Whatever Podcast - 2 OBNOXIOUS Rude Girls KICKED OUT! 1 RAGE QUIT?! The MOST Beautiful Panel EVER???

Feb. 5, 2025 - Whatever Podcast

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2 OBNOXIOUS Rude Girls KICKED OUT! 1 RAGE QUIT?! The MOST Beautiful Panel EVER??? | Dating Talk #226

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	Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.
	I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
	We're coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California every Sunday and Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
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	With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, location, occupation, and education.
	Go ahead.
	What's going on?
	I'm Forever the Rebel.
	I'm 24.
	I'm from Chicago, but I live in Atlanta.
	Came all the way to LA out here for this.
	Welcome.
	I'm a musician and a business owner.
	I own my own studio, and people pay me to record their music.
	I have a certification in audio engineering and I played a guitar.
	Nice.
	Oh man, we should have had you bring an instrument or something.
	Yeah, maybe next time.
	And any education, like any college or anything like that?
	Art school?
	I was in the military, so I didn't go to college.
	I was in the Air Force.
	Air Force?
	Okay.
	So enlisted or you went in as enlisted?
	Yeah, enlisted.
	I was in there for two years and then I left for medical reasons.
	Was it like a medical discharge?
	Yeah, it was like a medical discharge.
	And then I went and got my certification in audio engineer.
	So that's my etiquette.
	What were you?
	What was your job, I guess, in the military?
	I was an engineer, so basically, I made the blueprints and floor plans for my bass.
	All right, got it.
	And you have a grill?
	Is that what it is?
	Is that called?
	A grill?
	Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
	Okay, you're going to get the tops done?
	Yeah, I'm definitely going to get the tops.
	I'm going to be blinged out soon.
	I definitely am.
	Okay.
	I'm a rapper.
	Gotta fit.
	Can we hear a little like a you sing too?
	I'm more of a rock star, so I do a little rock, but I definitely rap.
	Okay.
	Give us a little couple bars.
	Yeah, I got you.
	I give you a little four-piece.
	Yo, yo.
	Hi, nice to meet you.
	My name is Forever.
	We could talk about relationships and put it together.
	We could chill on my podcast, talk about whatever.
	Man, I hope money these girls, man, we leaving together.
	No, I just played.
	I'm just playing.
	I just came off the top with it.
	That was good.
	That was good.
	Thank you for having me.
	That'll be our new intro for the next time.
	Whatever.
	Sweet.
	Awesome.
	Thank you, Rebel.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Roxanna Vina, and I am from Santa Barbara.
	Okay.
	I actually grew up in Rhode Island.
	Okay, from Rhode Island.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	And I own a spa called Femme Fatale Beauty.
	Femme Fatale.
	I'm also a real estate agent, and I used to work for Playboy as well.
	Nice.
	Like the magazine, or yeah.
	So it was since 18 that I've been working on and off with them.
	Okay.
	But I have three children.
	Three kids.
	Oh, yeah.
	So I had to stop at some point.
	Same father?
	Same father.
	Same guy.
	Are you married?
	Well, I guess we can get into that later.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Any school or anything like that?
	Yes, so I went to Rhode Island College.
	And then you got your associate's bachelor's?
	I got like a Bachelor of Arts.
	Started for communications, public relations.
	And then I furthered my career with real estate.
	Sure.
	And then also cosmetology school for being an aesthetician.
	Got it.
	Age?
	I am 47.
	47.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	What about you?
	Good morning, children.
	My name is Elena.
	I'm from Ukraine.
	Wait, say that again.
	Good morning, children.
	Wake up.
	We are in whatever podcast.
	Instead of children, can you say comrades?
	Go ahead.
	Comrades?
	Comrades.
	Who is this?
	Comrades?
	My English is not good.
	I'm from Ukraine.
	Well, exactly.
	Comrades.
	Comrades.
	Good morning, comrades.
	Good morning, comrades.
	Okay, perfect.
	Good.
	Okay, my name is Elena.
	I'm from Ukraine.
	I live in Miami.
	I am a singer, songwriter, host, comedian, actress, do events, and also work as a bartender.
	I'm 37.
	And any school or anything like that?
	Yeah, I have a master's degree.
	I have two education.
	In childhood education, you said?
	Huh?
	The master's degree, it's in childhood.
	No, no, no.
	It's a finance.
	Oh, finance.
	Okay, got it.
	And age?
	37.
	37.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hello.
	I'm Ayana.
	I'm 23.
	I'm from California or Baltimore.
	It doesn't matter.
	Baltimore?
	Yes, that's where I was raised for a long time.
	What was that for?
	I don't know.
	And I'm a singer.
	I was gonna do that for Chicago.
	Baldwin takes the cake.
	Okay, singer.
	Yeah.
	And education?
	Yeah, I went to SBCC.
	Got your associates?
	No, I didn't finish yet.
	Okay.
	Still working on this.
	Still working on it, yeah.
	Let's hear Edda James.
	What's that song?
	All right, ready?
	You know which one I'm talking about.
	At last, my love has come along.
	My lonely days are over.
	And life is like a song.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	At last.
	That was good.
	Wait, you're a singer too.
	All right, let's hear it.
	Wait, do you sing also?
	You singing.
	Pretty bad.
	Everybody singing.
	What about you?
	What should I sing?
	Well, you said you're a singer, right?
	Yes.
	Are you a rapper too?
	No, no, no.
	Ukrainian rapper is not popular.
	Okay.
	Give us something.
	Sing.
	You want Ukrainian?
	You want American?
	American?
	No, wait.
	Yes.
	Sure.
	Yeah, American.
	Yeah, clear that wool.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	All right.
	Excuse me.
	You're putting everybody on a spot.
	I know.
	I know.
	That's good.
	Especially, yeah, follow her up, too.
	That's rough.
	It was.
	You wanna see?
	Watch your eyes, what you see.
	How can I be what you wanted to be?
	You frozen when your heart's not open.
	If I could melt your heart, we'd never be apart.
	Wow, all right.
	Very cool, very cool.
	What about you?
	Natalie, I'm 49.
	March 15 is my birthday.
	Happy birthday.
	There is a birthday.
	There's what?
	Audios.
	Some people are saying it's fine, but I think it was like a bad thing.
	Give me one sec, guys.
	We are getting a couple reports of a couple audio issues here and there.
	Give me one sec.
	Somebody saying sound is fine.
	Audio issues.
	Gotta refresh.
	One sec, guys.
	Sometimes it's give me one sec, guys.
	The audio issue is her voice.
	What?
	Uh, members.
	Members.
	How's the audio?
	Is the audio okay?
	Or is it.
	I did a couple changes to it.
	So, I mean, I'm not.
	There could be reports of differences in the audio.
	But can you let me know if the audio is okay, members?
	The singing was the problem.
	Okay.
	You see the Ukrainian men comment?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'll listen to it after the introductions, but for now, I think we're internet problems too.
	I don't know.
	I think it's fine.
	Mods, is it mod chat?
	Can you tell me if it's fine?
	Sorry, guys.
	Just one moment here.
	Give us just a moment, guys.
	Just another day.
	Just another day.
	Technical difficulties, audio difficulties.
	Thank you for your patience, guys, while my team is looking into any audio issues here.
	I think it's fine for now, but if it continues, I'll take another look at it.
	Sorry for the interruption.
	Why don't you introduce yourself?
	Natalie, 49.
	Recently moved to Oxnard Shore from Manhattan Beach.
	I'm a French Portuguese.
	I'm a PA.
	I have three medical cosmetic offices, Ventura, Malibu, and Manhattan Beach.
	I love what I do.
	Single parent, very proud to my Marine boy.
	He's just became a captain in Campanalton.
	Woo-hoo!
	Marines?
	Yes.
	Marines.
	And he's an officer.
	No, my son was an officer, now he's a captain.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	He didn't go in and enlisted, though.
	No, he went to college.
	He went to college.
	He played water polo for UCI.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	And you said you're a PA, so a physical program.
	Yeah, physician assistant.
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	And I do injection, and I'm very much upset with the comment you guys had on the labia.
	All my friends in the industry are very pro-labia surgery.
	So you guys say you're against and you protesting it.
	But a lot of many surgeons that I know will go out of business.
	It's a very popular procedure.
	Excuse me?
	Oh, no, no, no, no.
	Okay, we're going to have to save the labia debate for later.
	But it's my industry.
	I know how it goes.
	I mean, they fly here from all over the world to get it done.
	It's your industry, but it's his best.
	Because women that do vaginal birth, they have to get some repair.
	So I'm just saying, not all the time, but most women.
	Do you have three kids?
	I've had three kids.
	Do you have what is it called?
	Vaginal repair?
	Vaginal rejuvenation.
	Vaginal rejuvenation, but vaginal birth is different.
	Is the vagina fine?
	It's fine.
	It's fine.
	She's had three kids.
	The vagina's fine.
	I had a C-section.
	It's very fine.
	But I'm just saying the industry is very high demand.
	I don't say about us.
	I say the industry is very high demand.
	Do you do labia plasty?
	No, I have many friends that do it and I know how it's done.
	Let me know.
	I'm going to protest.
	I did 12 years plastic surgery and it's a very high demand.
	I'm sad about that.
	I'm sad about that.
	Women like a chider because the men ask for it.
	Like what?
	Women like it to be chider because the men ask for it.
	But the labia placey, that's like the leap.
	That's how I get physiogny.
	That's the same thing.
	Yeah, but the leap, if you get the leap, you want to get it all done.
	I'm just saying it's sick.
	Well, some women just get the labia plasty, but I mean, man.
	I've known.
	Jake, have you ever run into like have you ever run into like loose?
	I've ever run into one.
	Have you put your penis in one?
	I may have encountered one.
	Or used your fingers.
	Bro, it's like, bro, loose pussy is rare.
	Rare.
	And you can cagels.
	Anyways, whatever.
	Good talk.
	Already talking about vaginas five minutes into the show.
	Okay.
	Well, we'll have the debate later then.
	What about you?
	My name is Callie.
	Yep.
	I'm 31.
	31.
	All right.
	I am a creator, a model, and I have a cannabis brand.
	Sweet.
	And where are you from?
	I'm originally from the Bay Area, but I live in Vegas.
	A little closer.
	I'm originally from the Bay Area, but I live in Vancouver.
	You're in Vegas.
	And any school, college, anything like that?
	Yeah, I went to a university, but I didn't finish.
	Did you get your associates or no?
	Okay, got it.
	And I looked on your Instagram.
	You have a billboard in the desert.
	That's cool.
	Yeah, it was right before you got to Vegas from LA.
	Nice.
	Has the billboard campaign, has it resulted in some good traffic?
	No.
	It's not working?
	Are you regretting the billboard?
	I don't regret it at all.
	It was good for like getting my name out there, but.
	Oh, wait, one question.
	Are those corrective lenses?
	Is it like blue light?
	No.
	Because I feel like we need to see your face, you know?
	Are you down to take them off?
	No, I like to wear them.
	I'll give you a $2.
	Do you know how much this is worth?
	I'll give you a $2 bill to take them off for the rest of the show.
	I don't need $2.
	Those are very bad.
	You don't need $2, but you need a $2 bill.
	Do you have any $2 bills?
	No.
	Have you ever had a $2 bill?
	I have a $2 bill.
	Do I need a $2 billion?
	You need it.
	No.
	This is to re-up your billboard campaign.
	You can put it towards that.
	Save it for a rainy day, aka today.
	I said I have a cannabis brand.
	I think I'm good.
	Good talk.
	Good talk.
	What about you?
	What's up?
	I'm Ava.
	Okay, welcome.
	Siren SB from SB.
	805.
	Yep.
	I was in cosmetology school.
	I did aesthetician school.
	So I do aesthetics.
	I teach dance as well.
	Salsa, bachata.
	Bachata?
	Nice.
	I do that too.
	Really?
	Not really.
	It doesn't look like it.
	I definitely don't do it.
	Age?
	24.
	24.
	All right.
	Welcome back.
	What about you?
	What's good, y'all?
	It's your girl Yams.
	Yamile Fuentes.
	Born and raised here in Santa Barbara, 805, baby.
	I am 24 years old.
	I am a business administration major and a dancer.
	And I also rap, so I'm going to have to hop in your studio because everyone's been flaking on me.
	Let's go.
	You said Fuentes?
	Yes.
	You agree, Paul?
	Oh, bro.
	Seriously, dude.
	A lot of artists in here.
	Oh, my God.
	I like it.
	A lot of creators.
	Go ahead, Jake.
	I guess we all go home with you.
	Jake, YouTube channel Rattlesnake TV, podcast, reality-based podcast, and travel channel Rattlesnake Travel, where we've just released a video shooting big, big weapons with Andrew Wilson, and you guys will enjoy that all down below.
	All right, guys, going around the table once more, we're getting into everybody's relationship status.
	So if you're single, how long have you been single?
	What's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Single, been single for like a year, and my longest relationship was four years.
	On and off tourists, the last year, but like four years.
	Yeah.
	So you said single?
	For a year.
	One year, but on and off.
	Yeah, but it was like four years in total.
	It was on and off.
	But I'll say four years for real because I really wasn't talking to anybody else during those four years.
	Okay, got it.
	When you say on and off, so it's like there'd be periods.
	Yeah, like we break up, then, you know, I'd be the person chasing, you know, and I'd be like, hey, come back.
	Let's work it out.
	And then we get back together for a couple more months.
	And then it'd be on and off type situation.
	You know how it is.
	You know, we all get together with our exes.
	Especially like, that was my first relationship.
	So it was like the attachment issues are strong.
	For sure.
	How many times was it on and off again?
	I'd say like three, four, five, three, four, five times.
	Okay, and who's initiating the off?
	Like, we would break up for different reasons.
	But like, like the last time, like, she would be starting getting mean to me out of nowhere.
	And then if I didn't feel like I did anything wrong, we end up breaking up or we just, it'd be something stupid.
	Like, we shared a money together and it died.
	And she blamed it on me, and we broke up.
	And that'll be a breakup for a couple of months or something like that.
	It just was like little stupid things like that.
	But like I said, it was my first relationship.
	So I didn't know what I was doing all the way.
	Okay.
	And you were lesbian.
	Yeah.
	Are a lesbian?
	Can you tell us there was a transition?
	You kind of went viral recently.
	Yeah.
	Let me know the details.
	Yeah.
	I like girls.
	That's my preference.
	But it just recently, in 2024, really, I was just having some issues with girls not reciprocating my energy.
	I just felt like I was giving everything and not getting anything.
	And I just, at a certain point, I'm tired because, like, I'm a STEM.
	Like, I like, I like to switch it up, put on some lashes to shit too.
	I'm a princess, too.
	So you're going to have to treat me like that.
	And so I had to switch over to guys and give guys a chance.
	And, you know, I've been having fun.
	I've been having fun.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It's fun not having to do everything.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, I hate driving.
	Me and simple stuff like that.
	Like, you don't, girls don't appreciate it sometimes.
	And it's just like, I just want somebody to, you know, I want a girlfriend.
	You hate driving?
	Yeah, I don't like driving.
	Like, it's not like.
	Do you need a man to drive for you?
	I'm not saying I don't need it, but I would prefer to be in the passenger seat for sure.
	I feel like everybody would.
	And like, I want a girlfriend, but a girlfriend doesn't want me.
	So I'm talking to guys right now.
	It's easier to get guys, too.
	So they're so easy.
	They're so easy.
	So, yeah.
	Oh, did you have a pretty much okay?
	But yeah, I've been having fun.
	Metro Matt donated to Matt.
	Sorry for the delay.
	What's in the DEI panel?
	Daddy Trump already banned this.
	Send these 304s back to the Looney Bin.
	Sorry for the delay, Metro Matt.
	We were just getting through the intro and then the audio issues threw me off.
	But yo, Metro Matt, thank you so much, man.
	For the title.
	304.
	Does anybody want to respond to anybody?
	304.
	Looney Ben, 3FO, DEI.
	Daddy Trump.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Metro Matt.
	Appreciate it.
	Guys, W's in the chat for Metro Matt.
	Big time supporter over there.
	Good, good homie in the Discord, too.
	Relationship status.
	Go ahead.
	Yes.
	So I was married for 20 years.
	Just recently got divorced.
	And I am with the one I truly love.
	We have been in the relationship for like three years almost.
	Gotcha.
	Wait.
	A couple clarifying questions here.
	Your marriage, you were married for 20 years?
	Yeah.
	And together for how long with the individual?
	With my boyfriend now.
	So you said you were married for 20 years, is that correct?
	Yes.
	But you were dating.
	Oh, we were only dating for like six months.
	Oh, okay.
	So that's pretty quick.
	20 years.
	Yeah.
	I got married when I was 24.
	Married at 24, and then so you got divorced at 44?
	I got divorced.
	Well, it got finalized last year.
	Last year, okay.
	It took a long time to get finalized.
	A couple clarifying questions on this.
	You said you and you initiated the divorce?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	But you've been with the man who you truly love.
	Or how did you describe it?
	The love of my life.
	Love of your life.
	You've been in a relationship for three years.
	Three years.
	How soon after you initiated the divorce did you begin your new relationship?
	Well, it's a little bit complicated because, well, my boyfriend would act like he's gay.
	What?
	He pretend he was gay, right?
	And like, but my ex knew we had kind of an open relationship.
	And so because I had children, like he would come over the house and I didn't want to be, we didn't want to be like, well, this is my lover, you know?
	So we went through that phase of maybe about six months to a year of just kind of like, you know.
	Pretend how?
	What's that?
	Pretend to be gay how?
	Oh, yeah, like he would just act like, like, just in front of the kids, you know, like, but like, my, my ex knew, you know, and he had his own relationships over the years and so he's, you know, so.
	Your ex-husband.
	Yes.
	Wait, so I'm a little, was, are you alleging there's infidelity?
	Um, yes.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	But, um, on your end or his or both?
	Um, I would say on his end, but um, he, if you ask him, he would say that I was being not, you know, not true.
	But the thing is, is that, okay, he, he had, you know, his flings here and there.
	He would travel a lot.
	And then I would, and then finally I found somebody and we had an open relationship.
	And so he knew that we were lovers.
	And so, you know, technically I'm not like cheating.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Because it's an open relationship.
	Oh, you had an open marriage?
	Yeah.
	For the whole marriage?
	Not for the whole marriage.
	I would say the last like year and a half, two years.
	So how's you, this guy you've been dating for three years, when did you meet him?
	I met him, well, I was still married.
	I met him the last like two years of our marriage.
	So yeah, we were together for like a full year.
	And then the divorce happened.
	And then that divorce was like taking like forever, like a year.
	And then now we're together.
	So that was the guy that you were truly in love with?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I was really young when I got married, you know.
	And he was 10 years older than me.
	Was there any when the marriage was still some semblance of still together?
	Was your current boyfriend in the picture?
	What do you mean by that?
	Well, it appears there's a bit of crossover between the time you met your now love of your life boyfriend and the time when you were still married.
	Yes, there was a crossover.
	Okay.
	And that's when he was like, pretend to be gay.
	For the kids.
	For the kids.
	Yeah.
	So wait, while you were still living with your ex-husband, you were inviting over your true lover who pretended to be gay in front of your kids.
	Why did I just.
	Maybe.
	But now, are you open?
	Often, you know, are you open?
	Do your kids know that you're dating him?
	Yeah, they totally know.
	Yeah.
	How old are the kids?
	So how did you explain to them that he's not gay and he's like your boyfriend?
	So that took a long time.
	You know, we had like therapists, we had like for the kids?
	Yeah.
	Couldn't he just show up?
	Show one of his friends?
	Yeah, but that was about the divorce or about the gay.
	Not actually gay.
	No, no, no, just over the divorce and stuff.
	Okay.
	But like, no, they're fine now, you know.
	They, you know, I have 50-50, so they come over.
	You know, me and my boyfriend live together and like, it's great.
	You know, we get along very well.
	You know, we take the kids out, we go on trips together, you know, it's fine now.
	Okay, yeah, all right.
	So, your husband knew that did your husband know that you were like sliding with the other guy?
	He was cool with it?
	Oh, because I was opening it.
	Oh, okay.
	All right, okay.
	Yes, I was gonna say somebody's saying annoying bracelet.
	Does somebody have like a noisy bracelet?
	Oh, maybe me.
	I have one.
	My earrings, just a second.
	Oh, yeah, there's like a clink.
	I think it's the earrings.
	Um, anyways, if you can deal with that, but what about you, relationship status?
	Um, I'm single two years searching for my new life.
	Three years, you said, yes, okay, and um, longest relationship, two years, sorry, did you say two or three?
	Uh, the longest, two years.
	I'm single three years.
	I see, okay.
	And uh, when did you move you're from Ukraine?
	When did you move to Miami?
	Uh, two years ago, two exactly two years ago.
	And was that like at the outbreak of the Ukrainian war?
	Yeah, okay, so you moved to Miami, you've been single for three years.
	So, uh, and when you moved from Ukraine, you went straight to Miami or you someboards?
	Yes, to Miami straight.
	Okay, why did you pick Miami?
	Not me, pick God, pick God.
	Okay, you know, it's that is the last place on earth God would pick.
	No, you know, when I was a child, I was dreaming to live in Hollywood, and God heard my dreams and he brought me to Hollywood, but Miami.
	I didn't say to God which one I want, so he chose the Miami.
	I didn't know that Hollywood have Florida.
	God hates Hollywood.
	Yes, and it's in all my documents, it's Hollywood address.
	Yes.
	And so tell us a bit about your.
	I mean, you moved to Miami and you've been single for three years, but you've gone on dates, right?
	Yes.
	In fact, in your notes, if I seem to recall, you said you've been on 100 dates.
	Many, yes.
	You've dated, is it more than 100 or like exactly 100?
	You gave me a lot of money.
	I don't know why I just came because actually I came completely alone to America.
	I didn't know anyone, so I needed to meet as much as possible people to understand what's going on in this country.
	And, you know, when you're meeting the people, you know the information.
	And do you have like a refugee status?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Okay.
	And so do you receive support from the United States government?
	No.
	No?
	Like any money?
	It was in the beginning, they offer you like $200 for food and insurance.
	So three?
	Health insurance?
	Health insurance for six months, and I think food stamps also for six months.
	Okay.
	And then they just give you like $200 cash.
	Okay.
	No, no, no.
	You can choose.
	You can choose.
	Like 200 foot stamps.
	I see.
	Okay.
	And then does that expire?
	The refugee status?
	Soon it will be expired, yes.
	And will you have to go back to Ukraine?
	We're waiting what Trump will make the new law of what we're gonna do.
	But you said you went on 100 dates?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And where would you typically meet these men?
	On dating apps?
	Yes.
	And would you go out to like nightclubs and bars?
	Also, yes.
	How often do you go out to nightclubs and bars?
	Now or before.
	Because when I just came to America one year, I was very, very hyperactive.
	I was everywhere in clubs, in events.
	First year, you go out two times a week, three times a week?
	Something like this, yes.
	But now I have a lot of jobs, so I don't have time for dating.
	So I think.
	I see.
	Okay.
	And so you would meet men at nightclubs and bars or how would you meet them?
	Easily.
	Make coming to me to talk.
	Different.
	Different?
	You know, I come, I found a lot of Russian-speaking bars, so whereas the people from my country or from any other USSR country, so it was very easy to talk to them.
	And some other men I met in dating apps.
	Which part of Ukraine are you from?
	I'm from city Vinica, it's central part, but also I was lived 10 years in Kiev, it's the capital of Ukraine.
	And dating apps, did you use any dating apps?
	No, no.
	It's too much wasting of time.
	And you did say we'll come back to it, but you said that you've been on a hundred dates and nearly nobody called you back and invited you for a second date.
	Yes.
	So of the hundred first dates you had, how many went to a second date?
	Maybe only a couple.
	Like two, three?
	Two, three, five, I don't know, yeah, something like this.
	And then would you, some of these first dates, like, would you hook up with them?
	Hook up sex.
	No.
	Go back to their place, have sex.
	No, no.
	I'm an old-fashioned girl.
	No.
	You're an old-fashioned girl.
	Yes.
	What does that mean?
	It's me, no sex.
	Until when?
	Until I feel love.
	Has that always been the case?
	Huh?
	Has that always been the case?
	Of course.
	My mama raised me very good.
	My mama has only one father and they're together 40 years.
	And they have four beautiful children.
	And I have normal standards in my head.
	So I think if my love me, he can a little bit wait, isn't it?
	So you've been celibate for three years.
	What?
	Well, I mean, you said let's not speak about that.
	But so it sounded like three, four, five of the first dates, there's like a second date.
	What's the furthest any of these guys got?
	Date five?
	Were any of them your boyfriend or no?
	Oh my god, it's a need to remind.
	I have some friends with who I still speaking, but I didn't get any relationship.
	Like I didn't feel love or something.
	When you say you have friends who you're still speaking with, of course, yes.
	You still see them.
	Keep in touch.
	Not like it dates, but like speaking.
	For sex.
	No.
	But hold on, I'm confused.
	You said you're old-fashioned.
	Yes.
	You said you're traditional.
	Yes.
	You don't have sex on the first date.
	Yes.
	Second date?
	No.
	Third date?
	Maybe.
	Okay, third date.
	But you haven't been celibate the entire time that you've been in Miami.
	Celibate is mean nothing.
	Celibate means not having sex.
	She also said there was a couple people out of that 100 dates.
	Yeah, that it seemed to go a little further, but I mean, I'm just trying to get a sense of how old-fashioned we're talking here.
	Let's keep it secret.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Don't kiss and tell.
	Well, we'll come back to the 100-date thing, but what about you?
	Relationship status?
	I'm in a relationship.
	Well, I don't say.
	Yeah, mammy.
	Thank you, Tomani.
	It is a man, right?
	Yeah, this time.
	Okay, this time.
	How long have you guys been together?
	About six months.
	Six months?
	And then your longest relationship?
	Five years.
	Five years.
	All right.
	What about you?
	My longest relationship was 12 years.
	I'm 25 years in the US.
	So 12 out of it.
	And I've been single since 2019.
	Went on many dates, but nothing evolved.
	Some of them, we stay friends.
	Some of them want more, but I couldn't see myself investing anything more than just see you.
	And were you married?
	I was married, yeah.
	The 12-year relationship?
	Is that the only time you've been married?
	Yes.
	And you have one son.
	With the guy you were married to.
	Okay.
	And then you guys got divorced.
	Got divorced, yeah.
	Who initiated the divorce?
	It was the Megabel because he wanted to move to Tennessee and I wanted to stay with my son Waterpolo Career.
	And I said, I will follow you.
	And then he meets somebody and I said, okay, this is meant to be.
	And we stay friendly.
	Sure.
	And you said, as far as your location, you're from France.
	I'm French Portuguese, born in Paris.
	Born in Paris.
	Did you live in Portugal at all or no?
	No, my dad is from Portugal.
	My mom is Parisian.
	And I was raised in Tel Aviv.
	I did my military service there for two and a half years.
	And then I come to Greece.
	I live in Greece for six years.
	And then I come to the U.S.
	I see.
	Okay.
	And you said in starting in 2019, I think this is after.
	In 2019, I decide I invest more in myself and grow my business.
	And plus, it was all the lockdown.
	People were afraid.
	So it was a good opportunity to really build myself, my brand, my everything, more training, more getting into health.
	I study a little bit of astrology and I really like it.
	So I think people, when they date somebody, they should consider a little bit astrology and see maybe it's compatible or not.
	I think.
	But many people go blinded into something they don't know.
	So maybe the astrology gives to you a map of what is good for you, what is not good for you, and you can cut it shorter or build a little bit longer.
	But on the other hand, I met many very compatible on paper people to me, but mentally and emotionally was not there.
	So you get both.
	And you said in 2019 you did quite a bit of dating.
	Is that correct?
	No, in 2019 I decided I just not gonna date.
	I'm gonna invest in myself.
	I don't recall the precise year then, but you said after your divorce you did, you were dating quite a lot.
	I was dating, going on dates.
	I still go on dates.
	Yeah.
	How many, like per week on average?
	Like how many dates do you go on?
	Maybe two.
	Two dates per week?
	Yeah.
	Or I mostly meet people organic when I go out.
	I think it's more legitimate, better.
	I think the online is just a shortcut to get more information quicker, easier.
	But my personal opinion, I don't think men is as masculine as should be or gentlemen as should be.
	I think the cesspool of the dating apps and all this is just a very visible thing for people to look and see you thank you by next next next.
	How old did you say you are?
	How old are I?
	I'm 49.
	I'm going to be March 15, 15.
	How old is your son?
	My son is 25.
	What year were you born in?
	What year were you born in?
	Me?
	Yeah.
	76.
	You mentioned that you say that men are not masculine.
	No, I think men masculine that know what he wants and he knows his value.
	His approach is very elegant, assertive, and planning and creating and putting the effort when you have one thing in mind to just go between the sheets.
	So it's a different vibe.
	You ask different questions.
	I'm a little.
	I want to explore this masculine thing really soon, though.
	You say a lot of men aren't masculine, but do you consider yourself feminine?
	I'm feminine.
	Very feminine.
	Are you?
	Yes.
	Are you submissive?
	I am submissive.
	I mean, look.
	Because my profession and my success, you think I'm not?
	Well, I mean, I don't think this is like overly exposing anything.
	But so we have rules here in the studio, and we asked you to take your shoes off.
	And you said, why?
	Because why?
	Do I have to take my shoes off?
	Here's the thing with being submissive or even just following anybody's rules.
	I don't need a fucking reason.
	I don't need to explain.
	As a woman, if you're going to be submissive and I tell, you don't question my authority.
	I know we're not dating, but I think you should actually show more deference and respect to a stranger when you're going into their house versus like a guy you're dating.
	I didn't even think it's a house.
	I thought it's the office.
	That's why I didn't know.
	Submission comes with trust, though.
	What you're talking about sounds like slavery.
	That sounds like slavery.
	I mean, no, it's not like slavery.
	So you're saying if you go over to somebody's house and they have like a no-shoes indoor policy, you're going to start questioning it.
	We don't know you, so we don't just get a message, man.
	You should get a door mash.
	If you go into somebody's house, if you go to somebody's house, it doesn't matter if I'm not.
	You should not ask any questions.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Yeah, you don't.
	You ask questions because you're trying to understand somebody's thought processes.
	Wait, you've never been to a house and somebody asked you to take their shoes off.
	Actually, in my house, you take off the shoes.
	She has the rule herself.
	That's true.
	But sure, I asked why because I would like to understand.
	Because I thought I'm walking into an office, a studio.
	I don't know I walk into a house.
	You need to expect.
	No, you don't need to explain.
	No justification.
	No, no, if there's a rule, if there's a rule, no justification.
	But you should have at least tell to me in the beginning, hey, I have certain rule and I would like you to accumulate or respect my rule.
	Give to me before I don't know you.
	You don't know me.
	Isn't it your instinct normally to see if you have to take your shoes off before you walk into somebody's house?
	But even if it's not and he says, can you take your shoes off?
	You're walking into somebody else's house.
	I ask why.
	You guys sent so many rules.
	However, you didn't say that we were going to be taking our shoes off.
	I would wear socks if I would have known that.
	I have heels in my bag right now because I thought like we can't wear heels because like I don't know so that they're not clicking.
	But we're not even wearing shoes.
	So why did it matter?
	Submitting.
	You just come inside.
	And it's like pouring rain outside.
	Yeah, you're obviously going to have like water and stuff on the bottom of your shoes.
	Even when you're outside, hold on a second.
	How is it in any way not reasonable to just ask somebody?
	Hold on a second.
	Wait until I finish.
	How's it not reasonable to just ask somebody to take their shoes off?
	Especially considering the weather.
	It is, but how is it reasonable to get upset when someone says why?
	It's drizzling.
	Maybe her feet was funky and she wanted to know if she really had to do it or she could conceal the funk of her feet.
	If you have funky feet, then you should try these products for that.
	You know what I mean?
	I have beautiful feet and I love my stiletto.
	It's very hard for me to let them go off my feet.
	Women should be so a good leader.
	Part of being a good leader is answering some questions you might or explaining.
	Yeah.
	I don't need no emotional intelligence to explain.
	Are you Scorpio?
	This is why astrology is bullshit because she has a totally wrong read on my horoscope.
	But I mean, look, it's a little different, but I'm trying to like approach it.
	Hey, stop.
	No sidebar.
	My bad.
	You've been on the show fucking five times.
	You can't be interrupting when other people are talking.
	So I know in a relationship, there's going to be certain dynamics, right?
	But like, I think if you're going over to somebody's place, we're not even talking about like a romantic type scenario.
	So it's like, if you're going into somebody's place, it's their rules.
	Like, I don't care how fucking stupid you think it is.
	If they're like, here, you got to wear this fucking in-and-out hat.
	Do I have one here?
	Where is it?
	I don't.
	Oh, here we go.
	If I'm like, if you want to come into this fucking studio, you got to wear this.
	And if like you don't want to do it, there's the fucking door.
	I don't need to explain myself.
	I can have whatever dumbass fucking rule I want.
	That's how it is.
	If it's your crib, you can have any, hey, no smoking in here.
	Why not?
	Wouldn't you be upset if somebody came to your house, was about to light up a cigarette, and you're like, hey, don't do that.
	And they're like, why not?
	You're like, hold on.
	I don't got to explain it to you.
	No is a total, is a complete sentence.
	No, period.
	It's a little bit.
	No is a complete sentence.
	Because not everyone smokes, but everyone wears shoes.
	So like if you say no, I would understand why.
	It's just the rule, though.
	Like, it doesn't really matter if everybody smells hot.
	You told me to wear that in-and-out hat.
	Would you not ask why?
	Be honest.
	But it is different, though, wearing an in-and-out hat.
	It's like a pretty extreme example.
	I don't know why you guys are laughing like there's some sort of a point that you've made, but taking your shoes off.
	Hold on a second.
	Wait.
	Taking your shoes off when you go into somebody's house is a really sort of basic thing.
	Wait, wait, hold on.
	Jake, not to interrupt you.
	Guys, he's speaking.
	We let you guys finish.
	You guys can't be interrupting.
	Don't be laughing at him while he's trying to explain this.
	Just let him talk.
	If you guys have a response, you can.
	But this show is going to be very frustrating for everybody if we're over talking each other, interrupting each other.
	Show some courtesy.
	Let people finish.
	Go ahead, Jake.
	Didn't mean to interrupt.
	Yes, we are going to be here for eight hours together.
	So it'll be best if we can not interrupt.
	But yeah, I mean, just taking your shoes off.
	That's a basic, universal thing.
	In places like Japan, for example, you can't go into somebody's house without taking your shoes off.
	So his rule there is so reasonable.
	I don't see how it's not reasonable in any way.
	But to the point that he's making it, it's more of a submission thing.
	He's questioning whether you're a submissive person or not.
	I am submissive and I like to accept anything and anyone when I explain.
	It has to be reasonable to me.
	I mean, you're going to tell me, hey, over here, people jump five feet.
	Okay.
	See you.
	This is.
	And you have the rule.
	Like, you have the rule in your own house.
	In my home, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So it's not like you probably have justifications of your own for why you want people to take their shoes off in your home.
	So it's kind of like you already know the reasons.
	Whatever the reasons you have are probably pretty similar to the reasons we have.
	We don't want people like, we have probably additional reasons too.
	We don't want people like dragging in, like dirt from the outside.
	It's raining, of course.
	Absolutely.
	And then also just noise too.
	Like shoes are a bit louder.
	So when you're walking, it creates more noise.
	I agree with you, but you sent to me a shopping list of instruction.
	There was no instruction for my stilettos.
	Actually, actually, we do say no heels.
	Although, to be charitable to you, our arrangement, like getting you on the show, was kind of last minute.
	So maybe you had your shoes on before.
	That's fine.
	In the rules, we do say like no heels.
	I'm not actually going to fault you on that.
	That's not a huge deal.
	But just because of like everything that we send you pre-show, that isn't some sort of like gotcha or like, oh, there might there, just because whatever you send via message doesn't prevent me from having additional rules that were not previously disclosed to you that I would otherwise request you to abide by.
	Like before somebody comes over to your house, do you always like tell them, by the way, before you come over, you're going to have to take your shoes off?
	Probably not.
	Absolutely.
	I prepare people.
	You tell them, like, every single person who's ever been to your house, you tell them, like, by the way, before you can't smoke in my house, like, you can't, you're going to have to take your shoes off at that point.
	No, if they ask to me if there is anything, you know, if they ask, oh, did you ask me if there were any rules?
	You sent to me at least, so I thought it should be on it.
	I sent you some pre-show information, but do you also remember when Damien here spent 10 minutes going over other rules too?
	So we're not going to disclose every single little thing in that thing.
	We're going to do like kind of the most important stuff and then some of the more like the things that we can just tell you once you're in studio, we're going to save that for when you're in studio.
	Darling, my shoes are off.
	My stilettos are there.
	Yeah.
	It's okay.
	That's okay.
	That's totally cool, but now we're having a conversation.
	You think I'm not submissive, but I think I am.
	I'm not having shoes.
	I don't know that question.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Let me explore this a bit further.
	So you said you were married, right?
	I was married.
	Right.
	And so your husband, who was, was he the leader in the household?
	Yes.
	He had the authority in the household?
	Absolutely.
	He wanted to move to Tennessee?
	Yes.
	Ah, and so he didn't, he wasn't the person to like, you guys were having conflict about that, right?
	No.
	Isn't that the reason for the divorce?
	He wanted to move to Tennessee.
	You wanted to stay here for your son's?
	No, the plan was I will follow him later on.
	Follow him later on.
	Yes, but he meet somebody when he moved there.
	Wait, when you say the plan, like, did he want you?
	Hold on.
	The plan was when my son's water polo career will end and start college, and I will follow him every time that my son has time off.
	We go to Tennessee back and forth to California and Tennessee.
	But I mean, didn't he originally want you to go to Tennessee with him?
	Originally, that was the plan, yes.
	Right, but you were like, No, I'm going to prioritize the water polo thing for my son, even though your husband is saying, No, maybe he can do water polo in Tennessee.
	It was the mutual agreement, was it?
	Yeah, because women say they're submissive, and then they'll argue, argue, argue, argue, and then the guy will finally be like, Fuck it, whatever.
	Oh, that's a mutual understanding.
	If he was like, I want you to come, and you like had like days upon days upon days of like back and forth discussion, oh, I don't know, I really want to prioritize this.
	That's not being submissive to your husband.
	If your husband was like, Hey, we're going to Tennessee, we can figure out the sons that you oh my god, what the fuck is going on today?
	Yeah, it's fine.
	The house in Manetta Beach was on both of us's names, so I don't think there was anything to argue about.
	I mean, I'm not sure what that has to do with the whole.
	I mean, do you think it could be the case?
	Like, he wanted you to go to Tennessee with him, you didn't?
	No, it was not.
	We stayed friends after, even so he got married.
	But I mean, I guess what I'm confused about is that It sounded like he wanted you to go with him to Tennessee.
	Was there any infidelity in the relationship with the move?
	No.
	But because he moved to Tennessee alone and you wanted to stay in California?
	Or I don't know where you were?
	I went back and forth.
	Okay.
	I mean, I don't know.
	He says, I want you to come to California.
	Tennessee excuse me.
	I want you to come to he didn't say I want you to come The agreement, the mutual agreement, don't change my words.
	Look, I don't know all the details.
	Go ahead.
	The detail and the mutual agreement was we buy a house in Tennessee and slowly, slowly, I'm going to move out there.
	In the process, he meets somebody there and I say, okay, good luck.
	I stay here.
	What not to understand?
	It was a mutual agreement to move.
	I mean, the way, look, I don't know all the details with anything.
	There's always a lot of information that you can't always convey.
	But the way you originally explained it, like the first thing when I asked about the nature of the divorce, is you said something along the lines of, my husband wanted to move to Tennessee.
	My son had this water polo career.
	I wanted to stay here.
	I mean, I'm curious why offer up this detail that now you're saying doesn't matter, but at least the way you originally explained it seems like that was a major cause for like the breakdown of the relationship.
	He wanted to move somewhere else.
	You wanted to stay here.
	I guess at the end, you came to a mutual understanding.
	But like if you're just telling him, no, no, no, I want to stay here and you're not kind of going with his will of like, I want to move us to Tennessee.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Mutual agreement and things just didn't develop the way we both planned.
	Why did he want to move to Tennessee?
	He wanted to go back to his roots to the mountains.
	We had a house over there.
	We bought together over there.
	It was great.
	The plan was initially to move there.
	But things happen along the way.
	So I guess my question is, what was the first thing he wanted?
	Did he want all three of like you, your son, him, well, his son also, to move to Tennessee?
	No.
	So just to be clear, he's married to, I guess, at that point, the love of his life.
	He has a son that he cares about and loves.
	He wants to move and not have you go.
	Do you see why I'm a bit confused?
	It was the process.
	We agree on a process, but it was the timing, the real estate to buy the house with the ranch that we wanted at the time.
	It was a great opportunity.
	And I say we agree together.
	You go ahead and I do the back and forth until we figure out with Pauli Waterpolo in college.
	Then we'll see what is the next step.
	Along the way, he meets somebody and he decides that's what he want.
	So.
	So just to be clear, he wanted to move, but he was fine with you guys from the very beginning.
	The very beginning, he was like, you guys stay here.
	I mean, I have to take your word for it.
	So I'll leave it at that.
	But what about you?
	Relationship status?
	I'm single.
	I've been single for the last six months.
	My longest relationship was like two and a half years.
	Okay.
	You said, sorry, six and a half months you've been single or sorry?
	Six months.
	Six months.
	And then two and a half years for your longest relationship?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	All right.
	The time period you've been single for six months.
	The two and a half year relationship, is that the one that ended six months ago?
	No.
	Who broke up with who in the two and a half year relationship?
	I did.
	And were you cheating on him?
	No.
	Okay.
	The six-month relationship, or sorry, six months ago.
	What was the period of time you were dating that guy?
	Probably for like seven months, eight months, something like that.
	Who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Relationship status?
	So currently I'm single.
	It's been like four weeks now.
	And my last partner, we were together for almost three years.
	My longest relationship is three years.
	The most recent relationship that ended about a month ago was a three-year relationship?
	Well, I've had another three-year relationship.
	So you've had two three-year relationships?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Who ended them?
	Me.
	Both of them?
	Okay.
	All right.
	So single for four weeks.
	Why did you break up with the most recent guy?
	You know, we had different paths, really.
	Not going to get too far into the details, but yeah, just a difference in, like, well, we were living together.
	So I like to live a certain way.
	He wasn't living how I would hope.
	He's dirty.
	So, you know.
	Is that what it is?
	He was unclean?
	It's not.
	No, it's not a hygiene thing at all.
	No.
	He would scour himself in the shower.
	It's not that.
	What was the problem?
	Really his attitude.
	Like, this is the way he'd act.
	What do you mean?
	What parts of his attitude?
	Just like short-tempered, little, like, overly, like, ego, egotistical type.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship was two years.
	All right.
	How long have you been single?
	Since 2021.
	All right.
	You've been any prospects or any dating in this past three, four years?
	No.
	So you've been single for like four years then?
	About?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Is it the two-year relationship the one that ended four years ago?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And who broke up with who?
	He broke up with me.
	Why?
	He was seeing another woman.
	Multiple.
	Multiple other women?
	Okay.
	And have you been on any dates or seen any guy for any period of time in the past four years?
	No.
	So you've been celibate for four years?
	Yes.
	Good for you.
	You better go, girl.
	Go, girl.
	Celibacy.
	There you have it.
	Jake, if you want to share.
	Yeah.
	Longest was a year and a half and dating to marry.
	All right.
	Rock and roll.
	So we're going to get into some of the pre-show notes here, but first we have a couple super chats we have to get to.
	Damien, have you been keeping an eye on the audio?
	There's a couple complaints from people.
	But Pelagic, this is called a straw man argument.
	She's totally deflecting using logical fallacy to dodge and gaslight manipulation.
	This is.
	I'm not sure.
	Big words.
	Thank you, Pelagic.
	They don't even know that.
	Trigger word.
	I do appreciate it, Pelagic.
	Thank you.
	The state of things, rumor office.
	Either way, it's Brian Space.
	Asking someone to take their shoes off at the entrance is the same as saying, this is my boundary.
	Any hesitation is lack of submission.
	All of y'all's submission is conditional and a headache.
	That is a good point.
	The state of things.
	If any of the panelists wish to respond to this, they can.
	I feel like the boundaries with the house is correct, but like you comparing house rules to being in a relationship, being a leader, a guy in a relationship's not the same.
	You might have to be a little more gracious.
	They might reflect into a relationship, right?
	How you act in your everyday life?
	I don't know.
	I might ask.
	I are in some strangers differently than my partner.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Let's say you're out at a restaurant and you're with a guy that you, I don't know, first aid.
	And he treats that waitress like shit.
	Well, the way that you treat somebody out in public isn't necessarily going to be an indicator of how he's going to treat you.
	However, despite this, if he treats that waitress like a piece of shit and is fucking rude to her, you don't think somewhere in your head, it doesn't even cross your mind.
	Is he going to treat me like this in some way or one day?
	You wouldn't be like, well, maybe it's okay.
	It does, definitely, but it's nuances in that.
	Like, us here, we don't know you guys that much.
	So you guys are setting your boundaries.
	We're going to question you a little bit more versus our partners or something like that because we know them for sure, trust their judgment, know that they have our best interests at heart.
	Not saying you guys don't, but it's just, it is a different situation.
	Not saying that anything can't be reflected from that, but it's a different situation.
	I mean, I don't understand this we're going to question you thing.
	Like, it's, I would actually agree if I was like, hey, wear that stupid in-and-out hat.
	You might ask, oh, why?
	But it occurs to me that asking somebody to remove their shoes at the front door is a not only commonly practiced, what's the term for like manners?
	Common practice.
	It's a common practice.
	I'd agree with that.
