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April 21, 2025 - Whatever Podcast
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ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE?! 62 Year Old vs. Andrew/Rachel! He Brought His MOM On A Date?! | Dating Talk #239

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With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, location.
So like where you're from, occupation, and education.
Go ahead, starting with you.
My name's Eva.
I'm 24.
I'm occupation.
Yeah, occupation.
I'm a fitness coach, and I graduated with a BS in kinesiology, and I'm based in San Diego.
All right, based in San Diego.
And did you go to UCSD?
SDSU.
SDSU.
Okay, and you got your BS from there?
Yes, correct.
All right, cool.
Welcome.
And you're always from San Diego?
Like, that's where you grew up?
I moved there for school.
I moved around a lot, but mainly lived in San Jose the longest.
Got it.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm Chloe Yummy, and I'm 18 years old, and I do Instagram and OnlyFans.
Okay.
And where are you from?
Charlotte, North Carolina.
Okay.
And any university, college?
No, sadly not.
Okay.
Like a semester or something, or no?
No.
Okay.
All right.
How long have you been doing OF for?
About like five months now.
When did you turn 18?
May 27th.
So I'm going to go to the next one.
So like a couple months.
Okay, so a couple months after you turned it, you didn't like, some of these girls would like drop it right on their 18th birthday, which is a little bit different.
No, it was like a couple months ago.
A couple months after you turned 18, okay.
All right.
What about you?
My name is Teresa.
I am 30 years old.
I'm based out of Los Angeles.
I'm a DJ.
And before I became a DJ, I graduated the registered massage therapy program.
Massage therapy, okay.
Any university or like normal standard college?
It was a college back in Canada.
Oh, you're from Canada?
Yeah.
Okay.
What part of Vancouver?
Toronto?
Vancouver?
Vancouver.
Okay.
Is there like a nickname for you guys?
Raincouver, because it rains all the time.
Vancouver.
Raincouver.
Vancouver.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
Okay.
So Vancouver.
And you said you got a massage therapy license?
Yeah.
Any like undergrad, like I mean, when I went to college, it was basically all the courses were within the program.
Okay.
Got it.
Cool.
And how long have you been in Los Angeles for?
Four years.
Are you trying to get like citizenship or do you have work in progress?
So you have like a green card or how does that work?
Like a visa to work here or how does it work?
Are you an illegal immigrant?
Long story, but work in progress.
Oh, okay.
Watch out.
With the new administration, they're going to deport you.
Okay, cool.
So welcome.
What about you?
Oh, wait, actually, sorry.
You said you're a DJ.
Do you also do music production?
I just released a remix, my first track, last month.
I DJ'd Rolling Loud this last month and last year.
Okay.
What kind of, what's the music that you produce or DJ?
I'm trying to tap into the house music scene.
Trying to step away from hip-hop and go into the more EDM bag.
Okay.
Do you sing too or just produce?
I do not sing.
Okay, just like produce and DJ.
Got it.
All right.
What about you?
My name's Lauren.
I am here from Houston, Texas.
I went to high school in Houston, but I was in San Diego for 10 years.
So glad to be back here in California.
I have a chemistry bachelor's of science from Trinity University.
Age?
Oh, I'm 36.
36, okay.
Yeah.
And what else?
Also, oh, I wrote a little book.
It's called Crazy Good.
Okay, what's that about?
It's mental health, like advocacy.
It's a poetry book, too.
So I spit bars.
You spit bars.
Okay, there you go.
All right.
And, okay, from Texas.
And you said you got your degree in what again, sorry?
Chemistry.
Is it a master's, bachelor's?
No, BS.
B.S. in chemistry, okay.
It got published in undergrad, too.
Oh, you had like a paper published in what journal?
Chemistry, the European Journal.
Okay, what was the area of focus on that?
It had to do with Cucurbit eight-year-old in benzobisomidazoleum and being able to do thermodynamic studies of that.
I know all about that.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Cool.
What about you?
I'm Holly.
I'm 62 years old from Burbank.
I am an author, artist.
I went to Pasadena Art Center with children's stories and Foster in Kleiser where they used to paint the billboards.
Painted Warner Brothers billboards in my early years.
They don't do that anymore now.
Okay.
All right.
And sorry, and have you been in the LA area for most of your life?
Yeah.
Burbank.
Forever.
Forever.
Yeah.
Okay.
Forever.
Traveled the world with Burbank.
All right, cool.
Welcome, welcome.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Jade.
I'm 32 from Los Angeles, California, and I'm a DJ and producer.
And I have a bachelor's in media management from Cal State Northridge.
Cal State Northridge.
Okay, got it.
And what do you, do you do any singing?
I used to do a little singing, but I realized I like DJing and producing a lot more.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
I'm Amanda.
I'm 36.
I'm a TV film hairstylist.
I live in Los Angeles.
I have a bachelor's from UC Santa Barbara, and I have my cosmetology license.
Oh, you went here to see?
I went here.
UCSB.
Okay.
You graduated when?
In 2011.
2011.
And sorry, your degree was in what?
In sociology, and I minored in writing.
Okay, sociology, minor in writing.
Got it.
Okay.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Evelyn.
I'm 36 years old.
I'm a lawyer.
I'm from Argentina, but I'm living in LA since one year and a half.
And here I'm trying to become an actress.
And I've been working as a model and actress my whole life.
So now I'm 100% sure that this is my thing.
And you were a lawyer in Argentina?
Yeah.
You're not a lawyer.
No.
Okay.
Here.
What made you, I guess, or how long have you been practicing law?
Law, like 12 years?
Oh, yeah, but I quit because I needed to come here.
I needed to be in Hollywood in LA and pursue my dreams.
So that's why I'm here right now.
And you said you moved here about a year ago?
Yeah, one year and a half.
Okay.
And what's the procedure, I guess, the process for becoming an attorney in Argentina?
Like, so do you go to normal university, and then once you finish with that, you go to law school?
No, it's completely different in South America.
You finish your high school like after five or six years, and then you go to university right away, and then you study for six years or five.
Yeah.
So, and then you complete, and then you are a lawyer.
What was your area of practice?
Financial law and economic law.
I'm writing my thesis right now because I want to finish my PhD, but I'm in the process right now.
Yeah, okay.
And you did, you did actually practice law, though, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was working for the justice.
Okay, gotcha.
What do you think about the new president of Argentina?
Malay.
Malay.
Do you like him?
Yeah, it's a big change for us.
But yeah, I'm happy.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, I know.
I know him.
So, yeah, it's a big change for us, but hopefully, everything is going to be better now.
And we are happy because we need it.
We need this change.
So, it's good.
Okay, all right.
Well, welcome.
Thank you.
All right, we're going to go around the table once more.
So, what is everybody's current relationship status?
So, are you single, talking stage, situation, whatever it is?
If you're single, how long have you been single?
And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you?
I'm in a relationship.
All right, how long have you guys been together?
A year and a half.
All right, one and a half.
And then, is this your longest relationship?
No.
What was your longest relationship?
Two years.
Two years.
Okay.
In your two-year relationship, who broke up with who?
I broke up with him.
All right.
And I'm trying to think.
And these are, you've only dated these two guys, is that correct?
Okay, all right.
And okay, what about you?
I have a boyfriend.
I actually do OnlyFans with him, and I love him.
How long have you been with him?
Like a year now.
One year.
Have you had any other relationships, or is this it?
Yeah, I had four other boyfriends before him.
Okay.
How old is he?
My boyfriend's 22.
22.
So he was, is that?
So he's 21 and you were 17?
Okay.
All right.
Okay, so you've been, and wait.
So you had been dating him and it was his, was it his idea to start the OF or was it yours?
No, it was my, I mean, I wouldn't say it was my idea, but my old manager, he reached out to me on Instagram and I didn't have any followers at the time.
And he said that I would be like perfect for like cosplay and OnlyFans and stuff.
And he like brought me into OnlyFans.
And then like a month ago, I just now started doing videos with my boyfriend.
Okay, got it.
Has your boyfriend expressed any like did he not want you to start OF or was he cool with it?
Honestly, he was really supportive and he really enjoys like being on OnlyFans.
He doesn't do OnlyFans.
He actually like wears like a scream mask in all of my videos so you can't even like see his face.
Wait, what is it?
A toggle?
What is it?
A scream mask.
He wears a scream mask.
Oh, okay, from the movie.
All right.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm exclusively dating someone right now, but we're not in a committed relationship yet.
All right.
So, not a relationship yet.
Yet.
But you're not single.
Or are you single?
I mean, technically I am, but I am exclusively dating someone and feeling out the connection to see if it can become a committed relationship.
How long have you guys been talking, I guess?
We've been talking since the end of February.
So like two months?
Yeah.
Two months.
Okay.
What's your longest relationship?
Almost five years.
Five years.
All right.
Who broke up with who?
I broke up with him.
Okay.
And then prior to meeting this new guy, how long had you been single?
Four months.
Four months.
Got it.
Was that the one that the five-year relationship that ended four months ago?
Okay.
What was your second longest relationship?
Second longest.
So you said you had a five-year one?
Probably a year and a half.
Year and a half.
Got it.
Okay.
Who broke up with who?
I also broke up with him.
Of all your relationships, did you always end it?
Yes.
Every single one?
There's not like one guy.
One guy did break my heart.
Okay.
It was like in elementary school or something.
No, it was like two years ago, I'd say.
I was probably one of my most toxic relationships.
What did you do that was so toxic?
I mean, I didn't think I was toxic.
Oh, the relationship, it's no.
It was him, though, toxic.
I mean, it takes two to tango.
Okay, so you were also, both of you were being toxic.
I'd say I was only toxic because I didn't know how to like fend for myself or stand up for myself.
I just let him walk all over me.
I see.
Okay, good times.
Good times.
What about you?
So I am dating myself right now.
Self-love.
Yeah.
We love that.
Self-love.
So.
Okay.
So, yeah, I'm just kind of doing my own thing right now.
And it's really fun.
I like it.
My longest relationship was five years.
He broke up with me.
Okay.
Five years?
How long have you been dating yourself?
Since July of last year.
I was engaged, and so I got disengaged.
Ever married?
Never.
Any kids?
None.
Okay.
You got disengaged.
Yeah.
Was this the five-year guy?
No.
Did you date yourself?
Yeah.
You know how to show it?
How do you decide where to go to dinner, though?
Andrew, you got to wait because we don't have you yet.
You got to wait.
Waiting to see your face.
so go ahead um no i mean it just means that if someone my tech guy doesn't doesn't know how to So you're going to have to wait until I understand.
You got to wait until I'm back there.
Go ahead.
It just means that I'm not really looking to date anyone, but I just am most interested in progressing my career, where I'm going.
But not because I don't want to get married and stuff, but just more so because I want to be in my true authentic self.
And whenever I'm in a relationship, I'm so intense that I kind of forget a little bit about who I am.
Okay, so you sorry, you've been single/slash dating yourself for how long?
Since July.
So like almost a year.
Yeah, sure.
Nine months, something like that.
Okay.
Dating self.
Okay.
Do you get in arguments with yourself?
No, no.
It's a very peaceful relationship.
It's a peaceful relationship.
Okay.
It's very peaceful.
All right.
Are you going to marry yourself, you think?
No.
Not marry?
Some people do that.
I have heard of them.
You could marry your dog.
Do you have any pets?
Ain't no way.
You can.
You can marry them.
You can marry like pillows and stuff.
I think they do that.
It is a thing.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm ghosted and I'm hit on by married men.
Wait.
Ghosts?
What does ghosted mean?
What do you mean?
Ghosted means you had something rocking red hot and then they vaporize and you're going, Whoa, where?
Why the twilight dog?
What the hell just happened to me?
You have something out of sight.
It's the best thing that's ever come along.
Wow.
Damn.
And then you go, I was just hit by a Mac truck.
What the hell was that?
Are you a fabulous act?
Who are you?
And you've known the person for eight years.
Eight years?
Eight years.
You knew, like you dated him for eight years before you knew him.
I was introduced to him through my niece.
And at the time I was introduced to him, he was one of these guys that went to Burning Man.
And I'm going to talk about those guys.
Okay, I know all about those guys.
I'm an artist, but I'd like, I'm not like that kind of artist, but whatever.
So we put that on the back burner.
But over the years, he'd see me at art shows and he was a really great guy.
But I thought, God, there's something amiss.
December, he comes up to me at the art show, and I go, Hey, you know, buddy, how are you?
And he goes, I've got cancer.
And all of a sudden, just a flood of emotions come over me that I just wanted to hug him and hold him and go, it's going to be okay, you know.
And I go, have you heard about Ivermectin?
Have you heard about Finn Benzedra?
And he's going, what, what?
I go, listen, I listen to these podcasters, and this stuff cures cancer, and nobody's telling anybody about it.
I'm going, I'll give you all the information.
And I thought to myself, you know, it's like Christmas time.
And I'm going, get him in the spirit to be happy, you know.
And there's a restaurant that has carolers that play.
And I said, I sent him an email.
I said, hey, we got to go out to celebrate the holidays.
You know, there's carolers.
You're going to feel like a million bucks.
You know, just to get him out of the get the energy positive.
And so we go, and he goes, I have been looking forward to this all day because I've thought about you all day.
We have a fabulous time.
You know, we leave.
It's Christmas time.
My cat dies the next two days and I'm like, so sad.
And he's like sending me text messages and being like really positive.
And then he wants to come over and he takes me out to lunch and things are just rocking.
Takes me out to a lunch a few times.
And then I'm a patriot, if you guys can't tell.
Hello.
And I'm going back to the inaugural, right?
But they're changing the inaugural because it's so cold there, right?
All the tickets that I have.
Wait, I'm sorry.
Okay.
I'm going to let you tell the story, but I just want to get everybody in here.
Okay, okay.
But so, okay, you're ghosted.
So you're single.
And hit on by married men.
You get hit on by married men.
Yes.
Okay.
Are you dating any of the married men?
No, I just found out they were married and I can tell you how to spot them.
Okay.
Is it the ring?
No.
Is that usually the way?
They never wear rings.
Oh, they take it off.
Yeah.
Or they just don't have it on.
And so, okay, longest relationship?
That one's a hard one to answer because you can say, it's over.
And then a couple of years.
Try not to bang.
It's okay.
No, you're fine.
Just try not to bang on the table.
So you try and cut ties and you're serious.
You look them straight in the eye.
You go, it's done.
It's over.
And then you keep fucking them for three months.
No, they come back.
You got to count the three months.
They go.
If you don't count them, I was in the area.
You were in the area.
You were in the area.
Yeah, I'm not looking for like year, month, day, just like an approximation, like three years, four years, five years.
Longest relationship.
You can't even count it because it just kept going on, even though you cut it off.
Yeah, you can't just count.
So if it was like on again, off again, just even, fuck it, just include the off period.
So like 10 years?
Here it is.
Probably 15.
90.
Probably 91.
But I was dating other people.
You dated a guy from 87 to 99.
That right?
Okay.
Is that give me the years?
I can't even think of the years.
I can't remember the years.
Was friends on TV?
Was Bill Clinton the president?
Yeah.
At one point he was.
Was the Monica Lewinsky shit?
Did that happen?
Monica Lewinsky?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was there a little bit.
You dated Bill Clinton?
Did you date Bill Clinton?
No.
No.
No, okay.
Would you?
He thought he was.
Oh.
He freaking thought he was.
He looked like Elmer Fudd, but he thought.
He thought he was president.
Okay, so what should I put?
10 years, longest relationship?
Because it's not even a relationship.
He just happened to be in my life, okay?
You know, I cut it.
Were you having carnal knowledge?
Sexual intercourse.
It was fabulous.
It was the sex.
It was fabulous.
No, but the guy that you dated for the longest period of time.
Okay, it was on, it was off.
Can I tell you this?
Okay, can I tell you when he came?
One of the times he came back in my life.
Well, this one's so juicy, you'd flip out.
Save it because I'll get to it.
Well, I'll let you say it.
Okay.
Because I need to get up for a moment.
So when I get up and I figure out all the tech stuff, you just have the floor.
But what I do need, longest relationship.
I wouldn't call it a relationship.
Whatever.
A fuck buddy.
At least.
A fuck buddy.
At least 15 years.
Sneaky link.
Have you had the sneaky link?
Sneaky link?
I don't even denote that for me.
I don't know what that is.
Somebody who any Gen Z people want to explain that you just link up together, but do you know what link?
Oh, sorry.
I'm not linking up with anybody.
It's a relationship or nothing.
But what happens is they're doing the sneaky link while you're thinking you're having a relationship is what the problem is.
Okay, well, how long did you think you had the relationship for?
Every time he came back.
How long did he keep coming back for?
At least 15 years.
I would just say 15 years.
15 years.
Okay.
15 years.
Yeah.
Was it before the millennium or when was it?
When was the God blessed to try and think this one out?
How long ago was that?
It was 10 years ago was the last time I said, just get the hell out of my life.
So it's like Obama.
Who's president?
10 years ago.
Obama.
God, I don't know who was president.
What was 10 years ago?
Who was that?
Who was Obama?
It was Obama.
Yeah.
Yeah.
His second term, like the tail end.
And he tried to win my heart by donating blood to get me a 31 flavors ice cream cone.
Did it work?
Yes, it did work.
No.
Okay.
I thought, how long have you been single, I guess?
My whole life.
Well, I mean.
So you've never been married.
Correct.
But when I say single, I mean it in the sense of like you've had relationships.
Yes.
Yeah.
You describe yourself as a seasoned dater.
Yes.
We will get into that.
Okay.
What about you?
So I am in a relationship.
Been in once for two and a half years.
And my longest relationship was five years.
All right.
Five-year relationship.
Who broke up with who?
He broke up with me.
Okay.
What did you do?
We just grew apart, to be honest.
And I feel like we weren't giving our best selves in the relationship.
So he just cut it.
We were engaged too.
So that was, yeah.
Yeah, that was a crazy one.
But those were the best.
Good times.
Good times.
All right.
What about you?
I am single.
My longest relationship was six years.
It ended mutually.
And I'm currently single.
I've been officially single since like last summer.
I was dating pretty exclusively.
So, would you say like nine months or so?
Sure.
You've been single?
Okay.
No guys in the picture?
None.
Nobody?
Zero?
Zero.
Phone's dry.
Phone's dry.
Are you on any dating apps?
I am not.
I was for a very long time, but not anymore.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
My last relationship ended up when the pandemic started, and I was with him for almost five years.
And yeah.
And we were about to move together when that happened.
So it was kind of shocking for me.
But now I'm perfect.
So I think it was my best decision ever.
So longest relationship was five years?
Five years, yeah.
And then you're single currently, correct?
Yeah.
And before that, I had another relationship for four years.
Okay, the five-year relationship, did you end it?
I ended up, yeah.
And then the four-year relationship, did you end it?
I also ended up.
Okay.
And you've been single for how long?
Five years.
Five years.
Okay.
Has there been, in that five-year period, though, has there been some rebound?
Not at all.
Nothing in.
Have you dated any men in Los Angeles?
I try, but has she said they ghosted me some of those.
So now I'm just focusing my career and in myself, has she said?
So yeah.
So yeah.
I don't want to invest time right now in something if I know that I'm not 100% there right now because actually I'm more focusing myself.
Okay, cool.
That's everybody's relationship status.
We'll get into some of that.
Just really quickly, is anybody here currently on the dating app?
I haven't deleted Bumble yet.
You still use it?
No, it's not active.
It just exists on my phone.
Okay.
I don't know.
I don't know if this is a dating app or not, but on my phone, right?
When I go to...
No. What do you want?
When I go to my Facebook, right?
It's got a little heart, right?
So I hit on the little heart and I'm going, oh my God, I've got all these weirdos hitting on me.
The married mess or the married mask.
Facebook dating, not the spot.
Yeah, I don't think.
You should get on Farmers Only.
Oh, there's Tinder, there's Hinge, there's Bumble.
There's all these apps.
Anybody in the chat?
You know, maybe somebody will find you some love tonight on the show.
Somebody watching?
All right.
Here, so I need to get up for a moment, but why don't you tell us?
Tell us.
So you described that you were a seasoned dater.
It's going to take me a minute or two to get that figured out.
So just go into it.
Tell us about your season dating or maybe the story that you shared in the thing.
Season dating just means that you've dated for years.
And you haven't cracked the code because, oh my gosh, it feels like the impossible dream.
It really does.
And I know that there's people that actually fall in love even at my age and older because I've seen them and I've never seen them happier.
One of my friends, Tony, lives right here in Ventura.
He met a girl that lived in his neighborhood and he started calling her while she was married and she was miserably married and she divorced him, moved to Ventura.
They got a classic little 69 Volkswagen bus and one of those Duffy boats.
So they hang out at the beach and the bus camping and they cruise around and they're so happy.
It's so fun to see them because it gives me hope, you know?
Who's another one that just got me?
Oh, this other guy, this other guy, he's loaded, he's filthy rich, lives in Florida, and he's always at Mar-a-Lago.
And he married, he's 80 years old, but he's like Trump where he's like really cool, doesn't look it, super stylish.
Met a woman that's 75 that looks like his freaking twin.
And they travel in their motorhome everywhere.
He was over in Africa doing a hotter balloon tour.
And I was talking to him on Facebook as he's like scanning everything.
But I'm going, it happens.
It may happen later, you know?
Are you always like searching for love?
No, I wasn't even searching when the last few have come up to me.
I'm going, this is a nightmare.
You know, I just had a dude that looked at my, I was walking into Staples last week and the guy walks up to me and he goes, oh, look at your nails.
And I go, right on, Corvette Red.
And he looks at my face and he goes, you're really beautiful.
And I go, you are my favorite person.
And then he just kept walking with me.
And I'm thinking, okay, this is weird because normally guys, if they like you, they're kind of like a little bit more skittish.
They don't tell you like, you're beautiful, you know.
It doesn't happen like that.
And I walk in, I'm thinking.
I think it's the opposite.
I feel like if they're like like you a lot, they're shyer.
Yes.
You know, that's what I'm saying.
They don't want to like go up to you.
Like, yes.
Unless you're like super confident, but in my opinion.
Those are the married ones.
And I thought to that to myself as I was going in the store and he was following me and wanted my phone number.
I'm thinking, dude, you were too confident.
You know, and I'm going, oh, I'm starting to like back away because I didn't really observe my surroundings.
And I thought, how did he like spot me in an empty parking lot?
What was it that signals that I was giving off?
And sure enough, I talked to him.
Oh, yeah, he's divorced.
I'm going, I don't buy this story.
I'm separated.
I said, who do you live with?
He said, oh, my mom and my kids.
And, you know, we're separated.
I said, you're married, dude.
You're married.
You know, that is so wrong to do.
I'm sorry.
I put it all over Facebook.
I was so pissed off.
And then all the married guys are going, married guys are horny too.
And I'm going, I hate all of you.
I just hate all of you.
What happened to the faithful ones?
Are there?
Is there?
There have to be some of them.
Somewhere.
We're hoping.
Do you want to be married?
I've wanted to be married my whole life.
But you know what?
I feel extremely blessed that I found out who the person was before I got married because I would have been heartbroken.
And some girls just look for a wedding.
They think, God, if I can have my wedding, and then they have no clue what they're in for.
I had so many girlfriends at the age of 20 to 25 to get married to be divorced by 25 and on their second marriage.
And it shattered them.
It shattered their whole being because they thought that this was it.
And I just went, wow.
Why do you think you're not married?
Like, do you think that it's the guys that you're choosing?
Or is it something that you're doing you think is your fault?
Kai Bach, I think you're the gifted 20 subs.
Go ahead.
I think you get what you get in life.
You know, because I don't feel that you can really choose a man.
You know, I didn't.
Did you just hang on?
Did you just use the life as like a box of chocolates quote?
No.
You never know what you're going to get.
Well, I did say you never know what you're going to get.
It's a Forrest Gump quote.
And look at what happened to Forrest.
You know, going on to be a multi-billionaire.
Hanging on for Jenny, you know, just hanging on for Jenny.
Didn't she have HIV?
Yes.
Yeah.
And Jenny's pointing the world.
You know, I mean, it's like, that guy was in love.
We all should be so lucky.
All right, we'll come back to that in a moment.
Really quick, I do want to thank someone.
It doesn't show who.
I don't know.
I got to figure it out in Streamlabs.
Total, thank you.
I think you bought a hoodie or a sweater on our, that's, what's it called?
On the whatever.com.
Wait, no, shop.whatever.com.
Someone bought one of our hoodies.
Thank you, man.
And on this, my mom on this.
Thank you for the membership.
Appreciate it.
All right, so we're going to get into some of the pre-show notes here.
And let's see, where do we begin?
You know, Holly, we're going to come back to some of your stuff, but no kids, right?
Anybody here have kids?
No kids?
Anybody?
Kids?
Kids?
Okay.
You know what?
I'm going to start with Chloe.
Chloe.
What happens?
What did you write in your notes here?
Why don't you tell us?
I don't remember what my notes were.
you pass out when um i the only thing i remember is that i didn't really circle anything because no no not the not the not this in the messages on instagram Oh, um, like what I wanted to talk about on the podcast.
Yeah.
Um, so basically, I'm like nervous to say, but I'm just gonna say, I've never really talked about it ever, not even to like most of my girlfriends.
Um, but do you guys know what like celiac disease is?
Um, so I'm basically gluten-free ever since I was younger, and I can't really like absorb like vitamins good.
So I get really dizzy easily.
And um, so this is so embarrassing, but um, during sex, like I tend to like pass out every single time.
And I'm I've been to like many doctors and like no one really knows why.
And like I've been on different medications, but nothing like works for me.
And I can pass out from anywhere from like one minute to like 10 minutes long.
Wait, so is it when you orgasm or like?
No, it could be very, it doesn't even have to be like super intense.
Like if someone's like eating me out or fingering me or having sex, like I just pass out.
This only happens during sex?
No, fingering.
No, no.
Well, does it happen you're on a trailer?
No, not no, not exercise.
I was going to say that I did dance for like my whole life.
I never had any like problems with passing out.
It's just the sex.
So you don't pass out under any other circumstances?
No.
You think it's psychological?
Some of my doctors said that it could be like a trauma response to the feeling of like that feeling.
But I don't think that's it.
I think I don't know what's wrong with me.
You know what, Andrew?
You know what this reminds me of?
He has penis lepsy.
What is that?
Like epilepsy, but with like penis.
so andrew that that woman that you were debating with uh when you were here in person uh she would say that if someone was if she was dating a guy and this is like a yeah is it great it's it's like You ask if it's great, but she would say it's like essay, technically.
I don't think so, that's definitely not.
Yeah.
So is it, well, would it be?
Like, so if you're having sex with a guy and you pass out, is it essay then?
Because you're like technically unconscious?
I mean, no, because I have like told them before I have to like warn them because I don't want them to be like that, you know, feel bad or like I'm being really worried about it.
Yeah.
Well, Kenzie would certainly say it is, but question for you.
Are there any, because of your condition, and it is a condition.
Yeah.
Are there any things that you can't do?
Like, because I can imagine there's just certain scenarios where it could be dangerous.
Yeah.
So I really like.
Like certain positions and shit.
Well, yeah.
So in the shower or bathtub.
Standing up.
Yeah, standing up.
Can't do that.
Or outside somewhere.
Like, I've had shower sex with my boyfriend, but I, like, it is, it could be bad, like, but he just holds me, I guess.
I don't know.
And are you out for how long?
So they say anywhere from like one minute to like 10 minutes long.
But for me, I don't feel the time at all.
It's just like whenever I pass out to whenever I wake up.
It's like severance.
Has anybody seen that show?
Yeah, yeah.
Now, I'm sorry, I didn't catch at the very beginning because there was a bit of technical difficulties.
Did you say that you have an OF?
Yeah, I do.
Of course.
Yeah, yeah.
So, and it does seem to be mighty convenient that you happen to have a condition which doesn't affect you in any way, shape, or form throughout the entire rest of your life, except for this one thing, which happens to be sex related.
No, and super bizarre.
Celiac does affect other things too.
So I can't like eat any gluten at all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I'm very familiar with celiac disease.
I understand how it works, right?
I've never heard of celiac pass-out sex disease before, but you know, there's new conditions I hear about all the time.
It's just awful convenient, though, that this one thing that has to do with the one thing tied to your profession, right, happens to affect that, but no other real aspect of your life except you have to eat a clean diet.
Well, it's very real, and I have to deal with it every single time I have sex, and it's really affected like my relationships.
So I understand why you think maybe I'm lying about it, but I'm not.
Can I ask a question?
Don't you do corn?
So isn't that like you pass out on camera?
No, I just film like me okay, but I have thought about maybe filming it for people that would be interested in it, but it's just very interesting.
There we go.
You thought about maybe making some content related to this.
It's quite the shtick, huh?
I've never.
Hey, girl has sex and passes out.
She can't take penis because she passes out.
Awful convenient that you're going to turn this into content, isn't it?
Almost like it's calculated and possibly not quite true.
Just saying.
Just pointing it out.
I appreciate your opinion, but it really is real and it really affected my relationship before because one of the reasons why me and him broke up is because, you know, on Snapchat, like you have like the thing that you put a password in to see your private camera roll on Snapchat.
So I don't know.
I don't remember why, but we were arguing and I wanted to see what was in his like Snapchat camera roll.
I thought it was going to be like porn or other girls.
Like so I was arguing with him and he finally opened it and it was like videos of me passed out and I had no idea that he ever recorded me and this was way before I was doing OF.
A couple questions for you.
So you said you've seen you've been to doctors about this?
Yeah.
Okay.
How many different doctors?
Probably like four.
Have you seen a psychologist?
No.
Psychiatrist?
No.
So what kind of doctors do you go to?
Like just your general doctor?
Just a regular general doctor.
Your general doctor.
Or urgent care.
And you've been given a diagnosis or no?
They always say it's either like a trigger from trauma or it's the celiac because I have like I can't absorb vitamins and that can make me dizzy, but I don't like I don't have issues anywhere else.
So okay.
And you said it happens every single time?
Yeah.
Okay.
It's probably trauma related.
Yeah, it sounds like you're disassociating.
That's my diagnosis.
Yeah, it could be.
You also have quite a bit of a high-pitched voice.
When the doctors say it's trauma-related, was there trauma?
Yeah, I lost my virginity in a bad way.
I'm not going to say why, but that's probably why I have that problem.
Yeah, I don't want you to have to get into it.
That sort of conversation can be really sensitive.
May I ask at what age, though?
I was 16.
Okay.
Was there anything like earlier on?
No.
No.
Any traumatic stuff like from?
No.
My family was great.
My mom was very protective over me.
So I didn't want to lose my virginity at all until I was married.
But when that happened to me when I was 16, I just kind of felt like I should take my own sexuality.
And I think that's one of the reasons why I do OnlyFans.
There was this old show I used to listen to as a radio show called Loveline with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.
And one of their hypotheses was people who have experienced, this applied to both men and women, but more so to women.
People who have experienced sexual trauma, especially in a young age, tend to have certain, well, almost always have negative ramifications as they're older.
But one of the manifestations of early trauma is high-pitched voice.
So women with really high-pitched voices, there's high likelihood of...
That's really interesting.
My dad, he's straight, but he has such a high-pitched voice.
Like, he honestly sounds like a woman.
Like, on the phone, they always think that he's a girl.
All right, maybe it could be genetic then.
So if you're in a fight with your boyfriend and he just like rubs you there, does that end the fight because you just pass out?
You're just like, you're just out like a light.
And then like that just, is that just the end of the fight altogether?
It's like, I just don't want to fight about this anymore.
You know what I mean?
So he does the whole Trump thing and grabs her by the, you know, and then are you just out like a light?
Is it, you know, within seconds?
Are you just just done?
Well, I've never experienced that before, but it would work.
I would shut up.
So what I'm gathering here is that your boyfriend, for all future possible fights that you may get into, has a fail-safe mechanism to end every single fight.
Yeah, I mean, even if that wasn't, like, if I was just a normal girl and that didn't happen to me, I feel like most girls would shut up if they're having an argument and then their man has sex with them.
So, yeah, it would work.
Well, I mean, no, there's no guarantee that they would shut up, right?
There's only a guarantee, though, that you would shut up, right?
That would be the guarantee.
Yeah.
yeah okay um i think it's like a built-in it's like a built-in off switch Go ahead.
I think the important question is, like, doing OnlyFans, are you, like, happy with it given the SA background?
I didn't ever think I was going to do OnlyFans.
And like I said, my first manager, he really, like, pushed me to do OnlyFans.
But now that I'm making so much money, it's just like I can't really stop doing it.
I like doing it because I can like do cosplay and stuff.
And like, I like taking videos of myself.
But it's really just, I make so much money now.
We're going to move it on, but you said another crazy story.
You've been around one of the richest men in the world and you had a weird slash demonic experience that you can talk about.
Who?
Who?
Yeah.
Jeff Bezos.
Shut up.
Come on.
Well, actually, his son.
Does who's Jeff Bezos has a son?
I don't know.
Yeah, he does have a son.
So was it Jeff Bezos or was it his son?
It was his son, but he invited me to Jeff Bezos' estate in Los Angeles.
And it's like their main house.
It's one of the most like expensive houses in America.
And this is like this October and it was like the best night of my life.
This was Preston.
This is Preston Bezos?
Yeah.
Okay.
It was October, you said?
Okay.
Yeah, during Halloween.
I was like, I met him through one of my actor friends and we went to a party together, a Chrome Hearts party, and then he invited me to go to his house after.
And it was really, really cool.
And like the gates open and like a Rolls-Royce was just like waiting with a chauffeur.
And I got in and it was like this huge estate.
It literally took like 15 minutes to just like get to the house from like the front gate.
Okay.
So what happened?
Because you said it was a weird demonic experience.
Well, I'm not very religious, but I just had this like really eerie feeling in my heart the whole time.
And they had like really strange statues everywhere.
Like there was this really big red statue in the middle of a fountain and it looked like a demon and it was like eight feet tall.
And like the whole time I was there, I just felt like very, very nervous and like overwhelmed with like bad energy.
But it was very cool experience, but it was weird.
Wait, was this Bohemian Grove?
I don't know what that is.
Maybe I'm just okay.
Now this, where did you say this happened?
Los Angeles at their main house.
Because Preston Bezos lives in New York, not in New York.
Well, yeah.
Also, his stepson lives in New York, but they obviously come to the main house.
Okay, so they were, when was this?
October.
You said in LA?
During Halloween.
I thought, well, I mean, they probably have no shortage of money to spend on houses, but I thought their main house was in like Seattle.
No, their biggest and most expensive house is here.
Okay, well, I'll know the details.
So there was creepy statues.
Was that it?
It was just the feeling of like, I mean, a lot of people say that rich and famous people maybe have like a deal with the devil, and I never really believed that until that night.
Okay.
I'm serious, I'm being honest.
But was there anything else weird?
You said there was the statues and then there was a fountain or something?
I mean, the whole house was weird.
It had dinosaurs, like huge T-Rex.
Like when you walked out.
That sounds dope.
That sounds cool.
It was cool.
It really was cool.
But a lot of.
You don't fuck with dinosaurs.
I love dinosaurs.
Jurassic Park.
No.
It was cool, yeah.
Okay.
And this is saying that.
I just cursed, you know, just did a cursory exam.
This was last year, this last October.
Yeah, last October.
Okay, because this is saying that he was at Princeton at the time in October.
I definitely was with him.
I don't know where you're getting that information.
I'm just, I'm, look, I believe you, right?
I'm just looking at the cursory information, right?
What did you guys do while you were there?
So we were partying together the whole time for like Halloween for like a week.
I went to like all of the parties with him and some of his other friends.
And when we went to the house, like we were just drinking and just hanging out.
And he like gave like a small tour of the house.
And yeah, that's basically it.
Did you try to baby trap him?
Um, no, but um, no.
Okay.
Oh, it sounds like you're gonna give us a he made you pass out story.
I mean, I think he's really cute, but I have like a boyfriend, so I was trying to be like respectful.
Okay.
Um, have you been around any other like any Saudi people or Saudi, yeah, like Dubai or anything like that?
Um, one time, um, like six months ago in Charlotte, um, I met this guy.
He was from Dubai and his family was very rich, owned like a big liquor company.
And he texted me on Instagram and he offered me like seven grand to go out with him to one of the clubs in Charlotte.
And I went there with one of my best friends and literally we didn't do anything but have like a normal night.
And I literally talked to my best friend the whole time and he gave actually each of us $7,000 in cash.
But that's my only exchange with a Dubai guy.
$7,000?
Yeah, nothing.
Yeah.
No.
Literally, just to make an appearance.
Life on easy mode.
Cool.
All right.
Congrats on the thousand.
Okay.
I got to do a quick read here.
Also, I want to do Ivermectin.
This Indian tech support, how may I help you?
Yo, my girlfriend is super effing, annoying, and won't stop nagging.
Have you tried turning her on off again?
How do I do that?
Literally.
Okay, thank you.
Ivermectin cures cancer.
Appreciate that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I think he's talking about you.
Andrew did make a good point about that'd be a good way to just end an argument: just have your girlfriend pass that.
That's just a built-in factory reset, right?
Just like, yep.
It's just a built-in, yeah, built-in factory.
Oh, kind of.
I guess there's a big benefit too, right?
It's like, how could a guy ever be bad at sex, right?
Like, you can't remember it, right?
Like, how could a guy ever even be bad at it?
Yeah.
All right.
We have, let's see here.
Another one.
Ivermectin cures cancer.
Chair two.
Hey, doc, I pass out every time I have carnal relations.
It's celiac disease.
Yeah.
Doctor, Gnosis.
That shiz is a medical term we call Rufiac disease.
Okay.
Chair two, but I'm on OF, Doctor.
Ah, that too.
What the fuck?
Okay.
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So was there like weird, like anything else weird at that party with Bezos?
It wasn't a party.
It was literally like only four of us there.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, it was very like intimate.
It was.
So Bezos was there, Jeff Bezos.
He wasn't there, but it was his house.
Have you met him?
No, I never met him, but only both of his sons.
I see.
Okay.
So they're just weird statues.
But they were fine.
The sons were cool, right?
Yeah, really cool.
Like, they didn't start doing some like child sacrifice ritual, like some fucking Mayan shit, you know?
No, it was just a feeling of like demonic energy.
You felt it.
I do.
I did.
Do you feel demonic energy right now?
No.
Like in here?
No.
What kind of energy is it like?
How do you feel a demonic energy there, but not doing OF?
Like, what?
Um, I think OF can be positive and fun.
You think Satan wants you to do OF?
You think demons or people are like, you should really stop doing that?
Like, honestly?
I mean, I think God loves everyone.
That really doesn't answer my question, sure.
God loves Adolph Hitler.
I get it.
But the question is: is like, you're worried about demonic.
How do you feel demonic energy around a bunch of statues at some rich guy's house?
You don't feel any demonic energy doing OF.
That's bizarre to me.
I mean, I guess sometimes it can feel bad, like, I wouldn't say demonic, though.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
And then I think final thing for your notes here.
Do you have any plastic surgery?
Oh, no.
You're a fucking liar!
Fuck you liar!
Okay, what do you, come on, what do you have?
Um, okay, if mine is just my boobs, but I don't like saying that they're fake because I love them and they're real to me.
I mean, they're on my body, but it's just my boobs.
Okay, and like BBL or like any sort of Jenner Kardashian hip thing or what do they do?
What is that thing?
BBL, yeah.
But like is BBL the same as like when they put stuff, like it's not the back of the butt, it's like the side of the I mean usually it's a BBL or you could get implants maybe you have that?
No, but I kind of want to get like a skinny BBL.
Okay.
Yeah.
But no, not right now.
All right.
Cool.
All right.
Let's see here.
We're going to get into, you know, we have a couple of reacts I want to do while we do.
Hmm.
Let me think here.
Actually, you know what?
Do one more note.
Before we get into the reacts, yeah, I'll do some more of the show notes.
So I want to go to Lauren.
Lauren, you said you were dating yourself.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what I tell guys when I don't want to talk to them, to be honest.
They're like, hey, you have a boyfriend?
I'm like, I'm dating myself.
Cool.
In your notes to us, you described yourself as corporate.
Oh, yeah.
What does that mean?
I work in healthcare technology.
Okay.
Like pubicle.
Like, I can type really fast.
Got it.
You said you're a Latina and German.
Yeah.
Okay.
But all-American.
All right.
You're bilingual in what languages?
Spanish in English.
Spanish.
Okay.
You describe yourself as conservative.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Do you, I'm trying to remember.
You said you're a published chemist and author.
Mm-hmm.
When you said, you said you wrote the book, right?
Yeah.
But you're self-published, right?
Yeah, it's like the direct publishing, whatever.
Oh, okay.
So I did it through an editor.
Yeah.
But like when I think of published author.
Like I could go publish a book.
Yeah, everyone could.
Absolutely.
It was like, hey, I should write it.
Like if people claim they're a model.
It's like, someone took an iPhone photo of you.
No, but I mean, I did get the chemistry one published.
Yeah, no.
Yeah, yeah, you see.
That was actually cooler, in my opinion.
Sure.
You said that you describe yourself as bipolar.
Yes.
So I am bipolar.
My company is Crazy Good.
My book is called Crazy Good.
It's available on Amazon.
It's not that great, probably, because it's just self-published, you know?
I'm just kidding.
Are you, there's different, there's bipolar one, bipolar two?
Yes, I am bipolar one.
So explain that.
What is so for those of you that don't know, bipolar disorder is a mood disorder where you can fluctuate from very lows into very highs.
And depending if you have bipolar one or bipolar two, the difference is that bipolar one, you go to full mania, which can be very destructive.
And then bipolar two, you do like more like hypomania.
So women normally have more depressive episodes when they have bipolar disorder, but I am blessed to have, not really blessed, but I have more manic episodes.
And so my book is really more like a little memoir that kind of compiles some of those really insane moments of my life and kind of a little perspective on it.
Do you take medication?
Every day.
Multiple medications?
Yes.
Okay.
And how, actually, really quick for the whole panel, does anybody else here have bipolar BPD, APD, ASPD?
Anybody here take any other medication for what would be because of this?
I think it's mental illness.
Hide it.
It's anybody?
Depression.
None of that.
Okay.
All right.
And let's see.
Do you go to therapy for it or anything?
Not therapy too much.
I used to, but they're kind of annoying sometimes.
I think that a lot of therapists are just breeding narcissists.
Sure.
You said a question for you on this, and maybe the rest of the panel can weigh in.
Do you think, or actually, before I do that, in a relationship, how does your bipolar manifest itself, if it does?
So I'm very loyal.
I've never cheated on anyone, never done any of that.
But my first, my five-year relationship ended when I was diagnosed.
So it was very, very terrible because I didn't know what bipolar disorder was.
And I literally lost my mind doing research in a laboratory.
And then it was really intense.
You can read about it in my book.
Anyways, so he broke up with me then.
And I think I also told you a little bit on my little notes that at one point I gave an ex $90,000.
So, you know, some of the symptoms, you know, people will have like a cancer and it'll be like, oh, you have a tumor.
My symptom is I just spend all my money.
That's really fun.
Question for you, and I guess the rest of the panel.
Do you think it's wrong for a man to not want to date you or another woman because she is bipolar or suffers from, well, let's just keep it the bipolar, I guess.
I, you know, I could, if it's unmanaged, like, yeah, don't date someone that's unmanaged.
Yeah, but let's just say like just a blanket don't want to date somebody who's bipolar.
There's people, I've had this argument with a geneticist where he was actually saying that you needed to, you know, like eugenics get rid of people with mental disorders.
Okay.
I'm not really talking about that, but.
Well, no, because if you don't want to be with them, you don't want to reproduce with them.
And so you don't continue the bloodline of.
So you think it's eugenics for a guy to not want to date somebody who has a bipolar disorder?
No, no, there's people that believe that.
I'm just saying, like, if that's how you feel, like, that's, you can do that.
Like.
Okay.
Yeah.
But I do think, like.
Yeah, you think it's wrong, though?
Like, do you think it's unfair or I don't know?
No, not really.
I mean, everyone decides what they want to do.
And I do believe that unmanaged and people that are not accountable for their mental illness, they are a menace to society most of the time.
Sure.
So.
You described yourself as opinionated on what?
Most things.
Most things, everything.
Okay, we'll get into it tonight then.
So going to the story, you said you gave $90,000 to a boyfriend.
Was that the five-year?
No, no, no.
How long were you guys dating?
We were living together.
We were together.
I think a total of nine months.
But yeah, so that was interesting.
It was an accident, kind of.
But he had a company and he was a CEO.
So he was like, if you give me your money, then I'll put it into my business and I'll make more money and it'll be fun.
And I said, okay.
So then I just wired him 90K.
So he like scammed you?
Well, we actually had a promissory note, so then I got to sue him.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So, wait.
But was it an investment in the company?
No, he actually didn't put it in the company.
I think what he did, and I can't prove this, but we went on like very extravagant trips.
I think he was actually paying for stuff to love bomb me with my money.
I'm pretty sure that's what happened.
But we had some awesome trips, man.
Like Mexico City, Sedona, Atlantic City, DC, you know, it was fun.
So, but I mean, I get that he didn't use it for the business, but the nature of the arrangement between the two of you was you were essentially investing in his business.
Is that that was, but he didn't put it in his business, but that was the idea was essentially.
Was there a written agreement?
It was just a promissory note that I was letting him borrow 90K.
What did the note say?
It said that he could, that I was giving him 90K and that I would, once I moved out, if I moved out, he had to give it to me 30 days after I moved out.
And he ended up, over a course of maybe six or seven months, ended up giving me like 85% of it back.
Before, before or after the lawsuit?
That was during the lawsuit because he wasn't going to give it back to me unless I got him with the lawyer.
So, did you get all of it back?
Almost 85% about it.
Oh, okay.
So, you did get a judgment against him?
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I had a promissory note, so it was just right, but okay.
So, you had the promissory note, but he wasn't paying it.
So, then you had to go to court to file a lawsuit.
No, no, he started paying it, but he just started paying it in really small chunks.
And so, then the lawyer was saying that because he was still making the attempt to pay it, like he couldn't really go further with it.
So, I don't know.
I paid a bunch of lawyer for you.
So, did you file a lawsuit?
I got the lawyer to serve him.
Is that the word?
I don't know.
So, a lawsuit was filed?
Yeah.
Okay.
Was it so?
You dismissed it then?
What do you mean by dismissed?
Well, you filed the lawsuit because he wasn't paying you.
Then he started paying you.
Yeah.
So did you dismiss a case?
Yeah.
We didn't go to court.
Like, we were talking.
He was talking to my lawyer through it and paying me very much.
So he paid most of it back.
Okay.
Yeah.
It wasn't just a gift.
You didn't gift him $90,000.
Yeah, but he definitely lied about a lot of things.
And then unfortunately, since I got really sick during that time as well, which is the reason that he got the money.
And so then even when he gave it back to me, I did some really careless things.
And I gave $30,000 to an orphanage in Nigeria.
So that was $30,000?
Nigeria?
Yeah, I don't know, man.
Was it an actual orphanage in Nigeria?
I actually don't know the answer.
Was it one of those kings?
Yeah, it was kind of wild.
So, yeah.
Come to me.
Okay.
And trying to think here.
Was it a Nigerian prince or something?
Probably.
I don't even really remember.
Because when you go so into mania, you actually forget stuff.
Like, you kind of black out because of the trauma.
Like, your brain's like, ah, can't handle this.
And so it's kind of crazy.
You also wrote in your notes here you wanted to speak about cultural differences in relationships.
Yes.
Yeah.
So were you dating a Nigerian?
No, I was dating a Mongolian.
Yeah.
Just is that the only one that pertained to cultural differences?
No, actually, it's more so for me because I'm bicultural.
So I was actually raised Mexican.
I lived in Mexico for a little bit.
I do speak Spanish.
I feel weird just speaking Spanish, but I know you speak Spanish.
And so I think it's interesting because in cultural, like culturally, there's differences in what the gender roles are supposed to be like.
And I came from a very like traditional Mexican, the wife is at home and the dad is the breadwinner.
And so I just think that also kind of played out in some of my relationships when like they expected something specific out of a relationship just because of their culture.
So did like the Mongolian people.
Like the Mongolian Catholic patriarchy from the Mexican perspective, right?
So they have a strong patriarchal society because it's informed deeply by Catholicism.
Yep.
So it's very patriarchal.
I get that, but Mongolians are really patriarchal too.
So what's the thing you're pointing to here?
Well, I'm just saying I think that's interesting.
I wanted to talk about it.
Like what is everyone's experiences with different cultures and how do they clash?
Because that was just kind of what I wanted to talk about in a sense.
I don't know.
Yeah, what were yours?
What were my what?
My cultural differences?
Yeah.
Yeah, these experiences that you're talking about that you want to talk about, yeah.
Well, I mean, just in terms of like the culture, like it just kind of the basis of culture determines, you know, how you perceive the world and how like your mate and everything like that.
So for me, I've seen like, and I don't have like a specific thing on it.
I just, you know, I don't know.
I don't have like some juicy.
Sorry.
Okay.
Then I'll move it on.
Yeah.
You said dating is difficult because women entered the workforce.
What do you mean?
I think that men enjoy providing because it's kind of like a masculine thing that happens to men.
