The cops got called and he got taken.
So I bailed him out of jail.
No.
It gets worse.
And he lived with me a couple days later.
He took my car while I was sleeping to go get by a different girl and recorded it.
And I went through this phone and found it.
Girl.
And I still took him back.
We listen and we don't.
That's my last relationship show.
That's why I've been single for like two and a half years.
Maybe three and a half years.
Is this the same guy who went through your pantry for the interview?
No, no, no, no.
Oh, man.
That was one of the five boyfriends.
That's like one of the ones on my roster right now.
He's observing.
Right?
I was scared.
He woke me up.
It's horrible.
We listen and, oh God, we listen and, hell yeah.
Wait.
Yeah.
Why were they closed up?
I. There's another one.
I don't like it.
Oh my god.
This is a really crazy one, guys.
What are you wearing?
What are you listening to?
I know Billy Bob's not fucking talking about what I'm wearing.
Read it.
When I was 16, when I was 16, my mom kicked me out because her husband made her choose me or him.
So I was on my own, got pregnant.
My mom's boyfriend was best friends with my mom and told her my mom then told me to get an abortion.
I could move back home instead.
So I got the abortion three days later.
She kicked me out because her husband didn't like me.
That's what all that says.
I'm so sorry.
No, don't be so sorry.
It was like for the like whatever.
It's fine.
I'm sorry that that happened to you.
We listen and we don't judge.
What's the next one?
Yeah, okay.
Honestly, I love lying on camera.
They're trying to roast me.
No one has even sent in a roast.
They're just like asking questions.
You feel too bad to roast her.
What was I wearing?
A money skirt.
Hey, it looked like you're like a sublime concert.
We listen and we don't judge.
So one time I was on an on and off again relationship with this one dude and I met this other dude who lived in Nashville.
He came down here and I was partying and I was like texting him on and off and after like six months he was like, let me fly you out here.
So I made my boyfriend at the time drop me up at the airport so that way I can go meet with this dude in Nashville and then I made him pick me up in the airport.
And I told him that I was with my friend Mariah.
So the whole time I was sending pictures and stuff, I had my friend Mariah go to bars and send me pics as if like I was with her off-guard pics.
Then I tagged her and all my stuff on my stories.
That's tough.
She made me think I was on a girl's trip.
I didn't get caught.
That's crazy.
We listen and we don't judge.
I'm judging.
That's fucked up, bro.
It's only fucked up if it's a girl doing answer.
Just to be clear, you so you were dating a guy.
Is this a fair recap?
You were dating a guy.
That guy drove you to the airport.
He was not shit, though.
So it's not like I just was going like it was your boyfriend.
Hold on.
So here's the recap.
Your boyfriend drove you to the airport so you could get flown out by another guy.
And then you fucked that other guy multiple times.
And then when that boyfriend was checking in on you, you said you were there with your girlfriend.
Not her.
Oh, a different Maria?
Her name was Mariah.
Oh, Mariah.
Okay.
Yep.
But he cheated on me.
He was the one who just got out of jail.
I built him out of jail and he still did me dirty.
So, yeah.
Oh, my God.
I mean, it's still kind of.
What would you do?
Leave, huh?
Alone.
I'm too mature.
Yeah, like the grown-up thing.
Not me.
Okay.
She had to get her lick back for me.
I'm going to let some roast come through.
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I like that music.
There's some beef in there.
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Jim Bob got an aquatic themed song for chairs three and four.
Something a little fishy about them, too, is all I'm saying.
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What the fuck?
Ask him.
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How long will it take for Strumpets to realize, hey, look, it's a woman.
Maybe.
I don't believe her.
That looks like a proser.
Filler in fake lashes actually ages them by 10 years.
Yo, everybody's like, you know, you got all these dudes.
You know, we got, listen, we got some based women who also watch the show.
So, yo, any women who are watching right now, if you're watching on Twitch, watching on YouTube, let's put some, let's put some, I don't even know what we're going to put.
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Put some.
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Pickle emoji.
Put the crown emoji.
Put the princess emoji.
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Thank you, whatever women, whatever enjoyers.
Thank you.
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What did the leper say to the...
Oh, that's...
What did the leper say to the prostitute?
Keep the tip?
Yeah, I read that earlier on.
Yeah, it's like these aren't.
John Veliquette.
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Reminder, guys, TTS is 30.
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Okay, we need to get through the notes here, guys.
We got show notes we still need to get to.
Show notes.
Show notes.
That's right.
Show notes.
Oh, I thought you were doing.
Oh, my God.
I'm still awake.
What do you want to talk about?
You want to talk about feminism and how it's terrible for society?
What do you want to tell us?
You want to tell us who you voted for?
No, I don't.
What do you want to tell us about?
Nothing.
I'm just like ready to eat.
She's ready to eat.
yeah i leave it's been like i'm gonna get in and out i'm gonna get in and out I'm actually going to do that.
This is why the wage gap exists because women are just incapable of putting in the days of hard work.
Wow.
This is very hard work.
All day.
Hard, unpaid work.
Anyways, well, okay.
So, anyways, Sam, we were waiting crazy dating stories.
You were a dancer for five years.
So that comes with a crazy dating life.
You would like to talk on the dating life of being a sex worker.
We already talked about that.
You have a sugar daddy, right, currently?
Or you've had sugar daddies?
Yeah.
Okay.
How many sugar daddies do you have?
Right now I have two.
Nice.
Wait, have you ever been on seeking arrangements?
Yeah, when I was like 18, girl, now I was burnt out.
Definitely seeking is like a joke now.
I mean, you could still find some good ones.
No, I'm not going to go on it.
I was just wondering.
I think she's been on seeking arrangements.
You worked at a prison, excuse me.
Yeah.
Were you dirty?
No.
I was dating one of the inmates.
And then even inmates?
No, I had one of the gang unit, the supervisor else.
He's my boyfriend.
So he was on my ass extra hard every day everywhere I went.
That's cool.
Oh, going to Marie here.
Her name is Mari.
Mari, sorry.
I apologize.
You said crazy and dating only go together for me.
Who said that?
You did.
When?
Bro, in the DMs, lady.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Damn, my stomach.
I'm hungry too.
My stomach's like, well, just because like grumbling.
Just because I feel like I'm a crazy lady.
You know what I mean?
I'm a crazy lady.
Men get mad at me.
I get mad at them.
You saw my Twitter.
Oh, sure.
You also wrote all I fuck with is gangsters and strippers.
Oh, yeah, that's my bio.
If you guys don't know, it's a song.
It's a song by Too Short.
It's called Gangsters and Strippers.
All I fuck with is gangsters.
All that fuck with his gangsters and strippers.
It's a song by Too Short.
It's like one of my favorite, too short songs.
That album's my favorite song.
Going to Mac.
You say you haven't had a boyfriend yet.
We talked about that.
You said your hot take would probably be that there's no specific rules to dating.
You know, everyone has their opinions about how relationships and dates should go down, but you think dating is just a preference game.
Yep.
Okay.
Another one would probably be that dating apps have made people disposable in the dating world.
Yep.
Because then it's like, oh, okay, well, they're pissing me off onto the next.
Not me, though.
I don't go on dates with people on dating apps, but I don't know.
I was trying to think of hot take.
I didn't really have any.
Okay.
Hot take.
Never mind.
Actually, no.
What is it?
I decided not to share that.
Okay.
You want to deport people?
What?
Wait, wait, wait.
No, I didn't say any of that.
Huh?
No.
Oh, sorry.
I thought.
Okay, never mind.