	House rules is house rules.
	It's a common practice.
	And even if it wasn't, she admitted to practicing it herself.
	So she would already be aware of the various justifications as to why somebody would want such a rule in place.
	You don't want dirt dragged in.
	You don't want dirty shoes on carpet.
	Whatever it is.
	Maybe it's when it comes to germs or bring, whatever it is, whatever it is.
	So as a woman, do you think women are always supposed to submit to every man that they meet?
	No.
	But what he's saying, though, is that that's a reflection of a certain personality type.
	And what it is, is it's a rejection of authority.
	Because in that particular instance, that's something that doesn't really require a question.
	Yeah, I'll take my shoes off.
	So he's saying that she is actually quite disagreeable rather than submissive.
	And he's trying to dig deeper to see how it reflects in the relationship.
	Don't disagree, I question that's not the same.
	And being submissive is a scale.
	Like you could be somewhere on that scale.
	Like you don't have to say yes to everything.
	It actually is not.
	It's not really a scale, actually.
	Because what it means is that you say yes to your man in what he wants to do.
	To your man.
	Listen, listen.
	Listen, listen.
	I understand the distinction.
	It's not funny.
	I understand the distinction between relationship and what happened here.
	And we've made the distinction about 20 times now when we say that what happened was a reflection of something that might happen in a relationship.
	Now we're talking about being in a relationship, okay?
	Everyone understand?
	Good.
	Okay.
	So in a relationship, though, it's quite distinct when you're talking about being submissive.
	Because if you get to choose when you're submissive or not, that just means that you're the boss.
	Can I add something?
	So I think that this issue is more of a manners etiquette thing than like showing if they're submissive to a man.
	I agree.
	Yes.
	It's more manners than like how you were brought up and being, I don't know, I'm Persian.
	So like we're taught from a young age to be really like kind.
	And when you go to somebody's house, it's like whatever they say goes.
	And then usually the host is always like offering things to the guest and everything.
	So it's more maybe a cultural thing and also etiquette rather than a measure of submission to a man.
	I would agree with you, but I think you can make certain inferences about somebody's behavior.
	And this all stems from she was saying like, oh, men are no longer masculine.
	Well, I don't disagree with that, but I think women are no longer feminine.
	And a component of femininity is submission.
	You guys want traditional men, but you don't want to be submissive.
	You want a dominant man.
	You want a leader, but you don't want to submit.
	And so we're not dating.
	This isn't a like relationship dynamic, but like I'm going to make an inference.
	Like, for example, if with that, if I see a girl being really combative and disagreeable, like if I'm on a first date with her and she's being disagreeable to the waiter or she's kind of like questioning something, not with me, but somebody else in a way that I'm like, like.
	Or if you go to somebody's house and she questions while she has to take her shoes off.
	Yeah, yeah.
	If like if she, that's actually a really good example.
	If I was on a date with a girl and I was going over to my buddy's house, if I was on a date with a girl and I was going over to my buddy's house and my buddy had a rule like, hey, you got to take your shoes off at the front door.
	And she was like, why?
	I would be like, that's not directed at me.
	That's not directed at me.
	But that's like, red flag for the relationship.
	It's like a personality measure.
	Like measuring what their personality is going to be.
	And also, that would be embarrassing in public.
	If you were to take them to someone's house and they would embarrass you by, you know, starting this thing about taking the shoes off.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	I'm like, this is an important relay.
	Like if it was like a work meeting or something and you're going over to the CEO's house for dinner, he invited you for like, oh, you're about to get a raise.
	You're about to get a promotion.
	And then you bring your girlfriend and the nice wife is like, oh, excuse me, dear, could we just have you take your shoes off at the front?
	And then she's like, why?
	Bro, that promotion is just over.
	If she's with her man, then she should probably turn to her guy and be like, why do you think he wants me to take my shoes off?
	No, no.
	Oh, my God.
	I mean, I don't think it's reasonable.
	I understand.
	Like, you should take your shoes.
	I didn't have a problem taking my shoes off since I got here.
	Sure.
	But I'm just saying, like, there's other ways you go about it that I wouldn't say is non-submissive.
	Like, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I feel like maybe you're right about how it comes on, like, you said it comes on a scale and you said it doesn't, but you said something about, oh, I'm sorry, my brain is fried.
	Fucking.
	But when you're talking about like personality traits, like agreeableness, being more disagreeable, that comes on a scale.
	Some people are less agreeable than others.
	You seem like a kind of like a disagreeable person.
	But men tend to be a little bit more disagreeable than women, but not by that much.
	I actually work with people and all my people love me and I have a greater view.
	It doesn't mean you're a bad person.
	It's not that I think you're trying to, it's okay.
	But what am I trying to do?
	What do you think I'm trying to do?
	I think both of you trying to walk really high volume on my stilettos, letting go at the door, but it's okay.
	It's okay.
	When I say that you seem like a disagreeable person, I'm also a very disagreeable person.
	You might have been able to tell.
	Brian's also a very disagreeable person.
	Doesn't mean you're a bad person.
	No, no, no.
	But I'm just saying, you know, it's like we turned the whole subject away.
	Wait, into the mic, into the mic.
	We turned the whole subject about me taking down my stilettos at the door.
	It's a bit like a 15-year-old.
	But I do think that in terms of relationships, though, it is a bit black and white when it comes to the best.
	It's not reflecting on who I am or my personality or my dating habits or behavior.
	Yeah, but can you see how it might be an indicator?
	Could be, you know, you don't know me.
	I don't, but we have to go off on what we've seen.
	So we've only known you for an hour.
	If you judge me on one thing, that's because of my shoes, me asking why.
	It's okay.
	To that, though, first impressions are super important.
	I bet every single girl here at this table has been on a first date with a dude, and the dude, you know, within 10 seconds, don't like this dude, don't want to see him again.
	You've already made up your mind.
	First impressions are, yeah, first impressions, super important.
	You guys look at a dude, he might not even open his mouth, and you've already decided never gonna be.
	Never gonna date this guy, never gonna sleep with him.
	He gets nothing.
	So, this idea that I mean, that like women operate the same way.
	You guys are gonna totally reject guys immediately.
	If he's not on point in the first five minutes of the date, it's over.
	I think that's too short.
	I think that's too short a time because I think I'd give them about the whole date.
	I'll give them the whole date.
	I'm patient enough that I could sit here.
	So, you're telling me, you're telling me that you haven't made up your mind within the first 10 seconds as to, like, have you had a one-night stand or hooked up with a guy?
	Yeah, whatever.
	It is what it is.
	You figured that out immediately.
	You don't, oh, and now you're assuming that, but I didn't, though, because maybe I'm thinking about it for a while.
	I actually, I went on the whole date and I'm like, ah, he did a couple of weird things, but then I go home and I'm thinking about it.
	I'm like, ah, it wasn't that bad.
	He only said he wouldn't take his shoes off at the door.
	You went home alone?
	Of course I went home alone.
	It's the first date.
	Well, he was talking about the hookups.
	Oh, the hookups didn't.
	Let's move on.
	You probably knew within the first like 10 minutes in that particular situation.
	How drunk are you?
	I think women tend to get a really good women tend to have a really good gauge on whether they like the guy pretty much straight away.
	I just wouldn't say it's within 10 minutes.
	I would give it longer than that for sure.
	Fair.
	Jake, I need to get up really quick to check the audio.
	You want to ask a question for the panel?
	All right.
	So we're going to do a scenario.
	It's a hypothetical scenario that you guys can engage with.
	If you were at a job, no sidebar conversations, guys.
	If you were at a job interview, but the job interview was for the man of your dreams.
	Imagine everything you could ever possibly want in a man.
	That's the guy.
	He's there.
	But what you've got to do is you've got to walk in to the interview and you've got to sell yourself.
	How are you going to sell yourself?
	How are you going to show him that you're special and different?
	Can we start on that?
	And that's a deep question.
	Does anybody feel like starting?
	I would just be myself because if it's meant to be, it'll work out.
	And what's yourself?
	I mean, I don't know.
	I would like to say that I'm like outgoing and funny.
	I'm nice.
	You know, there's a lot of things that go into me, but I think when you're around me, you'll pick up the vibe.
	And if you're not into that, that is what it is.
	Then you're obviously not my dream man because my dream man would accept me for who I am and how I bring myself to the table.
	Okay.
	And yourself?
	If it was for my dream man, I will listen to what he has to say to me because when you listen, they really tell to you who they really are.
	So I will bring some questions and see, you know, what and how we answer.
	So you're going to flip the script and interview him?
	Both ways.
	Yeah, I let him talk.
	I said.
	You said you're going to bring questions for him.
	Yeah, and I'm going to bring some questions.
	Okay.
	But you said the man of your dreams.
	So of course you have to ask somebody.
	No, you already know he's the man of your dreams.
	That's the whole hypothetical.
	Oh, I didn't understand that part.
	Yeah, so you already know he's the man of your dreams.
	Okay.
	Everything you could ever want.
	What are you going to do?
	So I'm just going to be me and let him lead the way.
	Absolutely.
	What if he sits there and he's got his feet up on the table?
	Yeah.
	And he's doing this like Mr. Burns.
	Okay.
	And he's just waiting for you to talk.
	Okay.
	In like a really sort of like mysterious, handsome sort of way.
	So I'm just going to break a joke to break the silence.
	Bring something funny.
	Okay.
	And yourself?
	I guess I would just be myself.
	That's a hard question to answer.
	What is yourself?
	I don't know.
	Try speaking to the microphone.
	I don't know.
	I could be a lot of things.
	I could be goofy.
	I could be intelligent.
	It depends on the vibe, where we're at.
	But if he says, if his question to you is, tell me about yourself.
	Like, I want to know what makes you different, what makes you special, and what you could bring to my life.
	If he's the man of my dreams, I'm not going to have to sell myself.
	This is not going to be a pitch.
	You don't think you're going to have to do that?
	I don't think he's going to love it or he's going to hate it.
	You don't think that you would have to sell yourself to the man of your dreams?
	Definitely not.
	You just have to appear.
	Okay.
	And yourself?
	I really agree with all of them.
	And she said about the questions.
	I agree with that because if he's the man of my dreams and I know what I want, well, what does he want?
	Everything you could possibly think of, he's got it.
	So now what would you say?
	So I would ask him what he's looking for in a moment.
	And I would also try to be that for him.
	And, you know, of course, come with all my natural qualities.
	And yeah, over time, I mean, over time, a room for a few minutes is not going to let you know who I really am.
	We would spend time together to reveal that in time.
	Okay.
	I'd be myself.
	Come up with a new answer, guys.
	I would enjoy walking there with you.
	Whatever that self is.
	Whatever that self is, what is it?
	Tell us what it is.
	I'm Yami.
	If you know me, then you know me.
	Okay.
	And if you don't, you'll get to know me.
	If my dream man would be sitting interviewing, waiting.
	Like, I felt like the idea is that it's a hypothetical.
	So with a hypothetical, it's an imaginary scenario.
	It's designed to get an answer.
	I would just offer to be his best friend.
	And then if it grows into something more than that, that's cool because I feel like my dream guy could just be my friend too because I'm cool with just having a cool guy friend.
	You know, being best friends is the most important thing.
	The relationship and all that could come after.
	Or whatever you guys decide to do.
	So I would just be like, let's be friends first.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I would be like, I would definitely be myself and then just start off as friends.
	You know, because maybe he is not my dream man.
	You know, maybe he's not.
	Within the hypothetical, he is your dream man.
	Okay, all right.
	Well, I mean, I would just try to, you know, be friends with him and see where it goes.
	And if he desires me, then he desires me.
	If he doesn't, next, you know?
	Okay.
	So if I would meet the man of my dream, first of all, I would look at his eyes and then I'm sure I would be very shy because when you meet the man who you really like, it's like hard to look in his eyes.
	I would smile, I would shy, I would be red, and I just feel like a little bit flirt, but it's coming naturally.
	And we have just a little topic.
	And I'm a very strong woman, but when I meet the right man, I become very like a kitten.
	And we will see what will happen after.
	So you just sell yourself in any way?
	It's not a self, it's a natural behavior.
	When you meet the right man with the right energy, it's like it's maybe it's only with me working like that, but I feel like I want to be weak and I want to be behind this man and I want no, I don't care what you start to mention this beautiful man and actually say when he be stronger than me and that he take the situation as he's in his hands.
	Okay, so we're going to be able to do that.
	And a little he will point out me and then yes.
	Fantastic.
	Okay, now we're going to go for one more round.
	Now, so the idea of the hypothetical is to test your answers and to see what you guys obviously come up with.
	Put your ideal man in mind, right?
	This guy's tall, handsome, he's successful, he's busy, he's on his grind and everything.
	What do you think this guy wants?
	What do you think he wants?
	Go.
	I think what I think he wants.
	He wants someone to confide in and be there for him.
	Like, probably as a busy man, you have a lot of conflicts throughout your day.
	So, somewhere that he can come home and feel comfortable and feel like, you know, we can have a conversation.
	Say there was a problem.
	Like, we can have a conversation and not get all up in our feelings and feel stressed out by, I don't know, just someone that's there for them.
	Because it's hard nowadays to have someone who genuinely cares and you feel like you can confide in them no matter what.
	So just to be that for somebody else, I bet that's what they want.
	Okay.
	From my experience and my question and talk with men of all levels, I think men, first thing they like is loyalty and somebody that can listen and understand.
	Somebody that they can come to and talk on any subject and they find it smart and somebody that can give them some time advice.
	This is a great partner when you can be a little bit of everything together.
	I would just want to be his peace.
	Simple.
	You think he would want peace?
	Yeah, especially if he's successful.
	Obviously, he's doing something that's important.
	Most people don't have someone they can confide in and speak to.
	Yeah, I would just want to be his peace.
	Anything else you can think of?
	Nope, that's fine.
	What does it mean to be someone's peace?
	That could be a lot of different things.
	Sometimes they need a shoulder to cry on, maybe someone to put a smile on their face.
	This guy's someone who never cries.
	That sounds like a problem.
	That sounds like a major problem that needs to be fixed.
	Someone who doesn't cry?
	Yes.
	Why does water emotion?
	Why do you have to summon tears?
	Why do you have to have moisture coming from your face to be normal?
	To get something out.
	There's obviously built-up tension inside of you.
	If you feel like you have to cry about it, there's some sort of overwhelming feeling inside of your body.
	And if you're not tapping into those feelings that make you feel like you're going to cry, there's something wrong.
	You need to express that and get that out before you put it out in different ways.
	Because if you're not crying or feeling some sort of sadness when you're overwhelmed or sad, then you're definitely putting it out in a different way.
	Oh, you want to fight?
	Oh, you want to push someone away or act a certain type of way.
	Like, there's something behind not feeling able to cry.
	Men who don't cry is not available emotionally.
	There we go.
	What if they love going to the gym and just punching the shit out of the boxing bag?
	And that's the way that they do it, and they never cry.
	But then that's not, that's more than, that's not just focusing on yourself.
	Tell me how it's different.
	Tell me how one is a better emotional release than the other.
	It's called suppressing.
	When you go to the gym, you elevate your endorphin.
	When you're emotional, you lower all your guards and your walls and you're actually submissive a little bit.
	Not submissive, but you're not.
	So you want the man to be submissive again.
	Anyways, back to what you were saying.
	How is it a better or worse release of energy?
	Because I would definitely claim that going to the gym and hitting the boxing bag for an hour is a good idea.
	I think that's really a problem.
	But it's the same thing because what you essentially said is that this is like an energy buildup.
	You've got things inside you and you need a release, right?
	So if you need to release it, and then my way of doing that is going to the gym and hitting the bag for an hour, and then your way of doing it is to cry.
	Like, why is my way worse?
	I'm not saying that it's worse.
	I just think that it's not, you're not tapping into all of it.
	You're not tapping into your actual emotions.
	Okay, we're getting out the anger.
	That's anger is a mask of sadness or something else.
	It's not just anger.
	You don't just get angry and be angry for no reason.
	So you think that somebody can't cut you off in traffic, but you're not actually angry yourself.
	Okay, but you're gonna, no.
	Someone cuts you off in traffic, you're angry, and you're gonna go punch a punching bag about it.
	Come on, there's something you need to work on.
	So what I said was: if somebody cuts you off in traffic and you get angry about it, does that mean that you're masking sadness?
	No, no, no.
	Well, that's what you just said.
	I feel like crying is something deeper than just anger.
	Anger probably follows up on it because it's like something else.
	And also, maybe you're so upset in traffic because it triggered you in some way.
	Maybe something else happened a long time ago.
	And when that guy cut you off, you were like, ooh, that pisses me off so bad.
	And you're like, wait, why does this piss me off so bad?
	I'm just driving in my car.
	Or maybe you're just angry because you get cut off.
	And you wanted to say something?
	Yes.
	So people were saying that men are feminine these days.
	Like they're not as masculine.
	And I think a man crying is like very feminine and make them not masculine.
	I agree.
	If a guy cries, it's such a instant turnoff.
	And like, it's pretty much the same with all women, but they'll lie to you and say that.
	No, I agree.
	That's not a turnoff.
	I really like it when my man is like weeping on my shoulders.
	It's just a total.
	I'm not saying that, but I'm not saying cry about everything in the world that ever makes you happy, like ever made you mad.
	But I'm saying if you really feel that much emotion, to let it out and cry, I mean, that shouldn't be a problem.
	That should not be something that you're avoiding doing.
	Yeah, but do you understand why, based on what you guys all just said, which is that it's very unattractive for a man to cry?
	Do you understand why there are certain cultural parameters that are put up and cultural walls that are put up for men, which means that they have to find other ways to get around these emotional states?
	Because the reason why you're actually not very attracted to a man who cries is because every fiber of your being is designed to be attracted to a man who can be strong in hard times, right?
	So if he's crying, instantly you're going to think to yourself, gosh, what if something goes wrong like financially or what if there's an intruder or what's he going to do?
	Is he just going to collapse and cry?
	So, I mean, if he has a family member who's just died and he's just heard the news and there's like something crazy has just happened, you can understand that like release of emotion because that sort of thing does happen.
	However, if he's just like crying all the time, then that's or crying over things that he can just sort of deal with, then that's another thing.
	But also, guys don't, like, with me, for example, I just don't ever feel the need to do that.
	Like, if I've got a problem and it's like really something that's eating away at me, for the most part, I'm going to give one of my brothers a call or I'm going to give one of my friends a call and we're going to have a really logical conversation and we're going to fix the problem.
	However, if you guys are really emotional about something and you come to me about it, what do you want me to do?
	You want me to listen and not give you a solution.
	You want me to just make sure that you feel heard, right?
	That's the difference between men and women.
	Sometimes.
	Yeah.
	Because men are their first instinct is to, okay, so how can I fix this problem?
	Whereas when you talk to a woman, they're like, okay, I'm going to let you vent.
	I'm going to let you get that out.
	I'm not saying that a man should just cry every time there's an issue and they're so overwhelmed.
	I'm saying if there is, okay, wait, hold on.
	Hold on.
	So.
	You got this?
	A man shouldn't cry, you know, every single time it's a problem.
	But if he can fix that problem, what would you be crying for?
	Okay, I understand.
	But if there's something so deep, someone died and you're not crying about it, what aren't you releasing?
	What aren't you taking care of mentally?
	Because there's nothing you can do to fix that.
	But earlier in the conversation, you were saying it's like a buildup of emotions.
	And there might be something that you think of from when you were 12 that made you really sad that when the person cut you off in traffic, you just won't cry.
	That was sort of your logic, that we all have these build-ups of anxiety and emotion.
	And we do.
	I mean, we're all creatures who sort of carry all different kinds of life experiences.
	Some of them make you sad.
	Some of them make you happy.
	We're all going to die one day.
	We all have to sort of be cool with that at some point.
	And, you know, we all have hopes of heaven and fears of hell.
	So I understand that.
	However, with guys, generally, we tend to just deal with things completely different to you.
	Women actually enjoy crying a lot of the time.
	They'll sit there and they'll be like, all right, it's cry time.
	Yeah, I'm going to cry.
	And I'm going to sit here for an hour and I'm just going to cry.
	And they can do shit, like clean the dishes or they can go walk around their house and talk to a friend.
	Whereas if a guy does cry, generally, that's something like really serious.
	It's serious.
	And you normally want to be completely alone or maybe in the with that girl that you're being.
	No, no, no.
	Or with one of your very, very close friends who you can really trust.
	Like a serious conversation.
	They all make fun of each other.
	Why do you feel comfortable crying in front of some men that literally they'd be like, oh, your jacket looks stupid, fool?
	Hey, you think my jacket looks stupid?
	No, no, no.
	That was just my example.
	No, but in terms of men crying in front of each other, I think that that's a myth.
	It's something that females think that guys do.
	But I've had different men who have confided in me in like really, really serious times when they're going through something immense and then they've cried in front of me.
	And normally it's like, I'm not going to sort of, you know.
	Console you.
	Like pat your head for half an hour.
	But if that happens, then I'm going to sit there with you.
	I'm probably going to be silent for a little while.
	And then once that's done, we're going to come to a solutions-based.
	We're going to have a solutions-based conversation, right?
	But the key difference is that when women do that to you, if you start trying to give them solutions, they're like, just shut up and just listen to me.
	Because did you give the moment of silence like you did for your homeboy?
	With the women, you give pretty much all silence.
	That's all you do.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'm just saying, like, to be with a man who doesn't cry at all is not healthy.
	I'm not saying he should always cry.
	I'm not saying that it's not okay to cry.
	But you have to understand that there are a lot of guys like that, though, who would never cry, even if something, the worst thing you can ever imagine happened.
	There is a difference between like crying and shedding tears because crying to me sounds like you're just like whining about it.
	Whining about it.
	Girls on the phone with their friends crying.
	Like, that's crying.
	If you like take a moment and like shed some tears, you can like by all means do that and not lose any respect for me because I'll understand the situation.
	And if I am your piece, I will understand why that's going on.
	And I've had my man cry in front of me before.
	Shed a tear and then go punch that punching bag you were talking about.
	Show me how strong you are.
	Come on, we're going to get through this, baby.
	Well, I mean, I don't think that if you would shed a tear, then you would do that next necessarily.
	But generally speaking, there are so many guys who I know who are like the most sort of emotionally intelligent, if we want to use that word, men that I know, that would never shed a tear.
	I would never see them shedding a tear.
	If we want to use the word emotional intelligence, then they're completely emotional intelligent because they're completely emotionally intelligent.
	And the reason why is because whatever comes their way, they can process it in real time and not react to it, not have an emotional reaction to it.
	And I think that that actually is the highest form of emotional intelligence.
	Because to only use it when you need it.
	Yeah.
	Whereas women these days will tend to say these guys aren't emotionally intelligent.
	They're not emotionally available.
	What was that?
	To be like emotionally, to not be emotionally intelligent.
	Well, would you agree with me that generally the sentiment these days in society is that men aren't emotionally intelligent enough?
	And women are the emotionally intelligent ones.
	And the reason why is because men don't show emotion, right?
	I think they think that an outward reflection or an outward demonstration of emotion is showing that you're emotionally intelligent.
	I think today the problem is every guy shows all their emotions.
	And whether they do it in an aggressive or a weird way, they're still showing immense amounts of emotion.
	So, to say, like, oh, I want a guy who, you know, is emotionally intelligent would be someone who knows when their emotions are appropriate.
	Here's what I think you guys really want.
	And here's, and I think that this would be a characteristic of everybody's dream man in here, the one who you had meant to sell yourself to before.
	I think that you guys would want a man who's completely stoic, doesn't have emotional reactions, doesn't have emotional reactions to you and to your outburst, is able to leave the house, go to the gym, come back and have a rational conversation, and is able to be the sort of sturdy rock face that your waves of emotion crash into.
	Well, I think that the vast majority of women, so this is what this is what women will say: that they want to have a man who they can connect with emotionally like that.
	But no woman really wants that.
	What they want is a man who's going to leave that situation if it's getting emotional and heated and then come back later and be like, all right, we're going to have a conversation about this now.
	Please don't leave me.
	I don't think every woman is like that.
	And I don't think crying automatically equals weakness.
	I think that's what it is.
	Like, I feel like there's nothing wrong with saying it's here.
	It's still handling your business.
	Something can hurt you, and you still find a solution to that and take a moment to cry.
	I don't personally view that as weakness, or I want my man to be tough all the time.
	That is how would you feel, though, if your man cried in public and your friends were there?
	Oh, hell no.
	I don't even cry in public.
	I don't cry in public, so you should.
	This is what I'm saying, though.
	And sort of furthering on from that last point, that generally women want a man who is, to the outside world, he's very stoic, and he's like got this sort of aggressive and dominant and forges his own path in life.
	But then on like a cold Sunday morning, you want to see behind the veil, maybe just a little bit.
	I think that generally speaking, women tend to want that.
	Just in moments when he's with you, then you maybe see behind the veil a little bit.
	I think the right person shows you both sides.
	He shows you his masculine, he shows you his sensitive side too.
	It's again, have to do with how available he is emotionally and mentally.
	It's funny because there's been a lot of studies done on what women actually are aroused by.
	And one of the books that I find really interesting is called A Billion Wicked Thoughts.
	And it's by a bunch of Google engineers.
	And what they do is they got a billion Google searches from women and to see what women's pornographic fantasies were.
	Can you guys guess what they would have been?
	No.
	I wouldn't want to.
	Gay porn.
	That wasn't one of them.
	So some of the most watched sort of adult content for women.
	Thank you.
	Billionaires, vampires.
	How do you know they're a billionaire?
	Billionaires, vampires.
	It's going to make sense in a second, I guarantee.
	Werewolf, surgeon, and pirate.
	So they have beasts.
	But what women did they ask?
	What level?
	No, no, no.
	It was completely anonymous because it was billions of different Google searches.
	Why would you want anyone to know that?
	Let me land.
	Google searches.
	So what are the most popular movies and TV shows that we've seen women?
	Fucking, since you said vampires would be like Twilight and Franklin.
	Does that now shock you that vampires was a part of it?
	It doesn't shock me.
	It's just gross.
	Nogebook.
	The movie Nogebook.
	Yeah, but he built her a house.
	That's the type of right.
	He's very competent.
	What else?
	And he sure did cry.
	He sure did cry.
	So I'm not sure.
	What's the most popular book, especially in recent times that women have bought?
	I recently got a girl.
	Exactly right.
	50 Shades of Grey.
	What's he?
	He's a billionaire.
	And what he is.
	He's a beast to the outside world, but then she gets to tame him.
	It's like a beauty in the beast.
	How does she do these surveys?
	She literally gets tied up and beat, and he's like, oh, yeah.
	Well, I mean, to her, he warms to her in the end, right?
	Have you guys ever seen them?
	There's a movie called 365, I think.
	And it's about an Italian mob boss who kidnaps this woman for a whole year, and then after the year, they eventually fall in love.
	That's like the same thing.
	But women are obsessed with that movie.
	Why are they obsessed with that movie?
	I've never seen that.
	Why are they so turned on by that movie?
	Because he's a dangerous mob boss that falls in love with her and then shows her a bit of a different side, right?
	So all this to say that the beauty and the beast archetype is something that is deeply, deeply ingrained within women.
	And even that movie, Beauty and the Beast, was made for that particular reason as well.
	Because women want a beast who they can take.
	I think also we all, as children, we've been brainwashed that we have to have some type of relationship because we grow up in a mother and a father and a family thinking this is the ultimate.
	How about invest in yourself?
	Grow yourself.
	So you think that it's better.
	Is that brainwashing?
	The type of stuff you put.
	The stuff they put on TV, they put to you this perfect family, you know, the mother, the father, the children.
	Supposed to be.
	That's how you get to the bottom of the channel.
	Just to be clear, you think it's brainwashing for there to be a mother and a father?
	No, it's brainwashing to think that a beast is good.
	A beast?
	No, no, no.
	It's the archetype.
	The archetype is beauty and the beast, right?
	So when I say beast, I'm talking about the archetypal figure of the hyper-masculine guy.
	The guy who locks you in a cellar in the basement with his tacos.
	Look, I'm not the one who was watching it on repeat.
	That was women who were doing that.
	Women are obsessed with that movie.
	They're obsessed with 50 Shades of Grey.
	They get their eroticism through reading.
	What type of men?
	I mean, what type of movies and books do men read?
	And what shows them what they like?
	Men are visually stimulated.
	Women are narrative stimulated.
	I'm not reading no book.
	I'm trying to see some teddies.
	You guys probably all read fairy poems.
	What?
	No.
	No.
	Don't lie to me.
	That beauty and the beast archetype.
	I don't want to read that.
	Wanting to feel special.
	I think everybody wants to have that special part of somebody.
	Oh, this person is just like this for me.
	Men don't want their women giving it up to everybody.
	It's the same way.
	Like, I don't want you showing that vulnerable side to everybody.
	It's the same way.
	I don't think it's about wanting to tame a beast.
	It's about wanting to feel special that I get a certain part of you that nobody else does.
	It's the intimacy and vulnerability.
	But it's also the representation of the masculine archetype that women desire.
	And even if they don't say they desire it, all of the scientific research shows that that is what they gravitate towards.
	And that's what arouses.
	And I'm going to see me when I'm walking with my man and be like, oh, I ain't going to mess with her.
	Yeah, they don't like feminine men.
	But anyways, we didn't get through the whole job interview thing before.
	That's fine, though.
	But all that to say with the job interview, that it's interesting to see because not one of you guys said during the job interview what you're going to bring to his life and what you can do.
	Actually, I did.
	By showing myself, I did finish.
	You just talked about yourself.
	But like in the initial one, which was off the cuff.
	It was a little bit of a distance.
	I was like, I bring my whole deck so I could do a presentation?
	I'm just kidding.
	I don't think you said that.
	But yeah, so it was interesting to see that.
	But the initial one, no one said it.
	And that was a raw study.
	The initial one that I said was that I would bring my authentic selves.
	And I think that that within itself brings us a lot to the best.
	That's about who?
	It's about you.
	Yeah, that's who I'm speaking for.
	Who else am I speaking for?
	When you say how do you, I know you're very confused by it, but when you say how do you sell yourself to somebody, you're meant to say, what can I bring to your life?
	Oh, I've got a big one.
	And I'm very thoughtful and I care.
	like what do you want me to say you're gonna you're gonna say uh you're gonna take my shoes off when i come inside Yeah.
	Can you carry me?
	Can you carry me to the front?
	Actually, or at least just don't refuse to.
	That would be a good idea.
	You were on a right path.
	Who said that you're going to ask him questions?
	Was that you?
	What we didn't finish?
	Ask questions.
	You know, you said that you were going to ask him questions, yeah?
	I said I'm going to ask, yeah.
	Yeah, right.
	I thought that might have been a good answer if it was followed to a conclusion, which was not the logical conclusion.
	But then you said he's just going to sit there like this and I say, I'm going to break the silence.
	Yeah, I know, but that's irrelevant.
	But what we were talking about when we said that was that I thought that there was going to be someone who took it to a logical conclusion and was actually asking him about what how can I help you?
	What about it?
	What about yourself?
	How can I benefit?
	We would ask our answers.
	Well, it's funny because you guys are all taking the piss out of it.
	I can't be at your service.
	Exactly.
	Like, how can I be your service?
	But God forbid, God forbid, you actually have to serve the man that you're with.
	I don't think that my dream man wants me to crawl in the door.
	Who said that?
	And lay on the floor and say, take me, take me, I'll give me anything for you to bring me because now you're a thirsty bitch and I don't like you.
	You're a whore.
	You probably do that for everybody.
	See, you guys have just completely failed 100% to grasp anything I was just saying.
	It's actually quite impressive how quickly the point just flies over your head.
	But what I'm saying is that instead of doing whatever you were just like, whatever crawling you were just doing, the idea is that you walk.
	The idea is that you walk in.
	I will.
	Thank you.
	The idea is that you walk in and you say, and you observe the guy, who he is, and you sort of try and ascertain how you could bring value to his life.
	And then maybe you have a few questions to ask him about what he does, what his needs are, how I can help you.
	And then you can say whether or not that's something, a duty you'd be willing to fulfill.
	Because you know what?
	In marriage, people have duties, even the women.
	That's true.
	I agree with that.
	I don't think that's wrong, but I don't think that if you're going to be the big, strong man that you're going to be, I have to just ask you and figure it out.
	You should tell me, right?
	We're trying to be silly.
	So you'd never ask your dream man, hey, hey, honey, is there anything I can do for you today?
	Come on, yeah, now that I'm with you, yeah, today.
	But when you came up to me and you, why was you sitting here like this?
	Okay, that's not my dream man.
	One.
	But two, here's what I need from you.
	I need you to do this for me, do this for me, do this for me.
	Can you do that?
	If my answer is anything other than yes, then I'm done.
	Yeah, see, the difference is, though, I can have, if I was that guy, right, just say I'm everybody's dream man, and then I have a bunch of women walking into the room, and then I'm going to tell them all, I want you to do this, this, this, this, and this.
	You know what they're all going to say?
	Okay, yeah, okay, I'll do that.
	Oh, yeah, that's me.
	But if I have them come and sell themselves, and somebody and someone comes in and asks those questions and is really observant of myself, then it's going to set her apart because you know what it shows?
	Initiative.
	And actually, men like women who have initiative.
	I hear your point.
	That's good.
	All right.
	We need to get into a couple things.
	I did hear the term mansplain, though.
	I know we investigate that a little bit.
	When you say mansplain, can you define that so we understand it?
	When men explain stuff that we obviously understood, but we were joking.
	Joking about the explanation, or I'm just confused.
	Well, he was mansplaining a question he already asked that we already answered.
	Were you mansplaining it, Jay?
	No, well, if mansplaining is based on the fact that you already understood, then you are sorely mistaken with your terms.
	I kind of think mansplain is a bit of a sexist term.
	You know, it's kind of, you know, it's kind of, well, yes, I feel like women would be very upset if there was a term like she laborating.
	She laborating?
	And you're, I dismiss whatever you're trying to tell me.
	I simply dismiss it by saying, oh, well, you're she-laberating.
	Don't want to hear it.
	Don't want to hear your she laboration.
	So I just think, you know, putting man before explain, mansplaining.
	I mean, like, for example, wait, hold on.
	I have the perfect example.
	Let's change man.
	Let's change it to black splaining.
	Is it racist?
	Hold on.
	Is it racist?
	Mind you.
	Did we explain a black term or what do we explain?
	Hold on.
	Mind you, this is a term I would never use, but is that a racist term?
	No, you just made that shut up.
	Well, let's assume.
	Okay, did I explain that?
	Hold on.
	How is it not the same?
	Because the black people aren't the oppressors.
	Oh, men are.
	Men are the oppressors.
	So yeah, y'all can take that little man splaying.
	Yeah, that little discrimination.
	Because y'all, if we could submit.
	White explain.
	If we said white splain, we could say that.
	Oh, you can say, we can say white splain because they're the oppressors.
	Listen, I was talking to my man today.
	Wait.
	We can say white splain, though.
	I was talking to my man today.
	He was like, here's the difference between a man and a woman speaking.
	A man is thinking about how the other man is going to think about it.
	Like, he's thinking about all the men because they all think the same.
	You can predict the guy the way that they think.
	But as a woman, they're speaking for only themselves.
	And in reality, a man is already going to collectively make everything that you say about every woman in the room.
	You hear me or no?
	So you're saying men make things generalized?
	Yes, 100%.
	Versus women make things their specificity or individualness.
	Yes.
	Women.
	I mean, maybe every once in a while, oh, yeah, like all women.
	No, I don't even have an example for that.
	Like, oh, all women love when a man is strong.
	No, I like girls.
	Like, what are you talking about?
	Have you ever said men suck?
	What do they suck on?
	Bro, that was the most actually retarded answer ever.
	What you'll actually find is that when women and men receive information, men tend to compartmentalize information, whereas women tend to take all of the information, rub it all together like this, and then make it about themselves.
	Exactly.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Is that a woman is thinking about themselves and a man is thinking collectively as a man is a one.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Logically.
	Okay.
	Whereas women think emotionally.
	Whatever the word you want to use is, they're thinking of them as a collective, whereas a woman isn't.
	Stop the prattle.
	Stop the prattle.
	I don't know what that.
	So let's explore these terms a little bit.
	So you said there's an oppressor-opressed dynamic.
	Is that your position between men and women, that there's an oppressor-press dynamic between men and women?
	I didn't say that.
	No, I don't know.
	So that's just your position.
	Yeah.
	But you don't think it's sexist to say.
	And if it is.
	Is that man splaining?
	And if it is.
	Hold on, bro.
	I can only talk to one person at a time.
	So going back to this before I was so rudely interrupted.
	You were fighting today.
	Yeah.
	He was talking to you, and I was hoping to have a conversation with you.
	She rudely interrupted both of us.
	So I'm just trying to better understand.
	So you don't think mansplaining is sexist?
	No.
	Okay.
	Would the term blacksplaining be racist?
	You just made that shit up.
	I don't care.
	No, but would it be?
	No, like, let's say you were telling me.
	Give me the definition.
	Whatever.
	How about if you were trying to explain, for example, the history of redlining to him, and he goes, oh, why are you blacksplaining?
	We live in a table.
	You guys just made this shit up.
	I don't even care.
	I mean, we did make up the hypothetical, yes.
	That's true.
	So is it racist?
	No, because you guys made that shit up.
	But hold on.
	I mean, let's assume we did make it up.
	If you just take an analysis of the actual term black splaining, which by the way, I think that's a racist term.
	I would never like dismiss a, if a black person was explaining something to me, I would never just dismiss their position.
	Oh, okay, that's black splaining.
	So I think that's racist.
	I think you should also think that's racist because I think that would be deeply offensive to black people.
	Let me get upset with you.
	I mean, it, well, no, I'm not a proponent of the term.
	I'm against the term.
	You just made it up.
	I mean, you could probably Google this and people have probably used it before.
	But whether I made it up.
	Yeah, I mean, it actually doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter at all because what he's doing is he's using an analogy, right?
	And he's using black splaining, whether he made it up or not, to see whether or not your logic is consistent and whether you're actually morally consistent with your mansplaining and with black splaining.
	If you think that's between sexism and race, I don't care about either.
	Me personally, they are both one in the same.
	Yes, you're correct.
	Yes, mansplaining could be sexist.
	Maybe you deserve to be sexualized a little bit because women have been going through it their whole life.
	Well, no, it's not sexualizing, but okay.
	I haven't been sexualized at this time.
	Okay, sexists, making all it's women, women, men, men.
	Women and sexists.
	Go ahead.
	Is it a podcast of one person already?
	Hold on.
	Look.
	Because 40 minutes you speak, we don't speak.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Don't forget to ask us questions.
	Hey, hey, first off, there's a panel of 10 people here total.
	Have you ever run a podcast?
	Have you ever run a podcast?
	It's difficult.
	Look, people are going to have their time to speak.
	We spent five, ten minutes talking about your 100 dates.
	You've gotten maybe the second.
	I mean, I wasn't here when Jake was here.
	You've already gotten a lot of attention.
	You'll get a little bit more, okay?
	But like, it's not your job as a guest in the panelist to dictate to me.
	Oh, I have not, I don't feel like I've been given an adequate amount of time to speak in the past 10 minutes.
	What?
	So, can explain.
	How about this?
	If I want to talk to her for the next two hours and all of you have to shut the fuck up for the next two hours, I'm not going to do that because I'd love to hear from all of you.
	But if I was inclined to just talk to, in fact, I decide I just want to talk to Jake for the next two hours about fucking Australian.
	I'm intercepting.
	I want to talk about Australia.
	I think that's wrong.
	Well, I'm going to fucking do it.
	We're going to talk about oppression.
	We Australians are the most oppressed out of everyone.
	Shit.
	So, I'm going to try to involve other people here, but she's made a comment.
	I'm going to address it.
	Are you dissatisfied with the amount of tension you're currently receiving?
	Can I explain?
	Sure, go ahead.
	It was not noticed to you.
	It was more to her because you asked a question and she starts talking, talking, talking, talking.
	It's like about we respect each other.
	It's about that.
	So you're asking me to shut the fuck up.
	Can you please do us a favor?
	Turn around and tell her to shut the door.
	Yeah, tell me.
	Shut the fuck up.
	You have the.
	Whenever you want to speak to me, if you do, we'll speak to you more.
	This is his house.
	He is the main.
	So he needs to control the situation.
	Put a man in control of me.
	I'm okay.
	I'm all right.
	I didn't say I was a submissive one.
	I lag.
	I lag.
	You just gotta hop in.
	If you got something to say, just say it.
	It's gotta hop in there.
	Yeah, that's a good point, Rebel.
	If you got something to say, but look, if somebody jumps in, I'm gonna try my best to try to bring everybody into the conversation.
	But look, it's the reality of a panel show like this.
	Some people are a bit more conversationally dominant.
	They're gonna have more input.
	Some people don't have input on the topic.
	I don't think everybody is gonna get an equal amount of time here, but I'm gonna try my best to try to get everybody in it.
	And that's why we have the questionnaire, which we're gonna get into soon.
	That'll give everybody an opportunity, some other questions.
	So, yeah.
	Let's try to wrap up.
	Let's try to wrap up on the conversation that was being had.
	So what was your thing?
	Oh, no, I'm done.
	I don't even remember at this point.
	Tell me that mansplaining.
	I didn't mention mansplaining.
	All I said was that they're one in the same.
	Like, yes, one is sexist and one is not sexist.
	Let me hear your take.
	Let me hear it.
	Mansplaining is not sexist.
	That's just the end of the take.
	There's no one.
	Men recognize that they can mansplain.
	I've seen it.
	Yeah, they're like, oh, I'm speaking logically.
	I'm speaking logically.
	Speaking logically has the same arrow.
	How about this?
	So do you guys think, like, but it's not just a man explaining something.
	It's like there's another component of it.
	The man is explaining it how in a negative way?
	Like, no, he's not even condescending.
	He's just saying it as how every man would think.
	Well, then we should start saying womplaining.
	So, so womanplaining.
	I like that.
	Women complaining.
	I'm womplaining right now.
	My booting is the shit.
	But so I guess my qualm with it is like you're attaching, so you're making it into a negative thing.
	Like, oh, mansplaining is a negative.
	Yes.
	It's only looking at one view.
	It's only looking at one view.
	So if you said, that's the same thing as that's only looking at one view, you're only looking at the view of a man.
	Which view?
	If I say you're mansplaining, you're only looking at it from the view of a man.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Two plus two equals four.
	Is that mansplaining?
	No.
	But what if you disagree?
	And I'm like, why would you disagree?
	No, you're just stupid.
	Here's the difference.
	Yes, mansplaining.
	But are you woman stupid if you disagree?
	But no, listen.
	Are you woman splaining?
	When a man splains, when a man is mansplaining.
	I thought you were going for answer.
	When a man is mansplaining, he's only talking about what men think.
	He's not thinking about what a woman would think.
	You are woman splaining to me.
	Okay, sure.
	Sure, because I'm thinking about how the men in the room aren't thinking from my perspective.
	They're only thinking from theirs.
	I'm thinking about how the women are thinking, about how the men are thinking.
	And this is some inception woman splaining.
	Okay, so we both do it.
	I womsplain, right?
	Wombs complain.
	What is it?
	Women.
	And you mansplain.
	It's fine.
	Is there a problem?
	To get offended by it seems like the issue.
	The nagging.
	Okay, I'm woman nagging.
	I'm woman nagging, and I'm also thinking baby.
	That doesn't need to be gendered.
	That's just what y'all do.
	You begin with.
	Woman nagging.
	We don't need to specify.
	That's just like kind of your thing.
	Yeah.
	And then when the guys are taking on the approach of a woman, then we can make it the mansplaining thing.
	I think the problem is.
	Trying to explain.
	Men are thirsty for a way to be the victim.
	I think that's what it is.
	Thirsty to be the way the victim or the thirsty to be right.
	All right, are you thirsty?
	Well, men are more oppressed than women.
	But hold up.
	I know.
	Hold up.
	Hold up, Rebel.
	Yo, Rebel, hear me out.
	Rebel, hear me out.
	Men are more oppressed.
	So you said, you said, check it out, Rebel.
	You said that there's the oppression dynamics when it came to the black splaining thing.
	Like white versus black, oppressor.
	Okay.
	But so in this thing, my position is men are more oppressed than women.
	So then I'm right to say that mansplaining, you women as the oppressor class, you guys are sexist by using the term mansplaining.
	Okay.
	You're just saying that.
	That's not facts.
	It's known facts.
	That's not facts.
	That's facts.
	That's facts.
	That's not facts.
	That's facts, right?
	I'm definitely being sexist when I say that.
	You are very sexist, by the way.
	Good.
	And what do you mean exactly by thirsting?
	Like, baby, looking for a reason to complain sometimes.
	But don't you think that the dominant societal narrative at the moment is that there is a patriarchy and that women get paid less and that women have been historically oppressed and they haven't had the right to vote and all of these sort of things.
	Don't you think they're kind of thirsty for oppression?
	How are we thirsty for something we have already?
	But we would argue that men are actually more oppressed in society and we can demonstrate that.
	This doesn't sound very emotionally intense.
	We could go sounds like we're hurting your feelings.
	We could go disadvantage.
	I want to hear your point of view.
	How exactly are my feelings hurt?
	Please, let me know.
	You just called it sexual.
	Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
	Stop.
	The question was to her.
	Go ahead.
	Because then it turned into black splaining, and we've been talking about mansplaining for a bit.
	So, why don't you get back to your claim that you just made?
	You said that you feel as though I'm not very emotionally intelligent.
	I was kidding.
	Okay, okay.
	And back to the feelings are.
	Wait, but what was your answer?
	You were speaking.
	You were telling us something.
	I was, but then I was rudely interrupted.
	And I want to hear what you were saying by this comment over here.
	By this woman nagger.
	Please.
	I was woman-niggled.
	You were a woman that goes.
	Please explain what you were saying.