I think they like providing.
I think that when the women join the workforce, there is now like a competition with men.
And I think that that demasculinizes men.
And I also think that it makes the dating pool of high-value men to be smaller because they're getting like pushed out by like high-achieving women.
And then also you get women, which sometimes I do this because I do, like, I have a career and all that stuff where you kind of just, you're like, oh, I'm the boss.
But I don't want to be the boss.
And I think that's maybe the cultural problem with me is that I want to be like traditional Mexican, but then like, like, but how I live my life is like, I run shit, you know?
And so maybe that's what I was trying to get at.
Okay.
Anybody else want to weigh in on that?
Yeah, I somewhat agree to that in many circumstances in terms of like you're independent more.
And it's not like you want to be because you're forced into it, probably.
But it's funny because like, you know, like your culture, like you said, Mexican culture, it's like men provide and women.
But is that like your upbringing wise?
Did you not have like a father figure there?
No, no, my parents have been married 40 years.
So you being overachieving, is that just a you thing?
Yeah, yeah.
And I mean, my sister and my mom are both homemakers.
And I would love to do that, but I just, I got forced into working.
The other thing that happened when women entered the workforce is that wages didn't go up because there was a larger supply of workers.
So yeah, we should just go back to cooking.
But the thing is, because I am a Mexican woman in my core, like I do love cooking.
And like if someone comes over, I host and I would love to just make sandwiches every day and tend to some plants.
No, I kind of agree with that.
Why don't you move to Mexico?
I mean, it's nice, you know.
I love Mexico.
I have dual citizenship.
Like, I love Mexico.
I mean, it seems like that would solve your issue, right?
I don't think I have that big of an issue.
Oh.
I mean, it sounded like you were saying that there's an issue where you feel like the men who are around you are demasculin, or they're not, they don't have feelings of masculinity because you're like an overachieving, you know, working girl or something.
No, not me specifically.
I think just as a high-level concept.
Like, what do y'all think?
I think, um, are you in California?
Did you say?
Um, I live in Texas right now.
Well, Texas, you're gonna find some manly men, you know, traditional guys.
You know, like, get with the Patriots, those dudes have balls, all right?
The guys that skip around here in California, it's grim.
Seriously, it's none of this, especially right now.
It's not uh it's not, I got the same problem because I have my own business, you know, have my whole life.
But the thing is, there are manly men out there that appreciate it and they want to be a man.
And you feel sexier with men that pay things, that do things, that take the man role.
And you just calm yourself down a little bit, let them talk, let them shine, be their cheerleader, and screw your career.
Don't even talk about it, don't say how much money you have in the bank.
It's they don't need to know.
That's top secret.
Yeah, I don't think men care how successful we are.
Like, I think women have adopted like when we go into dating, where like we're trying to be like, oh, I've accomplished this and I've done this and I've done that.
They don't care.
Exactly.
They don't care.
They want to be the winner.
They want to know that they're safe with you emotionally.
And I feel like if we show that, like, oh, we're like so bad and we do all these things and we're so independent and that it's so aggressive and it's so masculine.
And it's like we can be that in our business, but like they want to feel safe that we're not going to like do that to them like on a daily basis.
What's feminine?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you can have all those things.
Exactly.
I dated this guy and we broke up and at the end he was like, okay, go, Miss Independent Woman.
Like that was like his biggest insult to me.
And he was masculine too, but that was like a big push.
The secure guys don't care.
They're going to be buddy people.
I want, I would love to like just tend to my animals and you know, feed people and make everything pretty, but then you just do that.
No, well, each money.
Well, you know, tell people what to do.
You play the mystery with the man.
You don't let him know.
You don't need to pump your own ego around him.
You don't.
Yeah, I agree.
You just, yeah.
You go, sweetheart, how can I rock your world?
That's all they want to know.
Do you feel like you've been the provider in majority of your relationships in the past?
Oh, no.
Yeah, my last relationship, he was 10 years younger than me, and I was his sugar mama 100%.
That's also the problem.
Like, if you're dating younger men, I know that's the only younger men I've ever been with.
And I went from like CEO, he took me out of the job force.
I was like doing that.
And then all of a sudden, I went to 10 years younger.
So did your 10 or the younger boyfriend you had, did he feel emasculated?
The fact that you were the breadwinner?
Did he feel that?
I think he liked it.
What a pussy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
I think, well, it was like, I actually really like taking care of people too.
Like, I give people gifts.
I give everyone a little present.
But when do you get to be taken care of?
I know.
I mean, I take care of myself too, which is.
No, I mean, what are you guys doing to deserve to get taken care of?
That's the question.
Well, if you be a good girlfriend, I feel like it's like a mutual give and take.
What does that mean, though?
A good girlfriend is like being able to, like, I wake up every morning, not like, not like thinking this first thing, but when you wake up, you generally want to do the best for your partner and you think about ways to make them happy and ways that you can just take care of them.
And I feel like a lot of men these days, they don't really think that, perhaps, you know, not like actively at least.
Like if you do ask a guy, like, what do you like about me?
Are they going to say the things you do for them or who you are as like a person?
But in terms of the masculinity thing, it does build when you are the one doing everything and you want someone to take care of you and stuff, which is very valid.
But at the same time, you want to give them the opportunity to.
I feel like too a lot of times, like we take care of things to the point where, like we don't give them the opportunity sometimes.
Well I, I take care of people too much and that's when I forget about you.
Take care of, like what do you take care of that they're not getting the opportunity to take care of?
Are you fixing the apartment?
Like what do you?
What do you do?
What men do that like nowadays, like how much men can ask?
They don't do that.
Women don't do shit when it comes to building.
They don't do anything, but they do talk about it.
That's because men and women have like different kind of roles.
They do we're equal in many senses, but we're just like we're feminine masculinity.
There's just two different like sectors.
To that I feel like like um.
I think yeah, men should be manly, men and women should be feminine, and I think that's how like a good relationship is.
There's just a balance of two.
You know, there's just different roles.
I feel like like um, why do most men want a woman like as like as a wife, like genuinely want a woman?
They want someone who can make them feel safe, like you said, take care of them and also um, I don't just do the things that they can't really do for themselves.
Like a lot of times in cultural differences, especially like for masculinity, like macho what's it called?
Like when the Mexican macho machismos like they, they are like heavily in that mindset and sometimes they need like a feminine energy in it.
It's just there's different roles and I I agree with you that what do women do to deserve a masculine man?
And that's like why relationships work when there's just two, when there's two people working.
The way I like give myself to a partner is by knowing their preferences, like I like to know, like how they like their eggs made like I and I love to cook.
I love to cook and so that's actually like how one of my love languages is is to like understand, like everything you hate and everything you like, and they just cater to you and at all moments, consideration is the purest form of love.
Yeah, it's just the little things that you take note of that make them feel like they're being taken care of.
But everyone, despite gender, have different preferences because of the way they're raised and like different things they go through in life makes them need different things.
Like for us, since we have to grow out like taking care of things, we do want someone who can take care of us, you know, and it's not like I have to always ask you for things, but it's just like a good person observes you.
When they love you, they observe you, they know you enough to be like, oh, I don't have to like ask her, do you want me to clean the house?
Like, if it's dirty, you should probably like do it too.
Or honey, can I get some money so I can hire somebody to clean the house?
Oh yeah like, I just like just certain things, I feel, and like there's rich people who like hire people to do it if they have a big house valid, but if you have a small house and it's just, it's not necessary, just different things.
Like that I feel like it's I get cleaning ladies because they become my friends.
All right, if you're supporting.
They're my friends.
When I moved from California, my cleaning lady and I cried together.
You build relationships, man.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, that's what I think about like male and females and things that don't work out typically.
Like, I grew up and I don't think I've ever gotten men, guys my age, like, ask me out.
And it's because, like, I grew up and I had to like work.
I worked, started working around 15 and I had that grind.
And I started, I stopped socializing with people a lot because I focused on work and I didn't really have friends.
I never really partied or anything.
And people see that, like, you have that energy and they don't really go to you because they're not ready for like a mitre, of course.
And then, or whatever you're on, they want to go do other things when they're young.
You know what I mean?
I feel like I got tricked by modern feminism and they were like, you should work really hard and just do your career.
And I did it and I did it.
And I'm here.
And I'm like, wait.
I agree.
And like, if you want a man who's like stable and has money, you're probably like a gold digger.
Like when I was young, I was like, okay, it's like shallow to think these things.
But now like after my first relationship, I'm like, it's honestly important for a man to have drive.
Because if I have drive and then they don't, it's like, I can't be a babysitter and take care of like myself and like you.
So I'm not going to wear the pants.
I'd rather be alone.
Yeah.
Truly.
And they don't even need to.
They just need to be like achieving.
Do you make sense?
I was a hustler from the beginning.
And guys had nothing to offer, nor did they want to.
Did they want to work?
They didn't want to do anything.
And I'm thinking, how am I going to own a home by myself if I don't have a partner?
And my sisters that were married just said, keep working, keep doing it.
And then I'd meet guys that would go, I got to take you down a peg or two.
And then you don't actually like them like them or what?
No, I liked him.
And I told my sister, he just said he's going to take me down a peg or two.
She goes, that's not good.
And I'm going, this dude kept circling my life to see how much better off I was.
He'd come over to check out to see what I'd done to my place.
And I'm thinking, dude, I could buy or sell you, loser.
And look what you've done.
Yeah, I wouldn't.
Why didn't you like associate with those people?
Hello.
Hello.
I'm good.
Why he kept circling around and I'd say, over.
Next.
Over.
Yeah.
Try not to bang on the table, please.
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These girls are so delusional.
Oh, they're delusional.
Ladies these days expect to be treated like a queen, but have taken more loads than a washing machine.
Like, that's wild to say.
Some Shakespeare.
Shakespeare.
You know, like, when I, before I came on this podcast, people were like, oh my God, they do shit coming.
Oh, we don't shit on women.
But it's wild to comment.
Yeah, it's like wild to say this.
I feel like men who say this never had a good woman because they're not good men.
I want to see a profile picture.
You will attract good women.
Or like you would have the standard to have good women.
But if you're like a man who just takes what they get, that's just what you're going to get.
That's really bizarre and self-contradictory.
So it seems to me like men who say, well, I have standards and I'm able to spot when that's good.
Then like, why would they hang on?
Hang on, hang on.
Let me finish.
I didn't interrupt your prattle at all.
Oh, so when I think of a guy can make a determination very quickly based on what women are saying, what their value is, that that's the ultimate sign of security.
I don't know, like your statement here is self-contradictory.
They've just never had a good woman.
It's like, no, I think probably they have had good women.
And that is where they are making the judgment and standard for women who are not good, right?
That makes way more sense to me.
No, that's valid, of course.
That's valid, of course.
But what they're saying straight up is assuming who we are.
I was going to say, because they said, like, they've been ran through more than a washing machine.
Like I coined a washing machine or threw a yellow light.
So that is just an assumption.
Like, how do you know that?
Can you see their profile picture?
Well, okay, hang on, hang on.
I think that that's fair.
I think that it's fair for you to say, like, how would you ever be able to ascertain this, right?
Right.
However, I think you would have to agree with me that people, the reason stereotypes exist is because a lot of times they're true.
So let's take, for instance, chair two.
Do you think people might have a preconceived notion that perhaps chair two might be, oh, I don't know, something akin to perhaps a sex worker or something like that just by looking at her?
I think the odds are pretty high that they would.
Do you think that they would be being unreasonable or insane or in some way unjust for making that determination?
I don't think so.
I think it's still unjust.
Based on how women carry themselves, just like with men, you can tell a lot about the confidence of a man by how he carries himself.
And you can tell a lot about how a woman is by the way she dresses and by the way she presents herself, right?
Agreed.
And a lot of times, oh, for example, that man, he's like assuming all women just because of like one particular subgroup of women is like kind of in a sense being stereotypical and like not racist, but it's just like you're assuming a whole thing.
I feel like to be just a decent person wouldn't assume a whole subgroup based on just OnlyFans or like corn people.
You know, there's just so much variety.
What are you talking about?
Like, why?
Listen, why would you like it?
The reason that we make these kind of presuppositions when we're meeting people, it's the defense mechanism that's built into us for survival.
But why are you defending like a budget?
The reason that we have to make and ascertain judgments about people within seconds is what keeps you alive.
For instance, if I'm walking down the street and a guy has a crowbar in his hand, a black ski mask on, I'm probably going to avoid him, right?
Am I judging the entire group of people with crowbars and black ski masks when I do that?
I don't know, probably, but you know what?
I probably should.
I probably should.
It's probably smart to do.
So it's like, no, I think it's fine to kind of make some presuppositions about people as far as a survival mechanism because that's how we live.
That's how we operate.
We have to operate that way.
Yeah, I guess it's just different between men and women because for me, I never assume what people do.
Obviously, you can make assumptions, but to directly correlate, that's just, I don't think.
I mean, if it's a crowbar, then yeah.
But if we're just a woman dressed like normal, then you're just assuming things that's like, that's inappropriate as well, I feel like.
But one thing that's kind of interesting is if someone says something and it's not true, then you don't get offended by it.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not offended, but it's just like, you know, you know, like if someone's like, hey, you're a washer machine.
Yeah, like all of us.
Like, okay.
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What's wrong with Woodmen's Curtis?
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What's wrong with Woodmen's Curtis?
What's wrong with Haltimes?
I mean, well, see, this is a European design thing.
And the righteous people, you go to Saudi Arabia, tell a woman to put on men's skirts.
Go to Zaire, Africa, have the women put on short dresses.
They'd be fine.
They're locked up.
Go to Pakistan or go to all three black Islamic Muslim countries.
Number one, I have a wife and she's walking around with a skirt up to here.
And then what's happening?
Well, why do I want everybody to see her?
What's the man?
I mean, people looking, they're weakening, they're lusting for all kinds of freaks and no good people on the streets.
Why do I want my wife?
She came then over because her panties show off, the wind blow.
It showed the behind cows and animals and mules.
Human beings don't walk and out.
Saddest walking around with the behinds out.
And my wife's behind ain't for every man to look at.
You understand?
So it makes a lot of sense.
So how can I protect my woman if I'm walking?
She's half naked.
Some saddest run up and grab a hell.
I shouldn't have put out there.
If I got merchandise I'm going to sell, I put them put in the window for you to see.
So if I want my wife, why don't everybody see my wife?
What's private?
What's mine?
Everybody looking at her.
It was me.
What's wrong with it?
How can you have a wife of somebody you love?
Anything God made precious, nature hides it.
You cannot find diamonds easy.
You have to dig and dig and dig.
Me got to work to clean them.
You cannot.
You cannot find.
Listen.
You cannot find gold.
Everything God made valuable, he made it hard to get.
Pearls, rubies.
Ain't my oil?
You have to dig, and half time you don't strike.
Everything God created that was valuable, he made it hard to get to.
Ain't my woman more important than some diamonds or some oil and some gold?
Fuck basically sons and daughters.
Why should she walk around all nude in all of these design clothes?
Her breasts out.
She's on the beach wearing clothes that show more than her panties when she goes to bed.
That's right.
People just might as well come out with a Bazaar on and her panties.
She'd be more covered up than she do in the European style with just something covering up her nipple and just a little old G string over and she's walking out on the beach naked.
These are savages.
I'm gonna have my daughter, my wife, and my woman walking around for her man.
Ooh, look how I do.
Boy, if I could get to her.
And I want that far.
She's mine.
What do you mean?
What's wrong with walking around here?
Okay, you had a really strong reaction to that.
Oh, it's triggering.
You did that.
It's fucking triggering.
What's your reaction there?
He just looks like an insecure little bitch that can't handle a baddie.
Wait, hold on.
You know who that is, though, right?
Muhammad Ali.
Now I do apparently.
World championship boxer.
He's a little bitch.
I don't give a fuck who he is.
He's awesome.
So, but why?
Why does that, I guess, upset you?
Well, it's like if you're with a beautiful woman, other people look, who gives a fuck?
Yeah, my girl's hot.
Hype her up.
Gas her up.
Yeah, but wait, wait, Okay.
Who here agrees with her?
Oh, no, I said I agree a little bit with the video.
You agree with him?
What about you?
I don't agree with him, but I had a question.
Like, you agree with what he's saying?
To an extent, right?
I agree that, like, if a woman's beautiful, people are going to look at her if she's modest or not, like, in general.
So if you're beautiful, like, why do you have to overly show it?
And I personally like to feel like protected by my man.
And so I wouldn't dress scandalously with a man personally.
But I feel like you're dressed like a little scandalous.
I mean, obviously, I'm very scandalous too, but like you have really short shorts on and your boobs are out.
So he was also talking about marriage and like being in a committed relationship.
And I think that that's like a huge difference.
I agree with that.
She's in a relationship with herself after all.
So you can wear what you want.
I mean, if I like to dress sexy, it makes me happy.
I don't do it to get attention.
I do it because it makes me feel good about myself.
And I feel like my partner should be celebrating me if I'm happy, whatever makes me happy.
And if I like to dress like that, it is what it is.
Whatever makes you happy.
I think for men that shows up.
Hold on, can I have you scoot your microphone to the edge of the table?
Like kind of pull it.
Here, let's go around the table, get people's reactions.
I'm all for Muhammad Ali, what he said.
I don't want a Kanye West that parades his wife out naked in front.
It's like how humiliating for her as though she's just trash.
I love the protectiveness of a man that he loves.
He wants to cherish her.
I think it's great.
I love Mohammed.
Your reaction?
Yeah, I don't agree with him not wanting his person to wear a, not to not wear a bikini at the beach, like it's the beach, but I do understand why he wouldn't want his wife showing certain intimate parts of her body, like in public, because that's his wife, but that also comes with understanding your person before you get married.
What about you?
Yeah, I would say the same thing.
I think because he's talking about being in a committed relationship.
But if I, like, when you're single and doing whatever, I don't think that's that big of a deal.
But I think it is a red flag when someone's in a relationship and then their partner is dressed a certain way.
It kind of shows that there's like an opening in the relationship.
And maybe it's not as solid, in my opinion.
But I do think anyone should be able to wear whatever they want.
But in that case, it would kind of be like a red flag.
Okay.
Your thoughts?
I'm like 50-50 what he was saying because I think you we are independent.
I mean you as a woman or as a guy, you have your rights to dress up as you want.
And no one has the right to tell you how you should go out from your house.
Even if it's your boyfriend, your husband, your daughter, your son, doesn't matter.
So I think I understand his point of view.
And I do believe there are a lot of women outside thinking the way how he's thinking.
And he will find that girl.
I mean, he will find it because we are so different.
But I think at the same time, he has to respect if his or her partner doesn't want to dress up how he wanted to, it's fine.
I mean, we need to respect each other, I think.
It's all about that.
Kanye West.
Yeah, but I think in that case, she likes it.
She wanted to.
She's doing it.
So why?
I just like this question, although I don't know.
She doesn't like she wants to do it.
Yeah.
I don't know about that.
She did that many times.
Wait, so just question for you really quick, and then I know Andrew wants to weigh in, but you said that a boyfriend or husband should not be able to tell their girlfriend or wife how to dress.
Yeah.
Okay.
But so are you saying that it's pretty much there's no boundaries or there's no influence that someone can have in a relationship?
Like you'd be, you wouldn't, I mean, there's a different dynamic here when it comes to like more traditional relationships if there's a Submissive dynamic where can a woman dictate to a man what to do, but you think a man and his girlfriend or wife's about to go out wearing like lingerie and he's like, I don't want you to wear that.
That's crazy.
You don't think he can dictate that to her?
They can have the discussion, but he has no right to say what he wants, what she wants to wear.
Okay, but how about this?
So I guess he can't force her to do it, but he can also say, okay, well, this relationship's over.
They should have the same moral code.
Huh?
The same moral code.
Wait, so and also to you, like if your boyfriend was wearing like something totally inappropriate to go out to, say, like a dinner, like a family dinner, and he wanted to wear, I mean, it's kind of different between men and women just because of what we're allowed to, but it just wasn't, he wasn't dressed well enough.
He's not like his balls aren't hanging out or some shit, but I don't know, whatever.
He's wearing like shorts and a tank top.
You wouldn't say anything to your you're not wearing that to the dinner.
You wouldn't say anything.
I've been there.
I've been in that situation and I'd say I said everything, but at the end, it's up to him.
I cannot say anything.
I will go out with him anyways.
I cannot say, okay, we are broke, we break up right now, or you are not going with me.
I mean, so you're saying this was the extent of the conversation.
Hey, boyfriend, can you change into something else?
And he said no, and that was the end of the conversation.
We go out anyways.
But does the conversation end there, or are you like, you really can't wear that?
I will not keep pushing the other person to change or to wear whatever I want because I think everyone should decide what you want to wear and how people and how you want to be watching by the other people.
Like, no, I want to dress up like these and I want people to watch me with this.
So I think, yeah.
What if your boyfriend or husband wanted to wear a dress, a pink dress out with you somewhere?
Live your best life.
Have a fucking ball.
Okay, you know what?
Before I have Andrew Way in here, do you have any final, any other thoughts on this?
I think she does.
Okay.
I do.
Okay.
Careful.
First, I think it's good to mention that there's a big cultural difference in terms of clothing and style between America and like everywhere else in the world.
I think it's very valid.
But like, yeah, he has different traditions rooted in him though, of course.
Sure.
And it's also from that.
It's probably from the 70s or 80s.
Yeah, of course.
And then I think it's very valid for him to think that.
But of course, he's talking about what he likes.
And I think it's also valid as a mother, as like a wife, to not wear.
I mean, mini skirt is like, it's kind of not necessary in my opinion.
And I think it is important to discuss those things.
Like, I wouldn't go out.
I always ask my boyfriend for his opinion for what I wear.
It's because like I want to look good for him.
Of course, I want to look good in general for myself, but he is like my boyfriend, you know, and I do do it for him too.
But I think what he said is valid to many extents.
It's just, yeah, many extents.
I think it's the way you go about it too.
Because it's one thing to communicate, hey, like you wearing this makes me uncomfortable versus take that shit over and out.
Like, yeah, just have respect.
Like, if he doesn't want me to wear something because, like, this, and there's just occasions you wear certain things.
The beach in California, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then, like, if you're in the streets wearing a bikini, then it's like, uh, no.
Can I say something?
Because, um, literally, like, my whole Instagram is just me in a bikini.
So, I really like personally showing off my body because I'm very confident in myself.
And, like, I think that that's like what's most beautiful about myself.
And, like, how I express myself is with like costumes and very like provocative clothes.
And it just makes me feel really pretty.
And for some reason, this is probably like my own issue.
Anytime, like I'm very conservative and like completely covered up.
I literally feel so ugly, and I'm not sure why I'm like that, but I really do like feel so ugly.
Like if I'm not like showing up.
And then going back to you, you said, I think you said you think men are insecure.
Is that well to me?
It's like when you're being controlling, controlling.
Don't tell your girl what to wear.
You can voice your concern, how it makes you feel.
Like it makes me feel uncomfortable for you to wear that.
And she'll get to decide how she acts according to what his feelings.
So do you believe in like 50-50 relationships?
If it works for you, I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
If it works for you, it works.
Yeah, what about you?
I've been in different scenarios.
Like I've been the provider, but I've also been the girl that's been taken care of.
I've had, I've been on both ends of the spectrum.
Okay, but what about, I mean, do you, in terms of decision-making in a relationship, you want it to be 50-50?
Do you want a guy who's a leader?
What do you like?
What's the dynamic that you prefer?
I mean, I like when the man takes the lead, but I also like it when he gives me an opportunity to lead for certain situations.
It just depends.
I'm sorry, why'd you say when he gives me the lead, like the opportunities?
Like, he doesn't, he doesn't have both.
Well, like, sometimes like my boyfriend will be like, well, plan a date night.
And then he'll be like, you want me to plan it or do you want to take the reins on it?
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Oh, that's.
No, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
That's all I have to say.
Okay, I have a quick video on that.
Pull it up.
Then Andrew's chomping at the bits again.
Go ahead.
Play it.
Go ahead.
I got away with everything under the last boss, and it wasn't good for me at all.
So I want guidance.
That's good.
I want leadership.
But don't just like boss me around, you know?
Like, lead me.
Lead me when I'm in the mood to be led.
Yeah, so I mean.
I don't think it's mood.
It's more like circumstances.
But it's like you said you wanted a guy who's a leader, but how's a guy supposed to turn it on, turn it off?
Like, I mean, that's usually 100%.
You guys can't really pick and choose.
Like, you either want a leader or you can have a little soy boy who's looking to you.
What do you, oh, I don't know what I want to eat.
Whatever you want, babe.
Like, even like embers had, like, a counselor.
You know what I mean?
Embers?
What is it?
Like, emperors.
Like, just like, they just have like, you just talk about things.
That's what relationships are.
Like, and there's certain things that, again, different roles, different things.
Girls.
There's got to be give and take.
Yeah.
Does there?
Honestly, like, I'm can be so pushy and intense sometimes that when a guy's like, no, I'm like, someone did that.
Like, and I like that.
And that's weird, right?
Like, I love strong guys.
There's guys that just won't say anything.
And I'm like, if you agree with everything I say, I know you're full of shit.
Andrew, you wanted to weigh in on this?
Yeah.
So you said, this was chair three.
You'd said, you know, you just can't handle a bad bitch, right?
He can't handle a baddie, right?
Can't handle a baddie.
But it's really funny because he actually is answering to the criticisms which a lot of the table have offered this evening towards men.
And he's offering basically exactly what it is that you want.
It's not good enough.
So here's what he actually said there.
Women, I don't know why, but when men speak, especially on topics like this, women just tune them out and seem to hear what they want to hear.
But here's what he actually said.
What he actually said was, if you put all of that on display, if you're putting everything out on display for other people, right?
Then obviously you must want other people to see it.
He says things like gold, diamonds, things like this, are really super hard to find.
And so when a man finds something like that, he doesn't want to share it because it's his.
He doesn't want to share it with anybody.
He doesn't want other people to touch it.
He doesn't put it out on display.
He doesn't want it stolen from him.
He doesn't want it taken from him.
He doesn't want it looked at by other people.
He doesn't want it fondled.
He doesn't want it unmanhandled.
He doesn't want it messed with, right?
He wants it all to himself because it's his.
It's his diamond.
It's his gold.
It's that.
And he says, I fought tooth and nail to get it because those things, which are diamonds, are the hardest things in the whole world to find.
They're the hardest things in the world to get.
And it takes a lot of work to get one.
So when you get one, you don't want to share it with anybody.
Right?
And so his criticism is, why would you, if a man has you and values you that much, betray him by doing that to him?
That's his criticism.
Not a single one of you responded to the criticism because you didn't even fucking listen.
You didn't even fucking listen to him.
Well, first of all, diamond rings are like on people's hands all the time.
People share.
You're not even going to speak to the criticism.
Give me a break.
Oh, first of all.
The actual criticism.
Yeah.
And the actual criticism.
Go ahead.
Wait, repeat the criticism one more time so I can really dive into it.
No, just repeat it one more time.
No, go ahead and just repeat it instead of like always.
No, just go ahead and just say it one more time.
Like I think all of us digest.
Okay, go ahead.
Man finds most valuable thing on planet Earth, does not want to share it.
Does not want to share it because he's showing how much he values it by refusing to share it, right?
Thing that's valuable, though, says, I want to be shared.
That shows man, thing that's valuable doesn't value him.
Yeah.
Get it now?
Yeah.
It's simple enough.
Okay, if he values something, he'll want the best for whatever he values.
He would, this is a person, not an object that we're talking about, too.
So if the object is opinionated, I think someone who values them would also listen.
That's why it's two in a relationship.
I agree to what he said in terms of being promiscuous and stuff.
But again, it takes two.
And I think that both opinions matter.
If each other, respect, there's respect between each other.
There's going to be conversation.
If he's dating someone or being with somebody who won't listen to him.
It's a conversation.
I'm just like.
What conversation needs to be had when you say, you're the most valuable thing on earth to me.
So therefore I have to say.
You're most valuable thing on earth.
Okay.
So please don't betray that by putting yourself in the hands of other men.
But how is that putting in the hands of other men if you're just because what else are you displaying it for?
You guys always cope and say, oh, I just dress like a skank so that other women will think I'm pretty.
Stop lying.
It's bullshit.
It's bullshit lies.
Every man knows it's bullshit and lies.
You put yourselves on display because you want the adoration of men.
We want that.
That's why you do it.
Yes, it is.
Yes, it is.
Why do you always think it's about men that we want to give it to you?
Because here's the thing.
I believe 100%, and you can dispute this.
I want to sound good.
I believe 100% if all men died tomorrow, there wasn't a single man left.
There was a man-wiped out virus, right?
We're all gone.
I'm thinking if you would dress like that.
I wouldn't.
Who the hell would you be dressing like that?
Do you know about women gyms?
Yeah, I love clothes.
I think the one thing about being a woman that is really cool that I like learned to love is dressing up.
It is really, really fun.
And if you guys all died, I would still dress up even better.
Matter of fact, I might go out naked if it's all just women.
You know what I mean?
It's just like, we like to dress up.
No.
In the morning.
So please.
In the morning when you got up to go to the store, you wouldn't spend three hours in front of the mirror.
You'd put on a bunch of stuff.
Yeah, because I have a schedule and a tight schedule.
If I had all the time in the world to play dress up, I would.
It's such cope.
It's such cope when women claim.
Like she says, Chair 2 says, I dress in bikinis all day in my Instagram, but that's because it's the only way I feel good about me.
And that's it.
Think that that's for other women, right?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's like for myself, though, because that's what I mean.
I think I'm like, I look good and I feel pretty.
That's what I was saying.
It's like, it's about myself.
You keep bringing her up because she's like, I just don't understand.
I love the video of the dad when his daughter goes out, she chopped off her pants to wear hot pants.
So he went in the kitchen and he chopped his pants off, so he's wearing hot pants.
Yeah, and people go, What the hell is he doing?
And finally, she got the point.
Does she look like a complete pooch?
Yeah, I agree.
You know, again, the circumstances.
I just don't understand how a specific outfit equals I'm sharing my woman with the world.
Like, it doesn't compute in the world.
No, The thing is that men are really shouldn't.
Hang on, you're right.
That actually shouldn't compute because it misses the point entirely.
It's not about I don't want my woman to go out because in these clothes because it's sharing her with the world.
It's about the betrayal that she would even want to.
How many hard-ons do a woman give men just walking by looking like that?
Calm down, lady.
I'm almost done.
So what he's referencing there is he's saying, Why would a person who I value this much, I found gold, you're gold, and I'm going to treat you like you're precious in all ways to me by never putting you on display, by putting you under lock and key from all dangers.
You're as precious as diamonds and rubies.
Why would you betray that by going and putting yourself on display for other men?
That's his.
I just don't understand how it's betrayal if that's just how she likes to dress.
Because you're getting a man hard, okay?
Men look with their eyes.
How many hard-ons do you give a man when you're exposed walking down the street?
It's not, it's not about just you.
It's not always about you.
It's not always about how you feel, right?
And that, but it's also, it's also the idea here is imagine for a second that all capacity you had for caring about somebody else was imbued in one other human being.
And that human being appeared like they wanted to share themselves with others.
Wouldn't that feel like the ultimate betrayal to you?
No.
no well first of all you keep saying then it's like reasoning with a 10 year old Well, you keep saying that.
If I can't even reason with you, right?
And that's what communication is.
You're taking an unprincipled position.
Hang on, one at a time.
Let her finish, right?
She doesn't need your help.
You don't have to insert.
Right?
So, anyway, it's impossible to actually reason with you on this then.
If I ask you the question, you imbued all of your love into one person, and that one person wanted to share themselves with other people, that wouldn't feel like a betrayal to you.
How does that even make sense?
I think if you get in a relationship with someone who dresses like that constantly, then it shouldn't be betrayal to you.
So it kind of met them like that.
If you met them and that's who they are, then that's who they are.
And it's kind of on you if you're trying to change somebody.
Like whether or not you can accept it or not.
I mean, all of my.
Hang on, but hang on.
He addresses this criticism.
Why do you keep interrupting me?
But he addresses this criticism.
So he's saying, wait a second, you find this woman.
She's one of the ones that's not doing this other behavior.
She's not dressing like a this.
She's not dressing like a that, right?
She's not putting herself on display for other people.
But then why, if you did have her, would you ever want her to, even if she wanted to?
Of course you don't.
Of course not.
Yeah, I think we're talking about two different types of women.
Wait, I can, I mean, I would even address that.
So even in the situation where, okay, she's dressing that way when she's single, I think there is an expectation, obviously, when people are single, they're going to be doing single behavior.
So prior to dating, a guy could have no problem with a woman necessarily engaging in what he considered to be single behavior.
In this case, advertising yourself by dressing revealing.
But once you've started dating, once you're in a relationship, once you're married, he now wanted her to act in a way that he thought was consistent and commensurate with being in a relationship.
And here's the reality that a lot of you guys just don't like to acknowledge.
Men and women flirt differently.
So men will slide into your DMs.
Women don't really do those sort of, I'm not saying some women will slide into DMs.
We'll slide into a DMs.
We'll approach.
Women, you will put yourselves in positions to be approached.
So if you go to the club, you're not running up on 10, 20 different dudes in the night.
Hey, what's up?
Can I get your number?
No.
But you're putting yourself in a position dressed as attractively as possible to garner the attention of men.
Now, I know you guys dress up for other reasons, whatever, but you're putting yourselves nevertheless in said position to be approached.
And this applies to online, how you portray yourself online.
So if you're posting revealing photos online, you know, you don't slide into a dude's DM, but you post a thirst trap.
Guys are DMing you.
You go out to the bar and club, you're dressed revealing, whatever it is.
Maybe you don't even want that.
Guys are going to come up to you.
So that's the difference.
But here's the interesting thing.
We don't put any controls on women's single conduct.
So for example, if I was in a relationship, would you all agree that it would be essentially cheating if I'm dating a girl, I'm in a relationship with her for me to go up to a woman and flirt?
Yeah, 100%.
Sure.
And so, but the behaviors in which women elicit male attention in a relationship, men, this is all new shit.
Instagram, girls have been dressing provocatively for 40, 50 years, maybe.
Men don't clamp down on your single behaviors because it's all new.
It's all new.
But it's pretty clear.
Like if a woman, you'd step to a dude, you approach a guy, that's cheating.
I step to a girl, that's cheating.
But y'all don't step to dudes to begin with.
You don't approach men to begin with.
You put yourselves in the position to be approached.
That's your single girl behavior.
And you continue that in the relationship.
So men, we want reciprocity, but it's not, it's not perfectly, there's not perfect symmetry in the ways that we act.
So you go to the club, dress revealing.
That's what you do when you're single.
That's how you get attention when you're single.
We have to stop our behaviors.
Stepping to a girl, approaching a girl, but you guys don't.
I think those boundaries should just be communicated because some guys don't care if their girl dresses all, you know, like dumb.
I don't disagree at all.
You know, so I think that should just be communicated before a serious relationship takes place.
Yeah.
Sure, but I would make the argument that a man who doesn't care doesn't care about you.
That would be my argument that I would make.
I would make the argument that unless if a man doesn't care if you go out and you advertise all the goods all the time, he doesn't really give a shit about you.
Because the things that I care about, I keep them.
I keep them closed.
I keep them under lock and key.
I keep them guarded.
I don't let anybody near them.
But I also think you can hear them.
Go ahead.
I also think you know your partner.
So if you're dating someone who's clearly dressing up for like male attention and other male attention, or if you're dating someone who's just confident with themselves and is wearing something because they feel like they look nice, you should know the difference between those two partners.
Well, here's the thing.
People can come.
So people lie to themselves a lot, right?
Women and men both.
Women are not the only ones who lie to themselves at all, right?
Men lie to themselves often too, especially when it comes to relationships.
And oftentimes we'll live under a self-delusion, right?
That these are not problematic behaviors and things like this, even though they actually are.
So, ultimately, I'm just saying, I think it's a deluded take.
If a man that you're with, so there's two things, right?
If a man you're with is willing to share you with another man, he doesn't give a shit about you, right?
I think anybody would universally agree.
If a man lets another man sleep with you, he doesn't care about you.
But I would take it one step further and say that if a man is allowing you to flaunt your goods to other men, that's basically doing the exact same thing.
It's advertising that you're available to sleep with.
That's the point, right?
So, how can he really care about you?
I don't really believe that they could.
I don't think that they could.
Well, I do think one of the biggest issues we have right now, too, with dating is that like we don't give enough time to get to know someone.
So, your hypothetical situation could be a relationship that's been like six months, and these people don't even know each other anyway.
So, there's like no trust.
You guys haven't been through shit with each other, and then it's like all of a sudden you're jealous over this person that you just met like five minutes ago, and you're in a relationship with them, and there's like no trust because there's been no time.
Yeah, I mean, I guess, but still, ultimately, if you're saying I'm in a relationship, I just don't think, I don't see how you think a man values you if he doesn't give a shit if you dress half naked and go to a club.
They don't care about you then, they just don't care.
And even if they themselves believe that they do, it's just self-delusion, right?
Things men care about, they guard with their lives and they don't share them, they don't easily share them.
But men don't care about us like that right now because they don't know us well enough.
No, no, no, it's not that, it's that they don't, they don't care about most of you guys because that's how most of you guys act.
So, what's to care about, right?
They think, again, you're they think you're always advertising, you're always open for business, and so they think you're always open for business.
It's like you can never truly be that piece of gold that I found, that ruby I have, that really rare earth mineral that's only for me because you're still open for business.
You could be somebody else's.
That's how they have you had that earth mineral in your life.
Have you had a woman like that that you feel that way about her?
And how long did you know her?
You mean my wife?
Yeah, how long did you know her before, before you felt that way?
From dating her, yeah, from meeting her to dating her to being together.
For us, trust me, how many years?
For us, trust was built very quickly.
But you know what?
I was actually very hang on, hang on.
I was, I was actually very fortunate.
I don't remember.
You're talking about like 16 years ago.
I'm saying, like, that's why you feel this way.
I was fortunate in this take, right?
So, my wife saw me as that piece of gold, saw me as that piece of platinum, right?
I was not to be advertised.
I was not to be like, I was the hidden kept secret, the nobody's coming near you.
No, nobody's going to get near you, period, right?
Now, I'm an ugly old man now, but I used to be handsome and strong, right?
So, the thing is, it's like she didn't want nobody coming near me, right?
And that's one of the ways she showed me how valuable I really was to her.
And it's like, did you see her value in doing that immediately, or how long did it take?
There's no, the second that behavior starts, the other person at least understands how much you value them.
Yeah, I just think immediately that would be day one.
Day one, if a person said, Look, uh, I respect you too much or have enough self-respect for myself to allow myself to be seen in public with a half-naked harlot.
Um, I think that they're telling you something, right?
Um, I have like two.
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
You wanted to come in?
I'm gonna just say this: like, as a DJ, both Jade and I, we like to wear sexy outfits.
The guy I'm currently seeing, her boyfriend, like they love seeing us flourish and thrive and be in our rock star era.
And we make sure it's known that these are our men.
Like, kiss them, hold their hand, make them feel secure.
We're going home together at the end of the night.
We're getting drinks together.
So, I don't know.
I just if it works, it works for you.
And that should be discussed between both parties.
Well, how about this?
And you know what?
I even understand.
I understand the take.
I understand the take of saying, look, there's certain things that I want, certain needs that I have.
That, you know, if you're not interested in reciprocity here, I'm just not interested in a relationship.
I get that.
I'm just telling you, I think it's ultimately somewhat beside the point.
I'm saying that I don't think men can really value you or really do value you if they don't give a shit how provocatively you're dressed when you go out with your girlfriends or you go to the club or you have these types of pictures on Instagram.
I don't believe that they really do.
I think that it would be a really hard sell because I just know how men behave when they really care about something.
And when they do, man, you can't get near it.
You can't get near it.
Can I say something?
I think that you're really old and I think that the younger generation is like a little bit different.
And like I date younger guys.
No, don't interrupt me, please.
Hell will freeze over before I'll be lectured by a hooker.
Well, I'm not a hooker.
Freeze over before I will be lectured.
That's very rude.
I'm not a hooker.
Like OnlyFans is a little bit of a drink.
You're a prostitute.
No, I'm not a prostitute.
Are you on OnlyFans selling your butthole pics for 50 cents?
That doesn't discount her opinion, though.
Yeah, I'm not going to get it.
And honestly, I think it's really weird that you have a wife and you're saying those things about me.
Like, why are you worried about my body?
Why would I ever care about relationship advice from a fucking prostitute?
Why would I care about that?
And you're not going to be able to do that.
Why would I ever care?
I'm talking about normal people in normal relationships.
I mean, I actually have a rebuttal to this.
So you say younger people, they move a certain way.
The reality is, Gen Z, it's actually way more conservative, and Gen Z men are leaning way more conservative than previous generations.
So this idea that younger generations, like when I was younger, yeah, people, like girls were dressing revealing.
Like it's not, it's not a new thing.
Well, you just said that it's a new thing.
It's the last 40 years.
You just said that.
That people.
Yeah, I would say since like the 1970s, it's been progressively more and more socially acceptable to dress revealing.
I agree.
And I think all of my friends are the same age as me, and we all dress sexy.
Yeah.
We're not disputing that women dress revealing of wanting to part men's money from their wallet in exchange for your flesh.
Do you realize the distinction?
They're giving it to her.
Yeah, in exchange for her flesh.
So do you understand how biased that ultimately will end up being when it comes to the idea of relationships?
Even before I did that, even contending with that, I dress sexy too.
Yeah, because you're incentivizing men through your Instagram to go to your OF and give you money.
I just said before I ever did Instagram or OnlyFans, I dress sexy too, even in high school.
Yeah, it's not just sex workers who are involved in who dress revealing.
Yeah, but that's what he just called me a hooker and a prostitute, which I'm not.
Okay, well, that's the other thing.
Well, listen, I'm going to just tell you, because I'm not ever going to lie to you, right?
Definitionally, OnlyFans work is prostitution.
You may not like that, but that's exactly what it is.
That's your question.
Is there much difference between that and like professional football players and baseball players that like use their bodies and then they're no good waiters?
Yeah, there's a big difference.
I dated a guy with what's it called? CRT from football.
Yeah, there's a big difference.
He's messed up forever in his brain.
Like he'll never be the same from getting tackled.
Yeah, that's sexual prostration.
But he sacrificed his body and his brain for the job.
And you know what?
Kind of similar.
There's less of a likelihood for those injuries than a construction worker should men not work construction.
So the thing is, is like when you're even when you're looking at trying to make the sports comparison, which has always been a terrible comparison, that men will utilize their bodies in a professional status, which may lead to risk.
Right?
Almost all functions of men's jobs are that way.
An electrician, a construction worker.
Yeah, my whole family does that.
All of these jobs are extremely high risk, but necessary to society.
When it comes to sports is necessary to society.
How is there an equivalency to sports entertainment to selling asshole pics for $5?
I think it's that men are jealous that they can't do it.
Oh, no, they can do it.
Any woman on the planet, any woman on the planet with anything, any disability, anything can make money off of an OnlyFans with the right attitude and consistency.
Because the way that men fetishize women.
I'm sorry.
What are they making on average on OnlyFans?
Women.
I don't know what they're making.
$100 a month on average.
That's because they're not, if they're not consistent enough, I'm sure that's a lie.
You've got to know the numbers on this, but it's like.
Because there's elite, there's like with every profession, there's elite levels which make a ton of money and they're extremely.
But if anyone who wasn't elite and was consistent, they could be a millionaire again too, just posting and posting and finding their right demographic.
No, that's not true.
And we have all the evidence in the world that it's because men, it's like there's no, they're not satiated.
You do it.
The evidence is all against you.
There's tens of thousands of women who are very consistent with their OF and it never goes anywhere ever.
Literally all of my friends are making like a million dollars a month.
That's really not true.
That's not all your friends or something.
All your friends are making a million dollars a month a month.
Not all of them.
So they make $12 million.
That's what you just said.
How much do you make?
Most of my friends.
I don't want to say how much I'm making.
Is this a million dollars a month?
No, not yet.
But it should be.
So how many of your friends are making a million dollars a month?
I have like four or five friends that are making over a million million dollars.
180,000 IRS agents.
I'm sure they can.
Can you do that?
I mean, do you guys not know like Sophie Rain?
She made $42 million.
Yeah, yes, there are families, I think.
It's not fake.
It's not fake.
I think it is.
I think it is.
No, it's not.
What about the girl that was on this podcast, Nala?
She made over $18 million on OnlyFans.
Yeah, she claimed she's broke and being audited by the IRO.
Now she's broke because she stopped doing OnlyFans, and now she's a Christian.
Well, no, it's because she was moved out of that industry due to aging and due to the fact that she's very limited in her content.
Well, I have the same manager as her, and she made $18 million on OnlyFans.
Can I say that?
Yeah, we're not.
Nobody is disputing.
But he said, I'm making $100 a month.
No, I didn't say you're making $100.
You just did the meme.
Here's the meme.
I say, on average, right, women are 5'6.
And you go, I'm 5'7.
That's literally the me.
You just did it, right?
On average, women are 5'6.
And you say, that's not true.
I'm 5'7.
Do you realize how absurd that is, right?
I said on average.
I'm sorry for that.
Average woman making on OnlyFans.
Did I say anything about you?
Say anything about how much you make on OnlyFans?
Specific women are going to be able to make a lot of money on OnlyFans, right?
It has nothing to do with you.
It has to do with what they're on average making.
What are they on average making?
About $100 a month.
Well, you're such a hater on OnlyFans, but you're looking up on Safari.
Like, what's the average?
I just think that's weird.
Oh, knowing stats for an industry that I'm opposed to is weird.
That's fucking weird.
With big political opinions like that, it's no wonder you do OF, right?
Yes, of course.
You're going to do oppositional research on things that you have disagreements with.
Why wouldn't you do that?
Well, how is that even weird?
That makes no sense.
Can I ask a question about OnlyFans?
Do you think there's any type of like spiritual or metaphysical impact that like when people see your images or any videos, they like have this like tension?
Like, do you think that impacts you on a spiritual world, like in the spiritual realm?
I mean, I'm very spiritual and I believe in a lot about like energy.
And I think it is kind of weird to like give your energy out to so many people.
And sometimes I think about how many guys like see me naked.
But I honestly really like the attention and like you guys can judge me for that.
But like that's how I feel loved and like that's how I feel pretty.
Like just personally.
What do you think of crystal energy?
I'm not.
There's a big thing with Gen Z.
This is a very strange thing, a strange phenomenon.
I don't understand him.
So maybe you could, the like energy specialist could elucidate.
What is the deal with the crystals?
I'm not super into crystals.
I'm more into like manifestation.
But why do we have crystals here?
Yeah, there's crystals.
Well, crystals are really cool.
Maybe it's a way for you to like prism your energy.
Like which crystal color would you pick if you had to pick a color?
This one?
Because this one's the colour.
I think the love crystal.
Okay.
Yeah.
Something strange going on with these crystals.
I don't know what the deal is.
I think they do stuff.
They have healing energy, depending on what you use them for.
I think I have a crystal in my pocket right now.
You have a crystal one.
What color is the crystal in your pocket?
My crystal in my pocket is blue tiger's eye.
It's a little one.
It's a little one.
It's a little baby.
You carry a crystal.
Yes.
I also carry a crystal.
I love crystals.
You carry a crystal too.
What color is the crystal you carry?
I have the one, the pink one.
These crystals have atoms.
All the atoms vibrate depending on how exactly.
And so it does stuff.
And even if you don't believe the science, the fact that you think it might do something, then it's a placebo effect, and therefore it works anyways.
So we're good.
Wait, how many of you guys have crystals that you carry with you by a show of hands?
I don't carry much.
I don't know.
Okay, how many of you have crystals at home?
All of you are going in the crystals.
Every one of you.
All of them in the crystals.
Every one of you is going in the crystals.
In the crystals.
In the crystals.
You know, I have, I do have a question on this.
It was nice.
It's nice of you.
It was very convenient that they brought their own crystal to go into, though.
That is interesting.
It's very, very sweet.
I guess going to you on this, or the whole panel, really.
What do you guys think about when a guy's in a relationship liking another girl's Instagram post?
I don't give a fuck.
Don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't like it.
It depends how you interact with it.
It depends on who he's following.
He's following a bunch of chicks harder than you.
I care because I'm an Instagram model and I feel like I'm pretty enough to just have you interested in me.
And my boyfriend and actually all of my exes, they never followed a single girl because I just think they really have never.
I literally, and they want to do that.
Worms.
Okay, cool.
So you guys are fine with it, though?
Like boyfriends, just on this phone looking at I don't like it, and my boyfriend doesn't do that.
Okay, what about this?
Your boyfriend watching porn?
I don't like him watching porn because I do OnlyFans and I feel like he could be looking at my porn.
So wait, you don't want him looking at your stuff?
I want.
I want him to only look at me, not another girl doing the same thing that I'm doing, if that makes sense.
Oh, that's really controlling and insecure insecure, I guess.
What about you?
Okay, I don't really my, I don't really care for it, and but I know he wouldn't anyways.
Oh sorry I I, I don't really care for it.
Like, it is not a big deal, but particularly my man would wouldn't do that.