Hot take, I guess.
I don't know.
Ruby, going to Ruby here, you said you had a boyfriend.
He was successful, smart.
He was afraid of commitment, so you left the relationship.
No matter of money, no amount of money can make you stay.
Emotional and mental health are more precious and priceless.
Yes.
You said corn, OnlyFans models are damaging society, but men are at equal fault.
A woman may sell herself, but a man buys.
It's a successful business because of the high demand, primarily of men.
Both genders need to come together and fix what they both broke.
So you were saying something about OF models are damaging society.
We got some people.
Number two.
And then did you used to be a stripper?
I still am.
Still are.
Okay, so kind of involved in sex work.
Do you want to say something to the sex workers at the table?
I just think it's.
I think you guys just have so much value, and you guys have so much more to offer than your body.
That's what I'm doing.
Oh, my God.
I think I offer emotion to my body.
I offer my creativity to my fans.
And like company and chatting and creativity.
Yeah.
What?
You don't think it's hard to be creative to keep people intrigued and engaged?
There's so many bitches in the world.
We need to be like, wait, wait a second.
Hold on.
Hold on a second.
What are you selling?
Are you selling folds of your body?
Dreams.
Holes and folds.
How is that creative?
I don't know.
I'm interested in the middle chair.
What are you creating?
Me?
Content.
Yeah.
Like movies?
Like, she's a gym pop.
Hold on.
I got to come to her defense.
She's a real Steven Spielberg over here.
She's a Martin.
She's a real Quinton Tarantino.
Okay.
She's a real Martin Scorsese.
Okay.
Just kidding.
I don't know.
I want to make sure.
I usually like take movies.
I take movies that are like real movies and I make them into adult movies and I play different characters.
Parodies, yeah.
She does make movies.
Yeah, I make parodies like I did Die Hard in Snow White.
I did CSI Miami coming out tomorrow.
And they're like, let's do Star Wars.
It's coming out tomorrow.
I know that.
That's right.
Do it.
Say it loud.
I mean, promoted.
Billy Bob.
Stop.
You're gaslighting right now.
What do you mean, gaslight?
You don't mean it.
You don't even need it.
What's the creative part, though?
The creative part, you have to stay creative and only fans.
And I'm going to play with you.
I play all the characters in my movie.
And I record myself and I see you steal from original works of art and you pervert it and you call that creativity.
How do I steal it?
I make a parody of it.
You take parody, someone worked to make something, and then you pervert it with pornography and call it.
Yeah, basically that.
And I put my creativity into taking a normal movie and then anybody want an ice cream.
That's amazing.
Wow, and anybody could like do that.
I don't think anybody can do that.
They're rainbow.
I mean, you haven't watched them, so I don't watch them.
They're trash.
Do you want one?
I won't watch them.
How can you say they're trash?
I mean, I don't know.
Get the fuck out of here.
What?
What?
I don't think anyone who doesn't really have, like, a background in videography can make that.
Other people, hold on.
Other people do put in the time to write, direct, and produce a movie.
Yeah, I do the same thing.
Take their idea and then include dicks and butts and sex.
That's all you do.
Yeah, great work.
Yeah, that's what I do.
I am.
They are good movies.
They are good movies.
Damn, Jama.
I have no fucking creativity in my phone.
I simply shit.
This is some Italian on Italian crime here.
This is crazy.
Unbelievable.
This is crazy, bro.
Wait, so hold on.
We'll get back to your notes, Ruby, because Ruby, you had some thoughts on that.
But I'm going to let there's a bunch of chats coming through.
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How about this?
Claim donated $30.
Or how about innuendo?
Not in your rendo, which is what some of you are used to.
Which is also 32 feet per second per second in Freedom Units.
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Didn't wait for 30.
Hi Bradford donated $30.
Care 2, stop acting like you're above this.
You try to act intellectual, but you're checking your hair every three seconds.
Try thinking.
Rachel Wilson donated $30.
Oh, Rachel, thank you.
Chairs 2, 3, and 4 combined IQ is lower than the age of Leonardo DiCaprio's latest girlfriend.
W's in the chat for Rachel Wilson.
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Care 2-3-4.
Your pride is based on compliments men give when they see M, so they can disappear faster.
Your only contribution to society is an open door, and even that's a public health risk.
Pasty George donated $30.
Many of these women on the panel will end up aging out alone and with cats.
They will end up posting videos online saying how they regret their choices and the delusional views that led them there.
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And acceleration is due to gravity.
Within the gravity pull of the planet, or any planet, acceleration changes.
Acceleration changes as we exit gravitational pulls of celestial bodies.
Who cares donated $30?
You aren't worth more than $30.
That's why I didn't send a $200 super chat.
Like I said, I wouldn't even touch you with a 10-foot pole broke.
I can smell the broken donated $30.
The only thing you offer to them is your crotch, your chest, and your butthole.
It's not art, it's not creative, it's just smut.
Sorry, but it will never be anything more.
My chest is worth like $15.
Where did it come from?
Where did the term gaslighting come from?
Anyone of you have an idea?
Or dictionary.
Oh, it came from gaslighting came from euphoria.
Pasty George donated $30.
Yo, Pasty George.
A lot of men in the chat would agree that Chair 2 is nothing extraordinary, but she's not unattractive either.
She is mid at best, and a dime a dozen.
Do you want to respond to the mid accusations?
I don't agree with it.
What the fuck?
And nor would it, nor would it.
Do you want to respond to that?
I've never heard anybody say that.
Do you want to respond to the allegations against you?
Sure, I don't agree with it.
Yeah, I don't agree with it.
Stop.
I'm not mid.
You're an asshole.
You're not really responding.
What am I doing?
I'm just saying.
Do you want to respond to the mid?
That's what you're telling me.
I'm a gentleman.
I'm a feminist.
I'm giving her nothing.
Get the fuck.
I'm a feminist.
I'm not mid.
And, you know, you're probably just sad because you can't get with me.
If I saw you in real life, I wouldn't want you.
Wait, who wrote that?
Was it Pasty George who wrote that?
Pasty George, you're just.
Didn't you call me?
He's a flop.
Pasty George.
I got them.
That's normally how I take it.
Jealousy.
Walmart.
They don't make them anymore, though, sadly.
Okay.
Thank you, name taken.
Name taken donated $30.
Rest assured, share three subscribers don't watch your content because of your creativity.
They're only there to bust.
So long as you succeed in making them do that, they are happy.
Is your name, Sam?
That's good, though.
As long as they're watching, apparently.
All right.
We have some super chats I'm going to read.
Or maybe Felicity, can you read these?
Really quick flory thing for the, this is 40 euros.
Thank you, Florey.
Chair 234, your pride is based on compliments men give you when they, can I say that word?
Just, yeah, keep going.
So they can disappear faster.
Your only contribution to society is an open door and even that are a public health risk.
We said that.
Anybody move out the way?
Chair five.
If someone spray painted a peen and balls on an airplane, is that art?
Probably, yeah.
Fucking money.
To use your zone.
Shout out from Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
Tuscaloosa.
That's okay.
Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
Trump is coming here in a few days for common sense.
Common center.
Commencement.
Comments.
I misread that.
Commencement.
I think Jim Bob is drastically underestimated in debate.
Sorry, your computer's kind of.
I want to see him more.
Did you vote, Brian?
If so, who did you vote for in the last election?
I voted for Trump.
Aaron Chambers.
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By the way, Aaron Chambers, the $49.99, that means you send it from an iPhone.
You sent it from an iPhone?
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You sent it from iOS.