	Anyways, where were we before?
	I don't know what we were talking about at this point.
	So I was saying that I think that we can actually back up if we wanted to have the conversation that there are actually more factors of oppression for men in society than women.
	However, the dominant societal narrative is of female oppression.
	So if that's the case, doesn't it seem like women are the ones who are trying to act like victims?
	We can't act like something we've been.
	How have you been acting?
	I've never been a victim.
	Not your victim, but things that you can say.
	So you're not a victim?
	I'm not a victim of what?
	Speaking of your microphone.
	I'm not a victim of what?
	So you don't think that's a victim?
	Being a black woman?
	No.
	I think the fact that you guys disagree.
	You think you are a victim.
	What are we affected?
	I think women are in general are more impressed than men.
	That's the point.
	In what sense?
	I think the fact that we can't go out for a walk at night.
	Oh, wait.
	Hold on.
	I walk out night time.
	What woman is going to come jump on you, Brian?
	No, no, no, men while you're walking down the street.
	Y'all, though.
	Who do you think it's?
	We're not attacking you guys like that on the street.
	Who do you think gets murdered more?
	Men or women?
	By who, though?
	But it doesn't matter, though.
	We're just talking about the rates of who gets killed more.
	I mean, I would.
	Never mind.
	Yeah, men are far and away the victims of violence.
	I have a question for you.
	So, like, when it comes to, do you think that if you said something about like the incidence of like violence or murder when it comes to black people, if I were to just dismiss this claim, because I was like, well, who's doing that?
	If I just were to try to dismiss your claim, like, do you think that's fair?
	Or should we like actually focus like, hmm, these are actual victims?
	Like, let's actually have a conversation about that.
	Well, just because someone is getting murdered and killed, that doesn't mean that they're more oppressed than a different group.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Like, just because men have hardships, they have to go to war and stuff like that.
	That doesn't make them more oppressed.
	That's all I was saying.
	Wait, so being forced to die in a war that you don't want to fight, that's not oppression.
	I mean, not being able to do that.
	Right, since when are you guys forced?
	It's called conscription.
	Military conscription.
	Draft, the draft.
	Well, now women are included.
	When was the last draft?
	Yeah, I'll answer it.
	So it was in Vietnam.
	Okay, where are we at?
	Yeah, well, let me ask you a question.
	No, no, no.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, that's totally fine.
	So let me ask you a question.
	So you're oppressed in America, but the last question.
	Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	I want everybody to be quiet while me and her have this exchange.
	Okay, so you're saying you asked, when was the last draft, right?
	Okay, I meant here, not in a different country.
	No, no, no.
	But when was the last draft?
	And I said Vietnam, which was like late 1960s to the 70s, right?
	And that was, you think that's a long time ago?
	Doesn't really matter.
	Were you alive?
	Hold on, hold on.
	And your position is, I just want to understand your position.
	It doesn't matter, or it's not a big deal.
	Well, no, you brought up a draft, but I'm like.
	When's the last sure?
	And so I'll make a quick point.
	Sure.
	I'll make a quick point about the Vietnam War and then I'll make my final point.
	So, first off, when it comes to the Vietnam War, granted, yes, it was a long time ago.
	There are men who would still be alive today had they not been drafted.
	Are you sure?
	Yes.
	Yeah, the math checks out.
	Let me have the exchange.
	Yes, I'm very sure.
	You do realize that there are Vietnam veterans who are still alive today.
	Are you sure?
	Exactly.
	Do you know when Vietnam was?
	No.
	Okay, so you're not sure.
	So, anyways, let me have the back and forth with her.
	So, and then there are men who did go to Vietnam, who did come back, who were drafted, who are maimed, who are homeless because they have mental illness.
	Many of them are drug addicted because they got addicted to drugs, coping with the either physical pain or mental pain from the Vietnam War.
	So, you have that.
	Now, you said, well, it was a long time ago, so it doesn't matter.
	Slavery was a long time ago.
	Hold on.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Slavery happened even further back than the Vietnam War.
	Is it your position that because of how far back slavery occurred, that it doesn't matter and doesn't have an impact on current black people?
	So I didn't say it doesn't matter.
	I have systemic racism in the last draft.
	It's written in the Constitution.
	You said that when you were talking about people dying in war because they were drafted because they had to go.
	We're talking about a war that they were drafted for years ago.
	Like, what are we talking about?
	But we were presenting to you one of the metrics by which men face unfavorable outcomes or oppression in life.
	And you said, your argument was, well, it happened so long ago.
	So you're trying to deceive.
	There's currently a selective service for men.
	Yes, and we're closer to World War III than at any point in the past since the Cold War.
	No, you're trying to say that that's oppressing men.
	Yes.
	Hold on.
	Wait, let me ask you.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Hold on.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Stop, stop.
	Let me ask you a question when it comes to the oppression of men.
	If the government told you, said, hey, we need to have more children and the government forced you to have children and you didn't want to, do you think that that's evidence of government oppression?
	They're going to force us to have sex.
	To have children.
	They're going to force you to have children.
	Whichever way you want to do it, you can't do it.
	If you want to do it consensually, you have to get pregnant.
	We're overpopulated.
	That's not a rebuttal to my argument.
	Let her answer.
	Would it be oppression?
	Yes.
	Oh, so the government forcing men to die is also, huh?
	Men are oppressed.
	That's not a rebuttal.
	Yeah.
	That's not a rebuttal.
	What if it has nothing to do with the fact that they're men and it has more to do with the men in power?
	And also, if Kamala Harris had won, would you say that then?
	Yes, I think that she's a woman.
	If you take it back, Toaster Brain.
	Oh, okay.
	Never mind.
	No, just like, you guys, can you at least advance?
	You have a point, but that doesn't mean that we have to agree with it, Brian.
	I'm so sorry.
	I'm sorry, but if I say two plus two equals four, you do count.
	That's not the same thing.
	It's really not.
	Hold on.
	I literally, I walked you through.
	Who decided that men should be oppressed?
	Wait, hold on.
	Who decided?
	Men, didn't they?
	When they all got it together.
	There's 51% of women who have the vote.
	When they all, no, when they all had it together, it wouldn't go into effect, though.
	Like, when they all gathered together and what the constitution was.
	Was there a woman there?
	Was there a woman there saying, oh, well, I would love to just go and do war?
	No, and thank God there was not.
	Because if there were women there, then it would have been clear.
	No, because there's thank God those great men had no women present.
	I know plenty of the women who went into the army of the Constitution on their own terms.
	It was like, oh, I'm going to go into the army and I'm going to fight for my country.
	But, okay, oh no, the men didn't have the option or the choice in the beginning, but that's because of the event.
	The men were in power because women couldn't vote.
	Black people couldn't vote.
	Stop yelling, stop yelling.
	You're doing this thing where you just keep yelling over everybody and it's really annoying.
	Make your point concisely.
	Anyways, so you're saying men do it.
	Which men?
	The ones that are dead now.
	In the government.
	So you're saying a tiny, tiny little strata of men who are in powerful positions, of which there are also females, by the way.
	Unfortunately, there are, but there are females in those positions of power.
	But now, let me jump in.
	But now, you're talking about now, but you're bringing up only from the past.
	You got to fucking stop.
	You guys also, in addition to not interrupting, I'm asking you just so I can move conversation forward, just defer to me.
	If I start talking, you guys just be quiet.
	So, okay, let me ask you a question.
	Do you think that because somebody who's maybe you don't view them as victims, but let's just say like if somebody's victimized and the person who caused the victimization shares a gender with them, then therefore they're not victimized.
	Is that your position?
	No.
	But I'm just saying.
	But you're saying that he just wasn't your choice because it was so long ago to write the constitution, but then also complaining that you were drafted.
	I understand.
	I understand what complaints now have anything to do with this.
	Obviously, we are not.
	Do you want to know why that makes complete sense?
	Because if men are to make the rules in a patriarchal setting, and if men do have the duty to do the law, then they've also got the duty to do what?
	Go and die in war.
	So that makes complete sense.
	If you have the responsibility of making the rules, then you have the responsibility to go and fight the wars.
	However, if there are women diluting the decision-making process that don't have to go and die in war, that actually means you have a higher social status than men in society.
	But now, aren't women being attracted?
	Nope.
	Nope.
	No?
	You don't even know.
	You don't even know.
	I don't.
	That's why I'm asking.
	Are they being drafted right now today?
	No, they're not.
	But I just, I know that I know a lot of women that are in the military.
	So where are you from?
	Ukraine.
	Speak into your microphone.
	You said you wanted to speak.
	Now you got your time.
	Where are you from?
	Ukraine.
	And are the men being drafted in Ukraine?
	Draft is men.
	Are the men being forced to go to war?
	Yes.
	Exactly.
	Are the women being forced to go to war?
	Not yet.
	No, and they're not going to either.
	In Israel, they do.
	All the women here.
	Hold on, stop.
	All the women here, you guys can, you got somebody right here.
	Here's the different privilege that men have.
	The men in her country, she's Ukrainian.
	You know what she's been doing the past three years?
	She's been going on a hundred dates with foreigners, American men.
	She's been dating American men while her countrymen are being fucking slaughtered.
	You want to talk about male privilege, female privilege?
	She's fucking in the club in Miami.
	She's in the, oh, you're rolling your fucking eyes.
	How is this not a bigger fucking evidence of a differential between the privilege that women have versus the oppression that men have?
	Her countrymen, her men in her country are fucking dying.
	She's in the fucking club in Miami and you're rolling your fucking eyes about dead Ukrainian men.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Oh my God, don't make it about that.
	But she's rolling her eyes on the bottom.
	So the answer to this that would make it feel good is that both are equally suppressed, correct?
	No, they're not, though, because there's no such thing as equal.
	If they're going and dying and she's in the club in Miami, she got to do it.
	But why would we just base it off of her?
	Why are we just basing off of her?
	There's a fucking women in the middle of the day.
	It's like if a guy, if a guy was to shoot, if I was to shoot her and shoot myself, and she's like, you hurt me.
	And I say, I'm hurt too.
	Who's hurt more?
	The one that got shot or the one that shot themselves?
	Well, I'll tell you what would happen.
	You would go to prison for a lot less than a man who shot her.
	Really?
	Oh, man.
	Do we live on that?
	That's identical.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, my God.
	Make a point.
	Okay, hold on.
	Everybody, go on.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Make a point.
	Let's go.
	Make a good point.
	Make a good point.
	Go.
	You're such a victim.
	Okay, mate.
	No, no.
	So it's actually all that good a point.
	I'm shocked.
	Anyway, try and make a point.
	I'm good.
	Wait, can anybody in the chat find me?
	Because the men, they think logically.
	So can somebody in the chat find me?
	I just saw this yesterday.
	There's a news story.
	I believe it was in either New York or Florida.
	A judge, a female judge, released a woman who stabbed, murdered her boyfriend.
	Self-defense.
	Okay.
	Why do you sue that?
	Why do you seem that?
	I was just kidding.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	But yeah, I mean, you mentioned this.
	Jake was bringing this thing up that these women, they get less harsh sentences for certain crimes, etc.
	This woman murdered somebody and she got released.
	Okay.
	Men get away with rape cases all the time.
	They don't get released if they're convicted, though.
	Most of the time, they get a little pat on the back, though.
	But if you want to talk about the legality argument, there is absolutely no doubt that women get treated a lot softer than men in the legal system for the same crimes.
	You can't deny that.
	Is that a privilege?
	Who's right?
	Yeah, I guess, yeah.
	Yeah, everybody has privilege, though.
	Somebody classes.
	Along the way, we decided that men are stronger and they mean we decided they just are.
	Men are stronger.
	They think more logically.
	So why would a man?
	Well, that's really sexist towards women.
	No, no, listen, listen.
	For a man that's stronger and a man that thinks more logically, why would he just randomly kill a woman?
	A woman?
	She must have just went off her emotions.
	That's not true, actually.
	It's not about motive.
	It's not about intent.
	And also, let me ask you a question.
	If men are so much bigger and stronger and more logical, why do we let women vote?
	They fought for it.
	Women had to fight for that one.
	Can I give an instance?
	They let women.
	Oh, no, go.
	Were you going to say something?
	You go for it.
	Go ahead.
	So just, you brought up the legal system and everything.
	I just want everybody to know that the legal system for divorces are completely changed.
	Where usually the man is favored now.
	And so the woman will be treated like the man from like 20 years ago or 30 years.
	What do you mean?
	How so?
	Like just custody battles, things like that.
	So the spousal spirit.
	It's equal or men have advantage?
	No, they have advantage today.
	Are you the breadwinner?
	Like you got divorced, right?
	I was not the breadwinner.
	Are you paying?
	Wait, you're not going to be able to do it.
	I can't get into the details of it, but trust me, the guy gets more leeway than the woman.
	Wait, is the divorce finalized?
	Yes.
	Okay, and you have three kids?
	Three.
	And are they like adults or still?
	One adult, two children.
	Who has custody?
	It's 50-50.
	50-50?
	Okay.
	Is he paying you child support?
	No.
	Are you paying him child support?
	No.
	I mean, this doesn't seem like an unequal outcome here.
	You have 50-50 custody supports.
	How'd you split the assets?
	Neither of you are paying child support.
	Is there alimony?
	No.
	How'd you split the assets?
	I mean, so this is equal, or I'm just saying.
	No, some things transpired where, like, I can't get into the details.
	Damn it.
	But.
	Who kept the house?
	Well, I moved out and I bought my own house.
	So I'm just saying, like, in the scope of, like, the woman being judged for, you know, what they do, you know, they're also like judged on.
	You know how they say, like, the mother is the mother, you know, the child will always see the mother.
	You know, this is not true in court.
	Like, there have been times when you're upset that the preferential treatment that women used to get, now it's like they're looking at men and women equally.
	What's wrong with that?
	No, they're not looking equally.
	Oh, so now they're favoring men, men.
	It sounds, but you got, there's no child support, no alimony, 50-50 custody.
	I could understand your argument if your ex-husband got like a higher proportion of custody, but it's unless you present to me evidence.
	Point he did, and so that was stunning to me because I was a stay-at-home mom.
	Okay, you know, but I can't get into the details of that.
	Oh, yeah, but trust me, the man gets more in legal system these days when it comes to family law.
	I would love to get into that, but I do need to move things on a little bit.
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	Oh, oh, yeah.
	The state of things.
	Yo, thank you so much, man.
	W's in the chat for him.
	Question: Is submission unconditional or a conversation?
	So we can go around the table on this really quick if you guys can give quick answers.
	Is submission unconditional or do you have to have a conversation, I guess, before you submit on a specific thing?
	Conditional.
	If you're submissive without having conditions, you're just naive and stupid.
	Right.
	Yeah, you said quick answers, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, sure.
	Oh, conditional.
	Yeah.
	Wait, submission is unconditional?
	Oh, no, no.
	It's, no, it depends on the situation.
	On the situation.
	So you, if I understand it correctly for the both of you, in each situation, you might question the request or demand by your partner.
	And depending on how you feel about it, you'll choose to go along with it, submit, or not go along with it.
	Is that a fair representation of your position?
	It is very.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I don't understand the question, Sori.
	So submission.
	Do you know what it means to be submissive?
	Yes.
	So is submissive something that you would be without any questions, or do you need to have questions in the different situations?
	Of course, if it's different situations, I need a questions.
	Okay, carry on.
	Okay.
	Conversational.
	It has to be a conversation.
	Okay, what about conversation?
	Conversation.
	What about you?
	If I'm in a relationship with them, then not if you're in a relationship.
	No, no, no.
	We're talking about in a relationship.
	Yeah, it's an awesome question.
	Oh, internship.
	Yeah, trust them.
	I am submissive, yes.
	Okay.
	Into the mic.
	I would say it is a conversation to have because if you're just submitting to everything they say and because you deem yourself a submissive woman, that man who may not be a leader could lead you to fucking hell.
	Take advantage of.
	You're going to have to trust them, like she said.
	Have that conversation.
	Have the questions because that is important to know that you're being led in the right path.
	Okay, sure.
	What about you?
	Unconditional love.
	Unconditional.
	Sorry, what?
	Unconditional love.
	Submissive.
	Love.
	Submissive.
	Okay.
	I have a clip for you guys to react to that's related to this.
	Damien, can you get that pulled up?
	So, you guys say you want leaders and dominant men and you're going to be submissive.
	Watch this clip.
	I got away with everything under the last boss, and it wasn't good for me at all.
	So, I want guidance.
	I want leadership.
	But don't just like boss me around, you know?
	Like, lead me.
	Lead me when I'm in the mood to be led.
	I love the office.
	The office is so good.
	Right.
	That's y'all.
	Lead me.
	When I'm in the mood to be led, and I'm going to question every single thing that you're going to be doing.
	No one ever says.
	But I want you to be a leader.
	I want you to have a like, I want you to be a leader, but I'm giving you no authority.
	I can say that I don't know.
	You have authority.
	No, you have authority.
	It's just like...
	You were the only one who said unconditional.
	Um...
	But yeah, well, so what that means, though, is that, and this is the conversation that it comes back to with black and white submission.
	We've had this conversation with her before.
	She said that it's a spectrum.
	This is why it's actually not a spectrum.
	Because if we're in a relationship and there's one situation where you're like, actually, you know what?
	In this situation, I'm not going to be submissive.
	That just means that you're the boss.
	And what that means is that you get to decide when you're submissive and when you're not.
	So ultimately, that means that you're deciding in every situation.
	At any moment, you can say, not today, buddy.
	So actually, you're the boss.
	So that's why it's in black.
	If y'all talked about it, then there should not be any other question on towards it.
	Like, okay.
	Why do I need to talk about it with you?
	For example, if you're submissive to me.
	Here's my example.
	A lot of people here have been hurt.
	I can bet you that.
	Have been misled and put in a horrible situation.
	Me myself, I could speak for myself.
	I've been submissive to a man that was only putting me in bad situations.
	So now I'm going to ask you, like, what is your intention with this?
	Before I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm just going to do it.
	If it's something simple, like, take your shoes off.
	Sure.
	You got that.
	I'm going to take my shoes off.
	You want to see my feet?
	You got that.
	You want to know something?
	You know when it's the most important to be submissive?
	When it's something big.
	Of course, when it's something big, like, okay, we're about to go and, I don't know, rob this bank down here, and I need you to go to the left wing.
	I'm not going to ask, why do you need me to go to the left wing?
	I'm going to go to the left wing.
	I'm going to take care of what I need to take care of.
	But, but if they're like, oh, I need you to, hmm, I don't want to take it there, but I'm going to.
	I need you to sell your body so that we could buy a house.
	Be for real.
	I'm supposed to follow you.
	I'm supposed to say, with no question, yes, I'm going to go sell my body so that we could get a house together, daddy.
	I'm so submissive to you.
	So when we're talking about this, I don't think like you mentioned robbing a bank, criminality.
	That would not be, like, your man is not living in a virtuous manner.
	But which man?
	But which man?
	Because there's so many different types of men.
	Even though you guys like to collectively gang up together, that doesn't mean that there's different types of men or not.
	Basically, is that you're taking it to some extremes.
	And obviously, within the context of the situation, within the context of the conversation, we're not talking about asking you to do absolutely heinous things like that.
	We're talking about within the boundaries of a normal relationship.
	So nobody's going to ask their wife to go and sell their ass on the street.
	And nobody's going to ask their wife to rob a bank.
	Although if you did do it, that's pretty based.
	If you did, to hide the body, to rob the bank, that's based.
	But nobody's going to really ask them to do that.
	Yeah, and one thing on that.
	So I've just met multiple people like that.
	Hold on.
	So, like, if you were to ask men who want a kind of more traditional dynamic and they want their woman to be submissive to them and they want to lead, I can't imagine you could find any man who would be okay with the following scenario.
	So, I mean, taking your examples to even more extreme, what if your man tells you to go jump off a bridge and delete yourself?
	I'm supposed to be submissive to him.
	No.
	Any man who's in favor of a submissive dynamic is going to say, no, that is beyond the scope of what we're talking about here when women should be submissive.
	So maybe that's the confusion between today's man.
	But you're trying to know because today's man will put you in the worst scenario and then expect you to be submissive.
	Guys, are you dating?
	Okay, but there's different type of people in the world.
	So just to be clear, you've dated multiple men that have tried to prostitute you.
	I would have no issue with you not being submissive to them then.
	I wouldn't.
	Okay.
	In fact, you should break up with a guy who's trying to get you to become a prostitute.
	And he's not a man of virtue.
	But how are you to determine that in the first 10 minutes?
	Because you said that we determined that in the first 10 minutes that we're going to fuck with this guy or not.
	And then also, if you just walked into the house and someone says, take your shoes off, just walked into the house and they say, take your shoes off.
	And you don't ask why.
	Isn't that the same thing as if you were with a man that had horrible fucking thought processes and thought like, oh yeah, like the only way for us to get money is if my girl goes out and fucking tricks niggas, right?
	So you have to submit.
	You dislike speaking.
	No, but I'm making a point and you're trying to, you're trying to dismiss it.
	That's actually not.
	I'm with you.
	Yeah, I mean, look.
	You have to be cautious in this day and age.
	That's all I'm saying.
	I think the conditions aren't based on what they're asking.
	It's based on how dominant are you?
	How dominant?
	Like, if I have to pay my own things, if I'm taking you out, it's not going to be submissive.
	But if you're paying my bills and you're doing what you're supposed to do as a man, you're going to get submission.
	How dominant are you?
	It depends on how submission you are.
	Are you going to take me out and make me dates or do I have to ask you to take me out and take me on dates?
	That depends.
	That's what it's really based on.
	You decide.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	So you're the boss.
	No.
	Because if he's not dominant enough, it's about picking the right person.
	Don't women have more options?
	What do you mean in terms of money?
	Don't women have more options than men.
	In terms of sex, yes, but no dating, no.
	That's not true.
	So when you're dominant, dominant means 24-7 dominance, like complete dominance, the way submission is, is black and white, right?
	Yeah.
	So your dominant is like 100%.
	Go to as I say.
	I'm going to take care of you.
	Do what I say.
	You know what I'm saying?
	And the submission is black and white.
	Like either yes, master.
	There's no scale in it.
	That's what y'all saying.
	It's either.
	If your boyfriend or husband is asking something that contravenes your moral or ethical code, in this case, prostitution or self-harm, then like one, that should be the end of the relationship.
	And two, no, you shouldn't do it.
	But when we're talking about submission, typically we're talking about like decisions that would be within like a sort of socially acceptable and common purview.
	Like decisions about decisions about the children, decisions about the household.
	And we can't really have the conversation as well.
	If every time we want to have a generalized conversation, it gets taken all the way way to the extreme.
	It's like impossible to have the conversation.
	There's nothing generalized about it.
	There's so many different type of people.
	I guess, yeah, that happens all the time.
	Yeah, nobody's asking anybody to jump off a bridge.
	I'm not going to say no based off what you're asking me, but I might question you based off what you're doing for me and how it is your life.
	Not even for me.
	It also comes.
	But in general, for us, are you doing anything beneficial?
	Are you a good person?
	It also comes back to your own life.
	The person that you pick is.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	It's about picking the right partnership.
	When it comes to submission, though, if you say, oh, well, he made me do this, then kind of the buck stops with you because you chose a guy who would choose to prosecute.
	You said that you were not submissive to you.
	I was having a conversation with her.
	If you have such a poor judge of character that you were to choose someone like that, then kind of falls on you, right?
	Right.
	I don't think you have to choose to be submissive, but choose who you're going to be submissive to.
	That's why I agree.
	That's what it is.
	It's like, I'm not going to be submissive today.
	No, I'm not going to be submissive to you because you're not shit.
	Yeah, that's all I need to call it.
	It depends on who it is.
	Right.
	You got to pick the right.
	Everybody got to pick the right partner for sure.
	All right.
	I do have to move things on though a little bit here.
	We have another chat.
	We have a chat here from Lucas.
	You know what, Rebel?
	You get to read these.
	Okay.
	Lucas, thank you, man.
	It says, for the love of God, can we once for all expunge the womanies talking point for today's societal discourse?
	Stop imputing your emotional hardwiring.
	They're just saying stuff.
	Men are wired to be stoic.
	There's another one coming in.
	Okay.
	Men process and express emotions very differently.
	For this matter, in our societal duty to suppress emotions and stoic.
	All right, see, I need glasses.
	You want a man in touch with me?
	He's just saying, he's saying men are meant to be stoic and emotionally.
	Let her read.
	You want a man that's in touch with your emotions.
	He's in jail.
	That's what it says.
	That was the last thing.
	That's what he said.
	Yeah.
	That's a really good point.
	That's crazy.
	That's a really good point.
	Because that's what men who are controlled by their emotions, they're generally going to be much more disposed to things like being in jail.
	Because if you're a guy who's controlled by emotions and you react and you just react with anger or whatever else, you're going to be mad at me.
	That's a lack of self-control.
	That's self-control.
	That does not.
	You can be in touch with your emotions and have self-control at the same time.
	You can be in touch with your emotions and have self-control at the same time.
	Yeah, but we're saying somebody who has a lack of emotional control.
	I thought it was saying that.
	I thought it was saying men who are more emotional are in jail.
	That's what I thought it was saying.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Would you say that men who, like, for example, commit crimes are more or less likely to be able to control their emotions?
	Less.
	Less.
	But they might also be a little bit more.
	But that's the point that he's making.
	Not smart.
	It depends.
	That's such a nuance.
	All right.
	I have another one for you to read it.
	Behold, where is that?
	Amalgam.
	Amalgam of woke and insane female solops.
	And we wonder why marriage/slash birth rates have collapsed.
	More red flags up in this piece than a CPP parade.
	By the way, father-in-law was drafted.
	Your father-in-law.
	Still alive.
	Still alive.
	Lucas.
	Lucas's father-in-law was, I assume, drafted for Vietnam.
	He's still alive.
	Maybe.
	I mean, could have been Korea.
	I mean, I think there's still a couple of people.
	There's a couple World War II vets, like a few.
	Maybe.
	Oh, God.
	In Israel, it's mandatory men and women to serve.
	Yeah, but if you look at the death rate in Israel, it's much, much like it's far outweighs in the men's side.
	So women generally tend to do like support roles.
	Actually, women in Israel are forced, they fly airplanes.
	Look at the death rate.
	I served in the IDF for two and a half years.
	But stats talk as well, right?
	So if you look at the number of women that are in the, I think it's something like 35% of the IDF are women.
	And then if you look at the death rate, it's like 1% or something of women.
	Yeah, because it depends on your position.
	Not many people are.
	Exactly.
	So women do support roles.
	But women still do men's position in the Israeli IDF.
	Yeah, like occasionally they do, but the numbers in terms of deaths don't reflect that women are overrepresented or even equally represented.
	Normally, the women who go to the IDF will do support roles.
	It's equal in Israel the same amount of men that serve three years, the same amount women serve two and a half years.
	But you know what a support role is there, right?
	Yeah, I know.
	Yeah, so you got a support role, and then for those who don't know, you've got people who are in combat roles.
	There is many women in the world.
	Far less women in combat roles.
	Many women in combat.
	Do you have the stats, Damien?
	No idea.
	Just chat GPT.
	You can see these stats.
	Libertariat donated $200.
	The reason men who are ruled by their emotions are in jail and women are not is because women that lash out and hit men are considered crazy.
	Men that lash out and hit women get arrested.
	That's a good point, man.
	There's definitely differentials when it comes to like DV2.
	In fact, like a woman could be the aggressor, and then the cops come and they got to arrest somebody.
	And oftentimes, because of the bias in policing, I think it's called the Duluth model.
	Have you heard about that?
	The Duluth model?
	I think that's what it's called.
	Might have my wires crossed.
	They got to arrest somebody, and overwhelmingly, it's going to be the man, even if he's not the aggressor.
	Because he's still mad.
	Wait, what?
	Because he's still mad.
	He's mad.
	Wait, still mad or still a man?
	Still mad.
	Well, men earned that.
	I mean, it seems like there's a reason for it.
	So just to be clear, your position on this is that the man is not the aggressor in a domestic violence situation.
	And then men are mostly the aggressor, so it's assumed.
	No, but not even.
	Because I definitely have to have the conversation.
	Can you start?
	Didn't I start?
	I just thought they were talking about that.
	Yeah, but you got to let people talk.
	So, I mean, actually, if you look at, for example, one-directional violence, so it's like, it's not, so there's mutual domestic violence situations where they're both kind of like beating up on each other.
	But if you look at one directional, it's like overwhelmingly, I think it's 70% of women are one-directionally physically abusive towards their partners.
	So in those sorts of situations, if the cops get called, there's like a pretty, there's like a high chance that he could still end up going to jail even if he didn't put a hand on her.
	But I'm a little confused.
	You said, well, men earned that.
	So like, how about like just a random guy who's never done anything wrong, never laid a hand on a woman, and his girlfriend's like smacking him around, like actually hurting him?
	You think he earned going to jail when he's the victim?
	No, I would expect police to do their job.
	Unfortunately, a lot of the times that's not the case.
	But in that sense, it's not like they should have investigated that.
	They should have talked to each person and figured out, you know.
	Yeah, but what if it's like just a he said, she said, and then there's like a policy in the police department that says, well, whoever's like the larger individual, or in some cases, this is the man, they're going to get arrested.
	But there's always the person in the law.
	There's always the person that you could tell is more angry when you get there.
	Well, there's quite a bit through it and see who these people are.
	Libertariat, thank you for the TTS, though.
	I do appreciate it.
	Lucas, thank you for those couple messages there.
	Do appreciate it.
	We have actually here saying, go ahead, Rebel, if you can read this one.
	Okay.
	If the woman was discovered to have a postpartum depression, she could get off of less prison time or possibly entirely, there is no postpartum for males.
	Just insanity, please.
	And then there was that whole like battered wife syndrome, which was used as a defense.
	Like women used it as a defense to get off of like when they murdered or something, like murdered their husbands.
	Okay.
	This is a big problem in Australia.
	The numbers actually don't bear out that there's a big domestic violence problem in Australia.
	But there's this massive media campaign done by like feminists that will basically act like men are so terrible.
	And you can watch the ads.
	It's absolutely shocking the way that they depict men.
	And There's all these laws now that have come in because of the pressure where women can basically just go into a police station and just have the man not be able to see their kids and have the men just have this restraining order.
	So it's a big problem.
	I heard something similar in Spain, which is super feminist, where like there's actually financial incentive to make a report of like either domestic violence or like some sort of SA type of situation.
	And the women will just automatically actually get like some financial assistance.
	And look, I mean, on one hand, like if one, these are terrible crimes, and I think these in that situation, there should be some sort of assistance to victims of crimes.
	But what they've found is it's actually been incentivizing women to report domestic violence or other kinds of crimes that just never occurred whatsoever because of the amount of assistance that they're able to receive in Spain.
	So I don't know if there's any Spanish viewers or anything that can like weigh in on that, but a lot of crazy feminism in Spain.
	I do have to get to the next super chat though.
	We have the state of things.
	And y'all, academic women made up mansplaining sucks to suck, says the state of things.
	Academic women.
	Any PhDs in here?
	What's up?
	Did you have something that women were crazy?
	Women or men?
	Did you put yourself in that space?
	Did you?
	I don't even know what you're asking right now.
	Oh, if I wanted to backtrack just a tad bit, just right before this next super chat, I was talking, where we were all talking about how, oh, men get off easier, right?
	Because a man thinks logically.
	No, we were talking about how women get off easier when they're not.
	Right.
	Women get off easier because a man thinks logically.
	So he would obviously not like mix his hormones into doing something stupid to a woman, like beating her up.
	Yeah, what's your point?
	My point is: who said that a woman was crazy?
	A woman or a man?
	Did I make that claim tonight?
	I didn't say that you made that claim, but who makes that claim?
	I'm not interested in defending the claim either.
	No, it was one of the chats.
	They said women were deemed crazy if they hit a man, and men, if they hit the woman, is illegal.
	They go straight to jail.
	Oh, yeah, they're saying that women get like let off.
	Oh, the woman, she's just like a little girl.
	Who said that the woman was crazy?
	The super chatter.
	But who in the big spectrum of things, who said that the woman was crazy?
	The individual super chatter could be a woman.
	How do you know it's not a woman?
	I'm not saying about the one super there's a whole thing about how women are crazy and they only act on emotion.
	Who came up with that?
	I mean, you're trying to forward a premise that I don't even agree with, and I'm not interested in okay.
	We can move on.
	It's fine.
	Do you think that?
	Do you think all women are crazy?
	I don't think that.
	No, I don't think that.
	Okay, so I mean, actually, no, I don't think that.
	I mean, but like, I'm why are you forwarding a position that wasn't stated by any of the panelists?
	Or I apologize.
	I apologize.
	You got that.
	But that's definitely something that I've heard before: is that all women are crazy, or women are too hormonal and they act solely off their emotions, which might be true.
	I mean, I'm just curious.
	We can explore it, though.
	You've dated women, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, so, and it could be the case that you've dated some crazy, like crazy men, whatever.
	I wouldn't call them crazy.
	I will call.
	I actually have fucked with more crazier men than I have crazier women.
	Sure.
	But like in your own experience, have you noticed any differences between men and women when it comes to their behavior?
	When it comes to a woman, when I was dating a woman, she was, she wouldn't call me crazy.
	She wouldn't go out her way to make me feel like I wasn't making a logical, I don't know, explanation.
	But when a man was talking to me, he's like, oh, you're just talking about your emotions.
	You're just trying to make it seem like, oh, this is okay because you're on your period.
	Or, oh, you have so many hormones.
	Like, obviously, you would talk to me crazy because it's just not logical.
	Gaslighting.
	It's just like that.
	Obviously, a woman didn't make up that a woman was crazy because of their home, because of their hormones.
	But you're saying that that's like, oh, well, not you, not you, because you didn't say that.
	But they're just trying to make that seem like that's like normal.
	And I know for a fact that a woman didn't say, oh, well, bitches are crazy because they have more hormones than you.
	So you're saying men say that?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So now, if I track that forward and I say, okay, well, women get let off easier because they have so many hormones and they act off their emotions.
	And that's why we're giving them a break on the legal side.
	But in reality, a woman didn't say that.
	A man said that.
	And that's why they're getting let off easier than a man when it comes to it.
	Because a man only thinks logically.
	A man only thinks logically.
	And he doesn't do anything off of emotion.
	Do you hear me or no?
	Yeah, can you make an actual argument though?
	Because I that was an argument.
	And you just repeating what the super chat said.
	No, I'm not.
	If you read the super chat, that's not what he said.
	So here, in like three sentences, what is your position?
	She's just saying that bitches are crazy.
	My position is that a man came up with the fact that a woman is crazy.
	And now they're mad that they get put in jail more recently than a woman.
	Oh.
	Because a man, only thing a man could do is plead insanity, correct?
	Yes or no?
	He could say, oh, I went insane, but a woman, she has her hormones.
	You say we get let off because we're emotional.
	Exactly.
	Okay, that's the point.
	Okay.
	That's just not the case.
	Women don't get a lot let off because they're emotional.
	They get let off because they're women.
	I think we get let off because we hit because men hit harder.
	If a man hit a woman, it might kill her.
	If you guys both put a gun to a man's head, smoked him.
	If you did that, you'd get a lesser sentence.
	And you know why?
	It's not because, oh, she might have been a bit emotional.
	It's because there's a statistic on this.
	But who came up with that?
	What?
	Who came up with what?
	Statistic.
	That the woman was more emotional, and that's why she did it.
	Here, we have a chat.
	Rachel's actually about to prove it to you.
	Women have much higher rates of psychiatric illness.
	Can you pull it than men?
	25% of American women are on at least one prescription psych medication.
	Also, Rachel, isn't it the case that when it comes to trait neuroticism, women rank higher in treat neuroticism as compared to men?
	I mean, it is what it is, you know?
	Okay.
	Thank you, Rachel.
	Appreciate that.
	We have a question.
	Rebel, can you read this one?
	Would it be strange or crazy if a woman has fantasies of having a husband and she wants to dress like Ellen DeGeneres sometimes and have lesbian experiences with women?
	That's a good question.
	Say, is it crazy if a woman wants to have, is bisexual, basically?
	Imagine having a husband, but wants to be gay.
	Oh, no, I want to eat pussy and also I like to get penetrated.
	Oh, no.
	Ain't nothing wrong with having it all.
	I'm fucking greedy.
	Get it.
	And I guess last thing, like going back to her point, you've dated women and men.
	I mean, have you noticed any differences in terms of because I mean, didn't you say like you're over dating women, right?
	Yeah, I'm over that right now.
	Why?
	But it's definitely some differences.
	I kind of made a couple TikToks about that that got a lot of views.
	Like men, when men lie, they will keep lying to you, to your face.
	But if they get caught in a lie, they're going to keep adding on to the lie.
	But if women lie, they're going to either cry or straight up ignore it.
	Like, there's certain nuances with differences and stuff like that.
	I feel like I don't think it's crazy to want both or do both.
	I feel like even monogamy is kind of a touchy filly.
	I feel like all of us should be free and unlimited to do what we want.
	There's huge differences.
	There's huge differences.
	And we should be able to explore whatever.
	If everybody was non-monogamous and everybody was just dating everybody.
	Do you think that would be better or worse than a society that is purely monogamous?
	Just say we have one country, we'll call it Gangbangland, right?
	Shout out to Andrew Wilson.
	And another country, which is just, let's say, America.
	Or monogamy land, okay?
	And in Gangbangland, everyone's just doing gangbangs.
	And in monogamy land, they're all just having families.
	I don't think, because I feel like we need a little bit of everything.
	So I don't think too much everybody being monogamous or everybody being polyamorous would be good.
	I don't feel like all or nothing.
	One of them is just pure monogamy, no cheating, nothing, just nuclear families.
	And one of them, everyone is having sex with everyone all the time.
	Which one's better?
	Monogamy.
	Monogamy.
	I guess monogamy would be better, just for safety.
	Only because polyamorous would be cool, but not everybody is going to be safe and smart about it.
	And do you think that in Gangbangland, there'd be a lot of unplanned pregnancies and there'd be a lot of STDs and there'd be a lot of children raised by single mothers, for example?
	Whereas in monogamy, yeah, well, yep, we pretty much live in Gangbangland.
	We're here in California, right?
	But do you think that that's a reflection of why those standards are actually put at the forefront of, I mean, we should be putting those standards at the forefront, which is having a monogamous family?
	We shouldn't be putting that at the forefront.
	I feel like you should be doing whatever it is for you.
	I feel like monogamous is good for certain people.
	But tell me why we need it, though.
	Why do we actually need polyamory?
	I think it's just to keep everybody safe and respecting everybody's boundaries.
	Because I feel like if you love someone, you want to make sure that they feel special and that they're respected.
	And whatever they want, you want to respect their boundaries if you love them.
	I mean, if it's safety that you want, then monogamy land would be the best.
	But in monogamy land, do you think that they need polyamory?
	Yeah.
	We need polyamory because we need somebody.
	We need options.
	How are we going to have more experiences to pass down to our kids and give our kids advice of something we've never done?
	Sexual experiences to pass down to your kids.
	Like, how are we going to teach?
	Like, okay, look, I feel like every mom has a conversation with their daughter about their Punani, right?
	How are their moms going to have their experiences on what to do to take care of that Punani unless they was out there and having a little fun and having different partners?
	So let me just clarify.
	Your argument.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on.
	Let me just clarify.
	Your argument is that a mother can't teach their child about the intricacies of the Punani if they've only ever had sex with one man.
	They need to have more than one penis.
	I can't, but your child was going to be more prepared if you have more experience.
	So a woman who married her child, her childhood sweetheart and has had sex with him and has had multiple children, she's incapable of telling her daughter about how to handle her vagina.
	Not incapable.
	She just might be less knowledgeable.
	Tell me exactly what the factors are when you've taken multiple penises as opposed to just one.
	What are the factors that will increase your sort of well first of all?
	Every man, every man has their own chemical balance.
	So a man, different men affect your Punani differently.
	You know what I'm saying?
	if you're messing with multiple guys at one time that might affect you differently so what you're saying is that if you so what you're saying though is that if you don't have sex with multiple men then you won't get different infections If that man is being faithful to you and you're being faithful to them, you're probably not going to get any affection.
	So then could it be in monogamy land, for example, if the mother told her daughter to only have sex with one man and then she did the same thing, she would never have to worry about infections from different men.
	Yeah, that's true, but that's not realistic.
	So that's why we need a little bit of everything because not everybody is going to be monogamous.
	That actually was the case.
	And in most of the developed world, sorry, not the most of the developed world, but in most of the world throughout history, that was the standard.
	And especially throughout Christian Europe, for example, and in Muslim countries, normally in these religious countries, you get one partner.
	And even in India and the more sort of like religious parts of India, they have arranged marriages from a young age.
	So this is actually the, they do that in Israel.
	They encourage that sort of thing.
	They're a bit degenerate in Israel.
	It's concerned that monogamy is on one side.
	A lot of the things that are.
	It actually works for many years, the monogamy and the fixing kind of arrangement.
	Are there men being faithful to people?
	And it works for many, many years.
	I got a question for you.
	So you have a roster right now?
	Yep.
	How big is the roster?
	Like three.
	Three guys?
	Yeah.
	Any girls or no?
	No, I'm talking to one girl right now, too.
	I said I was completely done with women.
	That's a lie.
	That was a lot.
	I got a little shorty, and then I got two guys.
	And are you like hooking up with all of them?
	No.
	No.
	One of them?
	Two of them?
	Three of them?
	One of them.
	One of them.
	And the others are for what?
	Nothing funny.
	Just for, you know, fun.
	Just for fun.
	Going on dates.
	Nah, just dates.
	You want to go out?
	You want to have somebody?
	Because some people are good for business and some people are good to party with.
	Who else here has a roster?
	Roster?
	Roster?
	I'm talking to five guys, but I don't date them.
	That's like no intimacy.
	That's a roster.
	When you say talking to them, but like, have you been on multiple dates?
	No.
	Oh, you're talking?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Roster?
	Callie?
	Callie Coach.
	How much you got?
	Into the line.
	I'm talking to one person.
	Just one person?
	Yeah.
	No.
	Okay.
	Here, I have a chat coming through, then we're going to get into the next thing.
	Yo, Kat, thank you.
	As a representative of the woman community, she confirms that women are crazy.
	It's both, though.
	I don't know.
	I've also heard from women who are like, I don't have, I don't like being friends with women.
	Like, they're straight, but they're like, I don't, I don't even like being friends with women.
	They're like, just having guy friends, it's just like more chill.
	I don't know.
	Do I say that those girls are goers or no?
	Are what?
	Because I've experienced, like, if there's a girl that hangs out.
	you trying to fuck I feel like you gotta maybe I think we got cut you off no you can talk but like I have to cut you off at the bar You're already kind of exuberant.
	I'm not drunk.
	I'm not sober, but like, I feel like if you start drinking more, it's going to be crazy.
	Seltzer isn't going to fucking kill me.
	You're lightweight, be honest, though.
	All right, go ahead.
	Go ahead with your point.
	But you're cut off from alcohol.
	Guy friends is good.
	Anyways, I've had friends that have guy friends and the other guys that have seen her but aren't a part of her friend group have said, oh, she's a gober.
	Like, she just hangs out with those guys because she wants to be with them or like hook up with them.
	And like, I think that that's not cool.
	But at the same time, it's like, why can't you get any friends that are girls?
	Because girls, once you have a girl pack that really hits different, like that hits so crazy.
	Like, it's not that we're just looking for no solutions or like.
	Yeah, but the problem is you all secretly hate each other.
	That's not true.
	I have four girlfriends that I definitely 100% have no hate for in my life.
	You absolutely hate them and you would hate to see them happy.
	Not a single part of me.
	Not a single part of me.
	I'm literally praying for their happiness every single day.
	So just because you're a man who thinks that does not mean that that's me.
	Why will you say that?
	Because me, honestly, I have multiple girlfriends that 100% do their own thing.
	And I'm like, this is a bad guy.
	Don't like him.
	But if you're doing your own thing, put you up.
	I know why Jake said it.
	I know why Jake said it because we've all like, we've even been in front of women who will do something like this.
	They'll have a girl that they know who they're friends with come up in, you know, like let's say you're hanging out.
	This friend comes up.
	Oh my God, it's so good to see you.
	Big hug.
	How you doing?
	Oh, you look fantastic.
	You're so great.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	Then she walks away.
	Fuck that bitch.
	Yeah, bitches be fake.
	Fucking hater, bro.
	Bitches be fake, but that's not me.
	I'm just saying.
	Santa Barbara.
	How long has this friendship been going for?
	Altogether, I think we've been friends for about three and a half years.
	There's not really much time to do that.
	I've never had a single ounce of hate for any of those girls.
	Yeah, you've never had a time where one of them's not around and you're just a bit like a fucking friend.
	I have one friend that I've been friends with for seven, maybe eight years, and I've never felt an ill will towards her.
	Never in my life.
	No one's ever bitched behind anyone's back.
	Nope.
	Never.
	Never in my whole entire life.
	Let's keep it moving.
	Are we going around the table, I think, on something?
	No, we were talking about if women are crazy or not.
	Well, I think we're not.
	My experience with like women friends is that some of them turn out to be jealous of the person, and so it's hard to have a friendship.
	All right.
	Rebel, can you read this one, please?
	Question for my wife.
	If husband is an NYC big live partner, makes seven figs, six four, prides himself on impeccable virtue, honor, integrity, and competence.
	Should I submit to him no questions asked?
	So, the husband, lawyer, New York City, big law partner, seven figures, six foot four, in good shape, impeccable virtue, honor, integrity, and competence.
	Should you submit to him no questions asked?
	Go ahead.
	He don't fuck with me.
	Give him my number.
	Wait.
	Hold on.
	Go ahead.
	Say it again a little louder.
	Yes, be submissive.
	Please do.
	Okay, what about you?
	Hello?
	Oh, my God.