No preference, no preference.
But it's just yeah, I don't care, he can like whatever he wants.
I'm like, I'm not gonna trip over you double tapping on a photo.
No, what about watching corn?
I don't care either.
Like so if I'm not around you you, you need a fucking jerk one off one time.
Have a ball, go for it.
No, he's like.
But maybe what if it doesn't impact on the relationship?
Somehow he's masturbating and he doesn't have as much sexual interest in you.
I mean, that would obviously be different for that specific scenario, like we'd have to have a conversation about it.
What about you?
I think corn is really toxic.
I was introduced to corn a little too early, I think, and I just think it's.
I don't know, I don't like it.
And if someone, if I'm dating someone and they watch corn.
I just don't want to know about it, sure?
What about you?
I care, I'd prefer you not to, you know.
Oh, it's kind of controlling.
I mean it.
It might controlling, but I personally it's like if you're looking at other videos that like aren't us, what are you doing?
Like angry personal opinion, what about you?
Yeah, I used to not care, but I care now, because I stopped watching it a couple years ago and now I feel like it kind of does something to you mentally, to like have that image constantly and like unrealistic expectations.
Okay, and yeah, and you're gaining like heart and coming to like another girl, like face or like coochie or body, like I literally think that's cheating.
Then I mean, you're making my case for me.
Then you make it Muhammad Ali's case for him.
Muhammad Ali's case is like looking half naked walking around.
What do you think the men are thinking of?
Do you think that they're thinking that oh, she sure seems like a really nice, swell person?
I don't think that that's what they're thinking about.
I think they're thinking other things that are perhaps more nefarious and it brings different imagery.
Well, that's like them.
I don't know.
I don't control other people's thoughts or bodies like, even though you might think that because of how I dress but, by the way, if anybody needs any water, just like gesture to Felicity and she can get some for you.
What do you think?
I think we are free.
So if you have a very healthy relationship, you shouldn't care what the other person do when it's not with you.
Of course, talking about trust is completely different topic, but we are talking about corn, so I think that is okay.
All right, we have uh Ogle here with the big gifted 50 memberships.
Ogle, you're a legend dude.
Thank you so much, man.
Thank you, Ogle.
Guys W's in the chat for Ogle for hooking it up with 50, whatever memberships.
Thank you so much man, appreciate it.
Uh, i'm gonna read a couple of the chats then we're gonna finish up on this topic.
Zeus, actually having clear boundaries is the opposite of being insecure.
Dressing like a hold on where is it?
Do I have a button for this?
And whatever, dressing like a hoe is nothing to be celebrated.
Shaking my head, Christ Is Risen.
Uh, that is An interesting thing, because maybe a guy?
He's insecure of losing the relationship.
So, in a situation where you're crossing a boundary of his, he doesn't even want to bring it up or he doesn't want to tell you no ever.
Like, don't you want a guy to tell you no?
I don't know.
Maybe not all the time.
Not all the time, but yeah.
But, like, absolutely.
It's easier to be told.
If he wants to tell you no, wouldn't you want him to tell you no instead of just being a doormat and letting you know?
I think that's kind of insecure to not be able to say it because they're scared to say it's because they're scared you're going to leave.
You know, I don't think I should, I think they should be able to voice it.
Again, a healthy relationship, you're communicating.
If you're dating someone who's dressing like that and doesn't care, drop them.
Like, okay.
We have Mika Kali.
What's here?
What's more important than happiness, ladies?
If you think it's nothing, you definitely don't qualify to be a wife.
Righteousness, righteousness, righteousness will always be more important than happiness will ever be.
Grapists are happy when they grape, thieves when they steal, etc.
English, please.
Okay.
Mika Kali, thank you for the super chat.
Appreciate it.
And then Zeus, thank you.
Also, we have a message.
Or no, we had shop.whatever.com here.
We had someone.
Someone.
Is it always going to be a someone?
Thank you for it.
Looks like you bought a hoodie, man.
Thank you so much for that.
Appreciate it.
And yeah, that's shop.whatever.com if you guys want to get yourself a whatever hoodie or some sort of other merch.
You know what?
We're going to jump into actually, there's one other thing I think on this.
The chat was, they wanted to see your Instagram.
They want to see mine?
Yes.
So pull it up, but before you do, scroll down a little bit.
Just scroll down to where the photos are, okay?
Oh, God.
And then we'll go to the window tab.
Okay, perfect.
Just like that.
And then scroll down.
So you do like DJing and you like host parties or scroll down.
Let's see what we got.
Okay.
All right.
Keep going.
Do you do you go to raves too and stuff?
Not too often, but trying to go out more.
Trying to.
Okay.
How many raves do you think you've been to?
Only like four or five.
Four or five.
Okay.
Were you at Coachella?
I was last weekend.
Okay, nice.
Let's see.
Keep going.
There was one in particular I think I saw that was interesting.
Okay.
All right.
There it is.
All right.
No, it's not.
Keep it.
No, no, no.
Sorry.
I didn't mean keep going.
Keep going.
Okay.
I don't see nothing too, nothing too wild.
You know?
Okay.
Keep going.
Blast it down.
Keep going.
Oh.
Wait.
Okay.
All right.
Keep going.
Keep going.
God damn, how many photos do you have?
Holy shit.
She's famous.
A thousand.
You know what?
Is that over a thousand?
Who knows?
What are you looking for?
I saw like a brave photo or something that caught my eye.
But maybe.
We just.
You know what, man?
You post.
You post.
Oh.
There's a butt.
Well, okay.
There's a butt.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Stop there.
The one with the Christmas tree, son?
God damn, bro.
That's looking down Main Street.
There's a Christmas tree over it.
Wait, question.
So if your boyfriend, your boyfriend was like 99% of these are good.
But can you take down like 10 of these?
Go for it.
I do it.
You do it.
I do it.
You do it.
Okay.
All right.
That's not asking me.
There you go.
Come.
What if it was like he wants you to take down 20?
It doesn't really matter.
What if he wants you to go private?
I will not go private.
I will not go private.
Wait, okay, question on this.
Perfect guy.
Perfect guy.
Everything.
Loyal, good looking.
You love his personality, all the characteristics you look for in a guy.
But wants you to make your Instagram private.
doing it just to be you won't make your instagram private for the perfect gun It's my career on the line.
I love to DJ and I need to be public.
Wait, question though.
Do you want kids?
I do want kids.
Do you want to get married one day?
Of course I do.
He's got to be a parent.
He's got a pair of diamond in his hand.
If you had to pick.
And I'll open this question to the whole panel.
Perfect career or perfect man, what do you pick?
Perfect career because my perfect man will support my dreams.
Okay, all right.
Well, here, we'll go around the table.
What do you pick?
I pick perfect man because my goal is to have a family.
I'm working hard now because I need to.
And if I don't find a perfect man, I can rely on myself.
But I would say perfect man.
I would say perfect man.
I really want to stop doing OnlyFans and just get supported by like a guy that loves me.
So definitely perfect man.
Perfect man.
Okay.
I would say the man because a career just kind of doesn't really live longer than a career.
What about you?
You know, he doesn't even have to be perfect, okay?
I mean, I just want a strong man that works, has a career, and he's like pretty much like Moses in the Bible, you know?
Oh, sorry, he's like Moses in the Bible.
Moses in the Bible.
Yeah, I like strong men.
I can dig them.
So man over career.
Yeah.
Okay.
He doesn't have to be perfect.
I agree with T. My perfect man will support my career.
Like, you take music away from me.
I just won't be happy.
Like, it's music.
It's, I don't know.
You're not the perfect man for me if you don't support my dreams.
Period.
Maybe if I had a different job, my answer would be different.
I think if I had a different job, for sure.
But this is something that I'm like passionate about.
It's like deep rooted within me.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Well.
Okay, next.
I mean, I've made the mistake of putting all of my worth into my career and also all of my worth into a man.
And both of those doesn't work out because my industry kind of fell apart and then relationships fall apart.
What industry?
Film.
So we had strikes after strikes and COVID and all that stuff.
And I thought I was badass and then we weren't working a lot.
So I had to have a new identity outside of work.
And so I don't like putting all that into work and I don't like putting into another person.
So it's hard to pick.
If I had to pick, I would pick career.
I would pick career.
Pick career.
Perfect career.
Okay.
What does the perfect career for you look like?
Just working out more movies.
I like creating characters and like heading departments and working as a team with production.
Do you want kids?
I do not want kids, but I do want to be married.
You do want to get married?
Yeah.
All right.
What about you?
I choose career because perfect man doesn't exist and also perfect woman doesn't exist either.
So I don't believe in the perfect relationship.
I think you have ups and downs all the time.
So I was.
Hold on.
You could just say, well, the perfect career doesn't exist either.
No, the perfect girl doesn't exist.
No, I know that that's what you said.
But if you're being like, well, in reality, the perfect man doesn't exist.
Okay, in reality, the perfect career doesn't exist because there's always going to be like some bullshit.
Like, even if you're like at the top of your field, there's going to be like certain things about a career that are just kind of annoying or whatever.
I understand, but I do believe that is, I think, we have better luck finding the perfect career than a perfect man.
So, okay, let me ask a follow-up on that.
Go ahead.
And we can just do this via a show of hands.
Those of you who would select a career over perfect man, real quick again, just raise your hand.
Yeah, the perfect career over the perfect man.
Okay.
And then let me ask you a question.
Let's say that you selected over the perfect man for what you considered to be the perfect career.
Would you raise your hand again if I asked you, do you think in 20 years that you'll be happier or less happy?
You raise your hand again if you think you would be more happy with that selection in 20 years.
I don't understand the question.
In 20 years we would stick with our same answer.
Is that what you're saying?
Basically.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
I wonder.
Wait, actually, really quick.
Ogle here sent in another.
I forgot to thank him for it.
Yo, Ogle, thank you for the hundred total now.
Gifted 50, whatever, memberships.
Thank you so much, man.
Appreciate it.
And I wonder if we change.
Would you be remembered, do you think, in 20 years for your career?
Do you think you would be remembered in, you think so?
Or do you think you'd be remembered in 20 years if you had kids?
Yes.
Wait, who here thinks in 20 years time?
Wait, I don't know if this is the best framing.
That because if you're still doing your career, I don't know if this is going to make sense.
Who here thinks?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I actually don't even understand this.
Like, I worked in the private sector my entire life.
Okay.
And there were tons of people, I suppose, who had an impact on me, but they came and went.
And I never remembered them at all.
And most people never remember them at all.
Nobody makes their mark on their career.
They're forgotten.
They're gone.
Their genetic dead ends.
Right?
My name's in credit.
You become immortal through reproduction.
That's immortality for humanity.
But your kids will never like you.
Unless there's a lot of people that have kids that just can't stand them and it's sad.
I was going to say, I'll see you.
That's me.
Is it true that there's families where there's always going to be contention with the children?
Of course.
Sure.
But the truth of the matter is, is that most of the time, that is not the case.
That parents don't resent their children, don't hate their children, or even have bad relationships with them.
That's an anti-natalist talking point.
Truth is, most people have pretty good relationships with their kids, especially as their kids get older.
That's the truth.
I would love that.
I think that's the ideal.
But I've lived life.
You can be immortalized.
You are immortalized through reproduction.
You're not immortalized.
I know too many people.
Honestly, honestly.
I feel the exact opposite of that.
I know too many people with their children.
I think that a lot of people don't, like, for the people who don't.
Man, let her answer.
Let her answer.
What are you going to do that's going to make the impact on the world?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm making movies.
I make movies.
Okay, what movie are you going to make?
I create characters.
What's the impact of the world?
We're going to see.
I've done a few of them, but it's like name the one that you did that gave you a bigger impact on the world than having a child would have done.
Well, what if the child's like, like, shoots up a school or something?
Like, I don't know.
The movie sucks like most of the time.
Some of the movies do suck, but some of them are really good.
Exactly.
But it is immortalized.
Like, it's in an art form.
What I do is arts.
And I think that we are here to create art.
And I think that we're here to tell our stories.
And part of what I do is I create a story.
And like movies, you know, people want to see themselves reflected back in that.
And then you feel connected to other people.
And it's like you could have a kid.
I told you there was a thing which would reflect you 100%.
Why are you so pro-kids?
Including your own DNA.
Well, why are you so pro-antinatalism and career?
Why is it that you think that making shitty movies is going to be better than procreation?
I bet.
If you're one of the best and brightest that's really going to have the impact on the world, why wouldn't you take that best and bright energy into raising the next generation of children?
Because then my life isn't about me.
You're asking me to not make my life about me.
You're putting it into a kid who may or may not be a good person.
And I like kids, don't get me wrong.
I'm not over here saying that I hate kids.
You're a good person.
Yeah.
You're going to try your best, but there's no guarantee for that.
Yeah, but I mean, that's the thing, right?
It's like, why have any people then?
Because some of them are going to be bad.
There's plenty of people who enjoy having kids, and I would leave it up to them.
Yeah, so I just, I just out of curiosity.
If you really are so wise and you're going to be so impactful on the world, then why wouldn't you want your DNA to replicate knowing that you're going to be raising the next of the best and brightest generation to have an impact on the world?
Because I may not be able to do the impact if I'm like, you know, spending a bunch of time being a mom.
If I was to be a mom, I would quit everything and be a mom.
So I don't want to be a mom.
That's terrible.
That's awful.
I mean, you would quit everything to have the next generation.
To raise the kid, yeah, because you can't trust other people to do it, which is why I choose not to do it because I don't want to give that up.
Yeah, so it's all about you?
Me, me, me.
Yeah, thank God.
My life is about me for sure.
And then do you, you do realize, though, that you become a reproductive dead end.
Yeah, this is my last life.
If this is my last time doing this, yeah, this is the, it's the, it's a reproductive, complete dead end.
But that's, it's kind of, it's such a, it's such a weird thing you're saying because you're worried about what your legacy is going to be when you're dead.
Like you're going to be dead.
So who cares?
No, no, no, no.
Listen, that's okay.
Like you're worried about when I die.
Like are people going to remember me?
And it's like you're dead.
Who cares?
What is the expectation of your logic then?
Why doesn't everybody on earth just put a pistol to their head and pull the trigger then?
Because they'll all be dead.
Who cares?
No, because we have purpose.
We're here to make art.
Oh, we have purpose.
Yes, the purpose is to make art.
You're missing the plot.
You have it backwards.
No, no, I'm sure you're an artist.
Did you used to paint or draw or write or sing when you were younger?
Like, come on.
Yes, you are.
Yes, you are.
What did you love to do when you were younger?
Bring it back.
You have some instrument in your closet or some song you wrote down or something like that.
You're an artist.
We're all artists.
See, bring it back.
You messed up and had kids instead of making art.
That's your fault.
That's the dumbest thing that I've ever heard.
So I just want to make sure we got this clear.
You say I'm going to be a reproductive dead end.
Who cares?
Because after all, I'll be dead.
But using the extension of that logic, like, who cares if everybody dies and has no kids then?
I mean, we are all going to die.
But I think if you're talking about the world.
But if all of us died and had no kids, who cares?
Because we're all dead.
Yeah.
I mean, we don't need to really make any more people.
We don't need to make any more people.
I think we're good.
But you can't.
We don't need to make any more people.
This could be the last generation ever.
Totally fine.
Yeah, we could just start over.
Oh.
Okay.
Good times.
Good times.
Hey, chat.
I'm going to send a message in the chat, but I'm getting some reports that for the third week in a row, Streamlabs is not working.
TTS is not really working.
If you guys can, you don't have to, but I think this would be the most helpful.
Streamlabs.com/slash whatever.
Just send in, see if you can send in even just $1.
I don't know what's going on.
Maybe some of them will come through.
Maybe some of them won't.
Not sure what's going on.
It's really weird.
So if that doesn't work, I'm going to switch everything over to super chats.
So it's just going to be through YouTube, super chats, because that seems to work.
You can also do it through Venmo, which I need to do a couple shout outs.
Oops, what the heck just happened?
I'm going to do a couple shout-outs here.
Venmo Cash App, it's whatever pod.
If TTS isn't working, we can also do it through there.
Venmo, Cash App, whatever pod on both.
Vaquero, think for the 10 on Cash App.
Colin, thank you for the 10 on Cash App.
He says, love the show.
Thank you so much, man.
Appreciate it.
And then I see the big, is he still watching?
James Sexton.
Oh, oh, James.
You know what, James?
I'm going to sue you.
I'm going to sue you for breaking my heart because we've been trying to get you on the show for so long, James.
You're here.
You're coming to California.
You know what, James?
Flake on Huberman.
Flake on Huberman.
Flake on who?
What else you got?
You got, I don't know, Bradley Martin.
Who you got?
You got what's he going on?
Now, Brian, it's you can't put me in the position of the defense between two friends, right?
But Mr. Sexton has been doing the Lord's work all over the country for the last year, especially with his down interviews, and he's been kicking ass.
Oh, he's doing great.
He's doing great.
I have to, you know, move my proverbial hats off to her.
Yeah.
Is that really him?
Who, James Sexton?
Yeah.
Yeah, no, James.
James is.
Is he a friend of the show?
James is a friend.
He's a friend of the show.
He actually consulted with me.
I was going through a Rico case and, you know, a very serious Rico case in New York City.
You know, and he got me out of some shit.
So, James Sexton, James, I'm going to sue you.
I'm going to follow small claims action in California.
It's meritless.
It's going to be completely meritless.
But I'm going to sue you, James.
I'm going to serve you when you're in California.
Watch out.
My process server, he's coming for you, James.
And what is the cause of action, you might ask?
Emotional distress, James.
Intentional infliction of emotional distress for not being able to make it on the podcast, James.
You've broken my heart.
I have damages.
Are you threatening one of the best lawyers around with lawfare, Brian?
That's exactly what I'm going to do.
I've got damages, James.
Emotional.
What the fuck?
Yeah, it's, you know, I'm going to sue him for $3.50 about TreeFitty.
Okay.
Kat says Streamlabs is working.
Thank you for that.
But, James, yo, good to see you in the chat, man.
Thank you for the super chat.
You know, and we'll get him on eventually, guys.
It's been a work in progress.
And yeah.
Anyways, okay, where were we?
James, thank you for the super chat.
Let me check in on some of these messages coming through.
So some people are saying that Streamlabs is working because I got Jay here.
That came in clean.
Thank you, Jay.
Lewis, that came in.
We have Fifi saying just testing.
So that works.
Let me check.
Minimum tip for recent events.
Let me change that.
One sec, guys.
Just making sure our Stream Labs is working okay.
It's frustrating because for the past three weeks, it just has not been really working.
Okay, we have Coastal Operator.
So that's so weird.
Sons of Liberty, that's oh, it's not displaying.
Sons of Liberty sent in a $1.
Coastal sent in $6.90.
Cat, $1.
So is it coming through?
Sorry, guys.
It's just like I kind of might have to switch it over to super chats.
I don't know.
We'll let it go for a little longer.
And if it's just not working, then I'll have to switch it over.
Guys, like the video, please.
Also, if you can pull up Twitch, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever, twitch.tv/slash whatever.
Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.
And then what else is there?
Oh, yeah.
Check if you have a prime sub available, guys.
And then one sec here.
Oh, we got to do here.
You know what?
We're going to do this.
Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.
You can't pick seven.
Starting with you.
Go ahead.
I was just going to pick seven.
Can't pick seven.
Can't pick seven.
Seven and a half.
Word?
An eight.
Okay.
Eight.
Okay.
I would say six point nine.
I don't have a number.
Beauty's in the eye of the beholder.
You had to pick.
You had a pick.
You know, I need a curve, a major curve, because I'm older.
I'm not younger.
You know, I just had a guy tell me I was beautiful, so it's like throw something out there for us.
I don't know what he, what his number chart is.
How do you see yourself?
I'll say five because I like the number.
What about you?
Seven and a half.
Seven and a half?
Okay.
Ten.
Ten?
Okay, what about you?
Eight.
I get myself a five.
Andrew, what about you?
I mean, obviously I'm a 10.
Just look at James Sexton.
Since you're still in the chat, what do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten?
James, are you single?
Because we got some single ladies here, and I might, you know, I could.
He's quite happily married.
Oh, right.
We're the single ones.
Sorry, Ms. Sexton.
You said while I have him pulled up, you can't scare a prostitute with a dick, brother.
See you in court, Atlas, sending you love.
Wow, to you.
And Wilson, you two are always home team.
You can't scare a prostitute.
Unless she passes out.
I don't know if he was here for that part.
But James Sexton, what do you rate yourself on the scale of one to 10?
James Sexton, coming in with a big super chat.
Thank you so much, man.
Really appreciate it.
Good to see you in the stream.
You know what?
Also, I'm also going for treble damages, Mr. Sexton.
Treble damages and a restraining order and an injunction.
And what's the other thing?
What's the thing where there's a term for it?
I'm going to compel you.
I'm actually going to legally compel you to come on the podcast.
It's called shit.
There's a legal term.
James Sexton, you're my attorney.
Help me out here.
What's the legal term for when the court...
No.
What the fuck?
What?
Summit?
No.
It's the court can have you take an action and there's a legal term for it.
Damn it.
Got to brush up on my legal stuff.
Okay, James Sexton, thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Oh, he's.
Oh my goodness.
He's back in the chat.
I'm a three, but an 11 when I'm standing up on my wallet.
James Sexton.
Hold on.
Let me play something for you, James Sexton.
Erroneous.
Erroneous.
James Sexton, you're a handsome man.
I give you a solid.
You're an eight.
Especially if you show your sleeves, your tattoos with your little vest on.
Not little vest.
It's a regular sized vest.
You're a handsome guy, James.
Very handsome guy.
I'm sure back in law school, where did you go to law school, by the way?
You went to, you know, like the one that in Better Call Saul, where he went to like America, Samoa.
You get the term, the term is specific performance.
Specific performance.
That's, it was on the tip of my tongue.
I will, I'm going for specific performance, James.
I'm going to go to judge, be like, listen, you know, look, actually, you know what, James?
He says Fordham Law, by the way.
He said what?
Fordham law.
Oh, Fordham Law.
Okay.
You know, look, James, I relied.
Detrimental reliance.
You know, I scheduled my producer to be here on the day that you were going to.
So detrimental reliance, James.
I've got you.
Back's against the wall.
You're on your back foot.
It's coming, James.
It's coming.
It's coming.
The lawsuit's coming.
The girls are not enjoying the legal prattle.
So I'm going to.
You know, the bromance is great.
Yeah, you're really good.
Yes.
We love that.
Yes.
And so if any of you guys, anyone from New York, look, if anybody's watching, you live in New York and you need an attorney.
James Sexton is your guy, attorney at law, Esquire.
He's one of the best.
No, excuse me.
I'm sorry.
Let me retract that statement.
He is the best attorney in New York City.
He also practices occasionally in the Bahamas and in Utah and Idaho.
I'm not sure about those last two, but okay, good, good talk, guys.
Good talk.
That was great.
Very much fun.
Hang on.
I did want to throw this in, Brian.
James did want me to relay free prenups for the entire panel.
Oh, my God.
Thank you.
Really?
That's very generous.
Free prenups.
And I think he's trying to say that on behalf of your future husbands, but I could be wrong.
He just said free prenups for the whole thing.
Free prenups.
And you know what, James, spice it up a little bit.
Can we do a buy one, get one free for something?
Maybe restraining order.
So if you got two guys stalking you, he'll do it for the price of one.
Okay.
In the state of New York.
Okay, good talk.
So let's see here.
Where were we?
Oh, rating.
So we had, you're the 10, only 10, how's that going?
Great.
Good.
I'm happy for you.
Yeah, I'm the best I've ever looked.
Now, question though on the whole 10 thing.
Can you tell me a girl who you think is a 10?
Another girl?
That's not you.
Yeah.
Wait, you mean like a famous person or just like anybody?
Yeah, throw, you know, throw out a, yeah.
I'm trying to think of, I mean, Charlize Theron is a 10.
Megan Fox.
Sure.
Is she a 10?
Yeah.
I'm saying by my own standards of myself, like, yeah, I'm a 10 for sure.
You disagree?
Uh, what?
Sorry, what?
Do you disagree?
Wait, question.
Also, you had a bunch of girls here.
We got some sevens, eights, whatever.
Do you think, like, do you, because you're the 10, you said you're the 10, you gave yourself the highest rating here, besides Andrew.
Do you think you're the most attractive gal at the table?
Um, I think attraction is like, I think I'm very attractive, and I think attraction just depends.
It's like different for everyone, but I also think that confidence is a huge part of it.
And I think that on paper, someone can look like the most beautiful woman, and you can see that they'll like crumble and have no confidence.
And I think that that plays like a really big role in it.
I think if we're talking about westernized standards of beauty, it's like, yeah, I'm a size 14, like I'm bigger than like other women or whatever.
You can see all kinds of things.
I have tattoos.
I have naturally gray hair.
I'm a little weird, but like that's natural.
That's natural.
Yeah, so it's like it is cool.
You think I'm a 10, calm down.
I mean, you said you, well, hold on.
I mean, if we're going, if there's other factors, other factors.
You said you have a sociology.
You have to get eye contact with me.
I think I make you nervous.
Okay.
You said, hold on.
You have a sociology degree though.
I do.
Uh-huh.
Wouldn't, I mean, what's wrong with that?
Sociology?
I mean, in 2011, my entire degree was on Tumblr within three years.
So, like, it was a whole waste of time.
Like, I'll tell you that.
But speaking of, we have Kat here with a gifted 50 memberships.
Thank you, Kat.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Kat, guys, W's in the chat for Kat for the hookup.
Thank you.
Okay.
And wait, I have a question for you.
I mean, you think I, okay.
What do you rate me on a scale of one to ten?
You?
Yes.
Looks.
Looks, it would be higher if your confidence level was higher.
Higher if confidence level was higher.
Yeah.
I'm probably right there with you with your six, but if you, if you, you know, stretch your chest out a little bit more, then like I would give you a higher number, like eight or something.
So six, you said?
Lack of eye contact says something.
I'm not, I'm not going to turn myself.
You're so nervous.
I'm not nervous at all.
No, it's just the way the cameras are set up.
Yeah, I don't look.
I don't turn and look to people during the show.
Well, I mean, I can prove it, though, because in your pre-show instructions, since I've heard him like 50,000 times, you literally told me that.
He said he told us to look out of the corner of our eyes.
Can I finish a sentence?
Yes, you can.
You're literally told, please don't turn your head to look and make eye contact with other guests.
Instead, look at the cameras.
I know I've heard it a million times, so that's how I can prove this.
Is it true?
Did we say that?
Okay, I'm wrong.
She's wrong.
See, boom.
Confidence.
I'm good with that.
Yes.
Boom.
There.
Lawyer, James Saxon, New York City Attorney of Law, Esquire.
Okay, so wait.
Oh, so six and ten.
So you'd be, just to be clear, like, you would be doing me a favor, like you would be settling for me.
I wouldn't say settle.
It's kind of settled.
But do we have to be the same number to be together?
No, you don't have to, but somebody would be settling.
I want to be the hot one.
Is that okay?
It's okay for you to want that.
Okay.
All right.
Just wanted to make sure we're on the same page that you would be doing me a favor.
Yeah.
You know, it would be a lot of favors.
Oh, no.
Okay.
For sure.
A lot of settling.
So a lot of settling.
Okay, cool.
Got it.
And then, you know what?
Going around the table.
Or wait, can you tell me a guy who you think is 10 and looks?
I think an example.
Like maybe a famous guy or something?
Only because this is not a flex, but it's just like on my mind because I worked with Justin Herbert and he's a very handsome man.
Who the fuck is that guy?
Justin Herbert.
Can we go to Google on Justin Herbert, please?
While you're doing that, also, James did throw in that he would do BOGO orders of protection for everybody except the girl in the bunny ears.
Said he feels like she may already have a few against her, uh, but that's just a gut feeling.
What does that mean?
Uh, but I guess he feels like it.
There's a possibility we have some protection orders against you.
Speaking of, uh, he, Brian, your lawyer game is getting strong.
You're hired if you move to New York City.
You know, James, much like Kim Kardashian did an apprenticeship and she skipped law school.
I think it, you know, you want to take me under the wing, don't have to go to law school.
I'll take me under the wing.
Harvey Specter and Mike Ross.
Well, hang on, even better, Brian.
Recently, we shot a bunch of bimbos into space and now they're astronauts.
So, I mean, I feel like all you gotta do is walk into a court and you're a lawyer, bro.
I think that's how it works.
But apparently, that is the thing, though.
Like, most people go to law school, and maybe it was more so the case like way back, way back.
But you could also do apprenticeship under an attorney, but it's really rare.
It's super rare now.
But I guess Kim Kardashian did it.
So you guys will see me in the mailroom of James Sexton's law office for the next three years and being paid.
How much are you going to pay me, though, James?
Okay.
What is that?
What is that black thing on the table?
Can you remove that?
Was that a hair tie?
Yeah.
Keep that to yourself, please.
Keep it.
Okay.
Okay, did we get cat here?
Oh, this is the guy.
Okay, Justin Herbert.
Okay, so how old is he?
So embarrassing.
I don't know.
He's like 20-something.
I worked with him one time, you guys.
He's a wait, he's an actor?
He's a football player.
Wait, here, type in at the top, Justin Herbert's salary, and then switch to web.
Let's go.
Okay, now hit all 50.
Average annual salary is 52.5 million.
This is the highest in NFL.
Wait, really?
What is he a quarterback?
Yes.
So wait, just to be clear.
36, right?
I'm 36, yes.
Do you like, is that, do you think Justin Herbert, like, that's your league?
Uh, yeah.
Highest paid NFL quarterback, handsome-looking guy.
Is he, how tall is he?
Tall guy?
He's like 6'6, I think.
Okay, 6'6.
6'6, highest paid NFL quarterback, good-looking guy, professional athlete, fit.
He's signed to the lawsuit.
Wait, hold it.
Wait, hold on.
Pull that back up.
It's not just, hold on, pull it back up.
He's 27 years old.
No, no, just pull it up.
F11, please.
Scroll down.
Scroll down.
Hold on, Potts.
He has a 218 million guarantee.
How much do you make?
How much do I make?
Yeah.
Not that.
So, just to be clear.
Wait, do you want?
Wait, do you think?
But I'm not a man.
I'm not going to support you.
Do you even make 1% of that?
I don't know.
Probably not.
Math like that.
I don't think anybody here at the table makes.
Wait, is this about looks or looks?
Yeah, because I thought we were talking about looks.
But it's the whole package.
No, no, we're talking about looks, babe.
Like, looks, yes, 10 out of 10.
Perfect match.
I want to ask the ladies, do you think, be honest?
Is that a fair?
Is that the looks match?
Justin Herbert, Amanda.
It's a fucking rave going on outside.
Wow, crickets.
Hello?
Is anybody gonna why guys do them side by side?
You know what?
Hold on.
You know what?
I'm a 10.
Google a photo of young Anna DeR Moss.
Google it.
Image.
You know what?
I think that this is, or we could do young Megan Fox.
Why young?
She looks great now.
Huh.
Uh huh.
Uh, you know.
She's gorgeous.
Scroll down.
Scroll down.
I mean, so she's a bit old in some of these, you know.
But I'll accept it.
I'll allow it.
Is that fair?
You think for me?
You think that guy, for me, I can.
You think that's fair?
Oh, no.
Wait, hold on.
Why is it so easy for y'all to be like, no way, Brian?
It's fair.
Out of your league.
But when it comes to a woman, why can't you?
Why can't you just be like, you know what, sweetie?
You know what, sweetie?
Sweetie.
So beautiful.
Why would anybody disagree?
I was easier, you know.
You know what, sweetie?
You're very beautiful.
I think you could do it.
But he might be a bit outside your league.
Why can't you say that to a woman?
Oh, we can.
And he's like, I think you can.
But I asked and y'all were silent.
Y'all were nothing.
Because she is pretty.
She's good looking.
Oh.
You're good.
Oh.
You know, but she's like gorgeous.
Like.
Oh, okay.
I think you guys look good together.
Damn.
This is crazy.
Wait, okay.
I'm going to just say it.
I'm going to just say it.
You guys can.
If you're upset, you can tell me.
Why can't average women just admit that they're average looking?
I mean, they can.
I don't think I'm average looking.
Beauties in the eye.
Beauty's in the eye.
What makes you above average looking?
When somebody tells you you're beautiful.
Yeah, I know, but what makes you above average looking?
When somebody tells you you're beautiful.
No, no, no.
I'm asking her.
Are you asking me?
Yeah, I mean, I think I'm just beautiful.
I have a beautiful face.
I have big lips.
I have nice eyes.
I'm like, like sexy, but also kind of like your mom at the same time.
Like, it's like this like weird thing with men that like they want to tell me everything, but then they also have fantasies about me.
It's like kind of this like perfect in-between.
You know what?
I like it.
I like it.
Have you seen X-Men?
I can see.
Look, if a guy's got a thing for Rogue, you're good.
You're locked in, bro.
And they do.
I see that angle.
But that's the angle.
That's fine.
Can we Google a picture of Rogue from X-Men?
Did I get the right X-Men?
It is Rogue.
That's the correct X-Men.
Yeah, just Google it really quick so we just have a point of reference.
Oh, Anna, what's her name?
Who played Rogue?
Anna, what's her?
I don't know.
Pull it up.
Anna Nicole Smith.
Definitely not that.
She's beautiful.
Scroll down.
Yeah, okay.
See?
She's so pretty.
Rogue.
She has Storm.
You could do Storm too.
That's good.
Drug addicts ended her own life.
Anna Nicole Smith definitely ate previous.
Well, that's not the pretty I'm talking about.
I'm talking about when she was on her way up and she was looking beautiful.
She was trying to grip the guy out of millions of dollars.
Well, he was willing.
Oh, yeah.
So that makes it okay.
Do unethical things.
Well, because he dug her.
He thought she was great.
Look, she was a single mom.
She needed a support.
No, nobody got the last laugh.
Nobody got the money.
Not even the breakfast.
Brock from the Mike Jones donated $200.
Cast 7 is Cruella Delusional.
Oh, I love Cruella Delusional.
Mike.
I was feeling that.
Wait, is this the Mike Jones?
Is this the Mike Jones?
I forgot if I pulled this up again.
I forgot if I did it.
Yo, Mike Jones, sorry for the delay on the TTS.
We were just kind of in the middle of it.
Thank you for that.
Be Mike Jones?
I think it is the Mike Jones, the rapper, probably.
Yo, Kat, thank you again for that.
We have one message, one chat coming through.
I'm going to get pulled up here real quick.
Real quick, Direct.
He says, everyone can create, but not everyone.
Oh, I did it twice.
My bad.
Direct says everyone can create, but not everyone can be an artist.
Chair seven, we all are not artists, only some of us, a very low number, unfortunately.
We're all artists.
That's so sad.
You're an artist.
I support you and your art.
So then I guess there's nothing exceptional about being an artist.
If everybody does it.
You guys all just want to win.
Well, I mean, that would be the case, right?
There would be nothing exceptional about being an artist because we're all artists.
We're all exceptional.
Is this like everybody gets an award thing?
Well, if everyone's exceptional, then nobody's exceptional, right?
Wait, what would exceptional mean then?
It wouldn't mean anything.
I have a question.
Why is everyone an artist?
Like, what's like, you know.
No, I just have a theory about just like life that we're here to create art.
Like, we're here to make art.
Art is infinite.
It's one of the things that's infinite.
Music is infinite and that kind of thing.
And like, we're here to express ourselves because we need to leave a mark on what it's like to be human because one day we're going to die and we're going to be spiritual.
Except for children.
Except with children and the continuation.
You can have them.
We're not children.
Kids are fine.
I don't hate kids.
No, no, no.
Earlier you said that I don't want them.
If humanity came to an end, it's okay.
It was time for a reset anyway.
That's what you said.
I just think if we stopped, it'd be fine.
Wait.
Question.
So then no more humanity.
So then no more artists.
Maybe we'd reincarnate on a different planet instead of Earth because this one's not doing too good.
Are we doing Mormon rules now?
No.
No.
Well, are we doing alien reincarnation rules?
I don't know.
How do rules work here?
We don't know the rules.
Just follow your heart.
I'm pretty sure we do know that if we don't have kids, there's not going to be any more humans.
I'm pretty confident that we can agree on that rule.
I think we could agree, though, that that's not a problem.
Like, people are still having them.
People are not stopping.
Like, they're still going.
Have you looked at the reproduction rate in the United States under replacement level significantly?
And it's going to continue to go down.
That's also because of financial insecurity, though.
It has a lot more.
Elon's doing his best.
It has nothing to do with finances.
Listen, I'll prove it to you.
The poorest people on planet Earth have the most kids.
So it can't be about finances.
Must be about something else.
Yeah, I wouldn't have kids if I'm poor, though.
I know it's like preference-wise, like technically.
Yeah, right, right.
But I'm just saying the poorest people have the most.
The problem is men don't want to have kids.
I've been challenged with that my whole life.
Really?
Because I just heard the answers at the table of the women and they're saying they don't want to have kids.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I'm speaking for myself.
Yeah, I know, but most of the men have been dating.
They never wanted kids.
And it's like, I don't know if it's a California thing or what have you.
Most of them are weak.
They want the woman to support them.
Unfortunately, they're not manly men.
And thank God things are changing because of Charlie Kirk.
Yes, thank you.
I think they don't want to have kids if it's like the kids.
W. Charlie Cardinal.
All of my boyfriends, like for some reason, really wanted to have kids with me.
Like my boyfriend right now wants me to get pregnant really bad, but I'm just not ready.
I think she's trying to trap you.
Don't do that.
She's not ready.
Okay.
Here we go.
See, there's that anti-natalist rhetoric.
You see?
He's trying to trap her.
You're trying to take her off the market.
You can have kids.
The problem with that is what?
It's like crabs in the kids.
Controlling.
Wait, what's the matter?
What does that mean?
They're about to achieve success.
They're about to have kids and have a happily ever after.
And you just put your little pincers up and pull them right back down.
No, she just said that she doesn't want the kid and that they're trying to push it on her.
I mean, I definitely want to have kids in the future, but I'm 18.
I don't want kids right now.
Are you actually 18?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, maybe five years ago.
Okay.
I don't know.
Good talk.
Okay, so.
Oh, wait.
Okay, so hold on, guys.
Guys, guys, guys.
So moving off of the looks thing, sort of.
She wants that NFL player.
$52 million a year, six foot six, professional athlete, massive amounts of status, massive amounts of success.
Keep going.
Fit.
Good-looking guy, whatever it is.
Genuinely, do you think that's a good match?
Like a fit, not sorry, not a good match, a fair match.
You meet the person.
How is it?
I mean, if she said, didn't you say you worked with them a month?
Well, yeah, I worked with him.
But if, I mean, if I was to use like real life examples, all of my exes are hot.
Like, I don't know why you guys, like, like, you seem shocked, but like, every guy I've been with is like very attractive.
Were they all like multi-multi-multi-millionaires?
We weren't talking about money, babe.
We're talking about looks.
Yeah, but rewind the tape.
I was like, okay, moving off about looks in total, the total package.
And I listed the things that don't have anything to do with looks.
And I was like, is that a fair proposition?
Is that a fair match?
So I'm moving off of looks and it's just the total package.
Total package.
Right.
Well, I don't need to make that.
So I don't need to make that amount of money to be on the stage.
But does that make a man attractive if he makes $50 million a year?
Of course, it makes him attractive.
Yes, women are attractive.
It's about looks, but someone with that amount of money is going to have access to way more women.
So it's like, yeah, the likelihood of someone like that settling down might be less.
But is it impossible?
Absolutely not.
Yes, I agree.
It's not impossible, but it's improbable.
Do you agree with that?
I don't know.
We'll see in like five years.
I'll let you know when I have like my rich hot husband and I'll come back here and let you know.
Maybe faster, actually, now that I'm on the bottom.
Also, but the thing is, you don't want kids.
So the men who are geared towards this isn't.
Ideally, they already have kids, so they don't bother me about it.
Because that's why me and my ex broke up was because he wanted kids and I didn't want to.
Yeah, I get that you don't want to have kids, but I would argue one component: if you're looking to get a successful man, a lot of men, they do want a family, they do want kids, and they are successful in furtherance of being able to provide for a family.
Now, there are men, there are men who want to be rich just for the sake of being rich and the material goods that that can confer upon them.
And being rich frees you in many ways.
But I think a big motivation for a lot of men is the ability to provide for a wife and for kids.
So this idea that you're like, well, we'll see in five years when I'm with my super rich person.
I'm like, well, the light, because you don't want kids, I actually think it's less likely that you're going to end up with a high earner because high earners probably one of the big motivations for that is wanting to have kids.
I would say I hear you and I understand where you're coming from, and you're probably right in a lot of senses.
My demographic is divorced, has kids, and second marriage.
But I'm second marriage vibes.
But so you said you want a guy who already has kids.
Yeah.
But, okay, so is your objection to having kids you don't actually want to burden?
I don't want to, I have no desire to be pregnant.
But okay, you do want to have kids.
Yeah, I would like to have kids around.
Yeah, I could be set mom.
Okay, this is a distinction that makes things a bit more clear.
So, okay, that changes things a little bit.
But in any case, I'd like to ask the panel again.
I don't know why y'all are quiet here.
Do you think it's a fair match?
Yes.
Yes.
Period.
What is what?
I think it's a fair match.
Okay, the NFL guy who makes $50 million a year, who's six foot six, super attractive, bunch of status.
I think he would rather be with like a 21-year-old.
Okay, but is it a fair match?
Yes or no question.
I would say no.
Fair match?
No, but I think you're really beautiful.
Thank you.
Fair match?
I think it just depends on what he wants.
Like what he wants.
Okay, but externally looking at it, sure, maybe he wants to know only if he wants like kids with her.
Then it's like definitely not fair.
Because like you said, he has money.
So if he wants kids and she doesn't, then it's definitely not a good match and not fair.
It's just what he wants.
Wait, hold on.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
I have some follow-up on this.
What do you think?
I think no, because she doesn't want kids.
Okay, but I don't know if you guys can.
Okay, hold on.
Forget the kid part.
Okay.
Just on the money.
Financially, it's not going to work.
She doesn't make the kind of cash she does.
She doesn't, he doesn't care about money.
He doesn't care about money.
If he doesn't care about money, then like, why is it like a thing?
Like, because I'm not saying that, oh, well, if you are a man who makes $50 million a year, you can only date women who make $50 million a year.
What I'm trying to point out by saying he makes $50 million a year, that makes him way more attractive to a much larger pool of other women.
Bingo.
That makes him really, really attractive.
That means he can get a certain caliber and quality of winning that maybe wouldn't be open to him if he worked in Walmart and was making $40,000 a year.
So given this, given this, do you think that it's a fair match?
Exclude the whole kid component.
Let's just remove that.
Like, you just, you said money is not a factor, but then you said if he worked at Walmart, like, that's literally finances.
He just wants to know if it's fair.
Like, I'm saying that.
A guy who makes $50 million a year doesn't care how much money you make.
Then we're just talking about looks then.
Yeah.
Yes.
Normally it's not going to be a good idea.
No, but what I'm saying is: okay, given the totality of all the traits that make him attractive, his looks, his status, his money, whatever it is, and all the things that make her attractive, whatever those things are, is that fair?
If we're basing it off that, I would say no.
Can I give you an illustration I just read about on the story of Sex in the City?
One of the people's comments was: Carrie's chasing Big throughout the whole series, right?
And Big finally marries her, but when he dies, he gives his money to his first wife, who's the model, the French model, because she was his caliber.
Carrie was never his caliber.
She was like a second choice person.
Okay.
I'm just saying.
Is it fair?
No.
Fair?
For me, it's fair.
What do you mean for you?
It's fair.
Why for you is why you use that word fair?
That would make me think about like why use that.
Why isn't fair?
Why you come to me?
Let me make it super simple.
Have you guys ever seen a girl and you're like, I can't believe she's with him?
And the thought process there for you guys is she's way more attractive than him.
She's way whatever all the characteristics is.
Maybe you have a female friend who's like, she's so great.
She's got her career.
She's so beautiful.
But she's with this bum.
Has that never crossed through any of your minds?
It's happened ever.
Okay, so why are you able to make determinations as to, wow, this girl here, up here, guy down here, girl here, guy down here.
But when it comes to, oh my God, I can't believe I have to explain this.
Girl down here, guy up here.
You're like, no, that's impossible.
A guy can never settle.
Y'all are delusional.
I think what it is is because we're all girls at the table.
So we all know how it is like being judged off looks and everything.
So I think everyone's just trying not to be mean.
I think that's what it is.
Everyone's just trying to be.
I actually agree with that.
And I thought we're not talking about it.
She's right.
I think that what happens when you get a bunch of women together is they don't want to tell the truth to each other.
Right?
Like, for instance, I'm just going to point this out.
We can run a quick social experiment if you'd like, right?
And I'll prove it.
Okay.
All of you, close your eyes.
Close your eyes.
Everyone, close your eyes.
Don't open them.
Okay.
Raise your hand if you think you're the best looking woman at the table.
Okay, hand down.
All right.
Open your eyes.
Now, you, to the chair I was just speaking to, this would be what?
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
I'm sorry.
Usually I write down the names.
I was a little late to the broadcast.
Please forgive me for that.
It's okay.
Who do you think raised their hand?
Only one woman did.
Why do you think it was her?
Because she rated herself a 10.
Is she?
I think the prettiest girl in the room is Jade.
Oh, thank you.
I mean, stop.
Is she?
Is she?
No.
To my scale of what a 10 is compared to a 1 is no.
But you are a very beautiful woman.
She said she was a 10.
Oh, I was.
She said she was.
This is my belief about myself.
Let us have the engagement here.
But when she said she was a 10, you didn't interject yourself, right?
And it's exactly because of that, right?
You wanted to be nice.
Yeah.
You wanted to be nice?
Yeah.
But it doesn't actually reflect reality.
And that's often the point we come into in these shows, right?
Is what reflects reality and what doesn't.
And it's like very quickly we can ascertain just through a couple of very quick social experiments that what is said on these panels versus what is actually being thought, two very, very, very different things.
But reality is subjective, though.
Yeah, you know, that's really funny that you say that.
When you say reality is subjective, is everything subjective?
Most a lot of it is.
I mean, there's like cultural standards of things, but for the most part, are we having this conversation right now or is that objective?
What was that?
We're having a conversation right now.
Is that subjective?
We're having a conversation right now.
Yes.
Are we all perceiving it differently?
Yes.
Yeah, but is it objective that we're having one?
Yeah, we're having one.
Is that objective or subjective?
Well, the way that I'm perceiving it is subjective, but it's objective that we're having one.
Okay, so there are objective truths then.
There are objective truths, but like when we're talking about like rating and opinions, it's just different.
Okay, so if somebody said this isn't a tree and it was a tree, they would be wrong, right?
That's like a whole other like philosophical conversation, but I mean, there is an objective reality.
Yeah, and then there's interpretation.
Conversation right now, would they be wrong?
If they said that we're not or we are, we're not.
They would be wrong.
They would be wrong.
Okay, then it sounds like we have some objective standards that we can point to.
I don't know why you think beauty is any different.
For instance, you would agree with me that humanity has to produce in order to survive.
You would agree that that's true, right?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, okay.
So we would agree that that's true.
But in order to produce, you have to have young, fertile females to reproduce with.
You agree that that's also true, right?
Yes.
Okay, so if that's true, then it stands to complete reason that men would be attracted to young fertile females because that would lead to reproduction, right?
You could say that like a majority maybe of what you're talking about, like you could say.
I'm not going to say anything's in a monolith, but it does make sense that men would be attracted to young fertile females if we wanted to have, you know, children, right?
That makes sense, doesn't it?
Sure.
Yeah, sure.
So then that would mean that when we're talking about things men are attracted to, which would be the things that are reproduction.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Don't need the sisterhood just yet.
You can chime in in a second.
But that would mean then that if it is the case that men are looking for younger women to reproduce with, because that's the primary edict, that beauty would be at least somewhat objective because we'd be looking for youthful features, right?
What would the youthful features be?
Well, let's think about it for a second.
All of the things that women enhance themselves with, let's see, full lips, rosy cheeks, perky breasts, voluptuous hips, hourglass-like shapes, right?
All of the things that you do, cybernetic enhancements in order to accommodate, all seem to be alluding towards a youthful appearance for the purpose of attractiveness, right?
I would say that I also want to make note that I'm talking to like two white guys and like none of my exes are white.
And so like you're talking about like that standard of beauty also.
Like, so which one of your exes would you think would disagree on a youthful woman hot?
i mean if they're not creepy like if it just depends like if someone's like creepy there's a biological reason for it why would that be creepy I think if someone is, it's if someone is at a certain age and they're constantly seeking like somebody incredibly younger than them constantly, then that just kind of says something about them where they are mentally.
But it just depends.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Do you think you think people can help who they're attracted to then?
So like homosexuals, for instance, can help who they're attracted to, right?
I mean, I don't know anything about that because I'm not.
Yeah, so can you help who you're attracted to?
I mean, I do like, yeah, I'm drawn to what I'm drawn to.
I guess you could say that.
Oh, okay.
So then if it's a biological function for reproduction, that's what make man horny.