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Appreciate it.
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The privilege of these women are crazy.
Nothing special on this panel or below mid.
Send them to my country where bullying is allowed.
Life on easy mode for below average things.
Yo, Odis.A.U. and then eats you alive.
Will you rethink the choice then?
JBW, Brian W. I'm gonna go get Lightbow again.
I'm not gonna go to Jim.
Yo, Odyssey to see you in the chat, man.
Appreciate the message.
Okay, so going back to Ruby's notes.
I'm gonna go get Lightbow again.
Did you have more thoughts on the OF stuff?
No, like I said, I just think you are beautiful and you have a lot of value and you have more to offer than your body.
That's all.
I mean, OnlyFans is like my is what really like almost saved me from being broke and not doing anything with my life.
And I feel valued in what I do.
Do you hold more value than we do?
Because you.
Do you hold more value than we do because you don't do OnlyFans?
Yes or no?
That's a good question.
It's not anything crazy.
I'm just asking, like, personally, you don't have OnlyFans.
You don't have OnlyFans.
You don't have OnlyFans.
Do you feel like you hold more value because you don't do OnlyFans?
I think we all have equal value.
It's just that I'm because you have a little bit more value because you don't have OnlyFans?
No, no, no, no.
I think we all have the same value.
And because I acknowledge that we have value, I'm just able more reserve.
That's it.
She's more valuable to other women as her young girls.
No, I mean, she holds, obviously, she holds more value in her head, just like the other girls here.
They hold more value because they don't do OnlyFans because they're not sure what's going on.
Regardless of what she says, I feel she said.
Not to each his own.
No, no, no, no.
That's bullshit.
To each his own is how you get a society to fucking employ to each his own.
No.
What she's saying is that she acting out in the world provides better quality and value to other human beings, including women, as an example of being a woman than women who sell pornography and sell their folds and holds online.
Okay.
And she's right.
She does.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's it.
All right.
Yeah.
Ruby.
I saw something on your Instagram about like the Trinity or something.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, what about it?
So, but you're like questioning the Trinity or something?
No, no, no.
So for me, it was, I grew up in a very religious background, like borderline cultie.
And, you know, my parents were able to get away from that.
And I always stop talking.
I always believed in God, but I just didn't really understand what the Trinity was.
So that's when I really started reading into it just to get a better understanding.
Because when you're reading the Bible, you know, it talks about Jesus and it talks about God and it talks about the Holy Spirit.
And I kind of did my own research to try to understand the Trinity better.
And I just put that information onto a post to maybe help out anybody else who is trying to understand what the Trinity is.
We're not going to get into that.
Okay.
Yo, on screen with Levine, thank you for the super chat.
Uh, we're gonna do the TTS is still active, but we're gonna do some more notes here.
Going to Carly.
How many more notes?
We got more notes.
Chill out, ladies.
God damn it.
You know what?
Here's the crazy thing with y'all.
If some of y'all just answered questions and just, you know, answered the question, oh my god, we wouldn't be here for so long.
But it's on you.
No, it's on you.
You guys take forever to answer a fucking question.
Oh, let me take five seconds to move my mouth to the mic.
And then can you repeat the question?
I wasn't, sorry, I wasn't paying attention.
Repeat the question.
That's on you.
You guys just take forever to fucking answer questions and shit.
Okay.
I'm going to bring out the other bottle of champagne, too.
The fuck?
Okay.
So, Carly, your notes.
In your, I think this is in your Instagram bio.
You say God is love.
Are you Christian?
So, yeah, as I said earlier, I consider myself having a relationship with God.
And if I have to label it, yeah, I'd be non-denominational Christian.
Non-denominational Christian.
Okay.
So.
Do you go to church?
Yeah, I do.
Which one?
It's in Red Lens.
It's called Truth and Triumph.
Oh, wow.
Okay, non-denom.
Okay.
I guess my question, though, is like, so you don't do sex work, but I looked at your Instagram and it's pretty immodest.
And look, I don't really have much skin in the game, but isn't a component of Christianity isn't there?
Like I said, I have a relationship with God.
I never said I had to be labeled as a religious person.
If you went to the church, what does that mean?
I don't understand what that means, though.
You go to church.
You go to church, you claim to be Christian, but also let me just disregard scripture.
I'm disregarding it.
I have a relationship with God.
There's a difference.
It's not like I'm saying, you know, are you not?
I'm going to defer to Jim Bob really quick, but Jim Bob, just for the sake of time, we can't be on that for too long.
Jim Bob, is there a component of Christianity where either through scripture or Bible verses, there is a component of like you should be dressed modestly or be modest?
Yeah, modesty is definitely a part of Christianity, but if you're non-denominational and you're just making it up on the fly, she's basically saying she has a customizable Christianity where she believes generally in God and she goes to a day.
Hold on, your relationship with God is the thing that you use as a shield so you can do these other things.
So when people question you and say, are you being Christian?
You get to say, well, I have a relationship with God.
It's totally ambiguous.
You can't actually tell me my relationship with God.
Therefore, I can do all of these things.
That's not why.
That's not why I say that.
I say that because religion has such a strong title to it that it's miskewed.
And I don't want to be, I'm actually just not a forceful person.
I feel like that's where when you say, oh, I'm a Christian, it means like, and when you're talking about God, I actually do enjoy talking about God.
And I like, you know, being able to bring people closer to God in the ways that I can and being helped and prayed for and feel loved.
So when it comes to God, he's not forceful.
And I just like to take that dynamic out of the whole thing because religion can be seen as scary to most people because they've grown up in environments that are religion's not forceful.
It can be.
Like even in the Bible, it talks about how you shouldn't be religious.
You should have a relationship with God.
It literally says that you should, you don't need to be religious.
That trades into a Phariseum thought.
Like it's the, it becomes like.
So if someone does something evil and we make what is evil illegal, don't we use force to put people in jail when they do something illegal that is also immoral?
So are you saying I'm just God's not forceful?
That's all I have to say about that's it.
So so you're saying don't use force to be godly, but also we should arrest people by using force who do evil things, correct?
The only time they use force is if it's necessary.
So if it's necessary to, they tried in all the ways not to like how you're trained on the, I guess, an officer is to de-escalate it the best way you can without using like physical force or anything.
You know, it's it starts with talking first.
And if it needs to be negotiating, yeah.
So so when someone, so someone is walking around indecently, a man is walking around indecently in front of children, the best way is to take a negotiative action and be like, let's talk to this guy as opposed to use force to literally remove him from the street.
Right.
Well, you can always try to get the person to go away first.
And then an officer shoot them for.
Can you pull up the Juliet stuff really quick?
I just want to get that out.
We'll come right back to it.
I'm sorry.
I just have to do it right now.
If you can get that pulled up.
F11.
Okay, so we got this girl right, F11.
Oh, no.
Ah, shit.
Okay.
Scuffed.
No, it's going to get all scuffed.
Just leave it.
Okay.
But window time.
Okay, so we had this girl who's going to be on the show today.
And so she flaked for April 20th.
My car's not starting.
3 p.m., by the way.
I have to get it towed.
There is no way I'm making it.
Okay, you're wanting to reschedule?
So that's April 20th.
Then we reschedule it for today, April 27th.
She says yes.
But then 3.45, mind you, we have a 4 p.m. meet time.
So last week, April 20th, she flaked at freaking an hour before the show, which she was coming from LA.
She would have known sooner.
Then she sends me this like cryptic, vague 3.45, 15 minutes before me time.
Well, I tried.
Also, the pay is just not incentive enough.