	I'm going to blow a gasket.
	No, wait, next?
	Were you not paying attention?
	I'm paying attention.
	Just don't know what to say.
	Everybody depends from the man and from this situation.
	If a man is rich and beautiful, it doesn't mean that I'm accept ever since.
	So I know.
	Okay, no.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	I wasn't expecting that one.
	All right, go ahead.
	I love it.
	Professional, yes.
	Okay.
	She started off with it's her husband.
	So yes.
	Okay.
	I would say no, there's still questions because at the same time, if he makes all this money, are you still going 50-50?
	If he's not comfortable, he's not going to 50.
	Okay.
	Okay, he's paying for everything.
	He's paying for everything.
	And if he's fit, is he encouraging you to be fit as well?
	Or is he encouraging?
	He's a choppy chaser.
	You can stay fat.
	Good.
	Still questions.
	I still have questions.
	I love it.
	He's a feeder.
	He's actually a feeder.
	Please feed me.
	I would like to lay on the floor.
	How much I love you while you give me my fucking offer chance.
	I want to be motivated.
	You've gained 100 pounds since you started dating.
	I have questions.
	Why did he allow me to gain that weight?
	Here's some donuts.
	He's a feeder.
	No.
	Nope.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm kidding about the feeder thing.
	Go ahead.
	I'm getting sidetracked.
	Can you repeat the question?
	No, it's okay.
	We'll just move on.
	So, anyways, we have Gorlock the destroyer.
	Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to 10.
	You can't fix seven.
	Starting.
	Starting with.
	We'll start with you.
	Go ahead, Rebel.
	Wait, hold on.
	Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
	Just before we start with somebody, looks, just who's a 10?
	No.
	What are you doing?
	You said rate yourself.
	Don't, don't, don't.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Hold on.
	Wait.
	So, okay, we'll start over here then.
	Go ahead.
	My name means beautiful.
	And that's beautiful.
	Cool story, bro.
	I mean, on a scale of one to ten, how do you rank your own looks?
	Ten.
	Oh, okay.
	Thank you for tens across the board, all the way 10, 10, 10.
	Okay.
	Give me my 10s.
	10.
	10 plus.
	I'm only going to say 9 because there's always something I could do a little bit.
	You're right.
	There's always room for improvement.
	9.5.
	Okay.
	10.
	Wait, sorry.
	One more time?
	10.
	Okay.
	9.
	I say 8, but what I bring to the table on 10.
	Okay, but it looks like.
	If we just go in at looks, I say 8.
	Yeah.
	Jake, what do you rate yourself?
	I'm an adjustable 6.
	I give myself a 5.
	Only a 6.
	Wow.
	Chat.
	I just want to say this is, by their own rating, the most beautiful panel we have ever had.
	I am an expert.
	I only bring on the most beautiful women.
	10, 10, 10, 10, 9.5, 10.
	I think it's 10's all around.
	9.
	8.
	Congratulations, Brian.
	I did really good today, Jake.
	Considering you had flakes, but you still managed to get a whole entire panel of women who are among the most beautiful women that have ever existed on planet Earth.
	They are among the most beautiful.
	They are bad.
	They are bad.
	And you know, this is.
	No, but I'm not even exaggerating.
	Like, you're at least going off of your guys's ratings.
	This is the hottest panel we have ever had.
	I appreciate that.
	No, but can you explain your six?
	I am not worthy.
	Oh, yes.
	I am not worthy to be in the presence of these.
	Can you explain your six?
	Five and six is crazy, don't you?
	I was nervous.
	I'm not a fan of the family.
	Can you explain?
	I'm six.
	We'll get to it.
	I was nervous at the start, but now I'm like really nervous to be.
	I can't even look at you.
	I can't look down.
	You're not a six.
	You're down.
	Yes.
	I see your jacket, bro.
	I can't look at you guys.
	You're too beautiful.
	I'm nervous.
	It's like looking at the sun.
	I'm nervous.
	I like at least a 7.5.
	Wait, so here's what we're going to do.
	You guys get to rate us.
	Yep.
	Don't worry.
	Me and Jake are professionals.
	We will not be hurt.
	Are you going to rate us back?
	No.
	Unless you say you want me to, I will not rate you back.
	We won't rate you back.
	We just want you guys to rate us, and we want you to be honest.
	You don't have to gas us up.
	We're big boys.
	We're not going to be.
	If you think I'm a three, I'm not going to be upset.
	So, wait, does this include your personality?
	Physical looks.
	I was give you a tip.
	All right.
	Go ahead.
	Seven and nine.
	Seven and nine.
	Oh, Jay.
	What is this like a personal?
	His personality.
	It kind of makes a mistake.
	Two points up.
	Wait, how tall are you?
	Six foot.
	Eight.
	Eight.
	What?
	Eight?
	He went down.
	Is he too short or too tall?
	Too short.
	If he was over six feet, then it would have been a bit of a damn thing.
	I said nine.
	Six foot is a short.
	You fucking shit.
	I said nine.
	No, I said none.
	He's basically a hubby.
	I said nine at first, right?
	But if he was like, because six feet, like if you're standing next to a pretty tall woman, and she's kind of short.
	Like, if we got on some heels, if you're a five, seven woman and you got on some heels, I'm 4-11.
	You're going to be eye and eye.
	That's all I'm always looking for.
	All right, that's fair.
	Okay, give me a rating.
	Give Jake a rating.
	Okay.
	Seven and nine.
	Oh, Jake.
	All right.
	Go ahead.
	Seven, eight.
	Wait, seven, eight?
	Okay.
	You.
	I'm going to go ahead and say, I'll give you a seven.
	I'll take that.
	If we go to end and out after, I'll give you 7.5.
	And then for you, I would definitely give you like a 9.
	Yeah.
	It's because we have matching rings.
	7 and 9.
	Bro, one girl says something and then they just repeat it.
	I was just trying to repeat it.
	That was my.
	Socially accepted answer.
	It's not.
	It's about the look because he represents himself professional, intelligent, clean.
	Fucking sweatpants are all over the place.
	And he has a great watch.
	We have a great watch.
	If we go off, very casual.
	Watch his looks.
	Looks.
	Yeah, but the way he carries himself.
	Okay, that's fine.
	You want us to go lower?
	I think you guys are both tens.
	Who am I to judge?
	There we go.
	There we go.
	Oh my God.
	My ears are going to explode.
	Okay.
	I mean, I'm going off of also how you present yourself.
	Okay, but you don't have confidence to say you're a 10, so I would give you five and six still.
	Like what you said.
	If you think you're that, I could agree.
	All right.
	Well, we'll accept it.
	Go ahead.
	You're both tens.
	No, come on.
	Give us a rating.
	Come on.
	That's the truth.
	Cutie patooties.
	Yeah.
	Cutie pies.
	I almost want to agree with Yami.
	Okay.
	It's all about your own perspective.
	So I'm a little confused here.
	Who do they call him?
	If there was a guy that said that they weren't a 10, I'll tell him.
	I'll tell him.
	But they were funny.
	They might have went on.
	I'm just curious, like, why can't average women just admit they're average?
	I'm not.
	Bruh.
	Where?
	You think I am?
	I'm going to be honest.
	No girl at this table is.
	I feel like I'm being a little generous.
	Not going to lie.
	You can have whatever opinion you want.
	That's fine.
	That doesn't stop me from looking in the mirror and telling myself how different.
	You can feel.
	And so I'm still a 10.
	So you're saying everybody fives or something?
	That's what you're going to say.
	Everybody fives.
	I think every, well, nobody's above a five.
	Just go one.
	Go one for one.
	Nobody here is above a five.
	You're the one who's killing himself about.
	But it's your right to think so.
	It's okay.
	That's right.
	I'm an American.
	America.
	It's my right to think average.
	I'm not sure if I'm going to be fucking women or average.
	America is the best.
	I'm so shocked because I'm looking around and y'all are bad as fuck.
	Five?
	Five to me is like ugly.
	No, five is average.
	Nah, so here's my scale: 10.
	Absolutely stunning.
	Nine gorgeous.
	Hold on.
	Ten, absolutely stunning.
	Nine gorgeous.
	Eight beautiful.
	Seven pretty.
	Six above average.
	Five average.
	Four below average.
	Three frumpy plain.
	Two, unattractive.
	One but ugly.
	Okay.
	I want to change my rating for you guys.
	So you don't think nobody here is pretty?
	You don't say nobody here is pretty.
	That's what you're saying.
	Everybody here is average.
	Nobody's pretty.
	Hold on, just be clear.
	Average can still be attractive, but like I'm looking.
	Like, if we're doing comparisons, I don't think anybody at this table is above a five.
	Okay.
	Why did you invite?
	Why did you invite us?
	Why didn't find the tense to invite you?
	Did you want to cook?
	Thank you for your freedom of speech.
	Did you want a cookie?
	No.
	I talked to all kinds of people.
	Why did I?
	What do you mean?
	Why did I invite you to get a bunch of people?
	I think today sometimes his vision is okay.
	It doesn't matter what he says.
	We feel good.
	This podcast, what?
	Go ahead.
	No, like today we have really beautiful women.
	Sometimes we don't have really beautiful women, but today is today's beautiful woman.
	Not like the most.
	I didn't watch all the series, but today is really good.
	Trust us, today is the best.
	The best.
	Unbelievable.
	I can't look around the table and see one single thing that any of you could possibly improve.
	Nothing.
	You guys are allowed to do it.
	Oh, not your name's our cast.
	Hold on.
	Wait.
	I need to send the asteroid and the missiles and the nuke for this segment.
	Okay, there's the asteroid.
	Now, hold on.
	Also, Tate has to join in.
	Tate also feels a way about it.
	Tate loves me.
	We're going to go.
	We're doing this.
	And then we have that.
	That's a nuke.
	Damn, we are on fire, girl.
	We're just sending this out.
	Oh, my God.
	Are you starting a third world war with us?
	Because we are doing some shit right now.
	I'm also.
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	Wow, that's crazy.
	Look.
	It's a good thing attraction is more than looks.
	Do me a favor and be honest for like two minutes.
	Do you want me to go around?
	A rate everybody at this table like I know you want to.
	Just do me a favor and be honest about it.
	I'm not going to do it unless you guys want to.
	Not for a clout.
	I wouldn't just do it.
	The only way that she's going to do later.
	You're all right.
	You're all 10 combined.
	Oh, shit.
	I don't even know a 10.
	I know a 9.5, but that's only because she has red hair.
	And he likes red hair, so that's a preference.
	It's not points.
	I mean, people have their target perspective.
	If all y'all had red hair, I don't know if she's a 9.5 because she has red hair.
	You guys had red hair.
	Points.
	Okay.
	Lucas.
	Lucas says.
	Who made that?
	Chair number seven, no 50-50 husband financially handles, as he says, everything.
	Did you girls miss the part about impeccable virtue, honor, integrity, and competence?
	Chair five, again, virtue.
	Fat chance getting his number.
	He's all mine.
	It's from the watch.
	Thank you.
	It's from the watch.
	It's from Lucas's wife.
	W's in the chat for Lucas's wife.
	Congrats on snagging yourself a big law 6-4 lawyer.
	Okay.
	A lot for you.
	Brian, when are you going to bring me out as your co-chair?
	Okay, so, anyways.
	Oh, boy.
	I'm ready.
	Okay, here, let's switch gears here a little bit related to this.
	Still related to looks, but a different question.
	Do you think you will be better looking better looking in 10 years' time?
	So I'm not asking you if you'll still be attractive.
	I think women can be attractive in the 20s, 30s, 40s, etc.
	I'm not asking that.
	I'm just asking, compared to how you look now, will you be more attractive comparatively?
	On numbers?
	In 10 years' time.
	Just looks.
	So not personality, just your looks.
	You're 24.
	In 10 years' time, you'll be 34.
	But on numbers, are you more attractive?
	Yes, absolutely.
	At 34?
	Okay, in 20 years' time, 44.
	It's objective, though, like to who?
	Just in general?
	Like, who am I attracted to?
	It's like just physical appearance based on how the world would perceive you.
	44.
	No, probably not.
	44?
	No.
	Well, what do you, yeah, what do you think?
	Yeah, because at 34, yeah, like, I plan on being stupid rich in a couple years.
	You can buy a personal trainer and the things you need, vitamins, supplements, and all that to make you more attractive.
	So, like, it's in years from now for sure.
	But 34, yes, but not for 20 years.
	That's pushing it, though.
	But Beyonce.
	I mean, if you get that talk.
	Beyonce, look.
	Oh, and then if you ask certain people, Beyonce is more attractive now than she was when she's in her 20s.
	Depends on what you like.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Erroneous.
	Erroneous.
	She's bad now.
	She's like, why?
	Right.
	That's what I'm like.
	It's like, why?
	Right.
	A lot of age.
	don't know if me and jay-z were in a room together and i was like well jay-z is not attractive What are we talking about?
	How does that matter?
	I was like, yo, Jay-Z, if you could, like, rewind, like, if Beyonce could go back when she was, I don't know, 21 or whatever, he's picking 21-year-olds.
	He wouldn't have done it because honestly, the whole basis of their relationship was for business.
	But no.
	His taste has changed, though, as he gotten older, too.
	What about Becky with the good hair?
	What about her?
	So you're telling me that he cheated on Beyonce for Becky with the good hair?
	Wouldn't this help our argument here?
	He cheated on his exactly for somebody younger with longer hair.
	Oh, so he prefers younger women, so he'd prefer younger Beyonce.
	Thank you for solidifying exactly what Beyonce was saying.
	Thank you for being on my side.
	But I'm also not saying that she looks any worse because she don't.
	So women just don't age.
	No, I didn't say women don't age.
	I just know there's certain ones that look good.
	Good talk.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	You're 47, better looking in 10 years' time at 57?
	57, yes.
	So I plan on continuing to take care of myself, work out, eat healthy, Botox, filler, whatever I need.
	So yeah, I will maintain in 10 years.
	And do you, I guess we'll ask it.
	Yeah, we'll let everybody go through.
	Let's do splits, though, for this segment.
	Wait, so what about 20 years' time at 67?
	67?
	Ooh.
	Yeah.
	Old.
	I think I'm going to be at home with like a bunch of cats hiding out.
	Like just like this.
	I don't know.
	67, that's pretty damn old.
	Like I'm in my prime to like be at home, drink a cup of tea and watch like.
	Do you think that Playboy would be more interested in current you or you 20 years ago?
	Repeat that again?
	Do you think that Playboy would be more interested in hiring current you or you 20 years ago?
	Oh, um who do you think would generate current me.
	Yep, okay.
	I was in mommy mode back then.
	And then, so can I get a definitive answer on 67 though?
	67?
	No, I'll be hella ugly.
	Okay.
	And then you're 47 now.
	Let's go back in time.
	Never die, sweetie.
	Here, guys, just let me get through it, please.
	You're 47 now.
	We go back 10 years.
	Better looking at 37?
	37?
	Was I better looking?
	No.
	Versus now.
	Better looking now.
	Better looking now.
	At 47.
	Let's go back 20 years, 27.
	Better looking at 27.
	I think a lot of it is happiness, too.
	We're talking about looks.
	Okay.
	Your happiness is your look.
	Your happiness comes out in your looks, too.
	Okay.
	If you're always mad, now you look like the angry cat.
	Wait, so I do look better when I'm happy.
	But just, I'm happy with the explanations, but if you can, just give me an answer.
	Sure.
	27 or 47?
	27 or 47.
	Better looking when?
	I think I'm actually better now.
	No?
	Okay.
	And then how about 18 versus now at 47?
	Oh, 18, yes.
	Oh, wait, 18, better looking.
	Okay.
	Better looking at 18.
	Okay, but what about the happiness?
	More happy?
	I'm more happy now.
	More happy now?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You're 37, better looking in 10 years' time, 47?
	I guess yes, because the beauty industry developing every day, so now girls can change boobs, bellies, everything.
	So in 10 years, I think we can change who the avatars for the new one.
	Or you just show your photos and make it the same.
	So my position on this would be: even with surgical intervention, I don't think it would even then have an impact.
	But let's just remove surgical intervention from this conversation.
	Just kind of like you can still be taking good care of yourself, but you're naturally aging, whatever.
	You're 37 now, 10 years' time, no surgery.
	But anything else, I guess, better looking at 47?
	I'm not better looking, but I can tell you when I was young, I was very hot, but I was very unhappy.
	Now I am not so hot, but I'm very happy.
	So there was a bad thing.
	Yes, but what?
	You said you're not very hot, but you're a 10?
	What?
	You said before that you were a 10, right?
	Yes.
	You are a 10?
	Maybe before I was 12 or 15.
	Okay, but so you will say that you're a 12 out of 10 then.
	So you just said that you're not very hot.
	It's not only physical.
	It's together.
	It's completely harmonious.
	You said you would want to get cosmetic surgery?
	What?
	You would get cosmetic surgery?
	Not yet, but maybe if I will have children and maybe some of my body.
	Maybe I will do it.
	But as we see the future, you can replace any organ of your body and anything.
	So who knows?
	But you do think that you're a 10.
	Yes, you know, one of my ex-school girls, she met me here in Miami.
	We didn't see each other 20 years, but she told me I definitely look much more better now than I was before.
	It's a different, it's a different.
	Okay.
	How about here?
	Let's.
	20 years' time, 57.
	Hard, hard.
	No, of course, I'll not be like in the mind of the people.
	I'm not will be so young, and young is mean beauty.
	So, yes, definitely cannot change my age.
	But there, I will have some other values to attract the people to attract.
	But we're just talking about looks.
	But looks depends from, you know, if you have a fucking sad face, who cares about your beauty?
	What is the beauty?
	Let me ask you a question.
	Can you think of like somebody who you think is really ugly?
	Girls or boys?
	Girls?
	Donald Trump.
	Is there like a like Putin?
	Do you think he's ugly?
	Yeah.
	Hold on, guys.
	Do you mean like a physical appearance?
	Yes, physical looks.
	You know, I try to not judge the people because you know.
	No, why?
	Look, I don't want to judge anyone.
	Who I am to judge.
	God gave me this body sex to him.
	God.
	Give her this body.
	Who I am to judge?
	Did God give you the body?
	Of course.
	Give me this face.
	He gave me this appearance.
	He gave me this character.
	Yes.
	Do you think Vladimir Putin is physically attractive?
	For me, not, but I know some girls crazy about him.
	Everybody have different tastes.
	Okay, and do you think Brad Pitt, when he was like maybe 20, 30 years younger, do you think he was attractive?
	He was attractive, but not for me.
	He's even physically attractive guy you've ever seen.
	Who we would know who's a celebrity?
	Let's say DiCaprio.
	Leonardo DiCaprio?
	Okay, so if Leonardo DiCaprio looks sad a little bit and he's just like this versus like, I don't know, whoever you think is unattractive, like Vladimir Putin, but Vladimir Putin is smiling while invading the country.
	Do you think that Vladimir Putin smiling is more or less attractive than Leonardo DiCaprio in his prime?
	But he's old and he's the young and it's a completely different people.
	Oh, he's old and he's young.
	So age does save smile.
	No, but he's completely like a grandfather and he's a young yucky.
	And what hell does Vladimir Putin?
	I'm asking you.
	He's like 78 or something.
	He's too old.
	I mean, you've kind of like in a roundabout way kind of proved my point because you mentioned age.
	He's not as attractive.
	I like that face type of Leonardo DiCaprio, okay?
	It's better.
	He's my type by appearance.
	But I'm just like, okay, I guess the simplest way to put it would be: think of the ugliest person you know and the most attractive person you know.
	I don't think if most attractive is like frowning versus least attractive is smiling, that it goes like this.
	I don't think.
	I think it goes like that.
	Like if you're unattractive and you smile, it gives you a boost.
	And if you're attractive and you're upset, it goes like that.
	I don't think this idea of like, well, if you're smiling and glowing, all of a sudden, like if I'm in a room with some like male model and I'm just like, haha, smiling, like the male model who's in the fucking corner, who's like.
	You might get more bitches, though.
	No, bro.
	He's getting more bitches in this way.
	You guys are a little bit more distracted.
	I think you just exaggerate between two different people.
	And also, women do tend to like stoic-faced men as well.
	They like stone-faced men rather than men.
	Who are showing their teeth all the time?
	Oh, you fucking goopy motherfucker.
	I want to come over and make fun of you.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	I'm like, oh, you're just so good.
	Do you lay off the fucking alcohol?
	You're just talking about it.
	Oh my God, you're just trying to fucking deflect.
	I literally drank two seltzers and you're talking about some of the things.
	Let me move it on.
	So, okay, go ahead.
	It's my turn.
	No, it's not.
	I'm finishing up with her.
	So, okay.
	20 years.
	Will you be better looking at 57 than now at 37?
	In 57 or 37?
	Of course, in 37.
	Okay.
	And then moving backwards, were you better looking at 27 versus now at 37?
	It's very hard.
	Nearly the same.
	The same.
	Okay, and then if we go to 18, better looking at 18 versus now at 37.
	Oh my god, it's very different.
	I'm very different.
	Just your looks.
	Just your looks.
	Okay, if to say how the man reacts, it's a different.
	But you know, maybe they react so much because they know I'm young and stupid.
	As I know, you know, when you're adults, they don't think like that.
	So they're just afraid maybe to approach you so easily.
	Okay, here, you can give us two answers.
	When do you think you were better looking, and when do you think men would think you were better looking?
	I look in everyday good because I love myself.
	The most important things is you need to love yourself.
	Love it, you need to care about yourself, about your body, about everything.
	And about the men, men, of course, like young girls more, but still, some men love more mature, so it depends.
	Younger.
	Everybody have different tastes.
	Younger people like older.
	Okay, better.
	You're 23, better looking in 10 years' time at 33.
	Yeah.
	20 years' time, 43.
	43.
	I mean, black don't cry.
	I know my dana, she looks good as fuck.
	She looks so beautiful.
	So.
	Sure.
	What's the answer?
	Yes.
	Is it a yes?
	Is it a no?
	To men or to me?
	To you.
	To me?
	Yeah, like what you think.
	Yeah, less.
	You know what's interesting, though?
	Like.
	I will look good to you.
	You asked me this question, they're both the same.
	Because, like, how good you look is typically like external.
	I understand that, but at the same time, like, me personally, I went from a young age and I thought that I didn't even look that good, right?
	And I got a little bit older, I was 20 years old.
	I was like, damn, she's slim, thick.
	That's fine as fuck.
	Like, that looked good.
	Black don't crack, you know.
	And I got to 23, which isn't that far forward.
	And I was like, okay, I gained a little bit of weight.
	Like, I'm a little bit more healthy.
	I'm a little bit more secure in myself.
	And I'm like, yeah, she's still a bad bitch.
	So, depending on if I stop drinking, if I depend on if I stop drinking and I make sure that I take care of myself at 43, yeah, I might be that girl.
	Because have you looked at what's her name?
	Gabrielle?
	Gabrielle Jungy?
	Yep, Gabrielle Jungy.
	How Gary Holly Berry, you look at all those people.
	They look good as fuck.
	So just to be clear, just to be clear, you think that gaining weight makes you more healthy?
	No, I think gaining weight makes you look unhealthy and it drags on your skin.
	If I am gaining a lot of weight and now I got all this extra skin, right?
	There's people who can afford to pay for that to get it fit.
	It's look, it's yeah, the thing I was getting at because you said that you were hot at 20, but then you said you were hotter at 23 because you gained a bit more weight and you were a bit more.
	Oh no, I think that that was misinterpreted because at 18, I might have been maybe like only 10 pounds lighter than this.
	But then after 20 after 18, I gained a lot of weight.
	All right, so you're saying that you have gained weight, which makes you less attractive.
	No, I don't think it made me less attractive.
	I think it made me feel more insecure.
	Do you think there's a point of which you could gain enough weight that would make you less attractive?
	Um, yeah, for me personally, because I know that I'm only 4'11.
	I'm only 4'11, so how big can you get?
	I'm not gonna be able to do it.
	Let me move this on.
	Okay, 23 versus 43.
	When are you more attractive?
	Is it me?
	23 or 43?
	Yes, we're still talking to you.
	23 or 43?
	43, I'm a beauty, I'm a be, I'm, I'm, I'm a be, baby, whip, whip, baby, check me out.
	Can I get a temperature check from the panel?
	Is she funny or just obnoxious?
	Oh, no, your reactions are hilarious.
	You'd be so mad that you don't even mean it.
	You don't have to be aware of it.
	Y'all keep simultaneously rolling your eyes.
	I'm not wasting anybody's time.
	Be for real.
	Just answer.
	Okay, when I'm 43, I think that I will be fine because I'll have one money.
	Oh, my God.
	Ants, listen to the fucking question.
	That's my answer.
	Yes.
	No, you answered the wrong question.
	You said.
	What time is it?
	Don't worry about it.
	So, I do.
	Yeah, okay.
	So, the question is not, will you still be attractive at 43?
	That's not what it is.
	No.
	Okay.
	I've literally repeated the question multiple times.
	I'm hearing you.
	Just speak.
	Will you be more attractive at 43 versus now at 23?
	It's a comparison question.
	Yes.
	So you'll be more attractive at 43.
	Okay, let's go 10 years further.
	30 years' time, 53.
	Slightly less.
	But still more.
	But still more, yeah.
	Okay, 40 years' time, 63.
	Slightly less.
	But so, so, just to be clear, I'll restate it back at 63.
	You will be more attractive than you are now.
	Yes.
	Okay, 50 years' time, 73.
	No.
	Okay, that's when it's.
	I'm a wrinkled old bag of raisins, nigga.
	Is that what you want me to tell you?
	But it's all about your personality.
	I don't know who decided it was about looks.
	All right, I'm moving it on.
	Go ahead.
	What about you?
	Of course.
	You're.
	Bro, this girl has an attitude problem.
	Okay.
	No, I don't.
	Stop talking badly about me, Brian.
	I've been on the show how many times I used to.
	Just go, get up, get up.
	Hold on.
	No, I'm not going to give up.
	There's someone in the bathroom.
	Why would I get up?
	I'm waiting.
	So, going to you, you're 49.
	Will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 59?
	Probably.
	I work really hard on myself.
	You know, I'm athletic, healthy.
	I never drink, never smoke, never drug.
	So never drug.
	I'd be better.
	Okay, 20 years' time at 69 versus now at 49.
	Slightly less than what I am now.
	Than currently.
	Okay.
	And you're 49 now.
	Let's go backwards.
	Better looking now at 49 versus 39.
	I'm better now.
	Better now.
	Let's go 20 years back, 29 versus 49.
	Better looking when?
	Better now.
	And let's go back to 19, 30 years' time.
	Better looking 49 or 19?
	Better now.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	You're 31.
	Better looking in 10 years' time, 41.
	Into the mic?
	I don't know.
	I guess maybe less attractive.
	I'm not sure.
	Okay, 20 years' time, 51 versus 31.
	Oh, less attractive.
	Okay, and then you're 31 now.
	Go back to 21.
	I'm more attractive now than I am.
	More attractive now.
	Okay.
	You're 24.
	Into the mic, please.
	Better looking in 10 years' time at 34.
	Yes.
	20 years' time, 44.
	Probably not.
	Okay.
	You're 24, better looking in 10 years' time, 34.
	Yes.
	Better looking 20 years' time, 44.
	Yes.
	30 years' time, 54.
	Yes.
	40 years' time, 64?
	Yes.
	50 years' time, 74?
	Yes.
	60 years' time 84?
	Yes.
	Why don't you just tell me the age where you think you'll be not as good looking as you are now at 24?
	Or is it never until God decides?
	Why don't you, instead of giving me a troll answer, why don't you give me a real answer?
	Do you genuinely think that?
	Yes.
	I'm not trolling you.
	Okay, let me ask you a question.
	You're 24, you're single.
	Would you prefer to date a guy, like just on physical appearance?
	Would you prefer?
	I'm going to give you your two perfect guys.
	So they meet your personality, whatever virtue criteria.
	Would you rather date a 26-year-old or a 96-year-old?
	My honest opinion: a 26-year-old because it's close to my age.
	And so you genuinely think you'll be better looking at 74 than you are now at 24?
	i would probably honestly look the same i mean are you fascinating i don't Are you like, are you trolling?
	Like, is it a troll?
	I'm being for real.
	For real.
	You've not only gotten the most beautiful panel that has ever existed, but you've also got someone who literally defies the laws of dating.
	I'm a little confused, though.
	She's saying herself, how she views herself.
	So if she thinks aging is beautiful, then that could be her notion.
	Oh, aging is beautiful.
	Oh, tell you what.
	If you'll be the whatever podcast, all of you here, by the way, there's way too many people up at once.
	The whatever podcast, all of you who said you'll be better looking in 10, 20, 30 years' time, I will pay out of my own pocket.
	I will get you the best plastic surgeon, the best plastic surgeon in California, and I will fully pay for it.
	You have to get an age advancement plastic surgery to your face because you guys all think you'll be better looking 10, 20, 30 years down the road.
	There are procedures we can perhaps put on certain makeup that makes it look, and we're gonna tattoo, like permanent tattoo this on you.
	We're gonna do certain plastic surgery to make y'all look older.
	Who here is willing to do it?
	I'll pay for the whole thing and I'll give you $5,000 on top of that.
	Who's willing to do it?
	Raise your hands.
	Ooh, $5,000.
	I'll give you $5,000 and I'll pay for the plastic surgery.
	Who's willing to do it just so you can look more beautiful?
	Who's willing to do it?
	These are the things you mentioned aren't things that necessarily make someone more beautiful, like a tattoo or eyebrow or whatever you say.
	So, so this girl over here, she says she's going to be better looking at 74.
	That's going to mean a lot of wrinkles, right?
	So we're going to tattoo on her.
	You know how like Hollywood can age somebody, like they put on makeup?
	We can permanently tattoo that makeup on you.
	We can do plastic surgery stuff to like sink your skin a little bit, loosen up your skin a little bit, give you the fucking jowl thing.
	Are you willing to do it?
	No, thank you.
	I help elderly and I've seen beautiful 100-year-olds.
	Did you are you high?
	Just curious.
	Are you going to be a little bit more?
	No, I am soldier.
	Okay, so just so just to be clear, I've literally had to repeat.
	You guys have to understand why I'm getting frustrated.
	You just said I've seen people who are beautiful at 100.
	That's not the question.
	I've already granted that there are people who are still attractive at 30, 40, 50, 60, 70.
	We are comparing how you look now versus how you're going to look when you're older.
	I look better.
	Are you guys just unaware of aging?
	Has the American education system just completely failed you?
	I am fully aware.
	No, because here's my example.
	But you made the claim that there are attractive people at 100.
	Do you think those people were more physically attractive at 100 or when they were 20 or 30?
	Well, there's those people.
	Hold on.
	Let her answer.
	No comment.
	What do you mean?
	What do you mean?
	Well, there are those people.
	You've been younger.
	You've been invited to come on the show.
	You have to participate.
	Like, you need to participate in good faith.
	I am participating.
	You're asking me a question and I said yes.
	You said no comment.
	Oh, there's people.
	This is literally fucking gaslighting.
	There's people that are ugly when they're young and they grow into that.
	I'm sorry that I hurt you.
	Also, there's an it doesn't hurt my ego.
	You're just being intentionally difficult by refusing to answer the question.
	Thank you for voicing your opinion.
	Awesome.
	So now we're getting into a disrespect thing.
	It wasn't disrespectful.
	It was disrespectful.
	You don't think, bro, this is actually gaslighting here.
	You don't think her just saying thank you for your opinion is what she's saying.
	I'm ingenuous.
	She's going to be beautiful.
	No, you're being disrespectful.
	You can say it.
	You can say it deadpan, but you're being disrespectful.
	I'm sorry that you have an opinion on me that is not true.
	If she thinks she's beautiful, then why do you want her to change her opinion?
	If she thinks she's going to be beautiful and she's going to be aware of her, she's going to be 100 and beautiful.
	You're trying to gaslight me into thinking that I won't.
	I don't know.
	You're trying to get her to change her opinion about herself, and she's not going to be able to do that.
	Exactly what I think we should.
	Wait, is Rebel?
	Rebel, see, this is what I appreciate about Rebel because she'll call it how it is.
	Like, she might disagree with me on stuff, but Rebel's going to just call it how it is.
	She's seeing, like, yo, this is like, she's fucking bullshitting.
	Okay, well, right.
	I know.
	He was just asking a specific question.
	Will we want to change our face to an older face?
	That was the question.
	And we just stayed with our face if I'm older.
	Can I keep my titties?
	I wouldn't want to do it because I want to go through the process of aging because that's character development in the time that it took me to get there.
	And I earned that.
	Like, I feel like I'm going to be more attractive at 34 because I earned that.
	I worked my body and I did what I needed to do.
	I learned.
	I stopped because right now I smell weed.
	Like, I might stop that.
	And that might make me more attractive and stuff.
	So I don't want to, I don't want to rush that.
	That's my answer to the question.
	Anybody you guys got an answer?
	Do y'all want to get an older face?
	I like that.
	I like that.
	You see what I'm saying?
	I feel like every year of my life, I grow more into myself and I understand what works for me, what doesn't.
	And I've look better now than I have before.
	And this doesn't stop here.
	It's going to get better until that.
	Until it's not.
	Did you have to say that?
	You can't deny that on what we're going to look like.
	Period.
	You can't deny that.
	What I said was in 10 years, I'm probably going to look less attractive.
	However, if she feels she's going to be more attractive in 10, 20, 30 years.
	But do you believe in honesty?
	If that's her truth, that's her truth.
	Hold on.
	I'm just asking you a question.
	Do you believe in honesty?
	Do you believe in truth?
	Yeah.
	We have to be like realistic here.
	The reality of aging.
	Like, genuinely speaking, can you ever look at somebody who's 100 and say that they're better looking at 100 and not some like extreme example?
	No one said 100.
	No one said 100.
	She said 100.
	No, I only heard you get up to 73.
	She said it's going to be because some people look better older.
	But 100.
	Your fucking wide ass eyes.
	They might have come back together.
	Because I definitely look better than I did.
	If the subject is about dating, why are we going?
	I'll tell you why it's about dating.
	I will arrive there.
	I promise.
	I absolutely promise.
	Because I got a comment from a client that was watching.
	He's actually an attorney.
	And he says this guy is very disrespecting to women.
	Just so you know.
	Came off very well.
	I don't care.
	You know what's really disrespectful?
	You come into my house and I ask you to take your shoes off.
	Oh my God.
	Get it on, Brian.
	You get your shoes.
	Get it back, bro.
	How about that person?
	It was no choose.
	It was stilettos, please.
	What else do you want them to take off?
	Stilettos.
	What else do you want them to take off, Ryan?
	My stilettos.
	Fucking girl's coochie, bro.
	Nothing else.
	Be for real.
	It doesn't matter.
	We're over that.
	She took her shoes off, didn't she?
	So we're going to, Damien, start looking up the age stuff.
	So, you know what I'm talking about, Damien?
	Yeah, the picture.
	Can you AI me an older face?
	That's exactly what we're about to do.
	I love that.
	Exactly what we're about to do.
	Hold on.
	Oh, wait, it's like an AI app?
	It's like an ad.
	No.
	What?
	Why not?
	It's cool.
	Okay, can somebody in the Discord do the age advance?
	Kat, I don't know if you're still in the chat.
	Kat typically does that.
	And can you do the gender advance too?
	Or somebody in the Discord put in the research tab, do the age advancement.
	If we have it, if not, no worries.
	It'd be really good to have it on this panel, though.
	So, also, when it comes to the disrespect thing, look, the reality is, like, most women are not used to a man ever challenging your worldview.
	You're used to men.
	You're used to men.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	You never hear no.
	Most women never hear no from a man.
	You never deal with a man who's disagreeing with you.
	That's it.
	I love that.
	Thank you for that.
	I hope you speak for yourself.
	But I've never, I don't know, I've never experienced a just an all-yes factor.
	That's cool.
	So you asked me a question.
	What does this have to do about dating?
	I'll explain to you exactly why it has to do with dating.
	So do you think in order to have a reasonable assessment of the type of person you can get, you need to know your own value, right?
	Like, for example, you said you do real estate, or I forgot somebody here does real estate.
	You do real estate.
	You do real estate.
	So let me ask you a question.
	Let's say you have a house.
	Yes.
	You have a piece of property you're trying to sell.
	And you think it's worth $5 million, but the market says that's worth $1 million.
	And you put it on the market for $5 million.
	Are you going to get any buyers?
	Depends on the demand and supply.
	Oh my God, really?
	Yes.
	There are fires in the middle of the market.
	he just said he just said hold on a second god he's He said very clearly that the market rates it at $1 million.
	Okay.
	So regardless of the extenuating circumstances, the market rates it $1 million.
	Wait, chat.
	Chat.
	I know I'm getting frustrated, but chat, you guys have to be frustrated too.
	Like, it's justified.
	Like, really, guys?
	Like, chat.
	One in the chat if you're frustrated too.
	One in the chat if you're frustrated.
	Because nobody can be charitable.
	I'm asking these questions and they want to argue, like, well, what about?
	It's like, I said the market value.
	That would account for market forces.
	Anyways.
	Okay, yes.
	So you're talking about the worth of the house.
	So if I believe, I believe, I think my house is worth $5 million, but the market value, what the market says it's worth is $1 million.
	Am I going to sell the house for $5 million?
	No.
	No.
	No, you're not.
	But if there's a demand in the area for houses and there's not a lot of demand and that house is in a desirable location that somebody absolutely wants to be in that house, then yes, you may have a chance at $5 million, but it's very slim.
	Hold on.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	I'll even engage with that.
	Yes, perhaps there's like, for example, like certain properties.
	You can like have horses on certain properties.
	If it's over a certain acreage, that might make you able to command a higher price.
	I don't care how much somebody wants a house.
	They're not paying five times the amount for it.
	Maybe they'll pay 1.1, 1.2, 1.3.
	They're not paying 5 mil.
	Are you bringing this example back to me or so?
	No, I'm explaining that.
	If you make the right advertisement, if you invite the stars, make the white party say this coach was slipping Leonardo DiCapro.
	He lost something.
	If you make the creative ideas, you can sell something very expensive.
	Look how the market works.
	Sometimes the shit piece costs very expensive.
	It depends from your creativity and your idea.
	Yes, you can give up and sell it only for 1 million, but if you will be smart, if you will really hire the best PR agencies, it will create you the best PR and you can sell it more.
	You're talking about possibility.
	I'm talking about probability.
	What is likely to happen?
	I'm sure, you know what?
	It's possible that one or even all of you women here are going to marry a billionaire.
	It's possible.
	I don't think it's probable.
	Now.
	Who are you to say?
	Yeah.
	Right, nephew.
	Who am I?
	How many billionaires do you think there are?
	These girls are delusional.
	What do you mean enough?
	Like all delusional.
	If you had to take a stab at it.
	Take a stab at it.
	Can you shut up while I'm speaking?
	How many billionaires do you think that there are in the United States?
	So if you want to engage with the question rather than just being obtuse the whole entire time, how many do you think that there are in the United States?
	I don't know, but I'm sure you know.
	If you had to take a guess.
	He's right on the billionaires, yeah.
	It's a very low chance, low number, low statistics.
	Yeah, he's right.
	It's like, I don't even know what the number is, but I'm assuming it's probably under a thousand, maybe like a few thousand maximum.
	Let's test it this way.
	Who are we to say whether or not these women will marry a billionaire?
	You know what?
	Let's do a wager.
	Because you guys think it's, maybe you guys think you have a really good chance.
	I'm a betting man.
	I will pay you.
	Let's reconvene in five years' time.
	Is that a fair period of time?
	Five years' time.
	And I'll make the bet with every single one of you individually.
	Stop.
	I will make the bet with every single one of you individually.
	I will give you $100,000.
	If any of you marry a, you'd have to prove it, a provable billionaire.
	$100,000.
	Hold on.
	I'll give it to you, and it can't be some Fugazi or whatever.
	If I win, you have to pay.
	do they pay me less because you're only giving a hundred thousand if i married a billionaire you didn't give a about your hundred thousand oh you are so he offered me Do you know what a wager is?
	I'm about to put a wager.
	So here's the wager.
	But if you don't, you have to pay me $10,000.
	Who accepts my wager?
	Oh, she does.
	Oh, she does.
	Okay, so if I draft up, I'm going to draft up a legally binding contract that you're going to sign after the show.
	You'll do it and you'll sign it.
	Yes.
	In fact, I think this might, I don't know if it's legally binding if I get verbal confirmation.
	So here's the wager.
	If you marry a billionaire within the next five years, I pay you $100,000.
	If you don't, you pay me $10,000.
	Let's get all the bombers!
	Let's do it.
	Do it for the team.
	Let's shake it.
	No, thank you.
	Oh, I'm ready.
	Shake my hands.
	She's going to shake your hand right now.
	Show me the contract.
	Right.
	This is a contract.
	This is not legally binding.
	It's not mutually agreed.
	She's not agreeing.
	Offer, acceptance.
	Go ahead and shake it.
	What fucking lawyer over here?
	I'm ready.
	You're too far away.
	So I can stand up and bring you back.
	I know my destiny.
	I know.
	No airshake.
	No airshake at all.
	Oh my God.
	No, you're going to knock shit up.
	Don't spin shake on it.
	Stay off the table.
	Verbal statements are legally binding.
	So if you marry a billionaire.
	Yes.
	Maybe find me here.
	Okay.
	There.
	I'll pay you $100,000.
	Let's get $100,000 and I will get it.
	Bro, y'all, the most delusional panel we've ever had on the show.
	So we bet or not.
	Okay.
	Oh, my goodness.
	You know what?
	How about this?
	You guys saying you're going to end up with a billionaire is like me saying I'm going to end up with, I'm going to have a harem.
	Every single Victoria Secret model, I'm going to date, and they're going to accept this.
	Like, they can't cheat on me.
	I can cheat on them.
	I can date all of the Victoria Secrets.
	That's more likely than y'all dating.
	But you're only high.
	My dear.
	Do you know that that can raise my billionaire?
	Raise.
	Yes.
	He can be okay.
	But in five years, Living was rapping and passing.
	She's saying, stop screaming into the microphone.
	And that's director you over there.
	Yeah, you know, you're literally.
	I don't know if you're too drunk to realize, but you've been screaming into the microphone all the time.
	Yeah, can you just lower your volume a little bit?
	Okay, hold on.
	Michael Jones donated $200.
	Baby sitters are expensive in California.
	Brian, I can't believe you're doing it for free.
	These women are delusional.
	Don't give in to their gaslighting.
	Yep.
	All right.
	Yo, Michael Jones, thank you, man.
	Appreciate the TTS.
	W's in the chat for Michael.
	The state of things, $100.
	Has Brain and Jake been agreeing with or disagreeing with you all night?
	Have you loved or hated that?
	I loved why have you argued?
	If loved, why have you argued?
	I think you meant.
	No, he says, I loved.
	Yeah, but I think he meant to say, if you loved it, why have you argued?
	Because he's saying, have we been agreeing or disagreeing with them all not?
	Have you loved or hated it?
	I don't understand.
	I don't really get the logic of it.
	The state of things, can you send, like, I genuinely don't fully understand the question.
	If you want to send another one in, maybe you could like send it.
	That would be appreciated.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, man.
	All right, guys.
	You can get a read-in for 100.
	TTS in for 200.
	Streamlabs.com/slash whatever.
	We also, you can like the video, guys.
	Go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Let's get Twitch pulled up, twitch.tv slash whatever.
	And then also, we have Venmo and Cash App.
	It's whatever pod on Venmo and Cash App.
	I'm going to read a couple and give you guys some shout outs here.
	We do have Colin with the 50.
	Dude, guys, W's in the chat for Colin.
	Thank you so much for the 50 on Cash App.
	He sent another 15 in.
	Dude, Colin, thank you so much for the $15.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you so much, man.
	W's in the chat for Colin.
	Venmo Cash App, whatever pod.
	Appreciate it.
	Do we have the age?
	Okay.
	We'll get to that in just a moment.
	We have a couple chats here coming in while he's getting that done.
	We have Lucas.
	Rebel, can I have you read this?
	Well, I'm an attorney as well and vouch for Brian's respect towards women.
	How about them apples?
	Pull up pics of 20-year-old Brooke Shield versus now.
	That's what aging looks like.
	Alas, the mothers of tomorrow.
	Good point, Lucas.
	I mean, look, Mother Nature comes for us all.
	Aging comes for us all.
	It is what it is.
	I don't think it means anything bad if you just accept it.
	And I guess you guys just start.
	It's cope, ultimately.
	It's total cope.
	All right, Rebel, can you read this one?
	Stipulation: you cannot tell the hypothetical billionaire about this bet.
	No marrying, especially for the purpose of winning the bet.
	So you can't finesse it.
	That's what they're saying.
	Yeah, I can't be finesse.
	You can't do, oh, let me see.
	Even if you tried, even if you tried, no billionaire is going to be like, oh, okay, I'm going to marry you so you can get 100,000.
	Oh, well, split 50,000.
	Billionaires don't care about 100,000 times.
	Most billionaires are already married.
	Yes.
	Right.
	And yeah.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Grafita.
	Lucas is also my attorney, so maybe Lucas wants to draft up that send in a TTS about a legally binding contract.
	But yeah, man, you got to put your money where your mouth is.
	And aside from her.
	Billionaire is probably going to marry a supermarket.
	Mr. Mr. Millionaire.
	You can take me anywhere around the world into the sky.
	Oh, I wasn't.
	Okay, I was going to, you asked me a question.
	Why does this relate to dating?
	This whole how you're going to look, your looks thing, why we're asking about your rating on a scale of one to ten.
	This is what I think is happening in the dating marketplace.
	And you see this happening in the dating apps.
	So here's my position.
	I think women have a related to the house thing.
	$5 million, you think you got a $5 million house that's really worth a million.
	You're not going to get a buyer.