That's what make woman horny.
But you can't say that that's for every man.
You're saying that every man is attracted to really young women?
That's not true.
I have so many men in my life who talk about being attracted to women of different ages and races and sizes.
What's the purpose of sex?
Men wanting to get for pleasure and reproduction?
No, no, no, no.
It's for the reason biology would make it pleasurable and a pleasure-seeking activity is because it leads to what?
Well, you're talking to somebody.
For instance, let's say every woman had a thorn bush in her vagina.
Do you think that men would be more or less likely to have sex with them?
They'll have sex with anything.
Can you answer my question?
Every woman on planet Earth had a thorn bush in their vagina, and it would cut a man's penis to ribbons.
Men would have to be aware of that.
They would not with anything.
Let me request.
Like, they would give it a shot.
Stop talking so I can ask the question.
Would men be more or less likely to have sex with them?
Less likely.
Likely.
Less.
Okay, great.
So why?
Because it's not as pleasurable.
Makes total sense to me.
So this infers to me then that the reason this is a pleasure-seeking activity is because it leads to reproductive ends, thus the human species continuing, the primary edict of evolution, right?
So if that's the case, then men are supposed to be attracted to youthful-looking women, aren't they?
Well, that's not really true in my age.
Without enterprise without the sisterhood.
No, I mean, I just, it feels like you're just like spewing off like, you know, like statistics on stuff.
And it's like, yeah.
Can you give me a counter argument?
Youthful women make man penis hard.
Therefore, men want to have sex with youthful women because that leads to reproduction.
Can you give me a counter argument for that?
Yeah, the ones that have had hysterectomies and vasectomies, like they still want sex and it doesn't reproduce anything.
Man, that argument is.
Like, men will fetishize anything.
It's not just youth.
Hang on, hang on.
Let me respond to your argument.
That makes less sense than her argument.
Do you think through all of human history, men had x-ray vision and could tell if you had a uterus or not?
No, of course not.
So what they did was they ascertained fertility based around what?
Youthful appearance, perky boobies, right?
Voluptuous light.
I agree with that.
Youthful appearances.
So that's the whole point, right?
But I'm still saying at different age brackets, it changes.
And they're still as horny as they were when they were younger.
I agree with that.
Yeah, and if those horny men could select for youthful women, wouldn't they?
Well, wouldn't youth, I mean, women, if we're talking about sex, go after younger men because they're better than them.
Because younger men have better quality semen and able to reproduce more, so they're more attracted to them.
Right.
Makes sense, right?
Why not?
Yeah, but how could it be creepy to say then?
I think older men are attracted to younger women when that's a basic biological thought.
Of course they are.
It makes total sense.
Yeah.
I can't wait for it to hear it.
Go ahead.
Yeah, you're talking about something very instinctively and savage, like we are animals or something, and actually we are humans.
We are, yeah, but we are civilized and we have emotions and what does that have to do with what you're attracted to?
Yeah, I know, but we need to separate things.
One thing is what you want to have sex because of the species and you want to reproduce yourself and everything.
And that is very instinctively and savage, which animals have.
But we are humans and we have emotions and we love people and we are very sensitive.
So it's not only about how age, how like we are younger.
That argument falls flat too.
And here's why.
Yes, it's true.
You can develop deep emotional connections with people, but usually you're attracted to them first.
Usually, when you're dating, you're attracted to those people.
If you're not attracted to them, you're never going to date, thus never having an emotional connection.
Yeah?
I understand.
Hang on.
So if you're going for what you're attracted to, right?
Most men are going to be attracted towards youthful looking women.
Most.
Would you like the statistics on this?
There's more statistical data to back up men being attracted to youthful women than almost any other type of data set I could point to.
I disagree totally.
Disagree based on what?
I can't wait to hear that.
I think if you like someone, it happened to me many times that I really liked someone and I thought he was so hot and he's so good in bed and everything.
But after talking to him like one hour or two, that disappeared completely.
So I was attached.
I realized what I really like and what I'm attached to somebody to pick as a partner or I don't know, like company, the mind.
Like, have you heard about being attracted to the mind or to the way of thinking that the other person is not only physical, everything?
You're holding a self-contradictory position.
There's so many times there's guys who I think they're hot and I fuck them and then find out later that I like to do that.
No, I didn't say that.
No, I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
I say I like someone and I feel like someone.
What good in bed mean?
What does good in bed mean?
I fell attracted to, but after I realized what is really attracted is the way how they think.
I can test this really quick.
Yeah, I got it.
I got it.
So here, let me ask you a question.
Okay.
You have a selection between two different men.
Okay.
One man is 56 and makes the exact same amount of money as a man who's 26 and their personality is about equal.
The 26 year old though, much more attractive than the 56 year old.
Who would you select for?
50.
All my boyfriends are 50 something.
Why?
My age.
For experience.
56 year old.
Hang on, hang on.
If they had the same exact traits and made the exact same money, why would you go for the 50-year-old?
I feel more loved by people that have more experience in relationships.
So I think if 55 or somebody old will be better for me because I feel like I'm very mature and I like to have very conversations and talk about life and future and everything.
Yeah, but in the hypothetical, the 26-year-old has the exact same traits as the 56-year-old.
But you're saying the 56 year old?
Exact.
Meaning he has the exact same emotional maturity, long walks on the beach, whatever those emotional needs are.
Tell me then why it would be that you would select for the less attractive mate.
Why?
Well, most of the time I felt bored with people that are younger than me at the end.
So I don't find nothing in common with people that is younger.
So all my friends have my age or they are older.
They have the exact same traits, 100%.
100%.
They're the same intelligence, make the same amount of money.
They give you the same emotional attention.
They have the same exact traits.
Give me a single reason why you would select for the less attractive one.
And you're less likely to be a widow if they're younger than you.
That makes no sense.
Why would you select for the less attractive one if all the traits were equalized?
That makes no sense.
I think that if you want to make this about age, they should be both good looking.
But you're saying one's ugly, one's this completely dumb.
I want to test this out, though, really quick with you.
How tall was your last boyfriend?
How tall?
How tall?
Height?
Like 5'9?
Well, you guys use centimeters in Argentina, right?
Yeah, I'm from Argentina.
Okay.
What about you?
Your boyfriend, how tall was he?
Yeah, 5'9.
5'9?
You're in a relationship.
How tall is your boyfriend?
5'7.
Damn, what the fuck?
6'5.
Into the mic, into the mic.
You gotta speak into the mic.
6'5.
What about you?
6'2.
Okay.
Your current guy you're seeing, how tall is he?
6'2.
6'2?
My current boyfriend's 6'3.
6'3?
I think 5'9.
5'9.
Okay, so we got a little bit of mixed bags here, but it's interesting to me that here on the panel, we've got a cross-section of different women here, and like three or four of them, you guys are dating men who are in the top three percentile of height, 6'2, 6'3, etc.
So it's like y'all say, you say, for example, well, you know, we've grown past just caring about looks and other things matter, but like women care about height.
A man's height has nothing to do with his character or how good of a person he'll be in a relationship, really anything.
But women seem to care quite a bit about height.
So that's always interesting to me.
It does affect some things, like the relationships among other men in their social status in a sense.
Yeah, sure.
I don't think that's a good idea.
Like they say that, like, for every inch taller that you are, like, the more likely you are to be CEO or something stupid.
Yes, I agree that being tall as a man confers upon it certain social benefits, just like pretty privilege, for example.
Agree, there's like a high privilege.
So I'm just saying that that can impact your, like, the way you, like, little man syndrome versus, you know, like a big dude that's just like really chill, you know?
So I think that it can impact the way that you function.
Yeah, I wouldn't even dispute that, but this idea that what she's talking about is, oh, but, you know, we've, we've evolved past all these things, but you would agree that there are short men who have those same traits as the tall men, the confidence, they're really successful.
They could be just as capable of protecting you even better.
Like a 5'9 MMA fighter is going to be able to protect you better than a 6'2 lanky guy.
But a lot of women have this evolutionary biological.
You can't even really articulate why.
It's just a thing inside.
She confirms it.
Doesn't she confirm it by saying it's because even inside a pack hierarchy of men that taller men are treated differently than shorter men.
So thus giving a preference to that, which means social status, which means better for mating and reproduction.
Like you're making, isn't she making that point for you in a way?
Is she?
I think she is.
Yeah, I think you're making his point for him, right?
Like when it comes to, so everything, the biological edict for everything is to reproduce or it dies off, right?
So that's the overriding drive of humanity is this edict.
So you wonder why sex is so popular?
It's because sex is associated with one function, which is reproduction.
So men and women, well, they really like having sex.
Both of them really enjoy it an awful lot.
It's a very pleasurable activity, and it's made biologically to be as pleasurable as possible to ensure reproduction.
That's what it's trying to ensure.
That the species continues, right?
This is like the primary edict of all things which are alive.
So if that's the case, why would men select for non-youthful women?
May I ask you something?
Yeah.
Like, how old are you and how old is your wife?
I'm 65 and she's 70.
She's 70?
Okay.
So you're not attracted to your wife?
What would that have to do with anyone?
Do you understand?
You've been saying the whole time.
You've been saying the whole time.
He's not 65, by the way.
Oh, I believe it.
So how old is your wife?
Well, I mean, how old are you, really?
I'm 18.
I mean, everyone always told me that I look older, but I am 18.
I'm almost 18.
I'll tell you what, I'll be honest about my age when you are.
Okay, well, okay.
All right.
So, like, what?
I mean, you came out of high school and you were able to like pay for the boob job and all the plastic surgery yourself and this and that.
Like, come on.
I just got a little boob son.
No, I'm not.
I literally can show you my ID if you want.
You have it with you?
I'm not that.
I have it on my own.
Right, I'll check it.
Yeah, I'll check it.
You want to step up?
I'll check it right now.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, check it.
Sure.
Excuse me.
I have my passport and my ID.
Two forms of ID are acceptable.
I will accept the two forms of ID.
The two forms of ID will be accepted.
So guys, TTS Stream Labs has been really weird.
It's kind of funky.
So I'm going to switch.
Guys, we're doing everything on YouTube today.
We're going to do everything on YouTube from here on out.
I'm just going to say it's going to be, we'll do super chats $99 and up for Reed.
And you can't really do TTS with it.
So Super Chat, $99 up for Reed.
Streamlabs is busted.
So we're just going to do that.
Let me see if I can do that.
Oh, I have to go.
I have to go back there, eh?
Hold on, boys.
Here, while that's going on, am I. You have it?
Yeah.
Okay, I'm coming back.
All right, boys, pray for me.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Tell us your story.
Which one?
Which one?
Give us a juicy one.
So we're talking about that, the height thing.
I think it's really who approaches you because I'm thinking the dude that said he was beautiful was probably an inch shorter than me.
You know, and I'm thinking, you know what?
You've got a great eyesight.
So I think I like you.
You know, the problem was I knew with him because he was so forceful of saying, oh, you're beautiful.
You're this.
And it's like, nobody does that.
A guy that likes you doesn't do that.
And sure enough, the guy was married.
I was furious.
And I posted it on my Facebook.
I'm going, why are they all married?
And all the guys are going, because married men are horny too.
I'm going, you're all dirtbags.
Wait, so how old are you?
Me?
You?
Me.
Yeah.
So, okay, fine.
You guys call me.
I'm 19.
Oh, she's 2005.
I should have asked her.
100% right, and you fucking lied like you've been doing most of the night.
And I've been catching you in them all night.
Listen.
Well, I'm like, I've been in the middle of the morning.
I've been at the inline social media.
I've been at this a long, long time.
I know when people are bullshitting me.
I know when they're bullshitting.
Well, I'm 19.
I'm sorry.
You're a fucking liar.
You're a fucking liar.
Sorry.
How dare you?
I'm sorry.
How dare you get away with it?
Lie to me.
How dare you very upset.
Called out.
You know what?
Here, you have a pun.
We're going to give you a punishment.
We're going to give you a punishment for your dastardly and evil lie.
You got to take the bunny ears off.
Okay, fine.
And you have to wear this for the next 10 minutes.
All right, put that on.
And you got to spin the little thing on the top, okay?
All right, put it on.
Oh, my God.
All right, now spin the little helicopter on the top.
I like this.
Oh, and you have to take off your little glove things, too.
I'll spin it forward.
Thank you.
See, we lay down the law here at the whatever podcast.
If you lie on our show, you have to wear the helicopter hat.
Ryan, Ryan, closer to 20 or closer to 18.
She's like 19 in 10 months or something like that.
So she's almost 20.
So almost 20.
So almost 20.
She's almost 20.
And isn't it, and let me ask you this.
Just be honest with me, right?
Isn't it the case that the reason you fipped about your age is because you think that it'll sell more tickets to yourself?
My manager is the one that put 18 in my bio, so I was just going along.
Your manager is going to.
Yeah, he's going to kill me.
He's going to kill you.
Spin the helicopter.
Maybe he'll redeem you.
I can't even find the helicopter.
Spin it.
Somebody, can you help?
Can you help her out?
Get it spinning.
But now that we're being honest with each other, right?
I'll tell you my real age.
I'm 41, right?
My wife is three years older than me.
The thing is, is like even if it is the case, though, that generally speaking, for me, I don't have a high attraction level for women who are in their 20s or 30s or whatever, that is still not reflective of the case for most men.
I've also successfully reproduced multiple times.
I want different things out of life.
But when it comes to attraction with baseline attraction, it makes complete sense to me why it would be that men across all age groups are attracted to youthful looking women because the thing which would drive attraction would be reproduction.
Makes complete sense.
I agree with you.
I also think it's interesting that as soon as you meet someone within like two seconds, you actually already have your opinions based off of them, like in a blink of an eye.
And so the way you look and your appearance is really important to people, especially men because they're more visual than women.
Oh, there it is.
Okay, I guess it is working.net donated $999.
Pop champagne.
Thank you, brother.
Big W for Andrew catching chair two in the mind.
Champagne for everyone who's of age.
And she has to entry that Google.
And hang on, hang on.
The truth shall set you free.
Now, you're not old enough to drink this champagne yet, but we will have a drink on your behalf.
Okay.
Yes.
Can somebody get the ball for us?
Well, let's go.
I know.
Yeah.
Wild.
It's about time.
About time.
And if any, you know, we do have Crystal bottles, if anybody else wants to.
One Ethereum.
One Ethereum.
So apparently, maybe the credit card works on Streamlabs, but PayPal's not working.
I have no idea what's going on.
It's been three weeks.
Streamlabs just been totally scuffed.
No, I'll open it.
I'll open it.
Wait, what do you?
No, let me do it.
Let me do it.
Wait, let me do everything.
Which one is it?
Okay, yeah, yeah, let me do it.
While we're doing, while I'm waiting on that, yo, Ogle, guys, W's in the chat for Ogle here.
W's on the chat for Ogle.
He is a legend and a scholar.
And hold on.
He's a brave and a decent man.
He's a pioneer.
That's true.
I'm going to send in.
Here, let me let these come through.
Ogle Lundus called Glue.net donated $200.
Just testing Streamlabs again.
Also, Chair 7's reality is subjective comment is spewing postmodernist drivel.
Sociology degree, by the way.
Wasting my time.
Pop them bottles.
Oh.
It's almost there.
What type of sociology did you get a degree in?
My emphasis is in gender and sexuality.
Basket weavers.
That's why I do hair now.
Oh, Lord, cosmetologist.
Yep.
Thank you, Glocktavius.
Thank you, Ogle.
Wait, you're.
It was what?
Your emphasis in what?
Gender and sexuality.
I thought you said degenerate sexuality.
I was like, what?
I mean, same thing, actually.
Same thing.
Basically, the same thing.
I will admit that it's a useless degree, pretty much.
You guys got me on that.
All right, who wants champagne?
Champagne?
You're too young.
Champagne, champagne, champagne.
No, thank you.
So, one, two, three, four, five.
Okay.
All right, Ogle.
Appreciate it.
We have, can I have you read this?
Go ahead and read it.
Perfect panel for this queue.
One sediment told her they don't care if she goes out almost nude.
Another sedman told her they prefer older women.
Why do you assume that saying something makes it true?
Anybody respond?
Yo, Inquisitor Zeal, thank you, man.
Anybody want to weigh in on that?
Yeah, I mean, I didn't say that it wasn't for her.
Oh, for me.
Okay.
Here you go.
Yeah, I wasn't saying that my man doesn't care.
I'm saying there's men out there who don't care.
My man does, in fact, care.
So, incorrect.
Keep it going up.
There's going to be one for her.
Okay.
While he's boring, just to inquire about this.
Do you think that if your man didn't care, right, would that make you feel a certain way?
Would that make you feel less valued?
My man likes how I dress.
And like, yeah, I understand that.
Hang on, hang on.
Let me finish the combo, though, with her.
And then I promise we'll get back over to that, okay?
I feel like, yeah, if he didn't care about anything I did, like the way I dressed, the way I carry myself, yeah, I'd feel like, like, damn, do you care about me at all?
There would, that thought would cross my mind for sure.
So, like, a little bit of controlling is okay then.
Yeah, I mean, I do want my man to lead and do the whole thing, you know what I'm saying?
A little bit controlling, right?
A little bit.
I want my man to have boundaries.
So it's like, I'm the controlling.
Is having a boundary controlling, though?
Like, we all have boundaries.
Listen, okay, so I'll give you like a big olive branch here.
I don't think so.
I think that having boundaries is not the same as being controlling.
But I think that they're often conflated as being the same thing.
Yeah, I think he was very controlling because he had boundaries about how he wanted his woman to dress.
I think that it's a completely fair boundary to have.
But my question: what I'm really driving at is, don't you kind of want him to care?
Don't you kind of want him to be like, ah, no, nobody gets to see this but me.
Nobody really gets to bask in this but me.
This is mine.
It's not for anybody else.
And you all can go fuck yourself.
Like, isn't you kind of like want that a little bit?
Yeah.
Where's your fucking manners?
Hold on.
Okay, first.
These people are crazy.
Okay, they can't wait for the cheers.
Cheers to Ogle.
I didn't think that's a good question.
Cheers to Ogle, Sally.
I got the shot here.
Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers.
Thank you.
Oh, my God.
Thank you.
So you kind of appreciate it.
You kind of want him to be like that, right?
Yeah, just again, the way you communicate that.
Yeah, yeah.
So, so, wouldn't it be like probably the most masculine thing then to tell your woman, don't go out dressed like that.
You're not to be shared.
Man's not to be ogled.
Hang on, hang on.
You're not to be gawked at.
You're not for them.
You're for me.
Isn't that kind of like the most masculine thing a man could ever say to a woman?
I don't know if it's the most masculine thing, but again, when I go out there, it's up there, though.
Is it at least up there?
Is it at least a very masculine thing to say?
I think it's a controlling thing to say.
Yeah, I know.
Let her answer.
Yeah, I don't think it's the most masculine thing to say.
I think there's so many other things that prove and show your masculinity.
I don't think you telling me, I don't want you wearing that is the most masculine thing you can say.
I think it's not masculine.
Even though, well, I'm sorry, just in the context of that.
I'm not saying it's the most masculine thing a man could ever do.
It's like it's not on par with, I don't know, running into a burning plane, saving 50 fucking women in distress or some shit like that.
Whatever that is.
I'm just saying, in the context of this, is there really anything more masculine than him saying you're not to be shared?
I think a girl can say that too, though.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think, well, hang on.
I think so.
That's fair.
That's fair if a woman says, hey, I don't want you to flirt.
I don't want you to be around women.
I don't want them ogling you.
You're you're you know, uh, I don't want to share.
I think that that's completely fair to you.
My um, personally, like my relationship.
Wait, sorry, you're still under punishment.
In order to be freed from punishment, you need to read uh the first 10 pages of Green Eggs and Ham by Dr. Seuss.
Go ahead.
Oh my, try to be quick though, okay?
Okay, read it into the mic.
Okay, um, I am Sam.
I am Sam.
I am Sam.
Sam.
Um, that's Sam I am.
That's Sam I am.
I do not like that Sam I am.
Do you like green eggs and ham?
I'm not really a good reader.
I do not like them, Sam I am.
I do not like green eggs and ham.
More?
One more.
One more page.
Wait, do you like them here or there?
Okay, great.
Thank you.
Give it back.
Can I say what I was going to say now?
Yeah, sure.
But take the hat off and but don't put your ears back on.
Okay, well, it's Easter.
Oh, that's explains it.
By the way, happy Easter to the entire panel for those of you who are happy Easter.
Happy Easter.
But even for those of you who are filthy heathens and are not, still happy Easter to you as well.
Oh, I was going to say, you keep saying, like, I'm being shared because I wear revealing clothes, but I'm very, very loyal to my man.
And I definitely do not sleep with anyone other than my man, so I don't think I'm being shared.
And I've never ever had sex with any guy that I'm not in a relationship with.
Yeah, I understand.
And I understand the argument.
And I'll go ahead and steel man it.
That just means I'm going to give you the argument back that you just gave me.
That's okay.
Which is like, look, maybe I dress promiscuously and things like this, especially for work, but I am not out there cheating on a person I'm in a relationship with, right?
I'm not actually taking the peen and the G or anything like that, right?
I'm being loyal.
But here's the thing, right?
That really doesn't contend with the ultimate argument which is being made here, which is that if a man really values you, he doesn't want to share any of you with fucking anybody.
He just wants you all to himself.
You're his, right?
Ultimately, that's what they want.
If they found that, this is what Ali is saying anyway.
If I find that piece of gold, it's for me and me alone.
And I'm only for him.
So if they, so hang on.
So if the man says to you, if your boyfriend told you, in other words, to stop dressing promiscuously, yes or no, would you?
Yeah, I would.
And if he didn't want me to wear this like today on the podcast, I wouldn't.
I'm very like sentimental.
What do you think if a man like that really values you?
I think he loves me very much and he's watching right now and he approved of my outfit I showed him before and he liked it.
What kind of man who values you would let you show all of the goods to other people?
I don't think I'm showing for the purposes of monetary collection.
Imagine if I said I value my wife as I prostituted her out to other people.
Do you think I really value her?
I mean, I think he values me and I think he really likes me.
He doesn't give a flying fuck about you and he can't because a man who would allow his woman to be prostituted to other men can't value them.
They don't even understand what value means.
That's not value.
Okay, I guess that's just unlovable then.
That's okay.
See, you know what's funny?
That's actually objectification.
That's actually you're really mean.
Like I'm literally going to be aware of that.
I'm always accused of being this insane right-wing conservative who thinks women are objects.
It's so funny because the opposite is true.
It's like here, you're actually an object, literally utilized for the purpose of monetary gain from a man who doesn't give a fuck about sharing you with other men.
How is that a man?
Yeah, I think that's the point.
I think he could value her for sure, but he's just, he's not a man.
Like, he's just lacking those, you know, traditional man values.
But he could unethical, scumbaggery, piece of shit, piece of human garbage.
You don't share your fucking woman.
You don't share her.
Also, I just want to say, I don't think you're unlovable.
I just want to say that.
I think that's something better.
No, because she said people from doing stupid things.
Oh, no, because she said, let them hear the effects of it.
No, that's fine, but I don't want her to think.
She's getting money somehow in this arrangement.
I guarantee it.
Somehow, your man's getting money off of the back of your prostitution.
Guarantee it.
No, he doesn't.
Guarantee it.
Yeah, he benefits somehow.
He has a way to do that.
There's no way he goes, go expose your titties to thousands of men on the internet and he cares about you.
Yeah, fucking right.
By the way, I'll tell you what.
If I'm wrong right now, if I'm wrong right this second, the women on the panel, raise your hand if I am incorrect and her man values her while she exposes herself to the men of the internet.
Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong.
Again, I think he could.
Fucking crickets.
Hang on.
Wait, no, what's the point?
Play the crickets, Brian.
Play the crickets.
Fucking crickets.
Just saying.
Again, I think he could value her, but like you said, he doesn't have manly values in general.
I need to wrap up on this.
So all right.
You have a final point, though, or all good.
That's it.
That was a final point.
The reason not a single person raised their hand on this panel is because I'm absolutely 1,000% correct.
Go ahead.
Oh, I misunderstood the question, but I think he values her.
They have the same values.
Like you, like they're in alignment.
Yeah, like he shows his body on the bottom of the body.
We got other people to get to, though.
So if your man, lady, said, go ahead and show your boobs to thousands of men on the internet so that you can make more money, you think he values you?
I just want to yes or no.
Me?
That'd be great.
Yeah.
But I don't do her line of work.
Can you answer my question?
You'll change her.
Do you consider that a man who values you?
When you focus on the money.
In my morals with the person that I am dating, it would not be in alignment.
But she is in alignment with the man that she's, they have, they have the same values.
So that's why he values her.
We're different.
It's good for thee, but not for me.
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Yes.
Yes.
Individual.
You know what you're doing?
You're what we like to call a hypocrite.
It's hypocritical.
100% hypocritical.
You know it's wrong.
You've admitted it's wrong.
You admitted if it happened to you, you would consider it devaluing.
But me and her are two different people in two different lines of work.
Yeah, whatever.
I mean, if it was all OnlyFans Girls sitting here, it would be really different.
Okay, whatever.
I mean, look, I'm not here to like petition on her behalf, right?
It's fucking stupid for a woman to do this on behalf of a man.
She's as much at fault as him.
But don't blow smoke up my ass and tell me that a man cares about a woman who exposes herself to half the internet and then says, I green light this outfit when you go on the whatever podcast.
Yeah, fucking right.
Tell me he cares about her.
Go ahead, lie to me.
That's like Britney Spears' dad loving her.
I mean, he messed her up so bad that the woman's in her 40s, a lost soul on the internet dancing for whomever.
She looks like she's insane.
And it's like her family made all that money off of her.
How tragic.
She is insane.
She's been through a lot.
Yeah.
Poor girl.
And it's shameful.
It was her family that did it.
Yeah, well, this isn't a poor girl in question here.
This wasn't a man victimizing her.
This woman's making her own decision.
Strong, empowered woman.
And you guys can't even really say that she's doing anything wrong because it's just subjective, right?
It's just subjective.
She seems happy.
It's good for them.
It's good for them, even though it's not good for me.
It's like you guys enable this behavior while at the same time decrying it as victimization.
It's like there's no victims here, right?
You're doing myself.
It's just like it's pure stupidity.
And I can't fathom why people would be this fucking stupid and pretend, like Muhammad Ali said, right?
If I have a piece of gold, I ain't sharing it.
But if the piece of gold wants to be shared, is it really a piece of gold?
That's the question.
Well, I have a question.
How long do you want to do OnlyFans?
I don't really care to have the OnlyFans bad conversation.
I don't find it particularly interesting at all, but answer the question.
I definitely don't want to do OnlyFans forever.
And I really want to change when I'm older and become not showing my body off.
I'm just having fun when I'm young.
And I will change.
And I want to get married and have kids.
Why do people set a target date?
Like, just stop.
You can just stop.
All right, we have some super chats.
Lucas, he says, I'm utterly amazed with these women today that when presented with a deluge of unassailable and fully settled scientific research relating to human hardwiring and impulses spanning over 200,000 years, the response is simply nope.
I just disagree.
That is from Lucas, but he continues.
Bottom line here, whether you like it or not, when researched men, on average, when pulled, even as young as 13 years old through 90 years old, are most attracted to a 23-year-old on average, give or take, doesn't mean he can get the 23-year-old, but he still prefers her.
It's from Lucas about men having a preference for younger women.
Thank you for that.
Lucas, Kat, thank you for the super chat.
Leave Brittany alone.
And then Scherber, thank you for the super chat.
We'll leave that up for just a moment.
Appreciate the super chats, guys.
So apparently, through you can try to keep, we still have Streamlabs up.
Some are still trickling through, but apparently Streamlabs is having some issues.
You can try it.
If it doesn't work, head on over to YouTube.
Just submit it as a super chat.
Or you can also do it through Venmo Cash App.
That is whatever pod on both.
And then Coax, thank you for the $10 on Cash App.
Jake, thank you for the $10 on Cash App.
And Daniel Weston, thank you for the $10 on Cash App.
Appreciate it, guys.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And let me see where we're at here.
Okay, Super Chat, $100 for Reads, TTS.
You can try it through Stream LARBs, Stream Labs, but some people are reporting Stream Labs isn't working.
So just go ahead and say.
How much champagne have you had, Brian?
What's that?
How much champagne have you got?
Oh, I'm a lightweight.
I'm a lightweight.
So I had.
I don't know.
I probably like this much was in the cup.
I don't know if people can see that, but I just drank from the bottle.
Thank you guys.
Appreciate it.
Okay.
Already slurring my words here.
Oh, we didn't finish up on the ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to 10.
So going around the table, sort of related to this, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
Better looking in 10 years' time, starting with you.
You're 24, better looking in 10 years' time at 34.
I'm Asian, so I mean, I'm Asian, so I think I'll probably.
I did get better looking as I got older, I noticed.
Okay.
20 years' time, 44.
20 years ago, I'll be 44.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Damn, 44.
But better looking 34 or 24?
Oh, I don't know.
Pretty, I think right now I'm pretty happy.
Right now, okay.
You're 20.
I'm 19.
Well, 19, almost 20.
Okay, you're 19.
Better looking in 10 years' time at 29?
Yes.
I think I'll be prettier at 29 now.
Than now?
Okay.
Let's do 20 years' time.
Better looking at 39 than 19.
For you.
Oh, me?
Yeah.
20 in 20 years?
20 years, so 39.
No, probably not.
Okay.
You're 30, better looking in 10 years' time at 40?
I think I'll look just as good in 10 and not as good in 20.
Okay, so better at 40 than now at 30, but not at 50 versus now at 30.
And then if we go back 10 years, you're 30 now.
Were you better looking at 20 or better looking now?
I'm better looking now.
Better looking now.
Okay.
So better looking at 40.
Okay.
You're 36, better looking in 10 years' time at 46.
Depends on how rich I am.
Let's just assume you don't have access to plastic surgery.
Well, I fundamentally believe that younger is better looking.
So now.
Yeah, so I'm deteriorating after this.
And then going back 10 years' time, 26 versus 36, better looking now or at 26?
Probably 26, yeah.
Okay.
And then you are 62?
I'm 62, so 20 years, I'll be happy if I'm even here.
But I do know in my life experience that I was wearing glasses at like 53 and ended up getting laser surgery.
So I actually look better at 62 than I did at 52.
Take some MILF.
So 62 versus 72, better looking at 72 or 62?
I'll be happy if I'm here.
No, I understand, yeah, but just looks-wise.
I just know that when I got the laser surgery, I looked 100 times better than I did.
I don't believe in facelifts, so I can already tell my skin's hagging and it's like, whatever.
It's life.
I'd rather have joy.
And, you know, I'm not into Botox and that crap.
I don't know.
Yeah, but that's fine, but better looking in 10 years' time at 72.
I don't know.
I'm surprised that I look better than I did at 53.
Okay, so here, we'll go backwards then.
You're 62 now.
Were you better looking at 52 or now at 62?
At 62, I'm better looking than I was.
Let's go back 20 years, 42 versus 62, better looking.
At 42, I looked fabulous.
I was dynamite.
Dynamite, okay.
And then I assume, like, going further back, 32, 22, better looking then?
In my early 20s, I was dynamite.
In 28, like 32, I had some rough years, probably with the stuff going on in my life.
When's the peak, I guess?
When did you feel was like your peak, looks-wise?
42, I looked.
I was off the charts at 42.
Gangbusters at 42.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Nope.
What about you?
You are 32, better looking in 10 years' time at 42.
I might look better in 10 years.
Yeah.
I'm about to say yes.
20 years' time, 52?
Probably not, no.
Okay.
And you're 32, were you better looking at 22 versus now at 32?
No, for sure.
Better looking now.
Yeah, I'm better looking now.
All right.
And then you're 36, better looking in 10 years' time at 46?
I think I'll look better.
Okay, 20 years' time, 56 versus 36?
Probably not.
Okay.
And then going back 10 years, 26 versus 36, better.
I look better now than I did at 26.
Better at 36 versus 26.
Okay.
And then you're 36, better looking in 10 years' time at 46?
I think I'll be much better in 10 years because I'm already much better now than I was in my 20s.
So I think it's going to be the same.
And then 20 years' time, 56 versus 36?
I will be awesome.
Will you be better looking?
Yeah, I think so.
Then 36.
Okay.
30 years' time, 66 versus 36.
Better looking?
Maybe 50-50, but not that better than I am right now.
But would you say about the same?
No, no, no.
I'm better right now.
Oh, better right now.
Yeah, okay.
In my 60s, I don't know.
Sure.
And then 36, going back 10 years, 36 versus 26, better looking now or 26?
Yeah, I told you I'm better now that I was in my 20s.
So I'm better now.
Better looking now.
Yeah.
Okay.
If we were to ask men this question, do you think there would be a difference?
Like, you guys think you're better looking 10, 20, 30 years, whatever.
Do you think it changes if we were to ask men?
No, I think so.
I don't think it would change.
So you think men would agree?
Like, you are better looking now at 36?
And you'll be, wait, question.
Do you think you'll be better looking at 46 versus when you were 26?
Well, I assume so.
Yeah, I will be better in my 46.
Yeah.
And no plastic surgery.
No botanist.
No, I never did.
Nothing, anything.
And you think you're going to look better in 20 years?
Yeah.
How?
How's that possible?
Because if you wanted to, you can.
If you're doing like plastic surgery.
You just do a sport and you eat healthy and you can do it.
There is like an inevitable process called aging.
I know.
That thing.
Yeah.
Aging.
Yeah, I know, but I think it depends off your spirit and your attitude.
So, yeah, I feel now younger than I was in my 20s.
So to me, this is not feeling.
This is off physical looks.
Yeah, we're talking about that.
Okay.
Oh, no, okay, no.
Because I feel like more confident and in my body.
Oh, okay.
I was talking about that.
Oh, sorry.
You just had that energy for it.
You're like, I missed you.
That's good.
It was good.
Keep it up.
Keep it going.
But I'm just saying, like, they're talking about objective truth.
There is obviously a subjective component to every type of thing.
But there is an objective truth that entropy exists, that we're all decaying, we're all aging, and there's not really, and like the standard of beauty objectively tends to be not wrinkly people, not old selves.
Like, you know what I mean?
And so that's why I asked.
I was like, well, if you can get me a facelift and a bunch of stuff.
Sure.
You know what?
We actually have aged.
We've used the power of AI to age advance all of you.
Oh, really?
We're going to do a segment where we do a comparison.
So do you have that ready to go?
I'm so excited.
Okay.
Oh, wow.
Is that one of 50?
Yeah, how many years is it?
Is that a good idea?
Okay.
Oh, my goodness.
Wait, so is it 10 and 20?
What is the age difference?
What's that 10?
Well, look, it's not exact, but I'm just going to be able to do it.
God damn.
That's like 90.
Yeah, that still looks great.
That's like 90.
That's like 60 or 70.
Okay, you still have to be a little bit more.
The middle is like 70.
You know, it's kind of weird.
What's up?
In the middle, you look more Asian, but then on the far right, you look more white.
The eyes.
It's the eyes.
The eyes.
It's the eyes.
The eyes.
Always look eyes.
It's always the eyes, you know.
Next.
Wait, can you?
Oh, my God.
Oh, no.
Oh, my God.
It's like 90 years 10 years from now.
It's definitely not.
Definitely not.
We're going to pull it back up.
This is a crazy algorithm you got going on.
The middle one is not 29 years old.
That's like 70.
That's 200 years old.
That's the progression.
That's the progression.
They were just mad at you for lying, so they made yours worse.
Yeah.
Can you make it a control mouse wheel make it just a bit bigger?
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, that's good.
The last one is like 90, 80.
I mean, okay, ready?
100.
That's like 100.
Oh, my God.
That's kind of nice.
That's not bad.
Nice.
Lord have mercy.
That's not bad.
It's kind of nice.
Yeah, I like that by the way.
No way.
Oh, my God.
Come on.
The second one is like 60.
Oh, God.
No.
No, it's like 60.
Second one, that's no.
I've seen people in 50s.
They don't look like she's not going to be like that in her.
That's like you should see my mom.
I was going to say her mom is a little bit more.
Is her mom single?
My mom is single.
She's fine as fuck.
Her mom is a baddie, for sure.
She's fine as hell.
Yeah.
Oh, you want to see a picture?
Oh, no.
I'll just, can you set us up?
Oh, oh, oh, you want your mom?
Oh.
Anyways, okay, next.
Let's see me.
Wait, hold on.
Let me switch it here.
Ready?
Yeah.
Oh, that's like 90.
I swear.
People look at that.
Like 60.
Hold on, let me pull it up.
You look like you bake the best cookies.
This shit's weird.
Oh, my God.
Getting the blondes dirty.
Oh, my God.
All right.
Switch it.
Oh, no.
Is it ready?
All right.
You ready?
Wait, I don't know how this one's going to turn out.
I can't wait.
I can't wait.
Am I alive?
Oh, my God.
I'm alive.
What the fuck?
I'm alive.
It just made you a little bit more.
Oh, my God.
I feel like you would be the sweetest woman ever.
Is there a difference between number two and number three?
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a huge difference.
Extra ankles.
Okay.
All right.
Moving on over.
All right.
Black gnome cracked.
Twitch.
Yeah, you're already excited.
I'm scared.
Oh, God.
Oh, Keila, great.
I dare.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You ready?
Here it is again.
Oh, no.
Nice.
Beautiful.
Oh, you like tinkling.
Okay.
You look like you work at the cafeteria in the high school.
Right?
Anybody else get that?
Okay.
Oh, my God.
Next.
We have?
Yes.
That's not bad.
That's not bad.
Very nice.
Ted, my grandma.
No, the last one is.
Don't hate it.
No, it's not bad.
Not bad at all.
Next.
Good for you.
Oh, no.
What a change.
I look like my mom.
Oh.
Yeah, he's my mom.
Now I know.
It's actually cute, though.
I think they kind of did you dirty in the first photo, though.
I didn't know.
Like, you have.
Oh, yeah.
They gave you gray hair.
Yeah.
The first photo is already old.
I don't say is that.
What the fuck?
They're like the same.
The photos are the same picture.
Oh.
All right.
There it is.
Wait, did I not do you?
That was pretty rough.
Yeah, what's yours?
Oh, they're doing it.
They're dude.
Just wait for it.
Just wait for it.
Oh.
There he is.
Next.
Okay.
All right.
You used an old photo here.
Oh, wait.
Put me back.
Here.
Put me back.
Let me see mine again.
Put it back.
By the way, guys, we're doing super chats, mostly on YouTube.
If it works on Streamlabs, streamlabs.com slash whatever, you can do it.
Okay, all right.
I used an old ass photo.
All right.
i'll accept it i'll accept it i'll accept it uh look like uh andrew let's see andrew Boom.
That looks so real.
Yeah, this looks really real.
That's because he's 65.
He's already 65.
No, that's recent.
It was like from a year ago or something.
Okay, now we have another segment we're going to do where we've gender swapped all of you.
So, oh my gosh.
So, you guys are going to tell us if you would date the male version of you.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Smash or pass.
That's what we were doing?
Basically, yes.
Got you.
All right.
You got it?
Oh, yeah.
Now, can you put a do uh put put a do left corner sources?
I'm not gonna lie with the facial hair.
Sources hit left corner, put the eyeball and then hide the other one.
So scroll down.
Right corner, hide that one?
Yeah, we'll do that.
And make a zoom it out just a tad.
Yeah, perfect.
Yep.
Okay, that's good.
So would you date the male version of you?
No.
You wouldn't?
Maybe the one with the mustache.
But like a second.
Wait, hide that red thing.
So you're.
Wait, wait, wait.
Okay, so hold on.
Don't, don't.
Here, follow my lead, okay?
On the blue, on the blue on the outside of OBS, you got to click, okay?
Yeah, just click.
No, the blue.
That's the black just below there.
Click there.
Click.
Nope.
The dark blue.
Click.
A little higher.
There you go.
Okay, that's how you clear that.
All right.
Next.
Yikes.
Whoever.
Pass.
Yeah, for sure.
You look like XQC.
I don't know if you know who that is.
You don't know XQC?
He's a Twitch streamer or is a streamer?
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
So you wouldn't take the male version of you?
The middle one is not that bad, but still, no.
You prefer the middle over the hands?
I like black hair on guys.
Oh, okay.
All right.
What if he had black hair?
Would you date him?
Yeah, and like tattoos.
Yeah.
Why not?
Okay.
All right.
Next.
Would you date?
Hard pass.
I don't date Asian guys.
Oh.
Why is that?
Huh?
What?
You don't date Asian guys?
Why is that?
I just don't find them attractive.
I find them emotionally unavailable.
I just, I don't really connect emotionally from experience.
We got three Asian women at the table, right?
Asian, Asian, half Asian?
I'm Mexican.
Oops.
Yeah.
You know, whatever.
Sometimes the Latina can be confusing.
Are you Filipina?
Vietnamese.
Vietnamese?
And you're part Chinese.
Okay.
Is there like, what about you're Vietnamese?
Like, there's no like Kevin wins that you're just.
You can ask her.
She's seen every dude I've dated.
Never an Asian guy.
It's funny.
I'm the one who ended up dating an Asian guy.
Yeah.
How was that?
Are you currently dating an Asian guy?
Yeah, it's careful.
Oh, okay.
So, like, if you were to date an Asian guy, though, what?
Like, if I had to pick probably a Filipino guy.
Filipino.
I like simps.
I'm a simpy girl.
You like simps.
I'm simp queen.
I'm like this.
But so, Filipino guys, they're more simpy or yeah.
Oh, okay.
I find that they can be.
Okay, good.
All right.
Do you date Asian guys?
Not really, because I don't really like my own race sometimes.
They're very rude.
They're very rude.
I mean, traditionally, like...
Rude.
Yeah, Chinese people are very rude.
Oh.
And yeah, unless they're like a good person, I would, but I do.
Never lie a lot to say face like, as far as social shame goes, they will lie out.
Yeah, they're very like, they're rude and I had bad experiences with just Chinese adults in general.
They're just not the best.
Like mainland China um, or yeah mainland, and then like it kind of like rubs on to you, like like going further, you just have impressions like i'd rather not like.
My first boyfriend was a Filipino, but then okay, so you did date with like an Asian, but it's not like my race.
So, but I wouldn't.
He's Asian but he's not Chinese either.
Okay, was he was full Filipino, correct?
And then have you dated any Asian guys at all?
I dated one Filipino, one Filipino guy, but he doesn't even look Filipino.
He looks Mexican yeah, like I don't know black, kind of, with like some European dark skin, like full-on beard, sure it?
Yeah, it didn't look Filipino at all.
Wait curious, what uh?
So what race is your current boyfriend?
He is Mexican, Mexican.
What about you current is?
He's half Colombian, half Mexican.
And do you have a type like?
You prefer Latino guys, black guys?
I don't have a type.
So you've dated black guys, Latino guys, white guys buff skinny fat short, tall.
You name it conservative.
What do you mean by define what's?
What's your trump voter?
Um I, I have dated someone, like we were talking, but not my boyfriend.
All right yeah uh okay so uh oh wait, we were doing this.
Oh, he's kind of this honestly yeah Jake, would you, would you me?
Or what I mean, what you mean, what you mean mate, watch out.
Oh, keep it there.
Though he looks so sweet.
That's a good looking, looking beard looking good looking guy, you know?
Good smile, all right, good for you if you ever transition, I guess.
All right.
Next oh, my god, would you date the male version of you?
I think it looks like you know he looks sweet.
You would date him.
No, but he looks sweet, he's sweet, but whatever.
Um yeah, I don't know.
Oh, facial hair makes a difference.
Yeah, he looks like he'd be like five too.
He looks pretty happy.
You look sweetie pod.
Would you date him?
Um yeah sure, i'll date.
Okay yeah, give it a shot.
All right yeah, here we go, here we go.
Oh, crack up, let me look at this dude, hold on, let me look at this dude.
I've been looking for you my whole life.
So would you date the male version of you?
Furthest one.
Yeah, I think he's hot.
Okay, look at him, doesn't he look like just a little cutie pie?
Wholesome little boy yeah, wholesome bb.
Would you date Jack Black?
Hilarious.
Jack Black.
You give me Jack Black as a joke.
Me?
Yeah.
Jack Black's kind of fun, isn't he?
Are you really in the school of rock?
No.
No, but in the school of rock, man, I loved him in that.
Oh, okay.
All right, next.
All right.
Oh, shit.
What good, Daddy?
What good daddy?
Daddy.
That's like Prince or something.
Wait.
No, not Prince.
No, this is Prince.
That was Prince.
I'd for sure smashed.
That is my favorite guy.
He is cute.
He looks cute.
Look, he looks like my brother.
Damn, you bought his head.
Does your brother have that hairstyle?
Is that hair?
That's like a, what is it?
They call it a pompador or something.
He grew his hair out more.
It looks too much like my brother.
Like, that's weird.
I cannot.
Bestie, you find his buggy.
I could never.
Y'all can have him.
Y'all can have him.
Y'all got it.
Oh, God.
Whoops.
Okay.
Next.
Would you date the male version of you?
No.
Oh, shit.
I feel like that's not even God.
He's like, he's not that bad, honestly.
He looks like my brother.
That's why I would not date him.
I think he's handsome.
He is handsome.
Yeah.
He looks like an artist, too.
Yeah.
He looks like, yeah, very accomplished artist.
Yeah.
Very accomplished.
Sophisticated artist.
He's artiste.
Looks like does modern art or something.
The guy in the middle is absolutely not.
He's a beard.
The guy in the middle is very good.
You got to get the facial hair.
Yeah.
Okay.
Next.
She's excited.
I'm sexy.
I think I like it so much.
I like it so much.
I think it's hot.
Yeah.
He's really hot.
I like it.
Both.
Last two months.
Yeah, honestly.
All right.
All right, here we go.
You ready, Felicity?
All right.
What's that?
Oh, there's not one for.
Oh, okay.
She likes it.
She caught a break here.
Saved by the bell.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Oh, wow.
Maybe the one on the left, but definitely not on the table.
Let's put a tan on her.
Control mouse wheel up.
All right.
The one on the left is really bad.
She's like good.
Like bad in the middle.
She's a baddie.
Yeah, she's a daddy.
Any bisexual women at the table?
No?
No, but she's really pretty.
All right.
And then we have next.
That's Andrew.
No way.
Wow.
Who is that?
Oh, that's young Andrew.
That's young.
Young Andrew.
What a handsome fella that young Andrew was.
And still is.
He's still handsome.
You know, he looks more distinguished now.
And just as handsome.
And with a beard.
He's 65.
And he has.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Andrew, would you date the female version of you if you were single?
Okay, pull up real quick the female version of me and I'll give you the commentary real quick.
Sure.
All right.
Better be funny as fuck.
Okay, so, well, of course it's going to be funny because I'm not a woman.
So let's start with young Andrew on the far left.
Okay.
Obviously, the female version of young Andrew is way better looking than any chick on this panel.
But then when we move to 41-year-old Andrew, I feel like I could do better than that.
I feel like I could do better than that at this stage in my life, honestly.
We love the confidence.
That's great you feel that way.
I don't just feel that way, but I mean, it is factually true.
Like, did you see the picture of young Andrew?
You wouldn't have a chance to see that.
I think there's parts that are segregated here.
We'll take a chat pole.
I don't think he's having a chance in hell.
How old are you then?
How old are you?
Oh, he's beautiful.
He's beautiful.
Angled chin.
You wouldn't have a prayer, Coke harder, lady.
You could never.
You couldn't.
You know, I want to ask the 10.
I want to ask the 10 at the table, what do you rate young Andrew on a scale of one to 10?
Do you think 10?
He's a babe.
Oh, shit, Andrew.
Look at that.
You found your looks match here.
For sure.
Yeah.
Okay, good talk.
All right.
We got to get through.
There's a lot to get through, so I'm going to try to get through it quick.
So we did this.
You know what?
We're going to get into the questionnaire.
Gonna get into the questionnaire.
Let's see.
Do you have any disagreements with the show or hosts to which Lauren says Brian should eat pussy?
That's cool.
I've heard you say on other ones that you don't.
So I was like, that's fucked up.
Why is that fucked up?
Because.
Because what?
It's awesome.
What's awesome?
Cunnalingness.
Is that what they call it?
Oral sex.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I just prefer not to do it.
It's like you can't do it.
Just a sexual boundary.
Too dirty.
No, I don't.
It's not like I'm grossed out by vaginas or anything.
Just sexual boundary.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can you like go more in depth about that?
Like, why did you have like a bad experience?
Yeah, sure.
I'll give you a couple reasons.
So one, they've actually, there's some studies on this.
So men who go down on women are at a greater risk of throat cancer, throw than neck cancers.
Really?
Yeah.
Because of HPV, because a lot of women, high, high, high body counts.
And so there was a famous actor.
His name is evading me.
It doesn't really matter.
Michael Douglas, I think.
He had throat cancer.
So yes, going down on women increases your chance quite substantially of getting throat cancer.
If you doubt me, you can Google the research.
And does the same applies when you go a woman's sucking dick?
I'm sure that it increases women's risks, but I think that the risks are more pronounced in men.
And I think it's just because I do think it's the case that certain STDs, just because of physiology and anatomy, women are more prone if they are exposed to an STD of contracting it.