It's low for the amount of work.
I was like, huh, what do you mean?
And then she just ghosts me, doesn't respond.
And then also, oh, these are her pre-show notes.
It would have been good because living in a patriarchal world, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And she's talking about got to be very giving in a relationship, enthusiastic, acting genuine.
But go back to the other one if you can go back the opposite way.
So she, three, four, this is the rudest, this is one of the top rude things I've dealt with.
Well, I tried.
Also, the pay is just not incentive enough.
It's low for the amount of work.
So it's like, how are you going to text somebody when we've already rescheduled you?
You already flaked last minute.
How are you going to send me a text 15 minutes before the show saying, well, I tried.
The fuck does that mean?
You're her friend, right?
What was the excuse she gave you?
Her car.
Yeah.
Her car?
Her car not starting?
Yeah.
What does that mean?
So that's what happened the first time.
Here, put it on a different tab if you can.
But so she said her car didn't start again?
We haven't been talking.
But you guys were like, aren't you guys friends?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's fine.
But what do you mean?
Yeah, we're friends, but we don't talk all the time.
I know, but she was like, hey, can I bring my friend Carly?
I was like, yeah, okay.
Right.
Yeah, but we don't.
But you drove here.
So why didn't she just carpool with you?
Because we're not really talking right now.
Wait, so she didn't show up because you came?
No, I don't think that's it.
I think she would have definitely showed up still.
What do you mean you're not talking?
We're not talking right now.
It's like we're going through some stuff as friends.
But she wanted to bring you like just a few days ago.
Yes, things happen in friendship, especially female ones.
But I don't know.
This is why we.
Okay, hold on.
I was going to make a wage gap thing.
But so I'm just confused, though.
So what happened?
Did she text you at all?
She was going through.
Okay, so she was going through like a medical emergency thing right before we stopped talking.
And then because she, I was on a, I was out and emergency.
Are you just making up a lie for no?
I'm literally, I was out all day.
You can, you can go, it's probably not up, but it was on her story.
She was like, oh, I'm dealing with a medical emergency right now.
She fainted on the floor.
I don't see her story.
I just see her at a fucking fashion show yesterday.
Right.
And oh, medical emergency, but here's me at a fashion show.
I'm looking at her story right now.
She's at a few days ago.
She really did have a few days ago, but last night she was at a fashion show.
Right.
Yeah.
I'm not talking about her.
So she's good now.
I haven't talked to her in a while.
What's her medical thing?
She got bitchitis?
Her medical thing was she had period cramps or something or too much blood or passed out.
Another perfect argument for the wage gap.
Oh, I'm going to just no-show a gig for the second time because period.
The fuck?
Well, that was a while ago.
So then what's the medical emergency she was dealing with, which prevented her from coming tonight?
That was not what I was talking about.
Okay, so she's just like a scumbag who just flakes on people?
What?
This is called.
This is called.
I know you guys, as women, you just want to move through.
You just want to move through life and fuck people over and just have no regard for other people's times and businesses.
Guys, quiet back there.
You want to just move that way without any accountability.
But it's crazy to me that somebody she flaked an hour before the show last time.
She flaked 15 minutes before the show today.
If you're driving from LA, you know at least two hours before me time if you're coming or not.
You know fucked up.
Yeah, she's a scumbag.
No.
Your friend is a scumbag.
Well, I'm not ever going to say that.
She's not a scumbag.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
She's a flake, but she's not a scumbag.
Yeah, that makes you a scumbag.
In your eyes.
Yeah, in my, yes, in my eyes, that makes you a scumbag.
You flake it.
And then I'm like, okay, we can reschedule you.
I accept it.
And then to just 15 minutes before the show, look, if you're going to cancel, give me notice.
Tell me.
Give me an hour, two hours, three hours, four hours, 24 hours, 48 hours.
Let me know ahead of time.
I just think it's real scumbag behavior.
If you know you're not coming, you tell the person as soon as you know.
If you leave, if you're living in LA, that's what I do.
I don't do that.
If you're living in LA and you got to be two hours away, you know, two hours beforehand, I'm just not coming.
I'm fully aware.
Yeah, so your friend's a scumbag.
Just saying.
Super scummy.
Should we fucking pull up her Instagram and put her on blast?
Yo, chat, should we?
I don't know.
Don't pull it up yet.
I'll ask the chat what they want.
Listen, chat, this is what I'm dealing with.
I'm just dealing.
Yeah, she's shut up.
That's how I feel.
Woman, wait, wait.
This girl didn't want to come on my podcast.
Did you talk about it?
Bro, if somebody doesn't want to come on the podcast, what I'm trying to point out, if somebody doesn't want to come on the podcast, fine, but do so in a professional and respectful way that's respectful of everybody else's time and my time.
Give me advanced notes.
Who is this person?
I didn't know they were gonna be here.
How would that matter?
It was her friend.
How would that matter?
I'm getting mixed.
They're saying, Yes, do it.
It would have been I'm people that's on even numbers.
She's like, doesn't work.
Huh?
You work here?
What?
I was saying, like, you probably sitting here because the other girl wasn't.
Maybe, or do you like coming here all the time?
Chat, you want to pull it up?
I'm here every Sunday.
Like, you like come on the show?
Not like as a panelist every time.
Or I was asking if it's asking if you're filling in the spot.
So, normally, I mean, typically, if there's an open spot, then Felicity will take the spot.
Otherwise, she's like sitting in the back.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we were down.
We had a couple flakes today.
Then, why are you pressing her?
Huh?
Then, why are you pressing your friend?
What?
Then, why are you pressing her friend?
I don't even understand.
If a couple people are worried about her, because she gave me the least amount of notice.
So, the other girls, how many girls did you plan to have in total?
Something like 11 or 12 or something.
I overbook, anticipating people are going to flake, but we're down.
Like, Felicity shouldn't be on the panel.
It should be her friend, Juliet, who's a scumbag.
Felicity, what do people call you?
The fuck Felicity.
I know, but what do people call you?
Like, do you have a nickname?
They call her Felicity.
What the fuck?
I'm just asking because people might you think my fucking name is Maudi?
You think I walk around?
Oh, my birth certificate is Maudi.
No, but it's more easier for people to say Maudi.
It's why I'm Maxine.
It's my max.
Claims.
That's why I'm Max and you do have a nickname.
You know what I mean?
Because you're a comic from 1938.
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Yo, Clay, thanks so much, man.
Appreciate it.
We have more coming through.
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I'm missing out on dating a future cat lady who will post weekly crying videos online about men not marrying her or staying in a long-term relationship with her.
Pass, I have self-respect and dignity.
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Chair 2.
I see you stopped checking your hair.
So what good comes from feminism?
Happier families?
Happier women?
Why aren't you checking your hair except you want men to spurt to you?
Have you actually $30?
Chair 1, can you do us a favor and stop Jujuing the mic for us?
Thanks.
How charter fighter women eat with those big bunnies pumped up by tile lips?
Looks like a monkey's bunny is on your face.
I do need to get my lips dissolved.
Word, okay.
We have some more coming through.
Thank you.
Oh, sorry, Randy.
It might trigger twice.
on that randy donated 30 dollars claim you already conceded the turd um by asking the speed of gravity when gravity is not a speed but an acceleration now they're just agreeing money doesn't make you smart argue more you already lost Yo, thank you, man.
Clay donated $30.
We need to globalate Jill Wilson.
Need more of her type on this.
That's great.
Not these dillers and all meat sex with nothing to offer.
Damn.
He didn't even spell delusional, Rand.