	So as a woman, if you think that you are of a certain attractiveness, that's going to lead to two things.
	One, you're going to be going after men who you think are on your level.
	But if you're actually down here, you're not going to get that guy.
	But you get him in this way.
	And this is not the W that you guys think it is.
	Women can get sexual access to guys who are more attractive than you.
	It is what it is because men welcome the easy access to sex.
	That's why you sleep with a guy and you're, oh, why can't I get commitment?
	You've been on 100 dates.
	Where's the commitment?
	You've hooked up with a couple guys.
	One of your complaints is, I can't get a boyfriend.
	So, the reason why it's really important to know where you stand and be humble and understand your own attractiveness is if you think you deserve a certain tier, a certain quality of guy, and here's where women get in trouble.
	And here's where I can understand why you might be confused.
	Women, excuse me, men will sleep with women that they have no interest in ever being in a relationship with just based on your looks.
	So, as a guy, we'll sleep with a girl.
	Men will sleep with women that they have no relationship interest in, but they're like, oh, okay, well, I mean, she's giving me sex.
	I'll keep, maybe I'll keep her around, or oftentimes it'll just be a one-night stand, but maybe he'll keep you around as a friends with benefits.
	You're not going to get commitment.
	So, then what also ends up happening, you think, oh, I can sleep with this guy.
	Let's say this guy is a 10 or a 9 or an 8.
	Oh, because I can sleep with this guy, I must also be an eight or a nine or a ten.
	But that's not your, that's not your rating.
	Your rating is the guys who will give you commitment, who will be loyal to you, who will give you a ring, who will get married to you.
	The W for the women is not, I pulled, I can sleep with that guy, I can have sex with that guy, I can be friends with benefits with that guy, I can fuck him for three months, and then he gets whatever.
	That's not the W.
	The W is when you get commitment and marriage.
	And so, the guys who are willing to give you that commitment in marriage typically aren't as attractive as the guys that you can sleep with.
	So, you're used to dealing with men who are, quite frankly, outside of your league.
	They're more attractive than you in one way or another.
	It could be looks, it could also be personality, it could also be status, it could be money.
	So, you could sleep with a guy who's a millionaire, doesn't mean that that's the guy who's going to commit to you.
	You could sleep with a professional athlete, you could sleep with a famous musician.
	I don't deny it.
	Are you getting commitment from them?
	And then you're so used to dealing with these really attractive men, whether it's money, status, or looks, you think like you think you're settling for the guy who's here.
	You think you're settling for your equivalent.
	Now, if I were to probably gender swap you, like if I took your photos and then made y'all into men, I don't think y'all would date your male version of yourself.
	I'm being for real.
	You wouldn't, like, if we change, like, you into a man, you'd be like, that guy's mid.
	Can I say something?
	Hold on.
	I'm almost done.
	I'm almost done here.
	Do you have a master of psychology?
	Oh, that's an appeal to it.
	That's yeah, well, it's just a question.
	No, I don't.
	No, yeah, do you know?
	Does anybody here?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	So, our opinions are pretty much exactly.
	Yeah, I mean, I mean, am I wrong?
	For what?
	I took a class.
	I actually heard a lot more that made me a little bit uncomfortable.
	I was like, uh-oh.
	Here, let me ask you guys.
	I can kind of point that out.
	I can kind of point that out where I slept with somebody and I said, Oh, I'm on the same level of the here.
	Let me ask you guys a question.
	Have you guys ever been sleeping with a guy and you really like him and you want to get commitment from him, but he says no?
	No, it's been the opposite for me.
	Oh, all the guys want relationship.
	It's been a really nice.
	Well, you're polyamorous.
	What about you?
	You've never dealt with a dude who just wanted sex?
	No.
	They all want a relationship with you?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Many wanted only sex because of this.
	I didn't accept them.
	I'm sorry, what?
	Man, you wanted just sex because of this, I didn't accept them.
	So you're saying that all the men you've dealt with just wanted sex and not a relationship?
	So I wanted answer because he mostly talked about me.
	So maybe it was not 100 days.
	Maybe I'm a bit exaggerated because I just say it was many dates.
	So why I didn't like the man and why I didn't have a relationship?
	Because as I find out in the dating apps here in America, men searching not a relationship, men searching the easy posies.
	Can I say this word?
	Yes.
	So once if, but I'm a very honest person and I don't play the games and I tell them directly what I'm looking for.
	They understand they don't want the same things.
	So because of this, it didn't work.
	And plus, I tell again that I'm from Miami.
	Miami is more hot state where people are more open-minded and etc.
	And as I told you, you didn't notice that I told you this year, last year, I don't go to any dates because I concentrated in my career because I understood, like you said, I need to have the right wireless values to attract the right man.
	And in Dayton's apps, in dating says, there is not that kind of man which I want.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Since you moved here, you've been on like 100 dates.
	Do you want a relationship?
	Yes, from the beginning, of course.
	And you did say you slept with someone.
	I didn't slept with anyone.
	I say this my secret because I don't want to ask my followers to watch in this and many people knows me.
	I don't wonder people know what I'm saying.
	Have you been in a situation where you were sleeping with a man and you wanted a relationship with him?
	It never happened with me like this.
	You're just contradicting yourself.
	You said the past three years you've been in Miami, you haven't been able to find a boyfriend in a relationship.
	We can read between the lines.
	You have had sex with maybe one children.
	I didn't have any sex in America.
	Okay, you're happy now.
	Then why didn't you just say that?
	Because I don't want to.
	Did she not say that she's a secret?
	She said it's a secret, which means yes, and now she's saying no.
	No, it's not yes.
	Look, guys, I posted in my Instagram that I'm here.
	I don't want people watching this and they discuss it.
	This is my private life, and I don't want anybody to know what I'm doing or I want to be aware of.
	It's hard for me to make my point if you want to answer the question, but that's.
	I already answered the question.
	I say I didn't have sex with anyone in America.
	How much else do I need to say this?
	I mean, but it sounds like you.
	Yes, two years, no sex, yes.
	I'm a good girl.
	Not like you say, you go to clubs, you do something.
	No, You don't know me.
	And not everyone is the same.
	You just judge me.
	Many days, no sex at all.
	Not like 100 days.
	I say many days is he created the 100 line.
	Not even like.
	So it's two years.
	I'm a little confused.
	I'm strong enough to wait even, I don't know, 100 years for the right man, okay?
	I'm from Ukraine.
	I'm strong.
	Okay.
	What's wrong about that?
	That's fine.
	In any case, I mean, it doesn't seem like I'm going to get a good faith answer.
	I mean, I'll continue going.
	Have you had this experience?
	You were sleeping with a guy, you wanted a relationship, he was non-committal?
	No.
	At this point, this whole panel, I'm pretty sure, is just intentionally, like, they know if they give me the kind of the answer, then they're just going to intentionally lie and just I've literally had you on the show before.
	Okay, okay.
	I don't want to admit it, but stop fucking screaming, bro.
	Holy crap.
	You can't make me a villain.
	That's hella weird.
	Just stop screaming.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	I've been with one person ever in my life that was like, oh, I love you.
	I want to be with you.
	And then I come around and they're like, no, I don't want to be with you.
	That's something that happened to me.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That's my answer.
	Next.
	Why did you have to segregate me out to get something that was lied?
	I'm not lying.
	I said no.
	You said no.
	I said no because at the original part of it, it was yes for them.
	But as soon as I got into it and I started acting the way that I act, it was no.
	But it was not starting to be.
	Bro, we told you to stop drinking and you've just like I'm not drinking anymore.
	You're just talking.
	Yeah, but you're like, you're literally trying to be a problem.
	Look at everybody.
	I know you went.
	Yeah, you drank or you went back there.
	I drank three seltzers this time.
	Is she slurring her words?
	5%.
	Called yourself a villain.
	I called myself a villain.
	A villain?
	You guys are fucking stupid.
	You guys are literally fucking.
	You're the one who looks stupid.
	I think I'm going to go.
	Good luck.
	It's just throwing out a crowd.
	Right, because they're just doing the most, right?
	First one bites the dust.
	Anyways.
	Okay.
	We'll call that a rage quit.
	Afuera.
	Avuera.
	Afuera.
	All right.
	Anyways, I think we need to do maybe some seat adjustments here.
	Here, you're going to take that seat, okay?
	You move over that seat, okay?
	You're going to take this seat.
	You're going to fucking get in my ass about some shit that's not even true or not.
	Whichever seat you're in.
	Is this me being submissive?
	Look, I'm moving over just for you.
	You're making such a fool of me.
	I'm doing it for no fun.
	The internet is forever, my dear.
	So be careful.
	What?
	I didn't hear you.
	I said the internet is forever.
	So be careful.
	Yeah, I know.
	You're making a real fool of me.
	Even though I can't find the last three of my episodes on whatever.
	So I don't think that's a good idea.
	All your episodes are still online.
	I looked for several hours.
	So that's good for me.
	She couldn't find.
	That's on you.
	Hey.
	Please don't talk back there.
	Okay, guys.
	All right.
	I just asked you to scoot over.
	I was actually.
	That wasn't the only.
	That's not what I'm talking about, obviously, Brian.
	Be for real.
	You said not to call anyone else.
	You probably should not drink.
	Just saying.
	If you've only had three self-defense.
	That's what you said from the jump when I was only drinking the first self-ter.
	So you're honestly just trying to make me seem crazy.
	And I love that for you.
	I know that you're going to get views off of it.
	And I love that for you.
	It's actually, you're actually really killing the quality of your show.
	You're not going to get into it, right?
	No, what's happening is that you're killing the quality of the show.
	No, I'm not sure.
	And you're killing the experience.
	Who are you?
	No, I'm fucking not.
	Okay, that's a good response.
	I didn't fucking do anything that was rude to you.
	Look at you.
	You asked you to stop drinking and you kept drinking and now.
	No, I did not.
	And now look at you.
	You're yelling.
	You're making a fool of yourself.
	No, I did not.
	You need to stop.
	Oh.
	You're killing the quality of the show, honestly.
	No, I'm fucking not, bro.
	Because when he told me, oh, you're probably drinking too much, I was already out of self-defense.
	If you're getting drunk, if you're slurring your words, if you're talking over everybody, if you're talking over everybody, and if you're just being better than somebody, you're so sorry that you're fucking up.
	I know you've got a real attitude and you're used to talking to people like this, but when you're actually on a panel.
	You're fucking weird.
	And I don't want to hear you out.
	That's a really, really good comeback.
	Tell me more.
	Tell me another one.
	Something a bit more, something compelling.
	You're not fucking, bro.
	We've watched the whole thing.
	You're just fucking re you're just rude.
	I'm so sorry that I combined those words together.
	Wow.
	You almost finished a sentence.
	Congratulations.
	Very good work.
	Give us another sentence.
	Go on.
	Try to finish the whole thing.
	Give us another sentence.
	Try not to slur your words.
	Go.
	Try not to slur my words for one.
	Shit, shit, shit, shit.
	Nigga, you're literally trying to be aware of it.
	That was another very articulate sentence.
	Well done.
	Uh-uh.
	Look, here's the reality.
	Make some more noises.
	By the way, what's interesting is like women can never call out other women when it's clear that they're contributing.
	No, go ahead and call me out.
	I'll ask you to do it.
	No, it's called the sisterhood.
	Just scream over her, Roman.
	They won't do it.
	It's called the sisterhood.
	They will not do it.
	Yes, Tom, she said yes.
	There we go.
	That's one.
	Am I too drunk?
	You're screaming.
	You're too loud.
	You keep talking over me.
	We keep talking over you.
	You're the one who's interrupting, bro.
	Every time we've talked, you've just screamed.
	So when I interrupted, was it me or was it them?
	You're too close to her face.
	You're doing that thing that drunk people do when they get too close and you can smell their breath.
	You can see it on the fucking.
	Yeah, even she's uncomfortable.
	You're making her uncomfortable.
	Are you uncomfortable?
	Yeah, she can smell your breath, your alcohol breath, and everything.
	No, the thing that's making me uncomfortable is the fact that you guys just won't get the fuck over it and move on to the question.
	Honestly.
	Well, we can't.
	Honestly, if somebody's killing the quality of the show, and you look at the music, typical.
	You deflect onto us.
	And it's clearly we've got a drunk idiot on the panel who won't shut up.
	Well, that was very disrespectful.
	Can we move on to the next one?
	Wait, you know what's interesting?
	Did you call her out for being disrespectful?
	She called us stupid and idiots.
	Wait, yes, you'd literally.
	Wait, chat, you're serious.
	Literally like 10 minutes ago.
	You just called me a bit like every name under the sun in one sentence, and you were saying how impressed you were by it.
	Did you call her out for that?
	Sisterhood.
	You're ridiculous.
	Crazy.
	I like how you hopped on me.
	You guys love the sucks.
	I wish I should pay the enders.
	Oh, see?
	There we go.
	She's back.
	Anyways, we'll see it, though.
	All right.
	Didn't you ask me the question?
	This is ridiculous.
	Let's move forward.
	Don't make me get it.
	What's the question?
	Or don't drag me into the bullshit.
	So ask me the question.
	Come on.
	Total sisterhood, man.
	Total sisterhood.
	Sisters unite.
	So cool.
	Yep.
	All right.
	We're going to get into the rest of the stuff.
	Perfect.
	Yeah.
	Like, dude.
	Okay.
	It's just, I got to move on.
	Otherwise, we'll just go in circles about this.
	I'm going to get into the pre-show notes.
	Oh, the age.
	Oh, yes.
	Let's do the age advance.
	How many batches?
	Can you tell me?
	Or age 14.
	Okay.
	Oh, she doesn't want to see it.
	Okay, we have to wait until she's.
	We got to wait until she's back.
	It's like that one liability friend who just gets dragged out of the club.
	Oh, you are delusional.
	Fives.
	Oh, it's below the turret.
	I wonder how attractive you are.
	Talking about fives and stuff.
	Hiding behind the computer.
	No, you're talking about we delusional because of what we think about ourselves.
	We didn't ask your opinion.
	Cyberbully.
	Even if they were a five, they'd probably admit it, though.
	Hey, man.
	Oh, I'll just, while she's gone, guys, in the title of the video, just because you guys don't think it's like clickbait or anything, I say big announcement and drama.
	So the big announcement, but unfortunately, I do have to report.
	It is not a not so much a good announcement.
	At least I think that some of you might be disappointed in this, but starting in March, we're going down to we're just gonna do one show a week.
	That we might go back up eventually, but starting in March, we're just gonna do Sunday shows.
	I know you guys, let me give you guys a reason.
	A couple reasons.
	One, it's just, you know, I didn't really get into this, but like booking for the show is a major headache.
	We had today total, 12 flakes total.
	So when I say flakes, let me start from most recent to latest.
	So we had four girls cancel today.
	We had four other girls cancel yesterday.
	And then the like 72 hours, three to four days leading up to the show had 12.
	Sorry, excuse me, four, four other girls cancel.
	So that's 12 total.
	Because you're a dickhead and you make people sit in the fucking shower and think to themselves, how stupid will I let this nigga make me look?
	Okay, I'm in the middle of something.
	Go ahead.
	That's all I had to say.
	Now you're just insulting me.
	Look.
	It was nothing about you.
	I said nothing about you.
	You called me a dickhead.
	Did she call me a dickhead?
	She might have said something like that.
	Why do we say about start coming up?
	I don't know, though.
	I don't remember.
	Sorry, what?
	Why did we say about start coming up here that they would never date a black woman?
	That's amazing.
	You had a lot of flakes, so you finna go down on one show?
	There's a couple.
	There's a couple of things.
	Definitely ask that black woman on the never date.
	Yeah, people are going to make comments.
	Okay.
	Racism.
	It's the fact that you guys have removed every single other comment, but that one we left up there for quite a while.
	What are you talking about?
	What they was being racist?
	The one that said that that's why they would never date a black woman.
	Hmm.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	Black women probably don't like you, Brian.
	All right.
	So I'll finish up kind of the announcement here.
	Just a couple things on that.
	We are going down, at least for March, April.
	We might bump back up, but just for a period of time, there's a couple things that need to be worked out behind the scenes.
	And so basically what we're going to do, going down to just one show a week, we're going to do Sunday shows.
	And I think, you know, shows can be stressful.
	I think this show exemplifies, this specific show tonight exemplifies that more than anything.
	And so because of this, you know, some of you guys know, even before I started the show, pre-existing, like, I've got like back injury, back pain issues.
	That's kind of been an issue.
	So unfortunately, I think it's just going to be, like for the longevity of the show, I don't think I could do another year doing two shows a week.
	Again, I'm going to try to change it.
	You know, hopefully we can get back to it once like things get leveled out with some of the things when it comes to business, personal health stuff.
	So yeah.
	And we're, so we are going down to just Sunday shows starting in March, but the rest of February, we got Sunday, Tuesday.
	That is the big announcement.
	I know it's maybe not the announcement you guys wanted to hear, but I think the qualities of the show will be a little better.
	So there's that.
	And then the other drama thing is, I mean, you guys see me, right?
	Like, I don't know, the viewers, you guys don't know.
	I got ice packs and stuff.
	I ice my back and whatnot.
	So I got some existing like back pain issues and just two shows a week, the stress of it, back pain.
	Got to take a little breather so I can recuperate a little better.
	But hope you guys support me with that.
	So that's the big announcement.
	The drama thing, do we get into the drama thing?
	Shit.
	You know what I'm going to do?
	I think there's some drama with a guest on Sunday.
	Do I just fucking do it?
	Fuck it.
	Why not?
	It's already pulled up.
	Actually, you know what?
	Damn.
	Forget it.
	Tonight's show already been drama.
	So if I'm going to talk about drama, it'll be next week.
	I'm not going to talk about drama tonight.
	So let's get back into the show.
	Jake, I need to get up for a second.
	Do you think you can ask just a question momentarily here?
	Jake's coming back, guys.
	We do graffito.
	Sorry for the delay on this.
	Rafi Totak donated $200.
	Okay, Ayana, I'll take your word that you're not drunk.
	But then a more serious medical assume may be going on.
	Did you mix alcohol with Xenax or something?
	This is legitimate concern, not a criticism.
	You spell my name wrong, one.
	But two, I don't do bars or pills.
	I smoke weed, yes.
	But nothing other than that.
	So.
	It is what it is.
	I'm sorry that I got a little bit too emotional because people saying shit that rubs me the wrong way.
	That is what it is.
	And also, I don't like that you're trying to discredit me because I'm quote-unquote drunk.
	Okay.
	And what about it?
	I'm so sorry that I'm speaking my opinion.
	I hope that doesn't make you angry and make you think that that's just because of the drink.
	Because if we want to take it deeper, what do they do when they drink?
	They speak the truth or no?
	I heard that a lot of times.
	So we don't drink at inappropriate times and we're going to make a fool of it.
	Okay, but I didn't drink.
	Hella.
	I did not.
	Well, then why you're not going to be able to do it?
	I'm so sorry that I'm screaming, but that's because I fucking feel passionate about it.
	It's because you're making me feel like there's something that I have to be.
	I don't care about your emotional state.
	It doesn't bother me one little bit.
	The thing is here, you're like, even when you're sober, you're prone to speaking really loud, to interrupting, and then like adding alcohol on top of that.
	You're going to be more disruptive.
	You're going to be loud.
	Don't make me do it, bro.
	Don't make me do it.
	Let's just talk about how yes, I speak loudly.
	Is it because I'm, what did you guys say earlier?
	I'm blackfotting.
	What is it?
	Black explaining.
	I'm black explaining.
	Oh, no, I have fucking emotions behind what I say.
	I'm not going to sit here and let you guys say that, oh, she's so drunk.
	So her meaning, whatever she says doesn't mean anything.
	Like, I'm not going to sit here and let that happen.
	Oh, no.
	I'm sorry that I fucking talk loud, sober or not.
	I'm sorry it's making your head hurt because you're a white man who's never had to fucking deal with the consequences of your fucking actions.
	Be so fucking for real.
	That shit's mad weird.
	And I'm so happy for you that you're getting the views off me fucking speaking my shit.
	It doesn't fucking matter, bro.
	You should speak.
	You should treat me like a fucking person.
	And oh no, I fucking stumbled on my fucking words.
	And you think that, oh, I should smush my lips together and think that I'm better than someone because they fucking stumbled.
	Oh, fucking no.
	Be so for real.
	Oh, no.
	I said very many valuable things today.
	So many things that fucking matter.
	And oh no, I'm fucking spilling my tea and I'm talking too fucking much, right?
	I'm talking way too much.
	A woman should never talk that much because she should be submissive and she should fucking be cool and she should take her shoes off when she comes in your fucking studio apartment, whatever the fuck this shit is.
	Be so fucking for real, Brian.
	Let's, I don't even want to get into it.
	I don't even want to get into it.
	There's so many times that I thought to myself, like, ooh.
	Yeah, that is racist.
	And I'm just going to move forward.
	Yeah, that's racist.
	At the end of the day.
	What?
	What's racist?
	I didn't say anything about racism.
	I said something about you towards me.
	I said something about you towards me.
	Hold on, just to be clear, I didn't invoke race at all when it came to me.
	didn't say shit about racism she she is but anyways yeah but you actually did kind of try to make it about race race because you brought up the when i gave an example that had nothing to do with it i was what was your example Can you stop interrupting?
	So she said man splaining, and I asked if it was sexist, and then I said, would black splaining be racist?
	I think that's racist.
	Me using that term isn't racist.
	Is it not?
	No, because I'm against it.
	But why'd you use it then?
	If you're against it, why would you use it?
	To test her logic.
	Why did you just invoke our skin colour?
	Why did you say it's because it's not about you being white?
	Yes, you literally did.
	You said that.
	What did I say about white?
	Or did I say blacksplaining?
	No, go ahead.
	Put me on the spot.
	I'm waiting for you.
	You want me to be honest?
	I'm begging for it.
	In your rant, you said something about them being a white man, they wouldn't understand or something.
	No, you said something about white practices or something.
	Yeah, yeah, you said you never had.
	So please tell us.
	You invoked it.
	You said something about a white man.
	You did say something about a white man.
	You said, as a white man, you never had to deal with facing your consequences or something like that.
	You said something around that line.
	Around those lines.
	You said something about white men.
	You did say something.
	Yeah, move that away or else you'll just drunkily knock it over.
	So, stop screaming.
	Stop screaming.
	What the fuck?
	What are you doing?
	Yeah, I mean, dude, did you just hear that shit?
	Did you not just hear that shit?
	And now I'm crazy.
	You know what's funny?
	Like, these are her.
	You said some good points, though.
	No accountability at all.
	Like, you're literally screaming now.
	Like, literally screaming.
	Yeah, I did scream.
	You're not just talking loud.
	You cannot do that.
	We've told you repeatedly it's a problem.
	And you're upset at us for, like, you're.
	No, I'm upset at you because you said you're just drunk.
	You don't know what you're talking about.
	I literally did not say that.
	You're saying anything.
	False accusation.
	False accusation.
	Hold on.
	I said, my issues.
	I literally didn't say that.
	I said you were drunk, so you're talking loud and you're interrupting.
	You should lay off the drinking because you're already loud.
	I did not say that.
	Yes, you did.
	I said you're base.
	So what?
	Your base level?
	You are loud.
	It's a fact.
	Because that shit is fucking irritating, bro.
	That shit is.
	If we tell you we don't like it, maybe you cut it out, though.
	I don't care if you think it's entertaining.
	You two are her friends.
	She definitely had me on here mad talking about her.
	You guys came with her?
	Who are you two?
	And you always want to sit before the person.
	You guys are a friend?
	Do you guys co-sign this behavior?
	Don't.
	Don't.
	Go ahead.
	Don't.
	You're going to let your friends back into her.
	Everyone's their own person.
	So you have no objections to what she's doing.
	You guys are just ganging up on her.
	We should just.
	We're spending so much time on this, and you're still upset about it.
	Yet you have to speak to her.
	So I did ask you to do that.
	You have time ago to control the situation, but you didn't.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Let her say, what did you say?
	I said I asked a long time ago to control the situation, but you didn't.
	So you guys have no story to tell you.
	This is question, but we still have it.
	Insane.
	We just want to harp on her because she had a couple drinks.
	Get over it.
	Get over it.
	No, I'm not going to get over it.
	She either needs to conduct herself in such a way.
	Nigga, I was conducted.
	I didn't say shit, bro.
	I didn't say shit.
	And you were screwing.
	Can we move on?
	You're interrupting.
	You're talking loud.
	You're screaming.
	I didn't scream or say anything when you guys were speaking.
	When you guys were speaking to them, did I say shit?
	No, you can run that shit back.
	You guys aren't contributing.
	You're trolling.
	You're just being disruptive.
	At this point, I'd love to have you stay, but you guys just got to leave.
	You guys got to leave.
	Yeah, I'm kicking you guys out.
	Can we give her one more question?
	Can we give her one more shot?
	Nope.
	I've given her so my entire chat is pissed off at me that I didn't kick her 30 minutes ago.
	This whole time, I've given her one, two, three, four, five chances.
	She keeps interrupting.
	She's calling me the N-word for some reason.
	I never called you the N-word.
	You literally called me the N-word multiple times.
	You've called me the N-word multiple times.
	I am not trolling.
	You're what?
	I'm not trolling.
	That's fine, but you guys are friends.
	I mean, you guys are friends with her.
	I mean, to be fair, you guys can stay, but she's got to go.
	And I know you're friends with her, but you have to leave.
	You have to leave.
	You've been way too disruptive.
	I've given you a million chances.
	Kindly get up and leave.
	For sure.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	You're mad fucking weird, Brian, considering that you asked somebody on a date.
	Weirdo.
	It was the best exit ever.
	Yeah, good idea.
	Okay, you do have to leave, though.
	So.
	I'm not leaving.
	That's my fucking ride, bro.
	I mean, you got to call a new bird.
	No, you can't be in the studio.
	You have to leave.
	You can't stay in the studio.
	You just have to leave.
	I like how you kept it on the fact that she's been drinking, continue to feed into it, and then you're like, well, you got to go.
	I mean, the code and hope coming out of you is just unbelievable.
	Imagine if it was one of us who was being an obnoxious, drunk idiot like that.
	That's my spot.
	I couldn't.
	You fed into it for about 20 minutes.
	And then you asked me to do it.
	I was giving her a chance.
	I was giving her a chance.
	You got to get out.
	You got to get out.
	I just think.
	In my opinion, that was weird.
	They were capitalizing off.
	They were just like, I feel like we should give her a wing up on her.
	Getting her answer the right question.
	You got to leave.
	Like, that shit's weird.
	What do you mean?
	Why can't you just have even the remotest little bit of accountability for her?
	Is she to blame at all?
	Why don't you guys have accountability for your actions?
	Seriously.
	Answer me this.
	Is she to blame at all?
	For blame, that takes two people.
	It takes two to tango.
	No, because we're feeding into that shit like no other.
	It does not take two to tango.
	Okay, it doesn't.
	You're right.
	It only takes one person to tango by yourself.
	Well, I told you that she speak too much.
	I already know she's a drunk.
	And I like sees that you don't see it.
	It was a long time ago.
	And she become more and more.
	And you accept this and you listen to all this bullshit.
	She was fine a few hours ago and she was having a conversation.
	You were just upset because you weren't the other one.
	I'm not upset.
	I'm upset because she's screaming all the time and she's interrupting every time.
	She was talking a lot.
	When we come here, you say the most rules is respect each other and speak one by one.
	But she always screams.
	She always interrupts.
	So you even forget three of us as the question.
	You was concentrated and she interrupted.
	Look, listen, listen, it's a seven-hour podcast.
	So sometimes these things happen.
	We're going to be focused on one person for a little while.
	You weren't upset because she was drunk.
	She wasn't drunk at the start of the show.
	She wasn't drunk.
	And now she is drunk because she's had more and more to drink.
	She already determines her to be.
	Are you going to move on to the next person?
	I see that.
	If you're going to get her one more, she's getting into the drink.
	She was providing entertainment for you.
	Because you're so interested in moving on.
	Why don't you move on the conversation?
	Well, you guys had a question.
	Why don't you move on the conversation?
	You move on.
	Because you want to move on.
	You move on the conversation.
	Talk about the girl that just got kicked out because she was drunk.
	Well, why don't you move on the conversation if you're so keen to it?
	Say something interesting.
	May I?
	Go ahead.
	I'm currently in the running to be in Sierra's music video.
	So if you click my link in my bio on Instagram, LexiYFuentes, L-E-X-I.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Yeah, these girls just came on to troll, pretty much.
	Yeah.
	I'm convinced this one next to me is a planned.
	Some sort of girls.
	They just came onto troll.
	They like probably planned all that shit.
	So, it's what it is.
	I plan business plans.
	You defend the drunk, you leave with the drunk.
	It is what it is.
	I feel like two people can be wrong at once.
	I feel like everybody can have a little bit.
	They were definitely capitalizing.
	She would definitely take it too far.
	Listen, I've paid thousands to be here.
	I've got no interest whatsoever.
	I've got no interest whatsoever in the show being derailed.
	I would much rather have a smooth running show where everybody gets to talk and when you talk about interesting things rather than having one idiot who comes on and derails the whole thing.
	That's the worst thing that can possibly happen.
	I think we should talk to people that aren't even.
	Okay.
	I just thought it was so long.
	I thought why you accept this.
	Well, like, why you accept so long?
	She had the opinion that she was doing it for ages and then we accept it.
	And that when she said before that she was speaking too much.
	Look, I mean, we should have kicked her sooner, but I mean, that's where I went wrong.
	I should have kicked her sooner, probably 30 minutes ago, an hour ago.
	I mean, but I made steps.
	I tried to do steps like, hey, you're drinking.
	Maybe lay off the drinking.
	She's like, fuck that.
	It is what it is.
	So, and then she was, by the way, guys, I don't know if you could hear what was going on back there while there's combo here.
	She was like refusing to leave, refusing, refusing.
	Finally, she did leave, though.
	But it's like, and then, oh, here's the kicker, guys.
	As she was leaving, she said, I did nothing wrong.
	She's on the phone crying with somebody.
	I did nothing wrong.
	Zero accountability.
	I was about to witness that.
	What the security cameras did.
	Zero accountability.
	Zero accountability.
	And this is why women dodge accountability because y'all, you want to play the, well, everybody contributed to the situation.
	You think somehow we're the ones in the wrong?
	Like, yeah, we're having disagreements here.
	It's a generalization, though.
	You know, not every woman has no account.
	Yeah, but here's the thing.
	You guys don't hold each other accountable.
	These are her friends.
	They're co-signing her behavior.
	They think that's totally acceptable to be acting that way on the podcast.
	But you run the show.
	So you have to make the movement.
	You're putting words in other people's before.
	I was frustrated that she wasn't answering the question directly.
	FA, everybody was kind of skating around some of the questions.
	That was frustrating.
	But I thought we were clip farming at certain points because y'all were kind of egging her on at certain points.
	And would not stop for the last 20, 30 minutes, even though you guys weren't going to be able to do that.
	She was taking it too far.
	Look, I wasn't getting it over.
	I would prefer, like, you could say it's clip farming.
	I would prefer a more chill show where we're just having the conversation and we don't have to get into this.
	Like, we start having conversations about the conversation.
	That's what's called a meta conversation.
	You're having a conversation about the conversation.
	Oh, you said, like, getting upset about the tone or what somebody's saying.
	I don't think that's good content.
	I don't think, if it was good content, I would have let her stay.
	Is she in the fucking hallway?
	Fucking.
	I think I hear her.
	God damn, bro.
	She's got to leave the building.
	Like, she's trying to get her.
	Just having a spazz out like that.
	There's nothing.
	But if it's a conversation, just say, for example, there was a conversation about something really hot, like an abortion, like a really interesting topic.
	And there was a debate, and then the person rage quit.
	That would be kind of interesting in terms of clip farming.
	But if someone's just being a drunk idiot, people are leaving the chat, you know?
	Yeah.
	And that makes sense, I guess.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	We have the message here.
	Her Uber home donating $200.
	Here's for her Rubohome for her drinking.
	However, her lens is very clouded from her perception of privilege.
	It's apparent.
	The Argonauts by Maggie Nelson.
	She needs a why the world lens.
	All right, Uberhom.
	Thank you, man.
	Jake, I got his.
	Yeah, go for it.
	But yeah, having done this podcast many times, I think it's like my 14th time or something, done this.
	We actually don't want situations like that because it actually derails the whole show.
	Brian's got a whole bunch of notes that he wants to go through and topics that he wants to go through.
	And now it's just like completely derailed.
	And obviously, look at the energy in the room now.
	It completely sours it.
	So do you guys not like care that your friend just did that?
	She gets a little bit over the top sometimes, but if, I mean, I was letting her do her thing.
	If I'm not consenting to yelling, but I do feel like she was voicing her opinion and that was creating conflict because of the way she was doing it.
	But serious question though.
	Was there at any point where you're thinking to yourself, my friend might be making a bit of a fool of herself right now.
	I should probably stop her.
	I agree that the screaming was too much, but keep on saying the N-word and keep on calling people names and like I mean, that's something that's in her vocab.
	So if she slips it, it's really just the fact that you guys didn't like the way she's saying her opinion.
	So I understand that everyone's their own person.
	So what about if someone's getting naked right now and just like flashing themselves to the camera?
	Would that be wrong?
	We signed a contract.
	Yeah, but if they were doing that and they just said it's just my way of expressing myself, would that be wrong?
	You signed a contract.
	Okay, what about if somebody was just egregiously and gratuitously insulting everybody at the table?
	Would that be wrong?
	Yes, but that was not the case.
	Yeah, but I'm asking you hypothetical questions, which is often not the case.
	Would that be wrong?
	No comment.
	No comment.
	Okay.
	I thought him calling her a dickhead and everything like that.
	I thought you guys were kind of okay with it.
	But now that I know that y'all rather have it be chill, like she should have been chill.
	I thought that was like she was doing that on purpose.
	Like, but she was really tweaking for real.
	Like, that's crazy.
	I thought she was like, it was a part of the show type shit.
	But, like, no, not that.
	Yeah, she shouldn't have been doing all that.
	I ain't gonna lie.
	Especially towards the end, because we wasn't even, she just started talking about how y'all was saying she was drunk.
	Instead of like, we could have just moved on to the next question.
	She started talking about.
	You could agree that she'd still be screaming into the mic and still be interrupting people, cutting people off, all that sort of thing.
	Yeah, that was...
	I don't know.
	She's gone and we're still talking about it.
	Right, like, so, you know.
	So why don't you move on the conversation then?
	What was the question that we were on before?
	I don't know.
	I can't remember.
	We had a whole thing.
	You're in charge of the show.
	No, no, no.
	I'm not in charge of the show.
	I'm a guest as well.
	So why don't you move the conversation on if you're so keen to do it?
	I'll wait until you guys ask a question other than about the other one.
	Okay, so then if you've got nothing interesting to say, then probably don't judge.
	It's way more interesting to talk about someone that's not even here.
	Okay, well, say something interesting then if you're so keen to move the conversation on.
	We're waiting.
	Let's continue to talk about someone that can't even.
	Funny, that wasn't all that interesting.
	I just don't have anything to add to that.
	Yeah, of course you don't.
	I mean, but she's still here, though.
	She's still getting kicked out.
	She's screaming in the hallway, and Brian can't even come and host his own show because of it.
	So what is the relationship between her and Brian?
	Why should he defend her so much?
	Why he fall off to bring her back?
	They're dating.
	It's toxic, isn't it?
	I see.
	Is there something wrong?
	Definitely.
	She was here five times.
	She's done this five times.
	She told him whatever she want, and he didn't stop her anyway.
	I say only one time why she speak too much and he rubber-based cream on me.
	So there's definitely something between them, isn't it?
	No, there's nothing going on between Brian and that's what I'm saying.
	I think knowing Brian and his type, it's probably the last woman on earth that he'd probably go for.
	I honestly barely started coming around her.
	You started what?
	I honestly barely started coming around her.
	What does that mean?
	I haven't been her friend for too long.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Are you going to be her friend for much longer?
	No comment.
	It's like a police interview.
	Why do you keep saying no comment?
	Like, I'm not sure if you're serious.
	Are you actually like this?
	Yeah, I'm being serious.
	This is your personality?
	Is she being normal right now?
	How long have you guys been friends for?
	A long time.
	Really?
	How long?
	Like high school.
	Really?
	Is she this deadpan all the time?
	Damn.
	Did you guys see the beer banging?
	What?
	You guys just hear banging out there?
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	We could have given her one more chance.
	We could have been like, okay, let's stop this spicable something funny.
	Okay, we could talk about it.
	I actually come here.
	I wanted to have some funny topic, but you ready?
	We could have been like, okay, right now, if you don't be quiet, we're going to move on.
	If you don't be quiet, we're going to have to kick you off.
	We could have hit her with that.
	And then she kept going, Dan kicked her off.
	Because I thought it was part of, you know, y'all was egging her on too.
	I'm thinking we were making some viral moments.
	So, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, I feel like we should have gave her one more chance.
	I didn't see the video of that.
	Well, good?
	She's fucking crying in the hallway, fucking freaking out.
	Damn.
	Oh, poor baby.
	And then, well, hey, Brian.
	Can I go through your show notes?
	Just can you do something else?
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	What's an interesting topic to talk about?
	Why don't you guys all name 10 countries?
	Go, you start.
	United States.
	Repeat that.
	Okay, we're going to kick going.
	We're just going to keep going around until someone fails.
	You have to name a country.
	Go.
	United States.
	A country.
	Any country?
	Yeah.
	Canada.
	Ukraine.
	Alaska?
	Alaska is a country.
	I am reviewing my world history right now.
	This is why I'm in school.
	Okay.
	Why are you reviewing your world history?
	Because I went through a lot of trauma, so it kind of like got blocked out, but it's coming back.
	In what sense?
	Do you mean like when you were a kid?
	Like you weren't able to do history?
	No, I was a good student when I was a kid.
	It's just more like my teenage years, kind of like a young adult.
	I went through a lot of trauma.
	Right.
	So what, like, blocked memories?
	Or?
	Yeah, but they're coming back shortly.
	Sorry, can you explain to me how that works?
	I'm not really sure.
	So you went through a trauma and then it made you lose memories?
	Was it like a head trauma?
	More so.
	Really?
	Was it like blunt force to the head or like you hit your head or something?
	Or was it like someone did something to you bad?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	But which one was it?
	Someone did something bad to me.
	Right.
	So it wasn't actually a physical hit to the head that made you lose memories.
	It was.
	But not by myself, intentionally.
	It was from someone else.
	Interesting.
	All right.
	All right.
	Carry on, countries.
	Let's go.
	Turkey.
	Iran.
	Spain.
	Are you texting on your phone?
	I have to make sure my friend is good.
	I have to make sure she has arrived.
	So honestly, yeah, just.
	I mean, if you leave, you have to live.
	And you guys didn't finish the podcast.
	So, yeah.
	Oh, she's okay.
	She's not.
	I didn't really see Brian talk to a silicone dog.
	The comments is funny.
	Okay, so are you staying?
	Do you have to leave?
	I'm saying, but I'm making sure she has a ride home.
	Okay.
	She's like on the phone with some dude, like freaking out.
	Okay, she should be good then.
	Yeah, she's probably good.
	Bro, I'm just curious your friends you guys hang out with her Oh, yeah.
	Does she ever get into situations like this in other circumstances?
	No.
	No?
	I don't hang out with her too much.
	Okay.
	Disney guys.
	Jake made a really good point.
	Like, internet's forever, man.
	Like, you can come on and have disagreements, but when you act like totally belligerent like that, it's not a good idea.
	That was a genuine warning, by the way.
	You know, what I was saying.
	Yeah, no.
	I mean, you were looking out for her.
	You're like, yo, like, this isn't a good look.
	Chill out.
	And she's pretty much.
	Bro, so frustrating.
	Yeah, man.
	Okay.
	Show notes, I guess.
	Oops.
	I guess we could do get into this.
	I need to remove some people from this.
	So what's her name?
	I think Iana is her name.
	All right.
	So, Rebel, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
	I put $100K down on the questionnaire, but in this economy, it needs to be a little bit more than that, $150.
	$150.
	$150.
	$100K is poor.
	Money doesn't matter to me.
	Okay.
	So you'll date a guy who works at McDonald's?
	If he's kind and loyal and lovely to me, yes.
	I have my own money.
	Period.
	Okay.
	I don't know how to account yearly, but I say like if he earned like me or more than me, it's okay.
	I don't care.
	You'll date a guy who works at McDonald's?
	Probably not, but I'm not necessarily counting their pockets.
	I want someone that's vision-driven, not necessarily working at 95.
	Who's Natalie?
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I would say definitely making more than me.
	It doesn't matter too much on the number, but sure.
	You said six figures here.
	That's more than me.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Money doesn't matter to me either.
	Okay.
	The number doesn't matter.
	It's just a little bit more than me.
	All right.
	The number doesn't matter.
	So you'll date a guy who works at McDonald's?
	I'll date any guy who's for me.
	Who's what?
	Who is for me?
	For you?
	Okay.
	How tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man that you would date?
	Starting with you, Rebel?
	5'5.
	Just gotta be just a little bit over me, like an inch.
	Well, I say 5'7, because if I put on a little inch, you know, 5'7, that's it.
	I don't really care about him being super tall.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yeah, I don't have like a minimum.
	Like, it's really like if the guy's kind and has a nice personality, you know, but he can't be a midget.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm 5'6, so I would like that he will be taller than me.
	So, like, I think here you wrote minimum 5'8.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Callie?
	Just taller than me.
	I'm like 5'2 ⁇ , 5'3.
	Okay.
	He could be 5'3 and a half.
	Eva.
	I'm 5'8, so I would like a taller man, maybe like 6'.
	I don't have a cutoff.
	I'm not saying if you're below that, you're not seeing me ever, but definitely I would like to wear some heels and still be shorter.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'3.
	I would probably say my height or taller.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	The question, what dating preferences standards do you have?
	Wait.
	Rebel, you said no one who is broke or ugly and ambition.
	Yeah, like you have to have, you don't necessarily have to be rich, but you have to be something that you're chasing.
	Like you have to be as passionate about something as I am because I'm chasing my dreams full force.
	Roxanna, you say funny, generous, loving, and doesn't play games and honest.
	I'm a little confused though.
	You said income doesn't matter.
	I suppose there's other ways to be generous, but is a man generous with their time.
	Okay, that's their attention.
	Sure.
	Elena.
	Yes.
	You said you like when a man acts like a gentleman?
	Is that a gentleman?
	Yes, gentlemen, Lord.
	Gentleman?
	Okay.
	I know how to act like a gentleman.
	All right.
	Callie, you said I date based off common interests, morals, and values.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You said be up to par.
	What does that mean?
	To elaborate on up to par, I would say I would like you to come with foundation and then be able to grow that.
	Like, don't just be who you are and be fine with it.
	I want you to improve.
	Definitely have motivation and something that drives you.
	Like that drive is very important.
	Okay.
	And then you had, let's see here.
	Mutual respect.
	Okay.
	Next question is: would you rather cross paths with men or bear in the forest?
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	Only just a man because I feel like I could take a man.
	Like a bear.
	I couldn't take another man.
	Like, just I couldn't take no bear.
	So, a man.
	Yeah.
	And we being logical.
	But I ain't.
	So man.
	Yeah, a man.
	What do you pick?
	Well, I mean, depends how hungry I am.
	Do I want to eat the bear if I'm stranded in the woods?
	No.
	I don't know.
	I mean, a bear, I mean, depends on the guy, too.
	Do I want to be like around a guy I don't like and like is horrible?
	Or a bear?
	You know, I would pick the bear.
	But if I'm with a guy that I like and enjoy their company, of course I'd be with the guy.
	But bear can eat you.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Yeah.
	I mean, what about a random man?
	A random man, a random bear.
	Yeah, random man, random bear.
	Random bear.
	That's a good way to put it right.
	Oh man, that's a dice.
	You're so hot.
	I mean, yeah, I guess I'm man.
	Whatever.
	Okay.
	I wouldn't be in the forest, but a man.
	I put a bear because actually the question was running into them.
	Like, what is the situation?
	You would cross paths.
	Oh, yeah.
	I could cross paths with a bear, but if I see like a random man in the forest, why are you in the middle of the forest?
	Like, there's a red man.
	Please tell me that I'm on a hike.
	But he could be a killer.
	And that's why he's in the forest.
	He could.
	He could also be on the hike just like you.
	And that bear could just be chilly eating berries and I'll be.
	I think you like animals, you know.
	And then is it a black bear or a brown bear?
	That matters.
	Because if it's a black bear, I chose the bear.
	Because black bears ain't really nothing.
	Black attack, brown, lay down.
	White, good night.
	I don't want to remember that.
	If it's a black bear, I'm choosing a bear.
	But you can go.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I said both.
	I think it would be a beautiful experience.
	Wait, sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I said both.
	I think it would be a beautiful experience.
	Three-way.
	What would be a beautiful experience?
	What do you mean?
	Well, it was just crossing paths with whoever.
	And if you had to pick one, though, which do you pick?
	Say it's the love of my life and we're both on a hike and we see each other.
	It's a random man.
	So all the men, we'll just do United States.
	All the men in the United States versus all the bears in the United States.
	You randomly spawn into the forest and then you have a button in front of you.
	You can pick, you press the button to pick the men, pick the button to press the bear.
	They'll spawn right there and you'll walk past them.
	Which do you pick?
	A man.
	I was a Girl Scout, so we could probably just help each other.
	All right.
	There you go.
	So you're the only one that picked bear.
	Why do you pick bear and why don't you pick men?
	I said bear because like that's his natural habitat.
	If I see a bear, I'm not going to think anything of it.
	If I'm in the woods for some reason, whatever that may be, and I see a man, I'm going to be a little bit like, I'll avoid you, right?
	Because what are you doing here?
	Are you homeless?
	Are you living in the woods?
	Are you a murderer burying your victims?