It's just kind of the reality of that.
Also, the thing is, definitely, at least my prescriptive advice for men, you shouldn't be doing that unless, well, you just shouldn't do it, but you shouldn't be doing that unless you know 100% certainty that that girl's loyal to you and you're in a relationship with her.
If you're going down on a girl and it's like a one-night stand or like it's a casual hookup and you guys aren't exclusive, there's just, again, physiological differences between men and women.
So if a girl goes, excuse me, if a guy goes down on a woman, y'all could still have another man's seed inside of you and he's going down and that's disgusting.
Whereas like as a man, like if we can have sex, shower and all your juices, they're gone from us.
But if a guy's blasting inside you, that shit lingers for a little bit.
That shit lingers for a minute.
It could be leaking out hours, even days.
It can leak out a day or two later.
So you won't eat out your wife, your like teacher or wife, like period.
Sexual boundary.
Look, I'm a fan of labia.
I only date women with ginormous, giant labia.
I'm looking for the one.
Is that like a joke?
Guinness World Record holder.
I need the Guinness World Record holder of labia for me to be satisfied, huh?
That's your fetish?
I don't think it's a fetish.
I mean, it's like women who like men with big peens.
That's what is labia like.
The lips, the pussy lips.
Oh.
The bigger, the better.
I'm looking for Guinness World Record status, fucking labia.
I will not settle for less.
But then you're not going to eat.
You're not going to eat her out, but you like it.
You just want to say what it is.
He wants to look at.
He wants to.
Yes, I want to look at it.
And then for sex, there's benefits.
Okay.
The main reason because labia is going to have other options.
You have a lot of partners.
Well, it's a couple things.
So that's one of the reasons.
The throat cancer risk.
Number two, there's, look, even if you're dating a girl, she says, oh, I'm not seeing anybody else, blah, blah, blah.
Whatever it is, she could be fucking somebody else.
I'm not saying all women move like this, but a lot of women.
But what about the wife thing, though?
She did ask about the wife thing.
Would you do that with your wife?
No.
But, and I don't want to.
You're not even with your wife?
What if she's not married to cancer from the wife?
What about her butt mouth?
Still.
On that.
But hold on.
Wait, what was the, so the question.
Oh, okay.
So the throat cancer.
Wait, wait.
The throat cancer, the ick factor.
You can say bubbles and you don't like.
We'll get to that.
The throat cancer, the, what's it called?
Uh.
Oh, the ick factor of like, okay, do a lot of young, do a lot of women move in a shady kind of way by sleeping with multiple men at the same time?
Yes, absolutely.
So I don't want to be in a position where I'm dealing with a girl and I'm going to go like go down on a girl and she's got another dude's seat in her.
Can't do it.
So that's just boom.
Even in a relationship, she could be cheating, whatever it is.
And then third, and third, I just, neck problems, don't enjoy it.
You know, it kind of hurts my neck.
And just generally.
Are you like seeing women who are only like that?
Or like you like that just like are hooking up with people or do you know them enough and then you hook up?
Even in a relationship, it's not my preference.
Yeah.
Hasn't really been an issue.
So there's definitely women out there that don't like it or they're whatever.
Okay, so you were getting to the.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So hold on really quick.
Let me just shout this person.
Dr. Brian, medical doctor.
Thank you.
That's Natalia, by the way.
Thank you for the gifted 20 memberships.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Natalia, you're a legend.
W's in the chat for her.
You know what, Andrew?
Guys, okay.
Andrew, earmuffs.
So you were talking about eating ass.
So first off, no, for me.
But here's the thing, guys.
Here's what you got to know.
A lot of you girls out here be eating ass.
You're letting dudes eat your ass.
Here's the crazy thing.
It's kind of the reverse.
So apparently, it's the reverse.
So instead of the fear being, if you go down on somebody, there's a risk of you getting like throat cancer.
If you go down on somebody and eat ass, you could, and you're the receiving individual in that situation.
That can give you colorectal or rectal cancer, anal cancer.
Because the mouth, the bacteria in the mouth is, you're introducing that into the anus.
The anus, okay?
You can look this up.
No, I believe you.
Telling you, but look it up.
It's dangerous to receive.
Okay.
Tossing salad.
If you get your salad tossed, trust me, look this shit up.
Okay, but the microplastics are going to get you before that does.
You know, I don't know if anything.
There's so many things.
Anything's going to get you before it's eating shit.
I'm not sure about that, but the thing is, is like Brian makes a good point here, right?
It's like, don't eat shit.
That's probably like a terrible fucking idea.
It's probably a terrible idea to eat shit, literally.
But Brian, back to this.
You're married and your wife is like, it's our anniversary, honey.
It's our anniversary, Brian.
And we've been married for five great years and I've given you a wonderful life and two children, which is just, you know, which is just like my vagina.
The fuck?
Are you saying no to her, Brian?
Are you saying no to her, Brian?
Wait, Andrew, if I answer this, you have to answer it too.
Yes, I'm saying no.
Yes.
He doesn't trust his life.
You know, I'll tell you what, Andrew.
Tell you what.
This is what I'm willing to do.
When I'm at the stage of life where I'm already fucked up, like I've already got, I'm dying.
I'm like a, I'm on fucking hospice.
I'll eat some pussy in hospice.
As a final goodbye to my loving and cherished wife, literally the doctor's like, okay.
He calls her up.
He's like, I don't think he's got a few hours.
You got to be here.
He's pumping fucking morphine into me.
I will go down on a woman then.
That's it.
I'm already going to die, but fucking...
Poor girls.
She's going to be like, babe, the gardener's been up here.
She's like, you're in her 30s or 40s, and I'm going to do it.
No.
In hospice.
Yes, hospice.
I'm eating some pussy.
Fine, I'll eat some pussy.
I'll also maybe try some drugs.
I'm about to die anyways.
Maybe try some drugs.
I'll try some drugs too.
Fuck it.
I've never done any drugs, really.
So, yeah, fuck it.
Why not?
Let's try some, I don't know, cocaine or something.
But then I take you out.
No, heroin at that age.
I'll give the shot.
But no, Andrew, the thing is with the tossing salad thing, it's not.
Well, okay, yeah, eating shit.
That's no, that's not it.
Wait, no.
No, no, no.
But it's not, it's not even the bad thing isn't for the person doing the act.
It's the person receiving the.
That's what gives the mouth has all this nasty bacteria, bruv.
And you're introducing it into the anus, and then people be getting anal cancer on it.
I don't think you need to convince people to not eat your.
I want to see your browser history.
The fuck?
No, I do think, modern degenerate society, that perhaps there are people who just absolutely demand to eat your shit.
I think that it is very prudent for men to not allow women to literally eat their shit.
I think that that's probably pretty prudent.
Like, I don't think there's going to be a lot of objection here, you know?
Yeah.
Gentlemen, if you want to live and you don't want anal cancer, you can't let a girl toss her salad, you sickos.
Okay.
Good talk.
Fucking psychopaths.
Kat, thank you for the super chat.
Do we have, oh my goodness.
Oh, speaking of which guy, Super Chat's 99.
Where were we?
I forgot.
Oh, is that fair?
Is that reasonable?
Look, if here's what's weird, though, I feel like a lot of girls will shame a guy if he doesn't go down on women.
They're like, what the fuck?
This guy.
Is he gay?
What?
Is he gay?
I wouldn't think he's gay.
It's just like, if you're expecting head, like, how come you're not going to, you know, return the favor?
It must be really good and bad.
If they're going to eat a second, wait a second.
That's not really fair, right?
I mean, it's just foreplay.
Hang on, there's perhaps all sorts of sexual preferences that you might have that your partner doesn't.
And that doesn't make your partner bad because they have those sexual preferences you do not.
And perhaps, perhaps, like an example, maybe there's a position you don't really like that your partner does.
Deny them that doesn't mean that you're doing something bad by saying, I only want to receive head and not give it back.
In fact, in the reverse, I actually hear this complaint more from men than I do women.
Like, oh, I'll go down on her, but this chick will not suck it, you know, no matter what.
She just refuses to give head.
Like, that's the more common complaint.
Right?
That's a breakup.
You can't be in the face.
That's like if they're in a relationship where like, you can't be in a situation like that as a guy.
That's ridiculous.
Yeah.
The reverse is okay, though.
So, anyways, where were we?
It's not a double standard.
It's just a standard.
I agree.
I agree.
I think that is a double standard.
What's the double standard?
Like, he's saying that girls need to get away from the paper.
Let me give you an example.
Let's say that you were a woman who just loved to lick a man's armpit.
Like, that was your favorite thing.
I know how absurd it's all.
But only when, only when he just came out of the gym and it was like, it smelled like dirty socks.
That was the only time you wanted to lick his armpit and you just demanded it.
You're like, honey, this is, this is the thing.
Licking your armpit just does it for me.
Are you saying that somehow, like, you know, he needs to reciprocate and lick your armpit?
No, but it's.
No, no, no.
Okay, I don't know where you get this stuff from armpit.
No, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying you can have something that you're way into sexually.
Your partner isn't, right?
And that doesn't mean there's an exact like match, like oral sex, oral sex.
Okay, so what about this, though?
Yeah, armpit lick, armpit lick.
Wait, so what about somehow that's okay, but the other isn't, right?
It's like, just evaluate it through a logical prism.
Are they really being hypocritical by saying, I don't like this act doing it to you, but I like the act when it's done to me?
That's not a hypocrisy.
It's not hypocrisy, but it still is a double standard, I would say.
No, it's not really a double standard.
It's just a single standard.
It's saying, I like this act done to me, but do not like doing this act to you.
That's just a standard, right?
What's the double standard?
Okay, I'll agree with you on that.
At that point, it's just a bad thing.
What about this?
What about this?
So the guy doesn't want to give oral sex.
It's just his sexual boundary.
But the girl, she, let's say she likes to give it.
But because he won't give it to her, she's like, you know what?
I like to give it.
You want it, but I'm not going to give it now.
Do you think that that's fair?
No.
Like she's pulling back from doing that.
So he doesn't want to do it, and it's a tit for tat.
So it's basically like, okay, you won't do this, then I won't do that, even though I have no boundaries whatsoever when it comes to giving oral sex.
You won't give me oral sex, so I won't give you oral sex, even though you want it, but you won't give it to me.
So I think she's dissatisfied.
That needs to be like a bigger conversation.
You're not going to come otherwise.
They shouldn't be together at that point then, in my opinion, sexually.
Like, that's like some resentment that you're taking a bench.
Okay, now we got to drop the big hammer.
We got to drop the big hammer on Brian.
Okay.
All right.
All else equal, Brian.
Perfect woman adores you.
Fat wallet.
Loves you to death.
Does everything that you can ever want.
And gorgeous.
And gorgeous.
Hang on.
But Brian, she comes to you one night and she's like, listen, I S the P, right?
And the P in the G, no problem.
Whatever you want, I'll do.
But just, you know, this one thing, I need you to L the P.
Okay?
And I'm just totally sexually dissatisfied if you don't.
Fake news.
Brian.
Brian.
Are you going to L the P?
Are you going to do it?
She's the perfect.
She's perfect.
Oh, she's perfect.
She's the diamond.
Fat wallet, 10.
No HPV.
He's a nice check.
No throat cancer.
Is there throat cancer or no throat cancer?
Bro, she's clean.
She's a gym broad.
She's at the gym dating.
You have a vaccine.
Wait, so it looks like the throat cancer.
Is it just once?
I got to do it once or, you know.
No, no, no.
She wanted, she, you know, she's not asking for his regular.
She S the P, you know, like once a week.
Perfect, though.
Perfect.
Perfection.
Oh, my God.
You know, look, the perfect woman is a rare diamond.
Yeah, fuck it.
Why not?
Fuck it.
Why not?
Yay.
But you got to understand.
Good job.
Look, I'm willing to make sacrifices for the perfect woman.
Standard, though, for Brian.
Like, the perfect woman for Brian, well, it isn't any of you sitting at the table.
Let's put it that way.
But the perfect woman.
Okay, I think that that's a big concession, Brian.
Big concession.
Look, the perfect woman.
Yeah, you got to do it for the perfect woman.
Can you describe your perfect woman?
What do you mean?
Like, tell me about her.
Tell me about her.
Yeah, what would your perfect woman be like?
Hmm, that's difficult.
And look like.
It's difficult.
But you're already committing to looking her pee and you don't even know what she looks like.
Now, hold on.
Perfect woman for like there's different perfect women.
Like there's the this is gonna sound terrible, but there's like just pure sexual desire, perfect woman.
And then there's like the woman that you want to have kids with.
Give us both.
Because pure sexual desire, that's like she's short.
Have kids with she's tall and well-built.
You know, warrior children type shit.
So it's like I'm in this fucked up place where it's like, is she fucking 4'11?
But I kind of want a 6'3 woman.
You know?
Yeah, it's all about eugenics.
Get it.
Gonna give me fucking warrior sons, you know?
Yeah, I totally get that.
Give that then.
Well, I'm six foot one.
I'm six foot one, but like if I can get with like a six three, six four woman who's just still beautiful, right?
Yeah, but six, like sexually, don't get me wrong, still exciting proposition.
Very exciting proposition still.
But peak sexual experience would be this chick's like 4'10.
4'10.
Short?
That's what I'm saying.
Short, short, short women.
Petite.
And I would say, this is, oh my God, is this going to get me in trouble?
Was it?
Washing now, huh?
Huh?
You got to finish it now.
You're in it now.
Washing?
Oh, my God.
Wait, I'm not going to say it.
Never mind.
No, no, no.
You got to finish now.
Nope.
You can't edge your own audience, Brian.
I'm not doing that.
I'm not saying what I'm about to say.
I'm not saying, oh, boy.
I came all the way from Houston to hear 4'10.
Keep going.
No shame, just go ahead.
No, I feel like I'm it.
I can't say it.
I thought, like, during the previous, it was like, let's be open, let's talk, let's have a great time.
Are you just saying that?
I'm not gonna say it.
Why?
That just makes it weird.
You should say it.
I can't say it.
If you're not gonna say it, at least tell us why.
I can't say it.
Okay.
Boo.
Can you make a sound like crazy?
I will ask a hypothetical question to the panel.
You answer it.
Hold on.
And you guys can make your inferences.
Is it wrong to prefer to have children with somebody of your own race?
No.
Is it wrong?
Okay, that's it.
That was my question.
Is it wrong?
No.
Is that the big reveal?
Wait, wait.
Wait a second.
This is coming together for me.
Tell me if I'm crazy here, Brian.
But are you saying it, and you can correct this if I'm wrong?
Are you saying that you would prefer a white woman who has Asian characteristics, including her being tiny?
Is that what you're saying?
No.
Oh, well, then I guess you better clarify.
No, I don't know what you're talking about.
So you want a tiny white girl.
Damn it.
No.
These mine tricks are wasted on me.
This is ridiculous.
I'm just saying, asking, I'm not saying, I'm asking, is it like, let's say, you know, how about this?
A guy, a black guy, he likes to have sex with white women, but he's like, you know what?
I want my children to be black.
So I'm more sexually attracted to white women.
But when it comes to having children, I want them to be black.
So I'm going to have children with a black woman.
You know what I mean?
I didn't know what you mean.
So do you think that's what I mean?
Wait, wait, wait, no, no, no.
I don't know what you.
What?
What do you mean, what?
You know what I'm saying?
What?
Say it.
Huh?
Eugenics.
How's that eugenics?
How's it not?
You're looking at the best.
Perfect world.
Brian's harem.
His main squeeze is a white chick, but all the babies are coming from black women.
No, bro.
That was an example.
That wasn't my preference.
I was giving you an example.
Let me get you caught up with a speed answer.
I feel like he's like, I would want to feed with an Asian, but I want to have babies with a white person.
Is that what you're saying?
I didn't say that.
You said that.
I know.
I'm asking if that's what you said.
I didn't say that.
You said that.
I didn't say that.
But do you agree with that?
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but you're agreeing.
That's kind of, sort of.
Yeah.
That is eugenics, by the way.
How's that eugenic?
Is that eugenics?
Yes, it is.
Because you're trying to decide the genes of your offspring to be certain.
Eugenics is like, isn't that like on a society level?
Not necessarily.
Individual mating choices.
Like dogs, breeding dogs is eugenics.
Yeah, but that's external breeding.
Exactly.
Dogs who are being bred specifically to breed out certain genes is different than mating preference selection.
Because if the dogs were left to breed out their own genes, they would breed with whatever female was available to breed with as many times as possible, right?
Okay.
So you want your offsprings to be white.
He did not say that or denied it.
I didn't say that.
Yeah.
I didn't say that.
I think he wants to change the topic.
Yeah, but I mean, honestly, that's no different than when I hear kind of black liberation people say that they want their children to be black.
Why is that problematic?
It's not, but when he doesn't want to talk about it, it's like, is it something that is a problem?
Well, he doesn't want to talk about it because he might think it's pop-up.
Huge amount of judgment, which is set down on especially white people or Anglicans, if you want to put it that way, or Anglo people who say, I want my children to look like me.
They get an inordinate amount of judgment for saying that, even though there's nothing wrong with saying that.
If Japanese people say, I want my children to be Japanese, nobody would say anything about it.
If Scandinavian people say, I want my children to be Scandinavian, nobody will say anything about it.
But suddenly, if you're in America and you say, hey, I want my kids to look like me, you're public enemy number one.
I think that's silly.
Also, white people are kind of a minority in the world.
Stop.
Yeah, they are.
Well, they are global.
They are globally.
White people, if you compare them to the different races, so the Asians, blacks, I guess they, I don't know what the categorization is.
Native, is that the categorization?
So that would encompass like certain South American countries, I guess.
White people are a minority.
Do you have the statistics on that?
I'm just curious.
I mean, we could Google here.
Google world.
But like, aren't Mexicans considered white, technically?
Well, if they're of Spanish, if they're of Spanish ancestry, but they're considered mestizos.
Like, I'm half Mexican.
She's Mexican over here.
But I'm saying, like, when it they're not black, they're not, like, they're white.
Like, they're categorized.
Do you think that's because they're not mainly like from other people?
Yes, they consider them to be a race called British.
No, they're saying now that it's not, which is kind of weird because I feel like when we were in like high school, it was like check a box and it was like Latino, Hispanic.
And now that box has kind of disappeared and it says white on a lot of things.
Well, actually, you make a powerful point.
I don't consider myself to be white.
Yeah, it is true that in order to fluff how many of the white population there is in the U.S., that the census has re-evaluated to try to include more people who definitely are not what you would traditionally consider, quote, white, into that category box to expand how many whites there are.
That is true.
Like, I'm not going to deny that.
But that's what's going on, right?
That's actually what is going on is they're trying to fluff the numbers.
Race breakdown.
I looked it up recently.
Anyways, doesn't matter.
That's the stats.
Minority.
Whites are a minority in this world.
We're a minority.
Look, and ultimately, look, if I end up...
If I...
You didn't want to say the other stuff, but you say that white are minority.
Are they really a minority anymore?
Yes, white people.
White people are a global minority.
Yes.
There's more black people.
There's more Asian people.
Yeah, there's a boatload of Asian people.
He wants to preserve an endangered species.
Good for you.
That's beautiful.
It is beautiful.
And look, if I meet a fantastic person of any race and we get along, yeah, we can have kids.
But isn't it, but here's the thing.
Isn't it silly anyway when you think about it?
When you look at all of the dating polls that come up, most people tend to date within their racial demographic.
That seems to be who they're the most attracted to.
So I don't even know why this is a controversial take anyway.
Is it controversial?
I feel like nobody seems to continue.
Yeah, I don't think it's controversial.
Support you.
I definitely do not date within my race.
That's for sure.
Well, what is your race?
Middle Eastern race.
I'm Vietnamese.
Vietnamese and what?
That's it.
That's it.
100%.
Vietnamese.
I'm serious.
Nothing else.
Do you speak Vietnamese?
Not at all.
I don't speak a lick of it.
I speak English only.
English only.
America.
America.
Okay, good talk.
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Best one of your life.
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Thank you, Ivor Mectin.
Appreciate it.
That was thoughtful and thought-provoking.
I appreciate it.
Okay, good talk.
What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
Go ahead.
Like $45,500.
Okay, what about you?
A million per year?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
I know I wrote $250,000, but that's a lie.
I'd say like $100,000.
So $250K is what I'd prefer, but the lowest I'd go is $100.
I think you wrote minimum $200,000.
Oh, nice.
Okay.
Nice.
So $1 million for you, $200,000 for you.
You wrote what?
I said enough to do cool stuff.
Quality life.
Okay.
Yeah, quality.
What about you?
What we would like it to be?
Into the mic.
What would we like it to be or the minimum?
The minimum.
So it's like, okay, here's the if I'm going to date a guy, settle down with him, like here's the minimum I'd want him to make.
It would be fabulous if he made half a million.
No, no, no.
What's the minimum?
So it's like, okay, would you date a guy who makes zero?
I want somebody established that brings something to the table.
Give me a number.
I want somebody that's retired.
Give me a number.
Give me a half.
Give me a number.
Give me that $5 million in the bank.
Okay, $5 million.
Wait, hold on.
$5 million is the minimum for you, lady.
I want him.
No, I want somebody that's already established.
So with the tire.
That's the lowest you'd go.
That he doesn't have to worry about an income coming in.
What in God's name are you bringing it to the table for a millionaire?
I have to do it.
How can I have money to bring to the table?
Hello?
I'm established.
What you got?
Established with what?
I don't want to announce on here whatever.
No, I don't have any kids.
No kids.
So you don't have any children?
No.
Right?
Yeah.
What have you established yourself with where you deserve a millionaire?
I own property.
I'm vested.
Do you have $5 million in retirement in savings?
No, I don't.
You don't really have a blankie on because you're so fucking cold.
Like, what are you bringing to the table here?
That's like a Jordan Peterson.
Look at you.
I'm established.
Get over yourself.
I own property in my early 20s.
Get over yourself, Andrew.
Who are you?
Who are you?
You're gonna.
You talking shit.
I'm 62 years old.
God bless you if you don't have something by that age.
At 62 fucking years old, you should be a little bit more emotionally mature to understand that there isn't a whole hell of a lot you bring to the table.
You're a bit overweight.
Hey, right?
You're a bit snarky.
I rebuke.
What the fuck are you bringing to the table?
Oh, it's just preferences, let's move on.
She built there to take you up on this offer, lady.
I rebuke.
I just went out with one.
Don't worry.
This is his favorite argument with people.
Now with a 401k million.
You're so mean.
That's not mean.
You're smoking rock.
What do I bring to the table?
My sparkly personality.
Disagrees with me.
What is this woman bringing in that's going to incentivize a millionaire?
You tell me, ladies.
There's a lot of people that are millionaires out there.
Millionaires are nothing.
If I was 65 millionaire, you're the first person I would.
Okay, so I have a question.
I would.
Because you have assets and everything like that.
What is the minimum?
Like, what do you want?
Well, that's what I'm just saying.
I want somebody that's established.
Okay.
I don't know what that means, but I'd like them to be retired, okay?
And I'd like to go travel with them.
I happen to have a lot of friends in this age bracket that I'm in that are doing that.
I don't want somebody that's working at Ralph's market because he's got nothing to bring to the table.
I would like them to have at least what I have.
I'm not asking for the millions.
That was the question.
What dare?
At least what you have.
Yeah, at least what I have.
That was the question.
Yeah, it'd be nice.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't want some guy thinking I'm going to support you.
You're bringing millions to the table?
What was that?
Are you bringing millions to the table?
I'm not going to announce it on this show.
Why?
Because it's nobody.
What's going to happen?
Is somebody going to come drain your assets who's a fucking kid?
Yeah, there's a lot.
There's a lot that are out there.
Yes, there are.
Come on, lady.
You ain't a multi-millionaire.
You ain't going to incentivize multi-millionaires to come in.
Come on.
Like, be honest with me.
Wait, how do you know she's not a multi-millionaire?
Do you want photos of the last dude I just went out with?
You're ridiculous.
I don't believe you.
You could just be.
I have photos.
I can show you.
He owns a corporation.
God bless you.
And you got a ring on your finger from this guy?
No, I didn't get a ring on.
I went out with him.
Yeah, you went out with a guy.
Yeah, millionaires date women and then they bone them.
They do it all the time.
Doesn't mean that you're bringing to the table the thing which would incentivize the millionaire to take you all around the world.
Well, funny, I've had that happen a few times.
Have you?
How dare you?
How dare you?
You have no standards.
You're pathetic.
I have no fucking standards.
I wish you were here.
You are pathetic.
You hate women.
You have a small mind.
You don't know men whatsoever and what men want.
There's plenty of older women that older men chase.
You're smoking rock.
You got brain damage.
No older man wants you.
Look at you.
You're a lump of shit.
You're a flabby.
How dare you?
How dare you?
I have photos.
I can show you.
Trump and ring.
That's right.
No ring because you are what you are.
Don't fucking lie to me.
I'm not lying to you.
I step away for one minute.
Nothing.
How dare you?
How fucking dare you?
What is real?
Look at yourself in the mirror.
You're overweight.
Hey.
So what?
Hey, be nice.
There's chubby chasers out there, loser.
There's chubby chasers out there.
You know what?
And I love chubby chasers.
I like strong men.
Somebody who's chubby, Andrew, I want you to apologize to the chubby people at the table.
You're overweight.
Drank turpentine and piss on a bunch of people.
Well, you're not my type either, David.
They're chubby chasers.
Hang on, I'll tell you.
They're chubby chasers, okay?
You're not my type either.
Ladies, relax.
Relax.
Oh, lay down.
Buckle it.
What do you add to this conversation?
Nothing, loser.
God.
Loser.
Wait, is this try?
Is it like this?
Let's try it.
This could go in your favor.
Is it like this or like this?
You will freak out if you saw the hot dude that I was with for the last four months.
You would have told me, bro.
The last four months.
You would freak out.
Balls deep.
Hottest guy you've ever seen.
You would freak out.
Hottest guy ever.
Oh, Andrew.
You would freak out, Andrew, if you saw the stud.
You would freak out if you saw the stud she was with.
Put some respect.
Put some fucking respect on your body.
That stud gave me multiple orgasms at 62 years old.
Can you believe it?
Andrew, you put some respect.
You got respect on that.
Put some respect on my book.
You probably can't even get your wife off.
Oh my God, Andrew, is that true?
You wish you were single, loser.
You wish you were single.
You wish you were single.
Bring her down.
Bring her down.
Bring her fucking dumb.
We're going to laugh at her.
Bring her.
We feel so bad for her that she settled for your ass.
I can't believe she did that.
She settled for your ass.
She came here, girl.
Pathetic.
I will repeat it on the walls to get out.
She's been summoned.
I'll bring her down.
Summon.
Bring her down.
Summon her.
Summon her.
I'm the nice one.
I'm the nice one.
You're the nice one.
You're evil.
You have no class.
No booth, dude.
You have no coup.
Well, here.
Let's look.
Does your head spin around?
Get ready.
Hold on, everyone.
Here it goes.
Oh, I hate women.
I hate women.
Stop spurning out, lady.
Let me just say my piece.
And then I'll bring the wife down and you can yell at her.
If I'm wrong, if I'm way out of line to the women on the panel, you tell me that this woman here, right, is going to incentivize multi-millionaires.
Look at her.
Have you looked at multi-millionaires?
Lie to me.
Lie to me.
Tell me I'm wrong.
I mean, keep me my phone.
Somebody use my phone now.
Andrew, if I could come to the defense of Holly.
She, oh, he's stepping away.
If I could come to the defense of Holly, I mean, I honestly think once Jeff Bezos is done with that Latina woman, you're next in line.
No, I don't.
I would never touch that dude with the 10-foot pole, but Mike Lindell, I did.
And I got photos, so get me the photos.
Hello, guys.
Where's my camera?
I got photos.
You had carnal knowledge with Mike Lindell.
I'm not telling you the intimate details.
I apologize.
That was too much.
I've got proof, and that's what you want.
I got proof.
You had sexual intercourse with I'm not telling you my personal life.
Okay, did you give him a BJ?
I'm not telling you.
Did he take you for a while?
I don't kiss and tell you.
Did he take you for?
I believe you.
You took my phone.
I believe you.
You don't.
Don't worry about it.
Somebody took my phone in that list.
Can somebody bring photos?
I've got photos.
I believe you.
No, I want to show photos.
You wanted her age?
I got photos.
No, let's make it good.
These guys are hot.
Hot men.
Oh, the loser left because he can't see.
He's coming back.
He's summoning the wife.
We're going to have to say sorry to his wife because she's in misery.
Here, let me get everybody's answers on this before we get into that.
So, bare minimum income.
100.
My phone.
Hold on.
We can't do the phones.
We can't do the phones.
So my bare minimum is $130K.
What about you?
$300.
$300,000.
$300,000 a year.
A year is the bare minimum.
How much do you make?
I make like $150,000.
So you need double.
Hang on, Brian.
What about you?
She didn't say she bagged.
She didn't say she bagged Mike Lindell, did she?
She did.
Hello guy.
She, the pillow guy, yes.
He bagged my pillow guy.
Hey, that's a get.
That's a come up.
Wait, we can't hear you, Andrew.
Give me my phone.
Oh, lady, I can't wait for you.
My wife's coming down.
She's hey, that's a big, like, that was a big W for her.
What about you?
Minimum.
Mike.
100,000.
Mike Lindell stick his dick in your mouth.
Hey, Andrew, put some, hey, be a little respectful.
Andrew, be a little respectful.
You have no coup.
Come on.
Come on, B, B, you have no coups.
Come on.
Andrew, be a little respectful.
Be a little respectful for Holly, okay?
You know, put a little respect on her name, okay?
Okay.
All right.
Sorry, I'm dying.
I'm dying to hear him.
Rachel's going to go up one side of this boulder and down the other from Mr. Jimmy.
Thank you for the Canadian.
100.
Okay.
Thank you, Kat.
Appreciate it.
We got to get.
Let me hide this.
One sec, guys.
Guys, Reed is $100.
Wait, so hold on.
Did you?
You said $40,000 to $50K.
You said $1 mil.
Yeah.
And you said $100,000.
No, you said $200,000.
Okay, that's my preferred, but like for minimum, I just didn't answer the question right.
Oh, minimum, $100,000.
You need some clariton or something?
That would be nice, actually.
Honestly, the fuck.
What did you say?
I said enough.
Which is what?
To have quality life.
Which is what?
Give us a number.
It depends on how much I'm making too, because it'd be combined if we're married.
Okay, I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I don't know, 100.
100,000.
Okay, and then you said, sorry.
130K.
130, and then 300 for you.
Here, we're going to do something called, oh, really quick.
Hold on.
Oh, my God.
300.
Sorry, my freaking pens shit.
Here, pull up that thing really quick just on the race thing because it came up.
All right, so here's the breakdown.
Oh, put this on the other side.
So you're going to do, here, sources.
Dropping.
Right corner, and then hide left corner.
People of the global majority, ori.
Isn't that offensive?
Oriental?
Okay, whatever.
Asian, 2.1 billion, Indian, 1.6 billion, black, 1.4 billion, Arab plus other.
So that includes non-white Hispanic, 1.1 billion, white, 1 billion, and dropping from this website.
So that's from there.
Maybe there's some variants or whatever.
And then the other thing, okay, so, oh, we got Rachel.
So really go ahead.
Hello.
Hi, Rachel.
Hi.
Hey, Brian.
Long time now.
Steve.
Glad to be back on.
Sorry, everybody.
I had some health issues I had to conquer, but I'm doing much better.
Good to see you.
Good to see you.
Glad to hear you're feeling better.
Take it away, Rachel.
Go ahead.
Well, I heard I was summoned by Large Marge over here.
She seems pretty upset about something.
So you guys want to let me know what the problem is?
Anybody?
Basically, she wants the minimum income of the significant other to be $5 million.
$5 million in retirement.
And then your hubby says A lot of things and well, he asked.
See, this is the thing.
He asked what she brought to the table, right?
Correct.
She didn't really have anything.
So he said, Well, you know, why would what makes you think you're going to bag a millionaire when millionaires can basically have their pick of anyone?
And she got really upset and, you know, threw some insults at him first.
And the thing about Andrew is if you do that, well, he's going to give it right back to you.
So the moral of the story is if you can't dish it out, you know, if you can't take it, don't dish it out, I guess.
But I mean, are we going to pretend it's not kind of delusional?
I mean, she just spent the whole beginning of the show telling us that she has never gotten proposed to.
She hasn't been able to get married.
I never said that.
You're lying.
You said you're married.
You're slain.
You're lying.
No, I wasn't.
You're ugly and you're lying.
It's oozing out of your pores.
Okay.
Well, did you not say that you have no courage?
And what you say means nothing.
Okay.
You started off nasty and vulgar.
No, I have not been married.
Have I been proposed to?
Yes, but it's really none of your business.
Didn't you tell?
Well, I didn't tell anybody anything.
Listen, Marge, you came on the podcast.
You're rude.
I'm no longer speaking to you.
You're ugly.
I'll speak to the rest of the panel.
She came on here to talk about her dating life, and she spent her whole intro explaining how she's only ever been able to get guys who wanted her to pay the bills and they were just losers and they were pieces of shit.
They had nothing going for them.
They didn't bring anything to the table.
They were lazy.
In my early 20s.
Yeah, these are the kind of men that you've been getting.
In my early 20s.
Okay, well, where's the millionaire asking to marry you?
That's what we're asking.
That's not an insult.
Most of us don't marry millionaires.
So it's delusional for you to think, like, oh, yeah, I just, I totally deserve that.
Like, why?
I went out with them for four months.
Well, first of all, I thought you weren't going to talk to me anymore, so that was a lie.
But I'm glad that you're willing to chat because it's not worth it.
You're a loser.
You have no coup.
A little bit of a reality check here.
It's a reality check time.
And I got some for the other, a few of the other ones, too, if they want reality checks.
But it's just very entitled to sit there as you are and say, I deserve this.
And when Andrew very correctly asked.
I said I wanted somebody established.
You obviously have no standards because you married that loser and you're probably begging to get out.
You think so?
Yeah, I do because you're on this show.
How pathetic.
That's the best you can do with your life.
This is, you're also on the show, ma'am.
I'm very happy.
I've been with Andrew a long time.
We are notorious.
Then why are you foaming at the mouth?
I'm not foaming at the mouth.
Ma'am, you are as red as your skirt.
I'm not the kind of person that you can sit here and do this gaslighting and tell me I'm the one who's angry.
You're the one who asked for me.
You wanted me to come.
I don't remember ever asking for you.
I couldn't believe that he was even married.
But now when I see what you look like, I understand.
It's pathetic.
Marge, nobody believes that you're going to sit here and tell me that I'm ugly, okay?
Again, with the gaslighting, nobody believes this.
You're projecting, okay?
You're upset, so you're saying I'm upset.
You're not blessed, you know, with the most good looks, so you're projecting that onto me.
You're upset, so you're saying I'm upset.
Listen, let's deal in reality here and just say, Andrew asked a fair question, which is when you say, I want someone established, I want him to travel the world with me.
I want him to bring something to the table.
What the hell?
I've already traveled the world.
I've already done all the above.
If I may.
Well, why can't I have what I have?
What's the problem with that?
I'll explain it to you, and this might help you.
You said he needs to bring something to the table.
Yes.
Andrews, and Andrew said, what do you bring to the table?
And you said, I am the table.
I am the table.
I don't know.
That's not saying I am the table.
I said, I'm established.
I said, I'm established.
Most people in their 60s are established.
We don't need to yell.
I have many friends that are established.
Why would a millionaire give a shit about that?
We're asking what you think.
Because most of my friends are millionaires.
Millionaires are not that Rhea billionaires?
I didn't say billionaires.
I said millionaires.
And there's a lot of people that I know that are millionaires.
So those standards aren't that off the charts.
Do you understand that you knowing millionaires has nothing to do with any of them wanting to marry you?
So what we're asking, once again, why would a millionaire want to marry you?
That's never really the question.
Because of my winning personality, they enjoy my company.
We happen to have things in common.
They like to share time with me.
How has that worked out for you so far?
How has that worked out so far?
I'm still single.
Yeah, I know.
And what's your point?
My point is, your standards are delusional.
You aren't understanding, like...
My standards are not delusional.
I'm having a good time.
Well, that's not what you said the whole first part of the poem.
I said in my early 20s.
Okay, when have you been because I owned property in my early 20s and it was difficult because no one at that time guys did not work.
They were living at home with their mom and dad.
I feel the millionaires being attracted right now as we speak.
Well, just because you can't get a millionaire and you're pathetic because you're with that loser.
Sorry, your standards are so low, but you're married.
Hallelujah.
The loser married you.
Like that's a victory.
Tell me why you think Andrew's a loser.
But listen to him speak.
I think he's hilarious.
And he married you.
He's one of the top entertainers on the internet.
Sure.
He's very fun to be around.
He's very entertaining.
Yeah, he is.
Okay, girl with your ass hanging out, sitting there shaking your head.
Don't start because you don't want any of this, I promise you.
If I have to sit here and listen to your baby routine for like any amount of time at all, I'm going to go nuclear because I've been having to listen to it all night and it's so irritating.
You don't talk like that.
Everything about you is fake and phony.
The tears are phony.
The tits are phony.
Put your ass away and stop with the smirk.
Okay, we already caught you lying.
You're full of shit.
You're just here to sell your ass.
So you can put the smirk away.
Now, March, back to this.
Get over yourself.
Like, this is a put-down session.
Stand up, Turner Bran.
Let's see your fat ass with the dimples in it and all your cellulite.
Let's see your saggy.
Look at this.
She can't even wear decent clothes.
She's so pathetic.
Get a new bra.
Get a facelip.
Use some Botox.
And get a better attitude.
Ugly troll.
Okay, that hurts my ears.
Let's not do that.
Yeah.
Let's not.
I'm just a.
Look, I've been on the show myself, and when I was asked to rate myself, I said I thought I was a five.
I think I'm average looking.
I'm at a healthy.
I said I was a five, you loser.
I said I was a five.
Okay, okay, okay.
I know my voice is.
Let's lower the volume a little bit.
Yeah, yeah.
You can say the same exact thing.
Just lower the volume.
So if I'm a five, do you think you're a five?
No, I'm a 10 compared to you.
Okay, there's more of that delusion we were talking about.
So I'm at a healthy weight.
I'm not overweight.
Yes, I'm in my sweats, but I was, it's, it's what?
You're scuzzy.
You foam at the mouth.
You're ugly.
You married a loser.
Get over it.
You're very dirty.
Just talking.
That's not fair.
Yeah, you're nasty.
You have no coup.
You're just a loser.
Just get off the screen.
You don't add anything to this conference.
All you do is put down, put down, put down, put down.
You're an asshole.
We be friends.
Come on.
Now I'm not an asshole.
I'm asking fair questions.
They are so mean to me.
Why?
She's jealous.
Wait, wait, hold on.
She's jealous.
Wait, something.
Oh my god, something is happening.
Asked for me.
I was upstairs doing dishes.
No, go, go.
If I asked for you, go away because you're ugly and I can't look at you.
Go away.
Guys, guys, let's stop the insults.
Both of you, just stop the insults.
Why don't you hear?
This is what I want.
Say something nice about each other.
One thing that's nice about each other.
Just.
I'm so glad you were so desperate.
You married your loser of a husband.
Husband.
There's no victory in marrying Mary.
Damn.
Come on.
Holly, come on.
Let's see your ring size.
Let's see how big of a diamond.
Oh, is that pathetic?
Is that he didn't even give you a ring?
How pathetic is that?
No, that's my ring.
This is my brain.
Oh, that's a little gold band.
You have a little gold band.
How charming.
Here, do you want to hold up your nails?
Brian, yeah, first of all, you don't have a ring at all.
But second of all, I love this ring because Andrew gave me this ring when neither of us had anything.
Well, you can buy me.
You still don't because he's blown away that I did.
That's not true.
Marge, if you knew how much Andrew made right now, you would cry.
So he could buy me any ring that I wanted now.
I don't want a new ring.
I want this ring.
Oh, you're trying to save face.
You're trying to save face.
Hush your fat hog mouth.
Hey, guys, be nice.
Come on.
Look at that.
Get yourself a McDouble.
Calm down while I tell this charming story.
Everyone wants to hear about the ring.
Nobody wants to hear your sad, pathetic story.
How long did you have to?
Somebody send Brian Money to mute her mic so I can tell my charming story.
Anyway, Andrew bought me this ring when he only had a few hundred bucks.
And he still only has a few hundred bucks.
Look at the poor loser.
You can only wear a sweat.
Crucible chat.
Marge, the reason why you're a little bit issued.
You have no clue what's going on.
You have no clue.
Because I only, I wanted the man, not the ring, okay?
Ah, well, you scored.
You scored.
Woohoo!
You got married to a loser that can only give you a gold band.
Look, loser.
I want you to say something nice to Rachel.
Rachel, I want you to say something nice to Holly, okay?
She doesn't have to say anything nice to me.
She's showing the whole world what kind of personality she has that's going to attract millionaires.
This is the person.
That's what every millionaire wants there, ladies and gentlemen.
It's so pathetic.
There's many millionaires out there.
Millionaires isn't even that much money.
Can we stop and move on, please?
I want to rating not that much.
This is exhausting.
This can be easy.
So I won't.
Oh, you don't like it.
No, this is exhausting.
I just have a.
You're just energized right now.
I'm kind of digging it to you.
Yeah, he's energized.
I wish it was.
I wish I was.
I don't fuck with bullying, and it's going back and forth.
And now I'm fucking irritated.
Can we just please move on?
Do you want to get bullying?
She asked me to come down.
She bullied me.
I never said anything bad.
I had a daughter large marge when you first got on, and I think that's what set her off, to be honest.
I mean, she's no better.
She's talking shit too.
Both of you.
She asked, and I burned eye makes them all go blind.
Can we please move on?
I'm over it.
I gotta move things on.
I gotta move things on.
This shit's boring and red.
Final thought.
Final thought.
Rachel, you want a final thought?
Yeah.
Chair two is a fake.
Everything about her is phony.
She's totally making up this whole person.
Look at the little baby voice.
That's a fake voice.
It's fake tears, fake age, fake tits.
Everything's fake.
Chair three is a masculine pain in the ass.
Chair four is Delulu.
Chair five, we have already been over.
Chair six seems nice and she's pretty.
Chair seven, absolutely delusional, feminist, total postmodernist goofball.
Thinks she's really hot when she's not.
Chair eight, she's just kind of have much to say about her.
What do you mean?
There you go.
There's my uncle.
Thank you for your feedback.
I like our chances.
Received.
That's you have a wonderful personality.
You came in hot.
I actually do.
Pretty condo.
Congrats on that.
Pretty entertaining lady.
I was not ready.
Ah, that was good.
Talk your shit, girl.
Do you want the nice Wilson back?
Yeah, bring Mr. Wilson.
Bring Mr. Wilson back.
Wow, that was all right, Brian.
All right, good to have you, Rachel.
Appreciate it.
Good to see you.
Good to see you.
Let me let these soup chats come in.
Please raise Andrew's volume.
We can't hear him, but over the ladies, casual germ.
Oh, these are below the threshold.
I'll just pull them up there really quick.
Selena Gournes, boost Andrew's audio is much quieter.
That's weird.
I'll look into that in just a moment.
Mike Jones, chairs one, two, five, and seven are delusional.
Okay.
I mean, they all are, but those ones more.
W. Andrew, W. Brian, W. Rachel.
Thank you, Mike Jones.
Much appreciated.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We have Mr. Jimmy.
Thank you for the membership.
Appreciate it.
Just Gerald.
Thank you for the $20 soup chat.
Appreciate it.
Mike Jones.
Thank you for the $20 soup chat.
Appreciate it, man.
Turn up Rachel's mic.
She's cooking.
That's weird.
I don't know why that's low.
Seth, thank you, man.
Mr. Jimmy, keep seething.
Okay, thank you, Mr. Jimmy.
And thank you, Seth, for those soup chats.
Guys, super chats are $100 and up for full reads.
Guys, like the video if you're enjoying the stream, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
Drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one.
There it is.
Jay, thank you for the prime there.
Or I think it's a, I don't know if it's sub, a prime, whatever.
Oh, here, can you do this, Mary?
At the very top of the screen, you're going to see something.
So if you go out of F11 in the window tab over here, you're going to see at the favorites bar, there's something called calculator.
Do you see it?
Calculator, yeah.
Yeah, click that, and then we're going to go that real quick.
We're going to do just one for the sake of time because we don't have time.
You have it?
I did.
Just you have it?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right, scroll down.
Okay, so this is for you.
We're going to find you your perfect guy.
What's the age range that you would date, Holly?
Into the mic if you can.
Into the mic, please.
Kindly into the mic.
Be happy at least 55.
So, from what age to what age, though?
So, we can do 55 to 70.
But, I mean, I can't even, you know, that's just saying.
I don't know if that's sure.
Hit exclude married.
Okay.
Race?
White, black, Asian, or any race?
I would like white, but I'm, you know, still.
Look, we got to move through this quick, so I just need, I just need quick answers here.
Minimum height?
I would like 5'10.
Okay.
Do you want to exclude obese men?
Or are you fine dating a guy who's obese?
If he's chubby, that's obese.
Obese.
Well, I don't know.
Is it morbid?
It's just obese.
What is obese?
5'10?
Wait, a man who's 5'10 is considered overweight.
He's obese if he's 209 pounds or more.
Well, 209 pounds is fine.
Okay, so don't exclude obese, I guess.
Minimum income, is it 500,000?
Or anybody that is retired is what I want.
Someone that's established and retired.
Can you give a number?
500.
They retire.
They don't have income.
I'd like them to maybe have their home paid for, that they've got some money.
Just put me in the bank.
Whatever they're maxing.
Just max it.
Yeah.
Okay.
So probability 0.029% of men fall into that range.
Okay. Okay.
It's pretty interesting.
It's pretty interesting.
Hey, Brian, can we just point out that when Rachel stood up and did the like topsy-turve, that she was half the size of large and in-charge Marge?
I just wanted to point that out.
That's all.
Ivermectin curses.
Cancer says, I understand why chair five needs a millionaire.
Someone's got to pay for the amount of food she clearly eats and the doctor's bills for diabetes.
Also, Brian, is this chair two show or yours, man up?
I don't know what you're chair two show.
I mean, I was maybe this is in reference.
I was away from the table for about five minutes, so I don't know if I missed something there.
But thank you for the message, man.
Appreciate it.
Okay.
We have B here.
Thank you for the membership.
Appreciate it.
Rachel says that's the first time I ever cooked a lunch lady.
Okay.
Fry Baxter.
Thank you for the super chat, man.
I do appreciate your super chat.
Okay, guys, if you want, get it in.
Super chat's 99.
We need to blast through all the other notes here pretty quickly.
So how tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
5'4.
I don't really have a preference on height.
Okay, so you did a guy who's like your height?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm 5'7 and probably like 5'11.
Okay, you wrote six foot, butcher.
What about you?
I'm 5'4 and minimum 5'10.
Okay, what about you?
5'7 and 5'10.
What about you got you guys?
Just please, into the mic.
5'9 and 5'9.
What about you?
5'6 and 5'7.
Next.
5'5 and 5'7 ⁇ .
I'm 5'8, so probably my tall, yeah, how tall I am, or maybe 5'9.
Okay, got it.
And then hold on one sec here in the notes.
Minimum.
I mean, I won't linger on this too long.
You said you want a guy who makes $1 million to $200,000.
That's the preferred, but minimum I'll do is $100,000.
Okay.
And then you said $150,000 and then you said $300,000.
Yeah.
Oh, I said $130.
But $130,000 and you said $300,000.
So just do you think you'll get that?
For you?
Me?
Yeah, you think you'll get a guy who...
Yeah.
Because that's your minimum.
Yeah, lots of people in my industry make that.
Lots of people in the entertainment, most people in the entertainment industry are not making 300,000, like, do you date crew?
Cast?
What do you date?
Well, like myself as a crew member, I make what I told you that I make, and that's like on a year that's like not as awesome.
Have you ever made $300,000 a year?
I have not.
Okay.
I mean, pretty sure most crew are not making $300,000 a year in Hollywood.
You're wrong about that.
So what percentage of crew, full-time crew workers on the Hollywood film are making $300,000 a year?
If you go, like, let's say it's like when things are like super busy and you go from like a TV show to a TV show to a TV show or to a movie, like you, you're making like $75 an hour and then you're getting time and a half and then you're getting like OT and then you're getting travel.
And then it's like, it's very possible to make that.
I think you're underestimating that.
I'm underestimating it.
I understand it's possible, but I mean, have you dated somebody who's made that much?
I don't ask too much about people's incomes, but I mean, probably not.
So wait.
You've never dated somebody who makes $300,000 a year?
I don't ask.
I don't.
I don't ask.
Yeah, you might not know precisely how much they make.
I would say that I have, yes.
Like, I don't ask that question, but if I'm dating someone in my industry who is very busy, then I would assume, yes, that they make that amount of money.
Yes.
But have I asked?
No.
Do I know what that means?
Do you know what his job is?
That the guy who you think was making that much money, what was his, like, job title or whatever?
I don't want to get into that.