Nice.
Pasty George donated $30.
To chair two, you were going to come on the show with your friend, but now you do not talk to her anymore.
I smell the bullshit.
I can prove it.
I mean, it's not like we don't talk anymore, but we haven't been talking.
It's like we're going through some stuff.
It's common.
I mean, I think.
Are you guys dating?
What do you mean, dating?
Like, you guys.
What?
She's literally just my friend, and we're having friend issues.
And our whole friend.
But it was Thursday.
So you reached out on Thursday about joining on the show.
And then, so in the Thursday, Friday, Saturday, in like a three-day period.
It was before that, too.
We were already having problems.
We were having problems since like last weekend, actually.
We were having problems since last weekend.
Well, honestly, it's probably good that you and your friend are having problems because your friend's a scumbag.
So, yeah.
Just saying.
Major scumbag.
So it's probably good.
Like, honestly, fucker.
Tell us what's going on.
I'm going to side with you.
Oh, God.
Spill the tea.
No.
Spill the tea.
I'll side with you on your beef with Juliet.
She's really sensitive.
Fucking Juliet.
No.
Say, what did she do?
She fucked your boyfriend?
Oh, God.
No.
She wouldn't do something like that.
She stole your Adderall?
Did she steal your Adderall?
I'm not pressing her.
I'm pressing Juliet.
No, I do not do any substances.
I don't do any substances of any kind.
She stole a gig.
She fucking stole a gig, didn't she?
No.
No, she's not a bad.
She's not a bad person.
She just has, she deals with issues like, she actually has autism, guys.
So she actually deals with that kind of stuff and ADHD and all kinds of things that I just can't handle all the time.
So she takes things differently.
And I still show up to appointments.
Yeah, exactly.
So there's things that.
I'm a man of my word.
Like, if I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it.
Right.
Same.
So I show up too.
What do you mean, eh?
Well, not for me.
I showed up.
I mean, like, you know, I also, when I say something, I do it.
So I, I, that's something we also have a problem.
You know what?
I'll give Carly credit because her friend bailed and she still came.
You're a gangster.
Oh, thank you.
You're a, you're a G. You're a real.
You're a real G.
Okay.
All right.
Let's, I'm going to move off of that.
Oh, wait.
You know what?
We got more chats.
And I didn't even know if she.
Sorry.
I just want to say one thing.
I was still going to come too because since we're not talking, I was fully ready for her to just magically appear here too.
I was like, oh, I don't know how that would have worked out.
Apparently, we're not in the loop.
So we have this pasty George donated $30.
To chair two, your friend bailing out at the last minute for the show is an entitled scumbag.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Stop doing that, please.
Sorry, my bad.
Damn, bro.
This is like one that this is a feral panel, bro.
Y'all feral tonight.
Based Thor donated $30.
So I'm going to go to the show three and four.
Y'all are the typical Arizona Ghetto Phoenix 304s.
Copy, ed and paste of the same modern chick.
Only fans mindset.
Boss babe delusion.
High body count.
Zero accountability.
What's your guys' body count?
Say it on three.
One, two, three, a thousand.
Wait, hold on.
Speaking of body count, do you guys think?
Do you guys think body count matters?
Yes.
Samantha, you said men are insecure if they care about body count.
Just going around the table, what's everybody's body count starting with Felicity?
Two.
Let's go to.
Let's go to you.
Is that part of your autism right now?
I said it.
I said it.
What is it?
A million.
No, come on.
From realsies.
I think maybe like, honestly, probably like 60.
Huh?
Wait, what?
No, that's cool.
I'm not judging.
I'm not judging, but you said 60.
I just want to make sure I have zero.
I respect that.
I thank you for sharing.
60, though, right?
Yeah.
Okay, what about you?
It's over 9,000.
How come when I said $1,000?
Oh, it's wrong.
Ruby liked that one.
She didn't.
I heard her love exactly.
What is it?
I don't know.
Why are we getting wipes out there?
Everybody here's taking their makeup off.
We do a segment called makeup removal.
Body count.
Body count.
Like 100.
Over 100?
Okay, what about you, Carly?
This is crazy.
Is that real?
Wait, what's yours?
Can I have like my face wash?
I got like.
Just take your makeup off, everybody.
Make a sticker beek, ball.
What do you mean?
Well, I'm not going to force you guys to do it, but just do it to be good sports.
Body count.
Sorry, brother.
But don't complain about the show being long when you guys can't just answer questions.
I'm sorry, I'm still thinking about six.
Okay.
Six.
Low.
I can count on one hand and I still have fingers left, but out of respect for my future husband, I'm not going to talk about sexual specifics with another man.
Okay.
Zero.
Body count?
I can't disclose it because I have my fans paying for this information.
What?
Shut the fuck up.
Come on, girl.
That's crazy.
I just made it nothing.
I'm like, you know what?
I love a bitch who don't say nothing.
You see what I'm saying?
I don't have any questions.
I actually just sounded a 20-minute video I made photography.
I just made a number up because you asked me to talk.
No, it was just, I'm just making shit in the matter.
So it's like 100%.
Bro, this is not real.
It's the internet.
This isn't real.
It's the internet.
Ruby?
I decline to answer.
Sorry.
Do you want to do a range?
A what?
Like a rate.
You don't have to say the actual number, but like a range.
Is it 10 to 20 or something like that?
She said like one to three.
Do you want to do a range?
I don't.
Felicity, you already did it right.
Okay.
Well, good talk.
Here we got some more.
Claim donations.
They look like they're going to fucking target.
Speed describes acceleration, does it not?
Think you're getting caught up on the wrong issue.
True, money does not denote intelligence.
Good job on chair one for catching them is spelling.
Justin Martin's donated $30.
Brian, when's Jim Bob coming in person to fight chair one?
Should be a good matchup.
Yo, I would respectfully, I would demolish him.
What the fuck?
Well, if we were playing by the rules of jiu-jitsu, but I would just like literally, I would just kill you.
No, whatever rules, like it could be MMA for you.
You can come to my gym and sign a waiver.
Maybe whatever for you.
However you want to do it.
Yeah, however rules you want to do it.
No, literally, just come sign the waiver.
You can do whatever you want, but I'll do what I want.
Uh-oh.
She is a purple bell.
She's a purple belt.
Like, just do whatever you want.
Like, I don't care if you punch, but you can come through and sign a waiver and I'll, whatever rules, Alice.
Wait, you actually want to do that?
So you're willing to die?
You would not kill me.
Well, that's what you're saying, but are you willing to, are you willing to die?
That's the insane thing.
You should be more worried about me than I should be worried about you.
I understand you're talking, but are you willing to die?
You're silly.
I'm a professional and you don't do jiu-jitsu.
I know, but we're not doing jujitsu.
I'm gonna be afraid of you.
You guys want to do this for you?
I'm gonna do jiu-jitsu.
Why don't you give MMA?
Is this a straight fight, or what is this?
I thought you guys were going to...
No rules, no rules.
You bring a gun?
Well, there's no rule.
Well, okay, all right.
I said you can punch and stuff.
Like, that's fine.
I'm not gonna punch you.
I'm just gonna choke you out.
What the hell?
That's what they do.
That's what they teach you.
You want to know something?
My son, I have my son in jujitsu.
That's what they teach you.
They literally, it's real shit.
Yo, me, I'm all just no.
I have my son in jujitsu.
It's real shit.
He's like, no rules.
I'm like, okay, even if you punch it.
It's like, it's literally like they literally teach you like for real.
I looked up the definition of mid-andit, your busted picture.