	Like, we don't know.
	Okay.
	What if it's 10 men versus 10 bears?
	Does your answer change?
	Does this mean we're like fighting the men or bears?
	I don't know.
	It's a gay bears.
	Sheesh.
	I guess the men.
	I mean, it's just, I just didn't think we were in combat mode.
	I didn't know we were about to square up.
	I was just thinking, like, can you cross them?
	Okay.
	We're going to get into the disagreement section when it comes to this.
	So starting with Rebel over here, why don't we start normally?
	We start from down here because it's more interesting.
	But why not?
	Men are not insecure.
	So here's the statement.
	Men are not insecure for caring about a woman's body count.
	You disagree.
	Roxanna, you disagree.
	Elena, who's up at the moment, disagrees.
	Callie is fine with it.
	Ava, is it Ava or Ava?
	Ava.
	Ava is fine with it.
	You're also fine with it.
	So for the three that disagree, you think men are insecure for caring about the woman's body count?
	Why is that?
	Absolutely.
	Because why do you care?
	Why do you care how many bodies they have?
	That definitely comes from some insecurity.
	Like, why do you care?
	So you're curious why?
	And because you're wondering why.
	Yeah, it's like what's your reasoning?
	Like, do you, if you care about a woman's body count, what reasoning from that, it only comes from a place of insecurity.
	So only?
	I would say only with that.
	If it's provable that women with a lower body count with less sexual partners proven to be better wives and be much less likely to divorce, would that be a good reason?
	That would be a good reason.
	That would be a good reason.
	But is that proven?
	Is that statistics?
	It is, yeah.
	They've done a lot of research into this.
	And also, would you say that somebody who has those sorts of boundaries is more secure or less secure?
	Less secure.
	Less secure because a person's past doesn't really matter when it comes to what they are going to provide you.
	Was that a screen?
	Yeah, that was her.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So like, just to be clear, yeah, that was her screaming.
	I'm sorry.
	So, like, you guys think that that's like normal, healthy behavior to just be screaming out in public?
	Anyways.
	No comment.
	Chat, did you guys hear that too?
	Played the fish.
	Holy shit, dude.
	Holy shit.
	Can I explain why buddy counts?
	Here, we'll come to you.
	We'll come to you, but let's, Roxanna, we'll go in order.
	You think men are insecure for caring about the woman's body count?
	Why is that?
	Because it shouldn't matter if you really love that person.
	Okay.
	So.
	Wait.
	Well, we'll let everybody go.
	Okay, go ahead.
	So when God creates man and woman, he creates us in different ways.
	So man is responsible for the quantity of the children in this world.
	And woman is responsible for the quality.
	So because of this, man would like to fuck everyone around because it's his God's desire.
	And woman should pick the best one to have the best genes for your baby.
	But if woman is not selective, if she fucking around, she cannot be the good woman.
	Okay?
	Thank you.
	So wait, you're fine with men?
	Like you think it's cool if men care about a woman's body count?
	I think everybody doing this, just somebody say, and somebody say bullshit just to get the I think maybe you just circled it incorrectly then.
	Yeah, because ask her what does it mean?
	She tells me put the circle.
	Sorry, yes.
	Okay, that's great.
	So you said if you love the person, then it doesn't matter, right?
	Yeah, it doesn't matter.
	So how long does it typically take to fall in love with somebody?
	A couple months, a year?
	Oh, depends how often you see each other, of course.
	And then I don't know.
	Like, I think it varies between each person, you know, man and woman.
	For me personally, like, maybe like a month, two months, you know, maybe even three months before I fall in love.
	Okay, so let's say you disclose your body count or a guy knows your body count on the first or second date before he's fallen in love with you.
	What would be wrong with him disqualifying a woman on that basis?
	Because he's not in love with her, so he does care about it.
	Well, if it's important to him, then that's his thing.
	Let him worry about that.
	So you're just saying if it's gotten to the point where you love each other, then he wouldn't care about it.
	He wouldn't care.
	I mean, my position would just be, though, if he does care about it, he wouldn't let it get to that position.
	That's right.
	If it's a pressing issue, number one issue, and that's the first thing he's like, and that's all he cares about.
	Well, he's probably going to have a hard time finding someone, A.
	And B, it's like he's not giving a chance to a woman that may be compatible in every other category that checks off the box for him.
	Okay.
	I feel like as a man, if you have a low body count and you want a woman who has a low body count, that's a preference.
	But if you have a high body count and you actually care, you could be curious and ask somebody your body count, but if you actually care, like, oh, you have too high a body count and you have a high body count, it's insecurity, it's judgment.
	That's how I feel.
	Like, you could be a preference, like, oh, I'm in shape, so I want somebody to be in shape.
	Okay, that's a preference.
	But you can't be judgmental when you have all your stick in your eye as well.
	But you just before said that you want somebody who earns more than you.
	Is that hypocritical?
	I wouldn't say that, though.
	Because for me personally, I'm not looking for somebody to take care of me.
	Yeah, but you said you want them to earn more than you.
	That would mean that they're financially superior to you.
	Would that be hypocritical?
	Because you don't earn as much as them?
	I guess.
	And same with the heart.
	You said you wanted someone who's taller than you.
	Would that make you a hypocrite?
	That's not making me a hypocrite.
	That's just my preference.
	Well, I think that I would agree with you that it doesn't make you a hypocrite.
	But I would also say for a guy who has a preference, despite even if he has a higher body count, it's just a preference.
	It wouldn't necessarily an insecurity.
	I guess you could say that.
	I guess you could say that.
	I get it to you.
	But I think what you were saying before about all the other things, it's actually not a bad point.
	Like, I can understand that point of view in terms of that they might have all of these other things.
	But if they it just depends if the guy has a serious preference for like you know a low body count, but you know, there are good women out there that have had a past and that have sort of come back around.
	That is possible, and they can, if they are in that situation, then there are other things that they can obviously do.
	But if the guy has a real preference for it, then it's gonna be hard to look past.
	It's kind of silly to write off somebody just based on one issue.
	Why?
	Because they could have other qualities about them or that might compensate.
	I mean, sure, but I think women are pickier than men are, and you guys will disqualify men for all sorts of reasons, and many of these tend to be fairly superficial.
	I mean, a lot of, I'm not saying the women here necessarily, but certain women won't date a guy because of his height, or maybe he's balding, or maybe there's some characteristic about him that, like, y'all disqualify a lot of men.
	Like, most of the men that hit on you, do you date all of them?
	No.
	Like, what percentage of men that shoot their shot do you like end up with?
	I'm probably, like, not a good, like, have you been on a dating app?
	No, never.
	Have you?
	I mean, you can think back really at any point in your life.
	Maybe there were times where, I mean, it sounds like you got kids, maybe you're really busy right now, maybe you're not dating a whole bunch.
	But like, maybe when you're younger, you're in college, and there was like all the guys that were trying to get at you, you gave them all a chance?
	No, I did not.
	No.
	Why not?
	Because I already knew right off the bat that we're not compatible.
	Oh, but like, why are you basing them just off of compatibility?
	Like, why not give them a chance?
	Just by the way, how they carry themselves or how they would ask me out for, I don't know, like, if somebody was like in a nightclub and drinking and stuff, he's drinking.
	I don't, I don't, that's a turnoff for me.
	I don't want to be aware of that.
	I mean, I personally don't like nightclubs.
	I'm not a drinker, but if he's in the, you went out and I mean, it's not weird.
	It's supposed to work in a nightclub.
	But yes.
	I mean, it's, isn't that what people do at nightclubs, though?
	They drink?
	Yeah, this is true, yes.
	But I mean, what I'm saying is that.
	But what if they have really good other characteristics to make up for it?
	Make up for their drinking?
	Well, I mean, there's also chemistry, unspoken chemistry, you know, that you just know this is not going to happen.
	What if you don't have that immediately?
	Well, I mean, I shouldn't give a chance to every single guy who like gives me attention or says hi or like asks me out on a date.
	You know, time is valuable.
	So I have to weed out people, right?
	So when I was dating, way back when, I would just see first if we would be compatible just as friends.
	You know, try it out as friends.
	And if I like the person as a friend, maybe it can develop into something else.
	But I mean, didn't you just say that you can't write off somebody off of just one thing?
	So like failure to get compatibility is just one thing?
	No, see, the issue is that there's one issue of how many people did that person sleep with or vice versa, the girl, right?
	Okay, so if you base on dating somebody just on that, you're really like shooting it in the dark, you know?
	Other qualities.
	It's not insecurity, but it might be unrealistic.
	It might not be insecurity, but it's unrealistic to spec, like, want somebody with a low body count if you don't have one.
	I mean, we have a girl over here who took a wager that she's going to end up with a billionaire.
	I mean, me not wanting to date a promiscuous woman seems a lot more reasonable than her wanting to date a billionaire.
	It's unrealistic, though.
	It depends on what.
	I don't think it's unrealistic.
	Like, I just feel like, as a woman, if you're broke and you're expecting you want to date a man that's a billionaire, that's unrealistic.
	The same way if you have a high value.
	Do you think that it would be, if I was to say to you right now that I'll only date a girl who is a virgin, for example, do you think that it would be realistic for me to find somebody like that?
	No.
	If you go to a third world country, maybe, or like no other countries.
	It's unrealistic.
	Not saying it's not possible, but it's unrealistic.
	Unrealistic would mean that unreal, so it's not going to happen.
	It's like not likely, like, not likely for you to, like, or even expect that out of someone to be a virgin.
	I mean, you could slip for that, but like, you know what I mean?
	Like, how about you guys?
	Do you think that that would be unrealistic for me to expect that?
	Are you a virgin?
	It's not the question.
	The question is, do you think it would be unrealistic for me to expect that?
	Or for me to think that I could date somebody like that?
	Yeah, I mean, it is a little unrealistic, I would say.
	Unless there's like, especially since you're not a virgin.
	Yeah.
	What's wrong with that?
	Well, you're looking for something, but you don't meet that.
	Yeah, so like you said before, you're looking for somebody who's taller than you.
	You said that.
	So you're looking for something that you don't meet?
	I put some hills on and I do.
	So you're looking for somebody who is naturally taller than you?
	So are you looking for somebody who's what you're not?
	Okay, I didn't say that they had to be a lot taller than me.
	But they're taller than you, right?
	Okay.
	So is that unrealistic for you to expect somebody who's five foot two and above?
	No, that's more likely than you to get a virgin.
	Why?
	Because in America there aren't that many virgins.
	And on top of that, why would she be interested in you?
	If she's looking for someone with virtue, then why would she be looking for you?
	Well, how do you know?
	What do you know about me?
	Well, are you a virgin?
	What does it matter?
	Honestly, what do you do?
	That's the point.
	So do you think that body count is more important for women or men?
	I think men make it more important for women to have a lower body count.
	It's not something that I ask men.
	So you think it's more important?
	So you think it's more important for men then?
	Yeah, I think you guys hold that more important.
	Okay, so do you think that a woman who is a virgin would be likely to go for a guy who has more experience?
	Or do you think that that's unrealistic?
	I think it's more of a cultural thing.
	Most people that are waiting for marriage, they're also waiting for someone that's also waiting for marriage.
	Not necessarily.
	Or a religious thing.
	It could be a religious thing.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'll tell you now.
	That's my opinion, so I don't know what you want me to do.
	I mean, I've dated virgins before, and they are out there.
	They do exist.
	And it's definitely, definitely not something that they'll write you off for if you're not a virgin yourself.
	Like, a less experienced woman with an experienced man, that's no problem for them.
	Yeah.
	I do need to let a chat come in here.
	Graffito, thank you, man Donated $200 How would you feel if a guy was so rich by his mid-30s that he never had to work again?
	So he chooses to be on permanent vacation for the rest of his life never returning to the workforce Before I have you guys answer this, Graffito, I know this came in about 15 minutes ago.
	I do apologize.
	There were some distractions.
	I had to get up from the table.
	People making noise in the hallway.
	I had to deal with it.
	So I do apologize.
	I missed it.
	Just can I say put a bow on that as well?
	Yeah, sure.
	I mean, I just find it really funny that something that's not unlikely or unrealistic whatsoever is finding a girl who is a virgin.
	I mean, there are quite a few virgins out there.
	And you guys will call it out and say it's unrealistic.
	But when these girls are saying that they want to date a billionaire, which is almost statistically impossible, no one says anything.
	Yeah.
	And a little bit to their point, though, I mean, I think it is the case that there's like rampant promiscuity.
	So I don't think they're totally wrong.
	And so I think they're trying to almost argue sort of our own position that they're almost arguing our position.
	Like, women aren't traditional anymore.
	No virtue, no chastity, strumpets, 3FOs.
	They're not wrong in saying it's way harder to find that today.
	Like, because there's not a lot of.
	It's more likely, though, than some of the other scenarios we've heard about tonight.
	Like, being hot as fuck is at 100.
	And, like, that shit.
	They're not wrong about that on that factor, that it's more difficult these days to find, but wrong in the sense that the women who are virgins are going to disqualify men who aren't virgins themselves.
	Oh, graffito, I promise we're going to get right into it, but I wanted to do something with the rating thing.
	So all of you, so wait, it was nine, eight, ten, ten, ten, ten, right?
	So just to be clear, and did y'all, I think they all rated you nine and me seven, if I recall.
	You gave me a six, I think?
	I gave you both tens.
	Yeah, so did I?
	She gave us both tens.
	Six and a five, I think.
	Yeah, that's it.
	So just to be clear, I think every, I think almost all of you, I guess except for you and maybe you're not.
	So you guys, so you're nine and he's a nine.
	Is that right?
	Okay, so aren't you a ten?
	No, she said nine.
	Nine?
	Yeah.
	So you like neither one of, like you wouldn't be settling for him and he wouldn't be settling for you.
	Like it's equi, it's that would be a fair matchup.
	Okay.
	And then you gave yourself a ten.
	I think you gave me a seven and eight.
	Seven and a nine?
	Eight.
	Eight, yes.
	Oh, seven and eight.
	So in your view, let's get fix the split.
	In your view, like seven and six, or what was it?
	Seven and eight.
	Seven, eight, ten.
	Yes.
	You would be settling if you were to date me or Jake.
	Said?
	Settling.
	Do you know this word?
	Settling?
	Say another word.
	So you would be settling for something that's below you.
	We're below your standards.
	Settle, huh?
	It's okay.
	You mean would I date somebody who is seven?
	Who's like less attractive than you?
	So you're a ten and I'm eight and he's a seven.
	So if you were dating us, we would be looking up and saying, wow, we're dating a ten.
	Like it would be good for you.
	It would be really good for us.
	Yes, because women should inspire the men to be better for this God creators.
	Period.
	Why not?
	Bro.
	So like you would be doing us a favor.
	Not like a favor.
	With the right wise woman, men always become rich and successful.
	Was the stupid woman, he become poor and he feeling bad.
	This is true.
	You want or you don't know?
	That's true.
	Wise woman is very important.
	Very, wise woman, very important.
	Of course.
	But it looks wise.
	You would be doing us a favor.
	If you're a man, if you it's everybody, what you look and you will find it.
	What you search, you will find.
	If you search that, if you think that all women are stupid, then you will find a stupid woman.
	If you think opposite that you deserve the best woman in the world, you will find her too.
	Everything is the same.
	So do you think that if somebody was a five-foot-one guy who is living in Uganda and working in a coal mine, if he thinks that he's going to marry a Victoria Secret supermodel from Sweden, he will marry them?
	Of course, there are many things like this happening in this world.
	Everything can happen.
	Maybe he will find black oil tomorrow or I don't know.
	Or something else.
	I believe in miracles.
	And I believe that everybody could create his own life whatever he wants.
	And nobody can stop you from at least dreaming and achieve your best.
	It would be very stupid to desire the homeless or stupid man.
	Everybody desires to be the best one.
	That's beautiful.
	Yes, because we need to have a progress in this life, not degradation, you know.
	So everybody deserves and want to have a better partner than you are.
	To grow together, to achieve the goals, to be the better.
	you know what jake i you know if if i got with like a victoria's secret model she should feel she's i'm settling with We're settling.
	We are settling.
	We need to.
	If we think that we're settling, if we think we are above it, then we are, essentially.
	You know what, Jake?
	I think that, you know, if you find like a beautiful 21-year-old virgin who's like a 10 out of 10, just whatever your exact type is, I do think you would be kind of settling for that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like, why stop there?
	Just maybe like a harem.
	Because you deserve it.
	You're a king.
	Yeah.
	And if she won't find someone who will.
	And I'm thinking about it hard enough that it will happen.
	Ten of them.
	Okay.
	Oh, wait.
	Rebel.
	Wait, eight?
	You gave me six.
	You gave him what?
	No, I gave you seven.
	Oh, seven?
	And I gave him eight.
	Callie, ten, was it seven, nine?
	No, I read it you guys tens.
	Oh, she did?
	I thought she said that.
	Yeah, she did.
	I did.
	Really?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What did you say?
	I said, I repeated what y'all said, so five and six.
	So like if you and me, if we dated, it'd be a serious downgrade.
	You would be settling.
	I would never date you, and I don't want to settle.
	No, no, I know.
	Like, that's fine.
	I'm not offended at all.
	But you would be settling.
	Like, if you and me were dating, you would be like settling five points.
	Like, you're at a 10, I'm down here at a five.
	I just want to make sure we're on the same page.
	I would be settling if that were the case, but I would never settle.
	She wouldn't settle.
	She would not settle.
	Now, I want to ask the chat.
	Or what about Jake?
	Would you be settling for Jake too?
	looks yes you she would be settling for okay that's cool That's great.
	Now, chat.
	I want the chat to weigh in here.
	It seems like all these women, except for her and her who gave the troll 10 answers, they think they would be settling for me, for Jake.
	Do you think that's the case, chat?
	Do you think they would be settling for us?
	Or would we be settling for them?
	You heard it from her first.
	Definitely a troll would never say they're not a troll, of course.
	Trolls are always honest, and they admit up front when they are trolling.
	But there's the chat.
	Okay, let me let this one come through again, Graffito.
	I do apologize.
	Grafit Totak donated $200.
	How would you feel if the guy was so like in his mid-30s that he never had to work again?
	So he chooses to be on permanent vacation for the rest of his life, never returning to the workforce.
	Yo, tag, thank you again.
	Sorry for the delay on this.
	Go ahead if you want to answer it.
	Who cares?
	You do you, boo?
	Okay, if you're rich.
	35, rich, never wants to work again.
	Cool with it?
	Yes or no?
	Yeah, that's fine.
	Yes, of course.
	Okay.
	Are you able to scoot your mic a little more that way and scoot it to the edge of the table?
	I need you to center up your mic so it's kind of like center with you.
	What about you?
	He's living his life.
	Why would I care?
	Okay.
	Yeah, take me on vacation.
	Let's go.
	Congratulations.
	What question was that?
	Genuinely, congratulations.
	Congrats.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Jason Castle donated $200.
	Just because you are all 304s doesn't mean all women are 304s.
	Brian has a much higher chance of getting a virgin than you delusional women getting a billionaire.
	I am not a 304.
	Oh, we were talking about body counts, I guess.
	Just show of hands.
	Who here thinks body count matters?
	Body count matters to some degree.
	Yeah.
	Let's go around the table.
	Like that girl who smashed 100 men in a day.
	Like, no.
	Like, nah, that matters.
	Like, it matters how old you is.
	Like, I ain't gonna lie.
	Cause like I'm body positive, but I'm not smashing a girl that smashed 100 men in a day.
	I'm not doing that.
	So it matters on some level, yeah.
	Sure.
	Oh, Wrath.
	By the way, I apologize for some reason.
	My Streamlabs isn't showing this.
	You gifted, I believe, 20 subs about 20 minutes ago, but for some reason it bugged out.
	But Wrath, PSA, thing for the gifted subs on Twitch.
	So going, I guess, going around the table, what's everybody's body count?
	Going start to.
	Wait, Rebel.
	Whoa!
	Let me let me think about it.
	Go ahead, you first.
	What's your body count?
	Oh, my God.
	Why does it matter?
	That's how you respond.
	I gotta add it up.
	Well, for me, it's at least.
	Wait, body count, is that like a baby coming out of you?
	Body count is three babies.
	Body count is how many men you've had carnal knowledge with.
	That's the first carnal knowledge of 20.
	We're doing men and women.
	We're doing everybody, men and women.
	Break it down.
	Break it down.
	Okay, go ahead, y'all.
	Go ahead.
	You got a list.
	Who has a list?
	I'm not going to ask to see it, but just who has a list in the phone?
	I don't have a list.
	Of the bodies.
	What's that?
	Anybody?
	Okay, all right.
	Body count?
	No, I can't say.
	I thought it's wrong for men to care about body count, and they're insecure if they do care about it.
	So body count shouldn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	Like, man or woman, it doesn't matter.
	Are you insecure about it?
	I'm not.
	No.
	Oh, then, I mean, if you're not insecure about it, then shouldn't you just be okay revealing it?
	I don't know.
	Well, no, that's private.
	That's my private, like.
	Sure.
	You don't have to reveal.
	That's fine.
	Do you want to, how about instead of an actual number?
	Do you want to do a range?
	A range?
	Oh, man.
	We'd like to offer up a range.
	Okay, less than 10.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Less than 5.
	Less than 5?
	You can give us the actual number.
	You can give a range, but actual number is preferable.
	No.
	Range?
	Under 10.
	Okay.
	I would disclose this information to a significant other, probably not to y'all.
	Just on the internet range, no, thank you.
	Um, I don't really care.
	I feel like I think I got four guys and like three girls.
	Oh, I mean, you were like, hold on, let me know because I have to remember.
	I have to make sure.
	Like, what really counts like is fooling around.
	Like, are we talking counting penetration?
	You gotta count for seven.
	You had, I did have to count because you won't be remembering all the time by three, and that's the real number for all of you.
	All right, hold on, we got this graffiti totak donated $200.
	Really?
	The lack of drive isn't to turn off.
	Shouldn't a man work in some capacity, even if he is rich enough to not need to work?
	Shouldn't he do something productive, not sit on his love until he dies?
	Working and being productive is different.
	You could still build stuff and do what you do and not work.
	So, for sure.
	Sure.
	Well, if he's doing what he loves, it's not work technically, right?
	You know, okay.
	Whatever hobby he might have or something.
	Sure, sure.
	Um, I mean, Graffito, I don't know.
	I wonder if, I mean, if you worked so hard, though, earlier in life to the point that you could retire at 35 or whatever, I think you said mid-30s.
	I mean, it's kind of like, like, let's say somebody works till they're 65, but they're just doing like a nine-to-five job, and versus like a guy who just grinds in like 20s, early 30s, and he makes the same amount of money he would have otherwise made, or maybe even more, by grinding.
	And then he's like, Well, I made enough money to retire.
	I don't know if it's a lack of drive, you know, necessarily, but I think there are definitely some men who just, even if they've, I mean, like, you got to look at people who make who have more than like five mil up to billionaires.
	They're good.
	They could, Elon Musk, he could be done.
	Like, he doesn't, he doesn't need a, he's got like millennias of it's probably more.
	I'm probably downgrading it, of uh, generational wealth, but he's got that drive, he wants a trillion.
	He's not happy with being the billionaire, he wants to be a trillionaire.
	So, uh, Graffito, thank you for that question, though.
	Really appreciate it, guys.
	Graffito's a long time supporter.
	I want you guys to put some W's in the chat for Graffito tagged.
	He's a big supporter of the show, so I really appreciate your question, man.
	All right, we do have let's see, Rebel, can you read this one?
	Man, I was reading this one already.
	I don't even want to go.
	This looks daughters of Eve, you believe the lie.
	You will not be equal to a man.
	Eve wanted the same, she did us no favors.
	You choose according to a fallen nature.
	Jesus Christ, the living word, who, oh my god, this is terrible.
	Who is all the father is expressed perfectly?
	Is our only hope?
	Yo, John, got pastors in the chat, John.
	I really appreciate your super chat, man.
	Guys, W's in the chat for John for his very generous super chat.
	John, thank you so much, man.
	L's in the chat.
	Why, wait, why L in the chat?
	Because what's talking about?
	Are you like anti-religion or something?
	Why I'm anti-misogyny.
	You talking about will never be equal to a man.
	What?
	Okay.
	All right.
	A man that finds a woman is a good thing.
	It says that in the Bible, too, Mr. Religious John.
	Oh, shit.
	Theological debate coming.
	We would man wouldn't be here without no woman.
	What do you mean?
	All right.
	Okay, we're going to get back into the questionnaire here.
	Let's see.
	Let's see if there's any disagreements on two.
	I don't think so.
	No.
	We have a couple, excuse me, a couple disagreements on three.
	Women should pay $50-50 on first dates.
	Rebel, you disagree.
	Roxanna, you disagree.
	Elena, you disagree.
	That's it for those, you three here.
	You think men should pay for first dates?
	Whoever asks who out.
	That's all, because I put disagree, but it's whoever who asks who out.
	Your position.
	I think the man should pay.
	Your position.
	Man should pay.
	Man should pay.
	And the other girls here, maybe that's not your position, but are you okay with it being their position?
	Like, you don't think it's sexist?
	Like, you think, no, they can have that opinion.
	Like, nothing wrong with it.
	I think a man should pay, but if he wants to go 50-50, I would understand that.
	It's the first day we just met, so they don't know what's up.
	Definitely could.
	You cool with their position?
	Yeah.
	Cool with their position?
	Okay.
	I want to explore a couple shoulds, right?
	So as long as you guys are okay with men should pay, are you guys fine with like the following should statement?
	Should women cook and clean?
	Yes.
	I think it's more so a shared responsibility.
	I don't mind cooking and cleaning, but I'm not a maid.
	Should people cook and clean?
	I think it's like a...
	No, cooking, like in the context of a relationship, she should do the cooking and the cleaning in the same way that you guys say...
	Oh, so is he paying all the bills?
	Sure.
	Because I feel like that's a job.
	Well, shit.
	Hell yeah.
	Okay, fine.
	How about this?
	Women should be virgins.
	Or women should have low body counts.
	Are you guys fine with that should statement too?
	Well, men should too, then.
	No.
	Should I actually don't disagree?
	Who said that?
	Like, who said women should be a virgin?
	I just did.
	As a question, though.
	No.
	No.
	Answer.
	Don't anybody agree with that?
	Okay.
	All right.
	But on the in-verse, you would say then that women should have sex with multiple men before marriage.
	But who's saying should?
	Like, who's saying what's right and wrong?
	Yeah, but it's always talking in an idealistic sense.
	No.
	No.
	Women shouldn't.
	What ideals are these?
	Women should be whatever they want to be.
	Do you think that there is an ideal?
	Do we have to go back to gangbangland?
	It's like everybody, you know, everybody should drink a lot of water.
	Should, you know what I'm saying?
	Certain things.
	I don't know.
	No ideal, there's no ideal.
	Should men have a low body count?
	Should men be virgins?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I should.
	Do you think that women should as well, then?
	That's your opinion.
	That's your opinion.
	I'm honest.
	I feel like everybody.
	Did I kind of answer a question?
	I just think everybody wants different things and everybody deserves different things.
	So one time in my life, I dreamed to be virgin and find a virgin man.
	And guess what?
	It happened?
	And we were dating together two years.
	It was a very, very good relationship.
	And yes, when I met him, he was a very simple guy.
	After two years living with me, he become much more rich.
	He changed his car.
	Like, he become very good.
	So every dreams come true.
	But now I don't dream to have a virgin.
	So it's like different.
	I had that time of my life.
	Now it's another.
	Question here for Rebel, you said that in, here's the statement.
	A man dating a transgender woman is not straight.
	You disagree with the statement.
	Why is that?
	Trans woman is a woman.
	Is a trans woman?
	If your trans partner and they look like a woman, you're attracted to that.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, I agree that men can be tricked.
	But are transgender women female?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Well, just for the sake of this conversation, I'm going to go ahead and grant that this isn't actually my position, but that transgender women are women.
	So we're talking about gender, but now I'm talking about sex.
	Are transgender women female?
	Female.
	Like, a woman and females do different things.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	So, like, female means you have a certain type of chromosomes, you have a reproduction system and everything.
	Born a certain way.
	So I feel like trans women are women.
	But you think they're female.
	Sex and gender are two different things, though.
	That's the thing.
	So, like, I guess.
	So are transgender women male?
	That's such a hard question.
	Nah, they're not male either, though.
	So why?
	I thought you meant they had certain chromosomes.
	They do.
	They do.
	So I was like, they're women, but they're not female.
	So they're women, but they're males.
	They're women.
	Trans women are women because if you look at a trans woman, nine times out of ten, she's the baddest bitch you've ever seen.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It took you to be a woman, but if you're going off of.
	Excuse me.
	Look.
	Hey, yo, y'all ain't seen no pretty trans women.
	You just said nine times out of ten that the baddest women are.
	Nine times out of ten, because they have to do more than the regular woman.
	Females are typically the baddest.
	They're bad.
	Like, look, they have to do more to compensate for you guys' doubts.
	Honestly, serious question, though.
	As women, you guys are all women, right?
	How does it make you feel to hear that sort of thing where you say that dudes who dress up as women are the most beautiful women?
	Would you agree with that?
	I would hate that.
	And I hate when they put a man, a transgender man, like they're still a man, and they put them on a fashion magazine and like as a woman.
	Or like they, they.
	Like woman of the year.
	Yeah.
	Like, dude, you're not a woman.
	You're a dude.
	You know?
	Yeah.
	Wait.
	So is everybody here transphobic?
	Not transphobic.
	I just feel like it's insulting to say that a man could be a woman.
	That's like blackface.
	Like you're dressing up as a woman, so now you're a woman all of a sudden.
	Exactly.
	Me and Callie.
	To be honest, though, she's exactly right.
	It's a perfect logical analogy there.
	You women should be offended.
	I just don't subscribe to that.
	But Jake actually made like a really good point.
	Like the comment you said about how trans women are some of the baddest, what was the baddest thing?
	They look the baddest or whatever.
	I'm not saying that, but they just look good.
	But you ladies got to keep a little something for yourself.
	Like you can't give like hottest woman to a trans like men are better than y'all at being hot.
	Come on.
	You can't.
	Not necessarily.
	That's not what I meant when I said that, guys.
	That's not what I meant.
	We men.
	Yo, the patriarchy wins again.
	We men are better at being hot women.
	We're better in everything, bro.
	We're better than you guys at the boxing and the women's Olympics, women's weightlifting, women's beauty contests.
	Yo, guys, W's in the chat.
	For men being better at being hot women than women.
	Just W's in the chat.
	I don't know.
	That's kind of crazy, but okay.
	But like, so how about really quick on this, but I'm a little confused here because you did make a differentiation between gender and sex, right?
	But so I'm, but then I'm asking, like, is a transgender woman female or is she male?
	She's a woman.
	Yeah, but she's a woman.
	I 100% agree with you.
	Is she male or female?
	She's a woman.
	No, you're, no, no, no.
	You're 100% right.
	She's a woman, but is she female or male?
	She would be male legally.
	Legally.
	Right now in this country.
	They change the definition of woman.
	What do you mean?
	Like, since when is it?
	He's granting it for the sake of crazy.
	And then it's like, what do you say about somebody that has both?
	Because there's people with multiple things down there.
	So what do you say?
	You said it's different, female and woman.
	What is a woman and what is a female?
	A woman is someone who takes on the attributes of effemininity and identifies as being a woman.
	So if I wore a dress and wore this wig and some lipstick and I said, I'm a woman, you would believe me?
	No.
	You'd be a man in a wig and a dress on.
	If you were consistent, if you were consistent, that's what you really want to do when you were making the transition.
	But tomorrow, if I came to you and I said, look, like that chat we had last night made me realize a few things about myself and I had the wig on and I said I'm a woman, you would grant me that status.
	I would if you really meant it.
	Yeah, hell yeah.
	How do you know?
	How can you ascertain if I mean it or not?
	We'll see what you do if you're consistent or not.
	Okay, what about this?
	How about if I said to you, if I came to you in tomorrow and then six months later as well, and I've been doing it the whole time, but I said, look, Rebel, truth is, it just really turns me on if I'm dressing like a woman.
	You just sound like a drag queen.
	No, no, no, but if I said that to you, and I said, look, I don't, it's just that it really turns me on to like, someone's going to clip this.
	If I clip it and shirt it.
	Clip it and shirt it.
	Wait, what?
	If I said that to you, and I was like, look, the truth is that that's just how I feel, and it just gets me off.
	It turns you on dressing as a woman.
	That's what it is.
	Yeah.
	Would you say that I'm a woman?
	No, you're a jack.
	You're a drag queen.
	You just want to do this, or you're some type of transvesting.
	Yeah.
	Well, what it's actually called is it's a condition called autogynophilia.
	And it's actually a large, I don't know how much of the portion, but a lot of men who dress up like women, it's because it turns them on.
	What's that movie, Brian, where the guy dresses up like the woman and he's got autogynophilia and he has the person in the hole?
	Hannibal Lecter.
	Oh, I did not know.
	Silence of the lens.
	That's the one.
	He put the lotion in the basket.
	Yeah, so that dude has autogynophilia.
	And he dresses.
	Yeah.
	I've never heard of that.
	There was a case of a guy in Australia, his name's Lee something or other, and he was a football player.
	And then he got caught one night in like the roughest part of Melbourne, dressing like a woman with and he had all this meth on him and stuff.
	He'd been smoking meth for days and came out that like he used to cross-dress for like a sexual fetish.
	And then, like, even after everything, after all of this drama of him being caught with these drugs and doing these weird things, he just came out and goes, you know what, guys, I'm trans.
	And then literally a few months later, he was on the cover of Woman's Weekly, dressed like a woman, and they were like all celebrating him.
	So that's like sort of the that when you when you distort what a woman is like that, and then we're in this conversation, it's kind of the conclusion of it is that if you're going to be tolerant, you kind of have to be tolerant all the way with it.
	There is.
	There is nuances to it.
	I feel like some people take advantage of people's open-mindedness.
	And like, I'm not really trans.
	I just like to dress up and they don't identify correctly.
	But I feel like there is some people that truly feel that they were born in the wrong body and we should make space for them for that.
	You're not gay for being attracted to somebody that presents themselves as feminine.
	You're only gay if you like.
	Do you think that those people need help?
	Dang, you like that?
	Yeah.
	That's a mental illness.
	That's something you need to talk through and think about it.
	I don't know, because me personally, sometimes I wake up feeling I'm the man and I feel like I'm the girl, I'm that bitch too.
	I feel like I'm that nigga, I'm that bitch too.
	And I feel like that too.
	That's me personally being a drogenish and stuff.
	I feel like I'm both sometimes.
	Not saying I don't claim to be non-binary.
	What does it feel like to be a man if you say you feel like a man sometimes?
	It feels dominant.
	It feels like you're in control.
	It feels like you're taking care of the other people around you.
	Like I have just a mom and a sister.
	That's all I have to live with.
	So I have, I, you know, take care of them, make sure they're good.
	Like, you know what I'm saying?
	Provide financially for the people around me.
	It feels, it's indescribable, but I'm describing it.
	Like, well, I think it's interesting because what you're describing right now is definitely a masculine characteristic that would typically be associated with masculine, which is providing for people around you.
	But still, you can be a female and you can be a woman and you can provide for people around you.
	It wouldn't necessarily make you a man.
	So what about what you do makes you a man, though?
	A man.
	Like, so for me personally, I don't identify as non-binary or nothing like that.
	Like, I believe I'm a woman and stuff like that, but I can understand how some people might feel differently and stuff.
	When I was younger, I told my mom I wanted to be a boy.
	I told her that.
	But I didn't know what I was talking about at that time.
	I had to grow into it.
	But now that I'm here now, I can see why something makes you, if you felt like this a whole life, like I've been time-boyish my whole life, and somebody else that's been going through all that, and when they realize, like, actually, I don't like being feminine at all.
	I don't like being on the feminine side of it and I want to become a man.
	It's possible.
	Like, I just feel like it's.
	And when you say that you think that they're transphobic for the beliefs, what exactly do you mean by transphobic?
	Because that term some stumbles, like when people say it like that, it kind of confuses me a little bit.
	What does it mean?
	It just means like you're prejudiced or you don't believe like that's it's the same thing as being homophobic.
	Like you don't believe in somebody's identification.
	Like you don't believe that it's valid.
	That's what it is.
	I believe we're either born male or female and you can't change that.
	Damn.
	You're born like that.
	Genetics.
	When you die, they're not going to be like, oh, I'm pretty sure that he called himself a female.
	Like, no, they're going to look at your bone structure and you are a man if that's what you were born as.
	We're a woman.
	Our bones look different.
	We're genetically different.
	You could actually dig up the bones a thousand years later and you could still tell what they were.
	Yeah, and I completely understand that.
	But this is the point.
	Like, I get that from your perspective, it's coming from a place of tolerance, right?
	Like, you think that people should be able to actualize and they should be able to identify as whatever.
	But do you see how actually, if you take a small segment of the population, like people who would identify as transgender, and you say, all right, everybody else has to be super duper accepting of this, do you get why there's also like that would then have a big impact on a large percentage of the population who A, have to lie about it, and B, women have to get like dominated in sports and women have to accept that like these men in their bathrooms are women.
	And then do you also accept that these people who identify this way oftentimes need therapy or need some sort of help?
	I accept that.
	I feel like everybody needs therapy and there definitely should be stipulations to it.
	You can't just overnight decide that you want to be a woman and be allowed into the woman's bathroom and stuff like that.
	There's nuances to it.
	And then what about the people that have both?
	There's literally somebody, like, I literally was just watching it on the internet the other day.
	A woman that she looks like a woman.
	She has breasts and everything like that, but she has both.
	Like, what do we, what do we call them?
	Like, maphrodite.
	That's very rare.
	It's very rare.
	But also, but also, even in those cases, in the most extreme cases, you still are one or the other.
	You might have a micro-penis, or you might have like a clitoris that looks like a penis, or you might even have both.
	That has happened, but nobody can ever impregnate themselves, right?
	So you either have the reproductive, the reproductive means of a male or a female.
	So you can never have both.
	Everybody got different perspectives, but I sometimes waking up feeling like, I'm that man today.
	I'm the shit.
	I'm that nigga today.
	And you know what I'm saying?
	And I move as such and I dress as such.
	And then the next day I might feel like I'm super feminine.
	It's like, it just depends.
	So I don't identify.
	donated two hundred dollars.
	The notion that a cut up and flipped inside out PP feels just like a real VahaaJ strains incredulity.
	I refuse to collect any first hand data on the phenomenon though, so I'll remain unconvinced.
	Yo, Graffito tag, thank you so much for the TTS man.
	You're fucking legend tonight.
	Thank you so much, dude.
	Guys, W's in the chat for Graffito.
	Like I said, also already, longtime supporter.
	He's a legend.
	He's a here.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	He is a pioneer.
	Yo, thank you so much, man.
	And do really appreciate it.
	I guess not to linger too long on this.
	But again, I mean, I would like you acknowledge that there's a difference between sex and gender.
	Is a transgender woman female or male?
	They're male.
	We're talking male sex.
	If we're talking sex, we're talking sex versus gender.
	So if a male and a male are having sex, how could it ever be straight?
	It's not.
	Because what were you attracted to?
	It's about being gay.
	It's about your attraction.
	Were you attracted to the masculinity?
	Were you attracted to the feminine?
	But I mean, there's masculine, there's masculine straight women.
	Right.
	It's like if you F a girl in an ass, is that gay?
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	It's the same thing.
	If you F a guy with a girl.
	The trans woman has an ass.
	The trans woman has an ass.
	You thought she was a pretty girl.
	Yeah, but if there's a dick there, or even if there's not a dick there, that would be gay.
	No, you can't push that with a son.
	I'm not going to get into the intricacies of how you have sex with a trans woman, but that's what you were attracted to.
	Like, I mean, when you have first seen them, like, you could set your boundaries.
	You'd be like, oh, now that I know you're trans, I'm not going to be with you.
	You can set that boundary.
	But if you originally were, you know what I'm saying?
	And you get into it.
	But you know, but if, yeah, if you, if you, like, they bamboozled you and like looked like a woman, but like whether there's a penis there or not, if you know that they're trans and then you proceed to have sex with them, that would not be straight.
	That would be gay.
	No.
	Yes.
	Unfortunately, homosexuality means being attracted to someone of the same sex.
	It pertains to like sex.
	Like, that's why we say opposite sex or same-sex attraction.
	Homosexuality is same-sex attraction.
	Like, for example, if you saw two males, you don't know their gender identity.
	You saw two males.
	How about this?
	You saw a male who was a male Sing the D of another male.
	You don't know the gender identity.
	And they both, one doesn't like look, isn't like dressing up as a woman, doesn't look trans.
	Like they just look like dudes.
	Like they look like men.
	And you saw him Sing the D of the dude.
	Like would that, do you think that would be gay or straight?
	No, that's gay.
	But whatever.
	Hold on, wait, wait, wait.
	One more question.
	One more question.
	I'll let you, just one more question.
	Would, but then, while the dude who's receiving the BJ, if he's all like, if he says, if he says, oh, hey, hey, over there, Rebel, I identify as a woman.
	Does it then, in the middle of the sex act, does it then become straight?
	Yes.
	But then I'm like, oh, yeah, it do.
	To me, it does.
	But okay, what if, okay, you got a trans woman.
	What if they go all the way with the surgery and get their thing cut off and they get a pussy?
	No, listen, no, listen.
	I answered that question.
	I answered them.
	Now, let me answer my question.
	If it was a trans woman and they already and they got a coochie right in and you couldn't even say, is that gay or not?
	Because there's no dick there.
	W Callie in the chat over here.
	It's like saying you voted for translation.
	Is a fleshlight?
	I didn't know you were a Trump voter until now.
	W. Kelly in the chat for voting for Trump.
	Actually, like, guys, she told me this before the show.
	She's like, you know how there's like the blacks for Trump?
	She actually organized that.
	She achieved that.
	It's giving that with all this transphobia here.
	It's giving that.
	She gave me this hat, bro.
	Look at that.
	She gave me this hat.
	No, we appreciate that shit.
	Why do you have to do that?
	We appreciate that shit, the hat.
	We appreciate that.
	Wait, whatever.
	I do.
	Wait, so what's going on back there?
	What's going on back there?
	No.
	No comment.
	You're waiting to wash your hands?
	Yeah, no comment.
	I mean, you've been back there for like 15, 20 minutes or something.
	Are you guys coming back to the table or?
	Yeah, she's going to go wash her hands now, and then she's going to come back and play the 50.
	Even though she was back there, just whatever.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You said if it's coochie, you're like, is a flashlight coochie?
	It's still valid.
	Like, it's like saying, like, you know what I'm saying?
	It's still valid.
	A coochie is a coochie.
	Right.
	Right?
	A flashlight is not a coochie.
	A flashlight is a flashlight.
	And if anybody ever says, man, I got some coochie last night.
	I'm like, okay, like, tell me about it.
	He's like, yeah, just grab that flashlight.
	I'd be like, brother, that's.
	Pocket posing.
	Yeah.
	That's not it.
	Have you seen Blue Mountain State?
	There's a great episode.
	Look.
	Trans women is one of those.
	All right, we're going to get into our next thing here.
	So we have Rebel.
	The statement is possible to be sexist towards men.
	You disagree.
	Let's see.
	And then we have no comment over here, disagrees.
	But she's not here at the table.
	So why don't we start with Rebel, I guess?
	Why do you think it is impossible or not possible to be sexist towards men?
	Oppressor and oppressant.
	That's it.
	There you go.
	Oppressor and oppressant.
	Okay, so men.
	So you think that basically, if somebody is going to be oppressive towards somebody and sexism would be oppressive, you think that there has to be a power dynamic there?
	Yeah, it's the power dynamic.
	Right, okay.
	So just say hypothetically, there was a land in which it was just run by women, right?
	It's a full-on matriarchy, Amazonia, just women, right?
	And then a man comes in and they are all whipping him and throwing dirty rotten tomatoes at him and making him walk through the middle of the street and they're all saying shame and they're saying, we're doing this because you're a man and for no other reason.
	Would that be sexist?
	Yes, in the hypothetical world that you're made of.
	So it is possible to be sexist towards men?
	I mean, it is possible.
	I don't think anything's possible.
	It's possible to fly in a hypothetical situation.
	I have a different hypothetical that might possibly have become more realistic.
	Let's say Kamala Harris, did you vote for Kamala?
	Team Harris, period.
	So let's say Kamala Harris.
	Let's say Kamala Harris.
	It was cheated, by the way.
	She lost her.
	Let's say Kamala Harris became president.
	Would you agree that the president of the United States is possibly the most powerful person in the world?
	Okay, yeah, I guess not really, but yeah, sure.
	For your argument, I'll give you that.
	Okay.
	So let's say Kamala Harris, she did not want to hire a man for, he was applying to be janitor of the White House.
	And she didn't want to hire him because he was a man.
	She discriminated against him because he was a man.
	And she wanted to hire a female janitor.
	Do you think that in this instance that would be sexist?
	No, only because she probably had to experience.
	You know how hard it is for her to become president?
	didn't even become president.
	So it's like for her to even get there, for her to even get there, she was oppressed to like, and she's a black woman.
	So this is like, she can't.
	So hold on.
	Okay.
	So she's a dad or something.
	There's no black.
	But yeah, anyways.
	She's colored, whatever.
	And she got a black.
	I thought she's part black.
	She's black.
	She got a black dad, right?
	Nope.
	Candice Owens did the whole thing.
	I don't know what she's doing.
	It's not material to the conversation.
	So, okay.
	So, Kamala Harris, just can you define your, like, what is your definition of sexism?
	It's discrimination on a gender from a position of power.
	Power.
	So, like, I've heard this definition of racism.
	Tell me if you agree with it.
	So, racism equals prejudice plus power.
	Is that your definition of racism?
	Yeah.