You don't need to say what film.
No, but it doesn't matter.
He was a boom operator.
I don't know.
Just say what?
No, it's too small for me to even say that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's just like, if you haven't dated a guy who makes $300,000 in your entire life and now at 36, you're like, okay, I'm going to go ahead and get a little bit of a break.
Well, the thing is that I comfortably support myself in Los Angeles.
So if I was going to decide to marry someone, they would have to make more money than me.
Like just for me to even consider doing that, to like move in and all that stuff.
Because like right now, I support myself.
So like you wouldn't date a guy who makes just as much as you, $150,000?
I mean, I guess I would, but it'd be nicer if he made more.
Yeah, I get it.
But the question is, the minimum, not the ideal.
I guess I wouldn't say no.
Like, I wouldn't say no.
Okay, if we are going minimum, I'll say like $100,000.
But ideally, three.
Damn, y'all, y'all got kind of delusional standards.
Not really.
Yeah, you guys got delusional standards.
$300,000, that puts him nearly in the 1% of men.
Are you a 1% woman?
I've met more men that make that.
I think you guys are just in like shitty industries.
Like, I know a lot of people who make that amount of money.
Like, I think you're just in like a different arena.
Like, I have a whole group of friends who make that amount of money.
I'm literally in your industry.
Hang on, Brian.
She's right.
You are in a different arena.
It's called reality.
I'm in a reality of that.
That's like normal for people who work in my industry.
It's normal for you to just know people who make that kind of money.
That's just lies and bullshit.
But okay.
We have this look.
We have the stats.
We have all the stats in the world.
Okay, that's okay.
The average height of a woman is 5'5, right?
So it's what is it?
5'4?
Go ahead.
Okay, 5'4.
But like, I don't see that many 5'4 women.
That's average height.
Like, the average is usually not the thing that you see all over the place.
Like, it's just they take these two numbers and bring them together.
Wait, are you just ready?
Hang on, that's a ridiculous criticism.
Women wear heels and they wear things, which gives you a lot of money.
Okay, besides the point, I'm surrounded by people who make over $100,000 to $300,000 a year.
I'm sorry that you guys aren't.
Sure.
Let's just go with that.
But where's the millionaire with the ring?
Are you asking me?
Yeah.
My millionaire with a ring?
Yeah.
Oh, he's around here somewhere.
He's in my DMs after this.
Watch.
I'm going to let you guys know.
I'll tell you what.
You're both invited to the wedding.
I'll make a million-dollar bet with you that at the end of this year, you ain't fucking got a ring on your finger from no millionaire.
I don't have a million dollars, so I'll bet you $500 on that, though.
You ain't got $500K to bet.
Just $500, regular ass dollars.
I mean, if we're going to really lower the stakes, I guess.
Okay, Mike Jones says the only people that could even possibly make that much money are directors, cinematographers, and a select few camera operators.
The cast does too, but that's not Chair Seven's claim.
About half of Hollywood crew qualifies for food stamps, by the way.
Yeah, I mean, if you're working, if it's like directors, cinematographers, music super, like top-tier music supervisors, like yes, but you're being kind of vague as to like the kinds of projects you're working on.
Most people in Hollywood are not making $300,000, like crew, crew members are not making $300,000 a year.
You guys should try OnlyFans.
That's great.
Unless you're dealing with like major, major like AAA films like James Cameron, Avatar, these people are not making $300 on like B-level films.
Are you working?
Are you doing TV or I have an IMDb?
Are you doing TV or film?
I do both.
But are you working on like AAA major motion pictures?
Movies?
Answer the question.
I'm not going to look it up, bro.
I work on big projects.
Yes.
Have you worked with Tarantino?
No.
Have you worked with Spielberg?
no have you worked with i have done a marvel movie like uh what's what's the uh Who did The Departed?
What's his name?
Starts with Us or something?
Anybody?
I just think you don't understand my industry, babe.
Like, it's common.
I'm familiar with the entertainment industry.
Yeah, there's a lot of jobs and a lot of people that are doing it.
I don't think I'm surprised that you think that $300K is a lot.
Thank you.
It is a lot.
Thank you.
$300,000 is a lot.
That gets you close to the 1%.
That's more than what you're making as whatever you do.
I'm not talking about me.
I could be making a billion dollars and also be able to recognize, okay, somebody who's making $300,000 a year, that's approaching the 1% of men.
Okay, but she's just saying that she's around that's her friends or that's her group of people that she's around.
But she's yet to actually, like when I asked her, well, have you dated a guy who even makes that much?
And she's like, well, I don't really know.
She looks like she would be around people like that.
I don't know why.
What do you mean she looks like she?
I mean, I work, like, I'm around people who make that money.
Like, I don't know, like, what if you're not.
Okay, just because, okay, let's say you worked on a AAA film and Leonardo DiCaprio, Leonardo DiCaprio's there, Brad Pitt's there.
It's Tarantino, the director, whatever it is.
Just because you're around them doesn't mean you're dating them.
Yeah, I have never dated any of those people you just mentioned.
But they're not the only people in that arena that would be doing well.
Yeah, I don't disagree.
Okay.
I think if you just look at the statistics about like how many people in the world make 300k, you would be able to see that it is a lot of money.
Okay, we have Brandon here.
Thank you for the he bought something.
Shopped out with ever.com.
Thank you for the looks like you got a t-shirt.
Brian and Andrew, y'all have changed the culture.
We wouldn't have Trump without whatever.
Okay.
All right, I'll take the credit.
Sure.
Thank you, Brandon.
Appreciate it.
We have a chat.
100%.
It was due to whatever podcast.
100%.
It was definitely me.
Wait, we already read that.
Asshole react.
Large Marge should probably do a little research about who she is talking to before publicly embarrassing herself.
As far as Lindell, was the teeth in or out?
How rude.
Your audience has no courage.
No couch, you fucking scumbag.
Quit calling me Marge, large Marge.
Ugly, limpless Peter.
All right, you guys, both of you guys.
All right, bump the brakes.
Both of you guys stop.
Both of you.
Both of you stopped.
Well, how rude to invite someone on your show and then say bad stuff.
I'm not, I can't.
How rude?
Andrew, you're so rude.
Yes, okay, cool.
You're rude.
We get it.
You're rude.
You invite someone to be on your show and then you cut them down.
I get it.
Just drop it.
Just drop it.
You guys had your thing.
You guys had your beef.
Drop it.
We're moving it on.
Just drop it.
Just drop it.
Drop it.
With the teeth in or out.
Look, Andrew, the whole, just both of y'all drop it.
Drop it.
It's over.
You guys had your little exchange.
It's done.
All right.
Okay.
With in or out, Marge.
Come on, Andrew, dude.
Are your teeth in or out?
I can't tell.
My teeth are in.
They're in.
How about yours?
Yeah.
You'll never know.
All right.
Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike?
What about you?
Go ahead.
None.
You have to, if you had to pick one, though.
I would say a man.
I'm pretty covered up every time I hike.
I don't think I'll.
So you picked.
I put none, but if I went down to it, I cannot fight off a bear.
I can't.
Okay, so you pick a man?
Yes.
Okay.
What about you?
I mean, I wrote down bear because I just think it was like funny, but like probably a man, but it depends on like what kind of man, like men can be really scary.
So it's just random.
I'll just.
I said bear.
Random man.
Man.
Random man.
Random man.
Man.
Man, too.
Okay, that makes this pretty easy then.
We're going to skip off of that.
I did actually think of one, though.
Well, whatever, not this panel.
Okay, we're going to get into the questionnaire here.
Why don't we start with one question?
Who here's a feminist?
Just show of hands?
Is anybody a feminist?
Nobody?
Not even sociologically.
Feminists.
Support the rights of women, you know.
Okay, no feminists, though.
Yeah.
All right.
So hold on.
Let's get into it then.
I want to get to the exciting stuff.
Here, you know what?
We're going to start with Ava.
Did I say it right?
It's Eva.
Eva.
Sorry.
You wrote, you know what?
I'll just do it in an order so it's simple.
You said a man dating a transgender woman is straight.
I mean, yeah, I mean, like, she's technically a girl.
You know, and, you know, if he likes her for being a girl, he's straight.
Yeah, in my opinion.
Um, but actually, just going around the table, what is a woman?
Um, biologically, or like aura, or like you know, biologically, it's someone with a vagina.
And, um, in terms of like other things, it's just femininity.
There's a reason why people are gay and are because it's not because they literally want a vagina, it's because they are probably like feminine what a girl entails without periods and all that stuff.
But like, yeah, they probably like to do girly things.
And I think, yeah.
Oh, yeah, what is, sorry.
I'll repeat the question: What is a woman?
Um, someone with a vagina, okay, someone, someone with a uterus and a vagina, someone that has chromosomes of a woman, yeah, uh, the X chromosome born with the X chromosome, someone who identifies as a woman, uterus, vagina, woman.
Wait, wait, hang on, just real quick.
You do know XX and XY, so men are also born with the X chromosome, it's just X, Y, X, Y, isn't X, Y a male, yes, I thought just X chromosome, though, I thought X was female, yeah, yeah, X X.
Oh, it's two X's, it's not just one, yeah, okay, I thought it was uh, just one, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Um, someone that identifies as a woman, the same as she said.
Wait, who?
Who said that?
I did.
Oh, you said a woman is someone who identifies as a woman, is that what you said?
Okay, yeah, so that's yours position, too.
Okay, can you define a woman without using the word woman, though?
So, am I a woman if I identify as a woman?
No, no, why not?
I you just said a woman is a woman who a woman is a woman is someone who identifies as a woman.
If you feel you are a woman, you are.
No, no, no, no, I don't feel like I'm a woman, but I'm choosing to identify as a woman, but you don't present as a woman either.
Biology and science don't lie.
I'm sorry, okay.
Um, but so going to yours, you said a man dating a transgender woman is straight, yeah, if he sees him as a woman, yeah.
I don't think it would be straight, though.
I mean, just belief, fix it if he's sorry, if he sees her as a woman and like originally she presented herself as a woman, and you know, maybe he doesn't care.
What if there's a penis?
If there's a penis, yeah, um, hmm, you know, I don't know, it's a little sus.
But if he would it be straight, um, if he likes her as a woman, yeah, even if she's not a girl, so if your best friend said he was gonna go home and suck his girlfriend's dick, would he be straight?
You know what?
It would be sus, but I would be like, yo, if you sus, what does that mean?
Sus means like this little like borderline.
Doesn't sus mean, hang on, doesn't sus mean I don't believe you, it's but it's just not what I believe.
I'm gonna take their word.
Why would they lie if they if they believe that they're dating that they're dating a woman to me?
A man says to you, I'm gonna go home and suck my woman's dick.
Okay, that's a little sus, but you're not sure if it's straight or not.
Dude, if if he sees her as a woman, then that's his perspective.
Sucking her penis.
You know, there's guys who can suck a dick and still be straight.
I do believe that, you know, like I do believe that.
Yeah, you'd be surprised.
You'd be surprised.
You'd be surprised.
They can still be straight.
I think if they're gay, I think if they're gay, they fall in love with men.
You know what I mean?
I'm just saying, that's my opinion.
That's my opinion.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
So, men who suck men's dicks are also straight.
God damn, maybe.
Like, if they say they like women and they think they like women and they know they like women, I don't know.
They tell me they're making $100 so that you can wear the dunce cap.
Whatever, but I think that if they see whatever the person is as a woman, then it's a girl.
You know what I'm saying?
I have no place to say anything else.
Yeah, I mean, how would you know except that they're sucking a dick?
Yo, by all means, please.
I don't.
It's cheating, girl.
May I say something?
Go ahead.
Hang on.
I just want you to tell me, true or false.
Okay.
Sometimes straight men go home and suck their wife's dick.
True or false?
I don't know.
Dude, this damn.
No, True or false, the only answer is true or false.
Sometimes straight men go home and suck their wife's dick.
True or false?
I don't know.
You don't know.
Yeah, I don't.
You don't know.
I'm respectful of other people's choices.
And if they want to see their partner as a woman and they're a man, and then I guess it's straight.
Like, I don't know.
I have no idea.
So then I'll ask again.
True or false?
This is not a true or false question to me.
One more time.
True or false?
Not a true or false question.
Yeah, that's all it is.
I'll tell you what.
I'll make a deal with you.
Okay, so ask me any question which is true or false, and I'll answer with true or false if you do the same.
Okay, would you suck a dick to save your wife's life?
What?
False.
Now, my question to you.
True or by the way, that wasn't a true or false.
I know, I just wanted to ask you.
True or false.
Okay.
True or false, men go home sometimes and suck their wives' dicks.
Oh, but it could be possible.
True.
It could be possible.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Just put your mouth.
Hold on.
Hold on.
We're not going to do that.
Wait, sorry, what?
What happened?
I said Obama does it.
Stop.
Please stop.
Like, that's such a tired, like, oh, Michelle's a man.
Please, like, let it, like, stop.
That's so ugly.
Are you going to let trashy?
How do you feel about that?
That is just so stupid.
It's kind of like back in the day when people used to call Sierra a man for whatever the fucking reason, and everyone just kind of ran with it.
For like Lady Lago.
Yeah, it is like, I'm not even.
The proper term is pansexual.
You like people, all human beings.
I agree.
Michelle Obama is not trans.
Just a really ugly woman.
That's fair.
But back to this, but back to this.
Can you just say true or false without any qualifier, like I did for you?
But why do I have to say true or false?
Like, it's not a valid question.
I did it for you.
I literally did it for you.
Oh, but I didn't say I'm going to do it for you.
I don't have to reciprocate.
We'll do this again.
We'll see if you're actually good family.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Ask me a true or false question.
I'll say final thing.
I'm going to finish.
Okay.
If you suck dick for to save your wife, are you gay?
That's not true.
You are gay.
Okay, have that.
Okay, hang on.
Hang on.
True.
If you say dick to save your wife's life, you're gay.
Fair enough.
That's true.
Since I answered true.
Okay, okay.
I'm ready.
Yes, So, man goes home to suck wife's dick.
Right?
Yes.
True or false.
That's his wife.
True or false.
True.
If he says it's his wife, I'm going to respect it.
Okay.
Yeah.
We got Ogle here.
Thank you, Ogle.
Thank you.
Thank you, Ogle.
Appreciate it.
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Make sure those people still subscribe to her, regardless of which.
All right.
Thank you.
Oh, goal.
Guys, we'll be good.
We're going to get James Sexton on the case.
He's going to...
He's just going to, you're going to get a subpoena.
You're going to get served.
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Moving on to the next thing.
It was from our good friend Evelyn.
Evelyn, the statement, men are not physically stronger than women.
You circled that.
So you think what?
No, because I think there are women that they are stronger than the men.
And we can see that in sports even.
So I don't believe that that is true.
Well, I agree with you that there are some women who are stronger than some men, but generally speaking, are men stronger than women for most of the physical work, yes.
As opposed to, what do you mean?
I don't know, like carry heavy stuff.
I don't know.
Yes, all sports.
Almost all sports.
And almost all sports, men do better than women.
So, do you disagree or agree?
I disagree.
Okay.
Everyone is different, and the talent is not because you are a woman or a boy.
Well, here's the thing, though: is if you look at world record holders, so you have, for example, 15-year-old high school boys who are faster than, or whatever the sport is, than Olympic world record holders.
So, and you have, for example, you like soccer or football?
You're from Argentina?
Yeah.
Okay.
15.
Are you disagree?
You disagree or?
Oh, no, no.
Oh, you're doing a weird thing with that.
Sorry, I'm just a kid.
Yeah.
So, okay, you have 15-year-old high school boys who like dominate and crush professional female soccer teams.
How do you explain that?
Testosterone.
I'm not asking you.
I'm asking her.
Can you repeat the question?
15-year-old high school boys, when they play against professional-level female football players, soccer players, the 15-year-old high school boys destroy them.
Really?
Yes.
I don't believe you, but if you say so, it's fine.
Okay.
I can actually pull this up for you and give you the exact teams where this happened.
But it is in fact the case that they took pro soccer athletes who were female, put them against a high school soccer team, and they lost not only mildly, but badly.
And here, I'll give you the names.
This is high school soccer team.
Male takes on pro female soccer team.
One second here.
I'll pull it up, Brian.
I'll just make so that I make sure that you have the right ones.
But this video went viral, by the way, of them doing this, and it was completely humiliating to the women.
They lost by every single metric you could conceive of.
and they were pros against a high school soccer team.
Okay.
Thanks for leaving for me.
FC Dallas, U15, Boys Academy, U.S. women's national team.
They won 5-2.
Completely decimated.
Just saying.
Wasn't even close.
Here, I'll pull up the actual article here.
Wait one sec.
Here, while you're, do you have the other one pulled up that I sent you?
Yeah, but I also sent this.
So let's do the soccer one first, then we'll do the other one really quick.
Okay, get that pulled up.
Nope.
Oof.
All right, pull that up.
Oh, there's going to be a bunch of fucking ad bullshit.
Can't even.
Yeah.
So this is Steve.
Oh, my God.
Hold on.
I was just saying US 15 means under 15.
Yeah, scroll up, scroll up, scroll up.
Make it bigger.
Mouse wheel, make it bigger.
So the U.S. women's national team, which mind you, didn't they win the women's World Cup or something?
So the Dallas under-15 boys squad beat the U.S. women's national team in a scrimmage.
And then pull up the other one, the boys versus women.
U-15 means under-15.
Yes, 15.
We showed it.
So this is the overall medal count.
So this is comparing.
If you look under where it says boys versus women, it says male high school high school athletes versus female Olympians.
So if you put high school boys and you put them in the Olympics against women in the Olympics, the boys, the high school boys will steal all those medals where it says overall medal count.
They'll take all those medals from women.
Scroll down.
Here, let me hide the super chat thing.
Scroll down.
We're going to do track and field.
We won't show everything, but scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
No, no, no.
Up, up, up.
Stay right there.
This is going to resort it.
So if you put high school boys against Olympic elite level women athletes, the men in the 100-meter dash or whatever, and in the 200-meters, boys take the top eight places over women.
So as a woman, or excuse me, as a man, actually, wait, just scroll down.
Actually, let's see the other ones.
This is 400 meters, 800 meters.
It's going to re-sort it.
So blue is boys, red is women.
Again, they take all the medals.
They take the top eight places for 400, 800 meters.
Scroll down.
So to be clear.
Okay, so the 5,000 meters, actually, the women do a little better.
400-meter hurdles.
The men do better.
Just scroll down.
We're going to skip through some of these.
Scroll down, just scroll down.
Let's get to swimming.
Long jump.
Here, we can do long jump.
Okay, the men take most of it.
Scroll down to the, let's do the pole vault.
High jump.
I think we get the point.
Yeah.
I'll do one more.
I just want to show you the swimming.
Okay, the men take all of it, scroll down.
Yeah, sometimes you got to be thorough.
Scroll down, just scroll down, scroll down.
Swimming.
Here's the swimming.
Majority of us.
Wait for the swimming.
Here's the swimming.
Okay.
All right.
You got high school boys who are just who.
Yes.
Yes.
We get it.
But I don't know if she's convinced.
Are you convinced?
Now that you show me the proof, yeah.
Okay, that was easy.
Nice.
Moving on to, of course, you're right.
Well, I just got to ask you, though.
So I want to believe that you're not a delusional woman.
Can't you just look around you in society and see for yourself that it's not even close?
Like when you think about all the electricians and movers and construction workers and mechanics and everybody who makes the world work with your own eyeballs, they're clearly not women.
Like clearly not women, right?
Like that's just clearly true to you, isn't it?
I know, but maybe at some point it's something like cultural because for years like women been doing like different type of work and men been doing different type of work.
And of course, if they are stronger than women, as they say.
Actually, I love this argument.
I think it's a great one.
So if you're primitive, if you're a primitive man and a primitive woman, and survival is the thing that you're after, then wouldn't you associate jobs with the people who are the best at those jobs in order to have the best survival rate?
So very clearly, then, if men are the hunters and women are the gatherers, what have we established?
I think we all get that biologically males are stronger.
It's not just stronger.
What else?
Why are they just in the capacity for these things and women are not?
It can't just have to do with strength because there are women who you can argue are stronger than some men.
And they still don't go into these fields.
There must be something else which is compelling there.
What is it?
Well, I've seen some women in the fields, but yeah, it's just harder work.
Yeah.
I understand.
No, there's basically none.
Like, if you look at linemen, electrical linemen, there's basically no women at all.
Like, basically, none.
And even the ones who are considered electrical linemen don't actually go out and build power poles.
They just don't exist in this field at all.
Do you want women to do that?
Want?
Yeah, like the point you're making is that you want women to be in the world.
I would happily, if you wanted to, I would be happy to exchange where women did all of the most horrific jobs in society while I kicked my feet up and said, look at my tits, and I got whatever I wanted.
That seems like a way better deal to me.
Yeah, there's just man and woman stuff.
Yeah, just what society is.
I mean, I'm not.
You can't.
Am I crazy?
Doesn't it seem like a way better deal?
Like, how upset would you be if you were objectified for your body and basically didn't have to do shit?
But I thought you were.
Like, how mad would you be about that?
I think I would trade male privilege for female privilege.
I'll do that, Trent.
If you could be born again, would you choose to be a woman?
Like, genuinely?
Would you stay your life?
But would you choose to be a woman, like with everything you do?
Yeah, but I've asked this too.
The problem is when you make.
Yeah, yeah.
So the problem with this is when you make an ontological argument, like would you choose your state of being?
Yes.
I don't know what the state of being is.
But you think it's easier and you think it's harder.
I'm absent my own.
I can only observe.
Correct.
So from an observational standpoint, it is very clear to me that women have life on easy mode in comparison to men and that women often will demonize men as though that is not the case, which is just fucking absurd.
It's very clear that they do.
Yes, I think men and women both have a heart in just different ways.
Women don't have it hard in any ways.
That's your point of view.
But if you think being a woman is very easy from your perspective, would you just if you could choose?
I'm actually willing to listen to a counter argument.
Tell me what can you answer that question first, though?
What are women's hardships?
What are women's hardships?
What can you answer that question I asked first?
Can you answer that question I asked first, though?
Would you be what's the question you asked?
I'll answer and then you answer.
Promise?
Promise.
Okay, so if you know like for certain that being a woman is that much easier, would you choose it?
Or would you want to be born a man?
Well, sure, sure.
Like from the logical spectrum?
No, just like you would really want to be born.
Just which are female privilege and hand them to men.
Yes.
No, not handing.
Would you be reborn as a female?
If you could choose.
Like if it's so easy, would you reborn a female?
Again, yes.
You're asking a question which I have no frame of reference to answer because it's ontological.
You're asking.
But you're literally saying being a female is easier.
So I'm asking you.
So would you want to be a female?
Like if you could be reborn.
These are two different questions.
Well, I'm asking you this one.
And I'm asking you.
You have to be silent enough for me to answer the question you ask.
Okay, but it's just a yes or no question.
Like you say.
True or false?
Yes or no?
Okay.
Okay, I'll tell you what.
Yes, if I had the understanding of that.
No, just yes or no.
Just yes or no.
Because you think that's what I'm saying.
Okay, hang on.
So yes or no?
Would you get fucked up the vagina with razor wire to save your nephew?
I'm just.
I'm going to fuck up the vagina with razor wire to save your nephew, yes or no.
You see the point?
You're counterarguing.
Why don't you answer mine?
Lady.
Man, man.
Man, just say yes or no.
It's a simple yes or no.
Answer my question.
Answer mine.
But you said you brought it in with a theoretical logic.
What does the word fucking yes mean?
Okay, so you would want to be reborn as a woman.
Okay, thank you.
Okay, correct.
Would you rather be with you?
Yes, yes.
Okay.
Would you get fucked up your vagina with razor wire to save your nephew?
To save my, I don't really care for my family like that because yes or no.
But if I had to get fucked up, okay, yes, 100 fucking percent.
Yes.
Shut up with this bullshit.
Okay, why does that have nothing to do with each other?
You're just asking an irrelevant question.
I'm saying that when you have if you have a loaded, if you have a loaded yes or no.
Okay, correct.
I can only answer, though, from the status of what is ontology.
But if you load it, then I can load it back.
Yeah, I didn't say you can't.
Here's another one.
Here's another one.
All right.
Would you, would you go back in time to kill Adolf?
Where's the gun?
Hang on.
And save 6 million Jews.
Okay.
If you knew it would lead to the eradication of 8 million Asians.
Boring.
Do I have to choose?
Boring.
But why do I have to say yes or no?
So why are you forcing me to choose such a boring?
Yes or no.
I don't even.
Boring.
I'm literally asking you a question and you're asking me one for what point?
Thank you for answering the fact.
Okay, go ahead.
Go ahead again.
Because I promise, so I'm going to have to answer and make a choice.
If you want to go back in time and kill Adolf Hitler, knowing it would save 6 million Jews if it led to the eradication of 8 million Asians.
Would you do it yes or no?
Perhaps.
I don't.
Yes.
No, no, that's not yes or no.
No.
I will kill my Asian race.
Perhaps.
Yes.
Yes.
Preferably, like North Korea.
Maybe like then they want to be like, preferably those Asians, you know?
Like, so yes.
So now you, now maybe you understand what a loaded question is.
No, I don't, because you, for a fact, say that women have it easier.
And you're like, yeah, I would rather have kids and like take pictures.
And you already said that as a woman, that's not like right.
And for you to be a woman and do that.
Wait, he said that.
Yes.
No.
Really?
But I'm just, you literally say it's easier to just take pictures and like live the easy life.
So, okay, then if you were a woman, would you be doing that though?
Yeah, it is easier, but and yeah, you think about the OnlyFans girls who do it.
But what about the girls that aren't doing it?
You know, like, yeah, I'm just you're talking about them.
Yeah, what about them?
Yeah, I'm just not doing it.
And you're not, you guys always talk about the worst things.
Okay, but anyways.
How many more questions do you have?
Yeah, I'm ready to go home.
We need to like wrap this up.
Yeah, we got more.
Okay, let's get it going.
Okay.
I mean, what time is it?
It's time to go home.
It's time to go home.
How many more questions do we have?
We got eight minutes left.
No, we're going longer because y'all took forever to get through all this stuff.
No, You let the whole argument with them continue for a very, very long time.
Yeah, that was like a yelling match for 10 minutes is like ridiculous.
How longer?
Anyway, what are the questions?
What do we have to do?
How about we stop the meta conversation?
We'll get through all the questions.
And then once we're done with everything, then we can wrap the show.
Okay.
So we can, this is an interesting convo.
Perhaps time permitting, we'll get back to it.
But I'm going to continue on with the questionnaire.
Going to you, you said, so for number 19, men are not the primary victims of war to which you agree.
So who are the primary victims of war?
I think about everything, like in terms of like grape on women, like not just if you're talking about them doing the fighting, I do they do think they are like of course the victims of the women.
Yeah, but it's about war.
Yeah, but then like I'm talking about like everything about war like the rape of war, the fighting SA or grape.
Sorry, the grape of war and I think it in that perspective, but if you're talking about who fought and stuff.
Okay, let me ask you a question then.
Do you, so you're saying that like everyone's somewhat affected, but the main how do you differentiate when it comes to, I guess, uh, the impact or suffering?
So do you think, for example, like, do you make the following trade, I guess?
If you can prevent one woman from being graped, it's worth killing a thousand men.
Do you take that trade?
No, I can't because that's, I mean, that's something I can't even choose from.
Like, I personally have, of course, but no, that's okay.
So in war, overwhelmingly, and if you can look at historical wars, World War II, World War II.
Hold on, hold on, stop.
Stop interrupting.
Okay, sorry, I guess.
If you look at World War II, World War I, these are the most documented historical events ever.
Okay.
So we know pretty well when it comes to military casualties, deaths, and then also crimes against women.
I don't know why you're doing this.
I'm just so excited to talk about this.
Okay.
Okay.
So we know that something like 20 million men died or something like that, and then there were civilian casualties.
So, and yes, women absolutely were graped during World War II, World War I.
We don't know the precise numbers.
It definitely wasn't 20 million.
Do you think that 20 million male deaths?
Here, I'll just be charitable.
5 million women were graped.
20 million men.
That's probably not even the actual numbers, but just to throw that number.
Okay.
20 million men dead.
Which is worse?
Do I have to pick or do I get to talk on why I chose that exactly?
Pick and then you can tell me why.
Okay, what am I picking on again?
I'm picking up.
Which is worse.
20 million men who die or 5 million women who get graped?
I don't, I'm not sure, only because I think men, like, they go to war.
Of course, some of them don't want to, but they do fight for a cause and they feel proud to like fight for their country.
Or I'm just saying, like, maybe majority.
And I think, like, grape is very grape.
Grape SA.
Oh, sorry.
I said grape.
It didn't sound like it, but just say yes.
Okay, I'll just say SA is very, like, it's not chosen at all, I would say.
I would say that.
Do you know what the draft is?
I'm sorry.
You know, you heard about comfort women, right?
During war and all that stuff.
Yeah.
And it's just like that.
Like, men are not.
Yeah, I agree.
Bad.
SA bad.
Comfort women bad.
Yes.
And I just think that war in general, of course, like, I think the who chooses war.
Like, is it men or women?
Like, who chooses women?
Yeah, sure.
I'm just saying, like, I sure, absolutely.
It's just bad.
Don't make me choose between.
It's just bad, period.
And if you're talking about- You're going to ask a question.
You got to let me answer the question.
You can't just go over it.
Like, every time you guys do here, you guys do that quite often.
Yeah, I'm the host.
But it's just, okay, so you get to do whatever you want, I guess.
Okay.
Well, yeah, I'm the host.
I'm going to interrupt people.
I'm going to move things along.
So your whole argument is that women don't have a say.
Well, most men, you think like 18-year-old men want to go to war?
Of course, I said I don't think a lot of people go to war.
It's not an argument.
It's just like my thought process.
Throughout most of human history, like most men were conscripted into war.
Yeah, of course.
I don't think that they want to go to war.
But I think that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, so where's your trade-off, though, when it comes to like the greater suffering or the greater loss?
I think both have a war.
How about this?
If you could prevent one woman from being raped, I already said no.
Kill 100 men.
I already said no.
10 men.
No, I guess I can't.
One for 10 is just, it's hard.
I can't choose that.
Don't make me choose that.
I just think everyone.
What about from a justice perspective?
Would you why do I have to pick like specifics?
It's just testing the logic.
So would you got it?
Would you send 100 innocent men to jail?
Uh-huh.
To save one innocent woman or something?
No, would you send 100 innocent men to jail if it meant one actual grapist, serial grapist was convicted?
Okay.
Yeah, it's just not fair.
It's just okay.
I'm just confused, though.
So if we're doing a comparison when it comes to war, the prompt is: so you said men are not the primary victims of war.
Yeah.
So how could it possibly be the case if there's 20 million men who die and only X amount?
We don't have the exact emotional thought on it.
In terms of logical thought on whether or not I would choose to save one woman over 100 innocent people.
Then that's something I'm logically making sense of.
Okay, so are men, so are men the primary victims of women?
But this is my opinion, and I think that I just say no because there's just so many things.
I don't know.
Yeah, but are men the primary victims of war?
I can't.
Well, then, if not men, who?
Just people.
It's just war.
It's just everything.
Yeah, but okay, if the question is, is it women?
It's just both genders.
Yes, I understand that both men and women can be and are victims of war.
Okay, let me ask you, let me make it super simple.
Okay.
A woman who's pregnant.
Okay.
That must be really difficult for the husband to witness the pains of pregnancy that his wife is experiencing.
Who is the primary sufferer of pregnancy?
The woman or the husband?
Physically, the woman.
Psychologically, both.
It's just both.
Why would it be psychologically both?
Do the other women here agree?
Psychologically, it's more difficult for the husband to go through a pregnancy than it is for the woman to go through the pregnancy?
I respectfully disagree.
Oh, that's a good idea.
Actually, I'll just agree.
I'll just concede on this point.
So you're right.
It's possible that psychologically the husband goes through a worse time than it feels bad when you can't do anything about it.
Hang on, hang on.
Let me finish.
In some cases, it could be the case that a husband psychologically goes through more than the woman.
But do you think overall that the woman is the primary victim of the pregnancy or the husband, even if he goes through somehow more psychological damage?
Yes, of course, because physically and mentally, yes.
Okay, got it.
So then Brian's asking that exact same question, physically and mentally.
I understand that.
That's the primary victim of war.
I don't know.
Let me answer the actual question being asked, please.
I say both.
Sorry, I'm sorry.
Here, how about this?
Here, I'll give you another scenario.
Okay.
Okay.
A boyfriend is.
There's a boyfriend, girlfriend, right?
They're dating each other.
The girlfriend is graped.
Okay.
Okay.
That is something really difficult as someone who you care about and love to see them have to go through that.
That's a terrible thing.
Awful crime.
It's going to have ramifications on the relationship.
You feel for them.
You have empathy for them.
They've been perhaps violently physically assaulted.
The emotional trauma that's going to entail in that.
Who's the primary victim?
Of course.
The woman who was graped or the boyfriend.
You would acknowledge that the boyfriend, that's got to be very traumatic as a boyfriend to go through that.
Is it as traumatic as the woman who was graped?
I'm going to say no.
So why can't you say that about men and war when it's clear that men are overwhelmingly the ones who die in war, the ones who are injured in war, the ones who are involved in war?
Okay, because, like I said, it's just both.
It's physical and psychological.
Women are getting essayed, and they can't really.
Were they even allowed to go to war at that time?
And I'm just saying, men can fight for a cause at that time.
I don't know.
I watch movies.
I don't know much about war in general, but that's just my opinion.
How about this?
Okay.
Okay.
Children or women, primary victims of war?
No, I just say both.
Just people were.
I just.
Yeah, yeah.
But the prime, what is the word primary?
I guess primary, do you want to talk about like number-wise?
Because you're talking about number-wise.
Can you just answer my question?
Yeah, in terms of numbers, primary just-majority.
Majority.
Can you just answer my question?
Majority.
Can I at least ask the fucking question?
Yeah, you're just saying, yeah, go ahead.
What does the word primary mean?
Majority.
Okay.
So, primary victim of war.
Okay.
Women or children.
Oh, between like women or children?
Like, choosing between the two?
Yes.
Oh, I don't know the stats.
Children, I don't know the promotion of women.
So, primary victim of war, majority.
Yes.
Men, men, or children.
Okay, again, like, I need, if you, if you want to talk about numbers, which I can really talk about, if you show me two numbers, men, more men than children, then I would say primarily men.
Simple.
If you want to show stats about women and men, then yeah, primarily.
Got it.
So what stats?
Like death?
Just like just death.
I don't know.
Whatever you guys want to put numbers on.
No, we're asking.
I'm asking you.
Maybe it could just be death.
Is that the metric we're using?
Just anything involved because it's war.
It could be death.
It could be anything.
Plus psychology, plus psychological damage.
Yeah, just everything.
Primary victim, meaning the majority of the victims of war.
Yes.
Men or women.
If you want to give me numbers, I can point it out, but I don't know them.
How about just give us your intuition and tell us why you have that intuition?
Intuition on why, intuition on which one.
Like why?
If you had to guess, so let's pretend for a second you're in an alien ship and they put a gun to your head and say, you have to decide right now.
I don't know why you're a primary victim of war.
Men or women based on psychology and physical death, who would you choose even if you didn't have the stats?
All right, I would say men because they were the fighters and of course they were the ones in the front line.
So why did you say that at the beginning?
Like that I didn't say it was women.
I just said I just didn't agree.
Okay.
I just think that everyone, like men, women, children, whatever, like they're all like, you know.
I don't think we look.
Yeah.
When it comes to war, when it comes to war, children are victims.
Women are victims.
That's how I saw it.
But primary victims of war.
Primary would indicate like the most, the first, this sort of thing.
Okay, then I would say men then.
I'm gonna move it on then.
Let's see.
You say male privilege exists.
We sort of talked about that.
Yeah, and I think female privilege exists too.
You know, there's just two sides.
Teresa, you also said male privilege exists.
I think both exist.
Okay, both male and female.
Holly, you said male privilege exists.
Okay.
Okay.
Jade, you said male privilege exists.
Yeah, both privilege.
And you think men are more privileged in society than women?
Yes.
Okay.
Amanda, you said male privilege exists.
Sure.
And let's see if there's anything else here.
Okay.
I mean, I actually dispute that men are more privileged than women.
And I don't even really like this whole male privilege thing because I think you need to look at the totality of somebody's circumstance.
So a male, there are perhaps male privileges, but I believe privilege has to be analyzed by the totality of someone's circumstance.
So for example, say a five-year-old boy, but he has terminal cancer.
Does he have male privilege?
Is he privileged?
This is sort of intersectional.
Does a five-year-old boy with terminal cancer, is he more privileged than a woman who's perfectly healthy?
No.
No.
Right.
So we have to look at the totality of circumstances on the individual level.
And so this idea that, and frankly, I can't even think of, and also male privilege has to be analyzed in comparison to female privilege.
Because to indicate based on solely on your gender, okay, it confers privilege.
In comparison to what?
Men are privileged, for example.
If we say men are privileged because they get $10 a year and women don't, this is just, I'm making something up.
Men are privileged because the government says, you know what, men, you're so special.
You each get a $10 a year check that women don't get, but they also have a corresponding duty.
And say that duty is, as men, we can force you to go to war.
And you can die.
You can get PTSD.
You can get maimed.
You can get your arm blown off.
You can get your leg blown off.
You can get trench foot.
You can get, you can die.
All the bad things that are entailed with war.
Would we say that in totality, knowing that men can be drafted, would we say that, well, men do get that $10 a year that women don't?
Is it a male privilege?
I think privilege is subjective.
Is what?
Is subjective.
How would it be sub it would be like any type of privilege?
What is a privilege?
But I guess the point I'm trying to make is, in totality, I don't think we could say that, well, yes, men do get paid $10 a year by the government.
Women don't.
That's a privilege.
But they also have to go to war and die, and women don't.
So in totality, where is the total male privilege?
And that's what we have to do when we're talking about privilege is compared to what and what is the totality of circumstances.
I agree.
Yep.
100 percent i always think that environmental factors you know and just like how you're oh go please I'm just, I think when I read privilege, it made, for some reason, I thought men represent strength.
And so they're the maybe priority is a better word.
Yeah.
Okay.
Anyway.
Sure.
So, Jade, you said men are more privileged in society than women.
I don't know if there's somebody else who said that.
I think, oh, wait.
Yeah, I think that was just you, Jade.
I'll open it up to the whole panel, though.
Can anybody here tell me when it comes to grievances?
So, male grievances, female grievances, can any of you state a singular female grievance that even approaches forced military conscription?
What do you mean?
Childbirth.
That's a choice most of the time.
No, I thought you said grievance.
Isn't that a grievance?
How would that?
Well, how would that be?
Like, I think I understand what you're saying.
It's like that's something women have to deal with, men don't.
They just have to do it.
They don't have a choice.
That couldn't be, but that could be a grievance.
It's not like we could do something about that, right?
Well, you're saying that a man has to go to war, and in order to repopulate the earth, the woman has to give birth.
Yeah, but they're not compelled to give birth.
Right.
Nobody's forcing them to.
The government doesn't force women.
Like, there's not a draft for women.
Okay, like you need to have kids.
I mean, if we were like physically stronger, I feel like it would be the same, but we're like drunk.
No, you're not.
That's the thing.
Biologically, we are not stronger.
Yeah, but I'm just asking.
Yeah, so it's just like if they're drafted to, if we are.
Oh, there you ain't something that they have to do.
But wouldn't that say then that just because we're stronger, we should do this thing?
Well, it's just it doesn't make sense.
Like if we're just like, okay, hang on, I agree.
If that, if that makes sense to you, then just because you can have children, you should.
I mean, yeah, I guess it's what you have to do.
Yes.
I want to have children.
You know, if people don't want to have a child.
So then you should have children because you can't.
You want to.
Yeah, and I want to, but then, you know.
So wait, no, you should.
So it's actually immoral if you don't.
No, but it's not immoral if you don't.
That's why there's like deserters, you know, like it's they just.
If you name for me a thing you should do, which isn't a moral claim.
Sorry, something I should do that is immoral.
What is a should claim that is not moral?
You should do what, which isn't a moral claim.
Can you give me an example?
A moral claim.
Yeah, what should I do?
That is moral.
Unless, yeah, that isn't moral.
That isn't moral.
That I should do.
That isn't moral.
Shouldn't, should I do?
What shouldn't?
What should not Andrew do, which is immoral?
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
You don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
When you say should, that's an ought claim.
Like, you ought do a thing.
Those are moral claims.
Hang on, hang on.
Those are moral claims.
You're making a moral claim.
So if you say men are stronger, therefore they should do thing.
I think that means you're saying it's immoral if they don't do thing.
So is it immoral if you don't give birth?
Well, they're capable of doing.
Hang on, let her answer, please.
Okay.
Is it immoral?
Is it immoral if you don't give birth?
No, but it's not immoral if you don't go to war.
Like, I'm not going to be.
Then it's not a should claim.
Then why should I go to war?
Okay, you don't have to go to war.
Well, then it's absurd to say that because we're stronger, we should do that.
Then, oh, you don't have to, but it's just more logical to put.
Yeah, but you said to me that I take it back.
Okay, my apologies.
I put it wrong.
That makes no sense, right?
That makes no sense.
Correct.
So then here's my question to you.
Should women who can give birth?
Oh, I said no, because I don't agree.
No.
Yeah, yeah, correct.
Then should men who can protect you protect you?
No, unless they want to.
No, yeah, right.
So unless they want to.
So we have a compelled draft, right?
I didn't.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, I didn't change it.
Okay, so if men are compelled to draft it where they don't want to, right?
Then you would have to say that that's immoral, right?
Of course it is immoral.
Okay.
So then, if people attack the nation and they want to like carry you off as, I don't know, booty, let's say, they want to carry you off as literal treasure and then take you back to their home country and like, I don't know, SA you a million times and cut off your head.
Should men protect you from that?
I'll protect myself.
I'll off myself before that happens.
You're going to fucking protect me.
I'll off myself before that happens.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
Okay.
Little miss gonna protect herself.
Okay.
Can you just walk me through how you load a semi-automatic pistol?
I don't know.
How are you gonna protect yourself?
If I have to off myself to protect myself, I will.
How do you people?
I'm not gonna expect anyone to protect me unless they, but then if that ever happens, I'd rather off myself.
Andrew, your audio is muted.
I'd rather off myself than like have that happen.
And that's how I'm gonna protect myself.
Then I'm not gonna ask anybody who doesn't want to do it.
If, you know, like, that's what that's my opinion.
Andrew?
Hello?
Can you speak?
You got muted or something.
I don't know what happened.
I don't know if it's on our end.
Can you hear us, Andrew?
Thumbs up if you can hear us.
Yeah, I can hear you now.
Oh, we can hear you.
Okay.
So can you just walk me through then, gonna protect yourself?
How do you load a revolver?
You know, you know, you know, after this podcast, I might just learn it.
But right now, I don't know.
Oh, of course not.
But, you know, now that you think about it, maybe I will.
You're going to protect yourself.
Maybe I just will.
You're going to protect yourself.
Yeah.
Yeah, correct.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, correct.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, so let me just get this right.
I just want to make sure I get your position right.
All right.
Wait, we got to make it quick, Andrew.
You got to make it quick.
Hang on.
It's immoral for you to draft men.
That's bad.
But on the other hand, I completely and totally am reliant on male security for my existence.
But don't worry.
I can actually protect myself, but can't even load a firearm.
And that's not right.
Do I have that right?
No.
Is that right?
No, it's not right.
No, that's not right.
I think it's immoral to only use.
Are you going to use fucking karate?
Are you going to blotty your way out of it?
You know, maybe.
I'll learn that too.
Fuck, man.
Honestly, like, you just, I don't know what you're trying to do.
All right, next.
So going to Teresa here, Teresa, you said that women do not have equal rights to men in the USA and that women are oppressed in the USA.
What rights do men have that women don't?
Well, the abortion thing, for example, like in some states, some women don't get to have an abortion if they choose to.
What if you get raped?
You're forced to have the baby?
Try to use SA or grape if you can, please.
Okay, besides that, is there anything else?
No, that was just a reason I circled it because that made me bad.
Okay.
So, and then, Amanda, you also said that women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
Why is that?
Yeah, that was the same because of abortion rights.
Anything else besides abortion, though?
Or just abortion?
That's the main thing.
And then you said women are oppressed.
Why are they oppressed?
Or is it also abortion?
Also, abortion.
Okay.
So it's not clear to me, at least when it comes to equal rights, because the question or the statement is: women do not have equal rights to men in the United States.
Men don't have any reproductive rights.
So wouldn't actually just an outright complete abortion ban create equality between men and women?
So you're saying ban all abortions and then it's even?
That's what you're saying.
Equal rights.
So currently, men have no rights when it comes to reproduction.
So it's not clear to me if there's an inequality that exists between men and women when it comes to abortion.
Men can't abort a woman's child.
They can't prevent an abortion.
So for this reason, it's not clear to me if it's an inequality of rights between men and women.
You could say it's an exclusively female issue.
Sort of.
You could say that.
I hear what you're saying.
It's just not fair, in my opinion.
You guys, all of you, I hope you all have a wonderful evening.
I have to get out of here tonight.
It is my job to be provocateur and make sure that I get the other side of all of the arguments.
I hope you don't hold that against me because I do it really well.
But I did enjoy meeting all of you and I have conversations like this all over the world.
Brian, we'll send a raid over your way.
Thanks for having us on this evening.
Thank you, Andrew.
Hope you have a good night.
Thank you for tuning in.
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Andrew has left the house here.
So you guys can just bully me, I guess.
So, but you said it's not fair?
I don't think it's fair.
I think it's kind of unfair for some men who want to keep the baby and then they have an abortion anyways.
Like, I think that there is some type of inequality in that, personal opinion.
Or what about the man who doesn't want the kid, but the woman keeps it and she baby traps him and he's on the hook for child support for 18 to 21 years.
It's like it takes two to tango, you know?
What do you mean?
Like you made a baby together.
So are you pro-choice or pro-life?
I am pro-I don't know.
Like when I was younger, I got tricked by the feminists, be like abortion.
Everyone loves a brochure and stuff.
But then I've never had one.
I would never want to have one.
I think that people should have them if it makes sense for them.
What does that mean?
Like I'm in a correct way.
Okay, here.
19-year-old girl gets pregnant.
She's not financially ready.
She doesn't want to have the kid.
Can she get an abortion?
Yes.
Yeah.
If she wants to, absolutely.
Okay, so you're pro-choice.
You're pro-choice.
Categorically, you're pro-choice.
There's no way around it.
Why is it, though, you say, if a man knocks up a woman and maybe she baby traps him, she, oh, I'm on birth control.
I don't want a kid.
She lies.
Or whatever.
She doesn't lie.
She accidentally gets pregnant.
His intention, though, was not to have a kid.
He doesn't want the responsibility.
He doesn't want to be a father.
He doesn't want to pay child support.
To him, you say, takes two to tango.
Tough luck.
Enjoy paying, getting financially fucked and paying child support for 18, 20 years, whatever it is.
Why do you say that to the man?
But there's no responsibility when it comes to the female component of this.
No responsibility in terms of- Well, it seems like you're a little more flexible if a woman gets pregnant and you're like, oh, she's not financially ready.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Get the abortion.
I just think people are going to do it anyways.
And it's like their karma and like everything has a like.
Wait, what?
Karma?
Yeah.
So like if a 19-year-old wants to have an abortion, like I think she should be able to do what she wants to do.
Okay, should a 19-year-old man, should a 19-year-old man who doesn't want to have a kid, should he be Free of having the paid child support.
No, you should just wear a condom.
I don't know.
Oh, okay.
So, just to be clear, to men, keep your legs closed.
To women, fuck around and you can have an abortion.
No, just have an IUD.
What?
But you do realize there are unwanted pregnancies.
Yes.
Okay.
But women can escape the responsibility.
Men can't.
Agreed.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's wrong.
That's more unfair to me.
I think it is unfair.
I agree.
Yeah, it is unfair.
But why are you prescribing?
Why are you saying, okay, tough luck, men, sucks to be you.
You should have thought about that before having sex.
You should have kept your legs closed.
It's funny how pro-choice women, all of a sudden, when the woman wants to keep the kid and then the guy doesn't want to be a father, you become bronze age pro-lifers and you're like, shouldn't have done that.
Should have kept your legs closed.
Why is that?
Wait, so is your like thing about having abortions is because if males don't want to have the kids, basically, they shouldn't have to pay child support and all that stuff.
Is that the main like thing?
That's no, I mean, I'm making an internal critique of her position.
So my position, though, in any state where abortion is legal, I think men should be able to escape any parental responsibility and any child support responsibility.
You agree, but it's never going to fucking happen.
Yeah, I agree, but I think that's way better than being like, you can't abort.
That's way better.
Like, just like, okay, if she wants to have the kid and take responsibility, then the guy should, there should be a thing where he doesn't have to pay child support.
But then there's no liberal support.
But for abortion, there's nobody advocating for this.
It's not liberals who advocate for it.
That would be fair, though.
That would be equal.
But where are all these equal Democrats and liberals advocating for there's a specific term?