I don't, I'm not into dumb shit, and I second that.
What a hater, bro.
I'm a fucking hater, dude.
Josh donated $30.
Kind of funny how Pinky Chick would rather be with a bear in a forest than a man, but also desires to be in dark, hot, sweaty nightclubs filled with random men all around her.
This is an interesting point, Josh.
This is an interesting point, Josh.
They're like, oh, I would rather a bear, but y'all will have like a one-night stand with a random dude.
Put that on the ground.
Oh, did everybody take you guys not gonna do the makeup thing?
No.
I really don't know.
I don't have one night stand.
I'm not sure if you're a bad man, right?
Me neither.
Yeah, it's disgusting.
If I pay you $2.
Will you take the makeup off?
Two makeups.
You know how much makeup's worth?
He said $2.
I got $2 bills here.
That's so much.
Are those worth anything?
That's hot.
You know how much this is worth?
Two dollars.
Are they the good ones?
Let me see that little number.
Sometimes they're worth way more.
They don't get that.
Here, I got to read some super chats.
Okay, we have David.
Thank you for the soup.
Flaky people are the worst.
100%.
Good to see in the chat, David.
10% of the women are punctual.
They're the true 10-year.
We have John Veliquet in the Bible.
It is the fool who hates correction.
We all have plenty to be ashamed of.
This shame and conviction of spirit should cause us to change.
And Jesus Christ is the exemplar.
And Lord, John, thank you for the super chat, man.
Really appreciate it.
Good to see you.
All right, $30 TTS.
I think we're almost done with all the pre-show notes.
Oh, my God.
Hopefully, going to get this wrapped up within the next 10 minutes or so.
Let's see.
We were talking about your notes.
You guys were having a back and forth, I guess, on stuff on if you wanted to continue it or just move it along.
Back and forth away.
Jim Bob, you were having a back and forth with Charlie James.
Do you want to continue that or just should we just?
Oh, no, no.
I just wanted to ask you one thing, Chair One.
Have you ever been in your little chin?
Yes.
What'd she say?
I'll be fine.
Don't punch me in my chin.
Yes.
By a man who punched you full force in the little chin.
Yes.
That happened to you?
Yes.
And did you get knocked out?
No.
I can take a punch, and even if you punched me, I would get up and jiu-jitsu you.
I would choke you out.
She would.
I can take a punch.
I'm a professional athlete, and I would win that match, no matter what you're doing to me.
Are we actually gonna do this?
Have you went to an MMA gym?
Have you went to a jiu-jitsu gym?
Have you ever have you ever?
Yeah.
My little chin.
Realistic.
Professional athlete.
He's like your little child.
Realistically, that's what I mean.
It's different.
It's different.
Honestly.
So, even, okay, so my son, he's been in jiu-jitsu two years.
She's been in there her whole life.
It's very different.
Almost four years.
That's what.
So if you know anyone, but in general, if you know, it's very like.
They take it very seriously because you're training because you're putting your whole body into it.
MMA fighters who literally are in like UFC at one night.
I don't even know what you're talking about.
What are you talking about?
Okay.
Jiu-Jitsu, brother.
All right.
We have Pat Pasty.
Here we go.
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Chair one.
You would be demolished by a man with no rules and fist to bone.
Stop with your delusion.
You might as well say that you could take on a wild bear.
You guys should watch her YouTube.
Watch her highlight.
I'm a professional athlete and Jim Bob can come to 10th floor.
How tall are you?
I'm 5'4.5.
Wait, plug your YouTube.
Yeah, Taylor and Moore on YouTube.
I'm a professional jiu-jitsu athlete, and he can come to my gym and sign the waiver.
He's not like you.
I don't know about him, but it's a jiu-jitsu thing.
You don't want to listen, but it's a jiu-jitsu M35 because they're literally professionally trained to whoop your ass.
No, brother, I don't want you.
Literally, that's why because she knows that's what, like, you guys aren't getting it.
She knows.
That's why she's like, come on, let's do it.
Because I'm 135.
Yeah.
I'm 5'4.5.
And then, who, what was the size and the weight of the person, the man who punched you in the little chin that you?
I've literally had jiu-jitsu.
I had a jiu-jitsu match against a trans athlete who's over 200 pounds and I won that match.
I've done the absolute division.
Yes.
It was on Fox News.
Wow.
So the man, so who's the man who punched you in the face?
You said, I didn't say your jiu-jitsu competition.
I said, you said you were punched in the face in your little chinny chin chin by a man.
I asked you, how much did that man weigh?
About 180.
Many, quite a few.
I've done MMA sparring.
Sparring?
Yeah.
Oh, sparring.
I'm a sparring.
Okay, okay.
I understand where your delusion comes from.
No, you can come to the gym.
I would love for the whatever podcast to host that.
No, come to the gym.
Come to the gym.
You can punch me all you want.
Promise.
I won't cry.
If you win, that's fine.
Come to the gym.
You can punch.
I won't punch you.
Yeah, you can punch me in the face and I will double leg you clear onto the mat and win that match.
And if she wins, no, donate.
It can be however you want it.
However, you want it.
I will double-leg it clear onto the mat.
Okay, no problem.
And then armor.
Or I will guillotine you.
Yeah, however you want to do it.
Uh-oh.
However you want.
Jim Bob.
Just come through.
You'll take a full punch from shit.
Yes.
We will shake hands and then we will go at it.
And I will get up and you will be on the ground unconscious.
She did not come to play.
She's very confident.
I would be intimidating.
She's because she's confident, Jim Bob.
You can punch.
That's fine.
But I don't think you're even going to lay.
That's the thing.
You don't have to even show up to the multiple absolute matches about people who are over 200 pounds.
Here's what I'll do.
Have you ever been knocked out cold?
What the fuck, bro?
You can try it.
You can try.
I told you to come try to get away from it.
I told you to come to the gym.
I don't want to talk about it anymore.
I don't want to talk anymore.
I want you to come to the gym.
I want you to come to the gym.
I don't want to talk about it.
I want you to come to the gym.
Tiny Timmy.
What the fuck?
Come to the gym.
I don't want to talk about it.
You come.
You sign waiver.
You come.
You show.
You sign waivers.
I asked you a simple question.
You signed waiver.
It sounded like a Cubans.
I was like, VIP, we go to VIP.
I know.
I'm like, I don't want to see you better than you.
I want you to show up, sign waiver.
Shake hands.
Such a simple thing.
No, no one has succeeded.
Have you ever been knocked out cold?
Have you ever been choked out cold?
Because you can if you show up to the gym.
You can.
Oh, it can happen again for you, too.
Come to the gym.
It can happen again.
Come to the gym.
Come to the gym and it will happen again.
Okay, guys, guys, guys.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
She can't answer your question.
Here, I will.
We can talk behind the scenes, and if you guys want to get it arranged, we can do it.
But just for the sake of time, I'm going to move it on.
That's Taylor and Moore, YouTube.
Follow Jiu-Jitsu.
Watch my highlights.
Mother donated $30.
Ladies, please help my son, Brian.
He won't pay for dates, but the refusal to five on the accounts.
Brian, you broke motherfucker.
I thought you had it all.
Plus, he never calls me Mother's Day.
Oh, I'm working on the gift.
I'm already working on the gift.
Are you going to take him away from $30?
The deluded confidence of women who do martial arts is honestly pretty exhausting.
I'm not just a woman who randomly trains.
I'm a full-time professional athlete, so it's a little bit different.
She don't need you anything else other than train.
Thank you.
Chair One's arrogance will be her downfall.