	And so, with a similar definition of sexism, prejudice, I mean, sexism, prejudice plus power.
	And your position is that women don't have power, men do have the power.
	Therefore, maybe you can be bigoted or discriminate towards men, but you can't be sexist towards men.
	Is that fair?
	And the same would apply between white and black dynamics.
	Like, black people can't be racist towards white people because white people have the power in the society, black people don't.
	And so, because there's no prejudice plus power, there might be prejudice, but there's no power.
	Black people can't be racist towards white people.
	Is that a fair characterization?
	Yep.
	Okay, so just going back to the sexist thing, though, I think I've actually met your own definition, though.
	I don't agree with your definition of sexism equals prejudice plus power.
	But I've, in the example I gave, I actually met your definition.
	So, Kamala Harris has power and she's prejudiced towards a man.
	She has more power than that specific man.
	She has more power than, in fact, 99.99% of men in the country.
	She also has systemic power, too, if we want to take it a step further, because she's the leader of the executive branch of the United States government, which one, the United States of America is the most powerful country in the world.
	The executive branch is arguably the most powerful branch of the government.
	I mean, we could have debates over that, kind of not material, though.
	And then she's the leader of it.
	So, she has power, she has prejudice, and she has systemic power.
	I feel like it would be sexism if the majority of Congress were women, if majority of the people in power were women, not just her president.
	No, but she's she's the president, she's the president, she has power, right?
	She has prejudice, she doesn't want to hire the male White House janitor because he's male.
	She wants to hire a female janitor.
	How about this?
	If Donald Trump didn't want to hire a woman because she's a woman, would that be sexist?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So I'm using your own definition.
	I understand.
	No, I get it.
	I just think it's just, it comes down to the history and how many there's majority men in office right now.
	Yeah, but like, just because we throw we're talking about Kamala Harris.
	Yeah, I'm talking on the individual level.
	Like, how could she, like, who cares about all that other stuff?
	She has power.
	She has systemic power.
	She has prejudice.
	I'm meeting your definition.
	Can you add to the definition to make it not sexist then?
	It's prejudice.
	Like, it's another word for it.
	Like, it's not, instead of sexist, it's something else.
	It's prejudice.
	It's like the same thing.
	Racist, it's prejudice.
	Like, I don't know.
	Because it's like, if I say that women can be sexist to men, then I can say that black people can be racist to white people.
	And I don't agree with that.
	Well, we can get into that.
	You know what I'm saying?
	That's why I can't say, yeah, that's sexist because then I would be agreeing to other.
	I guess here's the problem we're encountering.
	You gave me a definition.
	I repeated the definition back to you.
	You agreed with the definition.
	I met all the criteria for your own definition.
	You're either going to have to concede that it is sexism or you need to change your definition again.
	Yeah, I might have to change my definition.
	Okay, let's hear the new definition then.
	Let me...
	Y'all took my phone.
	Let me look at the definition.
	I mean, my definition of sexism is prejudice and power.
	But it's discrimination.
	Yeah, that's my definition.
	But how can if I meet all the criteria for your definition, how would it not be sexist?
	Because, like I said, it's one woman.
	Like, you can't, the power, women don't have more power over men in general.
	So you can't even say that.
	But you don't think sexism, so there's like systemic sexism, but you don't think sexism exists on like an individual level?
	For example, if a white person calls a black person the N-word, like we would agree that that's racist, right?
	Yes.
	Right, but that's on an individual level, right?
	So like if the most powerful woman in the country, if she did when the individually.
	Yeah, I mean.
	I guess you could say vaguely, like just before we get to the racist thing, I do need to get to her because she also disagreed.
	So the statement is possible to be sexist towards men.
	You disagree with that.
	why?
	I honestly did not understand the question.
	Okay, so tell me what your understanding of it was.
	I didn't understand it.
	If you can explain it to me, please.
	Do you think it's possible to be sexist towards men?
	Yes. Okay. Okay.
	Okay.
	Not me personally, but right, maybe you don't have any sexist, you're not sexist towards men, but is it possible a woman or even yourself could be sexist towards men?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And well, why don't we go into the next thing then?
	Possible to be racist towards white people, rebel, you disagree.
	Can I give you a hypothetical?
	Yes, go ahead.
	Wait, before you put your analogies, you'd be asking.
	And you said the statement is possible to be racist towards white people.
	You disagree.
	Possible to be racist towards white people.
	Yeah, do you agree or disagree?
	I agree.
	A lot of people are racist.
	So you can be racist to white people?
	Not me personally, but I've experienced it in a social setting.
	You indicated here, though, that you disagreed.
	I honestly did not understand those questions.
	You didn't understand the question.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, then it's just for Rebel then.
	I don't think anybody else.
	Yeah, I feel like even if we're talking about it now, I feel like the power gap between men and women are smaller than the power gap between black people and white people.
	Now, I feel like maybe back in the day.
	In like a another hypothetical situation.
	Say there was a country in Africa, for example, and they had an all-black government.
	The country was completely run by black people.
	And then, for example, say that there was a bunch of like farmers who are white, and the all-black government was systemically kicking out all of those farmers out of the country.
	And in many cases, people were killing them.
	Would that be racist?
	In your hypothetical situation, yes.
	Well, what if I told you that's exactly what's happened in South Africa right now?
	This is in South Africa right now.
	They're kicking out white people.
	Kicking out all the white farmers, killing them in many cases.
	they came and snatched us from over there sir first so it's kind of like but these farmers didn't snatch anybody These are just farmers who are farming their land and they're being systemically kicked out and their land is actually being what's it called?
	X appropriated, but ex. I'm having a mental blank.
	But their land is basically being forcefully taken by the government because they're white.
	Is that racist?
	Come on.
	Is it because they're white?
	It's because they're white.
	It's not having any black sands being redistributed back to black people.
	No, I feel like we're looking out for us in that situation.
	Like, I'm not going to lie.
	Because just the history of Africa by itself, like, they're not even meant to be there.
	They're going to get sunburnt.
	We're really helping them out.
	If we really be honest, that we're kicking them.
	They need to go to Iceland or somewhere they can thrive better.
	So you say that it's completely appropriate for the old black government to be expropriating, I think that's the word, the land of these white farmers that they've been farming for generations and generations.
	And you think that because they're looking out for themselves, then that's an okay thing to do?
	It's not okay.
	It's not okay.
	I'm not going to sit up here.
	I like that's okay.
	Would you say that because of like the heavy race factor?
	Actually, the same thing happened in Rhodesia, which is now Zimbabwe.
	Do you think that it's racist?
	Could that fall into the category of racist?
	I wouldn't even, prejudice, prejudice.
	I give prejudice.
	Like, you could say bias.
	You could say discriminatory.
	So what exactly is the difference between that?
	And let's talk about the Atlantic slave trade, for example.
	The Americans came over and they were taking slaves from Africa, right?
	They were buying slaves from Africa, but they were just looking out for themselves.
	And actually, they were giving the slaves a better life because now their ancestors are all in America.
	Right.
	So would you say that the same logic could apply?
	I can't even say that because colorism runs so deep in the world.
	It's just like if white skin was seen as what's the opposite of superior?
	Inferior.
	Inferior to us, then I could say like, yeah, that's racism.
	But in general speaking, white skin holds more power.
	So just that one little instance of prejudice is, that doesn't mean that we can be racist towards white people.
	But what about just specifically with the example we're talking about here with South Africa?
	And that's a material example.
	It's not even a hypothetical.
	That's wrong, and it's prejudice.
	It's wrong 100%.
	But if it meets your exact definition of power of racism, because in South Africa, they have the ANC, the African National Congress, which is in charge of the country, and they actually have big festivals and rallies where they're chanting, kill the Bua.
	The Bua is the white farmer.
	And they're saying, kill the white farmer, kill the white farmer.
	Could that possibly be seen as a little bit racist?
	They're saying, kill the white farmer.
	I think I'm biased on this situation.
	I thought it was illegal to be black in South Africa for a very long time.
	It wasn't illegal to be black, but there was segregation.
	To deal with white people and all of that, to have an interracial child, that was illegal.
	But would you say that that's racist?
	I don't know if it's race.
	It's just getbag.
	It's not racist.
	But was the apartheid that you're talking about?
	Was that racist?
	It was.
	Okay, so then would you apply the same standard to what's happening now?
	It is racist.
	It is.
	Yep.
	So you think it's possible for black people to be racist to white people?
	It is possible.
	How about this rebel?
	Like, slavery is obviously where this sort of conversation stems from, right?
	Right.
	Say, for example, if there was lots of black people that hundreds of years ago were enslaving lots of white people, would that be racist?
	Yeah.
	What if I told you that that actually did happen?
	There was a Barbary slave trade, which is Northern Africans that were taking Europeans and over a million of them and enslaving them.
	Every colored people were slaves at one point.
	But it's just talking about the systemic ways that it is now.
	It's not favored towards black people.
	That's the only difference.
	That's the thing.
	Everybody's been slaves.
	And last question.
	Just say, for example, Africa had an economic boom, just like China and India had over the last sort of 20 years or so.
	Say globalism hits Africa.
	They start manufacturing at a massive rate.
	China is investing in them.
	China is building all of this infrastructure within Africa.
	And then all of a sudden, you look into the future 30 years and Africa and African countries have the highest GDP from any continent.
	And then, but if that did happen, then would you say that that would then, and then the Africans were doing what they're doing to white people in their countries?
	Would it then be racist?
	If things would change to that point where we had that much power, yeah, then it can flip and we could be the racist ones.
	Yeah.
	And this type of, if the power dynamics were to flip, yes.
	But it's like everyone was slaves, but not everyone was oppressed for hundreds and hundreds of years.
	Not everyone was getting ate and turned into chairs and babies getting buried into the ground and getting their head kicked off.
	Like not every race had that happening to them.
	Actually, did it happen pretty much throughout human history?
	Basically, until Christian European civilization came about, the world, the entire world, was just a series of tribal warfare.
	And people were just killing each other.
	They were taking war brides.
	They were killing each other in brutal ways.
	They would go into the place, they'd kill all of the men, keep the women for brides, kill all the children.
	Because if they didn't kill the children, then the children would one day come for retribution.
	So that was pretty much the story of the world.
	Even in the Bible, you've got sort of battles like this taking place.
	So the way that I view it is that human history is just a series of brutal, brutal warfare where everybody suffered.
	And then Christian European civilization happened, which is, you know, after Jesus Christ and how Christianity spread throughout Europe and throughout the world.
	And then this is where modern, the sort of modern morals and modern human rights come from.
	Is the Christian Christian?
	Are you a Christian?
	I was raised Christian, but I definitely am like just more spiritual now.
	I wouldn't say that.
	And would you agree that it was actually the Christian countries that abolished slavery?
	I guess, yes.
	It was the English William Wilberforce sailing the seas, trying to get all of the slave ships.
	And then it was the Americans who abolished slavery.
	But still nowadays, today, there's more slavery in the world than there has ever been in human history.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	All through the Middle East.
	They use Christianity to enslave people as well, too.
	Well, the Christian countries are actually pretty much exclusively the only ones that don't have slavery.
	Right now.
	Yeah.
	Right now.
	But I mean, that's the evilness of Christianity.
	They used it as a way to control slaves too back then, too.
	So it's like that argument of Christianity being like.
	But could you also make the argument, though, that if you look at the white world, which is basically Europe, and then America, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand, basically, these are pretty much the only places in the world that don't.
	They've got a lot of sex slavery that happens in those countries, so that still happens.
	But by and large, these are the countries that don't really have too much slavery.
	Could you then make the argument that because there's so many black people still enslaving black people in Africa, that the oppression is actually coming from black people now.
	And even during the Atlantic slave trade.
	What?
	Even during the Atlantic slave trade.
	Pushing it, Jake.
	Do you know how do you think?
	How do you think that the white people from America got slaves?
	I know.
	I know that they gave them to them, but there was also guns involved and stuff, too.
	Like, I know they came and snatched some people, and I know they gave promises.
	Yeah, what do you mean?
	There were some trade promises.
	There were a lot of things that were said, like there was going to be a better life for them and all types of shit.
	A lot of people got on those boats thinking that they were going to go somewhere and be taken care of and things were going to be better.
	They didn't necessarily go because they were like, oh, we're going to get whipped and we're going to go help you guys pick some cotton.
	That wasn't why they fucking got on the boat.
	And we all know that.
	The reason why they got on the boat was not by choice.
	They didn't willingfully get on the boat.
	The reason why they got on the boat was because they were sold by other Africans.
	Africans would sell them into the slave trade.
	So they would have a slave market.
	The Europeans would come over and they would buy slaves from the Africans.
	That's how it would work.
	So do you think that it kind of dilutes the race argument a little bit that it's like just white people being oppressive?
	It was actually black people selling other black people.
	It doesn't dilute at all.
	Why would you come and buy slaves?
	Before you guys made the argument, when we were talking about men and war, you guys made the argument that, but it's other men who are creating these wars.
	So if it's other black people who are selling other black people into slavery, wouldn't that be the same logic?
	That's not necessarily the same logic.
	I feel like black people were also stolen and taken.
	And like you said, a lied to.
	I feel like we were, they were, and then some people were taken with guns.
	Back then, Africans, we had spears and shit.
	You know what I'm saying?
	And there were cases of white people coming in with this heavy artillery and taking our people.
	So it's just like, and then like, who kept us?
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, if I sell a puppy to you and you beat that puppy, who oppressed that puppy?
	Was it me selling it to you?
	I didn't know you was going to do all that to them.
	So you think the people who captured all of the slaves and then put them into a slave market is like selling a puppy?
	I'm just saying, like, if I sold, you know what I'm saying?
	If I sold a puppy to you and you decided to abuse it, I didn't impress that puppy.
	You pressed the puppy.
	But, you know what I'm saying?
	I could say I was wrong for selling it to you, but I can't say that I oppressed that puppy because you decided to.
	Do you think it's okay to sell other human beings?
	No.
	No.
	I don't think it's okay to buy human beings either or go ask for some.
	That's weird.
	Yeah.
	But, you know what I'm saying?
	Nobody, I'm not saying that black people are right in all types of ways, but I don't think that we're the oppressors because we sold our people.
	We could sell.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Do you think do you look at Arab people in the same light that you look at white people?
	I heard people like black people.
	Do I look at black people in the same light?
	Do you look at Arab people in the same light?
	Arab?
	Because you look at white people as oppressive.
	Do you look at Arabs the same way that you look at white people?
	No.
	No.
	What do you mean, like, Airs?
	Like, as far as equality, or like, do I see them as oppressors?
	Arabs, yeah.
	Arabs?
	Do I see them as oppressors?
	No, I don't.
	What if I was to tell you that the Arab slave trade throughout the Middle East was by far and away bigger than the white slave trade?
	And also, that's still happening today.
	To a community, you can't say it was like far bigger because, regardless, programming, our people still went through that.
	So you can't compare it to something that we know nothing about.
	We know about what happened to our people.
	That's all we give the fuck about.
	But who are your people?
	Black people.
	So black people were enslaved at a much larger rate by Arab people, and it's still happening.
	Like, you've got a lot of slavery still happening in Africa today.
	You've got, if you, if, and, you know, all these little Tesla batteries and the electric cars you guys are driving, most definitely.
	Yeah.
	I mean, so are you guys, though.
	You have to be culpable in that if you want to talk about people buying cars.
	There are black people who own Teslas, too.
	Okay.
	I didn't say that there aren't.
	Yeah.
	So I never said there aren't.
	So you're saying.
	So then you're saying that you're culpable in slavery?
	No, I don't have an electric car.
	Okay, but like black people are.
	There are black people who have electric cars.
	So do I, I'm the voice for all black people?
	No, I'm saying, but you're guys are all wrong.
	But you, but you said before that slavery is them, you know, building batteries and making electric cars.
	If there are black people who have batteries and electric cars, then they would be oppressors, right?
	They're absolutely helping in the problem.
	Okay.
	You're absolutely a part of the problem.
	You disagree with that.
	I'm confused.
	So you're saying because slavery was us making batteries and stuff.
	No, no, no.
	At this moment, to make all these batteries for these electric cars, they're getting all that material from Africa.
	Our people are in sweatshops, kids.
	No.
	They're in fields picking this shit out.
	Right.
	Dying.
	They're in mines.
	They're in cobalt mines and places like this.
	Oh, we're definitely complicit in our own oppression.
	I feel like women are too, in some type of ways.
	I feel like we allow a lot of things.
	And like you said, equality, like we have to own up to.
	If we want equality on certain things, we have to step up in other ways.
	I feel like that's the same thing with black people.
	I feel like we don't hold each other accountable as much.
	But that goes for every oppressed group.
	I just think that in terms of the Arab and white argument, there's a specific narrative that's painted that white people are somehow like specially bad in this regard.
	Whereas actually, the white Christian world is other people who abolish slavery, the only ones that abolish slavery.
	Well, you know, with the textbooks changing so much, how can we even cape up?
	Because literally history is rewritten every few years.
	We abolished slavery, but did we really?
	did we really I mean that's a you can we can get into that point like damn Do we still have slavery today?
	And I think that there is...
	Because then we...
	Slave masters, they rounded up the slaves.
	Then we changed them to police officers.
	Now we got state patrol.
	Now we're locking up and black people are locked up at a higher rate.
	And we're putting them in prison.
	I think that that's the only good argument that there actually is here, especially in terms of modern slavery, that by the definition of slavery, which is basically just taking somebody and making them do forced labor against their consent, against their will, the amount of people that are incarcerated today, it technically falls under the definition of slavery, except for the fact that they committed crimes.
	So that's another interesting conversation to have.
	But historically, there is, if you wanted to look at it from damage done, the Arab slave trade was far, far, far worse for black people than the white slave trade.
	No, this is just a historical fact.
	And then we got a difference between Africans and black.
	Do you disagree that there's still African people enslaved in the Middle East today?
	I don't know.
	You don't know?
	God never.
	Do you want a final thought though?
	That was a good enough conversation.
	All right, we have a super chat here from John.
	Hey, John, thank you.
	Good to see you back in the chat.
	Rebel had to be the one to read my comment.
	Hilarious.
	Thank you.
	While there was no disrespect or insult, yet she read it with disrespect and disdain.
	Not even hating me, but hating Jesus Christ and the truth.
	Excuse me.
	Reconsider or be without excuse.
	JC is Lord.
	You did have a little disrespectful comment.
	First of all, you're saying we believe in a lie.
	So you're kind of like trying to say we're stupid.
	And then two, you're saying that women will never be equal to men.
	I find that to be offensive.
	So that's why I read it like that.
	Like you literally said that.
	Do you find it to be false, though?
	Like, wouldn't we say equal?
	Are we talking about physically equal?
	No, I can't beat you with no arm wrestle right now.
	But that don't mean that.
	mean but do you think that what you what you're what you're actually alluding to there what you're alluding to there is the fact that i mean i work out but like yeah here double buy show us a double You know what I'm saying?
	But like, let's be real.
	What do we mean by equality?
	But what you're alluding to there that you couldn't beat us in an arm wrestle is that men have basically a monopoly on force, which means that women can never actually enforce their own rights.
	So when you talk about equal, it's actually egalitarianism is impossible because women could never actually have a monopoly on force.
	Men will always have that.
	I feel like we could get some weapons out and get it done.
	No, but I just, because it's more of us than it is of y'all.
	If we think it's more women than it is men.
	Doesn't matter.
	I mean, guns are force equalizers to some degree, but there are differences when it comes to like, you know, the type of guns that you can field, like, you know, carrying it for long distances.
	And then in the event of like some hand-to-hand combat situations.
	Well, you can argue black people are stronger than white people, but white people still scooped us up.
	So I mean, men are stronger than women, but I feel like women, we all came together because I also smarter than me.
	So, you know, is having guns.
	And if you have guns, we also have guns, and we're stronger and can handle the guns better.
	So there's still a massive disadvantage for you guys.
	Yeah, I guess, but like equality, are we just saying in society or are we talking physically?
	So you're saying because we're not physically stronger than y'all, we'll never be equal to you.
	Yeah, I think you can be equal in value as a human being.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	I think that every human being is of equal value intrinsically.
	We all have a soul.
	But in terms of force and in terms of being able to, you know, actually exercise force, women just cannot ever be equal.
	It's impossible.
	We have a super chat here from Jason Cassell.
	He says, Rebel, just admit you are a POS.
	Oh, damn.
	Okay.
	Europeans didn't invade Africa and take slaves.
	The slaves were slaves to other black people that were sold to slave merchants.
	I'm familiar with that.
	Because, well, because I don't think that we can be racist to white people, like you're a piece of shit because you're racist.
	Like, we could go back and forth about this all day.
	Okay.
	The slaves were slaves to other black people.
	So, okay.
	Like, two rounds will make it right.
	Just because like I have a puppy.
	If I have my puppy and I give it to you and you fuck that puppy up, that don't mean nothing.
	We do have another one from Jason.
	He has a follow-up.
	The first recorded slave owner in the colonies was a black man.
	You are not oppressed.
	You are not being attacked.
	Stop acting like a victim.
	Read a book.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	We're not seasoning.
	Black people not oppressed.
	Like, I could really just a moment of silence for all our fallen brothers and sisters that got killed at the hand of police brutality and just like day-to-day racism.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, we can.
	Moment, moment for all of my white brothers and sisters that got killed at the hands of black people in street violence.
	Before it's next, I ain't gonna lie.
	Jason can't.
	Because I'm gonna start acting like her in a minute.
	I'm gonna start like, oh, girl, that got kicked out.
	Hey, you guys want to hear a joke to line the mood a little bit?
	So I, I don't know if it's gonna help at all.
	I'm technically, technically, technically African-American.
	Okay.
	Hold, wait, wait, wait, just hold it.
	Just hear me out.
	Hold on.
	Callie, give me a little bit.
	Show me some fruit.
	Give me a minute.
	I want you to be able to get away from it.
	I was going to say whipout.
	No, it's average.
	I don't believe it.
	It doesn't work out.
	Yeah, shoot.
	But, okay.
	My dad was born in North Africa.
	Okay.
	And my mom was born in America.
	So hold on.
	Is he black?
	Just give me a sec.
	Give me a sec.
	So because my dad was born in Africa and because my mom was born in America, on the technicality, I know I'm not black.
	I'm too pale to be black.
	But technically, I'm African-American.
	Because I agree.
	Look, my dad was born in Africa.
	I'm not like black African-American.
	I'm technically African-American.
	No, you disagree?
	No.
	Oh, you're on the boat?
	On the boat?
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	I did not mean that.
	I mean, like, you know what I mean?
	I meant like you're on the you're on the on the same page.
	I don't know.
	So when your dad's African American.
	That's what you're trying to tell us.
	No, I'm just trying to say.
	Like, no, I'm still white.
	My dad was born in Africa.
	My mom was born in America.
	Technically.
	You're still white.
	No, I'm not 100%.
	Yeah, 100%.
	But there's South Africans that are white.
	Yeah, it's white Africans.
	It's white Africans.
	They're white Africans.
	That's the only reason why I give it to you.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Oh, look.
	It's okay.
	Jason has another.
	Oh, my God.
	Jason in the chat.
	Hey, dummy, check the stats.
	Pull the stats up.
	Let's see who's more oppressed.
	We could pull the stats up between people.
	Do you want to pull the stats up on black people?
	Who's more incarcerated?
	Like, we can go into red lining.
	We could go into all types of like are y'all series and it's black history month.
	Are you a series?
	Y'all trying to like argue who's more than a history of the marriage?
	No, that's my favorite.
	Is that February?
	It's Black History Month.
	It's MLK Day.
	Is it coming up where it just passed?
	When is White History Month?
	11 months out of the 4th of July.
	We need white African American month.
	Okay.
	Because I really appreciate it.
	Look, I'm just saying, I don't feel like us white African Americans get enough representation.
	You're absolutely right.
	You know?
	With that being said, can we talk about reparations too?
	Okay.
	No, no, no, no.
	It's not about race.
	Is anybody here left-handed?
	You're lefty?
	Oh, get out.
	Ambidextrous.
	That's privilege.
	As a left-handed person, I have suffered.
	I've been disadvantaged in life.
	Scissors, doors, desks, getting all that smudge when I'm like, because you know, if I'm if I'm writing, like you go across the whatever you wrote.
	Oh.
	I go home.
	I go home.
	I have to use extra soap.
	I use extra soap to get that shit off after class every day.
	Okay.
	Every day.
	And you know what?
	It's probably all that plastic in there.
	You're right.
	You know what?
	Just that part of me, I was, you know.
	Okay.
	Just that, just this part.
	Just that part right there.
	And I do think also people who have poor vision should also get reparations.
	Because we, like, every year we got to spend like an extra 100, 200 bucks on like contacts and glasses.
	Like I'm trying to get his reparations.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Okay, good talk.
	We have Jason Cassell, about 13% of the population, more than 50% of crime.
	That's why more blacks are incarcerated.
	Uh-oh, Jason, pump the brakes there.
	You're going to get it.
	Or maybe black, or maybe police just hang out in more black places.
	Maybe, because in the suburbs, it's not that many police officers there.
	And I feel like if it's a black person and a white person driving on a road, there's going to be more likely the black person is going to get pulled over.
	Just final thought on that, though.
	Right.
	There is a discrepancy here.
	So, you know, how like we were talking about like sexism?
	Like, do you think the higher incidence rate, at least like you're saying that there's a higher incidence rate of like police killings, police brutality, police misconduct when it comes to like to black people?
	Is that that's like your position?
	Yes.
	And this is like evidence of racism.
	Yeah.
	Now, there's a really interesting other discrepancy we can look at.
	So if you look at the discrepancy that exists between white people and black people, right?
	There's, I think it's a five-time larger discrepancy in policing if you look at between men and women.
	So police murders, police murders, police brutality, police misconduct.
	The rate between men and women is five times greater between the rate between black and white.
	Would you think this is like evidence of sexism?
	No.
	I mean, because he said that 50% of crime is committed by black people.
	So I guess you could say more crime is committed by men.
	And that's why they get pulled over.
	If I can argue, make that same argument.
	Okay, Jason Cassell, he says, yeah, that's where the crime is dummy.
	Okay, Jason Cassell, deep pockets.
	And also, if you look at the analyving rates of who analyzes who more, black people are much more likely to analyze white people.
	yeah and white people are more likely to walk into school with guns like it's like but are we gonna deny like I just even think about Rodney King.
	The man was unarmed.
	They beat him mercilessly and they still got away with it on camera.
	I haven't seen too many instances.
	I haven't seen too many instances, maybe they just don't post them, of white people being unarmed or not doing anything wrong and getting treated terribly by police.
	Like, maybe they just don't post it.
	For the sake of time, I do have to move things on.
	Okay, okay, okay, okay.
	But men are the primary victims of war, Roxanna, you disagree with that statement.
	Why is that?
	Because there are children who are being bombed and women as well.
	So it's actually everybody suffers during war.
	Yeah, I agree with you.
	Everybody suffers.
	But I mean, if we're looking at like primary victim, right?
	So, for example, would you agree with me that like, if a woman is I mean, I this is the only, I guess the only example I'll bring you here if a woman gets essayed like her immediate family and maybe her boyfriend or wife, like that would be traumatic for them too right, but I think we would all agree that the woman is the primary victim in that case, even if it's traumatic for her family to like know that someone they love about went, like had that happen to them, of course,
	so you wouldn't say that they're also the primary victim right, they could be victims in terms of like wow, that's really traumatic and you love this person, and that's hurtful, but we would always say that the woman is the primary victim, correct?
	Yes okay, but so do you want to do you still think that?
	Because, like in war yes, some women, there's bombings and sometimes it hits civilians, but when it comes to the military force, predominated by men, combat rules, even more predominated by men, and then those are the people who are gonna die.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	However um, there are different levels to that.
	Like, for instance, there's uh, a person uh, a man soldier, who is on the floor and on combat like hand-to-hand combat?
	Right, of course they're.
	They're the um, they're the victim.
	You know they're gonna be um, right up front with violence and all that.
	But however, what about, like somebody flying a plane and just pressing a button, who's who's suffering?
	Who's gonna be suffering from that attack?
	You mean it's gonna be so like a thousand men?
	Well, I mean typically, I think there's certain uh rules of engagement, uh laws as it pertains to war.
	Are there civilian casualties, are mistakes made or sometimes even it's intentionally done, and that's like against, I think, the Geneva Convention, but like sometimes, you know, a bomb misses, mortar misses whatever um, but most of the targets that are gonna, you know, from from bombs dropped from airplanes, are gonna be military targets and those targets are gonna be predominantly men.
	So, yeah, some women die.
	Some women, civilians, die, some children, civilians die.
	Even some male civilians die because not all men end up going to war.
	But I think you would still, like, let's say there's, when it comes to bombings, right?
	Let's say when it comes to bombings, 95% of them are all military targets.
	And this is like almost 100% men.
	And then the 5% of like military bombings that end up hitting a building either incorrectly or it's just like, you know, they're intentionally actually going after the civilians.
	I think you would still have to come to the conclusion that if 95% of those casualties from bombing are men, I think that's still the primary victim of war just because such a discrepancy in terms of the total numbers of casualties.
	Sure.
	When you put it that way, yes, I agree.
	But there is always, I think there's always a chance that, you know, other, you know, children, women, men, civilians are going to also get hurt.
	Yeah, I agree.
	But like, how about this?
	What about this example?
	So, like, let's say there's a war where 10 million men die in the military, and then you have a million women who are civilians who die, and then you have a million children who would be both like 50-50 boy-girls, something like that.
	Then you have a million children who die, and then you have like 350,000 male civilians who die.
	If you have to total up the entire amount, like who do you think is the primary victim of war in the scenario I just gave?
	Of course, the soldiers, the men.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I don't really have anything else on that.
	We have, let's see, let me just see if there's anything for 15 or no.
	Oh, okay.
	So let's go to 12.
	Women are not oppressed in the United States.
	Rebel, you disagree.
	Wait, I said, not oppressed?
	So the statement is: women are not oppressed in the USA.
	And I just say that.
	You disagree with the statement.
	So you think women are oppressed in the United States.
	You also circled that too.
	So your position is women are oppressed in the United States.
	Is that correct?
	Can you define oppressed?
	Yeah, like harsh, unjust, or unfair treatment typically at the hands of the state or the government.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And then you said yes.
	I don't know if it's the state or the government, but I definitely feel like it's social.
	I feel like the way, I think it's just too many double standards when it comes to women.
	Like, I just feel like the fact that when we have a higher body count, we're considered hoes and all this stuff.
	And then I think a guy could be a hoe.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think it's just more of a you know what I'm saying?
	I think it's just like the fact like when a man smashes, he got some.
	But when a woman smashes, she gave it up.
	I disagree.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It's the little nuance is there.
	Like, it's just, ugh, it makes me sick to my stomach.
	Like, it's just like too many double standards.
	That's the only reason.
	Like, I don't know.
	I feel like with sex, like, I only get to come once, but like, some of these chicks be coming like 20 times.
	I think that's unfair.
	Most of them don't come at all.
	I mean, some of these girls, I'm telling you.
	Right, right.
	You know.
	Oh, no.
	You've been with.
	Have you ever been with like a woman who just like it's crazy, son?
	You know what I'm talking about?
	Like, she's coming like 20 times and shit.
	Fucking legs twitching like crazy, son.
	It's 30.
	30.
	I just discovered, yeah.
	Don't get tipsy.
	Now, yeah, you know, you're right.
	Okay.
	But I guess I was more so looking at like, I know there's social factors that can feel unfair, but more so like when it comes to oppression, I'm thinking of like something like okay, yeah, I will say yes.
	Just because Trump, you got that hat over there.
	Trump is making it.
	So maybe if Kamala was president, it wouldn't be so.
	And we would be moving towards a progressive.
	With this whole, oh, we're gonna choose what you do with your body.
	That simple.
	The abortion laws, period, just shows that we're oppressed.
	Like, many of you.
	Do you think that Trump is super right-wing when it comes to abortion?
	Hell yeah.
	Do you know what his policy is?
	Then he's like, is it?
	Oh, you leave it up to the state.
	That was his policy, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I know.
	But it's just really his conservative cabinet.
	His conservatives' cabinet is saying that we shouldn't allow women to make their own choice.
	He said he does have, he does have conservatives in the cabinet who are pro-life, but actually, Trump's position is as centrist as it gets because you guys are a constitutional republic, which means you generally are meant to leave the power up to the states.
	You've done so less and less as your country's evolved, but you're meant to leave the power up to the states, right?
	So what Trump's done there is...
	That's crazy.
	Is this a debate?
	I talk about politics and I talk about culture.
	Jake, is it a debate or it's a podcast where we talk about different controversial issues, and sometimes it goes into a debate.
	Why do you ask?
	Genuine question.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But you've been a really good sport all night, I will say.
	Yeah, I forgot.
	You're not even from here.
	I talked about it.
	I forgot.
	Yeah, I was like, wait, but nah, it's just like with your answer is like abortion.
	That's right.
	I'm not saying abortion is right or wrong, but it's just the choice that our government even has, or men have something to say about it is oppression.
	You said women are oppressed in the United States.
	Why is that?
	They just are.
	Yeah, sure.
	Why?
	No comment.
	Um, why?
	I said no comment.
	Why don't you want to comment?
	Because it's my freedom of speech.
	I mean, it's not even a free speech issue.
	It's just like...
	It's the Fifth Amendment, bro.
	If you want to comment, you can go ahead.
	Huh?
	If I want to comment?
	Yeah, I'm asking you to comment.
	My contract did not say answer questions.
	Well, actually, your contract states if you're disruptive or sabotaging the show in some way, then you have some liability towards us.
	So by agreeing to come on a show where there's an expectation, I don't expect everybody to answer every single question, but I think it's fair to say that the majority of the questions posed to you, you've just refused to comment.
	So that's not a disruption.
	Yes, it is a disruption to the podcast.
	I'm glad you voiced your opinion.
	Can I ask why you came on the podcast today?
	Yeah, he asked me to be on the podcast.
	But like personally, from your own sort of standpoint, what was your actual objective of coming on?
	Do you have an objective?
	I'm here for a good time.
	You asked me to be on the podcast.
	I didn't know to be anything, but I thought it was going to be a funny podcast.
	I mean, it's okay.
	She thought it was going to be a funny podcast.
	I mean, we reached out to you initially.
	Actually, I think, or maybe you reached out to us.
	I'll remember this.
	You reached out to me.
	Yeah, but then we didn't hear from you for months.
	And then you, out of the blue, was like, oh, I'll come on the show.
	So, I mean, regardless of who reached out to who, it's kind of irrelevant.
	You have to come on and act in good faith.
	Now I know that you've intentionally been bad faith by you admitting, oh, it's not in the contract.
	Therefore, I can do like malicious compliance.
	I don't know if you know what malicious compliance is.
	I'm actively complying and engaging in the conversation.
	You're literally not going to be able to do it.
	You've acted like you're being in like a murder interrogation and you've committed the murder.
	Your perspection of me has nothing to do with it.
	Yeah, that's cool.
	So, why did you cite to the contract you signed?
	You do realize, like, even if something isn't in a contract, and maybe a lawyer, if there's any lawyers in the chat, they can back me up.
	There's an expectation that the parties to a contract conduct themselves in good faith.
	So, even if in the contract it says, like, for example, let me think of it.
	Maybe somebody in the chat can think of an example.
	But I do wonder if any lawyers in the chat want to weigh in on, like, okay, you've agreed to come on the podcast.
	Like, there's a good faith expectation that you're going to contribute.
	You've been refusing most of the questions.
	So it's just bad faith.
	You should play the crickets.
	Please play it.
	Any lawyers in the chat have thoughts on this?
	I mean, this breach of contract.
	It's just like you're just obviously trolling at this point.
	And you're just.
	It's not a troll.
	I don't care what it is.
	Obviously not.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I think because you came in as friends, you guys like came in.
	Oh, okay, we're going to just be really disruptive and just like try to mess with the podcast and stuff.
	I mean, you came to be disruptive, refusing to engage in the conversation, kind of like giving these like passive-aggressive troll answers.
	That is disruptive.
	It's a bit of sabotage.
	There is actually a segment in the contract related to that.
	So I don't know what to tell you.
	Now that I've established my legal position, because you made it a legal thing now, do you wish to, in good faith, engage in the conversation?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	How are women oppressed in the United States?
	I do not have to answer that question.
	It does not mean I'm not engaging in the conversation.
	It's quite literally you not engaging.
	And it's not just one time you've done this.
	I believe you've done this repeatedly throughout the course of the show.
	So this isn't a particularly divisive issue.
	This is like would be a mainstream like conversation you might have in like a class in college.
	Thank you.
	I am currently still learning.
	I mean, I can she thinks keeping a straight face right now, bro.
	I mean, you're in breach of contract.
	I don't know what else to tell you.
	So you can either engage or yeah.
	I thought this was about dating.
	Have you guys never watched the podcast before?
	Who cares?
	No.
	You never watched it?
	So you don't research things that you're about to do, that you're about to go into?
	I do.
	Whose fault is that if you don't research what you're about to go into?
	We talk about these things all the time.
	Right.
	So, yeah, I mean, you're like, it's on you.
	But, yeah.
	Anyways.
	Okay.
	Abortion.
	That's how we're oppressed.
	That was my stance.
	That's it.
	And then, like, with the pay gap, we always said the pay gap, but like, I don't know if the statistics on the pay gap is true no more.
	Like, are we getting paid less?
	I don't know.
	I don't know no more.
	I feel like if you do the same job, you should get paid the same.
	But nobody should be making choices for us.
	Just because of the strong conservative.
	I know Trump said it's up to the state, but I know his cabinet and he has like an all-Confederate, oh, my bad, conservative Congress right now who is saying that it's pro-life.
	We don't have no choice or say in it.
	That's the only reason.
	He lost a lot of voters this time around because of his stance on abortion.
	It wasn't far enough to the right.
	As he should.
	No, no, it wasn't far enough to the right.
	Oh, it wasn't far enough off.
	Yeah, really.
	Like a lot of Catholics in the country and conservatives were really, really lobbying for Trump to do a heartbeat bill.
	But he didn't.
	And he lost a lot of voters for that reason.
	So if you look at his policies, particularly with abortion, he's actually pretty progressive, unfortunately.
	Yeah, I think maybe his first term, because he was so pro-life, I remember before him saying some pro-life ass shit.
	In rhetoric?
	In rhetoric, he is.
	Yeah, he is.
	Kind of.
	He kind of is.
	He's more pragmatic.
	Because I remember during a debate, he said he was going to leave it up to the state.
	So that, I mean, but like that, just that in general.
	Responsibility because he knows the state, what the state is for.
	As in like California or New York, where they'll like abort a baby at some time.
	Here, let's do this.
	So as a show of good faith, I'm going to legally advise you.
	You're currently in breach of contract.
	As a show of good faith, though, I'd like to give you one last opportunity to actually respond.
	Your position is women are not oppressed in the USA.
	You obviously have a comment because you circled it.
	You disagree.
	How are women oppressed in the United States?
	I honestly did not understand the question.
	And that's the honest truth.
	I mean, you've just previously said you already said that that is your position.
	You now can't walk it back.
	I'm still learning.
	Yeah, it's a troll.
	It's a troll, bro.
	It's not a troll.
	It's a troll.
	You're more than welcome to think whatever you're doing.
	You said the same thing all night.
	Unless you have literal rocks of rain, then it's a troll.
	Yeah, I mean, I gave you a chance.
	Now you're like shifting it, but you clearly understood.
	I'm suspecting the other ones that you circled, you actually do have positions on them, but you're just refusing to engage.
	You're in breach.
	I do have to just kick you at this point.
	So I'm just politely going to ask you if you could just get out and leave.
	Why are you so offended?
	I'm literally just being honest.
	I'm so sorry that I'm nonchalant.
	I mean, listen.
	It's pretty clear that you're trolling or you're.
	It's the end of the podcast.
	You obviously don't want to pay me up front.
	You'll still get paid, but you're going to get docked just because we're going to like, you're in breach.
	I'll still give you payment, but you got to get out.
	Okay, cool.
	Another one bites the dust out.
	Wow.
	That's three.
	Whoops.
	Yeah, you can't stay here, though.
	Yeah, you got to leave.
	You got to leave.
	We don't even do that in person, so you got to leave.
	You gotta leave.
	Literally didn't say that.
	You did.
	You want to pull up the receipt?
	Yeah, pull it up.
	Yeah, we pay via Venmo and Cash App.
	You got to leave, though.
	We're not dealing with this now.
	You got to leave.
	I'll tell you my bill.
	Perfect.
	That's my ride.
	I don't know what to do.
	You got to leave, though.
	Is she right?
	Yeah.
	Don't leave with her purse.
	Anyways, Kelly, why did you vote for Donald Trump?
	What was...
	What really swayed you this year, this time?
	Oh, let's speak about dating.
	Please speak something funny.
	Tell me your funniest dating story.
	Go on.
	You tell me your funniest dating story.
	Let's go on.
	100 million.
	I don't know.
	And then the vital story.
	Come on, Ukraaina.
	Tell us your favorite dating story.
	One American Ukrainian.
	Which one do you want?
	Slava Ukraina.
	Anyways, tell us your favourite.
	Your favorite dating story, the one that you tell the girls, something funny.
	Go.
	There are many.
	I need to know more clear topic.
	Someone, the worst date you've ever been on.
	Go.
	Okay.
	One time, one man invited me to his luxury, luxury house.
	He was billionaire.
	And he showed me he has a cinema.
	No, it's a funny story.
	And he told me, let's have a dinner on my boat.
	I say, okay.
	But he told me before the boat, let's watch the rally.
	It's a rally, yes.
	The car racing, yeah.
	Yes.
	I was so happy.
	Wow, he has a cinema.
	So we had a drink and we started watching the rally.
	And we speaking very nice, and then the rally started to move and like, and then I continue to speak.
	Then he was so nice to me.
	And then when rally started, he said, shut up, why is it?
	He was like crazy.
	I was thinking like, what?
	What's wrong?
	Okay, I just, for a couple of minutes, like, I didn't understand why he's screaming.
	We continue watching the rally.
	He, after, you know, every five minutes there is the break.
	So when was the break, he started again nicely to me.
	Oh, they want more champagne.
	No, no, no, pop, pop, pop.
	Like, nothing happened.
	And I think maybe I'm crazy or what?
	Okay, we continue watching the rally and then I speak something I can hear against her screen.
	Like he's a control freak.
	Completely understand.
	If I'm ever watching the football and then a woman comes into the room, I get the fuck out right now.
	Get out.
	And then it's half time.
	I'm like, hey, baby, how are you?
	And then you're nice to them.
	But then if they come and stand in front of the TV, I'm like, move.
	So this is normal.
	This is completely normal.
	Completely normal.
	No, he was a control freak.
	Then we go on the boat.
	Oh my God.
	No, that is a strange story.
	That is a strange story.
	And then he's going to be a little bit more.
	Listen, the most funny.
	In the end, we're supposed to have a dinner.
	And then he told me, Do you see that doors?
	There is a pantry room.
	Yes, pantry.
	Did I say correct?
	So he told me, you have five minutes to grab whatever you want in that room.
	And then you will eat.
	I said, you're like, there was food in the pantry?
	He told me you can find something there.
	So, you know, I was thinking maybe he was watching too much.
	He was feeding you?
	Maybe he was watching too much TV, like chef, Master Chef, or cooking shows, you know.
	But I was so hungry because he gave me all the time only champagne.
	So I had the five minutes.
	I grabbed something.
	Really, it was very crazy.
	Freak.
	So I mean, not all the rich man is good.
	They can be very crazy.
	He just wanted to watch the racing for the sins.
	Good story.
	Let's see here.
	So that's your friend, right?
	Yes.
	Falling off that chair.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if she was like, it was an axe, but that girl is like actually creepy.
	I'm not going to lie.
	Yeah, I'm going to have nightmares about her face.
	Like, just there's nothing behind the eyes.
	Nothing, I mean.
	So that's crazy.
	Like, she was here, but she wasn't here.
	You know?
	Physically, she was here.
	Somewhat.
	Chat, what do you think?
	What do you think, Chad?
	Bro.
	That's entertaining.
	I don't think I saw her blink once.
	It generally could have been a lizard person.
	Yeah.
	Illuminati shit.
	I don't know.
	I'm thinking these days.
	Government.
	I'm thinking I've actually been creeped.
	There's maybe like one or two other times I've been creeped out by a girl on the show, and that was definitely it.
	Whatever.
	We saw the one where someone was using a stuffed raccoon.
	So that was pretty weird.
	And we had somebody who had a blood vial in their panties, and we thought they were going to throw it at us.
	And they were talking about doing witch magic.
	Okay, that's gross.
	Yep.
	They were telling me about using the best.
	She was cooking up a good one.
	She pulled out a blood vial out of her panties.
	We were here.
	Oh, and she pulled it out, mid.
	She pulled it out?
	Yep.
	She wasn't a real witch, because a real witch went a day.
	Where did she get this blood from?
	From the show witch.
	Oh, that's disgusting.
	Oh, she was.
	Yeah.
	She was about to do some witchcraft.
	I think she was sleeping in that vampire stuff.
	You're telling me she wanted to.
	Somebody fell in love in her.
	Told you.
	It's another bit of evidence for my claim.
	All right.
	Callie, I think this is maybe the last one we have, and then we're just going to get things wrapped up.
	Rebel, you say women have equal rights to men, or women have equal rights to men in the USA.
	You disagree.
	How so?
	Did I put disagree on her?
	I put disagree.
	I circled it.
	Oh, so you think women do have equal rights to men in the United States?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I do.
	I do.
	I shouldn't disagree with that.
	That's fine then.
	Let me look over any of the pre-show notes.
	Probably just going to get away with that.
	Are we going through the last validation on that?
	The last one there, the last question.
	What about it?
	Are we going through it?
	Oh, you're asking if it's the last question?
	No, I'm saying, are we going through our last question?