It's called legal paternal surrender.
So men can be like, that's way safer than abortion.
Right, but abortion is legal in left-leaning companies.
Yeah, they should definitely do that instead of like forcing people to abort.
Because it is the girls getting.
I'm just going to say, my biological dad left me and my mom didn't ask my biological dad for a penny.
He's never paid child support.
Well, not all women.
I know, but I get it.
Some women, they're not going to go after child support.
But if they do, there's nothing the man can do about it.
Then yeah, then there should be.
100%.
Let's see here.
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Is there anything else, though?
Like any right that a man has that a woman doesn't?
I can't think of anything.
I think there's equal rights.
Showing their nipples.
Sure, I actually agree with that.
I actually agree with that, but I don't really think that that's so funny.
It's true.
Yeah, but I'm looking for something with a bit more gravy toss.
Like, you know, that's not.
That's fair.
Doesn't really seem like the pressing issue, you know.
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Okay.
Gonna blast through these.
I think we only should hopefully have a few more.
So going to you, you said minorities can't be racist towards white people.
Why is that?
I just don't think there's a need for any racism, to be honest.
Sorry, there's what?
There's no need for it.
I just don't, I think everyone has a hard in some aspects of life and there's no need for more.
Just stuff like that.
What do you mean?
I think it's just, it's just like, yeah.
So your question is: minorities can't attack white people, right?
Is that was that the minorities can't be racist towards white people?
So for example, a black person can't be racist towards people.
Yeah, that's because I feel like just racism is just no-go altogether, regardless of white, black, or something like that.
But so I'm, I agree with you.
Racism is bad.
Yeah.
But can white people experience racism?
Of course they can.
Can a minority be racist towards a white person?
I mean, they can, but it's not right.
Oh, perhaps maybe the wording here.
So it's minorities can't be racist towards white people.
Yeah, they can't.
I just feel like nobody should be racist to anybody.
I think what you're saying, like, like, yeah, it's wrong.
Like, they shouldn't, you know, but he's saying, like, like, can they?
Yes or no?
Yeah, anybody can do anything, but I think nobody should just leave things.
Okay, but because here you said that my, that, for example, like a black person can't be racist towards white people.
Yeah.
I just wait.
So I'm.
Yes or no?
Yes, they can't be racist.
Wait, so they can't be racist.
I mean, like, towards yeah, I think that it's not good to for anybody to be racist.
How do you define can't?
Okay.
Are you saying like no?
Can't as in like they shouldn't.
Like, I don't think it's, it's, I don't think they're like.
No, it's not should.
It's can they?
Can they?
I mean, yeah, anybody can do anything.
I don't get it.
No, I'm not saying.
What he's saying is the majority that because racists or different races are supposedly the minority, that white people can't be racist.
That's not what I'm saying.
It's a yes or no question.
No.
Look.
Wait, so I think by definition.
Go ahead.
No, you go ahead.
Go ahead.
I'm just confused about the question.
Like by definition, I think.
I just sorry, go ahead.
Go ahead.
People of color can be prejudiced against white people, but I think by but racist, because racism is systematic and there's not a whole system that oppresses white people the way that there is a whole system that oppresses people of color.
So I think the way that you're wording it, can they be racist?
No, because there's no systematic support.
But can they be prejudice?
Yes.
If we're talking about definitions, I think that's what.
I think it's if she's not understanding the question, though.
And also, you didn't really indicate that on your own questionnaire, but well, I didn't because I knew what you were doing with that.
But like, what was I doing with it?
Well, I think the gotcha is like, oh, like, you can't be like be racist.
Like, there's prejudices.
This is like off language.
Like, what's the definition of racism?
What's the what's the definitive?
What's your definition of racism?
Um, like, being discriminatory against somebody for the color of their race or the color of their skin.
Well, you said there was a systemic.
But I'm pretty sure, based off of the definition of racism, that it has something to do with like systematic oppression.
And that's why you have to be careful with the way that you're wording that.
Well, no, mine would just be either like a hatred or prejudice towards a racial group.
Okay.
That's my definition.
But some people say racism.
There's a different one.
Yeah, well, the different one that I hear from wokies is racism equals prejudice plus power.
So for example, under this definition, white people cannot experience racism.
I disagree with this definition.
Can't experience racism from minorities.
Blacks, Latinos, Asians.
The system doesn't support that.
That's where that comes from.
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It's not popping up on my Stream Labs for some reason.
But so, okay, I'm just.
This is my sociology degree at work.
But is that your definition?
But it doesn't have to be systemic to be like, racism is not only systemic.
Racism is how you interact with someone.
And there can be a systemic component to it.
But like, it's being prejudice against someone's race.
Yes.
Yes.
Like sexism.
So by that definition, anyone can be racist towards anyone.
I mean, I didn't, I feel like this is like a dicey question because I do think that like, yeah, anyone that's a different color can have like racism against someone of another color.
But in definition, I think it does play into.
Yeah, but I mean, if it depends.
If you attribute a definition, for example, Amanda, people named Amanda are racist.
That's not a definition.
No, racism is prejudice towards a racial group or hatred towards a racial group.
And also anybody who's named Amanda is also racist.
By that definition, you would be a racist, right?
But that wouldn't be a definition.
That's such a weird hypothetical.
That would never be a definition.
we can but okay so there's but the definition you're suggesting racism equals prejudice plus power why why would we divert from the established and accepted definition of racism which is just purely prejudice like racism itself has to do with power but prejudice does not it And I think that's the difference.
Wait, so you're saying racism has to do with power?
Well, I don't know the definition of it because I don't know.
Well, there's different definitions.
Okay, well.
I think the most historically accepted version of a definition of racism is simply hatred or prejudice towards a racial group.
I agree.
Yeah.
And there's no component of power or systemic power or oppression or anything like that.
Okay, then based off that, then like, yeah, anybody can be.
Right, but people are trying to change the definition to racism must, in order for something to be racist, it must include a component of power.
What does Google say?
Huh?
What does Google say?
Yeah, let's look at Google.
Definition of racism.
Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual community or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group.
So that's racism.
Now, I've heard from like super this prejudice plus power definition.
But anyways, just going to move it on then.
Let's see if there's anything else here we have.
Hmm.
Men should pay for first dates.
because if you're okay i feel like if a man is asking a girl out and you're asking me out why aren't you gonna pay for the first date you're You're trying to take me out.
Like, if I say someone, hey, girl, like, let's go out.
I'm going to treat them, you know?
It's just one of those things.
Okay.
Yeah.
Jade, you said you would not date a police officer?
Yeah, just because like the domestic violence statistics with that, like just certain professions, I just try to steer clear from stuff like that.
Okay.
Like the trauma that they deal with when they bring it home.
What do you think about men not wanting to date sex workers?
Do you think that's fair?
Yeah.
I think that's fair.
Okay.
Because everyone has their boundary, like their sexual boundary.
All right.
Going here.
Men should pay on first dates.
I feel like almost everybody said yes to this.
Everybody said yes.
Men should pay for first dates.
Wow.
Even Amanda here, the liberal feminist.
You guys really just made all that up.
Made what up?
Am I coming off as liberal feminist?
What are did you vote?
Who did you vote for?
That's nobody's business.
Okay.
Did you vote for Trump?
That's nobody's business.
Okay.
Why should men pay for first aids?
Personally, if they don't, I don't respect them.
You don't respect them?
No.
Okay.
Why should anybody?
On the same token, like if I'm really trying to not go fast, like I don't want them to pay for too much.
Like paying for dinner, okay, but like getting you a big gift or a big something, like I don't like to accept that because I feel like it's just a little too much.
Teresa, why should men pay for first dates?
Same thing as Jade said.
If you're asking me out on a date, like and you're trying to take me out, you should pay for it.
If I ask Jade, Jade, let's go to dinner.
I'm going to pay for it or I'm going to get you a drink or whatever.
How many of all the first dates you've ever been on?
How many of them were initiated by you?
I don't initiate first dates.
Isn't that convenient?
That's kind of convenient, though.
Men should pay because men ask me out.
I never ask men out.
But so, like, I would agree here.
I would agree with whoever asks should pay under the following conditions.
If men and women asked each other out 50-50% of the time, that would make sense to me.
Okay, well, sometimes women ask, sometimes men ask.
But women don't ask men out.
Yeah, yes, I agree with you.
99% of the time, they don't.
Why don't we test this out?
Of the two guys you've dated, did you ask, like, did you make the first move or did they?
I don't know, because I don't just date.
I have to like.
How did you meet them?
Just friends.
Just a.
Okay, did they ask for your number?
Did you ask for theirs?
I didn't ask for anyone's number.
Just mutuals, meeting.
Well, I mean, eventually one of you got each other.
You got his number.
We didn't ask for a date.
We kind of like...
Oh, sorry.
We didn't.
I didn't ask.
I would say I was the one who initiated relationship.
I told him.
Not the relationship.
Oh, the dating.
Dating is the relationship to me.
Well, the first date?
Are you in a relationship?
No.
Okay.
I never just go on dates.
I have friendships.
And then if I trust, I, and if friendship, going out, okay, that's, I pay for my meal, he pays for his.
I didn't, my boyfriend didn't pay for my meal unless until we were like official official.
And when we were official official, okay.
Okay.
Sorry.
But so who initiated?
Somebody has to typically initiate, typically.
The date?
I would say I was the one who initiated relationship, like dating, dating.
And then we were official.
And then when we're official, of course, he would like pay for me because he, and I'm in that, because I don't let people pay for me.
I'm like a, you know, I don't like to owe people things unless we have a solid relationship, you know?
So we were officially dating boyfriend, girlfriend.
And yeah, by that standard, he's already like taking care of me to an extent.
What about you?
Of the guys you've dated?
Did you ask them out or did they ask you out?
I've never asked a guy out on the first date.
And they've always paid for me.
Okay, guys always pay it.
All right.
What about you?
Oh, well, you said you've never asked a guy out.
I asked my homeboys to go out and not.
No, no, I'm saying like first date.
First date.
Yeah, no.
Yeah, I didn't.
Never.
Ollie?
This one just happened.
I didn't even realize I was asking him out.
I said because of the circumstance that he had cancer.
I said, you know what?
We should go out and just celebrate the season.
But you said you were a season dater of all the first dates you've ever been on.
90% of the time the guy asked you out, 100% of the time he was the one who asked you out.
What's the breakdown?
I'm just talking about this last instance because I don't ask men out.
Yeah, no, that's what I'm looking for.
I'm just saying, but he thought that I asked him out because he sat there at dinner going, telling everybody, she asked me out.
She asked me out and I looked at him like if you just look at all the men you've dated, whatever, the majority of the time overwhelmingly they ask you out, correct?
Okay.
Yeah.
Every single time, almost?
That was the only for instance that happened that I said we should go do something.
I wasn't even looking at it as a date.
Okay.
What about you?
Yes.
Yes, what?
Oh, sorry.
Yes, they've asked me out.
Or they've been the one to ask me out.
You've never asked a guy out?
Ever paid for a first date?
No.
Okay.
What about you?
I've never asked a guy out on a first date.
Never asked a guy out or never.
You've never paid?
On the first date?
No.
Okay, what about you?
I asked many times guys to go out and they asked me to.
And I also pay the first date.
I think it's 50-50 all the time, even when you already have a family or something serious.
So I think it's, I was the only one who didn't want that one, I think.
Okay.
Were you?
Yeah, I didn't.
Oh, wow.
Man doesn't pay for me the first time.
No, you did.
Oh, no.
Sorry, you're right.
You're right.
I got my numbers mixed up.
But what's the re why should men pay?
Why?
Because they're the pursuers.
They're the ones that are doing the chivalry.
They're the ones trying to win your heart.
They're the ones that give the ring.
It's they want to get married.
But so just show of hands from all the women.
Should men pay for first dates?
Probably.
Yes, Only one here.
But you answered why.
Why should men pay for first dates?
Just quick answer.
Why?
Oh, oh, no, I was just curious what you thought.
I'll weigh in, but I just want to get your answers first.
Why should men pay?
Oh, I just said if they're the one, if they're the one pursuing, then yeah, they asked her.
But like chivalry, being traditional, okay, yeah.
Why should men pay?
I love being submissive and I like like dominant men.
So I think guys that take care of you financially are very dominant and manly.
Okay, what about you?
Into the chivalry.
Chivalry, traditional.
Yeah.
Chivalry, traditional.
Okay.
Yeah, tradition.
Tradition.
I want my man to take the lead.
Yeah, to take the lead on things.
Take the lead.
Chivalry, traditional.
The point that I wanted to make really quick is even though he was saying that I asked him out, he's the one that paid.
So even if you did, he paid.
So here's my confusion.
I heard tradition, chivalry, nice thing to do.
Want him to take the lead.
Why is it okay?
Like, do you guys think it's sexist to say this?
That men should pay for dates?
I would say yeah.
But, oh, yes, it is.
Yeah, like sexist.
I intrusively think these things.
I'm like, damn, like, that was pretty sexist.
I think to say should is like putting rules on things, and it's like, just like should is like anyone could do whatever they want, but do I prefer that?
Yes.
Yeah, but that's a should.
Do whatever you want.
But that is a.
Do I prefer that?
Yes.
I'm not putting rules on society.
But baked into that is a should.
It's a should.
My expectation of the person that I'm dating is that, yes.
Right.
But what somebody else does is their business.
Yeah, sure.
That's totally fine.
We can acknowledge that there are women out there who are fine paying 50-50 on a first date.
Don't dispute it at all.
But baked into it is a should.
So then, but y'all don't really like it when we start saying women should do X. Really?
Women, women should be, women should dress modestly.
I agree.
To concerns.
You don't agree.
I just think that there's.
But hold on.
So she was talking, you're talking about chivalry and tradition.
You had when Muhammad Ali was saying women should not dress modestly, basically.
You had a really big reaction to that.
He was saying women should dress this way.
They shouldn't have all their parts out.
You had a bit, you said that was controlling, insecure.
But so then, why should, I guess, why is it okay for women to say men should do this, men should do the XYZ?
It's just not.
It's like everyone just has preferences.
It's just, I haven't asked a guy out on the first date.
If you're asking me out, like, take me out then, pay for it because you're the one asking me.
You don't ask, though.
If there's a dynamic in the world where women just refuse to ask men, which is the case, women don't ask men.
You're in a very privileged position.
You can just pick among the men who choose you.
It's not that they choose you.
They make themselves available to be picked.
So it's kind of like to me, it's just very confusing.
I think it's just some things are just how it works.
Just how nothing prevents, does anything prevent any of you from sliding into a guy's DM who you like?
Anything preventing you from going up to a man being like 100%.
Hey, I think you're attractive.
Do you want to?
That's why I find them attractive.
I don't think I've ever just, I've been minding my own business, working, doing me, and if love comes my way, it comes my way type.
I don't really go pursue things because it's just not what I want.
I think men want to pursue love.
You got to understand.
Men want to pursue love and they will ask guys out.
But you got to understand.
You say, well, oh, it's just, you know, if men, you want your dates paid for, just wait until the girl asks you.
Oh, no, that's true.
Men can't wait.
Like, if men did what y'all did, which is just we have multiple women here who are in their 30s who have never even asked a guy out.
They've always been asked to help.
That's a long time to have that amount of experience and never once thought, hmm, the thing that men have to do all the time, the burden that men have all the time, maybe I could do that once.
Yeah, but it's not.
But never.
But I won't be able to do that.
Because men are hunters.
We wouldn't have to do it.
Okay, so what are women?
If we just show up, you know, and like if it's so easy, you guys lose interest.
And that also is just like chemical virus.
It's not true.
It's also a lot of fun.
I mean, that the way a relationship starts is how it continues.
And if I was initiating something with someone, then that's going to be how the relationship continues.
And I don't want that.
Ah, you don't want that.
No.
Okay.
So go ahead.
I will say this.
Like, once I've fallen for someone, I'm happy to take them out on a nice date and plan something.
Oh, yeah, sure.
When women are well established into the relationship and the guy's already paid for the first few dates, I don't dispute that women open up a little bit and they'll, you know, maybe they'll take the guy out.
Yeah.
talking about initially what do women do they've learned hold on hold on What do women do during the initial stages to move things forward?
They flirt.
What do women do during the initial stages to move things forward?
I guess you're not.
What do you want us to do?
You don't do anything.
Y'all don't.
We provide emotional support.
We like me.
Really on the first date.
Yes, men look good when you're on a date with a good-looking woman.
You guys give a fuck about what your friends think of you.
No, we don't.
Yes, you do.
No, we don't.
Let me ask you a question.
If you could be dealing, you're dealing with a guy.
Do you think he'd rather go out to dinner with you or just have you come over immediately and fuck?
If we're dating, it depends on the situation.
You meet the guy and he's like, do you think he'd rather go out on a nice date with you and be seen?
And oh my God, all these other people that I'll never see again, they see me with this hot chick, or would they prefer for you to just come over, nobody sees it, and then you have sex with them?
If he just wants to have sex, then it's going to just be that.
Not necessarily.
He could want a relationship.
If you want to have a relationship, then he's going to want to go through that process to get to know someone.
No, not really.
It depends on what they want.
That's not all men.
Yeah, what's up?
I mean, I think I disagree with your opinion because, like I said, like when we first started, like that guy from Dubai, like he paid me seven grand to just like make an appearance.
And I think that's different, though.
How is that different?
He wanted to be seen.
I mean, when you're dealing with that level of wealth, that's not like genuine dating dynamics.
And it wasn't a date.
Like, you literally just wanted to go to the club with me.
Yeah, that's something entirely different.
Oh, okay.
That's something entirely different.
And some men enjoy the company of women.
Like, having a conversation with us and like getting to know, there are men who enjoy that.
Like, to say, like, oh, just come over and have sex.
It's like, yeah, that's part of it.
But like, I know men that want to go slower in that sense because they enjoy getting to know women.
So it just depends on who it is.
Yeah, that's true.
But this idea that men want to go on a date with you so that they can be seen with you.
That's not, that's not, maybe that's how y'all y'all think.
I think they like the comparison.
Like if someone's masculine and you're with someone who's feminine and like it dressed nice and like the way it complements a man's masculinity, there are men who don't know that way.
Hold on.
I don't give a fuck what some strangers who I'm never gonna see again think about me.
Oh, I'm at some fucking restaurant.
There's a bunch of other people at the restaurant and they may first off.
They don't give a fuck about who I'm on.
They don't care.
Like, have you ever been to a restaurant and you're like, wow, I'm really invested in that person sitting all the way over there?
And they're really?
Has that ever crossed your mind?
There's couples that'll catch your eye if you feel like they look nice.
Okay, sure.
You could acknowledge that somebody's good looking or attractive, but are you particularly invested in that other person?
So why is a per I don't care what other people think.
They don't care.
They don't care about me either.
Why should I care?
There are people, there are men who care.
I feel like weird.
Do you want to date or not want to date?
Huh?
Why do you go on a date?
Or do you just not want to go on a date?
It's not your last date.
I feel like at the end of the day, people are just trying to get laid and everyone has different standards of what they would like before they get laid.
Sure, but again, I'm just confused.
Okay, look, you said chivalry.
Should women dress modestly?
They can just however they want.
Okay, so men shouldn't pay for first dates.
I kind of just want to know like and you should go 50-50 on all the rest of your first dates.
You should insist.
No, no, no.
I want to pay for this.
And not just an empty gesture.
You should insist that you go 50-50.
Sure, you like it.
I love it.
Yeah, but you're not going to do it.
You're not going to do it.
What's up?
Well, I'm just curious.
Like, when you take girls out on a date, is it like you are you guys get to know each other first already?
Or is it like a stranger on a date?
And do you like want to pay or do you not want to pay?
Like, how do you take it?
I mean, I've had different periods of my life.
I don't think right my this specific period right now would be a good example, but like perhaps prior to when I started this podcast and I was meeting people on dating apps or meeting people organically.
I would know like you would probably know like when like oh, I'm not I'm not a great example though because my previous so now if I'm dating a girl, I'm paying.
Why is that?
It's just the most one it's the most optimal thing and it's just that's the dynamic that I'm men with money don't worry about these things.
Not just that, but it's just like if you don't like a girl.
But before but before I had a principle where I was like, okay, I'm meeting these girls on dating apps.
I'll know who they're dealing with.
So my new standard is I'm only going to be extending this if she's only dealing with me.
Yeah.
I'm not paying a first date for a girl who's got a sneaky link and she's talking to 10 different dudes.
But I've been, for example, I was on a date.
This was a couple years ago.
Date with this girl.
Met her on a dating app.
She tells me on the date, I got five dates planned.
Yeah, then you know, like, okay, I'm not doing that.
Why the fuck am I going to pay for a girl that's dealing with other dudes and fucking other dudes?
Yeah.
It's a rap.
I don't want to deal with women who are dealing with other men.
If I know that you're just dealing with me, then I'm prepared to step into my role.
You want to, right?
But I don't even want to, I don't want to date.
I don't want anything to do.
Like, you guys might think I'm crazy.
She could be the hottest girl ever.
Yeah.
You guys might call me crazy.
She could be the hottest girl ever.
If she's sexually involved with another man, I don't want, I don't want anything.
She could be begging to have sex with me.
She could be begging to have sex with me.
The hottest girl in the world.
If she fucked a guy last night, don't want anything to do with her.
That's valid.
You have self-respect for yourself.
want anything i want even a guy has a choice is the thing Like, if you don't have to pay, of course, maybe a girl would be like, oh my God, you have to pay.
But you know the conversation, the flow, whether or not you're going to pay for a woman based on how she's acting and who she is.
You don't have to pay.
Sure.
But then you get to decline.
But it's just if you genuinely like a girl, you would want to pay.
That's just a gesture for you, right?
Yeah, sure.
Just because that's.
That's all.
Because if guys are paying for girls that are doing that, it's like, I think it's the most optimum thing for men to do.
Yeah.
But if we're having a conversation, if we're just like looking at it with a bird's eye view, women aren't traditional.
Women don't uphold any of their own duties when it comes to chivalry.
So we're not expecting women to be chivalrous towards us.
But should you have a low body count?
Should you dress modestly?
Should you be traditional?
Yes.
So y'all are modern women, but you want men to be traditional.
We have a sex worker here.
She says she wants guys, she's submissive.
That's great.
Cook, clean.
I don't really like the label sex worker.
That makes me sound like a prostitute, which I do not think I am.
OnlyFans girls are sex workers.
I mean, I'm not saying that you're on the street offering up pussy for 50% of the time.
To me, like sex worker is really vulgar, but.
It is within the umbrella of sex work.
I'm not calling you a prostitute.
I'm calling you a sex worker.
Okay, well, your other guy called me a prostitute.
Well, he has a different position on this.
But look, just one thing.
How can it be, like, y'all want men to be traditional?
Where are the traditional women?
But you are women who don't have traditional.
I'm not asking where they're at church.
They're at Charlie Kirk meetings.
I'm talking, there's a thousand classy younger women.
No, no, no, no.
Hold on.
I'm not literally.
It was a rhetorical question.
I'm not literally asking where are they geographically located.
I'm saying you have liberal, the most liberal, progressive, feminist women who still demand men act traditionally, pay for dates, do all this stuff, and y'all are modern women.
Why should men be traditional when y'all are modern?
Explain it.
I would say I'm pretty traditional, and therefore what about her?
So she's posting thirst traps on Instagram.
She dresses revealing.
I'm not going to make a criticism of that.
Okay.
But it is what it is.
That is not traditional.
Yeah.
It's not traditional.
Then why should you demand traditional treatment from men?
I mean, maybe she doesn't demand it, but look, she just has men who want to do that for her.
She manifests it.
So we're not asking men to do it, but it's just like, you know, it's she likes it.
So I agree with you that women, because men do what works.
And so paying for your meal, that's better than going 50-50.
Like, that's just optically better.
I agree with you that men still do this shit.
Men will still be traditional because women respond to it and women still want it despite all the feminist programming that all of y'all have received.
All the feminism, all the liberalism, all of modernity.
You want to live your, you want to be the most modern women possible.
But you still, because it's the natural order of things, you like men to be traditional.
You like it.
You respond to it.
Even on an intellectual level, you're like, nah, I don't care about that shit.
If a guy pays, if a guy's a leader, if a guy's assertive, if he's a lead, all these, all these positive, traditional masculine characteristics, you still want it, but you're not holding up your end of the bargain.
Now, you still get it because men are pressed for pussy.
Men still want to fuck you.
But when it comes to commitment and relationship, like relationship, long-term commitment, men start to just keep you around for sex.
Yeah, and I agree that women should, if they want those things, then they should be what they're not.
I get men still give it to you.
You could be.
We've had literal prostitutes on the show.
They're like, I want men to pay and they still do it.
There's no reason.
Like you select people with OnlyFans.
You select.
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Raise your hand if you have OnlyFans here.
Oh, yeah, of course not.
But you still have to.
Raise your hand if you have OnlyFans here.
So one, two, three, four, five, six, seven women who don't have OnlyFans.
We got only one.
So how would it be me selecting?
The majority of our guests don't have OnlyFans.
Yeah, that's valid.
But I'm just saying like you do select a couple just to have them on and you guys do like to talk about it.
And that was one of the first conversations.
Make an actual argument though.
What does it mean?
It's not an argument.
It's just like just an observation.
It is something easy to talk about and easy and something that should be talked about because it's a hot topic.
Well, if she's in the minority of the group of us that's here for what she does for work and this example that you're giving is using someone who is in OnlyFans, then like that kind of goes against what it is you're trying to do anyway.
Well, so I'll address that.
Let me address that.
So categorically, that's not what I'm doing at all.
I'm just pointing to the most obvious.
I think one of the least traditional things a woman could do is sex work.
If you're a prostitute and you want to go marry some super trad guy, maybe you get it, maybe you don't.
I don't think that's a fair deal though.
But my greater point is, is that, and by the way, the criticisms, if you miss some of them, it's not just women who do OnlyFans.
And I acknowledge there's only one woman who does OnlyFans here.
It was, she dresses revealing.
Is anybody here a virgin?
No?
So it's like, how about this?
Should women be virgins?
I was a virgin for a long time.
I heard the record.
I had friends sleeping around in junior high.
What the fuck?
Truly.
Yeah, I know that happens.
I think it's better than sleeping around unless you really like somebody and love them.
But it's just, you know, everyone's just different.
You got like so much things on the internet influencing young people who are easily influenced.
Like, I don't know how you got into OnlyFans and you want to quit, but you see the money.
Like, you think it's easy?
Like, it's just.
I really want to.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
I really wanted to say that, you know, you're kind of saying you can be either traditional or modern.
And I think that you can do both.
I mean, like, traditional, it's like all of us should be virgins because we're not married.
So it's like you guys are all modern in a sense.
Maybe you have like, I think it's a mixture because I'm not fully like modern.
I definitely have like, I, um, I don't know.
No, so look, I'll agree with you there.
So I don't think it's 100% black or white when it comes to being traditional.
So, like, I'm not 100% all the way on the traditional side myself, right?
But I think it's more so to do with women's entitlement and expectations of men's behavior.
So you want your cake and to eat it too.
It's like you dress revealing, promiscuous, involved in sex work.
You are boss babes, career-oriented, all these things.
But you want men to uphold to their traditional gender roles.
So it'd be fair to me if it's like, okay, a woman, she's just modern woman.
She's like, yeah, the guy can just not really lead me and we can be 50-50 on decisions and in the relationship.
And I'll pick where to have lunch and we'll split the bills 50-50.
Exactly.
Isn't that like a very modern take?
Well, what I'm saying is, if you're a woman, like it's just weird.
You guys want to make demands of men, be traditional, be a leader, take initiative.
I never made any demands on men.
I just attract guys that want to pay for me.
And the only thing that I said the whole podcast that was a demand of a man was if you ask me on a date that you should pay.
So I don't make demands on men.
Okay, so if you're on a date with a guy and he, the check comes, the waiter comes with a check.
He says two checks.
Is there going to be a second date?
Yeah, it possibly could.
I would definitely not cut him off just because he did that.
I wouldn't.
I have enough money to pay for it.
And if I really like him, I totally would go on another date.
I just never experienced that, but it would not be like it.
Sure.
Yeah.
So look, many of you women, you've just completely forsaken, abandoned, and cast aside any and all of your traditional gender roles.
Yet with quite a bit of entitlement, you expect men to adhere to our traditional gender roles.
If men are to be chivalrous, what are women to be or to do?
Date one man at a time.
Okay.
I mean, isn't that what it is?
It's all about.
But what do men get?
Well, what do men get in return for being chivalrous?
Aren't you starting to build the foundation on a relationship when you go out?
I don't know a woman that wants to spend time with the man that she's not interested in.
And you'll find that out within the first date.
And I also think that if you get to know somebody over the phone or whatever first, you can eliminate 90% of your compatibility.
Just even see if you want to go to lunch.
Yeah, but that's not really addressing my argument.
What do men get for being chivalrous?
A petition.
They get a feminine entering partner.
Yeah.
Okay, but how about can a man be a loving and caring partner without being chivalrous?
No, because he's the leader of the relationship.
He's the one that asked to get married.
Sure, but what about you?
I don't think so.
So men need to do X, Y, Z on top of all these sort of mutual expectations.
So I'm sure like we don't have to do it.
Like we may have to do that.
We should want to do it.
Who made that?
Okay, women should want to be modest virgins that cook.
And then you find those women and then you're going to be so happy to get them and are submissive and defer to men's leadership.
And you'll find men who lead.
But there are women that are like that.
Hold on.
But should women be.
Okay, let me ask you.
Should men be leaders?
Show of hands.
Yes.
Men should be leaders.
Yes.
Okay.
Should women be followers?
If they don't lead independently, wait, hold on.
Hold on.
Men should be leaders.
Women should be followers.
So to you, my question is, if you're in a relationship with a guy and he says, I don't like how you're dressing.
I love you, babe, but I don't like how you dress.
I want you to change.
I want to stay with you, but I need you to stop posting these photos on Instagram.
I want you to dress more modestly.
You don't got to wear a burqa, but maybe, you know, don't dress like that.
If I'm in a committed relationship, I've been in that situation and I've, that's happened.
So, yeah.
Well, the guy said it, but did you change?
I did.
It's just the right guy.
Like, obviously, we.
Did you argue with him for like three months about it?
No, I didn't argue.
So instantly, you're just like, you know what, babe?
It's just respect for your partner.
I didn't say that you're right.
I said, I may not agree, but if it makes you feel respected, I'll do it.
I don't think it's like that big of a deal.
Or like, it doesn't change you as a person if like you have clothes on or like less clothes.
It's not that big of a difference of like who you are.
And like I said, like you said, like I've been in a situation before I did OnlyFans where a guy did not want me to dress like provocative or post online and I didn't.
And I didn't have a problem with that.
I had a guy that wanted me to just wear dresses.
I couldn't wear pants and I did it.
And you know what?
It was fun.
It's 12 o'clock.
Well, we're going to try to get this.
I'm pretty much almost hopefully almost wrapped up.
I'm done with the questionnaire.
There's a few more notes and then we'll get this all wrapped up here.
I think I'm, I mean, do you think women should be submissive?
If they want to.
They want a traditional man.
They want to.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's like if they want to, if they want a traditional man, like you said, it's a vice versa.
If you want a traditional man, pretty much you're, oh, if you want a submissive man, pretty much you're probably a submissive.
Well, you know what's interesting on this is that, so women were submissive to their husbands, but all of you have essentially traded that to be submissive to an employer.
Well, yeah, I have the word.
Yeah, I know I'm.
Yeah, but I think an employer is going to ask way more of you than your husband.
Yeah, like I work because I need money to, and I'm not going to expect a man to like do it for me unless like I'm married to them and stuff.
So are you mine just not going to work?
Like what exactly?
I think we need to play the bow video.
Mary, can you play the bow video?
It's one of the tabs.
It's one of the earlier tabs.
It's the Asian woman who bows.
It's my ex-girlfriend.
It's in.
You have it?
We're going to, and for that, we'll just do window tab.
We don't need to do video on it.
You have it?
All right.
Hold on.
Let me hide this.
So this is.
This is actually your ex-girlfriend.
This is my ex-girlfriend.
Yeah.
All right.
Go ahead, play it.
Boom.
So this is my expectation.
She has to greet me with a bow when I get home.
It's disrespectful.
You just threw that.
Oh, you know, no, that's.
Okay, this is just like you got to watch the rest, though.
You missed the other thing that I threw.
So I just got home from a long day of podcasting, and it was rough.
She's just here, beer ready to go, meal ready to go.
The tomatoes were disgusting, though.
I had to scold her.
Just tomatoes, just like that.
And then play it one more time.
Play just the bow.
You did not date this person.
Boom.
Did you see the fucking bow?
That's that's my expectation.
I think.
So when I get home to my spot, I need a girl.
And she can be white.
It's not just an Asian thing.
Like, she could be Latina.
She could be black.
Would you bow to your man?
Would you do that?
Yeah.
I do that.
Okay, I don't do it.
That's kind of racist.
What do you mean?
Never mind.
I just, I mean, I do things.
I wait for him at the door.
I mean, when I wasn't working a lot and I had all the time in the world, I cooked all the time for him.
And it's generally things I like to do.
I wait for him when he gets home.
And he's all he gets happy and that makes me happy.
You know what I mean?
Would you bow?
Yeah.
Yeah, I would love to.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, really?
It's just a gesture.
I'm not going to like be on my knees, but like, you know.
Okay, why not?
Okay.
Yeah, I would.
Would you hit a bow?
I'm into humor.
I think it'd be hysterical.
My man honestly does it too.
Okay, what about you?
Both.
I don't bow, but I do kiss him when he comes home.
Yeah, like just.
But if he wanted to bow, would you do it?
That'd be kind of weird because he's Korean, you know.
I don't even translate very well, I feel.
Would you hit a bow?
No.
No?
Why not?
No.
You don't think it's like funny into the mic.
I don't think it's funny.
No, I'm not doing that.
Why not?
Because I'm not doing that.
That's like humiliating.
Why is that humiliating?
Because why would you want me to do that?
Respect, it shows respect.
There's just so many other things that I could do for you.
You want me to bow?
Yeah, he wants you to do that.
How's it disrespectful?
Well, he like does.
Wait, let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
You know that whole, this is a chivalry thing.
Do you want the man to walk on the closer to the street?
On the outside.
Yeah, so you walk closer to the.
I walk on the inside.
I always get confused inside, outside.
What is it?
But you want him to walk closer to where the cars are.
The outside, yeah.
Why?
Explain it to me.
To protect me.
In case of what?
We get attacked.
Attacked?
Why would you being like an assalin or a car or something?
Okay, so, but the car could be, you're not being attacked, but the car, the driver loses control.
He's closer to it.
He can do what?
React.
But he can take the hit from the car while saving you, protecting you.
Yeah.
Wow.
So just to be clear.
And wait.
Show of hands.
The other women, do you want as an act of chivalry, a show of chivalry, for the guy to walk closer to where the cars are on the sidewalk when you're walking with him?
I don't expect it, but it's nice when people do it.
Right.
But you do realize the entailment of this is essentially saying, I want a guy.
And would you want on the first date a guy to do that?
Yeah, for sure.
Absolutely.
Okay.
So the entailment here is you want a guy to literally die for you.
You want men to die for you, but you won't do a completely benign, effortless, how's it extreme?
I just feel like how's it extreme?
No, no, no.
You're the extreme one.
You're the extreme one.
The big on the like the probability that like something like that is actually going to happen like let's get real.
It's because if we go back to tradition and stuff and you want to feel safe around someone and also I was raised by my dad and he used to open the door for me all the time and I have brothers and I don't take out the trash and there's certain shit I don't do as a woman and it just is what it is but this is what I'm getting that doesn't have to be the case for everybody else but I grew up with a strong male presence and they do things for me because I'm a woman and I like it.
What do men get?
They get kisses after doing what do men get out of this arrangement.
Don't you like really useful?
What do, yes, what do men get from women?
They give our attention.
Men get so much power from being around women.
But what do you do?
What do women do?
What do women do?
Why do you need to get something in return?
Why you don't need, why can you just give yourself?
Why can't women just give themselves?
Why do you need men to pay for first dates?
Why do you need men to be protectors?
Why do you need men to be provided?
Why can't you just be happy with a 5'4 guy who lives in his mom's basement and eats Doritos all day?
That's crazy.
Why can't I can chill what I You guys, what do men get out of the arrangement?
They get what they want.
They get a romance.
A safe space.
They give that back to you.
No, but they get what they want.
Like, they're in a relationship for a reason.
They can leave if they don't want to be there.
Sure, I know.
I'm analyzing this from a bird's eye view.
Yeah, but privilege is invisible to those who have it.
So in this case, what do men get if they have to sacrifice, potentially sacrifice their life for you?
Well, I'm giving what I want.
Do men spending really?
So do you have any kids?
If he's ready?
I don't get this argument.
Well, women one day down the road potentially will have children.
How many of no woman here has any children?
You guys have collectively probably dealt with hundreds of men in total.
Maybe you didn't sleep with all of them.
You've dated hundreds of men.
You haven't produced one child.
You received the benefits of male providing and male protection.
None of you have given a single man a child.
So this idea that, well, one day the women will get, okay, I've dated women.
No.
Is that like, obviously you're going to have a children down the line, but it's just, are you guys ready for it?
Yeah, but this idea, okay, look, this idea that men should pay for first dates, men should do chivalry, men should do tradition because women have children.
Not one.
You dated all these men who did the providing and paying for dates.
You didn't give them a child.
So this idea that men should pay for first dates because child, you didn't give the man a child.
But you're going to receive the benefit.
I doubt most men are ready for children like that right away.
You give them.
Yeah, like you said, you're not having a, you didn't have a child with your wife, right?
I mean, not wife, your girlfriend.
But you got all the other benefits.
You came home and you were tired.
She cooked for you.
She waited for you.
She gave you bad things.
Because you had an apartment.
I took, that was all me.
Yeah, but that's why you deserve a girl.
I took care of it.
And you got a traditional woman because you did the traditional women.
I didn't dump her because she had fake titties, but that's another conversation.
That's like, so you're all right now.
I don't really like that.
That's the point.
I like natural women, okay?
Natural body supremacists.
We're talking about the world right now.
You provided, you did what you did.
What do men get?
Did you not get what you wanted out of her of your life?
That was more traditional dynamic.
Exactly that.
That was a traditional dynamic.
That's because she gave me the bout.
She doesn't want to do the bout.
And you are dying.
I'm arguing with her.
I'm arguing that.
Should we argue about it?
You got what you want out of your girlfriend.
And that's because you provided what you needed.
She could have done more, by the way.
Okay, then you could have discussed her.
You could have discussed that with her.
She could have done more.
You could discuss that with her.
I just kind of wanted to do that.
I'm just saying a man who does what he does will get a woman who does.
Otherwise, men who seek women who can't do it for them, then leave.
But don't you realize how ridiculous it is for her to say, I want a man to all of y'all to say, I want a man to walk closer to the streets in case, hold on, let me finish.
In case a car comes tumbling, barreling towards me so that the man dies and the woman survives.
Because men are not drama.
That's what you said.
I'll drink.
Push my man out of the way.
It's like just like, okay, we're going to walk anyway, right?
So let's say you'd pick Darwin.
Like, I want her to walk.
I want the woman.
The woman should walk closer to the cars so that I'm protected.
Okay.
That's what you want, man.
She should die.
And also, with the bullet, I think a woman should take the bullet instead of me.
Okay, then you will find a woman that does sign your dream show.
I believe in you.
The woman should take the bullet.
Okay, she's out there.
She's going to die.
The point is, if you want a woman to do those things, you'll be that mad.
Yes.
Sigma male grind.
Okay, but do you not agree that you got what you need to do?
Can you not stroke the crystal, please?
It's very sauce.
I'm going out of the wipe and getting us out of here every time I get it.
Okay, you are getting sidetracked.
You molested my crystal.
I didn't know.
Okay, Judge.
Look that crystal deep in the eyes.
I am not.
Can you please just answer that?
Apologize to the crystal.
No, you want to say you got out.
You got to go.
Apologize to Becky.
Becky, no.
That's the name of the crystal.
I'm not going to apologize to a dumb crystal.
That was a crime, but go ahead.
Okay, but I'm just saying you got what you wanted out because you were a man who did what he needed to do.
Did you not get what you wanted out of your girlfriend?
Did she not do what you wanted to do?
She literally died.
She could have done more.
Okay, that's it.
She could have done more.
Well, she did.
That's the thing.
She did.
I don't know why you guys broke up.
Maybe lack of communication, whatever.
But the point is, you got what you wanted, and you were the man who provided what she needed.
That's a good dynamic.
That's right, but people lack that because you look for the wrong thing, stay with the wrong people.
Sure, people can get what they want.
Exactly.
But I'm telling you, this girl's saying, she's saying the bow is crazy.
That bow is crazy.
You're crazy, bro.
You want a guy to walk in the guy to walk closer to the cars so he dies.
Absolutely.
Dying.
I don't look at it like that.
I look at it and just like protect you.
You want a guy to take a bullet for you?
Like he jumps in front.
Like my Argentinian friend.
I'll jump in front.
My Argentinian friend here jumps in front of you.
I want to get us both out of the way.
I want him to be smart enough to do that.
All right, let's move on.
It's 12.
Yeah, are we going home?
No, we're almost done, though.
Yeah, we're done.
Look, it's not my fault.
She's been talking way too much.
That's all her fault.
Evelyn's been just, you've been yapping way too much tonight.
Can you just shut up a little bit?
Can you just be quiet?
That's everything, no?
Yeah.
Almost, there's a few more things, okay?
A few more things.
I'm trying to remember.
Do we have more champagne at least?
We said a lot more tequila shot.
Look, I'm getting there.
We got to get out of here, dude.
I'm getting there.
I'm going to go like the hostage right now.
I don't like it.
Just wait.
Calm down.
Calm down.
A couple hours ago, I was feeling dry.
So, okay, here we go.
I'm finishing up the show notes, folks.
Let's see here.
Why do men?
Yeah, why do men automatically have duties towards women while women have?
Yeah, women don't have any duties in society.
Men don't even do it for every woman.
Men have duties.
Women don't have duties.
They don't have to do it.
Oh, make me a sandwich, which is really cool.
Oh.
Okay, here.
A couple final things here.
Wait, guys, can you test out in Streamlabs $30 roast session?
Can you get somebody to test out a $30 TTS?
We'll let it come through as a roast.
Do you think it's probably?
Do you guys think men are insecure?
Teresa, you think men who care about body counts are insecure?
Why is that?
The past is the past, and that shouldn't affect your interaction or relationship with a and then, Amanda, you also said men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count.
Yes, they did.
Okay, cool.
So, what is your body count starting with you?
Five.
Five.
That's none of your business.
Wait, I thought body count didn't matter.
I mean, I'm not about to say it on here.
Do you want to do a range?
No.
Is it between like 50 and 100?
No.
It's kind of insecure of you to not share your body count.
I'm not sharing that on here.
It's very controlling.
What's your body count?
I'm a virgin zero.
I've never been with a woman.
Body count?
I don't want to share that.
I thought it doesn't.
I thought it doesn't matter.
Give us a range.
Give us a range.
Five to ten.
Five to ten?
Yeah.
You're a fucking liar.
You're a fucking liar.
Okay.
Body count?
I'm 24 and I had two.
24 and two.
Okay.
Body count?
I don't know.
Range?
I don't really know.
You forgot?
Yeah, no, I really don't care, so I really don't count.
So I really don't know.
Hey.
Hey.
Oh, my God.
Chill, bro.
Hey, chill.
So you forgot?
I just, I don't know.
I don't know the answer.
Well, for example, if it was like three, you'd be like, okay, there was Bob.
It's definitely not three.
And Bartholomew.
Bartholomew.
Okay, so is it over 50?
Maybe.
Yeah.
Over 100?
No, definitely not.
I don't think so.
By the way, I'm not going to like insult you or judge you.
No, I mean, I was single for a while.
I'm going to keep a blank face to all your answers.
What's that?
I was single for a very long time.
And all I have to say is I'm very blessed that I get to have sex when I want to have sex.
You what?
I'm very blessed that I've gotten to have sex when I want to have sex.
So all the time.
Huh?
You can interpret it as you'd like.
Okay.
Body count?
I'll never tell.
Never.
That's nobody's business.
We're homies, right?
No, we're homie.
Nolly, we had a good.
And you know what?
Anybody that I go out with.
Into my colleague, my dear.
That asks me.
Yes.
I'm never telling.
I feel like I should help.
Do you want to do range?
No.
Why not?
Absolutely.
Is it over 100?
I had this guy convinced I was a virgin, and it was bitching.
You lied?
No, I didn't lie.
He kept guessing, and then he's started guessing that I was a virgin.
And I'm going, this is just entertainment to watch him twist and turn and try and figure out.
How old were you when you lost your virginity?
I am never going to tell.
Wait, come on.
That's fair.
It's none of your business.
Here, I'll tell you.
I was 17 when I lost my virginity.
Wow.
Shit, ask.
Let's just move on.
Chill out.
Chill out, lady.
Come on.
Yeah.
Less than 10.
Ah, maybe, because you don't want to say virginity.
Yeah, no, I'm not saying.
Six.
Six.
Wait, so you're not going to share?
No.
Why not?
Well, because I don't want to.
Okay, well, whatever it is.
Multiply it by three.
That's the real number.
For everybody.
Y'all liars.
Come on.
Got some liars here.
That's crazy.
Hold on.
You're a fucking liar.
You're a fucking liar.
Y'all want traditional men, but y'all got double, triple-digit body counts.
Let's not say all of it.
That's not true.
Not all of you.
That's the hard thing about the podcast that you say all.
And it's just like every time.
It's just like, oh, but, you know.
You say all.
Not all of you.
Yes, but it's just.
Well, probably most of you.
You just have such a big bone to pick with women.
Yeah.
I guess you're not going to be able to get fiery.
I don't know.
I would love to understand where passion comes from.
This isn't really.
This isn't really passion.
You want to see passion?
Trust me.
There's been moments of passion.
Okay.
I'm just saying, what's you guys are lying about your body count?
Why do you feel that way?
Well, people are, you're not revealing it.
No, I really don't know.
I really don't know.
Right, which means you lost count.
No, what about you?
We're counting.
No, I don't reveal that.
No, it's like, how many people have you kissed?
Like, you're in your life.
How many people have you kissed?
Well, you wouldn't know.
Tell me how many people kissed.
Oh, like, why didn't you count it?
I'm not going to say the number, but I could.
Yeah, I could say it's over this much.
Okay.
And then let's move on.
Bro, chill out.
It's on your podcast.
Stop being a little bossy, bossy.
I have a boyfriend waiting for me.
Like, literally, I feel bad.
I've been up since 2014.
Oh, my God.
And I have to work at 360.
We've got a group here of people who stay up late partying.
I do not party at all.
I sleep at late.
I'm 24.
You're 24.
It's 12.
And I never know.
But it's past midnight.
I've never been up past midnight before.
I'm going to turn into the.
Yeah, I'm worried about my boyfriend.
He has to drive to San Diego.
Be patient, my dear.
Patience is a virtue.
It's like nothing.
Here, give us a range.
Give us a guess.
A guess of what?
Body count.
For me?
Yeah.
Built chamberlain.
The thing it gets kind of crazy, and I hate to talk about this, but so when you're manic, you literally, another really awful symptom is that you get very promiscuous when you're manic.
I pray.
And then also, like, you literally, like, I black, there's like months of my life that I just don't remember.
So it's like, I really don't know.
Like, I don't know.
You forgot some.
But of the ones you remember, you know?
I won't hold you to the forgotten ones.
Because you're remote.
You don't like orgasm doesn't really count, right?
Oh, my.
Like, that's like a real thing, though.
I think intercourse just counts.
Yeah, I agree with you on that.
If what?
If you just have like sexual relations, it just counts.
Like, oh, I don't think you have the orgasm for it to be.
Just count a tip.
Just for a second, just to see how it feels.
Just the tip.
That's a body.
Yeah, I really, no, I really don't know.
Like, I will both miss it.
How many shits have you taken in your life?
You know, like, damn.
You don't know.
I mean, you could probably calculate it.
You don't count.
Like, it's like, okay, how many days have I been live?
Let's just say it's one per day.
Well, easy.
Fucking maths.
Quick maths.
Stop it.
Get some help.
All right.
You guys are ready.
Get some help.
Base, thoughtonated $30.
All right, so this is working.
Chair five, large march 62.
Just give up already as Kevin Samuel says, goodwill/slash salvation army.
Chair seven, if you're a ten-tenths, why do you wear makeup then?
Confidence of mid-girls is a little bit more.
Bro, I've never been on the whatever podcast.
What are you talking about?
Chair one is for my past.
Chair one, dressy tank top.
Take your makeup off, guys.
Take your makeup off.
We do this as a segment at the end of the show.
Really?
No way.
Really?
Everybody, take it off.
I'm out.
I'm down.
Okay, listen.
Take it off.
You're going to take it off, Teresa.
Teresa's a legend.
I need to go to bed and take my makeup off.
Why am I the legend?
What I do.
You're a legend.
I don't know.
Can't you accept the compliment?
Thank you.
I think this person is mistaken for another eight.