Even if an average-size athletic male punched her with all his strength in the face, he would break her face.
Men are soft on her in the gym for this reason.
Gracie understood donated $30.
You were the best, but you were the worst.
As sick as it sounds, I was a joyful, it is what it is.
A habit to kick the age-old curse.
I tend to laugh whenever Rhyme is sad.
I stare at you.
Brady Harvey, bro.
I'm a three-stripe white belt and don't get subbed by the female brown belts.
Well, I did hear something like, like, so an untrained guy is gonna get smashed by like a girl who's like maybe purple belt and up, maybe blue belt and up.
But like a guy who's a blue belt is gonna smash even female black belts.
Depends on the size, but for sure.
I mean, I don't know.
That's maybe it's a bit off, but that's what I've heard.
We have emotional damage here, but Brady, thank for the $50.
Chair 4 seems to know so much about jiu-jitsu.
She talks about going to a gym, but her body looks like she ate a gym.
What the fuck?
Chair 4 has no business talking about physical activity other than opening her mouth for deer food.
That's crazy emotional damage.
That's crazy.
Thank you for the super chat, though.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for the super chat, guys.
Appreciate it.
I thought you said you were going to make it.
$30 TTS.
Guys, $30 TTS.
Okay, let's see.
Oh, my.
Damn, y'all are crazy.
Hold on.
Signed these nuts.
This is crazy.
Signed these nuts donated $30.
These 304s are delusional as fuck.
Y'all ain't doing shit and would get knocked the fuck out.
You know y'all will get y'all asses beat.
Stop the damn cap.
Who are you talking about?
Learn how to check out my highlights for H. Tasty George donated $30.
Chair 1.
I checked your videos.
You would get demolished by a man with no rules and fist to bone.
Those guys were taking it easy on you, and it shows in the videos.
Stop the delusion.
What guys in my videos are you talking about?
I have my jiu-jitsu highlights too against women, and in my and I had it.
I won a match against a 200-pounds trans individual.
She said I'm calling the looking at the girl.
I literally know.
Not watching.
I'll just think.
I'll just think.
Hyenas in chair three and four.
Constant hyena laughing is extremely frustrating.
Pure audio torture.
Both here to try.
Fuck you.
Which they flaked.
Salute to Brian and Jim.
Wink wink at Felicity.
How did I take my eyes off you?
Who?
Felicity.
I spelled it wrong, I think.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
All right.
By the way, Quinton, we're probably going to get this wrapped up soon, but if you want, we'll do for you, Quinton, hard stop at 12:30 if you need to get out of here.
Just FYI for you, Quinton, if you need to.
I know you might have stuff going on.
So that's like 10 minutes.
Let's see.
I think.
Oh, final notes here for our homegirl.
Carly.
Wow.
I knew what you're going to do.
I was like waiting for the C to come up.
Carly, you write.
Guys really just want to F these days and will love bomb you so hard to get it.
It's crazy how far they'll actually go.
But sleep with them or don't.
That's all the same outcome.
Based off of my experience and others, can any guy out there wait till marriage?
Are you waiting till marriage?
If the right guy came along and wanted to do it too.
Oh, if he wanted to wait till marriage.
Yeah, if we, yeah.
But you would also hit on first date.
Like Jake Gyllenhal?
Jake Gyllenhal's like trying to smash.
Boom.
I said earlier, I don't do one night's hands.
Okay, on the second date, Jake Gyllenhaal's trying to smash.
You're smashing, bruv.
Ruby's smashing.
You see how she's celibate.
Ruby, to me, it's not about sex in the relationship.
That's not, or dating, isn't it about that?
I don't know what you're saying.
That's not what I was asking.
I was just, would you like to.
You try to see if I would hit it.
No, that's not the point.
Wait, so Jake Gyllenhal tries to hit on the second date, but you know, if you don't smash, he's just, he's gone forever.
You don't smash?
That's not, that shouldn't be the reason to stay.
So no.
So everyone for you wants to smash, you just let it go.
But you're not a virgin.
I mean, I don't know.
You said your body counts like, what, 10 or something or six?
Is he pursuing a relationship with me?
Sure.
But he wants to smash on the second date.
And does it mean we're going to get into a relationship?
We already talked about it.
Like, I don't know.
There's no relationship, but I don't even like to date.
Like, I don't like to smash guys before we're in a relationship.
We'll do hypotheticals or whatever.
You want to carnal knowledge.
She doesn't like smash.
We'll say carnal knowledge.
I don't like to have.
Yeah, I don't like to have sex while we're dating.
I want to be in a relationship first.
That's ideal to be in a relationship.
But why, can any guy out there wait till marriage?
Would you have waited till marriage if you wouldn't have got it going?
Yeah.
That's all over the place.
You said when a guy asks you what you bring to the table, instead of wanting to provide, maybe he should just date a man?
Right, because if he wants me to provide, then maybe he should date a provider.
Like a man.
What?
Wait.
So if a guy asks a woman what they bring to the table, when men ask what women bring to the table, they're not talking about money.
They're not talking about resources or finances.
Sometimes they are because I got asked, would you treat me by a guy?
Like, oh, were you going to treat me?
Are you going to take me out?
So that's what it was a reference to.
He's a male model.
Oh, okay.
I sure.
At fashion show, that's where I met him.
But what do women bring to the table?
We talked about it earlier: emotional support.
Yeah, neck to the head.
Yeah, but don't men bring emotional support too in a way.
They bring like a let me ask this.
So the thing that men bring that women don't bring is protect, protecting, and providing, right?
Like those are the things you would, it may be like leadership, whatever.
So what are the things that women uniquely bring to the table that men don't or can't?
The portal of life.
The fuck?
Yeah, I don't, I don't want to have children.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So what do women uniquely bring in the same way that men are providers, protectors, leaders?
Caregivers, nurturers, we do a lot in terms of being there for the man.
Like the same thing.
Behind every great man, there's a good woman.
Give me an example of what it means to give me an example of caregiving or nurturing.
Well, if you, like you said, the man's providing and taking care of the woman, she's going to be at home cooking, cleaning.
We already talked about it.
And he's out here on his own.
So cooking and cleaning.
Okay, you'll do that.
Yeah, I mean cooking cleaning, but you're you're like someone you can talk to emotionally in the relationship and that would go the other way too.
You can add a lot of different aspects like women and men think different so he can use like that to his advantage too.
What?
Oh, she got she got a vein popping.
The mic's kind of blocking it, but I'm sorry, ma'am.
I'm you didn't give me chops.
You didn't ma'am, you didn't give me chopsticks at my table.
Can I have some chopsticks?
Oh, there they are.
Okay.
All right, I think that's pretty much it for all the notes.
Let me just double check here, make sure we got through everything.
Yeah, I think we got through pretty much everything.
We did is Juliet an escort?
What?
Oh, she was an escort.
No.
Julia.
Oh, I don't know.
Oh, no.
Okay, never mind.
The pitch.
Man, that would have been good.
She wanted to talk about the patriarchy.
That would have been good.
Okay, so we did Ruby.
Okay, yeah, we did.
Were there any other reacts, Quinton, that we were supposed to pull up?
Or I think we got through everything, all right?
Sweet.
Wait.
Okay.
So we have this chat.
Guys, final call.
Guys, it's going to be a final call on the TTS number wrapping.
Final call.
There's no doubt that you can win jiu-jitsu matches because there are rules.
However, in real fights with no rules, you would have to be a little bit worse.
Final call.
Final call on the TTS if anybody wants to get a last one in.