	I think the transgender individuals, that one.
	What do you mean?
	No, our last question, like the questions.
	Yeah, what about it?
	Are we going to go over it?
	Oh, now you want to speak?
	Huh?
	Like we did our other questions?
	Okay, what do you want to say?
	Go ahead.
	Here's her big moment.
	Okay, yeah.
	Read the question, too.
	Read the question also.
	If you have any disagreements with the show, go ahead and state your disagreements.
	Here comes the big moment.
	Why on a dating podcast does it have to be men against women and women against men?
	Why do we always disagree with this?
	Are you feminist?
	I wouldn't say I'm feminist.
	You're probably feminist.
	Your friends are probably feminist.
	So.
	That was sexist.
	Don't ask me.
	That wouldn't be sexist to assert that a woman's a feminist, but and they are by what I can gather.
	I mean, I want to go actually beyond just why is it between men versus women?
	Why did you guys like maliciously, intentionally come on the show to troll the show, to be disruptive?
	Like you guys obviously had a conversation before the show with a malicious intent to come on and just be as disruptive as possible.
	So that was not the.
	You see how like calm the conversation has been, like it's been fairly respectful between us, even though we disagree on certain things.
	Once your friend over there left, things got really calm.
	This girl over here continued, continued trolling but I still, you know, still kind of you know, just kicked her off pretty calmly, wasn't a big thing.
	You guys came on with the intention to be disruptive and troll, so I'm not really interested.
	I'm just gonna outright just reject your assertion because you're, You and your friends were completely bad faith the entire night.
	What did I do?
	You're just sitting there like guilt by association, quite frankly.
	You're sitting there, you're not providing any like pushback or criticism on your friend's behavior.
	You just sit there, you co-sign all their behavior.
	It's the total sisterhood.
	And yeah, you've also been kind of trolling too.
	So there's that.
	What did I do?
	You could say it.
	I could hear you out, but I don't want to hear it.
	Yeah, that's cool.
	So when it comes to divisiveness, in terms of disagreements, when it comes to dating or like man-women shit, we can have a polite conversation, but when your friend is being belligerent and obnoxious, yeah, That's going to, like, create a lot of tension and chaos for the show.
	It's like that every time, though.
	I'm not saying just this show.
	I'm saying the shows that you've had.
	Didn't you just say you haven't watched it?
	No, I've just been on the show a few times.
	So I know how it is.
	I just don't know why.
	Like, I feel like if we were to be like, okay, so how can we make dating for men and women good for us both and like collaborate on these things instead of being like, why are like we against, like, it just seems like it's dividing us more.
	I mean, there's a couple things here.
	One, the show is adversarial in nature.
	I actually don't, this is not something I attempt to hide.
	I do hope to have good faith conversations.
	I have my positions on things, which tend to come at odds with a lot of women, not all women, but a lot of women's views on when it comes to dating.
	I mean, I have reasons for this.
	I mean, I could just say, why do you guys, you know, have all these objections to like all of men's dating positions, like body count, preferring to date women who are not promiscuous, like who should pay, all this stuff.
	Like, you guys have adversarial positions, and so do we.
	So there's that.
	And then the other thing is, is that this is one podcast.
	The genesis of like the mindset that a lot of women have is steeped in feminism.
	Feminism is the originator of the divide between men and women.
	That's the genesis of the divide between men and women.
	And y'all are feminists, and I don't have any power if you compare the power that the feminist movement and ideology has because it's steeped in every single realm of humanity.
	It's steeped in the education system.
	It's steeped in corporations.
	It's steeped in the government.
	It's steeped in the media.
	It's steeped in journalism.
	It's steeped in the news.
	It's steeped in the culture.
	And there's actually almost the gynocentric nature of society reflects this.
	Now, you might say, like, if you look at universities, for example, every single university in this country has a woman studies, a feminist studies, a gender studies program.
	These institutions, systemic institutions, they have power.
	They have million or billion dollar endowments.
	Every single, it's in the trillions of dollars when it comes to the power that these institutions, educational institutions have.
	They have, like, when it comes to their endowments, feminist brainwashing at the university level.
	And then it even goes into like high school, man.
	The teachers are already brainwashing people in this feminist nonsense.
	I got one podcast.
	My viewership is like middle, very like middle of the road for most streamers.
	I don't have influence.
	Feminism has influence.
	If you think I'm decisive, this is a reaction to the overreaches of feminism.
	My podcast is combating the false narratives and the brainwashing that feminism has inflicted upon generations upon generations and millions and millions of women.
	Women have been, even, shit, even men, men have been brainwashed.
	Women have been brainwashed by feminism.
	This is the counterculture.
	I'm combating, you think I'm divisive.
	I'm combating the divisive rhetoric and ideology that feminism is.
	I'm trying to bring things back to homeostasis.
	Feminism is what's fucked everything up.
	If you think I'm divisive, step foot in a feminist studies class and tell me that's not divisive.
	How you got this girl here saying that men are oppressors and women are oppressed.
	How's that not divisive?
	You tell me, are men the oppressors?
	Yes or no?
	Yes.
	Ah, thank you for proving my point.
	You think men are the oppressors and women are the oppressed.
	How is this not divisive?
	Women are the oppressed.
	I think men are oppressed by men as well.
	You should tell their sons not to cry like we were talking about earlier, and that's not right.
	Yeah, so do you think teaching millions upon millions, maybe even every single woman in this country, that men are the oppressor class and women are the oppressed, what do you teach the oppressor class?
	Tell me.
	To overthrow, overcome, and by any means necessary, right?
	Right?
	Do you think that there should be a feminist revolution?
	No.
	Okay, do you think you should smash the patriarchy?
	no you don't believe wait you're you think just to be clear you think men are these terrible oppressors Men are the oppressor class?
	They're terrible.
	Wait, oppressors are good?
	Oppressors are good or bad?
	They're not good.
	Oh, okay.
	So men are bad then.
	You just said, no, no, no.
	You said that men are the oppressor class and women are oppressed.
	Shouldn't the oppressed class have some sort of class solidarity and try to overcome by any means necessary the oppressor class?
	Ah, okay.
	So you want a gender war between men and women?
	I don't.
	I reject the oppressor-oppressed dynamic that exists between men and women.
	And it's actually funny.
	This isn't my position anymore, but you know what they want?
	The people in power who have power, who have money, that's class.
	Now, people in my chat are going to be upset by this because this is actually a left-leaning talking point.
	But, you know, there's class, and then you know what the people who have the power in this country, who have the money, who have the resources, they want the men fighting the women, the whites fighting the blacks, the gays fighting the straits, so that there can't be any class solidarity when it comes to the have-nots and the have-yachts.
	Now, now that I've moved more conservative, for the record, I refer to that.
	Now that I've moved more conservative, I reject that too.
	Well, I don't reject that that's what's going on, but I reject the class.
	Now I have a whole nother thing because you talked about, you said that, okay, so your audience is mostly what?
	I think it's about 80% men, 20% women, which is the YouTube younger guys.
	Are you trying to have those women go from feminist to not?
	What's your name?
	A lot of women watch the podcast.
	I've had a lot of women who have reached out to me and they've said that it's changed their views on things for sure.
	Because like you said, feminism is in the water that you drink and the air that you breathe.
	It's absolutely everywhere in our culture.
	And a lot of women are looking at podcasts like this and they'll watch it and they'll watch the back and forths and sort of definitely change their mind on a lot of things on a lot of feminist positions.
	Well, that's good.
	It's working for y'all.
	But most of them are men and most of them love to hear how much women are degraded.
	Actually, no, a lot of them are men and a lot of them have been told for generations that they're toxic and that they're useless and that the future is female and all of these sorts of talking points.
	And they hear a podcast like this and we can actually logically explain our positions and yeah, it actually arms them with arguments.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I mean, you haven't actually logically given any arguments tonight.
	So if you wanted to actually state your worldview in a coherent way and influence women, you should have done so.
	That's your opinion.
	Okay.
	I mean, I do actually appreciate the question insofar as you came on with your friends and they trolled, but at least that at least that was a question.
	You disagree with me, but I respect what seemed to be a genuine question.
	But I mean, I do have to take issue with your view that men are the oppressor class.
	Because, I mean, what is more divisive than saying men bad, men oppressors, we women, we victims, we oppressed.
	Okay, I'm not saying we're victims and we're oppressed.
	On that one, but I think.
	On the question that you have that said, are we oppressed by men?
	I put we're not.
	So I don't feel like that in this current generation.
	So I mean, I don't, you did, when I did ask you, you said women are oppressed, men are oppressors.
	I'm not going to just allow you to walk back your position now that you've, now that the position is untenable.
	Men and women can be oppressed by men.
	Yeah, but, oh, but you're still saying men are the oppressor class and women.
	I mean, shh.
	Yeah, but I mean, that still wouldn't change that you view the relationship between men and women as a oppressed, oppressor dynamic.
	And in my view, that's like a terrible thing to teach women.
	And it's an awful thing to inflict upon men.
	Okay, maybe that's not what I'm saying.
	I'm not sure.
	That's what you're saying.
	Don't walk.
	See, don't walk it back.
	You got me.
	I'm going to stay in business.
	I mean, you say you want to walk it back because, I mean, at least from a debate perspective, your position is untenable and you're not prepared to defend your position.
	So, I mean, you can all you want.
	Feminism is divisive.
	It's literally divisive.
	And it's not, feminism is not a science.
	It's literally an ideology that's been accepted into like universities that once used to be respectful, like Harvard, all the Ivy Leagues, feminist bullshit.
	Every single UC, every single college in the country has a feminist studies program, women's studies program.
	I think it has really destroyed the family unit.
	Feminism.
	It's designed to do so.
	That's actually, if you go way back into the early 1900s, one of like the, I think it was maybe in the 60s or 70s, one of the women who founded this, I'm trying to remember if it was the National Organization for Women, which is one of the biggest women's advocacy groups.
	I believe, wait, is it that organization?
	One of the women who was involved with one of these organizations said that their goal is to destroy the concept of the nuclear family.
	There's many, many quotes like that from many prominent feminists.
	And even Engels, who co-wrote the Communist Manifesto, because feminists does have a very Marxist root as well.
	He said that the only way for women to ever be liberated is to break from the shackles of the nuclear family, from the family.
	And this is in the genesis of feminism.
	This is what they actually believed.
	It's that the oppressive institution is the nuclear family.
	And in order for women to be free, they have to break out from the nuclear family.
	And you know, during the college years and, you know, in the 20s, women in their 20s, that is when you should be having children and having a family, not searching for a career.
	You know, this is what I think.
	I started my career later in life after I had my children.
	And I feel a lot more satisfied than a lot of 20-year-olds who are looking at their careers at that age where the childbearing ages.
	And later on in life, when they're ready to have children, they can't have children.
	It's true.
	You know, so it is just destroying.
	Yeah, I mean, look, I'll just say what I was talking about earlier.
	You've got the, they've got people, whether it's corporations or people in power, however you want to look at it.
	They got the men fighting with the women, the blacks fighting with the whites, the gays fighting with the straits, whatever kind of intersection that you want to look at, they want you distracted.
	It's all divide and conquer.
	That's all it is.
	Feminism, as far as I know, wasn't it like is it who like a CIA psyop or something?
	Sorry, hold on.
	Like, here's the reality: feminism is inherently anti-male, inherently anti-male.
	So, like, you want to know, like, why men are moving away?
	Well, I mean, I don't know if they've always ever been like pro-feminism, but like, it's clear to me when it came to this recent presidential election, men want nothing to do with Democrats because y'all are anti-male.
	Like, Democrats are anti-male.
	You don't speak to men at all.
	The right, here's the difference.
	Oh, I heard something really good the other day.
	It was something like this.
	People on the left or Democrats say, Men, hold on, hide that because they're going to be distracted.
	Hide it.
	I'll pull it back up later.
	They say that men, you don't have any problems.
	You are the problem.
	That's what leftists and Democrats say.
	And the right says, men, you do have problems.
	We don't have any solutions for you.
	So I think both parties, they don't really do anything for men, but at least the right, at least conservatives, at least they say, we recognize that you have problems and disadvantages.
	And you know what?
	You want to know why Donald Trump is president?
	Because of fucking feminism and all that bullshit that comes with it.
	So maybe be a little bit more, you know, don't push men away so much.
	That's if you want your political agenda, like it's funny.
	The Democrats used to be like for the working, like the working class.
	They're not.
	They're not.
	Corporate overlords, total corporate overlords.
	I mean, the fucking Republicans are too, but it's different.
	Anyways, whatever.
	I'm getting into politics.
	Fuck it.
	I just said, can you guys admit at any point in time that women were oppressed by men?
	At any point in time, can y'all admit that?
	It depends what you mean by oppressed.
	It depends.
	Like, were we totally inferior in any type of way?
	Can you guys admit that?
	I mean, it depends though, because like you always have to do a contrast, a comparison to what.
	So for example, you would probably say, and correct me if I'm wrong, that when women couldn't vote, like that's oppression.
	Like women were oppressed.
	They couldn't vote.
	Do you think that's fair?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	During that same period of time, so if we go to the 1910s, do you know what happened in like the 1910s?
	Yeah, wasn't it like depression after the Ron 20?
	I don't know what 1914, 1918 was World War I. Up until that point, the most brutal catastrophic war, like World War, so like involvement of major superpowers, a bunch of countries, 1914, 1918, I think it's like 20.
	Sometimes I get my World War I, World War II, like casualty count mixed up.
	So men had to go to war and literally die.
	And World War I is like, the way we do warfare now is totally different.
	World War I, you're in a trench for nine months.
	Your hearing's completely gone because there's shells, constant bombardment.
	It's freezing cold.
	You have trench foot.
	You've seen like half your fucking squad die of either an injury, a shell, something.
	Like, I don't think y'all understand how fucking brutal warfare is.
	So women couldn't vote, but men had to fucking participate in the most brutal, soul-crushing thing.
	Like, you think, I don't think you guys even understand.
	Like, go watch All Quiet on the Western Front.
	You guys don't know how brutal war is.
	So, like, women were oppressed, men were oppressed.
	I think warfare, I mean, you can shake your head.
	Warfare is something that's been almost exclusively inflicted upon men.
	They were forced to do it.
	Because they thought that women were weak or too weak to warn us.
	Women are weaker than men.
	We're too weak to go to war, so you guys have to go.
	That's not our fault.
	Yeah, but some 18-year-old boy who like doesn't know shit about anything and he has zero power whatsoever, he's going to go get sent to like, I don't know, the freaking Ardennes forest and just go get like, get like a million bullet holes from some like German.
	Like, I'm just confused.
	Like, how is that like so?
	I just don't think about if we were even thinking about just outside of American culture, how in Muslim cultures and women are expected to cover up and not talk when men are talking and all those little nuances of just shut the fuck up and cooking clean.
	I mean, I'm talking about Western culture here.
	You know, we talk about it.
	If you talk about, for example, like a place like Afghanistan, I think that you could potentially make that argument.
	Okay, but if y'all want to just keep it to America, y'all haven't admitted, but at some point women were oppressed.
	And I think feminism and some of that oppression still lingers.
	Like, I mean, you guys are, I mean, we couldn't, we couldn't work.
	There was nothing, we couldn't work.
	We wasn't going to school.
	So you guys were going to be able to do that.
	We would literally just make babies cooking clean.
	So you had to stay home while your husband went to work all day and you had to raise the kids and look after the house.
	I think it's a choice.
	It's also like we couldn't choose our husband too.
	We were giving to our husbands by our father.
	I mean, there were like arranged marriages.
	I mean, like, I mean, but it's like the choice, the lack of a choice.
	Would you rather have the freedom to change?
	Yeah, but the man was also forced too.
	If there's an arranged marriage, the man's also forced to marry you.
	Okay, but when you're in the middle of the moment, we're going back to who made the system.
	It's like even you saying that you're glad that there wasn't no women making the constitution.
	Like that is oppression.
	I know you didn't say that, but I mean, whether he was trolling or not, that is oppression.
	And some of that oppression still works.
	I'm not going to get over this conversation about that.
	I think that men were clearly, clearly the oppressed class throughout history when it comes to labor and when it comes to who was the primary victims of war.
	It's pretty clear that if you look at it just from the utilitarian perspective of like who had the most damage done to them, it was clearly men.
	Like there is, there's like, it's hard to argue otherwise.
	Even if you look at throughout Christian Europe, they had the notion of chivalry, which is that men had to act with honor towards women.
	My lady, knights had to go and die for women.
	It's just clear that the primary victims of war have always been men and war has been the most tragic thing to ever happen in humankind.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, like, if we look back into like maybe the early 20th century, though, I'm getting my wires crossed.
	20th century would be like the 1900s, right?
	20th century, yeah.
	Like if you look at men who lived in Pennsylvania, who worked in a coal mine, it's not clear to me if those men who die at like 40 because of black lung, but they got to work and the women had to stay home and take care of the house where it was like the house was safe and have like have kids.
	I don't like, I don't know if it's really, it sounds, it seems to me like most of the women would, if you had to pick, okay, go into the coal mine and then you're going to get black lung and the last one or two years of your life, you're going to be like literally in constant pain because your lungs are all fucked up from being in the coal mine.
	I feel like a lot of women would be like, I'm actually okay staying at home.
	I'm cool doing some dishes and stuff.
	That's true, but I think the choice is the privilege, the choice to choose between this.
	He's talking about the Industrial Revolution, right?
	And this is not a time where people could choose.
	The men had to do that, or else you won't have any money, you won't be able to survive.
	And then, even before that, if you look at the agricultural time, before the Industrial Revolution, over 90% of people were farmers, and this was even before the steel plow was invented.
	Men were just pushing shit through the fields all day, every day.
	And then the women were in charge of raising the children.
	And most, like, a lot of children died at birth or died when they were young due to like various illnesses and stuff.
	So, for much of history, men and women were kind of both in the trenches suffering together.
	It's only quite a certainly like a modern thing where people don't have to do this immense suffering and dying young and losing children and everything.
	This is a modern concept.
	It was statistics that men have some advantages.
	If we talk about the page, the pay gap and everything like that.
	But I just think feminism is not supposed to be this huge anti-men movement.
	But I think it was really originally supposed to be a safe space for women to have each other's backs and not take anything that these men throw at us.
	It's not supposed to be anti-men.
	Not saying that hasn't turned to that, but it was just supposed to be a safe space.
	Just like how the Black Panther movement, all this is supposed to be a safe space for black people and other minorities to have their safe spaces.
	That's all.
	The genesis of feminism, like the early adopters of feminism, they were misandrists.
	Many of them hated men.
	Some of the most prominent feminist writers and academics, clear misandrists, clear man-haters.
	And look, I'll take another, like, I don't think misogynists are good either, but I think there's a differential here where, like, if you ask a lot of women, like, I'm ready to, I think women are great.
	I don't always fully understand them, but I think women are great.
	I don't hate women.
	I think women are wonderful.
	I think men are wonderful.
	But, like, if you ask feminists, man, like, a lot of women, you ask a college woman, like, do we need men?
	Like, they have a very, even if it's a low-level kind of like negative attitude towards men, which I find incredibly objectionable.
	And this even low-level, like, low-level, almost-I don't know if it's disgust or like disdain for men.
	It could be very low-level.
	Oh, men suck, blah, blah, blah.
	Or it could be full-blown, like, I hate men, or women will say, I hate men.
	Total misandry.
	Look, at the end of the day, feminism is a movement that's just entirely hostile towards men.
	And you're not going to convince me that like feminism has ever advocated for anything when it comes to like any way in which men are disadvantaged.
	Feminism is a purely at its most, I guess, the most charitable.
	It's purely a what's the word?
	It's a purely a woman's advocacy movement.
	Yeah, it's pro-women.
	It's not anti-men.
	It's pro-women.
	But it's turned anti-men, though.
	Some people, yeah, we have some radicals.
	Like, there's radicals in any movement.
	There's radicals, of course.
	But that doesn't mean that's not saying like, like, the Black Panther is anti-white.
	We're pro-black.
	We're giving our safety.
	We're giving our support to the people that need it.
	Like, that's it.
	So then, like, for example, like the racist group from throughout history who are just pro-white, like a modern-day sort of white supremacist movement.
	Would you say that they're just pro-white?
	That's C then, and that's different.
	Like, that's different.
	Because they're literally, they're literally trying to lynch people.
	No, no, we're not trying to lynch people.
	They're just looking out for white interests.
	They're like looking at national white and they're just looking out for white people.
	That sounds like a pro-white movement to me.
	Yeah.
	What's wrong with that?
	I didn't say anything was wrong with that.
	I didn't say anything was wrong with that.
	I actually don't necessarily disagree with advocacy groups for your own kind, but it depends if your advocacy group pathologizes others, right?
	So, if you're looking out for, if you have a movement that looks out for black people, they're going into black neighborhoods and trying to teach them financial literacy.
	Kevin Hart does a lot of this.
	I think he's a really good example.
	And he tries to go into these communities and say, hey, look, you guys are capable of more than this.
	Don't go to jail.
	Don't become incarcerated.
	Learn a little bit about financial literacy and aim for the stars.
	Get educated.
	That's fantastic if you're just doing it as a black advocacy group.
	But if you pathologize the other, that's when it becomes very toxic.
	And feminism from day dot did that.
	We're going to do a row session, then we're going to wrap up the show.
	I guess final thing to your point: like when this podcast is said and done, it's one of the like the there's very few like male advocacy spaces out there, very few.
	When this podcast is all said and done, I'm telling you, feminism is still going to have its claws in all the things I listed: education, news, media, journalism, corporations, government.
	Feminism is going to continue to have its claws and all that shit.
	And at the end of the day, feminism does have feminism holds all the cards.
	Feminism holds everything.
	It's like the fucking Matrix, dude.
	Feminism is the machines.
	Like, you guys hold all the keys, all the cards.
	That's it.
	I'm one guy with a podcast.
	There's very, very few like male voices out there that are doing any sort of male advocacy or like anti-feminist rhetoric.
	It's very rare, very rare.
	I just didn't understand really what this show, like in that sense.
	Like, it's anti-feminist for that reason.
	And then you feel like men have been dragged down in that way.
	You're trying to claw your way back up by having your foot in what you stand for.
	I mean, look, feminism has just forwarded completely like fabricated ideology and positions, patriarchy theory.
	That's fucking bullshit.
	Like all the stuff, like you guys will totally misconstrue and like twist statistics to like forward your totally false and erroneous positions.
	It's totally catastrophic.
	You basically have like generations upon generations of women who think men are these dangerous, violent grapists.
	And it's like absolutely disgusting.
	You've painted us all as predators.
	It's totally disgusting.
	I would love to have a return to where men respected women and well, I where men respected women and women respected men.
	But it's clear due to feminist narratives and ideology that you've basically taught generations and generations of women to have disdain and contempt for men.
	That's it.
	We should be cautious of men though.
	Because who here has a creepy story about a man?
	I bet everybody.
	So it's just like, I mean, I love men.
	And in my country, we don't have to have a sexual fashion.
	And it's not like that.
	It's in America.
	It's completely different.
	It's different.
	In my country, it's not like that.
	And it was before, like, very old-fashioned.
	And like, my gentleman is where you're from.
	Men are gentlemen is where you're from.
	That's what you're saying.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes, because it's another rules, another life.
	It's more old-fashioned.
	And my father is a leader in my house, and everybody not like Kobe, but we respect him.
	Even today, you see, guys, I respect you very much.
	I want to say so much stuff.
	Even you say sometimes something rude to me.
	But I respect you and I.
	I appreciate that.
	And I appreciate your rules and everything.
	You've been very respectful.
	Thank you.
	I do.
	I definitely appreciate that.
	And I was going to say something on this final thing before we get into guys.
	Roast session, $20.
	We'll do a brief one, then we're going to wrap the show.
	But it's like, man.
	I forgot.
	Slipped my mind.
	If it comes back to me, I'll do it.
	One sec, guys.
	I'm going to get that all set up.
	If you want to get some roasts in here, all right.
	That should all be changed here in just a moment.
	Here.
	Oh, wait, one sec.
	They're going to make fun of us.
	Right?
	Yeah, they make fun of me.
	They talk about burritos and shit, so it's all good.
	One sec, guys.
	That's almost ready to go.
	And I know there were some other messages that came through.
	So hold on, let's enable that.
	Guys, like the video.
	Please like the video, guys.
	I know we're getting towards the end of the show, so please like the video.
	Okay, that should all be set.
	All right.
	I'm going to let these come through.
	Michael Jones donated $100.
	Yes, women are oppressed.
	They are oppressed by feminism.
	That's the best argument for female oppression there is.
	All right, Michael Jones, thank you so much for the $100 message, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	We have Desert Joe coming in in just a moment here.
	So, guys, I need to do this here, too.
	Okay.
	Thank you, man.
	We have the next one coming in in just a moment.
	$20 TTS, guys.
	Get a minute session.
	Desert Joe donated $100.
	CH1 is misguided about gender and racial oppression.
	It's more so class oppression.
	The rich/slash elite class oppress everyone else.
	They didn't care about what the race/slash gender of who they were oppressing.
	The rich and poor, obviously, is a thing.
	Really quick.
	Sorry to interrupt.
	I just, while I remember what I was going to say, so here's the reality: women have never been more free than today.
	You've never had more benefits.
	You've never had more privileges.
	You're doing your little clapping thing.
	That's great.
	You don't appreciate any of the substantial benefits that through men's labor and through men's genius has enabled you to just live your totally comfortable and pampered life.
	I do.
	Clap, clap, clap.
	I do.
	You guys don't realize how, like, you guys, if we went back 150 years, 200 years, life was terribly brutal for both men and women.
	Like survival, food scarcity.
	I don't think you realize how fucking difficult life was 150, 200 years ago.
	You guys live the most comfortable, pampered lives of any women in the existence of the entire history of humanity.
	And I just would love to see.
	So what you have is women, you have the most privileged, comfortable lives you've ever had in all of human history, and you hate men the most.
	Women hate men more today than they've ever hated men in all human history.
	And I just think that's disgusting.
	They don't feel like they have to rely on them as much because it's not ever present.
	Who's hating men?
	I don't know.
	Actually, Jake, that's a really good thing.
	I love men.
	I do.
	So you don't think that people are men.
	You can't love men if you view men as oppressors.
	Like, it does not compute.
	Like, you literally, I'm not saying that that's your position, but like you ask most women, they're going to say, oh, yeah, there's a patriarchy.
	We've got to smash the patriarchy.
	And men are oppressors.
	And I, as a woman, either am oppressed or historically women were oppressed.
	You got to do fucking, to your point, you got to do a comparison.
	Like, compared to what?
	Yeah, women couldn't vote.
	Cool.
	Men, like, faced, most men never got to reproduce.
	Most men, a lot of men historically just went and died in wars.
	Most men worked brutal, brack, back, excuse me, backbreaking, laborious jobs.
	And they, you think, like, men aren't trying to oppress y'all.
	Men go out and work and kill themselves and break their bodies for you.
	They want a wife and for their kids.
	You think the gender wage gap, men make more money?
	They're doing it all for you.
	They want to.
	They'll get your man, your husband, will give you fucking everything.
	He'll take a bullet for you.
	Not me.
	He'll take a bullet for you.
	Men will sacrifice their lives for you.
	They will work until their bones are broken and their backs all up for you and your family and your children.
	And I just think it's disgusting that we've totally have these warped narratives when it comes to men.
	Anyways, I'm kind of ranting at this point, just being a dead horse.
	So, you think that feminists were completely delusional when they started it?
	Like, whoever started the feminist movement, they just came out with this.
	Egalitarianism is where feminism comes from.
	And egalitarianism is inherently physical strength.
	Because it's impossible for human beings to ever be equal because human beings form themselves into hierarchies.
	Right.
	And they're different in so many ways.
	Because you guys are physically stronger than us, that we were just delusional enough to come up with this whole oppression story.
	Like, it wasn't a bunch of women.
	I know you guys want to move on, but it wasn't a bunch of women.
	It was a bunch of massive financial interests who wanted to bring women into the workforce so that they had more people to choose from and they had more negotiation power and a higher tax base.
	That's not what they taught me in school.
	All right, I'm going to let the chats come in here.
	Jason Castle donated $20.
	Hey, Rebel, I told you read a book.
	Start with Rachel Wilson's occult feminism.
	You will learn that feminism is not just wrong, it is evil.
	It's a fantastic book.
	I'd recommend it.
	I'll read it well.
	Snap all donated $20.
	Feminism isn't pro-women, it's anti-men.
	It's planted by Marxists in universities to disrupt the nuclear family in the West.
	Bricks and keep fighting for equal rights.
	Love you, Jake, no homo.
	Read Unwoke.
	Shniko Zero 4 donated $20.
	No one at the table is above a 4.
	Not sure which is lower, their actual rating or their IQ.
	Rough panel tonight, Brian.
	We understand why you're going down to one show a week.
	Yeah, tonight was rough, guys.
	Thank you, man.
	Chair 5, you're not fooling anyone.
	I know it's Stank Girl.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	He says I know it's Stank Girl.
	Chair 5, that's you.
	Yeah, do you want to spend that money?
	If you want to further explore the misunderstandings you seem to have about the history of slavery across the world, I recommend looking into the work of Thomas Sowell.
	He's brilliant and black.
	Discrimination is in disruption.
	Repeal the 19th donated $20.
	Feminism has always been evil man-hating garbage.
	You are brainwashed.
	Some of the dumbest women I've ever heard speak think the exact same stupidity that you all think.
	Repeal the 19th immediately.
	Yo, thank you guys so much, all of you who sent in the roast.
	We have a few more coming through, guys.
	We won't do too long of a roast.
	So if you want, get them in.
	Jason Castle donated $20.
	Hey, Rebel, I told you read a book.
	Start with Rachel.
	Send me the book in our seat feminism.
	I'll send it to you.
	You will learn that feminism is not just wrong.
	It is evil.
	And I actually want to give credit to you, Rebel.
	Like, I know you maybe disagree with us.
	You disagree with our positions.
	I think you've actually been kind of at least open-minded.
	You've heard us out.
	You haven't lost your shit if we say something you disagree with.
	So, I mean, I appreciate you for participating in the conversation.
	And even if we don't disagree, I want you to know.
	Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me.
	All you guys, like, I try to be unbiased too, like, because at the end of the day, I see the side of men.
	If somebody just dated women, that's why I've switched.
	I see both sides.
	We talked about like feminism, like the race issue, abortion, transgenderism.
	So, touched on some hot topics in your big sports.
	And I don't think feminism is evil either.
	He's trying to watch out for us.
	Y'all don't understand.
	Like, at the end of the day, like, men had to go through all this shit.
	I think the choice to make that power, the power to choose that a woman wasn't even there to sign off with the founding fathers, that is privilege.
	That is oppression.
	There should have been a woman there when we were creating the country.
	But I'm not just trying to hold it out.
	We can go.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm not trying to drag it out.
	I'm women's lady.
	But look, no, I do even though we disagree, I just want you to know that even though we disagree, it's not like I never have bad blood with people that I disagree with.
	And again, to your credit, you were very open-minded.
	You were very respectful.
	Even when we did have things that you probably very strongly disagreed with.
	And to anybody else on the panel, if we had disagreements, but we kept things cool and collected, I appreciate that.
	And I do want to point out, I know they're gone, but you guys do got to acknowledge things chilled out major once a certain individual left the panel.
	And that is best for the show, right?
	And I mean, look how quickly we moved through everything.
	Things were fairly calm.
	We got through everything.
	So we have a couple more coming through.
	You know what?
	Wait, hold on.
	We have.
	Or actually, Roxanna, let me have you read some of these.
	Sure.
	Anakin Skywanker, 1987.
	$20.
	Thank you, ma'am.
	Brian, great show tonight.
	Go get a burrito.
	You deserve it.
	Ah, yes.
	I need to eat after the show.
	Thank you, Anakin.
	Appreciate it.
	Free, free women from women's empowerment and Islam both are from Satan.
	John Velikett.
	$20.
	I'm not controlling this whole thing.
	Thank you, John.
	Appreciate it.
	Real Faux Rogan.
	Chair 3, right here.
	Yep.
	Continues to try to speak to her appreciation of men, and you repeatedly cut her off and ignore her.
	Why don't you let her speak about make appreciation in her culture instead of you playing the beta male victim card?
	Yeah, no, sure, that's fair.
	I mean, I apologize if I cut you off at any points.
	Sometimes it's just kind of the nature of these conversations.
	They're moving really fast.
	We got to get to the new thing.
	But given that, if I'd like to give you an opportunity to speak, if you'd like to speak.
	I want to say something, you know, guys.
	When I come to America, I was very much surprised.
	Why dating?
	A lot, I told you, first of all, because I wanted to find the friends because I'm here completely alone.
	And second, because I didn't understand what's wrong.
	So there is something wrong.
	Here, because of all this situation with feminism and etc., men afraid to act as a man.
	What I mean, in my country, if man like the woman, he will do a lot of stuff to get her.
	Here, man, afraid to do anything like any step more because he don't know she will like it.
	She don't like it.
	She will sue him.
	She goes to Poland.
	She just wants his money.
	She wants to use him.
	Here, man is afraid to be a man.
	And this is very bad.
	This is what I really don't like.
	And I give up.
	No, I mean, I'm sure that one day I will meet the right man for me.
	But also, what's interesting for me is that, you know, I'm working in the bar and in my bar, there are many men whoever they come in and talking to me.
	What I found out in America, there is no love.
	People forget how to love, how to.
	It's, you know, everybody's suffering from no love.
	Because you're fighting, guys.
	Stop fighting.
	Go love each other.
	That was actually very profound.
	And that was a good point.
	Good point.
	You said that men are like scared because they're worried like the women are going to do like a lawsuit or go like say something that's not true.
	Is that kind of what you're saying?
	You know, false accusations.
	They're not afraid to act.
	I mean, in my country, if I say, oh, sorry, Tom, oh, I don't like you or something, and I just leave.
	In my country, what?
	He will try to send you flowers.
	He will do something.
	He will find you near your school or near university or whatever.
	He tried to speak to you.
	He will try to do a lot of stuff to get you.
	Because in my country, mostly if you say no to men, it's like a challenge for him.
	Like, what?
	She says, no, I will get her.
	Here in America, if you say no, they're like, okay.
	He will not do anything.
	Even he will like you, he will still not do anything.
	This is surprising for me.
	Okay.
	All right, we have two chats here.
	Then we're going to get this wrapped up.
	We have Tim underscore Val Zunderscore is underscore gee donated $20.
	Yo, great show tonight, boys.
	So I'm a huge lesbian trapped in a man's body, plus happily married 10 years to a woman.
	What the fuck should we do?
	Nico Zero Ford donated $20.
	Nico, long time.
	Thank you.
	She doesn't stand a chance with us.
	Easiest $10,000 you will ever make, Brian.
	Yo, yeah, I tried to get her, but she wanted the contract, so unfortunately.
	But me and her, we got the, did we do that?
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	It's a deal.
	All right.
	10K.
	Easy.
	Easy done.
	By the way, guys, W's in the chat for Nico, long time supporter.
	I think I feel like this is the first time I've seen you in 2025.
	So really good to see you, Jay Nico, in 2025, man.
	Thank you so much.
	Really good to have your support and patronage.
	Thank you, man.
	Thor donated $20.
	Thank you, Thor.
	Feminism has inflated women egos to the point where many men feel it's just not worth the effort anymore.
	Or will simp slash white night?
	We truly are suffering from her inflation and simflation.
	We're cooked.
	Cooked.
	He says we're cooked.
	Shit.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	All right, guys.
	I'm going to get this wrapped up.
	If anybody wants to send a final one in, you can.
	That's the final call.
	Oops, what the heck happened?
	Sorry, guys.
	Okay, who we're going to, we're going to do a Twitch raid.
	Let's do that.
	Yep.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah, let's do it.
	That'll be fun.
	That'll be a fun way to end the show.
	You guys will like this.
	Okay, we have.
	Hold on.
	Let's just.
	Yeah, shit.
	We should have done it earlier.
	My bad.
	Okay, let's do it.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, shit.
	It's like looking like whoopee Bro.
	Yo, that's kind of racist.
	No, wait, what is that?
	Supposed to be like 45?
	No, because I said it 34.
	I look better, but like, whatever that age that is, it's ugly.
	How many batches, Damien?
	There's just one for gender.
	Okay, perfect.
	Next.
	Oh, make it a little bigger.
	God, no.
	It's not that bad.
	I mean, it's not me.
	All right.
	Oh, man.
	This would have been so good for a miss.
	I'm going to be hot at 100.
	All right, next.
	Oh, shit.
	Smaller, smaller.
	Make it a little smaller.
	Imagine that with a bad one.
	What happened to the damn?
	You didn't just make her older.
	You made her fatter, too.
	That's crazy.
	That's crazy.
	Who is that?
	Is that Kat who did this?
	Okay, next.
	Oh, yeah, this girl.
	That's the airbrush from the first one.
	Whoa, hold on.
	Whoever did the originals are younger than in reality.
	Yeah, you guys did a lot of favors for her on that first picture, but okay.
	All right.
	The second one looks more like her.
	That's how's your favorite?
	Okay, next.
	Became Asian.
	Okay.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Tuck shop lady.
	All right.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	She likes it.
	She likes it next.
	Make it bigger.
	Still a total soccer path.
	Bro, I'm okay.
	Coming after you.
	Fuck, next.
	Yeah, y'all edited the first pictures.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I look like I have a small plane that I like to drive.
	I look like a police officer.
	Yeah, or a cop.
	A dirty cop.
	Just kidding.
	Next.
	Hey!
	Oh, damn.
	Hey, bro.
	I can see us hanging out, bro.
	Fuck, dude.
	What happens to the chat one next?
	Oh, let's do the gender one.
	Yeah.
	Let's do the gender one.
	That'll be fun.
	Bro, what?
	You could have gave me a beard.
	I have a beard, though, because my dad has a beard.
	Gave you a little peach fuzz there.
	Would you date yourself?
	That's a bad picture.
	Okay, forget the don't even look at the one on the left, just the one on the right.
	Would you date that man?
	Yeah, if he grew his getting us a facial hair, you'd like to get a little bit of a drink.
	Okay, all right, okay.
	Next.
	Oh, my.
	What the fuck, bro?
	Someone's gonna grab you in the head.
	That's terrible.
	Yeah, I know.
	I would not date me.
	Yo, hey, he's kind of handsome.
	Look at that chin.
	Is that a sloth on your head?
	I would date you.
	Looks like a young buck with a prop leg.
	You can't girl.
	What?
	Oh, my goodness.
	What is that?
	You gave Unibrow too.
	His brows are crazy.
	Next.
	They need to be whack.
	Oh, wait, but would you date yourself?
	Wait, make it a little smaller.
	Make it a little smaller.
	What the fuck, bro?
	Olympic shot put off.
	Yo.
	Honestly, though, kind of handsome.
	Right.
	Holy shit.
	Wait.
	Okay, that's something else.
	Next.
	Oh, wow.
	Nice mullet, bro.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Next.
	Cutie.
	Oh.
	You look the same.
	It's still a woman.
	Completely agree.
	Come on.
	Really?
	Would you date yourself?
	Would you date the man version of you?
	It's hard.
	I know.
	That's a hard time.
	Looks like such a pet.
	Callie, come on.
	Would you do it?
	Well, the first one doesn't look like me, and then the second one.
	I don't know about that.
	All right.
	So no?
	Okay, next.
	You know what?
	He's cute.
	I feel like there wasn't.
	He's cute.
	Is there really.
	Yeah.
	In the second one, she looks like Luca Brazzi.
	She looks like she.
	He looks like a man.
	Would you date the male version of you?
	Italian mafia.
	Hell no.
	Into the mic, into the mic?
	Hell no.
	What?
	Shit.
	Okay.
	What's going on there?
	Next?
	Holy fuck.
	I'm a baddie.
	What the hell?
	God damn, Jake.
	I mean, you still got a fucking bit of a beard, though.
	Look at the way she's looking at me.
	We fell a little bit.
	Bro, you got like, fuck me eyes instead of just.
	Yeah, dude.
	Holy shit.
	All right.
	Hide your husband.
	I mean, I mean, I don't know if this is the woman version of you or like the transition.
	Like, I don't know.
	You know, it's like a little.
	Like, chat, would that's how Jake would look if he was transgender?
	Right?
	Am I right?
	You got to stop in the chat.
	I got some nice cheekbones and shit there.
	I couldn't have that in real life.
	Okay.
	Would you, Jake, would you date her?
	Yeah, bro.
	Sweet.
	It's kind of.
	He looks like a bit of a boss bitch, the corporate girl.
	Looks like she'd be a lawyer or some shit.
	Okay.
	Oh, boy.
	I'm nervous.
	All right.
	Here we go.
	Bro, that's fucking dirty.
	Y'all did me fucking dirty, bro.
	First off, this looks like a painting from like the 1500s.
	Yeah, you look terrible.
	Like, I look like fucking Mona Lisa in this shit.
	Like, what the fuck?
	I look like one of those, what do you call it?
	Like, I look like I'm inbred royalty here, bro.
	Fucking, why you gotta do me dirty like this, man?
	Holy shit.
	That's fucked up, man.
	I'd still hit, though.
	Okay, anyways.
	Is there an extra?
	No, that's it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Oh, we got a couple chats here.
	Let's see.
	Loop baby donated $20.
	What happened to Anison Morgan?
	Oh, yeah.
	Anissa, she wasn't able to continue.
	I mean, they both just weren't able to continue.
	I'm telling you, man, look, the background character is high turnover, but no drama.
	I mean, just no drama there or anything.
	Anissa, like it's a new quarter, or is it semester?
	She had a different class schedule.
	She's a college student, and you know, these shows go late.
	She had some like early classes.
	So just her scheduling conflicts with Anissa.
	And then, yeah.
	So, and Morgan's also a college student.
	So, it is what it is.
	So, we have Nico here.
	Thank you, Supers, for 2025.
	Thank you.
	Sorry, Q1 is extremely busy with work.
	All good, man.
	Still here.
	Still a fan.
	Appreciate you.
	Still supporting.
	Thank you.
	Loved the smoke you brought these last few nights, Jake.
	Guys, W's in the chat for Jake.
	W's in the chat for Jake.
	He's a legend and a scholar.
	Thank you, sir.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	And just before we carry on, if anybody does want to check out the vlog we did with Andrew Wilson, I think you guys will really enjoy it.
	We did a travel video on Rattlesnake Travel and we shot some big guns and it was just the boys hanging out.
	That's awesome.
	People are enjoying it, so sweet.
	It's on your Rattlesnake TV.
	Yeah, and the link tree is in the bio.
	Yes, we have the link tree for him.
	Okay, we have brave zero donated $20.
	Yo, Savage, thank you, man.
	Shout out from Hollister, California.
	What's up, Brian, and Rattlesnake TV?
	Yo, thank you so much, man.
	All right, that's cool.
	You know what?
	We need to do like a little wholesome thing here.
	We're going to raid Wo Grandma.
	Oh, speeds online.
	Maybe I could.
	Nah, we'll just do Wo Grandma.
	Love this lady.
	Yeah, she's cool.
	The wholesome moment here at the end of the show.
	Before you pull that up, though, I'll do the outro really quick.
	Okay, GG to the panel.
	Last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	It means the world, this show is viewer supported, audience supported.
	We're not doing sponsorships.
	Like almost all of our live streams get either age restricted or demonetized.
	Like we get the little yellow monetization icon.
	So we are viewer supported.
	So I appreciate all you guys so much.
	And I obviously appreciate even if you just watch, that helps us out too.
	So thank you guys.
	We will be live again Sunday.
	Or no, excuse me.
	It's Super Bowl Sunday, right?
	Coming up.
	Oh, guys, no show on Super Bowl Sunday, but we will be back Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Got a really good.
	Ooh, yeah, that February 11th show.
	Assuming no flakes, you never know.
	Insane panel.
	Like, insane panel.
	It's going to be really good.
	So be sure to tune in for that.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram.
	07's in the chat.
	Let's pull up the Twitch.
	Oh, we need to do one last Twitch shout-out before.
	Can you pull up the Twitch thing?
	Thank you, man.
	All right.
	And I think.
	All right, guys.
	Go to twitch.tv slash whatever before we do the raid over there.
	Just drop us a quick follow, guys.
	Drop us a quick follow and drop us a prime sub.
	Just check if you have a prime sub available.
	It's a quick, free, easy way to support the show every single month.
	Check if you've got a prime, drop it, drop us a follow.
	Thank you guys so much.
	Really appreciate it over there on Twitch.
	And then, can you pull up the stream for the guy?
	Hold on.
	Let me play this really quick.
	WTF donated $20.
	This is one of the ugliest panels you have had across all the episodes.
	Damn, bro, chill out.
	No person above a three.
	Props for actually trying to make us appreciate when the women here are pretty.
	Okay, let's do the raid.
	All right.
	I don't need to kill anything.
	I just need to.
	All right.
	I'm going to send the raid over.
	Guys, thank you so much for watching on Twitch.
	I'm sending that raid over in just five seconds.
	Oh, she's playing Plunderstorm.
	She's playing World of...
	Guys, be nice to her.
	She's 82, I think 83.
	Be nice, be very nice.
	Tell her what's up.
	Tell her something nice.
	All right, guys, sending that raid over.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	That's getting sent over now.
	She's playing Plunderstorm.
	It's a kind of minigame within the world of Warcraft ecosystem.
	It's like a, what's it called?
	Whatever.
	It's been a while.
	Hello there, whatever.
	It's been a minute.
	It's been a minute.
	welcome whatever what level is she It looks like they're...
	Oh, only nine squads.
	Yeah, they got pretty far in this game.
	Okay, cool.
	Show her some love, guys.
	And all right, I think that's pretty much it.
	We got everything.
	Okay.
	07's in the chat.
	Good night, guys.
	07's in the chat.
	Good night.

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