I've never been on the whatever.
Yeah, crack the door open.
Crack the door open.
Thank you for the message there.
All right, there.
Once you guys are done, I want you guys to hold it up to the camera so we see the damage.
Wow.
So funny.
All right, guys.
Let's see.
Okay, I'm just going to blast through these notes.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my goodness.
I'm going to have to do a quick cultural differences.
Yeah, because you said you were single your entire 20s living in San Diego and you were working in the cannabis and nightclub industry while holding your single your entire 20s and you're 36 now.
Well, I was like single like 21 to like 28 or 27, something like that.
All right, hold, hold it up.
Are you guys done?
Hold it up.
This side, hold it up.
Hold it.
No, they're still working.
Okay, we'll come to this side.
Hold it up.
Oh, boy.
I mean, you guys left a little bit of makeup on.
That's not really fair.
Oh, wow.
That's a little red lipstick.
Wow, that's damn.
Whoa.
Cool.
Congrats, guys.
Well, yeah, I mean, I was a little wild in my 20s.
I'm not going to lie.
Yeah.
What are you going to do?
But I also had a corporate diversity.
You had a threesome?
No.
Forsome?
I've had more than the foursome?
No.
No.
I'm like, you know, just good at the basics.
That's cool.
So you said you think men have the capacity to love more than women.
You're a masculine man advocate.
Yeah.
Eva, Ava, whatever it is, calm down.
Calm your calm.
She's sleepy.
But yeah, I do think that when men fall in love, they fall in love harder than women are capable of falling in love.
You said you think men are better fit for corporate leadership?
Yeah, yeah.
I have a whole theory on that.
Do the girls here agree?
Are men better leaders?
I guess so.
Yeah.
Because we are emotionally different throughout the month.
Wow, that's really sexist.
It's not.
It's not.
Me personally, as a male feminist, I think women are great leaders.
This is how it is.
We all flexuate the women's family.
I can't believe it's a cause, but it is.
I can't believe I'm at a table.
I can't believe I'm at a table with all these misogynists.
I was so you are a misogynist.
I am.
This is disgusting.
You're right.
As a male feminist, women are just as good leaders as men.
It's despicable that you would even say that.
I want you to look deep into this camp right here.
Apologize to women.
I'm not going to apologize to random people.
No, apologize to women.
They're not random people.
Say sorry to women.
It's a joke.
Guys, chill.
It's a joke.
Well, here's what's crazy, though.
Y'all women, I already said it.
God damn, I'm repeating myself.
Y'all want, when it comes to dating, you want leaders, but you don't want to be followers.
That's not true.
That's true.
I think we all said that we would be okay.
Yeah, so please just do it, but she doesn't want to bow.
Okay, just one person.
Oh, can we just like?
Oh, my goodness.
Can I tell you why I think that men are better corporate leaders real quick?
Sure.
Okay, so men know when they're not the leader.
So they function in hierarchies like way better.
They know the alpha.
Okay, I fall in line.
Where women think that they're all the queens.
I don't think so.
They don't like to fall, like, they don't like to follow people.
Well, you said you think women are powerful and need more to take the responsibility to the species seriously?
Yeah.
Wait, I need to get up just super quick, but won't you back and forth with the girls real quick?
So I think, you know, there's this thing and his name is God, and God's like, I'm going to create two entities that are going to continue the species forever.
And then they're like, who are we going to give the responsibility to to carry the species?
And they're like, the woman.
So inherently, the woman is very powerful.
And I think that a lot of women think that there's male privilege and all these things, but in a really fundamental concept, we are very powerful.
wars are started because of women um like we or have the responsibility for the species and i mean sex appeal you know that's that's power Like, even when you go to a strip club, I feel like that's a very powerful place in a lot of ways.
Like, you have people that work so hard for their money and then they just give it to a woman because they're pretty because they're just sitting there.
You know, like that's a type of power.
And I think I get sad when I see a lot of like younger women that don't even realize that they have this power.
And I think that that's not good.
So wars are fought for women, too.
Like it's like they would go to war.
And like also, like, we need to be nice to men.
I think modern feminism is very toxic.
And like men are really good.
They've done a lot of really good things.
Like everything around us that's like crazy good is literally was orchestrated by men.
And I do think that they are better leaders.
We have a lot of things that are really good for us.
Like we are empathetic.
You know, we're not going to sit there and tell everyone like when Andrew was saying, why are you not saying that someone's blah, blah, blah, rating or whatever?
It's like, yeah, we have emotions.
We are, you know, emotionally intelligent and stuff like that.
But I do think that women have a lot of power.
And in like the toxic femininity, they try to take that away.
That was beautiful.
I didn't hear any of it because I was gone, but it sounded like that little and part was really good.
Okay.
You said there's four categories of men you want to date.
You must put each guy in one of those categories.
Yeah.
So.
Bro, we're getting through all the notes.
We're getting through all the notes.
Everybody sent in notes.
That's the fair rule to do.
We got it.
Look, it's not my fault.
You guys.
It's not my fault.
You guys were so amazing.
You guys were so amazing.
So good that we're going long because you guys are just have, you know.
So the crux of that is essentially every type of relationship has to do with expectations.
Are you finding the photo of the pillow guy?
Oh, you want to see it?
Not really.
We're allowed to have our phones.
No, I don't know where she got that.
She snuck that shit.
Why didn't anybody tell me she snuck that shit?
Here it is.
Okay.
But nobody else.
Here, show that after the show, though.
We can't display it.
We can't display anything on stream.
Okay.
Really quick, four categories.
Tell me what they are.
So there's fuckboy, lover, boyfriend, husband.
And each one of them has expectations that you need to understand.
And as long as you understand those expectations, then you can function and not get hurt.
Same thing for women, I guess, right?
Are you like role-playing the gynecologist's office right now, or what's going on?
Because I'm not sure.
Because that was a crazy spread with your legs right there.
That was like.
I'm just sitting here.
Do you need to go to the OBGYN or what's up?
No, I'm just tired and I feel comfortable.
I'm just trying to get comfortable right now.
I feel fucking delusional right now.
I'm so tired.
Yeah.
I just want to go home.
This is a struggle session.
This is a struggle session.
Okay, listen.
This is where champions are fucking made, boys.
This is where champions are fucking made.
Hold on, let me play the game.
I just want to talk to my man.
That's it.
I thought talking stage, but whatever.
Listen, this is this is the hold on pep talk here.
Okay, this is the second lady.
This is chill up.
This is the fucking final inning, boys.
Ladies, ladies, this is the, okay.
Gentle ladies, this is the fucking final inning here.
This is where champions are made.
This is where, this is where legends are made.
Okay.
This is what it's all come down to.
This moment, right here.
I feel like I'm in those like shows.
Right here, right now.
This is the championship rounds.
Okay.
12 p.m. past midnight.
This is the championship rounds.
This is, this is iron sharpens iron.
I get it.
Iron sharpens iron.
And together, we will come out of this stronger, sexier, more sleigh, or whatever the fuck you guys say.
Slay queen.
You just want to sit around.
You don't want to go.
No, I want to, trust me.
I want to lay down and ice my back.
So, yeah, I have to say that.
Going to you, final note from you.
You said you think y'all are too smart for many of these girls.
I want to come on the show to show a different side of women.
I mean, I think that, you know, I'm not that smart.
You're not smart.
Oh.
Yeah, I don't think so.
I don't know.
I just think that it's good to have different types of perspectives on here.
Did I get it right?
Well, yeah.
Ava.
Eva, yes.
Okay.
Eva, Ava.
What's wrong?
Yes.
What's wrong?
Go ahead.
You were even listening to her.
I was listening.
I don't know.
I just, I was happy to come on here to try to talk on you.
Thank you for coming.
Appreciate it.
Moving to J Nicole.
Yes.
Did I say right?
You did.
You're welcome.
You describe yourself on Instagram as a party princess.
Oh.
What does that mean?
Well, because I'm a DJ and a producer.
You know, I curate the vibes.
I curate, you know, the atmosphere.
So I am a party princess.
Yeah.
And I'm going to make sure you're going to be able to do it.
Teresa, get in the game.
Look at me.
Look at me deep in my eyes, Teresa.
Get in the game.
That's why he's the other thing.
That's why he's the goat.
You're the goat, Teresa.
You're the fucking goat.
You're the goat.
Okay?
I want you to say that you're the goat.
I'm the goat.
There you go.
Thank you, Teresa.
That's great.
Jay Nicolay.
Yeah.
When it comes to modern dating, you honestly wish the conversation about 50-50 would just cease to exist.
Lol.
In the current state of our economy, dating is not the one-size-fits-all type of situation.
So what works for some will not always work for others, and that's completely okay.
So when you say, wish the conversation about 50-50 would just cease to exist, do you?
I say that because you're like in favor of it or agreeable.
Like, I personally, I'm not like a 50-50 person, like across the board.
Like, some people like go half on every bill, like every single thing.
Like, I'm, that's just not what I partake in.
Um, and I just feel like online, you go online and people ask, like, oh, should 50-50 be a thing?
But it's like, you're asking, like, millions of people.
It's like, what works for you will not work for others.
And that's completely okay because people get entire deep arguments and deep dives about why 50-50 is good and why 50-50 is bad.
But it's like, you're not even the same tax bracket.
Why are you arguing with this person?
Okay.
Yeah.
Amanda, moving to Amanda's notes here.
On your Instagram, my goodness, here, I'm going to just put it in the chat because I don't even know what the hell this is.
This is her Instagram, lads.
This is her, not your Instagram, but your bio.
Oh, yeah.
This 27-degree Sagittarius, 0 degree Taurus, 29 degrees Aquarius, astrology expert, guided messages, lamb in wolves clothing.
Yes.
So you're a sheep.
I'm a lamb.
In wolves' clothing.
Yes.
But the saying is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
No, I look like maybe I wouldn't be very into God and like you are Christian.
I'm not Christian.
Which God do you believe in?
I believe in mine.
Which is, what is his name?
Which is my God.
God.
Which I go to church and I read the Bible.
Which church do you go to?
I'll go to Christian churches sometimes, but I don't consider myself Christian.
But I do pray.
To Jesus?
Yeah, I talk to Jesus.
Is that your God?
My God is God.
Jesus is not God.
Jesus is God.
Jesus is Lord.
But God is God.
Andrews.
God is always just God.
Okay.
Andrew's the religion guy.
I don't get the.
What is the Sagittarius Aquarius stuff?
What is that?
It's just my birth chart because I'm also an astrologer and I read tarot cards.
So that's like my other business.
You want a Snickers?
You're not yourself when you're hungry.
You want a Snickers?
What do you need?
Snickers bar?
Snap into a Slim Jim.
You want to snap into a Slim Jim?
What you need?
Can we get her a popsicle?
Can we get her an applesauce?
No, I insist.
We just want to wrap it up, dude.
No, I'm really okay.
I'm really okay.
Oh, my God.
You guys just cannot.
This is why the wage gap.
This is why the wage gap exists.
Because you women said it would be from 4 to 11, you know.
Or it sometimes goes later.
Oh, yeah.
Did I say that?
You're not a man of your word.
Did you say that?
No.
If it says may go later.
Like two hours over is like insane.
Hey, that's how it is.
Or.
Wait, can I have it?
Somebody wants it.
She wants it.
Wait, you want it?
Hey, give it to her.
Give one to her.
No, you take that one.
You work on that one.
Okay.
So, do you need some food?
I can get you some food.
I mean, we've been needing food.
I think she wants a popsicle too, though.
Yeah.
Get her a popsicle.
Yeah, can we get her some applesauce?
Get her some applesauce.
You want what I want?
I want my boyfriend here.
Another one.
I love one too.
Otherwise, how many got in there?
Break it out.
We might be able to.
Should we get the boy?
No, no, chat.
Yo, funny.
He's so great.
He has a great sense of humor and he has a lot of things.
Oh, wait, wait, you guys want to go home, though.
Yes, please.
That's really good.
I'm not sorry.
I'm trying to get these people out of here, and you're trying to like hang out.
I feel sorry.
Now she's getting her second wind in here.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Such a good person.
But it's just like, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
I got oh my name.
It's just look, is it past your bedtime?
Is your bedtime?
It's past your bedtime.
Look, my dog.
This is again, this is why the wage gap exists.
This is because men, we're gonna be at fucking 3 a.m.
You know what?
I don't care if my boyfriend wasn't waiting for me.
We have to drive to Santa Cruz to like me and my family members.
It was up on the world, which is why I'm going.
You know, if you keep asking me, if you just let me get through it, just let me get through it.
Let me get through.
I feel it's going to be quick.
I feel it's going to be quick if you guys just let me get through it.
Sounds good.
I feel it's going to be quick.
Tell us how you really feel.
Listen, this is the final inning.
Okay, this is countdown.
Teresa.
Stop the show.
Please, Teresa.
Please.
Baby girl.
Boo.
Teresa, you're the goat.
Boo.
Hang on.
Sorry.
I should never.
We're in this together, okay?
We can do this.
Teresa, we're in this.
Let's finish your notes.
Yeah, come on.
Whoa.
Please.
You have a great voice, Teresa.
Please.
Oh, my God.
Hold on.
Okay, Amanda.
You said you met a guy on Hinge during the pandemic.
You ended up selling everything in your apartment and driving to New York with him.
Yeah.
But then what happened?
We split when we got there.
Oh, wait.
Wrong one.
My bad.
Damn.
So you like, who broke up with who?
I broke up with him.
I left him in the Airbnb.
And then I was in the middle of the day in the apartment.
I knew.
Oops.
Why?
I'm just not compatible.
She said, I'm a savage.
You're not compatible?
But did you find that out on the cart?
How long was the drive to New York?
It ended up being like 21 days because we like stayed in certain states for like a long period.
Oh, you okay?
So you can't.
You went from California then?
Yeah, I'm from California.
Okay, so that.
So was it the trip that just fucked you up?
Yes, absolutely.
I think that's fair, you know, because until you've traveled with somebody.
Oh, you don't know them.
Exactly.
Like, you got to travel with somebody first because they could be cool in doses, but you try, you spend like and then waiting in line for security at the airport.
All of that.
You got to see, you got to put them through the crucible or whatever.
I don't even think that makes sense.
You said men being more connected to their friends than their significant other, so like men are gay.
Is that what you're saying?
No, I feel like they, um, because sometimes they like and they'll want to spend more quality time with their friends.
It can be not all of them, but I have been in situations with I was dating men and it's like they're like, oh, I'm going to go like hang out with my guyfriend.
Like, so excited.
And then it's like when they come see me, they're like, oh, I'm depressed.
I see.
You said that you don't think people give dating enough time.
They move on before they get to know someone.
Yeah.
Have you had that experience where you had the most amazing night with a charming young mullet having boom mic operator?
Never.
Actually, I won't say never.
That's so weird.
She did have sex with a boom operator.
They didn't.
She did.
She told me about it before the show.
But then, so does that happen to you a lot?
Like you have sex and then they stop talking to you?
I mean, it's been a while since I've like randomly dated like that.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Like maybe like a few years ago.
How long have you been celibate?
I don't know since last summer.
Oh, okay.
So, your last your boyfriend or whatever.
Oh, no, you just never mind.
Okay, that's it for Amanda going to Eve.
Oh, Eve, you have a thousand Instagram posts on Instagram.
More.
More than a thousand.
I wrote a note here.
I don't know why.
If a girl has more than a thousand Instagram posts, she's probably insane.
Who said that?
I just made that up right now.
Is it true?
Are you insane?
Are you crazy?
I didn't say that.
You know, these Argentinian women.
Yeah, it's okay if you're insane.
They're very 1,000 posts is nothing.
I know people that had 10,000 or 5,000.
Like, I had 3,000 before.
I deleted the half.
Let me ask you girls a question.
If you see a guy's Instagram and he's got like a thousand posts and he's got, he's posting quotes and a bunch of selfies.
Then he's not your type, but he's that a little, you're a little scared then?
No, I would prefer for them to not have social media if possible.
Okay.
You said the you have social media though.
Yeah.
And you post quotes.
Yeah, my poetry.
Okay.
Eve, you said the craziest one that you remember is you met this guy.
He brought his mom.
Yeah, that's true.
To the first date.
What?
What?
Ain't no way.
So you're 36.
How old was he?
How old were you when this date took place?
We had the same age.
We met at the university.
When was this, though?
How old were you?
It was like seven years ago or so.
So you're 29?
Yeah, kind of.
And he was like 29, 30?
No, sorry, before like 26.
Okay, so a little bit.
26.
I mean, I don't think there's any age where it's like for an adult to bring their mom to a date.
That's where, but it was weird.
And the worst was that she was the center of attention of the night.
She was so cool.
Oh, she's cool.
You liked her.
At the end, you know, at the beginning, I was so in shock because I didn't expect him to come with his mom.
But at the end of the night, she was so cool.
And I like him.
We end up, I mean, we date like a few times.
She came a few times after again.
And after I never see him again, I just saw his mom a few times.
We partied together and it was so much fun.
Yeah.
And then I've never seen her again, too.
But it was fun.
So you that was it though?
Was there second date?
We have a few dates, but after.
Did the mom come or no?
Yeah, a few of some.
Yeah, the mom came.
Yeah.
I see.
Yo, Kat, thank you for the $100 soup chat.
No roast.
But I just wanted to drag this out longer.
Thank you, Kat.
For the super chat.
Michael Knight, bring the boyfriend in.
Michael wants to see this.
Is he a chat?
Is he a legend?
Is he a Chad?
A Giga?
Is he a Giga Chad?
Okay.
Michael Knight, thank you for the soup chat.
Appreciate it.
Okay, guys, if you want $100 reads.
So, okay, the mom on the first date, that's crazy.
Yeah.
Wow.
Was it in the US or was in Argentina?
Okay.
You said if the age difference counts when it comes to dating, are you talking about age gaps or?
No, like age, like someone has you are 30 and the other person has 60 or vice versa.
So that type of difference.
Oh, like a big gap.
Yeah, a big difference.
I mean, I was trying to date Teresa's mom earlier in the conversation.
So I mean that offer is still on the table.
Good.
Ain't no way you're being my stepdad.
Chicks of MILF.
That's crazy.
I would be a great stepdad, Teresa.
Go to your room.
You're grounded.
You're fucking grounded, Teresa.
That's drawing the title.
I could ground you, okay?
Oh, God.
Go to the room.
Go the room, do your dishes, stop posting.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
So that's it for Eve's notes.
We have Ava.
What's the other side?
Eva.
You know, you know what?
I actually, you want to hear a funny story.
You're going to like this.
You know how some people's names are so checked out.
The girls are so checked out.
Okay.
I'm with you right here.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
I'm Amy.
You're enjoying it.
Okay.
So here's the story of how I lost my dream girl.
I fucked it up.
I fucked up.
You fumbled your dream girl?
I fumbled my dream girl.
Wow.
Here's how.
So you know how some people have names that could be pronounced two different ways.
For example, I don't want to say the actual name, but should I say it?
Abro.
How about this?
I'll change it a little bit.
So T-A-R-A-H, Tara or Tara.
Which one is it?
I don't know.
It could be pronounced.
You know how there's names, like there's no defined way to necessarily, but it's got two potential pronunciations.
Can anybody think of a name that has two potential?
Andrea.
Yeah, there's like three for those: Andrea, Andrea, Andrea.
There's a lot.
So let's just say, yeah, Andrea.
So I was dating.
That's not the name, but and we just had sex for the first time.
And I was, no, no, no.
Here's the thing.
I was like, hey, I knew that I didn't like call her Gertrude.
I knew her name was A-N-D-R-E-A.
I knew that was it.
I just forgot the pronunciation.
So I so I asked her.
It's about 10 minutes after we had sex for the first time.
We're laying in bed.
I was like, hey, listen, how do you pronounce your name?
Is it Andrea or Andrea?
Like, I said it.
I didn't.
I wasn't like, oh, your name's Stephanie.
Your name's, is it Becky?
Why are you asking her this?
Are you guys like dating for the first time?
Are you guys dating for the first time?
What do you mean?
Because you said you were asking her how to pronounce her name.
So Felicity's tired, too.
What?
God damn, bro.
You like asked her name?
After we just had sex for the first time.
But you guys like knew each other, right?
It was like the second or third date.
And you didn't know how to pronounce her name?
No.
Hello?
I've been struggling with yours the entire night.
So dream, and she's up.
She gets upset.
She's like, wow, you were just inside of me and you don't remember my name.
And then, and then I never saw her again.
Like, I texted her.
I was like, hey, let's hang out.
And she's like, you know, the other night when you forgot how to pronounce, I didn't forget her name.
I forgot how to pronounce it.
Fumbled.
Fumbled.
And I'll just say this.
I'll say this.
She was the mouth that got away.
Oh, my God.
You can't ruin things with the right person.
So if it didn't work out, then that wasn't meant to be.
So what would you have done differently if that happened again?
Just never say her name ever.
I'll just from it.
That's the thing.
Maybe you, I'm sure there's been relationships where the dude or the girl doesn't know the dude's name.
And it's too, it's gotten to the point.
You guys have had that where you've like, it could, it's not even dating.
It could be a friend or somebody.
Yeah.
You never, and now it's too, you've known the person too long.
It's too weird.
Like their friend says it or something.
Yeah.
What I do is I'm like, I'll have a friend and I'm going to be like, okay, I'm going to introduce you.
I'm going to be like, oh, hey, or no, no, no.
I can't do it.
I'll be like, hey, introduce yourself so that they tell you the name.
I'd be like, how do you spell your name?
Let me put it in my phone.
How do you spell it?
But the pronunciation, you would have still been screwed.
Yeah, I fumbled.
It's very, it was really upsetting.
How did you recover?
Did you like at least treatment?
He made this podcast.
He never recovered.
Yeah, that's right.
That's a good point, Amanda.
That's what started this podcast.
I lost the love of my life because I fucked up her name.
And I was like, you know what?
I'm just going to argue with women for eight hours a week.
Yeah.
We all have to sell eight hours of the morning.
I fucking love it, boys.
But yeah, so, but no, I think I probably have been in a situation where I dated a girl and I just didn't know her name.
And then I just called her babe for like six months.
I swear, I called her babe for six months.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You do.
It was bad.
Okay.
So, Ava.
You're good.
You said you wanted to.
Do women have it easier than men?
Why or why not?
Did we talk about that?
I think we talked about that.
Yeah, we talked about that.
We talked about that.
What do you think, though?
Yeah, I just said no.
I think everyone has you also said, do you think women are hated more online than men?
Yes.
So like cyberbullying or that?
Just this thing, like, hey, you know, like the whole OnlyFans is easier money.
So that's why I think it's.
Why would that?
I don't think that's hateful.
I think it is hateful because it's easy money for them.
Because I think they get hated on that for a lot.
yeah but most women aren't doing oaf so you said of course but like of course i'm just saying online OnlyFans and Dominicans.
I don't know.
That's it.
I don't know.
I don't think I could definitively state whether men or women are hated more online.
Yeah.
But I actually probably think that men are hated more.
But we'll have to have that conversation another time.
You said your boyfriend has a crazy backstory as well.
And you guys kind of trauma bonded on it as friends before being in a relationship.
You told him you could never date him because of his current financial status.
Correct.
But when an influencer reached out to you, invited you to Texas, you went after breaking up with your ex, you realized personality is just more important than a lot of your needs.
Needs as in a man who's financially secure and has a job.
And substance is just much more important.
So wait, your boyfriend, like, did he originally like, hey, I'm interested in something more with you?
And then you're like, nah, you're broke.
But then.
He didn't have to say it.
Like, you kind of know as a girl, like, if a guy's interested in you.
And we hang out a lot.
And yeah, I really liked him as a person, but because of my first boyfriend, I didn't know.
I was like my first boyfriend around.
I was 18.
We dated for two years.
I didn't know, like, of course, you learn a lot from your first boyfriend, right?
First relationship in general.
And from that, I like took away a lot of things.
And I had like, okay, this and this.
Definitely yes, definitely no.
But then I do realize that personality just matters the most.
And if he's a good person with good morals, then can we get Chloe another popsicle, please?
She needs another popsicle.
You guys want him on?
Huh?
Maybe he'll feel better.
Waiting.
Okay, so you guys trauma bonded.
You said that.
By the way, I had to have chat GPT clean up the email you sent me, but it's okay.
You said that I won't read all of it, honestly, just for the sake of time, but you said you used to be really flirty when you were younger, around 14 to 16.
Correct.
I think were you on dating apps?
No, not at all.
It was, I was in New York at the time.
I didn't have much like family love or anything.
And I played a lot of sports.
And I think when you overcompensate for things you lack in childhood, I think I didn't get love, of course, as a child.
And I feel like a lot of times...
Nothing.
A lot of times, like, I think a lot of times when you're younger, that's kind of what happens to girls.
What's going on?
Huh?
But, yeah, that's, like, I think that's something a lot of, like, I don't know, girls go through when they're younger.
They just.
So you're, like, leading guys on is what you're saying?
Yeah.
Yeah, I was like 14.
You met your first boyfriend at the gym when you were 18.
You weren't physical.
You weren't physically attracted to him at first.
Correct.
But you think you were grateful for the attention and the support.
You loved him as a person, and that's why you dated him.
At the time, you were doing everything on your motorcycle grocery.
Okay, so I wouldn't say attention, and maybe I wrote that, but I don't mean that.
I appreciated all the support.
I didn't have any friends.
I started working young, and then I just didn't socialize.
And him, he was a really good guy.
He initiated a lot of talks.
And like I said, probably trauma bonding a little too.
But then, anyways, he's a good person.
I wasn't attracted to him, but I dated him.
And then I fell in love with who he was as a person until more things just, you know, you get to know someone and then you lose that kind of attraction.
Okay.
You said that, but here's where it went wrong.
He was a bit older than you, and little things started to give you the ick.
He asked you for $20 for gas.
Correct.
Splitting bills, not paying people back.
Yes.
When he first met, he wanted to study nursing, but he didn't follow through.
Yes.
And I, okay, so about that, yeah, that's the thing I mentioned earlier when you're younger.
Like, I thought it was wrong to, he was, I was 19, 18.
He was 26, 27.
And I did not understand.
I thought it was bad to feel like, like, oh my God, he's asking me for 20 bucks.
And I'm like, I thought it was wrong to feel weird about it.
But it's just like he is older.
If he was my age, asking 20 bucks, I would like gladly do it.
But I think I couldn't understand why I felt this way, given that he was older.
But now, like, you know, I think about it after the relationship, I dissected certain things, certain icks, and I'm like, okay, this and that.
Okay.
And there was something else here.
One sec.
You said that you're not someone who yells or gets angry easily.
Correct.
But he brought out a deep sadness in you.
Yeah.
And you kept dating him.
You felt guilt-tripped.
You deleted Instagram for him.
You struggled with self-confidence.
He made you feel slutty for posting photos.
He was just making me feel bad.
Like if I take selfies.
And I think a lot of my self-consciousness came from that.
Like, I wouldn't, like, fix my hair if I was in the female's restroom or something like that.
Just things like that.
And yeah, because you realize you're not supposed to be in this relationship with somebody if it brings out the worst in you.
And I think it did.
I never yell, but I think like certain.
Did you yell at him?
Not at him, but just a situation.
And then I was like, wow, I never yell like that.
And it came out.
So I'm like, okay, this needs to, like, this probably is not good.
But then, you know, things happen.
Yeah, you said you found yourself crying almost every month.
Time passed.
Your attraction to him faded.
Yes.
And then you got the ick more and more.
Yeah.
You met your current boyfriend.
He was in debt.
He still is, doesn't have it, didn't have a job.
At first.
I told him I was going to say all this, yeah.
You were like, no way, I'm not going through this again.
But you ended up dating him anyway because personality matters more.
And then after you broke up with your ex, you randomly decided to meet a guy from out of state that I'd connected with on Instagram.
Wait, your current boyfriend drove you to the airport to meet the other guy.
Yeah, we were at the time and we weren't seeing each other out.
Who was this guy in Texas?
It's just someone from Instagram.
Famous?
No.
Actor?
No.
Musician?
No.
Content?
It's just a content.
Influencer guy?
Yeah, it's just a content creator.
Fitness guy?
Content creator.
But no, we didn't do anything like that.
But I just wanted to do something spontaneous.
I never do anything.
Spontaneously.
At the time, did your now current boyfriend know that he was driving you to the airport?
I told him everything so that you could go see another guy.
Yes.
And then we talk about that too.
We got to bring him up.
Oh, my God, guys.
Should we bring him up?
I can only do like another 10 minutes.
Wait, who here is gonna stay?
I'm down.
I think I feel better, but you guys don't have to stay.
But I think he's waiting for me.
Does he even want to?
I think what he's doing.
Isn't your boyfriend here too?
No, that's my manager.
He's good at talking and everything.
And we have a lot of conversations about relationships like this with each other.
I think he'll like coming up, but I don't want to drag it on for anybody.
Let me chat.
Do you want the boyfriend to come up or no?
Let me ask the chat.
Let me see what they say.
While I'm waiting for them to say that, I'm going to let these two come through.
We're not chat.
We probably won't have time for a rose session, but you all thought you was safe.
Chair one has a resting, enthusiastic hand job face.
What the fuck?
Chair two had more fingers in her than a ra-tori guy's nose.
Chair three, you sound slash look like a man.
Chair four, deport her, call eyes.
She is the most feminine woman ever seen.
How dare you?
That is Chas Bono in chair five.
No tomfoolery.
Wait, chair four?
He said to me to get deported?
I'm half Mexican, but I'm also...
Oh, okay.
Chas Bono?
That's interesting.
All right.
So, finishing up then with the notes, since it seems like it's a no-go for the boyfriend.
It's mixed.
It's like, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no.
We have a soup chat here.
Bring up the boyfriend.
Bring him out.
Come on.
Who here wants, I'll let the panel decide.
Who here wants the boyfriend to come up?
It's one o'clock.
Okay, well, that's a no.
That's a no then.
All right, that's a no.
All right.
Let's see.
The trip taught you a lot.
You realize that even if someone has their life together, it doesn't mean anything if they don't have the values or personality you need.
When you came, did you do anything with it?
Did you kiss him?
Yes, we did kiss.
But we didn't do anything else.
Nothing else?
We want details.
didn't do anything else current boyfriend drives female crush to the how how far was the drive to the airport How far is like nearly like 10 minutes?
Ten minutes, okay.
If he drove you like an hour, that's...
Yeah.
Dagger in the heart.
I don't think he liked me that much at that time.
You know, when you're first, he was, he, he liked you.
Yeah, he liked me, but like, not enough, like, now, you know, men are different when they're older.
Like, they know what they want.
And he knows, like, I don't want to drag this on, but he's not a simp, you know.
I think I just...
But that's, like, that's kind of brutal.
It's...
It is brutal.
But then, like I said, we were friends.
I came back from the trip and I told them I actually think this and this and I actually like you.
And this trip did teach me that, like, it doesn't matter, like, just because you don't have a job, whatever, whatever, then it doesn't really matter as much.
And he's changed a lot.
And on his own, I don't have to force him to do anything.
He does it on his own.
Did you pay for the flight to Texas?
Of course.
You paid for the flight to Texas?
The guy who was, he wasn't flying you out?
No.
It's just a trip.
And I met all his friends, like the influencer friends.
I don't have friends.
But like the trip was, it was clear he was interested in you, right?
Right?
Yeah, I would say so.
But it's just like, you know.
We didn't do anything.
You kissed.
Yeah, I was just kissing.
It was okay.
Fondling?
No.
No fondling.
Okay, maybe fondling.
Hey!
Oh my God.
What's your boyfriend's name?
Alex.
Alex.
He knows everything.
I told him everything.
You didn't tell us everything.
Oh, yeah.
You just said kissing.
You said just kissing.
There was fondling.
If my boyfriend's not coming up, waiting for me.
Alex, what else could she be lying about?
Alex, I have another Asian woman here for you.
We have Teresa.
She's Vietnamese.
She's not Washington, though, so I don't know if you got a thing for Weijian.
I treat my boyfriend very well.
Is he watching right now, you think?
I don't know.
Oh, he's probably tired waiting for the party to be done.
I have Alex.
Hold on.
I have lovely.
Holly is also available.
Holly, are you interested in Alex?
Alex is a great man.
He would never do that.
Excuse you.
Holly's a catch.
Yes, I do.
Don't be rude to Holly.
I agree.
Don't be rude to Holly.
She's a great catch.
I agree.
But I said.
Why are you saying he would never do that?
Because he loves me.
Oh, you meant cheating.
Yeah, I thought you meant like he would never do it.
No, no, no.
That's really, can you apologize to Holly?
I think you assume that, and you should apologize to Holly.
I don't even know what you're saying.
I think you should apologize.
You assume that I said never as in cheating.
Alex, I also have some other.
You're single.
Yeah, you single.
Amanda's single.
I am single.
I've got a lovely Argentinian woman here who's a lawyer and pursuing acting.
I would really like him to be on here just to talk, but again, I don't want you to be.
Is he going to beat me up, you think?
I just want to be a little bit more.
You didn't do anything wrong.
I think it's a good thing.
I think it was different.
If you're doing your job and you didn't do anything wrong, he was not going to beat you up.
I've been nice tonight, I think, for the most part.
Do I have it, too?
I've been nice.
Looks good.
It's good.
It looks good.
Hit your friend that bitched me out and called me Martha or whatever.
Oh, my goodness.
Let's not get that energy again.
He's gone.
Oh, he's gone.
Trust me.
I got the bunny.
Rachel is definitely meaner than him.
I was like, dang.
So you said after your past relationship, you're much clearer on what you want and what you don't want.
Correct.
You used to feel bad for wanting a man who could take care of you.
You felt really good.
Random thoughts.
You could be.
It's okay.
I'll just leave it there.
Dang, I mean, everything.
God damn.
Do women.
Okay, we did that.
Masculine versus feminine energy.
You said you lean toward traditional values.
You said you think men should be masculine, women should be feminine, or at least relationships work best when there's a balance between the two.
Some women are more dominant.
Are you more dominant?
No.
Have you ever pegged Alex?
Whoa.
No.
Made him wear an apron.
Alex.
Tell him to make you a sample.
You don't have to do it, Alex.
If you're watching Alex, if she puts it out there, I know a lot of Gen Z people, they're doing the pegging thing.
Don't do it.
I don't think a woman can respect a man after she's doggy styled him and pegged him.
Has anybody here pegged a guy, Amanda?
Do anything.
I just get that vibe.
You give.
I'm not.
I've been asking you to get pegging men vibes.
No, they want me to, but I haven't done it.
See?
But you date men who want it.
It was like, actually, in one situation, it was on a dating app.
And it was the first thing he said to me.
He led with it.
He led with it.
Wait, tell me what's pegging.
It's when a woman wears a strap on and she enters a man's anus with the strap on.
Holy Toledo.
Teresa over there has experience.
What?
What?
I didn't say anything.
Where did that come from?
Are we concluding?
Do you have COVID?
Oh, I see.
You're a little congested.
I am congested.
It's stuffy in here.
I'm going to be wrong.
Is it the bird flu?
See, he's just coming to life right now.
This is his witching hour and it's like hey this is I'm getting a second wind.
She's fine.
She's just really tired.
I'm going to wrap it up.
Hold on.
Just come wrapping it up any second now.
Teresa is fine.
All right.
So, finishing up your notes, Ava, Eva.
Did I say right?
Fuck.
God damn, bro.
Okay.
You weren't attracted to your first boyfriend.
Wait, what?
This is like a whole novel therapy.
I didn't know.
Dang.
Wait, I already did that.
I already did that.
My bad.
Oh, he like, oh, what are you doing?
Something about being traditional.
You said you lean towards being traditional, totally fine with preference.
Some women are more dominant.
That's totally fine, but your preference is masculine men.
You think that preference comes from your upbringing and the kind of stability you lacked growing up.
Correct.
Your parents separated or other stuff.
Okay.
You said a lot of people struggle in relationships because they don't have a healthy one with themselves first.
Many don't even know what they truly want.
Social media makes everything harder.
Everything's so available, overly sexualized, and it's easier than ever to cheat emotionally or physically.
Okay.
And that's why you like your current boyfriend.
He's not perfect.
No one's perfect.
I think Alex is perfect.
Put some respect on his name.
Put some respect on Alex's name.
I want you to look into the camera.
This camera say, Alex, you're perfect.
Alex, you're perfect.
Except for what?
Except sometimes your heart really stinks.
Whoa, what the f?
Okay, I guess that's valid.
You said he has so many values you admire, things you consider deeply masculine and rare.
Okay.
Going to Holly.
And that wait, we have Lady T, we have Holly.
And that's it.
So we got two more, and then we're done.
So we're at the finish line, folks.
At the finish line, Holly, 62, never married, seasoned dater.
You're a seasoned dater.
I am seasoned.
Holly, are you going to come back on the show?
You're a character.
We need you back.
I have so many stories I can't even tell you.
I love it.
So here's what we're going to do.
We'll do your notes, but I'm sure there's a lot of other stuff to get into.
You said you were done with dating.
Coffee dates sucked.
You were encouraged by friends to get out there.
You put up a dating profile on Facebook.
Is it the Facebook date?
No, no, no.
It was like some dating site.
This is years ago.
Years ago.
It was like when there were like the tapes.
I don't know.
You know how people are.
There was Zeusk.
There was plenty of stuff.
This was years ago.
Match or whatever.
Okay.
You put up a profile within seconds you had hits.
You don't need hundreds of those dates.
You just wanted one person to love.
This man asked you to do a Zoom call.
You thought beautiful, no coffee date.
You said, let's cut to the chase.
When Zoom opened up, the smile on his face was huge.
And he asked you to lunch immediately.
You met him for lunch, and you guys had a marathon date till 9 p.m.
You were by the LA Museum amongst the lights display.
He kept kissing you.
It was very romantic.
You told him you had to go.
You had a lot of work to finish.
He didn't think you liked him.
You just had work to do.
He took you everywhere.
Disneyland, hot air ballooning, sailing, Trump rally.
He tosses you his credit card and told you to plan a trip.
He wanted to make sure to see the Mississippi and his sister in Memphis.
You traveled through nine states.
You love white water rafting.
So when in the Smoky Mountains, we took a rafting trip.
Great adventure, right?
Not so much.
While rafting the wild river, you were challenged to stay in the boat and not fall out into the rapids.
Everyone needs to paddle.
The guide asked you for his name and you called him by your old boyfriend's name by accident.
Fumble.
The guy, the guide kept calling him by the old boyfriend's name, and all hell broke loose.
You would not believe what happened next.
What happened next?
Oh my God.
He took umbrage on it and I couldn't apologize to him enough.
Guys, she's got a good vocabulary here.
Umbridge.
Well done.
Well done, Holly.
I like it.
Oh, and to the point I was crying because I was asking for forgiveness and like, oh, I don't know how to make this up to you.
And he just took it to another to video me when I'm driving.
And I said, I don't know how else to say I'm sorry to you.
So I'm thinking that we patched it up because I said, we can just go fly home now.
And he's going, no, no.
So we still had a bunch of states to go through.
And I thought things were going well.
You know, I thought we mended it in a whole bit.
So as the last night comes up, or the next morning, as we're going to the airport, we were down in New Orleans and they've got this long ramp you've got to run down.
It's like a mile.
And he had put my suitcase in the car and I hadn't bought anything on the trip.
So my suitcase isn't going to weigh anymore.
And we're kind of late.
And we get up to the luggage place and the woman's going, your bag is like seven pounds over.
And I went, I looked at him.
I go, how can it be, did you put something in here?
And I go, how can it be seven pounds over?
I didn't buy anything.
And he's looking at me and he's acting kind of squirrely.
And I'm thinking, what's going on?
And she goes, well, just put your stuff in his.
And I said, you know, let me use the suitcase and I'll just put stuff in here.
And I go, God, I open it up and I go, everything's wet.
Did you put a bottle of water in here?
And he's like, playing dumb.
No, no.
I switch my clothes.
We get on the plane.
What?
Huh?
We get on the plane.
And by the time I get home, he's already left.
And I'm opening up my suitcase.
What do you think happened?
There was a dildo in it?
In the suitcase?
My suitcase was heavier by seven pounds.
I put nothing in it.
Drugs.
He put cocaine.
He was a drug smuggler.
Worse.
Sex toys.
Come on, you guys.
It's heavier.
It was wet.
What?
I threw it in his suitcase.
Push animals.
I'm thinking everything's patched up.
Alcohol?
It's wet.
Okay.
Can you just say it?
Yeah, just tell us.
He peed in my suitcase.
I was going to say that, but I didn't think that that was the thing.
Let's go.
Let's fucking go.
Kat, by the way, says Alex is in chat and wants to come in.
Yes.
How does Kat know Alex?
How do you tell if somebody's in the chat?
He's in the chat, apparently, but maybe it could be a fake.
I don't know.
It could be fake.
Okay, so final note for you.
You said you still have overwhelming sadness from it, and you're so glad you found out before getting married than after.
Stay tuned.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like, ooh, he's in your suitcase.
It's a prank.
It's just a prank, bro.
If that's the beginning.
I mean, what could happen?
I'm just going, I'm floored.
That's like how disgusting.
Is that seven pounds?
I don't know what else he did.
I don't know.
I'm just saying, you know, I'm probably guessing it's seven pounds, but it was over.
And you're going, I didn't buy anything.
What's wrong?
What happened?
And is that like the last thing you would ever think somebody would do?
That's tragic.
It's scary.
I mean, that's just, that's just scary as far as I'm concerned.
And I kept going, like, just because I accidentally called him by the wrong name, I'm going, how many times did I say I was sorry?
How many times did I think I and it sent me in?
I was about to say sorry.
God.
It sent me in just a spiral for months because it's like crazy.
Yeah.
And then the worst part is tell us the worst part.
Had three girlfriends.
I had three girlfriends that I was talking to, telling them because I was so excited.
Oh, we're going hotter, Bellini, we're going to Disneyland.
And they're like getting jealous and pissed off at me.
And when I got home and found out what he did, they're going, Holly, what'd you do?
And I'm going, I feel like I'm humiliated, you know?
How do I even tell him?
You know?
I once urinated on a woman's belongings.
Oh my God.
Why?
And that's when she knew that I was the one.
Are you single?
Okay Okay, cool.
Final notes.
Holly, we're going to get you back.
We're going to hear more of your stories, okay, Holly?
Lady T.
The final person, the final person.
Lady T, is that my DJ name?
Oh, Teresa.
Okay.
One time you dated the guy you met on Hinge, and within the first 30 minutes of your date, he created a family plan on Uber to add you so you never had to pay for your own Uber since you didn't have a car.
After two weeks of seeing each other, he ghosted you, but continued to pay for your Ubers.
He cut you off the plan after you took a $500 Uber to Vegas from LA to meet your mom.
Yup.
Damn, that's brutal.
Brutal.
When you say he ghosted you, what does that mean, though?
Like, he went from texting me all day, every day.
Just sit up a bit straight if you can.
Yeah, you're good.
So we went from being in causic communication to crickets.
Wouldn't say a word.
Tried checking in, tried calling, nothing.
But he was still paying for my Ubers.
I missed my bus to see my mom.
I'm like, you know what?
This will get his attention.
So I ordered a $500 Uber to Vegas to meet my mom.
And then he called me.
He's like, you're not going to fucking Vegas.
I'm like, too late.
Do you still have the final text messages between you guys?
No, I don't.
Like, what does just what does ghosting mean?
I guess.
I don't know.
It means you don't.
So, like, you would text him and he just didn't reply.
Exactly.
But was it just once, or did you double or triple text?
I did once, waited a couple days, tried again, waited a week, tried again.
That's a ghost, yeah.
Yeah.
That's a ghost.
Okay.
Damn.
That's a.
So you made it to Vegas, though.
I did.
But then he cut you off.
That's fine.
Yeah.
You said being intentional, you're big on dating with intention, not rushing into labels, but also not entertaining situationships that go nowhere.
You want connection, chemistry, and clarity.
No comments from me on that.
You said dating now is wild, but not hopeless.
If you communicate clearly and don't play games, you really stand out.
Like being honest is almost a superpower.
These days, some men act like they're the prize.
We are.
They wanted to be chased, courted, and emotionally babied like women.
It's giving role reversal, but with none of the softness or reciprocity.
Yep.
I feel like bedtime.
That's my bedtime.
Bedtime sounds like that.
It's giving.
So role reversal.
So what are men's roles?
Oh, we already been.
Okay, I guess we already talked about it.
What are women?
How about this?
What are women's roles?
Give me a woman.
No, no, just for her.
What are women's roles?
To eat bond bonds, just for her, just for her.
Have the pool boy fan.
It's Teresa's time.
Just for DJ.
DJ Teresa.
I think as my role as a woman is to make sure my man feels nurtured, he feels respected.
He feels taken care of.
He feels considered.
He feels supported.
Anything I can do to make his life easier.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm like really cold.
Here, close the door.
This is the last thing.
Okay.
Yeah, we already talked about it.
It was just the whole traditional argument.
Yeah.
Want traditional men, aren't traditional women.
Because you're like boss babe, right?
Boss babe, nightlife, party girl, rave girl, posting thirst traps, revealing photos.
Traditional, are you traditional women?
Do you want a traditional man?
You said, why should, or why should guys, okay.
I guess final thing on that.
Not a rhetorical question.
Why should men be traditional for modern women?
Any final?
I asked it before.
I didn't really get a response.
Why?
It's a choice.
Okay.
They gave me a choice.
That's it.
All right.
Let's see here.
I think we're pretty much all done.
So, Chaw, thank you for the soup chat.
Appreciate it, man.
Unfortunately, it's late.
We won't be able to do a roast session here because, you know, the girls really wanted to stay for a roast session, but it's too late.
And Streamlabs is being whack.
So, okay, guys.
So, here's what we're going to do.
If you guys can, let me see if there's any final shout-outs.
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Did we do your notes?
I think we did, right?
Evelyn?
Yeah, we did.
Yeah.
Yeah, we, yeah.
Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
Drop us a follow.
Drop us a prime sub.
Appreciate it.
Would appreciate it very much, guys.
Okay.
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Like the video, please.
And then let me double check, make sure we're all good on the chats.
Okay, so that was an interesting show.
I want to end it by seeing, by doing a call to action.
I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment, can't use this as a moment, as an opportunity to give you a call to action.
Chloe, you're 19.
Well, you said you were 18, but you're 19.
Would you consider stopping sex work entirely?
Do sex work.
Okay.
Do only fans.
Would you consider stopping OnlyFans and posting nude content and making new content and fucking your boyfriend on camera?
Buy the nudes.
Sure, sure, sure.
You have to buy it.
Would you consider stopping that, stopping OnlyFans tonight?
And what do I get for doing that?
Your soul.
I think I have a great soul already.
Give me something else.
Please don't molest my crystal.
Put the crystal down.
Put it.
Put it down.
Okay.
Thank you.
I mean, that's it.
I tried.
You know, that's all I really have to say.
So, no.
Because you're young.
You can get out of it.
Like, you're still young.
You can get out of it.
I actually can, but.
Wait, you can't?
No, actually, never mind.
Wait, what the fuck?
No, I can.
I can.
Wait, did she say can't?
No, I can.
Oh, are you talking like you have a contract?
I can't say.
Bro, there's no con.
Okay.
People have employment contracts all the time.
You can't be forced to do work, right?
People break break contracts all the time.
Sometimes there's penalties, but nothing would compel you.
Nothing can force you to do the work.
That's true.
So I get that you might have some sort of contract, and maybe I don't know what the details of our.
James Sexton can help you out with it.
So now, um, no, I'm not gonna quit tonight, but I will quit in the future when I have a husband or a dead boyfriend.
All I'm saying, you're still young, still young.
You can get out of it, yeah, it's not too late.
Um, but, anyways, I tried my best.
Okay, so GG, hold on, let me wait, where the fuck, GG to the panel.
I want to say, last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
Thank you for tuning in tonight.
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
I appreciate that.
Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
We will be live again.
I'm wondering if we have any debates scheduled.
Not this week.
We will be live again Sunday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram.
If you can make it to Santa Barbara, let me just double-check.
We have this.
Yo, Joy, thank you for the prime sub.
Appreciate it.
And then, okay.
Let me double-check, make sure everything's all good here.
I kind of want to wait until Teresa's back.
She went to the bathroom, but we're just going to.
Oh, quick, Teresa, before we wrap, come wave goodbye to the we're wrapping the show.
Quick.
Bye.
Okay, hold on one sec.
Just any final thoughts from anybody or no?
Well, I love what I do, and no one's forcing me to do this.
I just want to make that clear.
I think people maybe thought you were being trafficked.
No, no.
But you just have a contract.
I, yeah, I do OnlyFans.
It's my thing that I choose to do.
So don't want to get in trouble.
Definitely does not sound suspicious at all.
I'm serious.
No, I want to do OnlyFans right now.
That wasn't very convincing.
Anyways, she loves OnlyFans, whatever.
Okay.
Okay, guys.
07's in the chat.
What am I forgetting?
Nothing.
I think I'm forgetting something.
Your boyfriend really is.
He's failing me right now.
Do you want your boyfriend to come?
All right, guys.
07's in the chat.
We'll see you guys next time.
Good night, guys.
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