Any final thoughts from any of the panelists before I wrap this up?
Speak now?
Yeah, I wanted to know if you've ever been bitten in the larynx.
Watch!
What?
Wow.
I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings.
Enough for you to ask me if I've ever been bitten in the larynx.
Yeah, have you ever been bitten in the larynx?
No.
No, you can't bite.
You can't bite.
If we're going to have a match, that's the rule.
I don't care if you punch me because I don't even think you're going to land.
I think I would just double.
Biting.
Biting.
No biting allowed.
I am going to set that rule.
You can't bite me.
You can show up to the jam, but if you bite me, then I'm going to have to break your arm if you bite me.
Shit.
So, if you bite me, I will break your arm.
And those are my rules.
Even if you tap, I'll break your arm if you've bitten me.
Not if I bite your arm.
What?
I'll definitely break it if you bite me.
All right.
Okay.
I'll bit all your fingers off.
Okay.
Any final thoughts from any of the other panelists?
Speak now.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, hold up.
Show us the damage on the...
Hold it up. Hold it up.
I felt a bit oily.
Well, she almost got me.
She's all wow.
Almost got me.
All right.
If there's any others that are coming through, I'll let them come through, but I'll kind of get through the outro here.
Okay, so I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this as a moment, as an opportunity to give a call to action to you, to you, and to you.
Would you guys consider stopping sex work entirely tonight?
No.
No, why?
Okay, I tried to.
That's it.
I tried.
Okay, that's all the effort I'm putting into that.
So, okay, we did body count, we did grading, we did menu.
Guys, also, I just want to remind you, I get the most beautiful women on my show.
We had a 10, a 9 point something, a 12 or 15.
Shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up.
I am outside are you?
You know what?
I'm not playing none of this fake shit.
Talking about fake ass.
Earlier, what did he say?
First of all, none of you are 10.
You said tens don't exist.
Yeah, you said tens don't exist.
I know, but look, we can't be tension.
I'm just saying, I get the most beautiful women on the panel.
Like, I am a, I should start a modeling agency with the amount of beautiful women that are just coming through my studio.
I am a model.
Like, thank you for being.
Just like, I feel the aura from all of you.
You guys are.
I'm so evil.
I literally am a model.
What's that?
You love to comment on my poses to be shot.
I'm not talking about you.
What is it?
He's cheating on me.
What do you mean?
You said that.
No, earlier you're talking about none of us are tens.
Yeah, he's being sarcastic.
He's being sarcastic right now.
He called himself a five.
He still means it.
Yeah, I guess.
Wait, I'm confused.
Why?
I think he called himself a four.
I don't understand.
No, I said a five.
Oh, okay.
That's okay.
I think they do.
I might be a four today.
I feel like I'm a little beautiful, glorious.
I'm a little blurred.
You're holy-looking women.
Wait, so what?
Nothing.
I was just saying you're evil because you're hating.
But it's not hating, bro.
It's not hating.
Are you honest right now?
I don't need to.
He's guiding you.
He's guiding me.
I'm guiding you with the crystals and the Taurus.
What is Barbara?
What's behind?
What's with this?
Yeah, I knocked one over to make sure the energy is legit.
You believe in that?
Not really.
Yeah, but anyway, I know.
You didn't come across as this footstep.
I'm not a Christian.
How much did you pay for each one?
Like 25?
Brian.
Are you a Taurus?
Where'd you get them?
10 bucks.
I don't know.
So let me, guys, let me wrap the show.
Come on, guys.
Let me wrap the show.
Oh, no.
Wait, shit.
What was the thing?
Sorry, guys.
What was the thing?
It's 12:30.
Oh, my God.
It's 12:30.
You said we hardly know.
My name is 2:30.
I go out to the bars and clubs.
I don't go to bars.
It's past my bedtime.
She's 18.
I go to college parties and I drink white claws.
I don't drink.
White claws are good.
She doesn't drink.
I don't drink on everything I drink.
I believe that she doesn't drink.
White claws taste like TVD.
My name is Mac.
Okay, so anyways.
Wait, what the.
Damn, what was the thing?
Are you really autistic?
Yes, I had to.
You haven't detected.
I just didn't want to be rude.
I think I have a lot of people.
I haven't detected the levels of autism here.
Oh, yeah.
I think that's why I trained jiu-jitsu.
I think that I was making a joke that I think that Oh, that's why you do jujitsu It's because you have autism.
But you don't actually think Jim Bob threatening you there.
I know.
Stop.
That really hurts.
Sorry, Jim Bob.
What though is a black power pistol?
Sorry.
I'll tell your wife I'm sorry too I'm specifically talking about Jim Bob though Oh, what is a woman?
That's what I wanted to ask.
What is a woman?
What is a woman?
Somebody with XX chromosomes who is born a woman who identifies as a woman right now.
The fuck?
Okay.
I'm going to piggyback off of that.
If you were born at birth, a woman.
If you're born a female at birth, you're a woman.
Okay.
A woman?
Yes.
What is a woman?
What is a woman?
Yeah.
Someone with ass and tits and pussy.
But earlier weren't you like...
I never said none of that.
Okay.
Okay.
That was the medical.
Yeah, that's.
Quick, Oh, my God.
Answer the question.
Holy shit.
Bad bitches.
I don't know.
I need to get Quentin some in and out of her.
Come on.
I want a chromosome.
Quinton?
The fucking.
Tarantino.
Go ahead.
XX chromosome.
Okay.
What is a woman?
What Taylor said.
No, what you said.
Okay, biologically a woman.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Identify as a woman.
Wait, hold on.
Identifies as a woman?
I don't know.
At birth.
Yes.
At birth.
It's a woman.
No.
See how you are?
XX chromosome.
XX chromosomes.
A person who is born with XX chromosomes.
All right.
There it is, folks.
There it is.
That's what a woman is.
Good job.
Good job.
I'm so proud of all of you.
Thank you.
So, GG.
Appreciate it.
Well played.
To the panel.
Last call.
Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
I appreciate that.
Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
I want to give a big shout out to my boy back there, Quinton, on the ones and twos.
W's in the chat for Quinton, guys.
We will be live again Sunday.
Or wait, are we doing a debate?
Oh, we might be doing a debate.
I think that's on Saturday.
Wait.
Yeah, we're actually, I think we're doing a debate on Saturday.
Wait.
I think Saturday, but anyways, dating talk will be back Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
Thank you guys so much.
Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
07's in the chat.
Let me just double check.
Oh, sorry.
Two more chats came through.
Gotta let these through, guys.
Jazz 2-3 donated $50.
Share one.
WNBA players are pro-athletes, too, but have no chance against street players.
Wait, what?
Chair 5 for deporting prostitutes like you is real creativity.
What the hell?
2304 are just 304s.
Justin Martin's donated $30.
I'm so happy right now.
You gotta make this fight happen, Brian.
Consider it payback for making us listen to these delusional carpes week after week.
I'm waiting.
We'll do.
We'll do.
Okay, so let me just double check, make sure we're all good on everything.
I think everything looks good.
We're good to go.
And that was final thoughts from everybody.
Just want to double check?
This was fun.
Can you set up the match as my final thoughts?
Yeah, I'll be there.
Yeah, I'll fight any bitches.
Quentin.
You don't have to do anything, Quentin.
I'll just, yeah, you're fine.
No, it's all you're all good.
Thank you.
So, okay, guys.
Wait, sorry, let me just double check.
No, we're good.
Okay.
07's in the chat.
07's in the chat.
Good night, guys.
I hope you guys have a good night.
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